/hdg/ Hentai Diffusion General #548

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>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/wiki
Optimizations *NEW*:
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
-/pull/15837
-/pull/15824

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/C<wbr>omfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/Co<wbr>mfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templa<wbr>tes

>LOCAL FORGEUI *OLD*
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stabl<wbr>e-diffusion-webui-forge

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/257749/
https://civitai.com/models/288584/
https://rentry.org/anypony-science (Animagine refiner for Pony)
https://rentry.org/5exa3 (HLL+EasyFluff) *OLD*
https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomef<wbr>uckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/L<wbr>oRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrain<wbr>er
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pag<wbr>es/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_<wbr>tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanst<wbr>er/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon
Wildcards: https://rentry.org/NAIwildcards
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
NAI API/prompting in auto1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-<wbr>nai-api
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_s<wbr>tuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_prev<wbr>iews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0<wbr>rx-a6jf

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png<wbr> | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif<wbr>

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg

>mother of melted eyes in op
come on man did you try

>>8024767
It's NA- oh wait it's ponyslop
lol, lmao even

newfag here. anyone know where I can find the nyantcha/thiccwithaq model?

>>8024767
No time to zoom in. Anons were already crying about not having a new thread.

>>8024767
>aijeets doing the artcel argument
lol, the absolute state of stable diffusion in 2024

>>8024769
have you tried the OP? You know, the part that says loras

>>8024767
Trash gens in OP are a sad tradition at this point.

>>8024772
what the fuck is a loras???
just give me the model already

>>8024778
Beg a little more and I'll consider it.

need to make kagami bake at some point...

>>8024768
Holy fuck what a joke 10/10 jejejejejeej

>>8024789
it's Shiro from ngnl
https://files.catbox.moe/88ef4q.png<wbr>

>>8024793
ponysloppers can never compete

>>8024795
>shit eyes
>deformed fingers
yeah lol

>>8024774
Pretty decent asanagi style, which lora is it? Mind posting a catbox?

>>8024795
>>8024796
Why so late today Groidspammer-kun? Long, exhausting day at your retail job?

>>8024795
I see puss, I cum. Simple as. No need for competition

>groid link still in the OP
Kill yourself.

Can someone explain to me the benefits of these optimizations mentioned in the OP?

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/wiki
Optimizations *NEW*:
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st<wbr>able-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
-/pull/15837
-/pull/15824

I have been away from the AI scene for a while and am still using forge, which is see is marked as outdated now.

You have to utter the magic b word or he won't show up

>>8024798
Merged a lyco into ebara 2.1.

Lyco is a extract I made from the 4th model (https://civitai.com/models/282341)<wbr>, though the author did make an extract as well.

I merged since it the lyco itself didn't work on Forge, but now on A1111 seems to give me better results still.

https://files.catbox.moe/z79vqk.png<wbr>

>>8024801
Stop trying to make groid happen, anon. It's not going to happen.

Don't forget that NTR/QoSfags spend their entire life dragging others into their fetish the same way homosexual 3DPD groomer pedophiles drag kids into their faggot shit

>>8024817
If you keep obsessing over them, they will go away.

what the fuck is a loras???<br>just give me the model already

>>8024829
Ochako only sleeps with black men.

>>8024829
Can you make bakugo black and give him an afro?

Yeeeep, that's a meltie! Meds and BBC now!

> LORA works well on Autist
> LORA doesn't work well on another mix I like
Pain

>>8024829
can you generate her with black men she service them

Why does Forge produce better quality when using Hyper SDXL and Euler A SGM Uniform than ComfyUI does?

Can someone explain to me the benefits of these optimizations mentioned in the OP?

>>8024854
fuuuuck that's hot she loves bbc

>>8024817
Biggest truthnuke in the history of /h/

>>8024867
no wonder she only sleeps with black guys after this lol

>>8024867
perfectly, squarely average. why is she confused...

>>8024868
>placing nsfw at the first spot
kek, tard

>>8024874
>perfectly, squarely average.
oh nonono whitebros not like this...

>>8024868
Shame Arti doesn't know shiro well
https://files.catbox.moe/38x80p.png<wbr>
https://files.catbox.moe/reqcda.png<wbr>
>>8024878
It's nai to arti

>>8024881
how is arti with characters in general? is there a danbooru threshold or its random just like with animagine/horse?

>>8024871
fuck the last one is really hot

>>8024871
how come the png has metadata/the prompt while the jpgs don't?
should be NAI right? >>8024881

or that one of these NAI wannabe models on civitai?

>>8024886
all of them have the same prompt, and it's nai

>asura \(asurauser\)
Why does this simple trick work so well?

>>8024883
i think they were manually curated so even some low appearance rate chars might work ok

>>8024883
It's somewhat weird i'd say. If the character has less than 150 hits here https://huggingface.co/Eugeoter/art<wbr>iwaifu-diffusion-1.0/raw/main/refer<wbr>ences/character.csv then it's almost impossible to prompt with just the name, you'd have to go for features.

>>8024877
OH god damn holy fuck, what model did you use for this?

>>8024728
>Anti-AI artist LORA
based.
hoo boy dude's gonna freak

>>8024908
>whoa, the thumbnail looks so nice, must be some cool shit thrown into the prompt
>open it
AAHHH MY EYESSS

>>8024911
heheh, BOW BEFORE THE GOD OF FRIES

>>8024902
autismmix with character lora and "style" lora for more 2.5dish look

I hate so fucking much that now I know how to inpaint good but having a yeeyee ass slow AyyMD gpu isn't playing well with me at all

>>8024917
jokes aside, your gen is still nice. just needs some touches here and there

I want to make AI art using styles of annoying anti-AI artists. Who has been the most annoying voice in the Anti-AI movement?

>>8024924
maybe be youd get some betta eyes on yo bitches faster if you went with Nvidia, don't hate them cause they're more expensive nigaaa....

>>8024922
>made with autismmix
So there is hope...I've been wanting to make Ahri stuff too
>1536x2560
Holy shit you must have a monster PC

>>8024930
Yay! Hi there. May I use your drawings as a base for my hentai images?

>>8024934
I can literally do this resolution on a 1060, you ok?

>>8024927
Rizdraws, but theres probably like 20 LORAs of that guy sticking it to him already probs

>>8024806
Can you please upload the merge somewhere? I'm a VRAMlet and my computer would probably explode if I tried to merge the full lyco myself.

>>8024942
Weird, I couldn't get the lora to do anything unless I brought the strength above 1.5. Feels like it was missing an activation tag, but bengugu didn't do anything.

>>8024943
Sure, any page that lets me upload 6.6GB? I don't have space in Drive/Mega, and litter is up to 2GB :(

>>8024943
Aren't merges basically free? It's just a simple math operation.

Do I have to resize the images to train lora in civitai? Is this done automatically or is it not necessary?

>>8024948
upload it as a shitmix to civit

>>8024948
Maybe you could use gofile or huggingface.
>>8024949
I thought that too but the last time I tried to merge a large-ish LoRA it took forever on my computer. But maybe I'm doing something wrong.

>>8024950
dont listen to the other retard, no, no need for resizing.

>>8024931
I don't hate 'em cuz they're expensive, I cannot deny they have the best consumer tier gpus available, it's just that I'm poor lol

>>8024949
It takes a good while I think, at least merging the lyco with Lycoris tools on a RTX 4090.

>>8024952
>>8024959
Uploading on p i x e l drain , remembered it exists

>>8024950
civitai crops your images so the longest side is 1024, so you'll lose details in every image that is 1:1
maybe that's why every lora trained in that site is dogshit

>>8024963
You can do it yourself through https://www.birme.net/ takes 5 mins.

My images are all vertical, won't they be cropped?

>>8024967
i mean that if you use any image with an aspect ratio different than 1:1 then the civitai trainer will automatically resize it until the longest side is 1024, and you'll end up training with a bunch of images below sdxl resolution

>>8024945
It should work at 1.0 and there isn't any kind of activation tag. You can check my catbox here for the settings I use. I have no idea what model you are using but I personally use Autism mix.

>>8024982
That was it, thanks. I guess it's trained directly on autism so it does nothing on ebara.

>>8024979
Damn, how many joints does that guy have in his legs?

Quit being a baby and turn your cfg up to 12.

>>8025001
not enough, judging by his expression

>>8025001
>>8025006
at least few extra, now that she's had him

>>8024979

>>8024098
no but wow it does have that style

>>8025011
is that a chin and a mouth on that one guy's groin

>Oppai Cunny artist
>Oppai Cunny in previews

https://civitai.com/models/466829/h<wbr>suliherng-hlherng-or-artist-style-o<wbr>r-ponyxl-or-dora

>Preview image doesn't have metadata

I kneel bluvoll.

Have any of you guys made any "sets" of images? Like a 8-10 collection of images of similar style that kind of tell a story? I do a lot of throwaway one-off gens but really been wanting to do full sets of my favorite girls

>>8025026
yeah I made a bunch of images of going on a date and what that entailed

>>8025026
Made a beach date with Komi's mom back in easyfluff days, spend half the day on it and it got zero replies. It's just not worth the effort.

>>8025030
You need to get your eyes fixed anon if you are this blind

>>8025034
>bro is genning for you's
ngmi cuckie

>>8025035
t. bluvoll
fix your shit retard

>>8025037
I'm not the dude, but it seems you are just blind anon, get help.

Are there any CivitAI alternatives that allow loli? Pixiv is kinda dated and hard to browse and it's censored.

>>8025037
His loras improved a a lot from the early pony days. Don't know why this thread hypes him up so much, but he's at least capable of learning.

>>8025039
Sorry man, didn't know it's such a sensitive topic for you! Your loras are very good!

>>8025045
You are just farming (You)s at this point anon, please seek help, I'm just happy to get oppai cunnys.

>>8025044
Personally I'm happy for HLherng's style as I wanted this for the way he draws oppai loli, granted I have yet to download more of his stuff, and this lora hasn't been nuked, yet

>>8025026
Been doing a few before and after. But I should definitely try something longer. But need to get a good idea for a story.

https://mega.nz/folder/yMpVTCoD#OQe<wbr>f5qZicW4smMspsvFDHw

>>8024943
Here is the link, well add p i x e l d r a i n dot com before this (without spaces and a .)

/u/v2htLHXH

It behaves like ebara for style loras, have to use more strength depending of the lora.

Character/concept loras work good.

It responds well to artists of the 4th tail lyco/model, but with more strength (like 1.2-1.4).

>>8025026
Yeah. My wildcards are a mess because I have a bunch of what I call storyboards.

>>8025026
Not really. At least, not that go beyond 2~ images where the first is the setup and second followup. Though I might have a gallery or two that could arguably be close I mostly just put stuff together by theme/character.
I do, however, do the dumb "same image but with minor differences" type of image 'set' on occasion, though.

>>8025034
Did you upload it here or somewhere else? Besides 4chan, civitai and rule34.xxx I'm not sure where else one can upload explicit AI art.
Komi's mom is actually really cute, have you dropped art of her before? Saw some really good gens the other day.

>>8025070

I'll take your video card (4090) as a present.

>>8025072
just use colab like every self-respecting gpulet, dumbass

>>8025026
I did, now I don't have much time.
There was a guy who made stories about witches who take magical power from anal plugin.
Does anybody know if he has a patreon, blog, socials or anything?

>>8025065
Just /hdg/. But it's 1.5. They all look off now, with the shiny skin and weird anatomy.

>>8025026
only a rough progression of a few different sex poses
it gets a bit difficult to compose it into a comic format so I can add text, like Hanaji and Mistarman do

>>8025066
just noticed after 5gb will slowdown, but rip :( it will end eventually lol

>>8025075
Then you need to set learning rates to 1 as that is what prodigy wants, remember, repeats will make the style stronger but it might get burnt.

>>8025084
quick,say she's actually a giantess

>>8025082
It hasn't cut my download speed to 0 yet so it'll finish at some point, hopefully

>>8025029
Who did you make the Date set with? I thought about doing a date set ending in a creampie and eventual pregnancy.

>>8025080
>Just /hdg/. But it's 1.5. They all look off now, with the shiny skin and weird anatomy.
I'm sure you can run them through another Model and get them cleaned up! I play around on 1.5 as well but due to limitations with limbs/hands/faces I couldn't really fix them up.

>>8025081
>only a rough progression of a few different sex poses
>it gets a bit difficult to compose it into a comic format so I can add text, like Hanaji and Mistarman do
A comic idea actually sounds good. What kind of font did you use for the comic part?

>>8025102
I never got too far into it, but I found a font called animeace2.0 that's pretty much perfect for manga style dialogue.

>>8024764
Hey /hdg/, anyone still training LORAs for fun? I've been messing around with OneTrainer but am too retarded at least for now, got a dataset if anyone wants to use it. Character LORA for ToTK Zelda Dragon (humanoid).

https://files.catbox.moe/8otpf8.rar<wbr>

>>8025109
Ass big, thigh big -> not loli.
The lower body part is the most important!

>>8025114
>not loli
thank god, I can sleep well now

>>8025114
If you mean why the catbox, I got warned for less so don't wanna risk it

>>8024927
greg rutkowski became the face of both AI and anti-AI back when everyone added him to SD 1.4 to enhance their prompts, and then he threw a fit about it and emad personally removed him to cope.
i think the lewd models today are so far fried that trying to get it to draw painterly waifus would be practically impossible. i'd love to see a lora try

>>8025128
There was a lora for a knive oil style posted on civit a while ago. Makes very pretty backgrounds but it doesn't affect the 1girls in the slightest

>>8025030
>>8025037
>>8025045

Someone namedrops me and there's always someone else who knows "more" but won't share shit because they don't know shit and most likely hasn't realized that most style loras aren't trained with score tags so removing them increases the power of the lora.

>>8025044
I don't know either anon, I'm pretty much average at this, but I'm happy since some folks actually try my stuff before calling it shit.

>>8025022
Gotta evade civitai's mods for as long as possible.

>>8025139
You keep throwing shit for someone who doesn't care? perhaps you got mogged by one of my loras, must be, I can't see another reason for being this salty anon.

>>8025134
You laugh, yet he has way more followers than you.

I hate training on pony
look at this shit https://files.catbox.moe/2jv8wq.png<wbr>
what the FUCK is happening
there's an optimal epoch in the middle AGAIN and it diverges fast

>>8025149
Unfortunately for you, you lack the sufficient skill to be shitting on artists as a nogen.

Did the civit jeets nuke the "not artist style lora"?

Can your local make better gens than Pixai?

>>8025158
nvm got filtered by my blacklist

>>8025152
Like the Oekakizuki one? I remember that time.

>>8025134
>>8025144
He also has more followers than asura.
This is some real butthurt just cause the dude called out ai.

>>8025160
No... but you might get done for loli.

>>8025177
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

>>8025167
r3c here. I was quite thankful that bluvoll posted his config here sometime back.
My oekakizuki was pretty much a dataset diff; I used too many images that were flatter in tones, resulting in pretty bland lookint outputs.
Honestly speaking, bluvoll's loras have improved from when he was called same face faggot desu. Don't get what this guy is on about.
Haven't tried his doras yet though; was meaning to ask if doras are really a big step up from loras?

