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jsvcnj0,155o7i4,,,1300,2023-07-21 14:29:02 |
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jsw6we7,155o7i4,,,660,2023-07-21 17:41:55 |
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jsvfhi0,155o7i4,,The question is if there’s further delays right before it’s set to start. If she set it way too far away already then the DOJ probably appeals and she gets overturned right away.,496,2023-07-21 14:47:32 |
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jsvfk8c,155o7i4,,,461,2023-07-21 14:48:03 |
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jsvditb,155o7i4,,he may burn through cash fast but the problem is THE COUNTRY KEEPS GIVING HIM MORE,309,2023-07-21 14:34:44 |
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jsx02cl,155o7i4,,I think it is unfortunately a certainty that there will be motions and counter-motions that will run the date until far after the election. That's why it's essential that the Democrats win the election.,267,2023-07-21 20:51:23 |
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jsvilp8,155o7i4,,,226,2023-07-21 15:07:35 |
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jsvvygi,155o7i4,,Which means they probably have the appeal drafted.,186,2023-07-21 16:32:27 |
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jsvpr7p,155o7i4,,I doubt it. The NYT article on this states that the Justice Department expected this to happen,183,2023-07-21 15:52:47 |
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jsvcbbe,155o7i4,,I do not put much stock in it coming from Cannon. There will be an unprecedented number of continuances; even if technically the trial date is set.,171,2023-07-21 14:26:47 |
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jsvxszk,155o7i4,,Yeah when cases involve National Defense Information the government has special avenues to expedite the trial,152,2023-07-21 16:44:05 |
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jsvd7g9,155o7i4,,This is the *first* delay. The next one will push it past the election.,142,2023-07-21 14:32:41 |
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jsxbunf,155o7i4,,This should be the end of every opponents ADs,127,2023-07-21 22:11:33 |
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jsvh3hf,155o7i4,,,112,2023-07-21 14:57:48 |
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jsvif4f,155o7i4,,he would pardon himself.,100,2023-07-21 15:06:23 |
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jsvmk2z,155o7i4,,,98,2023-07-21 15:32:37 |
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jswog8d,155o7i4,,[removed],91,2023-07-21 19:35:27 |
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jsvuufp,155o7i4,,,90,2023-07-21 16:25:32 |
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jsvqjnk,155o7i4,,,75,2023-07-21 15:57:52 |
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jswg7fn,155o7i4,,Good. His ass in guantanamo bay would make my day.,74,2023-07-21 18:42:18 |
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jswr1y8,155o7i4,,,73,2023-07-21 19:52:29 |
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jsvej07,155o7i4,,There are absolutely appeals that could be made if her moves are too abnormal. She knows this and isn't going to do anything too wild until later.,71,2023-07-21 14:41:16 |
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jsvvdqc,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","Ugh, I always come around to burst bubbles in these threads and get downvoted, but here I go again. An appeal would be unlikely. Typically, something like setting a trial date is administrative in nature and won’t be reversed by an appellate court absent an abuse of discretion, if such an order would be appealable at all, which I doubt. There are only a handful of interlocutory orders which can be appealed, and even fewer by the prosecution, and I can’t imagine a trial date order is one of them (I don’t have my Federal Rules in front of me). Even if was, under the aforementioned abuse of discretion standard, this would never be reversed, as the prosecution would have to show that no reasonable person would have ruled the same way. Plenty of reasonable judges without Judge Canon’s obvious faults would have ruled the same way, likely for the reasons cited by Judge Canon at the hearing, none of which had to do with the election.",69,2023-07-21 16:28:52 |
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jsvsz7c,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",the original date was not december--that was the pushed back date the DOJ was asking for,65,2023-07-21 16:13:40 |
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jsxjd07,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",[removed],59,2023-07-21 23:07:57 |
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jsvuykx,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",[removed],58,2023-07-21 16:26:16 |
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jsy8cyk,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","Even if a guilty verdict comes before the election, the defense can still appeal it. It's absolutely essential that Republicans don't win the White House.",56,2023-07-22 02:29:05 |
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jsvok1m,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",">the total collapse of sanity. |
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Have you not been paying attention to the GOP for the last decade?",55,2023-07-21 15:45:10 |
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jsw72iv,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",sounds like a tough shit for him problem,54,2023-07-21 17:43:04 |
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jsvbty4,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",I don't want to wait that long to see him blow up for the thirty-thousandth time...,51,2023-07-21 14:23:37 |
