{"title":"Night Shots / Lowlight Thread (also Goodbye)","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286751,"name":"Fultron12","msg":"been a long time guys, having a kid and a fucking meth-head crazy dog AND being an arborist climbing trees year-round doesn't give me much time to shoot anymore. Other than the 3 or 4 opportunities I'm given to go shoot, i just don't really want to anymore.

This will probably be the last time i post here, some of these are new, taken with my trusty old Ricoh Gr i got way back in 2015 (which i never ONCE dealt with the *dust* issue), some with my Nikon d750, and a few from my Samsung S10/Google Pixel 7 phones.

A lot of these are going to be old files I've either re-edited, or old RAWs i never got around to touching, and just recently gave them my best shot. I will also add a few photos i think are my absolute best (i will label them as such), feel free to shit on as many of them as hard as you want, ill bite the pillow and take it dry.

Anyways, its been a great 10 years on this god forbidden board, and even though gear faggotry never slowed (in fact, it got worse, thanks Sony) you guys were the ones that taught me everything i know. From taking and giving criticism, to techniques and genuinely great advice, i got it from here (i still miss Bass). Thanks guys, its been fun.

Anyways, feel free to post any old or recent lowlight/night shots you've taken. It doesn't have to be recent either, post night shots from years ago that you're the most proud of, id love to see.

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I've heard everything from full frame is the only way to go, to sensor doesn't matter if you're good enough, to you shouldn't be shooting in low light anyway
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this is pretty nice anon, good job

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I can't find any of my old shots because it was 6 or 7 years ago that I last used this camera, but I used to take what I thought were pretty cool looking low light pictures on a shitty Canon G5 point and shoot. I'd set the iso as low as it would go and do anywhere from 3 to 15 second exposures depending on how much light there was. I was always impressed at how much detail it captured and I thought they came out great a lot of the time. Are there "better" options? sure, but it's not like you're just out of luck unless you get some camera that's specifically made for low light. hell i've even gotten some nice low light long exposure shots on my damn cell phone.
tl;dr don't worry about what camera you're using, have fun","attachment":null,"posted":1708661218},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286781,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4286776
look man, all i can say is the Ricoh Gr is an AMAZING little camera, doesnt really matter which version you get, i cant recommend it enough

dont worry about sensor sizes, worry more about good lenses. Your technique will always matter more than gear, you can take breathtaking low-light stuff with a nikon d3200 if you know what youre doing

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>why didnt you use your name on those as well?

i dunno, im an attention whore, ill admit, but i just only wanted to associate this name with lowlight stuff, made me feel special and made my dopamine go BRRR

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The B&W photos I was using a Ricoh GRD3 because the digital noise is good.
The color digital photos are a Nikon D700 With a 50mm F1.4, Auto ISO hand held.","attachment":null,"posted":1708662033},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286786,"name":"Fultron12","msg":"

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Fug you took this with a GR?
Jesus, I think all my time spent with gear reviews really skewed my perception","attachment":null,"posted":1708662190},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286788,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4286784
awesome man, i remember how much of a meme camera this thing was back in 2015-16, now its really common to see, i always believed in Uncle Ricoh

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How do you deal with using a TG6 in low light with no manual controls?","attachment":null,"posted":1708662253},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286790,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286776
bigger sensor help with noise, faster lens let you shoot with less noise, wider angle lens let you handhold longer, or expose longer before stars trail
m43 to aps-c to ff is ~1-1.5ish stops better each jump, really depend on what models you compare
going f5.6 to f2 lens lets you shoot 3 stops lower iso, much greater than going up once in sensor size
ibis help with handheld shots of static scenes, ranges from like 3 to 7ish stop, really depend on model
tripod or set camera down lets you shoot the best quality and often bigger difference than bigger sensor and faster lens even

so consider what lenses you want to use and how much handheld vs tripod
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Yeah the GRD is older than the GR and has a CCD sensor I bought it just for black and white.","attachment":null,"posted":1708662357},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286796,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4286788

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Is this genuinely where they shot that train scene in Breaking Bad?","attachment":null,"posted":1708662527},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286799,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4286797
lol no this is in Wyoming, lots of meth here though so youre close

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sensor size is the most expensive and least beneficial thing you can change for low light, you get way more stops by shooting with fast glass and a tripod/ibis than you do by spending thousands on full frame bodies with a stop of extra high iso DR.","attachment":null,"posted":1708663123},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286804,"name":"Fultron12","msg":"alright, the re-edits are posted, the rest will be the photos im most proud of taking, starting with the photos where i tried to be my own subject and did "stand there with my back to the camera" schtick

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So you set up your camera on the railing, ran downstairs, and hoped no one would steal your unattended camera or what?","attachment":null,"posted":1708663167},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286806,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4286805
yeah pretty much

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also lets all point and laugh at the awful framing and editing, together

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>boomer HDR","attachment":null,"posted":1708663655},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286822,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286804
Based. True art.","attachment":null,"posted":1708664101},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286826,"name":"Fultron12","msg":"like the ONE decent photo i ever got with my Fuji XT20

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lmao i know

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American Football house?","attachment":null,"posted":1708665340},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286836,"name":"Fultron12","msg":"ill also post a few low-light portraits ive done, because its my thread

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i sorta thought that too when i took that

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i promise that was the last portrait, now back to my ken-saturated nightscapes

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Checked and this is my favorite, very kino and cinematic. Feels like a poster for a indie horror movie.

Also I know exactly what this bitch smells like just by looking at her lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1708666879},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286852,"name":"Fultron12","msg":"this was the first photo i posted that actually got a pretty good response

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goddamn this looks good, thanks for sharing","attachment":null,"posted":1708667147},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286857,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4286851
thanks man! she was really cool, not nearly as loud and obnoxious as she looks

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thanks m8 :)

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What's with the lighting","attachment":null,"posted":1708667466},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286863,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286857
>not nearly as loud and obnoxious as she looks
Well that's good. But seriously all of these are super impressive. It looks like you're using additional lighting, is it just a flash or what does your setup look like?","attachment":null,"posted":1708667475},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286864,"name":"Fultron12","msg":"

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its just ambient lighting, street lights mostly, sometimes its the headlights on my car

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So for those portraits, it was my nikon d750 on a tripod, with a BEAST of a lens on it, the Sigma Art 105mm at f/1.8, and i would stand by with my Wescott ice light to light them

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This one is atrocious","attachment":null,"posted":1708668033},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286872,"name":"Fultron12","msg":"

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oh my god i know, i post it because at the time i literally thought "this is it, this is my finest work" and now i look at the piss grass and it makes me cringe

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>>4286832
Just looking through the rest of the thread, I also really enjoy these.

>>4286869
That is a big boy for sure. Luv me Sigma's.

I've never heard of these before. I'll have to pick one up if I ever do portraits again. The photo looks a lot more impressive than just a single extra light. You have a real talent for portraits. How do you find models, are they just your friends or?","attachment":null,"posted":1708668440},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286886,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4286881
Thanks man!

>how do i find models?

i search for local ones through facebook or instagram, and i pay them for their work, that isnt common though, the vast majority of my portraits are for like Senior school portraits

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It makes me feel like I should really create a facebook. I deleted mine years ago. But I keep hearing it's one of the better ways to connect with models and also you get marketplace, craiglist is dead","attachment":null,"posted":1708669487},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286903,"name":"Fultron12","msg":"forgot this recent one from my Pixel 7

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Holy shit that is a cringe post.","attachment":null,"posted":1708670252},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286917,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286916
>no fun allowed
Let me guess, you shoot Sony and you shoot weddings","attachment":null,"posted":1708670291},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286918,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4286914
lol thanks man

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Neither is use picrel and shoot gay porn.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1708670515744805.jpg","filename":"il_fullxfull.716518931_8ey8-1167974102.jpg"},"posted":1708670515},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286924,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286913
boring
>>4286914
cringe
>>4286861
>>4286842
>>4286840
>>4286804
giga-based","attachment":null,"posted":1708670532},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286925,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4286919
no im in a small town in wyoming, zero light pollution and some strange colored street lights, its a dream for night lighting

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Why can't modern cameras have colour","attachment":null,"posted":1708670545},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286926
What does he mean by this?","attachment":null,"posted":1708670609},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286926
>nikon zf
>nikon zfc
>BUT IDS NAD 61MP 9 SOTP IBIS 500FPS...","attachment":null,"posted":1708670612},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286927
Cameras are either black, silver or black and silver","attachment":null,"posted":1708670648},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286929
Canon makes white cameras sometimes for the entry level stuff","attachment":null,"posted":1708670714},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286932,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286929
Appeals to the most people I guess, Every camera I own is black or silver.
But I also don't want some loud ass camera hanging around my neck.","attachment":null,"posted":1708670734},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286933,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4286924
thanks for the thoughts m8

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>>4286927
>>4286928
>>4286929
>>4286931
>>4286932
boys, boys, enough with the gear youre going to make me cry

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Keep posting your stuff (or shitting on mine) i love seeing it

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Godspeed Anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1708671352},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286946,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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I'll miss you bro :(","attachment":null,"posted":1708673314},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4286953,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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>>4286913
>>4286918
>>4286920
What's the trick to capturing the sky to look like that? Or is it all edited to look that way?","attachment":null,"posted":1708738415},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4287313
why are you french","attachment":null,"posted":1708739114},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286875
loving this one, how did you get the lights to look like that? I'm assuming it's in the edition but want to believe it's nearly SOOC like you wouldn't believe
>>4286869
What about the colored light? Just stuff that was there?","attachment":null,"posted":1708739324},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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Thank you for posting here, in spite of how much this place has degraded. Wishing you the best in you RL endeavors.","attachment":null,"posted":1708786880},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287530,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4287348
its all one exposure, none of these are stacks or multiple shots. the trick is 1.) shoot near ambient light, like street lamps or signs, or car headlights. 2.) shoot on very bright starry nights (if there is a full moon, you wont have any stars, avoid shooting with the moon fully out)

i lucked out by being cursed to live in Wyoming where even in the city, light pollution is very low, so out in rural areas, the sky really does look like this

>>4287353
both of the lighting situations to those photos are like i said 100% just ambient street lighting, my old town i live in has a bunch of street lights with different burning chemicals in them, so one light may be blue, another green, and another orange. Other than some heavy Lightroom/photoshop boosting to highlights and colors, it is 95% SOOC

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How the fuck did you do that?

Also goodbye fultron, your shit was always overcooked and saturated, but it was usually consistently good shit","attachment":null,"posted":1708825653},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4287352
I'm not.","attachment":null,"posted":1708826781},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287801,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4287761
thanks m8, and its just street lights, plus the red is coming from my cars brake lights

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went out yesterday just to dick around

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Love this. I really like the noise I've been seeing from the olympus cameras","attachment":null,"posted":1708851140},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287880,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4287878
that noise is capture one film grain. here's a b&w version without any added grain

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That's a little disappointing, still a nice shot. I wish it was framed further to the right though the light in the bottom left is distracting and the power pole is cut in half awkwardly on the right.","attachment":null,"posted":1708851494},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287884,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4287880
Where is this Anon?","attachment":null,"posted":1708851607},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4287884
germany ruhrgebiet industrial gulag","attachment":null,"posted":1708852479},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4287889
There's a spot in my city that looks almost identical with power lines, rail tracks and industrial shit almost all the same spots, But looking closer no giant cooling tower.
I am in Alberta Canada.","attachment":null,"posted":1708852608},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287960,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1708877256690863.jpg","filename":"Unbenannt.jpg"},"posted":1708877256},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287969,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4287801
Goddamn that’s fucking wicked

>>4287876
This is a great shot, could still brighten it up I think","attachment":null,"posted":1708878276},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4287971,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"it's not focused properly, but i like the composition

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This site is free, though, you don't have to cancel a subscription.
Thanks for posting. If nothing else, maybe this thread will push me to go out at night again, with a tripod this time.

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This is awesome","attachment":null,"posted":1708885616},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4288271,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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Well mate, I'm sorry to see you go.
When I first came here, some of your shots really inspired me.
My life moved on too, and likewise I've hardly time to shoot anything; so I get it. But I do hope you reconsider, find your passion again, or at least still check in.
Either way, thanks for sharing and have a good one

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thanks man! photography (especially portraits) are still my lifes passion, but with a 2 year old that shares my ADHD, i barely have any time, and when i do, its rushed or i feel guilty about it lol

my plan is (hopefully) my daughter will show an interest in it and i can teach her :)

>When I first came here, some of your shots really inspired me.

wow man that warms my heart, best compliment i could ever get, thank you :)

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thats awesome to hear dude, im in Wyoming, where you shooting from? and dude, the old Midwest/rust belt is THE best place for night shots, all the alleys, old cars, powerlines are fucking cheat-codes for instantly great low-light stuff

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gotta say i saved some of the photos in this thread, i like nightshots a lot. i don't have my DSLR here, just this shitty phone, but it's still fun to go out at night and scan through the neighborhood. got an old canon digicam from like 2005 or something, will have to see if its any good at all.
picrel another phone pic here from norway

I'd love to go to the US sometime, esp. for the national parks, the Devils Tower and all that. and , like you mentioned, for the rust belt and all those cheap motel countryside shitholes and trailerparks","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1708995793094588.jpg","filename":"window.jpg"},"posted":1708995793},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4288494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4288272
>this kino shot was taken with a $200 casio meme cam
Gear really is a meme isn't it","attachment":null,"posted":1708995856},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4288518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4288492
Do you know Willem Verbeeck?
This looks straight out of this video
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thanks man thats so cool to know :) and dude i bet norway got so many great spots to shoot at

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i really love this shot, this is how i wouldve edited that

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same with this shot, such a sick shot

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It’s nice to see that we aren’t all trash on this board. Or a broken clock is right twice a day, who knows, lol. Nice image","attachment":null,"posted":1709006020},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4288586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4288518
yep that's about right, same general area.
the Norwegians have crazy bright street lights and they love christmas lights, so I guess you could base a living just on importing and selling christmas lights. when there's lots of snow, it's actually not "that" dark, because it reflects so much scattered light from all around.

>>4288519
it is quite magical, bc it's so remote and you can find so many derelict houses, old fish drying stands, ruins. i like their architecture and from january to march, the sunlight during the day slowly increases and you have the most amazing, very long lasting sunsets. i'm not exaggerating when i say i've never seen such colors in my entire life.
I recon it must be kinda similar in Canada and Alaska. i would love to go there some time.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1709039613043403.jpg","filename":"huset.jpg"},"posted":1709039613},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4288587,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4288519
that's a damn good portrait btw

>>4288485
i love those kind of headlight shots","attachment":null,"posted":1709039727},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4288595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4288052
>>4288522
>>4288523
thank you
maybe im really editing on a monitor with too much brightness","attachment":null,"posted":1709042958},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4289007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4288586
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your brightness is fine. that guy is ken rockwelling your photos.

no one should ever listen to or imitate ken rockwell. he's basically cANON, and overly extended joke.","attachment":null,"posted":1709155333},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4289017,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4289016
cANON is Fultron12's alter ego, I thought everyone would have figured this by now. His jealousy of Ambush gave it away from the get go for me.","attachment":null,"posted":1709155557},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4289043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4289007
thx man, Todd Hido is new to me. just checked out his works - awesome! thanks for the hint!","attachment":null,"posted":1709162484},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4289044,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4289016
You act like there is something imperfect with this","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1709162688513562.png","filename":"Untitled.png"},"posted":1709162688},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4289050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4289017
He does over shiturate his stuff but the rest of the photo itself more than holds up, like the subject, lighting and framing, most of the time…>>4288484 is such a stupid fucking photo.

>>4286925 is also just plain bad, and it’s the least shiturated of what he’s posted","attachment":null,"posted":1709165372},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4289425,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4289050
yeah thats been a persistent problem for me, part of the issue is that i edit on my big 'ol 4k monitor that isnt calibrated, so on my monitor the colors arent nearly as saturated as when i finally export and look on my phone, i also need to admit that i just love super colorful photos ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ you win guys, im Ken's bottom bitch

>>4289016
>>4289017
oh man i forgot about those guys, i can assure you i am not cANON, ive only ever shot with either my phones, my Ricoh, or my Nikon d750, you got legit criticism though so i appreciate the honesty

>>4288586
god DAMN what a sick shot, straight from Todd Hido or Patrick Joust

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My personal Favorites were the Portra Pushed for portraits, and i especially love the Fuji Astia presets

>https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/11megnk6vi0vt4bb0iln9/h?rlkey=qput6v9mvwy3eza316cs7h6gp&dl=0

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¯\\_(ツ)_/¯

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>god DAMN what a sick shot, straight from Todd Hido or Patrick Joust

I like those headlight shots against the dawn / sunset. i got one or two ideas for car headlights, never gotten to realizing them.
did you shoot that just out of the car window?

I'm genuinely glad I found /p/ because you guys bring photographers to my attention that I haven't heard of. Hido and Joust are brilliant.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1709287650915990.jpg","filename":"SNOW LIGHTS s_20240228_214159_063.jpg_original.jpg"},"posted":1709287650},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4290233,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286926
>>4286929
Gotta get a silicone camera cover. Then you can have all the colours you want.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1709430746266797.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240302-204959.png"},"posted":1709430746},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4290261,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1709443920206180.jpg","filename":"office1.jpg"},"posted":1709443920},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291080,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's not time for this thread to die yet.","attachment":null,"posted":1709650765},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291081,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4290261
>phototube_circlejerk_125254.jpg","attachment":null,"posted":1709651265},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291204,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4291081
What does this even mean?","attachment":null,"posted":1709670786},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291212,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4291204
it means he's mad that you posted a nice image instead of someone walking through a crosswalk or a photo of a bird

There exists a divide in photography that no one really ever talks about which is "documentarian" photographers, "narrative" photographers and "thematic"photographers. All of them hate each other's photos. This is a thematic photo, and he is either a documentarian or a narrative photographer, so he thinks it's stupid","attachment":null,"posted":1709671845},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4291212
I’ll die on the hill that not every photo needs to “tell a story” a photo can be nothing but nice to look at or well composed and still be great photography","attachment":null,"posted":1709689898},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4291212
Where does abstract fit?","attachment":null,"posted":1709745148},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291633,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4291081
>isn't a blurry black and white photo of a random americans head
Uh yikes","attachment":null,"posted":1709755932},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291640,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4291548
Probably thematic. Evoking a vibe, concept or an emotion. Any genre of photography can fall into any of those categories. It's more about what you're trying to do than what you take photos of, although certain genre's do attract specific photographers for a reason.","attachment":null,"posted":1709758529},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4291080
I feel you, first good thread in a while","attachment":null,"posted":1709777989},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4291081
>>4291633
Just because it's not str**t trash it doesn't mean posting grainydays tier garbage is acceptable","attachment":null,"posted":1709780153},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4291780,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4291778
Post photos","attachment":null,"posted":1709780384},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4292378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bump, do not die on me","attachment":null,"posted":1709921297},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4292422,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4291778
*puts on beanie*
*packs dank into a vape*
*takes a deeeep puff*
Brooooo... film.

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>vhs insert sound
>cassette tape insert sound
>massive vocal fry
>paradoxical set up where you pretend you're just some average poor guy but have studio lighting and an entire staff
>portra 400","attachment":null,"posted":1709939408},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4292502,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4292422
i never cared much for film personally, the only person i know doing really neat things with it is Susu Laroche

>pic Related

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I hate grainydays so much its unreal","attachment":null,"posted":1710287647},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4294510,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4293839
I like it","attachment":null,"posted":1710410626},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4297909,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4293839
feels like a horror film. or xbox360 era game.","attachment":null,"posted":1711309385},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4297910,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4293839
it has a certain je nais se quois which transcends all of the other issues.","attachment":null,"posted":1711309491},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4298962,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286751
you can't leave us
your kid, your dog, and your job are temporary, /p/ is eternal","attachment":null,"posted":1711624960},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4299430,"name":"Fultron12","msg":">>4298962
thanks m8, but as much as ill miss the gearfaggotry and the occasional great photo, its time for me to go. ive sold most of my stuff already just to help me move on, its a new chapter in my life. (just my lights and my nikon + lenses, my Ricoh will be buried with me)

if my daughter ever wants to pick up a camera, ill be there to encourage her.","attachment":null,"posted":1711758424},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4299512,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299430
Bro I'm a newfag to all this 4chan shit. do you have a website or something? I need to look at more of your work. I can't find a good /p/ archive.","attachment":null,"posted":1711796624},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4300097,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Shot this a couple of days ago in japan

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I only got one photo I liked. Thoughts?

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creepy alien vibes

>>4286788
I like the lighting and colors here but this should be perspective corrected I think

>>4286829
really nice lighting here.

>>4286830
creepy but the sky wasnt this red right?

>>4286840
cool lighting

>>4286869
i enjoy the scenery but the colors are a bit too funky for me. would try to calm them down

>>4286886
love the background

>>4286918
this is cool once you correct the perspective","attachment":null,"posted":1712529984},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4302542,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286788

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Recognised it as norway instantly, really is something about them street lights","attachment":null,"posted":1714430752},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4308769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286913
Love the Pleiades, very nice","attachment":null,"posted":1714444747},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4313144,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"welp, you had a good run Fultron12, best of luck to ya","attachment":null,"posted":1715556858},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4313145,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">tri-x pushed to 12,600
>taken at night with no extra light source

I should have had a longer exposure, excuse the water I took this right after development.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715559128534906.png","filename":"IMG_4714.png"},"posted":1715559128},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4313211,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286803
>you get way more stops by shooting with fast glass and a tripod/ibis than you do by spending thousands on full frame bodies with a stop of extra high iso DR.
Implying that you can't also use fast glass, a tripod, and ibis with full frame bodies to be even better with that extra stop","attachment":null,"posted":1715573526},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4313216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4286803
yeah you enjoy those $1000 “fast” manual focus only f0.9s that work out to f1.8s
the zooms are in an even worse situation
crop lenses rarely get as fast (equivalence includes aperture and iso) while also being as good and going on cameras worth using (not foolji)

also equivalence cant include megapixels and more pixels makes it possible to hide digital fuckups and get more filmic photos or to use two effective sensor sizes in one body","attachment":null,"posted":1715574229},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4313218,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313211
IBIS is also of questionable use (its more of a video feature, the rated stops require you to be bunched up against yourself and leaning against something) and if you’re using a tripod irrespective of subject movement (none is implied) you can just shoot a full frame camera at base ISO all day

the measured base ISO of a d850 is 50. to get the same DR on m43 you’d need a base ISO of 12 or 25 on aps-c, but that lower iso also includes less exposure requiring insanely fast glass. which yeah, doesnt really exist in the same quality/tech class.","attachment":null,"posted":1715574437},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4313220,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313211
Non american opinion detected. Full frame cameras are $500 for a great, fairly modern DSLR and $750 for the best cheap mirrorless","attachment":null,"posted":1715575045},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4313221,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313220
>misquote
>cant delete posts
I quit","attachment":null,"posted":1715575146},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4313859,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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Define “low light.” I grabbed a Canon R6 because it can do 4k24 with a f/1.4 lens by near full moonlight. Full moon you can do 4k60. Which means you can easily do hand held by the same at a lower ISO (IBIS for slower shutter).

It’s actually overkill for most urban night shots though. Vegas as an example, you can get away with ISO 3200 no IS and 800 with IS. While I love FF, you can do most low light stuff with a modern aps-c and f/1.4 or f/2 lens, especially with IS.","attachment":null,"posted":1715784350},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4314013,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313218
No idea where you’re getting that impression of IBIS, it’s good for 4-5 stops on my R6 by itself, 6 with OIS, in the UWA to mild tele range, no leaning against anything. It kicks ass for non-IS glass.

But yes a tripod is the cheapest way to do low light assuming subject motion isn’t an issue. In that case you can even do film.","attachment":null,"posted":1715784895},{"board":"p","thread":4286751,"pid":4314022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314010
"low light" the way say, fujislugs do it, by just underexposing SOOC instead of overexposing to pull to taste and accepting copious amounts of motion blur, can be done on anything.

however stopping motion with thorough exposure and the lowest ISO you can manage requires FF+ and truly fast glass.
there's also the "equivalence is fucking fake thing"
>no equivalence between bayer and xtranny - bayer is superior in every way
>significantly larger pixels? no equivalence
>higher resolution? no equivalence
>video? larger pixels or higher resolution AND oversampled 4k = mogs crop hard","attachment":null,"posted":1715787082}]} {"title":"expired film","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4295767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"post photos you've taken on expired film
picrel is 1000iso 3m colorslide that expired in 1984

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70mm Mystery film I got with my linhof cine back. Dark green backing. Thin negatives at 50 iso. I suspect it is a 12 or 25 speed film at this point.

When I get my dev kit I will develop more of the film. It's kinda cool...

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kodak ultramax 400 expired 2005 shot around 2015","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1710850443196394.jpg","filename":"tallinn.jpg"},"posted":1710850443},{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4296296,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296287
Oh nice, maybe I should find some rolls and put them in storage. Really digging the gloom.","attachment":null,"posted":1710859329},{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4296490,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"If i'm not so tired that I want to hang myself tomorrow I'll load my latest acquisition with some expired fujifilm and try to finish the roll the same day, then develop it in expired chemicals just for lolz","attachment":null,"posted":1710900253},{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4296505,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295913
>>4295916
Your sister had an eye for kino, get her on the board","attachment":null,"posted":1710905852},{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4296507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296505
>Your sister had an eye for kino, get her on the board
she really doesn't lol. half of them look like this or worse because she forgot to use the flash

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kino does not have to be properly exposed. She doesn't miss","attachment":null,"posted":1710906536},{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4296511,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296508
disagree. anyway here's a pic from another mystery disposable she had. the roll was me and my brother's birthdays from 2006, this is him with his first car. it took me a while to realize it but it's pitch black outside because the street lights hadn't been fixed yet after hurricane katrina","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1710906810608239.jpg","filename":"000372350002_copy.jpg"},"posted":1710906810},{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4297392,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4296490
Mmmm good enough

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nvm, overdevelopment plus expired film yields completely opaque film lmao oops","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711150918396538.jpg","filename":"darn.jpg"},"posted":1711150918},{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4301503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295767
20 year old Fuji superia 200 from my dad's Pentax, 16 photos out of 36 had anything visible

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your sister is a kinographer and you are just jealous, admit it","attachment":null,"posted":1712357639},{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4301671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295851
Why did you shave over it","attachment":null,"posted":1712412789},{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4301701,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295767
Svema DS 5m exp.1991

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I didn't take these but were on 2 rolls out of the lot I got off eBay as unused... likely shot in 2004 for a political publication and now I double exposed it and developed 20 years later. Interesting times. Guess the guy got too stoned to develop them and forgot lol.

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are you the one who posted the blue building in the train thread","attachment":null,"posted":1713983402},{"board":"p","thread":4295767,"pid":4307992,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307323
I am not, no

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I have a handful of expired film. Do you have tips on how to best get results? e.g. wrong iso and do I need to let the developer know about it?
Can't remember the details but this is on expired film. I just stuck in in the camera. Kodak something

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I'm doing a huge data migration and have had a second look at all of my early stuff when I had a Digital Rebel. I'll post stuff as I get through it and see it. This particular one is 2011.

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:(

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and my wannabe street phase, ~12 to 13 years ago
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This is NORDITA in stockholm?","attachment":null,"posted":1712449183},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4301855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298895
really nice
we don't fly them anymore","attachment":null,"posted":1712449589},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4301856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298901
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I was very pleased with this when I took it, it required some waiting around to catch a train on that trestle.

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>>4301904

>Santa Fe pre-BNSF merger

moar","attachment":null,"posted":1712551021},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4302221,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301904
SEX.","attachment":null,"posted":1712553269},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4302297,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302213
it was actually the during transition when ATSF and BN were mixing but they hadn't repainted anything in BNSF yet

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also was not long after the UP-SP merger

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buses have always been low class. buses have been been the mode of transport for people too poor to own a private vehicle, too poor to hire a taxi, and too lazy to ride a bike, since the days when the bus would have been horse pulled. trains, however, used to be classy and in some cases still are.","attachment":null,"posted":1712587052},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4302317,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302308
Mid-South was only a railroad from 1986 to 1994, in Mississippi and neighboring states.

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Trains are classy because they can have amenities on board

A bus is just cramming 50 dirty hobos into a hollowed out and stretched VW beetle","attachment":null,"posted":1712602520},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4303842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302412
japan can do busses right

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I regret never getting to see a shuttle launch. Based dude.","attachment":null,"posted":1713050324},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4304365,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301854
The building's called Alba Nova, but NORDITA seems like the kind of people whod' hang out there.","attachment":null,"posted":1713141292},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4308085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301854
Didn't know the name of the building, was hanging with some physics people in here once. Never thought I'd see a photo of somewhere I'd been too on /p/. In fact I took a similar shot while I was there.","attachment":null,"posted":1714242796},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4308378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hello, 1st post - trying to learn Taken with a Canon Powershot A75 in 2006.

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>>4298911
Sir that is the most beautiful thing I have seen in a long time

What
is that?","attachment":null,"posted":1714583600},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4310249,"name":"BurtGummer","msg":">>4309320
It'll be an architectural feature on some business in London. Sugars always farting around in the capital.","attachment":null,"posted":1714864041},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4310266,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4310249

Wall in Bikkrui Lounge, Orlando Florida.

I was ****very**** drunk when I made those","attachment":null,"posted":1714865637},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4310390,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298895
You did not take this photo.
Egy only photographs random people walking.","attachment":null,"posted":1714875047},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4310391,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299060
You gave them a refund, right?
Or at least delivered the RAWs so they can not live in cringe forever?
It's fine to suck, but giving baked JPEGs only should be a crime.","attachment":null,"posted":1714875129},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4310453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The more i look at old pictures, the more i think muh image quality is fucking pointless shit in cameras and photography. At least the image quality of today is sufficient. It's just very sophisticated advertisement of the market.","attachment":null,"posted":1714891808},{"board":"p","thread":4298895,"pid":4310508,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310391
lol no, everyone's gotta start somewhere, fine for what they needed at the time, no point in giving raws to a client
should contribute to the thread and share some of your old work","attachment":null,"posted":1714914782}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298286,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"ok your camera is cool but is it space worthy??