>>8025133
yeah this seems to be a failing of newer models. so over-fitted and sloptuned that it can't even learn actual styles outside of slight variation. this is why finetunes are kind of a fail and the best ideal solution would be to have all this stuff in an epicly sized base model.

Anything you say may and will be used against you

>>8024806
Ok what is the mix % best looking stuff I have seen. I'm using it with the lyco but I want to make the mix like you. If you would.

>>8025190
I'd say this is a pony exclusive issue. NAI or juggernaut don't have such limitations.

>UserWarning: None of the inputs have requires_grad=True. Gradients will be None

>>8025197
animagine does too, I don't see why NAI wouldn't

>>8025166
How in the fuck did you make the penetration looks so right?

>>8025204
try to prompt crazy stuff like sex or vaginal

>>8025151
actual madness
doubling the LR does almost nothing on loss

>>8025135
>and most likely hasn't realized that most style loras aren't trained with score tags so removing them increases the power of the lora
That... That isn't how that really works, though.
It can depend a bit on the artist but the majority will benefit from an amount of score tags. Generally speaking, the closer you can make the model output something SIMILAR to the artist you're using a lora for, the better the actual representation will be. And score tags can absolutely help achieve that.
Maybe it's different if you're using some dilluted shitmix but with base pony it's just not how it works. And no, this lora wasn't made with score tags.
Image technically related. Might not be the best example since it's a test lora but with score tags you can actually see the artist influence while without it's pretty much lost. And if you want it even stronger you can also call in in-model artists like so
https://files.catbox.moe/rwj4fb.png<wbr>
The reason to not include score tags in training is because it's just not a super great idea to anchor it to a score tag. And while it will help converge faster it muddies the final likeness a bit.

>>8025197
NAI with vibe transfer can certainly do a better job. This was using a single midjourney output at 0.55 strength. Wonder how many images you'd need to make even a pony lora that's even half as good...
a grim state of affairs it is!

>>8025212
Nta but thats nice to know
Mind sharing your training config?
I would like to experiment with training with and without score

>>8025212
It really depends on the style you're going for. Try anything flat color or with an oversized head,eyes, etc. and score tags actually push it away from what you want.

I agree on not training with score tags, but because it makes your lora incompatible with loras that work better prompted without score tags. Also you're re-training the quality they're supposed to bring into whatever quality your dataset is.

>>8025166
>https://files.catbox.moe/kzvpr1.pn<wbr>g
Is this girl your OC?

>>8025186
Bluvoll here, yep they are! give 'em a try, just start with half u-net LR vs normal LoCON it will def catch more of the smaller details, gotta find what works for you, in some cases even lower LRs have given me nicer results.

>>8025212
 From my experience with most of my DoRAs, and like Rebis, since the bulk of the training goes into 1girl,2girls tags and well 1boy when needed, the score tags will help with some stuff, but it def killed Rebis' coloring and stuff without providing much of value, and the DoRA is already overfitting a bit into the backgrounds used for the Hypnosis CGs, you'll see that as you add more of the score tags the image loses a bit more of style, specially below score_6, usually score_9, source_anime, will help, but the whole score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, source_anime, or score_9,score_8_up,score_7_up,score<wbr>_6_up,score_5_up,score_4_up, source_anime won't help, as Astralite kept the *whole* score_9,score_8_up,score_7_up,score<wbr>_6_up,score_5_up,score_4_up, in training captions for god know's how many images.

https://slow.pics/c/mYl1JaPy Comparison to show what I mean

>>8025216
Not for realistic stuff, nai vibe transfer will almost always anime-fy the input

>>8025213
You're right anon, the universe will perish once you, the sole concious observer, are gone.

>>8025081
Considering most genners don't even bother to remove genner watermarks, it would be nice to have more people putting in some degree of effort to edit their images and make a story.

Hopefully more of the people that were doing only captions before hop on it and we can have more comics.

I want to bake a couple loras for nababa and ohisashiburi but can't be assed to get the data organized

>>8025211
loss is a largely useless metric

>>8025204
It just kind of gens like that
>>8025220
Yeah

>>8025151
Just a normal monday in my experience.

>>8025217
my shit is currently a clusterfuck but here
https://mega.nz/file/N60yjJKC#Hb7Fe<wbr>-eHYYjEXFbVqBjM99KYM9I-C2dOt2mrlecv<wbr>5xo
Config is built for 12GB VRAM. If you've got less drop to batch2 and change gradient accumulation to 8 and suffer.
It's set to 190 steps but that's just around what you should be targeting your epoch count to be, adjusted by your dataset size(so around 3k~ samples). Don't use repeats. You don't need to keep the "save every 22 steps" setting as is but if you change it at least make it every 176 and then compare step 176 and whatever your final is. It'll vary but one will be better than the other.
>>8025218
If you want flat color drop score_8_up. It's the score tag that applies "realistic shading." Or drop all but score_9.
Literally all you need to do. Dropping further score tags can break up the standard anatomy so unless the artist is very defined in a "different" sort of way it's not necessarily going to be an improvement.
Either way that part of the discussion is a bit moot in this case since all the artists this guy does are incredibly boring.
>>8025221
Yeah no shit if you apply every fucking score tag under the sun you're not going to get best results.
And if you're having issues with color(and jesus fucking christ you are), enable multires noise offset, use 8-10 iterations and .4 discount.

>>8025239
it does seem to correlate with my observations, the first dip is the midway first optimal epoch, and at the end it dips again, second optimal epoch
1 : https://files.catbox.moe/67y7v4.png<wbr>
2 : https://files.catbox.moe/98totm.png<wbr>

>>8025246
I'd be like that if I wasn't a procrastinating sack of shit, my runs take 30-45 minutes (45 after fixing the unset bucket res on the furry ps1 script) for 5k total steps so it's not that bad

>>8025240
>Yeah
She's incredibly cute! Do you upload anywhere else or just here?

>>8025257
>I'd be like that if I wasn't a procrastinating sack of shit, my runs take 30-45 minutes (45 after fixing the unset bucket res on the furry ps1 script) for 5k total steps so it's not that bad
How lucky of you, seriously
75% of those folders I showed in the screenshot baked for at least 2 and half hours or more, the 20% left surely more than 4 hours and only 5% like just 1 and half hours
Don't want to be mean but, yeah, you could definitely do a lot more

>>8025234
I didn't even know those 2 existed, I thought the most anyone did with slop was inpaint to get rid of extra fingers and shit like that.

>>8025196
just mixed the lyco extract into the model with 1.0 strength. (using lycoris tools to merge, not from kohya)

>>8025254
Yeah I know, I just used them all for the demonstration, same for multires noise offset, thx regardless.

>>8025026
Used to in 1.5 but can't be assed since I haven't landed on a good style that isn't too recognizable.
I also haven't gotten around to cobbling something to (randomly) pick an input for controlnet/link it to an associated prompt for forge.

nsfw, 1girl, mei (overwatch), 1,2, [[fizrotart]], dino (dinoartforame), houkisei s-3526215803.png

greetings from /slop/

might start lurking here, lot more science going on

>>8025306
It might not be complete slop, but it's also not /h/, so I'd be glad if you
>might start lurking here
didn't.

>>8025026
I tried to but pony randomly changing styles (even with loras) killed my desire.

>>8025311
did you end up doing the futa set you were working on?

>>8025309
my bad anon, forgot that other boards are more prescriptive. annoying that there isn't a 'western style diffusion general'. /aco/ skews towards cartoons too much.

>>8025310
I think they're all first year middle school when the show starts? So like 14, plus a year or two might've passed since then, I didn't keep watching.

>>8025316
I did not. I really should go back to messing with it now that I updated forge couple.
I just wake up and think up something else I want to try or a new outfit to mess around with and get eternally sidetracked repeating the same cycle every new day.

>>8025317
Yeah, it's a shame. To be honest you can probably stay, if you don't mind one or two schizos screaming about every gen you post. But /aco/ will tolerate it better.

>>8025319
The OP is literally Rei and Asuka. I think he'll be fine anon.

i figured out a method to manually do random padding and replaced around 1/4th of the dataset with it.
even though a relatively small amount of the training data is using this method i think the results are a pretty noticeable improvement. the AI is much more likely to allow the character to take up a smaller amount of the image and the poses are less awkward and body horrorish. there's still an issue with stretching the coat tails out to the corners but i imagine that would be resolved if i was exclusively using this new formatting for the training data. i'm probably going to try that next but i have to redo most of the dataset because i'm an idiot and deleted the original copies of the screenshots i took.
bucketing is still an issue, though. i could go through and manually crop these images so that they fit to the neared bucket dimensions without cutting off any of the character but that would be an absolutely massive pain in the ass so fuck that. it would be nice if there was a way to just automatically pad or intelligently cropped the images so that they'd fit in the buckets on their own. or just automate the whole process.

>>8025322
>schizos
2024. It's now schizo to want hentai on a hentai board.

>Add in "looking at viewer" into prompt
>Eyes suddenly jump in quality
Pic not related but just a funny observation I found while genning.

>>8025327
Finally some good fucking bukkake

>>8025325
no, the screaming is
if you don't like something just report it and move on

is there a specific prompt for those manga style square reaction cut-in panels of somebody reacting to something?

Also one for miqo anon enthusiasts

>>8025328
Not enough bukkake in my opinion. Gonna try the cum shower lora, will post results later.

>>8025314
mouth to mouth wasn't working, so she tried mouth to cock

>>8025330
Report to whom exactly? This board doesn't have mods who care.

>>8025333
You can add cum pool too. With a bit of inpaint pony doesn't seem to care if it pools up on the ground or inbetween her breasts

>>8025335
>>8025333
Who is this blind blonde catgirl I've been seeing?

>>8025333
Thanks for including her in the fun

>>8025341
Just a favorite of mine I like to gen, got her from another anon.

>>8025337
of course it does
the spammer is down to like ten posts per thread because he got banned before

>>8025345
Nice, would you mind sharing the settings for these?

>>8025346
The spammer got bored. That guy has a dynamic ip and he doesn't care about bans.
Have you ever seen any /aco/ removed? There wasn't a single case of that. So I have no idea what you are talking about in regards to reporting and moving on.

>>8025275
lycoris tools... where do I find that? I am retarded

>>8025347
nta but I'm pretty sure there was a catbox with her in each of the last five threads

>>8025347
we call em catboxes round here pal

https://files.catbox.moe/8iu9ss.png<wbr>

>>8025348
And yet we're not drowning in lips and noses, they're at what...5 images out of 80? So either it's being cleaned up or it's not a real problem in the first place.

>>8025254
Also fwiw I didn't knew about score_8 shifting it towards realistic shading, so thx for that, that helps clear some of my misconceptions, by any chance do you know what the other scores bring up?

>>8025360
what the fuck are you talking about schizo

>>8025357
I don't remember the exact list and I'm pretty sure I've seen it elsewhere, so while it may have been pushed further by the person who did the finetune I'm pretty sure it already existed as a sort of bias, but here's a short list from the guy that did counterfeit/'PD for anime"
score_9: high quality illustrations
score_8_up: realistic texture
score_7_up: anime-like
Couldn't really tell you for the others.

>dogshitgen.png
>Wow that's amazing anon! catbox pls (You)
>Sure here: https://files.catbox.moe/samefag.pn<wbr>g (You)
>Thanks anon! keep making great gens! (You)
>No problem (You)

How much of hdg is this?

>>8025368
train Llama on hdg and find out

>>8025349
I git cloned Lycoris and used merge.py from here https://github.com/KohakuBlueleaf/L<wbr>yCORIS/tree/main/tools

>>8025368
Are you getting mad that other people...like images?

>>8025377
He is mad no one is asking for his shitty catboxes

doesn't matter if it's /aco/ or /h/, it's slop all the way down anyways

>>8025366
That works for me Anon, thx for clearing my mistakes with what I said regarding taking out the score tags and making the style stronger, appreciate it.

>>8025380
Let's be honest, its just your stuff that's slop

>>8025368
Sorry bro, I just thought the catgirlk was hot

you ever save a really fucked up lookin gen because it made you laugh?

>prompt for blue sky
>gets orange sky
>9 loras
Am I raping the latent space too much?

>>8025405
It's more likely due to quality tags.

>>8025408
really? wow how
>>8025409
I'm at cfg 6, made a xyz i'm not sure I can go any lower cuz it gets bland

>>8025414
Just from my own testing I've seen that making certain score tags weaker reduces the orange sky thing. The quality tags are pretty much a complete and utter mess that have way too strong of an effect on a generation. Try dropping score 8 since if >>8025366 is correct then I feel like score 8 is probably the most likely culprit. You could also try making score 9 and score 7 weaker as well.

My coil whine just stopped during genning out of nowhere. Am I fucked?

cascade good
post cunny erotic
arti bad
animagine shit
pony garbage

(definitely not trying to summon the groidspammer)

>>8025453
>chest flat, boobs coming out of lower ribcage
I...is she ok...

>>8025473
perspective status: two midgets banging but one has disproportionately long thighs

style nice otherwise though

>>8025348
>bored
The true reason is that one hero anon keeps getting india rangebanned. Thread immediately improved once he started doing that. It gets rid of the Jeet who pretends to be south american and jeje zoomer post spams too, if that's not the same one (seems to have same timezone and posting habits so wouldn't be surprised).

Please hero anon, if you're out there, keep doing God's work. We love you

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, 1boy, {{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alt s-3826983275.png

>>8025375
ahhhh I have the blueleaf extension. I don't see it's tab or anything. X_X

>>8025477
>>8025468
Thanks for the feedback.

>>8025487
outside of his legs this one is much better, but really that's me nitpicking at this point

>>8025490
Goodnight weird cat anon, may your weird cat gens be plentiful

>>8025490
Hope you die in your sleep, scum :3

>>8025466
stop trying to make groid happen

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, 1boy, {{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alt s-3127385341.png

>>8025487
>no stretch on the cunny
Fixed anon. enjoy.

>>8025466
did you know animagine can do cunny?

>>8025426
Amazing. Makes me wish the giantess diffusion thread on /d/ was more active.

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, 1boy, {{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alt s-1089521714.png

> read several posts that auto1111 is as fast as forge now
> reinstall auto1111
> gen speed is half of forge
> gens literally take twice as long
Anyone who keeps shilling for auto1111 must be shot on sight.

>>8025574
complete and utter skill issue

>>8025577
Yeah, I agree. auto1111 dev must have severe skill issue if he keeps failing to improve gen speed for this long.

>>8024767
Reminds me that I really should bake eye lora, maybe whole head even.

>>8025580
so it's not a skill issue, it's a skill issue bait, huh

>>8025026
I'm trying to gen images for my VN, hard to get images with consistent style and character that actually looks the same in all cases.
Then when I've already genned "good" images, I suddenly get something better and I get urge to regen all those earlier ones to get this new improved look.. it feels like an never ending loop.

>>8025582
Just do a finetune at this point

I hate this terrible curse, named "ponyv6".

>>8025587
Havent done that yet, have to look in to it if my 16Gb GPU is enough for it.

>>8025574
>You have to do the performance pull requests
>If less than 8 gb vram, use --medvram
For me, it's now a similar speed to forge instead of 2 mins vs 15 secs, but takes longer to start generating, and stutters your pc more. so forge is still performance king.

Is merging loras on the model really the same as just using them?<br>Someone said its *not* the same, so idk.

