rising/reddit-malaysia-rising-2023-12-31T16:04:07.814773.jsonl

{"title": "NYE events to check out alone", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18v1fzi/nye_events_to_check_out_alone/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": [], "header": "My friend's in KL alone tonight and wondering what to check out for NYE events - any ideas on good places/events worth checking out? Fireworks maybe?", "comments": [["If your friend is a guy, then he should be able to commute around at night, can come to desa park city"]]}
{"title": "Took this from George Town yesterday, is it normal or some accident?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uukpv/took_this_from_george_town_yesterday_is_it_normal/", "num_comment": 42, "flairlabel": ["Environment"], "header": "I'm a tourist and would appreciate if anyone can explain. Thanks.", "comments": [["Factory fire according to a response to a post I made over in r/Penang . I could see the cloud of smoke from my condo.", "Atp i believe that every negeri has their own subreddit lmao.", "Your comment made me check how true this is. Interestingly almost all states have their own subreddit except Kedah, Perlis, N9, Pahang and Johor (Johor Bahru sub does exist but not the entirety of Johor for some reasons). If including WP then the only one not on the list is Putrajaya. The only state sub to have more than 10k followers is r/Penang at 60k+ followers, a huge difference from the average.", "Mainly because JB people doesnt wanna be associated with other part. They see themselves as high n mighty", "Dafuq", "Im out here spreading misinformations", "What is blud on about\ud83d\udc80\ud83d\udc80\ud83d\udc80", "Bluds yappin", "Here's a sneak peek of /r/penang using the top posts of the year!\n#1: All time favorite on the island | 15 comments\n#2: Tourist family. My wife and infant got screamed at in Penang Town Hall by a very angry man. What happened?\n#3: Travel Mistake 101 in Penang.\nI'm a bot, beep boop | Downvote to remove | Contact | Info | Opt-out | GitHub", "Make sense penang have lots of users. Expats and chinese seems the majority that uses reddit.", "All the negeri you list im surprised the most that Kelantan has its own sub. I thought kelatanese dont use reddit.", "Chemical factory/warehouse fire."], ["Snoop dog having a party", "Haram. Snoop Sausage."], ["Kebakaran dekat2 BKE. Area Permatang Pauh"], ["This biasa. Is Aladin", "But is it Alladeen or is it Alladeen?", "Its aladeen", ""], ["Looks like a fire unfortunately."], ["Sorry man, I had way too many durians after lunch"], ["Someone having bbq party, follow the cloud to good food"], ["That was me. Entering the atmosphere"], ["Normal. Happens there every day."], ["Retribution from PAS"], ["How could that be normal lmao", "I haven't seen a factory chimney for ages so I'm not sure \ud83d\ude02"], ["a nuke just got dropped"], ["You watched Spiderman : far from home? Same guy"], ["Trinity test"], ["That is a volcano eruption"], ["Mb bro, farted a bit"], ["OP's mom farted."], ["I believe one chemical/manufacturing factory catches fire, not great, not terrible."], ["It really depends on where. In some places, accident is normal."], ["Dragon ball ada 7 biji semuanya\u2026"], ["\ud83d\udc7d"], ["<image>\nSquare Enix is cooking on FF13 Remaster."]]}
{"title": "Malay Racism by local Chinese", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18u4epl/malay_racism_by_local_chinese/", "num_comment": 410, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Edit : those comments he made it sounds like a low key jokes. Since it\u2019s repetitive and explicitly mentioned Islam Malay race, I don\u2019t find it funny. Futhermore, at the beginning of the trip we almost got into an accident because of his distraction using his phone.\ni recently hired a private driver from Ipoh to Cameron Highlands (booked a month ahead) to show my foreign friends around CH. Note : I don\u2019t drive, that\u2019s why I hired a driver.\nUpon picking up he did mentioned to my foreign friend about the boycott of Starbucks, etc and how some states are very strict religious (Kelantan, Kedah). I was like oookay but brushed it off. While in the car, he made another comment about some attractions in CH where mostly are \u201cIslam Malays like you lah\u201d (his exact words) dressed up nicely and take photos. Again, I brushed it off cos yeah it\u2019s true and didn\u2019t think much of it. I just thought ok his kind of jokes lah.\nLater on during the drive, he made some other comments which unfortunately I don\u2019t remember anymore, but it started to made me uncomfortable. I did mentioned later on to my foreign friends about it. They don\u2019t really understand or gets what the driver said because of his slang. Some of the remarks was when one car at a junction try to selit driving into the lane, he said \u201cthis Malay ahh, I will not give a chance in my lane\u201d. \u201cBest time to visit CH is during puasa month where all Malays is fasting. No jam\u201d. \u201cAll this Malays lah that go out, we Chinese don\u2019t go out cos we don\u2019t like jam\u201d.. well, I saw a bunch of Chinese too. Mostly family with kids. When we passed by one of the tea plantation, there were so many cars parked at the road side. He made another comment \u201csee, this all Islam Malay people like you lah\u201d. One of my foreign friend asked \u201cwhat did you said\u201d and he ignored him. When we were looking for a parking lot, one Malay couple was about to leave. I said \u201cthank god to this Malay we got a parking spot in front of the plantation\u201d. Not sure he heard me or not.\nI looked up his Facebook page, all of his customers are foreigners and Chinese. Imagine, what kind of things he said to these people.. He shouldn\u2019t have accept my trip when he knew well in advance I am a Malay.\nI have never ever experience such a racism in my life, let alone in my own country. I have Chinese, indian, all kind of races friends and we got along well.", "comments": [["As a former grab driver, many hired drivers didn\u2019t land in that profession due to their intellectual prowess.", "lmao... i agree with you. just read any mandarin version grab driver fb group. they amount of hate and vitriol they have toward grab and the customers is insane. i saw one post not long ago scolding people for giving rm2 tip.", "What? Grab drivers expect people pay tip now?"], ["Leave an honest review", "Was thinking the same. Will do some time..", "Should just give him the middle finger before you leave.", "I\u2019m too baikkk \ud83d\ude05 when he dropped us off, he said thank you great trip. It was silent from all of us \ud83d\ude02", "Lol I'm getting downvoted for telling people to give their middle fingers to racists. Such is the Reddit community.", "i'd be happy too, got paid driving, not getting yelled at for risking customer's lives in car, talking a whole ton of brainless shits due to being so overconfidently smart and yet not a word of disapproval and lastly, felt like an emperor doing the peasants a service.\nlast last, kena viral pun xde video kah gambar kah... flex on \"kita diam ja dia macam syok ja.. dalam minda dan hati \"die tu bodoe\" tapi yg bodoe tu tak rasa langsung.. relek ja.. syok ja.\nLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOL\nHAHAHAHAHAHA\n>Insert age\n>insert fun fun\n:26555:"], ["I'm chinese and I've seen cina uncles and aunties like this. This behaviour needs to go. I love tearing down all the bs logic in racist conversations. This one is FULL of it.\nIf you don't like Malay, why you take Malay client?\nAlso saying that 'Malays jam the road'..... bruh. They're here for a HOLIDAY, not tearing the place up etc. What you don't want their money is it?\nThese people just don't want Malays around. Whats worse is they won't acknowledge their racism."], ["You were unlucky to have met such a driver. I hope you take action and report/leave a review to him. It's not Okay to take racism straight to the face like this.", "It's good if he/she does reveal the name or even better if there is a video because I don't want this to be a rage bait post.", "It was indeed. I will definitely will a review on his Facebook page", "", "You and I both know what I meant la, don't nitpick on gammer or sentence like that la comeon", "Sounds more like a you issue ngl, what the comment you're replying to seems very clear in intention.\nObviously all racism is bad, but when it's straight to the face it definitely affects you more, so it's worse to experience/encounter day to day"], ["So many comments here are just ridiculous.\nFirst things first, racism is never justified. It is pure discrimination, plain and simple. What that driver did, is sadly, a rather common occurrence and I am always disgusted by it. You could argue he was \"joking\" but based on OP, it has clearly went past any benefit of the doubt for it to be a \"joke\".\nHalf the comments here trying to justify the racism with things that mainly boil down to. -paraphrasing A) There's institutionalised racism in the other way. B) Nons have no special right\nIt makes the anger / negative attitude UNDERSTANDABLE, but not JUSTIFIED. Just like how we can understand a fear of small spaces (claustrophobia), but often not justifiable.\nHalf of the comments here stating things like 'now you understand how the nons feel.' Not to discredit your personal experience, I'm sure you have your reason to say that, and it might be your own personal experience, but saying that is akin to saying 'now you know how I feel' to a covid patient after recovering from covid. How is saying that helping anyone or beneficial? You didn't choose to be the target of racism, nor did OP.\nThe other thing I noted is that quite a few Malay commented how they used to be vocal about abolishing bumi rights and so on, but have stopped because they don't see a point in doing so anymore because it's a dammed if you do, damned if you don't situation. This just proves 2 wrongs don't make a right. The civil rights movement with MLK would not gain any success if it did not gain the support of the president of that time, a white man supporting a black man. Our common enemy are the racist. The supremacist. Not based on what we put under 'kaum' when we fill in our own personal information. How are we going to move forward to true equality when we keep showing each other hostility?", "The common malay are just as powerless about these policies. I'm not an employer or a landlord or a politician. All I can do to help is shut down racist comments made from my family and friends. To quote Satrapi \"The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me\"", "Absolutely agree, however I'm of the opinion that if the \"common Malay\" is not rallying against obvious racist policies, there's even less incentive for those in power to do anything about it.\nSo what you're doing in shuting down racist comments is already enough and should be applauded for that. Keep that up and maybe some day, some one who actually has power decides the status quo needs to be changed. Small steps can lead to big changes.\nAbsolutely agree with your quote about the difference between us and government. That's why we should all come together.", "Racism is racism dude, stop justifying racism. You can't justify racism by one race is because of this or that. That's total bullshit.", "What you are seeing here is just people thoughts and facts, I don\u2019t think most of them are justifying the racism including myself.\nA lot Malaysian who are here are more exposed to western values and modern acceptable norms. Especially the woke culture.\nMalaysia is in a very different place and time compared to the west.\nOur affirmative action isn\u2019t comparable to others countries but make no mistake, discrimination is discrimination and it will create the same problem as those that are oppressed, no matter in lighter or heavier forms. What the OP experienced and others that commented here is the result of the affirmative action.\nThe country will never really heals unless people start talking instead of pointing fingers", "I agree, people can express their thoughts, negative or otherwise. Facts are facts and nothing can change it. The reason why I say there seems to be a hint of justification of racism is based on context and usage of these facts by certain comments.\nParaphrasing and shorten from below comments -\nA: He is racist. All the talk about Malay supremacy, come to penang and you will hear talks of Chinese Supremacy. Same bullshit, applies to both. -> (Anectodal evidence, expressing thoughts, but generally in agreement that the driver is racist and therefore bad.)\nB: Chinese have special rights that malay are currently enjoying? -> (Trying to justify/reason that one party is more/less wrong to be racist due to the existence of \"special rights\" ; Usage of facts, the existence of special rights to try and justify racism.)\nC: We do, its called economic power. But the affirmative action policy is rotten and only benefits the politician instead of the bumiputera. -> (Went the opposite direction and used a common talking point of racist to justify certain racist policies)\nI agree with you as well, in regards to what OP experienced is the result of affirmative action, as well as how the country will never really heal until we stop pointing finger. But evidently, there are so many finger pointing here despite how \"a lot of malaysian here are more exposed to modern acceptable norms\". Hence my expression of dissapointment that there are quite a number of finger pointing going on here.", "If you asked me, it's better to stop reading these kind of post and just enjoy your weekend if op him/herself can't provide any proof to what they post because it is possible he/she is just rage baiting people.", "Now that you mentioned 'rage baiting', I do have to ask. I often see people suspect similar posts for rage baiting, is it a common enough occurence to warrant such a suspicion?\nSide note: OP's story seems believable enough to me, and I've seen it happen before myself. (That doesn't neccesarily mean this post is genuine). But IMO, I am much more dissapointed in the comments if anything, the post itself 'appears' genuine to me.", "Right? I'm chinese and I've seen cina uncles like OP's driver. Its believable to me.", "It's hard for me to say how common it is but I have seen post that's down right questionable. This is why as a rule of thumb always believe these kind of story with mountain of salt or even better don't believe at all since it's op that made this claim and it's up to them to show proof because the person just have to be a good storyteller to make it seem believable.", "Fair enough, I agree with you.\nPersonally, I was just expressing my disdain for a huge part of the comment section whether the OP's claim is true or not.\nHope you have a great weekend ahead!", "Lol if it's racism by Malay it will be raining upvotes but when it's racism by Chinese to Malay suddenly it's a false flag op?\nThis is like saying black Americans can't be racists."], ["I'm non but I can imagine being in your place and already felt disgusted by the driver's behaviour. Also felt a secondary embarassment for your friend.", "Thanks for your understanding. Like I said, I have never experienced such thing, neither oversea nor Malaysia. I also felt embarrassed to my friend and one of them wanted to say \u201cenough with the Malay comments\u201d if the driver say more about it."], ["There are racist in every race.", "True. But the hypocrisy by the Chinese is what that is pissing people off.\nMalays are very honest about their racism and despite institutional racism I\u2019ve never experienced racism personally from Malays (I\u2019m Indian).\nMeanwhile the Chinese act like oppressed minority and treat other minorities like rubbish. I went to SJKC and trust me, you\u2019ll know what the Chinese really think of you if you can understand the vile things they say behind your back.", "As an ethnic Chinese, I have to agree with your last sentence.", "Best part is they'll just say it even though you didn't do anything to/Interact with them, like say if you enter a lift or the same cable car or just minding your damn business queuing up for the train", "Thank you. They\u2019re the type who will use phrases like Satu Malaysia when it benefits them, but when it doesn\u2019t they will be racist as hell.", "I'm not Chinese I'm Malaysian?", "racism in any form is bad lol", "And generalizing like this is not racist? And your source is literally: Trust me bro.", "I think Indians would be well attuned to the nuances of racism on account of the Malaysian situation.", "He\u2019s just talking about his experience tho\u2026. Why are u mad?? Instead u should take it as a lesson to not being one of them racist people lol", "stop invalidating people\u2019s experience", "Look at the dumpster crabs in this thread generalizing people. Semua dua kali lima only.", "Malays are very honest about their racism and despite institutional racism I\u2019ve never experienced racism personally from Malays (I\u2019m Indian).\nMeanwhile the Chinese act like oppressed minority and treat other minorities like rubbish. I went to SJKC and trust me, you\u2019ll know what the Chinese really think of you if you can understand the vile things they say behind your back.\nTHIS.\nThe local Chinese are EASILY the most openly racist in the country, then spend all of their time telling everybody how racist of a country it is.\nWhile Malays keep the racism limited to the laws and roadblocks.\nI've never had a Malay stranger say anything racist to me about local Indians or Chinese, but the Chinese? The number of times they'd go into an \"I'm not racist, but\" rant...\nlol"], ["You can find them here too, lurking always ready to jump in and unleash their closeted racism on certain topics and comments :29091::29091::29091::29091:", "Agreed, sometimes this subreddit Chinese (I am Chinese myself) is too aggressive in seeking out racism and kiasu, ends up being racist themselves", "I kena attacked many times already by them.", "Yeah perhaps because the ground was never equal to begin with , and the privileged keep asking for more ground", "Nothing worse than having to skirt around issues that would label one a race traitor. There are those who are happy to coexist together and forge ahead, and those who don't."], ["That driver might be one of the monyets here lol", "True, if there was a bingo card for typical r/malaysia redditor comments, he would have gotten bingo twice"], ["I mean, the part about puasa month being the best month to go out without large crowds or traffic is true \ud83d\ude02", "I actually felt the same, this one point is just a matter of fact. It's the same as saying CNY/Raya is the best time to be in Klang Valley, no large crowd.", "it appears to be an insult to OP.", "I mean, that line, if standalone, is just an observation. I've sat with Malay grab drivers 'jam teruk sebab CNY'. Just an obsevation. But the whole conversation with OP is pretty racist.", "im going to cameron during puasa then. lel"], ["Malaysian Chinese are some of the most racist folks I have come across, with the Penang variety especially toxic.", "Penang kias are the worst. They really believe in their own hype."], ["A lot of Chinese people are just as racist. Difference is just that they're not backed by the government so they had to do it in a more clandestine manner", "The fact that indians would prefer to be friends with malays more (even with all the insitutionalized racism) over the \"not racist people\" , tells you all you need to know about how racists these people are.\nMalays are racists to other races because of power. Give them that and they'd shut up.\nThese \"not racist people\" are racists purely because they hate you\nMalays say shit like \"they want to steal our country\" or \"kafir cabar islam\"\nThey say shit like \"backwards 10anak pedos\" or \"apunene will kidnap you\"", "Exactly. Everyone should really learn mandarin and Hokkien and go to Penang for a weekend to listen in on what they say behind your back when they assume you don't understand. They're just unnecessarily mean and vicious even if they don't know you from Adam. Just walk around queensbay mall, get into a lift, or browse some mid tier shops (~300-400 dollar shoes/clothes).", "Can confirm. As an Indian, bumi laws and institutional racism aside, I\u2019ve never experienced personal racism from Malays.\nThe Chinese have treated me like rubbish my entire like (I went to SJKC). You cannot imagine the nasty things they say behind your back when they think you don\u2019t understand their language.", "GG if you're one of the dark ones it's either \"Kuli\" (more to central Malaysia) or apunene all the way.\nLittle shits of all ages thank you for your service by scaring them to submission (if you don't eat/finish homework/behave yourself apuneneh catch you)\nInb4 anyone says it's a global Chinese thing, it's not - have worked in china n the people are really nice. Some villagers may stare, take pictures and kids touch you and stuff cuz they haven't seen non-Hans in real life - it's the same effect when orientals go to India/pakistan in the deep rural areas or even places like old Delhi.\nThat said, there is still racism from pedalaman, kampung types if you're in SRK by your classmates (bile nk masuk isle, sembah patung masuk neraka, kling balik India) but you don't get random unprovoked statements like this uncle.", "nb4 anyone says it's a global Chinese thing, it's not - have worked in china n the people are really nice. Some villagers may stare, take pictures and kids touch you and stuff cuz they haven't seen non-Hans in real life - it's the same effect when orientals go to India/pakistan in the deep rural areas or even places like old Delhi.\nMalaysia's Chinese are the most racist I've ever been around, and that's counting:\nTaiwan\nHong Kong\nFilipino Chinese\nThai Chinese\nAmerican Chinese\nI actually stopped my Cantonese lessons of three years after moving here because I couldn't stand the toxicity. lol", "I was called uncle ta pien (correct my spelling please) by one of my wife\u2019s friends kids. I know what that means, (wife is Chinese) and the fact that I\u2019m brown skinned triggered the kid to say that, only goes to show what their parents teach them regarding people of colour.\nTo be a bit petty, their dads are more tanned than I am. In the words of the great Michael Jordan, fuck them kids.", "Anecdotal evidence at its finest... lol \"personal racism\"", "are you trying to invalidate other's personal experience?", "I've been mocked by Malay as Cina Babi + threatened for another 513, yet you dont see me crying about Malay being taliban/terrorist, while this fella think all Chinese are racist in order to justify his own racism. Lol yeah anecdotal evidence at it's finest", "yet you dont see me crying about Malay\nbut less intelligent\nthe only normal Indonesians are probably the ethnic Chinese(Tionghoa), Balinese Hindus and Christian", "fanfanye back at it again lmao", "Imagine there is some form of racism backed by the government /s"], ["Poor guy probably doesn't have any Malay friends.", "By whose fault if not his own. A grown man can think.", "Probably got rejected by a gyatt Malay awek"], ["Nothing uncommon. Those racist people whether its Chinese, Malay or any other races are the reason why national unity are as bad as now.\nBetter let them be. Because these kind of people are living under a rock. Living in different world"], ["It's just a fact that there are hella lot of racist people in the country, regardless of their race. It's the inevitable outcome of using race as the determining paradigm for policies, politics etc from the formation of the country until now. People are shaped by their lived realities -- doesn't excuse their behavior but does at least help us understand.", "Not an excuse .. he\u2019s a racist.", "Agree. He is racist. All those blab aboutMalay supremacy, just come to Penang and hear those Penang Lang talk about Chinese Supremacy there in Penang. Same all bullshit. It apply to both.", "Pretty much. Don't see it going anywhere anytime soon. Just have to accept Malaysia look nice on the outside only, multi culture this that. In the inside, we have people like this.", "Chinese have privileged special right and special pass malay are currently enjoying?", "We do, it\u2019s called economic power. But the affirmative action policy is corrupt at its core as well, instead of helping the bumiputera it only serves to benefit the politicians", "Does it provided free by the government? Also any chinese that isn't poor = stole land and resources from malay forefather since british era for these kind of group , its their coded response when you try to say chinese economics in here , its not a plus and don't use it.", "Chinese help chinese, that means we had rich colonial era chinese hand down their knowledge and resources to other chinese. Notice how chinese SRJKC are generally bigger and better funded? Some employers are also quite racist, or just rather speak Chinese than speak other languages, so you see Chinese SME mostly filled with other Chinese. Education and resources trickle down from the colonial forefathers. Plus we work hard and we have a culture of prioritizing material wealth (Ang Pau, 8888, Fatt Fatt, Gong Xi Ni, Toto Magnum 4D, Genting).\nAll these combined have put Chinese in another tier economically compared to the rest. It will take time to equalise. But bumi special rights is making you racist, and because you are racist, you make them hate us and label us \u201cracist Chinese\u201d.\nThis is why I say bumi special rights only benefit politicians. Because it makes people like you racist against Malays, and it enforces the dislike that Malays have against the Chinese. It was just a bandage solution to prevent more killings.", "Yeah for the top 1% big crocs maybe ,and nobody is stopping them learning chinese , it has nothing to do with the average joe of lower or middle income regular people , but instead of hating them big crocs they decide to label chinese= rich and hate all the chinese instead\nDon't forget this is a place where a \"melayu malas\" gets you in jail while cina babi pendatang penjajah penipu gets your a fuck tons of likes.", "Nobody is stopping the employer from learning Malay either, they just chose not to.\nI agree there are many poor Chinese as well, and this has affected them just because of their race.\nDo you not realise that bumi rights have made both Chinese and Malay racist against each other? How can you not realise that? How can you blame them but not the 1% big crocs that implemented this policy in the first place? Why are you so hypocritical and not realise you are doing the same thing and label malay = racists and hate all of the Malays?", "You seem to suggest Chinese are somehow racist against Malays because of bumi laws. This is the biggest rubbish I\u2019ve heard in my life.\nExplain why Chinese treat Indians like garbage then. Shouldn\u2019t Chinese people sympathise with Indians for being a fellow minority and treat them like allies? Reality is Chinese people treat Indians like dirt beneath their shoes. I\u2019m Indian and I can safely say despite bumiputera laws, Malays have treated me better than Chinese by far. Go and ask any Indian people or other minorities from east Malaysia and they\u2019ll say the same.\nChinese people are simply racist because they think they\u2019re superior. They can\u2019t even be bothered to learn BM because they think it\u2019s beneath them.", "You seems to agree with the policy in the first place by saying chinese also have the privileged rights by dominating the economics imply we are equal and suddenly claim i hate all malay , i don't, but i can't blame people for being racist when one privileged side can get away scot free with being racist and other side goes to jail", "This applies to the malays too bro. Your average Malay may be tricked when told the Chinese took his money but in truth it was taken by the elite malays who send their kids overseas and vacay there every few months.\nI keep saying it's a class war not a race war but we are all too blinder by our resentment of the other races.", "Yes. It is call over sympathy. Malay are too soft hearted. These are the specialities that have been benefits for some time.", "That sounds like a privilage both parties enjoy", "https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0Boi7KNsUTT4aEfqCYkWgxeM5LKExgsVz7J2Fpuvfe3EHSu89nEueenW7TsSwwSKol&id=100002268614992&mibextid=Nif5oz\nNothing looks too softhearted for me , i guess you're the gosok parang type , pls do it asap.", "Not the gosok parang type. The constitution is a social contract, breach it off means an act of war. It is better every one keep quit and just act according to the social contract. One less thing to worry about and let PMX do well in his Primeship", "The constitution is a social contract, breach it off means an act of war.\nThe constitution can be ammended, it's not something set in stone", "Something that we can Agree. We should change it. A nation needs to have only one strong identity. A one country rules by one government and one ruler.", "A nation needs to have only one strong identity. A one country rules by one government and one ruler.\nUhmm....", "You literally said its over sympathy for letting minorities have what they having rn , that means you think they shouldn't have any rights at all while they already a second class citizen. PMX who? The guy who literally just have the K-word pass?\nIm voting for pas next elections.", "Owh. A PAS supporter. No wonder", "Just to bring everything down faster.", "Somehow it's all crickets among the toons who voted him in. He's only gonna get worse, this is just the cinematic trailer\nPas can easily win if they just stop saying idiotic things. These guys are practically handing it over to pn with their mismanagement but I guess it's a race to the bottom in Malaysia all day everyday since 2008", "Pas literally gain more vote by saying stupid thing , sembelih all kafir , x suruh cina potong lanjiao even humiliated sultan yet it becomes the reason wins the biggest, we are on a high speed lane of right with no return and anyone that doesn't think so is delusional.", "Far right and far left are both bad. How can be stable if the government itself wobble from left to right and vice versa.", "I do think that is not an excuse to justify the racism displayed by the drivers. It is more like a sad reality on why this happens and how is this still happening. It is not going away any time soon, all race will come to face this problem.", "How exactly does fighting fire with fire solve the problem?"], ["The amount of excuses people make here for being racist just because he is Chinese, this sub is just full of hypocrite Chinese racists", "I grew up online (Gen Z) as a Malay and I've always been vocal IRL and online about abolishing bumi rights, affirmative actions, and fighting against racism etc.