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why is that Z9 in that retarded white cover other than to make it even more difficult to use in those gloves","attachment":null,"posted":1711411646},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298299,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298286
>28mm
nasa confirmed snapshitters","attachment":null,"posted":1711413093},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298288
Probably additional protection against radiation, you dumbass.","attachment":null,"posted":1711452743},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298288
Its a d2xs or d5","attachment":null,"posted":1711466248},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298412,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298288
Noise reduction","attachment":null,"posted":1711467037},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298366
>no radiation sealing
Another embarrassment for Nikon!","attachment":null,"posted":1711468053},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298417,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298409
NASA just retired their d850s for Zsss.","attachment":null,"posted":1711468266},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298418,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298409
Yup, the z9 partnership doesn’t go to space until the Artemis iii mission.","attachment":null,"posted":1711468295},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298288
don't listen to the other retards who responded to you. it's in that soft case to cover the entire camera with a soft case. it may seem silly, but a hard edge can get snagged, and a snag during a spacewalk can be fatal - nasa doesn't like to take risks.
you can also notice that the soft case is entirely held to the camera with just Velcro, and there is one designated attachment point for the camera to link to the astronaut's gear.
>it just makes it harder to use
this is true, but likely you wouldn't be able to play with camera settings through the suit anyway. I would wager that the camera is configured for proper exposure and etc before it is even put into a soft case. remember that without an atmosphere, only certain specific angles are even possible to capture without extreme overexposure, so I can't imagine there is really any leeway for a space-walker to get creative with their subject or exposure.","attachment":null,"posted":1711473326},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298441,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298366
>>4298412
it's not a normal camera. nasa wouldn't just take a random earth camera up to space. that camera is specifically built with a hard, dense metal body which blocks radiation. the soft cover is unrelated.","attachment":null,"posted":1711473783},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298461,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298441
it pretty much is a regular camera with a radiation shield on top
your fanfiction doesn't matter","attachment":null,"posted":1711479372},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"lowest bidder","attachment":null,"posted":1711479513},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298464,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4298286

>go through all the effort of going to fucking space
>take one of the worst 28mm lenses Nikon ever made

definitely sounds like some shit the government would do","attachment":null,"posted":1711479519},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298469,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298464
Sugar aren't you a bit too old to still be posting here","attachment":null,"posted":1711481083},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298479,"name":"BurtGummer","msg":">>4298469
Arent you a little bit poor trash to still be posting here?","attachment":null,"posted":1711484180},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4298527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298461
>pretty much
just kys","attachment":null,"posted":1711489706},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4299046,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298288
kevlar cover, theres millions of tiny fine particles of random shit floating around that hit everything at like 4,000mph
being in space for extended periods of time is like being sandblasted constantly","attachment":null,"posted":1711651926},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4299157,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298286
Nasa recently got new cameras I don't remember what they're called","attachment":null,"posted":1711679812},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4299169,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299157
They were more nikons
https://www.nikon.com/company/news/2024/0207_mirrorless_03.html","attachment":null,"posted":1711682677},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4299301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298288
That's a Nikon F5","attachment":null,"posted":1711728346},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4299313,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298286
probably not","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711731041072808.jpg","filename":"96e3db22f33912ee4f35d0e3a3285543.jpg"},"posted":1711731041},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4301308,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298299
:) for the "curve"","attachment":null,"posted":1712285895},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4301310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Was the d2x the first dslr in space?","attachment":null,"posted":1712285955},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4302036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301310","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712502123376942.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-04-07 at 18-00-27 Nikon shoots for the stars Nikon Lenswear.png"},"posted":1712502123},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4302331,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298366
It's most likely to insulate it against extremes of hot and cold. Camera sensors don't work very well if he overheat. They may also put in some shielding for radiation because radiation tracks along CCD images are very hard to fix","attachment":null,"posted":1712588974},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4302333,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298463
Doubtful. When NASA partnered with Hasselblad to make cameras for the space program, they went all in to make sure the images were as good as possible. They use special plates with hash marks precisely measured so they could do accurate photometric work on the photographs, they built a special 500 El with a conductive plate inside so that static wouldn't build up in the camera as the film advances and generates a static charge, the lenses were all hand kicked out of the line and adjusted to produce the best results possible for each of them. All in NASA paid them somewhere over a million and a half dollars for about four dozen cameras, some 150 lenses, and Extras like 70 mm backs. I actually own one lens from the special group plus a spare EL body that they sold at auction in 1997.","attachment":null,"posted":1712589160},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4302334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302333
PS. In the Ron Howard film Apollo 13, you can see them throwing cameras Down the Hatch to put into the Command Module for reentry when the trying to balance off the weight difference from the lack of moon rocks. Ron was lucky enough to partner with somebody who knew where he could get these cameras from private collectors myself included. I didn't get to instruct the actors on how to use these cameras, the other person did who had more in it. Unfortunately when they were doing filming on board the vomit Comet for these scenes, they tossed the lens across the Gap too quickly in the mock-up, and the guy missed it and hit the wall and damaged it. One lens that NASA wanted, but they didn't get in time was the 105 F 4.3 UV Sonnar. By the time that was available, they'd already gotten a workaround lens from another company and adapted it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712589380},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4302659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">the best space pic ever

Sorry but if you aren’t shooting a hasselblad you aren’t trying.

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It's a nationwide hobby project, not the military. Their funding is justified different.
>military: spend as little money as possible, but also wantonly waste money on bullshit R&D and even flying tires back and forth to use more gas to show that you need your budget
>NASA: gimme five million dollars i want a cooler rocket
So they actually did buy the best camera they could afford. I'm sure a hasselblad SLR was available at the time but apparently their build quality's gone to shit over the years, so say hasselblad users.","attachment":null,"posted":1712677499},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4302762,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302715
NASA and pork go hand in hand, SLS is a good example of how they operate. spend way more to get as little in return as possible","attachment":null,"posted":1712686344},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4307449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298286
That lens fucking sucks. I have one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714022248},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4307922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"No, but I'm not space worthy either so it doesn't really matter.","attachment":null,"posted":1714169621},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4307959,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298286
people actually think men went to the moon
>meanwhile
>these gloves
>literal Shrek sized fingers
I'm not saying there aren't men with huge ass hands on this earth, but even if the moon were real, we wouldn't be sending a giant up to it.
Just like we don't have giants racing horses.

My camera is cool and has actually went someplace cool, a coral reef, no camera has been to space as the earth is flt and a the moon is a projection originating from the secret labs on Antarctica.","attachment":null,"posted":1714179233},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4307968,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307959","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714179785108904.jpg","filename":"160254925.jpg"},"posted":1714179785},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4307974,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307968
If space is real, tell me.
What does it smell like?
What does it look like?
What does it taste like?
What does it feel like?
What does it sound like?
What does it auids like?","attachment":null,"posted":1714180559},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4307989,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I think they used a F5 back in the day, I have a F5, so I guess my camera is cool and "space worthy"","attachment":null,"posted":1714191562},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4308704,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298286
I donno
if it's water proof then it can survive in that space water tank lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714430937},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4308827,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Even shitty sonys are space worthy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoQ8IU81wZU","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714477490800597.png","filename":"1699959123319990.png"},"posted":1714477490},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4309500,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298412
kek","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714636342430582.jpg","filename":"1632414029282.jpg"},"posted":1714636342},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4309506,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298286
I use a Pentax of course it is","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714647378776748.png","filename":"img-thing_sm.png"},"posted":1714647378},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4309514,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309506
It's worthy of being blown out the air lock.","attachment":null,"posted":1714648924},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4309517,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309514
meanie","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714649664831374.png","filename":"img-thing.png"},"posted":1714649664},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4310289,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308827
You realize Sony donated money to partner with them so they'd bring this junk into orbit for advertising purposes, right?
Space niggers do real imaging. Imaging. Read the word. Imaging. Not photography. A consumer "photography" camera has no purpose in space.

They use raw sensors without color filters and swap custom filters for capturing real images with known wavelengths.
If they're bringing meme cameras to film the crew inside the human habitable zones, well, that's not much of an accomplishment is it? If it's fit for humans, of course any camera should work.","attachment":null,"posted":1714868667},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4310292,"name":"Zach","msg":"Did you know on the moon landing Zeiss had a specially manufactured lens that Stanley Kubrick used in Barry Lyndon?","attachment":null,"posted":1714869083},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4310462,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310292
Yes. Here's a good video on the subject for anyone who can stand the German accent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p5E7iXxeQE","attachment":null,"posted":1714893771},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4311100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298286
I would gladly fire my S1R into the sun if that counts.
I might have to send Elon an message and see what we can do.","attachment":null,"posted":1715052620},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4311102,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298437
>so I can't imagine there is really any leeway for a space-walker to get creative with their subject or exposure.
Perhaps the ultimate ever f8 and show up.","attachment":null,"posted":1715053647},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4311136,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302659
>turns out that the Earth is neither round or flat, it's half a sphere
holy shit","attachment":null,"posted":1715062111},{"board":"p","thread":4298286,"pid":4311348,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311136
Rainbows come from the dome.","attachment":null,"posted":1715099810}]} {"title":"Used Cameras Shop","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"been thinking for awhile about maybe opening up my own Used Cameras Shop but not entirely sure where to start or what I need to do in order to get it off the ground and not just be an idea but a plan I can get into action with","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1710548995811684.jpg","filename":"used-camera-box-eyexplore.jpg"},"posted":1710548995},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295219
Buy someone elses entire camera shop.","attachment":null,"posted":1710549814},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295278,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295219
gonna need to stock up on used cameras for starts
might want to consider branching out and selling the lenses as well","attachment":null,"posted":1710568989},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295313,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295278
>gonna need to stock up on used cameras for starts
kk right will have to look into that","attachment":null,"posted":1710584208},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295314,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295224
Where do I find the shop shop?","attachment":null,"posted":1710584320},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295324,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295224
this
then realize that someone wanted to get rid of a used camera shop for a reason
the at least try to combine selling used cameras with something lethally unexciting, but at least giving you some guaranteed traffic (unlike cameras), like selling used smartphones","attachment":null,"posted":1710589659},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295325,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295324
>then*","attachment":null,"posted":1710589721},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295329,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295219
start with some fucking sentence structure, god damn.","attachment":null,"posted":1710591714},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295339,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295314
what?","attachment":null,"posted":1710594011},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295339
opie is looking for shops that sell shops","attachment":null,"posted":1710594122},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295407,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295219
>>4293593","attachment":null,"posted":1710611788},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295445,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've considered this after my local used camera shop closed down many years ago. Then I realised it because no one in this town is interested in shitty film cameras older than them and their associated crappy lenses. I also wouldn't want to have to deal with that stuff either. So if I did have a shop it would only be selling stuff from the last 20 years or so, I'd be constantly turning people away trying to get rid of their junk, and my stock value would be like ten times higher than the previous shop and I don't have a hundred grand to get the shop and stock it up.","attachment":null,"posted":1710617211},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295446,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295219
start with ebay to see if people are willing to buy from you and you get used to the process of fulfilling orders","attachment":null,"posted":1710617237},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295458,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295446
>ebay
>13.25% on most sales
I can hear the handrubbing from here","attachment":null,"posted":1710618476},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295445
most of the local places here eventually turned into something else. The film shop here does do gear, but it's clear that developing/scanning film is where their focus is now. The camera store that is around me, started doing repairs then slowly stopped buying/selling gear altogether, now all they do is repairs and cleaning. They do 'consignment' now meaning they host gear for sale for you and take a cut. But at that point I might as well list it on ebay which has a much wider reach.

I get the impression that running a store front in 2024 just doesn't make sense if all your doing is buying and selling gear. You won't be able to compete with online pricing and your customer base is just local people.","attachment":null,"posted":1710619058},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295459
That's pretty much what this store used to do too. They wouldn't actually buy stuff off you, just put it on display and then if it sold they contact you and then take their cut. They had so much shit that would sit there for months if not years, cheap junk that the owner probably forgot about in the end. But yeah it's not going to work now with more modern and expensive gear. Someone's not going to give me their A7R V in hopes that it might sell in a month or two when they can slap on Ebay and have it gone in less than a week. Also there's a CEX in town too that'll buy shit from people and give them the cash straight away.

They also did printing and I think scanning, no dev I don't think but there was another place nearby that would do that. Cleaning and repairs too.","attachment":null,"posted":1710620600},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Think I'm going to open up a photography studio that specializes in portraits of photographers. Like you have to be an actual photographer to be a customer. Would have to bring camera as evidence, minimum a7iii, so no fujishit larpers or mft allowed.","attachment":null,"posted":1710621356},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295340
yes that's why I said what, the hell he is on about but no word of a lie I'd like to know where one would find such a place","attachment":null,"posted":1710634039},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295516
You need to ask the shop shop shops where they sell their shop, duh.","attachment":null,"posted":1710634654},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295556,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295521
kek","attachment":null,"posted":1710641398},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295459
>I get the impression that running a store front in 2024 just doesn't make sense if all your doing is buying and selling gear.
every local store owner I know has also an online store. you can't survive with local only nowadays because you're not a gatekeeper anymore. before the internet people had to go to you to get their stuff. now they can just order online.","attachment":null,"posted":1710661873},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295632,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295458
in europe it's 0%. they only want some low listing fee of a few cents","attachment":null,"posted":1710662158},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"There’s absolutely no need to go bricks and mortar for a business like this in current year. You could operate it with near-0 overheads or responsibility from home/online, but you want a shopfront - why?

The person in this thread complaining about eBay fees is a retard who doesn’t realise how much businesses pay for advertising and payment processing. Most would happily pay 13% or more for the exposure eBay provides. You start there and convert buyers to your own website with cards, flyers and promo codes, simultaneously gaming social media for further exposure.","attachment":null,"posted":1710668301},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295664,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295632
In Europe eBay is indeed 0%. As in - it's irrelevant. Nobody cares about eBay here.","attachment":null,"posted":1710674236},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295672,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295664
I sell on eBay Australia and send ~10 parcels per week to Europe. Germany is also the 3rd biggest eBay market in the world.","attachment":null,"posted":1710677102},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295654
Faggot i’m not paying even 1% to ebay. Go larp as someone who knows what they are doing in a kys thread or something, lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1710683236},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295690
Okay, spend 1-3% for payment/card processing and 50% of your revenue on a lease, other bills and advertising, then.

>Go larp as someone who knows what they are doing
If you'd caught me 5 years ago I'd have shared screenshots from my accounting software, but I give less of a fuck these days. You have a shitty attitude and you're not going to make it.","attachment":null,"posted":1710701203},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295800
Customers have the luxury of paying cash IRL with 0% processing or they can pay the processing fee.
>50% revenue bills
lol

>more larping
you never made it not taking advice from larper","attachment":null,"posted":1710704088},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295811,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295809
>paying cash IRL with 0%
Good luck with that.","attachment":null,"posted":1710704388},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4295968,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295632
Hi, European here.
I got gypped about 20% when all was said and done.","attachment":null,"posted":1710761163},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4296111,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295219
damn i was actually there haha, it was somewhere in shinjuku? got a hotshoe attatchment for my konica and a 90mm lens there :3","attachment":null,"posted":1710794758},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4296594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296128
Unless...? OwO","attachment":null,"posted":1710944113},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4296613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295219
>Used Cameras
okay, first of all - making it online is a good opportunity, small clothing brands are much more complex in production sense, it's relatively easy - make online shop, post stuff, get deals.You only problem is design and servicing the website, it's a clusterfuck, but If you have a nice deal with a designer or do it yourself I think you can manage

But there is more, what will make your shop stand out from other shops?
Service and deals are the first thing i'm thinking of.
What exact deals you will be providing for people?
Maybe camera servicing like installing Magic Lantern, lenses fixes and shit? Camera Film? Writing some kickass redpill articles from some /p/ threads with links to your website? Selling some really awkward and exotic stuff? Renting gear? Selling some great books for learning photography and composition, selling photo albums of the great photographs? I think just selling cameras will get you small and not so interested, but it's only my opinion.

Second - you need to get some PR/SMM other shit to get some clients, otherwise nobody knows you eve exist.","attachment":null,"posted":1710948859},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4296614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296613
it's not a problem to have a local shop, because local scene is important too, but I don't know anything about it, it's too much context related, you need to understand that if camera shops closed some time ago it's not just because owner is not interested in cameras anymore, maybe there are no customers","attachment":null,"posted":1710949222},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4296617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295219
My local camera shops owner died, they sold it to a young couple.
Lots of clamoring on about "servicing the community like the old owners" and all that jazz.
Turns out the old man wasnt making a profit just surviving off his profits made in the good ole days.

It shut down within a year.
Turns out paying MSRP for stuff which has a lower street price online or at best buy isnt a good strategy.
Turns out knocking 15% off a used items MSRP when I can buy it for 50% off online is not a good strategy.

Everyone used the store as a way to figure out what glass they want, then go and buy it elsewhere for far cheaper.
Thats what your store will be. A rental storefront where you dont make money.

This is the same problem running shoe stores have.
My local running shoe stores charge a like $40 "fitting fee" if you try on shoes and dont purchase them there.","attachment":null,"posted":1710949723},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4296682,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4296617
How 2 solve:
Offer an on-site development service.
Also do mail-ins.
Boom, infinite profit cus that shit is rare nowadays.
And dont keep stock unless you're basically a collector yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1710962085},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4296708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296128
im not... >:(","attachment":null,"posted":1710970317},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4297683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"coffee shop in the front, camera shop in the back
make it as trendy and histery as possible because that's the type of audience that even uses and is willing to by cameras these days. make it a local thing by having competitions and seminars and things like that
down side: gays, pretentious hipsters, and uni fags","attachment":null,"posted":1711236520},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4301290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295219
yo","attachment":null,"posted":1712278942},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4306406,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295458
>3.25%","attachment":null,"posted":1713738046},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4306507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295224
this but also make tiktok slop glorifying the shit out of the cameras you have in-stock. also look into shipping capabilities so its not just a local shithole only type of place.","attachment":null,"posted":1713763981},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4308048,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"up","attachment":null,"posted":1714234369},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4311466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I live in one of the biggest urban sprawls in this country and there's not even a NEW camera shop that has a large selection within 35 miles of me. There's one closer but they don't have a ton of stuff. I'm not sure that's really a good business move. Refurbishing broken shit and selling at a profit is probably a better business","attachment":null,"posted":1715115355},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4311480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Nice idea, I wish I had one locally desu. How will you compete with international used marketplaces like MPB for example?","attachment":null,"posted":1715121666},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4311498,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311480
Not him but I imagine the only way a shop like this will survive in current day is to offer socialization, like meeting, workshops, competitions ect. It's the only thing that the internet can't do","attachment":null,"posted":1715126250},{"board":"p","thread":4295219,"pid":4313935,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297683
desu yeah. Nobody wants to spend money on old outdated technology. I have a camera i got as a graduation present literally ten years ago and i only used it a couple times. Sad, but, my iphone is probably better now. I do like the pictures it took but idk why i would lug around a big huge camera when I already have my phone. I do like my polaroid but i dont have friends so i never use it lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1715765291}]} {"title":"Camera Tripods","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4298924,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is the Peak Design Travel Tripod really the best lightweight compact tripod that still gets the job done?
>pic related

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as everything meme design you are paying extra for the brand","attachment":null,"posted":1711619228},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4298969,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I bought one last autumn and have been borrowing my friends Ulanzi for about a year before that.

So they are absolutely a hassle to use (too heavy for 35 mm and too light for medium format) however for the traveling film photographer where you absolutely need to keep the camera steady it's kind of a necessity. Think hard on how much you really need one because I promise you you will leave it at home if you possibly can.

Still I ended up going with the peak design version since it is much more serviceable out in the field. The ulanzi is better in many ways including the head, but it's just not as compact and not as easy to clean, with lots of fiddly bits that are kind of cool when you get them but become a hassle once and water and dirt get in between em.

I would also occasionally borrow a friend's manfrotto that he uses for studio work. But that thing is just to cumbersome for hiking.

Anyway my advice is don't get a tripod unless you NEED one.","attachment":null,"posted":1711627405},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4298978,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298924
>best
>legs thinner than your pinky
its a over priced meme","attachment":null,"posted":1711633706},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4298979,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298978
>best
>lightweight compact tripod
Moron","attachment":null,"posted":1711634963},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299049,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298979
they exist and arent meme tripods","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711652752063790.jpg","filename":"IP17JLH7bx_1-_rctt-200_main.jpg"},"posted":1711652752},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298924
Just get a camera with IBIS old man","attachment":null,"posted":1711652931},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm not a fan of it, I got one but I don't like the twisting to lock and unlock. Would really prefer a lever.","attachment":null,"posted":1711665695},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299120,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299101
What would you recommend instead?","attachment":null,"posted":1711669745},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Flimsiest I'd ever consider going is this style. I'm sure the even smaller/lighter ones technically can be serviceable, it gets to a point where it's barely a tripod and you wonder why you bother to bring it at all.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711685299173505.jpg","filename":"file.jpg"},"posted":1711685299},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299183,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298979
here you go, 40mm/32mm legs, and weighs as much as the aluminum peak design","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711688501449125.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-03-28 at 11.59.26 PM.png"},"posted":1711688501},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299192,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Benro Cyanbird deserves a mention.","attachment":null,"posted":1711692681},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299208,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299183
jeez talk about overpaying, why didn't you order through their ali shopfront","attachment":null,"posted":1711701344},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299257,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299208
you can't you retard, its not there. also its a lot more expensive through their US website.","attachment":null,"posted":1711718722},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299267,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298924
I had a long think about this two years ago, my choice was the current manfrotto be free, in carbon","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711720193699184.jpg","filename":"51CD+RUImzL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg"},"posted":1711720193},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299268,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299267
I get the side loop of my backpack between the legs, it's secure, easy to carry, and light enough to forget it once it's there","attachment":null,"posted":1711720287},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299267
>>4299268
Do you use the manfrotto mount? All of my gear is for arca swiss and it would suck to have to get new stuff. Arca Swiss feels very solid I've never had a complaint about it.","attachment":null,"posted":1711729056},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299422,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298924
If your tripod is light enough to hold with one hand, it's not heavy enough to keep your camera still outdoors","attachment":null,"posted":1711754549},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299303
I'm using it but I don't love it, however I don't have another head/mount so it's a bit of a moot issue for me now

It works well enough, but I'm sure Arca Swiss is tighter","attachment":null,"posted":1711756105},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299434,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299422
maybe youre just weak","attachment":null,"posted":1711758894},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299524,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I could never pay $600 for a tripod that doesn't come standard with arca-swiss, not to mention the last section of the Weak Design is so flimsy you might as well just not extend it. It seems like Weak Design is still keeping prices high to subsidize all the free/discounted tripods they gave to youtubers to shill their carbon fiber toothpick","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711803484472698.png","filename":"1707004565857057.png"},"posted":1711803484},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299524
The plate is arca compatible, if you remove the pins from the head then that will be too.","attachment":null,"posted":1711807587},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299549,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299524
it is standard arca compatible","attachment":null,"posted":1711810675},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299535
>>4299549
arca """compatible"""","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711828792884682.png","filename":"1704111706977356.png"},"posted":1711828792},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299607
Lmfao my $50 chinese “panorama head” fits arca plates perfectly whaddafuck","attachment":null,"posted":1711828926},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299610,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299609
it looks like the quick release mechanism fucks up the angle on one side if the arca plate doesn't perfectly match the weak design plate size","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711829309003299.png","filename":"1688675995417624.png"},"posted":1711829309},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So I'm near the beginning of my photography journey and I have finally realized I need a tripod so I can take better pictures of insects on flowers and on the ground. I loathe the idea of buying a tripod manufactured in China and would really prefer if it was made in the USA.

Is Colorado Tripod the best option? (picrel)

Also looking for info on geared vs monoball mount.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711832728548411.jpg","filename":"1687383954704.jpg"},"posted":1711832728},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299662,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299628
Based chink hater
If you want good workmanship just buy a Really Right Stuff tripod and cry once","attachment":null,"posted":1711840751},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299739,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299628
Gitzo Explorer and an Arca p0 has been a great combo for me, gets low and points down very easy. Not cheap though, and you'll need to either find the tripod secondhand, or buy a chinese knockoff, as they no longer make it.

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Check out three legged thing for some options from UK, also very solid.","attachment":null,"posted":1711898424},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299866,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299845
>Check out three legged thing for some options from UK
they're just chinkshit with tacky branding. from their own website:
>We design and engineer all of our products in the United Kingdom, and seek ways to innovate in order to create products that photographers love and want to use in their daily workflows.
Which is a classic way of saying, made in China.","attachment":null,"posted":1711902685},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299870,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299662
Did I do it right?

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>Really Right Stuff
I recommend checking out ProMediaGear. the RRS is owned by (((mormons)))","attachment":null,"posted":1711903861},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4299962,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299870
show me how laughably thin the last leg of the tripod is. use a pencil or pen for comparision","attachment":null,"posted":1711915237},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4300022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Under main or sub tripod(<1.6m) > leofoto or whatever the fuck that grab your attention. just don't go under 200usd unless it's a mini tripod (like like leofoto MT-03)
>Main tripod > Gitzo

>sub ball head > Leofoto EB-36
>Main ball head > Makins or if you have more money Arca swess.","attachment":null,"posted":1711937752},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301392,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298924
I like that brand but it's cringe as a French man because PD means FAGGOT in french so I wouldn't buy it","attachment":null,"posted":1712321873},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298924
To you meme lord large format guys that may be in the thread, what sorta tripod setup you working with? I recently acquired a Fuji gx680 and while it’s only 6x8 mf, the bulk and size of the thing is more like a 4x5 camera. My current 3leggedthing tripod whimpered just at the sight of it. Picrel left most one if you’ve never seen one lol

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a systematic series 5 tripod, from anyone, from gitzo to leofoto. you can get LM-404CLs on ebay for $300, they have 40mm legs at the largest and go up to 84" tall. I have a LM-402C for use with a gimbal mounted 500 f/5.6 and am happy with it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712346271212970.png","filename":"2024-04-05 14_43_45-20200807133949_50707.jpg (1200×1404) - Brave.png"},"posted":1712346271},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301450
I wonder if a pan and tilt head like in that photo would be the way to go. A ball head seems too fiddly for this size of camera. I guess it’s just about getting thicker legs innit. My current tripod is good for travel but even my eos r and sigma 105/1.4 can wobble if the wind is strong enough. Fuckin unexpected extra costs eh","attachment":null,"posted":1712346539},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301451
that or a geared head if you can afford an arca swiss cube","attachment":null,"posted":1712346693},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301451
>>4301452
or something like, which i think leofoto also makes a knock off of
https://www.acratech.net/tripod-heads/long-lens-heads/long-lens-head/","attachment":null,"posted":1712346872},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301453
>over 400 bucks
>no mention of payload or weight rating other than “a 600/4, promise!”
Kinda sus","attachment":null,"posted":1712348619},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301463
acratech makes nice heads, I have their GP and it was even more. weight ratings are retarded and are highly dependent on having the load centered on the head isnt always possible. 600 f/4s are usually as big as they come unless they're talking about meme lenses like Sigma's 200-500 f/2.8. A 600 f/4G is 5kg which is more than your fuji.","attachment":null,"posted":1712348842},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301468,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301463
>>4301467
also if you think $400 is expensive, the acra swiss c1 gp is over 2000 euros","attachment":null,"posted":1712348915},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301471,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301468
After tax it’s over 3000 Trudeau coins. Thing looks like 100% metallic sex though, I want it. Watched some videos and it seems like the ultimate tripod head.

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I got one on a black Friday special two years ago.

I honestly have little complaints about it aside from using really heavy setups (I use it for video too, camera + 70-200 + v-mount + monitor).

For photography though, it's nice. BUT, I think it's too short in max length, and it's annoying the way the head only lets you shoot vertical in one specific spot.","attachment":null,"posted":1712410064},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301697,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301450
>50kg tripod
Oh yeah, now we're making gainz.","attachment":null,"posted":1712416850},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298924
The PD is the most compact. The ulanzi one is close, pretty damn good and half the price","attachment":null,"posted":1712422616},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4301954,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299962
That’s one of the selling points of the tripod anon. It’s compact.","attachment":null,"posted":1712477794},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301954
>selling points
you've never used a tripod if you dont understand why long pencil thin legs are a terrible idea.","attachment":null,"posted":1712495377},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301724
>ulanzi one is close
which one?
The Zero Y?
The F38?

I have 300 bucks and would like to get a lightweight travel tripod.","attachment":null,"posted":1712503686},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302063,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302042
Only the head is different
zero y is standard arca compatible clamp
f38 is their proprietary quick release
But a simple google search would have gotten you that answer you lazy motherfucker","attachment":null,"posted":1712508647},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What do you guys think about Benro tripod heads? Looking to get the IB1","attachment":null,"posted":1712526648},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302155,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302015
You’re responding to my photo. You don’t own a travel tripod, or a studio stand, or anything nice in between.","attachment":null,"posted":1712532852},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302183,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Manfrotto Element Traveller (small) in carbon fibre was my choice. works well for my gripped a7iii and i can (sometimes) put my RZ67 on it","attachment":null,"posted":1712542836},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302184,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302042
Zero y for sure. The f38 just uses their own mount for some stupid reason. Zeri y is Arca Swiss, weighs very little and is quite compact.","attachment":null,"posted":1712543021},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302206,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302155
>travel tripod
I have a leofoto lm-402c

>studio stand
robus 5570

both have leveling bowls, acratech gp ball heads and benro geared head.

you still dont understand why the peak design is a joke of a tripod for people who dont know how tripods work","attachment":null,"posted":1712548478},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302206
You have no idea what a studio stand even is, lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1712560617},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302261,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302206
that's not a studio tripod lol

on the other hand what's the fixation on arca swiss compatible plates?
it's not like I can afford a 2000€ gear head anyways","attachment":null,"posted":1712570972},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302261
>what's the fixation on arca swiss compatible plates?
That's a bit of a dumb question. Obviously it's nice to have stuff that is interchangeable, not having to swap out plates. Many types of plates come standard in arca fitment and often aren't available in anything else, like L brackets. Some lens collars even have the dovetails cut into them so you don't need to stick an additional plate on them.","attachment":null,"posted":1712571759},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302652,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How is the Smallrig AP-01? Anyone has it?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712654814094197.jpg","filename":"1669204522_1737050.jpg"},"posted":1712654814},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302705,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302652
>flip locks with no hex adjustments
no","attachment":null,"posted":1712676837},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302705
never had problems with them on any of my 3 cheap manfrottos","attachment":null,"posted":1712677448},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302716,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302261
>on the other hand what's the fixation on arca swiss compatible plates?
Fucking everything uses them except $35 best buy tripods? That's like asking what's the obsession with 1/4 bolts","attachment":null,"posted":1712677626},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302716
this being thread mostly about travel tripods
my manfrottos don't use them
and to be honest I've never understood the fixation either
small quick release plates are awesome","attachment":null,"posted":1712677952},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302720
nobody gives a shity about your shitty manfrottos","attachment":null,"posted":1712678507},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302726
dunno about that anon
the Made in Italy ones are pretty nice","attachment":null,"posted":1712678714},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302728
>the Made in Italy ones are pretty nice
Did they stop making tripods in Italy?
I have a Mf 190GO Carbon tripod made back in 2016. Happy to own this.","attachment":null,"posted":1712679501},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302733,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302731
not all of them were always made in Italy
only the mid to high end stuff was","attachment":null,"posted":1712679699},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302740,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302261
It’s not a fixation it’s just industry standard","attachment":null,"posted":1712681673},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302741,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301468
The Linhof equivalent is even more expensive.","attachment":null,"posted":1712682129},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302743,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301471
I have it. It really is amazing, but not sure if it's €2000 amazing.","attachment":null,"posted":1712682247},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302759,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299628
>no chinese manufacture
You're shit out of luck then","attachment":null,"posted":1712686014},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4302966,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302759
>You're shit out of luck then
not him but why? I only buy things made in Europe. Try to. But there are always options to buy stuff which America or not cursed Asia made (India and Chaina are cursed if you would ask), and it doesn't do my life harder.","attachment":null,"posted":1712723120},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303000,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302966
Made in america is a meaningless label. 90% of stuff "made in america" has just had its final assembly done in america. Western labour is way too expensive for anything else","attachment":null,"posted":1712732166},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303000
nice digits
but not how it works in Europe","attachment":null,"posted":1712733880},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303010,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303000
>Made in america is a meaningless label. 90% of stuff "made in america" has just had its final assembly done in america. Western labour is way too expensive for anything else
This is the way how complex things made (this is also the reason why chinks want to grab Taiwan). The last country that tried to use parts made exclusively inside the border died in 1991 (thank God)","attachment":null,"posted":1712737727},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303058,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298924
I have a 3 legged thing Corey and I really like it. It's like you take one of those cheap ass compact folding tripods you see all over Amazon...then make it actually nice. I don't see any reason to upgrade basically ever.","attachment":null,"posted":1712752258},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303080,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303000
Bike industry is a good example of this. We can buy frames made in Asia exactly to our materials & processes specs without our own QC/QA people overseeing every step, finished, decaled and shipped directly to our shops for $35. Just that frames metal tubing, that very same tube set, costs us $300 to buy in this countrry, and we still have to build a frame out of it and finish it. We have a cottage industry of botique builders in the us that build a frame with the same level of quality that China puts into their frames, but when you have to pay for the american cost of living for even one employee in a sole proprietorship, like Chris Chance for instance, that Fat Chance frame retails for $3000+ by the time it makes it on to the market. The american economic system just cant compete against chinas, theres no way around it. As long as you want the owner class to make as much $ as possible, the costs of everything are maximized to that end and every otter country on earth becomes a better option to do business with.","attachment":null,"posted":1712757693},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303000
Western labour is too expensive for the culture of cyclical upgrades, but if people could go back to putting up with the concept of not having every toy imaginable RIGHT NOW and having the best one RIGHT NOW it would be fine.

Like paying an extra $400 for a bicycle - how many fucking bicycles do you buy?

If anything cameras, bikes, etc should be more expensive.

>>4303080
China is part of the american economic system. Our government has been purposefully propping them up and ensuring they stay cheap. We allow their industrial and economic espionage specifically because of the arrangement you stated: it allows american businesses to buy incomplete assemblies for less than they can make them as long as china is worse to live in than the US.

Modern china would not even exist as the strong class divide, genocidal, dog roasting regime it is without us. In 2000, there was an outcry about clinton fully normalizing and extending most favored nation status with them and ever since then china has gotten away with all of the exact same things our overlords say we need to hate and refuse to trade with russia for.","attachment":null,"posted":1712760200},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303080
The fat chance retails for $3000 because when you can buy incomplete assemblies from a third world country where 70% of the population lives like iron age peasants, the literacy standard is artificially low, and intra-national migration controls are needed to keep the cardboard cities looking nice, making your own thing becomes a premium/prestige thing like buying clothes but italian. It's not a $3000 frame because americans can not make bikes cheaper than that. It's a $3000 frame because chris chance is greedy and wants even more money, and if he only wanted some money, he would max out his profit margins by supporting china.

