{"title":"/hive/","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2657231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Welcome to beekeeping general. Discuss apiary and bees.
Old thread: >>2577491","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1697528378490091.jpg","filename":"IMG_5834.jpg"},"posted":1697528378},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2657289,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2652775
>>2640881
They discuss beekeeping this these generals","attachment":null,"posted":1697548296},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2657611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657289
Is this true?","attachment":null,"posted":1697603798},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2657957,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
Bumping for beees","attachment":null,"posted":1697692970},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2658034,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
What are other beekeeping anons keeping busy with during the winter season. The girls are battened down for the season, so it's pretty much sugar stores and fondant for the year and enjoying the honey harvests for me until spring and swarm season.","attachment":null,"posted":1697725832},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2658205,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How do I make fake honey to sell?","attachment":null,"posted":1697759592},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2658303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658205
Are you a Red Chinaman with a large manufacturing plant? If so, it's easy.","attachment":null,"posted":1697783217},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2658513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
> makes thread
> asking detailed knowledge about bees
> not even a bee
> actually a bee slaver
Hope y'all get stung","attachment":null,"posted":1697847450},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2658648,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"> make dogshit thread
> zero information or discussion
> hurrrrrrrrr general","attachment":null,"posted":1697890330},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2658650,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
Bumpin for bees","attachment":null,"posted":1697891277},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2658781,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658513
>>2658648
>samefagging
>upset that it only links to a bump limited old thread full of discussion
>dood if you don’t have amazing links and wisdom in your bread I can complainz!
I got stung twice this, my first year with my new free swarm in my old bought used hive. Both times I was messing with their hive entrance with my hand and got stung on a finger. Good for ya","attachment":null,"posted":1697927349},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2658809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658034
I left them to fend for themselves for the winter. They have plenty of honey to eat. I don't want no bitchass hives that can't survive a winter on their own. It's survival of the fittest in this yard.","attachment":null,"posted":1697939318},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2659022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658205
curse you","attachment":null,"posted":1698003500},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2659140,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658781
Do you now wear gloves?","attachment":null,"posted":1698033352},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2659560,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658809
Did you at least insulate your hive? Or do you live somewhere warm?","attachment":null,"posted":1698123965},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2659607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2659560
No insulation. I live in PA.","attachment":null,"posted":1698144886},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2660374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2659607
It gets pretty cold in PA anon. Is this your first season? You might want to insulate the top at least.","attachment":null,"posted":1698304184},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2660409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I work for the largest bee keeping supplier in the US (if you know you know). Ask me anything.","attachment":null,"posted":1698322706},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2660648,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2660409
Good margins?","attachment":null,"posted":1698379424},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2660721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2660374
No.","attachment":null,"posted":1698403583},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2660726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2660648
Wood products that you actually need, like hive bodies and frames are the bread and butter. That's what keeps the lights on.
Tons of money wasted because they probably can't get anyone competent in the office. For instance right now we have no warehouse space because they keep buying things we don't need. If they could cut the waste then this place would be unstoppable.","attachment":null,"posted":1698405672},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2660974,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2660726
Good to know anon. Unironically, have management to get a 3rd party consultant to tell them what you know (move all needles inventory off the books pronto) so that it gets sorted sooner than later","attachment":null,"posted":1698484592},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661023,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2660409
MannLake?","attachment":null,"posted":1698504022},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661025,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2660726
>>2660974
>doing this kind of work for free
Dont be a sucker. Never contribute unless you are being compensated specifically and generously. You think those corporate cocksuckers are going to give a shit about you?","attachment":null,"posted":1698504385},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
set fire to your non-native shit","attachment":null,"posted":1698527887},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661133,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
Anyone here catch wild swarms? I have nearby beehives And am hoping to get a loose swarm","attachment":null,"posted":1698529233},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661137,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I found some of my bees having seizures. I believe this is because of a nearby farmer spraying what was likely a pesticide on his crops.
I will have my revenge.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1698529962040287.jpg","filename":"1698466355663.jpg"},"posted":1698529962},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661133
>>2661133
I caught a wild swarm with my beehive the second year it put it up. It was a used beehive with used frames and stuff though so it already smelled like bees. If you have new equipment google about it to find out when they typically swarm in your area and put cotton balls soaked in lemongrass oil in it, it helps attract them supposedly, but the smell of bees and honey and stuff is the best attractant","attachment":null,"posted":1698544645},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661258,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661137
This is a common tale","attachment":null,"posted":1698571353},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"found this one outside my house. should i get worried? they are black. i thought they were wasps but im not sure. their legs have those calves for polen so i think those are bees. can i harvest them in a beehive for honey? or that only applies to honeybees.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1698682397276551.jpg","filename":"IMG_20231030_110830.jpg"},"posted":1698682397},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661608
another one","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1698682497966534.jpg","filename":"IMG_20231030_110813.jpg"},"posted":1698682497},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661608
>>2661609
wasps. kill.","attachment":null,"posted":1698686437},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661790,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661608
Looks like wasps","attachment":null,"posted":1698730272},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2661794,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
This is livin","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1698730879031399.jpg","filename":"IMG_6353.jpg"},"posted":1698730879},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2662407,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661794
Looks tasty","attachment":null,"posted":1698899098},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2662750,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661794
Neat","attachment":null,"posted":1698986481},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2662792,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661133
Super easy if you know how anon, if your looking for swarms spring is gonna be your ideal time, put it out of social media if people see a swarm to call you etc. Most people are genuinely shitscared of swarms, so will be happy to have you come and take free bees.
>>2661608
They're a type of wasp anon, you want to remove them and put them in a woods somewhere. They're beneficial polinators, but also don't want them close to your bee set up.","attachment":null,"posted":1699014052},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2662818,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661794
Can you eat beeswax? I know it probably doesn't taste that good but I'm curious if it's bad for you","attachment":null,"posted":1699020813},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2663012,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661608
>should i get worried? they are black
Yes","attachment":null,"posted":1699073091},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2663013,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2662818
You eat the honey then spit the wax out","attachment":null,"posted":1699073151},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2663025,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I need to winterize my surviving hive soon.
I'll try to be more attentive next year. And continue guerilla garden more clover. I might do some over the winter now that I'm thinking about it
>>2662818
You can chew it like gum, taffy, fat off a steak texture. But sweet what with the honey and all","attachment":null,"posted":1699080052},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2663039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661794
Comb","attachment":null,"posted":1699084283},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2663148,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2660374
Insulation is overrated unless you're really far north. Ventilation is what's really important. Moisture kills more hives than cold.","attachment":null,"posted":1699128050},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2663293,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2663148
Not wrong","attachment":null,"posted":1699170234},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2664216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661609
>>2661608
Wasps anon","attachment":null,"posted":1699337318},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2664283,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2662818
Yes anon, a delicacy is to have toast with honey comb on it, the wax gets warm and melty. Perfectly fine to eat.
I prefer to keep my wax and use it as an addition to any beard creams I come up with, just a little adds nicely for keeping hair in place.
Likewise I have a really good recipe for honey cream from the 1900's that shit on your breakfast toast vastly outclasses anything you could get in terms of modern spreadables.","attachment":null,"posted":1699361801},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2664690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2664283
NTA but thank you","attachment":null,"posted":1699433183},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2666093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658205
DIAF","attachment":null,"posted":1699741757},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2666811,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Gonna have my family get me a bunch of beekeeping stuff for Christmas. What's the best beesuit?","attachment":null,"posted":1699901361},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2667030,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2666811
Ask the store anon","attachment":null,"posted":1699938852},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2667036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2664283
>beard creams","attachment":null,"posted":1699939312},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2667798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2667036
You just know","attachment":null,"posted":1700111480},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2668963,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661608
Bad day friend","attachment":null,"posted":1700373256},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2669394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"we had about 2 months of 200mm/day rain every day so only the bravest little ones adventured outside. Been giving them suplementary feeding and now they started making honey pots again.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1700484316495051.jpg","filename":"1700484049830.jpg"},"posted":1700484316},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2669397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2669394
last year this whole top section was filled with honey and pollen baskets. This weather sucks because now is when most trees are flowering.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1700484797427851.jpg","filename":"17004843660511.jpg"},"posted":1700484797},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2670656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2669397
>>2669394
Cute","attachment":null,"posted":1700720516},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2670741,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is Hoover Hive stuff good?","attachment":null,"posted":1700751067},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2670814,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2670656
they can't sting and they store their honey in these big vats.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1700770014734205.jpg","filename":"honey.jpg"},"posted":1700770014},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2671187,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2670814
What are they called?","attachment":null,"posted":1700871856},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2671245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2671187
Poobees","attachment":null,"posted":1700881170},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2671256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2671245
What are those?","attachment":null,"posted":1700884680},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2671347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2671187
Stingless bees. I have 3 species
>Melipona quadrifasciata (Mandaçaia) >>2669397 >>2670814
>plebeya droryana (Abelha mirim, probably one of the smallest social bees around) >>2669394
And Tetragonisca angustula (Jatai bee) in this pic.
>>2671245
Some of them do use a mix of cow dung and clay to cover holes in their hives, mine just use a shitton of resin. There are also Meat eating bees that do not produce honey and scavange for dead animals.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1700915111044103.jpg","filename":"1700493673514.jpg"},"posted":1700915111},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2671348,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2671347
The bees that stay flying around the entrance tube are of a special Soldier caste, they came as a response in the arms race they are locked in with Lestrimelitta spp. (they coevolved) which raids their hives.","attachment":null,"posted":1700915322},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2672104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2671348
>>2671347
What country are you from anon? LATAM?","attachment":null,"posted":1701056985},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2672157,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2672104
Yes, Brazil unfortunately. I live in an apartment so I can only have stingless bees, but I hope to purchase a farm to become a beekeeper when I get a new job.","attachment":null,"posted":1701082521},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2672933,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2672157
Thanks for sharing. Bees in Brazil sounds wild. I am praying for you and your bee dreams.","attachment":null,"posted":1701230952},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2672941,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2672157
Try not to kill yourself like other brazil anons","attachment":null,"posted":1701232832},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2673005,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2672941
>>2672933
I was working on monitoring them with a camera but life got in the way, I hope to restart the project when possible","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1701252297664754.webm","filename":"beetracking-fixed.webm"},"posted":1701252297},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2673015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2672933
thanks browski I hope I do not kms","attachment":null,"posted":1701256009},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2673476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658205
Most Jewish post I've ever seen on /out/","attachment":null,"posted":1701358971},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2674037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2673476
...seems way more chinese to me.","attachment":null,"posted":1701460767},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2674064,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've read that log hives are the best for colony longevity, due to the natural habitat simulation and providing habitat for pseudoscorpions.
Question is how the fuck do I source these big ass logs for them?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1701463850487988.jpg","filename":"20190714_1343091-scaled-e1579459081329.jpg"},"posted":1701463850},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2674095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2674064
Just make a Warré hive. It combines positive characteristics of a hollow log with good access for the beekeeper (and less cost and work than commercial designs).
A log hive is only really good if you want to set it up and leave the bees do their thing. You cant really do inspections and to get to the honey, you've got to destroy a lot of comb,probably with some brood. So no, or very limited harvest and if they have a problem, the colony will probably die.
For sourcing a log, make contact with a forester, treeclimber or land owner. Ask them to set aside a nice thick log or branch for you. Then use a chainsaw to cut it to size and hollow it out. Dont cut of your legs. Or you know, just get some boards and build a Warré.","attachment":null,"posted":1701473721},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2674200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
Bump","attachment":null,"posted":1701499152},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2674223,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What the cheapest option to wrap a hive? I have one box thats survived my neglect but Im going to the hardware store today . Just get an old blanket and some plastic perhaps?","attachment":null,"posted":1701509964},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2674224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2674064
>>2674095
Has anyone cut a square chamber into a log and just shoved frames into that cavity?","attachment":null,"posted":1701510073},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2674234,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Nice find today","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1701515088271261.jpg","filename":"IMG_7100.jpg"},"posted":1701515088},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2674235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2674234","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1701515186676418.jpg","filename":"IMG_7105.jpg"},"posted":1701515186},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2674236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2674235
Brood was slimed out and couldn’t find the queen unfortunately, but got some cracking wild honey","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1701515292151551.jpg","filename":"IMG_7110.jpg"},"posted":1701515292},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2674297,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2673005
What are you using as your platform for this tracker, ESP32 or similar? I was planning to equip some of my hives with arduino sensor loggers and maybe a camera next season for learning purposes, and to test out if it would be possible to use it for swarming detection .
God bless you and your bees anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1701534647},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2675142,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2674236
>>2674235
>>2674234
This is awesome","attachment":null,"posted":1701751490},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2676200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2674297
old laptop running custom opencv code.
I read a research paper some time ago that used a little entrance, kinda like a subway turnstile, with LED emitter/receiver pairs. I was going to do that but these each species has a characteristic entry shape (that serves social and defence purposes), so I opted for cameras (most species also keep a garrison on the entrance). If you have european bee hives that can work really well. Imagine a little box which channels leading in/out of the hive. On each channel you put an Led on the top and a receiver on the bottom, and count how many hits you get. Super easy to connect to an arduino.
>>2674064
yeah they are good, but hard to extract honey/wax. I have a native hive which is literally a log sawed off in three sections. Extraction is not a problem because I do not use their honey.","attachment":null,"posted":1702052873},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2676402,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
Hello /hive/rs (or whatever you call yourselves) I'm seeing a lot of bees in my garden recently and I want to cuck whoever is cucking me out of my pollen. How do I get the bees to move their hive to my place? I have no experience with beekeeping so how do I get started?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1702082920761908.jpg","filename":"brock lesnar thinking.jpg"},"posted":1702082920},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2676469,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2676402
Go on YouTube and look up swarm capture","attachment":null,"posted":1702093177},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2676476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">fewer bees and insects in general each year
>fireflies endangered
>soon bees will be extinct","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1702093396935481.jpg","filename":"its_over.jpg"},"posted":1702093396},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2676749,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"any general tips for how to attract and keep bees in my garden? i'm an amateur gardener and i'd like to have some around since they're so useful","attachment":null,"posted":1702148212},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2676769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2676749
Plant flowers. Get a birdbath. Plant more flowers after the hat.
Look up when beekeepers say there's a pollen derth and find flowers that will be on bloom at that time.
Leave leafs on the ground in some spot","attachment":null,"posted":1702149858},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2676778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2676476
I live in Florida, I do not notice a lower amount of skeeters. It's almost worth destroying the ecosystem if it means no skeeters","attachment":null,"posted":1702151357},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2677337,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2676476
> he posts doomerism in the thread dedicated to enslaving and breeding bees
Chin up friend, bee positive","attachment":null,"posted":1702266651},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2677339,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Going to a big apiary to get my first colonies tomorrow. Getting them for free in exchange for helping to split a bunch of hives. I’ll post some pics","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1702266782191387.jpg","filename":"IMG_7080.jpg"},"posted":1702266782},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2677340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2677339
Very cool anon, good luck. If you haven't yet, check local laws. Some states require bee licenses.","attachment":null,"posted":1702266871},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2677342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2677340
Thanks bro. Yeah I got registered as a recreational bee keeper","attachment":null,"posted":1702267129},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2677542,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2676476
I did an optional class on environmental law this last semester and we're really fucked
Imagine one topic, whichever one you like best. Biodiversity? Glaciers? Forests? Dangerous residues? Rivers and lakes? Yeah we're irreversibly fucked in all of 'em
I'm not American but it still applies to pretty much everywhere in the world","attachment":null,"posted":1702322691},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2677698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2677339
Made it. 5 hour drive into the outback lol. Hives from a deceased estate. Will post more later","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1702354798911822.jpg","filename":"IMG_7333.jpg"},"posted":1702354798},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2678070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2677698
>>2677339
Outstanding","attachment":null,"posted":1702443680},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2678101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2677698
Back at crack of dawn to close up our freshly split hives","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1702459345150478.jpg","filename":"IMG_7341.jpg"},"posted":1702459345},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2678102,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2678101
Boxes were fully ravaged by fire when the old beekeeper accidentally started a fire with his smoker that destroyed 3 houses in the area","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1702459460719053.jpg","filename":"IMG_7340.jpg"},"posted":1702459460},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2678103,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2678102
But the colonies were thriving them, full of holes and hadn’t been checked in ages","attachment":null,"posted":1702459599},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2678104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2678103
The girls were happy to get some fresh air after a long hot drive. No overheated bees fortunately. Boxes are made out of douglas fir and are a good 4 or five inches thick so nicely insulated. Can’t wait for some honey","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1702459797973499.jpg","filename":"IMG_7346.jpg"},"posted":1702459797},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2678182,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've been reading about owning bees, which is something I really want to do when I get a house.
One thing that has me worried is: how do you control swarming?
I understand you can add more racks for the bees to prevent it temporarily since swarming happens when the density reaches a point, but what's the long term plan if I only want to keep a couple of hives and no more? Let them create another nest naturally? Force them into another?","attachment":null,"posted":1702482239},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2678858,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just bought local "natural 100% beewax" (cant have bees yet). How do I know if its legit and not laced with candle wax or something like that.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1702614152751877.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1702614152},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2678903,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2678858
Different melting temps. Buy a candy thermometer and a try it out.","attachment":null,"posted":1702630238},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2678905,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2678182
Monitor them Regularly adjust. Or kill extra queens of you see there little pods.","attachment":null,"posted":1702630317},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2678978,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2662818
Mind your own beeswax anon. It's the bees' knees.","attachment":null,"posted":1702657268},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2679232,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2678104
>>2678103
>>2678102
>>2678101
Neat","attachment":null,"posted":1702712075},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2679513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2678858
I’ve never seen natural beeswax that yellow","attachment":null,"posted":1702778976},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2679882,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2679513
Maybe they ate yellow pollen?","attachment":null,"posted":1702876275},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2680319,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2679882
That's not how this works","attachment":null,"posted":1702963904},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2680376,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
Thoughts on flowhive? Is it worth it to get a cheapie one from China? Where does one even get a colony to start off with?","attachment":null,"posted":1702989215},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2680547,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2680376
I’ve heard they suck balls, but that could just be elitist bee keepers talking. Check YouTube","attachment":null,"posted":1703021992},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2680712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2680376
Frank the bee guy swears by them","attachment":null,"posted":1703048309},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2680989,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2680712
????","attachment":null,"posted":1703120913},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2682039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2680989
The bee guy","attachment":null,"posted":1703399946},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2682541,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hive beetles are fucking up my new hive! What do?","attachment":null,"posted":1703548131},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2683167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2682541
Use the treatment ??","attachment":null,"posted":1703738819},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2684056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2677698
Nice anon","attachment":null,"posted":1704004478},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2684141,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is making your own beehives a worthwhile endeavor?","attachment":null,"posted":1704035041},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2684148,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2684141
The tolerances for bee space are pretty narrow. Depends how handy ewe are.","attachment":null,"posted":1704036633},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2684543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2684141
Spiritually worthwhile? absolutely
monetary worthwhile? depends of the kind of bees you have, and the products you make. Ivve hear honey and beewax are not as profitable for the little man, so they make more money using them as polinators for crops.","attachment":null,"posted":1704157401},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2684546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657611
Yes
but don't call me They... it weirds me the fuck out.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1704157646571390.jpg","filename":"Hey kid want some permaculture.jpg"},"posted":1704157646},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2684606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2684141
Depends","attachment":null,"posted":1704172891},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2684607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
are beekeeper anons aware that women lust over them on the internet? I.E. "Beekeeping age"","attachment":null,"posted":1704173215},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2684608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"reminder to every last one of you faggots that australian bees are 10000000 times better cause they don't fuck up environments, they cant sting and they make cool ass hives","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1704173338964357.jpg","filename":"IMG_6236.jpg"},"posted":1704173338},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2685558,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2684607
This is weird","attachment":null,"posted":1704421568},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2686179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2684607
True?","attachment":null,"posted":1704605997},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2686256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2684607
I saw something in reference to this as well. Anecdotally, I have rotten luck with women but when I told a couple of girls I was gonna pick up beekeeping soon they perked up and we're super interested in me. Haven't really talked about it since but I thought it was worth noting.","attachment":null,"posted":1704630635},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2687449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2686256
Good luck anon","attachment":null,"posted":1704867938},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2687453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I could watch these guys for hours","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1704868802079008.jpg","filename":"IMG_7578.jpg"},"posted":1704868802},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2687456,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2684608
I’m not paying 700 bucks for a native bee hive","attachment":null,"posted":1704869021},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2687919,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2678903
>>2679513
Me again, thanks for the answers, I tested it and it was legit. the past week made a marigold/beewax/olive oil cream and it worked pretty good so far.","attachment":null,"posted":1705006775},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2687925,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2687456
> Paying
> for a native hive
Just find and follow the equivalent of this video in your country (your bees are very similar to ours), and sonner than later you'll have free bees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9vKrWkNG-E","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1705007351094425.jpg","filename":"hq720.jpg"},"posted":1705007351},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2687927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2684607
>>2686256
> Men that can handle hundreds of dangerous females, take care of them and at the same time blow smoke in their faces to shut them up
The math adds up.","attachment":null,"posted":1705007483},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2689176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2687925
Real?","attachment":null,"posted":1705313841},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2689190,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2687925
Fish swim in and cant get out","attachment":null,"posted":1705318226},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2690357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2689190
Free fish?","attachment":null,"posted":1705562917},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2691127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2687453
Nice bees","attachment":null,"posted":1705722421},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2691191,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2687925
That’s a disgusting language, I’m not listening to that, and I’m not making a microplastic hive for my bees","attachment":null,"posted":1705749934},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2691344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Stay warm little guys.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1705787238607961.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240120_164629.jpg"},"posted":1705787238},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2691371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2691191
what a sad existence, i recomend you to leave this site and enjoy life with your family and friends. anyway its just a trap, you are supposed to put the bees on a wood hive shortly after there is a queen there. you even have to cut the bottle in half.","attachment":null,"posted":1705791754},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2691880,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2691344
Indeed","attachment":null,"posted":1705900765},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2693427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2687927
Kek","attachment":null,"posted":1706254301},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2694742,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657289
Dead threads","attachment":null,"posted":1706590527},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2695389,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2676476
Monarchs are endangered and bumble bees are becoming extinct in more US states.
It hurts so much :(
>>2677542
What’s really ducked is that even if humanity were to collectively stop releasing carbon and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, heating will still continue due the the feedback loops from glaciers and permafrost melting.
>>2657231
Just got done painting the insides of traps with beeswax. Family member and I are still new to beekeeping but we got 5 boxes right now with 3 doing really well. We have a whole bunch of wood boxes and 3-4 different types of poly boxes to test out. Bunch of queens are in the way and hopefully by this time next year we will have around 20 boxes of bees. We’re going to plant clover, buckwheat, various wildflowers, and sunflowers for da bees.
Garage and barn is packed brim with bee boxes, frames, nucs, supers, and other related thingys. Next year we will harvest honey, not sure how we are going to approach everything regarding that but I’m excited regardless.
If only there was a way to raise bumble bees!
Fuck mites
Fuck beetles
Fuck mice
Fuck euro hornets
Fuck bald faced hornets
Yellow jackets fuck off
And fuck whatever is killing off all the insects","attachment":null,"posted":1706751494},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2695394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2684546
I don't even know what's real anymore
Beyond based","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1706752721155022.jpg","filename":"I hear you like beavers anon.jpg"},"posted":1706752721},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2695397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658513
>bee slaver
Lol, I wish. 100 years later Bee NFL, Bee NBA, Bee minority loan program, Bee priority in hiring, bee priority for immigration.
Fucking total bee dominance thanks to slavery. >You're welcome.","attachment":null,"posted":1706753402},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2695729,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2678102
stop showing off you upside down aussie! cunts are so cocky about being upside down! without jest, cool adventure.","attachment":null,"posted":1706846165},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2696123,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2695389
You sound like a great steward of nature
Keep it up","attachment":null,"posted":1706952962},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2696135,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2666811
Heavy weight Tyvek suit, duck tape, Boonie cap with screen door mesh, more duck tape. Dont forget smoke box and bees are solar powered. No sun no move no sting.... Ohh and someone to tape you up and release you from your shit suit.","attachment":null,"posted":1706962408},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2696565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2695389
The weak hive is kill. Probably have been dead for a long time. All the hives have been insulated and strapped for winter conditions. Getting the Queen and starting a new hive so late in the season was a a crap shoot but we learned from the experience and we will keep the boards of honey for whatever and all the built up honeycombs will be put into the swarm boxes.
The other weak hive is doing good thankfully. They’re eating the pollen and protein patties and only started to eat from their candy board.
One hive is so full of bees they have ate half of their candy board. We guess they are big enough to get two nucs from it.
Seeds are coming soon. Will be planting barley in a ways it will be blooming during a time when pollen/nectar levels are at their lowest in the summer so all the bees can have a steady supply of food.
Also we built a smaller sized box that can hold six frames out of general polystyrene from a hardware store, not as dense as the kind used to make polystyrene hives but $30 of this stuff from a local hardware store can make multiple examples for the cost of a simple polystyrene sized box. Just make sure everything measured good.","attachment":null,"posted":1707087248},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2696569,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"People who kill carpenter bees are jerks.","attachment":null,"posted":1707089850},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2697552,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone here sell honey, wax, comb, or bees themselves?","attachment":null,"posted":1707363702},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2697816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2696569
True
>>2697552
Some anons who drop in here. Unironically, you'd find immense value using an AI to mine data from Reddit, premies, YouTube comments","attachment":null,"posted":1707456322},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2698041,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2664283
I want those recipes, anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1707523295},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2698062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2666811
at the Apiary i worked at we just used a veil and fishermans jacket if it was hot you want to wear less bees hate the smell of swaet and wash your clothes in scented lavender","attachment":null,"posted":1707529497},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2698198,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"No one told me about all the poop on a warm winters day?","attachment":null,"posted":1707593726},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2698819,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I got a free hive today","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1707802044952136.jpg","filename":"IMG_8306.jpg"},"posted":1707802044},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2698917,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2698819
How'd you get it, anon? Was the previous owner just tired of maintaining it?","attachment":null,"posted":1707839785},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2699147,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2682541
If you are using a Langstroth you can put square strips of Swiffer in the corners of the hive pinned in place between the supers and the small hive beetles will get stuck in it when bees chase them into the corners (I believe it has to be rough side up not sure though). You can also buy cheap plastic traps online that you fill with oil.","attachment":null,"posted":1707875372},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2699217,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2698917
It was being used in government testing and was gonna get destroyed","attachment":null,"posted":1707896443},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2699225,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2663012
Universal law","attachment":null,"posted":1707904580},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2699906,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
Bump for bees","attachment":null,"posted":1708068888},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2699965,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658034
Just leave them with honey they can eat and don't be greedy. Feeding sugar syrup to bees will make the honey less pure because they WILL store it away in the same place they keep the honey.
>>2658205
By feeding your bees sugar syrup like >>2658034 does. It will result in the bees storing that syrup with the honey and diluting it. That's how big honey corporations make their honey so cheaply, by feeding the bees with HFCS that mostly ends up in the honey. The best part is that since the HFCS is technically bee food and honey is considered a single ingredient they're under no legal obligation to disclose that there's a high amount of HFCS in the honey, so they sell their pale HFCS-diluted honey in stores while people are none the wiser. This is just another reason it's so important to know where you're getting food from, who's making it, and how.","attachment":null,"posted":1708099271},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2700624,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2699965
Not anon
The trick is to not feed sugar/syrup when you have your supers on your hives.
Candy boards/sugar squares are fine for winter. Heck, some of our hives haven’t even touched their candy boards, preferring to consume their honey reserves first, while others have been going at them.","attachment":null,"posted":1708262080},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2700625,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2699965
what is the best way to identify honey that's made this way, is it just a lighter color? I buy local honey and it's the color of molasses.","attachment":null,"posted":1708264168},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2700628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661137
salt his earth anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1708264379},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2701229,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2699906
Based","attachment":null,"posted":1708398089},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2701231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700625
You generally can't tell. Honey is too variable depending on nectar source. Theres some seals and trademarks and stuff like that, some are worthless, some are actually quite strict and enforced, so needs some research what to trust.
The best way is to know where the honey came from and how it was produced and knowing the beekeeper. You know the beekeeper best, if it is yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1708399052},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2701236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Got a Better Bee polystyrene hive and a standard white painted 10 frame Langstroth hive ready for my backyard. I think I will get an additional hive too.
We have made plenty of swarm traps. Lots of Nuc sized traps that will put into trees and 8 traps using standard deep well boxes that are reinforced with wood on the sides and a somewhat insulated roof made of plywood on the top. These will be set upon tall flat surfaces like deer stands. Total amount of frames is ~120 IIRC for the traps we’ve made. Even if we only jump to ~20-30 hives by this time next year we will still have to put in much more time, money, and effort into building/assembling more boxes, frames, nucs, supers, winter insulation, and more.
Exited for it all. Maybe I such quit Americorps and become a full time keeper with a growing apiary :DDDDDD
Went to the local bee keeper association meeting. Of course I am the youngest guy there, plenty of boomers that have been doing this for years, newbies that are getting into bee keeping, some Amish/mennonites that have been beekeeping all their lives but know little aside from what they’ve been told by prior generations, and thankfully 1 guy who lives close by who is extremely knowledgeable and motivated. This guy spends half the meeting give Q&A to everyone and enjoys. He’s got only a bout 2 dozen hives but he stacks them talk (with a method name I can’t recall) and gets lots of honey from them. Too bad he’s stuck with a hand crank extractor that only takes about 4 frames at a time LOL, meanwhile me, my uncle, and another guy are wondering if a good chuck of change should be dropped on commercial sized honey extraction equipment. It’s amazing how some people who’ve been beekeeping for years have somewhat limited knowledge.
Also at work today, I spent a couple hours going through my state agency’s EBSCO portal and send myself 50 links of peer reviewed studies and some books regarding bee keeping, mites, disease, and whatnot.
Fugg yeah","attachment":null,"posted":1708400916},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2701304,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2701231
unfortunately I can not keep bees where I live.","attachment":null,"posted":1708424444},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2702172,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Me and this drone got a lot in common","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1708665540318887.jpg","filename":"drone.jpg"},"posted":1708665540},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2702222,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2702172
You'll never get to learn about the birds and the bees if you've got these on show when you bring a real female home. Pussy repellant in plastic form.","attachment":null,"posted":1708677699},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2702519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2702222
Nice quads, I will never bring a female home in my current condition. The figgies make good workout fuel sometimes","attachment":null,"posted":1708745298},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2702797,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2702172
Bruh","attachment":null,"posted":1708839793},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2703397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700628
Illegal","attachment":null,"posted":1709012333},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2704899,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I fucking love this board so much :>
thank you guys
I'm living pretty much in the city right now (albeit near the edge) but the posts here and my memories of times spent out hiking and in far-from-city nature make me so so happy and hopeful","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709388159155335.png","filename":"image (16).png"},"posted":1709388159},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2705068,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I found some bees harvesting woolly blue curl awhile back and they all had this indigo pollen collected on their legs.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709417514906632.jpg","filename":"IMG_3120.jpg"},"posted":1709417514},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2705095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
What do you think about Flow Hives?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709422559004552.jpg","filename":"images[1].jpg"},"posted":1709422559},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2705132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"mann lake anon here. I hope you bought your equipment already, they just put us on 12 hour schedule so the factory is running 24/7 now and they still can't hire enough people to fill the open roles. We finished the last big commercial order right when the truck showed up Friday. The weekend crew needs to finish the next one for Monday morning. the company was on the verge of bankruptcy a few years ago and they still can't seem to turn it around.","attachment":null,"posted":1709431957},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2705365,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2705068
Awesome.
>>2705095
Haven’t seen any up close but they seem best for a backyard type hive that you can collect honey from rather than a hobbyists or cottage/commercial operation. There are cheaper knock-offs on eBay invade you want to experiment with the type of hive before jumping in on hundreds and hundreds of bucks for a single Flow branded hive.
I might get one in the future as I wish to expand to various types of hives for fun and to compare/contrast.
>>2705132
Any information about the company and products you’re willing to divulge?
What’s it like there? How would you rate the products? What products do you all build there?","attachment":null,"posted":1709490127},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2705453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is it feasible to do totally plastic-free beekeeping and honey harvesting? Glass, metal, and wood implements only, not even plastic tubing or anything?","attachment":null,"posted":1709499619},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2705918,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"First harvest boys. What a journey","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709632992541220.jpg","filename":"IMG_8586.jpg"},"posted":1709632992},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2705919,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2705918
A small one, big one to come shortly","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709633060338070.jpg","filename":"IMG_8592.jpg"},"posted":1709633060},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2705920,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2705919","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709633123596460.jpg","filename":"IMG_8592.jpg"},"posted":1709633123},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2706185,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
Bees are based","attachment":null,"posted":1709698323},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2705920
>>2705919
>>2705918
Good on you anon.
Is this recent?","attachment":null,"posted":1709958303},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've been considering this but I can't make the cost work out. Although to be fair I'm not looking to profit, I just don't want to sink a lot of money into another hobby.
If I were to start, flow through or langstroth style? I really don't care about the intricacies and I just want pollinators more than I do honey, but honey would be an okay side benefit.
How much am I looking at for a hive box with everything needed plus a starter nuc?
What breed of bees is best? I live in NC, zone 7b.
I have about 40 fruit trees, several thousand sqft of garden space, my neighbor has a larger garden, and my yard abuts a field that we alternate tobacco / onions / wheat so there are always flowers growing in the waterways and field.
Can this be a "passive" thing? Like I really just don't care a lot about the beekeeping "hobby", I would just like the benefits of having a few hives for my plants. How much attention would 2 or 3 hives really need, absent a predator tearing the boxes open?","attachment":null,"posted":1709960353},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707292,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707254
What's your diy skills? Langston hi es are literally just 4 boards and some inserts. Buy the foundations and do the rest yourself and it'll be as cheap as your can scavenger together 3ish foot boards.
As far as passive. You can check them a few times a year. Any hive about to split and can put into the ones that have died or ran off.
You'll have to do a lot more hives to account for losses and disease pressure.
Or you could just rent out the space to a local beekeeper.","attachment":null,"posted":1709969404},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707408,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Even though it's naturally more quiet over winter, his thread is a bit sad, I wish we had more beekeepers here. It's a based hobby and good way to make friends.","attachment":null,"posted":1710015284},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707254
Read into Warré hives. You can easily DIY one with $20-30 of lumber and you dont even need to buy frames or wax foundations. Theres a 100 year old book by Warré "Beekeeping for all", that is obviously a bit outdated, but still very interesting. You'll find plenty of newer material about the Warré hive on the internet.
Other than that, you pretty much only need a smoker, veil and a hive tool. For bees, get in contact with local beekeepers near you. You should be able to start for under $200 easily.
It can be a very passive thing and you maybe open the hive 3 or 4 times a year and let them bee the rest of the time. You only check up if they are healthy, have mites or other problems, have enough food for the winter and take some honey if you want and there is surplus.","attachment":null,"posted":1710020474},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707441,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707436
P.S. you dont even really need a smoker. I mostly just spray them down with a little water from a handheld spraybottle with some added propolis. Makes them settle down and clean themselves up and they dont waste energy from going through an emergency response from the smoke. The smoker is really only needed if you've got very aggressive bees or want to do some work that will upset them a lot. So you can safe on that item if you want.
For bees, you can also set up some bee traps in spring. If there is any bees around you, there is a good chance you can get a swarm to move in on their own. You wont know the genetics, but its free bees. Its also possible a beekeeper will give you a swarm for cheap in the same time.
If that works out, you probably spend less than $100.","attachment":null,"posted":1710021165},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707469,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707441
I'd rather miss my veil suit than my smoker, water I only use for swarms. In my experience they don't really fuck off the edges with water, which makes things a lot more messy, plus where I'm from picrel is the prevalent smoker type, so I still have both hands free.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710026238209164.jpg","filename":"14000_Rauchblaeser_Filius_600x600.jpg"},"posted":1710026238},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707495,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707469
Fair. I use topbar hives, so I dont stack boxes with bees all over the edges. Just handle a frame at a time and I can easily nudge any bees out of the way when I put one back. So thats a bit of a different situation. I pretty much stopped using smoke unless they get very agitated.","attachment":null,"posted":1710034230},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707495
>topbar hives
these look interesting. Are you using them exclusively? How would you rate them against other types?
I might give one a shot, always stacking stuff like a retard gets annoying and the honey boxes are heavy, but I wouldn't like to give up the flexibility of my current system.
Also, do any of you guys make a profit or at least even out the expenses of your beekeeping?","attachment":null,"posted":1710036571},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707507
I like them a lot. When you open up a normal hive, you basically expose the whole colony in one go. With the top bar hive, you take out a frame at the edge and there is only that frame out of place. That means most of the bees have no idea whats going on and it stays a lot calmer. Means for me no smoke most of the time and often no veil either. It's also easy to quickly check in on a certain part of the hive with little hassle and yes, you never lift more than a single frame, which is nice. I also don't have to prepare and store full frames with foundations. For harvesting honey, its crushing the comb and letting it strain through a nutmilk bag. That means you can't give back the empty comb and get more honey quickly. That reduces the yield/hive, but balances out with fewer expenses. So if you want to maximize honey yield, you go with langstroht, but if you want to save on costs and work, top bar hives are really nice.
They are my only hives atm, but I want to build some Warrés soon. I like how you stack the new boxes on the bottom and they naturally build their comb down and fill the top with honey. Seems like it more closely resembles their natural building patterns. You got to stack boxed with that system though.
I'm not really keeping track of the finances, but it covers the costs. Not really serious about high yields and selling though.","attachment":null,"posted":1710037678},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707583,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707436
Not him but thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1710055810},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2707793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707249
Thanks yeah last week. Gonna harvest a big super this week if it’s all capped","attachment":null,"posted":1710107540},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Brothers. It was a glorious day.
We had our honey extracting equipment picked up and they were placed into storage along with all the swarm traps and excess hives.
But before that we were able to locate and paint two queens after searching for far too long. These two hives were worse for wear compared to the two other surviving hives from this winter, with one hive being only a single box. Despite mother nature’s attempts, these hives are starting to flourish and queens are reproducing at rapid rates already. One of the queens was laying in fresh comb on an blank frame. The bees haven’t even completed forming the comb before Queen started to lay in them lol.
Drones were already laid and are on the verge of hatching.
Also the bees have been making vibrant collages of nectar and pollen, all the foragers coming back are wasting bright assortments of amber, yellow, orange, and everything in between.
Also got myself a book on making stuff with beeswax.","attachment":null,"posted":1710378287},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2708607
That sounds so based. Isn't one box of bees plenty for winter? We have mostly carnica bees here and it's absolutely ridiculous how small their winter groups get. It looks pathetic, as if they're on death's door, but they're always powering through. I've overwintered some in mini nucs before lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1710381007},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708629,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just got raped opening the lid on one of my hives without a suit lmao. Wanted to show my friend my bees and they had drawn comb on the lid so I broke it when I cracked it open. Bee got stuck in my ear, luckily got it out five minutes later and it hadn’t stung my damn ear canal. 15 stings all over my head and arms. Lesson learned, sorry bees","attachment":null,"posted":1710384523},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708650,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2708629
Did you shriek like a little girl","attachment":null,"posted":1710393278},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2708650
No. The stings don’t really hurt and screaming isn’t gonna help. The ear rape was unpleasant though. My lip is swelling up","attachment":null,"posted":1710395872},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2708656
Have they been this aggressive before? I would nip that queen dude, this is unacceptable. And don't you use some kind of tarp under the lid?","attachment":null,"posted":1710416805},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2708708
I haven’t been beekeeping that long but no never when I’ve just cracked the lid. Breaking the comb connected from the lid to the frames was what did me in. Duly noted, I’ll put some ply between the super and the lid. I don’t mind if they’re a bit fiery, they’ve got varroa and beetles to fight off so it’s good for that. But I’m fine sitting next to the hives usually no problem. Just got a bit complacent I suppose","attachment":null,"posted":1710420795},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708799,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2708629
kek
What did your friend think about your bees?","attachment":null,"posted":1710436776},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708850,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2708799
He thought I was retarded. He did fish the bee out of my ear with some tweezers though, so I gave him some honey","attachment":null,"posted":1710450292},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708866,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2708656
I'm just going to imagine you did shriek repeatedly and at a hilarious pitch","attachment":null,"posted":1710453570},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2708988,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2708866
It’s your life","attachment":null,"posted":1710501063},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2709109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Who here /nativebee/?
>Several times more effective at pollination
>Never have to worry about them swarming away
>Only downside is no honey","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710534793566929.jpg","filename":"masonbeewasptube1.jpg"},"posted":1710534793},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2709242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709109
Your setup and things like carpenter bees are cool but the honey slavery can't be beat","attachment":null,"posted":1710566631},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2709265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709242
This exactly. You don't really "keep" wild bees, they're a neat accessoire at best because you can't work with them.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710576132648843.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240316_085832.jpg"},"posted":1710576132},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2709270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have some frames that are capped that I never was able to harvest, they're somewhat crystalized but liqud enough that I think I can extract them, would I be able to put them in an oven at like 120 to "soften em up" a bit?","attachment":null,"posted":1710579549},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2709386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'd like to take a minute and thank these fuzzy little fuckers.
Before (3/2)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710616749773040.jpg","filename":"20240303_120526.jpg"},"posted":1710616749},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2709387,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709386
2 weeks later, excellent if not excessive fruit set on 3 year old plums.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710616826107659.jpg","filename":"20240316_150330.jpg"},"posted":1710616826},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2710021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709387
>>2709386
Based","attachment":null,"posted":1710820011},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2710168,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This fucker?
A female (Queen) Rostrote Mauerbiene.
Started showing up in my garden place about 10 days ago.
There was about 6 days of orgies where they where fucking on the table right in front of me.
Now the males are mostly gone and it's just fat queens closely inspecting all the holes, made for screws, in my outdoors furniture.
Sorry, mediocre English, situated in central Europe.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710872441260703.jpg","filename":"IMG20240319171701.jpg"},"posted":1710872441},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2710479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710168
Obacht: Nur female, nicht queen - weil sie nicht staatenbildend sind. Cool, dass du so viele hast, das sind wirklich legendäre Bestäuber.","attachment":null,"posted":1710954727},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2711826,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The sweetness this harvest is knocking my socks off","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711263788593019.jpg","filename":"IMG_4087.jpg"},"posted":1711263788},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2712427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710479
Thanks for the info!
Status is that I have at least four females hanging out. Three around the table and its holes, one in the rolled up "Rollo" for the garden place.
Not exactly sure what they do down there, nothing much to see yet. But it's also at the bottom of the table, so my main source of information is my phone camera in selfie mode.
One of the visited holes is like 20cm from where my leg usually is. No problem though, I'm very bee friendly. And apparently not interesting at all, they almost never land on me and go straight for their holes.
It's really hard to take pictures, because they're either flying or under the table. Pic related is from last year, a female I assume. The males have a white spot front on their head.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711382461861734.jpg","filename":"IMG20230325142131__01__01.jpg"},"posted":1711382461},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2712448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Opened some hives to mark queens and check status of brood.
Turns out both were already marked, one of which has a yellow dot. Rest are pajeet-like with red dots.
Drones are in full swing and there is capped drones in every nook and cranny.
Also got myself a wax dipped soon boxes to see how they will compare to a typical white painted box and a polystyrene box but I need to go back to the store to exchange the bottom board with one of the angles/elevated bottom boards with the bottom screen.
Also saw a couple potential Queen cells in the making but they could just be drone cells since the hive still has some blank grams to build more comb on.","attachment":null,"posted":1711385901},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2712469,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
I just got my first house and I'm really excited to start working towards bees in the backyard. My city requires you take a course and get some bee mentors. My wife and I have a couple of older friends lined up as our mentors. I'm focus on starting the garden this year, but my preliminary bee research is getting me really excited, so hopefully I can get going next year.","attachment":null,"posted":1711389007},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2712628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712469
Congrats on the house, Anon. Bees are just an absolute delight to work with. Cute, funny, hardworking and smart. Truly the thinking man's animal.
I like rearing queens even more than honey. And just in case: don't fall for the flowhive meme, I haven't tried it myself, but I don't hear good things about them.","attachment":null,"posted":1711406154},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2712692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712628
Thanks! I feel a little guilty about wanting honeybees rather than something native, but I'd really like to be able to gather some honey and beeswax. And yeah as far as as flowhives go, I'm inherently skeptical of anything that looks like it's promising to take away a bunch of the work. Would you recommend warre hives?","attachment":null,"posted":1711415411},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2712772,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712692
Yes, it's awkward when people think we are "saving the bees"...
Warré are okay but if I were to start again, I'd just copy my mentor's system the first few seasons. They have an entirely different work strategy, I think it's only a good idea if you find a guy who uses them.","attachment":null,"posted":1711441229},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2713029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710168
Amusing","attachment":null,"posted":1711515807},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2713043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712692
If your concerned about native pollinators, why not include some native bee houses on your property and actively grow a wildflower garden? I have a few beehouses on my property and have never had issues with my bees :)","attachment":null,"posted":1711523863},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2713224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713043
Good idea, I wanted to grow more native plants in place of empty grass anyways.","attachment":null,"posted":1711580868},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2713861,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"gonna be working on the space I'm gonna set up my hive today bros. Got some bees ordered from a local place and will have them sometime next month. First hive, pretty excited","attachment":null,"posted":1711808505},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2713994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's feeding time. I helped my dad setup feeders in each hive (there are 50 of them). He clipped 3 queens (all of them were older than 2 years old there was this one is from 2019 which is equal to 500years in human scale) and there are 2 more hives to be clipped in the upcoming days. The hive that their queen retired have enough daily eggs to prepare queen candidates that's what we hope at least. Overall turnaround of this season was good there are maybe 4-5 weak hives that are concerning but we'll see. Up until mid may hives will be fed twice a week.","attachment":null,"posted":1711833693},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2714123,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713861
good luck buddy, learn to do your mite checks and make sure you have all your equipment ready.
I'm about to get my bees out of wintermode and take off their cozies. we are still getting snow where my bees are at.","attachment":null,"posted":1711863906},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2714124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713861
also consider getting another one if you can afford it. When you're first learning its really helpful to have two hives to compare to each other or to borrow resources *if* the doner is strong enough.","attachment":null,"posted":1711864032},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2714531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713861
Godspeed anon
>>2713994
This is remarkable
>>2714124
Good advice?","attachment":null,"posted":1711941961},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2715132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Midwest anons, depending on your hive setups and how many you have, it would be best to not only weight your hives down with rocks or bricks but to also strap them down. We have permanent fixed stands they can all be strapped down in times of very windy weather in addition bricks and rocks.
Don’t assume your hives will be fine, even if you’re insured or have your hives registered with the USDA’s bee keeping program.","attachment":null,"posted":1712080935},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2715318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2714123
>>2714124
thanks anon! Just gonna start with one but I'm not opposed to getting another hive pretty quickly. I've got a question though, since bees sleep(very cute) would it be bad that there would be artificial uplighting on a nearby tree shining on the hive at night right? id assume so and everything I've read points to this being the case. I've got no issues removing the light but I was curious what you guys think on the matter","attachment":null,"posted":1712101884},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2715671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715132
Wind sucks","attachment":null,"posted":1712201646},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2715708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715318
Bees navigate via the sun so it might be disruptive to them depending on the light and how intense it is. You wont interrupt their rest since the hive is enclosed but its more about them thinking its daytime. Bees are pretty smart though so if its like a porch lamp you'll probably be okay. It might be less disruptive if you ensure the entrance is facing away from the light and in shadow.","attachment":null,"posted":1712216281},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2715805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
How to get started?","attachment":null,"posted":1712244408},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2715999,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715805
I started just by watching a ton of youtube videos on beekeeping. if you can find a mentor that would be better but theres a lot of avenues
beekeeping classes, beekeeping books (The beekepers bible), youtube. There really is a lot of resources out there. Check your state laws if they have any requirements. Beekeeping isnt really that technical and you learn a lot just by handling them.","attachment":null,"posted":1712267937},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2716038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715805
Start by keeping two hives no more no less. Add up as you gain knowledge and experience. Read a book about honeybee biology & colonial workflow.","attachment":null,"posted":1712274519},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2716580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715805
Get bees","attachment":null,"posted":1712383752},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718001,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Novice beekeeper here, I was going through one of my three hives that I had noticed had less activity at the entrance. It has one super, which was nearly full of honey, and the brood box was also mostly full of honey, couldn’t see any brood. I noticed one emergency queen cell and couldn’t find the queen (not sure how old she would be because I got the hive off someone else who didn’t know). The hive has pretty strong numbers. Should I buy a new queen for the hive or let them lay a new one?","attachment":null,"posted":1712639942},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718009,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718001
If there is no brood at all, the queen is probably gone for a while already the the queen cell might not have a larvae inside. Easiest solution would be to give them a frame with fresh eggs from on of your other hives and they'll rear a new queen from that.
You can of cause just buy a queen if you prefer spending money. Advantage would be that you'd get new brood faster.","attachment":null,"posted":1712642550},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718034,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718009
Oh that’s a good idea, I definitely don’t have a lot of money to spare at the moment. Hopefully a brood frame works, there’s plenty of big healthy bees in there for now. Should I just check back in on the hive weekly after adding a frame of brood to check for a capped queen cell?","attachment":null,"posted":1712649537},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718034
If the hive is strong, they'll do it. Giving them a nice brood frame also gives them some new workers in the time frame they don't have their own hatching. Yes to keeping and eye on it. You want to be sure the new queen mated successfully and starts laying eggs. Once you see open queen cells and a few days later new eggs, everything's fine, even if you dont find the queen.
You could even use the opportunity to get a few extra queens/colonies. They'll make a couple of queen cells. If you leave them, the first one hatching will kill the others. If you put a few frames with food and workers in a new box and add a queen cell, you get a new colony with a young queen.","attachment":null,"posted":1712677115},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718151,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone have experience with horizontal hives? Every colony I’ve put in one gets angry af.","attachment":null,"posted":1712680497},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718134
Thankyou for your advice","attachment":null,"posted":1712690214},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718216
np, let us know how it works out.
>>2718151
what kind? what are the dimensions?","attachment":null,"posted":1712694309},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718326,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"When you split do you have them hatch their own queen or buy one? I'm doing my first split soon and I'm leaning toward hatching","attachment":null,"posted":1712710612},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718400,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718326
You can do either. Having them hatch their own is generally fine if you're okay with the 2-3 week gap. Just make sure you're on top of it so they don't go worker laying.
Buying a queen isn't too expensive and you generally get better control on decent genetics rather than rolling the dice. I buy queens because it's easier and in a worst case they'll make their own.","attachment":null,"posted":1712734575},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718433,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718326
I buy because the area is full of subhuman beekepers and their aggressive bees. I want to work without protection so I need to have at least some knownledge on the queen.","attachment":null,"posted":1712750528},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718237
Got a good frame in there, about 60% brood, plenty of eggs. Hopefully it works","attachment":null,"posted":1712810849},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718979,"name":"sage goes in all fields","msg":">>2718694
you'll know pretty quickly if it takes. You might want to borrow another frame of brood from your donor hive in a week or so just to make sure the brood pheremones are present","attachment":null,"posted":1712867737},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2718983,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718979
I left my sage on, good luck with your split","attachment":null,"posted":1712868400},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2719051,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661133
I caught a swarm 10 days ago with a hive i bought on Amazon.","attachment":null,"posted":1712885419},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2719083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719051
Here they are moving in.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712895161434111.jpg","filename":"IMG_0747.jpg"},"posted":1712895161},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2719095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719083
Cute","attachment":null,"posted":1712899059},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2719113,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719083
make sure to keep them in quarantine for a while to make sure they're not carrying afb or any other nasties, congrats on the free hive","attachment":null,"posted":1712905066},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2719170,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719095
>>2719113
Thanks! It’s my first time doing this so I’m gonna baby it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712931380},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2719215,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"picking up my nuc tomorrow.
Bump!","attachment":null,"posted":1712940464},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2719405,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719215
im still waiting on a call from the people I ordered a nuc from in town. Should be sometime this month, very jealous that you are getting yours though anon!","attachment":null,"posted":1712980513},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2720621,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719215
Godspeed","attachment":null,"posted":1713237362},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2721950,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719215
Any luck?","attachment":null,"posted":1713500871},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2722599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657289
Dead?","attachment":null,"posted":1713649173},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2722602,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2703397
>illegal","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713649847435273.png","filename":"awkchsjwh.png"},"posted":1713649847},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2722961,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So what's the matter with flow hives?","attachment":null,"posted":1713736906},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2723114,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722961
You will not get nearly as much honey as you should. Shit design for the meme keeper.","attachment":null,"posted":1713765957},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2723265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723114
Well it's either a flow hives or warre hive for what I've been looking at.","attachment":null,"posted":1713799349},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724165,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hi /hive/. What have you done to help the nesting of wild honey bee species' to improve their population numbers? Because, after all, it is the wild species that are generally threatened and NOT the prototypical honey bees, which are farmed.","attachment":null,"posted":1713986223},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724165
Aren't euro wild bees at this point mostly interbred with human-cultivated ones? Euros have been cultivating bees for more than a millennia and shaping the local populations","attachment":null,"posted":1714106558},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724706,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2699965
As a rule of thumb, avoid the paler honeys if you're buying store-bought honey?","attachment":null,"posted":1714133381},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724706
Forgiveness, didn't see >>2699965
OK, is it necessary to test (like bloodwork or something) to determine if you're allergic to bees before taking further steps into beekeeping? I've been stung before as a kid, and didn't bloat up and die, but are there any standardized bloodwork tests out there? If so what is the test called and can any testing center do it?
I'd just like to have some scientific backup here before I commit to a new career/hobby.
Also how do anons with domestic pets get along with bees? Like outdoor cats, are they smart enough to leave bees alone or would it be an issue?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714133895886165.jpg","filename":"1620555115223.jpg"},"posted":1714133895},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724718,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724708
If you keep bees my personal advice would be to get an epipen (or any generic) either way. If you didn't have extreme reactions to bees before, I wouldn't say an allergy test is completely necessary, you can of course still do one, it will be a simple prick test. Just go to your general physician, either he can do one himself or you will be referred to a specialist, it should be fairly straightforward.
Anyway, back to the epipen: Being a hobby keeper, you will be exposed to bee venom more than some random guy, but less than a pro. This puts you at the highest risk of developing such allergies, I know people who suddenly got them after years without issues. It's smart to have epinephrine nearby if that ever happens to you or your family. Anyone will have more or less pronounced local swelling in the beginning, but when your body breaks out in hives or your breathing changes, it's time to act.
I try to give myself at least one weekly sting throughout the year to lower the chances.
Oh, and most pets will either intuitively avoid the bees or learn their lesson once.","attachment":null,"posted":1714137022},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723265
From what I heard of people using them, they "work", but are kind of an expensive gimmick. It's probably ok to get one for the memes, if you dont care about spending that money, but I really would not base an apiary around them.
>>2724634
Wild honey bees are practically non-existent in europe. It's just too easy to change their genetics in a wide scale by breeding and swapping out queens and yhe dense settlement and logging of old growth forest has greatly reduced their natural habitat in hollow trees. You can find an occasional feral swarm, but they will likely have genetics of domestic lines. These days, they also have a hard time surviving varoa without a beekeeper treating them.
There are still wild populations of honey bees in asia and africa.","attachment":null,"posted":1714154087},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724828,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724718
Thanks bro. Epipen sounds like a great idea. Can you do a monthly sting instead?","attachment":null,"posted":1714156679},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724832,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724816
What about a warre style of hive, it appeals to me to mess with the bees as little as possible and to let them live their own lives until harvest time.","attachment":null,"posted":1714157209},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724836,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724828
Tbh I'm not exactly sure in the optimal amount, you don't really "need" to do it at all, but I work without gloves anyway so it usually happens by itself, at least during the season. Personally, I think it's a great idea, it also helped me to stay calm and never drop a frame when I get stung all of a sudden.","attachment":null,"posted":1714157656},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724832
Yes, warre is absolutely recommendable. Probably one of the closest designs to them living in a hollow tree, while still being able to work on the bees. They can naturally build down and you remove the oldest comb with a harvest.
They will produce less than with a commercial langstroht setup, but that is greatly offset by reduced materials and work. In doubt just add hives until you are happy with workload/harvest.","attachment":null,"posted":1714157664},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714159755380133.jpg","filename":"imagejpeg_1.jpg"},"posted":1714159755},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2724909,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724837
I'm not really too concerned with huge harvest volume, i figure if I get 5 boxes I would have 2 or 3 per year for myself and my family and at about 25lbs per box of honey I would think that would be well more than what we need.","attachment":null,"posted":1714171514},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2725683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724846
This is lovely anon","attachment":null,"posted":1714369154},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2726261,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724718
I just wear a full suit and never get stung. I would rather - and used to - just wear a veil, but since switching to all pol-line VSH resistant queens my hives get very aggressive once I start pulling frames. I can hang out directly in front of them all day and they act as if I'm not there, but once I open them up and start pulling frames they get real pissed. For me it's worth it to not have to do varroa treatments.","attachment":null,"posted":1714491215},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2726266,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725683","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714493189404183.jpg","filename":"imagejpeg_1.jpg"},"posted":1714493189},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2726269,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714493602659069.jpg","filename":"imagejpeg_0.jpg"},"posted":1714493602},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2726270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714493706335342.jpg","filename":"imagejpeg_1.jpg"},"posted":1714493706},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2726881,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726270
>>2726269
Nice bees and blanket","attachment":null,"posted":1714618797},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2727013,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"got my bees in yesterday and only got stung twice for my troubles. I left a little sugar water in the space between the roof and inner cover but idk if they are gonna figure out to go up from the queen box through the super to find it. How long does it usually take bees to get situated? I got them all in last night around 8 and saw them starting to come out and buzz around the hive this morning","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714661918979693.jpg","filename":"1000028213.jpg"},"posted":1714661918},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2727229,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727013
they'll find it no problem. try to avoid spillages and leakages though as it can encourage robbing behavior from other hives. Do you actually have a feeder or is it just spillage? If you dont have a feeder, Id reccomend getting one. I personally like the frame feeders the best.
If your pic is your bees, rotate your entrance reducer so its the smallest entry and start with only one deep. If you are using the second box to hold your feeder, thats fine, but only have frames in the bottom box. You need them to draw out that comb, add the second box/frames when the first box is about 70% full. You need to feed them with a 1:1 sugar water mix (by weight) to encourage them to draw out comb.
They will get oriented pretty quickly depending on the age of your bees. Does your queen have a candy plug?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714690207013431.jpg","filename":"BM-00178-View-1024.jpg"},"posted":1714690207},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2727231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724708
>>2724718
I have an epipen, not for me, but for anyone on my property. they last a few years so its a good "just in case"","attachment":null,"posted":1714690395},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2727242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727229
ya these are my bees. I've already got a mated queen in there. Bought these bees as a 5 frame nuc to get started and this hive is pretty young. Don't have a queen candy plug because the queen is just cruising around the queen box. A feeder frame would be good, I'll order one because I checked and my bees did not find the sugar water up top. Why should I reduce the entrance of the hive? Also what is a normal amount of bees to be hanging out in the front of your hive? I had quite a few hanging out outside not really doing anything today. Can't figure out if they are just overheated or confused at where they are since I just dropped them here. Thanks for all the advice anon, I'm new to this","attachment":null,"posted":1714691890},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2727245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727242
If you started from a nuc, the need to feed is reduced if they have stores since they're not starting with nothing (I would still feed though until the honey flow. They'll stop taking the feed once they get in their swing of things)
You should do the smallest entrance untill your hive is fully established (2 boxes full of bees). Your hive is very weak right now since they just started so they're in the "establishing" phase. By using the smallest entrance if makes it much more defendable.
Based on your picture, that looks very normal activity depending on the time of day and the weather, if its in the evening, they are getting ready for night time or if its cold, they just dont like to go out. If you started from a nuc, remember too that your hive likely started from a split off a bigger hive, so you probably have a larger ratio of younger bees who wont leave the hive, which warrants a feeder. You should see more activity pick up over the next two weeks as the current generation ages up and gets oriented to your location. As long as your queen is laying eggs and they got food, they're good.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714693080139518.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-02 173549.png"},"posted":1714693080},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2727514,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2661608
>>2661609
Gasoline","attachment":null,"posted":1714754935},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2727518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727245
that picture was taken right when I put them in. Yesterday there was probably 10X the amount of bees on the front by the afternoon. You are probably right that it has alot to do with their life cycle and most aren't old enough to be foraging a ton, but I also think it may have been a bit of a heat issue. I may need to start putting up an umbrella to stave off the afternoon heat for them. What's the best way to treat them for mites and beetles btw?","attachment":null,"posted":1714756440},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2727633,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"mann lake anon here. pic related is roughly 50 million bees (4200 3lb packages, ~10-15k bees per package). They arrived in the middle of the night and I heard they shipped them today. Local people picking them up Saturday.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714785024716471.png","filename":"1714128999936.png"},"posted":1714785024},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2727696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2658034
i feed them sugar
winter is quite long here and sugar makes them poo less than honey does
would like to feed them honey though, but as theyve tended to shit in the hive early spring ive found sugar to be better for them","attachment":null,"posted":1714802745},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2728038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727633
Based jitney operator.","attachment":null,"posted":1714863938},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2728060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727633
>10tons of bees
not bad, thanks for sharing","attachment":null,"posted":1714866003},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2728196,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727518
How hot is your climate? I'm in the rockies where the summers are easily 110 degree at its peak and they're fine. The cue that they're too hot is if they're bearding (e.g. sitting in front fanning their wings trying to cool the hive), sort of looks like picrelated. If they are bearding you can swap your bottom board to a screened bottom board and that will get them some circulation. Its very likely your bees are doing their orientation flights as they're getting used to their new home
Hive beetles aren't a problem in my climate so you'll need to do your homework there, from what I understand dealing with the beetles has a lot to do with prevention and setting up traps and preventing them from getting a foothold. Do your research,
as far as Varroa mites goes, learn how to do the powder roll test and the alcohol bath test (alcohol bath is lethal to the 100 bees so I prefer powder). Your bees are probably fine for now, but you should do a test for varroa at least once a month and treat if they breach threshold (2-3% or 2 mites per 100 bees) (https://www.instructables.com/Sugar-Coated-Honey-Bees-or-How-To-Test-for-Varroa-/). I typically have to treat at least once a year during the fall and I use formic pro strips cause they're easy, but there are a bunch of other options, some you can treat with your honey supers, others need the supers to be removed.
Learn how to spot for other conditions too, things like European Foul Brood, Nosema, Tracheal mites, chalkbrood, etc. They each have their own symptoms and ways you can treat. The big one you should learn are the signs and symptoms of American Foul Brood, which unless your bees are vaccinated unfortunately requires you to euthanize and burn your hives. My state (utah) requires us to register our hives and we get notices if there is a AFB outbreak in our area, (we had a scare last year but all my hives were unaffected fortunately) but if your hives get it, you gotta act fast.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714884167074953.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-04 222634.png"},"posted":1714884167},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2728199,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I got stung on the face today, I was checking to make sure the queen I bought for a split got released properly, I finished boxing up the hive and left for 30 minutes and came back with a level to make sure it was still fine and had my hood down. She either was just coming in hot and I was in the way or she was just pissed as fuck but she got me on the chin. I might have to give my suit a vinegar bath since Im thinking my mere presence tilted her (they're not typically aggressive right off the bat)
>>2727518
speaking of level, this is important, make sure your hives are generally level. I made that mistake on my first hive and it caused me a ton of problems for a while cause they drew out their comb on the empty frames wierd and it took forever for them to correct it. (drawing comb is very difficult for the bees, so if they can do it right the first time the better)
>>2727633
imagine the ambient bzzzzzzzzzz","attachment":null,"posted":1714884764},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2728214,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727633
Wild photo","attachment":null,"posted":1714889541},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2728265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Haven’t posted in some weeks. Lot of changes for the better. We built swarm traps, placed them in all sort of places around the county. there is no shortage of older folks who want nothing to do with swarming bees.
Put together more boxes, nucs, frames, and including wax frame and bettercomb foundations to see how well the work. We typically use plastic foundations but either get them already coated or coat them in beeswax ourselves. Either way, we got our hands full now.
Recently we drove to some place in Northern Ohio to pick up some packages of bees and queens. All of them are of the Saskatraz variety. packages were placed into new boxes with frames, some of which have some comb built onto them or are waxed. The all have some sorts of feeders, either frame feeder or top feeders. Queens went to hives that either swarmed (most were caught), had older queens that need to be replaced, or went to captured swarms or trap outs that need queens to keep genetics in line with this group of hives.
We also have nucs that got swarms from traps and trap outs, a couple of which were from our hives. Nucs that needed queens got them. We tried to salvage old queens or when possible but with some effect as only few bees cared to accompany them.
Did I mention swarm traps? yeah we got a lot, they’re everywhere and they’re are cheating. The shere amount of swarms we have caught so far is nothing short of amazing. I would like to say our methods are sound but it has also be ~20°F/7°C above regular temperatures so flowers as blooming and bees are breeding like mad.
it’s gotten to a point where we’re low on boxes, nucs, swarm traps and are almost out of frames. i had to pick up 50 the other day as we only had about 4 left with all others in use.
I lost count but we jumped from 5 hives to over 20 in the matter of days, with more to come as we have around 6-8 swarm traps with bees and a number of people with bees that need to have them removed from their properties.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714913285628241.jpg","filename":"IMG_0123.jpg"},"posted":1714913285},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2728268,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728265
sorry if my post is somewhat illegible.
New phone, new proportions, new keyboard layout, new autocorrect. Grammar and spelling nightmare trying to type even the most simple of sentences.
Also 20 might not be the most truthful. we have most hives at the farm, but we have a smaller farm down the road we’re putting hives and nucs as we ran out of space at the main farm, this is where most feral swarms will go. Our small bee keeping unit also has a third person involved, any captured swarms near our farms are taken to his place sad he lives just farm enough to deter any bees fucking off back to their original locations. We place nucs on one side of his property and he gets captured swarms from near us placed his hive rows while we get ones near him. He also has the honey extraction equipment and excess bee keeping stuff stored as well. His approach is less in involvement due to work and scheduling issues and being more wooded in tandem with that results in his hives developing beetle issues, where one of our hives will have 1 or 2 at most while one of his can get 6 or 7 on a given day!
All of our hives combined are now 30+. I can only imagine what it will look like this time next year. We’ve been in the game for a short time, we don’t even know how to extract honey and wax yet but only a few hives right now hard topped with honey supers. We’re also curious on how effective different hives will work, we have a combination of wood, BetterBee polystyrene hives, and some apimayes. The apimayes and better bees were chosen over a few other brands in terms
of cost/capabilites. We ruled out a HiveIQ and some Finnish brand hive too but we will use them when needed. While many here will probably scoff at these plastic based hives, they do offer better protections in extreme temperature compared to wood hives but we’re not abandoned wood!
I could go on and on but i’m so hap-bee.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714914395054515.jpg","filename":"IMG_0056.jpg"},"posted":1714914395},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2729436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"saw my bees finally bringing back some nectar today! I guess they finally got orientated to the area. I'm very excited, I love my bees!","attachment":null,"posted":1715126737},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2730070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Nobody told me becoming a beekeeper will make you deathly allergic to bees. I’ve only been stung about 4-5 times spaced years apart and last month I was stung and I had to call an ambulance because I was stiff, swollen and gasping for air on the floor. I could not drive myself to the ER.
I’m very disappointed. I never thought this would happen to me. Has anyone else experienced this?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715253205090313.gif","filename":"IMG_8072.gif"},"posted":1715253205},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2730087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730070
>Nobody told me becoming a beekeeper will make you deathly allergic to bees.
That's cause it doesn't. Regular stings will give you more antibodies against bee venom. Only the venom part though, so the acid will still hurt you. Just not as much. For me, that usually means some swelling for a day instead of the 4 days of swelling I used toget in the beginning.
If you're already allergic though, the higher amount of antibodies will aggravate your allergy. In that case, get treatment. There's exposure therapy (basically applying extremely diluted venom regularly) that'll cure it, but I can't tell you if that approach is suitable for you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715258772},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2730289,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730087
It does thougheverbeit. You can see this yourself from the first few stings of a new season, the body will react much more severely compared to the last sting/ a few weeks down the line.
Tolerance builds up anew, which means it is only temporary and that is why you can absolutely randomly develop an allergy one day.","attachment":null,"posted":1715298199},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2730380,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729436
Congrats","attachment":null,"posted":1715315562},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2730382,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730070
sorry to hear that, glad you're alright. if you plan on keeping bees still, consider an epipen","attachment":null,"posted":1715316360},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2731178,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730380
saw them dragging out dead bees from the move finally as well. seems like they are settled in now, tons of foragers coming back with nectar now. It hard to not just sit there and stare at them going in and of the hive for hours. Seeing all those little bugs have so much purpose is so cool","attachment":null,"posted":1715526982},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2731299,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"what's the best solution for beetles in my hive?","attachment":null,"posted":1715550993},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2731459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2657231
Cute thread","attachment":null,"posted":1715575965},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2731517,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731299
Dedicate traps for hive beetles as small rags to put into corners. Bees will usually try to attack/sting the beetles to no avail and will often push them into corners. Beetles that will lay eva’s will crawl to thr front entrance and fall onto the ground and lay eggs in the vicinity of your hive so depending on how bad your hive has beetles it might be worth your time to kill off any vegetation at the front of your hive or use a heavy mat to cover the soil to make it harder for beetles to reproduce and spread. Beetles will usually prefer weaker hives that are in more wooded/shaded areas. Depending on the genetics of your hive might be best to replace any weak queens or not switch any frames around from infected hives in the meantime.
Once your hive population goes up and is healthy, in addition to any treatments and preventative measures, beetle populations should minimize or outright go away. When checking your hives, one or two beetles every once in a while shouldn’t too much go a cause for concern but finding multiple beetles every time you open your hive should warrant intervention.
Hive beetles aren’t as bad as mite infestations but they are a problem that should absolutely be addressed if you have any care or consideration for the well being of your bees and any sort of honey/wax cultivation.","attachment":null,"posted":1715591760},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2731572,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724165
>>2724634
Wild honeybees are different from wild solitary bees, which actually are under threat, and those don't interbreed with honeybees. Apis Mellifera doesn't really need saving, and anyone who's trying to sell you some honeybee related equipment and telling you'll be SaVIng dE BeEs is a snakeoil selling niggermechant.
The black honey bee, or AMM is a little different and could use some help, but it's pretty much impossible to raise purebred honeybees in the US, as most beeks ship their hives to California for almonds, and that works better with italian type breeds, whose genes then get propagated much wider than it should.
If you want to help wild bees, do what >>2709109 does, or just don't be a HOA niggerslave and stop mowing your lawn every week.","attachment":null,"posted":1715606766},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2731573,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724846
>>2726266
Cute and wholesome. I need to paint mine as well. Its said that blue and yellow color works best for beehives, and even increases producrivity, as bees are able to clearly distinguish those colors, and find their home faster.","attachment":null,"posted":1715607065},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2732834,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"it's been super hot these past couple of days and it's pretty normal for the bees to be out on the front of the hive just hanging out to cool down, but lately at night they've been hanging out on the outside still. When I woke up this morning they had mostly gone back inside(sans the ones grouped up on the handle) but it is a little concerning. At night it's still a little warm, should I be worried about this many bees hanging out on the outside or should I stop being a baby about it?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715909535363507.jpg","filename":"937259C1-1319-4878-9652-FCB671DE9446.jpg"},"posted":1715909535},{"board":"out","thread":2657231,"pid":2732843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"New thread: >>2732841","attachment":null,"posted":1715911026}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2709914,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Modernity is so goddamn gay, decades ago you could hitchhike easily and truckers would pick you up really fast, nowadays they aren't even legally allowed to pick you because laws, company policies and insurance garbage.
And this is just an example of many, as we move forward and as the population grows things get worse /out/ wise.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710795876602833.jpg","filename":"6318ece1fac47632c020afcd4a7c982f.jpg"},"posted":1710795876},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2709920,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
If you aren't living in an /out/ area then you already failed.","attachment":null,"posted":1710796655},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2709937,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
The new legislation is there to protect hitchhikers from those rampant rapists that call themselves lorry drivers. Doesn’t matter if you’re a man or a woman, you’ll get raped (and probably murdered) either way.","attachment":null,"posted":1710801343},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2709939,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
If you're so determined to suck off truckers just go to Loves like the other homos","attachment":null,"posted":1710801465},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2709942,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
It was actually a conspiracy by the FBI. The DOT didn’t want people hitchhiking on the interstate when it was being expanded in the 60’s. So other than passing laws, the FBI promoted a few kidnapping cases. Even though it was super rare, they managed to inject the idea into the cultural milieu. Now everyone thinks it’s dangerous based on old wives tales.
The irony is that it’s had the same effect on people who are psychotic, so while they might have just ignored bitch hitchhikers previously, crazy maniacs are now probably more likely to pick them up and try to harm them.","attachment":null,"posted":1710801712},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2710062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
Yeah I worked in a major tourest place and we had ATVs that we used to get around, there would be so many hotties walking up the hills and they would always want to hitch a ride but we weren't allowed to give them a lift. Come to think of it, I should have just done it ffs what a fag.","attachment":null,"posted":1710836926},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2710065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why would a woman need to hitchhike? Doesn't she have anyone to drive her?","attachment":null,"posted":1710837465},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2710167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
You got filtered. You don't deserve freedom.","attachment":null,"posted":1710871878},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2710169,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
>a highwayman wrote this post","attachment":null,"posted":1710872878},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2710376,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"this thread is retarded. if you own your own truck what's stopping you from picking people up. I see people literally hitchiking all the time on a local highway. "laws, company policies and insurance garbage" is such a broad statement and doesn't mean shit. you probably are just making a guess and don't have any real idea of what it is","attachment":null,"posted":1710922535},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2711460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
Spoken as someone who's never hitchhiked. Yeah, it used to be easier, but as long as you
>aren't on a highway where it's illegal
>are in a state where it's legal
>don't look like a murder hobo
>are willing to wait a few hours
You'll get a ride. My other pro tip is to travel with a girl because drivers won't be as intimidated by you.","attachment":null,"posted":1711193916},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2711486,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711460
>Spoken as someone who's never hitchhiked.
I literally hitchhiked in 3 different countries by now and never got a trucker to stop. So don't, don't fucking tell me I'm wrong when my personal experience and actual laws contradict your opinion.","attachment":null,"posted":1711204252},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2711506,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
The worst thing you have to deal with in hitchhiking is state troopers, and even then it's only the state troopers in states with stricter laws, most of them won't give a flying fuck, some will actually give you a ride to the edge of their jurisdiction, and some are just straight dicks that will move you to some backroad for you to walk for the next 6hrs. Know the laws of each state when hitchhiking, it goes a long way, but if you want to meet people from different backgrounds then hitchhiking is the way to do it, just be respectful and try not to act like a dick.
>>2709937
Wrong. I've hitchiked all over the states, had nothing but good experiences. The world isn't as fearful as some may lead you to believe, the worst experience I've had was just listening to people rant about 9/11 and even that wasn't so bad.
>>2709942
The Propoganda has done more to harm peoples perceptions of the world then anything else, most people are afraid of just about everything.","attachment":null,"posted":1711207511},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2711507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711486
I've gotten 2 trucker rides in the states, almost 3 but he was heading in a different direction. The reason they don't stop is because most truck drivers are corporate these days and they have so many regulations to follow they will get fined or worse if they're caught, and they also have cameras in their vehicles to insure the employees are following orders. However, drivers that own their own truck/business/route have no issue giving out rides, it's rare but it happens, and they tend to be real bros.","attachment":null,"posted":1711207664},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2711518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711486
Someone's upset. Where did I say I was talking about truckers, and why do they matter so much to you? I've had no problem getting where I need to go by riding with private cars or work trucks, not semi tractors. Unless you're just craving a taste of a big meaty trucker, in which case it's a free country and you can do what you want.","attachment":null,"posted":1711208683},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2711531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why would anyone even want to hitchhike? Walking along highways begging for rides doesn’t sound cool or fun at all. Want to travel? Just drive. No car? Get a plane, train, or bus ticket. No money? Get a job and travel after you’ve made some.","attachment":null,"posted":1711211525},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2711533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711531
You can use hitchhiking to travel to a place where you're going to make some money, it's a great way to meet new people, a lot of people here in the states just straight up give you cash. You can use it to network, get to know the area you're heading towards, find jobs. It's not a permanent thing, but it's better then being a Home-Bum","attachment":null,"posted":1711211889},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2713420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711533
>great way to meet new people
>You can use it to network
Your idea of networking and meeting new people is to wander along the road until a Russian or Indian truck driver, who isn't fluent in English, picks you up and gives you a ride to some random arbitrary destination.
Bruh.","attachment":null,"posted":1711660054},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2713528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
>decades ago you could hitchhike easily and truckers would pick you up really fast
This is a lie.
t. hitchhiked in the 90s","attachment":null,"posted":1711691725},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2713529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711531","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711691798328138.jpg","filename":"Job.jpg"},"posted":1711691798},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2715221,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
Throw your computer in the trash, then.","attachment":null,"posted":1712092956},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2715232,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"If you are somewhere /out/ then you'll get picked up. More city then call yourself an uber.","attachment":null,"posted":1712095296},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2715428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713528
The 90's was already post serial killer media craze and satanic panic erosion of trust. Even you were too late.","attachment":null,"posted":1712135676},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2715560,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I visited Poland back in 1977 with my ex-pat parents and my older cousin drove us around in his Polski Fiat taxi and I was regularly seeing people walking down the road holding up a piece of white paper with a large red dot on it. I asked him what it was and he said it was a hitchhiking voucher. Seems people could buy pads of these vouchers and when someone gave them a ride, you gave the driver the voucher which they could redeem at gas stations.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712177728195503.jpg","filename":"Polski Fiat-125p.jpg"},"posted":1712177728},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2717854,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715560
What was the point of the voucher?","attachment":null,"posted":1712606997},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2717929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715560
interesting but could only find this:
https://wildeast.blog/en/hitchhiking-in-poland/","attachment":null,"posted":1712620760},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2717996,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715428
I hitch hiked across Canada and back twice in the 90s. In the 5-10 years I was active hitch hiking, I was picked up twice by truckers. One of them was an moron and I bailed after 30 minutes. The other guy was really chill but explained to me that a rig takes far to long to come to a stop to make it worth while to pick up a hitch hiker. If you want to get a lift on a rig, you have to ask them when they are stopped - for instance, just coming out of a truck stop. I've also heard of people wandering around truck stop restos with a sign and a load of patience.","attachment":null,"posted":1712638241},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2718139,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711486
your anecdotal evidence, imperal fact it does not make faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1712678662},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2718146,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
Hitch hiking has been completely illegal here in the Uk since the 1970s. Too many people were ending up rated and/or dead. And it must have been shitloads because in our culture we're quite relaxed about such things -- a British person expects to be able to cross a road wherever they happen to be standing, there are no "jaywalking" laws. I will cross a 4 lane motorway if I need to and will see nothing wrong with that. So basically to make hitch hiking illegal it must have been reeeally bad.","attachment":null,"posted":1712679874},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2718147,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718146
raped*","attachment":null,"posted":1712679949},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2718149,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715560
I'd love to buy a brand new one of these, in exactly that colour. They should re-issue exact copies of older cars, but of course they never ever will.","attachment":null,"posted":1712680090},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2718165,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718146
>Hitch hiking has been completely illegal here in the Uk since the 1970s.
Is there anything you fags on that godforsaken island are allowed to do?","attachment":null,"posted":1712682561},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2718259,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711486
Not that anon, but I've hitch hiked in America quite a few times, and it really isn't that hard. Hell, sometimes I didn't even need a sign. People saw me with my big ass bag and stick walking the shoulder, and they'd pull over to offer me rides, cash, Gatorade, ect. I turn it down most of the time, but I take it if I need to.
Aside from one schizo lady who told me the radio talks to her, everyone I've met have been top notch people.
>>2711531
Because some people enjoy the journey, not the destination. Hitchhikers aren't in it just to get a ride. It's fun to talk to strangers, and bum around in abandoned places. Sometimes you meet other travelers, and that's always a treat.","attachment":null,"posted":1712698918},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2720459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
Imagine how hairy that 1970 minge is.","attachment":null,"posted":1713217765},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2722614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718259
Hitchhiking isn't /out/","attachment":null,"posted":1713653760},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2723071,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709942
SOURCE: my ass","attachment":null,"posted":1713755114},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2723116,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720459
Would love to stick my face in that","attachment":null,"posted":1713766281},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2723139,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722614
But shopping malls and motor boats are?","attachment":null,"posted":1713772372},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2725551,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723139
Wut","attachment":null,"posted":1714341314},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I went hitchhiking across the US Summer & Autumn of 2017, maybe 100 rides altogether. All that time I got picked up by women twice and truck drivers three times. One of the great things about hitchhiking is that boring people don't pick you up. The two types of truckers I met were Old and Crazy. Old guy talked about how all truckers used to pick people up back in the day, before they had cellphones and podcasts they needed other people to talk to. He said the companies came down hard on truckers for having anyone in the cab who wasn't licensed, which meant no more friends, family members, or hitchhikers. Guys lost their jobs for trying to help people. So the ones who still do are rare, and are willing to tempt fate breaking the rules - and they're crazy. One of the crazies told me that he writes furry fanfiction and spent over an hour talking to me about his collection of gas station knives; he gave me one with an opal in the handle when he dropped me off, it was extremely gay.
>>2717996
>If you want to get a lift on a rig, you have to ask them when they are stopped
This is still mostly true, and talking to people at gas stations is a good trick in general. I'd have a sign and stand (not sit, sitting is for smelly weirdos you don't want in your car) by the front door saying hi to people as they went in, then on the way out I'd ask if them if they were heading to X city. Letting people see and get used to you before the ask is a rare luxury, so take advantage whenever you can. When you're at a highway on ramp, just look as sweet and loveable as possible. I had a specific outfit I wore on days I knew it'd be hard to catch a ride to boost my chances.
>>2718259
schizo rides make great stories afterwards though. Once got dropped in the middle of nowhere and after 90 minutes an old guy in a tractor took me 3 miles to the highway. He said since humans are made in God's image, tattoos allow Satan to possess you because you willingly deform yourself in spite of God.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714530422096954.png","filename":"c5c770b7728a087de532a0c5f7425a34fd11f42293e02f6bc9c4b543b21a2e19.png"},"posted":1714530422},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726502,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726501
I would revise your definition of great story","attachment":null,"posted":1714530526},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726506,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726502
ayy what'dya want from me, my 10 minute routine? It's funnier in person: I can do the voice, and the hand gestures!
Once got picked up by a group of middle-aged deadhead groupies, they converted the back of a van into a waterbed, and after taking some shots of warm whiskey with the guys up front (driver included) I crawled back there and smoked weed with the woman laying on it while she talked to me about old rock music","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714531343651163.jpg","filename":"whatsthedealwithjpgs.jpg"},"posted":1714531343},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711486
>it didn't happen to me so it's not real!
Sex is real, bet that doesn't happen to you either","attachment":null,"posted":1714568478},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726783,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709937
Fag i hitch hiked a ton back in early 2000s and again recently across the us. Worst thing that happened was the wafflehouse waitress offered me a ride then got cold feet and called ME a rapist (i got a free meal out of it and caught a ride an hour later from some hippie college whore)
>>2709939
Apparently someone distantly related to my grandma started the Loves but we dont ever get any discounts :(","attachment":null,"posted":1714595588},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726788,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718165
Sodomy (british) and rape (brown)","attachment":null,"posted":1714596119},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Be hitching out of Asheville
>Guy tells me to take a bus and shuttle to the edge of town and I'll have better luck
>Get off shuttle and start walking up the on ramp
>Already snagged a ride
>Made it about 80 miles in 4 hours with three rides in between
>Even got picked up by a logging truck
>Couldn't understand the man's rambling over his loud ass exhaust
>He just kept talking
I dunno OP. Maybe it is just you. Try wearing blue. Blue is a trustworthy color. Are you walking the line or just sitting there like a bum?","attachment":null,"posted":1714596364},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726802,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726501
Same experiences here. Id dress nice and at least take a whorebath in a bathroom/put on deoderant when i was going to be on the shoulder. Rain sucks, no one wants a wet dog in their car but if you can find cover people tend to be more likely to stop. Although i didnt have any problem getting rides while sitting at gas stations. One day i walked maybe 60 miles with shit shoes and heavy bags and just couldnt be assed to stand anymore, and thats when i had the most hot young chicks approach me. They all were going the opposite direction but offered me cigs, cash, shit like that. I never accepted money unless i was dead broke but would let them buy me food. I got one girls number and we talked for awhile but i felt bad about dating her cause i was going to be leaving the town soon and she seemed like a really nice person. One time somewhere in georgia i was scouting out a spot to stash my shit b4 hitting the town for supplies and found a crazy hobo couple that lived in a shack. They fed me and we partied for a few days before i had to move on. Gave me some handmade pouch i still use and i gave them a good luck charm i got from a gypsy in athens. They were definitely meth heads and had all sorts of spoopy tweaker stories about ufos and witches and shit. I saw 3 ufos during my time in georgia so we got along famously. I never had any weird experiences except for basketball americans always trying to nog me in cities, so i just stayed away from niggerville. Northern ohio was terrible for hitch hiking, kentucky was probably the easiest and i basically just blew thru there","attachment":null,"posted":1714597050},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726783
why did you rape that waitress tho","attachment":null,"posted":1714598848},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726829,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
Still easy to hitchhike in Japan","attachment":null,"posted":1714603084},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726829
In what? Their kei trucks? Lmoa","attachment":null,"posted":1714605766},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726849,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726815
Mans gotta eat","attachment":null,"posted":1714608744},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726878,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723071
This is the third time in two weeks with the exact same reply, and it’s the third time I was able to find a source after 5 seconds of googling.
Pic is a propaganda a poster. The article is wrong; it’s from 1966. Lol “sex maniac.”
Here’s the article with plenty of links:
https://www.vox.com/2015/6/8/8737623/hitchhiking","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714617399675828.jpg","filename":"4BE11481-FB7A-47C3-8377-6AA8410214A8.jpg"},"posted":1714617399},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726882,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726878
SOURCE: VOX AKA MY ASS","attachment":null,"posted":1714618866},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2726929,"name":"Eve Online","msg":">>2709914
>stick thumb out
>get gangstalked
W!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714638868999936.jpg","filename":"Catgirl Eve meowing in the Garden of Eden, resin figure style.jpg"},"posted":1714638868},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2728118,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710062
theyre probably feds
better not risk it","attachment":null,"posted":1714872284},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2728185,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
Don't thumb it. Hang out at gas stations and rest stops and ask for a ride.","attachment":null,"posted":1714881519},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2728208,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Had the opportunity to hitchhike and pick up a few travelers on Hawaii, seems to be one of few places where hitchhiking is a common sight.
Each had a lesson, most memorable was picking up a middle aged woman who casually invited me to come check out the commune she stayed at, after saying no words of thanks for the ride, which was a suspiciously short distance to the beach. I later drove by the entrance out of curiosity, and decided against visiting instinctively, which was later corroborated by a hitchhiking crone who had more stories than I could handle about what kind of sick shit they get down to at that specific place (involving their children) and on the island in general.
If you ever visit paradise, avoid all devils disguised as hippies, or everyone but the natives who are genuinely cool.","attachment":null,"posted":1714887211},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2728209,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717854
>What was the point of the voucher?
To get truckers and other people driving down the road to pick up hitchhikers, thus moving more people around per gallon of gas.","attachment":null,"posted":1714887535},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2728229,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709914
what? hitchhiking is still a thing here, no laws against it. if i can i will try to pick up hitchhikers when im on my roadtrips, they are usually international travelers and has lots of stories. once picked up a danish girl who had traveled all the way from denmark to north cape, norway and was heading home when i picked her up.
blew my mind when she told me east euro truckers, the kind you really dont want to deal with, they are batfucking crazy, drunk or on drugs, where here best and safest rides. they absolutely wouldnt touch her, no sexual harassment, nothing, just total protective bro-mode.","attachment":null,"posted":1714897541},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2728234,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726842
>can't enjoy riding on the bed
ngmi","attachment":null,"posted":1714899933},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2730206,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723116
Hnnnghh","attachment":null,"posted":1715282736},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2730238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726882
NTA
You’re a massive faggot. The Vox article contains like two dozen links. The poster he posted is all over the internet (along with one or two others), all attributed to the federal government.","attachment":null,"posted":1715289181},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2732739,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Alwaystop,,,giveride.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715886227655583.jpg","filename":"IMG_0913.jpg"},"posted":1715886227},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2734721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732739
Shit restaurant!","attachment":null,"posted":1716382603},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2734891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711486
I've been picked up 4 times by truckers hitchhiking in the USA and I'm not even American
I remember one was serbian, one truck was like 4 Ethiopian guys, one was African American, one was mexican who brought me chinese food and I'm even sure I had another, one old guy who gave me a shower token and brought me a slice of pizza but I can't remember","attachment":null,"posted":1716408639},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2734892,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718165
We're allowed to have an IQ above 80 but it just means we aren't able to work in the US","attachment":null,"posted":1716408816},{"board":"out","thread":2709914,"pid":2734894,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734891
Some of us don't want to suck trucker dicks for a ride","attachment":null,"posted":1716409679}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"*blocks you path*","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713452307051180.jpg","filename":"mlsqq2s2lmuc1.jpg"},"posted":1713452307},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
Lol Im a sovereign criminal and I will not heed any warning.","attachment":null,"posted":1713454632},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"TL;DR some schizo boomer/ "sovereign citizen" thinks he has the right to a free pay day if someone walks on his lawn/thinks he can keep cops with warrants off his property lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1713455959},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721702,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
>fake American flag symbols
>random highlights and emboldening of snippets of laws
>extreme fine
yeah it's fake as fuck, but what this sign really says is "if you enter my land I will shoot you". probably would work better if he just put a sign like that up instead","attachment":null,"posted":1713456749},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721703,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Lawful Money","attachment":null,"posted":1713456958},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721704,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
>random ass capitalization
>copyright symbol behind a name
Certified retard.","attachment":null,"posted":1713456959},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
Who are more retarded sovereign citizens, flat earthers or young earth creationists?","attachment":null,"posted":1713457902},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721710,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721709
probably a ton of overlap desu","attachment":null,"posted":1713458128},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721711,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This is giving me Ricky Sipes vibes
https://youtu.be/ESI6dwLrVEI?si=Cup1frAkaCwFslnf","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713458783729922.png","filename":"Untitled.png"},"posted":1713458783},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
Just carry on. In case that litigious lardass confronts you, just make a run for it. They can't do shit to you if they never catch you.","attachment":null,"posted":1713459041},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
Americlaps, land for the freee","attachment":null,"posted":1713459564},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721719,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721702
Executor Stuart Swan is a big clue some fag had his lawyer draft up a complete bluff haha","attachment":null,"posted":1713460446},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
What's with the random ruzzian Zs on the sign?","attachment":null,"posted":1713462941},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721730,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721728
Why they gotta be Ruzzian?","attachment":null,"posted":1713463135},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2721790,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721714
>eurpderp too smoothbrain get the joke but still tries to participate.
kek","attachment":null,"posted":1713472714},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721709
Flat earthers > young earth creationists > sovereign citizens
But flat earthers are so retarded I just feel sorry for them. Young earthers' only argument is that "we weren't there to see all this stuff form so it's impossible to prove it's old" which is stupid but at least they are partially correct with the fact that we weren't there billions of years ago... With flat earthers they completely deny reality that anyone can prove with basic logic and experiments right now. Both groups really struggle with comprehending scale and how large things really are, especially flatties.
Anyways, who wants to come with me to go see what they're hiding behind the ice wall","attachment":null,"posted":1713530005},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
I want to know if the property owner has a Social Security number. This makes the person a 14th Amendment citizen, "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." People with Social Security numbers have signed documents stating they are "United States citizens," who, for legal purposes, have their situs, as government property, in Washington, DC, and merely "residents" of the state they live in. The US Constitution's protections and rights do not apply, unless the courts allow it. The 14th Amendment took the slave away from his master and gave him a new one: the federal United States corporation. The 14th also made this new form of slavery equal opportunity. Practically all United States citizens are slaves to the fed, and mere "residents" or "occupants" of where they live. I'm gonna bet the OP threatening signs' owner still pays property tax, does not have allodial title to his land. I'm gonna bet he has a Social Security number and is required by law to pay income tax. And "lawful money" is not US Federal Reserve notes.","attachment":null,"posted":1713544526},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722114,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
standing on the public road and pissing really far over his fence","attachment":null,"posted":1713544781},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722509,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
Flood the land by telling gypsies there is free copper just to spite the uppity cancerboomer, knowing he won't do shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1713633590},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
*snips zipties and takes signs*","attachment":null,"posted":1713653181},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
Did they leave the print test on the bottom of the signs lmfao","attachment":null,"posted":1713653375},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722925,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722609
I have you on camera
Any idea what the punushment for petty crime is here?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713730010092915.webm","filename":"1661221803925798.webm"},"posted":1713730010},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722943,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722925
*takes camera*","attachment":null,"posted":1713733791},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722949,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722943
Footage goes straight to the cloud smart guy
Straight to the cloud","attachment":null,"posted":1713735051},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722951,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"boy i love living in surveillance dystopia all so our BASED private property owners can live free
i hope one day that the trail cams can just connect to ai and look up your face and a drone comes and picks you up and takes you to jail before a video hearing with a robot judge","attachment":null,"posted":1713735138},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2722965,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722949
*takes cloud*","attachment":null,"posted":1713737340},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2723095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722949
>rains
>all data is now splattered on the dirt and irrecoverable
what now friendo?","attachment":null,"posted":1713760515},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2723101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723095
kek","attachment":null,"posted":1713761850},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2723108,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
They'll never take me alive.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713763638069402.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240201_130721_878_stalker_freedom.jpg"},"posted":1713763638},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2723111,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721704
Reads like a non English speaker wrote that. I mean if you struck it rich and you come to America and set up shop in the sticks at least hire a lawyer who speaks proper English like everyone else to handle your details. This shit comes off as unintentionally comical.","attachment":null,"posted":1713764824},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2723138,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
Is this some """sovereign""" citizen bullshit? I'm having trouble figuring out how one of those idiots could write all that without a spelling error.","attachment":null,"posted":1713772145},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2723512,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
>pays the fine in unlawful money
Can't wait to see the look on his face when he gets that check.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713841761454512.jpg","filename":"devilish.jpg"},"posted":1713841761},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2723771,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
can't see cant report","attachment":null,"posted":1713896772},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2723955,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
>Vertical stripes flag
HAHAHA what is up with that? Is it because you live in a prison country? Americalories explain yourselves.","attachment":null,"posted":1713929941},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2724453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721693
>>2721677
https://reports.adviserinfo.sec.gov/reports/individual/individual_3188192.pdf
wounder if this is the same guy","attachment":null,"posted":1714068373},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2724455,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721709
Very clearly you are more retarded than all those people.","attachment":null,"posted":1714068460},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2724468,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723955
>actually retarded
Not a day goes by that I'm not surprised at the drivel splattered across this board","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714069542882220.jpg","filename":"images (2).jpg"},"posted":1714069542},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2724513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724468
That's not what it is. Note that it has blue stars on a white background and that section is oriented horizontally. It's actually a flag that was used by early customs vessels (predecessor of the Coast Guard) and has been adopted by Sovereign Citizen morons who think that the normal US flag is for the military and this vertical stripe one is the civilian version.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714080869603461.jpg","filename":"61O1LOqSHNL.jpg"},"posted":1714080869},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2726819,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724513
Sounds like threeper nonsense. On par for /out/","attachment":null,"posted":1714600501},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2727657,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
>take off the signs","attachment":null,"posted":1714791503},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2727783,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
I don't know how this would block my path considering I have no reason to go on somebody's property other than using their driveway to turn around.","attachment":null,"posted":1714830053},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2728187,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
Go in on a dirtbike. Good luck catching me.","attachment":null,"posted":1714882149},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2728230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721709
Creationists are the least schizo, not like there is any way to disprove the sky wizard snapping his fingers and making everything a few thousand years ago. Flat earthers are 99% well poisoning glowniggers attaching it to legitimate conspiracies and sovereign citizens are just straight up retards who think they can avoid the force of the state through jewish loophole tier wordplay.","attachment":null,"posted":1714897719},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2728263,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728230
>not like there is any way to disprove the sky wizard snapping his fingers and making everything a few thousand years ago
It's pretty obviously disproven by the evidence that shows that the earth is several orders of magnitude older than that.","attachment":null,"posted":1714913103},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2728470,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728263
God could have created the universe as it is with evidence of age as a test of faith. It's not disproven at all even if you think it's bullshit which it probably is.","attachment":null,"posted":1714942451},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2728514,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728470
If this sort of reasoning was applied consistently, nothing could ever be proven or disproven. Unsubstantiated hypotheticals don’t render the facts obsolete.","attachment":null,"posted":1714949935},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2729223,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
I'm not trespassing bro, I'm travelling.","attachment":null,"posted":1715090655},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2729502,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
What's with the Zs?","attachment":null,"posted":1715135870},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2730707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728470
How do you know god didn't create the bible as a test of retardedness?","attachment":null,"posted":1715391208},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2731374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
what the fuck is "lawful money"? lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1715564017},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2731379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721677
Where the fuck is this and what the fuck is it talking about? Reads like a bunch of gibberish.","attachment":null,"posted":1715564363},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2731585,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721698
Those warnings aren't even proper English. It doesn't even say you will be fined if you trespass. That's what the spirit of the sign is, but the down syndrome stroke patient who wrote it did a terrible job of conveying that message.","attachment":null,"posted":1715610441},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2732837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721709
>>2721677
you guys think soverign citizens are retards but 'native' reservations basically function the way these 'retards' want to live.","attachment":null,"posted":1715910033},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2733440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723138
they used Grammarly","attachment":null,"posted":1716087810},{"board":"out","thread":2721677,"pid":2733452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732837
But the difference is that Indian reservations are ordained by the US government and held in trust by the indigenous tribes that occupy them. Sovereign citizens have literally no legal basis for whatever claims they pull out of their ass.","attachment":null,"posted":1716088944}]}
{"title":"Why do backpackers wear hideous colors?","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710223,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why would you want other people to see you before you see them? That would make me very uncomfortable, like sitting at the very first table in the break room with your back to entrance. I don't own a single piece of clothing or gear that is any color except Earth brown, olive drab green, and stone grey. The whole point of going out in the woods is escaping humanity and becoming invisible and being left the fuck alone.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710886740563823.jpg","filename":"Do_You_speak_backpacker_McInnis_1.jpg"},"posted":1710886740},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I wear all multicam with a matching bag and I get weird looks from the colourful fags.","attachment":null,"posted":1710886909},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710225,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>Earth brown, olive drab green, and stone grey
ugly
>becoming invisible
larper","attachment":null,"posted":1710887033},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710227,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
They don’t. The worst you could come up with is sky blue (normal) and red (normal). This is a meme from the 90’s that simply won’t die.","attachment":null,"posted":1710888038},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710227
Yes they do. I see it all the time. 90% of people I encounter on trails are wearing bright, conspicuous colors. I can see them moving from 120 yards through thick new growth.","attachment":null,"posted":1710889394},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710230
they don't care because they are not paranoid and/or autistic","attachment":null,"posted":1710889572},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710234,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"If they fall down they want someone to see them before they die. What retard would hike on the Appalachian Trail in military camo ?
You can literally get lost from the trail at night when you go take a piss if you do not pay attention to what you are doing.","attachment":null,"posted":1710889919},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
So it's easier to spot them from height when they get lost.","attachment":null,"posted":1710890361},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710240,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710230
No, they don’t. You’re making things up, and it’s fucking stupid.","attachment":null,"posted":1710890512},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710234
If you're lost then just hang a blaze orange bandana on your person. No reason to permanently lock yourself in to looking like a fag at all times. Also, you can't hunt birds in bright colors. Turkey and ducks are some of the most useful survival foods because of how easy it is to find these animals during the daytime, but they see colors very well. You also need to be able to hide from dangerous people who mean you harm. You might not even have cell service to call the police in the woods.","attachment":null,"posted":1710892187},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710238
How the fuck can you get lost when every phone has gps and there are hundreds of free offline map apps now? Real life is literally Skyrim. I go miles off trail on a regular basis and don't give a fuck.","attachment":null,"posted":1710892315},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710269,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>So autistic he dislikes even being perceived
Yeah, total mystery. Can't even begin to figure it out.","attachment":null,"posted":1710894531},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710272,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710269
It is an extremely unnerving experience to suddenly notice someone on the trail who is already looking at you when you spot them. I don't like it.","attachment":null,"posted":1710894645},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710272
Maybe they should wear some more bright colors so you can see them sooner.","attachment":null,"posted":1710895044},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710280,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710231
I'm trans and tripple vaxxed btw not sure if that matters","attachment":null,"posted":1710895205},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710283,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>>2710280
You definitely are, yeah.","attachment":null,"posted":1710895303},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710283
I don't think that was op","attachment":null,"posted":1710895711},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710287,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710285
It very obviously was, though.","attachment":null,"posted":1710895863},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
humiliation ritual","attachment":null,"posted":1710897000},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710306,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i think it's funny to wear loud ridiculous clothes","attachment":null,"posted":1710901398},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710325,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>That would make me very uncomfortable,
This is because your brain doesn't work very well.","attachment":null,"posted":1710906697},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The onlg reason to go retard bright colors is if you are afraid of getting lost and would want to be seen. But the real reason all the people itt are salty about this is that they buy their gear on clearance and only the ass ugliest colors are ever left in the clearance section. Normal people would buy muted or normal colors like navy or burgandy or forest green or brown or grey or black. But those colors don't go on clearance. What goes on clearance is electric blue with neon yellow suppers.","attachment":null,"posted":1710912432},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"so they dont get hit by cars. Nothing more retarded than someone wearing full camo, dark colours at dusk by the road","attachment":null,"posted":1710914414},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Enjoying getting shot by drunken rednecks I mean hunters.","attachment":null,"posted":1710922863},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710388,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They think it'll help the helicopter find their jacket when it's in a log jam after being ripped from their body when they tried to cross a flooded stream.","attachment":null,"posted":1710924540},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
People have liked wearing bright colors since before recorded history. Even uncontacted tribes have been spotted wearing brightly dyed cloth and/or body paint. You're just a mentally ill antisocial retard.","attachment":null,"posted":1710935819},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710409
Or he just knows how to dress himself.","attachment":null,"posted":1710947130},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
This, but unironically. I always think about it when I notice someone on the trail from several hundred yards away because they’re wearing a red jacket or something. Wearing loud colors for a quiet /out/ing has the same feel as driving around driving around with untinted windows","attachment":null,"posted":1710947634},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710409
>check regular colors
>full price
>check dipshit orange with electric retard blue stripes
>45% off
Gee I wonder why you guys are buying these","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710947684134560.jpg","filename":"511448_189_72.jpg"},"posted":1710947684},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710439,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710437
Only niggers and spics tint windows.
>>2710438
Gray is ugly, and does nothing to improve your own inherent malodorous hideousness.","attachment":null,"posted":1710947946},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710441,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710438
686 disputes your whole argument. Imagine getting btfo by a company that uses Floyds for models lmoa","attachment":null,"posted":1710948267},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710441
>>2710439
Poorfag cope","attachment":null,"posted":1710948499},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710445,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710409
I agree for clothing and colors in regular settings, but in the woods it really looks like shit to have a pop of some bubblegum colors.","attachment":null,"posted":1710948993},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710446,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710443
Not a response lmoa","attachment":null,"posted":1710949296},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710447,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710446
You wear vans.","attachment":null,"posted":1710949340},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Technically speaking, blue is more easier to spot in the outdoors, even more than red.
Thoughts?","attachment":null,"posted":1710949589},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710449
That would depend on the saturation and value. A burgandy and navy would be pretty comparable. A burgundy #800020 would be more discreet than a neon blue #0cfff4. A navy #1c2e4a would be more discreet than neon red #ff073a","attachment":null,"posted":1710950087},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710454,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I miss going out in the 1990s and 2000s before Instagrammers turned the outdoors into a fashion show and popularity contest. The outdoors were better when they stayed in the cities where they belong.","attachment":null,"posted":1710950399},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710455,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710454
You gotta look cool","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710950786229380.jpg","filename":"WW2_Luftwaffe_German_Air_Force_Uniforms_Flying_suits_parachutist_Continental_etc_Newsmap_Vol_2_No_46_3-6-1944_US_Government_National_Archives_NARA_Unrestricted_Public_domain_26-nm-2-46_002_cropped.jpg"},"posted":1710950786},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Natural colour on the outer layers neon colour on the insides.
I do actually go outdoors during off season bad weather and do night time hikes. Summits etc. I do solo bivvy trips etc. so so signal colours are needed in case of emergency because I can't expect to have reliable signal. and I don't want to get blasted by some drunk hunter.
BUT if care this much what others wear you are an autistic spaz.
X2hp","attachment":null,"posted":1710951665},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710470,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Because that's what's available at the local REI.","attachment":null,"posted":1710953368},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710475,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710225
I get most of my cloths from the thrift store. I can get lightly used or in many cases totally unused high end clothing. The only thing I buy new are coats, hats, underwear, shoes and socks... the rest are thrift store treasures.
Also
Learn to fix zippers bitches.","attachment":null,"posted":1710954357},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710454
Congratulations, hikers have always liked bright colors. Also, you weren't even born then you zoomer faggot.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710954631824418.jpg","filename":"23c778694084813539262fab9c9493c6.jpg"},"posted":1710954631},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710230
>I can see them moving from 120 yards through thick new growth.
well that means those outfits worked as intended","attachment":null,"posted":1710954763},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710453
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you have severe autism and homosex.","attachment":null,"posted":1710955613},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710487,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"If you don't know when big game seasons are, that is your fault. And if you do allow me to introduce you to something to put on OVER your normal colored clothing. How are you guys this fucking stupid","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710955908277884.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240320_123118_Gallery.jpg"},"posted":1710955908},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710478
>hikers
numales you mean","attachment":null,"posted":1710957071},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710409
>socialist
>calling anyone else mentally ill
xD","attachment":null,"posted":1710959229},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710504,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710224
Sounds like the multicam isn’t working then. STILLNESS is 95% of successful camouflage so if you’re wearing camo patterns to hike in bc you want to be hidden, uh lol you won’t be because you’re walking on a trail and obviously identifiable as a human. Very pointless to wear camo when you aren’t actually stalking anything.","attachment":null,"posted":1710960672},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710522,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710478
That's a pic from the 1970s you god damn retard. The decade before smartphones and social media had more subtle colors and fewer people overall. You wouldn't know because you're a newfag who "discovered" the outdoors after iPhones came out. Kys.","attachment":null,"posted":1710966192},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710504
multicam is kinda cucked anyway, unless his camping trips involve sniping terrorists in the afghan mountains. i can see something like a properly matched realtree or even flecktarn tarp being not completely useless though. i personally default to olive drab as my color of choice and introduce other/bright colors that make sense
>bright yellow guyline so i don't trip on it
>dark blue underquilt so i don't mistake it for the hammock
>bright red fuel bottle because it's a bottle of fuel
>bright teal wallet so i don't lose my $$$ and car key
>>2710441
>>2710446
>lmoa","attachment":null,"posted":1710966468},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>why isn't everyone as autistic as me?!?!?!?!
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE","attachment":null,"posted":1710966517},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710549,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710460
Just carry a blaze orange handkerchief","attachment":null,"posted":1710968925},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710480
I could set up an ambush and mug them as easily as I could fall out of bed","attachment":null,"posted":1710968987},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710550
Imagine pouncing on a trailtwink and just holding him down and dryhumping him. Humping and whispering in his ear how small and sexy he is. Not actually raping, just letting him know a man could and fear it for the rest of his life every time he goes on a trail hahahahaha","attachment":null,"posted":1710971812},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710567,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710563
I have fantasized about meeting a hung stud on the trail and letting him take it...would be hot.","attachment":null,"posted":1710972051},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710776,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710484
Apparently you're not a golfer","attachment":null,"posted":1711028170},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2710786,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">umpteenth fashion thread devolving into overt gay fantasies
You're all gay, just different flavors of gay.","attachment":null,"posted":1711029346},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710454
You mean you miss going outdoors when you still had knees","attachment":null,"posted":1711145894},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710550
>mug them as easily as I could fall out of bed
On a completely unrelated topic, what race are you?","attachment":null,"posted":1711150318},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710786
>different flavors
>not different shades
Missed opportunity","attachment":null,"posted":1711150627},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711524,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710250
Lol, I like how he never responded to you because when you said "you might need to hide from dangerous people who want to do you harm", he knew he was wasting his time with a low IQ larper.
Can you give me a realistic example of needing camo for camping/hiking because of people wanting to do me harm? I'm trying to come up with some scenarios that are realistic, but none of them involve an apocalypto chase. I either die or survive the ensuing fight, but I will draw my CCW and shoot. And if I have to do that, it's probably because they attacked me as I'm hiking.","attachment":null,"posted":1711209567},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711542,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711524
For me, it's the flipper zero with a broadband rf jammer to make your cellphones not work. Then it's a pneu dart gun set up for a mule deer sized animal. Then... we'll see if you guys like my burried shipping container","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711212843992202.jpg","filename":"61gzHyofJEL.jpg"},"posted":1711212843},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711558,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">The whole point of going out in the woods is escaping humanity
nah, it's about enjoying the beauty of nature. just stay in your basement if you want to escape humanity.","attachment":null,"posted":1711216945},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711558
t. eastoid hivedweller","attachment":null,"posted":1711217267},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711568,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711524
How do you draw and shoot someone who has planned their approach for several minutes without you being aware of their existence? Why are you defending the practice of being conspicuous at all times for no reason? That is such an objectively stupid concept.","attachment":null,"posted":1711218483},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711569,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711558
Only urban people think that way","attachment":null,"posted":1711218546},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711562
>>2711569
Why would you need to "escape humanity" if you already live in the countryside?","attachment":null,"posted":1711221991},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>Why would you want other people to see you before you see them?
Most of them are planning for the moment the heli rescue team needs to spot their dead bodies easily.
People like me, for example, are comfortable with the fact that our earth tone clothes will mean not even wild animals will spot us until our remains start smelling.
We will become one with the Earth. Our clothes won't, because they're polyester, but we will.","attachment":null,"posted":1711226366},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711615,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711584
Lmao countryside. Nigga you a yuropoor","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711228054885802.jpg","filename":"2712985768_a663364225_b.jpg"},"posted":1711228054},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711619,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711608
>he doesn't wear wool, leather, linen, cotton, hemp
ngmi","attachment":null,"posted":1711228433},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711584
Because there are still people and I still have to have a job","attachment":null,"posted":1711231979},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710443
He's literally right.","attachment":null,"posted":1711253784},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2711810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I bought an orange knock off sierra designs parka from Uniqlo because
*orange seemed to be the colour most associated with it.
*kind of a 1970s vibe that i liked.
*orange looks decent on me.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711254985847026.png","filename":"cataloggeorge.png"},"posted":1711254985},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712317,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711615","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711356662777780.jpg","filename":"IMG_7992.jpg"},"posted":1711356662},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712339,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711615
Why does northern Finland have some civilization while Murmansk in Russia is completely empty?","attachment":null,"posted":1711366277},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712343,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711584
Because the countryside is industrialised even in the most rural of places, atleast in the west.","attachment":null,"posted":1711367734},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711608
>until our remains start smelling.
You fucking stink right now to a wild animal, they see the world through their nostrils.","attachment":null,"posted":1711367931},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712559,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2711615
This hurts.","attachment":null,"posted":1711400308},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712639,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
It's like the Rainbow flag, it shows others that they're faggots.","attachment":null,"posted":1711407291},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712646,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712639
>t. poor
Mom's basement doesn't count as /out/ my nigga.","attachment":null,"posted":1711407878},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712664,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712646
Found the faggot. I've not seen my mom in over eighteen years, I own my home and go out every weekend because the Olympic Peninsula butts up against my property, so good job on being so wrong, faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1711409258},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712674,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712646
>buys clearance colors
>you're poor","attachment":null,"posted":1711410999},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712897,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710230
It's because hunters exist and they don't want to get shot.","attachment":null,"posted":1711482478},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2712918,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
-a lot of them don't
-safety (hi vis)
-it became fashionable & common in design based on the hi vis","attachment":null,"posted":1711489448},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713008,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712897
>deer season is usually november-early january
Ah yes, the prime time for hiking. And with plenty of sweet december foliage for a hunter to think I'm a deer!","attachment":null,"posted":1711513257},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713008
Unfortunately, a lot of boomer hunters will shoot without properly IDing their target because they're eager to get the "deer" near the edge of the woods. That's why I always make a lot of noise until I'm far enough in that there aren't any people.","attachment":null,"posted":1711528626},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713114,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713056
There are so many things stupid about this. 1. Deer are crepuscular and hunters only really see them at 5am-7am and 5pm-7pm. 2. Deer tags usually go to specific public land units or private land and the parks people hike in don't have legal hunting. And the common public land units sound like a war zone in the east and south where this would be a problem. In the west hunters usually glass their deer far before getting the chance to shoot them. 3. At that time of year the deciduous trees have nearly all lost their leaves and you're visable anyway. 4. Pic related. There is no reason to buy an ugly jacket
, a unitasker, you couldn't wear around town normally without looking stupid.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711553621542202.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240327_102338_Chrome.jpg"},"posted":1711553621},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713139,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713114
1. Boomers don't care
2. I live in the northeast and state forests are multi-use, also boomers don't care
3. See >>2713056
4. Boomers. Don't. Care.","attachment":null,"posted":1711559810},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713149,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713139
>northeast
Are boomers even allowed to use a rifle there? I lived in maryland before and it was muzzleloader/slugs only.","attachment":null,"posted":1711561358},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713153,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713139
There is another solution","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711562270468553.jpg","filename":"51105c5cfd4dfa930410775925f53c6d.jpg"},"posted":1711562270},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713164,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713153
Fuck off, you never actually have to wear these for longer than an hour or two don't you?","attachment":null,"posted":1711564461},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713204,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713164
based esl","attachment":null,"posted":1711575287},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713241,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">"I don't want to be shot by hunters/boomers/red necks!"
Skill issue, if you get shot then clearly you weren't camouflaged enough, you should be able to get close enough to record their voices & play them at different pitches to fuck with them.","attachment":null,"posted":1711589110},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtJzw-hgTTw","attachment":null,"posted":1711600364},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710527
I just have a multicam shirt because it was the cheapest abrasion resistance layer I could find that would also seal up well against the 8-legged blood balloons.","attachment":null,"posted":1711632801},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713312,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713311
Pantyhose
Yer welcum","attachment":null,"posted":1711632898},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713311
I have one of these.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711643246008645.jpg","filename":"501342_1_74.jpg"},"posted":1711643246},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710230
Wearing bright colours is a good idea for two reasons:
1) Hunters exist, it's a good idea to make it clear you're not a wild animal
2) if something goes wrong, it's a lot easier for mountain rescue to spot someone wearing red than it is to spot someone wearing camos
>I can see them coming
They don't care retard, you're not in vietnam","attachment":null,"posted":1711785172},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713815
Why don't we just take this to its logical conclusion.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711785947913545.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240330_030514_Gallery.jpg"},"posted":1711785947},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713817,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I need people to see me, y'all! Safety first! Y'alll, there's redneck trump voters out there and I could get lost!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711786186717130.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240330_030817_Chrome.jpg"},"posted":1711786186},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713820,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>Why would you want other people to see you before you see them. That would make me very uncomfortable.
Want to know what makes ME very uncomfortable? Getting shot.
>Like sitting at the very first table in the break room with your back to entrance
So you don't worry about getting shot out in the wild, where there could be some idiot out hunting, but you DO worry that someone might get you from behind at work? Are you doing ok?","attachment":null,"posted":1711786346},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713821,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713820
>Want to know what makes ME very uncomfortable? Getting shot.
What if they're trying to shoot you on purpose?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711786468770592.jpg","filename":"1655158486804.jpg"},"posted":1711786468},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713823,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713821
What the fuck do people think is going to happen if they answer their phone? They going to get the call from "Cell" or something? People I work with are like this. One of the fucking goblinoids found a phone in the park the other day and they genuinly took it to the police station because they got it into their heads that it was a drug dealers phone and he'd be angry if they tried to return it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711787314346939.jpg","filename":"91atvITaenL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg"},"posted":1711787314},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713845,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713823
If I answer spam calls then the people making the calls know when I'm awake and double up on how much they do it. It's annoying as fuck.","attachment":null,"posted":1711806469},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
"The wicked flee when no man pursueth, but the righteous go boldly as a lion."
Basically, you're gay.","attachment":null,"posted":1711807895},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2713858,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713845
This. And they add you to a list of schmucks who answer the phone","attachment":null,"posted":1711808306},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2714176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It’s mostly an east coast thing in my experience. I’ve seen it out west but yeah the REI pastel faggots usually like attention and being looked at and somehow believe in their mind that they are going to have to worry about getting lost on crowded clearly marked trails with rangers on them every couple of miles. They aren’t trying to be super hard core survivalists just get some exercise and enjoy pretty nature. They’re mostly middle class nerds.
Personally I tend to hike those types of places in fall when it isn’t as hot, crowded, or just stick to the way less commonly known spots. Either way brown Carhartt work pants to fuck off thorns and stickers, moisture wicking base layer, wool flannel, and my duck hunting jacket all repurposed from my hunting shit are what I usually wear. To each their own I guess.","attachment":null,"posted":1711888826},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2715454,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Because if you take something off at camp and then later pack up to go, you're more likely to see your gear and not accidentally leave something behind. Especially when the conditions are adverse and you need to get a move on.","attachment":null,"posted":1712151781},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716664,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
normies only care about being noticed / seen doing things, every action taken is for the purpose of bolstering the artificially supported, advertising-indoctrinated social media ego which has replaced their free will and personality.
very few people do anything uncomfortable or outdoorsy for the actual self-fulfillment or benefit to health. people who unironically just walk through the woods to walk through the woods are doing so to be SEEN doing it, to be SEEN taking the instagram selfie at that scenic overlook.
You've effectively fallen for their simplistic peacocking and have had your time and energy STOLEN just by discussing this
Go outside","attachment":null,"posted":1712403412},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716664
You started off with a good point but then you got pretentious with it, so now I'm just going to tell you to go back faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1712407512},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715454
Do normies seriously have that problem? I have never been in the habit of throwing shit all over the place and leaving it there. I have never lost anything important or expensive in my life.","attachment":null,"posted":1712409105},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713856
Lions are nocturnal stealth predators. What a dumb scripture.","attachment":null,"posted":1712409170},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713823
Nobody uses voice call anymore except scam artists and debt collectors. If you aren't texting or emailing me then we do not have business.","attachment":null,"posted":1712409232},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713820
Most hunting accidents are people injuring themselves or their hunting partner with NDs, not random people in the woods being mistaken for wildlife.","attachment":null,"posted":1712411135},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716739,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
The claim that a lot of people wear bright colors while hiking just proves you don’t hike around other people. It’s literally a non-issue. Yes autists, there are a few exceptions. But most people aren’t doing this.","attachment":null,"posted":1712414961},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716744,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716739
Yes they are","attachment":null,"posted":1712415390},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716772,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716739
Never underestimate an eastoids ability to söy up everythind","attachment":null,"posted":1712419024},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716945,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>Why do backpackers wear hideous colors
Uhm... because it is based?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712444027244680.jpg","filename":"20240407_005132.jpg"},"posted":1712444027},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2716963,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://www.rei.com/c/hiking-shirts
Grays and blues seem to be the most common, followed by muted pastels but in earth tones. I should add “bright colors” to this meme.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712445637624704.jpg","filename":"634ED2FF-FA6E-43E4-B2CD-774762FFEF70.jpg"},"posted":1712445637},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717002,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716963
Trekking poles are the gayest shit I have ever seen in my life and objectively inferior to walking sticks.","attachment":null,"posted":1712450753},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717004,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716693
Double gay.","attachment":null,"posted":1712450954},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717002
Being gay is based and walking sticks and poles have different purposes.","attachment":null,"posted":1712452282},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717073,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717002
>everyone is wrong except me
God damn you faggots are just insufferable. Get over yourself, Anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1712459235},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717075,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This is what I wear. Too much?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712459515178912.jpg","filename":"IMG_2448.jpg"},"posted":1712459515},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
You'll never see me in red, for what it's worth. I don't go full camo mode but bright colours are not my deal -- the idea that you see me way off before I see you is not a good feeling.","attachment":null,"posted":1712464933},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717164,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716963
>>2717002
>>2717029
>>2717073
Imagine using a fucking stick to walk when you should constantly be scrambling. They're even less than usless in rocky areas. Why do easterners need them for their little hills? Is it the mud? Is the mud slippery?","attachment":null,"posted":1712483213},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717185,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717164
Bipedalism is not functional in the mountains, especially heavily forested mountains with pervasive ground debris and obstacles. You would know that if you ever took one step off of a trail.","attachment":null,"posted":1712488827},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717187,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717185
It's a good thing God gave me arms.","attachment":null,"posted":1712489083},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717201,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717164
Poles (and natural sticks) are helpful for uneven terrain and stream crossings. This should be common knowledge to anyone who actually goes outdoors.
>constantly scrambling
Not applicable to most of the eastern US. Even in the exceptionally rugged Adirondacks and Whites you aren't CONSTANTLY scrambling on most routes.","attachment":null,"posted":1712491748},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717260,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717187
Okay, then crawl around on all fours and see how well that works out for you.","attachment":null,"posted":1712504505},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717201
>Even in the exceptionally rugged Adirondacks and Whites you aren't CONSTANTLY scrambling on most routes.
On trails? No. Off trail? Yes, obstacle clearance techniques basically become your default mode of locomotion and you will almost certainly succumb to a serious injury without a walking stick sooner or later. Attempting to take game via stalking while having your hands occupied with a rifle or shotgun is virtually impossible. In the southern Appalachians I actually attach a hook to my walking stick as a climbing aid and it's constantly in use whenever I'm bushwhacking. The Adirondacks were not quite so bad, still very dangerous country for people who don't understand basic climbing form though. Wear suspenders.","attachment":null,"posted":1712504927},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717264
>east coast
>rugged","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712520187431129.gif","filename":"54531095594f94246c2d12136b2fbc99.gif"},"posted":1712520187},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717344
The Appalachians are physically harder to navigate than probably any wild region in North America, in part because of the dense forest cover and the absolute mess of dead blow down trees that make up the forest floor. When I watch videos of people doing anything /out/ related out west it looks like they are frolicking around in teletubby land.","attachment":null,"posted":1712520669},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710250
>No reason to permanently lock yourself in to looking like a fag at all times.
Fragile masculinity
>You also need to be able to hide from dangerous people who mean you harm.
Lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1712523236},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717347
>are physically harder to navigate than probably any wild region in North America, in part because of the dense forest cover and the absolute mess of dead blow down trees that make up the forest floor.
> When I watch videos of people doing anything /out/ related
maybe people who have no idea what they are doing and without any prior outdoor experience should not be walking those well kept trails just for the social media clout then
90% of people these days havent been taught how to use compass and map in middle school so how could they manage a straight basically paved road that has shops to cater to him calculated for every day walk","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712523968586553.jpg","filename":"absentee father scroll of truth.jpg"},"posted":1712523968},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715454
>imagine being /out/ with more than 20 pounds of gear
>imagine not knowing exactly what you brought, and exactly where it is at all times
Skill issue.","attachment":null,"posted":1712524488},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717376,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717355
I'm in the east right now and I'm 20 miles from the nearest gas station. This isn't Europe.","attachment":null,"posted":1712526954},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717406,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717359
How weak are you?","attachment":null,"posted":1712532428},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
I just wear normal clothes with some boots in my pack is my wet weather gear. It really depends on the hike and length. The hideous colors and gear like that is just what the mainstream brands sell.","attachment":null,"posted":1712533771},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717376
Lol. Might as well be. Appalachians are eaaasy to navigate. There's legit landmarks every couple miles in any direction.","attachment":null,"posted":1712534887},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717359
>imagine needing to limit yourself to under 20 pounds of gear just so you can keep track of it
Skill issue, indeed","attachment":null,"posted":1712535219},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717424
You're talking about trails. I'm talking about the wilderness. You can't see more than 50 yards most of the time, landmarks are completely useless.","attachment":null,"posted":1712536666},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717406
>weight doesn’t matter
Let me guess: camping is supposed to be uncomfortable, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1712545839},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717498,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717490
20lbs is how much my dick weighs. Buy a plate carrier and train.","attachment":null,"posted":1712547357},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717499,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717436
Lmao wilderness on the east coast. Just look for the cracker barrel billboard and walk over to it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712547432},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717506,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Antisocial freaks should sui instead of dragging down society with them","attachment":null,"posted":1712549356},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717498
>t has cancer in his dick","attachment":null,"posted":1712558558},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717554,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717499
>t. got lost in Fremont park once, hasn't left Sacramento since","attachment":null,"posted":1712564593},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717591,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717506
Neat. But this is the outdoors board, not the society board","attachment":null,"posted":1712577273},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717499
Northern New England, upstate NY, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky are full of places where even the most experienced outdoorsmen could easily get lost and die, and where you could squat and live off the land for the rest of your life and probably never be found.","attachment":null,"posted":1712577980},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717597,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717499
Eastern America is kind of like Japan, densely populated urban zones that abruptly transition into huge mountainous regions that are virtually uninhabited. The West has lower population density, but also way less forest, so it's not really comparable. Lots of shit is way too easy out west.","attachment":null,"posted":1712578194},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717603,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717187
You leap around on all fours like a little fox.
Furry.","attachment":null,"posted":1712580423},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717604,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I love my bright jacket. If I hurt myself people can see me.
