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2024, a worldwide election year

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Title: 2024, a worldwide election year Body: Top Comments: Well at least we know who’s gonna win in nk. EU elections should have their own color. And Belarus Exactly. The colour could make you assume a lot of countries have a national election when it's really just the EU election and maybe some regional ones. and Russia There is no elections in Ukraine And Hungary And Russia And Syria Yep, you can’t conduct elections when significant part of your territory is under occupation, significant part is active war zone and a lot of your people are running from the war. Israel isn't even having elections this year, besides they're pretty democratic As a Russian I can say our elections (if you can even call them that) are so embarrassing. Well the last UK election was actually pre-COVID (2019), May and then Sunak got the job after their predecessor’s resignation, which doesn’t usually trigger an election automatically. $20 says Kim Jong Un wins his To be fair, I'm pretty sure Israel, the UK, and France have elections like every 15 minutes. We have absolutely no idea who's going to win in America and Modi did far worse than expected Romania has every possible election this year btw. Local, EU, parliament and presidential. Worst thing possible. They are spending like there is no tomorrow and employing people in newly created state positions (usual way to bribe and buy electorate or reward backers). We are going bankrupt if this keeps up 💀 >isn't even having elections this year, Miraculously, considering they had five between 2019-22; how did Bibi cockroach himself back as a result into power I will never understand It's a *deeply* flawed/incomplete democracy. Hungary has become way less democratic under Fidesz. Tunisian elections are democratic but the current president is so popular that they are basically just a a formality

2024-07-26 02:17:46

Election 2024: Kamala Harris campaign to launch Florida ground game this weekend

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Title: Election 2024: Kamala Harris campaign to launch Florida ground game this weekend Body: Top Comments: Recreational Marijuana and Abortion Is Florida in play? Don't they have referendum too that could influence voter turnout? Jesus. It is in play. Definitely in play and just an anecdote, but I know a lot of conservatives in FL that aren’t happy with the republicans controlling the state right now. Facing a huge crisis with homeowners insurance and the fl government is too busy demonizing kids and marijuana that could bring money into the state and help with our issues. They just need to focus on specific places really. Jville I4 corridor Tampa/Pinellas/Pasco/Orange/Osceola SoFla Broward/Dade/Palm Beach The rest of the state is a waste. Florida is not deep red like people think, its pink. Id say it’s in play now, considering whats on the ballot, FL dems wanted new life, and the fact that people have been turning against the GOP/Ron hard and fast. If a major storm hits this year, its going to be hell for them, because it just means everything is about to get even more expensive and people know the republicans are not going to fix it. Everytime Ron Ron proposes “anti-woke” crap, the response is “fix my insurance!” It wasnt that way in 2020, but it is now. but do not make the mistake of prioritizing FL over AZ, PA, MI, GA. Florida is tired of its governor, leadership, and draconian legislation that has passed relentlessly in the last couple years. ADD: **UNAFFORDABLE** high cost of living with housing costs, insurance rates, and property taxes Public education being torn apart with constant hate/ignorance laws and looted for funds (with a HUGE teacher shortage on top of it) The conveyor belt of Victorian diseases that appear every month And more! It's an expensive, dirty toilet of ignorance and greed. Yeah I’m also in FL and it’s too bad DeSantis isn’t on the ballot because I think he would lose in this environment because of the homeowners and car insurance issues right now. I know he can’t run again but I think if we had a Gov election this year the Republicans might lose. I live in Polk county which is one of the largest counties in Florida. They are so fucking backwards here I can't even bring the Harris name up without them destroying me. So what me and my Cuban wife are going to do. Is just vote blue all the way down the ticket! "Go Harris". You have brought hope back to this beautiful country. One upside is that without DeSantis on the ballot, some Floridians might use the presidential vote as a proxy to voice their unhappiness with Republicans. Major places in Florida want something better, I hope this flips blue. Homeowners insurance crisis is ridiculous and the governor hasn’t done shit to even try to help it as far as I’ve seen. I hope Florida is in play. I saw a graphic before that showed a large swath of her fundraising in the first two days coming from there During the 2020 election I lived in Georgia and felt the same way. My wife and I just quietly voted blue all the way down and as luck and history would have it, we got both senate seats and flipped the state so narrowly Trump criminalized himself trying to overturn our collective will as voters. Here's hoping our neighbors to the south in Florida like you and your wife can deliver a similar humiliation this election 😁 I wish the Harris campaign would work to dispel the "but he's a good businessman" myth. If he had put his daddy's money in an index fund he would be worth 10x what he is now...talk about it. They don't need to win Florida, they need to give the impression the state is in play without actually wasting resources doing so. Then let T/V waste resources here. It's an expensive state to campaign in. Even though it's anecdotal, it's nice to hear this. Desantis has done nothing for us and just wastes his time w culture war red meat for his base. Meanwhile most Florida's are struggling to afford everything while we're dying of heatstroke. Ohio put both of those on a special election and won handily. Bringing these in for a presidential election is pretty spicy. Recreational marijuana and abortion both won decisively in Ohio (some call it North Florida) last year. That's not true, he did go after Disney World for some dumb reason Edit: wrong Disney theme park

2024-07-27 11:42:25

2024 Russian election

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Title: 2024 Russian election Body: Top Comments: It’s a close one this year  Slutsky 2018 Putin got only 77% 2012, he got 64% He even only got 53% in 2000. This year's election was the most one-sided one the country saw since founding. "election" Remember, when Putin closes a door, he opens a window You got the 80-90 percent people like Putin, Mussolini went for 99.7% or so and I think Saddam once straight up went for 101%. I always wonder how dictators decide what percentage they give themselves. I wonder if they have a meeting to discuss that. my president better be a slutsky I don't think the black color is dramatic enough. You should've also edited in some skulls over the regions with the highest vote for VVP. 😄 FI Selection Or because he controls the results There were no presidential elections in Russia prior 1991. In 1990 there were presidential elections in the USSR, but Mikhail Gorbachev was the only candidate. During soviet times there were elections to different local and union councils, but candidates were preselected by the communist party, ballots often included only one candidate. And in the Imperial Russia in 1906 there were elections to Duma, the legislative branch of power, as a result of the 1905 revolution, but Tsar Nicolas II dismantled Duma in less then three months. Russia was the last absolutist monarchy in Europe, surpassing even Ottomans. Russians are deeply paternalistic nation that didn't experience culture of democracy, in 1990s they didn't managed to develop civil society and democratic institutions ready to take responsibility over the country. Their voters were swayed by populists who promised strongmen, who would assume all their responsibilities. Putin likely isn’t actually selecting the number itself, but between his legitimately quite massive popularity as well as the sheer institutional weight of the Russian state behind him, it’s quite hard for him *not* to win by massive margins. Like the elections and most of the votes are probably legitimate but they are very far from fair, which is an important distinction comparing him to people like Mussolini and saddam. They SHOULD have voted for.....SLUTSKY!!! He is associated with United Russia but is officially independent. Totally legit.  Gotta say it's weird how everyone keeps falling off balconies but viva putan Since 1991 or in all of Russian History? I mean, voting for who you want isn't illegal here. It's just that, firstly, there is not a single candidate who doesn't eat orphans for breakfast, and secondly, it wouldn't matter even if you did vote for putin, as they'll just draw the same result regardless. Just try to become his political rival and find out He is, he's with "United Russia". He ran as independent this time. The whole thing was about how people "beg" him to run again. To be registered as a candidate when you aren't with a major party you need to gather 100k signs on your petition (with signers' full passport info, home addresses and phone numbers). The booths for his petition were dead empty btw, unlike Nadezhdin's booths, which had crazy hours long lines. Nadezhdin ended up gathering 150k, Putin gathered over 1M. Classic Russian elections Edit: Nadezhdin was disqualified on technicality btw It’s more of not letting any at least somewhat popular opponents to participate. I’m going to be honest out of them 3 I only have heard of Slutsky because he was accused in some harassment towards his female colleagues. I know there’re a lot of fake votes being used, but I feel like it’s used more so people won’t see how low the participation rates were. Even without them fake votes Putin would have won by a large margin (which is not surprising since, as I said, he was pretty much the only candidate majority of the electorate knew)

2024-07-28 20:48:51

FWI: Donald Trump is sentenced September 18, 2024, preceding election night.

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Title: FWI: Donald Trump is sentenced September 18, 2024, preceding election night. Body: His sentencing date was postponed to September 18, which is just over a month away at this point. If you are out of the loop, Donald J. Trump, GOP presidential nominee for the 2024 general election, was found guilty on 34 felony counts of falsified business records, or fraud. To continue my FWI, what does the GOP fall to if he is sentenced to serve time? Do we think the supreme court cronies he installed would have any say in it, or would they potentially move it back to a point after election night? What is the likelihood of time being sentenced? I feel like this very major point in this election is being overlooked, and not nearly enough people are talking about it. Could this be the last chance to take down this danger to democracy? He has now stated several times that “Christians won’t have to vote again in 4 years if I win”. Curious to hear everyone else’s s input. Top Comments: >To continue my FWI, what does the GOP fall to if he is sentenced to serve time? Do we think the supreme court cronies he installed would have any say in it, or would they potentially move it back to a point after election night? What is the likelihood of time being sentenced? For starters, Trump will not be sentenced to jail. This is his first felony conviction for a non-violent crime. At worst he will get some fines and probation. I would be shocked if he got sentenced to jail time. And even if he did, he would appeal the ruling and stay his jail sentence until after the election, so it would be moot. If Trump wins, I think (based on practicality) SCOTUS will agree he cannot be held in jail as the executive of the country, and he must be freed to serve the function of the POTUS. His jail sentence would be delayed until after he is out of office. He could absolutely serve jail time. Considering Michael cohen served for the same set of crimes but with fewer and less severe felonies, I would actually expect him to be sentenced to jail….if he wasn’t a former president and current candidate. >He could absolutely serve jail time. Yes he could. But .. >if he wasn’t a former president and current candidate. Is largely my point. I find it really hard to believe a judge is going to order jail for a current Presidential candidate for a major party a month away from the election. I hear you but just as one of the two main political parties in the country maybe don't run a felon as your candidate? These convictions are actually the least damning ones that can be brought down on him so far. Republicans knew the amount of evidence against him/them and still ran him without even flinching. >I find it really hard to believe a judge is going to order jail for a current Presidential candidate for a major party a month away from the election. To add to this, *IF* he was sentenced to jail, **A LOT** of people would view this as a political move by the Dems to eliminate the competition in the election. This is frustrating, as it makes candidacy a literal "get out of jail free" card. Justice should be blind. People usually avoid prison time by making a deal with prosecutors. Something trump did not do. Along with having contempt of the court's orders multiple times. I hope he does get a sentence. It won’t result in incarceration for Trump, specifically. Any other red blood American would be looking at a steep prison sentence. Given what else has already occurred, this seems very insignificant. I also don't think he will get jail time, given the nature of the offence and lack of previous. I would normally say it would completely finish an average Politician's career. In Trump's case, it would normally fire up his base even more, but I honestly don't think it's going to sway anyone either way at this point. Most of this can't come into play in sentencing. What can come into play is his repeated violations of the gag order. First felony or not, that would give the judge grounds for a harsher sentence. That said, he is absolutely going to appeal the sentencing, no matter what judgment is handed down He’ll appeal and be out of jail during appeal process. It’s normal procedure. However, due to the recent immunity ruling it’s more likely that sentencing will be delayed further or the verdict be set aside. Trump is more than likely to win an appeal on the original verdict. I wouldn't be shocked or even bothered if they give him a prison sentence. The brazen nature of the crimes, his complete lack of remorse and continued attacks on the judicial system, his long track record of criminal and lawless behavior and speech, even absent convictions until now. He's not going to be treated as a babe in the woods. Bjt hey if we're apparently OK with felons being president now, should we rebook at the laws that prevent convicted persons from being able to vote then? *edit--- I realized my phone actually autochanged a word and I didn't catch it. I am actually 100% for letting released/reconciliatiated persons be allowed to vote again. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in that we currently don't allow released felons to vote. Trump has not even served time yet so we can't even deem him as "reconciliated"...and yet he's running for office. Yeah, of I were that judge I'm not sure all of that would factor in "Danger to democracy". LMFAO, coming from a supporter of a party that had no primary, basically just giving you Biden again, then forcing him out and installing that shitshow Harris who got no votes and your party is telling you that's who your presidential candidate is. Jesus Christ, most of you are complete morons. People who don't make a deal generally believe they are innocent. Making a deal usually means admitting guilt. More for the contempt he shows for the judge than the severity of the charges. He committed numerous crimes. This is a fact. Committing crimes means paying for them. Why is this so difficult to comprehend? Yes. It creates a mechanism for disenfranchisement that can be and is frequently weaponized by the state. Tired of hearing people say that Democrats are behind his legal problems. Wake up people, he is the person that did all of the things he is convicted of no Democrats made him Rape women, defraud people and all of the shit he's done, he done it. LOCK HIS ASS THE FUCK UP.

2024-07-29 12:08:06

Who would YOU vote for? 2024 United States presidential election. (fixed)

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Title: Who would YOU vote for? 2024 United States presidential election. (fixed) Body: Top Comments: “VERMIN SUPREME WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS… AND REPLACE THEM WITH BETTER ONES.” ”I AM ORDERING THE INTERDIMENSIONAL **SPACE HORSE COMMAND** TO ATTACK MIDDLE-EARTH!” \-48th president Vermin Love Supreme I would vote Vermin Are Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman running as National Socialists??? National Scientology I guess? Vermin Supreme on nuclear weapons: [disarmament through deployment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U74VUsw17_8) he's got my vote Brush your teeth! It’s the law! National Scientology Vermin wouldn't run under libertarian. He'd run in his own party. But outta these picks I'm taking vermin Amy poehler as republican running mate is the most nonsensical thing about this election 😂 Implying Bernie wouldn't pick AOC. Probably Chris Pratt and just hope he is the real life version of his Parks and Rec character, because at least then nothing would be done good or bad and it would all be hilarious. Bernie Sanders Don't act surprised, Tom Cruise already did a documentary where he was a National Socialist, it's called Valkyrie. Jokes and silly games aside, he's the only legit option who can navigate America's geopolitical, economic, social, and healthcare issues out of all the candidates. I guess Vermin comes second. None of them come close to Bernie Sanders in politics, economics, geopolitics and other problems that a nation must solve. He's the best shot for universal healthcare and progressive tax system which actually makes the absurdly rich people pay their fair share of tax. I think you called me a liar on TV? https://preview.redd.it/gr6binorpkfd1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09a0b7093b50e95371ac276484a7d75af20a2abc Not *unrealistic*, but all things considered... To be fair, he was a traitor to them in that one fun fact: the real Stauffenberg was a traitor to the leadership, but not to the ideology. He was quite okay with nazis, but he disliked inefficient leadership/dictatorship and thought an expansionist war was a stupid idea. he did, however, share several nazi sentiments about socialists, jews, blacks and queers. He would run with the vermin party Didn’t he run as a libertarian in 2020? Might be wrong I’m only 16 but I’m going to get a fake ID so I can still vote for him

2024-07-30 01:36:46

Maya Rudolph To Play Kamala Harris On ‘Saturday Night Live’ Through 2024 Presidential Election

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Title: Maya Rudolph To Play Kamala Harris On ‘Saturday Night Live’ Through 2024 Presidential Election Body: Top Comments: That little girl was me! Her saying "Mom-ala" is how I learned to pronounce Kamala correctly. was this ever in doubt? im glad, Maya and JAJ means that we finally have great players for both candidates. Feels like its been literal decades since thats happened "That cornpop in your story? That little cornpop was me." Hope she plays Kamala with a little touch of Beyoncé. This was one of the conditions to Biden stepping down She’s raising 4 kids in LA while her husband is out working on a massive production, she might not necessarily want to fly to NY every weekend to film a skit. This is confirmation that she’s gonna make it work. Impressive stuff from her! "Vice President Harris, your stance on stacking the Supreme Court?" "... I'm going to ignore that exact question, and instead tell you the story of when Joe picked me to be his running mate. We were at dinner, he got down on one knee, and that's when I realized... he needed help up." [deleted] Look I get the people lamenting that the current cast didn't get a shot but the fact is no one on the show now is better suited than Maya for this role. At least Maya was actually once a cast member, unlike Baldwin or Jim Carrey. Not Maya’s fault that she was hired in 2000 and her most iconic impression would not be needed for 20 years. Same with Tina Fey and Palin I hope that they get Shane Gillis to play Trump. His Trump impression is incredible and Baldwin's was never that great. The Beyoncé she used to do for those “the prince show” sketches is still my fav bit of hers And just in time for Alec Baldwin to be cleared of all charges and available for guest starring. Last time Maya and Jim Carrey signed 6-episode contracts and relocated for the duration. Maya ended up sticking around even longer, until the Christmas break, then came back to host months later. She was basically a cast member that season. Mama needs a GIF. James Austin Johnson has a great trump, he was basically brought in for the impression. Oh yeah? Well I’m doesn’t I'm just excited to see who gets stuck playing Vance. Just needed some Commalas.

2024-07-31 14:42:17

Maya Rudolph To Play Kamala Harris On ‘Saturday Night Live’ Through 2024 Presidential Election

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Title: Maya Rudolph To Play Kamala Harris On ‘Saturday Night Live’ Through 2024 Presidential Election Body: Top Comments: If Kamala wins, they need to hire someone new to play her like when they hired James Austin Johnson. Glad I got to see Madame President at the Vampire Weekend show this weekend!!! JAJ could probably do a decent Harris This was a bit of a no-brainer. Maya absolutely destroys when she’s back on the show. Her “I’m Your Mother” monologue was an all-time great and her Beyonce on the Hot Wings parody had me literally crying laughing. She’s going to kill it. Kamala/Buttigieg 2024! #whitedudeslikecolinjostforharris Maya is amazing as Kamala, but it’s continually frustrating to see celebrities/former cast members being brought in for the “big” roles. There is a huge, talented cast that should be utilized, regardless of the celebrity being parodied. Damn, so Lorne pushed back production on an entire TV series (Loot) just so he could have Maya for election season. Fred armisen JAJ is playing Trump this time, so we're already ahead of the 2020 season. And I doubt either VP will be stunt cast this time. Vance will probably be Bowen, and TBD White Man will probably be Mikey (or maybe Molly if he's bald). This business decision fucked over hundreds of crew members who were working on Season 3 of her show Loot. We were suddenly told on a Friday that work had been disbanded to be resumed at a later date, which looks to be January 2O25 now. Many of us have been out of work for 15 months to 2 years because of strikes and industry cutbacks. It’s really a horrible thing to do to promise a job and give crew start dates for filming and then rip it away. I won’t be watching. That honestly seems like a no brainer decision. Maya plays Kamala Harris, and every week there’s a new clip of her circling the internet for most of the week from the last SNL. Think of how often we saw Baldwin and his Trump impression. Molly would be an amazing Vance. And OH MY GOD would it piss them off so much. Bowen as the couch would be a GREAT Weekend Update guest! I could see Marcello or Longfellow playing Vance. I want Bowen available to play the couch 😂 Same ! With the SNL closing theme music as well! lol plenty of people complain if you spend some time on this sub  Love this for Maya I mean they’re both women of color but Ego looks absolutely nothing like Kamala imo. It would come off kind of tone deaf lol Interesting that you don't think Molly would be Vance. We made the same assumptions in 2016. VOTE! I'm pretty sure Loot is produced by Lorne's Broadway Video company, too, so he and Maya both had a say here.

2024-07-31 14:42:33

Harris Energizes Gen Z Voters Who Planned to Sit Out 2024 Election

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Title: Harris Energizes Gen Z Voters Who Planned to Sit Out 2024 Election Body: Top Comments: >“The energy has completely shifted,” said Antonio Arellano, 33, vice president of communications at NextGen America. “**We haven’t seen this energy since President Barack Obama’s 2008 candidacy**.” Yep, this is PRECISELY what the summer of 2008 felt like. As the kids would say, "immaculate vibes." Pulling for Gen Z to show up! Go team Gen Z. It's better.  Obama emerged from a bitter primary battle with Clinton.  There were hard feelings.  Nobody is mad now.  It's cool. Be the change you wish to see in the world Gen Z. That saying has never been more applicable. Your futures (like the rest of ours) are literally at stake. I can say first-hand that this is an accurate take. >After supporting Biden in 2020, Elgart said the president had lost his vote over his handling of the war in Gaza. It's great this person has decided to vote in the upcoming election instead of sitting out, but this type of logic for sitting out makes no sense to me. You're going to stay home instead of voting because of this one situation you aren't happy with Biden's actions on. By doing so you increase the chances of the other guy getting elected, who would handle that situation worse, and by the way that other guy has stated that after this next election no one will need to vote if he gets into office. I just can't follow the logic. No candidate will ever be perfect. You vote for the one who is ticks the most boxes for you and then in primaries you vote for the candidates who tick even more boxes in hopes that you get more of what you're looking for. This all or nothing tuff drives me crazy. "Yes let's not vote until we get the perfect candidate and lead ourselves into a dictatorship" ??? [removed] It's true. That entire primary with Michigan being disqualified by the party for breaking scheduling rules was wild. I lived in Michigan at that time and went out in the snow to vote for "uncommitted" because Obama wouldn't appear on the ballot if the state broke the rules. Then Clinton ended up with Michigan's delegates and it just got so damn messy. I was glad it worked out and Clinton was a great Secretary of State, but you're right -- it was tense from like April through July 2008. > Be the change you wish to see in the world Gen Z. Be nice if us older folks actually gave them credit instead of constantly feeding into the "Yutes don't show up, curse those yutes!" propaganda that allows campaigns to marginalize or ignore issues that are important to them... > [Half of Youth Voted in 2020, An 11-Point Increase from 2016](https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/half-youth-voted-2020-11-point-increase-2016) And again, > [Gen Z Voted at a Higher Rate in 2022 than Previous Generations in their First Midterm Election](https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/gen-z-voted-higher-rate-2022-previous-generations-their-first-midterm-election) Amazing how fast everyone who was arguing Biden should stay in got over it. And the credit for that really belongs to how graciously Joe Biden handled this. I'm sure he's not happy to step aside, but he's doing all the right things to unify people behind Kamala rather than being bitter. Yep. That was me. I had some personal reasons and I legitimately thought it would be better strategically. But I was dead wrong, and it was glaringly obvious in less than 48 hours. I couldn’t be happier about it. And I can just get over the personal crap. Same, I work with some of them. They think Trump's an idiot but also didn't see any reason to go vote for Biden. I've already convinced some go to early vote with me. Gen Z! From a millennial. We need you to help us save the country. Show them how pissed off you are about what has been taken from us. Let’s show them we are the generations that think about the future for us and others. I was definitely feeling doom and gloom before all these changes. We need Gen Z vote more than ever. The way I see it is that I need to do as much as I can to make sure my daughter has the rights and freedoms that she deserves. How else could I call myself a father! I’m also thinking of everyone else that’s come after me. The same way my dad did. What's funny is I was against him dropping out because I was afraid it was going to hamstring chances in November. Known vs unknown and all that. However, I am fully on board with this switch. The energy, the sassy campaign, the memes, it's fantastic. The people that couldn't tell the difference between Biden and Trump. Smh.  [removed] No, because Obama - for all of his credits - naively thought that the Republicans would work with him from 2009-2011, and they absolutely would not. President Harris (Xenu willing) will make no such mistake, and the midterms should be about expanding on her agenda rather than kowtowing to a bunch of weird lunatics in the name of bipartisanship. Remember: request your mail-in ballot early if it'll help you vote. *From Bloomberg News reporters Akayla Gardner and Jarrell Dillard:* Cameron Elgart, a 23-year-old musician who lives in Idaho, was dismayed at the prospect of another presidential race pitting Joe Biden against Donald Trump. He planned to sit out November’s election. After supporting Biden in 2020, Elgart said the president had lost his vote over his handling of the war in Gaza. Now that Vice President Kamala Harris is running in Biden’s place, he’s changed his mind about staying on the sidelines. “There’s so much more that I like about Kamala,” said Elgart, noting the Democratic candidate’s background as a prosecutor and her youth, at age 59, compared with Biden, who is 81. “She’s just a more suited candidate for young people.” More than half of swing-state voters age 18 to 34 said they are more likely to take part in the November election now that Biden has left the race, the latest Bloomberg News/Morning Consult [poll](https://pro-assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2024/07/Bloomberg-Swing-State-Wave-10.pdf) found. Some 38% said his exit made them much more likely to cast a ballot, while 16% said it made them somewhat more likely to vote. Only 3% of respondents in that age group said that Biden’s move made them much less likely to participate. The under-30 demographic has broken for Democrats for [decades](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-14/us-republicans-face-widening-gap-with-young-voters-data-show) and Generation Z — loosely defined as those born between the late 1990s and early 2010s — helped propel the party to victory in 2020 and in the 2022 midterms. Yet Democratic leaders were worried Biden’s unpopularity would diminish youth turnout and tip the race to Trump, the Republican nominee for the third consecutive presidential election. Since announcing her candidacy, Harris has shown strength in areas where Biden looked weak, making up ground in several polls, including in battleground states that could decide the election, and drawing a torrent of campaign funds. Online, the campaign’s social-media accounts have rapidly accumulated followers and viral memes have refreshed Harris’ image with young voters who had known her as Biden’s understudy. The Harris campaign’s TikTok account — previously Biden’s — has seen its follower count jump from 440,000 to more than 2.7 million since Biden dropped out. Harris also launched her own [personal](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-25/vice-president-kamala-harris-joins-tiktok-following-meme-surge) account, which has garnered roughly 3.6 million followers. “She is all over TikTok,” said Zoe Sather, a 19-year-old who lives in Arizona and plans to vote for Harris. “That’s one resource that all young people use.” [You can read the full story here](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-07-31/kamala-harris-uses-tiktok-to-pull-in-gen-z-voters-after-biden-s-exit), and check out our [exclusive swing-state poll](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-07-30/kamala-harris-erases-trump-s-swing-state-lead-in-2024-election-poll) on the presidential candidates in the race for Election 2024.

2024-07-31 15:46:01

How an Elon Musk PAC is using voter data to help Trump beat Harris in 2024 election

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Title: How an Elon Musk PAC is using voter data to help Trump beat Harris in 2024 election Body: Top Comments: >The website says it will help the viewer register to vote. But once a user clicks “Register to Vote,” the experience he or she will have can be very different, depending on where they live. > >If a user lives in a state that is not considered competitive in the presidential election, like California or Wyoming for example, they’ll be prompted to enter their email addresses and zip code and then directed quickly to a voter registration page for their state, or back to the original sign up section. > >But for users who enter a zip code that indicates they live in a battleground state, like Pennsylvania or Georgia, the process is very different. > >Rather than be directed to their state’s voter registration page, they instead are directed to a highly detailed personal information form, prompted to enter their address, cell phone number, and age. > >If they agree to submit all that, the system still does not steer them to a voter registration page. Instead, it shows them a “thank you” page. What the fuck. This should definitely be illegal. Elon Musk is the evil billionaire comic books tried to warn us about. Pretty sure it actually is. This is illegal. Guys, please report this following these instructions: https://www.usa.gov/voter-fraud This is illegal suppression. We need to report this. https://www.usa.gov/voter-fraud >How to report voter fraud, intimidation, or suppression If you suspect voter fraud, report it to your state or territorial election office. You can also report it to: >A local FBI office >A local U.S. attorney's office >The Public Integrity Section of the Department of Justice's Criminal Division >If you witness or suspect voter intimidation or suppression, there are three ways you can report it: >Contact your state or territorial election office >Contact the Voting Section of the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice >Use the Election Complaint Report online form" Surprised they used the link to the actual YouTube video. And the comments in the video aren't disabled yet, not a wise move Elon doing something illegal because he's a fucking idiot? I am shocked I tell you, just shocked. Actually super illegal, just straight up voter fraud. He sort of seems like the guy who would buy the store you worked in to fire you... So glad I deleted my account when he took over. I would love to see this prick go to prison. Isn't that why he originally bought Twitter in the first place? He's rich, they don't have prisons for the rich. It.. kinda seems like he's, maybe, *interfering* with the election? Well he's gonna try. Twitter…"X"🤮 is awful. I can’t believe people/News really still uses it. I checked it for the first time in a year the other day and immediately got suggested low effort/MEGA racist bullshit. We can go anywhere else but CNN will still take our nation’s temperature with X. Twitter…"X"🤮 is awful. I can’t believe people/News really still uses it. I checked it for the first time in a year the other day and immediately got suggested low effort/MEGA racist bullshit. We can go anywhere else but CNN will still take our nation’s temperature with X.

2024-08-02 16:13:19

Kyrie gives a very profound insightful take on the 2024 American Election

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Title: Kyrie gives a very profound insightful take on the 2024 American Election Body: Top Comments: https://preview.redd.it/4j1hds3sjagd1.jpeg?width=814&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a396dd7cdbf045eb795a0569bca7cde556756b4 Third eye Ky on terribly edited Facebook boomer political memes https://preview.redd.it/ouhxla0ikagd1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ea451dfa324a26d565e3df690156300aa44eb2b Brother Irving got me thinking https://preview.redd.it/qr27myojragd1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90c8c0312c993ac1bee9aec2f0050798d83406aa Which politician is Mr. Irving referring to here? 🧐 It's clearly Michael Dukakis. Lebum and Savannah im13andthisisdeep You know the country is screwed when Kyrie can accurately describe how politics work You know shits fucked when I can't even tell which side he's making fun of. Former Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis today https://preview.redd.it/mgq2vvicxagd1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d80e02c0cee694d65d5ec0b82579a179c02b460d https://preview.redd.it/65pjm3y8sagd1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be4b4d8d4049e5f308fa8a72cc2cf7a96c6e55c4 I have no idea which candidate it's supposed to refer to Ah yes, I hope the youth listens to the man who believes in flat earth and vaccines connecting black people to Satan to get deep political analysis. https://preview.redd.it/fwaa2dl84bgd1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fc9fc3e3058a659acd698a4cd2feaa7059e4238 Yakub Bryant I'm starting to feel like these politicians might not have my best interest in mind Yahweh whispers plays in his ears while he parts defenders like the Red Sea. הנסיך שעתיד לבוא יחתום גם על חזון וגם על נביא, צריך לשים לב אליו. חייליו יהרסו את העיר ואת בית המקדש. סופו יבוא במבול, ועד הסוף תהיה מלחמה. אף אחד לא ינצח את המשחק שלו, הוא המלך האמיתי היחיד של הידיות, וכולם יהיו עדים Educate yourself I came when reading this, thank you Yakub https://preview.redd.it/x3pen2o32bgd1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6b8287fb2c6289b16fba480b988ee398864c62f Like lying about revoking Roe v Wade. Both sides are the same is dumb as hell and the absolute laziest take. Dukakis played in a weak era against plumbers and still couldn’t win a chip 🤣 If it’s Kamala something about Israel probably because of his feelings on Jews. If it’s Trump, it’s probably about him reaching out to Black voters

2024-08-02 17:31:09

'Swifties for Kamala' ready to speak in 2024 presidential election

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Title: 'Swifties for Kamala' ready to speak in 2024 presidential election Body: Top Comments: If Swifties would unite with the Beyhive it would be over before it even started. Her finger is on the button, as soon as Taylor Swift endorses Harris, Trump's going to have a pretty bad time. You don't piss off K-Pop stans and you don't piss off Swifties. get both of them on stage with Dolly Parton for a Kamala fundraiser and we got ourselves a serious stew brewin As a chiefs fan and harris supporter, I've found a lot in common with swifties over the last few months lmao. Dolly supports hospitals, animal sanctuaries, and scholarships. Her politics is hidden in the plain sight. Swift may be one of Harris' trump cards around October or so. Pun intended. Oh god please someone ask Trump about K-Pop. She has a book program for kids. Someone signed our daughter up for it, and so we get a free book from Dolly once a month or so. There are classic children's books in the mix, but there are also newer books and bilingual books. They also send out a birthday email that includes a video from Dolly where she sings happy birthday. Our daughter got a big kick out of that on her birthday recently. Dolly is awesome. You're all really underestimating the bump Trump is going to get once Trapt hits the road playing to tens of fans in VFWs across the country. BTS army, standing by [deleted] Watch Swift perform at the DNC, lmao. But yeah, she needs to wait till late October to endorse if they want that swing the "Be Swift" movement I've always hated the Chiefs, and Harrison Butker makes it easier. I sure would love for someone like Travis Kelce to make it a bit harder. My Swiftie niece is already making vote for kamala bracelets, just like the ones they make for her concerts. Universal rules in this strange, chaotic timeline  [deleted] BeySwift! We need the original Swiftie to speak! "I love the Koreans, odd boys dancing though. No one has done more for Koreans than me. Kim jong Un, interesting man, tried to make peace, no one makes peace better than me. Biden can't make peace, he can't spell peace. No one spells like us do they folks? J.D. Vance's son likes the Koreans, maybe too much. Calls them Pikachu? Smart kid. Like Ivanka, she's the smartest."

2024-08-02 21:42:54

[FWI] Trump dies before the 2024 election, but his campaign decides to weekend at bernie's him instead of announcing it to the public

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Title: [FWI] Trump dies before the 2024 election, but his campaign decides to weekend at bernie's him instead of announcing it to the public Body: Top Comments: This is a guy who can’t keep his mouth shut for more than a day and whose writing/speaking style is so weirdly inimitable that you couldn’t keep up the masquerade that he’s alive for more than a few days before people start finding it really suspicious. They can certainly try that, but it’s going to look REALLY conspicuous when people notice his unhinged/delusional rants at stupid o’clock in the morning have either stopped or no longer sound like him. To test this I asked ChatGPT to imitate Donald Trump talking about breakfast Absolutely, I can do that. Here’s how it might sound if Donald Trump were discussing breakfast: “Listen folks, breakfast is huge. It’s the most important meal of the day, believe me. I know all about it. You’ve got to have a tremendous breakfast, the best breakfast. I’m talking about the best pancakes, the finest bacon—people say I have the best bacon, nobody cooks bacon like me. And eggs, you can’t forget the eggs. Sunny side up, scrambled, doesn’t matter—just the best eggs, the absolute best. It’s all about winning breakfast. You start your day right, you’re going to have a great day. We’re making breakfast great again, folks, and nobody does breakfast like we do. Believe me!” They put a combover wig on the guy that played Baron Harkkonen in Dune 2, and try to pass him off as Trump. This is exactly what I was thinking. Maybe 2015 Donald. but 2024 Donald would be more like : "Nobody knows breakfast like me. They tell me all the time- they say; wow the breakfast is tremendous. And the late-great Hannibal Lector, the Democrats keep saying nasty things about Hannah- they did. No country in our history has ever had such a disaster. Look at China, they have trade with them, and when I am back as President I will stop the Democrats, they are some really bad people. We have made a tremendous deal wi- the media says all the time- we are winning bigly." Like yea it sounds like him but it's honestly too coherent lol I don't know - ChatGPT is pretty good at imitating people, and with Trump you don't have to worry about the occasional word salad or complete lack of grounding in reality tipping your hand - they just make it more authentic. The Baron from David Lynch's original Dune movie from the 80s looks way more like Trump. These Reddit fantasies get weirder and sicker every day. Given his current health? Yeah, that's plausible. He has a variety of conflicting conditions that don't bode well for those of advanced age. His chances of winning would improve. MAGA will just cook up a conspiracy that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were shooting heart attack or stroke rays at him using George Soros' Jewish space laser. Oh hell, I might even start that one myself just to see how far it gets. I spot it after he claimed he cooks bacon. To a misogynistic elitist like him cooking is so far beneath him he wouldn’t even think to brag about it unless he was on a cooking show or something stupid. The guy who is running for President after killing a million Americans due to incompetence? Yeah, so weird to think about him. I am shocked that he has survived this long. Oh well they say only the good die young. What conditions? I haven't heard anything. Stress of the election and being overweight can cause health issues and there's probably underlying health problems that the public isn't privy to. I could see him saying this The first time I recall hearing about 'no group of people has every been treated so badly' (referring to republicans), I thought about it for a few moments, and out popped the slaves and several other examples. A bit of research with wikipedia confirmed my thought that if not most, damn near most presidents have done terrible things, from Operation Wetback on. (This is not counting things that were terrible, but arguably done for good reason) Worked for Andropov when Brezhnev died in '82, gave him 2 weeks to consolidate his position in the parry before announcing to the world that he had died. So I guess in order for this to work, Vance will have to be ruthless and ready to execute potential rivals with gunshots to the back of the head. Brezhnev rarely appeared in public, so it was easy to pretend he was alive. Trump is a media animal, so it's much harder to keep him sequestered. It would be easy to impersonate his social media, but at some point he will have to show up somewhere and start riffing like he does. >sicker Ok I get it's a little them of them, but sicker is melodramatic

2024-08-02 22:52:49

Verifiable results of the 2024 presidential election of Venezuela by Municipality

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Title: Verifiable results of the 2024 presidential election of Venezuela by Municipality Body: Top Comments: Anyone know what are pop counts of these regions? Kinda wonder why they didnt put that in the chart tbh. Not that it would make Maduro look any better, just more accurately exactly how bad it is. Wtf. I didn't know the election scandal was THIS bad. I feel for Venezuelans, man. The opposition won for almost three times the amount Maduro got. There’s been riot and detention the whole week, government has detained more than 1600 people and killed (confirmed) 16 people, last Thursday I think President Maduro says it would started to build reeducation centers for the protesters aka concentration camps. Police and National Guard is checking phones and interrogated people is a chaos right now The way the voting system works is that at the end of the day, each machine prints off what was voted for, and how many. These receipts are then signed off by both sides to verify they are valid. Those receipts had pictures taken of them, or they have physical copies of each one of those machines for 80%+ of the country. The reason Maduro can't release results and fabricate results is due to the paper trail. I couldn't find data for individual counties, but there is a graph for states on Wikipedia: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024\_Venezuelan\_presidential\_election#/media/File:2024\_Presidential\_Election\_Results\_by\_State\_en.png](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Venezuelan_presidential_election#/media/File:2024_Presidential_Election_Results_by_State_en.png) Maduro lost in all states and received half as many votes overall as his opponent Are these equal population districts? No those are the municipes similar to counties in the USA Verified by who? Only it shows all the big cities voting for the opposition as well. Maracaibo, Caracas, Valencia, Barquisimeto, Ciudad Guayana are all blue to dark blue. Well, the government destroyed all the power of the unions and guilds, so there is no way to call for a general strike, but the country is working halfway. The productive apparatus has been destroyed for years there’s barely industry left Ok so, since it makes me so happy seeing people paying attention and expressing concern on the elections in my country, I think is fair to explain some things a little better: **What about population density?** Venezuela is a relatively urban country, with the 85% of the venezuelans living on the north-western and north-center part of the country in states like Zulia, Miranda, Carabobo, Lara, Aragua, Anzoátegui and the Capital District. And biggest population centers are also fierce opposition strongholds, with cities like the capital Caracas (64% Gonzalez 32% Maduro), Maracaibo (75% EG 24% NM), Valencia (73% EG 24% NM), Barquisimeto (73% EG 24% NM) and Ciudad Guayana (72% EG 25 NM) together accounting 1/4th of the total population. **But this map doesn't matches the official results given by the National Electoral Council (CNE)!** The opposition party (PUD), as part of their strategy to secure their victory against Maduro, organized their electoral witnesses, voluntaries (allowed by law) whose objective were to oversee the elections and receive a copy of the count receipt given by the voting machine which would be later collected by them and published on the webpage cited as source. This receipts are, by law, non-confidential, encrypted, inalterable ( [according to the government](https://twitter.com/gustavoalonsoj/status/1819473028679659882) ), all political parties are allowed to publish them after the first results report given by the CNE, and the CNE is obligated to publish the contents of those receipts within 48 hours. The CNE gave their first results report (which are, for the record, [mathematically fraudulent](https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/1eg4xj7/mathematics_expose_amateurish_fraud_in_venezuela/) because the numbers are nearly perfect percentages) and then the opposition released their results pages which are taken from those receipts which were handed to the opposition witnesses by the voting table staff. Results which are displayed in this map. **How do I know that these receipts are real?** You can check the validity of each receipt by scanning the QR code which is a copy of the raw data sent to the National Electoral Council, or go to any social media app and search for the the many public counts and compare the results with the corresponding receipt in the page; but if you know something about cryptography, you can verify the integrity of the receipt with the hash (which is related with the MAC address of the machine) and electronic signature above and below the document. If you're Venezuelan, just ask your neighbor if the signature matches, since the voting staff are selected by proximity to the nearest voting center. It's impossible to forge these receipts without anyone noticing unless you're the National Electoral Council. That's why the CNE, the Maduro's coalition and other opposition parties hasn't yet published their receipts, because they know that these receipts are inalterable. They're encrypted, linked with an single machine, signed by voting center staff which information is publicly available on the CNE website, there's 30.000 of voting tables, the receipts are handed and verified by said staff on a literal classroom filled with millitary officers, and the results are counted publicly by the staff once the voting period ends. The procedure is very strict and I can assure you that this is the most (and only) secure and transparent step of Venezuelan elections. **Isn't the Essequibo Guayana's?** It doesn't really matter. This is, by custom, the map of Venezuela. The red parts are, in fact, mostly empty stretches of nothing. Except Sucre which is like the one state Madur might've won apparently Associated Press, El País and the Colombian electoral observers checked the results and said they are coherent. I also saw some experts in Twitter say that the results are congruent with some mathematical laws that make them very convincing. For example, all digits are distributed in an almost equal proportion, which is what happens with random numbers. Of course, the most important part is that the results of every voting table are supported by tallies which include a series of codes and signatures that are impossible to falsify. As chavista leader Juan Barreto said, "for it to be falsified, they would need the complicity of the electoral institution or otherwise technologies that do not exist". Guyana shouldn't be on their map. Venezuela has claimed 74% of their neighbor, and only re-ignites their claim when they have internal disputes and need to distract the Venezuelan public. verified by who? This is incorrect. The Carter Center issued a statement saying that they cannot verify or corroborate the results of the Venezuelan election. But they also DID NOT corroborate the opposition’s results saying Gonzalez won. Same goes for the UN. https://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/2024/venezuela-073024.html Gives me 'land doesn't vote' vibes then. Maduro es un hijo de puta Wait, so they didn't even rig the voting machine and just faked results after observers got an accurate printout? That's more blatant cheating then I expected. Do they think people are stupid or something? maduro is like voldemort

2024-08-04 20:52:31

Maddow: Pro-Trump Administrators already in place to subvert the 2024 election

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Title: Maddow: Pro-Trump Administrators already in place to subvert the 2024 election Body: Top Comments: This isn't getting the coverage it needs. If Trump loses the election, he's going to claim it was rigged, the planted electors will refuse to certify the votes, it will be challenged, and then eventually brought to the SCOTUS where the worst could possibly happen. It's absolutely terrifying. The problem they have now is they’d be stealing it from a popular candidate the people have an emotional investment in. It’s a lot harder to get people to sleepwalk through that. It's increasingly likely that Harris will win by an absolute landslide, beyond any reasonable objection, then they will stupidly and clumsily proceed with their planned heist anyway. It's really their last chance to do so, there won't be any finesse or subtlety to it. It's just those annoying assholes "rules lawyering" and expecting everyone else to just give up and follow along with it "Because you have to nuh uh"... I think we've learned a thing or two since the 1930's. This is really really scary. WE need to act now to prevent it. I would absolutely not assume it will be a landslide. The EC just isn’t set up for Democrats to win landslides. It’s set up for Republicans to win even without a popular vote majority. Plus we haven’t gotten into the real meat of the election season yet. Harris is still riding high on her novelty. Trump and MAGA are vicious and nothing is off the table, doubly so when you remember it’s win or go to jail for Trump. And Trump’s base votes reliably, unlike Democrats and college kids. Don’t bank on a Harris landslide - that ain’t happening. But the best case scenario is basically like 2020 where Biden won all the swing states (even if the margins were tight). They ran their “stop the steal” playbook anyways, but it doesn’t work across like 4 states. The nightmare scenario is it coming down to one state (like PA), where we could have a repeat of 2000. They’ve already admitted to doing work in the background with judges and others to subvert the elections. So essentially to sum up the small takeaway on what we can do about this now according to Marc Elias: Spread the word on social media, on the street, EVERYWHERE YOU POSSIBLY CAN, in order to bring more awareness to this danger At the same time, we can attend these canvas board meetings, file comments before the state election boards(ESPECIALLY IN GEORGIA). And in our own counties, we can know who is on those boards and attend their meetings. Do all of these as MUCH as possible and we can defeat these efforts to subvert the election as Marc Elias says here. These people who refuse to certify elections should be put on notice that they will be personally sued and could lose everything. The DOJ needs ro get involved **now** Yeah, don’t forget there are 70 million idiots in this country that voted for him in 2020. They didn’t just disappear. Jan 6th happened after the 2020 vote. My grandparents are never trumpers since that day College kids may vote if Taylor Swift comes out in support of Harris. Don’t fuck with the Swifties, man. I think this is under appreciated. You hear so many stories of people not supporting Trump after Jan 6th. They just aren’t screaming it everywhere they go like those still in the cult. We should fire Garland and get someone that actually gives a shit about this country as the AG There were some county board members in AZ that refused to certify the 2022 midterms - so the AG charged them with multiple felony counts. Procedures differ state by state, but there are consequences for those that want to fuck around and find out. As usual, Trump’s cult members seem willing to sacrifice themselves for their leader. Such a pathetic disgrace. Part of the reason why insurrectionists need to be dealt with quickly and harshly is so future insurrectionists are under no delusion what will happen to them. I watched Maddow earlier tonight, and this made me scared, then pissed, and then resolute to do something about it. Marc Elias is a national treasure - always on the frontlines fighting new GOP-led election shenanigans. Makes me want to take a break from soulless corporate law, and go work for his legal team to defend democracy. I’m terrified … But also, everyone should read and understand this. They’re going to try, and we need to be ready. But it’s not as terrifying as it would be if these states were all Solid GOP ground. The fake electors would just be ignored. Democrats run the elections in 6 of the 7 swing states, so Republicans can mess around all they want, it won’t matter once the Governor, Attorney General, and Secretary of State certify the election in those states.