This is OUR system, not theirs. We invented it. We invented it before we even did trade with china, when importers systematically gutted and destroyed the entire western camera industry via trade agreements with japan, which was china-like at the time, but with less animal cruelty and more pedophilia (they weren't forced to cut it out until the most recent olympics)","attachment":null,"posted":1712760388},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303367,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Speaking of Manfrotto.
Thoughts on the befree travel tripods?
They sometimes popup on ebay for cheap.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712833713758081.jpg","filename":"0090757_manfrotto-befree-compact-travel-aluminum-alloy-tripod-gray.jpg"},"posted":1712833713},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303431,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"q999h","attachment":null,"posted":1712852220},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone else really like these cheap heads where turning the handle adjusts the tilt damping? Makes adjustments really quick. Just wish there was a slightly beefier model with another panaromic adjustment on top so it would be possible to also use it with l-brackets.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712894304385157.png","filename":"1700622018367274.png"},"posted":1712894304},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Basically if this thing had a pano arca plate on top then it would be perfect. just sucks that video oriented heads in general are incompatible with l-brackets without an additional plate for the 90 degree adjustment.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712895589031391.png","filename":"1696093922943420.png"},"posted":1712895589},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hmm, I think I mostly found what I was looking for. Just wish it didn't have the horizon leveling shit so the whole thing could be a bit more compact, and having the whole thing being supported on one side instead of both sides like the Vanguard seems a bit less stable.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712896930259603.png","filename":"1703301089715800.png"},"posted":1712896930},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303635,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302652
I have it. It's probably not as sturdy as some high dollar tripods but it works great for me. I use it with a sigma 150-600 and r6","attachment":null,"posted":1712925390},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303753,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"gents, I'm looking for a gimbal head except that it MUST NOT be "arca-compatible".

so far I've found the manfrotto 393. anything else?","attachment":null,"posted":1712956971},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4303783,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303753
>MUST NOT be "arca-compatible".
why

>manfrotto 393.
it looks laughably bad","attachment":null,"posted":1712965632},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4304076,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303783
manfrotto shill is just baiting for replies. the 393 is basically a proprietary arca plate.","attachment":null,"posted":1713060512},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4304774,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303431
is it any good?
what's a nice aliexpress tripod?
preferably carbon one","attachment":null,"posted":1713252966},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4304815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299183
it's also 1/4 the max height at best lol","attachment":null,"posted":1713275858},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4304816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299267
Such a SHIT tripod desu
There are really worlds between this and a proper Gitzo (or even a run off the mill Leofoto)
But GODAMMIT it is a sexy design","attachment":null,"posted":1713275936},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4304817,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299628
>Is Colorado Tripod the best option? (picrel)
Sure, if it's ever going to ship lol
They've been out of stock for four years now","attachment":null,"posted":1713276080},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4304856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Smallrig AP-100 thoughts?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713284888470139.jpg","filename":"Screen-Shot-2023-11-17-at-7.33.42-740x483.jpg"},"posted":1713284888},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4305507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304856
since no one replied I've bought one
it looks surprisingly good
hope the build quality is nice also but in order to figure that out I'll have to wait","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713455295408209.jpg","filename":"2024-04_003.jpg"},"posted":1713455295},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4305508,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305507
It's not very suited for portrait work tho.
And the memeswiss mounting system is not very nice. I would rather have a quick mount solution.
Buying this for $239 MSRP would be retarded.
With a discount it's a nice looking tripod.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713455523257972.jpg","filename":"2024-04_004.jpg"},"posted":1713455523},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4305584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305508
>Smallrig AP-100
I mean the head looks nice but the spider looks shit. And by shit I just mean the same as every other generic chinese tripod. Keep an allen handy because you'll be retightening the leg hinges until you die.
Get an L-bracket for your camera to shot portraits; this is the tru beauty of arca swiss.","attachment":null,"posted":1713474329},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4305586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305584
>i'm a soiboi who doesnt know what thread locking compound is","attachment":null,"posted":1713475375},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4305611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305508
>I would rather have a quick mount solution
How much quicker than lever-lock do you actually need, anon, this autistic anti-arca thing you’ve been bringing up all thread is really odd desu. Seriously, what is realistically practically (as in not getting into counting milliseconds or some shit) faster than something like picrel?

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I have a cheap aluminum tripod with a three-way head. Am I retarded for not seeing the benefit of a ball head? I tried one in-store, seems way more fiddly than just twisting my wrist to unlock tilt, smoothly aiming at the composition, and then tightening down with another twist of the wrist.","attachment":null,"posted":1713497134},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4305640,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305639
Ball heads suck. Three-way is better. IMO.","attachment":null,"posted":1713498786},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4305660,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305584
I don't think that will happen but the correct hex key is inside the central leg as part of the bag hook

>get this bulky accessory for your travel tripod
no thanks
>>4305611
>here put this additional plate on your travel tripod increasing the weight and preventing it from fitting inside the bag
thanks for the input anon","attachment":null,"posted":1713512437},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4305669,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305639
Well if your head is fully locked down then you've got three knobs to twist, compared to one or two with a ball head","attachment":null,"posted":1713523963},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4305679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305660
>here put this additional plate on your travel tripod
He's talking about the head that's already on the tripod. You twist that ring to lock the plate in place right? That's just as quick as flipping a lever, and as he said you don't need it to be any quicker.

>get this bulky accessory for your travel tripod
Do you actually know what an L bracket is? It attaches and stays on the camera. It does make the body a little wider but barely.","attachment":null,"posted":1713528791},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4305879,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305639
>>4305640
>>4305669
I like a good ball head with an adjustable ring. Turn the ring one way and it’s was able adjustable to move your camera where you want then turn the other way to lock. If you want to constantly adjust it you can turn the ring to a point in the middle and it will stay where you move it while not being too stiff to easily move. Best system out there IMO.","attachment":null,"posted":1713566721},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303783
>why
I hate anything arca-swiss with a raging passion, simple as
>it looks laughably bad
how so? serious question, never had a gimbal before. is it the U-shaped frame?

>>4304076
>manfrotto shill is just baiting for replies
gas yourself, jew. I use velbon and slik supports
>the 393 is basically a proprietary arca plate
no the fuck it isn't. it uses manfrotto's Q5/500/501/503 or whatever it's really called, which has a 50mm wide plate that slides in one way only. arca uses a 38mm plate and can be installed a number of ways","attachment":null,"posted":1713630737},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306042
>I hate anything arca-swiss with a raging passion, simple as
Take a good look, anons, this is the kind of autistic spergatron that you’re out here asking for critique and advice kek","attachment":null,"posted":1713635800},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306042
>how so?
its a couple shitty pieces of stamped sheet metal and a bushing. it is laughably bad and over priced for what it is. it is the very definition of chinkshit. what the fuck are you even putting on a gimbal when you're poor enough that the manfrotto is even an option?

>I hate anything arca-swiss with a raging passion, simple as
so you're a sperg who doesnt like one dove tail profile and would rather use a different profile only one small irrelevant company uses?

>50mm wide plate
arca is fine for a 600 f/4 and full sized rifles, what the fuck are you mounting which this dovetail wouldnt work for.

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and it doesnt even fold up

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>calls manfrotto "chinkshit"
>using leofoto
ngmi","attachment":null,"posted":1713637542},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306097,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306093
the leofoto is the most innovative gimbal out there. the only other folding gimbal is from benro, and the leofoto is smaller and half a kilo lighter. also it costs more than 50% more than the chinkshit manfroto. the manfroto is so terribad that tightening the pan knob doesnt even stop it from rotating. just try reading the cope in their reviews. but keep on pretending that the manfrotto is better because its label says it is "Inspired by FERRARI"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713639279087022.png","filename":"2024-04-20 13_52_24-Window.png"},"posted":1713639279},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306114,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306097
>tightening the pan knob doesnt even stop it from rotating
not a problem
>pretending that the manfrotto is better
I don't care that it's "better" or "worse" than chinkshit leofoto or winberley or whatever. I care that it doesn't have a fucking "arca-compatible" mounting","attachment":null,"posted":1713645769},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306118,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306114
>I care that it doesn't have a fucking "arca-compatible" mounting
And yet you haven't given a legitimate reason","attachment":null,"posted":1713646675},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306125,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306118
Big Manfrotto must be trolling us, only explanation. Any other quick release system will work similar to arca so I really don’t understand what that regard is even looking for. Just screw the camera directly to the stud o guess","attachment":null,"posted":1713647628},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306138,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306125
that or a boomer who thinks this 1970s era design is the peak of gimbal technology","attachment":null,"posted":1713652551},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306189,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Sirui or bust.","attachment":null,"posted":1713675227},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305679
why would I want to put a huge ass L bracket on my OM-4Ti?
why would I want to make the smallest full featured film slr bigger?
makes no sense","attachment":null,"posted":1713777008},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306527
>smallest full featured film SLR
Its not a minolta dynax 5 anon","attachment":null,"posted":1713798123},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306562
the Pentax *ist is even smaller
127.0x87.0x60.5mm
vs
122.0x84.0x63.5mm
no idea if any of these are smaller with a lens included

but let me clarify
>why would I want to make the smallest sovl full featured manual film slr any bigger?","attachment":null,"posted":1713798641},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306564,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306563
>"sovl"
>its just manual focus and rectangular
Maybe if you bought an arca compatible L bracket you would find that it's easy to put on the camera and take back off for tripod shooting","attachment":null,"posted":1713799096},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306564
Maybe if you've ever used a proper Made In Italy Manfrotto quickmount tripod you would understand that having only one single landscape position is a bad tripod design and that having to twist a metal ring several times to unmount the "quick" release plate is annoying.

Other than that it's an ok tripod but buying it for the full MSRP would be retarded.
Too bad the Ulanzi isn't like 100€ cheaper. Would be a no-brainer.","attachment":null,"posted":1713799427},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306567,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306565
are you retarded? you do realize levers for arca mounts exist?","attachment":null,"posted":1713800690},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306569,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306567

>>4305611
>>4305660","attachment":null,"posted":1713800876},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306571,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306569
thank you for confirming you're retarded","attachment":null,"posted":1713801050},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306575,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298924
>>4298925
>>4298969
Which tripod height is the best for standard?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713801329840279.jpg","filename":"851966402_max.jpg"},"posted":1713801329},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306575
the higher the tripod
the more useless it is
act accordingly","attachment":null,"posted":1713801534},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306575
those are all laughably short. center columns are terrible, two segment ones even more so. also lol at 5'7" being the male model height","attachment":null,"posted":1713803196},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306892,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305584
the head looks like absolute shit
it doesn't even have a case for the ball","attachment":null,"posted":1713876614},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306893,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306097
>the only other folding gimbal is from benro
RRS has a two-piece gimbal that is quickly diassembled and folds up much smaller
Fotopro has two Gimbals that can be tilted all the way down until they align with the tripod
The Leofoto solution doesn't really look better in comparison","attachment":null,"posted":1713876778},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306894,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306575
>Smallrig tripods
Also nice manlet for scale","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713876859876065.jpg","filename":"qhbk4nawmd691.jpg"},"posted":1713876859},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306892
>it doesn't even have a case for the ball
?","attachment":null,"posted":1713877286},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306898,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306895
The cylindrical metal frame that holds the ball and allows you to adjust tension to control its movement","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713877435380343.jpg","filename":"bh-30-ballhead_really_right_stuff.jpg"},"posted":1713877435},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306899,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306898
but it does have that?
you adjust the tension with the lever with "smallrig" on it","attachment":null,"posted":1713877541},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306901,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306899
It looks like the frame is way too flimsy to hold such a large ball
There's a reason every proper brand uses a twist knob (or at least offers them alongside levers)
Stability is largely a function of ball head height and ball diameter to case diameter ratio
Half of the smallrig ball sits outside whatever little case this ball head has","attachment":null,"posted":1713877727},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306903,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306901
can't say how it will hold up with time
but without the center column at max extension it's pretty solid
the bonus is that there aren't any knobs protruding away from the tripod (which is what most brands do and what I dislike on a travel tripod)","attachment":null,"posted":1713877922},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306905,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306903
>the bonus is that there aren't any knobs protruding away from the tripod (which is what most brands do and what I dislike on a travel tripod)
Ah well, you do you
If you ever get the chance to at a store, though, just ask them if you can hold and try one of their proper tripods for 5 min
You'll feel the difference","attachment":null,"posted":1713878032},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306906,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306893
>RRS has a two-piece gimbal that is quickly diassembled and folds up much smaller
it isnt smaller and it weighs almost twice as much, 0.85 vs 1.46kg

> Fotopro has two Gimbals
again, 1.3kg. try actually looking at the specs next time

>>4306901
>Half of the smallrig ball sits outside whatever little case this ball head has
most of the case doesnt act as a bearing surface so it doesnt necessarily matter","attachment":null,"posted":1713878468},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306909,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306906
>most of the case doesnt act as a bearing surface so it doesnt necessarily matter
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/04/how-a-ballhead-works/","attachment":null,"posted":1713878877},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4306916,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306905
as I've stated multiple times when on discount it's probably a nice travel tripod all things considered
remember I've bought it for around 120€ cheaper than the F38 Ulanzi (comparing this tripod bought inside the EU with 2 year warranty vs Ulanzi shipped from China)
especially if you wanna avoid any knobs protruding away from it or having to rotate the legs 180° from the storage position or any strange colours and so on

are the more expensive tripods nicer? yes
would I spend twice as much on a travel tripod? no

So far I've only shot a single day with the tripod. With the 300mm f/4.5 and the OM-4Ti mounted. It was an ok experience even in a very windy (up to 40m/s gusts of wind) weather.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713880106490046.jpg","filename":"head.jpg"},"posted":1713880106},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4307134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298924
I have one, also bought ulanzi one. The PD is still new in box, been like this for months.

The PD cost was far more than ulanzi for the price. Though PD do have a quicker extending ability than ulanzi and also the build will be better. Messed up some photos from Norway as the cameras weight pulled down on the QD plate during a long exposure. Have now thread-locked the plate into the tripod thread to help stop this. The lock mechanism and the tilt system on the PD is so-so. Needs to be re-designed imo.

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>the knobs stick out too much
> you have to spend half a second to rotate the legs upright
>the ball cup is picometers too small
>yap yap yap
What an autistic set of complaints I s2g, this websight never ceases to amaze.","attachment":null,"posted":1713923402},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4307167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anybody here use one of these chink arca cube knockoffs? I’m thinking of getting one but even 300 still seems a bit steep.

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Yes that was in fact the reaction the autismo turbo sped in this thread made me have, I see you understand as well","attachment":null,"posted":1713958936},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4307223,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307167
leofoto is a decent chink brand, i wouldn't hesitate","attachment":null,"posted":1713963626},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4307263,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307167
that isnt an arca cube knock off. the cubes as their name implies are cubes. that is one of arca's lesser geared heads","attachment":null,"posted":1713972213},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4307673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"New kino just dropped. Did you ever want to use your tripod as... HIKING STICKS?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714107189117777.png","filename":"1711773032341929.png"},"posted":1714107189},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4307675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307673
Anon monopods are nothing new don’t fall for chinkoid marketing nonsense","attachment":null,"posted":1714108267},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4310474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299303
Manfrotto MSQ6T, works on other heads than just the ones they list. I have one on a MHXPRO-BHQ2","attachment":null,"posted":1714902646},{"board":"p","thread":4298924,"pid":4312786,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307673
It's nothing new, solutions using poles existed for years. The problem is, my two poles are already used as supports for my tent's structure, pic related. Would work for taking pictures during the day, for which I don't really need a tripod anyway, but not for milky way photography.
I've yet to find a regular tripod that fits my needs. The only time I need one is when I'm hiking, for which I do multi-days hikes in one go and where I can't justify wasting a full 1Kg on a piece of metal. Especially not when I cut down every little gram to only keep what matters, even on food and water to the point of it being dangerous. As a cope I simply use a shitty 30cm gorillapod weighting less than 200g. I just have to find a rock somewhere for more elevation and it werks fine enough as long as it's not too windy. But it's still a pure cope solution.

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>Especially not when I cut down every little gram to only keep what matters, even on food and water to the point of it being dangerous.
There's either something wrong with your legs and back or you're doing that shit just for shits and giggles.","attachment":null,"posted":1715457155}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don’t own an 85 yet, is 0.8f really worth 4times the price?

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No. Want some more bullshit?

The f2 isn’t weather sealed and doesnt even come with a lens hood. Nikon’s 85mm f1.8 s is and does btw.

If you dont shoot nikon you might as well buy micro four thirds. Everyone else hates your wallet or has no weather sealing.","attachment":null,"posted":1710860972},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296308,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296303
I think other manufacturers have weather sealed 85mm’s. I’m struggling to understand where you’d use a weather sealed portrait lens vs an f/2.8 zoom.","attachment":null,"posted":1710862099},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296301
Yeah it's a stop and a third, it's a lot
EF 85mm /1.4 IS is also really good by the way and native adapter makes it act just like it would on DSLR, it focuses well, so it's not like there is no middle option","attachment":null,"posted":1710862561},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296312,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296303
Sorry anon, not that I don’t think weather sealing is nice to have or anything, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone make it their deciding factor. And I don’t think it would be for me either. What kind of shooting do you do that weather sealing is the hill you will die on?","attachment":null,"posted":1710862564},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296313,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296312
It mostly matters when you are outside in a not so friendly environment, like wedding or any other events, basically the more weather seals the better no matter why you have a camera out.","attachment":null,"posted":1710862687},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296314,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296301
A crappy thread no one liked otherwise they would have bumped it has died thanks to your thought provoking question.
To answer your question no it's not worth it much less investing in the Canot ecosystem.","attachment":null,"posted":1710862890},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296316,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296308
Sony doesnt except for the G master prime and $2000+ bodies like the a7iv and a7rv. Fuji’s WR notoriously doesnt work consistently except on the xh2 and xh2s. That leaves nikon, olympus, and panasonic.

>>4296312
You dont seem to understand this yet, but lens WR has to be better on mirrorless because of the exposed sensor and the massive amount of damage that occurs when water gets in the IBIS sled and all those flex cables on the mainboard. Water getting past the mount has a shorter path to more delicate parts.

A slight rain shower would permanently destroy your camera. The service bill would be for replacement.","attachment":null,"posted":1710863328},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296320,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296316
cant forget dust pumping. it goes straight to the sensor now.
>its also a macro
>macro is mostly outdoor
>NO WATHA SEARING FAK U BUY CANON RF L LENSES
Remember, canon is the #1 brand because of the 30 years of pros with 30 years of EF L zooms being locked to one ecosystem and clueless normies buying rebels and r100s to imitate them. Not because canon is good.","attachment":null,"posted":1710863759},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296316
>That leaves nikon, olympus, and panasonic.
So just Nikon then, really. I wouldn’t be opposed to switching systems as I’m not a canon fanboy or anything, but god selling and reacquiring lenses I have now would be a pain, they always sell for a loss. The only ones I really can’t think of a direct Nikon mount equivalent are the ef11-24 and the sigma 105/1.4 (though f mount works on the new bodies like native ?)","attachment":null,"posted":1710865133},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296324,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296303
>you might as well buy micro four thirds. Everyone else hates your wallet
lol","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1710865405849250.png","filename":"Olympus_150-600mm_B&H.png"},"posted":1710865405},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296327,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296323
>f mount works on the new bodies like native ?
Not if it doesn't have an ultrasonic motor.","attachment":null,"posted":1710865723},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296308
>portrait lens
you realize there is no such thing, its a lens, it projects an image, it doesnt magically stop working when someone isnt in view.","attachment":null,"posted":1710865814},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296339,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296330
It will if you don't buy the firmware upgrade; did you think face detect AF was implemented to help the customer?","attachment":null,"posted":1710866297},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296323
>ef 11-24 f4
I have no idea how much the extra 1mm matters to you, but Nikon's always been weirdly dedicated to 12-24 f2.8 zooms.
>105mm f1.4 art
The F mount version works as well as it ever did.

>>4296327
To be fair no one except broke truckers and ken rockwell still use lenses that old and 9/10 complainers are overspending newbies who don't own any F mount lenses slowly learning they can't afford any nice full frame mirrorless.
>But I want to use this one since I can only spend $$$$ on (lens type) after spending $1700 on a Z7II (because I NEED megapixels) and it doesn't adapt, noooooo!
>-someone being spared the disappointment of finding out a budget friendly ken rockwell favorite is hazy and purple for the first two aperture stops
Nikon's decision to ditch half of F mount on Z was fair considered they're an underdog in terms of their share of soulless snapshitting journos. For the hobbyists who simply can't afford the newer lenses but want a nice body, they are keeping the market supplied by still making the D6, D850, D780, and D7500 and 38 F mount lenses brand new. That makes Nikon unironically more committed to reflex than pentax, and way more than canon (stopping production of all DSLR products).","attachment":null,"posted":1710866375},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296339
>It will if you don't buy the firmware upgrade; did you think face detect AF was implemented to help the customer?
My sir, this is not a sony thread. All of the firmware upgrades for nikon users have been free except for one that adds a (useless for 999/1000 people) proprietary video codec that nikon has to pay for on a per-camera basis.","attachment":null,"posted":1710866456},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296348,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296342
>My sir, this is not a sony thread
They learned from the best.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1710867625749496.jpg","filename":"Minolta_Creative_Expansion_Card_Portrait.jpg"},"posted":1710867625},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296349,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296341
>the extra 1mm matters to you
Now 2mm with the 10-20mm

>no one except broke truckers and ken rockwell still use lenses that old
Where's the 200mm Z macro?

>finding out a budget friendly ken rockwell favorite is hazy and purple
Ken's never led me astray, except on Grado headphones.
They did sound good until they broke though.","attachment":null,"posted":1710868015},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296351,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296349
>10-20mm f4
This lens doesn't even cover full frame before the distortion correction turns it from a shitty fisheye to a rectilinear lens. Nikon's going to take a while to release a counterpart to this if they follow their current trend (not relying on ridiculously excessive corrections).

also see: the rf 50mm f1.2 vignetting almost twice as much as the z 50mm f1.2. it's basically an aps-c lense.","attachment":null,"posted":1710868383},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296358,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296351
>not relying on ridiculously excessive corrections
It was one of the first lenses they released.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1710868852465825.png","filename":"Nikon_58mm_0-95_Noct_Internal_Construction.png"},"posted":1710868852},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296360,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296358
>noooo optical corrections are bad too!
Yannick pls go.","attachment":null,"posted":1710868930},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296361,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296349
Difference is I already own the 11-24 and not the 10-24. I built up ef lens collection using an old 1ds mkiii I got for cheap, and went mirrorless with the R. It honestly still works fine I don’t NEED an upgrade, but if the Nikon is the at much nicer, heck why not when the R finally breaks lol. Sounds like I’d have all my lens coverage anyway, and the only thing I don’t see having on z is the ts17, but I don’t own that yet anyway. Got some stuff to think about.","attachment":null,"posted":1710868979},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296362,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296360
>It's only "excessive" when I say so","attachment":null,"posted":1710868987},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296367,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296361
The only reason you're looking at Nikon is because of the 85mm or is that someone else?

>I already own the 11-24
Lucky you.
I think I'd be scared of hitting that front element on everything.","attachment":null,"posted":1710869206},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296362
>>4296358
Are you really comparing correcting optical aberrations by bending light to correction a lens that doesn't cover full frame by digitally stretching the image

What's next, sony compares clear image (AI) zoom to telephotos?","attachment":null,"posted":1710869406},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296370,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296369
Digital or optical, they're still corrections.","attachment":null,"posted":1710869517},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296361
since canon T/S lenses are manual focus the adapters just transmit exif and run the aperture. they work on all mirrorless brands.

>>4296370
pilpul bullshit","attachment":null,"posted":1710869536},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296373,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296341
>That makes Nikon unironically more committed to reflex than pentax
Disingenuous take
>and way more than canon (stopping production of all DSLR products).
Fair is fair, fuck them. If they didn't have the shortstack mount I'd shoot something else. Can't wait for the next K-3 to dethrone the 90D as the king of reach.","attachment":null,"posted":1710869983},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296375,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296367
Im op, I was initially looking for an 85mm and saw those for RF mount. And then the Nikon shillers came and I’m not entirely opposed to the idea lol.

Suppose I could cheap out and use the ef 85, like someone else said.","attachment":null,"posted":1710869990},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296377,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296375
>I’m not entirely opposed to the idea lol
If you want to bust your balls selling all your stuff just for one lens, go ahead.

Are you looking to sell the 1Ds MkIII?","attachment":null,"posted":1710870246},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296378,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296371
>pilpul bullshit
Then what do you call them?","attachment":null,"posted":1710870359},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296380,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296375
you dont actually have to sell all your stuff tho, depending on how much you want out of autofocus (full magic crutch mode for 90% hit rates on 60fps bursts vaguely pointed at a spastic quarterback, which IIRC you need an RF lens with beefier, newer motors for anyways, or "works great")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LoU553rJmc","attachment":null,"posted":1710870661},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296382,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296373
>It's disingenuous to say that the company that has more, and better reflex products in current production DESPITE having a successful mirrorless lineup has a greater commitment to reflex than the one that tried and failed to transition KAF mount cameras to mirrorless and ran out of R&D money, killed the 645z succcessor, and had tamron make basically every single zoom
Nikon is committed to reflex because they like DSLRs. They're the ones who continued making brand new professional film cameras until 2020.

Pentax is "committed" to reflex like a 2/10 is committed to his fat girlfriend after striking out with everyone under 500lbs.","attachment":null,"posted":1710870842},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296377
Yes the prospect of replacing lenses with z/f equivalents sounds like a chore desu. I wouldn’t switch just for a single lens, but I guess I was thinking more I’m not ideologically married to canon or anything like that. Perhaps the ef85/1.4 is in my future
>looking to sell the 1Ds?
Nah, even if I got rid of everything else I think I’d still keep that beast with a nifty fifty. Something about snapshitting with a massive brick that could beat back a wino just seems pretty fun.
>>4296380
I already do use ef lenses on my R and have no issue, I meant more if I somehow ended up switching systems but I think at this point for me that’s just unnecessary.","attachment":null,"posted":1710870881},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296383
desu RF mount is basically
>just adapt EF
so the logical course of action is to get rid of the point and shit, keep the DSLR, get a 6dii for a travel body, and keep snapping away until every EF lens in the world finally dies","attachment":null,"posted":1710871019},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296387,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296382
>Nikon is "committed" to reflex because they have inventory
ftfy","attachment":null,"posted":1710871081},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296388,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296383
>I think I’d still keep that beast with a nifty fifty. Something about snapshitting with a massive brick that could beat back a wino just seems pretty fun
It is.
I've been looking at a 35mm IS just for my 1D.
The 40mm f/2.8 would have been perfect for full frame if only it used internal or rear focusing.","attachment":null,"posted":1710871214},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296389,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296387
Pentax was one of the original companies attempting to push MILCs. The reflex commitment is a ruse. They never liked SLRs, just they failed at everything else. The K-1 is an A7R sensor (color science included) shoved in the vague remnants of a scrapped MF SLRs plans and they've been rebadging the same 3 cameras ever since. Now they're even re-releasing lenses from the early 90s as ricoh desperately tries to finish recouping their "investment" so they can hope to turn a profit off half frame point and shits. Fujislug tier brand.","attachment":null,"posted":1710871246},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296390,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296389
>re-releasing lenses from the early 90s
When will they start re-releasing the good ones?","attachment":null,"posted":1710871313},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296392,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296390
When the lone ricoh salaryman in charge of pentax finds the manufacturing equipment in a warehouse and makes room in the budget by working 5 years of unpaid overtime","attachment":null,"posted":1710871429},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296393,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296375
>>4296301
As someone who's actually used both, the L is worth whatever they want to charge for it, it's flawless. It is massive though, certainly in the "think twice before packing" category, so if you don't have any emergent need for it it's difficult to justify the purchase. DS version is a meme, barely makes a difference to the look and only does anything at all when shooting wide open, but also cuts your exposure. The EF versions are all better choices than the RF f/2 imho, that includes the 1.8, 1.4 and 1.2.

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Flawless lenses get so boring
>oooooh aaaaaaah there is no astigmatism visible on this pine needle on the edge or this eyelash in the center oooooooooooooh this was worth my $3000
>*zooms out*
Maybe, the voigtlander people were right all along. Flawless, soulless lenses but they're cheaper because manual so you can afford a wider variety of interesting things.","attachment":null,"posted":1710871933},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296395,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296392
Imagine","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1710871944179969.jpg","filename":"Pentax_Lenses.jpg"},"posted":1710871944},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296394
threadly reminder that autofocus is satanic","attachment":null,"posted":1710873253},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296398
the concept of satanic concepts is a barrier to gnosis","attachment":null,"posted":1710873448},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296401,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296386
Canon decided either top tier top dollar glass or bottom of the barrel trash and no in between for RF. EF glass works seamlessly enough that it makes more sense to get the cheaper glass imo if you’re stuck on an RF body. Not sure I understand the business plan but Japan works in mysterious ways","attachment":null,"posted":1710873712},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296402,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296316
>>4296320
You’re not actually so retarded to think the mirror forms some sort of hermetic seal over the sensor, right?

>>4296342
The contrarian squad has decided to start claiming Nikon is superior now, eh?

>>4296313
Yes, the infamous Western practice of holding Weddings outdoor when it’s raining.

>>4296320
Pretty sure they’re #1 due to having an absolutely massive spread of price-points, and EF glass being near universal across every camera system. In a decade, it’s probably going to be only them, Leica (Veblen goods), Sony and Panasonic left standing. Sony leads on sensor tech, Canon is vertically integrated and similarly diversified and Panasonic is Leica’s contract manufacturer.

Olympus should’ve made it, because m43 was a rounding error for them, but the accounting scandal ruined the company and the investors demanded they jettison anything not central to their medical imaging biz more or less.","attachment":null,"posted":1710874616},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296404,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296402
>In a decade, it’s probably going to be only them, Leica (Veblen goods), Sony and Panasonic left standing
Sigma too.","attachment":null,"posted":1710874886},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296405,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296404
Actually it will be only Sigma left. As the barriers that make CFAs a practical necessity continue to erode, eventually everything will use Foveon sensors. We will approach a film era situation where everyone uses the same sensor, but just builds interesting features into their bodies around the sensors. I think that the final companies will actually be;
>Sigma, obviously but they will no longer make bodies
>Pentax, filling the nice market of the DSLR foveon experince
>either canon or sony (only one will survive) as the 'pro' choice
>Lecia, in the same niche it has now
>Fuji, retro bodied Foveons
and that's it. everything else goes away","attachment":null,"posted":1710875805},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296407,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296301
RF lenses are not worth any price. It's optical slop aimed at soulless wedding photographers.","attachment":null,"posted":1710875866},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296408,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296398
>666
HEIL SATAN
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>666","attachment":null,"posted":1710875927},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296316
>Sony doesnt except for the G master prime and $2000+ bodies like the a7iv and a7rv.
Not true
Do better research before spreading misinformation
Idiot","attachment":null,"posted":1710876006},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296408
Geh dich umbringen du verfickter
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>>4296404
>>4296402
Advanced cANNOT cope

>>4296409
Sony weather sealing doesnt work lol","attachment":null,"posted":1710876882},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296417,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296405
>Still no full frame Foveon","attachment":null,"posted":1710878596},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296405
m43 foveon when","attachment":null,"posted":1710879749},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296423,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296405
>Fuji, retro bodied Foveons
Neo-"retro" kitsch is not enough to sustain an entire business on.
Fujifilm is learning this and Nikon knows it, which is why they only release a body in the style once a decade.","attachment":null,"posted":1710880163},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296425,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296420
When the 4/3 system is commercially relevant again.
[spoiler] Never [/spoiler]","attachment":null,"posted":1710880307},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296435,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296382
Pentax's lineup is 100% reflex.
>>4296387
This lol.
>>4296389
They tried MILC, people rightfully rejected it and they listened.
>The K-1 is an A7R sensor (color science included) shoved in
You could say the same thing about the D810. Sensors aren't reflex or mirrorless specific. A mirrorless camera is a gutted reflex stuck in live view sold for more money, usually with a new mount that requires new lenses that are sold for more money than their reflex equivalent, sold on the premise that DLSRs are allegedly obsolete.
>they've been rebadging the same 3 cameras ever since
KF is the only rebadge
>Now they're even re-releasing lenses from the early 90s as ricoh desperately tries to finish recouping their "investment" so they can hope to turn a profit off half frame point and shits
Those lenses are just like a Gibson R8","attachment":null,"posted":1710882699},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296417
it's coming, you just have to believe

>>4296420
never

>>4296423
It is. Fuji is just has a greedy 'infinite growth' model. You could easily run a business on "Neo-"retro" kitsch" if you wanted too","attachment":null,"posted":1710885846},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296458,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296449
>you just have to believe
I believe it; I just don't know if I'll be alive to see it.","attachment":null,"posted":1710887917},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296417
There are rumors that sony exmor is making them a sensor.","attachment":null,"posted":1710889894},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296471,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296301

i am not sure, get one with canon coatings, one can probably etch circuitboards with third party ones","attachment":null,"posted":1710893104},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296435
Actual
Cope

Pentax cant make a good camera in any format. They went back to the last thing that sold because their mirrorless was just as bad as their DSLR live view would imply. They barely sell anything anyways.","attachment":null,"posted":1710894899},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296476
>their mirrorless was just as bad as their DSLR live view would imply.
it was really weird the bizzaro k-01 brick they unleashed on us. Couldn't make it really smaller or lighter than a dslr because they kept the k mount and the dslr flange distance. couldn't really have the benefits seen in other mirrorless cams because as you say their live view is shit. the sensor was old and the processing was nothing remarkable. the ergos were weird. you really wonder what kind of jenkem the salarymen on the k01 team were huffing, and why they didn't poach the talent on the Q team. The Q was extremely based except for the tiny sensor. cell phone sensor renders it a toy camera essentially but otherwise its what pentax should have iterated for their proper mirrorless.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1710897354071394.jpg","filename":"Pentax_K_01.jpg"},"posted":1710897354},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296489,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296476
>Pentax cant make a good camera in any format.
depends on what you want out of a camera
k-1 fits my needs perfectly fine

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I wish I was as based as the average pentaxian

>>4296476
The difference is actually that people who shoot pentax are real photographers who aren't wowed by stupid bullshit consumerism, so when pentax tried to release an inferior camera technology, they (rightly) rejected it.","attachment":null,"posted":1710905998},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296489
looks like micro four thirds desu

>>4296506
holy cope","attachment":null,"posted":1710910142},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296517,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296515
>looks like micro four thirds desu
holy cope","attachment":null,"posted":1710910764},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296517
>aperture and ISO within the reach of equivalence
>is a pentax so soft lens, equivalent with crop sensor softness (but not reach)
>dead company that cant do video, so equivalent with olympus
>therefore at f1.8 or smaller and over ISO 400 the pentax K-1 reaches equivalence with the OM-1
QED.