What are you hiding from, anyway? There's nothing out there.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712580667956933.jpg","filename":"PXL_20230408_001206764.jpg"},"posted":1712580667},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717604
Unironically, why do you look like that?","attachment":null,"posted":1712580859},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717604
Mirin those thick and juicy elephant calves, bro.","attachment":null,"posted":1712581069},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710227
Counter example this absolute faggotron I saw at the top of kili I can only assume he was paid to wear this shit","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712581574733483.jpg","filename":"IMG_0710.jpg"},"posted":1712581574},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
what's with all those tactical gears and clothes?
why can't you wear normal clothing?
straight jeans, a normal shirt and if it rains, a plastic bag.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712581848925883.jpg","filename":"tacc.jpg"},"posted":1712581848},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Have you got your tactical stealth whistle in matt black too?","attachment":null,"posted":1712582105},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717604
Hassans walls?","attachment":null,"posted":1712582186},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717604
cost 2 euro not 700 and protects you better then yours","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712582198801879.jpg","filename":"plastic.jpg"},"posted":1712582198},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717633,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717617
More like Hassan Piker","attachment":null,"posted":1712584124},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717653,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717604
>What are you hiding from, anyway? There's nothing out there.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712588385174555.png","filename":"FE-K4utWYAQ88cx.png"},"posted":1712588385},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717655,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717618
The crinkle is annoying and you look stupid","attachment":null,"posted":1712588545},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717665,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717612
>I saw this guy this one time
Check your autism and give a serious effort to understand what averages and exceptions are.","attachment":null,"posted":1712589463},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717669,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717604
There are people. I don't want people to see me before I see them. Most people are harmless but some are not and I want to scrutinize every single person I encounter without their knowledge and decide calmly whether I want to just continue on normally or go around them. If there's a bunch of guys on 4 wheelers with guns saying the N word in conversation then I'm not going to let them see me and I'm going to a quick press check.","attachment":null,"posted":1712589787},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717597
>less forest
To be fair, this is because the west coast actually has mountains. There are rain forests in the west as well.","attachment":null,"posted":1712590669},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717665
>anecdote
>counteranecdote
just going with the flow of the thread anon","attachment":null,"posted":1712591866},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717669
You are a massive faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1712591956},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717669
>4 bros hanging out plinking talking freely in nature
>"They said nigger! I better get ready to kill if needed!"
Are you actually black or just really sensitive?","attachment":null,"posted":1712592421},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717723,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717696
I'm actually black and I've been a victim of unprovoked violence multiple times.","attachment":null,"posted":1712596317},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717725,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717692
Neither of which proved OP’s point, because OP is just parroting memes.","attachment":null,"posted":1712596447},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717740,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717723
Why are you leaving your designated containment zones? Who is funding you to move places like arizona and colorado? Why are you suddenly appearing?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712597571315480.jpg","filename":"Ginza_area_at_dusk_from_Tokyo_Tower.jpg"},"posted":1712597571},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717742,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712339
Because Finland is a first world functioning state. Russia is a mongol scrapyard.","attachment":null,"posted":1712598193},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717752,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717740
I grew up in the country and I will stay there. If anyone ever confronted me in a secluded area and I detected any kind of racial hostility however slight I will draw and fire upon that person instantly without any intermediate escalation or even a single word.","attachment":null,"posted":1712599365},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717764,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717752
>I grew up in the country and I will stay there.
Based.
>If anyone ever confronted me in a secluded area and I detected any kind of racial hostility however slight I will draw and fire upon that person instantly without any intermediate escalation or even a single word.
But here you turn into the usual suspect again. Should've stopped at step 1.","attachment":null,"posted":1712600042},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717764
I don't care. Black people largely deserve to be mistrusted and even hated, but when that is turned against me, I'm going to be the one who walks away. It's just survival.","attachment":null,"posted":1712600250},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717767
>more Django: Unchained fantasies
Yeah man sorry can't help you with that.","attachment":null,"posted":1712600417},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717770
Then what do you suggest I do? Give the other guy any fucking chance whatsoever to win when the stakes are life and death? Being called a larper is a very small price to pay to stay alive.","attachment":null,"posted":1712600646},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717774,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717773
>in this scenario ive made up in my head a guy confronts me and calls me blackie and i shoot him because otherwise he would have surely shot me
>i spin my gun, tip my hat and say "nothing personnel kidd"
>i get on my horse (also black) and ride into the sunset","attachment":null,"posted":1712600753},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717776,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717774
I'm sure all violence seems like a fantasy to you. Unfortunately for me it has been a recurring feature of reality. Sometimes that was my fault and I had options to avoid it. Other times that was not the case. Either way, I plan to win.","attachment":null,"posted":1712600967},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717777,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717776
>Sometimes that was my fault
>Either way, I plan to win
Usual suspect.","attachment":null,"posted":1712601020},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717777
If you ever see a black man on the trail, just make sure to be polite. That's the best policy with everyone anyway.","attachment":null,"posted":1712601134},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717781,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717777
quads checked","attachment":null,"posted":1712601265},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717778
You're not doing yourself any favors.","attachment":null,"posted":1712601355},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717723
Statistics say that was done to you by other blacks","attachment":null,"posted":1712602311},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717796,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717793
I've met maybe 3 other black people in my entire life","attachment":null,"posted":1712602556},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717796
Then you're clearly a statistical outlier and your personal experiences mean absolutely nothing to anybody else and you're a fool if you think they're any kind of predictor of behavior.","attachment":null,"posted":1712602862},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717802,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717796
So it's happened 3 times then?","attachment":null,"posted":1712602874},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717793
that's not how statistics work, friendo","attachment":null,"posted":1712603797},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"part of me tells me i should logically own something bright if i ever get into trouble and need someone to find me
most of me knows if i ever die innawoods i will never be found because i was just too cool to walk along trails","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712604263158841.jpg","filename":"1559543548506.jpg"},"posted":1712604263},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717858,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717802
No, everyone I've ever had a violent altercation with was white. Some of them were strangers who I did nothing to.","attachment":null,"posted":1712607559},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717669
Brugly you need meds. Badly. It's not okay to be this schizophrenic.","attachment":null,"posted":1712611545},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717894,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717889
I'd rather be schizophrenic than have a false sense of security","attachment":null,"posted":1712612000},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717935,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717723
>unprovoked attacks
Pot to kettle
And saying nigger doesn't cound as provocation to attack someone.
Anyways stay strapped with your glawk fawty for killer racists coming out of the trees.","attachment":null,"posted":1712623043},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2717937,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717347
>The most predictable low rolling hills in the most populated region of America are the hardest to navigate
lol. lmao even.","attachment":null,"posted":1712623955},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718004,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717605
With the jacket zipped all the way up?
I just did it for the photo because I thought it would be kinda funny. It was drizzling though and I did have the hood up, just not zipped up like that.
>>2717605
Thank you homie
>>2717617
Hidden Gorge at Mount Remarkable
>>2717618
Not true. That guy's arms would get wet and his hood would fly off in the breeze. Plus that poncho would be sticky and not let out the sweat. Ponchos also don't work that well with a pack, and thin ones rip very easily since there is lots of extra material. If you have to buy a new one every time it's not very good.
>>2717653
I wouldn't worry about it
>>2717669
Hmm. Interesting point. If you are solo hiking in the middle of nowhere or a place where hardly anyone goes then perhaps I understand. People like myself who wear bright colours are usually on well known trails or safer areas in general when they do it. Many shell jackets are made for alpine conditions, so you can understand why people want to be easily seen in that scenario. You wouldn't want to blend in with the snow if an accident happened.
If you were real back-country and alone I can see that you'd be more nervous about your personal safety.
I also have a camo jacket if I want to do some more stealth camping type stuff.
I just think trying to look like you're hiding while on a public trail is a bit silly.
Pic is me on Mont Blanc with my camo shell jacket. Didn't climb the mountain, just took the cable car as we only had a day in Chamonix.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712640872026012.jpg","filename":"PXL_20230710_164108414.jpg"},"posted":1712640872},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717669
>>2717723
>>2717776
Go be disingenuous somewhere else, lad.","attachment":null,"posted":1712643533},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718024,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718004
Lad... no. Just no.","attachment":null,"posted":1712645597},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718035,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717776
This isn't true but I wish it were.","attachment":null,"posted":1712649592},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717347
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha","attachment":null,"posted":1712649655},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718045,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717723
Perhaps you should stop hanging out with your family","attachment":null,"posted":1712651012},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718055,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Only faggots and women care what other people wear.
>nooo you're enjoying the outdoors wrong, I don't like the color of your jacket.
How fucked in the head do you have to be to actually think this?","attachment":null,"posted":1712654140},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713349
Mystery meat asian?","attachment":null,"posted":1712655087},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718084,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This only proves that the stupidest threads are the most engaged with threads.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712665016532371.gif","filename":"fgfgfh.gif"},"posted":1712665016},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718084
Would you like another ten boot threads instead? Or maybe a savotta pack thread?","attachment":null,"posted":1712668121},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718004
Anon, while a disposable poncho isn’t a very good choice, you’re wrong about them being “sticky” and not “letting out the sweat.” Ponchos work very well at being ventilated. Thats one of the reasons people use them despite their failures. And ponchos slip over backpacks.","attachment":null,"posted":1712670868},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718172,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718091
those are definitely the only other options, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1712683506},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718173,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710487
I’m not a kindergartener.","attachment":null,"posted":1712683610},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718172
Unironically yes","attachment":null,"posted":1712684102},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718247,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718024
Grow up
>>2718101
I guess they do have the ultimate vented armpit hey? That makes them flap around a fair bit in the wind, though. Probably less good for driving rain or more severe conditions in general. You also have to get a certain type to slip over a big backpack otherwise it messes up the whole system and your entire back is exposed.
Here is my buddy from a hike. The poncho sorta worked well for him, but he ended up tucking it under the pack because the wind was just blowing it around with it draped over his pack.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712697357857463.jpg","filename":"PXL_20230408_001049398.jpg"},"posted":1712697357},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718363,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712664
>lives in western Washington
>calls people faggots
Pot, Kettle, etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1712722044},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718370,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718247
Lad... don't be a disappointment to yourself. You're already a disappointment to me.","attachment":null,"posted":1712722932},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718372,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717612
Nah this dude is megabased and literally living in your head rent free.","attachment":null,"posted":1712723130},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718376,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718370
I honestly don't know what you're talking about, "lad".
I don't care at all if I've disappointed you. What have you ever done? Why do you think I should care? You are nobody.
I am very proud of the person I am. I have a wonderful wife, hobbies, and friends.","attachment":null,"posted":1712723974},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718461,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710454
And those people you are describing don't wear bright colors. Social brained normies actually wear less bright colors than ever before because they are afraid of standing out. The only people that still wear bright colors are upper-middle class white people with strong values, humility and a self image that won't get shattered by someone not liking their color choice.
>>2710455
You guys ironically care more about your appearance more than the people you project onto that don't care.
>>2710522
The 1970s IS before smartphones anon...","attachment":null,"posted":1712759043},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710475
based. the thrift store is pretty good for brand name synthetics, especially base layers. i did find my olive drab LL bean down parka on FB marketplace for $20 though
>>2717347
we don't use switchbacks, which is based. i've climbed some easy normie-tier mountains like mt success, that sometimes had long lengths of smooth wet granite. some of the harder mountains require you to basically climb up a series of boulders. also the large amount of fallen trees the second you go off trail to find a campsite. for me, it's the long trail
>>2717596
i was in the green mountains for the 1st stage of my eclipse journey and there were plenty of remote unpaved roads with very steep ascents and lots of sharp curves. it's the perfect place for some tesla faggot to kill his battery and roll backwards off the road just trying to get to the trailhead, which can be miles down another dirt road that abruptly ends
>>2717752
how stereotypical
>>2717937
lmoa even *","attachment":null,"posted":1712763980},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718173
Then why are you dressing like one","attachment":null,"posted":1712768387},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718523,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713008
Well first of all people poach year round, and you just really don't want to scare other people in the woods and have them think you are a bear. You want them to know its a human asap.
Second reason hi vis makes sense is for rescue, pretty self explanatory but if your friend breaks their leg and you are both dressed in all black, by the time a rescue heli comes in at 6pm you would be tougher to spot.
Additionally if you are in real dangerous backcountry, for example foothills of the rockies in alberta where you will see bears every other week and share spaces with them. Some of these bears have been conditioned to be afraid of Hivis colors because of oil and gas and logging guys honking at them and giving them a hard time when they see them. This is part of the reason that yearling bears are so dangerous because they have not yet been trained.
Pic rel is a black bear that I had the pleasure of sharing a block with doing some forestry work, I basically followed him into the treeline but before I did I put a splash of diesel on my shoulder and test fired my spray onto my boot. It's all part of the deterrant package.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712770924267888.png","filename":"blackie.png"},"posted":1712770924},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717347
>absolute mess of dead blow down trees that make up the forest floor.
>trees out west dont blow down
lol","attachment":null,"posted":1712772062},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717347
I tend to agree but it does depend, and has more to do with the underlying geology than the tree typing. For example there are much more difficult to navigate types of forest like those in which it used to be swampy and all of the black spruce have since died creating walls and hurdles everywhere of extremely sharp impassable small trees. But because this happens in flat areas where water can accumulate the terrain isn't so rough and in the winter can even be said to be nice.
Contrast that with appalache you see rolling shield hills everywhere, loose rocks from glacial sedimentation, etc.
It really varies though because if you are walking through a mature forest offpiste the spruce trees with limbs all the way to the ground like you see in Kinbaskett, revelstoke, etc are very much impassable.","attachment":null,"posted":1712772423},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718532,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718531
and just generally sharper, maples are really welcome compared to a hemlock or a pine, quite prickly.","attachment":null,"posted":1712772516},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718534,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717597
>the West has lower population density, but also way less forest,
Citation needed. For example Montana has 26 million acres of forest, West Virgina only 12, Washinton State has 26 million acres, Maine only 17 million acres, Oregon has 29 million acres of forest, NY only 18 million, CA has 31 million acres of forest, VT and NH combined only 9 million, Idaho has 22 million acres while N. Carolina only 18 million....
So, I am curious as to why you believe what you wrote....","attachment":null,"posted":1712772716},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718534
>Washinton State has 26 million acres
Sorry, that should be 22 million acres but still...","attachment":null,"posted":1712772821},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718513
I don’t wear high vis vests.","attachment":null,"posted":1712772898},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718538,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718536
So you've never worked a single blue collar job.","attachment":null,"posted":1712774557},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718547,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718538
This just in: plumbers wear high-vis.","attachment":null,"posted":1712775935},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718551,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717597
>huge mountainous regions that are virtually uninhabited
...and the Rockies are what?","attachment":null,"posted":1712776518},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718555,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718547
Absolutely they do, yes.","attachment":null,"posted":1712777183},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718538
The conversation was about the clothing people choose to wear while engaging in outdoor recreation, not clothing they're forced to wear during work. But no, I haven't worked a blue collar job. Unless, of course, summer jobs count.","attachment":null,"posted":1712783605},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So after reading these high level arguments on the thread, I must ask
Should I go with a dark navy or black lightweight raincoat? I was considering dark navy since black doesn't seem like an /out/ color but I'm interested to hear what you guys have to say about it","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712806623245555.jpg","filename":"1658460215206552.jpg"},"posted":1712806623},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710487
People actually wear those?","attachment":null,"posted":1712806825},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718691,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2712317
reminder that this is a picture of a single row of gas stations and rest stops at an interstate crossing surrounded by farms, game lands and state forests. It has a population of less than 200 people and the county its in has an average population density of less than 1/10th the average population density of the UK or Germany","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712810031745283.jpg","filename":"visitpa_The%20Alleghenies_Breezewood_drone.jpg"},"posted":1712810031},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
to blend in so mountain bikers run us off the trail. they cant see these colors.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712811647771653.jpg","filename":"IMG_2106.jpg"},"posted":1712811647},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718676
Olive","attachment":null,"posted":1712822620},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718758,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718676
If you are on the local walking trail: dark navy
If you are a professional or doing any type of dangerous alpine pursuit: bright colour","attachment":null,"posted":1712830943},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718854,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717597
>The West has lower population density, but also way less forest,
You cant be this retarded.","attachment":null,"posted":1712849259},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717597
Please refer to the image.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712858127289774.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240411_125452_Gallery.jpg"},"posted":1712858127},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718914,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717260
It works great on an actual mountain where you are scrambling rocks and not an eastern mud hill where you need fucking crutches to walk up a 5% grade.","attachment":null,"posted":1712858206},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718916,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718913
Exibit b","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712858318899583.jpg","filename":"Federal-Lands-United-States-Map.jpg"},"posted":1712858318},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718758
What if I'm doing a common but potentially dangerous from weather and terrain back country mountain ascent like King's Peak in Utah?","attachment":null,"posted":1712861703},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">muh West","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712861715744635.jpg","filename":"FDA54E90-EA6A-4B81-96A7-A1BF07B529F9.jpg"},"posted":1712861715},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718923
>Alpine and scree terrain confuses the easterner because his mountains don't go that high.","attachment":null,"posted":1712862042},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718935,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718923
>muh West
lol","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712862450383518.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-03-25 at 2.55.19 PM.png"},"posted":1712862450},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2718963,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718923
Colorado isn't the West, faggy.","attachment":null,"posted":1712865160},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2719719,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718963
Everything west of the mississippi is the west. The midwest are the plains states. The great lake states are the middle east, not the midwest.","attachment":null,"posted":1713056457},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2719816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718523
All extremely valid points
Only reason I avoid clothes with hideous colors is usually because they're expensive and made of synthetics that immediately get holes with campfires. Wool is also a big standard in Scandi countries, so I use a lot of it. It all depends on what type of camping people do, there's no right or wrong","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713097024014543.png","filename":"pæls.png"},"posted":1713097024},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2719842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719816
The plastic söy patrol will come for you","attachment":null,"posted":1713101966},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2719843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719719
The midwest begins in Michigan. Everything east of Detroit is part of the northeast including Cleveland.","attachment":null,"posted":1713102005},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2719852,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719842
Nigga we don't care. I love wearing wool in my day to day. It's just too heavy for the benefits if I'm gonna be running 15-20 mile days.","attachment":null,"posted":1713105179},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2720114,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Because contrasting colors make for better pictures on social media.","attachment":null,"posted":1713180428},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2720998,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710341
Real.","attachment":null,"posted":1713317003},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2721005,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718928
There are higher mountains that are completely forested. Elevation is why this is a barren wasteland, but you can go ahead and pretend like you already knew that.","attachment":null,"posted":1713317876},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2721023,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721005
>The easterner copes about bigger mountains than his by pointing out that there are even bigger mountains that also aren't his.","attachment":null,"posted":1713320959},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2721544,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718376
Lad. No.","attachment":null,"posted":1713421049},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2722837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716694
If they need to talk to you, they will leave a voicemail. It's that simple.","attachment":null,"posted":1713716879},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2722852,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>>2710224
When in Rome...So I'll have some colorful clothes and kit, but also some camo stuff on tap. A thread like this exists because people can feel uneasy if a fully-kitted camo dude suddenly appears before them. Keep the normies happy and usually all is well.
>>2710225
Disagree, browns tans and greens are nice, especially as pant/short colors. Go nuts up top. Put on a friendly face and all that. Maybe even God Forbid make some friends with the normies in your area and have hiking buddies on tap, of all persuasions from amateur-hour tiktokkers to paranoid smelly vets.
>>2710227
I do like sky blue.
>>2710341
Yes. Sometimes there's good deals to be had amongst the goofy colored stuff.
>>2710379
A notable risk. Fair.
>>2710439
EVERYONE in the southwest tints their shit. You can literally spot the out of state lost folks by how untinted their stuff is. Though there's also the topless jeep types in my area. YMMV depending on the clime you live in though.
>>2710487
Decent idea. Most people will actually mistake you for a trail maintainer of some kind. But they will see you and it's very easy to pack.
>>2710527
>multicam is kinda cucked anyway
Disagree, when I do wear full camo and kit I am pretty decently covered in my area. Again, location specific.
Wow this goes on. I'll end with saying I know a boomer in my area who pray painted his 1911 Hunter Orange after he almost lost it innawoods. He showed me a pic and goofy as it was, he'll never lose that due to it blending again.
People just wear what you want and don't be afraid to be admired or jeered at on this pinecone comparison forum of peace.","attachment":null,"posted":1713720181},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2723092,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721544
You are retarded, "lad". Grow up","attachment":null,"posted":1713759311},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2723119,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>Why would you want other people to see you before you see them?
nigga you aren't in hunger games, people aren't out there to get you while you're on your little camping trip.","attachment":null,"posted":1713767519},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2723231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723119
Let em larp. It's all they have.","attachment":null,"posted":1713792343},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2724189,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717723
>I'm actually black
Why","attachment":null,"posted":1713997020},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2725617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723119
You don't understand this board.","attachment":null,"posted":1714354934},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2725963,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717815
The hash slinging slasher","attachment":null,"posted":1714429864},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2725964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>like sitting at the very first table in the break room with your back to entrance.
Most people don't have their emotional growth stuck at middle-school level.","attachment":null,"posted":1714430102},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2726183,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This is an interesting question even though I think your conclusions are stupid and full of poo. Why do backpackers wear bright colors? Is it a visibility thing or just a cultural norm? Like a social signal "I am outdoors recreationally"","attachment":null,"posted":1714475074},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2726334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710522
gatekeeping going outside is crazy ngl you should probably kys lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1714504994},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2726341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
>Why would you want other people to see you before you see them?
so they can be rescued if lost, or body recovered if dead. also to prevent hunters from shooting you on accident. this is some common sense shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1714505408},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2726343,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710251
because people panic when they get lost and forget basic things, especially women and children. a few years ago a grandmother and granddaughter were hiking along the coast in my country. the coast, as in the coast of the ocean, as in there is absolutely no way to not know what direction is north/south/east/west. All she had to do was face the opposite direction of the ocean, walk in a straight line any direction up the hill and she would find a road within 1/4 a mile. But she couldnt do it. Her little kid was crying and being difficult, she herself started breaking down, they wandered into some brush on a hill and started to panic because she no longer recognized the trail she started on. all she could do was phone for help and had to pay 800$ to get a helicopter to pick her up.
congradulations on having a brain attached to a penis anon, it's a much bigger advantage then people like to admit.","attachment":null,"posted":1714505677},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2726368,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726334
>gatekeeping bad","attachment":null,"posted":1714509101},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2726709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Vibrant colors on vibrant people silly","attachment":null,"posted":1714582828},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2728850,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726334
I think you're on the wrong board, buckley.","attachment":null,"posted":1715014288},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2728896,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718676
Go with ranger green or coyote like a boss.
The voices in my head start getting loud when people can see me outside, so I'm about all this camo shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715022251},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2729637,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Search and rescue here.
Lost/ injured hikers in bright colours are found pretty much straight away, helicopter spotters can see them from literally miles away.
Geometric, reflective, colourful, moving, silhouette, yea you get found, line search finds you just as easily but the reality is that line search can only cover a very small area.
People who wear camo just aren't found. If we hear someone set off in camo do we even send a helicopter at all? Line search where? We run the trails but the fool could be ten meters off the trail hiding, unconscious, we might just miss them. Often the person is found in an altered state, mental health, drugs, fatigue, dehydration, paranoia, ask of the above. They need help or they might die, but don't realise that
We're also suspicious of people in camo because they could be trying to ambush other hikers. I've had very stem words in the back of the truck with hikers who set off in plain clothes and were subsequently found in camo. Many hikers will immediately report someone in camo as a personal safely threat and they're not dumb for doing that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715175833},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2729644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729637
Based baitpost.
This was actually pretty entertaining, 6/10. Could've been a bit more subtle though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715178770},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2729646,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729637
>tmw you wind up dead because you were wearing a hawaiian shirt and some boomer reported you for being suspicious to the SAR bitch that hates camo","attachment":null,"posted":1715178995},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2729648,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729646
Don't respond to trolls.","attachment":null,"posted":1715179038},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2729650,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729648
>sub 1min response time
What's the pay of a pretend jannie these days?","attachment":null,"posted":1715179290},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2729680,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729650
$38/h. Not good, not bad.","attachment":null,"posted":1715183459},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2729687,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710250
>wearing bright colors makes you a fag
>wearing full camo and LARP gear does not make you a fag
Yeah OK anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715183921},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2729694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Same reason hunters wear orange.","attachment":null,"posted":1715184632},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730203,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710527
I think there’s a big dichotomy on this board of people who backpack vs. people who bushcraft and way too much autistic reeeeeeeee coming from both sides who misunderstand the other. If I was doing a bushcrafting trip that involved hunting I would definitely want camouflaged gear, but it’s utterly pointless and silly for backpacking. OP is an aspy retard that doesn’t seem to understand the rationale behind backpacker gear color being pretty much irrelevant. OP wears the camo but idk if they understand what it’s actually for","attachment":null,"posted":1715281096},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730209,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729687
Who is more of a faggot? The retard sticking out like a sore thumb in his baby-blue jacket? Or the retard in full flecktarn?
If only there was a third option, like just wearing muted colors. Sadly we'll never know.","attachment":null,"posted":1715282860},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730203
>people who backpack vs. people who bushcraft
The dichotomy is actually "people who backpack" and "larpers who stay inside and scream about gear" for what it's worth, otherwise you're correct.","attachment":null,"posted":1715285311},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I like wearing bright colors in the spring and summer and darker colors in the fall and winter. If you care what other people wear, you are a dork.","attachment":null,"posted":1715286943},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730227,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730209
The flecktarn faggot is the biggest faggot no contest.","attachment":null,"posted":1715287673},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730219
>t. terminally /in/ keyboard trail guide","attachment":null,"posted":1715288108},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730234,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730227
>answering hypothetical questions
Do you want me to explain the point of that post more clearly? Not being a vibrant tree frog doesn't mean you have to be a milsurp faggot, or the other way around. You can just be a normal guy, like the guy way to the right in OP's image.","attachment":null,"posted":1715288372},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730231
Yeah but he’s not wrong though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715289350},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730241,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
What am I supposed to be seeing here? None of these colors are that jarring. Sky blue isn’t the best but it’s not that terrible.
Pic is made by Town Shirt. It’s $70 and marketed toward thruhikers. I think the purposefully ugly shirt trend started on the PCT. It seems to be more common there than on the AT, but that’s just via social media. I guess it’s not the same as just wearing bright colors, but the concept is the same: visibility (as in “look at me,” not for any kind of emergency or whatever).","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715290016527027.jpg","filename":"388E5B96-B77D-489A-AD51-CDC8C2272966.jpg"},"posted":1715290016},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730241
what a joke i wear thrift store shit i got from the town i stopped in, costs like 10 bucks, and i support the community not these yuppies. Also if you wear the same clothes hiking for 6 months you are fucking disgusting.","attachment":null,"posted":1715291165},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm more concerned with how "dude outdoors lmao" has somehow been made fashionable","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715292180071787.jpg","filename":"lol rei.jpg"},"posted":1715292180},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710251
Idk try going outside for once in your life, go get lost OR go walk through some "shared" land and see why people like highly visible colors when they hike.","attachment":null,"posted":1715304362},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730331,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710379
This is the real, honest deal answer","attachment":null,"posted":1715304433},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730338,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730241
>70 dollars
Yeah, they'd have to cater that towards idiots","attachment":null,"posted":1715305851},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730687,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
yeah last time i had a camo bag and a camo jacket i got funny looks from people because do you really wanna be lost in the woods, injured, wearing camo so the people searching for you don't see you??","attachment":null,"posted":1715386136},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2730886,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717669
Guys, I think this one's a nigger","attachment":null,"posted":1715444113},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2731674,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710563
Y-yeah…I’d probably wrap my legs around someone who pounced on me like that","attachment":null,"posted":1715619545},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2731679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717669
>If there's a bunch of guys on 4 wheelers with guns saying the N word in conversation
Sounds like the people I wanna encounter","attachment":null,"posted":1715620264},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2731682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718916
Texasbros..","attachment":null,"posted":1715620554},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2731686,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719719
>The great lake states are the middle east
Well that certainly makes sense for Michigan with how many Muslims are there kek","attachment":null,"posted":1715620624},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2731728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Retard OP and several others ITT don't know that the bright and conspicuous colors are for other hunters and rescue to spot you clearly
Holy shit, it really is true that no one on this board actually goes outside.","attachment":null,"posted":1715627708},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2731731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710503
Learn how to read, you drooling sped.","attachment":null,"posted":1715627799},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2731735,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Why do hiking gear manufacturers MAKE things in these hideous colours? Half the time I'm shopping for a nice natural colour and all I see are bright blue, orange, yellow. I'm not an arctic explorer, and if I were, I'd prefer to wear clothing that complemented the scenery.","attachment":null,"posted":1715628049},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2732587,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
because when im in the wild i want to wear bright colours so other people and things can see me you dumb fuck. wearing a green shirt isnt going to hide you from a fucking bear, itll smell you before it sees you","attachment":null,"posted":1715848765},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2732599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
Bright colors are for women. Refer to your own pic.","attachment":null,"posted":1715853917},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2732601,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718935
Fuck yes I loved how I could just go for a wander anywhere and find a huge comfy mossy covered rock to sink into when I lived in BC. So soft.","attachment":null,"posted":1715854166},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2732602,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD who came to earth and died for the world, so that may have eternal life. Three days later GOD rose Jesus Christ from the dead. He promised that whosever believes in Him, He promised them eternal, when the ask Him for it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715854377},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2732603,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729637
>If we hear someone set off in camo do we even send a helicopter at all?
>We're also suspicious of people in camo because they could be trying to ambush other hikers.
Jfc you're fucking useless aren't you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715854768},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2732815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710230
thats the whole fucking point retard
its so if there's an emergency or you injure yourself you're easy to find.
fuck man /out/ has fucking falling since all the newfags invaded in 2020","attachment":null,"posted":1715903328},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2733524,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710251
>hundreds of free offline map apps
Shill me one I don’t wanna pay for alltrails goyslop app","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716110479965921.jpg","filename":"IMG_0709.jpg"},"posted":1716110479},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2733527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"310","attachment":null,"posted":1716112629},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2733528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731728
Yeah, this. I have to wear high visibility ugly shit when I go out because of hunters and because I also want people to find my body if something happens. I'm not doing a fucking fashion show.","attachment":null,"posted":1716116968},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2733561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733524
I've used Navit in the past, but every update breaks the older android versions. Currently, I'm using osmand. You have to get it through f-droid for the free version (on google, they charge a small amount to make up for platform costs), but it works pretty well. The standard maps include height maps and terrain maps as well as standard road maps.
I don't get how people can get lost, though. If you understand basic land navigation (not that meme shit with compass and counting steps, but things like sectoring or defining stoplines), you should always know your position down to a few km. Won't help you find a geocache or a camping spot, but you'll always be able to get back to town or to your car.","attachment":null,"posted":1716124712},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2733632,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733561
Thanks anon, I’ll try them. Literally never been lost but backup never hurts.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716136404960367.jpg","filename":"IMG_0433.jpg"},"posted":1716136404},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2733798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730248
>up to 3xl
kek","attachment":null,"posted":1716160654},{"board":"out","thread":2710223,"pid":2734078,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710223
if you fall and die the helicopter search and rescue will be able to find you more easily if you wear bright colors","attachment":null,"posted":1716214799}]}
{"title":"recent out","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2719925,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"post your photos","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713127508996366.jpg","filename":"5023400144578067.jpg"},"posted":1713127508},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720048,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925
Texas?","attachment":null,"posted":1713152075},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720139,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My tarp had a hole in it so my sleeping bag got wet :(","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713184037981166.jpg","filename":"IMG_5857.jpg"},"posted":1713184037},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720273,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925
things are greening up down in the valleys but it takes longer in the high country","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713201403729579.jpg","filename":"IMG_2320.jpg"},"posted":1713201403},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713201963660155.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240403_165859053.MP_exported_366.jpg"},"posted":1713201963},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720291,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713203130022730.jpg","filename":"20240415_133551.jpg"},"posted":1713203130},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720293,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720291","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713203320112181.jpg","filename":"20240415_133624.jpg"},"posted":1713203320},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720293","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713203453982537.jpg","filename":"20240415_133703.jpg"},"posted":1713203453},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720295,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720294","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713203562983822.jpg","filename":"20240415_133752.jpg"},"posted":1713203562},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720298,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720293
I love a good meadow sunset.
>>2720294
Wetlands are based. I got high desert and highland scrub oak to coniferous forest and alpine terrain where I'm at but I miss a good broadleaf wetland. Wouldn't wanna hike it much though.","attachment":null,"posted":1713203792},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720295","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713203947757998.jpg","filename":"20240415_135745.jpg"},"posted":1713203947},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720302,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720048
Virginia","attachment":null,"posted":1713203954},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720298","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713204026117602.jpg","filename":"20240415_134000.jpg"},"posted":1713204026},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720305,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720303","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713204104790068.jpg","filename":"20240317_332200.jpg"},"posted":1713204104},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720308,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720305","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713204183815947.jpg","filename":"20240415_140228.jpg"},"posted":1713204183},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720309,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720308","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713204267296278.jpg","filename":"20240412_210308.jpg"},"posted":1713204267},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720298
Yeah you have to wade around in bottom lands and pick your way around but I could piddle around in them all day looking at the different plants and all.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713204513193157.jpg","filename":"20240412_210340.jpg"},"posted":1713204513},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713206576602341.jpg","filename":"3918092786891694.jpg"},"posted":1713206576},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720566,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I just biked the C&O Canal","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713228694400444.jpg","filename":"IMG_0837.jpg"},"posted":1713228694},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720572,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720341
Cool waterfall. Is the pool at the bottom swimmable?","attachment":null,"posted":1713229585},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720691,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713264301618663.jpg","filename":"33D67ACF-D423-41C3-8A4F-9065B6C220B5.jpg"},"posted":1713264301},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720691","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713264376678612.jpg","filename":"E1C07779-AC24-4BF9-9767-CB9F6F9FDED9.jpg"},"posted":1713264376},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720692","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713264537064085.jpg","filename":"A0E707E8-41B1-4470-A3D1-7E6E3AACCD37.jpg"},"posted":1713264537},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720840,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"camping on the beach","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713291586869046.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240325_080707446.jpg"},"posted":1713291586},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720841,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720840","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713291695229806.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240324_183051675.NIGHT.jpg"},"posted":1713291695},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720845,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720841
hiking in the rainforest","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713291869347256.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240327_102750061.jpg"},"posted":1713291869},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720848,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720845","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713291967738684.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240401_102141837.jpg"},"posted":1713291967},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720853,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720848
boat trip","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713292369636163.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240406_143159650.jpg"},"posted":1713292369},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720854,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720572
Not unless you want to die, well not at that water level anyways.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713292466863056.jpg","filename":"7608867450933876.jpg"},"posted":1713292466},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720880,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713295046907020.jpg","filename":"2541941225710823.jpg"},"posted":1713295046},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720885,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713295797125987.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240403_173737033.NIGHT.jpg"},"posted":1713295797},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2720911,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713299436019350.jpg","filename":"20240414_142308.jpg"},"posted":1713299436},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2721160,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"check this shit out YO
1/3","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713369056011505.jpg","filename":"20240407_142501.jpg"},"posted":1713369056},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2721162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721160
2/3","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713369124999132.jpg","filename":"20240407_160137.jpg"},"posted":1713369124},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2721163,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721162
3/3","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713369205078286.jpg","filename":"20240406_172650.jpg"},"posted":1713369205},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2721247,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925
Im going /out/ in a few days, i'll post when im back","attachment":null,"posted":1713381315},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2721525,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713418065712112.jpg","filename":"8037966777019655.jpg"},"posted":1713418065},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2721526,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713418223252208.jpg","filename":"6782990035341835.jpg"},"posted":1713418223},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2721531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713418698611499.jpg","filename":"5521693682914837.jpg"},"posted":1713418698},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2721636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Me and some buddies had a few drinks in our snow cave last weekend, then slept there.
Shit was pretty comfy.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713444146901952.jpg","filename":"SnowCave.jpg"},"posted":1713444146},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2721637,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721636
Second entrance to the cave.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713444297139739.jpg","filename":"SnowCave2.jpg"},"posted":1713444297},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2722005,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713513170200294.jpg","filename":"777F2AB9-E297-4C7B-9866-7A6953E0C467.jpg"},"posted":1713513170},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2722032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Small lizard fellow.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713527321301212.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240409_151126925.jpg"},"posted":1713527321},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2722347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721637
how long could you stay in shelter like that","attachment":null,"posted":1713586887},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2722354,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713589249283381.jpg","filename":"8871470356574856.jpg"},"posted":1713589249},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2722355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713589712537500.jpg","filename":"1210944981392135.jpg"},"posted":1713589712},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2722357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I live in snow and I recently somewhere warm and it was a torrential downpour so I went for a walk in the rain and I found this real world /pol/ that they have there","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713590079578120.jpg","filename":"IMG_2041.jpg"},"posted":1713590079},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2722924,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hiking up a steep and prominent peak in my area while most of this board stays /in/ and argues over gear","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713729990858384.jpg","filename":"IMG_3428.jpg"},"posted":1713729990},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2722927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722924
almost looks familiar
doesn't look THAT steep but maybe that's just the climb-up-the-spine part, at least the trail is soft and not all rocks
is there a view at the end you could show us?","attachment":null,"posted":1713730265},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2722940,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722927
It looked a lot steeper in real life than in my photos.
There weren't any views up top. I wasn't expecting any. This was primarily a fitness hike. Many more to come so I can stay in shape for the proper mountains this summer.","attachment":null,"posted":1713731802},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722924
>>2722940
based, I also started going on some fitness hikes in preparation for when the snow will melt higher up. There's a 10km loop I can start from my home that quickly ascends 600m to this peaceful little trail that barely anybody goes to. The whole thing is short enough that I can just do it whenever I have a couple of hours of free time, but some parts are really steep so it's still a good training for my legs","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713769822756659.jpg","filename":"924769274463.jpg"},"posted":1713769822},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720295
>>2720841
>>2720693
Amazing spots.
My pic is from a camp ground. Was a bit wet but good to get away and have a fire when it's cold.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713778616577429.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240403_211523040.jpg"},"posted":1713778616},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723158,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723154","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713778875884641.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240403_014736819a.jpg"},"posted":1713778875},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723159,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723158","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713778924390671.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240403_213003632.jpg"},"posted":1713778924},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723160,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723126
You've got some impressive mountains near you. The biggest elevation gain in my region is only 400m so I end up stringing together a bunch of hikes until I reach my desired mileage/gain for the day. That and other cardio workouts (cycling, running up and down stairs, playing sports, etc.) pay dividends whenever I go to bigger mountains and knock them out.","attachment":null,"posted":1713778938},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723163,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723160
>That and other cardio workouts pay dividends whenever I go to bigger mountains and knock them out.
one of the best feelings ever, especially when you go back to a place that fucked you up in the past and reach the top effortlessly","attachment":null,"posted":1713779790},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"recent camping trip","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713845018195593.jpg","filename":"dusk img 2266.jpg"},"posted":1713845018},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"last fall","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713845358353713.jpg","filename":"IMG_6126.jpg"},"posted":1713845358},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Appalachian trail <3","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713846309619991.jpg","filename":"IMG_2064.jpg"},"posted":1713846309},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723530","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713846627260439.jpg","filename":"IMG_2026.jpg"},"posted":1713846627},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723532,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723531","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713846690871142.jpg","filename":"IMG_2004_VSCO.jpg"},"posted":1713846690},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713849517651317.jpg","filename":"DSC_4366.jpg"},"posted":1713849517},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723662,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713879216046204.jpg","filename":"DSC05136.jpg"},"posted":1713879216},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723663,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723662","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713879284219437.jpg","filename":"DSC04529.jpg"},"posted":1713879284},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723664,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723663","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713879421478651.jpg","filename":"GOPR2091.jpg"},"posted":1713879421},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723665,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723664","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713879495138509.jpg","filename":"GOPR2517-compressed.jpg"},"posted":1713879495},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723666,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723665
Stop spamming brugly","attachment":null,"posted":1713879585},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723667,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723665","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713879603441987.jpg","filename":"DSC05614.jpg"},"posted":1713879603},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723669,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723666
One more","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713879673462049.jpg","filename":"DSC05399.jpg"},"posted":1713879673},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723672,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925
River eat tree","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713879907751840.jpg","filename":"20240423_094435.jpg"},"posted":1713879907},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723674,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720048
>texas
>open wilderness
Pick one","attachment":null,"posted":1713879969},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722347
Forever once it collapsed","attachment":null,"posted":1713880141},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713880234702058.jpg","filename":"DSC05068.jpg"},"posted":1713880234},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723677","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713881032512544.jpg","filename":"DSC05241-compressed.jpg"},"posted":1713881032},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723697,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925
Out in the Marshes.
How were your outings my guys.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713882143393687.jpg","filename":"IMG_2180.jpg"},"posted":1713882143},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723682
It's like a realistic Roger Dean combined with non-hell Barlowe","attachment":null,"posted":1713882172},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723682
Oh this one is so beautiful Love the composition.","attachment":null,"posted":1713882225},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713884316550707.jpg","filename":"DSC04552-compressed.jpg"},"posted":1713884316},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723712","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713884917506423.jpg","filename":"DSC05590-compressed.jpg"},"posted":1713884917},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723154
That's beautiful I havent seen trees like those. Yeah, it was a great spot, you could see the whole lowlands and the moutains on the other side.","attachment":null,"posted":1713895681},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723154
>>2723767
pretty sure those are eucalyptus trees which are non-native/invasive. looks like somehwere in the bay area","attachment":null,"posted":1713896093},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723769
I didnt know they get that tall. I also thought they are only in Australia for some reason","attachment":null,"posted":1713899114},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723808,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723787
they got brought over and are now a real problem. Local wildlife dont like them and they are incredibly flammable","attachment":null,"posted":1713902865},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723835,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how much elevation do you guys usually gain in a day out?
I usually gain around 700m/1km, over 5/10km distance, that's on my day hikes, I usually go to the feet of a small mountain, walk up to the ridge, then walk along the ridge until it's finished and come back, usually the part where I get up to the ridge is off trail, and also when I come back down, so it's difficult to get there due to very steep inclination and vegetation/rocks/vertical walls/mud getting in the way, but it gives a good appreciation of how it is to traverse terrain, so now when I look at a map.i know how it would actually be to move there","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713910911827876.jpg","filename":"20240420_093126.jpg"},"posted":1713910911},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723835","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713911047170023.jpg","filename":"20240420_080739.jpg"},"posted":1713911047},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723838,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723837","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713911112805885.jpg","filename":"20240420_092725.jpg"},"posted":1713911112},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713912256203556.jpg","filename":"IMG_0195.jpg"},"posted":1713912256},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2723988,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723769
>>2723787
Pics are from Upper Yarra area of Victoria, Australia","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713940245512136.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240403_073053005.jpg"},"posted":1713940245},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724014,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713954138379128.jpg","filename":"20240420_062259.jpg"},"posted":1713954138},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713954202061429.jpg","filename":"20240420_055917.jpg"},"posted":1713954202},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724033,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713957017560470.jpg","filename":"GOPR2288-compressed.jpg"},"posted":1713957017},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724151,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This is from last year but need to show off the northern lights","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713980584802559.jpg","filename":"0B0829AA-BFA6-412E-82A7-A75A461147E2.jpg"},"posted":1713980584},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724170,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724151
epic","attachment":null,"posted":1713987717},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713991696691821.jpg","filename":"PXL_20231017_164104453.MP.jpg"},"posted":1713991696},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724225,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just got in from a little 5.5 mile hike","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714008975260110.jpg","filename":"Hike.jpg"},"posted":1714008975},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724226,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720692
Where was this taken?","attachment":null,"posted":1714009059},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724229,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723697
i also went into some wetlands this past weekend, still not bright and green yet but i think it'll green up by next week","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714009841958511.jpg","filename":"IMG_6828.jpg"},"posted":1714009841},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They're not thousands of feet above sea level, but they're the hills I have.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714010193987921.jpg","filename":"leatherwood.jpg"},"posted":1714010193},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724232,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Gulf coast","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714011625424077.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240419_141858452.jpg"},"posted":1714011625},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724243,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724230
that's quite satisfying where is that?","attachment":null,"posted":1714015673},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724243
A patch of wilderness in Northern Arkansas.","attachment":null,"posted":1714016041},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724246,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724245
I need to go there. Is it called leatherwood state park or what? That's been on my list for a while cuz its very gentle plateau.","attachment":null,"posted":1714016161},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724246
Leatherwood Wilderness, part of the Ozark-St. Francis National Forest. There's a horse trail in the southwest corner that's easy to follow, albiet not easy to hike.","attachment":null,"posted":1714016263},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724248
And your view is Almus knob or something different?","attachment":null,"posted":1714016331},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724249
A couple klicks east.","attachment":null,"posted":1714016497},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724250
over by push mountain, which is that?
also looking now at elephant head trail, that looks quite interesting","attachment":null,"posted":1714016719},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724257,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724251
Literally just a nice spot on the side of the horse loop.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714017450992785.png","filename":"Screenshot_.png"},"posted":1714017450},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724259,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724257
So the quickest way there is park on 341 and take what the topo map calls farris road down the hill?
That looks steep as FUG.
What's at the red plus sign? Anything?
I appreciate the map. Its hard to figure out where stuff is. Anon posted an amazing uninterrupted view from where he said was St francis national forest but I still don't know where. Been dreaming about that spot.","attachment":null,"posted":1714018502},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724263,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720341
Elk River Falls? I used to frequent that back in college","attachment":null,"posted":1714019243},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724263
YES
did you go to appalachian state?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714019811153537.jpg","filename":"3889155859781641.jpg"},"posted":1714019811},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724266,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724264
I was at little ol LMC. I do yearn to go back to Appalachia someday. Can't remember the name of this hike but it was over in Pisgah","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714020908015929.jpg","filename":"uzz1.jpg"},"posted":1714020908},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724271,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724266
table rock maybe in linville gorge
another anon said he climbed there","attachment":null,"posted":1714021528},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724226
Bulgaria, Stara Planina. The other pic with the 3 stones is some old Thracian megalith. The whole area is full of them. Great spot because on one side you see the mountains and in the other direction are the lowlands.
>>2720692
>>2720693
North and south views.","attachment":null,"posted":1714037315},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724225
that is not a coat rack anon....","attachment":null,"posted":1714055361},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724382,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724266
they are trying to run out all the normal folk and import rich people, damn near every ridge is littered with houses if it's not on reserve land. feels bad man.","attachment":null,"posted":1714055628},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"A little bit of fun at Casto","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714057522278369.jpg","filename":"IMG-20240425-WA0000.jpg"},"posted":1714057522},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714063170799398.jpg","filename":"45CDF4BF-21A5-4056-A3B3-3610B82F9CF4-compressed.jpg"},"posted":1714063170},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724413","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714063245202604.jpg","filename":"DSC05864-compressed.jpg"},"posted":1714063245},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724414","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714063328494596.jpg","filename":"DSC05836.jpg"},"posted":1714063328},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724415
Pingus","attachment":null,"posted":1714068159},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714127258556839.jpg","filename":"GOPR2779.jpg"},"posted":1714127258},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724691,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724690","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714127433003252.jpg","filename":"GOPR2714.jpg"},"posted":1714127433},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724690
the bright midday sun is the enemy of good photographs","attachment":null,"posted":1714127515},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724702,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714130977456450.jpg","filename":"20240425_074377.jpg"},"posted":1714130977},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724742,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724702","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714139869668244.jpg","filename":"20240426_095708.jpg"},"posted":1714139869},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724745,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724742","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714140826379073.jpg","filename":"20240426_101306.jpg"},"posted":1714140826},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724980,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720341
Used to live in Newland back in the early 2000s. I jumped down that waterfall countless times in the summer. Really miss the area","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714185288176268.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240424_221650617.jpg"},"posted":1714185288},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724984,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724980
Looks pretty terrifying seemed like it would kill you. I hope to go back there when Carver's Gap isn't covered in snow and hike to the balds without having to wear spikes in APRIL.","attachment":null,"posted":1714185850},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724988,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724984
Locals all do it, I saw 10 year olds doing it lol. So happy to see other people post photos from that little corner of Western NC. Back when I lived there I didn't have any kind of digital camera and only have slowly fading memories of the area.
If you get the chance do the loop around Price Lake off the Blue Ridge Parkway. I hiked that loop countless times on my way home from work. Really miss it there.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714186302471683.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240424_192439960.jpg"},"posted":1714186302},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724989,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724988
I tried taking the Blue Ridge Parkway northbound near Boone and it was really pretty at first but then there was a road closure and turns out the section of BRP from NC/VA border to Roanoke kinda sucks and barely has any views but not gonna do that again!
On my list is Elk Knob State Park seems like a neat view and maybe I'll be back in time for the rhododendron bloom. It was pretty cold and windy while I was there, I would like to come back in warmer weather. I've got more pictures I'm just a bit lazy in posting them.
I've never jumped from a waterfall. I'll swim in the bottom pool if the water is calm, but that water was aggressive. Too bad the water levels are too low now for waterfall enjoyment and there's little rain on the way,.
I visited this old courthouse near Jefferson, NC and got a really wonderful blue vintage old glass bowl for only 12 dollars at the gift shop. And a wood bowl as well.
I learned an important lesson about not trying to access 5000 ft + high country outside the may-early oct window","attachment":null,"posted":1714187075},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714187482847043.jpg","filename":"5930390800817758.jpg"},"posted":1714187482},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714187560116371.jpg","filename":"7084382088087726.jpg"},"posted":1714187560},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724996,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724989
I used to ride my dual sport up and down the Parkway. As a punk ass early 20 year old I didn't know how good I had it in that area as far as out stuff goes.
Check out Grandfather Mountain, it's a little touristy but worth it. Same for Mount Mitchell which is the highest peak in the eastern US.
A part of me really wants to move back to the area but my next move will be my last move since i'm getting older and have a family now. After being on the west coast with all the land you can fuck around on the east coast seems so...small.","attachment":null,"posted":1714187604},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2724999,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724996
>Check out Grandfather Mountain
a) costs money (don't really care THAT much but still)
b) very limited open hours
I really hate supporting places that gate you in if you aren't back by a certain time it ruins the vibe of the hike
c) you need to use ladders and cables to get to the best views
I cannot do that lol.
>Same for Mount Mitchell
ran out of time for that and it was too far away, BUT, I did get to see it from a distance at Blowing Rock which was super cool. And I'm pretty sure you can see Mt Rogers from where these pictures were taken from, Big Pinnacle up at Grayson Highlands north of Roan Highlands. I will certainly revisit Roan Highlands in warmer weather.
>fter being on the west coast with all the land you can fuck around on the east coast seems so...small.
what? its huge you can drive for hours and there's hills in all directions from southern NY, PA, MD, VA, WV, KY, TN, NC etc. like there's so fucking much you will never do 1/10 of all the trails even if you tried","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714187854269152.jpg","filename":"5966583742053055.jpg"},"posted":1714187854},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725000,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714187933148184.jpg","filename":"1772565249070623.jpg"},"posted":1714187933},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725004,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714188067509026.jpg","filename":"3039948547977288.jpg"},"posted":1714188067},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725005,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724999
Most of that land is private land with tons of rules and regulations. I was born and raised in PA and used to think all the west coast talk was bullshit, then I went out there.
Use to ride my dual sport on endless trails in Wyoming/Montana/Idaho area, would setup long range rifle ranges on a whim. It's a whole different world out there","attachment":null,"posted":1714188158},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725005
>Most of that land is private land with tons of rules and regulations.
what? yeah most of it but my whole point is there's TONS of public land in every state you will never ever hike all the trails on offer in even a PART of the east","attachment":null,"posted":1714188366},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725010,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714188698857787.jpg","filename":"9691005385870023.jpg"},"posted":1714188698},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725012,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714188788477344.jpg","filename":"2640430253254458.jpg"},"posted":1714188788},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725014,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714188943588420.jpg","filename":"4140038302517714.jpg"},"posted":1714188943},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725006
I get what your saying but the vastness you get out west is unbeatable. If I can't live in the North West, i'd for sure settle into Western NC.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714188953154569.jpg","filename":"West.jpg"},"posted":1714188953},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725016,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714189060618848.jpg","filename":"8611849659646044.jpg"},"posted":1714189060},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714189128452480.jpg","filename":"1964874727754805.jpg"},"posted":1714189128},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725019,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714189253817568.jpg","filename":"1336562732021971.jpg"},"posted":1714189253},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725020,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714189448265779.jpg","filename":"6214300403126126.jpg"},"posted":1714189448},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714189571058923.jpg","filename":"1012881602128531.jpg"},"posted":1714189571},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725023,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714189661089771.jpg","filename":"1444834248455460.jpg"},"posted":1714189661},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725183,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714245165746702.jpg","filename":"20240426_210634.jpg"},"posted":1714245165},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725556,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714342490711690.jpg","filename":"1.jpg"},"posted":1714342490},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725557,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714342552979616.jpg","filename":"4.jpg"},"posted":1714342552},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725638,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724984
If there are large waves going BACK INTO the fall it could probably trap a swimmer","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714357390865621.jpg","filename":"IMG_0553.jpg"},"posted":1714357390},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725662,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Wollemi National Park","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714363623744052.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240424-101320.png"},"posted":1714363623},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723676
No collapse, we had to get the heavy duty shovel to dig in that snow, was hard as concrete.","attachment":null,"posted":1714373485},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2725715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723838
>MOA scope","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714373617625782.gif","filename":"puke.gif"},"posted":1714373617},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726080,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714448462199841.jpg","filename":"20230603_105329.jpg"},"posted":1714448462},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721247
Im back. Went to two alpine lakes with a friend of mine. We spected sun and warm weather, but it snowed all weekend. Was pretty comfy tho","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714586167629226.jpg","filename":"1.jpg"},"posted":1714586167},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726725,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726724","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714586272405890.jpg","filename":"2.jpg"},"posted":1714586272},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726725","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714586337026579.jpg","filename":"3.jpg"},"posted":1714586337},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726726
Last one. We slept in a nice alpine hut, glad it had a fireplace, that night went -5 cº","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714586481209762.jpg","filename":"4.jpg"},"posted":1714586481},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726786,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725006
There's actually very little free access public or state lands in the east compared with the west in any metric. And in practice on the ground you will still get harassed by property owners on the edges of the state forest or public lands in the east. The public land experience in the west is an entirely different thing than the public land experience in the east (smaller areas surrounded by many x larger populations = shittier experience overall). You can actually just fuck off into 40k sq mi of continuous land in one state that you can just do whatever out related activity you want in.","attachment":null,"posted":1714595951},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724692
>> midday
The sun is barely over the horizon, tf are you smoking","attachment":null,"posted":1714596039},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726786
PA alone has millions of acres of public land
almost all of it free to access","attachment":null,"posted":1714596200},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726790,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714596256072937.jpg","filename":"1905.jpg"},"posted":1714596256},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726789
>millions
>special
In any western state it's measured in tens of millions. And in most eastern states I've outed in it does not change, you get harassed by individual or corporate property owners eventually. Image the little sliver of north central PA but times 10 and with even less people going out in it, that's every single western state minus Hawaii.","attachment":null,"posted":1714596398},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714597065027592.jpg","filename":"pano.jpg"},"posted":1714597065},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726725
You live in Skyrim or something?
Looks nice.","attachment":null,"posted":1714631783},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2726993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"sunrise from this past weekend","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714659605394269.jpg","filename":"1000004822.jpg"},"posted":1714659605},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727106,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726912
1h drive from the pyrenees, there still is some /out/ in europoor countries too","attachment":null,"posted":1714671250},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727110,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Drunk as fuck listening to ye olde music sitting on a log near a tiny cliff
https://youtu.be/MOCyanijD8U?si=n5rSnszCv3rNhfdY","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714672665053571.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240502_174742820.jpg"},"posted":1714672665},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727260,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714695245051659.jpg","filename":"20240502_200644.jpg"},"posted":1714695245},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727261,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727260","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714695327090696.jpg","filename":"20240502_200541.jpg"},"posted":1714695327},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727263,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727261","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714695485271062.jpg","filename":"20240502_201649.jpg"},"posted":1714695485},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727263","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714695728904925.jpg","filename":"20240502_202120.jpg"},"posted":1714695728},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727273,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"tallgrass prairie national preserve in the flint hills of kansas","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714697349119068.jpg","filename":"IMG_6897.jpg"},"posted":1714697349},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727274,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727273","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714697416203515.jpg","filename":"IMG_6915.jpg"},"posted":1714697416},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727274
some wild bison blocking the trail","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714697482640640.jpg","filename":"IMG_6930.jpg"},"posted":1714697482},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727278,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727277","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714697547552654.jpg","filename":"IMG_6932.jpg"},"posted":1714697547},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727286,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714698468614516.jpg","filename":"guins.jpg"},"posted":1714698468},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727288,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719925","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714698782506974.jpg","filename":"aspen.jpg"},"posted":1714698782},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714699082735305.jpg","filename":"20240430_093839_1.jpg"},"posted":1714699082},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727106
I'm in Europe too, and about as /out/ as you can get on this continent, but we don't have that sexy jagged alpine terrain here.
I have the arctic tundra and the taiga just outside my door, and a very ncie coastline.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714717659678364.jpg","filename":"Image (8).jpg"},"posted":1714717659},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727412,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726728
-5 is still pretty nice, lowest I got was around -15 and in the end in the mountains that's still a normal temp, I've seen in the alps at 3/4k even now that's warmer it is -35C, one day I aspire to go to these places but I need to go with an experienced guide, if I went alone rn I'd risk too much to just die like a retard.
anyway at these heights you're not going out in the usual sense of walking around, it's super technical and you're ice climbing/snow shoeing all the time","attachment":null,"posted":1714739124},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727412
I remember at night if I took my mittens off when I was still at camp, after like 1 min my fingers would get cold af to the point of moving them slower and having less dexterity, which is a know feeling when you're cold for long but it happened in a minute or so.
or for example I was heating a jelly meat can on the gas stove and the jelly was boiling, a streak of boiling jelly went down the side of the gas can and it froze solid in seconds while it was boiling before.
still I was hot in my bag with a jacket on overnight, plus the steel nalgene with boiling water between the legs tricm5","attachment":null,"posted":1714739337},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2727415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727412
>>2727414
btw my -15 is an estimate bc I didnt have a thermometer but I looked the temps of that zone on the map after I came back
with that said just having a lvl1+lvl5 on while walking was enough to sweat like a bigger","attachment":null,"posted":1714739429},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2728349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727353
Well you're afortunate too. You may not have alpine terrain, but tundra is fucking awesome
>>2727412
Yeah I kinda know -5 is not that much cold, we just didnt spected that cold in late April here in Spain. Im used to the summer weather I guess","attachment":null,"posted":1714927497},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2728606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Pictures don't do it justice... but last hike I did with my brother (well, technically 2nd to last but on the same trip)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714963481298808.jpg","filename":"IMG_9579.jpg"},"posted":1714963481},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2728608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728606
Lush n comfy","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714963677102675.jpg","filename":"IMG_9571.jpg"},"posted":1714963677},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2728609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727273
>>2727274
>>2727277
>>2727278
Mmm I love grasslands so underrated. I'm headed to ND soon to do Theodore Roosevelt, then hitting black hills and Bad Lands, then going to see the grasslands in Nebraska to close out","attachment":null,"posted":1714963760},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2728620,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727273
Prairies don't get the love they deserve","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714964913749343.jpg","filename":"Nebraska.jpg"},"posted":1714964913},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2728621,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714965066673526.jpg","filename":"IMG_0013.jpg"},"posted":1714965066},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2728622,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"ELEPHANT SEAL FIGHT!!!!!!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714965380234267.jpg","filename":"20240217_154659.jpg"},"posted":1714965380},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2728851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728609
sounds awesome, i love the black hills. badlands was the first NP i ever visited","attachment":null,"posted":1715014318},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2728956,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Philopappos hill, Athens","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715029846544402.jpg","filename":"DSC02526-compressed-compressed-compressed-compressed.jpg"},"posted":1715029846},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2730722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727273
went to the konza prairie this time","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715393550596682.jpg","filename":"IMG_6991.jpg"},"posted":1715393550},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2730724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730722","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715393622829161.jpg","filename":"IMG_7009.jpg"},"posted":1715393622},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2730726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730724","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715393688888010.jpg","filename":"IMG_7016.jpg"},"posted":1715393688},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2730728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730726","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715393762475107.jpg","filename":"IMG_7019.jpg"},"posted":1715393762},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2730733,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730722
If you have a bike, I recommend exploring the flint hills nature trail. The area west of Bushong is great. Also, go to kanopolis state park if you haven't been there. It's not too far from the flint hills and watch for ticks","attachment":null,"posted":1715394621},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The blue mountains were nice","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715541136094708.png","filename":"IMG_9512.png"},"posted":1715541136},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731252,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715541219001421.png","filename":"IMG_9513.png"},"posted":1715541219},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"/out/ 日本","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715541460234938.jpg","filename":"IMG_7373.jpg"},"posted":1715541460},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731267,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"camped out friday night and got lucky","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715543133367631.jpg","filename":"1692243113088601.jpg"},"posted":1715543133},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731269,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731267
another one","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715543266388933.jpg","filename":"1715238932122799.jpg"},"posted":1715543266},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731273,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730733
ive been thinking about doing the flint hills trail, have you done the whole thing?","attachment":null,"posted":1715543839},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720048
Unless you’re way out west Big Bend way, Texas has fuck all for /out/
>t. Texfag","attachment":null,"posted":1715563528},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715564348124907.jpg","filename":"4230067166586548.jpg"},"posted":1715564348},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715564511539862.jpg","filename":"7429219659275763.jpg"},"posted":1715564511},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731393","attachment":null,"posted":1715565887},{"board":"out","thread":2719925,"pid":2731426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723527
Kirby Cove?","attachment":null,"posted":1715569756}]}
{"title":"What's your big 4 setup look like /out/?","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719229,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"For me:
>Tent: MSR Hubba Hubba 2
>Bag: Gregory Baltoro 65
>Sleeping bag: Marmot Sawtooth 15
>Sleeping pad: Zlite","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712944423471211.png","filename":"1521418774987.png"},"posted":1712944423},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Get on my level UL faggots","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712944449000803.png","filename":"1578765997887.png"},"posted":1712944449},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719241,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712948112999183.png","filename":"B4.png"},"posted":1712948112},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"itt larpers with stock photos","attachment":null,"posted":1712948501},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719242
As supposed to what? Anime? Contribute or gtfo.","attachment":null,"posted":1712948796},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719269,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712954294856561.jpg","filename":"1712944423471211.jpg"},"posted":1712954294},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Osprey Exos 48 140€
>lanshan 1 pro 105€
>Pyrenex ladakh 900 130€
>Decathlon Isolant 900 115€","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712991521360536.png","filename":"1712954294856561.png"},"posted":1712991521},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712993257877006.jpg","filename":"IMG_7742.jpg"},"posted":1712993257},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719441,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You don’t even need these 4 to get 90% out of nature. You could get by with just a tarp and a way to hold water.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712993357872767.jpg","filename":"IMG_7743.jpg"},"posted":1712993357},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719442,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719435
Pretty much same basic template. 50L pack, single-person tent, mummy bag and inflatable pad. Details don't matter so much.","attachment":null,"posted":1712993406},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719441
M8 why do you need a giant fucking larp pack if you're only bringing not much at all?","attachment":null,"posted":1713002750},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719245
>As supposed to what?
The actual photo of stuffs you used when going /out/ nigger. You did go out, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1713005151},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719477
NTA but
>specify you don't need items
>"HURR DURR WHY YOU NEED THAT FOR"
Do you think before you post? I mean, at all?","attachment":null,"posted":1713011302},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719477
In fairness, the full MSS is almost comically large","attachment":null,"posted":1713012414},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719572,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Seek Outside Flight 2
Western Mountaineering Alpinlite
Thermarest xtherm nxt
Gossamer Gear One","attachment":null,"posted":1713024345},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719591,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Big 4 is under ~7lbs total including guy lines and stakes","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713028519748332.jpg","filename":"20240413_100853.jpg"},"posted":1713028519},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719597,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
I look down on 'People' who use blow up sleeping pads which you have to pump up and expel the air from everytime you want to change camping spot, and lugging around enormous sleeping bags - unless it is going to be below freezing that isn't neceessary.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713030768804959.png","filename":"32553352235253.png"},"posted":1713030768},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719591
what quilt is that","attachment":null,"posted":1713032488},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719609
Featherstone Moondance 25","attachment":null,"posted":1713032830},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
City niggers, I just went outside. I looked at my barn, I looked at the ocean to the north and then I looked at the mountains to the south. That's enough /out/ for me","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713033348389698.jpg","filename":"20240413_153012.jpg"},"posted":1713033348},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719624,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719613
thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1713035948},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719755,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719442
Food, water and optional layers
>>2719503
Knower","attachment":null,"posted":1713067217},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719757,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719483
There won't be a response to this.","attachment":null,"posted":1713067454},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719757
That's me in the photo, being /out/. Everything else is stock photos of what I use, faggot. I dont have time to take photos of all my shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1713107029},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719865,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719597
>I look down on people who overpack because they only have one gear set that's meant to work for them in all situations
Fuck off with this shit. I'm not buying a separate tent/pack/pad/sleeping bag just because it's too big for the occasion. Even if I didn't live in a place where it can get below freezing in July, I'd still pack like I do. I'm not buying each and every piece of gear my favorite reddit board is telling me is best for my specific trip
I'm buying the biggest pack I think I'll be using, the warmest sleeping bag I think I'll be using, the warmest sleeping pad I think I'll be using, and a tent that I got from a friend
If my price for consooming fewer products is that I have a heavier pack in the summer than I need, I'll gladly deal with it","attachment":null,"posted":1713109141},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719916,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719614
Are you trying to be smug about being a peasant?","attachment":null,"posted":1713126284},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2719933,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">GoLite ShangriLa 5
>Granite Gear Crown2
>MEC Gosling
>Thermarest XTherm","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713128140746622.jpg","filename":"1712993257877006.jpg"},"posted":1713128140},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2720077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713161272951228.png","filename":"Untitled41_20240414230714.png"},"posted":1713161272},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2720244,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720077","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713196890605988.gif","filename":"1666287011486219.gif"},"posted":1713196890},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2720859,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"not a larper i swear. this is all i need for short trips under a week. good clothing necessary depending on the weather.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713292829763231.png","filename":"Untitled design_20240416_153545_0000.png"},"posted":1713292829},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720077
Very yuru camp desu","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713331192816372.png","filename":"1554567563335.png"},"posted":1713331192},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721136,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">wear a ghorka
>get drunk and pass out in ditch somewhere
that pretty much solves most of the practical problems","attachment":null,"posted":1713364338},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721168,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
>Pack: Grandpa's old ALICE pack
>Tent: A $20 backpacking tarp from Amazon and some paracord
>Sleeping bag: Teton Sport mummy bag. Forget which model and I'm too lazy to check desu
>Sleeping pad: Another $20 backpacking tarp from Amazon and enough cheap whiskey to not feel the rocks I'm sleeping on
Get on my level bitches","attachment":null,"posted":1713370386},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721180,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bought a cot. Forgive me tentbros.
What am I in for?
>inb4 car camping
Yes.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713371992406146.png","filename":"Cot.png"},"posted":1713371992},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721206,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721180
Cot beds are cool if you want comfort. I've used the KingCamp Ultralight cot bed a few times (picrel) to keep me off the ground. It packs away to the size of a large brick and is very light. Perfect for using it in a tent, under a tarp or under the stars.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713375646900315.jpg","filename":"King Camp.jpg"},"posted":1713375646},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719269
This is basically my setup minus the sleeping pad and add a rain cover on the bivy..","attachment":null,"posted":1713392903},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721367,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721168
Based ALICE chad","attachment":null,"posted":1713396124},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721735,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713463927312811.jpg","filename":"GridArt_20240418_191110455.jpg"},"posted":1713463927},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721739,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Pack - REI Flash 45 from 2018 (This pack is unremarkable to me so I have little to say about it, does the job, hasn't ripped)
Tent - Big Agnes Copper Spur 2 person (weighs little, freestanding, holds up to wind very well, great ventilation without the rain fly)
Pad - Zlite egg carton (I've tried air pads, I'd rather have something flat that I don't have to fuck with blowing and rolling up)
Bag - Kelty mummy bag (I don't usually bring it, I sleep hot and live in a hot area, I'm more concerned with sweating than staying warm)","attachment":null,"posted":1713464853},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"simple as","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713470257019973.jpg","filename":"t.bezd.jpg"},"posted":1713470257},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721786,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How do you filter water over multi day expeditions?
I have a basic sawyer squeeze off-brand filter, would that be decent enough for lake and stream water?","attachment":null,"posted":1713472331},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721796,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
>30-06
>110 buck knife
>a lighter
>an axe
i dont use a tent
havent used one in years","attachment":null,"posted":1713473410},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
>Tent: Blue construction tarp w/ paracord tie offs
>Bag: Mardingtop (fake Rush) assault pack
>Sleeping bag: Either a wool blanket or a 2-season mummy bag off Amazon
>Sleeping pad: Hammock
I'm poor and it's pretty warm here.","attachment":null,"posted":1713473749},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2721800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721786
I use a katadyn befree in combination with a cnoc 3L bag","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713473920493730.jpg","filename":"IMG_20220317_183749.jpg"},"posted":1713473920},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2722193,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720859
>kinda based","attachment":null,"posted":1713557683},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2722201,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721786
Boil water in pot for one minute","attachment":null,"posted":1713559590},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2722871,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
there's definitely a theme to my shit
>backpacking tent
litefighter 1
>car camping tent with dog, gf, normie friends, etc
spicer peak 6
>bag
carinthia defense 1, supplemented with a heavy blanket if car camping
>pad
neoair xtherm","attachment":null,"posted":1713722435},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2723054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719241
can someone ID this backpack? i wanna larp as snufkin too.","attachment":null,"posted":1713752553},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2724842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Pack: Veshmeshok+Belt mounted haversack
>Shelter: OR Helium Bivy+Plash Palatka/Tarp
>Warmth: Hammock Gear 30F quilt+Swagman
>Pad: EVA Foam+a Klymit insulated
This is for 3 or more days in colder weather. In summer I drop the quilt and only use the swagman. The thin pad makes a nice place to sit and adds cushioning to the back of my potato sack backpack","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714158817861101.png","filename":"y uger.png"},"posted":1714158817},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2724849,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722871
>litefighter
Noice, thinking about getting a winter kit for mine this year","attachment":null,"posted":1714160110},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719269
im going to pee on you through that","attachment":null,"posted":1714256802},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722201
One minute boil won't kill cysts, takeworm eggs or virii. Four minutes minimum boil and ten is better.","attachment":null,"posted":1714258223},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725263,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">using a pussy pad
NGMI city slicker","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714265862568690.jpg","filename":"out big 4.jpg"},"posted":1714265862},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725266,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How do you sleep under a tent? Sounds scary as fuck. Not sure if I'm going to wake up with hypothermia or get eaten by a bear.","attachment":null,"posted":1714266182},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725266
Under a *tarp fuck","attachment":null,"posted":1714266243},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725392,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725266
Bong here, no bears, the worst I've woken up to is a deer curled up under the tarp and my hammock.
>hypothermia
Not an issue if you have a decent insululating sleeping cover like a sleeping bag. You also absolutely need to be lifted above the ground to avoid losing heat.","attachment":null,"posted":1714304815},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725237
It also depends on your altitude. At higher altitudes water boils at a lower temperature so needs to boil for longer.","attachment":null,"posted":1714307375},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725402,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how you outists can afford so fancy stuff if you are 24/7 innawoods so have no time for work?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714308227619048.jpg","filename":"bitmap.jpg"},"posted":1714308227},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725397
This. People get this wrong all the time. They think water boils faster at higher altitudes but forget that the water temperature is lower.
Water at sea level boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit. At 5,000 feet above sea level, the boiling point is 203 degrees F. Up at 10,000 feet, water boils at 194 degrees F.
The higher you are, the longer you need to boil your water to purify it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714313191},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725429,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725397
Yeah because of this if you're gonna camp higher than 5000 ft above sea level you'll need more fuel for cooking and water treatment. Isobutane works well.
>Pack: Tupilak 50-75
>Tent: Redline 2-Person Tent Red Dahlia
>Sleeping bag: Phantim GORE-TEX 0F/-18C
>Sleeping pad: Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XTherm","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714314231332228.jpg","filename":"Isobutane.jpg"},"posted":1714314231},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721180
>>2721206
We stole some stretchers to use as cots last mil exercise I was on, was pretty damn comfy compared to the foam pad I'm used to.
No small stumps and rocks digging into my back.","attachment":null,"posted":1714376496},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2725981,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719241
>>2723054
Looks like Joel's bag from TLOU or a herschel
But r/ as well.","attachment":null,"posted":1714433047},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2726171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719230
Tried sleeping out in Zion over SB with one of those reflective space blanket things on top of my sleeping bag - did not work. Too cold. One of my most unpleasant camping experiences in recent memory.","attachment":null,"posted":1714470934},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2726180,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726171
>on top of my sleeping bag
Retard","attachment":null,"posted":1714474207},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2726182,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726180
I wrapped it around like a foil burrito. Over around and under. How is that retarded? Was there a better move?","attachment":null,"posted":1714474975},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2726349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726182
I guess the issue is that you're trying to reflect heat back through your insulation, but a mylar blanket will ultimately be a bad fit for a sleeping bag due to moisture concerns regardless.","attachment":null,"posted":1714505947},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2726871,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">cheap amazon 3x3m tarp
>generic military style rucksack
>an old bag from the loft that belonged to my dad
>s2s etherlite xt insulated - had to invest here as I never got a good night's sleep on my dad's old thermarest","attachment":null,"posted":1714614727},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2728299,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
usgi goretex bivvy with a 2lb down bag, nature for groundpad/cover
some 40L pack
Mora knife and a tomahawk
Sawyer mini filter
Freezedried potatoes + seasoning mix + rat traps for catching squirrels + fishing line/hooks for canepole fishing + gather plants/shrooms
Ozark trail cookset, just the frypan and bowl/lid
Coffee in tea bags + tea in tea bags
Zippo with torchy insert + ferro rod + homemade firestarters","attachment":null,"posted":1714918840},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729153,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
>What's your big 4 setup look like /out/?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715074450053505.png","filename":"13254296799.png"},"posted":1715074450},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729296,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728299
>bivy larper
>doesn’t know what the big four are
>couldn’t even decipher it rom pictures and dozens of other posts","attachment":null,"posted":1715103725},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729309,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729296
not larping
know what it is, chose to ignore it
some people said tarp which is way more high skill/hardcore than a bivvy
you'd know if you'd tried them both","attachment":null,"posted":1715108094},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729376,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i love larping","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715116921673384.png","filename":"out big 4.png"},"posted":1715116921},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729376
Based greatcoat chad","attachment":null,"posted":1715117105},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729376
>mfw I have that "sleeping pad" but to sit on while fishing
>don't even unfold it, sit on all layers for warmth
>still starts hurting after a while
Can't imagine actually sleeping on a single layer of that kraut plastic","attachment":null,"posted":1715117704},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729383
I like mine, yeah it's not the softest but it does a good job at keeping the cold out, then again I can sleep on a concrete floor","attachment":null,"posted":1715119440},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729398
just because you can doesn't mean you have to","attachment":null,"posted":1715120055},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729403,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729399
use whatever works best for you, this works for me","attachment":null,"posted":1715120948},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729499,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725266
>>2725392
I'm more afraid of bugs biting me and giving me a previously undiscovered forest AIDS. Especially since one of the most commonly recommended way to "lift yourself off the ground" is by piling bushes under you (which i imagine is chock full of bugs)","attachment":null,"posted":1715135694},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729524,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
Bike is from image search but you get the idea","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715141135110659.png","filename":"135346347.png"},"posted":1715141135},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725392
>hammock
>You also absolutely need to be lifted above the ground to avoid losing heat.
Hmm..","attachment":null,"posted":1715161372},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2729605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
None of these shelters will keep anyone dry because they’re made from waterproof materials.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715169357689900.jpg","filename":"F0779A9A-4D3F-4CA8-97D1-9605FFCC17B6.jpg"},"posted":1715169357},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2730061,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719241
Is the gootium backpack any good?","attachment":null,"posted":1715251320},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2730066,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730061
No.","attachment":null,"posted":1715252613},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2730068,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"the coldest it gets in my area is about 5c degrees. can i get away with a raincoat/tarp tent and a reasonably warm waterproof sleeping bag and cowboy camp with it unless its going to rain and in that case use the tarp coat?","attachment":null,"posted":1715252673},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2730074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729524
how is that sleeping bag? it's so cheap that I'm tempted to buy it just to use this summer","attachment":null,"posted":1715254165},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2731056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730074
Great for anything above 10c at night, extra clothes for anything below","attachment":null,"posted":1715481195},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2731181,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723054
Not exact, but a milsurp Swiss army rucksack looks very similar to me","attachment":null,"posted":1715529081},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2731410,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719933
Love my GoLite Jam. Shame they shut down. I scored a secondhand one in decent shape for when I finally have to replace mine. 10 years of heavy use and still going strong. Just a small rip where the shoulder strap attaches from carrying more weight than what it's specified for then picking it up by the strap (12L water haul on a desert trip)","attachment":null,"posted":1715568454},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2731417,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Pack and tent are my actual pack and tent in the wild. The pack is some cheap 70L pack I got off Amazon and has done really well for 4 years, the tent is a North Face stormbreaker 1.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715569137931321.jpg","filename":"IMG_4634.jpg"},"posted":1715569137},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2731420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721180
I strongly prefer cots. I put a wool blanket underneath me for some extra padding/warmth when I need it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715569372},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2731423,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
The shelter and pack is highly dependent on what im doing and how far im going and how many people are with me...so ill list the ones i cycle between depending on the trip
>Mystery Ranch Sawtooth, Beartooth, or Marshall
>Seek Outside Cimarron, Seek Outside Silex, MSR Hubba Hubba 2
>Marmot Never Summer 0 degree bag
>Thermarest Trail Pro","attachment":null,"posted":1715569675},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721767
poprad is nice for getting /out/","attachment":null,"posted":1715703237},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732043
Ahoj, fello Slovak","attachment":null,"posted":1715716970},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732187,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Tent:
we have huts in NZ. Alpine bivy bag for emergency, plus a snow saw and shovel in winter.
>Bag:
Macpac Pursuit
>Sleeping bag:
MacPac, can’t remember. Equinox(?) when it’s not cold, 2nd warmest alpine bag for winter. Epic maybe?
>Sleeping pad:
cheap af foam roll for summer plus a ¾ Zrest in winter. After a few failed inflatables I’m done with them.
Favourite kit:
Beyond old Prophet I can’t bring myself to replace. Bring back goretex Viper and offset sips at the chin! (Mines a bluey grey with internal hip cord, delaminating and generally fucked, but otherwise identical)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715743277631393.jpg","filename":"IMG_3320.jpg"},"posted":1715743277},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723054
Gootium canvas rucksack.","attachment":null,"posted":1715748195},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732187
Actually since I'm here, does anyone know anything that's basically this exact style and still available?
Nothing I can find in the last hour has a waist drawcord, except a couple around the NZ$1500 mark, which is fucking insane for a jacket.
Prefer no lower pockets.","attachment":null,"posted":1715754519},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732558,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
Are those down suits any good or meme tier","attachment":null,"posted":1715840570},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732558
Those arent down suits, those are human-shaped sleeping bags, theyre a meme, a friend bought one and was cold at 10C even though it looked pretty warm","attachment":null,"posted":1715851378},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732650,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732593
>Those arent down suits, those are human-shaped sleeping bags,
Don't split hairs, they're basically the same thing.
>>2732558
I'm sure you'll be much more comfy in a regular sleeping bag. Imagine the fuckery involved in taking a piss if it's raining. Not speaking from experience but I've spent more than a couple of nights in just my alpine gear. Not particularly cold or anything, it's just not a comfy way to sleep.","attachment":null,"posted":1715868478},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732651,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Tent: xmid 1p
Bag: 40L lite AF
Quilt: ugh bandit 950fp down
Pad: Nemo tensor insulated","attachment":null,"posted":1715868745},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732651
>ugh bandit 950fp
now I'm not knocking this, I bet it's comfy af, but... that's just a sleeping bag minus the zip. Innit.
What are your thoughts on something like this?
Good or gimmick?
https://www.macpac.co.nz/macpac-standard-azure-500-down-sleeping-bag-%28-6%C2%B0c%29/120068.html?dwvar_120068_color=Sun%20Dried%20Tomato&dwvar_120068_clearance=no","attachment":null,"posted":1715869785},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732674,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732656
Yea quilt would be shit without a insulated pad, I wouldn't use it then. But the quilt is much more like blankets at home in bed and offer more flexibility because you can partially cover yourself if it's warmer.
500 fill power is ass for that price. You could probably get something made in the us with 750-800 for that price. The thing I don't like about sleeping bags is constriction. I side sleep so quilt all day. I have sleeping bags too, just prefer the quilt.
I don't remember the exact formula but it should be online somewhere. The know area of a quilt (length * width) can be used to estimate the fill power by measuring the thickness when fully lofted and vice versa. So use that to determine if you're actually getting what you're paying for","attachment":null,"posted":1715874544},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732701,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721180
They're nice.
I had helinox cot loaner from a friend and it was comfy, very light too, no need to worry about sharp rocks or anything else for that matter to poke you in the back or puncture your mat.","attachment":null,"posted":1715879728},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732703,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729499
Checked and same, tent is the only way I can sleep without worrying some little mega-aids cunt biting me.
Also last time I used a hammock there was a frog in my boot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715879883},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732893,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732558
>Increase surface area so you have more area to lose heat
>Heavier for the same insulation because the surface area that needs to be insulated is greater
>Going to have more cold spots because it's a more complicated shape
>Less volume inside the bag means you don't start warming up stale air
A meme unless you want to do warm-up exercises repeatedly to maintain warmth.","attachment":null,"posted":1715927150},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2732937,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Tent: Quarterdome 1
Pack: Mariposa 60
Water: FirstNeed
Quilt: EE Revelation 10F plus overfilled
Pads: Nemo Switchback and Tensor
Shoes: Hoka SG5
Poles: Leki carbon
Stove: MSR Pocket Rocket
Comfy as hell three seasons.","attachment":null,"posted":1715942616},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2733992,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732187
Hey bru. Do many folk wear Swanndri bushshirts there still or is it kind of a larp now?","attachment":null,"posted":1716197169},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2734089,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719229
I've never been camping before and I am also poor. I will be doing a small 2 mile hike and will set up a day camp before packing up and going home. I'm going to make some jerky to take with me so I don't have to cook out there. I can't camp overnight in those woods because there is a bear family, who are not scared of people, and they know me. Don't need them taking revenge on me for scaring them off all the time (I have a retarded neighbor who has been feeding them, after a year I finally got that bastard to stop). I figure I have to start somewhere, and this is what I can do right now.
>Pack: child's old school backpack
>Tent: a bedsheet, some twine and poles I will find in the woods (there is a lot of suitable wood there)
>Sleeping bag and pad: gymnastics mat, blanket, small pillow
Also do you guys have recommendations for cheap starter gear? I would like items that will make it at least one year of use, using them once per month. There are other places that I can hike to and camp overnight nearby where the bears won't try to fuck me over.","attachment":null,"posted":1716218142},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2734153,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725263
using emojis, as a man?
better get your buddies dick out your ass and come and fight me you shlomo","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716228323515044.gif","filename":"1711799487567544.gif"},"posted":1716228323},{"board":"out","thread":2719229,"pid":2734219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719614
I love living in the /out/, its always there, sometimes you don’t need it though, but its still always right there","attachment":null,"posted":1716240130}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700073,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just got an REI membership and all I want to do now is consooooom","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1708120461020984.jpg","filename":"download (3).jpg"},"posted":1708120461},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700078,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEI","attachment":null,"posted":1708121374},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700086,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What are the best items rei has to offer?","attachment":null,"posted":1708121941},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
boots because they let you return them for 1 year if you have a membership (the guy at the store said 100 days, but the receipt said 1 year from purchase so not 100% sure)
anyways I bought boots, they were too small, and I got to exchange them even though I'd hiked up a mountain in them for a bigger size
that said, do not buy bicycle helmets at rei, their prices are nutrageous","attachment":null,"posted":1708125486},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700108,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700104
Their tire prices are kind of nutrageous too but their selection of stuff for mountain biking is pretty good. My nearest REI turned into a bike shop that also sells Patagonia jackets.","attachment":null,"posted":1708126067},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700158,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">a membership just to buy secondhand shit
Are all of you retarded","attachment":null,"posted":1708140834},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700158
REI doesn't sell used items.","attachment":null,"posted":1708141799},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700165,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
The Mountain Hardwear airmesh layers at 30% off right now and are crazy warm and light, highly recommend as an upgrade from polartec grid fleece.","attachment":null,"posted":1708142501},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700213,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700162
Yes they do","attachment":null,"posted":1708153199},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700214,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700162
What do you think happens to the boots you returned?","attachment":null,"posted":1708154175},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700213
>>2700214
Every store sells open box or refurbished items, but that post implies their primary business is selling used items.","attachment":null,"posted":1708173535},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700250
you're right about how stupid that post was, but REI also sells used items that aren't open box or refurbished. It's an extreme minority of their inventory at any given time, though","attachment":null,"posted":1708186122},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700165
>Shills the latest deal
>Takes the time to memorise the brand/model of overpriced coat, needs to upgrade though for own sense of wellbeing
This board is full of this type of energy. You don't buy a coat, you buy a series of coats until you settle on one that has been endlessly engineered to appeal to your whims. You want to feel connected with nature, but at the same time, pampered by the artifical fabric that you cover your natural self with.
Not even women used to be this way, but here you are as a modern man.","attachment":null,"posted":1708187031},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700318
Who pissed in your cereal? I'm just sharing a piece of equipment that works for me and passing on that info. When's the last time you went /out/? Post a picture of you outside before ranting about "retvrn to tradition" you baboon. It's literally $60, if you think that's some exorbitant sum then go get a job or something wagie poorfag.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1708190707223287.jpg","filename":"1708190684338.jpg"},"posted":1708190707},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
I like to get my wool socks there","attachment":null,"posted":1708192667},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700318
>this type of energy
You don't go outside.","attachment":null,"posted":1708193219},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700357
>energy
Zoomer begone","attachment":null,"posted":1708193336},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700368,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
Clothing, no doubt. REI is like 90% clothes. They usually have some ok sales.
The REI co-op backpack was bretty gud but it’s gotten a little too expensive. Its main draw was the competitive price, but it’s the same as every other pack now. Same with the Half Dome tent, but it was always a little too expensive.
>>2700318
>This board is full of this type of energy.
No it isn’t.","attachment":null,"posted":1708194032},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700370,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700359
You still don't go outside.","attachment":null,"posted":1708194138},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700395,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700370
In coming up with a witty reply, I realized that you were not the original poster of the trash zoomerspeak. I mistakenly called you a zoomer and for that I humbly apologize.
>>2700318
Zoomer begone","attachment":null,"posted":1708201273},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700404,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
My pops went to UW in the 70s and had an REI membership number with triple digits. I took him to the store here in Eugene a couple years back and he said (and I quote)
>what the fuck happened to this place?
We almost immediately turned around and left.
Based dad, love you old man.","attachment":null,"posted":1708203378},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700404
Eugene is a pit but the woods are comfy
>t. Went to school at UO","attachment":null,"posted":1708225794},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"REI is overpriced junk, just like every company in the US now.","attachment":null,"posted":1708280189},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2700895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
Pants with a draw string so you don’t need a belt. Seriously, removing my belt so I can put my pack on and buckle my load bearing straps is really annoying","attachment":null,"posted":1708314808},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2702814,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700108
NIGGA THATS NUTS","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1708842518793699.jpg","filename":"squirreljak.jpg"},"posted":1708842518},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700104
You should watch this movie. In the movie she is helped by some policy that REI has with boots.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709230597004605.jpg","filename":"wild 2014.jpg"},"posted":1709230597},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
sometimes they have good quality stuff on clearance. it's the only stuff i buy from there really.","attachment":null,"posted":1709231708},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704183,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Rei means king in Portuguese. And it’s no surprise that many outdoors people like the colour purple, because purple used to be used only by royalty in the past.","attachment":null,"posted":1709232608},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
some condescending advise from the associates but an opportunity to try on/get sized for gear. otherwise buy from amazon","attachment":null,"posted":1709319967},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704620,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
Im so poor when I walk into one of these bad boys NOBODY asks if I need help finding something
And it's true, I'm merely stoned and walking around","attachment":null,"posted":1709320482},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2704620
so u work there lol","attachment":null,"posted":1709330845},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Eligible Purchases: $360
>Noneligible Purchases: $735","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709338102337123.jpg","filename":"eac965e9a2982ddf67daa580201c9bfee215f8ea419b4c2d36420685721e5e43.jpg"},"posted":1709338102},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704750,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i dont know enough to say anything about their selection but they seem to hire the faggiest people on the planet it’s uncanny","attachment":null,"posted":1709339247},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704754,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2704709
Kek","attachment":null,"posted":1709340034},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
got some permethrin there, but i left it in the car over winter and it might be fucked now idk it got like -5 f out there for a bit. got some waterphobic gloves for canoeing that worked perfectly for a ~50 hr trip","attachment":null,"posted":1709342262},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2704792,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700352
Me too, I've stolen countless pairs of wool socks from them","attachment":null,"posted":1709346466},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2706612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
Is REI the equivalent of Decathlon's in Europe?","attachment":null,"posted":1709810155},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2706776,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
I have one too but I don't even know what it does. You get a percentage back in giftcards and you get rentals in hub cities? The prices for plastic clothes there are all completely insane.","attachment":null,"posted":1709838856},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2706784,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I my experience LL Bean has the best price/quality and people seem to think it is as expensive as patagonia despite being 1/3rd the price.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709840493414393.jpg","filename":"505271_53358_41.jpg"},"posted":1709840493},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2706799,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2706784
Isn't LL Bean fashion for single moms that watch too much Yellowstone?","attachment":null,"posted":1709843757},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2706814,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2706799
Kinda. It's also funny that he chose that item in particular to show off because REI and LL Beans anorak are within like $5 of each other.","attachment":null,"posted":1709847455},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2706835,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2706799
They have comparable plastic clothes to any other plastic clothing brand for cheaper. They used to be very nice back in the 90s.","attachment":null,"posted":1709852178},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707257,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
I’ll shop there for gear, pretty much anything but clothing, unless it’s expedition tier shit, but I tend to order that rather than just dropping by. If you are groomed trail /out/, their clothes are fine. If you are /offtrailout/…their puffy and weak pants will be shredded in minutes.","attachment":null,"posted":1709960707},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707268,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707257
What about these bad boys","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709962520392947.jpg","filename":"square_ss24_uk_fjallraven_mg_9617.jpg"},"posted":1709962520},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707257
Or do you need these","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1709962949830886.png","filename":"jeans.png"},"posted":1709962949},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's weird that REI insists on pretending that black people go camping. I've never seen a black person on a backpacking trail, and almost never on state park campgrounds. Fishing sure, but not overnight camping. Yet every single REI ad has blacks in it, often BMWF.","attachment":null,"posted":1710008430},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707378
Despite being only 13% of the population, blacks are in 90% of advertisements. Why is that? Who is doing this? Why are they advertised in places that make zero sense like j crew or banana republic or rei? We all know the answer but are not allowed to speak it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710022627407370.jpg","filename":"1704903284415192.jpg"},"posted":1710022627},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707268
>>2707270
A pair of double front duck Carharrt pants are fine 99.9% of the time here in Western WA. Heavy duty rain pants over the top of it’s pouring. Zero point in buying fancy shit unless it does something a basic bitch product can not. I see zero reality based benefit to utilizing Vknywgfvden pants .","attachment":null,"posted":1710025382},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707378
At least 70% of REI members wish the outdoors was all black though","attachment":null,"posted":1710029300},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"used to go to REI a lot when I lived in a city and just drove around going to college and bars, then hiking on the weekend.
ever since growing up and owning a house with a little land, i realized i need clothes that can take a beating, and that's carhartt for me.","attachment":null,"posted":1710045916},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707570,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707548
I just buy $13 costco jeans and throw them away when they blowout.","attachment":null,"posted":1710049772},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
Whatever is on the return rack with only the slightest issue with it but is almost a hundred dollars off","attachment":null,"posted":1710078623},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
Is Kuhl stuff exclusive to REI? I like their pants and want one of their jackets. Expensive as fuck tho, I might just get some Varusteleka stuff for now.","attachment":null,"posted":1710087676},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707692
They have kuhl at sheels","attachment":null,"posted":1710088397},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2707997,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
holy based
when i was 16 i bought a rei membership and my first trip i dropped 800$ dollars on random shit","attachment":null,"posted":1710178279},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2708016,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707997
They don't even sell guns though","attachment":null,"posted":1710184820},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2709830,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2708016
Muttbrained response killed the thread.","attachment":null,"posted":1710781204},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2709833,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
>REI
The faggiest of all outdoor stores.","attachment":null,"posted":1710781592},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2709978,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709833
This guy shops at Dicks","attachment":null,"posted":1710807000},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710013,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709830
They have rei outside of the usa? I thought it was just a gayfag pnw yuppie thing for techbros to buy their patagonia and bicycles.","attachment":null,"posted":1710817377},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710014,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2709978
The comparable store would be cabellas/bass pro. Of course they sell things for people who hunt and have trucks that can tow boats instead of just a subaru forester with a roofrack","attachment":null,"posted":1710817514},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707479
>>2707451
>>2707378
I still can't even fathom why this is. I have also never met a black person that wants to go camping. They are all very vocal about NOT wanting to go when I talk about it. So what is this push to get them to do something they don't want? Is it literally just companies trying to get more consumers?","attachment":null,"posted":1710818259},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710017,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2704183
i never really thought about this lol. i do rock some purple gear in my kit.","attachment":null,"posted":1710819121},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"also fuck rei. there's way better cottage companies around now for much better quality for lower if not the same prices as rei. i bought my gear from them for my first backpacking trip, and they have some decent stuff to replace worn clothes/gear. however they're a woke garbage company now thats expensive as fuck. rei (especially their name brand stuff) used to be a good option to get into backpacking/hiking/out without spending an arm and a leg. not anymore.","attachment":null,"posted":1710819549},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710090,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Have any of you worked there? What's the employee discount like? I'm kind of a bum right now and looking to get a thing out two for this season (new whitewater helmet and throw bag, and possibly a tent.)","attachment":null,"posted":1710850765},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">electiontourists whining about some thing they don't like
good thread","attachment":null,"posted":1710861695},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710015
It's ESG scoring. Esg is basically a social credit score where an unelected oligarchy of the ultrarich assign a score to your company based on if you do exactly what they say or not. If you do not comply then they lower the ESG score. If they lower the ESG score then the major money management firms, Blackrock, Statestreet, Vanguard pull out of your stock which tanks your stock and therefore your company. It's a cooersion tool. And after they all got all that bailout money from the 2008 bubble crash and the peaky proles all decided they hated the bankers and the federal reserve and wallstreet and the government, they decided they needed to push a message of in-fighting and division. So ever since then they have been constantly having everyone racialize everything and opening up the borders to destroy any sembalance of national identity or unity. Their goal is to have mindless consumer-slaves and a reduced population. Putting black guys in spf 50+ sunscreen commercials is just one small component of that overall goal.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1710891195183574.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240317_141454_Chrome.jpg"},"posted":1710891195},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710652,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710245
preach","attachment":null,"posted":1710986359},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710684,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
oh that reminds me i feel like ihaven't gotten a disbursement from REI for a couple years and i bought a lot of stuff last year. how do i check if i have a credit coming?
>>2700086
mid everything","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711000501227986.jpg","filename":"backcountry.jpg"},"posted":1711000501},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707378
oy vey","attachment":null,"posted":1711009339},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700318
Bruh it’s called wanting to be fucking comfortable and it’s important af for spending a lot of time outside. Go /out/ into some rain/below freezing temps/scorching hot temps/high wind with your manly man manhood attitude and inadequate layers, and you will be begging for the synthetics in an hour. Existing outside isn’t a masculinity pissing contest
>t.ranny","attachment":null,"posted":1711031897},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2710836,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710815
Nah I own wool and linen. Keep your soiboy plastics","attachment":null,"posted":1711033962},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2711369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
They make pretty good stuff desu. Their name brand stuff is actually quite good for the price. Though as I have gained experience I have moved away from them and their kooky woke shit hasn't helped much. I used to buy about 50% of my gear from them, but now probably buy about 5% of my gear from them now. Most of my gear is now through smaller companies and mom & pop operations or making my own. When I encounter beginner backpackers that want to do more I always recommend REI to them for the following reasons. Generous return policy, decent named brand gear, knowledgeable employees and good prices on used gear or new gear when you can get it on sale.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1711156718128647.jpg","filename":"20230916_121008.jpg"},"posted":1711156718},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2713246,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2704611
>condescending advise from the associates
Where do you live that REI employees actually go outside enough to have advice to offer? The closest REI to me is staffed by high school students that couldn't even walk ten feet from a trailhead.","attachment":null,"posted":1711590911},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2713264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713246
Where I live they give decent to good advice. Dunno where you live, but it sounds like it sucks.","attachment":null,"posted":1711600030},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2713268,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
I got rainpants and a layerable rain jacket there, got the membership that day, used the membership rebate coupon to get a good pair of cold weather gloves
Honestly that was everything i needed, cant imagine what else id get outside of maybe using their bike repair services.","attachment":null,"posted":1711602871},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2713271,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713268
They don't sell guns or fishing gear so unless you use a bike I don't get how they have any return customers. Like you only need one of most of the things they sell there in general. It's weird to be just for outdoor fashion and backpacking and bicycles.","attachment":null,"posted":1711604692},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2713328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707378
I have a black friend that wants to go camping amd do outdoorsy stuff but her family is composed of first generation trinidadian immigrants. They also regularly consume Infowars and other right wing news outlets.","attachment":null,"posted":1711637932},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2713331,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713328
>trinidadian immigrants. They also regularly consume Infowars and other right wing news outlets.
Based. I used to work with a trin forklift driver. Needless to say, we didn't fall for the vaxx","attachment":null,"posted":1711639562},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2715459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is buying a fleece jacket dumb? I hear the material goes bad fast","attachment":null,"posted":1712153697},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2715481,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715459
Not if it's cheap. It's fucking plastic. Don't spend over $40 on that shit. I saw some ll bean ones at dillards on spring clearance for like $32 last week. They have marmot, ll bean, north face, pendleton winter shit on clearance right now.","attachment":null,"posted":1712163038},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2715488,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2713271
i go there for footwear, powergel type of shit, cooking gas. Though overall they clearly lean on fashion for the bulk of repeat customer purchases","attachment":null,"posted":1712163441},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2715490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715488
All their shoes are sold elsewhere for cheaper. It's a good place to try on though. And the gas is cheaper at cabellas.","attachment":null,"posted":1712163506},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2715491,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710245
you're retarded, sorry m8","attachment":null,"posted":1712163512},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2715492,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715491
How old are you?","attachment":null,"posted":1712163730},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2715494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715491
Based and public education pilled","attachment":null,"posted":1712163845},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2715517,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710126
You will never be an oldfag.","attachment":null,"posted":1712169098},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2717775,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700318
On clutch","attachment":null,"posted":1712600826},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2717792,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700318
I love clothing and clothing's history and shit like mink oil for leather and resoling boots and wool and linen and different knits and weaves and why. Clothing is a tool.","attachment":null,"posted":1712602239},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2717795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2715492
not sure what you're getting at. you clearly read some shit by people who wanted you think something, didn't actually look into the topic of ESG, then confidently made assertions about a topic about which you have a transparently entry-level (and politically slanted) understanding. That's the behavior of a proudly dumb person. My age isn't relevant to any of that, but you're presenting as a below-average 19 yo
>>2715494
an attempt was made","attachment":null,"posted":1712602486},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2717823,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717795
i asked chat gpt and google and they both told me esg is a good thing why do people think sustainable economic development and social justice and carbon reduction is a bad thing
>>2715494
ok homeschooled jesus yokel","attachment":null,"posted":1712604619},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2717850,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717823
posters don't seem to care about corporate governance, but they also think that issuers/managers of cap-weighted index funds "pull out of stocks" based on ESG. Those sorts of posters were never credible to begin with.","attachment":null,"posted":1712606222},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2717923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717850
please explain it more than that I don't get it at all","attachment":null,"posted":1712618637},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2717991,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just bought this fleece jacket on Craigslist for 50 bucks. Gonna order a new one at rei and return this used one.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712636765135095.jpg","filename":"22801_NENA.jpg"},"posted":1712636765},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2718705,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
The Flash Air is a good tent, and the magma sleeping bags are incredible for the price when they go on sale. The bikes are decent starters too
>>2700162
You are retarded, yes we do
>>2700368
They didn't use to be all clothes, but rich people discovered technical gear, and the rest is history
>>2707378
This is something none of the employees understand, either. REI is usually staffed by white people because black people don't go outside. REI has no shareholders, because they're a Co-op, so they don't *have* to actually care about DEI and ESG. They do anyway. I think a bunch of retarded MBA's at the top saw that we had zero black customer demographic on a random spreadsheet, and figured it's an untapped market. They're wrong, but as a "progressive" company (that union busts worse than amazon) they can't backtrack without getting major backlash. They also hire the same consultants as shareholder held companies, and their default line is probably "More minorities in your ads".
REI used to be actually progressive and it worked, because hippies eat that shit up, but they've changed their market to rich people that want patagucci and deadbird. Thus why all of the new locations are in very expensive areas with expensive leases; the older REI's are not. It used to be run by board members and CEOs that actually went outdoors. They rig the board elections, that are supposed to be voted on by the members, so that they can get in all of their MBA buddies that ruin other stores via layoffs of knowledgeable employees and selling worse gear at higher prices. Last year they fired hundreds of experienced employees and replaced them with 1000+ seasonal workers.
>>2713246
My store only hires people that actually go outside, but your store might not care about that. Even our frontliners go on backpacking trips and shit","attachment":null,"posted":1712815710},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2718715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718705
How much do youget paid and how much of a discount do you get?","attachment":null,"posted":1712818672},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2718842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718715
Can't give out exactly what I get paid because it's easy to find out which store I'm at, and corporate already hates me. Incredibly well for a retail job. Enough that it's worth dealing with all of their changes and corporate bullshit.
50% off anything with an REI logo, 30% off anything else in the store, with separate prodeals straight from the venders that are worth it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712847833},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2718846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718842
I just wanna say the guys at the NJ Paramus store are good if you're familiar with them. I went last week to prepare for the eclipse trip and everyone I met and got help from were great. Good team over there.","attachment":null,"posted":1712848581},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2718849,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"if i remember right REI was some trendy dollar store walmart equivalent american chain store but solely for outdoors stuff
they have low low prices for bad products and this is why everyone who shops there is either poor and have no idea what he is doing or someone larping with bad gear just for clout
did i get that right
t. some anon explained REI to me some 5 years ago and this is basically what i remember","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712848806390285.jpg","filename":"1568575433906.jpg"},"posted":1712848806},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2718903,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718849
No, it's all high dollar libcuck gear with no fishing or hunting section. Mostly they sell fashion products like patagonia and fjallraven. They have the usual citycuck staple of a bicycle section and they have gay pride outdoors and trans rights gear.","attachment":null,"posted":1712856304},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2718907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718903
>Mostly
my local store is about 30% clothing and 70% gear. My local one has a decent ski/bike shop inside as well but I dont think they all do. The funny thing is this one is right next to Sportsmen Warehouse...I go to both but most in my town go to one of the other.","attachment":null,"posted":1712856960},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2719100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2718846
I've never actually been to that store, but I'm glad they're pretty good. Most REI's do hire well.
>>2718849
Nah, used to be upscale camping gear for cheap, now it's upscale clothing and gear for expensive. It's also a cooperative and you get money back for becoming a member blah blah I'm not typing out my membership pitch
Your pay raises and (secretly) hours are determined by how good you are at converting non-members to members. Along with helping to get promotions, which is retarded, because managers don't sell memberships. Recently, REI corporate has been trying to get employees to push the credit card, which really only benefits super richfags. Some employees drink the kool-aid, many do not. Membership *is* worth it if you go more than once a year and like the coupons.
>>2718903
To be fair, REI never sold hunting gear, it was invented for a bunch of hippies to get cheaper alpine climbing gear. They expanded on that. Most (If not all) REI's have a really good bike selection, and if it's not in stock, even nicer bikes can be ordered. Even specialty mountain bikes. The bike shops are also excellent, you can get a pretty cheap tune up and the people will usually fix simple issues for free if a manager isn't hovering. Some stores also have a ski shop.
REI used to sell some fly fishing gear, but I guess it didn't sell well. It's a progressive company, and has been long before it went woke, so they would never full-dive into fishing, let alone hunting. They'd make a killing but lose half of their customer base in the process over the horror of dead animals.
Also, Fjallraven is probably one of the better brands we sell. I like how sturdy the clothing is. Outdoor research is weird but also great. Patagonia is for prestige, Arc'teryx is hit or miss. Their super technical stuff is great, their normie stuff is kinda lame.
>>2718907
Some stores are more clothing than others, it all depends on the demographics of the customers.","attachment":null,"posted":1712900442},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2719143,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719100
>Outdoor research is weird but also great.
just like me for real
no wonder i like them so much","attachment":null,"posted":1712924324},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2719725,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Thoughts on this jacket?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713057379298665.jpg","filename":"26430_NUVG.jpg"},"posted":1713057379},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2719844,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719725
It looks quite ugly and funcyionally confused is it on clearance","attachment":null,"posted":1713102027},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2719890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719725
Way too hot late spring through mid-fall. Good with hip waders. Over-engineered. Just buy unitary fleece, it's usually cheaper.","attachment":null,"posted":1713118567},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2720243,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719844
>>2719890
Ordered this instead","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713196880421129.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240415_090018_Chrome.jpg"},"posted":1713196880},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2720888,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700104
You can return used bike helmets, they don’t question it. Your statement is only true because of that though","attachment":null,"posted":1713296052},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2721212,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2704162
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/617989458
https://www.amazon.com/Wild-Cheryl-Strayed-audiobook/product-reviews/B007MIWUG0/ref=cm_cr_unknown?filterByStar=one_star&pageNumber=1
>cheating on her husband
>becomes drug addict
>gets abortion after being a whore
>pretends to go from being a drug addict whore to hiking a thousand miles with a humongous backpack with zero preparation or physical conditioning
Not gonna bother reading this work of fiction or watching the movie. Sounds like a fraud.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713376001336551.jpg","filename":"Disgust.jpg"},"posted":1713376001},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2722460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710245
I checked up on that Allyship in the outdoor course and apperantly its closed. They are no longer taking any applicants.
Guess the public backlash got them retracting everything.","attachment":null,"posted":1713621695},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2722478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"As with all woke companies, just abuse their return policies. If they didn’t have their 1 year policy, I wouldn’t buy shit from them. I can go test drive a backpack or jacket and return it after beating it to shit. I’ve done this with REI and Amazon. With Amazon I will buy a used or older model and the newer one as well. Then I place the old version in the new box and return the “new” item, effectively getting a nice discount.","attachment":null,"posted":1713626903},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2722880,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I love this board how fuckin absolutely butt blasted and personally offended overweight diabetic d*scord mods get when anybody ever makes a thread about going outside","attachment":null,"posted":1713723234},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2722923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
If you need apparel or the absolute bear minimum of some piece of gear they are often your only option. the "best" items they have are really just the fact that they are available.
there is no reason to ever go to one for any other reason.","attachment":null,"posted":1713729958},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2722929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2710245
REI doesnt have stock. its a co-op.
Their weird fetish for black people is purely ideologically driven.","attachment":null,"posted":1713730374},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2722931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722478
their return policy is a lot tougher in practice these days. its not 2002 anymore.","attachment":null,"posted":1713730473},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2723000,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2707378
the only black people on backpacking trails are there to mug or kill white women","attachment":null,"posted":1713744169},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2723019,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723000
I'll never pass for a woman though :'^(","attachment":null,"posted":1713746747},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2723027,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722931
REI associate hands typed this post","attachment":null,"posted":1713748361},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2723544,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700073
The only /out/ store faggier than REI is Dicks/Public Lands.","attachment":null,"posted":1713849837},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2723709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723544
and whichever one you're in at a given moment","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713884123866083.png","filename":"im right you know.png"},"posted":1713884123},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2725868,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700086
I need sun protection anytime I'm in the sun, and Mountain Hardware makes great UPF 50 hiking shirts, as well as normal flannels.
Like their trail pants too","attachment":null,"posted":1714411171},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2728160,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723544
Dicks is just a sports store. They don't sell outdoor gear. They sell football pads, golf clubs, baseball helmets, basketball hoops.","attachment":null,"posted":1714878607},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2728252,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728160
Dick's is an 8 billion dollar family of companies with 41,000 employees. Dick's -branded stores do sell outdoor gear. including tents, fishing gear, camp stoves, lanterns, sleeping bags and, formerly, firearms such as duck hunting shotguns and ammunition.
Ignoramous.","attachment":null,"posted":1714909189},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2730211,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728252
This is going in my cringe compilation","attachment":null,"posted":1715283432},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2730335,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2700162
They infact have a whole section of their store dedicated to specifically used items and only used items","attachment":null,"posted":1715304952},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2730337,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730211
they do sell outdoor stuff though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715305159},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2730339,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719100
>Membership *is* worth it if you go more than once a year and like the coupons
nice try, shill. outside of the initial rebate thing, i'd have to come back to buy things i dont need.","attachment":null,"posted":1715305959},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2730519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730211
My local dicks has a section for fishing with kayaks and all. There's a camping section too I think. Don't go there much because there are better stores for hiking and camping goods.","attachment":null,"posted":1715360956},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2730520,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730339
To be fair, it's a lifetime membership. You'll make back your $30 in savings eventually.","attachment":null,"posted":1715361017},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2730530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730211
>>2728160","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715362597064372.jpg","filename":"dogwut.jpg"},"posted":1715362597},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2730535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730520
and I'm guaranteed to find those savings somewhere else","attachment":null,"posted":1715363722},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2730747,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730535
not always plus you always get the biggest savings on rei-branded items","attachment":null,"posted":1715398846},{"board":"out","thread":2700073,"pid":2732947,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730211
I'm just here to seethe at this","attachment":null,"posted":1715951108}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I really really like the way Slingbags look, but I hear they are bad for hiking since they distribute the load unevenly. How retarded would I be to get one as a daypack for 6-8h hikes with around 2500 feet elevation, hiking in the alps?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712386649064048.jpg","filename":"Hazard 4.jpg"},"posted":1712386649},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
Get a bumbag instead. If you really don’t want to be a bumchad then I guess you can use this but I don’t see the advantage over a standard backpack.","attachment":null,"posted":1712390093},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716593
There probably isn't any advantage, I just like the aesthetic.","attachment":null,"posted":1712390248},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You go out to have people look at you?","attachment":null,"posted":1712390323},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716602,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716598
Yes, I'm a self-obsessed fashion faggot, now please answer if this shit will fuck up my spine.","attachment":null,"posted":1712390644},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716598
Why yes I choose my gear based on looking badass and not min-maxing stats how could you tell?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712391690994493.png","filename":"3d4mokl12pn71.png"},"posted":1712391690},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They're not bad for hiking. They're stupidly bad for hiking. As in, a load that would have been just fine for 20 miles with a regular pack will give you serious back pain in like 2 miles with a single shoulder design. When I see people using sling bags, I automatically know they just bought it and don't actually go outside very much.","attachment":null,"posted":1712395828},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716632,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
Sorry anon, but they're only useful when you're carrying virtually nothing. That means they're OK in some situations (like when you're fly fishing and just carrying an unhooking mat and some flies), but you're better off just getting a backpack.","attachment":null,"posted":1712396025},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716633,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716598
If you look good you get +5 to all stats. Totally serious.","attachment":null,"posted":1712396327},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716640,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
there's literally 0 reason to use slingbags if you're not some sort of bike courier","attachment":null,"posted":1712397521},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
Most slingbags will be too small to put a notable amount of weight in, unless you're bringing kettlebells along for the hike. For day hikes they'd probably work okay; try one out and see if you like it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712407951},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716631
>>2716632
I figured as much, I'm already having some shoulder pain when carrying a messenger satchel at work all day.
What's even the point of slingbags then?","attachment":null,"posted":1712408110},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716691,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716683
So you can swing it around in front of you and take stuff out of it without taking it off. This is pointless unless you're doing this every five seconds at some kind of specialized job.","attachment":null,"posted":1712408972},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716602
Did you grow up playing Fortnite? It looks like some shit from that. You're not going to go outside for any substantial length of time based on what you've told us already so we can assume it won't fuck your spine.","attachment":null,"posted":1712409482},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716702,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716696
>Slingbags are a zoomer thing
The absolute state of you","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712410470193903.jpg","filename":"e55.jpg"},"posted":1712410470},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716733,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716702
They're actually a boomer thing like everything else that blatantly wrecks your body and doesn't work.","attachment":null,"posted":1712413620},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716759,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
this board is pure larp
how fucking sad do you have to be to larp fucking hiking?","attachment":null,"posted":1712417374},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716759
I feel like there's some bitter, fat, handicapped person in a gaming chair somewhere screaming "LARP! LARP!" in every single thread as a temporary alternative to suicide.","attachment":null,"posted":1712417451},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716759
"Hiking" is just walking without concrete. It's a nonhobby. You have to zazz it up. It needs zazz. Larp walking dressed like Aragorn or a tier 1 operator or a cowboy makes it muchbmore fun","attachment":null,"posted":1712418550},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716768
That's how I've always felt about snowshoeing. Snowshoes are just a tool that let you get work done in snow without burning 1000 calories per step. "Snowshoeing" is not a thing unless you have no life, and neither is hiking.","attachment":null,"posted":1712419067},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716792,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716759
Here's me at the Muttsee after hiking up from Linthal last summer. I wore a Helikon-Tex Foxtrot Mk2 with a Metal gear patch because it kinda looks like an ALICE buttpack and I like to LARP while walking around in the mountains. So yes, I LARP. But I do hike.
>>2716768
Pretty much. Watch it cause massive seethe though.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712421367148258.jpg","filename":"Muttenchopf.jpg"},"posted":1712421367},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716768
>>2716773
>>2716792
>it's the "hiking is not a real hobby" meme again
So what separates a hobby from a "non-hobby"?
Are these hobbies?
>camping
>backpacking
>trail running
>mountaineering
>rock climbing
>mountain biking
>gravel biking
>cycling
>skiing
Where do you draw the line?","attachment":null,"posted":1712423083},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716798
depends on your intention. hobby is anything you do for the sake of doing it, literally everything you can think of can be a hobby
>camping because you can't find any lodging for the night: probably not a hobby
>camping because you love the feel of sleeping in a tent: hobby
>climbing a mountain because your job requires you to do shit on top of it: not a hobby
>climbing a mountain because you love the view and fresh air: hobby
>cycling yo get from point A to point B: not a hobby
>cycling as a form of exercise: hobby","attachment":null,"posted":1712424952},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716798
I didn't say "hobby". I said "a thing". "Hobbies" are for people with no life. Snowshoes were invented for serious business like bow hunting moose to feed your family. That's why they exist.","attachment":null,"posted":1712425284},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716798
Where the skill floor isn't something a toddler can do.","attachment":null,"posted":1712425942},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716807
My dad taught me how to bike when I was in preschool. Does that mean that cycling isn't a hobby?
>>2716806
Having a hobby and having a life isn't mutually exclusive
>>2716803
Fair","attachment":null,"posted":1712426728},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716814,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716813
>My dad taught me how to bike when I was in preschool. Does that mean that cycling isn't a hobby?
Yes. Racing is though.","attachment":null,"posted":1712426774},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716814
What if you're a really bad racer who always finishes in last place? Is his participation in races considered a hobby? If not, then where do you draw the line?","attachment":null,"posted":1712426898},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716819,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716807
Also, would hiking through the wilderness with a map and compass be considered a hobby? A toddler wouldn't be able to do that.","attachment":null,"posted":1712427087},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716829,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716819
You don't do orienteering. You take walks on walking paths at parks.","attachment":null,"posted":1712428050},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716830,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716815
I changed my mind. Bicycle riding is for faggots and is not a hobby at all.","attachment":null,"posted":1712428151},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716836,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716829
How would you know what I do and don't do?
>>2716830
So what's your idea of a rEaL hObBy? Collecting gear and jerking off to it?","attachment":null,"posted":1712429077},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716836
Hunting, fishing, woodworking, songwriting, writing, things that produce value. Exercise is just basic personal hygeine.","attachment":null,"posted":1712429502},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716843
So things that are done for fun cannot be considered a hobby if there's no output?
>weightlifting or marathon running
>playing any sport or martial art
>playing chess or board games
>boating, diving, surfing, snowmobiling, ATV riding
>salsa and other forms of dancing
>any sort of collecting
>studying history, philosophy, etc.
None of those things are hobbies to you?","attachment":null,"posted":1712430237},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716843
>things that produce value
Fucking lmfao","attachment":null,"posted":1712430305},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716850,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716846
You may as well just watch tv with half of those things. Exercise is necessary and basic personal hygeine and you should be doing resistance, flexibility, and cardio training. I just wouldn't describe it as a hobby.","attachment":null,"posted":1712430424},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716850
watching tv
Also a hobby if the person enjoys it. Not the most productive hobby in the world, but a hobby nonetheless. Just because you don't like an activity doesn't mean it's not a hobby for some people.","attachment":null,"posted":1712430934},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716872,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">hobby
>a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation
That's it. If you like doing it and you're not getting paid for it, it's a hobby. Scratching your ass can be a hobby if you do it occasionally and enjoy it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712433448},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716984,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"> sling bag
> look at a 16th century equipment book and see snapsacks
Lol its just a 21st century take on an idea that has existed for centuries.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712448629215340.jpg","filename":"374f02a707d40a522a65eaebbacc9c81.jpg"},"posted":1712448629},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2716986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716872","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712449104323300.jpg","filename":"tpt62vlxcu521.jpg"},"posted":1712449104},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2717003,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716984
Lol imagine trying to do fucking anything with that piece of shit flopping all around you constantly","attachment":null,"posted":1712450900},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2717013,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
just switch sides so your spine evenly fucks up you complete imbecile.
>can fit a 5 dollar bill, 1 shirt and 1 10" rubber dick
>is even marketed as a gimmick
it's a purse you cunt","attachment":null,"posted":1712451426},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2717151,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717013
It's actually perfect size for my bong and my bad dragon","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712482183874752.png","filename":"coomer-2 (1).png"},"posted":1712482183},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2717297,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
For me, it's the Borealis sling","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1712512041278198.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-04-07 at 13.47.10.png"},"posted":1712512041},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2717300,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717297
bizarre lack of ass for a black chick","attachment":null,"posted":1712513299},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2717311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717300
Makes up for it with the size of her cock","attachment":null,"posted":1712514438},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2717318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717297
>the north face
sorry i don't support white genocide","attachment":null,"posted":1712515512},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2717897,"name":"ᚱᛖᛞ","msg":"What are the dimensions? I've been looking for a pack like this for awhile that will nicely fit my break down carbine. I like having something I can fit my rifle and some basic camping necessities.","attachment":null,"posted":1712612118},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2718040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2717897
Do you have the m&p fpc or the keltec sub 2000","attachment":null,"posted":1712650020},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2718756,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
Get a mollie","attachment":null,"posted":1712830153},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2718773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
My slingbag is relegated to dayhikes, I mean...couple hours hikes.
It fits a water bottle, a knife and a folding pad to sit on.
And I like it exactly because it's small. Same with most lumbar packs.
One the size of OP's pic is just ridiculous, if you're going with something that large, might as well take a backpack, more comfortable.","attachment":null,"posted":1712835245},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2718879,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
>hey i've heard from many, many people who are much smarter than myself that this is a bad idea for a very valid reason
>are they wrong because it lookz kewl?
you don't go outside anyway so why are you bothering with this thread","attachment":null,"posted":1712853532},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2719017,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716602
I've walked with a Maxpidition one strap pack daily for 7 years now. 10,000 plus steps in a row, 15 to 28 lbs. depending. My shoulder was repaired 10 years ago(stitched 4 places in the Labrum. Gets to me once a great while, I've had to Steroid shots in that time when it got to be a problem. I say do it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712876967},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2719019,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719017
Forgot, no spine issues.","attachment":null,"posted":1712877029},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2719075,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
Pretty stupid. I understand wanting to look good but that should be towards the end of your list of priorities","attachment":null,"posted":1712892282},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2719282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
I know a guy that has back problems because he biked with a sling bag for almost a decade and never realized the connection.
These things are awful, just get a two shoulder bag.
>>2716595
I've hiked with shoulder strap bags before as an experiment--they're awful. I'd rather just get at 20liter day pack with two straps.","attachment":null,"posted":1712955941},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2719285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
You're not gonna get back problems from a bag that small","attachment":null,"posted":1712956655},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2719636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719285
Depends how much you use it.
There is no reason to get a single strap pack though. Just get a purse if you want something impractical that you're mostly wearing for style.","attachment":null,"posted":1713038075},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2719698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Sling bags have notoriously bad ergos for comfort and weight. There are hardly any sling bags that can hold more than 10 or 15 pounds comfortable. You'd need a waist belt. You'd also need an ambidextrous sling bag so you can switch shoulders regularly as not to poopoo your posture. I still like sling bags but they are for carrying guns in that you can sling around fast and unzip and blast someone in the face while urban exing. The most notable sling bags are maxpedition and I wouldn't trust anything else much.","attachment":null,"posted":1713049876},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2720527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719698
I keep my gat in a neon fanny pack.
No one ever suspects.","attachment":null,"posted":1713223756},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2722598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716602
>>2719282
Carried a one strap toolbag for a few weeks and got horrific upper back pain, your mileage may vary. I say try it (maybe with something cheap) and see what happens","attachment":null,"posted":1713648612},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2722601,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716807
as a dude who has hiked with a toddler...you are not going very far. So it takes some skill or at least ability to put some miles on and actually get anywhere or see anything","attachment":null,"posted":1713649651},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2722649,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
It’s not that crazy of an idea. Ray Jardine does it. He hiked the PCT that way, switching shoulders, and using both if he had to scramble over something. Just because it’s unconventional doesn’t mean it’s undoable. When he wrote the PCT Hikers Handbook making your own gear and packing an ultralight load was unconventional.","attachment":null,"posted":1713660640},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2722766,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
So.
I've had the same sling bag for over a decade. The Maxpedition Sitka gearslinger. Why did I buy it, how did I use it? I had a job which entailed climbing up places and using tools. So the sling bag allowed me to bring up tools and materials while having access to them easily.
Years later and while I still feel much affection for it, it's not practical. It has a third strap to stabilize the load and bring it close to your body, but once it starts bouncing up and down due to weight you'll be done in a short while. The most comfortable way to carry it is in the front, on my chest, but that just gets stares.
Just get a small light backpack that can go tightly and comfortable against your body if you plan to walk long distances with it. If you're climbing into windows, up poles and riding bikes, rock the sling.","attachment":null,"posted":1713693032},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2723505,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
I use a modified 5.11
pic and link rel, its really nice for day packing, I have mine set up to be good for 24 hours and I can also use it as a lumbar with their series belt and I can attach it to my kelty backpack when I camp
https://www.511tactical.com/skyweight-sling-pack.HTML
I use an amazon special water bottle holder on the strap instead of bottom slot so I can do everything without taking off the pack
I've been a sling hiker for several years and you cant really beat this one with a few adjustments.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713840672630275.jpg","filename":"1689212232614.jpg"},"posted":1713840672},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2723580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Sling packs are awful, not even once.","attachment":null,"posted":1713860798},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2723581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716631
yeah just keeping my mirrorless camera on a shoulder strap was very uncomfortable on hikes after a few hours, with higher weights I'd get fed up with it real quick","attachment":null,"posted":1713861169},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2723584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716696
Anon it’s a bag from tarkov and that’s boomer vidya ..","attachment":null,"posted":1713863574},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2724237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716768
>"Hiking" is just walking without concrete. It's a nonhobby.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714013610603654.gif","filename":"1713910923901028.gif"},"posted":1714013610},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2724283,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716792
Wish they make the back of the Foxtrot with something which can vent, but on the other hand great bag.","attachment":null,"posted":1714023401},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2724323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716768
>autism: the post
Good bait.","attachment":null,"posted":1714042405},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2725783,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
if you're not carrying a 10/22 takedown in one then they're really good for looking like a faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1714387000},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2725979,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Are military bags /out/ approved or should I buy an actual hiking back pack.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714432890312179.jpg","filename":"1714432871403.jpg"},"posted":1714432890},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2727323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
I tried hunting rabbits with a sling bag on the theory that it wouldn't obstruct my shooting shoulder. It sucked.","attachment":null,"posted":1714706358},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2727345,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725979
Buy the pack which has the features you need.
If you want to add pouches etc. military bags are better.","attachment":null,"posted":1714715066},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2728285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
that looks like hell for 6-8 hours if it's full
get a butt pack like the other anon said
>>2716593","attachment":null,"posted":1714917568},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2728797,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716602
>Uneven load distribution
Yeah go ahead man","attachment":null,"posted":1715006571},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2728799,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716602
Unless you're carrying 20+ pounds of shit in it, not likely","attachment":null,"posted":1715006821},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2728803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725979
STOLEN VALOR STOLEN VALOR","attachment":null,"posted":1715007110},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2728804,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716855
Not a hobby","attachment":null,"posted":1715007181},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2728805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725979
https://armynavyoutdoors.com/usmc-issue-filbe-3-day-assault-backpack-used/?sku=2128&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_-GxBhC1ARIsADGgDjvW2tIjSwZ7-AW0Whfqxnr-mdDbtrYAT9pRoRLHYblAfRXIyYx0veUaAvk5EALw_wcB
Got issued this. Worked pretty well. Wouldn’t add much to the outside besides your entrenching tool pouch.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715007287698223.jpg","filename":"9DCF2399-9132-4B6D-A748-C6F17BF6F80A.jpg"},"posted":1715007287},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2728994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
I have a similar one to pic I got to carry my (reasonably heavy) camera.
Really bad move - the uneven weight distribution gets insanely uncomfortable in a short time.
It's convenient to get stuff out if I'm on my mtb because I can just swing it around and rummage about without taking it off.
I knew it wouldn't be good for long walks, but holy shit, I didn't realise just a couple of kilos could get so painful so quickly.
They're totally shit.