\nBut now that we have Ktads from LYN pouring in and other average Malaysians trolling this sub I realized that it's just an issue not worth caring about because I see how they are. I've been attacked many times simply because of my username. Abu Nawas is not even my name, he was a philosopher.\nBe pro-equality, still have Chinese people being racist at you.\nBe pro-bumi, same shit.\nWhy bother?\nEDIT: I talk about online experiences because it's something we all can relate to but I myself have also experienced a lot of real-life racism from Chinese people.", "Unfortunately it will take some time for newer generations to change the status quo. I feel sad for my racist friends and family. The bumi policy isn\u2019t helping assimilation at all, and PAS/DAP politicians also keep making the racial divide even larger to serve their own interests. Reading the comments in this sub has brought to light the true situation on the ground now about racism in Malaysia, it doesn\u2019t seem like we are truly that united, everything just on the surface for show only. We actually have a lot of work to do.", "Just try and say Pas/dap are two sides of the same coin and watch yourself being downvoted by the ultra red beans", "agree lah. I used to preach about abolishing bumi rights and shit but I realize whats the point anymore? will abolishing bumi rights make all malaysian learn malay? Will ablolishing bumi rights make cultural assimilation a thing?\njust like you said why bother anymore.", "<image>\nWhy bother? Lets protest the intake of non bumis instead. /s", "pls la. special bumi rights should be abolished because it helps the malays - yeah that's right, how's that for an out of the box take.\ndon't do it because you want to do virtue signalling", "Again, as I said, I don't bother about bumi rights anymore. I never benefitted from it anyway. People crack it up to be something bigger, while in reality, it's not life-changing.", "They don\u2019t need to be abolished or bulldozed. They just need to be quietly died down.", "Chinese are not just racist in Malaysia, unfortunately.", "They even have a lot of in-fighting. North vs. South. Taiwan vs. Mainland. Diasporas vs. Mainlanders. Etc.", "Yeah they also have Sunni vs Shia, Indonesia vs Malaysia", "If you're trying to bait me, I am a Malay who's not a Muslim and I am part-Indonesian.\nIn my opinion, most people are awful regardless of creed.", "Well at least have some nuance then instead of generalising that Chinese as a people have a lot of infighting \ud83e\udd37\u200d\u2642\ufe0f you want unity? Don\u2019t la throw fire on hate \ud83e\udd26\u200d\u2642\ufe0f\nBtw bro, how are you a non muslim Malay in Malaysia? I\u2019m curious, did you go through official channels or just senyap senyap don\u2019t practice? Any backlash? I asking coz my friend married into muslim", "What does unity look like? The USSR? Pol Pot's regime? Marxism? It doesn't exist and it never will. Me making a comment about Chinese in-fighting doesn't mean that I don't think the same about Africans or Arabs or even Europeans.\nI am non-Muslim because I decided to be non-Muslim. Who cares what my documents say? If I leave Malaysia, it will stop being relevant anyway.\nYes there is backlash, by baboons who never think for themselves.", "Unity looks like Sabah", "You mean poverty.", "Bro just said Kota Kinabalu = poverty \ud83d\udc80", "So is this generalisation? How all muslim are terrorist sounds to you?", "hilarious", "They will track you down and behead you, watch out. Sleep in fear tonight.", "oh no ahhhhh takut", "Now that's an actually racist take lmao. What race does not have racists? Just discuss the issue la, racism = wrong, no matter the context or race. Why gotta spew ur closeted racism here? Gtfo you're as much of a problem as the driver if you're a racist"], ["This is probably where the sentence \"kamu balik china lah\" would be justified cuz since he hate malays so much and thinks all chinese are oh so good then pindah to china lor\nIm saying this as a chinese ok,we all are born here so the most basic mindset is to just idk not hate each other because of race ok? :26558::26558:"], ["You are unlucky to have met the typical racist Chinese. Apologies on their behalf, mate.\nThose are the type of people who look down on other races just because they were born Chinese. It is like auto pandai, kaya compared to other races; other races are beneath them.\nWhen you try to fight back, they will play victim.\nUnfortunately, most of these racists are those in the B40, M40 categories. Ironic, isn\u2019t it?"], ["All this Malays lah that go out, we Chinese don\u2019t go out cos we don\u2019t like jam\nnah bro, this one isn't true. As a Chinese, I can confirm most chinese also like to stuck in traffic jam esp. during holiday. Chinese are the most kiasu one. Everyone goes outing during holiday, chinese x boleh tahan also want to go out.", "I also disagree with his opinion. I was like \u201cbanyak je chinese. Even Indians\u201d. It was during school break after Xmas. Of course there\u2019s huge traffic from all kinds of races. Even from Singapore."], ["When we were looking for a parking lot, one Malay couple was about to leave. I said \u201cthank god to this Malay we got a parking spot in front of the plantation\u201d. Not sure he heard me or not.\nLmao this is a good comeback (imo)\nAnyways, OP, I really hope you reported this guy and also criticize him kaw kaw in your review.", "One of my friend said good I said that \ud83d\ude02\nYes I will some time write a review on his Facebook page"], ["I had this Indian lady who mistakenly thought my worker had given her the wrong change. It was the correct one.\nBut the interaction is somewhere along \u201cInilah orang Islam\u2026\u201d right to her face."], ["I\u2019m a Singaporean Muslim (non Malay). I feel like Malaysian Chinese who don\u2019t \u2019make it\u2019 in life have a chip on their shoulder against Malays and Muslim in Malaysia. I was in Penang (not going back, too boring) and the Chinese drivers can\u2019t seem to wait to let you know how they feel about Malays in their country."], ["Should leave a comment or review on his fb account."], ["Haih. I've been around long enough to see this sort of racism from all races.\nThe only difference is how openly racist he is to you in front of your face. Usually talk bad behind, this one talk bad in front asking for a bad review."], ["TIL there are racist people in Malaysia /s"], ["Give him negative 5 stars if you could. Elaborate the situation briefly in the reviews. Fuck racism."], ["Sounds like the average /r/Malaysia redditor OP."], ["Racism in Malaysia has always been rampant. Before it was mostly locals on foreigners; now finally it\u2019s becoming prevalent among the locals themselves.\nBack in 2011, I was literally told by an aged Chinese man \u201cI don\u2019t talk to your kind, get lost\u201dwhen me and my friend simply asked for directions to Pavilion in KL. One of the many examples. Outright racism that I have faced in Malaysia in my first 3 months, I haven\u2019t faced that in 3 years in Australia (a supposedly racist nation)\nA slippery slope, my friends."], ["We\u2019re Malaysians. We\u2019re racist to each other.", "Sadly.."], ["Speaking of racism, If we do something which is the right thing, are we considered racist too ? A few time I experience people called racist for wanting to do the right thing as racism is kinda subjective too. Not to say the driver here is not racist.\nFor example (I don't mean to generalize certain race, just example where doing the right thing can be viewed as 'racism' by certain people):\nI want only poor bumis to be helped, rich bumi should not get any help anymore and all the resources should be focused to help poor bumi -- I am called a racist for some reason even I didn't say the resources go and help non-bumi.\nThere is a time where my department is like 90% from a single race, I approve new people to department based on a standard test. Some people are uncomfortable with my department being majority a single race and asked me to \"lower\" acceptance score to increase the diversity of my department -- Somehow I am the racist one. Dude, my department already at full capacity and hiring people who didn't fit the skill needed will doom my department.\nThe most frustrating incident where I am called racist by BOTH side during one time I need to handle a promotional material for my club.\nI have a BM version of our Christmas promotion, It's just something like \"Selamat Hari Krismas, semoga kamu begembira dengan promosi kami\". Some people complain that I am not sensitive and racist , aske me to not use BM because it might make the event seems to be Islamic event and might confuse people. (Since when BM = Islam) ?\nThen I just do the materials in English, Tamil, and Chinse. THE SAME PEOPLE say I am racist again for not having BM, saying I see BM not important and thus not using it. I reply when I use BM you all said I am racist, I no use BM you all said I am racist again, what dafak you want me to do ? They keep quiet and left the club, I'm done lmao.", "The only comment I feel worth replying because I can feel your frustration as a marketer - tired of the vile shit from the others from both sides of the coin.\nJust a thought: don't you think maybe they were just setting you up for failure, maybe they wanted you out anyway? You know la, office politics.\nMy question is, did you check first if BM is required? I understand sometimes you need BM in everything although I think the current climate might make BM for Christmas a contentious issue. You could maybe table your opinion first and see what they decide before execution? I'm not sure what industry you're in but I'd fuck it all and just do English alone. My excuse is if cannot read English then you're probably not the target audience."], ["As a chinese I feel uncomfortable and cringed by reading the dialogues from him ._. Unfortunately after years of modern education we still have those kinds of people here, being racist towards other ethnicity in the roots of their minds. Hopefully you won't encounter this kind of person in the future.", "Thank you for your understanding. I lived in Austria for 13 years, I have never experienced racism. Until few days ago, in my own country. I also hope that I don\u2019t have to encounter this again. Thank you!", "Hi, if you don't mind what kind of job did you do while in Austria? I am interested in emigrating to europe\nBut I am just a fresh grad tho"], ["Now i know how that one guy from America said malay ppl kil Christians and destroy churches came from \ud83d\ude02 must be from his visit to Malaysia when hearing things from this kind of unker"], ["Bruh... that's just fucked up. I'm sorry you had to go through that, and I seriously, honestly wish I was in that car with you so I could just lay it back on the dude. Nobody should be allowed to be that rude and racist and be allowed to walk away unscathed.", "Thanks bruh.\nFurthermore, we told to him cut the trip short cos we were tired but mocking us \u201cyou young people why tired. Look at those backpackers carrying huge bags not tired\u201d. Side note: we are half the age of the backpackers. He should be happy to cut the trip short and still we pay full price. My foreign friend said it\u2019s exhausting to discuss something with him.", "Is he a Chinese uncle?", "He is indeed a Chinese uncle.. I had Chinese uncles as my grab drivers in Penang. Some of them, we had a really good conversation."], ["Man this guy was disturbingly comfortable with his racism.... Makes me wonder how much worse he is behind closed doors.\nFwiw, OP, this is an unfortunate reality for a lot of people where some assholes are just very comfortable with being a racist piece of shit to your face. But from experience, they very quickly back down or shut their mouths the minute you call them out on it. Most of us are just too polite in these situations, so its likely they haven't experienced anyone actually telling them off for their racist behaviour."], ["In this community only Malay racist other race no racist /s", "Versa to you bolehlanders , privileged and government backed majority vs suppressed discrimination minorities was being asked to give up more rights", "The only people that actually benefit from the bumi right is the people on top of the hierarchy pyramid. Ie elites.", "but you posted on bolehland. Are you not one of them too?", "Shhh ,hydra dominatus."], ["He is a redditor."], ["Racism is not unique to any race. It is more prevalent among the uneducated. So a boomer driver? Not surprised.", "Even among the educated ones. Seen plenty of them here in Reddit."], ["Unfortunately, racism still happened in Malaysia and it's not only by specific races."], ["Report that guy, just a shameful act of racism. On Chinese social media and press, Malay on Chinese is so frequently reported and the comments are like \"oh we are bullied for being a unique small minority\",but I actually also felt that Chinese on Malay is also frequent in the form of stereotypes, just that Chinese people is known to keep their feelings to themselves and being clever about it. Seriously, if we were to achieve actual unity, this has to change."], ["Hey OP, wait until you learned how badly racist some Chinese are against Indian people."], ["I just hope this story didn\u2019t get into FB & Twitter. I\u2019m tired reading racist posts here and there all the time."], ["This is what happens when you live in your own bubble and not befriending people from other backgrounds. Ignorance breeds hate.\nMost Malaysian aspire the same. To have an honest living and practice our own things.", "Did you not read that OP has\u2026foreign friends and local non-malay friends?", "I am referring to the racist uncle, iant it obvious?", "Nope, not to me. Using the word \u201cyou\u201d breeds my assumption that you are referring to OP as obviously you don\u2019t have direct contact with the driver, unless he is your dad or something.\nAnd the uncle is a driver by trade. We can assume he met people from different backgrounds so excuse my misunderstanding", "Exactly. Don't use the word \"you\" unless the person is being addressed directly. Use third person pronouns instead."], ["Op, there are many ppl like this who are tin kosong. This is oral diarrhoea from orang tak educated. They open their mouth and talk shit cause they are looking for conflict. I can gurantee this type of bodoh are the ones that go home to the wife and kids and talk shit in the family too. Believe me, I\u2019m sure his children don\u2019t see this man as father of the year, unless his kids are also bengap like him. He was really overstepping talking to you and your foreign friends like this- not professional at all. You need to proactive next time. When you paid for a service and things are making you feel uncomfortable- you need to speak up. This man so anti Malay this and that- he still take the Malay money right? So he can stfu. When ppl go off topic, \u2018hello sir, please end this type of conversation, I don\u2019t pay for this political talk\u2019. Be firm, but polite. If more ppl can speak up against idiots talking shit in the streets- this world would be a better place."], ["CASE-1:I booked grab and I was waiting for 15min approx, then a Chinese lady driver came , as soon as she noticed I'm a foreigner she ran away with her car \ud83d\ude02, that time me and my friend laughed so hard.\nCASE-2: I share my apartment with a local Chinese gentleman aged nearly 40-45. in this apartment the rule is that everyone should keep the common area silent after 10 at night. so me and my friend take our dinner at 9-10 usually. but this china guy sometimes got mad, shout, throws tables Infront of us and says that why we eat at 9, we should take our meal at 7\ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02. also he implies rules that we even cannot do an egg fry after 7 at night. already informed the management team but that didn't work unfortunately, after contact maybe I can change my apartment.", "Bruhhh\u2026 that grab situation happened to me last week in Penang. He was Chinese uncle. Waited almost 10 mins and he was secs away to fetch me and two foreign friends, he cancelled\u2026 drove passed us too \ud83d\udc80"], ["Tipu ni cina mana ada racist. Melayu je yang racist"], ["Somwthing off topic, if you are to post this in bolehland, i wonder what will be the replies like.", "The exact same replies as the comments in this post i would bet, just with different race."], ["Sounds like your typical racist Chinese unkerr"], ["come to penang lah, they even call you huana (barbaric people) in normal daily conversation and nothing racist about that to them.", "Huana literally means malay people", "Huana just means Malay", "I grew up in Ipoh and they called white people \"gwai lou\". It's devil or something.", "That's Cantonese. Chinese people in Ipoh are mostly Cantonese and Hakkas. Gwei Lou is transliterated as \"ghost fella\" because they are white as ghosts. I'd imagine some white guy in the past exaggerated the explanation to his fellow white people by using \"devil\" to sound more sensational (and maybe cool) and it caught on.\nFun fact for you, the uncommon opposite version which non-Chinese probably don't know is \"hak gwai\" which literally means \"black ghost\", used to describe Africans. It technically does not apply to Indians, if you hear someone say that then they're not just racist but categorically stupid in his attempt at racism.", "I see. Thanks for explaining!", "I hear hak gwai and hak chai used against Indians all the time. It\u2019s not uncommon.", "if you hear someone say that then they're not just racist but categorically stupid in his attempt at racism\nThe original meaning was meant for Africans. As I said, racist just gonna be racist.", "Bro, that doesn\u2019t make it better tau.", "Huana is literally how hokkien people call malay and there is no degratory in it.", "Teochew people also, afaik there's no alternative word because that's the only word my grandma was taught growing up.", "'then the K word is how melakans call indians , theres no degratory meaning in it '\nSee how that sounds ? Huana is still an ethnic slur with deeper meaning in other places such as the philipines or taiwan", "Yeah but we are not taiwan or philipines , the other is not goverment backed , we don't purposely say it to degrate people , simply because there is no other word in hokkien to call malay people or widely know yet , you can launch a cancel culture on them , but cancelling is a west liberal thing you might want to avoid it", "What about calling them Malay or Melayu instead though?\nI'll be like me calling my dad Keling because I grew up with the word and for some insane reason, never hearing the word Tamil in my life.", "There no such word exist in hokkien yet , and educating language outside of main mandarin dialect in sjkc is illegal the teacher will cane you for even speaking one hokkien word , hokkien education is non existence how do you expect people to change, launch a cancel culture then , but then there will be people purposely use it for degratory because yall just put a degratory meaning in it by trying to cancel it.", "So you want to invent a new word? Good luck with that.", "That\u2019s literally how language evolve. You think we\u2019ve always had the word \u201cbasikal\u201d ??", "I live in Penang (till mid Jan 2024 before going back to Austria). And I have many Chinese grab drivers. Never a problem. I remember I had a really good conversations with some of the Chinese drivers."], ["ni mesti jenis suka hon x penyabar"], ["Now you meet one, as an ethnicity cina guy, next time you heard some racist remarks from them, just talk in Mandarin or Hokien or Cantonese i understand Chinese, you will be surprised by their face changes XP"], ["He is racist and weak that why he only focus on the disadvantage in life. Life condition him to be that way. But guess what even if he born as malay he will find some other negative on Chinese and other races also.\nCan't help him but to pity him.\nWe should all be equally treated and look for the positive side of the world."], ["Plenty of those racist in this sub. You're wasting your time posting here."], ["REVEAL THE NAME", "And you will just believe this post by an anonymous poster? Without any evidence of such incident?", "Pls reread what I type because I want proof and not another rage bait post.", "Sry replied to the wrong comment", "Apology accepted", "Yup, need some proof. If not it\u2019s just flaming and look at the commenters going wild.", "Yupe and people are typing alot of colourful comments when there's no proof from op side."], ["Racism is everywhere if you see it.\nIt\u2019s a pity that he chose to live his life around it.\nI can\u2019t blame him and I won\u2019t condone this kind of behaviour, we live in a country that has institutions and open racism to the non and what you experienced is daily life of the non more or less.\nI hope we can one day break from this vicious cycle of hatred."], ["I\u2019m a foreigner and live with Chinese family. Sadly racism is a thing towards Malay\u2026"], ["Review, \"thank you but please shut up next time, I need a driver not a storyteller\""], ["You should have asked him to stop or call him out when he says anything racist. Usually people who are racist out in the open have either a lack of shame or they are really lowly educated."], ["Thats why he become a grab driver and not working elsewhere that need more intellects"], ["just drive motor lah kalau tak nak jam only OL je i see naik moto senang"], ["He could be the next makcik kemboja, if only you record then let the authorities handle him."], ["Hey, maybe you'd meet the uncle again during the next r/Malaysia meet up session. Now got common topic."], ["The worse part is they called it \"free speech\". Racism in Reddit is also getting bad by the day."], ["this uncle is probably those shit stain ccp supporters who call china their mother country too."], ["We the government, teachers and parents should educate the school students about race equality and racism."], ["your mistake was you did not shut him down when he first started talking shit. you should have told him that you are not paying him to talk, but drive. you allowed him to continue and he took that as you agreeing with what he said and so he pushed his limits and went on further. as the employer, you should have done that. you are accountable for the experience that your foreign friends are having."], ["Welcome to the experience of every other non Malay in Malaysia."], ["Looks like you\u2019ve just found CCP supporter."], ["What country do you think you're in? Communities actively generalise each other or get opinions on each other through Tik Tok / political parties"], ["My last Grab ride back from the airport was in a Malay fella's car \u2014 had a good chat about stuff that the whole 45 minutes felt like 15 minutes.\nIf anything my long term (10+ years) hired car guy is a Malay fella as well we get quite candid about such conversations as well, dude had done nothing but be on time and a good conversationalist. We spoke relatively 'controversial' subjects because we were both each other's soundboard on things like this.\nAs some has mentioned here you got unlucky."], ["It's unfortunate you end up with this moron. Even the worst racist I know is professional if he was paid for a service."], ["He's an idiot, and obsessed with Malays.\n\"thank god to this Malay we got a parking spot in front of the plantation\u201d isn't racist, but why even need to mention the race unless he's obsessed with them?\\\nThere was a bunch of racist things tho"], ["Funny how Malay keep saying don\u2019t paint them with one brush then proceed to paint all Chinese with one brush lol", "they literally said that this Grab driver was the first time they had experienced such racism, and that they had lots of Chinese and Indian friends who were perfectly alright\nIronically you're the one saying \"Malays keep saying\" as if they're all one monolithic group", "Actually there are a lot of Chinese who are racist and I say that as a Chinese person myself. The in-your-face racists like that driver are rare though.", "Now put a mirror on your comment. Replace race \"x\" and put race \"y\" in the same spot. Doesn't make sense right? Because it's still same thing."], ["finally understand how minority feel in this country?", "yala cina cannot be rasis only malay only", "More like privileged goverment backed majority prohibited a supressed discriminated minorities to talk back while they can freely do so without consequences", "prohibited a supressed discriminated minorities to talk back? what minorities cannot talk balk ke? tak paham le", "Blh , tapi masuk lokap", "Calling minority balik tongsan and K word no issue. The cambodian merchant saying M word (lazy) police involved KEK.", "Ask minorities like indians who are more racist to them, the \u201cgovernment backed majority\u201d malays or the fella minorities chinese\nSee what you come up with for the results and lets us know", "Nobody going to jail by saying indian malas ,your pmx even got himself a k-word pass , privileged ones.", "Why MY pmx? Youre not gonna claim youre malaysian now? Why bother posting on this subreddit if you cant even pretend youre a malaysian?", "Well i didn't vote for him plus given your comment i bet you're one of those call us pendatang anyway, does it matter?", "Did i ever even imply that? Lmfao. Is it just like your lifestyle to feel victimised in any sort of discussion because you cant handle that you are wrong?\nJust because you didnt vote for PMx doesnt mean that he\u2019s not your prime minister. Every Malaysians had to go through 50+ years of BN, are you going to say that all the previous PMs werent your prime minister too? Do you really think people were proud to call the BN PMs their PM even with all the corruption back then? Or are you really happy calling Najib your PM but not PMX lol?\nLoser malaysian mentality thinking, only wants to claim to care about Malaysia but never wants to admit anything that is part of Malaysia and then complain when nothing changes", "Perhaps you should to get your brethen to admit cina are malaysian first", "Why my brethen? How come you dont wanna claim those people to be a part of your brethen too? Somehow youre making it like i\u2019m the one who has the division mindset when youre the one who cant stop thinking that me and you arent from the sane group lol\nYour internalised us vs them is so chronic man start having friends irl"], ["Been subject to racism from a very young age so nothing new here (you are fortunate to be so shielded). Cina babi, balik Cina and even school teacher saying \u2018mata sudah sepit lagi mahu mengantuk\u2019 - accepted this since very young and already numb to it."], ["Alhamdulillah, I saw the comments here and I will keep them in mind the next time I vote.", "Vote based on proposed policies not some salty comments on a reddit thread lol", "Thats not gonna be good for ph with all those new tax coming in and impending subsidy cut.", "New luxury tax and targeted subsidy if I'm not mistaken, bad for rich tycoons but good for common folks no?", "All kena, rich t20 luxury tax, increased income tax,\nm40 below rm500 online purchasing tax, increased electricity tariff, no fuel subsidy\nB40=Win with increased br1m, fuel subsidy.\n2024 gonna be a smashing year.. no wonder Chinese says 4 is suwey.", "b40 definitely kena also.. business owned by M40 and T20.. if these people are hit, the goods that B40 buy is gonna get hit too.", "You got me at the last part \ud83d\ude02 take my upvote", "So you just gonna believe some random reddit post.", "Who cares who you vote, go ahead hahahahahahah"], ["Thx to our great government that been playing racism cards n promote \"bumi rights\" which rose unfairness n equally questions in the sunlights.\nPlus they purposely brainwashing people to be racism , so we keep fighting between ourselves while the politicians sitting on top enjoying our ripped off taxes money n corruption.\nBe awake people, be clarity of mind, knowing what causes all these n walk yourself away from this.\nEdit: typo correction"], ["ill say ,just go back to main land", "Don't fight racism with more racism", "Nah, they need a taste of their own medicine - they know what they're doing is wrong, and if they didn't, now they'll know how it feels\nPrimitive idiots need primitive lessons. Start at the bottom of the pyramid then work yourself up", "Who are these 'they'? You are speaking of? OP posted 1 racist guy who happens to be Chinese. You are going to blame the whole race because of 1 person?\nYour moral high ground 'so high'", "\"They\" refers to the individual racists. If someone pokes your eye they should be ok with their eyes being poked out", "Luckily, for the rest of us, we have the justice system. You go ahead and poke people's eyes then, will read about you in the headlines", "Well, maybe u should go back to Indonesia?", "What is this logic? Not ALL Malays are from Indonesia.\n???"], ["Generally the older generations can be very racist, they're mostly the product of their time and don't think being racist is a big deal. For Gen Z onwards there's absolutely no reason to be racist piece of shit. These people mostly just wanna be edgy or going all out to be an asshole because it's cool. Otherwise, they are people who grew up in an echo chamber and never go out their comfort zone when socialize. And I'm speaking of people of all skin colors."], ["Blame it on the individual, his up bringing has led him to this path as fate we would have called it. Just let it be. Racism a worldwide problem, since the dawn of men."], ["The irony being a post about a racist Chinese driver while the comments are being racist against Chinese in particular.\nLet's just make this clear as day, the driver is racist, period. more than likely uncle type who don't know when to keep their mouth shut. Met a few of them but they mostly talks about business even though I have no interest\nHowever whether a person is racist or not does not depend on race, is the individual, if you disagree then you are a racist. Chinese, Indians, Malays and every single race all have their bad apples and just leave it at that."], ["Sorry u have to go through that, us Chinese don't claim him", "Thank you bro \ud83d\ude4c\ud83c\udffd"], ["We found the private driver y'all!", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of Rule 1: Bigotry and hate speech.\nThis is an official warning to stop fanning racial flames on this thread, or a ban will be imposed.", "People like you hurt non-racist Malays. Wow.", "So u just paint everyone with one brush ? In your mind all malays are racist hence all Malay deserves to be treated that way ?"], ["wow...not even election season and still got race-baiting propaganda....what's going on?"], ["You ain't a racist if you are Chinese.