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Isn't it the sharpest RF lens though? Not that it justifies the price or anything but","attachment":null,"posted":1710911558},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296524
I love how people still think sharpness is what you want for portraits.","attachment":null,"posted":1710912725},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296549,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296521
left looks like a phone or pentax","attachment":null,"posted":1710921916},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296528
but how else would you see all those pimples, blemishes and hairs so you could bill more hours to the client for post-processing?","attachment":null,"posted":1710921980},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296301
The Sigma Art 85mm f/1.4 is better and cheaper than both of these.
Chuck on the EF-RF adaptor and you're set.","attachment":null,"posted":1710933903},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296576,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296301
Yes, F1.2/1.4 glass is worth it assuming you are not fussed by weight/size and use the focal length a lot.","attachment":null,"posted":1710938257},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296622,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296324
>the average joe is buying a 300-1200mm lens
lmao idiot","attachment":null,"posted":1710950011},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296623,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296521
cANON been real quiet since this one","attachment":null,"posted":1710950178},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296666,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296521
>aperture and ISO within the reach of equivalence
You got me there
>dead company that cant do video, so equivalent with olympus
Olympus can do video quite decently and their stabilization can replace a gimbal
>therefore at f1.8 or smaller and over ISO 400 the pentax K-1 reaches equivalence with the OM-1
The only f/0.9 lenses for MFT are chink garbage except for that 35mm equivalent Voigtlander","attachment":null,"posted":1710955086},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296669,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296623
I hadn't seen it, been working all day. He posted it at 8:06 a.m. and my holidays are over.","attachment":null,"posted":1710955236},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296669
>holidays
>8:06am
I used to think you were cool when I thought you were american. I am heartbroken to know that you are some eurocuck","attachment":null,"posted":1710965186},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296301
You won't be able to take a good photo until Nikon releases a 24-120 f/2.8. Then once you buy that, the good photos will flow forth. Until then everything will be mediocre. You will buy lens after lens thinking you need this sharpness or that aperture and you will never, ever be happy with any of it.

Hope this helps.

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How did you get that panasonic lens on to the XH2?","attachment":null,"posted":1710972523},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296722
Papa canon will get there first. Canikon chads will enjoy while you panasnoys seethe

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>24-105
Nope, not even close, and the worst part is you have to buy a cannot POS R to use it
>mushy shadows from forced NR
>blob with incorrect dial/button placement
>colors so bad sony looks good
>self-destructing R5s
>video-focused junk
>drops to 12 bit raws when in e-shutter
>worst of all: no soul.","attachment":null,"posted":1710979554},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296765
Nothing you listed would prevent them from stretching that puppy out an extra 15mm. Not a single one.","attachment":null,"posted":1710981580},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296771,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296726
>canon
>admitting a mistake with a whole new product
If they were going to it would have already been a 24-120.

Canon makes a mediocre piece of gear
Nikon one ups them 3 years later
Pros are stuck on canon since the film OS system anyways so canon still makes money because they are the microsoft office of cameras - bloated junk with historical inertia keeping institutional users stuck, and sheeple blindly imitating them. Nikon is the mac of cameras. Better in every way eventually but only if you’re rich enough to start over or are new to the game.

This is just how the camera market functions

And Sony = chinese copy of windows","attachment":null,"posted":1710982195},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4296791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296506
>people who shoot pentax are real photographers
let's not get carried away here
being a pentax user requires massive amounts of cope
>>4296521
>is a pentax so soft lens
okay, show how sharp your camera's photos are at ISO 3200

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Maybe he's an expat in Saudi Arabia","attachment":null,"posted":1710986079},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4297007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296693
hey im a yuropoor too","attachment":null,"posted":1711044364},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4297049,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296622
So you're saying that's a good deal for a rebadged Sigma?","attachment":null,"posted":1711052417},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4297050,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4296771
>Nikon is the mac of cameras
I agree.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711052666679493.png","filename":"Nikon_Dads.png"},"posted":1711052666},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4297057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297050
>niggon uses literal nigger faggots in their promotional material.
How will you people ever recover from this?","attachment":null,"posted":1711053464},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4297200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297049
yes, since they added OIS","attachment":null,"posted":1711086197},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4297485,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297200
Lol no
https://www.sigma-global.com/en/lenses/s021_150_600_5_63/","attachment":null,"posted":1711175552},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4297531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Unless you are a professional, don't get the f1.2

I have the f2 and it's great. I don't even often use it because I really gravitate towards the f1.8 35mm and the newer f2.8 28mm","attachment":null,"posted":1711204554},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4297537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297531
>cannot pos r users think weather sealing is only for professionals
this is how olympus and pentax users got such big egos","attachment":null,"posted":1711206130},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4297564,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296476

espio weather sealed 135 film compact seems good idea, too bulky though

k7 sooc jpeg is nice","attachment":null,"posted":1711211151},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4297760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296484
This camera will be a sought-after collectible in 19 years, trust me.","attachment":null,"posted":1711264578},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4300934,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296301
f/1.2 is god tier

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Better off with a zeiss 85 1.2","attachment":null,"posted":1713734369},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4306832,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300934
>he bought a $3,000 lens to take snapshits of his cat","attachment":null,"posted":1713860937},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4306835,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4306832
you wouldnt?

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No, I bought a $100 lens to take snapshits of my dog. (Tamron 85mm f/1.8 VC, Nikon D800)

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Good man","attachment":null,"posted":1713867424},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4307611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4296528
It is, wanting a "soft" lens for any subject is a meme for people high on fucking copium or deliberately wanting a visibly soft image not in focus. Usually for some meme artsy shit.
If you stop over baking images with post-process sharpening which literally highlights subtle textures and draws rings around it, "local contrast" which emphasizes any redness or gradients, and any other form of "slider" that retards who use Adobe software use all the time, you want a sharp lens.

Optical sharpness is the goal. Always has been, always will be.
Stop applying fake sharpness and you'll see how soft optics usually are, and then you'll be able to appreciate TRUE sharpness, from sharp glass, when you can simply not apply the fake shit.

There's literally no such thing as too sharp.
All instances of such a thing (and I mean ALL) where people even reference lenses being "too sharp" are always from retards looking at baked images. They're usually using Adobe software with sliders cranked up (defaults, btw) or they have sharpening enabled that they're not even aware of like with Adobe's "capture sharpening" bullshit that they might be oblivious to.
Everyone crying about stuff being too sharp is always busted for being an overbaked faggot if any research is done.
For example, anyone using dehaze/"local contrast"/curves/enhancements.","attachment":null,"posted":1714086293},{"board":"p","thread":4296301,"pid":4311272,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Get this, pay 300, thank me later.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715090325513541.png","filename":"viltrox-rf-85mm-f-1-8-af-canon-rf_46854_1.png"},"posted":1715090325}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why do old photographs looks so crystal sharp? Is it because of the giant glass negatives?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711144129451789.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1711144129},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297372,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4297371
Yea p much. Also you're only seeing the keepers and none of the rejects.","attachment":null,"posted":1711144322},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297385,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297371
They used Perfectly Clear. Please support my growing family.","attachment":null,"posted":1711146847},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297371
>i dont know what hyperfocal distance is
>i think 2.3MP is high resolution","attachment":null,"posted":1711147168},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297385
Go to bed Ken","attachment":null,"posted":1711150171},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297395,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297394
It's hard to get any sleep in the Rockwell house.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711150334380646.png","filename":"Katie_Rockwell.png"},"posted":1711150334},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297395
how the fuck did she get so fat","attachment":null,"posted":1711150440},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297397
GROWING FAMILY
DISTENDING FAMILY
EXPANDING FAMILY
ENGORGING FAMILY
ENLARGING FAMILY
SWELLING FAMILY

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She's literally standing in front of the reason.","attachment":null,"posted":1711150880},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297401,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4297386
resolution=/=sharpness","attachment":null,"posted":1711150993},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297403,"name":"billy3d","msg":">>4297395
>simp
>fat
>snapshit in front of the frozen food aisle

jesus christ ken","attachment":null,"posted":1711151748},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297406,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297397","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711152632833325.jpg","filename":"Pierce_Brosnan_the_Architect.jpg"},"posted":1711152632},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297407,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297403
>fat
All the better to smother me with.","attachment":null,"posted":1711152717},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297409,"name":"cinefag","msg":">>4297406
Based","attachment":null,"posted":1711153807},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297395
>>4297397
>>4297403","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711154455399716.png","filename":"Katie_Rockwell_Growing.png"},"posted":1711154455},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297462,"name":"billy3d","msg":">>4297414
>>4297406
>>4297395
wait how old is she","attachment":null,"posted":1711167834},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297492,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297414
>the list of ken rockwell's family is incomplete
>you can help by expanding it
Holy fuck I would take this plap cow down to breeding barn. I'm smiling just imagining the over-saturated photos of our children","attachment":null,"posted":1711178135},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297500,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4297462
Old enough.","attachment":null,"posted":1711184284},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297534,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297414
w i d e","attachment":null,"posted":1711205437},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297948,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297414
I'll just look at one of his landscape shots to burn my retina clean.","attachment":null,"posted":1711317532},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4297986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297395
THIC","attachment":null,"posted":1711332230},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4298256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297397
Sideways growing family","attachment":null,"posted":1711406690},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4300665,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297395
how did you find this? its not anywhere on his site","attachment":null,"posted":1712096623},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4300678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297414
What made him think this awkward side eye photo was worth keeping and what stops him from taking some of that cannot POS R money and sending his kids to phys ed (aka the gym)","attachment":null,"posted":1712099683},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4301862,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297401
>>4297386
well, resolution =/= pixel dimensions
a 1mp photo can have a higher optical resolution than a 2mp photo if more details are resolved","attachment":null,"posted":1712450744},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4301867,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301862
>well ackshually
shut the fuck up retard","attachment":null,"posted":1712452497},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4301941,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301867
chill out man","attachment":null,"posted":1712469285},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4302139,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297371
They aren't apprecially sharper than a medium format camera or even a 35 taking on high quality film stock using a tripod and taking care of a good exposure with correct aperture.

In terms of resolution, the lens is available back then we're deporably bad. Modern ones are so much better. Modern computer design better glasses and Coatings make a lot of difference. And also the newer film stocks are so much better than the old glass plate stuff.","attachment":null,"posted":1712527852},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4302140,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297414
>>4297395
I thought Ken Rockwell had closed up his photography site. It's got like finding one of those really old websites and realizing it's still around. Even though it hasn't had really good content or an update nor decade.","attachment":null,"posted":1712527916},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4302166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302139
And yet the sharpness in OP BTFO of whatever snapshit digital shit you have.","attachment":null,"posted":1712535620},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4302186,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302139
Have you seen modern daguerrotypes?","attachment":null,"posted":1712543150},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4302209,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302166
>3 megapixel photo
An a7s with a potato lens could do that","attachment":null,"posted":1712549238},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4302300,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302166
I'm a hassleblad owner and I own and 8x10 gandalfi View Camera along with a bunch of digital including a 6D Mark 2

>>4302186
Yes and I absolutely hate that retro look.","attachment":null,"posted":1712585588},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4302675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297414
>>4297395
Is this the same girl?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712670895314319.png","filename":"kenrockdona.png"},"posted":1712670895},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4302678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302675
Both his kids got fat and clearly uncomfortable with cameras

Such is life when your dad is a turbo sperg gearfag with a blog of contradictions
>ken when he feels better than other people
>LENS SHARPNESS DOESNT MATTER!
>GEAR DOESNT MATTER ALL CAMERAS ARE GOOD BUY A D7200
>ken when the only F mount pancake isnt sharp in the corners
>THIS IS OVERPRICED GARBAGE
>ken when he gets the one bad z7
>IM BUYING AN R5 AND ALL THE RF L LENSES","attachment":null,"posted":1712672803},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4302760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301867
Where do you think you are nigger?","attachment":null,"posted":1712686231},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4302910,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297371
wide equivalent FOV compared to FF. Combined with tiny apertures (everything in focus) and long exposure. Voila. Very sharp.","attachment":null,"posted":1712707875},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4304341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297371
>Is it because of the giant glass negatives?

probably. Those large formats had to have a megapixel equivalent of like over 100. it's amazing they were able to make sharp lenses.","attachment":null,"posted":1713134133},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4304356,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302678
>calling someone else a turbo sperg when you're the one unable to read contextual cues like the date something is published, or the shift in tone between a recommendation to a mug punter and an actual technical analysis, which he frequently gives both of, or between a statement of opinion vs fact, comparison vs absolutism, etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1713138582},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4304446,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4300665
Look under Ryan Rockwell's page.","attachment":null,"posted":1713160268},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4306416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"wheres all yalls bmws at 16. gotta feed that growing senpai nigga","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713740667999322.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-04-21 at 17-58-16 Ryan Rockwell.png"},"posted":1713740667},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4306420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306416
>believability of ken being a millionaire from selling condos goes up 100%
Wow, these iphones are amazing

I can hardly tell it from his canon R5","attachment":null,"posted":1713741943},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4308020,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297395
>Saturated fat
>>4297397
Saturated fat, probably.","attachment":null,"posted":1714218870},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4311445,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308020
Kek","attachment":null,"posted":1715111381},{"board":"p","thread":4297371,"pid":4311469,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4306416
Uh oh.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715117945753061.jpg","filename":"Supreme_Gentlemans_Car.jpg"},"posted":1715117945}]} {"title":"A Thread To Investigate The Curious Nature of Leicafags","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Leicafags are an interesting species.
This is a thread to try and comprehend the minds of these consumerist retards.
Their subreddit, the premier place for Leica fans, has a rule explicitly stating that any photos need to "demonstrate a skill or technique that is incredibly difficult to execute correctly, has not been seen before, or both"
All the photos in the subreddit do not fit this idiotic criteria, yet are lauded.
99% of the posts there are about people buying gear instead of photos.
They care more about being seen with a Leica than actually using it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711160660799639.png","filename":"Leica_Camera_logo.svg.png"},"posted":1711160660},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297439,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Here is a random assortment of a few photos from the subreddit that apparently follow the criteria, otherwise they would be deleted right?
>demonstrate a skill or technique that is incredibly difficult to execute correctly, has not been seen before, or both
Nothing difficult or uniquely captured via Leica that can't be done with any other camera","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711160723106456.jpg","filename":"3AW3bpx9BN3vmt1NI1OJYu8ug10WbT1od-P-i-s1Dpw.jpg"},"posted":1711160723},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">demonstrate a skill or technique that is incredibly difficult to execute correctly, has not been seen before, or both
Blurry out of focus shot of nothing, poor composition and endorsement of alcohol
Garbage","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711160785582712.jpg","filename":"0oxe5a3s30s91.jpg"},"posted":1711160785},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297441,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">demonstrate a skill or technique that is incredibly difficult to execute correctly, has not been seen before, or both
Decent shot, poor composition and framing, but also nothing that can't have been done with another camera.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711160879782101.jpg","filename":"did-you-that-the-m10-battery-lasts-3-minutes-in-41c-v0-56iscjdpb6nc1.jpg"},"posted":1711160879},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297442,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">demonstrate a skill or technique that is incredibly difficult to execute correctly, has not been seen before, or both
Dude his head is like covered by the post bro it's like about how technology and conformity cover our identities bro do you get it bro
Again, nothing about the shot is unique to Leica.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711160960023170.jpg","filename":"IRkFYEJl2zwe3nzPCUluZAYx-AvXTQTUhBUa0qc1wtY.jpg"},"posted":1711160960},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">demonstrate a skill or technique that is incredibly difficult to execute correctly, has not been seen before, or both
Literal nothing shot of a guy walking across the road
The shadows aren't interesting, the composition is boring, the tones are flat.
The only reason they think this is good is because it's Leica","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711161029597599.jpg","filename":"what-do-you-do-with-your-photos-v0-oqwcbl5czyub1.jpg"},"posted":1711161029},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297444,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">demonstrate a skill or technique that is incredibly difficult to execute correctly, has not been seen before, or both
Tiny and horribly focused shot of a deer or elk or fawn (i'm not a biologist) doing nothing and not even posed in an interesting way.
Most of the photo is branded with the film stock they used instead of caring about the actual photography.
Again, nothing about this stands out as unique to Leica.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711161110443300.jpg","filename":"wildlife-photography-with-the-m3-v0-cq1q15827w8b1.jpg"},"posted":1711161110},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297445,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">demonstrate a skill or technique that is incredibly difficult to execute correctly, has not been seen before, or both
This is the only one I kind of like, but this was the last photo in a set that previously was photos of a woman in a bikini. I refused to save and post those shots because I do not care for women or photos of women or women as subjects of photographs.
This shot took more skill than the others because you have to go underwater, but again, any random film camera that can go underwater can take this shot.
The "Leica look" is meaningless.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711161186916576.jpg","filename":"q3-underwater-v0-otuowmernohc1.jpg"},"posted":1711161186},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297446,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">demonstrate a skill or technique that is incredibly difficult to execute correctly, has not been seen before, or both
Literal snapshot of an out of focus kitty with no composition","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711161406588552.jpg","filename":"ttartisan-21mm-1-5-first-shots-m8-v0-6cqkgvycryoc1.jpg"},"posted":1711161406},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297447,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">demonstrate a skill or technique that is incredibly difficult to execute correctly, has not been seen before, or both
Again, another no composition, no story, no nothing snapshot but it was taken with a Leica so it must be gold","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711161469113728.jpg","filename":"snowshoeing-in-the-arctic-circle-finnish-lapland-with-my-m6-v0-alzd7bu42xoc1.jpg"},"posted":1711161469},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297450,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297444
This is why I just have fun taking pics of things I like. Eye of the beholder, etc. It gets so gay when you add all the pretentious art bs. It's almost like that page is being satirical with these pictures, but they are dead serious.

I don't hate Leicas either. I just think they're another toy to have fun with...","attachment":null,"posted":1711162646},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297438
It's almost like the type of person to demonstrate that they have purchased the expensive, luxury version of something are same type to get high off their own farts. Imagine that!

>>4297439
I do like this one, though.","attachment":null,"posted":1711163312},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297438
OP is an insecure poorfag roasting a bunch of other people’s photos without having the guts to post their own - probably because they are a trash photog anyway. I see the same shit talking about Leica shooters from poors all the time. Let me tell you what it’s really about.

* Manual rangefinders are fast
* Short flange distance means lenses with amazing quality can also be v small
* Leica makes cameras that last forever

Really the first thing I do when I get a new Leica body that has a red logo is remove or cover it, and tons of other Leica shooters do this too

In conclusion op is fake and gay","attachment":null,"posted":1711169290},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Looks like you caught a live one OP","attachment":null,"posted":1711169368},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297445
>>I do not care for women or photos of women
>>the Leica look is meaningless

I’m starting to suspect this whole thing is just bait, nobody is actually this retarded","attachment":null,"posted":1711169638},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297468,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297464
>* Manual rangefinders are fast
An SLR with a microprism or split prism is actually faster
>* Short flange distance means lenses with amazing quality can also be v small
Lots of SLR lenses are super sharp and reasonably compact, less than 1/2" longer
>* Leica makes cameras that last forever
Leica cameras are notoriously fiddly and need frequent servicing. Some of their highest priced models had fatal flaws like rusty sensors, failing buttons, and firmware crashes.","attachment":null,"posted":1711169985},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297469,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297466
It is. He has been posting his somewhat warranted leica hate in atleast two other threads, and was inspired by a certain someone to make this thread. It's kind funny, I guess.","attachment":null,"posted":1711169994},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297472,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297468
>>An SLR with a microprism or split prism is actually faster
In what world is spinning a 6” diameter focus ring 180 degrees faster than spinning a 4” diameter focus tab 90?
>> Lots of SLR lenses are super sharp and reasonably compact, less than 1/2" longer
That’s what I said, rf lenses are smaller. You forget to mention that besides longer, slr lenses of the same focal length and aperture will also have a larger diameter due to the more aggressive corrections needed for the longer flange distance


>> Leica cameras are notoriously fiddly and need frequent servicing. Some of their highest priced models had fatal flaws like rusty sensors, failing buttons, and firmware crashes.
I’ve got leica bodies from the 1930s all the way to modern day and they all work fine.","attachment":null,"posted":1711170599},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297473,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297472
>In what world is spinning a 6” diameter focus ring 180 degrees faster than spinning a 4” diameter focus tab 90?
1: I don't have girl fingers
2: SLR focus confirmation is more precise. SLR composition is more precise. Everything is done faster. Just don't have bitch fingers.
>That’s what I said, rf lenses are smaller. You forget to mention that besides longer, slr lenses of the same focal length and aperture will also have a larger diameter due to the more aggressive corrections needed for the longer flange distance
This is basically pure fucking bullshit. Smaller RF lenses are WORSE, the "legendary" ones are the same fucking size as SLR gear because they both use "more aggressive corrections".
>I’ve got leica bodies from the 1930s all the way to modern day and they all work fine.
Now I know it's a larp or disingenuous (you're avoiding the shit models) because leica is plagued with shit models with unrepairable failing light meters, self-tearing shutters, light meters that cant be repaired, rusty sensors, shit firmware, dead buttons, etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1711170735},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297472
if you cant spin both rings at the same speed you have a genuine disability. the leica would feel more delicate, but it should actually be slower due to less precision inherent to using a shorter scale. you should be able to turn each ring lock to lock in the same amount of time but stop on a correct focus point faster with less hunting on the SLR.

there's a reason leicas are jewelry and recreational (LARP/fashion) kit and the whole world went to SLRs, and even mirrorless is just based on the concept of the SLR.","attachment":null,"posted":1711170851},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The itoddlers of the camera world","attachment":null,"posted":1711172467},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297440
>>4297446
>>4297447
these are crap but at least the others are pleasing to look at even though none of them are groundbreaking or difficult","attachment":null,"posted":1711172671},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297482,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">posts photos better than 90% of what gets posted on /p/
haha epic win OP, you sure pwned the leicafags!","attachment":null,"posted":1711174633},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297488,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Wow you can tell who is a leicafag","attachment":null,"posted":1711177866},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297489,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297438
>99% of the posts there are about people buying gear instead of photos.
Totally unlike this place. What utter faggots","attachment":null,"posted":1711177908},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>angry about what camera someone uses

Anyone who cares what someone else does with their own hardware is a complete degenerate OP probably uses an android phone with a broken screen and talks shit about iPhone users to the other students in his special ed class","attachment":null,"posted":1711193041},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297438
I hate it that leica is such a fucking meme. Because I'd love to own a digital rangefinder. But leica prices are just too high. Such a camera isn't worth more than a mid-range SLR mirror less.","attachment":null,"posted":1711197494},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This is my $12,000 custom Leica M11 with a $12,500 50mm f/0.95 Leica Noctilux on it.

OP is right tons of cameras can take good photos. But only a Leica looks good in your hands while you do it.

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neat, can you post some pics from it?","attachment":null,"posted":1711204074},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297518
Lmao what reddit post did you get this from?","attachment":null,"posted":1711204120},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297518
I don't care if it looks cool albeit, I'm not a cool person","attachment":null,"posted":1711205790},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297518
Only camera nerds think so and only camera nerds know what it is. Leica only impresses other loser men.","attachment":null,"posted":1711205963},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297538,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297530
https://www.reddit.com/r/Leica/comments/1bbhdff/50mm_f095_noctilux_arrived_today_i_am_in_awe_of/","attachment":null,"posted":1711206171},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297538
>>4297530
Is this better?

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neat, can you post some pics from it?","attachment":null,"posted":1711207854},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297547,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297545
Sure. Here it is at f/0.95.

(f-stop number in the EXIF data is wrong because Leica doesn't actually store that information and Lightroom just tries to guess it.)

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Oh, I meant more like normal / actual pictures, unless that's what you mostly use it for I guess.
It's also the camera that guesstimates aperture, not Lightroom, but is usually off by 0.5 to 1 stop in my experience.","attachment":null,"posted":1711208934},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297553,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Leica-fags pay $12000 for a camera
>the camera doesn't even know what the aperture is.

Jesus fucking christ.","attachment":null,"posted":1711209140},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297554,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297553
nevermind that, why is his shutter speed 1/6","attachment":null,"posted":1711209245},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297558,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297547
the $1,000,000 question
Did you buy this because it was your dream camera after years of snapshitting around with film rangefinders, or because you wanted to "btfo /p/"","attachment":null,"posted":1711210306},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297559,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297558
I'll be honest I bought it because it looked cool.

I didn't even know how to focus with a rangefinder when I first got it. I had to watch a YouTube video, lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1711210386},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297559
>bought a brick with a coke can attached to the front for looks
go back and buy a hasselblad. leicas arent cool anymore. everyone just asks you which fujifilm you’re using or says “hey is that a canonet?”

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this is my 1700€ Nikon D200 with rubber eyecup and longer strap, 1500€ 17-55mm US serial with protection filter, 16GB 29MB/s write CF, current aftermarket valuation is like 555€ prefer not to trade

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Real question here is how2 money like you. You aren’t also dog hair large-format guy that got a big inheritance And wastes it all on shitty photos now ,
are you? Tho, I suppose this hobby does attract dumb richfags lol","attachment":null,"posted":1711219245},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297585,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297581
Most of us live by throwing our life savings at 5x shitcoin longs and 0dte SPY options on FOMC days until we kill ourselves","attachment":null,"posted":1711220035},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297590,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297585
>"us"
>"we"
No. Not everyone is retarded","attachment":null,"posted":1711222171},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297592,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297581
Obsessed.","attachment":null,"posted":1711222401},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I may just buy a Leica myself to may poorfags seethe.","attachment":null,"posted":1711222630},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297603,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297593
If you do it right you may even get an obsessed ankle biter that makes troll threads just for you!","attachment":null,"posted":1711223495},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297620,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297593
me too but I will rather get S

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As demonstrated here, Leicafags buy it to show off they can afford a Leica, not actually use it.","attachment":null,"posted":1711242261},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711242481550222.png","filename":"leicafags.png"},"posted":1711242481},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297712,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4297620
>reflex, 3:2 large sensor
Ah, a man of culture as well","attachment":null,"posted":1711248141},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297723,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297553
>>4297698
what is the benefit of the camera knowing the aperture?","attachment":null,"posted":1711252508},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297744,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297558
my m10-m came after years of snapshittin with these two
been a solid 3rd or 2nd camera for shoots, and prob my edc choice 40% of the time
>>4297723
nice for exif, maybe organizing by aperture for lens review / comparison / excel, but i don't really see much purpose for normal shooting
between memory / knowing optical qualities of your lenses, it's pretty easy to figure out what aperture was used for a given shot","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711258272023809.jpg","filename":"s2m4p.jpg"},"posted":1711258272},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297753,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297559
Based","attachment":null,"posted":1711263154},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297757,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"read the comparison of ultra fast 50s on Philip reeves blog to see how the noctilux gets mogged by Chinese lenses now.","attachment":null,"posted":1711263491},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297758,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4297757
So the pro strat is getting a leica body and chinese lenses?
Noted. I will return with more research.","attachment":null,"posted":1711263689},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297758
pro strat is the modern voigtlander m-mount lenses. theyre so disgustingly good on film. they have excellent contrast, minimal chromatic aberrations, and sharpness corner to corner from the widest aperture. they have excellent construction and are good value for money, especially if you are ok with a used copy.

i've been beating up a rollei 35 rf on hiking/backpacking trips and i have an m4-p that is pleasant to use, but i just don't shoot with it as much because i'd rather keep beating up the rollei on a lot of trips. in the end, theyre both just vehicles for my m-mount lenses of choice, which are the 40mm heliar, 50mm apo lanthar, and 28mm ultron v2. i'm hoping that voigtlander releases a 35mm color skopar v2, they have been refreshing their whole m-mount lineup and a pancake 35mm with updated optics would be great.","attachment":null,"posted":1711264639},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297771,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297450
>I just think they're another toy to have fun with
This sums all of the matters of muh leica bad.
only i don't like about is leica is expensive compare to the other toys.
maybe it's same as 3m ferrari vs 30k honda but i don't think it's the same.