>>8025577
4090 anon here, forge is still better -- Memory management is much better on Forge.

YOU ARE FAKE NEWS!

>>8025574
The "optimizations" only help the poor souls that got tricked into buying a 4070 last year

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, {{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alternate s-418587767.png

>>8025607
should give your wife some goggles, those eyes are gonna hurt later

>>8025321
>>8025306
I wouldn't mind /2.5dg/, but then things may get a bit nitpicky.
To a lot of people here: if it's not classic hentai = western, but stuff like this falls into an inbetween valley category that neither fits hentai nor comics/cartoons.
It's true this neo style is more popular with modern western artists, but it's also nowhere near traditionally western, it's something else without a name.

>>8025574
For me on a 4090, forge is still like 5% faster than A1111 with optimizations.

Though, not as 50% faster than before the patches.
Idk but I can't seem to unload the model from VRAM to RAM in forge as like on A1111. It gets pegged into VRAM.

>>8025624
maybe the real treasure was the rape done along the way

>>8025626
Is A1111 still garbage load times when swapping LoRas?

>>8025631
yeah, imo not worth to change except if you want some specific lycos or want to unload the model from vram into ram.

>>8025624
I would like to have a catbox please

>>8025586
>I'm trying to gen images for my VN, hard to get images with consistent style and character that actually looks the same in all cases.
>Then when I've already genned "good" images, I suddenly get something better and I get urge to regen all those earlier ones to get this new improved look.. it feels like an never ending loop.
That happens to me all the time. Think I've genned a good set, then try again and end up with an even better style, better poses, better anatomy....
Eventually you reach a point where you have to call it, otherwise you'll be stuck in an endless rewrite stage except for your AI art.

>>8025586
>>8025636
how do you think real artists feel when their skill improves and they wanna re-draw all their old stuff lmao

>>8025586
Yeah, anon. It is a bad idea. Style inconsistency is going to ruin everything. You can roll with it, but it is going to create impression of slop. If you want to ease your suffering, try training a lora on genned images with character\characters and style you want and like. Anons who made comics in SD15 era did that. Not sure how feasible it is in SDXL.

Anyone here actually have a Patreon/Pixiv?

{{{ilulu (maidragon)}}}, {{{kobayashi-san chi no maidragon}}}, {{{official art}} s-4049844777.png

>>8025625
Excellent work
I hate big dicks in porn but this is a great scene

>>8025653
I don't wanna start a shitstorm or put the other guy down, but you should know it's a rather effortless gen

>>8025609
You're right bro, what was I thinking

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, {{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alternate s-862996416.png

I've read some samplers perform better in img2img and inpaint, instead of t2i. Which are those?

>>8025655
It's got 5 fingers on each hand so that's good enough

>>8025659
Are you a lurker? it's not 1.5 anymore, if your prompt is normal and straight forward hands will be perfect off the bat 90% of the time. The fuckups come when you demand more obscure shit

>>8025661
>Are you a lurker? it's not 1.5 anymore, if your prompt is normal and straight forward hands will be perfect off the bat 90% of the time. The fuckups come when you demand more obscure shit
Yeah, just started generating 5 days ago

>>8025665
I see, keep it up.
If you're not getting consistent anatomy with 1girls there's probably something wrong with your base stuff/lora mix

>>8025271
4080S at batch 6 (I can do up to 9 generally but it gets noticeably slower, 6 is optimal), used to do it on a 2060M for SD1.5 and that was painful

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, {{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alternate s-758130978.png

What's the best way to add a transparent liquid dripping out of a hole? Trying to inpaint with cum obviously doesn't work because it comes off white.

>>8024859
Do you use control net for these or did you train a lora?

>>8025651
I have both. Patreon never really took off, probably because I don't do smut, and it was a chore filling paperwork for it so I let it die. Got a couple thousand followers on Pixiv. Fanbox did use to pay before they banned AI.

>>8025690
Inpaint with pussy juice? Idk what you actually want to pour out of a hole though.

>>8025695
Lube. Pussy juice draws a pussy.

>>8025694
It is if your base doesn't blow ass

>>8025696
Water-based or oil-based? Could try slime (substance) or water, but you're probably better off using natural language here.

>>8025650
This is what I'm planning to do. Can't bake lora with melted eyes, especially in those full_body images

>>8025700
Funny example of context changing how we interpret facial expressions

>>8025650
>Anons who made comics in SD15 era did that.
and, novelty aspect aside, it looked like fucking shit

>how /aco/ can we make it while getting away with it general

>>8025710
This but wouldn't call it getting away with it if nobody is enforcing that rule in the first place.

suggestions on how to get this pose consistently? so far I'm working with:

>woman lying on her side having sex with a man,1boy,1girl,on side, vaginal, pussy juice, female orgasm,blush,cum, large penis, pussy,hugging testicles,on a bed,indoors,from behind

but it is most certainly not consistent

>while I was practicing trying to get my first art correct, my AI patreon sensei released 2-3 complete sets
>The faces always look consistent and don't suffer from eye drift or eye shape variation
>lips kissable and perfect, no extra fingers, no deformed limbs, perfect cumshots
He only started this year how the fuck can one get so good in so little time?
I mean if he did it so can I. I can't let myself get discouraged.

>>8025720
>hugging testicles
I'm surprised this doesn't cause problems

>>8025726
it's NAI

Jokes aside, some styles are much more stable than others.

>>8025720
It's not tagged and I don't even think it has a name. Be glad you can get it inconsistently

>>8025730
>two amputees missing opposite legs

>>8025730
Thankfully it's either /u/ or too much male focus usually.

>>8025732
The one on the right isn't
left was behind before the i2i pass and I forgot

>>8025730
>1girl
100% detail
>2girls
75% detail on one girl, 25% for the other
>3girls
20% on each girl, who fucking knows where the other 40% went

>>8025735
>The one on the right isn't
her leg completely disappears in an impossible way.
give it up, anon. she's got a stub.

>>8025730
I'd gen them separatedly and photoshop them together.

>>8025739
it's behind, do you lack object permanence or something?

>>8025740
That works but then they don't interact with each other, just sit kinda close.

>>8025741
nta but given the lower leg is a big straight bone you'd have to see her foot end up somewhere. Either going under her other leg and to the right of the image, or down next to her other leg, or behind the middle girl's back and kicking the left girl.

>>8025741
behind where, exactly?
Even if you have her tuck the leg(which doesn't physically work with her positioning), you'd see her foot hanging out. And her ass and forward knee would both be set much higher.
Again, she's got a fucking stub. Just accept it.

>The ThiccwithaQ AI Style has over 3,000 entries
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=p<wbr>ost&s=list&tags=thiccwithaq_%28ai_s<wbr>tyle%29+
Is ThiccWithAQ the best hentai style?
I see everyone using it.

>>8025748
why do you think they are all over her? she is the only one with 2 legs in a 10km radius
stub ass city

>>8025740
>photoshop them together.
Bro the point of AI is to get what you want without using real art programs.
Prompting is easier to learn than splicing in photoshop. Also Photoshop isn't free.

>>8025750
It is what asura was on 1.5, a stabilizer for style mixes. Rarely looks good by itself.

Also, half of those entries is just floox.

>>8025750
those peoples are using mixes of like 5 differents artist and twaq is just one of them, it doesnt even means anything since its all different variant

>>8025746
You could cut out those girls separatedly and use i2i, they would be genned in same spot.
>>8025753
>not free
Weird, I've used one for free over a decade.

>>8025753
>Also Photoshop isn't free.
Only if you're using it in an actual professional capacity.
Because I sure as hell haven't given adobe a single cent over the last two decades.

>>8025753
Not the only point. It's just another tool for an artist, not replacing existing ones. Pointless trying to gen something perfect if it can be fixed in PS in 10 min.

>>8025730
trying anything with multiple girls that doesn't have some weird shit has been a giant gacha game for me, pic related

>>8025759
>>8025758
Even when I was paying for photoshop because I used it for work I was still using a cracked version because adobe are pieces of shit, fucking bloatware I swear

>>8025730
There, stop busting my nuts, 1girlers

>>8025750
Do you think they use Pony or SDXL? or even AnyLora?, really want to replicate for personal use

>>8025753
Quit being a baby and download Gimp. You don't need the overbloated garbage that is photoshop, you only need basic tools.

>>8025766
but what if they need to draw a circle

>>8025767
no one needs that, circles are for women

>>8025763
based effort poster dabbing on the haters

>>8025770
It's all to help him improve, it's because we care.

Right girl is still missing her lower leg btw.

>>8025766
for me its paint.net
love bootleg content aware fill

>>8025777
and she forever will, fuck that bitch

>>8025765
I use SDXL/Autism with a NyantchaV2 LoRa

>>8025765
They are using based64 I think =)

>>8025782
Hey thanks for the reply, do you any samples to start over?

>>8025784
First time hearing that based64

>>8025785
>First time hearing that based64
very good model, do you see "based" in the name? everyone who's good with ai uses it.

>>8025730
easier (faster) on nai
works just fine on pony but yeah effort

>>8025746
>That works but then they don't interact with each other, just sit kinda close.
you inpaint over the areas that need it after and they'll interact, although it might need additional tweaking like drawing a crude line or a shadow

>>8025753
>Bro the point of AI is to get what you want without using real art programs.
the point of AI is giving you an image that you want, if it struggles to do so you've got additional tools to guide it into giving you the desired result
>Prompting is easier to learn than splicing in photoshop.
both are easy, there's thousands of basic photoshop tutorials
>Also Photoshop isn't free.
yeah it is, there's no point paying adobe unless you need it for work or whatever anyway

I'm not an artist and my photoshop skills are the most basic level shit, yet I use it because it solves a ton of issues and saves me a lot of time in the end, but it only works so well because img2img and inpainting are a thing

Good morning, sirs, do the needful and post tifa paizuri

Is it bad if I img2img another person's AI art and then sell it on patreon without credit?

>>8025798
not at all, but be sure that the image has at least two black penises

>>8025587
you do realize begging for another XL finetune here will get you another ConfettiXL, right

>>8025798
you can even do it with non-Ai art, who cares

Is there good tanishi lora? rentry doesn't have one

>>8025788
>easier (faster) on nai
More idiot proof, that's about it.

>>8025813
this, with local you can do absolutely everything, only limited by your imagination, especially if you are a real artist that uses controlnet

>>8025815
Happy shitting today, schizo-kun!

You have to say "blacked" for the spambot to activate

>>8025816
You aren't any less of a thread shitter than the schizo baiter that replied to you.

>>8025820
nah it comes later and usually activates when someone mentions cascade.

>>8025811
Why? It's a nice gen regardless of if the cocks are black or white

>>8025816
nta but it's literally the same tool, some people just don't understand how to manually set up inpaint so they think it's slow (processing unnecessary pixels) and worse (failing often due to resolution mismatch.

The way to use it is simple:
Tick "only masked"
Tick "soft inpainting"
Padding 64, Mask blur 8 (optional)

Paint, and use common sense for the pixel tax (height - width)
Approximate the size of the "rectangle" your inpaint covers, it doesn't need to be perfect, just don't leave height and width to default img size (slow, fucks things up). Mind the aspect ratio if your inpaint area is very wide or thin.

denoise you should be familiar with, 0.3-0.4 is good, higher more changes but more gacha, lower safer but only details.

>>8025830
>writing all this shit replying to the groidspammer
jej

>>8025829
Jordach is dead. NAI boogeymen dumped him into the same mass grave as lvmin

>>8025830
does soft inpainting work on forge? i heard it was broken

bros... less than 24 hours until latent caching is finished... cascade will be entering the oven...

>>8025835
How much is that in business days?

>>8025835
Genuine question: Can someone explain what the hype around Cascade is? I've seen a few example gens, and they are not as impressive as what you can do with AutismMix

>>8025842
slopmakie baker claims he'll BTFO NAI and pony in one fell swoop with SAI's new architecture. example gens were from a micro-dataset tune with the purpose of getting used to training cascade

>>8025843
>3boys, priest, facial hair, hat, red dress, gloves, cross necklace, indoors

>>8025842
People are just memeing, nobody actually cares about cascade when arti 2.0 is around the corner

>>8025844
>slopmakie baker claims he'll BTFO NAI and pony in one fell swoop
Who.
Are.
You.
Quoting.

>>8025842
It can raw gen into 2K res, and seems to respond well to artist prompts so far. The hope is that with further training it will not look like ass.

no one is ever going to beat NAIv3 and we're forever going to have to live in despair since it won't leak<br>you have to pick between clop slop, chink jank or furfaggotry

>>8025856
>no one is ever going to beat NAIv3
Not with that attitude

>>8025856
all we need is someone who is at least on a same competentce and money level as astratroon AND without crippling mental illness

>>8025861
>mental illness
unfortunately this is a requirement to make good models it seems

It's just a matter of time. NAIv3 is a fixed milestone, with only minor updates like SMEA and vibe transfer. More likely by the time local beats v3 it they will have a new version out.

How do I get NAI?<br>I have SDXL but it would be cool to use NAI as well

I would unironically fine tune a model if I had the funds and hardware, I bet it's fun

>>8025870
>I bet it's fun
it's very tedious unless you have autism

>>8025830
>>8025834
Can you explain what the soft inpainting option does? I'm trying to find out if Comfy has that option, but things are often named differently so I have to go by its effects.

>>8025842
I like it because it produces something different from pony. Not necessarily strictly better, I definitely made some good shit out of pony and it's derivatives as well, but it just draws different enough to have fun with, a shiny new toy.
https://i.4cdn.org/e/17161617958647<wbr>14.png
https://i.4cdn.org/e/17161618613344<wbr>35.jpg
https://i.4cdn.org/e/17161619508054<wbr>79.jpg
https://i.4cdn.org/e/17161727967774<wbr>38.png
https://i.4cdn.org/e/17161728692383<wbr>82.png
https://i.4cdn.org/e/17161729412288<wbr>88.png
https://i.4cdn.org/e/17155748866683<wbr>08.jpg
https://i.4cdn.org/e/17156269081667<wbr>94.jpg

I think if you have $25 to throw every month, you shouldn't even care about cascade, it will most likely not be at that level even with full bake. If you don't though, it's going to be a nice alternative local model to have in your arsenal.

>>8025869
Eh I can do that. Is it censored at all?

>>8025870
I remember reading about some pony mix on Civit finetuned on NAI pics, dude said it took 90 hours on a 3090. So it's not totally out of reach.

>>8025877
NOOOOO CASCADE WILL BE ULTRA BETTER THAN NAI!!!! THE MAGIC FURRYMAN SAID SO

>>8025877
>Cuteybutts
kek.
>>8025880
isnt it finetuned on like... 1k pics? it's a memetune that pretty much only changes the style, not a real finetune that would make a difference in the field

>>8025884
God damn, that's super fucking nice. Absolutely perfect face. That's the kind I wanna generate!