\nEdit: calm down guys not all Chinese ok. Only some."], ["Hohoho don\u2019t worry. Institutionalised racism still in place. Ketuanan still rules.", "It\u2019s so funny that the word ketuanan has been mentioned by no one in daily conversations. Not even the Malays themselves.\nMeanwhile Cina ledditors lol.", "Just because you didn\u2019t hear it mentioned doesn\u2019t mean it doesn\u2019t exist.", "It does exist. I was merely pointing out where or by whom the word was most used."], ["feels great on the receiving end huh? I'm sorry that you had to experience racism, the driver's behavior is inexcusable, but not out of the ordinary as a Malaysian, so... shake it off, I guess? like so many nons and minorities in the country", "Thanks, OP feels better now. /s"], ["man you know, you sound like a well to do guy, and im not defending him but this fella is a driver helpless has to work his ass off to survive watching prices go up and up and up all the time while making basically less and less because of price gouging and rideshare apps\nmalaysia is full of racism, all against all, if you wanna single this chinese out for hating malays i also think you're being a bit naive or over indignant, basically people are dissatisfied with the government and taking it out on each other\nbe a bigger person and think compassionately instead of showing how disillusioned this guy is to the entire reddit"], ["As a Malay, I wonder what Chinese who regularly engage with the foreigners or expats tell them about Malays and Malaysia in general. I studied in Europe and I was once asked by my Eurpoean classmate whether it's true in Malaysia everyone is prohibited from drinking becayse Islam dictates us. I was like, \"everyone? you sure?\". Sigh. FYI, we have Malaysian Chinese in the class too, so I kinda sus thats where they got the wrong info from. Again, not all Chinese. Chinese are like Kelantanese, well organised and unionised people, but their unity kinda annoy people around them.", "I'm currently studying in Europe and whenever someone ask if they should go to Malaysia, I tell them just go there for the food and nature", "Maybe Islam is the one who make a bad name to Malaysia?", "As for the case of drinking, only the Muslims are prohibited tho. Not everyone. Non muslims rights to their lifestyle is duly protected.", "but majority of the population doesn't want Malaysia to be promoted that way...They'll rather let Malaysia to be known as the Mecca of the east or something and Islam doesn't have good reputations among western Europeans", "Then why can\u2019t people wear shorts in Kelantan?"], ["You seriously comparing how black Americans being treated in the US to how non bumi being treated in malaysia ?\nWhat ?!!! How ?!!!!\nAs per you mention, Chinese owned business is the core of Malaysian economy. How can a group of people that have these kind of success still thinks that thy are being treated worst that blacks American in America where they have been systematically put in poverty and at one point slaves by the American whites ?\nThis is why I hate people like you ! Yes here there\u2019s racism in Malaysia. no one can deny it but for you to belittle the hardship of black Americans it\u2019s craaazyyyy to me !!! Nuts !", "Yes, non bumis are openly discriminated in Malaysia and that is an ugly fact. From Education to Businessses. It's not a country based on meritocracy. Listen, I know of non bumis with Straight As and denied entries to do medicine in local Unis but for Bumis, they could get in with lesser grades. Government scholarships given to Bumis with lesser grades than Non Bumis ( straight As) despite the non bumis parents being hawkers... wtf.\nI dont think I said anything to belittle the hardship of black Americans. Black Americans do have a louder voice in the US than the Chinese in Malaysia. Blacks face hardships due to their own work and home culture and attitudes. So u r jumping to wrong conclusions.\nI don't have data to prove that Chinese owned companies are the core of the Malaysian economy today considering many Bumi enterprises are also very large but the Chinese entrepreneurs in 70s to 90s did help build the economy. Unfortunately the Malaysian Govt does not want to give credit to them.they are constantly told to thank the Malays?? Pfft...for what? Only in Malaysia do u have Malay dominated politicians openly threatening another race. Do u think the white Americans can say \"black ppl, don't test our patience with u??\" . Even South Africa does not behave like Malaysia..pls go get ur facts right.\nMalaysia is a sad state with a divisive Govt for the past 30 yrs. A truly none progressive mindset, esp the politics and Govt.\nMalaysia would be a far more progressive country if the government stopped it's racial politics. A country so rich in natural resources but poorly developed local talent due to racial politics and discrimination is the cause of Malaysia's poor economy and quality of life. The problem is u have this small elite group of Malays who wants control of the Malays to win elections. I don't have the data but only a small elite group of Malays are reaping the rewards but more than 60pct of them are struggling financially. This is just general observation.\nIt will take generations to reverse this sick racism in Malaysia.", "As a Malay who is pro abolishing bumi rights, I don\u2019t feel welcome in this fight for equality in malaysia if on the other side are people like you who painted every Malays with the same brush.\nThe simple fact is, you need Malays on your team to win the equality fight in malaysia . This will never happen when we see what kind of sick opinion the people that want to fight for \u201cequality\u201d have on malays in general.\nTepuk dada, Tanya selera.. you wanna fight against racism, then don\u2019t be racist first \u2026\nAnd for your simpleton mind let me tell you this, Black Americans may have a louder voice now, but most of them are still in poverty. Look at facts, get off the internet. Compare the household income of Chinese Malaysian and black Americans in the context of each country\u2019s demographic la.", "I agree with u. All races should work together and push the entire nation forward. It's frustrating for non bumis to be constantly told they don't belong to Malaysia when all they know is about Malaysia. Racism is toxic and will never go away but the government should not openly use it as a tool to win votes and constantly poison the minds of Bumis that Chinese are a threat to the Bumis existence. The Chinese are not interested in taking any privileges from the Malays. They just want to earn a decent living for their families. The Govt should stop sowing hate into the minds of Malays that Chinese are a threat..it just builds this distrust amongst races. I agree that not all Malays are racist but many view non bumis as trying to take things away from them.\nIt's just disheartening to see a country with so much resources and talent to be in this state.", "If I'm malay why would I ever want it to change. I'm a privalaged race. My local politicians and religious leaders remind me everyday that I'm the superior race and everyone else is beneath me. I get free handouts in terms of welfare and bumi discounts. If I get an income of only 3k rm I am very contented. I daily look at religious and propaganda tiktok and FB telling me all the bad things other races are trying to sabotage us and they will be our downfall. While at the same time coming into major liberal cities looking for work under Chinese bosses and do gigs treating it as a full time job. Also under the management of other races. Then have to also rent from nons as well but quietly curse them inside of being a non halal abode.\nI do not ever see this nation progressing ever in the next coming century even. We are only a step or crisis away from regressing into a total taliban like Islamic state. Don't have to look far. ACEH is a good example. If tht ever comes to happen. Malaysia is gone. Malay conservatives won. All nons would desert Malaysia in droves and any hope of Malaysia ever developing into a 1st world state is gone while other aswan countries overtake us and our main import then will be security guards and maids.", "Haha this guy is the supreme ultra malay tuan tanah, no use arguing with him", "\"The Chinese are treated far worse than the blacks in the US\"\n\"As a Malay, most will feel supreme over other races..\"\nI know you are racist, but perhaps try to get out of your bubble sometimes and interact with people?\nReading your comment makes me shiver, to think there are still hardcore racist like this as Malaysians.", "The Chinese are treated far worse than the blacks in the US\nExcuse you? Call us woke for knowing of their slavery and in 2023, blacks still get SHOT, LYNCHED for existing. It feels good to be in control by putting another race down, doesn't it? We're not the ones being randomly stopped by the street for 'spot checks' or followed around in stores as if we're stealing.\nNo one is ignoring your first paragraph, but you really sound like an All Lives Matter apologist. \"I hate everyone equally!\"", "That's coz blacks have a higher risk of killing others due to their historical crime track record..it's unfortunate but black youths have given themselves that reputation. The police see them as high risk so they get shot. I disagree with the way the police behave but the US is actually a pretty messed up ctry now. That is the sad fact. A bunch of hypocrites and corrupted Democrats and Reps. China will overtake the US.", "Bruh this man is purely a racist fella why is he not banned here, mods need to put a warning on his username tbh idk if he\u2019s super racist or super dumb", "Bro, in what way are Chinese Malaysians treated far worse than blacks in the US?", "This clown hasn't heard of apunenehs apparently", "Go learn history bro", "Bro, u have Malay politicians openly tell the Chinese to go back to China. Which part of Malaysia do u live in? Do u have the US government tell the blacks to go back to Africa because America.is for whites? Do u hear the American government threaten the Blacks that they were not welcome in the US altho they were born there? Duh. .I know my facts and lived thru racism there..so don't tell me bs bro. I m just stating the truth in Malaysia for the Chinese..if u can't handle it,.so be it.\nRacism in any country is bad but the sad truth is no one hides in Malaysia."], ["That is messed up. Probably weren't even aware his words reek racism."], ["After reading the post and comments I want to preface again how important this is every race has racists residing in them and they all come in different ways to be racists so yes sure Chinese racists can be this and Malay racists can be that still doesnt excuse racism as a whole.\nOk we got that out the way then my opinion in this incident is that these type of people should be reviewed and viraled online publically for any racists to finally change their views and learn from it.\nHowever I also want to say that just because this Chinese guy did this doesnt mean every Chinese person are like this. Because what he did or say the first few times are fine like \"Malays frequent this place\" or \"starbucks boycotting\" what ISNT OK is that he just flats out says something he doesnt like about Malays and say \"Malays like you lah\" really shows how little he has communicated or formed any deep friendships with any Malays in his time on a country literally named \"Malay\"sia."], ["This is why bumi rights are created", "Do we kill them with kindness instead?"], ["Is he a boomer generation?\nIMO, quite common among this generation.", "Yes.."], ["This type is typical uncle lah, but this one so atrocious in his racism. Malay ex muslim here, I think people that hate Malays and Islam have a history of hatred and bigotry themselves and perhaps even a superiority complex. I personally forgive those who have wronged me, even if I\u2019m denied my rights to leave the religion I have no hatred for you guys. I want to live my own life too. I think more people should be tolerant and empathetic to each other, you and me Indian or Chinese we are no different except than the classes and caste that the racist society has laid down upon us. I\u2019m not blaming all Malays here, I know there are many Malays that disagree with racism and special privileges. Malays that are secretly no longer faithful. Malays that are humanistic but also still believe in a higher power. I have no problem with humans preserving their humanity and sympathy for others. Please ppl, what our country need for change is for us to try and relate. See what\u2019s it\u2019s like to be in other people\u2019s shoes."], ["well, now you probably know why he isnt doing other work...a person of such EQ couldnt possibly be in any team based jobs"], ["Racist betul . Really unacceptable. Leave an honest feedback on this driver please"], ["wtf\nthose r rookie number,tell unker he got to pump more\nu sure he blue ic msian"], ["Woah, if we\u2019re behaving this way here, I can only image the true extent of the racial sentiment outside of the Reddit bubble which should be the paragon of progressivism.\nThe future outlook of this country grows gloomier by the day. To be honest, I think we deserve it."], ["As a grab driver, It's not that rare lol. I've heard so many remarks made by these dinasours. But I'm actually more hopeful with new gen chinese. They're more open minded, sincere and polite imo. Lots can actually converse well in malay."], ["Smlj joke he does. Don't bother about an idiot like him. Educate him like a little kid next time if you have d chance. What an ass"], ["Sorry you went through that. I experienced horrific racism myself - a foreigner who was there because Malaysian friends requested that I come, and signed me up to do something meaningful there.\nThis driver was very rude to me and then asked for 5 stars at the end of the journey. Since I apologetically refused, he became extremely verbally abusive, told me to go back to my country, telling me I expect unreasonable things from Malay people - that he is not rude, he is Malay - and that people from where I \u201cam from\u201d will go burn in hell because we are disgusting. I\u2019m also not actually from the region of the world that he assumed me to be from - most Malaysians love to visit my home country en masse, so it was a fair enough exchange for me to be there.\nI would have preferred your driver to be honest, but evidently, it comes from all groups."], ["Just say the same thing back to him about cina lah"], ["Race baiting this sub is hilariously easy.\nWho cares what some random cab driver thinks? Leave a review and move on. Also, you're a paying customer, tell the dude to stfu and put on some T.Swift.", "The whole journey OP couldn't say a word, but can come to reddit and say a lot lol. How about grow a pair and tell the taxi driver to shut it as a paying customer, berani kat leddit aje.", "said by the person who has been very vocal talking shit about B40s for the past few years\nWhy only berani on reddit"], ["He's wrong to make those comments. But I heard that Malaysian racism was fundamentally perpetrated by the unfair policies from the government. Malay people got all the benefits based on their race. If this doesn't change there's no way to deal with racism."], ["Racism is institutionalised, what can you do? Article 153 already proves inequality between people being okay in this country.\nYou lot like to remind us we are pendatangs and we need to go back where we come from, you leech from our hardwork, you don't appreciate us, and you slowly encroach and erode our rights slowly. You want us to not be racist?\nI feel bad for you but I don't feel surprised tbh, I can also name situations where I get abused too. But I don't make a big post here whining about something we see every 5 years.\nIn conclusion, you can't change something that's already acceptable here.", "Fucking based perspective but it's also regarded AF. By this reasoning we shouldn't try to progress but just lie down and accept it because it's here to stay? I see you have the courage to make a based take but no balls nor willingness to fight for change. Woe is us apparently.", "I see you have the courage to make a based take but no balls nor willingness to fight for change.\nLol I was one of those who marched on the streets and joined rallies for Bersih, I have friends who marched to the polling centres to become barricades to prevent them from tampering the ballots. I've argued with people and even my own family members, convincing them changw is required, I've done my part since long ago. So you don't get to tell me about fighting for change.", "Okay so then you make no sense with your statement. You went to the rallies and fought on the streets and here you are telling people essentially it is what it is? Are you just making based statements without thinking?", "here you are telling people essentially it is what it is?\nWell I'm telling you after fighting for change during my younger days, nothing has changed. Same shit, different packaging.\nIf we are sincere in eradication of social issues, it takes time and institutional enforcement with willpower to change things. And I can tell you as long as we have the same bunch of ppl ruling and wanting to maintain the status quo, it will never change.\nSo yeah, I think I wasted time doing what I did. Been there done that. I wished I got myself rich and left the country.", "Ah okay so because your experience has changed you have devalued your so called \"effort\", and what you did in the past is meaningless as you have changed your perspective to \"it will never change\". So there's no point in telling me I can't judge your balls, because you've already lost them in your journey to writing this back and forth. Either way it's a base statement but regarded reasoning. I see why you think the country won't change. Have a good day.", "Ah okay so because your experience has changed you have devalued your so called \"effort\", and what you did in the past is meaningless as you have changed your perspective to \"it will never change\".\nThings won't change because it takes more than just changing politicians and parties to fix the problem. We've changed several governments since 2018, tell me what had truly changed apart from pushing people further to the extremes of the political spectrum? Are we much closer to a better country now than before? No we aren't. The fact that there's still idiots trying to make moves to wrest back power is proof that it doesn't matter how people vote, they don't fucking respect your vote. All they care about is lining their pockets with money.\nSo there's no point in telling me I can't judge your balls, because you've already lost them in your journey to writing this back and forth.\nYou don't get to judge me because you're don't know me, heck I'm pretty sure I've done far more than you for the country than you ever did. Who do you think you are? You're a nobody, just a pathetic little prat who thinks he's someone who can make a splash lol. You'll realise it soon enough and I'm just going to say:\nI told you so.", "No I'm just someone who used logic to find the fallacy in your thinking and disconnect between making brash statements and action. You are so blind you can't even see the disconnect between your past and what you say. You're a hypocrite plain and simple, and any actions you've done for the country is mitigated by the statements you've made dismissing the efforts of others. Frankly, you have your head on straight, but have allowed your regarded reasoning to blind you. I'd expect a little more from someone with two braincells when a third party can see the flaw in your own perspective. Question is will you be able to look past your own ego?\nI can fully judge you because you lack conviction. You very may well have done more for this country, but with statements like that? I think my reasoning is more applicable.\nYou're kind of smart and have some balls. Don't be a regard.", "Putting a bunch of big words in a long-winded reply doesn't make you look smart or put your case any better. You've not made any point across that has any merit, and solely focused on attacking me as a person, what does that tell me? You've got nothing to stand on, and you can't refute my points at all.\nYou can't judge me because you've done fuck all, I've done more, my friends have done more, everyone has seen what \"change\" has done and we can tell you until there's a willingness to change from the top down and also removing certain privileges that certain groups will never agree with, you're stuck with the same problems over and over and over again.\nIt's not about conviction, it's just that me after decades of fighting and putting so much energy and effort to wanting a better country, finally realising that I am just one person, and unless the fucking Malays, Chinese, Indians, etc are all on the table and wanting change, you can kiss my ass about conviction or judgement because you have nothing to show about your own efforts, let alone your logic.\nDon't be a regard.\nSure, I won't be a regard to a retard. And take whatever is left of your two braincells and see your way out of this room.", "Okay nevermind I thought you had some intelligence. We won't ever agree and you'll just have to deal with the fact some retard online judged you, actually found inconsistency in your logic, and you wasted your time on the last day of 2023 arguing because... I don't know what you're trying to say really. As if your past actions absolves you from making stupid statements.\nHere's a new years resolution: pick up a dictionary. Can't blame other people when you don't understand words \ud83e\udd37"], ["Here we go again. Another race bait post. \ud83d\ude44"], ["Try to put yourself in his shoes on why he came to such politically incorrect behavior.\nLet's put it this way, the minorities also experiencing daily institutionalized racism that the majority thinks is fully justified. I personally experienced that a Nasi Lemak stall owner refused/or gave priority to her own kind while everyone is on the queue to place order, it was obvious that when it finally reach my turn she instead serving the next person in-line, I walked away, I don't know if it will be safe to eat.\nThat's how your elected Government wants it.\nEdit: I love my Malay and Indian friends, but that's how the institutionalized racism runs things here. Also, your skin complexion will determine who you are and your voting option, PAS, Bersatu, UMNO, MIC, MCA, Pejuang all require a specific type of skin color, there are a few others options, but for another topic."], ["i love malays", "i only got malay friends tho, maybe they can find me a cupboard to live in... like anne frank", "Not in this economy bruh ain't feeding another mouth.", "i love how this post is some chinese dude being racist to malay, then u malay dudes are doing the same where the love bro? one malaysia", "I am an equal opportunity hater. I am Malay, I hate Malays, and I hate other races also.", "I am an equal opportunity liker. I like everyone", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of Rule 1: Bigotry and hate speech. Because of our history Malaysia talks about certain issues such as race very differently from Western countries. We acknowledge this on the subreddit but do draw some boundaries to keep discussions healthy.\nDefinition of bigotry: The act of treating the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.\nBasic principle: If it's an attribute of a person that is out of their control and extremely hard or impossible to change, it's not nice to dump on them or their group just for that attribute.\nSome categories this applies to: Race, religion, sexuality, disability, national origin.\nSlurs: Use of slurs on the above categories is not encouraged on this subreddit and may be subject to warnings and bans.\nExample: Religion: It's okay to discuss and criticise aspects of the religion itself, but it's not okay to attack people because they are members of that religion (e.g.: Islam but not Muslims).\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks."], ["Maybe you are not a racist, but most of the people around you are."], ["Deep down we are all racist."], ["pancing jgn x pancing... kasi kelentong.. crowd mentality, sheep mentalty, human saikology.. kasi ja... hantam ha ha ha ha... ada chance.. baru natang beruk"], ["Tbh there isn't any racism undertones, but there are remarks made along the lines of racial stereotyping i can understand why OP feels uncomfortable, don't think it's necessary to do anything beyond brushing it off"], ["Dude. We are all racist to some degree.\nJust unlucky you met uncle who could keep quiet..\nDid you tell him directly you're uncomfortable and for him to just be quiet?"], ["Lol cina kena racism everyday never see we bark also. U go mamak as a cina see u kena or not..for us it is business as usual duh"], ["Damn so many racists here in these comments. Btw if u wanna race, lets do rally. More challenging \ud83d\udd25"], ["based uncle", "Bruhh \ud83d\udc80"], ["1st time?"], ["Literally nothing he said was racist against Malay, you are too sensitive bro and need a thicker skin"], ["I guess certain race mod tak tahan makan cili"], ["there is a reason why it becomes like this."], ["Use your special privilege to ask him back tongsan, chinese are minority am i right."], ["Adoiii do we live in your head rent free or what? \ud83e\udd23"], ["Maybe we should analyze what makes them that way."], ["Wait.. the op post getting down votes\ud83d\ude02"], ["Two sides of the same coin unfortunately"], ["I would have confronted him in the face. It\u2019s offensive to have this kind of racism thrown at your face.\nYou let it pass and he will never learn, the next customer will suffer."], ["pay no mind to it\nIt's a fact that stupid, racist, sexist, and selfish-aholes exist. We either act as a responsible member of society to do something about it, or just pay no mind to it if we can't do anything. Not worth thinking about them"], ["Just post out his phone number and personal details, he will receive the warning soon"], ["Tips: 1 star review can be remove, rmb make a 2 stars review for this shit"]]}
{"title": "Malaysia\u2019s key court cases in 2023: From Zahid\u2019s DNAA and Syed Saddiq\u2019s conviction, to vernacular schools and \u2018enticing women\u2019", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uxrgh/malaysias_key_court_cases_in_2023_from_zahids/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["Zahid's DNAA is clear case that Malaysia justice system going down the drain. That politicians in power can do whatever it takes to stay in power. They can use AG/ power of prosecution to turn black to white , turn guilty to innocent \ud83d\ude06"]]}
