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[ [ "That's why I drive shit car, people scratch also I won't notice", "Problems solved?", "The scratch mark or the shit on the car?", "Yes" ], [ "I would park in a legal car park and walk a bit further rather than give money to these kutus. Or use public transport/Grab.\nIf everyone stops giving in to these pests, they'll be starved of their income.\nBut as most Malaysians prefer to take the easy way out, then by all means, go ahead and pay the 15 bucks extortion fee.\nThe problem will always be here because of people willing to pay out of both convenience and fear.", "It happens on legal parking spots too", "You mean double charges, one to the real owner, another to these parasites ?", "Yes, sometime you see those popular places where you can pay just using app. Some asshole will approach you and ask you pay like RM20.\nWhen you say you already paid using app, they say the app is for parking, the RM20 for \"security\".", "motherfuckers..., entrepreneurship and gangsterism makes great enterprise, but wait, that's extortion.", "you called it beautifully", "That’s just a protection racket", "These are legal public parking spots. Usually by day pay using app and night is free but then these mofos come out to extort. Authorities unfortunately also kerja 9-5. This issue has been ongoing for over a decade, be it city centre or suburbs.", "Agree, the authorities should clamp down on this after-hours activity by the parking kutus.", "There was an incident in the past where they got reported and the ‘collector’ got fined with summons. Now not sure", "They will ask for money on a legal car park too.", "I mean parking inside a building or a closed car park space, not legal street parking.", "From the picture, it's along Jalan Sultan Ismail, next to the Damascus shop. There are VERY limited parking at the back. The nearest \"a bit\" further parking would be Pavilion. Looks like at night and she just wanna grab some food. All the power to you, but it doesn't seem like she have much choice at that given time." ], [ "Our police is driven by social media. If the news is big enough they will take action. I believe the news will blow up if you catch a person actively damaging your car in full HD." ], [ "I drive a cheap car but put a nice number plate. Most times they just say oh cantek nombor keta ye. I just walk away pretending not to hear because don't want them to even initiate conversations or ask for money. So far so good it worked to scare them off. I don't mind to pay for valet parking and other proper privately owner car parks but just not to touts or gangster jaga keta." ], [ "Pay 15 or I scratch your car! Sometimes these fellas are asking for a beating.", "Ya I once got so mad after he said want to scratch my car for refusing to pay him. I went over to him, moved his chair next to my car. Told him, baik you duk sini jaga keta ku. You pun cari makan aje. Kalo I balik tgk keta Kena gores calar, you tau je la. You org satu jln jgn ingat nak cari mkn kat cni sminggu. Bukannya you org parking berlesen.", "I like this response", "Because depending on the parking lot arrangements, can ask bus kilang to wait and park overnight daily. Force their own hand to call for majlis perbandaran to remove illegal vehicles parked and so on. So eventually they slap their own face. Whoever that operates will come apologise since their own periuk nasi affected. Monthly can be from RM 15k - RM 50k depending on how hot the location is.", "I wonder if we can beat people up who want to damage our property as self defense in the eye of the law.\nLike one dude is approaching my car with a coin, I prevent him from getting near my car but he refused to walk away and so I beat him up to protect my car.", "You versus all 3-4 of them? Good luck Mr Ip Man", "Maybe just take video and call police , nothing good fighting violence with violence. I just hope our abang police will do something", "Technically if you send them to hospital, they can’t calar ur car. I hope you’re good at leg kicks lol" ], [ "One effective way is to not go where such activity happened. This should force the businesses to force the local city council to act because businesses pay for permits to operate.\nIf businesses can co-operate to protect their customers then customers should walk away with their money.\nOr customers just pay for the \"protection\"." ], [ "go scratch other cars that paid them the rm15", "Berat sama dipikul, ringan sama dijinjing. Right!" ], [ "Freaking hate these thugs, too bad it's scary for a female driver to not give in when you drove across town for half an hour for an appointment and found out when you already there. I pray that they go to hell" ], [ "Park a tesla. Sacrifice your tesla. The car records 24/7 surround view. Report police with evidence clear as day", "You think the police would actually take action? You sweet summer child.", "Tangkap depan, lepas belakang", "IF police give a crap", "RIP to your tesla 200k. They don't give a rats ass about this petty crime." ], [ "Get a real job, you bum!" ], [ "Find the person who did this and do the same to the face" ], [ "Over at where I stayed, there's a Maybank and also a police station nearby. Walking distance. Park outside Maybank, public parking spot, always got one guy will come and ask for money cos we park there. I asked my dad once that isn't it free? He told me just do it even tho it's Rm1 cos we don't want any trouble as in like causing a fight or whatsoever. And no that fella doesn't jaga parking there cos it's a public parking space to begin with. My dad just say, you just help when you can cos the person that ask for money there is a homeless and sleeps there too.\nThere's also an instance where we went somewhere, open air parking, no sign indicating that it's private and have to pay to park. Right after we exit the car, a guy approached us and ask for Rm5 and said it's for parking. We paid and as we were walking off, my dad told me this one jaga parking but illegal. He said he'll pay once and no more. It's better to pay this once than not paying and walk away. My dad is a one time bad experience and no more next time kind of guy.", "i don't understand this at all", "Pay once to save you the trouble and just don't go back there to put yourself back into the same situation knowing it's gonna happen. If you don't wanna pay, get back into your car and leave.", "Thanks for the tl;dr" ], [ "If you can afford it go take a taxi/e-taxi.", "Your brain is like your username", "Take the train lah. It's in Bukit Bintang after all." ], [ "It appears they are learning from Indonesia" ], [ "They’re here to stay. Just pay them, Grab over or stay home." ] ]

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[ [ "accessing the Internet via TMNet dial-up. Anyone remember babyrina? 😏\nthe CM is Koh Tsu Koon from Gerakan. Since they're part of BN, okay lah\nwe would buy pirated game DVDs from malls, usually at the topmost floor. The one in Bukit Jambul Complex goes for RM12-RM15 per DVD\nBas Kuning ftw", "Bukit jambul complex omg. My fellow penangite I presume. I used to buy my pc game CDs from there. Good memories circling the top floor finding for my fav games during the holidays", "Yup, Penangite here! Of course I have fond memories of BJC (I was there back when there's an ice skating rink at the ground floor), but my most nostalgic CD/DVD shop would always be that place at Komtar (kinda hard to describe the location though lol).\nAlso back then there's a florist shop in Pulau Tikus that sells old PC games with their thick manuals.", "Babyrina, we sure have cum a long way :26554::26554::26554:", "Internet was introduced. Netscape navigator and yahoo paved the way. Mirc and icq happened and yes babyrina and Ckg Suraya were two staple names amongst the teenagers that time 🤣", "Mirc and icq\nAnd MSN Messenger!" ], [ "Still hectic as ever around Kota Raya and Petaling Street, just more foreigners around and lots of homeless near CM." ], [ "Malaysia good in preserving culture.\nPot hole\nCross the road sesuka hati\nNot maintain buildings\nNot friendly predestination walkway\nDouble park\nProton wira" ], [ "All the cars seen are considered a shitbox today.\nAll the bikes mostly remain the same, small capchai dominated by ex5." ], [ "Also, potholes 🤣" ], [ "Video is going to be 26 yrs old. Half of 90s and 00s are entering 30s and 20s respectively. Holy...." ] ]

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[ [ "Yes, this dogshit.\nI believe, -daily limited to reset once -internet issue -no old password\nOr app maintenance. The app is just a failure.", "Gosh and my current manager needs us to create an account now 💀 this is so silly omg", "All good, almost all Malaysian knows the Maybank efficiency.", "Lol I hope she will", "I can confirm the 1 limit password reset per 24hr thing, should put on the list.. Shitty app" ], [ "wait till u see the UOB app man, i genuinely hate it so much from every aspect", "They didn't have the email feature like what Citibank did. A total downgrade after their acquisition.", "I raise you Public Bank's. It's dog shit." ], [ "I wonder why they limit password to only 12 letters, coz usually stronger passwords are longer. Yea i get it i can make strong passwords with 12 chars only but would it be also better if can make it long as well.", "Right? That's so silly too", "cut cost ma... 13 letters got ghost pulak. what can do?", "In properly stored password it is hashed before it being stored into database. Hashes has static length so no matter how long your passwords is it always have the same length.", "CIMBClicks have a higher character limit but they don't allow copy-pasting your password in their Android app because of security.", "That’s the opposite of security" ], [ "They still run on old legacy system that built on COBOL, hence the limiting characters and options for a modern secure password.", "Not surprising. COBOL developers are highly sought after by banks, tax agencies etc." ], [ "yes. the fking password is ridiculously short for a BANK\nmy shitposting twitter account has more security" ], [ "Yo bro. I also had this problem, went to contact their staff and they told me to create the new password on their website instead of the app. It actually worked for me.\nHope this helps" ], [ "Start a using @ 0 4 $ in the password.. if you want to maintain the old password, but not same as old password Example P@$$w0rd" ], [ "Yup I quit when reaching this step" ], [ "Same issues here, been trying to open account since last month, posted 1star Google Play review, they asked to me to contact then via Twetter and told me to go to maybank branch when I asked then to fix the app registation they were like 'Trust me bro, just go to the Maybank branch', Freaking lazy Dev.\nAlso what's up with the shitty password guidelines? 12 Characters limit, really? Even my Password Manager told the generated password for MAE has a poor security, its also prevent users to use Passphrase due to character limits. Latest Password guidelines recommends length limit of at least 64 characters to allow people to use Passphrase Like Diceware which is strong but easily remembered password if you wanna know more check out this video!" ] ]

[ "History" ]

[ [ "Based on my estimation, with the the Sultan Abdul Samad building's clock tower as reference, this picture is probably taken somewhere on the hill where the current Chin Woo Stadium stands, or the current location of Merdeka 118 tower.\nIf you zoom in the photo, you can see some of the buildings in the middle hase chinese architecture on its roof (dragon sculpture on the roof). That row of buildings are probably the current Chinatown of KL.\nYou can also see the old Central Market building on the left near the coconut trees." ], [ "Which part of KL is this?", "That clock tower is defo Dataran Merdeka" ], [ "I wonder how many of the buildings still stand?" ] ]

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[ "Tourism & Travel" ]

[ [ "I just read a thread in r/travel by a woman who was traveling in Barcelona and was asked out to tea by a random stranger. She declined, but someone mentioned it’s a scam where you go out and are eventually presented with a huge bill.", "\"She was about to get teabagged in Barcelona...\"", "I've heard of this, on a Youtube video on a type of scam in Beijing.\nIn the video the mat salleh tourist was approached by a Chinese person who spoke English and said they were a tourist too, claiming to be from another part of China, who then asked them if they wanted to have lunch together or something like that, with the scam being that just like in Barcelona they'd be presented with a huge bill." ], [ "if those who come and ask for money giving you sad stories then yea its a scam.\nAs for inviting you for tea or a drink at a nearby coffee stall, so far in malaysia we dont have such scam yet, thry cant bring you to a kopitiam and get you charged for rm50 for a coffee. But still, just reject for your own safety.", "The “teashop” scam is here in Malaysia.\nIt works thru chat and dating apps. Not sure about in real life approach.\nThey will ask to meet up. And will ask you to meet at bars or similar. And ask you to buy very expensive drinks.\nStay safe.", "Ah, same scam in other Asian countries I think, the classic teahouse scam" ], [ "If anybody looks to you for money or randomly asking you out for tea, it's most likely a scam. They'll put on sad face, wear dirty clothes and look pitiful to play with your emotions. Locals don't entertain random strangers like that, do be careful." ], [ "The second one is probably a scam. It happened to me too. A man on a bike asked me if I'm a foreigner and speak English and I said yes. He said he needed money because he forgot his wallet. He only has his phone. I asked him why doesn't he use his phone to call a friend to help him? Or he can use his bike and ride back home. Then he left angry." ], [ "Most likely you’re targeted because you don’t look like a local." ], [ "Dude’s so ugly his camera thinks his face is NSFW and blurred it out.", "Lol take my upvote" ], [ "I had a similar experience in Seoul when some random dude on the subway asked if i'd like to get a beer with him.. i declined as i was on the last train rushing back to Incheon and I wouldnt be able to find my way back on my own.\nNo idea if it was a scam or not in my case, but the invitation seemed genuine at that time.", "Yeah no, thats predatory behavior\nI believe its similar in Japan whereif you agree to go with someone after the last train went away is how they’re getting you to sleep at his home\nIts definitely not a good idea to accept it" ], [ "Scam and vigilante more\nSorry it happen to you\nU probably stand out a lot since it is foreigner and u are soloing travelling , best be careful and dont go out at 11pm onward", "Yeah, thanks and also I think my backpack says it all, definitely became more vigilant after that" ], [ "Asking money usually scam but I think it's normal to invite tourist to have a tea or coffee if they already intended to go for a tea prior to meeting the tourist. Quite common in Penang. Don't think it's a scam." ], [ "There’s a guy who claimed he’s from Dubai and asked if I’m a foreigner. I said yes and he asked to show my country currency to him while he showed me his USD. Dubai uses dirham and not USD. meanwhile, his partner keep telling us to put our hotel names in her phone. Sure as hell dodgy" ] ]

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[ [ "Malaysia is not ready for meritocratic practices in its education system, according to Parti Sosialis Malaysia chairman Dr Michael Jeyakumar Devaraj.\nHe said a sudden shift to meritocracy could exacerbate political and social unrest if it resulted in professional courses being filled with an overwhelming majority of non-Bumiputera students.\n“Any system must be fair to all. This is also not something that is politically feasible or acceptable. It’s going to cause a lot of unhappiness,” he told FMT in an exclusive interview.\nProposals for university admissions to be based on merit have arisen out of discontent with the current quota system by which non-Malays from lower economic backgrounds have missed out on opportunities for higher education.\nTo be fair, I think the Dr. is just pointing out the sad reality that many in the public sphere of Malaysia today probably won't be ready for a meritocratic education system (or as close to meritocracy as it can be), not that he's personally against a meritocratic system.\nHell, not too long ago in 2018, there was huge rally in KL because the conservative forces in this country don't agree with Malaysia ratifying a UN treaty calling for an end to all forms of racial discrimination.\nAnti ICERD rally: So, what's the estimate?\nWhat would happen if such a laudable policy was simply proposed today? The Unity government would be criticized left, right and center for being 'anti-Malay' and 'taking away' Bumiputera rights, and the gullible will believe in this narrative.", "I think this is something that some people here on Reddit cannot appreciate and comprehend. While most people on this subreddit want social reforms and eradication of race-based rhetoric, mathematically the entire r/malaysia is only a drop in the ocean of Malaysia’s population, most of whom are still stuck in the ethnic dogmas.\nAt one event after Belanjawan 2024, the organisers made it clear that they were pushing for the government to introduce the GST or the VAT. When Anwar got up on stage for his keynote speech, he said that reforms “must be gradual and sequential” as doing the opposite would only raise the ire of the people and perhaps burden them. OP already gave good examples on the reasons the Malay electorate quickly turned on Pakatan the first time it took over the government.\nRealistically, we can’t change people’s mindsets in a snap of a finger. And the government ultimately has to follow the tide as it needs to stay in power, lest there would be a prolonged political instability. America took over a century to do away with racial discrimination practices, and it was only less than two decades ago that it legalised same-sex marriage.", "America took over a century to do away with racial discrimination practices\nTbf if something is not achievable within our lifetime, it might as well be impossible / pointless.", "if it resulted in professional courses being filled with an overwhelming majority of non-Bumiputera students\ni kindda agree if people have this assumption set as default. but we have done this before and it goes the other way around really badly. :26561:", "Interesting! Could I get some sources on that?", "https://www.dapmalaysia.org/all-archive/English/2002/may02/bul/bul1598.htm\nDAP welcomes the move by the government to implement a selection system based completely on merit for entry into public universities this year (2002)\nThe announcement of the successful enrolment of students into public universities this year has seen the increase of Bumiputra student intake to 68.9% of the total enrolment while enrolment of non-Bumiputra students has declined to 31.1% (Chinese-26.4% and Indian-4.7%)\nfor comparison the previous quota that was used prior to that year was:\nMalay 55% ( increase to 68.9)\nChinese 35% (decrease to 26.4)\nIndian 10% (decrease to 4.7)", "Tbf, ‘merit’ is a metric ripe for manipulation", "Read the full report, the title is \"3 Steps to Restore the Confidence of Non-Bumiputra Students in STPM\".\nThe decrease in enrolment of non-Bumiputra students had been attributed to the drastic decline of the number of non-Bumiputra applicants due to the fact that not many Chinese and Indian students were interested to pursue STPM.\nHow ? \"Chinese students make up only 22% of the total applicants while 5.33% are Indian students.\"\nWhy ?\n\"many who have scored good grades in their SPM examination and have good prospect of being admitted into public universities. Their choice is understandable as sitting for the STPM is a “high risk” move, as is does not guarantee a place for them in their preferred courses in the public universities due to the restricted places under the quota system. \"\nRead full below.\nDeputy Education Minister Datuk Hon Choon Kim revealed that Chinese students make up only 22% of the total applicants while 5.33% are Indian students. The low application by non-Bumiputra students shows that many Chinese and Indian students have no confidence in the Sijil Tinggi Pelajaran Malaysia (STPM) and thus many of them refused to further their studies to Form 6 after they have sat for the Sijil Pelajaran Malaysia (SPM) but instead opted to study in private colleges pursuing twinning programs or professional courses. This includes many who have scored good grades in their SPM examination and have good prospect of being admitted into public universities. Their choice is understandable as sitting for the STPM is a “high risk” move, as is does not guarantee a place for them in their preferred courses in the public universities due to the restricted places under the quota system. This undeniably is a more secured option but at the same time creates a lot of financial burden for parents who have to fork out a large sum of money to finance their children’s high tuition fees in private colleges and their cost of living in cities.", "if it resulted in professional courses being filled with an overwhelming majority of non-Bumiputera students\ndosent matter. the point is on one year they do quota and another year they do merit and there are noticeable difference in both year. the system did change but the scenario that people think will happen does not happen and somehow become way worst\nfast forward 10 years later (2013) Lim Kit Siang still complain about how merit system was worst then quota.", "Seems to be this might have something to do with the Matriculation system still being on the quota 90:10 system?\nAs pointed out by the article you linked, that system remains and if a substantial portion of university admission are given to matriculation students, you would logically see a drop since the \"backstop\" mechanism that keeps STPM students filled in would be gone.\nWould love a good study/analysis on the mechanics of that if anyone has it, seems like a bunch of research to actually drill down to the possinle causes.", "Then it’s not fair to capable nons who should rightfully fill the place. That in itself is a great disservice to the nation n much unbeneficial to bumis" ], [ "Pain now, gain later" ], [ "The way to do it is by first starting a \"no one left behind\" policy in education.\n1st step: get a lot more teachers, like 30% more than what we have now at least.\n2nd step: You suck at studying? Failing your \"insert subject\"? You join after school class, mandatory. Qualified guidance counsellor to 1 to 1 go through what's the student's problem is and helping them to fix it. No go home loiter, we make sure you pass, by understanding why you can't understand. Move you to syllabus more suitable to your aptitude.\nThen we go towards a more meritocracy education system.", "Last time in my primary school, which was a SJKC, used to run this kind of system during the year of UPSR. All of us would have to attend additional classes after school every day.", "as if malaysia has enough money to hire qualified and non abusive guidance counsellor hahaahha", "Well we have enough money to hire the largest civil servant to population ratio.\nProbably train/ transition them in, or they can quit and try their luck in private sector.\nIt's a matter of wanting to do it or not.\nI mean we suddenly got money to complete the shelved LRT2 stations no? That was what? 5 billion?", "I mean we suddenly got money to complete the shelved LRT2 stations no? That was what? 5 billion?\nNot comparable (though I don't disagree with the rest of your post).\nIt's a lit easier to obtain loans and investment for tangible infrastructures than it is for the nebulous gift of education.", "I think I said this because recently Tony Pua went to a podcast called \"are we ok\" to say they shelved those stations because its not feasible at current area population usage.\nI understand your counter argument but the point I'm making is they can stomach a bad investment without considering the fiscal return, against the guy I'm replying that said they \"don't have the money\"", "The problem here is that assuming all teachers are fine and not emotionally abusive.", "By that logic, nothing can be done to anything; because one component of a larger picture will always be broken sometime, somewhere.\nA thing to be concerned about yes. But very unproductive to not do anything because something might be a problem.\nToo lazy to do an analogy, so something something, Murphy's Law.", "i'm not against the addition of teachers, i'm just saying that both the addition of teachers into the teaching sector and implementing regular check-up of the teachers should be in place (which is unlikely to happen)" ], [ "From free tongkats to free electric wheelchairs for generations, now you expect them to make an effort?" ], [ "Should not have quota for certain courses that have bad consequences when small mistakes are made e.g. nuclear science, medicine, structural, geotechnical, aviation etc" ], [ "When will Malaysia ever be fully ready, actually?", "never" ], [ "isnt meritocracy = fairness? what's the point of graduating with tongkat?", "no, it is not. imo A+ with 20 hours of tuition a week is worth much less than A- while tending to a parent's nasi lemak stall every day. wouldn't it be much worse if that bright student, who overcome such adversity to get their results, still wasn't supported and left to waste away in the end?" ], [ "Survival of the fittest, scared is for the weak" ], [ "I don't get it. Are we not using meritocracy in tertiary education except for UITM/Matriculation?", "Keyword is matriculation." ], [ "What a stupid country and policy lol. Enjoy the brain drain" ], [ "They know if they play fair, public universities will be dominated by Cina" ], [ "Sudden change, yes. Gradual change, no.\nKeep the racial quota for now, but make it b40 malay only. Need to check income tax to verify. It helps the country because families who want to enjoy this needs to declare income, more data for the government and potential higher income tax collection.\nWe can open it up to other races after the majority are used to the concept." ], [ "SMKCs: meh" ], [ "Instead of heaving Matrik/University quotas.\nHow about with give free tuition to Bumiputera instead ? Like we open a free tuition center for all the Bumis, filled with the best teachers. If you cannot succeed even with the best teachers helping you for free, I don't think university is for you." ], [ "Then ask why companies want to hire non Malays? Racist ke?" ], [ "There’s a white horse in the room thats never talked about. The average IQ of Malays(and Indians) fall substantially behind the Chinese. This will be reflected in academic performance. This is not easily corrected and will take generations. So mediocracy will not work for Malays for the longest time." ], [ "Allocate seats as per race distribution, so roughly 10% to Indians, 30% to Chinese and 60% to Malays. Use meritocracy within each category. Its not hard.\nThis way Malays are ensured allocation, while there’s still a mechanism to ensure seats for the highest performers within each category.", "Well if that's the case you gotta allocate proportionately to sabah and sarawak folks as well, Iban, dayak, kadazan etc.\nMalaysia isn't just peninsula", "Agreed.", "I was gonna agree and upvote the idea but that last sentence is distasteful.", "Not a fan of this. My perceived aim of public university education is to give lower income students to affordable venue to better themselves and improve social mobility. Instead of making the distribution based on race, we should make it based on socioeconomic level and academic performance. High performers from a high income family don't need public university ecudation because their family can afford private university education for them.", "That would be the ideal situation. I completely agree. My comment was trying to be realistic and ensure a proportionate level of malay seats.", "You made a valid point that I felt was worth looking into deeper and definitely one for discussion, until...\nIf you don’t agree with this you’re a racist.\n...because apparently this isn't a discussion and if I find a flaw in it I'm a racist lol. Sorry, get over yourself.", "or distribute based on familial income." ], [ "Don’t worry. Someone will pop up and say ketuanan doesn’t exist, it’s something imaginary cooked up by the Chinese Malaysians on Reddit." ], [ "A pure meritocracy would benefit the rich more than the poor. After all, the rich has access to better resource, food, school. They can afford to go to tuition. They can afford to focus in afterschool activities (is it called coop?) for better points while the poor might have to spend their day helping with family businesses and maybe take care of their younger siblings while their parents are out working.\nIn the end, the gap between the rich and the poor would only grow larger. Meritocracy is fine and all but a quota system should still be implemented, so stop acting like it's a bad thing. In fact, isn't all public universities like this? As far I know, UM is under this system.", "They can afford to focus in afterschool activities (is it called coop?)\nMy time it was called Ko-K (Pronounced Co-Kay. Short form for Ko-kurikulum, which is the Co-curriculum in Malay.)", "Quota suppose to be universal as in for the poor or b40 - and not race based. Not all nons are t20 and not all Malays are from b40." ], [ "Isu is not about competition at all for Malays. Its about having the unis opened but sjk/smjk still being there.", "Sjk and smk accept students from any race.", "They can accept animals and plants even. The sentiment remains that the malays consider them divisive.", "To be fair if a llama can make RM1 = USD1 , I will gladly vote the llama to be our next PM.", "sembang kencang anyone can" ], [ "So ? How to increase its country economy? Will it be continue of 500 years of being bully by other nation or prosperity after 100 years ?" ], [ "We should do it slowly and gradually instead" ], [ "Malaysia ni semua kena sudden sudden. Kalau nk pelan2, kena kaji dulu, kena cuba try test dulu takkan jadi. Sebab sem depan tukar menteri dia jadi lain pulak." ] ]

[ "Economy & Finance" ]

[ [ "Summary of this Act:\nThis law will mandate the government to issue multiple different financial or economic reports annually and every 3 or 5 years and table them in the Parliament. The Minister of Finance has the responsibility to formulate several fiscal and economical policies and ensure they are adhered to by other government entities.\nIf any factors derail the economic development or financial stability of Malaysia, or if an entity's debt that is guaranteed by the government is about to default, the government need to table a contigency plan or solution to the Parliament or House of Representatives (Dewan Rakyat).\nThis law also mandated the government to spend at least 3% of our GDP on development expenditure and to keep the national budget deficit to be not larger than -3% of our GDP. Under this law, the government will also need to keep the national government debt to be lower than 60% of our GDP.\nFailure to keep aforementioned policies and criteria will mandate the government to answer to the Parliament.\nHowever, this not cause a change in government or a government shutdown like in the US if the Parliament decided to not approve the contingency/mitigation plan formulated by the government.\nThis is because the law only said \"If the fiscal adjustment plan is not approved, the House of Representatives may pass a resolution to require the Minister to improve the fiscal adjustment plan to be laid in the House of Representatives as soon as practicable\"" ], [ "The whole Act can be accessed here:\nhttps://lom.agc.gov.my/act-detail.php?act=850&lang=BI&date=29-12-2023#timeline\nPDF version:\nhttps://lom.agc.gov.my/ilims/upload/portal/akta/outputaktap/1946989_BI/WJW23%EF%80%A21340%20BI.pdf\nThis whole Act, except section 37 and 38, will come into force on 1st of January 2024:\nhttps://lom.agc.gov.my/act-view.php?type=pub&language=BI&no=P.U.%20(B)%20584/2023%20584/2023)\nThe Prime Minister, with the YDPA power delegated to him, has prescribe the authoritative text of this Act and its subsidiary legislation shall be in English:\nhttps://lom.agc.gov.my/act-view.php?type=pub&language=BI&no=P.U.%20(B)%20585/2023%20585/2023)" ], [ "Thank you OP:26561:" ], [ "💩\nDSAI: Reee one person cannot hold both PM and Finance Minister portfolio.\nMadanon: Anyways.", "Anwar wrested some of Finance Minister’s powers by instituting this Act, and it took him less than a year to introduce the bill. Did any previous Finance Minister make the effort to propose the law?", "Is that a rhetorical question? The point he made about FM and PM not being held by one person over the years meant nothing?\nYou're saying if he didn't hold both of the portfolio or someone else had it, there's zero chance of reform or new laws being enacted. I suppose we could always look at the dark days of the first PH government under Tun. Maybe the PM should always hold the Finance Minister post in perpetuity.", "I understand if you are disappointed with this.\nFor now, please be assured that Anwar has done major reforms in the ministries that he personally oversees. For the Finance Ministry, which is an indispensable ministry that handles the country’s Treasury and is currently facing fiscal constraints, Anwar has introduced this Fiscal Responsibility Act and stipulated that all government procurement processes must be done through open tender. For the Prime Minister’s Office, he has instructed to start working on separating the powers between the Attorney General and the Deputy Public Prosecutor.\nThere is also now a Second Finance Minister to take a more hands-on role in the ministry.", "Hindsight is 20/20. Of course we are hopeful for proposed changes, and it would take awhile to see their effects. Let's hope for the best for now :29091::29091::29091:", "Do I think it's rather hypocritical yes,but judging by current political situation , is it a necessity? Imo Yes.I mean who else would you suggest to be finance minister instead.\nIt has to be someone from PKR and someone who can keep power dynamic balance. Especially when UMNO is in the team." ], [ "Any other countries doing this? Any chance the info able to identify scum moves like 1MDB buying land from government and selling it back with inflated price?" ] ]