Even throwing a windbreaker, drink and small camera for an hour gets sore.","attachment":null,"posted":1715038758},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2729029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728994
yeah I use one on short day hikes sometimes and i wouldn't use it for anything more than like 3-4lbs which is like a litre of water plus misc bullshit. it's strange because you'd think what you can carry on one shoulder would be 1/2 of what you can carry on two but that's not the case at all","attachment":null,"posted":1715045730},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2729037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2719698
Also called a FANNY PACK.
it's usually just roomy enough for any 9mm pistol and a couple loaded magazines.
And a tube of chapstick and a pack of chewing gum.
Wear around your waist. Which sucks because unless it's insanely tight around your hips it will slide down constantly.
Ove gotten around that by running a strap through the little nail loop and ties around the top of my belly under the ribs Japanese style.
Otherwise around one shoulder resting on back or your chest belly area.
Anything heavier than a liter of water get a backpack.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715047758615710.jpg","filename":"1710609081969739.jpg"},"posted":1715047758},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2729107,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
Get a skinny normal backpack","attachment":null,"posted":1715061662},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2731408,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716586
>I like the way it looks
Nobody gives a fuck what your pack looks like you narcissistic little cunt. Just get the whipsnake 3700000000000 and do your thing.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715568090124711.jpg","filename":"IMG_4627.jpg"},"posted":1715568090},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2731453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731408
>whipsnaaaaaake","attachment":null,"posted":1715574570},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2731993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2716760
The image in your mind is probably pic related but the people who currently spam LARP everywhere are actually normalfags who learned it from FaceBerg during the boogaloo retard days.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715695494807575.jpg","filename":"WoW guy.jpg"},"posted":1715695494},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2733606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731408
But only in combination with Le Crevasse™","attachment":null,"posted":1716130659},{"board":"out","thread":2716586,"pid":2733795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731993
LARP - Live Action Role Play
I would say that buying garbage impractical gear because you think it "looks cool" constitutes as such.","attachment":null,"posted":1716158645}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2722997,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I got bit by a fucking tick in april.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713743844572512.jpg","filename":"tick-concept-white-background-vector-22380683.jpg"},"posted":1713743844},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723001,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"okay, very cool, i had a tick on my balls once, that shit hurt, also spent like 45 minutes digging one out of my dads shoulder with a Leatherman at a truck terminal once, blood fucking everywhere lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1713744180},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723011,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723001
>also spent like 45 minutes digging one out of my dads shoulder with a Leatherman at a truck terminal once
Why the fuck would you have to dig it out? Just grab the head firmly and pull.","attachment":null,"posted":1713745769},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723012,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
I found one on me in February","attachment":null,"posted":1713746024},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723011
aint always that simple","attachment":null,"posted":1713746431},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723015
How? It must not have been a tick if you had to dig it out with a multitool.","attachment":null,"posted":1713748745},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723001
"Two idiots in the middle of nowhere", love this type of a movie. You should have filmed the whole thing from start to finish.","attachment":null,"posted":1713750783},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
enjoy your forest AIDS.","attachment":null,"posted":1713753066},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723133,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723011
>>2723029
buddy sometimes you don't notice it for days. that's why it's important to check daily if you've been out. if you have one that's been there for days, that bitch is deep, the head will break off and you gotta dig it out. I had one so deep in my nutsack once that happened.","attachment":null,"posted":1713771633},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723147,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Get one of those meme tick twisters with a few different sizes, I thought they were dumb but they're a game changer.","attachment":null,"posted":1713776352},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723148,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
iktf bro. I got entickenated in late fucking NOVEMBER once. in NEW ENGLAND ffs
tick season apparently is 10 months now","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713776802813836.jpg","filename":"IMG_0042.jpg"},"posted":1713776802},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723149,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723011
>>2723015
>>2723133
you have to twits it to get it out without breaking the head, easy with tweezers but even easier with >>2723147
If you still fuck up just use a needle to dig in and get the head out","attachment":null,"posted":1713777695},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
You’re allergic to red meat for life now enjoy.","attachment":null,"posted":1713794649},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723248
Propaganda","attachment":null,"posted":1713795728},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723257,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't know what yall city slickers are on about. I just scratch them off, simple as","attachment":null,"posted":1713797775},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723276,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I pull at least 20 ticks off me per year. Only time I don't get them is the absolute dead of winter.
Little fuckers go straight in the woodstove.
I have a bottle of doxy in the medicine cabinet.","attachment":null,"posted":1713800169},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723283,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723248
have you ever set a foot outside?","attachment":null,"posted":1713802163},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723296,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
Did you bite it back?","attachment":null,"posted":1713804498},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723316,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723147
>>2723149
I use the lasso kind, normally, but i forgot to pack it when Dad had one deeeep in his shoulder
(also the ones for dogs are a third the price of the ones for humans, but are literally the same, just a different colour)","attachment":null,"posted":1713806718},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723325,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723316
>Using dog plastic
No thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1713807559},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723325
its literally the same except its blue, not red, bet you are too good to get painkillers from your local veterinarian too","attachment":null,"posted":1713811894},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723444,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Lmaaaoooo fucking mutt burgers complaining about lyme disease like its the black death. NIGGER come to yurop i fucking dare you, you will be glad you got the fucking lyme meme instead of TBE if you get bitten by a ticknigger here. That shit transfers the moment the ticknigger bites you unlike lyme that is time dependant. I have a relative that is paralyzed from the neck down due to TBE, its the only vaccine i've taken in my life because that shit will FUCK YOU UP
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tick-borne_encephalitis","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713827830872483.jpg","filename":"1677392729531698.jpg"},"posted":1713827830},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723552,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"ticks arnt real. have sex incel","attachment":null,"posted":1713853546},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"We used to do it with a lit match or cigarette when I was a kid lmao, didn't work, but left a cool looking scar","attachment":null,"posted":1713858858},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723567,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723353
I SAID NO THANKS","attachment":null,"posted":1713859027},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723592,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723444
who even mentioned borreliosis or the US you dumbass retard","attachment":null,"posted":1713865471},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
Oof. Those fucking things suck.
I once had one latched on the head of my prick. Took me weeks to finally remove it all.","attachment":null,"posted":1713867930},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"One of the most glaring proofs that nobody on this board goes outside is how scared to death everyone is of ticks.","attachment":null,"posted":1713868391},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723592
no one in yurop cares about lyme retard mutt
>who even mentioned borreliosis
>>2723248
>>2723060
fucking retard think before you write, surprised that you even solved the captcha lol","attachment":null,"posted":1713869312},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723611
Du bist legitim ein spast","attachment":null,"posted":1713869542},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723641,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
Do any of you know ticks? I can't find shit on pic related. Either it's not a tick or unrecorded species","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713876947148136.jpg","filename":"Resized_20240422_154312_1713815017426.jpg"},"posted":1713876947},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723641
Nvm, appears to be a wheat Mite","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713877153294260.jpg","filename":"1711855991855981m.jpg"},"posted":1713877153},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I was sad because i moved somewhere with no possums
But now im happy i live somewhere with no ticks","attachment":null,"posted":1713877441},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">tfw haven't seen a tick in years because free range chickens","attachment":null,"posted":1713898483},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723785,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You know what would really suck? A tick. On your DICK.","attachment":null,"posted":1713898875},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723643
Deep","attachment":null,"posted":1713901791},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723812,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723782
based chickenmaxxer","attachment":null,"posted":1713904097},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723826,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723611
Y so butthurt?
oh right, the forests AIDS, kek.","attachment":null,"posted":1713908836},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723834,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"biotch tried to sneak on me","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713910566085566.jpg","filename":"20240420_093736.jpg"},"posted":1713910566},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2723849,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723834
Well anon when you dress like its habitat what do you expect","attachment":null,"posted":1713911959},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725161,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">summertime bracken weeding","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714240814757551.jpg","filename":"1292700668250.jpg"},"posted":1714240814},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723148
Ticks come out whenever it gets above freezing apparently","attachment":null,"posted":1714249747},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725204,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"hey retards. smother the tick in a dollop vasoline or related. it will begin to suffocate and pull itself out. haven't used tweezers for ticks since i was 15","attachment":null,"posted":1714250239},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725279,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725200
they're such little pieces of shit","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714267518573965.jpg","filename":"anti tick condom.jpg .jpg"},"posted":1714267518},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725313,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I got bit by one of these niggers today. Am I fucked?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714271782083163.jpg","filename":"tick.jpg"},"posted":1714271782},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725382,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
haven't had tick problems since I started coating my clothing in toxic chemicals, it just worx","attachment":null,"posted":1714302460},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725430,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
I found a tick attached to my hip. Pulled it off but the head broke off so I've been carrying the head around in my hip for weeks now. It's nice having a camping buddy for a change.","attachment":null,"posted":1714314452},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"you fucking pussies, I get them all the time /out/ing in the midwest in summer
Just pull em off with pic related, ez. It helps that I can feel when they bite","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714319536293492.jpg","filename":"00c49bf0-cae7-46e9-9a36-414f78c8cef4_1.1b72fe058b6faa6026e6668623c06ed9-513774034.jpg"},"posted":1714319536},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
Thank climate change for that.","attachment":null,"posted":1714324946},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725461,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725459
>temperature goes up by one (1) degree
>ticks with lyme disease suddenly spread thousands of miles south into areas where the temperature averages 10s of degrees higher
This is what NPCs actually believe, though I use the term believe loosely as NPCs don't really believe anything they just repeat but the man on the TV said or what get them updoots on r*dd*t.","attachment":null,"posted":1714325311},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725489,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725459
If by climate change you mean the CIA","attachment":null,"posted":1714332104},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725497,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723001
man its always the balls for me","attachment":null,"posted":1714333047},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725585,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725313
Depends were you are at. in the western US Forest Aides, because of western fence lizard blood contains a protein that kills the B. burgdorferi bacteria. On the other hand we have rocky mountain spotted fever, which can kill you, but most people get over it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714351335352911.jpg","filename":"Wizard Falls Fish Hatchery.jpg"},"posted":1714351335},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2725586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725585
In the western US we don't have Forest Aides.","attachment":null,"posted":1714351395},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726307,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723001
>>2725497
Always the balls. I had one wiggling around near my asshole one time when i was a teen trying to get some pussy in a field","attachment":null,"posted":1714500855},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
walk in the sticks, get ticks on your dicks.","attachment":null,"posted":1714505748},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726433,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What are those little red tick look alikes?","attachment":null,"posted":1714520755},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726307
Did you get pussy","attachment":null,"posted":1714520859},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726514,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I got bit by a deer tick today. Am I gonna die? It wasn't engorged yet","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714533111790378.jpg","filename":"20240430_210941.jpg"},"posted":1714533111},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726514
Enjoy your rocky mountain spotted fever.","attachment":null,"posted":1714533249},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726517,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726516
but I'm in Minnesota...so Lyme disease","attachment":null,"posted":1714533384},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I was foraging some wild leeks the other day and saw a big tick on my bag. Found a couple more crawling on my leg once I got back on trail. First time I've ever seen ticks in my life and I do a lot of bushwhacking, except usually it's further north where they're not very common.","attachment":null,"posted":1714534277},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726523,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726514
nice nails faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1714534475},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726564,"name":"Gypsy Tate","msg":">>2726514
I hope you get aids, might as well live the whole meme if you paint your nails.","attachment":null,"posted":1714550793},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726574,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726514
Stop bitching about lyme disease, as long as you remove the tick within 24 hours the risk of catching lyme is basically non existant. Just be glad you dont live in russia or europe where TBE exists","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714556853777698.png","filename":"1280px-EurAsia_TBE-belt.svg.png"},"posted":1714556853},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726574
North America has the Powassan virus which can supposedly be contracted in 15 minutes. Rare but not a fun time.","attachment":null,"posted":1714568845},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726779,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726435
Hell yeah dude. She was half hispanic with big tits. When we got back the car wouldnt start and the token black guy started freaking out about dying in the woods and got everyone paranoid so they all ran the few 100 ft back to a road and called a taxi while her n i stayed in the shaggin wagon until the morning","attachment":null,"posted":1714595290},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Not tucking your pant legsinto your socks
Fucking casuals I swear.","attachment":null,"posted":1714596777},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723782
How. Me name you "Hikes with Chicken".","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714598263745951.jpg","filename":"Untitled.jpg"},"posted":1714598263},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726814,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725200
Akshually,I've picked them up even when it's freezing out.It only seems to slow them down.I think there needs to be a fairly long stretch of cold weather before they fuck off entirely.","attachment":null,"posted":1714598551},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2726855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
>bugspray
>bloused boots/putees/pants into boots
>long clothing
There. No more ticks.","attachment":null,"posted":1714610741},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2727371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is this tick thing really that bad? Here in Hawaii we have a demonic possession insect created likely by the govt called LFA (little fire ant) it infested every single crevice of every branch, leaf, fern, rock and even in the water. Sounds just like the ticks you have the eatern US? So basically ((they)) have made it impossible to enjoy the outdoors so you turn the TV back on, yes?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714721095581996.jpg","filename":"20240306_115223.jpg"},"posted":1714721095},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2727479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726855
>t. has no idea what ticks are","attachment":null,"posted":1714749176},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2727512,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
So what? There have been years where I got bit by them over 50 times and nothing ever happened.","attachment":null,"posted":1714754370},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2728462,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726574
I live in one of those orange places and I'm more scared of Lyme because I'm vax maxxed against TBE","attachment":null,"posted":1714941350},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2728601,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
>I got bit by a fucking tick in april.
east coast tax","attachment":null,"posted":1714962594},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2728657,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This fucker was in me for about 5 days before I realized it. I'm allergic to Doxy so I couldn't get it. Doc said our area is extremely Lyme heavy so if I feel any symptoms to come back and they can look for alternative treatments if I test positive for Lyme.
I've been having a headache the past 3 days, am I gonna die, anons?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714973158888005.jpg","filename":"ticks.jpg"},"posted":1714973158},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2730281,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Last year I got a tick on my dick.
A dick tick.
Last time I do gardening in shorts.","attachment":null,"posted":1715296738},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2730287,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728657
Yes
t. had RMSF, died","attachment":null,"posted":1715298023},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2730333,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723592
lyme is boreliosis","attachment":null,"posted":1715304626},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2730405,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727479
Worked for me. Ticks have to crawl on to you from foliage. Tucking your pants into your socks and spraying a ring around your ankles cuts off that access, and hit the knees and waist with it too. Then, spraying some on your wrists gets rid of 99% of ticks. You should only be getting them if you lie down or you're out there fucking bushes. I went from getting a dozen per year down to 0 just by adopting the dorky pants in socks look","attachment":null,"posted":1715323653},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2730411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
im going camping next week. and I did some research and its peak lyme season in a high risk area. FUCK
theres a fucking chance I already have lyme. I was crippled for the last two years by a mysterious illness. i was diagnosed with fucking brain damage for unknown cause, but i suspect it was lyme and I got thru it. It might not be, but I only recently got better and I'm TERRIFIED of lyme regardless.
I recently learned about lyme NYMPHS meaning a teeny tiny poppy seed sized tick. Pic related is a picture published by the CDC to get the point across about how small these fuckers can be. Theres ticks in the photo.
everyone says permethrin, but am I going to kill my friends cats or something if I treat my boots or have permethrin socks in my boots, and then later bring those boots to my friends house with cats in it etc? How easy is it to poison pets accidentally?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715326561923796.jpg","filename":"cdc.jpg"},"posted":1715326561},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2730412,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730281
but anon :<","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715326661322332.jpg","filename":"sddefault.jpg"},"posted":1715326661},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2730455,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730411
>permethrin
The risk of harming a pet is worth the benefit of avoiding Lyme carrying pests.","attachment":null,"posted":1715347431},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2730465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730411
nigga just do a blood test for it, it costs close to nothing and you'll find out if you're fucked or not","attachment":null,"posted":1715350184},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2731026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730465
i live in canada, the doctors gatekeep fucking everything here. they'll even say stuff like "there is no test for lyme" or other factually incorrect shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715472413},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2731054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725438
lmao retard","attachment":null,"posted":1715481048},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2731104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Lyme is old news. Somebody should release some Australian paralysis ticks into North America for shits and gigs","attachment":null,"posted":1715501500},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2731124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723249
Stfu , don’t tell ‘em.","attachment":null,"posted":1715515919},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2731127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
I always see these threads, and while being bed-ridden for 2 years does sound like a tough trial for any man, I would risk it instead of suffering the almost total lack of /out/ space available here.
To be stung by a wasp is the worst fate for us. Sigh.","attachment":null,"posted":1715516949},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2731128,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728657
They inspire a feeling of wanting to set them on fire, in a cleansing process. That thing should burn.","attachment":null,"posted":1715517014},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2732533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723565
you're supposed to light the match, blow it out and immediately hold the hot head of the match on the ticks ass so it dies and let's go. The you wrap a string around the ass and do a side to side motion to pull it out without breaking the head
also I didn't know this >>2725204
cool thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1715831241},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2733080,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727371
Yeah pretty much. It's to make living outside of society harder.","attachment":null,"posted":1715982176},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2733093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
Skill issue","attachment":null,"posted":1715984988},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2733104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725204
you think its suffocates with its head stuck in your ass buddy? what the FUCK were you thinking that it wont spit its disease into you before it detatches as a finall FUCK YOU. Tweese the fucker. Dont give it time to think.","attachment":null,"posted":1715987991},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2733140,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733104
They breathe through their back","attachment":null,"posted":1715997563},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2734309,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"tick thread bump","attachment":null,"posted":1716254113},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2734326,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
I have gone innawoods for more than 25 years and never once have I gotten a tick bite. I have crawled through dense Canadian bush (and I'm not just talkin about your mom) and never once gotten bit. I've found a few ticks on my boots and pants, but that's it.
I swear you people must STINK like victims or something and the ticks want to end your life instinctively. No excuse for getting lyme disease in 2024 unless God wants you to die.","attachment":null,"posted":1716256528},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2734409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">going on my first camping trip next week
does picaridin do anything, or do I really need to soak my clothes in permethrin?
Going to camp in the high sierra, have no idea if ticks are bad out there or not","attachment":null,"posted":1716284363},{"board":"out","thread":2722997,"pid":2734410,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722997
there is a good chance that you will die
and you should thanks american biolabs for this","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716284953076635.png","filename":"114731.png"},"posted":1716284953}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722759,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hey /out/,
I'm planning to go on a bike trip with this girl I like. It'll be about 70km, so we'll be out for a while.
I bought >pic rel last year for my trips so I don't have to carry all the water I need with me from the start.
Would it be too autistic to bring the water filter on this bike trip date? I'm worried she'll think I'm weird.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713690078417366.jpg","filename":"url(1)~2.jpg"},"posted":1713690078},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722771,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
First, autistic yes for my taste as I carry always enough water in the first place or at critical cases when the trip is too lengthy I carry a can and a lighter, make a small fire and boil my water.
But second, given she is actually into roadtrips and not some watered down version where she doesn't have to endure or get herself in the dirt, she may think it is cool of you to bring the filter.
That being said, what do I know, I never met a girl who's into getting few miles away from her comfortable city well-heated apartment.","attachment":null,"posted":1713696615},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
>It’ll be about 70km, so we'll be out for a while.
About 4-5 hours tops?","attachment":null,"posted":1713698353},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722776,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Yep if I ever had a date with a girl I would definitely ruin it with autistic shit like this. Go ahead bro.","attachment":null,"posted":1713700139},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722780,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722773
We'll probably stop somewhere to have a picnic or look at the scenery or something. But yeah, it's not too long, I could just bring like 2l of water and be fine.","attachment":null,"posted":1713701623},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722776
I guess you're probably right.
I should secure her first and then slowly warm her up to my autism when she's already comfortable around me.","attachment":null,"posted":1713702418},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I did 90km on saturday and had two large and one small bidons. Had half a large bottle left when I got home. Temp was about 32C.
I'd be more concerned with making sure there is a toilet stop halfway for your lady friend. Getting to the end of a ride with empty bottles won't kill you.","attachment":null,"posted":1713706593},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
>>2722780
First of all, you're overthinking it. She won't have a strong opinion either way most likely.
But on a more general level, why are you trying to hide who you are so much? If you're looking for love, wouldn't you want your partner to love you, rather than some weird projection you force yourself into to appeal to her?
Use your brain power on finding a fun route that isn't too challenging or boring and planning a nice meal for the picnic instead anon, that'll be worth a lot more.","attachment":null,"posted":1713708591},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just buy a bottle at a grocery store or gas station you'll be passing.
Fucking mental illness I swear.","attachment":null,"posted":1713709018},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722831,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722807
This anon is correct. If you're worrying about a girl thinking you're "weird" then you've already lost. Find someone who appreciates your "autism".","attachment":null,"posted":1713714062},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2722902,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722807
Beautiful answer, this anon knows how it is.","attachment":null,"posted":1713726633},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2723251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722939
At least he has one that shares his interests and I couldn't be more proud of OP.","attachment":null,"posted":1713796395},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2723259,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722807
this. don't overthink and don't be someone your not, because in the long run it'll only make things worse","attachment":null,"posted":1713798159},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2723327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722807
Look man, I get what you're saying but I just don't want to spook her.
I know female brains just work different and I'm worried about giving her the 'ick' or something and then this beautiful little thing that we might have shared would have never happened.","attachment":null,"posted":1713808051},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2723464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
If something like this freaks her out, she's not the one for you. You do you, don't pretend to be someone else. Otherwise she's not necessarily into you but rather who you're pretending to be. So unless you're willing to become that, don't pretend to be. Honesty and sincerity go a long way. Either she'll think you're clever or a weirdo, either way, you'll know what you need to.","attachment":null,"posted":1713832221},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2723725,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722807
>why are you trying to hide who you are so much?
Bruh you can't just reveal your whole self at once, recipe for disaster","attachment":null,"posted":1713888719},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2725458,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Update:
It's happening next Thursday. I roughly planned a route that would take about 100km to complete full circle but has an exit point at about 66% where we could just take a train home if we are too exhausted.
We met up yesterday and planned it out together, got some equipment we were lacking. I even told her about the water filter and she didn't seem thrown off by it.
I'm so excited.","attachment":null,"posted":1714324279},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2725471,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725458
Nice, Anon!
I’ll just ask because everyone will want to know: what are the chances of sex?","attachment":null,"posted":1714328990},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2725475,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
>I'm worried she'll think I'm weird.
No dude, Jesus Christ. If she asks, you tell her what you're telling us: "I didn't want to be carrying all that damn water with me all the time"","attachment":null,"posted":1714330307},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2725479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725475
Then she might say: "It's not that much water what are you talking about? You can't carry around 2l of water? Eww, gives me the ick"
Don't worry dude, I played this all out in my head already.
>>2725471
Sex on a bike trip? In the burning heat out in public with kids watching? Oh you bet your ass we're fucking.","attachment":null,"posted":1714330738},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2725488,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725479
>the ick
If she even mentions "the ick" in a manner that isn't ridiculing other women for saying it, leave her immediately. If you're biking in the middle of nowhere, puncture her tires and then leave her.","attachment":null,"posted":1714331942},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2725490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725479
>Eww, gives me the ick
Cut your losses, abandon ship.","attachment":null,"posted":1714332324},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2725491,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725490
I don't think you understand.
I can't keep fucking cutting these losses, I'm already vaginally bankrupt, nigger.","attachment":null,"posted":1714332450},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2725493,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725491
>im pathetic
Yeah we got that the minute you started overreacting about a water filter","attachment":null,"posted":1714332584},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2725537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725491
You'll still be a sad virgin, just one without any self-respect because you stuck around with a woman who is actively looking for reasons to shit on you","attachment":null,"posted":1714339044},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2726219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
it isnt about the water filter anon it is about you being confident about your water-filter. or your dick. or yourself in general. that is all you need to know.","attachment":null,"posted":1714484477},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2726355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
>water filters are weird
do zoomers really? the fuck is weird about a water filter.","attachment":null,"posted":1714506704},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2726374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714509700016264.png","filename":"The Hydranus.png"},"posted":1714509700},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2726544,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726355
See:>>2725479
Anyways, we're meeting up in two hours. I'm gonna have to get ready soon.
I made up my mind and I will bring the water filter, don't know if I actually pull it out, iykwim.","attachment":null,"posted":1714541705},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2726556,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726374
the fuck","attachment":null,"posted":1714543582},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2726582,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726374
>No automatic enema apparatus for biking
NGMI","attachment":null,"posted":1714559514},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2726587,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725479
>the ick
>because of a water filter
Lmao wtf dude I know the sexual market is fucked up nowadays but jésus...","attachment":null,"posted":1714560380},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2726746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Update:
I showed her my water filter and she loved it. Then I pulled out my little camping stove and brewed us some coffee after we had been biking for two hours and she loved that too. I think she's head over heels for me.
We even went swimming later in the trip and that was the first time I saw her in underwear.
Yeah boys, I think I'm gonna make it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714589751},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2726759,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726746
Happy for you, anon!","attachment":null,"posted":1714592984},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2729010,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
Where do you live that you can't just drink from a creek?","attachment":null,"posted":1715041776},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2729084,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729010
Evropa","attachment":null,"posted":1715055773},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2729087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729010
Literally anywhere with a deer population on earth below 11,000ft if you aren't stupid","attachment":null,"posted":1715056212},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2729112,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726746
Sounds pretty gay","attachment":null,"posted":1715063370},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2729154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729112
It's gay to have sex with a woman now.
Fascinating times we're living in.","attachment":null,"posted":1715074499},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2730309,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
>70km
That's like 4 hours, no?
Just a liter of water a piece should do it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715301934},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2730312,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
If you have gyatt rizz you can skibidi her only in Ohio.","attachment":null,"posted":1715302257},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2730563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hey /out/, she just asked me to do another tour tomorrow.
How do you make a move on an /out/ girl?","attachment":null,"posted":1715368776},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2730617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726746
Congrats, anon. Proud of ya.","attachment":null,"posted":1715376845},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2730621,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
No, if anything you are autistic for overthinking such a minuscule thing. Enjoy your trip.","attachment":null,"posted":1715377102},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2730622,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
i don't think ive done a hike where i ever needed more than 4 or 5 water bottles. just load up on these bad boys and ration (brand doesn't matter)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715377230182192.jpg","filename":"273967.jpg"},"posted":1715377230},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2730625,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730563
just sit close to her when you stop for a rest under a tree to eat and give her a look.","attachment":null,"posted":1715377352},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2730771,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730563
ask yourself what a bear would do","attachment":null,"posted":1715406746},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2732398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
let us know how the date went, anon
Anyways, if she likes you at all she'll look over it.
You don't want to spend too much time with someone who wouldn't at least find it interesting","attachment":null,"posted":1715804060},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2733449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722759
yeah show her your colostomy bag too since you need a iv line to go on a 70km 'trip' sick man","attachment":null,"posted":1716088812},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2733652,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733449
At least I have a woman who is willing to drink my piss.
>>2732398
I'm gonna put it this way, many more trips are planned.","attachment":null,"posted":1716139613},{"board":"out","thread":2722759,"pid":2734311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723327
If she gets the 'ick' over you doing something thoughtful and interesting, then she doesn't care about your 'beautiful little thing'. You can always just tell her in advance you want to try out a new piece of gear (your filter) but if she wants bottled water you'll plan in a stop / carry it for her. Then you're both thoughtful and true to yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1716254291}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2723840,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"McCandlessbros.. our response?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713911380753109.jpg","filename":"84.jpg"},"posted":1713911380},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2723844,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723840
He represents the need to bring back involuntary commitment as a public mental health tool.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713911557054796.png","filename":"McCandysoyass.png"},"posted":1713911557},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2723845,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723844
Why is he wearing a Nascar uniform?","attachment":null,"posted":1713911642},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2723847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723846
stop molesting children.
>butbut muh priestarinos!
all kiddy diddlers go in the same chipper.","attachment":null,"posted":1713911831},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2723869,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723840
According to the book, he was nothing like the movie portrayed him to be. Also he died a virgin.","attachment":null,"posted":1713914203},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2723894,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723845
Some copy pasta that doesn’t really make sense to me, equating McCandles to a nascar racer who enters a race in Mexico on a bicycle or something like that","attachment":null,"posted":1713918922},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724023,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723847
What happened here","attachment":null,"posted":1713954830},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724053,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723845
He caused so much seething that an anon took the time to edit the pic and write a shitty copypasta, not worth reading.","attachment":null,"posted":1713964358},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723840
is this even remotely shocking for someone who became a recluse","attachment":null,"posted":1713967664},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724102,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723844
if you knew a loved one who had survived (U.S.) mental health facilities, you wouldnt even joke about this","attachment":null,"posted":1713968450},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724131,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"yes, people who don't follow the herd are generally considered weird m wow","attachment":null,"posted":1713976482},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724145,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Clean it up, jannies.","attachment":null,"posted":1713978571},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724175,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724102
The decriminalization of mental illness has been an unmitigated disaster.
Housing the mentally ill on the street is worse, both to them and the communities they blight.","attachment":null,"posted":1713990762},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724194,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724145
they allow garbage like the vagrant scum thread and fucking pipe smoking
this board has the most fucked in the head jannies on the site","attachment":null,"posted":1713997957},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724197,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724194
>they deleted my homo thread bloo bloo bloo
Are you going to bitch in every thread fag","attachment":null,"posted":1714000502},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723840
Who cares about how he was perceived in society? This is the outdoors board, not the society board","attachment":null,"posted":1714001528},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724203,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724145
>>2724194
The jannies are lazy. That's why they let the shitposts take over the board. They only do the bare minimum and they don't have any real interest in the quality of the board.
>>2724197
>defending jannies
lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714002375},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724207,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724200
unfortunately, /out/ is overrun with the mentally infirm who don't care about actual outdoor activities, but just to use the 'idea' of the outdoors as a stage for their ineffectual coping mechanisms.","attachment":null,"posted":1714002789},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724207
Shut up nerd","attachment":null,"posted":1714021423},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724302,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724270
shhh, we will get you into a secure bughouse as soon as we can, the pendulum back swing is going to make this inevitable.","attachment":null,"posted":1714032941},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723840
Clean it up jannies.","attachment":null,"posted":1714043598},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723847
Kiddy diddlers get to avoid going to the chipper as long as religious communities are around to shelter them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714045049},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723844
No. The ONE thing he did right was go out in the woods. Weird, crazy, maladjusted people are better off if they go out into the frontier. Unfortunately those are getting harder and harder to find. That way, they either don't make it (problem solved) or they do make it and live far away from everyone else. Better for all involved.","attachment":null,"posted":1714048356},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">breaks into your cabin and steals your shit
What was his problem?","attachment":null,"posted":1714051788},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2724985,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724359
Didn't he """break into""" a publicly available hunting shack with no supplies?","attachment":null,"posted":1714185886},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2725034,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724985
He broke into a few places","attachment":null,"posted":1714192514},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2725606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723840
Clean it up, jannies! Stop being lazy!","attachment":null,"posted":1714353836},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2726251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725034
He didn't.","attachment":null,"posted":1714489848},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2726268,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726251
He did","attachment":null,"posted":1714493354},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2726281,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726268
Source","attachment":null,"posted":1714495558},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2726350,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724102
>who survived
the entire point is to shove undesirable people that nobody likes into an institution where they will never escape and therefore interact with other human beings. most people do not want to 'fix' the mentally ill, they just want them gone. Its the same with prisoners. I do not care if you 'rehabilitated' a murderer or a theif, keep that animal away from me.","attachment":null,"posted":1714506057},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2726390,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726281
I made it up.","attachment":null,"posted":1714511894},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2726589,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723869
Truly our guy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714560589},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2727526,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724347
Why wouldn't he just buy a plot of land out in the frontier though? They are dirt cheap.","attachment":null,"posted":1714759991},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2727582,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727526
Because he was deeply mentally ill and lacked to ability to make and follow basic plans","attachment":null,"posted":1714769668},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2727610,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727526
The "Alaskan frontier" hasn't existed for 50 years at least","attachment":null,"posted":1714779650},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2727614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727610
They still set plots of land on it to this day.","attachment":null,"posted":1714780887},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2727619,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724175
Homelessness is a housing problem. If we didn't have policies that made it illegal to build cheap housing we would not have homelessness like we do. It just looks like a mental illness/drug addiction problem because those are the people who can't compete for the limited housing available. If you gave them money they'd get a place and in the process displace someone else into homelessness. We need more homes and we need a lot more small and cheap homes.","attachment":null,"posted":1714781948},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2727702,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727619
>Homelessness is a housing problem
hahah, no.
It's a mental illness issue with drug abuse stack on top, when you make housing for these people, they won't use it if requires following basic rules, and when you let them "self-govern", they burn it down in short order.","attachment":null,"posted":1714805348},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2727733,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723869
>he died a virgin
how is that a bad thing?","attachment":null,"posted":1714816554},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2729179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727733
Bruh","attachment":null,"posted":1715084964},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2729197,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724102
>if you knew a loved one who had survived (U.S.) mental health facilities, you wouldnt even joke about this
>how do they feel about mixing drug addicts in with them now>
good, bad?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715087417874703.jpg","filename":"gallery_medium.jpg"},"posted":1715087417},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2729218,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729197
What does this have to do with McCandless again?","attachment":null,"posted":1715089605},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2729252,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724131
>Don't own a TV or trust people that watch it
>See yards as urban dead zones
>Don't worship cars
>Don't trust corporate food or water
>See followers of organized religion as ignorant hypocrites
>Believe wetlands and forests are more important than "Infrastructure"
>Don't worship money
>Don't care about status and dispose people covered in status symbols
>Don't slather yourself in artificial scent chemicals
>Don't succumb to group think
>See obvious logical fallacies in public education
YOURE A FREAK!!! PUT HIM ON A WATCH LIST!!!","attachment":null,"posted":1715097002},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2729254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727619
>There just aren't enough houses bro
>Just give them money bro
dear god you're retarded if you believe this
Never mind that every time this has been tried it's failed completely... because they prioritize illegal immigrants over the locals.","attachment":null,"posted":1715097131},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2729282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727619
Small cheap homes filled with the mentally ill, poor and drug addicted are called barrios. You have a very unrealistic view of the world.","attachment":null,"posted":1715101140},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2730788,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"He didn't do his research and Alaska is one bitch of a teacher and doesn't give a fuck about you.
I mean he found a dead moose and let the majority of the meat go rancid because he had no idea how to preserve the meat. Come the fuck on dude.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715412630551788.jpg","filename":"sad-cat.jpg"},"posted":1715412630},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2730793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723840
But then the natives would say our "good hygiene" is what makes us stink out the forest and scare animals away. To them, our modern smells are as foul and offensive as an unkempt smelly person.
Some would say he was LARPing correctly.","attachment":null,"posted":1715413385},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2730796,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727526
He would have had to get a job and save the money. Right out of college he decided that none of that was for him, obviously.","attachment":null,"posted":1715413485},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2730816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729252
>I'm a defective social parasite!
>give me money, housing, exemption from all laws and expectations of functionality, also sexual access to your children!
No.","attachment":null,"posted":1715422983},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2730828,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730816
>give me money, housing, exemption from all laws and expectations of functionality, also sexual access to your children!
Did it feel good knocking down that strawman you just built","attachment":null,"posted":1715427754},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2730946,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730828
makes this post:>>2729252
calls this post strawmaning:>>2730828
lol, take your meds faggot.
also; stop perving on kids.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715455357977041.png","filename":"1276314213051.png"},"posted":1715455357},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2732070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727702
>>2727619
>is homelessness a housing problem or a mental illness and drugs problem.
Both. In Finland everyone who wants can get a house. There are still homeless people and fucked up drug addicts, but relatively less than in other places and they are relatively better integrated.","attachment":null,"posted":1715713006},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2732074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730788
He killed it with a single .22 round. It died instantly.","attachment":null,"posted":1715714091},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2732141,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732074
He could have killed it with a paper airplane for all the good it did him.","attachment":null,"posted":1715731398},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2733532,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732074
The one that he didn't preserve and ended up wasting?","attachment":null,"posted":1716117777},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2733546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730828
BRUH","attachment":null,"posted":1716122607},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2733723,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723845
>>2723894
Someone made a copypasta that has made /out/ have a seething meltdown for years.","attachment":null,"posted":1716150102},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2733728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724340
>religious communities
easywithe,,antismitisms.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716150543897131.jpg","filename":"boots.jpg"},"posted":1716150543},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2733737,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723845
Let's pretend his passion was Nascar driving...
Christopher McCandless sets off, from California in an old car he rebuilt himself (he replaced the fenders and painted it), on a trip to the Daytona 500. He only gets across the state line when he runs out of fuel because he forgot to fill it up. Instead of simply walking to the nearest gas station or flagging down help he decides to push his car over an embankment and set it on fire. He then proceeds to walk on foot to the nearest car lot (which happens to be in Mexico for some reason, mostly because he burned up his map in the car and he's been taking backroads.) He finds an old bicycle in a garbage dump and uses that.
He finally gets to the car lot and buys a fixer-upper for $50. Before leaving the car lot he has to change a tire, which he replaces with the solid rubber donut. He buys fuel and heads off to the Daytona 500 again. Only he's heading deeper into Mexico and eventually ends up broken down in front of, "Autodromo Internacional de la Jolla" due to no water in the radiator. The engine block has seized up. Luckily, there's a race about to start. Christopher...er "Alexander Superspeeder", who changed his name, pays the $125 entry fee for the race.
Unfortunately, Alexander Superspeeder doesn't have a race car. He does however have an old bicycle still. He uses the bicycle to race. He makes it only 3 laps before he is too tired to steer straight and veers off into a race car and is killed.
Some Jew picks up his story and writes a book about his life and how he followed his dreams. Another Jew makes a movie about it. Armchair racers around the world adore him.
The End.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716151650558186.png","filename":"1705556750514526.png"},"posted":1716151650},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2733741,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733737
>McCandless takes up racecar driving
>dies
>a bunch of terminally indoors anons who used a Power Wheels one time seethe endlessly about the fact that he didn't die the way they wanted
>they never take up driving
ftfy","attachment":null,"posted":1716151874},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2734426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733737
Based Nascarposter strikes again","attachment":null,"posted":1716289163},{"board":"out","thread":2723840,"pid":2734432,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730788
>>2732074
The forced scene in the film where the guy tells him "be careful of rancid meat" and then he goes and does it anyway without remembering. Then his little nepotist bitch sister (the actress whose parents are directors) recollects it later like we weren't observing the entire thing. What a shit film.","attachment":null,"posted":1716289833}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't know how to use a compass. I cannot read a paper map. I only use my phone.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713835630312657.jpg","filename":"3068634924513901.jpg"},"posted":1713835630},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
I've got you beat. I don't even know how to navigate with a phone. All I can do is use GPS in the car.","attachment":null,"posted":1713836537},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
>>2723478
Fucking rookies. I can't use a GPS. My wife has to give me directions when I drive.","attachment":null,"posted":1713837654},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723485,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723483
I grew up using Mapquest and I would print out the turn by turn directions. Now I use google maps. I'm wondering if I should try waze or something else just because google maps is kinda shit at telling you which lane you need to be in for turns
god i love being able to use a phone to hike though, you just start walking a little bit and you can see if you are going off trail","attachment":null,"posted":1713837894},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723487,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
When is elon musk going to just add a waypoint hud to our vision like videogames","attachment":null,"posted":1713837950},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723495,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
I carry a generator and a satellite dish so I can access the internet on my laptop while I hike","attachment":null,"posted":1713839711},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723496,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723495
all I want is like a little stand so I can look at my phone before bed when I'm out","attachment":null,"posted":1713839752},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't know where I am","attachment":null,"posted":1713865604},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I implanted the brain chip. AI gives me all the direction I'll ever need.","attachment":null,"posted":1713865919},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723593
listen here fat","attachment":null,"posted":1713878398},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2723657,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
I carry a marble sundial with me at all times.","attachment":null,"posted":1713878537},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724128,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">he doesn't use a plumb line, pocket watch and protractor to navigate
I shiggy diggy","attachment":null,"posted":1713976157},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724719,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
just follow where the red arrow points to
ez","attachment":null,"posted":1714137319},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724752,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724719
instructions unclear got detained in Mypmahck authorities think I'm a spy? please send help help","attachment":null,"posted":1714142105},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724754,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724719
yeah but i am east coast usa and i cannot figure out am i suppose to rotate it left or right to account for magnetism or whatever","attachment":null,"posted":1714142724},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724755,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've never used a physical map and compass before but I assume if you're completely lost you're supposed to orient the map so that north on the map aligns with north on your compass and use landmarks to figure out where you are","attachment":null,"posted":1714143113},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724759,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724755
>landmarks
this does not work in a dense forest lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714144089},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724764,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724759
That's why you go towards a trail or body of water, assuming you know what side of it you're on","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714145083126927.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1714145083},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"what do you mean you dont know how to read it
the arrow points fuckin north
its not that hard","attachment":null,"posted":1714160261},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724888,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724764
>a trail
Lmao,what fun is that?","attachment":null,"posted":1714166020},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
How do I adjust for magnetic declination on my phone?","attachment":null,"posted":1714166156},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724898,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724755
basically you box yourself in. river north, road west, ridge south, trail east. keep an awareness of where you are. also the op reads as his hobby being paper map navigation. i can do both and hiked for the first 30 years of my life only using paper maps, but i rather just quick check my app on my phone and not spend time on it. rarely need to, but if i feel like it its easier. the real issue is how digital navigation being so quick makes people more likely to over check where they are or how many miles are left.","attachment":null,"posted":1714167156},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724916,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724888
Can you name me a single national or state forest that doesn't have a single trail?","attachment":null,"posted":1714172122},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Well, this is my first post on /out/, so if I’m a newfag here, as a high mountain and speleo search and rescue operator, I can tell you that learning even basic land navigation and developing your orientation skills can save your butt like you have no idea. Among that, knowing first aid, basic survival, and for the love of God, knowing how to start a fire (the number of poor unfortunate souls who could have been saved from perishing in stupid accidents and the cold is freaking overwhelming, anon) is the minimum that everyone who wants to engage in any activity or lives in a wild area should learn. Go to a land navigation course and practice, take a damn wilderness first aid course with certification, take a basic survival course and practice even in your home park. Seriously, anon, if you knew the amount of stupid people who go to the woods or high mountains without experience, lacking safety equipment, and only using wikilock, believing that nature is like on YouTube, it’s excessively abysmal. But it’s even sadder to find them and carry their bodies on the sked and see their faces of fear and the tear marks on their faces. Get trained, do it for yourselves and your families, please.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714174712145947.jpg","filename":"6c16cc01-d464-4de3-80ba-8bcea6f41437.jpg"},"posted":1714174712},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724978,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723485
>you just start walking a little bit and you can see if you are going off trail
this. Ive done 2 mile through-hikes where Im basically glued to the screen to make sure im not veering off trail","attachment":null,"posted":1714184709},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2724990,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724922
>Among that, knowing first aid, basic survival, and for the love of God, knowing how to start a fire
Gonna do this so I can feel like I got special training just like Big Boss","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714187176096247.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1714187176},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725011,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724128
Wait you can't tell were you are by just looking at the trees, the rocks, the sky, and slope of the land. I find I don't often need to look at a compass or a map to know were I am. I do carry them, and know how to use them. Just don't need them much.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714188741103492.jpg","filename":"Wizard Falls Fish Hatchery.jpg"},"posted":1714188741},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724990
Not really special training, I always carry a first aid kit, and at least three forms of fire starting( lighter, water proof matches, and knife and ferro rod.) make that 2 knives a steel cup a steel single wall water bottle, Braided Bank Line, paracord, walking stick( or cane,) Ramen( or cop of noodles, and a candle.","attachment":null,"posted":1714189545},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725024,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725021
What do you mean by "first aid" and "basic survival"?
Is that not just knowing how to treat a wound with antiseptic and dressing it? What is basic survival aside from keeping warm and dry?","attachment":null,"posted":1714189692},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
That's not something you should be bragging about anon. It's a flaw, not a feature. Go learn a useful skill you dumb fucking faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1714197161},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725057
phone navigation is a skill
its 2024 grandpa","attachment":null,"posted":1714197704},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725060
What are you going to do when your cellphone dies, you never learned to use a paper map so didn't bother packing one, and you have to find your way back to your vehicle?
Let me guess, that'll never happen to you. You're careful. You've never broken a cellphone in your life and you packed a spare battery pack. Well, you're throwing the dice on dying of exposure a quarter mile from your car because you never learned how to navigate properly.
Throw the dice all you'd like, just don't brag about it like you're some sort of badass because you take stupid risks that could be easily avoided.","attachment":null,"posted":1714200830},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725076,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725070
plug it into the backup battery","attachment":null,"posted":1714202210},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725076
Murphy law is a bich anon","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714203180737154.jpg","filename":"ffe29125-e2f9-4488-ac2d-98c9d2903897.jpg"},"posted":1714203180},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725108,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725076
You.... shouldn't touch grass. It might legitimately be bad for your health. Just you though.","attachment":null,"posted":1714226997},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725024
This is a genuine question, by the way. I really want to know what knowledge I should have to prepare for unexpected","attachment":null,"posted":1714227171},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725136,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
most basic crash course
>red arrow always point north'ish
enough to prevent you from going in circles
crash course in navigation
>you are on the summit of red, you want to camp next to the small pond at blue, fog is dense and you cant see shit
>lay out compass on map like this, side of compass along your planned route
>ignore the actual compass needle for now...
>turn twisty dial on compass so north align with north on the map
>this is your compass direction
>turn around so compass needle north align with twisty dial north and walk in the direction of the arrow on your compass
and thats how you get there","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714234803157823.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240427_181229.jpg"},"posted":1714234803},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725152,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725136
Good stuff anon, thanks for posting","attachment":null,"posted":1714239769},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725109
You need to be able to get back is something go wrong. There is no 911 out there, it only you, and what you bring with you. You might have to walk 30+ miles to get back.","attachment":null,"posted":1714263259},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725373,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724755
The compass has 3 purposes:
1. Where is north? Aka map alignment
2. Am I walking in fucking circles in this dense brush? I can't tell, but the compass can
3. Is the landmark I spot in the horizon the one that is actually north in the map, or is it something else entirely?","attachment":null,"posted":1714292202},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725136
might want to mention magnetic declination, how to calculate it, and how to input it in your compass
otherwise doing this will give you the wrong bearing right from the start
magnetic north and geographic north aren't the same","attachment":null,"posted":1714340581},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725548
>what is a crash course","attachment":null,"posted":1714341188},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725553,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725109
First aid for bleeding, fracture, hypothermia
Nav enough to head back whence you came
Survival for setting up shelter, starting a fire, signaling for rescue
And most importantly, ALWAYS leave a detailed note of your itinerary and someone who will notice if you don't return on time","attachment":null,"posted":1714341653},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725574,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725550
>gets lost","attachment":null,"posted":1714348030},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725576,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725574
YES!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714348333627087.jpg","filename":"ochoco-black-canyon-wilderness001.jpg"},"posted":1714348333},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725577,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
Right when I started to learn to drive garmins were getting popular and my parents got me one. I've lived in the same city (Houston) now for almost 30 years and only know a few of the major roads. Sure I'll recognize a name sometimes but have no idea where anything is relative, be it an area, street, or whatever. I think this GPS stuff ruined my sense of directions while driving.","attachment":null,"posted":1714348589},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725670,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725548
>>2725574
>hurr durr he didn't make his basic explanation complicated enough
If you're trying to navigate long distances in poor visibility without knowing how to use a compass you'll probably have a bad time, regardless of whether the anon on a Moroccan oil painting forum mentioned fucking declinations","attachment":null,"posted":1714365943},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2725685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723487
I refuse to go /out/ until it'll look something like pic related","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714369271908585.jpg","filename":"Fyg9PHlX0AEk4l4[1].jpg"},"posted":1714369271},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2726077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725670
>>2723474
>>2724754
>>2725152
I made picrel for a landnav quick rundown. It is simple, you don't need to be smart to understand this, it just looks complex
This post >>2725136 is gud, but it's only one part of the process","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714446260470086.jpg","filename":"LandNav.jpg"},"posted":1714446260},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2727653,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
ok","attachment":null,"posted":1714791283},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2727672,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
I'm the opposite of the modern human. I navigate by landmarks and memorized routes more than street names, addresses, and gps.","attachment":null,"posted":1714793073},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2727706,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725548
no, i specifictly didnt mention that. because its not relevant on short distances and will only cause confusion and raise the bar even higher. a compass and map is some of the simplest navigation tools there is, knowing it makes for great hikes and might save lifes. the world was discovered by less accurate means...
going achtually on magnetic declination and other autistic facts makes no sense.","attachment":null,"posted":1714808181},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2727843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725548
It's magnetic north and the centripetal axis. The axis of spin isn't polar (non magnetic).
The centripetal axis is referred to as Geoditic north or True north. I've never heard it called geographic north by anyone versed in navigation but I live in America and maybe that's a euro thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1714839763},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2727859,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726077
>it's only one part of the process
Am I the only one around here who knows what "crash course" means","attachment":null,"posted":1714840796},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2727947,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727859
That was not a crash course, that was one little tid bit of a larger process.
>how drive car?
>there's the gas pedal
How about we stop assuming everyone is fucking retarded and give the necessary info instead of just enough to get someone confidently lost","attachment":null,"posted":1714853957},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2727950,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727706
If you're going to use a map with your compass use it right, skipping magnetic declination can kick you off course significantly over a few km.
Unless your aiming for broadly "over there"","attachment":null,"posted":1714854492},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2727953,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727947
>stop assuming everyone is retarded
>he said, in a thread full of retards who can't read","attachment":null,"posted":1714855048},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2727957,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727843
Not euro
I am translating from french, where the term makes sense. Thanks now I know how to call this in anglo.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714855316377968.png","filename":"quebec-flag.png"},"posted":1714855316},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2728499,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727950
>skipping magnetic declination
why does everyone always explain it in such a complex manner rather than saying "east coast us turn the compass a little to the right, west coast a little to the left"","attachment":null,"posted":1714946972},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2728543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I spent a while trying to learn from youtube videos how to navigate with a compass and map and just found it confusing. Then I went outside and spent 15 minute practicing "can you find NNE?" and "what is the bearing to that stop sign?" and it was the simplest thing ever. Magnetic declination adds a bit more confusion. For me, I always got confused about adjusting left/right if you're positive or negative adding removing if taking or following a bearing. I found it much easier to visualize the needle tending to point slightly towards the mississippi from where I'm standing. Take your bearing like you normally would and then just rotate the compass so it points towards the mississippi in the amount equal to the absolute declination. Or just buy a compass with adjustable declination because if you're in a survival situation you want to be 100% positive you won't fuck it up.","attachment":null,"posted":1714952261},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2728868,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
This is the absolute basic,skill of an Infantryman.
It’s really not that hard to learn and understand.
However,it’s all good for me,having been an Infantryman the past 22yrs,but there will be somewhere,on the Internet,which can explain this basic skill?","attachment":null,"posted":1715017199},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2729019,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723487
>add a waypoint hud to our vision
peakvisor is the closest you'll get right now.
>>2724755
>you're supposed to
keep track of where you are along the way.
too much to go in to here. takes a fair bit of practice to get it right.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715043144030462.png","filename":"Screen Shot 2024-05-07 at 12.47.17.png"},"posted":1715043144},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2729072,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Colonel told me to find the little red boxes in the woods, and I did. It’s pretty easy","attachment":null,"posted":1715052742},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2731390,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"many such cases","attachment":null,"posted":1715565355},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2731611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724890
Download Trailsense","attachment":null,"posted":1715613965},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2733891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723474
Never even seen a compass in person. I only use my GPS and Google Maps.","attachment":null,"posted":1716171712},{"board":"out","thread":2723474,"pid":2734169,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727957
Most people actually call it geographic north in the Caribbean so something to keep in mind if you have the misfortune to be dealing with thirdies.","attachment":null,"posted":1716231651}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"wild animal feeding thread, here’s me feeding a deer","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714241178366293.jpg","filename":"7FACC864-A235-4159-A0F4-79ACF70FC770.jpg"},"posted":1714241178},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725168,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"please don't post the skin parasite video
please don't post the skin parasite video
please don't post the skin parasite video","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714241773073393.png","filename":"cryingout.png"},"posted":1714241773},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725168
What","attachment":null,"posted":1714243388},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I wonder if a deer would eat a McDonalds?","attachment":null,"posted":1714317858},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725171
never seen it on deer, seen it on dogs and horses though","attachment":null,"posted":1714318104},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725446,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725168
for me it's the moose with millions of ticks","attachment":null,"posted":1714321591},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725166
enjoy your chronic wasting disease","attachment":null,"posted":1714373248},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725885,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725712
I’m fine! Anyway here’s me enjoying the presence of some friendly armadillos.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714413996644636.jpg","filename":"D1AF7B93-A354-44FC-B045-0C47B4F7F95A.jpg"},"posted":1714413996},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725886,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Fed some grass to some sheep! Really cute, even had lambs!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714414543503071.jpg","filename":"20240414_145826.jpg"},"posted":1714414543},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My wife and I feed the ducks in a local park fairly often. We’re in the South, and in the winter it’s a mix of local ducks and Canadian geese, ostensibly having flown south for the winter.
The geese are just as tame as the ducks (though with a bit of an asshole streak; they’ll bite and chase one another). They’ll all eat right from our hands and have no fear of humans.
Do these geese just fly in from another park? They don’t seem wild.","attachment":null,"posted":1714415183},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725166
Did she put out for you?","attachment":null,"posted":1714415728},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725166
Why would anyone feed TheROUSes?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714427230598732.jpg","filename":"mackenzie pass.jpg"},"posted":1714427230},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725957,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725889
They probably have indeed spent their whole lives in human-adjacent areas where they were able to never learn a healthy fear of humans.","attachment":null,"posted":1714428563},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2725965,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725889
>The geese are just as tame as the ducks
I'm guessing they aren't around their young, because here in Canada the geese are assholes.","attachment":null,"posted":1714430177},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2726109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725885
Watch out for bubonic plague unironically","attachment":null,"posted":1714455424},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2726256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Not wild but I feed some farmer's goats the weeds on the side of the road, its free labor for him when I think about it","attachment":null,"posted":1714490546},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2726438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725166
Very cute deer, good job anon","attachment":null,"posted":1714520920},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2726460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726109
You're thinking of leprosy. Bubonic plagues carried on fleas and usually you only see it out west in deermice in the States.","attachment":null,"posted":1714524273},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2726947,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNYBfpCqB2U","attachment":null,"posted":1714650545},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2727070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725886
Watch out for cholera","attachment":null,"posted":1714665944},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2727592,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725712
>>2726109
>>2727070
you sound like someone with a really fun life","attachment":null,"posted":1714772239},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2729758,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715191885001411.jpg","filename":"nomnommon.jpg"},"posted":1715191885},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2729762,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Feedumbirds,,,,we all doit.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715192204691730.jpg","filename":"IMG_0362.jpg"},"posted":1715192204},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2729846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729758
what is that","attachment":null,"posted":1715203833},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2729851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729846
kitfox,,,named Foxy,,,,although i cantell the 2 apart?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715204666039612.jpg","filename":"kitty.jpg"},"posted":1715204666},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2730114,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"last fall in sw Colorado","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715262585234343.gif","filename":"20231011_142818_1_2.gif"},"posted":1715262585},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2730125,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725166
Well, technically, I didn't feed it, but it did eat the leaves of my bushes. Took this last fall, from my backdoor window.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715265568663709.jpg","filename":"some_deer_thing.jpg"},"posted":1715265568},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2730127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730125
When I opened the backdoor to take a better picture, it spotted me and ran off. Here's mommy giving me the evil eye, as I tried to take a picture of her deer kid.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715265704607695.jpg","filename":"modder.jpg"},"posted":1715265704},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2730187,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730114
Is this a whiskey jack?","attachment":null,"posted":1715277636},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2730217,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730187
yes! i know it as a canada jay but i believe its the same bird.","attachment":null,"posted":1715284920},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2730327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726460
Oh yeah, yr right bud
>>2727592
Thanks anon, i love my life","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715304054402351.png","filename":"1715227853827428.png"},"posted":1715304054},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2730344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725166
a high level source just informed me that OP has died from chronic wasting disease","attachment":null,"posted":1715306335},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2730387,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730344
this is terrible news","attachment":null,"posted":1715319214},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2730419,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730387
additional information: he was having unprotected sex with the deer.
Remember to wrap it if you are going to slap it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715330163},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2730962,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730419
died living like a true /k/ommando...","attachment":null,"posted":1715458971},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2731000,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I gave him this worm.
I didn't except him to make such a mess of it, eating it alive and pulling it to bits.
We're still friends though.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715467792375977.jpg","filename":"robin-worm.jpg"},"posted":1715467792},{"board":"out","thread":2725166,"pid":2731090,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726460
Ground squirrels/prairie dogs too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715495124}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725462,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What's good hammock brand?
I'm in Eu
Need one for 2 pers.
Must have mosquito net and detachable rain cover","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714325368179881.jpg","filename":"2019_Gallery_1.jpg"},"posted":1714325368},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
any hammock with materials that deters bugs?","attachment":null,"posted":1714326086},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725469,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
Wise Owl and One Wind are Chinkshit brands that have pretty good reviews and lots of chatter on FB. DD is a British company that has good reviews as well. Not sure if you can get any American brands; Dutchware, Warbonnet, Henessey… they’re all pretty good.
Just make sure you get an 11’ hammock (however many cm that is) and attach a structural ridgeline.","attachment":null,"posted":1714328639},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725469
>Warbonnet
found it on amazon italy
but damn over 220$","attachment":null,"posted":1714330990},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725481,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725480
>Suffer now (financially)
Or
>Suffer later (being stuck outside with shit gear)
You choose.","attachment":null,"posted":1714331088},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725481
>if you don't meet my personal criteria for consooming you'll have a bad time
lol, no","attachment":null,"posted":1714331626},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725480
Sorry I meant the Hennessy Explorer Deluxe Asym Zip Hammock
Says it's for one person.
max capacity of 136kg
With my gf we'd exceed by a little that capacity...","attachment":null,"posted":1714331805},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725487,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725484
Lose weight fatties","attachment":null,"posted":1714331938},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725492,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i found this site that sells warbonnet in eu looks trustworthy to me but idk https://thehammockproject.mozello.shop/","attachment":null,"posted":1714332541},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725484
damn, and for that price I still have to make knots.","attachment":null,"posted":1714332735},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725512,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
ticket to the moon has kingsize and honeymoon hammocks","attachment":null,"posted":1714334980},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725484
>$220
Yeah, it’s a little expensive for what it is. Henessey and Eno are both like that; overpriced for the sake of being over priced.
>sleeping two in one hammock
Doesn’t work. All gathered end hammocks are single occupant. You can lounge with two but you won’t sleep that way.","attachment":null,"posted":1714335003},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725534,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
Two people sleeping in one hammock is not happening, sorry. Use it as a sex swing and then retire to your two single hammocks.
Hennessy seems kinda expensive but (most?) come with a attatched bugnet (which is great) and a tarp. I have the explorer deluxe and its big, super comfortable and much much sturdier than your average eno or ticket to the moon and they look sick. They are heavy tho. Mine weighs more than a ultralight 2p tent.
Eno is decent but very basic. Some of their hammocks are very lightweight and the price aint too bad concidering the weight and quality. Eno aldo makes a decent bugnet with a zipper opening.
I have no experience with DD Hammocks, but I believe they are pretty good and the prices aint too bad.
Ticket to the Moon is cheap but I dont know anout the quality. Check reviews.
Steer away from cheap chinese crap - unless youre unsure if hammocking is for you. You could get two hammocks with bugnet and tarp fir €20 each just totry, and upgrade later.
Warbonnet and Superior are really good but expensive and you might have to import them from the states.","attachment":null,"posted":1714338848},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725573,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725534
2nd this, 2 people with inevitably be smashed together by gravity. You're better off getting 2 separate hammocks. That opens up better site options and the ability to tune sleeping gear. Dutchware would have to be imported by they do some dual hammock gear.","attachment":null,"posted":1714347987},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725824,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725465
You can buy a can of permethrin and treat any tent or clothes. Problem is when it gets wet it can transfer to your skin, which is probably not great.
The Hennessy Jungle Explorer has a double-layered bottom that skeeters can't bite through. I've used it plenty in malaria/dengue areas.
>>2725494
The quality is great though. I've used the fuck out of mine for years. Besides, that's the minimum price I'd pay for a traditional tent.","attachment":null,"posted":1714401708},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725826,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725534
Hennessey is worth it because of all the little touches that make their hammocks outdoor equipment, like the little interior pockets on the tarp for each tarpline and the integral tensioners. It's clearly a product that was designed by someone who is totally obsessed with and autistic about hammock camping.","attachment":null,"posted":1714401905},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725863,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725826
Tom Hennessy <3 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YcVcKdt1P10&pp=ygUYSGVubmVzc3kgaGFtbW9jayBsYXNoaW5n","attachment":null,"posted":1714410088},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
I bought a 20€ "Naturefun" Hammock of amazon years ago and its amazing desu, just get an additional tarp and youre set","attachment":null,"posted":1714411896},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725876,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725573
Pretty sure smashing is the goal, anon","attachment":null,"posted":1714412450},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2725933,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
DD hammocks frontline is the only hammock that should be taken seriously, everything else is garbage and made for hanging in your living room","attachment":null,"posted":1714423464},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2726945,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
Some EU brands, maybe made in EU:
>Lesovik
>Bushmen
>Amazonas","attachment":null,"posted":1714648936},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2727196,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Maybe Haven safari (XL size). It's a US brand but some specialized stores sell them in EU, or you can just pay the import tax.
Otherwise there are tree tents.","attachment":null,"posted":1714683584},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2727532,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726945
Lesovik is retardedly overpriced for what it is, Bushmen straight up sucks.
If you want a Polish brand Tigerwood is good, but I don't know if they sell internationally. Also you can check your local manufacturers, hammocks aren't exactly rocket surgery.
DD Hammocks Chill Out is the most comfortable hammock I have used, the extra width really makes a difference. It doesn't come with a bug net but you can add an external one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714761468},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2727539,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727532
>x is too expensive
>y is cheap but shit
>z is good but [not available in the EU] or [not from the EU]
Pick two: Good, cheap, EU
I just got some Bushmen stuff, and I'm not in a hurry to purchase from there again. Shipping (within the EU) took a month, they didn't respond to emails and the quality and fit seems subpar. It was fairly cheap though. I'm going to supplement with hamak.de, kuhla.hu and lesovik next.","attachment":null,"posted":1714763494},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2727543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727539
Lesovik are hunting for suckers, mediocre quality for American prices.
I literally imported a tarp from Hammock Gear from the US because it came out cheaper than Lesovik's equivalent, with lower weight and better materials (and most likely better workmanship but I have not used Lesovik's tarps, only their other products and they weren't anything amazing).
Seriously go check your local producers, everyone's making hammocks these days since anyone with a sewing machine and a bit of experience can make one. It all comes down to the material used and the size. You can score a good one cheaply if you do some research.","attachment":null,"posted":1714764560},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2727573,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725933
Anon, that hammock is fucking tiny; it’s under 9’ long. It cannot fit a fully grown man. Not even a grown Mexican could fit in it. I thought Europeans were tall.","attachment":null,"posted":1714767447},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2728171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725469
Warbonnet is a wonderful hammock. I have a blackbird that I bought at the height of COVID (when camping shit was 50% higher than normal). Use it probably three to four times a year.
Despite being a great hammock, it's not really worth the price tag, unless you hate having money and are a gear queer. I won't even deny my buyer's remorse; at times I prefer my tent, since I don't have to search for a suitable place to pitch that. Hammocks you need to scout out your campsite a bit if you want to use them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714879416},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2728206,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bought hitch hammock and one wind. It just works.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714886053117235.jpg","filename":"20240421_174031.jpg"},"posted":1714886053},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2728216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What's the deal with hammocks? I heard you were never supposed to pitch your tent under a tree because branches can fall off and crush your tent, but hammockbros don't seem worry about this? What about sticky tree sap?","attachment":null,"posted":1714891296},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2728242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728171
>I can’t find to trees in a forest
Ok","attachment":null,"posted":1714904552},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2728243,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728216
You heard wrong. Trees provide an excellent wind break and a little rain cover, sort of. Just look up for dead branches. Inb4 some o about a tree killing someone.","attachment":null,"posted":1714904711},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2728293,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728206
Using the truck's exhaust to warm the hammock at night = peak comfy","attachment":null,"posted":1714918433},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2728658,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
>Leśny Ludzik
>Wydra13
Have seen good reviews for both brands, but haven't pulled a trigger yet. For now I'm still using one from Decathlon until I can decide which one to choose.","attachment":null,"posted":1714973197},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2729396,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
My cousin only hammock camped and now he’s dead. A bear ate him alive. He had just eaten honey. He used to always say, “I can move camp so swiftly thanks to my hammock”. Then a bear ate him because of the hammock. He tried to escape but the hammock flipped him around like in a comedy movie. The bear kept flipping him round and round until he was completely stuck. He had a jar of honey in his hammock too
So sad, hammocks are dangerous","attachment":null,"posted":1715119088},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2729478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725481
I dunno, Anon. This was true years ago, when all of the Chinkshit was tiny or really heavy. 10 years ago the only budget tarp options were a Kelty Noah tarp or a blue one from the hardware store. Now you can find cheap 1.6oz silnylon hex tarps on Amazon.
Quilts are still expensive. Always have been, always will be.","attachment":null,"posted":1715133678},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2729497,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Pic of my tarp.
I made it from 0.9oz membrane silpoly. The long sides have a 3” cat cut, and I think the beaks are 14”. The ridgeline is 1” grosgrain folded over o to itself (the same way Warbonnet tarps are made) rather than flat felled or a French seam (partly a skill issue lol). Guy lines are Zing it, and I use loop aliens for the suspension.
In the pic it’s in full storm mode, with the sides propped with a stick and anchored. So far I’ve only used it in two storms with a lot of wind, and I think it was more sturdy this way (rather than being anchors straight to the ground), but it was probably just in my head. If it’s not windy at all the beaks can be pulled back like on the far right, so the setup only uses 4 corner the outs plus the ridge line tie outs.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715135577845098.jpg","filename":"D403B7FA-D36B-443F-89AD-51C059934560.jpg"},"posted":1715135577},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2729919,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
OP I just saw something about gearfortrees hammocks. They look like they are in Spain and make what looks like a nice set-up. Sorry for the necro post but cool to see some euro-hammock cottage companies","attachment":null,"posted":1715216096},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
Any recommendations for an underquilt? I live in Finland and would like to have an underquilt that would be suitable from spring to autumn. Right now I have a basic bitch ticket to the moon single that I had bought as a teenager. I may have to replace the hammock as well because it feels kind of small sometimes to me. I am 191cm tall.
>>2727573
They do offer a XL version of the DD frontline. That is 3 metres long and 1,8 metres wide. They do claim on their website that the normal frontline is supposedly comfortable for users up to 196cm though. The XL version is supposedly comfortable for users up to 213cm according to their website.","attachment":null,"posted":1715261063},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730112,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730100
Quality to price ratio I don't think you can do better than Cumulus. Get the large size because their large is everyone else's regular. Shame they don't let you customize underquilts as even the large is a bit on the narrow side and I'd gladly make it wider.
Or maybe you can but you'd have to ask individually, they don't offer it on their site like they do with top quilts.
Also a 3m hammock will not be comfortable for someone taller than 180 cm, look for 3.5m options.","attachment":null,"posted":1715262390},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730113,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730100
>not even 10’ long
11’ (335cm) is standard.
>muh width
Doesn’t matter.","attachment":null,"posted":1715262563},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730115,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730113
>width
>Doesn’t matter.
Wrong.","attachment":null,"posted":1715263274},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730146,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730115
>doesn’t understand the basics
>tells others they’re wrong
Let me guess: you’re European.","attachment":null,"posted":1715270417},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730146
>doesn’t understand the basics
Ironic.
Just to illustrate with an extreme example, try a 30 cm (1 foot) wide hammock, tell me how it went.","attachment":null,"posted":1715276514},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730381,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm planning on making an underquilt with Climashield Apex insulation. Should I use the same weight for the underquilt as I would for a topquilt? Or will I need a bit more or a bit less for the underquilt?","attachment":null,"posted":1715316095},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730468,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728658
>hamaki od pani Basi
:3","attachment":null,"posted":1715350630},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730505,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730179
Anon, I’ve been sewing my own hammocks for a while now. See my latest tarp by scrolling up.
Extra wide hammocks are pointless. Your analogy is retarded. Obviously it has to be wider than12”. Roughly 60” is the sweet spot. Anything beyond that adds very little to a hammocks comfort. I once made one roughly 14’x10’ just for the fuck if it. It was dumb. Wide hammocks just end up with a lot of extra fabric hanging from the sides.","attachment":null,"posted":1715359512},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730508,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730505
Oh you're that retard. The sweet spot you pulled out of your ass is just the width of a standard fabric roll, manufacturers go with that because they can't be bothered sewing multiple panels together. There is a point where width stops making a difference but it's much further than that.
Your tarp looks like shit btw.","attachment":null,"posted":1715360011},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730510,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730508
>sewing multiple panels together
https://ripstopbytheroll.com/collections/xl-wide-fabric
>your tarp bad!
Let me guess: you use something from Amazon?","attachment":null,"posted":1715360256},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730510
Hammock Gear Quest, thanks for asking.","attachment":null,"posted":1715360516},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730513
My DIY tarp is better than yours. Feel bad, consoomer fag.","attachment":null,"posted":1715360754},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730515
Somehow I don't. But feel free to repost your piece of shit unprompted in every hammock thread, maybe someone will compliment it some day.","attachment":null,"posted":1715360866},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730518
It’s lighter, has beaks and extra tie outs, I know exactly what kind of thread was used, and it was seam sealed on both sides of the ridgleline.","attachment":null,"posted":1715361045},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730522,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730521","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715361137414077.jpg","filename":"10201459_0.jpg"},"posted":1715361137},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725462
i got a cheap ass nightcat last year that has all of that, includes poles which you can use to pitch it or just keep the top off you","attachment":null,"posted":1715386023},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730785,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727543
>American prices
Do you think EU prices are typically lower than American prices?","attachment":null,"posted":1715410244},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2730789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730785
Polish prices definitely are. Lesovik are 2-3x more expensive than other manufacturers while not being any better.","attachment":null,"posted":1715412857},{"board":"out","thread":2725462,"pid":2731365,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730789
Can you provide a competitive EU alternative? That's what the thread is about, after all.
I ordered their hammock sleeve. I did think it expensive, but I didn't find any other EU made sleeve in my search.","attachment":null,"posted":1715563307}]}
{"title":"Fishing & Tackle Thread","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725386,"name":"Kevin Van Dam","msg":"#503- “Not A ManAss” Edition
Previous Thread:
>>2721788
janny pls…
Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle
https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N
New Bong Fishin Guide
https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq
First for best telescopic rod is the one you exchanged for a 3pc.
Talk about fishin","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714303786921155.jpg","filename":"B2FCED1E-F2C5-4929-A8FC-586BECDEBA0C.jpg"},"posted":1714303786},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725389,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">respooling a reel
>a used spool of line that you have no idea how much line you got left
>it get just enough line before running out
Is there a better feel????","attachment":null,"posted":1714304221},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725390,"name":"Kevin Van Dam","msg":">>2725389
>it’s underfilled but you convince yourself it’s fine","attachment":null,"posted":1714304387},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725393,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"bootie > boobie","attachment":null,"posted":1714305845},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I sort of asked in the last thread, but are creek chub not a good bait for freezing/cut bait? Somebody suggested rainbow trout which I would do but there's none stocked around me","attachment":null,"posted":1714307263},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725394
trout are essentially baitfish, since most are stocked. no different than a feeder minnow from the bait shop. do not let pretentious trout fishermen convince you otherwise. they would have you believe that a deformed and diseased trout is the ultimate game fish. compare that to the humble creek chub. it can actually survive and doesn't need to be bred like a dog by humans. it doesn't die from being handled for 11 seconds. God created Creek Chub in his image. you never wondered why they call them Creek Chads?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714310990354710.jpg","filename":"1701569588688070.jpg"},"posted":1714310990},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My lure clipped a tall blade of grass when I was power casting my baitcaster. It's over.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714311433260820.png","filename":"1710044205934049.png"},"posted":1714311433},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725381
Yeah fuck rainbows, gay fish.","attachment":null,"posted":1714316622},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725411
>>2725435
I agree, but my area doesn't have any rainbow for me to catch and subsequently kill by looking at funny. I do call them communist fish since they require an insane amount of upkeep to keep populated (maybe I should call them tranny fish instead, kinda works with the rainbow part too). My more available bait is creek chub and I'm thinking just a handful of frozen ones for the year (5-10) since I don't go out that much.","attachment":null,"posted":1714322940},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725393
This is the path to homosexuality.
>start liking butts over boobs
>start liking twink butts
>start liking grown man butts
>congrats you are now gay
The natural state of men is to prefer boobs. Butts are pushed by the media as part of the gay agenda to keep white men from making white children.","attachment":null,"posted":1714325961},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725464
God tier knowledge.","attachment":null,"posted":1714326417},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725453
Yeah calling them tranny fish really suits them. Sometimes they are even blue and pink like that ugly flag. If you can't find them to cull fair enough. I would still look for another trash fish to exterminatus.","attachment":null,"posted":1714326725},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What fish is everyone sleeping on for good eating?
My vote go to longnose gar. It’s basically lobster but nobody wants it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714333749310772.jpg","filename":"IMG_1615.jpg"},"posted":1714333749},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725517,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725501
wtf is that thing, it lives on a river? kek","attachment":null,"posted":1714335577},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725501
Small mouth bass from a clean cold lake. They taste delicious and are healthy to boot.
>b-but muh sport fishing
Don't care.","attachment":null,"posted":1714338848},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725517
Hell yeah, brother. They are living fossils and scientists found out that the fish’s genomes are so static that groups whose last common ancestor lived during the time of the dinosaurs can produce fertile hybrids today.
Probably never needed to evolve because every living thing thought it was inedible.","attachment":null,"posted":1714340233},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725555,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725535
Look if you want to eat smallmouth bass, that’s your decision. Not gonna argue with a man who has bad taste.","attachment":null,"posted":1714342401},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725558,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725546
Every living thing so far...","attachment":null,"posted":1714343905},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725546
My boy Tucker told me evolution is just a theory and cannot be proven with current fossil records.","attachment":null,"posted":1714350169},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725582,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725535
I get dirty looks whenever I keep a bass lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1714350721},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My fly rod is stuck tight in the middle and nothing seems to get it loose, is my only hope maybe casting it until it loosens after a session?","attachment":null,"posted":1714358928},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725657,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I catch smallmouth bass and use it for dog food
Fuck bass fisher"men"","attachment":null,"posted":1714362249},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725657
Do that to largemouth too.","attachment":null,"posted":1714362392},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725660,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725644
In the future when you're setting up the rod try pushing it with a quarter turn when they start to resist. Then do the opposite to get to get it off.
Dunno how to get them unstuck. Good luck.","attachment":null,"posted":1714363264},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725665,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Thinking of carrying a gun. Which one do you guy guys recommend or use ?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714364430547463.jpg","filename":"1714364419583.jpg"},"posted":1714364430},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725665
My 629 takes out smallmouth bass no problem. Got one with a 4" barrel to keep things challenging.","attachment":null,"posted":1714365588},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725668
Well, animals aren't my target. More like a self defense mechanism in case I wander off into the woods and i find a zodiac killer wannabe.","attachment":null,"posted":1714366088},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725671
Then you're in the wrong thread","attachment":null,"posted":1714366174},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725644
I use this technique. it works great.
https://youtu.be/aTXQCYSScJM?si=avy6IahY5ekJ_0Eh
:D","attachment":null,"posted":1714367897},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725788,"name":"Kevin Van Dam","msg":">>2725501
Gar are some strange fish. Watching them snap at topwaters is a trip. They seem kinda dumb though, they will hit a hard bait like 5x before it hooks their thin little mouth.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714388516093300.jpg","filename":"F112EA4E-A9F4-48E1-BDBA-22CF6C78C2A0.jpg"},"posted":1714388516},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725790,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2725665
I carry a glock 17
Go to /k/","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714389618959365.jpg","filename":"20240418_073059.jpg"},"posted":1714389618},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725821,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725665
Glock 43x MOS.","attachment":null,"posted":1714400542},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725841,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725665
Stainless steel .38 is good enough for two legged wildlife and will be less affected by the moisture. Get whatever’s decent in the used gun section of the local fun store.","attachment":null,"posted":1714405369},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725852,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I bought an Okuma Avenger recently to get into catfishing but I fucked it up and got the regular spinning reel instead of the baitfeeder. Will this still work, or will I need the baitfeeder to do it effectively? I was hoping to deadstick the catfish rod and chase dinks nearby while I waited for bites. I opened the package before I realized my mistake so I can't send it back.","attachment":null,"posted":1714407461},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725859,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725852
Myself and most use a reels without feeders, you’ll be fine. Leave your drag a little looser and use a sturdy rod spike","attachment":null,"posted":1714408950},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725867,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725665
when i did all nighters at the city pier i carried a glock 42","attachment":null,"posted":1714410789},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's raining all day today and clearing up tonight. I want to collect some worms for fishing tomorrow, but I've never gotten them anywhere besides the store. any tips on the best way to do it? I heard they surface at night, especially after rain, so I was planning on going into the backyard with a headlamp. I don't know if this is a stupid question but I'd appreciate any advice.","attachment":null,"posted":1714416162},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725901,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725852
Bait runners are awesome but you don't need them desperately. You can either back off your drag and just carefully tighten back up when you're hooked up or leave your bail open with a clip of some kind to give a bite indication. I always put my rod into the holder and physically walk out to grab the line and test what a running fish will do. I like a drag light enough to put a bit of bend in the rod while puting almost no stress on the rod holder. It adds a bit of complication but it's far from unmanageable.","attachment":null,"posted":1714416495},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725904,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725895
After rain right after the sun goes down, walk slowly and gently and don't point the light right at them. You will be surprised how fast and strong they are. Pull gently it's very easy to rip them in half while they hole themselves in their hole but they Tire out after a few seconds and let go","attachment":null,"posted":1714416581},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725941,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What is y'alls go to for foraging bait when you're already out by the water? When I go out I usually carry a smallish sling bag with me. I'll usually have some lures and artificials, but I prefer live bait. What's your first pick on collecting live bait when you're already out? And if you use tools to do it, I'd preferably like something compact enough to fit in my bag.","attachment":null,"posted":1714425016},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725947,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725941
i chum and use a cast net for for fin bait.
or i use sabikis on a float baited w shrimp","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714425853466464.jpg","filename":"IMaAG_01.jpg"},"posted":1714425853},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725951,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725941
Maybe one of those plastic food container. That's what I usually for sandcrab and that's the only thing I really forage when I go fishing on foot
For my kayak, I have a live well for Bair fish. However, for shore fishing, a bucket for bait fish is too much for me to haul around","attachment":null,"posted":1714427180},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725967,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725535
>muh sport fishing
Thankfully not a worry where I'm from, smallies are fucking invasive in the lake I'm going to be fishing tomorrow.","attachment":null,"posted":1714430417},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725968,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"does anyone have any recommendations for cheapish flies? I'm getting back into fly fishing after like 8 years and idk what flies are good or not","attachment":null,"posted":1714430558},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725970,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725968
Where/What are you fishing for?","attachment":null,"posted":1714431181},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725971,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Regarding gar, my therapist and his son ate one a year ago. His son likes to eat what they catch, and his son, of course wanted to eat the gar he caught. My therapist tried discouraging him, but his brief online research suggested that it tastes like lobster. They grilled it, abs it did not taste like lobster. My therapist had a small bite which he spat out and then wiped his tongue off with a napkin. His son ate a whole bite but nothing more. They both said it was the worst thing they ever tasted and that it had the consistency of rubber. My therapist wasn't too specific on the taste, preferring more fanciful descriptions such as, "It tasted like ass. It tasted like ass with a sweaty sock in it." My therapist and his son will eat everything: largemouth, catfish, wipers, bluegill, etc. They love them all, but they will never again eat gar.","attachment":null,"posted":1714431303},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725972,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"my favorite species of gar is the nick gar","attachment":null,"posted":1714431433},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725973,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725852
You can use it just fine. In the future, I recommend the KastKing Sharky, which is the same price but better. I compared them side-by-side.","attachment":null,"posted":1714431463},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725974,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is casting effectively in tiny headwater streams for brook trout possible with a 9ft fly rod?
I have an Orvis Encounter 5wt but I’m unsure if I’d need something like a tenkara rod to catch small fry’s.","attachment":null,"posted":1714432333},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725984,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725970
>https://pastebin.com/sDB5SQTq
trout mostly, other river fish as well","attachment":null,"posted":1714434342},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725985,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725984
idk why i pasted the guide in here","attachment":null,"posted":1714434476},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2725986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725970
also new england","attachment":null,"posted":1714434625},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726006,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2725985
>>2725986
>>2725968
I'd reccomend either having me tie you some or looking at reds flies.","attachment":null,"posted":1714436985},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Any skup fishers?","attachment":null,"posted":1714440563},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726006
you should tie a fly thats shaped like a big penis, that way i can assert dominance over the fish by tricking them into sucking a dick","attachment":null,"posted":1714441686},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726059,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2726032
I could probably make something happen if I got good at deer hair stuff
Bass would 100% munch it","attachment":null,"posted":1714443096},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726069,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725678
Holy hell it worked, but lord were they fucking tight. Even with tape, had to put on gloves to get a grip that could actually move it. Thanks for linking that anon, saved the skin on my hands.
>>2725660
I used to do that but got lazy over time. Honestly thought I'd worn my rod enough since it hasn't happened in a while.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714443611996447.jpg","filename":"32964981987198.jpg"},"posted":1714443611},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726092,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726059
kek. i don't actually fly fish and was just making a joke, but you should do it anyway and then post pictures of the faggot fish you catch with it here","attachment":null,"posted":1714450561},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726099,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What is the single most important piece of kit you can bring that isn't related to not dying or the actual catching of fish? Obviously rod, reel, bait/lures, and drinking water are essential for even having a trip, but what is the most important thing to make your trip more comfy/enjoyable?","attachment":null,"posted":1714452073},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726106,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726099
Knife or scissors are pretty important to carry.
I also carry sunscreen and bug spray as well as a pair of hemostats but they aren't essential.","attachment":null,"posted":1714454389},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726108,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726099
Gloves have come in handy a few times, or any not too thin rag to cover your hands if pulling on a bad snag with thin line that just wont break or pulling out tangles from pokey brush, or even dug in tangle piles from litterers.","attachment":null,"posted":1714455240},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726113,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726099
>flashlight
>bogagrip
>measuring board
>water shoes (if shore fishing)
>buff UPF rated facemask
>UPF rated sun hoody shirt
>UPF rated pants
No particular order. UPF clothing really is a lifesaver as a desert fisherman. I don't have to reapply sunscreen so much and with the buff + hoody + hat + sunglasses = makes my entire head protected.
And since my sun hoody is a thin material polyester, if I'm really hurting in the heat, I can just throw the entire shirt in the water and put it on. That's saved my ass a couple times doing my idiotic 8-12 mile shore fishing journeys.
Btw I hiked 12 miles today and didn't catch shit. Terrible day.","attachment":null,"posted":1714455988},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725967
how you cook smallies?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714457298515563.jpg","filename":"9874555.jpg"},"posted":1714457298},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726124
man at least put them on ice","attachment":null,"posted":1714459965},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726272,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"are berkley choppos any good or should i stick to the whopper plopper? or are all ploppers a meme","attachment":null,"posted":1714494378},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726275,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Any AZfags ever shorefish at Bartlett? I wanna give it a try, curious what is successful there.","attachment":null,"posted":1714494690},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726124
Those are largemouth. Filet and fry, or batter and deep fry. You better do something with them. Killed that big pregnant female.","attachment":null,"posted":1714501554},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725386
I don't even fish but at least once a month I get lured into this general because of the OP pics. The coom brain just gets snagged by the bait.
Keep it up you beautiful bastards.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714506237046153.jpg","filename":"8D0CDD9CE8A04BA38327A7157A615C0C.jpg"},"posted":1714506237},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726352
>that time they tried it with a dude","attachment":null,"posted":1714513958},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726352
I want the next one to be a fat hairy man now.","attachment":null,"posted":1714520150},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726447,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726069
You can stick them in the freezer for a few minutes too, if you have a chest freezer. I have to do it sometimes in the fall if it gets hot outside.","attachment":null,"posted":1714522827},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726272
The Googan Revolver is no bueno. The Choppo seems to be okay by all accounts. I'd try it out.","attachment":null,"posted":1714524667},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725386
My drum from 2 years ago is bigger","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714528974062599.jpg","filename":"20220812_000222.jpg"},"posted":1714528974},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726558,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Should my line be tight when fishing or lax?
Should I try to set when I feel the line being pulled or when I THINK the fish has it in its mouth? Because I feel nibbles 95% of the time
Do lures work in murky water? Because I've had no luck","attachment":null,"posted":1714545070},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726566,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726558
line should be tight as slack line makes bite detection bad and allows fish to swallow something before you can even react. setting the hook depends on the presentation. if you wait too long a fish can swallow it, but too soon and you can often pull it from them. yes, most lures work in murky water.","attachment":null,"posted":1714551785},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726667,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2726558
>Should my line be tight when fishing or lax
Situational
>Should I try to set when I feel the line being pulled or when I THINK the fish has it in its mouth? Because I feel nibbles 95% of the time
Also situational, sometimes I hook fish on instinct but usually I like to know the fish is there first. Sometimes a nibble is a take, and hook sets tend to be free.
>Do lures work in murky water
Yes
Generally lures that make noise and or move water are generally better in murky water. Spoons, spinners, poppers, crankbaits, chatterbaits, and similar are good places to start. I got 20+ crappies on curly tail jigs in water with less than 18 inches of visibility yesterday. Would post pics but my phone was dead.","attachment":null,"posted":1714575254},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is there any reason why I shouldn't use many elastech for any soft plastic lure???
That shit just last forever","attachment":null,"posted":1714585435},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726754,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725841
NTA and probably not the right board but I've been debating a 38 or 357 since I could always load 38 in 357, but I don't want to spend the extra $3-400 right now","attachment":null,"posted":1714591914},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726756,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726754
I'll make it somewhat related and ask:
What's the scariest situation you've gotten into while fishing?","attachment":null,"posted":1714592215},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726756
Here are the scary moments I have encountered: the many times I've almost fallen in and getting close to living animals. The creepiest situation is when I got out of the water at dark. This was in an urban creek that I might be able to wade today. There were some people herding cats, a bunch of them. The guy had a weird look to him too. None of these situations were violent. Bearing arms is a good thing. However, it may not be necessary in your situation.","attachment":null,"posted":1714593044},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726796,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724957
Going back to this discussion since I thought of something else, but I'm also a bigger fan of places where there aren't boats (which tends to be rivers/streams or large ponds) since the forward facing faggot club can't googan squad their $180k financed boat onto every possible spot a bass could be","attachment":null,"posted":1714596676},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I was given a 7’1 medium fast Croix victory for free today, it’s like brand new…
It is the lightest, softest tip rod I’ve held let alone owned (also most expensive)
What applications would this rod be best suited for, for bass fishing?
I was thinking smaller swim baits?
Like 2.7” - 3.25”
I want it to be a technique specific rod, as much as possible.","attachment":null,"posted":1714597702},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726824,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2726754
Get .357, its worth it. Just know that after shooting .38 you may have to clean the cylinders before .357 will fit because the throat can get fouled with powder residue from the shorter cases.
>>2726756
My buddy and I were fishing and got charged by a buck. He was on us faster than I could get my pistol. Luckily he stopped just short (less than 10 feet) and trotted off.
>>2726810
Finesse stuff; tiny swimbaits, small weightless soft plastics, dropshots, etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1714601896},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I caught a bunch of panfish on the fly rod in the creek again. It was a good time. I got a little wind knot in my tippet. Do I have to replace the tippet?","attachment":null,"posted":1714615949},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726888,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726874
Just above where the wind knot is. If it's a lot of tippet gone, liking reaching the start of the taper, consider buying some tippet rings. Pack is like 10 bucks but it'll keep the leader intact and it's better than more premade leaders unless you really need another. Just tie new tippet to the tippet ring from then on.","attachment":null,"posted":1714621390},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726897,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'd like to ask the author exactly why these 'wild' trout are so big .... is it just the wonder and excitement of NZ ... do they have better food ? .... are they mystic ?.... nope. They are stocked and fed every day .... please please please come up with a natural reason for multiple large fish in a relatively small body of water with a natural food supply... go on ... whoever is in charge ... please provide some explanation for you're blatant lies about your country's small rivers.(they choose small rivers 'cause they're easier to maintain a head of fish ... and it's easier for the idiots that part with 2-3k to travel to catch a big lab pet livestock trout) Someone should investigate NZ's 'wild' claims. I'm pretty sure 'wild' is misleading at best and downright fraudulant otherwise.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714624114821929.png","filename":"nztrout.png"},"posted":1714624114},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2726904,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Carp fly presentations, give me some recommendations. I have a 5 weight and lately when swimbait fishing I've been seeing 5 to 10 pound carp busting on the surface for the past 2 weeks in this same spot that I can easily cast a fly line towards, would love to see how these things fight on the fly.
Past 10 times I've gone fishing I keep forgetting my fly rod. I need to fucking stop that. Want to swimbait + fly fish at the same time now.","attachment":null,"posted":1714628511},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726874
I forgot to add that when I was walking out, I scared a woman. I was coming out of a tunnel near student housing. This young woman in neon was running towards me. I was wearing a school cap and waders, and I was carrying my rod and a ski pole which serves as a wading staff. I wasn't dragging the ski pole like a horror movie villain, but once she saw me, she ran the opposite direction. Based on her direction and proximity to the student housing, I am very confident my presence is the reason she turned around. It was also getting dark, but still, it was kind of fun. This must be what it's like to be a black man.","attachment":null,"posted":1714663387},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727207,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2726904
>carp busting on the surface
Those fish are probably not catchable in that state. Carp do just jump out of the water for the sake of it sometimes, but unless you can find them actively feeding you're probably not going to catch it with a fly rod.
With your expectations properly tempered, carp flies vary wildly. My personal favorite is a creation of my own I call the backwards bug, it's basically a small foxy clouser with rubber legs (ice tied up to a size 4 and down to a size 10)
Other options include soft hackles and nymphs with bead chain or dumbell eyes to ride hook point up, cottonwood seeds, I've had them rise for terrestrial patterns, people tie mulberry flies and crawdad flies. Bonefish flies can work. Worms, rabbit strip things, It's hard for me to reccomend patterns other than the ones I tie because I kinda just go off and do my own thing.
>pic semi related, a heavy daddy bugger
I tied that one for smallies but any carp that would eat a crawdad would absolutely munch this fly.
>>2726874
You definsteky need to cut and re tie something. If it's a small wind knot, cut either side of the knot off close and toe the sections back together. If it's just in the tippett it's easy enough to cut and re tie
>>2726888
Tippett rings are gay as hell
They do what they say they do, sure, but they're so gay. A loop to loop connection does nigh the same thing and once it seats it's way sleeker, I actually change musky flies that way. Theres a foot of wire tied to all of my flies and I use a loop to loop on 40lb mono to change flies.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714685649560223.jpg","filename":"20220704_173458.jpg"},"posted":1714685649},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727215,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725386
Basic west coast surf/rocks fishing setup? Right now I'm looking at a 9" salmon/steelhead rod (for things in the surf like perch and stripers. Also steelhead and salmon when the season opens again) and 7" medium heavy rod (would use for rockfish, lingcod, maybe halibut, it seemed to be the popular choice of rod at the local pier).
Also line and reel size combination recommendations would be appreciated","attachment":null,"posted":1714687600},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727217,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My university is next to and owns a portion of forest with a nice size lake in it. I've been wanting to fish it just to see what's in it but campus is closed because of protests and university pd are anal about it. Thinking of going to fish it anyway. There should be at least trout","attachment":null,"posted":1714688100},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I saw some huge carp last fall, but they always hold right under a low head dam. Any tips for targeting carp in fast current?","attachment":null,"posted":1714699828},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727433,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Finally ordered my first rod. Excited.","attachment":null,"posted":1714742446},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727433
Congrats, Anon! What did you get?","attachment":null,"posted":1714745872},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727468,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727449
Thanks brother. I got this right here. >>2724561
Gonna pick up some Powerbait and some trout lures. I'm in the east coast, do I wanna get lures on the smaller side or the bigger side?","attachment":null,"posted":1714748557},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727485,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727468
>I'm in the east coast
you should be throwing cut bait into the surf, freshwater fishing is for girl scouts","attachment":null,"posted":1714749489},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727468
I'm a phone fag and had a little trouble finding the post. For everyone else, it's a Daiwa Presso 4 piece 6'6" UL. I bought the same thing but am still waiting on it. Daiwa's containers have not made it to the US anywhere close to on-time.","attachment":null,"posted":1714751344},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727501
Yeah I ordered mine from a popular airsoft site from all places","attachment":null,"posted":1714751768},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727510,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727215
9’ light or medium light rod with a lure rating somewhere around 1oz at the top, but light enough it can throw about 2/3oz for LC110s. Phenix Trifecta Lite and Okuma Rockaway are pretty popular. I got a Daiwa Saltist Westcost 902 medium light paired with a Fuego 3000 that I really enjoy for surf fishing. 20-30lb braided mainline, your leader can be anywhere from 6-12lb.","attachment":null,"posted":1714754145},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">trying to figure out saltwater kit
>hmm maybe i should try that /out/ thread with the titties
>first post I read is shitting on trout faggots
I've come to the right place","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714755112670665.jpg","filename":"deep-sea-dolphin-catch-clean-cook-mahi-mahi-dorado-stuart-v0-GObYXATQITvqSeF_9xQpo4JvnObEablT1zbjRT77lXs.jpg"},"posted":1714755112},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727537,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2727515
depending on specifics you'll probably want an 8 or 10 weight, and youll probably wind up with a floating or intermediate line. what salt water do you plan on fishing?","attachment":null,"posted":1714763110},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727554,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727468
small lures. 1/8oz is a good weight for lures when it comes to that rod.","attachment":null,"posted":1714765746},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727556,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727554
Thanks brother","attachment":null,"posted":1714765942},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727558,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"someone please explain to me how bass tournaments are fun. I fish for bass often, so I'm not a bass hater, it's just that the tournments seem really fucking dumb. 99% of the time they don't even catch a fish over 3lbs. obviously the point is to have the most combined weight on a fish limit, but I'm not seeing how catching dozens of fish and keeping 5 2pounders is considered fun when you can literally just leisure fish and do the same thing. and no... it's not about the money either, because all these local small tournaments have like a $250 prize which most of the time won't even pay for the gas you burned.","attachment":null,"posted":1714766094},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727559,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727558
I imagine it's for the competitive aspect of it","attachment":null,"posted":1714766161},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727597,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is Tenkera fly fishing Based or Cringe?","attachment":null,"posted":1714773194},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727597
Fly fishing is cringe. Yes","attachment":null,"posted":1714773521},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727599,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2727597
yes
>>2727598
so is using 4chan","attachment":null,"posted":1714773679},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727601,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727599
Ok, and being a namefag is a greater evil than both.","attachment":null,"posted":1714774027},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727602,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727537
>10 weight
No clue what that means.
I just got an inshore boat for mid-Atlantic targeting anything big worth eating. Figure that means jigging and trolling as well as casting on structure and oyster beds. I've got 4000 and 8000 series spinning rods. I've been reading up on 50 series conventional reels wondering if they're more durable and something I can grow into as I gain experience and eventually buy a proper offshore cc.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714774341676932.jpg","filename":"maxresdefault-3.jpg"},"posted":1714774341},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727597
based
>>2727601
based","attachment":null,"posted":1714799207},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727697,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Fish noob here.
When buying split shots and weights for fishing, are lead weights still in wide use, do I have to specifically ask for non-lead weights? Are they clearly marked as such on the package?","attachment":null,"posted":1714802968},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727697
Lead weights are generally considered acceptable. Where do you live?","attachment":null,"posted":1714804140},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727701,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Any Florida bros with experience on the west coast can recommend some bait and tips? I've tried worms and shrimp and all I get is pinfish which I've also used as bait and all they get is other pinfish. I've also caught some puffers like twice. No luck with bigger fish even though they jump over the water while I'm actively throwing.
I've tried that Gulp spray on some lures but even less luck.","attachment":null,"posted":1714804639},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727697
They are labeled normally. I go with tin reusable splitshot or titanium dropshot.","attachment":null,"posted":1714808284},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727215
Check out the Okuma SST rods, I use it on the rocks to target rockfish, Lings, and cabs. I have the SST-C-902 Ha model, it’s 9’ , and rated for 1oz to 6oz, it feels really light and it’s strong enough to bring up keeper Cabezon up cliffs. I have set up paired with a Daiwa Lexa 300 with 40lb braid, if you don’t use a baitcaster I’m sure they have a spinning version. If you’re looking for a cheaper SST rod check out the Daiwa North Coast line. If your looking for a spinning set up for rockfishing I recommend the Offshore Angler Power Stick, you can get them at the bass pro website, the one I have is the PSTS912202 9’ Medium, I have this one paired with a Daiwa BG 4000 with 40lb braid. I like this set up more for rockfishing, the rod does not feel as sensitive as the Okuma SST but it feels more durable, and the spinning reel casts and handles the wind much better. With both setups I mostly throw soft plastics, I do a weedless Texas right with a 1oz egg sinker and 3-0 EWG hook and paddle that’s either 3.5” or 4”, or some sort of 5” curly tail grub. With the Power Stick I will also sometimes throw squid on a high-low rig with a 3oz river sinker","attachment":null,"posted":1714808473},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Go fishing with a friend near a dam at 5 in the morning
>catch several brown trout with a spincaster with 10 lb line while hes skunked with a baitcaster and 30 lb braded line
>friend eventually babyrages and decides to cut our fishing trip short
>He says we need to find a new spot because he couldnt catch anything
>decide to come back several hours later to catch even more fish with my "inferior rod" to prove him wrong
>burn $35+ losing the exact same spinners, jerk bait, weights and line I lost in the morning
Of course I plan to go back there eventually with waiters to get my shit back but its fucking stupid how the same shit I used to absolutely mog my friend's skunked morning is completely useless after several hours and a few inches of a tide difference.
I plan to fish near richmond next week and I need rigs and tips for fishing at a high current freshwater area in the northeast. I have a Lews 7'0, medium-heavy power, fast action rod that supports 8-17lb of line and 3/16 to 3/4 oz lure. I dont mind saving for a better rod/equipment to catch some steelhead or stocked salmon.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714809079814502.jpg","filename":"ALEWIFE.jpg"},"posted":1714809079},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727713,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727712
I also understand that it's way to early in the season to try it but it doesn't hurt to practice and scout for places up and down vermont","attachment":null,"posted":1714809230},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727215
I would something like an 8 ft rod. 9 ft is too cumbersome imo for light tackle surf fishing in the west coast. The extra distance is barely noticeable for the extra top heavy weight
I use an 8 ft MH teramar inshore rated from 1/2 - 1.5 oz(southeast model specifically) for surf fishing and shore fishing. It's slightly heavy for the surf bit it still cast LC110 perfectly. However it is more flexible because it can fishing the jetty better with the extra power as I have to flip fishes up the jetty and pull fishes away from rock/structure as well as using heavier lures when the current is really moving hard. If you mostly fish surf then a M model (rate up to 1 oz) might feel better.
As the other anon said, trifecta lite is a very popular option. Daiwa saltist west coast surf seem to be very good option as well if you want something a bit cheaper.
Imo, pier fishing is pretty shit in California. You don't really expect big game fish like Hali because the pier are overfished as fuck so you mostly get mackerel and sometimes shark and rays. Therefore, for pier, you either just go with your surf tackle fishing for mackerel and maybe Bonito or go full heavy tackle for shark fishing if that is what you want to do","attachment":null,"posted":1714809687},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727716,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727715
Also, this is specifically for my need and the place I fish. I don't need to cast far for the beach I fish because the structure is well within a short casting distance. Also, for the jetty, the longer rod can be a benefit as well. It help you reach out further to clear the rock but it can also hinder clearance when casting and make transversing the jetty slightly more difficult. I never fish for stripers and rockfish for shore as I am in so cal so make decision based on the spot you fish in your local area","attachment":null,"posted":1714810526},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727717,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727712
wonder if maybe he got skunked because his line was too big and too visible. 30lb braid seems like a retarded level of overkill for trout or most freshwater fish.","attachment":null,"posted":1714811107},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727717
Nah bro you don't understand, to quote him the line is "engineered to function like mino because it's thinner than the typical stuff but I won't pack extra line anyways because you should lmao my baitcaster is more than enough even though I don't know how to cast with it"
Anyways I'm looking for advice on fast current semi deep freshwater. There's not a lot of options in my area outside of lake Champlain.","attachment":null,"posted":1714812224},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727721
unfortunately I don't know enough about gear (other than knowing you should probably try to use the thinnest, least visible line that you can get away with lol) to offer any advice, sorry anon.
I'm sure you'll get an answer soon though, people in these threads are very helpful in my experience.","attachment":null,"posted":1714812516},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727736,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727602
8 or 10 weight is referring to fly fishing line weights, so probably not what you're looking for since you mentioned spinning reels","attachment":null,"posted":1714819759},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727741,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727717
unless you're targeting large river fish (e.g. catfish) with bait, I'd agree 30# braid is overkill. I like 10# braid since it's thinner and longer lasting than any other type of line at that strength so further casts, more line on spool, less re-spooling, few line twists/problems, etc but not overkill for most situations. Also if the visibility is a concern, just tie a leader.
>>2727712
>>2727713
I'm not sure if you buy into this stuff at all (I'm not even sure I buy into it yet) but there's websites/apps that have the times when fish are most likely to bite based on lunar and solunar patterns. I know FishAngler has it (better free version of fish finder). But even ignoring that, I think there are just times when they're feeding on anything and everything and times when they want something specific, which sucks. For scouting a new spot, I'd maybe suggest live bait of some kind, like worms, since it's a universal, natural food for freshwater fish. If nothing bites a worm on a hook, in my opinion, that spot isn't worth much","attachment":null,"posted":1714821146},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727743,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727717
>>2727721
Baitcaster with braid simply isn't really the gear for trout. It is good for bass or bigger game fish that go after bigger/heavier lure. Trout fishing usually involves smaller/lighter lures or bait","attachment":null,"posted":1714821251},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727748,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Any tips on targeting carp in the backwaters of rivers? I'm thinking some bait (bread or power bait) on a small hook sitting on the bottom with my reel bail open. I can see the carp swimming around and I think eating (doing that thing with their mouth) but I've never caught one and don't know the simplest way to target them","attachment":null,"posted":1714822472},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's over","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714833820319465.jpg","filename":"1712037489653.jpg"},"posted":1714833820},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727699
California, but it's not the legality I'm worried about. It's the environmental impact it could have.
>>2727707
I'll look for those. Thank you.","attachment":null,"posted":1714834228},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727807
How do you even tie lead weights to your line?","attachment":null,"posted":1714834626},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727812,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727810
They have little eyelets you're supposed to string the line though and secure in place with a knot.","attachment":null,"posted":1714834718},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727812
I have split shots, I do not see any eyelets just triangular divots.","attachment":null,"posted":1714834870},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727814,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727741
Yeah I think he got that from some fishing yt channel and didn't consider that fish have eyes and can see shit. Mostly just clowning on him since he's kind of a smart ass in post topics despite being a complete stoner everywhere we go.
As for the apps I can't really rely on it since they only focus on popular spots and tourist traps (like the salmon hole in winooski) and I hardly get any cell service outside of my county.
This specific place I plan on going to is infamous for killing some teenagers a few years ago due to the high current and choppy waters so no one swims there. I'm thinking I could probably get away with catching something, but I've never had any experience with this kind of fishing outside of dams and weirs, and I don't want to find some video of an angler with a complete different situation tell me what to do.
Picrel is one of the two brown trout I caught that morning, are these kind of fish expected in deep, high current conditions? And could I find steelheads and salmon there or do I need to reconsider this upcoming trip?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714834979429198.jpg","filename":"20240504_104122.jpg"},"posted":1714834979},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727824,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727813
The weights I've see are little balls with an attached eyelet. Like one of those kettlebells weightlifters use, but much much smaller.","attachment":null,"posted":1714837405},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727825,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727813
Yeah, split shots just crimp over the line. I've been trying to reduce the amount of lead tackle I use too, because I don't like the idea of buying something that coats neighborhoods in lead vapors during manufacture (if you live near the Water Gremlin Foundry, you know), and they did find a loon with lead poisoning and a gizzard full of dropshot weights on a lake near me (even if the lead was probably ingested in the wintering grounds in Louisiana instead of Minnesota), but the split shot alternatives kind of suck, because most of the cheap heavy metals are not anywhere near as maleable as lead. They do sell tin split shot, but you basically need to crimp them with pliers instead of with your fingers, and they're also bigger for a given weight and very shiny. When I use the tin splitshot, I find that I get way more panfish strikes against the splitshot than I do when I've got lead on.
What I've ended up doing for my ice fishing combos is using black painted tungsten beads above the swivel, and I'm using black painted brass Carolina rigging to replace the splitshot presentation on my panfish poles, but that isn't nearly as convenient as splitshot for where you might want to change the weight for presentation reasons or switch to a jig or switch to a spoon or whatever, so I recognize that for a bank fisher or guy in a kayak who probably doesn't have 4+ rods in the boat, it's not viable yet.
What I don't get is why no one hasn't made a lead free version of the old rubber-core style sinkers. I know that the rubber rots in just a couple years rendering them useless and I hated them when I was a kid using whatever old garbage tackle I could garage sale, but it seems like these could fix the convenience issue of non-lead splitshot alternatives, because you don't need to crimp them or use bobber stops or whatever.","attachment":null,"posted":1714837864},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727826,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727825
forgot picture.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714837925994728.jpg","filename":"eagle-claw-rubber-core-sinker-lead-assorted-1549321-1.jpg"},"posted":1714837925},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727831,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727708
Thank you so much! I will definitely look into the Daiwa North Coast and will try out those rigs the next time I'm out","attachment":null,"posted":1714838695},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727814
>Yeah I think he got that from some fishing yt channel
Thats where I got the 30lb braid idea for my medium heavy rod for river and stream fishing.we must have watched the same shill","attachment":null,"posted":1714840119},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727860,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727715
>>2727716
Thank you. So from what I'm getting, a 8" to 9" medium heavy rod is a good all around rod for surf and rocks?
I have half of a Lamiglas 9" MH salmon/steelhead float + drift rod rated up to 1oz. Once I can get the other half, would this fitting for all around or just surf?
>I am in so cal so make decision based on the spot you fish in your local area
I am in nor cal, so the pier fishing is decent in the the bay area and almost good in the north coast where I am for most of the year (seen a guy pull up a keeper ling two weeks ago)","attachment":null,"posted":1714840814},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727879,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727860
Just from my experience.
Fishes like rock fishes and Ling cod take a long time to grow and usually stay around the same rocky area so they have little chance to exist around fishing pier where it is easily accessible and heavily fished and harvested, especially without needing a fishing license. Maybe the pier in your area is different.
Lamiglass rod is not really my preference because it is a glass rod and not quite that versatile for lure fishing due to lack of sensitivity, especially in the surf where you have to deal with he churning surf or rock fishing where you want to quickly feel the bite and get fishes out of of structure quickly. If you already have one on hand then just use it to get started","attachment":null,"posted":1714843511},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727887,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725665
I've always carried a Ruger Sp101 snubby. It's small enough to carry any time, it's heavy enough to be used as a club, it's solid steel that is very corrosion resistant around saltwater, and .357 is a good enough handgun caliber to deal with the majority of aminals.","attachment":null,"posted":1714844560},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727712
Unrelated, but do I need to add any weights or powerbait for a better chance to catch something? I don't know if it's not sinking deep enough or if its too big for the fish in my area.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714847873844417.jpg","filename":"Head-Hunter-Suspending-Jerkbait-Head-Hunter-104935122.jpg"},"posted":1714847873},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727860
If you’re in the Bay Area and get the chance take a day trip to the Fort Ross/Salt Point area, there is a lot of great rockfishing around there, or anywhere north of Jenner. Also I recommend checking out the fish legal app so you don’t accidentally fish a Marine Protected Area.","attachment":null,"posted":1714850727},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727939,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Real seggs","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714852269214545.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240504-113011_Gallery.jpg"},"posted":1714852269},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2727993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727939
what's the point of having two reel handles?","attachment":null,"posted":1714860134},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728002,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727825
The problem with tungsten, hopefully the questioner sees this, is that it is even worse for the environment, supposedly. I'm not well-versed in this subject. In Spain, they use chunks of concrete or rocks instead of lead. Using lead in fishing is inescapable in certain types of fishing. If you want to avoid lead, avoid those styles. I use lead. There is this one Irish guy who travels to Norway for halibut. He has this rig that makes it really easy for the lead to fall off while fighting the fish. That's distasteful in my opinion. Although, we are talking about the ocean, so I shouldn't care.","attachment":null,"posted":1714861400},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"First bass of the season (canada)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714868177422939.jpg","filename":"20240504_193441.jpg"},"posted":1714868177},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727701
Bump","attachment":null,"posted":1714868590},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727814
>for the apps I can't really rely on it since they only focus on popular spots and tourist traps
I was referring to the "fishing forecast" (based on solunar and lunar phases) rather than the user submitted spots. Pic related is available on fish angler. I've started paying a little more attention to it the past few times and have noticed a difference in bites during and not during the "good periods", but it could be total coincidence too","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714868886028534.jpg","filename":"1694502746501.jpg"},"posted":1714868886},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">upper half of rod breaks
>there are no replacements anywhere
its over","attachment":null,"posted":1714870528},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728116,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728104
>>2727805
This was me and my current solution was:
>file down the ends of the pieces where it broke off
>find a nail/rod/something sturdy that fits snugly in the hole
>super glue the holes and insert nail at least an inch into each side
>attach them
>tie braided line to the rod and wrap it around where they join a bunch of times
>tie off the braid and trim excess
>cover the braid wrap in super glue
my rod broke near the tip so I probably could have just shortened it and re-attached a different tip, but I think my method could be applied to any location on the rod","attachment":null,"posted":1714872195},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728144,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728077
Sir that fish was caught out of season. It is a criminal offence to post fish caught out of season online. Fine and license suspension incoming.","attachment":null,"posted":1714875090},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728145,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728104
Just get a new rod anon. The rod will never feel the same if you somehow fix it","attachment":null,"posted":1714875092},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728153,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728144
I was pike fishing
Let it go as soon as I took the photo","attachment":null,"posted":1714878012},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728155,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Love me white spinner
good day? toss the spinner and make it better
bad day? toss the spinner and finally land some fish
Never fails to let me explore a lake and also land some quality fish","attachment":null,"posted":1714878134},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Got to test out my Daiwa double clutch today. The salmon trout and bream absolutely fucking love it, lads. I'm a believer now.","attachment":null,"posted":1714903777},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728259,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728085
> believing this horoscope-tier shit","attachment":null,"posted":1714912280},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728273,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727907
Suspending jerkbaits are tuned to be fished at a specific depth when you retrieve it, no weight necessary. It also mimics a baitfish so there’s no need to add powerbait.","attachment":null,"posted":1714915950},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728321,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Do sites generally have sales before bass opening in late June (Ontario)
Or will US sites have sales before whenever the US season opens?
Want a new reel, looking at the new Tatula mq lt but don’t really want to spend 270 leaf bucks on it, I’d be willing to spend 200 if a sale arises","attachment":null,"posted":1714921659},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I wanna go fishing tomorrow
gonna ride my motorbike a few km up the beach and go fishing and drink som beers","attachment":null,"posted":1714923027},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728321
Those big brand reels rarely go on sale. Even during sale period, stores sometimes exclude those brands as well. Usually, they only go on big sale if they release a new model of a series.
American store mostly goes on sale in holiday such as 4th of July, labor day, black friday.","attachment":null,"posted":1714930336},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728439,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone here crab snare? Whats your setup?
Mine is some cheap 7" heavy trolling rod and an old but reliable Ryobi Catcher 4m with 40lb mono. Looking at a Master Power 6000 12' rod on sale for $30 to upgrade for better casting distance for the beach since the piers in my area only give undersized Dungeness and maybe a keeper red rock croc","attachment":null,"posted":1714936946},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728327
no invite? sounds fun :D","attachment":null,"posted":1714968861},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728646,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728439
I used the Okuma Crab Snare Special rod and a Quantum Reliance 65 reel with 50lb braid, the set up served me well this season, it’s casts 6oz to 10oz really well and I even casted 12oz with it. I also had a Daiwa BG 5000 and a 12’ Daiwa Beef Stick rod and I ended up liking the Okuma/Quantum set up more. What snares are you using?","attachment":null,"posted":1714971622},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728817,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728321
Peterborough Pro Tackle usually has a spring sale that includes rods and reels, you may have missed it already. Pretty sure Cabela's has tatulas on sale regularly.","attachment":null,"posted":1715009765},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728870,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728646
use regular tackle shop-bought snares. I have the cube and rectangle cages. However, I like to change the loops so they stand up rather than flop to the ground","attachment":null,"posted":1715017929},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728887,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"do bass see braid color","attachment":null,"posted":1715020779},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728920,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725665
1911
I think I want to move up to a .45, I want to put 'em down in one round","attachment":null,"posted":1715026065},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728952,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2728920
>I want to put 'em down in one round
Read up on FBI gunfight statistics, all the way up to 12 gauge the statistics are that one round doesnt stop a fight so even if you found a way to EDC a shockwave with slugs youd still want to train double taps. I like m yh glock 17 because I can bill drill 3 guys before I have to reload, or i can Mozambique 6 guys
>>2728887
Yes but unless the fish are super high pressure in super clear water it really doesnt matter, and even then it doesnt matter as much as you think it does.
>>2728327
How'd it go?
>>2728259
Muskie catch rates go up o 5% on a full moon and fish absolutely respond to barometric pressure.
>>2728239
Hella
>>2727748
Carp are easy. Go to walmart, buy a can of great value corn, go to the fishing section, find split shot and a pack of #4 or #6 bait holder hooks, then go to the river.
Grab a fist full of corn and throw it in the water (assuming it's legal in your area, some places prohibit chumming) and while that's soaking tie on your bait holder hook and affix a split shot 18 inches up from there. Thread corn on kernel by kernel until you've covered the entire hook, I like to put so many it's starting to get on the line too. Gently lob it in to the corn field and wait.","attachment":null,"posted":1715029102},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2728970,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728952
>Carp are easy.
this is the general method I've seen and I already have all the supplies for it. any duration of time you'd say is good to give a spot before trying somewhere else? 20 minutes?","attachment":null,"posted":1715032933},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729008,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2728970
20 or 30 minutes yeah","attachment":null,"posted":1715041020},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729030,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725386
Fucked up the new honey hole today gentlemen. Left the biggest, prettiest and fattest to breed, so these are the middle men. Accidentally harvested a girl, which made me very sad. But her roe fed some of my pet fish so it’s ok","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715045846086223.jpg","filename":"IMG_6180.jpg"},"posted":1715045846},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715046130631741.jpg","filename":"67067168_3493303964028301_9147902387652919296_o.jpg"},"posted":1715046130},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How do you guys prefer to cook Bluegill and other Bream without Frying them? I think their delicious, but I'm getting tired of deep fried and wat to try something new. Any recommendations?","attachment":null,"posted":1715048258},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729030
Nice bluegills. Panfish are so much fun. Good on you for being ethical.","attachment":null,"posted":1715048307},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729045,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729042
Could try scoring them and grilling them or the trusty wrap in tin foil with butter and garlic salt.","attachment":null,"posted":1715048525},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729030
second from top the female?","attachment":null,"posted":1715051028},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729066,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729043
It was my first time fishing that pond. Which is funny since it is not two blocks away from the house. But I wanted to insure that going into this spawn at least there was some good genes.
>>2729042
My favorite is pan frying in butter after coating in brown sugar, garlic powder, salt, and freshly diced green onion. Good stuff. Have also made stir fry, cooked over a fire, fish balls/crap cakes, in gumbo. There really isn’t a bad way to cook sunnies and other panfish.
Pic is a hybrid from the same pond today.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715051460115981.jpg","filename":"IMG_6177.jpg"},"posted":1715051460},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729068,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729062
Nope, the second to the bottom. You can tell she’s Gracie just by looking at her belly. No idea how I didn’t catch it till she was on the gill spike.
Biggest gill I caught at the pond","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715051578075250.jpg","filename":"IMG_6170.jpg"},"posted":1715051578},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It finally happened, I hooked a snapping turtle and didn't have anything to get the hook out without risking a finger. What am I supposed to do in these circumstances? I had to leave it in and now I feel really bad about it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715055769},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729090,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728870
Good move on changing the loops on the store bought snares anon, some of those snares have really poor quality or loops placed in weird positions, some of the store bought ones can also have cages with really thin wire that will bend over time and eventually break. I’m in Northern California and there is a bunch of people making and selling quality snares around here, I recommend looking up Vivid Snares, Ken Crab Slayer Snares, Hella Crabs snares, and Crabber Grabber snares. My favorite is Vivid snares because it glows in the dark and during winter I’ll do a lot of crabbing in the dark and the glowing snares helps see where I casted, it also has a cool weight that digs into the sand that helps keep it in place, and the squares on the cage aren’t that big so the crabs won’t steal your squid as often and they will have to stick around for longer trying to get squid and this will give more opportunities to snare one . Pic related is vivid snares","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715057295614097.jpg","filename":"IMG_1861.jpg"},"posted":1715057295},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729193,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729083
odds are he'll be fine, those fuckers are crazy resilient
he knows you didn't mean it","attachment":null,"posted":1715086736},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729205,"name":"Kevin Van Dam","msg":">>2728887
I have never really noticed a difference between braid and flouro when bass fishin except for the flouro and mono being more of a pain to use.
LMB are pretty dumb. I read into this some years ago, and some fish really go after visual stuff, some go for noises/vibration, some go for smells. And their vision isn’t the same as ours. Bass hunt with sight and vibration/sound, but as far as the sight goes, they focus on movement and contrast, neither of which is much of a factor with moss green braid. The contrast thing is interesting to think about, it explains why black and purple work well on the bottom of muddy ponds, the dark color moving around somehow shows up well against the brown background and stands out across some distance in murky water compared to lots of other colors.","attachment":null,"posted":1715088547},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729210,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I could use some advice on this one bros…. Idk why I always run into the craziest shit I don’t bother no one all I do in my free time is fish. I clean up trash when I do. I’m respectful to everyone anywhere I go. I keep to myself. I help others when the opportunity arises. I don’t understand why this sort of shit always happens to me
>Go to small pier (15’x6’) with ocean access on a huge channel
>Get there at 8am
>old man shows up few hours later, he takes the opposite side, we shoot the shit a bit mostly keep to our selves
>jetskiers show up
>channel is huge, goes on for miles north and south with inlets letting out to the ocean, probably like half a mile wide
>they have to be right on top of us
>keep zooming back and forth on our lines
>main one is a fat fuck who keeps stopping right on top of my lines to do donuts and cackle out loud, his boyfriends don’t do donuts but speed back and forth right over our lines
>all of them were around mid 30s, they knew better and it was 100% intentional the way this fat retard would cackle and look back at me as he goes maybe 500 feet north before turning back to do it again
>all the space in the world for them to do this shit but they had to do it right on our lines
>boat cop shows up after the 5th time doing his donuts, bitches them out tells them to fuck off gives them a warning
>they slowly come back over
>fatty sits there trying to stare me down looking infuriated as if I called the cops and he didn’t just get caught being a bitch
>as soon as cop is out of sight he starts splashing again, but then fucks off for good
Even the old man randomly said it seemed intentional. He also said he wished he had a weighted treble hook on him lol
What do I do in this sort of situation? I don’t own a gun but if I did and had a CC would it be justifiable to simply pull it out and place it on the wall in front of me for them to see? It’s bullshit. I lost fish because of this faggot I was getting hits.","attachment":null,"posted":1715089088},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729213,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729210
Honestly, if I had a weighted treble hook or any lure I didn’t mind losing and I decided to cast and hook this loser what do I do after? I assume he’d be pissed. Do I just stay and laugh while he starts bitching? Do I leave immediately? I’m genuinely asking because I may actually do this if something like this happens again.","attachment":null,"posted":1715089278},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729205
i like to line watch when jig fishing so i use yellow/chartreuse lines but i'm shit at tying leaders together","attachment":null,"posted":1715089931},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729219
>>2728887
Nta but I experimented this year and I do believe a flouro leader makes a difference. I suck at fishing though and it’s hit or miss I get a bite, can only seem to catch on senkos and plastic flukes. So take my experience with a grain of salt. Like, I can’t catch shit on a crank bait or a swimbait.
If you use top waters with heavy cover (duck weed & lily pads) leader isn’t necessary IMO.
High vis yellow I stopped using entirely.
I now use either grey or camo brown.
Learn the Alberto /Albright knot. It’s strong and very easy to tie. Practice it a dozen or so times so you can do it whenever, then you get better faster the more you tie it.
I would just avoid FG knots entirely for now, master one you can rely on (for LMB Alberto or Albright will be strong enough you’re not gonna catch a 25lb bass lmao). And then if you get it I catching bigger shit maybe learn the FG.","attachment":null,"posted":1715090895},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729247,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729213
Nothing you can do realistically without going to jail. Jet ski's are the bane of all anglers. It's the only watercraft made specifically for drunk assholes. Maybe lobby the city or county to put in an exclusion area and mark with buoys, assess fines. They are the worst though, it's like they can't have fun unless someone else is being tormented by their jackassery.","attachment":null,"posted":1715096188},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729247
I don’t think I would have gone to jail if I immediately left. But yeah now I understand why people hate them so much and why boaters will fuck with them. Boaters can be assholes too but it’s never anything like this shit.
I’m going to rig up a couple weighted treble hooks with steel leaders and snap swivels so I can quickly use them should this crap happen again. I think worst case it’s just
>oops I’m sorry why’s you get so close to where I was casting what were you even thinking haha","attachment":null,"posted":1715096836},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729083
they can't really bite you if you have your pliers on the hook. just gotta grab the hook and you're basically controlling their head at that point. I always carry some small side cutters/bolt cutters and cut the hook right below the barb if I hook something that's tough to get unhooked. also good to have if you ever get a hook through your own finger, it's the much easier way. alligator snappers aren't as risky as common snappers, common snappers have way more range of motion with their neck, and they're faster.","attachment":null,"posted":1715098802},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729267,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I was bass fishing and wasn't catching anything but dinks, so I decided to throw on the trusty mepps and catch some panfish. start reeling in a bluegill and a pretty big bass(probably close to 5lbs) starts chasing it right up to my kayak. let the bluegill stay in the water for a little longer to see what happens. the bass thinks about striking it multiple times, coming up to it really aggressively multiple times not even worried about my kayak. that would have been a good glide bait day I guess..","attachment":null,"posted":1715099326},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729269,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729210
now try being in a kayak, clearly heading right to a specific spot a couple dozen yards away, and a bass boat flies past you and parks it right in that spot like he had no idea that's where you were going. luckily however, those fuckers have tunnel vision on their livescopes and forgot how to fish the general area and instead just drop it in one spot below their boat so they usually don't ctch jack shit. they move further down the bank, I pull up, catch the fish they missed because I'm actually covering water, and they get to sit there and watch me reel in fish while they get skunked with $50+k worth of gear.","attachment":null,"posted":1715099628},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729030
Have you tried Crappie. Like bluegills on steroids and they are easy to clean and taste great. Whenever I try for bluegills I always end up catching Crappie instead.","attachment":null,"posted":1715101506},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729288,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729247
For me, it’s Wake Surfing boats.
>>2729213
3 oz Kastmasters are cheapish, fly like bullets, and give you plausible deniability compared to a snagging rig treble on a bite leader, lmao.","attachment":null,"posted":1715102577},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729285
I have tried once or twice, but no luck yet. They are the freshwater fish that eludes me.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715102673988936.jpg","filename":"IMG_6109.jpg"},"posted":1715102673},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Caught my very first catfish yesterday. Nothing giant, a Channel cat that was maybe a couple of pounds tops. I love the way these things fight, I think I'm addicted now. Caught them on liver.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715108151461048.jpg","filename":"1000011320.jpg"},"posted":1715108151},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729316,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729269
It’s the same shit with bank fishing with guys who aren’t real fishers and don’t know what they’re doing. You could have a lake that’s several miles in circumference and it just be you and then one group of guys fishing like 1000 feet away, but the second they see you bring in a fish they’ll come running over to fish right where you were.
No matter the circumstance of spot stealing you always hear the same bullshit cope.
>No one owns the water
Which to me has become a covert way of saying “I suck at fishing and have little to no common sense to figure out what I’m doing or respect for anyone”
>kayaks
I wanna get one. And I know that when I do I’m gonna run into the type of asshole who causes wake just to try and knock me over. I may actually hurt someone if that happened considering the water where I’d take it is full of gators. Idk why it’s so hard for people to just enjoy themself without trying to fuck anyone else over. It takes more effort to be a dickhead (often with no benefit btw) whether you’re stealing their spot or moving to fish their hole while they’re there or doing whatever other bullshit","attachment":null,"posted":1715108993},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Excuse me if this is a dumb question, but could I (as in, would it be recommended to) put an o-ring at the end of this rig and attaching it with a snap clip? That way I can swap it out with other rigs or lures if I wanted to","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715112518741248.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1715112518},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729341
my clip is before the weight","attachment":null,"posted":1715113962},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729356,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729341
Yes, but use a barrel swivel rather than an o-ring. Has 2 connection points for main line and leader and also mitigates line twist.","attachment":null,"posted":1715114220},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729341
Why wouldn’t you just tie the line to the clip?
Also protip, you can turn a swivel clip into just a normal clip if you cut the swivel. You only need the clip part and it makes it a little lower profile, keeps bait from twisting around.
I don’t think I understand what you’re asking if you’d be so kind as to edit your drawing","attachment":null,"posted":1715114397},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729361,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729353
>>2729356
I see, thanks for the help! I didn't think about getting a barrel swivel, that's a good idea.
>>2729359
Sure, see attached.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715114829558912.png","filename":"rig.png"},"posted":1715114829},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729364,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729361
Yeah people normally would use a swivel. That way you can have a handful of different rigs ready to go. Just attach the swivel to the clip and you’re good. Idk why I thought you meant you wanted to attach the clip at the bottom of the leader and somehow attach hooks and lures to the o ring.