2024-08-06 05:59:17

Trump Supporters Are Ready to Subvert the 2024 General Election By Refusing to Certify the Election at the Local Level

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Title: Trump Supporters Are Ready to Subvert the 2024 General Election By Refusing to Certify the Election at the Local Level Body: Top Comments: This is their big plan that they think they're keeping secret like project 2025. Lol. FBI should pay them a visit and let them know of their duties. This is why Trump mentioned the 3 members of the Georgia Election Board(MAGA), during his speech in Atlanta on Saturday. Typically, people who do admin for the election, do not get shoutouts during campaign speeches, unless they are working with the candidate specifically, and they have a reason to know your name. [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/05/trump-praises-georgia-election-board/74674946007/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/05/trump-praises-georgia-election-board/74674946007/) They should. Based on their obvious refusal to remind even their own officers of their duty, I doubt the FBI will do anything. Marc Elias, founder of Democracy Docket, talks with Rachel Maddow about how Donald Trump supporters are implementing a strategy of embedding themselves in the administrative side of the election so they can subvert the certification of the election if the outcome is not in Trump's favor. This is why Trump thinks folks won't have to vote in the future. At about 7 minutes into the video Marc essentially says, 'Making this public is a big part of the battle. Speak out, don't stay silent. Each of you can post on social media, attend canvas board meetings, file comments in Georgia before the state election board. In your own counties you can know who is on these boards and you can attend those meetings' This attempt to stop certification toward the goal of reinstalling the ex president has been posted on Reddit occasionally for weeks but it rarely seems to get more than a few hundred upvotes. I don't know why, since it seems the most alarming story in the news, but it really seems to deserve more engagement from people if they want to keep the US a democratic republic rather than say, christofacist. And there is always one comment that says we have systems in place to prevent it, or the president can just abuse his office using scotus immunity, but scotus can interpret their ruling however they want and seem ready to rule in the opposite direction. These sort of comments are false reassurance and serve only to weaken any resistance He’s not going to win. He’s going to cheat and still lose. I really wish the current administration would act on this publicly, drag it out into the spotlight. bold move Cotton, let's see how that plays out for them.. Seriously, this is the USA not a banana republic, one way or another they will be snuffed out. My fear is Trump actually winning the vote. They are not trying to keep it secret. Donald Trump was publicly bragging about it. I forget who said it, but a while back a republican bragged during an interview that they had plans to win the election that the democrats hadn't even thought of. They never expect trump to just blurt shit out, but he keeps doing it and they can't stop him. From your lips to God’s ears, sir. And they’ve learned from their 60+ lost election cases which “evidence” they have to manufacture. This is exactly what Trump has done to escape accountability for his crimes - delay, delay, delay until scotus swoops in with some BS made up garbage to let him have his way. He will do it again. We have to stop this shit. Not to mention the segment at the end of this show about how Trump was paid $10 million by Egypt.. the biggest presidential scandal in history that was suppressed by Bill Barr. Here's the thing with Georgia BoE, they just recently rammed through 2 new rules. 1, that they are going to hand count every vote (delay); 2, they can challenge a certification for ANY amount of suspected fraud. Literally, anything. This will allow them to delay as long as they possibly can before the state supreme Court has to get involved, which will cause further delay. Something else I heard, but can't remember where. One of Trump's mouthpieces was in an interview and the interviewer said something about "well, we'll find out on election day" and the mouthpiece said, "the election ain't over until inauguration day". Read as: everything will be strung out, delayed, challenged, challenged again, challenged again, appealed, etc.... right up until Jan 6 (or if this guy is to be believed) Jan 20, 2025. Edit: found it: https://missouriindependent.com/2024/07/18/top-trump-adviser-says-2024-election-not-over-until-inauguration-day/ Edit 2: Added link to more info about the Georgia board of electors rule changes: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/12/georgia-fulton-county-paper-ballots-elections Exactly. It'll be like the elections in Russia now, where they allow a few opposition candidates to exist to give the people (and the rest of the world) an illusion of choice, but then the incumbent just wins by a landslide anyways. It was one of the guys from project 2025. No need to keep it secret, when the Court criminally supports the “candidate” in violation of the law. Ultimately, the enforcement of the law comes down to what the People want or will allow. So far, the masses have allowed gross abuses by officials at every level. So why wouldn’t the officials continue to try for ever bigger power grabs?

2024-08-06 11:14:33

Kamala Harris picks Tim Walz as VP running mate for 2024 election

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Title: Kamala Harris picks Tim Walz as VP running mate for 2024 election Body: Top Comments: This is an amazing pick! Walz is the least pro-Israel among the candidates. [He complimented the pro-Palestinian non-committed voters](https://x.com/jacobkornbluh/status/1765237965297533373?s=46&t=fR0YcPpTt4fvFCLxodhtHQ). He also called for a cease-fire last year and urged more humanitarian aid to enter Gaza. If this pick is any indication, it means that Kamala actually listened to the pro-Palestinian and anti-genocide voters. Edit: this of course is not enough. They should unite together to stop the genocide and push for embargo on weapons for Israel! Shockingly good choice, even they must've realized a loud and proud zionist was simply not a good look. Ben shapiro's currently having a meltdown on twitter over it, very amusing to see This makes me so happy - probably the best possible move they could have made. He reminds me of my dad (a compliment!) - a salt-of-the-earth former teacher who just wants people to have good lives. Love how warm and relatable he is. Minnesotan here and I am so hype. Other states are jealous of how much good policy we’ve passed. It’s time to make Megasota real. We will eat the dakotas! https://preview.redd.it/08niuiu382hd1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3807b9ee4da98332aa61a36efb2f8139beab279c I’m not from the U.S., but I’m really hoping this means she may actually put her foot down if elected. She could win by a landslide if she announced stopping weapons shipments to Israel and an end to the genocide tomorrow. ETA: Which gcide apologist sent me a reddit cares for this comment lmao 🤡 Great choice and I look forward to him eviscerating JD Vance. Plus the “weird” line of attack he initiated has been brilliant because it’s almost impossible for Trump and co to argue against it without just seeming like they’re proving his point. https://preview.redd.it/50y1sqbld2hd1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c23b5c1206d0cab59d3a37ccf5e7f129410bc88 And this makes it seem like he was a very involved teacher at that. Great choice. I think his energy and optimism is a good match for VP Harris and her campaign. As much as I wish it were the case, there is still a very strong pro-Israeli sentiment amongst Americans, which is why you see so many politicians trying to walk the line between both Israelis and Palestinians in Gaza. It's important to notice when we're in a bubble of like-minded thinkers. Editing to say, I love that Walz brings balance to this area on this ticket! I was so ready to be disappointed by her picking Shapiro. Picking Walz is going to keep the momentum and energy going. And he was an actual* teacher for ten years! As a fellow actual teacher (typing this during my planning period), I am beyond thrilled. [“Actual teacher”, not someone who did a 6-month stint in Teach for America or “taught English abroad” like someone on House Hunters International, and therefore claims to be totally attuned to the state of American public education.] I love Walz! I was hoping she’d go with him! Something I like about Walz is that he’s won the Minnesota congressional delegation’s annual hotdish contest a few times, which is just very wholesome to me. It’s never been more over for Trump. He still hasn’t even settled on an attack plan yet against Kamala, lol. It’s been amusing to watch conservatives in free fall for the past few weeks despite them constantly ringing the “Biden is too old and incompetent to serve” bell over and over again. They (theoretically) got what they’ve been asking for, so why didn’t they have a contingency plan in place for this event? Even if we take away Biden getting pushed out, what was the plan if he got too sick to keep running or just straight up passed away during the election? I know these guys don’t believe in having a Plan B, but this is just ridiculous… The more I learn about him, the more I like him. For any of you fellow olds, you may remember the W selling point - “you could grab a beer with him”. Walz seems like someone I’d let watch my kids. Nice pick. Maybe doesn't bring over a group of votes like other picks could have but he is a great guy with a fantastic policy resume who knows how to talk to real people. He also doesn't piss off either end of the Dem voters the way Shapiro or Kelly likely would have. R/conservative is now claiming the Dems are antisemitic for not picking Shapiro. But also Kamala is a bad candidate because she's a DEI hire since she's (recently) black. Make it make sense. Conservatives can’t imagine someone who would willingly cede power. Biden stepping down was unimaginable Hahaha I love this for him. He’s also a former high school social studies teacher. Very chill, sweet guy. No one I knew liked Shapiro. Everyone was at an anyone but Shapiro. Hell PA doesn’t even like him lol

2024-08-06 13:18:19

Polls show Kamala Harris moving ahead of Donald Trump in 2024 US election

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Title: Polls show Kamala Harris moving ahead of Donald Trump in 2024 US election Body: Top Comments: Wait until the DNC and Walz bumps, it’s going to the moon like Kelly. Vote and help others to vote and register. Solid vp pick just occurred! Personally I see it going up and up now, barring some catastrophic f’d up stuff occurring. Now if Harris and Walz both get to debate empty podiums I’d be really less worried. Vote in overwhelmingly large numbers, yall. The gop is already [cheating](https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/trump-reveals-plan-to-subvert-georgias-elections/) in full light of day [removed] Walz with an empty podium would be tragic. We need to see him take JD down football coach style. * Kamala Harris is leading Donald Trump in recent national polls for the 2024 US presidential election, with slight advantages shown by SurveyUSA, Morning Consult, YouGov, CBS News, and UMass Amherst. * Despite Harris's national lead, battleground state polls present a mixed picture, with Trump leading in some states like Georgia and Arizona, while Harris is ahead in others like Michigan and Wisconsin. * Harris named Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her running mate, adding to the campaign's momentum and increasing her favorability rating, which turned positive for the first time since mid-July. * The shift in poll numbers comes after Joe Biden decided not to run for re-election, leading to Harris becoming the Democratic frontrunner and boosting Democratic optimism for maintaining control of the White House. * While Nate Silver notes Harris's current lead in national polls and key states, he also cautions that economic concerns and potential recession fears could impact the election's outcome. Strong polls can help us keep energy and momentum! But don't let it get us comfortable. Walz is going to bring independents, swing voters, and people who have been checked out of politics. I can't imagine this being that close anymore. I hope you're right, but speaking from outside the country, please don't let this make you all complacent. Get out and vote! Trump is NOT going to drop out. RNC can dream all they want but now they are stuck with him. in my best daydreams weird trump just drops out after he keeps hearing about her beating him in poll after poll = he takes his campaign and goes home so he can claim he didn't run so he didn't lose, protecting his tiny whiny ego Ignore those polls. Vote vote vote ❎ Correct! Trump is running because he wants to avoid prison. This is basically going to force Trump to debate on Kamala’s terms. He has no justification from either himself or his base to keep this Fox News free rally debate idea floating. Where did Vance Walz off to? [deleted] So much work still to do. Now we have a full ticket I hope to see some big pushes to move the needle in the swings. Given both Kelly and Shapiro were not selected, it will sting if she wins WI and MI but loses PA and AZ.  I’ve noticed republicans have been much faster and seemingly more focused attacking Walz out the gate. The Dems cannot get complacent with the last few weeks honeymoon phase. It’s vital they define both Kamala and Walz before republicans can paint them as radical leftists (as ridiculous as that claim is).  I think the polls will be beneficial right before the DNC. After that the momentum will fully be in Harris’ favor and polls will just be polls. Giving Kamala only 4 months was more beneficial than not and this is probably one of the biggest political gambles that paid off We don't need him to take Vance down. We need him to care about Vance and ask him why he's like this. We need him to play concerned coach asking if everything is alright at home. You want to break the Republicans that kind of honest Midwestern sympathy from an older man would do it. Great idea. Yea I mean I really hope nobody interprets "polls look strong" to mean "you don't need to vote." Unfortunately our shitty system for elections does make a lot of people feel like voting isn't worth the time and effort to do it, but this is the kind of ticket that I think energized and motivates more people to go do it, even if they are in a non-swing state, so they can go and say "I voted for this pair; I voted in an election that hopefully we can finally say moves American politics beyond the Silent Gen and Baby Boomers' vision of governance and into a more modern era." And of course an election thay hopefully puts Donald Trump out to pasture for good, though who knows how much longer he'll curse us with his presence here on Earth.

2024-08-06 16:56:30

Mormons are organizing for Harris — and they could swing the 2024 election

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Title: Mormons are organizing for Harris — and they could swing the 2024 election Body: Latter-day Saints — famous for their organizing prowess, but not for political diversity — are making waves in the 2024 presidential election. They are a potentially decisive voting bloc because of the faith's large population in Arizona, where President Biden's 2020 gains with members exceeded his margin of victory. If Harris can replicate that support, it could tip the precarious swing state — and the election. Driving the news: The group Latter-day Saints for Harris is ramping up its efforts, with more than 2,500 people signing up within days for an online rally Tuesday. Meanwhile, Harris won a high-profile endorsement last week from John Giles, the Republican, LDS mayor of Mesa, Arizona — once called the "most conservative city in America." If the 2024 election tips the scales for more Latter-day Saint voters, it could chip away at possible lingering fears that vocally supporting Democrats will make them outsiders in their church communities. That could reshape political races throughout the Mountain West. Top Comments: There’s nothing traditionally conservative about Trump and Vance. They both do almost everything a Mormon is told not to do. its not that they are switching parties or changing their political beliefs, its that trump is so horrible and quite frankly unchristian that they are willing to deal with policies they disagree with to get rid of him. From what I know about Mormons, they're thoroughly socially conservative. What made so many of them switch? Give me blutah As a Mormon I dont know if dems are bringing in LDS as much as the current MAGA Republicans are pushing LDS people out. My dad mom grandpa and grandma have all voted Republican their whole life a few of them voted for Trump in 2016 but since then have refused to vote for him in protest of the Republican Party choosing him. They voted for Biden in 2020 but I don’t know if they will vote for Kamala because they have bought into the idea that she is farther left than Biden. But they definitely won’t vote for Trump That's true, but the traditional conservative refrain is "but dems are babykillers". How is a pro-abortion pro-queer Democratic party bringing in LDS members? >quite frankly unchristian Now I think about it, the only commandment Trump hasn't broken is murder, and possibly the "no other gods before me". LDS members just have different principles than the average evangelical voter >the only commandment Trump hasn't broken is murder, And he joked about breaking that one too As a card carrying Mormon there are definitely different pockets of us all over the west. A lot of LDS people are more libertarian conservative in the true sense that they don’t think the government should be legislating personal choices, and those people personally don’t like Trump. But there are still a good amount who seem to trust their political party more than their religion hopefully the ones in Arizona are smarter politically than the majority of Latter Day Saints here in Idaho. ...you don't even need to click. The article's right there. This is about Arizona. I've always said that Mormons are (conservative) (Christians) but not (conservative Christians) > because they have bought into the idea that she is farther left than Biden. To be fair, she is. Especially when you take the Harris/Walz ticket as a whole. Totally still worth electing her though... the leftists held their noses and voted for neoliberals, so I feel obligated to do the same for a social democrat. [removed] I ... don't think that's true? A lot of Christians are Democratic. https://www.pewresearch.org/religious-landscape-study/database/ I've lived in areas with large Evangelical and Mormon bases and while both of them are "socially conservative" their flavors of social conservativism are noticeably different to the extent that you really can't lump them together. Now, there are a lot of Mormons that also happen to be hardcore MAGA nuts, but there is a non insignificant minority that you theoretically could make inroads with. The Mormons are seemingly the only Christian sect that recognizes how wildly unchristian trump is. Plus he fucks with Mitt Romney. Mormons don't like when you fuck with Mitt Romney. The vast majority of Mormons are still Trump voters. A minority are fighting back. >Trump hasn't broken is murder, Just wait until he goes to 5th Avenue Where was that electoral map someone posted here with Blutah as a mistake? Maybe they're an Oracle.

2024-08-07 14:26:53

Trump campaign spokesman, Steven Cheung, says email hackers intend to "interfere with the 2024 election and sow chaos throughout our democratic process."

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Title: Trump campaign spokesman, Steven Cheung, says email hackers intend to "interfere with the 2024 election and sow chaos throughout our democratic process." Body: Top Comments: I feel like it got memoryholed that Russia also hacked Trump in 2016 they just didn't leak like they did for Clinton Karma. Karmala Just setting up the election fraud claims after a Kamala win. Then a lot of anti trump republicans did an about face and bowed down to him. Weird! I call bullshit. The campaign is an optical disaster from the couch-humping rumor to “weird” catching on like wild fire and on top the added popularity of Tim Walz??? 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨 looks rough! MAGA is looking for a scapegoat for the mess. Correct Yep he’s gonna claim Iran was working with Kamala, like how Russia worked with Trump in 2016 (but for real). All that is left to complete this op is for Kamala to have a long history visiting Iran so that she is likely compromised, frequently doing business with Iranians, her family claiming they get all the money they need from Iran, her advisors all having ties to Iran, her primary bank being tied to Iran and potentially communicating with the campaign through subtle server data transfers, meeting with an Iranian propagandist about sanctions during the election, pro-kamala ads being paid for in Iranian currency, an entire foreign intelligence division being established by Iran to get her elected, then after winning the election her family members can try to set up back channels to Iran using the Iranian embassy rather than the state department, invite the iranian embassador and iranian press to the oval office in private and share classified info, then it can be revealed that she had an ongoing business deal worth a billion dollars in Iran, then she can bewilderingly side with the ayatollah against US intelligence services in a public press conference after a private meeting with only a Iranian provided interpreter, and then begin advocating for a reduction of western military power in the region. I know I've missed some, so feel free to add.   Edit: cause why stop at Kamala. A ton of democratic politicians can also go visit Iran during conspicuously patriotic American holidays. Exactly. They false flag their own shit all of the time; that's why they accuse others of doing it. The GOP motto is "Cheat to Win." So very weird They also said hunters laptop pics not being released was election interference. So they going to release the pics of his files? Oh. So they're confirming the leak is real. That's brilliant strategy. I'm sure what's being published is *super* good for Trump's campaign. It's not like he could say it's all fake and his devotees would lap it up like good little cult members. Plot twist: They love chaos! I was going to say, we can have AOC, Bernie, Fetterman, Newsom, and Shapiro take a trip to Iran on July 4th to hand deliver a letter from Kamala to the ayatollah. Looking at you Graham and Rubio Iran, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find those pee tapes and Epstein videos. “~~Russia~~ Iran, if you’re listening…” Trump asked Russia to interfere with the 2016 Election on live television [Russia, if you are listening...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b71f2eYdTc&t=22s) They REALLY want everyone to see his penis, huh?

2024-08-10 23:30:40

MMW: If DJT loses the 2024 election, he will eventually flee the US and take up residence in a hostile foreign country that would never extradite him.

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Title: MMW: If DJT loses the 2024 election, he will eventually flee the US and take up residence in a hostile foreign country that would never extradite him. Body: Should Trump lose the election, his trials and numerous legal troubles proceed and he may face prison. There's zero chance he subjects himself to such a fate. It seems obvious to me that an easy out would be to flee to some other country (Hint: Russia) to avoid ever facing consequences for his crimes in the US. In doing so, he would get to maintain a grip on at least some of his followers back at home, fancying himself a victim in exile—in hiding from an abusive and corrupt legal system. Oh, and also that the election was stolen from him again. He gets to continue fomenting division and soliciting donations from his followers. Lastly, certainly the government/head of the foreign country (Putin?) would be happy to oblige their new resident, in exchange for US state/national secrets of course. Which Trump would eagerly hand over so long as it means saving his skin. But yeah, if Trump loses, I don't imagine him choosing to remain in the US. Top Comments: And we will constantly remind MAGAts that they are traitors to the US and their god-king is a Benedict Arnold Russia, if you're listening, please take him now. And Ukraine, if you're listening, good job taking Kursk. Now take it all the way to Moscow and then disarm the country like Japan was disarmed after WWII. And then let Trump rot in that shit hole. They won’t accept that. They’d rather side with Putin than call someone like AOC a peer and an American. Don't compare him to Benedict Arnold. He was an American hero who we treated like shit. We turned out back on him before he betrayed us. Trump was always a piece of shit Putin would have him executed. He’s no longer an asset. Putin despises Trump. and the golf courses are pretty meh. Not Russia. North Korea has only enough food to feed one fat man. Not North Koreea Saudi Arabia does not like powerless people and he owes them too much money. Not Saudi Arabia. UAE. Nice golf courses. Lots of pretty girls to grab by the p\*\*\*\*\*s. but still he owes them too much money and no longer owns a hotel just down the street from the White House, so maybe not UAE. Venezuela only has room for one dictator wanna be. Not South American. The penguins in Antarctica are blue. Deep Blue. Not Antarctica. Maybe the Moon? Or Mars, with Elon? Yeah, Mars. You really think Putin would take him? He wouldn’t have any value anymore. Hope he takes his trumpanzees with him so we don’t have to deal with them ever again And as a felon, his passport is forfeit. That's why when he fails in Nov, he'll be run through the courts for the current five cases and whatever more pop up with his vote tampering and inevitable insurrection. Then, after being found guilty, will be put in media isolation where even the Secret Sefvice can't stop him from going out like Epstein. I agree, DonOld would probably fall out of a window. Hey AOC is a total babe and smart. Follow her on IG. She just talks and no prompter in sight. Maybe a little youthful exuberance but I see her becoming very strong if she stays in the game UAE or Qatar. But does Trump Org still have their accounts being watched so he doesn’t hide money from his defamation and fraud cases? The second he becomes a fugitive the US will freeze all his accounts. I wonder if his narcissism prevents him from considering he’d need a “exit strategy.” Maybe he could get cash from Jared and Ivanka’s Saudi slush fund. If he just died at Sararoga he'd be a hero The Secret Service won't let him Maybe.. maybe not. The consequences for Russia would be catastrophic; the Ukrainians would raze Moscow to the ground, and every country would embargo all trade. More likely cooler heads would execute putin and anyone associated with him, then sue for peace. With security guarantees and a withdrawal, Ukraine would leave. This is maybe the most important point, logistically. Trump Org has a court-appointed controller who sees every account, every transaction. Trump doesn't have any money that he can just stick in a bag and take off with. If he leaves the US, he'll have to pay his own way - no foreign government is going to prop him up on their equivalent of welfare. The federal government will freeze his assets. He doesn't have the money to do that. Hey a lot of us Floridians here are blue but we have to hide it from the MAGAts for fear of being shot or something. Can’t have bumper stickers or yard signs or we will be the target. (Had a Biden/Harris yard sign in 2020 for a few days and had trash thrown on my yard by MAGAts driving by screaming “TRUMP”) 🙄🙄🙄 He’s brain dead and can’t remember any information that doesn’t pertain to his own persona and wealth Good observation. When (not if) he commits crimes this fall he is a private citizen and therefore subject to the law. Vote .

2024-08-11 06:32:53

The 2024 Election if only Reddit could vote

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Title: The 2024 Election if only Reddit could vote Body: Top Comments: Wrong https://preview.redd.it/r83wju9x2hid1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e99e8f3bd69c33b38652cfc3815bfcf1200f1da9 are you saying reddit is a far left echo chamber? this is unheard of news! There are really too many left leaning people on here. For people who always champion diversity, they really do hate a contrary opinion. Can you imagine living in a country where no one works? Reddit is r/politics .So much hate. The tolerant left isn’t really that tolerant  Holy shit have I finally found a sub that’s not going to hound me for not being a fucking democrat? Reddit is such a cesspool when it comes to politics it makes me never want to come on here again  Reddit looks at this economy and the brink of WW3 with rampant crime….VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO There’s not enough fire emojis 🔥 on all major cities Trump 2024🇺🇸✊ I could definitely see this outcome if that was the case. The TDS on reddit is unreal. Reddit is a Democrat neolib echo chamber lmao not a far left one Its okay. Demonrats let illegals vote every election. They’re performing mental gymnastics with no bounds. We’ll end up like the UK in no time No they’re not. They’re horrible Lmfao what is this sub This sub is alright. Lot of people here don't know if it's serious, or a meme sub. So you get left and right comments, but overall I'd say it leans right. Just goes to show how stupid people on Reddit can be.

2024-08-13 17:48:29

Bernie Sanders Warns Donald Trump Is Gearing Up To Deny 2024 Election Results

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Title: Bernie Sanders Warns Donald Trump Is Gearing Up To Deny 2024 Election Results Body: Top Comments: He denied the results in the election he won, he still claims he would have won the popular vote if it wasn't for cheating. > “Donald Trump may be crazy, but he’s not stupid. When he claims that ‘nobody’ showed up at a 10,000 person Harris-Walz rally in Michigan that was live-streamed and widely covered by the media, that it was all AI, and that Democrats cheat all of the time, there is a method to his madness,” Sanders said in a statement. > > “Clearly, and dangerously, what Trump is doing is laying the groundwork for rejecting the election results if he loses,” he added. “If you can convince your supporters that thousands of people who attended a televised rally do not exist, it will not be hard to convince them that the election returns in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and elsewhere are ‘fake’ and ‘fraudulent.’” Depressingly, after January Sixth and the slap-on-the-wrist punishments for the vast majority of the attackers, it's not surprising that Donald, someone in his circle, or just his cult, are likely to give it another shot. he’s still arguing about crowd sizes while many many pictures exist It’s so upsetting that he’s allowed to run and treated like such a normal candidate. Sick world. Yes, he repeatedly said that there is no way that 80 plus million people voted for Biden so that that would instill insecurity in our elections He just can’t handle that there was and still is 80 plus million of us that dislike him greatly (I changed it from hate because I was raised better than that.) He’s the worst thing that ever happened to America He's been saying the exact same things over and over for 9 years That's what's starting to finish him now. In 2015, the things he said were outrageous. Now, they're just boring. We're all so desensitised to his craziness that we're not even shocked anymore. He's act is tired and so are we, of him. I wasn’t raised better than that. Dudes a shitwad. He; 1. Never secured the popular vote, 2. Never accepted the results of the 2020 election, 3. Will not accept the results of the 2024 election i have family members that genuinely believe there was massive fraud in 2020 no matter how many times i tell them. i'll never forgive trump and his band of fascist fucks for what they did to my family and to the country. i hope they burn. I'm glad that we're finally starting to see Democrat leadership warning about this. But I'd really, really rather see Democratic leadership saying "Here's how we're going to prevent this". I hate the feeling that we're walking into a disaster that everyone has seen coming for four years, and we seem to be as unprepared for it as we were when we all saw Jan 6 coming last time. Of course he is. He's an entitled shithead who can't take losing. He will whine and cry and stamp his feet and claim robbery. And his base will eat it up and do whatever he wants to get him to stop crying I look forward to the day we don't have to hear from or about Donald Fucking Trump any more. And we won’t accept him as president. So BORING 🥱 This exact thing has been repeated thousands of times now too. Trump said it, and now his supporters say it all the time too. I heard the Qanon Shaman say it the other day. People at the rallies say it all the time. “Do you really think 80 million people voted for Biden?” Yes. Yes I absolutely do. I swear they somehow think that 90% of America loves Trump because they won’t leave their echo chambers. I worry that people expect a repeat of Jan 6 2021 but with a more prepared law enforcement response. But instead it’s going to be a mess of legal cases and appeals. When a pivotal case goes to the Supreme Court and they get to decide between Trump or a Democrat administration that has vowed to reform the court’s corruption, and after a few years of breaking precedent without giving a damn, can we trust them to make the right decision? I blame the supposed "fourth estate" the media could have ended Trump's campaign run a seemingly infinite number of times but they didn't. Sure I am not a fan of media conglomerates deciding who should be president but if they report the facts as is then Trump would no where he as popular as he is today.  I hope boring is the next thing after weird calms down. The chances of this are reduced greatly the wider the margins are. Do all the voting things (register/verify registration, vote and make sure your friends and family can vote, don’t get discouraged by lines or any other oddities while voting, make sure your ballot is not altered with misplaced stickers or other marks).

2024-08-13 19:59:17

The 2024 Election if only Reddit could vote

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Title: The 2024 Election if only Reddit could vote Body: Top Comments: The pedo loving Trump fans are mad. Younger voters lean left. More tech savvy voters lean left. Reddit posters mostly fall within these categories. Most people over 50 lean right and have a higher rate of voting. Most people under 40 lean left and have a lower rate of voting. If every single eligible voter in the US voted, democrats would perform much better than they have in most recent elections. One thing boomers do right is to exercise their right to vote. Thing is Reddit is more representative than our Rural Affirmative Action voting system. Ridiculous that Wyoming, with a population of a small city gets three electoral college votes, for example. Or if you don’t support insurrectionist traitors. Should be pretty clear cut, but here we are. What we definitely know is that Wyoming is a state. A small state. And it’s next to Colorado, which is a bigger state. And Colorado wants to invade Wyoming. And that’s bad. It shows how liberal this site is, that is all. [deleted] You need to unburden yourself from what has been, so you can become what will be. Cackle….cackle…. I'd wager that it's not even as liberal as most people think. There's an enormous amount of Republican Redditors who simply don't discuss politics because they'll get downvoted to hell. Space is all around us That’s my go to response for trump supporters. I didn’t know so many people were pedo sympathisers. It’s literally just that more people live in urban areas, that’s what makes them urban. So true, according to Reddit alone, it’s not even a race anymore as Harris is a sure winner. At the risk of getting downvoted, I hope that’s not true. I've been saying it for a long time that on most major issues, the US has two right of center parties when compared to other advanced countries. There has been a campaign to stomp out liberalism and worker's rights forever. Hell, they dropped bombs and poison gas left over from WWI on striking miners in Appalachia (see: Mother Jones) and there hasn't been a real communist or socialist party for generations despite the constant rhetoric. I think most centrists are not pro abortion, but they are pro government stay out of the exam room and mind your own business This needs more upvotes than I can give. Almost all right wing talking points start from a place of misinformation and or dishonesty based on this particular reality alone. "The radical left" yea compared to who??? From my experience, individuals in urban locations vote more left and people who live in more rural areas vote right. Many voting maps will show a similar pattern as well. My guess is individuals who live in more urban areas are more prone to using social media (such as Reddit) throughout their day. And it’s exciting! All that vacuum…. Exactly. Redditors are full of shit and can downvote me all they want. No way in hell I’m voting for Kamala Drove through Wyoming last week. 90% of the state is a barren wasteland. Only thing going for it is Yellowstone and devils tower.

2024-08-13 20:30:28

Trump Setting The Stage For a 2024 Election Challenge by Claiming Harris Candidacy is ‘Unconstitutional’

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Title: Trump Setting The Stage For a 2024 Election Challenge by Claiming Harris Candidacy is ‘Unconstitutional’ Body: Top Comments: Go away... weird old man with ugly hair. …who’s also a criminal. Also, a rapist and a pedophile. Felony rapists running for office should be unconstitutional. Being under indictment for 40 felony counts of stealing classified government documents should disqualify you from being a county clerk, much less POTUS There will not be a suit heard in any court based on her candidacy. MAGA swallows the bullshit but judges tend to be a little smarter. Only an alleged pedo. But a convicted felon and a proven rapist, fraud, and defamer. Donald Trump hates America. He also thinks his voters are stupid. Remember in 2016 when Trump said Clinton being investigated for felonies should disqualify her? And how having a president that was a convicted felon would be a disaster? Pepperidge Farm remembers. “Why is it unconstitutional?” “Well, she’s black” That’s their entire argument *Judge Qanon has entered the chat* I'm so fucking sick of this man. I wish he'd shut up I can’t argue with that Oh yes, let him try the courts. Been working so well for him lately. With Trump, everything is rigged or unconstitutional, UNLESS it favors him. ✔️ Check your voter status. Vote 💙💙💙 https://vote.gov/ "BECAUSE THEY FORCED BIDEN OUT!" is one I've been hearing a lot. Which is wild, because aren't they the ones that hate Biden more than anything? Shouldn't they be happy that Biden is not in the race? “But is she Indian or is she Black? Because she was Indian. And then she turned… Black. And now she’s black” trump at the NABJ….. 🙄🫠 That would be great. He can show us on the constitution where it says that. It doesn’t. President Biden has stepped down after winning the primary and has asked that his delegate votes go to Vice President Harris. The Constitution only outlines the selection process, leaving the specifics of candidate selection to political parties. Not only is there nothing in the Constitution that prevents a primary winner from stepping down, this situation is not without precedent. Historically, parties have faced similar situations and managed them through their own rules. In 1972, Democratic nominee George McGovern’s vice-presidential pick, Thomas Eagleton, stepped down after the nomination, and McGovern replaced him with Sargent Shriver. In 1912, after the death of Vice President James Sherman, the Republican National Committee replaced him with Nicholas Murray Butler. In the current scenario, it is up to the Democratic Party and the delegates to honor President Biden’s request. Delegates, who are pledged to the party’s candidate, would typically follow the party’s direction and cast their votes for Harris. This process is well within the party’s rights and aligns with how the delegate system functions. Edit: Originally and mistakenly referred to delegates as "electors." That's not the right word. Electors are for the EC. Delegates go to the Convention. Thank you to those who pointed that out. When instead of being able to say "don't vote for my opponent, they're bad" all you have left is "okay my opponent is not bad but they're not allowed to run", you know you're screwed. He doesn't even know what's in the constitution, he can't fucking read.

2024-08-14 19:13:18

The 2024 Election if only Reddit could vote

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Title: The 2024 Election if only Reddit could vote Body: Top Comments: The 2024 election if land couldn't vote Texas is already revoking voter registration cards in blue districts. I see Jordan Peterson memes is exactly as funny as I would expect it to be. This isn’t totally accurate. There would be a small corner where flaired conservatives only would practice free speech. Until you say you're voting for RFK Jr like Joe Rogan and Kyle Rittenhouse. Then they'll try to cancel you. We should work on ending first past the post voting in favor of multimember districts for the House, and something like score, approval, or RCV for the senate and executive offices. The two party system is the problem. I heard that there are efforts to mass spam challenges to registered Democrats voter registrations Nah Jeb would win We'd all clap as requested https://www.dallasnews.com/news/elections/2024/08/05/texas-voter-suspense-list-tops-21-million-heres-what-to-do-if-youre-on-it/?outputType=amp Yes! Austin, Houston, Dallas, El Paso and Corpus Christi are blue areas they’re targeting. It’s totally legal since Greg Abbot gets to make the laws How anti American of the put America first crowd Correction it says 21 million on the link but it is actually 2.1 million mostly in blue districts.Now everyone go vote please! I don’t care if you vote for Trump but please vote and make your voice heard! I support Kamala. Do not engage in any kind of violence Rural population was 95% of the population in 1787. [Yes, urbanization in 1790 was 5%](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_in_the_United_States). It wasn’t about rural/urban. The Industrial Revolution wasn’t a twinkle in any of these old men’s eyes yet. It was about big state versus small state. Not rural versus urban. That’s just modern people projecting the way that setup helps their interests onto the framers. It’s (mostly) satire/parody. There are some lost conservatives who get shat on occasionally Not to mention this meme was originally posted on this sub, got clowned on, and now OP is cross-posting it again from the Jordan Peterson memes sub. I swear, there's like one conservative post in this sub every day that reaches the top while every other top post is making fun of conservatives. I wonder why... Electoral votes / gerrymandering Billionaire oligarchs > peronist Marxism Pick one This is not true. If the electoral college weren't a thing (I assume that's what you mean by this comment) there would still be a large swath of red states. However, this would be moot if we did popular vote because it would be a national vote count that decides the president and it wouldn't matter who wins which states. We also need to expand the size of the house. Due to capping its size and a minimum of one member you have representatives that are wildly different in size. This is also part of what biases the system to smaller states. That's not entirely correct in the USA. The right has moved the goal post so far to the right that moderates are now Marxist and commies. When I was growing up we used to joke about politicians being to the right of the Pope. Now if you ask republicans the Pope is a commie. Our left has shifted very far right, and it's still not far enough for some.

2024-08-16 18:22:24

My 2024 election prediction (updated)

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Title: My 2024 election prediction (updated) Body: Ok I wasn’t really paying attention earlier and made mistakes but this is my actual prediction. Top Comments: It’s ok to dream but only sweat will get us there. NC I have flipping. The Harris Campaign is targeting NC extremely hard, Joe Biden in 2020 dipped his toes in the water there a few times, but not to the extent Harris plans to. Plus Trump as an incumbent republican president barely won it with 49.5 percent of the vote, that's barely making the cut. NC is very winnable, especially with the GOP Gubernatorial candidate, and Trump not having the energy to campaign like he did in 2016 and 2020. I also think Roy Cooper being able to go to bat for Harris will help, in 2020 he had to play it neutral, because he was running for reelection, but now he's able to go to bat for Harris and the Democratic Gubernatorial candidate in Stein as well. Plus the DNC head of the state Anderson Clayton is like some 26 year old who has been going all out getting college students and young people registered to vote there, like Stacey Abrams did in Georgia with young college students and Black communities. The Big cities in Raleigh and Charlotte, similar to Georgia have had a massive influx of younger people moving there as well the past few years. That I feel will help tip the scales in NC, just like with Atlanta and Savannah in 2020 for Georgia. I mean it's the 2020 map so it's not crazy Pretty sure the Dems will pick up the electoral vote that comes with Omaha. Honestly, Georgia is iffy. This map is pretty much what happened last election, but with updated electoral distribution after the census. I also got NC flipping blue. It’s the 2020 map minus Nebraska’s 2nd district  Asheville is all in on Harris Walz. Fuck that bloviating racist windbag grifter. Betting on NC flipping as well. Will wake up super happy when it does. The vast majority of people around me are voting blue.💙 You're forgetting the EC vote out of Nebraska. It's been an easy Democratic pick-up for a while now. I live in Mecklenburg County (Charlotte), only 10% of registered voters, vote. If we can increase it to 30%, we can change the election. We are reaching out to registered voters that haven’t been voting. People in my county have been canvassing since Tricia Cotham flipped. I feel energy that I’ve never felt here before. Man, I'd love to see GA go blue again. I would be so proud. Atlanta was a party when Biden won. It was surreal and such stark contrast to when Trump won in 2016. I can't wait to early vote again. P.S. Sorry about MTG. I don't care how many electoral college votes we win, as long as it's at least 270. Trump did himself no favors by dissing both Brian Kemp and the governor’s wife on his last trip in Georgia. They’re trying to but it hasn’t happened yet. Thank goodness! My wet dream is getting Florida I would to stop a dictator. And if we don't sweat and toil enough, it will take blood. There's no doubt in my mind that magats are going to actually kill people when trump loses and their whole narrative of him being chosen by god collapses. They threatened it and Maine threatened back. Nebraska backed down. not for a politician, but for the fact that if trump wins the us is going fascist dictatorship real quick. Biden only lost NC by a 1 point difference.

2024-08-17 18:30:39

Pennsylvania is slipping from Donald Trump’s grasp — Kamala Harris gains ground with crucial Hispanic voters in swing state that could decide 2024 US election

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Title: Pennsylvania is slipping from Donald Trump’s grasp — Kamala Harris gains ground with crucial Hispanic voters in swing state that could decide 2024 US election Body: Top Comments: Trump forgot he was in Pennsylvania the other day and referred to the audience as North Carolina. But his supporters won’t pay attention to that because it’s a cult. He insults Hispanics and still gets Hispanic support. He insults anyone he can think of from any community or group and still gets support from those groups. We have too many idiots living among us. Way too many. As a male Hispanic voter in Pennsylvania, she absolutely has my vote and my wife's vote! Also my Hispanic neighbor and his wife as well. This state will not be Trumps'! When you give into the "Trump didn't mean that!", reality can be whatever you want. The man who "tells it like it is" never says what he intended... Inter-Hispanic racism is a huge thing PA is probably the election, so this is a good sign. Supposedly Trump is currently outspending Harris on ad buys in PA, but Harris is said to be ramping up there also. I’m in PA. He’s not going to win here. Going to be close to double digit loss. 45-55 or thereabouts. I live in the Philadelphia tv market. We get lots of ads but it seems to be a roughly even Trump/Harris split. The different tone to each candidate’s ads is pretty striking. Trump’s are about fear: immigrants are an existential threat to the country, immigrants who were imprisoned committed violent crimes after Harris directed their release, and she’s too liberal in an unspecified way. Harris’s ads talk about her growing up working-class, her optimism for improving people’s lives, and how her work as attorney general was tough on crime. From your lips to the Electoral College's ears. White supremacy is also a HUGE thing in latin american countries/cultures. For example this famous painting from a Brazillian artist in the 1880s [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Reden%C3%A7%C3%A3o.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Reden%C3%A7%C3%A3o.jpg) (edit alt link [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham%27s\_Redemption](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham%27s_Redemption) ), depicting a darker skinned grandmother celebrating the gradual whitening of her daughter and grandchild through continued procreation with lighter skinned individuals. Many countries also had what were effectively racial caste systems based on how white your complexion was or the level of Spanish ancestry in your family. Racism and colorism are still very alive today, not even getting into the Catholic elephant in the room. My area of SE PA currently has 80-90% less Trump yard signs than 4 years ago. I think voting for Trump has finally become embarrassing. That doesn’t mean they won’t vote for him though. Donald vowed to build a wall to keep Mexicans out while calling them rapists and gangsters. the fact that he has ANY Hispanic support is appalling. It's not as bad as it was then, but it still persists. It's also not even just a colorism thing, it's a national stereotype thing. Mexicans and Central Americans are perceived as submissive workaholics. Cubans are perceived as scammers and low-class. Puerto Ricans are perceived as thugs and drug abusers. Venezuelans are perceived as effeminate. Argentines are perceived as racist elitists. Brazilians are perceived as horny fucks who will cheat on you. I'm Hispanic so I'm basing this on what I hear other Hispanics say about different nationalities. I haven't heard anything negative about Colombians though. The thing is neither will the “Biden totally gots Parkinson’s ferreal” media though. Trump forgets what state he’s in deserves at least half the headlines of “Biden calls VP Trump”. Yea those are the true believers. Or in my case the neighborhood Nazi. Who has his swastika flags in the windows of his garage. It is nice to know who has the Nazi vote in my local elections though. PA and MI are the two biggest swing states. So, yeah, that’s the election unless one candidate sweeps all the other swing states. PA is always a battleground that gets inundated with ads every election cycle. People are generally very politically opinionated on one side of the other. There aren’t a lot of swing voters and turnout is always high. I think it was like 74% in the 2020 general election. It really is all about voter turnout here and scouring for those extra couple votes and recruiting the “suburban white women”, the stereotypical swing demographic, to your side. From the bottom of my heart, thank you! I can't imagine what would happen to the country if Trump gets in again. Were we better off after four years of Trump? No! Want another four years like those four years? I sure don't. It’s almost as if more and more people of all types are starting to agree openly he’s a pos Not really. USA citizens who happen to be Hispanic do not necessarily want illegal immigrants either. Assuming someone would be fine with illegal immigration from the southern border just because they are Hispanic is actually racist IMO. USA citizens who live near the borders (majority Hispanic) see the consequences every day - including from cartel violence. Trump’s toughness on the border is one of the reasons Hispanics like him.

2024-08-18 13:19:02

Don Lemon goes to the street and asks folks about the 2024 election

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Title: Don Lemon goes to the street and asks folks about the 2024 election Body: Top Comments: I liked the guy who laughed at Lemon and told him that he was watching too much CNN. “Ackshually the economy has been better under Biden” Moment Do you watch CNN? He was fired from CNN, imagine that. I can't stand Lemon, but I give him credit airing the pushback. I wouldn't be surprised if more said Trump and were edited out. You really just can't trust any media these days. "I'm going to ask your opinion then tell you why your opinion is wrong." Journalism. "I made more money then than I do now!" "Well no that's actually not true, that's not what the economy shows!" Wtf That was too perfect the way the guy laughed in his face. The fact that he tried to tell that guy he was wrong about how much money he made under Trump vs under Biden is crazy to me. Like, it’s his paycheck! Don lemon is an idiot. Best part The guy literally said he earned more money 4 years ago. He doesn't give af about whether the economy is better or not. Even if everyone got 10-20% increase in salary over the last 4 years, they would still be in a worse position due to inflation. Imagine still shilling from CNN after you get fired from CNN. What a cuck. Who you gonna trust, me or your lying bank statements? Yep, he went in ready to regurgitate an agenda and didn't even listen. This is a perfect example of that, how would he know how much that guy personally made and in what years? Nice to see you can take him off CNN but can't take CNN out of him. 🤣 Some great people there who just want better lives and are fed up with the lies. What’s really sad is I was making $21/hr in 2021, I’m now making $29/hr and it feels like I got a pay cut when you factor in how much more expensive everything around me is… I just got word that by the end of the year, my car insurance is going to be 54% more expensive than it was last year… I guess breakfast is a luxury I can’t afford anymore.. already said goodbye to lunch two months ago "I made more money under Trump than I do now under Biden." "tHaT's NoT wHaT tHe FaCtS sHoW" "Trust me, I know your financial situation better than you do." One of the biggest complaints in all of Reddit that is non-political is, they can't afford to live or buy a house. It is funny that they want to vote for 4-8 more years of this, too. That was unbelievable... I don't give a single fuck what economists say when I KNOW my COL has gone up 40% in 5 years, lol.