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[ [ "<image>\nsome fire near nxp", "Ohw I thought someone having early new year celebrations", "just fire, no work…", "badum~", "New years Bon fire ….. semangat satu Malaysia", "You took that picture yourself? Those buildings kinda look like the PPR near Sunway Setia Jaya", "yeah" ], [ "Yes we get it. You vape.", "Bro has the mouth of a sperm whale", "Dude be flexing his vape skill fr fr" ], [ "gender reveal, malay version", "Pronouns are Black?", "Nig/ga", "congratulations it's a fire!", "Chinese version would be white smoke from incense sticks?", "Sunat, yes?" ], [ "Thought it was some dude practising smoking/puffing tricks.", "Have to say that's a mighty impressive smoke ring!", "Someone is vaping, fire hazard style" ], [ "Red indians smoke signal", "Translation: send nudes", "No, send dudes... bro in a fight" ], [ "It's that blue caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland" ], [ "M. A. K. K. O. H. I. J. A. U.\n... I don't get the code." ], [ "Admiral Kuznetsov" ], [ "Its a Native American smoke signal." ], [ "Looks like a transformer explosion smoke? Probably from a tnb power distribution." ], [ "Snoop Dogg spotted" ], [ "<image>" ], [ "Looks like a transformer explosion?" ], [ "That's a save point. Dont disturb the game's character please" ], [ "OP can cross post to r/BeAmazed" ], [ "sekolah menengah bathroom:" ], [ "Seems like they haven't chosen a new Pope yet" ], [ "Hembusan naga yang sebenar" ], [ "something exploded" ], [ "High skilled Vaper" ], [ "" ], [ "Smoke signal" ], [ "Kelana jaya incident" ], [ "just passed it. smoke getting bigger and darker." ], [ "U F O" ], [ "VAPE NATION" ], [ "Giant Vape" ], [ "Is that a prison?" ], [ "A rift in space and time" ], [ "I asked for fireworks on NYE… not a literally fire…" ], [ ":26554:" ], [ "A Garganta." ], [ "awal main recall\"" ], [ "Bro flexing with his vaype" ], [ "KL fire, penang fire." ], [ "Sorry i was vaping m(_ _)m" ], [ "A UFO but in smoke" ], [ "Someone finish their phone credit, need use smoke signal" ], [ "jokes aside. ives seen a few videos like this not in Malaysia. can anyone explain what causes this phenom?" ], [ "Attack of the titan. Smoking pot." ], [ "I saw that too from Bangsar South" ], [ "Sending signals...." ], [ "monster vape" ], [ "vape naish y'all" ], [ "A new pope has been elected." ], [ "Holy fire" ], [ "Didn't know we had American Indians here." ], [ "Transformer letting out all the magic smoke." ], [ "someone vaping laa" ], [ "A Barrier is forming... Is this another Shibuya???" ] ]

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[ [ "Fuck lah KNN give me back GST!!!! Stress max seeing getting taxed here and there", "I'll grab popcorn when Madanon reintroduces GST while demonizing bossku and Formula boy grabs his bald head saying it's a good thing under Madanon :26554::26554::26554:", "Anything as long as I’m not paying 10% for imported stuff since it’s GST. Inb4 10% GST", "10% GST? That puts us inline with our neighbours.\nThailand has a 10% VAT, Indonesia has 11%. Singapore has theirs set at 8%. Meanwhile we have to pay several different taxes because (frankly) scrapping GST is a rather boneheaded populist move.\nMeanwhile, ours was set at 6% and tu pun dah bising.", "Singapore GST now 9% already", "Oh it just happened apparently, takes effect today. Wiki hasn't been updated yet.", "exactly 😂", "Yeah seeing how others are now at 10+/-,\nNot surprised if GST is reintroduced but at 10% lmao" ], [ "Kind of hard to know what is the rate. Shopee doesnt display it. Or is it the displayed price readily inflated by the lvg tax.", "10%", "Yeah just check and the displayed price of all oversea item is already added with the 10% tax.", "is that really how is works? i was fiddling around in shopee last night too and couldnt understand why the LVG amount wasnt displayed even for overseas items at checkout\nnow it makes sense why the listed prices are not rounded off. would still be nice if they could give a breakdown though", "The other day bought a motherboard for rm69, today I checked the price rm75.9, the tax is added to the product in homepage alr", "i just checked out some kpop albums too. prices were RM9X.XX a day or two ago, now its all RM1XX.XX lmao", "If I knew this would happen would have bought all the things I needed earlier :(", "Same. I knew the tax was coming but didn't expect it to be this bad, thought it was a select few things and they will only list the tax at checkout rather than listing it outright everywhere.\nKinda sucks cause there's quite alot of things that can only be obtained from overseas, not to say there's a local alternative to it (like my kpop albums sigh)" ], [ "ABC, GST." ], [ "Its doesn't matter what kind tax\nOur business man\nGst? Fuck yes , raise price!\nSst ? Fuck yes , raise price!\nLower tax? Fuck yes , raise price!\nCost lowered? SORRY I CAN'T READ" ], [ "Is there product list on low value goods? Or how is it defined?", "Basically anything purchased online from overseas RM500 and below per item (not per order) excluding tobacco, liquour, and/or cigarettes. There are other conditions you can read up on sites like this", "Non low value goods already have tax. Basically everything is taxed, no more exceptions." ], [ "The thing is, this tax affect local sellers too. All my cart items just got the prices raised for no reason. Local sellers will also raise their price arguably because they bought their items from overseas.", "If items are imported and sold, they would already be taxed 10% duty and SST. I don’t know which idiot seller would only import 2 items and keep it “low valued” just to save a few bucks. Nothing should be changed.\nWhat you’re seeing are sellers just increasing price and blame it on LVG because consumers like you are ignorant to how LVG works.", "I don’t know which idiot seller would only import 2 items and keep it “low valued” just to save a few bucks.\nThe tax are calculated based on unit price, not bulk price. Even if you buy 6 unit of Rm100 item you’ll still be taxed 10% for each item.", "Doesn’t matter.\nNo supplier in this world will give you a deal without a sizeable MOQ to begin with.", "Domino effect ….. when gov implemented something that does really go on check …. you see seller rubbing their bird hand together and said it is time for profit …..", "Wrong reason. Its because they no longer need to compete with lower oversea price, and because there is no need to offer needless discount, just raise the price match. Consumer would pick local anyway for faster shipping." ], [ "I checked, i think even though shopee states that, but I think their system has yet been updated which shop need to be taxed. From what I understand, only shops with 500k sales, not sure anually or monthly that is taxed. Small shops are not affected.\nSo, in theory, only big official stores are affected. But I had checked like huawei official store, price of its product remains the same. Even at checkout, no tax is added.\nLazada also same.\nSo, I think in the mean time, the taxes are not yet applied in shopee and also lazada.\nOr they count 500k sales annually in that specific platform only then applicable to be taxed. Maybe Huawei official store dont reach that amount, so not taxed. I only track a few stores but all that i tracked are not taxed. If anyone have tracked some other products from other big stores that may have 500k above sales can try check. 🤔", "Nope i checked and all the small shops oversea items also have pre applied 10%, what you see price already included with the tax. The 500k sales means they SHOULD register with LHDN for this tax(not sure for what), but regardless of sales, their item will still get tax. I saved a lot of china items before and the raised price fits the 10% amount.", "Not just LHDN, Kastam Malaysia too.. companies gotta register with Kastam", "Big official stores like the ones you mentioned already have their items taxed since day 1. Moreover they are more than the LVG threshold of RM500.\nNothing changes for big stores, only small store peddler would get a price hike." ], [ "" ], [ "Shoot. Forgot about this." ], [ "Thank you madanon", "Need madanon version of this gif" ], [ "How much %?", "Holy hell", "New tax just dropped.", "Actual audit", "10% below 500, 30% above 500, that 30% not mention because its old rate and thus can use excuse \"we only add 10% tax on item below 500 to protect local brick and mortar traders\":26554:" ], [ "Sonofabitch" ], [ "Tax the poor eh, we should start uprising" ], [ "What website is that ?", "Shopee" ], [ "How much?" ], [ "Looking at the comments, I feel a little relief after binging overseas items last night at the very last minute\nMeanwhile, I am targeting a cheap laptop from a local seller, which I saw suddenly today jacked up price more than 20% than yesterday, like WTF?" ], [ "Man,there goes my hope of buying a new phone.", "Unless the new phone is under RM500, it doesn't count.", "A new phone is not a low value good below rm 500" ], [ "Ah AliExpress has put on the 10% tax too 😭" ], [ "So what are defined as LVGs? Do they provide that information to us or are we supposed to do our own homework?" ] ]

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[ [ "The Seremban City Council has said it will seal units and tear up agreements with residents who refuse to pay.\ncity council will not gonna do this lmao. they never done anything in 20 years they wont do something new now:26554:", "If they do, it will be a political suicide lmao.", "Lol so true" ], [ "No action taken so don't need to pay lor similar to ptptn loans and iwk bill" ], [ "Hire the service of Abang-abang Ah Long, let them keep 25% of the collection. The problem will be solved in a short period of time. Hahaha...." ], [ "Give more subsidy to b40 , only choice" ], [ "Start clamping the cars. Only unclamped after dues are sufficiently paid." ], [ "It will be waived" ], [ "Damn, 20 years?" ] ]

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[ [ "both cars look like an Aston Martin\nActually left is an Aston Martin, specifically the DBS. Right is a 3rd gen Bentley Continental GT. I get your confusion.\nSome workshops are like this though not everyday. I know a guy who sends his Aston all the way to Sungai Buloh just because he knew the shop owner since he was in Naza then Aston Martin KL so he knows his way around the car.", "The first pic clearly shows the difference.", "Correct. If you’re into cars, then clearly you can tell the difference between an Aston and a Bentley. I’m just pointing out to those who can’t. Considering the 3rd gen Continental is drastically different than the prev gens and Bentley took the Aston Martin DB9 and draw it on a tracing paper to design the 3rd gen Continental." ], [ "I'm quite fascinated on how these workshops can get the proper mechanics and possibly even tools to service these vehicles.", "The Best Ever Tool, The Technician.", "Sometimes workshops like this are family owned and passed down to generations. I know this one Wak in JB who worked for Cycle & Carriage in Germany and specialises in bodywork and paint before returning to Malaysia and opening up a shop here. His workshop doesn't look fancy but man, his workmanship is absolutely amazing.\nUnfortunately he moved his shop away from JB to Pontian due to his sick mother. But if there’s any major repairs and restoration, I'm definitely sending my car to him.", "For the most part it's not very different from most cars.\nThe main difference is that these cars sometimes have software that require specialty reader to do their service.", "Have you not watched Mat Armstrong on YouTube?" ], [ "Looks can be deceiving. Shop might look run-down, but the technician/mechanic inside is better than the atas workshops or even service centers that charge you twice the price for mediocre workmanship. I've experienced this before." ], [ "And in the shop row behind it you have the best duck rice", "From Penang. Picked up an M3 in KL. Stopped by for the best duck in Sunrise and happened to park here. First thought was.... Damn, this must be some fantastic workshop !! Look at all these cars!!!", "M3 ?!!Damn that's one hell of a car,M3 G80 i assume?or maybe m3 e92?", "Model 3?" ], [ "You send your luxury car to this workshop so the mechanic won't fook up your car." ], [ "There's a workshop along Jalan Kuchai Lama that looks like absolutely run down, but is one of the official certified Porsche service center in Malaysia." ], [ "Sometimes it’s all about the r/kereta workshop familiarity. Yes workshop should have clean garage. But a rundown looking workshop isn’t that bad too" ], [ "Most of these Ah Fooks worked at luxury car service centres before opening up their own. The clients who have known and trusted them from the original svc centres would \"support\" them by taking their cars to the new workshops. What more, they can get parts at cheaper prices as well, let alone labour charges." ], [ "Also dumping ground for cars that people send to fix but no money to pay for the repairs" ], [ "It's Seapark, part of old PJ. It's not really surprising, many residents there's are old money rich.\nJust swing by to Kampung Tunku beside it and you'll understand. It's called Kampung Tunku because of the many Tan Sri's and Tunkus who live / lived there." ], [ "Ah fook might be a bloody good mechanic, or better than those at the authorised service centre. If so, I 'd like to buy this Ah fook a beer." ], [ "that workshop always have sick cars, there was a 997 gt3 once when i ate at the food court behind it" ], [ "The shop beside used to be dai chow restaurant thong kee(not the cafe) 20 years ago. The best sweet sour pork ever. Sad they closed" ], [ "I get my RS4 and S6 sedan serviced in a workshop near Assunta hospital/Campbell's factory\nPlace looks just like this picture\nThey at least didn't try to swap out stuff like parking sensors and my sports differential, steal my air compressor and coin purse; unlike Audi \"Damansara\" (near Ikea) and Glenmarie, whilst my car was still under warranty\nEff those guys\nEdit: the neighbor is a paint shop, and has some of the best lauk in PJ at their cafeteria" ], [ "Why nobody mention about the opposite building(Use to be\"Ruby Theatre\")?. And as now I'm a middle age man, I realized the road is sure getting smaller around Sea Park." ], [ "I’m fascinated how people find this fascinating.", "think it's more from the contrast between the luxury cars and the run down state of the mechanic workshop", "What are you expecting? Welcome to Malaysia", "typical kopitiam reply. nothing to add, only snark and edge lord comment.", "Oh my god you are so cool being edge lord in a online forum, can i suck your dick already?", "Wut?", "You sound quite experienced at that", "People who need to get out the house more often", "Look it’s a car, let’s take a photo (in Homer Simpson’s voice)" ], [ ":26555:" ], [ "Reminds me of the time we and a friend were driving down to beranang and passed by semenyih (the road with a ton of car repair shops). My friend mentioned how old one and run down of the work shops looked and looking further inside there were 2 R33s in there. Kind of gave that old school workshop vibe where looks were just bare necessities." ], [ "There's a saying, sometimes the best mechanics is the \"pomen bawah pokok\"." ], [ "This workshop is always full of luxury cars!" ], [ "Talked to the owner before they only work on luxury cars, normal cars they won't bother" ], [ "anyone has good recommended workshop for Audi?" ], [ "Some mechanics had experience in official service center, then quit to run his own service shop" ] ]

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[ [ "These mfs have no idea how roundabouts work. First 10 lessons going around roundabouts.", "Agreed. Trying to use a roundabout will give me a heart attack especially here in JB.", "I kid you not, when I attended driver's school, neither the lessons nor the exams covered roundabouts. The \"left lane to exit 1 and 2, right lane for exit 3 and so on\" thing was discovered by me on the internet only recently.", "Its in the book and syllabus, you guys need to study that to pass the exam right?", "My undang \"teacher\" was thirty minutes late to the class. He never covered that topic, nor did any related questions came up in the exam (by some chance idk). My mother, who also taught me how to drive, also seemed oblivious of that law. When it comes to roundabouts, her solution is \"just don't drive parallel to others, they might need to change lanes\".\nNevertheless, I live in a small town (Ipoh) and traffic isn't too heavy, so you can agak2 your way through roundabouts. Things only changed when I came to KL.", "Man, that kinda explains why people are so clueless around roundabouts in the klang valley. Sabah they quite pro, maybe better training.", "I don't recall having a \"undang\" teacher 😅 Thought it was just a booklet to memorize", "Roundabouts are second nature for me.\nI live in Shah Alam." ], [ "The problem is they don't care, not they don't know", "Should give them real consequences then. The duit kopi has got to stop and real enforcement should be carried out responsibility. This whole situation is a chicken and egg problem.", "Well it's easier to migrate to a country that has strict rule of law than to hope to change this lek lu cincai country from top to bottom" ], [ "No need.\nWe just need enforcement.", "Enforcement more on lane hogger, blur driver and phone use.", "You will need education on enforcement, and corruption too." ], [ "Lesen very expensive overhaul that first" ], [ "Oh it definitely is flawed. Duit kopi settles everything. Theory just covers maybe 20% of what you actually need to know. And fuck me how are people still clueless about using roundabouts? It’s as if once we enter one, all rules don’t apply." ], [ "I personally do feel that the driving syllabus should be more technical covering basic defensive driving techniques. There should also be like an annual/bi annual rechecks (?) or recertifications for senior citizens after they passed a certain age to certify that they are still fit for driving especially in terms of vision and hearing capabilities" ], [ "The problem is not in the teaching but the attitude and the enforcement. Just take a look at the highly educated nations with high HDI such as Singapore — as soon as they cross the border the whole civilised mindset is put on pause." ], [ "Strict enforcement and punishment. Like ccp. Got saman? Cannot renew license. Each saman will deduct point. After reaching 0, gantung license.\nActually we do have that, but biasa ya bayar duit kopi boleh settle. So in the end, ketamakan is the main cause." ], [ "For me, need ongoing strict enforcement. This may very likely be unpopular, but the gov needs to stand their ground on this 1 instead of worry too much on what people say in twitter.", "I’ve got an idea. Why do we even announce speed cameras? Shouldn’t they be kept hidden as to their location? If we know where the cameras are, nobody will actually follow the speed limit outside of the zones.", "This actually started when AES introduced. Many people questioned the legality of speed traps. If im not mistaken, the findings were, need to inform road users there are speed traps in the area." ], [ "In addition to this, the way roads are designed is plain stupid. Road markings are often not up to date, and the roads themselves are not well maintained. Highways should also be designed properly. I remember trying to enter a highway only for there to be a fucking wall on the on-ramp." ], [ "This was an actual quote from my driving teacher: \"Malaysian driving test is the easiest to pass and easiest to die.\"", "Very accurate" ], [ "I took Singapore's Basic Theory Test (same as our Undang) during my licence conversion. Their Undang has one important thing that ours didn't teach --- what to do when your car skids.\nThey also have two theory tests before the practical, first is this Basic Theory Test, then they have a Final Theory Test" ] ]

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[ [ "2019 - depression\n2020 - covid, cat died\n2021 - being used, another cat went missing and never return\n2022 - horrible break up, got sick (separate event, not because of the break up)\n2023 - started off the year depressed, rn is still in limbo. It could have gone better, but it is definitely the best compared to past four years", "May the year gets better for you homie , mine was pretty bad as well this year hoping to get better treatment this coming year", "May we all have a good year ahead🤞" ], [ "Great year, although it started rough this early on, but this year makes me grow a lot.\nLooking forward for 2024." ], [ "2023 is really best.\nStarted in martial arts and good enough to represent my school but didn't win, it's the participation that counts, everyone's a winner.\nRan SCMKL full marathon and finished below 4 hours first time.\nGained 6kg of muscles after weight loss of 18kg in 2022.\nAdded 100k into EPF self contribution and anticipate more than 6% dividends" ], [ "Started off bad and ended just OK. I lost my dad at the start of the year and had never lost anyone close to me before. Still grieving and decided that I would travel more because life is short you Know? I did more travelling than I had envisioned. Company also retrenched lots of staff in the middle of the year but thankfully I wasn’t one of them.\nIf 2023 was a year of grief, I’m hoping 2024 will be my year for recovery." ], [ "Quite a rollercoaster. Rough start, lost my cat at the end of last year. Went on a few months grieving period. Got another cat, then another cat got sick (not the new one), met the love of my life, and never felt happier. I explored and experienced so many things in the span of 8 months than I ever did in the years I've lived. Certain circumstances suck, but it all has led me here, i'm eternally grateful. Never knew loving someone and being loved could be just so.... warm. Here's to you baby. I know you'll read this :26561:🧡" ], [ "Had a rough start this year, but managed to make some changes that turn things around at the second half of the year. I changed my job, went on several trips, which is really what I enjoyed this year. But my social life is still dull as last year, really find it tough this year to vent out my feelings or meet someone new that can truly vibe with you." ], [ "Nothing really eventful, the most memorable event that happens to me this year is a tarantula spider crawl into my ear when I went off road jungle tracking. Oh man that hurt." ], [ "Got really no passion and bored at my work Got layoff Seeing dental RCT\nHope for the best next year." ], [ "Honestly one of the memorable years of my life. Finally got to see Muse last July." ], [ "2022 is still my best post-covid year" ], [ "It was the best year and also worst year of my life. Best because I got married this year (once in a lifetime) also my dad had cancer (discovered after my wedding) and passed in 2 months (first parent to go). So it’s kinda like a strange year for me." ], [ "The year with the most active fighting game community participation and finally met with the folks behind FF14 & FF16 by Square Enix's CBU3 Yoshida-san & Koji Fox. A pretty good year personally.\n<image>" ], [ "Worst physical pain I’ve ever been in so far but managed to finish my engineering degree despite it. Achieved my goal of learning new things and got more new friends from cosplay and car community. Barely kept my sanity of trying to forget my crush.\nYeah, not bad. Not bad." ] ]

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[ [ "Drop the soap = ass raping in jail\nPlanta = lube for anal sex", "To be fair, planta is way cheaper than lube." ], [ "It's just an evolution of the peliwat insult\nUsing sabun and Planta to licinkan the butthole\nBasically it's \"terpaling Islam\" having buttsex in their head, rent-free", "You don't really want to understand the mindset of walauns tbh, they have no brain capacity\nPH fans spin around like a washing machine, Walauns just stand in one place spewing sewer shit", "I would still prefer to bring back the court to reverse its judgement on PMX. All he has is a pardon from ex-Agong which really means the conviction still holds. This is why he can still be called a peliwat. I also don’t think a 70 year old can rape a 20+ year old. But you can’t argue with that when the judgement is still valid on paper.", "First one I can somewhat believe, as there are many closet gay out there.\nBut then he kena same charge same way at height of his political career, again. I mean dude, even the blind can see what's up.", "Ummmm didn't the royal pardon voided the whole case itself?", "I’m not sure exactly. But pardon means forgiveness which inadvertently also means Agong forgave him as “peliwat”. Which is why many who wants to attack him can still use this against him especially when they have no more bullets against him.", "I get the gay references. But I think it's in context to an interview he did with a former inmate of Sg Buloh who was also incarcerated at the same time with Anwar." ], [ "PN meme game is weak. Its not even funny and the common folks don't even get the reference unless its explained. Anyone remember kakistokrasi?" ], [ "The guy claimed it was a normal accurance in prison to have gay sex orgy. They use planta and soaps as lubricants. And the guy claimed anwar on some occasions joined those orgies.\nBut for me, its just too farfetched. I dont think its true." ] ]

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[ [ "Earlier discussion\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/18u3h2q/gerbang_alaf_restaurants_has_requested_bds/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3" ], [ "As much as I think this one is misguided, boycott is a form of free speech. Letting corporations successfully sued will set dangerous precedent.", "Boycott is fine\nTelling people \"Ini company yang menyokong Israel\" (while being factually wrong) is not.\nIn an Ideal world, courts should be saying \"okay to boycott, but if you claim something , you have to prove it\"", "Freedom of speech doesn't = Freedom from consequences.\nI.e. if its defamatory.\nI'm free to say KFC is shit, that's a personal opinion and FOS.\nBut if I say KFC pays for terrorism via erotica staring their chicken, that's defamatory, and I'll be libel for it.\nPlease don't sue me KFC.", "Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.\nBoycott is fine, and cannot be stopped. But if someone starts lying (or claims unproven allegations), then they're potentially in trouble - libel and slander laws exist for a reason.", "BDS: Freedom of speech\nMcDonald: Freedom to sue", "Boycott is part of democracy. It's another form of voting, albeit with your wallet.", "What if the boycott is based on false information? That just becomes libel or slander at that point" ], [ "So if I say, \"don't eat McDonald's food, it's unhealthy and expensive\", no one bats an eye.\nBut if I say, \"don't eat McDonald's food, it's funding the Israeli government\", that's grounds for a lawsuit? What are we, Americans?", "Because the former is factually based, while the latter is not (or at the very least, not provably factual regarding McD Malaysia).\nThis is actually a strange situation - if the boycott campaign was ineffective, Gerbang Alaf would've likely ignored it, and the fact that BDS Malaysia was making... questionable claims would've been quietly ignored. That they're not is indicative that it's had some impact beyond just their reputation, and as such Gerbang Alaf is taking serious action to point out that the claims by BDS Malaysia are unsubstantiated.\nI expect that this is just the first in a multi-pronged response by them, let's see how it goes.", "Because the former is factually based, while the latter is not\nNot really sure about that, though. I mean, when you consider the stuff the mamak and kopi tiam places offer, McD's aren't that bad. Hell, I would argue (if someone would bother to pay me lol) that because of the higher premium price of McD's, you're less likely to overeat a McD cheese burger than a super oily koay teow goreng with teh tarik.\nBut when I think about it some more, I think I kinda agree with Gerbang Alaf. McDonald's is headquartered in the US, not Israel. Plus there's also the RM1 million contribution made by McD Malaysia.\nI understand the reasoning of the BDS movement, but in this particular case they boycotters picked the wrong target.", "I mean, when you consider the stuff the mamak and kopi tiam places offer, McD's aren't that bad.\nDing ding ding. That's why you don't make specificclaims unless you damn kau certain. Saying McDonald's is unhealthy is generally supported by facts, but if you start making specific claims - ie, McDonald's is the unhealthiest food in Malaysia - then you're in trouble.\nBDS Malaysia seems to have alleged that McDonald's Malaysia was either supportive or funding Israel, and that's the kind of specifity that you need to watch out for - they could've stopped at something more moderate (ie McDonald's should do more to help Palestinians) but they didn't, and are know paying a price for that.", "Not quite, some instagrammers listed examples and reason why mcd is not healthy and is not hazard and got sued and we know the drill later.\nYes they sue, just not in this big media coverage but they will sue", "Can you share the examples? I suspect that these guys made the mistake of trying to be specific, and as said elsewhere, that can screw you over if you cannot prove it.", "This is the right way to get people to lose weight" ], [ "Good job Mekdi!" ], [ "Only on r/malaysia i see people going hard defending mcd", "I have been boycotting McDonalds months ago (I have no money)" ] ]

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[ [ "Happy 2023A" ], [ "Happy new year, hope it will be better but be ready for worse" ] ]

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[ "Meme Monday" ]