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jsvyhfb,155o7i4,,,46,2023-07-21 16:48:18 |
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jswanog,155o7i4,,Can’t pardon himself on State charges.,46,2023-07-21 18:06:56 |
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jsvek8o,155o7i4,,,45,2023-07-21 14:41:30 |
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jsvwlv2,155o7i4,,,39,2023-07-21 16:36:36 |
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jsvoj25,155o7i4,,Which makes it a terrible decision. She used simple math instead of logic when deciding.,39,2023-07-21 15:45:00 |
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jsvj4d9,155o7i4,,,37,2023-07-21 15:10:53 |
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jsvmem6,155o7i4,,,37,2023-07-21 15:31:39 |
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jsvkop2,155o7i4,,I had read *somewhere* that many of his current team required advance payments because of this.,36,2023-07-21 15:20:53 |
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jsvwxgn,155o7i4,,,34,2023-07-21 16:38:36 |
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jsw4nnx,155o7i4,,,32,2023-07-21 17:27:08 |
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jsvi3y8,155o7i4,,Give it time.,31,2023-07-21 15:04:22 |
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jsvd7ex,155o7i4,,I can't help but have a sinking feeling he's gonna get away with it *again.*,29,2023-07-21 14:32:41 |
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jsvxsn9,155o7i4,,,26,2023-07-21 16:44:01 |
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jsvgix0,155o7i4,,,26,2023-07-21 14:54:13 |
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jsw5f0w,155o7i4,,Trump also had a LOT more going for him in 2016 before most people realized what an absolute POS he is,26,2023-07-21 17:32:05 |
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jsw2zrr,155o7i4,,,26,2023-07-21 17:16:44 |
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jsvjdq1,155o7i4,,Your going into waters that would mean the total collapse of sanity. I'd think the GOP would have had someone else be their candidate forcing Trump to go 3rd party and split the vote.,25,2023-07-21 15:12:32 |
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jswtf6q,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",[removed],24,2023-07-21 20:08:00 |
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jsvh918,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",">You don't put much stock in the judge setting the date for the trial? |
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No, that would have meant she was giving special preference a second time around because who the client is \[and adopting Trump's motion verbatim, he is just another defendant\]. She has become more sophisticated after being reversed wholesale the first time around.",23,2023-07-21 14:58:48 |
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jsviux4,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","It's amazing to me how many people think that way. Between stealing classified documents, trying to steal an election and the state charges in Georgia, he's not getting way with jack shit. Reporting this morning that DA Willis in Fulton County, GA, has evidence to support racketeering charges. Michigan has just gotten started by arresting 16 people for forgery for trying to change Michigan's electoral votes. |
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I think they have a case in AZ but I don't know if they've started investigating it. |
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Yes, the next time a Republican is POTUS I'm sure they will pardon him for his federal crimes but the state charges are going to stand. He might drop dead before he's sentenced to any prison time but I firmly believe he will be held accountable. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionThis is what I told my wife recently. I wish I had less of a conscience. My family would be provided for X times over by now. |
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I hate that our society allows the worst of us to become the most powerful. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionEvery dollar spent on his doomed legal defense, is a dollar that didn't go to helping a GoP House or Senate race. |
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I'm perfectly happy to let Donald Trump be a black hole for Republican fundraising. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionIt's honestly a reasonable timeline. It's a little on the slow side, but it gives plenty of time to resolve complex litigation disputes and have those be appealed without delaying the trial. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionYep. She doesn't have to do him any huge favors to be corrupt and helpful like she was nominated to do in such an occasion, she simply has to tip the scale at the right moment. I could easily see more delays granted based on a need to review evidence and being too busy thanks to other cases, or throwing out critical evidence based on an appeal by the defense, etc",20,2023-07-21 15:19:34 |
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jsvo9ne,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","From what I have heard experts say on left leaning pods and news - because of the classified nature of the documents in questions there are significant logistical hurdles, and while a Dec 2023 is a reasonable time from the US prosecutors pov- a later trial is very reasonable in this case. |
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The blame really lies with Merrick Garland for dithering",20,2023-07-21 15:43:21 |
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jsw4dz1,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","I'm imagining a don't take checks from this man!"" photo sitting at the desk of every law firm in the country.",20,2023-07-21 17:25:25 |