What I’ve been doing is just attaching the clip to the end of my leader but honestly I think it’s fucking with fish biting what I throw because it makes it seem too unnatural I may switch to what you’re mentioning here.","attachment":null,"posted":1715115221},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729386,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2729210","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715117757844951.jpg","filename":"69542889_2411989132410209_10303733917286400_n.jpg"},"posted":1715117757},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729390,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729210
>if I did and had a CC would it be justifiable to simply pull it out and place it on the wall in front of me for them to see
No, brandishing is illegal. Legally the only time your gun comes out is to shoot someone.
In practice yeah you can do it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715118420},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729395,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729361
You could do that if you're never gonna fish deeper than the clip. Kind of defeats the purpose of a slip bobber though. Could just use a clip on one for that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715118979},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729408,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What size circle hook would you guys recommend for catching catfish? I'm not chasing trophies, just 2-5 pound channels and blues to put on the table mostly. I'm still learning the ins and outs of catfishing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715122104},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729410,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2729341
>>2729361
Just know that sets a maximum depth for your slip float rig which kinda negates the point if using a slip bobber, and a random tag of line is a bullshit thing to try and contain and manage.
I think youd be better off either putting the snap near the split shot, then attaching or removing a short leader (look in to "snelled hooks", I tend to snell my own but store bought works)","attachment":null,"posted":1715122196},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729411,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2729408
3/0 or 4/0 octopus circles will do you fine, and still give you a fighting chance if a double digit fish finds your bait. And even with a 3/0 hook you can still catch surprisingly small fish.","attachment":null,"posted":1715122443},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729464,"name":"Skid","msg":"I bought a 6'6" medium heavy gx2 and I have only made a few casts with it but I think I unironically like it","attachment":null,"posted":1715131094},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729472,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729364
>>2729395
>>2729410
I see, yeah that makes sense. Guess I should suck it up and manually change things out for now until I get a second set-up going","attachment":null,"posted":1715132939},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729538,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729472
Yep, my float rod just stays rigged and I bring another for casting lures. It's really nice to not have to re-tie.","attachment":null,"posted":1715145840},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729597,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729464
Anything specifically you like about it over a different medium heavy? or just in general?","attachment":null,"posted":1715167486},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"angling for perch tomorrow
havent been angling for well over a decade
earthworms still the best bait?","attachment":null,"posted":1715169398},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729310
did he growl at you? :3","attachment":null,"posted":1715172691},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729624,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729616
He did! Caught me completely off gaurd, I had no idea they did that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715173509},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729624
catfish are so fucking based","attachment":null,"posted":1715175041},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729717,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2729597
I'm a massive nerd with a fiberglass kink for starters, it feels more 'alive' than the graphite broom sticks, and it's going to be durable which is important because when I'm fishing in dense brush and do a BassMaster(tm) mega hook set and whack my shit off a tree branch it probably wont end my day of fishing.
It's going to spend 90% of it's time with a frog tied on 40lb braid
Also scum dog is best frog
>>2729606
They're fine","attachment":null,"posted":1715185854},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726490
Oh yeah?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715186715980331.jpg","filename":"Resized_20230811_143234.jpg"},"posted":1715186715},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729739,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"building a bass fishing tackle box for the first time, have some questions.
What size hooks and worm weights for texas rigs?
What weight tube jigs for tubes?
What weight ned heads?
What weight for shakey heads?
Which hooks are used for senkos?
Also dropshot weight size?
By size i mean weights. Just want the standard - go to sizes/weights that can be used almost everywhere for most applications","attachment":null,"posted":1715188671},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729742,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729739
I like 3/0 work hooks. For weights, generally a 1/4 or 1/8th ounce for water shallower than 20ft. If you fish deeper than that you might need 1/2 ounce or above.","attachment":null,"posted":1715189459},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729745,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My Daiwa Regal arrived and I noticed when I reel fast, the handle hits part of the bail since I’m probably accidentally pushing the handle in. Is this normal and my technique just bad?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715190536533365.jpg","filename":"IMG_6945.jpg"},"posted":1715190536},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729747,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729745
Never mind, I just realized all I had to do was tighten the handle.","attachment":null,"posted":1715190913},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729726
I love the spot patterns on these guys. Is that florida? Pic rel was my first beach drum. I was literally the only one on the beach that day.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715192672003974.jpg","filename":"20220323_075608.jpg"},"posted":1715192672},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729831,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729310
I'm trying to catch one at my local river. I have a colony of dubia cockroaches (pic related)so I've been putting those live on a dropshot. I've gotten bites but haven't caught one yet. I might try cheap hotdogs too","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715201235436636.jpg","filename":"1000005794.jpg"},"posted":1715201235},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729831
gulp minnows my dude. I have trouble keeping smaller channel cats away when I'm using those for other species. they seem to really love them for some reason. even the little 2.5" channel cats are very predatory and even chase moving baits.","attachment":null,"posted":1715203508},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729842
the 2.5" gulp minnows I mean, not 2.5" channel cats, that would be a sight.","attachment":null,"posted":1715203589},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729855,"name":"Skid","msg":"H*ck","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715205127314342.jpg","filename":"20240508_163917.jpg"},"posted":1715205127},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729857,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729769
Yep, Pensacola pass
Guessing Texas based off your sand?. I didn’t do much surf fishing while I lived there, mainly pier and bay (pic related) fishing for Spanish Macks and mangrove snapper and when I did i mainly targeted whiting for food. That was the one bull I caught.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715205572324564.jpg","filename":"IMG_5075.jpg"},"posted":1715205572},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729864,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">2 weeks until pike season opens
I cant fucking wait bros, I should finish my homemade lure that I had on standby for almost a year","attachment":null,"posted":1715206870},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729867,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729857
Second one was Outer Banks NC, first one was the James River in Virginia. I love fishing the beach but it's a lot of work without a 4x4. I love whiting, great to eat and make good bait. Caught many bluefish with it. No idea where the Spanish macks are but I'd love to catch one someday.","attachment":null,"posted":1715207271},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729930,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've had some cleaned bluegill in my fridge for about three days. I thought I would cook and eat them sooner, but life got in the way. Is it too late to use them as cutbait for cats?","attachment":null,"posted":1715217333},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2729946,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729008
Thanks for the tips, it caught me a very nice one and put up a very good fight (I also hooked into a snapping turtle's foot but luckily he unhooked himself).
I chopped the carp up into pieces to use as bait, but that proved to be a lot more difficult than I was thinking it was going to be. Initially I was trying to cut the carp into sections with the bone in the middle (rather than normal filet cuts), but after I got the head off i gave up on that idea and just cut off the side filets and tail. My hope is I won't need to catch any more fish for gar or catfish bait for a long time since I froze all the chunks of meat.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715222261588847.jpg","filename":"1710113847079.jpg"},"posted":1715222261},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729930
marinate it in jello and cast it","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715232406335452.jpg","filename":"jello.jpg"},"posted":1715232406},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729386
That’s not enough for me. I want to cause real damage. I know it would hurt either way but if I took it that far I’d want the peace of mind to know that the little faggot had to have the hook removed, potentially lost an eye etc
>>2729390
I understand that, the goal here isn’t to care though. What they were doing was also illegal in multiple ways. No wake, manatee area, going way over the limit, all posted btw, and harassing fishermen etc
If I did that it’s not so much me worrying about legal repercussions, I just wanna know if that would give my desired result and make them fuck off. Unless they got me on camera it’s easy enough to get away with it
>Oh it fell out of my bag while I was getting a new lure… anyways I’m glad you’re here officer these clowns have been driving pretty recklessly and harassing us and I guess it’s not surprising they felt threatened when it fell out of my bag after acting this way.","attachment":null,"posted":1715261525},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730106,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729538
>>2729472
The issue I have is I feel like my leader gets so short after just a few re ties. I’ll start with a 3 foot leader and do everything in my power to avoid changing lures but inevitably after the 3rd or 4th change it’s only about 1 to 1.5 feet, which I guess suffices but I feel better with 3 feet of leader. I only tie pollamar knots and I really don’t have that much excess to snip at the end so idk how this even happens lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1715261684},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730111,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729855
What is that lure?
>>2729831
Chicken hearts man. Go to the grocery store they should have a whole pack of like 50 of them for only like $6 (that’s what it was over 10 years ago anyways). They’re pure muscle and blood so they stay on the hook pretty well at least in my experience. Cut a few up, chum the area. Put your hook right in the middle of that area. And just wait. I don’t see many people talking about this bait but chicken hearts area great. Catch catfish, snakeheads, any scavenger like gars. Alternatively if you ever buy meat such as chicken breast and forget to cook it and it expires, save it and use it to fish, catfish love that shit. Just did that a week ago and caught a few gafftop cats.
Also years ago I was fishing a pond and trying out some store bought catfish bait. Didn’t catch shit on that bait the whole day, but then while leaving I found some dead chicks. Looked like someone’s dog killed them or they ran to an unrelated bird with its own chicks and got killed (seen it happen before). They were those black swamp chickens whatever you call them. So I put one on my hook to see what would happen, in 20 minutes I had a 5lb channel cat. Idk if you’re eating them or catching for fun but if you go to a pet store you can buy pre killed frozen mice. I would imagine one of those would catch some catfish, I just wouldn’t wanna eat it after.","attachment":null,"posted":1715262248},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730117,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How long can fish like Pike last in warm weather before spoiling?","attachment":null,"posted":1715263817},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730143,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729739
building a bass fishing tackle box for the first time, have some questions.
>What size hooks and worm weights for texas rigs?
3/0 or 4/0 EWG and straight shank flipping hooks are what i almost always use. Depends on the size of your plastic, can be smaller or bigger. Can be anywhere from 1/8 to 1oz depending on how deep you’re fishing and if you have to punch vegetation
What weight tube jigs for tubes?
1/4 to 1/2
What weight ned heads?
1/16 to 1/4
What weight for shaky heads?
1/8 to 1/4
Which hooks are used for senkos?
4/0 ewg or 4 dropshot/whacky hook. Elastic hair ties or o ring rigging will help save your whacky rigged senkos
Also dropshot weight size?
3/8 or 1/4 cylinder
By size i mean weights. Just want the standard - go to sizes/weights that can be used almost everywhere for most applications","attachment":null,"posted":1715269905},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730149,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2730104
A 4 ounce pyramid sinker will absolutely kill if yuh ou hit em in the head.
>>2730111
Scum dog, I hit the railing on my cast and fucked my shit.
>>2729946
Congrats anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715271044},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730158,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729855
>>2730149
did that the other day on my first cast. learned baitcaster not too long ago and actually found it pretty easy with very few hiccups, but casting around tall weeds resulted in disaster by just clipping a single weed.","attachment":null,"posted":1715272932},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730163,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730149
Thanks! I've also learned carp are a bitch to prepare for catfish bait so I'm never doing that again. Absolute bloody, boney mess","attachment":null,"posted":1715273968},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730164,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730149
Yeah I don’t wanna kill anyone, I’m fairly confident I can treble hook them and snag torso or arm or face without killing them. Just hurting them enough to make that sort of bullshit have been not worthwhile","attachment":null,"posted":1715273977},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730165,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730158
>>2730149
I prefer baitcasters, they’re just easier for me to use feel more “right” to me than a spinner, but I’ve done this a handful of times. Worst two was the one time I set my backpack down on an incline hill a bit higher than I was standing and my lure clipping the handle on it, and then the one time idk what I even did but I hit a branch probably 15 feet above me somehow. Both of those were so bad I had to ditch all the line. Normally it’s easy enough to pick out the tangles but fuck birthing worse than the entire reel being an unfixable mess from one shitty cast and that’s the only rod you got with you at the time. Especially when you were actually catching fish","attachment":null,"posted":1715274197},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730196,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is 20lb to 10lb too big a transition for a flouro streamer leader? And is it a bad idea to mix brands?","attachment":null,"posted":1715279772},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730220,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2730164
Google snagging hooks, it's a treble hook with a weight
>>2730163
>bloody, boney mess
Very much
>>2730165
>entire reel being an unfixable mess from one shitty cast and that’s the only rod you got with you
That's the situation I was in. Once I got if out I counted the cranks to put it all back in, I had almost 150 feet of backlash, took me like 45 minutes to untangle. I thought to take the pic some time after starting to fix it.
>>2730196
Kinda but you can get away with it if you cheat a little. Double and triple surgeons knots, Albright knots, and improved blood knots are good work arounds for getting thick line to connect to overly thin line, but your leader will hinge. What weight rod is this going on, what kind of line, and how long is the leader?
Mixing brands should be fine, however.
>>2730158
Baitcasters aren't too hard if you've got a reasonably heavy lure and your spool tension and brakes set correctly. You can also kind of cheat a light backlash as soon as a lure hits the water by pulling back with the rod tip while feathering line to pull out 10ish extra feet of line. That also helps lures sink faster if you're trying to get deep","attachment":null,"posted":1715285772},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730235,"name":"Skid","msg":"I officially and unironically endorse the gx2 as a frog stick","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715288475126243.jpg","filename":"20240509_165413.jpg"},"posted":1715288475},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730253,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730220
8wt, wf floating, and 6-7 feet. I am being a bit lazy and cheap, just don't wanna buy another box of flouro just for a leader so hoping I can just do a two piece. If I really need a better transition, should I do 15lb for it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715293167},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730264,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2730253
Honestly for what you're trying to do I think youd want a thicker butt section like 25 or 30 more importantly than a smoother transition to 10lb to try to get the best energy transfer
I'd advise you to get a spool of 15 and 25, but if you could only get one I'd get 25 now and 15 later. 2' of 25, 2' of 20, and 3' of 15 is my go to 7 foot bass eader.","attachment":null,"posted":1715294261},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730266,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Who has the bass gf image? I am in dire need of it","attachment":null,"posted":1715294398},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730269,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730264
I do have a little spool of 25 lb maxima chameleon I could use as a butt. I'll try your recipe and maybe bite the bullet and buy more flouro line sooner than later.","attachment":null,"posted":1715295455},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"what kind of fish is this?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715295481041111.webm","filename":"1715294723870035.webm"},"posted":1715295481},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730299,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730104
You could have recorded it and shown the cop.","attachment":null,"posted":1715299454},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730320,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730104
>What they were doing was also illegal in multiple ways
So the fuck what? Are you a cop? No. You wanna act like a street nigga go the fuck ahead but you get this idea that you're somehow "the good guy" out of your head.","attachment":null,"posted":1715303390},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730320
What's life like when you're this stupid. Is it pleasant bliss or are you angry and confused all the time? I'm sort of imagining you know, like when a mentally challenged adult is confounded by the childproofing on a pill bottle.","attachment":null,"posted":1715303731},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730325,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730323
Why don't take your little gun out and show it to me? Isn't that how you solve all your problems, bitch boy?","attachment":null,"posted":1715303900},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730373,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is a 10 inch leader too close to the swivel to scare the fishies? I've never fished before","attachment":null,"posted":1715313326},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730375,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730111
Thanks if I can get that cheap at my local grocery I'll try it out. I would eat catfish even if I had to use roadkill as bait, you don't eat the guts anyway","attachment":null,"posted":1715315057},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730391,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730373
Probably fine for a lure. If you're talking bobber you might go longer.","attachment":null,"posted":1715320320},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730408,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"should I kill any common carp I catch even if I don't intend to eat them? they are invasive and taste like garbage","attachment":null,"posted":1715325521},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730408
only some species in some places are aggressively invasive. otherwise they're 'naturalized'. it'd be like killing pigeons","attachment":null,"posted":1715326670},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730441,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730408
most fish are invasive. they used to be confined to certain regions of the us, now most are widespread. killing a carp here and there won't do jack shit. it's far too late. just let it be.","attachment":null,"posted":1715342690},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730442,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725386
even the fish can't stand the smell lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1715342903},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"decided to try out my mepps syclops spoon that I've had for a long time and never really messed with. the fish were lighting it up. bass, crappie, everything. then my trip got cut short because a fish came off in some brush along the bank and I had to get him out... tons of poison ivy. I got turbofucked from head to toe last year by something and that's gonna suck if I yeeted myself again today. you're welcome fish.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715355596144280.jpg","filename":"1711568232821413.jpg"},"posted":1715355596},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730483
I have a strange form of retardation. From i was 5 and until i was 14 i fishes mepps spinners 90% of the time and i very simply just caught fish. I still catch fish, but i havent used a mepps spinner in like 20 years. I have $6000 dollars worth it high quality fishing shit and it never occured to me to get a mepps spinner. I dont know why the fuck i never buy them but i think its because, in my mind its childrens gear and also kind of cheating","attachment":null,"posted":1715375660},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730408
How is the national stock of them? Here they are protected year round, but we dont have many. Under all circumstances, murdering it solves nothing","attachment":null,"posted":1715376575},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730373
Depends on the fish and the depth you fish. It doesnt really matter though, try, if it doesnt work simply try something else. Fishing ineffectively catches 100% more fish than not fishing, play the game and theory craft as you go","attachment":null,"posted":1715376738},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730117
There is no reason other than famine to eat pike. Also a few hours tops.","attachment":null,"posted":1715376903},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730620,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729745
>Not having a daiwa exist
Stay pleb","attachment":null,"posted":1715377075},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730745,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i went home and fished with my shitty zebco spincaster for panfish and chain pickerel with worms. it was the most fun i've had fishing in a while.
there's something comfy about spincasters.","attachment":null,"posted":1715397980},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Went evening fishing at a pond the bluegill only come out near dark. Caught a few of em but they felt tricky to hook for some reason, missed a few I felt I really shoudve had.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715398822904583.jpg","filename":"356464681681.jpg"},"posted":1715398822},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730755,"name":"Skid","msg":"Hey guys look what I found","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715401957431764.jpg","filename":"20240510_202843.jpg"},"posted":1715401957},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730763,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730413
Well, if the pigeons were competing with delicious birds that I would be able to otherwise eat, I probably would kill them. I'd rather catch a walleye, a pike, or a catfish any day than a dirty, disgusting carp.
>>2730441
That's unfortunate.
>>2730614
I don't know how they are Canada-wide, but in my province they are considered a pest species. No limits on how many you can keep, you can spear and bowfish for them, etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1715403868},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730766,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"On the couch right now in a 100+ year old dump of a house in the Driftless. It's been a good day. I lost two football indicators. Those things never seem to stay on. I kind of caught a trout. I had it on the bank, and I didn't want to drag it. The fish popped off before I could get to him. He really liked my indicators. I think I'm going to switch to Airlocks. I'm going to sleep now so I can go fishing early tomorrow.","attachment":null,"posted":1715404438},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730607
they've kind of been put on the back burner by most people simply because there is so many different kinds of lures these days, but they still work good as ever. it's a must for multi-species fishermen. I use them regularly as a search bait.","attachment":null,"posted":1715422082},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730814,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730763
you also have to do research yourself to see how much of a "pest" certain creatures really are. often it's overblown or complicated. here in the US we tend to label anything that interferes with our developement of the human community a "pest." this includes beavers, muskrats, bobcats, ants, basically anything. that's why we have people with room temp iq who think it's justified to shoot anything on 4 legs that isn't a cat or dog. it's pretty shit how out of tune with nature the modern world is. if it eats our invasive livestock, or invaive crops, it's a "pest" with open season even if it is a native species. look at western europe and all the animals they used to have before eradicating them. same thing will happen here. large predators are already wiped out from 75% of their native range because they were a threat to livestock which is non-native. lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715422487},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730827,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone want to go spearfishing with me around Crescent Head? I have a house up there. I want to bite the bullet on like $400-500 of equipment to go fishing but havent decided yet, still trying to imagine whether I'd really like it or not. My mum can drive me to spear fish at the delicate islands/delicate nobby.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715427707230467.jpg","filename":"The-view-from-the-Crescent-Head-lookout_Fotor.jpg"},"posted":1715427707},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730830,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730827
I've been thinking about this for like 3 months now. The issue is I don't want to buy the equipment, not enjoy myself and have awful buyers regret. Really I want to be able to keep spearfishing in the same spot, which I guess I can because I have the ability to get there...
Oh yeah I know I could also spearfish off the Crescent Head Big Nobby in this approximate place, but I have no idea if it'd be too dangerous, it really could be (could get swept out to the ocean, idk).
I guess a reasonable first step or baby step would be to buy spearfishing flippers and try diving with them to get a feel for how I'd do it with a gun. I think I'll do that.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715428454890949.png","filename":"Screenshot_2.png"},"posted":1715428454},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730833,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730830
Can you rent the gear? Then you could see if you actually like it before spending a bunch of money","attachment":null,"posted":1715429428},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730849,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Lost the same jerkbait for the 6th time this week within the first 3 casts. God dammit Neptune let me catch my fucking bass and trout in peace!
Also what's a good lure/setup for medium heavy rods and 10lb mono spincasters? I want to at least make this trip to dicks sporting goods worth more than tributes to any freshwater body within a 10-15 mile radius.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715437258243256.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240511_101559_Samsung Internet.png"},"posted":1715437258},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730884,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730755
Found one too!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715443703360875.jpg","filename":"IMG_3133.jpg"},"posted":1715443703},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730896,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"A legal from the surf
Has been pounding that same hole on the beach for like 2 weeks and finally got one after dozen of shorts","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715445424616813.jpg","filename":"20240511_091934.jpg"},"posted":1715445424},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730902,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730849
>bass
My personal favorites
>~2/0 EWG hook and soft plastic worm Texas rig (weedless so can't lose) when I know roughly where they are
>Spoon, in-line spinner, or offset spinner to search
There's others people like, but these seem to work pretty well for me and you have a lot of control over how they're presented (more than crank or jerk baits)
>trout
A single weighted treble hook is great, I'm a big fan of that technique.","attachment":null,"posted":1715447567},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730910,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I basically encountered every kind of animal these last days expect fish
I already switched to a smaller hook but i guess I should change to the bell sinker rig","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715449756231008.jpg","filename":"IMG20240511175444.jpg"},"posted":1715449756},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730918,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730896
wow! nice one","attachment":null,"posted":1715450545},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2730925,"name":"Skid","msg":">>2730884
Nice find","attachment":null,"posted":1715451679},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731051,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What's the best catfish bait I can get at the grocery store? I'm not usually a catfish guy but I am going out with a carolina rig tomorrow for a few hours.","attachment":null,"posted":1715479392},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731058,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731051
Hotdogs","attachment":null,"posted":1715481888},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731059,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731058
How do I keep them on the hook when casting? Does having more weight keep them from accelerating too much and flying off?","attachment":null,"posted":1715482309},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731059
Just lob it. Don't fling it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715484821},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731063,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"test","attachment":null,"posted":1715485100},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731094,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730766
I fished at French Creek and an undisclosed creek near the house. Both creeks were a bust. Although I didn't get any trout (just a tiny chub), I got a sunburn. I did get to see some French Creek browns.
I fished after pic rel, which involved a massive cattle relocation, including across the creek, I fished downstream without water clarity problems, but when I walked back up, the water was very cloudy. When I was at French Creek, I would create these terrible clouds of sediment that would follow me downstream, which seemed to move faster than the cow muckery. Other than walking on the bank to minimize stirring up sediment, is there anything else I should know? For instance, is this more of a springtime issue, or am I just clumsy fatass?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715496040664647.jpg","filename":"1705377785005.jpg"},"posted":1715496040},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729210
You don't need to bring a gun out just because some fat retard on a jet ski is being a douchebag. I get why you feel that way but never give in to that temptation. If I did that every time someone annoyed me, there would be no homeless drug addicts left in my county. Next time just record him and report him to fish and game for harassing/interfering with fishing. Its a crime in most states. He might call you a bitch for it, but you would still win, and anything he does to retaliate would just be more reason to cite or arrest him. Get him thrown in jail, not yourself. Thats funnier than what he was doing anyways. Fuck fat people.","attachment":null,"posted":1715496684},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731062
what is the difference between lobbing and flinging in terms of how you actually do the cast?","attachment":null,"posted":1715497687},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Some guy today was in awe that I wasnt getting snagged on the trees. Well yeah. I'm not flicking my fucking line into the trees. Why do people have this weird respect for fly fishing? or mysticism or whatever. Another dude was bitching about not getting bites and I asked him if he would try a fly rod. "Oh thats way too hard. Its like an art form bro." Its not, its so fucking easy. You tie a fake bug to a line and swing your arm back and forth. Every time I use it I get fish. And thats on some 1980 reel that doesn't even have drag. You know what i think is magical? Catching fish with a spinning rod. I dont catch shit. Texas rig, bait, carolina rig, spinners, worms, fuckin kastmasters... i just went 4 days without a bite. Meanwhile i can tie my bellybutton lint on the end of a leader and catch steelhead. Maybe i' just a retard but it seems way more efficient than all the fucking around people do with regular poles.
Also fuck people who litter. There is trash all over the place lately. What the fuck?","attachment":null,"posted":1715499790},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My first big catfish I ever caught. LA river","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715500826998684.jpg","filename":"catfeesh.jpg"},"posted":1715500826},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731100
The only people who even register what I'm doing usually are other fly fishers. It's insane the amount of people who get really close behind me or to my casting side for some reason to ask their mandatory "catch anything?!" One of these days some dipshit is gonna take a wooly bugger to the face or worse a heavy weighted streamer walking into a cast to bug me.
>Catching fish with a spinning rod. I don't catch shit.
Sometimes I swear the conventional tackle advice feels like bs. I've only ever had success on paddle tails with blades and spoons, and of course worms. Crankbaits don't work for me, neither do typical bass plastics, though I may have just given up on too early on the latter.","attachment":null,"posted":1715504635},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731184,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731051
I use bait elastic or sewing thread for softer chunk baits","attachment":null,"posted":1715530198},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731193,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731098
Just going slow, not loading up the rod on the backswing. It's the abrupt changes in direction and velocity that tear the bait off.","attachment":null,"posted":1715531455},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm getting tired of channel cats. Catfish is ok if you're intentionally going for them with the proper rig, but constantly getting your treble hook lures smashed by catfish is annoying. fuckers damn-near swallow it half the time and I hate having to do surgery to get it out. pretty big one hit a 1/8oz spoon today and I didn't think I was gonna be able to get him loose, luckily I finally did. they basically sew their mouth shut with a treble hook, I'm contemplating going to single hooks entirely on all my lures because channel cats are constantly harassing me. pretty sure I've caught one on half of the lures I own. at this point I'd rather get skunked than catch a channel cat.","attachment":null,"posted":1715537515},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731232,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731051
chicken livers have the best drawing power but they are very messy and don't stay on the hook good. shrimp is what I usually prefer to use because it's not messy and it seems to have better drawing power than a lot of the other cmmon stuff.tjsw","attachment":null,"posted":1715537711},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731233,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731100
there is always trash everywhere these days. people are retarded lazy fucks. what's so hard about having a big ziplock bag with you to shove trash in? I'm starting to think most people legitimately have sub 70IQ. even children know to pick up trash.","attachment":null,"posted":1715537995},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731247,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731233
I was at a fly fishing conference, and the DNR gave me this recycled metal mesh bag with a drawstring top. I haven't used it yet, but I really like it. I'm going to use it for mushrooms this week, if I can find them.","attachment":null,"posted":1715540019},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731258,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i hate germany
>8 hours nonstop trolling at the lake
>not a single bite
>not a single fish
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee","attachment":null,"posted":1715542058},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731276,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I want to ask a question but this thread will hit its limit soon. Can someone make another one so I can ask my question?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715544264515218.jpg","filename":"IMG_0327.jpg"},"posted":1715544264},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731278,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxQXKO194XM&ab_channel=Eagles","attachment":null,"posted":1715544743},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731284,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731276
ask it, anons respond to previous threads all the time","attachment":null,"posted":1715546842},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731296,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731276
Ask the doggone question you hooligan.","attachment":null,"posted":1715550852},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731302,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"bass fishermen be like
> yeah, that's about a 4 pounder
when they catch a 1 pound fish","attachment":null,"posted":1715551342},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731302
I do the opposite. Check out this single pounders I caught.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715556174961971.jpg","filename":"20240220_173740.jpg"},"posted":1715556174},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731332,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I tried live worms, a bunch of youtube clickbait plastics, salmon eggs, bread, and cheese for 4 hours today and not a single bite. Not even a bluegill, even though i could see 20 of them and literally put the fucking bait in their.mouth. pulled out my fly rod and caught 4 fish in a half hour. I'm just not going to cast anymore. There has to be something simple i'm doing wrong. I tried a texas rig, wacky worm, all types of presentations, a hook with weights, and even different pound test line. Maybe this is just what shoreline fishing is. Time to either buy a boat or try the ocean i guess.","attachment":null,"posted":1715558014},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731343,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731332
That's why it's alled fishing rather than catching, Anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715559140},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731355,"name":"Kevin Van Dam","msg":">HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY!!!!
>NEW!!!!
>>2731353
>>2731353
>>2731353
>>2731353","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715562209056847.jpg","filename":"70062372-38F4-4060-B676-6A3F97C77168.jpg"},"posted":1715562209},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731101
Love the way those channel cats fight. Nice catch, Anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715569024},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2731512,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730833
Don't think so. I'll buy fins and go snorkelling/try diving at Clovelly or somewhere. Though I tried that about 2 months ago and the water was turbid/full of matter and so I couldn't dive, could barely see my feet in the water.","attachment":null,"posted":1715587919},{"board":"out","thread":2725386,"pid":2732397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725971
Learned from an old coonass you gotta cook them like you would a low country boil. I use zatarans shrimp and crab, cut up some lemons and onions and toss them in there maybe some potatoes. The texture is more rubbery than crab or lobster but its not bad if you bleed and clean them correctly.","attachment":null,"posted":1715803716}]}
{"title":"Hikes in and Around Oregon","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2725908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Moving out to Oregon for a job: near the cesspool called Portland. Any suggestions on places to hike for someone who has never been in the NW.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714416898975229.png","filename":"or-01.png"},"posted":1714416898},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2725912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"A little far out from Portland, but Wallowa-Whitman National Forest is worth the drive in my opinion.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714417997784718.jpg","filename":"Wallowa_Mountains.jpg"},"posted":1714417997},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2725914,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Everything around Mt Hood is amazing. Just live there for a year and explore it. You'll keep finding new trails. If you can get to Multnomah on a less crowded day, I would say it's worth the visit.
Eagle creek is a great one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714418621},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2725926,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"bump","attachment":null,"posted":1714422341},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2725929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725908
The Columbia gorge
This >>2725914
The McKenzie Pass, Camp Sherman, and Three Sisters
Newberry National Volcanic Monument.
If you want to go really far out go out east, to the Ochoco National Forest, and Malheur National Forest.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714422796154530.jpg","filename":"Wizard Falls Fish Hatchery.jpg"},"posted":1714422796},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2725946,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725908
There is also JPacific Crest Trail which is a part of The Triple Crown of Hiking.
You also have crater lake, but I like Newberry better.
Don't fore get Washington got some nice hiking too.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714425650488366.jpg","filename":"ochoco national forest.jpg"},"posted":1714425650},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2725955,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"All the good trails are in California and Washington, Oregon is both full and ugly","attachment":null,"posted":1714427746},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2726007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725955
Let me guess you never been out of the Portland area?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714437276669450.jpg","filename":"mackenzie pass.jpg"},"posted":1714437276},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2726456,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725955
You couldn't be further from the truth:
California has 250 people per square mile
Washington has 118 people per square mile
Oregon has 44 people per square mile
https://worldpopulationreview.com/states","attachment":null,"posted":1714523874},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2726474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725946
What good places are there in Washington? Partially worried about the presence of Brown Bears so are there any over there?","attachment":null,"posted":1714527361},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2726500,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’m curious about Oregon as well, specifically the eastern part of the state, in the rain shadow of the Cascades. The mountains are nice, but there has to be stuff going on in the desert, right?
>>2726456
Pretty much everywhere in California is two hours or less from a city of 300k people. There are way too many people.","attachment":null,"posted":1714530119},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2726504,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725908
Same but around Seattle. Any recs?","attachment":null,"posted":1714530693},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2726513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726007
>>2726456
I said we are full, alright? Plenty of space elsewhere.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714532785152688.jpg","filename":"mtn.jpg"},"posted":1714532785},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2726515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726007
Nope, there are chuds out there and its hard to pick up my fent","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714533118245296.jpg","filename":"0612.jpg"},"posted":1714533118},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2726901,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726515
Is that the Big Obsidian Flow at Newberry?","attachment":null,"posted":1714627003},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2726934,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725908
3 sisters
Mount Saint Helens is a simple walk up mountain, get a good look at the caldera.","attachment":null,"posted":1714641538},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2726954,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725908
the coast/beach is pretty desolate in areas...very unique hiking imo...I miss the west coast...","attachment":null,"posted":1714652985},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2727212,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726901
>>2726515
Can someone tell me why the communist state of Oregon is not allowing me to enter the Big Obsidian Flow park unless it's between June - Late Fall?
>>> if anyone has any tips on where to park to avoid said communism, let me know","attachment":null,"posted":1714687272},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2727228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727212
It the fed, the park roads memorial day.","attachment":null,"posted":1714689967},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2727268,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727212
You can always part your vehicle near one of the east side trail and hike up and in.","attachment":null,"posted":1714696705},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2727282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727212
Find a camping spot off china hat road, and hike in.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714698099111593.jpg","filename":"china hat.jpg"},"posted":1714698099},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2727292,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725912","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714699382948411.jpg","filename":"DSCF8743.jpg"},"posted":1714699382},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2727293,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725908
highly highly recommend Lost Lake Butte","attachment":null,"posted":1714699806},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2727613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725929
I went and did the bike trail around Newbury Craters back in 2018. Don't forget to take in the the obsidian flow on the access road on the way up.","attachment":null,"posted":1714780544},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2727913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725908
Lincoln City has a really nice beach with 24/7 access and you can light fires.","attachment":null,"posted":1714848642},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2727915,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I just bought land in Christmas Valley lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1714848879},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2727948,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Has anyone hiked Mount Saint Helens? I have a few questions about the park.
- Can you in the crater where the explosion happened? I know its still "active" but is there any danger or rules against doing it.
- Is there snow on top of the mountain all year around? Just need to know if I need crampons or microspikes.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714854256072641.jpg","filename":"be8228e3-57bd-4c2e-9484-55de68bbe329_1140x641.jpg"},"posted":1714854256},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2728049,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Cove palisades","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714865300929026.jpg","filename":"851fd41f9942aaaa1de9706c3e62de27.jpg"},"posted":1714865300},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2728195,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728049
>Cove palisades
Lake Billy Chinook is okay, The only thing worth seeing is the Metolius Balancing Rocks.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714884110121757.jpg","filename":"Balancing-Rocks-Sunset-b.jpg"},"posted":1714884110},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2728203,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727948
>Can you in the crater where the explosion happened?
No it is illegal
>Is there snow on top of the mountain all year around?
No. It will be gone by some time in July or August.","attachment":null,"posted":1714885627},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2728238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">bump","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714903765975937.jpg","filename":"Three Sisters.jpg"},"posted":1714903765},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2728245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Off topic, but does anyone know any good beginner caving spots in Oregon. Want to get into that hobby but don't know where to start.","attachment":null,"posted":1714905241},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2729035,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728245
Arnold Ice Cave.
Lava River Cave
Skylight Cave
Redmond Caves
Fort Rock Cave
Derrick Cave
Boyd Cave
Sea Lion Caves, Skeleton Cave, Oregon Caves, and Newberry are all tour lead I believe.","attachment":null,"posted":1715047149},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2729070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727948
Climbing requires a permit that's a pain to get, but spots open up on short notice as people give them up. Even if you can't summit there are amazing hikes all around the mountain. It's one of my favorite places.","attachment":null,"posted":1715052277},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2729165,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725912
Echo Lake might be my favorite hike anywhere","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715080278792606.jpg","filename":"PXL_20220703_223409964.jpg"},"posted":1715080278},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2729248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725955
Correct. The PNW is overated garbage stick to California or the East coast.
>>2726007
You're the reason we can't have nice things.","attachment":null,"posted":1715096362},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2729249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728245
Why would I tell a non local?","attachment":null,"posted":1715096557},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2729253,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727212
There's no communism out here in Portland, just identity-obsessed shit libs.","attachment":null,"posted":1715097079},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2729355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727915
Did you really? I work there","attachment":null,"posted":1715114086},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2729460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729248
I am not a fag, and I don't live in partland like you do.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715130263282909.jpg","filename":"bearmarket.jpg"},"posted":1715130263},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2729500,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729248
Ah yes some guy on the internet doesn't want me in their state, I guess I have to listen to him.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715135748669900.png","filename":"Screenshot 2023-07-27 at 10.29.54 PM.png"},"posted":1715135748},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2731834,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's a long way out from Portland, but the Rogue River Trail is probably the best trail in southern Oregon (starting just outside Grants Pass and going basically all the way to the coast). The weather during the summer is similar to northern California so it's very comfortable. It's also a world-class whitewater rapids area.","attachment":null,"posted":1715644021},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2732100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731834
Only worth going on an off day. Especially when the trail narrows, it's not fun having to hug the rock wall cause some man shaped like a bowling ball is taking up the whole path.","attachment":null,"posted":1715721658},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2732101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729460
I doubt anyone wants to live in Portland. If only there were high paying jobs less than an hour away from work: ow wait, that's basically anyone in Colorado.","attachment":null,"posted":1715721790},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2732105,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726504
Olympic is top tier, but overcrowded. Cascades are worth the drive. I recommend any trail overlooking the Skagit River. The prominence of the mountains around make the view breathtaking.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715722527186987.jpg","filename":"Cascade_pass.jpg"},"posted":1715722527},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2732451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725908
bump","attachment":null,"posted":1715813834},{"board":"out","thread":2725908,"pid":2732557,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725908
Beacon Rock is like an hour drive away in Washington. They've got some pretty neato rock formations.","attachment":null,"posted":1715840359}]}
{"title":"Prepper general.","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2725771,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How well are you prepared for zombie apocalypse and what are you going to do about them pesky perky drones?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714384220870908.jpg","filename":"64365346435.jpg"},"posted":1714384220},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2725795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725771
*ducks under a tree*
psh, nothing personnel droneman","attachment":null,"posted":1714392345},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2727154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725771
I've recently bought some large airtight storage cases. I've filled them with bags of sugar, flour and salt. I reckon that after a few years into the post-apocalypse people will sell their daughter for a bag of precious refined sugar.
A bag of pure salt and some fine wheat flour will probably buy me 10 slaves.
Other things Im considering storing is coffee and tea, that'll probably be worth its weight in gold. Other items Im considering is tobacco, booze and candy. Luxury items that will be gone after a year tops as supermarkets and malls get looted out.
I live in a small apartment building that was built during the height of the Cold War so my cellar is also a fallout shelter with nuclear and biological air filters. The current stash should stay good for at least 3 years but due to it being in a cold dry and dark basement its probably gonna last a long longer than that.
Basically im setting myself up as a wasteland jew.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714677350100659.jpg","filename":"Barter.jpg"},"posted":1714677350},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729419,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725771
>How well are you prepared for zombie apocalypse
I can make a pointy stick. Zombies don't stand a chance.","attachment":null,"posted":1715123632},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729425,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727154
what do you do with the things that are about to expire? surely you must use them much ahead of time if they’re in bulk","attachment":null,"posted":1715125137},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729504,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725771
I am very well prepared, however, it's a never ending process.","attachment":null,"posted":1715136056},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727154
Coffee is not good for long term storage, unless instant (dehydrated) coffee crystals","attachment":null,"posted":1715136185},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729508,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729425
Stock items without expy date as bulk of your prep, rotate other items.","attachment":null,"posted":1715136273},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"if you don't have a collection of seeds you're ngmi
at the bare fucking minimum, even those bags of mixed beans meant for soup are better than nothing, and with the variety of beans, you get a variety of nutrients; just keep the beans in a cool dark place & you'll be fine
and if you're worried about bugs, put them in an airtight jar / vacuum packed bag with a few bay leaves mixed inside (bay leaves will kill the bugs, its an actual legit thing, seriously, look it up)
most seeds, if kept in favorable conditions, can easily last 10 to 30 years","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715137506522260.jpg","filename":"3235360696.jpg"},"posted":1715137506},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729645,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729425
>>2729508
The pro move is to sand off the expiration date so that it never expires.","attachment":null,"posted":1715178859},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729691,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725771
I’m prepared for more likely disasters.
>almost no debt
My house will be paid off in three years (I’ve been in it for 7, so pretty good). Both cars were paid off. No big medical expenses or credit card debt or student loans.
>solid career
My job can easily pivot into different industries, or focus on specific ones. It’s considered critical infrastructure, and I was off of work for two (2) days during the Covid nonsense.
>food
I keep a pantry stocked for hurricane season. It’s a 2 month supply, which is really overkill for the more likely stuff. I’m rotating it out now.
>actually been through SHTF scenarios
Lives in NOLA during Katrina (was 23, in Mid City). Live well outside the city now and was here during Ida (not hyped, but one of the most powerful storms to ever hit the US).","attachment":null,"posted":1715184383},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729691
This inspired me. Once I have a place of my own I think I'm going to keep a month's supply of stock.","attachment":null,"posted":1715184732},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729696
It’s fun to talk about when the shit hits the fan, the zombie apocalypse, the WWIII draft, and other crazy fantasies. It interesting to think about and ties in to general preparedness stuff.
But a financial dip (not 99% unemployment) is much more likely. Gas prices spiking can absolutely happen. There can be disruptions to food supplies. It might not be down to zero for months in end, but some things might be in short supply. Natural disasters can hit another where as well.
I think it’s a good idea to just be prepared for more likely scenarios. It’s easy too. You don’t need to stick up in ways to make cellphone jammers or homemade weapons. Just some basic stuff.
And entertainment as well. That’s something everyone glosses over. “Hurr duet I’ll be too busy surviving to need entertainment.” Nope. The electricity will be off for two weeks, you won’t be able to work, and you’ll just be stuck at home (or in your bunker lol) with nothing to do but eat and count your bullets. Most people don’t have hobbies that do t require electricity.","attachment":null,"posted":1715198230},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD3DgarmwV0
Worry more about helping others than those who are watching you on a drone.","attachment":null,"posted":1715198448},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2729928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727154
Will sugar and salt survive long term? How do you store them for long term? It's a great idea, but personally, I'd just stick to the booze","attachment":null,"posted":1715217161},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2730018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729928
as long as its kept in a cool dry place or sealed container, its basically never going bad, especially salt","attachment":null,"posted":1715231775},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2730210,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725771
I'm digging a hole in the ground to build an underground storage. I'm almost done with it. Just 0.5m more and I'll start with the building","attachment":null,"posted":1715282879},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2730214,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730018
>never going bad, especially salt
saltblocks,,cheapandurable.,justack with tile on top.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715283920536596.jpg","filename":"Lotswife..jpg"},"posted":1715283920},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2730307,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725771
Is being fat part of the prep? Like storing calories or something?","attachment":null,"posted":1715301493},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2731118,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729805
>And entertainment as well
This. Last year we had a big ass storm roll through that knocked out a local substation and my area was out of power for like 8 days. I have a hand crank phonograph with a couple milk crates full of 78s and that was pretty indispensable. Reading books and listening to old tunes by lantern light for a week was pretty comfy.","attachment":null,"posted":1715513243},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2731129,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2725771
I recently bought a can sealer, but only now realize empty cans are stupid expensive to the consumer slaves.
A #2.5 can (think large soup can) is $3, empty.
I'd be throwing money away to seal perishables at that cost. I was going to buy some bulk, freeze dried food and seal it.
Does anyone know where I could obtain cans cheaper?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715519197549552.jpg","filename":"1000005518.jpg"},"posted":1715519197},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2731130,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731129
They sell all sorts of slop in large cans for low cost. Surely there's a wholesaler who you can get 300 from at a fraction, just look into it further.","attachment":null,"posted":1715519530},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2731137,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731130
That's what I'm trying to do. Alibaba prices the cans around $0.60 - so it must be less than that if they can make a few dozen and ship them around the world for a profit.
I reached out to local packaging companies without luck. I looked for canneries within driving distance. Next I was planning on calling the local extension office, but it's not a common thing on my area (seems more common in Alaska to can fish).
The Mormon's are into can sealing, but they use #10. I could try them too. Homebrewers are starting to can beer at a reasonable price, but those are different and don't fit my sealer","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715520323065824.jpg","filename":"1000005519.jpg"},"posted":1715520323},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2731236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729425
First thing to expire is late 2026, the flour, I figure it'll last longer than that in the good storage conditions but once it nears expiration I'll take it out and start using it and replace with a new batch.
>>2729507
I found some instant coffee in cans that lasts for 3 years in normal storage conditions. If coffee gets rationed/stops coming I don't think people will give a shit if its shitty instant coffee
>>2729928
The sugar and salt is my least concern, they're in a dark cool place in airtight containers with de-moisturizing silica gel in them. It'll basically last forever","attachment":null,"posted":1715538557},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2731288,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729805
>But a financial dip (not 99% unemployment) is much more likely.
On one hand, yeah, financial crises are absolutely more likely than many other emergencies and probably the first thing most people should be prepping for. On the other hand, surely everyone already has financial security as a goal? Like, if you tell someone they should pay down their debt and have enough savings to ride out an illness or period of unemployment, aren't most people just going to say "yeah, I'm fucking trying". Maybe some people need the reminder.
And it's not like a sensible amount of preps will have any real impact on someone's finances ... you're more paying down a mortgage for the cost of water filter, a first aid kit and a few dozen pounds of rice.","attachment":null,"posted":1715547526},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2732445,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729691
this, my retirement is on track, house will be paid off in around 7 years. job security is better than average. I have a 12 month emergency fund. I have a couple guns and know how to use them. I could go 3 months without leaving for food, water, or fuel. If you camp and have a couple key items like a battery bank and solar you're pretty much set.
people think they're going to die from roaming zombie hoards. they're really going to die from bad water, mal nutrition and infected scrapes because they don't have first aid supplies.","attachment":null,"posted":1715811775},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2732449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731288
>surely everyone already has financial security as a goal?
nope. you'd be really surprised who shitty the average Americans personal finances are. like unbelievably bad. I work in finance. Half of people can't come up with 1000 dollars without putting it on credit. Half. Only about 20% are save more than 5% of their income a year. Financial shit hit the fan is coming for everyone. It might be an economic downturn or it might be nothing happening and getting to retirement age to find out social security means you're going to be eating nothing but rice and beans ever. a medical hiccup puts you into bankruptcy.
No bad debt (anything but a house) and an emergency fund should be priority number 2. The only thing more important than that is your health.","attachment":null,"posted":1715812667},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2733244,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732449
You work in finance, do you have any insight into why this is? Is it really that hard for a baseline normie to stay afloat financially, or is it because they get too much uber eats and shit?","attachment":null,"posted":1716040412},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2733383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733244
I'm not in finance but do earn six plural figures. My wife had cancer, my kids and their activities are expensive, and I had to plant my boomer parents in the ground after medical events. I spend on work attire, food and gas on myself, no hobbies except a library card. There isn't much leftover for retirement, I invest for my children. I have nightmares about waking up under a bridge I live under. I feel zero security despite frugality.","attachment":null,"posted":1716076617},{"board":"out","thread":2725771,"pid":2733429,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733244
The two big factors are not earning enough and spending on wasteful stupid stuff. If you're making 40, 60 or even 90k in some places there just isn't any more left over for anything anymore. Once you pay rent, car and home insurance, car payment, car expenses like gas, water, gas, internet, other utilities, a cell phone bill and couple nice to have like netflix there's just nothing left. Never mind things like surprise medical problems. Some of those income levels spend reasonably on food and don't eat out all the time. This wasn't the case until the last few years of inflation. Prior to 2021-2022 if you tried a little bit you used to be able to live a middle class life in most of the US and also save for retirement and cover emergencies. That's just not true today people making at or below median income which is about 75k.
Otherwise it's wasteful spending. The two biggest ones I see are houses and cars people can't afford. People "think oh the luxury car payment is only 250 dollars a month! I can do that!" Then they get it and realize it's a 120 month loan instead of a 60, that insurance costs 100 bucks a month more, that an oil change is triple the cost, that tires are double as much and that trivial 1000 dollar repairs on most common cars are 3 to 10x as much.
Then all the stuff you said, food is another big one, we call it as wasteful discretionary spending.
I don't agree with cutting your life to nothing to save money and retire early, but I do think the world would be a much happier place if most people would budget. My top recommendation is expense tracking and a budget. You don't even have to change what you're spending it on. Just know where it goes.
>>2733383
things like this do happen but is the exception not the rule. The way one of my mentors explained it to me the stanford marshmallow experiment. The vast majority of people choose immediate gratification over long term goals.","attachment":null,"posted":1716085414}]}
{"title":"Why is America ugly to Europeans?","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726418,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I heard Europeans find our forests to be woefully underdeveloped, our grasslands astonishingly mundane, our swamps horrifically useless, our plains ridiculously boring, our badlands pitifully impractical, our deserts outlandishly dangerous, our mountains hilariously unusable, and our canyons disgustingly red. Is this true?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714517410252415.jpg","filename":"Hunts_Mesa-Arizona-March_2010.jpg"},"posted":1714517410},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">2726418
here's a (you)","attachment":null,"posted":1714535772},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
Im a eurotard and an amerimutt so I can see slightly from both perspectives. Euros usually visit through cities and use them as a sort of area of viewing, what I mean by this is that they will mainly see the nature sights around the city, unless they want to go to some well known place like Mount Rushmore or the Grand Canyon. They do this because in Euroland the surroundings to cities tend to be beautiful even in post-bloc countries. Meanwhile in America you will rarely find an ounce of unmolested nature near city limits unless you live in the Appalachia or the Rockies. It's easy to see why they are usually disappointed, because in Europe beauty is easily accessible, while in America you most likely have to work to find it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714536010},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726534,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
Huge plains are certainly boringish, but what's worse are the fuckhuge cities built on those plains, fuckhuge squares, have to walk one kilometer to get to a grocery store. Everything is unnecessarily big in the US.
On spain everyone lives in apartments, and the first floor of each is used as a store so everything is close by. I dunno about euro nature but they seem to have a few more features than the US. The US does have larger swathes of wildland that is inaccessible, though they also have some very dick wooding practices.","attachment":null,"posted":1714536839},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726534
The plains were amazing before all thr bison, pronghorn, elk, wolves were driven off them and they built fences and planted trees and monocrop basedbeans and corn on them. The american plains were a tourist destination like going on safari in africa.","attachment":null,"posted":1714541656},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726545,"name":"europoor","msg":">>2726418
i love rocky red deserts","attachment":null,"posted":1714541727},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726547,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726534
>apartments
you don't want to live in those termite mounds unless you're a cityroach","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714542294316868.jpg","filename":"commieblocks.jpg"},"posted":1714542294},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726632,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726547
those are primarily in post-bloc countries. While I do hate apartments, the ones in western europe are far nicer than eastern europe","attachment":null,"posted":1714570385},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726649,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"USA /out/ings suck because there's not nearly enough tourist infrastructure even in national parks. Some awesome areas have literally 0 access trails. In Europe, accessibility is practically a human right.","attachment":null,"posted":1714572302},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726543
>basedbeans
What do they have based about them?","attachment":null,"posted":1714572685},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726657,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726547
I certainly don't, but much less I want people shitting up the beautiful countryside with more fucking retarded McMansions, farms and concrete slab industrial parks.","attachment":null,"posted":1714572851},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726661,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"bait thread
youre a faggot please die","attachment":null,"posted":1714573110},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726687,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726649
>keeping faggot tourists out is bad
????","attachment":null,"posted":1714579339},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726716,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726649
>not nearly enough tourist infrastructure even in national parks
like what?
>>2726649
>Some awesome areas have literally 0 access trails.
Where?","attachment":null,"posted":1714584891},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726716
>Where?
NTA, but actually a lot of the western US public lands do not have trails absolutely everywhere like people often think. There are lots of areas in Yellowstone and Grand Canyon that cannot be accessed except by going offtrail. Which is fine honestly and filters people. Offtrail is my favorite kind of hiking and exploring in FS and BLM land. NPS is also the smallest component of US public land. Euros and even many americans equate "national parks" with all public land, when in reality it makes up 3% of it in the US and is the worst kind in terms of regulations and access.","attachment":null,"posted":1714585410},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726720
>There are lots of areas in Yellowstone and Grand Canyon that cannot be accessed except by going offtrail
>3500 square miles
>1000 miles of hiking trails
>there aren't trails everywhere
c'mon. thats an assinine example. Do you really expect a trail in every single spot? wtf.","attachment":null,"posted":1714586436},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726729,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726727
I said I'm not that anon, and I don't agree with him. But you said where and I gave you an example. Most FS and BLM land would legally count as wilderness in Europe.","attachment":null,"posted":1714586627},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726729
>I gave you an example
but he said
>literally 0 access trails.
when there are trails all over Yellowstone and will give you "access" to where you want to go even if you have to bushwack to your final destination. It was just a shitty example thats all. Yes, I am sure there places on BLM lands where there much less infrastructure and trails but using Y/GT as an example was retarded.","attachment":null,"posted":1714587255},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726731
There are loads of places in GC and Yellowstone that filter people because of
physical access. The front country of Yellowstone and GC filters people actually, let alone the backcountry. Which is my point, I think it's a good thing however.","attachment":null,"posted":1714593986},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726775,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726767
>There are loads of places in GC and Yellowstone that filter people because of
physical access
Why? because they cant hike? its not like there are not trails at the very least nearby anywhere you would want to go. Do expect a trailhead every 1/4 mile or something?
>>2726767
>my point
except you replied to me when I was replying to that other anon. he said:
>0 access trails
which in relation to Yellowstone just isnt true","attachment":null,"posted":1714595026},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726780,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726775
Because the western US is huge (90% of the parks and public land are in the west) , has some of the roughest terrain in the country, also because the trail systems do not go to most geological features meaning most locations can only be reached by bushwacking or cross countrying, and because NPS regs often make it illegal to go offtrail in many areas.
Any one of these points above will filter people. The original anon complaining about access is a sheltered europoor or easterner so he got filtered before even going.","attachment":null,"posted":1714595317},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726797,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
>Is this true?
No. You've made this up for your bait thread.","attachment":null,"posted":1714596760},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726852,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
The canucks and aussies ive dealt with are captivated with boring plain birds and some were scared of fireflys, thinking they were some kind of swampgas monster","attachment":null,"posted":1714609156},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726961,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
Europeans destroyed there nature so anything naturally growing that wasn't artificially influenced by European hands and there regulations looks too disorganized for there tastes.","attachment":null,"posted":1714655194},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726962,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726961
Is it time for shitpost bumpin?","attachment":null,"posted":1714655294},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726980,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
I'm European and would never go to USA. Like 50% of you country is nature not for white men. Dessert, canyoinlands, etc. = not white. Maybe I'd do NE if I had to because the nature is properly european.","attachment":null,"posted":1714658017},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2726982,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726980
The most recent immigration of "white" man into Europe was from the steppes. The other half was from Asia minor and the middle east.","attachment":null,"posted":1714658175},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727053,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726632
those are in milan. t. lived in that latrine","attachment":null,"posted":1714664425},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727058,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726654
Super crop. Usable for tons of various food uses as well as industrial. Pretty based if you ask me.","attachment":null,"posted":1714665052},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727161,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
Europeans panic if they can't see a pub from where they're standing.","attachment":null,"posted":1714678604},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726980
good","attachment":null,"posted":1714678907},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726980
>t.cucked by his own skin color
kek","attachment":null,"posted":1714679665},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727197,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I never heard that and I don't care what europeens think about anything.","attachment":null,"posted":1714683745},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727313,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726980
Wrong. It's a white man's world so therefore all biomes are fair game","attachment":null,"posted":1714704457},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
Implying I give a shit about what a European thinks of the greatest country on earth. We already know we live rent free in their heads. Don’t bother replying. I won’t be back. Just seethe.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714704887646920.gif","filename":"IMG_2440.gif"},"posted":1714704887},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm just happy I need not worry about unexploded ordnance innawoods unlike in Europe, where you just never can tell when the ground might detonate under your feet and shred you. Also, Europe is fake and gay.","attachment":null,"posted":1714716489},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726529
So basically Euros cannot leave the city, got it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714717569},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714718481584864.jpg","filename":"trump_h8_bait.jpg"},"posted":1714718481},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727363,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Euroserfs' #1 criticism of America is that it isn't europe","attachment":null,"posted":1714719766},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727382,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727363
Whatever keeps them back in Europe.","attachment":null,"posted":1714725863},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727404,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
lack of tundra, simple as.
everything in usa is extreme or big in one way or another. but from what i know it lacks the simple and comfy nature that can be found in some parts of europe. not too hot, not too cold, not the most extreme mountains, not barren deserts, not dense forests, just rolling hills of tiny forest growth with lots of rivers and lakes.
also the laws and regulations you have scares me off, /out/ shouldnt be regulated.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714737894806536.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240503_140105.jpg"},"posted":1714737894},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727404
The lower 48 alone has 6,000 square miles of alpine and sub-alpine tundra biome characterized by actual arctic tundra species, including places as far south as 35N and as far east as the NE USA. If looking at the specific climate type known as sub-arctic, the land area goes up towards about 12,000 square miles in the lower 48. Alaska also has the most pristine arctic tundra in the world with Canada (which is less densely populated than even the lowest density oblast of Siberia).","attachment":null,"posted":1714740239},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727420
map of tundra. i live in it, my entire county us nothing but it.
no part of lover 48 usa is considered tundra and who the fuck drives for 5+ days to alaska and walks another 5+ days to see it?
did you know that the northern european/russian/asian tundra is the largest biome in the world? both by area and biological mass. beats amazonas, african jungle belt, america, everything.
and i live in it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714740695611348.png","filename":"map-tundra-aklavik.png"},"posted":1714740695},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727422,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727421
That map's wrong though. Look up "alpine tundra."","attachment":null,"posted":1714741015},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727423,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727421
Look at maps and pictures of alpine tundra in the lower 48. It even has species overlap with Alaskan and Canadian arctic tundra species, holdouts from the ice age when the arctic tundra biome extended into Mexico. The country with the most pristine and least densely populated tundra and arctic biomes in the world is actually Canada, the north geomagnetic pole used to be in southern Nunavut. To say the US doesn't have tundra (both arctic or alpine) is the peak of ignorance. Before the cataclysm, North America was also the center of arctic species diversity (4 mammoth species into Mexico).","attachment":null,"posted":1714741024},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727422
>>2727423
then show me the "american tundra" so i can debunk it right away.
it doesnt fuckin exist.","attachment":null,"posted":1714741236},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727425,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727424
>spoonfeed me or it doesn't exist
t. ignorant europoor as usual","attachment":null,"posted":1714741337},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727404
>not dense forests, just rolling hills of tiny forest growth with lots of rivers and lakes.
I feel bad for Europe. Not much old growth if any.","attachment":null,"posted":1714741478},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727431,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727425
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tundra
it appears to be commonly known that tundra doesnt exist in lower 48 usa, so if claim it does i say its up to you to prove it?","attachment":null,"posted":1714742178},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727434,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727431
The section alpine tundra literally has a photo from the lower 48 you dummy. You absolute goofball.","attachment":null,"posted":1714742482},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727434
>specific subsection alpine tundra
>yet no maps of tundra show usa
>no out poster, youtuber, or anyone else has ever posted a pic of the american tundra
you just dont know what it means.","attachment":null,"posted":1714743094},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727439,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727431
>>2727424
Just when you thought europoors couldn't get any more ignorant, a wildly delusional appears out of the mist. Your own picture of "tundra" is actually a mix of subalpine and alpine arctic tundra, subalpine (synonymous with "boreal") is defined as below the tree line with subarctic or even arctic climate types and species. Alpine, is specifically defined by being *above* the tree line, and many people conflate the two. In North America, the boreal forest and arctic alpine tundra species and biomes extend as far south as 35N. You can actually find more arctic species in alpine tundra in the lower 48 than you can in the Alps in Europe, as the Pleistocene glaciation tundra biomes extended 20 degrees of latitude farther south in America than it did in Europe, and with the melting of the glaciers during the cataclysm and the catastrophic warming to the present arctic species survived in alpine tundra and subalpine forest (boreal forest) in the western US.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714743467804800.jpg","filename":"alpine and subalpine tundra and boreal forest biomes from 6 western US states, all 11 western US states and at least 3 eastern US states have alpine tundra and or subarctic biomes.jpg"},"posted":1714743467},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727439
i was actually wrong, i was lost in translation and thinking of taiga not tundra. it still doesnt change anything, even taiga doesnt exist in lower 48 usa. one can just open google maps or even go there yourself to see that it doesnt.exist. if it does, please, i beg you, do me the favour and take a picture of it and prove me and every fuckin climate and nature scientists wrong. shurely YOU can redefine everything known to man, because trust me bro?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714744326634421.png","filename":"Taiga_ecoregion.png"},"posted":1714744326},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727446,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727440
Taiga is synonymous with boreal forest or subarctic or subalpine forest. They contain the same species. And btw, the 6,000 sq miles was *alpine* alone, NOT boreal/sub-alpine/taiga. If you wanted an area inventory of boreal forest in the lower 48 it's probably closer to 20,000 sq miles and would include large areas of the upper midwest and NE US as well as the western US.","attachment":null,"posted":1714745401},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727446
all thoose words...
>i like hiking in taiga and tundra.
>usa doesnt have taiga and tundra so i dont like hiking in usa.
why so butthurt? why the desperate need to redefine taiga and tundra so it includes usa? just accept you dont have it and move on. its not like it will give you lepracy, turn you gay, start ww3 or anything. so why the anger?","attachment":null,"posted":1714746265},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727451
>projecting
It is literally defined in the way I have stated. You can cope all you want it doesn't change the truth. You probably also are ignorant of the fact that the snowiest known places on Earth are in the lower 48 USA as well and in temperate latitude Japan. Or that the coldest places on Earth for their respective latitudes are in Tibet and the western and upper midwestern USA.","attachment":null,"posted":1714746522},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727454,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727452
i know perfectly well that this isnt the most extreme part of the world in any way, and i think i stated that in the initial post. who the fuck wants to go out in the most snowy, cold or extreme in any way biome? that being said siberia is cold af with temps down to -70c, northern scandics get -50 and west coast norway can get 5-10m++ of snow. there are actual glaciers there, they dont form from nothing.
none of this has anything to do with taiga/tundra.","attachment":null,"posted":1714747146},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727458,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727454
>lack of tundra, simple as
So now you backpedal huh. Lmao. Your original statement just exudes ignorance. First you move the goal from tundra to boreal forest, which is even more ignorant, and now you just resort to logical fallacies to save face. Pro-tip, the norther two of the four corners states hit -40C every winter, and parts of the states above them hit -45 to -50C, every single winter. And every lower 48 western US state averages more than 7m of annual snowfall, and 4 of them average more than 17m a *year*. Alaska is the one with the least actual on the ground sensors, but from satellites and air plane estimates flying over the Chugach mountains area of Alaska, 8m of snowfall in *one week* has been noted before.","attachment":null,"posted":1714747706},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
Because it's full of Americans.","attachment":null,"posted":1714748354},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727458
damn it what makes you think you can redefine the definitions of both taiga and tundra? those are pretty much set.
im gonna give you a few pics, if you can find an equal in usa then fuck it i will go there.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714748389081675.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240503_165401.jpg"},"posted":1714748389},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727465","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714748455978600.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240503_165522.jpg"},"posted":1714748455},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727466","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714748520853696.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240503_165600.jpg"},"posted":1714748520},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727470,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727465
>>2727466
You're just further burying yourself man, I'd recommend just stop posting. I know you're probably scandi or russian and lonesome but maybe take a minute to look something up before speaking. Scandinavia and Russia are beautiful, but they are not the only places in the world with boreal forest or alpine and subalpine environs, let alone cold or heavy snow.","attachment":null,"posted":1714748604},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727473,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727470
no, they are not. but they are the only accessible places with boreal and alpine nature right at your doorstep.
that mountain with tundra landscape on top of it?
cool, but we live in such tundra lanscape here. no need to climb a mountain to see it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714748933},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727473
Tens (probably hundreds) of thousands of Americans already live in boreal forest, in both mountains and on the Canadian shield and in the NE.","attachment":null,"posted":1714749479},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727491,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727484
pics please?
>boreal forest
have i ever mentioned that?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714750189540498.jpg","filename":"taiga-map.jpg"},"posted":1714750189},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727493,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727491
Again, Taiga is synonymous with boreal and subalpine forest in academic literature and in species specific biomes. And if you consider climate, the taiga climates vary extremely with location, for example taiga in parts of Alaska average almost as much or more rainfall as the boreal forests of the great lakes and NE. While parts of it in the actual arctic average the same precipitation as boreal subarctic/subalpine forests in Colorado.","attachment":null,"posted":1714750464},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727497,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727404
>just rolling hills of tiny forest growth with lots of rivers and lakes.
You mean like this? Where do you think this is?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714751076616931.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-03 at 9.43.30 AM.png"},"posted":1714751076},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727498,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727421
>no part of lover 48 usa is considered tundra
>then show me the "american tundra"
This is classified as sub-arctic alpine tundra","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714751175985540.jpg","filename":"IMG_7033.jpg"},"posted":1714751175},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727542,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727498
perfect example of whats not tundra. >>2727493
taiga has a clear defintion, just look it up.
why are you so butthurt that the defintions dont agree with you?","attachment":null,"posted":1714764337},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727542
>perfect example of whats not tundra
but is, in fact, classified as tundra. Its Alpine tundra. The pic in question is of large, treeless plateaus above 10k ft. composed of alpine tundra.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_tundra","attachment":null,"posted":1714766210},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727574,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727561
damn you are dumb, you just said it yourself
>alpine tundra
thats not tundra, thats alpine tundra.
and when i say i like to hike our tundra, cant you respect that? or do you have to force me to hike your alpine tundra because some websites said it was the same? its not the same to me, i see clear differences, i dont want your crappy alpine tundra, i want our actual tundra.
you would too if you ever got to experience it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714767867},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727574
>damn you are dumb
actually. You are the ignorant one.
In physical geography, tundra (/ˈtʌndrə, ˈtʊn-/) is a type of biome where tree growth is hindered by frigid temperatures and short growing seasons. The term is a Russian word adapted from Sámi languages.[2] There are three regions and associated types of tundra: Arctic tundra,[3] alpine tundra,[3] and Antarctic tundra.[4]
>noooo tundra can only be the version I like reeeeeeeeeee
please fuck off you absolute retard.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714769192532675.jpg","filename":"IMG_7032.jpg"},"posted":1714769192},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727583,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727581
>tundra/taiga is cleary defined
>can easily google it, it will give clear maps on its spread
>n-no thats Aachtlually wrong, there is tundra in my back yard...
dude this is getting silly.","attachment":null,"posted":1714770159},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727585,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727583
>cleary defined
>gave the definition already
>reeeing turning to cope
Tundra is defined as: tundra (/ˈtʌndrə, ˈtʊn-/) is a type of biome where tree growth is hindered by frigid temperatures and short growing seasons. The term is a Russian word adapted from Sámi languages.[2] There are three regions and associated types of tundra: Arctic tundra,[3] alpine tundra,[3] and Antarctic tundra.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tundra
What about that dont you understand?","attachment":null,"posted":1714770382},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727587,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727585
from your own link","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714770983696781.png","filename":"800px-Map-Tundra.png"},"posted":1714770983},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727588,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727587
>cuts off the part telling what the map is of
Yup neato. its a map of arctic tundra. It doesnt show alpine or antarctic tundra. Whats your point? You werent being disingenous were you? lol. Tundra exists in the lower 48 and no amount of bullshit from you changes that fact lol","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714771394805991.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-03 at 3.18.19 PM.png"},"posted":1714771394},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727589,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727588
>open browser
>google
>tundra map
it wont include lower 48 usa. why?
>open google maps, satelite view
>confirm it, usa doesnt have tundra, nordthern scandic is nothing but it","attachment":null,"posted":1714771856},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727589
Feel free to ignore the facts. You lost. put the booze down and go to bed sami.","attachment":null,"posted":1714772373},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>all
>TOONDRA","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714776950215091.jpg","filename":"soyguin.jpg"},"posted":1714776950},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727606
based","attachment":null,"posted":1714777349},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727641,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727404
Holy fuck stay in europe","attachment":null,"posted":1714786929},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
I'm a britbong myself and find American nature to be absolutely breathtaking. so much so that I'm planning a yearlong thru hike along the east coast at the moment. any recommendations on areas/towns/cities worth seeing?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714794349701928.jpg","filename":"1000000350.jpg"},"posted":1714794349},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727593
so where is the american tundra and taiga?
its not here","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714815063435562.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240504_111933.jpg"},"posted":1714815063},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727729,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727727
it is here, but thats not lower 48","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714815152218208.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240504_111503.jpg"},"posted":1714815152},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727730,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727729
and here, dont mind my camping and fishing hotspots...
so where exactly is the taiga/tundra you claim?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714815307178867.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240504_112145.jpg"},"posted":1714815307},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727732,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
>I heard eurofaggots
I stopped reading there. My country is larger and more diverse than 25 of their rainy cold shithole countries put together.","attachment":null,"posted":1714816501},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727732
This is the thing I don't get about Murica. You can go to the suburbs of any mid sized town in Washington (state), Nevada, Florida and Illinois and it will all look exactly the same, despite being in completely different biomes","attachment":null,"posted":1714816792},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727759,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727732
>my country is larger and more diverse than 25 of their rainy cold shithole countries put together.
>lives in NY
>claims superiority based on nature in alaska
>will never actually go there....","attachment":null,"posted":1714825876},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727785,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
They're right, Europe has more interesting terrain. Not to say USA is all boring, but Europe looks more beautiful imo.","attachment":null,"posted":1714830247},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2727883,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727727
>>2727729
>>2727730
I am unclear as to why you are so retarded. Please explain.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714843789643676.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-04 at 11.28.35 AM.png"},"posted":1714843789},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2728005,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727759
This is a retarded talking point. Americans are self centered but we are very transient in our own country. I have lived on the west coast, east, and in the south, and yes I also take vacations in the rockies and Alaska. Most Americans I know are the same.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714861926033316.jpg","filename":"IMG_1541.jpg"},"posted":1714861926},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2728676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
Euro here.
Thats so made up, I love america :3","attachment":null,"posted":1714977942},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2728795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
>Americans
>Europeans
White Americans are European, so I’m not sure where this is going","attachment":null,"posted":1715006205},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2728796,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727679
If you have a whole year and are sticking to the east coast, do the AT and spend the rest of your time near the part you liked best.","attachment":null,"posted":1715006415},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2728834,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728795
>White Americans are European
Really? You were born in Europe? When we say "European" we don't mean you. You may have ancestors from here but none of us would call you "European."","attachment":null,"posted":1715011187},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2728838,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727352
I mean, yeah. Look at satellite photos of Europe at night. Or a map showing railroad lines. European nature is very fragmented and has been heavily utilized for all sorts of purposes for millenia. We actually have real wilderness here in North America. In Europe it is very scarce.","attachment":null,"posted":1715011655},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2728846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727053
tell your experience in Milan bruv
t. Milanese","attachment":null,"posted":1715013762},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2729217,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728795
I’m gonna go ahead and add to what the other guy said by telling you you’re not American either. Simping to be euro, what a faggot you are.","attachment":null,"posted":1715089583},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2729319,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726543
Much of the plains are rangeland, you can't farm much on them
If you've driven through South Dakota and Wyoming, you'd know the difference","attachment":null,"posted":1715109970},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2729322,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727422
The Rockies are going to have Alpine Tundra","attachment":null,"posted":1715110276},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2729323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728834
You are one of those people who thinks africans and arabs are European just because they were born or naturalized there, aren't you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715110376},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2729562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
they dont think it is ugly but the ones that say that are just attention seekers","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715155682946592.jpg","filename":"image0.jpg"},"posted":1715155682},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2729566,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
This is the first time I ever heard this. I'd love to visit all those New England landscapes and experience those Age of Empires III new world aesthetics.
One day I will go, however I'm also very stingy and need to work up the courage to spend money on plane tickets lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715156180},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2729571,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728846
a grey, depressing, globalized, completely overrun by niggers, arabs, latrinos, chinksects, poojeets, instathots and white woke sjw studentesse di scienze politiche shithole
the Alps are lovely thou; you are so lucky to have them nearby. i regularly visit my parents in Quarto Oggiaro just to take day trips to the nearest mountains for free
t. entroterra sardo","attachment":null,"posted":1715156819},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2729579,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
Australian here. There are large desert areas of both our countries that are just shit. A place like Death Valley is unique and has interesting features, but most of it is a barren hellscape with very little life. Those interesting features are few and far between, it's incredibly exposed, everything is a muted dust colour, and it's dangerous, except not even in a fun way, just in the sense that you need to overprepare and overplan everything. The Nullarbor has the same problem.","attachment":null,"posted":1715161557},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2729658,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729571
tx, yeah I dont like Milan much although if you want to go out with ppl it's good, assuming you have ppl to go out with :), which I currently dont have.
but yes having the alps at 1/2/3h it's good, I imagine ppl living south that mostly cant do shit here, the appenines have some places, mostly to the center south, but the alps are way better
what do you do in sardinia? theres no jobs there","attachment":null,"posted":1715180406},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2729797,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729658
>with ppl
LOL
lmao even
why would anyone do that
i can't even imagine hiking with some other lazy cunt, expecially because i make my own weird routes, i go off trail, during workdays, nobody would do that
>the appenines have some places
highly recommend Ronco Scrivia, Borgo Val di Taro and surrounding mountains in late october. both have le train for milanese niggers like you to reach them
>what do you do in sardinia?
i live where my ancestor have lived for 3000 years. I kinda fell for the Sizzi etnonazionalismo meme, but mostly already had an empty house here and i was tired of seeing niggers everywhere anywhere every time
>theres no jobs there
jokes on you, everyone is benestante. literally everyone has a new car, restructured home 'n shit. even in my nowhere interior mountain village. in small villages if you have the right connections you can find every little job available with no effort, word spreads like fire.
add that rent doesn't exist because everyone inherits like 4 empty houses and 100000 land lots from grandparents, and everything else is cheap
btw i don't work, i study computer science remotely; the plan is to get a remote job so that i can keep living here with a milanese salary :^)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715197114036943.jpg","filename":"sardignanatzione.jpg"},"posted":1715197114},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731220,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729797
I meant going out in the sense of going for a drink etc, social stuff","attachment":null,"posted":1715535648},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731222,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729797
>everyone is benestante
doubt
>nepotism and family inheritance
I know but still theres plenty of people in the south and I dont believe everyone is set up like that, otherwise they wouldn't go to the north/try to get public jobs/get gibs (although the last 2 are also cultural)
how long did you live in Milan","attachment":null,"posted":1715535842},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731220
giving the board we are in, out definitely doesn't mean parties.
btw i noticed that young people in villages go out WAY MORE and are way more social for some reason. everytime i pass by the local bar everyone invite me at sitting with them at the table even if they don't know me at all. unthinkable in Lombardia
>>2731222
10 years (2011-2021). moved just in time to begin the 1° superiore there
>doubt
well there's a lot of dickheads, but if you work hard you succeed anywhere in the world
>otherwise they wouldn't go to the north/try to get public jobs/get gibs
they move because they don't want to milk the sheeps but sit their asses in an office. hollywood movies definitely popularized le american skyscraper office way of life rather than farming.
but most don't have qualifications to do that so they end up wageslaving in some capannone full of moroccans for not much more money, plus paying half of it in rent that as i said before in Sardinia doesn't exist. farm work is definitely harder thou","attachment":null,"posted":1715538946},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731753,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729323
They are European but not white. I have more in common with an Afro-German than a white American.","attachment":null,"posted":1715630277},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731755,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726418
Are you being ironic? Sarcastic?
Europe is not blessed with the same natural splendor as you have there. I won't say you take it for granted, but you really must realise how lucky you are.
The American politicians who enshrined your vast national parks into eternal legtimacy did a truly great thing for your population, and indeed for nature and mankind. They deserve their place on any monument that bears their names, that's for sure.","attachment":null,"posted":1715630546},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731753
>I have more in common with an Afro-German
Stop being foolish, man. You have inherent commonality with any white person on a political level (whether you accept that or not), whereas the "Afro-German" -- meaning a black guy who was either born or lives in germany -- has his own set of politics and circumstances, that will often put him at odds with you in a way that the white American simply is not.
Ask the "Afro-German" who he has more in common with, Bob Marley or you. He isn't identifying with your sense of self anywhere near as much as he would with any other black-faced human being.
I'm not trying to bring /pol/ to /out/, but you really need to get real. Your standard of living has been pillaged by people who espouse your sentimentalities, and here you are tooting your little horn haha.","attachment":null,"posted":1715630897},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731761
I married an afro-German and she's a nationalist. She doesn't care at all about reggae shit? Are you retarded? American whites do tho.","attachment":null,"posted":1715632150},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731781,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731770
Fine, but she is a minority and that's why you married her. We both know the general level of integration -- for me UK, you Germany -- and it is lacking to say the least. How was your latest race controversy? I'm sure the "Afro-Germans" really did a good job of respecting your sensibilities, right? They clambered all over our statues screaming oppression in their £100 shoes to much satisfaction, just not to the British population's.
I say all this as someone who almost married an African girl myself. She was apolitical and her identity was Christian, so she remained unmoved by such matters.
But again, to the average black person in Germany, you are less familliar on a historical/ideological level (which are often the primary decivers for "identity") than ANY other black person. They are a team, they act like they are on the same team, they are open about it and even encouraged to feel that way by our institutions/fashions. You on the other hand, are historically, culturally and racially in kinship with Americans -- despite 2 world wars even -- and that shouldn't be denied. Yes, the black guy knows what most of the different wursts are because he eats them whereas the American cannot and does not, but if you were put in an enclosed environment with various different races, you wouldn't be too shocked when the oil seporated from the water and surprise surprise you're surrounded by white people on all sides. These things exist, they matter, and they should not be denied.","attachment":null,"posted":1715632852},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727053
Il mio odio per milano aumenta ogni giorno sempre di più","attachment":null,"posted":1715635498},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731801,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731770
>I married an afro","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715635633657939.jpg","filename":"1490878815613.jpg"},"posted":1715635633},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731802,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731800
mi raccomando, rimani li e non venire in Val Vigezzo","attachment":null,"posted":1715635682},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731808,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731802
Non sai quanto tu sia fortunato","attachment":null,"posted":1715637027},{"board":"out","thread":2726418,"pid":2731824,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731761
>Bob Marley
Bob Marley had a white father in the british army.","attachment":null,"posted":1715641528}]}
{"title":"primitive rabbit hunting","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726559,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"theres a mountain about 3 kms away from where i live and there are always tons of rabbits there.
maybe im autistic or something but i think it would be really cool to try hunt them only using primitive tools/weapons (nothing more advanced than a bow, and thats already pushing it).
has anyone tried it? or tried rabbit hunting in general? im just looking to get a couple every few weeks or so, nothing too crazy","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714545630812666.png","filename":"dsfdsgfdg-1385415980.png"},"posted":1714545630},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726560,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You got a license, pal?","attachment":null,"posted":1714546897},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726560
i dont, and i have considered this. i think its fine ethically because there are literally no predators (australia) around there that will take care of them, also they do damage to native plants and the ecosystem in general. im also planning on just using sticks and rocks and maybe a slingshot so its not like they will catch me with an air rifle or anything","attachment":null,"posted":1714547078},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't think you will have much success with a bow and arrow or a slingshot. I just don't think you are skilled enough to hunt this way.
Your best bet will be traps.","attachment":null,"posted":1714547254},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726562
>skilled enough
im planning on practicing this, i just think it would be cool. i guess maybe it might be useful to save on a grocery bill but thats about it
>traps
yeah nah i think im fine. that would be too invasive and would probably get me in trouble","attachment":null,"posted":1714547837},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726559
just use an air gun. wanting to kill something in a "primitive" manner is simply sadistic when you have modern tools that allow you to instantly and humanely kill without causing suffering.","attachment":null,"posted":1714551482},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Find their hole, block off the other ends of it and start ripping it up with a stick until you get to them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714559175},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i did some more research, i think im just going to make a slingshot and some clay ammo (i have some steel flatbar that should be wide enough to do it pretty easily, and i already make pottery so its just a matter of making a mold for the ammo and firing them). ill practice for a while until i can hit a can from 15ish meters reasonably well and then give it a shot (literally lol)
next question is how are you supposed to get within 15 meters of a rabbit?
>>2726565
>air gun
no i dont have one and the licensing is a pain plus if im caught with it im going to be fucked harder than you could imagine
>sadistic
if i get a hit either it wont hurt the rabbit enough for me to not be able to chase it down or i will hurt it enough to run up to it and cut its throat with a knife. thats probably the best way i think
>>2726580
>Find their hole
anon im talking about real rabbits, not the bunny girls you jerk off to","attachment":null,"posted":1714560267},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726559
a bow will do the job fine
just practice for a while first, don't wanna winge your shot & peg the poor fuck","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714566714607307.png","filename":"56047859.png"},"posted":1714566714},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726586
>the licensing is a pain
What? I'm a eurocuck and don't need a license for them. All you have to do is show you're over 18. What country is like this?","attachment":null,"posted":1714567280},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726608
i said australia here (>>2726561)
i cant remember if it needed a license or just a police check to get one but either way its too much hassle. im just going to use a slingshot because i think it has more plausible deniability plus it would be more fun and if im drinking with an air rifle i think its a problem and im planning on drinking lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714568136},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726559
>>2726586
Primitive hunting takes a lot of skill and is much more difficult than hunting with modern gear. If you think you're just going to walk into the forest with a bow or slingshot and shoot a rabbit with no prior practice you're delusional. Take the time to develop your skills so that you can be sure you're hunting in an ethical manner and also not just wasting your time.","attachment":null,"posted":1714568317},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726619,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726613
>no prior practice
how much practice do you think youd need? and how close can you get before itll start to run?","attachment":null,"posted":1714568952},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726622,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726619
>how much practice do you think youd need?
For trad archery, I'd say at least 3-4 months of consistent target practice. You need to develop proper muscle memory and back strength. At least an hour twice a week until you can hit a rabbit sized target from 20 yards away consistently. Obviously more practice is better than less. Focus on consistency in form and not injuring yourself. Hitting a small plate sized target once every 3-4 shots isn't going to cut it.
I wouldn't usually shoot a rabbit from 20 yards since even a reasonably good shot will probably hit its stomach or leg or something, but you want to practice a bit outside your max range so that anything closer feels easy.
>and how close can you get before itll start to run?
Honestly depends on the rabbits in your area and how used to humans they are. Similar to ducks and squirrels. Some will let you walk right past them, but the further away from civilization you go (e.g. places you can legally hunt) the spookier they become. You'll figure that part out easily enough though.","attachment":null,"posted":1714569647},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726637,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726611
Sucks dude, but such is life with strange legislation. Over here you can legally own an air rifle with zero paperwork, but not a slingshot (somehow prohibited all around).","attachment":null,"posted":1714570800},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726619
In traditional archery, most deer are shot within 25 yards (at least, they were - those numbers are from a time when trad archery was still a bit more in fashion). You can extrapolate that to rabbits - you'll have to get pretty close. I'd say within ten yards, but I'm mostly a target (field/3d) archer, not a hunter. Note that it's not just "hitting your target", it's stalking to even get close enough and judging the distance correctly.
There are archery targets that can help you in this, specifically the ones that you can kick away some random distance each time you retrieve your arrows.
Godspeed anon. Enjoy.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714571711162389.jpg","filename":"RIN002.jpg"},"posted":1714571711},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726647,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726559
You can try using a Boomerang.
This has been done in many places.
All you need ist a good piece of Wood.
Be informed that hunting Boomerangs are different from fun Boomerangs.","attachment":null,"posted":1714572202},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726559
I've killed quite a few rabbits on traditional recurve bows. (I used to use wooden arrows, feather fletching, whole nine yards but the traditional arrowsreally are too much trouble).
Anyways, rabbits are fairly easy to hunt with a bow. They will just stand there and even if they run they often come back to where they came from. Don't bother with blunt points.
Be warned- killing animals with a traditional bow and arrow is relatibeky hard on the animal- they usually dont die right away. The good thing about rabbits is that they are so small it's sort of hard to wound them and then get away. You either miss or you disable them. Shooting a recurve etc. is more a of a feel type thing, you're just sighting the target and keeping the run of the arrow in your periphery. Rabbits are the best thing to practice on.
The problem with rabbits is that they are most common in the spring and summer but once it gets warm for a while they get warbles. So if you are eating them I only bother after the first frost.","attachment":null,"posted":1714577376},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726605
It's common to skewer a rabbit like that but why would you sit there and take pics of it instead of finishing the poor bastard off kek?
Also why is your point gone?","attachment":null,"posted":1714577527},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726644
Rabbits are the dunces of prey varmints. They will literally sit there and look at you within like 15 ft kek. Even if they run they will stop a dozen yards away and look again.
I'd say 90% of my rabbit kills were about 25ft. I disagree with alot of anons here, if you just walk through the woods with a bow and arrow, your odds of killing one aren't that terrible. Shooting traditional archery isn't that hard. I'd say a couple of months shooting for a 3-4 hours a week getting muscle memory and gaging distances and you'll be able to hit a volleyball sized target. After a year a grape fruit maybe (under 30 yards). You can't dial it in much more than that unless you get autistic over your arrows etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1714577778},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">get a ferret
>find rabbit burrow
>cover all entrances you can find with netting
>send ferret down
>???
>profit","attachment":null,"posted":1714580210},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726608
>What country is like this?
You're underestimating just how cucked the government in straya is. I think it's the only cuntry on earth where you need an actual firearm license to buy a fucking orbeez gun","attachment":null,"posted":1714581511},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726854,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726675
>It's common to skewer a rabbit like that but why would you sit there and take pics of it instead of finishing the poor bastard off kek?
it came from some news site, so ask whatever dumbass did that instead of me
>Also why is your point gone?
what do you mean?","attachment":null,"posted":1714609541},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726692
Ferrets are a plague, as are the people that own them","attachment":null,"posted":1714611335},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726860,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"primitive hunting is cool but it's advisable only if you already been shooting or hunting for years and have the training
set up a bottle cap or a spent shotgun shell, whatever distance you can hit it is the distance you should hunt. if you're under 25m, it's going to be pretty difficult, as rabbits are very skittish
honestly try getting an air rifle first, it should be enough challenge to satisfy you initially and then move into something more "difficult".","attachment":null,"posted":1714611750},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726865,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726637
probably its the concealment factor
>>2726644
>archery
im going to use a slingshot, ive already decided that and you would know if you read the thread
>>2726647
>Boomerang
kek im australian but im white, id get arrested for appropriating their culture probably
>hunting Boomerangs are different
yeah i saw a dude use one to take down a kangaroo once, its way bigger and weighs much more, pretty crazy stuff
>>2726673
>warbles
if this is some disease or something i googled it and couldnt find any in australia
>>2726676
>a couple of months shooting for a 3-4 hours a week getting muscle memory and gaging distances
im going to use a dartboard at first, i have an old one i can dig up, ill switch to empty beer cans pretty soon though i bet
>>2726699
>actual firearm license to buy a fucking orbeez gun
i think thats because they are also imitation firearms, and a license is much easier to get than a non australian would think
>>2726699
>cucked
true, but at least we are aware of it, look at burgerland and you know what i mean
>>2726860
probably you are right on all counts, but i cant be bothered really to get an air rifle and i also dont mind if i cant get anything at first. its not like im trying to feed a family with my slinging skills
theres a ton of disagreement on how skittish they are, i tried chasing them yesterday before i made the thread and i could get within about 15 meters before they started to run.
im also curious on their endurance, but i cant find anything online. is it possible to run after them until they get tired and then just swoop them up? or do they run into their hole first?","attachment":null,"posted":1714612751},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726867,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726865
damn laws are pretty fked up in australia, just been checking, you even need a loicence for a crossbow or a power-limited airgun.
i'd advice you to get a compound bow and then when you get bored of it move into something different, either a gun (air rifle or rimfire) or traditional bows.","attachment":null,"posted":1714613955},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726870,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726865
Bot flies or warbles are a fly that lay eggs that turns into a big subcutaneous grub thing. Not dangerous but nasty. Maybe you don't have them there.
Get an affordable recurve and start that way. Practice on a target first then start changing up the range every shot. It really isn't that hard. Watch some videos on technique and just figure out what works for you. Here rabbits are not very skittish. I'm not big on eating them tbqh but I like to practice tanning on their furs.","attachment":null,"posted":1714614711},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726867
>>2726870
jesus christ is a bow that much better than a slingshot? if i use a bow id have to buy it and buy arrows, and i dont like buying things. ill also have to carry it to the mountain and back each time on foot past probably a hundred houses and i cant imagine people will be happy with that (a slingshot can be pocketed, and rabbits can go under a jacket or in a bag or something)
>>2726870
>Bot flies
i checked again but i can only see things about horses, im planning on freezing any rabbits i get anyway just in case
>practice tanning on their furs
thats pretty cool, ever made anything with them?","attachment":null,"posted":1714621758},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726890
Asking if a bow is better than a slingshot is like asking if a gun is better than a bow. Slingshots are barely better than a blowgun","attachment":null,"posted":1714622435},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726899,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726891
i said much better, and a bow is better than a gun if you are looking to curve your shots downwards or if you care about how quiet it is, just like a slingshot is better than a bow if you care about walking while you are shooting or the reload speed or the weight/size/concealment bonus
i started on the slingshot a bit, but now i need to make dinner so ill finish it tomorrow probably, maybe ill post a picture but its just bent rebar basically","attachment":null,"posted":1714625579},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726586
>anon im talking about real rabbits, not the bunny girls you jerk off to
This is how you catch them dumbass. Even better of you have a spade. I grew up in Otago m8, I just shot them because I'm not an Australian I'm allowed a rifle, but this is how you do it.
Catch a fucken roo you pussy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714632004},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726913
>Catch a fucken roo
maybe if you catch a bald eagle first retard. it was a joke, just like i hope you were also joking (because its an idea only faggot burgers come up with)","attachment":null,"posted":1714637644},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726924,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726923
Kiwi. I'd catch a roo. Go catch a goddam Roo what the fuck are ya scared of, picking on little bunny rabbits.","attachment":null,"posted":1714638049},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726926,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726924
kek now i know why you didnt like the comment, you only jerk off to sheep holes","attachment":null,"posted":1714638304},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726937,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726865
>im going to use a slingshot, ive already decided that and you would know if you read the thread
Well fuck you too then, dickhead.","attachment":null,"posted":1714644242},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726939,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726926
Everybody does","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714645569075175.jpg","filename":"1.jpg"},"posted":1714645569},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726951,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726926
Can't argue with that","attachment":null,"posted":1714652655},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726899
You’re delusional","attachment":null,"posted":1714652809},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2726964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726899
>curve your shot downwards
What do you even mean by this kek?
But look a bow is obviously alot more quiet. You can also shoot it with relative imputiny as far as there being anything behind the target goes. Having said that, it is about 50x inferior to a firearm obviously if you are actually trying to kill something to eat. For me it is almost strictly sport though I dont have much desire to eat a rabbit. It is fun and rewarding to shoot something with a bow mostly- but it is hard on the animal and some people have certain sensibilities that make this aspect repulsive to them.
>>2726890
I didn't realize you'd be walking around d inhabited places with it kek.
And no I don't do a whole lot with them. Throw them over the back of a chair or set lamps on them etc. that sort of thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1714655297},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727295,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726937
why would you even post this?
>>2726952
im not, the point was that different things have different uses, a battleship railgun is 5000x better than a firearm, are you going to use that to hunt rabbits?
>>2726964
>What do you even mean by this kek?
i didnt word it right, and my dinner was on the stove so i needed to be quick typing it.
you know how in those old roman documentaries how they get their shields up because arrows are shot into the air and then they come down? you cant do that with a gun. it was the first thing that came to my head really
>if you are actually trying to kill something to eat
this isnt the goal, and if it was i would use traps. its more for fun that might have a reward if i hit a shot. that being said maybe it would be cool to go /out/ with just a slingshot and a loincloth eating raw rabbits
>you'd be walking around d inhabited places
yeah the spot i thought would be great is ~200m from a walking trail, its the kind of mountain that people walk up in the morning or after work or with their kids","attachment":null,"posted":1714700089},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727315,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727295
>im not delusional
>i think i can shoot a rabbit by raining arrows onto them like a line of bowmen against a shield formation","attachment":null,"posted":1714704615},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727329,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727315
i never said that retard, and besides, thats probably more realistic than illegally bringing an illegal firearm to illegally hunt rabbits a hundred meters away from a family trying to go out for a walk
picrel is slingshot, im going to go out and get elastic from somewhere and tie it down and then adjust the forks a bit. its rebar bent with a sledgehammer with a brick used as an anvil, its not supposed to be pretty","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714707117056586.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240503_132555_546.jpg"},"posted":1714707117},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727329
You might be the dumbest /out/ poster of all time.","attachment":null,"posted":1714707484},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727330
nothats,,,me.,dontell me howdumb iam!,
,,ivegotestsand stuff to Proveit!,
,,,,,villagediot is tuffwork,,get whatyou CAN!
>>2727329
youcant,,just MAKE a slingshot!,thats millions of years of tech apropreation,,giveit back.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714708423150270.jpg","filename":"cardie.jpg"},"posted":1714708423},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727335,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"slingshots aren't primative because you need an elastic rubber. a sling (picrel) would be primative, a bow is primative, a spear is primative, a rabbit stick/boomarang is primative, throwing a rock really hard is primative, a slingshot is absolutely a modern invention
OP is just a gay retarded nogunz australian who's probably going to get arrested for being a stupid bitch","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714708702766361.jpg","filename":"519ec1a23d4a11f610153e2b71beff01.jpg"},"posted":1714708702},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727336,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727330
>>2727334
kek
>>2727335
i have a ficus elastica i can probably harvest to make latex, is that primitive enough for you?","attachment":null,"posted":1714709173},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727338,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727336
god OP if you aren't larping PLEASE send a photo","attachment":null,"posted":1714709658},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726559
use traps","attachment":null,"posted":1714791343},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727666,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727338
im not larping really, but i am joking (i hope no one thought that i would make my own elastic from scratch).
i have the plant though, 3 actually. picrel is my "desk" one, i also have a mother plant thats about 3 meters tall and a whore that i harvested latex from a few years ago to make a condom from (i thought it would be funny). i also waterproofed my hat with the leftover latex and its still waterproof to this day
>>2727654
nah i want to have fun with it, and i might end up catching someones toddler (which would be funny until i get arrested). i use traps carp fishing though and they work pretty well","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714792218548094.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240504_130313_665.jpg"},"posted":1714792218},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727667,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727666
impressed.,","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714792740456023.jpg","filename":"roundabout.jpg"},"posted":1714792740},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726676
>I disagree with alot of anons here, if you just walk through the woods with a bow and arrow, your odds of killing one aren't that terrible.
Where do you even find rabbits? I go hiking every weekend and I literally never see them. I've seen more moose than rabbits, no joke.","attachment":null,"posted":1714792915},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727684,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727668
Maybe its just a regional thing. If i wialk in the woods a few miles im guaranteed to see two or three. Usually in spring they are more common- they hang around in either grassy meadows or they bed-up in thickets and thick brush. Every one I've ever killed was in the evening time. After dark they are fairly active too you can shine their eyes and get fairly close to them. I keep a wide lane mowed back around a swamp maybe three widths of an 8ft mower (maybe about mile long total) and it doesn't get driven on much so it's just tall grass and I see them there pretty much every couple of days. My suspicion is that they are pretty much everywhere but I only tend to see them in meadows and grass because it would be hard to see them in the brush.
The funny thing is that I see more of them around the house than anywhere, there are a few areas outside the main yard where I just let the grass grow a little taller or let the sorrel and toadflax come in this time of year and there most evenings there will be three or four of them will just bouncing around out there in it like it's a spawn point on a vidya or something. I have a few big blueberry shrubs nearby that I think maybe they are attracted to.
In the last ten years or so the eagles have become so common that I figured they would eradicate them but it doesn't seem to have put a dent in them at all.","attachment":null,"posted":1714794987},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726559
From my understanding the best way to catch small game like this in a primitive way is with snare traps. Takes the sport out of it I suppose but hunting a rabbit with a bow or sling sounds like a nightmare. I've been sport shooting rabbits and typically you're shooting at them from 50ish yards. (They are invasive and wreck the native plants in the area I have done this so keep your ass cheeks unclenched) 50 yards is a long shot for a bow/sling and if you want to get closer you're either going to have to be extremely patient and stealthy, or shoot from the hip after scaring them up out of the brush. Fucking forget about a spear or other thrown projectiles.","attachment":null,"posted":1714803538},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726559
Rabbits were introduced and are invasive. Set snare everywhere and don't feel bad at all. Sure, use a bow or whatever but murder as many as you can m8.","attachment":null,"posted":1714840631},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727857,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727698
He seems to be in Australia--they're invasive there. He shouldn't sport hunt: he should sport genocide.","attachment":null,"posted":1714840730},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727867,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727857
Invasive species are a meme","attachment":null,"posted":1714841103},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727935,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727867
Your opinions are a meme.","attachment":null,"posted":1714851517},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2727952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727698
See my experience with rabbits is that they don't require any stalking or waiting. They are literally bozos of the animal world. You just walk through the woods, look for open grassy spots, catch a glimpse of their tails and then take your shot. They will alert on you and just sit there and look at you half the time. You'll probably be less than 30 yards from them alot of the time.","attachment":null,"posted":1714854921},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2728022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727867
That's exactly what an invasive species would say.","attachment":null,"posted":1714863175},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2728102,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727667
with what? i dont get it
>>2727668
>>2727684
certainly a regional thing, if you see moose its probably too cold for rabbits or something
>>2727684
>Every one I've ever killed was in the evening time
good info, thanks anon
>eagles have become so common that I figured they would eradicate them
rabbits breed like crazy, the thing limiting them most of the time is physical space, you could probably kill 50% of them every year or so and the population would still increase. eagles are also fairly territorial im pretty sure so its not like theres going to be 600 of them picking every rabbit off
>>2727698
>invasive and wreck the native plants in the area
yeah, im not worried about the ethics of it. if anything it would be more ethical to rid the country of them
>Fucking forget about a spear or other thrown projectiles
lol i did think about just chasing them with rocks, and i did one session of this when i first got the idea a week ago. maybe its doable but youd need to be an olympic cornhole/darts player probably
>>2727867
kek
anyone have any ideas of what would make a good band? i tried some thick rubber bands just now and i didnt really like it (i think they are too short, videos online show something with an absurd draw length)
im thinking of getting one of those exercise bands and folding it a few times to make it narrow","attachment":null,"posted":1714870469},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2728718,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You catch a roo yet cobba?","attachment":null,"posted":1714989307},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2728746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726611
not sure how it is in Australia but here in the states you don't hunt rabbit till after the first freeze because of parasites, look into your area","attachment":null,"posted":1714998721},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2728749,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726563
a snare trap is very low-key and super easy to make.","attachment":null,"posted":1714998885},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2728751,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726586
a can isn't running","attachment":null,"posted":1714998955},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2728755,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726890
the idea of someone having a problem with me carrying a bow as a burger is mind-boggling. people don't even look twice when private fire arms deals go down in grocery parking lots lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714999584},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2728770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728751
Once a rabbit runs- it's gone (sometimes they will stop and look though 15 or 20 yards later). The bigger issue with a bow etc. and target shooting is the distance issue. Target shooting is good for the mechanics of shooting, the release, muscle memory etc. But irl you aren't going to be shooting from a distance you've had multiple shots to adjust to. So you have to get a feel for distances so that you can be accurate on that first shot. Using a bow, what I've done with rabbits is that I just walk to what I feel is the zero distance (no drop, no rise) and take my shot from there even if I could get closer.
With rabbits I dont think there's much value in creeping up on it. I mean don't go stomping towards it or anything, but look the animal knows your there. It's more of a time thing with them. If you give it 2 minutes (while you are creepy crawling) you're going to miss the window every time. I see the rabbit, walk quietly and briskly to what I think is my preferred distance, and take the shot quickly. Tge rabbit is only going to sit there for like 20-30 seconds max.","attachment":null,"posted":1715002397},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2728772,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728770
Also, as a side note. If you scare a rabbit from where it's holed-up, it will usually come back to that spot alot quicker than you think. So if you think you scared it out of its den or whatever, then it's worth waiting a few minutes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715002561},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2729357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726608
australia, the most cucked country on eath. you know its illegal to toot your horn, or wave your arm out the window of a car there?","attachment":null,"posted":1715114266},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730059,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728718
no, and i have no plans to catch one anytime soon
>>2728746
i will, thanks anon
>>2728749
yes, i said this already. i use them fishing carp but i dont want to use them catching these rabbits, partly for the sport, partly for legal reasons and partly because there are children that run through the area im planning on going to
>>2728751
i have no idea what this means
>>2728755
yes maybe but im sure the stats of the mass slaughter of burger children in schools is also mind boggling so i dont think you can say much
>>2728770
>Target shooting is good for the mechanics of shooting, the release, muscle memory
im target shooting already, though using rocks instead of the end goal of clay (rocks dont break easily). im getting the hang of it faster than what anons here were leading me to believe
>feel for distances
yeah this is what im going to do next, planning on throwing half a dozen empty beer cans out in front of me and hitting them all in sucession without misses, thats the next level in my training
last paragraph is very good advice, thank you anon
>>2728772
>come back to that spot alot quicker than you think
maybe, ill see what works
>>2729357
you can do all those in australia, and can you really do them in burgerland? wont you get shot if you toot your horn too much? or if you wave at someone incorrectly? again youre the most cucked because you dont realise it
i got the resistance bands (15kg, probably will move up to 30kg when im really hunting) and they work all right. i rebent the forks to hold the bands better and filed/sanded down the rough edges and now its looking reasonably professional. i also had to redo the handle to make it more comfortable so really it might be better than a store bought one.
i have a dartboard ive been hitting with rocks and i can hit the middle reasonably often from about 10m away
maybe before this thread dies ill post a rabbit and ask for skinning/butchering advice","attachment":null,"posted":1715250374},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730075,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730059
>burger kids getting slayed in school=mind-boggling
Not really, dundee, since almost all have been psyop glowing bullshit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715254766},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730276,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I just see a shady duck
>I am not a crook","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715296032497791.png","filename":"1714545630812666.png"},"posted":1715296032},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730279,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726867
IIRC those Australian pussies even consider airsoft and gel blasters to be restricted weapons and they'll charge you for having them.","attachment":null,"posted":1715296394},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730279
op said in this thread that its because they are imitation firearms, which is fair enough i suppose","attachment":null,"posted":1715315437},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730378
No it isnt fair enough or at all. Dont just limply acquiesce in the face of tyranny.","attachment":null,"posted":1715318286},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726559
There's lots of videos on youtube of people taking rabbits with slingshots. It is not easy though, that is an understatement. They are fiddly things. To get close enough and to nail one with a slingshot is a pretty crafty undertaking, but at the same time a 10mm ball bearing from 2 pieces of rubber only stuns them dead, if that makes sense. It's not like a fatal wound, more like a direct impact that just knocks the life out of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ZjS_-JLDuPI","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715322163479238.jpg","filename":"wabbit.jpg"},"posted":1715322163},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730397
I read something once about medieval english peasants being restricted to a type of broadhead arrow that was basically a big cylinder like a cork on the end. They were restricted to it because it wasn't fatal to people or larger game (reserved for the nobility) but could kill rabbits with ease, without wounding and opening them up
pic related seems to be the modern equivalent but they seem rare. I wonder if there's one that works for crossbows","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715327752797698.jpg","filename":"rabbitarrow.jpg"},"posted":1715327752},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730425,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726890
I've shot rabbits that turned out to have bot flies. It's really nasty looking, but the larvae leave when the host is dead. If you just wait for them to crawl out, the meat will be fine, but of course the skin will be unusable.","attachment":null,"posted":1715335184},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727334
Hey, it's that guy! Haven't seen you post in ages.","attachment":null,"posted":1715335268},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730524,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730415
Blunt are used because broadheads will fuck up most of the small amount of meat and it's better to crush the ribcage entirely than skewer through it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715361322},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2730533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730524
In my opinion game blunts, even for rabbits, are not particularly effective. The only good thing about them is that they make it harder to damage or lose an arrow.","attachment":null,"posted":1715363110},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2732231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bump, I like this thread","attachment":null,"posted":1715762608},{"board":"out","thread":2726559,"pid":2732295,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726559
me and my brother used to hunt rabbits using 2 different methods when we were bored tweens.
the first method we would use is find a creek with a lot of bunny dropping and climb up into a tree with a big rock. then we would wait and when we saw a bunny we would drop the rock on it. worked pretty consitently but requires alot of waiting
we also would make long spears (~8 feet) and just really slowely approach the bunny until we were with arms reach plus the length of the spear. then we would take a big lunging step and stab out and down. this method takes some practice as you cant look directly at the bunny becuase our predator eyes make them run away and me and my brother could only be quiet enough when we were barefoot.
hope this helps anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715783625}]}
{"title":"American nature not worth it for Europeans","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726651,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Two of my hiking friends are going to the USA for two months leaving me alone for the summer without hiking friends. I don't get it. I am from the Netherlands, which yes is flat and boring but Europe is better than America for landscapes. Want mountains? Go to urals, Carpathians, Alps. Want canyons? Go to Greece, Turkey, and France. Want deserts? Visit Spain. Want grasslands? Visit the European plains. Want forests? Visit England, Germany, Baltics.
I have been told American plains and flatlands and grasslands are more interesting because the heat lightening and powerful storms are awesome. But so? So you're saying Europe cannot do awe inspiring stuff?
To me it's Americentrism. Like we all must go to America for nature. Europe has so much more and yes I know people will say america has areas of super sparse populations. Okay, so does Russia. So what? If you go into nature in germany or france it won't feel any different than Alaska or Montana besides the landscape.
In my view people should stay in europe because then our nature will be more accurately seen as as good as or even better than americas. America has mythologies around their natural areas which sadly causes europeans to think it is worth it to visit.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714572521995779.jpg","filename":"Agnieszka-Mank_National-Parks-Poland_1600px-1024x724.jpg"},"posted":1714572521},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I know this is probably a bait post because you said England has forests, but I have trees in my back yard taller than anything you could find in Europe. Only advantage to Europe is that in some cases your ancestors have been in that nature for thousands of years, but if you are going across the continent for purely nature exploration anyway you might as well come to America. Yes I would rather roam the Spanish countryside than see the southwest, but the southwest has more stunning desert","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714576369471551.jpg","filename":"77p.jpg"},"posted":1714576369},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726674,"name":"sage","msg":">Want forests? Visit England","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714577449666006.jpg","filename":"laughmme.jpg"},"posted":1714577449},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726651
>American nature not worth it for Europeans
Obviously, who the fuck wanna go to america when i have whole finland for myself","attachment":null,"posted":1714579153},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">If you go into nature in germany or france it won't feel any different than Alaska or Montana besides the landscape.
Bait, population density isn't even close.","attachment":null,"posted":1714579253},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726686,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726671
>>2726674
I mean, England does have some nice forests. But yeah, not many. If you want forests you should go to Germany, Poland, Scandinavia etc.
We chopped most of forests down in England, though the small patches of ancient woodland that are left are a delight to walk through, it's not exactly a reason to visit England by itself, only if you happened to be there for another reason already you could take a quick look.","attachment":null,"posted":1714579323},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726688,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726683
He didn't say the population density was the same? He said once you are there in nature, it doesn't feel any different.
If you are deep in a forest in a mountain and there is a town 15 miles away which you cannot see, vs 100 miles away, so what?","attachment":null,"posted":1714579474},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726688
Population density in wilderness isn't independent of the population of the surrounding area.","attachment":null,"posted":1714580304},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726719,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726694
The population density in the surrounding area determines the popularity of the park you will visit. If you want true seclusion with nature go to upper NW.","attachment":null,"posted":1714585168},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726651
Don't care about the thread, my country's in the OP!!!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714585694358523.jpg","filename":"1703586579696056.jpg"},"posted":1714585694},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2726930,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">In my view people should stay in europe
Based.","attachment":null,"posted":1714639416},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2727002,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726930
Yes. America sucks. Stay in Europe :)","attachment":null,"posted":1714660817},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2727056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726722
bober kurwa, ja pierdole","attachment":null,"posted":1714664817},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2727060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"youre a faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1714665263},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2727180,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726651
>Want deserts? Visit Spain.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714680798971977.gif","filename":"0538baa8906c2d064ed43d91887421bb.gif"},"posted":1714680798},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2729449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726651
real and based","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715129281340717.png","filename":"bc7.png"},"posted":1715129281},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2729455,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726651
OP, have you ever been to the USA?
or are you just bitching because now you're lonely because your friends are away?","attachment":null,"posted":1715129845},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2730133,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727180
flan is GOAT","attachment":null,"posted":1715266914},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2730204,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730133
desert ≠ dessert","attachment":null,"posted":1715281324},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2730249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726651
The problem with the US is euro trash has turned it into fucking gay ass Europe.
In every fucking thread,"why do burgers need guns?" because we are fucking slave yet, like you.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715292591165069.jpg","filename":"grizz.jpg"},"posted":1715292591},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2730250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Only some.dumb grass is always greener retard would visit this private property ranger jannie shithole knows as amermuttca. Enjoy retard I'll trade.","attachment":null,"posted":1715292863},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2730297,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730249
Yankee doodle went to town
Got raped by a nigger
Always brags about his guns
And never pulls the trigger.","attachment":null,"posted":1715299263},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2730311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726651
>Wigry National Park
So it was a national park this whole time and not a bike? Damn.
As an Euro, the main thing that seems cool about the American nature is the wilderness and remoteness of certain parts. Dude, there are probably plenty of places in Montana/Idaho/Alaska where there practically no people living permanently in a 50km radius. Good luck finding a place like that in anywhere in Europe.
What's cool about hiking in the US is that you have to prepare much more carefully when it comes to supplies and other things, especially in the winter, while in Europe you're an hour away from a fucking grocery store or supermarket, and that's the worst case scenario.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715302213769551.jpg","filename":"Romet_Wigry_3_in_Kraków_(1).jpg"},"posted":1715302213},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2730377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730297
this out I don't go to cities just town, not meany Niggers in a small town asswipe. Let me guess you never been out of a city?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715315370826720.jpg","filename":"shellbeach.jpg"},"posted":1715315370},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2732238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726671
maybe it's the photo but I live in Poland and they look about as tall as the treesin my backyard. I'll give you this tho - sudden winds a fwew years back took down 3/5 of them.","attachment":null,"posted":1715764561},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2732245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726688
Spoken like a eurofag who doesn't know any better","attachment":null,"posted":1715769442},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2732248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Europe has Red Deer, which is the most Deer of all Deer, they're pretty big but not Elk Big, they have the most Antler of all Antlers and have the coolest roars too.
Granted that Europe doesn't really have much true wild Red Deer population, that kinda takes away from it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715770233048924.jpg","filename":"images (6).jpg"},"posted":1715770233},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2732323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Yes America sucks dont come here","attachment":null,"posted":1715791159},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2732353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726651
>hiking in USA to see plains, mountains, canyons, deserts and forests
>just go, maybe watch out for bears
>hiking in Europe to see plains, mountains, canyons, deserts and forests
>lol, get a passport, learn local laws for every place you're visiting (as camping may be practically illegal) and learn at least 5 different languages first, then maybe we'll talk
y-yeah, europe sure is great bros","attachment":null,"posted":1715797476},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2732418,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732353
>get a passport
Is that even a problem in the US?
>learn local laws for every place you're visiting (as camping may be practically illegal)
It's literally a google away. Just avoid the countries with nazi laws and expensive tickets (Germany, Austria and Switzerland) and you'll be fine. The entire Scandinavia has ultra liberal camping laws, same goes for most of Eastern Europe and the Balkans. Even if you get caught in some of the places where camping is illegal, they won't do anything.
Also, reminder, you can sleep anywhere if nobody sees you. Avoid very popular tourist destinations, do stealth camping, sleep under a tarp or a bivvy, also the authorities are usually much more friendly towards foreigners, unless you're from an "enemy" country.
>learn at least 5 different languages first
Every other person in Europe is at least communicative in English, and usually the authorities are fluent. No, you don't really need to learn any language, unless you're planning on moving there, but it's a whole nother story.","attachment":null,"posted":1715807809},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2732420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726651
Correct. Don't come here. Stay in your bug hive.","attachment":null,"posted":1715807909},{"board":"out","thread":2726651,"pid":2732425,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732353
>laws
LOL
lmao even","attachment":null,"posted":1715808482}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727014,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You have been abducted by aliens and they are telling You that you are going to be dropped onto an uninhabited planet with an Earthlike atmosphere and and an ecosystem identical to the pacific northwest.
they have given you a set of thrirteen empty boxes whose interiors is 1 foot tall 2 feet wide and 8 feet long, you may request anything you want for on the planet and you have a weight limit of 35 pounds each (not including the box itself) you will not be leaving the planet, no rescue is coming
One box will come with you the other 12 will arrive in six month intervals
What do you pack?
How do you pack it?
Which do you take with you initially?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714618625725093.jpg","filename":"pinkpantherseensomeshit.jpg"},"posted":1714618625},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’m gonna fuck an Ayy cougar","attachment":null,"posted":1714620970},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727016,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
that mountain lion looks like a fent head","attachment":null,"posted":1714623562},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727017,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
1911 and one bullet","attachment":null,"posted":1714623717},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
i have 4 questions before they drop me back on earth to fill the boxes.
#1: am i going to drop in shorts and a t-shirt, or can i drop in in combat gear? 1.1: if combat gear is a yes, can i fill the pockets and pouches?
#2 can i pick where i will be dropped at?
#3 will any other survivors ever be dropped to the same planet? madness has a higher chance of ending me then a damn bear-like creature.
#4 can i get a book or even pamphlet on what berries and plants are poisonous and what arnt?","attachment":null,"posted":1714625443},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727019,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
1x2x8ft size box and limited to 35 lbs? Gonna be packing fucking air I guess that’s like fuck all weight for that much volume","attachment":null,"posted":1714627087},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727020,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
>onto an uninhabited planet with an Earthlike atmosphere and and an ecosystem identical to the pacific northwest.
When you say identical I'm taking your word for it.
>Temperate year round, barely snows, abundant fish, shellfish, deer, rabbits, and no seriously dangerous wildlife.
>blackberries grow literally everywhere providing even more free food
Score, this is fucking ez mode. Assuming I get to keep the clothes I'm wearing right now.
to start we'll go with:
Stainless steel pot (5 lbs)
Ruger MkIV lite +4 magazines (2.5 lbs)
350 rounds .22lr (2.5 lbs)
2 tarps (1 lbs)
5 moraknives (1 lbs)
200 feet of paracord (1lbs)
2x folding saw (1 lbs)
2 large wool blankets (2 lbs)
potatoes (5 lbs)
seeds (squash, tomato, cabbage, onion, garlic, rosemary, dill) (1.5 lbs)
fishing line + hooks (1 lbs)
rubbing alcohol (1 lbs)
flashlight + fuckload of AA batteries (3 lbs)
waterproof jacket+change of clothes (3 lbs)
Gransfors Bruk scandinavian forest axe (2.5lbs)
1lbs of bic lighters
extra socks+underwear (1 lbs)
That is everything I "need" and then some. Potatoes will be cut up and planted when ready. Going to rely on fish and rabbit traps primarily for food to begin with, fishing line is primarily to make snares since actively fishing is a waste of time. Might take it up for fun though. Luckily I am familiar with essentially everything edible in the PNW and foraging won't be a problem at all.
Next box will be parts for a still and bottles. Have to be a little creative with the size limits but it'll work. We're going to make vodka, blackberry brandy, and so much more. After that will be my raifu, ammo, and a shitload of doujinshi so I can avoid raping a deer hopefully. More and more seeds of various plants I don't have yet as well as spare boots. Different varieties of potato. A few different styles of saw. Fertilized chicken eggs, probably around box 6.
The only shitty thing is no coffee. Way too labor intensive and it won't grow in this environment anyway.","attachment":null,"posted":1714629252},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727019
How small do you think 1' is eurofag?","attachment":null,"posted":1714629313},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
>1 foot tall 2 feet wide and 8 feet long 35 pounds
I don't understand anything about american units
However my superior Italian mind understand that the dimensions are quite limited.
Being an intelligent person, I understand that raw firepower can't fix everything. I will need to integrate or dominate a foreign society in order to live and not simply surviving.
For this reason I will have 7 female dwarves with ak 74u and mags in the boxes.
This decision is based on pragmatism, and not on fetish. (I don't like women)
1) The race needs to survive, and with 7 women I will have a good start
2)I need an army, a small, army
3)Being taller than the others, and the only male the natives will understand that i am the one in charge (also i will have a normal size ak 74)
4) Dwarves are usually less mentally ill than the averange person, their women don't have crazy standards and they are well grounded.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714629927787446.jpg","filename":"dwarfwoman1.jpg"},"posted":1714629927},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727023,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727021
Anon, that's 16 cubic feet. That amount of stacked Tupperware weighs several hundred pounds. Or dirt. Hell, I have a bag of extremely basic hand tools that's 12" x 24" x 12" and weighs more than 25 pounds. His weight requirements are fucking retarded for the given volume.
Also the PNW is very poorly-supplied with both accessible metals and flint, which is going to make things like basic hand tools and weapons incredibly hard to improvise, repair, or replace.","attachment":null,"posted":1714631045},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727024,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727022
>well grounded
also that's a pretty short list of demands, it'll be a small task for the aliens to fulfill but not sure if you'll be allowed to bring another living being though but surely they'll figure something out","attachment":null,"posted":1714631810},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727025,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727023
>Also the PNW is very poorly-supplied with both accessible metals and flint
oh no this region with extensive historic volcanic activity doesn't have readily accessible flint, whatever will you do? Pic related, the superior option dug up from my back yard.
>which is going to make things like basic hand tools and weapons incredibly hard to improvise, repair, or replace.
You have 12 shipments of tools to choose from though.
>accessible metals
it's not like you're going to be setting up an industrial steel plant, are you? PNW has ample bog iron which is one of the easiest kinds to process in a primitive manner. Do you really plan on fucking mining, solo?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714632465772401.jpg","filename":"heckler and rock.jpg"},"posted":1714632465},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
But i'm not abducted by aliens???","attachment":null,"posted":1714632733},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727027,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
>let me tell you all about that blue-haired faggot calling himself "Maverick"","attachment":null,"posted":1714634087},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727028,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
12 boxes of 35lbs plates and 1box of collapsible weightlifting bar","attachment":null,"posted":1714634306},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
>an ecosystem identical to the pacific northwest.
A P90","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714636084231463.jpg","filename":"Oneill.jpg"},"posted":1714636084},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727030,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Fucking arirals and their pranks, I sweat to god!
Ok, once I stole their purple melon-pumpkin thing from their picnic, but that doesn't mean they get to harrass me to no end. I thought they had abandoned it, I didn't know they were watching me in stealth-suits.
They already spray-painted my house and threw rocks at my window.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714644468102292.png","filename":"ariral-art.png"},"posted":1714644468},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727031,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
>you may request anything you want
Matter replicator/recycler
I'll either end up building my own fetish holodeck or a space ship to leave this dump.","attachment":null,"posted":1714644741},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
rate my setup
a selection of curated seeds (i already have a compendium of 75 seeds irl)
books on survival & crafting that'd be able to be done anywhere, as in stone tools, shelters, traps, baskets, etc
some books for entertainment
a bible
some titanium camping cookwear
some enameled cast iron cookwear
a set of clothes that would cover each season
some axes & knives
a singlejack & a sledge hammer
a titanium spear & a couple extra heads
some firestarting kits
some titanium poles
tarps
a fuckload of 550cord
some titanium animal traps
some titanium fish traps
1 Savage A22 Takedown rifle & 3000rd of 22lr
1 scout rifle & 1000rd of .308
a 22lr rifle cleaning kit & a .308 rifle cleaning kit
a couple mirrors
some antibiotics & general medical supplies
vitamins
flashlight & batteries
and some rations
i'm assuming this set of things is probably cutting it close on weight, if not, just add more shit to the pile i guess
i'd also have to see the stuff in person to actually pack it by what is needed from short term to long term
the crate i'll take down with me will have some clothes, an axe, a knife, a firestarting kit, camping cookwear, the A22 with 400rds, a few rations, medical supplies, vitamins, the titanium poles & tarp to make a basic shelter, 550 cord, a fishtrap, a couple small animal traps, some seeds, a small mirror, and a flashlight with some batteries, i'm guessing that'd right at the max of 35lb
for the 2nd supply drop, i'd like it to be the .308 & 400rds of ammo, some more clothes, the two cleaning kits, some books, some seeds, and maybe a few other things like an enameled cast iron pot
i mostly just want the important stuff out of the way, that way i can be able to build a camp & learn the land
i imagine if i can make it past the first year, the 2nd will be much easier, though i'll most likely start getting quite malnourished, so during the 2nd i'd like to create a farm with some essential staple crops
i'l probably die by winter though","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714650867972779.jpg","filename":"8346266766.jpg"},"posted":1714650867},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727033,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727022
This is the autism I come here for","attachment":null,"posted":1714651017},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727034,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
OP, can these boxes contain living things?
>>2727032
>a selection of curated seeds
Could be useful if you have experience gardening. Do you?
>cookware
Why both cast iron and titanium? It's redundant, and given how precious weight is cast iron cookware seems very wasteful.
>slegehammer
useful, but man that weight cost....
The rest is fairly logical, but I'm seeing some really obvious shit you're missing: containers, a saw, binocs or similar, soap, salt, water purification methods (redundant, just like methods of starting fires) sewing supplies...","attachment":null,"posted":1714656001},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727035,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727034
>do you have experience gardening?
>he asks the seed collector
I would wager anon has fostered a sprout or two","attachment":null,"posted":1714656380},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
this guy works in a warehouse","attachment":null,"posted":1714656644},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
420 lbs of pregnant cats and rats. I may die but I'm ruining your planet's ecosystem along the way.","attachment":null,"posted":1714656836},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727035
anon, there's tons of "preppers" who have zero experience and just consoom things on a checklist. there are tons of companies pushing "survival seed kits", and lots of retards who buy them thinking they're all set for doomsday but in reality have no idea which of those seeds will grow in their area, when to plant, how deep to plant, etc. I didn't want to make assumptions, hence my question. Seeds are great to pack if you know how to plant them. If you don't then you need to learn before they become useful.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714656897452030.jpg","filename":"SeedArmorySurvivalGradeHeirloomSeedVaults-48_jpg_85.jpg"},"posted":1714656897},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727036
a Styrofoam warehouse maybe.
>>2727037
pigs and mosquitoes would be a lot better.","attachment":null,"posted":1714656972},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727039
Mosquitos is good but pigs are heavy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714657080},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727041,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727034
>Could be useful if you have experience gardening. Do you?
i do, and currently am
>Why both cast iron and titanium? It's redundant, and given how precious weight is cast iron cookware seems very wasteful.
the cast iron is for long term, and the titanium is for short term / travel, because imagine if you had to live the rest of your whole life cooking from a glorified tin can?
>useful, but man that weight cost....
i wouldn't want to use a axe as a hammer, its both dangerous & wasteful
though, thinking about it, i should have chosen a maul instead of a sledge hammer, more use
>The rest is fairly logical, but I'm seeing some really obvious shit you're missing: containers, a saw, binocs or similar, soap, salt, water purification methods (redundant, just like methods of starting fires) sewing supplies...
containers fits for the plants i have, bushel gourds will to the job
saws don't last forever, but i guess a few wouldn't hurt as they don't weigh much
binocs are give or take to me imho
soap is taken up by soapwort
water purification is taken up by boiling, but i guess some tablets & a canteen would be good
and i actually forgot to add sewing supplies, but i guess i could scrounge some from the medical supplies though
>>2727038
my collection started as a 50/50 of merely liking plants & "prepping" because fallout (the fps ones) was super interesting to me
so from like 2008 onward i've been making my own little list of seeds, though its not about prepping as much as it is about being self sufficient & eating healthy now
if you'd like, i can post the list in image form","attachment":null,"posted":1714657830},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727041
>because imagine if you had to live the rest of your whole life cooking from a glorified tin can?
I love cooking so that absolutely bothers me. And I love CI cookware. But it's just too damn heavy when you only get a very limited amount of weight to bring over.
>saws don't last forever,
No, but they're much more efficient than an axe for many tasks, and you can always bring a saw file so you can sharpen them. That kind of file is both tiny and lightweight.
>>2727041
>if you'd like, i can post the list in image form
I don't really care about the list, I just wanted to make sure you were learning to grow your seeds. The more you talk about making lists and the less you talk about actual gardening the more worried I get. But if youve been growing stuff since '08 you're on the right track.","attachment":null,"posted":1714658578},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727042
i'm mostly imagining after some years of living on the planet that i'd just devolve into a stoneage agrarian lifestyle (basically just an injun lol)
the few things i'd have that would be metal or plastic would merely be there for pure convenience, thats why i'd have a good solid cooking pot that'll last me a lifetime
though i'm more accustom to surviving in a desert environment, i imagine i could tough it out long enough to parse the books i'd have brought along
i think the biggest worry is disease more than anything else, i'm gonna be alone & if i get 1 bad fever or gangrene, i'm dead, theres just no helping it","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714659490207509.jpg","filename":"adze.jpg"},"posted":1714659490},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Op here im going to clarify some things after some thinking
Yes living things can be put in the boxes
I miss typed the box dimensions its suppoes to be 5 feet not 8( numpad fatfingers)
any volume not occupied by your chosen items will be stuffed with an edible non toxic and highly nutritious, filling, sweet and savory flavored and flammable packing material with anti depressant propeties
The packing material can be dissolved in water and smeared on wounds as a highly effective pain killer antibiotic and healing booster (halves healing time)
these properties only appear when its dissolved in boiling water
after the first year additional people will be dropped on the planet with the same terms, they are not guaranteed to be human, but are guaranteed to be team players
They will be dropped within 5 miles of your camp where ever it is and one person will arrive every two weeks for a year and then it will stop for 2 years start again for a year stop wait 4 years start for a year and then no more
The boxes will be delivered via being thrown out the back of a speeding dropship with a parachute and smoke device attachv8syed, within 5 miles of your camp
when all of the boxes have been delivered you may once request as much as you want as will fit inside a single stardard cargo container","attachment":null,"posted":1714664928},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727084,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727057
>after the first year additional people will be dropped on the planet with the same terms, they are not guaranteed to be human, but are guaranteed to be team players
>They will be dropped within 5 miles of your camp where ever it is and one person will arrive every two weeks for a year and then it will stop for 2 years start again for a year stop wait 4 years start for a year and then no more
i am NOT coexisting with any damn spaceniggers
i change my first crate to have clothes, a camping kitchen set, a knife, a canteen, water purification tablets, an axe, a file, a tent, and a flashlight & batteries
and the second crate will contain an AR10 with 5000rd of .308, more batteries, and the seeds of kudzu, rosa multiflora, japanese barberry, and black locust
with the third crate being filled with a whole a 50/50 set of ticks & mosquitos
and after that, every other crate i have is filled with cobalt 60","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714667632090007.gif","filename":"ANGRY, ANGRY ABOUT ZENOS.gif"},"posted":1714667632},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727116,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I rape the aliens","attachment":null,"posted":1714673584},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727496,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Dead Thread","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714751003700681.png","filename":"RmRfSudo.png"},"posted":1714751003},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
hypothetically speaking could i bring a girlfriend
a girl would fit in the box","attachment":null,"posted":1714791633},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Initial Box (35 lbs):
Folding Tent (5 lbs): Provides immediate shelter.