>>8025830
>it's the same tool
>proceeds to describe how it's different
sure it's the same thing on a surface level but the way you approach these is not the same at all, plus if nai uses a dedicated inpainting model that's already a pretty big difference, the way you inpaint with those models is not the same as with regular ones even on 1.5

there's no optimal settings for local inpainting because it's a case by case thing, sometimes you need a minor tweak, sometimes you need to make big changes, your prompt can work against you more than it can on nai and it's more prone to fucking up things

the other anon said nai is more idiot proof, and sure it is to a degree, but the way you approach nai inpainting is different, the model can be too smart for it's own good and sometimes you need to trick it in order for it to give you what you want, using settings you can brute force inpainting on local but on nai you can't really do that, the prompt and how it relates to what is present/absent in the image is the only thing that matters, well it's also way more sensitive to your mask as opposed to local

when you inpaint on nai no matter the size of your mask it'll give you a result that'll perfectly complete the image (unless your prompt or artists are extremely shit), that's not possible on local, v3 seems to take the entire image into account in an intelligent way, that's why you can take literally any image and outpaint it with nai and it's why the inpainting trick works

>>8025891
you can do regular inpainting on nai (with the api extension)

>v3 seems to take the entire image into account in an intelligent way, that's why you can take literally any image and outpaint it with nai and it's why the inpainting trick works
https://huggingface.co/diffusers/st<wbr>able-diffusion-xl-1.0-inpainting-0.<wbr>1
likely because they finetuned sdxl inpainting model
(but of course they actually disclosed nothing)

>>8025834
Yes it works fine

>>8025873
It blends/fades the edges of the inpaint

>>8025831
I don't do it for the groid, general education

>>8025891
>sure it's the same thing on a surface level
Diametrically wrong.
It's only different in the surface level.

It's the same thing, just repackaged with a nice UI.
You guys are like macfags oblivious that the only difference is software.

>when you inpaint on nai no matter the size of your mask it'll give you a result that'll perfectly complete the image
Why the fuck wouldn't it be?

m8, the shortcomings are on you. Granted, the UI blows ass, but if you're not getting what you want it's not "the model" or whatever. You just gotta grind those tweaks. Eventually it becomes second nature.

What's the difference between the new openpose and openpose twins models? is one for multiple actors?

>>8025842
>hype
There's no hype, it's just a few delusional furries (including the author) trying to stir shit up based on a barely capable preview and the promise of a "better base model". While Stable Cascade is indeed somewhat better than SDXL, and it doesn't have some really annoying issues SDXL has, like being unable to utilize the full 0-255 pixel color range, furries blurp on a regular basis it's even better than SD3 which is fucking hilarious.
>>8025844
>micro-dataset
It wasn't even that small, around 0.4M images in total. Which is more than Kohaku-XL alpha 7 (0.3M), while being equally shit, if you keep in mind that Kohaku-XL was trained on 1girl, standing gachaslop instead of dogs spreading uncensored cunnies.

>>8025899
>Yes it works fine
Except it doesn't.

>pony comes out
>everyone naturally switches to it from 1.5
I find the cascade shilling to be weird. If it's better, everyone will naturally switch it. And if it's not? It'll be like all the other checkpoints on civit that have barely any downloads because they're shit. If your model is better, it doesn't need to be shilled. People will naturally gravitate towards it because the images generated by it will organically shill it for you.

>>8025912
How the fuck am I inpainting then?

>>8025891
The inpainting trick also works on local, it's just not as accurate. Outpaint and inpaint with large masks are the big difference, on local those struggle to connect the newly genned parts to the original, even with feathering.

>>8025894
If it's just that I could subtract SDXL base from Pony and replace it with this inpaint model. I think there's more to it, the whole finetune process has to be adapted somehow.

>>8025913
It's because they need more money to finish training in the first place.

>>8025913
>everyone naturally switches to it from 1.5
lol pony was fucking dead until autismanon made it usable

>>8025923
Go look at the old threads since you weren't here.
Fluff was dead for like two weeks before Autism came out.

>>8025915
>If it's just that I could subtract SDXL base from Pony and replace it with this inpaint model
yeah I thought about that too, but the way it works seems to be identical to nai's inpainting behavior
>I think there's more to it, the whole finetune process has to be adapted somehow.
yeah most likely

>>8025923
>lol pony was fucking dead until autismanon made it usable
It wasn't, people were certainly exploring it
but forge+autism releasing almost at same time were a perfect combo to make it explode in popularity

>>8025798
>Asking ethics questions on 4chan

New levels of retardation

>>8025932
>exploring it
So it's funny how the resident shitposter (not saying it's you) throws a fit when people explore other new sdxl/cascade finetunes and labels it "shilling" now that it's inconvenient for him

>>8025026
Yeah, I do it quite often. Usually mass gen stuff with some kind of a story progression. Sometimes it turns out pretty good.

>>8025936
the big difference is one is a model that is free and was already released while the other is trying to gather donations as is in beta

>>8025936
>So it's funny how the resident shitposter (not saying it's you) throws a fit when people explore other new sdxl/cascade finetunes and labels it "shilling" now that it's inconvenient for him
iirc there was similar shit back then but to a lesser degree, that was before general went downhill with all the insane shitposting and hostility

>>8025940
Cascade is non-profit and non-commercial use only

>>8025943
could've fooled me with how much the donation page has been posted here

>>8025945
You do understand you can donate to a non-profit organization right?

>>8025946
so cascade is an organization now?

>>8025947
Quite literally yes. The furry model is being trained through by a non-profit organization.

>>8025899
>trained different
>they might use an inpainting model which is already not the same as a regular model everyone uses locally
>It's the same thing, just repackaged with a nice UI.
direct me where I can download anime inpainting model this good

>You guys are like macfags oblivious that the only difference is software.
yeah there's no difference between nai leak, waifudiffusion and the furry models like easyfluff
I mean it's all 1.5, why would there be, right?

>Why the fuck wouldn't it be?
because the models werent trained in the same way, the way they behave when inpainting is different, you can't outpaint and complete images on local in the same way as on v3, there's a difference in both the model type and the training, how is that the same?

but sure, go do the inpainting trick on local, go grab a piece of official art and edit a piece of clothing into a different one on local, and then go and crop out piece of any image and outpaint it with regular inpainting on local, without using anything but the regular inpainting. now do the same thing on v3 and compare the results, surely it'll be the same

>>8025915
>The inpainting trick also works on local, it's just not as accurate.
local doesn't adhere to the style as well as nai does when you inpaint, which makes sense if they're using inpainting model

>Outpaint and inpaint with large masks are the big difference, on local those struggle to connect the newly genned parts to the original, even with feathering.
if you could smooth it out with feathering or another round of inpainting it'd be fine but there's almost always a large disconnect in composition

>>8025956
>if you could smooth it out with feathering or another round of inpainting it'd be fine but there's almost always a large disconnect in composition
Yeah that's what I mean. You can prime the outpaint area with some flat color smudges, give it a hint of what's supposed to go where and then it works. But not from scratch.

>>8025967
need to see her reaction when she wakes up

>>8025956
You can do all that in local, you're just bad and need handholding in the shape of something setting parameters for you.

The model isn't special. You are using Stable Diffusion with a proprietary model. That's it.
I'm using Stable Diffusion, you are using Stable Diffusion, Everyone is using Stable Diffusion.
It's exactly the same.

Well, minus the gacha microtransactions.

is the samefag in the room with us, anon?

>>8025989
So truthful. Just train a lora for every pic you'd ever want to edit, draw the raw sketch of what you want to get and then you can seamlessly edit it without the inpaint model.

>>8025993
>>8025995
>>8025996
time for the thread to go to shit for the next few hours

>>8025999
you can start ragespamming now, I'm going afk anyway

>naikeks going on about le amazeeng inpainting, again
Try fixing hands/eyes or any other fine detail without sketching and let's say fewer than 5 rerolls, I'll wait.
>b-but muh local also requires sketching
Yeah but nobody's calling local inpaiting amazing.

>>8025989
>you can do the same thing on local
>sure, show us the comparison
>no, you're just bad
alright

>It's exactly the same.
keep shitposting I guess

It is really good. Just say that you hate paid services and stop being a disingenuous prick.

>>8025989
nta but you really can't do outpainting without guidance, or inpaint very large areas. It was the same on even pre-NAI 1.5, a non-inpaint model struggles to match the composition of the new piece to what already exists, once the new piece exceeds a certain size.

I'm not sure if it's a niche use case or if we've just learned to avoid it since it doesn't work well.

>>8026011
Granted, outpainting is bonk, needs an extra step to blend

multidiffusion really is something
only limited by your vram
https://files.catbox.moe/sukaco.jpg<wbr>
3768x5520

>thought ai hands were bad
>trying to get a footjob gen with the correct amount of toes and not fucked up feet is near impossible
wtf

>>8026020
>only limited by your vram
you actually aren't
you can go crazy res even on 4-6gb, if you got all day of course kek

>>8026023
.4
really just experimenting tho

>>8026025
I don't have problems with footjobs on pony mixes, they can come up broken but not any more than anything else, I use foot focus when I prompt it usually, dunno if it helps, you can post a catbox if you want specific help

>>8026042
I'm fine here, not looking at gens anyway (don't like any), just here to chat!

>>8025661
> if you prompt ultra common shit like double_v and spreading pussy hands will be alright. If not, get fucked, xddddDDDDD

>>8026056
Yeh that's what I said, retard

>>8026058
Those are boring and overused, Anon.

Can someone with good hardware xyz the new openpose models? The previews look amazing, but im struggling to replicate them as there are no instructions as usual.

>>8026062
Yes, yes they are. You got any another insightful take?

>>8026070
Where do you get poses from? Pose estimator preprocessors are generally useless for stuff other than 1girl standing, which doesn't need openpose to begin with.

>>8026062
>>8026073
laughing my ass off at this whole exchange

>>8026075
Ew, you woke up alive. Day ruined.......

>>8026074
I use the preprocessor and manually fix it, but there should be a fair amount of poses on civit

>noise_offset=0.0357
>noise_offset_type="Multires"
>multires_noise_iterations=8
>multires_noise_discount=0.2

Holy shit god fucking bless the dude who told to use noise offset and multires, now this combination I did works wonders on AdamW
Original noise offset is shit

>>8026086
where's the peer reviewed paper to back up this claim, anon?

>>8026090
Papers? Sorry I instead rebake the same lora hundreds of times then compare, I cannot believe in something until I've at least tried it 3 times on different bakes with different settings

>>8026083
>>8026084
least obvious samefag

>>8026082
What's the live expectancy of a quarter-ton fat slob anyway? You gonna expire any time soon? I'll pay for burial services if you hasten the matter.

>>8026093
12gb very powerful ikr (don't mog me)

>>8026099
How much of it gets used? All of it?

>>8025212
>>8025221
My bias towards training with prodigy to better fit the style came from when I was using my old prodigy config that underfitted without score training; alas what a blunder

In my testing, training with score tags, in fact, did not lead to faster convergence, but produced only a similar level of performance when compared to training without score. On the other hand, the effect becomes much weaker when score tags aren't used.

Welp mistakes were made, guess I'm gonna have to retrain it all...
Cheers for the feedback mates.

>>8026098
The v3 taggers? or are there newer ones?

>>8026101
Umm why u ask that, I mean, you could perfectly train even on 8gb of Vram if u do base fp8 and gradient checkpointing, etc. Those settings I mention (the multires ones) has nothing to do with Vram usage, they instead helps you fix colour problems and stuff

>>8026083
>>8026084
>>8026097
>>8026104

so many fans so early in the morning, at least I'm posting something.

I guess I disrupted everyones flow of beating off to blacked posts and you got frustrated.

>>8026110
dont let them get to you wife-poster, keep it up

>>8026112
I never have genned blacked shit, I actually refused it pretty blatantly in the past I wouldnt subject her to that.

>>8026112
not a fan of his pics but I dont get where's the hate coming from
is it really because he posted some blacked pic once

>>8026111
>wife-poster
I mean yeah, there are all kinds of wives. This is one of those times when you say "oh yeah dude, been married 20 years, she's kind of a disgusting fat pig nowadays and we are at each other's throat every day but can't really divorce her because she'll take half my shit".

>>8026110
Anon, your gens look nice and cute. Don't listen to haters.

>>8026117
there are legitimately mentally ill individuals in here that get an aneurysm at a sight of a dark skinned male

nogens? nogenetics? like, you ran out of semen or what?

>>8026119
>>8025846
Saber escaped his grasp

>>8026122
Cute hahaha. Body positivity shit will always be alien to me.
>>8026117
I mostly hate fat disgusting slobs. But also this black lipstick is something only bottom of the barrel cheap hookers would wear. His gens are ugliness impersonated. What's there to like?

>>8026128
Nah m8, even I get annoyed at it and it's not even about the content.
The guy spamming only posts the lowest effort garbage, it's purely to troll/spam, maybe bbc spam from a tranny discord. Dunno about his motives, but his gens are awful.
Wouldn't mind it if he was posting high quality stuff, but then again if he did he wouldn't be able to spam, because those take time.
Basically, stop defending the bad actor, retard

>>8026147
are you talking about the miqo poster?

I hope Cascade will be my salvation from pony. I simply want to flawlessly copy artist styles for 1girling. Is that too much to ask? Fuck you, naikeks! Fuck you and your free of morals corp!

>>8026141
She's not even fat and doesn't fall under body positivity shit. How hard is it to ignore stuff you don't like unless dude goes out of his way to actually spam the general? You're not achieving anything good with your spergouts that's for sure.

>>8026154
>flawlessly copy artist styles for 1girling
plenty of styles are a bit borked on nai so you usually have to cope by mixing other stabilizing styles
t. naikek

>>8026103
Bluvoll here, >>8025254 anon clearing some misconceptions about the Score tags helps a whooole lot when prompting (I do have severe skill issue here), and yeah, using score tags in training might help, but more often than not it's actually pretty bad, you have to overbake it, and fight with the inherent style of all the score tags.

>>8026161
what's behind the emoji anon :)

>>8025254
>Either way that part of the discussion is a bit moot in this case since all the artists this guy does are incredibly boring.
Holy fucking shit, the nerve on you, man. You really are an insufferable cocksucker.

>>8026164
been pointed out many times he's terminally autistic, if you see a wall of schizo text and a mega link - ignore

>>8026155
>You're not achieving anything good with your spergouts that's for sure.
I used to post images here frequently, but as the general became more and more disgusting I kinda shifted towards negative (You)s. It's more fun and fits the spirit of this place. I post images in a couple other places now.

>>8026173
Yeah I don't really post pics here myself.

>>8026152
No, the "groid spammer"
Not anyone who posts a dark skinned male, just that motherfucker in particular (who may also be a bot given post habits)

>>8026173
Sorry for your mental illness.

>>8026210
wat? he never gives (you)s afaik, he just copypastes previous posts

Why so many pixiv / patreon dudes use NovelAI? Not doing it locally . It's not even that hard

>>8026219
Computers are expensive, and it's easy enough to get enough from patreon to support the NAI sub so it's just free money

>>8026219
Anon, that game consists of milking retards while doing as little work as possible.
Now: pay 25 bucks for someone to spoonfeed you something viable off the bat (which, as long as you're milking you'll make back anyway)
vs.
AI ready GPU (hundreds of dollars investment)
Learning how to set it up
Getting the Loras
Learning about models
Downloading everything
Setting up everything
Reading about everything
Experimenting with everything

You look at the AI Patreons out there and tell me they're in it for the love of tinkering and excellence.