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jswm0m9,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","More people voted for him in 2020 than 2016. |
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There were only 42,000 votes between a couple of states preventing him from winning again.",20,2023-07-21 19:19:33 |
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jsvk17l,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",How? He doesn't pay his lawyers. That's why no one wants to work for him.,19,2023-07-21 15:16:41 |
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jswid02,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",It's a bit like Hobbit breakfasts.,19,2023-07-21 18:55:55 |
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jsvnvl2,155o7i4,,Especially when they're so guilty they can't find a decent lawyer.,19,2023-07-21 15:40:54 |
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jsvzwxk,155o7i4,,,18,2023-07-21 16:57:10 |
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jsxp7vh,155o7i4,,I don’t think it will be over. He’ll run till he passes away. And then there’s his children,18,2023-07-21 23:52:51 |
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jsw32pq,155o7i4,,,17,2023-07-21 17:17:14 |
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jsxpo5y,155o7i4,,No. Some states have that law. If Trump can get to 270 without those states then he still has a chance. Besides those laws can be rewritten by those state legislatures. All in all no one has any idea what the hell is going g to happen if DT is the MAGA nominee.,17,2023-07-21 23:56:25 |
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jswba00,155o7i4,,He has to be present at the criminal trials.,17,2023-07-21 18:10:55 |
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jsw2or9,155o7i4,,,16,2023-07-21 17:14:47 |
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jsvj7eu,155o7i4,,,15,2023-07-21 15:11:25 |
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jsxqah7,155o7i4,,Which part comes first? Investigation or indictment? I can never remember. /s,15,2023-07-22 00:01:17 |
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jswd86o,155o7i4,,,15,2023-07-21 18:23:34 |
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jsw3kc6,155o7i4,,,15,2023-07-21 17:20:18 |
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jsxj2j6,155o7i4,,“It was a perfect waterboarding. Some say it was the best waterboarding in American history. A man came up to me crying telling me he’s never witnessed such a beautiful waterboarding before in his life”,15,2023-07-21 23:05:46 |
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jsvi7u3,155o7i4,,The Heritage Foundation is pursuing option 2.,14,2023-07-21 15:05:04 |
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jsx92wm,155o7i4,,,14,2023-07-21 21:52:00 |
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jsw8kba,155o7i4,,Don’t you remember? Last winter you kept saying “now THIS is December!”,14,2023-07-21 17:53:01 |
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jsw3rvo,155o7i4,,Happy to do it! Stay curious!,14,2023-07-21 17:21:35 |
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jsx7r4e,155o7i4,,What do you mean by she gets overturned?,13,2023-07-21 21:42:50 |
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jsxp0cu,155o7i4,,Now you're just quoting his 2016 campaign ...,12,2023-07-21 23:51:14 |
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jsvk245,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",There is zero chance. Between his secret service detail and his ego he’s going nowhere.,12,2023-07-21 15:16:51 |
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jsxr7ft,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","Imagine not wanting a criminal walking around. The nerve! |
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Until you hold your own accountable, no one is going to take you seriously.",12,2023-07-22 00:08:25 |
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jsxalv9,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",[removed],12,2023-07-21 22:02:35 |
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jsvimwp,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",">throwing cold water onto every single occurance |
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CHeck my comment history, mongoose. This is the first time I've expressed any such sentiment. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionYeah- no way he ends up in a real prison. He'll end up on house arrest in maralago. I'd be semi-ok with that if it meant the same restrictions on movement and visitors as a real prison, instead I could see being exactly as-is except he has to stay on his resort and everyone who wants to visit can. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionLiterally EVERYTHING Trump talks about is pure projection, like he did the same thing about classified documents- in 2016 he said that if anyone is caught with classified documents, they go to jail or gets the death penalty, or when he called news sources like CNN fake news while he spewed lies. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionYep. He is out of hand and needs to be muzzled. Has any of us seen anyone this combative and threatening towards those prosecuting him? Yet, we know people go to jail for that shit. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionSince when has the rightwing demanded a comprehensive platform? The entire GOP schtick sincr at least Obama's first term, if not earlier, has been culture war crap while they do absolutely nothing for their constituents and drive us further into debt than any progressive has. |
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They offer nothing but vibes, and that's enough to get them elected a lot of the time. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election>But my point is that if she set the trial date to November 9th wouldn't be special preference. |