[ [ "For Malaysian memes every day of the week, please check out c/memeeveryday at our sister community monyet.cc! (why?)\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns." ], [ "Not sure of the format. but i geddit :29091:" ], [ "Peterrr helppp i dont get ittt", "Chinese word for 4 is bad luck.", "Wasnt it death?", "It is, that's why is bad luck or bad omen", "Thanks", "It is death, that'd be why in chinese hotel you will not find level 4, there are only level 3 and 3A for the 4th floor" ], [ "Drake Hotline Bling Meme", "*starts playing the Arabic remix" ], [ "Can't wait till 3A/3April/2023A" ], [ "Was wondering what does it mean... lampi betul hahahaha. Happy new year everyone!" ], [ "32/12/2023" ], [ "2024 babyyyy, hasta la muerte" ], [ "I hope by 203A3A, I have a kid who's finished high school with flying colors.... but I'm getting waaay ahead of myself\nAnyway, Selamat Tahun Baru, semua❤️" ], [ "curious, did the same meme ran for 2013A?" ], [ "2023A is the lawak tandas of this year NYE celebration" ], [ "2023 called and asked for the joke back.\nGuys, it's already stale, 4 isn't something we Chinese get fussed that much lah, 3A or 4 is just a preference. We deal with it instead of protesting and screaming agenda Yahudi.", "Haha cina scare 4:26561:", "Haha Yahudi coming to take your rights. /s" ], [ "lol. Happy New Year, Happy 2024 ! Let's Go !!!" ], [ "I remember joking that i will respond to a scene with a 444 patch on my arm, lets just say I got the desired reaction form my cina friends" ], [ "4/4/2024..." ] ]

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[ [ "Summoning the GOAT /u/jwteoh ...", "jwteoh! jwteoh! jwteoh!" ], [ "PAS ending the year/ starting the new year by introducing 10 fitnahs.", "It's cool how you started and ended your sentence with the same word." ], [ "Anything PAS" ], [ "Below is a chronological list of some of DAP’s domineering struggles throughout 2023 which would have ‘cross swords’ with PAS so to speak:\nThe then DAP Selangor state EXCO Datuk Teng Chang Kim behaved barbarically by linking liquor issue to prayers (January 2023).\nThe then Penang deputy chief minister II Prof Ramasamy Palanisamy questioned the dominance of the Malays in the public service (February 2023).\nFormer DAP publicity secretary Tony Pua claimed that Malaysia no longer needs Malay political parties (June 2023).\nDAP tried to fan racial sentiment by politicising the Kota Bahru Municipal Council’s compound on a boutique owner whose staff was fined for wearing shorts in the latter’s business premises (June 2023).\nDAP chairman Lim Guan Eng made a 3R (race, religion and royalty) slanderous speech claiming a ‘green wave’ will destroy Chinese temples and that non-Muslims will face various sanctions if PAS were to win the Penang state election (July 2023).\nDAP Ipoh Timor MP Howard Lee Chuan How committed misinterpretation of Quranic verses by urging Muslims to support the unity government (September 2023).\nDAP vice-chairman Nga Kor Ming condemned the costumes of Hamas fighters that were worn by school pupils in conjunction with the Palestinian Solidarity Week while urging the relevant authorities to take action (October 2023).\nDAP veteran leader Tan Sri Lim Kit Siang displays his chauvinist attitude by raising the issue of the Federal Constitution allowing non-Malays to be a Malaysian Prime Minister (November 2023).\nDAP Federal Territory chairman Tan Kok Wai pushing for the unity government to conduct local authority elections in Kuala Lumpur (December 2023).\nDAP Beruas MP Ngeh Koo Ham proposed the appointment of non-Muslims to sit in the special committee formed by the Federal Government to study the Syariah law (December 2023)." ], [ "Couple months later, \"Gong Xi Fa Cai\" wishes from PAS." ], [ "Lame" ], [ "This is no longer Parti Islam. Should rename as Parti Melayu Sr-Malaysia, PMS." ] ]

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[ [ "I thought the stalker case would be critical since he is the first person to be charged under the law, but no, it was just a byline under the Paul Yong rape case.\nThe stalker trial will set a precedent for subsequent stalkers in Malaysia. Too low a punishment and it fails to be a deterrent." ], [ "Very good read actually, thank you for sharing OP!" ] ]

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[ [ "Let me answer as a frequent ETS traveller. Because the other doesn't seem accurate in information. The Platinum class is actually the whole train, the class just means how many stops the train will go.\nPlatinum is the one with the least stops, which is the most \"express\". Gold will stop at more stations, with Silver stopping at the most. Platinum trains also have first class seats, at extra cost from standard Platinum, which are bigger with staff serving food (food is not free I think, never tried it). Gold trains don't have class separation in seats.\nFor Penang, there's only 1 Gold train a day and as you guessed for it being cheaper it is always full. Usually you'll need to book 2 weeks in advance. Platinum is usually possible to get tickets 1 - 2 days before or even on the same day except during peak travel seasons.\nI have never seen Silver trains, maybe they only exist on other lines or to other destinations.", "ETS Silver only exist on Ipoh-KL section, hence why you haven't seen it" ], [ "Platinum is a class, you could walk in and ask but that depends on luck (often booked)", "Thank you!" ], [ "There are Silver, Gold and Platinum with Platinum being the most expensive. It's a class term.\nYou can reserve all 3 types online, but if you only see Platinum, I'm guessing the other 2 types are sold out or just not available. What you see on the website should be more or less the same as tickets available at the counter.\nAs for Grab, it depends on your luck. What about taking buses to Ipoh?", "We looked up the busses but they did not fit in our schedule that well. Thank you so much for explaining!", "Please dodge the buses unless you're really tight on cash they're a horror with scheduling and breakdowns", "We will dodge them, budget is not the issue, we just all like trains very much. We‘ll try our luck at the train station and otherwise get a grab/teksi", "Alright safe travels!!" ], [ "If you're gonna take a train from Penang, go to Penang Sentral at Butterworth. Take a KTM Komuter train from there all the way to Ipoh since it's the final stop for the train. No booking required just like you're taking a commuter type of train. I suggest you to download the KTMB Mobile app from the app store so you can check the train schedule from there." ], [ "From what I understand the main difference between platinum and gold is the train is pretty much direct to ipoh with almost no stops whereas gold has some stops in between.", "There's actually 7 stops on ETS Platinum between Ipoh and KL - Ipoh, Batu Gajah, Kampar, Tg Malim, Sg Buloh, KL (Old Station), KL Sentral" ] ]

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[ [ "Hills and vehicles with no power 😂\nThere's always a buildup of traffic near the Nilai turn off. My theory it's various small cars and lorries slowing down as they climb the hill.\nAlso the dumbasses that tailgate & have to brake. Causing a chain reaction to happen behind them", "Yeah tailgaters are so dumb. I try to be a good driver and maintain some distance, an idiot always tries to slip in front of me. Another group are people who totally black out their windows, so i can't see past the car right in front of me." ], [ "The traffic will come to a standstill and when we drive past, there was nothing stopping the traffic\nWatch this video that explains how traffic builds up." ], [ "It’s because people who are slow don’t let ppl who want go fast go through, then a pileup occurs when the front brakes. Seriously Malaysians don’t understand what the right lane is for instead just sitting there going the speed limit…", "The number of times I've seen the left lane completely empty while the middle and right lanes are moving slow is baffling to me. It's like people are allergic to the left lane. I don't understand." ], [ "1) Theres some areas 3 lanes become 2.\n2) Certain exits and entry are kind of busy like ayer keroh. So, some cars from right lane last minute cut through to exit the highway, and some cars that just entered the highway not yet pickup speed straight enter right lane.\n3) the above also happens at busy r&r.\nWhen theres not many cars it wont create traffic jem, but when 10-20 cars do it in a short time frame, that creates the traffic jem." ], [ "Ah, the PLUS highway dance – comes to a standstill for no apparent reason. It's like Malaysian traffic has a secret flash mob agenda. Maybe the traffic jam is just practicing its festive season routine even when it's not festive. Cheers to the mystery of PLUS!" ] ]

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[ [ "You should be alright, you’d probably only had a note on you in case another report was made and a trend can be spotted.", "Thank you for your answer. Since I work here, would that show up in the reports they would get on me for visa renewals?", "No" ], [ "You can apply for good conduct cert with KLN and you will know if there is any police case under your name." ], [ "You should be fine, don't let this ruin your NY 😀" ], [ "It's just a note and no report was made against you. For them to lodge an official report against you for physical altercation, the victim has to get a medical report from a government hospital clearly stating every physical injury on him/her. If it's just a bruise, usually you can't even get that medical report and the police can't do anything against the perpetrator." ], [ "so, what happened? why/how did you get into a fight with a local?" ], [ "You're not in jail, you're fine... Enjoy the rest of your stay" ], [ "this is not japan. you'll be fine as long as your penis has not entered anyone without their consent during the altercation." ], [ "You're being let go with a pat on the hand. Consider yourself lucky.\nIf you're an economic migrants like Indonesian, Bangladeshi, Myanmarese or African migrants, an altercation with locals might worsened instead & involved nighttime at jail or worst, migrant detention center." ], [ "Next time don't be stupid and sign anything you don't understand and then come ask random people to give you the answer.\nWe never see what you signed, how would anyone here know?" ], [ "So we're all supposed to just believe what you said here huh? From my experience and depending where you're from Malaysian rarely start physical altercations with foreigners, we do that to each other.", "Does it matter if you believed it or not? Whether you believed me or not, it doesn't matter simply. so you don't need to be butthurt about a situation you weren't present at. My question was very simple and it was answered already in the comments above." ], [ "Becareful of the Malays.", "they are probably the calmest locals in the world...", "LOL!!!! What bubble you live in? You Malays are so delusional.", "which other country allows it's so called citizens to not learn their national language, have public holidays for minority's holy days, allow temples almost everywhere, etc?\nit's fucking vernacular narrow-minded idiots that is ruining the half a century balance we had in our country.", "When 4 ringgit for 1 sgd bro?", "when renminbi gonna reach RM level?\nlol", "", "What the fuk you talking you low Iq Malay? Have you no concept of currency? Jesus. You’re fuking dumb. Should start eating some bakwa to raise your iq\nquoted", "Quote as much as you want. Not gonna make you smarter", "it should get you off this sub\n;)", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat. While opinions of all kinds are welcome under our shared roof, reddiquette sets the expectation that everyone speaks to each other with basic civility and respect:\nDon’t: Conduct personal attacks on other commenters. Ad hominem and other distracting attacks do not add anything to the conversation.\nDon't: Insult others. Insults do not contribute to a rational discussion. Constructive Criticism, however, is appropriate and encouraged.\nDon’t: Be (intentionally) rude at all. By choosing not to be rude, you increase the overall civility of the community and make it better for all of us.\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks.", "Lol 😆" ], [ "A simple police report with your name on it without any official charge or even you spending a few nights in lockup shouldn’t be an issue. It’s just protocol they have to write up a report for any issue brought up in the station." ] ]

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[ [ "It is improving.\nPrior to moving overseas, my commute was completely by walking and by LRT (and I have friends who do that too) and going around in KL solely by public is very much possible. Any public transport system is time consuming when compared to driving, but the daily/monthly passes for citizens make it very much worth the hassle for me. I expect things will improve more once LRT3 and the MRT Circle Line are built, enhancing connectivity between lines.\nThey have a lot still to improve with respect to to bus lines and pedestrian walkability. Frequency wise, they are doing quite good even though Malaysians have unrealistic expectations of LRT operating at a 2-min frequency.\nTo compare it with capital cities of developed countries, we are still lagging behind but when looking at other developing/historically exploited countries, we are doing quite well.\nThe country I am currently living in, Japan, has some quirks too. People always talk about how good the public transportation in Japan, but once you get out of Tokyo and Osaka things start to go down. Some cities still require cars to get around properly, and with the whole population decline thing, rural train lines are actually going off one by one as they lack the ridership.\nWhat Malaysia needs to improve now, is the public transportation in cities besides KL and Penang. Kota Bharu, Kuala Terengganu, Kuantan, Alor Setar, Ipoh, Melaka, JB and Kuching all deserve a good system. It may not be full-on train lines, when a good bus system can actually do the job really well.", "Kuching desperately needs a good bus system. But no, for some reason they need a flagpole and that overdesigned Sungai Bintangor bridge.", "And they decided it is better to run a long-ass beta \"lab rat\" program to run some fake Autonomous Bus, and pump in a tons of money to have it powered by hydrogen." ], [ "The further you go into the CBD, the better it generally is. Generally, the trains are pretty great. They’re frequent enough (could be better) and they are clean and efficient. The KTM is not meant to be rapid transit, so that is why it isn’t frequent. It’s commuter rail.\nThe ETS is meant for inter-city travel throughout the north. I have never taken it before so I can’t say much about it.\nCertain journeys are convenient by train. Sunway Velocity, The Exchange, IKEA/MyTown, and Pavilion BB are on the same corridor. If you live in the city then sure you may not need a car, but even that is stretching it.\nThe problem lies in the buses and the overall city planning.\nKL has too little buses for a city its size. Despite numerous bus lanes, no driver has ever respected it, based on my experiences. The bus lanes are also limited to the inner city areas, and the outer suburbs (arguably areas that are most needing of bus services) do not have bus lanes whatsoever. Bus stops are not that well maintained. There are some nice ones with shelter, but a lot are just a pole. In Malaysia’s hot and humid weather, it is so much more important that we have shelter. There isn’t also much information on the bus stops. A lot have just nothing but a QR code to scan. A screen showing arrival times and routes would be nice. The stops also don’t have much organisation, like codes or specific names. I’d recommend a book called Better Buses, Better Cities to learn more about optimising public buses\nSo, the low number of buses, lack of respect for bus infrastructure and unprofessionalism causes low frequency and reliability.\nMalaysia is stuck deep in car-centricism. Transit-oriented development has been neglected. Most Malaysians are “hard-wired” to want to drive cars, as cars (especially expensive cars) are seen as a status symbol. So, public transport has been regarded as “lower”. This has caused development to prioritise driving instead of transit and walkability. As a result, even if the trains itself or buses are good, getting to them will be a huge problem, hence the first and last mile problem. There are a lot of other aspects to this problem that I won’t cover in the interest of time.\nIn conclusion, I would say that KL public transport is good only if you only go to certain places. Out of these limited places, either just drive or wait 45+ minutes for a bus that may not even come. And even then, driving in KL is a nightmare." ], [ "I use the public transport in KL often and have used the ones in London (almost a year there), Tokyo, Beijing (almost a year there too), HK, Singapore and Shanghai.\nFor KL, It's ok, but can be better. On a scale of 1-5 it is a 3.5.\nIt's definitely modern and good but there lots of room for improvement.\nMaintenance - of the station facilities and the train itself. How many times have you seen screens not work or lights at the station not light up or escalator rosak? Don't even mention our bus stops some are just a physical pole by the road.\nFirst and last mile - to use the MRT/LRT people need to get to the stations. In most cities mentioned above either they have bus, shared bicycles or walkable/sheltered paths. Here lots of these paths are half gone or taken up by cars whose owner think that pedestrian walkways are free real estate. Otherwise the user has to share walking path with cars on the dangerous roads or worst- highways. Creating a less car centric and more pedestrian friendly urban design can really make people want to use the public transport more but they requires effort and cooperation with the city councils.\nReliability - I mean, no public transport system is perfect. Delays or malfunctioning trains occur in other places too but the frequency of it occuring in KL is too high for a relatively new system.\nEven the ticketing machines at stations sometimes rosak. The speed at the gate opens is also slow compared SG, Tokyo or HK (they use FeliCa NFC system), even though it's a few hundred millisecond, the perceived difference is there.\nFrequency - the train frequency is considered low even during rush hour if compared to most other nations. Also for some reason Prasana thought 4 car length was enough to transport ppl in KL when many countries use 6.\nOperating hour - not much complain but would be cool if they open from 5 to 1 daily for those super early workers or super OT employees or partygoers, not just events. Cadangan only.\nSafety/commuter civics - in SG they had volunteers in MRT to make sure idiots don't do stupid things. In China there are police officers doing bag check at every entrance and on the platform to ensure safety. In KL, the polis bantuan are sometimes there but sometimes not. Look at the women coach, no one enforce. Have ppl in the train and on the platform to keep watch.\nAll in all, it's there but not quite yet. Really hoping they complete the circle line asap. Even simple things like human centric design such as having the MRT arrival TV at the entrances (so commuters can decide to stroll or parkour up to the platform) can help make the journey better." ], [ "It's improving. The last mile is where the problem is. I need to drive 3km from my apartment to LRT or KTM. I guess stay anywhere 500m away from station will solve the problem but not everyone is so rich." ], [ "its ok, not good not terrible\nKL is quite public transport friendly, buses are terrible; greater kl is not that friendly\na huge part of why its a problem is cause our city planning is trash, people are stupid, and locals go holiday compare KL to Tokyo Greenline." ], [ "It's only good when you live somewhere with direct link to mrt/lrt Station and your destination is also direct link to any mrt/lrt station. Otherwise, a car is still very necessary unless you want to risk your life every few minutes trying to cross the road with no pedestrian crossing/lights" ], [ "If you want to go to KLCC, forget about Persiaran KLCC station on the MRT Line 2. That will have you walking 10 min under the sun compared to LRT’s direct connection to the mall.\nThis is one example of poor last mile connectivity. Not to mention most of Line 2’s stops take you to places with lower footfall where ppl are better off driving anyway (eg: Equine Park, Jinjang, Kepong)" ], [ "lrt, mrt, good. monorail, mid. bus, horrible. ktm, deceased. (hopefully they will increase the frequency after track repairs)" ], [ "Not sure about KL in entirety but at least KLCC has amazing public transport, including mrt and lrt. But monorail can have higher frequency though" ], [ "A car is still essential. Outside of KLCC & Bukit Bintang area, train stations are quite far from each other, and we have poor infrastructure for pedestrians to navigate between them. LRT and MRT frequency is good for me. Bus IMO has the chicken and egg problem... people avoid it because of low frequency & still get stuck in traffic anyway, so we have less bus and bus lanes because of the lack of ridership.\nAt least things are getting better. It's unfortunate Ampang Park LRT doesn't directly connect to MRT, what a wasted opportunity. I haven't been to TRX yet though, looks neat." ], [ "I ride trains and buses to certain places including workplace. To get to the stations and stops, I have to walk under the sun and along busy street which makes it inconvenient and loud. I'm not complaining about the distance (10-15 minute walk) though as it's good for me to move around. The bus arrival time is almost always reliable with the help of Moovit app.\nConsidering where I live in is a concentrated residential area, I wish there are more locals taking public transport. Never seen the bus half full and most of the time, the passengers are foreigners. The route I am taking, there are at least 3 different bus lines and I have tried all of them. That shows how the bus facility is under appreciated." ] ]

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[ [ "Looks rather clean for an abandoned building" ], [ "looks a bit like those scene in movie, with someone locked up at the other side." ] ]

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[ [ "\"... with religious activities...\"\n💀" ] ]

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[ "Science/ Technology" ]

[ [ "Not just the Malay speaking audience, its every single society segment.\nThem young ones didn't have to troubleshoot their tech as often as millennials have to back in the day. If you never have to meddle to get things going, you won't have any incentive to learn more deeply than just using the thing.", "True. I used to think Gen Z would be better at tech so when I found the opposite, I thought it was weird until I read a similar comment like yours.\nA lot of the tech we have today is very streamlined compared to the late 90s to early 00s. They don’t grow up tinkering a PC because a phone or tablet already fulfil their needs. Wifi routers now come with apps that make set up a breeze. Pirated stuff was rampant that we learned how to detect dangerous sites and deal with malware. Printers still suck, but we have less and less reasons to even print something in the first place.\nApart from PC gamers, I could now see why Gen Z is less tech literate. It’s not their fault.", "You miss a huge point. Most of tech is now becoming less open. Everything is pretty much solder in and can't be changed. Only pc remain customizable. In the future even car knowledge is going down", "yes, which is why we need to have a right to repair thingy going on like what people are fighting for in the USA", "I agreed, I helping someone with a Computer Science degree, asked him to reseat his RAM.\nHe said he don't know how to open his PC case, and don't know how remove RAM...", "yeah! there is now entire generation that dont know how to use a game controller!", "More likely don't know how to use a physical keyboard without auto correct than controller.", "You... Did you watch Thor? That story threw cold water on me. Man, next gen gamers be wild." ], [ "its the case of anak nak gaming laptop but bapak bukan gamer. so bapak pun beli saja since it says gaming laptop. well idk what spec are we looking at but im pretty sure the newer gen stuff can be used for \"budget gaming\"", "half of my friends tak tau boleh upgrade RAM and think 8gb is the maximum..\non a 3060 laptop...", "oh man i used to game with intel intergrated graphics XD", "Integrated graphic are getting good and more efficient lately", "Speaking of which! Some of them ironically didnt know that they ran some games with integrated graphics but they didnt know.\nall they say is \"bapak ah game tgh lah sial\"", "Yo but amd intefrated graohics is freaking awesome tho. Got an old amd cpu with it for like Rm99 and it can run gta 5 high setting like a boss", "wtf really?", "the APU of Amd back then is really good for super budget setup,it still is good with the ryzen architecture", "And it’s what Steam deck based on also", "Yeah, I have a Ryzen 5600h with an integrated graphics card and it runs pretty well on 2010s games. Don't expect the same performance in modern games though.", "Here I am stressing about putting 4 stick into my mobo n if the XPM would be disabled. While simultaneously fussing about the ram timing.\nwtfisitsocomplicatedsigh", "nahh itll always folo the slowest one. just keep it simple n use same model/brand/series for all the slots.", "ignorance is bliss i guess\nthe problem is before they find out they planned to buy a new laptop.. or a prebuilt", "Some laptops can swap RAM nowadays tho, so I'd still blame it on those users for not educating themselves.", "Yeah you are right but these tiktok scammers are not selling new gen stuff, they are selling laptop 1 malaysia level chromebook from 2010's and advertise them as gaming laptops.", "owwh if thats the case we can flag that to tik tok as false advertizing. maybe go even better send to KPDN(idk what they can do rn really) XD", "Nah cuz \"gaming laptop\" is a really broad term. A laptop can be considered a gaming laptop even though it can only run minesweerper so that's an unfortunate loophole", "yeah thats quite a loophole.", "Except the people who are selling those stuff are not telling what generation CPU it is. I saw several ads telling 8th generation i7 below with no dedicated GPU \"gaming\" laptop" ], [ "I don't use TikTok but based on the stuff creators are promoting on YouTube it's pretty bad everywhere\nbomb power supplies\noverpriced trash\netc etc", "Yep same on tiktok but I think it's even worse. Promoting literal e-waste with that annoying ass voice and smug accent" ], [ "i5 i5 bagus bagus, turns out it is gen 1 i5? and the wow 16gb ddr3 ram? lol", "No shit I saw a vid saying that acer nitro 5 has 84 gb of ram lmao. I immediately called out their bullshit" ], [ "Not just Malays la. I was actually quite surprised as well. I thought in this age these new gen would be somewhat literate regarding tech. Boy was I wrong. Type keyboard guna dua jari telunjuk. Words & excel x payah cerita la. I mean. Don't they teach all these in school? I remember started to learn all this in primary school. Sudah abolished ka?" ], [ "As a millennial myself with a computer engineering background, I started to avoid answering computer illiterate person about why their laptop/PC/smartphone is too slow for gaming. I'll just tell them to go and buy the most expensive device they can afford. If the games is still lagging, that's mean you are just too poor to afford a gaming device.", "That's a very nice and simple way to put it. I'll be using your answer as well but of course without the mention of poor part hahaha" ], [ "I have a computer store and I was surprised that many customers came to me asking if Chromebook available. Most just look at price rather than spec😓", "welllllll its like that for many things really ahahaha malaysian right? ahahahaha. me imma spec person. but price.... well price is price ahahahaha gotta lower my expectations XD", "Yeah but you gotta take their budget into consideration. A lot of people can't afford a 1000+ laptop for work ya know", "Or stock the actual decent Chromebook from Joi, Acer, Asus, etc instead of out of support Chromebook from years ago." ], [ "Yeah especially when they say chromebook is good. like bruh no🤦‍♂️get a refurbished laptop instead its far better", "Nothing wrongs with Chromebook if all the user need to do is browse facebook or watch youtube and some light typing on googles docs.\nVery good battery life and relatively secure." ], [ "r u sure they dunno bout the specs\nim more astonished of the prices", "Yep. Saw one claimed acer nitro 5 has 84 gb of ram lmao", "84GB of RAM??? Gahdamn bro they tryna do server stuff for NASA bro" ], [ "Scrolled very long in Malay gaming scene and out of the many videos I only saw two honest creators smh." ], [ "Hey there, currently in the United States. The same thing can be said for more \"rural\" areas, advertisement targets lower-income and technology-illiterate individuals. even worse is the credit payment plan, since America loves credit. A cheap 300-dollar laptop can cost 1000 with interest." ], [ "A lot of people don't know how to google. I think half of our problem can be solved easily if people know how to use their phone effectively lol. Heck I think significant of my time can be reduced if my clients know how to use the internet and not just social media smh\nI own a printing store so I deal with a lot of printing stuff and I'd say 80% of my customer don't even know how to send thing through whatsapp. Also the amount of people who SCREENSHOT THE IMAGES FROM THEIR GALLERY AND SEND IT TO ME instead of just sending that goddamn original images is so damn high then they got pissed when the img is so blur", "Googling the right thing is definitely a whole separate skill. There should be a whole free course on how to properly use Google", "Well I agree, googling the right thing (niche thing I suppose) def need skill. But googling in general shouldn't be too hard like what do you mean you don't know how to find \"contoh surat rasmi buka akaun bank\" 😭", "You're right about that ain't gonna lie. There's even ChatGPT now to make it easier although giving the right prompts itself is also another whole separate skill 😭😭 Not a W situation at all hahaha", "Googling isn't hard, it just not the default behaviour anymore. I've noticed that more and more people prefer to be fed information rather than seeking it out themselves.\nIt's not that Googling is hard, it's just it doesn't even cross their minds to do it." ], [ "I am guilty. I have zero knowledge of computers.", "That's what google is for my dude. Just search up linus laptop buying guide and learn from there. Oh and avoid the malay speaking side at all cost cuz most of them are shills", "Go to buildapc before buying anything!" ], [ "Those are mostly kampung people who are less likely to be technologically literate.", "Yeah I know. Really sad to see tbh cuz they are getting scammed hard" ], [ "It's norm wait till you join pc group and just to watch drama unfold." ], [ "can you share those tiktok acc? would love to expose them", "Search up gaming laptop on tiktok and you'll find plenty" ], [ "People nowadays do not bother to Google and do any basic research before buying anything. Surprisingly from my circle of friends this goes the same with degree graduates." ], [ "GAMING PC MURAH BOLEH MAIN PUBG , DOTA2.\nSPEC : 2nd Gen i5 + GT730.\nTechnically can play PUBG and Dota 2 at 14fps at 720p..", "Then they sell it for 2000 lol" ], [ "We are NOT yet a first world country and many people in Mlysia are not ICT expert,please be real", "Yeah I know. But at the very least they have the knowledge of googling what this and that is. Instead, they just blindly believe what this random person on the internet is saying", "Maybe they are dumb, truly dumb" ], [ "I don’t play games. So I just buy a M3 MacBook Pro and upgraded the ram to 16GB." ], [ "Another thing people often overlook in laptop specs is GPU wattage. There's a reason why some laptops are cheaper than their counterparts (+quality).", "I made that mistake with my previous gaming laptop. I got a Dell G3 the cheap one with GTX 1650. I didn't know the TGP was pretty low at the time. The i5-9300h was also probably bottlenecking my laptop. It was a rookie mistake. Now I moved over to the Lenovo LOQ series with my GPU having 115W TGP. No regrets." ], [ "What are their specs?", "Intel celeron should tell you everything. The other one i saw was a chromebook that can't even run the os properly", "💀\nAnd they are passing them off as gaming laptops? That's a scam.", "celeron? lol wtf" ], [ "If anyone here is looking for a gaming laptop and can at least understand English, I recommend this youtuber called Jarrod's Tech. He helped me in my decision to get my gaming laptop and so far I'm very happy with my purchase." ], [ "Can play Dota2, cannot play Minecraft" ], [ "Business opportunities selling refurbished business or office laptop that just decommissioned." ], [ "most people are not interested in learning stuff outside their interest, like food folks will be ignorant to what they eat.\nit is just for some of us, interest had to be learnt the hard way when we were growing up." ], [ "I know a ton of people that put their Wifi router in a cabinet somewhere, or behind their TV, and yet blame TM for shitty connections." ], [ "Thats why Malaysia is syurga scammer." ], [ "I think the people who usually fall for all this stuff usually dont have the time to actually do research on the matter (too many other commitments), or they are just too trusting especially when its a source they are comfortable with (influencer, friend, uncle etc) or they are just dumb MFs. Its not just a malay thing, its a people thing." ], [ "Honestly, I myself had lost track of todays gaming tech. I was a gamer back in the days, and my knowledge in pc can be considered advanced. But nowadays, im totally lost. In terms of OS and softwares, I am still up to date a bit, but in terms of hardware.... nope. My knowledge are more towards phones now.\nWhen buying a pc or laptop, i just find my friend who is knowledgeable in this, tell him what i want to do, my budget, and then he will list down the specs that meets my needs.\nI dont even remember the graphic card used for my son pc. Hahahaha" ], [ "As a millennial, I see a profit opportunity. If that's what the consumer wants, its what the market will provide." ] ]