Water Purification Tablets (1 lb): Makes water safe to drink.
First-Aid Kit (5 lbs): Essential for medical emergencies.
Multi-tool (2 lbs): Versatile tool for repairs and basic construction.
Fishing Line, Hooks, and Sinkers (2 lbs): Enables catching food.
Metal Pot (3 lbs): For cooking and boiling water.
Fire Starter Kit (2 lbs): Flint and steel or lighter for fire creation.
Seeds (5 lbs): Choose fast-growing vegetables and herbs for immediate planting.
Waterproof Notebook & Pencil (1 lb): For documentation and planning.
Box 2 (6 Months): Heavy-duty tarp, rope, saw, axe (shelter improvements & tool creation).
Box 3: Water filtration system, water storage containers (long-term water security).
Box 4: High-calorie, long-lasting food rations (emergency backup food supply).
Box 5: Books on survival skills, gardening, and local flora/fauna identification.
Box 6: Solar panels, battery pack, inverter (for basic electricity generation).
Box 7: Sewing kit, fabric, needles (clothing repair and shelter construction).
Box 8: Metalworking tools (hammer, anvil, small forge) (advanced tool creation).
Box 9: Seeds for fruit trees and grains (long-term food security).
Box 10 - 12: Livestock breeding pairs (chickens, rabbits) (sustainable food source).","attachment":null,"posted":1714799960},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2727980,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727022
Anon inadvertently creates the Squats from 40K.
What a fucking legend.","attachment":null,"posted":1714858721},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2728164,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727015
>>2727016
It’s a Puma","attachment":null,"posted":1714878889},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2728589,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"8 changes of clothes two for each season
Hand axe and Hand drill
Sharpening stone
Topical antibiotic and painkiller
Sewing kit
Canvas tent and wood stove
a 357 revolver 2 speedloaders and a sack of loose rounds","attachment":null,"posted":1714960942},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2728781,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727057
this makes things more interesting, not having to worry about meds or immediate food supplies.","attachment":null,"posted":1715003816},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2728915,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
Box 1: Your average well-made survival kit, we all know what goes here. But with extra stuff
>blackpowder flintlock rifles
>Civil war Minie balls
>Blackpowder
Box 2: Preindustrial construction tools and chemistry equipmemt. More BP and balls.
Box 3: Books on every technology from prehistory to industrial era. Especially chemistry, metallurgy, and ore identification. Biology books too for local flora and fauna. More guns
Box 4: Minie ball molds, mining equipment, tongs, anvil, hammer, crucibles, etc.
Box 5: Seeds; corn, wheat, fruit, potatos, etc. More guns
Box 6-7: Animal husbandry. Fertilized chicken eggs for incubation, maybe rabbits if enough can be stuffed inside for a genetically stable populations
Box 8-9: A pair of small cute young girls with good genetics and fertility, they'll grow into strong women fit to take my dick and bear many children
Box 10-13: Equipment for an in vitro fertilization lab, solar and hydro powered. Human eggs and sperm from good genetic stock. Won't last long, but at least enough to start the population bomb a la Interstellar. I'm a biologist so I think I know what to do.
Thank you ayys for letting us humans start a new colony. My thought process is whatever is in the cargo hold of those 1600's colony ships like the Mayflower, stuff needed to start a self sustaining colony that can work on the tech tree from there using info from the books. (e.g. blackpowder will be synthesized in situ from nitrate rich rot, lead from mined galena). The lab will only need to last long enough until a genetically stable human population can sustain itself. The girls will be constantly pregnant from my seed or have female test tube embryos implanted in them. Then their daughters will be impregnated, then their granddaughters, etc. etc.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715025460960392.jpg","filename":"1695225472230318.jpg"},"posted":1715025460},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2728928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727057
In that case, I want my cargo container to be filled with a fuckton of frozen human embryos, a fully equipped in vitro lab, an ob-gyn clinic, and as many drugged sleeping fertile cute girls that can be inhumanely stacked inside.
I'll change my boxes 8-13 to have more colony-building supplies, livestock, seeds, equipment, etc. to increase chances of survival
>>2727084
>i am NOT coexisting with any damn spaceniggers
Hear hear. Humanity will outbreed the xeno scum","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715026811513839.jpg","filename":"1671060790284707.jpg"},"posted":1715026811},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2728936,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728928
>>2728915
P.S. I'll replace box 3 with a cute girl that suits my preferences. For the sake of my sanity, didnt think of the timescale of the whole operation spending years without human contact will suck. Bump the box of books down the queue. Send her in with reversible contraceptive implants so we can fuck all we want while we're busy setting things up. Then I'll put babies in her once the population bomb kicks off.","attachment":null,"posted":1715027509},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2729440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728589
Same as this guy
minus the meds
plus a laptop and solar panel
and a pair of well fitted clogs","attachment":null,"posted":1715127505},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2729888,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729440
Same as this guy but add an extra thick hunters blanket","attachment":null,"posted":1715209278},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2729895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
Chickens, basic hand tools, and a .22 rifle in the first load. Rest of the shipments will be 35lbs of .22 ammo and fucking air I guess.","attachment":null,"posted":1715210096},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2730317,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"First box
Rope Cloth Axe and handdrill
Other boxes idk ; its cave man time/","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715303045253569.jpg","filename":"Pioneer Log Homes Canada Handcrafted Custom Log Cabins Log Homes Canada & USA Timber Frame Homes Log Home Builders USA Best Log Homes Company.jpg"},"posted":1715303045},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2731215,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"dead thread","attachment":null,"posted":1715534473},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2731228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
Crazy and proud answer: ask for nothing. There will be no negotiation with alien terrorists. I will die on the planet, reïncarnate, work and get eaten ad perpetuam and feed the world until they reïncarnate as my own and we form alliances on our own terms. Then when the aliens come again and take one of us away, we'll have the compounded knowledge in our souls for starting again on a different, maybe harder planet, and the aliens will be not scary, but mere intergalactic taxi drivers. Maybe they'll even think 'We're proud of you, human. Bazinga-zonga.' Survival of the spirit is more important than bodily survival. A broken spirit will never survive, but a cripple can survive if it has spirit.
>t. Keyboard survivalist
Brb, going to feed my spirit","attachment":null,"posted":1715537150},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2731229,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731228
>doesn't have the drive to survive
>this is somehow a chad move because muh new age hippie thought pattern","attachment":null,"posted":1715537463},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2731239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731229
It's living on your feet or bending to aliens as emperors and accepting that they helped you get going, always being in debt. I'd rather live on my feet.","attachment":null,"posted":1715539115},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2731734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Schizoid thread","attachment":null,"posted":1715627995},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2732061,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731239
>all kinds of debt to all beings are to be avoided at all costs
you wrote this with your computer and uploaded it to the internet, dunce. you talk about "survival of the spirit" but your goal is to sit and rot. you are a hypocrite, and i believe your decisions are based in fear.","attachment":null,"posted":1715709868},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2732107,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731228
>There will be no negotiation with alien terrorists.
>>2731239
>accepting that they helped you get going, always being in debt
So which one is it, contrarian? Are they terrorists through their actions, or will you be in their debt through them?","attachment":null,"posted":1715722943},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2732116,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732107
not the anon your addressing, i do not see how these are contradictory statements
Also hes being unreasonable","attachment":null,"posted":1715723845},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2732219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732116
Imagine you're kidnapped. You're not "in debt" to your kidnappers if they feed you to keep you alive.","attachment":null,"posted":1715756502},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2732349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732219
i dont think he gets that","attachment":null,"posted":1715797172},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2732422,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
>box 1: 1 gun, a rifle (probably a lightweight .308 build), 3 mags for the rifle, 90 rounds for the rifle. lightest 1 person tent those alien fuckers can find on amazon (thats about 10lbs down).
Fill remainder with one lightweight nalgene waterbottle (refillable), one knife + edge straightener, one water filter, set of ultra lightweight insulating clothes, some lightweight footwear. remaining 5 lbs are filled with the highest calorie shelf-stable mush those alien bastards can whip up. one box of 200 matches to top off.
I should be able to live in the lightweight tent and hunt / scavenge for food with the gun / knife. Water is taken care of. the main purpose of the gun is because PNW has grizzlies, I am not gonna fuck with those.
box 2: 5lbs more of water purification crap. a pot, more filters, some matches. I can begin to move off of filter reliability and start to boil my own water. military style cot, tarp, down blankets. knife sharpener (the edge straightener will likely start to have diminishing returns at this point) and replacement knife.
with this I can set up a more all-seasons solution to living there.
box 3: fleshlight, basic supplies similar to box 2, except stuffing all the spare space with food to prepare for winter.
boxes 4-13: food","attachment":null,"posted":1715808122},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2732457,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727038
>80% of the vegs from those seeds have barely any calories
>only one corn type
>"survival"","attachment":null,"posted":1715814888},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2732463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"box 1 basically an alone loadout + some calories + .22 rifle
after that i'd have to think on order but i'd want survival, construction stuff, food production next
survival stuff, like a big metal pot, lots of paracord and rope, big fishing kit, tarps, several water filters + extra filters, lots of plastic bags to store things. lots of multi vitamin bottles.
then remainder of my summer / winter hiking stuff
construction equipment, screws nails, tools, saws to mill lumber.
5 books on both pre and post industrial technology.
6 pistol, rifle, ammo, optics
7 and 8 high calorie foods
9 seeds and farm equipment. foldable shovel, pickaxe
10 solar chargers and batteries
i think it'd be pretty easy if you got all 12 boxes each a week apart. 6 months i don't know there's a fairly decent chance you die early. if you could get to box 2 and 3 you'd be ok.","attachment":null,"posted":1715815868},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2733123,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Dead thread","attachment":null,"posted":1715994450},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2734526,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
Well fuck. Honestly I don't think humans would survive, so my goal would be to follow kinship altruism to its logical extreme and try and introduce as many earth species as possible.
I'm thinking grasses, ants, cockroaches, pigeons, black rats, english ivy, roach fish, zebra mussels etc. Just whatever has the best chance to survive. The more earthling DNA gets to propagate, the better :)","attachment":null,"posted":1716311061},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2734532,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734526
Oh, and if I can request anything I want to be in the crates, how about some of the planet's native species, infected with virulent and deadly plagues that will wipe out large parts of the native populations?","attachment":null,"posted":1716311618},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2734590,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727022
35lb is approximately 16kg. Sorry to rain on your parade, but your misunderstanding of the units of measurement that your people came up with has forced the aliens into giving you toddlers - at best.
Depending on your disposition, and what you meant by "I don't like women", you'll either be dismayed or overjoyed.","attachment":null,"posted":1716324901},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2734654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727022
Holy kek","attachment":null,"posted":1716345163},{"board":"out","thread":2727014,"pid":2734659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727014
1 shotgun and bullets, water purifier, sleeping bag, ropes, machete, knife, various vegetable seeds, lighter, nail clipper, fleshlight, penicillin and various medicines, metal pot, soap
2. Winter clothes, tent, sleeping bag, blankets, flash light, batteries, vitamins
3. Tool box, concrete, glass panels,
4. solar panel, a gaming laptop with 600 terabytes of porn stored in external drives, 600 terabytes of pc video games, 600 terabytes of farming, survival, hunting, cooking books,
5. New knife, another gun and more bullets, paper, notepads and pen and pencil filled to the brim
6 more soap and medicine, concrete, bullet proof glass pannels
7 more solar panels, concrete, glass pannels, vinyl wrappings
8 More vegetable seeds and medicine, fertilizer, spear gun, fishing gear
9. Replacement solar pannel, more batteries, replacement wires, replacement laptop
10. Various books with various pictures and diagrams. Filled to the brim
11. More vegetable seeds and fruit saplings, new machete, more bullets
12. The dog robot from boston dynamics
13. New laptop and more porn, more video games, vitamins, more solar panels, wires, lights, etc
My plan is to build a shelter in the first 6 month, get cozy and watch porn and play video games until death.","attachment":null,"posted":1716346545}]}
{"title":"Bivvy bags","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2726610,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone got any experience with bivvy bags? I'm looking into buying one on the cheaper end. There's tyvek ultralight bags, there's heavier ones, weight isn't a huge concern for me personally but I like light stuff if it's reasonably durable. Rain and mosquitoes are my primary concerns, I'd like a face cover of some kind","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714567550602061.jpg","filename":"1714513310686676.jpg"},"posted":1714567550},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2726623,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726610
>Anyone got any experience with bivvy bags?
Only tropical bags, which are basically bivies with some extra insulation and breathability.
The snugpak "jungle bag" sucks. Keeps the rain and theflies out, but because of that "put two together to make space for your nonexistens gf" gimmick they have, there's a 4cm gap between the two zippers that snakes or spiders can get in through. Not the kind of thing you want to figure out when you're in a tropical storm and a habu is searching for warmth...
The carinthia tropical bag is alright, and also waterproof enough for strong rain. Too warm for actual tropics, perfect for temperate climate and supposedly (haven't tried it yet) suitable for down to -40C with the Def4 inside it.
Personally, I wouldn't spend money on a classic (fully waterproof, non-insulated) bivy unless you're planning on going into a swamp or somewhere else where you might end up in a pool of water.","attachment":null,"posted":1714569676},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2726630,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726610
>starts raining
>confined to his bivvy
>have to just lie there
You didn’t think this through. They’re a meme.","attachment":null,"posted":1714570217},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2726831,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726610
I had the alpine something or another from outdoor research, but condensation was too much of a problem even with the fly down, so I returned it","attachment":null,"posted":1714603470},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2726889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726630
Jokes on you, I'm into that shit!","attachment":null,"posted":1714621664},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2726922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726623
You keep the tropen inside the def4.
I wouldn't recommend it down to -40, maybe -20-30 if the rest of your sleeping gear is good, but my personal experience is a bit off due to combining it with a FDF foam mat that only has a 2.0 R value.
-40 might work, but at that point you're surviving, not sleeping.","attachment":null,"posted":1714637553},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2726936,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726610
Rain is the entire fucking point of them. They are for cowboy camping. They are great if you don't feel like setting up a tent, check out a used military gore tek one I have one and it's great for basically everything. After 20 miles i simply don't feel like setting up a tent and can just instantly setup my sleep system mine also has a bug cover. Also it is king for setting up camp in slanted, cluttered, etc space.","attachment":null,"posted":1714643830},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2726950,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726630
I will crawl around the forest floor like a worm while it downpours on my bivvy bag and I am comfy and warm inside, and tentfags will seethe about it","attachment":null,"posted":1714651974},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2726956,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726950
Automod reminder: Please mark all spoilers for Denis' upcoming God Emperor of Dune.
I am a bot and this action was performed automatically.","attachment":null,"posted":1714654161},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2726957,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726610
I got one from a military surplus store and it's superb if a bit heavy/bulky. Perfect for uk weather","attachment":null,"posted":1714654830},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2727360,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726950
Oh, I am seething. And wearing fresh comfy changed clothes while it's pouring outside and sitting upright and stretching. Later I'm reading my book from an overhead light then sleeping in any configuration my body wants while my gear stays dry.
t. tent fag","attachment":null,"posted":1714719368},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2727711,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727360
Post a single image of you doing this. We all know you tentfags dont actually /out/.","attachment":null,"posted":1714808723},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2727738,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726922
>You keep the tropen inside the def4.
Why in that configuration? The Tropen is the bigger of the two, and the Def 4 fits rather tight on it's own already.","attachment":null,"posted":1714820270},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2727739,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727738
The manifacturer recommends as such.
Defence 4 has a water repellent finish, less volume might be better in such cold.
>>2726623
If you're referring to Cartinthia tropen, that's not a bivy, it's a sleeping bag with a mosquito net.
A bivouac sack is weatherproof and uninsulated.
>>2726922
What are some good, sanely priced mats for extreme cold?","attachment":null,"posted":1714820846},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2727740,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726630
You don't carry a poncho?","attachment":null,"posted":1714821003},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2727744,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727738
Keeping the Tropen outside is like wearing your baselayer outside of your hardshell.
The Tropen is a warm weather bag. It's less concerned with keeping out drafts and allows water vapor to easily travel through it. Keeping it inside the bag allows the Tropen to more effectively add to the insulation of the Defense 4.
The Defense 4 should be sized to fit the Tropen inside of it, so if it's too tight, then you ordered too small of a size or you're trying to bring too much stuff into the bag with you.","attachment":null,"posted":1714822004},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2727752,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727740
You have a choice between eating in the rain and not eating in the rain, and anyone who’s done both knows what the right choice is.
And how would you get from your bivy into your poncho if it’s raining in the morning?","attachment":null,"posted":1714822918},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2728969,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727740
They won’t keep you dry.
Or maybe they’re not waterproof. It’s a little confusing.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715032716071759.jpg","filename":"746496EF-2037-41C8-96D2-90A6CE10ECD6.jpg"},"posted":1715032716},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2728996,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728969
>thinking that ponchos keep people dry in 2020+4
>thinking that umbrellas stop rain in 2030-6
>thinking that the roof of your car will keep precipitation away in 1900+124
ngmi
ngmi","attachment":null,"posted":1715039230},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729005,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726630
>You didn’t think this through.
Nobody ever does, they're a fucking nightmare to sleep in, especially in the rain.
Can keep you less damp in a snowcave or tent in the rain, and keep you alive but uncomfortable if you're caught out in a storm.
But I'm sure that everyone that gets one thinking "this is my new home" only ever does it once.
I got mine for emergencies, and could count on one hand the number of trips it's been used on, none of them comfy.","attachment":null,"posted":1715040718},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729024,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"There is not a single reason to carry one of these shitty coffins. You can get good quality aliexpress tents that weigh half a bivvy for like 100 bucks and you can actually sit up, cook, move around, eat, read, won't get fucked up by condensation and get your sleeping bag damp.
>>2726630
Yeah, miserable.","attachment":null,"posted":1715044208},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728969
Aww, I see you had to run away to this thread to get support after getting BTFO'd in the other bivy thread.
It's not that confusing, you retarded anglos think the world is black and white, it's very simple, a poncho works as extra sheltering to help keep you dry, but it is *not* waterproof. It does *not* encase you, therefor it does *not* prevent splashback, and it obviously does *not* prevent streams from running into your sleeping spot during rain. A good tent or bivy thats true to their rating is waterproof within that rating. I tried to tell you this with the example between a drysack and a general backpack, but you were too retarded. Now leave this thread as well, and at least attempt to go outside.","attachment":null,"posted":1715123014},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729414
>ponchos aren’t waterproof
This is why no one listens to non-Americans","attachment":null,"posted":1715123133},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729414
>hurr durr btfod
That's all anyone needed to see you're retarded anon, you didn't have to keep typing","attachment":null,"posted":1715125451},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729430,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729415
Entirely depends on the poncho. Also nice strawman, faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715125847},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729431,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729427
Yeah, of course thats the furthest you managed to read.","attachment":null,"posted":1715125927},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729433,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729430
Don’t just say someone’s wrong. Prove he’s wrong; show us some non-waterproof ponchos.","attachment":null,"posted":1715126161},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729433
>prove he's
No, Im not spoonfeeding you, a redditor, pretending to not be that person when its so clearly you, because you have no experience with ponchos. You can take one look at some "waterproof" ponchos on amazon and check how many are actually waterproof. Even the ones that have waterproofing will have water coming through if they have the hood in the middle.","attachment":null,"posted":1715126720},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729435
>no I won't back up anything I say
Then your opinion is worthless and will be discarded accordingly","attachment":null,"posted":1715129798},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729435
>everyone is the same person!
No, there are a solid half dozen people letting you know how stupid you are. You’ll never live down that screen shot; it’s literally one of the dumbest things ever posted in /out/.","attachment":null,"posted":1715133749},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729495,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729024
There's no way a bivy isn't lighter and smaller than a tent if made out of the same material. It's impossible. That's the use case, a bivy is an emergency shelter that's light and small so if you don't end up using it, it's not so bad to carry.","attachment":null,"posted":1715135143},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729453
Yeah, except I did examplify it, so go back to plebbit now.
>>2729480
Ok, samefag. Run away again now.","attachment":null,"posted":1715146912},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729435
>there’s no such thing as a waterproof poncho
They all have “hoods in the middle”","attachment":null,"posted":1715166624},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729593
>they all have hoods in the middle
Don't know which one of you is the idiot, but that's not true.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715166888348981.jpg","filename":"479165f97e936e27f3.jpg"},"posted":1715166888},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729593
If they have a protruding hood with a solid neck like the MLD poncho, they can be rolled closed.without issue.","attachment":null,"posted":1715168476},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729601,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729594
This poncho is made out of a waterproof material, which as we’ve discussed =/= keeping you dry.","attachment":null,"posted":1715168647},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729603,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729599
The MLD poncho is made of 20d/1.2oz silnylon, most likely with a hydrostatic head test value of 3,000mm. Unfortunately it won’t keep you dry because this is a waterproof fabric.","attachment":null,"posted":1715169291},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729635,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729603
The trick is to use a material that is as far from waterproof as you can get. I go out in monsoon season wearing a DIY poncho of cheesecloth and cotton candy. I have never been wet.","attachment":null,"posted":1715175303},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729639,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729593
They do not, faggot, youre just in a circle of non innovative ponchos. Jerven, Helsport, Dovre, etc. do not have the retarded middle hood.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715176917076965.jpg","filename":"90342b461127c166aaa29c76afa6379d.jpg"},"posted":1715176917},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729639
Hahahahahha holy fucking shit hahahahahahahahaha!
I love everything about this!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715178550951449.jpg","filename":"FA7CFD75-6046-4CB2-B1A6-3749C7A409CA.jpg"},"posted":1715178550},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729651,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726610
There are cheap ass "bivvy" tents that have the same form but two poles to keep them off your body. I've used a cheap-o 3-season one from Amazon that worked just fine under a tree in the spring. But personally I wouldn't want a bivvy bag. Having your outer layer not kept off your body is a problem. It's just begging to wake up wet and covered in bug bites. If it's three seasons stuff you're doing, then whatever: you just want something between you and outside. But you need that something not to be touching you or it isn't offering you any real protection. The air between the covering and you is the protective environment that a tent is creating.","attachment":null,"posted":1715179610},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729665,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729601
>waterproof material
>=/= keeping you dry
Boy are you just confusing waterproof and water resistant? It's made out of treated canvas, keeps the weather out really well - firsthand experience. I gave some of the trouble spots on mine an extra beeswax coating. It's not waterproof. It's water repellent at best. It won't keep me dry in a torrential downpour.
I have no idea what argument you're trying to make. Sounds like you have no concept of the difference between water repellent/resistant/proof desu.","attachment":null,"posted":1715181484},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729642
Yeah, that functions as a poncho. Anything else? Did it blow your mind seeing innovation?","attachment":null,"posted":1715182026},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729669,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729665
Not that anon but it doesn't, though. Put on a waterproof poncho some time and go trudge through the cold rain. You'll be fucking soaked. The humidity, condensation and sweat will have you begging for a cool, refreshing rain.","attachment":null,"posted":1715182081},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729670,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729665
They do not, neverouts are braindead.","attachment":null,"posted":1715182087},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729665
No. It’s a direct quote. See screen grab posted here: >>2728969","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715182126276869.jpg","filename":"10085384-B333-4BA7-A4E9-071BA12EC946.jpg"},"posted":1715182126},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729669
>umbrellas aren’t waterproof
Got it","attachment":null,"posted":1715182248},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729673
An umbrella is much better for keeping you dry than a poncho, most of the time. There are situations when you need a rain poncho. Specifically blowing rain, when you'd rather endure the condensation and sweat than sideways water spraying you all over. But a light rain? I'll take an umbrella and stay much drier than a poncho 90% of the time. But waterproof material don't keep you dry anon. They prevent water from directly crossing a specific boundary but, unless you're wearing a full body-condom and have figure out how not to breath or perspire, rain isn't the only source of moisture on planet Earth.","attachment":null,"posted":1715182427},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729669
>>2729670
Are you two near the equator or something? I've got a fully waterproof hunting set - coat and pants. Don't break a sweat in them (and no, no stationary hunting).","attachment":null,"posted":1715182654},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729677
Well at the moment I'm in Florida, so yeah. But I've got a hard vinyl winter coat rated for -30 that I wear in Canada. It's great for sitting around at camp but if I get up to anything for an hour or more? I've straight taken that thing off at -11 and stripped down to my t-shirt because it gets so fucking hot and sweaty.","attachment":null,"posted":1715182758},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729677
Fat people have been known to sweat in ponchos despite them being the most ventilated, least insulated option.","attachment":null,"posted":1715183821},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729677
No, im in the north european region. Sweating has a lot to do with genetics if we dont consider obvious factors like being a fat fuck in general. It also depends on your pace. But you generally have to vent goretex clothing depending on outside temps, where this becomes an issue is in warmer climate where you're probably better off just getting soaked by the rain.","attachment":null,"posted":1715183848},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729689,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729683
Also active people. Do you guys have some magical charms to ward off sweating when you are active? You understand that the reason it makes you thirsty is 'cuz your body has lost water, right? Where do you think the water went? It evaporated off your skin. If you're covered in waterproof material, it has no where to go. That's why the inside of your tent is wet in the morning (well, part of the reason).","attachment":null,"posted":1715184303},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729700,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729671
Still have no idea what you're on about, anon. Sorry.","attachment":null,"posted":1715184972},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729701,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729689
>Do you guys have some magical charms to ward off sweating when you are active?
The cold, and not wearing many layers in summer. Or are you covering yourself in plastics during the height of summer, and blaming the plastics?","attachment":null,"posted":1715185034},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729704,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729689
>Do you guys have some magical charms to ward off sweating when you are active?
Yes. It’s called not being an enormous fat fuck and getting regular exercise. Have you ever heard the expression “without breaking a sweat?” It’s easier when it’s cold outside.
>You understand that the reason it makes you thirsty is 'cuz your body has lost water, right? Where do you think the water went?
Digestive system mostly, used for muscle function and digestion, but also the circulatory system.
>It evaporated off your skin.
Do you ever not sweat? What happens to the Mountain Dew you drank?","attachment":null,"posted":1715185073},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729701
The entire conversation was about bivies and how they’re basically condensation traps. Some regard claimed they’re not designed to keep you dry. Some other retard pointed out that they’re made out of water to material, so they must be designed to keep you dry. Another retard claimed that things made from waterproof material aren’t necessarily designed to keep you dry, which is some king retard shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715185255},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729709
Thanks for the summary anon, but the guy I responded to there was talking about sweating from being active. I now do have the mental image of him jumping around the woods in his bivvy, which I think is the best thing to come out of this thread yet. All the horseshit about the items designed to keep you dry "not keeping you dry" (i.e. not keeping you -bone- dry) because "oh no I breathe and sweat a little" is also hilarious.","attachment":null,"posted":1715185480},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729718,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729668
Yeah but it’s waterproof, so it designed to keep you dry?","attachment":null,"posted":1715186049},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729779,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729718
Where does it say so?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715193369441478.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240508_203505_Chrome.jpg"},"posted":1715193369},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729801,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729779
“Unexpected weather”
“Protection from the elements”
>ahh, but it doesn’t say “waterproof!”
Pic rel","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715197563021696.jpg","filename":"4AA380D2-BF60-4AD7-8F29-4A5213C335D8.jpg"},"posted":1715197563},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729818,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729801
Excatly, it doesnt say waterproof, you did it! You figured it out!","attachment":null,"posted":1715199222},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729832,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729818
What did they mean by this?
>5000mm
What is that?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715201301600061.jpg","filename":"E12B6934-55B6-490D-A745-BBA7D447242F.jpg"},"posted":1715201301},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729906,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729832
Ahh, I see you need another lesson. Thats the amount of water it would take before the fabric would begin to let water through.","attachment":null,"posted":1715213932},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729926,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729906
Why would they list the HH test value? Inb4 5000mm isn’t waterproof.","attachment":null,"posted":1715217055},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729926
To give a general idea as to how much rain it can be exposed to before leaking through.","attachment":null,"posted":1715217744},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729932,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729931
>no shelters are waterproof
You’re a child","attachment":null,"posted":1715217891},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729934,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729926
Because it’s a waterproof material. The other Anon is literally retarded.
>b-but it will wet out.
Shut up, fag.","attachment":null,"posted":1715218465},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2729953,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729934
Every time I see someone unironically say "it will wet out" I get an uneasy feeling that they're a piss fetishist looking for an excuse
>a-whoopsie, it looks like my sleeping bag """wetted out""" again
>wink
>slurp","attachment":null,"posted":1715222970},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729932
Never said this, learn to read, nigger","attachment":null,"posted":1715238116},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730064,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729953
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but that doesn’t mean 5,000mm fabrics aren’t waterproof. People usually mention wetting out with reference to waterproof-breathable jackets, when osmosis stops due to saturation.
>>2729642
Wrapped completely in a waterproof material, but his head is exposed so he’ll need another tarp. So why have a completely waterproof bivy in the first place?","attachment":null,"posted":1715252552},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730072,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730064
>Wrapped completely in a waterproof material, but his head is exposed so he’ll need another tarp. So why have a completely waterproof bivy in the first place?
To protect from dew and splashback. But this is also why a bivy like that is intended to keep you dry, but isnt waterproof","attachment":null,"posted":1715253930},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730088,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730064
It’s Europeans being European (aka retarded). $270 for a silnylon tarp is laughable.","attachment":null,"posted":1715258828},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730064
>Wrapped completely in a waterproof material, but his head is exposed so he’ll need another tarp. So why have a completely waterproof bivy in the first place?
The Jerven bags and similar are mostly for hunting/shooting LARP activities where you remain stationary for a long time. Their design as a bivvy/tarp/poncho seems a bit more secondary to the goal of being a jack of all trades.","attachment":null,"posted":1715259796},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730116,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730088
The x-trem is insulated with primaloft you braindead moron, it's not comparable to the bare ponchos you find on amazon. Jesus christ, try to use your brain.","attachment":null,"posted":1715263573},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730145,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730116
>insulated shelter
Europeans are a laugh riot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715270355},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730155,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730145
They are quite literally stalking bags for when you're waiting for deer or female joggers.
They aren't really for regular camping.","attachment":null,"posted":1715272228},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730221,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730145
Neverouts at it again. Its an incredible popular product with hunters and people that want extra warmt for their sleeping bag. Please just stop talking, youve exposed yourself time and time again as a fool.","attachment":null,"posted":1715285788},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730221
But not in the rain, because it’s made of waterproof material, which as we all know isn’t designed to keep you dry, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1715289057},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730244,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730237
Never said that, again this shows that youre missing the fundamental difference because youre too busy being stupid. It's made of waterproof material to keep you dry, but the product itself is not waterproof. Many items can be made with waterproof material, f.ex. hiking boots, to keep you dry, but boots are not waterproof.","attachment":null,"posted":1715290778},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730247,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730244
>a bulletproof vest isn't bulletproof because the bullets could be fired from inside your body
>you better not call it bulletproof
Your autism is showing","attachment":null,"posted":1715291912},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730247
We're not talking about "bulletproof" vests, the fact that you have to you have to jump to something completely different does shows how retarded you are. But sure, its very fitting that you use terms like bulletproof vest, which is retard talk only 80IQ cops and other mongoloids manage to spew. Most people talk about plater carriers, what level plates, blast protection, soft/hard armor or ballistic armor. This is for the same reason, bulletproof is a misnomer, a term only used by shitty companies to sell to retards(you). Since bullets come in all shapes and sizes its stupid to ever refer to a vest as bulletproof, such a black and white statement is not used seriously for a product that isnt black or white. It's not like saying a shirt is fire retardent. Youll see the same with *ballistic* helmet, no serious company advertise them as bulletproof helmets. They advertise them as ballistic helmets with their rating. Seriously, try to find Gentex, Team Wendy, Crye, or any other serious company using the term bulletproof for their ballistic armor.","attachment":null,"posted":1715293574},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730273,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730255
>proves the point
Ask me how I know your mom has the autism puzzle shit as a tramp stamp","attachment":null,"posted":1715295621},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730274,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730273
Yeah, at least you acknowledge that I proved you wrong. Whats that? Couldnt find a serious company using bulletproof either? Isnt it weird how neither Helsport used waterproof in their advertisement. Hahaha, you neverouts never fail to entertain.","attachment":null,"posted":1715295902},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730274
>heh, looks like I win ten internets
>hahaha
Pretty cringey shit, tism timmy","attachment":null,"posted":1715297338},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730283,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730282
Yeah, didnt think so, nothing. You were wrong, again and again and again. And the last thing you can do is throw around buzzwords you learned from lurking 4chan too much. Go outside, faggot. Learn and grown. Dont be a roomdweller.","attachment":null,"posted":1715297543},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730284,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726610
Marine Corps bivy if you want a face net. MSS bivy doesn't have the net but might be cheaper.","attachment":null,"posted":1715297628},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730286,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730283
>the retard continues to do his flappy-arm victory dance, completely oblivious to the fact that he missed the point entirely
Sad, really","attachment":null,"posted":1715297954},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730288,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730286
Jesus, at least try to greentext like youre not straight from reddit, neverout. Stay seething. Must been tough knowing your little "bulletproof" argument turned out to expose you this bad.","attachment":null,"posted":1715298108},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730291,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729415
Two days later, he's still seething over this comment","attachment":null,"posted":1715298547},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730291
Who are you talking to? You're the only one here..","attachment":null,"posted":1715298689},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730315,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730274
>Isnt it weird how neither Helsport used waterproof in their advertisement
3000mm, so their “waterproof” (their words) rain gear, that’s designed to keep you dry, will wet out faster than their non-waterproof poncho that isn’t designed to keep you dry… or something. I can’t keep track of your retardation.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715302618743458.jpg","filename":"87C95D5D-B380-496F-99D8-384168FDFCD5.jpg"},"posted":1715302618},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730316,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730294
>everyone is the same person, I swear
I keep saying the board needs post IDs; it would (maybe) cut down on autofellating spergs insisting that only one person could ever think they're full of shit","attachment":null,"posted":1715303022},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730319,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730288
>Reddit bad
Go back to /pol/.
/out/ is a fucking toilet compared to r/CampingandHiking, and that’s just a surface level normie sub.
The more specific subs have great content.
Way better than anything you can get here.
>nice Reddit spacing
Thanks!","attachment":null,"posted":1715303274},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730321,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730319
It must be said that the updoot system is retarded and gives obnoxious fags an overblown sense of importance, but it is a good source of legitimate information (in the right boards).","attachment":null,"posted":1715303534},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730392,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730315
Thats the poncho, not the fjellduk tarp. Try again.","attachment":null,"posted":1715320662},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730393,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730319
Good to hear you prefer your retard hub, I am not surprised.","attachment":null,"posted":1715320765},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730392
>goalposts: moved
This is why nobody takes you seriously","attachment":null,"posted":1715322239},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730401,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730398
Youre the one moving it, the discussion was about bivys and why theyre not waterproof.
>y-yeha well here's a poncho
You're the one so retarded youve forgotten what this is about, youre just looking for the next escape. The x-trem functions as a bivy, but it is not advertised as waterproof for that purpose. The poncho you posted does not function as a bivy, hence why its not advertised under the fjellduk line.","attachment":null,"posted":1715323111},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730401
Damn, I’ve never seen so much cope. 5000mm fabric is waterproof. Your LARP gear is made of waterproof material. If it weren’t meant to be waterproof, it would be made from something else.","attachment":null,"posted":1715339429},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730436
Again, you fail to understand whats being said, even when it was already clarified here >>2730244 you continue to say the same thing. You were wrong. Now put on a "bulletproof" helmet and shoot yourself with 7.62. Do the world a favor, and lead my example.","attachment":null,"posted":1715339789},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730457,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730437
As a reminder, there are multiple anons in the thread, you missed the point of the "bulletproof" example, people will continue to refer to rain gear as waterproof, and no amount of screeching on your part will change that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715348035},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730437
>waterproof boots gear isn’t waterproof
Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
And I’ll refer you to >>2729415","attachment":null,"posted":1715348761},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730462,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729414
>a poncho works as extra sheltering to help keep you dry, but it is *not* waterproof
Your favorite LARP brand lists their poncho as “waterproof”
>A good tent or bivy thats true to their rating is waterproof within that rating.
The railing on the insulated LARP poncho is 5000mm but you said it’s not waterproof because it’s not advertised as such. So what actually matters: the rating or the advertisement?","attachment":null,"posted":1715349073},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730482,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730462
Again, this has already been clarified >>2730437 you need to learn how to read and then absorb what youve read.
>>2730460
Making up quotes again so you can strawman I see, no surprise there.
>>2730457
The point is that no serious company will call their product bulletproof. I also noticed youre now refering to rain gear, which again is generalizing it to something I havent said. I said bivys. Its clear why you too struggle with this.","attachment":null,"posted":1715355595},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730485,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730482
>making up quotes.
Don’t make me screen shot what you wrote. Copy pasted:
>Many items can be made with waterproof material, f.ex. hiking boots, to keep you dry, but boots are not waterproof.
Did you mean to say they’re not submersible?","attachment":null,"posted":1715356612},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730488,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730485
Yes, thats the actual quote. Dont make up stuff.","attachment":null,"posted":1715356928},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730492,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730482
This idiot really will die on the hill of "you didn't use the exact words I like to describe a thing"","attachment":null,"posted":1715357406},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730496,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730492
Thats not what the hill was about to begin with, its you retards who need constant clarification.","attachment":null,"posted":1715357840},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730498,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730492
No, he thinks items made from waterproof material are not waterproof because he has a very narrow, extremely specific definition of waterproof that his Autism won’t stray from. I think the other Anon brought up a good point; Waterproof Fag is equating “waterproof” with “submersible.” He even stated that boots made from waterproof material aren’t waterproof. I keep a pair of rubber boots in my work truck. They are made of a waterproof material (neoprene or something; typical rubber boots) to keep my feet dry. They work. My feet don’t get wet. Yet somehow, according to Waterproof Fag, they aren’t waterproof","attachment":null,"posted":1715358456},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730502,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730496
>you didn't use the right words to describe the hill
Fucking christ, someone give him his special earmuffs so he can turn the octupus toy back to the happy face","attachment":null,"posted":1715359136},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730498
They are indeed not waterproof, they are meant to keep you dry. Im not a waterproof fag, I'm the only person here not retarded.
>>2730502
I dont play with toys, I go outside, hence why I know more than you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715359299},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730503
>not waterproof
Why not?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715359664979132.jpg","filename":"A3CDFF33-7B6B-4451-94F7-F6C7CD6732AB.jpg"},"posted":1715359664},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730512,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730507
They take in water without a cover.","attachment":null,"posted":1715360376},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730514,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730512
In other words they’re not submersible.","attachment":null,"posted":1715360528},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730523,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730514
Not that either, no. But they also let in rain unless covered","attachment":null,"posted":1715361263},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730503
>I go outside
Sperging out over the words anons use to describe gear is obnoxious, but now you're just lying
>I was going to go out but I had a panic attack because my neighbor said he was cleaning the sidewalk and clearly you can't walk on the side of it so you can't call it a sidewalk","attachment":null,"posted":1715362441},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730532,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730529
Try to be patient. Waterproof Fag has autism.","attachment":null,"posted":1715363015},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730592,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730529
sidewalk is one word for a reason, precisely because it's not a side walk.
Wanna make another example you get absolutely BTFO'd on? First waterproof, then bulletproof, now sidewalk. Just loss after loss after loss..","attachment":null,"posted":1715373147},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730604,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730592
>insisting everyone is the same person
>delcaring your own argument as BTFOing someone else's
Sucking your own dick won't make you correct, or less mentally challenged","attachment":null,"posted":1715375116},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730604
I told you: autism.","attachment":null,"posted":1715375334},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730592
sidewalk (n.) "path for pedestrians on the side of a street," 1721, from side (adj.) + walk (n.).","attachment":null,"posted":1715375904},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730604
>telling yourself you didnt get BTFO'd when you're off-topic
lel
>>2730611
Yeah, notice how the words are together. Hence why I said:
>sidewalk is one word for a reason, precisely because it's not a side walk.
I understand anglos struggle with this concept as theyre really just frenchmen, but most germanic languages compose a word out of two or more compounds when talking about a single concept. Again, you get BTFO'd because you arent even able to read. You have no knowledge of outdoors, weapons, and now youve proven to not know a single thing about language. This is why reddit is so perfect for you, as you have admitted. It is the place of talking without expertise.","attachment":null,"posted":1715378072},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730605
I kind of want to make a gofundme for the guy at this point, I bet his mom has a tough time taking care of the bills by herself
>sweetie, do you think you could fill out that application for walmart we talked about
>IT'S NOT AN APPLICATION MOM YOU DON'T APPLY IT GAWWWWD","attachment":null,"posted":1715379169},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730638,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730631
>>2730631
>projecting all these things on me
Not that anon. I quoted the most basic etymology at you purely in response to the "sidewalk is not a side walk" nonsense, which very literally also includes "side of the street". Funnily enough I'm a linguist and get paid for this shit. You are severely autistic and completely out of your depth.","attachment":null,"posted":1715379833},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730639,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730638
Etymology is irrelevant when discussing modern usage, if you were an actual linguist you would know this.","attachment":null,"posted":1715380535},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730640,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730634
>another off-topic example
And another proof you cant stick to the topic because youve been proven wrong several times. Thank you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715380635},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730641,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730639
Absolutely wrong, but I see you're used to saying things that are manifestly false. Are you farming (you)s? Hard to believe someone can consistently be this stupid without it being an act.","attachment":null,"posted":1715380728},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730641
Absolutely not wrong. A living language evolves indepedently of etymology, and this is very clear when we look at etymological roots from 2000 years ago up until today. Constant change.
Etymology is descriptive, not prescriptive.","attachment":null,"posted":1715381021},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730647,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730643
>rubber boots aren’t waterproof","attachment":null,"posted":1715381198},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730650,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730643
>language evolves
>just not in the way I don't like
>you can't call something waterproof because I don't like language evolving in that direction","attachment":null,"posted":1715381783},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730655,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730647
Nope
>>2730650
Correct, I'm a strong purist when it comes to certain languages.","attachment":null,"posted":1715382295},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730691,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730655
>I'm a strong purist
Not strong enough. People will call shit what they want to call it and not give a single fuck about your opinion on the matter.","attachment":null,"posted":1715386644},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730737,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730691
His opinion is “everyone is wrong except me.”
>nuh uh!
Everyone agrees that rubber boots and ponchos are waterproof and will keep you dry.","attachment":null,"posted":1715396488},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730739,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730737
I also have a waterproof bivy that I use to stay dry. It's the US issue one too, so I piss off all sorts of autists with it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715396682},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730691
Yes, unfortunately. Thats why democracy is so flawed, its mob mentality even when the mob is wrong and have no sense of culture, like right now.","attachment":null,"posted":1715412246},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730804,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730643
>A living language evolves indepedently of etymology
That doesn't mean etymology is "irrelevant when discussing modern usage". Nice new goalposts though.
>Etymology is descriptive, not prescriptive.
Sure, now refer back to the example I cited.","attachment":null,"posted":1715417227},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i've got the 3ful tyvek bivvy. its pretty good, i often pair it with a tarp to keep the rain off since it can't handle full on rain. keeps the sleeping bag dry and keeps the wind out though. good for cowboy camps if its defo going to be dry overnight. wish it had a bug hood though","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715418144595109.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240511-095315-207.png"},"posted":1715418144},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730787
You argue like a woman, where reality is what you want it to be and nothing matters except for your feelings.","attachment":null,"posted":1715418202},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730825,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730804
>That doesn't mean etymology is "irrelevant when discussing modern usage"
It does, it has bo bearing on contemporary of future use.
>Nice new goalposts though.
Literally no new goalpost is set, im explaining to you why youre wrong. Perhaps stop using buzzwords blindly l, and start reading and understanding whats going on. Youre clearly larping as someone who knows anything about language","attachment":null,"posted":1715427352},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730826,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730806
Yeah yeah, leave the 2016 wannabe Ben Shapiro talk in the trash where it belongs. So cringe.","attachment":null,"posted":1715427421},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730844,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730825
>nooo there's no way you can look at the past to explain the present, that's completely irrelevant and wrong! you are larping!!
So far up your own ass, it'd take a crowbar to get you unstuck.","attachment":null,"posted":1715436093},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730872,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730844
To be descriptive, sure, but to be prescriptive, no. Which is why etymology is irrelevant. 99%+ of people are unaware of etymology in daily use, thus again, its irrelevant.","attachment":null,"posted":1715441375},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730879,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730872
>because people don't actively think about etymology means the processes involved have no bearing on daily use, because: I pulled this out of my ass
Alright, I think you've disqualified yourself enough. This is just funny at this point. Have a good one, anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715442624},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2730906,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730879
>doesnt refute it
Lol, as expected from people not knowing a thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715449146},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2731294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730805
very nice, im waiting for mine to come through. Its so cheap compared to everything on the market. I plan to use it during winter and alpine climbs. Any word on how roomy it is? im wondering if I could fit 2 quilts and a foam mat in there without squeezing the insulation","attachment":null,"posted":1715549960},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2731877,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729024
In NZ we carry them in case we’re caught out unexpectedly. They’re uncomfortable af, but better than a night in the rain or snow.
99% of the time it’s a night in a back country hut with a fire. Rare to see anyone except on the most popular walks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715651767},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2731880,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726610
the only thing a bivy bag is good for is sparing some poor EMS worker the trouble of stuffing your bloated carcass into a body bag because it's already inside one","attachment":null,"posted":1715652295},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2731883,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731880
This, bivvys are very dangerous. My uncle used one in the rain and he didn't know that waterproof meant not waterproof; he drowned","attachment":null,"posted":1715652678},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2732840,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726610
US MILITARY BIVVYS
"SLEEPING SYSTEM"
OMG. i dont camp regularly now but me and an old friend scored under 50$ bivvy sacks easily.
as we tested them out, we realized they were OP as FUCKK - goretex, camo, 0 condensation, rough, easy to stuff in pack. rain tested and completely viable. I took it far and camped on the california coast with them without any sleeping bag - i just had an emergency blanket and a pad - i got SO DAMN COLD but it was survivable. also that night there were dozens of mice that bit at the bag and the open area at the top. i forget if i needed it to be open in order to breathe better or w/e. i cant remember, sorry. but yeah, in full rain you can take these out and hop in with your bag and pad and not be worried in teh slightest.","attachment":null,"posted":1715910733},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2732844,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732840
Woodland MSS bivy is peak aesthetics","attachment":null,"posted":1715911050},{"board":"out","thread":2726610,"pid":2734366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726610
I just did an over night campout with an SOL Emergency Bivvy and it was okay, if you're in 50f+ it should work pretty well for you but wear layers of course.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716264810081398.jpg","filename":"25c53c90-2c42-4f42-9a24-060d8b0cef3b.jpg"},"posted":1716264810}]}
{"title":"Weird barefoot climbing shoes","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2727737,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Apparently Saltic is making a "barefoot" kind of climbing shoe, the model is called "Eliot".
Do you think acceptable precision can be achieved with such a seemingly wide tip?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714820110307289.jpg","filename":"ELIOT_BAREFOOT_CLIMBING_1.jpg"},"posted":1714820110},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2727801,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727737
Looks interesting. I use barefoot shoes whenever I can, but didn't think there was climbing one too. I use the cheapest Decathlon shoes for indoor boulder and a fivefingers for via ferrata.","attachment":null,"posted":1714832454},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2727846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727737
is that them? They look like regular climbing shoes. Barefoot makes me think that it fits like a glove but on your feet... which would be awful on a climbing shoe because the whole point of the reinforced toe is so you can distribute focused pressure across the bottom of your foot and not concentrate it all on one unsupported toe.","attachment":null,"posted":1714839941},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2727847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727737
Anyone that's not completely new to climbing and takes it somewhat seriously will wear their climbing shoes barefoot anyway so I don't see the point of this. Regardless, I'm going to the local bouldering gym and stopping for a Thai massage on the way, hopefully I can get a hand job at the minimum.","attachment":null,"posted":1714840012},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2727864,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727737
So in other words a less "technical" climbing shoe. Calling it "barefoot" is a bullshit marketing gimmick.","attachment":null,"posted":1714841038},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2727882,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727864
>a barefoot shoe
>barefoot shoe?
>yes barefoot shoe
>barefoot.
>yeees
>shoe.
>yes.
>but...
>shut up
>ok how much is it
>180$
>...
>...
>kill yourself
>i will","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714843675103322.png","filename":"sd3423.png"},"posted":1714843675},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2727889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727882
Not the same shoe as in my OP post, but I have used the ones in your post and they satisfy me. Payed a tad less than that, by the way.
Be sure to consult the size chart and take a well fitting pair if you do buy them.
>>2727846
Yes, it's those, picrel. They must have made some kind of compromise for them to be usable on walls, "barefoot" after all is just marketing.
>https://barefootsaltic.cz/produkt/eliot-barefoot-climbing
>>2727801
>cheapest Decathlon shoes for indoor boulder
What model? How long have you been climbing for and what difficulty?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714844705563950.jpg","filename":"ELIOT_BAREFOOT_CLIMBING_6.jpg"},"posted":1714844705},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2727946,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727737
is it just really soft rubber for them to call it "barefoot"? are these even climbing shoes or approach shoes? i feel like la sportiva's no edge range would do the exact same thing but a lot lot better, i dont see any advantage of the foot shape when tighter shoes can still comfortable and precise, these would probably just have a shit ton of air gaps in them especially on the outer edge","attachment":null,"posted":1714853878},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2728279,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727889
>What model? How long have you been climbing for and what difficulty?
Simond First Klimb. I stared it in december and didn't went too many times so pretty low difficulty.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714916945625491.jpg","filename":"firrst_climb.jpg"},"posted":1714916945},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2728331,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727946
I think it's mostly the more anatomic toebox.
>>2727946
Wish I could try them so I could say for sure, am a general proponent of anatomical designs. I'll write here if I get around to do so.","attachment":null,"posted":1714923678},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2728350,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727737
They look like they might be a decent crack shoe and maybe passable as a slab shoe and absolute shit for anything else.","attachment":null,"posted":1714927505},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2728352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728350
I'm interested in reading your argument.","attachment":null,"posted":1714927649},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2729518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728352
NTA but I get what he’s laying down. For crack (hand/fist size cracks) I’ve always thought some Vans with climbing rubber resoles would be one of if not the perfect shoes for such a task. These shoes just have a lot of rubber, flat footed (not rounded for edges like traditional climbing shoes or even pointed like super gnar v15 shoes) and would give pretty good area to just slap a foot in the crack or on a wall and get the purchase you need with the added bonus of your little toesies not hurting so much. Toe fatigue is real man!! The area/purchase argument applies to slab too (though not hard slab as by then you’re abusing the edges God/the FA’ers provide you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715138583},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2729543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They'd be okay for bouldering I guess, but climbing is not a natural activity it's gear assisted and good stiff shoes are part of that gear. You really don't want to load your tendons all.day in your meme shoes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715146338},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2729563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729543
Rubber compound seems to be the same as other Saltics.","attachment":null,"posted":1715155798},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2731793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727737
Those honestly don't look very foot shaped to me. Mad rock Phoenix is best for wide feet","attachment":null,"posted":1715634051},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2733217,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731793
>Mad rock
How much do you downsize Mad Rocks for an tight/performance fit? The new Sharks look like they would fit my footshape and needs for indoor bouldering. It's rare to find MR's in store in EU though so cant try them on.","attachment":null,"posted":1716022948},{"board":"out","thread":2727737,"pid":2734611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727737
Yeah this is a dumb idea. But I think it'll serve a niche for some people.
Options are always good to have, not everyone wants to scrunch their foot into a climbing shoe.","attachment":null,"posted":1716329890}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2727806,"pid":2727806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"> catch a flat tire
> get a repair kit
> get the inner tube out
> find the hole
> seal it
> use a mini hand pump to inflate the tube
> pump for like 10 minutes
> still flat
mini pumps are a meme and presta valves are a work of satan","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714834197330510.jpg","filename":"dogshit.jpg"},"posted":1714834197},{"board":"out","thread":2727806,"pid":2727818,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727806
>mini pumps are a meme
They're inferior to every other pump, only useful for repairs on the go. Get one where the actual pump handle is attached with a rubber hose so you can move it freely. Much less retarded design.
>and presta valves are a work of satan
True.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714836355193070.jpg","filename":"hosie.jpg"},"posted":1714836355},{"board":"out","thread":2727806,"pid":2727821,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727806
>get a flat
>contemplate changing to your spare wheel but fuck no
>take out pic related, fix it in 5min and throw the useless co2 cartridges away
>fill it with 12v compressor
>drive away","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714836817866187.jpg","filename":"tuotesivu_Renkaanpaikkaussarjapussissa_1358_5c949fc19181acb5da9d65d997d3a7d2_1.jpg"},"posted":1714836817},{"board":"out","thread":2727806,"pid":2727865,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727806
>I can't inflate a tire bloo bloo bloo
Skill issue. Any 4chins poster worth his salt should be extremely capable when it comes to short-stroke pumping action","attachment":null,"posted":1714841046},{"board":"out","thread":2727806,"pid":2727886,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727865
i fixed it already. the issue was the presta valve being a dogshit piece of construction and i had to use an adapter for it
also kill yourself","attachment":null,"posted":1714844529},{"board":"out","thread":2727806,"pid":2727895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727886
>retard used the wrong end on the pump and blames the valve
only on 4chan dot org slash out","attachment":null,"posted":1714845554},{"board":"out","thread":2727806,"pid":2729014,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727886
>i had to use an adapter for it
fucksake.
https://youtu.be/I6J8D0RLmFo?si=48J4TPnYl-iFCle6
Switch to tubeless too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715042456},{"board":"out","thread":2727806,"pid":2731255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727806
I once pumped a car tired with a mini pump
it was stupid and I was retarded","attachment":null,"posted":1715541491},{"board":"out","thread":2727806,"pid":2731608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Gets you back on the bike within minutes
You should really replace the inner with a new one after, but I always carry this stuff with me when cycling, has gotten me (and broken down strangers on the road) out of plenty of shit situations. 5€, you'd have to be a retard to fuck up using it and it means I don't have to do a half hour repair job on the side of the road for a minor puncture.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715613778888609.png","filename":"savior.png"},"posted":1715613778},{"board":"out","thread":2727806,"pid":2731873,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731608
Why wait for a puncture in the first place?
Ditch the tubes.
Carry one for an emergency spare if you’re paranoid or 6 gorillion km from home.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715651083350901.jpg","filename":"IMG_3310.jpg"},"posted":1715651083}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727211,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I own a piece of land that is connected by a county road, and these amish fucks have recently started moving in near the road and they fucking DUG A 5 FOOT TRENCH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY ROAD WITH SOME GAY PRIVATE CONSTRUCTION CREW AND IT IS UNPASSABLE can I call the law on these retards I want to actually be able to access my land....","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714687049366305.jpg","filename":"YOWCH.jpg"},"posted":1714687049},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727214,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727211
>Amish play "kick the autistic" too
based buggybois","attachment":null,"posted":1714687567},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727218,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"have you tried talking yo them, before asking a tibetian fly fishing forum if you should call the pigs?","attachment":null,"posted":1714688196},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727214
Considering blocking a county road is at least a misdemeanor they won't be enjoying the game for much longer, state police game and is currently forcing them to refill the hole get fucked amishtards
>>2727218
How am I supposed to talk to them when there is an actual fucking ww2 style trench in the way","attachment":null,"posted":1714688420},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727220,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727219
just how massively fat are you?","attachment":null,"posted":1714688464},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727222,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727220
Cope","attachment":null,"posted":1714688783},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727223,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727219
>5ft trench
you cant jump that?
I'm with >>2727220 you sound fat and whiny. go ahead, get into a war with your neighbours. sounds like you'll have a lot of fun with that","attachment":null,"posted":1714689202},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727225,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Contrary to popular opinion, the Amish are NOT the humble people that they are portrayed as on the silver screen. In reality they are cowardly and ignorant, opting to hide behind their belief system when confronted with the truth. They actively misuse pesticides and practice agricultural methods that have since been proven to be harmful for the environment and long term health of the land. They mistreat animals to the point of torturing them for not making quotas. They also get huge tax breaks for their gay beliefs and to top it off they are incredibly aggressive towards outsiders in an attempt to ruin non Amish farmers and upsell their product. They also lie about their products as being organic, while they use 1800s arsenic pesticides. Seriously fuck the Amish but also watch yourself, they are vindictive, aggressive, slimely freaks","attachment":null,"posted":1714689349},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727227,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727222
I sorry, I can't hear you over your wheezing.","attachment":null,"posted":1714689907},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727225
Amish are just rural jews
>t. live in a heavily Amish community","attachment":null,"posted":1714690895},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727211
Fill it in.","attachment":null,"posted":1714693863},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727211
I hope the Amish rape your asshole you fat faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1714720128},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727368,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727225
And they also shelter child molesters.","attachment":null,"posted":1714720906},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727211
>everyone in this thread defending cult freaks who sneer on outsiders, on par with ortho jews
Very bizarre. Start by asking your local authorities about it, not using emergency numbers obviously","attachment":null,"posted":1714761465},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727368
>>2727225
this because Amish are one grade under Jews for the biggest pieces of shit out there. At this point I don't think they care at all about traditional values, it's all about doing what the fuck I wanna do and no one's going to stop me. they use phones and computers it's not about morals or values anymore. biggest assholes I have ever met, and their children are demons. from personal encounters of course","attachment":null,"posted":1714848399},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2727940,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727211
Are they actually constructing something? Drain culvert under the road perhaps? It's very possible they are doing legal construction. Start with just asking them. If they aren't doing legitimate business then make it clear you will not be denied access to your property, especially off a county road, and how difficult they want that process to be is entirely up to them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714852272},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2728078,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727987
struck a nerve?","attachment":null,"posted":1714868276},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2728146,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727211
I can't stop laughing at your pic.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714875136038406.jpg","filename":"1523902674970.jpg"},"posted":1714875136},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2728449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727211
>instead of talking to them or doing my own research, I'm going to impotantly bitch on a Lithuanian candle making forum
Not only are you a fat fuck, but you're a faggot too","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714938123273255.jpg","filename":"OP is a faggot in gravy.jpg"},"posted":1714938123},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2730353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727211
Fill it in.","attachment":null,"posted":1715307945},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2730356,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730353
>expecting fat fuck OP to pick up a shovel
lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1715308213},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2730374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727531
Orthodox jews are less hated that zionists like yourself, and there's nothing wrong with "sneering at outsiders" as you put it","attachment":null,"posted":1715314605},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2730383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730374
I'm not jewish, so I'm an outsider to them.
Hence, they do not like me.
Weird cuckhold mindset to like somebody who hates you, can't relate","attachment":null,"posted":1715316843},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2730395,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730383
You have no community of your own, that's why you can't relate","attachment":null,"posted":1715321455},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2730396,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727211
Twiiiist: it wasn't buggyheebs, it was OP's internet provider, they sent mailers out warning about the scheduled cut and cable work 3 months ahead of time, but OP if too fat to remember.","attachment":null,"posted":1715322016},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2732644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730396
Speak English, ESL-kun.","attachment":null,"posted":1715867421},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2732649,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727225
> harmful to the environment
this is topkek. modern farming pumps chemicals into the waterways, destroys native species that are "pests" and also tortures animals. just because the amish don't like you're interracial family doesn't mean you have to hate them back. take the high road(around the trench they dug)","attachment":null,"posted":1715868316},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2732662,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727225
This post was obviously written by Jewish hands. Made me love the Amish even more.","attachment":null,"posted":1715871779},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2732665,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My buddy lives in outside of Lancaster and the local Amheebs have stolen his dog twice for their puppy mill. The first time she came back on her own with a chewed up halter rope around her neck. The second time the cops found her tied to a shed with a tin can around her snout to keep her quiet. I say fuck ‘em.","attachment":null,"posted":1715872376},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2732698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732665
Do amish have guns? Seems pretty easy to solve if they can't use technology","attachment":null,"posted":1715879085},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2732710,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732698
They do use technology. They use power tools, computers, the internet, everything. They just say it's "off grid" because they run it off a generator.","attachment":null,"posted":1715881619},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2732746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727225
Amish are great believers in incest, domestic violence/abuse and rape. They are based for keeping to their beliefs and ways as well as they have and these sorts of people/communities will survive upheaval. But like all other religious sects they devolve into the dark desires and power.
t. ex-amish, got a away thanks to my dad figuring things out, but I got abused and still feel confused about them","attachment":null,"posted":1715887953},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2732747,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732698
They tend to be "protected", they are well known for their abuse and other fuckery and yet little is done about it.
And they do have guns, basic shotguns/rifles but no pistols. Most aren't keen on them and/or hunting but there'll be someone to balance them majority that does know and will shoot you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715888437},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2732822,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732644
son, if you can't read that, it's you who can't read english...","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715904489399188.jpg","filename":"1409373005.jpg"},"posted":1715904489},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2733341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727225
SAY THAT TO MY FACE AND NOT ON THE INTERNET!!!","attachment":null,"posted":1716064241},{"board":"out","thread":2727211,"pid":2733461,"name":"DRAWBRIDGE?","msg":">>2727211
addaligators.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716090085181630.jpg","filename":"IMG_0928.jpg"},"posted":1716090085}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2727920,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is pepper spray any good against wolves or dogs?
What can you do about wild boars?
How about beavers?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714849258754482.jpg","filename":"images (96).jpg"},"posted":1714849258},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2727922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727920
Beavers are immune to all attacks.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714849397551293.jpg","filename":"BeaverMasterPlan.jpg"},"posted":1714849397},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2727927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727920
I relentlessly mock the use of pepper spray for bears. But I actually know it's quite effective for dogs. And I suspect it would be similarly effective for wolves.
No clue about wild swine. But I've been attacked by a domesticated sow protecting her piglets. And the only thing that saved my leg was my father breaking an axe handle over her head. She lived, but was kinda retarded and clumsy for the rest of her life.
I wouldn't be surprised if pepper spray was less effective on wild boars","attachment":null,"posted":1714850718},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2727930,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727927
>I relentlessly mock the use of pepper spray for bears
Why? its def worked for some people. better than nothing.","attachment":null,"posted":1714850842},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2727932,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727930
It probably works for predatory attacks because predators seek easy kills.
But for defensive encounters, particularly if cubs are involved its next to useless.
I think a large body of the research on it was it simply being deployed on false charges","attachment":null,"posted":1714851048},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2727936,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727920
are you a tree?","attachment":null,"posted":1714851756},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2727937,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727932
>defensive encounters, particularly if cubs are involved its next to useless
This guy got attacked by a sow with 2 cubs. bear spray saved his life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2NP0nzNv-0","attachment":null,"posted":1714851858},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2727951,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727920
Why would you fight beavers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHHpYXQyQO4","attachment":null,"posted":1714854595},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2728438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727932
>But for defensive encounters, particularly if cubs are involved its next to useless.
bears are not that smart, if you blind them they will get confused and freak out, not coldly continue attacking
maybe if he already bite you its over, but otherwise you should be fine","attachment":null,"posted":1714936708},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729307,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727937
>>2728438
Yeah, whatever fags","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715107652788063.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240507_124624_Brave.jpg"},"posted":1715107652},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729308,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729307
Great. You have an anecdote. What’s your point? You can find anecdotes of all sorts of outcomes for grizzly encounters. Nothing works 100% of the time even guns.","attachment":null,"posted":1715107917},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729315,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727920
>Is pepper spray any good against wolves or dogs?
Yes, but it doesn't stop them. Just makes their eyes tear and their noses smell, so you have a better chance of escaping.
Sprays are unreliable though, as they can always lose pressure with no warning sign. The one time I had to use them (well, thought so, at least), that can only got a range of approx 30cm instead of the advertised 3m. That was a 4 months old can that had been kept in the house most of the time - carry one on your belt in the sun, and it'll lose pressure even quicker.
If you can afford it and aren't limited by retarded UK or US laws, carrying a pepper gun (a revolver or sawed of shotgun firing what's basically a cartridge where the bullet was replaced with a pepper / wax mixture) is much better.
But really, having encountered both wolves and boars a few times now, usually from distances below 5m, I never actually needed to fight them. Unleashed, badly trained dogs are a different matter, but fighting them off usually ends up with having to intimidate or fight the owner too, so I'd want something more convincing than an irritant.","attachment":null,"posted":1715108973},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729308","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715111116994663.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240507_134354_Brave.jpg"},"posted":1715111116},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729338,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729328
>didn’t work once therefore it never works
How fucking retarded are you?","attachment":null,"posted":1715112390},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729338","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715112522867606.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240507_140746_Brave.jpg"},"posted":1715112522},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"> doubling down on cope
Lol. Same as it ever was.","attachment":null,"posted":1715112641},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729346,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727920
Just get bear spray.","attachment":null,"posted":1715112866},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729338
Bears run when you spray because they instinctively know not to mess with things that hiss and skunks. Predatory bears are not frequently deterred by bear spray.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715112908602751.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240507-141415.png"},"posted":1715112908},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729348,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtrhatX8LA","attachment":null,"posted":1715113030},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729348
Sounds like a classic false charge. Didn't need bearspray","attachment":null,"posted":1715113302},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729350,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729349
>bear turns around and charges again at full tilt with different body language
> it was just kidding
>coping this hard
https://mountainjournal.org/how-stopping--grizzly-in-greater-yellowstone-saved-a-life","attachment":null,"posted":1715113610},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729354,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729342
https://www.kulr8.com/news/he-lowered-his-head-and-just-came-for-me-two-experienced-montana-outdoorsmen-recount-close/article_b125f7c4-2f80-11ed-81eb-ab8f66febc05.html","attachment":null,"posted":1715114040},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2729537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"extremely effective against cunt dogs that want to bite you....the only problem is the owner after they figure out you maced their shithead dog, so make sure you have can with enough juice left to spray them as well","attachment":null,"posted":1715144997},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2731492,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727920
I know for sure it works on junkies","attachment":null,"posted":1715580849},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2731689,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727920
for larger animals it might be effective, but for dogs, nothing beats a rock. (free)","attachment":null,"posted":1715620821},{"board":"out","thread":2727920,"pid":2731692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731689
Of course the guy who hates dogs also goes right to stoning. Have you said your daily seven prayers?","attachment":null,"posted":1715621044}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2720237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have a dream to see the Wollemi pines in the wild. But the actual location of the valley containing the trees within the national park is a closely guarded secret. Wollemi NP is massive and almost entirely wilderness; I'm pretty sure I could search for years without ever finding them.
Does anyone have any leads or know anything about this?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713196275978285.jpg","filename":"p-12412-os.jpg"},"posted":1713196275},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2720254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Wollemi pine has been on display in botanical gardens for over a decade and is available for purchase through some, limited retailers in the USA. It is a fussy and difficult plant to grow in the garden, requiring a protected space, well-draining, somewhat acidic soil, and winter conditions found in USDA zones 9 to 11","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713198123564864.jpg","filename":"selfhelp.jpg"},"posted":1713198123},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2720255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720237
The wollemi pines location has been doxxed on /out/ before and the jannies were too lazy and ineffective to remove it.","attachment":null,"posted":1713198449},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2720349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You could probably find it in a day on Google Earth.","attachment":null,"posted":1713208117},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2720351,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Oh fuck it's Australia. Just get a few boxes of beer and ask an Abo to take you.","attachment":null,"posted":1713208301},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2720689,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720255
That's kind of sad honestly. But I have a pretty good idea now after looking at maps all day.
Will make an expedition on the weekend probably.","attachment":null,"posted":1713264268},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2721909,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720237
i saw them on a hike back before covid. i was going to the glowworm cave, hiked in and out (wont say the direction i went in/out) and while walking along a river i saw them. i knew they were there somewhere but i didnt realise they were actually there, if you know what i mean. probably someone else wouldnt have noticed it but im a plant enjoyer
obviously i walked among them, marked it on my map and left absolutely no trace. didnt touch them either just in case
not sharing the location though","attachment":null,"posted":1713496345},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2721996,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720237
just get your own :3","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713509994544391.jpg","filename":"IMGP2997.jpg"},"posted":1713509994},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722058,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"are these the pines? everywhere i'm looking on Google Maps i see this lime green vegetation at the bottom of deep creek valleys, surrounded by dark gray vegetation that seem to be Eucalyptus. they are literally everywhere in valley bottoms, at least in NW Wollemi NP","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713534873487040.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240419-154902_Maps.jpg"},"posted":1713534873},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722061,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722058
there are only ~200 wollemi pines and they only exist in one stand in one valley.
wollemi national park is massive and most of it is canyons where you can't really go a long distance without being an expert climber spending days going up and down canyon walls 2-3 times a day.
there are subtropical forests in all the canyons, but only one canyon somewhere hides the precious wollemi pine family","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713535647276977.jpg","filename":"IMG_1754.jpg"},"posted":1713535647},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722084,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722061
what's this obviously completely different patch of trees then. expecially considering that there's a known grove along the very same creek
btw the place is like 2 kilometers from a dirt track","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713541053925214.png","filename":"2024-04-19 17_31_36-Google Earth - Yandex Browser.png"},"posted":1713541053},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i keep finding this stuff","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713541100251263.png","filename":"2024-04-19 17_34_21-Google Earth - Yandex Browser.png"},"posted":1713541100},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722084
this is 100% not the wollemi stand
>>2722085
this might be, idunno!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713541325366913.jpg","filename":"rts2yhhy_wide-ccb1c637bc6fafeb3ed0d354f63818b7a703d83a-s1100-c50.jpg"},"posted":1713541325},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722088,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722087
is that national park explored enough that we are sure only one grove exists?","attachment":null,"posted":1713541422},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722092,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722088
I think so, at this point, although we've learned over and over again that even outback NSW is full of surprises","attachment":null,"posted":1713541894},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722137,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"someone post the decimal coordinates, PLEASE","attachment":null,"posted":1713549834},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722172,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2721909
Based non toucher. We have Kauri Dieback in NZ because people insist on standing all over their roots and molesting them.","attachment":null,"posted":1713553840},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722173,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722058
That's water bro","attachment":null,"posted":1713553921},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722174,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722085
Better go and look m8. I bet they've gone over it all in a chopper but you never know.","attachment":null,"posted":1713554034},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722175,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722172
>Kauri Dieback
Good, king kaom is a bad man.","attachment":null,"posted":1713554065},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722286,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722088
yeah, there were bushfires going through there a few years ago, apparently the figherfighters had to specifically go to the grove (apparently there are 3 but idk) to protect them
>>2722137
kill yourself, if youre too lazy to check irl you shouldnt even be asking
>>2722172
>Based non toucher
i didnt even really want to, but i did consider taking a cutting. maybe i would have if i had the tools
they say that there are more people that have been on the iss than have been in the groves, maybe its true. probably there are less people that have taken cuttings of them that have been on the moon","attachment":null,"posted":1713575501},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722287,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722286
they send the air tankers out to proteck them. they also rigged up an irrigation and sprinkler sustem from the creek that would keep the humidity high in the valley/s so they wouldn't get singed. the fires swept through and only two wollemi were burned. this pic >>2722087 is the aftermath where everything but the wollemi pines was destroyed","attachment":null,"posted":1713576274},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722287
yeah i know, im saying that if there was any elsewhere they would have been burned, so asking if theres any that arent known isnt really a good question. if they wernt known there would be no one to know to protect that area
also interestingly, when i saw them the valley didnt look like that so probably there are at least two groves","attachment":null,"posted":1713576581},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"cmon someone just post the coordinates
I won't leave trash or anything","attachment":null,"posted":1713577310},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722299,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722294
anon youve been told multiple times that they are on a river/creek. its also been said in this thread that no one is going to post the coordinates and you probably shouldnt trust any that are posted here because its pretty obvious that they arent going to be real (quick anon! 39.1577, -83.0910, thats the creek). trash isnt the only issue, are you going to step on roots? are you going to carry a disease? are you going to give the location to someone who will leave trash?
if you want to know where they are just go out and find them, walk along the rivers over a dozen or so trips and youll find them and youd also prove yourself worthy or something
anyway, kill yourself again","attachment":null,"posted":1713578135},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722299
I won't give the location to anyone else. I won't spread disease or leave trash.
PLEASE give me the decimals.","attachment":null,"posted":1713578515},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722304,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722303
>I won't spread disease
kek, post hazmat suit","attachment":null,"posted":1713578579},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722317,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What are some other "secret" spots like this around the world?","attachment":null,"posted":1713581932},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722317
can't tell anon","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713582220189705.jpg","filename":"oh_what_a_busy_day_spot.jpg"},"posted":1713582220},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722322,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722317
the nightcap oak is the only other one in australia i know of. theres also the hyperion, the tallest tree in the world (but the location has been leaked a hundred times, you can google for it)","attachment":null,"posted":1713582598},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722324,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720237
thats just weed bro kek","attachment":null,"posted":1713583280},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722325,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720237
Don't go there, idiots like you have apparently contaminated the site with invasive parasites already.","attachment":null,"posted":1713583398},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722326,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722325
>invasive parasites
The fuck? Also if this tree is really old wouldn't that mean it's susceptible to all kinds of shit and bound to die? Like native Americans getting btfo.","attachment":null,"posted":1713583742},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722326
Could be, but they do thrive in public gardens and as potted plants around the home, so I'm not sure if they're particularly delicate. Although everything has its kryptonite if you find it","attachment":null,"posted":1713583931},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722327
It's going the way of the ornamental plant at best.","attachment":null,"posted":1713584109},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722328
what do you mean?
also they're pretty ugly. i should really prune mine a bit this winter, it looks like a fucking psycho. then i can propagate from the cuttings and gift them to my frens","attachment":null,"posted":1713584220},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722331,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722326
The keyword there is "invasive." The trees are not adapted to deal with them like they are native diseases. They don't have to be old.","attachment":null,"posted":1713584449},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722332,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722330
I mean stuck in captivity.
>>2722331
Knowing Australia, its fate is to be invaded. I consider new residents late arrivals at this point.","attachment":null,"posted":1713584717},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722333,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722332
>Knowing Australia, its fate is to be invaded. I consider new residents late arrivals at this point.
ironic considering the history of australia and the history of introduced pests","attachment":null,"posted":1713585011},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722333","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713585470101527.jpg","filename":"chinatown-sydney-HT9C42.jpg"},"posted":1713585470},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722335,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722333
It's a running theme over there.","attachment":null,"posted":1713585498},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722318
I used to have a secret hideaway. Then the weather got nice and arab's with bluetooth speakers "discovered" it. (I say "discovered" because it's a tiny patch of woods DIRECTLY behind my uni, yet during the winter, and most of spring, it's completely empty, save for the occasional wandering grandpa)","attachment":null,"posted":1713586666},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722342
what uni? i live near a uni that's rather green and bushy","attachment":null,"posted":1713587159},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720689
Just disinfect your boots with some kind of fungicide to make sure you’re not gonna accidentally kill them all with cinnamon fungus","attachment":null,"posted":1713613990},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722429,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722428
no actually try develop their natural imunity. bring syringes full of glyphosate to inject","attachment":null,"posted":1713614879},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722058
looks weirdly similar","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713618645609922.jpg","filename":"wo11.jpg"},"posted":1713618645},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722489,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm starting to buy the idea that there are more groves out there.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713628628239034.png","filename":"suspicious patch1.png"},"posted":1713628628},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Any plant-bros know what this could be if it isn't Wollemi?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713628757053972.png","filename":"suspicious patch2.png"},"posted":1713628757},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722493,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Along Ovens creek in Wollemi is where they all reside","attachment":null,"posted":1713629588},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722496,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722493
shut uppa your mouth","attachment":null,"posted":1713629973},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722704,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722489
>>2722490
From talking to people in the NPWS there are several strands, but I don't think they're that distinct that you could spot them on a map like that.
Maybe with very high res aerial photos.","attachment":null,"posted":1713671538},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2722705,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722704
there are between 200 and 60 in the wild (its hard to count them apparently). a photo showing more than 200 trees isnt going to be it","attachment":null,"posted":1713671676},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722493
Jannies letting this one go.","attachment":null,"posted":1714081664},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724544,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Imagine being responsible for the literal extinction of a species","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714090179576120.jpg","filename":"1701695924616095.jpg"},"posted":1714090179},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"so any aussie going to these >>2722058 >>2722085 >>2722489 >>2722490 places to check if they're actually the pines?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714091200636976.gif","filename":"1b1.gif"},"posted":1714091200},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724615,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722342
>save for the occasional wandering grandpa
Nice. There are a few types of people that I don't mind bumping into outdoors and grandpas are one of them","attachment":null,"posted":1714102738},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724544
They have been transplanted and transferred all over the world. At this point you wouldn't be able to wipe them out.","attachment":null,"posted":1714102826},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"jesus christ just post the damn coordinates already","attachment":null,"posted":1714103011},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just look up the habitat requirements of the Wollemi pine, go out to the park, ground truth a few dozen plots that match those requirements, then obtain high res aerial imagery and write an algorithm that predicts where those habitat conditions exist.
Then go out and visit all your predicted polygons until you find the pines.
Should only take you 4-5 years if you apply yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1714103120},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724622,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724618
>take you 4-5 years
kek, based retard
no one tell him","attachment":null,"posted":1714103663},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724625,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724622
I could do that study in about 3 years by myself, if I lived in Australia. I gave him an extra one to two years to teach himself the principles of ecological land classification.","attachment":null,"posted":1714104178},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724626,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724625
>could do that study in about 3 years by myself
doubling down on the retardation","attachment":null,"posted":1714104496},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724680,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"this is a leave no digital trace thing. i dont post my good unknown spots anywhere.","attachment":null,"posted":1714122504},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2724681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724680
me neither >>2722318","attachment":null,"posted":1714122835},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2725357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724618
Why do you need to write an algorithm just fucking think for yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1714288759},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2725374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722174
as living in Italy unfortunately i can't go there myself
>>2722490
if you look at the Coricudgy Forest on satellite imagery, the trees look very spiky. they still have a different color, dark green instead of the wollemi's supposed light green that is present in those other microgroves
tldr; the bigger, darker patches of "spiky" trees are cypresses. the smaller, lime green groves might be our pines","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714292586797372.png","filename":"2024-04-28 10_15_31-Forestry Corporation - Cypress pine forests.png"},"posted":1714292586},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2725387,"name":"pepe","msg":"eachine 220","attachment":null,"posted":1714303831},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2726805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722137
Here you go
20°37'34.1"S 166°18'20.2"E","attachment":null,"posted":1714597282},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2726809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722493
Bump","attachment":null,"posted":1714597630},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2726949,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722493
>>2726809
kek, im >>2721909 (and its not a larp)
all im saying is that if you want to go there and check youll be disappointed","attachment":null,"posted":1714651485},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2726960,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726949
All I'm saying is the jannies are fucking lazy for allowing the location to stay up.","attachment":null,"posted":1714655129},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2726963,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726960
trannies also are lazy. a-are you saying jannies are trannies?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714655296949176.jpg","filename":"img-thing_out_sm.jpg"},"posted":1714655296},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2726975,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"-33.02508002817495, 150.31693168015713
these aren't the coordinates. I just thought it looked like a cool spot for a hike ;)","attachment":null,"posted":1714657506},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2726988,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720237
All someone needs to do is collect botanical cuttings or seeds from domesticated source trees and then hike into a couple of those canyons and start seed bombing and planting more of them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714658974},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2726996,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726988
they won't survive just anywhere in the whilde anon, don't be glib","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714660434183891.jpg","filename":"IMGP2178.jpg"},"posted":1714660434},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2726997,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726996
They've been surviving in that canyon for thousands of years haven't they? All you need is one autist to take samples and spam plant domesticated plants, statistically you should see some take even if it's only 1 in 1000.","attachment":null,"posted":1714660617},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727001,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726997
They've already successfully cloned them and brought them to other countries. Pretty sure you can even buy them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714660668},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727009,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727001
So what's stopping one Aussie autist from propagating them in the wild in random canyons. You can't always depend on the government for conservation, in fact you should never depend on it for that.","attachment":null,"posted":1714661484},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727048,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727009
You can't depend on random idiots who know nothing about conservation either.
>So what's stopping one Aussie autist from propagating them in the wild in random canyons.
If you don't already know the answer to this question you're proving my point. You need to learn about something first before acting impulsively.","attachment":null,"posted":1714663019},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727049,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727048
The government and conservation agencies are already at the stage of attempting and/or discussing wild propagation from cuttings. There is a study out right now on propagating them from cutting without rooting hormones. The fact that it took decades for them to get to that stage should tell all you need to know about government and institutional bureaucracy. You don't need any random idiot, you just need people that are passionate enough about it to learn it and then set them loose.","attachment":null,"posted":1714663284},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727305,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727049
>muh backyard science is just as good as legitimate science
kek","attachment":null,"posted":1714701619},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727321,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726960
Jannies are actively deleting posts to help keep the secret. Hope the sacred pines like roundup.","attachment":null,"posted":1714706108},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727305
Mainstream science as presented in universities' curriculums and government institutions is largely deliberate fraud. Legitimate science always starts from the individual on the fringe.","attachment":null,"posted":1714714776},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727620,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727342
>largely deliberate fraud
do you have an example of this? also of >legitimate science?","attachment":null,"posted":1714781962},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727621,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727342
you are a retard","attachment":null,"posted":1714782064},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727623,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727321
>threatening to destroy National Park property
Hold this L, senpai.","attachment":null,"posted":1714782587},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2727648,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727623
>property
Welcome newfag","attachment":null,"posted":1714788672},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2728282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727620
>>2727621
Michael Faraday
Schopenhauer
Goethe
Euler
Bohm (b1917)
Holtz
Toepler
Röntgen
Tesla
Ferraris
James Maxwell
Rupert Sheldrake (theories partially confirmed by epigenetic trauma inheritance in successive generations of animals, also people, and in the observer effect in consciousness, ironically this also feeds into separate but related and partially confirmed Bruce Lipton's work)
Thomas Henry Moray (work builds on dozens of others including Tesla in which electrostatic potential can be perpetually extracted from the atmosphere and earth via capacitors, hanging wires, grounded poles, step-up and step-down coils, and a subsequent electrostatic spark gap fed into a battery supply which will continuously ambiently charge it as long as an electrostatic potential difference exists between the earth and the air, which is constant and never reaches zero anywhere on earth)
By the way, there are hundreds of more examples. And my statement on the mainstream stands. All real science is fringe until it to becomes established dogma (a process that takes decades or centuries).","attachment":null,"posted":1714917193},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2728364,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2720237
Your not trying hard enough, you could easily find this area based off the rock type behind the pines, size of the pines vs gorge and rock wall behind and environment they grown in.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714928736841816.png","filename":"geoguess.png"},"posted":1714928736},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2728546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724625
Anon, careful use of AI could do all that shit in like a month tops if you used it to generate code to save time; less if you're just searching for topography and doing the visual inspections yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1714952501},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2728565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">have a rare real life mystery and potential expedition on your hands
>beg for coordinates instead of having fun and adventure","attachment":null,"posted":1714956679},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2730102,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728565
The coordinates are already ITT.","attachment":null,"posted":1715261322},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2730105,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730102
no they aren't","attachment":null,"posted":1715261654},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2732428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730105
Yes, they are.","attachment":null,"posted":1715808812},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2732536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2722172
>Kauir dieback
90% of the shoe cleaning stations don't even have fucking disinfectant in them because DOC are useless faggots. Not to mention that the deer, pigs, possums, birds and everything else that roams all over the soil, trees, roots and plants are responsible for spreading it, not some retards walking down a track. Kauri trees are donzo, they should just let people enjoy them while they still exist.","attachment":null,"posted":1715831371},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2733126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Wollemi bump","attachment":null,"posted":1715995452},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2733955,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726805
Lol nice","attachment":null,"posted":1716183606},{"board":"out","thread":2720237,"pid":2734010,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726805
Abo niggers must not have paid the 4chan jannies their monthly tendies and HRT allowance.","attachment":null,"posted":1716206636}]}
{"title":"A good yard","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728094,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How do I get my front yard and backyard to look as good as this yard?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714869662980649.jpg","filename":"IMG_0877.jpg"},"posted":1714869662},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728094
Aeration, fertilizer and water","attachment":null,"posted":1714872827},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728130,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728094
That looks like absolute shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1714873326},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728140,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728094
I can't imagine living in an HOA or allowing my yard to look that sterile by choice.","attachment":null,"posted":1714874219},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728141,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728124
>>2728130
>>2728140
These. If your soil is high in clay and low in organic matter then you should aerate your lawn and fill the holes with biochar to improve the soil texture. After that apply compost or manure (horse would be best) to restore the organic carbon in the soil. Manure should have enough nutrients, but if you use compost then hit it with a 10-10-10 fertilizer. Mycorrhizal fungi will help, especially if parts of your lawn are struggling while others are thriving. You should consider something other than grass for your lawn. Local or drought tolerant grasses would be better than a seed mix off the shelf. You could explore yarrow, clover, thyme, mint, moss, and a wide variety of other turf options.","attachment":null,"posted":1714874673},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728141
Thanks a lot, but could this still work if my yard is a sandy one?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714878128131985.jpg","filename":"IMG_0886.jpg"},"posted":1714878128},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728272,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728154
The biochar will still help your soil retain more nutrients, but it won't improve the soil texture of sand. I think you want to go the other direction and add more clay and way more compost and manure. Calcium bentonite clay is the best clay soil amendment in my opinion, but if you're having trouble finding it then you can get unscented clay cat liter, which is sodium bentonite, instead. Sodium bentonite is 25% sodium and it will slowly leech into your soil so I'd recommend picking up some kind of calcium source like limestone or oyster shells and mix them together. You can do the math to compensate for the sodium exactly, or you can mix them about evenly and you'll have some excess calcium. Compost and manure are going to be the most important for your lawn. The organic matter will glue everything together and prevent nutrients from leeching out of your soil as quickly. Definitely explore other turf options and maybe consider using some of it to grow tomatoes. Tomatoes love sandy soil.","attachment":null,"posted":1714915072},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728286,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728141
>>2728154
>>2728272
Here's a soil texture triangle that you can use to estimate how much clay you need to add. You want to aim for any kind of loam.","attachment":null,"posted":1714917679},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728289,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728286
I'm an idiot. Here's the triangle.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714917871287050.png","filename":"600px-SoilTexture_USDA.svg.png"},"posted":1714917871},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728292,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728289
But who tf is Sandy Loam?","attachment":null,"posted":1714918349},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728316,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728094
Absolutely soulless. I prefer the meadow or wildflower look rather than the industrial golf course look.","attachment":null,"posted":1714920978},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728319,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728292
I think her maiden name might be Sandy Clay, which means she's also Sandy Clay Loam. Do you think this Silty bitch is related? And who exactly is Clay?","attachment":null,"posted":1714921346},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728326,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728316
name one golf course that's industrial","attachment":null,"posted":1714922597},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728338,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728326
any golf course is industrial if you wear your nine inch nails golf polo","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714924684484525.jpg","filename":"691625D9-BB00-4205-9D4E-5EB275F550DA.jpg"},"posted":1714924684},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728326
You know that maintaining a golf green requires a four year degree, right? It's because you're forcing the grass to grow in such an unnatural and unhealthy way that nearly anything will kill it. Your main job is to go around hosing down brown spots with fungicide and cutting out sections of grass to replace with a specialty sod. If you think that a golf course is an ideal lawn then you need to re-examine meadows and natural grassland.","attachment":null,"posted":1714925319},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728340
>whoa a chance to give some big retarded lecture","attachment":null,"posted":1714925650},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728341
https://www.unlv.edu/pga/curriculum","attachment":null,"posted":1714925770},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728354,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728094
>no fruit trees
NGMI","attachment":null,"posted":1714927728},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728362,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728326
All of them, retard. You ever see one get built?","attachment":null,"posted":1714928441},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728417,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728154
You're going to want to remove the dead clumps of grass and probably in inch or more of that sand, then bring in topsoil and backfill the volume of sand you removed. Run a tamper or roller over it, apply seed and starter fertilizer, water twice a day till the grass is thick, and stay the hell off it--try to to walk on the new grass until it had enough time to establish.
I've fought this battle--there is no topsoil where i live, but I can get unlimited topsoil from my township, which is a plus.
t. NJ pine barrens","attachment":null,"posted":1714934677},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728419,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728417
>try NOT to walk on the new grass","attachment":null,"posted":1714934745},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728094
Why the fuck do you want a manicured piece of grass?
>>2728124
If you insist on being stupid, this. In addition, find yourself a broadleaf spray that doesn't kill grass. It'll take care of most weeds. Reseed thin spots, water daily, fertilize weekly, aerate yearly. Mow every 3 days, don't collect clippings in a bag, it's better to mulch them up.","attachment":null,"posted":1714934810},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728420
A pound of salt in a gallon of water is a good broad leaf herbicide. It doesn't kill most grasses.","attachment":null,"posted":1714935099},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728340
>Four year degree
No it doesn't
>Unhealthy and unnatural
Yes
>Nearly anything will kill it
False. It's grown in a way to be extremely resistant to extreme levels of foot/cart traffic and people quite literally beating the shit out of it with clubs.
>Cutting out sections of grass
I've never seen this as a part of any golf courses maintenance program
>Brown spot with fungicide
What's one fungus that causes browning of grass?
>Golf course isn't ideal lawn
But it is. Lawns are dumb as hell but you won't find a better kept lawn than a golf course. If you don't want a lawn, go after a garden, wildflowers, or just let everything go like in the wild.
I know plenty of people at the golf course. I'm on first name basis with more than a few of the people that maintain my favorite courses in the area. We chat about this stuff often because it's related to my industry. Golf courses don't really qualify as /out/ but they do know a few things about keeping highly manicured grass.","attachment":null,"posted":1714935401},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728431,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728427
Then ask them about the green stuff and if they use specialty sod. If it's "properly" managed then they'll tell you all about the time they spend cutting out and replacing diseased grass.","attachment":null,"posted":1714935616},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728094
why don't you just let it grow bro, have more grass in your yard let mother nature be in your yard.","attachment":null,"posted":1714937071},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728094
Overwater. Weed and feed early in the season. Aerate it. Cut it short. Make sure to reseed it in the spring.","attachment":null,"posted":1714938026},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728431
Every course I frequent grows it in place. You know grass is an extremely hardy plant that's down right difficult to kill, even with a bunch of chemicals in it to speed up it's growth or help it's color. I find it funny that's the only counter point you have to my post as well. Sorry you know shit about grass and less about golf. Maybe keep quite next time around.","attachment":null,"posted":1714958697},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2728583,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728578
You can keep your head in the sand for as long as you want.","attachment":null,"posted":1714960006},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2730349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728417
Some of my first /out/ings were in the NJ pine barrens as a kid. I remember an abandoned water park","attachment":null,"posted":1715306869},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2730681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Grass is worthless. Torch it.
The US spends 300 BILLION on chopping grass annually. GRASS IS WORTHLESS. GROW ANYTHING OTHER THAN GRASS.","attachment":null,"posted":1715385882},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2730682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728154
grow ephedra. and dig a few wide holes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715385943},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2731011,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728141
Genuine question, since you sound like you know what you're talking about.
>After that apply compost or manure (horse would be best) to restore the organic carbon in the soil
I put horse manure in my soil 1 year ago, and today when I was planting some stuff, I found undecayed clods of horse manure which looked exactly how they did when I buried them.
So I'm guessing your advice doesn't apply to me for some reason? I have heavy clay soil that is waterlogged for most of the year. But I think it actually preserves anything you put in it. It doesn't decompose due to lack of oxygen.
The best results I've had were from putting well-rotted manure and organic matter or compost into it.
Also I'm guessing your advice is mostly tailored to a US audience. You talk of drought tolerance, where I have water logged lawn 8 months of the year and live in an environment that's cold most of the year.","attachment":null,"posted":1715468940},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2731147,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731011
Nah, the advice is general. Your specific situation would require something a little different though. The reason your manure looks the same is partly because anaerobic decomposition (which would dominate in waterlogged soils) is much slower than aerobic decomposition and partly because a good portion the nutrients have likely been leached out leaving the carbon without enough nitrogen to decompose. That's okay though and the persistence of the organic matter is why I recommend horse manure for lawns over other manures. There are a lot of benefits to having high levels of soil organic matter.
>where I have water logged lawn 8 months of the year and live in an environment that's cold most of the year.
You would benefit from adding drainage and maybe a small pond. Dig trenches (~0.25-1 meter deep and maybe 0.25m wide) from places that water stands to a storage pond, water garden, or drainage pit. There should be a slight grade to the trenches (~1-2%) to help them drain and you don't want and dips in the trench where the water can puddle. Cover the bottom of the trench with gravel or crushed lump charcoal, which drains better, and lay down drain tube, drain tile, or more gravel/charcoal. Use sand or a finer grade of charcoal to fill in the space around your drain and to cover it by a few centimeters (~3-5) and top it with your topsoil and reseed or fill the rest of the way with gravel/charcoal if you want to use the drain as an accent for your yard.","attachment":null,"posted":1715522457},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2732267,"name":"JUSTlandscaper","msg":"Start with the lawn you've got, not the lawn you want. Assess the soil, take out some little cores with a pipe. Is it clay? Sandy? Test over the whole lawn not just the bits that look weird.
What kind of grass have you got? Is it one kind? All different kinds, shit that's probably a weed?
The solution depends entirely on your problem and what you want to achieve, so I won't even give advice to people who haven't done a proper assessment","attachment":null,"posted":1715775085},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2732272,"name":"JUSTlandscaper","msg":">>2731147
French drains are great but this assumes that the lawn isn't in a low point too begin with, and sometimes water logging is symptomatic of compaction and lack of coring in which case a French drain would only be catching runoff.
I never recommend manure as fertiliser, small scale you go with liquid base, on acerage you're usually looking at granular due to cost. You can make your own liquid fertiliser from manure in a tank if you've got land so there's really no reason to apply it directly in my opinion.
I've theorised that you could just a testla pump to siphon from an underground tank which you might place at a low point and run your French drains into. Amphitheatre courtyards, golf courses, places where contouring was JUST.","attachment":null,"posted":1715775932},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2732274,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"There's also a reason people collect clippings, it's to reduce thatching and because ordinary lawn mowers throw clumps of clippings. It looks bad, it will always look bad especially if you're not mowing regularly.
Timing of fertiliser is important or you'll promote weeds and retard transitional lawns.
Over large areas there are a bunch of herbicides to choose from, choose carefully. Dicamba+mcpa is common but will kill buffalo and clover. You may need a spooky winter grass killer if you've got a fine turf.","attachment":null,"posted":1715776326},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2732281,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732272
I didn't assume anything, I told him to dig out a lower point to drain the water to. Installing a pond isn't the easiest thing to do, but I know people who would love to have his problems.
>You can make your own liquid fertiliser from manure in a tank if you've got land so there's really no reason to apply it directly in my opinion.
You can also make it with a 5 gallon buckets on your porch and apply it with a backpack sprayer. The reason to apply it directly, or apply the residue from making the manure tea, would be to help maintain soil organic matter which is essential for soil health. You could just use synthetic fertilizers and tons of compost to get the same results, but manure is common enough that you can usually find it for cheap or free.
>>2732274
>because ordinary lawn mowers throw clumps of clippings.
This is why reel mowers are superior.
>there are a bunch of herbicides to choose from
I like to use a pound of table salt in a gallon of water. It will kill most things, but it shouldn't kill grass or well established clover as long as you wait two weeks between applications. Some weeds like dandelions need multiple applications, and it won't work on halophytes, but for the majority of weeds it's safe and effective. You can look up "salt based herbicide" for more details.","attachment":null,"posted":1715779409},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2732301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732272
>>2732281
>I've theorised that you could just a testla pump to siphon from an underground tank which you might place at a low point and run your French drains into.
I forgot to say that I'm having trouble visualizing what you're talking about. Can you elaborate?","attachment":null,"posted":1715785059},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2732302,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ahh Summer. Where at any given time you can hear some person mowing","attachment":null,"posted":1715785060},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2732304,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732302
That's another reason reel mowers are superior.","attachment":null,"posted":1715786091},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2732308,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728094
Assuming you don't have any ant colonies or underground root systems that are tapping the sod dry from below:
>set your lawnmower to its highest setting
>aerate every year or two
>weed and feed.
Regular watering if you want it to look really good.","attachment":null,"posted":1715788176},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2732325,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730349
I like it here. If there were no pine barrens I would have left Jersey by now. There's all sorts of abandoned stuff everywhere, some going back to the 1700's. It's challenging to grow stuff here tho...the topsoil is maybe 2-3" thick and it stunts the pines and anything else growing here.
The previous owner of my place (half acre in a little neighborhood in the middle of nowhere) mowed down the natural flora and put grass and other non-indiginous (?) shrubs and trees here. I'm slowly doing away with a lot of the grass and planting natural stuff to make it more like the Pine Barrens and less like something it's not.","attachment":null,"posted":1715791382},{"board":"out","thread":2728094,"pid":2732328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731011
If you have a mower, and it's early in the season, set your mower to a very low setting, remove the bag if you have one, and go over the lawn slowly. This might be enough to crush and break up the clods of manure, or hopefully they will get sucked up into the blades and chopped up.","attachment":null,"posted":1715791568}]}
{"title":"How the fuck do you solo camp in USA?","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728510,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Only reason I use a tent is in summer for snakes, mosquitos and spiders. In winter and colder months I try just sleep under the stars.
In saying that, we don’t have big animals here that will fuck your life up.
Don’t actually know what I’d do if camping in the US. I’d be terrified of being taken by a fucking wild cat. That thought of that is just insane to me lol.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714949631439681.jpg","filename":"h6k9rbecdpp51.jpg"},"posted":1714949631},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
1. Be aware.
2. Be armed.
3. Be in comms.
4. Don't give a fuck.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714951586458972.jpg","filename":"1646707726241.jpg"},"posted":1714951586},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
I've camped, solo, several times in the same are I've caught mountain lions and black bears. I've never seen them while out there. Just tracks, scratch marks and trail cam video. I do carry bear spray and a 9mm handgun(ccw) But I don't think I'll ev er actually have to use them. Both mentioned animals generally go out of their way to avoid us. When there is an encounter, it's usually a surprise on both ends. Unless either is with a cub or feels cornered, they'll choose retreat. Even if there is a cub, they're more likely to grab it and run than to actually attack.
That said, in areas where they are re-introducing wolves, I'd suggest only camping in numbers. Fucking retarded activists, they don't understand that the only reason we're no longer afraid of the "big bad wolf" is because we killed them all! It was only after this that outdoor recreation became possible for the average city dweller. They'll learn. Fucking pisses me off that we'll all suffer for it though. One of the OR packs has been seen in my CA county and one of the CO packs has been seen a couple counties to the south.","attachment":null,"posted":1714951670},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
^caught on trail cams... not traps. lost my train of thought.","attachment":null,"posted":1714951731},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
>Stay noided
>carry a gun","attachment":null,"posted":1714951802},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728541,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728533
Do you set up a cam or two in the area when you're camping? I've been considering this, you could rig it to an app on your phone and have a little forewarning of the local fauna bumping around at night without leaving your tent. I know next to nothing of trailcams though, so it's a learning curve for me.","attachment":null,"posted":1714952172},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728542,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728541
>nb4 stop talking about gear and go outside.
No, I am prepared to do my patriotic duty and consume in this case.","attachment":null,"posted":1714952233},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728541
I have several trail cameras around the area, along popular animal travel routs. I do have another camera that I set up to see if anything passes through my camp, either when I'm not there or sleeping. I seldom see anything. Saw a house cat once...all the way out here! Saw a ringtail once, some squirrels, birds, but nothing big. On the long term cameras I've seen bears, mountain lions, bobcats, deer, turkey, quail, ringtails, foxes, skunks, raccoons, many smaller flying birds, squirrels(ground and tree), coyotes, cows(AG land a couple miles away) and a fisher. I'm sure I'm forgetting something. Lots of wildlife out there.","attachment":null,"posted":1714952812},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728549,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728548
Watching your own camp is smart. how much does a good trail cam cost? I think I'll get a cheap one and mess around with it next time I'm out.","attachment":null,"posted":1714953169},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
It’s been 30 years since they put wolves back in Yellowstone. There hasn’t been a single dangerous encounter despite millions of people in the back country. Same with the boundary waters in Minnesota. Thousands of wolves, zero deaths.","attachment":null,"posted":1714956448},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728568,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728561
That have been reported....
https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/exploration-survival/leave-no-trace/","attachment":null,"posted":1714957251},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728572,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728561
https://trailandsummit.com/which-national-park-has-the-most-disappearances/
As mentioned above, current statistics hold that there are only 29 open cold cases relating to missing people in state parks. Independent researchers estimate this number is about 1100-1600. Given that over 600,000 people go missing each year in the United States, this is still a relatively low number – but significantly higher than the official statistics show.
Reporting dangerous animal attacks tends to discourage tourism. Wolves have been one of the primary predators of man, until their numbers were greatly curtailed. It only follows that re-introducing them will lead to the same outcome.","attachment":null,"posted":1714958084},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728575,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ticks and skeeters are the only thing to worry about. Maybe you don’t have diabetes as bad as us being euro but I can’t even feel when I’m skeeter bit or got ticks latch unless I happen to see it. I’ll have dozens on my legs when I take a look.","attachment":null,"posted":1714958301},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
They should introduce siberian tigers in the north, african lions and cheetahs in the plains, restore grizzlies to their former range and clone and release smilodon, cave bears and mammoths.
Stay in the city, if you can't handle being around a couple big animals.","attachment":null,"posted":1714961387},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728593
Sounds like your typical Collage Urban Liberal Type response...","attachment":null,"posted":1714961559},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728568
>in places where there are no wolves
>derp
>>2728572
None of those places have wolves so…
> Reporting dangerous animal attacks tends to discourage tourism
This is just exceptionally retarded cope. People who get killed by wild animals don’t get swept under the rug you stupid Cunt. You hear about every dangerous grizzly encounter that happens it’s newsworthy. Any mountain lion attack gets reported the same would be true with wolves. It just doesn’t happen.","attachment":null,"posted":1714962087},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
>I’d be terrified of being taken by a fucking wild cat.
That doesn't happen.","attachment":null,"posted":1714962118},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728595
First story in Denver
Second covers all 50 states and specifically mentions Yellowstone
good job proving you're a headline reading ignorant faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1714962393},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728598
denver...colorado...whatever","attachment":null,"posted":1714962542},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728600,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
Niggers kill 147 times more people per year than grizzlies, black bears, cougars, and wolves combined throughout the last 100 years...
But it is good to keep people afraid so citidiots dont shit up my outdoors","attachment":null,"posted":1714962592},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728602,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728595
wolves are their pet project, they could be held liable if the reintroduced wolves attacked or killed anyone. Of course they have clear motivation to cover it up. Who's coping now?","attachment":null,"posted":1714962698},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728610,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
Real practical question, what do you do if you see a cougar and its not immediately backing off? I think I wouldn't hesitate to shoot at it, but I figure there would be dumb consequences","attachment":null,"posted":1714963781},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728602
> Who's coping now?
You are. There hasn’t been a fatal wolf attack in the lower 48 in 150 years. Wolves have been in one of the most heavily visited national parks in the country for 30 years there hasn’t been a single aggressive wolf encounter","attachment":null,"posted":1714968302},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
Research cameras in the Whetstone Mountains in AZ recorded a jaguar around the same time I went solo camping 5 miles in. A fucking jaguar. Just chilling out there with me. I wish I could see one.
The Pinaleno Mountains supposedly have the highest concentration of black bears in the US. I've tent camped there many times (not solo though) and never seen a bear there.
My wife and I were several miles into the Rincons, close to the backpack-only campsite where we were headed, and found fresh bear shit on the trail. We were the only people in the campsite that night, probably the only people for several miles around. Didn't see any bears, nothing went bump in the night. Sad.","attachment":null,"posted":1714970829},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
A pack of coyotes could also punch my ticket. Seen them take down 600lb elk. But I don’t scurry away with my tail between my legs when they start yapping on that cold night.","attachment":null,"posted":1714971140},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728667,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
Wolves are fucking cool. If you can't handle being harassed by a pack of wolves all night you're pussy who shouldn't go /out/. Stop fucking complaining that you get to experience such a cool.animal that has such an important history with mankind.","attachment":null,"posted":1714976535},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728572
Based Wolves.","attachment":null,"posted":1714976655},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728669,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728602
Wolves are also your pet hate, word gets around in small rural towns where locals all hate wolves and like fuck they'd keep that quiet. It'd be all over every hunting media, you'd be telling us all about it right now. But instead you're telling us some /x/ level conspiracy about how they're hiding wolf deaths.","attachment":null,"posted":1714976828},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728572
>600,000 people go missing each year
Most are found within a few days. Mostly runaways or non-custodial parents taking the kid.
"Luckily, the vast majority of missing persons cases are quickly resolved. For example, in 2021, 521,705 missing person cases were reported, more than 485,000 of which were resolved within the year."
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/missing-persons-by-state","attachment":null,"posted":1714978264},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728752,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
One time, I was driving to the airport from a week backpacking Glacier NP. I noticed movement near the small animal pen on a Blackfoot indian reservation. I stopped because it was a mountain lion, an absolutely gorgeous cat, and he was sniffing the pen with no aggression on display. He marked a fence post with rubbing and spray and then glanced at my truck nonchalantly and slowly walked across my path into a small patch of corn stalks. This cat seemed about nine feet Iong from stem to stern. It was probably used to hunting jackrabbits and hares and it almost certainly would have kept away from a person innawoods. While they do attack people, it's extremely rare because N. American cats don't want to risk injury or death when smaller game is so plentiful.
Now coastal brown bears and grizzlies are scarey. When I venture near them, I always carry 44 or larger hand cannons loaded with appropriate bear medicine.
Oh yeah, I aktually go /out / instead of pretending.","attachment":null,"posted":1714999129},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
the really fucked up part is how far their territory has spread and how hard forestry and government try to cover it up. I grew up in middle TN where there are "no big cats definitively!" about 15 years ago someone hit a fucking black panther on the fucking highway. now ok, I guess this could have been one of those pet big cats that got loose and no one claimed it because legal reasons, but there are countless trail cam vids of mountain lions all over the east coast, but they will deny it because muh tourism. so the best thing you can do if you encounter a fucking mountain lion around your property is kill it, bury it as deep as possible, and never speak a word of it. shits. fucked.","attachment":null,"posted":1715000704},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728561
lol you think the fucking national parks would tell ANYONE that someone was attacked/killed by a wolf? just another missing 411 case nothing to see here, ignore the shovel covered in blood an dirt in the back of my truck good sir! I'm a forrest ranger!","attachment":null,"posted":1715001067},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728762,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728575
do you not have hair on your legs? that's how I always feel ticks is them crawling through my body hair looking for a warm place to latch.","attachment":null,"posted":1715001225},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728764,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I would like to thank all the pussies who are afraid to play innawoods. Hopefully, you will inspire others like your fellow defectives to remain at home and stay outta my beautiful /out/. Also, we're full here.","attachment":null,"posted":1715001331},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728765,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728610
you better have a big enough gun and not miss","attachment":null,"posted":1715001518},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728572
>>2728602
>>2728760
>>2728761
I'm gonna need some substanitative proof that big ecology and big tourism is covering up wolf and cougar attacks but not bear attacks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715008686},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
I wanna eat him","attachment":null,"posted":1715009623},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728822,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728810
I don't have proof they are covering up attacks, but I have first hand experience with cougar denial in Appalachia. they refuse to acknowledge their existence because it will effect tourism.","attachment":null,"posted":1715010153},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728822
There aren't supposed to be cougars in central Texas either. But I saw a roadkill cougar heading from Ft. Worth down to Lockhart. Pretty substantive evidence there's at least one.","attachment":null,"posted":1715011569},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728853,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"the only thing to really worry about is brown bears. all the other shit usually stays away from you. cats are naturally skittish and avoid detection in most cases. more people are attacked by moose than wolves, cats, hyenas, sharks, and bears combined. stay the fuck out of the way of the moose. kek","attachment":null,"posted":1715014443},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728761
There’s only been one missing person case in Yellowstone in the last 50 years and that’s from before they even put wolves back. When people get attacked by dangerous animals it’s not something they can hide. Somebody gets as much as a scratch from a grizzly bear. It’s front page news. Never mind that there are plenty of wolves outside of the park in the surrounding national forest with lots of people hunting and trapping wolves, and yet still no reports of a single dangerous encounter.
Your cope is so retarded. What the fuck is your problem?
https://www.nps.gov/orgs/1563/cold-cases.htm","attachment":null,"posted":1715015177},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728864,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728856
I don't believe (((statistics))) from the same people who lie about literally everything else, I guess that's my problem.","attachment":null,"posted":1715016602},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
It takes months and over a thousand shekels for me to get a ccw where I'm at. How fugged would it be bringing my water gun out crossing several state lines?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715018410188132.png","filename":"1712642170386903.png"},"posted":1715018410},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728878,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728864
You have to understand the dynamics surrounding wolves. The NPS and surrounding towns love them because of the tourist money. A lot of the other locals hate them, and would be sure to capitalize on any dangerous wolf encounter. Hundreds are hunted and trapped every year. Wolves around here pretty much avoid humans at all cost- how that dude hit one with a snowmobile I have no idea. Grizzly bears are far more dangerous to humans than wolves.","attachment":null,"posted":1715019030},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728885,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728878
that makes logical sense, and I've never really thought wolves were a problem for humans unless you're in a no guns state, but for livestock it won't be good if they are allowed to spread. also, if they avoid humans at all costs, why would they being in more tourist money? genuine question.","attachment":null,"posted":1715019981},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728893,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728885
>genuine question
Part of it is the way Yellowstone is. Most of the wolf sightings take place in the Lamar Valley, which is a wide expansive, mostly treeless valley with a few rivers running through it. People set up spotting scopes, and can watch packs from a mile or two away. It’s not like coming across the grizzly bear grazing through a field next to the road oblivious to the tourons. Occasionally you might see a wolf cross the road but packs are never hanging out anywhere close to humans. I go to Yellowstone frequently several times a year. I’ve never seen a wolf closer than a mile away.","attachment":null,"posted":1715021565},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728822
Again, need something concrete instead of a claim. Like a link to a press release by the tourism industry that denies a population of cougars
>>2728837
Similarly, did they claim zero cougars recently or are you basing it off of something you read a while ago?
https://youtu.be/zZsdkYrsg3I?si=zjOHwwb3OWh78Jw3
https://tpwmagazine.com/archive/2018/mar/scout5_wildthing_mountainlion/","attachment":null,"posted":1715022187},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728593
based","attachment":null,"posted":1715026340},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728977,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728561
>There hasn’t been a single dangerous encounter despite millions of people in the back country.
Because the wolf population is still nothing like it was 100 years ago.
>>2728596
>That doesn't happen.
Only because people have guns.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jxCyQStwLUE","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715034821709040.png","filename":"wolvesgreentext.png"},"posted":1715034821},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728979,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">cougar denial","attachment":null,"posted":1715035100},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728980,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728977
Meanwhile in Russia:
>In the winter of 2010-11, a "super pack" of wolves numbering up to 400 reportedly terrorized the Russian town of Verkhoyansk (population 1,300) in northern region of Yakutia, one of the remotest inhabited areas in the northern hemisphere. More than 30 horses were killed in just four days, according to local officials, and teams of hunters were established to patrol neighborhoods and shoot the wolves on sight. Animal experts suspicious of the claims say that wolves usually form packs of no more than 10 to 15 animals, although the particularly harsh winter may have killed off the wolves' usual prey, forcing them to attack larger animals.
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/largest-wolf-pack","attachment":null,"posted":1715035165},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728981,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
its just a kitty cat anon give him a pet","attachment":null,"posted":1715035294},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2728985,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
I've been hunted by several cougars in my younger days, but in my mid 30s they seem to leave me alone now.","attachment":null,"posted":1715036057},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
canada here. I've camped a lot in remote parts of the rockies and in ontario. Wolves are a least concern. I have only seen one once in my life and once had them howling all night 50 m from where i was camped (totally alone) and also they are prevalent where i own some land in ontario and I never ever have problems. Your chance of being attacked by a bear is far, far, greater. That being said, like you said most animals try to avoid people. But I'd be more careful in spring and fall especially. Cougars scare the ever loving shit out of me and I've had a large adult grizzly sauntering my way within 50m and just calmly walked away without much concern. Anyway, any animal can be dangerous given the right conditions.","attachment":null,"posted":1715186975},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729880,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728856
He was rejected by a female wolf and now hates all of them","attachment":null,"posted":1715208459},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
yea over here bears and cougar's are as numerous as rabbits. its crazy. one out of every two camping trips i get chased by something. whatever.","attachment":null,"posted":1715209525},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729904,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Imagine fighting off a 180 pound male cougar without a firearm","attachment":null,"posted":1715212731},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
Gun....
More gun....
Also a knife.
Stay strapped or get clapped.","attachment":null,"posted":1715214699},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729920,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729904
why bring a firearm when brass knuckles will do the trick?","attachment":null,"posted":1715216388},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729920
Why bring brass knuckles when you can use your dick?","attachment":null,"posted":1715216496},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729922
hey now we're talkin!","attachment":null,"posted":1715217250},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729943,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729929
It's a cougar, I don't need weapon. Compliments and wine and you're set.","attachment":null,"posted":1715221453},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729948,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729943
the original post was talking about a male cougar, just thought id remind you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715222412},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2729952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729943
Because it's like a cougar like AN OLDER WOMAN LMAO HOLY SHIT DUDE HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL","attachment":null,"posted":1715222859},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730034,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728837
I saw a cougar in CenTex in the middle of the city when I was pretty young. Was in some woods next to a major hospital. Saw another in a corn field also in the city but on the outskirts.","attachment":null,"posted":1715238689},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730055,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
Looks surprisingly easy to fap to
Way easier than I expected","attachment":null,"posted":1715245744},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730069,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
>How the fuck do you solo camp in USA
you don't, sorry bud ;)
shouldn't have imported niggers","attachment":null,"posted":1715252915},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
> Fucking retarded activists
Wolves are a vital part of the ecosystem and they’re preferable to yotes.
The only retards here are you. If you’re having a dangerous encounter, just use your gun and bear spray.
>>2728837
> There aren't supposed to be cougars in central Texas
Bullshit they’re all over the continental US. Out West they’re common but in the central and eastern USA, their numbers are far less due to habitat loss and hunting. We even have a few mountain lions here in southern ohio that cross over the river from Kentucky.
Knowing Texas with its massive ranches, the state and the industries that control it lupe probably prefer the extinction of these big cats for the sake of their cows.","attachment":null,"posted":1715258555},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730089,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729948
And?
>>2729952
If you don't shut up I'll compliment and get you drunk off cheap wine, then I'll dick you down.","attachment":null,"posted":1715259021},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You're far more likely to encounter a wandering pitbull anywhere you go in the western world these days. People just let them roam. I can't tell you how many time I've had that happen.","attachment":null,"posted":1715259302},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728561
because that's a tourist area. full of cars and large groups. Plus there are brown bears to worry about.","attachment":null,"posted":1715259379},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730091
>free dog
The elites don't want you to know","attachment":null,"posted":1715262209},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730159,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730091
Blast the heckin’ pupperino and tell the fuzz it was charging at you. Police and paramedics typically have a great disdain for the pit bull menace.","attachment":null,"posted":1715273004},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730109
>free inbred dog
>will have to deal with its inbred owners later on
Shit breed for shit people.","attachment":null,"posted":1715273825},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730083
Cougar denial strikes again","attachment":null,"posted":1715274461},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730169,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728610
Shoot it and get the hell out of there, dont tell a soul, and definitely dont report it to FWP. After how they try and crucify anyone who dares defend themselves against a grizzly, mtn lion, wolf, or nigger.
It sucks thats the society we live in now, but it is designed to protect criminals from law abiding citizens, not the other way around.
Eat shit Montana FWP, you spermburping pozzed faggots. One day you will be made to remember who you work for, and it isnt these califaggots invading and ruining our state.","attachment":null,"posted":1715274704},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730170,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728667
Wolves are wiping out big game in the north western u.s. you obviously know fuck all about them besides whatever jewtube videos or natgeo propaganda youve watched.","attachment":null,"posted":1715274798},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728760
Twra repeatedly denied for years that there were ANY cougars in Tn. Once trail cams became popular they could no longer deny it outright. They were terrified people wouldnt hunt as much anymore due to fear of being attacked..which is also stupid. Twra is a joke. Dont get me started on their abysmal handling of the CWD outbreak","attachment":null,"posted":1715275169},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730091
I can't wait for the "muh ebil pibble" phase to be over. Used to be dobermans, then it was rottweilers, next it should be something like yorkies","attachment":null,"posted":1715276060},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730177,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730176
dobermans and rottweilers have never attacked or killed as many people. in fact, probably all doberman and rottweiler attacks combined throughout the entire history don't even equal pitbull attacks in a single year, lmao. if you agree that certain breeds like terriers are more neurotoc because they were bred for different things, why do you deny that shitbulls are just backyard bred hyper agressive breeds too? the mental gymnastics of a pitbull owner kek.","attachment":null,"posted":1715276317},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730181,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730176
> "muh ebil pibble" phase to be over
fucking municipalities are revoking their anti-shitbull laws to appease the godless baby killers and race mixers that own them. Any sort of “phase” is the wave of regret of not exterminating those dogs in their pounds or keeping these laws.","attachment":null,"posted":1715276814},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730184,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730177
I never said anything about breeds being neurotic, nor do I own a dog. It's just boring to see a bunch of shut-ins repeatedly posting murder fantasies like they wouldn't immediately get ventilated if they killed someone's dog. It'd be funny to see posts like "don't let your teacup shi tzu off leash around me, everyone knows they're cold-blooded killing machines"","attachment":null,"posted":1715277230},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730190,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730184
you're delusional if you think a shi-zu on the loose is a threat in comparison to a shitbull on the loose. lmao.","attachment":null,"posted":1715278106},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730215,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730171
thanks for the back up","attachment":null,"posted":1715284619},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730225,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CoqigF0uf3w Joe Rogan Vs Grizzly","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715287182327198.jpg","filename":"Savage 110 Scout.jpg"},"posted":1715287182},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730229,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730190
>but but but reading is so much harder than hating dogs
Yes anon, the point was to pick a dog that is especially non-threatening. That's why I said it would be funny. Try to keep up.","attachment":null,"posted":1715288013},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730257,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730170
>Wolves are wiping out big game in the north western u.s
Bullshit. Montana's elk herd is at a record high and bigger than it was 10yrs ago.","attachment":null,"posted":1715293750},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730258,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730169
>After how they try and crucify anyone who dares defend themselves against a grizzly
hunters kill griz in self defense all the time. they dont get crucified","attachment":null,"posted":1715293816},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730261,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730093
>because that's a tourist area. full of cars and large groups
>3000 square miles.
Yellowstone gets a couple hundred thousand over night back country visitors a year. thats millions of visitors over 30yrs away from the crowds and still nothing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715294041},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728977
>Because the wolf population is still nothing like it was 100 years ago.
in the 3000 square miles of Yellowstone, its likely that the wolf population is quite similar to thatof pre-white man- in this specific area- as the wolf packs and population have stabilized and pretty much reached capacity for the park. ...and yet, there have been milions of more people in the area over the last 30yrs than there ever have been before so theres that","attachment":null,"posted":1715294283},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730225
Good rifle, a bit heavy though(for a scout rifle). I haul it around when hunting, but I wouldn't want to hail it everywhere all the time while /out/ With scope and 10 rounds in the mag it's less than 10 lbs, so not really heavy either. But it's not nothing. I carry bear spray and a 9mm. Don't plan or expect to ever have to use either, just a case of I'd rather have and not need than need and not have. I'd feel really silly if I were attacked by a wild animal and I didn't have them on me, knowing I had them and could have. The 9mm is in a CCW holster and I'm used to wearing it all day anyway. The bear spray is a tad bit more cumbersome, it's not small enough to easily fit in your pocket. But not so large that you can't find a spot for it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715308801984220.jpg","filename":"Savage 110 Scout 308win.jpg"},"posted":1715308801},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730725,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730357
Why put a scope on it if you are worry about weight. with 10 round and no scope you are talking less 9 pounds.","attachment":null,"posted":1715393649},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730735,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730725
I'm not concerned with it while I'm hunting, I said it's not that heavy. I just wouldn't want to have to haul it around every time I went out. It's cumbersome. It has nothing to do with the scope. I was just giving an estimate of total weight that I carry it around with, when I do, during hunting trips. A one pound difference is nothing and wouldn't change anything. I just don't see any reason to take it everywhere when I have lighter, easier to carry alternatives for a near zero chance encounter.
As for heavy for a scout rifle, that's a category standard I didn't set. Just saying it doesn't meet the official Jeff Cooper standard.","attachment":null,"posted":1715395199},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730742,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
I carry a bag of catnip and an Egyptian Rasheed. The cat must choose, peace or death.","attachment":null,"posted":1715396972},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
https://youtu.be/BXhfZRE08ko?si=cB8E8K8qL-6R5bY7&t=36
dont be such a wimp. They're gentle creatures","attachment":null,"posted":1715408020},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2730815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Only have cougars and black bear to worry about on my usual spot. Cougars might get nosey and sneak up on you at night but won't attack you. Don't be a retard and eat anywhere close to where you sleep and either hang your food or have a bear canister a good ditance from where you sleep. Also sleep with a flashlight/headlamp and pistol within reach.","attachment":null,"posted":1715422866},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731013,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730735
You are probably right, the Rossi R92 Triple Black, Wood, Black Cerakote, .44 Mag, 16 in would be liter.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715469399350981.jpg","filename":"Rossi-R92-Lead.jpg"},"posted":1715469399},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731072,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731013
I love my Rossi, but I'd prefer my shockwave over it.
>Lite.
>Can blast all shorts of shit.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715488611448379.jpg","filename":"20240510-172009_Gallery.jpg"},"posted":1715488611},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731073,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731013
Not sure if you're trolling or just not getting it. It still has little to do with the weight, it's about carrying a long gun, any long gun. They're just not convenient to carry around. Especially for an encounter you have a near zero percent chance of being in.","attachment":null,"posted":1715489097},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731075,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
Solo camped a few times.
The big thing is bring a gun. There are both two and four legged threats, that you probably won't have to deal with. That said, they exist, and so does the solution.
I prefer to camp during winter. I'm down south, so it's get muggy without usually freezing. If I can get a fire going, and if I have enough water, I'm just fine. Bugs won't bug you during the winter.
It's a nice way to get out, smoke a cigar or two, maybe drink some whiskey, and read a book.
Summer camping kind of sucks, because you need to keep spraying everything with DEET and that's kind of lame.","attachment":null,"posted":1715489955},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731079,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728677
what an interesting way to say 40k people go missing with no answers after 12 months","attachment":null,"posted":1715491444},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731082,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730229
so when were you diagnosed?","attachment":null,"posted":1715491840},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731099,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731073
Pistols are just so limit. You are talking 10 or maybe 30 yards.","attachment":null,"posted":1715498592},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730742
A fellow Rasheed owner?
On /out/ of all places?
Nice.","attachment":null,"posted":1715538318},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731604,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728602
So there's not going to be even a single case where someone (or even a group) was attacked by wolves but survived to tell about it, as there are with every other large predator?","attachment":null,"posted":1715613551},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728760
Why would I kill it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715613681},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728864
I dont believe stats either, but common sense says that if wolves are actively killing people youd also have people who remain ALIVE that would report aggressive but ultimately non fatal encounters, or even an encounter where there was an attack but the person succesfully fended them off. Wolves go for the kill and are then thwarted regularly when hunting any other animal, why would it be the case that when they hunt humans they only do so with a 100% success rate?","attachment":null,"posted":1715613824},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728977
First story sounds like a murder cover up.
Second story they found remains, but I dont see any reason to think it had to be wolves, couldn't it have been the robbers?
Third and fourth seem possibly legit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715614039},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730176
pitbulls have mental instability, its not how you raise them, they can be a 'good dog' and snap","attachment":null,"posted":1715614185},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730176
>the retarded mouthbreather breed of dogs
>loved by the bottom-of-the-barrel working class
>bred specifically to be aggressive (bull-baiting, dogfighting)
You can raise any dog responsibly or irresponsibly, but just get yourself a normal breed at this point anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715615217},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
Lmao can’t handle non (((domesticated))) canids.