>>8026219
>>8026232
Also quality is irrelevant, If the people buying it knew or gave a shit about quality, or knew of alternatives, they wouldn't be paying for someone else's AI slop. That kind of retard is easy to please.

>>8026138
Saber could actually protect herself unlike those two

Ayoo why did jordiG name it capgui and not Nocapgui? he mad sus frfr ong

>>8026247
bro on unc status or sum fr :pray: :sob:

>>8026219
There are no good anime models available locally. Best AI pixiv pics are NAI/Niji and it will be that way till we get a competent model that has a proper anime style. At least we have someone moving in the right direction with Arti and there are several others cooking that I won't mention for now. Pony looks like western artist's attempt of anime and no amount of loras can salvage that.
Most people don't really care about local advantages i.e. niche fetishes and complex sex scenes(unless you actually want to go for niche audience, that can bring pretty well-paying people if you stick to it), they really are okay with 1girl standing of their fav waifu in a pleasant style and simple povs,

>>8026252
I've tried both and honestly can't tell which is better. XYs of styles are pretty much random noise.

is there no way to rip out all the undesirable stuff in pony and then merge it with actually good things?

>>8026261
> rip out all the undesirable stuff
Which is?

>>8026147
newfag
>Basically, stop defending the bad actor, retard
the catposter isn't the spammer, moron

>>8026263
all the gpo ces pony clopping furry /aco/ trash
surely that would leave plenty of space within the 6gb of the model

Holy shit, I can't believe this, just found a seed that can create all the facial expressions with same face using xyz plot.

>>8026265
https://civitai.com/models/468063
Just uploaded it

>>8026257
can I bother you for a box of this beaut?

>>8026269
Unfortunately more diverse training data creates better outputs. Even if you could cut it out, it would only make things worse.

>>8026269
It's kinda like trying to do a brain surgery to make yourself forget that one favorite movie to be able to enjoy it again "for the first time". But forget only that movie and nothing else. Nobody knows where the fuck to cut. Same with neural networks.

>>8026279
>more diverse training data creates better outputs
as a user I noticed that
but surely you can have a diverse training data without compromising on quality?

>>8026219
local looks like shit. nobody can compete with NAI's million dollar cluster.

>>8026279
diverse doesn't have to mean ponies and furries, it could just be more anime
hooves, fur, paws, scat and what not does nothing for anime hentai genning

>>8026283
kek true, it probably would just get lobotomized

>>8026275
Oh you're BesolloAI? Nice, I use your LoRAs all the time

>>8026287
>Patreonslop
>Good

You only hurt your case

>>8026285
>but surely you can have a diverse training data without compromising on quality?
Yes, with very rigorous tagging and dataset balancing. And not aliasing styles helps :)

Besollo I have a question, how do you do sex position concept LORAs, I ask cause I wanna do some esoteric kama sutra type shit but I dunno if the dataset exists, is you dataset just anime images or more?

Love me some good nai shilling. All the cascade stuff got boring

>>8026275
if you are Besollo, could I make a LoRA request of you?

Ive been trying to get elf ear pulling/ ear grab fellatio to work and I think it needs a LoRA.

>>8026301
both NAI and Cascade shilling is based
anything that isn't pony is good

>>8026301
they will delete all artist soon
NAIkeks will get btfo

>>8026305
based
they think I shill nai/arti/cascade but actually I just really fucking hate ponysloppa

>>8026302
Sounds fun, will be my next lora if I find enough images for the dataset

>>8026313
wooo yay, thanks. I'm looking forward to it.

>>8026261
There was a pony checkpoint with erased pony/cartoon/furry content with a special method iirc

I have to admit arti 1.0 isn't as good as ponyautism but I respect Euge for doing a decent attempt.<br>Arti 2.0 when??? I would really like to know

>>8026319
>>8026261
apart from being funny this is a waste of time given you can just opt to not prompt for it/put it in negatives

>>8026323
I don't remember, that's the issue
I remember it not being really good

The latent space on my stomach doesn't feels so good :(

>>8026325
There is some schizo here who calls everything that has the slightest bit of gradient/deviation in the linework not anime/western slop and /aco/

>>8026320
Euge is working on it, he is also planning to include gelbooru images and is aware of what went wrong.

>>8026339
Does he has some kind of discord server or sum shit like that where he uploads updates of the progress for his next iterations? I'm interested

{{{nilou (genshin impact)}}}, red hair, aqua eyes, blue skirt, veil, fake horns, s-4268460201.png

>>8026347
Pussy peek like that is just *cheffs kiss*

>>8026313
>>8026313
Could you make Nudist Beach Outfit lora? Civitai uploaded one got deleted

>>8026354
Not really my cup of tea, sorry

>>8026320
I have very high hopes for Arti 2.0. 1.0 is already a decent start and if 2.0 is just more of that same philosophy it will be god tier

>>8026326
double damn

>>8026339
is there anywhere he posts updates? I keep checking civitai because the only place I know him from

>>8026361
Fuck . Well thanks for uploading pilediver so. Don't delete it please like others

>>8026364
I've never deleted any of my loras, not planning to

>>8026363
>I have very high hopes for Arti 2.0. 1.0 is already a decent start and if 2.0 is just more of that same philosophy it will be god tier
given the model lineage of illustdiffusion, i dont think 2.0 will be a big jump

There will be no significant increase in local anime model performance until they movie away from the retarded dan/gelbooru dataset and add either natural language captions or custom sd optimized tags.

>>8026377
Where else would you get a large, annotated dataset of anime imagka8ktes?

need a 1girl dataset trained, any takers?

>>8026374
> i dont think 2.0 will be a big jump
Well it depends mainly about the hardware he's gonna use and how much images he will use, at 2.5M I'm pretty sure it could match pony, kinda
But I gotta be honest with you, boorus tagging is shit compared to e6 tags and I like the wide variety of concepts that e6 tags brings to a model

>>8026383
the ideal solution would be to build a tagging system specifically for this and tag the ENTIRE dataset with it. flowery prose isn't really ideal, though

>>8026383
Nowhere. We're fucked until either taggers improve or there is some massive community effort.

>>8026377
NLP beyond 1 short sentence sucks though. I'd rather have somebody run an autotagger on the images because human-made captions are inaccurate on the boorus

Anybody else get that bug where Adetailer puts the same face on everybody, even with [SEP] in between them?

>>8026377
why? NAI didnt do that and it looks vastly better than local models. even if you think pony has more coherent and better posing, the color grading and dynamic range of NAI is certainly something local is still painfully missing. you're trying to run before you even learn to crawl. magical language tags won't help at this stage when nobody can even figure out how to make XL not look like dull grey slop

>>8026390
Here's your massive community effort, bro
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiff<wbr>usion/comments/1cp77nd/45k_images_n<wbr>ow_in_the_danboorucleaned_dataset/

>>8026402
>Some pics are explicitly copyrighted and shouldnt be in it. Some have watermarks. Some have legally questionable subject matter. Some just frankly arent good
lmfao i forgot about this

>>8026388
>the ideal solution would be to build a tagging system specifically for this and tag the ENTIRE dataset with it.
I was literally thinking about this idea the other day, long NL captions are not that good for a model, we already know tags separated by commas works best with CLIP so the optimal way would just be creating a new, very detailed and specific tag system (like e6 but improved), where every action, color and image composition is correctly tagged, this could also be done to improve and fix character bleed

>>8026405
would be a massive undertaking but it'd ultimately give you the best quality dataset for image generation. as long as we rely on clip at least.

>>8026403
yeah that's the thing with community efforts, there will always be fags of all kinds
I think it's hilarious that he has been manually going through all kinds of loli shit
>Happy to say the "cleaned" dataset doesnt have any of that.
>Not happy that I had to see it to delete it.

>>8026407
fuck man, would it kill to not have some fag not work on these for once?

>>8026413
be the change you want to see, anon

Forge couple for ComfyUI, if anyone cares:
https://github.com/laksjdjf/attenti<wbr>on-couple-ComfyUI
It's pretty nice >>8026410

>>8026395
Just a Turbo mix
https://civitai.com/models/121215?m<wbr>odelVersionId=520650

>>8026413
We could always start our own. I'll happily tag some images while i wait during my 2min gen time.

>>8026402
>The images are a partial culling from the much larger archive of anime images at
https://huggingface.co/datasets/ani<wbr>melover/danbooru2022/commits/main/d<wbr>ata
meanwhile the collection
>Some images not download in the range:
>need gold account
>removed
>has one of ['furry', "realistic", "3d", "19xxs_(style)","retro_artstyle","s<wbr>creentones","pixel_art","magazine_s<wbr>can","scan"] tag.

so this shit goes through cleaning, and by cleaning the dude is just fucking deleting them lol
>The images in the "cleaned" dataset, are the ones that did NOT have:
>Signatures or watermarks
>Any other annoying text
>Low quality work
>Pedophilia

it's like taking a piece of shit and smearing more shit over it in order to clean it, astounding

>>8026401
style isn't everything if you want the ultimate model
I mean for booruslop yeah nai is almost perfect but ideal model would have dalle-level comprehension, and that is only achievable with thorough language caption (not achievable for local model-makers though)

>>8026402
exactly what would I expected from a redditor, kino

>>8026417
There's also this which is supposedly an easier to use version
https://github.com/Danand/ComfyUI-C<wbr>omfyCouple
Haven't tried either though

>>8026411
Can you gen her getting her fat ass plowed with that piledriver lora from earlier?

Some anime append dataset that is just screencaps would be nice, but i feel like any tagging effort is wasted until a better tagging standart is established.

Can NLP fans please transform the following to an NLP inference prompt? I'm really curious how it will look like and how long it takes until they find out how much they have to use different verb tenses and repetition which will just end up confusing a model so much it's better to just have plain captions instead.

>mikafen, makima \(chainsaw man\), chainsaw man, 1boy, 1girl, bed sheet, black necktie, blush, bottomless, breasts, breasts out, clothed sex, collarbone, collared shirt, cowgirl position, dress shirt, girl on top, hetero, large breasts, long sleeves, looking down, medium hair, necktie, nipples, on bed, open clothes, open mouth, open shirt, penis, pov, recording, red hair, ringed eyes, sex, shirt, sidelocks, solo focus, spread legs, squatting, squatting cowgirl position, stained clothes, steaming body, straddling, sweat, sweaty clothes, trembling, tripod, vaginal, video camera, wet, wet clothes, wet shirt, white shirt, yellow eyes

"the girl is wearing" "the girl is doing" "the girl is on top" "the girl's x is..." kek

>>8026428
It removed the need to make masks, by splitting the image cleanly into two. So I guess for literal couples.

>>8026436
Exactly. NLP sucks for anything that isn't "The girl watches a sunset with a monkey on her shoulder" and other goofy shit your aunt likes on Facebook

>>8026401
>how to make XL not look like dull grey slop
All you have to do is to change prediction type to v-prediction and retrain everything with ztsnr. Which is what cosxl is and it's exactly what NAI did to their model. Also Cascade doesn't have this issue.

>>8026440
Ah that might not be as useful then. Being able to set your own mask is definitely better

>>8026439
won't even click but let me guess, the guy touched/groomed a kid or edited real kids images and shared them and got caught and they're tying that to AI
did I get it right

>>8026439
>>8026446
>“Technology may change, but our commitment to protecting children will not,” said Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco. “The Justice Department will aggressively pursue those who produce and distribute child sexual abuse material—or CSAM—no matter how that material was created. Put simply, CSAM generated by AI is still CSAM, and we will hold accountable those who exploit AI to create obscene, abusive, and increasingly photorealistic images of children.”

>>8026436
You'd have to use visual LLM for it to be good, but here's the reworded prompt with llama3 70B.
>Please construct the visual description of the image based on the list of tags. Keep as much details as possible.
The scene depicts an intimate moment between two individuals, Mikufen and Makima from Chainsaw Man, in a passionate embrace. The setting appears to be a bedroom, with a messy bed sheet rumpled beneath them.

Makima, with her striking red hair and distinctive yellow eyes adorned with rings, sits astride Mikufen's lap, adopting a cowgirl position. Her face flushes with a deep blush as she looks downward at Mikufen, her lips parted slightly in ecstasy.

She wears a partially unbuttoned white dress shirt with long sleeves, now hanging loose around her torso, revealing her ample breasts. A few buttons are still fastened near the top, while others have been undone, exposing her chest. Her nipples are visible, glistening with dewy moisture. Sweat beads trickle down her skin, indicating intense passion.

Her black necktie lies loosely knotted around her collarbone, adding a touch of elegance amidst the fervent atmosphere. Stains mar her clothing, suggesting previous intimacy.

Meanwhile, Mikufen reclines below, his facial features obscured by Makima's form. His white shirt remains mostly open, showcasing his toned physique. His trousers appear disheveled, hinting that they were hastily removed during their lovemaking session.

A tripod-mounted video camera stands nearby, capturing this private encounter for posterity. Its presence adds an air of voyeurism, making the viewer feel like an unseen observer.

In the foreground, a portion of the bed sheet peeks into view, crumpled and tangled – evidence of the couple's frenzied activity. Beads of perspiration cling to both bodies, emphasizing the intensity of their union.

This snapshot captures a fleeting instant of raw desire, freezing time as these lovers surrender themselves to primal instincts.

>>8026455
>increasingly photorealistic images of children
So they don't care if it's not photorealistic
Anime-chads, we won!

>>8026455
retard
I was right
>used AI to produce thousands of illicit images of prepubescent minors, and even sent sexually explicit AI-generated images to a minor
>sent sexually explicit AI-generated images to a minor
>communicated with a 15-year-old boy
>used Instagram direct message to send the boy several GenAI images of minors

>>8026417
We had this for like a year which is why we were laughing at forgefags who thought it was new groundbreaking cutting edge technolofy

>>8026464
Mikufen is the fucking artist, anon. i know they like to self-insert but still...

>>8026464
now I'm imagining someone trying to write a fucking novel to get a single image, except it's sensitive and if you're bad at english and writing the output will degrade accordingly

>>8026473
It would be the ultimate filter

>>8026467
Aw man how did I miss it then? I remember making shit with latent couple even back in November, it was awful.

>>8026471
>>8026464
And it's actually Mikafen so both me and the LLM are dumb

>>8026471
Then make sure to feed that info to the LLM, retard. Simple mistakes like that aren't a problem.
>>8026473
This is why I said you have to use visual LLM and provide the image.

Would be cool is we had a 3d interface to solve all the position troubles. kinda like a 3d mindmap where you move tags together and around

>>8026423
yeah but this would better benefit from a base model trained on those captions in the first place like dall-e. throwing 4 million 'natural language' captioned hentai images on top of a model trained on 6 billion images of laion-slop blog advertisements isn't enough to get it to behave like dall-e. especially when you consider local captioners are far behind GPT4-V, and NSFW captioners even more so. SD3's architecture with cogvlm captions vastly underperform when it comes to interactions between characters compared to dall-e. i do agree that there are major captioning improvements needed for the 'ultimate model', but my vision has always been to realistically improve the attainable stuff first like datasets before jumping into the theoretical
>>8026444
so why hasn't any local model manages to actually do this for XL? all of them still have dynamic range issues. i'm aware of cascade not having this issue, but we have at least 4 different XL 1girl tunes that still can't generate a wide range of color. people are getting ahead of themselves with this captioning crap when tuners still don't even know the proper fucking settings to use for training.