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[ [ "No fireworks at Mardeka too?? I was at KLCC, they just had fountains and the tower had a lightshow for 50 seconds maybe.", "There's was an official announcement from KLCC a few days ago saying they will not have any fireworks display.", "Went there last night too at klcc, whoever sold those horns… you need to get your noggin bonked" ] ]

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[ [ "The question is do I have to attend court and pay?\nIf a magistrate summons you, you better show up.", "Agreed. OP, just show up during court, make a statement that you are wrong in this situation and try to make an appeal for the fines given by the judge. Prepare to bring some cash as well." ], [ "Better attend. If lucky, may be offered discount" ], [ "Straight to jail" ], [ "Dude, chill. You can usually settle the fine online. Check the PDRM website or call them to confirm. Save yourself from court drama, and next time, set a reminder for that license renewal." ] ]

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[ [ "You take their land, habitat and trees and then get angry when they shit.. what they are supposed to do? Use the toilet? The minor inconvenience of shitting is enough for you to kill and take a life?", "Exactly. Do we have any forest left for animals to live in? Our royals will strip and sell every last tree and parcel of land for profit and these poorfags will be raging against dogs and crows for shitting on their 15 year old c1bai axia that they paid rm40k for because we need to protect daihatsu and Geely from open market competition.\nGo kill a bunch of harmless animals to get over your pathetic miserable lives." ], [ "Councils tend to shoot the crows now and then.\nNever heard of anything being done against the pigeons though - in fact more often than not I see people feed them.", "Some believe more pigeons at your shop = more wealth." ], [ "Bangsar need to sort out this problem. Last time went for mamak and park near the mall area there my car literally covered in bird poo. Will think the second time when going to bangsar again." ], [ "Yeah, those winged poop machines can be a real headache. Some folks write complaints, but it's like telling pigeons to follow traffic rules – good luck. Maybe invest in an umbrella hat?" ] ]

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[ [ "The lesson is a public listed company backed by multiple reputable banks can be a scam/ hoax too." ], [ "Just watched it and yes, BMF was also the first thing that came to my mind when “bank persekutuan” and “Timurlaysia” were mentioned" ], [ "Haha yes.. good way to learn of past saga before 1mdb scandal. Your parents may heard of this as well." ], [ "is this movie in cantonese or Mandarin in malaysia?", "Cantonese, nei hiu kwang tung wa mou?" ], [ "I watched boy and the heron instead, quite regret it honestly", "Not good meh?" ], [ "gonna look it up. thanks!\nedit: quite good reviews at Rotten. interesting!", "Ohh its actually The Goldfinger not Golden Finger 😅", "Like the James Bond film?" ], [ "lol bn apologists gonna have a tough time defending their lords again and again and again..\n1mdb, bmf...what next ? Perwaja? or the forex loses we faced?\nonly one thing ties it up altogether, umno..." ], [ "will watch definitely!" ], [ "Wow, I only knew about IMF, which corruption scandal tied back to our current PM." ], [ "Imagine this movie getting banned here lmao" ], [ "Probably where Jho Low/ Ah Jib gor got his inspiration" ], [ "It’s always Mahathir….\nhttps://www.malaymail.com/amp/news/malaysia/2017/01/24/declassified-cia-documents-suggest-dr-ms-links-to-bmf-scandal/1299821" ], [ "I thought for a moment that they were remaking the Bond film" ] ]

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[ [ "the fastest way to have the city council up your ass is to run an unlicensed billiards hall.", "So its illegal then...got it. Thanks for info👍", "there's plenty of \"illegal\" stuff you can do outside your license, like selling sundries or whatever, and no one will care. particularly billiards is dangerous." ] ]

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[ [ "KL and Malaysia as a whole isn't very cycling friendly, you can watch this Danish vlogger who has lived in Malaysia for 10+ years, he has been filming himself cycling in Klang Valley area, by watching his video you can get a general sense of how KL/Malaysia cycling infrastructure looks like\nhttps://youtube.com/@mysustainablefuture", "wow this guy is determined 😅" ], [ "Our city is not really cyclist friendly, it's actually quite dangerous to ride around if you're not familiar with the road." ], [ "horrible, it's basically a try not to die situation here. all we have are just painted bicycle gutters. most of the time, motorcyclists use the cycling lanes" ], [ "None." ], [ "KL's got some decent cycling paths, especially around parks like KLCC and Taman Botani. For a cycling tour, check out \"Bike with Elena.\" Just watch out for the traffic – it's like playing Frogger on two wheels. 🚴‍♂️" ], [ "I like to cycle around the city, not for commuting but leisure sightseeing. I will plan my route and avoid big highway whenever necessary.\nI ride around with a foldable, so I could just bring it into the trains and subway if I wanted go further without risking my life cycling on the highway.\nOn the weekend however, many cyclist can be seen cycling along the highway in the morning before the traffics picks up. I'm just not into those sort of cycling." ] ]

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[ [ "From what i understand from this. You are supposed to update it. So probably no", "Good 😂😂😂😂 I doesn't gov get our personal info 😂", "Gov don't know your name? XD", "Unless you never pay taxes, the government already know you income anyway." ], [ "I heard it will IF you have filed your incum tax. So when i check it out on Jan 2 I expect to see all my details - up to and including my Covid jabs.\nOf course, if it doesn't crash 1st :26554:", "I think it will not crash as it's didn't give you any money to update,😂😂😂😂😂" ], [ "Reject this PADU aka Digital ID dictator bullshit.\nIt is as if the only solution to fuel subsidy is to give up our privacy and get the people of Malaysia further segmented, first by race, now by income.\nHow are they going to further divide us? They can use PADU as a SSO for webservices, and rat out who are critical of them online.\nAnd boom you lose all sort of subsidies.", "Yes, I think I don't want to update the info. This is terrible", "Sadly many monyet in this sub has Govern-Me-Harder mentality." ], [ "You don't pay income tax or have EPF?", "😂😂😂😂😂 terrible 😔" ], [ "https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/amp/category/nation/2022/11/08/invoke-staff-will-get-shares-when-company-is-listed-says-rafizi/" ] ]

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[ [ "Rendang is from Indonesia, laksa is from Thailand, even our bak kut teh is southern Chinese.\nIt's new year eve, people are allowed to get high all day.", "You have the green light now go 😂" ], [ "Nasi Goreng USA and Chicken Chop comes to my mind, oh and Budu lol", "Can’t say budu much, it can originate from thailand cause they have a similar fermented fish sauce called pla-ra and taste is similar to budu oops" ], [ "Nasi lemak is more Malay-cuisine food rather than Malaysian. There are a lot of Malays in Indonesia, especially in Riau and Sumatra who has also been eating nasi lemak for centuries.", "I thought Indonesia is Nasi Uduk? It's still santan based rice, but the spices used is different and the sides is also different.", "I agree. While a lot of people like to say that nasi uduk is Indonesia's nasi lemak, the two dishes are distinctly different. The spice blend and condiments are different, resulting in each having its own unique aroma and taste." ], [ "Bak kut teh is invented in Malaysia. So is pan mee - especially chili pan mee." ], [ "yee sang was invented by anthony loke father:29091:" ], [ "Cambodia and Thailand have their version of nasi lemak but without sambal.\nKolo mee is just a variation of wanton mee.\nNasi talipot in Sabah and Nasi Kerabu?\nBKT is original Klang Crusine. Hokkien mee (big noodle in black caramel sauce) is original Malaysian no?\nHow is laksa Thai? I thought it was uniquely Malaysian." ], [ "Malaysian western food, chicken chop is invented in Malaysia.\nIn fact, you can't find chicken chop in western countries" ], [ "Its crazy how Chicken Chop is the only modern day food from Malaysia that I known originated here (Plus we all first thought it was a western food right?)" ], [ "Geez where the heck is your homework from? By your logic, all food is from Africa because all humans are from Africa. The techniques, knowhow and philosophy are always from elsewhere but the resulting product and dish due to difference in produce, weather, influence and geography, is what makes them local and in this case, Malaysian.\nRendang: Yes more Indonesian than Malaysian but Rendang Tok is renowned from Perak. Typically Malaysian rendang is a lot less dry than Indonesian rendang.\nLaksa: Please enlighten me on what the Thai so called 'origin of laksa' is called? Similar to which one? Penang's tamarind asam laksa? Sarawak prawn and egg laksa? Melaka's coconut nyonya laksa? Yeah I don't think so.\nBak kut teh: Even if there is a precursor in southern China (the CCP may well have fabricated one just like they did for Yang Zhou fried rice, which is from HK), is it as significant to the people there as it is to the people in Klang? If you travel to the West and find BKT, will it be more similar to the Klang variant or Chinese variant? If it's the Klang variant then Malaysia will claim that, thank you very much.\nKolo mee: The style of dish is essentially Hakka mee and common everywhere, but the unique curly noodles (in contrast to Kampua mee) are locally manufactured and the red variant with char siu sauce is definitely local.\nFinally, to answer your question, here are some dishes off the top of my head:\nNasi lemak\nBak kut teh\nKL Hokkien char mee\nChicken chop\nChilli pan mee\nSalai masak lemak\nPongteh\nNyonya laksa\nAsam pedas\nLontong kering\nPatin tempoyak\nNasi kukus\nNasi dagang\nNasi kerabu\nLaksam\nKai si hor fun\nAsam laksa\nNasi kandar\nPasembur\nChar kuey teow\nPenang Hokkien prawn mee\nNasi daging air asam\nBihun sup daging\nTuaran mee\nPinasakan\nKolo mee\nSarawak laksa\nManok pansuh", "Hmm curious, what is you source to say Yang Zhou fried rice came from Hongkong, and not Yang Zhou, China?", "Ask and you shall receive. https://youtu.be/J3ahehPxJHE?si=gLVn_3xab-MiRa2N", "Huh.. that 1 minute video provided no proof whatsoever. It just claimed \"just go online and you will know that both (Yangzhao fried rice and Hokkien Fried rice), are Yue 粤 dishes\".\nAnd HongKong does not own Yue, culture. Guangdong is also Yue, and on the mainland.\nNot even talking about the political status of the current HongKong, if it was created before British colonisation, wouldn't it still be counted as from China?", "Ooh wow I feel your butthurt. Proof? It’s more than enough of an argument to persuade me, because it’s just food buddy. It’s not like killing citizens for protesting.", "Wow.. saying it is HK is an 'argument' for you.\nI was curious because the name LITERALLY says Yang Zhou fried rice.\nSure thing mate.. Oh by the way, paper, compass gun powder were all invented in HK too. It was invented in mainland China initially, but after a crackdown on protesters, the inventor magically changed to HK.\nOh and by the way Isaac Newton became Malaysian, since GB invaded and killed so many Indians, but is now also HK after May 13 incident.\n:).", "I was curious because the name LITERALLY says Yang Zhou fried rice.\nHokkien mee (be it KL, Singapore, or Penang) is not from Fujian. Ragu Genovese is made in Naples instead of Genoa. Baked Alaska is from New York City.\nConsider your curiosity quenched.", "Ohhh.... I will take those at face value.\nIn any case no proof that YangZhou Fried rice is from HK though, so I am going to disregard what you said and follow the general consensus that it was created by a magistrate of Yangzhou.", "Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt that it was created in Yangzhou, the argument that one would stir-fry sea cucumbers and scallops with fried rice, let alone have that popularised to the masses, is far-fetched. And there's no doubt the dish is popular. I'm just far more interested in the popularised version of the dish which I believe means more to the Cantonese and overseas Chinese, than the 'notarised' version does to the good people of Yangzhou.\nIt just sounds far more likely to me that it's an effort from the Chinese to compensate for their self-eroded traditions with a conveniently-named dish." ], [ "Dey Laksa is Perlisian lah. We made it first.", "Thailand used to control Perlis before they had to cede it to the British.", "Yes. We have unique identity. Not to Malaysian not too Thai" ], [ "I suggest you check out ikanmas.in for the origin stories of many Malaysian food. A lot of the iconic food we have today is the result of migrants recreating their hometown's food using locally available ingredients, and made for the local palate e.g. kek lapis, roti canai, pulut mangga, ipoh sar hor fun\nSometimes our version is superior to its original counterpart due to the intermingling of local cultures e.g. curry chee cheong fun, nyonya kuih, kam heong crab etc.\nAso in regards to rendang, it is the creation of Minangkabau people, but it is also created specifically for their frequent travels between Indonesia and Malaysia. So Malaysia played a part in its creation story." ], [ "There are no \"original\" Malaysian food. Malaysian cuisine is a mixture of regional cuisines, either from the \"Malay world\", China, India and the Middle East. Everything from roti canai (India), nasi lemak (regional), CKT (southern China), laksa (regional), satay (Indonesia), rojak (Indonesia) etc.", "We are the poster child of liminal countries. Traders, preachers, explorers, migrants all came from somewhere else, stay here awhile, and will be moving onto someplace else later." ], [ "BKT & Laksa is local, there are influences but its unique to the region\npan mee and its similar variants are quite unique to us.\nthere are quite a few more really, soong beef noodles, hokkien mee etcetc\ngoing by your logic no dish belongs anywhere, som tam would be laotian" ], [ "Laksa sarawak Nasi kerabu" ], [ "OP got his facts from a kopitiam conversation" ], [ "Ayam golek, Ayam masak merah, Ayam Titanium" ], [ "Asking what is originally malaysian food is like asking for original american foods\nIt's ridiculous, since this nation is built off different cultures interacting with each other." ], [ "i don't know how much indonesian or derive from other nation can it be, but umbut masak lemak putih sounds and taste pretty traditional malay for me. also have you ever heard of ikan pekasam? paling-paling busuk nasi dagang pernah makan tak?\nOP really needs to touch grass further than his backyard" ], [ "Pisang goreng cheese viral. Also no such thing as food that originates from Singapore." ], [ "Ayam percik, nasi kerabu, nasi dagang, nasi ulam, peknga" ], [ "there's no originality when it comes to food, if you dig deep enough, everyone copied something." ] ]

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[ [ "" ], [ "Us lonely people stay at home with our best friend, computer", "Alone but not lonely! 😆 pretty sure some of us also have chosen to stay home", "Same here OP! Ordered in some food and gonna find a good flick to watch ☺️", "Nice! I’ve been on Netflix documentaries marathon since afternoon 😂" ], [ "Imagine myself outside with a bunch of friends counting down…..\nI’m just at home with my dog watching some tv shows. No GF no besties to spend it with.", "Spending it with yer dog also very nice ah!", "Thank you :D! Happy New Year and may 2024 be a wickedly awesome year for you my friend.\nI hope 2024 turns out to be better than 2023 for me personally." ], [ "Finishing Red Dead Redemption 2", "Good luck champ. Best game for me" ], [ "Going to gym to be the first person who bench 100kg in 2024.", "TeamNoSleep" ], [ "Making my newborn baby sleep and hope he does not woke up due to fireworks lol", "Aw haha! Funny my friend says shes gonna stay home too so that her cats wouldn’t freak out bcuz of the fireworks 🥹" ], [ "I'm literally in front of my computer reading manga while scrolling on Reddit. Maybe I'll do some diamond painting later" ], [ "Game, work tomorrow.", "Are you in the retail or service industry? 😊", "Retail" ], [ "Bro, I need to submit FYP before 12am. 😔. Guess I just pretend to enjoy doing my Final year project only lor", "Broooo so last min ah u haha!" ], [ "Shooting the fireworks... By myself.", "Broooo", "Shot the fireworks... By myself." ], [ "I'm actually so bored I started working lmao.", "😭😭😭 anything but work" ], [ "plan?" ], [ "Sleep at home" ], [ "You mean you netflix and chill or you NETFLIX AND CHILL?", "In literal sense only 😝" ], [ "Sleep. Tomorrow still had to work bro:26559:", "😿brooo" ], [ "netflix, wandering inside my own head and just live another day like the usual", "It really is just another day ☺️", "i’d like to believe that new year is just a state of mind, you can have new year everyday as long as you keep that mindset because after all we’re our own universe" ], [ "Wish all of you a prosperous and happy new year 2024. That's my plan." ], [ "Just outside of my house with stray cats while watching people playing fireworks and also playing Mobile Legends." ], [ "watched Pendatang movie with burger ayam double cheese special at home. syok apaaa" ], [ "Sitting on my bed. Came to my room 2023. Leaving for 2024" ], [ "Gonna stay at home, reflect on some life lessons learnt in 2023 and hopefully not make the same mistakes on 2024. Then keep my cats company so they don’t get scared by the fireworks.\nHappy new year everyone 😊" ], [ "sleep" ], [ "PLAY BALDUR GATE 3" ], [ "Booked an Airbnb near TRX, chill with some friends" ], [ "Open up Animal Crossing New Horizons, docked it on the TV, celebrate the New Year's Eve with my wife (who is playing the game too), and those animal villagers that I have." ], [ "Netflix and chill because im so done with people" ], [ "Play lethal company\nFUN" ], [ "Gonna sleep through it cause 1/1 is not a holiday in Johor 😆", "Say what?", "Yup, not all states have 1/1 as public holiday.", "🥹" ], [ "I thought the fire works were cancelled because of Gayyyzaaaa." ], [ "All NYE events were cancelled for solidarity with Palestine and flood victims.", "Not true. There are countdown concerts at TRX & Sunway Velocity 🙃🙂", "Waiting for comments commenting about the countdown concerts being insensitive", "This is why I’m in Bangkok watching scantily clad girls prance about on stage while waiting for fireworks.", "Happy for you", "If only Malaysia would dedicate Langkawi to scantily clad dancing girls. 😂" ], [ "work", "💪🏽" ], [ "Trying to finish a book.", "That’s nice, I could only manage 1-2 pages before i pass out 😂" ], [ "nice great view directly at KL center in my room, thats good enough for fireworks this year, usually go out with friends but not this year, bit lazy", "Nice! I’m very very lazy too lol" ], [ "Need plan?" ], [ "Dinner at The Traveling Duck then Goldfinger movie. With family & partner. Just nice.", "Niceeee!" ], [ "I'm old. I plan on being asleep by 10pm.", "I would want to sleep earlier if i can lol" ], [ "Working till 11pm and tidur. Never celebrate this.", "I like the idea that New Year gives a sense of fresh beginning 😊That said, I prefer to ‘celebrate’ Jan 1st." ], [ "I'm sitting on the couch and questioning my whole year of 2023. Kinda anxious to start my new year.", "Treat it as a great opportunity to start things anew and with hope 😊" ], [ "As I get older, staying at home is the best.", "Word." ], [ "My post Covid joint pain and lethargy ensures I don't go anywhere", "Ahhh, hope u feel better soon!" ], [ "Netflix and karaoke at home with the fam", "Karaoke, that’s cute! Haha" ], [ "Cry myself to sleep", "Nooooo 😭" ], [ "Comforting all my dogs and cats coz fireworks 😭", "😭😭😭😭" ], [ "Celebrating NY in game." ], [ "Watch anime, play games, jerk off, etc. Same old same old." ], [ "I kena covid for 3 times, 2 times on end of december and I'm quarantine in my room now. I wish I got to celebrate new year eve outside next year.", "Aw, you will be by end of next year! Speedy recovery to you!" ], [ "As someone live and work in JB “you guys celebrate New Year’s Eve?”", "Honestly didn’t know that 😕" ], [ "Cutie coming over to Netflix and chill ^", "🥳" ], [ "Usually house parties. This year decided to go to Langkawi - randomly", "I like this random plan heh" ], [ "stay at home, watch letsplay horror vids on youtube. i just don't want to get into an accident and die while celebrating new years lol", "Brooo 🥲😂", "it's true haha. there's bound to be accidents and deaths this new year!" ], [ "McD & YouTube for me" ], [ "When young, go out watch fireworks with my dog. Now that he has passed away, i just stay home lay in bed and checkout on shopee at midnight to save rm5" ], [ "Reading a book and then stuffing 12 grapes in my mouth before 12.01am then back to reading my book." ], [ "Alone, gaming, sleep" ], [ "Apply kerja 😢", "Hey Happy New Year and all the best to you! I will also have to start applying haha" ], [ "I was celebrating with my vtuber waifus. The hololive event was amazing." ], [ "Need to be giga Chad to the gym\nIs what my resolution every years" ], [ "Watching firewoks from home" ], [ "Nothing, more playing games, drink some cocoa\nPlanning to doodle some more OC stuff" ], [ "Well I was sad to hear KLCC wouldn't have a fireworks show so would've gone there. Still enough fireworks are the house :D" ], [ "i stayed at home and play state of decay 2" ], [ "Finished Hogwarts Legacy.\nI feel more satisfaction than go out count down and stuck at Highway for more than 1 hour" ] ]

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[ [ "For Malaysian memes every day of the week, please check out c/memeeveryday at our sister community monyet.cc! (why?)\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns." ], [ "Not sure of the format. but i geddit :29091:" ], [ "Can't wait till 3A/3April/2023A" ], [ "Peterrr helppp i dont get ittt", "Chinese word for 4 is bad luck.", "Wasnt it death?", "It is, that's why is bad luck or bad omen", "Thanks", "It is death, that'd be why in chinese hotel you will not find level 4, there are only level 3 and 3A for the 4th floor" ], [ "Drake Hotline Bling Meme", "*starts playing the Arabic remix" ], [ "32/12/2023" ], [ "Was wondering what does it mean... lampi betul hahahaha. Happy new year everyone!" ], [ "2024 babyyyy, hasta la muerte", "I meannn Japan is currently having an earthquake", "They have earthquakes on a yearly if not monthly basis my guy." ], [ "Chinese Sci-fi\nin the far far future of 3A3A3A3A, Human falls to google who then falls to tiktok who then fall to Bing, truly a fate worse then death" ], [ "I hope by 203A3A, I have a kid who's finished high school with flying colors.... but I'm getting waaay ahead of myself\nAnyway, Selamat Tahun Baru, semua❤️" ], [ "curious, did the same meme ran for 2013A?" ], [ "2023A is the lawak tandas of this year NYE celebration", "it's funny" ], [ "4/4/2024...", "3A/3A/2023A" ], [ "Mengarut." ], [ "2023 called and asked for the joke back.\nGuys, it's already stale, 4 isn't something we Chinese get fussed that much lah, 3A or 4 is just a preference. We deal with it instead of protesting and screaming agenda Yahudi.", "I thought it wasn't a big deal as well until people started having level 3A and 13A in buildings. That much work is a big deal.", "You know I've seen a big tauke demand they paint a wall red because he wanted it despite ruining the facade?", "what's your point?", "Things like these are usually the decision from one fella. Tauke no like, so change.\nBut most of us can deal with it, the reason why they put 3A is because they want to make sure the 4th floor sells out. That's all.", "so people might not buy if the floor was labeled as 4th?", "Some people won't.", "OK then it's not the tauke's decision. He's just listening to the market.\nIt seems to be a big deal to some people, and a big deal enough for the tauke to go through all that trouble.", "Both lah, tauke can be annoying AF with unreasonable demands, and also having 3A means 4th floor can be easier to sell.\nBut, I'd be happy to bet money you'll see Chinese living in 4th floor anyway. Some of us mind, some of us don't", "fair enough", "Haha cina scare 4:26561:", "Haha Yahudi coming to take your rights. /s" ], [ "lol. Happy New Year, Happy 2024 ! Let's Go !!!" ], [ "I remember joking that i will respond to a scene with a 444 patch on my arm, lets just say I got the desired reaction form my cina friends" ], [ "I gotta say, being afraid of puns is pretty much a solid reason to never judge others' beliefs.", "Agreed. Likewise, being afraid of crosses is also a solid reason to never judge others' beliefs, or concert, or wishing merry Christmas, or national language being used in forbidden stuff", "being afraid of crosses is dumb🤣\nnice strawmanning" ], [ "Only in China" ], [ "1/1/2023 Part2" ], [ "LMAO i'm chinese but it took me a solid 5 seconds to get it... happy new year!" ] ]