{"title": "How is every 10th car I see in cities a luxury brand, albeit entry level?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uwqxa/how_is_every_10th_car_i_see_in_cities_a_luxury/", "num_comment": 125, "flairlabel": [], "header": "I\u2019m curious about the number of luxury cars on the road. 1 in every 10 cars in the klang valley? I heard many can\u2019t really afford it. Is that true?\nI earn upwards of 20k a month but it\u2019s hard for me to imagine paying for instalments for say a 150k car and so I stuck with my first car through the years. I know business owners and upper management peeps who own them but they are either earning high 6 to low 9 figures annually.", "comments": [["Yes there's lots of rich people in KL. Truth be told though, a lot of those people are earning less than 20k a month but will still buy these cars as a status symbol. Rather look rich than actually be rich \u00af_(\u30c4)_/\u00af", "So true. My friend\u2019s dad runs a SME company and struggling to make a profit. Yet, he\u2019s going around in the new BMW 7 Series with a driver acting as if he\u2019s some hotshot CEO.\nFinancially he\u2019s in the shit and always owes the bank 3-6 months of car instalment, house instalment etc.", "3-6 months of car instalment, house instalment etc\nO___O\nAnd I get my stomach in knots if I forgot to pay my instalments by the first week of the month.", "Yeah my friend regularly finds me to rant/share his frustrations with his dad\u2019s lifestyle choices. The amount of letters that show up at his house from the bank is astounding. There was a point where the house was days from being auctioned off by the bank.\nHis dad used the house as a collateral for the company. That\u2019s no way to run a business.", "Right? I understand there is good debt in business but unsure how this type of situation is liveable", "if I forgot to pay my instalments by the first week\n2 sorts of people in life,\n-those who go to thailand on a fueltank with 1 bar left.\n-those who refuel at 3 bars when they head to their uncle, 2 towns away.", "Yeah status symbol and maruah. Stay in the slum but at least they know you have bnw/merc", "Biar papa asal bergaya, so they say.", "A car is an asset.. Worth the investment.. The bihher the better", "How is something that depreciates a good asset?", "Your forgot the /s"], ["Different priorities. You can even look around some low cost flats and spot a few BMWs and Mercs.\nAlso if a couple only needs 1 car, it may make sense to finance a nicer car together, even if they couldn't afford it individually.", "Actually I did the math and I did this - financed a nicer (but not extravagant) car with my wife, one that\u2019s more comfortable and safer for my family to travel in. For 2nd car (mostly short trips to lrt/mrt) we kept a 6yo fully paid off Myvi.", "That's the sweet spot for me. 1 nice car and 1 fully-paid car with cheap maintenance for short trips.", "Second hand BMW and Merc are actually fairly cheap as they're hard and expensive to repair. BUT if you're good with wrench, you can get it running right at reasonable cost. I've seen enough people that do this and I'm impressed.", "It really depends what you consider second hand, if you're talking about the previous generation, the high end ones are cheap sure but the entry level ones don't depreciate as fast. Pretty sure OP isn't talking about seeing 10-12 year old luxury cars on the road", "Or just swap a JZ engine and that r/kereta will run forever", "BUT if you're good with wrench, you can get it running right at reasonable cost.\nI categorically refuse to believe that.... Those mid-luxury cars are FULL of electronic systems that require the authorized-reseller connective tools, to re-calibrate all the systems after you alter anything.\nMinor controversy a few years back when you couldn't even change the battery without going through the adjustment. They walked it back, but the more complicated repair are definitely soft locked.\nUnless you mean 1995 BMW or older but...no one will think you're driving a luxury car if it's a 30yo stock model. That's the sort of thing I see only certain people do, thinking they impress, but mostly it's just sad.", "This is true. I've seen many expensive cars in PPRs that I've been to."], ["BMW and Mercedes have their own financing packages now - you're basically leasing the car for the 1st 3 years at a low monthly payment with the option to pay a lump sum at year 4 to own the car outright.\nCan't pay the lump sum or don't want to?\nNo problem, just switch to a new model and start a new 3 year cycle!\nThink the lowest payment is below 2k a month, which means if you're earning 6k or 7k, you could get one of these cars.\nNot advisable, of course! Tapi gaya mesti ada ..."], ["Some of them do sales or are agents. Insurance agents, property agents etc. (i heard) it helps them convey trust or reassurance to their clients rather than showing up in an old proton waja. Another reason is some of them may be car enthusiasts and like the handling a sporty BMW.\nWell some of my friends too get a used Merc / bmw. From 120k - 150k you can get a really good used 3 series / c class. Basically the psychology is \"why get a civic when for a little more i could get a 3yr old c class\"\nBut for those who do not require luxury cars, i find it a lil unnecessary to sink alot of cash into a depreciating asset. So yeah an ativa would do for me haha. That sums it up i guess", "Spending a little more to get a 2nd hand car makes sense. And on image, yes I do sometimes feel the pressure to own one in my circle as they are mostly execs and business owners and I\u2019m the odd one out.", "You could get a 2009 BMW 323i for around 24K during covid! Not sure how the prices are now. Generally, the expensive thing isn't the car, it's the maintenance and replacement parts.", "The Ativa is a great car for its price, runs and handles well too. Love the extra height."], ["You\u2019ll be surprised how cheap the second hand market can be for luxury cars nowadays depending on the year and brand as well. For example, 2016 BMW 330e is just over RM 60k, similar price for a 2016 Audi A3 just under RM 60k. Of course , have to factor in maintenance and running costs.", "Interesting, where do people normally go for 2nd hand cars?", "If you want some reassurance I\u2019d recommend looking at something like BMW Premium Selection since they\u2019re actually inspected by BMW dealers and have a one year warranty. Otherwise, there\u2019s always recond dealers (look for reputable ones and bring your own mechanic for inspection).", "Good place to get an idea of the price is carsome, mytukar as those are slightly on the higher side but at least they\u2019re consistent with pricing and comes with warranty.\nThen once you find a car you actually like, I recommend heading to Facebook and look in those specific car groups to get an idea of the direct owner selling price. Usually you get it around 5-7k cheaper or more from carsome price.", "Thanks for the tip I\u2019d love to have a great car. Will think of this when the time is right", "The 2016 330e has a lot of battery issues and is no longer covered by BMW's battery warranty that's why it's going for so cheap. A friend of mine has the 2016 330e version and the electric motor gave way, he couldn't even get it fixed by a third party and eventually had to fix it from BMW. It costed him about 23k.", "Wow EV r/kereta motor actually fails? Who wouldn\u2019t know \ud83d\ude33", "Here's a sneak peek of /r/kereta using the top posts of all time!\n#1: How much should I pay to a mechanic to check if a secondhand car is worth buying?\n#2: Just swapped the location of the MAF sensor. | 9 comments\n#3: What is your Impression/Opinion on Subaru Forester? | 9 comments\nI'm a bot, beep boop | Downvote to remove | Contact | Info | Opt-out | GitHub"], ["What we see with our naked eyes might not entirely reflect the truth or reality.", "What superpower I want: To have Superman laser eyes and everytime I look at a person, I can see their full financial status. And judge silently those influencers who bergaya on the outside, but actually very poor in reality.", "Sounds like you'd like to be Bullshit Man", "YES!!! But with Balance Sheet! So, I'll be the BS Man!", "Yes, this question was sparked by a Reddit comment I read. A friend of the Redditor was in finance and told them that many actually can\u2019t afford luxury cars they own. So I wanted to see if there is more insider knowledge around."], ["While there is a group of biar papa asal bergaya, there Is also a group whereby they earn really good money. Like you yourself earn 20k a month. If I were you, I would buy a nice car for myself also. I mean I have driving around in a proton so why not indulge abit when I'm earning 20k in a monthhhhhh", "IKR. Work hard earn lots of money but not spend, in the end when we die (early) all of it goes to our kids who fight among themselves for inheritance.", "Yeah save2 pun no point jugak. Indulge a little", "what wrong in proton? i earned 15k nett still using proton preve haha, good handling and have many modifications option lol", "Nothing is wrong with a proton but imo if I'm earning good money, I will upgrade my car", "If you really wanted to flex your 15k get an inspira lol. Preve susah oh tukar cvt", "CVT problem.\nFor Geely rebranded. It\u2019s a parts bin r/kereta"], ["Business owners or upper management peeps prolly driving company car. I think a lot of normies like us didn't realise that living a luxurious lifestyle out of our own pocket is kinda dumb. T20 peeps don't need to fork out their own cash for comfort and privileges, they got it for free.", "You\u2019re referring to T10 or T5. T20 in KL starts at RM16,640 HOUSEHOLD income.\nIf you\u2019ve been promoted to the point where you have a company car it\u2019s not really \u201cfor free\u201d\u2026", "Exactly this. People grossly generalizing the T20 as some luxurious elite are so mistaken. T20 is nothing nowadays, and even the T10 is easy to attain. The true elites are not on the spectrum as they aren\u2019t salaried and they\u2019re business owners or simply not reporting taxes and income themselves but via company or proxy.", "T20 has never been a luxurious lifestyle in any country, in most countries the narrative is of the 99% against the 1%, I have no idea who's bright idea it was to have the class divide be B40, M40 in T20 like all 3 groups don't have more in common with each other than the 1%.", "Probably the top 1%\u2019s idea \ud83d\ude2c", "Exactly. My friend who is a MD recently changed to a Range Rover because he prefers a SUV to drive his kids and parents around. The car is all paid for by his company. He also has a driver for personal matters like sending his kids to school, delivering documents and even getting groceries. The company also pays for their rent as the whole family needs to relocate from another state to KL.\nEven my bf drives a company car and his boss is hinting that they will be upgrading his car to a better model in 2024."], ["I have been analyzing this phenomenon for a long time.\nHere's another factor no one has mentioned. You're approaching this from the total cost angle. There's another angle to take: monthly payment and cashflow.\nThe truth is cars are expensive and not affordable in Malaysia, even myvi is not cheap. That is why we take out loans and focus on the affordability of monthly payments. Because otherwise most of us can't even afford myvi or City.\nIt's just like housing. Most of us have to take out a home loan to afford buying a house.\nSince we're focusing on monthly payment. Is it really that big of a difference between 800 and 1500 per month? How about you stretch out the tenure? You'll be able enjoy nicer things NOW.\nThat said, there are definitely some people who can afford to buy these cars with cash.", "I feel that even with monthly payments it\u2019s quite expensive to devote any more than 10% for a swankier vehicle. Unless of course it generates more income like those who need it for image.", "I don't disagree with you. Heck I feel Axia is expensive. 30 plus k one year loan is 2 to 3k plus installment per month. That's crazy.", "Another thing to consider is that a car doesn\u2019t immediately lose all its value immediately. It might seem obvious since everyone knows about depreciation, but until recently I noticed I was thinking of car ownership cost as (sticker price + depreciation) when it really is just (depreciation) alone. When you buy a new 330i for 320k today, you don\u2019t pay 320k, you pay the monthly installment and initial down payment, then when you sell the car off you get some residual value towards your new car."], ["1/10 is 10% if you account that it\u2019s KL, then maybe they\u2019re like 1%, so.. about right? Anyway you do often see some entry ones, but seeing a 7 series or sports car on the road is normally quite rare even in kl"], ["", "I earn upwards of 20k a month", "Just your typical reddit/lowyat person I guess lol. I might as well post why is every 5th person on malaysian reddit seem to earn more than 10k/month.", "Kesian right. Make a setori just to say they earn 20k:26563:"], ["In the KV, a lot of people are either of high income, or work in jobs that entail long hours on the road and require one to project a certain outward image of \"success\", like sales and marketing. Also maintenance and support services are more easily available compared to outside KV. So a combination of push and pull factors are at play here. So that's why you are more likely to see more exotics or harder-to-maintain 2nd hand luxury makes in KV. Biar papa asal gaya."], ["You can afford a 150k car. Why not? What's stopping you? What's your relationship with money? Try reading The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel.\n\"If you only wished to be happy, this could be easily accomplished; but we wish to be happier than other people, and this is always difficult, for we believe others to be happier than they are.\u201d - Montesquieu\nShared by Morgan Housel.", "Will look it up, I suppose my relationship could be defined by upbringing as I wasn\u2019t from a very rich family. Growing up my parents would boycott a stall/food for 20 years due to price increase sometimes and use the same car for 20 years and that made them affluent.", "Nothing wrong with using the same car for 20 years - if it doesn't impact what you want to achieve in your life. Just because you can afford nice things doesn't mean that you have to. But enjoy life a little. No harm in buying a nice car if you can afford it (i.e. you can still sleep well at night if the economy goes to shit). Anyway, this is more personal finance stuff.\nAnd yes, it is crazy how Malaysians are buying luxury cars and queueing up at luxury stores. It makes me wonder - are times really tough? Doesn't seem like it. But it's also confirmation bias - a psychology bias.\nWe tend to look out for things we pay attention to. People have the \"need\" to show off their wealth in cities. The games played in urban living are different. Status games. Whoever has the biggest house or car wins the status game. If you're not playing the same game, don't bother."], ["For the sake of brevity we\u2019ll only look at financial situation of the individual and forego the reason of purchase. I think generally these purchasers can be categorised as below:\n1) people who have low disposable income but stretches for it.\n2) people on company\u2019s dime. Obviously if your company gives you a certain budget for your car you\u2019ll want to maximise the value.\n3) people who have high disposable income but spends almost every dime (in my very limited exposure I\u2019ve seen a lot of people in this category).\n4) people who can actually afford it, which means they have the full cash for it (whether they pay in cash or takes a loan is immaterial) & this does not affect their current lifestyle at all. In terms of percentage this group is ridiculously small, probably top 1% income earners (note, not net worth, net worth means nothing if you can\u2019t generate enough income for your expenses).\nAnd here\u2019s how you get 1 luxury vehicle in every 10 cars on the road \ud83d\ude2c", "This also puts it in an interesting perspective. If only 1% can afford it and 10% of cars are luxury, it means that only 10% of the car owners we see can truly afford it. Of course some people brought up the 2nd hand market which could make the percentage higher, so it will be interesting to know how much % of luxury cars in Malaysia are bought secondhand."], ["Let me tell you this.\nIf you start to find a particular car type or colour, that car will start to pop up more frequently in your view.\nWhat car on the road is irrelevant. There are luxury cars driven by bankrupt owners. Irrelevant."], ["Op stated earning rm20k monthly but still doesn't know how to use excel at an executive level.\nAlso, if you earn rm20k per month, you should know how easy it is to pay for a rm150k.\nHigh level sus bro."], ["Yeah earning 20K a month wouldn't give you much options for new luxury vehicles except the entry level ones. Since if you do the basic calc of monthly salary\u00d712=value of the car you can afford, you'd only be able to get a C segment at best, unless you buy 2nd hand\nAnyways to answer your ques, there's a lot of business people in KL (Business owners, insurance agents and ofc now the forex/crypto traders) so it's a status symbol for them more than anything"], ["cheap fuel. we talk later when petrol is 3.50 a liter in 3rd quater next year.", "As in they have better fuel efficiency? I\u2019m not good with cars", "fuel efficiency can only carry you up to a point. You never going to beat someone driving bezza or myvi in mileage. 60 ringgit now can get you a full tank in bezza. This would be 100++ when fuel no longer subsidized. People paying 100 plus for a full tank would be paying 200 plus when the changes comes. This people is going to wrecked by fuel prices."], ["Yeah, 10% luxury car in KV is about right. I expected more tbh. Esp those lower income ones are either taking bus or rides motorcycles.\nI strongly believe Malaysia has a bimodal wealth distribution. Those who are working class and those who are SME owners/RE agents etc."], ["What job you're doing man? Hope I get one too.\nAnyway seriously, I know some people who earn around 7-8k and still get a luxury car. They go into debt and borrow around all the time. All cause they just wanna show off. Not to mention they don't have to pay rent cause living with parents, don't have to pay for food cause living with parents and so on. New phone, great car, pretty girlfriend, all sorts of branded stuff. Bank empty and friends hate em cause they haven't returned the money yet. Modern living on the edge style.", "See this is why I\u2019m very puzzled. I went through a lot to get where I am but every time I go out on the road, I asked myself is every 10 person earning 50k/mo. I\u2019m in upper management in an mnc currently but it was been a hard few years. Lost my job twice in startups due to closing shop", "Some people might not need to pay for housing so that 1-2k rent put straight into car, just like how you see those multimillion dollar houses but cars inside only 1st gen vios and myvi."], ["biar papa asalkan bergaya kan \ud83e\udee0\ud83e\udee0\ud83e\udee0"], ["True, I realised KL has more luxury cars than most advanced European cities, I guess probably they couldn't be bothered due to the parking situation unlike here, we've got dedicated parking lots in condos and landed housing, and -1 generation germans are not that expensive and maintenance is considerably cheap if you know the right places.", "Most European cities have way more narrow roads than us I think, which is why hatchbacks are the way there. Compare that to USA where even 200hp cars with 6s 0-60mph times are considered slow lol", "I visited KL recently and was shocked at the amount of LV bags I saw at malls. When I was living in the US I never see such things at all too."], ["I mean it really depends on your circle. My friends are mostly investment bankers, doctors, lawyers and they all drive expensive cars. And I know CEOs have their car all paid for by their company with personal driver.\nI also stay in MK so I see a lot of BMW and Mercedes in this area. Recently I saw a guy sent their kid to school in an Aston Martin.\nEven someone who earns less than half of your salary might be thinking of getting an entry level BMW. It\u2019s all depends on their priorities.", "My friends are mostly investment bankers, doctors, lawyers and they all drive expensive cars. And I know CEOs have their car all paid for by their company with personal driver.\nMy man. What car do you drive ? You are probably the T1 percent in this sub.", "There's a lot of us T5-10's lurking in the sub, T1 is a bit of a stretch though. Also side note, just cause a car is expensive doesn't mean it's necessarily comfortable. I've had my fair share of sitting in mid to high 6 figure cars and some of them are quite uncomfortable due to their suspension systems etc.", "Sadly I\u2019m not considered as T5-T10. Also yeah it depends on the car type.\nYou buy hyper car or super r/kereta the suspension definitely not on S class/Rolls Royce/ Maybach level.\nMy w140 ride comfort is something I love on a highway compared to GT86", "Well MK of all places I understand - or basically every private school in the country"], ["it's mostly 2nd hand"], ["Are you the same guy that made the post about why there are so many rich people in TRX?"], ["Darn maybe GLCs are the way to go. I do have friends in semi-GLCs if ya know what I mean earning what you mentioned. I believe I can afford it but the opportunity cost is hard to stomach"], ["OP earns 20+k a month but can't imagine paying instalment for a 150k car? Oh, I seeeee.....\nDo you have 4 wives and 20 children to feed?", "Nope but I have until recently a student loan in usd. I\u2019ll admit it wasn\u2019t a good move to settle down here after studying overseas"], ["What level do you have to be at to earn 20k a month? Senior management?"], ["Diff people have diff priorities.\nI stayed in a fully paid 5million house with a 150K car & a 15yrs old mazda. I am not really a car guy, I probably drive until it cannot be fix lol\nSomeone I know drive a new BMW X6 with a 1mil house on loan.\nor a couple with 5K income each drive a vellfire stayed in a 400k house.\nThen there someone, drive a camry, he is a factory owner."], ["I mentioned this in another thread. There is a mindset where people ignore the logic of things and get the most expensive car to show they are well off.... Behind the curtains they might be nose deep in debt. Don't you wonder why credit card offer credit transfer?\nBut admittedly, Some are actually rich as f."], ["Better be talking 20k USD per month otherwise that's barely middle class", "I\u2019d say not even middle class when it compares to US/Europe/UK. Junior exec for professionals like engineers lawyers etc. The ringgit is going to the dogs"], ["I guess the OP meant brand new cars? In general, luxury brands can be kept for over 10yrs with the right upkeep and maintenance. Hence, there bound to be people buying second hand luxury brand cars (I'm one of them!)", "I was asking in general, but yes I missed out the second hand market as a major contributor. Not going to lie, I\u2019m human too and do sometimes go \u201cwow that merc looks rad\u201d and wish I could drive something like that. Mind sharing where you get 2nd hand deals and your rules of thumb? How has maintenance been?", "The trick is to look for cars that are 3-5 years old. That's when the depreciation hit the hardest. For example, a BMW 330i back in 2019 was 330k brand new, today you can get it for around 190k.\nI just ordered a fully specced 2019 718 Cayman GTS for 480k, which would've costed around RM800k when brand new.\nAs for maintenence, as long as you stay within the entry level models and know a good mechanic, they're pretty affordable.\nFor example, a C200 service at the service center will cost you about RM2k, whereas at an independent work shop it'll be around RM800.\nContrary to popular belief, as long as you maintain the car well and on time, Merc and Beemers are pretty reliable. Never had issues with mine.", "Thanks for the tip! Maybe I\u2019ll revisit this end of 2024", "You can always shoot me a DM if you need advice looking for a car \ud83d\ude04", "Well Porsche is on the reliable side when it comes to exotic. (if well maintained)\nBut I still personally prefer to stick to JP car as they are generally more reliable & way cheaper parts.", "In the end of the day it's just a car. Just drive whatever that makes you happy."], ["My sister earns 23k a month and is driving a 10 year old Honda jazz. My cousins family that both earns a combined 10k blew their savings on a used Vellfire because someone called them poor. Materialism is strong in Malaysia, but its probably because of how judgemental and critical everyone is.", "There are better cars to buy than to blow their money on a Vellfire."], ["Some are from wealthy families, some have the financial capability, some are mlm/insurance/property trying to lure people to join them."], ["Hey OP, I'm in the same boat as you, worked hard to get to the same figures and realised it ain't shit, maybe a camry. Still driving my 14 year old camry, find car expenses not worth it at all. Did some calculation and feel that at 40k is when you can comfortably drive a luxury car + maintenance, depreciation and all the jazz. Anyone who disagrees is the AhBeng that drives luxury but eat maggi mee, all face and no brain.", "Exactly my sentiments. I feel that we barely earn what junior engineers earn in Europe/US/UK."], ["You gotta go out of KL buddy. And not as tourist my mingle with them. KL isn\u2019t a representative of what the whole of Malaysia looks like. True Malaysians living the Malaysia dream are those out of the city.", "Malaysian dream? What\u2019s that like?", "Eating maggi mee until the next paycheck after splurging on expensive items", "The context of my question was limited to cities. Not Malaysia in general.", "Dude if you go to kota bharu, it's just like KL in terms of luxury car ratio. Ok maybe a little less but it's mind boggling also given the background of small town.", "Lol in Kuching it's all Land Cruisers, , Veilfires pickups and Mercs. Most of them are >150k too"], ["Luxury cars are getting cheaper to own but ofc the caveat is that they are cheaper because they are used. For instance, a 2022 BMW 7 series retailed for around 600k to 700k but now when you check their premium selection site, you can get one for around 400k. The depreciation is mad for those and better yet, the gurantee given by BMW themselves makes it a better deal. Cars that are priced at rm2++k drop to sometimes less than 100k or just above so easier to own but remember the achillies heel of all these luxury cars (bar maybe only Lexus) is that the maintenance cost is gonna eat into your income a lot."], ["Second hand car , vehicle has been mortgaged / stolen, it is the new meta now"], ["What do you do for a living?"], ["Real car enthusiast countries don't buy base models. M, S and R stickers are for suckers. You know what's up when N line from Hyundai isn't available in Malaysia but there is an N trim. \ud83e\udd37\u200d\u2642\ufe0f\ud83d\ude05", "Feels bad mang. We used to get high end r/kereta trim but now even the new Camry reuses engine."], ["Beemer and masidi aren\u2019t THAT luxurious of a brand that you need more than 20k a month to own.\nThe entry models you see berlambak on the road are tin kosong models, much less equipped than the Japanese counterparts (i.e a top spec Accord/Camry/Mazda6 has so much more features and is better quality than the entry level big 3 German cars).\nYou\u2019re doing the right thing by not YOLOing into a car for the sake of superfluous status though. But at the same time there exists people that prefers a nice car over a big savings account. Different strokes for different folks."], ["there are many who earn 1m or even 2m/month, what not so common are billionaires"], ["Some are probably working at a high position, where the car is provided for him or her by the company. But there are a lot of wealthy people as well. Of course there are people who live above their means as well. So ya, it is pretty hard to gauge what is what."], ["Just so you know, many people finance those cars are 60-70% only. Most likely they sold their old valued cars and top up some cash. Monthly instalment for them could be as low as 1.5k-1.8k. Just like a honda civic. And when they sold their old car, can transfer NCD for insurance at 55%, save cost some more.\nIf you want one of those, you got to start somewhere i guess, if you're interested in cars then why not?"], ["second hand , sambung bayar, company benefit, clearance discount\nfor example 1k car benefit then you top up 2k, do that with clearance discount and you can get a BMW easily"], ["The wealth in the country is more concentrated in the Klang Valley, so it's only natural that you'll see more luxury marques.\nAnyways, I was indirectly involved in the marketing of a luxury car brand at some point in my career a number of years ago. The personal monthly income level they targeted for their prospective buyers started as low as RM6k+, because there's supposed to be a market of young, up-and-coming people in the workforce who will live by the skin of their teeth and max out their DSR on a 9-year loan just for the sake of a nicer car. It feels almost predatory, but our financial system permits it."], ["For me as an engineer, I don\u2019t really need face so I\u2019m going to buy a new Axia Rahmah E r/kereta as a beater. I already have a highway cruiser w140 with a spirited driving GT86 anyway lolz"], ["low 9 figures? 100million?\n100million i wouldnt be buying a entry level luxury brand..."]]}
{"title": "Genuine Question: Why restaurants like these suddenly appear all over Malaysia?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18u5fo3/genuine_question_why_restaurants_like_these/", "num_comment": 156, "flairlabel": ["Food"], "header": "", "comments": [["Just like how the boba tea was the crazed a few years ago and many stores keep popping up.\nThis time it's these type lo, in mainland China, they're very easy to dapao, pack and eat during rush hours. Convenient food.", "To add on, boba tea craze has transform itself into \u65b0\u8336\u996e(new tea drink -direct translated). basically it has 3 distinctive features - premium ingredients, digitalisation & tech, & branding. Nowadays you can see tealive tryna re-position itself and convert to more tealive+ stores. However I\u2019m not sure if it can actually beat mixue & chagee/beutea\nTl;dr mid range bubble tea business is quite fucked", "Mixue / chagee is meta nowadays. Still remembered when bubble tea first started, bubble tea stores were more packed than a club on a weekend lol!", "If the meta = using creamer for milk tea I rather not drinking.", "can other boba tea shops even compete with Mixue being around? They offer the same stuff (it's just milk tea + mass produced boba lmao how different can it be) for way cheaper that I sometimes wonder do the franchisee really make any profit, or I've been overestimating just how much the raw materials cost for these things", "Mixue tastes heavily processed. Cant stand it. Their soft serve taste like sweet shaving cream to me - processed taste. Just max 3 licks & decided its not for me.\nChagee,heytea, gongcha, koi .. got natural taste.", "Mixue = creamer. They don't use real milk. How different can it be? Day and night.\nEven their ice cream is not milk. It's too artificial for me to eat it."], ["Mostly established by Chinese nationals from China; competition in China is tough; some may not have a chance to create or earn a respectable living in China, so they relocate to Malaysia for Business.\nThere will be some loopholes as well, as some of them wanted to diversify their investment and money, and as we all know, China is quite rigorous about money flowing out, leaving them no alternative but to establish businesses outside of China.", "Also monopoly of targeted Chinese market share.", "With such a large population, anything they do would be perceived as monopolistic; after all, the country took 50 years to attain its current state. Their mindset at this age is still to advocate for a better lifestyle and living conditions. Whereas in other developed nations, the mentality is long gone, and people increasingly seek work-life balance and a sense of purpose in life.\nWith a population of 1.3 billion or 1.4 billion people, moving from poverty to middle class is a highly difficult challenge.\nUpcoming Nation might be India which population surpass China.", "Considering how said mentality us still prevalent in easern countries(japan korea singapore), i doubt its a chinese only issue", "This is the only correct answer. What cannot be sold in China goes to malaysia. Malaysia has always been trashbin for anything can't sold in China.", "Meh, Malaysia is pretty much trashbin for anything else people don't want elsewhere. Those garbage exporters still making business as far as I know.", "Is it even worth it\u2026most of my chinese office mates prefer local Chinese or hong kong/taiwan food and obviously this is not targeted towards the majority muslim population. Can they survive?", "Personally, I prefer Hong Kong and Taiwanese cuisine. My Generation Z friend, on the other hand, adores Chinese cuisine. But I'll still eat but not preferable because their food is strong in flavor, oily, and spicy, and I prefer sambal lol.", "They can. This is just \u9810\u5236\u83dc. The safety standard and taste is far from freshly cooked meal. Even China themselves don't want to eat it."], ["This is basically Zhap Fan, aka Chinese Nasi Campur. Chinese people loves Nasi Campur, but the formula is almost always the same.\nI think one franchise was brought in and it became an instant hit with the locals. And because Chinese businessmen being Chinese businessmen, they like to tap on the market ASAP, earn the big money while it's still hot.\nThey should import/make a halal version while they are at it, because halal sells... A LOT.", "Cannot simply call yourself halal nowadays. Can easily backfire.", "Their target audience are usually mainland Chinese", "as a non chinese i wonder how malaysian chinese feel about mainland chinese in malaysia", "I don't give a shit about them unless they act up", "Not gonna lie, most of it is expensive.", "very hard to obtain the halal symbol. not ez to do", "Is it similar to pop meals?"], ["Because of the influence of China.