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I understood what you meant the first time around. That is merely repeating the talking points of Trump's motion. There is a thing in the justice system called unreasonable delay. The DOJ response to the motion was abundantly clear. |
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To choose a date along the lines of Trump's motion would have been far too risky for her \[given her bias and questionable judicial excesses\] at this time of the proceedings. |
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That does not mean, like I said originally, I put much stock in it. She will extend it later by using additional rationale of newer and additional indictments that is expected to come from DC and Georgia. She will just do it incrementally.",11,2023-07-21 15:36:26 |
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jsxdv0x,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",If the democrats lose this time there will never be another democrat president. The stakes are so high.,11,2023-07-21 22:26:22 |
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jswub53,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",A lot more people voted in general in 2020 due to COVID,11,2023-07-21 20:13:49 |
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jsw3pdv,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","Being caught red handed with classified documents as a private citizen is one of the easiest things to trial. This like being caught with the gun right after you shot someone. |
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Judge Cannon is only extending to delay but couldn't fully extend due to the external pressure and criticism of her handling of other cases. |
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It should not take a year when you are caught in the middle of it. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionThere is absolutely no reason for such a delay. Makes me wonder about whatever happened to justice delayed is justice denied. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionI think regardless of the time of the trial, this is something that needs a precedent setting. The idea that there is even a question that a man in jail could be the sitting president is just ludicrous and someone needs to have the wherewithal to actually state, |
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No. That is not going to happen. Stop trying to make it a thing... |
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In the same way, there has never been such a bad faith actor in play as Donald Trump and the legislative branch needs to genuinely sit down and make decisions on what a president has the legal authority to do. |
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New laws are made because of unique situations and precedents set on how to deal with them. This is a unique situation, and someone somewhere should be considering the reality and setting up a framework for dealing with it. |
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Trump is actively weaponising political party privilege in order to avoid prosecution and that is a serious issue that if not addressed could lead to a repeat in the future unless someone puts their damn foot down... |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionI’m a lawyer, and you’re 100% right. Trial dates absolutely are not appealable. At most it can be reviewed for abuse of discretion, but I don’t think you can appeal it at all. No one in here has any clue what they’re talking about. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionThe lunatics are on their side. |
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Trump cultivated the gun-toting, mentally unsound, highly-motivated psychopaths into a political base that now controls the Republican party. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionI knew that he was funneling money from his PAC (TY for the link), but restrictions increase if he’s the presumptive nominee. Fun times ahead! |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionNot an expert, but from the sound of attorneys being interviewed on podcasts (so, huge grain of salt), Smith can appeal any kind of sufficiently eggregious decision, even if it is within a judge's usual authority, essentially citing her past behavior as grounds for intervention.",9,2023-07-22 00:18:00 |
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jsvz1h9,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","The government does not have a right to speedy trial. The defendant does. It is unusual for a complex case like this to go to trial in under a year. This appears to be quite on the rails. |
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I hope the man rots in jail, but his right to due process trumps our desire to see the trial faster. |
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Go put your pitchfork away",9,2023-07-21 16:51:47 |
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jsx2qbj,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",It is a system that encourages and rewards sociopathic behavior.,9,2023-07-21 21:08:40 |
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jsy1sse,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","If the USA somehow survives until January 2025, we need to spend the entire year impeaching, trying and booting Cannon, Thomas, Alito, and Cavanaugh. They are completely corrupt and have no business being on any bench.",8,2023-07-22 01:33:10 |
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jsvvdm9,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","I remember how people said the Judge would be reassigned if there was evidence of favoritism, but here we are",8,2023-07-21 16:28:51 |
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jsxq1vj,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","Says a lot about their party when he's still the front runner. |