2024-08-18 18:52:56

Why the 2024 elections won't be stolen, and why your posts about it don't help

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Title: Why the 2024 elections won't be stolen, and why your posts about it don't help Body: Things have certainly taken a turn for the positive lately in the political world. Democrats are [casually raising nine figures of donations a week, over and over.](https://observablehq.com/@rdmurphy/actblue-ticker-tracker) Polls, for whatever they're worth, have gone from [grim](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/biden-trump/) to [great](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/) at the top of the ticket. Recent elections have shown [Democratic priorities winning big in swing states](https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-election-primary-amendment-hovde-baldwin-fe7b7aa8ffa75b171d109f416b3f312b), rejecting GOP-authored Constitutional amendments by 15 points in Wisconsin just last week. Everything is suddenly pointing to some major wins. So, needless to say, we need a new reason to panic. And that's been "None of this matters, because Trump and his allies are going to just steal the election!" Let's break this down, just as the title says: ##**Why the 2024 elections won't be stolen:** The short answer is that every tactic being floated was already tried in 2020 - when Trump was in office, when Republicans had more control over election certification in swing states, when the same six conservative Supreme Court Justices were on the Court, and when Trump had his people in the Department of Justice. They all failed. Let's take a closer look at some of the more panic-inducing theories: * **"Republicans will refuse to certify the election results!"** If that happens, [states have ways of forcing them to certify.](https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/what-happens-when-election-officials-refuse-to-certify-results/) Rogue officials can be [ordered to certify by the courts](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/17/politics/new-mexico-primary-results-otero-county-certification/index.html), face fines or prison time for refusing to certify, and even [be removed from office.](https://apnews.com/article/election-certification-officials-removed-north-carolina-77bc8b7016277eb090dad38b9b11c687) Notice how in these stories, election deniers talk a good game about overturning results until they're staring down potential prison time. [See pg. 8-9 of this document for more examples - the whole document outlines effective legal remedies for refusals to certify quite well.](https://protectdemocracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/PD_County-Cert-WP_v03.1.pdf) * **"Republicans will use the courts to overturn the election!"** No, they won't. [Republicans filed 62 lawsuits challenging the results of the 2020 elections, and lost every last one.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election) They got one temporary victory in Pennsylvania that was ultimately overturned by the State Supreme Court (and, fun fact, that judge [was defeated when she ran for PA Supreme Court in 2023.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Pennsylvania_elections#Justice_of_the_Supreme_Court) Voters don't like this stuff). What's more, since 2020, Democrats have gained control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court and Court of Appeals, the Michigan Supreme Court, the Pennsylvania Superior Court, the Arizona Secretary of State's and Attorney General's offices, and the Nevada Secretary of State's office. And that's before we get to the 205 (and counting!) federal judges appointed by Joe Biden. Trump's going to have to win these lawsuits with a much less friendly bunch of officials in charge. * **"Trump's Supreme Court will just hand him the election!"** See above. The same six conservative judges were on the Court in 2020, and they tossed every one of his lawsuits. Now Trump's not the incumbent and doesn't have the resources of the Department of Justice at his fingertips, either. * **"Republicans will use Congress to overthrow the election results!"** [I'd like to introduce you to the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Count_Reform_and_Presidential_Transition_Improvement_Act_of_2022) This expedites any lawsuits around certifying the election in case local officials want to gum up the system, clarifies that courts have the power to overrule attempted steals by corrupt Governors, and limits the grounds that the House and Senate can use to throw out results. It's much harder than before - and if we can win the House and Senate, it'll be impossible. * **"But I heard Georgia's elections board is going to ruin everything!"** I'll leave aside the fact that Dems can win the House, Senate, and Presidency without Georgia for a moment, and point out that actually, they won't ruin everything. They might claim irregularities in the results and try to gum up the certification process - so we take them to court and make them certify. Using that expedited process in the Electoral Count Act of 2022, of course, and federal judges who are used to dealing with this nonsense from 2020. They might suppress the vote through closing polling places and purging voter registrations - well, they've done that for decades, and we still beat them in 2020 and 2022. The big theme of this is that when it comes to voter suppression, [you can beat it by getting out the vote.](https://www.mobilize.us/georgiademocrats/) We've got lawyers who are ready for nonsense. ##**Why your posts and comments about it are the real problem:** * **If people think their vote isn't going to count, why would they bother voting?** They certainly won't canvass or phonebank, things we need to do if we're going to win. People won't take part, or give it their all, if they think it's all for nothing. **If enough of our voters get discouraged and don't vote, or don't encourage others, Trump won't have to steal anything - he'll just win.** And that'll trickle down to other important races. I can already say I've had to talk people out of dropping phonebank shifts because of fears that races will just be stolen. * **There's nothing average people can do.** That doesn't mean there's no solution - [Kamala Harris and the DNC have hired an enormous, seasoned legal team to fight attempts to steal the election.](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/8/17/2263891/-Harris-Walz-Campaign-Legal-Team-is-Ten-Times-Bigger-than-Biden-s-was-in-2020-Hires-Marc-Elias-too) But if you're not one of those lawyers, you can't do much to help. And people know that. So it makes them feel hopeless and check out in general. * **Dealing with misinformation takes time.** I'll refrain from making cracks about the length of this post and simply say that I'd rather be sharing [how to register to vote](https://iwillvote.com/), or [how to volunteer for candidates in swing districts](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jxO8g7q9VO3ZMAABcrvR7PMyX4Yl6dgIYhD3eRTKk1M/edit?gid=0#gid=0). The only thing you can't get back in politics is time, and we'd all rather spend that time on making sure we win. * **"Just sharing information" and "I feel anxious about this" aren't valid reasons to post this stuff.** Period. Your 'information' does nothing except make people less likely to vote or volunteer, and you're not going to help your anxiety by posting - in fact, you're going to spin yourself up even more, and drag others down with you. The solution for political anxiety is a) talking to a mental health professional who's qualified to help you, and b) taking action. Political anxiety comes from a lack of agency over something important, like an election. But you do have agency and can help win. Not by posting, not by making snappy comments online, but by [talking to voters and helping Democrats win.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jxO8g7q9VO3ZMAABcrvR7PMyX4Yl6dgIYhD3eRTKk1M/edit?gid=0#gid=0) If you're worried that your vote will be stolen, read this post again. It won't. But if we lose, it won't matter. Feel free to share this post anywhere, and to invite people over to this sub to get involved. We can win - not just for President, but also the Senate, the House, state government, local offices, and ballot measures. We can build a better America together, and the GOP can't steal it from us. It's our effort, our hope, and our strength that can win any election, and bring about the world we want to live in. Shake off the lies, and use the next eleven weeks to work for democracy, together. https://www.mobilize.us/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jxO8g7q9VO3ZMAABcrvR7PMyX4Yl6dgIYhD3eRTKk1M/edit?gid=0#gid=0 Top Comments: Doing the good work, right here; this post was so deeply needed. Thank you for taking the time to put all of these resources and the pertinent info in an *easy to disseminate* format. If you're anxious about election fraud, I highly encourage you to sign up to be a poll worker! You'll learn so much about the checks and balances in the system that make it nearly impossible to rig an election with fraudulent votes. And you'll be right on the front lines of helping to ensure our free and fair election process. https://www.eac.gov/help-america-vote Thanks for the well researched and thought out post! I would very much like to hope 2020 was the greatest peril and the USA dodged it (barely), but we shall see. The "Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022" is absolutely key here. It's legislation we should never have needed, but due to Republican brand bad faith politics it is now necessary. It is an Act no one really knows about that saved this nation from a certain manufactured constitutional crisis the Right was building up to. There will not be much fanfare around it as it works behind the scenes, but those who came up with it and got it in place in a timely manner are absolute heroes. The only threat at this point is the Supreme Court, who can essentially reimagine any of this...they have given themselves far too much power with recent rulings, and that needs to be addressed VERY soon before being further normalized. This needs to be our focus for 2024-2028. The only good thing to come out of 2020 was that they kind of showed their hand. I've heard a lot of people say '2020 was their trial run', and while that's true, it was our trial run, too. We succeeded, and we shot down all their efforts in 2022 and 2023. But that's for the legal experts to take care of. We've got to take care of winning the election so their services are needed in the first place. Next do a write up on constant hand wringing about “complacency”. That's an awesome idea - can't believe I didn't think of that! Thanks! I’m like the most skittish person on the planet, but I’ve made write-ups like this one explaining why our election isn’t going to be stolen. There is no way that Kamala wins the votes needed to win the electoral college and doesn’t end up in the White House. Yes, the fact that it was so easy to read and understand is going to help a lot of panicky readers. I could be flippant and say "Well, it's a good thing we have the current SCOTUS and not 2000's" (I won't because this SCOTUS is a nightmare on most issues). But the real point is that the only reason they could do anything in 2000 is because Florida was so close. Winning Georgia by 12,000 votes meant there was no room to screw with the results. Gore's Florida victory would have been in the hundreds, so there was room for challenges. "But what if 2024 comes down to a few hundred votes?" [Well, let's not let that happen. We can influence the outcome by volunteering.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jxO8g7q9VO3ZMAABcrvR7PMyX4Yl6dgIYhD3eRTKk1M/edit?gid=0#gid=0) Also, go to states like Georgia, Florida, and Texas and organize to fix their election laws. If Texas adults (52% in 2020) voted at the same rate as California voters (~70%) it would be a reliable blue state and effectively lock out Republicans from the presidency for a generation. Totally agree. Panic energy isn't helpful. All energy needs to be on helping people register to vote, check that their registration is up to date, and on getting out the vote. Turning the upbeat mood into real numbers is the single best use of time and energy. Poll worker here… YES, PLEASE! We need you! It is a great job and you will love it! Another benefit: since you'll be prohibited from discussing politics, too busy to doomscroll your phone for hours and hours, and materially contributing to the election process, you'll feel way less stress and anxiety for the entire day! This is exactly the quality post that I need to see. The basic gist of it is that 2024 is going to be a fair election and there is almost nothing Republicans can do to steal it because they have less power than they did in 2020. Also one thing that table fireplace didn't mention is that the Harris Campaign is going to be very well suited to dealing with election irregularities. They specifically will have voter protection hotlines to help navigate people through the voting process, they have official lawyers to file lawsuits as well as volunteer lawyers helping voter protection at the local level. GOTV is also specifically structured to enable any reports of irregularities to be flagged immediately so lawyers can be dispatched. Knocking on doors isn't JUST about convincing people to support our candidates it also helps deal with irregularities on an individual level and provides a key way in which we can learn about situations as they come up. >The only threat at this point is the Supreme Court, that was the only fear the SCOTUS, because they did decide our fate in 2000; they will feel it's well in their wheelhouse again. All absolutely true and needed to be said. The only caveat I would add is that Dems really do have to get out the vote because if the worst happens and Trump does win, we can be sure that they will make every effort to enable future steals by dismantling any protection they can. I needed to hear this, and you're right. Let's stop posting about the election being stolen. Let's win this! Saved this. Thank you.

2024-08-19 12:02:43

Trump served notice by Michigan AG to not even try to 'subvert' the 2024 election results

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Title: Trump served notice by Michigan AG to not even try to 'subvert' the 2024 election results Body: Top Comments: Hoping more AGs will join her. My bet he already has plans to At least SOMEBODY sees this as inevitable. He WILL try to subvert the results. And SCOTUS will look the other way. I guarantee him and his cult will try that shit again What a brave woman! All these amazing brave women are doing things the men in the Republican Party could not do… That’s why it’s important to have both good men and good women in places of influence, to balance things out and team up to protect the country. I hope more states join and follow these steps too🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 The fact that Trump is being sent this.. and that he's still able to be running to be POTUS is what's really upsetting. You mean storm the capitol? I'd love to see them try. The difference between Jan 6, 2021 and January 6, 2025 is that now Biden will be president on that day, not Trump, so he cant tell the national guard to fall back. They will likely be out in full force and ready to arrest some MAGA jackasses before they even get a foot in the building. Throw the book at him this time I thought the plan leaked from the Trump campaign was to challenge all sorts of individual polling stations on election night to draw out the count and make it more difficult to certify. The shenanigans will start long before Jan 6. While Harris will be certifying her own victory, I’m sure they’ll have PLENTY of armed police in riot gear with live rounds. Go ahead…fuck around and find out. Vote blue! Look the other way? scotus will actively help him. His biggest plan is to create chaos and uncertainty in swing states - he only needs one - and get the scotus to decide who won (like in 2000 with Gore and Bush). And they will do their parts This is why Kamala needs more than a win, she needs a landslide so there’s no doubt. (And even then, I’m worried) Why wouldn't they? No action on it means you're being rewarded for it. They're being actively incentivized to try it again. Our "justice" system is a complete fucking embarrassment. Use it on him like ya do with a bug. Sad a candidate has to be told something like this. But he has proven himself to be a criminal. We’d be lucky if SCOTUS looked the other way. Or what? Without consequences there’s really no discouragement. Yet he will try and it seems no authority has the will or power to throw his ass in jail. I’ve been waiting for years and years for him to suffer some serious consequences for his innumerable idiocies and actions. But little has come of any of it, as far as I can tell. All that chaos behind the man, and still not behind bars. That’s the plan, but because they were so fucking stupid, I’m sure there’s gonna be safeguards in place.

2024-08-24 17:43:58

Trump served notice by Michigan AG to not even try to 'subvert' the 2024 election results

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Title: Trump served notice by Michigan AG to not even try to 'subvert' the 2024 election results Body: Top Comments: Michigan isn’t playing around, they’re setting clear boundaries It’s like the state has been going to therapy and learning some new coping mechanisms and self-care. I’m so proud of where we are right now. It feels like we’re invincible. We can’t get complacent. VOTE! >"How worried are you about Donald Trump and his allies trying to repeat what they attempted to do four years ago?" host Phang prompted her guest. >"I think it is probably his number one strategy, honestly," she admitted. "I really don't see him making an effort to try to convert undecided voters. More than that, what I see is these efforts that are already in place here on the ground in Michigan to try to subvert the election through illegal means and, to really try to enlist as many Republicans on the ground as possible, whether those are poll workers, whether those are local clerks, whether those are party activists." Dana Nessel is freaking awesome. Only time in my life I've ever actually appreciated an attorney general. Go get'em girl! So proud of our Democratic leaders I didn't realize that Nessel represented the plaintiff in the case that overturned Michigan's ban on gay marriage. That case was later folded into Obergefell v. Hodges at the US Supreme Court where gay marriage was made federally legal. While fighting for her own right to get married she met her current wife. After the SC decision, she asked the judge that overturned the Michigan ban to officiate the wedding. That's as Lifetime Original Movie as it gets. I consider Whitmer, Nessel, and Benson our "Big Three" in recent years. It's been amazing and really empowering to watch Clearly he isn't trying to pull undecided voters with his constant stream of verbal diarrhea. By this point you either love him like the Messiah or hate him like a piece of shit stuck to the bottom of your show We need Jocelyn and Dana to follow Gretchen's path. I hope they are thinking the same. Isn't he past due for a stroke or something? This is 100% spot-on, and every single state should be actively preparing for Trump and the GOP to create chaos on election day. [removed] And it’s all result of killing gerrymandering. If politicians have to listen to the people good things happen Yes but I also want him to be behind bars first He's going to try anyway. He feels entitled to victory. Michigan is rich with excellent politicians right now, such a great time to be a Michigander I think she handled it perfectly in her DNC speech. Hamas is a terrorist organization, October 7th was a horrific terrorist attack, the treatment and mass murder of Palestinian civilians is horrific, there needs to be a cease fire RIGHT NOW, and the two state solution is the path forward, Israeli settlements in the West Bank are illegal. Meanwhile you have Trump that is actively attempting to kill a cease fire deal, and is on record saying "Give Israel everything they need to fix the Palestinian problem once and for all." If you see any Palestinian protesters that are anti-Harris and pro-Trump, they are likely being paid by Russia or Iran, and they don't really give a shit about Palestinians. She is such a badass! It is amazing how we’ve elected such a fantastic group of politicians. Whitmer, Peters, Nessel, Benson, Slotkin (next US Senator?), Tate, Gilchrist, Brinks, Witwer, Koleszar, Anthony, Hertel, Camilleri, etc. Even Pete Buttegeig lives here now. Kudos to all that did the work that helped make that happen, to get people to vote for all of our outstanding Michigan politicians. They better keep an eye on that POS MAGA traitor Tim Walberg that helped Trump try to destroy democracy and the legit votes of Michiganders in 2020. I'm sure that waste of skin will be doing all he can to subvert the election again in November if his orange god loses.

2024-08-24 19:12:59

Still not convinced the 2024 election is Harris vs. Putin?

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Title: Still not convinced the 2024 election is Harris vs. Putin? Body: Top Comments: So if it's Putins brainworms controlling him does this make Putin Kahn? Also trump laundered all the stolen money when USSR collapsed. In the 80s trump and Rudy Giuliani got involved with Russia. Russia had stolen 12-14 billion from newly freed states which included Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan. Anyway, long story short, trump started laundering the stolen money for Putin and other Russian billionaires. Hence why he always hated Ukraine (first impeachment was over Ukraine, trying to fuk them over). All his casinos (didn't fail or bankrupt from bad business but because they had to run them off books and close them down before they got caught) laundering money for Russia. Trump has been an anti democracy anti American person his entire adult life. And yet somehow becomes POTUS. Truly the weirdest saddest chapter in America's history second only to slavery. I hate a lot about this idiot, but his stupid skinny ties are right up there  What does Putin have on Trump? https://i.redd.it/6uz9ifvmetkd1.gif Do you think we will ever know the full story about Trump and all of his crimes? I think the only he’s running for POTUS is to stay out of jail.  He is. Trump is only running for POTUS so that A) He gets to stay out of jail, and B) To yank the US out of NATO so Putin can steamroll through Europe and take over the continent as a whole. If we get 1/4 of the full story, I’d be surprised With his plump swollen face/head he looks like a balloon. Two words: **PEE TAPES.** People like trump that are against our allies and that support nations hostile to America should not be allowed to run for office. Comrade Kennedy, you have relatives rolling in their graves. We always knew Trump was a traitor, but a Kennedy….fuck. Worm ate the wrong part of his brain. I don’t know if Putin can militarily any longer, given how weak his military has looked against Ukraine. Ukraine has now invaded Russia with little pushback. Putin really screwed up invading Ukraine and showing everyone how weak his militarily was. But there is always the threat of nuclear weapons. This is an unfair comparison. Khan is a much better leader. trump owes putin $400 million. That we know of, who knows it’s probably more Don’t forget the documents case that was just overturned. It’s rumored the CIA has lost half its foreign assets after Trump asked the for the list a few days after privately meeting with Putin. It’s also rumored he stole nuclear secrets in order to sell to KSA/Russia under a proposed business venture with Kushner/Flynn/Trump. When US govt said “no” to the deal, they stole the documents. IF TRUE, that is traitor shit. Cannon/Trump/Flynn/Kushner(?) are TRAITORS. The P in Pee tapes is not about Pee. There's many people in MAGA world and the white Christian Nationalist party who are furious that the US got involved with Ukraine and got NATO to pull together. What say you Tulsi Gabbard? 🤔 the trump entourage is mostly people whose lives peaked in the eighties (look how they trot out hulk hogan for example) so the skinny ties make sense.

2024-08-25 13:19:35

Donald Trump warns Mark Zuckerberg he will face life in prison if he commits any illegal acts during the 2024 election.

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Title: Donald Trump warns Mark Zuckerberg he will face life in prison if he commits any illegal acts during the 2024 election. Body: Donald Trump has warned that Mark Zuckerberg will “spend the rest of his life in prison” if Facebook illegally influences the outcome of the US presidential election. - [Source](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/08/29/donald-trump-jail-zuckerberg-interferes-us-election/) This follows Zuckerberg [admitting](https://x.com/judiciarygop/status/1828201780544504064?s=46&t=lyUkewqrOx_z4p8M2W3EIQ) that he censored information at the request of the Biden-Harris administration. Top Comments: He was gonna jail Hillary too but guess he never got around to it It's ok, he will just download himself into another body He then learned that the president doesn’t actually have the power to just imprison people they don’t like, because this isn’t the fucking Soviet Union or some third world shithole This just motivates Zuckerberg to make sure Trump does not get elected. What a 3d chess move. [deleted] According to what, some unnamed book by some unnamed source? Literal definition of bogus news report. Zuck and Facebook are a Pentagon covert cover. See LifeLog. They both have the same year of discontinuation and establishment. Zuck is a made guy. Friendship ended with zuck , Elon is my new friend [removed] Maybe his "body" is just a remote controlled drone, and his mind is already in the cloud. Like he jailed Hilary Clinton? To be in power. Because then he can start going after those multi-million dollar govt contracts to funnel taxpayer dollars into his private businesses Same with Google and Amazon. After the Iran Contra Affair, Congress caught on to the fact that the CIA had been selling drugs since WWII to help Chiang Kai-Shek and to fund guerrilla armies in France and Italy to combat a potential Soviet invasion of Europe (Operation Gladio). Under Paul Helliwell and E Howard Hunt, they used Civilian Air Transport to move heroin from southeast Asia to Sicily and later France, where the Italian mafia would distribute it, and launder the money through the Vatican Bank. Communism was an existential threat to all three groups, so they worked together. When the communists took over China, they moved their heroin operation to northern French Indochina (modern day Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam), where the locals fighting the French funded their army by selling heroin to the CIA. The Soviets wanted to stop the CIA's source of black money, so they funded the communists in North Vietnam to stop their heroin operation. We fought the Vietnam War so that the CIA could keep control of the opium "golden triangle", where 95% of the world's opium was produced at the time. After the Vietnam War the CIA was left in the cold in the opium trade and needed a new drug, enter cocaine from South America. And then eventually in the 80's when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, heroin production largely moved to Afghanistan. After the Iran Contra scandal, congress made them stop selling drugs, and give up their Italian mafia partners, thus the fall of the Italian mafia in the 80's. The illegal drug trade was then taken over by the Russian Mafia, who were largely Russian jews from the gulags, who in the 70s Nixon let a bunch of Russian jews into the country, and the Russian Mafia set up shop in Brighton Beach, NY. The Russian mafia was the perfect in road for the CIA into the Soviet Union, because they also hated the communists. So they worked together. And after the fall of the Soviet Union, they're the ones who took over. Anyway, after the CIA "left the drug trade" (I think they skimmed off the top of the Russian-Israeli mafia), they entered the legitimate business world to fund their blackbook operations. Think investment banks, phone companies, etc. Then they said hey this Arpanet could be used in the real world to make some online businesses, easy money that just operates on a server, and it allows us to surveil everybody. So they released the internet to the masses. The summer before Google was founded, Sergey Brin and Larry Page were working on a DOD project for a search engine. Bezos's grandpa was the head of DARPA. These two companies, along with Facebook and many others, are just CIA front companies. Shit getting real for Zuckerberg and im here for it It's a classic sales technique; over promise, under deliver. And the DOJ can say no, like they did with Trump multiple times. Now the GOP’s handlers are trying to change that Oh, now you guys like when a government official blackmailing a citizen? [removed] Google : zuckerberg donates 400m Forbes :   https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2023/04/18/elon-musk-spreads-misleading-claim-about-mark-zuckerberg-donating-millions-to-get-biden-in-office/ > Musk is referring to September and October 2020 donations totaling $419 million Zuckerberg and his wife made to the Center for Tech and Civic Life and the Center for Election Innovation & Research, nonprofits dedicated to aid in-person voting. Ah yes people physically voting are democrats and mail-in ballots too. I always find it funny to dismiss lies that easily provable.  I know, you will probably answer to this with the FGA article about it. I'm fine with that, let's read their sources together, it will be a good laugh and maybe the start of a new friendship ! Some might even say 'fake news'.

2024-08-29 14:05:02

Trump pushes GOP to shut down government just weeks before 2024 election

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Title: Trump pushes GOP to shut down government just weeks before 2024 election Body: Top Comments: Don’t we have like… really good data that government shutdowns exclusively backfire on republicans in polls? You think data matters to Trump? His whole thought process is to hurt people unless they give him what he wants. Vote for me and I will let Congress keep the government open. He is trying to hold the USA hostage. I hope he manages to do it, too. Make every incumbent Republican look like a stooge. Right before the election. At the start of the holiday season. Everyone in the country who is liberal or independent knows and believes that the Republicans killed their own border bill just to please Trump and try to hurt Biden. It was solely so that they can run on anti-immigrant. So why does Trump think he is going to increase support by shutting down the government? NO one thinks that it will be Biden's fault, and NO one on the left or in the middle are stupid enough to say, 'OK, I will vote for Trump so that the Republicans won't shut down the government again. At this point, it's 'let me win or I will not only refuse to play or change the rules, I will destroy the game'. Republicans already look like stooges on a national and international level. Time to finally vote these fucks out > OK, I will vote for Trump so that the Republicans won't shut down the government again. I'm wondering when the "we don't negotiate with terrorists" messaging will start to come out of the Dems. Trump is a domestic terrorist. He's been making them look like stooges right along. Hasn't seemed to affect his polling so far. Trump orchestrated the longest shutdown in American history, and he wants the do-nothing GOP to do it again? He's really flailing, isn't he? It is past time. All this guy has is chaos and division. Facts and data are for the libs Like a bratty kid who flips the boardgame off the table because he's not winning. PSA: Undocumented immigrants make up only 3.3% of the United States population, despite what the GOP tells you. "Reality has a well-known liberal bias." Brings to mind: “Never play chess with a pigeon. The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over. Then shits all over the board. Then struts around like it won.” (Can’t take credit. Multiple sources. Easily Googlable) > Right before the election. At the start of the holiday season. His last shutdown, the second in 2018\*, backfired on him so spectacularly that he had to make the most expensive McDonald's/Burger King run in history to feed the Clemson Tigers visiting the White House, because with the government shut down, White House kitchen staff weren't there. And this was after hilariously lying that he'd own the shutdown if *his* border wall didn't get funded; guess who he immediately blamed for the shutdown? Yep, the democrats. Because this fucking child can never own up to a mistake or ever admit to even making one, although he *did* name one of them after himself.   -- ^\*Republican ^voters ^wanted ^him ^to ^run ^the ^government ^like ^one ^of ^his ^businesses, ^and ^he ^did ^exactly ^**that:** ^the ^government ^shut ^down ^in ^January ^2018 ^and ^again ^that ^December. ^He ^finally ^followed ^through ^on ^a ^campaign ^promise! Fully agreed So are his supporters: https://tips.fbi.gov/home Several thousand Scaramuccis past time Yeah, he would. Sounds like his play to stop the bipartisan border bill because it would have made Biden look good.

2024-08-31 11:39:41

Trump pushes GOP to shut down government just weeks before 2024 election

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Title: Trump pushes GOP to shut down government just weeks before 2024 election Body: Top Comments: I can’t wait until this fucking bum is nothing more than a bad memory They’ll lose the House, and maybe not pickup the Senate. Citizens will lay this 100% on the GOP and it will effect down ballot voting. I hope so, but The American people are fucking stupid. I can't help but think that a not insignificant portion would blame Democrats. Texas makes a good example, Republicans have been in charge of it practically my entire life yet the average Texan still blames Democrats for their problems. He’s going to be one of those miserable old fucks who lives forever and only causes problems. Seriously it will be Trump on a scooter with a hair system in 2028 running again because the GOP can’t get rid of him now that they’ve contracted with him. Yep. Need to say this early and often. Trump once again fN with policy from the sidelines and costing people money. First he did it with the Border. Now he is doing it with the overall govt. Obama said it right, "count the times Trump says, ME." I'm a native Texan, 53 y.o. and I believe the R.O.T. (Republicans of Texas) are to blame for ALL of the serious problems we have here. The last good governor we had was Ann Richards. It all has gone completely downhill since the election of W. Stereotypes about Texans are not helpful. There are plenty of democrats in Texas, and we don't like it when you lump us in with people who support the R.O.T. in our beautiful state. Yeah, knowing both his parents lived well into their 90s and neither were exactly paragons of healthy living is what keeps me from yearning for the wrong hamburger to do their son in. He’ll probably make it to 95 and be a pain in the ass every second until then. And Israel. Every government employer should already be voting for Harris. Every government retiree should be. If they aren’t they haven’t read Project 25 and how they are going to lose their jobs. Harris is running to become president Trump is running to stay out of prison. Yeah that’ll surely help you win over voters, shutting down the government and hurting them. I hope they do. It will wipe the GOP from Government. The fact that there's a non-zero chance it could be president again is mind blowing. Alternatively, your republican friends could vote Kamala. My republicans friends already said if he convinces them to do this, they ain’t showing up to vote Just as Samson, Trump is prepared to pull down the temple if he doesn't get his way. And there are folks out there who think he gives one rancid shit about them. [deleted] Nah, he’s at Death’s Door. That’s why the dipshit he picked as running mate is such an issue. Even the real Republican strategists know they’re in trouble because he’s not going to make it through 4 years. Bibi totally fucked himself and gott some of his own hostages killed listening to Trump and now the Israeli people are going bananas in the street and Trump doesn't give one fuck.

2024-09-01 21:27:29

Trump's 2024 nightmare: Women voting surge could elect Harris

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Title: Trump's 2024 nightmare: Women voting surge could elect Harris Body: Top Comments: Trump waffling on abortion positions has to become a commercial playing on a loop on every media format possible. Make it inescapable. Any woman should have decided against Trump in 2016 when the truth came out on who he was. It definitely should. Look at everything about the MAGA platform. Bragging about killing Roe v Wade, and flip flopping like a fish out of water on abortion. Then selecting JD Vance who I'm pretty sure 95% of women would be repulsed by if they only knew him. It's not just Trump (looking at State legislatures, governors and courts). The rallying cry across America should be: "Republicans will force you to keep the rapist's baby." As as cis white man who has watched a lot of other cis white men online bitch constantly about being alone, it's somewhat astonishing to me that the current male strategy of "doing whatever women don't want and doubling down on it" is the leading strategy. Like, I get that young white boys be feeling abandoned, but I guess I'm just old fashioned when I think that means they should, yknow, try to do the things that won't get them even more abandoned. Republicans want to know when you're menstruating. Republicans want to inspect your genitals before you can use the restroom. Republicans want you to need your husband's permission to attend political rallies. Women voting in their own best interest. So they can have control over their bodies and protect their families. A vote for Harris is a vote for stability, lower prices and access to health care - that is a pro-family agenda. Every time Vance opens his mouth, I keep wondering how on earth he even got any, let alone got married. I've never seen a more blatantly misogynic candidate in my life. He opposes no-fault divorce in abusive marriages, rejects abortion exceptions for rape, and described working moms as bad parents who want to “shunt their kids into crap day care so they can enjoy more ‘freedom.’” What century is he living in? [Vance agrees that raising grandchildren is ‘whole purpose of postmenopausal female,’ unearthed audio shows](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-children-women-audio-b2596492.html) I’m a straight white male and all I gotta say is “hell yeah!” Women are pissed and have every right to be. Because some women have the exact same misogynistic beliefs. His wife (another Yale lawyer btw. Hillbilly my ass) clerked for Kavanaugh and Roberts. On 2, go a step further on this one. Republicans want to inspect your minor child’s genitals if they don’t think that they look feminine enough to play girl’s cabbage ball with their friends. Well their algo driven red pill bullshit content tells them their take is spot on. One of my favorite arguments for a trump voter back in 2016: "He's a businessman. He's going to run the country like a business." First of all, such a ludicrous reason by itself, but I always found it laughable because his track record in business was filled with so many failures. Vance literally said he wants to remove their right to vote and only allow "households" to vote. These fucks, I am a man, but if you are a woman and voting for Trump, it's basically like voting for a leopard to eat your face I would think a lot of men would be pissed at the thought of supporting a child for 18+ years that neither of you want to raise. And with Trump's advancing health issues, there's a very real chance that Vance would be POTUS before the end of 2028 100% agreed. I just want to remind everyone that government does not work as a sweeping change mechanism within 4-8 years. Don’t think that electing Kamala for one term will solve all of your problems. Consistently supporting politicians that uphold human rights and equality will create a better future. I want to see everyone voting in their primaries. Vote in the upcoming general election. Them vote again in 2 years. Until hatred and bigotry have no place in decision making. Are things gonna be perfect for you? No. We’ll always have a struggle or fight to fight. But these Nazis need to be taught a lesson and be voted into obscurity forever. Kamala is a great second step in healing. Give her a house and senate to solidify human rights for all Americans forever. “Anything but therapy and bettering ourselves” is the rallying cry. WHAT!!! You mean constantly degrading them, taking away their rights of bodily autonomy, and promising to remove all other rights ISN'T a winning strategy with women? Knock me over with a feather. The Trump/Vance ticket of misogyny is probably driving more women to vote than the fact Harris is a woman.

2024-09-03 12:33:18

US seizes Russian websites used in bid to influence 2024 election

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Title: US seizes Russian websites used in bid to influence 2024 election Body: Top Comments: They seized X? [deleted] This is actually huge news. Tim Pool and co. are literally Russian agents. I'll take a wild guess here, but they were all Pro-Trump. Their content gets posted on the conservative sub a lot... This is kinda wild. I just saw a post with a tweet from Benny Johnson about how Tim Walz's entire family hates him. Was wondering wtf is Benny Johnson and then immediately come here and find out he's possibly a Russian plant. Crazy coincidence. Is that the the social media platform that used to be called twitter? It's notable that this is just one part of a multifaceted effort on the part of Russia to fuck with our elections. They're all over social media. It's pretty ham-handed work on Russia's part too. I still call it Twitter. I'll dead name that until the day I die... Of course. I wonder if Trump will weigh in on this or if he'll be asked about it in the debate. Red pills will claim government censorship lol [deleted] If he can deadname his daughter I can deadname his website Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin, Steven Crowder pissing themselves right now Of course. Although Russia has been known to pump disinformation into the Far Left too. That's how you end up "progressive" commentators who hate everything the Democratic Party does and they try to influence Democrats with apathy so they don't vote at all. It's definitely not as bad as it is with the Right, but they definitely are trying to sow division any which way they can. They literally won't care. Russian troops could storm the capital and they'd welcome them with open arms if it owns the libs. Russia has been working to influence US public opinion for a long time. Although this particular effort is clumsy, I'd be willing to bet there's a lot less obvious stuff going on as well. > The action also targeted two employees of RT, formerly known as Russia Today, a Russian state media outlet with content available in English, charging the duo with violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act. ... > ... Deemed “Doppelganger,” the Russian effort employed a mix of creating sites with slightly different web addresses that mimic U.S. news outlets, including one appearing to be The Washington Post, and are plastered with pro-Russian narratives. It also created other media brands to funnel Russian content. Well, finally Wray and Garland seem to do something about crime in (almost) real time, instead of long after the fact. Now look at all the other insane content like that. No doubt many are also Russian plants. Can they seize Russia’s presidential candidates as well? Donald Von Shitzinpants… Jill Stein… am I missing anyone?

2024-09-04 18:40:47

US accuses Russia of 2024 election interference

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Title: US accuses Russia of 2024 election interference Body: Top Comments: Hey! Russian here. Not sure if it counts as an interference, but since we're apparently doing it anyway — please do the world a favor and vote for Kamala Harris. A Treasury official meanwhile said that RT and other Russian state media had engaged in a "nefarious campaign to covertly recruit unwittingly American influencers in support of their malign activity". > nefarious campaign to **covertly** recruit **unwittingly** American influencers Yeah, totally covert, completely unwittingly. Not a single person suspected this or called them out for this before. We've all been taken completely by surprise by this. /s Honestly the only shock here is that the powers that be finally unlodged their thumbs from their asses and started actually taking action. My favourite line from putler a while ago was when he was like “Hey u know Russia actually prefers Biden to win!?” Buddy guy discovered reverse psychology. Russia does this often - they even hack US infrastructure like these [recent cyber attacks](https://wisdiam.com/publications/recent-cyber-attacks-water-wastewater/). But why Tennessee? In favor of the far right. This shows you who Russia thinks will weaken America. Vote accordingly. This is like getting mad at a cat for chasing mice. Russia is gonna Russia. Do something about the people who took the money. It's a Republican stronghold, they know they have allies there to downplay/coverup the real story That is exactly what they are doing. [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-tenet-media-right-wing-influencers-justice-department/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-tenet-media-right-wing-influencers-justice-department/) Give these snakes and rats a trapdoor out and they'll skitter for it the moment Uncle Sam turns on the lights. What, you think the NSA doesn't have extra eyes on 'em? I sure hope this investigation extends to Twitter and Elon Musk :) So strange cause he recently said the algorithm shows you what you interact with, but I don’t remember signing up for a rampant increase in Russian propaganda this past week. Monitoring spies and criminals is pointless unless there's action taken. The amount of action taken vs the damages caused has been pathetic. I mean, personally (mostly for your own sake) I would've prefer Bernie or a proper socialist candidate to win. It's a little unfortunate that in the voting system you employ you have to vote strategically, having to also consider how others would vote. >How widespread is support for the invasion? Wouldn't know, dude, sorry. I'm a secluded schizoid, I don't engage with people much. No people in my circle support it, but it's not a huge circle and I had to cut a few people out of it after the first days of the invasion . >How hard is it to find information that isn’t propaganda? Not difficult, if you're actually searching for it. Get a vpn and don't use Russian for your search queries — that's it. You'd still have to sift through some propaganda (it's kind of a fact of life, you can't fully escape propaganda), but not the overt Russian propaganda at least. >Am I actually too harsh in my sentiments about russian soldiers? Nah, you're good. Imperialistic invaders should fuck right off and die. Good day to you too. Slava Ukraini. You called it: [https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1f9j1dd/putin\_claims\_russia\_will\_support\_harris\_in\_us/](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1f9j1dd/putin_claims_russia_will_support_harris_in_us/) How about my own eyes? I watched live tv of those freaks rioting up the capital steps and crawling up the walls and through the doors like rats. I saw them pounding on the doors and attacking police officers. And I saw this go on for hours. Hours that President Trump didn't deploy the National Guard to round them up. And they only did cease after Trump finally came out to tell them to go home. He wanted them to disrupt things so that he could hold on to power. He's scum. And if he truly didn't know, then he's weak. Manipulated by his administration and too cowardly to protect our representatives in the capital. Because all he had to do was call in the National Guard. He doesn't deserve a speck of consideration for President. And timely too! I got a feeling the scale and scope of all the interference will be unravelled over a long time if we see a Democrat govt. Trump tried to overthrow our government with a coup. What the fuck does her positions matter? Great find! Now they should seize all their assets in the banking system that have been frozen. But they won't. They're only going after the source. They should also go after the traitors who spewed this vile bullshit as innocent Ukrainian citizens were being brutally raped, tortured, kidnapped and murdered.

2024-09-05 09:00:14

My prediction for the 2024 US election: Democrats 308 Republicans 230

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Title: My prediction for the 2024 US election: Democrats 308 Republicans 230 Body: Top Comments: It needs to be decisive to overcome the MAGA deniers. For this to become a reality, people need to VOTE. Not ready to concede AZ despite what this map suggests. Dem Governor, one Dem Senator and a US Senate race where The Hill and 538 polls have Gallegos leading by at least 6% over that nutjob Lake. And that lead has been grown for over the prior three months. Harris and her team need to invest money and time there. The Lincoln Project should be airing their stinging ads out there on network TV/MSM. AZ is winnable I say. See I think we’ll get NC. The GOP gubernatorial candidate is so unpopular I think his presence alone will discourage Republican turnout. Plus so many unpolled and newly registered voters in that state favor Harris. Arizona too has the abortion initiative on the ballot (which influences higher turnout) and Kari Lake, noted crazy person and also so unpopular I have trouble believing Harris is as far behind Trump as the polls suggest. AZ also has abortion rights on the ballot this year and that has been a strong indication for high democract turnout. Unless things are really close I feel good about AZ going blue this year. It’s not a bad map. Let’s make it happen by voting blue y’all! I think that is impossible. MAGA will deny any Harris victory. Best to prepare for that eventuality rather than hope to prevent it. IMHO flip GA for AZ. I was just in AZ last week and I saw MORE anti-Trump signs and only 2 anti-Democrat signs. (Note I said Anti-Trump and not Pro-Harris and Anti-Democrat and not Pro-Trump.) Also do not underestimate Alaska, the new ranked choice voting is gonna give us a surprise. I live in AZ. The AZ GOP is run by a bunch of morons who couldn’t win their way out of a wet paper bag. Meanwhile the AZ Dems are actually pretty smart. Trump isn’t gonna win this state You need Arizona. It has abortion referendum. Look no further than the last presidential election for how that plays out. If GA had been a matter of 200 votes instead of 11,000? What if GA was enough to change the outcome by itself? A narrow election is extremely easy to steal. A landslide with multiple swing states makes it extremely difficult to steal. They will of course try no matter what. They're fascists and traitors, that's what they do. But there's no reason to make it easy on them. You're free to prep however else you like,but putting in the work to ensure a Democratic landslide is the best way to not need any other remedies. tl;dr: voting IS preparing for that eventuality, and even more so doing volunteer work and donating to various Democratic candidates as well. Very optimistic here. I think we’ll have AZ, not NC Yea Kari Lake is polling a good amount below Gallego. I can't see them splitting the ticket enough for Trump to win especially with abortion on the ballot I'd love Texas or Florida to go blue as well as a final kick in the balls to MAGA, but that is most likely wishful thinking... :/ For the record, I want a landslide more than anything. If I had to chop off my right hand for a landslide Harris victory, I would be a lefty in more ways than one. But MAGA will absolutely still dispute it. They’ll claim that a landslide shows obvious cheating, that there was no way Harris was that popular, etc. I read an article (I think Politico, please someone check me) that some Trumpists expect him to win 80-20! Part of their delusions is that they represent the majority of Americans. That’s why calling them weird hurts them; because it shakes that belief. We can’t expect them to break out of their delusions. Best we can do is put in the legwork, vote in a blue wave, and prepare for their backlash. Yes but if it’s a landslide MAGA will have no argument. Fight the fight! Tell all your friends to vote blue. He cannot be elected if we want to preserve our fragile democracy. She could get all 538 and they’ll still say she cheated. We have one here too in FL. Also weed! We went for Obama twice. Just sayin. North Carolina is honestly looking more likely than Arizona with recent polling. Then there’s the down ballot voting too which is big. If any swing state is flipping, it would be GA. They have no other races to draw out further turnout, nor any candidates to drag down the GOP ticket like Kari Lake is in Arizona. Gallego is running a pretty reliable campaign that polling shows has little chance of losing, with Kari Lake being an unpopular candidate. The unfortunate shooting yesterday may sway people in GA a bit with how badly Kemp and the GA GOP have been responding, but based on circumstances prior to yesterday GA seems like the only state that might not go blue. But those complacent MF's need to put down their remotes, Xbox controllers or crackpipe and vote!

2024-09-05 15:15:49

Trump announces plan for Elon Musk-led ‘government efficiency commission’ | US elections 2024

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Title: Trump announces plan for Elon Musk-led ‘government efficiency commission’ | US elections 2024 Body: Top Comments: Judging by how ‘efficient’ twitter and tesla are doing, I’m not sure that’s a good idea So in other words, replacing civil servants who are Republican, Democrat, or independent with Nazis and yes-men. If it's as high quality as the CyberTruck, then pieces will fall off, and repairs will take a minimum of 2 weeks due to parts not being available. Trump’s Ministry of Propaganda. Trump thanks Elon Musk for the donation. Elon Musk thanks russia for its donation and for partly buying X. But no russian interference on US politics of course :) As has been demonstrated in previous presidency. By efficiency he means cutting any rules and regulations that affect his companies Fill your cabinet with people who most of us despise. Brilliant. The party of small government will always be the party of steal everything that ain't nailed down. The same Elon who holds massive government contracts? I doubt that’s even legal. And frankly his companies are usually always on fire. And he treats his workers like slaves. So yeah no. Trump loves a good yes-man. Yup. Efficiency to fuck everyone else over. American Apartheid It’ll match trumps wall or slats??? lol My head hurts from the sheer stupidity of the both of them. Govt will be “up to spec” just like Tesla car defects and problems. Musk is as a big loser as Trump. Oh yeah, can't wait until he gets America to run like the fine swiss watch that has become **x.** Look how bad Truth Social has gone...in the dumpster. Trunt turns everything to shite! Legailty has never stopped Trump from trying anything.

2024-09-05 22:24:00

A historian who's correctly predicted 9 out of 10 elections says Kamala Harris will win in 2024

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Title: A historian who's correctly predicted 9 out of 10 elections says Kamala Harris will win in 2024 Body: Top Comments: Let's put the Trump cult down for good this November.....VOTE. If the SCOTUS had stayed out of it. Gore may have won. I still have a bad taste in my mouth the way that went. They should have counted all the votes! Exactly! Each vote is a statement. Even if the polls showed a landslide (which they don’t!!!), you want to ratio that MF to oblivion! Remember remember that Roger Stone was in Florida in 2000 explicitly threatening physical violence on poll workers so that ballots wouldn't be counted. Roger Stone. The guy that Trump pardoned. Just f**k’n VOTE BLUE! Forget the pundits. Ignore the headlines. Tune out the bullshit. Get registered. Double check your registration. VOTE! This! Even in a red state, your state may still be red but I want to see DT absolutely obliterated in the popular vote to crush his ego and that of the maggots even further. Doesn’t matter. Vote for her if you want to make it happen. No complacency. The Brooks brothers riot, I remember it well, his goons rushed the room where the recount was taking place, effectively ending the recount. That was the trial run for what happened on Jan6th According to Jack Smith, Trump staffers allegedly reused the same play in Detroit in 2020. [“Federal prosecutors alleged in a court filing Tuesday that a campaign employee of former President Donald Trump "encouraged rioting" to obstruct the counting of votes in Detroit after the November 2020 election.” - Detroit News 12/6/2023](https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/06/trump-staffer-allegedly-urged-rioting-obstruct-detroit-absentee-vote-count-tcf-center-2020-election/71828795007/) I vote in Idaho but my (D) presidential vote counts more in Colorado than it does here. Please Google the National Popular Vote Compact. It is very exciting. 1. Register to Vote 2. Sign up for an absentee ballot 3. The week before Election Day, double check that you are registered 4. FUCKING VOTE I wish it was for good, but they'll shove his ass out there again in 4 years if hes still breathing, they'll weekend at bernies his ass if they have to They failed really hard in that attempt. Thankfully. If they had done the recount, Gore did win. Scalia and gis fellow Republicans gave it to Bush. Thomas, Alito and the other Republican four will hand it to Trump if they get the opportunity. 💙💙🌊🌊🌊VOTE BLUE🌊🌊🌊💙💙 Seriously, vote like your state election is Floridas 2000 election all over again. States can come down to less than 1,000 votes. Thanks for sharing about the Compact. I had no idea this is a thing and it’s heartening. Still going to vote no matter what. That's good but we still have to show up and vote blue to save America from Donald Trump and his minions. She obviously will and they’re all sore losers I encourage them to do so. Should be a super easy victory. 

2024-09-06 13:50:14

MMW Orange 45 will lose the 2024 Election in a Landslide

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Title: MMW Orange 45 will lose the 2024 Election in a Landslide Body: Top Comments: That would be nice. I wish I had your confidence. Yep. He's done. Polls are showing Harris has all the key leads. By a long shot. Outets have an interest in portraying a tight race, so the leads are probably even greater than reported. Just look at all the ammount of Republican officials that have ditched him. 10/11 members of his own government won't endorse him. Now imagine the electorate. He cultivated a base of conspiracy nuts that he can't court while also appealing to the middle. There's a non-zero amount of people that think the vaccine that he developed was a literal holocaust. That'll matter. Too much of his campaign funds are going to his pockets and his legal fees. Harris is out raising him, and out spending him by 70-90% margins. He's just not the guy he was in 2015. He's older than Biden was when he started calling Biden too old. He looks extra old next to Harris. He can't undo his first term. He's not the outsider anymore. His first term didn't shake up the system like his voters wanted. It was blah. No promises kept. No wall paid for by Mexico, no new health care plan, no manufacturing jobs back, etc. etc. What kinda sucker would believe him again? Weed and abortion will drive turn out. High turn out = bad for Repuicans. Abortion will switch voters. Lots. He'll get less votes than he did in 2016. ~58-60m Maybe less. Harris will get on par with Biden in 2020. ~80m. Maybe more. He's cooked. MMW. You gotta vote to make this happen. Trump is gonna try a lot of fuckery. This 100% this. Vote every single person go vote. Women will come out in droves to help destroy MAGA and the traitor Vote! Tell your friends. Better yet, have a party and everyone goes to the polls together. The boomer generation and their worldview, that woman do not count are dying off in droves. Sorry grandpa, time to put you in a box in the name of progress. VOTE HARRIS I’m voting. I live in NY though. I can’t really control what PA does. Does anyone remember the red wave last time? No, me either because it didn't happen. What I do see is a lot less Trump flags in rural North carolina. I see Trump with his same tired bullshit. I believe he will be destroyed in this election, and we can move past him finally. I do think they will find a worse candidate next time someone who is smart. Can you imagine if Trump had any intelligence at all. We would no longer live in an America that we would recognize he would be king. That is the scary part to me. The electoral college heavily favors republicans. It's pretty fucked. Kamala could win by 10 Million votes and still lose this election. I believe she has a slight advantage, but am worried about Pennsylvania, which could throw the whole thing to Trump. Election reform is badly needed, and I hope that it will be a priority of the Harris administration (if it exists) to have the Presidential election winner be the person who gets the most votes nationally. It's the right thing to do. Every voter's voice should have equal weight whether they live in Los Angeles or Missoula. Currently, empty land has a stronger voice than Californians or New Yorkers. Are you underestimating our United States of stupidity again? I am afraid I will need to see to believe on this one. Call your local DNC and volunteer to drive people to the polls. There's never enough drivers. Us GenX people don’t have landlines either. It’s just the boomers now. Yep, I answered a poll recently. First, I don’t pick up random numbers but was waiting on a contractor so thought it was him. Turned out to be a pollster. Asked me a lot of questions but I noticed one thing for sure, they ask questions in such a way that you’re thinking about both candidates’ vision as somewhat ambiguous and feasible for the country. Some questions were on a likert scale and worded with double negatives - essentially asking “do you not, not like Trump?” Long story short, if you’re not in the know about all of his shenanigans, the polls make Trump seem like any other normal candidate. They are made to fool the shit outta most people. Makes sense since the media needs to make this seem like some sort of back and forth NFL playoff game. But like I mentioned I don’t pick up random numbers. I think it’s normal in millennials and gen Z not to so you know the polls are largely sampling Gen x and boomers who lean more towards the republicans. It’s gonna be a landslide. I think even Florida might be in play this time around. I've been polled twice. Lied about who I'm voting for just to help Trump's campaign have a false sense of security. I'm in PA. I'm registered to help the Harris Campaign and do phone / text banks. Also, not only has trump disenfranchised women, women of color especially, there has been a [surge of new registrations to vote](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kamala-harris-voter-registration-pennsylvania-b2608493.html) in PA. No, but you can ensure your down ballot democrats win as well. I too live in NY and many of the areas near me have democrats and republicans on the ticket, so you can ensure you vote the whole ticket. Trump turned out to be the “swamp” he vowed to drain. His support now is limited to the half-wit mouth breathing dead enders. People in other states can volunteer to phone bank call to people in swing states. If you are like me living next to a swing state, I volunteer during election day to shuttle people to polling stations. If nothing else, you can give to various groups that are funding candidates in swing states.