\nIf you go Pasar Malam, many stalls are selling China street food as well.", "China street food example? I go to a Chinese pasar malam. The new thing I saw recently was some Taiwanese pinwheel pancake. Was nice but definitely foreign influence.", "The entire Nyomya cuisine is \u201cChinese influenced\u201d, among other things. Foreign influence has been floating around for ages all over SEAsia", "You see the burst of god damn stinky tofu ? That\u2019s Chinese influence.", "Stinky tofu has been around for ages though. I remember stinky tofu at my local pasar malam 15+ years ago. Plus would you call that Chinese influence? Stinky tofu for me is more of taiwanese influence than Chinese.", "You are right. Stinky toufu is more Taiwan than China. It's everywhere in Taiwan night market.", "Stinky toufu is Taiwan if you every been to Taiwan you will see stinky rough everywhere.", "So are China , I heard news last time China use actual shit to make their stinky tofu", "The pasar malam in Taman Connaught, Kuala Lumpur is full of china foods now, and it's so expensive. Back then we eat at pasarmalam bc we r broke, now only the rich will eat at pasarmalam..", "I nearly laughed sadly at this. So sad but true.", "Its been long i haven't come to Taman Connaught pasar malam."], ["kinda strange to hear that this is also happening in Malaysia too\n(Similar thing also happening in Thailand)\nthese restaurants are mostly run by Chinese nationals", "They learnt a thing or two from Thailand. If China was to be a powerhouse they\u2019ll need soft power too. And that soft power is in the form of food diplomacy. And it\u2019s kinda working", "I think it's desperate move rather than attempt to gain soft power. Read the \u9810\u88fd\u83dc scandal recently in China."], ["Some are shell companies/restaurants for Chinese nationals to get their family out of china.\nSetup f&b business, say you need someone to manage the business, send your family member over to manage the business.\nRinse and repeat. If they make a business out of it, great. If not, at least can get out of the country and take some money out as well", "Source: trust me bro", "It's not even a wild guess. Why do you think Chinese nationals are spreading their wealth to Australia,Canada and Singapore nowadays?", "In case things turn to shit in china they can escape to those countries", "Because rich Chinese ppl like buying nice fancy new things. Same like how rich Indian/ Middle Eastern/ insert random nationality do the same", "Many Chinese national \u6da6 to many countries, mihoyo setup another office in Montreal in case shit goes bad for gaming in China", "You don't understand the CCP very well...", "Ah, the local CCP expert have arrived.", "I\u2019m sure you u/arbiter12 our resident CCP armchair expert knows better", "China restrict their people from going out of the country?", "More like they restrict capital outflow.", "China restrict their people\u2019s money from going out of the country"], ["To add on. Some of these stores won\u2019t breakeven. Probably tastes mediocre or normal at best.\nThey are for the Chinese to wash $; these losses etc allow them to move funds legally out of China."], ["F&B business is one of the riskiest things you can invest in so people tend to jump onto one fad to another to follow the crowd. From bubble tea shops, to fried stuff and finally to this", ":26554:What could be greater risk than competing with a population of 1.4 billion people?\nAny second, you'll be replaced by someone fresh. :26558:"], ["Cause it\u2019s been proven time to time where mainland china food suits majority of chinese malaysian palettes. ie: any mala hotpot, sour fish, smelly snail noodle. By the growth of these restaurants and human traffic patronising it, I think it gives confident to f&b owner/investor, just copy paste the shit from china and it will be a hit.", "I wonder if they would make it halal. I would so would love to try it", "It\u2019s expensive to make it halal when the food itself is already quite cheap.", "I mean making it halal attracts more customers which can offset and even give more profit", "Also mean less chinese will go to you", "Doesn't matter since the food now targets potentially 60% of Malaysia population, more profit to be made", "Issue with making some food halal is that, not every ingredient is halal, example they\u2019re using some proprietary or their preferred brand of soy sauce or mala sauce, which is sourced from China, which don\u2019t have halal certification.\nSo they can\u2019t get halal here.\nTo make something halal, they\u2019ll need to restructure their entire logistic and sourcing, which does not make sense for tiny profit margins.", "Yea. Halal dimsum was a hit and the owner even got datukship from that.", "I\u2019ve seen quite a few Hui Chinese (Mainland Muslim Chinese) restaurants around Setapak in Danau Kota, you could check those out. I remember seeing a few Uyghur ones elsewhere in Setapak too, can\u2019t remember exactly where though.\nNot sure if they have Halal certification but should be since I regularly see other Malays eating there", "If you want those halal China food, you can probably just eat the mee hiris thingy?\nYou can get an idea of it", "I am still not used to it. Also feel like the dishes are monotonic.", "\"human traffic\" can't mention China Chinese cuisine without it"], ["Personal experience: So I have been traveling around southern and middle part of Semenanjung and I see these restaurants in a lot of places. The food is decent but overpriced (since I can eat a way better meal with more meat/seafood at other restaurant with the same amount of money).\nI am wondering whether they all belong to the same tauke \ud83e\udd14", "It's basically expensive chap fan.", "It's basically expensive chap fan.\nTechnically Truth, In my opinion is more cater for family size \"Chap Fan\" rather than individual.", "It\u2019s really expensive but for China nationals this is more to their preferred taste over Malaysian Chinese food. Although I\u2019m Chinese but I don\u2019t really like a lot of China\u2019s cuisine.", "You are not alone, I\u2019m fujian Chinese and I prefer Malaysian hokkien food more than fujian hokkien food more \ud83d\ude02 Curry Mee is really good then you have Nasi Kerabu (Malay), and nyonya cuisine. All these are just very good", "Interesting", "I'm just curious, where are you from? If you're from Penang island I'm surprised it hasn't arrived there, since these states have the highest Malaysian Chinese concentration so the PRC will import to these places first. Especially the cina cina type, they're very attuned to what's hot in China and will quickly latch onto anything exported over.\nFor this style of serving, I'd say it's very common in China, packed exactly how delivery food looks like. In fact at first I thought you were posting something from China."], ["Many Chinese people \u6da6(run) from China, in Singapore the Chinatown literally just all Szechuan stuff \ud83d\ude05 I can\u2019t even find other fujian hokkien restaurants"], ["Because teenagers these days be scrolling DouYin and watching lame ass China content, China food has been growing in influence. Only thing they offer is cheap, not any tastier, quality is also not there (taste and presentation vary quite noticeably from branch to branch).", "\"Cheap\" what's the point with insulting somebody else's cuisine", "Cheap as in price bro. The only insult in there is the lame ass China content. Brooo \ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02", "Cheap, hell no. People are saying it is pricy. The price is around 20 more or less. Not the biggest fan but if that's cheap. You must be joking. \"Lame ass China content\" projecting much, never knew posting food content and influencing others to try = lame ass content. Aren't they doing what others have been doing for ages."], ["Hate to say this but take your own risk for eating in this kind of restaurant. There are actually no cooks. All of them are just staff that trained to heat up food.\nIf you know chinese, you can look up on \u201c\u9884\u5236\u83dc\u201d to learn more about it, but in short, it's basically pre-cooked food that is then chilled and ready to be eaten once reheated. The food can last around a year before it goes baf"], ["Obviously businessman coming from china n Taiwan, they have to expand their business"], ["Franchise expansion, said business is probably dwindling in China so they opted for oversea expansion. Malaysia is one of the prime location because of many china citizen staying in Malaysia for various reasons", "Yup, the revival of MM2H program."], ["The influence of China is huge on Chinese teenagers and even young adults here in Malaysia. The Chinese TikTok app (douyin) and another social media called \u2018\u5c0f\u7ea2\u4e66\u2019 has too much influence on people here. Also, a lot of young kids on that app post very stupid stuff and embarrass our country\u2019s name. As the app is only intended to be used by China residents, a lot of Malaysian videos on that platform that reaches the China residents\u2019 feeds have comments filled with explaining what Malaysian Chinese is because most people think that Malaysia only has Malay people. The only reason I see as to why officials of the Chinese apps are not banning access to the app from outside countries, is to collect data and info on us, as is in their own country as well to gain a better control and power over the world.\nMalaysian Chinese love these kinds of stores because they are usually cheap (due to cheap ingredients that are mostly made from chemicals) and taste good because of the absurd amount of sodium and fats present in their food.\nUsually these stores are loved by lalazai and lalamuis those materialistic(which is also gotten from Chinese culture) kids wearing \u2018adlv\u2019 or \u2018I don\u2019t smoke shirts\u2019 with their dyed hair and anything they put on or buy to make them look rich", "Cheap ingredients made from chemical? Proof that happens in Malaysia?", "Im not sure about this restaurant but have u tried MiXue? Yeah just tasting it you know it\u2019s chemicals, even the air conditioner smell has a very concentrated chemical smell", "Only RM2.90 for a lemon drink, hella confirmed it's made of chemicals."], ["Mamak can't always rule the night, the chinese gotta keep up", "These are not local Chinese though", "And you think all mamaks are locals?\nI've got a bridge I'd like to sell to you bud."], ["rise of china influence in tiktok and xhs. personally i hated it. might as well eat mixed rice"], ["Basically chapfan with more bowl to wash"], ["A loophole in our law to get citizenship, establish a business here and they will be able to move here"], ["Non-Malaysian here but my guess would be that these are made by either Chinese nationals trying to have diverse income source or maybe Chinese Malaysians (?) ?"], ["Whenever I see this, it reminds me of a video about how chinese chef is able to recreate savoury pork bone soup from a whole bunch of artificial seasoning, without a single piece of bone or meat, and this give me the same vibe. Like how does one serve hot chinese or any asian meal, in fast food style?", "It is indeed, that\u2019s why I don\u2019t really like trying different food in China especially northern and central. I usually do lots of research before choosing the restaurant to go", "agreed\nsomehow I'd prefer Indian, Malay or whatever (I'm local Chinese)\nbut\nI'm kinda bored on Chinese food tbh", "Shichuan cuisine fatique. I have that too. Everything tastes salty, mala spicy, and oily", "yeap indeed"], ["I have a theory that One condition for China to invest in Malaysia we also have accept them to open business here also so that Chinese China don't be ackward when come here when looking for food", "If you're referring to Anwar's recent visit to China, it is not the case. These China restaurants have been popping way longer before the COVID years.\nIt's a natural phenomena - the more people from one country starts coming over to live whether for business, work, or study, the more likely F&B from that country pops up. If you know where UCSI is, you'd know that there's a Nigerian restaurant nearby because there are many Nigerian students there. Same natural phenomena for Malaysian restaurants overseas, you can find them in London and Australia (not sure which city)."], ["Low creativity. Just copy paste everything from China and prays it works. Just fed up of all China copycat. Where is the OG?"], ["The type of Restaurants where the owner are most probably from mainland China? Since the sanction from USA and big businesses all around the world are in the process of decoupling (pulling out their factories and stores from China), China's economy is now in shambles. It matters a lot when you have to feed a whole country of billions of people that suddenly out of jobs.\nLong story short, they are looking business elsewhere from mainland to survive. Since Malaysia has close ties with China, and it has existing Chinese living in it, it would be an ideal market. Same with Thailand and Vietnam.", "no bruh US is not sanctioning China like this.", "That's not what they're saying, look past the word sanction and focus on the word decoupling.\nChina has the so-called three horse carts that drive their economy: exports, investments, internal consumer spending\nExports: Due to the decoupling efforts led by USA (but tbh they shot themselves in the foot with the insane COVID lockdowns, as Atrioc would put it xjp is scaring the hoes, they're having issues with capital flowing out of the country on an immense scale at the moment) their exports are weakening.\nThere has always been limited investment opportunities in china due to the corruption and inconsistent authoritarian iron fist of the CCP, and for a long time real estate was the only option to invest in, and now that's in shambles, and all there's left in investment is the government itself investing in bad infrastructure projects. Those investments are not driving the economy effectively.\nInternal consumer spending: they're on a deflationary spiral at the moment with extremely high youth unemployment (they stopped publishing the numbers a couple months ago even). Households are also riddled with debt (tied to their real estate bubble burst). No one's gonna spend or take up new debt\nIf you speak Chinese and follow/keep up with financial/economy related news and online content/sentiment, you'll see a very prominently negative outlook on the future of the country amongst China's populace. It's not just big money and business moving out of the country; anyone who can afford it are advised to leave the country too to seek greener pastures elsewhere. Apparently a lot of them are going to USA, Japan, Australia, Singapore, and Malaysia"], ["Trending XHS Duo ying China pop\nIs expensive and not delicious \ud83d\ude13"], ["Due to the increasing amount of China Chinese study abroad here"], ["I live in Canada and shops in our malls are closing, just to be replaced by these stores selling cheap knock-off clothing."], ["If you pay attention to news and global economy you will know China is pushing pre made meal now to cut cost. All those unsold food can sell to Malaysia. Malaysia is pretty much dump for anything that can't sell in China."], ["Same like boba shops and yogurt drinks shops, it\u2019s a trend"], ["wonder how many of these will flop.", "With the amount of poor quality chap fan store these days still existing, I don't think so unless they drastically raised their prices"], ["Genuine question also: what do you mean by \u2018these restaurants\u2019?\nFor context, im a Malay who likes noodles and most of chinese food lol", "It is just like mixed rice but the dishes are pre-plated. You take the dish from the table just like you do with mixed rice. The price is cheaper than ordering freshly cooked so it feels like it is affordable.\nIf you go as a couple, each one takes 2 dishes suddenly you get 4 dishes to be shared.\nA typical Chinese restaurant will charge RM10++ for a vegetable dish. Rm15-20++ for a small meat dish."], ["Like every other F&B trend in Malaysia: someone became a supplier, and convinced a bunch of people to open up shop, buying their supplies from them. Hence, many of them have the exact same materials/style."], ["humanity has aged like fine wine, the more futuristic, the more they're fked."], ["chinese culture invation"], ["Decent taste, decent price, open to the wee hours, clean premises and have you seen the quality of the chap fan stalls these days. They have been taking advantage of the poor quality of chap Fan stalls and kept opening more location"], ["The store looked interesting then I remembered I\u2019m Malay and that ain\u2019t a halal place"], ["Where the Bin Chi Ling?", "somewhere near Bin La Den"], ["Oh this, these places tend to be overpriced af, but it has that allure of \"authentic Chinese (mostly Si Chuan or Chong Qing) cuisine\" so no matter how expensive the dishes are ppl will still go there\nI do prefer them over regular mix rice simply because of the mapo tofu"], ["Because China mainland are here to stay"], ["So many answers, but nobody mentioned that it's actually quite cheap and affordable for the price no?"], ["Ate at a similar store like this in Uptown and I quite enjoy it"], ["Why did this became a problem for you to ask? Why don't you ask why Japanese and Korean food are popping up all over Malaysia?"], ["Thanks for letting me know such Chinese restaurants exist in Malaysia now. I shall plan a trip this coming January when I travel up north\nTo answer your question it's because Sichuan cuisine is loved by Chinese diaspora all over the world, so some Chinese Nationals residing here are just making bank off of the craze", "Not all Chinese diaspora...\nSichuan cuisine is not native to Malaysian Chinese palates, nor did it have much of a presence in our cuisine until recent years. Hokkien, Hainan, Hakka, Teochew style food were our staples. Please don't think of Chinese diaspora cultures as a homogeneous thing.", "It's not native to Singapore too, but in recent years it's really been making a huge impact here. Chinatown here is now overrun by many Sichuan restaurants run by Chinese nationals, there's more Hai Di Laos everywhere, every school and university has a mala stall in their canteen, and we've had mala KFC, potato chips and other snacks too because everyone loves it now"], ["why? because people like it. supply and demand."], ["It's marketing. Package it differently, charge more. I make ownself cheaper."], ["china Australia also like this lol"], ["Pot, bowl style fast food trending."], ["money.\nthere's really no other reason for businesses to open."], ["Under the same consultant company I guess. The consultant company offers the project and investors or boss interest in it."], ["It targets a very specific market, young people who now have a limited budget and little time to cook/eat well.\nI'm in that target group, this suits me to a tee, cheap wholesome non-processed food."], ["Because opening in Malaysia cheaper than opening in Singapore."], ["Looks tasty and quite cheap? Kinda hope someone will make for a muslim one."], ["The era of delivery, they're easy to deliver"], ["30 days Visa free for chinese citizen is an invasion."], ["A meal for rm8? Sign me up man. Honestly i just want good zapfan, dont really care where they come from. If its a good addition to my wallet, ill happily embrace them into my neighbourhood. No longer need to pay the stingy zapfan aunty take small portions still blink eye can charge like rm15+"], ["Restoran viral"], ["There's always a trend that will last around 10 - 20 years until something else comes up. 30 years ago we had DeliFrance. After that we had Coffee Bean until Old Town White Coffee came. Now you see DeliFrance no more, Old Town also doing so-so la along with Coffee Bean. The BobaTea craze has been around few gears already still strong but now came to Boba tea ice-cream craze. In few years, all these will also be dying all gone when something new came up. All for syok saja. Thing is people can get tired of these things especially when they are not cheap"], ["Concept looks similar to the tiffin carrier of old."], ["I categorise this as the China Zap Fan"], ["Beware of \u9884\u5236\u83dc, aka pre-cooked meals in packages. They are of extremely low quality, full of preservatives and food coloring. The fucking China gahmen is forcing these shitty meals onto school kids.\nhttps://youtu.be/lq5RyYoGvu4"], ["I don't really like China food and I tend to stay away from it\nBut there's this tomato egg noodle that I tasted once and I really liked it\nWhich is crazy considering I don't even like tomato but that's like the only thing I like\nThe other thing I like is dumping lol\nIdk about the rest\nI think China food is like really \"heavy\" in taste compare to Chinese food in Malaysia which is like \"light\", idk if this is the correct term"], ["To make money"], ["Mainland China punya globalisasi"], ["They want to attract these China food ads to all the whole Malaysian Chinese community.\nHonestly as a Malaysian banana cina, i don't really eat most of these kind of restaurants."]]}
{"title": "Kuala Selangor fauna(Mangrove broadwalk to Eagle feeding)", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uhfb7/kuala_selangor_faunamangrove_broadwalk_to_eagle/", "num_comment": 3, "flairlabel": ["Environment"], "header": "", "comments": [["In pic 19, although the tourism board label it as \"Eagle\" feeding,there are no actual eagles, they are Brahminy kites instead which feed along the whiskered terns(limited to 20 photos so did not post clearer image of terns)", "Nice catch! Love your pictures too. Malaysia does have an under appreciated bunch of local wildlife. Them fiddler crabs are just so enigmatic looking"], ["Pic #1, your average r/Malaysia nyet :26554:"]]}
{"title": "Buying from Malaysia to Singapore", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uzkre/buying_from_malaysia_to_singapore/", "num_comment": 0, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Hello kawan-kawan Malaysia, Selamat Tahun Baru!\nThere is a perfume that I wanna buy because the scent is amazing, but their pop-up store is in Kedah, and I can't travel to Kedah at the moment. I researched and came across a service called Zlock, and I'm thinking to use it and then pick it up in Johor via one of Zlock's lockers. The perfume store has a Shopee presence, and I've a pretty flexible work schedule and can go in Johor whenever.\nDoes anyone have any experience using Zlock? Are there other locker services available in JB?\nI also came across MBE PUDO (Pick Up, Drop-Off, Return Services) - not sure how it works yet, if anyone has experience with it, pls let me know too!\nThank you!", "comments": []}
{"title": "The Federal Government will relinquish its authority over Sabah's electricity matters on 3rd Jan 2024", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18ubwix/the_federal_government_will_relinquish_its/", "num_comment": 17, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["So if electricity in Sabah still fuck up it's not federal fault it's their state fault now?", "Yes, starting from 3 Jan 2024.\n* Something fuck up in SS *\nSS: Ini semua salah Semenanjung!\nFeds: * Give up power and transfer it to SS states *\n* Something still fuck up in SS *\nSS: [Surprised pikachu face]\nFeds: :26554:\n/jk", "it was not instantly , they can say they have a plan, but need time to execute", "too bad, the legacy effects from Feds may take years to wear off", "Yeah sabah mp's kroni is salivating right now", "oh they will find some way to blame", "One of the comment already preset the blame shift towards \"the legacy effects from Feds may take years to wear off \". So if they start to use that excuse, people like that guy would eat it up easily. Because surely, only the feds are dirty and theirs are squeaky clean. Next, they'll use the word lesser evil as a counter point, same old, same old. Cheers.", "Federal's fault because they refuse to take responsibility for the state's incompetence"], ["TLDR: The Federal Government has given the State Legislature of Sabah the legislative powers to make laws on the matters of electricity. The Federal Government has also, by multiple gazatted orders, suspended the operation of federal electricity laws in Sabah. All of these will take effect on 3 Jan 2024\nThe Sabah State Legislature is expected to sit during a special session on 3 Jan 2024 to pass a new state law in regards of Sabah's electricity matters.\nGeneral news on this: https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2023/12/994264/sabah-exercise-full-authority-over-electricity-accordance-malaysia\n1st pic: https://lom.agc.gov.my/act-view.php?language=BI&type=pua&no=P.U.%20(A)%20393/2023%20393/2023)\n2nd pic: https://lom.agc.gov.my/act-view.php?language=BI&type=pua&no=P.U.%20(A)%20394/2023%20394/2023)\n3rd pic: https://lom.agc.gov.my/act-view.php?language=BI&type=pua&no=P.U.%20(A)%20395/2023%20395/2023)\n4th pic: https://lom.agc.gov.my/act-view.php?language=BI&type=pua&no=P.U.%20(A)%20396/2023%20396/2023)\n5th pic: https://lom.agc.gov.my/act-view.php?language=BI&type=pua&no=P.U.%20(A)%20397/2023%20397/2023)"], ["Hmm Taib Mahmud - Electricity Edition will be born then.\nSemua kontrak utility Sabah dia akan sapu", "Taib is Sarawak agong, what does it have to do w Sabah?\nSabah have their own blood suckers", "I know, my point and yours are the same. There will be some cronies/blood sucker who monopoly all those deals either directly or indirectly, and Sabah will remain the same despite all resources.", "That why Bung and Shafie want to gether2 against Hajiji", "And u think that\u2019s for the sake of Sabahan? \ud83d\ude02", "Better than Hajiji the \"Sabah Maju Jaya\" signboard guy"], ["Elon Musk is going to sell tons of Cybertruck :26554:"], ["Hope it doesn't turn out like Texas."]]}
{"title": "AirAsia Malaysia CEO Riad to Leave Role After Almost 6 Years", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18usojc/airasia_malaysia_ceo_riad_to_leave_role_after/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "", "comments": [["<image>"]]}
{"title": "I've done it", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18udg6z/ive_done_it/", "num_comment": 110, "flairlabel": ["Satire"], "header": "", "comments": [["Which one is you?", "Glad someone is asking the hard questions.", "Yeah that mathatir cosplay is really convincing", "lol", "sial can someone get this oldfart OP away from the coser?", "The ancient mysterious man", "probably the girl", "Are you sure it's a girl?", "Fooled me good"], ["He's like \"Adakah ini hasil wawasan 2020 aku\"", "dasar pandang ke timur gone right"], ["Watch out, he's going to sugma ur life force out", "Not gonna work, bro", "What is sugma? Is it a new malay slang?", "Sugma kacang, adik kecil\nGottem", "Another way to say \"suck my\""], ["Mahatir is having that Oppenheimer's regret look for the unprecedented effect of his 'Dasar Pandang Timur' policy.", "Hahahahahhaha this is a deep track sejarah"], ["<image>\nYou can tell how disappointed he is to our generation \ud83d\ude02", "Same energy", "\ud83d\ude02", "u sure that's not a happy face?"], ["DASAR PANDANG TIMUR IS RILLL"], ["I didn't know Tun M is a fellow redditor.", "he's one of us now"], ["Damn Tun M finally got a chance to take a picture with cosplayer"], ["Atok don't look impress in the first pic"], ["\ud83d\udc80\ud83d\udc80\ud83d\udc80"], ["Tun got same energy"], ["wow the cosplay is dope", "Very convincing indeed. Especially the wrinkles. Must have used up a lot of modelling Clay!", "Yeah that cosplay looks sexy hot!..\nAnd also haramboi costume looks cool too.", "Iirc that's a dude BTW \ud83d\udc80", "Obviously , its mahathir lol .", "", "Who is she cosplaying?", "some old and experienced politicians by the look of it idk"], ["Hasil Look East Policy."], ["Lmaooo that's insane"], ["Are you a boy or a girl? Because looking at the picture I cannot tell /s", "???\ud83e\udd21", "Yeah they should. I didn\u2019t disagree. But that\u2019s not what the entirety of lgbt represents. We\u2019re not \u2018lost generations\u2019. We are just more capable of expressing ourselves freely and don\u2019t have an ego as fragile as you. We know who we are. We know who we love. No one is \u2018forcing it down your throat\u2019. You see it on social media? Then don\u2019t use social media if ur that bothered. Simple enough. Don\u2019t criticise things that you don\u2019t know anything of and stick to living your pathetic old life to the fullest instead of being a hater over things that doesn\u2019t even concern you. You\u2019re a straight cisman. Good for you. Go lick a pussy or something. No one\u2019s asking you to cut your dick off and put on a dress. Your time is almost up anyways. Cheers.", "...that person did not say they are non-binary or trans?", "Imagine thinking that masculinity is so fragile that wearing a skirt can erase it", "I passed the entrance exam for a Japanese government uni in a STEM subject and have been able to pay off my tuition with my own part time job money for 3 semesters now, I think I'm doing quite well but eh \ud83d\ude0a", "You did not refute the point I brought up- that it is absurd to think that wearing a skirt makes a man any less of a man- and then claimed I lost. I explained how I don't think I did. I believe we are perfectly on point.\nWearing a skirt does not make a man any less of a man. The act of wearing a skirt and not believing in gender norms are not markers of incapablity, inability to succeed in modern life or lack of grit- that is the point I wanted to make. Men have worn skirt like clothes and paid attention to their appearances throughout history and across cultures- pants did not exist in Muhammad's age, nor in Jesus or in Buddha's, in Confucius's or Marcus Aurelius' or in the eras of emperors and kings... Are you going to argue that these people were not men?\nWhy are you hung up on another person's behavior?", "Why are you hung up on another person's behavior?\nProbably having post nut clarity after fapping to a man in a skirt.", "Wtf are you saying man", "omg i thought this was a girl the whole time", "No, he's a regular cosplayer in r/bolehland.", "oh well it\u2019s a really good cosplay", "Comments removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat.\nWhile you're not using direct insults, you're still making personal attacks, i.e.: attacking your conversational partner instead of the topic itself - \"kids\" (declaring someone is your inferior and speaking down to them meets the criteria above). This causes escalation, so don't do that please.\nI also see you've been doing a lot of flaming in the form of bigotry on this thread.\nPlease stop equating LGBT to a form of mental illness.\nThe basic stance of American Psychological Association (APA) and the American Psychiatric Association is that \"homosexuality is not a mental disorder but is rather a normal form of human sexuality, and they propose that their stance is based on significant scientific evidence\".\nIn 1990, homosexuality was declassified as a mental disorder by WHO (World Health Organization) in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD-10)\nIn 2019 WHO no longer classifies gender nonconformity as a \u201cmental disorder.\u201d\nYou're a relatively new account so please treat this as your one and only warning as reddiquette is actively enforced here."], ["Tun M: Maybe I shouldn't take photos with that Pink Guy last year..."], ["Easily post of the year"], ["Based siak, wtf..."], ["Why is that leg at that angle ?\nThe second picture.."], ["Didnt know malaysia had a wax museum. It looks so real , howd you get it to change expressions?"], ["He looked like the grandpa in disney up movie lol"], ["He's not impressed"], ["Now I know Tun M Redditor name :26561:"], ["Is he going to save Cosplay ?"], ["\"if I have a time machine, I'll go back 80 years to my youth and show this pic to them and that'll make them commit sudoku on themselves\"", "You want them to commit a number-placement puzzle on themselves? \ud83e\udd14"], ["AYO WTF"], ["No fucking way XD"], ["Bro rethinking his idea of \"Dasar Pandang ke Timur\""], ["Hahaha this is way just too funny Lol lah hahaha, speechless hahaha \ud83e\udd23\ud83d\ude02 Uncle brother Dr Mahathir still can't let it go his country and take it too seriously of his youngest generation :26558::29091:"], ["Who is this cutie on the right?"], ["Was he aware that you're a guy? \ud83d\ude02"], ["Did you tell that fucking racist to piss off?"], ["ICONIC."], ["dont take foto... it's nothing. take video, it's more pro and can keep repeat and laugh, bcos Tun is the Shiaets, everyone wants to live the lavish life, how many can be so high up there, itu maha KUT !", "Yeah I should have lmao but the security was intimidating and there was a crowd of people wanting to take pictures"], ["<image>", "H, T, L", "Eh\u2026 N, G", "Nah. it's B,G"], ["Congratulations champ, you made history"], ["Nice to see Mahatir and his son"], ["I really hope nothing bad happens to you lol"], ["Never believed I'd live to see this \ud83d\ude02"], ["Not sure what is so proud about talking pictures with a racist ex PM"], ["What\u2019s so good about taking a pic with this old prick?"], ["Who ever did the make up is awesome"], ["Impossibly based."], ["I don't know who he is.\nNot knowing who he is is the best punishment for a narcissistic hypocrite like this."], ["This feels like a frickin fever dream"], ["Now do this but with obama"], ["Tun M is (not) impressed??? :P"]]}