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[ [ "Khat issue was probably DAP’s worst managed PR crisis. Got called both race traitors and anti-Malay throughout the whole thing while MCA, Dong Zong, and Mandarin newspapers just continued fanning the fire\nDAP had its share of gaffes in 2023 but, credit to Anthony, are all better managed than that.", "I always tell people that MCA was behind all this- and got the Mandarin papers & Dong Zong to be in cahoots with them. They made hell load of noise during PH1.0 rule.\nProof? After the Sheraton Move, all the noise from MCA stopped. DZ said that the matter has \"been settled internally\". UMNO, PAS & Bersatu (kononnya terpaling Melayu Islam) pun didn't bother to put it back in the textbooks.\nThe terpaling Cina MCA and terpaling Meu UMNO & PAS played mind games with us just to sabotage DAP and PH. Damn bloody smart.", "I can’t stand with Dong Zong. Look at the textbook of UEC, bunch of outdated materials.\nWe could expect this as MCA need to get the attention from DAP. They need to do that for survival. Plus LGE fumes with the TARUC fund.\nLuckily LGE is no longer Sec general for DAP. He really should retire after his pathetic performance in Ministry of Finance. But look at current politics in Penang, CKW is really got attacked by him and his fellow.", "LGE fumes with the TARUC fund.\nTbh, what LGE propose was actually right, by right a educational institution should not be control by a political party. He say time and time again, that the intention was the allocated fund will be managed by the University board of trustee rather than MCA board.\nIn the end, the fund was still given regardless no? But the narrative that Guan Eng did not give money to TARUMT still persist to this day." ], [ "I dont know if this in an unpopular opinion or not but honestly, the whole Jawi fiasco and the people who are against it is so stupid. Jawi is just a writing form just like Latin and Kanji. My dad took some Jawi lessons at school and we're still Indian Hindus cause me and my family aren't insecure to our religion. I personally had some of my Malay friends thought me and my friends to write Jawi as a past time and we in return teach them Tamil and Chinese scriptures. There's nothing wrong learning Jawi as it is just another way to write Malay and it has nothing to do with religion. However, that being said, I feel our education system should focus on bigger issues such as the use AI in homework and projects, the lack of students entering science stream, the outdated exam formats we have and many more.", "As a non-Muslim bumiputera (who has a casual interest in learning languages) I feel the same way too.\nI think the reason why so many people were against it was largely due to misunderstanding and ignorance of what Jawi actually is, and its value as part of not only Malaysian but Nusantara heritage. A lot of people think that Jawi = Arabic language/Islam/etc, but it is in fact just the Malay language written in a modified Arabic script. It's just like writing Malay in other scripts, e.g. katakana or hangul.\nThe more important question is how the syllabus should be handled. This should be made clear to everyone, especially those who are less familiar with what Jawi really is.", "However, that being said, I feel our education system should focus on bigger issues such as the use AI in homework and projects, the lack of students entering science stream, the outdated exam formats we have and many more.\nExactly", "...There's nothing wrong learning Jawi...\n...I feel our education system should focus on bigger issues...\nYou think the issue is stupid but you've basically surmised why people don't see the point of adding it to our education system.\nThe only benefit this'll have is for nons to (somehow) become more buddy buddy with the Muslims; go find another way to achieve that mate.", "I almost never used cursive writing. Was I forced to do it? Yes. Do I hate that I was forced to do it? Not really. Do you also think extracurricular activities are a waste of time? Jawi is a significant part of our nation's history whether people like it or not.", "Wait exams format are outdated? I dont agree. Its just a small aspect of exams but I think KBAT/HOTS question is one of the best exam system out there. The fact that there is no right or wrong answer, and it gives you the most point.", "Maybe I should've worded it correctly. What I meant to say is that our education system is only exam focus and not concentrating on other areas like practical educations as well as teachers teaching students how to answer the paper instead of learning something at school. I have already forgotten certain things I learned in SPM already.", "Why the fuck should we learn something that is not beneficial when we have our fair share of useless subjects in school already. Teach students what they need to know instead of this nonsense.", "Saying that a writing system of a national language that is in a significant part of Malaysia's history and still used today as \"nonsense\" is exactly why some rural Malays have distrust against a particular group of people", "If they make it as an optional class or after school event, it might be a better solution.\nLike after school 1 hour to learn basic Jawi, all race from all religion can join.\nI as a non-Muslim and non-Malay will join the class lol.", "The reason to learn it is mostly because it's still being used. Not all malays are fluent in reading jawi either. The main point to learn is to at least have a basic knowledge to read it. I also don't think there are such things as useless knowledge. Learning jawi for me is just like learning idiom or pantun or formal writing format or art or kawad kaki. Not everyone really uses all the knowledge that we learn at school but it will be useful at some point either directly or indirectly. I also don't think it's that difficult, put 1 chapter about introduction and basics of jawi in buku teks BM darjah 5 and settle. Move on and forget about it.", "Can't reply to the other comment but jawi is obsolete and has been replaced by rumi. At best, it's basically like calligraphy so I don't see the point of it. To learn a language, you need consistent use of it. Learning it simply from the textbook is not going to work. I remember back then they had sign language in the BM textbook and nobody can remember them after a month because it's not used again.", "Jawi is not a language.", "Jawi is not obsolete. It is still being used in certain official documents. Legal documents written in Jawi are valid for usage in official matters without having to be translated or transliterated.", "It's fun, pretty, part of the nation's heritage and can help with picking up Arabic. If you had to optimise what kids learn in school, probably can remove art, music (lower median salary) or kemahiran hidup (can hire/buy services) or history (they're not living in the past!).\nLest we forget it's for them to become more well-rounded humans, not just productive cogs.", "Agree 100%. Politicians only need local or 3R issue to goreng. Main reasons they dont mingle with outside world to know how backward we are.", "this 10000%", "Why do you think that 3 pages of jawi can apparently teach you the point where you can fluently write Jawi. It's essentially just \"btw those jawi word in our bank notes meant this and that\" THATS IT. It's not an entire chapter dedicated to forcing to be fluent in learning the language." ], [ "Chinese here. I do think learning it is great. Heck, to learn new stuff is always welcomed. But, it's better for education to focus more on improving what we have, not to let us lag behind other countries year after year. The addition of Jawi is nice, even better if the actual improvement is focused for our overall system.\nEdit : https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/12/06/drop-in-pisa-scores-worldwide\nLink showing our lag in the education matter. It's bad. We've fallen each year since 2016 if you look deeper into the thing.", "I think it's great to learn new language but if the education system is failing then it pretty much like adding fuel into fire.", "It needs an overhaul. The system failed cause they tune down the difficulty year after year to accommodate the scores. eg; how many pass the exams per year. We are now ranked way below average worldwide. We are on average 3 years behind in comparison to Singapore. Meaning budak sekolah kita dajah 4 sama dengan dajah 1 di Singapore. Malu tak? Don't need to be like Singapore cause they are really kinda nuts, but at least we need it to be better to not lead to the situation now. A 3 year gap is a jaw dropping situation.", "And also it quite surprising that even Vietnam managed to beat us hell even ukraine a country in middle of a war can still perform better than us.", "They put effort into it. Not Nampak budak gagal, kita buatkan senang supaya nampak cantik. Tapi minta ku ajar betul betul tu susah sangat. Ubah score kan senang je.\nTo hit their quota to look good, they did this. Vietnam and Ukraine education have the foresight to look further ahead. We Malaysians are labeled as dumb kids. Ehh ace student from Malaysia? Pfft, must be a joke.\nThe statistics show. So now if you get a degree, it's normal to get out done by others from other countries applying for the same job. Or to say, entering higher education schools like masters or whatnot. And your salary will definitely be lower too, cause you're labeled as meh.", "except its not a language. just a different writing system. i can read it better than most people but its only been \"useful\" when this subreddit has those posts about ads from the 90s talking about guinness beer being advertised in Jawi", "Yupe, you are correct. I should have known better.", "Saya cina share the same views. No issue on Jawi. Just another language. Should make it as available as bahasa cina and bahasa tamil", "Not exactly new language. Its another form of writing for Bahasa Malaysia. Kinda like Romanise hanyu pinyin and hanzi. So learning it should be under BM class rather than under Islamic religious class.", "As many mentioned here, Jawi is a form of script/writing, not a new language. It's like arabic but with some additional letters to support Malay language. I guess PH failed big time when they can't even explain that to the masses.", "Jawi is just letters, its not a language. You wont understand arabic, you wont learn Islam.\nI think you probably can learn it a month or so. I don't know the correct term, but jawi is just like katakana, meaning it doesnt have vowels accept maybe for \"A\" and \"I\"\nMy point, the fear of jawi was from the lack or understanding, due to PH failure to properly explain / market it. Its just fancy latters so we seem I dont think it will effect our PISA or whatever.", "But jawi can unite us like captain america in the avengers end game movie and everything will eventually become fine after that \\s", "The reason to learn it is mostly because it's still being used. Not all malays are fluent in reading jawi either but the main point to learn is to at least have a basic knowledge to read it. I also don't think there are such things as useless knowledge. Learning jawi for me is just like learning idiom or pantun or formal writing format or art or kawad kaki. Not everyone really uses all the knowledge that we learn at school but it will be useful at some point either directly or indirectly. I also don't think it's that difficult, put 1 chapter about the introduction and basics of jawi in buku teks BM darjah 5 and settle. Move on and forget about it." ], [ "there are a lot of invested parties in malaysia, nons and malays alike whose goal is to keep people separated.", "Pecah dan perintah, the only people benefited are the one up there, while the others fighting with each other like a moron.", "Better to keep it separated if people equal unity with cultural genocide.\nMaking the whole population Muslim is not unity.", "Found the Chinese uncle", "And you thought that is an insult.\nWhat a pity creature.", "tag MCA" ], [ "There is no issue learning JAWI, as long the government can guaranteed Jawi is not linked to Islam and there is no restriction on JAWI usage.\nLike if I want to translate the entire Bible, Torah, or other religion holy book to Jawi, there should be no issue.\nOr if I want to put Jawi in non-Halal stuff like beer and BKT, there should be no issue.\nOr If I want create a banner in Christmas in Jawi should be no issue.", "Imo, the missing voices after she raton move is mainly due to increased awareness and knowledge of what jawi/khat is. I'm not sure about you but I definately learned more about those through other people than dap. So in the end I think there are less people making noice about that issue when they realised that it is not going to impact them as negatively as they initially thought.", "Kinda agree actually.\nThe reason to learn it is mostly because it's still being used. Not all malays are fluent in reading jawi either but the main point to learn is to at least have a basic knowledge to read it. I also don't think there are such things as useless knowledge. Learning jawi for me is just like learning idiom or pantun or formal writing format or art or kawad kaki. Not everyone really uses all the knowledge that we learn at school but it will be useful at some point either directly or indirectly. I also don't think it's that difficult, put 1 chapter about the introduction and basics of jawi in buku teks BM darjah 5 and settle. Move on and forget about it.", "This just further evidence how ignorant you are. Jawi is not even Muslimc stuff for god sake lol. You cannot even read the holy book Quran with it. Muslim people in other country will not understand it. Now read this - Jawi is just a way to write words in BM but using different character.. instead of roman characters they are using characters inspired by arabic… like how people in this country does before British came and change it to Roman. It just part of the country history.", "There are many people confused weather Jawi is Islamic or not, and thus like I said, a official government statement saying Jawi is not Islamic should settle it.", "Alteady explain rationally. People like you tend to be ignorant. Masuk kanan keluar kiri.", "as long the government can guaranteed Jawi is not linked to Islam and there is no restriction on JAWI usage.\nJust shows how ignorant you are.", "I know Jawi is not related to Islam , but a guarantee from the government that Jawi is not Islamic and there will be no restriction on Jawi usage (e.g. If English can be used, Jawi also can) will stop all the confusion and help promote the writing style.", "Jawi = Bahasa Melayu. 3 muka surat untuk pengenalan. Dah banyak kali kerajaan terangkan dekat orang awam. Ahli Parlimen DAP pun dah terangkan secara rasional. Pembelajaran jawi tak bersamaan pembelajaran islam. Macam Tony Pua cakap apa masalah dia? Komuniti Cina dan India tak faham bahasa Melayu ke?", "Thus, I can use Jawi in non-Islamic context without any issue right ?" ], [ "It was definitely a period that shows irrationality among PH voterbase is not that different with the irrationality within other coalitions voterbase.\nThe same way we laugh at certain groups of people thinking a simple \"Merry Christmas\" can christianized them. We ourself thought that somehow 3 pages that just mentioned what those little jawi word in our bank notes, jata negara etc meant in textbook could \"islamized\" us.\nThe issue should have been discuss from a standpoint that if the 3 pages could serves as an entryhole to future extremist implementing even more than just 3 pages. But instead irrationality takes hold and this simple issue got enlarged ridiculously.\nedit 1: u/UsernameGenerik , not sure if its your video, but it should have also included the later 30sec that talk about the magical dissappearance of the issue suddenly when XX move happen. The ones pouring the fire over and over magically disappeared.\nHere at 1:19:36 if you all interested to continue watching" ], [ "Jawi calligraphy first became an issue in July when the government said it would introduce khat lessons in all Malaysian schools, including “vernacular” schools where lessons are taught in Tamil or Mandarin.\nAlthough the government later reversed the decision, the proposed change provoked complaints about the “Islamisation” of education in the Muslim-majority country where identity politics often shape policy.\nSeni khat merupakan seni yang amat disanjungi di antara seni-seni Islam yang lain kerana ia merupakan salah satu cara utama mengekalkan keaslian kandungan ayat-ayat suci al-Qur'an selain melalui hafalan para huffaz (penghafal Al-Quran). https://ms.m.wikipedia.org › wiki Seni khat Islam - Wikipedia Bahasa Melayu, ensiklopedia bebas\nSo, seems to be the government manage to blur the line after they failed with backlash in trying to introduce khat into vernacular curriculum. From the already lack of trust in the government after all those ketuanan from bn, chinese do felt being sold by the representative in ph when this kind of things happen. Boiling the frog tactic? Who knows?", "What is the issue of teaching jawi in vernacular schools ? It is part of Bahasa Melayu, which is our national language. It is not a separate subject, and there is no religious teaching or anything within it also." ], [ "wow tony pua sums up the issue from Malay's perspective really well. learning jawi is learning malay language, it doesn't have anything to do with Arabic language or Muslim at all.", "Why should we waste our time to learn something useless is my issue on it", "Move on and forget about it\nThere you go, what's the point then... I ain't going to use it in my day to day life.", "It is part of Bahasa Melayu, which is our national language. It is still used in many official documents, display, logos, etc. Saying it is useless is like saying Malay language is useless. Which is okay if you are not Malaysia citizen....", "", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat. While opinions of all kinds are welcome under our shared roof, reddiquette sets the expectation that everyone speaks to each other with basic civility and respect:\nDon’t: Conduct personal attacks on other commenters. Ad hominem and other distracting attacks do not add anything to the conversation.\nDon't: Insult others. Insults do not contribute to a rational discussion. Constructive Criticism, however, is appropriate and encouraged.\nDon’t: Be (intentionally) rude at all. By choosing not to be rude, you increase the overall civility of the community and make it better for all of us.\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks", "In that case just park it under BM subject. We don't need another subject just for Jawi.", "It is planned to be part of BM subject in the first place. A small topic in fact, as intro to the script.", "Jawi is in BM textbook… not another subject…" ], [ "You’re not a true non-muslim if mere jawi could falter your faith", "The only thing urban folks have faith in is money.", "You havr my vote.🤣 Cerita ebiet liew pg sabah uslam kan org kampung, tak lama lepas tu masing² murtad.. So many trigered in both situation while the main objective for both party is money.. (donation )", "Not true", "You forgot to add on power", "You are also not a true Muslim if mere jawi could falter your faith or confuse you.\nhttps://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2019/08/22/pas-mp-backs-call-to-ban-jawi-script-on-products-by-non-muslims/1783204", "I will assume you’re not aware of the issue underlying this statement, so let me share. The reason why some Muslims are cynical of non-Muslim businesses using Jawi on their products, mainly food, is because it tries to give an impression that the product is Islamic or Halal when in some cases, it may not be.\nYou will see this in some food products in stores where there’s a Halal logo but looks sketchy, and when you look it up on Jakim’s website, turns out they don’t have Halal certification but used Jawi or such design tricks to reel in Muslim consumers. That’s deceptive, especially if you consider how crucial Halal is to Muslim consumers.\nEducate yourself, or at least be more sensitive to why there are actual logical reasons behind certain statements or actions.", "Based on what you said, the value of Jawi is reduced if we cannot used it at certain place and this will discourage people from actually learning Jawi.\nI assume when you said deceptive part is when people put halal logo when their product is not halal ? I agreed with you , it's illegal and government should take action.\nHowever if I am a non Muslim and my product have halal cert, I should be allowed to put Jawi in my product alongside with the official halal logo.\nOr\nIf my product is non-halal, I should be able to put Jawi in my product without any kind of statement or logo saying it's halal.", "The irony. This reddit always lambasted Malay muslim community’s ignorance but when it comes to their own race/kind tutup mata pekak telinga." ], [ "2018 PH gov biggest weakness is their PR. Absolutely horrendous. The Jawi issues and the black shoes issues shouldn’t get as big as it got but they failed to communicate to the people.", "Agree 💯. And also adding to this, there is two team in pkr which also lead to langkah sheraton. Geramnya aku bila ingat. Penat tau bersorak, berdiri sampai ke malam kat pintu istana masa tu." ], [ "I will tell that uncle don't worry I learn english and I don't turn myself into believing Jesus.", "Jesus is Jewish but I get your point" ], [ "I think the timing to introduce this is at a really wrong timing where people prioritize livelihood, future of their kids (improve existing education system, reduce burden of the educators and student, by removing the unnecessary not ADDing it) and most important stability of the government (not even 1 year at that time?)\nwhats the point of introducing this? whats the point of learning it? will it help / increase workforce efficiency or competitiveness?\nyou can do this when our country is good enough you know, nothing good to do, ok go ahead but optional.:29091::29091:\nsorry, for bad english. my point is still on the timing / unnecessary to introduce to our future generation." ], [ "Theoretically, jawi (a.k.a. arabic letters) is not islam, but jawi came to this land together with islam. there is a symbiotic relationship between jawi and islam.\nof course, many will say that jawi is intrinsically 'malay culture'...but what is 'malay culture'? For the past 70 years, the status quo and the government has purposely intertwined malay culture and islamic culture, so much so that only an expert in history can properly distinguished between malay culture and islamic culture....heck, even in this country, a malay is legally defined as someone who is a muslim.\nso, why is it surprising that non-muslims in this country, particularly those younger than 50 years old, see jawi as part of islam or an 'islamic thing'? why is it surprising to see non-muslims get anxious when the government that was supposed to promote ALL cultures suddenly push this 'islamic thing' , when almost nobody was asking for it?\nTony Pua get laugh all he wants but i am sure he is well aware of the decades of indoctrination that has been happening in this country to cause huge distrust between muslims vs non-muslims ...and malays vs non-malays" ], [ "If its just another form of writing malay, and not some ploy to push islam onto everyone then i see no reason why not.\nBut imo, why the fuck do we need to learn a harder form of malay when rumi is literally better and easily understood?\nLets no end up with a situation like japan where those poor students need to learn THREE alphabets." ], [ "The problem is you made it a national syllabus, and jawi is not something only the minorities know. The majority knows what it is.\nYou made it in your manifesto to preserve the cultures and languages of the minorities. Why did you not do that? Where is the recognition for uec? Where is your effort to preserve vernacular schools?\nEven the Sarawak gov was doing better than you. Why would you give blow jobs to the most racist people when they refuse that?", "Found a racist here", "Other than mere accusation, you decide to make no argument here. Get out.", "No problem I dont like here I get out. You? You dont like why you do not get out?", "I feel perfectly fine here. Did I say I do not like it here?\nBlocked because too chicken to use main account. Pui", "The problem is you made it a national syllabus, and jawi is not something only the minorities know. The majority knows what it is.\nIt's three page of Jawi that essentially say what those jawi words in your bank notes mean, I do not believe you can teach someone to be proficient at basic Jawi and test them in exams with just 3 pages. I do not believe having a simple \" hey this is what the jawi on your bank notes mean\" = give blow jobs to the most racist people.\nCould it be used as entry hole to expand in future? Maybe, that should be the point to discuss not the fucking apparently 3 pages of jawi can islamized us somehow the same way saying merry christmas will christianize someone.\nYou made it in your manifesto to preserve the cultures and languages of the minorities. Why did you not do that? Where is the recognition for uec? Where is your effort to preserve vernacular schools?\nAs much as I think UEC should be recognized, you seriously want it to be introduced in a time where there are open demonstration against ICERD and reminder that PH was in government for only 22 months and within those 22 month there is even a certain Atuk inside. Vernacular schools still exists even to this day, what are you on about." ], [ "I personally have no problem with Jawi being part of our education system. But I would rather learn real arabic than jawi. It's more useful in the real world." ], [ "where is this from?", "Ong Kian Ming’s new podcast. Link" ], [ "What the name of this podcast.", "Are We OK?" ], [ "If the main reason is to promote unity, isn't it better for bumi to learn other non's language instead of jawi?", "No one said the main reason is unity - it's a Malaysian heritage.", "if that's the case isn't Mandarin and Tamil part of Malaysin heritage too?", "Jawi script came first, if you really have to compare. And again, Jawi is a script, not a different language.", "Brahmi (and variants) came first.", "https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/s/GvKJCZ8eQN", "Why should this become a competition of who came first if we're celebrating diversity?", "It's not who is first as if it's a competition - it's what was used for a better part of Malaysian history. That was the point if you missed it." ], [ "Of course there is no issue in the introduction of learning Jawi. The issue is when to introduce. You expect the society to suddenly accept Jawi? It is like introducing EVs right now, and how our society reacts? F-ing FUD.\nThe pace is important. Take it gradually. Before you decide to launch it from your own perspective. \"Oh they are just gonna be fine\" instead the mindset should be \"what if they are not fine?\" That \"what if\" is gonna cause you everything" ], [ "They would give every stick and stone they found to show us they are racist without telling us they are racist.", "Most Chinese Malaysian and Indian Malaysian are conservative in nature." ], [ "\"If my son goes to school and come back a muslim\" I- what 😭😭😭" ], [ "There's really no issue with learning jawi, but what was the reason behind the idea? Is it to teach students something new or start islamifying schools? If it was the former then it wouldn't be a problem, but everyone knows its the latter.\nWhy not focus on improving what we already have? Many students in rural areas are really struggling esp with English and stem subjects. Adding a new subject isn't going to do anything for anyone. Hopefully moe wakes up and improves the whole education system as a whole.", "Then why learn mandarin ? Try to chinafying people or what ?", "No one is forcing students to learn mandarin, mandarin is only taught in SJKC and as an elective subject, same with Tamil and other languages (elective subjects in sec school like Japanese German etc)", "It's for the sake of preserving the Chinese culture and the practicality of getting more desirable in the job market. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.", "I also don't think there are such things as useless knowledge.\nThat's true! Having an introduction to jawi in a chapter is not a problem and can even give students something new to learn. To me it's only a problem when they're forcing us to learn jawi as it's own independent subject." ], [ "I had to take Jawi when I was in school. The problem was there was no explanation what is Jawi or why we are learning it. It looked like Arabic and sounded like Arabic so the perception was that we were being brain washed.", "Yup learnt it, passed tests on it and promptly forgot it.", "Yup. And now i still struggle reading it." ], [ "The internet crowd can argue on the lack of utility but the people on the streets opposed this based on racial-religious lines and ignorance. You can't defend that." ], [ "I always support this 2 guys. No matter what other say about this 2 guy. Tony he really work and serve people under his consistency which i personally witness. 👍🏻" ], [ "Malaysian Chinese is really conservative. Look at the community’s comment, they won’t accept it by stating as ‘brainwashed’. What to do when majority of them against it? Political party is just representing the voice of their voters." ], [ "Ugh no thanks. Jawi can stay in the past, just use romawi. Hated jawi in school, it might also be the reason why I hate Arabic language class.", "You mean rumi?", "I guess" ], [ "I still stand firmly where I stood. NO JAWI!" ], [ "Your core supporters dont want anything that have any, even the smallest thing that is linked to islam. They want to push it away as far as possible.", "You are gaslighting.\nIt started out as khat ie Islamic calligraphy, caused a shitstorm then changed to jawi ie malay in Arabic script.\nEnd of the day Mahathir played both sides as he knew he would rile up 'us vs them' to discredit DAP.\nPut yourself on the other side, will you for the sake of unity allow your child to recite the catechism or sutra just one paragraph aja bukan banyak", "\"No cross in my neighborhood but I want your kids to embrace Islam\" /s", "Correct.", "Makes sense if you ask the person queuing behind you move away a few steps after rubbing his penis on your pants for decades once you find some room, right?", "It's always the majority forcing the non to comply without even consulting our opinion. The problem isnt with learning jawi, but it was forced upon us without even bother to ask for our opinion. Not a single discussion was held.\nIf encouraging unity is the main reason behind pushing this, why not the majority take up learning the non's language instead? Be it mandarin or tamil, it will goes a much longer way of promoting unity and interaction between races instead of this jawi that's pratically useless irl", "DAP was supposed to represent you guys. And based on what tony said, they had no problem with it. And the deputy education at that time was from DAP.", "So am I in principle, I have no problem with learning jawi. I have problem with the circumstances that lead this to happen.\nSo you have no problem with majority praticing the \"tyranny of majority\" and forcing whatever they see fit without consulting the minority?", "Im actually the type that respects the will of the majority. Depends on the situation, I may voice out my view and try to convince others, but if the majority doesnt accept it, then thats that. No hard feelings.\nI dont expect people to follow whatever i say or give whatever i want. And bitch around when people dont accept what i say.\nActually, in all honesty, im actually like that at 1 point in my life. Everything is me me me. But as time goes, I see it more of me being childish." ], [ "Glad they spoke about this. Truly, the jawi debacle was the moment I became apathetic towards the PH government. The petty and arrogant rejection shown towards a harmless piece of Malay culture had validated the words of my PAS and UMNO supporting friends that I was \"anjing DAP\" for voting PH." ], [ "Pointless in learning a language if it is not use much in the real world other than in Islam. Hence why people protest. Bether to go learn Japanese or Korean that many companies would want to hire later in the future.", "This just further evidence how ignorant you are. Jawi is not even Muslimc or Islamic stuff for god sake lol. You cannot even read the holy book Quran with it. Muslim people in other country will not understand it. Now read this - Jawi is just a way to write words in BM but using different character.. instead of roman characters they are using characters inspired by arabic… like how people in this country does before British came and change it to Roman. It just part of the country history.", "Pointless in learning a language if it is not use much in the real world other than in Islam. Hence why people protest.\nBut people aren't protesting due to the lack of utility. Hence your point is moot." ], [ "I think the issue with this is that there is a bunch of problems waiting to be addressed. Ppl has unusually high expectations on PH but PH has addressed nothing except for trivial matters, such as this. This is still the case with this term of PH. Years after years and same story 'UMNO aldy 60 yrs why can't give PH few more years.' This is not a competition to see who is more incompetent." ], [ "I say no to Jawi in school. Better use the time wasted on jawi to learn more rumi BM.\nRegardless, this is an excellent episode that goes into details of policies" ], [ "I'm not well verse in this topic so feel free to bash away\nFew page of jawi/khat introduction is fine, imo. My problem with it is: why? Instead of jawi/khat, why not include bahasa pasar or even kelate slang? Isnt that a better way to increase unity between races, according to the bahasa purist nationalist? Why add jawi into the mix?\nIs jawi/khat malay culture, or malaysia culture? If we admit that jawi is malaysia culture, will it be used on the non, that we are not malaysian enough for not being good in jawi/khat, like how bm is weaponised?\nCan dap proof that said decision was not a move to buy malay votes? Can dap proof that they are not politicking education? Was that agenda always in their country development plan even during their time as opposition?\nYes I despise dz and cinapek that exxagerate the influence of jawi/khat onto the non's culture. They are naive and ill informed, big part of the blame goes to you guys who didn't communicate beforehand. Still, Them being a dick doesn't mean that this decision is not an opportunist decision to cement their position within the malay community. You like the so much, you go kiss their ass lo. Why blame us pula? Use knee as brain also can foresee the reaction your core voters will give lah. We are not obliged to give you undying support. Sorry we are not pas voters.", "Everyday I am convinced that multiculturalism is more a liability than advantage. Every subject no matter how small and non-issue would always go back to the question of race and religion." ], [ "Tony Pua and Ong Kian Ming are your typical Oxbridge smug self serving asshats. And yes I've met a bunch of them. These people think they are superior and everyone are just dumb little chess pieces to be manipulated." ], [ "Let student made the choices of languages they want to learn... no need to enforce." ], [ "\"if my son goes to school and come back as muslim\"\nLOL cam bodo.\nsame vibe as \"tengok salib tak boleh mengucap\"\ndua2 bodo mudah keliru geng.", "https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2019/07/27/subtle-religious-conversion-of-orang-asli-children-still-going-on-in-school/1775255" ], [ "I don't understand why Jawi is linked to Islam is a problem. Like, yes Jawi is a product of Islam blending in to fit the people of Nusantara but its\nJUST A WRITING SYSTEM.\nSure, Jawi nowadays are mostly found in religious education books but back in the past Jawi is the standard writing system. Jawi is NOT a liturgical alphabet reserved only for religious purposes. Newspapers to code of law to ad signboards all uses Jawi as the main medium for Malay language. Had the colonialization never came and Za'ba never revolutionized Malay roman spelling, I'm sure Malaysia right now uses a Malay Jawi system. Plus, Malay isn't a\nAlso the idea of your children converting to Islam because of learning and using Jawi is absurd. It's like saying learning Aksara Jawa for Javanese or Baybayin for Tagalog will convert you to Hindu-Buddhism.\nThis whole issue is just people fearing of being open minded. This is a stupid issue" ], [ "Hello, friends. It's not only Malays who use Jawi. The Cham minority in Vietnam and Cambodia also use Jawi, which includes some additional letters, such as Pa etc... I can confirm that if you know Jawi, you'll likely understand Arabic letters as well (good benefit right. Ya habibi). Using Jawi doesn't necessarily mean you must be Muslim. Historically, successful kingdoms like Ayutthaya and Champa used Jawi too. If minority groups in Arab countries, including Jews, can speak and write Arabic, then why can't politically influential minorities do the same? Take example of a famous youtuber Xiaomanyc, who is from the USA, speaking Chinese and earning considerable respect from locals for preserving their language. Similarly, if you embrace Malay language, Jawi and their culture, the Malay people will respect you as well. But hey the arrogant keep coming ..." ], [ "This whole thread just shows how racist and close-minded are some Chinese Malaysian and Indian Malaysians are." ], [ "I can read jawi but can't write. I always get F during school." ], [ "Bro just flexing his rm50 smh /j" ], [ "Jawi is just another writing form etched within our country's history without any religious undertone\nThat said, I personally haven't met people that could write in it, it does seem interesting though" ], [ "10/10 campaigning. Blame your supporter." ], [ "Heh, what to do. Everyone should have a voice, right?" ], [ "saya dari sekolah cina pun sokong. Its just writing lol." ] ]