>be me doing /out/ shit 2015
>walk around corner of abandoned structure
>see moon dog
>at least 1.5x bigger than biggest GSD
>make eye contact and he is definitely appraising the situation
>we both turn around and go our separate ways
Anti wolf people literally believe big bad wolf stories from the 1400’s. Do you take silver with you also, and rune carved old wood talisman?","attachment":null,"posted":1715615525},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731607
so it doesn't kill your kid, pet, or live stock.","attachment":null,"posted":1715616264},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728822
I'm in upstate NY and the story is there's no mountain lions but I don't believe that for a second. We have the adirondacks and the whole park system. I would believe there are no wolves, but don't believe for one second there are no mountain lions.","attachment":null,"posted":1715616751},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731651,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730357
You should get one more mm. 10mm is perfect for woods carry. 9 is better than nothing but it wouldn't be ideal for something like a bear or a moose in that extremely unfortunate scenario.","attachment":null,"posted":1715617583},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731636
https://dec.ny.gov/nature/animals-fish-plants/eastern-cougar/sightings","attachment":null,"posted":1715617761},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731669,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731636
> no wolves
yet","attachment":null,"posted":1715618798},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2731891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728895
their silence is deafening","attachment":null,"posted":1715654221},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
as someone once said before me
>ignore the problem
>it goes away","attachment":null,"posted":1715703197},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732072,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Not so long ago there was a mountain lion that lived in Beverley Hills/Hollywood Hills and ig never attacked any humans, so if they can live there you're basically always in range of some dangerous animal. Just learn their behaviors and know how to protect yourself. Unless you get something coming out of hibernation or with offspring they'll choose easier food than you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715713639},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732082,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
unless you're sleeping by a cave wildcats are rare as fuck","attachment":null,"posted":1715716071},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
A lot of the time they're gonna be nocturnal and stay out of the way of people.
No real reason to go after you unless it's a juvenile or you're encroaching on it's territory. Animals are smarter than we give them credit for.
they know what humans are capable of even if they go their whole lives not encountering one. Go point at gun at an animal, it's gonna get scared shitless or riled up
it knows what it is.
You got mountain lions in the hill country regions of texas
you dont hear about them often because they usually dont come out during the day. Shit the trail cam photo we have is from the 90s. Either way recent or not the photo of it was taken at night","attachment":null,"posted":1715716534},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732092,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
Not fucked if you got a gun.
Those kitties, they will fuck you up and not care one bit about your attempts to walk away. You won't even know they are there unless they want you to know.","attachment":null,"posted":1715717122},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728874
There are no laws against crossing state lines with a long gun, the only laws that matter are the specific regulations on where you end up when asked about it, and that is easy to research.
The biggest worry is states with super tight gun regulations right next to states with little-to-none. I grew up in New Hampshire which is probably the most lax gun law state in the union (or at least it did) while Connecticut is a two hour drive away and has the tightest gun laws, to the point you would have to be retarded and/or actively trying to create a big legal issue if you brought something from NH into CT for a weekend trip.","attachment":null,"posted":1715723347},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732189,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731099
NTA, if you're having to use your gun in self defense of an animal, it'd going to be within 30 yards.","attachment":null,"posted":1715743806},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732213,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732189
But what if you have to use it in self defense from people? Never bring s pistol to a rifle fight.","attachment":null,"posted":1715751239},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732305,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732213
rumors of rednecks who shoot 22's over the campsites of faggots from the city are highly overstated","attachment":null,"posted":1715786765},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732433,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732305
If you say so, but here in Oregon a lot of people go missing every year. I am think it might be people","attachment":null,"posted":1715810330},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
Been watching a lot of car camping videos. Been wanting to go car camping. But then all I'm gonna do is sit around and make food a couple times.
I can fish but I don't want to keep them. I don't have a dog.","attachment":null,"posted":1715812556},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728528
FPBP
Pay attention and carry a firearm. don't slather yourself in meat juices helps too. in well over 1000 outings i've run into a handful of bears and only ever seen a big cat twice. bears that snoop around camps either get relocated or killed pretty quick.","attachment":null,"posted":1715814304},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732454,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728572
>>2728677
600k "go missing" and 99.9% of them either turn up quickly or end up being oh little johnny was in the closet the whole time.
>>2728761
suicides, serial killers and people who want to drop off the grid all happen at about 1000x the frequency to joe the mountain ranger found remains and didn't tell anyone. real life isn't a TV drama.","attachment":null,"posted":1715814573},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732455,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732448
foid shit","attachment":null,"posted":1715814655},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2732497,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732454
>600k "go missing" and 99.9% of them either turn up quickly or end up being oh little johnny was in the closet the whole time.
majority end up being found. I remember do some wilderness survival training/EPREP merit badge for scouting and the guy speaking for the class was a S&R dude. States the majority of his calls are teengagers running away from home into the woods or mental cases on the lamb. Thanks to technology such as GPS, cell phones, and aerial surveillance the amount of people that end up missing has dramatically reduced over the years.
Also a number of people who end up going missing in parks are sometimes suicide cases where the missing guy doesn’t want to be found and to enjoy his final moments in the bliss of nature before hanging or shooting himself.","attachment":null,"posted":1715822075},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2733072,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
If you live in Europe you most likely have wild boars who are more dangerous than bears and lions, because while they will try to avoid fires and sounds, boars will actively try to fuck your shit up because they meet lots of humans","attachment":null,"posted":1715980965},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2733074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728575
I think I got bad blood or something because mosquitoes don't bite me and ticks don't even dare climbing on me, even when I go into tick territory and my friends get at leasta a couple on their legs. My grandfather was also like this, mosquitoes would sit on his arm and fly away a second later without even trying to bite.","attachment":null,"posted":1715981238},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2733113,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
wonder how often the Big Bad Wolf was your neighbour who strangled you and then dumped your body in the woods, so wolves would get blamed after they ate it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715991773},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2733115,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728510
Bears will generally leave you alone and mountain lions aren't a problem in most states.","attachment":null,"posted":1715992466},{"board":"out","thread":2728510,"pid":2733162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728530
idk I think its cool to have wolves in the ecosystem again the way god intended. All things considered, wolves are supposed to be frightened of humans and will be ultimately inconsequential to most. Stay strapped, clap back if they start getting too bold","attachment":null,"posted":1716003765}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What are some underrated, legal psychoactive plants that are relatively easy to grow in your garden?","attachment":null,"posted":1714927936},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728358,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728357
LSA from Morning Glory seeds","attachment":null,"posted":1714928043},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728365,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728357
>>2728358
psychosis speedrun thread. look for some peyote or san pedro cactus for strictly gardening purposes of course","attachment":null,"posted":1714928951},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728373,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"OP here, forgot to mention that I'm gonna try and grow some kanna this year.","attachment":null,"posted":1714930127},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728365
>peyote
Illegal to possess and illegal to grow, unless you're a native, live on the rez, and have a permit to grow it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714930400},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728384,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728378
Who’s going to go into your garden and make sure you’re not growing peyote? Quit being a pussy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714930661},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728391,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Mugwort (picrel) is known for its dream-enhancing effects. It magnifies the brilliance of color and overall duration of your dreams. Known as “Molush” by the Indians of California the name translates literally to “Dream Plant”. It grows almost anywhere so you can find it growing wild in most places, so it's free.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714931001305509.jpg","filename":"artemisia-plant.jpg"},"posted":1714931001},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728393,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728391
Forgot to mention: you can brew it as a tea or smoke the leaves. Some people say sleeping with it under your pillow also works.","attachment":null,"posted":1714931251},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728404,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728357
San Pedro, mushroom spores are legal and you can grow them in a closet or under the bed though possession is illegal","attachment":null,"posted":1714933227},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728405,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728391
valerian also does this","attachment":null,"posted":1714933304},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728391
>>2728393
It doesn't.
t. have drank a lot of mugwort tea because hippie ex-gf liked it","attachment":null,"posted":1714933815},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728412,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728384
And you're going to acquire it how?","attachment":null,"posted":1714934187},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">File deleted
Why, it was a comfy pic of a Hindu Pepe and a cow.","attachment":null,"posted":1714934202},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728391
>>2728409
You'll want Calea zachatechichi (aztec dream herb) for that.","attachment":null,"posted":1714934206},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728384
This! No one is going to report you unless you're growing something like weed that has an obvious shape and pungent odor. Peyote is a small cactus and takes years to grow. San pedro has the same active(Mescaline) and I see it growing wild and in people's yards. No one cares.","attachment":null,"posted":1714934373},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Grow something that amazes normies like toothache herb or miracle fruit. You can also get psychoactive mushrooms to establish in wood chip mulches.","attachment":null,"posted":1714934830},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728432,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728412
Go to Texas and pick it out the ground and transplant it or buy seeds online somewhere.","attachment":null,"posted":1714936021},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728442,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728413
>posting antisemitic hate symbols on a blue board","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714937070670601.jpg","filename":"a_hardy_shiggy.jpg"},"posted":1714937070},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728378
Have you tried not being an american?","attachment":null,"posted":1714940955},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728442
It's just a hindu symbol for the sun and well being bro. You shouldn't let people take symbols or words away from you","attachment":null,"posted":1714941822},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728413
>>2728442
It's because the jannies here are frogphobic","attachment":null,"posted":1714943660},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728475,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Terence McKenna was the hippie who popularized mushrooms in the west. He may have been the guy who discovered ayahuasca and introduced it to the west.
We wrote a book on how to grow mushrooms, which are legal in some places in the US: Psilocybin: Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide. And I know for a fact he’s mentioned plants in the US that ayahuasca could be derived from (these are sometimes called “pharmahuasca”).
There are also frogs. The Colorado River toad is legal to own as a pet, but produces a poison that’s a controlled substance. Supposedly the natives would spread the poison on a rock, allow it to dry, then scrape it off and smoke it. I think modern druggies use a piece of glass rather than a rock, and I think it’s incredibly dangerous (and definitely illegal). But again, the frogs are totally legal and pretty hardy, so they’re easy to keep as an exotic pet.
>>2728460
Lol.
OP did ask for legal substances, though. Peyote is not only illegal, but it has some kind of federal protection due to its vulnerable status (I don’t think it’s endangered; maybe threatened?).","attachment":null,"posted":1714943787},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728481,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728475
Syrian rue is very easy to grow(it's a weed) and it has harmalas in it(the MAOI found in caapi aka ayahuaska vine) You can find them easily online as well and are 100% legal. For your DMT containing plant you'll want Mimosa hostillis or Acacia confusa or one of the other DMT containing plants. You can buy MH root bark online legally and easily. Acacia confusa has DMT in the leaves, bark(root and branch) and body proper. MH only has it in large enough concentrations to extract in the root bark.
Syrian rue, B. caapi, MH and Acacia confusa are all 100% legal to own and grow. Pick one MAIO and one DMT bearing and you have what you need to make ayahuaska.","attachment":null,"posted":1714944514},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728357
I see Datura stramoniumall over the place here. Wild and cultivated. Not saying I recommend or even suggest trying it. But it is a very pretty plant and it is highly psychoactive.","attachment":null,"posted":1714947561},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728357
Opium poppies(papaver somniferum) are legal to grow and you can buy the seeds at any garden store. Just avoid Norman/Tasmanian poppies. They've been breed to only contain the alkaloids that require chemical extraction for pharmaceutical drugs like oxycodone","attachment":null,"posted":1714947990},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728504,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just FYI, any plant based substances will take you a year or more to grow enough to have a usable amount. While technically not legal and this not what you necessarily asked for, you can have mushrooms(spores to fruiting mushrooms) in under 2 months. If you're looking to have something soonish, fungus is your friend.","attachment":null,"posted":1714948289},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728505,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728504
And you can buy everything you need to grow them, legally *I meant to add","attachment":null,"posted":1714948351},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728766,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728504
Even Mormon Tea?","attachment":null,"posted":1715001551},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2728903,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728766
In general, it takes 3-6 months from seed to small plant and a year to get a good size plant that you're not going to kill when harvesting from it. It's not necessarily true 100% of the time, there are exceptions to every rule. I've never grown any ephedra plants, so I couldn't say for sure. But they are also illegal in the US. Not that I'd be concerned with getting busted growing it, it's not an obvious plant. But I don't know how easy/hard it would be to get seeds. Be careful with ephedra, it's one of the bases used for meth.","attachment":null,"posted":1715023551},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2730525,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728474
Based?","attachment":null,"posted":1715361915},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2730837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728903
Mormon Tea is legel AFAIK, since it contains zero ephedrine.","attachment":null,"posted":1715431626},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2731050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730837
Ah, ok, I didn't know that. I'm somewhat familiar with ma huang(ephedra sinica) from reading. I assumed Mormon Tea(epedra nevadensis) was just the US version of the Chinese plant(ma huang)
Is it still a stimulant,even without the epedrine? I see that it is not banned, unlike ma huang, because it doesn't contain ephedrine or pseudoephedrine. What is the active compound? I'll read up on it more...","attachment":null,"posted":1715479353},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2731052,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731050
Hmm.... So there are several different plants that are all called Mormon Tea: Ephedra trifurca, Ephedra viridis, Ephedra torreyana, Ephedra nevadensis, and Ephedra californica. They do contain ephedrine, as well as pseudoephedrine, norephedrine, and methylephedrine. But they're not bannd like ma huang. Some of the listed plants are lower in the compounds and some are higher. I'm not sure how they made it past the 2004 ban. Mormon Tea suplements were banned in 2004, but not the plant itself, unlike ma huang. Good to know. Ephedrine is a great bronchodilator.","attachment":null,"posted":1715480151},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2731057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731052
one last.....Quora says they do contain the alkeloids, wokapedia says they do and don't with two different sources. And there are other sites that say both as well. So, take your pick? Aside from ceffeine, there aren't any other stimulants associated with the ephedra plants. They have a high tannin content. But that's not going to help you. I'm not sure what the "medicinal" properties would be without any ephedrine compounds. Unless it's just the caffeine..","attachment":null,"posted":1715481398},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2733219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728503
I found the seeds are not generally available in the US, but I got some online. The only poppy varieties I've seen in stores are California, Iceland, common/corn poppy, and oriental poppy. Iceland poppy is really nice too, but I don't think it has any opium, just pretty flowers.","attachment":null,"posted":1716024021},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2733221,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You can legally order psilocybin mushroom spores in the US","attachment":null,"posted":1716027653},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2733235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728501
I only bought and ate datura inoxia seeds online. I woke the next day with no memory of what happened and I was alone so I'll never know what it was like. Only for true space cadets","attachment":null,"posted":1716036022},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2733236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733235
Bruh","attachment":null,"posted":1716036307},{"board":"out","thread":2728357,"pid":2733774,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733219
I've found them at walmart. They're labled "bread seed" poppies.","attachment":null,"posted":1716155634}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728274,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">watch youtube noo
>whips out cheap chinese non full tang machete
>begins to baton green wet wood off a living tree
>chops down whole forest
>makes massive bonfire
No nigger! All you need is twigs! Gather a faggot and you're good to go.
If I see you with a bonfire I immediately skip your video.
The military solved the outdoor mess kit long ago. get one of these bad boyss in pic related with a canteen, cup/pot, range, and pouch. stick a spork in there and a ferro rod and steel keychain and its FUCKING PERFECT. the only problem with these is nobody buys them so theyre cheap
the military SOLVED this shit nigger wisen the fuck up. christ!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714916018890130.png","filename":"Untitled46_20240505062740.png"},"posted":1714916018},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728274
>image shows them boiling the entire canteen with the cap on it, instead of just water in the cup
Lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1714916655},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728280,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728277
i couldnt find a better pic","attachment":null,"posted":1714916993},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728283,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728274
Cant i just put the cup directly on the fire? Whats the little stand for?","attachment":null,"posted":1714917349},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728332,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728274
Wish they made steel caps. There's only one model I could find and it's laughably pricy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714923739},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728283
>Anon discovers stoves.","attachment":null,"posted":1714930406},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728410,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728277
Kek","attachment":null,"posted":1714933975},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728274
for some reason there are a lot of these( the canteens) made in plastic. seen them in surplus stores too. quite annoying","attachment":null,"posted":1714951680},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728663,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728531
As long as the melting point of the plastic is above the boiling point of water you can boil water in it.
It won't heat up beyond the boiling temperature of water as long as there's still water in it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714975190},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'll have a big fire if I want a big fire faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1714977238},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728531
That's because often those canteens are made to expand with the said contents if frozen. And the cup is there to boil water with anyways.","attachment":null,"posted":1714992205},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728274
They all seem to be aluminium. Why no steel construction? I don't want alzheimers.","attachment":null,"posted":1714993595},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2728881,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728731
>I don't want alzheimers.
how is this myth still perpetuated","attachment":null,"posted":1715019542},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2729207,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728531
>for some reason there are a lot of these( the canteens) made in plastic.
>actual vietnam era ones were plastic
find them surplus thru the 80s
most plastic ones now recent production
http://www.vietnamgear.com/kit.aspx?kit=18","attachment":null,"posted":1715088910},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2729208,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728731
>Why no steel construction?
>still needs a stand
https://alfa1official.com/product/stainless-steel-water-canteen/","attachment":null,"posted":1715088993},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2730471,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728881
There was a good reason, but I forgot what it was.","attachment":null,"posted":1715351462},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2730472,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730471
Heh","attachment":null,"posted":1715352080},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2730474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728881
>>2730471
1.Boomer
2. All research that strayed outside of the mainstream amyloid hypothesis (which connects aluminum to Alzheimer’s) was shunned by the scientific community for well over a decade while the original research into that theory was based on falsified data. Look it up. We’re probably 15 or 20 years behind where we should be (which is insane when you consider how far medical research has progressed). Inb4 Covid. I’m talking about real shit, not politicized nonsense.","attachment":null,"posted":1715352428},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2730476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730471
>There was a good reason, but I forgot what it was.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715353158680598.png","filename":"kek.png"},"posted":1715353158},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2730497,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728663
Plastic is inherently gay and turns you gay/trans as it fucks up your endocrine system","attachment":null,"posted":1715357993},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2731086,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728274
Preach. Home made woodgas anons rise up","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715494366596808.jpg","filename":"IMG_20151002_181311_525.jpg"},"posted":1715494366},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2731087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731086","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715494520497619.jpg","filename":"2013-10-10_15-04-00_135.jpg"},"posted":1715494520},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2731089,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731086","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715494910368517.jpg","filename":"IMG_20151002_211916_597.jpg"},"posted":1715494910},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2731191,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">solves fire making","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715531232012255.jpg","filename":"61tOhE4-wJL.jpg"},"posted":1715531232},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2731329,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731191
Add one of these to your fire kit and thank me later. It tuns sticks into perfect tinder in seconds. Shave a couple of large pencile sized sticks of fatwood down and fire is the easiest thing in the world for cheap.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715557434609045.jpg","filename":"carpenters pencile sharpener.jpg"},"posted":1715557434},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2731522,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730474
>drink the (((aluminum)))
no.","attachment":null,"posted":1715593616},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2731550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731522
no amount of abstaining from aluminium will save you from the retardation you already have","attachment":null,"posted":1715603527},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2731635,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731329
Holy shit I can’t believe I never thought of this","attachment":null,"posted":1715616745},{"board":"out","thread":2728274,"pid":2731809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731550
>REEEE consume the metal slave!!!111
no.
kek.","attachment":null,"posted":1715637064}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How do you handle feelings of loneliness and vulnerability when alone and /out/?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714978384926985.jpg","filename":"7d828a99636dfc7ecc578ae3b805b8ea-870090726.jpg"},"posted":1714978384},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728678
when i'm /out/, i don't feel those things
skill issue","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714978830166172.jpg","filename":"11116313.jpg"},"posted":1714978830},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't have those when I'm /out/, I have them when I'm at home.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714988962098576.gif","filename":"1553745181313.gif"},"posted":1714988962},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728742,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728678
i got that feeling one time after hiking 25 miles in grizzly country and it was dark out, how i solved it was setting up my tent and passing out, woke up feeling probably the best i have ever felt in my life.","attachment":null,"posted":1714997610},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728758,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728714
same. i hate home","attachment":null,"posted":1715000093},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728714
Are you me?","attachment":null,"posted":1715002706},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728812,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I go /out/ to get away from people.","attachment":null,"posted":1715008813},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728872,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728678
I don't feel vulnerable and solitude is the whole point.","attachment":null,"posted":1715018053},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728875,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728678
>Lolniness
Christ lives within
>vulnerability
Bring weapon","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715018695782569.png","filename":"1674454017920491.png"},"posted":1715018695},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728934,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728678
I feel the opposite. Also, Lord Jesus Christ is with me, always.","attachment":null,"posted":1715027290},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728959,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728934
Jesus Christ won't save you from a bear, hypothermia, getting lost, etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1715030714},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"gun","attachment":null,"posted":1715032255},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2728965,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728964
also being afraid and alone is part of the fun","attachment":null,"posted":1715032316},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2729002,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728959
How poignant thank you for that. Now I'm an atheist.","attachment":null,"posted":1715040453},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2729482,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728678
>loneliness
That's why I go /out/
>Vulnerability
I just accept that I could die, like any time in life.","attachment":null,"posted":1715133903},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2729613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728678
>How do you handle feelings of loneliness and vulnerability when alone and /out/?
Bitch, the reason I /out/ is because I feel lonely and vulnerable in modern society.","attachment":null,"posted":1715171074},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2731601,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728678
Unironically skill issue. I always feel sufficiently capable of dealing with whatever problems arise, and consider relying on my own skills and equipment to do so as part of the enjoyment. The one exception being when I hear something big moving nearby at night. In which case I grab a weapon and prepare for imminent death.
As for loneliness, I always feel alone. At least the trees don’t judge me for it","attachment":null,"posted":1715613206},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2731672,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"embrace it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715619417},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2731685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728678
filtered","attachment":null,"posted":1715620617},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2731690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728875
And a backup weapon. One heater and one good sized blade.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715620973345785.jpg","filename":"1714646535803030.jpg"},"posted":1715620973},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2732585,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728678
>feelings of loneliness
I hate people so being alone is nice
>and vulnerability
carry gun","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715848108910420.jpg","filename":"IMG_3262.jpg"},"posted":1715848108},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2732586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715848460792959.gif","filename":"roojerk.gif"},"posted":1715848460},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2732588,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">How do you handle feelings of loneliness and vulnerability when alone and /out/?
That's the best part about being alone and out.","attachment":null,"posted":1715848888},{"board":"out","thread":2728678,"pid":2732679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I usually just get very horny when /out/ and imagine meeting nature spirits for sex, it's almost unavoidable at this point, at some point on a hike alone I WILL get an erection.
Vulnerable? Vulnerable to sex from nubile forest spirits / creatures.","attachment":null,"posted":1715875247}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2728862,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What are some of your biggest accomplishments and happiest moments in life?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715016040462016.png","filename":"top.png"},"posted":1715016040},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2728880,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728862
/out/ related? Made it on a wildland fire crew for a little while. I know it's not hard to get signed on since they take anyone that's not outright mentally retarded or paraplegic and can pass a WCT, but I pulled myself out of 10+ years of drug and alcohol addiction to get there. Moving across the country on my own was no small feat, either. I eventually got filtered out for a different medical condition I developed mid-season and can't do it anymore. I miss it every day, even if it paid like utter horseshit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715019293},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2728973,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728880
WCT?","attachment":null,"posted":1715033749},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2728986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728862
>/out/ related
Made and lived soley out of an altoids tin survival kit for an entire week in the Appalachian boonies. Snared a couple squirrels, a raccoon, and fished for my food. I'd grown up in the sticks, but I definitely wasn't a survivalist and it was insanely challenging.
A close tie was managing a 2 day caving trip through Friars Hole in WV with pretty much no caving experience. I got wrapped up in an expedition with a professional survey group that was going super deep while I was at a VAR event and sort of negated to tell them I was inexperienced. I managed to keep up with the front of their group and they were impressed with me. Was underground for 25 hours, and they just about shit themselves at the end of the trip when I told them that was like my second time underground, kek.
>non /out/ related
Own and operate my own little machine shop @ 26y/o and own my house. Happiest day in my life was paying off my land. Thanks for reading my blog.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715036124695405.png","filename":"1696881279366874.png"},"posted":1715036124},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2728987,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728973
Work capacity test
Bottom line basic bitch physical fitness test all wildland fire guys have to do annually. 3 mile trek in 45min or less with 45lbs of gear
Some more specialized crews have their own set of standards they require personnel to meet, just depends on where you are and who you sign on with","attachment":null,"posted":1715036423},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2728993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728986
How'd you get started running your own shop? I always played around with the idea of starting my own small business hoping it would give me some more flexibility to do /out/ stuff, being my own boss and all.","attachment":null,"posted":1715038313},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2728997,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728862
Climbing all 282 of these mountains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munro","attachment":null,"posted":1715039264},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728993
I worked for another shop for a while and learned under an old master machinist. Took every opportunity I could to talk with customers and get my name out there. When another local machine shop closed down due to the dude dying, I spent every last penny I had buying up his tools and rented shop space. Had enough preliminary customers from connections at the first shop to keep me afloat until I started making a name for myself and could bring new people in.
My situation was definitely a right place at the right time kind of thing, but I've been busting my ass to make it happen. Owning the place is so much more work and a hell of a lot more stressful than just working for someone else, but the satisfaction of being your own boss is like nothing else. When work slows down in the winter, I spend nearly all of my time /out/, it's awesome.","attachment":null,"posted":1715040908},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729012,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728987
>3 mile trek in 45min or less with 45lbs of gear
I fail lol
at least there's no drug test","attachment":null,"posted":1715042172},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729143,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Shooting a nice 14blpt stag that took a lot of hunts to get to him. But really I've done nothing impressive /out/, my best achievement is just getting it done again and again and never getting bored, I'm always trying to get deer in new places and I succeed at that every now and then.","attachment":null,"posted":1715072117},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729275,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729012
Its really not as hard as it sounds, you could prepare for it in a few months at most
And there is a drug test","attachment":null,"posted":1715100398},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729363,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729007
Glad to hear you found your niche, that sounds like a good life to lead. Was thinking about picking up a trade or something trade-adjacent after I left wildland fire like I mentioned here >>2728880
and it's always nice to hear success stories.","attachment":null,"posted":1715115034},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729372,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729275
>And there is a drug test
but WHY
god shit is retarded
fuck them i hope the forest burns down","attachment":null,"posted":1715116210},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728997
how long did that take?","attachment":null,"posted":1715118869},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729143
So your biggest achievement is killing stuff? Anyone can do that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715124438},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729372
I dont want a crackhead on the line putting me and everyone else at risk","attachment":null,"posted":1715124750},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728862
>saved up for my own rifle
>learned to shoot on my own
>learned to stalk on my own
>killed my first buck and turkey this year
Trying for grouse next season","attachment":null,"posted":1715128011},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729473,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728862
Two white sons who love going /out/.","attachment":null,"posted":1715132992},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728986
I kneel.","attachment":null,"posted":1715133067},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729475,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729363
Thanks mate, I appreciate it. If you're going into the trades, just do your research; I know some trades are beginning to get oversaturated now. Also congrats on kicking the drugs, mate. I'd always wanted to do the ranger thing, but couldn't cope with the pay. Wildland fire sounds fun as fuck.","attachment":null,"posted":1715133154},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2729476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729421
Most people on 4chan wouldn't even know how to load a gun. Even on /k/.","attachment":null,"posted":1715133195},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2730076,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729394
about 7 years? from #1 to the end
I was working/studying so mostly doing it on weekends and spending all my annual leave from work on hiking trips to do them but I did ape into it pretty hard.
Covid lockdowns kept me away from them for a while. As did a job which kept me very isolated for a year put a hold on my progress","attachment":null,"posted":1715255738},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2730085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728862
/out/ related, when I shot my first squirrel with a longbow. It's not so much the shooting the squirrel part, but all the work, money and practice that goes into getting to a point where you can do something like that. Worth it though.
Some of my happiest moments in (adult) life have been on my /out/ trips with my girlfriend. Specifically when we went to Algonquin park for a few nights, when she caught a musky on the French River after 6 hours of paddling against 40-50km/h winds, and our time exploring crown land around our family cottage. We've found some lakes that hardly anyone knows about where we can catch smallmouths on almost every catch. We've made some damn good campfire meals out of those.
>>2729443
This is the next step for me. Hunting grouse with a longbow just doesn't work in my region. They're too spooky and fly off before you're in range.","attachment":null,"posted":1715258653},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2730092,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729421
>I have never been hunting before
Nice to know.","attachment":null,"posted":1715259326},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2730185,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728986
Fucking based.","attachment":null,"posted":1715277376},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2731380,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728862
(Assuming /out/)
College summer jobs working as wilderness guide for groups of teens. Great community/friendships with coworkers, summer romances with coworkers, got to be silly and fun with the kids and play the games we stop playing as adults. Getting paid (meagerly) to whitewater raft, paddle, cave, hike, etc.
Maximum effort sport climbing and scary trad climbing.
Beautiful moments with wildlife encounters and stunning landscapes while backpacking.","attachment":null,"posted":1715564406},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2731421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729421
Yeah I'm a simple man, what's my life got anything to do with your day?","attachment":null,"posted":1715569483},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2731912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I proposed to my gf at the end of a cool hike we did in Glacier National Park. She dumped me almost 1 year later though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715659159},{"board":"out","thread":2728862,"pid":2734133,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728987
Bump","attachment":null,"posted":1716225925}]}
{"title":"Striped Jackrabbit pelt? Normal?","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2728631,"pid":2728631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm a beginner tanner, I've been practicing by tanning a few hides, never seen this before though. I noticed the skin is striped? This was a wild black tailed jackrabbit caught in the West Coast USA. Is this normal?? I researched it to death, and I can't find anything about what can cause striped skin in a jackrabbit. It was a healthy looking rabbit, very responsive, no lethargy or anything like that, just wondering if this is normal or some sort of disease?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714967263638961.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240505_193708.jpg"},"posted":1714967263},{"board":"out","thread":2728631,"pid":2729789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728631
This is pretty normal anon AFAIK. Rabbits have really really really thin skin, almost as thin as a bird's, and that means you can see the coloration of the skin through the interior. If you ever had a multi-colored dog with spots and parted its fur in different locations, you'd see that some spots are pink while others are black. That's what you're seeing here. Sometimes that matches with the coloration/pattern of the fur, sometimes it doesn't. Don't worry about it; completely normal.","attachment":null,"posted":1715195274},{"board":"out","thread":2728631,"pid":2729863,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm afraid that this is a classic case of rabbit AIDS. Please go get tested anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715206838},{"board":"out","thread":2728631,"pid":2732193,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728631
was the rabbit female? if so, look into X chromosome inactivation. females have two X chromosomes but one is deactivated randomly upon embryonic elongation. this is why calico cats have a mix of mom and dads fur color. human women have this too but is only visible under UV spectrum cameras","attachment":null,"posted":1715746724},{"board":"out","thread":2728631,"pid":2733184,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728631
This is pretty normal. I think it occurs when the coat begins to transition from winter to summer. I've seen it in cottontails and jackrabbits. Other furbearers will sometimes display this as their coats are changing, too. I don't think I've ever seen it on any pelt between October and the beginning of January, possibly the beginning of February.","attachment":null,"posted":1716007689}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2728919,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Enjoying the breeze?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715025826674030.png","filename":"Flag_of_Colorado.svg.png"},"posted":1715025826},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2729034,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"its making fire dangers","attachment":null,"posted":1715047023},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2729228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"MAKE IT STOP OH GOD OF THE PLAINS
I JUST WANT TO GO FOR A PEACEFUL WALK FUCK","attachment":null,"posted":1715092381},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2729250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729034
Every day I pray Denver burns to the ground.","attachment":null,"posted":1715096625},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2729261,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729250
God does not answer prayers like this.
You must be praying to something else","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715098338166162.jpg","filename":"vTlcg5fr_400x400.jpg"},"posted":1715098338},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2729294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729261
Ok rabbi.","attachment":null,"posted":1715103346},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2730555,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729294
I bet you listen to that santanic music too","attachment":null,"posted":1715367746},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2730591,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728919
better than at cursed scorching Sun
today it nice THOUGH","attachment":null,"posted":1715373056},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2730734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone seeing this solar storm? Thinking of driving North but it might be too late.","attachment":null,"posted":1715394997},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2731477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729034
>its making fire dangers
its been raining for like 36 hours you transplant troon","attachment":null,"posted":1715578405},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2731543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731477
look at the date dumbass
also what do you think that borealis effect is goint to do? probably dry it all up again","attachment":null,"posted":1715601662},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2731764,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">no I don't have a dollar
>no I don't have any quarters
>no I don't have a cigarette
They are these fucks gathering somewhere that has such harsh winters? Hell it routinely gets below freezing at night in the Summer","attachment":null,"posted":1715631259},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2731858,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731764
what?
the most homelesses are on the west coast","attachment":null,"posted":1715649562},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2731861,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731858
just because you're used to it doesn't mean it's normal Califag","attachment":null,"posted":1715649661},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2732805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731861
its normal now","attachment":null,"posted":1715901455},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2733040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729261
O Daughter of Babylon, you destroyer,
happy will he be who repays you
for the suffering you inflicted upon us!
Happy will he be who seizes your babies
and smashes them against a rock!","attachment":null,"posted":1715973216},{"board":"out","thread":2728919,"pid":2733238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730555
>>2733040
confirmed","attachment":null,"posted":1716037603}]}
{"title":"Getting over creeps while solo wild camping?","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Fore the record I've technically been solo camping a bunch but I've always been within eye sight of other campers. I've been wild camping with friends/my ex but never alone.
I'm not usually afraid of the outdoors and when I do feel nervous about something once I start doing it I'm fine. I love to go through night drives and explore hoods, which I know is way more dangerous.
My main fear is for some reason I'll go a bit crazy and flee from my campsite and get disoriented. There's some mountain lions periodically out here but they're super super rare. I slept in grizzly country before but, again, not alone.
Anybody else feel a bit nervous then realize it wasn't that bad once you got out there?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715060649507191.jpg","filename":"camping-alone-tent-night_h.jpg"},"posted":1715060649},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729110,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ive never spent the night at any of the places i go, but then again solo camping in the Everglades is not a good idea. Im not so much creeped out but rather afraid of getting heat stroke 10-15 miles in the jungle and no one knowing where i am. Longest I have been in the Everglades alone was an 18 mile walk from 7am to 9pm.","attachment":null,"posted":1715061951},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729119,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
I'd only worry about getting lost,because that would be the only way that I would encounter problems. Get a comfy camp site going in a sheltered place like under a low-growing tree, and enjoy the solitude and peacefulness. You can always listen to podcasts etc. if you feel isolated.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715065759609529.png","filename":"spot1.png"},"posted":1715065759},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729120,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
Yes, same here. As I get older it gets worse.
>inb4 alcohol
That only makes it harder to get a good night's sleep.","attachment":null,"posted":1715065952},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This is a pretty shitty thread.
Why are you typing like this, OP?
The only way to get over it is to stop being a pussy.
Become that which is feared instead of being the one who is fearful.","attachment":null,"posted":1715069317},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729131,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Don't care about dying. I accept the possibility I can buy it out there.","attachment":null,"posted":1715070149},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729446,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
When I'm /out/ I only worry about /x/ stuff.","attachment":null,"posted":1715128516},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729131
This is how I do it. If it's my time, it's my time.","attachment":null,"posted":1715133681},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729127
>Paragraphs are for pussies, Holmes","attachment":null,"posted":1715135819},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729511,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
Can't relate. Maybe you're just a pussy, bro.
[spoiler] The real reason I can't relate is that I've never been solo wild camping, I've only ever been camping with friends or a partner. I'm pretty certain I wouldn't get the creeps but who knows. [/spoiler]","attachment":null,"posted":1715136724},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729520,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729446
Same. I can car camp in the most violent crackhead new black panther party infested shithole ghetto just fine solo but the sticks freak me out. Wierd because I grew up in a small town.","attachment":null,"posted":1715139382},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2729568,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
Is there a small Island, or piece of higher land in the middle of a swamp near you Anon?
Maybe it'll calm your nerves if what's "out there" is seperated from your site by a shitton of water.","attachment":null,"posted":1715156338},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2730267,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Be me, AZN camper … by myself. I hope no white people bullies me like at work. Cry myself to sleep after a bowl of MAMA and some shrimp. Pray for world peace and for my parents. Maybe a GF, Lord willing.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715294552641127.jpg","filename":"dscn1489 2.jpg"},"posted":1715294552},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2730298,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729501
>Reddit spacing is now paragraphs because retards have no clue
Die in a fire newfag.","attachment":null,"posted":1715299386},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2730301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
I used to have the same issue as you anon. I would happily go deep in the woods with friends, spend days in the bush however was afraid when alone. I found what helped me get over the fear was remember. It’s all in your head, everything has an explanation, most animals are afraid of you and wish to avoid you.
Also carry a gun.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715299779917459.png","filename":"Crown land .png"},"posted":1715299779},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2730324,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
I've gone solo backpacking several times. It can get a little spooky but thats part of the charm. I find walking out past the light of your camp fire and looking back at your camp somehow helps. Its the way the campifire lights up a certain amount but leaves everything else darker so you cant see past the circle of light- that freaks me out","attachment":null,"posted":1715303861},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2730328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730324
The really great part is when you go out into the woods and turn back to your camp only to see yourself sitting by the fire staring fearfully out into the night and you don't know if what you're seeing is actually you or something pretending to be you and then you think that maybe you were pretending to be you all along and will never make it back to the fire, shit's crazy lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715304110},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2730777,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729520
Been scared of ayylmaos since I was a kid. Before that I was scared of tornadoes and skeletons, but ayylmaos was the fear that stuck.","attachment":null,"posted":1715407871},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2730792,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
nah. i'm on the east coast we just have rednecks (will only harass minorities) and black bears (harmless)","attachment":null,"posted":1715413249},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2730874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730298
Nta, but that's not reddit spacing you stupid faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715441476},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2730876,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just need to have that stone cold knowledge that you are the most dangerous motherfucker around.
I only feel apprehension around men of similar power because they could potentially be as dangerous as me, but its not likely.","attachment":null,"posted":1715442131},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2731044,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
I have two ideas.
You could try weening yourself off from camping around others, you already camped within eyesight of other campers so mayber try camping in eyesight of a ranger station/firewatch tower, then in eyesight of unmanned landmarks like cell towers/powerlines/boat launches, then finally out of site of all these. Try getting farther and farther eachtime, having manmade landmarks will make you psychologically feel close to people even if there aren't any on/in them. Also carry a gun if you can.
the second idea is be the thing your afraid of, wear camo and watch other campers from afar, instead of walking through the woods sneak through them being careful with how much noise you make and staying hidden with bushes, as you hike pick up sticks and fibers to make strange little talismans and hang them from trees, at night get out of your tent and make alot of noise like howling and laughing into the dark woods to scare other campers, Also carry a gun again.","attachment":null,"posted":1715477557},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2731097,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730777
That Anon here, yeah me too. Used to have gnarly nightmares of that shit constantly that would get me screaming until I woke up until I moved to the big city. I miss the peace of nature though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715497655},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2731900,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
>Is anyone else scared of the dark ?
No","attachment":null,"posted":1715655730},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732583,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730324
If you really get freaked out about that, try stealth camping.
Keep the fire going only when it's light out. At night, try to keep everything pitch black.
If you need it, use red light to preserve your night vision and reduce visibility.
It's even better if you get all your gear in camo patterns.","attachment":null,"posted":1715847980},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730324
That's actually the best thing to do if you get the spooks is just get up and go look at whatever is spooking you. Because it'll look just like what it did during the day, but almost calmer somehow. It'll be nice and you might want to walk around some more.","attachment":null,"posted":1715853633},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
>creeps
>not bleeps
>not sweeps
https://youtu.be/B9K4N328OI8?si=4w4WGPrASF1u81Ou","attachment":null,"posted":1715856162},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732667,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732607
>how many assholes do we have on this camp anyways","attachment":null,"posted":1715872537},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731044
lol. second idea reminds me of that fucking ghillie suit greentext
>>2729100
>when I do feel nervous about something once I start doing it I'm fine
There's your answer OP. It's a little spooky the first few times and after that it's fine. Bring a weapon and sleep with it next to you if it helps.","attachment":null,"posted":1715884080},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732817,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732583
>if you get all your gear in camo patterns.
If you don't have all your gear in neon or other unnatural colors and nobody is actively searching for you, camo is overkill.
Just don't move, don't use lights after dark unless you absolutely need to, make sure that your tarp is at least below your waistline and you're going to be fine, especially if you're camping in the US where if you are in true wilderness you have basically zero chances of meeting anyone.","attachment":null,"posted":1715903603},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732830,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"it's statistically impossible that two serial killers run into each other in the woods.","attachment":null,"posted":1715908398},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732853,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732830
>statistically impossible for two serial killers to run into each other in the best place to hide a body.
Not to mention who tf asked","attachment":null,"posted":1715915116},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732868,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
I've been "solo" camping multiple times, but if I'm heading off without other people I always bring my dog with me. I've not been in grizzly country but I've spent a lot of time hiking and camping in mountain lion territory. If I'm going to be alone, having both my Malinois and a gun with me goes a long way to making me feel more secure.","attachment":null,"posted":1715918665},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729100
I'm too scared of people to sleep anywhere near them while camping, unless it's family/friends. Just be scared of others judging you and you'll prefer the unsafety of solitude.","attachment":null,"posted":1715925524},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2732902,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732853
> Implying that OP is a serial killer. XD","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715928809223747.jpg","filename":"1714914290700633.jpg"},"posted":1715928809},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2733409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732868
>Going into mountain lion country alone
>Bring dogs
That's quite literally statistically the worst thing you can do. Being alone is bad enough, alone with dogs is way worse. There's a reason a lot of places in mountain lion country don't allow you to bring dogs.","attachment":null,"posted":1716082641},{"board":"out","thread":2729100,"pid":2733525,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733409
Why is this? What happens, the mountain lion wants to hunt your dog?","attachment":null,"posted":1716110615}]}
{"title":"Good campfire meals that don't require refrigeration/cooler","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729557,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Heyo
I'm going camping and looking for some good recipes that pack nicely and require minimal cooler space. and also taste good. I will have access to a wood stove and a small gas burner
breakfast recipes:
>oatmeal with, water, salt, dehydrated berries/foraged berries, peanut butter and chocolate chips (unsweetened)
Lunch or supper recipes:
>canned mackarel/foraged fish with herbs, orzo (pasta), and spinach
>beans or pea soup and turkey sausage
snacks:
>fruits, nuts, and chips
and thats it. im kind of drawing blanks after that","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715152180133996.jpg","filename":"campingrecipes.jpg"},"posted":1715152180},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
keep a jar of bouillon cubes with you, always good for whatever (fun to suck on too)
if you want, i guess you could try making hummus, just mash up some cooked chickpeas & put any oil in it, boom, hummus
if you brought powdered eggs, i imagine you could make eggdrop soup
smoked / dried beef &/or venison is a classic for making a soup or stew
cornmeal goes a long way in a lot of dishes
dehydrated sweet potato makes a ridiculously good filler in soups & stews, same with pumpkin too
aside from peanut butter, sunflower butter does a really good job for a more sweeter touch
those little crystalized lemon / lime packets are amazing for flavoring water, plus, if you mixed one up in a just little bit of water, they act as a single wedge's worth, so they'd be perfect to add to any fish
chili powder is always there to make an instant chili, like the cowboys did","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715155572983299.png","filename":"543500.png"},"posted":1715155572},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
Breakfast: MOUNTAIN HOUSE BREAKFAST SKILLET
Lunch: MOUNTAIN HOUSE BREAKFAST SKILLET
Dinner: MOUNTAIN HOUSE BREAKFAST SKILLET
Dessert: CIGARETTE
Snacks: 2KG BULK PACK HARIBO GUMMY BEARS (UNSWEETENED)
Drink: PICREL","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715156178799414.jpg","filename":"RICHHPIANAEXTRACT.jpg"},"posted":1715156178},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729569,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
Dehydrate some spaghetti.","attachment":null,"posted":1715156657},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729587,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bully beef","attachment":null,"posted":1715163832},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729590,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"always add some avocado","attachment":null,"posted":1715164683},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729615,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Good:
Salami
Penut butter
Trail mix
Tea and Coffee. Chai late sachets.
Electrolyte sachets
Fibre bars
Fruit straps
Pancake mix (dry)
Hard cheese
Crackers
Bad:
Tins
Dry grains
Dry legumes
Bottles
Eggs
Fruit
Pemmican
I generally wouldn't recommend repackaging things because it's unreliable, most of the things in obnoxious packaging are perishable anyway. MRE packaging is for supply chain logistics, for the user mre just means a shit load of packaging.
Vacuum packing has merit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715172113},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729649,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
Instant soups, anything in a can or MOUNTAIN HOUSE BREAKFAST SKILLET.
But seriously if you're just going camping this isn't even a big concern. Just get something in a can and heat it. You're out camping dude, it'll taste good. I like crackers, nuts and dried fruit for snacks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715179258},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729653,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"the question heavily depends on the type of camping you'll be doing
are you camping from a car? then you can bring canned goods
if you're backpacking you need to be more strategic and are limited to carrying things that are lightweight and can be cooked with hot water, reheated in boiling water, or eaten cold","attachment":null,"posted":1715179943},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729653
Do people going backpacking call that camping? I've heard people who carry their stuff half a mile to a site pretend that's backpacking before. But backpackers don't call that camping that I'm aware of. Camping is drive-up camping. I dunno, maybe it's a regional difference.","attachment":null,"posted":1715180106},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729653
camping from a car, not backpack camping.
>>2729649
meh, i did that once, just brought a bunch of stuff like that and yolo'd and it really sucked eating that for 3 days. i want nice meals.","attachment":null,"posted":1715180183},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729657,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729561
i think ill bring some steaks for the first night. good tips thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1715180276},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729660,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729654
There's no set standard, for me it's easier to distinguish the difference between "car-camping" and "camping" by calling it "car-camping" and "backpacking" (which includes camping). If you ask me, so long as you have to carry your stuff at least over two miles through unpaved trail, that's bare-minimum backpacking. That alone will limit what you can bring in comparison to car-camping.","attachment":null,"posted":1715180752},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729663,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729660
I feel like there is a standard. If you've got a pack that goes on your back and that's how you take your stuff from place to place, that's backpacking. If you go to a place and set up a camp, that's camping. I dunno: everyone who doesn't live in the Western US is weird so maybe it's different.","attachment":null,"posted":1715181076},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729666,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729663
Well yes, you often set up camp while you are backpacking, thus you are "camping". The reason why we distinguish "camping" from "car-camping" is because the latter allows you many more amenities than the former. If you call "car-camping" just "camping" it's hard to tell if someone is hiking 15 miles to their campsite or driving up with their SUV.","attachment":null,"posted":1715181523},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729672,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729666
I'm willing to chalk it up to regional differences. But honestly I've been camping and backpacking for decades (in my early forties, my dad took us backpacking the first time when I was maybe 11). Never have I once heard a single person refer to backpacking as "camping." Never have I heard anyone refer to anything as camping other than "car-camping" or "walk a mile in" camping.","attachment":null,"posted":1715182228},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729674,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729666
Car camping is just a form of camping, it's not a whole new category. And there's no hyphen in "car camping".","attachment":null,"posted":1715182257},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729674
Right, the point is that there is a distinction between camping done with a car and camping done without one. If you ask me, so long as you are setting up a camp somewhere, you are camping, be it from a car or while you are backpacking.","attachment":null,"posted":1715182684},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729654
Camping in general is where you set up a limited, temporary dwelling somewhere and live there for a bit. Where that location is and how you get your stuff there where the differences are.","attachment":null,"posted":1715183577},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729686,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729681
Seriously no one calls backpacking "camping." That just isn't a thing. Is it some weird /out/ delineation you guys have invented and is only internally meaningful? You go cannoning or rafting. That can involve camping. You go backpacking and that can include camping. You go on a rock climbing trip or a hunting trip and that can include camping. But if you're "going camping," you're driving to a place and pitching some tents, or at most walking a mile in. That's what you mean when you say you're going "camping," because the camping is the activity itself.","attachment":null,"posted":1715183915},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729686
Bro the original post >>2729653 was asking if OP was backpacking (and presumably camping) at the spot he planned to camp, as opposed to camping from out of his car at drive-in ground.
What the hell do you call camping that doesn't fit your criteria of "driving to a place and pitching some tents, or at most walking a mile in"? Your own definition doesn't even fit the other examples you provided of going canoeing, rafting, hunting, etc.
Have you seriously never heard of car camping? Yes, some people mean car camping when they saying camping, but that's because it's a vague blanket statement that covers all types of camping, from primitive/wilderness/backcountry to glamping.","attachment":null,"posted":1715186380},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729735,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729686
Idk what you're talking. Backpacking in an /out/ context (across the entire community, not just on 4chan) is a form of camping where you take your shit with you in a backpack. That's all.
Maybe you're confusing it with thruhiking where you have a multiday hiking trip? Thruhikes almost inherently require backpacking, but there are times when you can stop in towns along the trail and get a motel and a hot meal, which isnt really camping. And similarly there are backpacking scenarios where you hoof it to a camping spot that you stay at for a week and then hoof it back.
Or maybe you're conflating it with travel backpacking, like where you carry a change of clothes and a passport while hopping trains across Europe.","attachment":null,"posted":1715188279},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729741,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729615
>Pemmican
why the fuck is Pemmican bad? selfmade Pemmikan and selfmade Beef Jerky are godlike for /out","attachment":null,"posted":1715189370},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729909,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
Picrel, and you can get a lot of single serve stuff in plastic or sealed foil packs that are a little heavy but on short trips is whatevs, like tamales, also pickled eggs, single serve packets of pickled jalapeños…no refrigeration necessary and they can add a little substance to what might otherwise be trail slop","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715214393986411.jpg","filename":"IMG_1261.jpg"},"posted":1715214393},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729989,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
For a while I was really into Indian food that comes in retort pouches. Sometimes I wouldn't even heat it up. You can also get plain shredded chicken in retort pouches. Just dump in some salt and spices and chow down.
A lot of people wouldn't backpack with heavy hydrated foods like this, but I go places where I have to carry all my water anyway.","attachment":null,"posted":1715229489},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729990,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729561
>try making hummus
the hippie grocery near me sells dry powdered hummus in bulk. it's really good.","attachment":null,"posted":1715229564},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2729999,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729741
the same reason hardtacks are bad: its a pain in the ass to eat and tastes like shit
there's a reason it stops becoming "popular" once food packaging started to get good","attachment":null,"posted":1715230388},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730009,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
country ham. any kind of canned meat really unless you are a sperg about cans","attachment":null,"posted":1715230826},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730168,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729735
OP here, sigh, this is a subject I know about. Camping as a concept in North America emerged WITH the automobile so there is in fact good reason to automatically assume camping means "car camping" automatically.
Anyway, I didn't mention in the OP but I am also looking to avoid processed goyslop in plastic bags. With the help of this thread I have thought up of 2 new recipes. I also don't know why one anon recommended against dry grains, they seem ideal
>salami, hard cheese, lentils, green on the side (probably also spinach
Guaranteed forest SEXO meal
>group meal: Carbonara: Use 4 onions, bag of spaghetti, pancetta (which is cured pork), some eggs if available but not strictly necessary, and parmesan or pecorino cheese, both hard and preserve well
>Boil spagett
in one pan
>carmelize onion
>soften up pancetta
On the side:
>beat eggs
>shred cheese
When pasta is ready
>strain, throw it into the pan that has the pancetta and onion
>combine with eggs, cheese, mix in IMMEDIATELY and the egg will cook and bind to the hot pasta
>mix it all up
>when served, add more cheese
>guaranteed SEXO with all females within vicinity","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715274683481386.jpg","filename":"camping.jpg"},"posted":1715274683},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730172,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730168
i should state that I'm staying in a giant 4 person canvas tent with a woodstove and burner lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715275273},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730175,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
refried beans with rice, sharp cheddar cheese, taco seasoning and Frito's
quick easy and filling","attachment":null,"posted":1715275845},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730183,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"MREs","attachment":null,"posted":1715276941},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730194,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Simmer brats in beer at home to cook them then freeze before adding to your cooler. Perfect for dinner your second night, just roast over the fire","attachment":null,"posted":1715279174},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730195,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730168
>OP here
>sigh
>SEXO
>SEXO
OP is a faggot, as always. Are you car camping? Gives you some options.","attachment":null,"posted":1715279460},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730423,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730195
fuck this again with the "car camping" did I name the JPG "car camping"? it's just camping. and yes I'm bringing a car. as previously stated.","attachment":null,"posted":1715333492},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
breakfast
>catch a grouse or quail
lunch
>catch a fish and forage wild garlic
dinner
>roast hare","attachment":null,"posted":1715333748},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730423
Why are you such a child about this? I'm not the anon you're arguing textbook definitions with, nor did I read through all that terminally online horseshit. I was just trying to figure out what exactly it is you're doing so I can tailor advice to it.
You can bring a whole ass grill. Canned sauces. The world is your oyster when it comes to car camping and cooking. Fishing would save you some cooler space, but canned fish as backup sounds like a plan.
Depending on how long you're staying, you can easily dry most fruits in advance in a dehydrator. I make jerky in mine, too. Good snacks all around, and again takes up no cooler space.","attachment":null,"posted":1715335355},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730429,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
Powdered soups, such a nice thing to pack. Make it thin like a refreshing drink, or thick for a meal. The mushroom one makes a great base for sauce, just mix it up with chrozio or rice.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715336352201902.jpg","filename":"powderedsoup.jpg"},"posted":1715336352},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730458,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730429
>refreshing drink
I know you meant for that to sound fancy, but the thought of drinking cream of broccoli from a water bottle like it's a fucked-up gatorade test flavor is less than appetizing","attachment":null,"posted":1715348191},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730489,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730427
I was sorta pulling your leg but c** camping genuinly irks me. its fine.
dehydrator is a cool idea but don't think i go /out/ enough to have one. Dehydrated foods are hella expensive but jerky is nice. ill make sure to pack some. Honeslty, I'm just going to chill for 3 days on a small remote peninsula in a canvas stove, probably in the rain, but the wood stove will keep me dry. I'm really looking forward to it","attachment":null,"posted":1715356955},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730489
canvas stove. lol. Canvas tent and a wood stove","attachment":null,"posted":1715357021},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730495,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just eat pemmican, all you need my guy","attachment":null,"posted":1715357833},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730499,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730489
>dehydrator is a cool idea but don't think i go /out/ enough to have one. Dehydrated foods are hella expensive
yeah that's the whole point of having one, and for the record most people dont use dried foods solely during camping. like i make banana chips to snack on at home and shit. And even still, your oven should be able to do it too","attachment":null,"posted":1715358463},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730506,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
Buckwheat with those crunchy fried onions, marjoram, garlic and any kind of meat.
Traditionally you fry real onions with bacon, salo, or kielbasa but on the trail any dried meat will do.
Apparently Americans have something called bacon bits which seem perfect for this, as long as you find ones made out of real bacon.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715359635423164.jpg","filename":"images.jpg"},"posted":1715359635},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730489
The dehydrator I have is a pretty cheap one (60 bucks, goes up to 70 degrees Celsius which is enough for jerky). I dehydrate apple slices which I add some cinnamon to, banana slices, strawberry slices (super sweet). No added sugar.
Jerky is crazy expensive when you buy it premade. You obviously lose some weight when you dehydrate meat, but if you compare the price by weight for lean beef to jerky, it just doesn't compare at all. If you change your mind, be sure to get the leanest meat you can and trim off any fat (it won't keep well otherwise).
You can also make fruit leather. I personally haven't tried that yet, but it's on my list.
>>2730499
What this anon said is true, you can prop your oven door open and get about the same results. I just never liked that idea, especially since it has to run for quite a few hours. I like turning the dehydrator on on a timer and just letting it do its thing without having to babysit it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715360801},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730566,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730516
I can set my oven to convection roast at like 175° and let it do it's thing. It's electric though idk if that makes a difference","attachment":null,"posted":1715370027},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2730571,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730566(Me)
Checked. Also scratch that, just noticed that it literally has a dehydrate function too that I've never used","attachment":null,"posted":1715370716},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2731195,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730516
>Lazy fruit leather suggestion:
Buy Applesauce and dehydrate that. You can buy the kinds with different flavours for variety, or you can buy the plain stuff in jars. Obviously you get whatever they add into it but it works well and you don't have to do any of the prep to the fruit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715531553},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2731197,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729615
>Pemmican
Ah yes, THE survival food is bad","attachment":null,"posted":1715531822},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2731198,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730566
I think it's alright as long as there's airflow.
>>2731195
Thanks anon, I'm going to give that a shot. Saves me a few steps.","attachment":null,"posted":1715531990},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2731200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729615
>Bad:
>Tins
>Bottles
Come on anon, you're not supposed to eat those.","attachment":null,"posted":1715532066},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2731206,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731197
That drooling retard lives by the goyslop meme so his opinion doesn't matter","attachment":null,"posted":1715532730},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2731486,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731197
OP here, since pemmican has come up, can anyone share some pemmican recipes? I made a similar concept one with a similar concept but much sweeter, like a breakfast food or energy bomb. its not truly pemmican.
>mix almond flour 1 cup
>with cocao 1/4 cup maybe less.
>with maple syrup or honey, 2 tbsp or until firmed up.
>makes a ball that looks like shit but is delicious. its sticks together but not sticky
>just keep in mind that maple syrup needs refrigeration of some sort.
>haven't tested with honey yet.
>be warned, it literally looks like shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715580126},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2731493,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729654
>Do people going backpacking call that camping?
>I dunno, maybe it's a regional difference.
I think it's an American distinction.
In Australia, the UK and Europe I've only ever heard backpacking used to refer to the extended holidays where you're travelling from hostel to hostel, living out of your backpack but definitely not camping (at least not for the majority of your time), maybe hiking but more likely travelling by train/bus/hitchhiking. Camping is used to refer to both car camping and what might be called backpacking in the states.
I'd literally never heard backpacking used to refer to camping (in the sense of hiking through the woods with a tent etc) until I browsed /out/.","attachment":null,"posted":1715581220},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2731530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729557
50c* is the perfect temp to dehydrate meats and vegetables. If you load your oven with sheets of thinly cut meat (bacon if you are lazy), pasta and diced vegetables, you can dry a great mix of ready meals out of it. Mix in some gravy powder and dried herbs/spices and divide them into zip locks.
When it is time to eat, add to the pot with some water and let it boil. The meat and vegetables will rehydrate and what ever water is left will boil the pasta and make a great sauce from the gravy.","attachment":null,"posted":1715595568},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2731547,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729615
>Pemmican bad
pleb detected. You know you're not supposed to eat it on its own right? You use it as a soup or stew base. Literally one of the best camping foods ever if you're not retarded.","attachment":null,"posted":1715602818},{"board":"out","thread":2729557,"pid":2731549,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731547
Based post. You can also fry it up, with other things or by itself. Even modern injuns turn their nose up at eating pemmican raw.","attachment":null,"posted":1715603375}]}
{"title":"Is barefoot running/hiking a meme?","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm about to buy a pair of hiking boots. My old ones are Vasque with a typical vibram sole with heels and stuff. The ones I'm eyeing are available in "batefoot" style whatever that means.
Why should or shouldn't I pick that one over the traditional sole? I'm mainly going to use them orienteering.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715047952175599.jpg","filename":"ECA73FED-62D6-4BC1-AEB4-41C0A223CDB4.jpg"},"posted":1715047952},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729046,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
>Why should or shouldn't I pick that one over the traditional sole?
Have you got a pair of old skateshoes?
Basically, you're looking at Vans soles (possibly thinner) with a boot top. If that'll work where you are, great. If there's rocks and roots and generally uneven terrain I would suggest your feet will very quickly become very sore.","attachment":null,"posted":1715048607},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729048,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729046
sounds like you don't like them","attachment":null,"posted":1715048787},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729049,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
(just enlarged OP pic)
My feet won't bend like this without breaking so I prefer a bit more support.
Good on you for orienteering though, I hope it's still done with a map and compass, it's a dying skill.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715048788124137.png","filename":"Screen Shot 2024-05-07 at 14.24.47.png"},"posted":1715048788},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729051,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729048
>sounds like you don't like them
Not for me with a flexy sole like that over rough ground, but I don't know what's comfy for you.
Just get some and let us know - you'll never know if you don't try, and worst case, you now have a pair of boots you can wear out with jeans.","attachment":null,"posted":1715049049},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729055,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729049
Compass if the area is big enough, which it is most times. Maps is pretty much a given. The club I'm part of has lots of teens and older folks plis young families. It's so wholesome","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715049484088360.jpg","filename":"014B63D2-8CAE-4C74-8748-E215AEEB0511.jpg"},"posted":1715049484},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
"barefoot shoes" are shoes. they are not going barefoot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715049530},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
ive been hiking and running barefoot or with minimalist sole shoes like OP for the better part of the last 20 years. yes your feet and legs will hurt for a while at first. modern humans are complete pussies and need cushioning for their tender tootsies. not to mention the fact that so few people even walk anywhere anymore","attachment":null,"posted":1715049837},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729058,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729057
What's the benefit of flimsy soles other than bragging rights for not being a pussy?
Is painful feet and legs all I'll have to show for or os there more to it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715050146},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"if you arent used to it then youre in for a reckoning. the shoes dont even out terrain so you feel every step. ultimately its good for your leg health but dont go out on an expedition for your first wear","attachment":null,"posted":1715050883},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729061,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729058
well its about personal strength, well-being and self-actualization as a human. walking barefoot in the garden of eden is how god intended","attachment":null,"posted":1715051026},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729064,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729055
>It's so wholesome
That's cool, ours was less so.
We'd get dropped off god knows where with a section of map with an X showing where the next bit of map was and so on. Could be one or several days through pic. Guaranteed to rain or be misty some or all of the time. No electronics.
I like your way better. Was alpine/wilderness guide and SAR courses rolled into one to either save time or give us more to do, possibly both.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715051201529744.png","filename":"Screen Shot 2024-05-07 at 14.50.32.png"},"posted":1715051201},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2729101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729056
No shit, retard.","attachment":null,"posted":1715060832},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2730118,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
as someone who has odd shaped feet who spent most of their childhood barefoot i only wear skate shoes/ barefoot hiking shoes or sandals. my feet never get sore probably because all the little muscles are stronger than most people who grew up in more supportive shoes.
>but muh prickles
i find that for even the worse of thorns thick baggy jeans that fall around my heel work just fine and i dont need any more ankle or foot protection than what normal sneakers offer.
all that being said if you prefer more supportive shoes anon who cares. i know im an outlier.","attachment":null,"posted":1715264706},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2730122,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
You should definitely go on a 5 day hike immediately after getting them.","attachment":null,"posted":1715265226},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2730126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
>Barefoot
I've been easing my way into it and genuinely feels great, I'm not a barefoot Chad yet but your feet toughen up rather fast and your grip on rocks is insane.","attachment":null,"posted":1715265654},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2730129,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729058
as you use them and your feet start building muscle for support(if they get support from your shoes they don't build support by themselves) you won't get sore anymore, or at least significantly less than you would with a conventional boot. Also because your feet's support isn't reliant on outside sources you have it with you all the time.
Some other benefits: you have way more stability(they permit your toes to act individually and over a larger area), you have more flexibility and more ground feel(at first you might not like feeling the rocks you're stepping on but it is way better and after your feet build actual muscles it won't hurt anymore)","attachment":null,"posted":1715266347},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2730131,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
You'll probably be walking wrong initially, your muscles will be underdeveloped and there are some terrains for which a thin sole is a bad fit.
You can of course get shoes with less heel drop that still have thicker soles.
>>2729058
Lower risk of a sprained ankle once you're more used to it and it doesn't stop you from using your whole foot in the walking/running motion.
They're also more more suited to my retarded footshape because barefoot shoes typically avoid squishing all your toes together.","attachment":null,"posted":1715266480},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731225,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
I preordered these back in October and have been using them weekly since January. I fucked around with minimalist shoes for the last couple years, Xero, Lems, Tadeevo, I even made a simple pair of center seam mocassins and wore those on a couple trips.
The ultimate issue I've had is that the thin sole is just too, thin, any rock you step on is going to make itself apparent, and the thin nature of the sole means they wear out in a year or less. I still like zero drop heels and a wide toe box so these seemed like they would be a happy medium and I've been very happy.
I hike with the Jim Greens multiple times a week and my only concern is their longevity. Also like other anons have said, you'll want to take it slow if you've never worn mimalist shoes before, start out with 2 miles hikes max for the first month to play it safe and get accustomed to your new gait.","attachment":null,"posted":1715536158},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731287,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
Barefoot walking is much healthier than wearing shoes/boots all the time, and the natives got around fine wearing nothing but moccasins to protect their feet from thorns for millennia.
That being said, it you're going to be walking somewhere with rocks, roads, or even mountains, going barefoot or wearing "barefoot shoes" will feel no different than going on a hike while deliberately placing rocks in your boots. Honestly just stick to conventional heavy duty hiking boots, then change over to good sandals whenever the terrain is nice enough.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715547495172832.jpg","filename":"h073F20EC.jpg"},"posted":1715547495},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731320,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729049
They don't need to flex like that, I put a stiff insole in mine to get more support. I don't care if it's not pure barefoot it works for me.","attachment":null,"posted":1715556377},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731321,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729064
Kahurangi? It's a jungle in there.","attachment":null,"posted":1715556596},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731322,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731287
>the natives
Had a life expectancy of 30 years","attachment":null,"posted":1715556685},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731836,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731322
That's just cause all the weak ones died within a year, ignoring those natives lived to 90 on average","attachment":null,"posted":1715644379},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731836
>if you ignore how an average works then the average looks a lot better
Amazing. Now tell us how the average Roman actually ate bugs exclusively.","attachment":null,"posted":1715646181},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731846
In that context an average is a metric for retards. What the guy you replied to was suggesting, correctly, is that the median age at death was not much different than today.
And suggesting that what differences there were, either average or median, were due to footwear makes you a double retard.","attachment":null,"posted":1715648853},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731866,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731321
Near enough.
You been up the Richmond ranges? Underrated, but I hear sections are super busy now it’s part of the Araroa trail.","attachment":null,"posted":1715650072},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731871,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731855
>correctly suggesting that 100 percent of third-world migrants are peaceful and valuable members of society because we didn't count the percentage that aren't
lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715650686},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
I run and hike in barefoot shoes whenever I can. Best thing you can do with your feet and leg. Since I use barefoot shoes I don't have knee pain.
I don't want to get normal shoes ever again. The minimum I need is zero drop and wide foot space.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715665143871244.jpg","filename":"DSC_4534.jpg"},"posted":1715665143},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731949,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">barefoot
>shoe
nice mental gymnastics","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715680240473901.jpg","filename":"PANA3183.jpg"},"posted":1715680240},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731971,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731322
Are you implying that the infant mortality rate of primitives was caused by the adults not wearing shoes","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715689873611137.png","filename":"1713746311563379.png"},"posted":1715689873},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2731984,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731971
NTA but he seems to be saying that basing your decisions on the habits and lifestyle of a failed primitive race is ill-advised.","attachment":null,"posted":1715693883},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732079,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731984
>Failed primitive race
How foolish of me to have forgotten that only the natives didn't wear shoes, and that every other group on Earth was born with thick rubber boots back in the stone age.
Also, the post says that the natives got on fine doing it, which is true. This may come as a surprise, but while the Indians may not be as good at us at the creation and maintenance of higher civilization, it's quite possible that the primitive tribe of nomadic hunters knew a thing or two about walking around in the outdoors.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715715817916099.jpg","filename":"29709599112_9ba40cae05_z.jpg"},"posted":1715715817},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732086,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
I own a pair of those Jim green barefoot boots and I've worn them everyday at work for a few months now as a surveyor and they are super comfortable, I actually bought a pair of their razorbacks a day ago and I'm wearing them now","attachment":null,"posted":1715716546},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732094,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731931
What are those shoes? Also, comfy pic; where is it taken?","attachment":null,"posted":1715717914},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732144,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Will wearing barefoot shoes help me fix my squished in toe structure? I want to have splayed out toes like humans naturally do","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715732090164582.jpg","filename":"171517749072741647.jpg"},"posted":1715732090},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732152,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"alright bro we all know you just wanted an excuse to post your hogs","attachment":null,"posted":1715733761},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732220,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732094
Merrell Wrapt Mid Wp.
It was taken in Slovakia, we started from Podlesok.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715758427782882.jpg","filename":"DSC_4531.jpg"},"posted":1715758427},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732222,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732144
You have to do foot exercises too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715758769},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732257,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have some Vivobarefoot Forest ESCs and really like them","attachment":null,"posted":1715772917},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732144
Get toe spacers. You probably want sandals over shoes
With toe spacers you should notice your circulation improve immediately
>>2729038
Honestly not a fan.uses nlblown rubber so will wear fast. Should have beefed up like lems or gone with Solis rubber like their other models","attachment":null,"posted":1715788244},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731287
>it you're going to be walking somewhere with rocks, roads, or even mountains, going barefoot or wearing "barefoot shoes" will feel no different than going on a hike while deliberately placing rocks in your boots
thats a retarded take. i scree walk barefoot all the time, it is actually easier to grip the rocks with bare skin than some boot sole. most of the "beaches" of the north pacific arent sandy anyway its piles of boulders covered in barnacles and zebra mussels. yet somehow i can do it without crying like you are right now","attachment":null,"posted":1715788703},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732312,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731322
>30 years
people always throw that kind of hyperbole around but theres plenty of evidence of humans living much longer in primitive societies and even nowadays. living simply is a recipe for good health","attachment":null,"posted":1715789270},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731971
>>2732079
>muh infant mortality pilpul cope
>sabotage your body when you are young, your feet can take it!
the average life expectancy of an adult male street sweaper in industrial london was 22 years old. The average life expectancy of a factory worker was 40. the average life expectancy of a modern american living in the roaring twenties with access to most modern conviences was still only 60. stop beliving deathcult propaganda and take care of your self. The stoneage retards that lived to 30 were never living to 90 unless they occupied a position of privilege (leadership/priest caste). No big wumpum fire warrior was making it to 90 hunting buffaloo with their bare feet, but his boss probably did since he sat on his ass all day giving orders just like today.
>which is true
it's not true. you are biologically immortal until your mid 20s, which means you can abuse the fuck out of your body doing retard tier shit until you start hitting that middle age. Oh wow, look at those statistics. Body stops being able to replace cell damage and BASED HECKIN BAREFOOT NOBLE SAVAGES suddenly start dying a few years later from accumulated damage.
also, you should be wearing shoes to protect your dumbass from parasites and fungal infections. Not wearing shoes is like saying 'i dont need modern sanitation, the noble indignenous people drank water unfiltered and lived to 30 because of infant morality hurr durr durr'
>Are you implying that the infant mortality rate of primitives was caused by the adults not wearing shoes. HAHA ADULTS NO WEAR SHOE, CHILD LE DIE?
infant morality was increased by children not wearing shoes, that is easily proveable. chronic infestation with parasites, entering the body through cuts on the feet, would result in chronic malnutrition which would lead to a lower quality of life and early death. an adult who lives to an oldage but is chronically weak would also be a poor provider for achild, indirectly contributing to child mortality","attachment":null,"posted":1715790464},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732324,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"why is every shoe today le Barefoot™ even if it don't have anything with barefoot?","attachment":null,"posted":1715791224},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732144
Yes, just by walking, spreading and some massaging in the evening.
Do not post pictures of your feet, cut your toenails.","attachment":null,"posted":1715791559},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732311
Meh, I guess I'm just used to boots. The more you go barefoot, the tougher your feet are, and I really don't do it anywhere near as often as the people who swear by it. My issue has never been the thorns or pebbles, but those annoying marble sized rocks that I always seem to step on while running. Those fuckin hurt.
That actually reminds me though, I saw this video of a real old afghani elder dude who got his first pair of sandals after walking the rocky slopes barefoot all his life. Bro was actually able to cut callouses as thick as his fingers off the bottom of his foot, and still have tough as nails feet.
>>2732318
>Average life expectancy of an adult male street sweeper in London was 22 years old
Yet they wore shoes. Curious.
Firstly, I have never seen someone throw a fit this big over shoes. Chill out my man.
Secondly, people died back then because of disease mostly, which now that we have modern sanitation (not to mention stronger immune systems due to constant biological turmoil) is not really an issue. Walking barefoot doesn't damage you. You get sore and bruised when you first start because you've been wearing shoes since you were a kid.
Side note, fungal infection comes from your feet being wet for a long duration. If I wear shoes and don't change my socks after them getting wet, I get trench foot. This is no problem when you have a constant supply of warm, clean socks like (you) do, but in the case of people outside for months or even years, sometimes you find yourself in conditions where it rains for a week or more. You know how to prevent trenchfoot in conditions like that? Keeping your feet open to the air lmao.
Tl;Dr: shoes were not the miracle cure to the average age of death. Sanitation was. You're weirdly angry, now go outside.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715807970925483.jpg","filename":"1712448629215340.jpg"},"posted":1715807970},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732972,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732144
I ruined my feet wearing high heels for 12 hours a night (I did VIP bottle service for a few years) but managed to fix it almost. My toes were crushed together and I had fallen arches. I also had ATP from when I was younger. I still overpronate when I walk, but continue to work on my gait. My feet used to randomly get a swollen spot on the bones on the top and I always had foot, knee and hip pain. I don't have any of those problems anymore, and have regained a lot of strength and mobility since I started 5 years ago. Here's what I did.
>stop wearing any shoes that are causing this problem for you, this is the most important because you will just put yourself back at square one every time you put them on during the first year
>toe spacers every night after a warm shower
>then stretch my feet and ankles
>do feet exercises throughout the day when I remember, so at least once a day
>also calf raises and then stretches
>don't neglect stretching and strengthening the quads, hamstrings and hips
>barefoot at home, including outside, only wear shoes when I have to go places
>mindful of my gait and correct it every time I notice it is off
>my shoes are all flat, thin soles, thin fabric and wide size
>my everyday and gym shoe cost $8 because of how little material it is made of
This is a mostly fixable issue. You won't be able to get rid of any extra bone growth, but you can improve a lot. Hope you have success anon, your feet look like they hurt at the end of a long day.","attachment":null,"posted":1715957713},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2732985,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732421
>Bro was actually able to cut callouses as thick as his fingers off the bottom of his foot, and still have tough as nails feet
gnarly, i half gagged and half am amazed","attachment":null,"posted":1715961286},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2733240,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
For anyone looking for recommendations here is mine.
>freet
Get one with the side stitched sole. I use Esk. Generally barefoot shoes only use glued soles and time and wax conditioners will break down the bond. Freet uses good leather too. They used to sell an eva transition half insole that was the best.
>vivobarefoot
The esc tracker and forest are probably the best outdoor barefoot options out right now. Lots of grip and good leather. I find the fit of the tracker especially good. I do think they use an outsole material that wear a little too fast (they just say 50% additive but probably PU) and the tread will collect mud and rocks like nobodies business.
A lot of vivobarefoots models are not worth it. Easy to get a refer a friend coupon too for site. Hate their insoles.
>bedrock sandals
Best sandals you can get. Can even be resoled in us unlike vicobarefoots which only is good in UK.
>belenka
Specifically barebarics since it uses a side stitched sole. Probably best for a casual shoe option or transitioning since the outsole tends to be hearty. Try to find a us retailer cause shipped from Czech republic.
>other info.
I am more of a fan of a minimalist shoe so tend to buy barefoot and add a solid insole after sizing up a half size to whole.
I like tread labs for traditional support with cushion because you buy foam top with support bottom and then the foam top replacements are only 20 after. But foam stinks.
I also use the Canadian wool insoles that are flat but chunky which is still no heel lift. You can find on Amazon. They are navy. They have a chunkier grey one too. Going to test a Buffalo one for more insulation in winter.
I also like meindls cork insole which only has a few mm of lift.","attachment":null,"posted":1716039398},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2733242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733240
If you look up Lems boots you will see that they use blown rubber that wears faster than solid rubber. It is more comfortable but if you want it to last a long time you want it really thick like lems boots.
Jim greens uses the same type if rubber in this shoe which is a shame.m because it will wear fast.
I have contacted Jim green about this and asked them to make a solid rubber and custom shop won't even do it even though the baobab design can technically accommodate a flat solid rubber outsole.
Furthermore I don't think a welted shoe lens well to a bearfoot shoe because it makes landing on the balls of your feet or mid strike even harder since you typically have a thicker midsole insole outsole and the outsole tends to extend farther back behind the heel.
Like people thinking they should buy the pacific Northwest firefighter boots that weigh 5 pounds to hike the Himalayas or fight zombies in the end of times people look at the Jim green bearfoot boots as the end all be all but they will both fail in durability test compared to solid rubber sole options even plastic rubber like nitrile as well as fail in their goal to act like a bearfoot shoe or booth aside from having a wide toe and not having a heel taller than the forefoot or no drop.
I like Jim Greens other offerings especially their value but for bearfoot shoes this is the reddit midwit option because it looks good on paper but falls short in execution","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716039893572029.jpg","filename":"311.jpg"},"posted":1716039893},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2733423,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729038
So the thing about barefoot vs. traditional soles with raised heels is the way that they affect your bodies own bio-mechanics. This may sound kinda cringe but for all intents and purposes most people spend their whole lives literally walking wrong, as crazy as that concept may seem.
If you've lived your whole life wearing conventional shoes almost all of the time, then you likely walk with a heel to toe movement in which you strike the ground with your heel and roll it forward. This happens simply because of the way shoes are shaped and generally its fine because of the padding there.
When moving around barefoot, or in minimalist shoes with a 'no-drop' heel, if you walk the same way you would in normal shoes your body is going to be absorbing that impact straight on, it'll kill your feet, legs, back, and may even cause headaches. So if you are going to make the transition to walking barefoot or in minimal footwear, you will have to walk with a form in which you land with the balls of your feet, and drop the heel down second. When done correctly, this form will cause your feet, legs, and butt to act like a spring so to speak, absorbing that impact. Think of the way a dogs hind leg is shaped and how it moves. A word of warning, however, that using the correct barefoot form will probably suck since your body isnt used to it, and you're using muscles you aren't used to using.
TL;DR
I highly recommend walking, running, and all manner of other physical activity in bare feet or wearing minimalist shoes, its my opinion that the form is simply better for your long term health and wellness, but transition into it progressively and pay attention to your body. This isn't even considering the other benefits of barefoot or minimal shoes, so I think there's a lot to gain from making the change.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716084344725268.jpg","filename":"Room reveal.jpg"},"posted":1716084344},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2733425,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733423
Also just a note that there is a good entry level brand of minimalist shoes you can buy on Amazon called Whitin that are fairly cheap but also good quality. A good brand to look at later on if you decide you enjoy barefoot shoes and want something nice is 'Vivo Barefoot'. Vivo has a large selection of good quality minimalist shoes.","attachment":null,"posted":1716084667},{"board":"out","thread":2729038,"pid":2733430,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731949
based","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716085474112521.jpg","filename":"Scrummy.jpg"},"posted":1716085474}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2729721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">early May
>96° F already
Are y’all really going out in this?
>t. Floridian","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715186299560222.jpg","filename":"IMG_0187.jpg"},"posted":1715186299},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2729725,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729721
>200% humidity for months on end
>can barely breathe outside
i'm glad i left that hellhole","attachment":null,"posted":1715186581},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2729743,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729721
10;00clock,,sunny,,temp 58,,humidity negative 8,,sssssip coffee.,
,,last month waswarmer.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715189734599836.jpg","filename":"cooker.jpg"},"posted":1715189734},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2729778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729743","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715193363807215.jpg","filename":"IMG_0198.jpg"},"posted":1715193363},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2729784,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729721
What a surprise, Florida is a shithole.","attachment":null,"posted":1715193902},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2729813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729721
Brother I just unloaded an entire semi truck worth of metal bedframes into a powerless, waterless Quincy warehouse.
You bet your ass I'm gonna take a leisurely stroll through the flatwoods come Saturday.","attachment":null,"posted":1715198820},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2729815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729813
Forgot pic related","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715198984629814.jpg","filename":"20240508_160838.jpg"},"posted":1715198984},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2729828,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729721
I got a foot of snow today","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715200580439056.jpg","filename":"026779AE-7530-4985-B887-A72542F22952.jpg"},"posted":1715200580},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2729839,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729721
Who would wanna live in a place like smelly old Florida?","attachment":null,"posted":1715203293},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2729988,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729721
It's been a weirdly long, cool spring in southern Arizona. My windows are still open all day except a couple hours in the afternoon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715229221},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2731028,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729721
I had frosts until 3rd May. It was the wettest winter ever, on record, ever.
I have never needed my heating on this late before (by about 2 months difference).
It was warm for the last week, and then will return to the seasonal average.","attachment":null,"posted":1715472990},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2731036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729721
>forecast rain all week averaging in low 60s
It's fucking May why do we still have April weather. Fuck this global warming shit why is it taking so long.","attachment":null,"posted":1715475650},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2731039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729721
Louisiananon here. It fucking sucks. It’s usually warm but the last two weeks have been a solid 10° above average. It cooled off last night and looks like it’s back to normal.","attachment":null,"posted":1715476449},{"board":"out","thread":2729721,"pid":2732714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731036
geoengineering","attachment":null,"posted":1715882179}]}
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previous: >>2725600
Spring is in full swing! Stagger your bush bean plantings to get continuous harvests.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715208264712067.png","filename":"hgm389.png"},"posted":1715208264},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2729879,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"cucmbers","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715208436458167.jpg","filename":"IMG_6984.jpg"},"posted":1715208436},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2729881,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"and pumpkins, theyre getting nibbled on","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715208566190177.jpg","filename":"IMG_6985.jpg"},"posted":1715208566},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2729885,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729881
Do me a favor and replicate my test by spreading cayenne pepper everywhere around them. I am not getting the pepper on the leaves, only the soil.","attachment":null,"posted":1715208786},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2729887,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Cantaloupe and watermelon
>>2729885
okay will do","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715209187202435.jpg","filename":"KIMG0277.jpg"},"posted":1715209187},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2729959,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Making use of the bar I added to the greenhouse last week.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715223723760071.jpg","filename":"bIMG_2651.jpg"},"posted":1715223723},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730013,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729887
That's a lot of cantaloupes and watermelons. You must have a lot of space. Or are you growing them vertically?","attachment":null,"posted":1715231179},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729575
>Bulgaria ranks 30th in the 2018 Environmental Performance Index, but scores low on air quality.[134] Particulate levels are the highest in Europe,[135] especially in urban areas affected by automobile traffic and coal-based power stations.[136][137] One of these, the lignite-fired Maritsa Iztok-2 station, is causing the highest damage to health and the environment in the European Union.[138] Pesticide use in agriculture and antiquated industrial sewage systems produce extensive soil and water pollution.
>Bulgaria ranks 71st in the Corruption Perceptions Index[227] and experiences the worst levels of corruption in the European Union, a phenomenon that remains a source of profound public discontent.[228][229] Along with organised crime, corruption has resulted in a rejection of the country's Schengen Area application and withdrawal of foreign investment.
Uh...","attachment":null,"posted":1715231240},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730016,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Are electric tractors worth it?
On the one hand, a conventional tractor is cheaper if bought old and used, but it also makes you dependent on big oil and if SHTF, you're pretty much fucked. Moreover, the pollution from the tractor might contaminate your food, air, and water.
On the other hand, electric tractors are more expensive and their reliability hasn't been confirmed yet, it seems.","attachment":null,"posted":1715231307},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Where do you get your seeds from? This year thanks to moving to new house I really upscaled my agrarian projects, but I'm paying out of my ass for seeds. I plan to get seeds from fruits by the end of the year, but is that even a good idea? Since for example I have few pumpkin varieties, wont seeds end up as some crossbreeds? Same with tomatoes or peppers. Is there some place I can get seeds for cheap in larger quantities? Excuse my retardation on the topic I never had to worry about seed prices before","attachment":null,"posted":1715237559},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730016
If you have less than an acre, an electric riding mower is very nice. I know nothing about large farm equipment, but I suspect you're better off with a traditional tractor.","attachment":null,"posted":1715251947},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730063,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730029
Squash/pumpkin seeds that you scoop out of fresh produce are viable. Most dried beans and lentils will also plant very well. Fresh tomatoes also tend to have viable seeds.
Fruit trees are a whole different subject especially since so many fruit trees are grafted onto hardy rootstock.
As for worrying about varieties and cross pollination it varies by species. If you are wanting to avoid cross pollination you will need to stagger the planting so they don't flower at the same time. Or just don't give a shit and replant the seeds you do get.","attachment":null,"posted":1715252316},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730067,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730029
unless the seeds you're buying are dirt cheap ones, like radish or wheat, you're gonna be paying a good amount, especially with heirloom & specialty seeds, i think its worth it though, as you can keep the seeds from those
getting seeds via the plant is an extremely viable option, with pumpkins, a single gourd can easily have up to 100-300 seeds
also, pumpkin cross breeds depends on the variety, you can have a cushaw squash, a kabocha squash, a butternut squash, and a spaghetti squash all in the same patch, and they won't cross because they're all different species
if you really want to make sure you have plenty of seeds, it wouldn't hurt to have a specific plant that you just let all the fruit mature on, that way you can harvest the seeds off it","attachment":null,"posted":1715252658},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730071,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730013
both","attachment":null,"posted":1715253711},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730078,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Does shape of gaiwan matter?
Tall vs wide?","attachment":null,"posted":1715256333},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730080,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730078
What are you going on about ching ling fing fong wing wong hong kong song?","attachment":null,"posted":1715257827},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730071
Nice
>>2730062
I see. Thanks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715266517},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730135,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730016
Do you think youre not also fucked if shtf with an electric tractor? Electricity comes from huge industrial plants and youre not going to be manufacturing your own replacement batteries or parts if it really hits the fan. All complex machinery in need of part maintenance and industrially produced fuel are fucked in the long term then. Whether electric tractors are worth it now, id say not as there are a lot of compromises made for the green electric ideal as well as inherent limitations that make these sorts of electric machines unusable except for the smallest tasks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715267583},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730138,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730016
>it also makes you dependent on big oil and if SHTF, you're pretty much fucked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715267732513944.jpg","filename":"1712698366986641.jpg"},"posted":1715267732},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730178,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730135
>Electricity comes from huge industrial plants
Not if you have solar/wind/small hydro.
>youre not going to be manufacturing your own replacement batteries or parts if it really hits the fan
You won't need constant replacement. It'll be 10+ years by the time you need it, and by then things should return to normal, at least enough to get basic civilization going (with SHTF we're talking about serious disruption to modern civilization but not total catastrophe).
>as well as inherent limitations that make these sorts of electric machines unusable except for the smallest tasks
True.
>>2730138
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator
Yeah I thought about that too. These things seem difficult to make, though, and they're not sold commercially either.
I guess if you know how to make one and have it stored, then a conventional tractor is better.","attachment":null,"posted":1715276328},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730226,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What is this pepper plant's problem? Top pic. Middle is another in a pot and more in a wooden container, they are doing well.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715287546380805.jpg","filename":"IMG_1760.jpg"},"posted":1715287546},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730240,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730178
>Not if you have solar/wind/small hydro
I would think that you won't be generating enough electricity to keep a tractor operating what it needs to do with solar or wind or hydro without a pretty large setup. Although they would come in handy as better-than-nothing to accomplish heavy tasks occasionally when they get charged enough. Whereas we can get away with pretty minimal tractor use on our hobby farms if we want to, if SHTF we will all be depending a lot on whatever machines are available to produce more. And all of those methods of generating electricity are pretty fragile and need maintenance regularly, especially solar panels and wind, less so hydro. Not trying to argue with you though, I was imagining industrial collapse and not the temporary down like you are saying.","attachment":null,"posted":1715289726},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I can't even find a picture on google to describe this pest, it was a small white worm inside a sac inside a cherry leaf, anyone know this? Not a webbing but it was literally inside the leaf","attachment":null,"posted":1715292914},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730252,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730226
You are growing it in wood chips... They are sucking the nutrients away from the plant's roots.","attachment":null,"posted":1715293021},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730259,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730252
They mulch is from rotten plant stock, once rich in nutrients and mostly floating on the soil.","attachment":null,"posted":1715293847},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730268,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Been reading some stuff here and there about avoiding 'chemical fertilizer', I have some 34-0-0 that I was going to side-dress my corn rows with. I don't use glyphosate or pesticides because I'm concerned about it getting into the food and soil, should I be worried about using ammonium nitrate for corn?","attachment":null,"posted":1715295037},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730272,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730268
>avoiding 'chemical fertilizer'
What the hell does this mean?? All fertilizer is chemicals.","attachment":null,"posted":1715295609},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730280,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730251
probably a type of boring caterpillar
are you able to take a picture of it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715296687},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So I need to take the sprouts off before I plant potatoes","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715300957218887.jpg","filename":"IMG20240507185246.jpg"},"posted":1715300957},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730304,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730303
uh, are you joking?","attachment":null,"posted":1715301325},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730305,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730303
No? The sprouts are the plants.","attachment":null,"posted":1715301421},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730178
It's going to be hard to get ANYTHING to keep running, but a couple propane/gas tanks and some water and scrap to make wood gas and store it is going to be far far easier than repairing anything electric; god help you if some uncommon capacitor or chip break in your charging equipment or mower. As someone who fucks around with electronics and repair from time to time, give me gas w/ minimal or no electronics every time. Wood gas conversions were done during WWII in Britain by regular farmers, etc.; it could likely be done if you are handy or have any repair knowledge of gas engines at all with a couple days to get everything running okay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQIW4dVVokE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm46KAPLZpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfznunVzKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=522BaxM0Jnk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2atkQAiQbFg (there's wood gas tractors and cars in this series somewhere)
And with how everything takes a proprietary battery? Forget about it; that shit won't last maybe but a couple years. Even if you could tear the packs apart and replace the 18650s and the old pack charger and mower would play nice if you did so then you still have to balance each cell to the same voltage and hope they don't stray too far or it might just burst into flames/kill a battery when charging if the cell voltage from cell to cell gets too far apart and one gets over-charged/over-discharged. I want to say Aging Wheels or someone else fucking with EVs had a video on that. It's a nightmare when the world hasn't gone to shit; imagine trying to do that and balance each cell and make sure you pair up these cells to be the same brand, capacity, and even that they're both of the same rough battery "health", etc. when you can't just buy new or even go online and get a bin of used ones shipped across the country to your door. And that's IF they're built with 18650s or even lithium at all. You say it'd be hard but electric is not easier.","attachment":null,"posted":1715306005},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730343,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730178
And I agree with >>2730240; I thought you were more considering long term SHTF type situations. But even in today's world: how many times do companies just discontinue old electronic tool lines and leave customers fucked with no new batteries? If it's for something I'm using every day or something that needs a lot of power output for a couple hours, those batteries are going to get drained quick. How much power is required to fill it back up? How much is generated? Is it generated during the time you're not using "the tractor or something" if you don't have power storage? I'd find it hard to believe something like that would have a battery that would last (and still not be limping along) by even the 5th or 7th year, let alone the 10th. At that point I'd be salvaging a car from the junkyard and chopping it up to build me a new tractor like they used to do with Model Ts.","attachment":null,"posted":1715306263},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730358,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730304
>>2730305
Sorry I mean do I need to cut the part that's grown long back or is it fine to plant as is?","attachment":null,"posted":1715308858},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730358
its literally the plant, if you cut that, it dies
just put it in the ground, water it, and wait, then you'll have some potatos by winter","attachment":null,"posted":1715309365},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730389,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730268
Not really. If you over apply it then you could contaminate an aquifer or a body of water. The problem with chemical fertilizers is that they do nothing to restore the soil organic carbon in your soil which means that your soil degrades until your soil is destroyed. That's mostly what caused the Dust Bowl. Pic related.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715320078059774.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240509-234636.png"},"posted":1715320078},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730390,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730272
It means no organic matter","attachment":null,"posted":1715320171},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730303
>>2730358
You might want to rub off all but one or two sprouts on each potato so it puts more energy into growing bigger sooner.","attachment":null,"posted":1715320879},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730433,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730390
Doesn't matter. As that organic matter decomposes it releases the same "chemicals" that are in synthetic fertilizer.","attachment":null,"posted":1715338041},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730434,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730433
You're being disingenuous, faggot. Everyone who knows about agriculture/gardening is aware that synthetic fertilizers and synthetic chemicals are harmful to the environment long-term.
No amount of pilpul will change that fact, fucking jew.","attachment":null,"posted":1715338961},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730340
That's cool","attachment":null,"posted":1715339853},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730226
>>2730252
>>2730259
Does putting a thin layer of wood chip mulch on top of your potted plants like this really impact nutrient availability?","attachment":null,"posted":1715341227},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730444,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730226
Looks almost like they weren't hardened off before planting. Just a little sunburn.","attachment":null,"posted":1715343343},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730433
>As that organic matter decomposes
That's the problem. See
>>2730389","attachment":null,"posted":1715346410},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730440
Not really. Just don't till it in, and even then you can grow things very successfully in a pile of wood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%BCgelkultur","attachment":null,"posted":1715346547},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730434
They aren't. You're just a retard
>fucking jew
QED","attachment":null,"posted":1715354146},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730449
Manure is 100% organic but overapplying it also causes runoff which is harmful for the environment","attachment":null,"posted":1715354296},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730358
Ah I understand, no, that part will be the growing plant, although >>2730394 is correct, you can "pluck off" SOME of the sprouts on a potato to give the other sprouts a boost, since the energy from the potato will be going into just a few sprouts instead of a bunch.
>>2730440
A thin layer, no, although I don't think it should be up against the plant, I would prefer to see actual soil around the stem itself. But it does "suck away" nutrients from the soil below over time.
>>2730390
I still don't quite understand, organic matter is literally any rotting plant, aka compost... which contains the chemicals I mentioned earlier...","attachment":null,"posted":1715355235},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730481,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730434
>synthetic chemicals
Are you retarded? What the fuck does it matter where the ammonium in ammonium nitrate comes from??
>No amount of pilpul will change that fact, fucking jew.
>>>/pol/
Fuck off, loser.","attachment":null,"posted":1715355505},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730389
>>2730390
>>2730480
Nevermind, I misread, I understand what you're saying.","attachment":null,"posted":1715356319},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730486,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730479
You are correct, but your soil will be a lot healthier. Interestingly, organic farms tend to have a bigger issue with fertilizer runoff than chemically managed farms. Probably because it's more difficult to determine exactly how much of which nutrients you're applying at what time.","attachment":null,"posted":1715356672},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730487,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730484
I'm glad you got there. From the perspective of soil health there's no reason you couldn't also use chemical fertilizers as long as you have a way to maintain soil organic matter, but if you only use chemicals to manage your land then your soil will degrade and you might as well be doing hydroponics.","attachment":null,"posted":1715356882},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730487
Yes, I agree 100%. If you have enough organic matter in your soil, getting nutrient numbers perfect doesn't matter anymore because the healthy soil "takes care of it". Just tilling an area over and over without adding fresh compost will destroy the area.","attachment":null,"posted":1715358825},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's finally done, from now on all my green waste will go in here","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715363757381918.jpg","filename":"1702398072312829.jpg"},"posted":1715363757},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730536
Looks nice anon, are those panels veneer covered mdf? If so, they'll succumb to rain and fall apart.","attachment":null,"posted":1715363964},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730539,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730537
I have no idea what kind of panels those are, they are old flooring panels I used because I had them laying around wasting space.","attachment":null,"posted":1715364168},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730542,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bought this jabuticaba plant as a mother's day gift.
Hope it grows in container.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715364458773130.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240510_150625.jpg"},"posted":1715364458},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730542
>Hope it grows in container.
It's clearly growing already.","attachment":null,"posted":1715364659},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730545,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730539
Maybe paint them with tung oil at the start of the season to keep moisture out.","attachment":null,"posted":1715365608},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730542
Looked it up and found this for you.
https://www.wilsongardenpots.com/a/growing-jaboticaba-in-pots
>Selecting the Right Pot and Soil
>Choosing the appropriate pot size: The size of your pot is important. Too small and the tree's root system won't have enough room to expand, while a pot that's too large can cause waterlogging, leading to root rot. As a general rule of thumb, select a pot that is two or three times as wide as its existing root ball for best results.
You might want to get her a bigger pot for mother's day too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715365956},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730549,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730545
Thanks for advice but it's just not worth the effort, I still have dozens of those laying around, just look at background of that photo, if they start decaying I'll just screw in new panels, I think I have enough to replace every single panel in those bays.","attachment":null,"posted":1715366369},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730560,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How old do you think a vine this size is?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715368533592345.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240510_125140991.jpg"},"posted":1715368533},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730546
>while a pot that's too large can cause waterlogging, leading to root rot
Ignore this part though","attachment":null,"posted":1715368640},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730572,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730546
>>2730562
Thanks, brother.
I'll get a pot next week and probably wait until the winter in july to prune it a bit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715370901},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730573,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730444
I had my suspicions. Even though only 1 of the 6 are having trouble.
>>2730226
Could it also be from over watering?","attachment":null,"posted":1715371000},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730574,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730549
Good point. I hope you enjoy composting.","attachment":null,"posted":1715371120},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730560
3-6 years, weird they've kept it so long.","attachment":null,"posted":1715371359},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730572
No problem. Maybe try air layering and see if you can make a little joboticaba forest in containers. One last thought: if you're committed to containers then make sure you get one that's really strong and make sure to use a soil mix that's really light so you don't break your back when you have to move them. I recommend making your own with really lightweight additives like biochar and coconut coir with a good amount of compost to help it hold together and some fertilizer. If you get uncharged biochar then mix it with the compost, cover it with water, and wait a week and the compost will charge the biochar. Avoid clay, sand, and gravel.","attachment":null,"posted":1715371749},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730560
>>2730578
I concur with this anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715371810},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730578
>weird they've kept it so long.
Is it? It's not the first time I've seen big vines like that being sold in nurseries. Some even sell ancient olive trees (at least I figured they were ancient on account of their massive trunks).","attachment":null,"posted":1715372103},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730588,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730580
Hopefully, one day I'll have some land to plant on actual soil, but for now, container it is.
I bought a large bag of light potting mix, which I'll use together with some soil.
>air layering
What is that?","attachment":null,"posted":1715372530},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730590,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730588
It's a way to propagate woody plants. You root a branch while it's still on the tree and when the roots are ready you cut it off and plant it.
https://propg.ifas.ufl.edu/08-layering/01-layering-air.html","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715372818514295.jpg","filename":"image1.jpg"},"posted":1715372818},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730590
can't ya just lean a branch over and put a rock on it over the second pot of dirt?","attachment":null,"posted":1715373195},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730280","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715373372540356.jpg","filename":"1704807286182914.jpg"},"posted":1715373372},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730580
>Avoid clay, sand, and gravel.
Not that guy but why? Adding real soil will definitely help to retain water and nutrients. You'll also need the container to be heavy enough if you're gonna plant trees in them or they'll fall over. I would personally use 50% garden soil (unless your soil is very sandy), 25% compost, 25% peat moss or coir.","attachment":null,"posted":1715373511},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730602,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"First little bit of grass is starting to germinate.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715374606322967.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240510_164523.jpg"},"posted":1715374606},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730602
kill it now.
you're growing a worthless plant.
grow literally anything other than grass","attachment":null,"posted":1715375518},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730590
Very interesting. Thanks for explaining.","attachment":null,"posted":1715376245},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730590
Does it work with this year wood?","attachment":null,"posted":1715376343},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730624,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730560
That's not a vine, that's a fricking tree.","attachment":null,"posted":1715377328},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730626,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730606
kek","attachment":null,"posted":1715377390},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730629,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730560
Definetly more than 3 years old, I would wager at least 5","attachment":null,"posted":1715377604},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730633,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">mfw I see ground frost in the forecast and I was planning to start planting my tomatoes and peppers tomorrow","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715379007956101.jpg","filename":"1689574713667909.jpg"},"posted":1715379007},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730613
It should work on any branch, but it might depend on the species of tree.
>>2730612
No problem.","attachment":null,"posted":1715380953},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730596
Because of the weight. You have a good point about the soil not being able to support the tree though. Clay or garden soil would probably be a good addition. 50% is still going to be insanely heavy.","attachment":null,"posted":1715381069},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730646,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730593
Yes, but I can't remember what that's called. The method is also more prone to infection than air layering.","attachment":null,"posted":1715381130},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730648,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730629
If they trimmed off the buds before they flowered each year then it could be 3 years old","attachment":null,"posted":1715381210},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730657,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730590
Do I air layer with plastic or parafilm?","attachment":null,"posted":1715382598},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730661,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Can't wait to get a walker mower to cut it and clean up fall leaves.
>>2730606
No, I like it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715382927288943.jpg","filename":"maxresdefault (1).jpg"},"posted":1715382927},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730666,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730602
Look at this good-ass boy","attachment":null,"posted":1715383673},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730667,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730657
Either should work. You can even buy plastic shells for air layering online","attachment":null,"posted":1715383679},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My Confucius hinoki I planted at the beginning of last fall is putting on some nice yellow new growth.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715387589108126.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240510_202758.jpg"},"posted":1715387589},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730701,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bush cherries and honeyberries came in today. I can recommend honeyberryusa. They shipped really fast, I ordered these on Monday","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715388918332445.jpg","filename":"1714604813207764.jpg"},"posted":1715388918},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730702,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730595
Ain't it some kind of leaf miner? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaf_miner)
Look at the leaf under the light and tell if there is anything that looks like a larva inside the leaf.
Some insects, parasites and even smaller birds hunt leaf miners, and unless you grow your plant for the leaves, the miners are usually not something to worry about. E.g., celery fly devastates leaves of some leaf vegetables. Horse-chestnut leaf miner used to kill chestnuts in EU until some birds learned that they can feed on the larvae.
If you've got an infestation of these endangering the plant, think about a systemic pesticide, it's the only effective way to stop them.","attachment":null,"posted":1715389042},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730703,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730661
idc, i'll kudzu bomb your land and you won't do shit about it","attachment":null,"posted":1715389212},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730705,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730696
>>2730701
Beautiful.","attachment":null,"posted":1715389836},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730657
Parafilm is air-permeable... are you sure that's okay? I mean I'll try no matter what so yeah.","attachment":null,"posted":1715391382},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730696
What a funky guy!","attachment":null,"posted":1715391443},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730711,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730602
You're in Massachusetts, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1715391606},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730667
>Parafilm is air-permeable... are you sure that's okay? I mean I'll try no matter what so yeah.","attachment":null,"posted":1715391649},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730711
You should ask that in a way that sounds less creepy","attachment":null,"posted":1715393491},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730743,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730721
i meant for it to be unsettling, to imply i was just around the corner with my kudzu to take over his precious boomer hay","attachment":null,"posted":1715397216},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730748,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730708
It should be better than plastic for that reason, but as long as you use a sterile rooting soil then you should be good to go.","attachment":null,"posted":1715400115},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730822,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"And how old do you reckon this olive?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715426697386944.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240511_104229225.jpg"},"posted":1715426697},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730829,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730822
It's a pleasing example. Nice trunk, and will continue to age well. I'd buy it and plant it in a nice spot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715428019},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730834,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730705
>>2730709
Thanks, I've got two of them, and I want to get more, but the nursery only brought in big ones this year, and it's too early to get any deals on new stock. All the other trees I bought I either got on clearance or bulk deals from haggling with the manager.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715430795106591.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240417_094437.jpg"},"posted":1715430795},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730836,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730743
Don't worry the grass is just a step in the master plan, going to make beds around the entire perimeter of the yard planted with pachysandra, thyme, creeping phlox, and smaller shrubs, and going to interplant bulbs with the pachysandra. Let the borders gradually grow into the lawn over time until I just have paths to mow through the lawn. But it's a lot less expensive, and much faster to get grass established than it is to buy thousands of bulbs, hundreds of flats of pachysandra, thyme, and phlox. Plus I need to stop wind erosion, and prevent the sun from baking the ground.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715431394255939.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240511_082649.jpg"},"posted":1715431394},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I fucking hate deer
They have gone through the young trees and my orchard and stripped every tiny cherry, apple, and peach they can reach from every low branch. There's still some left on the upper branches but they of course removed every fucking leaf they could in the process.
The weird thing is they didn't touch the plums or pears.
I hope in about a year or two the trees will be tall enough that the deer don't bother but I am so fucking tired of this absolutely insane deer pressure on everything. There are so many of these cocksuckers now. I hate them so much","attachment":null,"posted":1715436432},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730846
Hunt them.","attachment":null,"posted":1715436699},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730888,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730846
I have the same experience.
>I hope in about a year or two the trees will be tall enough that the deer don't bother
Lol. Lmao even.
1. None of your trees will survive until you make mini fences around them. Ask me how I know.
2. Size of the trees doesn't matter. I've had mulberry that was big enough that sure it won't be attractive to them... well instead of chewing of bark, they started to rub their horns on it. Half of the bark got destroyed, had to make another small fence around this tree.","attachment":null,"posted":1715444520},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730911,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730888
What is your mini fence setup? I'm thinking triangle of t-posts, 8 foot tall, each post roughly 5 feet from the tree, that's about 26 feet of fence per tree.","attachment":null,"posted":1715449813},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730847
You'll never kill enough. If anything each deer you kill leaves room for another deer. You'd have to rent your land to hunters.","attachment":null,"posted":1715449879},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730915,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Potted, planted and pruned.
I figured the autumn here has been so cold that I'd chance it.
If the tree takes, next year I'll take an entire branch off.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715450003511636.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240511_143822.jpg"},"posted":1715450003},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730916,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Borax+honey worked OVERNIGHT to kill the ants I have in my raised planters. You have to mix it on a little piece of foil, don't mix it on the dirt itself, put honey on the foil and add borax and mix with a toothpick until it's a ball. Put the ball near the ants, agitate them, they instantly find it and start eating it and taking it back to the queen. Amazing.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715450077666310.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240510_164856165_HDR.jpg"},"posted":1715450077},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730920,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730916
Oh shit. Gonna try this, FUCK FIRE ANTS","attachment":null,"posted":1715450789},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730911
It's basic wire mesh circle.
Every single tree has its own.
It's ugly as shit having 30+ trees and bushes wrapped but it's the only way anything survives.
I hate deer.","attachment":null,"posted":1715451169},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730923
Plant a bunch of buckwheat around the perimeter and they'll mostly leave you alone.","attachment":null,"posted":1715452015},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730927
This is the only solution","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715452496091329.jpg","filename":"maxresdefault-1015082842.jpg"},"posted":1715452496},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730938,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730822
I have seen similar looking olive in my local shop, they claimed it was 70 years old but I doubt that was correct.","attachment":null,"posted":1715453814},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730941,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730822
Do they just airlayer these out of huge trees?
I doubt they grow these from cuttings, they would take forever.","attachment":null,"posted":1715454406},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730954,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730938
They're slow growers so it might've been true
>>2730941
I think they're grown in massive nurseries in spain","attachment":null,"posted":1715457981},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730955,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Clearance rack is new bes fren, got some miniature roses and columbines for $2 each","attachment":null,"posted":1715458060},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730916
Hey that's not a bad idea. I've tried borax and sugar and nothing really happened. This might be nicer than absolutely basting my doorways and door mats in permethrin to kill them before they get in...","attachment":null,"posted":1715459383},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730970,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My sweet potato flowers just wither and drop off the plant.","attachment":null,"posted":1715460599},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730977,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Started the cage for the garden today. 6x6x6, yes it's crooked, no I don't care. I just need a box to keep every pest/rodent/mammal/bird known to man out. Tomorrow I do the supports and chicken wire.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715461547234250.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240511_164439525.jpg"},"posted":1715461547},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730979,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730578
>>2730581
>>2730629
Can you grow them this tall if they're grafted on a different rootstock?","attachment":null,"posted":1715461958},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730984,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730979
Yep. Both the rootstock and the scion grow over time. Vineyards will sometimes cut all the flowers off of smaller vines so they can grow bigger.","attachment":null,"posted":1715463525},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730985,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Damn, I've got peppers already in 7b.
These are sugar rush peaches which supposedly take forever to ripen though. People seem to like them a lot. I planted about 200 pepper plants of various kind these year just because I got a bunch of seeds.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715463647136038.jpg","filename":"20240511_173815.jpg"},"posted":1715463647},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730985
I marked this row as various types of jalapeno. Cool looking flowers, I'll have to go back and check my notes to see what the fuck it is.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715463722069427.jpg","filename":"20240511_173804.jpg"},"posted":1715463722},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730987,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730985
Peppers will cross pollinate. You might end up with some weird tasting chilies.","attachment":null,"posted":1715464964},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730987
Yeah, the seeds might. But pepper seeds are cheap even for the bespoke varieties and they don't normally cross even if close unless you help it along. The peppers this will be as true as the online vendors selling five million flavors of Panamanian anal Abombers can make them.","attachment":null,"posted":1715466969},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730927
>>2730931
How does buckwheat prevent deer?? Does it draw them away?","attachment":null,"posted":1715466971},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2730999,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730927
Yeah, nah. We planted wheat in the 25 acre field around my yard and deer will still literally walk up on my garage to eat my potted plants.","attachment":null,"posted":1715467604},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731041,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"100 gallon bag full of micro dwarf hairy fuzzywuZzy tomatoes
They only get about 1.5 feet tall","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715477182942073.jpg","filename":"20240511_070308.jpg"},"posted":1715477182},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731041
How many gallons is that container?","attachment":null,"posted":1715477370},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731042
100","attachment":null,"posted":1715477407},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731045,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731043
I guess they're determinate if they stay that short? Presumably each will make not very much roots?","attachment":null,"posted":1715477793},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731046,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731045
Yes they stay tiny hence I’m making a tomato carpet.
The roots stay tiny as well","attachment":null,"posted":1715478318},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731131,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730994
No, the idea is you feed them something else and they eat fewer of your important plants. It works best if you combine feeding with other deterrent methods.
>>2730999
Maybe they didn't like regular wheat. You could try motion activated sprinklers or something that makes noise like wind chimes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715519626},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731150,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731131
> maybe they didn't like regular wheat
Lol. Lmao.
Deer love wheat but under any sort of pressure they will eat literally anything. I watched some eat a tobacco plant last year.","attachment":null,"posted":1715522792},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Going into the garden the morning after applying metaldehyde slug bait is like seeing the aftermath of a Civil War battle. Almost makes me feel bad for having used it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715523358},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731158,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729875
Can I used lights that are not "full spectrum" as grow lights?
I want to use this 3000k bulb to grow plants indoors. I do not like the look for 4000k or 5000k
>SANSI 300W Equivalent A19 LED Light Bulb, 4500 Lumens 3000K Light Bulbs, Non-Dimmable E26 LED Bulb with Ceramic Technology, 22.5 Years Lifetime, 30W Power Energy Saving for Home Workspace
>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CC8VW1N8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1","attachment":null,"posted":1715523723},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731161,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731158
My experience says yes, might not be as good, but it worked for me. Source: I used them for about half my seedlings this year.
Also, some of tonight's deer damage. I'm so fucking done. I'm going to start shooting them and hoping they leave a blood trail everywhere, as at least blood spooks off rabbits and deer for a while. It's legal in my state to kill wildlife out of season if it's destroying property, it's just so wasteful I hate to do it, as you're not supposed to actually use the meat without a permit, and I'm not paying a conservationist to give me what I need to approve a permit.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715524074974748.jpg","filename":"20240512_101106.jpg"},"posted":1715524074},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731161
how many deer will you have to kill before they stop munching that delicious growth?","attachment":null,"posted":1715524453},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731162
Experience on basedbean fields says a fucking shitload.
I am hopeful that this being a yard, right next to a more attractive field, and the fact they're coming here to pick fucking leaves off trees means they'll change minds fairly easily if the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Also bloodspill does deter them for a while. You just can't cover a field in blood (or can you) but hopefully enough of it near my gardens will help. Blood meal often gets me a short reprieve.","attachment":null,"posted":1715525345},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't these are going to ripen, but I don't know what they're going to turn into either.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715526330478285.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240512_105629.jpg"},"posted":1715526330},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731188,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731162
>>2731167
What if he gets dogs to scare them away or attack them?","attachment":null,"posted":1715531097},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731209,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731188
It's like putting in a fence, or anything else. At a certain point you spend a lot more on things other than just shooting them.","attachment":null,"posted":1715533427},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I started filling my bin just by throwing stuff into it but it probably isn't the best approach, how do I know if my ratio of browns to greens is correct, is there some sort of trick to it?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715541136596469.jpg","filename":"1715134196940155.jpg"},"posted":1715541136},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731251
Is it too dry?
Add more green stuff.
Is it too wet?
Add more brown stuff.","attachment":null,"posted":1715541856},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731259,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731251
>plastic erosion barrier
You should be using 1/2" metal wire fence or smaller. That fabric won't last.","attachment":null,"posted":1715542133},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731150
Sure, but the plants animals favor change based on their context. I have a flock of chickens and they love eating clover and grass and they've tasted one of my strawberries to death, but they've left the henbit deadnettle and the dandelions completely alone. Henbit was named because hens like to eat it and chickens are known for their love of dandelions, but my situation isn't unique with chicken farmers. Some years they might eat it and others they'll completely ignore it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715548055},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731292,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731251
>>2731256
This is a good heuristic. In general you want 2-3 times as much brown material as you have green. You can run your piles a little green and if they smell bad when you turn them then add more browns. A lot of people who compost keep a store of browns to mix in when they have greens available. If you have compaction issues then add in a bulking material and shift it out when the compost is finished. Wood chips are the usual go to for bulking, but I prefer using bones and lump charcoal.","attachment":null,"posted":1715548826},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731293,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">didn't want to bother this year so i started all my seedlings the same day
>cucumbers flowering already
kek at least EU weather's getting better for planting out soon","attachment":null,"posted":1715548998},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731295,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My test to see how carrots would do planting as soon as the ground was workable revealed that there was no benefit to jumping the gun. It took about 4 weeks for them to come up, they just waited for the ground to warm up. It didn't seem to hurt them, but there is significant risk they could dry out before sprouting. The last 2 weeks were pretty wet, so at least I wasn't having to water them twice a day after I uncovered the rows.","attachment":null,"posted":1715549994},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Guys I have to move to Texas. am I fucked?","attachment":null,"posted":1715555611},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731335,"name":"Anonymous","msg":""yellow" alpine strawbs, another marketing gimmick","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715558154374170.jpg","filename":"fakers.jpg"},"posted":1715558154},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731336,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Corn is doing good. Most is a foot tall or taller now. Some areas are lagging behind others, I need to side-dress fertilizer and cultivate it in sometime this week. Very happy with the progress of the corn over the still barely-emerging weeds. The painstaking selective watering was well-worth it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715558252990058.jpg","filename":"IMG_7080.jpg"},"posted":1715558252},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731338,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Some of them are a beautiful dark green","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715558401940983.jpg","filename":"IMG_7084.jpg"},"posted":1715558401},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715558474239818.jpg","filename":"IMG_7112.jpg"},"posted":1715558474},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731335
I got my first red one earlier yesterday. It was a bit mushy and all the rain lately probably didn't help. Mine are potted and pretty dense but I wonder if the birds have been getting them, as there are barely any berries.
I started the seeds indoors back in January and they really blew up once I moved them outside.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715558983680586.jpg","filename":"20240511_122457.jpg"},"posted":1715558983},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731354,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've got a fuckton of potatoes I sprouted that I don't really need. Can I store these for another year? Should I just not bother? I was reading I can just take them all and shove them into a bucket of dirt in my basement and they'll be fine","attachment":null,"posted":1715562136},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731363,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731336
>>2731338
Nice!","attachment":null,"posted":1715563241},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone tried trellising strawberries? Would the runners attach to and grow on a nearly vertical slope of dirt? Maybe they could grow down a column of pots? Ever since I first learned about strawberry runners I've wanted to try something creative with them to grow a truly massive plant. This new one I bought is a pink flowered everbearing variety too and I'd like to exploit this to make a nice looking ornamental out of it too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715563829},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731388,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I helped my elderly neighbor get her garden ready today, found a wild eastern prickly gooseberry growing there and took it home with me. Gonna go take a bunch of the volunteer black raspberries home with me too. Tomorrow is the day of days, I'm having 9 yards of compost delivered, building another 8x4x1.5 raised bed, planting 35 lbs of potatoes in grow bags, a 40ft row of blackberries/raspberries, about 100 strawberries and if I have any energy left, my tomatoes and peppers","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715565209195801.jpg","filename":"1710514676918824.jpg"},"posted":1715565209},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731400,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731293
How long are the vines? My cucumbers are like less than a foot tall and already have flowers. I know I fucked up, but still","attachment":null,"posted":1715566496},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731406,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I was gonna buy one of those fancy drip irrigation systems but realized I buried all my plants and didn't really mark where they are. Do you just basically place a stake every 12 inches and that'll be fine or do you need to be super close to the plants?","attachment":null,"posted":1715567878},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731371
I don't think trellising is going to work. The runners all put out their own roots.","attachment":null,"posted":1715568175},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731371
Try it out and look into strawberry towers. A nearly vertical slope of dirt is either going to need to be clay or have roots stabilizing it, or more likely both. Build the slope gradually and root the runners while you build it. Use clay mixed with compost. You may want to embed a watering system as you build it up by punching new holes in drip line before you bury the new hole and runners. Here's a recipe for a yeast based root wash to prevent mold without using fungicide. You should pour it over your runners when you bury them.
1 tsp dry active yeast
1 tbsp sugar
1 liter of water
Let sit 24 hours
Dilute 1:5 solution:water
Pour over roots","attachment":null,"posted":1715572315},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731406
It's better if the emitters are close to the plants, but if you use it to completely soak your soil then it won't matter. Can you manually water until they come up and then put the system in?","attachment":null,"posted":1715572443},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731450,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731335
Who would even want that?","attachment":null,"posted":1715574101},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"freakin shot in the dark but can anybody tell me what kind of fruit tree this is? are these lychees?
NSW btw, Sydney suburbs","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715581365513433.jpg","filename":"ss.jpg"},"posted":1715581365},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731495,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731494
If it would be growing in eu I would say mulberry.
Maybe you have them in Australia as well.","attachment":null,"posted":1715581454},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731497,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731495
hmm looks like it could be them except I the leaves don't seem to match. I can't find leaves that match","attachment":null,"posted":1715581980},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731506,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731497
Leaves do match a mulberry. If you think otherwise, try looking up another plant that produces multiple leaf shapes on one tree and some of the leaves have a lobed shape (as those encircled).
Keep in mind that mulberries have a broad range of possible leaf shapes, and it can even differ on the same tree season to season whether the leaves are lobed or not (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Morus_alba-leaves.jpg). Though I have seen mulberry trees that have only very large and unlobed all the time.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715585421799157.jpg","filename":"1715581365513433.jpg"},"posted":1715585421},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731508,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731506
oh yeah I think you're right actually. I think they must be mulbreeze. I'll have to swing by the area in Nov/Dec and check in person.
Thanks anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715585908},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731509,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731400
Heard you're supposed to pinch them off if they're that small.
Mine are around two foot maybe? Planted them two weeks early and kept them under a lamp but they're also new cultivars I haven't tried before.","attachment":null,"posted":1715586327},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731539,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone have a favorite gourd recommendation? Never planted any and thought I might get one straight into ground. I heard pattypans are nice.","attachment":null,"posted":1715601052},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731555,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731539
Luffa or giant bottle gourds","attachment":null,"posted":1715603937},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731557,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731555
That's what I was planning before, but they supposedly take too much space and I'm doing containers.
Also, is it normal for a red currant to still have no leaves at this time after a winter?","attachment":null,"posted":1715604032},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731557
You're going to need a big pot and a trellis for pretty much any kind of gourd. Maybe see if you can find a compact variety. I've never grown red currant, but it's partly going to depend on where you are. How long ago was your last frost?","attachment":null,"posted":1715604347},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731561
Oh for sure, I just saw it's even worse for bottles and luffas. Most of these space requirements are kinda bull though.
Frost should be ending on the 16th.","attachment":null,"posted":1715604476},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731574,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731539
Zucchini
>>2731557
>is it normal for a red currant to still have no leaves at this time after a winter?
No, it's not unless you are somewhere in the arctic circle","attachment":null,"posted":1715607233},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731574
>No, it's not unless you are somewhere in the arctic circle
Two for two with bushes for me then. Might just plop a potato in that bucket, then.","attachment":null,"posted":1715607979},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731588,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731438
That is a good idea. Thanks. I'll just do that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715610798},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731590,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731508
>swing by the area in Nov/Dec
You should go there right now, winter buds are one of the few key things to tell apart black mulberry from white mulberry (I mean the species, not the color of the fruit).
Black mulberries have beefy buds darker than the twig: https://www.flickr.com/photos/exetertrees/albums/72157714262769663/
White mulberries have small buds that are not darker than the twig.
I can't tell anything for red mulberries, for they are absent where I live.","attachment":null,"posted":1715611352},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731590
White mulberries will have a waxy look to the leaves, while also having much finer serrations than black","attachment":null,"posted":1715611612},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731563
Try it out anyways. Maybe you'll get mini luffas or gourds.
>Frost should be ending on the 16th.
I don't think you need to start worrying about your red currant just yet, but again I've never grown it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715611720},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731588
Good luck, anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715611793},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731602,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm building a very, very small pond in my backyard. I have clay from a local creek. Can I line the bottom of my pond with this clay?","attachment":null,"posted":1715613386},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731603,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731162
Every time you kill a deer, there's a spot in the ecosystem for another deer. If you thin their numbers now, next season more will survive because there will be more food to go around, and you'll have the same number after all. You can't kill enough to prevent them, you'll need a dog like >>2731188 suggests or to build a fence.","attachment":null,"posted":1715613516},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731494
>>2731506
100% a mulberry. Red mulberry I think.","attachment":null,"posted":1715613585},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It was supposed to rain yesterday so I planted all my potatoes but it didn't rain at all. Definitely supposed to rain tomorrow though. Do you guys think I need to bother watering my potatoes real quick or can I just leave it be and let the rain deal with it tomorrow?
I need to get some new hoses is my problem kek","attachment":null,"posted":1715613664},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731610,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731606
With tuberous plants in general you should only start worrying about watering after they've sprouted and produced leaves","attachment":null,"posted":1715613942},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731602
Yes. Look into puddling. Dig out your pond and and extra 6" and then toss some clay into the lowest point. Hose it down and stomp on it until you have a layer about 6" thick that forms a puddle. Continue out from that point until the entire pond is lined with clay","attachment":null,"posted":1715616410},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731652,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731594
>I don't think you need to start worrying about your red currant just yet
Maybe not. I think I can see some green on there.
Anyways, everything else looks primed for bumper crops this year so I'm not worried about having nothing to eat.","attachment":null,"posted":1715617596},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731658,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731652
Nice. I'm hoping for a good harvest too","attachment":null,"posted":1715618068},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731663,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731658
Whatchu growing? Wish I had the space for tomatoes garlic and onions, really.","attachment":null,"posted":1715618473},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731665,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731593
>White mulberries will have a waxy look to the leaves, while also having much finer serrations than black
Oh, so you enlightened me that I have a black mulberry that bears white fruits!
You can't tell apart mulberries that easily, and that's why nurseries con people by mislabelling and selling morus alba in place of morus nigra. There's a number of minor traits that can help you tell those apart, but in reality only few give you any confidence. I believe apart from looking at twigs in winter you can measure mature leaf thickness (0.4mm for nigra, 0.2 for others), compare the time when first flowers and first fruits appear (nigra is a month late compared to alba), and tell if the fruits have a visible stalk (fruits of nigra almost sit on twigs, alba has noticeable stalks). Oh, and if you're in zone 6 or colder, no nigra for you, they just freeze out.
I live in Europe, so we don't have to deal with identifying morus rubra that, to make things worse, freely crossbreeds with alba, hence I cannot tell anything certain on that.
What's worse, many people bought a 'black mulberry' that is in fact a morus alba from a 'trusted' nursery, and they are convinced that they have morus nigra specimen and spread the word about differences of their tree and a tree they saw bearing white fruits.
In a lab it's possible to definitely tell apart the black mulberry from others, for it has whooping 308 chromosomes, while the white and red, as most other morus species, have 28 chromosomes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715618566},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731670,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731663
potatoes, not tomatoes, i'm growing some*","attachment":null,"posted":1715619068},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731663
>>2731670
Tomatoes, potatoes, garlic, and onions like your posts mention. I'm also growing peppers, raspberries, strawberries, asparagus, beans, squash and a few other things. I'm in zone 5 so it's not even last frost for me yet. I'd like to grow a lot more, but there's never enough time.","attachment":null,"posted":1715620587},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731691,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731683
Cool. I'm testing strawberries this year too.
And yeah. Almost wish I was an Aussie for those planting seasons.","attachment":null,"posted":1715621041},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731729,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731665
whoa I take back the red mulberry thing, you know your shit. This picture is a red mulberry though, right? alba?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715627763317912.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240430_113412161.jpg"},"posted":1715627763},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731732,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731729
they turn black eventually, for clarification. I can try to get good pics tomorrow, they are ripening as we speak. I personally thought they were delicious, and they inferior to nigra?","attachment":null,"posted":1715627827},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731752,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731691
There's a few places that have really good climates for gardening. None of them are anywhere close to me though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715630155},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731757,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Cat was digging atound the plant.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715630604507280.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240513_165905.jpg"},"posted":1715630604},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731772,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731388
on to potatoes","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715632328269771.jpg","filename":"1707989053682672.jpg"},"posted":1715632328},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Spread fertilizer, cultivating it into the soil","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715633461651440.jpg","filename":"IMG_7147.jpg"},"posted":1715633461},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731772
You'll get a fuck-ton of taters out of that, especially if you dig down a few feet inside and fill the entire lot with good tater soil. Love the smell of a good earthy tater.","attachment":null,"posted":1715634567},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731789
looks like a jones soda picture","attachment":null,"posted":1715635955},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":""Cilembu" cultivar sweet potatoes in a ~40 gallon bucket. I'm worried I didn't fertilize enough or correctly, so I will be performing a test with a couple dozen 3 gallon buckets, using different fertilizer regimens. I hope it's not too late in the year to start this.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715636553916947.jpg","filename":"sweetpotatoes.jpg"},"posted":1715636553},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Also, some of the tomatoes I'm growing are being very funny and growing leaves at the end of their flower clusters... what's up with that??","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715636619438734.jpg","filename":"flowerleaf.jpg"},"posted":1715636619},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731805
Incredibly, I am 99% this is truly the same cultivar as was advertised, even though I purchased the sweet potatoes off of Etsy. Look at this street view shot from Cilembu village in Java.
I'm terribly excited. These were some of the sweetest sweet potatoes I have ever tried.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715636839608538.png","filename":"cilembu.png"},"posted":1715636839},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731795
Here's last year's haul. I planted them in an identical raised bed and another roughly 2.5x5ft in-ground bed. This year I'm using 15 gallon grow bags for taters","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715637076976349.jpg","filename":"1693171083064741.jpg"},"posted":1715637076},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731811,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731810
I can't into upright images apparently","attachment":null,"posted":1715637138},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731342
I found alpines (Fragaria vesca) to always have a slightly mushy texture. Very soft fruit seemed to be a quirk of that species","attachment":null,"posted":1715638861},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731826,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"A few cooler nights coming up. Going to try some passive heating for the greenhouse using one of my black 104L tubs. I might end up bringing the plants in on the night that gets down to 2C to be safe.