{"title": "average Malaysian cat (found in Putrajaya Lake)", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uvtva/average_malaysian_cat_found_in_putrajaya_lake/", "num_comment": 10, "flairlabel": ["Environment"], "header": "", "comments": [["OP GIVE BACK MY SECONDS IN WATCHING THIS VID !!!! KANASAI I THOUGHT A CAT WOULD ATTACK THE LIZARD !!"], ["average cat ... I knew they had nine lives but damn they can also shape shift nowadays?"], ["My parents always warned me and my siblings to never touch the water in the Putrajaya Lake\n\u201dTakut ada buaya\u201d\nWell, uh. no crocodiles, but i don\u2019t think i\u2019ll be touching the water"], ["Silly OP, that's a dog."], ["Asian water monitor"], ["mkh... \ud83e\udd23"], ["I think the cat has autism."], [""], ["Ppsssp, ppsssspp, ppsssspp...."], ["I know 2 turtles in the Putrajaya lake. Their names are Georgie and Sarah and they usually accompany me when I'm questioning my existence. I usually feed them bread but since I have work, I can't spend time with them like I used to. Send my regards to them please :)"]]}
{"title": "Happy New Year Monyets!", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uzqpx/happy_new_year_monyets/", "num_comment": 1, "flairlabel": ["Culture"], "header": "", "comments": [["What AI program this is?"]]}
{"title": "regarding my last post, you guys saved my life", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uelcg/regarding_my_last_post_you_guys_saved_my_life/", "num_comment": 14, "flairlabel": ["Wholesome"], "header": "You can go ahead and check my profile if you want to know the whole story, but a few days ago I made a post in hopes of seeking advice from fellow Malaysians, I was kicked out of my family's toxic household at 18, homeless for 2 days with 6 ringgit to my name. I was desperate, starving and I felt hopeless and lost.\nA few people messaged me directly to offer help hours after I made the post, supported me through it all mentally and financially, I was able to live on the streets and the homeless shelter for a couple days until I was safe. Somebody even paid for a night stay in a hotel for me. I never would've thought a bunch of internet strangers would help me through one of my toughest moments. I want to thank this subreddit and Malaysians, for having a good and loving sense of community, it restored my faith in humanity completely when I was in rock bottom. To those that helped me I can't thank you enough.\nAlthough mentally I'm still struggling with things, I am now safe, I'm with my uncle and we're on our way to Perlis, hopefully I can start over again and get my life straightened out. I feel positive about this and I couldn't get through this without the help of the very nice people I've ever met online. I will try my hardest to make the best out of it. Terima KASIH!!!!!\nspecifically, thank you Ryan and Rach L, I will never forget you guys \ud83d\ude4f\ud83c\udffc", "comments": [["For context; OP's post that was redirected to the Daily Thread 4 days ago:\nNeed help. Homeless, hungry, don't know what to do\nPosting here cause I don't know where else to ask Malaysians for advice,\nFor the record i'm 18, my household has always been toxic. My mother especially, has always been very (verbally) abusive towards me and my siblings and would berate us for every little thing. It only got worse when my dad passed away a year ago, the verbal abuse didn't stop, mom would yell and scream at us when she's stressed about things at her work. It came to the point where I've accepted that this will be my everyday life. I understand that she's going through something, so does everyone in our family, but she refuses to accept the fact, and seek help so she takes it out on us instead. I just don't know why.\n2 days ago, I don't know what set her off exactly but she was even worse than usual. She got off from work early and she saw me still sleeping (it was 2pm, and I have insomnia, prescribed with alprazolam which causes me to be put in deep sleep) and woke me up by pouring water at me, yelling and telling me to wake up. She told me how i'm useless for the family and that she doesn't want to waste her money to take care of me anymore. She threw my wallet at me and gave me 10 minutes to get out of the house, and told me not to come back. I felt defeated, I didn't say anything, I just did what she told me to. I get how she feels that way.\nI'm wandering around KL Cheras now, with only 6 ringgit in my wallet. I haven't eaten since yesterday, my data will run out in 2 days, and I only had 2 hours of sleep earlier in front of an abandoned shop until I got kicked out by someone. I managed to get into contact with some of my close relatives from my dad's side of the family that are willing to take me with them for a while, only problem is they're in Perlis and could only get to me by Friday. I don't know where I should go till then. I'm just too hungry and have no energy left. Currently sitting at one of the bus stops here. My mom blocked my phone number from Whatsapp so I can't contact her. I can't go back home. I know it sounds silly, but mentally I feel so much safer here than how I would be back there, and I'm not so sure if she would've let me anyways. I don't know where to start. What do I do?"], ["Me too. Glad you had help. Bless the people who helped you too!!!"], ["Faith in humanity r/Malaysia restored"], ["Nice, I wasn't here when you posted the earlier post, but I'm glad the community helped you where it matters and that you're safe now!\nHopefully, your future is fulfilling for you!"], ["Just read your post and i cant even imagine how devastating your situation is. Stay strong OP!"], ["Bless the people who helped you."], ["How old are your siblings?"], ["this is heartwarming. Glad you're doing better"], ["Please update us in the comments when you reached Perlis safely!"], ["Monyet together strong"], ["You keep your chin up, this chapter is closed and better things will come by. Bad times never last but you have to remember to never give up on yourself, the people whom treat you kindly never gave up on you. Cheers mate."], ["May god bless you"], ["redditor save the day, malaysia improved."], ["All the best OP!"]]}
{"title": "Airbnb gave a millennial couple $100,000 to build a wacky house in Malaysia. So they did.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uslu9/airbnb_gave_a_millennial_couple_100000_to_build_a/", "num_comment": 11, "flairlabel": ["Tourism & Travel"], "header": "", "comments": [["RM450,000 and this is what came of it lol.", "30% of it probably goes to the platform tbh", "You spelled \"taxes\" wrong"], ["that visible AC compressor ruining the look lol"], ["This cost 100k USD? Gosh I really wish we could get a price breakdown for shit like this.", "Seems like the homeowners had to fork out 10k USD to finish the project. According to them from the website, they said that they will still build it, but the funds from AirBnB just helped expedite the process.\nThey also planned to build two more in the future."], ["Hmm i thought the hse had to be wacky...wasnt evvisioning this."], ["looks like a kelapa shell stripped of its hard outer shell and but upside down, with holes cut in it.", "I tot that's what they're going for?"], ["There\u2019s already something similar built in Melaka with better structure\u2026and multiple units. I\u2019m gonna sound like a hater but this looks like a fail to me."], ["It floats"], ["Could have built 2 to keep Rajah Bomoh happy"]]}
{"title": "Somalian Tiktok Influencer Safiah21 Disturbing People In Starbuck Malaysia", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uh11w/somalian_tiktok_influencer_safiah21_disturbing/", "num_comment": 136, "flairlabel": ["Mildly interesting"], "header": "", "comments": [["So we got a Johnny Somali case here?", "apparently it's funny to harass people in public", "Wannabe somali", "Oh lawd"], ["Let people drink and eat what they want :26563:\nAlso me: Eww Starbucks people and their glorified overpriced sugary water :26556:", "I agree. People who are boycotting should leave others alone.\nI don\u2019t support the boycott movement because it\u2019s nonsensical, but I also don\u2019t buy from Starbucks because it\u2019s overpriced.", "terrible overpriced coffee*. its only overpriced in malaysia, they actually compete in europe because starbucks malaysia is majority owned by a chinese tycoon who is as ignorant as ever.", "In the end, it's people and their money if they want to boycott they can boycott if they want to buy from them they can buy from them. What I don't like is when these activists that harrass and shame people.", "thats basically every single activist out there.", "how is it nonsensical, may I ask ??", "Because boycotting USA companies does nothing other than harming workers here of their honest job. The execs and shareholders are basically losing nothing but their investment money, which is nothing in the grand scheme of things. They're also very loosely tied with USA Starbucks, which again will hurt no one in USA.\nAvoid starbucks because their coffee is shit, not because nonsensical reasons.", "i mean the workers would have to be paid one way or another, regardless if they boycotted companies are losing sales or whatnot right? If the company failed to pay its workers and staffs then isnt it on them, instead of the people boycotting it ? the company had to make responsible, not the ones boycotting it no? I'm just genuinely curious", "Because a good percentage of people who are \u201cboycotting\u201d literally went to Starbucks and McDonald\u2019s when the 4 day ceasefire happened. The point is, many people are boycotting now just for social media clout or because it makes them look good in the eyes of others around them. I can guarantee that a good majority of people who are swearing they would never buy from American brands again to buy within few months. That\u2019s why I said it\u2019s nonsensical, they focus on short term goals rather than aiming at long term goals."], ["I saw the original video and damn everyone was supportive. What's the world becoming to ><", "ohhh jgn memain dengan tiktok, the place where people easily influenced mcm kerbau kena tarik hidung", "Makes me hate TikTok even more"], ["There is no Starbucks neither in Israel nor in Palestine. There is also no Starbucks franchisee with HQ in Israel either\nPeople who boycott Starbucks because of Israel do so because one of the founders is an American Jew and achieve nothing except procing Israels bickering about criticizement of Israel being antisemitism right\nSBUX has little to do with this conflict as a chain of stores can...this is really stupid. Don't be ashamed dribmig your 1000kcal Venti Frappuchino\nSame with the McD boycott in MY...the franchisee is Qatari or Saudi lol", "I've been boycotting Starbucks way before it was cool, ever since I found out how horrible their \"coffee\" (sugar water) tastes.", "true hipster :)\ntbh I use them as a coworking space on travels all over the world. Buy one venti black filter coffee and use their comfy seats, plugs and wifi for half a day. Its a cost-efficient solution to get work done, and their filter coffee is just like any random black coffee quality-wise\nI would feel bad doing so at some mom-and-pop shop, buying only one drink for hours. Not so with Starbucks, because their franchisees are huge corps themselves\nCan't stand their sugary drinks", "thats not the only thing. the world heavily boycotted israel during the early days under the british mandate when the arabs were fighting everyone. The jews supported the british against the barbaric arabs. However the whole world was very anti jew in the flow of weapons and equipment but turned a blind eye to the arabs who not only supported the nazis but started the violence in the first place. So the world had applied an unfair ruling to the jews letting the arabs do what they wish despite the rules but applying it to everyone else. The jews supported each other and managed to smuggle in their own weapons.\nBasically any boycott against israel isnt going to work, as they had experienced boycotts from the start. Not even the british allowed their own to sell weapons to israel during its early days so they developed the merkava tank. They even developed their own weapons that were very successful and used by the world even other muslim nations today out of the boycotts and restrictions they faced against terrible odds.\nSo i dont see how any boycott against israel would work given their largest financial income are from americans and they have succeeded under years of boycott.", "Wrong people boycott starbucks because 1. Founder is a staunch zionist in support of genocide 2. Starbucks the company sued Starbuck workers union in America for writing a pro palestinian statement.\nPeople boycott McD because - Israeli branch gave multiple thousands of free meals to IDF child killers while Palestinians children are dying of hunger and thirst\nAnti-boycotters clearly dont read and think they\u2019re the most intelligent people in the country when the opposite is true.", "Starbucks the company sued Starbuck workers union in America for writing a pro palestinian statement.\nhttps://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-10-18/starbucks-sues-workers-united-union-saying-pro-palestinian-post-damaged-its-reputation\nThey sued the union for using the \"Starbucks\" name and obvious similarity in their logo for this statement\nStarbucks sued for brand infringement. The Union could even ask for Jewish Genocide and it would likely be covered by free speech provisions in the US. But they shouldn't use Starbucks' name for politics\nFounder is a staunch zionist in support of genocide\nSo what? Siegl, the jewish co-founder, left the company 1980. He is now working as a keynote speaker (he did speak on events in KL, btw). If you want to boycott him for his opinion, boycott his speeches.\nIsraeli branch\nNot Israeli branch, but the Israeli franchisee, which is an Israeli company called Alonyal. As usual with such franchises, they act independently and McD has no right to immediately cancel their license over sth like that\nThe Malaysian Franchisee has nothing to do with Alonyals' decision, obviously.\nAnti-boycotters clearly dont read and think they\u2019re the most intelligent people in the country when the opposite is true.\nRight back at ya. As usual, BDS people embarrass themselves by swinging and missing\nIf you want to actually hit targets involved with Israel, don't buy Intel chips, don't buy Sodastream machines, don't buy Obela Hummous, don't buy Teva meds, don't buy PepsiCo products because PepsiCo has a Joint Venture with Strauss Group. These are examples of companies which run factories in Israel on their own, or are Israeli-owned or -based.\nBDS people could do all that, but they rather lash out at random big corps close-by because they have some links to Jews, because TikTok told them to do so.", "The other person's name has an 88 btw. Take that as you will.", "What has my name got to do with it?", "I think they are implying that it's your birthyear and something about your age... but little do they realize it was your IQ.", "don't buy Sodastream machines\nDang they should boycott TeaLive now since TeaLive sells sodastream machines (which I assume they rebrand locally). However I love my sodastream machine, it really helps me cut down on other soft drinks as I discovered I really only enjoy the \"carbonated\" part of soft drinks XD", "I am taking about Howard Schultz. The man who is also against Starbucks workers having a union. If you couldnt care less about dying Palestinians at least care about the baristas and workers who dont have a union. Or just admit you dont care about other human beings and continue enjoying a shitty burnt coffee.\nhttps://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/howard-schultz", "Its all just absolutism and whataboutism with you lot. You can\u2019t boycott everything because america holds too much power so you boycott what you can and the easiest thing is overpriced sugary coffee and fast food. By your rationale we all should just stop recycling since we use petrol cars right?", "Anti zionism is anti semitism according to the EU definition of antisemitism.\nHamas still has millions of Shekels and received billions of dollars from Qatar. No kid would be hungry if they cared.\nBoycotting Israel doesn\u2019t change a thing. You should boycott Qatar and Iran.", "You know theres a blockade right by Israel to allow food and aid into Gaza? No matter how much money Hamas purportedly has food cannot come in. Where do you get your news from: CNN BBC or Fox? Funny how the Palestinians are Levants so technically they are semites. So if you\u2019re against them are you anti-semitic too? I\u2019ll start taking the EU seriously when it criticizes Israel the way it rightfully criticizes Russian warcrimes. The West should be nobody\u2019s moral compass. They lost the plot decades ago.", "By the recent report that israel cutting off power and water, gives a clue to a lot of things. Israel controlling palestine to a tee. What money is good when you can't use it."], ["What about those workers earning a living there?", "who cares, let's people here don't have a job, die cannot eat, all their family members need to be neglected,as long as idk somehow saving Palestine by doing that?", "Malaysians losing their jobs is a worthwhile sacrifice for them. Because they claim it's easy to find a job.\nIt took me 1.5 years to find a job here even with a university degree.", "Because their mentality is that jobs that are easy to find are retails and Grab. Yeah, real career advancement.", "You can already see those comments on tiktok.", "All the while those on top who organized it wear luxury brands and drive luxury cars that support Isreal\ud83e\udd37\u200d\u2642\ufe0f", "Everyone should support Israel. They make the world safer by locking up Hamas terrorists.", "Ohhh boy, I guess you don't know who is funding them.", "Doesn't affect her, so fuck them", "Honest living at that \ud83e\udd72", "They can receive zakat instead."], ["I fking hate people like this. Let people do what they want as long it doesn't affect others.\nYou people need to take a chill pill."], ["Saw what somalis and pakistanis ( local and diaspora )wrote before abt malaysian minorities on twitter. Most of it are N*zi vibes and let say, not good.", "Oof, where did you read them? I might take a look myself", "I dont have the screenshot.\nBut I remember their messages be like \"Non malays should convert to Islam as the only way to achieve peace\" \"We have more rights over Malaysian non muslims once we enter Malaysia\""], ["Cringe behaviour, time to buy starbucks tmr"], ["I hope she will deported out of this country for being stupid", "lol i expect the majority of the population here will treat her as queen while blaming the Cina for drinking in Starbucks.", "Funny how they told me as a non-Muslim that supporting Palestine is not for religion but humanitarian cause\nMy University had a \"Walk for peace\" campaign in honor of Palestine\nMy simple question, if this is for humanitarian causes, why was there no public outrage for the Ukrainians when Russia invaded? Why didn't they storm to the Russian embassy and cast them out?\nSimple answer: It IS about religion lol", "heck, there's even some malaysian teenagers on social media who supports Russia for their actions", "Support Russia, and then support Palestine later on. Lmao.", "I even approached one of them and they said they support Russia because \"Ukraine was under Russia during the soviet times\", like that doesn't make sense at all lmao. that doesn't justify anything", "That's a major facepalm.", "anddddd malaysia was under the british so whats his point. disappointing to see teens like this to have this type of mindset", "Total cringe. Imagine simping for the country that killed 43 of our citizens.\nMalaysia is too soft on Russia.", "It's probably the anti semitism thing that made them support Russia lmao", "It is not just Ukraine, the worse is there was lack of apathy for the war victims in Yemen and conflicts involving Muslim as victims elsewhere. Support foreigners in the expense of fellow citizens. Then blame cina for every problems caused indirectly by them. It is about religion, turning a blind eye when the perpetrators are muslims. Won\u2019t be so eager to be sopro pilistin now. I love Mekdi.", "Tbh, rohingyas in myanmar and people in darfur sudan are muslims too and they are prosecuted badly but no one goes and protest for them either.\nFunnily enough, rohingyas arrived in aceh indonesia but they are strongly rejected by the locals there just a few days ago, even the students went out and protested about them.", "Dont get started on some of the bs rohingyas have done here as well.", "I've read many Indonesians say that Rohingya refugees tend to behave terribly there, which is why they cant stand them any longer", "They behave very poorly in Malaysia too. Nearly every encounter I\u2019ve had with them isn\u2019t pleasant.", "Simple answer: It IS about religion lol\nnote: only the religion when practiced by Arabs\nThere's a genocide happening to Uyghurs in China but none of the muslims here seem to kick up a fuss about it.", "thats because its a counter genocide. All these terrible global preachers inciting hatred against the jews and non muslims, chanting loudly to convert western nations into islamic ones go unchecked outside china. You do that in china well you can see the results now. Mosques are being demolished and rules are being enforced to make sure there is no mosque too close to one another. Arrests are made for anyone who preach hatred and they would demolish any establishment supporting would be enemies.\nWhile china does have a racist policy in its integration, it however like poland is the only way against islamisation that would cause a country to go backwards as we have currently seen. The ughurs are not being genocided but being reeducated. Yes there are camps but they arent slave labours either as they get to use better equipment than malaysian farmers.\nIm not saying their approach is good, but currently no one in the world is giving a better solution to the muslim problem than china and poland.", "The ughyurs are not being genocided? Wow. Have you asked they opinion whether they are being ethnically cleansed or not?", "yes, i looked at both sides of the arguments. China does ethnic cleansing not by force but by ideology. Ask yourself why does china target the ughurs? What treat do they show to the CCP?\nThe answer - islam. Islam is a radical religion (if you study islam deeply you will come to this). If islam truely was peaceful, they would not be facing the same thing. Sure the CCP does trample on christians in china but not as bad as the muslims and with good reason.\nYou see while christian scripture has its horrors you would be far fetched to see christian radicalism except in the US against the church of satan which is actually a form of activisim against religion. christians thinks they legit worship satan. to me however all of abrahamic religions are from satan, they just call it god and dont want to admit it.\nShow me any good christian or islamic country. many countries in europe are atheists with only christianity for show.", "It's not about Islam. The Huis are Muslims too and they don't get targeted by the PRC government. The Uyghurs practice radical islam and commit terrorist acts, that's why they are being clamped down.", "That's what I was saying about the ughurs. However other Muslims say if you aren't radical you aren't a Muslim and consider you Kadir. Hamas will kill their own for watching porn. Therefore Islam radical and to anti terrorist is anti Islam. That's how the world responds", "yes, why is there no walk for armenia?", "msu?", "Us Malays like to screw our fellow people for social media brownie points. Who make up most of the staff at Starbucks?", "Why blame the cina for drinking starbuck?", "pendatang/kafir harbi/DAP/Komunis/Sepupu Chin Peng pick your tagline here", "Who hurt u so bad bro?", "The average intelligence of the majorities", "Feel bad for you bro. Biasalah tak semua manusia tu baik hati.", "Lol xpayah cover bro, cuba korang baca komen kat TikTok tu, byk je member kau maki orang Cina sbb shorts tu ade \"muka sepet\"... dont expect much when most Malaysian are blinded with pemujaan yg zalim", "byk je member kau\nThere's no need for generalization, every race has their own bunch of assholes.", "Sorry bro. Aku tak ada tiktok. So selepas kau tersakiti, apa kau buat utk ubati hati kau?", "Minum Starbucks Dan makan mekdi", "I already don't support Starbucks because they use coffee specifically using CHILD SLAVE LABOR (look it up on Guardian news), against worker unions (countless news) or the horrendous olive oil in coffee travesty that makes everyone who drinks it has diarrhea.\nAnd all that from Howard Schultz who retired from the CEO position but his successor, Laxman Narasimhan is not any better since he said this month he only focused on demand and supply but not employee stability or wages. He doesn't address other concerns but makes new ones like using LLM (Large Language Model the actual name for fake AI) to make customers stay in Starbucks programs. (I'm putting it more kindly but he used the words \"Loyalty\").\nBesides most coffee enthusiasts know to stay away from burnt coffee made in Starbucks. Our Malaysian-made coffee is just miles better and cheaper to boot.\nThere are too many issues about Starbucks (not just Palestine) that I wish Malaysians took notice earlier, especially on worker rights.", "even malaysian starbucks which is heavily owned by a chinese tycoon, this chinese guy has the same idea as the american owners about the treatment of employees too and the same bad coffee and pricing. with those prices and popularity, i'd expect their barista to be paid at least 5k a month", "You know, with how pro-anything anti-Israel a majority of the Malaysian muslim population is, I doubt anything significant will happen to her. She might be ignored to continue her shinenigans until this schtick gets old and people start to feel embarrassed of her and thus of themselves because they had also enabled it.\nMy little future prediction anyway.", "israel has survived worse sanctions and boycotts before, thats how they managed to survive the brutal onslaught from the arabs. Not even the british would sell them military equipment that they started making their own and ended up one of the best in the world."], ["she shd do it in Singapore. Then she will learn what is respect."], ["Go back to Somali and eat shit. Reminds me of another Somalian Tiktoker that has been arrested by Japanese authority due to a long list of criminal acts (trespassing, harassing civilians, making fun of nukes) he committed and live stream by himself when visiting Japan, the news say the sheer amount of evidence from his own videos is enough to put him under detention for years and investigation if the authority itemizes the all the crimes individually before the trial even start.", "Johnny Somal is a US citizen I think. He just uses that name for his shit. Dude is annoying as hell.. I don't like to target people's appearance but dude just looks annoying as fuck and even if you imagine him without hs antics, the way he talks, his appearance etc is just annoying af."], ["Deport her back to her country"], ["If I went in without intending to buy shit, that call out wouldve made me buy a drink and some for my officemates\nI support Palestine but this kind of activism makes me frustrated."], ["r/imthemainchatacter"], ["Not all Tourists are idiots people think they're because of people like these"], ["First of all, I thought this thing only happen in the US where a bunch of of TikTokers harrrasing workers and customers for not boycotting Starbucks.\nIt's their choice to to consume what ever they want. It's their money, goddamnit.\nThis user is using TikTok, which infact is supported by the Chinese Communist government that actively persecute and murder many Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang. So this person better stop using the fucking app or else it'll be seen as hypocritical. And why stop here, this user is probably using products by Apple or Google in which they're supporting Israel. So that makes them even more of a hypocrite. Why bother shaming people for drinking Starbucks if you yourself are using products that are made by companies that support genocide? So stop with this fucking holier-than-thou mentality.