I think the real subject leica should get shits thrown to is their SL series which is definitely aimed to be professional camera yet they made another toy that feels like professional not professional camera.

btw, when ERF comes? would they ever consider to make electronic range finder even?","attachment":null,"posted":1711272016},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297772,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297518
You look fucking rich and using your money like tap water, not because you have a leica but because you waste your money on buying 4chan pass","attachment":null,"posted":1711272461},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Best Leica

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based but the lens is little bit disappointing. here's the best lens

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They’re definitely toys lol. Real cameras have a TTL viewfinder. Electronic or otherwise.","attachment":null,"posted":1711293994},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297828,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297815
Is that the minolta?","attachment":null,"posted":1711297201},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4297874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297518
>pass user
>leica
masterful bait","attachment":null,"posted":1711306019},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298051,"name":"Sarabande","msg":">>4297518
The best looking one's are entirely black without the red logo","attachment":null,"posted":1711358263},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298053,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297518
It's nice but I cannot fathom why anyone would buy that. And I say this as a wealthy man who can afford anything I want.","attachment":null,"posted":1711358581},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298064,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297815
Fixed

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could've been told these are all iPhone pics and I wouldn't question it

being a leicafag truly is an illness","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711368978278382.jpg","filename":"thinking-of-printing-a-book-mostly-shot-with-a-m10-and-sl2-s-v0-fpvmqai6sg2c1.jpg"},"posted":1711368978},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298071,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">top /leicaphotos posts of all time (that aren't 80 years old scans)
omg sovl amarite","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711369202566468.jpg","filename":"a-few-shots-from-my-last-trip-v0-csa15xae0wec1.jpg"},"posted":1711369202},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298072,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">top /leicaphotos posts of all time (that aren't 80 years old scans)
literal AI enhanced photo (post is 2 months old so it's plausible)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711369337385715.jpg","filename":"a-few-shots-from-my-last-trip-v0-39rs6vae0wec1.jpg"},"posted":1711369337},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">top /leicaphotos posts of all time (that aren't 80 years old scans)
yellow fever
colour me shocked","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711369622482908.jpg","filename":"my-first-shoot-with-a-friend-m10r-v0-fjvx49oc39fc1.jpg"},"posted":1711369622},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298075,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">top /leicaphotos posts of all time (that aren't 80 years old scans)
my car is an old Porsche btw

it's a cult lmao","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711369867673499.jpg","filename":"ctvqei2n0hg51.jpg"},"posted":1711369867},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298076,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298069
>>4298071
>>4298072
>>4298074
>>4298075

>dislikes something
>spends time actively looking at it

ngmi","attachment":null,"posted":1711370297},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298078,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">top /leicaphotos posts of all time (that aren't 80 years old scans)
seriously what's up with the AI looking photos?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711370356520286.jpg","filename":"day-out-with-my-boy-and-the-q3-v0-nx2xwpps0soc1.jpg"},"posted":1711370356},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298086,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297438
>Leicafags are an interesting species.
leicafags are precisely the same as every other esoteric prosumerist for every other niche hobby
On /k/, theyre the retards that spend $4000+ on a faithful MK18 reproduction complete with suppressor, LMT/KAC lower, and DD upper, then probably never shoot
On /mu/gg, it's filthy third-worlders arguing about who has the perfect Les Paul because if it's not Gibson, the quality must be shit

essentially Leicafags are the epitome of "buying into" a hobby.
of every hobby that you could gearfag for, photography has to be one of the absolute worst, because almost every single camera within a "type bracket" (80's mech SLR, modern SLR, DSLR, RF, etc) functions almost exactly the same. Unless you're packing a Lytro or something, there's absolutely nothing you can do with your Leica RF camera that I can't do with an FE2, other than spend more money on the camera","attachment":null,"posted":1711373081},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298074
Couldn’t even move it up just a tiny bit to not cut off her head like, just looks so snapshitty amateurish lol. But muh bokeh I guess.","attachment":null,"posted":1711373611},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297543
That's some fucking fine handwriting.","attachment":null,"posted":1711377016},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297543
Jesus, leicafags truly are a cargo-cult.","attachment":null,"posted":1711377425},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298086
>seething about gibson
Ok monke

Leica is PRS private stock or a fender offset. No SOVL. Gibson is actually good.","attachment":null,"posted":1711377593},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298102,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298100
Actually fuji is fender offsets (no sovl, inherently bad design, nonartist darling)
Gibson = canon
Fender = nikon (fits since fuji is a soulless nikon copy)
Ibanez = panasonic
ESP = pentax
Cort = micro four thirds","attachment":null,"posted":1711377799},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298121,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4297543","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711382775048468.jpg","filename":"Vivzie.jpg"},"posted":1711382775},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298122,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298121
i didnt even notice the furfag OCs until you posted

>>4297543
yikes. why cant we have a richfag with taste who likes hasselblad and the good shit like fooly cooly?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711383012764978.jpg","filename":"maxresdefault (1).jpg"},"posted":1711383012},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298122
>richfag
>taste
>hasselblad
ngmi","attachment":null,"posted":1711383483},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298124
Like it or not, hasselblad is the peak of taste, and arri is the peak of taste and of technology (because lets be real, you dont need shit for tech for stills besides a big sensor and a lens that projects a pretty picture)","attachment":null,"posted":1711383772},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298126
This. you don't even need a dedicated camera as a hobbyist and even professional. all you need is a newest iphone","attachment":null,"posted":1711458907},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298396,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297438
the reddit group hates fedposters","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711461624333246.png","filename":"fed.png"},"posted":1711461624},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298396
every time I see a soviet era camera I imagine the reeking trans person shooting it and I get sick","attachment":null,"posted":1711461853},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298397
trannys to gulag","attachment":null,"posted":1711461936},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298396
No one likes fedposters","attachment":null,"posted":1711462273},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298074
>>4298087
I liked her nails
Otherwise not too great a picture","attachment":null,"posted":1711466677},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298396
At least have discernment and get a Kiev

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>>4298399
>>4298563

WHY YOU NEED CAMERA OF IMPERIALIST JAPAN WITH AUTOMATIC FOCUSING WHEEL??? YOU DON'T NEED PICTURE STILL HOLDING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE BUILT IN CAMERA BECAUSE OF HOW BIG IT IS LIKE FAT AMERICAN WITH MANY GUNS WHEN ONLY TOKAREV OF GREAT RED ARMY IS NECESSARY

WHAT HAPPEN TO JAP KNEE CON CAMERA WHEN POWER GO OUT??? WHY LOAD CAMERA WITH MANY USELESS FEATURE TO IMPRESS DUMB AMERICAN TOURIST???? YOU DON'T NEED CAPITALIST CAMERA OF MYSPACE RETARD GIRL

WHY YOU NEED NAZI LEICA CAMERA WHICH COST MORE THAN AVERAGE SOVIET HOUSEWIFE?

THIS CAMERA TAKE SAME PICTURE AND DOES NOT NEED ANY OF THOSE THINGS, IS ALSO MADE IN UKRAINE WITH PRIDE OF SOVIET RED ARMY AND GIVEN TO COMMISARS AND MILITARY OFFICERS WHO STARED DOWN FASCIST BASTARDS IN HARSH WINTER WITH NO FEAR OF DEATH AND DEFEND GLORIOUS MOTHERLAND. CAN ALSO CONCEAL CAMERA IN COAT OF POCKET FOR EASY TRANSPORT WHILE CARRY KALASHNIKOV AUTOMATIC RIFLE

FED NKVD IS MADE OF BRASS AND ALUMINUM METAL UNLIKE NIKON JAP CAMERA MADE OF SHITTY PLASTIC THAT ONLY LAST FEW YEARS AND HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE

FED CAMERA NAMED FOR IRON FELIX DZHERZINSKY WHO FIGHT ALONGSIDE LENIN IN RUSSIAN REVOLUTION AND KILL MANY WHITE ARMY PARTISANS, WHAT IS NIKON CAMERA NAMED FOR?????

YOU DONT NEED PLASTIC CAMERA MADE FOR DUMB ASS AMERICAN GIRL, GO AND TAKE PICTURES LIKE GREAT SOVIET MAN

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GET OUT OF MY THREAD COMMIE
WE POST BRICK HERE LIKE TRUE FREEDOM-LOVING PATRIOTS
THAT IS THE TRUE CAMERA OF THE PEOPLE","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711511172410549.jpg","filename":"26653-ts.jpg"},"posted":1711511172},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298597
Unironically decent little snapshitter if you ever get one CLAd. Had one back in high school, nice vintage looking lens , surprised YouTube film faggots haven’t gotten all over it. It even has a wide and a tele as well.","attachment":null,"posted":1711511898},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298642,"name":"CAXAP","msg":">>4298597

HAHA LIKE TYPICAL AMERICAN IS ALSO TOO FAT. CAN YOU PLACE IN COAT POCKET FOR EASE OF CARRYING M16??? BRICK CAMERA CALLED BRICK FOR REASON CAPITALIST PIG

ALSO BRICK CAMERA NEVER SEND TO SPACE, LENINGRAD OF KMZ WAS SEND UP ON SOYUZ ROCKET WHILE DUMB AMERICAN STILL FIGURING OUT REDSTONE AND NO-GO NAVAJO WHICH DOES NOT WORK LIKE CAPITALISM","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711533330085915.jpg","filename":"329503040_644867260733838_184857843427451145_n.jpg"},"posted":1711533330},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298643,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4298598

I believe Steinheil Munchen made a couple lenses for them too. They are grossly underrated because they are American","attachment":null,"posted":1711533418},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4298934,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298598
Unironically my favorite rangefinder is pic related
>Solid aluminum build
>Surprisingly nice coated tessar-design lens, probably one of the best domestic lenses on a consumer camera
>Built to be serviced by a trained bonobo with nothing but a flathead screwdriver (read: US Infantrymen)
>rangefinder patch is massive
>oversized controls designed for use with heavy winter gloves
>genuinely tiny, less wide than a Pentax ME but slightly taller
>shutter speeds suck but I'll live
>$30 used
Currently in the process of putting a roll of Fujigold 200 through it. Makes me wonder what other fixed lens rangefinders I should consider. Maybe a Graphic 35 or Lynx 14.

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I have one of these, outstanding camera. The Lynx 14 is another good one and has a very good lens on it, so good people are buying them to remove the lens and adapt it to mirrorless.

The Retina III is another good one to come from this era, though technically interchangeable only the front element is removable, like on the Zeiss Contaflex","attachment":null,"posted":1711638390},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300487,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297543
Are you the "Pls no bully" /fa/ggot in the EDC Threads ?","attachment":null,"posted":1712061527},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298078
It doesn't look like AI. It looks perfect. This is called the Leica glow. Leica lenses are some of the finest quality lenses in the world with coma, chromatic aberration, etc reduced to a minimum.
That's why photos taken on Leicas don't look like photos, but rather like something more.","attachment":null,"posted":1712139046},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300809
it looks like AI fur anon","attachment":null,"posted":1712139155},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300810
I can't tell you why you think that. I'm not a cognitive psychologist. I can only guess that you're just not used to seeing true quality, and that AI, since it looks at millions of photos, ends up averaging out the distortions that inferior lenses cause in their photos.","attachment":null,"posted":1712140229},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300822,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300809
>It doesn't look like AI. It looks perfect.
Some aggressive colour grade was applied, and it shows (on the background car).","attachment":null,"posted":1712143231},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300840,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300809
Its aggressively edited and ai enhanced

>le leica glow
Thats actually most M mount lenses being soft as fuck with a persistent sharpness falloff towards the edges giving you bokeh at every aperture. Leica lenses are poorly made compared to canon eos stuff from any year so when they finish shilling Ms “leica glow depth rendered microcontrasting nanocolors” they call canikon sterile and clinical","attachment":null,"posted":1712151069},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300841,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300840
Why do Canon/Nikon/Fuji fags always attack Lecia?

It's NEVER the other way around.","attachment":null,"posted":1712151377},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300841
>its never the other way
lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1712152332},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300876,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298078
desaturating blues and greens and pushing oranges for that cinematic effect™","attachment":null,"posted":1712160117},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300841
same reason why snoy cucks can't stop shitting m43 threads","attachment":null,"posted":1712162555},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300922,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"i recently became a leicafag
ask away","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712171023212104.jpg","filename":"lica.jpg"},"posted":1712171023},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300924,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"heres an assortment of photos i snapped today

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>the subject isn't even in focus

Leica-fags will tell you no autofocus is a good thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1712172525},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300944,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300943
what's leicafag's excuse for the Q series","attachment":null,"posted":1712172711},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300949,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4300943
Nah autofocus is nice :)","attachment":null,"posted":1712173889},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300982,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"lecafags rise up!!

>>4298087
i don't mind the framing except that there's a lot of dead space behind her head. so it should probably be angled more to the left or vertical frame. i do think shooter should have waited a single second for those distracting headlights to pass","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712183192088783.jpg","filename":"DSI_5217.jpg"},"posted":1712183192},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4300983,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300841
fake and gay
>>4300930
what kind of jam jar smudgy glass is this?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712183395070413.jpg","filename":"DSI_5106.jpg"},"posted":1712183395},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301002,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4300983
The one i had with me :)","attachment":null,"posted":1712187241},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301185,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"Oh man, after snapshitting a rainy afternoon i totally get the lica hype, its all about the viewfinder.

None of my pics are good but i'll post em later when i get home","attachment":null,"posted":1712243611},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301233,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4301185
>tfw thread dies the moment i post in it

captcha: 2ASSMD

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Not a Leica nerd, but I don't think it's necessarily a consumerist thing desu. Most of the serious Leica users I've met usually only have 1/2 lenses and about as many camera bodies. Idk if many users of cameras from the Big 3 can make the same claim.","attachment":null,"posted":1712275362},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301283,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"*tips beanie

>>4301280
idk what consumerist even means with respect to camera gear
>>4301002
that's cool","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712277430814364.jpg","filename":"DSI_5341.jpg"},"posted":1712277430},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301638,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297440
>and endorsement of alcohol
muslims will not feel the warmth of heaven","attachment":null,"posted":1712402101},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301669,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297744
love the skopar. love the m-4.","attachment":null,"posted":1712412494},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301280
>Leica users are too broke to buy anything beyond 1-2 bodies and ~2 lenses (total cost: $13-23k)
>meanwhile jap camera chads can buy a lifetime of gear and never look at dpreview again for the cost of one single crappy f2 nifty fifty lense
How do you measure consumerism? Money spent for value gained, or clutter? I guess it depends on if you care because of the way it impacts peoples lives, or if you care because of how it impacts organizing a minimalist "battlestation" and cramming it all into an "EDC bag".","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712413282148548.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1712413282},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Here's my (digital) Leica M11 next to my (film) Leica MA.

Leica is literally the only company that will sell you digital or film, in the same body, and you can just swap the lenses between both without issue. All brand new. In box. With warranty.

I don't think anyone disagrees that Leica is expensive... but it's expensive because they're the only company that offers a camera system like this. If FujiFilm or Nikon wanted to come out with a system that lets me swap between film and digital, all in the same body with the same mount, then by all means.

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Wammo, poorfag special for less than a summicron

>>4301676
Until relatively recently, Nikon supported film and digital systems simultaneously, and easily could again, but even leica only did a limited run of their film camera for a reason. The market is flooded with 100 years worth of film cameras. Companies have to compete with themselves.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712413723834521.jpg","filename":"Untitled.jpg"},"posted":1712413723},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301677
>35mm f/1.4 Canon Tamron.

Can I put this on a Canon film camera from 1985?","attachment":null,"posted":1712414031},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301669
Love the skopar, been using mine for nearly 12 years, somehow outlasted every other body/lens I've gone through in that time","attachment":null,"posted":1712414070},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301680,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301678
I really doubt the VC would work. The tamrons are overpriced too, they're just the first thing I saw on ebay and recognized as decently sharp wide open night lenses (also huge)","attachment":null,"posted":1712414171},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301676
so can we see some photos you've taken with them?","attachment":null,"posted":1712414192},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301678
first party lenses work 100% all the way back to the eos 650

third party? crapshoot.","attachment":null,"posted":1712414303},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301678
no, they are EOS/EF mount, which started in 1987
if your canon is 1985, it's fd mount","attachment":null,"posted":1712414304},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301787,"name":"CAXAP","msg":">>4300922

WHY YOU BUY NAZI LEICA THAT COST MORE THAN AVERAGE SOVIET HOUSE WIFE THEN PLACE SHITTY CHINESE LENS ON IT???

THAT IS LIKE DUMB ASS AMERICAN HEE-HAW RED NECK WHO BUY SKS RIFLE OF SOVIET HERITAGE AND PLACE RAIL ON IT FOR SHITTY CHINESE SCOPE AND ATTACHMENTS TRY TO LOOK LIKE TACTICOOL RETARD. RIFLE IS FINE!! LEICA IS FINE!!!

BUY LEICA LENS AND PUT ON SOVIET CAMERA. A FINE ZORKI OR FED IS OK. LENINGRAD OKAY TOO WITH 4 SCREW MOUNTS ON FRONT PLATE INSTEAD OF TWO. LENS IS WHAT TAKEING PICTURE NOT CAMERA. EVEN BETTER PUT LEICA COLLAPSIBLE SUMMICRON ON NKVD FED MODIFY FOR 28.8MM STANDARD. CAN ALSO FIT IN COAT POCKET FOR EASE OF TRANSPORT AMERICAN AR15 ARMALITE RIFLE.

IF BUY LEICA CAMERA USE LEICA LENS OTHERWISE YOU ARE AMERICAN HIPSTER WHO RELY ON NAME TO BE COOL. THAT IS LIKE BASTARD NAZI ARMY WHO DECIDE TO TAKE STALINGRAD FOR NAME WHEN SHOULD HAVE GONE SOUTH TO MOLDOVA FOR RICH OIL FIELDS AND ACTUAL OBJECTIVE, THEN LOSE WAR TO COLLECTIVIST FARMERS WITH OUTDATED RIFLE.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712435456378430.jpg","filename":"il_570xN.469683077_2fg0.jpg"},"posted":1712435456},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301794,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4301787
cus digidal ranjefinder c:

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Went way smoother than expected. Only troublesome part was the reception dancing (doing no flash f1.2-f1.7), really dark & tons of movement, made it difficult to reliably focus with the RF patch.","attachment":null,"posted":1712436473},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301799,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"

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picrel, selfie included

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>I bought a $8000 camera to take a photo of a urinal.","attachment":null,"posted":1712439456},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301812,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301810
Hell yeah dude! Urinals are the thing I take pictures of, and it's the only camera that can capture them so beautifully, that is why I bought it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712439843},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301814,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4301810

>Checks ebay
>two for under 2000

Wait, these things got cheap, shit even I can buy one now, damn. They are almost M3 prices.","attachment":null,"posted":1712440202},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301815,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4301814
Digileicas got cheap after covid, I got my M8 for 1300 dollars","attachment":null,"posted":1712440378},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301814
Might be the rusty sensors","attachment":null,"posted":1712441154},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301817,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4301815

Might be worth it to pick up an M9 and an LTM adapter for my Russian glass","attachment":null,"posted":1712441344},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301818,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4301817
I went M8 just to avoid the sensor rot, considering its still an extremely lavish purchase. The 1.33 crop factor rly isnt that big a deal
Just my two cents","attachment":null,"posted":1712441823},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301819,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4301818

That's not too bad, just means all the shitty corners on Russian lenses won't be visible","attachment":null,"posted":1712442453},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301820,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301818
>1.33
So it turns your Ricoh gr into an x100? Eww.","attachment":null,"posted":1712442638},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301955,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301679
i swapped mine for a pre-asph summilux but im mostly shooting these at f/8 so the skopar is probably better. smaller, better aperture ring, more dampened focusing ring, better contrast and sun stars

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>the sensor rot
you can see the version of the sensor from the debug menu. if you get a good version you are supposedly immune to the sensor issue. i absolutely loved my m9 and sometimes regret upgrading to the m10","attachment":null,"posted":1712478771},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301977,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4301820
No it turns your shitty leica snapshits into locked in pro tier Leica™ snapshots of timeless proportions. :A)

>>4301956
Huh, first time ive heard about that. Granted you gotta actually inspect the camera in person or get real intimate with the seller to make sure that's the case.","attachment":null,"posted":1712484758},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301992,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301977
>Huh, first time ive heard about that. Granted you gotta actually inspect the camera in person or get real intimate with the seller to make sure that's the case.
yeah you can look it up. if the seller doens't know the cheat code you can guide them through it. sellers of leicas will either know about this, or will follow your directions. or they are retarded.

often the title of the sale will include the ID of the sensor in it. if i remember correctly CCID 8 or above and you are fine. the monochrom will have different IDs but the principal is the same.

you can also get the serial number from them and email leica to ask about its maintenance history, which i also recommend.","attachment":null,"posted":1712486803},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4301994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301977
>>4301992
the debug menu of the M9 will also show you the shutter count, which is cool. that basically goes away in the m10","attachment":null,"posted":1712487060},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301992
On the M9 you want CCID 15. CCID 8 was when they were first replacing the bad sensors with more of the same bad sensors before they had a long term fix in place. CCID 15 is the corrosion-proof sensor.


Re: all the Leica hate please tell me where else I can get a full-frame CCD rangefinder that lets me shoot every M and LTM lens ever made?","attachment":null,"posted":1713099661},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304181,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304166
voightlander is making some incredible fuji lesnes now","attachment":null,"posted":1713102358},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304183,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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Fuji x mount is a crop sensor cmos system you turkey","attachment":null,"posted":1713187235},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301977
No you really don’t. Just email Leica customer service with the serial number and they will let you know if they have replaced the sensor with a good one, usually within 12 hours. I asked them about 3 body serials while I was shopping for an m9.","attachment":null,"posted":1713187395},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304496,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297473
You can’t just say “nuh uh” and be taken seriously, especially when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Longer flange distance means bigger lens. If you want to clear the mirror and use a wide angle lens at the same time you’re looking at an inverted telephoto design which is just big especially if you want fast apo.

Compare m-mount ecosystem to micro 4/3 and the trend continues. Absolutely tiny lenses - partly because of sensor size but a big part is indeed the minuscule flange distance of the m43 spec.

Anyway you people act like Leica users only own Leica rangefinders… the reality is that each camera type fills a role so my Nikon + Canon SLRs get used for some things, my hasselblad medium format SLRs and Japanese 645 rf cameras get used for others, and my Leica rf gets carried daily. Nobody is forcing you to buy and use a Leica, nobody cares about your opinion, nobody even knows you exist we just out here havin fun makin snapshits","attachment":null,"posted":1713189085},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304504,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304489
who cares faggot nobody buys a camera for the stupid sensor","attachment":null,"posted":1713191339},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304506,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304504
Sensor (and whatever force processing comes with it)+lens mount is all that matters. Everything else is a fun gimmick.
>I want a low resolution CCD bayer or monochrome rangefinder
>UH BUY 40MP XTRANNY YOU CAN PUT SOME VOIGTLANDERS ON IT","attachment":null,"posted":1713191498},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304506
what is so great about CCD?","attachment":null,"posted":1713192533},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304516
what is so great about CMOS?","attachment":null,"posted":1713193151},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304518
nothing in particular but there are more options for it now as that is what camera makers are making since 2009","attachment":null,"posted":1713193243},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304524,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304516
Whats so great about xtranny? Nothing. Shit colors. Blurry detail. Noise looks like worms. Only got worse with PDAF. Bad design.
What's so great about a bayer CCD? Super sharp, great colors, especially with big pixels. Global shutter. Noise doesn't look like shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1713195166},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297464
could you sound any more defensive?
what's the matter, got called out?","attachment":null,"posted":1713195787},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304544,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304524
no trolling allowed outside /b/","attachment":null,"posted":1713196500},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304544
Facts are trolling? If xtranny didnt lower resolution, wreck colors, and create worms they'd use it on their $8000 professional GFX cameras not just the chinese plastic larp scameras for "prosoomer" hobbyists who are mostly doom spending single men in the same demographic as people that live in trailers but have high end gaming PCs.

0 reason to buy a fuji when it's the same build quality as sony with half the autofocus and 2/3s the image quality. If you think it ever looked like film, it doesn't, a leica CCD looks 10000x more like film. It's so far apart you really need to get a job and shoot at least one roll of film through a camera with a good lens (leica) so you can see the difference.","attachment":null,"posted":1713196828},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304554,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304548
i own both an m9 and a fuji. the workflow is similar and i can't tell the images apart. why haven't you bought one yet?","attachment":null,"posted":1713197326},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304555,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304554
Why haven't you?","attachment":null,"posted":1713197526},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304556,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304555
i did, you goddamn idiot","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713197673061456.png","filename":"1687360483617144.png"},"posted":1713197673},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304557,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304548
can we see some of the photos you take?","attachment":null,"posted":1713197839},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304558,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304556
>no photos from m9
Lol

>>4304557
Not when fujislugs are involved.","attachment":null,"posted":1713197870},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304558
>nophoto with FDS","attachment":null,"posted":1713198273},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How do these arguments even happen?
>I have THE GEAR and its good listen to me!
You can instantly win this argument by posting a photo from "the gear", just one. Otherwise the joy of reflex might just be made up.

Maybe gearfags are just commonly trolled because everyone knows they don't take photos or own cameras","attachment":null,"posted":1713198512},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304568,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304563
I just like the additional context to the opinion it provides. Posting bad pictures doesn't invalidate the opinion presented, but posting good ones certainly can help add merit. Photos really help me see where the perspective is coming from and try to be more sympathetic.
No photo just makes it feel meaningless.","attachment":null,"posted":1713199102},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Best Leica Camera

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>FDS
fetal drug syndrome?","attachment":null,"posted":1713256806},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304778
fuji derangement syndrome","attachment":null,"posted":1713273843},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304814,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304805
Sounds like something a neo nazi made up to portray criticism of their favorite fat racist russo-israeli puppet as insanity, adapted to cameras. If thats where fujislugs get their memes i have no respect for them.","attachment":null,"posted":1713275717},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304818,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304814
FDS is contagious it seems","attachment":null,"posted":1713276191},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304825,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304814
Yeah * derangement syndrome originates from situations like this, where sensible criticism of zion don is called "trump derangement syndrome"
>Trump denies climate change, rolls back environmental protections
>So trump is complicit in this extreme weather situation, since he is actively working against efforts to fix it?
>NO CUZ CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT REEL. EARTH IS FLAT. JESUS CONTROLS CLIMATE. U HAS TDS. THANK U KOCH BROTHERS MORE OIL PLS
If "FDS" is derived from "TDS" we can safely assume fujislugs are such retards or hang out with them. Fuji: the official brand of vladimir putin.","attachment":null,"posted":1713277376},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304833,"name":"Sage","msg":">>4304814
>>4304825
>its 2024 and xhey somehow are still desperately clinging to le orange man bad
Jesus Christ man everyone else has moved on lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1713279659},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304834,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304833
Moved on to Ridin' with Biden. Yeehaw!","attachment":null,"posted":1713279796},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4304858,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4301681
>leica owner
>taking pics for more than a few weeks until the novelty wears off and then they blow another $10k on a newer hobby","attachment":null,"posted":1713285605},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305213,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"which is the best digital rangefinder for my budget of $600","attachment":null,"posted":1713362856},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305215,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304805
>own a fuji x-pro
>buy a leica m9
>travel with two camera bodies, a fuji x-pro and an m9
>same equivalent focal length glued to both
>zone focusing and manual settings and flash, mostly

same workflow, same images. m9 has an extremely satisfying *ker-klunk, whiiiiiir* and i like using it more.

but they're the same.","attachment":null,"posted":1713363073},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305217,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"technically the fuji is a lot better than the leica, but the body isn't made of brass and it doesn't have a bad ass shutter sound.","attachment":null,"posted":1713363201},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305220,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305217
Fuji is technically worse due to having a smaller sensor and inferior color filter array
https://medium.com/@nevermindhim/x-trans-vs-bayer-fantastic-claims-and-how-to-test-them-475b4f1b7fae
The users believe the soft images with practically destroyed colors are "film like" because expired drug store film scanned by a retard is also soft with practically destroyed colors.

Fujinon lenses are inferior as well. No one is clamoring to adapt them to other mounts, they'd rather just use leica M lenses.","attachment":null,"posted":1713364601},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305220
its a sad look when you have to cite a 7 year old article, from a random nobody, that is 100% theoretical and uses 0 actual Fuji images, where the author even concludes
>An AA-filterless Bayer sensor and an X-Trans sensor of the same resolution are fairly evenly matched
in my own made up hypothetical, fuji is better, so there!","attachment":null,"posted":1713365123},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305226,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4305217
Can't tell if bait or fujislug cope","attachment":null,"posted":1713365170},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305224
Xtrans has only lost photosites in those seven years. It can only have gotten worse.
>0 actual fuji images
Actually non fuji demosaicing algorithms are even better than the jpeg pipeline, if he shot jpegs with two cameras fuji would have done even worse","attachment":null,"posted":1713365416},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305228
and in 7 years time, you still don't have a better go-to article / post / comparison than something that doesn't even use fuji images
interesting you specify it's worse for jpg, and not just simply worse for raw too","attachment":null,"posted":1713366521},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I think the market share and general userbase of fuji vs leica speaks for itself and settles the fuji-leica war.

One is for instagram
The other is for the museum of modern art

One is for the 1% of consumerist fools
The other is for the 1% of bored richfags, AKA real artists

Fuji has scam technology that doesnt improve anything and makes red/blue textures render worse (xtrans)
Leica has non-scam technology that improves even sensor illumination to make it perform better with lenses designed for film (steep light rays hitting the edges of conventional sensors scatter due to digitals thick cover glass, which film lacks, leica has specially curved microlenses to gather more of this recently lost light)

Fuji is mostly just aping Nikon's film era designs, and possibly aping Nikon period, since Nikon was the OG in running retro cameras for way too long, but overall they pull inspiration from everyone but themselves. Fuji(ca) has never made an original or revolutionary camera body.
Leica has been making their own designs forever and never copying anyone else. Everyone else copies them. Even Nikon copied them. Even Canon copied them. They are the original, like Fender and Ferrari.

Fuji "simulates" film, which is impossible on digital, recognizing that their users have no interest in film and just want something superficially retro to throw on top of their 40fps with snoy AF digital snapshits
Leica still makes a brand new film camera you can buy today, recognizing that their users have an eye for the unique painterly appearance and soulful experience of film photography","attachment":null,"posted":1713372838},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305289,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305285
can we see some of your images?","attachment":null,"posted":1713374131},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305291,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305285
This is the truth. Most fuji users are pretenders at best… have you seen /fag/, when they post photos instead of lens tests? Literal snapshots of sidewalks. It’s almost like using the brand comes with a style, developed by watching shitty pseud camera reviews on youtube kind of like the nikon tendency towards UWA HDR landscapes and birds. There is more photographic integrity in dog pics and tourism photography.

Fuji is simply not a serious camera brand and it does not appeal to serious photographers. They are closer to a toy brand. And leica is a jewelry brand for richer posers. Most magnum photographers i know the kit of adapt leica’s lenses to sony/canon bodies.

>>4305289
Can we see some of YOUR images?","attachment":null,"posted":1713374730},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305293,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4305291
Man you're really sure of yourself.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713378070205687.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240417_201947_893.jpg"},"posted":1713378070},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305291
sure, to get you started >>4301808, >>4298865, >>4303209, ive posted a few hundred over the last few years, lots of collages too
some are leica, some are fuji, some are nikon
now you, and thank you for posting as I'm sure you will, it helps add context to the perspective","attachment":null,"posted":1713381714},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305307,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305303
On the /p/ ranking you’re near huskyfag and hairy negatives desu sorry. Same gearfag that was doing ai upscale tests to argue about four thirds?

Can isi or someone please demonstrate what photography is really about?","attachment":null,"posted":1713382368},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why would you ever want a manual focus camera? Shit is fucking dogshit. "oh, another ruined street shot, I guess if I shoot at f18 I could get it in focus, maybe"","attachment":null,"posted":1713383583},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305307
okay nophoto","attachment":null,"posted":1713383630},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305314,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305307
>Can isi or someone please demonstrate what photography is really about?
Why can't you?","attachment":null,"posted":1713384270},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305343,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4305291
>magnum photographers
That's an oxymoron, most of what gets published by Magnum isn't even photography but upsold snapshits.","attachment":null,"posted":1713397015},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305992,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305220
>smaller sensor and inferior color filter array
just take the photo","attachment":null,"posted":1713612897},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4305993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305220
>Fujinon lenses are inferior
this really depends on which lens and at what aperture and whether or not you're just looking for clinical sharpness and contrast. my favorite leica lenses are old, the 35mm v2 summilux, the 50mm summarit f/1.4... but they are far from clinically perfect","attachment":null,"posted":1713613036},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306024,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is it worth trying out the digital M's for the first time with an M 240?","attachment":null,"posted":1713627294},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305993
if you want imperfect optics just buy a dslr, then you also get a real ovf","attachment":null,"posted":1713629981},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306024
Absolutely that’s a great camera. Just a little chonky. I’d try to stretch for an M10 for a better experience.","attachment":null,"posted":1713630751},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306044,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305993
Have you seen the Light Lens Lab 8 element 35 summicron? I have the 50 Elcan reproduction they made, it’s exquisite. This is it on the Z6.

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nice m43 photo lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1713631405},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306044
>tfw learned to recognize capture one fake grain","attachment":null,"posted":1713635238},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297439
>>4297441
>>4297442
>>4297443
>>4297446
if it wasnt for leicas nice rendering lenses, these images would look like shit.
leicas god tier lenses are carrying the full weight of 99% of these images on their backs.

imagine seeing these shots taken with a sigma or tamron or some other cheapo garbage lens, where there is no contrast, washed out colors, obliterated highlight/shadow balance, etc., etc...

pure dogshit... its like giving a rich daddys boy one of those new 2024 ferraries that basically does the driving for you and then the spoilt, snobbish rat makes a TOP20 lap time around the track and brags how hes a pro driver now... like, no bitch, youre driving a ferrarri that does 0-100 in 2.4 seconds and does all the driving for you and youre racing against people in hondas, hyundais and bmws","attachment":null,"posted":1713640502},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306102,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306070
newest version of capture one has the realistic grain option thats based off popular, old film cameras and its a 100% copy of the grain pattern. not even a computer program can recognize the difference.","attachment":null,"posted":1713640724},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306103,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297568
Wow so you borrowed dad's camera to post big whoop","attachment":null,"posted":1713640771},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306105,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306102
Where?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713641403320351.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1713641403},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306106,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305993
arri scientists said that if you laser finish and polish glass elements with main focus on sharpness and CA control, you get clearer glass and better sharpness and CA control but start to drastically lose contrast. they said it took them decades to figure out a technique where they can push out maximum sharpness out of a lens, without losing on contrast and that they had to make custom made machinery to achieve that.

aside from nikon, canon and voigtlander (and some sony glass and shitty old lenses) theres literally no one that would be considered competition to them in the current market when it comes to contrast retention. sigma, tamron and samyang are still copying old zeiss glass designs 1to1 and dont have the budget to buy expensive machinery to do what nikon, canon, sony and voigtlander are doing, so they just push for sharpness, sharpness and only sharpness....... laowa, 7artisans and others in the same bunch are stuck in early 2000's, copying either each others terrible glass designs or trying to copy sigma, tamron or samyang (who are copying old zeiss designs) and just keep failing miserably....... mitakon (and fuji) have like 5 good lenses that accidentally turned out to be on the level of nikon, canon, zeiss, leica...etc. and their budgest are dropping lower and lower each year. (although, mitakon just had some huge investment waves in 2021 from random chinese investors and all lenses they made since were god tier so we will see what happens next...)

and thats about it... we need a new lens manufacturer, because sigma, tamron, samyang and the rest are simply not it...
and voigtlander and mitakon make mainly manual focus lenses..

i hate ''gearfagging'' about lenses but ive been stuck doing portraits and weddings with my 3 zeiss otus lenses for 10 years and my 2 nikkor lenses for 16 years now..... they look run down more than a prostitutes vagina and im getting bored being forced to shoot with the same 5 lenses for ALMOST TWO DECADES NOW","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713642535468825.jpg","filename":"hands.jpg"},"posted":1713642535},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306107,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"the sublimity of luxury goods. logos are magical runes that infuse materials with a special irreplicable quality.","attachment":null,"posted":1713642882},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306120,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306106
>Leica
>Competition
Their lenses are objectively mediocre, in nearly every way, and there is not one quantifiable metric you can come up with to "spot the leica". Even the color transmission is so inconsistent as to be brandless.