Of course the tub was nearly full when I remembered one of them had a hole that I patched. And sure enough that was the one I was filling. It doesn't appear to be leaking but I should know for sure by tomorrow.","attachment":null,"posted":1715641684},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731789
13 rows on the 13th
>>2731803
never heard of that sodie pop","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715645902523179.jpg","filename":"IMG_7158.jpg"},"posted":1715645902},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731860,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They had dwarf golden hinoki's at home depot for about 1/5th what the next cheapest nursery has them for, so I bought all there was left. Haven't decided where to plant them yet.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715649639868555.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240513_211711.jpg"},"posted":1715649639},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731902,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">already seeing the grey slugs that I had to wage war on last year coming back
round 2?","attachment":null,"posted":1715655780},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731914,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731815
Interesting. I've never grown them before and just happened to get a packet of seeds. I figured I'd grow them potted and maybe transplant some later if they got too crowded. I have two large pots with about six plants each in them and they have filled it with foliage already.
>>2731161
Building on this, two deer bit it tonight. I can't bring myself to shoot a Doe with fawns, and there at least two does in my area with twins (what the fuck, they wont "adopt" orphaned fawns, will they?), but any wine aunt childless does or knobby headed shits are getting it. My neighbor down the road is similarly going to war. Incident to my beginning chemical warfare, it looks like they fanned out and demolished his garden. He lost about forty large plants overnight. I lost about 150 strawberry plants overnight as well.
I haven't seen them until after nightfall lately, but the first one I see during the day is going to catch a 50 bmg with his dumb fucking face. I've always wanted to see what that does to a deer, and it will probably be inside of 200 yards so the results might either be very impressive, or a simple pass through.","attachment":null,"posted":1715659439},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is part of the reason I suck at gardening because I haven't been following this?
https://www.farmersalmanac.com/calendar/gardening","attachment":null,"posted":1715663441},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731924,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What do you guys think of all the small/local farms and home gardeners that are being shut down in the US and Europe?","attachment":null,"posted":1715664222},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731926,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731923
While knowing the growing calendar of your respective state/zone is important or even essential to succeed, that moon stuff sounds like bullshit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715664379},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731923
That's old lady stuff, common everywhere. Not true tho.","attachment":null,"posted":1715664817},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731940,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731826
>night that gets down to 2C
Jeez, worse than here. What's your plant outside night temp? I'm seeing weird numbers here and not sure what to do.
>>2731815
They're pretty traditional here and sure, that's how I always remembered them. They're so good if crosspollinated with domesticated strawberries though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715670941},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731860
Here's a pic in daylight, also got some parsons junipers","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715683714161576.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240514_064717.jpg"},"posted":1715683714},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2731990,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is it a good idea to throw large pine cones into compost bin?
I'm not sure if they'll break down fast enough.
I could burn them instead.","attachment":null,"posted":1715695188},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How often do you water your lawn? My parents refuse to do so in their house, but I water my own once a week in the morning, and not at all if it rains during the week.","attachment":null,"posted":1715697455},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732012,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So the red currant is alive. I also received over twice as many strawberries in my order as I needed so I had to plant them around it and in a small pot. Still have some left over kek.","attachment":null,"posted":1715698310},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732017,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731990
Do it. Pinecones make a great bulking material. Sift out any bits that don't compost and toss them in the next batch.","attachment":null,"posted":1715699021},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732019,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732012
That's a good problem to have.","attachment":null,"posted":1715699082},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732006
Once a week should be good. You can get a rain gauge and stick it in the lawn halfway between a sprinkler and the edge of it's spray pattern to water more accurately. Your lawn should get about an inch of water a week including rainfall. It's easier to do what you're doing and just give it a little extra water when it looks water stressed.","attachment":null,"posted":1715699462},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732019
If I had the space! I'm already planting them way overcrowded.
But I have someone to give away some of them to.","attachment":null,"posted":1715699509},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732066,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732022
I always try to give away a bunch of any clones I grow or otherwise aquire to a bunch of different people in case some of us lose all of our clones, which happens more often then you might expect because we all live in different zones. We can always get a new crop of the same clones from each other and each of us are slightly better at growing different crops so it helps to minimize losses, even though you know at least one person is going to completely fail. We share strawberries, raspberries, aloes, thymes, mints, ect.","attachment":null,"posted":1715711220},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732075,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732066
Oh yeah. I have this fake basil I got from family that they got from some foreign visitor. that I then propagated and gave back because theirs died.","attachment":null,"posted":1715714588},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732211,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732075
That's really cool. Is it tulsi basil?","attachment":null,"posted":1715751028},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I want to include greens in my diet
I figure I should have a portion of greens with every dinner
What are some vegetables which would enable me to do this from autumn to winter and spring to summer?","attachment":null,"posted":1715759563},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732225,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732224
Btw in my area I only get a few days of frost in winter","attachment":null,"posted":1715759624},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732226,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732211
It's some kind of cuban oregano/mexican mint.
>>2732224
Spinach, maybe? Salads and chard in season. I'm planting brussels for cold months too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715760141},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Brussels need around a month more indoors, but the rest is finally ready to planting out tomorrow.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715763971618595.jpg","filename":"42156347635.jpg"},"posted":1715763971},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Mid May
>Already almost a month without a single drop of rain and constant clear skies with scalding sun
It's so fucking over for my non irrigated field","attachment":null,"posted":1715771645},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732266,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732224
>>2732225
You should be able to find planting calenders for your area that will be more reliable then I could be. If you grow some cut-and-come-again greens in pots then you can bring them in when they get too hot or cold and grow them year round. Malabar spinach would do well in your area during the summer. Kale would probably grow all winter for you. You could try lettuce in the spring and autumn. I recommend getting a red lettuce cultivar like fire because they have antioxidants and better nutrition. You should also get some herbs and really flavorful greens for variety like chives or leeks, nasturtiums, mustard greens, ect. Look into what edible plants grow in your area too. Start by identifying your weeds before you pull them. You might find that some of them are delicious and basically take care of themselves if you let them drop seed. There should be an online resource you can find that lists edible plants in your area. It's good practice to taste new plants without swallowing to make sure you don't accidentally eat a toxic look-alike. I hope you enjoy planning your garden and finding your favorite greens. Have fun, anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715775078},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732269,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732254
Maybe you should look into aquaponics. You could build a pond to raise fish in and build your field on top of that. The simplest way to do it might be to construct floating planters or stands for your crops and just wade out to them. If you invested in a pump then you could have the pond next to your field and you'd have your own irrigation. If your area doesn't get enough rainfall to keep the pond from drying up seasonally then you'd just have to find a way to top off the pond.","attachment":null,"posted":1715775340},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732275,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732254
JUST fuck my field up.
Financial or infrastructure problem?","attachment":null,"posted":1715776434},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732278,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732236
Ended up planting today because the wind was trying to break them in half kek.
Don't mind though, night temp prediction is okay.
>>2732254
I can barely remember any rain all year here. Two in total last month maybe? But nothing other than that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715778680},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732300,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732254
>>2732278
There's been barely any rain for me this spring too. Sounds like it's going to be a dry year.","attachment":null,"posted":1715784616},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732313,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732269
>If your area doesn't get enough rainfall to keep the pond from drying up seasonally then you'd just have to find a way to top off the pond.
Easier said than done I think but I've never tried. Not the anon you responded to, but I had a lake completely dry up for the first time in my life last summer, and I cannot imagine how much my water bill would have been if I had tried to keep it wet, let alone full.","attachment":null,"posted":1715789298},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732319,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730822
my 20 yearold olive's trunk is 1/3 the size of that.
however, ive been told that olive trees are the kinds of trees that will continue to grow out and up as long as their roots arent restricted so maybe it being stuck ina pot made it a fat boy.","attachment":null,"posted":1715790580},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732313
Sure, but if you're raising fish and growing vegetables in or next to the pond then it's work the expense.","attachment":null,"posted":1715791670},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732331,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732330
I also wonder how far the groundwater would penetrate from the pond. Trees around the pond would absolutely have access to that water, but would annuals? I bet if you mixed enough organic matter into the field they would be able to get to the water.
Or am I completely misunderstanding and you actually pump the water out of the pond to irrigate the field, oops lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715792032},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732343,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Two questions related to sweet potatoes
Would 5gal (19L) buckets be too small?
And any suggestions for a purple meat variety? The one I was intending to get, Japanese All Purple, sold out on me before I made up my mind.","attachment":null,"posted":1715794269},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732319
Look again. The root ball's obviously been been disturbed. There's no way it's been sitting in a pot for decades. As mentioned earlier itt i I believe these come from massive nurseries in spain and italy where they them by the tens of thousands.","attachment":null,"posted":1715797460},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732380,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732331
>Or am I completely misunderstanding and you actually pump the water out of the pond to irrigate the field, oops lol
Basically this. Some plants would have access to the water, especially if you line the pond with clay instead of using synthetic pond liners, but for the most part you either grow your plants in the pond or you pump the water out to your field and design the drainage so it returns to the pond. I've been wanting to make one for a while now, but there's too many other things I have to get done first.","attachment":null,"posted":1715801985},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732384,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732343
I've never grown sweet potatoes, but a 5 gallon bucket is fine for regular potatoes. It's a bit on the smaller end so you may want to go bigger. If you don't live in an arid climate then consider growing them in a burlap sack. Put the seed potatoes and about 4" of soil in the bottom of the bag, roll the edges down, and add more soil and roll the edges up as the potatoes grow. The burlap sack will decompose so you can only use it for one season and you won't be able to move it, but you might find it worthwhile.","attachment":null,"posted":1715802290},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732395,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732269
>If your area doesn't get enough rainfall to keep the pond from drying up
Yeah, that's the problem, if I had a pond I would be losing that water to evaporation anyways.
>>2732275
Infrastructure, I would need to run a water pipe from the other end of my property straight through my orchard.
>>2732300
>it's going to be a dry year
Seems so, it's not even June and I already need to dig pretty deep to get to moisture and there is no rain in my weather forecast still.","attachment":null,"posted":1715803338},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732408,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732384
Doesn't seem like there are any ongoing hilling procedures for sweet potatoes, aside from planting the slip in a hill. In fact, I haven't been hilling the normal potatoes I have growing in the garden, but they're rather leafy already so maybe I'm too late.
I have quite a few buckets for unknown reasons, and the garden was downsized so I don't have room in the ground for a dozen more plants. But burlap sacks sound pretty good if I want to avoid plastic leeching.
>nearly every amazon entry mentions sack racing and has poorly shooped photos of the activity in their bags
I really hate amazon. Also maybe not too keen on one-season items that aren't plants themselves, but I also saw a bait thumbnail about growing sweet potatoes in a sack that was lying down. Might need to go watch that.
During my search for sweet potatoes, I also stumbled upon another type of normal potato I want to grow but definitely wouldn't have anywhere for those.","attachment":null,"posted":1715805496},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732410,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732395
>Yeah, that's the problem, if I had a pond I would be losing that water to evaporation anyways.
You would lose less water and you wouldn't need a pump if you grow your plants in the pond. Plus the pond is a large store of water so you could think of refilling your pond as irrigating your land all at once.","attachment":null,"posted":1715806078},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732429,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732380
>design the drainage so it returns to the pond
I'm quite interested. I hadn't thought of doing it like that. Wouldn't that mean that all the excess nutrients would drain back into the pond?","attachment":null,"posted":1715809476},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732429
Yeah, but that's kind of the point. You don't apply fertilizer, you just feed the fish and irrigate using the pond water. Their waste feeds the plants and when the water returns it's cleaner then it left. Incorporating biochar in your soil can help if your soil doesn't hold nutrients well. You lose less water and you don't have to worry about soil or pumping if you grow in floating planters on the water, but then you have to build or buy the planters.","attachment":null,"posted":1715810530},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732408
I don't remember what site I used, but I bought 100 sacks for $80 with free shipping","attachment":null,"posted":1715810621},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is bird shit good fertilizer? I am having a galaxy brain moment thinking if i should put the bird feeders in my garden next winter.","attachment":null,"posted":1715811306},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732440
Yeah, but don't expect them to leave enough to completely fertilize your garden. Every little bit helps, though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715811668},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732462,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm growing some marigolds but the indoor seedling leaves always turn purple at some point. It doesn't seem to be problem for growing itself, but it makes me think I'm doing something wrong. Like do they need more fertilizer? I've been giving them about I think half the recommended dosage (since that's what I read people do) which I my fertilizer already says to third it for indoor plants.","attachment":null,"posted":1715815470},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Corn is really taking off since I fertilized, but I did burn some of it a bit applying too much. Hoping it doesn't seriously hurt any of it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715816664568619.jpg","filename":"IMG_7236.jpg"},"posted":1715816664},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732469,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"such a pretty green","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715816836714973.jpg","filename":"IMG_7279.jpg"},"posted":1715816836},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732470,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Can I just avoid watering my potato plants until the plant sprouts above the dirt or is that stupid?","attachment":null,"posted":1715816946},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732471,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732470
all plants need water to make sugar and grow","attachment":null,"posted":1715816988},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732473,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732471
Yeah but don't potatoes have enough juice in them just to start it out? Genuine question. I just was wondering since I know it's easy to overwater seed potatoes and then they rot underground.","attachment":null,"posted":1715817067},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732475,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732473
Grab some soil and squeeze it.
Does any water flow out?
Too wet, don't add any water
Feels like sand without moisture?
Too dry, add water","attachment":null,"posted":1715817333},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Also my cantaloupe are actually doing good this year. Last year I couldn't get the few that actually sprouted to live very long.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715817687337104.jpg","filename":"IMG_7249.jpg"},"posted":1715817687},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715817841033048.jpg","filename":"IMG_7269.jpg"},"posted":1715817841},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732520,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732395
>need to run pipe
That or a tanker trailer, maybe just a tank if you're downhill.
But some guys just pump up to a scoop dam, which means they can run the pump 247 until the dam/ tank is full then just use the pipe for something else","attachment":null,"posted":1715828726},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732440
I collect Metric ton every year, it's valuable but unsuitable for direct application. Store it in a mound and mix it into your other compost","attachment":null,"posted":1715828793},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732522,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732470
Potato itself is full of water, and usually when you plant them the soil is wet and you don't have to water at all if the soil is wet","attachment":null,"posted":1715828929},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732615,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715858042421098.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240514_125142249.jpg"},"posted":1715858042},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732615
tater?","attachment":null,"posted":1715858104},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732624,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732616
Nah, this looks like something flowering.
Not dahlia but something like that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715862773},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732615
sunchoke?","attachment":null,"posted":1715865284},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732660,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732616
>>2732627
Dahlia","attachment":null,"posted":1715871491},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730029
>diy pumpkin seeds
I’ve read that they’re not really worth it (also, zuchini) since they can “rewild” and become inedible. I.e. quite bitter and toxic. If you still insist on eating them if they taste funny, you’ll run into trouble. There’s a case of some German boomers who still ate them all and died from it.
However, with heirloom seeds and knowing what you’re doing, it should be possible (after all, sneed doesn’t just produce his seeds from thin air), but I’d pic another crop to start doing your own seeds.
Like heirloom tomatoes. Buy the expensive pack once and have tomatoes forever.
Also, I got a lot of cheap (like 20 cents cheap) from Aldi.","attachment":null,"posted":1715875114},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732680,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730029
I planted my last year's longbean seeds. Doing well so far.","attachment":null,"posted":1715875275},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732684,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730434
You do have a point, but I’m pretty sure you don’t even know this point (more on that later) but in general, if we’re looking at the main issue, that is nitrate fucking up groundwater, it doesn’t matter where the nitrate comes from. No Matter if it’s from Haber-Bosch, Guano, compost or manure, if you’re applying too much nitrogen, you’re gonna fuck shit up.
Granted, the whole agricultural-industrial complex is a terrible thing and Haber-Bosch makes it much easier to overdose (though manure seems to overtake this right now), but you’re just a retard that knows nothing.
t. groundwater scientist that only uses compost in his garden
Ah, and on
>you have a point
Depending on the source of your industrial fertilizer, you might introduce a lot of contaminants to your soil. There’s some “funny” issues with fucking Uranium. How does that even happen (I mean, I know how it happens, phosphates can easily fit uranium into their crystal structure, but you know this and you test for that before selling stuff)","attachment":null,"posted":1715875909},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732695,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732684
That's assuming nitrate leeching is the main issue. Soil erosion is also a huge problem and it's made worse insufficient application of organic matter, usually as a result of overusing synthetic fertilizers.","attachment":null,"posted":1715878334},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732680
Kek I neglected to clean up my pole bean area until spring, there were tons of dried pods with beans so I was just screaming "chaos beans! chaos beans!" and throwing them everywhere, now I have a billion bean plants","attachment":null,"posted":1715878506},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732697,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732696
Oh yeah. Dried on the stem, collected more than I had in the bought packet.","attachment":null,"posted":1715878906},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What are (You) most excited for this year? I'm waiting for those brussel sprouts. I love how the plant looks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715879204},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732706,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730593
Yes, that's normal layering.","attachment":null,"posted":1715880419},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730846
Double fence, gun, dog","attachment":null,"posted":1715880715},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732696
This is the superior gardening method.","attachment":null,"posted":1715881036},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732713,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731494
Mulberry. If the leaves have any glossiness they're white mulberry, won't speculate more from the pics.","attachment":null,"posted":1715882165},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732699
Whatever this is","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715884211056380.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240516_182204163.jpg"},"posted":1715884211},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Something has always gone after my peas as soon as they come up, so I'm using the screen curtains from the old gazebo to make a cover to protect them.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715885228076849.jpg","filename":"bIMG_2661.jpg"},"posted":1715885228},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731578
Are you growing redcurrants in a container? All perennials are significantly less frost hardy in containers as it allows the roots to freeze when the ground would remain warmer. Currants are mindlessly easy in ground provided you don't have southeast US summer heat","attachment":null,"posted":1715885585},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732738,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731665
Afaik there are no white fruiting morus nigra, the high ploidy level suppresses significant phenotypic variance. You can confirm by looking at the nuclei, they are much larger in nigra than alba relative to cell size. The whole selling alba as nigra because they ripen to black (as every wild type mulb does) is egregiously common and pretty annoying. Red mulb hybridization is quite confusing, as mulbs already have such high variation in a single plant between leaves and lifestage, have alba/rubra hybrids all over where I am but most favor the alba parentage.","attachment":null,"posted":1715886024},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732741,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Are currants worth it if you already have black/rasp/strawberries and cherries?","attachment":null,"posted":1715886829},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732748,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732727
Tried one of the plan identify sites? Not anything I recognize. Celery? Lol.
>>2732734
Yes, but I did bring it indoors for the winter. It is seemingly sprouting a tiny bit of green, so I'll see later in the year.
>>2732741
They're one of my favorite fruits taste wise but they're also very cheap in season here so I mostly planted it because the sapling(?) was cheap in store.
You don't really get that much yearly per plant afaik.","attachment":null,"posted":1715888676},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732749,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732741
What do currants taste like?","attachment":null,"posted":1715888691},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732751,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732749
Google says
>Currants are sweet and sour, with a berry flavour.
I guess? It's hard to describe. The red ones are very nice, sour but the sugar balances it out. Wouldn't call them berry tasting myself, it's a unique taste.
White ones are more purely sugary sweet, used to be my favorite as a kid, not so much anymore. Black ones I remember being more that kind of winey cherry sickly sweetness, never liked them.","attachment":null,"posted":1715889172},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Shitbox complete. I want to get everything potted or re-potted and the irrigation done by this weekend. Fuckin nigger deer sampled my potatoes the day after I posted the frame >>2730977 but thankfully spared them.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715891414643334.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240516_161433335.jpg"},"posted":1715891414},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732764,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732699
My San Marzano tomatoes. Got 3 good transplants, the rest were frost damaged and I thought they'd restock them. They didn't. I stopped by walmart today, as a hail mary attempt and unbelievably they had them, all in pretty good shape.
I want more tomatoes than I know what to do with this year.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715891946090337.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240516_161518887.jpg"},"posted":1715891946},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732765,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732764
>I want more tomatoes than I know what to do with this year.
I feel the same way until I have 100 lbs of romas in my kitchen that need canned","attachment":null,"posted":1715892141},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732751
Thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1715892493},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732764
Oh true, true. I got three Costoluto Fiorentinos grown from seed in ground already. Wanted something cooler after very disappointing local dwarfs last year.
I heard San Marzanos are pretty hard to do, so good luck.
>>2732765
Gotta get those Wecks.
>>2732767
Get em if you have the space for multiple plants. Red if you ask me. Especially if you're an American and haven't had the pleasure of eating em fresh :p","attachment":null,"posted":1715892946},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732777,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732770
Nice. Yea I started some seeds for the first time this year but they only just got their first fork, you know, like this Y. So the transplants are a guarantee in case they never take off.
>>2732765
Basically what I'm aiming for","attachment":null,"posted":1715894410},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732779,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732777
My fluorescent lamp with space blanket setup has been working amazing so far because of how hot it gets, can recommend if you're not using one. Real cheap too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715894714},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732780,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732749
They taste very sharp and acidic when eaten straight off the vine. Haven't eaten the "white" ones but seeing as they are botanically red currants with a different shade of red I doubt there's much difference.","attachment":null,"posted":1715894752},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732779
>My fluorescent lamp with space blanket
Oh shit, that was actually the plan for next year","attachment":null,"posted":1715895024},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732784,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732782
Just make proper supports, I crushed most of my tomatoes by accident last year, lmao.","attachment":null,"posted":1715895124},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Brit bong here. First time growing shit so probably doing it wrong, everything I've grown indoors is fine and hardening off everything
Outside seeds just got drenched and didn't grow bar a couple. I'm mostly doing jalapeños and habaneros with a few beans and peas and tomatos. Issue is my ex tried growing stuff before but slugs and snails decimated everything so I've got some hanging baskets and raised planters and all the pots I've wrapped in wide copper tape. Any advise on how to keep the fuckers away?","attachment":null,"posted":1715937709},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732929
Slugs always hide under stones, pots, in tall vegetation and any other place that stays shaded and moist during sunny hours.
So what I do is remove tall grass (if there is any) and place stones and pots where I see slug damage, wait a day or two then come it with a knife and cut every single slug I can find in half, do this several times and there will be hardly any slugs left.
You can also use the beer trap method or any dedicated slug trap.","attachment":null,"posted":1715938418},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732941,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732929
Use trap crops like nasturtiums to attract pests away from your other crops. Using trap crops as a boarder is usually pretty effective, especially if there's a second boarder of pest repelling plants inside the trap crops, but you can stick a few randomly through your garden and it will still work. You should also look into intercropping and companion planting. Growing alliums or herbs next to the plants getting eaten will help to deter slugs.","attachment":null,"posted":1715949738},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2732969,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732929
Use slug pellets or remove them manually when your plants are still young. Im not convinced 'trap crops' work.","attachment":null,"posted":1715957564},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733000,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732969
https://extension.uga.edu/publications/detail.html?number=C1118&title=trap-cropping-for-small-market-vegetable-growers
https://ipm.missouri.edu/MEG/2017/3/Trap_cropping/
https://ipm.cahnr.uconn.edu/perimeter-trap-cropping-works/","attachment":null,"posted":1715964844},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733035,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My carrots are all up, but there appear to be an equal number of weeds around them. It'll be a few weeks until the carrots are big enough to weed. I planted my first batch of bush beans and covered the row with a hoop cover I made last year for peppers. Will see if I can give the beans a boost and get them producing by the end of June. Seeded some cucumbers behind the beans outside the chicken wire to keep them from spreading over the garden. Once they are big enough I've got a trellis I can put back there.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715971515696106.jpg","filename":"bIMG_2666.jpg"},"posted":1715971515},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Tomatoes I started on April 13th are doing well and should be a decent size by the time I need to plant them. I planted some of the swiss chard I started in front of the beans.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715971735977811.jpg","filename":"bIMG_2669.jpg"},"posted":1715971735},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733045,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Planted my zucchinis and watermelons today, feels good man","attachment":null,"posted":1715973692},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733051,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733035
What were you planting them carrots in? Straight ground or did you try to loosen it up?
>>2733036
I know thoes tomatoes smell nice.
>>2733045
What kind of watermelon?","attachment":null,"posted":1715975273},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733051
>What kind of watermelon?
Rosario (F1)
Early (70-80 days to maturity), sweet and resilient to illness and cool weather.
It was recommended to me by a friend because it grows well here in my relatively cold climate with short growing window.","attachment":null,"posted":1715975799},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733051
>What were you planting them carrots in? Straight ground or did you try to loosen it up?
I loosened the soil before planting, then I lined the rows I troughed with screened compost, and covered with more compost. I always get a lot of weeds early in the season. After I do the first good weeding of the season I'll put mulch between the rows. After that the carrots will be thick enough to keep most of the weeds out.
I planted way too early, the carrots took 4 weeks to germinate because the soil needed to warm up. If I had waited a few more weeks I would have disrupted the sprouting weeds as I mixing the soil and sowing the carrots.","attachment":null,"posted":1715975824},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733056
I'm pretty sure I tried growing that exact kind in a lil pot when I was a kid and never got beyond the first leaves, haha. Good luck.
>>2733057
Sounds comprehensive. I heard you can also grow them in sand with compost, right?
Fresh carrots from the ground were a childhood GOAT. Any specific wacky varieties you're growing this year?","attachment":null,"posted":1715976309},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732931
>>2732941
Right, I'll research a bit more and try this.
Have you any personal recommendation for repellant plants? I have small herb garden and heard chamomile repels them but found a dozen on it the other night and it's not a young plant. They seem to avoid the lavender though and I'm currently growing mint to fuck the fruit flies off in my house.
>>2732969
The only issue with pellets is that I have dogs who love to dig and eat anything. Or take a shit in my fruit bushes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715977701},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733035
Just cut the weeds down with some scissors until you can weed them. They'll be weaker when you finally get to it and they won't compete with your carrots as much.","attachment":null,"posted":1715979734},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733081,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733062
I've never personally had an issue with slugs, probably because I grow so many alliums, but I can link you to some resources. My friend who always has trouble with slugs swears by beer traps and hostas as trap crops. Combining multiple strategies will be much more effective than any single strategy. Good luck, anon.
https://www.gardenia.net/pest/slugs
https://sowrightseeds.com/blogs/planters-library/getting-rid-of-slugs-and-snails-in-garden
This one recommends diatomaceous earth, but because it's a non-renewable resource I don't recommend using it in your garden. The eggshells are a great suggestion though, and if you have chickens then the eggshells will encourage them to forage in those areas.
https://www.gardenia.net/guide/trap-cropping-to-control-pests
Gardenia is turning out to be a surprisingly good resource. They recommend chervil as a trap crops for slugs.
This one is a PDF so if you click the link it will start downloading. This is the most important part though
>Slugs are attracted to marigolds, calendula, zinnias, and comfrey leaves.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.hoormansoilhealth.com/pdf/Slug-Repellants-Alternative-Feeds-Baits.pdf
https://www.almanac.com/how-use-trap-crops-deter-pests
They recommend using parsley as a trap crop.","attachment":null,"posted":1715982280},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733060
>Fresh carrots from the ground were a childhood GOAT. Any specific wacky varieties you're growing this year?
I settled on Tenderlong Imperator quite a few years ago as they produced well even given that I'm too lazy to thin them. They'll get to 10 inches long burrowing all the way through my top soil and embedding their tip in clay which can make them a bastard to pull. I usually use a pitch fork and loosen a clump of them at a time.
I wanted to try pelleted carrots this year to help achieve a deliberate spacing which should yield larger carrots. The pelleted imperator carrot they had was Neptune, so I'm trying those for the first time.","attachment":null,"posted":1715982898},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733084,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733065
note that this is not true whatsoever for certain tree seedlings, who will just continue to grow their taproot bigger than bigger","attachment":null,"posted":1715982902},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733065
My carrot weeding technique is to use a 3 prong pole cultivator to loosen between the rows. Let the dirt dry for an hour or two then come back and rake around with the cultivator to pull out the weeds as they float to the top of the loose dry soil. I can do that from the edge of the row so I don't need to walk among the carrots. A week or so later I'll go back and pull the weeds from the rows themselves which are now larger and easy to spot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715983188},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733086,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733084
Nah, cut them down too. You will need to remove the taproot on any weeds that have them, but cutting them down will slow their growth and prevent them from dropping seed until you can get around to pulling the taproot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715983720},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733088,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733085
That's a great method for weeding a carrot bed. If you find the weeds shading out your carrots them consider chopping down the tallest.","attachment":null,"posted":1715983857},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733089,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733086
the previous owner of my house did this over and over every single year so I got tiny little baby treelings with massive foot long taproots","attachment":null,"posted":1715983971},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733090,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733083
>Tenderlong Imperator
Shit, long carrots. Are they as good as regulars?","attachment":null,"posted":1715984345},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733089
Sure, but you don't do it year after year unless you're keeping the roots alive for soil stabilization. Anon said his carrots are too young for him to start weeding so I gave him an option to buy more time.","attachment":null,"posted":1715984424},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733090
They taste pretty good, sweet and coreless. Even when crowded they'll get to a decent size. I used to grow Scarlet Nantes, but they suffered a lot when planted too close together. Once I started covering the rows with a drop cloth during germination 5 years ago, my germination rate went up to nearly 100% so crowding became much more of a problem.","attachment":null,"posted":1715986496},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733099,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Are there any of those plant identification and plant care apps that are actually good?","attachment":null,"posted":1715986676},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733103,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733099
>plant identification
Plantnet is good (and free)","attachment":null,"posted":1715987338},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733116,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Blue princess holly hedge is blooming, not sure if my other Holly's will be able to pollinate them though, planted last summer so not sure, hopefully I'll get berries.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715992757491932.webm","filename":"20240517_184709-VideoToMp43.webm"},"posted":1715992757},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733212,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733099
>>2733103
> Plantnet
It's not merely an app, but also a normal web app: https://identify.plantnet.org/the-plant-list/identify
I've used this one for a while, and it really gives correct results, even when provided with a rather shitty input.
Tested that "in the wild" and cross-checked online photos, and tested it once just for fun in a botanical garden.
It only failed me upon ornamental cultivars, especially when you try to identify by a flower.
But hey, those cultivars often look dissimilar to the species, so I can understand false guesses there.","attachment":null,"posted":1716020717},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733226,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"These oriental poppies are huge","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716032692986411.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240517_180053147.jpg"},"posted":1716032692},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733226
watermelone","attachment":null,"posted":1716033707},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733228
What?","attachment":null,"posted":1716034433},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733230
Ah I guess it's the name of the cultivar","attachment":null,"posted":1716034520},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733234,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733099
>>2733103
Oh that's really good! I always thought I would have to ask over internet and hope for someone to know if I wanted to identify a plant.
Thank you for the recommendation, anons!
>>2733116
It's cute how your dog always accompanies you. Very heartwarming.","attachment":null,"posted":1716035450},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733241,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733234
>It's cute how your dog always accompanies you. Very heartwarming.
Yeah she's great company, always tags along, got her the same week I got my house, fenced in the whole yard for her.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716039785643501.webm","filename":"20230605_171216-VideoToMp4 (3).webm"},"posted":1716039785},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733243,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733241
Cute, what race is she?","attachment":null,"posted":1716040017},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733243
She's a working bloodline German shepherd","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716040592673715.webm","filename":"20231216_125006-VideoToMp45.webm"},"posted":1716040592},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733246,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733245
cute wolf","attachment":null,"posted":1716040654},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Have you guys tried growing mushrooms?","attachment":null,"posted":1716041425},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733253,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733246
Ty","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716042796235423.webm","filename":"20240509_164537-VideoToMp46.webm"},"posted":1716042796},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733253
>the saliva flying out of the frisbee
kek","attachment":null,"posted":1716043618},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733257,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"someone make a new thread","attachment":null,"posted":1716045341},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733250
No but I really want to next year","attachment":null,"posted":1716048277},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733297,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733250
I have with mixed success. What do you want to know?","attachment":null,"posted":1716052694},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733250
I’ve had pretty good success using sterilized pet bedding in a 5 gallon bucket. All you really need is grain spawn and a shady place to let them grow. I also use a large drop mosquito net to keep the critters off them.","attachment":null,"posted":1716056155},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733354,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's kinda funny it's cheaper to get a metric tonne of compost from a wholesaler than it's to get a couple of bags at the store
I wish I had the space to use a tonne","attachment":null,"posted":1716067965},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733354
This.","attachment":null,"posted":1716069475},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733358,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Getting cold tonight so I was thinking about putting a heater in the greenhouse instead of bringing everything in. One thing I hadn't considered is that the lowest thermostat setting for many heaters is a lot warmer than I need. One of the radiant heaters in the basement has a minimum temperature of 12C. The other one just has a dial with numbered settings so I had to look up the manual. Turns out it also has an "antifreeze" setting that will keep the temp around 5C which is perfect.","attachment":null,"posted":1716071463},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733361,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733354
The difference in price is massive, I paid equivalent of 70$ for 3 cubic meters of good quality deciduous woodchips from a local landscaping guy, meanwhile 50 liter (0.05 cubic meter) of bagged wood chips sells for 6$ in nearby large gardening store.
>>2733358
Mine has 5 to 50 Celsius setting range, took me a while to find, very few can go below 10 Celsius in normal mode.","attachment":null,"posted":1716072711},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733401,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733354
Paying for compost? I get it for free from the local getting spot. I can fit a little over a cubic yard in my Tacoma each trip riding out on my bump stops, done well over 200 cubic yards","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716081172411959.webm","filename":"20240426_130736-VideoToMp4.webm"},"posted":1716081172},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733422,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733401
I can get free manure from a place about 50 miles away, but I can't get free compost. I make my own, but it's never enough.","attachment":null,"posted":1716084119},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733422
50 miles, that's rough, I get as much compost as I can take a few miles down the road, had to go extra thick where the septic system was replaced because there was no top soil.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716085241747996.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240518_221703.jpg"},"posted":1716085241},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733454,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733403
>>2733403
>>2733403
new bread","attachment":null,"posted":1716089087},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733538,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733428
It is, but it's cheaper to get groceries around there too, so two birds one stone. I'm glad you have access to such a great resource.","attachment":null,"posted":1716120674},{"board":"out","thread":2729875,"pid":2733612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733358
Well the thermostat in the heater sucks. I was up at 3:30 am and checked the wireless thermometer I have in the greenhouse. It read 2C so I went out to check the heater and it hadn't come on. So I turned it up until it kicked in. It probably wouldn't have hit zero, as a nearby weather station bottom out at 1.3 last night. I guess that's why quite a few people recommended AC plug temperature switches to control their heaters instead of relying on the dial controllers.","attachment":null,"posted":1716131563}]}
{"title":"Should I take the van life pill","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2729958,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’ve been bouncing on a bunch of ideas on how I could live my life as I am increasingly growing tired of living in my parents house (I’m currently working minimum wage at autozone delivering car parts to different stores while I am in school for welding.) but the idea of van life seems genuinely interesting to me. I’ve also heard of people working from their vans and I am willing to do just that. I am thinking of driving out west from the mid-Atlantic with a dirt bike/adv bike in the van. How do you even get started? What vans should I look into? What are the legal steps I need to take (if any)?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715223697973218.jpg","filename":"IMG_2925.jpg"},"posted":1715223697},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2729991,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729958
All the early adopters really drove up the price of vans across the board, so that sucks to be you. If you're willing to put in some elbow grease and have some fabrication/wood working ability you can make some really awesome concepts yourself in a van you buy for $5k ish. If you don't have that ability, be prepared to drop $15k and up for something that isn't going to break down immediately or hasn't been collecting mold in a field for god knows how long. So first step is money. How much do you have and what is your skill set?","attachment":null,"posted":1715229658},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2729996,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729991
I only have about $10K into my savings account. It really is not much I can spare. I *COULD* use my first gen CR-V as an alternative since the seats fold into a bed, and since my car is a 5MT, I can tow more than 1,500 pounds if I’m not beating the fuck out of my car. I have *some* carpentry experience, but I am proficient in MiG/stick welding with novice experience in tig welding Stainless, mild steel, and aluminum. I also have some automotive experience replacing chassis components, and very little engine building experience (rebuilt my locked up kx100) but some is better than never. I was thinking of a Chevy express van since I liked the space and the responsiveness of the throttle, and those fuckers are built like tanks. I can also build a trailer with my skillsets that doubles as a bike carrier and sleeping quarters.","attachment":null,"posted":1715230199},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2729997,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729958
No. Find a work exchange on a farm or ranch. Sleep in a real bed. Shit on your own toilet.","attachment":null,"posted":1715230283},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2730000,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729997
That actually sounds good, because large cities in Appalachia fucking suck.","attachment":null,"posted":1715230406},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2730006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729997
>>2729997
I'll just put a toilet in my van","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715230691658576.jpg","filename":"6d82bceaa1ba911cd5d0b3dfd28bffd2-762465567.jpg"},"posted":1715230691},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2730007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729997
imagine having to work with stinky, disgusting, shitting-and-pissing farm animals","attachment":null,"posted":1715230703},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2730008,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730000
checked","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715230785567003.jpg","filename":"Chimbo.jpg"},"posted":1715230785},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2730010,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730007
Literally our purpose on Earth.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715230918858386.jpg","filename":"ApiaryInTheWoods.jpg"},"posted":1715230918},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2730011,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730007
OMG Stacy your so right. These guys are like, so Ick","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715231017464202.png","filename":"city life 4 eva.png"},"posted":1715231017},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2730019,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730006
disgusting","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715232087049385.jpg","filename":"RearV.jpg"},"posted":1715232087},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2730020,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730007
Cool it with the racism bro, you're supposed to say African-American now.","attachment":null,"posted":1715232116},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2730022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730020
No they like being called Black now since they found out real Africans hate them lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715232657},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2730095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729991
that's why you buy a lightweight travel trailer. vanfags usually sell the shit they build anyways, and it's built with zero real knowledge on how to do it, just youtube retards regurgitating fudd engineering. they've ruined those vehicles with jerry rigging and shit that won't last or not grow mold. car prices in general are fucked, have been since covid.","attachment":null,"posted":1715259509},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2731404,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How about you just do it with whatever vehicle you already have? SUVs are great for it. If you have a truck throw on a camper shell. I did 2 years in a fucking sedan and once I dialed in the system it was quite cozy. You could car camp as well.
You'll get a feel for the lifestyle and see if its a good fit for you before dunping money into it. If you must work look for seasonal outdoor jobs in places close to public lands, preferably USFS and BLM. If you don't have public land to sleep on its pretty miserable and you are basically no different then the rest of the homeless. I got a higher paying, more conventional job and left the life mostly because it drastically reduces your dating options and winters/heat waves are hard. I still go back to my old spots sometimes fircthe nostalgia though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715567645},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2732250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729996
I'd start step by step.
the first Gen crv is a sick ride.
I used to have one and camped out of it a ton with a super simple bed platform in the back.
I feel like wether u need a van or not really depends on where you want to be and for how long at a time you want to do it.
I lived & wokred out of my S10 blazer together with my wife and dog for a bit more than a month last year and we didn't have a ton to complain about.
but we were in the woods of Finland with plenty of fresh water and mostly no people around.
if I were you I'd put my shit in the crv and go on a camping trip next weekend, see what bothers you and then improve on it.
maybe that will shed some light on what you need /don't need.
generally I think spending 3k building a trailer for the crv sounds better than jumping into 15k for a van without ever figuring out your needs.
also people talk about rtts as if they were memes but I love this thing.
my wife built it and it ever so slightly to short but I do very much love it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715771100875649.jpg","filename":"1000000906.jpg"},"posted":1715771100},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2732501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how to do that in Europe where old offroads are or will be banned bc muh pollution? I see commercial vans as the main way","attachment":null,"posted":1715822707},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2732562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729958
tips
>buy your van in autumn. when the weather gets cold all the backpackers and tourists are trying to offload their vehicles for cheap
>be short, if you're over 5ft10 dont expect to be able to stand up in most vans
>know how to fix your own vehicle and maintain it
>cut down your belongings to the absolute minimum
>keep some sort of self defense weapon in your van. no-one suspects the self defense cactus sitting on the shelf next to your door.
>be prepared for cops, security or home owners societies to move you on. try not to park in the same spot 2 nights in a row. locals notice regular vans.
>adjust your diet to accommodate living in a van. lots of stuff you can make without a fridge or a microwave is a must.
>you can get camp stove gas canisters for free from hostels and hotels. travelers leave them behind all the time and hotels cant dispose of them, so they have cupboards fucking full of 100s of them.
>gym membership for showering and shitting. have a backup chemical toilet (like $50 from home depot) in your van in case. for emergency showering a bag hanging from a tree works too.
>make sure you can keep your van dry. if you get a week of solid rain you'll fucking hate life if you cant keep the inside dry and warm. dont let condensation build up!!
>get in touch with friends in the areas where you'll be and ask if its OK for you to park in their driveway once in a while. this'll save your ass a lot on nights you cant find a park or when you're sick of getting harassed by cops/drunks
>dont be that guy brushing his teeth in his underpants in a suburban street at 6am.
>if you can customize it, put decals and decorate your van's exterior to disguise it as a work van. high vis vest and trade manual on the driver's seat, fake plumbing business logo and phone number on the side etc. people will think its a parked work vehicle a lot of the time and leave you alone, just as long as you dont make it obvious you're living in it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715842192},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2732566,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Van lifing is a fad, get a property you delusional idiot","attachment":null,"posted":1715842762},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2732816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">just fork out $600k for a property with no utilities, no road access and 6 hour's drive from the nearest job","attachment":null,"posted":1715903446},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729958
It costs money. More than you think.
>>2729996
Just use your CRV, it's better in essentially every way except living inside of. The CRV (especially first gens) are great cars, better than anything made today.
I say this with the exception of you finding your dream van for $1000 being sold by some grandma who doesn't know what she has.
Ride around your town and see if there are any sitting in a back alley, knock on some doors, ect.
Camper trailer + CRV would be good too
>>2729997
Live-in work is usually a better alternative yeah.
>>2730020
I laffed
>>2732250
Fucken saved. That's an awesome looking rig.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715996994481862.jpg","filename":"Spaceballs-eagle5.jpg"},"posted":1715996994},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733150,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729958
Van life "people" are insufferable retards, you'll fit right in","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716000455002550.jpg","filename":"IMG_3982.jpg"},"posted":1716000455},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733188,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733150
agreed. you're not a sexy instagram model doing the 'vanlife' with hundreds of thousands in the bank, you are homeless in a car, shitting in public toilets and going days or weeks without a bathing. it's not glamorous.","attachment":null,"posted":1716008517},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733150
She used plaster for the walls. One bad pothole or bump and her shit is going to crack and crumble everywhere. Worst is she put this garbage up for sale instead of using it herself.
>>2733188
This. I can see how someone who literally cannot afford a house or apartment could have a better life living out of a mini van than on the street, but it's not going to be as luxurious/comfortable as the kids who have permission to spend Daddy's money freely on a van conversion that has a full kitchen and bathroom. You also can't travel for site seeing the way those people can because you need to factor in gas money and repairs. OP isn't rich, he's going to spend most of his nights parked at his parents' house anyway.","attachment":null,"posted":1716046795},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733315,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729958
>How do you even get started?
buy a cheap cargo van
>What vans should I look into?
ford/chevy 2500/3500 cargo vans
>What are the legal steps I need to take (if any)?
none. just get insurance
I bought my van for $5500. I spent about $1500 on the electrical system (400w of solar, 2000w inverter, charge controller, 4x 100ah lifep04 batteries)
I built a cheap bed from 2x4 and put down some vinyl sheeting for the floor.
So all-in-all, I spent about $7k on everything. I've been all over the country, basically just chasing good weather. I work remotely, but most people work seasonal jobs which is a great way to meet people.
By living out of the van I was able to save enough money to buy some land, and most recently bought a 12x32 cabin. Now I got 5 acres and a cabin in SE AZ that I live at part-time when im not traveling.
Its the best feeling in the world having your own place. Its comforting to know that if everything falls apart on me, at-least I have a home and some land I can go back to.
Its been an adventure for sure. I love being on the move, meeting new people and just exploring. I'll never go back to living in an apartment.
My advise is, do it. Take a risk, hit the road and see where life takes you.","attachment":null,"posted":1716057422},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733316,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733315
forgot pic","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716057504376684.jpg","filename":"muh van.jpg"},"posted":1716057504},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733316
pic of my cabin
not paying rent is the only way I was able to save enough to buy it
heres the breakdown:
5 acres cost me $4500
12x32 cabin cost me $16k","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716057761573531.jpg","filename":"muh cabin.jpg"},"posted":1716057761},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733318
Wtf can you do on this land? Can you produce any food or hunt anything? If not it's there large public land nearby you can hunt on? If all you can do is live on it and there is no source of water that's a shit deal.","attachment":null,"posted":1716075090},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733316
>>2733318
Hey that's pretty nice.
Did the cabin come insulated and stuff for $16k?
What's the plumbing situation?
>>2733378
He can relax and pretend to be that one guy from Kill Bill","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716082965774187.jpg","filename":"MV5BZWM0NmFmZDItMTAxOS00Nzc4LTkxNmMtMDAzNzMzMzhjMjEyXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDAxOTExNTM@._V1_.jpg"},"posted":1716082965},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733441,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733378
>Can you produce any food or hunt anything?
I'm surrounded by orchards, crop circles and vineyards. But you do need water of course, you need a well to farm. We got deer, javalina, lots of quail and turkey around here. I see quail literally every morning at my bird feeder. There's plenty of hunting near by. I saw three or four deer earlier today.
I don't have any intention of growing crops or being self sufficient or anything. This is just my home base when I'm not traveling or whatever. I want to have off grid properties in various states and just bounce around depending on the season.
I don't have a well. Instead I have a 2650 gallon water tank. I pay $200 to have someone come out and fill it. Lasts me about 6-8 months.
>>2733414
>Did the cabin come insulated and stuff for $16k?
It came with R19 insulation under the floor. I had it custom built so its about $3k more than it would of been without all the custom shit I requested. Here are the upgrades I requested: 2x6 studs instead of 2x4, metal roof, six windows, radiant barrier, tyvek house wrap and R19 insulation under the floor.
I'm really glad I had them build it with 2x6. The whole thing just feels sturdy as fuck with 2x6 spaced 16 inches on center. Gives me more room for insulation too.
>What's the plumbing situation?
I haven't plumbed it yet or ran electricity. Those are projects for another day. I have an outhouse and I run an extension cord into the cabin from my van. Thats how I power my starlink, lights, laptop and air conditioner.
Its not the ideal environment by any means, but it has its pros. Particularly the abundance of solar and low population. My nearest neighbor is about 3/4 of a mile away. I live in an unincorporated community of about 200 people total. All my neighbors live out here in unpermitted cabins or trailers. None of us have utilities or addresses. No HOA, no city goverment fags, no bullshit codes to jump through. Its nice. $82 a year in property taxes is all.","attachment":null,"posted":1716087917},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729958
Legal steps:
>get a permanent physical mailing address
There’s a place in Texas that has always done this, you just have to sign a letter saying that you promise to “uphold the Texas way of life” and mail it in, then you become a citizen of Texas and can pay monthly for a “real” address (that doesn’t actually exist) so that you are technically legal and can get a Texas Driver’s License (and register to vote and never pay any state income taxes)…although you could just use your parents house too, you just need an address
>establish an LLC
Then rent a room in the name of the LLC to stay at a hotel in South Dakota for 1 night…you are now legally entitled to do business in SD, including making tax free capital improvements on your business, such as the purchase of a van or RV to live in and run your business out of…you can buy the car in any state just have the dealer do the paperwork for SD so that it remains tax free
I guess those arent really specific to van life, more so for telling the govt to fuck off and find some other source of funding, but they do still apply to van life and working from your van","attachment":null,"posted":1716088686},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733441
Damn, nice job.
>I'm really glad I had them build it with 2x6.
Yeah I've heard from some builders that if they were to build their own house, that's how they'd do it too. Especially up north where they value the extra insulation space or anywhere with strong winds.
>outhouse
Outhouse is superior to an inside shitter anyways.
Really nice job.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716089694232191.jpg","filename":"1684970003234607.jpg"},"posted":1716089694},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733459
What the fuck is that picture?","attachment":null,"posted":1716092427},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733488,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733150
>rich white instagram sluts who've never had a real job are insufferable
ftfy
>>2733315
>What vans should I look into?
>ford/chevy 2500/3500 cargo vans
personally i recommend a Mitsubishi Dicklicker or just getting a Toyota Landcruiser with a canopy on the back. Fords are kind of shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1716093915},{"board":"out","thread":2729958,"pid":2733492,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733479
I dunno, some random internet art I thought was neat.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716094674804261.jpg","filename":"scale_1200.jpg"},"posted":1716094674}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729753,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Herb ID please?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715191428434211.jpg","filename":"IMG_0175.jpg"},"posted":1715191428},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729755,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Do you see any small, black berries? Or some small green berries?","attachment":null,"posted":1715191485},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729757,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729753
Definitely some kind of mint. Probably oregano from the look of it. You should be able to tell if it is from the smell.
Almost all mints will have that square stem and opposite sets of perpendicular facing leaves like that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715191720},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729757
I agree with this anon
>>2729753
Which is concerning because that's an incredibly common plant that can be positively identified by simply picking a leaf and smelling it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715192082},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729766,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729757
Smell is unronically one of the most underutilized ways of IDing a plant.
The biggest mistake people make though is relying on a key to ID plants. You use a key to ID it the first time- but once you see a plant enough times you really do just get a feel for it. There are some that are just hard to tell the difference between though.. oregano is NOT one of them kek. The mint, pea, nightshade, parsley, and geranium families usually jump-out at you from first glance.
Anyways, ID'ing mature plants is alot easier than ID'ing very young sprouts seedling etc. That's where the "feel" thing really matters.","attachment":null,"posted":1715192628},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729760
I thought so too but someone said otherwise.","attachment":null,"posted":1715192645},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729766
Sorry meant for >>2729760","attachment":null,"posted":1715192690},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729768
It is definitely a mint. Probably oregano but some other mints can also look like that. That's where the smell matters.
Alot of mints can have an oregano-esque smell though. Some monarda's like Dotted Horse Mint can smell like oregano/basil but looks nothing like that. Basil looks alot like oregano to me.","attachment":null,"posted":1715192900},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729802,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729753
Google says oregano, but to me it looks like a spicy globe basil I used to have.","attachment":null,"posted":1715197693},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729753
That's definitely mint family. But it doesn't look like spearmint or peppermint. Maybe sweet mint? Looks kinda fuzzy like marjoram, but I'm guessing it's bigger than that? At least it looks like it. Doesn't smell sagey right?","attachment":null,"posted":1715198734},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729812,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729753
Honestly it looks like basil, but not shiny.","attachment":null,"posted":1715198795},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729854,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729753
thai basil or oregano","attachment":null,"posted":1715205009},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729970,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729753
It's pot. try smoking some.","attachment":null,"posted":1715225067},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729983,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729970
I've wondered, have we tried to smoke everything yet? Maybe there is still some undiscovered smokable plant?","attachment":null,"posted":1715227549},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2729995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729983
Since archaeologists and paleontologists seem to think most mind altering plants, including alcohol, mushrooms, ect, have been mostly accidental discoveries, maybe. On the other hand, I'm sure just about every plant known to man has been eaten at some point or another, probably due to tragedy/desperation or plain curiosity. Typically if it effects you when you eat it, you'll get similar or even more potent results from smoking it.
There's also tons of medicinal plants that you can smoke for their effects that simply aren't commonly known about.
If I was going to bet on it, I'd bet you there's some cool undiscovered drugs in the ocean no one has thought about hauling out, drying, and lighting it on fire to get high.","attachment":null,"posted":1715230131},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2730033,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729753
weed","attachment":null,"posted":1715238411},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2730042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729983
Haven't been through high school eh? Gotta be over 18 to post on 4chan. We smoked everything we though might get us high in HS. If it could be smoked, it was. Unless the plant itself hasn't been discovered yet, someone's tried smoking it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715241365},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2730182,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730042
I'm an oldfag, smartass.","attachment":null,"posted":1715276895},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2730186,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729753
Definitely minty. Maybe greek oregano since they have smaller more mintlike leaves","attachment":null,"posted":1715277427},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2731014,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729753
You should be able to identify this from the smell alone.
I'm guessing you grew up in a city in America and struggle to tell the difference between a sheep and a goat.","attachment":null,"posted":1715470738},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2732716,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"use plantnet phag","attachment":null,"posted":1715882240},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2732722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729766
Based response, though I have never seen oregano with such large leaves.
It's heuristics and that's difficult to convey to people- when you're IDing a new species it's important to base it on solid and consciously reasoned evidence, but there is also lots of value in unconscious pattern recognition, and when I have seen pros in any sort of ID that is 99% how they operate (though they can explain their reasoning when asked).","attachment":null,"posted":1715883624},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2732737,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729757
>Definitely some kind of mint
That was my first thought.","attachment":null,"posted":1715885814},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2732768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729753
When I was younger I was really into plants. State champion FFA on nursery landscape, state champion on Plant ID FFA, state champion on timber stand improvement etc. Went to undergrad and didn't pursue something related to plants (a decision I regret every day). But I have a good job now- it's just not what I love.
Anyways, I moved back home about 10 years ago, blessed with property and woods.. it's a very rural place so I got back into plants. Stopped getting cable and all that, not many other people living around so I just spend all my time in the woods.
Spending that time just out there seeing the plants every day season after season year after year made me understand them in a way no book or key ever did. If you dont have a fascination with them they will never stick. Almost a form of autism. Like you see people's face in a crowd and you'd never recognize them but if you have some interest in them it might stick and be familiar. Opposite/alternate is always useful but when it really comes to ID'ing young or out of season plants there is no replacement for just "knowing" them. Each one has certain qualities aside from obvious characteristics... they like to grow in certain places, slight variations in color, do different things at different times of year etc. and I never made a list to ID these plants it's like recognizing a person's face. Every day for like a decade if I'd go in the woods and come across something I didn't know I'd take pics and go home and figure it out and after about the five year point I sort of got to where I can get 90% at first blush, and can put the other 10% in the right family for the most part. Every now and then I get stumped though and this area is sort of hard mode I mean there are a ton of species here.
But tbqh I miss the days of going in the woods and every day it was one I didn't know.. like sort of an adventure to figure them all out. Makes me a bit sad now that it's no longer that way. Sorry for TLDR","attachment":null,"posted":1715892555},{"board":"out","thread":2729753,"pid":2732769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732768
Sorry meant for >>2732722","attachment":null,"posted":1715892705}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2729936,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Okay, I'm done coping. Even ignorning muh mountains, the west still has an overall better aesthetic than the east.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715218625920315.jpg","filename":"Los-Angeles-County-California.jpg"},"posted":1715218625},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2729942,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"We don't think so. The western US is just a giant stretch of brown dirt. We can always visit a local construction project to see the same views and then go innawoods near us to enjoy the lush greenery and bright colors of our woodlands, wetlands, water bodies and meadows. Sux to be you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715221269},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2729944,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729942
>enjoy the lush greenery and bright colors of our woodlands, wetlands, water bodies and meadows
Where? Every "forest" here looks like pic related because normalfags are too scared of fire or cutting down a few trees.
The thing with the west is that the climate and soil type naturally favors the creation of woodland and savanna. In the east it has to be constantly managed because it will always try to turn into a shitty overgrown forest.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715221741538973.jpg","filename":"1378042.jpg"},"posted":1715221741},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2729947,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729944
>naturally favors the creation of woodland
meant to type meadows here","attachment":null,"posted":1715222303},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2730715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729942
>The western US is just a giant stretch of brown dirt.
That is called a rain shadow. And it exists east of the mountains (Cascades and Sierra) that go along the western coast.
West of their rain shadow is very wet and very green, at least north of the Sacramento valley.","attachment":null,"posted":1715393070},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2730720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729936
I prefer my back yard.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715393378421773.jpg","filename":"20230818_161316.jpg"},"posted":1715393378},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2730729,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729936
the Atlantic is mean and I prefer it that way
https://youtu.be/IDqN6uD6pOs?si=WV9IaEeO8GG4G7Ts","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715393804367890.jpg","filename":"crashing-the-nubble-scott-thorp.jpg"},"posted":1715393804},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2730882,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Any Washingtonfags here? I’ve been thinking of moving from NW part of the state (skagit valley) to east of the mountains, maybe Okanogan county or even all the way to Pend oreille.","attachment":null,"posted":1715443418},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2730890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I like em both a lot. the main thing that the East wins is with the dense forests, damn near jungles. I miss swinging on vines and yelling like Tarzan, when I was a kid. I don't miss the poison ivy and the ticks/leeches/mosquitoes","attachment":null,"posted":1715444691},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2732995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729936
>then go innawoods near us to enjoy the lush greenery and bright colors of our woodlands, wetlands, water bodies and meadows.
>the entire West is a desert
that guy lol","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715963895853090.png","filename":"westernforest.png"},"posted":1715963895},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2732997,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729936
> I'm done coping.
You're not even from the east. You're just the westfag that constantly makes these bait threads. Nobody cares about your California-transplant-in-Colorado-tourist-suburb-ass Jose. Stop shitting up the board.","attachment":null,"posted":1715964075},{"board":"out","thread":2729936,"pid":2733022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732997
>said the entire west is desert and climate change is caused by beavers and jewish loggers guy and only my acre of decidious trees matters/
lol","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715969194983462.png","filename":"BS.png"},"posted":1715969194}]}
{"title":"Best Food for Living in Car / Innawoods","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730045,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Lost my job and planning on living out of my car and camping places for at least 6-12 months since I haven't done that in many years now. I haven't really been homeless before but it's my next option currently so my funds are going to be kinda limited.
What are going to be the best and least expensive ways to sustain myself with food? I've never lived like this before so I'm wondering what all of the "oh shit"'s might be before I encounter them. In what areas might it be realistic to live off of the land, simply from fishing rivers or foraging? I don't plan on attempting full "survival" mode but I'd like to be out there as long as I can on as little as I can. Any good things to know or experiences are appreciated.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715242552456777.jpg","filename":"wild berries.jpg"},"posted":1715242552},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730045
well, seeing as you're asking for advice on fishing & foraging, without saying where your area / climate, i'm going to assume you live in the shanty towns of brazil
so first, i'd recommend buying a gun from your local drug dealer, you'll have to contest with a lot of gangs as you fish the corpses out of the drainage slumps, as fish like to gather around the corpses, so you'll have a lot of luck finding them that way
for plants, people like to grow a lot of cassava in their gardens, so just rummage around them, but try not to get caught, or they'll cut off your hands
good luck anon, its a tough world out there","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715245405244669.jpg","filename":"45353070.jpg"},"posted":1715245405},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730084,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I think a person would have a chance in a lightly populated area of the southeastern USA fishing around the freshwater rivers and intercoastal waterway.
A small fishing boat and using campsites that are only assessable by small boat would be good. The only thing is insects would drive you crazy. You would have to live under a bug net for many months of the year.
I think I could make a go of it in the low country area around the SC / Georgia border.","attachment":null,"posted":1715258560},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730141,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">this thread again
I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you're going to suffer greatly no matter what and there's no way around it. The most tragic part is that this is the reality for millions of people living in otherwise prosperous wealthy developed countries all around the world (especially in the US). The people of this world have been so brutally subjugated and humiliated that they are no longer even capable of resisting their oppressors in any meaningful way whatsoever, and on top of that, they aren't even worthy of empathy. Just the fact that you're posting this here instead of just going back and living with a relative speaks volumes.
The best advice you might get at this point would be to sell everything you own and join one of those christian cults who lives in the woods, but you won't do it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715269631},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730147,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730045
>What are going to be the best and least expensive ways to sustain myself with food?
Rice and beans, supplemented by whatever you can catch or hunt. Always keep a budget to buy cheap fruit, and take note of where you can find blackberries. Onions and garlic are cheap and really liven up a meal. Treat yourself to some spices, salt and pepper if you can. It'll still be a pretty miserable experience, living mostly off rice and beans, but it'll make it ever so slightly better.
>In what areas might it be realistic to live off of the land, simply from fishing rivers or foraging?
None. Sorry. You're going to get nutritional deficiencies one way or another if you go for self-sufficiency.","attachment":null,"posted":1715270526},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730141
haha bum blasted","attachment":null,"posted":1715271582},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730157,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730045
I would "forage" by applying for SNAP (food stamps) and finding out where the local soup kitchens are. Between those 2 you can eat pretty well as long as you're not supporting someone else.","attachment":null,"posted":1715272814},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730174,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730045
>>2730157
Some other stuff while I'm thinking of it (I speak from personal experience):
- Sleeping in your car really only works during the summer; it's basically a heat sink (steel & aluminum clad in plastic). During all other seasons, they wick off your heat unless you've got the heater going (burns fuel, bad for someone w/o cash) and trap condensation (big red flag for cops). Plus unless you've got an SUV they're really not comfortable to sleep in. Camping (legal or stealth) is better.
- "Career" homeless (IE those who actively mooch the system instead of seeking work) are to be avoided. There are always exceptions, but on the whole they're the biggest drama queens on the planet (like hanging out with children). They will suck you into their petty bullshit. Do not let them.
- WASH YOUR ASS! If you stink, you scream the word "bum" to everyone downwind. If you keep yourself clean, you blend. Blending is good. Homeless shelters are an option, but are also filled with other homeless people (see above). Didn't have the option myself, but gym/ymca memberships sound like a reasonable idea. Same thing goes for clothes, obviously.
- A mailing address is a must (though it might not seem obvious; if you happen to gain employment, you need one to actually get paid). Shelters will generally let you use theirs; churches might be another option.
- Above all else; don't give up! Take things one day at a time. You WILL get through it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715275758},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730199,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"We don't know where OP is, and so can only offer general advice.
Good luck, sir.","attachment":null,"posted":1715280260},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730045
keep eating those poke berries and all of your troubles will be behind you anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715288043},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730306,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Buy proper mason jars like Ball or similar, keep oats, nuts, dried fruit, and jerky to store in them. Roaches and other insects do find their way into vehicles if you don't store food properly and plastic clip tubs aren't sealed well enough to keep smells sealed.
If you can afford it, and have a vehicle with the room for it, car fridges are great for storing perishables, cheese, meats, milk, etc. Worth keeping them as full as you can and buying things frozen to keep energy use down, but ideally you'll be able to get a separate battery to run the fridge from so you don't wake up without a starter, it is possible to set voltage limits but they're not always reliable.
Shop at food banks, and keep an eye out for Sihk and Hare Krishna temples for free meals.
Hunting and foraging will be area dependent so that's something you'll have to figure out, but talking to locals who enjoy those hobbies would be a good idea.","attachment":null,"posted":1715301477},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730045
>Living in Car / Innawoods
You mean homeless?","attachment":null,"posted":1715302086},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730045
Just kill yourself, fucking loser.","attachment":null,"posted":1715303249},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730045
build an alcohol stove (designs on internet, costs nothing) it's safer in enclosed spaces than anything else
heat up stuff in cans (open 1/4 way on both sides so it doesn't explode)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715310904496251.jpg","filename":"1000004888.jpg"},"posted":1715310904},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730461,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730045
Pretty sure those are elderberries. Very nice.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715348803538459.jpg","filename":"Elderberries.jpg"},"posted":1715348803},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730310","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715350445087352.png","filename":"x3tgv.png"},"posted":1715350445},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730684,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730230
Those are elderberries, retard. Hope you become homeless too","attachment":null,"posted":1715385987},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730684
raw elderberries will kill you as quickly as pokeberries... But keep trying. Enjoy your homelessness.","attachment":null,"posted":1715386732},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2730751,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">he doesn’t know ripe elderberries are safe to eat","attachment":null,"posted":1715400975},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2732032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715701612960289.png","filename":"gfgfhgfh.png"},"posted":1715701612},{"board":"out","thread":2730045,"pid":2733031,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730147
A man can live off potatoes and onions for a long time. Supplement with meat and bell peppers (vit c) and there ya go.","attachment":null,"posted":1715970976}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2730189,"pid":2730189,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">light hiking through the forest
>notice that tree roots conveniently form little steps wherever the path goes downhill or uphill
Is this intelligent design? Are trees trying to accomodate us? Do they like being stepped on?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715277830758624.jpg","filename":"1590105003237.jpg"},"posted":1715277830},{"board":"out","thread":2730189,"pid":2730191,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730189
It's soil erosion, anon. That's why plants are so important in preventing it, they keep the soil in place using their roots. Otherwise the rain washes it away.","attachment":null,"posted":1715278158},{"board":"out","thread":2730189,"pid":2730817,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730191
anon discovers erosion","attachment":null,"posted":1715423366},{"board":"out","thread":2730189,"pid":2730819,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730189
>>2730191
Also keep in mind that trails are more “designed” than you may believe. Sometimes even entire features are uprooted and replanted according to the plans when building a trail","attachment":null,"posted":1715425345}]}
{"title":"ScaT Identification","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2730256,"pid":2730256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hello, I’d like help identifying this scat. It was bigger than coyote poop. I think it’s bear poop. I’m not sure what else it could be because of how big it was. About the size of a big dogs poop. I’m in the piedmont region on the east coast of the US. Thanks!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715293689710133.jpg","filename":"IMG_1325.jpg"},"posted":1715293689},{"board":"out","thread":2730256,"pid":2730271,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"thats poop","attachment":null,"posted":1715295518},{"board":"out","thread":2730256,"pid":2731025,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730256
Raccoon","attachment":null,"posted":1715472372},{"board":"out","thread":2730256,"pid":2731113,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm a bear hunting guide on the east coast. It does not look like black bear scat but I would have to taste it to be sure.","attachment":null,"posted":1715510382},{"board":"out","thread":2730256,"pid":2731119,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730256
there are other things between dog size and bear size. like bobcats","attachment":null,"posted":1715514824},{"board":"out","thread":2730256,"pid":2731280,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730256
That's my poop. I made it","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715545938445300.jpg","filename":"actor-sloth-the-goonies-225315_large.jpg"},"posted":1715545938}]}
{"title":"BUILD YOUR OWN CAVE","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2730242,"pid":2730242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcurLKiDSI8","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715290359015000.jpg","filename":"snapshot.jpg"},"posted":1715290359},{"board":"out","thread":2730242,"pid":2730292,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"honestly might be a good idea if you area has soft rock like limestone, around here it's all fuck hard granite or something so it would be much harder","attachment":null,"posted":1715298590},{"board":"out","thread":2730242,"pid":2730367,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have a little rockhouse on my property that I have thought about excavating a little with a pickaxe and making a little hidey hole or place to store shit. The rock is super punky sandstone and I'd be afraid it would just collapse on me if I started to excavate it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715311453},{"board":"out","thread":2730242,"pid":2730418,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730242
too threatening :,","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715330040782095.jpg","filename":"1715290359015000.jpg"},"posted":1715330040},{"board":"out","thread":2730242,"pid":2731111,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730242
Grafter","attachment":null,"posted":1715505471}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2730336,"pid":2730336,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"is european buckthron further evidence that europeans ruin everything they touch?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715305006824827.png","filename":"Invasive_Woody_Species_Before_and_After.png"},"posted":1715305006},{"board":"out","thread":2730336,"pid":2732388,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Europeans love walkability. Right is so much better. Left = car culture
right = public transit","attachment":null,"posted":1715802472},{"board":"out","thread":2730336,"pid":2732404,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732388
>likening public transit users to invasive species
I like you.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715805074578481.jpg","filename":"paris_metro.jpg"},"posted":1715805074},{"board":"out","thread":2730336,"pid":2732682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730336
North America looks nothing like when the euro-trash started coming here en-masse in the 1700s.
The entire west coast of the US should have 600-1000 year old trees and they not only cut all of them down, they refuse to ever let most of them grow back.
The entire midwest used to be loosely packed beaver dams and wetlands and during the western expansion that was all leveled for farms and hundreds of millions of beavers were turned into hats.","attachment":null,"posted":1715875678}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2730976,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"*mogs your grass lawn*","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715461465460682.jpg","filename":"clover-lawn-getty-1022-2000-2ea431be24f848cbb0c83c2a9c3683d0.jpg"},"posted":1715461465},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2730990,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"you vill mow ze lawn
you vill plant ze grass
you vill discard the clipping in a garbage bag
and you vill be happy","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715466527815176.jpg","filename":"hoa.jpg"},"posted":1715466527},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2731018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730976
as soon as the weather clears up a bit, i'm tilling up the front yard, burying the irrigation, and planting a grass/clover mix.
I fuckin hate mowing. But I want my house to look decent too.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715470977704594.jpg","filename":"i-Bc6PMJh-L.jpg"},"posted":1715470977},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2731020,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730976
Too high maintenance","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715471694611970.jpg","filename":"1715471687451242902507000396370.jpg"},"posted":1715471694},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2731199,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731020
It's less maintenance","attachment":null,"posted":1715532013},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2731202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730976
>grass + clover masterrace
Compost your clippings.","attachment":null,"posted":1715532152},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2731204,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731202
Pretty much this.I leave them on the lawn,but I make a second pass to disperse any clumps.Also,mulch your leaves into the lawn in the fall.My yard was a sparse mess of weeds and sand when I first purchased my home,but it's slowly beginning to resemble a lawn without the use of herbicides or fertilizers.","attachment":null,"posted":1715532593},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2731207,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731204
>My yard was a sparse mess of weeds and sand when I first purchased my home,but it's slowly beginning to resemble a lawn without the use of herbicides or fertilizers.
Same. My lawn was completely paved over when I started out. Tore it out only to find a layer of sand on top of a layer of clay. I took a pitchfork to it to mix it up, then added a layer of acceptable topsoil.
Three years down the line now, I have a lawn lined with little (grafted) pear and apple trees and a small wildflower patch. Couldn't be happier.","attachment":null,"posted":1715532913},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2731270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730976
I planted that shit! Fuck grass! grass is a soil eater and water hog, if you try keeping ti green year round. I've never understood the desire for a monoculture lawn. I actively try and add clovers, vetches and the like to my lawn. No fertilizers, less water, much softer to walk on!","attachment":null,"posted":1715543327},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2731303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731270
This","attachment":null,"posted":1715551488},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2731907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730976
You know what would be cool.
An entire lawn of creeping thyme.
Imagine how good it would smell when the wind blows.","attachment":null,"posted":1715657663},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2732014,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731907
Herb lawns in general sound really cool. If I were in a warmer climate I'd try to make lawns out of all kinds of things. Do you think a basil lawn could reseed itself reliably if you stopped mowing when flowers appeared?","attachment":null,"posted":1715698476},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733629,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731907
Trve","attachment":null,"posted":1716135164},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731907
Creeping thyme could maybe be OK. Perennial Peanut could maybe work. But both of those are non native same way most landscaping grass is.
Creeping Phlox is good for some areas here and there, but look grass lawns are ubiquitous for a reason. A well kept grass lawn is ideal, fairly low maintenance, beautiful when kept correctly, good for high traffic, uniform, etc. It's the best option.
I get people want to be different and all but the best thing you can do is keep a nice well kept grass lawn and then go in with native specimen hardwoods and then layer some flowering understory trees in below them. Then do beds along borders and fences and fill them with native perennials and shrubs as you please. If you have space beyond the yard harrow it up and spread a native wildflower/grasses mix for your region.
I keep a manicured lawn around the house with native hardwoods and a few natibe lines here and there. Native understory shrubs and trees underneath and alomg fencerows I make rectangular English style hedge squares from dwarf yaupon hollies and then inside of the rectangles I make raised beds with native perennials. Crossvine on the fences.
Beyond the yard I'll pick a few little paddocks and pastures here and and let the red sorrel and toadflax come in on its own in early spring- it's beautiful. But once It plays out by about mid april- I mow it and start fighting the Bahia Grass all summer with the rotary mower. I'm a big fan of Southern Sugar Maple as an undersea native landscaping tree (if you are in the South east).
Anyways- you MUST mow and spray if you have sizeable areas you are working with, things will simply get out of hand if you don't. knowing when and how to time it and having some restraint is the key.","attachment":null,"posted":1716150998},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733731
Underused* native landscaping tree.","attachment":null,"posted":1716151181},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733762,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731907
Might do this with lemon balm","attachment":null,"posted":1716154653},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"very tempted to go about, transplanting kudzu into suburbia.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716155241365138.jpg","filename":"1000030291.jpg"},"posted":1716155241},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733731
lunatic boomers insistent on growing worthless tareshit","attachment":null,"posted":1716155317},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733860,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733762
That would be awesome. If lemon balm doesn't work for you then you could try lemon catnip. It has a very strong lemon smell while it's fresh so cats don't like it very much until it's had time to dry and lose most of its lemon scent.","attachment":null,"posted":1716166620},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733863,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733731
Grass takes more water to keep green than a lot of alternatives. Yarrow and clover are two classic examples of lawns that need less water and I've found that mugwort is a good addition to lawns, but I don't think it can grow dense enough to form a lawn by itself.","attachment":null,"posted":1716166874},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733863
Water is not a huge concern of mine. I got 4.5 inches in the last four days. Anyways, I've messed around with alot of alternatives, the closest to hitting the mark is Perennial Peanut. However it is inferior to a good grass. Nothing will stay as uniform as this with as little work. No irrigation, high traffic, shade and full sun. Nothing gets close.
Anyways it goes without saying that natives will always be preferable to non natives, however, if I'm already making the sacrifice to have a non native grass why add clover to the mix? Sorrel etc. will grow in it naturally anyways and thicken it up.
If I want to put a ground cover down around the base of trees or in some beds I'll go with the creeping phlox or villas or something but they aren't a replacement they can't take the foot traffic.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716171503863745.jpg","filename":"20240519_221049.jpg"},"posted":1716171503},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733892,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733890
Ok, boomer","attachment":null,"posted":1716171869},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733894,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733890
Now like I said outside of the immediate yard I let it go. The natives keep themselves in check for the winter. For the first month and a half of spring you get this really nice coverage of toadflax and sorrel like in the pic (which was from some time in april). By about the start of May though it begins to play-out and you have to mow it.
If you mow back the sorrel a bit early might pick up a week or two of dandelions, blue eyed grass, primrose, and vervian- and some asters in places, but eventually the Bahia is going to start dominating and it will go to seed every three days or so and will get out of hand fast and you just have to keep mowing it back. You get stuck with a choice between the Bahia getting out of control or mowing back the asters/vervian/primrose. Also if you don't eventually mow you are going to get brambles, greenbriar, persimmons seedlings, live oaks, water oaks, red cedars, cherry, etc. popping up in places you don't really want them. Obviously other regions will be different though.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716172362286240.jpg","filename":"20240519_221918.jpg"},"posted":1716172362},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733890
Also when I refer to sorrel thickening up the grass I'm talking about yellow wood sorrel not the red sorrel. The red sorrel is obviously totally different. The yellow wood sorrel when mowed though will stay low and grow like a ground cover down in the grass","attachment":null,"posted":1716172554},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733900,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730976
I have bermuda now because it stays green in summer and fills in. However, it jumps and digs and now I have bermuda grass everywhere. It still looks good on the lawn.","attachment":null,"posted":1716173029},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733901,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733894
Here's what you get if you sparingly mow the Bahia and natives a half dozen times or so every year. It's pretty but this is like waist high in the pic so you don't want it in your yard.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716173227826543.jpg","filename":"1712781468295374m.jpg"},"posted":1716173227},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2733904,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733901
For comparison, this is predominantly native grasses (not much bahia) now if you just let this go some places would stay more or less like that and others would get wooly over time but generally areas will eventually grow up into brush if not mowed occasionally.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716173512682188.jpg","filename":"20240519_224854.jpg"},"posted":1716173512},{"board":"out","thread":2730976,"pid":2734063,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730976
clover seed costs 2-3x what fescue seed costs.","attachment":null,"posted":1716213420}]}
{"title":"Czech M85 Backpack","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731069,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How does the Czech M85 fair for camping?
(And how does military surplus gear fair in general)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715488266909446.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-11 212619.png"},"posted":1715488266},{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731069
Substandard. You can get better fitting, better wearing options.","attachment":null,"posted":1715488439},{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731070
Any other surplus options you recommend?","attachment":null,"posted":1715489475},{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731074
Dutch
Why surplus and not civilian market?","attachment":null,"posted":1715492747},{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731069
military surplus is most often lowest bidder trash
i like the jackets/parkas and field shirts but only because they are extremely cheap and made to last for decades, most civilian jackets/parkas/shirts at the same price point are made of very thin fabrics with shoddy seams and they tear easily after only a few weeks
other good surplus shit is the underwear, socks, shovels","attachment":null,"posted":1715495306},{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"regarding surplus pants they are usually very boxy with no adjustment, so i just buy a high quality pair of "civilian" pants for outdoors and use that for years, the surplus jackets/parkas normally have good adjustment with drawstrings, buttons and velcro","attachment":null,"posted":1715495608},{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731155,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731093
>no adjustment
Do you mean a belt?","attachment":null,"posted":1715523373},{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731083
Because I wanna larp as a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. in the woods","attachment":null,"posted":1715569713},{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731091
>military surplus is most often lowest bidder trash
not the commie stuff, most of it (boots and jackets especially) will outlive the memory of everyone you know","attachment":null,"posted":1715585807},{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The US Army ACU UCP camouflage gear is widely available since the US Army discontinued its use and it is cheap because most people do not like the camo pattern.
Military surplus sites have 65 liter packs as well as smaller raid packs and web gear available at very good prices. I paid about $60 for the UCP ACU 65 liter surplus pack and see civilian gear that usually costs in excess of $400.
The military gear will be well made with heavy duty materials. It will be heavier than most civilian gear.
I buy the US Army UCP ACU and dye it to help it blend in better to the area of Appalachia I live in. Hobby Lobby has green textile dyes that work well.
Picrel has for reference an M1981 Alice pack in woodland camo, a MarPat magazine shingle, A British Disruptive camo pattern pack cover and a ACU UCP 65 liter pack and a ACU UCP raid pack I dyed.
You can see on the 65 liter pack a portion of the pack I was not able to get into the dye bath so it shows the US Army ACU UCP pattern as it originally is
It is a personal decision but I like finding good deals on military surplus items.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715599443150584.jpg","filename":"Camo.jpg"},"posted":1715599443},{"board":"out","thread":2731069,"pid":2731671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731069
>85
lol
vz85 was pure trash and it's only positive is that it's waterproof (it's rubber duh)
but if you really want it make sure it has straps because it does not have them by default. also the straps suck because they are a part of the whole webbing bullshit so you also need some sort of a belt for them to work (unless you do some hackjob and use pliers to make it "work").
85 was just ""modernized"" version of the old vz60 and it never got any use since commies fell and czechoslovakia broke couple years later
as a sidenote the whole vz85 set is ass because it was made solely as a peacekeeping uniform and to be as "neutral as possible". so for example the uniform doesn't even have the infrared coating the old 1960's uniforms had lmao
although the vz85 coat is pretty neat and stalker-y","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715619385899892.png","filename":"image_2024-05-13_185606900.png"},"posted":1715619385}]}
{"title":"alps fauna","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2730717,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Europe isn't known for it's dangerous fauna and predators, but in the Alps there are bears, wolves and foxes, and also boars in the pre alps, I don't know much about them but I want to learn more.
I'm about to go to the admaello national park in the alps for a 2day outing and i got the (irrational?) fear of getting jumped by a pack of wolves or a nigger bear while i sleep.
I'll be between 1800m (start) and 2800m(end)
ITT we discuss the topic of predators and dangerous animals in the alps, where they are, how to prepare, defend yourself, and avoid them.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715393259748291.jpg","filename":"lupo6-e1467378542240-2603387207.jpg"},"posted":1715393259},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2730730,"name":"Anonymous","msg":""23th April 2023 a youngster that was running on a trail in the woods was killed by a female bear near the town of Caldes"
"estimated population for 2020 is around 100" (bears)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715393903383275.jpg","filename":"20240511_041429.jpg"},"posted":1715393903},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2730731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730730
sorry I brain farted it was the "5th of April" and the guy was 26","attachment":null,"posted":1715393974},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2730732,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've read both bears and wolves prefer wooded areas, the place I'm going to is barren just rocks and grass so it feels better, anyway we'll see.
how do Americans/canadians/Scandinavians/Russians deal with these fuckers when out?","attachment":null,"posted":1715394494},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2730944,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730732
From what I've seen they leave the food and smelly stuff far outside their tents for the night so that a bear eats their food rather than them, overall they prepare the camp so that it won't attract bears.
Also guns of course, and pepper spray.","attachment":null,"posted":1715454733},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2730959,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730944
id bring a 10mm or 308, but according to my state laws i dont have the right to defend my life and will be punished if I do so.
yeah I've seen them hanging the bear food bags, and also clap while hiking, I did it today","attachment":null,"posted":1715458835},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2731023,"name":"Deeokahn","msg":">>2730717
Dude be careful and carry bear spray!
A conservation program reintorduced brown bears in that area, taking them from slovenia.
There have been attacks and even one dead guy who was jogging on a trail there, the first lethal bear attack in a century.
I was told by an hiker there are also wolves somewhere around here, don't remember where though, I'm a stoner.
Good luck!","attachment":null,"posted":1715472036},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2731110,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730717
>>2731023
>taking them from slovenia.
are there bears and wolves in slovenian alps? i was thinking of visiting grintovec and triglav","attachment":null,"posted":1715505249},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2731122,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"your fear is irrational. the only reason you get attacked by a bear while asleep is because you didnt store your food properly, and no just leaving it far from your tent is not enough, and still teaches the bear to look for human food. hanging should only be done on a tree with at least a 10ft limb 20 ft up, so requires a decent amount of cord. the safest thing for yourself and the bears is to just use a bear can","attachment":null,"posted":1715515513},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2731136,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730717
Learn how to affix a knife to a sturdy straight branch, making a small spear. 10 minutes of handywork creates a weapon that has decided the outcome of history countless times. You only need a handle of say 30 cm to fend off various animals and the if you put the sheath on the blade it can be kept in your pack. Then again, you don't want to be seen walking through quaint Alpish towns with what looks like a brutal improvised weapon, so...","attachment":null,"posted":1715520295},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2731170,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731136
I always have my big knife hanging from my belt and no one ever even acknowledged it, idk they even saw it, and they talk with me and chat no problem, dont think they give a shit","attachment":null,"posted":1715525620},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2732645,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"anyone here ever had some encounters?
I met a pack of boars in the pre alps while going up a super steep off trail muddy incline where I had to be on my knees with a stick to go up, and those guys just ran down like it was nothing, it they charged me I would've been absolutely fucked, pretty cool and scary experience.
also met a mother and baby deer or something like that, in the middle of the road in a very small and full of tight curves road, and when I started honking they didnt go innawoods but kept running along the road, not very smart, if another car arrived while we were there it could've needed in a car crash and the deers would've been rekt","attachment":null,"posted":1715867775},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2734683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731110
Bears in Slovenia are mostly in the southern part of the country from what I've heard","attachment":null,"posted":1716360459},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2734687,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730717
>but in the Alps there are bears, wolves and foxes, and also boars in the pre alps
Even the Dutch have boar and wolves. The boar are very skittish and shy away from people. The wolves are getting more bold, but mostly in terms of chasing cyclists innawoods (lol).","attachment":null,"posted":1716364636},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2734700,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730717
Yes, there's hordes of wolves and bears ready to savage your wop ass.
>>2730730
Ironically that too was a terrone bastard. Definitely disturbed the beast somehow, highly doubt it was a chance encounter and definitely not predation.
In Europe, it's most often clueless idiots that fall victims to wild beasts.","attachment":null,"posted":1716373197},{"board":"out","thread":2730717,"pid":2734701,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732645
>super steep off trail muddy incline where I had to be on my knees
>met a mother and baby deer and when I started honking
LMFAO I had to take a screenshot of this crap, stay home.","attachment":null,"posted":1716373559}]}
{"title":"Aliexpress Naturehike tents -- real deal?","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2730790,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I looked for a tent thread to post this in, but search didn't bring up a general thread.
Anyway, The Cloud Up 2 is a solid tent from what I've read and it's way cheaper on Aliexpress than Amazon (£104 instead of £155!) so naturally I want to get it from there. But is it real, or am I buying fakes or factory seconds?
Recently i bought some Vans shoes in their "sale" but what I actually received were clearly cast-offs that they couldn't sell as standard quality due to bad stitching -- this has never been the case paying full price in 20 years of buying them. I don't want to get a shit tent for 60% of the price of a good one so please advise me /out/.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715413011122497.png","filename":"tent.png"},"posted":1715413011},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2730794,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
>chinkshit
just use craigslist retard","attachment":null,"posted":1715413435},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2730797,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730794
Not to unseat you from your grasp of the world around you, but we do not have that here. And I don't want a second-hand tent because then I would have to consider the possibility of it being fucked with before I got it -- I just need 1 decent tent to last the next 5-10 years, so I am buying it right (and at the best price).","attachment":null,"posted":1715413606},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2730798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
Genuine knock offs. Send anything to manufacture in China and they'll copy it and sell it cheaper.","attachment":null,"posted":1715413613},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2730800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730797
most people selling camping equipment online have only used it once and probably got it from some local outdoors store. it'll be 10x better than whatever you can find on aliexpress.","attachment":null,"posted":1715413823},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2730807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"there's a chinkshit thread with more info on Chinese gear, and I think one more in the archive as well","attachment":null,"posted":1715418623},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2730808,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
naturekike is a chink company and you're buying it from china, of course it's gonna be cheaper duh","attachment":null,"posted":1715419336},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2730810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
>I looked for a tent thread to post this in, but search didn't bring up a general thread.
>
>Anyway, The Cloud Up 2 is a solid tent from what I've read and it's way cheaper on Aliexpress than Amazon (£104 instead of £155!) so naturally I want to get it from there. But is it real, or am I buying fakes or factory seconds?
It's real, I got my cloud up 2 from AliExpress. Make sure you are comparing the right tents though, some in that listing use 20D fabric while others use 210T fabric and that changes the price. You also don't get factory seconds, with Amazon you are just paying for a reseller, which means arbitrage, storage, advertising and the greed of the reseller are included in the price.
>I don't want to get a shit tent for 60% of the price of a good one so please advise me /out/.
If I were you I'd buy it. If you want to be safe, use a listing with more sales rather than one with 3 sales.
Also there's a AliExpress thread that this would fit in better but I get that you wouldn't find that unless you were looking for it specifically.","attachment":null,"posted":1715420090},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2730961,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The naturehike 1P is listed for AU$165 on Amzon AU. I bought one and used it on an overnight bike packing trip. Good tent, did the job. Wasn't raining though, we'll see how it goes in the coming winter. Pretty versatile tent. You can set it up as mesh only or fly only or mesh+fly. Would buy again out of ten.","attachment":null,"posted":1715458928},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730794
Absolute shit advice. The selection is basically zero and there’s no kind of buyer protection. eBay and Gear Trade are better options.","attachment":null,"posted":1715476587},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731055,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
>Recently i bought some Vans shoes in their "sale" but what I actually received were clearly cast-offs that they couldn't sell as standard quality due to bad stitching
That's what you get for being a cheap cunt.","attachment":null,"posted":1715481161},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730961
I used cloudup 1 with the footprint during a night of rain and if held up fine.","attachment":null,"posted":1715490222},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731081,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
>real deal?
No, they're cheap imitations of MSR tents. Everything Naturehike makes is a cheap copy of something someone else made better. They're not 60% off the price. The price of a real MSR tent is $300+ Buy knock offs and you'll get knock off quality. Everything on Aliexpress and >75% of Amazon is a knock off.","attachment":null,"posted":1715491706},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731102,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730798
>Send anything to manufacture in China and they'll copy it and sell it cheaper.
With cheaper materials and negative quality control because there isn't a company inspector whipping the kids in the factory.","attachment":null,"posted":1715501026},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731121,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730810
>If I were you I'd buy it.
>>2730961
>Would buy again out of ten.
I will buy it.
>>2731055
>That's what you get for being a cheap cunt.
Come on. If they are having their own sale, they shouldn't be shifting shit stock onto 20+ year customers. Simple as.
>>2731077
Since I'll be in the UK, rain input is useful.
>>2731081
>No, they're cheap imitations of MSR tents.
Ah, ya stuck me with this comment so late into the thread. The thing is, you're probably correct in a lot of ways but I can see the law of diminishing returns in action here -- a $3000 guitar is generally better than a $750 guitar, but it doesn't necessarily hold tune better, it is more in the finer detail such as the fit and finish, and aesthetics where the higher price is created. I think this will be the same: 90% of the functionality for 30% of the price.
Thanks to all who posted. I'll order it and hopefully with sensible use it will hold up for me like it has for other posters.","attachment":null,"posted":1715515468},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731138,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731121
Be sure to report back in a future thread anon...","attachment":null,"posted":1715520431},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731151,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730794
>don't buy chink shit from a chunk website
>instead use an American website to buy chink shit
The logic is palpable","attachment":null,"posted":1715522902},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730797
What do you have? Chinkshit is not going to be good.
>>2731151
The logic is to not buy chinkshit","attachment":null,"posted":1715534683},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731291,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
I worked in 2 different outdoor gear retailers and besides my alpine climbing tents I only use these chinesium backpacking tents for everything else. You pay up the ass for namebrand tents that have only slightly better quality control. be all end all is whether you like the design and purpose. seamseal all your tents, namebrand or not. And in really shit weather, consider bringing a tarp as well as every single tent will leak at some point from somewhere. 3FUL has an official site, I would check that out. Naturehike has good cheap tents, Aliexpress is best prices but if you wait for a sale on amazon, then at least you have some buyers protections. If you really want namebrand work in the retail industry and get some prodeals","attachment":null,"posted":1715548713},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731339,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
>buying from shitty slop retailers
You get what you deserve.","attachment":null,"posted":1715558408},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
tarp","attachment":null,"posted":1715559390},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
Having one vestibule and its on the short side of the rectangle
Top kek","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715560716367686.jpg","filename":"1714497413955270.jpg"},"posted":1715560716},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731216
>What do you have? Chinkshit is not going to be good.
Your entire house is full of chinkshit, including the electrical device you wrote that on -- it was made in Shenzhen, a city on the south coast of China. Check if you like, I am correct.
I'm not American so I don't have "made in muh USA"" mindset about things, if something is decent then I have no politics stopping me from buying it.
>>2731347
It's a 2 person tent, I will just keep my shoes in the vestebule, everything else will fit nicely inside with me.","attachment":null,"posted":1715591725},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731291
>You pay up the ass for namebrand tents that have only slightly better quality control. be all end all is whether you like the design and purpose.
Thanks for the input.
>>2731291
>seamseal all your tents, namebrand or not.
Yes, this seems like a good idea, I will do.","attachment":null,"posted":1715591868},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731516
>if something is decent then I have no politics stopping me from buying it.
sounds like a kike or anglo mindset to me","attachment":null,"posted":1715598811},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
Naturehike is a chinese brand. On amazon you are just donating the difference to a dropshipper.","attachment":null,"posted":1715604473},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731533
Your extended family is full of kikes and anglos then isn't it? Come on lad.","attachment":null,"posted":1715626675},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731740,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
I promise you that tent is hot as fuck
I bought an amazon backpacking tent and it was cheap but it is also heavy and hot. I really can't even use it in Florida where I live. I have to wait until a couple hours after the sun has gone down to sleep in it.
So for me, it's a tarp.","attachment":null,"posted":1715628691},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731743,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731740
the reason the tent is hot is because the mesh doesn't go all the way to the bottom btw so check on that","attachment":null,"posted":1715628935},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2731744,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731740
>I promise you that tent is hot as fuck
This is actually a good thing for me, it sounds well insulated. Holt sunny weather is a luxury for us, we get maybe 3 scorchers per year, so the fact that it holds warmth is exactly what I want. Cheers.","attachment":null,"posted":1715628952},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2732957,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731744
>tent
>insulated
anon.....","attachment":null,"posted":1715953217},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2733205,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
You never know what you're going to get from Ali, but give it a go by all means.
Last month I rolled the dice on "Genuine NEW" Garmin Instinct Solar for a fraction of one from the shop, and a high spec tablet on sale.
The watch is definitely genuine and new.
The tablet was trash, but with a couple of clicks I got my money back.
This is in line with what I've come to expect - quality is a bit of a gamble, but it's not difficult to resolve any issues. I've never had a refund declined.
Tent specific, I got one a while back and it was fucking great - seam sealed, snow flaps, a ton of alloy snow pegs etc.
Right up until the zip broke.
I actually got it with zero expectations for the kids to garden camp, but ended up using it in the hills because it was lighter than my $$$ tent. Never quite trusted it for winter in the mountains though - it's Ali after all : )","attachment":null,"posted":1716016653},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2733210,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Naturehike and Lanshan are pretty good. Know a couple of people with them and they have no problems with them. You can find people who have taken them on through hikes and they have held up alright. Just got to make sure to seam seal as some are not from the factory.","attachment":null,"posted":1716020253},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2733701,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732957
decathlon makes these","attachment":null,"posted":1716145409},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2734416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731533
Not buying "made in USA" is anti-semitic.
Assuming two products of equal quality and price, one made in China the other in USA, I'd buy the chinkshit.","attachment":null,"posted":1716287109},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2734423,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730790
In this day and age saving 100 dollars isn't worth ordering Chinese garbage to me. Rei is having their anniversary sale all week.","attachment":null,"posted":1716288815},{"board":"out","thread":2730790,"pid":2734425,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"AliExpress and Alibaba is a mixture of the two following;
Genuine shit that comes off the same assembly line as name brand stuff and is sold black market from the same factory
And
Total knock off garbage with deceiving or outright lying specs","attachment":null,"posted":1716289034}]}
{"title":"/Out/ Smokes","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731159,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What do you smoke when you're /out/? I'm not a smoker but I enjoy picrel when I go outing.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715523857760193.jpg","filename":"Cofcig.jpg"},"posted":1715523857},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731192,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731159
I smoke cuban rounds but also keep a long stemmed pipe to smoke the leftover cigar tobacco in the evenings while enjoying a beer or some hooch I made.","attachment":null,"posted":1715531263},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731201,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731159
I've taken up vaping.The clouds I produce,are superior for bug defense.","attachment":null,"posted":1715532131},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731205,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731159
What do you drink when you're /out/? I'm not an alcoholic but I enjoy picrel when I go outing.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715532634256504.png","filename":"wino.png"},"posted":1715532634},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I rarely smoke while /out/ because I'm too busy doing out shit. In fact, it's a big reason why I smoke less. However, yesterday, while returning from a fishing trip, I smoked my last Toscano and took two bumps of Red Bull snuff.","attachment":null,"posted":1715536092},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731279,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731159
Crack","attachment":null,"posted":1715545367},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731281,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731205
here we take these wineskins full of wine, it's great to recover energy","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715546061236453.jpg","filename":"bota-de-vino-premium-beige-curva.jpg"},"posted":1715546061},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731910,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731159
I'll typically smoke a cigar every week or two, if I'm outside and the weather is nice.
Sometimes I think about trying out a pipe, like my Great Grandpa used to smoke. I remember it smelled so good.
Can't stand cigarettes though, nasty things.","attachment":null,"posted":1715658810},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731918,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731910
meerschaum cob pipe and some captain black is a good cheap aromatic combo to start","attachment":null,"posted":1715660481},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731954,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Weed, nothing like getting to camp, setting up and then smoking while wondering around gathering wood. No use smoking before camp is set though, that's a goddam mess.","attachment":null,"posted":1715684965},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2731959,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731159
I vape
>faggot
Don't care. And I take few spare 21700s depending on how long I'm staying /out. Being able hot swap battery is way better, than charging your vape while camping. They also fit my flashlight, so that's nice.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715686689110534.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240514_113339273.jpg"},"posted":1715686689},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2732001,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731959
Dude, why is that room you're in such a mess? Looks like you were robbed or sumthin.","attachment":null,"posted":1715696532},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2732029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731954
Nature joints are killer. Smoking with a view is even more killer, go for a hike and spark up at the top where you can see for 30+ miles.","attachment":null,"posted":1715700452},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2732036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731959
get addicted to vaping so you never forget extra batteries for you flashlight.","attachment":null,"posted":1715701897},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2732047,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731187
You're simnply too young to appreciate these things, it's obvious from a mile away.
And yeah, I love whiskey and pipes. So what?","attachment":null,"posted":1715703766},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2732051,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732047
NTA but I don't understand the appeal of cigars either. You don't even inhale them? The entire point is just the act of smoking. tasting, and smelling the cigar? It seems like you risk a lot for something that other things do a lot better.","attachment":null,"posted":1715704903},{"board":"out","thread":2731159,"pid":2733133,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Smoking an Allegria Lonsdale. It has improved since when I first bought them, which was 1+ years ago. Yesterday, I smoked a bowl of Capstan Gold in a cob, great blend.
>>2732051
There's also a nicotine buzz, and the risk is actually incredibly low.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715996863224482.jpg","filename":"1700609257479.jpg"},"posted":1715996863}]}
{"title":"What is this thing?","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731160,"pid":2731160,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I found it in a cave in Japan. About the size of a golf ball. I got bad vibes from it so I didn’t touch it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715523963778413.png","filename":"6E1F5D79-80BB-4810-814A-DC7ACB6CA6DB.png"},"posted":1715523963},{"board":"out","thread":2731160,"pid":2731164,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731160
you finally found your first ball of spiders","attachment":null,"posted":1715525003},{"board":"out","thread":2731160,"pid":2731166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"cute spider ball anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715525338},{"board":"out","thread":2731160,"pid":2731173,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731164
>>2731166
I’m both confused and horrified that this is a thing but thank my instincts for telling me not to touch it","attachment":null,"posted":1715526007},{"board":"out","thread":2731160,"pid":2731179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731173
it's a ball o' spiders","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715528135509254.jpg","filename":"ballospiders.jpg"},"posted":1715528135},{"board":"out","thread":2731160,"pid":2731196,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731160
Thats an anti urbanite cluster mine (AUCM)
When triggered it will sprawl out a bunch of spiders to crawl up your arm and assuming you only brought the one flashlight(as most city folk are want to do) will cause panicky jerking movements in your reaction, making the now flashing between light and darkness insects that much more terrifying to see spreading ravidly out and up the limb that disturbed the.
Best results when flashlight is dropped during panic, this creates maximum trauma to the urbanite, effectively creating a phobia on the spot and causing the city dweller to long for the the comforts of home and vow never to step into a treeline again, and fear those that do.
Your instincts did well by you, likely because you have some woodsman blood in your veins.","attachment":null,"posted":1715531730}]}
{"title":"/out/ hunting","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731244,"name":"Mark","msg":"hunters of /out/, what's the last thing you hunted & ate?
The main thing to hunt where I live is deer, Venison is really good but its illegal to sell anything. I have some pelts but idk what to do with them","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715539909655000.jpg","filename":"tooslow.jpg"},"posted":1715539909},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731272,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Cheesecake","attachment":null,"posted":1715543765},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731298,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731244
Rabbit. It's been too long.","attachment":null,"posted":1715550951},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731348,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731244
>Last thing i hunted and ate
Wild turkey
>last thing i hunted
Black bear, but ive had pneumonia the last 2 weeks and havent been back out. My family doesnt eat (((meat))) from the goycery store, so i hunt and fish a TON to make sure we have enough. Its alot of work","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715560978768258.jpg","filename":"77413.jpg"},"posted":1715560978},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731350,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731244
My first elk last November. Been eating him few times a week since.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715561954079831.jpg","filename":"Elk.jpg"},"posted":1715561954},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731402,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The last couple hunting seasons have been a shit show due to work schedule and shit. I shot a deer with my 357mag but the bullet hit about a 3" diameter sappling. Went through that, exited the other side and hit the deer. Had good blood for a minute but I never found it. Other than that pretty good squirrel hunting as always.","attachment":null,"posted":1715567147},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731403,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731350
Nice never had elk, does it taste the same as deer?","attachment":null,"posted":1715567276},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731403
Its a little milder. All these internet wannabe fag celebrities going nuts over it are lying. Its definitely better than deer, but its still wild game with 0 fat.","attachment":null,"posted":1715570062},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731591,"name":"Caveman","msg":"Mule deer, last season. Still have a shoulder in the freezer.","attachment":null,"posted":1715611364},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731592,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731403
What this >>2731428 guy said","attachment":null,"posted":1715611470},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731919,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Who here small game?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715660523181556.jpg","filename":"1704014537067780.jpg"},"posted":1715660523},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2731955,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Red Spiker a few months ago. Very good meat, not too bad of a carry..great fun.","attachment":null,"posted":1715685111},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2732038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731919
Based. Small game was the working white mans hunting for millennia until (((media))) started pushing big game to sell magazines and videos and now apps and youtube videos. Good on you anon. Howd you cook em?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715702227299606.jpg","filename":"0129230757.jpg"},"posted":1715702227},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2732200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Last thing was axis deer buck in Texas on the morning of the eclipse. I've yet to eat it. Before that, bull elk from Montana rifle hunt.
I live in NV where it's really hard to draw tags, so I apply for 7 Western states. Utah, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Montana, New Mexico, Colorado.
Tips:
Montana has a 60% chance at 0 points. The big game combo tag is amazing, either sex deer, and elk, archery and/or rifle. My wife and I have been getting this tag every year for the past 3 years.
I've built a spreadsheet tracking all deadlines for all 7 states and staggered them in a way that allows me to apply for each one in the most optimal way possible. This allows me to get at least one tag for elk per year.
If you're new, get cow elk tags. They're very easy to get in Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho. They're fun hunts because they take place in the same units as the primo bull tags, cheaper, and the 1:5 bull to cow ratio in most units means you have a really high chance to fill your freezer every year.
I haven't had to buy meat in 3 years. Freezer is always packed with elk, deer, rabbit (from my farm).
I use e-scouting, a combination of Google earth, Gaia gps, forums, and all trails, to get a really good plan on where I'm gonna hunt. I can get a tag anywhere and find all the hot spots this way, secret honey holes no longer exist.","attachment":null,"posted":1715747891},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2732201,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Also, you want to hunt elk because it's the same amount of work as deer, but you get double the meat and it's better tasting meat anyway. They're also easier to hunt because of the bugling, cow calling, size and color.","attachment":null,"posted":1715748182},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2732203,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731350
christ you've got some long fingers","attachment":null,"posted":1715748939},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2732249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Badger","attachment":null,"posted":1715770513},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2732430,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Last thing I've hunted and ate is a deer in my back field with my .50 cal flintlock, next hunting season I want to try an get an elk. For that trip I might bring a 30-06","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715809603315432.jpg","filename":"dylanbuck.jpg"},"posted":1715809603},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2732479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732203
agarthan phenotype","attachment":null,"posted":1715818116},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2733349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Should I even care about CWD when it seems to be fucking everywhere and is basically undetectable except for the very late stages?","attachment":null,"posted":1716067572},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2733369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732038
Deep fried and saucy","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716073734611050.jpg","filename":"1707322638707856.jpg"},"posted":1716073734},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2733372,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733349
It's in my county and I don't care. The area I used to hunt was not officially part of the cwd zone but it was literally the county adjacent to it. Safe to say it has always been here and just never officially found in tests. NBD imo but I'm an oldfag so for me the risk is low.","attachment":null,"posted":1716074040},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2733946,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731244
>>2731272
>>2731298
>>2731348
>>2731350
>>2731402
>>2731403
>>2731428
>>2731591
>>2731592
>>2731919
>>2731955
>>2732038
>>2732200
>>2732201
>>2732203
>>2732249
>>2732430
>>2732479
>>2733349
>>2733369
>>2733372
If you must eat meat, eat carnivorous animals because they are guilty of extreme rights violations. Killing herbivores is evil.","attachment":null,"posted":1716182274},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2734037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733946
That makes sense and I support it.
However, herbivores such as deer have no concept of population control, reproduce like crazy, and destroy the environment due to a lack of natural predators; in addition, carnivores tend to be smaller, so they require more work and time for the same of meat.
Just saying.","attachment":null,"posted":1716211565},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2734151,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733946
schizo???","attachment":null,"posted":1716227822},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2734327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Always wanted to get into hunting but never picked it up when I was little. Am I retarded for trying to get into it now? I'm 22.","attachment":null,"posted":1716256876},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2734336,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734327
Not retarded. I'm 34 and just started.
Start small with a .22LR and shoot ground birds and rabbits. Learn to skin and clean them. Work your way up to bigger stuff after that. I've gotten a bunch of rabbits and birbs, it's quite satisfying when you're sitting down eating a grouse you've shot, cleaned, and cooked yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1716258109},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2734343,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733946
kinda based ngl","attachment":null,"posted":1716260063},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2734344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733946
Killing herbivores is not evil, it is nature. Nature and the natural order is not evil.","attachment":null,"posted":1716260380},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2734533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734327
You are retarded if you don’t get into it.
It’s not as hard as it seems. Hunt a doe or a wild pig.","attachment":null,"posted":1716311694},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2734535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733946
Faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1716311754},{"board":"out","thread":2731244,"pid":2734717,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734327
Some say you don't even need a hunting loicence. In fact, tghre are people who just buy a compound crossbow in the internet and some hunting arrow tips. For those, the hunting season is all year long. Unlimited tags.","attachment":null,"posted":1716382351}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731064,"pid":2731064,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Have any of you lived in Gustavus AK? What's it like there?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715485179587798.jpg","filename":"DJI_0004-877193970.jpg"},"posted":1715485179},{"board":"out","thread":2731064,"pid":2731065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731064
Yeah. It sucks, and Greg still owes me $40.","attachment":null,"posted":1715485274},{"board":"out","thread":2731064,"pid":2732064,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Air freight is expensive, so the ferry system is your shipping lifeline... and Mike fucking Dunleavy keeps hacking away at the budget for vital public services. If you aren't fishing, then you work for the state, see above note about corrupt administration. The rain and wind through the inlets will beat the hell out of you pretty frequently.
All told, though, if you can handle the isolation and the limited options... it ain't bad living. Just don't spend the rest of your life there without seeing any more of the world.","attachment":null,"posted":1715710387}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2731249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why is Europe prettier than the US?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715541083891734.jpg","filename":"Schärding,_Burggraben-Innlände_vanaf_der_Alte_Innbrücke_foto7_2017-08-08_15.56.jpg"},"posted":1715541083},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2731253,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731249
Comparing a large continent with a large country is too broad. I'd be more interested in smaller-scale comparisons like Scandinavia vs. Alaska or England/Ireland vs. NE/NY.","attachment":null,"posted":1715541430},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2731274,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731253
Well you go ahead then and make a couple threads about those small-scale comparison, smarty-pants. Here in America (peace be upon her) we like big things.","attachment":null,"posted":1715543933},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2731899,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731249
they developed their cities before the rise of industrialism. america is a shitty colony made to extract wealth for the real owners of western civilization.","attachment":null,"posted":1715655665},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2731909,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731249
Seems like a distinctly /in/ post","attachment":null,"posted":1715658522},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2731915,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731249
American backpacking >>>/out/
Euro backpacking >>>/trv/","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715659596067982.jpg","filename":"european vs american backpacking.jpg"},"posted":1715659596},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2731921,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They used to cut down 100 acres of forest to make one ship","attachment":null,"posted":1715661397},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2732060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731249
>prettier
>subjective
define that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715709767},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2732071,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"ew, manmade structures...","attachment":null,"posted":1715713033},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2732087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731249
it's not tho","attachment":null,"posted":1715716608},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2732122,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731253
I wouldn't be interested in thrhat at all.","attachment":null,"posted":1715727158},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2732123,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732071
The likes of which you never leave","attachment":null,"posted":1715727728},{"board":"out","thread":2731249,"pid":2732151,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731249
because europe has been handcrafted and molded over thousands of years, and most of the continent is developed. the US is built like minecraft over the course of 200 years juxtaposed against much larger natural areas","attachment":null,"posted":1715733741}]}
{"title":"Attention Motorcyclists","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731435,"pid":2731435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This is for half-helmet riders.
Is it time that we switched over to paramotor helmets since the goddamned moto helmet manufacturers can't figure it out when it comes to hearing protection?
Everyone says half helmets are more dangerous anyways, you might as well add the benefit of having mounts to your helmet that hold ear muffs and a faceshield while being suicidal.
The e966 safety standard cert tests are identical to DOT approved (And shady manufacturers can slap the sticker on with no testing)
"JUST WEAR EARPLUGS!"
Can't anymore, ears recently started randomly getting inflamed from pressure.
"TRY THE OUTER EAR MOLD EARPLUGS!"
They work... to a good degree. But not for 70mph winds.
Thoughts? Inb4 retard.
(Go look at how you have to mutilate the insides of a fullface to have a chance at mounting ear muffs inside. Or how full-facers have to wear a whole ass neck brace addition under their helmet to reduce wind buffeting even more.
(Yes, a thread died for this)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715572129219334.jpg","filename":"04_a_1080x.jpg"},"posted":1715572129},{"board":"out","thread":2731435,"pid":2731514,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>>/o/
You're on the wrong board bud.","attachment":null,"posted":1715589976},{"board":"out","thread":2731435,"pid":2731707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731514
I thought /out/ meant /outomobile/ (sarcasm)
Mods can you move this!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715624315049654.jpg","filename":"1715538544399462.jpg"},"posted":1715624315},{"board":"out","thread":2731435,"pid":2731726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731435
Helmets are gay in general. If you're going to ride the thing then you might as well enjoy it, but that's in places where you're not helmcucked which is almost everywhere.","attachment":null,"posted":1715627366},{"board":"out","thread":2731435,"pid":2731769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731726
God should've made our bones primarily out of iron. We could handle the weight of it; walking /fat/people are living proof of this.","attachment":null,"posted":1715632120},{"board":"out","thread":2731435,"pid":2731842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731726
And mandatory motorcycle insurance.
And no lane splitting.
Goddamn nanny states all of em /grumble","attachment":null,"posted":1715645830},{"board":"out","thread":2731435,"pid":2733136,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731435
>Can't anymore, ears recently started randomly getting inflamed from pressure.
It's over buddy. Buy the chin curtain and suffer.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715997114609841.jpg","filename":"motocamp202309(4).jpg"},"posted":1715997114},{"board":"out","thread":2731435,"pid":2733137,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731726
It's great till bugs.","attachment":null,"posted":1715997176}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2731567,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I noticed a trend where my farts start to smell like the bubonic plague after camping. Anyone else experience this? Is it the dehydrated decathlon meals, the streamwater I'm drinking(filtered), maybe the electrolyte tablets? Send help","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715605244831507.jpg","filename":"istockphoto-615732838-612x612.jpg"},"posted":1715605244},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2731569,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Yeah it depends on what you're eating. Garlic of any sort gives me the worst farts. Still gonna eat it tho lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715605612},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2731571,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731567
guy im the picture poot so fart he lifted up","attachment":null,"posted":1715606038},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2731756,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731567
just bring real food and stop trying to be cool
who are you impressing anyway?","attachment":null,"posted":1715630569},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2731785,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731567
Those dehydrated meals do it for me too. I don't mess with them anymore, better off with ramen or Mac and cheese or anything else. Another thing i do if I'm just going for a night is vacuum pack a bagel with cream cheese, and it'll keep through the night. That's a really nice breakfast when you're hungry.","attachment":null,"posted":1715633100},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2732427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731567
I'm bumping this thread because I want the board to suffer","attachment":null,"posted":1715808810},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2732472,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Probably the Wendigo cum in your ass, I wouldn't worry about it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715817040},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2732483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731567
dried food is mainly lentil based what did you expect lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715818733},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2732484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731567
>dehydrated decathlon meals
it's most likely this. i've read reviews of some mountain house meals doing this very thing","attachment":null,"posted":1715818928},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2732487,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731567","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715819784640818.jpg","filename":"1715605244831507.jpg"},"posted":1715819784},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2732548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731567","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715837710412394.jpg","filename":"FB_IMG_1715837672319.jpg"},"posted":1715837710},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2732618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732472
What if OP got buttpregnant with Wendigo buttbabies haha","attachment":null,"posted":1715858623},{"board":"out","thread":2731567,"pid":2732690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What if you put some Mountain House in your ass would you burp or would you make a dehydrated poopy farty mess","attachment":null,"posted":1715877252}]}
{"title":"Extensive walking","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731577,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Where can I just walk for like, years and years? Florida? California?
Lease ending in a few months and for the last few years I've basically been holding onto society by a thread. I can't keep it up anymore. I'm out of jobs that I think I could do. I'm out of money. I lack the parts to be normal. I'll probably miss my last rent payment, but I am just too crazy to get a job. It's just not there for me anymore. That ship has sailed. So it's time to be a hobo. Walking is all I've ever been good at.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715607833455321.jpg","filename":"Jean-Léon_Gérôme_-_Diogenes_-_Walters_37131.jpg"},"posted":1715607833},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731653,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hobos earn a lot of money, they fuck themselves because of drugs, not because of lack of opportunity.
Dunno where you could walk, I was almost sure going outside without a purpose was illegal in the US.","attachment":null,"posted":1715617612},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731655,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731577
Appalachian trail.","attachment":null,"posted":1715617731},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why is /out/ full of maladapted borderline societal outcasts lately?
What happened to having your shit together and enjoying nature as a pastime? Why do you retards need to get all feral and unhinged about it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715621110},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731577
Just watched Forrest Gump huh?","attachment":null,"posted":1715621264},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731694
Idk man. I'm just checking this place out. It seems that every board is just full of retarded tourists these days. This whole site is dead. Almost every board is slow as shit, this place has multiple threads up that are weeks old. Every other thread is started by bots and has no participation because it's doompilled, off topic bitching.","attachment":null,"posted":1715626177},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731577
Might as well get a shit-looking bicycle but well fitted to your physical measurements, that way you can travel 3x faster at the same amount of effort or less. You can also strap your pack to the back (with more stuff) and push it along, which is a nice way to walk in my experience. As far as criminals are concerned, who will go to too much effort to steal a locked shitcycle? Little do they know it is your perfect size and feels great to ride.","attachment":null,"posted":1715627613},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731730,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731727
If you wanted to get in-depth, I'm sure you could fit a simple electricity generation device to it as well, so that you can charge your shit on the move.","attachment":null,"posted":1715627792},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731733,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731730
Fuck, now I'm on a tangent. You can even fit a bike in a 2-man tent if you take the wheels off (most of them are quick release these days).
I think I'll be taking the bike when I go camping next time.","attachment":null,"posted":1715627927},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731653
Homeless beggars aren't hobos. a HoBo is a homeward bound individual. They have a home, they're just walking there. It started after the civil war. Conscripted soldiers were discharged from service, but had to make their own way home. It has come to blanket any migratory workers that travel for work, usually by hopping trains. Hobos seek work, transients usually panhandle and avoid work.","attachment":null,"posted":1715630892},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731762,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731760
That was meant for OP","attachment":null,"posted":1715631033},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731760
Yeah and in the 1920s that may have been a true description of people that existed but in 2024 hobo means exactly the same thing as vagrant, homeless, loser, etc. There's no distinction anymore.","attachment":null,"posted":1715631581},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731775,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I walked across America almost 13 years ago…took me about 8 months and I had about $1000 to my name. Didn’t really spend more than a few hundred and even got to work a few odd jobs during the trip. One of the best things I ever did—I’d be more hesitant nowadays with how distracted drivers are. I think a popular hiking trail like the AT would be safer all around","attachment":null,"posted":1715632436},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731897,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731577
It's almost impossible in america due to our infrastructure. cops will pick you up for walking. your best bet is to learn to trainhop, or live in a 20 yo jap econobox.","attachment":null,"posted":1715655078},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2731934,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731897
>cops will pick you up for walking
It's not "walking" that's illegal, its wandering down the center lane of a highway with your pants down screaming incoherent obscenities at the cars trying not to hit you, that got you arrested.
The cops would have gotten involved if you did it on the autobahn too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715667824},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2732332,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731934
In many areas, it is literally illegal to walk up and down a highway on foot. Pedestrian foot traffic is explicitly illegal. I live in an isolated rural area. it would be illegal for me to try to 'leave' on foot because the only way out are said highways. Of course, if I get on a bike i suddenly become a vehicle and can legally access these same roads but the point still stands.","attachment":null,"posted":1715792210},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2732334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732332
>i refuse to do things because theyre illegal
get rid of this attitude or you will not make it as a hobo
accept you'll get talked to by cops and possibly put in jail for a night, try shit and learn from experience what cops do and don't give a flying fuck about
hint: this one falls firmly into the "they don't" category","attachment":null,"posted":1715792387},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2732415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731694
It has always been like this. Economic conditions have merely forced the woods dwellers out of their habitats and back into their tiny studios, where they are forced to reminisce of the days when they could afford to clock out of work, fuck off into the woods, and re-emerge two days later for the next week.","attachment":null,"posted":1715807277},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2733006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731775
Sounds cool got any stories? I walked south to north a few years ago and had a blast
>>2732332
Ive never had any issues with this, got stopped once by bored cops cause i was walking w traffic and they told me to cross the road and walk on the other side. You sound like a pussy, stay in your cope shed.","attachment":null,"posted":1715967010},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2733075,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731694
>Lately","attachment":null,"posted":1715981378},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2733112,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731577","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715991354713995.jpg","filename":"1711630691897549.jpg"},"posted":1715991354},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2733224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732332
lmao america is dystopian, zero freedom","attachment":null,"posted":1716030843},{"board":"out","thread":2731577,"pid":2733320,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731577
If youre gonna walk, you should walk a long trail. PCT, AT, CDT, arizona trail, florida trail, coloroado trail..etc
Otherwise, look into bike packing.
just beg for money. hold a sign and ask for money. theres no shame being a traveler. its fun","attachment":null,"posted":1716058324}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731596,"pid":2731596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Explain to me why March and April were warmer than May","attachment":null,"posted":1715611900},{"board":"out","thread":2731596,"pid":2731659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731596
Weather patterns are chaotic and variable. How oblivious to reality are you?","attachment":null,"posted":1715618117},{"board":"out","thread":2731596,"pid":2731660,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731659
>How oblivious to reality are you?
he's a frog poster so....","attachment":null,"posted":1715618178},{"board":"out","thread":2731596,"pid":2731698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731596
Yeah ikr and if global warming is real then why the fuck does it still get cold outside in the winter? Checkmate AL Gore","attachment":null,"posted":1715622178},{"board":"out","thread":2731596,"pid":2731708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731596
Cause no other answer than mother nature is a bitch","attachment":null,"posted":1715624598},{"board":"out","thread":2731596,"pid":2731711,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731660
>frog poster
When did this place start hating frogs? That was the start of the end.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715625210828174.jpg","filename":"1651735644649.jpg"},"posted":1715625210},{"board":"out","thread":2731596,"pid":2731750,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731711
When people realized just how fucking stupid FrogTards are/","attachment":null,"posted":1715630084},{"board":"out","thread":2731596,"pid":2731804,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"God I wish I didn’t live in a hot desert","attachment":null,"posted":1715636429}]}
{"title":"gear question","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2731773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"saw or hatchet/axe for outdoor?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715632407888501.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240503_114004263.jpg"},"posted":1715632407},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2731778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731773
Yes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715632715},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2731779,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731773
both","attachment":null,"posted":1715632745},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2731783,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Both if weight isn't an issue.
Hatchet is more versatile. A saw may do what you need for firewood in a pinch, and may be better for precision cuts than a hatchet for bushcraft but a hatchet should do the same stuff with more flexibility for other tasks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715632862},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2731820,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’ve never needed either. and I only ever use my lil knife for cleaning fish, so even that feels like a waste a lot of the time","attachment":null,"posted":1715641104},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2731821,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731773
There was a thread with the same discussion a few weeks ago. The general consensus was that, if you had to choose one, a hatchet is more versatile than a saw.","attachment":null,"posted":1715641137},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2732062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I need a machete. We're not cutting wood, we're fighting for our lives out here!","attachment":null,"posted":1715710074},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2732233,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731821
tips for choosing a nice hatchet?","attachment":null,"posted":1715762726},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2732280,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732233
I've used Estwing Sportsman hatchets for years. They come in different sizes. You can pick one up for around $45.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715779370828265.jpg","filename":"Estwing-Hatchet-Leather-Handle.jpg"},"posted":1715779370},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2732306,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Qiwiz makes a bucksaw, the Lil Buck. It weighs less than 4 oz. and fits in a tyvek envelope. Will cut 6 inch logs but it's best for 3-4 inch wood. The Lil Buck together with a 6 inch knife for splitting dead wood logs equals really easy fires. Used this weekend in Northern Michigan with great results.","attachment":null,"posted":1715787209},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2732307,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hatchet is the best all around for general use. If you want to do bush crafting or need to get through bigger branches or small logs a lightweight folding Japanese pull saw will cut through clean and quicker.","attachment":null,"posted":1715787328},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2732309,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731773
kukri","attachment":null,"posted":1715788204},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2733493,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731773
A saw is way more practical for the kind of camping I do. Find a dead branch, saw it into campfire or stove-sized pieces. The only time a hatchet has come in handy is when I need to split wood in the winter.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716094691460658.jpg","filename":"20231021_145351.jpg"},"posted":1716094691},{"board":"out","thread":2731773,"pid":2733707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731773
Saw is lightweight, and you can carry a few extra blades. Axes allow you to cut big logs faster, and are just fun to use.
Practicality camping: electric handheld saw
Light weight camping: regular saw
Fun camping: big axe
Long distance camping: hatchet (or big knife for batoning)","attachment":null,"posted":1716146714}]}
{"title":"Flower/Plant photo general","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731780,"pid":2731780,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Previous thread >>2721535
hit the image limit","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715632771529415.jpg","filename":"20240512_172721.jpg"},"posted":1715632771},{"board":"out","thread":2731780,"pid":2731782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731780
mushrooms aren't plants...","attachment":null,"posted":1715632861},{"board":"out","thread":2731780,"pid":2731790,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731780
jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous
jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous jealous
>>2731782
Don't tell this to textbooks and field guides before the 70s.","attachment":null,"posted":1715633501},{"board":"out","thread":2731780,"pid":2731796,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731790
And? They're still not plants. Fungi are their own kingdom and are genetically closer to animals than plants. They breathe in oxygen and release CO2. They do not photosynthesize. Spores =/= seeds. Issac newton was wrong about many things that Einstein corrected. We didn't say...well, tell that to the books written in the 1700s.","attachment":null,"posted":1715634611},{"board":"out","thread":2731780,"pid":2731799,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731796
Stop being so autistic about OP not calling this "flower/plant/fungi" general, holy shit.
Fun fact though: some plants do release spores. Horsetail and ferns are underrated. Ain't that neat?","attachment":null,"posted":1715635332},{"board":"out","thread":2731780,"pid":2731812,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731799
Pointing out that OP is a fucking retard for starting a plant thread with a fungus is autistic? You're fucking retarded as well.","attachment":null,"posted":1715638170},{"board":"out","thread":2731780,"pid":2731849,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731796
>We didn't say...well, tell that to the books written in the 1700s.
You didn't, because you have no sense of humor and take everything literally and can't just chill the fuck out for a second to smirk at a stupid joke.","attachment":null,"posted":1715647382},{"board":"out","thread":2731780,"pid":2732369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731782
>>2731812
Fuck you, get skunk cabbaged","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715800704982769.jpg","filename":"20240515_121731.jpg"},"posted":1715800704},{"board":"out","thread":2731780,"pid":2732405,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731812
>nuh uh my big rant isn't autistic, you're retarded!!!
You could win Americas Next Top Autist with talent like that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715805147},{"board":"out","thread":2731780,"pid":2733163,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"this is now a mushie thread","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716003890494709.jpg","filename":"IMG_7135.jpg"},"posted":1716003890}]}
{"title":"west highland way fren hike","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732026,"pid":2732026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Oke so im planning on tackling the west highland way soonish with my bong friend pretty soonish, were going to meet up either in london (if i decide to take the train from the netherlands through belgium and france to england) or in glasgow (where i can take a direct flight) And were wondering if any anons that have done this hike before have any tips to share with total beginners such as us.. :---D and with tips i mean landmarks off of the beaten road that we should visit along the way or stuff that we should/shouldnt do and generally what to expect during the trip. We also wouldnt mind meeting up with other out/chuds, and if youre wondering were both males aged 22","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715700089359162.jpg","filename":"West-Highland-Way-2.jpg"},"posted":1715700089},{"board":"out","thread":2732026,"pid":2732040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"well what me & my mate did was bring a big bottle of whiskey each from glasgow and wildcamp way off the track & get drunk gazing at the mountains every night. was pretty good. bridge of orchy hotel pub is full of cunts. travel early as much as you can, it's much more beautiful then and much higher chance of seeing wildlife. WHW was awesome overall, you're in for a good time. the rocks around lomond can be a bit fucked in bad weather so be careful there. good luck anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715702623},{"board":"out","thread":2732026,"pid":2732098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732040
thanks for tips anon, i dont have any experience drinking alcohol so i think ill keep it at a pint or two at a pub, i am also planning on bringing along some mushrooms along but im no too sure on how safe or smart that is. Do you have any reccomendations for what to do in glasgow, or should i avoid that place like the pest?","attachment":null,"posted":1715720327},{"board":"out","thread":2732026,"pid":2732180,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732026
DONT go to Glasgow, it’s 3rd world - Trainspotting is basically a documentary.
Edinburgh is pretty cool though, there are backckers and genuinely good pubs in the middle of town.
Locals were all pretty friendly. Just follow your nose mate, worked for me.
t. Kiwi spent a bit of time over that way when I was 25.","attachment":null,"posted":1715741200},{"board":"out","thread":2732026,"pid":2732208,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Go slow, you can easily do 40km+ daily on the WhW, but you'll miss out on a lot. Also, take time to appreciate the Caledonian forests along Loch Lomond, I raced through the area because I was laser focused on seeing the true highlands area.","attachment":null,"posted":1715750389},{"board":"out","thread":2732026,"pid":2733023,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732098
I didn't do much in glasgow, just stayed the night there so we could start early the next day. it's not as phenomenally shit as e.g. >>2732180 suggest, more or less just your typical run down UK city.