\nI don't care if you're pro-Palestine or not, stop shaming people. It's their lives to do what ever they want. If you want real change, pressure your own politicians or lawmakers. Rant over, thanks for coming to my TED-Talk.", "Let's admit it, they only do selective boycott and ignore the rest."], ["More unemployed behaviour."], ["The Tiktoker hates Starbucks for it's involvement with Politics\nI hate Starbucks just because it's Starbucks", "The Tiktoker hates Starbucks for it's involvement with Politics\nThey hate Starbucks because it's the trend to hate on starbucks. They are clout chasing no talent vultures.", "Eh I wouldn't strawman the influencer too much , maybe she does have good intentions , but I find them annoying"], ["Somalia. Such a great and beautiful modern prosperous country built by people great religious people like Safiah. Hope she can return home soon. The rest of us would like that very much."], ["Her harassment of people who patronised Starbucks has little to do with helping Palestine, and more to do with stroking her own ego and gaining likes on social media.\nInconvenient truth."], ["Another Karen mind ur own business"], ["If I'm a foreigner of a country I would never do such stuff. Even in the US with free speech foreigners can get deported if they participate in a protest. She should go protest in her own country if she believes in a \"genocide\"", "That's not true"], ["I believe they did the same in Istanbul and it was cringey af."], ["I got cringed out"], ["I would have kicked him out if i was there."], ["If I saw someone that looks like TikTok influencer filming something at a premise, I'd leave too. Don't wanna get involve in some shitty shenanigans."], ["Look at me, this is my Starbucks now"], ["Alamak! What if somebody shouted Hamas are terrorists at her? \ud83d\ude02", "Cyberbullying using her minions on tiktok.", "Sadly, I can see that happening"], ["What an idiot. There is ZERO Starbucks presence in Israel.", "very few starbucks in europe. Some people appreciate the quality of their coffee you know, they dont care about a brand name."], ["Think I will order Starbuck\u3002"], ["People need to learn to mind their own business."], ["Kick her the fuck out of our country wtf"], ["people who support palestine and want to \"free\" palestine are the ones supporting genocide instead. The problem goes deep all the way into islam, and because israel so happens to be a jewish nation (with 1.5million arab muslims) suddenly they are the criminal and oppressor.\nYou should see what these muslim nations do, you really wouldnt want them around. Oh yeah a lot of people have had bad experience with a few muslim african nations too. Genocide against non muslims have been happening in nigeria recently. Armenia has been attacked by a turkish backed muslim nation keen on resuming its 100 year old failed siege, and more hate and anti kafir is being preached on a global scale to muslim to \"islamanise\" western nations, turning them into the same hateful backward middle eastern muslim nations."], ["So we have our version of \u201cPizzagate\u201d now?! :26563:\nJust leave people alone\u2026"], ["Starbucks drinks are shit.\nRegardless whether Pro-Palestine or not, this \"boycott\" has made me realise how much money we send to Western countries for no good reason.\nIf it's gonna be shitty sugar drinks, we might as well buy it from local brands like Zus, Gigi, Richiamo or whatever. Same shit but at least the money stays in the country.", "Hey hey, they started boycotting Zus for sounding like a Greek God too", "Berjaya Food operates Starbucks in Malaysia\nSure, Starbucks gets some royalties, but the majority of the income ends up at the Malaysian corp and. their suppliers, most likely\nNot sure who roasts the coffee for Malaysian Starbucks. In China, Starbucks operates their own plant. In India, its Tata. In Europe, its Nestle for the European Master Franchisee. Most likely its some company in one of the ASEAN countries supplying Malaysia\nMilk, Soy Milk and pastries are usually supplied by regional suppliers (in Europe the vegan milk alternatives are supplied by Belgian Alpro, for example, Milk is sourced locally in each country)\nSo, no, you don't have to avoid Starbucks to buy local\nSame with McDonalds, btw. They use a US company called OSI for sourcing meat in most parts of the world, which in turn relies on local farmers. Other goods are sourced locally on a regional level (eg Sauces for Malaysian McD are made by Irish Kerry Group at their Johor plant, Bread is made by ASEAN plants of Mexican Grupo Bimbo, Milk comes from some Japanese supplier AFAIK)\nYour local brand likely shares some suppliers with the Western big corps", "Starbucks drinks are shit.\ntheir food is apparently really good. lol https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bOkqFqqCAI4", "Meanwhile I think I\u2019m the only person in here who likes their drinks because it\u2019s nice to me"], ["R\\crineworthy"], ["To each to their own id say. Ur money, if you wanna be a decent person then be la. If u wanna support genociders then support la.\nPersonally i just think people who buy Stabak n Kepsi ni bodoh, not bcuz ure supporting Israel thats u n god not me, but cibai the foods not even that food theyre getting worse kemon la sia.", "you too can be a decent person and stay off all these genocider-made technology that's been serving you your femboy kink. but if you wanna support support la~", "Bluds out here resorting to exposing others kink just to support a brand that doesnt even care bout em, and support Israel? But hey, thats the best you can do. Terasa? Amik la bro"], ["I'm not hating Starbucks at all, at least not now with the buy 1 free 1 until Monday. After Monday, that's another story for next year."], ["If people wanna enjoy their burnt cheap arabica beans juice with a splash of a cheap Monin syrup for a crazy expensive price,let them be. I never boycott nor prevent people from doing so for whatever reason, I just hate the taste of Starbucks drinks. I went to Besut a month ago and I drank one of the most amazing coffee drinks that I have ever tasted for a fraction of the cost, plus they grind and brew the coffee beans in front of you and teach you how to do so. I didn't remember the cafe but there's an astronaut on the logos."], ["Chad Somali"], ["And how is she disturbing people or Starbucks employees?\nThe video does not show that.\nCan the Author of this post please post an explanation?\nAnd I say this as someone who long boycotted Starbucks for years before the most recent Palestine issue. (Coffee acquired with CHILD SLAVE LABOR, they're against worker rights and unions and made the olive oil in coffee = diarrhea)"], ["Who the fuck drinks Starbucks when we have our own coffee culture ? Doesn't matter if it was Jewish or Muslim I'd still boycott Starbucks because it serves crap coffee."], ["Deport those Somalian \"pirates\" back into their country..."], ["Must be some deadbeat cousin of Johnny Somali. Unlike Japan some Malaysians might just beat his ass."]]}
{"title": "Old school cool : revisitng 1998", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18ugtih/old_school_cool_revisitng_1998/", "num_comment": 28, "flairlabel": [], "header": "We had Commonwealth games, Anwar getting arrested for reformasi and the financial crises\nWhats your fondest memory from that year?", "comments": [["Lesson from this video\nMalaysia good in preserving culture.\nPot hole\nCross the road sesuka hati\nNot maintain buildings\nNot friendly predestination walkway\nDouble park\nProton wira"], ["accessing the Internet via TMNet dial-up. Anyone remember babyrina? \ud83d\ude0f\nthe CM is Koh Tsu Koon from Gerakan. Since they're part of BN, okay lah\nwe would buy pirated game DVDs from malls, usually at the topmost floor. The one in Bukit Jambul Complex goes for RM12-RM15 per DVD\nBas Kuning ftw", "Bukit jambul complex omg. My fellow penangite I presume. I used to buy my pc game CDs from there. Good memories circling the top floor finding for my fav games during the holidays", "Yup, Penangite here! Of course I have fond memories of BJC (I was there back when there's an ice skating rink at the ground floor), but my most nostalgic CD/DVD shop would always be that place at Komtar (kinda hard to describe the location though lol).\nAlso back then there's a florist shop in Pulau Tikus that sells old PC games with their thick manuals.", "RJ computers :26554:", "Don't remember that, the old place that I can recall is Z'tronic.\nAnd of course Pineapple.", "Babyrina, we sure have cum a long way :26554::26554::26554:", "Internet was introduced. Netscape navigator and yahoo paved the way. Mirc and icq happened and yes babyrina and Ckg Suraya were two staple names amongst the teenagers that time \ud83e\udd23", "Mirc and icq\nAnd MSN Messenger!", "One stop midlands better than BJC!", "babyrina\nThere's separately one more, a Chinese girl. I thought she's Malaysian too, or at least claimed to be, supposedly was in Australia that time. Can't recall her name at the moment."], ["Still hectic as ever around Kota Raya and Petaling Street, just more foreigners around and lots of homeless near CM."], ["All the cars seen are considered a shitbox today.\nAll the bikes mostly remain the same, small capchai dominated by ex5.", "Those mercedes cars are still around today. Back when German cars are reliable. Unfortunately the BMW and Citroen are gone today"], ["I know it\u2019s probably just nostalgia and a lot of reminiscing of being a kid. But I always think there\u2019s something magical about Malaysia during the late 90s-early 00s for me when it comes to cartoons, musics, culture, entertainment etc"], ["Video is going to be 26 yrs old. Half of 90s and 00s are entering 30s and 20s respectively. Holy...."], ["You can still see those 90s Mercedes E class today, but the BMWs ? Gone"], ["This is so so cool. OP thank you! Stuffs like this makes me feel connected to the past. Dear OP and mods, please don\u2019t take this down", "There are plenty of these videos on YouTube, this is probably taken from one of them.", "Ah really? Cool! Im gonna so go look for them, thank you"], ["world cup, brazil lost to France 3-1. Some food stalls in petaling street no longer there now. The food was real good back then.", "brazil lost to France 3-1\n3-0. The year I started to go football crazy"], ["I visit KL with my parents for the first time. Landed in Subang. First time taking a flight too. I was 6 years old."], ["For the first time , young gen X felt that we might lose our jobs after the Asian Financial crisis . Gloomy times as available jobs everywhere start to dry up , we were so used to walk in interviews held in numerous hotels."], ["Also, potholes \ud83e\udd23"], ["Alr hear me out... One of the Malaysia Vet (1956) by the day he was born there is a record 9k+ baby born that day\nMy parents (1970-1980) have a record of 5k+ born that day\nMe a Gen Z? Only 1.7k+ born that day\nDo you guys know how crazy fast the birth rate drop year by year?"], ["They playing cricket in full uniform back in the days?????"], ["no social media crap, cheap housing. These two alone is a massive buff compared to now."]]}
{"title": "PADU: Mungkin ramai tercicir, tak semua rakyat ada akses isi data dalam talian", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uvuk9/padu_mungkin_ramai_tercicir_tak_semua_rakyat_ada/", "num_comment": 38, "flairlabel": ["Science/ Technology"], "header": "Not yet started already got problem - not everyone got internet to fill up PADU - Governments agency should help in acquiring the information - MPs should do their part too\n\"Kita harus ingat tidak semua rakyat mempunyai akses kepada pendaftaran secara dalam talian, terutama masyarakat terpencil di luar bandar dan mungkin gelandangan di bandar raya yang tidak mampu memiliki telefon pintar.\n\"Seharusnya agensi kerajaan turun padang seperti satu masa dulu Jabatan Penerangan masuk ke kawasan terpencil untuk memberikan penerangan dan membantu proses pendaftaran.\n\"Ia juga boleh dilakukan oleh parti politik yang pastinya mempunyai pangkalan data pengundi masing-masing, apatah lagi wakil rakyat kawasan mesti turun padang seperti ketika tempoh berkempen dahulu,\" katanya kepada BH, hari ini", "comments": [["not everyone got internet (skill) to fill up PADU\nThe elderly already not doing to well when all the bills are digital and tax filing is online only, then drop this on them lagi?"], ["PH and assuming everyone is a city dweller, what else is new", "Though I understand internet has not penetrated ALL parts of Malaysia (e.g. Veveonah situations) there seems to be juxtaposition.\nWe say rural folk are influenced by tik-tok, facebook, whatsapp fowards. How do they access this without internet? More and more are running online businesses and taking orders via whatsapp.\nThe first result on Google (whether you trust the source or not) says that internet penetration rate in Malaysia is 96.8%. Smartphone penetration according to MCMC in 2021 was 94.8%\nI mean, they can use all these social media services. Is the assumption they are too uneducated or lazy to use their internet access to do something else? Serious question.\nGovernments agency should help in acquiring the information\nMy understanding is, that PADU have already done that. The point is now for rakyat to confirm if the data is correct.", "You're missing the part where the people who doesn't have smartphones are likely to be the people who needs the subsidies the most. (barring woke only use Nokia phone for communication people).\n5.2% of the population(100-94.8) still means 1.8 million people.\nThat's what \"tercicir\" means in this context", "To clarify, I'm gonna admit I have no idea how the whole PADU database works, but neither does everyone else.\nAgain, I assume this is just a way to confirm your data.The data is already collected. If for some reason the government thinks you are T20 and you believe you are B40, then this is the way to update the database.\nPADU would only have information on people if they actually owned property, vehicles, EPF, tax filings, etc. If PADU has no information on these people, it would be safe to say they just fall within the B40 and subsidies are provided.\nThat is how it should be done anyway.", "I agree, It should be done that way\nBut even emadani have stupid hung ups like \"tak pernah declare LHDN tak dapat\" , which makes me very reluctant to bersangka baik with PADU's subsidy implementation\nBased on the past, it's more likely they'll just get no subsidy if PADU has no information", "PADU is going to be a political football when it launches no doubt. But really, what other ways are there to do it? If we want to reduce subsidy burden on the government and we can't remove subsidies for all, then there is no choice.\nHonestly people need to play their part as well. Malaysians are too often mollycoddled when it comes to these things. Reminds me of when there were complaints about RapidKL busses switching to TnG only and people didn't bother to read the notices, then got angry when their old parents couldn't use the bus \ud83e\udd26", "Census is the other way, like it or not the PADU system should be supplimentary to the census bureau. What the current government is doing is linking subsidy solely to PADU only. This is what the point of contention.\nOf course people would get angry. You give out a system where not only a failure to give out the proper time and education to inform your citizens on how to use that system, that is a failure on your part.\nIf you have the time and money for a self jerking party at bukit jalil then you should have the time and money to properly implement the sytem for your most vulnerable.\nBeing a democratic government, means you have to be prepare for the most vulnerable and weakest of your society. But hey its their fault isnt it for not doing \"their\" part. What is the point of paying the civil service if they cant peform their civil service.", "And its kampung folks fault that they didn't have the amenities like the city folks /s", "They faults lar cause they vote PAS ,PN /s", "kampung folks\nThere are \"new villages\" and they tend to go with DAP/PH.", "Rapiji is what a redditor looks like when he tries politics.\nLooks good on paper, poor execution", "Shhhh later you got attack by those PH supporters"], ["I don't understand. previously don't have existing data ke for BR1M etc. can't import database ke. E-wallet ask to update LHDN. can't import to PADU? mySalam auto send sms to activate, why the need for new database. if it's new and improved but require full manual key in is it really improved though. punya lah banyak data. data orang mati etc update je lah terus.", "PADU basically combines all these databases into one central one. According to Rafizi, this will make it easier for cross-agency policy work because currently there's a lot of bureaucracy involved in getting data from other agencies. The registration on 2nd January is just to verify whether the information that the government has is up to date/correct.", "the problem is also the data , who own it. unless a mechanism digital id if any of requesr must be honor by user each time somebody access then i agree . If auto expand to e wallet without our permission how ?", "Interesting point. Well I guess the ownership is still with the government, same as it is right now.\nBest answer I can give you rn"], ["Hope this really transparent enough for all rakyat. Not another u turn policy."], ["I think most of the points described by the author are non-issues. PADU just essentially combines all the information that the government agencies already have on you, and registering for the platform is so that you can verify/update your personal data. Doesn't really affect you if you're currently eligible for welfare benefits (like STR / e-Madani). And for the rural areas, if I'm not mistaken DOSM/Economy Ministry has already done some \"turun padang\" test runs to increase awareness about PADU. Seems like more work needs to be done on that bit since people still don't understand what PADU is...\nI'm more concerned that PADU will be prone to lots of cyber attacks since it'll become the central data reservoir of the Federal Government. Looking at our cybersecurity track record, that doesn't seem promising.\nEdit: Apologies, I think PADU has an algorithm that can flag your profile if your information doesn't add up. For example, if you're eligible for STR under LHDN, but have several personal luxury vehicles under your name with JPJ. Not sure how it works, but I can understand the other commenter's scepticism and concern with PADU/MyDigitalID."], ["And the demographic who needed the subsidies the most are probably the least likely demographic to be able to access, understand, fill up the necessary info correctly all electronically. Yes, this gov is a step-up from the previous one, but I can't help but to think they're constantly living in an elite, out-of-touch bubble from the common people on the ground. Smh."], ["Most of the project is jumping the gun.\nFor example, sibuk nak buat pengkalan data, tapi access to the Internet and country coverage are still below par. PDPA pun tak fully enforced.\nSibuk nak bawak masuk Tesla for sustainability, tapi jalan raya kat Malaysia Masih macam sampah\nSibuk nak buat High Speed Railway to attract tourist, tapi pedestrian accessibility still teruk.\nDia umpama Tepung takde, tapi dah sibuk nak bina kedai roti/bakery.", "Sad statement i read today\nThis whole country is a sham"], ["DOSM akan bukak kaunter di setiap daerah untuk bantu rakyat isi PADU", "Macam mana kerajaan buat pun kalau rakyat malas, tak jadi jugak, sama macam banci penduduk ramai ja tak isi"], ["Maybe there would be some outreach program to help rural folks with low digital literacy to do so. We're going to have to wait and see.", "But the times that been given is 3 months brah..ain't no way also I'm afraid of this people go in and get your information like do we believe the government servants???", "3 months is a long time in the hands of a group of committed people. For now I am going to remain optimistic.\nAnyway, do remember that your participation in PADU is entirely voluntary so it's really your choice to register or not.", "How is it voluntary when Rafizi said if you dont participate dont blame us if you don't get subsidy???"], ["I dont understand with people saying the wont fill PADU. It will be used no matter what, but do you want updated information or what ever the fuck the 100+ government agencies have on you now."], ["tak minat aku nak isi. Maaf ye, nak suruh aku undi BN/PH ok. Tapi nak isi PADU ni, fuck off ye rafizi.", "But then you may not get subsidi wor", "downgraded to bezza long time ago. i'm willing to pay i what used to pay to fuel up my perdana 120 a week just to keep my name out of the database."], ["Reject Digital ID aka PADU.\nDo not let the government to have an easy tool to further control people.", "But... But... But... Later no subsidy wor, me no rich like u", "That is why should not have targeted subsidy. Just float the petrol with some level of subsidy like what Najib did previously. All this new db and implementation is just new way for them create contract for new bunch of cronies. What makes t20 not so eligible for subsidies when this people are t1 asking you all to pay their high salary + allowances + the subsidy?", "Sadly people will not going to realize it, we most likely will be down voted here even."], ["My opinion on their endgame: With enough data you can translate it to information that you can utilize to manipulate people. AKA like what CCP is doing. So of course lah that is the price that they are willing to sacrifice. This is one dystopian bullshit."], ["https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/amp/category/nation/2022/11/08/invoke-staff-will-get-shares-when-company-is-listed-says-rafizi/"]]}
{"title": "Tax the rich to fund healthcare for the poor, says ex-MP", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uwmlv/tax_the_rich_to_fund_healthcare_for_the_poor_says/", "num_comment": 15, "flairlabel": ["Economy & Finance"], "header": "PSM chief Dr Michael Jeyakumar Devaraj says wealth is captured by the very rich, while the average factory worker\u2019s wages have increased by only 1.4 times since 1970.", "comments": [["OK. Now define what is considered 'rich'", "People who are rich are just those who accumulated significantly more wealth that he average person, although a factory worker would probably be considered below average. A rich person in Malaysia would probably be asset rich.\nI\u2019m pretty sure it\u2019s easy to define it in Malaysia seeing how the middle class is basically below poverty relative to developed world standards of living.", "People who are rich are just those who accumulated significantly more wealth that he average person\nLOL I know this. I'm looking for an actual percentile. Top 20? Top 10? Top 5? Top 1?", "I mean you asked rich, that would be anyone who\u2019s top 30%. As in someone who has the means to accumulate wealth although you wouldn\u2019t be rich enough to be a factory owner. It only takes rm2million + in assets to be in the top 1% and many have that net worth but are by no means living it up especially if you consider that they have debt and family.\nI know it sounds obvious but that\u2019s a disjointed idea of how wealth is distributed among the population. Since you could be an engineer for petronas and still be living paycheck to paycheck since your credit would be good enough to hold down a lot of debt compared to someone who makes 5k as a freenlancer. One guy is going to be categorically richer under a capitalist framework in 10 years compared to the other.\nA factory owner like the post is describing is considered \u201cvery rich\u201d, thats below the 1% already. We\u2019re talking about 0.x or even 0.0X%. A factory owner needs a rolling expense of millions and there are probably less that a few thousand Malaysians that even exists that can afford that.", "Those professionals that earn MYR20k lah of course, not those MEGAH Holdings CEOs, because cannot touch cronies. /s\nJoke aide, did he not know that we technically already are? like 30%, I think this is just a populist clamoring trying to gain support via people emotion instead of their brain."], ["U tax too much, they move their money out. Equlibrium needs to be reached"], ["Dia sembang kencang macam ni memang best sebab belum jadi gov.\nLet's say PSM became government in the future, the dialogue/excuses will all be similar to the predecessor. (e.g kita tak mampu, or nanti investor lari, or saya janji tu tahun 2023)\nPenat dah kena tipu dengan politician. You want to survive as a normal citizen? You need to do it yourself.", "Hahaha betul la tu nothing new pun. PMX banyak kali kempen ceni"], ["Always salah rich people.\nnever salah corrupt people.\nwhen you ask to tax rich, M40/T20 kena.\nCorrupt people got more money to corrupt. B40 get nothing, the cycle repeat.\nUnless we reduce corruption by 80-90% I will never agree with taxing the rich."], ["Salary 10k live in KL have 3 kids Salary 5k save 2k in kampong Tax the guy with 10k because he is rich? Betul ka ni?"], ["If the poor has bad eating habits that contributes to health problems, then why should the rich pay for it. Look at the diabetes statistics, its crazy high and not okay.", "It could be that bad and low quality food are much cheaper than their healthier counterpart.", "So if someone speeding on highway and crash the car, we proceed to blame the government for not building wider road or blame others for driving too slow?\nEating bad is an option, its you decide to eat fried oily foods instead of more healthier option like stir fry or steam, its you decide to drink high sugary drinks instead of plain water, its you to decide not to exercise.\nTake myself as example. On work days I do OMAD (one meal a day) and 16hours fasting when not working. I exercise 3-5 times a week, half an hour each time. My BMI is around 19-19.5. Sure its the cheap low quality foods problem and not a personal commitment issue. Before you pointing the finger, look at your hands 3 fingers are pointing at yourself.", "Eating bad is an option, its you decide to eat fried oily foods instead of more healthier option like stir fry or steam, its you decide to drink high sugary drinks instead of plain water, its you to decide not to exercise.\nEven if they want to just cook at home, the cost of good produce is still much more expensive than the less quality produce. Basically, whether you're eating out or cooking at home, it's generally much more expensive for poor people to do so in ways that keep them healthy\nOn work days I do OMAD (one meal a day) and 16hours fasting when not working. I exercise 3-5 times a week, half an hour each time. My BMI is around 19-19.5\nEven if they do this, they can't really afford to break their fast with sufficiently healthy and nutritious meal each time.\nSo yeah, B40 do need assistances in affording healthy food", "It\u2019s exactly this amof"]]}
{"title": "Guys, how much do you spend per month for food as a working bachelor in KL?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18v0tjk/guys_how_much_do_you_spend_per_month_for_food_as/", "num_comment": 5, "flairlabel": ["Food"], "header": "I am working in KL and living in Bangsar South area. I spend around RM 700-800 per month for food. How much do you spend?", "comments": [["As a single working bachelor in KL, I spend between 1.5k to 2k per month on food per month.\nI eat out everyday and every meal, i dont cook."], ["RM1500 for 3, breakfast at home, just kopi and bread, lunch rm20, dinner is simple home cooked. Fruits and some veges are home grown. Protein is mostly kampong chicken eggs and a bit of chicken meat from Jaya\nWe buy lots of full cream UHT milk, yogurt, digestive biscuits, bread, peanut butter, dairy butter, kaya to fill our stomachs when hungry.\nWe lose weight initially and now we are in healthy BMI 20-22"], ["Quiet a lot. I eat chicken breasts for protein, so it's usually RM16-RM18 per two days. Add in milk, Greek yogurt, protein powder...\nI haven't quantified it yet, but my monthly RM2.5k-ish credit card bill can't be just because of my bills \ud83d\ude12"], ["About 2000 for a family of 6 for a month. Buy in bulk and cook. Lunch also tapau leftover food or make salad. Eat out maybe once or twice for lunch. Weekends usually the roti canai breakfast and nasi lemak lunch. Cost of living up and up. Salary sama saje."]]}
{"title": "How was your 2023?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18v131f/how_was_your_2023/", "num_comment": 8, "flairlabel": [], "header": "View Poll", "comments": [["2019 - depression\n2020 - covid, cat died\n2021 - being used, another cat went missing and never return\n2022 - horrible break up, got sick (separate event, not because of the break up)\n2023 - started off the year depressed, rn is still in limbo. It could have gone better, but it is definitely the best compared to past four years", "May the year gets better for you homie , mine was pretty bad as well this year hoping to get better treatment this coming year"], ["Great year, although it started rough this early on, but this year makes me grow a lot.\nLooking forward for 2024."], ["Started off bad and ended just OK. I lost my dad at the start of the year and had never lost anyone close to me before. Still grieving and decided that I would travel more because life is short you Know? I did more travelling than I had envisioned. Company also retrenched lots of staff in the middle of the year but thankfully I wasn\u2019t one of them.\nIf 2023 was a year of grief, I\u2019m hoping 2024 will be my year for recovery."], ["Honestly one of the memorable years of my life. Finally got to see Muse last July."], ["Had a rough start this year, but managed to make some changes that turn things around at the second half of the year. I changed my job, went on several trips, which is really what I enjoyed this year. But my social life is still dull as last year, really find it tough this year to vent out my feelings or meet someone new that can truly vibe with you."], ["Quite a rollercoaster. Rough start, lost my cat at the end of last year. Went on a few months grieving period. Got another cat, then another cat got sick (not the new one), met the love of my life, and never felt happier. I explored and experienced so many things in the span of 8 months than I ever did in the years I've lived. Certain circumstances suck, but it all has led me here, i'm eternally grateful. Never knew loving someone and being loved could be just so.... warm. Here's to you baby. I know you'll read this :26561:\ud83e\udde1"], ["Nothing really eventful, the most memorable event that happens to me this year is a tarantula spider crawl into my ear when I went off road jungle tracking. Oh man that hurt."]]}