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I think it's why you have the ""No Labels"" group saying they'll run a third party, and the Democrat loon RFK Jr. running .. I fully expect them to back someone like RFK Jr. If they feel they can split the Dem vote. |
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Which is why I like that 50% or run-off rule .. it helps against false candidates like that. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionDoubtful, Cannon will bend and ask Is this far enough. |
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Ask back? Ha! |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election>there will be motions and counter-motions |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionThis is probably the saddest thing I’ve ever read. We all already know all of this, but just laying it all out just really puts it in perspective. |
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A twice impeached, twice indicted former president who is hoping to return to being president is having trouble juggling all of his criminal trial dates in time for the next election. |
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Let that sink in. That doesn’t even consider the other lunacy he’s done. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionHe doesn't have to be at every court appearance, he's supposed to be a billionaire he ought to be able to pay lawyers to be in court for him. Of course no lawyers want to work for him, but that's his problem. He can also get a public defender just like anybody else.",8,2023-07-21 18:01:09 |
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jswsqqj,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","This is also not a complicated charge. Theres a ton of classified evidence, but thats not going to be directly examined by the jury. |
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The law is clear, his intent is clear.",8,2023-07-21 20:03:32 |
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jsvxjak,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","No, the blame is the judge is taking the Trump legal teams arguments at face value. They can get the security clearances in time. The judge is trying to appear 'impartial' so she split the difference of the request when the request itself was ridiculous. |
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The MO of Trumps legal woes has been delay delay delay delay and the system keeps letting it happen.",8,2023-07-21 16:42:24 |
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jswsyh8,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","He can be elected from 'prison'*. The people can still decide. |
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*aka house arrest at a golf resort",8,2023-07-21 20:04:57 |
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jsvt74f,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",">Let's say the trial wasn't Trump and the Judge wasn't Cannon. |
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This is not a case of hypotheticals; it is about a judge and a client with a history. One of the primary reasons she was reversed last time was because Cannon gave Trump special status as a former president. Court reversed, saying all are same under the law. |
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Where there is good cause continuances can be granted \[they, however, do not go on indefinitely or justify unreasonable delay.\] Initial request to continue beyond any election cannot be construed as reasonable or necessary. She selected a mid-point. Giving the impression of evaluating both sides. She had no other choice. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionThat's just not how any of this works. There was a long series of events, all of which are important to demonstrating intent and pattern of behavior. Proving the intent element of these crimes is incredibly nuanced and complex, and in this case while there is a large pile of overwhelming evidence, its still an insane large pile. Its nothing like a murder case - that is a terrible analogy. |
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Judge Cannon is a POS, lm with you on that. But she clearly pulled her punches on this one. She 100% could have punted it out a much later date - like what the trump team was asking for. |
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As it is, if the case actually goes to trial on the date that is scheduled, it will devastating for trump and the republican party coming into the summer conventions. |
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If anything, the timing on this is only good for republicans so that if he does get convicted they have time before the convention to scramble to get a new candidate.",8,2023-07-21 17:38:46 |
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jsvka4k,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","Who has done everything in her power to improve Trump’s chances, including trying to get the case moved to a far more right-leaning county to find a more supportive jury pool",7,2023-07-21 15:18:18 |
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jsw9y7u,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","I don’t think so. The seven-page decision wasn’t crazy or anything like that. The reasoning made sense and, importantly, won’t be available to the defense in May. I think the schedule has pretrial motions due in December, so that gives plenty of time for the motions to be submitted and ruled on.",7,2023-07-21 18:02:13 |
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jsxo4cq,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","So, if Trump wins the Republican nomination and then becomes disqualified... Biden wins by default?",7,2023-07-21 23:44:24 |