>>2732208
I think this is good advice. absolutely no point rushing. if I ever do it again I will go a lot slower. you may meet people who look down on you for not doing e.g. 30 mile days every day. if so ignore them, they're autistic.","attachment":null,"posted":1715969225},{"board":"out","thread":2732026,"pid":2733839,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732180
>trainspotting is a documentary
trainspotting is set in Edinburgh you dumb faggot, Glasgow is one of the few UK cities that hasn't completely gone to the dogs and still has a slither of sovl","attachment":null,"posted":1716164255},{"board":"out","thread":2732026,"pid":2734248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Go to the pub at Beinglas Farm (The Stagger Inn)
>Many pubs / hotels have outdoor taps with free drinking water
>There are long sections of Loch Lomond with no taps, it’s also not that advisable to drink water coming down the hills because of agricultural run-off that can’t be filtered (carry extra water when you leave Drymen)
>The showers + toilets at Kingshouse are free to use
>The Devil’s Staircase is fine, the climb out of Kinlochleven is a pain
>Bring blister packs, even if you’re not prone to blisters (long stretches on old military roads = tough on feet)
>Don’t camp on the flat area near the river at Bridge of Orchy (or you’ll wake up in midgie hell)","attachment":null,"posted":1716243249},{"board":"out","thread":2732026,"pid":2734521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734248
Genuinely useful and informed advice.
Only thing I would add is that Kingshouse does not stock much "real" food- yes there is a shop there but it's very advisable to stock up in advance if you are wild camping. You can also get restaurant food there, but in my experience it's quite expensive and not very good.
>>2733839
OK anon, but let's not get ahead of ourselves and start saying that Glasgow is
>actually good
or anything mental like that :)","attachment":null,"posted":1716310732}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2731965,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">gives 10 hour lecture about ancestors and being in touch with nature and feeling the spirits and energies
>drops out after 24 hours
lmao","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715687962592268.jpg","filename":"34453534.jpg"},"posted":1715687962},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2731976,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"wow great thread OP!","attachment":null,"posted":1715691842},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2731986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731965
>wake up
>shit
>get out of sleeping bag
>commit poaching crime on camera
>go home and continue resenting parents for being better outdoorsmen","attachment":null,"posted":1715694347},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2731987,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731965
If you put me outtadoors 1,000+ miles from the woods I live in, and told me to survive I'd be fairly useless. If you put me 200 miles away I think I could be pretty capable. If I had to survive in the woods I live in, I honestly think I could go indefinitely until I got some kind of bad infection etc.
It's all about knowing the plants.","attachment":null,"posted":1715694911},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2731994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731987
>It's all about knowing the plants.
Not being a white guy with dreadlocks probably also helps.","attachment":null,"posted":1715695696},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732031,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731965
No idea who that is but it must be exhausting with 2 kg of extra hair. Bad gear nigga.","attachment":null,"posted":1715701013},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731965
adult men who still wear le insecure teenager hats are not to be trusted. an adult man shouldnt need to wear a hat in general until its 20 degrees F or colder, 100% of men who wear a hat at temperatures warmer than this will transition within 5 years","attachment":null,"posted":1715715693},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732080,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732077
Hats/caps are generally fine outdoors- however you are correct about THAT hat (not even to mention the elephant in the room aka the hair). A straw hat is a life saver in the hot summer sun.","attachment":null,"posted":1715715919},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732077
Go /out/side","attachment":null,"posted":1715716414},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732089
Look autism aside, they look stupid and dirty. They have become linked or associated with a certain type of white person. Doper hippie try-hard poser etc. (I'm struggling to come up with the exact words to get across what they suggest but you get the idea). Anyways it isn't good and it is indeed a meaningful profiling tool.","attachment":null,"posted":1715717657},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732093
>other people exist and this upsets me","attachment":null,"posted":1715728044},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732077
tell me you don't go /out/ without telling me you don't go /out/. I never leave home without my hat, whether it's to protect me from cold, the sun, or rain, it's always useful.
As far as muh adult men goes, it wasn't so long ago that a man would never leave home without his hat. It's modern day soft city boys who never learned about being a man from their single mothers who started the trend of not wearing a hat.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715733888959754.jpg","filename":"1696326258988724.jpg"},"posted":1715733888},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732155,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732154
>whether it's to protect me from cold, the sun, or rain, it's always useful.
Or to keep bugs out of your hair. Fucking blackflies","attachment":null,"posted":1715733949},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732156,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732077
Hats are for sun protection and catching webs.","attachment":null,"posted":1715734517},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732089
>>2732127
dreds are disgusting and smell like rotten ass & stale piss","attachment":null,"posted":1715741066},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732181,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732154","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715741727604713.jpg","filename":"images (5).jpg"},"posted":1715741727},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732182,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732179
Don't go round sniffing a hippied hair then you absolute cretin","attachment":null,"posted":1715741804},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732185,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732182
i try not to, but like blacks, their smell leaves a 50ft trail across the aisles at walmart
its quite astonishing how its possible","attachment":null,"posted":1715742583},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732195,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732154
Ironically the hat you posted is exactly the type of poser hat that won't protect you from anything and larpers from the lower 48 wear to make themselves feel like rugged bush men while they scurry around a section of woods between two highways and 5 km from a suburb","attachment":null,"posted":1715747139},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732206,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732195
NTA but I've never seen someone wearing a Tam o 'Shanter outside of festival events/Tartan Day, and I bet you haven't either","attachment":null,"posted":1715749420},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732209,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731986
That was the other dreadlocked white dude, from Alone US. This is a different chode from Alone Australia Season 1","attachment":null,"posted":1715750476},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732212,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't watch these show but how bad can it be to stay out there for at least 4 days? Even the most inexperienced with 5 or 10 C's can manage to shelter and keep hydrated EVEN if they don't eat for days. Seems like mind over matter thing to me.","attachment":null,"posted":1715751232},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732217,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732209
Right you are. One shitty wannabe survivalist is much like another, kek","attachment":null,"posted":1715754960},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732243,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731965
most experts you watch especially on youtube set out specifically to become experts, many simply popped out of nowhere making "expert videos" and "expert reactions" with no background as experts themselves. this is common in every interest since the dawn of social media
what does this mean? superficial knowledge, no depth, no real world experience and probably a lot of followers that fuck themselves up listening to their advice","attachment":null,"posted":1715769263},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732244,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731965
Is this some TV show","attachment":null,"posted":1715769390},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732195
>the type of poser hat that won't protect you from anything
It will keep your head warm, keep bugs out of your hair, and protect you from the rain. Moreover, it simply looks good.
Sounds like you're dealing with a lot of insecurity there. I wear what I like, and you should too. Why are you so concerned with how other people perceive you? The only types of people who get worked up over the hat choices of other strangers are losers like you who never actually go out to begin with.","attachment":null,"posted":1715775588},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732273,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731965
>The Virgin Indigenous Native
vs
>The Chad Swede Fitness Model
Imagine trying to hit all your DEI targets and your prized woke balloon quits on day one. And they brought the dudes wife back for season two just to see her quit in 3 days.
Only thanks to a mysterious night wallaby did they manage to get a woman to win S1.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715776255413388.jpg","filename":"1800x2400-Template-51.jpg"},"posted":1715776255},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732270
I mean we're constantly put upon by the gaze of others, that's pretty much a universal issue for humans. we hate it and yet we also crave it. people pretending they don't care are generally deceiving themselves. in fact look up the 'social intelligence hypothesis'- it's quite likely that a large part of our intelligence evolved specifically to keep track of how others see us.","attachment":null,"posted":1715777424},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732279,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732277
>constantly put upon by the gaze of others
>we hate it and yet we also crave it
Stop posting your high-school poetry projects here.
Also NTA but I don't think it's a universal human experience, especially /out/doors. I think some people are more prone to judging others for their looks, especially the over-socialized urbanites.
But besides that, he dresses a certain way because he knows he'll be on TV and thousands will be looking at him. He wants to portray himself a certain way to the masses. We've had the same types in other seasons with various people reducing themselves to caricatures (hippies, hardasses and everything in between).","attachment":null,"posted":1715778841},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732315,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732277
There's a difference between being aware that people are judging you based on what you wear, and actively altering your appearance in order to appeal to some imagined group of people who you want to win the approval of. If you don't like wearing hats, that's fine. If you like wearing hats but don't because some autist on 4chan said it makes you a poo poo head then you're about as mentally mature as a teenage girl.
I wear whatever he fuck I want for any reason I want. If someone doesn't like my style, they have bad taste. Simple as. You think I'm going to lose sleep over some acne ridden basement dweller who thinks my hat is for "larping"? Say it to my face faggot. No one ever has, and no one ever will.","attachment":null,"posted":1715789984},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732316,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732279
reasonable criticism.
it's something we've evolved to do. everyone does it to varying degrees, it's nonadaptive not to do it. you're right that some do it more than others, though rather than urbanites doing it more I think they do it based on different (more socially shifted) criteria- e.g. how much your shoes cost or who else is wearing them, vs how suitable they are for the task at hand.","attachment":null,"posted":1715789995},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732329,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732089
dreadlocks are peak consumerism bullshit. in a survival situation its objectively better to have an easier to manage hairstyle that doesnt literally bog you down and drain your calories. its like having super long fingernails because you never leave your house and never do any physical labor. it is completely detrimental to your situation to have those physical features.","attachment":null,"posted":1715791622},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732337,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732089
White people generally wash/comb/cut their hair, anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715793265},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732316
That's fair, and I guess it does differ from social circle to circle. "Who else wears them" is for women and "how much clothes cost" is for the local hoodlums. Ratty, unwashed pants wouldn't strike me as weird on the trail the same way flip-flops would. I wouldn't dwell on it any more than a "huh, odd" though.
I do still think urbanites are more prone to this behavior, not only because they have more people around them but also because they busy themselves more with fashion. It's a way of existing that focuses more on looks, and the way you look to others.","attachment":null,"posted":1715798809},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732077
It is probably the only style of hat that would fit over his shitlocks","attachment":null,"posted":1715802393},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2732740,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732077
so I’m not allowed to wear a cowboy hat to keep me shaded when its triple digits because it would make me gay or something?","attachment":null,"posted":1715886256},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2733146,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732740
pretty sure you were gay before you donned the hat anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715999420},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2733180,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732077
i'm with you on ppl that wear faghats for fashion, but wearing a hat outdoors is basically required to not have the skin of a 70 year old when you turn 40.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716007395980463.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1716007395},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2733197,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731994
Why are whites with dreadlocks such insufferable douchebags","attachment":null,"posted":1716013262},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2733199,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733197
>why are people without jobs such insufferable douchebags
you answered your own question","attachment":null,"posted":1716014930},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2733232,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733199
Pretty sure he's a Paid Professional Protester though. Or maybe it's just that half the protester's you see look exactly like him.","attachment":null,"posted":1716034626},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2734045,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"this thread is pure autism","attachment":null,"posted":1716212619},{"board":"out","thread":2731965,"pid":2734088,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732127
That's the theme of this board, yes.","attachment":null,"posted":1716218062}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2731916,"pid":2731916,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Are you excited for the warmer weather /out/ :3 ?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715659857852953.jpg","filename":"lemon poppyseed muffin.jpg"},"posted":1715659857},{"board":"out","thread":2731916,"pid":2731927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731916
yes, snow is finally starting to melt above the tree line so now I can convince my friends to come on hikes with me","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715664517427478.jpg","filename":"lilfuckers.jpg"},"posted":1715664517},{"board":"out","thread":2731916,"pid":2732246,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731927
For some reason I haven't had a tick in years and I live pretty much innawoods","attachment":null,"posted":1715769705},{"board":"out","thread":2731916,"pid":2732276,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731916
Imagine not feeling shit on your skin.","attachment":null,"posted":1715776816},{"board":"out","thread":2731916,"pid":2732322,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732246
Tick concentration is location dependent.
I work innawoods building a trail and most of my tick encounters were simply at the edge of wood lines rather in the deep of the forests.
>>2732276
Imagine not feeling ticks on your poppy seed muffin.","attachment":null,"posted":1715791015},{"board":"out","thread":2731916,"pid":2733008,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Was doing yardwork naked yesterday. Stopped to enjoy a fire and drink a beer, found a tick in my chest hair so i threw it in the flames","attachment":null,"posted":1715967142},{"board":"out","thread":2731916,"pid":2733015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731927
>my friends
some day :(","attachment":null,"posted":1715967755}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732131,"pid":2732131,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"2 questions
Does anyone else here use the app iNaturalist to search for plants, animals, fungi etc
And
What GPS device can I use to punch in co-ordinates that won't run out of reception half way there like a smartphone?
I need to enter a latitude and longitude into a device and for it to tell me when I'm exactly there no matter how isolated the area is.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715729428967012.jpg","filename":"image_6483441-3.jpg"},"posted":1715729428},{"board":"out","thread":2732131,"pid":2732136,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732131
I use inat but have never used it to find anything like what you seem to be interested in.
>What GPS device can I use to punch in co-ordinates that won't run out of reception half way there like a smartphone?
Your smartphone should have gps anywhere regardless of your reception. I use gaia but it's paid only. I'd look for a free as in freedom app, it might be hard to use but won't have bullshit like locking you out of using it when you're without reception. Bear in mind gps accuracy is often only to around 100ft or so depending on what people use when uploading to inat. You should just aim for the vicinity and then look.","attachment":null,"posted":1715730510},{"board":"out","thread":2732131,"pid":2732139,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732136
Smartphones have gps but to load the webpage again if you accidently click out of the specific page you need phone reception/ internet to load the page again. I have seen people use a dedicated gps device to reach lat and long coords","attachment":null,"posted":1715730967},{"board":"out","thread":2732131,"pid":2732681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732131
I use books.
Plan ID is significantly more involved than just looking at pictures.
Also, iNaturalist is shit for trees or anything bigger than a shrub and it is mostly for home gardens and imported species.
...
If you need exact location a smart phone is almost the worst option you could go with. You're way better off getting a dedicated GPS--even off the used market--than using a smartphone if you need a grid location.","attachment":null,"posted":1715875476}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732111,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Despite being known for rainforests, most of the region of the Pacific Northwest on the windward side of the Cascade mountains is surprisingly dry during the summer, specifically. By the end of August, the undergrowth foliage is thinner, and brown grass is common.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715723446215748.jpg","filename":"1200x0.jpg"},"posted":1715723446},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732114,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732111
its the beavers.","attachment":null,"posted":1715723652},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732140,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732111
We have mountains on the peninsula that the puget lowlands are on the leeward side of. Once you get south of them it gets much wetter. There are areas that are very dry and balmy from the rainshadow. Once you get ON the west cascades you get a lot more rain, practically a rainforest in areas, but not as much as the windward side of the olympics.","attachment":null,"posted":1715731157},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732400,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732140
Where are some unexpectedly wet areas of Washington? I'd like to explore more of the state and I prefer forests to desert.","attachment":null,"posted":1715804672},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732400
Can't beat the windward side of the Olympics. Check out the Hoh Rainforest. It's a long drive and popular this time of year though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715806236},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732111
>on the windward side of the Cascade mountains
thats hardly the "northwest" anyone who lives on the coast calls that the interior","attachment":null,"posted":1715818299},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732481,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732111
the san juan islands and canadian gulf islands are practically a tropical paradise","attachment":null,"posted":1715818441},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732111
200 years of deforestation and massive filling of wetlands (all across the west coast not just Washington) have appreciably changed the weather.
Washington used to have a much longer rainy season and a much wetter summer but that's all changed appreciably in the last 30 years--we now have a dry season and a wet season. The Olympic peninsula is already dangerously close to drougt season and droughts and dry seasons are much more common now than they've ever been in recorded history.
Thanks logging cartels, garbage urban planning and zero stormwater treatment.","attachment":null,"posted":1715876153},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732754,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732685
Ahhh yes cutting down trees has changed the way the Pacific Ocean builds weather systems.","attachment":null,"posted":1715889249},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732756,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i love westport","attachment":null,"posted":1715889809},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732987,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732685
>massive filling of wetlands
ugh, the amount of indian mansions built up on marshlands here is ridiculous. they claim they are growing blueberries but how many blueberries can you really sell these days. anyway they all complain when the spring freshet floods over the dykes since this used to be a floodplain and its just like are you retarded, this is how nature intended and youre fighting against something immensly more powerful than you or however much money you think you can throw at it","attachment":null,"posted":1715961482},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2732996,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732685
>>2732987
i sure it has nothing to do with a 2° temperature change in the last 100yrs lol
https://statesummaries.ncics.org/chapter/wa/","attachment":null,"posted":1715964022},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2733001,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732754
Trees create rain and act as climate buffers--this isn't even debated among people who study climate and weather. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about and are very stupid but creating clouds and making rain are part of a cycle that covers land and see--even children learn this, I guess not you though.
>>2732996
I don't trust those measurements. You don't need to include 5% temperature variations to show that deforestation significantly impacts weather patterns.","attachment":null,"posted":1715965376},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2733007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732996
It could easily be both, did you consider that?
>>2732754
Honestly I always admire people that can charge in and be so confident. I also genuinely appreciate how succinctly you've made your point. That said you are wrong. For instance, here is the wikipedia article discussing it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_and_climate_change","attachment":null,"posted":1715967104},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2733025,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733007
>climate change is only due to local factors
no I havent considered that because im not retarded.
>>2733001
>I don't trust those measurements
so you just make up your own data? lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715969314},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2733027,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733001
Sure whatever, but you do realize that the timber companies go ahead and plant trees back to harvest in 30 years or whatever right? I fly over all the timber land all the time... it's all trees, not empty plots. It's not like they are magically turning their property into voids of desert.
Regardless of whatever science you have to support your position, it's a small factor compared to what the ocean is doing. You can argue on a grand scale forestry and construction affect the oceans but the ocean is way more dominant than the local factors.","attachment":null,"posted":1715969492},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2733037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733025
ok
>>2733027
ah, but not all forest is the same. for example water collects less efficiently and is lost much faster from plantation forests. so you're right that large scale weather patterns are more affected by the oceans, but when you're thinking about the actual water relations on the ground, vegetation structure matters a lot.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715972056773877.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-17 213717.png"},"posted":1715972056},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2733038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733037
Sure, a new-growth forest isn't the same as an old-growth forest, and that'll have varying affects on local flora/fauna and water retention and kinds of environment. These are however local effects. You see far more impact from weather systems moving in from the ocean and colliding with geographic masses causing orographic effects like lifting up mountains, or around the olympics creating the puget sound convergence zone.
If I dump a bucket of water on some grass, I don't say the grass caused the bucket of water, even if the shade caused by the grass keeps the water from evaporating.","attachment":null,"posted":1715972770},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2733047,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733038
I think we may be talking at cross purposes.
>>2732685
>>2733001
I would be interested to read some stats for this specifically discussing logging in the PNW. I have found many sources discussing how logging in the amazon can strongly affect weather systems elsewhere, but very little from elsewhere.","attachment":null,"posted":1715974037},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2734143,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732111
Topography. Rainfall picks up to 25-40 inches again in north Idaho and NW Montana and on E WA/OR mountains (eg Wallowa Whitman OR and Spokane Mt WA). Just like it does in Arizona and Utah after the jet stream passes over dry Nevada and the Sonoran desert. After clouds dump rain via orographic lift they tend to gain enough elevation so as to lower rainfall on the leeward side of the ranges until they encounter similar elevation ranges again further east. And even despite that, the Palouse is one of the most productive dryland farming wheat growing zones in North America and has been since before my grandfathers' time (1930s). According to him in WW2 the region had a farming boom due to the price of wheat doubling from great depression to the start of the US involvement in the war and a transition from horses to mechanization, golden hills as far as the eye could see back then.","attachment":null,"posted":1716227198},{"board":"out","thread":2732111,"pid":2734150,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734143
Oh and also as to the windward sides seasonal mediterranean pattern of precipitation, this is due to the pacific jetstream (the mother jetstream of all of North America) dipping south during the North American monsoon in July and August, leaving those months as often the driest of the year in the PNW and the wettest of the year in places like AZ, NM and UT. Also smaller coastal ranges again will catch huge portions of the precipitation and leave valleys on the leeward side of them relatively dry. Another example of this is the OR coast ranges which get 60-120 inches of precipitation, while more inland protected valleys like Portland get only 30-40 inches tops, until it picks up again on the windward cascades.","attachment":null,"posted":1716227645}]}
{"title":"Camping toothpaste and bears/cougars","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'll be wild camping in a place on the border of mountain lion ranges but it's very common for them to wander into the area I'll be.
I'm not bringing any food since I plan to eat fish. So the only odor shit I'll have is toothpaste. So should I bring baking soda? Does that have any smell affect on mountain lions? I'm not going to be in grizzly country so mountain lions are the main concern.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715802288642306.jpg","filename":"Mountain_Lion_in_Glacier_National_Park.jpg"},"posted":1715802288},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732393,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732383
You will not be attacked by a mountain lion.","attachment":null,"posted":1715803163},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732412,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732383
I wouldn't worry about it. Just keep it in a double set of zip locks and you'll be fine. Typically they won't go for anything if you (and preferably some extra buddies) are around. Just make sure that if you're fishing, you don't get the guts on your clothes or gear, since that definitely will draw them.
>>2732393
He isn't asking about defense. He's asking about them rummaging through his shit, which is a real and common concern. You'd know this if you went outside.","attachment":null,"posted":1715806658},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732412
>which is a real and common concern.
No it isn't. Maybe if you abandon your campsite, but if people are there, cougars won't be.","attachment":null,"posted":1715806780},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732383
It's well known that Bears and Mountain Lions can smell toothpaste from well over a mile away. I wouldn't take my chances.","attachment":null,"posted":1715807299},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732432,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732416
>>2732383
Just bring whiskey instead.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715809726919352.jpg","filename":"buffalo trace.jpg"},"posted":1715809726},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732444,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You are also in moose territory, while food will not necessarily attract them they are far more dangerous than a mountain lion. In my opinion more dangerous than a brown bear as well. No thanks to seeing a moose on the trail up close.","attachment":null,"posted":1715811718},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732468,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"M8 you fucken stink to a wild animal regardless of what you've got in your backpack.","attachment":null,"posted":1715816804},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732444
It’s hard to believe that mad lads bow hunt those Goliaths. A pissed off moose is menacing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715827604},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732534,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Unless they are rabid, cougars don't really give a shit about you and will avoid you. I got caught between my truck and front door with a cat crossing my yard about 15 feet away. He gave me that creepy witch screaming hiss thing they do. My nuts were in my throat, but he turned and walked off. Hiking I've seen a few in the trees and they just eyeball you. Baking soda is a good choice anyway.","attachment":null,"posted":1715831255},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732539,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732383
Why bring toothpaste? Just use the brush, floss, and water if you are paranoid.","attachment":null,"posted":1715832240},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732733,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732383
black bears are a far bigger worry for smellables storage. I’m assuming there would be some because generally the ranges overlap. mountain lions do not give a fuck about our food, or us in general.
BUT i would not care at all about toothpaste. I never put that shit or my chapsticks or sunscreen or whatever other non-food smellables in a bear can or anything. preventing access to any smellables is really only an issue in places with serious bear problems, like campground in national parks in the sierras.
far more of a concern is any of your cooking/eating stuff that has fish smell, but again way more of a concern for bears than mountain lions.
ultimately I’ve never known anyone to take precautions for mountain lions, only bears.","attachment":null,"posted":1715885551},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732444
How is a moose dangerous? Just stand behind a tree?","attachment":null,"posted":1715893776},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732786,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732773
>ends statements with question marks
>woman logic
Checks out","attachment":null,"posted":1715895385},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2732824,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732412
>I wouldn't worry about it.
yeah ok i know what you're up to","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715906694111252.gif","filename":"1484872934643.gif"},"posted":1715906694},{"board":"out","thread":2732383,"pid":2733317,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732383
Way better to bring your own vac sealed de-hydrated meals than fish freshly caught.
The fish oils will persist. Chili mac with water aroma flees.
Good luck avoiding critters, anon. You'll need the luck.","attachment":null,"posted":1716057552}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732214,"pid":2732214,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hi /out/. I humbly seek feedback on new gear acquisition. It has been many years since ive done anything outdoors related. I got stuck in my city after covid and never made a real attempt to change that until now. I have done one overnight backpacking trip years ago along with previous camping. I want to get back into backpacking, camping and thru hiking. My short term goal is to do various day trips and get comfortable with overnight stuff. My ultimate goal is to survive in the wild for up to two weeks. I live in the southwest. Im willing to spend more upfront for gear that will last a long time in nearly every weather condition.
Shelter:
Tent
>Durston X Mid 2
Sleeping bag
>Nemo forte
Sleeping pad
>nemo tensor extreme
Food:
>Pathfinder M40 cook set
>alcohol stove
>canister stove
>homemade MREs and camping meals
Water:
>sawyer squeeze
>sawyer one gallon gravity bag
>canteens
>camelback
Fire:
>cheap ferro rod
>lighter
>cotton balls with vaseline
Aside from this I plan on getting sunjack solar panels and power banks with their light stick. I need to get other various things like clothing, a backpack, knives, first aid kit, multitool, navigation etc. I also want to learn skills like fishing, hunting and trapping for small game. Specifically rabbits and quail.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715751623963909.png","filename":"XCpBjO4UBy.png"},"posted":1715751623},{"board":"out","thread":2732214,"pid":2732223,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Sounds like you're more prepared than most people who come here. Good work mate go get it done.","attachment":null,"posted":1715758877},{"board":"out","thread":2732214,"pid":2732227,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732214
I can only think of a few bits that you might want.
>sponge. for condensation/desert water collection
>tin pot. for charcloth making/storage
>salt. for electrolytes
>wire, line/hooks and paracord. hunting, fishing respectively
>duct tape. for repairs","attachment":null,"posted":1715760932},{"board":"out","thread":2732214,"pid":2732232,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm in a similar boat, gone on plenty of day trips but now planning more overnights. You learn a lot from experience, you will make mistakes no matter how much you plan so it's important to just get out. Couple of things I learned:
>don't bring overly dry food or food that can go stale (like bread), this will make you more thirsty
>bring some fresh fruit, you'd be surprised how amazing it is to have an apple or orange on a long day
>bring extra water for your first few trips, it will be heavier but you will quickly learn how much water you need
>don't underestimate how cold or sunny it can get, i'd recommend bringing less total clothes but more that you can mix/layer together to avoid freezing your ass like i did a couple of times, or getting sun burn because you didn't bring a hat/long sleeves
I just ordered the x-mid as well. One problem I had with my previous pole tent was sliding around so much because of plastic pads on plastic floors on plastic footprints etc. Would recommend either bringing a very thin layer of eva foam to put under your sleeping pad to stop it sliding around or what I did was apply stripes of seam sealer to the underside of my sleeping pad.","attachment":null,"posted":1715762643},{"board":"out","thread":2732214,"pid":2732367,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732223
>>2732227
>>2732232
Thanks anons, much appreciated","attachment":null,"posted":1715800149},{"board":"out","thread":2732214,"pid":2733490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732214
sunscreen","attachment":null,"posted":1716094370},{"board":"out","thread":2732214,"pid":2734367,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"REI has a big sale so I was able to get some of these on a discount","attachment":null,"posted":1716265135},{"board":"out","thread":2732214,"pid":2734498,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732214
Pretty solid kit, I would just say be open to a hot tent too. My first set was a regular tent but I had experience with hot tents in the Marines. Pretty quick I changed over to a titanium wood stove and hot tent. Gave me extra control over the internal temperature and the option to cook inside (fantastic when you are in a fly-riddled area). It's also nice using the wood stove + folding saw for infinite fuel.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716306993374101.png","filename":"6436.png"},"posted":1716306993},{"board":"out","thread":2732214,"pid":2734552,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732214
My best suggestion is to resist the urge to overpack. I carry one stove, two lighters, one high-walled frying pan & one long spoon. One sawyer squeeze and a separate gallon reservoir. One good knife, no multitool, few bits of duct tape & cord for fixes. After a trip, inventory what you didn't use and leave it behind the next time. Exceptions are emergency items: warm clothes, compass, mirror, trauma kit.
I lost my knife mid-trip once & made it the last few days using granite flakes to clean fish. You find ways to make do.","attachment":null,"posted":1716314280}]}
{"title":"mountain thread","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732435,"pid":2732435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"so i was just reading about how Mount Mckinley is the biggest mountain in the world base to summit because everest and several others bases are super high above sea level. what other mountains would be the tallest this way (obviously not that hawaiian silly shit thats underwater) as a hiker the height base to summit is alot more important than just plain altitude","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715810487893474.jpg","filename":"denalibiggerthaneverest.jpg"},"posted":1715810487},{"board":"out","thread":2732435,"pid":2732439,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732435
>a hiker the height base to summit is alot more important than just plain altitude
This is kinda true but not entirely. As there is a huge physical difference between hiking at 6000m and hiking at 8000m.
Also most Denali climbers cheat and fly into the glacier basecamp at 7000ft elevation instead of approaching purely on foot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715810892},{"board":"out","thread":2732435,"pid":2732441,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732439
yeah i understand the oxygen part is what makes everest so difficult and other super high altitude peaks","attachment":null,"posted":1715811447},{"board":"out","thread":2732435,"pid":2732460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"> as a hiker the height base to summit is alot more important than just plain altitude
spoken like someone who has never experienced the difference in going up 2000m when starting from 0, 2000, 4000, or 6000m. 0 to 2000m shares nothing in common with 6000 to 8000 or 7000 to 8800. there's a reason 8000m+ is called the death zone. just being there will kill an average person in a few minutes, and even for the fittest people you get about 24 hours before you die from lack of oxygen.","attachment":null,"posted":1715815171},{"board":"out","thread":2732435,"pid":2732466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Tallest mountain is in Hawaii under the sea and the difference between being under the sea and being 10000 ft above it is huge. You clearly have not been under the sea.","attachment":null,"posted":1715816634},{"board":"out","thread":2732435,"pid":2732476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732466
Fuck the sea","attachment":null,"posted":1715817663},{"board":"out","thread":2732435,"pid":2734275,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732476
Fuck ya mudda","attachment":null,"posted":1716248270},{"board":"out","thread":2732435,"pid":2734323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732439
Most Everest approaches start at even higher elevation than 2000m, some of the base towns are higher than 2000m. Elevation is not everything (it isn't unimportant either), there are world class technical climbs below 20k ft (even below 15k ft) all over the world, and elsewhere in Alaska itself. For example the most prominent mountain in the world by topographic relief immediately from sea level to its peak that is visible from the sea is also in Alaska, Mount Saint Elias, from sea to peak it rises its full 18,000 feet in less than 11 miles as the crow flies. Elias beats out several other peaks of the Andes in sea to peak climb directly and is acknowledged as having the most relief of any peak on Earth within the shortest distance (within 10 nautical miles, some of the Andean ones are 20 nautical miles from the sea and have subranges in front of them, blocking their view from the sea). Some people also will not be able to acclimate to even 15,000 feet well at all, and technically anything over about 3k m (10,000 ft) can cause potentially dangerous mountain sickness in some individuals, even with acclimatization. People living above 4k m in the Andes and the Tibetan plateau and Nepal are literally built different, smaller frames and significantly more efficient blood oxygen utilization.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716255842624941.png","filename":"Saint Elias from the sea.png"},"posted":1716255842},{"board":"out","thread":2732435,"pid":2734338,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732435
Are you chuldpilled? It's Denali, not McKinley.","attachment":null,"posted":1716259006},{"board":"out","thread":2732435,"pid":2734351,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734338
Yeah, Denali is the better name. Sounds cooler and literally means 'the tall one' vs. the name of a man who never even went to Alaska.","attachment":null,"posted":1716261428}]}
{"title":"brussels urbex","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2732447,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"hey /out/
so,me and my friends are about to have our finals so we thought it would be a great idea to do something stupid before going back to studying 24/7
we wanted to do a great urbex so if some of you guys know some great urbex spots/scary places to go explore in brussels and it’s periphery it’d be great!
im ready to trade infos about other places we found in exchange of whatever urbex/place you have!
thanks","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715812491918320.png","filename":"IMG_7120.png"},"posted":1715812491},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2732895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732447
As far as Brussels unfortunately I can't help you because I live in Wisconsin... but do post photos please. I like scary places.","attachment":null,"posted":1715927306},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2732935,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732447
Break into the NAVO HQ. I heard it's pretty cool.","attachment":null,"posted":1715940040},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733646,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732447
No offence m8, I've never been to Bruxlles however as a citizen of the EU I feel obligated to say this:
I hope that you organize a urbex in the European Parliament with your muslim fundamentalist buddies and so what muslims do best.... The EU wants to conserve nature and that is a noble goal, however they want to restrict citizens access to said nature and they actively invest in cucked technology that tracks people in the woods. They hate the thought of WILD nature, they want everything curated, measured and surveyed.
I hate the technocratic establishment of that cucked mussel slurping, potato frying, chocolate decorating country of yours.
From the bottom of my heart,
Carpathiananon","attachment":null,"posted":1716138918},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733649,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733646
Stfu and don't make this about politics you disgusting nigger.
It's just coincidence that this anon is from Brussels, it has nothing to do with your eastern European inferiority complex about getting buckbroken by fascist Muslim globohomos of the European Parliament.
Get over it Ivan.","attachment":null,"posted":1716139428},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733649
Stay out of this, ami
I only talked bout the convergence of politics and the outdoors, which is allowed. Some time ago there even was a forest janny hate thread.
>eastern European inferiority complex
Regarding what? Are we inferior in all capitalist-liberal metrics? Sure, that's not a complex it is objective reality.
Though having a private hike in western Europe is impossible... too many people, no wild nature. So from that perspective, EE is objectively superior.
Enjoy the outdoors ami, don't give these fucking pencil-pushers a fucking inch.","attachment":null,"posted":1716139879},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733660,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733659
>tell me you've never been /out/ in western Europe without telling me you've never been /out/ in western Europe","attachment":null,"posted":1716139962},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733664,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733660
I currently live in the Black Forest so....","attachment":null,"posted":1716140141},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733666,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733659
>having a private hike in western Europe is impossible... too many people, no wild nature
if you have an iq below room temperature, yeah sure","attachment":null,"posted":1716140254},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733666
I mean it is true, even on a work day you are going to meet a bunch of people here. Going on a trail on weekends guarantees that you'll meet at least 100 loud germs.
The amount of roads and paths in the woods here is so dense that you literally can't get lost, just look through google maps on satellite view... It is not comparable to the Carpathians.","attachment":null,"posted":1716140556},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733673
Heck, they even have asphalted bike paths in the woods.... asphalt in the fucking woods, for a bike path. If you call that wild, then buddy return to your pod and munch on some cricket bars.","attachment":null,"posted":1716140641},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733675
>Ivan stumbles drunkenly in a park and is shocked by it's level of maintenance
Next time try to go outside of the city if you want to experience nature, maybe?","attachment":null,"posted":1716141164},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732447
belgian anon here. There isn't much urbex to do in Brussels itself besides trashed and graffitied houses or spots. At the end of the day it's the capital which needs more and more housing. I suggest you go to the Liège abandoned factory (the famous one), although I don't know it's current state. It's being demolished slowly so idc how much is left. I spent a whole day there just exploring and climbing ontop of chimneys.
You could also to the charleroi cooling tower, but I again can't give you any because I haven't been there in a while.
My point is: go to the the poor's region (Wallonië) and urbex is pretty ease","attachment":null,"posted":1716141920},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2733715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733673
guess how many people i met here","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716147725794081.jpg","filename":"IMG-20230819-WA0006.jpg"},"posted":1716147725},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2734015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733673
>even on a work day you are going to meet a bunch of people here. Going on a trail on weekends guarantees that you'll meet at least 100 loud germs.
you sound like a room temperature iq that goes to the top 10 google searches","attachment":null,"posted":1716207491},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2734018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734015
it's crazy how localized the hiking crowds are, at any given day you can have a trail with hundreds of people on it while another one that 10km away is completely empty just because it doesn't appear on online guides and instagram posts","attachment":null,"posted":1716207904},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2734022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732447
The Church infront of gare de boisfort, you'll have to enter through the roof using the scaffolding outside though. The abandoned power plant in Charleroi, and the countless abandoned subway stations there are amazing and worth the day trip.
Also If you are into leftist/alternative circles, there are lots of squat houses where they organizes party. Went to a rave a few years back in a huge abandoned police station in Evere.","attachment":null,"posted":1716208849},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2734032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732447
try this site Many places are referenced on
https://urbexology.com/","attachment":null,"posted":1716210839},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2734036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732447
Do you have any advice on finding abandoned places?","attachment":null,"posted":1716211040},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2734082,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734036
word of mouth, online, walking around and saving places where you come across abandoned shit for later","attachment":null,"posted":1716216220},{"board":"out","thread":2732447,"pid":2734109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734018
>trails","attachment":null,"posted":1716221893}]}
{"title":"Roast my potatoes","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732426,"pid":2732426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"/out/ told me my potato patch sucks, you said it needed more compost. out btfo","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715808679853207.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240515-162930~2.png"},"posted":1715808679},{"board":"out","thread":2732426,"pid":2732434,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732426
You know you have to "hill" them, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1715810412},{"board":"out","thread":2732426,"pid":2732446,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I still say you need more compost.","attachment":null,"posted":1715811898},{"board":"out","thread":2732426,"pid":2732453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732434
been hilled twice, i planted them in furrows
>>2732446
they are planted in 50% oak leaves faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1715814534},{"board":"out","thread":2732426,"pid":2732459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732453
I don't think you're supposed to stop hilling them but what do I know.","attachment":null,"posted":1715814975},{"board":"out","thread":2732426,"pid":2732461,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732459
they are kennebec potatoes and a Norwegian told me it was pointless to hill them anyway","attachment":null,"posted":1715815425},{"board":"out","thread":2732426,"pid":2732810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Last years (i think) at a trailer in florida. The roaches made fine fertilizer","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715901964449897.jpg","filename":"20230428_180459.jpg"},"posted":1715901964}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732492,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bought a mountain bike today. Gonna go riding on some trails tomorrow.
Anyone here mountain bike? Can I get a quick rundown","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715820332587752.jpg","filename":"Samford-Conservation-Forest-Park-mountain-bike-riding.jpg"},"posted":1715820332},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732492","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715820537838878.jpg","filename":"1715820332587752.jpg"},"posted":1715820537},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732499,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732492
go from top of mountain to bottom of mountain","attachment":null,"posted":1715822482},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732511,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732492
Try to avoid rough gear transitions by easying up on pedal strokes while your gear switches
Wear some gloves
Wear a helmet
If you have a full suspension then don't forget you have a ascending and descending mode on your rear shock
Mountain biking never really stuck with me but those are the tips I got","attachment":null,"posted":1715824710},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732514,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732492
Find a group and ride with em. Don't be embarrassed to get off and push if you need to.","attachment":null,"posted":1715825732},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732499
woke bullshit, bottom to top is what real patriots do","attachment":null,"posted":1715826544},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732492
to start with you will probably need real pedals. Giant MTB pedals are the cheapest/best if you're really new. /n/ generals are a better resource than /out/","attachment":null,"posted":1715830738},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732541,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732492
Mountain biking is too vast and we don't know enough about you. Are you an experienced cyclist? are you new to biking? Mountain biking? what intensity of trail
I don't mountain bike but I regularly go off trail with my hybrid bike for pretty big distances. some safety tips
>NEVER brake with left brake (front wheel brake) only. you will fly over the handlebars
>if you are a lefty, consider inversing the brake cables. this helped with me because usually my left hand brakes faster
>wear a helmet","attachment":null,"posted":1715832683},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732569,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Don't let testosterone push you to go faster than you're comfortable riding.
You're going to wipe out a lot when you start out. Do that first before you start going fast.
Go slow when you do unfamiliar trails. Fallen trees across the trail can guillotine you. Conditions change all the time.
Learn to maintain your own bike. This will save you thousands in the long run.
Don't start on an expensive bike. It's probably going to get stolen anyway. Start small and see if you like it before you go expensive.
Bring some trail mix and water with you so you don't bonk out on the trail in the Summer heat.","attachment":null,"posted":1715843362},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"If you bought an old bike it'll be a learning curve, if you bought a bike newer than 2015ish it'll be piss easy because the bikes do all of the easy shit for you.
Tubeless tires run em at about 20 psi you really don't need more and it'll give you fuck off hero grip. When I learnt to ride no one ever taught me about low tire pressure I used to run 30+ and I thought I was shit at cornering but no it was just a lack of grip.
Ride natural rooty rough steep shit straight away, don't fall for the learning on flow trails meme that's for boomers, ride the real shit early your bike is capable of doing amazing things let it do it.
More important than anything I've said, watch Ben Cathrows how to bike videos they're very good.","attachment":null,"posted":1715851938},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732604,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732569
>>2732594
Holy reddit spacing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715854768},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732604
Sorry man I didn't realize this was your faggot safe space where I'm not allowed to make you uncomfortable.","attachment":null,"posted":1715855107},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Sorry man I didn't realize this was your faggot safe space where I'm not allowed to make you uncomfortable.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715855959551546.jpg","filename":"10201459_0.jpg"},"posted":1715855959},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732623,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732604
>>2732606
why are newfag zoomers like this?","attachment":null,"posted":1715861686},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732541
>NEVER brake with left brake (front wheel brake) only.
1. US is the only country that has their brakes the wrong way round like this.
2. That's shit advice. You can be doing anything with the rear and a fistful of front can put you over the bars.
OP, the front is what stops you - just learn to use it effectively.
Watch some youtube tutorials.
>>2732594 is honestly the best post so far.
>>2732604
What is a "paragraph" fucknuckle?
>>2732492
>Can I get a quick rundown
Be more specific. We don't know what you're riding or where you're riding it, give us something to work with.","attachment":null,"posted":1715866378},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Sorry OP, this just didn't want to link properly.
/xs/ picrel","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715867012499066.png","filename":"Screen Shot 2024-05-17 at 01.42.43.png"},"posted":1715867012},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732755,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732569
>>2732594
>>2732541
>>2732636
Op here
I bought this bike because it was cheap. Like 350$. I went to several local bikes shops and their cheapest bikes were like 900$.
Someone else told me about tubeless tires and I hope I don't get a flat when I go. That would suck ass.
Not sure how to describe the trails near me. Some are mostly flat and easy some are more mountainus and hard but no rough rocky terrain really. The trails are all really old so they are pretty nice looking and not so treacherous. I'm gonna start on the more flat ones because I haven't exercised in months.
I figure I didn't need a soft tail because the trails aren't that bad looking
>>2732642
I was looking for a mountain bike thread on n and here. I didn't even see that board","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715889395007723.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240516-125552~2.png"},"posted":1715889395},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732755
That's not a bike, that's a BSO. Forget trying to do any actual mountain biking. The wheels are guaranteed not tubeless compatible.","attachment":null,"posted":1715891101},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732781,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732541
Keep your butt behind the seat and you should be good.","attachment":null,"posted":1715894874},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732755
That is the exact same bike I ride, in the exact color!
It's not a bad starting bike, but you should know that around 600 miles, I had to replace every single part except for the frame.
The frame is still going strong. It's not a bad bike for a beginner. Beginners tend to beat the shit out of their equipment, so you shouldn't start on anything too expensive.
Replacing all of the parts made me realize why people spring for those more expensive bikes. If you buy cheap, you end up having to double the price of the bike on maintenance costs. Nevertheless, it was a learning experience.
> Someone else told me about tubeless tires and I hope I don't get a flat when I go. That would suck ass.
Bro, I would not recommend tubeless tires for a beginner. They are a giant pain in the ass and they're kind of a meme.
> I figure I didn't need a soft tail because the trails aren't that bad looking
Softtails are another meme. In the beginning my tailbone really hurt but in the long run I was glad I rode a hardtail because it helped me fix my riding technique, which eliminated the tailbone pain.
Learn on hardtail, then try a softtail for your second bike if you want to compare them. Hardtail will also reduce your costs and maintenance quite a bit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715901736},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732541
Your best bet is to have your dominant hand on the front brake because it's got more control and sensitivity. Your back brake is going to be on/off but your front brake is the one you use more carefully and you might right a whole section with it half on.","attachment":null,"posted":1715901841},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732755
You get what you paid for m8, consider second hand decent bikes. You'll hate the sport if you stick to that thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715901932},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732919,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732806
>If you buy cheap, you end up having to double the price of the bike on maintenance costs.
Yeah and it's frustrating af too, because nothing is ever quite right - gears grind, shocks are a bit shit, brakes are a bit weak.
Nothing makes someone quit quicker than a combination of the above.
Bearing that in mind I got my son one of these for his first mtb when he was 9.
($NZD shown so maube $60 USD?)
Threw some cheap (Judy Silver) air forks on it, went tubeless and he LOVES mtb. Other parents that skimped out wonder why their kids hate riding.
He's in his teens now, rides $$$$ full sus at an alarming pace, but still often brings this out, it rips on climbs.
See reviews on youtube. And look at the 7 - I got the forks for nothing, the 7 already has them.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715933652379753.png","filename":"Screen Shot 2024-05-17 at 20.03.55.png"},"posted":1715933652},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2732920,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732806
>They are a giant pain in the ass and they're kind of a meme.
I don't understand how people get this idea, they're the best thing since rockshox.
Takes no shit 5min a wheel to convert, they don't even need to come off.
No mess, just squirt the goo in through the valve.
Top up every 6mths or so.
Gotta be one hell of a hole to be a problem, torn sidewall or big cut.","attachment":null,"posted":1715935089},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733016,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732920
A lot of people are complaining that they tend to split like a banana.
As far as I can tell, the gains are minimal at best.
It's way easier to fix tubes if you get a flat while riding. You can just carry a spare tube. Good luck fixing a tubeless trailside, I think your day of riding will be over.","attachment":null,"posted":1715967770},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733034,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732492
Sand is your enemy.
Check brakes.
Deflate your tires a little to 1.2-1.5 bar.
Watch a couple of videos and technique.","attachment":null,"posted":1715971442},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733016
>the gains are minimal at best.
>never getting a flat
lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715973277},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733096,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732492
I think one of the most important things to learn is good braking. On downhills, using your rear brake will cause you to slide around. Learn good brake control with your front brake, and it'll save you from crashes later on. Maybe just ride around on the flat and see how different braking pressures feel (with the front brake of course). Then just as you ride, focus on mostly using your front brake, and you should get the hang of it quickly.","attachment":null,"posted":1715986147},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733110,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733096
OP's bike doesn't have brakes, it has slowers.","attachment":null,"posted":1715990947},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733121,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733096
>>2733110
When you brake only with the back brake it doesn't slow you down that much unless you really pull it, which will cause it to lock up. In order to have maximum slowdown you have to use the front brake. However with the front brake you risk going over the bars. You counter this by keeping your butt behind the seat. This is even more important when going downhill as you are already leaning forward and encouraging the bike to tip. So you really got to get behind the seat and lower your center of gravity.","attachment":null,"posted":1715993902},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733122,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733121
I mean you have to use both brakes together, back brake only locks up and front brake alone you go over the bars.","attachment":null,"posted":1715993962},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"OP if you learn anything here, I hope it is "don't ask /out/ about mtb.".
Or virtually anything for that matter.","attachment":null,"posted":1716094832},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733589,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733494
Reddit actually might be a better place for mtb discussion than /out/ lol","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716128262361603.png","filename":"Reddit.png"},"posted":1716128262},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732492
Yeah, hike up mountain, then send it down mountain, rinse and repeat.
Best summer activity there is.
Also, throw on tires with strong enough casings, paper thin casings might weigh a bit less, but a puncture can ruin what would otherwise be a really fun ride.
I don't go lighter than double down for Maxxis, or the equivalent with other brands.
Tires are the single most important part of your bike for what you can do with it, assuming the rest isn't walmart tier dogshit of course.","attachment":null,"posted":1716131485},{"board":"out","thread":2732492,"pid":2733613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732806
>Bro, I would not recommend tubeless tires for a beginner. They are a giant pain in the ass and they're kind of a meme.
Tubeless or bust, tubes are only for emergencies.
You have to run way higher pressure with tubes to avoid pinch flats, and that sacrifices both grip and comfort.
It's extremely easy to set up on anything with modern rims.
Just tape up, fit a valve and slap on a tire with some goo, and you are good to go.","attachment":null,"posted":1716131787}]}
{"title":"Virtual Reality","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732517,"pid":2732517,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://vrch.at/3dqt5b2a
Pretending to be outside with highly regarded individuals.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715827131605020.jpg","filename":"d489fd3ac91c31b87687d9fcc43dd1b6.jpg"},"posted":1715827131},{"board":"out","thread":2732517,"pid":2732526,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732517
VR is /in/. This is /out/.
>>/v/","attachment":null,"posted":1715830211}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732652,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why do you like nature more than people?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715868762467624.jpg","filename":"nature_based.jpg"},"posted":1715868762},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732653,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"nature never told me to pay taxes","attachment":null,"posted":1715868979},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732655,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
Because modern (mainstream, consumerist and sexually depraved) society does not represent my values and ceased representing them long ago. I have accepted that I cannot find reasonable common ground with people who subscribe to such a lifestyle, and I find it hard to be around them.
I find normalcy and peace in nature and with people who enjoy nature.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715869557601254.jpg","filename":"scouts and a moose.jpg"},"posted":1715869557},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732657,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
People are part of nature","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715869845165380.jpg","filename":"740.jpg"},"posted":1715869845},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
Forests give me clean air, clean water food and shelter--what has society done for me lately?
>>2732657
Most of them don't actually think this at all...which is why they're insufferable and myopic.","attachment":null,"posted":1715875150},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732705,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732653","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715880318341257.jpg","filename":"i.jpg"},"posted":1715880318},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
People disappoint me, nature doesn't","attachment":null,"posted":1715880593},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732735,"name":"Cetus8","msg":">>2732652
I like people, just not all. There are a handful of cool people I know whom I enjoy talking to in real life, but most don't get quite well with me. Nature is amazing no matter what","attachment":null,"posted":1715885612},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732763,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
Because nature is more natural than modern humans, and going against everything that is natural ruins you mentally and physically. Remove this concrete Hell and let me die by a snake bite already.","attachment":null,"posted":1715891807},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732845,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732763
Ancient humans lived till they were 30 and their teeth rotted out of they died of some horrid shit. The modern world is what means you can enjoy the outdoors instead of just suffering in It. You definitely own and use a bunch of modern tools and gear to help you enjoy the outdoors.","attachment":null,"posted":1715911311},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732848,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
Every time I organize a group camp, people bail. No matter how many camps I do, nature always shows up.","attachment":null,"posted":1715911718},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732852,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732763
>Remove this concrete
,,,bethe,moving.,
,BLM land is FREEEEEEE!,for 14 days.,,,after 14 days the poop circle is toosmall!,
,,,,,,sidenote> HUMMINGBIRD FIGHT!!!orisit?sexytime?,
,,,op?whynot Love both?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715914101226605.jpg","filename":"nomeview.jpg"},"posted":1715914101},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732873,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Nature is the constant, the unchanging, and pretty much the default form of existence. We as humans like to take control, and change the world we live in, but by doing that we make it complicated, confusing and obtuse.
It doesn't matter who you are, where you're at, and what you have or what you don't have, you can always return to that constant as it lies underneath the facade of society we've built. I think its no surprise that people who've never experienced the constant let alone established a relationship with it are unhinged neurotic messes.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715919549341633.jpg","filename":"eostre.jpg"},"posted":1715919549},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732934,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732845
how old was Diogenes when he died?","attachment":null,"posted":1715939534},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2732939,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
nature never called me a chud","attachment":null,"posted":1715949356},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732707
I disappoint people, nature doesn't care.","attachment":null,"posted":1716080838},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"sea is a harsh mistress","attachment":null,"posted":1716086905},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733442,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
Have you ever been around people dude?? Theyre god awful.","attachment":null,"posted":1716088167},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733446,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732845
I had rather die at 30 as a free man, than live to 80 as a (((slave))).","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716088503129235.jpg","filename":"3l2q24qxjb0d1.jpg"},"posted":1716088503},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733485,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732845
>Ancient humans lived till they were 30
Ancient humans lived longer, it’s just that the extremely high infant mortality rate pushed the average year of death down.
>their teeth rotted out
Most of them had better teeth than an average modern person because they were eating natural foods and not ultra processed sugar goyslop.
>of they died of some horrid shit
Good thing that doesn’t happen anymore, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1716093307},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733590,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732763
>>2733446
Go move to Afghanistan. You can live your dream of stepping in a dirty puddle and dying horribly.","attachment":null,"posted":1716128269},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733590
Pulled up and put em on clutch","attachment":null,"posted":1716129073},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733590
>goyim cope","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716134993586971.jpg","filename":"95xztzch09991.jpg"},"posted":1716134993},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
because nature brings me peace and makes me alive. Its also quiet. And farther I am from people, the more I can see the stars. And I really like stars. People are loud, I find them annoying, and they commit crimes a lot which I don't like. I happen to think big cities are a crime against humanity and the natural world if Im honest","attachment":null,"posted":1716143109},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733684,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733485
all of this is correct. There's no real evidence that people simply spontaneously died around 30 as if it were old age for them.","attachment":null,"posted":1716143254},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
People are often loud, overbearing, and only seem to be getting angrier and more on-edge. I often feel like I don't fit in or that there isn't a place for me in most social spaces. Even in the company of kind, generous folk who I might otherwise enjoy I often feel like I'm intruding, infringing, or otherwise inconveniencing them in some way. Probably my own insecurities bleeding through. Guess that's something I need to work on and make peace with.
Nature doesn't impose any of these feelings upon me. I feel that, in some sense, I'm meant to be there. I feel comfortable and without pressure to present myself a certain way. Both cities and nature are teeming with life; with the former, it's very in-your-face and you're forced to partake. With the latter, it's vibrant and lush, but just barely perceptible beneath the surface.","attachment":null,"posted":1716147717},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733742,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733485
>they lived longer
>except for the ones that didn't
>but those don't count
Should have left that point off, kek","attachment":null,"posted":1716151948},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2733765,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732845
this anon is right
we live in the best time as long as you stay out of the big cities","attachment":null,"posted":1716154974},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2734021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733590
just scam welfare and neetbux instead of doing your retarded ass suggestion you dumb bitch.","attachment":null,"posted":1716208529},{"board":"out","thread":2732652,"pid":2734505,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732652
Nature is uncaring but people are malicious.","attachment":null,"posted":1716308152}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2732595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">*dies in your path*
what do?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715853110192404.jpg","filename":"an-earthworm-annelida-traverses-a-wet-path-during-rainfall-MAX8BA.jpg"},"posted":1715853110},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2732596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732595
feed it down the peepee hole","attachment":null,"posted":1715853152},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2732608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732595
help it. you are like a god to it. take 2 seconds to throw it into a better place.","attachment":null,"posted":1715856194},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2732609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732608
for a bro earthworm definitely. for a leech or funnel web who are both often in this situation, let em rot I says","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715856827286035.jpg","filename":"r0_350_6720_4130_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg"},"posted":1715856827},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2732611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732609
if it can hurt you, you are not a god to it and no longer required to act honorably ;)","attachment":null,"posted":1715857355},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2732612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732611
that's very poignant anon and I agree. thank you for that, you are rarely ever poignant.","attachment":null,"posted":1715857476},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2732659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"based worm","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715870908700656.jpg","filename":"an-earthworm-annelida-traverses-a-wet-path-during-rainfall-MAX8BA.jpg"},"posted":1715870908},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2733052,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i love worms so much, i save every one i see","attachment":null,"posted":1715975274},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2733077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732595
Eat it. You think you just gon leave it down there? Huh?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715981689384219.jpg","filename":"th-312069974.jpg"},"posted":1715981689},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2733158,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732595
I've found at least one worm on the sidewalk that was still alive, but dried up and almost dead. All it took to revive it was to pour a little water on it, and I could release it into some nearby dirt. Felt nice to do that :)","attachment":null,"posted":1716003604},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2733187,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732595
Put it in my urethra. As God intended","attachment":null,"posted":1716008097},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2734127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"if you cut it in half doesn't it become two worms","attachment":null,"posted":1716224620},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2734129,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733077
Worms aren't bugs you fuckin idiot MOROn","attachment":null,"posted":1716225055},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2734134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732659
kek","attachment":null,"posted":1716225941},{"board":"out","thread":2732595,"pid":2734160,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734127
idid,,sciencestuff,,cut planaria into 6 parts,,eyes,body,tail halves.,
,,then grow them back to whole and test whathey remember?, eyes remember lightricks,,body remembers food tricks,,,tail?>dumb.,did remembershock tricks.,
,,,flatworms,,,can learnto!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716229942404496.jpg","filename":"rooster.jpg"},"posted":1716229942}]}
{"title":"Anyone else collect bones?","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732718,"pid":2732718,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bone room","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715882526771731.jpg","filename":"20240516_124619.jpg"},"posted":1715882526},{"board":"out","thread":2732718,"pid":2732724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732718
no i have maxxed out how many animal ghosts i want in my house (10) anymore than that and shit starts to get real crazy","attachment":null,"posted":1715883797},{"board":"out","thread":2732718,"pid":2732725,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732718
Your mom collects my bone.","attachment":null,"posted":1715883906},{"board":"out","thread":2732718,"pid":2732732,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"boner oom","attachment":null,"posted":1715885488},{"board":"out","thread":2732718,"pid":2732744,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Antlers aren't bones, technically.","attachment":null,"posted":1715887380},{"board":"out","thread":2732718,"pid":2732758,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I collect bones and put them in my compost.","attachment":null,"posted":1715889864},{"board":"out","thread":2732718,"pid":2732792,"name":"Bone anon","msg":">>2732744
Did you not see the Fibula and other assorted bones?","attachment":null,"posted":1715898035},{"board":"out","thread":2732718,"pid":2732813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"didnt know people actually kept bones, found this poor guy and took some pics, didnt even want to touch it desu","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715902444315680.jpg","filename":"boner.jpg"},"posted":1715902444},{"board":"out","thread":2732718,"pid":2732826,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732792
Yea but the antler should be in the antler room, not the bone room.","attachment":null,"posted":1715906837}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Moobies with /out/ feels.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716063129595286.png","filename":"fall.png"},"posted":1716063129},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733335,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716063186217005.jpg","filename":"Moonrise_Kingdom.jpg"},"posted":1716063186},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733336,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716063279674233.jpg","filename":"thefinalfrontier0176.jpg"},"posted":1716063279},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733337,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716063372740031.jpg","filename":"the-blair-witch-project-set-the-bar-for-found-footage-1571247427.jpg"},"posted":1716063372},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733338,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733334
what a stupid fuckin movie
>can't tie knots
>improper use of equipment
>wrong equipment for the application
>no emergency/contingency plans","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716063401163679.jpg","filename":"i-FQ5Xbvp-L.jpg"},"posted":1716063401},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733334
This wasn't a good movie.","attachment":null,"posted":1716066857},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The Way Back(2010)
As Far as My Feet Will Carry Me (2001)
The Snow Walker(2003)
Dr Zhivago(1965)[too an extent]
All similar movies that I enjoy when I’m in that mood.","attachment":null,"posted":1716067939},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733370,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733362
>>what are we teaching our keeds
That men are stronger and more capable than women.","attachment":null,"posted":1716073805},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733382,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733362
It's a Wes Anderson film, don't expect anything smart out of it","attachment":null,"posted":1716076120},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733385,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716078057780018.jpg","filename":"Stand-By-Me-Campfire.jpg"},"posted":1716078057},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733395,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733334
Shite movie. Feel embarrassed about ya post.","attachment":null,"posted":1716080561},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZQdYvVXaug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlfJcU3nnl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emo0uffHltk
Three of the best out movies form the 70s","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716080935418219.jpg","filename":"ochoco national forest.jpg"},"posted":1716080935},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733404,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733398
Two more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGp9u56FJKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjAi5ER5FOU","attachment":null,"posted":1716081446},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733406,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Tracks (2013)
Wild (2014)","attachment":null,"posted":1716081826},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716084606803109.jpg","filename":"ace.jpg"},"posted":1716084606},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733404
>>2733398
U must be a boomer with those recommendations. I’ve only heard of one of those, thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1716088245},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733385
It still pisses me off that they normalized making camp fires, i guess it was different back then. It should be absolutely illegal now during the summer at least. Wayyy too many forest fires now due to global warming and things being drier now. The risk isnt worth it and normalfags are too retarded to be responsible with it.","attachment":null,"posted":1716089742},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733460
depenz where you live. generally places like New England and the Specific Northwest have minimal or even negligible fire danger, and most of the deep South and Southeast. West and Southwest of course is a nachtmare, and almost everywhere in Australia","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716090251379413.jpg","filename":"IMGP4460.jpg"},"posted":1716090251},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733337
>get lost near a stream
>choose not to follow it until they find something
Pure lack of basic skills, just like /out/!","attachment":null,"posted":1716090974},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733470,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733460
Lol. What a stupid useless faggot you are.","attachment":null,"posted":1716091380},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733443
Gen x, just hit 55 this year. So, which one have you heard of? The first two you should check out are Jeremiah Johnson, and sorcerer. The Black Stallion and The Earthling are more kid originated. The Man Who Would Be King is colonial advantage by ways of Rudyard Kipling. two retired sergeants head to a mystical kingdom north of Afghanistan to loot and pillage.","attachment":null,"posted":1716092191},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Deliverance
Lawrence of Arabia
Fellowship of the Ring","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716104701988333.png","filename":"360.png"},"posted":1716104701},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733877,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733334
This movie was shite!","attachment":null,"posted":1716169088},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733936,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hell In The End
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjivEm8vxg8
I love this movie.
Deliverance is also good.","attachment":null,"posted":1716177612},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733962,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"A Walk In The Woods is really comfy, and it also has an annoying gearfag character
The Eight Mountains is a good recent one","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716186092214228.jpg","filename":"AWITW-Mary-Ellen[1].jpg"},"posted":1716186092},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733980,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"-The Hunter (2011)
A hunter (Willem Dafoe) must find an elusive Tasmanian Tiger, thought to be extinct in the uninhabited forests of Tasmania, Australia.
-Wolf Creek (2005)
Some tourists go into the deserts of Australia and meet a weird gentleman who invites them for some authentic outback fun.
-The Tunnel (2011) if you like urb ex
A reporter decides to investigate the network of sewers and world war 2 bunkers underneath Sydney, Australia.
-The Proposition (2005)
A western about a reformed criminal who must save his little brother from the noose by hunting down his older brother, who is a notorious outlaw hiding in the outback.
-A Boy and His Dog (1975)
A boy scavenges the wastelands with his psychic dog in search of food and women.
-Stalker (1979)
A man familiar with the lands of the strange exclusion zone is hired to escort two gentlemen to a place said to be able to grant wishes, if only they can make it there through the supernatural anomalies...
I rate all of these films as good. Enjoy!","attachment":null,"posted":1716191165},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2733993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733334","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716197201855792.jpg","filename":"The Ghost and the Darkness (1996) poster.jpg"},"posted":1716197201},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734008,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733362
>>2733460
shut the fuck up already","attachment":null,"posted":1716206425},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734027,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733362
>"not to be a flaming homosexual but"
>followed by the most homosexual post about how men shouldn't be portrayed as strong and responsible so the girl they're with can have a more carefree experience
Ask me how I know you're still single.","attachment":null,"posted":1716210237},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734041,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733443
You can tell he’s old because he just dropped a bunch of links instead of listing them like a normal person:
Drama Movie A
(link to Drama Movie A)
Buddy Comedy Haha film
(Link to Buddy Comedy Haha film)
Action Movie from 1972
(Link to Actuon Movie from 1972)","attachment":null,"posted":1716212494},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734027
this kek
>Ask me how I know you're still single.
no matter how much you want to whine about it why don't want a soft bitch","attachment":null,"posted":1716212909},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"(Picrel).
All is Lost.
Cast Away.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716233029219452.jpg","filename":"Capt Fan.jpg"},"posted":1716233029},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734193,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733334","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716236269621879.jpg","filename":"Robinson-Crus_.jpg"},"posted":1716236269},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734220,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734041
But they are good trailers to good movies.
Gunga Din(1939) is a also a great out movie. It even got black face, what more do you want?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716240699519373.jpg","filename":"gunga din.jpg"},"posted":1716240699},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734220
Before I forget The Naked Prey(1966)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mydc8K7yaZI","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716241002506555.jpg","filename":"nakedprey1.jpg"},"posted":1716241002},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Pure kino","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716242329134484.jpg","filename":"IMG_2782.jpg"},"posted":1716242329},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734244,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Jeremiah Johnson (mtn man kino)
The Hunter (aus/nz kino)
The Edge (Alaska kino)
Insomnia (Alaska cop kino)
Hostiles (American west kino)
Breaker Morant (african veldt kino - picrel)
The Hunted (pnw kino)
Last of the Mohicans (french n injun war outdoor kino)
Seraphim Falls (American west kino)
My Side of the Mountain (canuck outdoor kid kino)
The Ritual (sweden forest horror kino)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716242964019225.jpg","filename":"Break2.jpg"},"posted":1716242964},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734266,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716247205654664.jpg","filename":"431798-58ed68903a5e48dca5657b8a752f76b1.jpg"},"posted":1716247205},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How has Into the Wild not been mentioned yet?","attachment":null,"posted":1716251683},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734304,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734301
because mccan'tless was a soicuck faggot moron and anything concerning him should be forgotten","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716252298297070.png","filename":"McCan't-less lol.png"},"posted":1716252298},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734335,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734301
>REEEEEEEEEE
That's why. Autistic shut-ins find the story extremely triggering.","attachment":null,"posted":1716258025},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733962
This movie sucked ass and it was solely made to pander to boomers.
Also that fucking REI commercial starring Nick Offerman was really off-putting","attachment":null,"posted":1716259755},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733962
Watched the Redford movie, total shit. Figured it was because it was adapted from the book. Turns out the book is even worse.","attachment":null,"posted":1716261295},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734342
>>2734349
It was basically a youtube series with a hollywood budget and professional actors. Not enough happening to warrant writing a book or making a movie about.
I didn't hate it but I kept asking myself "why does this need to exist" when any outdoor youtuber with a drone and a bit of charisma would do a better job.","attachment":null,"posted":1716276304},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Weirdly this.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716276759313988.jpg","filename":"the-endless-summer.jpg"},"posted":1716276759},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734430,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFaL03SKEzE
One of my favourite films of all time
I've seen it 7 times now and it never gets old
>DERSU!
>CAPITAN!
>>2733335
I love this film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQoNhRN9CiI","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716289545678533.png","filename":"1687559485376574.png"},"posted":1716289545},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734434,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734430
Some other good films include
>The Revenant
>Bone Tomahawk
>The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert
>True Grit (2010)
>Fires on the Plains
>>2734244
Breaker Morant is my favourite Australian film
I don't know why it's so underrated today
I remember enjoying the Ritual a lot","attachment":null,"posted":1716290184},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734446,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734398
I watched a video that was sixty one-second clips of a woman doing the AT start to finish, and it was a significantly better experience","attachment":null,"posted":1716294967},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733334
The original conan was surprisingly /out/ even if that wasn't the focus","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716295732302795.jpg","filename":"1686730128316507.jpg"},"posted":1716295732},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94KcI0gLq1A","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716296782927304.jpg","filename":"MV5BMTAwNzk4NTU3NDReQTJeQWpwZ15BbWU3MDg3OTEyODI@._V1_QL75_UY281_CR1,0,190,281_.jpg"},"posted":1716296782},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734571,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734430
>Dersu Uzula
actual kino.","attachment":null,"posted":1716319871},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2734580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how has no one mentioned lord of the flies yet","attachment":null,"posted":1716322348},{"board":"out","thread":2733334,"pid":2737032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734580
Because it's a shit book and a shit movie.","attachment":null,"posted":1716868975}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732730,"pid":2732730,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Its not fair, bros. I just want to go fishing and I can't breathe because all the fucking pollen in the air making me sneeze like crazy and making me sound like charlie from smiling friends.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715885163320315.png","filename":"1715734687152955.png"},"posted":1715885163},{"board":"out","thread":2732730,"pid":2732736,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732730
just stop having bad genetics lmao skill issue","attachment":null,"posted":1715885711},{"board":"out","thread":2732730,"pid":2732743,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732736
this worked for me, i thought about it really hard and plugged my nose and blew as hard as i could until i heard a loud pop in my ears and now i have no allergies","attachment":null,"posted":1715887191},{"board":"out","thread":2732730,"pid":2732745,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732730
Conor McGregor can do it. You don't. Now take a coffee break and by that he means bring him his coffee","attachment":null,"posted":1715887798},{"board":"out","thread":2732730,"pid":2732833,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732730
vaxx status?","attachment":null,"posted":1715909356},{"board":"out","thread":2732730,"pid":2732854,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732745
Gooby is a bum midget
I'd beat him","attachment":null,"posted":1715915160},{"board":"out","thread":2732730,"pid":2732858,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732730
see if you can find some honey that's made from local farms, eating it can help with allergies from pollen in your area","attachment":null,"posted":1715915646},{"board":"out","thread":2732730,"pid":2732876,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I dont get it, trees and pollen have been around for millions of years and you show up and make a big deal about it","attachment":null,"posted":1715919960},{"board":"out","thread":2732730,"pid":2732930,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732730
Weak genes. Stay inside timmy","attachment":null,"posted":1715938094},{"board":"out","thread":2732730,"pid":2732964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732730
Take an antihistamine.","attachment":null,"posted":1715955185}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2733519,"pid":2733519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm looking to learn a thing or two about vacuum sealing food for camping trips. I have a friend going on a camping trip soon, and I want to make her some tasty food (and to stroke my own ego as a chef)
Any tips on where to start? What to avoid? Warning signs if a vacuum packed omelette is about to explode?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716105939272218.jpg","filename":"lemon piglet.jpg"},"posted":1716105939},{"board":"out","thread":2733519,"pid":2733529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733519
Things still need to be refrigerated, so don’t bother with that omelette unless you are car camping with a cooler.
You can get smaller foil packs that are heat sealable, but you have to use a small hack to get them to vacuum...just cut a small strip of the normal bumpy vacuum seal bags and leave it near the edge about to be sealed, the bumpy part lets the air pass out and makes the vacuum work.
Those little foil packs are good for packaging your own homemade energy bars using fig or date or dried berries as a base.","attachment":null,"posted":1716117049},{"board":"out","thread":2733519,"pid":2733778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733529
Oh yeah, they'll be storing everything in coolers, and the meals would be pre-cooked and frozen.
I am a little concerned that the ice may pierce the sealed bags, but I don't know how likely that actually is since I'm a little out of my element here.","attachment":null,"posted":1716156145}]}
{"title":"Cooking tips","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2734028,"pid":2734028,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I went on my first long camp, 4 nights. I cooked using pic related, I'd buy some meat and fry it, then boil some rice or noodles and mix it together. Cooking the meat seems to take a really long time. Burgers would appear cooked on the outside but inside would be raw. Sausages, I'd have to cut into small pieces and that would still take a while. If I turned up the heat, it would just burn the outside and still leave the middle raw. Best thing was thin steak slices, that was easy. So what am I getting wrong here, is it just what happens when you cook outside? I've never found it taking this long with bbqs.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716210262141264.jpg","filename":"20240520_135919.jpg"},"posted":1716210262},{"board":"out","thread":2734028,"pid":2734029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734028
Get a carbon steel pan with a lid. Try to keep the lid on it the entire time you're cooking so you don't lose all your heat to a slight breeze.","attachment":null,"posted":1716210427},{"board":"out","thread":2734028,"pid":2734038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734028
Those little backpacking stoves like that are really only good for boiling water. The flame doesn't spread enough and it doesn't put out enough btus for a big skillet like that. If you are car camping, which it seems like you might be since your talking about taking raw meat, then you might want to look into one of those Coleman dual burner stoves. They're like 50 bucks and work great. Also you can get a butane stove that caterers use for about the same price that put out even more btus. Pros cook on them. If you are intent on cooking meat on a skillet out on trail look into those larger mountaineering type stoves with the big alcohol canister. They put out more btus than the little one in your picture but the flame will still be pretty small.","attachment":null,"posted":1716211941},{"board":"out","thread":2734028,"pid":2734040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734028
If you're already building a campfire, start learning the art of foil dinners.","attachment":null,"posted":1716212340},{"board":"out","thread":2734028,"pid":2734055,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734038
I'm camping on a bike, I can take a reasonable amount of weight but don't have much physical space.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716212913767747.jpg","filename":"20240516_180147.jpg"},"posted":1716212913},{"board":"out","thread":2734028,"pid":2734062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734055
Yeah you wouldn't want one of the bulkier stoves then. Your options are upgrade your stove to a whisperlite which is about twice the size of your current stove, or learn to cook on the fire.","attachment":null,"posted":1716213396},{"board":"out","thread":2734028,"pid":2734071,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734062
I need to get something where the flame sits on the ground anyway, it's a bit haphazard with this on campsites where you can't just dig a hole to place it in. Maybe there's something a bit bigger but not too large. I use a Stanley pot for boiling water and that is no problem, it's only slightly wider than the gas can though.","attachment":null,"posted":1716214139}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2734200,"pid":2734200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Does anyone in out use geograph.org, afaik it has no American equivalent but for the British isles and germany it's one of the more interesting resources","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716237849995896.png","filename":"GeographBrowseScreenshot.png"},"posted":1716237849},{"board":"out","thread":2734200,"pid":2734258,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't know of any, but good threads deserve a bump.","attachment":null,"posted":1716245266},{"board":"out","thread":2734200,"pid":2734389,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734200
Are you with the project OP?","attachment":null,"posted":1716271085},{"board":"out","thread":2734200,"pid":2734428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734389
I use it but I'm not an admin of the site or anything","attachment":null,"posted":1716289302}]}
{"title":"Good outdoor video game thread","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2734515,"pid":2734515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">What is UnReal World?
UnReal World, or UrW, is a unique graphical roguelike RPG taking place in the Far North long, long ago. It brings you a realistic game world rich with historical atmosphere in which northern folklore, knowledge and way of life play an important part. The atmosphere and game features are highly original and compelling. The world of the game is based on the ancient Finland in the late Iron Age.
Throughout the years, UnReal World has been praised for its depth, realism, atmosphere and immersion.
As a member of one of nine different cultures you'll enter a very realistic and enchanting game world:
- find excitement in surviving everyday life and the quest for success in the harsh ancient wilderness
- play freely or complete various game tasks in a huge randomly generated world
- skill-based system including dozens of skills from cookery to hideworking
- keep in touch with the indigenous spirit world and the supernatural guardians of nature
- packed with intuitive graphics and pictures, original music and sounds
There are infinite ways to play the game; as a fisherman, a hermit searching for peace, a brave adventurer, a rough hunter, a trapper or a tradesman etc. Everything is up to you.
Personally I just like to divide my time between actually being out in the forest, and pretending to be out in the forest with the aid of 1990s video game graphics :)
http://www.gamespy.com/articles/517/517647p1.html
https://www.unrealworld.fi/","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716309687510619.png","filename":"RQPYAL.png"},"posted":1716309687},{"board":"out","thread":2734515,"pid":2734548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They definitely thought of everything but sadly I can't cope with the "turn based" gameplay.","attachment":null,"posted":1716312647},{"board":"out","thread":2734515,"pid":2734567,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Mobile games because you can play them on a phone you actually took outdoors.","attachment":null,"posted":1716319327},{"board":"out","thread":2734515,"pid":2734624,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734515
Cataclysm Bright Nights","attachment":null,"posted":1716336484},{"board":"out","thread":2734515,"pid":2734643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734515
Has to be Rust.
Starting off naked and alone, with just a rock and a torch. You have to find food and create some simple tools while evading other players who will kill you. You find a nice thick patch of forest, or maybe a hidden outcropping from a cliffside, and you build a shelter. You put down your sleeping bag as a respawn point, and go out into a post-apocolyptic world to fend for yourself.
It hits you right in the "hunter-gatherer" part of the brain. Best waste of time I've found in years.","attachment":null,"posted":1716342548},{"board":"out","thread":2734515,"pid":2734645,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734643","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716342630404042.jpg","filename":"Rust-What-Should-You-Do-First-in-the-Game.jpg"},"posted":1716342630},{"board":"out","thread":2734515,"pid":2734660,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"DayZ","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716346784415082.jpg","filename":"IMG_7825.jpg"},"posted":1716346784},{"board":"out","thread":2734515,"pid":2734690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734645
Is this running on a Wii?","attachment":null,"posted":1716367045},{"board":"out","thread":2734515,"pid":2734695,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Killing cows on RuneScape on your phone","attachment":null,"posted":1716370309}]}
{"title":"This guy deserves some praise","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2734601,"pid":2734601,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Stumbled across this YT channel of a guy from Florida who documented his solo hike/camp across the country from florida to California and apparently 3 years ago started one from seattle to florida but haven't seen an update in years.
But his first walk is fully documented. A guy with his camera and backpack and videos with only a few hundred views.
https://www.youtube.com/@willswalkingwest7267/videos
I feel sad this channel wasn't discovered. I want to try this one day:
https://youtu.be/QOP0yG836y0?si=9SQQIS1J6R4-QZGL","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716327768544068.jpg","filename":"maxresdefault-2.jpg"},"posted":1716327768},{"board":"out","thread":2734601,"pid":2734644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734601
Thanks for this, i was looking for more outdoors content","attachment":null,"posted":1716342571},{"board":"out","thread":2734601,"pid":2734675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734644
I'm really thinking about walking America. I think I have enough saved for it and figure why not go for it.","attachment":null,"posted":1716353465}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2733727,"pid":2733727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What is the average price for good quality boots?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716150445191897.webm","filename":"1713124243681738.webm"},"posted":1716150445},{"board":"out","thread":2733727,"pid":2733738,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733727
For what?
General workwear steel toed boots: $150-300
General hikers with mid-height ankle support: $250-450
Hardcore mountaineering boots: +$700
Tactical/tacticool boots for LARPing: $120-300
Waterproofness and materials will dictate majority of the cost, brand will have a lesser effect these days. LOWA and North Face still make the best all around hikers IMO, and SCARPA is king for mountaineering.
These are Canadian dollars btw, convert at your own risk.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716151792256509.webm","filename":"jessu2.webm"},"posted":1716151792},{"board":"out","thread":2733727,"pid":2733755,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733738
>North Face
Are they actually still decent? I thought they were just athleisure for finance wankers now?","attachment":null,"posted":1716153331},{"board":"out","thread":2733727,"pid":2733756,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733755
No they're one of the few brands that achieved "mainstream" success and also kept their quality standards high. I've got more than a dozen North Face products from 20 years ago til last year and they all hold up well.
I've been using a Bigshot for +15 years and the only damage is one of the mesh water bottle holders. I had a metal bottle with a sharp edge in there and it ground a little hold through it from sitting on rocks over the years.
My main hikers are NorthFace Jannu GTX II and they've got +10 years of heavy use, still waterproof and the leather hasn't worn out anywhere.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716153667058537.jpg","filename":"DSC_0775.jpg"},"posted":1716153667},{"board":"out","thread":2733727,"pid":2733823,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733727
Bout tree fiddy.","attachment":null,"posted":1716163228},{"board":"out","thread":2733727,"pid":2733859,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733727
I don't care much for apes, monkeys and chimps. But orangutan's, they resonate with my soul.","attachment":null,"posted":1716166559}]}
{"title":"EDC","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2734527,"pid":2734527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They ban EDC threads on pol so this is my every day carry. Since it is sort of outdoors activity.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716311098722613.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240521_195012.jpg"},"posted":1716311098},{"board":"out","thread":2734527,"pid":2734529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why are all the Mexican children that post on /pol/ so intent on ruining the rest of this website?","attachment":null,"posted":1716311203},{"board":"out","thread":2734527,"pid":2734538,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734527
There's already an active EDC thread.
>>2719184
You're either a bot or you need to lurk more.","attachment":null,"posted":1716311985},{"board":"out","thread":2734527,"pid":2734546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734538
>expecting a /pol/nigger to read
It's a lost cause, give it up anon","attachment":null,"posted":1716312471}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2734718,"pid":2734718,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Absolutely mogs every national park...
I love it here bros, wife's family has an island in the high peaks, and we only live an hour away from the park","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716382398525843.jpg","filename":"1716382101769.jpg"},"posted":1716382398},{"board":"out","thread":2734718,"pid":2734756,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"yeah the adirondacks are pretty cool","attachment":null,"posted":1716387185},{"board":"out","thread":2734718,"pid":2734795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734756
For sure. Adirondack Park has real mountains and real wilderness.","attachment":null,"posted":1716394731},{"board":"out","thread":2734718,"pid":2734938,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734718
>Moggs
Ask me how I know you're 15","attachment":null,"posted":1716417403},{"board":"out","thread":2734718,"pid":2737469,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">when the bait is so lazy that nobody responds to it
Better luck next time, I guess.","attachment":null,"posted":1716988345}]}
{"title":"Mid-Cut vs. High-Cut Boots","posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2730547,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Which one is the ultimate pair of boots for out?
I'm deciding between Alpina's Tundra model: https://www.lamnia.com/en/p/19054/apparel-and-footwear/alpina-tundra-46
Or its Trapper model: https://www.lamnia.com/en/p/19021/apparel-and-footwear/alpina-trapper-boots","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715366205055143.jpg","filename":"Mid-Cut-Vs-Low-Cut-Vs-High-Ankle-Hiking-Boots.jpg"},"posted":1715366205},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2730632,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Stop ruining your feet with this crap, wear sandals, if only because it's one of the few places where it's socially acceptable to do so","attachment":null,"posted":1715378458},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2730653,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
I got out of the Army Reserves in 2022. I do a lot of shooting and hiking. I'm no expert, but best I've found is both.
>breathability
>maneuverability
I use trail running shoes. Lighter weight. Better for running.
>water resistance
>ankle support
I use hiking shoes. The greater the concern for rolling your ankles, the higher you want the boots to go. Heavy, you want to shop right so your feet don't sweat too much. Have your sock game on point. Works best for me, I don't know if the answer is suitable to you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715382141},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2730663,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730653
As a jack of all trades regarding versatility of use, plus Grayman factor, mid-cut or high-cut?
I own the Trappers but they are big and heavy, will switching them with the Tundras sacrifice anything significant?
Please check OP links.","attachment":null,"posted":1715383214},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2730908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
How should I determine the correct size for my combat boots? One finger behind the heel when toes are in front? How about width? I received a pair of boots that I ordered online and now I will have to decide whether I'll keep them or return them to the store.","attachment":null,"posted":1715449560},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2731884,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730908
Next time try them on in the shop before you look for a deal online.
Then if you like them order a couple more pairs because you won’t be able to find the same again next time.
Wait more than a couple of days though - I have 3 pairs of the same shoe, they’re as uncomfortable as they appear to be indestructible. Oh well, something to wear around town I guess.","attachment":null,"posted":1715653000},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2731887,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Let me guess, you need more","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715653214109753.jpg","filename":"19727539_44795400_2048.jpg"},"posted":1715653214},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2731904,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731887
My inner gopnik needs one more stripe","attachment":null,"posted":1715656872},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2731930,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
Only advantage of high-cut boots is that the water gets harder in if you are hiking in a stream.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715664860061382.jpg","filename":"DSC_4380.jpg"},"posted":1715664860},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2731933,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"For the past 3-4 years I've had a air of Salomon Men's Quest 4s, or GTX. Or something idk they look like this. They're harder to get on and off than other boots but have held up great for me, other than a bit of wear they're as good as they've ever been. I'd recommend them.
I've never used a pair of hiking/running shoes. I don't know about you guys but shoes don't last.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715667650223698.png","filename":"1715132209721163.png"},"posted":1715667650},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2731942,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
what is your out? if it's hiking more than 3 miles, your picks are dogshit.
If it's just stomping around the woods and shooting guns into trash, both are decent.","attachment":null,"posted":1715672629},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2731972,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"For me, it's the Oboz Sawtooth II. Can't say I have any complaints. They were my first hiking boot and have been doing me well in all my excursions. They take a real good beating, too. They come in waterproof and non-waterproof varieties as well.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715689884249863.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1715689884},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2731981,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731942
>I don't like your choice of footwear
>no, I won't explain why
>no, I won't suggest alternatives
Opinion discarded","attachment":null,"posted":1715693231},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2731983,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730663
>Grayman factor
The fuck is this gay shit, just wear vans or something.
Nobody will know you are a tacticool retard larper if you wear regular hiking shoes or boots.
Holy shit you are a faggot.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715693776826816.jpg","filename":"ConsiderTheFollowing.jpg"},"posted":1715693776},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2731988,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730632
what kind of sandals?","attachment":null,"posted":1715695087},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730632
Fuck off hippie.","attachment":null,"posted":1715736789},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732241,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730663
>gray man
the state of this board","attachment":null,"posted":1715768957},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732247,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732241
doesnt that just mean halfway between white and black in skin tone?
>verification not required","attachment":null,"posted":1715769801},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730663
There's one R too many in your "grayman".","attachment":null,"posted":1715771543},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732253,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730908
Oh no, the clueless wop faggot again.","attachment":null,"posted":1715771616},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"High-Cut has ankle support, you won't hurt it as easily when carrying large loads in terrain.
When I'm traveling light I might not use shoes at all though","attachment":null,"posted":1715772565},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732247
Grey man is a meme from /k/
It's the consept of dressing so normal that you won't be seen, and can easily hide in crowds, like urban camo","attachment":null,"posted":1715774719},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732284,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732264
It was hilarious when youtubers started doing "grayman EDC loadout" shit, and every last one of them thought it meant "everything I wear must be gray".","attachment":null,"posted":1715779977},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732296,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731988
unironically chacos. best /out/ sandals ever.","attachment":null,"posted":1715783686},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732299,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
Saucony Ultra Ridge.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715784461249462.jpg","filename":"45464-021.jpg"},"posted":1715784461},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732346,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
should I wear mid-cut boots if i'm going to area with a lot of vipers?","attachment":null,"posted":1715795272},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732346
The common viper is not really dangerous.","attachment":null,"posted":1715796670},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732370,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732347
i was thinking of horned viper. i'll probably see common european viper too, but i'm not so afraid of them","attachment":null,"posted":1715801011},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732620,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732299
What is Saucony?","attachment":null,"posted":1715859481},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732629,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732620
Named after Saucony Creek Pennsylvania. One of the oldest American shoe companies still in production. Owned by Wolverine at the moment.","attachment":null,"posted":1715865531},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732633,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732629
You are suppose to say saucon deeznuts","attachment":null,"posted":1715866117},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2732643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732633
Oh. Saucon-deez-nuts, faaaaaaag!","attachment":null,"posted":1715867039},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
I use pic-rel","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716084983109030.png","filename":"Feet.png"},"posted":1716084983},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733502,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
why do people keep asking about shoes?
It depends entirely on individual preference and conditions.
Wear whatever's comfortable OP, nobody can help you but you.","attachment":null,"posted":1716096483},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733509,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
boots are for low exertion winter activities or mountaineering and nothing else","attachment":null,"posted":1716100063},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733545,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731887
Let me guess, you need more","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716122169205138.jpg","filename":"yo1a0tt7esp61.jpg"},"posted":1716122169},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
Mid most of the time, high for swamplands and deep snow, low for hard terrain.
>inb4 ankle support
You need ankle support with extremely high loads (think military rucks at full capacity), but in tough terrain, being able to bend your ankles so the sole can grip the terrain properly is much more important. Same reason freeclimbers don't wear mountain boots.","attachment":null,"posted":1716122741},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733610,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733509
>t. low T","attachment":null,"posted":1716131480},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731981
you are a fat, I can smell it from here.","attachment":null,"posted":1716134947},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733641,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
I'd recommend avoiding any shoe that has any sort of foam sandwiched between the upper, and the sole.From my personal experience,the foam loses it's density rather quickly,if you carry any substantial weight.I've destroyed many a shoe,while carrying 100 lbs for short distances a couple of times.The foam becomes damaged,leaving you with a mushy feeling shoe,that increases foot fatigue.","attachment":null,"posted":1716137870},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733719,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bought myself some nice Hanwag Tashi made of Yak leather","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716149850700010.png","filename":"hanwag.png"},"posted":1716149850},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"North Face Hedgehog","attachment":null,"posted":1716154553},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2733814,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"moc style for mobility and comfort","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716162709107011.jpg","filename":"birdshooters.jpg"},"posted":1716162709},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2734760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730547
>>2730632
>>2730653
>>2730663
>>2730908
>>2731884
>>2731887
>>2731904
>>2731930
>>2731933
>>2731942
>>2731972
>>2731981
>>2731983
>>2731988
>>2732167
>>2732241
>>2732247
>>2732251
>>2732253
>>2732256
>>2732264
>>2732284
>>2732296
>>2732299
>>2732346
>>2732347
>>2732370
>>2732620
>>2732629
>>2732633
>>2732643
>>2733426
>>2733502
>>2733509
>>2733545
>>2733550
>>2733610
>>2733627
>>2733641
>>2733719
>>2733761
>>2733814
>let me guess
you need more","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716387901443710.jpg","filename":"mens-classic-roman-brown-sandals.jpg"},"posted":1716387901},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2734844,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734760
>let me guess
you need more","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716401019953752.jpg","filename":"image.jpg"},"posted":1716401019},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2734847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734844
>only the only shoe that conquered europe
lemme guess, you need more faggot","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716401447275915.png","filename":"block-3-socks-and-sandals-v2.png"},"posted":1716401447},{"board":"out","thread":2730547,"pid":2735054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734844
The sole is too thick","attachment":null,"posted":1716442606}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm looking for a GPS device that will track my hikes. There is a lot of federal land around where I live and I would like to go on day trips out into the woods to take photos, but I'm terrified of getting lost as there aren't any signage or really any marked trails. But after doing some googling, I can't seem to figure out what the feature would be called or what to look for.
I'd like to have the GPS remember my path and record my position at intervals, so if I get turned around I can retrace my steps. Can anyone tell me what I'm looking for or even better give me some device recommendations.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715896171655657.jpg","filename":"319167_25391_XL.jpg"},"posted":1715896171},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm not sure about handheld units, but the Garmin Instinct watch has built in GPS with a back to start feature that will retrace you along your path in, or give you a linear direction back to your start point. You can also drop GPS waypoints with custom labels and symbols directly on the watch and view/edit them on more detailed maps using the app. I assume any of their handheld units would have similar features.","attachment":null,"posted":1715897593},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732791
Thanks for that, I guess for Garmin it's called "TracBack" and it's available on several handheld models. But now that you mention it a watch may actually be more useful and less in the way than a handheld device when taking photos. I will think about it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715898059},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732794,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732793
I've had mine for 3.5 years and love it. I got the solar tactical version for better battery life and muh "tacticul black color" Great for hikes, biking, running, etc. Fully waterproof, dustproof, and highly durable with a $10 screen protector off Amazon. I use the GPS waypoints a lot hunting to mark treestands, scrapes, etc. and have found it very easy to select those points later and navigate back to them in the dark, with very high accuracy even in low reception areas.","attachment":null,"posted":1715899075},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732799,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I run an eTrex 22x almost exclusively for datalogging.
Keeping my phone on and recording with caltopo saps the battery, especially in the cold.
I'll pretrip with CalTopo, have it shit out a handful of key tracks/waypoints and squirt that into my eTrex. But i'm not usually "actively" navigating with the etrex.
Real nice to have waypoints with gate codes right on the GPS; as I ride up to a gate the code is right there. And when you get offroad or onto some of the private property/ranches/old FS roads that aren't well mapped, having a track for "the way" is nice to have. Doublecheck that i'm actually going the right direction and not on a spur road.
lol, captcha kysf","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715900404010236.jpg","filename":"i-Ppfd29C-L.jpg"},"posted":1715900404},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732789
What's wrong with using your phone?","attachment":null,"posted":1715915316},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732862,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732856
The thread lasted as long as it could. RIP","attachment":null,"posted":1715916227},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732863,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732789
Get the Big Garmin, you wont regret it. (Montana)
If you need a satphone built in the garmin 67 series is your bet.","attachment":null,"posted":1715916427},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732867,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"alltrails buddy","attachment":null,"posted":1715918089},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732870,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732799
what kind of bike do you have? I really want to get into adventure riding.","attachment":null,"posted":1715919101},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732882,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732789
garmin foretrex. small, light, has all the features you describe without gps maps meaning no subscription (you should print a map either way if its that serious), insane battery life, was above 80% battery at the end of a 5 day mountaineering trip where it was below freezing daily.","attachment":null,"posted":1715922006},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732862
I'm entirely convinced these anti-phone posters are paid by Garmin. A phone won't replace satellite comms but it's the best GPS solution by far.","attachment":null,"posted":1715926689},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732892,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732891
iphone 14 and later literally has sat comms in an emergency
>he's just realizing these are paid Garmin shills","attachment":null,"posted":1715927136},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732856
It eats up battery too fast.
I also don't understand how Garmin became the gold standard, was it the hardware? The UI is atrocious, you know you're bad at your job when freetard software like OsmAnd does it better.","attachment":null,"posted":1715930239},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732789
Just mark some trees along your way","attachment":null,"posted":1715936738},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732925,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732856
I want a dedicated device, my phone is old and the battery doesn't last nearly as long as it used too and plus I use it for music/audiobooks while I'm out doing photography, so having a separate device with a separate battery makes me feel more secure. Plus I am worried it will lose GPS signal or something, it drops signal while driving around on roads, so I don't trust it if shit goes sideways in the middle of nowhere.
>>2732862
I had to go to work.
>>2732799
Yeah I was looking at the eTrex 22 as it seemed to be what I needed and isn't crazy expensive.
>But i'm not usually "actively" navigating with the etrex.
This is the use-case I was imagining. I would just turn on the tracking and put it in my camera bag just in case I need it, I wouldn't be actively using it for anything, it's just a safety net since I won't have any cell signal to call someone if I get lost.","attachment":null,"posted":1715936920},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732936,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732791
>Garmin Instinct
Yeah bro, I just got the solar version and it's fucking sweet.
Got it just to track fitness (I can overlay altitude and heartrate along a route and compare rides as per pic. Blue is a slider, red HR, pink ALT)
I made this up as an example because I've managed to lock myself out of the online app and cbf sorting it out just now.
Anyway....
Battery for days. Weeks even.
Unbelievably simple to use the watch after an hour or so fiddling.
Also rolled the dice and got if off Ali, and 100% genuine arrived, brand new, just not original packaging. Fuck knows how this works, but it's about 30% of one from the shop here.
Garmin online recognises it as their product, updates etc etc. Fucking winner.
Synchs in a few seconds to my wireless speed and cadence sensors and I can follow it all on Strava too - stoked.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1103682210?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.1.4200f19cJWiVbX","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715940948693009.png","filename":"Screen Shot 2024-05-17 at 21.53.29.png"},"posted":1715940948},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2732953,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Get a used Pixel, slap lineageos on it, put osmand on it, use ADB to delete all the other apps that would otherwise distract you and/or drain your battery (they come back if you factory reset).
You're welcome.","attachment":null,"posted":1715952302},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2733003,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732862
I think the Cellphone spammers are pajeets paid by alltrails to shit up GPS threads.","attachment":null,"posted":1715965542},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2733004,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732892
Only a complete moron would ever buy an apple product.","attachment":null,"posted":1715965625},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2733143,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732870
KTM 1190 Adv R.
I also have a 525 enduro, much smaller (less than half the weight) bike.
The 1190's great, i've got a lot of work into it (suspension, regearing, and protection (skid plate, side stand relocate, crash bar reinforcement, subframe reinforcement)) to make it more dirt-capable. It's still a 600+lb motorcycle, with more power than anything on dirt should have. Breaks traction real easy, 1st gear is still too high in technical terrain, and if you're not at speed it'll overheat pretty quick.
The 525's a cheater bike compared to the 1190. It's still got plenty of power, but it's a lot more controllable and forgiving when you're abusing it offroad. I've got a lot of years riding dirt bikes/enduro/dualsport, so the 1190 wasn't too much of a jump for me and I knew what I needed to do to it to make it into what I wanted it for.
If it's your first bike, I'd recommend a dirt bike/dualsport first. Learn the fundamentals of riding offroad, and learn on something that's not gonna cost a fortune to repair. Dirt bikes crash pretty well.
If you're dead set on something adventurey, might look at the 790/890 class. They're still gonna be heavy offroad, but they'll do it a little more gracefully than a liter+ bike will.
I've done 300+ mile days on the 525 before. It's a lot, and you have virtually zero wind protection on the highway which wears you out quickly. I can do 300+ on the 1190 and while it's still a good day, it eats the miles a lot more comfortably at the expense of offroad performance.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715998557385464.jpg","filename":"i-s9m3tnx-L.jpg"},"posted":1715998557},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2733501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Spent a while last night getting Garmin Connect and watch to play nice with Strava.
Woke up today, stoked for an epic ride in the mountains - a few hrs up, a few minutes down.
Got to the start of the track.
Right, I'll just start tracking the ride from - GODDAMMIT!
Took my watch off when I had a shower.
>just use your phone bro
Fuck phones, I don't own one.","attachment":null,"posted":1716096256},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2733511,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732913
>>2732925
I used to share the opinion that a standalone device was better until I got a couple backup batteries. For emergencies in the car or while /out/ it makes sense anyway and they weigh just as much as a standalone device, but are cheaper. Gaia's pretty great.","attachment":null,"posted":1716100472},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2733547,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732791
instinct owner here. If you're going to rely on it like that, bring a way to keep the watch charged.","attachment":null,"posted":1716122612},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2733930,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733143
Thanks for the thoughts, im bouncing between a klr650 or dr650 for my motocamping setup.","attachment":null,"posted":1716176782},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2734403,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1716280513543269.png","filename":"Screen Shot 2024-05-21 at 20.34.37.png"},"posted":1716280513},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2734407,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733930
Both are good, I had the dr, did like 30,000km of touring on it and it was tight. Super simple and easy to work on, spare parts available in the shittest of shitholes. Definitely don't get a litre bike like that tard. The power is entirely wasted off road and the 650s have heaps on the highway anyway. Also if you drop a litre bike on your leg it's going to be a real bad day. Even with a regular drop it's a dog to pick up, especially in soft sand/mud or on a bad angle. Not to mention parts are retarded expensive.
Get yourself a good set of panniers too, I had a mosko moto pair and they were awesome but a bit pricey.","attachment":null,"posted":1716281893},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2734419,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734403
Getting lost on a motorbike is still getting lost. It's being lost but going faster, yet still being lost.","attachment":null,"posted":1716287642},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2734473,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734419
I just wanted to throw Adventure Bike Lite into the mix.
Anything over 400cc is a bastard to deal with unless you're going flat out on a gravel road or across a desert","attachment":null,"posted":1716300538},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2734485,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733930
Klr650 for touring, you can pack it like a mule but it is heavy, if doing majority trail rides they suggest a lighter more agile bike like a ktm 300","attachment":null,"posted":1716304261},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2734918,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2732789
My advice is to get something above the etrex 20x. I have the Gpsmap 65s, and it is noticeably faster UI-wise. If you plot routes and navigate after them a lot, it will save your sanity. I've had two etrex-devices in the past. Unfortunately I've lost both of them. One without noticing while going off trail and one I dropped while getting water from a dam. So if the device you are getting does not have it as standard, get a cabine-snap-hook attachment to avoid being an idiot like me.
I also recommend getting some openstreetmap-based maps for your device. I think all the Garmin devices support them these days, and they are usually more detailed and better in my opinion. Contour-lines are usually possible to get also. Plus, free updates of course. Check https://garmin.opentopomap.org/
Also, get some NiMH-batteries and bring spares if your are out for several days in a row. That way you can make sure to have newly charged batteries every trip. Good luck!","attachment":null,"posted":1716415290},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2735077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733511
A phone and a 20mah powerbank lets me ride for 4-5 days between recharges. A phone, a garmin and a 20mah powerbank lets me ride for 2 weeks. The weight would triple if I tried to replace the GPS with extra batteries.","attachment":null,"posted":1716450639},{"board":"out","thread":2732789,"pid":2735105,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2735077
*20Ah","attachment":null,"posted":1716463956}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2723263,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is this a good water filter?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713799150443834.jpg","filename":"signal-2024-03-13-171331_001.jpg"},"posted":1713799150},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2723264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723263
if you don't mind drinking phthalates, then yes","attachment":null,"posted":1713799344},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2723268,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723264
what's a better alternative?","attachment":null,"posted":1713799463},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2723270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723263
They have a reputation for clogging more often than the Squeeze.","attachment":null,"posted":1713799493},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2723277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723270
if price is not an issue what's the proffered filtration method?","attachment":null,"posted":1713800915},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2723278,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723263
Just get the regular squeeze","attachment":null,"posted":1713801190},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2723319,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723263
yes but just get the squeeze its not that big. regularly backflush it and it'll last you forever.","attachment":null,"posted":1713806884},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2723329,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723277
A Sawyer Squeeze or a Katafyn Beefree have better reviews. I’ve used a Squeeze for years with no issues. My preferred method is Aquamira but it’s not a very popular choice.","attachment":null,"posted":1713808078},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2723887,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723268
Do you want everything bad removed? Water to taste like bottled water even if drawn from sludge?
The buy a a FirstNeed Elite from General Ecology. Once you own one of thesr, you are loyal to it. Best purified water you can get: https://generalecology.com/product/first-need-xl-elite/
t. 25 years user 6/7 continents","attachment":null,"posted":1713917347},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724027,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723263
>no carbon filter to block at least some of the chemicals
>the "up to 100,000 gallons" claim without any actual studies to back it up
No, it's not a good filter if you want to camp more than once a year. Lifestraw is a healthier choice, but it's not what ultralight youtubers and influencers advertise.","attachment":null,"posted":1713955325},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724027
>source? Source?!
>I need a source
>SOURCE??!?
lol
>lifestraw
LMAO","attachment":null,"posted":1713957003},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724035,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724032
Enjoy your cancer.","attachment":null,"posted":1713957846},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724032
>>I need a source
>>SOURCE??!?
>lol
If you don't care about things like that, why won't you buy a no-name, made in china water filter? It will be 10 times cheaper.","attachment":null,"posted":1713958055},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724027
inb4 everyone on this board only goes to untouched mountain wilderness where agricultural runoff is not an issue","attachment":null,"posted":1713960181},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724041,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723887
This is an excellent purifier and one of only a few viable ones rated for a lot of chemical and metal contaminates. Excellent choice for questionable water sources.
>>2724038
Disagree. NA has many locations where you have both good water-quality info and hundreds or thousands of test cases. For many hiking areas, it is sufficient as long as your not drinking purposely out of sewage.","attachment":null,"posted":1713962055},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724036
Ok, how about providing some kind of study showing the effectiveness of a Lifestraw? I’m pretty sure Sawyer has some info on its stuff.
I really don’t care, and think both of you guys are faggits.","attachment":null,"posted":1713962550},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724047,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724042
>faggits
Rude. OP asks for opinions about his water filter and there was literally nothing wrong with pointing out issues with it or with offering an alternative you mongol.
>study showing the effectiveness of a Lifestraw
sure, np.: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2631/0778/files/Peak_Evidence_Dossier_Straw.pdf?v=1691688819
Pic related.
Good filters are also made by SAGAN, but I have no personal experiences with them:
>study about bacteria and viruses:
https://www.kellykettle.com/nletter/PDF/Sagan-DuraFlo-Water-Filter-700-Gallons-Bacteria-Cryptosporidium-550-Gallons-Virus-Challenge-BCS.pdf
>study about chemicals, like chlorine:
https://www.kellykettle.com/nletter/PDF/Sagan-DuraFlo-POOL-550-Chlorine-Copper-removal-study-BCS.pdf","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713963510568903.png","filename":"lifestraw.png"},"posted":1713963510},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724048,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724042
>I’m pretty sure Sawyer has some info on its stuff.
Pics or didn't happen.
I've been searching for it for a while and couldn't find anything.","attachment":null,"posted":1713963693},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724027
I work in an industry tangentially related to materials science. The rating on these filters is determined by a recognized guideline, either ASTM D6908 or ISO 20468. I know as a matter of fact that Sawyer contracts their testing through BCS, North Florida (whom I work closely with).
Their claim of filter efficacy and life is based on that testing. Lifestraw tests their filters by one of those standards as well, and probably contracts it to a company like BCS (ostensibly; as a large company they’d catch hell for not testing to a recognized standard practice). That’s where the claims come from. You can probably find the test results in their websites.
>just use a Lifestraw
Lifestraw is a brand, but we have to assume you’re talking about their most popular product. It has a worse flow rate, much shorter lifespan (1,000 gallons), and a filter that’s only half as effective as a Sawyer Squeeze (.2 microns vs .1 microns). Why recommend it?","attachment":null,"posted":1713964368},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724048
https://assets-global.website-files.com/61549f9352f3558157a226ea/65b90ce044b6c36111bee817_Sawyer%20122822%20Squeeze%20Microbial%20Filtration%20Efficacy%20Testing%20BCS2212370-71%2C%202301019.pdf
NTA
Took three seconds to google “sawyer mini test results”","attachment":null,"posted":1713964508},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724056
Yeah, and if you've spend 3 more seconds actually reading it, you'd see there's nothing about bacteria, viruses or when exactly were those tests concluded: did they test it on a brand new filters? After filtering 1000 gallons? After 100,000 gallons (like advertised)? We don't know.
There was plenty about speed of water flow, ph, hardness and what not, I'll give you that, but it's not transparent at all how used those filters were before being tested.
>>2724054
>You can probably find the test results in their websites.
Except I couldn't.
>Why recommend it?
Because not everyone has inside knowledge in the industry, like you claim to have (shocking, I know).","attachment":null,"posted":1713965158},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723263
>Faster flowing with the lighter, softer pouch
So have they upgraded from the old pouches?
>Is this a good water filter?
I'd assume just about any filter from Katadyn, Sawyer, MSR or other reputable brand should be fine. I find it hard to believe that it'll actually filter up to 100 000 gallons but with regural maintenance (backflushing in field and more thorough cleaning at home) people have gotten several years out of their filters.
Also if you want to extend the lifetime of your primary filter, then use a sediment filter (or run it trough a bandana, coffee filter or something) to prefilter the water before running it trough your main filter.
>>2724048
You could try emailing them.","attachment":null,"posted":1713965364},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724062
Sure I could e-mail them, but why trust a company that isn't very transparent about this stuff in the first place? There are better alternatives","attachment":null,"posted":1713965488},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724067,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">use same Sawyer Squeeze for years
>pretty normal conditions; not a crisp mountain stream but not trying to filter mud puddles
>getting a little slow, probably just a little clogged from years of use
>flush it when I get home
>sanitize with a bleach and water solution
>working great
>sudden illness in the family
>have to limit everything to day hikes for several months
>filter chills out in the closet with the rest of my stuff
>finally head out for a weekend trip
>whip out the filter and water bag
>filter 99% clogged, tiny trickle coming out
When I got home I looked up the manufacturers instructions for maintenance. Sure enough there’s an article on how to clean, sanitize, and store a filter. I was just going by shit I’d read on forums, but it was the same as the website.
Nowhere does anyone say shit about using distilled water. I searched and found a few people who had the same issue. The best guess is that municipal water supplies are so hard that calcium deposits start growing and aren’t flushed out with use, so they clog the filter.","attachment":null,"posted":1713965916},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724068,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724060","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713966107706219.jpg","filename":"A822224C-4284-4C29-B330-DB52B15617BC.jpg"},"posted":1713966107},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724068
>id they test it on a brand new filters? After filtering 1000 gallons? After 100,000 gallons (like advertised)? We don't know.","attachment":null,"posted":1713966253},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724072,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724070
>there’s nothing about bacteria
There is. Explain yourself. You were given the link, and looked it over. How could you have missed that?
>>2724070
>We don’t know [when they performed the test]
We do.
Now explain why you recommended the Lifestraw","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713966575229811.jpg","filename":"6A7C45DB-02D7-4A10-A48E-93AFC76F32DA.jpg"},"posted":1713966575},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724072
>initial performance
And that proves it will be a good filter after 1000 or 100,000 gallons how exactly?","attachment":null,"posted":1713966857},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724079,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724054
>Why recommend it?
Because it has a carbon filter, that's also where the lifespan comes from. Read, nigga, read.","attachment":null,"posted":1713967041},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724082,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724074
>testing of used material
Non-standard practice, though not unheard of.
The Lifestraw is less effective and has a worse flow rate. Not to mention its size makes it incompatible with SmartWater bottles. You still haven’t stated why you recommend it.","attachment":null,"posted":1713967210},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724067
this was my issue. i used a 50/50 mix of hot (not boiling) distilled water and vinegar. worked like brand new again. when i get back from trips, i back flush with distilled. night before i leave, i soak 50/50 vinegar distilled. no more problems since.","attachment":null,"posted":1713967246},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724070
They run these tests on brand new filters, because it would be nearby impossible to control the tests with used up filters. The minerals in water are way different in different places. How much sediment is getting in to the filter etc. The same filter that works well after 1000 litres in one place may get gunked up from just 100 litres at another place.
>>2724074
The way these Sawyer filters work is that they have very miniscule pores in the fibres that let the water trough. Even if the filter gets dirty from all the gunk, it should still never be able to let the nasties trough because the pores are not getting any larger from use. They just get stuff stuck in them. Meanwhile the activated carbon purifiers themselves keep on letting water trough even when they loose their effectiveness.","attachment":null,"posted":1713967503},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724092,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724082
>Non-standard practice
Company that goes beyond standards to provide a healthy product is better than one that does not.
And a company that makes claims about being great even after 100,000 gallons, without proving they've actually tested it, isn't as trustworthy as company promising you only 1000 gallons, but actually showing tests they did.
Also having a carbon filter is nice (as I've already mentioned in the first post). I think having one is more important than having a high flow rate.
>>2724087
>They run these tests on brand new filters, because it would be nearby impossible to control the tests with used up filters.
Somehow Lifestraw and Sagan managed to do just that. Seems like either skill issue or an attempt to hide how good or bad Sayer filters actually are.
>the pores are not getting any larger from use
They could get damaged through use and get bigger, if materials they used were subpar.","attachment":null,"posted":1713967790},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724082
It’s a larper. Only someone who’s never used a Lifestraw would think this is a good idea.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713967848218218.jpg","filename":"FA452BE2-2488-410E-98C2-63466FB69DDD.jpg"},"posted":1713967848},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724093
Wrong and wrong again. There are lifestraw filters designed to work with nalgene bottles for example.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713968099642714.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-04-24 at 16-14-06 LIFESTRAW Universal Kompatybilny Filtr Wody 4000L.png"},"posted":1713968099},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724096,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724095
>he does it for F R E E","attachment":null,"posted":1713968212},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724095
>I meant this other kind of Lifestraw and not the ubiquitous flagship model that’s also a genericization that literally everyone knows and associates with the name
Oh ok","attachment":null,"posted":1713968234},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724095
>still using Nalgenes
>”I’m not brand fucking new to this I swear”","attachment":null,"posted":1713968295},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724100
>he never camped during winter
>calls other larpers
are Sewyer jews paying you to shill for them?","attachment":null,"posted":1713968413},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724105,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724101
>using nalgenes during winter
>not using a steel bottle
bros, why are the larpers stuck in the 2000's?","attachment":null,"posted":1713968624},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724107,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724101
>winter
It’s April, and most of the year isn’t winter.","attachment":null,"posted":1713968700},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724114,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724095
>this sport cap is a great choice for sub-freezing temps
Doesn’t it freeze? I know my Nalgene bottles frog up, and I’ve had the tops get a little icy, and that’s only in Alabama “winters.” Wouldn’t a little sport cap like that get totally frozen?","attachment":null,"posted":1713969778},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724116,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724100
This, everyone knows that the canteen that you get issued during your conscription service in the Finnish Defence Forces is the true patricians choice.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713970483679165.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240424_175213_545.jpg"},"posted":1713970483},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724119,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724092
>if materials they used were subpar
Sawyer published this study about the strength of the hollow fibres they use in their filters.
https://assets-global.website-files.com/61549f9352f3558157a226ea/61549f9352f3551ea4a2334e_Sawyer-Hollow-Fiber-Filter-Strength-Test-2018-with-Cover-Page.pdf","attachment":null,"posted":1713971257},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724120,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724087
Materials tests as part of product QC are always done on new items for that exact reason. Testing done on used items shows the condition of that one particular item.","attachment":null,"posted":1713971274},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724159,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723263
I've never used the squeeze or micro, but I have a sawyer mini that I've been using to filter water on camping trips. It seems to do it's job. Several multi day trips, Several gallons of water I've drank, it tastes good, I've never gotten sick. So anecdotally it works. But I'm also filtering quickly moving creek or river water, not standing water.","attachment":null,"posted":1713983364},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724161,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724116
10 years later I can still taste that shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1713983766},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">yes, I do claim that my water filters last for hundreds of thousands of gallons of water
>no, I won't conduct any studies proving that; test showing that brand new filters work is more than enough
based","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713984331792845.png","filename":"53y53i.png"},"posted":1713984331},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724163,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724116
That's a Casio clasp isn't it son","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1713984771706087.jpg","filename":"20240424_205058.jpg"},"posted":1713984771},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724163
Naturally.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714090473827576.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240426_031205.jpg"},"posted":1714090473},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724857,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723263
I mean if it gets rid of Protozoa and ecoli id say it works great! Chemicals and other stuff won’t kill your (quickly at least) however giardia could in a couple of days depending how dehydrated you are.
I personally use a grayl, little bit more bulky and it only holds 700ml water internal, but it filters quick and I’ve used it on literal muddy creek water with deer shit nearby and had no issues (if anything it tasted better than tap water) however it’s bulky and people often complain about that.","attachment":null,"posted":1714161658},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724859,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724093
Lifestraws are great when you have water nearby, but how the fuck you going to transfer it to a container? They work great if you’re sleeping next to a cleanish body of water but if you’ve ever used a life straw you’ll know that you will be spending a fair amount of time sucking.
Sawyer squeeze is infinitely better because you can transfer it rather quickly to a secondary container or bladder","attachment":null,"posted":1714161856},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724866,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724859
>you will be spending a fair amount of time sucking
I don't see how's that a bad thing","attachment":null,"posted":1714162896},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2724973,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724857
I've been looking at the grayl myself. how useful would it be to fill a water bladder?","attachment":null,"posted":1714184077},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2725145,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724973
Well, for that you'd need to remove the bladder from the carrier. Otherwise it shouldn't be too complicated. With a Katadyn Hiker Pro you could pump the water straight in to the bladder via the same hose you drink out of, without having the need to remove the bladder from the carrier.","attachment":null,"posted":1714239179},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2726927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bumperino for the water filtration thread","attachment":null,"posted":1714638457},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2726998,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723329
> Katafyn Beefree
I considering buying the same because reviews are alright. Has anyone here used it or some of its equivalents?","attachment":null,"posted":1714660621},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2727097,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've used mine once. It tasted good and I wasn't sick. So yeah.","attachment":null,"posted":1714670546},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2727188,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726998
I bought one after seeing an acquaintance use one. Huge improvement over the Sawyer I had in terms of how quickly you can filter water and how easy it is to clean","attachment":null,"posted":1714681882},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2727411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723887
Ok but do I need this to filter giardia out of an alpine stream? $80 replacement filter, and I thought Katadyn was a rip-off","attachment":null,"posted":1714739117},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2727418,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727411
There are cheaper and smaller filters, such as the katadyn befree or sawyer squeeze (whatever size you prefer). I am considering buying the katadyn befree, looks like a neat little filtration system.","attachment":null,"posted":1714740002},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2727480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2726998
I swear by the Platypus Quickdraw. I'm thoroughly convinced that Sawyer pays to have its product claimed to be "#1" so that it can inflate its prices. The Quickdraw is priced at half the price of a Squeeze and performs just as well if not better, especially in terms of flowrate.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1714749215874026.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1714749215},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2727517,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727411
Unless you plan on drinking water with chemicals, toxins or heavy metals that need to be neutralized with activated charcoal, any of the micro pore filters should do. They will filter out giardia as well as any other water born bacteria.","attachment":null,"posted":1714755877},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2728435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"katadyn befree has exposed micropore tubes. These tubes are delicate. I'd be concerned with them becoming damaged and allowing unfiltered water through without you knowing until you're shitting your pants","attachment":null,"posted":1714936287},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729121,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2728435
They aren't that exposed, you can't touch nor tamper them. How would they get damaged from regural use?","attachment":null,"posted":1715066122},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729123,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729121
They look pretty exposed and easy to damage to me. Accidentally drop it in gravel at the creek or somewhere a twig or something can get in there. I just think it looks easy to damage to me. Feel free to disagree.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715066626198112.jpg","filename":"BeFree_EZ-Clean Membrane_Replacement Cartridge.jpg"},"posted":1715066626},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729329,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727517
>Unless you plan on drinking water with chemicals, toxins or heavy metals that need to be neutralized with activated charcoal..
yeah no, the thing about life straws are, you don't really plan on fucking using them and when you do, you certainly don't have the privledge of deciding how clean the puddle you're drinking out of is. Go be a retard somewhere else.","attachment":null,"posted":1715111238},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729339,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729329
People in this thread claim they use them as their primary water treatment.","attachment":null,"posted":1715112391},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729351,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729329
You're the retard, what point are you even arguing?","attachment":null,"posted":1715113644},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729362,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729123
The perforated part goes inside a water bottle. The only time you could cram a stick through the holes is when you're refilling.
The real drawback of these types of filters is that freezing reduces their efficacy with no indication that it's happened. Still better than the alternatives.","attachment":null,"posted":1715114923},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729329
>the thing about life straws are, you don't really plan on fucking using them.
Yeah, some of us actually do. I plan my hiking and camping trips around using my sawyer. I don't bring water with me. I also don't drink out of fucking puddles. We're talking about general /out/ not post apocalypse/SHTF bug out. Go LARP about that somewhere else. If you go out somewhere that your main source of water is puddles....where the fuck even would that be...then plan for that and bring your heavy ass, expensive charcoal filter. You play how you want to, But don't try and tell me that I have to plan on drinking from puddles when I'm on a fucking river.","attachment":null,"posted":1715115815},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729366
So you walk around drinking with a life straw without needing to, and calling ME the LARPer? uh-huh bud whatever you say. Let me guess, European?","attachment":null,"posted":1715116682},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729375,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729374
carry a couple ounce filter...carry several pounds of warer. Dude, you're an idiot, just stop","attachment":null,"posted":1715116853},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729381,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729375
So you're too weak to carry a few kg of water into the bush. Thanks for confirming you're European","attachment":null,"posted":1715117611},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729382,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729375
oh also
>there's always water wherever I go
You Euroz don't truly go /out/.","attachment":null,"posted":1715117675},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729385,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729381
1 gal water 8lbs, 5 days of water 40lbs. Thanks retard /in/ confirmed","attachment":null,"posted":1715117725},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729387,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729385
I have no problem hauling 40lbs of water on my back, do you?","attachment":null,"posted":1715118045},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729388,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729387
I would love to see you haul 40 lbs of water and another 40lbs of gear 10 miles a day. /in/ confirmed","attachment":null,"posted":1715118130},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729389,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729388
I'd haul it 20 miles a day and I wouldn't even drink any. you're a pussy","attachment":null,"posted":1715118196},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729641,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729388
NTA, but that's pretty much how we did it during my conscription on the week long reconnaissance exercises if we did not get supply caches or usable water sources in the operation areas.","attachment":null,"posted":1715178039},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729388
You can just say you haven't been in the military anon, being a civilian isn't stigmatized","attachment":null,"posted":1715178692},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723263
No. The Sawyer mini is much better, despite being cheaper. I use both, since the mini won't fit into my minimal hiking pack (basically a canteen pouch with a side pocket).
- The mini has more flow through, at least with mine.
- The mini is safer. On the mini, the center part that you grip is recessed. That way, droplets of (possibly contaminated) water get caught on the rim and don't make it into the clean water. On the micro, they drop straight down.
Generally though, going by stats, the sawyer are by far the best pocket filters on the market, and performance wise, they're sufficient unless you're drinking form a source that's chemically contaminated.","attachment":null,"posted":1715184946},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729382
>you're not /out/ unless you're in the desert
Shouldn't you be smuggling some mexicans?","attachment":null,"posted":1715185495},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729754,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2727480
ive had quickdraw, befree and the squeeze. ive done all the manu steps to backflush and maintain all of them. the squeeze just werks and faster. plus the squeeze has .1 micro filtration as opposed to the quickdraws .3","attachment":null,"posted":1715191431},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2729776,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723263
Do these filters deal with stagnant, muddy water OK? Am in a very swampy area, no fast-moving water let alone rivers of note.","attachment":null,"posted":1715193334},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2730128,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2729776
With proper backflushing/maintenance they should be okay. Katadyn Hiker pro has a removable filter protector that you can clean with the provided sponge in order to prolonge the life of the cartridge. If you prefer to run a bit cleaner water trough your filter, you can prefilter the water with a water filter bag first and then run it trough a dedicated filter.
Picrel is sold by helikon-tex and costs about 11€, fits 3 litres and takes some time to run the water trough. It can be used for only removing mud and sediment from the water. Running the water trough that and boiling it afterwards gives you clean enough water for consumption, as long as there won't be chemicals or heavy metals in the water. Originally used by British troops during WW2.
Using a filter bag and a hollow fibre filter feels a bit redundant to me and I wouldn't carry one but I am posting about it because I wanted to tell you about some options.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715265914616695.jpg","filename":"helikon-tex-survival-water-filter-bag_orig.jpg"},"posted":1715265914},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2730134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730128
Thanks anon, prefiltering sounds like the way to go for me.","attachment":null,"posted":1715267400},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2730399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724027
Don't have a problem with either brand (I carry both) but I highly doubt Lifestraw & Sawyers claims about its good for 4000 litres & up to 100,000 gallons. Must be pretty clean water sources their testing, not real world back country testing.
Funny how there all made & tested in China though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715322744},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2730402,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730128
>Originally used by British troops during WW2
Got issued one of these when in Aus army, never used it in 10 years of service. I own the one in pircel also, the issued one I had was just called a Milbank filter, it was made of a heavy duty thick canvas material, a lot more durable than pircel.","attachment":null,"posted":1715323126},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2730407,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724082
The new Lifestraw peaks are compatible with smartwater bottles, I'm impressed with the peak collapsible squeeze 1Ls modularity I bought afew months ago. Filters tiny though (not sure if thats a red flag), always good to carry a back up to my sawyer squeeze just in case.","attachment":null,"posted":1715324526},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2730447,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730399
4000 litres is possible. My sawyer mini is somewhere around 3000 now (VERY rough estimate) and still working fine. Had to backwash it dozens of times already though. I doubt I'll ever be able to verify the 400k litres lifetime, though","attachment":null,"posted":1715344284},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2730851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Do people really run their cooking water trough a filter? I mean I get it if the water itself is muddy and full of visible crap, but otherwise clear water doesn't need any excessive filtration other than maybe running trough a cloth to get rid of the sticks etc. That is since you are going to boil it for several minutes anyways for the food.
Boiling actually kills more than what you'd achieve with filtering trough a hollow fibre filter. For example, your typical hollow fibre filters are never stopping the viruses but the viruses die from heat anyways.
I personally only filter the water that I want to drink cold, I never bother with filtering if the water looks fine and I am boiling it for preparing my rice or pastas.","attachment":null,"posted":1715437863},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2730858,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2730851
no reason not to double it up with a filter and boiling","attachment":null,"posted":1715439353},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2730892,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I tested my lifestraw by drinking out of a really filthy puddle in the forest, and I didn't get sick. tasted kinda weird though","attachment":null,"posted":1715444839},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2731133,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm interested in exploring abandoned mining structures (not the mines themselves, I'm not THAT suicidal). If I'm going to drink the water in the area I'll need something that can remove chemical contaminants like heavy metals. any reasonably priced options?","attachment":null,"posted":1715519984},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2731135,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I guess this is the relevant thread to ask in, but are filters even a necessary bit of kit? I would think of you have access to flowing water then you can just grab some from the top and then boil/purify it without any concern for particulates. A little bit of dirt never hurt anyone anyways","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/out/1715520259391730.jpg","filename":"1704852315542748.jpg"},"posted":1715520259},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2731143,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731135
If you want to build up a fire every time you need to fill your water bottles then sure, rely on boiling.","attachment":null,"posted":1715521845},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2731443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731143
Ok then purification tablets?","attachment":null,"posted":1715572743},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2731474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724027
>chemicals are in the water where you go "out"
kid this board should be reserved for people who actually go outdoors, not to paid tailgating spots with paved parking lots and power hookups","attachment":null,"posted":1715578224},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2731487,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2731443
Yeah, they're fine. Filters work out cheaper in the long run but it's not like anyone is bankrupting themselves buying aquatabs.
Some tablets leave a chemical taste in the water and they're obviously not going to do anything about particulates in the water (but filtering through a bandanna is usually enough for that anyway).
Only major downside to purification tablets is that most of them are ineffective against cryptosporidium (or if they do work against crypto they require a 4h treatment time). On the other hand, filters don't generally work against viruses. In most areas crypto is a bigger threat than viruses but t b h you'll probably be fine with either.","attachment":null,"posted":1715580208},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2733255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What steps are required to prevent these filters,themselves,from becoming bacterial breeding grounds? I'm a little sketched out about carrying around a filter full of crud.Is there some sort of sterilization procedure recommended for any of these? Do they ever get moldy?","attachment":null,"posted":1716044417},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2733379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733255
FirstNeed Purifier instructs to draw a little bleach/water up the intake and outflow for lengthy storage. Otherwise, use alone jettisons any nasty debris. Just squirt the first issue into your source water and screw on the water bottle.","attachment":null,"posted":1716075719},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2733770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733255
Mold and bacteria require moisture and some sort of nutrient to grow and multiply. If you back flush them and then shake out any remaining water, you shouldn't have enough of either for them to multiply. You can run a light bleach solution through it if you're that concerned. I'm not sure if that will effect the life though(I don't see how it would).","attachment":null,"posted":1716155511},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2734005,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2724027
Lol, sawyer has been tested even by dumbnuts like you, turns out their claim is fine.","attachment":null,"posted":1716203320},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2734190,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734005
[citation needed]","attachment":null,"posted":1716235916},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2734191,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2734005
>missing the part about a carbon filter
Are you really that dumb or are you just pretending for the sake of bait-posting?","attachment":null,"posted":1716235978},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2734192,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2723887
I also am a First Need Chad but come on the regular Sawyer, not the micro that OP posted, is a pretty good water filter for half the price and definitely easier to use.","attachment":null,"posted":1716236123},{"board":"out","thread":2723263,"pid":2735238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>2733770
Sawyer itself recommends to flush the filter with diluted bleach solution after the season is over. https://www.sawyer.com/blog/section-hiker-how-to-clean-sanitize-and-store-a-water-filter-in-the-off-season","attachment":null,"posted":1716492648}]}