{"title": "Why are museums so underwhelming in Malaysia?", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18u9no5/why_are_museums_so_underwhelming_in_malaysia/", "num_comment": 102, "flairlabel": ["Tourism & Travel"], "header": "I visit museum whenever I visit a new city or county. With Malaysia, I find the museum really underwhelming. Even the national museum is not really up to standarde for a National museum. I been to museum in US, Europe, China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Singapore and Thailand, Vietnam.\nI say Malaysia museum of all sorts are so underwhelming here.I don't see much attention to detail or story telling. Only walls of information like a powerpoint presentation or copy paste of general knowledge. There is no artifact on display or just badly curated.\nI love history, arts, and culture. I truly wish Malaysia step up it's game.", "comments": [["We don't have the habit of preserving our culture and history as a society unfortunately. Agree with you that our museums are really bad, doesn't inspire and feel \"museum\" enough\nOnly one I'd say that feels contemporary enough to be an actual museum in Peninsula is probably the Bank Negara Museum. Otherwise the newly opened Borneo museum on Kuching is also up there!", "Been to the bank negara museum, can confirm it's quite good\nThat said, maybe I'm biased but the old Kuching museum has a certain charm to it, but yes it's not up to par with more modern museums", "I think the comment above was referring to the newly opened Borneo Cultures Museum in Kch, it\u2019s world class!", "Yes, I am aware, but I have never been to the new one since leaving Malaysia. While the old Brooke era museum is full of childhood memories for me\nWould love to visit the new museum at some point in the future tho", "Ah woops, gotchu. I think the old Brooke era Sarawak Museum is being refurbished at the moment, but if you haven't been back in a while, you should also add the (kind of new) Brooke Gallery in Fort Margherita to your list.", "I actually came back about a few months back but just stayed in Sibu for two weeks to see my fam lmao", "Would like to piggyback the top comment but the Islamic Arts Museum in KL is incredibly beautiful and one of the best experiences in KL. Not that this is important, I\u2019m not Muslim myself but have visited this museum multiple times.\nBonus. Its a great place for dates!", "i see you JAKIM :26562:", "Singaporean here - I just went to bank Negara museum and several days ago and gotta say that my kids did have fun. But plenty of interactive stuff broke/wasn\u2019t working so that\u2019s a huge bummer for my kids", "The last sentence is so typically Malaysia haha"], ["Mostly my opinion:\nMalaysia, through most of its history, stone construction has not been the norm. Mostly the locals use wood. So we don't have lots of preserved indigenous artifacts beyond a few hundred years. On top of that, much of Malaysia's ancient history is oral and tribal. Much of it has probably been lost. There is a relative lack of things like Buddhist, Muslim or Hindu constructions that are very old unlike say Thailand, India, Vietnam and China.\nOn top of that Malaysia has a history of \"borrowed\" culture going back in history. Arab traders bringing Muslim religion and language. The Indians and Chinese too. Then came the waves of Western colonialists. In this sense, Malaysia has been a \"melting pot\" being at the center of many sea trade routes.\nEven things we consider \"traditional\" in Malaysia like the royalties etc appear to borrow heavily from traditions that are not indigenous. (Sultan, for example, is an arabic term) The Majapahit empire, for example, is Javanese-Hindu and is not centered around the current political boundaries of Malaysia. Then there is the influence from Thailand that is primarily Buddhist.\nIn a sense, this doesn't blend well with the current political ruling class that like to craft a narrative that Malaysia as predominantly Muslim and thus being Muslim is somehow central to Malaysia's past. History would point out a much richer and more diverse origins of Malaysian tradition and culture but this is actually quite politically inconvenient.\nThis probably disconnects many Malaysians from things going back more than a few generations. This is probably reflected in the academics as well as how things get curated in museums.", "You're not lying. There is literally an UMNO Museum In Melaka, literally at the historical area below A Famosa and with the other museums.", "I went there earlier this month and that particular museum is probably not gonna last that much longer. I would be suprised if it still exist beyond 2024.", "Why? Genuinely curious", "2nd floor isn't open to public, not that it has anything good anyways. And I was the only person who went there for the day (as of 3pm based on the logbook). Also no more aircond, which is a sure sign they are dying.", "Ah i see. When I was in melaka a few years back I was there and wanted to enter but it was closed hahah", "And we also have to contend with the fact each state museum wants to house their own artefacts (which Malaysia in general has very limited amount to begin with). The State Museums sometimes have much better artefact collections than the National Museum.\nAnd ofc, there's also the obvious issue of funding. Malaysian Museums in general (rightfully) have very low admission fee. A lot of them you don't have to pay a single cent.", "Wish I can upvote you twice. Super true", "Man. I want to print this out and just hand it out to people. Multi-purpose answer for most Malaysia FAQs", "This is the right answer.", "This I believe is the real reason. Politics and religion."], ["Hopefully this could improve sooner than later.\nThe one in Kuching, Borneo Cultures Museum is amazing though. If you like museums, I think its worth a visit when you do visit Kuching. Being the newest built 'big' museum really do wonders. The facility inside is nice, clean and modern. I don't really have an eye for architecture, but from the looks of it, the architecture of the building itself is well designed as well. Could spend an entire day there if you actually go through the exhibits slowly and read through everything.", "i really love this museum too. i went there during their spirit showcase (im not sure if it's permanent or not). the vibe is amazing, the showcase is amazing, the layout inside is amazing, the interactive showcase is amazing as well. 10/10 would recommend.\nalso i went to islamic arts museum in kl couple months ago. while it's not as amazing as sarawak and has no interactive feature, the paintings and items on showcase are quite a curious sight to see too.\nand perhaps you might want to take your kids to klcc petrosains and planetarium kl if they're into interactive museums. my kids love those a lot.", "I can vouch for this. There's a lot of heart put into it, it's modern(as of right now), the museum is very interactive, there's a merchandise store, it's a good tourist attraction, the entrance fee is also pretty cheap. I spent like 4 hours there reading and going through every artifacts and taking tons and tons of pictures. Sadly, I didn't get to experience the last floor entirely because the museum was about to close. I will definitely go there again in the future. It's a good family visit too however children tend to get bored easily but even then, there is an interactive section, made for kids (and fun loving adults) so even kids would love the experience.\nIf you're visiting Kuching, make sure to go there. It's genuinely a good museum and the largest one in Malaysia too.", "The State Museums are all generally very good. Perak Museum, Kota Tinggi Museum, Stadhuys (and the museums surrounding it), Seri Menanti Museum, and so on."], ["I would say have you visited our museum in the late 80's or early 90's it would be a lot more interesting. I remember a room full of weapon relics like keris of all shape and sizes, musket and pistols used by the British army when they colonized our country, as well as a replica of tin mining ship the size of a car. Another fond memory I had was the longest rotan found in the jungle of Malaysia, it was like 400 meters long (I think lol), they fixate it on the ceiling of the showcase and have it looped around the room several dozen times to fit its massive length.\nVisited the museum again with an Australian friend like 15 years ago, that time the museum is already fallen into a sorry state. The room full of keris shrunk into a single cabinet, most showrooms are basically empty. Such a sad fate for a place that holds the many amazing things in the past.", "Yeah, all thanks to the legendary head curator, the late Shahrum Yub back then - he really has the passion to do his job. Read his interview once in Mastika about how his team handled the tomb of King Tut for \"Tombs Around The World\" and it already make me go wow. Those period was the peak of National Museum.\nIt takes both the leaders passion and the gov passion to return it in similar state again, which per current Malaysia gov standard...uhhhhh......"], ["The Islamic arts museum is REALLY good. Serious kudos to the management there. Highly recommend. But yeah Muzium Negara was so sad.", "Agree. Very comparable to the one I\u2019ve been to overseas.", "I love the Islamic Arts Museum. Easily one of my favourite museums of anywhere I've visited.", "And cheap too! RM7 for the permanent exhibit and RM4-6 for the rotational one. They're also the only centre for restoration in Semenanjung. Most museums use them for repairs and restoration. They also used to have art classes like calligraphy."], ["The Borneos Culture Museum in Kuching is pretty good. Went there last year and thoroughly enjoyed myself."], ["Many of the muzeums here were old and wasn't kept up with the latest technology. If you have the time, pleaee visit the relatively newly built Borneo Museum in Kuching, Sarawak. Some people say that it's even better than Muzium Negara"], ["Underfunded. Im guessing the only budget they get is for staff, electricity, water and keeping the place clean. Nothing more.", "Yep underfunded and most of the history stuffs are under appreciated as well in Malaysia.", "Let's normalise not saying \"stuffs\" folks"], ["I was at Islamic Art museum yesterday with my foreign friend. I was blown away cos it\u2019s a world class standard and he really liked it too."], ["Imo it\u2019s because Malaysian don\u2019t view Museums as interesting or a tourist attraction. Most Malaysians view museums as boring and only for history. The best Museum I\u2019ve been to is the National History Museum in London. We should have a cultural change to value art and history more."], ["It's easier for the politicians to control the masses if the masses do not learn from the past ;)", "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past"], ["Museums are what is known as sociological expressions, in that they act as cultural conduits linking present to past. They therefore tend to be very well established and appreciated in areas of the world where there is a strong sense of connecting past, present and future together to inform society.\nMalaysia as a whole is not very interested in its past except in niche scenarios ( like most Penangnite who are Chinese or Indians are very interested in Penang history from the early 17th century onwards ). Malaysia is more interested in ethnic identification, which may mean one is interested in looking at the past except in the case of Malaysia the ethnic identification is a legal entity as well so it becomes more a focus on the present and less about the past.\nAs a result, museums become less important. Cultural things of the current becomes more important, such as existing festivals and rituals ( it does not need the past to be valid ).", "Chat GPT ah bro \ud83d\ude02"], ["The artifacts are probably in British Museum /s\nJokes aside, even the buildings are not as appealing or majestic as museums in other countries. It is hard to attract tourists or locals to come and see them.\nShoutout to Museum of Islamic Arts tho, they are really nice."], ["Because it didn't match with our Arab descendant narrative."], ["Why bother with museums when you can see real-life dinosaurs roaming around us in daily life.\nIt's pretty easy to spot them really, they're the ones shouting ketuanan melayu."], ["When I went to the National Art Gallery in Malaysia, I couldn't help but imagine some government bureaucrat saying, \"we need an art museum like a serious country\" and so they came up with a really poor, half-assed imitation of a Western art museum.\nWhen I went to the Islamic Arts Museum I had the opposite impression. I felt like the backers authentically cared about showcasing the diversity of Muslim cultures around the world and through history and did something impressive.\nSmaller local museums similarly fall into two camps. There are some real hidden gems in different parts of the country, but then there are some pathetic misses."], ["I always thought muzium is very boring since I'm grow up in Malaysia, until one day i step into taiwan muzium."], ["Probably because we don't have a lot to preserve lmao. Try other museums instead of just tue national museum (like the perak man one) since our museums are split so many places"], ["You can try visiting the Malaysian Chinese Museum in Serdang. Ive been there earlier this year, and it is by far the best museum ive been to in Malaysia"], ["Our national arty gallery is pretty good tho"], ["Because real Malaysian heritage is shopping and eating. Look at the number of huge shopping malls"], ["keeping the people dumb is how 3rd worlds control their population.\nsmart citizens will change things, dumb citizens will follow along."], ["Really? Have you tried Dewan Rakyat?"], ["Cos Malaysians are very under-educated (by international standards) and basically extremely ignorant. Religious schools still teach evolution is fake\u2026so yeah\u2026cool level of general knowledge, guys..", "Religious schools still teach evolution is fake\nDo they? I came from SK Agama and did alot of religion study outside school in HS. The ustat and ustazah never said it's fake. They just did not mention it and ignored the question when asked. The best reply I ever got was \"wallahualam\".", "My and my wife religious schools were pretty aggressive that it wasn\u2019t true. This is retard-level education"], ["I hate malaysia museum"], ["You went to the wrong place? Go to the British museum as they nicked all the good stuff! /s"], ["Since we're all here anyway - are there any museums in the Klang Valley that redditors are impressed with?", "Islamic arts Museum. I reckon it's good because it's privately owned. Their collection is extensive.", "Which one ah", "Next to Masjid Negara", "Idk if it's in Klang valley but I loved the orang asli museum, I also dk if it's up to you guy's standard but yeah", "The one that\u2019s next to Muzium Negara? Pretty sure that counts as Klang Valley!\nIt focuses on OA craft and artwork, and is quite good in my opinion.\nOr did you mean the one at Ayer Keroh outside Melaka?", "This one actually https://www.google.com/maps/place/Muzium+Orang+Asli+Gombak+(MOAG)/@3.2942978,101.7295488,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x31cc3f1492d7133d:0x2ec3082898d10f95!8m2!3d3.2942924!4d101.7321237!16s%2Fm%2F03hn05r?entry=ttu/@3.2942978,101.7295488,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x31cc3f1492d7133d:0x2ec3082898d10f95!8m2!3d3.2942924!4d101.7321237!16s%2fm%2f03hn05r?entry=ttu)\ni just realized it says gombak in the name, so not klang valley sadly", "I think Gombak counts according to this:\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klang_Valley\nI wasn\u2019t aware of that one - will check it out as I live quite near. Thanks for the info!"], ["The Islamic art museum is pretty good"], ["Becos we never conquered any other countries and steal their treasures and we kena conquered and our treasures all at British museum.....", "Laughs in Singapore National Museum, Art Museum, Asian Civilisation Museum etc etc.\nBut no seriously Malaysia\u2019s museum is kinda underwhelming for a country this developed. It was strange to me that visiting museums is not part of the tour when visiting Malaysia."], ["Because all the good stuff were taken away by the colonizers when they were here hundred of years ago. If you have the chance to go to prominent museums in europe, you can see how much of our stuff were taken back there. Same thing happened to all the place where they colonized.", "Singapore's museums are really good tho, even their art ones.", "Because we got bajet to obtain exhibits mah. Collectors and owners also have peace of mind lending their objects to us because they know anything they lend will be secure and well-taken care of.", "The fuck you on about. Taipei and Seoul museums are nice. Also as others have said Singapore. Even Japan and their museums is about Japanese culture not so much about their colonizing past.", "Example, Klang bell, a 1200years old bell from bronze age found in klang. Taken by british and currently displayed in british museum. Also look at the database of british museum, around 3000 artifacts from malay peninsula alone in their collection.everything good were looted."], ["Our museums have only like 50 yrs of history compared to other countries, who tf wants to visit? Defo not me. All displaying cultural underwear and panties across different eras \ud83e\udd23\ud83e\udd23 as my dad likes to say in Cantonese \u201c\u770b\u4ec0\u4e48\u9a6c\u6765\u5e95\u88e4\u201d"], ["Suggest you try other things in Malaysia i.e food hunting. This museum stuff is so politically fucked up that it's not worth your time."], ["Idk, museum always seems like a creepy place. I went one in melaka, there was an empty cradle with a doll (probably) inside with voice of crying baby and angklong background music.\nAlso went to the terengganu one, there was this traditional clothes section. Put inside a small room that looks exactly like my late grandma\u2019s room. Also creepy. I hv the photo but it\u2019s buried too deep inside my gallery.\nEdit: also good idea by op but i dont think the price will be rm5 per entry anymore."], ["The Borneo Cultures Museum in Kuching is absolutely fantastic. Huge, excellent collection, modern design and great use of technology, interactive, very well curated. Though the Sabah State Museum in Kota Kinabalu is indeed rather sad."], ["because most of the museum worthy collection is privately owned and owners dont want to part with it"], ["Even the scammers knew elsewhere to rob"], ["Bro Kuching has the best museums here. Check them out."], ["You're pretty much describing the country."], ["Correct genealogy and accurate history interferes with the official world view"], ["If you haven't been, the Penang War Museum is my favorite museum ever, and I've been to many of them abroad."], ["I see many complaints. Any idea how to improve on the situation?"], ["Shout out to Terengganu State Museum which is for me quiet decent but not spectacular.\nI frequently went to museum in Malaysia and got laugh at doing that sometime haha."], ["I see. At least you guys still have a museum haha. I'm from Brunei and ours have been closed for 15 years under \"renovation\" but afaik nothing moved. Perhaps it can be a paranormal sighting spot or something."], ["They should bring back the Hantu exhibits honestly it was the multicultural learning experience memory I had in school"], ["You should go to Sarawak Museum. You may change your mind. I\u2019ve been to museums in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore and Korea. Sarawak\u2019s new museum tops it all imo"], ["It is and its below average since forever. It is always under budget and not up to date with the latest discoveries. It is saddening \u2639\ufe0f"], ["We didn't get to loot any nations so we just put any available local items on display even though we knew that it's kind of boring.\nLooted relics make other nations' museums so overwhelming"], ["The new Borneo museum is so cool, did you know the museum have a samurai sword owned by a Japanese general and was given as a \u201cpeace offering\u201d when the Japanese surrendered\nThat\u2019s so cool to me, I love weapons\nAlso if you love archaeology you can see the history of archeology in Sarawak since Niah Cave have the oldest human remains in Malaysia"], ["Yeah muzium negara is pretty bad. Went to the museum in melaka, it was way better and had more things to see."], ["Because malaysia's history is not as what it seems."], ["Tengah adjust2 history to 'educate' the kids lagi mah, cannot finalise lagi ni"], ["Im guessing it\u2019s simply we\u2019re generally not proud of our heritage and culture. Museum is where we showcase our history of heritage and culture. I\u2019ve been to Istanbul museum and Taiwan\u2019s, they really take pride on their rich history no doubt."], ["Islamic Art Museum KL is really good, you should visit it."], ["have u been to Sarawak muzium? very curious which state museum u have visited"]]}
{"title": "Not all DBKL car parks are free, says city hall - DBKL says surveillance will be stepped up in concentrated areas of parking touts, after car owner complains of a scratch on her car after refusing to pay.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18urum4/not_all_dbkl_car_parks_are_free_says_city_hall/", "num_comment": 2, "flairlabel": [], "header": "", "comments": [["When I read this, am I the only one who feels DBKL is a really corrupt scammy government agency. DBKL got millons from assessment fees and licenses and permits that businesses pay. Why the fuck are they subcontracting parking space management, I notice to \"an unnamed private company\"? Why can't they just be professional and apply the same consistent rules to parking everywhere? Instead now it is exposed how DBKL is mandi tahi together with kutu parking. Ain al Tahi should be the name of that area.\n\u201cThis car park is under the control of DBKL, and fees are applicable during office hours until 5pm. In addition, DBKL has contracted a private company to manage eight parking spaces as valet services after office hours,\u201d the statement said."], ["It\u2019s about freaking time"]]}
{"title": "Potentially moving to Malaysia in the next few years.", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18uyh3j/potentially_moving_to_malaysia_in_the_next_few/", "num_comment": 19, "flairlabel": ["Tourism & Travel"], "header": "Hello, hope this post is allowed. Looked at the rules and didn\u2019t see anything against it and looked at the previous posts and the wiki section but didn\u2019t see anything that really answered my questions. Had a few questions/discussion topics I was hoping somebody/ies might people able to answer/shed some light on.\nWe are looking to semi-retire and move to Malaysia (or potentially other similar countries) and wanted to get some additional info about areas that might fit us and about life there.\n1) What areas would be best for us? We like very urban areas, wife is from Tokyo, we would like to be able to not need a car and just be able to walk to everything. My wife is a bit bougee so it would be nice to be in a higher end area, but not a deal breaker. Would also love to be at or very near a beach. Would love to know best cities and/or neighborhoods?\n2) Weather, Looks like the weather is pretty decent although a little higher then would be perfect. Is there a good place if I would prefer 25c weather?\n3) Real estate, we would be looking at buying and wanted to know if that is generally a good idea. Initially looking at condos but read that they are not a great investment, would a house on land be better? Does property appreciate in Malaysia? Would it be better just to rent?\n4) Language, I only speak English and my wife speaks English and Japanese, obviously we would work to learn the language, but it seems English is very common as well. Would we be able to get buy with English well? Are some cities more or less friendly to English?\nAny other important insights would be appreciated as well!", "comments": [["Check out Mont Kiara, Desa Park City and KLCC areas of you want convenience and bougie living in Kuala Lumpur. You can try Penang too, but I'm not too familiar.\n25c is going to be pretty tough unless you're in Genting, Frasers Hill, Camerons. We're in the tropics and it's 30c and up during the day.\nProperty is pretty expensive now, but there's a bit of a glut, so there's room for negotiation.\nYou can get away with English in most developed areas.", "Thanks appreciate it. Seems Mont Kiara keeps coming up. Are you familiar with Johor Bahru?", "Mont Kiara is very cosmopolitan and expat friendly. Too dense for my liking, but might fit your needs.\nI work in Singapore, but have not been tempted to visit JB (one train away). Haven't been there in 15 years.\nI hear its developing quickly, with train access directly to Singapore. Might be worth a look if proximity to sg excites you. Worth a look, but not enough to sway a long term decision tbh...", "Ex expats here. Look up TTDI. Way greener, quieter and friendlier than the expensive and concrete sprawl that Mont Kiara is.", "Will do appreciate it!"], ["What areas would be best for us? We like very urban areas, wife is from Tokyo, we would like to be able to not need a car and just be able to walk to everything. My wife is a bit bougee so it would be nice to be in a higher end area, but not a deal breaker. Would also love to be at or very near a beach. Would love to know best cities and/or neighborhoods?\nThere is a large Japanese/Korean expat community in Mont Kiara and Hartamas (both in Kuala Lumpur). Being mostly poised for expats, things are close by and a car is not needed. But you will be 100% living in that bubble.\nIf you want beach, you can look at Penang island, which I assume has also a decent Japanese expat crowd. But I am not that familiar.\nWeather, Looks like the weather is pretty decent although a little higher then would be perfect. Is there a good place if I would prefer 25c weather?\nLOL not gonna happen. Only highlands or places closer to jungles have this kind of temperature. Both are contradictory to your wants of an urban setting.\nReal estate, we would be looking at buying and wanted to know if that is generally a good idea. Initially looking at condos but read that they are not a great investment, would a house on land be better? Does property appreciate in Malaysia? Would it be better just to rent?\nLanded houses appreciate better. However will they keep appreciating? I don't know. However it is hard to find a landed house in KL (Mont Kiara or Hartamas) that are walking distance to many things. If you stay at Mont Kiara, then condos are the name of the game. Malaysia is a CAR society. It is hot and humid, and our public transport is not great.\nThere are also minimum purchase prices for foreigners. For example, you cannot buy a house lower than RM1mil (though many condos and landed houses in Mont Kiara are probably higher than RM1mil, so it might not be a problem).\nLanguage, I only speak English and my wife speaks English and Japanese, obviously we would work to learn the language, but it seems English is very common as well. Would we be able to get buy with English well? Are some cities more or less friendly to English?\nYes you'd get by with English in the Klang Valley area of Malaysia\nLastly, check out the MM2H program. Good luck.", "Thanks! Lots of great info and I will definitely check out MM2H. Appreciate the insight!", "You'd really need to check the visa and financial requirements under MM2H carefully, it is RM40,000 per month income and RM1 million fixed deposit.", "Yeah I was reading about it and probably not what I would want to do. Looks like the money you put in has to stay in there as well. You can use some money to buy a house but you still have a minimum account level."], ["Since your wife is Japanese and likes being boogie. You can consult our resident Japanese rockstar GACKT. He runs a consultancy here that assists people (especially Japanese) who want to move to Malaysia.\nhttps://businessreport.ctoscredit.com.my/oneoffreport_api/single-report/malaysia-company/1162313V/GACKT-IKEDA-ASIA-BRIDGE-PARTNERZ-SDN-BHD-\nNote: PM for the phone number. Not gonna share it here. The fanboys and fangirls might go crazy."], ["25\u00b0C, urban, near a beach - sounds like Hong Kong to me, not Malaysia", "Maybe so but certainly not a similar cost of living. HK is about the same as where I live in CA"], ["Difficult to not have a car in Malaysia, wherever you are, as public transport isn\u2019t like in Singapore or other countries. 25C would be difficult too, only in highland areas which are mostly tourist spots. English isn\u2019t a problem in the biggest cities of KL, PJ, Ipoh or Georgetown. Penang island sounds like it would tick off a lot of your requirements, condo prices aren\u2019t rising so much now due to oversupply, and it\u2019s near the beach area, although a car would be necessary. Also a big expat community, and is quite urban.", "Thanks appreciate it! Definitely don\u2019t mind having a car just like that urban lifestyle. Yeah I was hoping for 25C but I guess only potentially possible in a few more remote areas. Do most places have central AC?"], ["Hi, US retiree with a Japanese wife here.\nYou can check out my post on retiring in Malaysia. It should answer most of your questions. Happy to address any additional one.\nPOST", "Awesome, I definitely appreciate it. Maybe we will be neighbors one day!"], ["Get an affordable car, Malaysia has lots of nature to explore. Only accessible by car."], ["I\u2019m an expat living in Penang. Penang is nice and urban, but it would be difficult to find something bougee where you can also walk to everything. Getting a Grab or buying a scooter is an option (I have a car). Beaches in Penang are not great (polluted water, lots of jellyfish). Hot and humid, you won\u2019t find 25C. Almost everyone speaks English here. I\u2019ve been here 3 years and don\u2019t frequently have an issue communicating with anyone. I would rent first and then buy if you decide to go that route."]]}
{"title": "Any good places to celebrate new year in KL? I heard KLCC cancelled the fireworks", "href": "/r/malaysia/comments/18v0bmt/any_good_places_to_celebrate_new_year_in_kl_i/", "num_comment": 6, "flairlabel": [], "header": "Would really appreciate it guys for suggestions \ud83d\ude4f", "comments": [["desa park city. come early for dinner. lots of drinking pubs if you are a boozer.", "Was there christmas, parking is problem", "During the NYE celebrations, you can't even drive thru the guard houses because of jams.\nSo come early to park at outside shop lot front public carparks and walk like most people."], ["Heard that TRX and Lalaport are hosting events", "NYE mission : To flood TRX"], ["Klcc just want save money\nPavilion\nSunway velocity\nTrx"]]}