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jsvql03,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","If he is in fact convicted, sentenced, and those are upheld on appeal, and he’s not dead yet, and actually has to report to jail, yes that will happen.",7,2023-07-21 15:58:07 |
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jswh176,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","That’s the problem, it’s not. He’ll be able to constantly tell his supporters that it’s a witch-hunt, and the government is actively trying to hinder his ability to campaign. |
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And from what I’ve seen, most of his supporters believe the government has been trying to illegally fuck him over ever since he was impeached. This will just rule them up into a bigger frenzy.",7,2023-07-21 18:47:31 |
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jsw1q4x,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","You are demonstrating that you don't know what youre talking about. |
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A violent crime is relatively easy to take to trial. You have eye witness or a few forensic experts, an investigator. |
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A case like this probably has tens of thousands of pages of discovery that the defense is going to have to review and evacuate for a defense strategy. This is complex litigation. And if you think otherwise, that just speaks to your lack of experience. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionIn a sane country like say I dunno, Canada, I might not have to remind you he also hired and replaced official state electors with his own to disseminate forgeries of a national electoral ballot :( |
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https://www.npr.org/2022/06/21/1106448660/trump-campaign-fake-electors-says-rep-adam-schiff |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election>He won't win an election. |
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I'm having 2015/16 deja vu. After the last decade, it really wouldn't surprise me if he gets in again.",6,2023-07-21 19:43:58 |
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jsviv5d,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",Nicely put.,6,2023-07-21 15:09:16 |
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jsxgvfc,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","Agreed. There’s also the fact that the American people have the right to a speedy trial. As you said this is about national security, and I don’t see jack smith just twiddling his thumbs for another 10 months on this case (I know he is involved in others.) |
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To me, the May 2024 trial date seems way worse for trump. Dealing with trial while trying to lose, I mean, win an election, and being on the campaign trail, doesn’t seem great for him. We already know he can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.",6,2023-07-21 22:49:12 |
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jsxu565,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","And if that happens, she's not getting overturned. I also would still like to hear about how often trial date decisions have been overturned because it really doesn't happen unless it's a speedy trial issue |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionThey have known it was coming. |
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Its a very simple case. |
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It should have started in 30 days. |
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The “judge”, who wears a maga hat, it trying to set it up so he can be elected and pardon himself. |
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She should have recused herself. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionWhat happened to a speedy trial.....for us? Like we won't already be inundated with all the political crap on tv(ads), and them all speaking. Now we have to wait a year, having to hear even more crap from him whining. Ahhhh, delightful.",5,2023-07-21 20:11:09 |
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jsxculn,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",She has no control over DC or Georgia which would be before.,5,2023-07-21 22:18:54 |
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jsxw6o1,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",Get her removed already. Fuck. This shouldn't even go past October this year. Fucking horseshit.,5,2023-07-22 00:47:31 |
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jsy11ey,155o7i4,,,5,2023-07-22 01:26:50 |
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jsxn0pa,155o7i4,,I have so little faith in the citizens of the United States that I truly believe that Donald Trump will win the presidency while he is currently Behind Bars.,5,2023-07-21 23:35:59 |
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jsx954n,155o7i4,,,5,2023-07-21 21:52:24 |
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jsw9w3m,155o7i4,, |
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,5,2023-07-21 18:01:50 |
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jswhqsl,155o7i4,,Thank you for posting.,5,2023-07-21 18:52:02 |
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jsy50z3,155o7i4,,,5,2023-07-22 02:00:00 |
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jsx49bg,155o7i4,,On the other hand it’s more of a burden on the taxpayers who don’t do this as those people are going to retire in absolute poverty the way they throw money at him.,5,2023-07-21 21:18:56 |
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jsw6zjh,155o7i4,,,5,2023-07-21 17:42:30 |
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jsvj1bg,155o7i4,,Hahaha love the mongoose remark,5,2023-07-21 15:10:21 |
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jsxnlw2,155o7i4,,,5,2023-07-21 23:40:28 |