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[ [ "In his vision, more islamic = more positive. hahaha" ], [ "Yea sure /s\nSST, LVG tax, petrol subsidy reduced", "The more the government saves on costs and raises revenue, the more money it has to distribute to the B40 and M40 income groups. Right now, a lot of the money spent on blanket subsidies go to either the really rich or smugglers. The top 10% of electricity users takes up 50% of electricity subsidy, while nearly half of the diesel consumption in Malaysia is smuggled out.\nIf you really are in the B40 or M40 income group, you would get even more cash transfers when the government significantly reduces its subsidy costs.", "Let's hope it's used wisely. Meanwhile business will take any chance they get to up rm0.5-1 every time" ], [ "I also hope 2024 will bring more positive change to the country by hoping there will be some reform by current government." ], [ "Susahkan rakyat saje" ], [ "“More”" ], [ "Good luck, Madanon." ], [ "Hopefully 2024 brings 1 SGD = 4 MYR" ], [ "He should say something about dubai move" ], [ "positive for ??? testkit??? AIDS???" ] ]

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[ [ "Haha i went to ioi also yesterday.. rmai gila org!" ] ]

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[ [ "its the case of anak nak gaming laptop but bapak bukan gamer. so bapak pun beli saja since it says gaming laptop. well idk what spec are we looking at but im pretty sure the newer gen stuff can be used for \"budget gaming\"", "half of my friends tak tau boleh upgrade RAM and think 8gb is the maximum..\non a 3060 laptop...", "oh man i used to game with intel intergrated graphics XD", "I game on an MX 130 lol. In 2023.", "i5 8250, 8gb ram, MX150, 2gb vram, in 2024 playing x-plane. have to use a lot of plugin to reduce graphic and plug the charger all the time. still can play la haha", "Same, now in 2024.😑😑😁", "Speaking of which! Some of them ironically didnt know that they ran some games with integrated graphics but they didnt know.\nall they say is \"bapak ah game tgh lah sial\"", "Integrated graphic are getting good and more efficient lately", "Yo but amd intefrated graohics is freaking awesome tho. Got an old amd cpu with it for like Rm99 and it can run gta 5 high setting like a boss", "Yeah, I have a Ryzen 5600h with an integrated graphics card and it runs pretty well on 2010s games. Don't expect the same performance in modern games though.", "wtf really?", "the APU of Amd back then is really good for super budget setup,it still is good with the ryzen architecture", "And it’s what Steam deck based on also", "Oh yeah this happened to my cousin who is a software engineer. Years ago he bought a gaming PC but somehow he had been playing his games with monitor connecting to the motherboard hdmi output. It went on for half a year until I noticed and pointed it out to him. His realization was hilarious.\nI find it weird that there's alot of people i know who are pro at software (i.e. IT, coding or design) but are completely clueless outside of the software they use.", "Here I am stressing about putting 4 stick into my mobo n if the XPM would be disabled. While simultaneously fussing about the ram timing.\nwtfisitsocomplicatedsigh", "nahh itll always folo the slowest one. just keep it simple n use same model/brand/series for all the slots.", "I bought hyperx Fury just before covid as stock is running out. Its more expensive compared to like silicon power, so was checking out if can mix n match.\nIn fact, the seller only had rgb in stock precovid, so my case only the ram is lit fabulously lol. Damm sesat look.", "ignorance is bliss i guess\nthe problem is before they find out they planned to buy a new laptop.. or a prebuilt", "Some laptops can swap RAM nowadays tho, so I'd still blame it on those users for not educating themselves.", "The worst part is i once called them out but they say \" we're not rich like you\" but spend money on games thrice that amount.", "I think it isn't entire wrong, while some laptop still designed with upgradable memory on the motherboard, but most of the thin/ultra books have designed them as onboard memory which means non-upgradable.", "it really depends on the laptop model though, most laptop allow upgrade but there are some that are ass enough to have their RAM soldered onto it and non-upgradable", "I dont disagree. but they bought specifically gaming laptops that are gimped with 8gb ram with an empty slot. but they dunno anything about it", "Yeah you are right but these tiktok scammers are not selling new gen stuff, they are selling laptop 1 malaysia level chromebook from 2010's and advertise them as gaming laptops.", "owwh if thats the case we can flag that to tik tok as false advertizing. maybe go even better send to KPDN(idk what they can do rn really) XD", "Nah cuz \"gaming laptop\" is a really broad term. A laptop can be considered a gaming laptop even though it can only run minesweerper so that's an unfortunate loophole", "yeah thats quite a loophole.", "I don’t think that would fly as “gaming” laptop. You would have to be a gigantic idiot with zero knowledge on what modern gaming is to fall for such a claim.", "Which is more than half of the people. All they know is more ram = better performance which is not totally wrong but there's more than just ram", "Except the people who are selling those stuff are not telling what generation CPU it is. I saw several ads telling 8th generation i7 below with no dedicated GPU \"gaming\" laptop" ], [ "Not just the Malay speaking audience, its every single society segment.\nThem young ones didn't have to troubleshoot their tech as often as millennials have to back in the day. If you never have to meddle to get things going, you won't have any incentive to learn more deeply than just using the thing.", "True. I used to think Gen Z would be better at tech so when I found the opposite, I thought it was weird until I read a similar comment like yours.\nA lot of the tech we have today is very streamlined compared to the late 90s to early 00s. They don’t grow up tinkering a PC because a phone or tablet already fulfil their needs. Wifi routers now come with apps that make set up a breeze. Pirated stuff was rampant that we learned how to detect dangerous sites and deal with malware. Printers still suck, but we have less and less reasons to even print something in the first place.\nApart from PC gamers, I could now see why Gen Z is less tech literate. It’s not their fault.", "You miss a huge point. Most of tech is now becoming less open. Everything is pretty much solder in and can't be changed. Only pc remain customizable. In the future even car knowledge is going down", "yes, which is why we need to have a right to repair thingy going on like what people are fighting for in the USA", "Wait hold up are we talking about software literacy or hardware literacy??", "Both. Considering voice is also becoming more accessible. Just like how most today no longer need to hand write letter. I'm sure future norme generations need less typing and just use text to speech. Just like sense of direction since GPS become norm.", "Good point too. I can’t upgrade anything on my laptop.", "Hopefully framework laptop become normalise. EU is our only hope to reverse the trend", "its ok, the more the lesser there is on freedom, education and the good will to do things that are interesting, fun and meaningful, the more the people gonna start riots and wars. don't give face, consumerism or control or whatever, the future generations must know about all the important stuffs to continue having good lives. Lawan. Jgn ditindas. Kasi Bomb itu tempat. HA HA HA HA...", "True. I'm GenZ but my first phone was a 5 year old Redmi 2 that crashed all the time. Troubleshooting all of the endless issues made me interested in tech and knowledgeable about the intricacies of android like different runtimes. Eventually I picked up coding in form 3 and pretty much self learnt python and some C++.", "That’s cool! Keep it up", "Not just hardware. Back in those days, windows was just crappy. Occasionally, it needs to be formatted and reinstalled just to keep it working properly. These days it has become reliable enough that we almost never need to reinstall the OS that comes preinstalled for the entire lifetime of the laptop.", "Another good point! We don’t even need to defrag anymore.", "lagi cantik sekarang just give minor bug.. button kenot press then got sometimes annoying little things happen.. its ok la... a.i. programming language also seemed like got humour and mischief.. when ask to wear seksi sikit pun tak nak kasi tunjuk. HA HA HA HA HA.. main main. koyak baju baru tau. HA HA HA HA HA", "This is exactly why my 12yo got a mid range pc for his Christmas present. Now if he complains it isn't working well enough he can figure out which part needs replacing and what he wants to replace it with himself.\n(EDIT for shitty spelling)", "Great idea!", "You did a good thing", "There are people out there who don't know how to use windows or even navigate folders since they grew up with iPads\nhttps://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z", "True that. My first PC was supposed to be fully spec-ed to the teeth, and my dad paid an arm and leg for that. Turn out the shop conned us and gave us shitty parts. Gotta work and fix it so often that I learnt how to put together a PC pre-internet times", "yeah! there is now entire generation that dont know how to use a game controller!", "More likely don't know how to use a physical keyboard without auto correct than controller.", "Keyboard > Game Controller -> Touch Screen.\nI suspect he meant some mobile corny and stupid games. Only when ones get serious about AAA gaming, they had to earn the 10,000 hours.", "You... Did you watch Thor? That story threw cold water on me. Man, next gen gamers be wild.", "I have never touched a Nintendo switch ever in my life, of course I'm not going to know how to use that specific game controller", "i mean there kids now literally pushing aside controllers trying to press the screen as if its touchscreen.", "well then that's an entire issue", "I agreed, I helping someone with a Computer Science degree, asked him to reseat his RAM.\nHe said he don't know how to open his PC case, and don't know how remove RAM...", "To be fair it’s software and not hardware specialisations.", "even worse, it's closer to theory and mathematics than it is to software, let alone tinkering with hardware.", "I'm a CS major and there's a course in my college that taught us how to pick and install PC components", "Yeah. Taking electrical engineering does not mean that i can fix your fridge. Haha", "TIL CS student learns how to build a PC", "OMG. He will not survive..", "CS ≠ tech literate.\nDepending on their focus, they prolly might know more on programming side rather than the handy mandy parts.\nI think if they're doing IT (information technology) and still doesn't know much about the physical components of a PC, that's an issue.", "new gen only good at tok kok, but don't really know shit honestly. They're good at pointing out issues, but dont know or wont even bother learning how to fix it\n\"look, my car has a punctured tyre. Car seller need to make sure all tyre wont have this problem anymore. Lets all protest\"\n\"in the mean time, did you change the tyre first?\"\n\"why should I?\"", "Complex things became simple, but in reality it is still complex, just designed so most people can use it without bothering with the details. I would say foolproof, but even fools sometimes break them. Ready made things are a lot easier to have than something you need to make on your own. While i still believe that professional stuff should be left to the experts, i do believe that you should have a minimum understanding of something that you own.\nI still see people using default SSID that their ISP set for them. Many people drive cars without knowing how to maintain it, they just know have problem go to workshop, no money can still drive use until it breaks. For a pc, unless the user took the effort, most people dont even know what parts their own computer has." ], [ "I don't use TikTok but based on the stuff creators are promoting on YouTube it's pretty bad everywhere\nbomb power supplies\noverpriced trash\netc etc", "Yep same on tiktok but I think it's even worse. Promoting literal e-waste with that annoying ass voice and smug accent" ], [ "As a millennial myself with a computer engineering background, I started to avoid answering computer illiterate person about why their laptop/PC/smartphone is too slow for gaming. I'll just tell them to go and buy the most expensive device they can afford. If the games is still lagging, that's mean you are just too poor to afford a gaming device.", "That's a very nice and simple way to put it. I'll be using your answer as well but of course without the mention of poor part hahaha", "then they go buy macbook XD" ], [ "i5 i5 bagus bagus, turns out it is gen 1 i5? and the wow 16gb ddr3 ram? lol", "No shit I saw a vid saying that acer nitro 5 has 84 gb of ram lmao. I immediately called out their bullshit", "Yeah I see posts like\nGAMING PC MURAH\nCORE I7\nGTX GRAPHIC CARD\nReality: i7 1st gen, gtx 650, fire hazard psu, way too many rgb puke fans", "Can you recommend me a good one within student budget?", "what's your budget? some students consider 10k is a student budget. lmao", "dafuqfr ? i know generally u need atlease 4k for a decent laptop for student but 10k ??", "And what games do you play ? If you play Cyberpunl 2077 or Alan Wake 2 I would say forget it", "If your budget is 2k±. I'd suggest an integrated APU for starters. Ryzen 5 5600g, 16gb ram ddr4, 1tb nvme, 550w PSU. This is as basic as you can get, upgrade to dedicated gpu down the line. Unless you're looking for laptops", "This is worse than buying overpriced rubbish 'gaming' pc from wish.com" ], [ "Not just Malays la. I was actually quite surprised as well. I thought in this age these new gen would be somewhat literate regarding tech. Boy was I wrong. Type keyboard guna dua jari telunjuk. Words & excel x payah cerita la. I mean. Don't they teach all these in school? I remember started to learn all this in primary school. Sudah abolished ka?", "No, it is never abolished, its just idiots being idiots", "People just don't want to learn." ], [ "A lot of people don't know how to google. I think half of our problem can be solved easily if people know how to use their phone effectively lol. Heck I think significant of my time can be reduced if my clients know how to use the internet and not just social media smh\nI own a printing store so I deal with a lot of printing stuff and I'd say 80% of my customer don't even know how to send thing through whatsapp. Also the amount of people who SCREENSHOT THE IMAGES FROM THEIR GALLERY AND SEND IT TO ME instead of just sending that goddamn original images is so damn high then they got pissed when the img is so blur", "Googling the right thing is definitely a whole separate skill. There should be a whole free course on how to properly use Google", "Well I agree, googling the right thing (niche thing I suppose) def need skill. But googling in general shouldn't be too hard like what do you mean you don't know how to find \"contoh surat rasmi buka akaun bank\" 😭", "You're right about that ain't gonna lie. There's even ChatGPT now to make it easier although giving the right prompts itself is also another whole separate skill 😭😭 Not a W situation at all hahaha", "Googling isn't hard, it just not the default behaviour anymore. I've noticed that more and more people prefer to be fed information rather than seeking it out themselves.\nIt's not that Googling is hard, it's just it doesn't even cross their minds to do it.", "Quality of Google has declined over the years thanks to endless content shit farms, SEO, and more lately, AI generated content. Anyone who's tried to use Google for technical/nuanced discussion can probably agree it's quite difficult to find quality content now (even with the 'adding \"reddit\" to the end of your query' trick), couple with this newer gen and their approach to passively receive information, the internet as we knew it is dead.", "I work in IT retail and customers prefer to ignore us workers and instead Google while standing in front of the item they want to find. They end up taking a lot of time.", "Also the amount of people who SCREENSHOT THE IMAGES FROM THEIR GALLERY AND SEND IT TO ME instead of just sending that goddamn original images is so damn high then they got pissed when the img is so blur\nOh yeah i know that feeling very well.\nI often help my dad and uncles to print out basic documents and receipts/invoices for their work. Most of the time and I mean 99% of the time, they either send me a phone screenshot of the document/ OR literally taking a photo of the hardcopy document (not even using the feature that can convert the camera into scanner). These jpg images often get forwarded so many times via whatsapp or wechat until they became so compressed that you can't even read the text!\nYou know what's the worst ones I've received? SENDING ME A JPG OF A PHONE DISPLAYING A JPG OF THE DOCUMENT. OMFG CAN YOU PLEASE FORWARD ME THE PDF FILE." ], [ "I have a computer store and I was surprised that many customers came to me asking if Chromebook available. Most just look at price rather than spec😓", "Yeah but you gotta take their budget into consideration. A lot of people can't afford a 1000+ laptop for work ya know", "you are not gonna get any new decent 'work' laptop even for 1000+, used or budget laptops yes", "welllllll its like that for many things really ahahaha malaysian right? ahahahaha. me imma spec person. but price.... well price is price ahahahaha gotta lower my expectations XD", "Or stock the actual decent Chromebook from Joi, Acer, Asus, etc instead of out of support Chromebook from years ago." ], [ "GAMING PC MURAH BOLEH MAIN PUBG , DOTA2.\nSPEC : 2nd Gen i5 + GT730.\nTechnically can play PUBG and Dota 2 at 14fps at 720p..", "Then they sell it for 2000 lol", "14 fps?? 💀💀😭😭", "You'd be lucky if it even launch", "Im surprised they still even have those in stock", "dota 2 maybe not, since when my friend forced me to play dota 2, with my current Minecraft server PC(i3 4170 GT720) I can run DOTA 2 at 120fps", "Benda ni boleh buatkan orang kena gelak kaw-kaw dah...", "Can become a r/lowendgaming story" ], [ "Hey there, currently in the United States. The same thing can be said for more \"rural\" areas, advertisement targets lower-income and technology-illiterate individuals. even worse is the credit payment plan, since America loves credit. A cheap 300-dollar laptop can cost 1000 with interest." ], [ "I'd say it's an intersectionality of several factors.\nMalaysians are generally penny-wise and pound-foolish. That's how so many are so easily duped into voting for the wrong parties, selecting the wrong leaders, making ill-advised spending, etc etc.\nNext, its technology literacy. For one thing, I noticed many in the malaysian population are, and might never be for the next 5 years, not ready for AI. By the time AI really runs in this country's economy and industry in full force, many might be losing their jobs. Of course, politicians might wanna prevent that from happening to save jobs, but that might just drag us further behind---as if we're not lagging already---in terms of output and production.\nthird, orang kite mentality. I've seen Malays scamming fellow malays into get rich quick schemes, saving plans, and even bogus Nabi relics exhibition. Looking at Hadi Awang is enough, another well known snake oil salesman. A lot of Malays are willing to trust a stranger just because he or she is from the same race instead of using critical thinking and analytical skills to discern truths for themselves", "By the time AI really runs in this country's economy and industry in full force, many might be losing their jobs. Of course, politicians might wanna prevent that from happening to save jobs, but that might just drag us further behind---as if we're not lagging already---in terms of output and production.\nAI in its current or upcoming form is not the promise its proponents, shills, critics, doomsayers, \"influencers\" claim it will be. Just like crypto. It's very underwhelming in reality. If the economy is gonna be shit, it will be for other reasons.", "Any reference to what you state? Because as I experienced from work, AI+analytics+automation has been progressed rapidly for the last 1 decade and no sight of underwhelming as you mentioned. There are many aspects of AI, although we have not reached AGI yet, which AI aspects to you think it is underwhelming?", "true ,true and all true!" ], [ "Thats why Malaysia is syurga scammer.", "a prc supplier once admitted as much to me" ], [ "Scrolled very long in Malay gaming scene and out of the many videos I only saw two honest creators smh.", "Please share who the two honest content creators are, they definitely need more love from us.", "I hope Monaliza bro is one of them at least.", "Need to know who are they", "Turns out Melayu sendiri yang pijak Melayu. What a surprise" ], [ "Malaysian in a nutshell:\n\"Oh they have a lot of following so everything they say must be true!\"\n\"HOLY SHIT MURAH GILA!\" *proceeds to buy without even look at the products components\nKesah lak murah ke tak, asalkan ada perkataan \"gaming\". Same thing \"gaming\" chairs. For god sakes most of them aren't even good for your back.", "Ergonomic office chairs > Gaming chairs" ], [ "Yeah especially when they say chromebook is good. like bruh no🤦‍♂️get a refurbished laptop instead its far better", "Nothing wrongs with Chromebook if all the user need to do is browse facebook or watch youtube and some light typing on googles docs.\nVery good battery life and relatively secure.", "But to advertise it as a gaming laptop when there are already laptops specifically in that segment is pretty much misleading and false advertising.", "Too overpriced tho" ], [ "r u sure they dunno bout the specs\nim more astonished of the prices", "Yep. Saw one claimed acer nitro 5 has 84 gb of ram lmao", "84GB of RAM??? Gahdamn bro they tryna do server stuff for NASA bro", "Nah NASA sent people to moon with 4kb of ram", "plot twist: 84GB DDR ram." ], [ "People nowadays do not bother to Google and do any basic research before buying anything. Surprisingly from my circle of friends this goes the same with degree graduates." ], [ "Can play Dota2, cannot play Minecraft" ], [ "I think the people who usually fall for all this stuff usually dont have the time to actually do research on the matter (too many other commitments), or they are just too trusting especially when its a source they are comfortable with (influencer, friend, uncle etc) or they are just dumb MFs. Its not just a malay thing, its a people thing." ], [ "It’s the consumer culture here in Malaysia. Tech is sold at less than reputable stores and there’s only one big box store and they rip you off.\nCompared to say Best Buy in the U.S., video cards, CPUs, pre made PCs are all clearly displayed and the consumer is informed.\nMalaysia doesn’t have good consumer protection laws and the general mentality is if you get ripped off then it’s your fault." ], [ "You have no idea. I have some many people have trouble creating PDF from JPEG and these people just graduate from high school just a few years ago.", "Tbh I still have no idea to do it properly and just use online websites instead cuz every single app that I use ask you to sign up and shit", "Well you can always pirate the apps lol" ], [ "Business opportunities selling refurbished business or office laptop that just decommissioned." ], [ "I know a ton of people that put their Wifi router in a cabinet somewhere, or behind their TV, and yet blame TM for shitty connections.", "Granted, TM aint the best either, they got their problems too\n(bad routing, crappy chinese no name routers [who is aztech])" ], [ "Honestly, I myself had lost track of todays gaming tech. I was a gamer back in the days, and my knowledge in pc can be considered advanced. But nowadays, im totally lost. In terms of OS and softwares, I am still up to date a bit, but in terms of hardware.... nope. My knowledge are more towards phones now.\nWhen buying a pc or laptop, i just find my friend who is knowledgeable in this, tell him what i want to do, my budget, and then he will list down the specs that meets my needs.\nI dont even remember the graphic card used for my son pc. Hahahaha" ], [ "I don't think it's just technology literacy. That might be one of the key component. But I think it strikes deeper into media literacy. Identifying scams in media, be it audio or visual or both is a general skill, the reason one would believe in conspiracy theories spread through WhatsApp is the same reason people will fall for scams like these.\nIf you have strong media literacy, you would not be as easily preyed upon by these scummy business tactic. (not impossible, just harder, and avoid the drunning kruger effect)" ], [ "I know basic computering but nothing fancy. But even as me whose not really a tech guy can see this scam is just, haih, theyre using gullible people, parents especially.\nThough, id say good for them. My parents doesnt buy me shits that easily when i was a kid, even phones are second hands that able to use basic smartphone stuff. Gotta learn the hard way id say" ], [ "I have no idea how to see how good they are. But I always ask for the specifications and compare it in game requirements test to see if can play or not.\nAlways check in game requirement test before buying.", "Yeah but the commenters always asking \"Roblox boleh tak? Blackshot boleh tak? San andreas boleh tak?\". Choosing the lowest end games as tester is genuinely making me mad. Either that or that guy that ask can pubg be played on a chromebook lmao", "Lol seriously? If like that just buy a RM300 laptop and it should work. The game I want to play lowest specs atleast RM700." ], [ "I see it on fb as well, some random post advertising junk products and everyone in the comment section asking link pls, where can buy, so cheap onz buy, etc...\nThe amount of people who dont even bother to check the product quality, product usage & proper reviews but just look at the PRICE because some random page shared about it. Later, they complain product bad lah, scam me, all dumb excuses for their own stupidity.", "and then proceed to blame the bank for \"no security\" when they try to get discount by downloading shady app", "this also, those who download random apps really no hope\nno common sense" ], [ "I am guilty. I have zero knowledge of computers.", "That's what google is for my dude. Just search up linus laptop buying guide and learn from there. Oh and avoid the malay speaking side at all cost cuz most of them are shills", "Go to buildapc before buying anything!", "Watch these YouTubers called Jarrod's Tech and PC Centric. All you need to know tbh." ], [ "Those are mostly kampung people who are less likely to be technologically literate.", "Yeah I know. Really sad to see tbh cuz they are getting scammed hard" ], [ "It's norm wait till you join pc group and just to watch drama unfold." ], [ "If anyone here is looking for a gaming laptop and can at least understand English, I recommend this youtuber called Jarrod's Tech. He helped me in my decision to get my gaming laptop and so far I'm very happy with my purchase.", "or go to places like r/laptops", "r/GamingLaptops to be more specific", "Here's a sneak peek of /r/laptops using the top posts of the year!\n#1: Got drunk and puked on my Lenovo Ideapad gaming 3, is there any way to clean under the keys or could any professionals do it? | 371 comments\n#2: i added an extra heatsink to this poor laptop. | 148 comments\n#3: Is this bad | 162 comments\nI'm a bot, beep boop | Downvote to remove | Contact | Info | Opt-out | GitHub" ], [ "can you share those tiktok acc? would love to expose them", "Search up gaming laptop on tiktok and you'll find plenty" ], [ "There's a seafood/durian Chinese guy who's selling used Chromebooks as \"Gaming laptop\". So it's not a racial thing. Generally, many tech illiterate people are in the country." ], [ "As someone who manages the IT of my department any pc/laptop with gen 8 and below is not worth it. Obviously these content scammers don’t know what they are talking about. Even in Shoppee there are seller selling gen 6 for more than rm1k" ], [ "those “gullible people\" are bot." ], [ "not really Malaysia or Malay issue, they just copy marketing strategy from China n orang putih." ], [ "It's tiktok." ], [ "In this age where information is readily available online." ], [ "if you're spending any considerable amount of money on a product without doing extensive research then its really on you for getting tricked tbh" ], [ "Someone in pc gaming community fb group made a post complaining about this, then that kedai made police report. Something like fitnah or mencarut (the OP did use vulgar words to describe)" ], [ "Yeah the seller said that pc has wifi and the comment asks wifi how much a month hahahaha" ], [ "As a millennial, I see a profit opportunity. If that's what the consumer wants, its what the market will provide.", "Sounds like market ripe for disruption for people who can tell the truth. Whether the good pc is affordable or not i dont know lah.", "good acceptable spec for me usually will range 2K+. anything below is just for school/office work n presentations n maybe for online/retail shops. doing those office stuff." ], [ "We are NOT yet a first world country and many people in Mlysia are not ICT expert,please be real", "Yeah I know. But at the very least they have the knowledge of googling what this and that is. Instead, they just blindly believe what this random person on the internet is saying", "Maybe they are dumb, truly dumb" ], [ "Another thing people often overlook in laptop specs is GPU wattage. There's a reason why some laptops are cheaper than their counterparts (+quality).", "I made that mistake with my previous gaming laptop. I got a Dell G3 the cheap one with GTX 1650. I didn't know the TGP was pretty low at the time. The i5-9300h was also probably bottlenecking my laptop. It was a rookie mistake. Now I moved over to the Lenovo LOQ series with my GPU having 115W TGP. No regrets." ], [ "I don’t play games. So I just buy a M3 MacBook Pro and upgraded the ram to 16GB." ], [ "Probably because people think that gaming pc = console in terms of performance." ], [ "The logic is...as time move forward .. the latest laptop..already capable of playing..games...just don't expect for the game can play at full spec... Need to go basic level...graphic, shadows...etc.. Same like.mobile.phone..now.if go and buy...redmi note 10...already can play games...CODM..pubg... The setting out lowest...for longevity... All the now highest specs expensive pc or mobile fon...after 10 years will be cheap...the technology inside those machine will pass down ... Who know in the year 2030...all the cheap laptop is the high specs..." ], [ "What are their specs?", "Intel celeron should tell you everything. The other one i saw was a chromebook that can't even run the os properly", "💀\nAnd they are passing them off as gaming laptops? That's a scam.", "Celeron should be banned", "celeron? lol wtf" ], [ "most people are not interested in learning stuff outside their interest, like food folks will be ignorant to what they eat.\nit is just for some of us, interest had to be learnt the hard way when we were growing up." ], [ "Probably because people using certain languages usually wouldn't look at the details of those products in other languages due to lacking competency to read and understand long passage plus jargon, so these content creators took this advantage. For example, I used both Italian and Jap to search for best pc 2023, but the recommended vids to watch lesser in Italian which almost all contents come from the same creator (and you never know whether it's accurate without comparison). This can form information cocoons when ppl are unable or fewer to actively search for contents in other languages. And information cocoons are almost every part of society makes wealth from.\n<image>\nBtw I think only Eng and ch can direct more comprehensive search results...other languages..no." ], [ "genuine question from a tech illiterate:\nwhat do y'all think of those custom-built laptops like Illegear, Aftershock, Level51 etc.? Are they worth the price?", "No", "\"local\" brands like illegear, aftershock, level51 just buy chinese odm laptops from manufactures like Clevo or Tongfang, slap their name onto it and sell it\nNothing exactly wrong with that since those 2 brands make for various other brands as well, but the components that can be easily changed (RAM, SSD) would be determined by your reseller (do they give you cheap crappy ssd or good name brand ssd) and also the more important part is the warranty and after sales support\nI wouldn't completely dismiss them, just do your research and pick the best option" ], [ "Me working in retail selling IT stuff: True story bro....." ], [ "well, in my entire life I've only met one dude who knows remotely anything about tech." ], [ "i have to google what “shill” meaning" ], [ "My kid will be lucky to have me. I hope they are good at maths though. But amd integrated nowadays is quite okay, good enough for valorant and genshin which is what kids plays nowadays. Keyword: NOW." ], [ "You guys game with PC?" ] ]