2024-09-07 07:19:40

[OC] What if the 2024 UK General Election was held under the German electoral system?

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Title: [OC] What if the 2024 UK General Election was held under the German electoral system? Body: Top Comments: No criticism of your post but with a different electoral system, many voters would have voted differently. Wouldn’t a bunch of those parties not meet the German minimum threshold? This looks more like what would happen in a Dutch style straight up proportional system. It would have had an enormous impact on a range of things from whether voters voted or not, how voters voted, how parties campaigned, if they campaigned together or not, if those same parties would even continue to exist, etc. Basically, whenever these sorts of things are done, it is always done ceretis paribus. Depends if you count plaid cymru (and the other parties from scotland and northern ireland) as a Party of a national minority. There is no minimum threshold for them in germany. We have one MdB (MP) from the danish minority Party SSW https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Schleswig_Voters%27_Association?wprov=sfla1 What about if the last German election were held under the UK electoral system? There are exceptions for parties that get 3 (6 in this case) constituencies and parties for minority ethnic groups. Absolutely! People often use displays like this to argue that PR would be really dangerous because extreme parties like reform UK would do much better. However, I believe they stood a candidate in every seat many of who had no inclination or expectation of being and MP. There were questions about whether some of them even existed. That would massively inflate their vote. Meanwhile the liberal democrats focused their campaign on a number of target seats and possibly even had an agreement not to compete with labour, if that would mean the Tories getting in, which obviously would depress their national vote share. Germany is already split into districts with equal population. Out of the 299 constituency seats, the SPD won 121, CDU/CSU won 143, the Greens won 16, AfD won 16, the Left won 3, and the FDP won 0. Of course, Germans would also vote differently in a FPTP system. I believe the BVerfG struck that down recently, IIRC Hard to simulate that because you would need to split Germany into districts with equal population You're right. 30th of July. The rule stays in effect. https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilungen/DE/2024/bvg24-064.html Almost exclusively SPD and CDU/CSU, with minimal representation for the greens and the AfD, 3 or 4 seats for The Left and like literally no FDP. Ya, Mat Parker, stand up maths, basically pointed out that if you arrange districts by Lib Dems voting percentage and compare that to the same thing for Reform, they both are hyperbole but Lib Dems seem to have this bonus relatively straight section where they did best. It likely came from them playing the system. True but it shows just how fucked FPtP is as an electoral system. It would help the non-Brita reading this if you put the delta from the current results somewhere. > Fptp is designed to produce clear, strong governments that appeal to a broad cross-section of the overall electorate Works so well that FPTP based system have led to situation like 2017 UK, 2022/2024 France, or even 2022 USA. It just is demonstrably false it creates strong government with strong majorities. Yes, the Lib Dems are a lot better at concentrating their vote in regions where they can realistically win, whereas Reform UK just throws the kitchen sink and just votes everywhere, but very few places is it sufficiently concentrated to win a seat. This problem also hurt UKIP, and they knew it, but they were unable to overcome it as they are not professionals who know how to direct resources properly. The political vehicles of Nigel Farage have all lacked proper organisation. Though interesting nevertheless I think a disclaimer to emphasise that voters’ knowledge of the electoral system directly affects how they vote. If the 2024 UK General Election was held under the German electoral system, the results would likely have been substantially different. The 2024 election was almost a "task failed successfully" of accurate votes. On the right, people largely voted either Tory or Reform based off preference. Neither party had a chance to form a government, so voting Tory was a sign of support while Reform was the rightwing protest vote. On the left, the Greens served as the protest vote against Labour, a consequence of them drifting too close to the centre. The Labour and LibDem vote had a **lot** of tactical voting, however it was in a pretty balance for where the two parties probably didn't lose much overall vote support due to it. Unlike pretty much every previous election, there wasn't much overall incentive to vote for Labour and the Tories because they were the major party. While that came from a sense on inevitable victory/loss, the result is pretty similar to what a truer picture likely would have looked at. For the many reasons I've discussed that's far from perfect. Tactical voting in one election happening to line somewhat closely in one election means nothing, but I still find that the popular vote of this election gives us a pretty could view of would PR might look like in the UK. The results do look incredibly like a PR system. The two major parties got 34% and 24%, while the major parties trickled from 14%, to 12%, to 7%. That rule was removed with the Wahlrechtsreform 2023.

2024-09-09 17:03:46

[Wojnarowski] In a letter sent to the NBA’s Board of Governors and obtained by ESPN, Knicks owner James Dolan continues to take issue with the league office and tells teams that he’ll vote no on the league’s proposed operating budget for 2024-2025 and the election of a new BOG chair.

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Title: [Wojnarowski] In a letter sent to the NBA’s Board of Governors and obtained by ESPN, Knicks owner James Dolan continues to take issue with the league office and tells teams that he’ll vote no on the league’s proposed operating budget for 2024-2025 and the election of a new BOG chair. Body: Top Comments: He doesn't like the league's revenue sharing model because he wants more money for himself This is why Jerry Reinsdorf operates the Bulls and White Sox the way he does. Cause of revenue sharing. He feels that he can just suck or be .500 and make just as much as a team that spends and tries to win Anyone know what this means? He doesn’t actually advocate or “want” anything This particular structure he’s opposing would make him less profitable than an alternative, nothing else matters It’s James Dolan He doesn’t care about the league lol He wants the small market teams to take a smaller cut in favour of large market teams, like NYK? And the bulls fans too. They sell out all the games anyway so the bulls are hitting some real key metrics “Knicks are finally good, I want more money dammit!” Americans be hating on socialism until it comes to sports 😂 I was visiting a friend in Chicago last season and wanted to go to a game and thought I could just buy a last minute ticket. The only thing they had available was standing room only for like a hundred bucks a ticket. It was insane. It was against the Knicks Of course a Knicks game is going to be expensive in a city that has a lot of new York transplants. It won't be nearly as much when they play the Jazz or Hornets I have always found this to be down right hilarious. A country where people are willing to let others die rather than socialize Healthcare, but when it comes to their sport, they want everything socialized From revenue sharing, to salary caps, to rookie scale contracts, to calling for athletes to take less, just to build a better team, its just f**king hilarious 😂 😃 😄 Generally owners in the league are looking to expand the league and grow the game They make their money elsewhere and although this is profitable it’s not the main source of their income More or less. Revenue sharing means the bigger market teams are essentially bankrolling the smaller ones and giving away more money they earned. He also had an issue with the local broadcasting stuff I think. Dolan doesn't like revenue sharing. Basically, all the money each team makes is put together in a pot and split evenly amongst everyone. For smaller market teams it's a way to match up financially against bigger market teams. Dolan thinks "my money should be my money." For Dolan's argument, revenue sharing causes teams to be complacent and not caring about putting in a good product. Why field a competitive team which will in turn cause costs to go up, when they can fuck around and have the revenue sharing to fall upon? Against Dolan's argument, he's just being a petty asshole. There's also Dolan's issue with the league moving on from local broadcasting networks. Why does Dolan care? It's probably because he's the owner of the Knicks' local broadcasting station, MSG Network. More national broadcasted games for the Knicks means less for his network costing him money. It's pretty ironic. The most the team succeeds, the less he gets. Didn't this clown step down from the NBA board of governors last year in a hissy fit? But without revenue sharing it becomes harder for the small-market teams to continue operating at the level necessary of an NBA team Dolan: *"This ain't no commie basketball, this is good ol' capitalist with a capital C of the USA!"* I'll give you 3 guesses which team owner is the current chair. what happened with his dispute with the raptors? is he still in the not agreeing to arb phase That’s not true because the Bulls have some of the highest revenue numbers in the NBA so revenue sharing actually cuts into their profits

2024-09-09 22:03:26

How the 2024 Election Coverage Feels to Me

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Title: How the 2024 Election Coverage Feels to Me Body: Top Comments: "Ms. Harris, please accurately describe the economic policies of the last 10 Democrat presidents." "President Trump, if you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?" "Mz. Harris can you tell us more about the fiscal strategies you will use to further reduce inflation while ensuring that modest wage rises can be achieved, and taxation levels can be optimized to allow for growth in small businesses." "Mr Trump, how many legs has an elephant? And it's more than three but less than five." Blue I'd be a hotdog, hey Colin, if you were a hot dog, would you eat yourself? That’s correct there are the same amount of letters in the word Blue as there are legs on an elephant. Also, “what an incredibly rude question, not even an, how are you? Going straight to fake news dishonesty” 🤬 Trump is graded on a curve. Harris is expected to be perfect and if she isn’t, she is criticized. Trump is expected to be as knowledgeable as a 1st grader and if he is, he is praised I’m dreading this debate. Harris will have to be the personification of excellence for the media to not completely shit on her. And they’ll still try to pick something out. Trump will turn up, shit himself, talk absolute rubbish. And the media will just focus on how Kamala laughed too loudly, or coughed too much. As a non-American watching this all unfold, I am in complete disbelief. Harris could be blackout drunk and high on so much blow she can cover the Rocky Mountains with it, and she'd still be more coherent and professional than Trump on his best days. HOLY COW So wild how I haven’t thought about that in years but I immediately read your comment in will ferrel’s harry caray once I saw “hey Colin” “You look familiar, have I sexually assaulted you before?” Lmao Conversely, also, Trump could be blackout drunk and high on a ton of blow while Harris is stone-cold sober, but the cult will still say that Harris was the drunk and high one and that Trump annihilated her I’m not really dreading it. Peoples minds are made up. My mind is made up. I am frustrated I’ve never heard a good reason for voting for Trump. Never been given evidence. Never been given substantial policies. I am asked to “buy in.” The best argument (read: not a good argument) is that the economy was doing well under Trump. But of course, you have to make sure you don’t count the last 25% of his tenure. It’s Leslie Knope and Bobby Newport 3.0. Let’s be honest he probably would have said I blew up my toilet not say the word blues. And they’d say good enough. >the economy was doing well under Trump. Not because of any policies he put in place, it was the tailwinds of the Obama administration. Remember how he claimed that Obama was rigging the unemployment numbers but they were suddenly accurate the moment he was elected. People want to claim he lowered gas prices, but that was a byproduct of his failure to properly address the pandemic. He added more to the deficit in four years than any other administration, even ones that served two terms. Woman, man, camera, tv HEY! What's your favorite planet?! Mine's the SUN. It's like the KING OF PLANETS! Elephants have so many beautiful legs, and it's a disgrace what the elephants are doing to our country. You used to never hear about elephants and now they're - and by the way, they have trunks and they suck up all the water. Nobody knew elephants had trunks, but my uncle was a professor at MIT, very smart. But they have trunks. And the water was record clean under my administration. Now you can't drink water because of the sharks, and it's just terrible what Joe Biden has done to let all the sharks in.

2024-09-10 14:15:33

/r/Politics' 2024 US Elections Live Thread, Part 19

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Title: /r/Politics' 2024 US Elections Live Thread, Part 19 Body: Top Comments: Ashli Babbit was a domestic terrorist. “I have concepts of a plan”. There’s your soundbite. He has no actual plan. "I know Putin very well..." Yeah, we all know. https://x.com/marceelias/status/1833541181948760323?s=46&t=mj7JH76xzlbFPm3DaKApRQ NEW: State court DISMISSES Republican member of Fulton County Board of Elections lawsuit challenging her duty to certify election results. A win for Georgia voters and a big loss for election deniers looking to upend accurate election certification. Holy shit, he is getting absolutely roasted. You can tell it's getting to him. I can’t believe someone had to say “there is no state where it is legal to execute a baby“ Lmao, on PBS fact check, everything just says Trump makes FALSE CLAIM Trump makes EXAGGERATED CLAIM FALSE FALSE FALSE Fuckin CLOWN FEST this guy [deleted] Her expressions are giving auntie vibes, like "oh honey" haha Kamala pressing some of Donny's buttons _His rallies are boring, sad!_ [deleted] And THIS f …..ormer president “I have a concept of a plan.” It will be coming out after infrastructure week.  Turn off his fucking mic [Jill Stein kicked off the Nevada ballot. ](https://news3lv.com/news/instagram/supreme-court-orders-green-party-nominee-removed-from-nevada-ballot-jill-stein-presidential-campaign-election-voting-carson-city-las-vegas-reno) Pretty sure that helps Harris lock Nevada up. Ashlee Babs shouldn't have broken a window and climbed in the capitol Eating pets, transgender operations on immigrants lol She MADE HIM shake her hand 😂 Why are they letting him talk so much ? Can’t they turn his mic off ? Saw this yard sign today, flanked by a couple of American flags: I AM A VETERAN NOT A SUCKER OR A LOSER

2024-09-10 14:46:27

Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump

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Title: Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump Body: Tonight's debate is being hosted on ABC in the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia, and will be moderated by anchors David Muir and Linsey Davis. It is scheduled to begin at 9 p.m. Eastern and last for 90 minutes. The candidates' microphones will, under rules negotiated between the Biden and Trump campaigns, be muted in the absence of "significant crosstalk". The [full rules for tonight's debate can be found here on ABC's site](https://abc.com/news/5e38600c-4732-4cd2-a99c-3dedfa81beb0/category/1138628). Per [a recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/10/nx-s1-5106660/election-poll-harris-trump-debate), "Seven-in-10 Americans say they are going to watch the first presidential debate between Vice President Harris and former President Donald Trump on Tuesday, and 3-in-10 say it will help decide their vote". Tonight's debate is the only remaining presidential-level debate scheduled for this cycle; the Vice Presidential debate between Minnesota governor Tim Walz and Ohio senator J.D. Vance is scheduled for October 1st. **News and Analysis** - AP: [The Harris-Trump debate becomes the 2024 election’s latest landmark event](https://apnews.com/article/harris-trump-debate-tuesday-6ad8c03f6bf1ae88870b7db26276236e) - ABC: [5 things to watch for in the high-stakes Harris-Trump faceoff](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/debate-day-5-things-watch-high-stakes-harris/story?id=113523064) - CBS: [Harris v. Trump CBS News poll: Ahead of debate, here's what voters are saying about the candidates](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harris-trump-poll-before-first-debate/) **Live Updates** Those wishing to follow along with the debate through text-based updates can find them at any of the following outlets: [AP](https://apnews.com/live/harris-trump-debate-election-2024-updates), [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-debate-abc-09-10-24/index.html), [ABC](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-harris-2024-presidential-debate/?id=113525682), [CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-harris-first-debate-2024/), [NBC](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna169722), [The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/live/2024-presidential-debate-analysis-donald-trump-kamala-harris) (soft paywall), [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/09/10/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump/) (soft paywall), [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/10/us/harris-trump-debate) (soft paywall), [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/10/debate-trump-harris-2024-live-updates/75145043007/), [CNBC](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/presidential-debate-live-updates-trump-harris.html), [WHYY](https://whyy.org/live/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump-philadelphia-constitution-center-delaware-primary-live-updates/), [MSNBC](https://www.msnbc.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/harris-trump-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna170176), [The Independent](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-time-tonight-b2609991.html), [Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/live/presidential-debate-september-2024), [The Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024) (paywall), [The Huffington Post](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/2024-election-live-updates_n_66db15a1e4b0abbb7b4491c1), [Politico](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/09/10/trump-harris-presidential-debate-tonight/watch-debate-online-00178409), and [the BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c9wjn8py59jt). Additionally, [NPR will be streaming live audio coverage of the debate at this link](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/09/nx-s1-5106053/debate-harris-trump-listen-live-watch). **Fact Checking** - AP: [Fact Focus: A look at false and misleading claims as Trump and Harris meet for their first debate](https://apnews.com/article/debate-harris-trump-fact-focus-abortion-crime-0e368102d38d87d708a8a497a38f4fb2) - PolitiFact: [Do you know Trump and Harris’ talking points? Prep for the presidential debate with fact-checks](https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/sep/06/fact-checking-the-trump-harris-talking-points-befo/) - PolitiFact via PBS NewsHour: [Live fact check: Trump and Harris meet for presidential debate](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/live-fact-check-trump-and-harris-meet-for-presidential-debate) - Snopes: [Fact-Checking Harris-Trump Sept. 10 Presidential Debate: Live Updates](https://www.snopes.com/live/harris-trump-debate-live-updates/) **Where to Watch:** - PBS via YouTube: [Harris and Trump debate — PBS News simulcast of ABC’s 2024 Presidential Debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pJrIOey7OQ) (Stream begins at 6 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [ABC News Presidential Debate Preview](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538055-1/abc-news-presidential-debate-preview) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - ABC via YouTube: [ABC News Presidential Debate: Harris and Trump meet in Philadelphia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRh6598RmHM) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Simulcast - ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538053-1/simulcast-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 9 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Reaction to ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538056-1/reaction-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 10:40 p.m.) --- **Edit: Second debate discussion thread here: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdy9k3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=new** Top Comments: Kamala with RECEIPTS Trump complains "we hardly make chips anymore" despite Biden passing the CHIPS act. Three out of ten people say this debate will influence their vote? How the hell is anyone still on the fence at this point? I can not stand how the Media is going into how important it is for Harris tonight to deliver detailed policy and how it Will be paid for. While at the same time they give Trump a complete pass on detailed policies. The double standard is glaring LIAR! We all know you were on the plane with the idiot who wrote project 2025! Trump's getting triggered lol She’s getting more comfortable here he is just straight up lying now Not post birth abortions omfg Trump can't talk 5 seconds without lying I love when Kamala looks at Trump like "bitch you for real?" Kamala, just ask him straight up to define a tariff. The pandemic was so bad… the pandemic you kept insisting wasn’t happening and would just poof away by Easter? Take a shot every time Trump says "nobody has ever seen something like this" or other similar statements lol So, what I get from the pundits is that a win for Kamala only happens if she's perfect and a win for Trump happens as long as he doesn't drop trou and take a literal dump on the podium. Everything Trump says, Kamala is just like: "this fuckin' guy" I love it haha Everybody hold on to your asses, because VP Kamala Harris has the most thankless job in the world right now: trying to convince 133 million people that she's the better candidate for POTUS than a criminal sleazeball with a fascist cult following and the entire national press behind him. How does it feel knowing that we have not seen a presidential debate without Donald Trump in 12 years? In true American fashion, to be successful tonight the woman of color needs to be perfectly flawless, while the old, white man need only show up. Here's to hoping she hits the glass ceiling like a rocket 🤞 She’s getting going now. Seemed a bit nervous in the beginning

2024-09-10 21:45:56

Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump

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Title: Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump Body: Greetings and welcome to the first debate. I know everybody is extremely excited, so I'm gonna put together a thread! Remember, be polite and civil. No personal attacks towards each other, period. Due to the nature of the debate, expect heavy trolling tonight. Top Comments: My husband just got so pissed he donated $275 to Harris/Walz, I asked if he was okay with donating that much and he said, "What's the price of democracy?" And uffdah, he got me there 🫡🇺🇸 - from the 'burned down ruins' of the Twin Cities Holy. Fucking. Shit. Our woman is on FIRE. He’s getting louder. Can yall tell?? She’s getting to him already. And he didn’t appreciate the ABC fact check. Woah a moderator actually asking a meaningful follow up question. It's been at least three elections since we have seen that! Ok I am significantly less nauseous now. Harris is doing damn well so far.  https://preview.redd.it/0qvc9igtz2od1.png?width=485&format=png&auto=webp&s=ebd1f67f74f1cf3a88fed3b7f4e5cef8ac649307 Holy fuck that 'You are such an idiot and I'm dying inside' from him calling her a Marxist. I about died from her reaction. [Taylor Swift endorses Harris/Walz.](https://x.com/abbydphillip/status/1833703421360198026?s=61&t=yw_lcb_6-5U7Y1u5EZ-OLw) FACT CHECKED IMMEDIATELY. There is no state where abortion is legal in the 9th month! BAM! https://preview.redd.it/ux7ro9wac3od1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a759e957b67f3dc32ebd403c198d32acc54e36ca Mic drop 🎤 https://preview.redd.it/dfyzobwyj3od1.jpeg?width=840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a27e3e02f53c879138bb4990f847d776fcddf88 🤣🤣🤣 The after-birth abortions he's referring to are the kids being aborted in 65th trimester in schools across the country. “He exchanged love letters with Kim Jong Un” She signed “Childless cat lady” 🥲🥹🥹💜 I love her response here. Dictators can manipulate him with flattery and favors. She used his own words against him. She was so damn prepared for this. GUYS TAYLOR SWIFT JUST ENDORSED KAMALA!!!!!!!!!!!! YES BRO!!!! SHE FUCKING COOKED HIS ASS! SHE IS SO GOOD! I CAN'T WAIT TO VOTE FOR THIS WOMAN I will just say, what a relief. I knew VP Harris was the right person for the job, but I wasn't sure about her debating skills against the World's Single Worst Bully (tm). And she KILLED it. She trounced him. She made the choice so very clear: One (imperfect but) exceedingly qualified candidate vs. one utterly unqualified, dumb guy who gets by on big attitude, big talk, and plain old luck. Conservatives are freaking out about how “unfair” the debate was.  Aka She kicked his ass Loved how she said, *"Putin, would eat you for Lunch"* Again. Bars!!! What was the most insane thing Trump said tonight? My vote is for accusing Harris of wanting to perform gender reassignment surgery on aliens in prison

2024-09-10 22:07:38

Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 2

1fdy9k3

Title: Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 2 Body: This post is the second discussion thread for tonight's debate. The first thread was locked and refreshed when it gathered too many comments, and [can be accessed here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdtubw/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence). **Live Updates** Those wishing to follow along with the debate through text-based updates can find them at any of the following outlets: [AP](https://apnews.com/live/harris-trump-debate-election-2024-updates), [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-debate-abc-09-10-24/index.html), [ABC](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-harris-2024-presidential-debate/?id=113525682), [CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-harris-first-debate-2024/), [NBC](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna169722), [The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/live/2024-presidential-debate-analysis-donald-trump-kamala-harris) (soft paywall), [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/09/10/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump/) (soft paywall), [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/10/us/harris-trump-debate) (soft paywall), [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/10/debate-trump-harris-2024-live-updates/75145043007/), [CNBC](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/presidential-debate-live-updates-trump-harris.html), [WHYY](https://whyy.org/live/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump-philadelphia-constitution-center-delaware-primary-live-updates/), [MSNBC](https://www.msnbc.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/harris-trump-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna170176), [The Independent](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-time-tonight-b2609991.html), [Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/live/presidential-debate-september-2024), [The Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024) (paywall), [The Huffington Post](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/2024-election-live-updates_n_66db15a1e4b0abbb7b4491c1), [Politico](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/09/10/trump-harris-presidential-debate-tonight/watch-debate-online-00178409), and [the BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c9wjn8py59jt). Additionally, [NPR will be streaming live audio coverage of the debate at this link](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/09/nx-s1-5106053/debate-harris-trump-listen-live-watch). **Fact Checking** - PolitiFact via PBS NewsHour: [Live fact check: Trump and Harris meet for presidential debate](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/live-fact-check-trump-and-harris-meet-for-presidential-debate) - Snopes: [Fact-Checking Harris-Trump Sept. 10 Presidential Debate: Live Updates](https://www.snopes.com/live/harris-trump-debate-live-updates/) **Where to Watch:** - PBS via YouTube: [Harris and Trump debate — PBS News simulcast of ABC’s 2024 Presidential Debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pJrIOey7OQ) (Stream begins at 6 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [ABC News Presidential Debate Preview](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538055-1/abc-news-presidential-debate-preview) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - ABC via YouTube: [ABC News Presidential Debate: Harris and Trump meet in Philadelphia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRh6598RmHM) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Simulcast - ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538053-1/simulcast-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 9 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Reaction to ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538056-1/reaction-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 10:40 p.m.) --- **We're now on [the seventh discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdzwy5/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=new) for tonight's debate. The first through sixth threads were locked and refreshed when they gathered too many comments, and [the first](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdtubw/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [the second](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdy9k3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [the third](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdypmd/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [the fourth](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdyytn/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [the fifth](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdz7kl/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), and [the sixth](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdzlp3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence) threads.** Top Comments: THANK YOU FOR FUCKING FACT CHECKING HIM. HOLY SHIT WHY DID IT TAKE 8 YEARS "There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born". Yes, thank you! “There is no state where it’s legal to kill a baby after it’s born.” 😂  Having to tell the dumb dumb the most basic facts is embarrassing  Trump: They're executing babies at 9 months after they're born ABC Host: let's make it clear, there is no state where it's legal to abort a baby after its birth 💀 What the fuck is he even talking about? How can *anyone* listen to *anything* he has to say and think, "yep, that's my guy"? Yo this dude is fucking insane lmao Welcome to $5 underground punk night, our band is called Transgender Operations On Illegal Aliens Post birth executions?? I saw a ton of trucks lining up toddlers by he hospital just this morning! Who in the undercooked potato bumpkins believe this shit? Post birth abortion is called a school shooting Trans gender operation on aliens in jail Headlines better damn we’ll be a ranting Trump picture w/“THEY’RE EATING THEIR PETS!” He's really sticking with the whole "executing the baby" narrative. Lmao Why is Trump constantly handled with kid gloves? Every fucking time. I fucking lost it. Hardest I’ve laughed in years It's very cathartic to see someone finally, in person, look at him like he's the dumb ass as he is. [deleted] Transgender operations on illegal aliens who are in prison? Holy shit. Man, he's getting pissed lmao She's boiling him from the inside. He's being sous vide on live television. She is walking him like a fucking dog Holy shit.

2024-09-11 01:17:06

Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 3

1fdypmd

Title: Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 3 Body: This post is the third discussion thread for tonight's debate. The first and second threads were locked and refreshed when they gathered too many comments, and [can be accessed here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdtubw/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence) and [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdy9k3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), respectively. **Live Updates** Those wishing to follow along with the debate through text-based updates can find them at any of the following outlets: [AP](https://apnews.com/live/harris-trump-debate-election-2024-updates), [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-debate-abc-09-10-24/index.html), [ABC](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-harris-2024-presidential-debate/?id=113525682), [CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-harris-first-debate-2024/), [NBC](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna169722), [The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/live/2024-presidential-debate-analysis-donald-trump-kamala-harris) (soft paywall), [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/09/10/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump/) (soft paywall), [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/10/us/harris-trump-debate) (soft paywall), [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/10/debate-trump-harris-2024-live-updates/75145043007/), [CNBC](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/presidential-debate-live-updates-trump-harris.html), [WHYY](https://whyy.org/live/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump-philadelphia-constitution-center-delaware-primary-live-updates/), [MSNBC](https://www.msnbc.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/harris-trump-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna170176), [The Independent](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-time-tonight-b2609991.html), [Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/live/presidential-debate-september-2024), [The Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024) (paywall), [The Huffington Post](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/2024-election-live-updates_n_66db15a1e4b0abbb7b4491c1), [Politico](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/09/10/trump-harris-presidential-debate-tonight/watch-debate-online-00178409), and [the BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c9wjn8py59jt). Additionally, [NPR will be streaming live audio coverage of the debate at this link](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/09/nx-s1-5106053/debate-harris-trump-listen-live-watch). **Fact Checking** - PolitiFact via PBS NewsHour: [Live fact check: Trump and Harris meet for presidential debate](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/live-fact-check-trump-and-harris-meet-for-presidential-debate) - Snopes: [Fact-Checking Harris-Trump Sept. 10 Presidential Debate: Live Updates](https://www.snopes.com/live/harris-trump-debate-live-updates/) **Where to Watch:** - PBS via YouTube: [Harris and Trump debate — PBS News simulcast of ABC’s 2024 Presidential Debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pJrIOey7OQ) (Stream begins at 6 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [ABC News Presidential Debate Preview](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538055-1/abc-news-presidential-debate-preview) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - ABC via YouTube: [ABC News Presidential Debate: Harris and Trump meet in Philadelphia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRh6598RmHM) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Simulcast - ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538053-1/simulcast-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 9 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Reaction to ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538056-1/reaction-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 10:40 p.m.) --- **Edit: thread 4: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdyytn/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=new** Top Comments: Yes quote some POS authoritarian. Idk if the head of Hungary is who I would want to quote loving me haha So Trump says he's endorsed by Orbán & Russia? He's obsessed with dictators. What the fuck is he even talking about. Transgender operations on illegal aliens in prison? BINGO Victor?! The most respected?😟 Lol he does not look like he wants to talk about indictments or January 6th. Trump inherited $413 Million Dollars. That is public record. [https://qz.com/1411006/trumps-413-million-inheritance-doesnt-explain-his-mysterious-cash-spending](https://qz.com/1411006/trumps-413-million-inheritance-doesnt-explain-his-mysterious-cash-spending) Check any conservative subreddit and they’re so angry that trump is being fact checked lol “Why aren’t they fact checking Kamala!!!” Uh cause she isn’t lying. I can’t stand conservatives Pretty sure police officers did die after the fact She needs to interrupt here and stay Orban is a fascist Putin loving stooge She kinda eviscerated him huh Him even being on this stage is a national embarrassment. Transgender operations on illiegal aliens in prison. That's like the full Trump bingo card right there. [removed] I'd vote for the corpse of Joe Biden before I'd vote for Trump so I try to be unbias... But I really struggle to think he is gaining a single independent from this performance. Trump looks insane. He came out timid but he's back to himself. he really told a woman to be quiet on live television and asked if it sounded familiar lmao dude is cooked He falls for it EVERY time. She's playing him like a fucking fiddle. Even if you're the biggest baby on Earth, you can't fall for it EVERY. TIME! Isn’t Hungary allies with Belarus 🇧🇾 Don ain’t nobody scared of you 😭 we’re TIRED OF YOU

2024-09-11 01:41:58

Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 4

1fdyytn

Title: Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 4 Body: This post is the fourth discussion thread for tonight's debate. The first through third threads were locked and refreshed when they gathered too many comments, and [can be accessed here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdtubw/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdy9k3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), and [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdypmd/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), respectively. **Live Updates** Those wishing to follow along with the debate through text-based updates can find them at any of the following outlets: [AP](https://apnews.com/live/harris-trump-debate-election-2024-updates), [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-debate-abc-09-10-24/index.html), [ABC](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-harris-2024-presidential-debate/?id=113525682), [CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-harris-first-debate-2024/), [NBC](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna169722), [The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/live/2024-presidential-debate-analysis-donald-trump-kamala-harris) (soft paywall), [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/09/10/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump/) (soft paywall), [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/10/us/harris-trump-debate) (soft paywall), [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/10/debate-trump-harris-2024-live-updates/75145043007/), [CNBC](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/presidential-debate-live-updates-trump-harris.html), [WHYY](https://whyy.org/live/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump-philadelphia-constitution-center-delaware-primary-live-updates/), [MSNBC](https://www.msnbc.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/harris-trump-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna170176), [The Independent](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-time-tonight-b2609991.html), [Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/live/presidential-debate-september-2024), [The Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024) (paywall), [The Huffington Post](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/2024-election-live-updates_n_66db15a1e4b0abbb7b4491c1), [Politico](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/09/10/trump-harris-presidential-debate-tonight/watch-debate-online-00178409), and [the BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c9wjn8py59jt). Additionally, [NPR will be streaming live audio coverage of the debate at this link](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/09/nx-s1-5106053/debate-harris-trump-listen-live-watch). **Fact Checking** - PolitiFact via PBS NewsHour: [Live fact check: Trump and Harris meet for presidential debate](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/live-fact-check-trump-and-harris-meet-for-presidential-debate) - Snopes: [Fact-Checking Harris-Trump Sept. 10 Presidential Debate: Live Updates](https://www.snopes.com/live/harris-trump-debate-live-updates/) **Where to Watch:** - PBS via YouTube: [Harris and Trump debate — PBS News simulcast of ABC’s 2024 Presidential Debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pJrIOey7OQ) (Stream begins at 6 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [ABC News Presidential Debate Preview](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538055-1/abc-news-presidential-debate-preview) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - ABC via YouTube: [ABC News Presidential Debate: Harris and Trump meet in Philadelphia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRh6598RmHM) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Simulcast - ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538053-1/simulcast-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 9 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Reaction to ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538056-1/reaction-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 10:40 p.m.) --- **Edit: thread 5: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdz7kl/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=new** Top Comments: *I know Putin very well.* go on...... “I know Putin very well” Not the flex you think it is bro Thanks Donald, your incoherent ramblings have convinced my conservative family to say that they aren’t going to vote rather than vote at all. A no vote is a win I guess "This is a simple question." Trump: *rambles* And he doesn’t answer the question. He is refusing to say he wants ukraine to win VIKTOR ORBAN ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED LEADERS THEY CALL HIM A STRONGMAN Fuck me does half of this country actually done with democracy? Do we really want a strongman dictator? Can't say he wants Ukraine to win because that'll hurt his best pal Putin's feelings. Oh no. He mixed up Gaza and Ukraine. So even the Ukraine death numbers are fake now? What a putz Real fake numbers Kamala claims she’s against killing babies after birth but she’s currently murdering a 78 year old baby on live television Trump is burying himself. The mods I think were given instructions on basic fact checking and corrections, but his pathological lying has run so wild he is getting hit with live community notes every time he opens his mouth. Feels like Kamala is hardly even talking. She’s doing good at taking her opportunities to dunk on him further but she is still lowkey dodging specific policy positions "I want to ask you a simple question." Imagine thinking he can answer a simple question LOL That and Putin's cock is six inches deep in his throat. I hope Biden is watching and enjoying every minute of Trump getting owned Trump won't commit to Ukraine's victory. Figures I just checked on the other sub, and they're mad that the moderators are only fact checking one side lol. You know why??? Because Trump is spouting things that are literally, objectively, 100% false. Like post-birth abortions. Or saying that he didn't say things that we have recordings of him saying. Why is NBC having Lindsey Davis be the one to try to quite/control donOLD? And why isn't she asking more questions... Literally quoting dictators in a presidential debate in a democracy Two-state solution. Rebuilding Gaza. Ensuring security guarantees for Israel, especially from Iran. Can't really complain about the answer Harris gave.

2024-09-11 01:55:57

Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 5

1fdz7kl

Title: Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 5 Body: This post is the fifth discussion thread for tonight's debate. The first through fourth threads were locked and refreshed when they gathered too many comments, and [can be accessed here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdtubw/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdy9k3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdypmd/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), and [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdyytn/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), respectively. --- **Edit: Thread 6, post-debate thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdzlp3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=new** **Live Updates** Those wishing to follow along with the debate through text-based updates can find them at any of the following outlets: [AP](https://apnews.com/live/harris-trump-debate-election-2024-updates), [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-debate-abc-09-10-24/index.html), [ABC](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-harris-2024-presidential-debate/?id=113525682), [CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-harris-first-debate-2024/), [NBC](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna169722), [The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/live/2024-presidential-debate-analysis-donald-trump-kamala-harris) (soft paywall), [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/09/10/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump/) (soft paywall), [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/10/us/harris-trump-debate) (soft paywall), [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/10/debate-trump-harris-2024-live-updates/75145043007/), [CNBC](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/presidential-debate-live-updates-trump-harris.html), [WHYY](https://whyy.org/live/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump-philadelphia-constitution-center-delaware-primary-live-updates/), [MSNBC](https://www.msnbc.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/harris-trump-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna170176), [The Independent](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-time-tonight-b2609991.html), [Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/live/presidential-debate-september-2024), [The Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024) (paywall), [The Huffington Post](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/2024-election-live-updates_n_66db15a1e4b0abbb7b4491c1), [Politico](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/09/10/trump-harris-presidential-debate-tonight/watch-debate-online-00178409), and [the BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c9wjn8py59jt). Additionally, [NPR will be streaming live audio coverage of the debate at this link](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/09/nx-s1-5106053/debate-harris-trump-listen-live-watch). **Fact Checking** - PolitiFact via PBS NewsHour: [Live fact check: Trump and Harris meet for presidential debate](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/live-fact-check-trump-and-harris-meet-for-presidential-debate) - Snopes: [Fact-Checking Harris-Trump Sept. 10 Presidential Debate: Live Updates](https://www.snopes.com/live/harris-trump-debate-live-updates/) **Where to Watch:** - PBS via YouTube: [Harris and Trump debate — PBS News simulcast of ABC’s 2024 Presidential Debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pJrIOey7OQ) (Stream begins at 6 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [ABC News Presidential Debate Preview](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538055-1/abc-news-presidential-debate-preview) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - ABC via YouTube: [ABC News Presidential Debate: Harris and Trump meet in Philadelphia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRh6598RmHM) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Simulcast - ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538053-1/simulcast-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 9 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Reaction to ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538056-1/reaction-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 10:40 p.m.) Top Comments: This…………..former president Gonna tell my boss "I have concepts of a plan" and see how that lands Bro has no plan lol Omggg "I have concepts of a plan" My brother in Christ you have no plans. Is dementia don thinking this debate is againt biden? There was a moment when she paused looked at him and I swear she was holding back on referring to him as a 'shit stain'. Oh she wanted to say something more than former president He won’t say he wants Ukraine to win. Ah yeah he's allowed to interrupt and shout even though they want to move on but if Harris wants to respond they definitely need to move on. Great shit, coward moderators. "I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now" As opposed to the 4 years that he was and never had a plan. Also loved the vp's laugh at him. He can’t address any question without circling back to the same well of talking points. Stop letting this mutherfuker interrupt Zero questions answered so far. He’s incapable She wanted to call him a Motherfucker so bad lmfao Kamala just pointed out that he's running against her, not Biden. The fact a former US president can’t directly state they want Ukraine to win the war is fucking scary. And this…”former president…” Kamala is killing a 78 year old baby on live tv. YASSSS inviting Taliban to Camp David. Say it again, Kamala. Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David. Fuck it, call that mf old and stinky

2024-09-11 02:08:34

Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 6 (Post-Debate Thread)

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Title: Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 6 (Post-Debate Thread) Body: **We're now on [the seventh discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdzwy5/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=new) for tonight's debate. The first through sixth threads were locked and refreshed when they gathered too many comments, and [the first](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdtubw/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [the second](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdy9k3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [the third](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdypmd/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [the fourth](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdyytn/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [the fifth](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdz7kl/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), and [the sixth](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdzlp3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence) threads.** **Live Updates** Those wishing to follow along with the debate through text-based updates can find them at any of the following outlets: [AP](https://apnews.com/live/harris-trump-debate-election-2024-updates), [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-debate-abc-09-10-24/index.html), [ABC](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-harris-2024-presidential-debate/?id=113525682), [CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-harris-first-debate-2024/), [NBC](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna169722), [The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/live/2024-presidential-debate-analysis-donald-trump-kamala-harris) (soft paywall), [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/09/10/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump/) (soft paywall), [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/10/us/harris-trump-debate) (soft paywall), [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/10/debate-trump-harris-2024-live-updates/75145043007/), [CNBC](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/presidential-debate-live-updates-trump-harris.html), [WHYY](https://whyy.org/live/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump-philadelphia-constitution-center-delaware-primary-live-updates/), [MSNBC](https://www.msnbc.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/harris-trump-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna170176), [The Independent](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-time-tonight-b2609991.html), [Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/live/presidential-debate-september-2024), [The Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024) (paywall), [The Huffington Post](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/2024-election-live-updates_n_66db15a1e4b0abbb7b4491c1), [Politico](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/09/10/trump-harris-presidential-debate-tonight/watch-debate-online-00178409), and [the BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c9wjn8py59jt). Additionally, [NPR will be streaming live audio coverage of the debate at this link](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/09/nx-s1-5106053/debate-harris-trump-listen-live-watch). **Fact Checking** - PolitiFact via PBS NewsHour: [Live fact check: Trump and Harris meet for presidential debate](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/live-fact-check-trump-and-harris-meet-for-presidential-debate) - Snopes: [Fact-Checking Harris-Trump Sept. 10 Presidential Debate: Live Updates](https://www.snopes.com/live/harris-trump-debate-live-updates/) **Where to Watch:** - PBS via YouTube: [Harris and Trump debate — PBS News simulcast of ABC’s 2024 Presidential Debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pJrIOey7OQ) (Stream begins at 6 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [ABC News Presidential Debate Preview](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538055-1/abc-news-presidential-debate-preview) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - ABC via YouTube: [ABC News Presidential Debate: Harris and Trump meet in Philadelphia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRh6598RmHM) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Simulcast - ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538053-1/simulcast-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 9 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Reaction to ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538056-1/reaction-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 10:40 p.m.) Top Comments: Dude has ZERO PLAN "So, to be clear, you still do not have a plan?" UAW autoworker here - a bunch of plants closed under trump. Under Biden/Harris my 401k has skyrocketed, unlimited overtime if I want it, democrat majority in michigan got rid of right-to-work laws that previously made my union weaker. I have concepts of a plan. So to reiterate Trump’s position is: * Obamacare works * It’s better than any plan he could make * Kamala wants to kill it Ladies and Gentlemen, the Republican nominee 🫡 Do you think Trump knows how badly he was slapped down or is he too stupid and conceited to realize it? Anecdotally: my undecided father now says he’s gonna vote for Kamala 🥳🥳🥳 “…uh, a concept of a plan?” Trump did try and kill Obama care. John McCain saved it Guys, that's it... that's the headline "I have a concepts of a plan." That should be the front page all day tomorrow. “I have concepts of a plan” Her closing statement was brilliant. His: No plan. Just Bitchin and moaning She tries to get the last word - they adamantly cut her off. Trump tries to get the last word, they half heartedly try to cut him off and let him rock. Wow. So Trump has been in the world of politics since 2015, served for 4 years, tried to repeal Obamacare 60 times and today, in the year 2024, he only has a "concept" for healthcare that he will reveal "very soon" Who fucking buys this? Harris smartly mentioned that she and Walz were gun owners on the gun debate. Adding it to something that i didn't know... and stuff like this are important to bring out in a debate, rather than rehashing stuff people have already heard lol straight up told Trump to f off with the lies on guns My favorite line so far was: Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people Tweet of the night: Trump campaign officials are upset at ABC News for fact-checking that migrants are not eating dogs in Ohio. [source](https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1833694212329779371) Somewhere there's a trump campaign staffer who wrote a closing statement for him to use and wondering why they even bothered. If you don't care about politics, please do me a solid and vote for Harris so I don't have to hear Trump ramble on.

2024-09-11 02:29:17

Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 7 (Post-Debate Thread)

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Title: Discussion Thread: First Presidential Debate of the 2024 General Election Between Vice President Kamala Harris and Former President Donald Trump, Part 7 (Post-Debate Thread) Body: This post is the seventh and hopefully-final discussion thread for tonight's debate. The first through sixth threads were locked and refreshed when they gathered too many comments, and [the first](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdtubw/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [the second](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdy9k3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), [the third](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdypmd/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), and [the fourth](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdyytn/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), and [the fifth](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdz7kl/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence), and [the sixth](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1fdzlp3/discussion_thread_first_presidential_debate_of/?sort=confidence) threads are available at the preceding, embedded links. **Live Updates** Those wishing to follow along with the debate through text-based updates can find them at any of the following outlets: [AP](https://apnews.com/live/harris-trump-debate-election-2024-updates), [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-debate-abc-09-10-24/index.html), [ABC](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/trump-harris-2024-presidential-debate/?id=113525682), [CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-harris-first-debate-2024/), [NBC](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna169722), [The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/live/2024-presidential-debate-analysis-donald-trump-kamala-harris) (soft paywall), [The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/09/10/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump/) (soft paywall), [The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/10/us/harris-trump-debate) (soft paywall), [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/10/debate-trump-harris-2024-live-updates/75145043007/), [CNBC](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/presidential-debate-live-updates-trump-harris.html), [WHYY](https://whyy.org/live/election-2024-presidential-debate-harris-trump-philadelphia-constitution-center-delaware-primary-live-updates/), [MSNBC](https://www.msnbc.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/harris-trump-presidential-debate-live-updates-rcna170176), [The Independent](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-harris-presidential-debate-live-updates-time-tonight-b2609991.html), [Vanity Fair](https://www.vanityfair.com/live/presidential-debate-september-2024), [The Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024) (paywall), [The Huffington Post](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/2024-election-live-updates_n_66db15a1e4b0abbb7b4491c1), [Politico](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/09/10/trump-harris-presidential-debate-tonight/watch-debate-online-00178409), and [the BBC](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c9wjn8py59jt). Additionally, [NPR will be streaming live audio coverage of the debate at this link](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/09/nx-s1-5106053/debate-harris-trump-listen-live-watch). **Fact Checking** - PolitiFact via PBS NewsHour: [Live fact check: Trump and Harris meet for presidential debate](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/live-fact-check-trump-and-harris-meet-for-presidential-debate) - Snopes: [Fact-Checking Harris-Trump Sept. 10 Presidential Debate: Live Updates](https://www.snopes.com/live/harris-trump-debate-live-updates/) **Where to Watch:** - PBS via YouTube: [Harris and Trump debate — PBS News simulcast of ABC’s 2024 Presidential Debate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pJrIOey7OQ) (Stream begins at 6 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [ABC News Presidential Debate Preview](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538055-1/abc-news-presidential-debate-preview) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - ABC via YouTube: [ABC News Presidential Debate: Harris and Trump meet in Philadelphia](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRh6598RmHM) (Stream begins at 8 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Simulcast - ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538053-1/simulcast-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream begins at 9 p.m.) - C-SPAN: [Reaction to ABC News Presidential Debate](https://www.c-span.org/video/?538056-1/reaction-abc-news-presidential-debate) (Stream scheduled to begin shortly after the debate concludes) Top Comments: So dumbest line: She hates Israel She hates Arabs Transgendered criminal sex changes in prison Immigrants eating dogs They are doing after birth abortion I have the concept of a plan <--- this has my vote. Highest level of criminality I hate solar, but I am a fan of it. Biden hates her I got involved with the Taliban. Run spot run I saw it on TV I am leader on fertilization Venezuela on steroids "Why didn't she do it?" Why didn't Trump do any of what he said while he was president? This was a massacre. Worse than the June debate. Trump spent almost 70% of his talk time defending himself rather than talking about what he can do for the American people. Even basic bait like "people leave his rallies early" had him so rattled that he wasted the entire segment on immigration, which ironically is the one thing he can't stop talking about. Harris had an answer for everything he said. She consistently referenced facts and it was clear she had done her research. You can tell she's a lawyer because she had a number of "gotcha" moments where she backed him into a corner and made her punches land hard. Trump has a lot of room to work in these types of debates because most of what he says are lies. It's pretty easy to have a rebuttal when you can just make stuff up. Despite that, he lost. Badly. He was simply outclassed. What a performance by Harris. “I have a concept of a plan” - great soundbite from the debate there Donnie That was his closing statement? Anecdotally my undecided dad is now saying he’ll vote for Kamala!!! 🥳🥳🥳 Harris absolutely fucking dominated Trump. She is completely in a different dimension than him. Her poll performance is about to skyrocket after this. We live in a timeline in which the former President claimed that immigrants were eating peoples dogs and then when presented with a fact check he just said he saw it on TV. I'll add: Joe biden hates her She is joe biden The president doesn't know he's alive He had concepts of a closing statement Why haven't they done anything about the border, asks person who sabotaged the border bill. Jake Tapper just called Trump’s debate performance “a 4chan post come to life” on CNN. Damn I don't know about you guys but this seems pretty bad for Biden. > “I’m not Joe Biden and I’m not Donald Trump. I offer a new generation of leadership” The quote of the debate. That closing statement from Trump was really something. Talking about Germany in a closure statement, Kamala is living rent free hahaha. The way his voice dropped down when she criticized his crowd size was remarkable. She struck the nerve perfectly. Oh god Walz just dropped the "Old man yells at cloud" meme What a dark and sick ending from Trump. This………… former president Actually made me LOL

2024-09-11 02:45:51

Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris: "I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in the 2024 Presidential Election. I’m voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them."