A lens is good, or it is not, after copy variation. Brandfagging lenses is a waste of time other than the fact that fujinon lenses seem to have a habit of breaking. I used to shop around for fuji gear before going mirrorless and fuji was up there among the ones most likely to yield half a page of parts only listings, something more typical of gear from the 90s.","attachment":null,"posted":1713647067},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306044
yea that's a pretty good value i think. iq 9000 /p/ post","attachment":null,"posted":1713704651},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306107
People have been fooled by my fake rolex daytona for 3 years now ahahahahaha

China making feicas when? They must know how. They make snoys and probably make most of leica’s parts.","attachment":null,"posted":1713711372},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306322,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306120
>leica lenses are mediocre
leica, voigt, nikon and zeiss are the only 4 manufacturers who CONSISTENTLY made god tier lenses from 1930's til today
(besides MF manufactures and cine shit)","attachment":null,"posted":1713723094},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4306323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306322
All 4 of these consistently released horribly bad lenses as well but if you're a fanboy it's a soulful lens and if you're not a fanboy it's a bad one with a brandfag markup","attachment":null,"posted":1713723249},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4308098,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"oouugh fuuuuuckkkkk...

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i need to get a summifucks just so i can smear vaseline on the front and take 80's style snapshits with it
bet that'll pull some chains","attachment":null,"posted":1714248511},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4308731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297438

The images from the Leica sub might be bad, but still better than 99% of the images posted here.

It doesn‘t matter what camera you use. If there was a cheap APSC or MFT camera that offered the same shooting experience as Leica, I would buy those instead. After years of Sony plastic and using a X-Pro 2 I tried a friends M240, the experience immediately sold me on Leica.

Photography should be fun. Who cares what gear you are using or what anyone else thinks? Yes, the sub is cringe and pretentious, but so is /p/. I have never seen a good image posted here, but that‘s just my opinion, and you should 100% ignore it and just enjoy photography.","attachment":null,"posted":1714434263},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4308784,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I thought like this until I bought a Leica and realized that yeah, belonging to a hundred-year-long lineage of photographers and their equipment might legitimize some of the work I do. That's the real use of Leica: vetting. If you have a Leica, you're automatically "in".","attachment":null,"posted":1714446170},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309185,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">99% of the posts are showing off someone's purchase
that's all of reddit, site is plastered with desperate attention whores.","attachment":null,"posted":1714543081},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309287,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308731
>>4309185
>>4297438
i have not observed a single subreddit or discord or online community where interesting photographers (with any type of camera) are posting content. the photos are usually of nothing, taking little or no risk, and do nothing in particular. its mostly hobbyists trying to learn their cameras, i guess. it's very boring. im only interested in a few instagrams that i follow.

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You could apply the same logic to buying a nikon, but then you're associating with actual good photojournalists, not the shitty photographer equivalent to a beatnik "poet" that just so happened to be jewish and live in close proximity to new york or hollywood.","attachment":null,"posted":1714579770},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309296
you are not associating with anyone by using a camera brand, faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1714622012},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309485,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309287
anyone here use this lens? i like how it looks but i'm a bit concerned about the min focus distance. is there a click or any sort of tactile indication that you've gone shorter than 0.7m?","attachment":null,"posted":1714628024},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309486,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300930
Nice horsey

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thought this was the guy above you's picture and got excited and thought "hey he took a good one"","attachment":null,"posted":1714629175},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"There are 4 types of Leicamen

>1. "Affluent but clueless"
Utterly clueless but benign, just bought a leica because it is the most expensive and therefore the best, simple as. Likely uses a 1D to shoot his cat and a Noctilux to shoot action figures.

>2. "I just want a Leica, I JUST want a Leica"
They want a leica just because they want a leica and they will never be happy without a leica. Probably bought an MP/MA on finance or own an M8. Would probably make identical images with a Cosina CT-1.

>3. "It takes the best photos"
Are under the impression that leica cameras simply produce the best photos, end of. Most likely to be a retired dentist. 'Glow', 'Emotion', 'Build quality' etc. Thinks a 12-month CLA turnaround is "reasonable" for german "quality".

>4. "The Collector"
Just collects them like people collect watches. Probably does not even use them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714646251},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309509,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309503
>Thinks a 12-month CLA turnaround is "reasonable" for german "quality"
Of course, that's why every Leicaman needs a second one, as a backup.
You can't rush art.","attachment":null,"posted":1714648201},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309612,"name":"Sugar","msg":"Well, shit.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714682986382485.jpg","filename":"438102062_744617617661802_1706780784908155357_n.jpg"},"posted":1714682986},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309503
>Cosina CT-1.
hey those are pretty nice for what they are","attachment":null,"posted":1714683108},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309687,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309503
>They want a leica just because they want a leica and they will never be happy without a leica.
No one else makes a camera that fits the bill.
>Compact
>Full frame
>Still compact after attaching non-shit lenses
>Not a snoy","attachment":null,"posted":1714710990},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309485
0.7m is fine for taking a headshot. this is how i am using the 28mm elmarit

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incredible camera/lens combination.","attachment":null,"posted":1714729273},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309485
i think the type 1 version looks way cooler and has a minimum focusing distance of 0.7m

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>f11
>28mm

Your photos will be LITERALLY indistinguishable from iPhone shots.","attachment":null,"posted":1714730654},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309729,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309728
not my problem

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it is neato but i don't like the big flange. and if i wanted that design, i'd most likely go with the cheaper ttartisan version.
>>4309721
i'm mostly worried about how it'll go shorter than the range of my rangefinder and shorter than other lenses when snapping to min focus distance by feel","attachment":null,"posted":1714771222},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309854,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309728

by f11 the difraction glow on highlights will mog any iphone shot","attachment":null,"posted":1714771715},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309865,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309729
based "i'm just gonna shoooot" man.","attachment":null,"posted":1714776023},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309871,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4309724

I take back everything I said about Leicafags.

I get it now. After servicing the Summitar, yeah, I get it. Shits dope.","attachment":null,"posted":1714778304},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309878,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309854
is it true, diffusion filter salesmen have been scamming us for what we can get by just setting the camera to f11?","attachment":null,"posted":1714779559},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309977,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297518
>>4297543
are you rich from photography or did you start out rich? nice camera either way but i am curious","attachment":null,"posted":1714799924},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309979,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309977
>rich
m8o
everything you see in that photo is well within the realm of a line of credit, or a single guy with no kids and a unionized blue collar job (tradies can make $70k a year living in a place where a decent existence costs $40k a year). it's ridiculously attainable. 4chan posters have the most distorted perception of wealth on the internet. It's like everyone here is from the third world or eastern europe.

Although photography is an "expensive hobby", at the peak it's still cheaper motorcycles, cars, boats, guns, watch collecting, etc and for perspective on financial decisions most perfectly normal people with no achievements to warrant it finance $40k+ commuter crossovers when a $9000 2018 does the same thing, often better, without the heated seats as DLC.","attachment":null,"posted":1714800431},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4309981,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309979
>redditors be like
>hard day at the construction site, overtime's worth the money
>time to order $25,000 in camera gear
>yep, everything else i buy this year is going to be a literal funko pop, the budget for figurative ones is all used up
>still covering bills and no debt btw
>also no kids","attachment":null,"posted":1714800629},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310009,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309981
>regular dingus dad salary
>$25,000 in camera gear
>covering bills and no debt
>no kids
sounds like you figured it out","attachment":null,"posted":1714813573},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310024,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4309871
Which part was your revelation? For me it was the actually good viewfinder and razor sharp focus patch.","attachment":null,"posted":1714824356},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"All you fags with $3,500 A7R bodies and $2,500 G-master lenses could have had a used Leica M/SL2 body and a Summicron but instead prefer to think you’re these budget thrifty hipster gods. I had a used M240 for $2400 and sold it for $2800. And now I shoot a used SL2. Also Voigtlander M lenses are no more expensive than normal mirrorless lenses and often outperform their Leica counterparts, the f2 Ultrons for example. Don’t even get me started on you retards lining up for a CHINESE made X100VI for $1,700.","attachment":null,"posted":1714829841},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310045,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297515
What bodies do you own now and how much did you pay? M240 bodies are not expensive at all compared to normal mirrorless bodies.","attachment":null,"posted":1714829956},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297761
I sold my 35mm FLE and have regretted it since. But recently got a Voigtlander 35 Ultron and INSTANTLY got that magic back. The 28 ultron is like shooting a Q as well. If people buy the right Voightie lenses they can be amazing but there are a lot of duds out there.","attachment":null,"posted":1714830401},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310055,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297758
Find a used M240 for $2,200. Immediately buy a used v2 Voigtlander Ultron f2 for $500. If you want a cheap 50mm then I’m not sure, the Zeiss 50s are good but can be sterile. The Zeiss Sonnar has too much character and the Planar has too little. The M240 has unique colors that the newer rangefinders don’t have. The tint was weird on it so you get blue and purple in the shadows, I loved it when I had it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714830883},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297761
What’s a smaller 50 APO? I already have a hefty summilix but wouldn’t mind getting a smaller Voigtlander to replace it and free up $3,000. I’m open to f2 to save weight. I am completely sold on the Ultrons, obviously since I can’t stop talking about them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714831006},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297771
If someone wanted to have an SL on the cheap they can just get a Panasonic S5ii. The raw files look almost identical, you’re just sacrificing the nice UI simplicity of the SL, but saving weight. And any L mount lenses can just be used on an SL someday and obviously all the M lenses. I use my M lenses on the SL2 and even pop them on my micro four thirds for a lighter weight setup and the new LUMIX Leica Monochrome profile looks great on M43. And even handheld 100mp hi-res shots with Leica glass on M43 works flawlessly. This whole board has never thought outside the Sony mind control.","attachment":null,"posted":1714831235},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300809
I like my Leica glass but you sound like a fag. Something to consider these days is that companies have basically perfected the method of getting extremely sharp and clinical results in any affordable lens. So buying a lens off sharpness tests isn’t as useful these days. They will look very flat, albeit sharp. Sigma does this, and the new Nikon Z cheap primes. Something about the Leica glass does some clinical sharpness but the falloff and background has a more natural and vintage render. Voigtlander and Zeiss pull this off a lot too on some models.","attachment":null,"posted":1714831742},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310066,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300841
Because people that own leicas own other cameras too. I’m not brand loyal at all. I wouldn’t even buy a Leica body if any other company made a rangefinder.","attachment":null,"posted":1714831916},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310067,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300922
Get a different lens.","attachment":null,"posted":1714831948},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310075,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4310067
Not a question and no I quite like this one. Might even pick up a 7artisans 50 1.1 down the line.

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I probably will later, I'm saving for a trip rn so camera purchases are off the table for the foreseeable future.","attachment":null,"posted":1714838009},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310056
I honestly like the 50 nokton f1.5 II as my small 50, thought they'd be updating it to a v3, but they're launching a small 50 f2.2 soon","attachment":null,"posted":1714840330},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310271,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4310024

The optics on the Summilux and the fit and finish, wide open at f/2 it still glows and doesn't get soft like Russian and Japanese lenses do.

I did put my 20/5.6 Russar on it and it's a good lens as well which is why they cost so god damn much for something made by Communism. I think I'll find a cheap Hektor 135 and maybe a Leitz 35 or a 90 and call it a day on this kit. Maybe some Voigtlander lenses, but the Russar is the only Soviet lens that will ever grace it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714865955},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310273,"name":"Sugar","msg":"If you put chink lenses on a fucking Leica neck yourself faggot, the whole purpose of owning a Leica is the Leitz lenses. I could go the rest of my life shooting on this Summitar and never need another lens.","attachment":null,"posted":1714866069},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310275,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4310075

You're a poser faggot for putting chink shit glass on a god damn Leica >>4310075 that shit looks soft as fuck and would probably get pushed in by a Series E 50/1.8.","attachment":null,"posted":1714866179},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310278,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310273
But you can put those lenses on a canikony or a bessa or anything with a short mount big deal","attachment":null,"posted":1714867048},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310281,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Reject Leica. Embrace Epson.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714867444208443.jpg","filename":"images (7).jpg"},"posted":1714867444},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310291,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4310275
whats your problem? ride your own bike","attachment":null,"posted":1714868831},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310281
I would love an updated version of this camera. I love the mechanical shutter. no lcd necessary i just need 24 megapixels because im printing","attachment":null,"posted":1714881858},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309296
I was going to write something about Nikon and Canon as a follow up but I thought people like you would remember the fact that Leica literally started 135 still photography and that Nikon and Canon were inferior copycats for the better part of a century. But I guess I'm a little too charitable, or naive, or whatever.","attachment":null,"posted":1714885301},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310445,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308784
>might legitimize some of the work I do
it won't
>>4309296
>you're associating with actual good photojournalists.
no you're not.
>>4310435
i don't know if this is a troll or not but the nikon f along with the leica m2 basically ended the vietnam war.","attachment":null,"posted":1714888945},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310502,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i am considering the M2 as an alternative to the M6 0.58x, but i use flash, and it looks like you need a pc sync adaptor plus a hotshoe cable that lets you plug in the pc sync. sounds complicated but if its reliable i guess its fine? i am attaching/detaching the flash cable every time i take the camera in or out of my bag.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714912213573529.png","filename":"1714912176668.png"},"posted":1714912213},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310572,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310273
Most of the Leica SL lenses are made in Japan by Sigma and Panasonic. But yeah TT artisans and 7 Artisans usually suck and even if their design is good in some models it’s almost impossible to get a good copy. I had a great 7 Artisans Z mount 35mm f.95 one time though, but any M mount I tried wasn’t very good.","attachment":null,"posted":1714925126},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310573,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310435
>Leica literally started 135 still photography
why do leica homosexuals so blatantly lie to themselves and everyone else?
>picrel, leica was literally german Apple, didn't invent shit, didn't revolutionize anything, but convinced morons that it did, apparently.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714925645019200.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-05 at 11.13.11.png"},"posted":1714925645},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310574,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310573
i don't know what that article is but oscar barnack invented the 35mm camera by designing the first leicas","attachment":null,"posted":1714925915},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310575,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310574
curious that barnack is supposedly credited with "inventing" the 35mm camera in prototype form in 1914, when at the same time, multiple 35mm film cameras were actually for sale in america. Yet more leicasexual delusion and lies.","attachment":null,"posted":1714926240},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310576,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310575
you mean this thing? what","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714926493429596.jpg","filename":"1714926405061.jpg"},"posted":1714926493},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310577,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310576
is it a "135 still photography" camera, yes or no? Don't move the goalposts with your response please.","attachment":null,"posted":1714926578},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"no you're right that looks like a super practical design","attachment":null,"posted":1714926598},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310579,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i bet these were everywhere","attachment":null,"posted":1714926664},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i can't believe leica stole the idea to make a movie film stills camera from these guys and then had the audacity to flip the frame on its side to get a bigger negative without even asking them first i hope they gave royalties","attachment":null,"posted":1714926863},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310583,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm a self-avowed wannabe leicafag. I want a leica S system because it's larger-than-135 and it's still reflex-based.
And, no, I'm not about to buy a fujicope and put a wannabe red-dot on it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714926937},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"someone should call ken rockwell's family","attachment":null,"posted":1714926956},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310585,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310576
even a leicasexual blog admits that the leica wasn't the first 35mm still camera, why won't you faggots? No, "the first popular", "the first commercially successful", "the first that resembles a camera we know" are not the same as "literally started 135 still photography"
https://gmpphoto.blogspot.com/2022/07/pre-leica-35mm-cameras.html
before you ask, no, i'm not mad, but i AM autistic, thanks.","attachment":null,"posted":1714926956},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The 35mm still photography camera was not invented until the first SLR was. Sorry, leicaboys. Photography was actually Russian invention.
>he first 35mm prototype SLR was the "Filmanka" developed in 1931 by A. Min in the Soviet Union. In 1933 A.O. Gelgar developed the "GelVeta" also in the USSR, later renamed Cпopт ("Sport").
And then, germans lied and claimed they developed the SLR (by stealing the russian invention and making more copies because america was giving them free money and debt forgiveness)
Everything prior to the SLR is just cope. Might as well use a dark slide in front of a roll film back and a ground glass if it's going to work like a shitty press camera.

Rangefinders are just yet another awkwardly stuck on viewfinding-thing that doesn't actually do its job well, just like that dumb guestimating crosshair. Might as well have a height-of-a-man scale like they put on combat larp scopes. SLRs allow you to actually focus the lens. I see absolutely no difference between a leica and this >>4310576 besides the rangefinder apparatus being taller and enclosed in the same shell as the body.

SLR = camera
Rangefinder = "camera"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714927213869598.jpg","filename":"311536-1643-chekov.jpg"},"posted":1714927213},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310591,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310585
>not the same as literally started
>but i AM autistic

I bless you my brother, may your struggles be light and kind to you throughout your life. Please go home.","attachment":null,"posted":1714927475},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310592,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"im sure it was basically on in the heads of like 9000 camera makers as soon as film got fast enough to shoot movies with. and the design that won the first wave was the barnack. or did the first genius to take a still photo using a bolex or whatever (I don't know anything about movie cameras) win?","attachment":null,"posted":1714927518},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310586
This just reads like you can't focus quickly with a rangefinder, which is fine, it's not for everyone, but maybe don't be so fucking weird about it next time?","attachment":null,"posted":1714927571},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310586
>Rangefinders are just yet another awkwardly stuck on viewfinding-thing
and it used to be that the rangefinder was separate from the viewfinder, so the photographer had to move his eye around to compose and to focus.
rangefinder focus also precludes the use of tele lenses above 85/90mm due to short base length","attachment":null,"posted":1714927647},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310592
again, the statement made was "literally started 135 still photography" >>4310435
, which is objectively FALSE. popularized it, made it accessible, brought it to the masses, standardized it, changed it, whatever else you want to say, sure, fine. but NOT "literally started".","attachment":null,"posted":1714927720},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310595
you are a strange man","attachment":null,"posted":1714927770},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310597,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310595
Bless you sir.","attachment":null,"posted":1714927780},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310593
You can't focus period with a rangefinder because you're just guessing the distance. Sorry.

35mm cameras were not modern, usable, and well designed until the 35mm SLR, which was a Russian invention.

Barnack invented jewelry. At best.","attachment":null,"posted":1714927986},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310602,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310598
Do you know how rangefinders work?","attachment":null,"posted":1714928208},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310603,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"oscar barnack invented jewelry at best","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714928425420524.jpg","filename":"1714928392316.jpg"},"posted":1714928425},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310602
Yes I have repaired several and sold them to stupid hipsters who think they're faster to focus, when really the only fast part is how sloppy they are with their 28mm f16 street snapshits.

>>4310603
Yeah, he did. Real photography is when you can look through the lens. Everything else is cope. Just look at the state of leica - they're a jewelry company. They don't even attempt to compete. They don't even attempt to pretend they can be used for journalism. They already know every photographer worth caring about would rather look through a lens. Rangefinders are so dumb even most magnum "photographers" have use DSLRs or mirrorless instead of leicas.","attachment":null,"posted":1714928634},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how could they possibly compete with the iphone","attachment":null,"posted":1714928826},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310610,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310606
even iphones give you a view through the lens, but it's a digital one with live editing. enough to replace a lightbulb with the moon, and god knows what else

we should be glad computational photography has not spread through mirrorless beyond very basic, photoshop-tier stuff - except for sony, clear image zoom is AI enhanced images","attachment":null,"posted":1714929888},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"technology is amazing

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Get a Pentax 645Z, the lenses are great and cheap. If you want a Leica get an SL or M.","attachment":null,"posted":1714958657},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310598
You’ve never used a rangefinder.","attachment":null,"posted":1714958696},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4310781,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"journalists use mirrorless cameras with big zoom lenses on them. sounds like fun","attachment":null,"posted":1714962560},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4311129,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm going to be purchasing a Leica M6 at some point this year.
Between the voigtlander 35mm f1.4 nokton and the 35mm f2 ultron which do you Anons recommend?
I wouldn't mind the extra light on the nokton, but pic related is shot wide open on it and honestly looks rather ugly. The lens coma is especially pushing me towards the ultron.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715059189549486.jpg","filename":"ComaSharpWO-1.jpg"},"posted":1715059189},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4311267,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311129
what the fuck is that","attachment":null,"posted":1715089453},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4311428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311129
i have the nokton but i rarely shoot it wide open. pic related was around f2 i think. never tried the ultron, but that seems more your speed if you don't like messy images","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715109195841652.jpg","filename":"HRS_6824.jpg"},"posted":1715109195},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4311584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311428
Shit that actually looks pretty nice. I guess the worst of the flaws in the design disappear when stopped down.
I like somewhat messy images, but the example I posted previously just feels bad, not even interesting.
I have seen quite a lot of nice images with the lens wide open as well however.","attachment":null,"posted":1715144509},{"board":"p","thread":4297438,"pid":4311629,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311584
perhaps, but having to stop down in the dark somewhat negates the advantage of the bigger max aperture. not to mention how hard it would be to hit focus at 1.4 in the dark.
here's another with the nokton >>4304154. don't remember what f stop but i think you just have to watch out for highlights in the corners on this lens. coma like in the street corner pic you posted doesn't bother me however. the nokton (single coated) is my only m lens rn and i chose it specifically because i wanted the flaws and flares.","attachment":null,"posted":1715158746}]} {"title":"Dumping photos","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4289168,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Critique is welcome, though of course I won't necessarily adopt it. I enjoyed snapping these, hope you enjoy looking at it.

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fav itt
there were many others which i liked somewhat but had an issue for me, like focus or framing. for instance, >>4289217 is a nice shot but i feel like the people should have been in focus","attachment":null,"posted":1709236217},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4289337,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4289226
If it weren't for the greens going nuclear I'd think this was film, once again proving micro four thirds is the most filmic format","attachment":null,"posted":1709239731},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4289459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4289325
Thanks. Different vision I suppose. Couldn't have hurt to stop down more.

>>4289337
Thanks, I'm pretty bad with color work lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1709262176},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4289463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Are these all very slightly out of focus or is that just the "m43 look"","attachment":null,"posted":1709262381},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4289467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4289463
Probably me. I de-tune the images by turning down DxO's lens profiles to almost 0. I prefer the look.","attachment":null,"posted":1709263353},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4289954,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You need full frame camera for best image quality","attachment":null,"posted":1709380779},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4290137,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"you have a problem that a lot of amateur photographers seem to run into.

you don't take photographs of things, events, people - you are actually photographing images. you are not photographing as a viewer or a communicator but as 'a photographer', and it shows. these photographs feel to me like you are taking photographs with the objective of taking photographs that look like other photographs that you have already seen - that they are more valid because of this.

sorry, i'm a bit drunk right now but consider what you are trying to say or accomplish with photography. you can totally say "i just find it relaxing or fun" or whatever but then seeking critique is pointless.

maybe try looking again at those photographs that you like and instead of thinking about what the photographs are of, think about what the photographer was trying to say. hope this helps.","attachment":null,"posted":1709417613},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4290202,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4289186
ugh
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fixed

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I'm used to my camera and it still works. There isn't a satisfying alternative yet.

>>4290137
Thanks for the insight.
>you don't take photographs of things, events, people - you are actually photographing images. you are not photographing as a viewer or a communicator but as 'a photographer', and it shows. these photographs feel to me like you are taking photographs with the objective of taking photographs that look like other photographs that you have already seen - that they are more valid because of this.
Funny you mention that; I don't actually look at other people's photography that much, nor do I typically have a strong message to convey. I just take photos that I think have a sense of beauty, whenever I'm about my day.
>you can totally say "i just find it relaxing or fun" or whatever but then seeking critique is pointless.
I do, but it's also interesting to hear other people's perspective and so I appreciate that you've shared your thoughts. Maybe you'd feel that your critique is wasted but then I'd still want to hear it.

>>4290202
Yep, my brother popped his shoulder recently from riding.

>>4290321
I use DxO Photolab to add these frames and I can't avoid the stupid black border; it's already at the minimum size and I'm too lazy to crop every image afterwards.

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no way is mft this grainy at 800 iso","attachment":null,"posted":1709513051},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4290498,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4290492
Ya it isn't. I add grain a lot of the time. Same with >>4290346 shot at base iso.","attachment":null,"posted":1709513874},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4290518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1709518307944037.jpg","filename":"IMG_0257.jpg"},"posted":1709518307},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4290519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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>>4290321
I kind of like it if more of the ground was cropped

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>>4290519
>>4290520
Nice shots. Very kino

>>4290595
Thanks for the input

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Yes I know I missed focus, I was trying to take my friend but missed her completely and ended up with this lol. Still think it looks alright from far.","attachment":null,"posted":1710152028},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4294182,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4293216
I'm wondering how this one would have looked like through a polarizing filter. The fore- and middleground basically consist of reflection.","attachment":null,"posted":1710352092},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4295599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4294182
Yeah I don't have one in this size unfortunately.

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Thanks for sharing

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Thanks for sharing

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Was this shot with a polarized filter?

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do you know what that plant is called?","attachment":null,"posted":1712850595},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4306540,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303420
No clue I'm afraid.

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>GFX100 is now within /p/'s budget
>the quality is this unimpressive
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What a weird comment, given the available information

>>4307142
Thanks

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Nice bike.","attachment":null,"posted":1715091016},{"board":"p","thread":4289168,"pid":4311494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309989
beautiful","attachment":null,"posted":1715125568}]} {"title":"Is Nikon a meme or srs company?","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299475,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've been shooting on a Canon 5DIV for the past few years. My shutter has been sticking and instead of sending it back, figure it's time to upgrade. Before this I was a Nikon shooter with the D700/D750/D800 and really liked it but switched to Canon mainly due to the f1.2 lenses and much better customer service in my country.

I rented an R5 and R6II and they were nice enough with the pro zooms and the 50 1.2 but after trying the Z8 and the small 1.8 primes, I really was reminded of what I missed about Nikon. AF was better, the camera bodies felt better and more "rugged", DR was better but in fairness comparing to a previous gen Canon R5. One thing I hated though was how hyuge the Nikon 50 1.2 was- and that's my go-to lens in any system.

Is Nikon doing better now as a company in listening to their customers than they did during the DSLR days? I think I read they were overtaken by Snoy so it must be a kick to the nuts to be #3 now.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1711778999424498.jpg","filename":"Nikon_Z8_Field_Report_Facebook-1024x596.jpg"},"posted":1711778999},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Nikon is for discerning intellectuals but lacks the sports/video features and support contracts the hordes of associated press snapshitters crave except for like two bodies that fall behind in noise.

Canon is the microsoft office of cameras more now than ever","attachment":null,"posted":1711779091},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299477
tbf with the Z8/9, the video is up to par with Snoy and Canon","attachment":null,"posted":1711779303},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299477
It's all the same shit nowadays. It's the lenses and the quality of them that sets each company apart.","attachment":null,"posted":1711810337},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299475
Fwiw, I’m using the Sony 50 1.2 GM with my Z9 via the Megadap adapter, and it’s totally seamless, acts just like a native lens. Much smaller than the equivalent Nikkor, excellent optically. Very happy with it.","attachment":null,"posted":1711810518},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299564,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They're good now IMO. It took them a while to get rolling with the new mount and mirrorless in general but I think they're a solid choice.
Also, I mainly bought into the system because of the lenses.","attachment":null,"posted":1711814708},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299569,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299546
>It's the same shit
Its really not
Canon forces shadow NR because of the design copes of making cameras that fast, and sony has their own technical problems of their own making. Nikon used to be bottom dog technically which is why they made this oversized stupid shallow lens mount and let video get cucked in the name of dynamic range.","attachment":null,"posted":1711815870},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299569
>Nikon used to be bottom dog technically which is why they made this oversized stupid shallow lens mount and let video get cucked in the name of dynamic range.

Can you elaborate pls? genuinely curious about the video cucking part too.","attachment":null,"posted":1711832716},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299627
>Nikon buys RED
>to cuck their video","attachment":null,"posted":1711834083},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299637,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299475
they're great now but took a while to catch up. People that moved on to Sony and Canon won't likely switch back to Nikon though and they'll keep staying in 3rd place.","attachment":null,"posted":1711835128},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299639,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299627
The Z6II and Z7II are excellent general/landscape photography cameras especially for the price (third cheapest) but were godawful video cameras, but the more newer and expensive zf/z8/z9 are excellent video cameras, albeit one has shit ergos and the other two have less dynamic range

It's actually a pretty balanced lineup desu but these days people who do not need anything more than sooc 1080p are flipping their lid about rolling shutter and log gammas","attachment":null,"posted":1711835693},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299652,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299627
Not sure what they mean. The Z6 was an excellent video camera from the outset — with the caveat that you need a monitor to get 10-12bit footage, and if you want 12mo ProRes raw, you need to send it in to Nikon for a $200 upgrade because of licensing costs or whatever.


Very happy with the Z series video performance. Just shot a doc style award video in 10bit 4K30 h265 nLog on the Z9, Z6 was paired with a Ninja V+ capturing in 10bit 4k30 h265 nLog as well… the Ninja files are like twice the size.","attachment":null,"posted":1711838668},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299655,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299652
It was a sufficient video camera for anyone who actually shoots video, but we're talking the wider market here, they get angry at 4k120 being cropped and freak out over open gate because of their chinese anamorphics thus panasonic still has customers and will so long as youtube exists","attachment":null,"posted":1711839325},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4299661,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299475
Every single camera company is shit in their own way
Do your research and find out which shittiness you can tolerate the most
Can't really go wrong with any of the big 3","attachment":null,"posted":1711840581},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4301099,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299652
>Not sure what they mean. The Z6 was an excellent video camera from the outset
Yeah but Nikon's bad reputation for video comes from before that, when it was just DSLRs.","attachment":null,"posted":1712221477},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4304800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299475
>I think I read they were overtaken by Snoy so it must be a kick to the nuts to be #3 now.

nikon made a lot of dumb arrogant decisions. i'm not sure if they have topped the d810 yet. their DSLR cameras were legend, and their mirrorless were inferior in photographic quality and build quality. then they dropped F mount at the same time.

They really did not present a compelling reason to switch over, especially when they use Sony chips.

Maybe now that they bought RED things will get better, but I doubt they will really harness any of that RED brain power beyond pillaging their tech.

I switched to lumix and don't regret it for a second. not only are the lumix cameras WAY better, panasonic is a way cooler company that deserves your money.","attachment":null,"posted":1713271053},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4304811,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304800
The z7ii is equal to the d850
The z6ii/zf surpasses the d750
The z8 sadly has noise like a cannot POS body but so does every truly fast camera except for the $5000 a1 (maybe they should have done what canon did and forced NR in raws?)