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[ [ "There's nothing wrong tbh, just a landing page", "Could've used official government illustrations/graphics or commissioned an artist to draw up the landing page instead of using AI. Plus there's graphic designers that work in almost every Bahagian Korporat of ministries – use them" ], [ "I did my internship in a software development company few months ago and developers had start using ChatGPT to assist them in coding but mostly for inspection and finding out mistakes" ], [ "Most programmers have been using it now, otherwise how to get future jobs requiring 2 years min experience in AI tools??\nMore important is whether this system, processes, integrations and gov policies can work well to achieve its intended outcomes." ], [ "More context please?\nUhh, what's exactly wrong with the countdown timer? and so what if it is by ChatGPT?\nWhy reinvent the wheel when we developers source common algorithms from StackOverflow/ChatGPT and improve our productivity?", "Ya. More context like how much did they pay for this.", "There's nothing wrong with using ChatGPT, but directly copying and pasting content from ChatGPT without reviewing and editing, they even include original comments, indicates a lack of prior programming knowledge or skills. Remember, first impression is important.\nMoreover, this website will handle highly sensitive citizen data such as ID numbers, names, addresses, etc. How can we ensure the rest of the site will be able to store these information securely? :26554:", "Nothing wrong with their code comments. Simple & straight to the point.", "Imagine removing code comments just because u dont want it to look like chatgpt code and come back later having no clue wtf code is doing 💀", "but directly copying and pasting content from ChatGPT without reviewing and editing, they even include original comments, indicates a lack of prior programming knowledge or skills\nDoesn't even matter mate. It's a countdown timer, it's not a critical module. They can rip off from any source as long as it works.\nRemember, first impression is important.\nNo, the front end UI/UX is the one that's important and not the F12 inspect element. No common user will ever care about code comments. Seriously.\nMoreover, this website will handle highly sensitive citizen data such as ID numbers, names, addresses, etc. How can we ensure the rest of the site will be able to store these information securely?\nJust because some countdown timer in the front end got \"exposed\" to be amateurish doesn't mean it'll pose a security issue. Until there's actual proof that these mentioned critical modules that handles personal/financial data are developed by copy pasting ChatGPT codes, we'll cross the bridge when we get there.\nSource: I'm a Systems Architect/Programmer and I definitely know what I'm talking about.", "I agree with you boss.\nPeople like this contribute nothing." ], [ "It's normal to use github copilot to develop websites or do any sorts of programming nowadays." ], [ "The art might be created using AI but there's no indication in the screenshot that it's made with chatGPT. Who knows if they write it themselves or copied the code somewhere.\nBut the coding style is definitely awful. Using var everywhere. Using innerHTML for simple numbers is also bad." ], [ "Are you a programmer or developer? Because majority of developers nowadays do use ChatGPT to assist in code writing.\nYou're a making a sensational post out of fucking nothing especially on a non-critical trivial module/feature of the site.\nI know this because I recently did the same for my Java Assignment as a ICT Diploma Holder.", "You're a making a sensational post out of fucking nothing especially on a non-critical trivial module/feature of the site.\nBecause empty cans make the most noise.", "As a software developer currently working in the industry, I would be genuinely surprised if any big companies do not have code assist software for the software engineers." ], [ "?????? there is nothing wrong here.\ntf are people bitching about" ], [ "Menjimatkan perbelanjaan negara. Respek kerajaan madani" ], [ "Chatgpt please write Rancangan Malaysia ke-13 💀💀💀", "Please correct grammar mistakes in our Perlembagaan 👽", "Bina kereta terbang Malaysia" ], [ "whats wrong using AI that will definitely replace something in the future.... better start now than being left behind later.... only criticism, plz do QC." ], [ "Bro, stop inventing new wheels; just use tools that have already been developed.\nI don't see any issue here.", "They are a couple issues: a lot of art generation ai programs have been caught illegally using thousands of artist art as datasets and at time generates the actual image made by the original artist themselves.\nMidjourney for example is facing massive lawsuits for illegally using data sets without permission en masses.", "This is a problem the companies developing the Gen AI tools need to be transparent about and deal with. As a user, there is nothing wrong using it. If you are planning to hold your ethical ground, it only positions yourself in a more vulnerable position compared to others who chose to use it (ie more efficient workflow at a cheaper price)." ], [ "They seriously on vanilla JS?", "They seriously on vanilla JS\nSubcon > subcon > subcon > some poor intern", "Govt say PADU is developed in-house. No contractors.", "Damn, now that's new.", "Thats how they manage to do it in 6 months", "they claimed this one fully penjawat awams work", "Then ChatGPT", "well vanilla JS is the best tool for this simple landing page", "Correct, sometimes simple problems just need simple tools.", "I made a meme of you.\n<image>\nDisclaimer: I have a computer science degree but know nothing about web development or programming.", "Nooo, i i need overbloated js framework to make a simple countdown", "Vanilla JS is best and timeless when done right." ], [ "Bro really expects the government to create the countdown algorithm within their own language that runs on their own engine that built within their own specialized browser" ], [ "There is nothing wrong with using available resources" ], [ "Work smart. Not hard." ], [ "efficient." ], [ "whats PADU website about? as in what form of financial management specifically?" ], [ "as someone who currently learning to code, I leave so many comments in my code because if I want to debug, refresh my memory on wtf I am doing before, or help co-workers/future employees understand it. nothing wrong with that, it's just good practice. I feel like this is also like standard thing to do. also for this kind of stuff just use dateFns" ], [ "Haha…Ez money for the kabel IT company", "Who's gonna tell him?" ], [ "That stupid looking ai generated background. these fucks got paid to use ai. probably img2img real art too. Dumbass probably copy pasted prompts too. Are we out of real artist in this country? Why go with AI? I think any fresh graduate can do better. You don't even have to pay them much.\n<image>", "This AI generated is quite ok, but please assign an artist to revamp it to make it much better tho. Do menteri ask chatgpt before making decision 🤨", "This AI generated is quite ok\nI disagree. And you want an actual artist who can produce 100x better quality to touch up some AI generated image? It will take more effort to fix it than to create it from scratch.", "What I meant was artist can refer to AI (but better don’t la) and redraw the whole thing to enhance and correct the small small mistakes. Still I’m agree your point that just don’t malas and draw it by human, especially government have more resources than we do and they should be an example to promote Malaysian style creative talent work. 🇲🇾\nIf I might wrong, I am truly apologize to you.", "You know the government is lazy when they don't even bother to draw their own flag correctly", "This is so true... There are so many talented artists in MY and they decided to use AI" ], [ "Does anyone not use AI at work nowadays? If I see someone doing it old school I think twice about promoting them, they probably can't adapt to the present era." ], [ "the same website that we will collectively use to update our financial data was developed by chat gpt?:26554:", "This makes you think twice about giving your data to the government." ], [ "nothing wrong tbh. as long as they just didn't copy paste directly...its all good." ] ]

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[ [ "This old man still making up random stories? He used to be an Anwar d1ckrider during the reformasi days.", "This guy lived overseas which means he can make the wildest claims towards Malaysia and get away with it. I'm not even surprised if he is not Malaysian anymore.", "Hes the cousin of the selangor king right?", "Yes and he currently staying in Manchester." ], [ "Lmao, money can't buy lawyers. We must be living in different worlds." ], [ "this fella once proclaimed confirm BN will win election because he had insiders , willing to bet etc. then PH won and he krik krik" ], [ "Man with no credibility and want to stay relevant cos need fund to survive in Manchester.. Once try to term himself to legendary Hang Jebat.. More like hang cipet" ], [ "Isnt it mahathir who challenge anwar to get him?\nHe is just answering the challenge, isn’t he?" ], [ "\"Attorney-General (AG) has advised the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) and the Royal Malaysia Police (PDRM) that the manner in which action was taken against Daim and Dr Mahathir is both unlawful and went against the Federal Constitution. “But they (MACC and PDRM) have been instructed by Anwar (Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim) that action has to be taken against the trio by hook or by crook,” Police and MACC used as political tools to silence political opponents/enemies?? 😆", "You missed the most important part in your quote above:\nInterestingly, the Manchester, UK-based RPK claimed that the Attorney-General (AG) has advised the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) and the Royal Malaysia Police (PDRM) that the manner in which action was taken against Daim and Dr Mahathir is both unlawful and went against the Federal Constitution.\n“But they (MACC and PDRM) have been instructed by Anwar (Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim) that action has to be taken against the trio by hook or by crook,” asserted RPK.\nJust a reminder also that RPK is the very definition of yellow journalism, and that the article is entirely comprised of unsupported claims and allegations by him.", "RPK already completely lost his credibility since 1MDB days. We can just treat his words as total crap.", "Thanks for that. I used to read him. But he never credited sources. In the end it's all gossip and rumours. Disappointing all around.", "This was him 8 years ago. I'm still curious what kind of golden shower tape those higher ups have on him.\nhttps://www.sarawakreport.org/2015/09/surprise-surprise-look-who-is-here-rpk/", "Live long enough to become the Villian #SAD", "Have you heard about his son?\nI compiled this few years ago, maybe it's just a coincidence...\n2008 April, RPK wrote an expose in his blog about Najib/Rosmah's involvement in Altantuya's murder\n2008 May, RPK goes on trial for sedition\n2008 Jun, RPK in a statutory declaration claims that Rosmah was present during Altantuya's murder\n2008 Sep, RPK sent to Kamunting, gets two-year detention\n2008 Nov, RPK released from ISA after court order\n2009 Jan-April(?), RPK fled Malaysia\n2009 April, RPK fails to appear in court for sedition trial, arrest warrant issued\n2009 May, RPK's son pleads guilty to theft (First instance of the name \"Raja Azman Raja Petra\" appearing on google, no news about his arrest nor mention of his name exists prior to 19 May 2009)\n2009 May, RPK second arrest warrant issued\n2009 Jun, RPK's son changes plea to not guilty in theft case\n2010 Feb, RPK's son survive attempted suicide in Sungai Buloh prison, cut wrist and swallowed razor blades Doctor said no surgery required as he will shit out the blades naturally....ヽ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ノ\n2010 Sep, RPK’s son freed of two charges\n2011 April, RPK retract accusation about Najib/Rosmah involvement in Altantuya case in TV3 interview, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPFEx42cYog\n2011 July, RPK's son acquitted of all charges", "Fuh, now this is interesting, thanks for the timeline, I'm saving this if you don't mind." ], [ "Honestly it's not a bad idea. Get these old men in a boxing ring and let them Duke it out." ] ]

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[ [ "road sure are greener in the past /j" ] ]

[ "Environment" ]

[ [ "Really neat spotlight on a local fish. Seems like a neat schooling fish to keep in a planted tank. Despite not being as eye catching as the more popular chilies they still look neat", "I think they are one of the most colourful true Rasbora species in Malaysia.\nMost are silvery like Rasbora myersi and Rasbora vulgaris. And some have no photographs due to rarity so I don’t know about those" ] ]

[ "Tourism & Travel" ]

[ [ "The view is horrible though. The old airport before reno had better ones.", "That's I say about covers A little bit of view", "Don't know why you're downvoted but that's true." ], [ "Any other choices?" ], [ "Thanks a lot for the fun fact" ] ]

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[ [ "Jeng Jeng Jeng ! ex- PM duringcovid-19 from east coast. Ismail Sabri 🤣 So PMX continues vendetta against all those against him 😁", "He knows they will do the same shit to him. He is doing it while he has power now. Our politicians dont care about the rakyat but themselves only lol", "I mean, if the turtle committed any abuse of power to siphon money, it has to be done." ] ]

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[ [ "🐓" ] ]

[ "Sports" ]

[ [ "because the result will speak for themselves. keep winning and the hype will come naturally. sabah football team did just that.", "Sabah has been really impressive last year, especially in AFC Cup. Hope they remain as title (or more realistically 2nd place) challengers for the next few seasons", "Yeah I followed Cheah Liek Khou closely before the recent Paralympics and his noteriety was niche right until his performance in that badminton match. Soon enough I saw him racking a SHIT ton of supporters and followers overnight after he won." ], [ "Yeah we should. Asian Cup is the highest achievable spot for us imo." ], [ "Just air it on RTM for free like the ol day", "sekarang dah takde kat rtm ke?" ], [ "This is the second Asian Cup after expanding to 24 teams from 16 teams, with 6 groups of 4.\nTop 2 of each group will progress to the Round of 16.\nThe best 4 3rd-place teams will also join the 12 teams above.\nMalaysia is in the same group as Jordan, Bahrain and South Korea. We play those 3 in that order.\nCan basically forget about getting anything from South Korea, just hope Son Heung-min don't score more than 1. Though our coach Kim Pan-gon (KPG) used to be youth coach for South Korea himself, so that might count for something.\nUnder KPG our FIFA ranking has actually gone up due to us qualifying for the Asian Cup for the first time since 1980 (2007 doesn't count since we were joint hosts).\nFor a football minnow nation like us, we should be aiming for at least 1 of these 3 objectives:\nScore at least 1 goal overall. And if we are to lose, try not to concede more than 3 goals per match.\nGet at least 1 point (i.e. 1 draw, even a 0-0 counts towards that. We got 0pts in 2007)\nTry to finish 3rd and hope we're good enough as one of the 4 best 3rd-place teams, to give us another match in the knockout rounds (though nobody dare to hope for more afterwards)\nWill probably catch the highlights for the matches (if we don't get thrashed too badly), but as others have said, this isn't exactly the WC, and many of us are still more interested in higher quality competitions like the English Premier League and UEFA Champions League.\nIt will take Malaysia progressing from the group stage in order to heighten awareness for this tournament." ], [ "Back when DUNHILL used to sponsor Selangor, there were match schedules EVERYWHERE at all the mamak and kopitiam selling cigarettes\nDUNHILL used to plonk on M-League on local TV all the time, with lots of adverts in the newspapers, local magazines and tv1\nThese new sponsors don't do squat\nEvery single time Malaysia attempts to bypass mediocrity, they just revel in the moment instead of planning for the future\nWe had the BEST F1 back in the 90s, with hotels, bars, clubs all chiming in. You had F1 cars in hotels, clubs. F1 drivers partying in KL. Merchandise sold in Bukit Bintang. But towards the latter years, no one bothered to promote anything" ], [ "FAM macam biasa la. Patut ada tournament jersey, but they’ll be using the same old one. Cam bangang." ], [ "tbh as a football fan, I can't wait!! I'll go crazy if Arif Aiman blazes past Kim Min-jae and the Korean defense.\nI just don't have the funds to fly to Qatar......" ], [ "Tournament tak start lagi nak hype apa. Dekat seminggu nanti baru la start borak", "I mean the tournament is just two weeks away and its the first time malaysia is playing the tournament after around 40 years so yeah we should be excited as hell. Dalam thread tu sendiri ada cakap asian cup ni macam euro or copa america so betul juga post tu.", "Takde content lagi kot nak sembang. Boleh sembang pun prediction siapa lepas grp stage, formation apa nak main. Nanti lepas arif aiman kitai kim min jae atau dion cools parap heung min son baru aa rancak borak" ], [ "ill be blunt\n- winning the tournament doesn't book a slot to world cup\n- the match where HM beat kyrgyzstan was for wc qualification round, hence the louder noise\n- even without malaysia participation, do you watch Asian Cup?\ncomparing with world cup hype is like between apple and oranges. euro or copa america would make much sense, as its the same level of major competition within region.\nthat said, i believe the squad will do its best to gain as much international experience as they can. real test is on the WC quals which involves 4-5 phases depending on achievements. although you can say Asian Cup would be a testament on the actual level of our national team." ], [ "Don’t have much expectation for them. But go go Harimau Malaya❤️" ], [ "Me, not a football fan, I don't get the excitement, but would be happy to sit down and watch our boys play, anytime." ], [ "Tengok JDT penuh stadium, tengok Piala Asia? it is more emptier than Times Square's malls LOL." ], [ "We really should be more hyping...\nNah.. zero hype for me. Don't even watch world cup or any football league.", "Then youre not the target audience la der" ], [ "We should just focus on sports we're good at like Badminton, Hockey and Takraw. Be like Indian and Pakistan, they focus more on crickets than football.\nMalaysian football is a waste of investment. No big European club will pay Malaysian club millions for our players", "a \"waste of investment\" is always a sustained commitment away from being a gold mine.\nLook at JDT, the most dominant team in Malaysia; I don't really like the team that much because they seem to always win, but kudos to TMJ - the sustained commitment he made towards that team, means that:\nthey go out of their way to build world-class facilities (e.g. new stadium and modern training centre) for the players,\nthey hire well-known proven coaches from overseas (e.g. Esteban Solari who was assistant coach for Argentina youth national team),\nthey bring in well-known high quality foreign players (e.g. Mauricio, Forestieri - they have played actively in Top 5 European leagues before coming to JDT)\nthey naturalize foreign players who come here to play long term (e.g. Sumareh),\nthey recruit good players with Malaysian ties to come play for club and country (e.g. Corbin-Ong),\nand build strategic partnerships with European teams (Dortmund) to further improve their team.\nIn the end, both the club and the national team improve tremendously as a result of good players, coaches, facilities and methodologies, and other teams are inspired to follow suit and play catch-up with JDT, who are praised as pioneers and visionaries.\nNow JDT is highly regarded as one of the best teams in Southeast Asia, and have enjoyed great success in local and regional competitions.\nAs for the million dollar player thing, thanks to these investments in coaching and training, JDT has uncovered many great talent from within the country, most notably Arif Aiman who is gaining attention from big Asian clubs in Japan, Korea...... etc due to his performances in regional competitions.\nSo why not make that commitment? Don't avoid it because no one has ever done it before and you're scared of failing, do it to show them how they can do it themselves.", "All the effort just to be the #130 team in the world? Why be number 130th in football when we can be top 10 in hockey, badminton, takraw or other sports we actually good at? We shouldn't overspend on football development but let it progress naturally", "We are #130 but we are punching well above our weight class at times. Compared to where we were a few years ago being 160th and below, this is a massive improvement.\nfor me \"natural progress\" is basically another term for \"leaving it to rot\". Modern sports is about the money; without substantial, long-term investment and dedication, you cannot expect huge improvements like what we saw with the national team.", "Even with the wealth that the Saudis have, they'll never be as good as other poorer nation like Morocco, Algiers and Senegal. We lost financially against richer nation. We also lost talent wise against poorer nations. The best solution is to let the sports grow naturally. If it were meant to rot, so be it." ] ]

[ "Economy & Finance" ]

[ [ "I pay the 10% during the purchase right?", "Yup", "But what if I buy it from an online store abroad, instead of something like Lazada / Shopee ?\nI will have to pay when the parcel arrives at kastam ?", "iirc, you do need to pay for that 10% any items that being imported from other country to Malaysia will be charged with that 10% tax." ] ]

[ "Economy & Finance" ]

[ [ "The middle class will sweat because they do not know what they will lose after disclosure . 😅", "Suddenly taxed af. So better check so govt don't Oops and make a mistake :26559:", "You just exceeded our cutoff limit for petrol subsidy by rm200. You have to pay full price from next month.", "You joke but it happened to my mom. It was her first experience filing tax relief on her own after my father suffered from stroke and had to take long sabbatical leave from work.\nDue to my father long keave, she accidently check my father as unemployed which grants tax relief of RM4000. Thing is Inland Revenue double checked the info with my dad's account and found that he is still employed. So my mom didn't receive the RM4000 relief and still pay the actual amount of income tax.\nThat was in 2019\nThis year, a letter from Inland revenue came demanding almost RM2000 from her in additional tax from that one misclick years ago.\nSo please verify data with PADU or other gov agencies to be correct else you'll pay the price", "More like: Fuel getting expensive? Why not convert to EV? We have rebates, no road tax fee for first year boa bla bla. Oh btw we're increasing the electricity tariff. Majulah bersama Madani 🫶🏻❤️", "200k ev ☠️", "There are cheaper EVs. But yes cheapest is probably RM110K" ], [ "they still dont change the ai background only blur it a bit so people dont notice lmao:26554:" ], [ "What is PADU (from Soyacincau.com) .\nThe objective of PADU is to combine all the data from various government agencies into a single database. Through PADU, the government believe that it will be able to get a clearer picture of the household income in Malaysia which would then enable it to distribute subsidies more effectively as well as establish better policies in the future.\nWhen users log into PADU, they will see more than 270 data fields in the system. In addition to personal information such as full name, MyKad number, and age, you will also be able to see information regarding dependents, income, vehicles, and many more.\nIn other words, you don’t have to input information into the system from scratch. All in all, what PADU needs for you is to verify and update the information that it has gathered from other agencies although do note that you only have up until 31 March 2024 to do this.", "Says combine data from various gov agencies. So why do we need to key in details manually? Im sure all the data they need can get at str, lhdn, epf, jpn, kastam, immigration and so on.", "From what I've read before in another article, you don't really need to key in any info unless your info in the database pulled from various agencies are outdated." ], [ "data are secure ?", "Probably not" ], [ "Still not open :29091: Malaysia Boleh!" ], [ "What the hell is this anyway" ] ]

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[ [ "I thought the stalker case would be critical since he is the first person to be charged under the law, but no, it was just a byline under the Paul Yong rape case.\nThe stalker trial will set a precedent for subsequent stalkers in Malaysia. Too low a punishment and it fails to be a deterrent." ], [ "Very good read actually, thank you for sharing OP!" ] ]

[ "Meme Monday" ]