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Title: Taylor Swift endorses Kamala Harris: "I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in the 2024 Presidential Election. I’m voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them." Body: Top Comments: https://preview.redd.it/84l9ftn1k3od1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ef3d21b62335771af62969683b1f90ab2af647b The childless cat lady send off omg I KNEW she would do it after the debate... after Kamala kicked Trump's ass on national TV. If someone asked me what would’ve needed to happen for Taylor Swift and Dick Cheney to make the news for doing the exact same thing, I’d be wondering who apologized to Taylor Swift after she shot them in the face. In under 30 mins, over 2 mil likes. Crazy This is the September surprise. We knew it would happen eventually, but right after the debate? Really nightmare night for Trump. I just donated a 100 dollars to Kamala and I’ve never donated to a political campaign before. This has to be the worst night Trump has ever had. Got crushed in the debates.... all the betting odds have flipped to Kamala and Taylor Swift with almost 300M followers have endorsed Kamala. Ouch! As a metalhead that doesn’t listen to Taylor Swift, I’m super excited that she’s endorsing Kamala. Locking in that Swiftie vote 🤘🏼 I love how she adds “Childless Cat Lady” in her signature. Also love her recommendation for other to do their research and come to their own conclusions. Swifty for life! 😻 Oh thank fucking _God,_ now maybe we will have fewer hot takes about how she clearly wants Trump to win now she's a billionaire and/or is polite to her boyfriend's coworkers. Trump’s camp f-d around and found out. That AI post forced her hand. A strong and eloquent endorsement… and, like her or not, an important one. Never doubted she would for a second. I’m glad she addressed the AI thing as well. The funny and satisfying thing about this is that she may not have even said anything if it weren't for the people trying to use her for their own gain. Instead, now she has a matter-of-fact statement that ultimately helps Harris more than the fake endorsement would have helped Trump. We are NOT going back. 🇺🇸 IS IT MY BIRTHDAY TODAY?!?!?? I’m sooooooooo excited and so proud of Kamala in the debate and now THIS ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I’m so fucking happy today The most famous 'childless cat lady' twisting the knife in on JD Vance and trump. Love it! Let’s go!! This is the perfect timing she endorsed Kamala! And super glad she addressed the AI pics as well! The way she signed off as “childless cat lady” is so so good  2.2 Million likes in 25 minutes. What a huge endorsement It really amplifies the damage this debate did to Trump. If she timed it that way on purpose, kudos

2024-09-11 03:08:52

Taylor Swift Brings 283 Million Fans to Razor-Thin 2024 Election

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Title: Taylor Swift Brings 283 Million Fans to Razor-Thin 2024 Election Body: Top Comments: I love when Republicans dismiss her followers as "kids who can't vote." Millennials are in their **30s and 40s** now. Hold on now. I think you folks are severely underestimating the 73 fans Hulk Hogan brings to Trump's side. Bloomberg must be using global stats here bc that number is close to the entire population of the US. Regardless, she’s got to have tens of millions of US fans. Nice This article estimates 58.3 million adult fans in the US https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/06/many-fans-taylor-swift-20986907/ EDIT: Clarifying that it's 58.3 million adult fans, so all voting age. Elon joking about raping/impregnating Taylor also means the Swifties will be even more locked in. Repubs are in the \~80 range, so anyone in their 30's 40's is a kid. Mike Huckabee tweeted in 2018 that Taylor Swift couldn’t change an election because 13-year-old girls can’t vote. First grade math shows they can register to vote now a boomer coworker of my wife was over for dinner and he made a backhanded comment about must be nice being able to afford our house at our age.  I genuinely don’t even understand what he’s talking about.  i have had two decade long careers. I have a 15 year old and a widows peak lmao You're gonna hear a lot of shrieking from the right about how this doesn't matter because it isn't going to get someone who was voting for trump to vote for harris - and they are probably correct about this. What this WILL do is get (some) people who weren't going to vote, who weren't engaged, who were going to stay home, etc, out to the polls. Whether or not it "moves the needle" remains to be seen, but just be on the lookout for conservative spin. Nobody thinks this is going to change minds from trump to harris, but this probably will change peoples minds from "i'm not going to vote" to "I will vote for harris." Here. Space Karen is fucking gross and beyond weird. https://www.vanityfair.com/style/story/elon-musk-tweet-sexual-comment-apparently-taylor-swift-2024-election-debate Don’t forget Kid Pebble. Musk just motivated a ton more Swifties to vote with this disgusting, rapey comment; >”Fine Taylor… you win.. I will give you a child and guard your cats with my life.” https://twitter.com/armanddoma/status/1833732839181103195?s=46&t=bhAmRD3pitwC4kOR8KpM8g I’m a millennial, and I voted for Al Gore. We’ve been voting for nearly a quarter century now She's been around so long that her music career could vote.  also she's been around long enough that her early career fans can *definitely* vote. The few of us millennials who actually managed to get a house have done so later in life than most generations before us too. Reminder that Taylor's fans are not all 14-year old girls. Taylor has been in the industry longer than theyve been alive. Shes 34, and the core of her fans are pushing 30. Millenials is her core base, and they feel the childless cat slander hard. Taylor clearly took offense to it herself. She has been able to retain her fans better than basically any artist, they have aged up with her. Her fans definitely can vote, and will vote. Saying all of them is little girls is just copium. [deleted] Um... what? I had to double check. Her first single (Tim McGraw) was 18 years and 3 months ago lol

2024-09-11 18:30:44

Taylor Swift Brings 283 Million Fans to Razor-Thin 2024 Election

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Title: Taylor Swift Brings 283 Million Fans to Razor-Thin 2024 Election Body: Top Comments: It's frankly pathetic that it's *still* "razor-thin" somehow. It really comes down to how all states are winner takes all other than Maine and Nebraska. So a state like Tennessee is usually around a 60/40 split, all 11 electoral votes will go to the Republican nominee rather than 7/4. But the 60/40 split is already ridiculous given the candidates. Like people vote red for the sake of voting red. How can it be razor-thin when that clown is talking about people eating cats? Host even had to step in and told him CHECKED.....NOPE!? It’s embarrassing that even 2% of this country would even consider that rambling lunatic with the temperament of a 3 year old to be remotely qualified to be the leader of the free world let alone actually vote for him to be. I liked the statement she released. It didn’t say “Vote for Harris”. Instead it encouraged people to do their own research and vote for who best represented their own values. It just so happened that when she did it, it brought her to the conclusion that Harris best matched her own values. Especially after Jan 6th, the Hearing that laid out testimony and evidence, and the recent admission that he lost the election. We really won’t know until Election Day. But it’s telling to me that my GOP parents are voting and donating to Harris and my childhood best friend (lifelong conservative) is not voting because he thinks Trump “is ass” Yeah but it's easier to fix an imperfect system than fixing stupid people who are driven by their prejudices. dream come true would be if she showed up on stage at a few Harris rallies in swing states, do a "tiny desk" thing, couple songs, just her, a mic, and guitar. . . then introduce Harris/Walz . . . . (you may say i'm a dreamer . . . but i'm not the only one . . .and sometimes dreams do come true) I’ve seen a lot of republicans lose their enthusiasm to vote for trump. I doubt many will vote for Harris. But I honestly expect historically low turnout from registered republicans in this election. Exactly. If its an 80:20 thing, ok...would still mean a fifth of the US is believing that monster every single word. Way too much. If its 50/50, I wanna switch planets. I’m a teacher of Junior High. These are kids who are beginning to understand the importance of politics, but only know what their parents have taught them. Swift in her Tweet said to research things and make an informed opinion themselves. Today, I overheard kids in a very conservative area that they want to start researching politics and make a decision themself. It was Swift’s challenge that inspired this group to go and begin forming their own opinion apart from their parents. I’m 100% against celebrity worship, but Swift’s Tweet seems to actually be inspiring youth to get informed. Mad props to her. Sad she felt forced into it. The fact that the Trump people were posting fake comments about her endorsing Trump either forced the issue or gave her an excuse to do this (or both). I'm really wondering what they were thinking was going to happen? They poked the bear and got mauled. That's how things work in real life. That's the thing. I highly doubt that over half the population of any state is stupid enough to actually think Trump is in their best interest. I believe it's more so that they will prevent any democrat from taking office at any cost. *From Bloomberg News reporters* [Claire Ballentine](https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/ATR8P7ZTClE/claire-ballentine) *and* [Francesca Maglione](https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AVRjz3URK_Q/francesca-maglione)*:* Taylor Swift has proven herself to be a cultural and economic force. As the US presidential race enters its final sprint, all eyes are on whether she can become a political one as well. Mere minutes after a [high-stakes debate](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-09-11/harris-bet-debate-on-baiting-trump-on-abortion-project-2025-it-mostly-worked?srnd=homepage-americas) in which Kamala Harris successfully baited former president Donald Trump time and again, Swift told her [283 million](https://www.instagram.com/p/C_wtAOKOW1z/) Instagram followers she'd be voting for the vice president. And in signing off "Childless Cat Lady" — a callback to a remark from Trump's running mate, JD Vance — she even joined in on the night of trolling. Swift's decision to enter the fray brings a level of star power virtually unmatched across the globe. Her social-media reach eclipses that of Elon Musk, the world's richest person and the owner of the platform formerly known as Twitter. The first indication of her influence may come from those who registered to vote at her urging. Last year, [Vote.org](http://vote.org/) [reported](https://www.vote.org/blog/NVRD_2023/) a 1,226% jump in participation in the hour after she pointed her followers to the site. In a cutthroat race that will likely come down to a few key states, experts are watching for signs that Swift’s endorsement could be a factor. The pop singer’s massively successful global tour created its own economy, made her a [billionaire](https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-taylor-swift-net-worth-billionaire/) and gave her huge sway over millions of fans who follow her every move. Everyone knows the EC is bullshit but Republicans benefit from it, so they would fight it every step of the way. It would take a Democrat super majority and preassure from the public to even consider doing away with the EC and having the presidential election be popular vote. It's hard for them to achieve a super majority when almost half the nation backs Republicans blindly. An old deranged rapist felon vs a competent jovial minority woman. Truly the hardest decision Americans have ever faced. No didnt you hear? He was being sarcastic! ***Sarcastic!!!*** I don’t think it’s razor thin, in fact, I think it’s gonna be a Harris and Walz landslide **as long as people vote**. The news media always wants to make it seem like a close race to get views and clicks bc drama. Same thing with all those “polls”.

2024-09-11 18:38:03

Stranded astronauts plan to vote in the 2024 election from space

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Title: Stranded astronauts plan to vote in the 2024 election from space Body: Top Comments: [deleted] [removed] US Navy ex sub sailor here. My boat (USS Parche, SSN-683) always left on "deployment" around Labor Day and returned sometime after Thanksgiving. While out there, we were pretty much totally incommunicado. Usually, they had absentee ballots prepared for us and we voted before we left. But one year (I think it was 1986) someone screwed something up on the absentee ballots and there wasn't time to re-do them before we left. So we didn't get to vote that year. Sailors being sailors, we were always looking for something to complain about, so we whined bitterly about the Navy taking away our right to vote. It kept us entertained for the first week or so on the deployment... If that happened today, we'd be parties to a lawsuit alleging voter suppression, I guess. I feel like the distinction between "gets to" and "has to" might sour the experience a little bit. Sunita Williams gets to have her birthday on the station, I have to imagine that’s pretty cool. As you should entitled to as a citizen denied the right to vote Sure, but at the same time they’re astronauts. They know what they want. There’s an element of “Oh no, Mr. Boeing, don’t throw us back in the briar patch!”. Don’t ask Boeing to deliver the absentee ballots! I knew Kamala was putting money into mobilizing citizens outside of the country but this is a lot further then I thought. Reminds me about the part in Apollo 13 when they told Bacon they filed an exception for him to file his taxes. “As he is, most definitely, ‘out of the country’.” I would assume anybody willing to go though the hoopfest needed to actually get to ISS would be glad to extend their stay as much as possible Nobody is ever forced to go to space. Cue GOP complaint about electronic voting in 5...4...3...2...1... And they vote for opposing candidates in the Same State.... Yea, that’s what you would like to think, but they have families, and if you don’t think it’s hard, you should watch some of those shows about ppl being alone, or in this case with an extra person, and see how long they last. Even ppl who trained and planned for stuff like this break and decide to leave early for many reasons. Being up there for months will play a mental toll on anyone, especially if you weren’t planning on staying this long. Thankfully they can still have contact with ppl, but I’m still nervous for their mental health. This is extra messed up since astronaut frank rubio was sent on a 6 month trip in 2022 and ended up staying a year because a leak, he got back in 2023. That's a deep cut. You just brought back memories of my dad reading me that when i was 3 or 4 How is this news? Do they think that astronauts working on the ISS never voted before? Every election cycle, US Astronauts get to vote from space if they either left before mail in voting or return after voting ends. I forgot how they do it, though. Actual thing that happened, by the way! Swigert remembered he didn't file his taxes while in space: >Approximately 24 hours and 18 minutes into the mission \[...\], Swigert asked Mission Control: >"Uh oh; have you guys completed your income tax?" >Commander [Jim Lovell](https://www.space.com/20320-astronaut-jim-lovell-apollo-13-biography.html), laughing, followed that up with: "How do I apply for an extension?"  >Mission Control burst into laughter. Swigert replied: "It ain't too funny; things kind of happened real fast down there, and I do need an extension." And, again, he was met with raucous laughter.  >Swigert tried again to explain his position: "I didn't get mine filed. And this is serious; would you." But Mission Control was still reeling, "you're breaking up the room down here." >The teasing went on a bit longer (and started to get more creative). The crew was, at this point, still planning on landing on the moon so, in jokingly suggesting that Swigert's misstep could interfere with the mission, someone chimed in to ask, "Is it true that Jack's income tax return was going to be used to buy the ascent fuel for the \[lunar module\]?"  >Despite the ribbing, Mission Control assured Swigert that they would help him get his taxes filed on time. While Swigert was not in a different country, he was still considered a U.S. citizen abroad, which qualified him for an extension to file his taxes late but penalty-free.  They go into the process in the full article - Houston's election officials have come up with a secure fillable PDF system for them that is then printed on the ground and filed with all the other ballots. This is the dumbest thing I have read this week. While deployed, certain liberties may be limited for operational reasons -- e.g. sailors are not free to leave their ship without authorization -- but citizen rights/duties are not given up

2024-09-13 19:50:24

BREAKING: Pennsylvania Supreme Court rules that mail-in ballots that are undated and misdated will NOT be counted in the 2024 election.

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Title: BREAKING: Pennsylvania Supreme Court rules that mail-in ballots that are undated and misdated will NOT be counted in the 2024 election. Body: The development, which is a huge win for Republicans, is expected to impact thousands of votes in November. The PA Supreme Court vacated a Commonwealth Court ruling, saying they "lacked subject matter jurisdiction to review the matter." "The Commonwealth Court lacked subject matter jurisdiction to review the matter given the failure to name the county boards of elections of all 67 counties," the court wrote. "This is a huge win to protect the vote in Pennsylvania that will protect commonsense mail ballot safeguards and help voters cast their ballots with confidence. The Keystone State will be absolutely critical in this election, and the Supreme Court has decided a major victory for election integrity," RNC Chairman Michael Whatley said. Top Comments: Very good. It was such a failure of leadership that ANY ballots with no chain of custody are allowed to begin with. False claims of racism in 3… 2…  It’s VoTer sUPprESIoN! Democrats here will ignore the ruling and the State Republicans will do nothing about it. It's a trend here in PA. If you aren't smart enough to put the correct date on there, or date it at all, I'm not sure I want you voting Doesn't the post office date all mail? Seems like the most official chain Did you know that the modern day calendar was intended to subjugate minorities? By having to date my ballot, you are oppressing me - The person who said math is racist. Oh boy, the incel brigade is fucking SEETHING. Look at those downvotes pouring in lol https://protectthevote.com/volunteer/ Make sure they don’t :) There’s nothing more miserable than a liberal Great, this should be standard for all states.  Why is it a huge win for Republicans? Shouldn't you say it is a win for Democracy? Democrats will claim black people don’t know what date it is. I've never understood why it's not racist to think black people are too dumb or too poor to figure out how to get a state issued ID or a passport. Just absurdly racist, but guess what? (To quote a great demented philosopher) That's what Democrats do all the time, they project their own flaws onto the opposing party. Calendars are a tool of the white patriarchy! Remember in 2020 Democrats literally ignored court orders telling them to separate ballots without signatures and that came late. The Democrats in Pittsburg and Philadelphia just said, "oopsie!" and got away with it. They knew \*exactly\* what they were doing. Trump was winning the state until magically a half million ballots flooded the system days later, many of which had NO signatures. Pennsylvania was stolen from us. Never forget. Liberal here. This seems like a common sense victory not a Republican one. Please explain to me how this in any way is a bad thing? The courts refused to see any evidence because they claimed they lacked standing to even present the cases. Complete bull I didn’t write the tweet, bring it up with him Ask yourself, which party is fighting implementation of election safeguards, and which one prefers transparency, ID, and verification?

2024-09-13 20:57:47

To get a tattoo to support your favorite candidate in the 2024 election

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Title: To get a tattoo to support your favorite candidate in the 2024 election Body: Top Comments: To be fair the wrong year is the least of her problems with a tattoo like that!!! I wish all Trump supporters would do this.. I’d instantly know to avoid them and judge them for the idiot sheep they are without having to talk to them  Tattoo artist: IDGAF, I'm getting paid to ruin this dipshits life.  Even if she got the year right… hell, even if Trump does win the election… the tattoo is still permanent. Imagine that still being on her face when she’s 70. Not to mention the fact that this disqualifies her from getting a job in most places. How and why could she have ever thought getting this tattoo would be a good idea? [deleted] [removed] She looks *vaguely* Latina but I doubt that's much of a basis to assume she must be an illegal immigrant. And that isn't even the dumbest thing she did today. Nah, that’s not real I haven't moved past the *not white* part. Is this an American thing where anyone who doesn't outwardly present as an Aryan Pureblood™ is of questionable heritage? Not the wrong date. She's referencing Project 2025. The one drop rule was/is a legal principle that says if you are not 100% white, you are not white. Notice how Obama has a white mother, but he is never referred to as white. Side note: technically, if he did win, the year would be correct as he wouldn’t technically be sworn into office until 2025, Mark of the beast I'm shocked so many people here are unable to tell that's not real. Um... isn't she? Depends on semantics. Because whoever wins this election will be the president elect this year. That’s why every sign says 24 by the nominees names on signs. Because typically that’s the sort of stuff you use to get people to go out and vote for the person you want. lol  Never going to regret that one. Thats why I like it when they have signs in their yard and on their car… then u know who the morons are!

2024-09-13 23:33:24

Half dozen House Republicans break with Trump in vow to accept 2024 election results

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Title: Half dozen House Republicans break with Trump in vow to accept 2024 election results Body: Top Comments: How have we gotten to a point in this country where accepting the results of a democratically held election is "news"? AND ONLY 6 OF THEM It's worse than that... It's considered newsworthy to declare that they're going to do their job. I read that as 214 cowards refuse to put country over party. 220 republicans and 6 have said they will accept the results So 6!? 6 house republicans say they still believe in democracy Yeah, it's pretty fucking sad. I checked and it’s not even all the republicans who represent Biden districts. Their Dem opponents need to campaign on this (there are currently 10 seats where the incumbent is running, definitely enough to flip the house). But it's a start. Let's praise them and get more. It’s closer to 95%. How brave of them If each of those 6 can convince 2 of their colleagues to join in, and each of those 12 can convince 2 more colleagues each, then it'd be praise-worthy. 214 cowards refuse to 1) recognize the rule of law, and 2) adhere to their own oath of office. That makes them criminals, as well as cowards. But...what's their house majority? Like 4 people? 6 pushes us to a state where fuckery is much less likely. It prevents the House from causing problems. It's shameful it's only 6, but it's still important. The worst part is that the article writes it as"half dozen" to make it seem like more than just 6 out of TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY Um isn’t the news here that 50% of house GOP will NOT vote to certify election results?!? It’s worse than that. Out of 220 Republicans in the House only a half dozen are willing to accept a Harris win. And 5 are from PA, NJ, and/or NY. It's just pandering. More so it should be news that 214 members will not accept the election I'm not asking folks to praise the GOP, just the individuals who have made the statement. Technically speaking: combined with all current House Democrats, if all incumbents win their elections... It's enough to ensure that the actual results survive any shenanigans that other House Republicans may try to pull.

2024-09-15 14:40:24

JD Vance admits he is willing to ‘create stories’ to get media attention | US elections 2024

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Title: JD Vance admits he is willing to ‘create stories’ to get media attention | US elections 2024 Body: Top Comments: Just say lie And suddenly something happened at the golf course. 🤷‍♂️ She was born in the US and this is not the city of Springfield. You’re lying and you know it. JD Vance admits he’s willing to drop his drawers and twerk in the middle of any street in small town America to get media attention. For extra sensationalism and more coverage he’s willing to demonstrate his superb wrist action. What a turd. That would be refreshing.  He is a US Senator. He and his running mate shared a story on national television and on social media that is not true. They didn’t check it. They didn’t do any investigation. They don’t condemn the bomb threats. And they did so in a way that included lies by them. The Haitians are legally there. They aren’t illegals. There isn’t any epidemic of pet eating. I appreciate you trying to sugar coat it but it doesn’t really compute. He lied. He didn’t do it to draw attention to a legitimate issue. He is amplifying it now to divert attention from the fact that Trump lost really badly to Kamala Harris in the debate. And your react proves he is succeeding. If he has legitimate gripes there are ways to draw attention to it that doesn’t involve lying. Kamala is not afraid to use the word liar in reference to Trump. I don't understand why most of the media are so gutless and sanewash Trump and JD Fake Stance. Just to be clear, your defense of a US Senator and former President deliberately spreading lies on the media is that other people have lied too? Thanks for admitting that Vance and Trump are deliberately spreading misinformation . Changing your mind isn't the best as a bold face lie. Russian collusion was real and is still happening. But you know that. Your justvtryingbto be a loud idiot on the internet so you can feel like big man. Your life must be truly sad. Crypto bro bought by an anti-democracy billionaire. That should be getting him plenty of media attention if our media wasn't owned by billionaires. I think that's lying, not creating, and they don't care who they impact. Yeah we know -we see it.Lying garbage.What thinking American would want to give power to someone who thinks and operates like this. This is nothing new. They have been spewing alternative facts for years. Right out of the Trump playbook! I’ve “heard” from “trusted” “sources” that he uses vibrating butt plugs while doing interviews; Trump and Loomer use the controls from “behind” the scenes Stop making excuses for these assholes. Except it was all a lie and he's been called an it Theres no story to being forth for the media cuz it was . Say it again with me ALL A LIE! it's absolutely creation because it didn't happen at all. Never. Absolutely based in fiction. A BALD FACE RACIST LIE MENT TO SPARK VIOLENCE AGAINST MINORITIES. Did the Italians speak English who arrived in New York in the early 1900s? The Germans? The Jews fleeing the Nazis? The slaves? Get over your sense of cultural superiority. The entire US is a product of immigration and the culture is a blend of dozens of others. So how do *you* know better than the guys who pled guilty to collusion, since *they* were the ones who were there?

2024-09-15 23:02:38

Peter Thiel: "if the 2024 election is close, Kamala will cheat to steal it."

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Title: Peter Thiel: "if the 2024 election is close, Kamala will cheat to steal it." Body: Can we be done with these tech oligarchs already? We have Elon Musk picking fights with other countries and blasting the US with his pro-Trump nonsense, we have Peter Thiel outright saying that a close election will be "stolen", and so on. https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1835049489545281565 Some of these people have vested interests in organizations with significant government contracts, and yet they say a close election must be one that is stolen - NO THANK YOU. Those are MY TAXES. I'll be contacting my Senator/Congressmen about this. I'm not living through another Jan. 6 without doing something about it first. Link below for those interested. Congressmen: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative Senator: https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm?Class=1 I honestly don't know. Doesn't Theil have a meaningful interest in Palantir? And doesn't Palantir do a meaningful amount of business from government contracts? "Pentagon awards $480 million deal to Palantir for 'Maven' prototype" https://www.reuters.com/technology/palantir-wins-480-million-us-army-deal-maven-prototype-2024-05-29/ "Pentagon’s AI office awards Palantir a contract to create a data-sharing ecosystem" https://www.nextgov.com/defense/2024/06/pentagons-ai-office-awards-palantir-contract-create-data-sharing-ecosystem/397104/ "Palantir lands $99.6 mln deal with U.S. State Department" https://www.reuters.com/technology/palantir-lands-996-mln-deal-with-us-state-department-2023-03-08/ Novice game theory: If you’re wealthy enough and engrained within America’s welfare enough – say like a major government contractor, there’s no meaningful downside. This means you can bet AGAINST America all of the time. If your bet is bad, your downside is a great government contract. If your bet is good, you have access to the money spout. It’s all upside or major upside. So your smartest bet is always against America. And thus, Mr. Theil? What a gut punch. These are all within the top 5 search results for "Palantir government contracts," I hope I'm really wrong. :( Top Comments: These American Oligarchs have nothing but absolute loathing for average Americans - we are literally peasants to them. Welcome to the new era of the "Divine Right of Kings". If people don't use the only power (voting) that we have against these MFers, then we get what we deserve. OP, I know you showed thiel’s government contract connections. But you completely ignored the bigger issue - Thiel effectively owns JD Vance. He got jd every job he ever had and supported his run for senate. Thiel wants Trump and Vance to win for his own personal goals. To add on to your comment, Peter Thiel has publicly expressed disdain for democracy as a system. Why people are not more suspicious of him and JD blows my mind because they are just going to manipulate DT. White, male immigrants who spent formative years in apartheid South Africa seem not to be the best people to admit to the USA. I can do stereotypes as well as they can. I've contacted my Congressman and Senators. I encourage others to do the same. This is absolutely unacceptable. Congressmen: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative Senator: https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm?Class=1 Justice Alito and his wife visited a hereditary German Princess last year for a concert at her home (St Emmeran Castle/Palace, largest private home in Germany) she’s an extreme far-right what I would call patron of political agitation and literally advocates for a return to Monarchy. They all say they’re very good friends of each other. All he noted on his financial disclosure was the value of the concert tickets but they were hosted in the 500+ room palace https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/13/alito-supreme-court-far-right-ties https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-justice-samuel-alito-german-princess-900-concert-tickets-rcna170019 This man 100% knows that’s not true. MAGA knows it’s not true. Trump knows it’s not true. The left would absolutely reject anyone who tried to do something like that. Pure projection. We know that he's packed corrupt maga loyalists into election boards and swing states. They're just laying the groundworks for trickery and lying and attempting to steal the election. It is in their interest to undermine democracy. The plebs are the enemy. Thiel has also been funding men like Curtis Yarvin who push an anti-democracy worldview based in genetics and IQ where they literally believe that Black individuals have inferior genes that will pollute the genes of white individuals. His funding of these guys is documented and evidence even shows up in easy to access wikis. I don’t know why the press doesn’t bring up his agendas here whenever he’s brought up, especially when he’s disparaging the integrity of a Black woman. They're immigrants, to boot. Make the USA apartheid South Africa again. Vance is also in tight with the president of the Heritage Foundation, Kevin Roberts. He even wrote the foreword to Roberts' upcoming book (delayed until after the election) where he talks about circling the wagons and loading the muskets. He's like this dark intersection between anti-democratic billionaires and Christian nationalists (not dissimilar from SCOTUS, in fact). I think it is important to understand that our democracy is being attacked by powerful forces from several directions right now, all at once. This could be the most consequential election in American history. There was obviously a reason the wealth used to be taxed exponentially higher. They think they are gods because they hold so many cards. He must be livid that he can’t buy this election. I had an SA boss who was a former Recce (Commando). Tank of a man. If you want to get him riled up, ask him about Musk. He cannot wrap his head around why Musk has a cult following. Imagine this spoken in Afrikaans-accented English: “Four languages and I cannot find a single derogatory word sufficient for him." The Murdochs, Musk---none of them from the U S. but doing a whole lot of damage to consumers who have enriched them. Who is this Thiel who hates our country too? It’s not nothing that Thiel and and Musk are naturalized citizens. My guess Thiel left Germany because he couldn’t vent his fascist beliefs in Germany. And Elmo is a product of aparthied who left to find greener pastures to spread his white supremacist vision of oligarch paradise. Voting isn’t the only power we have to do something about this, but it is by far the most civilized… This problem will need to be dealt with one way or another, it’s their choice if they want that choice made peacefully or forcibly Every accusation is a confession. Check out u/backcountrydrifter. He's connected a lot of dots. And he knows that even though he's gay, being a billionaire insulates him from any outcomes of policies pushed by these nutjobs. Truly despicable human

2024-09-16 09:02:57

CMV: Voting for Donald Trump in the 2024 election means you're either ill informed or actively opposed to democracy.

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Title: CMV: Voting for Donald Trump in the 2024 election means you're either ill informed or actively opposed to democracy. Body: If you're voting for Trump in the 2024 election, it suggests that you either have a lack of understanding about what has happened over the last decade and have been subject to misinformation, or are actively against democracy. There is a minority of Trump-voters who would like to see another system in place than the current system of democratic values, because they think their values and ideals are more important than democracy. Those who would rather live in a tyranny or other aristocratic system, as long as their needs and values are met. The vast part of the republican voters does not want to get rid of democracy - nor is it in their best interest - and are just un- or misinformed about current events. Even if your opinions are generally in line with most of the things Trump stands for, and you're actively opposed to everything Harris stands for, it should not matter since one side does not adhere to democratic values and the other does. I understand that a lot of information that people in the US get is heavily colored in favour of one candidate or the other All of this has been made especially clear since January 6th; if you support a candidate that attempted to commit a coup d'était, you want to subvert democracy, or you don't have the correct information to make an informed choice. I'm open to discussion and reconsidering my views if presented with new insights, as "they're all misinformed or authoritarian" feels overly simplistic. My perspective comes from observing recent events, but I'm curious to see whether my view is shaped by the news I receive or if there’s a more nuanced explanation. Disclaimer: I'm not from the U.S. and don't align with either the Democratic or Republican parties. Top Comments: A lot of us see both sides as undemocratic but trust the constitutions and system to keep them in check. >There is a minority of Trump-voters who would like to see another system in place than the current system of democratic values, because they think their values and ideals are more important than democracy. Those who would rather live in a tyranny or other aristocratic system, as long as their needs and values are met. Just go to the politics sub, or any other left leaning sub and you will see a minority of Harris voters calling for the same thing. They were seen with Joe Biden and them saying "Biden needs to change the rules so we never get Republicans in again, or if Harris gets in, she needs to do that" > it should not matter since one side does not adhere to democratic values and the other does Democrats don't stand for Democratic values. The DNC in 2016 actively worked against Bernie Sanders. The head of the DNC got caught giving Hillary debate questions ahead of time to help her prepare and win the debate. More recently they propped up Biden and once he dropped out, they could have had a very quick primary season but decided against letting their party members vote and undemocratically anoint Harris as the nominee. In addition, off the top of my head, It's been Democrat administrations who tried to institute soviet style snitching. Obama made an official notification page and e-mail address where people could report their neighbors and family for saying "misinformation" about Obamacare. Biden tried to institute a 1984 style "Truth commission" to fight against "misinformation". Just in the last month we have multiple Democratic Secretaries of States trying to remove 3rd party candidates who hurt Harris's chances by drawing votes away from her and fight to keep on 3rd party candidates who hurt Trump's chances by drawing votes away from him. Courts have overturned some of these decisions because they weren't based in the law. **EDIT: To all those with the whataboutisms and "The Democratic Party can do what they want since they are a private organization". I'm not saying Republicans are better. I'm showing OP that his statement of " it should not matter since one side does not adhere to democratic values and the other does." is wrong. They already made the case for Republicans, I'm making the case for Democrats too** You're always treading on dangerous ground when you try to claim that you're more informed than someone else. Humans are not very good at judging how much they know compared to other people. The most engaged Trump voters that are posting on Trump media sites etc are extremely informed. They're consuming all the same information you are, and then some more on top of that from right wing sources. They simply interpret the information differently from you. Claiming that 40-50% of the country believes differently from you because they are misinformed is something that can only come from naivety and a lack of self reflection. >"Biden needs to change the rules so we never get Republicans in again, or if Harris gets in, she needs to do that" Except Democrats are not saying that in an undemocratic matter. They are saying that, if the will of the people were adequately reflected, we would not have seen a single Republican president in the 21st century without the electoral college, which also is why Republicans have captured the supreme Court. Literally 5 out of the 9 supreme Court Justices were appointed by Republicans who lost the popular vote. >In addition, off the top of my head, It's been Democrat administrations who tried to institute soviet style snitching. This part should make you reconsider your news sources. Funny how, in a long comment about how "acktually both sides are the same", you took something where both parties are actually the same and blamed it only on the democrats. Your bit about Democrats wanting Biden or Harris to change the rules that Republicans never win is just wrong or misinformed. The rules they want changed are things like ranked choice voting and automatic voter registration. Those policies should increase democracy. The reason people think Republicans will never win again is because they haven't won the popular vote in 30 years. So by increasing democracy and a true representative vote, Republicans can't win. The Democratic Party, and the Republican Party, are not government bodies. They are free to pick their representative however they wish. Even if the Hillary conspiracy was true ( it’s not ), that has nothing to do with anything. If Hillary, right now, went on national TV and said “Actually, Nancy Pelosi and I are going to be running. We fired everyone who disagreed.” then 0 laws would have been broken. Compare this to Trump’s false slate of electors. His legal argument was NOT that be didn’t do it, nor that his actions were legal, but that he needed complete CRIMINAL IMMUNITY. Then, shockingly, the Supreme Court from which he appointed three members (after Republicans blocked Obama’s rightful appointment during his term), decided to ignore the Constitution when deciding whether or not the argument was Constitutional. Now the Supreme Court has ruled that the President cannot be held investigated for criminal actions done while in office through “official acts,” the definition of which is so vague that they don’t specify because to do so would likely mean creating a definition that wouldn’t cover Trump’s many attempts to seize power. Also fighting misinformation, i.e. lies, is not the same as “fighting democracy.” Public figures should not be allowed to willfully lie to the public, especially in ways that undermine the public’s trust in its government. Lies are not the same thing as opinions. The way you have the CMV worded, any view in favor of Trump, whether held by the replier or not, can be dismissed with "you are misinformed." He’s pointing out the flaws in the democrats because op is already against republicans and knows their flaws. There are so many topics that are debated in politics that are really not debated at all among people who are experts on those topics (People with PhD's in the subject, who have read and discussed the topics everyday for the last 30 years), and there are so many people that disagree with these experts on the basis that they just have a different opinion. They are misinformed, their different opinion doesn't matter to me because they didn't form it based on any knowledge out there, most of the time all they did was ruminate about it. Only 58% of America believes that climate change is mostly caused by human activity. Only 62% of Americans, and only 30% of republicans accept human evolution. These numbers were worse 10, 20 years ago even though the scientific community has almost unanimously accepted it for a long time. These people believe differently from me because they are misinformed, it's not out of naivity or a lack of self reflection. There are many other issues like this, that might only 20-30% among the general public, but almost unanimous support among those that can tell almost everything about subject. In this case 70-80% of the population is misinformed. ___ But perhaps I'm living in a world of propaganda as strong as the Truman show where everyone is trying to keep me in the dark, and that my family, all my teachers/professors and everyone I've met is in on it. How would I know I guess Please can we just pin this as a megathread for the daily “Trump Supporters are Fascists” conversation? There are many more options than the two you've presented. For instance, and for the sake of critical thinking, you must at least consider that it is you who is misinformed. I can not know the breakdown, but it must be true that a portion of Trump voters believe that the current regime controls the media representation of all facts related to Trump (biased news is propaganda after all). Many of those probably believe that the Department of Justice has been politically weaponized. Given that it has been in the past (War on Drugs), why not now? What information do you have that you can be sure is untainted by bias? How do you know, beyond the shadow of any doubt, that a Democrat-run DoJ isn't being pointed at Trump in a concerted effort to take him out of the race? I should note that I am no conspiracy theorist. I do not like Trump. I would not vote for him. I also do not believe the things I noted above are happening. But I can not dismiss them out of hand. In the same vein, I can not simply swallow the narrative being fed me. So there are more options than the two you propose. The narrative you believe simply isn't the narrative they believe. Whether that be due to ignorance, malice, or misinformation. Some points to consider: When it really comes down to it, 10 news networks running the same story doesn't mean that 10 independent stories all reach the same conclusion. It is usually that one source supplied the same story to 10 different outlets. Nobody who found themselves on the wrong side of history ever thought they were wrong. They were judged wrong after the fact. If you are certain you are right to the point that it simply doesn't make sense why anyone would think differently, you are not thinking critically. The definition of indoctrinated. It is entirely possible you are right and have all the facts you need to make a correct and principled decision. But what if you don't? This falls under “uninformed.” Trump absolutely could have accomplished an auto coup. Pence is the only thing that stopped him, ironically. If he had refused to certify the vote, there’s no real precedence for what comes next. And Trump was directly pressuring him, even ordering him, to not certify the vote. Without Pence’s adherence to democracy, if Pence had submitted to Trump’s demands and refused to certify the vote- we would have a constitutional crisis. There have been many opinions written that nothing explicitly gives Pence that power. All of those opinions hold no legal weight. The reality is- if Pence refused, Trump would have immediately filed suit with SCOTUS. And their opinion would be the only one that mattered. If they ruled for Trump, he would have successfully executed an auto coup via presidential and judicial corruption. Is this not being ill informed? It requires being unaware of Trump's previous attempts to immensely undermine democracy with the fake electors and pressuring the DOJ to call the election fraudulent so on and so on, it that his new campaign is based entirely on not making the same mistakes the next time. Including replacing career government workers within the doj with political appointees and loyalist. A thing that's already happening all over the country. I’m not Not a trump supporter. Answering for the sake of CMV. What if you’re neither - you like a republican president, and you don’t believe Trump (or anyone) has the ability to do any of the draconian things they all say? He tried once to subvert an election/vote - and was not successful. He was impeached for it. It’s possible a voter would feel that Trump will grumble about not winning, but won’t be able to change anything - especially those elements that are written into the constitutions Tl:dr: another possibility is a voter prefers GOP and doesn’t think Trump can actually do terrible things (or that the constitution will prevail). For the second of those two categories, I don't necessarily disagree but think you should broaden it to include not merely people who are actively opposed to democracy, but also a group that I suspect is bigger in America today: people who are *indifferent* to democracy, who do not have any strong feeling that non-democratic government would be good but also don't care about or have sufficient faith in democracy (at least not the model practiced in the USA) either. I doubt that very many Americans believe that abolishing elections, removing votes from certain people or attempting to violently overthrow elected governments is the ideal way a country should be run and that America would improve simply by these things supplanting the current system. But I think a bigger number of Americans possibly believe that their form of representative democracy at the very least isn't any *better* than non-democracy, or have little enough confidence in democracy to deliver improvements in their lives that they are willing to vote for a candidate like Trump who attacks and undermines democracy if they agree with some of his other policies. "but what if the dictator is good actually" is one hell of a take... During the Democratic primary debates, there was an exchange between Harris and Biden. Harris talked about the things she would do using executive orders to restrict gun rights. Biden countered that the office doesn't constitutionally have the power to do everything she just said. She said she'd still do it, you only need the will. He explained that there are limits to executive power, and that she must be restrained by them. She **literally laughed at him** for defending democracy this way. I don't know about you, but to me that sounds like someone who is actively opposed to democracy. She would be more at home in an absolute monarchy. Biden was the guy defending democracy from Harris. Crazy world, huh? that is indeed the rational thing to do. if the pro-democracy pro-murder candidate wins, you get more murders now, but you can vote them out in 4 years and bring back murder laws. if the anti-democracy candidate wins, they can do whatever the fuck they want, including things like killing their own civilians, and you can never do anything about it. yeah, and as mentioned, I think that this commenter was wrong on some things (like claiming that only democrats are proposing surveillance laws), and did a poor job defending his views elsewhere. Believe it or not, a party making rules in a primary to reward actual cardholding democrats over an independent who only ran on the democratic ticket in 2016 as an exception, while shitty, is not remotely similar to literally wanting to overthrow a democratic election where you lost. Why do you claim ill informed? Not everyone is on both sides of the spectrum and to claim that one side is and not the other is a gross generalization. Just like there are a lot of right wing absolutists there are also many left leaning absolutists, that don't understand that there is nuance to political opinions and views. I am a registered Democrat and have voted Democrat up until 2020. I voted for Trump in 2020 and will vote again for him this year. I am a history buff and actually have an above average understanding in civics and how our government works. With that said, I let myself get washed away by the media and left leaning influencers that shouted to the winds that Trump was/is a fascist dictator back in 2016, when the checks and balances are there to prevent that. 4 years passed without issue and a bunch of things changed my mind. By the time the January Capitol protests happened in 2021, I had already disassociated myself from the media after 4 years of the Boy who cried Wolf from them and left leaning influencers, plus the disaster that was 2020 with disinformation and biased news reporting from the left leaning media covering Covid and the George Floyd riots. So while I was a bit shocked at the Capitol protests, reading about it from both sides and looking at the videos and stuff, I was convinced that the protests were indeed peaceful and people were let in to the Capitol by security. Plus historically, a fascist takeover/coup is not one done by the people to the government but by a leader with the backing of the armed forces; the former is more of a revolution more than anything but since the protestors didn't take anyone hostage nor claim to take over the country but were contesting a controversial election, that's why I see it as a protest. Anyway, the more I started to see videos of Trump's 2016 campaign, I saw that his comments were taken out of context. He is crass and definitely not professional but he is not necessarily saying lies but exaggerating the truth. What turned me over was videos of him admitting to using the system in his favor when accused of rigging it by Hilary or Jeb, but then throwing it back at them of spending decades in power but not doing anything to stop those loopholes and benefiting from them as well. Then the fact that he is fact checked but when you read those fact checked articles, like mentioned before, they show that he was exaggerating but still right. Then in a personal level, I am tired of the left screaming racism, mysoginy, bigots, Nazis, etc., for things such as disagreeing on issues. That if you are a Democrat or liberal, you have to agree 100% on all issues or else you are a right wing bigot. That I can't escape leftist politics anymore because they are invading movies, video games, work, and others. Things that the left has always criticized of the right bleeding into non political things, are now things they are doing. The fact that these leftist groups are full of contradictions and can't get anything done because everything has to be inclusive when that is impossible to do. Seeing my home state of California and home of Los Angeles become this shithole due to disastrous policies that I voted for (like higher taxes to help the homeless) only to see the percentage of homeless go up and hear about $20 billion go unaccounted for. Seeing a push for gender laws go into effect, seeing universities lower their standards of admission, seeing a push to go all electric when our grid infrastructure is not even ready for it....like it's all going so fast to show that they are doing something when in reality they don't see the long term consequences of the policies they are doing. So how does it relate to Trump, since local government is separate from the federal? Well my disatisfaction with how the Democrats have run things in my state stretches to how they run the country. Blaming the right for things they also do, like insider trading (like Nancy Pelosi's husband). Things like higher gas prices (which does beg the question of whether the oil companies responded to it because of Biden stopping the pipeline and/or because they are greedy), the war in Ukraine and sending billions there when our citizens are homeless. Now, I'm no neocon. I still consider myself a liberal and support freedom of speech, of choice, and stuff but not the intolerant left that wants to get rid of it to avoid offending others or of people who they disagree with them. I want a government that wants to compromise to get things done but no one wants to give in. Just like how I don't want religion taught in the schools, I don't want gender stuff taught there. I don't want a political party doing things and then turning around and saying that they didn't do that but the other party did. A political party that has no campaign issues other than "at least they are not Trump". As that one saying goes, I didn't leave the Democratic Party but was left behind. This is my father. He's a (relatively) reasonable, educated man and has voted for Trump twice, and will do so again. He's religious and a lawyer, and has indicated the single issue of the supreme court as the reason he's going to continue to vote for (but not support) him. He doesn't believe he's smart/savvy enough to do anything drastic due to the checks and balances that exist in our system.  While I disagree, it's a sound argument and has nothing to do with the fall of democracy, jingoistic flag waving, or owning the libs. He just wants a republican at the helm. Edit: there are a lot of child comments disagreeing with the substance of the argument in this comment. The point that I was ultimately trying to make is that some people don't believe Trump has really don't anything, on his own, to erode democracy. Per the argument, he's tried and failed on many occasions. He did not single handedly lead a coup, ban abortion, or [insert terrible thing here]. According to the argument, he was simply the figurehead. And having a republican figurehead, no matter who, is better than a Democrat. Edit 2: if you have a personal problem with my father's reasoning, I suggest you relay that in another sub. Despite the fact that his opinion isn't one which I share, I would still like to point the majority of the commenters to the sub's purpose and rules. Emotions run high around Trump, I get it, but this is a sub for argumentation and reasoning, not insults and airing grievances.