Panasonic on the other hand cant even beat fuji for market share or autofocus","attachment":null,"posted":1713275533},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4304813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304800
lol z cams are way better built than the plastic mount d810. whether its ff or m43 panashills always lie. literal bottom dog company that still sees zombies like pentax and olympus as competition.","attachment":null,"posted":1713275594},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4304831,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304813
Panashills don't lie, they're genuinely insane, otherwise they wouldn't shill panasonic. Seriously, panasonic doesn't see pentax as competition, pentax is still way past them. The K-1 is a much more enjoyable and soulful camera with better rendering than their fanciest "S1R", which is all of the sorrows of mirrorless without any of the fun parts. I'd rather use an a7riii. inb4 >but technically the techy techy - i dont care, it has character compared to panasoink.
>But the video codecs
Black Swan was shot on 16mm film and grossed more than your entire family tree is worth. You don't need codecs, you dont even need aps-c, lol.
>But L mount has sigma, check out this mtf shart! SO SHARP! SO SHART!
Trans scat is irrelevant to a pleasing image. Auteurs are pushing out quality TV slop and cinema hits using vintage rehoused canon, nikon, and even soviet primes with 4-6 elements, and the "soft" images from these poor "mtf sharts" are wowing people when blown up to fill 65" flatscreens and presented in theatres. Someone put a helios 44 on a 65mm cinema camera. The movie grossed nearly 500 million globally on day one. MTF sharts, pfffffft.","attachment":null,"posted":1713278297},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4304839,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304811
>a1
>snoy baby mount
The a1 is still noisy once you factor in 2+ stops of vignetting correction on nearly every lens even when stopped down.","attachment":null,"posted":1713280814},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4304917,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I make a living with Nikons, so I think they're pretty srs.","attachment":null,"posted":1713291816},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4305077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304813
>better built than the plastic mount d810

I was crossshopping a z6 and s5. literally everyone was calling nu-nikon dogshit build quality with shit buttons. cope.

>>4304813
>literal bottom dog company

yeah, and somehow these bottom dogs made the best full frame hybrid camera on the market, and still come to market priced under the competition. nikon is fucking pathetic.

>>4304831
coping this hard.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713319846402929.jpg","filename":"1701113152618675.jpg"},"posted":1713319846},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4305079,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305077
why are anusonic shills always such obnoxious retards? buyers remorse?","attachment":null,"posted":1713320903},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4305100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304813
>z cams are way better built
As a sonyfag I don't understand why sony has a larger market share when nikon makes better body with same sensor","attachment":null,"posted":1713324194},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4305594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304839
Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea what they are talking about","attachment":null,"posted":1713476831},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4305599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305100
They got to mirrorless first, they have greater production capacity, they got to the high framerate auto-everything for incompetent journalists thing first, and they opened new tech support centers when nikon had to close some of theirs.

What do you think "professionals" (the majority of them, that you should not look up to or imitate, think the underpaid mooks you see following people around on the news and at sports games) actually care about?
They don't care about dick. They aren't even photographers. They don't even buy the cameras. Their employer does, and employers care about contracts. Supply contracts. Support contracts. And foolproof shit their retarded employees can use without fucking up. What do employers have right now? Long standing deals with sony, lots of supporting equipment that only has first party support on sony, etc, same reason canon has staying power, decades worth of EF gear is piled up wherever people work however shitty it is because it was the best for masses of non-artistic snapshitters way back when.

Nikon just sends cameras into space. 0 future, as far as being a profitable soulless corporate outfit goes. They're going to join pentax, fuji, and panasonic in "artist brands".

>>4305594
No that's pretty accurate. Just go down lens reviews for E mount sometime

35mm f1.4 gm = -3ev wide open, 2ev f2
50mm f1.2 gm = -2.9ev wide open, -1.3ev f2
Many such cases

You need giant black NIGGOR primes or medium format to beat these numbers however.","attachment":null,"posted":1713478519},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4305605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305599
I'm looking at uncorrected 50mm 1.2 GM files made on my Z9 and not seeing that level of light loss.","attachment":null,"posted":1713481302},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4309228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299475
my thoughts are that you should replace that 5D Mk 4 shutter

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Every time I read Niggor I chuckle and makes my day just a bit better, and this one was good. Thank you anon, godspeed to you and your big black Niggor lens collection","attachment":null,"posted":1714580999},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4309456,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305100
worked photo retail for about a decade, and from that perspective, sony had by far the best store support for my region (most sponsored events & workshops, rep visits, relatively few supply issues), greatest spif / commission paid of any of the brands, greatest employee purchase programs / discounts
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>NIGGOR

Kek. I want to change my lens font to this so I get a chuckle every time I look down at it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714672347},{"board":"p","thread":4299475,"pid":4310899,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299475
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i won't bother to ask for any sort of feedback this time. in fact, please refrain from responding at all. now i'm just posting for the sake of adding photos to the board. if you think they suck, then make a new thread and post better photos.

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this one is alright","attachment":null,"posted":1713358976},{"board":"p","thread":4300071,"pid":4305196,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300071
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this one is excellent

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>>4305196
>>4305197
thanks

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kek","attachment":null,"posted":1713435052},{"board":"p","thread":4300071,"pid":4305426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i'm just about caught up now","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713436240479680.jpg","filename":"HRS_7450_01.jpg"},"posted":1713436240},{"board":"p","thread":4300071,"pid":4305466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4300071
cool composition/vignette could be sharper, lines could be better but i like the central light
>>4300802
also good balance here, frame feels just slightly tight
>>4305418
Good portrait, can actually see the subject - framing could improve

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This onion.

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I want to use its tail to clean some bottles and jars.","attachment":null,"posted":1713546115},{"board":"p","thread":4302169,"pid":4309646,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302424
why so desaturated","attachment":null,"posted":1714696560},{"board":"p","thread":4302169,"pid":4309761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309646
Personal preference.","attachment":null,"posted":1714744886},{"board":"p","thread":4302169,"pid":4310035,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Red Panda","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714828284240970.jpg","filename":"20240504_070525.jpg"},"posted":1714828284},{"board":"p","thread":4302169,"pid":4311630,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302169
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based.
>50
cringe. people only buy this shit focal length because they can't afford equally good 35s/40s.
>135
based again","attachment":null,"posted":1712604692},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
For me, it's the 20, 35, 135. The best prime combination.","attachment":null,"posted":1712605191},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302460,"name":"Sugar","msg":"14/2.8 EX, 50/1.2 AI-s and 135/2 DC

The true Holy Trinity","attachment":null,"posted":1712607086},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302468,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"FOURTY MINUTES IN and NOT ONE EIGHTY-FIVE FAGGOT MESSING UP my thread. GLORIOUS!","attachment":null,"posted":1712607754},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302471,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302443
SLIDING SLIGHTLY DOWN ON THE WIDE SIDE is legit but KEEP THAT DISTANCE.","attachment":null,"posted":1712607977},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302472,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have my 55mm that I'm pretty happy with, could focus a little closer and be a bit faster but they're not deal breakers. I have a 90mm macro, I've considered getting a 135mm but I just can't imagine myself switching between the two or choosing to take the 135 out over the 90. For a wide I have a 16-35mm f/4, I just don't see the point in a fast wide prime for most of what wide lenses are used for and it's going to be just as expensive, big, and heavy if not more so.","attachment":null,"posted":1712608020},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"70-200 and a 40mm prime. Anything shorter is a meme and you might as well use your phone","attachment":null,"posted":1712613528},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"85mm, can drop the 50 and 135 dead weights that way","attachment":null,"posted":1712613996},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
>the way to go
for what? or do u just bring the same three lenses everytime you shoot?","attachment":null,"posted":1712615041},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302544,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My issue is I don't take photos of animals often but when I do I need to move quickly, so I either keep a telephoto zoom on and swap it off and back on whenever I want to take a photo or miss critters because I'm trying to change lenses before they run away. I love wide angle and macro too much.","attachment":null,"posted":1712616842},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302551,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302544
Got you covered senpai

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24-85mm kit
70-200mm
200mm-500mm

Cover all the range all day. Weight is nothing.","attachment":null,"posted":1712619416},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302564,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302558
>200-500
Ah, a fellow BIGMA enthusiast, I see.

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24-70mm 2.8
70-200mm 2.8
anything less is just hobbyist cope","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712631062528346.jpg","filename":"afa.jpg"},"posted":1712631062},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302564
that's not the bigma","attachment":null,"posted":1712634619},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302609
Of course it is, look at it it’s fucking huge. It’s big and it’s sigma, so it’s bigma.","attachment":null,"posted":1712635308},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302623,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"40, 90, 200
The rest is pleb tier","attachment":null,"posted":1712639272},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
Cunts!

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OF COURSE I DO!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712651515588939.jpg","filename":"ifcourseido.jpg"},"posted":1712651515},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302646,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302437
I agree. But 40 any day, not 35.","attachment":null,"posted":1712651690},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302763,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
>24
Garbage
>35
Garbage
>50
Alright
>135
Pretty good

But you missed the GOAT
85mm","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712686393064689.jpg","filename":"1712686382462.jpg"},"posted":1712686393},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302777,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302763
There it is.. EIGHTY-FIVE MILL.. the PINNACLE OF AVERAGENESS! Too wide for a decent compression... too TIGHT FOR ANYTHING ELSE BUT PREDICTABLE BODY SHOTS OF FAT CHICKS WITH A FOUR TO FIVE BODY RATIO!

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>5.6-6.3
Literally sub-mft tier but at much more expense and weight. Stick to f/4 or below","attachment":null,"posted":1712694039},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302801
>Literally sub-mft tier but at much more expense and weight. Stick to f/4 or below
Micro four thirds has a 90-300 f2.8-3.1? Really? Where? Does it also cost $2000, work with teleconverters, focus internally with industry leading weather sealing, have a secondary control ring, and have a nearly flawless optical design?

Is this like when I was told f4 zooms were mft tier but mft tier was paying $1500 for an f3.4 zoom with a truncated range?","attachment":null,"posted":1712694218},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302803
teleconverters on that, what a joke. at least you have a uh, "secondary control ring". seems real useful and definitely not a cope! none of that changes the fact that you're hitting damn near 6.3 early in the zoom range.","attachment":null,"posted":1712694617},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302808,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302803
yes its going on sale soon with the micro four thirds body that has 45mp and a base ISO of 15","attachment":null,"posted":1712694646},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302807
Does the micro four thirds 90-300 f2.8-3.1 also hit damn near 6.3 early in the zoom range? Is it also so sharp that with the compatible 1.4x teleconverter it's only as "soft" as a slightly cheaper zoom?

>>4302808
Awesome, placing my g9vi preorder now","attachment":null,"posted":1712694739},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302811,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302810
I don't actually know or care about mft lenses, all I know is you're hauling around a shitty overpriced zoom that hits f/6.3 on a full frame camera. Telephoto zooms are and have always been a scam for hobbyists.","attachment":null,"posted":1712694886},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302814,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302811
Concession accepted, bucko.

Don't bother progressing to larping as "rich" and lying about buying a telephoto prime. I don't want you to end up like that guy who couldn't return his troll purchase before his credit card bill was due.","attachment":null,"posted":1712695031},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302814
>not just paying interest until you can sell it on ebay
its worth the epic btfo on /p/ - gear","attachment":null,"posted":1712695104},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302830,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302814
>all this insecure projection
Here are some simple facts: the 180-600 is not as sharp as Nikon's S lenses. Nikon has many very sharp primes that are not that much more expensive. If you have a Z body and the 180-600 you can afford the 400mm/4.5 that *actually* is very sharp and with faster AF. Even with the 1.4 teleconverter it's sharper than the 180-600 at 600. Sorry you got scammed I guess, you can always resell. Hope you take good care of your stuff.","attachment":null,"posted":1712697014},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302801
>>4302807
>>4302811
>6.3
>6.3
>6.3
You know, if you didn't have a body with a baby sensor that sucks above ISO 1600 you wouldn't care so much about needing to have fast lenses.","attachment":null,"posted":1712699981},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302865,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302830
>ids nawd eben sharp","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712702556222456.png","filename":"kek.png"},"posted":1712702556},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302868,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302865
Oh my god the absolute furthest edges of the image (which my sensor doesn't even cover) are slightly lower contrast in return for being able to span an extra 200mm in either direction what a fucking ripoff and it goes to f6.3 thats unusable on my z50 fucking dropped","attachment":null,"posted":1712702744},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4302904,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"For people who dont speak MTF chart, up and down is contrast and side to side is distance from the image center. Red is fat details and blue is thin details. The dotted and solid lines represent lines going in different directions because sometimes lenses blur more in one direction than another.

Differences around 0.1 contrast and less are not detectable by human (not pixel peeper) observers of real photographs of real subjects, and vanish unless you go out of your way to turn off unsharp mask (only spergs do that). Differences past around that 15/20 line for distance from the center are never observed except in landscape photography and prolonged pixel peeping sessions. No one actually looks at those areas of a photo. It's only relevant to film scanning. You should see the MTF charts of lenses landscape photographers go gaga for - they are actually worse, but no one fucking cares","attachment":null,"posted":1712706836},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4303604,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
You mean 28/45/85, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1712903774},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4303605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I like 28/50/85","attachment":null,"posted":1712903971},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4303703,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303604
It's a meme.

Btw: MFaggoTs, GET OUT OR DID YOU HEAR ME SAY 'TWELVE - TWENTY-FIVE - SIXTY-SEVEN'?!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712945956614629.jpg","filename":"lememe.jpg"},"posted":1712945956},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4303725,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302627
>>4302564

unironically, what the hell is the use case of these","attachment":null,"posted":1712950905},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4303726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303725
small bibrs","attachment":null,"posted":1712951276},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4303728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303725
Perspective control.

I want you to imagine a branch on a tree that's about 3 meters off the ground. There's a bird on that branch. You can get as close as you want, and the angle from you to the bird will get steeper, until you are just looking at its asshole.

With a big lens, you can stand further away, so you are more level with the bird, and still fill more of the frame.","attachment":null,"posted":1712951640},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4303731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"85
135
200","attachment":null,"posted":1712952131},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4303767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303725
the green giant was produced for news photography e.g. in stadiums iirc
it was never meant to be practical or affordable","attachment":null,"posted":1712959055},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4303904,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
200
400
800","attachment":null,"posted":1713020999},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4303910,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303725
Photographing football games. From a fixed position.

it makes a lot more sense than their 500mm f5.6
>its a "sports" lens
>there is not one single good sports body it goes on, just slow panasonics with shit AF and their overpriced counterparts (same camera rebadged as leica)
>put it on your high FPS snoy and it cuts to 15fps with c-af and you can't use teleconverters","attachment":null,"posted":1713022429},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304020,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302855
>implying I own one sensor size
cry more. I own more gear than you and I know a scam when I see it. This lens is not worth almost 2k new. No clue why shilling Nikon is the new hotness on /p/ but their shit is overpriced. Their explicitly anti competive rules for 3rd party lenses should be evidence enough but you retards just love fellating corporate penis.","attachment":null,"posted":1713043688},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304020
>IDS NAHD SHARP
>mtf chart and real photos both demonstrate sharpness. even pixel peeping on a z7
>IDS 2 SLOW
>no faster 600mm zoom exists. Sony's is longer on the wide end and the same speed. canon is glad to sell you a $2000 200-800 f6.3-9 tho (no weather sealing)
>BUY THE TELEPHOTO PRIIIIME THATS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LENS
Lemme guess you bought the 400mm telephoto prime and regret not having the 220mm/200mm on either side lol","attachment":null,"posted":1713046524},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304026
With a teleconverter 600mm-ish is within range of a 400mm prime, and a 400mm prime is sharp enough to handle it unlike a zoom. "Sharp enough" is relative but that zoom is not sharp or fast enough to take TCs.","attachment":null,"posted":1713111970},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304243,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304242
Judging by the photos people take with it, with and without TCs, it's sharp and fast enough to take TCs.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/nikkorz180-600/pool/

A 400mm f4.5 + 1.4x tc = 600m f6.3, 2x tc = 800m f9. 180-600+1.4x tc = 840mm f8.8. nothing achieved except slightly different mtf chart (who cares). Can't do 180mm but slightly lighter, wow thats it? That's the power of spending an extra $1000 on a prime lens so you can shoot 1 stop faster at 400mm? I thought these were full frame cameras so you could raise the ISO one stop and not care? Is bokeh that important when it's already hard to get an entire sparrow in focus?","attachment":null,"posted":1713112263},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304307,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304243
>I thought these were full frame cameras so you could raise the ISO one stop and not care
No, the point is to take superior photos and printing/uploading at larger sizes. If you use a slower longer lens and higher ISOs you're using an overpriced crop sensor functionally.","attachment":null,"posted":1713123834},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304314,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304307
>Slower
Unless you want to buy the 400mm f2.8, your 400mm f4.5+1.4x TC (or plus APS-C body) is the same speed at 600mm. There is no equivalently faster 600mm on crop either except for sticking a $5000 EF 400mm f4 on an r7.
>But higher ISOs
You forgot something, the Z7II, Z8, and Z9 are all 45mp and the Z6II and ZF have their gain stages positioned so their DR beats equivalence and the colors stay very stable at high ISOs. With a high MP camera you can crop and essentially have a crop sensor, print full size, or you can downsample, which reduces the impact of noise.

Do you really think they pay camera companies to release stupid products or are you perhaps the stupid one

The nice expensive camera does in fact take slightly prettier pictures and it's hard to find fault with it unless it's an OM system/pentax product (because those aren't real brands, they're zombies). Like how are you going to find fault with, on the other hand, a G9II+100-400? It's not FF performance, but it has FF flagship gimmicks for a reasonable price.

The answer is the people who make these products are smarter than you. The only stupid thing on the market is the consumer!","attachment":null,"posted":1713124970},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304316,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304314
full frame has other advantages as well, it's not a one lens system, and you dont need a perfect MTF chart to have a sharp lens as your sensor gets bigger. hence the praise the GFX system gets while /p/ is posting MTF SHARTS saying "LOOK HOW BAD GF LENSES ARE MY SNOY GM...","attachment":null,"posted":1713125215},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304384,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"24-70
70-200
200-600","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713145042565189.jpg","filename":"20221011_042347.jpg"},"posted":1713145042},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304387,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"40mm
85mm
135mm

Simple as","attachment":null,"posted":1713145709},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304461,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why does no one here like UW? It's my favorite focal range when I can make it work.","attachment":null,"posted":1713164162},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
18mm pancake with fixed f8 is all you need","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713179602414743.gif","filename":"uxZvLQ.gif"},"posted":1713179602},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4304627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304476
OP agrees.","attachment":null,"posted":1713210733},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4307132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302645
dangerously based","attachment":null,"posted":1713921346},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4307239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
>was first using 35 85 135
>got a 21
>sold the 35
>nowtheresabiggap.arw
>got a 55
>stopped using 21 and 85 altogether
>stuck with using only 55 and 135 to this day
sometimes i wish a had a super wide like 21 or 18 just to see what else kind of compositions i can come up with for my scene but other than that, i can do literally ANYTHING with just 55 and 135","attachment":null,"posted":1713967382},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4307448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
35 prime
70-300 zoom","attachment":null,"posted":1714022165},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4309087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307239
but you do have a 21","attachment":null,"posted":1714514636},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4310681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307239
>i can do literally ANYTHING with just 55 and 135>

Totally based.","attachment":null,"posted":1714941243},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4311301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
The real trinity:
>fast normal/wide angle zoom (f/2.8 constant aperture, 17-50 mm crop, 22/28-70/80 mm full frame)
>fast normal prime (35 mm f/1.4-2.0 crop or 50 mm f/1.4 full frame)
>telezoom with image stabilisation (if you don't have IBIS)
Going all primes is stupid in this day and age, at the very least the telephoto lens should be a zoom lens for the additional flexibility as well as reach.
>24 mm f/2.8
>50/35 mm f/1.4
>70-300 mm f/4-5.6 with image stabilisation
Would make more sense on a FF body","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715094436546772.jpg","filename":"img_1_1689741582898.jpg"},"posted":1715094436},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4311315,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311301
>Going all primes is stupid in this day and age
Virtually all supertelephoto requires lots of speed for good results, normally zooms can't cut it. 70-200 is good for portraits and such but after that you're going to be limited if you pick a zoom over a telephoto because you probably are using the reach for sports or wildlife. All the fieldcraft and "just get closer"ing won't save you from a blurry shot when your target does something cool (ie, moves).","attachment":null,"posted":1715096588},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4311320,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302433
>>4302443
R8 my lens collection

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I specified image stabilisation for a reason, because your main issue beyond 200 mm comes from shake, not target movement.
However if you went with primes instead, you'd need at least 5 lenses:
>24 f/2.8
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Where as zooms allow you to get away with 3 (perhaps even 2) lenses, either:
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And keep in mind, you have to carry all of that plus water and perhaps other gear on a trip.","attachment":null,"posted":1715097507},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4312686,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311320
The absence of 85 mm in your collection has been well regarded.","attachment":null,"posted":1715412527},{"board":"p","thread":4302433,"pid":4312710,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"21mm and 40mm. Everything else is bloat, slop, cringe and garbage. Not a single good photo has been taken on 150mm+. Get closer","attachment":null,"posted":1715423893}]} {"title":"good purchase","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4303153,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hi im working at a summer camp this summer and want to buy a new camera for it is the om system tough tg-7 a good choice In your opinion?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712772608487424.jpg","filename":"s-l1200.jpg"},"posted":1712772608},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4303159,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's a waterproof camera but the quality is like an android phone (so slightly better than apple)","attachment":null,"posted":1712772900},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4303169,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"No reason to buy a new one of these when they are only marginally better than the ones from a few years ago, the ones from a few years ago depreciating like milk. Use that to your advantage and buy a noticeably cheaper used one off of MPB or whatever. Save your pennies.","attachment":null,"posted":1712774812},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4303172,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303153
It's the best/only real option in its class. You can drop it on rocks (advertising says it can be crushed under 100kg of pressure) unlike a phone and it does much better macro, take photos underwater (not just splash proof like other cameras). IQ isn't great and it doesn't have manual controls annoyingly. If you want kids to play with the thing or if you just want to not worry about damage it's a great choice though. Tg-6 and tg-7 are nearly the same, but it's a cheap camera either way. There's also accessories (some people like the diffuser I think?) but they're not essential. You can get proper underwater housing for diving too way cheaper than other cameras. It also has gps tagging like a phone in case you want to document something you found.","attachment":null,"posted":1712775225},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4303185,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4303153

They're pretty good. An older version of this, TG-4 is what I upgraded from when I went to a dedicated underwater Ikelite housing. You will definitely like it. The newer model has a better sensor and handles higher ISOs pretty well for a compact. Well worth the money.

>>4303159

Not the single digit TG's. I had an 870 and you are right, but the IQ was atrocious, though I loved the flippy screen which made composition easy underwater.

These have much better sensors in them but no flippy screen. The lenses are much better and faster too I believe this has an f1.8 or f2 lens on it. I almost bought one until a great deal on an Ikelite setup fell in my lap for my D800","attachment":null,"posted":1712776099},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4303330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"4chan seems to have eaten my post, so sorry if it posts twice
Yes. Takes great macro photos and is good for outdoor rough and tumble use. Here's a hoverfly I found earlier today. It can get much closer detail than this if your subject cooperates and lets you shove the camera right up to it. This photo isn't indicative of the quality because I had to screenshot it due to embedded file error

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It's BIS tough available. I myself only have ancient AW-100 which has not aged well (it's objectively digishit now) but it still can go where my dslr simply can't. A 2nd hand dslr/mirrorless kit would be better for getting into 'serious' photography, but a tough is ideal for having fun snapping at summer camp and a good 2nd cameratoo for anyone, hobbyist or pro.

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this camera is actually pretty crap
the lens is the worst part of it and you'll never get crisp quality photos out of it

it is basically e-waste shit in a rugged protective body that makes it usable for rough conditions
if you need rugged camera, whatever, it's fine
if you need quality photos, you're sacrificing those for the ruggedness

choose wisely
you can't have both for this price","attachment":null,"posted":1713495798},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4305641,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303153
Nope. I would recommend a cambo wide, graflex slxw, sinar handy, or if you're feeling fiesty a linhof master technika with a cammed rodenstock 105mm. Any one should be perfect for your use case.","attachment":null,"posted":1713498902},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4305995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303153
1/2.3" is small and noisy.
Lumix GX8 is cheaper and weather-sealed with dust and splash proof when paired with appropiate lenses and gives you more than decent quality photos
https://www.m43lenses.com/","attachment":null,"posted":1713613847},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4306040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305995
Not one singe “weather sealed” camera, even pentax and nikon, comes close to the olympus tough

ALL weather sealing allows some water to enter. It just means your camera dies in years, not hours.","attachment":null,"posted":1713630147},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4306521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"just use your phone","attachment":null,"posted":1713771508},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4307567,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303153
i'll let you in on a secret anon
sony rx0","attachment":null,"posted":1714073687},{"board":"p","thread":4303153,"pid":4311336,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303153
looks like the type of shoe in autist would wear","attachment":null,"posted":1715098621}]} {"title":"Any recommendations?","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4304282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ordered a telescope on eBay a few weeks ago and it was the first clear night in weeks last night. With no experience using telescopes or space photography, managed to capture this with my iPhone held up to the eyepiece - no tripod.

Was really quite enjoyable setting up and trying to capture it and would like to do more of it.

So, any recommendations for starting gear, tripods, applications, any information you could give basically would be greatly appreciated!!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713118470075370.jpg","filename":"B7C0750A-5580-488C-BDB9-F92CDC0592B2.jpg"},"posted":1713118470},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4304285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304282
just doing the moon and easy deep space objects,
literally any camera and a telescope adapter

it's more about the software you use to stack photos and setting up a tracking mount unless you want NASA quality","attachment":null,"posted":1713118954},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4304308,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304282
Using phone camera with a telescope. Results as expected. Either get a real camera and proper adapter for your telescope, or simply use the viewfinder and enjoy the telescope. Phones and telescopes are often worse than a camera with a decent lens.","attachment":null,"posted":1713123881},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4304918,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304282
Is the waviness atmospheric distortions or some phone AI postprocess stuff trying to fill in detail it thinks should be there?","attachment":null,"posted":1713291837},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4306519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304918
Are you talking about the banding?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_banding","attachment":null,"posted":1713771021},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4306530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304282
Got some things that were fun for me and not bank breaking to try out if you are looking to expand on the hobby.

theres pretty cheap adapters for phones that allow you to hook up your phone to the telescope and take pictures trough the eyepiece,

If you still have a canon/nikon DSLR laying around you can look for whats called a T2 ring, it allows you to attach your camera to your telescope and essentialy use the telescope as your lens,

Youve probably noticed by now that theres no zoom button on your telescope, you can achieve different levels of 'magnification' by buying different eye pieces, the simpelest way to look at this is the smaller the mm the more 'zoomed' in the view will feel, you probably got a standard 25m with the telescope, maybe look into getting something around 10mm aswell and maybe a 2x barlow lens.

as the other anon said a big part comes from the software, look up youtube videos that teach you how to stack the pictures you take from the nightsky and the right settings for your camera

lastly try to share the hobby with other people in your circle, if youre looking at something cool call over a family member, or throw out the telescope when you have friends over, ud be surprised how many people have never looked trough one.","attachment":null,"posted":1713779898},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4306644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306519
Nah look really close at the surface of the moon it has an odd texture that my mind tends to associate with AI images or otherwise modified images.","attachment":null,"posted":1713817495},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4307518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306644
I think it's a light breeze fucking up OPs stabilization","attachment":null,"posted":1714060006},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4307528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307518
This, it looks blurry, and some parts are over-sharpened.","attachment":null,"posted":1714062153},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4309798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306644
I can tell you definitively that this is a shit image, but whether that's due to "ai slop" in your phone or just general overbaking denoising+sharpening applied I can't say.

The ridiculous banding is what jumps out and screams "shit image, shit shit shit, bad bad!" but yes the "fine details" (there are none) are also shit here.
I don't know what to say other than you must shoot RAW, and avoid proprietary "special"RAW formats and stick with regular RAWs.","attachment":null,"posted":1714758144},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4313468,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309798
The fact he managed to line up the eyepiece and phones camera is mildly impressive IMO. Go try it sometime and see how quickly you loose your shit...","attachment":null,"posted":1715647483},{"board":"p","thread":4304282,"pid":4313470,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Old Used DSLR + Picrel (T-Ring)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715648973908740.jpg","filename":"612ER6OZ2bL._AC_SL1500_.jpg"},"posted":1715648973}]} {"title":"Bridge camera aka MASSIVE BONER camera","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4302919,"pid":4302919,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"we must bring back the BIG BENIS camera","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712709520241145.png","filename":"246789126798.png"},"posted":1712709520},{"board":"p","thread":4302919,"pid":4302942,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302919
> 24-600mm equivalent
why. you can get 150-600s cheap enough and they'll be far higher quality than this. i'm sure my 500pf with a 2x teleconverter and cropped 50% gives a better image than a p1000 too","attachment":null,"posted":1712715356},{"board":"p","thread":4302919,"pid":4302982,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I think if anything beats bridges it's mft, it can be just as or more affordable, has better iq, equally good stabilization video etc. and you can use a superzoom like a 24-400 equivalent or put on a reasonably fast lens if it gets dark, and your lenses work with tiny bodies to larger ones with better performance. They're smaller too.","attachment":null,"posted":1712727197},{"board":"p","thread":4302919,"pid":4303041,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302942
Well, you'll then need a 24-whatever zoom to cover the rest of the range and have to put up with needing to swap lenses. Plus the RX10 is significantly smaller and lighter, about half the weight of a 150-600mm on its own and similar in size to a mirrorless body and the normal zoom. Yes the resulting images won't be as high quality but they will be adequate and for some people that is good enough.","attachment":null,"posted":1712743596},{"board":"p","thread":4302919,"pid":4303042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302919
no, it's been over for years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC_s0EeTFzg","attachment":null,"posted":1712744671},{"board":"p","thread":4302919,"pid":4305926,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"can micro four thirds replace these somehow?","attachment":null,"posted":1713580218},{"board":"p","thread":4302919,"pid":4306006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302919
Any camera I use is a big-penis camera because I have a big penis.
I shoot Fuji.","attachment":null,"posted":1713619151},{"board":"p","thread":4302919,"pid":4307943,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hardly a bridge exclusive feature.

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>>4307943
nor a new one for that matter
(yes, i saved this thread from death, your'e welcome.)

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also thinking about getting the P1000","attachment":null,"posted":1715645686}]} {"title":"What was your first digital camera?","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4305294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">pic related

Got it in 2004 for my birthday. Dad spent $400 on this sucker plus the 256-512MB memory cards. It was awesome with the 4x optical zoom and fit in the back seat compartment of my motorcycle so I took it everywhere and got some great pictures. Sensor died not even three years later so my only complaint.

I’ll have to grab a few shots from my computer later, but looking back at some of the pics I’m still impressed with the quality of this little guy. They sometimes have that “DSLR” look instead of the processed iPhone camera look.

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I still have it somewhere too, thats the funny part.
I wish i was into photography back then, would have been cool to have some memories as opposed to really shitty b-roll.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713378725865418.jpg","filename":"30-172-017-09.jpg"},"posted":1713378725},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4305296,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305294
What model is it? Looks a lot like a finepix E510 i had in my possession a short while before i shamelessly flipped it. I have handled quite a lot of digicams, but that one for some reason stood out for me. I just like the esthetics of it. It was nice to handle as well.","attachment":null,"posted":1713379727},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4305299,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Nikon coolpix 5200. Got it for my 10th or 11th birthday I think. Found it in my parents attic a year or so ago. Had to buy a new battery but it still works great.

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Here’s a random snapshit I took with it. Gotta use it more it’s a lot of fun with the little tunnel viewfinder. I do wish it had a shutter priority mode though.

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Olympus SP-510 UZ.
7.1 megapixel snapshits were all mine. Purchased this with the first paycheck I got on some of my jobs, don’t remember which one.","attachment":null,"posted":1713381809},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4305306,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Some unintentionally cool stuff in here actually.