>>8026499
Also here's the output with different prompt
>Please construct the visual description of the image based on the list of tags. Keep as much details as possible, use simple and commonly known words. Focus on the composition and actual content of the image, instead of coming up with roundabout ways to describe it
The image depicts an intimate scene between two individuals, Mikufen (the boy) and Makima (the girl) from Chainsaw Man series. Makima sits astride Mikufen, who lies on his back on a bed, with her legs spread wide apart. She wears a crumpled, sweat-stained white dress shirt that's partially unbuttoned, revealing her large breasts. Her bright red hair falls around her face, which displays a mix of emotions, including a subtle blush. Her gaze looks downward at Mikufen, whose facial expression cannot be seen clearly due to the angle. He has an erection visible through his opened pants. His upper body remains mostly hidden beneath Makima's form. A video camera positioned on a nearby tripod records their encounter. The atmosphere appears steamy, with both participants showing signs of sweating profusely – evident from their drenched clothing. In this provocative pose, Makima takes control, sitting in a "cowgirl" position while maintaining eye contact with someone outside the frame (perhaps the viewer). This intense moment captures a private, passionate exchange between these characters.
>Make a very short and dense summary.
Intimate scene: Makima straddles Mikufen on a bed, amidst passion-filled chaos, with a video camera capturing the moment.

>>8026504
Closest thing to this is exporting openpose and depth map from Blender, for use with controlnets.

Honestly that should work pretty well. But it's a lot of work for one pic.

>>8026516
>>>8026444#
>so why hasn't any local model manages to actually do this for XL? all of them still have dynamic range issues. i'm aware of cascade not having this issue, but we have at least 4 different XL 1girl tunes that still can't generate a wide range of color
wdxl is training on cosxl (inb4 wdxl lmao)
cosxl was released only recently

>>8026521
You'd still get prompt bleeding with this and regional prompting can only do 2d

>>8026523
When you have a depth controlnet telling you if an object in the region is close or far away, that's as good as having 3D.

>>8026522
Oh right, cosXL can do that

Quick!! Somebody tell Euge to finetune on cosXL instead

>>8026516
Don't listen to v-prediction anon. Fluff used v-prediction and that one was browner than pony. Too much brown fur is the issue.

>>8026264
Thankfully he didn't get the true heroine taiga fujimaru yet

>>8026522
i'm not fully sold on cosXL versus just training right on regular XL like NAI did. it could work but i guess we just have to wait to see if any models made with it are better than base XL. either way, my original point was that local bakers still have a lot of stuff to improve before jumping into experimental captioning. we've hardly hit the technological brick wall with local models. as NAI said, local bakers just have a skill issue >>8021003

>>8026512
cool but fuck off with namefagging

>>8026575
Proof? Show your tranny clitty.

>>8026527
Annon, are you using WebUI Forge or the WebUi AUTOMATIC1111

>>8026552
>just training right on regular XL like NAI did
Before "actual anime training" they converted the regular SDXL into SDXL with v-prediction, i.e. homegrown cosxl, all on their own.

>>8026552
Do they though? NAI has serious problems with backgrounds and melty features, I have no idea why we treat these guys as the gold standard honestly.

>>8026603
You become more based by the day gato anon

>>8026611
may i introduce you to the idea of astroturfing/guerilla/grassroots marketing

>>8025938
Holy shit I love Beidou, do you have a ZIP?

>>8026611
>problems with backgrounds
it can do backgrounds just fine, it has a problem with not being able to do photorealism well so there's no density and the extremely detailed look like 1.5 has

>melty features
it's an artist issue but yeah it's annoying, some artists come out looking fried a shit

>>8026611
>serious problems with backgrounds
Dataset issue. What sort of backgrounds do you see on booru usually?
>melty features
That one is avoidable but yeah it is annoying especially with some artist tags.
NAI is clearly an overfit model but it's still aesthetically better than local. Niji is considerably better and cleaner than nai but almost unusable due to censorship sadly.

>>8026621
May I introduce you to the idea of meds?

>>8026611
I guess because it does anime styles effortlessly, not having to wrangle a bunch of prompts and loras. And its prompt comprehension and anatomy are far above Animagine, which is going for the same appeal.

But the other AI threads don't really care about NAI. /d/ sure doesn't since every tag with "excessive" in it works better on Pony. /aco/ doesn't mind the style bias of score tags, other than it makes faces look same-y. Half of /e/ is still stuck on AOM mixes.

>>8026534
>Too much brown fur is the issue
This is not wrong, but this is not what vpred is supposed to fix. Fluffyrock dudes just threw furry dataset onto zerodiffusion (vpred finetune of 1.5) without balancing it in any way (which is exactly what jordach tries to do with cascade kek), and this is what lead to brown sepia. Ponyfag balanced the dataset, but he intentionally baked sepia into the score tags.
>>8026611
>NAI has serious problems with backgrounds and melty features
This actually may be the issue of poor conversion to v-prediction. Since they didn't have access to original SDXL data subset, they had to make their own. Which leads to many things being forgotten and/or not understood correctly by unet since they weren't present in NAI's conversion dataset.

>>8026627
the midjourney models are monstrously good at unique designs, its crazy how far we've fallen. even "NAI level" is nothing considering how awful XL is in comparison.
the hands on niji are probably the worst out of any of them though, but the images still look really cool

Now I get it. The thing about the cluster it's not how fast you can train a single model, but how fast you can do trial an error of the same dataset you're finetuning, so you find a good spot/good settings for the model
That would explain a lot about local's current state

A cluster really feels like cheating then

>>8026638
>cluster it's not how fast you can train a single model, but how fast you can do trial an error of the same dataset you're finetuning
Of course. You can even compare that to local genning. Waiting 5-10 minutes for an ideal pic would not be a big deal, but the issue with slow GPUs is that you're not gonna get the perfect gen right away, you have to experiment and go through shitty ones to get something decent before that.

localbros... we never stood a chance, do we...?

>>8026644
as long as corpos keep all the good shit for themselves, nope

>>8026644
I'm not convinced it's a competition. We have some nice stuff on local, and the option of paying for NAI stays open if you want it.

SD3 will fix everything and it'll actually come out in 10 business days

>>8026611
No one does, it's either trolling or pure cope to justify their poor spending habits. (and shills)

NAI is extremely mid and markedly inferior when it comes to anatomy and composition.
What its got going for it is: it's good at flat styles. much like pony is good at shaded styles.

So when it comes to style they're both weak at doing each other's natural style.
The difference is you can tweak LOCAL however you want (because it's not a fucking model unlike NAI, it just means you host any damn model you fucking want whenever you want it however you want it). On the other hand if you wanna tweak NAI you can go die.

This is why NAI is garbage vs Local, and no amount of shilling, copiumposts and paypiggy whining will change that.

>>8026644
Pony is amazing for porn, and you can still carve some nice styles out of it, even if it takes a lot of effort and shitmixing that inhibits the prompts.
It could have been MUCH worse. For all the shit astracuck gets, he literally saved local with horsefucker.

>>8026648
>I'm not convinced it's a competition. We have some nice stuff on local, and the option of paying for NAI stays open if you want it.
How do I find NAI? I saw NovelAI but that's for writing stories

>>8026664
that's it
don't ask my why they're packaged into one product, or why there's zero marketing for the anime model

>NAI is extremely mid
ZOOM ZOOOOMMMM
chugga chugga

>nai composition
>inferior
kek not even trying

>>8026658
If you add uncensored to your prompt in img2img or inpainting, you'll remove the censor

>>8026639
Does the cat have nipple piercings for real or do you add those?

>>8026671
Tomorrow it will begin to bake, could you calm down for once

>>8026667
It is inferior for hardcore pornography scenes, it literally breaks down much more often compared to pony if you try to prompt somewhat complex scenarios. I'm saying that as a naikek. In context of a pornography board, NAI is certainly worse.

>>8026665
Which sits about halfway between IPadapter and Lora.

That reminds me, did anyone try the new IPAdapter model that's supposedly trained on anime?

>>8026677
Paperspace, as well as colab and vast (if you dont proompt for days uninterrupted) is cheaper than NAI. Your argument literally doesn't fucking work.

>>8026673
She's not a lora character, just a series of prompts that happen to very reliably produce the same girl

>>8026645
Catbox is down. If that helps, using Yotsugi Ononoki (Monogatari) lora from civit.

>>8026629
thanks for always anon, any requests for her?

>>8026673
Im not 100% sure what you mean but I just add nipple piercings to the prompt.

>>8026684
yeah? it literally doesn't work? my argument has a job?
Buy a GPU

>>8026611
Because everyone should, saying otherwise is either trolling or pure cope to justify their poor prompting (and training) skills.

Local is extremely mid and markedly inferior when it comes to anatomy and composition.
What its got going for it is: it's good at /aco/ much like NAI is good at anime.

So when it comes to style they're both weak at doing each other's natural style.
The difference is you can prompt weeb shit with NAI however you want (because it's not a fucking retard western finetune unlike Pony, it just means you prompt any damn anime you fucking want whenever you want it however you want it). On the other hand if you wanna prompt weeb shit with Pony you can go die.

This is why Local is garbage vs NAI, and no amount of shilling, copiumposts and horsefucker whining will change that.

>>8026693
You should have spent your money on meds instead of a GPU.

>>8026694
You had to change composition for -variety of styles-, you dumb fucking animal. You had ONE job.

>>8026652
>NAI is extremely mid and markedly inferior when it comes to anatomy and composition.
It really is not

>>8026679
As someone who is currently unsubbed, you're right. NAI is very aesthetic and all that, but it's a fucking pain in the ass to get simple concepts such as "ball licking" for example. I can get a gen right at least 50% of the time with pony, and with NAI? After 20 gens I could be barely able to get one right. e6 database and tags it's just great when it comes to concept knowledge and pony proves that. I'm not saying that pony is great either, it sucks ass too, but it clearly shows what a wider knowledge of tags can do. My opinion is that western, furry, anime and every other 2d subtype of porn shouldn't be finetuned apart, because if a model is correctly tagged and in proper balance, they all together enhance every aspect of the model. They compliment eachother.

>>8026676
Jordach said he found some more latents he has to cache. training start date has been pushed back by 10 business days

>>8026696
Shucks, well, at least I still have a GPU.
You have no money and no GPU lmao rentoid.
You gen from a fucking cloud faggot, don't talk to me.

>>8026703
Real, pony is so much better at getting concepts correct.

>>8026704
Turns out all the latents he cached turned into the famous black squares.

>>8026652
You can put a toddler in front of keyboard with open NAI website, a minute later very nice and serviceable image will come out.
NAI has nailed down out of the box aesthetic appeal and consistency. Each and every gen is good in their own right, unlike local.
Yes local offers more flexibility, but sometimes one wants to just chill, instead of prompting XYZ grid for tenth time this week.

>>8026704
>>8026708
Went to furry discord just after you said that and the only most recent thing I see about the model is this

Schizo trolls

>>8026689
Can I have her Lora Anon? want to lewd her locally.

>>8026703
That's my idea too NAI had aesthetic down, pony has concepts and comp down if we could somehow find a model that's in the middle ground between the we'd be cooming to the bank.

>>8026689
>thanks for always anon, any requests for her?
A pose like this, where she's presenting her pussy as an uncensored close-up

>>8026710
>Went to furry discord
You should have really stayed there.

>>8026709
I am not gonna lie seeing some crap people put out using NAI, it's definitely not as easy as you make it seem.

>>8026712
>That's my idea too NAI had aesthetic down, pony has concepts and comp down if we could somehow find a model that's in the middle ground between the we'd be cooming to the bank.
That's why I'm huffing copium for cascade. Although I'm prepared for it to underdeliver.

HAPPY TUESDAY YOU FUCKING GOONERS<br>Show me what you're working on right now!

>>8026709
yta, and I agree with what you said.
Let me put it another way:
Local has more potential because it has more options.
Nai has terrific ease of use.

Fair?

>>8026622
>do you have a ZIP?
Nah, that'll require for me to sort hundreds of pictures and pick the best ones. Too much of a trouble.

>>8026712
Everything indicates that cascade is our best bet, desu.

>>8026709
pony isn't particularly hard to prompt with either if you are aiming for smut, it's actually easier to do with pony. "complexity" starts when you're having to deal with loras, sorting through them, baking, checking all that shit. I don't want to bother with baking so I have to rely on others for loras and it can be really annoying at times. I guess the advantage here that it creates more sense of a community due to the scarce nature of competent loras.

>>8026721
fair.

>>8026716
they just forget to use built-in upscale.

I don't really know anything about how NAI works but is there something preventing it from adding to the comprehension it's lacking?

>>8026710
LATENTS could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this latent space before."
"There could be LATENTS anywhere." The cool air from the noctua fan felt good against his open fursuit. "I HATE LATENTS" he thought.

Crystal castles reverberated his entire pc, making it pulsate even as the $9 monster circulated through his weak scrawny veins and washed away his (merited) fear of LATENTS before training.

"With a 4060, you can train anything you want" he said to himself, out loud.

>>8026736
Better tagged dataset. Might be why they're working on a furry model now, to learn how e621 data works.

>>8026736
dataset
danbooru doesn't have enough data for some concepts, its tagging system is also worse compared to furries. literally the best thing nai could do is expanding dataset with furryshit without polluting the style.

>>8026703
you're right with the furry and aco databases pony has nai beat in terms of sex concepts and sex anatomy, although on nai I noticed your results will vary extremely depending on what artists you use, some artists will be awful at certain concepts, plus inpainting seems to fix images that almost got it in terms of what you prompted more reliably vs generating entirely new image again, it feels to me like the knowledge for a lot of concepts is there but squeezing it out of it is a pain

>My opinion is that western, furry, anime and every other 2d subtype of porn shouldn't be finetuned apart, because if a model is correctly tagged and in proper balance, they all together enhance every aspect of the model. They compliment eachother.
I totally agree with that

>>8026729
>>8026716
No, no.
We don't de-escalate here
What the fuck are you doing agreeing with each other?
Sepia and fried, not love and kind, ok?

00369-3370100999-(by yd _orange maru__1.2) _lora_sdxl_yd_v1_1_ tenebrism, (mordred _(fate_),_0.8) denim shorts, medium breasts, pasties, blonde.png

>>8026711
nta but >>8026685
just grab any one of her catboxes like >>8025354

>>8026737
fuck gens, this is what I come to /hdg/ for

Has it ever happened to you that you've been edging for more than 15 or 30 minutes just fine but as soon as you see a mere glance of something you really like it becomes really really hard to hold yourself correctly?
This happens when I jerk off to normal porn then a single hot pic of my wife crosses my sight
I cum every time, damn

>>8026719
https://files.catbox.moe/ovbkhp.png<wbr>
only this, gonna save some good loras later

>>8026711
you can grab her from the catbox the anon pointed out in the reply to you. she doesnt have a lora

>>8026714

>>8026768
Where is her urethra
I cannot fap to it like this man

I haven't generated in a long while. I'm still on a9fed7

>>8026627
Didn't Animagine train on Danbooru? It has no background issues.

>>8026439
>He then allegedly communicated with a 15-year-old boy
PFFTTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<wbr>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH<wbr>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<wbr>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anyway, still prompting my cunny.