2024-09-16 13:02:20

7 Illinois counties consider leaving state in 2024 election

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Title: 7 Illinois counties consider leaving state in 2024 election Body: Top Comments: "central Illinois received $2.02 back for every tax dollar given to state, with southern Illinois receiving $3.02 per dollar. By contrast, Cook County got 88 cents back for every tax dollar, while the outlying suburban counties got back 54 cents." Downstate needs the suburbs. Kentucky doesn't have enough in their coffers to pay those bills and I highly doubt Missouri would want to bring in more St. Louis and all the other issues surrounding it. Taxes in either state would go up significantly, which would defeat the purpose of splitting. Plus, Missouri has fairly strong trade unions that pay damn close to what northern illinois trades get. Aren't these people anti-union? Lastly, I'd hate to see illinois lose one of the greatest parks in the nation.  In the end, these people are free to move to their "lower taxed" paradise.  They'll find out quickly how important taxes really are.  Oh look, it’s the weekly Illiexit post. Yeah as soon as those Chicago tax dollars stop flowing they’ll come crying. What a waste of time and energy to try to make this happen. Kentucky can have em *move for lower taxes* *complains that town is failing, no small businesses or large companies coming in, roads unrepaired, fewer public services* *moves to new location with higher taxes for the better QoL* *complains about higher taxes* Rinse and repeat... If you don’t like that the biggest city in your state has such a huge impact, all you need to do is build another large city, create infrastructure to make it viable, have jobs to bring in residents, etc etc. I mean, free market right? That’s what everybody wants isn’t it? Nobody is stopping you from making Jerseyville the next Chicago. Step one: Leave Illinois Step two: Declare independent Moronistan. Step three: Apply for foreign aid. If they split to a new state they wouldn't even be part of KY. I can't see any city in the south end of IL providing enough to sustain a reasonable state budget. They'd be more Kansas than Kentucky, if even that well off. As long as a Puerto Rico or DC was added as a state to balance the senate it would be a net win for the Chicago and suburbs financially. Edit: yes I know that this is not a viable thing that could happen, the last time that a state split was WV/virginia during the civil war.  Casey’s gas station is the largest “industry” in a lot of there So Il towns. That, 2 bars, a tattoo parlor, and a non Catholic Church. Great tax base! And here I am in Indiana plotting my move to IL in a year. Thanks for letting me know which counties to avoid. Step three: why would Obama do this!! Are these the welfare counties? Good luck downstate 😂 you'll soon realize Chicago money is needed. Same thing just happened in Baton Rouge. A wealthy enclave of mostly white neighborhoods split from the main city... They're in for a rude awakening when those bills start piling up. Also, it’d put part of the Mississippi River entirely within MO, and thats and idea that the federal government, historically, hasn’t liked very much Yes, and as someone from Kane county, I can say I wouldn’t miss paying for them anymore lol Bye hicks. Don’t let the door hit you. Those 2 bars have 10 slots machines though! If you’re looking outside the Chicago suburbs, then the metro east (IL side of St. Louis suburbs) is good, as are the places with public universities, and the few other cities mostly. Because (Step Four:) Sleepy Joe let Obama get away with it! It’s a technicality, but the Mississippi exists entirely in Illinois near Kaskaskia and has for over 140 years. The river diverted 5 miles eastward after a 1881 flood.

2024-09-18 16:57:41

Sean O’Brien announcing the Teamsters won’t be endorsing anyone for President in the 2024 election.

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Title: Sean O’Brien announcing the Teamsters won’t be endorsing anyone for President in the 2024 election. Body: Top Comments: 12/8/2022 , TEAMSTER RETIREES, CENTRAL STATES PENSION FUND AWARDED $36 BILLION The grant was made possible by the American Rescue Plan (ARP) that was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Joe Biden on March 11, 2021. What has Trump done for you? Would he sign that bill? A good leader has to make tough decisions and persuade his members to get on board with the right candidate. O’Brien’s inability to open the members eyes shows weak leadership. Good luck. (By the way, this information is taken straight from the Teamsters press release from 12/8/2022. Feel free to look it up. The fact that so many dipshit teamsters would vote for trump just goes to show how uneducated we are on the whole A vote for Trump is a vote saying “My problems aren’t of my own making, my troubles are because of ________” 1. Brown people 2. Immigrants 3. Democrats 4. LQBTQ 5. Library books Etc etc. Trump gives weak people who can’t admit all their ails are 95% their own choices and 5% the randomness of life an excuse and community of peers Yeah, Biden gave 86 billion to the UA in 2021. No idea how the majority of a major union is endorsing Trump We endorsed Harris. How any union could endorse Trump is beyond me. These Trump judges out here trying to end the NLRB and you don't know who to back? Pls. whatever little I can do and ship via USPO. I didn’t down vote, I genuinely want to know what you think it means. I also want to know why you feel that someone who’s openly hostile towards unions would be a better option. Joe has been the most union supportive president in forever, why wouldn’t Harris keep that going? (Especially when Walz is super pro union) I would really like to know when they did these polls because I’m pretty sure no one from my local was asked Yes we’re a bunch of morons and now everyone knows.  This is stupid. They took a pole that shows Teamster's members overwhelmingly support the person who has when he was president, and wants to again if elected, to destroy their worker's rights. This should not effect the Union's stance. The Union should endorse the candidate who best represents worker's rights and union's rights, regardless of whatever other bullshit beliefs their members have. They should be mailed a copy of the Project 2025 plan where it outlines what they want to do to unions. It makes things a lot easier for them, “it’s not MY fault I’ve gone no where and my life is bad, it’s not my fault, it’s X, Y and Z, that way I can feel arrogant in my position and blame everyone else.” Trump appealed to their victim complex You’re gonna be forever waiting on that answer. O’Brien tomorrow, probably: “60% of our members voted to eat corporate asshole, so I guess the union eats corporate ass now.” What a dickhead. I’m more than aware that they’re being disingenuous, there’s never an actual reason. Scab It's the strangle hold the right has on blue collar labor man. The rank and file in trade unions are so right it's genuinely worrying. Every equipment operator, sparky, pipe fitter, and even elevator union brother or sister has been a republican. We are our choices - Satre I deny all responsibility - Trump They're not. Somebody explained it to me. This is about Union elections. It's mostly retirees who vote in them because actual working Unions guys are, well, busy working. So it's just a bunch of bitter, angry old men who no longer work for a living and don't really care about anything. And they decide who the union leaders will be. So the union leadership is appeasing those guys because otherwise the leadership loses the next election. All that said the younger guys have noticed the leadership kinda sucks right now, and they're waking up.

2024-09-18 21:41:46

Emails expose Election Officials’ plot to 'unleash chaos:' so-called "Georgia Election Integrity Coalition" including election officials from at least 5 counties show efforts by the group to portray "fraud" in the upcoming 2024 elections, despite no vote yet having been cast.

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Title: Emails expose Election Officials’ plot to 'unleash chaos:' so-called "Georgia Election Integrity Coalition" including election officials from at least 5 counties show efforts by the group to portray "fraud" in the upcoming 2024 elections, despite no vote yet having been cast. Body: Top Comments: Them: "We know there's fraud!" Everyone else: "the election hasnt happened yet" Them: "it was in all these places there's more people than cows" Perhaps they need to be reminded that it’s a felony to even conspire to commit fraud in the election process? And now that the feds have names… they can watch the plan unfold in realtime. Yeah... This isnt going to work. We know they are going to try this. Independent election watchers know they are going to try this. The DOJ knows they are going to try this. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris know they are going to try this. Everyone knows. This isnt the first time someone has tried to get the people in charge of running the elections to manipulate them. And we are not dealing with the best and brightest group of people here. If the emails are already leaked you can guarantee that texts / messages / phone calls will be easily leaked and/or discovered as well. Billy Bob and Mary Sue can claim fraud all they want and refuse to sign the papers but at the end of the day those papers will be signed by someone and they will be in a court room. Yes, but SCOTUS will make themselves the trier of facts. Could you imagine if you were married to one of these election officials or if they were your parent? You’d be like, “Dad’s going to lose his pension and take out loans against the house to pay the legal bills.” Is election interference a RICO eligible charge? The only rational explanation is that cows offer some form of election security. It terrifies me that all they need is dumb shit like this to spin the news for weeks. Haitians eating cats? Gonna run with it no matter how wrong it is proven to be. Massive election fraud? Just need some yokel in trump gear to claim illegal cat eating migrants are stuffing ballot boxes to tie up the courts in bullshit. When is our "have you no shame" moment? See... what i tell ya! THE US SHOULD NOT LET HIM RUN EVER AGAIN. The time he's not being held accountable for ALL the wrong he's ever done gives him time to work out the 2020 mistakes. Im so glad people see this and know what he's trying to do! Yes it is SCOTUS would have to be ignored Merrick Garland already had names, they were at his Federalist Society Meetings with him Yeah. But he's doing it for a good person /s Didn’t try hard enough. Shh... just let it happen... *grabs popcorn* The media needs to cover this non-stop so people don't forget it was planned when they start this shit. They really dropped the ball in 2020, the "Red Mirage" and Roger Stone's audio of their plan to falsey declare victory were known weeks in advance. It was covered, forgotten and then the media treated it as a surprise when it happened. We won't have one precisely because they have no shame. Because all people who have dads are five years old? The issue is we KNOW the Supreme Court is in their pocket so it won’t matter how untrue it is. Remember they own the supreme court, so they can say to promote a potential president this is an official act so they can not be prosecuted.

2024-09-19 02:49:40

I dreamt that Teddy Roosevelt came back to life as a zombie, and said, “It’s Bull-Moose time, baby!” Before winning the 2024 election in a landslide.

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Title: I dreamt that Teddy Roosevelt came back to life as a zombie, and said, “It’s Bull-Moose time, baby!” Before winning the 2024 election in a landslide. Body: (If you didn’t know, Teddy Roosevelt started a political party called the Bull-Moose party in 1912) Top Comments: This is the exact thing he'd do if he came back to life. Based I'd vote for him He would run on the most aggressive green campaign the world has ever seen, just so he could hunt lions again. I hope this is a prophecy User flair award "It’s Bull-Moose time, baby!" Jeb!: Finally a Worthy Opponent our Battle will be Legendary!!!! I dreamt that I beat Trump in the Presidential race because I demonstrated how well I could ride a roller-coaster, while Trump was unable to demonstrate his roller-coaster riding prowess, despite telling everyone he was the greatest roller-coaster rider to ever roller-coaster. I'm not even American. Easily the most qualified candidate in the last decade WHAT'S UP, BITCHES? this post feels like a Smiling Friends episode he bull-moosed all over the mountainsides I mean at this point in the election it's possible Shit I’d vote Bull Moose in a heartbeat if this happened I keep my rhymes pure, like my food and drugs! I'm an American stud, and you're the British Elmer Fudd Counterargument: someone can only be president for two terms in their lifetime, doesn’t mention what happens if they die and come back Based Honestly, a stale bag of potato chips could run the country better than he could. Any necromancers reading, you know what to do. I mean for Christ's sake look at that mug!

2024-09-20 21:29:04

If Harris wins the 2024 US Presidential Election, what happens to Project 2025?

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Title: If Harris wins the 2024 US Presidential Election, what happens to Project 2025? Body: So much of Project 2025 relies on another Trump presidency that it makes me wonder what happens to it if (or hopefully when) he loses. If Harris wins, would it just be pushed out another four to eight years, depending on a potential second term for Harris? Is Trump the only one that could make it happen if he were elected or could a future republican serve the same purpose? Could it and it's creators come under investigation and be levied fines or punishment if not entirely dismantled? Top Comments: It becomes Project 2029. Eventually one of these fascists is going to take the white house. Best we can hope for is to push it off until more old religious people die. The Heritage foundation is well funded and it isn't going anywhere.  They will not stop anytime soon. This right here ☝️ This isn’t the panacea solution. What we know as “conservatism” is a cancer that will continue to spread in the US, at least, until it is eradicated through extermination of the core beliefs. Part of that is religion so I’m truly afraid that this will just be another chapter in the never-ending discourse of humanity. It gets retooled. Liberals need to learn it’s not like fairy tales, where we all live happily ever after, but more like superhero comics, where the villains always slink away for the sequel. Look on the bright side, religion in all Western developed countries (including the US) is on the decline. More and more folks identify as non-religious and hopefully in a few generations only the most orthdox will believe in fairy tales.. I can't think of a more Orwellian name than Heritage Foundation. Exactly what kind of heritage are we making for daughters, granddaughters, and other-than straight male descendants?! sounds even more terrifying Well they do find a way to become worse every election cycle, so yes. [deleted] This may be what is happening, but being non-religious doesn't automatically mean that you become a rational and liberal thinker. And this is why the religious and the conservatives are fighting so hard, they see their possible downfall and are kicking and screaming the whole way. The heritage foundation does indeed seem to get worse with every election cycle Yep. This is why Republicans are so desperate to fund religious schools via taxpayer money. They want unchallenged obedience over discourse and democracy. The threat of hellfire does a great job keeping “obedient” people in line. I have read their stuff for years just to remind me how vile they are. Their target audience is extremely gullible btw. They are some of the people behind putting Prager U content in public schools (has only been successful in the south), and also side funding moms for liberty etc. They are quite literally anti American evil. We are lucky they are such clowns and that they don't understand the population.   If they get smart we are going to be going through some things .... This is what I always thought (Boomers dying off) but unfortunately there are alot of fascists in their 30s (Vance). We need to stay vigilant As an outsider and Aussie, I don't think it would ever be wise to let your guard down in future. Those religious extremists aren't going anywhere any time soon. Hopefully your younger generation of people won't be as fanatical as your present ones. In Australia we kicked out our extremely religious politicians and our Evangelical Prime Minister at our last Federal election, and they have virtually disappeared off the scene, but you have soooo many religious extremists in America I say it'll take you a few election cycles to get rid of the majority of them. Keep them out and vote Blue 💙!!! Liberals know But they’re throwing out whatever they can to cling to power: mostly through cheating decisions made by their constituents. We see it with all of the denouncement of religion in anything legislative, abortion and marijuana referendums - they’re not accepting the will of the people if it does t align to their agendas and it’s amplifying. They should be classified as a hate group

2024-09-21 03:42:24

Why is the 2024 election so much closer than 2020?

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Title: Why is the 2024 election so much closer than 2020? Body: In 2020 I didn't pay much attention to the election; I was stressed about it so I did my part as a citizen and voted, but at no point was I invested in checking the polls or watching the debates or keeping up in general. I was looking today at some of the historical polling from 2020 and it seems like at every point leading up to the election, it was pretty much a given that Biden had it in the bag. Why now, even with Kamala leading the helm, does it seem like things are so much closer than they were four years ago? I'm 28, and in my entire memory, I've never seen the people around me so excited to vote. Hell, even my Mississippi parents are THRILLED to vote for Kamala. Why isn't that energy reflecting in the numbers? Top Comments: The raw polling is closer in '24 than it was in '20, and that has a lot to do with Democrats being the incumbent party this time out, in an economy that a lot of people are dissatisfied with (whatever the "numbers" suggest about it). So there are "headwinds" that a Democrat has to overcome. Also, Democrats changed their candidate very late in the campaign, and there was a *huge shift in enthusiasm* between the two candidates. Enthusiasm shift often means a voter turnout shift, but that's hard to track in polling. Dems have a much stronger "ground game" than Republicans do this year, and *that's* hard to track. But this country is always going to be very close in Presidential elections, because of how the electoral college works. The 2020 presidential election was decided by only 43,000 votes spread over 3 states. I don't know how much closer you can get: >When you look at the smallest popular vote shift needed to give Trump a victory, the 2020 election was close. Indeed, it was even closer than 2016. **If Trump picked up the right mix of 42,921 votes in Arizona (10,457), Georgia (11,779), and Wisconsin (20,682), the Electoral College would have been tied at 269 all. The House would have then decided the election.** Republicans will hold the majority of state delegations in the new Congress, and they undoubtedly would have chosen Trump. If Trump had also picked up the one electoral vote in Nebraska’s Second Congressional District, which he lost to Biden by 22,091 votes, he would have won the Electoral College outright. https://www.cfr.org/blog/2020-election-numbers Just to reinforce, we didn't even know the projected winner until 3.5 days after polls closed. 2020 was a narrow, narrow win. The fact that only 43,000 votes can make up the difference of 7,000,000 vote differential will never not be infuriating. Or maybe the polling is closer this time because the polls are more accurate. The polling in 2020 underestimated Trump. The polls this time are close to the actual outcome in 2020. Of course, there's no way to know until we get the actual outcome. All pollsters have to weigh their results based on the electorate they expect will show up. But that's mostly guesswork. One thing to remember (that may or may not be relevant) is that Trump greatly overperformed his polling in 2020 (only the GA polls were accurate). One interpretation of the closer polling this year could be that the pollsters have learned their lessons from 2016 and 2020 and have rebalanced their methodology to correct for Trump's tendency to overperform. Meaning the polls now may show a closer race only because the 2020 polling was so flawed. The final results certainly imply the race was far closer than polls indicated. Alternatively, the polls could still be underestimating Trump - which would mean he's on track for a narrow win. It seems unimaginable - but then so was 2016. And the fact that he came so close in 2020 also defies logic. Clearly there is a very large percentage of the population to which he appeals - and we can't ignore that just because we don't understand it. The best course of action is to assume the race is neck and neck regardless of the polling and continue to fight for every last vote. I remember a headline (possibly from the onion) in those days after - Nation waits anxiously to see if candidate with 8 million more votes will win the election God so much this. It's *so goddamned insane* that a tiny percentage of Americans basically decide the president *just because they live in sparsely populated areas.* The fact that my vote counts way, way less than the votes of people in Iowa is enraging. >Or maybe the polling is closer this time because the polls are more accurate. The polling in 2020 underestimated Trump. The polls this time are close to the actual outcome in 2020. We obviously won't know this for certain, but I think this answer hits close to the heart of OP's question. 2024 **seems** closer than 2020 seemed prior to the election, but that's because polls in 2020 underestimated Trump's support, turning what looked like a comfortable Biden with into a nailbiter. We do know that pollsters are **attempting** to correct for biases that resulted in the underestimation of Trump in 2020. Whether they overcorrected, undercorrected, or got it right will only be known after election day. They're unbelievably smug about it, convinced that it's proof the system 'works.' Yet anyone living in the 21st century with even a bit of common sense can see that the Electoral College is a relic designed to appease slave states, and it serves no meaningful purpose today. In phone banking for Harris I have brought up the "peer country" comparison with several undecided voters. Nobody has any idea that of the G7 countries, our recovery has been the fastest and most robust. It has swayed some people when I remind them that Biden took over in the middle of a Pandemic and has spent the better part of his presidency trying to put things back together. That time was a blur I think. One guy just the other day was blaming Biden for the "riots" after George Floyd's murder. I politely reminded him Trump was president during that and the guy was like "ohhh yeah I guess that's true." People are very uninformed... > in an economy that a lot of people are dissatisfied with  Which is so stupid. None of them can articulate what exactly is so bad about it that is the fault of Harris, or Biden. And they CERTAINLY can’t explain how Trump would be better. Especially with his idiotic tariff plan.  >One guy just the other day was blaming Biden for the "riots" after George Floyd's murder. I politely reminded him Trump was president during that and the guy was like "ohhh yeah I guess that's true." Reminds me of people blaming Obama for the bailouts W gave to the banks. That's a little off. Nobody officially called it until Saturday morning, but by early Wednesday morning it was very clear that Biden was on pace to win. It would take a while to count and make sure, but the outstanding vote was pretty clearly enough to win it. Nobody who tracks elections was all that confused about the winner on Wednesday. Every sentence in this post is based on a version of reality I am not familiar with. Polling was way, way off in 2020. Polls would have had you believe Biden would win by 5+ points in all the swing states. He was also polling ahead in Florida I know, fricking ridiculous. Abolish the electoral college! OP is clearly referring to the pre-election polling, not the election results. Polling in 2020 was far better for Biden than the final results. It was also better for him at this point in the election that it currently is for Harris - which is alarming. I SUSPECT that this year's polling will be more accurate than 2020. I'm guessing they've adjusted their methods to account for Trump's previous overperformance. Also, polls are pretty bad at estimating turnout - so if Harris can maintain enthusiasm and we can reach those problematic low propensity voters it's plausible she'll overperform expectations. But we can't count on that. We really need to assume the election is neck and neck and resist the temptation to relax just because Harris is slightly ahead. Election forecasts seem to be converging on a 60% chance of victory - which is WAY too close for comfort, IMO. We need to keep donating, volunteering, and engaging with less politically active voters at every opportunity. After the polling done since 2016, it feels like this year they're in a put up or shut up position. If they flub this one no one's going to bother with polls anymore. My hot take is that polling is just as far off in the other direction and we’re going to be surprised by how poorly he does.  In November 2020, he hadn’t done a coup, or been convicted of anything, or been indicted, and he was *drastically* more coherent than he is now.

2024-09-24 17:16:48

Why is the 2024 Presidential Election so close?

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Title: Why is the 2024 Presidential Election so close? Body: Biden defeated Trump four years ago. But somehow now there’s a ~50% chance Trump comes back. How did this happen? Away from the idea that this is incredibly rare in US politics, the Biden administration was supposed to be a “return to normalcy” after Trump. And it seemed like 2020 was a referendum on Trump which booted him out. Today, Kamala maintains a narrow lead over Trump, but if the polls are as off as they were in 2020, Trump wins decisively Top Comments: Because conservatives do not have a red line for not supporting Trump. Liberals didn’t support Biden because he was too old, but Trump trying to overturn the 2020 election and saying migrants are eating cats and dogs is fine to conservatives.  Who are you voting for this election?  >...somehow now there’s a ~50% chance Trump comes back. How did this happen? This seems to be a consistent pattern: 1. A Democrat wins the presidency. 2. Right-wing media manages to convince everyone that things would be better under a Republican. 3. A Republican wins the presidency. 4. Things go *absolutely terribly*. 5. Right-wing media *tries* to convince everyone that things would be better under a Republican; the people don't buy it, because they see how awful everything is. ...then loop back to 1 and repeat. And if Trump wins, the next day we’ll suddenly have the greatest economy ever, though nothing has changed. >Why is the 2024 Presidential Election so close? >Biden defeated Trump four years ago. Narrowly. "Biden defeated Trump" narrowly. Biden won Georgia, Arizona, & Wisconsin by [less than 1%](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election#Results_by_state); if the national popular vote had shifted 1% toward Trump, Trump would have won. Honestly, if Trump had just done the basic - even if it was just putting his own stupid name on masks and sent them to everyone across the country and didn't go for the whole crazy conspiracy crap and had leaned into what should have been a "RALLY AROUND THE FLAG" moment... he would have won in a landslide. The fact Trump didn't win with such a golden opportunity to look like a halfway competent leader is just mind boggling. The fact so many Republicans keep staying with him is pathetically awful. Historically, inflation is death for the incumbent part. Realistically, if Republicans were running a normal candidate and/or they acted somewhat normal the past few years, there would probably be no contest Why do people think Trump actually has any policy besides reelection? > Because conservatives do not have a red line for not supporting Trump. Many college-educated whites who traditionally voted Republican are grossed out by Trump and have refused to support him. However, at the same time, many uneducated, blue collar whites see Trump as a brash, tough-talking outsider who'll upend the Washington elites and tear down the system that has screwed them over (spoiler alert: he didn't and won't.) Many of these formerly Democratic Trump constituents are concentrated in the industrial Midwest states of Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania, etc. All states that Obama won when he ran as an outsider. So yes, Trump has lost the GOP much of its support, but he's also made up for it in other places. Because we use a system designed for slave owners to override the will of the people aka the electoral college. Kamala will win by 5-10 million votes but can still lose the election cause 1500 people in a rural PA county voted for Trump. Honestly crazy we almost got Trump 2.0 after COVID. Winning reelection during a recession is insane. >Because conservatives do not have a red line for not supporting Trump. Yes they do, and Trump has had to change his messaging a few times after realizing he said something they didn't want to hear (on issues like transgender people, abortion, gun control, and the vaccine). If Trump started making sense, he'd cross conservatives' red line. > And if Trump wins, the next day we’ll suddenly have the greatest economy ever, though nothing has changed. ...and Republican voters will back them up: >The polling data doesn’t show that Americans think the economy stinks so much as it shows that *Republicans* say it stinks. >It’s hard to know whether Republicans actually believe this. But it’s beyond doubt that partisanship plays a key role in what people tell pollsters about the economy. >Some partisanship has always existed in polling about the economy: When there’s a Democrat in the White House, Democrats are more likely to say the economy is good than Republicans, and both sides change their opinions when the White House changes hands. But this difference has grown in recent years — and grown unequally. A pair of economists who examined decades of polling data concluded, “While both Republicans and Democrats view the economy more favorably when their party controls the White House, the magnitude of this partisan bias is roughly *two and a half times larger* for Republicans than for Democrats.” >We can see how that is playing out right now. In the latest edition of the University of Michigan’s [Index of Consumer Sentiment](https://data.sca.isr.umich.edu/fetchdoc.php?docid=74201), the average Democratic score is over twice as high as the Republican score. But **what is most striking is just how awful Republicans say the economy is. Their index score for this month is significantly lower than the score they gave the economy in the depths of the Great Recession in 2008 and 2009, when the economy was bleeding hundreds of thousands of jobs every month.** [[Source]](https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/opinion/republican-economy-voters-bias-partisan-2024-rcna126194) So if you think he has no ideology aside from his own ego, what issues to you agree with him on over Harris? That furthers my point. They love the red lines he will cross that other politicians will not.  Who are you voting for this election?  My theory on that is that Democrats are naturally more inclined to think the economy stinks because we empathize with those who are getting the fuzzy end of the lollipop, and that’s always *somebody*. It’s therefore easier for Republicans to be cheerleaders when their guy is in the White House. The inflation problem is mostly due to Trump. Right now he’s running on tariffs, which would increase inflation and increase the costs for the consumers. Why should people vote to make inflation worse?  Trump has no ideology aside from his own ego. He's also susceptible to flattery. Congressional Republicans know this about him, which is why they're always kissing his butt. They privately dislike Trump, but also know that publicly rendering obeisance will make him more amenable to supporting their legislative agenda. Nothing is “close” unless the election officially starts in November. Polls are not a definite indicator of exactly how the country will vote, there’s even been reports about oversampling Republicans in many polls (possibly to compensate for how inaccurate polls in 2016 were). I’m not saying the polls are completely untrustworthy, but you need to take them with a grain of salt. This is such a great point. Trump really could've been his best self and this country would love him. All these polls show me that people are just itching for a reason to vote for him. And yet here we are. [deleted]

2024-09-25 16:57:54

Jennifer Lawrence shares reason behind endorsement for 2024 presidential election

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Title: Jennifer Lawrence shares reason behind endorsement for 2024 presidential election Body: Top Comments: Same reason you don’t want Dr. Nick Riviera operating on you, or elect the Tiger King to office. Common fucking sense. “I’m voting for Kamala Harris because I think she’s an amazing candidate and I know that she will do whatever she can to protect reproductive rights,” Lawrence said. “That’s the most important thing, is to not let somebody into the White House who is going to ban abortion.” To be clear, I don’t think Biden/Harris is any way shape or form responsible for “genocide”. But why would voting for Trump be better in this case? He’s declared he’d support Israel even more. What's the tl;dr on this? Did you go to upstairs Hollywood medical school too? Did she just say “duh”? The red thing’s connected to the, blue thing! The blue thing’s connected to my wristwatch…uh oh. To the general public endorsing and voting for a candidate are effectively the same thing. If she just said she was voting for Harris from the start i don't think it would have come up again This just sounds like you’ve been fooled with a line to sink voter enthusiasm. The reality is that one of them will win. Trump will be worse for Palestinians. He’s said so himself. You’re not just voting for one issue either. You have to also consider abortion, climate change, social program spending, Ukraine, gun control, the Supreme Court, if we really want a felon and literal rapist as our President, someone who tried to overthrow democracy. Someone whose former Vice President said should never be president again and that asked him to put himself above the Constitution. I'm criticizing Roan for pissing and moaning about genocide when the options are "person who advocates for a cease-fire", and "person who has said 'Israel should finish the job'", and acts like it is some sort of hard choice to make. I am so impressed and pleased by Jennifer's, and so many other artist's classy public endorsements of Harris. Vote Blue for Me and You! [deleted] I mean that's all that needs to be said. The choice is that obvious, IMO. So what’s the solution? Voting for nobody and then complain when trump gets elected? “Well at least I didn’t vote for him” (as Trump quadruples Israel’s budget to destroy Palestine) /s Trump wants to wipe them off the map. Get some perspective. Respectfully your comment is pointless. "settled decades ago" .... what? what planet are you living in? Abortion rights have been a point of contention and a goal for republicans since roe v wade was established. Please go and read local news. Please go and read about the effects of taking away the roe v wade safety net for women. wth does climate change have to do with one's concerns, for their lives (especially after miscarriage when the fetus has to be aborted), when the same candidate that supports abortion is the most likely to enact climate change. What does your comment add to the conversation when the other candidate (that rolled back abortion rights) is also the one that pulled back from the paris agreement and took the US a few steps back in their previously set carbon emmission/sustainable energy goals. I am not disagreeing with you, but two people can extrapolate the same set of facts very differently. It's fine that she didn't want to endorse anyone, but like I said the general public doesn't distinguish a difference between enforcing and voting for. Endorsing is just the term famous people use to tell us plebes who they are voting for. No the concern is that what she was saying sounds exactly like what caused 2016 to happen. People not voting for trump, but not committing to voting for Hillary. Voter apathy will make or break this election. [removed]

2024-09-27 01:25:38

Mueller investigator says Russia interfered in 2016 -- and in the 2024 election too

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Title: Mueller investigator says Russia interfered in 2016 -- and in the 2024 election too Body: Top Comments: There was a Russian asset in the FBI who was working on the investigation and ran interference for Trump. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/former-fbi-official-charles-mcgonigal-arrested-ties-russian/story?id=96609658 THAT'S WHAT THE MUELLER REPORT WAS ABOUT. How many times do these people have to go back back to the press and say this? [deleted] Bill Barr said it didn’t happen. We know it did. Barr said it first and loudest. People believed him [deleted] Isn’t that disgusting and disturbing? And Merrick Garland ignored it. 10 counts of Obstruction of Justice... and Garland let it all slide. "Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics Conservatives reading your comment and scrolling past. No argument, no counter-point, no correction. Nothing to say. They all know. You're reading this you know. And you don't give a shit because you know you're part of the sickness. Make treason punishable again The only ones who deny that are MAGAts. [deleted] If you're an American yes, if you're a Republican... not so much. The only ones who didn’t “believe it” was Bill Barr & the Drumpies. Why Mueller wasn’t more forceful in his conclusions and calling Barr the liar that he is, is beyond me. That's because conservatives wholeheartedly embrace the, "ends justify the means," winner-take-all mentality. If you can lie, cheat, and steal — all the while holding your opposition to higher standard — then you should. To them, they are at war and anything goes. They don't care about ethics or truth. All they care about is power and winning that power. If they had critical-thinking skills; if they had moral standards; if they did not engage in full-throated cognitive dissonance, then they wouldn't be conservative. Because the press let Bill Barr get away with covering it up. They literally throw around "Russian collusion" as a gotcha to show Trump has never done anything wrong. Then, won't even acknowledge the fact that election interference in 2020 was disproven over and over again. Completely detached from reality. No shit, Captain Obvious.  Literally won the election for Trump in 2016, along with help from Comey. Comey threw his big last minute press conference and said he had no choice because he had no control over the New York field office and they'd leak it if he didn't get in front of it. Now we know the guy in the NY field office holding Comey's balls is literally a Russian agent. I wonder if history will ultimately recognize the election of Trump as the most extensive and successful intelligence operation ever performed. From a recent New Yorker on Russia interferring in subtle, but constant, ways with life/safety in Norway: (my bolding of the key sentence I wish GOP enabling Americans would wake up and understand) "Most Western governments do not appear to think of themselves as being at war with Russia. Russia, however, is at war with the West. **“That’s for sure—we are saying that openly,” the Russian representative to the United Nations recently declared.** Most attacks are deliberately murky, and difficult to attribute. They are acts of so-called hybrid warfare, designed to subdue the enemy without fighting. The strategy appears to be to push the limits of what Russia can get away with—to subvert, to sabotage, to hack, to destabilize, to instill fear—and to paralyze Western governments by hinting at even more aggressive tactics. “They do it because they can do it,” an air-traffic controller told me, of an electronic-warfare attack that imperils civilian aviation. “Then they deny everything, and they threaten you, saying that, if you don’t stop accusing them of what you know they’re doing, bad things will happen to you.'" [https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/16/russias-espionage-war-in-the-arctic](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/16/russias-espionage-war-in-the-arctic)

2024-09-30 10:37:02

CMV: Kamala Harris is going to lose the 2024 election

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Title: CMV: Kamala Harris is going to lose the 2024 election Body: Earlier this year [I made a post](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/18eg1a4/cmv_trump_is_going_to_win_in_2024/) to this same effect, but that was under the assumption that Joe Biden would remain the Presidential candidate. Needless to say, the fact that he withdrew from the race confirmed my belief that he was a weak candidate and would have lost against Donald Trump. And for a while-- up until early September-- I saw Kamala Harris as a much stronger candidate with a better chance of winning than Biden ever had. However, I now have extreme doubts that Harris is going to win, for a number of reasons listed below. 1. Despite being allegedly more popular than Biden, Harris is polling within the margin of error of Biden in all of the swing states. Even a small polling error, which there is almost certain to be, would put Trump over the edge enough to win. 2. Harris is losing support compared to Biden in "sun belt" states such as Arizona and Georgia, meaning that any victory she does achieve would be much narrower than Biden's, with fewer backup options. 3. There are rumors of an upcoming Israeli offensive in Lebanon in the coming weeks, and if that happens, it could cause American public opinion to swing strongly against the Biden administration, and by extension Harris. 4. The leader of a dock-worker's union in New York has announced his intention to go on strike in October, potentially sending the American economy into a tailspin and once again damaging the Biden administration's image at a crucial time. Top Comments: > Despite being allegedly more popular than Biden, Harris is polling within the margin of error of Biden in all of the swing states. Even a small polling error, which there is almost certain to be, would put Trump over the edge enough to win. Polling errors can go both ways. We have to work on the indicators that we have. Polling was off in 2016, 2020, and 2022. Are we going to see a hidden blue wave like two years ago? Are we going to see a Trump surge like 2016? Who knows. As I see it right now, Harris looks poised to win WI, MI, with tossups for GA, NC, and PA. Any one of those toss-up states and that's ballgame. > Harris is losing support compared to Biden in "sun belt" states such as Arizona and Georgia, meaning that any victory she does achieve would be much narrower than Biden's, with fewer backup options. True but she's polling far better in North Carolina which I think could be the key. Right now, for obvious reasons [Mark Robinson is polling ABYSMALLY in the governor's race in NC](https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/27/politics/mark-robinson-north-carolina-governor-poll/index.html), and trying to use Trump as his life raft. With the environmental turmoil happening in that state right now, what happens next is anyone's guess, but a flipped NC gives Kamala a path while still losing Arizona and Pennsylvania. > There are rumors of an upcoming Israeli offensive in Lebanon in the coming weeks, and if that happens, it could cause American public opinion to swing strongly against the Biden administration, and by extension Harris. I'm not sure about this. I don't know how many people would be swayed by this who haven't already been swayed by a full year of carnage in Palestine. > The leader of a dock-worker's union in New York has announced his intention to go on strike in October, potentially sending the American economy into a tailspin and once again damaging the Biden administration's image at a crucial time. Yeah this could fucking suck, and is the most compelling point on this list. Biden needs to get his ass on this. I think it would behoove Harris to subtly distance herself from Biden as much as possible without ruffling feathers on some of these things. He is clearly asleep at the wheel here. Also - i just filled up my tank for less than $3 a gallon yesterday. That fucking ruled! For your first two points, I don't understand how a slight advantage to Harris that is within the margin of error would lead you to believe that Harris is definitely going to lose. Can you explain your logic there? Because to me the logical conclusion would be that the election could go either way, and Harris winning is well within the realm of possibility. For your second two points, I don't think either of these issues are going to significantly alter Harris' base of support. Pro-Palestine folks are mostly very young people that are not high turn-out voters, whereas most older high turn-out voters are very pro-Israel. I also don't understand how you would spin a potential dock-worker's union strike to be blamed on the Biden administration. Especially when everyone knows that the Democrats are far more pro-union than the Republicans, this has literally always been the case. Here's the problem with your statement: you present no odds, you give an absolute. I can tell you with 100% confidence that Harris DOES NOT have a 100% chance of losing. Right now, any reasonable pollster/modeler/etc. is calling the election a tossup, which is about right. There is a false narrative that "the polls underestimate Trump", which is nonsense. In 2016, he slightly overperformed compared to the polls and eeked out a win with less than 100k votes in just the right states. In 2020, he slightly underperformed in the polls, with a lot of prognosticators believing it's because he spent so much time telling people mail-in voter was a scam. So let's check off your points for a good ole CMV :) 1. You say "Harris is within the margin of error" and then say "there will surely be an error" (and there will be), but you discount that "what if the error is in Harris's favor?" Harris right now is a very slight favorite everywhere that matters. She also has more paths to victory than Trump. Because of that, she is a slight favorite. 2. AZ and GA were a bit of a surprise for Biden (again, proving that Trump can/does underperform). Harris does NOT HAVE TO win these. Trump MUST win these or upset "the blue wall" again. At the same time, Harris is threatening NC, which again is a state that Trump must win. 3. The impact of this is unclear along with the likelihood of it happening. 4. Same with 3. The bottom line is we have a deeply polarized electorate and this election is going to come down to 1 thing: turn out of the party faithful. To say "Harris is going to lose" is just as incorrect as saying "Trump is going to lose". It's a coin toss that right now slightly favors Harris. The most likely outcome is Harris inches in with a few key swing state votes while Democrats lose the senate, creating a gridlocked government. I mean ultimately this is a view that can only be truly proven right or wrong by what people do in 34 days, all the rest is debating tea leaves. That said, what is your data supporting she is losing support in AZ and GA? Five thirty eight still showing tied. Been showing tied for awhile. Why would another Israeli offensive change anything in the political landscape in the US? Leftists are pissed about Israel already, they can get doubly pissed I guess but their vote is already baked into polling. Why would another offensive going to change the dynamics of people that care a lot already vs people that haven't really cared so far? Otherwise an economy crippling strike, if that happens, would be a black swan event. Not much I can do about it. Last month it was going to be a government shutdown that would cripple her chances, now that is resolved past the elections. In normal circumstances, maybe that could be significant. These are not normal circumstances. Much of Harris' base are never-Trumpers that don't want to re-elect the man that tried to fraudulently overturn an election. That's why people accepted Harris taking the nomination in the first place, making very little fuss over the lack of a primary. There is a strong feeling that literally any Democrat warm-body is preferable to Trump's madness. 1) polls dont vote 2) where? For what? I haven’t seen any lost support, Ive seen her gaining 3) it would be INSANE to me if people chose trump over Kamala on this issue. He would be 1000000% worse than her on this issue 4) there’s gonna be lots of political games happening now til the finish line. It’s just games. Just like Trump killing the border bill. They’re desperate, they’ll do whatever they can to try to tarnish her Pretty obvious to me that Trump will lose. He lost in 2020. He's only hemorrhaged supporters since then. People iffy on Biden are ready to vote for Kamala and are more energized. Trump doesn't have the 2016 energy he used to. Polling was actually pretty much spot on in 2022. People like OP just doubted that the polls were that good for Democrats and so the narrative was that they would surely lose in a landslide despite good polls.   The thought process being that of course the polls may look close but when you factor in the automatic -5 Democrats alway underperform by then its a GOP landslide! When in reality it really was just a close election.  2012 is a better analog for the Democrats overperforming. Romney was tied/leading Obama at this point in the election and Obama blew his back out on the night. The election was called at like 10pm.  >Why would another offensive going to change the dynamics of people that care a lot already vs people that haven't really cared so far? Exactly this. No one who cares about this kind of stuff is like "I can overlook the Palestine stuff, but Lebanon is a bridge too far!" Plenty of stuff gets artificially fucked with around election season. Do you think the dock workers are striking now because they want to go leaf peeping? Pollsters constantly adjust their methodologies. In 2016 they were way off. In 2020 they were off. Who's to say they aren't off again, but in a different direction? **Δ**, on the Israel point at least. You're right that most Americans have already decided what they think of Israel and a new offensive wouldn't necessarily change anyone's minds. Thats my thought as well. Trump seems to gain some support among people who are very upset with the current economic status quo but everytime he opens his mouth, he distances supporters.  Your entire point number one boils down to "if the polls are wrong then the polls show her losing." If you're using polling data at all, then your view should be in favor of the candidate leading in the polls. Kamala will win in a landslide. Since Donald Trump has lost and since January 6th polls have been SO off that i don’t even know why people pay them any mind. There was no red wave and Democrats have been over performing the polls EVERYWHERE since just look at the midterms, so the polls are literally shit. Every special election seems to be a D win, and they’ve taken back multiple state houses and senates and even formed trifectas in one or two states. Click bait media tossed headlines to make it seem close. I’m not getting complacent but you gotta look at the facts we’ve been presented so far. I think people are severely underestimating Roe V Wade. Women have fought their entire lives for the freedoms the Republican Party are now trying to strip. Women have dedicated their LIVES to making sure they have rights, i don’t see them just throwing in the towel, if anything i see them more angry and energized than ever and their bringing their husbands and girl dads. There’s been an influx of new registered voters among gen Z and young black females. Up like 165% compared to 2020. Twitter is not the real world. Combine just these points I’ve made and I don’t see how it’s possible that Trump comes back from a loss in 2020 and wins, especially after Jan 6. Just look at all the prominent Republicans voting for Harris. I think the majority of people are done with the bullshit and redneck MAGA and just want a sense of normalcy. I think it’s gonna be a shocking historical night for Democrats and I hope I’m right. My prediction is Texas goes blue, Harris wins NC, WI, AZ, GA, MI and PA. The national generic vote was mostly on point, but the republicans mildly outperformed the polling average. It was an underperformance from the massive outperformance expected after 2016 and 2020, but democrats didn’t outrun polls meaningfully in 2022. Assuming that we use RCP average as a baseline. And if Trump matches RCP averages perfectly, he wins. Fair point, and admittedly one I had not considered. **Δ** It's important to note his voters had a greater death toll among Covid deaths, and he's relied on significantly the votes of Baby Boomers, who are hitting a demographic cliff. Based on SSA actuarial tables, about 25% of men Trump's age who were alive in 2016 have since died. Another 25% are expected to die between now and 2028. Ultimately, this election is going to be unpredictable. After covid, we had massive migration amongst various states, and many states that go red may actually swing into purple territory. Polling data can be bonkers. We'll have to wait and see, but I think Harris has a pretty decent chance of winning. Not a swiftie fan, but if Taylor swift and her millions of loyal fans vote for Kamala because their leader did and she wins- I will buy every single one of her albums 😅😅

2024-09-30 18:40:34

Trump demands 'equal opportunity' to answer Jack Smith's immunity brief — after 2024 election

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Title: Trump demands 'equal opportunity' to answer Jack Smith's immunity brief — after 2024 election Body: Top Comments: I take that to mean they have no response they think is substantive enough to undo the pr damage.   best they've got is another vapourware pretence that "we'll reveal it ... later".   Not only that, it’s precisely what Smith’s filing says Trump and co did over and over in November and December 2020. The filing sets out the evidence of how Trump’s people - usually Giuliani, sometimes with Trump - and met with election officials, governors etc and demanded that they throw the election result for Trump based on one or more of their wild conspiracy theories. When asked if they can back up their claims, they’d say “we’ll get it to you”. They never did. You'd think he'd want to get a rebuttal out there before people voted... You can do that. AT TRIAL This mode of argument is what was used in just about every court case regarding the 2020 election. Trump and his cohorts screamed fraud then sent his lawyers to plead before judges. However, when the judge would ask the attorney who was obviously under oath if he was alleging fraud or had evidence for it, in every single case the lawyer(s) admitted they had found no evidence of fraud. In fact, I think Giuliani and possibly other attorneys were fined by at least one judge for essentially wasting his time with frivolous lawsuits. Under oath His voters are 110% ok with committing crimes to reach their goals. It’s part of the maga platform. He had the opportunity to not crime, he declined. and a few disbarments. It's crazy how many people threw away their careers and reputations for this guy. It’s so gross that they call him “President Trump” in these filings. Literally the first word of the motion is a lie. Or in Trumps words, a *”refuttal”* Numerous fines for numerous attorneys to include sanctions on some of the lawyers. [7-page filing](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.253.0_1.pdf) They also held "evidenciery" hearings in numerous states that were televised and included only republican lawmakers, where they presented their crazy conspiracy theory's as fact without allowing anyone to refute anything. At least 1 of these was held in a hotel. Somehow, people don't realise that's not how the government or the law works. They have the concept of a response. You just know that's been a top priority instruction from **Former** PINO 🍄rump, that he must be addressed as such. Passed down the line from his fake Oval Office at Mar-a-Lardo. jon stewart did a whole bit on that, how what they said in rallies was opposite of what was said in court, and somehow all of his voters still repeat what's said at rallies and don't acknowledge anything else. Seems a bit unfair to make lying a criminal offense, as it will severely limit his defense options. As long as there will be no fact checking. Or a “refartal”, if you will.

2024-10-03 16:02:42

This might be the dumbest reason I have EVER heard of in the 2024 election season for voting for former president and current candidate Donald Trump....