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jsxigqq,155o7i4,,Yeah people are acting like 2020 was a resounding defeat for trump when it wasn’t,5,2023-07-21 23:01:08 |
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jsvxr66,155o7i4,,Kind of hard when you don't pay them,5,2023-07-21 16:43:46 |
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jswdstd,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",I mean Trump tried during his term. Bogus Biden investigations. Withholding Ukraine aid until they dig up imaginary dirt. He was impeached for it.,5,2023-07-21 18:27:11 |
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jsxcho9,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","Have the trial, put the orange man, in an orange suit and lock his treacherous ass away if he's found guilty. It's not fucking hard. Treat him the same as anyone else. Or harsher, you know since he swore to protect the fucking constitution he wiped his ass with.",4,2023-07-21 22:16:16 |
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jswblfj,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","Both liberals and conservatives pissed about this. Conservatives mad because Trump will have secured the nomination by May 2024 and his prosecution makes him a very weak general election candidate. Liberals mad because they believe Cannon will delay this trial beyond May. |
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I don’t think the May ruling is totally crazy and Trump’s charges have me less cynical about the justice system. I’m cautiously optimistic that this goes in May.",4,2023-07-21 18:13:01 |
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jsxwk9c,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",This should have been this year to start.,4,2023-07-22 00:50:32 |
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jsxw706,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election",Get her removed already. Fuck. This shouldn't even go past October this year. Fucking horseshit.,4,2023-07-22 00:47:36 |
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jsvqoqu,155o7i4,,Trump will do everything to delay it,4,2023-07-21 15:58:48 |
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jsy6ak2,155o7i4,,It's the federal court system it takes forever for nearly everything,4,2023-07-22 02:10:55 |
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jsy4ftw,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","That requires a 2/3 majority in the house and Senate... |
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But, I'm quite surprised that we haven't yet heard about any assassination attempts on right wing SC members or Trump. Not saying it's good just ... They pissed so many people off, there are bound to be some unstable enough to try it and own a gun. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionMore importantly, trial dates aren’t appealable. DOJ legally cannot appeal this even if it wanted to. People truly have no idea what they’re talking about. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionFrom what I can see scheduling generally favors the defendant. The median number of days to disposition for a jury trial is close to 400 days, with around 3 continuences. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionDoes the prosecution have the right to a speedy trial? I'd need a citation to be convinced of that. |
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It's certainly not in the 6th amendment, which only applies to the accused |
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> the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election[Eugene V. Debs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs) was in an Atlanta penitentiary, serving a ten-year sentence, when he lost the 1920 presidential election. |
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Inmate (if it happens) Trump would have more constitutional right to run for President than Arnold Schwarzenegger (due to lack of natural born citizenship). |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionI can see that!, My point is that Smith could appeal and likely prevail, given the history of Cannon. It isn't that trUmp lawyers haven't had enough time to be ready, to get security clearance, to try to stifle their client's self destructive tendencys. An obvious attempt to outlive a criminal indictment isn't a new defence strategy. This client has never done anything but attempt to evade justice. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionGod forbid if he were to win, would his Vice Presidential nominee be able to pardon him? |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionWill Trump seek to delay it by a few more months. |
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*shakes 🎱* |
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“Without a doubt.” |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionI'm waiting for him to say ""There's a good change i may have committed some light treason. |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionShe actually seems to have taken the admonishment she got at the circuit level to heart, and hasn't displayed any blatant favortism towards that orange loser turd. Yet.",3,2023-07-21 14:51:54 |
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jswt7mn,155o7i4,"Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before election","nah you see public office elections by the general population are clearly defined as a replacement for a jury trial, it says so right here in... Oh wait you're right thats completely fucking insane, my mistake |
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Judge sets Trump classified documents trial for May 2024, months before electionNo fucking way the military or intelligence community lets that happen. If he tried to flee, his plane would disappear. He knows too much. |
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