>>8026792
Animagine also trained on 1.5 outputs because it didn't want to lose the glossy look. That's still their default when you don't prompt a style.

>>8026644
the writing was on the wall with the NAI leak. how much local was kickstarted by that single leak and how everyone was relying on it for over a year spells out all you need to know. local will constantly be relying on handouts. the "local community" has zero relevance and i'm tired of sd jeets bringing it up as if their civitai junk can salvage these dogshit models. the models still have foundational issues and local still has to gather around and pray to Emad like a fucking cargo cult because nobody has the resources to train their own. it's either waiting for the next shitware SAI model or playing with extremely undertrained budget research models like pixart.
this isn't an insult to local or a mocking post about how cloudshit is epic. i'm merely stating the unfortunate reality of how AI currently works and the inescapable financial requirements needed to actually make competitive models. i have zero reason not to doom about this. local hardware is not improving and there are active movements to sabotage local training capabilities. there would be no market for $50k enterprise cards if consumer cards were just as good for 1/30 of the price. never again will a local model be ahead of corposhit because the resources simply aren't there. stable diffusion just so happened to catch everyone with their pants down with their 1.4 release which destroyed everything else at the time. it was a fluke, a flash in the pan, lightning in a bottle. since then everyone else surpassed them and both RunwayML and SAI have shifted away from local models.

i want local to be good, i want to be able to access tons of characters and styles and train whatever i want on a state-of-the-art model that has advanced stylistic and compositional comprehension running on a 5090 but it's just not going to happen in this timeline.

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, {{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alternate s-932110838.png

>>8026815
That's a lot of text
I didn't read it

>>8026535
Did you make this with regional prompting? I've been having trouble with getting it to work for 2girl/ffm scenarios

>>8026815
Your amazing corporate dalle gen that is so far ahead of everything else, sir

>wake up
>open forge
>monkey_man,(gpo,ces:1.3)
>"HAHAAHAHAHAH NAI COULD NEVER"

>>8026829
I was having issues too until I realized I needed to put the girls and pose in the same brackets near the beginning. it was just straight prompting on nai. if you drop the image into the inspect page you can see my full prompt
https://novelai.net/inspect

>>8026838
at least is free
>b-but your PC!!!
lol

>>8026681
Yeah it seems pretty cool
https://civitai.com/models/302691/i<wbr>p-adapter-anime-fine-tune

Jews are playing stupid games again, guess I have to generate my own porn. Is autismmix still the go to model?

>>8026862
Sorry for hands, I am not in the mood to fix it today.

>training a model to detect local vs nai
is this a good noob project?

i did some more tests with a new dataset that's entirely random padded training images. this worked even more like how i thought it would.
basically there's there's an issue you can run into where the network learns that certain features in the image go in certain areas of the image, rather than learning that these features correspond to one another. so it will try to stretch these features out when you adjust the aspect ratio in order to put them in the area where the AI thinks they should go.
you can resolve this by padding training images so that the original training image is randomly placed/scaled and then adding attention masks to the padded pixels so that the network will ignore them. you should probably do this to add a random distribution of images to every single bucket.
picrel, random padding nia maintains her proportions much more consistently when placed in landscape image compositions vs. the dataset that used cropped and centered training images
someone please figure out how to do this using a method that pads the training images randomly to correspond to sdxl training dimensions thanks in advance

I am a retarded namefag

>>8026872
very interesting,
yeah it probably helps to give the AI some sense of space and how it correlates to character features when a wide shot is prompted vs. up close images.

Anonymous

>>8025691
There is a lora on civit, usually get better fingers when using clenched fists

I am a retarded namefag please rape my face

>>8026872
also remember that the AI is very dumb when it comes to stuff like character features always being in view, stuff like that will burn in if you just have a dataset of those closely cropped images. So yeah giving it wide open shots might help it vs just up close images.

>>8026879
it's not just a wide shot improvement, this helps with every aspect ratio that i've tried.
https://files.catbox.moe/z73plj.jpg<wbr>
even at 832:1216 it was still doing the weird tail coat shit and making her stumpy a lot more frequently

>>8026722
what styles/artists are in this?

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, 1boy,{{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alte s-519674353.png

>playing with a1111 trying to run cosxl
>modifying loaded config doesn't change a single thing
>modifying default sigmas doesn't change a thing
>look at the actual code
>"""this adds a bunch of parameters to make SDXL model look a bit more like SD1.5 to the rest of the codebase."""
>it hardcodes SDXL model loading as if it was 1.5 model, completely unaware of EDMScaling
>it accesses alphas_cumprod class variable everywhere, relying on LegacyDDPMDiscretization and making it impossible to switch to EDMDiscretization, breaking the interface
i think i'm done
a1111 is indeed garbage

>>8026768
Ugh oh my god holy fuck this is so good thank you

>>8026932
>3456x2304
>amazing style
>all the fingers
>perfect face
Are you a pro under anon or something? This is unreal.

>>8026936
Eh? No, it's just a regular raw gen with upscaler.

How do you make forge not load any models on startup? I want to have it running in the background to be available at a moment's notice and for NAI without it hogging up all my VRAM and a huge chunk of my RAM. A1111's --skip-load-model-at-start doesn't work, it still loads the last model on startup.

>>8026936
>all the fingers
based blind anon

>>8026954
you could try feeding it a dummy file, just make an empty .txt notepad and rename it to something like empty.safetensors, idk how itd work though.

>>8026958
>ValueError: Error while deserializing header: HeaderTooSmall
:(

>>8026774
its giving me nothing but problems, accept this speculum insertion as replacement in the meantime. It also kinda tried my style LoRA too.

All the gens in here are dogshit. What happened to this place?

>pony can't do piggyback
>can't even do back-to-back
I don't want to train a fucking concept lora just to gen one image.

>>8026983
everyone left because due to shitposting

>>8026989
This one is actually pretty good. Nice work anon.

>>8026985
based retard anon. even knows the word to look up and can't do it.

If you tell me to learn how to inpaint one more fucking time I'm going to lose it
I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GENERATE PRO LEVEL ART WITHOUT INPAINTING
Fucking ai nerds need to fix their shit
ITS NOT A SKILL ISSUE
ITS A DEVELOPER ISSUE

>>8027007
lmaoooooo so trveee bruuuuuhhhhhhhhh
go tell dem nerds queen!

Is this "inpaint" person with us in the room right now?

>>8027007
yeah don't worry man! I'm on it!

>>8027007
Unironically this is completely possible for any future models using good settings and a good dataset
But, well... You know... :(

inpainter bros. how do you keep your gens from looking like a frankenstein?

>>8027023
Smooth in PS or I2I at the end.

>>8027023
I don't inpaint. I just set my stuff to generate forever and hope for the best

>>8027027
not its not, also check this 0

/hdg/ ran out of gens

it's over sisters

>>8027033
the shitters chased them all away
now we're worse than /sdg/
excited for avatarfags to arrive in the next month

>>8027032
Cunnies with fat asses and thick thighs are very based and whoever is against it's clearly a certified faggot

>>8027040
>excited for avatarfags to arrive in the next month
What if spammer was actually an avatarfag?

>>8027040
anon theres 3 avatarfags in the last 50 posts.
It's true though I don't post gens here anymore because of trolls and the jannies letting the trolls troll.

>>8027040
feel lik this place bounced back a bit, it aint the worst rn

>>8027052
nah, you dont know real avatarfags
go to ai threads on any other board; genuinely shocked it doesn't happen here

>>8027052
Literally false avatarfags. YOU don't really now what a TRUE hell of avatarfag is. Go take your meds.

I'm not posting anymore because of the pedos

Im Not Posting Until The Erm... Legally Questionable Subject Matter... Is Gone...

>>8027023
inpaint at base resolution and upscale after

>>8027060
But their gens are generally good, wdym

>>8027060
People can't get banned because someone else posts content that's against the rules, this isn't discord

>>8027032
amazing
I can't stop genning this girl myself

>>8027045
good taste

>>8027060
You are posting every day except for Saturday, wtf do you mean?

>>8027056
If you attach an avatar to your post, you're an avatarfag. No, not all of them are as bad as d*b*. The avatarfags here don't suck each other off or go on about their day but they're still fags.
They're also in on the trolling in some form or they too would have stopped posting.

{{{artist_asanagi}}}, artist_nyantcha, 1girl, pregnant, {{{{{{au ra}}}}}}, {{{{{ s-1982015033.png

>>8027078
holy meds, you dont know what an avatarfag is at all

>>8027065
>anime
>legally questionable
In what part of the world?

>>8027078
I can't tell if you're a newfag or a schizoid

>>8027049
here bro, you can have another

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, 1boy,{{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alte s-1435900837.png

>>8027088
anon how much anlas have you spent on your wife

>>8027088
its been a while since I felt like licking my screen, thanks

>>8027080
alright now size his cock down to the size of a pencil for me

>>8027089
she's slurpin too

>>8027092
genuinely too much, i almost regret realizing how much better wallpaper res is but, at the same time i dont really spend my money on anything else anyway

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, 1boy, {{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alt s-343497360.png

pony slop? check
vaguely human? check
https://files.catbox.moe/npl5ot.png<wbr>

>>8027104
anon can you make her do a backflip

>upload my pics to rule34\
>people keep inserting character tags on the nondescript males
>pov but the striped shirt gets them tagged as elios from pokemon
>green haired girl pic bleeds the male's hair as green, tagged as deku despite looking nothing like him
>males completely void of character traits or clothing tagged as FNF boyfriend
i dont care enough to retag them but why lmao

>>8027108
that kinda sounds like intentional vandalism, people can't be this retarded

>>8027108
i need to see one of the gens for context

>>8027108
someone went through and tagged every single image of a xenoblade character with their head canon version of their full name, that website is shit
but also lol uploading your own pics to r34

interlocked fingers is damn near impossible, but I liked this one

>>8027112
>tagged every single image of a xenoblade character with their head canon version of their full name
what the fuck, yeah place is full of unfettered autism.

Is there a specific tag\tags to get such cute belly bag as on picrelated?

>>8027114
>interlocked fingers is damn near impossible, but I liked this one
Yeah, wanted to hang myself trying to get good interlocked fingers. It probably needs both depth and canny controlnet to work.

>>8027119
Uploaded wrong version of pic, fuck. Sorry.
But also thanks

>>8027122
Stomach can be flat, right? I need specifically belly bag often present on hags.But going to try. Thanks.

>>8027112
i hate the people who use the site but i can't deny how useful it is for spread
i started putting a small watermark in the corner only for the versions i upload to R34 and whenever it gets crossposted ANYWHERE else it's always the watermarked one

>>8027120
I think in this case the least amount of work is to actually draw them in manually.

>>8027114
>>8027120
really? even with inpainting?

>>8027121
Giantess is a trash people's fetish, I said with a posed look

>>8027126
it means that there's divergence to data it can reduce, so if you average it over long periods it starts making some sense

>>8027123
Stomach or belly + from below generally tends to do that composition you want

>>8027129
I tried it a little bit, granted I suck at inpainting and I was getting frustrated with it.

>>8027133
yeah i know how losses work, but you should only really look at the graphs when you start noticing abnormalities in your image. graph go down does not mean image gets better

>>8027120
>>8027114
i happened to get a decent one through inpainting and if i go to do another pic with interlocked fingers i'll probably just edit it in and inpaint to patch the seams
feel free to use it as well if you want idc

>>8027125
why do you give a shit about spread
>>8027124
loss only reflects the quality of the lora when it jumps up to 1

>>8027121
I find putting muscular female in the negatives also gets me decent meat on women by default

>>8027140
>why do you give a shit about spread
because now people are paying me money to make pics for them

>>8027141
adding to this anon's advice, fat and obese in negs if your waifu comes out cow mode.

>>8027138
I'm looking at it because of that
the polynomial runs I had are more spastic than cosine with restarts runs
https://files.catbox.moe/8gdd8w.png<wbr>

>>8027138
Yeah specially when training using a model so incredibly unpredictable and fucked such as pony
>>8027133
Why don't you just do a run with validation loss?

>>8027151
>validation loss
I don't believe it's in kohya (yet?)

>>8027168
I used to be a cosine with restarts slowcook (12k+ steps, about 10 repeats) enjoyer
but I don't think pony would like that much

>>8027160
You can use it with a fork of it. There's also a pr for it on sd-scripts iirc

all these miqo gens are the reason why i check this every day lol. great stuff.

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, {{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alternate s-3901471141.png

nsfw, 1girl, anya (spy x family),1,2,[[fizrotart]], dino (dinoartforame), houkis s-2218645382.png

>>8027190
here you go bro
https://files.catbox.moe/qr7poh.png<wbr>

>>8027210
Pretty sure there's only ever been one vae for XL.

Belly bags are ultra cute. Thank you anons.

>>8027173
anything cosine is merely a gimmick to try and "settle" output stability when you don't actually have a config tuned correctly.
loss itself, as a number, is meaningless. Peaks and valleys on a loss chart can correlate to the fitment process but that's about it.
https://files.catbox.moe/vlykv9.png<wbr>
corresponding graphs https://files.catbox.moe/dsylxf.png<wbr>
(for refence this is at batch 16)

>>8027139
Thanks I dont really understand what im supposed to do with this image to inpaint it in, I tried a little bit more and I got something better.

Still a little fucked up

How do you get a less generic style while keeping prompt/anatomy accuracy? I tried a few LORAs, but they were frying my gens.

>>8027259
This is a pretty good style already

>>8027259
Your style is nice and distinct

>>8027272
Does anyone post in this thread with that style?

>>8027252
you manually edit it in with an image editing program dummy

>>8027259
I cummed on your style twice so now you can't change it or I will be angy >:(

>>8027276
>>8027280
Your style is nice and distinct

>>8027259
you cant which is why every local gen looks the exact same with the same line thickness and style. even worse if you use autism mix as it completely filters out pony style loras

>>8026281
partially visible pussy is hotter than actual pussy wtf

>>8027293
I'll tell you one better. Lingerie is hotter than nudity. Gen lingerie NOW.

>>8027299
not a fan of your cat but this is funny

> someone disagrees with me?
> they must be retarded

>>8025653
thanks i can try genning something for u if u want

>>8027312
This but unironically. People with different opinions must be retarded, because mine is the only correct one. Mom said so.

>>8027327
anon, unironically, you might want to check out /b/, there's a lot of them

Haha look the pedo says pedophilia is based, that must make it true

>>8027334
Just went there

It was all random disgusting shit and 1% good looking cunny, unsurprisingly

>>8027338
last i checked it was 99% 3dpd gens

>>8027334
>First pic is a 3dpd blacked gen of Miley cyrus
"Unironically" sure

I'm an oldf*g (been here since the golden age of NAI version 3 posting) and I hate l*li.

> have magical box that can create any image
> choose to gen hags instead of cunny
why?

>Wasn't even here for a height of the 1.5 shitmix days

Don't worry bro, Cascade will be able to generate all the legally questionable age-looking characters you want, since it's main tag it's not pruned :)

1girl, {{amazing quality}}, {{shuten douji (halloween caster) (fate), alternate s-4121865545.png

>>8027357
Honestly this gen btfo everything I've seen on /b/ today, they're just pathetic

>looking through old stuff
>found an old berrymix gen
the colors, the rendering, the background, the artistry... i think this will be my schizo transition moment i'm sorry to say but i just think it looks better than the recent stuff. it's been so long that i forgot what the pre-AOMslop mix era looked like. i'm about to cry.. what the FUCK went so wrong???