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Title: This might be the dumbest reason I have EVER heard of in the 2024 election season for voting for former president and current candidate Donald Trump.... Body: Top Comments: They can’t just say it’s their skin tone, it’s current year. What?? So in other words, they can't explain why they're voting Trump because they don't have a good reason So did I. Had to mow my parents’ big ass double lot twice-a-week in the humid Ohio summer, sometimes _after_ football practice. This person can suck my dick and balls. Sure they do. It’s cuz they’re white. They just can’t say that part out loud. It's supposed to be a dig at Harris' "I was raised in a middle class family" story. Right wing Facebook is full of this shit. It's exhausting. I would rather vote for a candidate with a natural skin tone. Orange skin is weird af. At the debate Kamala was asked a question about the current state of the economy, she started by saying she was born into a middle class family, so she has past experience with the economy. But they never include that part. trump was asked about job security in America and he responded with "I won man of the year and the fake news said it never happened!" Sounds like something Vance would say in response to a completely unrelated question. What kind of donuts do you want? Well my grandma, who raised me because my mother was a drug addict, always made me mow the lawn in our middle class home before I could have donuts. I'm as white as a ghost, also a registered voter who is NOT voting Trump and never would! It's white identity politics. That still doesnt lower the "I'm dumb as fuck" scale to anyone. Kamala was asked "what are you going to do about the economy" in an interview and she went on for about a minute about how she was born into a middle class family and how big of a deal it was when her family was able to afford a house for her family to move into. She then went on to explain how she will be providing 25k for first time homebuyers and 50k for businesses and whatnot, but the right wing media bubble didn't finish her answer. They just showed her talking about her upbringing and called it a "non answer" and use it like a gotcha that she has no plan. That's why it became a talking point. It's "she has no plan, she just dodges questions" while actively not finishing the quote but why are conservative repeating "I was born into a middle class family". Are they saying she isn't? Wasn't she born into a middle class family? A middle class we don't see today because wealth has been soaked up by the rich and "middle class" is now considered upper class in comparison? I say all of this because I FUCKING SEE this "I was born in a middle class family" EVERY-FUCKING-WHERE on my conservative family facebook. I am absolutely tired of it and wonder what greater point they are making when you compare Trump's rich ass Same friend, but they're using coded language indicating that middle class whites should be voting for Trump because it's in their best interests. Even if they were right (they're not) it's pretty messed up to want to marginalize other people in order to make your life better. Vance literally started the VP debate with "i was raised in a working class family.." then proceeded to talk about himself for half of his answering time.. They must have missed the VP debate where every question Vance answered started with talking about being from a middle class family with a drug addicted mother As someone who is literally ghost white, this is just so bizarre to me. As someone who is literally mocha black and raised in a middle class family with a pristine lawn, I’m equally as confused.

2024-10-05 11:20:25

You woke up in November 2024 and saw these election results, what are your thoughts?

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Title: You woke up in November 2024 and saw these election results, what are your thoughts? Body: Top Comments: “What just happened” Rew Rork and Blorida absolutely fucking with everyone's minds. “Yeah but NEW YORK? NEW YORK!? ONE OF THE MOST BLUE STATES OUT THERE!?!? Giant meteor hit New York City, Tsunami sinks Long Island, Niagara Falls expands and engulfs Buffalo, Rochester overtaken by kaiju, aliens invade and destroy Albany, Syracuse frozen into brittle ice by blizzards and shattered I’d assume I woke up in a parallel universe, if Alaska and TEXAS went blue and NEW YORK went red? Idk. Blorids isn’t as weird as Blexas. At least Kamala Harris won Rochestarian here - realistic enough “Who would win this hypothetical war” I'd ask to see the manager.... Texas blue and new york red? Something is rotten in the state of denmark Latinos tend to be to the economic left and social right of Caucasians. (Except for the Cuban exiles, they basically think that public fire departments are literally communism). Latinos are largely more conservative than caucasians, and texas being a border state doesn’t help that al all How many lawsuits will come out of Texas alone. Biggest crying and bitching about Texas going blue. Alaskan here, can confirm this would be VERY confusing to see Lol i do wonder is there would be a similar reaction for NY going red though Texas is a Latino state now. There must be a possibility of it flipping. A perpetual state of confusion that New York voted for Trump. Wait-- So you actually put real thought into that map?! Why the hell would Texas go blue in a national environment where Trump would win New York?! I'd move to Canada, because whatever made New York go red, and Texas go blue, is obviously a danger to me and my dog. if it happened like this... I would question some things. No way in hell is texas or florida flipping blue.

2024-10-06 22:30:08

The 2024 US election if states with recreational weed voted blue and everyone else voted red

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Title: The 2024 US election if states with recreational weed voted blue and everyone else voted red Body: Top Comments: This election map actually seems plausible ngl The only big outlier is Missouri. Frankly not sure how they ended up legalizing it. hawaii being red is a big outlier Wait how did Missouri of all states get legal weed? statewide ballot initiative iirc Hawai’i, which is almost always blue, will not ever legalize weed because the Japanese tourist industry is a huge part of their economy and Japan would likely dissuade it’s citizens from vacationing there is something like weed is easily accessible. On a similar note, gun ranges are a huge hit among foreigners. Oklahoma has medical but not recreational weed legalized. The state voted recreational down in the last election. My impression is a lot would be different in red states if issues were actually put to voters Oklahoma should be blue right? I live in Hawaii, there is a large amount of Japanese tourists, but a massive majority is still domestic tourism. Also most people who want to either smoke weed anyways(from what I’ve seen) or use the medical use card(which is also common apparently). I’ve also heard of some people smuggling edibles from other states or even amazon. Ballot initiative. Tbh i think Montana is the bigger outlier. Very true, abortion ballot initiative in Kansas is another example. Place is crazy. There is a weed shop on every corner. Reasonable take, however, it's a fucking map sub. Also, you're bri\*ish Seriously what in Earth is “live free or die” New Hampshire doing?!?! MO resident here. Because we all want the same things, it's just that a bunch of morons keep voting for Republicans despite them constantly voting against their best interests Best indicator of election results. My uncle actually ran a tour guide group for Japanese folks coming to New Orleans and their biggest draw was shooting ranges for crazy weapons and helicopter rides.  They love that stuff. Not from Missouri but I live next door. From what I've seen, the people of Missouri *love* voting *for* progressive policies but would probably put Hitler in office if you put an R next to his name on the ballot. See: minimum wage, weed legalization, maybe abortion too this fall. idk, montana from what i understand has something of a libertarian streak

2024-10-08 01:03:46

X overtakes WeChat in spreading Chinese disinformation about the 2024 US presidential elections

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Title: X overtakes WeChat in spreading Chinese disinformation about the 2024 US presidential elections Body: Top Comments: The five main talking points of Chinese disinformation: 1. Trump is the only savior of the US, and today’s problems are because he is not in charge 2. The “extreme left” policies of Biden, Harris, and the Democratic Party are destroying the US and bringing it closer to communism 3. The Biden administration opened the border to allow undocumented immigrants to vote for Democrats in the 2024 election 4. Leftists are masterminds behind various world events and natural disasters and are playing a long game to control everything 5. The 2020 election was stolen from Trump and widespread voter fraud, especially involving noncitizens, may lead to another stolen election in 2024. Mix in these talking points with some AI-generated images, classic racism and misogyny, and you've got yourself a nice disruption campaign. Thanks Elon, for making the world an objectively worse place, this is the legacy that'll outlive you. Because Trump can be bought. Look at the patents granted to Ivanka and Trumps Chinese bank account. Flatter the fat man and pretend like hes a genius to his face and you'll get way more than any normal kind of diplomacy will get you. Yes. Both China and Russia have an openly vested interest in diminishing the United State's power and influence on a global scale. An administration full of corrupt narcissists all simultaneously trying to figure out how to skim your political process for as much cash as possible leads directly to that. See Russia spending the last 40 years being so hollowed out by corruption that they can't even properly invade Ukraine for a topical real world example. If things get worse here, things get better for Russia and China. That's how adversarial relationships work. It's why they've been investing in bot farms since before the public even knew that was a thing. It's not new, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's what the Cold War turned into. I’m confused why Chinese disinformation is so pro-Trump — is the goal just to make the US’s government fail and collapse or something? Ahhh no wonder Elon is openly supporting Trump. He's got to keep those foreign funds rolling in. What better way than keeping Trump in power indefinitely? > 2 is funny considering China is actually a communist country its not the CCP that's spreading those narratives. redditors are conflating chinese language disinfo from right wing outlets like the falun gong with the narratives that the CCP officially endorses. And trump has noteably withdrawn or stated he's wanted to withdraw from global alliances supported by Democrats that combat Russia and China strategically and economically. All the talking points my conservative friends bitch and moan about... It’s working 🤦🏻 Trump's "10 to 20 percent terrifs" are going to wreck our economy. We import all of our shit. The stuff we do manufacturer here, they get their raw materials elsewhere. It'll make us an incredibly uncompetitive place to do business #2 is funny considering China is actually a communist country This is a really misleading headline. The article is talking about propaganda in the Chinese language that targets Chinese Americans, not propaganda from the Chinese government. Chinese language media ≠ CCP media. There is definitely overlap obviously, but there's also a large diaspora of Chinese speakers throughout the US, many of whom aren't associated with Mainland China and/or aligned with the CCP. My family is from mainland China and are very anti-CCP for our own reasons, but we noticed a lot of pro-TW/HK/Falun-gong groups (which are also anti-CCP obviously) we get exposed to via social media algorithms also end up having media that is very pro-Trump ultra-rightwing Chinese language Fox News-like, and parrot a lot of the associated talking points when it comes to US politics. “I’m fucked if Trump loses. *awkward forced laugh*” - Elon during Tucker interview The Chinese absolutely will spread those narratives if it means it gets easily-bought-out Trump into power. They can drive this country into chaos. Have Trump start a trade war that reignites out of control inflation, steal state secrets that reveal all sorts of national security secrets (spy networks, nuclear and other military plans, etc), have Trump fire vast swaths of competent federal workers, judges, and military leaders and install his incompetent cronies. It’s honestly winning a war against us without firing a single shot. Of course Trump would pull us out of Ukraine and ignore the Middle East. We’d abandon Taiwan and Europe would be isolated from its strongest ally. Technology, advanced research, AI advances, and advanced military technologies are all at risk of being given away to our mortal enemies. Add to that the Christo-Fascist, anti-woman, racist police state that’s a real possibility and you have a fucking nightmare future hanging in the balance. Happened last time, remember when trump drove up prices and ruined small businesses because he taxed basic supplies like steel and groceries? New research indicates that X, formerly Twitter, has overtaken WeChat, the most popular Chinese social media platform, in spreading disinformation about the US presidential elections and policies. The group Chinese for Affirmative Action (CAA), a US-based non-profit organization, released a report on August 26, 2024, called “Conspiracy Theories, Lies, & A.I.” which explored how right-wing disinformation in the Chinese American community is amplifying hate speech ahead of the November 2024 election. Researchers found much of the disinformation released over the past year is meant to stoke fears of communism, cast doubt on the integrity of the US elections, and laud former US President Donald Trump, the 2024 Republican presidential candidate. The 2024 US Presidential Elections will be held on November 5th. Ahead of the elections, news has consistently emerged about foreign political influence in American politics, in particular Russia, Iran, and China, through disinformation operations. Last month, the US government accused Russia of running a disinformation campaign to mislead US voters and interfere in the elections. Researchers from Human Rights Watch also observed that communities of color are more vulnerable to disinformation operations due to their shared traumatic experiences. In addition, as many immigrants obtain information in languages other than English, they are often subjected to mistranslations of news. Because it's not actually Chinese disinformation/conspiracy theories but rather Chinese American disinformation/conspiracy theories. Go read the report the article cites yourself. It's the same talking points used by right wing outlets but just translated into Chinese to lobby for the immigrant vote. They have even less to gain from someone who can't be paid in exchange for classified documents or favors. I would trust the Kamala administration to defend Taiwan over Trump's backstabbing ass any day, and I'm sure Taiwan at large feels the same way regarding the man who already betrayed the Kurds. Trump has already had damning interaction with Chinese businessmen and has proven that he sells himself to the highest bidder and the greatest flatterer, and propelling him to the forefront has the added benefit of creating even more political instability and civil unrest in the US. The choice for China is quite clear, and boy do they like to play god. Biden is also waging a trade war, he's just doing it competently. Instead of trying to 1v1 China in a world economy, he's bringing friends.

2024-10-08 16:15:14

More than 100M people of faith could sit out 2024 election: study.

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Title: More than 100M people of faith could sit out 2024 election: study. Body: Top Comments: [deleted] If we have learned nothing else from 2016, this should be the takeaway. Never get complacent. Always keep fighting. 158.4M people voted in 2020. Are they seriously suggesting 100M of those won’t vote and only 58.4M will vote? Unless a lot of them didn’t vote in 2020 either. Seems off… That is exactly what it sounds like. I live in the bible belt and I can assure everyone that the bible thumpers WILL vote and vote republican. We can win IF we turn out and vote. Yeah, I regret not voting in all the previous elections. Granted, I was a resident of CA and typically it always aligned with who I wanted. Now I live in Idaho and it will probably stay red but I want Kamala Harris to have as many votes as possible to make a point. Awesome! And don't forget to vote Yes on Idaho's Proposition 1 that will allow ranked choice voting! >It's low hanging fruit for pastors as they try to motivate those congregants to carry out their civic duty and honor God through their influence for things that matter in our culture. Sounds like an establishment clause violation... Just check out Fox or Newsmax. These people honestly believe they are on a holy crusade. They will literally cut themselves and vote with their blood if required to do so. Anything implying otherwise is 100% - in the inimitable words of Alex Jones - a false flag op. Yep. The evangelical right has an over 90% voter turnout rate. If liberals voted like that we'd never see a Republican majority again. Bull. Shit. Christians bearing false witness. Again. Yeah, they're just talking about all the people who didn't vote in 2020 either. If 158.4M people voted in 2020, then approximately 180M people didn't vote. Some of those are children or atheists, so that leaves about 100M "people of faith" who could have voted but didn't. This article is just doing the same thing that we always do when we say that if all young people voted, we'd win in a landslide. It's true but useless information. I just saw a sign about it in Mountain Home, along with all the Trump signs everywhere. It said something like ranked choice is confusing and expensive and to vote no… its crazy how easy it is to get people to vote against their own interests. Religious people may be gullible, but they are the worst kind of gullible: Gullible and MOTIVATED BY THE PROMISE OF MYTHOLOGICAL ETERNAL REWARD.  This is terrible, propagandist clickbait. VOTE VOTE VOTE I just saw a billboard in Post Falls that reads "Don't Californicate Idaho! Vote No on Prop 1!" Morons. Yeah, what? Sure, they *could* sit it out. They *could* all be struck by lightning, or be taken up by the rapture. Doesn’t change a thing what they could do. Only thing that matters is what *we* do. you mean the evangelical wrong lol And you just know if it passes, Republicans will block it anyway. It's probably true, though it is definitely misleading, and is based on the sliding definition of "people of faith". When they need big numbers ("America is a Christian nation"), they count everyone who is even nominally Christian. When they need small numbers ("Christians are oppressed"), they count everyone who shares their religious-political agenda. So there probably are millions of "Christians" (i.e. people who show up to church occasionally, and say they go a lot more often, and claim they don't sleep through it) who aren't voting, and those people are the mainstream American disinterested voters who "forget" to vote every election cycle. Depends how they word it. Going out and voting, fine. Going out and voting for the orange god king instead of the baby-eating crazy woman who's spitting in the face of god by daring to try leading a country instead of being in the kitchen where god intended her to be, less fine.

2024-10-10 15:05:24

Democrats in Pa. approach 2024 election with slimmest voter registration advantage in decades

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Title: Democrats in Pa. approach 2024 election with slimmest voter registration advantage in decades Body: Top Comments: I’m a PA Republican and I voted for Harris! Not from PA but found this interesting about the comments: The person claiming to be a Republican voting for Harris has recent comment history defending McCormick and getting heavily down voted for it leading me to believe that they genuinely are a Republican voting for Harris. Of the two people I found in the comments claiming to be dems voting for Trump, I went through their comment history and found no evidence of them agreeing with any dem policies. Both have transphobic comments. One called Michelle Obama “big mike” and the other has comments bullying young trans people. Both are active in a Jordan Peterson memes sub, both talk about leftists in a negative manner and both have pro Trump comments pre dating Harris joining the race. Really, both are indistinguishable from a hardcore maga account leading me to believe they are not genuinely dems voting for Trump. Also, both have comments rating barely legal girls on attractiveness and one commented on a post about rating a 16 year old based on attractiveness. I know a lot of people in my family (registered republican) who aren’t even voting so the number of registered doesn’t matter, and democrats I know are DEF voting bc we don’t want another Hillary situation to happen. Here’s hoping they stick to not voting 🤞 Thank you for your service to democracy! 🫡 I'm an AZ republican and I voted straight blue. I mean, Keri Lake? Foooooooooook no. [deleted] I’m a newly registered democrat and first time voter. I wish I had voted sooner I already voted entirely blue. Conservative against Trump checking in here too May we rid Trump from the GOP by giving him a big L Thank you for your service to authoritarianism! 🫡 Thanks for investigatory diligence It's much more about voter turnout which so far is showing really good signs in early mail especially since we aren't in the middle of a pandemic and there is a noticeable shift back to in person election day voting expected. If the numbers continue we might get a larger turnout than 2020 which would favor democrats. That stands on a lot of ifs but turnout always matters more than registration. Hillary Clinton is the reason we have Donald Trump. Hillary was the antichrist to Republicans and she was a greasy candidate for a lot of democrats. People were sick and tired of the same old 'guaranteed' candidate. Donald Trump was the brick thru the window candidate in 2016. He's still riding on that unhinged, no rules candidate. Except he barely won in 2016, was soundly defeated in 2020 (facts don't care about your feelings on this), and is highly unpopular in 2024. The only reason this race seems close is because the media wants it to be. I don't know many people from PA, but the ones I do know who previously voted for Trump are sitting this election out. PA is gonna be blue again Thank you for choosing country before party. I hope your party cleans house in the next few years.  Yeah, there was a guy in another chat saying he was a Democrat and met Erin McClelland at a wedding and that she's a snob, and despite being a life long dem he'll vote for Garrity. He was upvoted by 20 The entirety of his comment history was defending Jan 6th and trump. People lie on the internet. it flabbergasts me the amount of times I've seen right wing nut jobs and just the most racist, degenerate misogynistic people cross streams on social media. I know Hate is their forte... and it saddens me Is that what he said? Can confirm. Both husband and I are Libertarians voting for Kamala et al... Only if he appeals to independents and pulls a few Democrats. This independent will not be voting for the guy who spreads lies when he loses elections, steals/hides classified documents, bribes foreign powers to dig dirt on US citizens, insults half our population, mocks military service, and borrows rhetorical devices from Hitler. I can also imagine being stupid enough not to vote for Hillary Clinton.

2024-10-12 23:31:14

Why is the 2024 Election so close?

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Title: Why is the 2024 Election so close? Body: I have no idea if I’m posting here correctly or if you’re even allowed to post about the 2024 election. I’m sure this may even get posted here every day? But I’m genuinely asking: how is it possible that the USA election is so close? To me, the situation could not be more clear that Americans must vote for Kamala Harris in order to ensure America remains a democracy and people have a say in who their leaders are, and it doesn’t even feel like that’s an opinion anymore, it feels like it’s a fact. Trump tried to overturn the 2020 election. He led a violent mob of his supporters on January 6th 2021 to the Capitol to stop the certification of the 2020 election. Both him and JD Vance refuse to admit that Joe Biden clearly, concisely, and legally won the 2020 election. These are undeniable facts. Do the American people not know this?? I am even willing to admit that the Democrats may not even have the best policy positions for the American people and and Republicans might be better for America and the world on foreign policy. But when you conflate that with who is leading the Republican Party, shouldn’t it not even matter whose policy positions are better?? What prompted this was watching Meet the Press this morning and seeing them talk about how this election is basically tied, and I just do not understand how that is!! So with all of this being said, why is the US election close? How is it that every American has not seen the overwhelming facts and evidence that I have seen? Top Comments: [removed] The majority, that is. Don't forget all of us blues in red state cities. It's not. Pollsters are still weighting their surveys using the data from the last election, which was pre-January 6th and obviously, pre-Kamala as the nominee. Democrats have defied election predictions for the last few cycles (thank you, Dobbs decision) and will continue to do so. Even before Dobbs, when Democrats turn out (and they will), they win. (Yay! I triggered a Trumper and got a downvote!) We appreciate you! Holding up your states while surrounded by crazies! Trump's voters believe his presidency will be good for them. That's it. They don't feel that the Democrats have their best interest at heart, and Trump and the Republicans have convinced them they would do better. Threatening democracy doesn't matter to them because they don't feel they've done well under it. I learned that during COVID. I’m literally surrounded by really really stupid people who have no clue how stupid they are. Didn’t anyone pay attention in their high school health and biology classes? I attribute their stupidity to teenage use of weed and alcohol while their brains were still being formed. This. Plus pollsters have talked about being wrong on Trump multiple times now. Most traditional polls were always under what he actually got. Ive read that some have actually added in a Trump weight just to try and make it closer. So hes basically tied in polls that are designed to give him an advantage. Russia - "smoke and mirrors" - No, it wasn't. Trump's Attorney General fundamentally mischaracterised the conclusions of the report and refused to make the full text public. The writers of the report have said very, very clearly that the official conclusion does not reflect their findings. Vaccine - "Sold as a surefire fix" - No, it wasn't. It was sold as a desperate solution to stop tens of millions of people dropping dead in the street. It was never billed as being 100% effective, not by **anyone** with the right to make such claims, and it was **always** presented as something for which boosters would likely be needed. **Nobody** said Covid would totally die out. I can find you interviews and press conferences from Feb 2020 with prominent scientists saying the most likely outcome would be that Covid weakens and enters the primary human disease pool with other coronavirus strains, which is exactly what has happened. Biden - Yup Trump - Trump _does_ have those moments. It's just that where Biden was like your grandpa with dementia who nods off halfway through a conversation and wanders off to the shops without is pants on, Trump is like your grandpa who thinks that it's 1947 and spouts a continuous stream of unceasing senseless utter bullshit. The reaction has been predictable. Sleepy grandpa was put to bed, and we politely smile and nod along with stupid insane grandpa while we wait for him to die. Border - "she was in charge" - Nope, wrong again! It was never executive policy or vice presidential policy. The responsibility of figuring out **how** to control the border was given to her, and she oversaw that planning inside the appropriate departments. The executive branch then asked Congress for approval for the necessary changes. **Republicans** voted against the legislation, while **Demcorats** voted for it. In spite of this, deportations were higher in 2021, 2022, and 2023 than they had been since 2004 under Bush. More than double that of Trump's highest year. Riots - "Cities were burning for months" - No. They weren't. This is a complete fabrication invented by a Russian troll farm, leaning into the unrest from 48 hours of BLM, and eaten up by the right wing sphere on social media, then expanded by Infowars, then finally presented on Fox. The impression you have of that time period in those cities is a **complete fabrication**. Your impression of life in those cities today is likely to be utterly false if you believe the first lie. Between May and August there were more than 10,600 protests for BLM. Over 10,100 were entirely and completely peaceful. Only 570 involved **any** form of violence. In 290 of those, later court proceedings found false flag operations by right wing militia had set off the violence. Of the remaining 280, less than 50 saw property destruction, and most were confined to one or two city blocks. Less than 20 saw fires and arson. 6 of those were false flag, with 4 being confirmed as set by members of the Proud Boys (now in jail for arson). End of democracy - "End of democracy as we know it" - Yeah. It was. Since Jan 6th (and before), roughly 70% of the population no longer has confidence that their vote will be properly counted, on one side or the other. That represents a fundamental breakdown in faith in democracy, and the end to democracy as we know it. **As we know it**. From Jan 6th forwards, it has been less about policy discussion and more about personal grievance. Less about votes and more about finding excuses to exclude people from voting. Less about people with opinions finding a mutual future and more about people viewing one another as enemies to be destroyed. Democracy as we knew it _is gone_. Democracy going forwards will be very, very different, or dead entirely if certain sectors of power get their way (Project 2025). Media Trust - "They don't trust the media" - Well... Yeah. Half the media exaggerates and ignores, the other half makes shit up entirely and broadcasts flat out party political propaganda, and the half doing the bullshit is telling its audience that everyone else is making up bullshit while firehosing them with bullshit. You are the _perfect_ example. In a tirade based around distrust of the media, you spouted not one but _six_ beliefs which you hold which are either entirely false, or severely mischaracterised, and they are _all_ mischaracterisations presented by _one_ media company. So... You are here complaining about distrust, while being a person who only believes one source! The only way a person comes to hold those six particular false beliefs is by watching a very specific tuned media source. If it weren't so dangerous, it would be funny. Democracy requires an _informed population_, and right now the media and politicians are free to lie as much as they want. Not talking about exaggeration or false promises of a rosy future. Not talking about dodging questions about how to pay for policy decisions. Talking about a presidential candidate claiming immigrants are eating pets. A prominent elected official claiming the government are creating hurricanes. Claiming FEMA are ignoring communities damaged by storms. Claiming, claiming, claiming. Never any evidence, because there can't be, because **it's just bullshit they make up to make you angry**. Truly happens every election, the media really wants a horse race, clicks and drama so the polls always "tighten up" before the election. It makes sense why this election is close, especially when you look at how the media’s been handling things. People aren’t just thinking about January 6th or Trump’s 2020 election stuff. They’re seeing an economy with rising prices, worrying about national security, and getting frustrated with the way issues have been covered by the media. Take Russia Gate, for instance. The media ran with that story for years, pushing the idea that Trump was in bed with Russia, but after all the investigations, it turned out to be mostly smoke and mirrors. And then there’s the vaccine efficacy story: they sold the vaccine as a surefire fix, but now we’re on boosters and people are still catching COVID. Joe Biden’s mental health is another one—he’s had plenty of slip-ups and times where he seemed totally out of it, but the media hardly touches it. If Trump had done half of that, it would’ve been front-page news nonstop. Or look at the Afghanistan withdrawal—that was a disaster. We left behind Americans, billions in equipment, and soldiers were killed. But after a little coverage, it just disappeared from the headlines. Then there’s Kamala Harris and the border. First, she was in charge; then, she wasn’t. The media barely held her accountable for that mess. And the one-sided coverage of the riots—in 2020, cities were burning for months, and it was called “mostly peaceful.” January 6th happened in a few hours, and it’s painted as the end of democracy as we know it. It’s this kind of inconsistency that makes people tune out and not trust what they’re being told. The bottom line is, people vote on what they care about, and for a lot of Americans, they’ve got bigger issues on their minds than the latest headline. They don’t trust the media to tell them the full story, so they’re focused on the economy, national security, and protecting their rights. That’s why this election is close—everyone’s got their own perspective, and they’re not all buying the same narrative. Who would have guessed there are literally 10s of millions of crazies in the USA!  Interesting, I have an Ivy League PhD and assumed their stupidity was fueled by a lack of weed and psychedelics in adolescence. I generally feel much stupider after having to interact with a lifelong teetotaler with zero perspective or experience. I think crackheads are more knowledgeable. I agree. My gut tells me Democrats are going to do well due to the last few cycles. I really hope I’m not delusional The Trump campaign *did* enthusiastically engage with Russian agents—this is all clearly laid out in the Mueller report, which was unable to exonerate Trump. Nobody should be OK with this. The complaint about the COVID vaccine is a decades-old anti-vaxxer trope, relying on a Nirvana fallacy, falsely assuming that if a solution is not flawless, it is entirely worthless. The vaccines helped save millions of lives and prevented far worse outcomes. It's dishonest to paint it as a failure because it wasn’t 100% perfect. No vaccine is 100% effective, for that matter. As for Biden, yes, he has moments of cognitive slip-ups, but Trump has shown himself to be erratic, impulsive, and completely incapable of handling criticism or making decisions without personal vendettas. Trump’s behavior is symptomatic of more than just aging—it’s a personality disorder with a side of declining mental faculties. On Kamala and the border, they said, "First, she was in charge; then, she wasn’t," but no—that’s completely inaccurate. She was tasked with addressing the root causes of migration from Central America, not “in charge” of border enforcement. The border crisis is complex and predates this administration, but simplifying it into a hit job on Kamala is just disingenuous. The Afghanistan withdrawal was a tragedy, no doubt, but let's be clear: Trump set the stage for that disaster with his reckless negotiation with the Taliban. He made a deal that set unrealistic deadlines for the U.S. to withdraw and sidelined the Afghan government entirely. By the time Biden came into office, the options were severely limited—Trump had essentially handed the country over to the Taliban on a silver platter. Biden was left to manage the fallout of that poorly crafted agreement. It was far from an ideal situation, but to act as if Trump had no part in it is just wrong. And finally, this statement: "Cities were burning for months, and it was called ‘mostly peaceful.’ January 6th happened in a few hours, and it’s painted as the end of democracy as we know it." This is an incredible distortion. The protests in 2020 were largely peaceful, despite isolated cases of rioting. But January 6th was a violent attempt to overthrow the results of a democratic election—a direct attack on the seat of government. It wasn’t just another protest. It was an assault on democracy itself -- *a violation of millions of voters* -- and downplaying that fact is reckless. But they sure do like "socialist" FEMA and other bailouts when the SHTF. Doesn't keep them from making up all sorts of stories about "those" people controlling the weather, and FEMA giving out checks to illegal immigrants, blah, fucking blah. Everyone cares about all those things. Its not just Republicans. They just seem very shallow about their reasoning. Why are the prices rising? Is it because our federal treasury printed funny money for years? We needed a stimulus, that much is true. Did they go to far? Its a tough question for both sides. But just blaming inflation on Biden like Trump didn't have a single hand in it is just dumb. Like head in the sand, la la la dumb. How do you debate willful ignorance? Sounds similar to "vote blue no matter who" fandom Trump won in 2016, narrowly lost in 2020 and now in 2024 we're wondering why, the same guy, has a shot at winning? >He led a violent mob of his supporters on January 6th 2021 to the Capitol That's called a lot of enthusiastic voters. Well and the idea of sports competition. It’s their team and they will cheer for it as long as the competitor is a rival. I'm very much counting on women coming out in large numbers to make this happen.

2024-10-13 16:43:17

I would absolutely love for this moment to go down in history as the moment Donald Trump lost the 2024 election.

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Title: I would absolutely love for this moment to go down in history as the moment Donald Trump lost the 2024 election. Body: There's plenty of other reasons. But just the thought of opening the history books and seeing this would be priceless. Top Comments: I would also like it as the day Elon lost all "LEFT" buyers of his Tesla cars, stock and users of X. Yes, exactly. Let's see how many "RIGHT" buyers there are for Teslas. Lol. X has become nothing more than TruthSocial 2.0. Which is so wild bc 5 years ago no right winger would have considered a tesla [deleted] He hasn't lost anything yet. They will sink to any depths to steal this election. We must not be complacent, and we must push for as many blue voters as possible.  https://preview.redd.it/gz8r0dgn0xud1.jpeg?width=756&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a97a996ba1d539a769fb72e496a88c7bac437e10 Elon's picture for the history books. This looks like the ! on the Jeb! campaign in 2016 They are buying $80k vehicles which insurers are refusing to insure. I love right wingers setting their money on fire. Elon's 'manager': okay Leln, I mean Elon. Just go out there and don't be socially awkward and for the love of God, don't make your creepy face. Elon: okay, bet. It's definitely in the top five, but he lost the election in Chicago when he said, Harris turned black lol is the cyber truck going to be the new lifted Chevy, specially outfitted to roll coal, and proudly flying a traitor’s flag? Trump makes billionaires jump for joy. He’s on something….his movements are awkward, even for him…. https://preview.redd.it/54p0skmfyyud1.jpeg?width=1152&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=931393b9ae4c5c641c7324b2192bda3baa31c58d Reminded me of Tom Cruise on Oprah. [https://youtu.be/9ZDAnKafr6c?si=YWcCNIdv2ziwPZeZ](https://youtu.be/9ZDAnKafr6c?si=YWcCNIdv2ziwPZeZ) He hasn’t lost anything yet, VOTE!!!! Right. The moment corporate America finally opted out of the Elon myth. Oh Donald, you're so fine You're so fine You blow my mind Hey, Donald! Hey Donald! https://preview.redd.it/xjfnuyiewxud1.png?width=1061&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd4622420ac3ba76ce2f4bbf8c87ad4e070d4c70 Elon musk has turned into the king of cringe https://preview.redd.it/oeoz3zgw10vd1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f88794d3c1bca1954e15b5ddf4fa4ffbf11e48f6

2024-10-15 11:35:04

The moderators at r/trans endorse Kamala Harris for President of the United States (2024 US Election Megathread)

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Title: The moderators at r/trans endorse Kamala Harris for President of the United States (2024 US Election Megathread) Body: TW: Links to bigoted and/or upsetting statements and policies After lengthy discussion, the moderation team here has decided this election is too important to stand by without making a statement. As the moderators for a global community of a marginalized group of people, we are acutely aware of the political situation in the US. One of two major parties will win in this next election and one of those two parties is [actively](https://apnews.com/article/lgbtq-transgender-republicans-trump-christian-conservatives-election-83becc009d8123d96a75c2e4940ab339) [attacking](https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/rnc-speakers-lean-homophobic-transphobic-rhetoric-rcna162505) [us](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-speaker-transgender-people-eradicated-1234690924/) and our community and [actively rolling back our rights](https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/anti-trans-legislative-risk-assessment-3dc), while the other is working to [enact protections for us](https://www.hrc.org/resources/president-bidens-pro-lgbtq-timeline). This election will be incredibly important to the safety and future of not only ourselves and all other minority groups, but also anyone else who wants to leave a livable planet for future generations. If you aren't in-tune with the plans for [Project 2025](https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained), then now is the time to learn about it. And for those saying Trump has denounced it, here's some info on what his replacement plan [Agenda 47](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/17/trumps-agenda-47-project-2025/74439445007/) is, as well as info on [who he picked to be in his cabinet](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-says-project-2025-author-coming-onboard-if-elected-1966334). Please don't think any of this is hypothetical either. Trump did [a lot of work](https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of-trumps-unprecedented-steps-for-the-lgbtq-community) to position the party to [act on all of this](https://www.axios.com/2022/06/24/obergefell-supreme-courts-roe-wade-ruling-privacy) if he takes office again. And the party is [already working](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-jan-6-committee-chair-rep-bennie-thompson-calls-capitol-riot-the-culmination-of-an-attempted-coup) to [delegitimize](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/11/roger-stone-election-polling-stations) [this election](https://www.vox.com/2020/3/21/21188152/trump-cancel-november-election-constitution-coronavirus-vote-by-mail), and [likely future ones](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-suggests-hell-use-the-military-on-the-enemy-from-within-the-u-s-if-hes-reelected) in the process. For those planning to just sit out entirely, that's actually what Republicans are hoping for. They know they can't win you over, so instead they need you to not vote Democrat. Remember that this is all a numbers game. An undecided voter is worth a +2 point swing to a candidate they vote for, and -2 if they vote for the opposing party, but only a +/-1 vote swing if they don't vote or vote 3rd party. This is why [Jill Stein’s](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/10/09/abandon-harris-stein-michigan-arab-american-voters/75561456007/) and [RFK Jr’s](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-ballot-battleground-states/) campaigns both want your vote. With all of this in mind, we wholly endorse Kamala Harris for President of the United States. [Here is her platform on LGBTQ+ rights](https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/why-a-harris-presidency-promises-hope-for-lgbtq-rights), so you may read up on her more. If you haven't registered to vote, please go to [vote.org](https://www.vote.org/) to do so for your state. Additionally, if you haven't checked this year, please go there and verify your registration, as many people have been removed from the voter roster in many states. You can also use this site to help request a mail-in ballot for those who might have difficulty getting to their assigned polling stations. As a reminder, our subreddit rules do still apply here. We will not tolerate bigotry or major arguments in the comments, and election discussion is to stay within this thread. Discussion of political or election topics that are not trans or LGBTQ+ related are not appropriate here. Top Comments: I’m super scared for this election. I can’t vote yet (I’m only 16) so I’m putting all my trust in people to vote for her and give me a shot at life since if trump wins I won’t be able to transition and I don’t know what’ll happen to me. Yep. Voted for her last week. I'm just terrified of what happened with Labour in the UK happening here. We're already seeing signs of some democrats (Allred, Brown) being willing to throw us under the bus. It's giving me bad omen vibes. Harris and Walz at some point need to come out unequivocally for trans rights and push for the updated Equality Act. It can be after the election is done, but it needs to happen. We all are. Hugs. We're stronger together! Mods, thank you so much for this. I’m so worried about the state of the discourse in the queer community, and moreso in the trans community. It feels like far too many people are willing to stand by and watch the hate engulf this country and don’t realise just what is at stake. Yes, both positions on Gaza aren’t satisfactory. But the GOP’s is worse. Much, much worse; even the Uncommitted Movement acknowledges that. Add onto that Trump saying he’ll “force Ukraine to make a deal” and the Project 2025 agenda on Queer people and it’s a clear choice. Vote for Kamala Harris, everyone. I know I will. They went full TERF and took up the Cass review recommendations that call for a ban on transition. Yeah I agree that the Democrats aren't perfect but compared to the pure evil on the Republican side it's such an easy choice. I feel hope that Tim Walz will help guide through some of trans policies. I feel hope for Kamala Harris winning 🤞 There are no viable 3rd party candidates this election. This is not the year of the 3rd party. This is the year to defeat Republicans. Vote! Same. I keep getting into arguments with people on reddit (who are SOOO PROGRESSIVE) that claim there's no trans genocide and Trump won't do anything. I know reddit is a cesspool but it feels two faced to see people talking about how progressive they are snub us first chance they get. I'm scared for the election, but I'm hoping the universe rights itself and we get the good ending. This is a valid question the mods brought up during our discussion of whether or not to post this. At the moment, we haven't decided if we are going to take a stand on other candidates and elections around the world. We made an exception this time because of how impactful this particular election is going to be to not just the trans people in the United States, but also how the next president can and will affect things around the world. Whether or not it is right, the United States has the power to lead the world in the direction it wants by being a representative of what it thinks human rights should look like, and if Project 2025 goes into action, it could be as potentially world-changing for the queer community around the world as the Cass Review was for the UK. If one superpower says our human rights don't matter, it gives other countries leverage to use us against our allies. i’m not from the US, so i can’t vote, but if you’re trans and you don’t vote for Kamala you are a dumbass Worse yet is the self-proclaimed progressives who refuse to vote because both the candidates are bad (in spite of the fact that Trump is obviously much worse than Harris). I'd come up with some exaggerated metaphor to poke fun at the situation, but I can't - the real situation is already too bloody stupid. 3rd parties are never viable. They don't have electors who can actually vote for them if they win. They're just spoilers. Always have been. And again, I voted last week blue up and down the ticket. I guess we'll see. I'm not particularly feeling it with Harris' comments on appointing republicans in her cabinet and showing up on stage with Liz Cheney of all people considering Cheney voted 90% of the time in lockstep with Nazi MAGA. It's making me extremely nervous actually. And RFK Jr belongs to the worm that ate part of his brain. Sending love and good luck to all our friends in the US I’m proud y’all said something. Kamala 2024 There are a number of things I don't like about Harris, but there is too much at stake to not vote for her. Trump must be stopped Blaire white, buck angel, Caitlin Jenner, unfortunately they do exist Realistically, is there any other possible choice? Stein belongs to Russia and isn't a serious candidate. Trump belongs to Russia and also wants to kill us.  I saw one of those shorts where one person acts out multiple roles about that. Basically pointing out that Gaza will not get better with republicans in control, and likely get even worse, while domestically so many minority groups, queer specifically, are left to rot meaning there's even less people working to pressure on Gaza because there are problems *here* that effect *us*. For that matter, what republicans have been doing in red states, and calling for doing nationally, also fits the definition for genocide when it comes to trans people. I care about what is happening to the Palestinians, but I can't ignore the target on my own back, and the backs of my friends and the rest of the community, for them. Like, pressuring is fine, but this kind of tactic where you vote for another candidate or whatever is only useful in the primary. I get this time around was odd with Biden dropping out, but refusing to vote. voting third party, or anything but a vote for the democrats in a general is support for literal fascism at this point. Genuine question since I'm in the USA, what happened with Labour Party in the UK? To try and alleviate that worry a little (since I know how crushing these concerns can be), her website's policy page has an endorsement of the Equality Act on it, and her record suggests she probably will not pivot after being elected. From her website (https://kamalaharris.com/issues/) under the heading "Protect Civil Rights and Freedoms": >Her Administration will also continue to protect Americans from discrimination, building on her work to secure $2 billion in funding for Offices of Civil Rights across the federal government. And as President, she’ll always defend the freedom to love who you love openly and with pride.  In 2004, she officiated some of the nation’s first same-sex marriages and as Attorney General, she refused to defend California’s anti-marriage equality statewide referendum. As President, she’ll fight to pass the Equality Act to enshrine anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQI+ Americans in health care, housing, education, and more into law.  Plus here is GLAAD's accountability tracker on Harris's record: [https://glaad.org/harris-accountability-tracker/](https://glaad.org/harris-accountability-tracker/) As well as GLAAD's accountability tracker on Walz's record: [https://glaad.org/releases/glaad-responds-to-kamala-harris-choice-of-minnesota-governor-tim-walz-for-vice-president/](https://glaad.org/releases/glaad-responds-to-kamala-harris-choice-of-minnesota-governor-tim-walz-for-vice-president/)

2024-10-16 11:33:58

Lewis Black Has a Message For Undecided Voters in the 2024 Election

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Title: Lewis Black Has a Message For Undecided Voters in the 2024 Election Body: Top Comments: There are no undecided voters at this point just people that don’t want to admit that they are voting for trump. You can vote for a “dictator on day one” that has stated multiple times he will use the military to persecute Americans that oppose him or you can vote to not have that. Pretty easy choice whether you like Kamala or not, a vote for trump is a vote against freedom and he has in no short terms told people that directly to their faces for the last 4 years and he has the immunity to do it now and he will, the only truth he is telling. A vote for trump installs supreme leader Vance to the communist party of the former USA. I feel like the term “undecided” is misleading. It’s always portrayed as people intending to vote but haven’t decided for whom yet. However there are also people who normally would go out and vote but are undecided whether they’re motivated enough to do it… For example, hearing reports that certain groups that voted reliably for Democratic candidates in the past being lukewarm about supporting Harris is a way scarier groups of “undecided” to me and what the Harris campaign should focus 100% on. Great segment, and he’s right That man got to 60 years old and said: "let's keep it right here". He looks good! https://preview.redd.it/ewehxnd5v6vd1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40dcb5f65c935265633c75032847adb657d22e2a I'm undecided.  I can't decide if I want to fight another 8 years and vote for Harris or give up and vote for Trump in some strange national suicide pack.  Thank you Lewis for saying the quiet thing out loud. Everyone, please listen to the old yeller. There’s validity in this observation and assessment, but I would even extend it to some not wanting to admit they are voting for Harris either. I believe there are probably a few true “undecided” voters, but probably much less than may be advertised at the moment. For a good portion of them (not all), it’s more of a type of self-preservation action as opposed to being undecided. They don’t want to deal with comments, interactions, etc. with others they know and may have voiced support for the opposite candidate. That's Trump's goal: wear you down until you give up. We can't stop defending our country from people like him. Oh, so America is just another one of his sexual assault victims. \*pact You are absolutely right, I live in the south, I don’t even want to think about talking politics but just by the way I cringe when I hear anything about trump tells people who I’m voting for but when asked I just shrug and say they are both crazy https://preview.redd.it/bfkbotoif7vd1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b994013561e78860153d71f24a59d174057e15dd I think my spelling says a lot about me.  They most certainly have the right to sit it out, but they better keep that shit to themselves if they don’t like the outcome. To feel special with their ignorant and paste eating lives. Undecided voters at this point are just attention seekers. No, there are legitimately undecided voters who are likely to vote and are independents as well. They are baffling people. They aren’t undecided they are voting for Trump and don’t want anyone to know Fun fact: they're not undecided, they're proTrump but still haven't completely embraced overt racism and still choose to quietly vote to harm the most vulnerable among us.

2024-10-16 17:31:21

Kamala Harris agrees that Donald Trump is a fascist: ‘Yes, we can say that’ | US elections 2024

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Title: Kamala Harris agrees that Donald Trump is a fascist: ‘Yes, we can say that’ | US elections 2024 Body: Top Comments: Kamala is a smart woman. Excerpt: It is the first time Harris has publicly endorsed using the word fascist to describe Trump and his plan for governance, although it has been raised repeatedly by some observers as his campaign rhetoric and threats to jail his political opponents have grown more ominous. Her explicit approval of the word to describe Trump breaks new ground in a presidential campaign in which she has already criticised his warm relationship with the Russian leader, Vladimir Putin, and stated admiration for other foreign autocrats. - [Here’s Republican strategist and former Bush administration member David Frum’s explanation of why Trumpism is American fascism](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/theres-word-what-trumpism-becoming/619418/). (And [here](https://web.archive.org/web/20220614164430/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/theres-word-what-trumpism-becoming/619418/) is an archive link.) - [Here’s Republican strategist and former Bush administration member Michael Gerson’s explanation of same](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumpism-is-american-fascism/2021/02/01/c410f662-64b2-11eb-8c64-9595888caa15_story.html). (And [here](https://web.archive.org/web/20220330231836/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumpism-is-american-fascism/2021/02/01/c410f662-64b2-11eb-8c64-9595888caa15_story.html) is an archive link.) - [Here is a *literal expert on fascism* writing in Haaretz to explain the same](https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-trump-legacy-fascism-far-right-biden-1.9463419). (And [here](https://web.archive.org/web/20221225201346/https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2021-01-21/ty-article-opinion/.premium/trump-legacy-fascism-far-right-biden/0000017f-df2b-df9c-a17f-ff3b20380000) is an archive link.) - [Here is a whole goddamn playlist of funny-style videos about it](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkJemc4T5NYaTJVphMh1oGT5uYoKdFYzO), if reading isn’t your thing. - [Here is Umberto Eco's essay "Ur-Fascism"](https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/); here it is [as a PDF](https://archive.org/details/umberto-eco-ur-fascism/) if you hit a paywall. Here is [a brief summary](https://interglacial.com/pub/text/Umberto_Eco_-_Eternal_Fascism.html). I dare anyone to read that and *honestly* say it doesn't remind you almost entirely of MAGA. Yup. Anyone who disagrees needs to just look at the attempt at a fake electoral college. That alone is game over for anyone who thinks he isn't a fascist. It's very fitting If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck... [removed] Give them space. You've got to remember that these are just simple people. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know . . . morons. I could use a laugh. Define Marxism and communism and explain the differences between the two. Republicans are already wearing fascism like a badge, like they do with racism and sexism. This is pretty big news. If a centrist liberal candidate, the most mild-mannered of all of God's creatures, is calling their opponent a fascist, then that's going to light a fire under every liberal in the country. They're all well-aware of what fascism is but they all thought it's something that happens *over there* or *in the past*, not *right here, right now*. Marxism and communism are two differing and opposing political movements. Why the fuck, after 8 years of these troglodytes burying their heads in the sand at every juncture, would you bother putting together sources for this moron? They come in these threads and bait people into arguing with them because they know damn well you’re gonna put in 50x the effort they will and waste your time. This dude, like every other Trump cultist, couldn’t give the slightest inkling of a fuck about facts and there is literally nothing you can do to change their mind. You could show them video evidence of Trump admitting he is a fascist and they would either keep denying it anyway or do mental gymnastics to suddenly make it a misunderstood ideology demonized by communists. Anyone still subscribing to or “on the fence about” the grift in 2024 is beyond saving. Stop feeding the trolls. Downvote them and ignore their existence until they crawl back into the holes they came out of. Doing anything else is akin to expecting something productive to come from talking to a 3 year old about calculus. I know it's bait: That's *exactly why* I cobbled that together long, *long* ago, and have it saved to a note in my phone. It saves time, *and* it means that the trolls aren't the only voices low-information social media users hear. > ignore their existence If *everyone* did that, you'd be right on the money. Sadly, though, they only *benefit* when people who know better ignore them, since there are plenty of people who *don't*. >a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that **exalts nation** **and often race** above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by **forcible suppression of opposition** [https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-fascist-talk-bloodbath-vermin-dictator-1234992957/](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-fascist-talk-bloodbath-vermin-dictator-1234992957/) >At a recent rally in Pennsylvania, Trump accused the Haitian arrivals of having “destroyed” Springfield, and vowed to “get them the hell out!,” causing the MAGA crowd at to erupt in chilling chants of, “[Send them back](https://x.com/atrupar/status/1838377945431196106)!” Your turn! Define Communism and Marxism and show us why it applies to Harris. I always ask people like them to define those words and for some reason they never reply. It's amazing how much they overuse buzzwords that they have no idea what they actually mean He *loves* the poorly educated. And they love him! You cannot be serious in posting this link. Please say sike, I’m absolutely begging you. Dude your boy had a mental fudgepacking moment as he just swayed to music for nearly an hour as onlookers observed confused like a day ago The whole maga movement relies on one sided rhetoric. When one side is talking policy and the other is making up nonsense about eating pets and weather control, it's not possible to actually have a conversation. Maga needs to be engaged with at it's own level. Kamala is making a small move here, but we can lean into it a bit more. Here's an example: the Maga movement is a terrorist organization. Any politician that has materially supported this movement should be removed from office at all levels of government. Criminal charges should be brought against Maga politicians for making terroristic threats and promoting violence. Anyone associated with maga should be investigated for child trafficking and pedophilia. All funding to Maga political infrastructure should be frozen and investigated for foreign influence. > Setting out the electoral options in the hourlong phone-in interview, Harris was initially cautious, telling her host that voters in the 5 November election “have two choices … and it’s two very different visions for our nation” before giving a vague definition of her vision. >  > Charlamagne then in effect goaded her into making a leap, saying: “The other is about fascism. Why can’t we just say it?” > > Harris immediately replied: “Yes, we can say that.”