[ [ "For Malaysian memes every day of the week, please check out c/memeeveryday at our sister community monyet.cc! (why?)\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns." ], [ "It mentions that items \"brought\" into malaysia, so if its merchants who dropship from outside of malaysia, they get taxed, but products who locally ship within malaysia are exempt from the 10% tax?", "Yeah, pretty much that. The rule is just extension to the current import tax for purchases from overseas, just with items under RM500 included now.", "So as long as the online merchant's I buy from ship within Malaysia, I won't get penalized with the 10% tax id it's below rm 500.", "Buying directly from an overseas vendor still seems to be cheaper than a dropshipper." ], [ "baik kasi balik 6% gst", "Anwar will add the 6% on top of the current sst and lvg", "With GST, everything you buy is taxed 6%. SST has a far narrower scope of things taxed." ], [ "I find it kinda weird when it's being \"demonized\" as increasing the cost, not being considerate of the B40s etc etc. But, the fact is just that they're removing the threshold exemption on import duty for goods below RM500.\nBuy from a local producer/distributor, done. I guess now importers would do things in bulk, which may be a good thing since buying in bulk would usually give you bulk discount. But, this could also give a reason for sellers to up the price for the \"risk premium\" too.\nI guess, bad marketing?", "Its because generally sellers will raise price instead.\nIf you locally price your item at RM3 and foreign equivalent items went from RM3.50 to RM 3.85, you know the market can bear a RM0.50 difference, so you will raise your price to RM3.35. Still 50 sens lower. Your net profit may literally double from this.\nNot everyone will do it... But generally this will happen or atleast is perceived to happen.", "correct me i am wrong but isn't the main reason people buy foreign equivalent items because it's more cheaper? Wouldn't saying foreign equivalent items went from RM2.50 to RM 3.10 would be more accurate as the purpose is to give local supplier the advantage. But if local supplier took the opportunity to raise it to rm 3.30-3.50 instead just seem counterproductive.", "But if local supplier took the opportunity to raise it to rm 3.30-3.50 instead just seem counterproductive.\nWelcome to economics. The government may want to do A, but get B result. People are greedy and will game the system.\nhttps://www.smh.com.au/property/news/governments-spent-20-5b-on-first-home-buyer-help-that-pushes-up-prices-report-20220707-p5azx3.html\nAust gov gave (so to speak) free money for first time home buyers, hoping to increase home ownership. House sellers naik harga since (a subset of) buyers budget increased.\n\"Australian governments spent more than $20.5 billion on first home buyer help in the past decade, which made housing affordability worse by driving up property prices and left existing homeowners richer, new research found.\"\ncorrect me i am wrong but isn't the main reason people buy foreign equivalent items because it's more cheaper?\nI buy cos more options... But price is definitely a plus point. Just saw someone's house deco snow globe thingy. RM170 got blowing 'snow', 6ft stand, lights, moving pieces AND music. Price include delivery. Wtf kind of price is that wei. (from taobao)\nSo now its more expensive and I'm relatively sure no one locally can fabricate it for sub rm200. There's atleast 2 independent small motors inside. Maybe 3.\nAnyway, we do the cheap export thing too, lol. https://www.malaysia-today.net/2012/01/18/protons-more-expensive-in-malaysia-than-overseas/", "Thanks for sharing , it just sad always got these people lying around waiting pounce on this kind of advantage, in the end the government was the one getting flakked even if the intention of policies is rational", "It's partially a protectionism thing. Let local producers profit more. It's fine if they raise salary together.\nBuy Malaysian products", "... They won't?\nSalaries don't go up cos its contracted. Government in 2024 may abolish this tax. Or reduce by 50% to 5%. Salaries can't (or hard) to go down.\nAlso owners will think... Staff same work, price difference only... Why they deserve increase. I tak harap the owners in general, jaded already.", "What happens if I buy 2x shoes in the example given? Would it still be taxed? Does that not mean bulk ordering will still result in each unit being taxed 10%?", "My bad, I got it wrong. I misunderstood how the tax works, I'm really sorry. It is charged not by total value, but by sales value of the goods. So, it'll be charged item per item.\nSo, if we're importing 10 units of something worth RM100 each (total import value of RM1000), still be taxed for each item.", "Anything imported >rm500 has always been taxed btw and that isn't changing.\nI actually don't mind the tax too much but the process itself is quite a hassle if not expensive. Each claim you always have to pay rm18 fee on top of the 10% and if you don't want to drive to the airport yourself to claim your parcel then you have to pay another rm50 on top of the rm18 and the 10%. At least that's how it was before", "What I mean is that the tax is charged as per single unit, not total value. As long as the unit price is below RM500, it will be taxed. I was correcting my previous comment.", "What is the difference between charging as per single unit with charging as per total value tho since it's always 10% anyway regardless if the stuff is >rm500 or not?", "Oh damn, I'm dumb. No difference in buying in bulk one way or another too. Thanks for pointing that out. I feel so stupid rn." ], [ "How can they find out if you buy from overseas ?", "Visible players like Shopee & Lazada will comply. Probably added to their platform already.", "umm,the items from overseas have to go through customs right?", "Managed by kastam, inspected by kastam, go through kastam" ], [ "so is it LGV or LVG? lol", "Low Value Goods", "yeah LVG makes more sense, i am just picking on the spelling mistake in the picture lol", "I read that as Louis Vuitton Goods. So atas sia", "Louis van Gaal", "The Customs Department uses LVG, so it’s probably that." ], [ "Previously somebody here on this topic said the imported items were never taxed so this law is to close the loophole, is this true?" ], [ "Tax is for the benefits of the country. Don't complain. Expect less potholes/religious agendas/racism this year /s", "Yes, Tax helps to benefit the country... IF AND ONLY IF they are actually used for the country.", "affordable education/health services ?", "both education/health services are still a joke after all the stupid taxes since gst crap.", "joke to you but not to the poor", "Yes let's help the poor by tax the poor,10/10 smart move.", "but this is not GST right?", "Tax for buying goods from overseas below rm500,I don't see any difference here, don't tell just beli buatan Malaysia la because most of the stuff we use on daily basis except food are from overseas,you think this will help local sellers when most of the stuff they sold were bought from overseas? they buy cheap from China sell it here with markup prices and government want to protect them and not us as consumers?", "just to feed the malay" ], [ "Does it get charged upon payment check out? Anyone know how it is implemented?", "From the items in my cart that I remember, the 10% is already added to the displayed price. This is true for both Lazada and Shopee. A lot of them are more than 10% too ;_;", "Arghhhh whether it’s overseas sellers local, I feel like all prices sure go up since many local sellers also get their stock from overseas :(" ], [ "Ah yes now all my taobao order will kena tax. Good year" ], [ "What about items from eBay? Does it mean we’ll get double tax? I bought items from US and was taxed. Would I get taxes twice here?" ], [ "Inilah Malaysia Madani. Rakyat susah", "Ini untuk barang import.", "Yeap kita tak perlu risau, pada tahun 2379 kelak Malaysia akan menjadi hab penghalisan and pemprosesan barangan terutama di dunia. Kita tidak perlu lagi bergantung dengan barangan dari negara luar. Wawasan Madanon 2420 :29091::29091::29091:", "no, i want cheap crap from overseas", "Berape peratus barang yg jual online bkn import? lol. Local seller kalo nmpk harga barang online dah naik harga, ko igt diorg tak naik juga ke?", "tahu la" ], [ "Please don't complain guys, you'll see how reforms will benefit us in the long run. Give or take 70-80 years. By then our currency will be higher than SGD (Singapura sudah tenggelam bawah laut) :26554::26554::26554:\nYay, let us pay more taxes :29091::29091::29091::29091:" ], [ "For those asking for GST back, I can’t help but wonder, how often and how much are you all spending on items from overseas?\nI remember GST, it fucking hurts to see that extra 6% charge on every spending. This is especially true for someone not earning city level salaries.\nOn average I only order overseas items a few times a year, mostly because local stores are significantly more expensive. While I hate LVG tax as much as the next person, in my case it won’t be as impactful as the all encompassing net that was GST.\nAlso, I remember how our government promised to use GST funds to improve public transport. What does that means for Sabahans? Jack shit!\nUntil there’s transparency, I say no to GST." ], [ "Yeayyyyyy more taxes. pantek" ], [ "For those saying us buying overseas item just because of cheap price, there some item that are only available overseas but have page on online platform.\n<image>" ], [ "Got problem?" ], [ "Terbaik mahaldahni" ], [ "So you made 41k in sale this month then?" ], [ "and if we buy from oversea ourselves how do we pay the taxes? hire Postage agent? have to pay agent fees on top of the 10% tax?", "yea i wonder as well. don't forget the rm18 fee for the form (borang)" ], [ "Dumbest tax ever" ], [ "previously many ppl shop from overseas but underdeclare the value to avoid tax. example the item rm1k, will get taxed, but if declare rm400 no tax. so government rugi alot of tax on these. then now they include the items below 500 lo" ], [ "", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of Rule 1: Bigotry and hate speech. Because of our history Malaysia talks about certain issues such as race very differently from Western countries. We acknowledge this on the subreddit but do draw some boundaries to keep discussions healthy.\nDefinition of bigotry: The act of treating the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.\nBasic principle: If it's an attribute of a person that is out of their control and extremely hard or impossible to change, it's not nice to dump on them or their group just for that attribute.\nSome categories this applies to: Race, religion, sexuality, disability, national origin.\nSlurs: Use of slurs on the above categories is not encouraged on this subreddit and may be subject to warnings and bans.\nExample: Religion: It's okay to discuss and criticise aspects of the religion itself, but it's not okay to attack people because they are members of that religion (e.g.: Islam but not Muslims).\nBanned 1 day for repeated offence." ], [ "Be frugal. Use as much vouchers/coupons as you can. They help reduce the price a bit." ], [ "Highkey upset cuz i got posted (healthcare field) to east malaysia. Do you know how exp it is to pay shopee lazada shipping fees? And rural areas is very hard to buy stuff in local stores 🥲 I survived off china online shopping for daily stuff. The shipping fees + product cost = more affordable than local stores….." ], [ "Few years back i ordered whey protein from Europe. Total was 900. Shipping was free stated in invoice which customs saw. They decided to charge me 50% tax at 450 ringgit. I no time to go customs so used poslaju broker service at rm50 to clear for me and bring to nearest pos malaysia office for pickup. I never ordered from overseas again now that the brand is sold here. I do know will kena tax but i read it was like under 10%. But mine charged 50%! What in the world. They said customs officer moody that day so my bad luck." ], [ "Genuine question, what’s manufactured in Malaysia and not imported?" ] ]

[ "Tourism & Travel" ]

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[ "COVID-19" ]

[ [ "Mask up, people." ] ]

[ "Tourism & Travel" ]

[ [ "Hello! Eateries & bars will be open during Ramadan so no worries there. I don’t think hostels are ever empty and no, activities won’t be restricted whatsoever!" ], [ "Will Hostels be empty? Will bars and restaurants be closed?\n> In the city? never. You might want to check on hotel prices as it might be cheap for you. Hostel can be hit and miss at times.\nscuba diving, enjoying the beaches, nature and wildlife\n> Rural areas tends to be Muslim majority. Some areas still have non-muslim resident so there is a possibility you can find Chinese eateries but they follow specific opening hours. In towns you should be able to easily find KFC/ McDonalds as last resort - in general food options should be there in towns. It really depends where you have this activities. You better check in advance if the operators are fasting." ], [ "Plenty of places still open, its not as bad as the Middle East where its legit trickier to find open restaurants during fasting hours - Malaysia has a larger number of non-muslims (30%+) so establishments run by non muslims are still operating as usual. That or happy eating fast food." ], [ "Probably the best time to visit as well. During day time restaurants, malls and tourist attractions are definitely less pack than usual" ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "Not sure if he was being a sycophant or sarcastic here. Surely, Anwar and Izzah aren't as bad as Zulfikar-Benazir or Sukarno-Megawati yeah?\nShould've given a more valid comparison smh", "like who, Yingluck Shinawatra? /s" ], [ "Nepo baby who singlehandedly lost the seat her family felt they had a divine right to is somehow being touted as a PM candidate. Meme levels of political commentary lol.", "You know what's funny about that is she's still acting like the MP at Permatang Pauh simply because a lot of people there asking for her help because they don't know where the PN MP's office lol.\nThere was a case earlier this year that she helped getting some new bikes for a group of neighbours where their bikes had been burned.\nThe PN MP came and offered a prayer.\nA prayer.", "To them, that was the best thing they could have given to their malay voters.", "Résumé [1]:\nAhli Parlimen Permatang Pauh\nCEO Yayasan Darul Hadis Al Filfilaniyyah\nBekas Eksekutif Zakat Pulau Pinang\nPendakwah\nExco Dewan Pemuda Pas Negeri Pulau Pinang\nExco Dewan Pemuda Pas Kawasan Permatang Pauh\nAhli Jawatankuasa Lajnah Keahlian Ulamak Pelapis\nPenasihat Majlis Ilmu Pulau Pinang\nPenasihat Sekolah Rendah Intergrasi Teras Islam (SRITI) Darul Hadis\nAhli Lembaga Pengarah Maahad Tahfiz Kejai\nChildren [2]:\n11\nHobby:\nMengawan\n[1] https://pru.sinarharian.com.my/calon/5097/muhammad-fawwaz-mohamad-jan\n[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Fawwaz_Mohamad_Jan\nTrivia: he is age 40, which means he has been actively procreate in the last 10 years." ], [ "I actually think nurul is the 1 running mof right now. Anwar just sign off whatver nurul gives him.\nI believe nurul was actually the 1 anwar wants to be minister of finance. But he knows full well it wont go well politically. So, he just puts himself as mof, but the one actually running it in the shadows is nurul.", "Your assumption is completely inaccurate." ], [ "I don't think Izzah wants people to compare her to the politician who was assassinated by the Islamist." ], [ "Yes. Benazir Bhutto Pak Hang" ] ]

[ "Tourism & Travel" ]

[ [ "if it rains heavily, not so" ], [ "The roads aren't bad for most part. It's pretty regular road until you reach Cameron, then the roads get a tad bit worse at some places. The traffic can be terrible depending on when you go as it is a favourite get away spot for many Malaysians.\nGenerally if you can, go on a non-holiday week day and gtfo on Saturday at latest." ], [ "It’s possible. But it will rain and you will probably freeze when wet on the mountain. If it doesn’t there is a possibility that those rented bikes are gonna overheat. The traffic is not too bad on some days better than others but I would not recommend going on that trip without the right gear and preparation. But in case u still wanna go you should book in the Smokehouse it’s an amazing place to stay on the Cameron’s. Have fun and enjoy Malaysia." ], [ "Yes, it's safe. You'd need something with a bit more grunt to get up the hills though, so most rental scooters below 155 cc are not suitable unless riding solo.\nIf you need more info please DM." ], [ "Can anyone recommend a good private driver for the day?" ] ]

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[ "Education" ]

[ [ "These mfs have no idea how roundabouts work. First 10 lessons going around roundabouts.", "I kid you not, when I attended driver's school, neither the lessons nor the exams covered roundabouts. The \"left lane to exit 1 and 2, right lane for exit 3 and so on\" thing was discovered by me on the internet only recently.", "Its in the book and syllabus, you guys need to study that to pass the exam right?", "My undang \"teacher\" was thirty minutes late to the class. He never covered that topic, nor did any related questions came up in the exam (by some chance idk). My mother, who also taught me how to drive, also seemed oblivious of that law. When it comes to roundabouts, her solution is \"just don't drive parallel to others, they might need to change lanes\".\nNevertheless, I live in a small town (Ipoh) and traffic isn't too heavy, so you can agak2 your way through roundabouts. Things only changed when I came to KL.", "Man, that kinda explains why people are so clueless around roundabouts in the klang valley. Sabah they quite pro, maybe better training.", "Because in Sabah if you suck at roundabouts you probably will get hit by Hilux\nI travel to Sabah frequently for work and I had to git gud at learning how to drive in Sabah.\nDriving in WM is ezpz just gotta watch out for the J/P/D plates, or a random Myvi going the speed of sound", "I don't recall having a \"undang\" teacher 😅 Thought it was just a booklet to memorize", "Im gonna take the middle", "Agreed. Trying to use a roundabout will give me a heart attack especially here in JB.", "Roundabouts are second nature for me.\nI live in Shah Alam.", "My god Shah Alam have a roundabout fetish. Good thing people there are good at it.", "i just kena this idiot using roundabout twice. normal road he's driving normally, slightly slower than other cars but that's fine. once he reach roundabout and he wants to take a 3 o'clock he'll go to the left lane then force the inner lane car to brake so he can take the 3 o'clock.\n2nd time he was behind me, near roundabout he cuts out to the left, speeds up and tries to do the same thing. this time to me.\nwtf seriously." ], [ "The problem is they don't care, not they don't know", "Should give them real consequences then. The duit kopi has got to stop and real enforcement should be carried out responsibility. This whole situation is a chicken and egg problem.", "Duit kopi has to stop? Bro, even Santa will ask what colour you want your dragon to be.", "How does duit kopi relate to santa and dragon colours?", "It's a joke. Christmas joke.", "Point he’s making is that Santa asking about what colour you want your dragon to be is more likely to happen than corruption getting curbed", "Well it's easier to migrate to a country that has strict rule of law than to hope to change this lek lu cincai country from top to bottom", "Just get rid of roads and cars. Build more public transport and convert roads into pedestrian and cycling lanes.\nNo road, no car, no asshole driver. Problem solved." ], [ "This was an actual quote from my driving teacher: \"Malaysian driving test is the easiest to pass and easiest to die.\"", "Very accurate" ], [ "Oh it definitely is flawed. Duit kopi settles everything. Theory just covers maybe 20% of what you actually need to know. And fuck me how are people still clueless about using roundabouts? It’s as if once we enter one, all rules don’t apply." ], [ "The problem is not in the teaching but the attitude and the enforcement. Just take a look at the highly educated nations with high HDI such as Singapore — as soon as they cross the border the whole civilised mindset is put on pause.", "Well said.", "Haha that's very true. My friend says Singaporeans turn into devils on msian roads." ], [ "No need.\nWe just need enforcement.", "Enforcement more on lane hogger, blur driver and phone use.", "You will need education on enforcement, and corruption too.", "Yea this. We got a handbook of rules (not sure now, I'm old). Everything from round abouts, lane-merging and T-junctions were all there. Though the emphasis at the time was a lot on passing and memorising the steps to do so, like everything other educational thing in this country." ], [ "I personally do feel that the driving syllabus should be more technical covering basic defensive driving techniques. There should also be like an annual/bi annual rechecks (?) or recertifications for senior citizens after they passed a certain age to certify that they are still fit for driving especially in terms of vision and hearing capabilities" ], [ "Lesen very expensive overhaul that first" ], [ "In addition to this, the way roads are designed is plain stupid. Road markings are often not up to date, and the roads themselves are not well maintained. Highways should also be designed properly. I remember trying to enter a highway only for there to be a fucking wall on the on-ramp." ], [ "I took Singapore's Basic Theory Test (same as our Undang) during my licence conversion. Their Undang has one important thing that ours didn't teach --- what to do when your car skids.\nThey also have two theory tests before the practical, first is this Basic Theory Test, then they have a Final Theory Test" ], [ "I think rather than education being the main problem, the attitude of drivers are the issue, like I bet there's 3 people here that will say \"I don't care how gila I drive my car, if my car can drive 200km/h, I will drive 200km/h in taman area.\"" ], [ "Yes.\nWhen I took my lessons they didn't even teach you how to physically change a tire. I wanted to but the instructor was like 'tak payah lah' which is absurd because knowing how to change a tire in theory doesn't translate to being actually able to change a tire. So many corners cut.\nAlso the bribes. So shit.", "I agree. Most of my driving skills and mentality comes from those driving school youtube channels. My instructor prepared me for passing the exam and maybe a bit of knowledge about Malaysian roads. So far, I’ve been teaching myself “real driving skills” ever since getting my Ps." ], [ "Wholeheartedly agree. Ill be marked misogynistic but get fucked, some bitches doesnt know how to drive. Hogging fast lane going 30kmph while playing phone, IN THE HIGHWAY. They dont even watch right or left they just fucking move masa tukar simpang. Almost died twice this month.\nMen does shit like this too, but its just more common among women, or at least where im from. And its tiring sia tukar lane pun x bagi signal. Belajar apa masa lesen ntah." ], [ "Every time I’m in Malaysia I’m amazed how bad people drive. In my country the number of road fatalities is 88 per 10 million inhabitants. In Malaysia the same statistic is 410.000, so about 4700 times worse.", "True. I just came back to Malaysia after visiting Australia for a while and I truly got a reverse culture shock at how people drive. There might be some Aussie bad apples on the road here and there but drivers are generally pretty great there. Meanwhile, I forgot how crazy Malaysian traffic is." ], [ "Strict enforcement and punishment. Like ccp. Got saman? Cannot renew license. Each saman will deduct point. After reaching 0, gantung license.\nActually we do have that, but biasa ya bayar duit kopi boleh settle. So in the end, ketamakan is the main cause.", "Someone: If you don't have license, they cannot gantung your license" ], [ "For me, need ongoing strict enforcement. This may very likely be unpopular, but the gov needs to stand their ground on this 1 instead of worry too much on what people say in twitter.", "I’ve got an idea. Why do we even announce speed cameras? Shouldn’t they be kept hidden as to their location? If we know where the cameras are, nobody will actually follow the speed limit outside of the zones.", "This actually started when AES introduced. Many people questioned the legality of speed traps. If im not mistaken, the findings were, need to inform road users there are speed traps in the area.", "Maybe it's because nobody follows the speed limit inside the zones if you don't announce it" ], [ "no. stricter law and enforcement. heavier penalty for all offenses. education dont do shit when everybody else on the road are idiots" ], [ "No one knows how to use roundabouts in JB (Speaking from a citizen from Kluang - we have 5 roundabouts and most of us are born to be expert in it xDD). So it actually depends on where do you from and how does the driver behaves in there." ], [ "<image>\nThis means go; yes?" ], [ "I read that annual road fatalities in Malaysia is 1,3 million. Let’s say driver education radically improves - won’t this create a population problem? Basically you will need to provide housing for additional 1 million people annually." ] ]

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[ [ "I do remember one of nyets asked how to publish a book, but I think that nyets already deleted the account. (I still keep the copy book that nyets gave me, which is the title is 'The porcelain princess & other fairytales' by Natalie Fu)\nLast time I gave the advice few years ago was, try ask nearby local library." ], [ "There was another nyet that published and sold e book. I've purchased it. Maybe you can give that a try?", "Ohh, thank u for that suggestion" ], [ "All kind of comes down to which route you wanna go? Traditional publishing or self publishing? Assuming you already have a finished manuscript.\nTrad publishing is a bit harder to get into than self, mainly because there are a lot of gates to pass through. If you're targeting international markets, you probably will have to try and pitch your manuscripts to agents, who will in turn try and sell it to publishers (i.e. Penguin, HarperCollins etc.). In this case, typically everything from the editing, to promotion, book covers etc. will be taken care of by the publisher, and I believe the agent's fees comes from your advance. Until you get picked up by a publisher, I believe you don't pay a cent.\nThen there's the middle ground, which is still sort of trad publishing. Approaching an indie publisher directly. You don't really need to engage an agent, and the publisher will still work on editing, book covers with you, but you will be expected to do some of the promo on your own through your socmed etc. Their reach won't be as good. Local publishers I feel also fall into this category, like https://fixi.com.my/. I believe you can actually engage them directly to send your manuscripts to them.\nSelf publishing is where you are responsible for the writing, editing, book cover and even promotion. This is where you put in the most money, but typically if you're consistent, your income can be decent. There are fewer barriers to entry, but since most folks typically do judge books by their cover, then paying for good artwork and even editing is almost a must. You can then upload to places like Amazon.\nStay away from vanity presses who promise you publishing for a fee. They just aim to make the money off your desire to see the book published physically (thus why they're called vaniity presses)." ] ]

[ "Food" ]

[ [ "Why hindu? Most vegan and vegetarian communities would be the best audience for cultured meat (myself included)", "Well im doing this research to study the acceptance of cultured meat in malaysia before bringing in cultured meat into the malaysian market. Since religion is a big part of malaysia i decided to study both the muslim and hindu community’s views but i already have the muslim part covered for the survey. Right now im trying to find the best way to get my survey to reach a good amount of audience and hopefully get enough data for my research. I specifically want it to be tied to religion.", "Fair enough.", "Thank u for responding!" ], [ "I don't believe we are opposed to consuming cultured meat. A lot of us do eat mock meat made of soy and stuff so I'd say cultured meat would probably be perceived similarly and accepted by the hindus.", "Thank you for responding ! Do u know any places or forums i can spread my survey once im done finalising it to get a good amount of hindu participants? Or should i post here aswell?" ] ]

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[ [ "You laugh but won't be surprised to see tech illiterate people fall for these kind of sellers.", "That's might be me... Is this cheap or expensive?", "Super expensive. Both CPU and GPU are outdated.\nThis is what you can get with RM5k today. Much better specs with the latest GPU. Not the absolute best specs (top tier PC cost a lot more than 5k) but it's good enough for the current gen of PC games.", "Oh god, this is just the desktop. Not including monitors and keyboard if you don't own those before.", "Need to add another RM500 at the very least for a decent monitor, mechanical keyboard and a mouse. A basic 24\" Samsung monitor is RM339, a Royal Kludge mech keyboard is RM130 and a Logitech \"gaming\" mouse is RM70. Add Shopee voucher and it will go down to RM500. Can always replace them later if got budget.\nAlso, it's cheaper to buy the PC parts separately than buy a custom build one like I posted above. The downside is you'll need to install everything but you can always ask someone you know to do it.", "I'm pretty sure you can do better if you don't get a prebuilt kekw\nhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/XrJwCd if 5.3k is possible then this would be way better (1TB SSD, non shit PSU, non shit RAM, non shit case and also maybe motherboard, better CPU)", "My guy that's 5k dollar 😭😭😭", "Mana harga 5k tu tgk dkt gambar 1.3k", "Tu harga monitor la sis", "Even if you are tech illiterate you can always look up for the market prices of average PCs in Lazada or Shopee or ask questions at r/pcmasterrace", "r/buildapc is the right place to go. pcmr is mostly for unfunny memes." ], [ "RM 5k for GTX1060 PC 🤣", "Even during covid this is not worth 5k, WTF!!!" ], [ "Which tech store! This is making me super angry.", "Many electronics store sell tv , fridge and sell pc as extra. They don’t even fix pc stuff and sell outdate pc with original prices haha", "SenQ", "IIRC its the SenQ store at Queensbay Penang" ], [ "5k for a GTX1060 is meme af lol" ], [ "Ah yes, since this is the last unit I give you special price. Proceeds to add 100% to the original price.", "I mean, it is a special price technically" ], [ "That's why if you don't know much about computers, bring someone who does when buying one. Unfortunately I see this more often than it should. Sellers trying to get rid of old stock but maintain the same selling price despite how old it is. RM 5,199 might be fine back when those are the current generation (I think 2020?). But in 2024 that's unacceptable.", "5199 was insane even back when the 1060 launched (around 2016?)\nin 2020 sure you can justify it because new CPU but like even then I was seeing 1060 builds go for RM3k", "Oh shit you’re right, 1060 is even older. They never could’ve sold this for 5199 at any point in time.", "same advice when buying a car. those dealers are ruthless." ], [ "looking at those specs for that price is making me cry, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GTX 1060 SUPER!!!!!" ], [ "10gen i7 with 1060.... 5K alrdy ah. shit ill sell my 1050ti for 2.5k", "insane considering we're at 14th gen now I think.", "display unit summore", "I wish this was illegal lol", "keyboard n mouse \"free\" ahahaha if they put n that monitor mayyybeee", "it's stock clearance without the stock clearance price.", "I think 14th gen will have bottleneck performance cause 12th gen have bottleneck", "where's it coming from?", "https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/1uj1cy/1/general-tasks/1920x1080/" ], [ "aside from pricing and outdated specs, \"last unit\" term is also another strategy to hook buyers. triggering the sensation where its your last chance to own it\nkalau terlepas menyesal", "Only to feel the brunt of buyer's remorse once you've purchased the unit. Emphasis on the remorse." ], [ "Some parents might think this is a good deal for a gift for their children lol" ], [ "Just like furniture stores with their \"closing down\" sale" ], [ "For a 10 rtx series and 5k plus, that is a complete scam" ], [ "Kawkaw markup. Can get rtx3060 lol", "U can build new system with 7800xt with that price tho" ], [ "SUPER SALE DISCOUNT OF RM 0.00" ], [ "I have a Trident, they can be really good deals too. Not this one of course." ], [ "Mid setup for 5k lol" ], [ "I didnt even think that 1060 super exist lmao" ], [ "I'm waiting for the how" ], [ "Too expensive. GPU old." ], [ "1060S，mined gpu I guess. Physical store does potong kepala a lot." ], [ "wtf" ], [ "where is the store? i want to know.." ], [ "i always knew the price for pc parts in msia is expensive but god DAMN. also imo building your own pc>>buying it" ], [ "Bro i got 1060 lying around in my closet, i can give it for free, if its still works tho" ], [ "This is why you survey other stores and price points with their respective specs.\nIt took me 1 week worth of research to buy myself a gaming laptop. I took screenshots of 5 products and compared every piece of their hardware and software relative to their spec, generations and actual market price fluctuations.\nIn the end I got myself a 2nd-hand msi gp63 leopard 8re for 3.1k in 2020. The original price point was 5k+. And that took another few days of research too for a checkup Check list. I was also very tech illiterate back then but have sufficient interest in them to actually look into these things." ], [ "I just look at that GPU and be like \"nahhhh\"" ], [ "Maybe the RCP is last month price, ringgit getting weaker afterall" ], [ "Lmao seriously those who have lived overseas will feel like the whole of Msia is scam. Everything is so expensive, especially electronics. At this price you can buy much much better parts from Amazon US even if it means paying shipping and duties 😂", "thats what i did when i bought my intel GPU. i saved more than rm200 than buying from lowyatt despite taxes." ], [ "Bro good luck trying to run any modern games with that GPU. Anything will be unplayable" ], [ "i got better for 1/5th the price.\n11th gen i9 with 8 cores, 32GB ram, threw in some random HDD, put it in a 1U case and started running AI with the avx_vnni." ], [ "I'm guessing the CPU contribute much to the price but goddamn RM5,199 for GTA1060?!" ], [ "Mak aii cekik darah" ], [ "Do we have a Malaysia tech subreddit so we can ask opinion and avoid getting scam?", "Just ask in the daily general discussion post, surprisingly active responses" ], [ "Covid reseller just called me. They want their prices back." ], [ "I hope that place shuts down." ], [ "Honestly as someone who is PC illiterate, I am so glad that I have friends that know more abt this than I do." ], [ "Looks like one of those prebuilt stock 'gaming' PC from an older era. They still kept their original retail price even after all these years for some stupid reason.\nNot worth it for a 1060 Super + 512Gb SSD. Even with the 'free' monitor. Im making a rough calculation here, but the value would be around RM1k for the parts, and RM1k for the CPU, RM400 for the motherboard. So RM2.4k overall, not including the monitor, mouse, keyboard, PSU and assembly. 'Free' items are usually added into the total price with a discount. Assuming thats the MSI Optix MAG 27'', the RM1.4k pricing would be discounted to 1k in the total, which is the same price at Shopee. Keyboard + mouse looks to be MSI branded, but probably not that great anyway." ], [ "1060 super...lol" ], [ "What a load of shit." ] ]