>>8027363
sovl...
>what the FUCK went so wrong???
We blindly trusted pony, that's all

>>8027349
The older I get, the hotter they get. But only in 2D.

>>8027363
We peaked at early mixes. It's all downhill from there.

>have magical board where loli is allowed
>choose to post on /h/ instead
why?

>>8027363
remember when jeets said "today is the worst ai will ever be" as if things would only get better. jeets ruined ai. why couldn't we just have this but higher resolution and with better comprehension?

>>8027377
no one wants to be in a thread full of 3dpd garbage

>>8027377
Because that "magical" board it's filled with true avatarfags and everyone posts anything but Loli, and the very few Loli posts are mid at best
Whereas here people sometimes post SFW and /e/ but literally no one complains because they're often nice and it isn't nearly as fucking horrible as seeing 3dpd artifacted gens every 5 pics

I invite you to use more than just one braincell

>>8027363
i feel like backgrounds are what have suffered the most

>>8027392
Yeah, I used to get really cool looking backgrounds with the old mixes. It's a shame I deleted most of my old stuff.

You shouldnt post cunny guys, its not right to sexualize minors

while searching for artist blends I found some guy named mirham who has over 1k patreon subs
what the fuck. I didn't realize people made that much just doing blacked gens. dude is probably making 3-5k a month just making these and he barely has 130 or so patreon posts, seemingly no twitter following so they must have got most of their follower through pixiv

is it that easy bros?

>>8027398
won't NAI van you for doing this?

>>8027412
yup. after truck kun didnt scrape his images everyone started doing it

>>8027412
looking at turd dicks every day isn't easy

>>8027418
>truck kun
are their artist blends/prompts uploaded anywhere by chance? thanks for reminding me

>>8027412
yes, people are too stupid to set their own local install or use NAI so they just pay some shmuck to gen porn for them lmao.

>>8027422
The LORA I have of theirs is called
JK-BlushySpicy-YD-CSR-Redrop.safete<wbr>nsors
exact weights are unknown but those are the artists

>>8027422
i actually have a gen when i bought some anlas to test NAI. just drop this image into nai inspect

1boy,1girl, tomoe gozen (fate), artist_j.k., artist_blushyspicy, {{{artist_ yd o s-1634113533.png

I broke my Webui so I guess I'm learning ComfyUI

>>8027428
I check the boorus for samples of those artists and jesus ReDrop is doing the heavy lifting

>>8027431
if you look at the weighting used its heavily yd orangemaru

>>8027428
thanks anon. looks like my initial artist blend I got from some guy was about half way there.
I'm getting close to 2k pixiv subs, maybe I'll start grinding petreon soon for the retards

>>8027433
good luck with the quick bucks lol. this one looks like it just has nyantcha in it. i think almost all the blacked shit is literally the same with 1-2 artist difference

>>8027433
you're better off grinding uber eats deliveries

>>8027433
99% of your pixiv followers are bots.
Go ahead and check their accounts. They'll almost all be following hundreds of other accounts.

>>8027434
now if only you could get cnuy bucks

> Try based64 again. See familiar red belly button.
Backgrounds are pretty based though.

masterpiece, best quality, detailed lighting, octans, no humans, moon, sky, night, full moon, cloud, whale, inverted reflection in water, outdoors, scenery, night sky, water, watercraft, cloudy sky, church, skeleton, animal..jpg

>>8027455
HUUUUUUUUUUHHH? HECKIN BACKGROUNDERINOS?! IN MY NAI?!!!!!

>>8027464
yo how do i stop adetailer from making this shit box

>>8023534
Speaking of us the most oppressed minority, does anyone know if there's a good lineart/canny model for SDXL?

I'm still using 1.5 for those, I'd basically just be able to color my art with it but when I tried the available models for SDXL/Pony none really worked.

which model actually understands the concept of breedability

>>8027412
every thread is like groundhog day

>>8027412
The fact that Patreon is ok with bestiality borderline guro content but loli is banned is beyond me.

>>8027472
Try anyline+mistoline. it blows canny out of the water
https://github.com/Mikubill/sd-webu<wbr>i-controlnet/discussions/2907

>>8027412
do they really have that many subs or is it like money laundering?

>>8027494
Nta but I didnt understand what files I was supposed to download from the preprocessor

>>8027498
I don't know if it works on forge, but for a1111 it should be: https://huggingface.co/TheMistoAI/M<wbr>istoLine/tree/main/Anyline
> and rename the model to mistoLine_softedge_sdxl_fp16.safete<wbr>nsors.
Other preprocessors don't work that well

>>8027498
>>8027506
Actually I just realized that's a .pth not a .safetensors. No idea about renaming it, really. I use comfy. It downloads that .pth by itself and it just works.

>>8027490
whoever invented stirrup legwear like that should probably be shot, assuming they haven't been already

>>8027512
>>8027506
Nothing get detected by the preprocessor, they dont even show up

>>8027530
dunno why but closed and clean pussy looks much hotter than a spread one

I finally decided to try NAI and the shills have been lying this entire time
Can't even do (gpo,ces:1.3) on NAI and they say this shit is better than pony
SAD!

>>8027535
because pussy are ugly, dicks are much better looking

>>8027538
Are these (gpo, ces) in the room with us right now, anon? Why don't you go to sleep, rest well and relax

>>8027538
That's too Bad! Then, I don't mind taking care of your NAI account instead. Provide it so you're no longer dealing with NAIshills!

>>8027543
You wish

But generally it does fine at these hours, go ahead

>>8027554
Is there some kind of combined League Waifu lora?
Will it let me gen Yordle Irelia?

>>8027558
not a good one I know of, I just made some for my favorites

>>8027477
the one you train for it. I believe in you anon

>>8027558
I couldnt even manage to get regular Irelia consistently and the loras sucks for her so good luck with something like that

>>8027562
It'll be good once we move on from CLIP, shit is old and holding us back so much

>>8027562
WILL JORDACH COOK THE MODEL THAT WILL DETHRONE ASTRAKEKIE'S TYRANNY? OR WILL HE FAIL MISERABLY? WE'LL SEE ON THE NEXT EPISODE OF /hdg/!!!!! STAY TUNED!!!!!

>>8027567
Pony will still be the best model

why the fuck doesn't onetrainer have a multires noise offset?
and why the fuck doesn't kohya have rex and came?
fuck

>>8027520
dont be so sure about that anon

>>8027583
i am more sure than ever
>>8027575
why add features that demonstrably improve training when we could make PRs for useless gimmicks like DORA

>>8027589
>why add features that demonstrably improve training
i'll go get the rope

>>8027428
damn, this feels like ez mode now that I'm using this. thanks anon

i made a python script to generate random proompts for more variety<br>it's scarily good

Protip, elf is one of the strongest ways to get non-furry content from the furry NAI model, stronger than prompting for humanoids and putting furry in negs.

Useful if you want to use e621 tagging but don’t want to yiff in hell

nsfw, 1girl, mei (overwatch),1,2, [[fizrotart]], dino (dinoartforame), houkisei, s-282920783.png

>>8027617
I was gonna say it should be pretty good for /aco/ type of thing since ef was but then I remembered they removed artist tags
lol

>>8027621
NAIV4 will be removing them as well, but don't worry you'll have vibe transfer.

nsfw, 1girl, mei (overwatch), 1,2,[[fizrotart]], dino (dinoartforame), houkisei, s-901166699.png

>>8027622
stating things you don't know with confidence only makes you look like a moron

>>8027622
they're only doing it for the furry model because furries are more autistic about their shit
nips wont do shit

>>8027636
Hello sir, this has been confirmed already.

>>8027620
>>8027629
Love the titties on these!

>>8027644
This. Astralite said they're getting rid of artist tags on stream. Like him or not he knows what he's talking about because he worked with NAI. But your effort is wasted here, their egos are too big to listen to reason.

>>8024852
I can't believe you made Japanese Shadman good

naiGODs mocking localkeks:
>two more weeks until it gets good!!
localjeets 'mocking' naiGODs:
>two more weeks until it gets bad!!
the self-owning never stops, even they subconsciously recognize their caste

>>8027701
NAI cannot do gpo or ces you retard

>>8027611
>artist:j.k., artist:blushyspicy, {{{artist: yd orange maru}}}, artist:Cutesexyrobutts, artist:redrop
Is this native or do I need to download some loras?

>>8027739
this is nai so all you have to do is copy paste it

>>8027722
it can, I just vibe transfered some pony gens from this thread. but i won't post them since aco doesn't belong here

>>8027701
How much time till your batch is ready? at least I can filter the groidspam.

>>8027749
Those are specific concepts sir, not a style.

>>8027685
inpainting accidently removed the speculum but I think I like the result.

Starting to get a hang of inpainting.

>>8027742
CSRB is overpowering - I guess I shouldn't do it in autism SDXL then, huh?

>>8027701
But NAI was mogged the second Pony released?

>>8027774
Gross icky whore. Truly revolting stuff. Guess it is what you are seeking though, so congrats: you made it.

>>8025913
>he thinks pony wasn't and still isn't shilled incredibly hard
>he doesn't know about astracuck getting booted off 4chans /mlp/ board for this exact reason
lol, lmao even

how intellectually disabled do you have to be to engage in the same console war for half a year now

>>8027701
>all these coping localsaars
local lost

>>8025945
>>8025947
>this is the brain capacity the cascade hating jeet has
not shocking

>>8027801
What is the lore on this? Tried to dig and couldn't find anything.

>can't seem to gen a 2nd girl standing beside and watching the 1st girl get railed
>with a 2boy threesome prompt it gens a 2nd guy standing menacingly to the side
>inpaint him and change the prompt to 2girls and add the other girl and it works now even though nothing else did
??????????????????????????
I'm a genius

>>8027848
https://files.catbox.moe/a17gtv.png<wbr>

these speculum ones weren't my best, the speculum lora I found is really fickle. its on Civ.

>>8027801
yeah, the discord bot shilling and later incredible pushback against ANYTHING that isn't pony opened my eyes on this. hate on nai I could explain but the immediate seethe when you mention arti, cascade or wdxl are certainly not natural

I keep getting
RuntimeError: CUDA error: out of memory
CUDA kernel errors might be asynchronously reported at some other API call, so the stacktrace below might be incorrect.

on forge been using it fine for months up until a couple days ago. Started randomly happening even though I haven't changed up the number or resolution of gens.

>>8027860
>>8027801
I'm completely out of the loop, are arti/cascade/wdxl as good/better than pony for things like prompt only sex scenes? But I can understand why Pony is by far the most popular, even CivitAI gave Pony a dedicated category which now has thousands of LORAs/merges because it was the first model to beat NAI for localgen but I'd like to try alternatives for sure

>>8027796
Maybe these are more your style, but that's it for me tonight. And I wont be on/posting as much tmr so you'll be happy.

https://files.catbox.moe/w8jprx.png<wbr>
https://files.catbox.moe/aqhp1j.png<wbr>
https://files.catbox.moe/q40lfu.png<wbr>
https://files.catbox.moe/ar3kv6.png<wbr>
https://files.catbox.moe/e87fwf.png<wbr>
https://files.catbox.moe/lep1z0.png<wbr>

>>8027883
cascade can't really be counted yet because its still in beta-preview stage, that's why everyone's hyping up it having latent caching completed, they want the actual model cooking to begin

>>8027782
Nvm, I literally found the lora mix in the repo. Remember folks, reading is fundamental

>>8027901
No, you don't have to generate children for me. In fact the idea of putting black lipstick on a child and making them a dead inside used up child whore is even more idiotic than your disgusting fat pig, with that ugly cunning smile to boot to make it seem like this degeneracy is completely normal for her: she has no youth, no vigor, no innocence in her.
You can generate a normal 20-year-old medium breasts type of girl that would look more youthful and full of life than this junk.
You will never get it. You are ugly. And you images are ugly.

>>8027921
Cry me a river, I will not be contributing to western cartoon general.

>>8027901
Black lipstick on a loli is hot, good gens

>>8027901
lovely lively cat cunny, I love it.

>>8027933
I'm still here though. What are you going to do about it?!

>>8027494
Anyone got any examples of it in action?

>>8027377
no one shares shit there, allergic to catboxing/stealthpng
fuck /b/

>>8027232
has anyone baked tenako (mugu77) style btw? there is one on civitai but its underbaked af

I'm so obsessed with Furina, I want to learn to do two characters, imagine her and miku. I like blue a lot.

motherfucker no wonder the artist lora I'm baking sucks, I had 0 dropout

>>8027957 (me)
autistic hoarding habits pays off https://files.catbox.moe/6yqdn8.saf<wbr>etensors
i assume its good because i got it from here

>>8027955
>anyone that isn't in on the western degeneracymaxxxing is a literal pedo incel
Continue on the path of nihilism, hedonism and overindulgence. Dull yourself to anything fine grained and natural. This will surely not lead to misery down the road.

>>8027968
give me an example and why I should please

>8027972
what the FUCK is bro talking about?

>>8027972
>Continue on the path of nihilism, hedonism and overindulgence.
You are literally in ai-generated jap cartoon porn general. Do you expect some sort of high sensual art from people who dwell here? Get real.

>>8027978
>gens bad
well, show YOUR high sensual art then!

I'll be back tomorrow with some gens using a different lora style but should I be merging styles and tinkering to find something more personal or is that a waste of time? Any suggestions appreciated.

>>8027977
No worries, I understand these matters are above some people's heads, it's all good if you were just born a bit deficient, the society is tolerant to this kind of thing nowadays.
>>8027978
No I do see some good stuff from time to time, so I'm still here. Why shouldn't I shit on shit eaters though?! I like it. And who knows maybe some silent third party will see my ways as better ways and will be swayed towards something better.

>>8027991
>birthdaycake.jpg
>no age candles
is this a shameless t*ddlercon request

Underage-looking characters are good and appealing to me, sorry if that bothers you, but I can't help it, I'm just born that way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://civitai.com/articles/4560/u<wbr>pscaling-images-using-multidiffusio<wbr>n

Is this still the best way to upscale gens?

>>8027985
I like trying to mix artstyle to find something new, I have a few one that I like but at some point I cant even tell what I like or not

Getting this error on a fresh forge installation, webui is unable to launch. Any tips?

>>8028035
I've done that like 20 times lol

>>8027988
>And who knows maybe some silent third party will see my ways as better ways and will be swayed towards something better.
Doubt it. This is 4chan, people getting annoyed and contrarian is more likely.

>>8028042
Yours looks better (besides fingers hooooly fuck), box it for study?

>short fictional humanoid, green
>hehe gobbo

>short fictional humanoid, pale
>hello? police?

What idiot comes up with rules like this?

>>8028050
Incase type garbage that should be removed on sight if we had any functioning moderation here at all.

>deep, full penetration
Is this not possible with AI? I've never seen it in all my years.

>>8028055
Reminds me of the red-headed wandered. Well done.

i've been struggling to get a girl hugging a comically large cock with a nice cheek squish

>>8027938
Perfection! I love the style and background a lot