2024-10-16 17:42:10

Election Subversion 2024: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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Title: Election Subversion 2024: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) Body: Top Comments: I felt the same way watching this as I did when they covered Project 2025 a few months ago. I knew things were bad, but when you hear the details and the mechanisms already underway, it's kind of terrifying. I still can't believe this country has reached this point. Believe it. No matter the outcome this November, the next few months are going to be hell. What’s crazy is Harris can steamroll her way to winning the popular vote by 20 million and the senile turd could still be crowned the presidency Winning the election is the bare minimum. You need enough votes to gain control of the House and the Senate, and actually enact reform, primarily on the out of control Supreme Court and the Judicial Branch. This is going to be a very painful three months and I don't expect things to calm down until March. The right's objective is to sow as much chaos as possible, even if they are losing badly, in the hopes that violence breaks out and at least some people die during the chaos. The best defense is to *vote*. Check your registration, make a plan, encourage others, turn up, cast your ballot, even if it takes 16 hours to do it. This is by far your most effective, efficient and *peaceful* option. The 2020 election couldn't be stolen not just because the guard rails held up, but we had record turnouts which made trying to cheat much much much harder. Even in locked down districts or completely hopeless districts, *your single vote matters*, especially in account of the collective. Election disinformation is going to be at a record high, **including advice to not vote**. Don't fall for propaganda designed to prey on cynicism and high mindedness. Everyone involved in trying to subvert the election should be tried and imprisoned. John Oliver is the GOAT. I watched the nyt podcast where he talks about his research team. They vet everything I think the GA courts struck down these rules, thankfully. Yea, thank fucking God. Having 3 people count 100,000+ ballots by hand (and reaching the exact same totals) in *one night* is absolute insanity. There's definitely a party trying to subvert and steal the election this year, and it's not the DNC. And what's also crazy is that senile turd could win by 180 million votes and scream that the election was rigged because he "obviously" won by over 200 million. Also, right now many states are already open for early voting. NC just started TODAY. So many of these polling stations are empty. Get in and get out. No lines. No waits. You could do it before work or during lunch or after work. Just vote. You have time. One of the best investigative teams in the business. And half of the research they do is all just for a punchline. It’s fabulous The thing that trips me up is how do they believe the results for the other elected positions (like representatives and Congress people) that are voted on using the same ballot, but they don't accept the results for the president? You cannot accept MKG was elected into her position while saying Democrats cheated to get Biden elected. > I still can't believe this country has reached this point. After 2016, and especially after January 6, I've been operating on the assumption that there is no bottom. Of course he's leftist. He has one of the best investigative teams in the business. [deleted] I really don’t understand how people could vote for a pedophile. Republicans could’ve picked any other candidate. Trump is a sexual predator. A pedophile, racist. fascist. He doesn’t care about anyone who’s voting for him. All he cares about is money and feeling powerful. He looks up to people like Putin because he thinks that they’re powerful and they can get away with whatever they want. That’s who that man strives to be. He doesn’t give a shit about anybody but himself. And especially after all the GOP congresspeople who ran scared for their lives during January 6 came back and said it was actually a good thing That’s actually as unlikely an outcome as her winning by 20 million, unfortunately. But, let’s stick with it….winning by 20 million votes would change a lot. That is far too many votes to legitimately challenge. No doubt they would do it, but the chance they could throw out so many is not feasible. Such a landslide would be a mandate that could hold through all the BS. And that’s why turnout is utterly key. Don’t just make a plan to vote. Just vote. Get out and record your pick. That turnout could create the acceptable margin that can survive all this BS, most especially in those battleground states. We all agree with you in this echo chamber. We need to get out of our bubble and into the bubble of Trump supporters with these words. It's only been temporarily delayed. It wasn't fully shut down. They can try again next year because the reason it's been struck down is because it was implemented too close to the election to change. It wasn't taken off the board entirely.

2024-10-17 11:00:53

Trump's legal team tried to keep Stormy Daniels quiet ahead of 2024 election, MSNBC reports

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Title: Trump's legal team tried to keep Stormy Daniels quiet ahead of 2024 election, MSNBC reports Body: Top Comments: Clearly this is election interference. Something something Hunters Laptop Why would he pay her to keep quiet about commenting he said never happened? That seems weird. He doesn't want people reminded he cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star. This is some weird deju vu going on here.... next thing you know I'll be hearing about golden showers and an email server He coincidentally offered her almost the same amount she owes for the recent defamation case against her. I think she should just crowd fund that and go out and make as much noise about this as possible. This is hard to understand ... until you remember Trump is a narcissist. He wants his win in 2016 to be down to his political, tactical decisions. And he's losing now, so he's trying to make the same ones again. Why did he win in 2016? Because of his personal orders to his team. How can he win again? With the same orders. Trump is the perfect Floridian, who can’t seem to escape from the storm. She already crowdfunded roughly the amount needed to pay him, during the normal back and forth on the exact amount, Trump's lawyers offered to settle for like $30,000 less than they claimed she owed, if Stormy would sign an NDA. They met in the middle and she signed nothing, but it's crazy that they tried to buy her silence again and in writing. Barbara Streisand has something to say about that Opleaseopleaseoplease. It seems like Trump's team is really trying to control the narrative before the election, but keeping things quiet like that just raises more questions. The chances that Trump has never paid for an abortion (with a side of an ironclad NDA) are statistically close to zero. Hunter's Laptop? Wait, are you saying that the real affair was between Hunter's Laptop and Stormy? Trump was completely faithful to Melania and this is just a frame up? We need to tell everyone! Quick, to the MAGA Mobile! 🚗💨 Wait...my brand new Bigly Trump Edition MAGA Mobile didnt come with seats...or an engine...who did this? Gasp! *Hunter's Laptop!* More like bastard abortion. Let Stormy speak! Let Stormy speak! Well put. It’s why he’s so easily baited and manipulated. Yeah just Laura Loomer… Nopuppetnopuppetyourethepuppet Same crime twice.  Can’t even make this shit up.  Let’s pummel this motherfucker once and for all. GO VOTE! I think it’s more than that.  My bet is there’s a bastard child with Stormy out there that he’s hiding. 

2024-10-17 12:46:21

Trump pleads with judge to stop Jan. 6 evidence from coming out before 2024 election

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Title: Trump pleads with judge to stop Jan. 6 evidence from coming out before 2024 election Body: Top Comments: His delay tactics caused it to be so close to an election,release the kraken I agree on a personal level, but that's not why the judge should release the information. Kind of the opposite. She should release it because it's procedure, her schedule now calls for it, and politics and the election *aren't* relevant here, which Trump's lawyers are arguing. People need to be informed on who they are voting for to not release it is undemocratic. I may have some details wrong so feel free to correct me, but this is my loose understanding of this whole saga: >SMITH: I would like to release this document explaining why the indictment withstands *Trump v. US*. >CHUTKAN: Fair enough. Does the defendant have any objections to the proposed redactions? >TRUMP: This is election interference!! >CHUTKAN: Okay, um, not really a legal argument, so I guess no objections to the redactions noted; released with Smith's redactions. >SMITH: We also have this massive appendix of evidence we would like to release. >CHUTKAN: Fair eno-- >TRUMP: Give me 7 days to figure out how to stop this. >---7 days later--- >TRUMP: This is election interference!! Somebody sounds scared... as if the initial evidence was bad enough, there must be something terrible in this next set of documents. Yet my whole family will vote for him and treat me like I’m the dummy because I won’t. If the evidence is NOT released it will alter the election. We all want to know as much as possible about our candidates, no? If it helps, a stranger on the internet thinks you're the only sane one in that family. Fair point, just seems crazy to have someone running in a democracy when there is evidence that hasn't been released where he tried to destroy that democracy. [deleted] It's my understanding from other legal sources that if Trump had made this objection sooner within the 7 day window, it might have had some effect, but now it would be extraordinary for the district court to stay Chutkan's current order, and even SCOTUS wouldn't likely touch it. The fact that he was more or less successful in running out the clock on his crimes - of which there were four *long* years leading up to - is absolute proof that the justice system has failed its society. No one is changing their mind with two weeks left on the clock. Garland needs to be replaced on **day one** of the Harris administration. Meanwhile, what are Kamala's thoughts on smoked vs non-smoked provolone, it's all hanging on that for me /s Stay tuned, SCOTUS may very well touch it. "The common sense of mankind demands that law shall not stop with the punishment of petty crimes by little people. It must also reach men who possess themselves of great power and make deliberate and concerted use of it to set in motion evils which leave no home in the world untouched." - Robert H. Jackson - Opening Statement before the International Military Tribunal - Nuremberg 1945 For sure, I do agree with the broader problem (SCOTUS) which is why it's so absurd Chutkan and Smith are even in this position and there wasn't a trial ~6 months ago. The whole Trump running thing shouldn't even happen. SCOTUS gutted the 14th Amendment to protect Trump. No one talks about that at all. My mom is on her death bed, literally (one less Trump vote—okay that was mean.) and I have to endure my siblings all day while waiting. I know today, my brother is going to corner me and I’m desperately trying to come up with something that puts him in his place without being too mean. And publicity was EVERYWHERE on Hillary, even though it ultimately led to absolutely nothing. Meanwhile, actual conspiracy and election interference is swept under the rug because of the R next to his name on the ballot. I don't understand why he cares so much. There is nothing that could possibly come out of this that would turn away the people already voting for him. If anything it helps him because the non-Fox news media will give it wall to wall coverage and let him suck all the oxygen out of the room.

2024-10-17 14:51:51

‘The public has been poisoned’: Trump tries one more time to stop Jack Smith’s Jan. 6 evidence from coming out ahead of 2024 election

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Title: ‘The public has been poisoned’: Trump tries one more time to stop Jack Smith’s Jan. 6 evidence from coming out ahead of 2024 election Body: Top Comments: Trump is the poison. I don't know why he bothers. His supporters are impervious to reality. This won't cost him any votes. What's more interesting is how fast Chutkan will give a ruling on this. She has been amazingly fast so far. >“If, as here, a prosecutor, during a highly contested political campaign, is granted leave to submit enormous filings publicly examining a President’s decision-making while in office, future Presidents will be far more reluctant to take the ‘bold and unhesitating action’ required of them,” the defense said. We have a president, not a dictator. I *want* the president to be reluctant to take bold and unhesitating action. We need more transparency from the president, we need the president to work for the people, and we need the president to be accountable to the people. Right?  Lies not working?  We’ll then lie harder.  Deny, deny and deny some more and then accuse your accuser of the the thing you did. Evidence?  Don’t need it if you scream loud enough.  Pretty easy and quick to deny what is essentially a reconsideration motion when there’s no new law or facts. > His supporters are impervious to reality. Yes, to the extent his devoted voters are concerned, nothing will detract them. He is more concerned about a handful of independents who can be swayed with further exposure. Alternatively, Trump hopes a win for him will bring a stop to all of this. I would be amazed if anyone who would vote for trump would be swayed by anything. People have made up their mind absolutely nothing the news says is going to change it. He is. He said some shit about how divided the country is now. I thinking, motherfucker, you did the dividing.  Her move thus far has been to ignore that an election exists. That’s the thing. I can’t even talk to trump believers anymore bc they have literally been poisoned. Nothing trump does is bad. Everything Kamala (pronounced incorrectly, obvs) is evil and bad. Like, you can’t even have a conversation anymore because they are completely detached from reality. Fuck Donald Trump and everything he has done to this nation. This was the same argument they used with SCOTUS. IANAL but if there anything to preventing Trump’s lawyers from releasing all their evidence defending Trump to the public? They all act as though he’s stone cold guilty all the time. But... The radical left wing is out to get him! They are making him look bad! It's political retaliation! /s She sees it like any other job a criminal defendant might have. They don’t have any, smoke screens and delays is the only tactic they have to get to an election and then leverage a JD pardon “but polls keep changing almost daily beyond the margin of errors; so, something is going on” The polls are currently being flooded with right wing polls formulated deliberately to make it seem that the GOP is doing better than they are. They also did this in 2020 and 22 where a red wave prediction completely collapsed. https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/09/political-strategist-heres-how-gops-phony-polls-will-help-trump-with-the-big-lie.html?outputType=amp Having said this, the more nefarious intention behind this strategy is to allow plausibility when Trump lies about the rigged election. Infuriating! If someone hasn't been swayed by everything that's already out there, I doubt this will make a difference. He'll just deny it all and play the victim for the 11,287,944th time. If he wins, all the federal charges go away. He need not hope. He will make it happen. The DOJ will drop all the charges. Motions for reconsideration are not appealable. Thats how I feel about him saying he'll be "the protector" of women, motherfucker, you and your cronies are the ones women need protecting from.

2024-10-17 15:03:51

Texas Newspaper Endorsements for the 2024 election (Early voting begins 10/21)

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Title: Texas Newspaper Endorsements for the 2024 election (Early voting begins 10/21) Body: Top Comments: Statesman Rep: *The Austin American Statesman prefers not to endorse anyone in this 2024 election…* What about Ted Cruz? ***Yo, F&€K TED CRUZ!!!!*** Telegram Rep: *humming a angelic Hymnal* Not a single large paper in Texas will endorse the Convict. Hey y’all! You might remember me from when I made a post for the [2022 Texas Newspaper Endorsements.](https://old.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/ybh0qr/texas_newspaper_endorsements_for_the_2022_midterm/) And yes, just like in 2022 I tried to look for small town Texas newspaper endorsements and could not find any. These are just the endorsements for statewide races that will be on everyone’s ballot in Texas. Each of these newspapers has many, MANY endorsements for down-ballot races which are just as important. You can view their other endorsements below. [Austin American Statesman endorsements](https://www.statesman.com/story/opinion/editorials/2024/10/20/austin-american-statesman-editorial-board-endorsements-austin-texas-election-2024/75679130007/?itm_campaign=confirmation&itm_content=news&itm_medium=onsite&itm_source=onsite) [Austin Chronicle endorsements](https://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2024-10-18/endorsements-for-the-november-2024-general-election/) [Dallas Morning News endorsements](https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/we-recommend/) [Fort Worth Star-Telegram endorsements](https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/election-recommendations/) [Houston Chronicle endorsements](https://www.houstonchronicle.com/projects/2024/texas-election-endorsements/) [San Antonio Express-News endorsements](https://www.expressnews.com/projects/2024/san-antonio-general-election-endorsements-2024/) I don’t agree with all of their endorsements and you don’t have to either. But READING these endorsements is a great first step at researching the candidates. Here are some other things to look at to help determine who deserves your vote. [Full Presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdSDngmDLmY) [Full Texas Senate debate between Colin Allred and Ted Cruz](https://www.youtube.com/live/Lqauw4t0u2s?si=rqjS3DnNIb_N2ogO&t=16173) [League of Women Voters of Texas](https://lwvtexas.org/#gsc.tab=0) Voting info: **Early voting is from Oct 21st-Nov 1st. VOTE EARLY.** The lines are MUCH shorter (potentially even non-existent if you go during the middle of the week) and if you wait until election day (**Nov 5th**) you might forget or something could come up that causes you to miss your chance to vote. You are NOT allowed to use your phone while voting. You CAN use a written down or printed-out voting “cheat sheet” to help you remember who/what to vote for. [Source](https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/laws/advisory2024-06.shtml) Voting by mail is very restricted in Texas. [Find out if you’re eligible to vote by mail and how to vote by mail here.](https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml) The last day to apply for a ballot by mail (received, NOT postmarked) is Oct 25th. Voting tools: [Vote411.org](https://www.vote411.org/ballot) - See what races will be on your ballot [Iwillvote.com](https://iwillvote.com/locate/?state=TX) - Find your nearest polling location [VoteTexas.gov](https://www.votetexas.gov/voting/need-id.html) - List of acceptable forms of photo ID you **MUST** present at the polls when voting in person [Rideshare2vote.com](https://rideshare2voteaware.org/awarevote-rides/) - Request a FREE ride to and from a polling location In before the MAGA supporters show up crying that newspapers are full of left-wing socialists. r/texas full of left-wingers, newspapers full of left-wingers, Texas full of left-wingers but somehow conservatives still represent what the majority of people really want. Seriously, if there's one thing that can bring us all together in these divided times it's that Ted Cruz is a piece of shit. gee, the Statesman is noping out of almost everything, but even they can't stand Ted Cruz. For Worth Star Telegram as well. So NO endorsement from some? Sheesh. Good lord, no endorsement on the Presidential ticket is absolute cowardice. I find it odd that Ted Cruz refused to respond to the nonpartisan League of Women Voters. The endorsement of Allred is pretty interesting, for exactly the reasons you mentioned. They didn't just, not endorse anyone; like they did with every other office. They actively endorsed the Democrat and effectively told Cruz to go fuck himself. lol DMN, you cowards. I love that day by day Texas is more willing to admit that Ted Cruz is an absolute PoS. Victim crybabies even when they are outnumbered and still cram their medieval bullshit down everyone else's throats. Honestly it's impressive that Allred got the endorsement for a paper that otherwise doesn't endorse anyone. I wish the state's voting population felt the same way. Guess we'll see in a couple of weeks. Or the Craven Canadian Real Texan here. Vote all Dems until the MAGA lunatics are off the ballot. Real folks from Texas live in those "liberal cities." And liberals live in the smaller communities as well. "Don't trust them. They're such globalist, child eating, liberals that they won't even give me a voice.

2024-10-20 17:19:21

I want to emigrate to Russia if Harris wins the 2024 election.

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Title: I want to emigrate to Russia if Harris wins the 2024 election. Body: Top Comments: Typically all the weird American conservatives flood the Swiss subreddits around election time with their plans to move to the land of mountains and machine guns. In their minds we are some sort of libertarian utopia. They are always surprised to learn that they cannot just decide to move to a place without things like visas, residence permits, a work contract and so on. At least he speaks the language But they’re American! Surely that fact alone should mean nations are tripping over themselves to welcome them! 👀 Or so he states… I’ve had conversations with Americans that claimed to be fluent in German. They generally didn’t get much further than danke or bitte. Emigrating to a country with a language you already speak because it is more affordable seems reasonable. But leaving because you don't like a president(not a tyrant) to another country with a tyrant as president is beyond stupid. And don’t you dare try to apply words like “foreigner” and “immigrant” to them when they move abroad! They really don’t know what fluent means. My German is OK. It’s enough to order food, ask for directions and have simple conversations, but I’m also aware that my grammar is probably terrible, I frequently forget the words for things, and I never get the gendered nouns right. I’m working on it, but I can at least make myself understood. I would NEVER refer to myself as “fluent in German”, and I’d wager that my German, limited as it is, is considerably better than most of those people. Edit: the responses to this are brilliant. I’m reminded of a sketch I watched which was titled “when your German friend first gets good at English but translates too literally” or something. It had a guy walking into a room full of people and saying “Hello together! We are having a good time, or?” I'M A EXXXXPATTTT!! >Would it have been a good idea for them to learn Russian before they went? Yes, yes it would. Did they do that? No, they did not. “We were naive on that,” said Anneesa Feenstra, matriarch and former beet farmer. “I needed to use the washroom, and on the doors said male and female, but I didn’t know which was which!” >“In America, that wouldn’t be a problem, it’s free-for-all in the bathrooms, but now in our world it matters!” her husband added. This part of the article is pure gold! An entire family did this same thing earlier this year. It didn't go well for them. 🤣 https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/02/21/canadian-family-moved-to-russia-to-escape-wokeness/ Ah yes, the special word for white immigrants. Sometimes you think you’ve seen it all. And then an American comes around and says: hold my beer So your german is not the yellow from the egg? The irony of this people… i hate immigrants so i become an immigrant I was pleasantly surprised that OP actually knew Russian. In their minds everything is probably cheaper in Switzerland too, because "europoor." They'd get a very rude awakening if they ever bothered to get a passport and travel there. Learning the nuances of German phrases is no pony farm. As a Russian, I'm laughing my ass off. Oh boy, this would've been fun if those guys actually tried to move to Russia and see what it's like to live there. Frankly, some do. It always ends up hilarious Oh my god that reads like the onion > says that cost of living in US is unbearable > plans to live in Sochi Huh!?

2024-10-21 23:06:59

N.B. votes 2024: Higgs loses own riding as PCs take devastating election blow | Globalnews.ca

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Title: N.B. votes 2024: Higgs loses own riding as PCs take devastating election blow | Globalnews.ca Body: Top Comments: Finally some decent political news in Canada. As a BC resident, I really needed a win I love that a hateful bigot lost!!!!! 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ As an Ontarian, I’m hoping we can get rid of Daddy’s favorite sticker salesman in the next election. Proud NBer here. This absolute jackass bragged about running massive budget surpluses fueled by a huge influx of new residents from Ontario/Quebec, while our healthcare and basic support services have been absolutely gutted, and we face the worst nurse burnout in the entire country and our rent/housing costs began to sore. Then, when people realized all this shit was happening despite record surpluses (and our industrial oligarch overlord Irving being allowed to operate rent free in the province), he tried to pivot into wedge culture war issues like PaReNtAl RiGhTs and gave all the oxygen in the room to bozos like Faytene Grassechi. HAPPY TO REPORT East Coasters aren't that fucking stupid (at least not yet). Goodbye grampy Higgs, I hope the nurses in your long term care home forget to respond to your call button He definitely wants to call a snap election before the federal election because as long as Trudeau is still PM Ford is basically guaranteed to win. Our populace is so fucking braindead. As a Manitoban, I would like to be the first to welcome New Brunswick to the Cool Provinces Club So glad the racist fuck is gone. [deleted] May the door swing wide, that it might not hit him on the way out. May this be the last we hear from him until fate tallies up the ledger and we read his obituary announcement sometime between next week and 2050. May similar crushing personal rejections be visited on every last one of his fellow Conservative leaders across this country in years to come. Always good time when hateful bigots go away Good riddance to that conservative shitstain. As "hot" as Conservative politics might be right now polling-wise, they're floundering badly in key battlegrounds across the country. Even a SaskParty victory is not a given at this juncture. As a queer guy and a trans ally, I also love when bigots lose! 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ The proud maritime PC tradition (that PC parties are socially liberal and fiscally conservative) is maintained. Get lost Higgs, and take your divisive rhetoric and policies with you. May the NBPC take a hard look in the mirror and return to being a proper maritime PC party instead of larping as republicans. Here's to NS following suit but with the NDP instead of the liberals taking power! Fantastic. Canada is waking up. The fuck we are. We are just ditching the incumbents. No matter what stripe they are. [deleted] Did Faytene make it in? I’m really hoping she doesn’t gain any sort of power in politics. That would be legitimately terrifying. Edit: Whoohoo!!! Well done NB:).

2024-10-22 00:26:53

One day into early voting and they are already claiming the 2024 election is rigged.

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Title: One day into early voting and they are already claiming the 2024 election is rigged. Body: Misinformation campaign has begun. Trump has stated multiple times he won’t accept the results if he loses, MTG started complaining about voting machines three days ago and twitter is full of people now claiming that the voting machines are flipping their votes from Trump to Kamala in Texas. Infowars and other websites like it are pushing this same misinformation, sadly a lot of conservatives believe these reports are real and no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise. Top Comments: What the crap is that piece of paper even supposed to show? It has several names on it and it's from 2019. I've done the poll worker job before. Everyone is supposed to check their ballots before they turn them in to make sure that their votes are registered correctly. Our training informed us that a shockingly low amount of people during controlled testing checked their ballots and noticed if there was a discrepancy. I don’t know about your machines but here in Georgia they added a step at the end where it will NOT let you submit your vote until you preview it to make sure you voted the way you meant to. Then it prints the ballot and you can check it again before it goes to a tally box. How in the world would flipping votes occur Yes, TARRANT COUNTY is part of the grand conspiracy to elect Kamala. Dude... say Bexar or Harris or something... at least TRY to make your fake news sound plausible. It's always the same pattern. Big swagger and claims about voter fraud on social media, press interviews and youtube videos. Get that 15min of fame. Then the feds and home land security roll up to investigate. Where lying to them will carry with it consequences like up to 5 years in jail and/or $250k level fine. Oh surprise....... suddenly the story is different. Hum.. how strange. It's the exact same here. Doesn’t take much to convince people of something they already want to believe, the account that posted this has been retweeted by Paxton before so I assume that gives them credibility in MAGAs eyes It's just propaganda being spit out by people panicking about record levels of early voting. At the location I went to yesterday, one of the poll workers came out and apologized to us for the wait because their machines were slow, and they weren't used to dealing with over 700 people showing up on the first day when they usually see less than 200 during early voting. Guess I'm being downvoted by people that also don't want people to get out and vote lol Yup, can confirm. I early voted yesterday. Was warned to double check my choices before printing, had to double check prior to printing, got to triple check printed ballot prior to submission. This is foreign interference attempting to sow domestic discord by undermining our elections. If you listen to Trump and crew at all, Democrats are dumb and so inept they are ruining the country.........but also somehow are able to change votes in real time on individual ballots. The logical leaps that need to be made. Okay so Trumpers should vote for Harris and that way the machine will flip it the other way right? Not the mention, the photo used clearly isn’t Tarrant County because, though it is conveniently cut off, the county’s name ends with an e. The people at the top know it’s a lie, the followers just believe the conspiracy runs so deep that nobody can be trusted and will turn on anyone who shows doubt. They turned on Ted Cruz during January 6th because a piece of paper they found on his desk, they’ll even turn on their family, the only person they truly believe is Trump who is constantly lying to them And the date is 2019 Sounds like people aren’t using the machines correctly.  Also, you’re supposed to check your ballot before turning it in anyway. The poll workers will even tell you this.  Same thing with lazy immigrants living on welfare but also taking all of our jobs I literally just voted an hour ago. They had a man going through the line yelling "CHECK YOUR VOTES ON THE BALLOT BEFORE YOU SUBMIT IT". And to print it out, you have to confirm everything is right on the screen. If you got through that and still managed to vote for the wrong candidate, then I don't know what to tell you. Yup, you have to check and confirm before it even prints it in the ballot. Then you’re encouraged to check it before feeding it into the machine. And I also wait for the final machine to confirm that it accepted my ballot before I walk away. There is usually an election worker right by that machine too, so if there is any discrepancy, it isn’t hard to flag someone down to report it. These people are bonkers. This is probably husbands checking their wives ballots and the wives having to make something up when they voted D I like your comment… and I so like seeing how many people have gotten out to vote…. The GOP in general is worried… they know they are on the losing side and supporting a mad man and his crazed supporters that have taken over their party…. And all in the name of their job… they kiss the ring and worship the false idol.. [deleted]

2024-10-22 13:08:51

What are you the most worried about happening if Donald Trump wins the 2024 Election?

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Title: What are you the most worried about happening if Donald Trump wins the 2024 Election? Body: There a lot of terrible things that will go down if Trump wins the upcoming election like Banning abortion nationwide, Pardoning all the January 6th Rioters, appoint two new conservative justices to replace Clarance Thomas and Samual Alito and Repealing the constitution. Which action are you the most worried about happening? Top Comments: His followers will become the equivalent of Hitler's Brown Shirts or Mao's Red Guards. Donald Trump would be freshly armed with a Supreme Court ruling that gives the President near total immunity from prosecution. Yes, the historic precedents are there.  Fascism will be ratified as a viable electoral / campaign strategy forever-more. Even if the best-case scenario happens during the administration that will have happened on election day. This and the JDV will be President before the first term is up. JDV is a puppet and will absolutely let Project 2025 happen. Nazism 2.0, except this time with the strongest military in history and with nukes. There will be no one to stop them this time. If you ever get a chance to watch a documentary on Hitler, please do. The similarities are frightening. I'm mostly worried about Project 2025 and Trump putting in enough people who coukd make the Seven Mountain Mandate a thing - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate All of it. Every last thing. I’m a Canadian. Please USA. I don’t even know how this can be close. Vance doesn't plan on being VP past the 48-hour mark on Inauguration Day. Trust. It's the reason he still has no idea of what the actual job of VP is. It's gotta be a shutout. The Electoral Count must be so damn clear that there's no actual feasible question as to its validity. Even then, the MAGAts are going to cry foul. Ugh. Anyone who could have voted and didn’t is at fault you mean. I voted. I went door to door. I donated my time and money. The fuck else was I supposed to do? "Don't worry about whether I'm informed; I am very informed." That's the summary of the comment. There's very much reason to worry about a second Trump presidency. I'm 55, have a military family, and have advanced degrees in the social sciences. Don't worry, I have read and watched a lot of history in my lifetime.  The historic precedents are there *from five years ago* "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by" That he will try to abolish the 2 term limit and never leave. Don't underestimate the damage even an out of shape person could cause with an AR-15 and a brain fried by divisive rhetoric and misinformation. That Vance will invoke the 25th Amendment to replace tRump. There won't be any more elections. And we deserve it for letting it happen. The end of the Constitution I'll have to move away from my family when Trump starts rewarding MAGA for tips about disloyalty. My Dad would turn me in n a second for his Orange Lord.

2024-10-22 23:04:22

'This election is different': Bill Gates leaps into 2024 race with massive donation

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Title: 'This election is different': Bill Gates leaps into 2024 race with massive donation Body: Top Comments: Oooh, the antivax Trumpets are going to lose their minds over this. MSFT vs TSLA Begun, the megacap wars have I don't want to hear any Republicans complain that Bill Gates is part of an evil conspiracy, when their billionaire guy has more money and is interfering in the election in unprecedented ways. Just massive, massive hypocrisy As much as this seems a generous amount, one has to ask why the H*** did Mr. Gates wait until now - two weeks before the election - to offer support? Why wasn't he pouring in money months ago? Probably because he, like the rest of us, is in shocked disbelief that Trump is still a viable candidate and in contention at this late stage. Weird they aren't suspicious of the man putting actual chips in people TSLA is a bug compared to MSFT. Indeed. Evil Bill just got ultra super evil now.  Cool, cancels out $50m of Elon Musk's shitmoney, much of which has been wasted by the looks of things. and that is paying people to register/vote whatever it was (I'm not american, didn't understand exactly what he said he's paying for with those sweepstakes). Like they have an actual immigrant trying to interfere with the elections and they don't bat an eye because he's on their side. If only Leon were just a bug. At this point, he's a feature. The conservative subreddits are already complaining. Its insane Goooood goood. This pleases us Jewish space laser wielding alien lizard people big little brain hacker election riggers (aka leftists). They always complain. I feel like the last few weeks are most critical and he felt his donation was most impactful now. Or maybe he finally got to the fundraising emails that Outlook's spam filters caught. Bill vs Elon ohmygosh. If anything MSFT's products work at least somewhat more reliably. I thought we already made this mistake in 2016 Right On, Gates! Own the vote. VOTE! Defeat these motherfuckers. They're always massive hypocrites.

2024-10-23 01:22:43

I Don't Trust the Supreme Court With the 2024 Election

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Title: I Don't Trust the Supreme Court With the 2024 Election Body: Top Comments: I used to love reading SCOTUS decisions. The thinking and the rationale behind them could be both educating and enlightening. Now, they make me sick. I know it sounds overdramatic but it really does feel like "fall of the empire" kind of stuff. When the highest point of the system that protects against corruption is corrupted, the credibility of the court will never return. It will always *always* be subject to a political bias that can't be washed out. It takes a lot of time to build what America was trying to be. And just a few short years, a few evil minds, and *very* stupid, willing participants to tear it all down. I wouldn't trust 6 out of 9 of the current SCOTUS Justices to correctly spell "election" without help Yep. When Thurgood Marshall had an opinion everyone shut the hell up. You were about to learn something. FFS. Can we all not admit at this point that the court has been corrupted? Between Thomas, his wife, his payoffs, Gorsuch and his million dollar home in Colorado? His wife? Alito? His wife? Opus Dei? Leonard Leo? And pretty much every decision they’ve made in the last 4 years? Trusting the Supreme Court is not a thing anymore. Of course they’ll decide for Trump. That’s the plan. It has been all along. I don’t trust the Supreme Court. The GOP Justices are bought and paid for. Right, and to think we are living through it. It's mind-boggling and depressing as hell. I mean, my children have fewer rights than I did growing up. Abortion access was a right. The GOP took that away. I've been debating what to do if Trump does win or steals power. Fight it or get the fuck out. I'm at get the fuck out, with my wife, and if they want, my five grown children. Start over somewhere else. After 50 years of living in the US, 35 years of working my butt off cause I was told if I did that I'd have a great life, I'm fucking pissed as hell. At my parents for always voting republican. At society for hiding the truth about our country. At people here who just don't seem to care. I've had my fill of this crap. Alright, Mr. Thomas. Lets try a simple word. President. Spell "PRESIDENT" K-I-N- Alright, I think we've got a problem here. You want to see a revolution? That's how you'll get one. They'll fall in line because they know the repercussions of disenfranchising millions of Americans. Even myself, I'm a rather tame individual but if they try to fuck us over then I'd be taking to the streets. The civil unrest would be unfathomable. I hear you. It's so depressing. I used to believe in people. I thought everyone was inherently good and ignorance was the problem. That we could just educate ourselves to a better world. Covid quickly disabused me of that. What's frustrating is that without anyone staying to fight, America doesn't stand a chance. When evil stays and good flees, what hope is left? On the other hand, I don't blame you one iota. I'd leave too. A nation of utter fucking imbeciles. A literal rapist on the supreme court. Hundreds of years of the stupidest, ignorant race politics and conspiracies. Literally resurfaced nazism. Anti-intellectuallism and book burnings. Religious zealots funded by slaver billionaires. Literal goons and mob bosses at the helm. It feels like fighting the tide with a paper cup. It makes me think that humanity just can't have good things. I'm Canadian but I'm very nervous for your election in two weeks. I feel like it's a pivotal point in human history. Same. Alito quoting pre-enlightenment political theory was chilling. It would seem the federalist society and those pulling the strings want exactly this. To reset the clock, abandon law, incite chaos while the wealthiest amount use rob us blind both civilly and financially. Help us all if a terrorist attack occurs up until inauguration day and they blame it on either side of the isle or both. Wasn't Scalia preparing all these current justices with his opinions? You're so right, and it's a very good point. I feel like the 2000's and handing the country to Bush was a swinging moment in global history where the future of the world went from an inevitable advancement to an inevitable decline. Socially, politically, economically, culturally. We went from a people who responded to the Ozone crisis by listening to experts...to responding to the climate crisis by screaming at experts. The SC has made some atrocious decisions and interfered terribly in the past. I guess it just feels so extreme now given how brazen it is. They literally took away rights from women based on exactly the kind of religious bile that the founding fathers warned was America's enemy from the beginning. It feels particularly profane since it's so antithetical to what America was meant to be. It feels now more perverse than ever. Remember: Gifting High-end Motor homes = free speech. > When the highest point of the system that protects against corruption is corrupted, the credibility of the court will never return. It will always always be subject to a bias that can't be washed out. You say that as if SCOTUS making choices based blatantly on politics/bias over facts of law is just a recent thing. That has been going on my whole life and well before my life as well. I agree that it "feels worse" right now with the obvious bad faith rulings we have had since 2016. But the USA SCOTUS has mired in the muck many times before now. I wouldn’t trust SCOTUS to pick up my mail while I was on vacation. Do not assume these people are dumb. They are all very smart. The problem is they are evil and them being smart makes them dangerous. If you hop over to r_Louisiana sub there is a photo of the Louisiana Supreme Court with Louisiana spelled wrong (“Louisana”) in massive letters projected on curtains behind the Justices. > Gifting High-end Motor homes "AcTuALlY, It's a MotOR CoacH" -Clarence Thomas

2024-10-23 10:43:21

Will Women Decide the 2024 Election?

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Title: Will Women Decide the 2024 Election? Body: Top Comments: Women had better and get their men in the voting line too you can not have a United States with fewer reproductive rights than some third world countries When will men realize if P2025 takes away birth control, they’ll have to pay for many more babies or not get laid??? After 7 children my grandfather lived in a different bedroom! That was reality in the 40s and 50s and a lot of the 60s and 70s. Then we couldn’t prove whose baby it was though and a lot of women just didn’t receive child support. Bunch of idiots. You think these guys will be ok if their porn gets taken away? Because P2025 will also ban porn. After the Dobbs decision was handed down in 2022, anti-abortion referendums in Kansas, California, Vermont, Michigan, Kentucky, and Montana were soundly defeated by huge female voter turnout. No reason to think that their rage over having their reproductive rights ripped away has diminished during the past 2-1/2 years. They will 100% be determining the outcome of this election. If the young female voters actually turn out to vote, maybe. The problem seems to be getting them to vote, even with their rights on the line, and I say this as a millennial. Clearly! Men have messed this country up long enough. It will also completely destroy the gaming industry. Games like *Baldur’s Gate 3* or *World of Warcraft* would probably just be taken offline. Not to mention that a lot of developers, programmers, ect. are LGBT. Not even sure what’s left then. Aren’t violent videogames also on the P2025 shitlist? I told my husband if Trump wins, we aren’t having any kids (I can’t imagine having complications and being turned away because of the barbaric laws) . He came to vote with me day 1. If they show up in large numbers.  What? Lol don't worry, they're projecting. Every accusation is a confession I’m preparing for the worst, while hoping for the best. We’ve allowed misogyny and misogyny based beliefs to run amuck in this country masking them as other peoples freedoms for far too long. Our constitution supports this belief of mine. Our freedoms stop at the point it hurts others, and misogyny hurts others. It should be rooted out and burned to the ground and every institution that supports its. We are humans, we are capable We’re On the cusp of Boomers/Gen X, and I already voted early and my wife’s absentee ballot is still sitting on her counter!! I did all the work to request it as well as will take it to the mailbox. But she’s dragging her feet on it. But she KNOWS we can’t have Trump in office! So fill out the form and let’s get this done more for her rights than mine! I don’t understand why this wouldn’t be the biggest 10 minute priority in her life right now! Women are deciding the election. Because zero women, and ALL girls that have been raped by their daddy, uncle or some rando on the street abhor being Forced-birth raped by the government. This sort of dehumanization is intolerable and worth of any and all resistance and subsequent blowback. The wrath of women, 50.5, percent of the population scorned is real. ♀️✊🏿✊🏽✊🏻 Right, I forget about the Planned Parenthood flight division—quick ladies, scramble! We’re gonna GO SAVE THE WOMEN OF GAZA!!! The fuck you expect Planned Parenthood to do, bud? 😂 Guns would get stripped from anyone that’s not the most loyal boot licker. They’re planning an authoritarian styled takeover after all. I think a lot of women will be voting in the US elections this year. Many are pissed about the loss of abortion access. Dobbs didn't happen until 2022, Cletus. Far more women are voting in this election than in 2020. Ignore them at your own peril. Trump lost 2024 the second the Dobbs decision was handed down. I expect us to;. but guys, you need to stand with your women ... your wives, your SOs, your sisters, your sisters in law, your daughters. Medical care isn't a female/male issue ... our very lives depend on it. Vote Blue top down, nationally, state, county, municipal, and judiciary. I’m none of those and I’m voting for kamala.

2024-10-23 14:01:48

I Don’t Trust the Supreme Court With the 2024 Election

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Title: I Don’t Trust the Supreme Court With the 2024 Election Body: Top Comments: Thats why dems have to get out and vote in such huge numbers, that there isn't any wiggle room for them to even make a challenge. Wiggle room or not, they will challenge everything and make as many problems as they can. Only 2024? You guys trusted SCOTUS after Bush v Gore? They literally said "This one time, we get to ignore the will of the people to decide the president" for the 2000 election. Of course. But those challenges will be much less successful if she wins by a massive margin. We MUST VOTE in historic numbers. >You guys trusted SCOTUS after Bush v Gore? That was the inflection point where we broke off from the better timeline If Trump gets into office the Supreme Court will likely move almost entirely to the far right. This is the same Supreme Court that took away women's reproductive rights. Are you willing to risk it going further to the right? I suggest you read up on Weimar Germany and what happened after Hitler took power. Damn that is depressing but true. Imagine 8 years of Al Gore pushing the green initiative hard. Agreed! My county has a Republican following for Kamala because Trump lost them. So January 6th and Dobbs meant nothing? Because in order to believe that Harris at best will only match Biden in 2020, you also have to believe January 6th and Dobbs had no electoral impact. He gave a talk on climate science and DSCOVR at work a week or two ago, and holy shit I really wish that guy could have been president No one should trust Leonard Leo's judges, especially after the multiple times this year that they've gone out of their way to help trump. trump isn't even campaigning\* because he knows he has an ace in the hole. It's absurd that judges are supposed to be impartial while all Republican-nominated federal judges come from Leonard Leo's bullpen. \*Whining is not campaigning. Politicians campaign to grow their support; trump isn't even trying in that regard. Especially considering the alternative. People seem to forget that Bush Jr was easily the worst modern POTUS, until Trump came along. They matter a lot; they're just offset somewhat by people that don't understand what inflation is, and young men scared by the political power of young women. FFS. Can we all not admit at this point that the court has been corrupted? Between Thomas, his wife, his payoffs, Gorsuch and his million dollar home in Colorado? His wife? Alito? His wife? Opus Dei? Leonard Leo? And pretty much every decision they’ve made in the last 4 years? Trusting the Supreme Court is not a thing anymore. Of course they’ll decide for Trump. That’s the plan. It has been all along. I don’t trust the Supreme Court. The GOP Justices are bought and paid for. I don’t trust this Supreme Court with a parking ticket. I do not trust the current SCOTUS - period. 3-members seated by a treasonous convicted felon should all be impeached. But there will not be a landslide. We can count ourselves lucky if Harris gets a similar result to Biden in 2020; and we‘d have cause for huge celebrations if the Dems manage to keep the Senate. Though that’s highly unlikely. What there won’t be is some sort of massive blue wave. I hope I‘m wrong. I really think it’s possible I have never seen so many people interested in politics for the right reasons and most of them are fed up with Trump. Kamala’s campaign is also huge and non stop. Yep, this really is the most surefire way to avoid anything ridiculous. Some things that might help ease minds, at least a little bit: - Trump is not the current President, and the executive branch will not be manipulated by him. Kamala Harris will certify the election. That alone is a massive difference between 4 years ago in terms of interference. - Many legal efforts will happen at the state level, and most of the swing states have Democratic Governors, AGs, Secretaries of State, and faithless elector laws. - In GA, where there aren't Dem top officials, there's at least Brad Raffensperger and Kemp who aren't going to bend the knee to Trump. The GA courts have also stayed the ridiculous board rules. - A contingent election is extremely unlikely. - The same Supreme Court shut down the ridiculous Trump-backed Texas lawsuit in 2020, and his own hand-picked lower court justices laughed his frivolous lawsuits out of court. But.. I'm still wary and we're bound to see something. The most worrying scenario IMO is still a Bush v Gore repeat scenario, where one deciding state is shockingly close and a dispute over a recount or valid ballots works its way up the courts. Like you said - as long as there's a sound victory, hopefully in multiple states, that'll make it much much harder for these efforts to work.

2024-10-23 16:41:17

Michelle Obama votes by mail in Election 2024

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Title: Michelle Obama votes by mail in Election 2024 Body: Top Comments: She looks 50 and 25 at the same time. Apparently Michelle Obama has gotten younger since leaving the White House Given that she's 60 years old, those are both pretty big compliments. She absorbed the years from Barack  If I ran across this lady on the street, there’s no way I would think she’s 60 years old. Tim Walz is 60 years old, and he looks like he’s ready for his early bird dinner.  Well it's working because she looks great!! God I miss the Obamas, what a sh*tshow it has become since they left She looks completely unrecognizable to me with that hairstyle. I had to check her instagram to believe this was her. I thought this was her daughter for a second Being a high school teacher is going to age you like a pair of Tattooinian suns [deleted] my whole household sent our votes in days ago. in WA mail in is the standard. you automatically get sent a ballot. it's fantastic. you get a pamphlet on the issues a week or so before the ballot. you have time to read about them and look up the people you are voting for. voting doesn't have to be hard. I was gonna say *thats* Michelle Obama *now*??? She must be draining poor Barack’s life force somehow because she hasn’t changed. Obligatory, black don’t crack comment. I love Obama but the presidency definitely cracked his black, it's a damn rough job. God, yes. Merely pushing for healthier foods was tyrannical government to them. Such fucking clowns I wonder who she voted for. Barack honestly looks good. The presidency aged him really fast but since 2016 he has barely changed Meanwhile Stephen Miller has looked like a 50 year old serial killer since he was 30. It’s the Dark Side of the Force. It rots you from the inside.

2024-10-24 20:52:08