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Sorry. It’s the e550.","attachment":null,"posted":1713385506},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4305326,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Some disposable Kodak from the late 90s early 00s
IDK which one","attachment":null,"posted":1713385702},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4305327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305294
Is this the zoomer datamining thread? Why are digishit camera suddenly $50-100 right now?","attachment":null,"posted":1713385915},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4305330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I shared a Powershot S3 with its 7 megapickels of fury beforehand (having a typical white-sneakers father who liked photography and loved zoom, but lacked the know how or budget for an SLR), but an SX130 was the first one that was my own. Loved that little thing, I carried it loose in a backpack daily for years until the screen got all sorts of scuffed and the metal ring surrounding the lens got a huge dent in it and somehow it still works great once you slap two AAs in. Typical late 2000s Canon that punched above where you'd expect it to in the price/size range and with really pleasing colors and surprising sharpness that made me a Canon fanboy for a long time, even without raw since 15 years later I don't think the CHDK build for it ever left beta.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713388359378662.jpg","filename":"34167832_OVR_1333x1000[1].jpg"},"posted":1713388359},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4305331,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305330
That makes me identifiably younger than some posters here despite being a 30 year old boomer, but sometimes I forget how average age varies by board. Anyway, one of those chinkshit "phone sensor in an off-brand body with someone else's name slapped on" cameras you see everywhere now clones the body of a decade and a half old point and shoot (mixing the 130 and 150, judging by the chrome bit) and it makes me a little sad because I got so much use out of the real thing.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713388787251229.jpg","filename":"6530060_sd[1].jpg"},"posted":1713388787},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4305347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305294
first camera was a (pentax? kodak?) 300x600 camera. used a 3.5mm pin to serial cable to download the photos from and only had a capacity for about 5 images. it sucked. obviously.
next was a sony mavica with the 1.44mb floppy drive, was kinda cool, but still sucked and it drained batteries like a gameboy on a long road trip.
3rd shitty camera was my Canon Powershot A520. did my first photoshoot on that thing, took it to a heap of parties, but quickly realised how bad it actually was at most things. heaps of motion blur, weird exposure settings in low light. fine in good light, but kinda overall meh.

went out and bought a 450D not long after and thats what I could consider my first 'good' camera. slapped on an external flash and it became my party whore. in later years it turned into my go-to studio photoshoot camera while i got into medium format film/

not sure why zoomers want to go back to this look. you can easily get it with a modern camera by using low ISO, a huge flash and add a slow shutter speed to add some shitty blur (then add digital and colour noise in post), bonus is you get an image size larger than a postage stamp","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713397513862119.jpg","filename":"3q.jpg"},"posted":1713397513},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4305382,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305294
For me it was picrel, hp m417, which was mediocre even for its time. But my parents went with cheap but still functional, rather than go cheap into junk off brand tier. They got it for me getting a 4.0 junior year or something like that back in 2004ish. Being a digital hoarder since I think I still have pics from it somewhere, but not many. Honestly though it’s one of those things where if we look at the specs and performance today we’d call it a piece of trash, but using it back then was fine, fun even because I was one of the first kids I knew with a digital camera. Funny how that works.

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Picrel is what the output was like. Kept it for longer than I thought I did it would seem.

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The first and only digital camera I bought for myself was a fujifilm x-t100 which I initially got just to scan film but then I switched to digital because it's easier.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713629320740259.jpg","filename":"9232564_ra.jpg"},"posted":1713629320},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4306037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305327
it's been like that for longer than suddenly. It's only a matter of time until hipsters start using old shit anyways. It's practically an investment to buy literally anything now and make an article or video about it 10-20 years later","attachment":null,"posted":1713629846},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4306050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305294
Kodak DX6490. Got it as a hand-me-down around 2010. Excellent colour science with terrible dynamic range. Still got it, and it works, though the mode dial switch is worn, it keeps shifting between modes on its own.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713631295944434.jpg","filename":"DX6490.jpg"},"posted":1713631295},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4306111,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305312
Hey I got this one on me right now
Is it ok to take some shots?
I don't really know how to use it","attachment":null,"posted":1713643666},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4306135,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Powershot a40. Bought with my first salary.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713651812111616.png","filename":"powershit.png"},"posted":1713651812},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4306516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"AGFA ePhoto Smile
First camera that was sub-$100 (on sale.) And I didn't even have a proper connection to offload the photos. It was only set up for PCs, and I had a Macintosh with a video capture card. So I fed the playback through that and took video screencaps.

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I have one of those, but the set button doesn't work","attachment":null,"posted":1713998443},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4307458,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"probably a sony dsc-w55 but it's more of the family digicam than mine since i was a kid back then

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I never actually properly owned a camera, but for some time I had this lying around in my drawer, it was my sister's. I never actually used it though.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714812360816542.jpg","filename":"dcc543_b.jpg"},"posted":1714812360},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4310008,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310005
Here's a random photo from it.

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my dad got it for free with a nat geo subscription
I still have it but don't use it as much since it runs on double AAs","attachment":null,"posted":1714834404},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4310074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310073
forgot pic","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714834479864661.png","filename":"s-l400.png"},"posted":1714834479},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4310077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"For me it was the lz2. I don't think I have a single photo from it still.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714835405096408.jpg","filename":"images.jpg"},"posted":1714835405},{"board":"p","thread":4305294,"pid":4310124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"this little guy

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Surprised the quality was way better than upscaled vga webcam stuff for only 50 euros.

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Apparently hollywood is using soviet photo glass for movies now. Companies are rehousing them into film lenses.

Dune 2 was shot entirely on old Soviet glass.

I know the Helios m42 is legend. what else should I look at.

I am on L mount.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713100885958466.png","filename":"Screen Shot 2024-04-14 at 9.20.51 AM.png"},"posted":1713100885},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4304171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BOcW6WbL8U","attachment":null,"posted":1713101014},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4304451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"If you have Hollywood money why would you not just buy an actual Jena Biotar at that point?","attachment":null,"posted":1713161220},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4304453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304170
Why not just melt some glass over a cereal bowl and call it soviet glass? Profit!","attachment":null,"posted":1713162103},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4304458,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Gelios is simply the best optic","attachment":null,"posted":1713162556},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4304467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304451
>If you have Hollywood money why would you not just buy an actual Jena Biotar at that point?
Nobody does professional-level rehousing of them. And also there are no so much copies of biotars on market (just a magic part of soviet economy when goods produced not because people need them, but to make peepo do something continuously)","attachment":null,"posted":1713174015},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4304488,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"Why cant we have some helios 103's rehoused for M mount","attachment":null,"posted":1713186441},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4304552,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304488
>Why cant we have some helios 103's rehoused for M mount
haven't people with eyes of cunts released it yet?","attachment":null,"posted":1713197276},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4304565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304488
Contax RF mount superiority proved once again","attachment":null,"posted":1713198632},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4304571,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304451
>>4304467

yeah, there are millions of helios floating around. the re-housing company is in Ukraine, and I imagine building a company without a steady flow of available glass is pretty fucking hard.

people are getting some amazing results with them. I picked up a pretty fresh looking 44m-4 off of ebay for $60 wtih free shipping from bulgaria. excited.

I would recommend picking up a lens now while you can. there is a lot of chatter about these lenses.","attachment":null,"posted":1713200060},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4305361,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304170
>Dune
They shot these movies with old obsolete lenses because if the world saw that goblin Zendaya in real HD they would never recover from it, and they'd go bankrupt.

Dune looked bad for a reason people.","attachment":null,"posted":1713405857},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4305364,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4304488
Nice digits, heil'd
>>4305361
Absolutely kek","attachment":null,"posted":1713406565},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4305405,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"there is some guy on ebay refurbishing and adding the mount of your chosing to soviet lenses, "Retro photo shop" i think who does it relatively cheap. highly recommend got one for nikon F mount","attachment":null,"posted":1713427514},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4305829,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304170
i'm lucky as fuck since i moved to armenia six months ago and easily got a zenit camera which has a helios with it","attachment":null,"posted":1713558682},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4305842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305361
Realest post on this websight tbqhwy it’s insane to me how our celebrity board (/tv/) has even accepted this Hollywood goblin as “hot”.","attachment":null,"posted":1713560272},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4305872,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Correct, now is the time to buy at inflated prices due to all the youtubers hyping them up. The real time to buy was years ago.


By the time something is memed, and by the time you jump on the bandwagon, the bleeding edge folks will have already moved on to the next gimmick.

In summary, there's lots of lenses out there, experiment. Don't follow leaders, watch the parking meters.","attachment":null,"posted":1713565393},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4305918,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304170
Why would people shoot that film on Soviet you're a glass when it's meant to be displayed in imax?","attachment":null,"posted":1713578734},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4305920,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305872
All these old lenses are shit and unique. Eventually some normie movie will be shot on olympussy sucko lenses and those will be $500 a pop. Get your 135mm f2.8s while you can.","attachment":null,"posted":1713578849},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4305921,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305918
Because “soft” lenses still have a lot of detail, it’s just not as crispy.","attachment":null,"posted":1713578931},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4305929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305872
Dylanfags are insufferable, especially the ones who don't really get the lyrics they quote","attachment":null,"posted":1713580559},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4306238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305921
This statement makes absolutely no sense. If you're going to display stuff in an IMAX theater you need resolution and detail.","attachment":null,"posted":1713708684},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4306239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306238
It has detail. The individual hairs are there. Just not as contrasty. Too sharp of a lens and it looks like a 3d render or AI enhanced. Why do you think mirrorless portraits shot with flawless lenses like the nikon noct and plena look uncanny before retouching? Human vision isnt nearly that sharp. If nikon had a 100mp camera you could crop super sharp 5mp images out of it, the sharpest 5mp has ever been, with the plena attached. It’s actually too much.","attachment":null,"posted":1713708993},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4307249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305872
>Correct, now is the time to buy at inflated prices due to all the youtubers hyping them up. The real time to buy was years ago

these lenses are like $60 with free shipping faggot. have fun when they are $200 in a couple years.","attachment":null,"posted":1713970007},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4307358,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307249
i'm the anon that is in armenia, they're about $20 WITH the zenit cameras here, it's cheap as fuck","attachment":null,"posted":1713994497},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4307361,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304170
Here is the list of most common ones with description and tests

https://radojuva.com/en/photo-review/#russian","attachment":null,"posted":1713994844},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4307688,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304170
>soviet glass to L mount
10/10 op thank you","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714112468938321.jpg","filename":"1714112463058.jpg"},"posted":1714112468},{"board":"p","thread":4304170,"pid":4311660,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I shouldn't have bought mine from Ukraine, it got stuck in K-City for nearly a month.

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>Dune 2 was shot entirely on old Soviet glass.
the Helios was a bit of an odd choice in this scene imo, it's just the emperor talking about politics with his daughter but the swirl makes it feel like a dizzying dream","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715183825211405.jpg","filename":"Dune-Part-Two-Trailer-062923-05-945a24d6bcba44529c44c7c5d633e840[1].jpg"},"posted":1715183825}]} {"title":"Is everything after the D700 diminishing returns?","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304246,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I bought a D700 off ebay some time in 2019ish before the youtube people made it inflate in price.

I don't see a reason to upgrade, everything seems like diminishing returns. Don't need any more megapixels, autofocus is fast enough, build quality is great, body is a tank, color science is great, great lens ecosystem.

What are honestly the advantages of upgrading? More muh megapixels? I don't see the point when this thing is perfect. Even the newest hottest most basedest 2024 shit is like 10% better at most, and thats in niche scenarios.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713112589527213.jpg","filename":"300px-D700-400.jpg"},"posted":1713112589},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">gear bait thread
>posts a camera from google images
Use the camera you like the most
>but if you- the- according to this- the codec dynamic range chart- cost value analysis-
Use the camera you like the most","attachment":null,"posted":1713113281},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304264,"name":"Sage","msg":">>4304246
> I don't see a reason to upgrade
Then don’t, faggot.
/thread
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That's nice, why not show us some pics you took with it? I'll be nice, I promise.","attachment":null,"posted":1713123671},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304246
There hasn't been a meaningful improvement to image quality since ~2013. Really when buying a camera today you should be more concerned with ergonomics in a total sense. By that I mean button placement, grip, size, weight, EVF/OVF quality, tactile feel.

There are some neat features in modern camera that I personally find very helpful, such as manual focus punch in and articulating screens.

You also have lens selection, which is arguably more important than a specific camera body.

So to answer your initial question. Yes, it is well within diminishing returns in pure image quality. But there are other considerations which may make it worth it to buy something newer.","attachment":null,"posted":1713125766},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304319,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304246
Only you can make the judgement of whether it's worth upgrading to a newer camera or not. Upgrading to even a D800 over a D700 gets you a lower base sensitivity, higher dynamic range, and better low light performance. I have both a D800 and a D3, which is basically a D700 with a bigger battery, extra card slot, and integrated vertical grip. I like the look of the D3 for portraits, and I still use it on occasion for this purpose, as I don't feel that it's necessary to capture a whole 36MP of detail all the time.

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I do, however primarily use the D800, because of the aforementioned reasons, and I like the extra detail most of the time.

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>There hasn't been a meaningful improvement to image quality since ~2013
Noisewise, yeah
Throw in shadow recovery... it's not so clear cut. The Z6II has better shadow recovery than the D750, D800, D810, etc. The Z7II might be a little worse than the D850, a little.

It alsp depends on what you tolerate lenswise

Sure, if you buy top tier primes (on DSLRs these get fucking BIG) and professional telephoto zooms, things have changed very little. But mid tier primes and zooms have gotten much sharper and smaller on mirrorless, ala rangefinder lenses, especially since the image circle no longer needs to even look like a photo before corrections - see canon 10-20mm. And it's gotten a lot easier to get a 24-70 f2.8 that's as sharp as most primes were historically. I don't think shit like the sony 20-70 f4 or the sheer quality of nikon's kit zooms was doable on DSLRs, at least not at the same size and price point.","attachment":null,"posted":1713127044},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304326
>throw in shadow recovery
the 2012 D4 would like to have a word with you","attachment":null,"posted":1713128347},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304329,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304328
But then you have to use a D4","attachment":null,"posted":1713129116},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304246
>I bought a d700
But did you use it
Shit bro do you even have one

Let's see your pictures or at least a picture of your camera

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But you can spend $3k and base your entire personality on a modern camera and pretend it makes you a good photographer without having to learn anything about photography at all.
Success in photography is not about photos or popularity, it’s about having the camera with the highest specs.","attachment":null,"posted":1713138724},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304357
You sound bitter and delusional. No one said this.

Did you maybe try and say your mft camera had more dynamic range than full frame and get pwned?","attachment":null,"posted":1713141320},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304368,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304329
What a lovely experience.
DF exists if you just wanna have fun.","attachment":null,"posted":1713141667},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304366

Try bringing up how anything over 24mp is pointless and see how you go around here, or how mirrorless view finders have lag compared to optical.
These things really trigger the modern mirrorless photography user who would have been better buying an old dslr but refuse to admit it.","attachment":null,"posted":1713142001},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304372,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304246
The D810e was the ultimate Nik. Big jump up in noise/img quarity, works with every lens evarrrr, F mount so affordabibble, 36 MEGA PICKSUHLS. I don't know why you'd bother with a 700. Get the 810 or sell it all and go full Z, like those fucking russians, just not totally like the retarded neighbor-murdering cuntbag motherfucking god damned russians. The good Z. Nigga you can get a fuckin used Z7 for like a thousand bones with 45 megasmurfs and just call it a day. ...then spend $6000 on like 2 good lenses. Yea they getcha on the glass. Protip: 14-30mm + 85mm Prime = cleanliness/godliness

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>over 24mp is pointless
It depends on what you shoot and how you shoot it. Usually, this goes like
>NO YOUR WANTS ARE WRONG STOP DOING THAT BECAUSE IT MAKES BETTER CAMERAS FUN
'Cuz it's not about photography to you. Never has been.
>EVF lag
Never seen it unless shooting fucking hummingbirds or using the digital loupe.

Now, can I see your camera?
Notice I am not asking for your photos.

I doubt you ever took any. And if you did, they probably suck.","attachment":null,"posted":1713146191},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304390,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304372
Didn't they change from a metal lens mount to a metal bayonet attached to plastic between the d800 and d810? Kek","attachment":null,"posted":1713146256},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304392,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304318
>>4304246
Im using a D7000 right now, whats the next step to full frame? D600?","attachment":null,"posted":1713146578},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304393,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304392
Pentax K1ii","attachment":null,"posted":1713146623},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304393
The Pentax kr was my first DLSR from 2012-2014 when the shutterbox broke. I moved on to nikon since then and now I have 8 Nikon lens and only two Kmounts. both are manual focus old glass","attachment":null,"posted":1713146704},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304400,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304392
I'd get a D800 unless you're really budget-constrained. I'll never be getting rid of mine.","attachment":null,"posted":1713148243},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304401,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304392
D800e probably","attachment":null,"posted":1713148640},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304403,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304400
>>4304401
whats a safe shuttercount for used 800s?","attachment":null,"posted":1713148824},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304404,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304403
Nikon only tested them to 200k. Some have gone further. Some "tried the weather sealing" and died at 100k.","attachment":null,"posted":1713148995},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304410,"name":"Sugar","msg":"I own both a D700 and a D800, I'll explain some things.

The colors and overall image quality are almost the same, on the same lenses. The D800 does higher ISOs and has a lower base ISO as well as more megapickles.

The biggest difference is AF. The D800 curbstomps it. I have underwater housings for both and the D700 will hunt underwater where as the D800 nails it first time every time. D800 does low light AF better.

Compared to the rest of the Jewtoob hypebeast cams the D700 is still a good deal. I paid 200 for mine after Jewtoobers hyped them. It doesn't sensor-band like the 5Dinosaur in the shadows. And with the advent of Z mount the DSLRs are coming down, I have seen my D800 for 500 bucks.","attachment":null,"posted":1713151649},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304319
3 cameras to take snapshits of your mom","attachment":null,"posted":1713152625},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304415
nta, but I think that's a really nice candid shot of his mom.","attachment":null,"posted":1713152718},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304417,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304415
As opposed to what blurry hobos?","attachment":null,"posted":1713152843},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304434,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304415
Since when do a D3 and a D800 make three cameras?","attachment":null,"posted":1713156411},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304410
>d700 for 200

Was the guy selling it for crack or had like 230k shutter count?","attachment":null,"posted":1713221130},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304670,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304668
That's cheap, but not much below market rate. I see them on MPB in decent condition for $250.","attachment":null,"posted":1713221826},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304736,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4304668
Why wouldn't a first generation budget full frame body be $200 now?","attachment":null,"posted":1713237997},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304750,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304736
eceleb price inflation","attachment":null,"posted":1713240563},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304670
250 euros or pounds? That's like 450us or 500cnd.","attachment":null,"posted":1713266219},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304793
USD, hence the "$". :P","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713280061687341.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240416-110556.png"},"posted":1713280061},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304736
Why can't we buy a d750 for peanuts? We can buy other expensive tech toys from 2014, like the iphone 6 plus, 2014 macbook pro 15" retina, etc in the $100-$200 range.

And yet ebay boomers continue thinking it's sane to pay $1500 for a d750 and a soft as shit slightly decentered zoom lens from 2008. This is like paying a grand for a

Camera sellers, and most camera buyers, are actual retards who have mistaken plastic japanese consumer electronics with multiple recalls out for luxury watches.","attachment":null,"posted":1713282364},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304850,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304847
>This is like paying a grand for a
What the fuck I typed paying a grand for a . I didn't type nothing there, i typed " "","attachment":null,"posted":1713282795},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304854,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So these are overflated prices? The one in the middle has a shutter count of 300,000","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713283241052673.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1713283241},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304847
you can instantly find a d750 on ebay for $600 nobody is paying $1500 for one","attachment":null,"posted":1713283831},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304869,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304855
>$600
ripoff. $200 less than a used z6 or less beat up d780, wow.

should be $350 tops for a decent one.","attachment":null,"posted":1713287312},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304872,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304854
Yeah that's kind of fucked. I paid $380 USD for my D800. Don't bother with the D800E. You get nothing extra except aliasing artifacts in some images whereas the D800 has none.","attachment":null,"posted":1713287512},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"everything is fucked then","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713287599120187.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1713287599},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304875,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304874
Hit the guy under that with a $350 offer unless it's fucked","attachment":null,"posted":1713287720},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304877,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304875
>doesnt list the shutter count
why the fuck are people so dumb they cant do the one thing that will help their camera sell?

no way he will take 350 for it when he can clearly see other cameras selling for more than that","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713287925277095.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1713287925},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304884,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4304372
>just not totally like the retarded neighbor-murdering cuntbag motherfucking god damned russians
Don't tell me what not to do.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713289499746448.png","filename":"g_Warning_Z.png"},"posted":1713289499},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304885,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304877
Because it's probably 200k kek

Buying anything good and old off ebay is impossible. It's all doubled in price because of forum and youtube comment sections flocking there. You have to watch craigslist/fb market, and be ready to negotiate.","attachment":null,"posted":1713289710},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304886,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304885
its even worse locally..","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713290067316704.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1713290067},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304887,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4304847
Because photographic purchases, for most people, are personal luxury items unnecessary to their profitable work.
There is no "need" to upgrade their equipment or even own it to begin with.
Digital cameras also have a much longer lifespan than other electronics.
A 1990's DSLR with still produce the same photos that it always did, just on a slightly more inconvenient storage device.
Meanwhile, any non 4G/5G capable cellular phone has been rendered useless in North America and pre-Core laptops struggle with most multimedia applications.","attachment":null,"posted":1713290183},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304891,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4304877
>why the fuck are people so dumb they cant do the one thing that will help their camera sell?
It's not their business.
They'll probably sell 2 DSLRs in their entire life, at most.

>no way he will take 350 for it when he can clearly see
You called the guy dumb and now you're talking up his retail prowess?
Make up your mind.","attachment":null,"posted":1713290408},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304896,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304886
>implying local sellers will EVER sell for asking price
Lol. Not unless it's already a bargain - or stolen gear/estate sale fodder and a bargain.

You could probably buy the d810 for $600. The D800+lens+grip+4 batteries for $550 is a fair price - remember if you bought it body only on ebay you'd pay another $50-60 in shipping and tax. If you sold the grip and lens you'd get $200 off = $350 D800.","attachment":null,"posted":1713290615},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304898,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304886
what lenses are in that $1000 package? it might be $1000 worth of lenses","attachment":null,"posted":1713290701},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304904,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304896
The grip one is good but its 2.5 hrs from me to get it. The $1000 one is in green bay, over 3.5 hours from me.
any savings Id have would be negated by the cost to drive there and back

only close one is this with 15K clicks","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713290998665500.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1713290998},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304905,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304736
Because people are willing to pay more than that, and that's what sets the monetary value of things.

>>4304847
>Camera sellers, and most camera buyers
If the buyers are willing to pay that much then the sellers seem anything but stupid for asking it. You're just salty as fuck because the end result is that you can't afford the toy you want.","attachment":null,"posted":1713291001},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304906,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304891
dumb people can see $ and think "i see price-i want price" its why you have boomers who have the no lowballers mentality. they see a number and want it like everyone else.","attachment":null,"posted":1713291087},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304904
>2.5hrs
Whats that, $50 in gas?

Make the drive, sell the grip and lens (you already have lenses) for the ~$200 off. Or pay the convenience fee and offer $500 for the 15k click one and be glad you didn't have to pay $50 in extra fees.","attachment":null,"posted":1713291160},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304914,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304885
>Buying anything good and old off ebay is impossible
There are still some good prices to be had.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713291501974247.png","filename":"eBay_Order_Canon_28mm.png"},"posted":1713291501},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304898
>Everything you need to get out and start taking professional photos. Includes the camera body, three lenses, battery grip, spare batteries, speed light, cleaning accessories, and carrying bag.

>Lenses:
>Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 wide angle FX
>Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 non-vc, FX
>Nikon 35mm f/1.8 DX (crop sensor)
>The camera and lenses alone are worth over $1000, so you’re basically getting everything else for free. Pickup east GB near Red Smith.

not bad. 7 hours round trip at 430 miles would be about $80 in gas","attachment":null,"posted":1713292034},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304922
The lenses are worth maybe $800 together. the tamron 24-70 is ok, but not great.

worth it","attachment":null,"posted":1713293120},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304927
he conveniently left out the shuttercount on the body. ill send him a message and see, if all goes well ill snag it this weekend","attachment":null,"posted":1713293280},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4304952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304927
>the tamron 24-70 is ok, but not great
It also doesn't work right with the FTZ, which is (partly) why the used prices on these fell a lot in recent years.
For DSLR definitely a great bang for the buck right now.","attachment":null,"posted":1713296449},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305015,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4304904
God, Nikon vertical grips are ugly.","attachment":null,"posted":1713306524},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305016,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4304905
>Because people are willing to pay more than that
It depends on the model.
I see 5D Mark II's going for about $200.","attachment":null,"posted":1713306606},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305017,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4304906
Plenty of boomers have bills to pay too.
I've bought a lot of camera stuff by offering two-thirds or less of what the list price was.","attachment":null,"posted":1713306732},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305016
Probably because canon DSLRs are junk with mft-tier sensors. Like the 5dsr, 50mp? Yes. Don't bother going over ISO 100.","attachment":null,"posted":1713306873},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305138,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305018
The 5D Mk II sensor is certainly not as good as the ones Sony and Nikon were putting out at that time, but it blows the fuck out of anything in MFT.","attachment":null,"posted":1713336195},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305163,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304837
They're old used up rags of cameras that's why ... if you're gonna get a dslr in todays world at least get one that will continue to have some life left in it.","attachment":null,"posted":1713350211},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305201,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304869
meh. the z6 is only 2 years younger than d750, has same image quality, and is only an improvement for having from ibis and 4k video - things not everyone cares about. it SHOULD be worth only $200 more.
as for d780, where do you see those for less than $1200","attachment":null,"posted":1713360102},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305222,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305201
The Z6 has much better image quality (better DR), and can use superior Z mount lenses that btfo all F mount harder than EF mount btfo'd F mount. Why do you think canon was the #1 brand when nikon had better sensors? Lenses. The average F mount lens is worse than its EF counterpart.","attachment":null,"posted":1713364833},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305225,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"can someone tell my why everyone is dumping mirror box cameras for Z mount? it just because because its more portable and smaller?","attachment":null,"posted":1713365134},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305225

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The prime lenses are the best in the industry. Their only reasonable competition is sony’s 1.4 GM primes… vs cheaper f1.8 S lines. The professional 1.2s, telephoto primes, and named lenses (noct, plena) are just better than everyone elses.

The zoom lenses range between the best, to slightly different from canon. All canon has over nikon right now is a huge soft 24-105 f2.8 and a 28-70 f2. Not even mentioning the MFT tier scam lenses that vary to f8. Nikon also has the best long zoom, the 180-600. It’s the same speed as snoys but sharper with a wider range.","attachment":null,"posted":1713365857},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305234,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305232
Sony cant be reasonable competition because then you have to use a sony
>etz adapter
Oh right","attachment":null,"posted":1713366412},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304885
>>4304914
Nevermind, the lens is busted.","attachment":null,"posted":1713393434},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304885
>>4304914
>>4305340
https://files.catbox.moe/agixi3.mp4
RIP","attachment":null,"posted":1713398655},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305222
>Why do you think canon was the #1 brand when nikon had better sensors?
because Canon lenses had internal autofocus motors when Nikon was still fucking around with screwdrive, and Nikon never recovered","attachment":null,"posted":1713401458},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305367,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4305353
This, also electronic aperture but I'm not sure it's an advantage at all","attachment":null,"posted":1713407110},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4305370,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304246
It matters more if your camera is just a hobby (dedicated outings) or also a lifestyle thing (take camera to places just because). In the latter case upgrading to a newer mirrorless does help. the back screens are a lot better and they're faster to shoot. not FPS fast shooting (but that too). the VF is optional, the lens is stopped down for the view and there's a focus magnifier that makes manual a lot faster, the auto-autofocus is magic and exposure preview means you don't have to spot meter in difficult scenes. these dont matter as much if its just your hobby to go on photowalks, a DSLR can manage even with sports/wildlife. a DSLR might even better if you're night shooting, since there's no low light EVF lag/noise.","attachment":null,"posted":1713408690},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305349
Top kek","attachment":null,"posted":1714233665},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308066,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4305353
fuck internal autofocus motors all my homies hate internal autofocus motors
screwdrive niggas will live forever!!!!!!!!!!!!","attachment":null,"posted":1714237139},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308079,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308066
Preach, brother. Internal AF is a scam by Big Lens to screw with the used market and make us buy new.","attachment":null,"posted":1714241598},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308080,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305349
Is that lens not a tilt model?","attachment":null,"posted":1714241782},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308095,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4308079
pro bodies cost less than pro lenses so why wouldnt they be the expendable part
especially used gear, why rely on a lens that might chew up its contacts when you can have a sturdy as shit screw drive and swap bodies when they inevitably die","attachment":null,"posted":1714245758},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This Asian girl is selling a D810 with 85k shutter and lens grip and batteries for $800, should I offer her 700?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714485332093962.jpg","filename":"d810.jpg"},"posted":1714485332},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308855
>asian girl
>willing to meet up
agree to whatever price and meetup
then tire kick price down","attachment":null,"posted":1714485599},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308859,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308856
What are you saying, Asians are pushovers on price?","attachment":null,"posted":1714485807},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308859
Yes also crack some jokes and have sex with her","attachment":null,"posted":1714488362},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308890
She has a Korean boyfriend according to her profile buddy","attachment":null,"posted":1714488561},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308895
So?

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$600 IMO. That lens is dogshit by the way.","attachment":null,"posted":1714491240},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308908
Unfortunate. I don’t have an FX lens in that range currently. I can body-only d810s for $650-700, but I thought the lens and extra batteries and grip was a nice bonus. I’m not sure if I will even use the grip","attachment":null,"posted":1714491510},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308912
I would consider the lens worth $0 in the deal.","attachment":null,"posted":1714491655},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308912
You can sell the lens for $150 or $200 easy

It is worth money and the batteries would probably be $100 ($80 for nikon $20 for 2x third party) if you had to buy them yourself","attachment":null,"posted":1714493054},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304246
No, it's actually everything better than a d610 is diminishing returns. D750 if you INSIST on shooting from 2 feet off the ground.

All you can do past that is double your megapixels or buy into a premium lens mount where the gear costs double for 50% more resolution. Worth it? Absolutely, but this site is plagued with as many broke bitches who lost their money in crypto scams as it is with rich bitches.","attachment":null,"posted":1714493814},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304246
everything after the F2 is diminishing returns","attachment":null,"posted":1714494279},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308962,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308895
He can clean up after you get done.","attachment":null,"posted":1714498076},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308982,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Dated DSLR bros, I'm seeing a bunch of d200, d70 etc videos coming up on youtube lately. They were always there, but it's accelerating.

The end is near. Grab your old nikons while you can. The normies are waking up. Next thing you know we'll run out of af-d 24mms, 12-24 f4s, and dx 35 f1.8s.","attachment":null,"posted":1714500603},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4308983,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308982
Whew I’m safe for another day

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2 d200 videos and a d500 video in the past week ITS OVER

THE STREET PHOTOGRAPHERS FOUND OUT NOBODY CARES IF THEY USE A DSLR","attachment":null,"posted":1714501038},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4309022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308982
nonono please no I was just thinking about picking up a bunch of DX lenses. At least I have a D40 already.","attachment":null,"posted":1714505799},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4310399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308855
Damn I think it might be a scam

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never send deposits","attachment":null,"posted":1714933515},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4310658,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Does the D700 become a semi D3 when you add a grip?","attachment":null,"posted":1714937081},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4310669,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310399
Sure looks like one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714938892},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4310766,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310658
Kinda. It still isn't as fast as one, the build quality isn't quite as tough, the shutter will not last as long, and you don't have voice memos, but you are getting most of the D3 experience out of it.

On the plus side, the MB-D10 is a fucking massive chunky grip that may fit your hands better than the D3's vertical grip if you have large hands, the MB-D10 also has its own AF joystick, whereas the D3 only has one, which makes adjusting your AF point while in vertical use a big reach for your thumb; the EN-EL3 batteries for the D700 are really fucking cheap compared to the ones the D3 takes.

Overall, if I didn't already have a D3, and I wanted to choose between the two of them, I would set a budget of $350 and get whichever of them I could that was in the best condition, with the provision that the D700 comes with at least two batteries and the MB-D10.","attachment":null,"posted":1714959678},{"board":"p","thread":4304246,"pid":4312677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304393
Underrated post","attachment":null,"posted":1715408415}]} {"title":"Depth/Focus","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4306391,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ansel Adams used to tilt the plate is his cameras in order to get his entire photo in focus at once, regardless of the depth of field. Now we all just go to the highest f stop value possible and shoot for the best. Alternatively some with set up with a tripod, and take 10 photos of the same exact scene with different focus points, and blend them all into one picture in photoshop. Others hate the concept and prefer a visual reference to the depth of field with an area clearly in focus and an area that is clearly not. This then begs the question, is focus better long range or up close?
I played around with the concept a bit. I took two pictures, one just as far back as possible, and then another on the close foreground. I did this trying to see which style I liked better. Personally I like the foreground in focus, but the other person I asked preferred the shot with the background in focus.

so what do you guys think? do you have a preference? Or do you like the Incel Adams "everything in focus" approach?

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Sounds like you need to get your hands on a monorail camera, so you can play around with tilt, swing, and shift. It really opens up a huge world of possibilities. Photography becomes a lot more technical, but that's not a bad thing.

Aaaand just so you know... You can buy backplates that will adapt your digital camera to your view camera! No need to futz around with expensive sheet film.

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Where's the fun in that?","attachment":null,"posted":1713997757},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307372,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306391
>>4306392
I prefer the second, it feels as if you're actually there under the tree covering peering out at the waterfall. I imagine that's what you were doing while you were there, not looking around at the leaves. I would perhaps selectively darken the foreground a little bit so it's more of a distinct frame (could be tedious), that's the impression the thumbnail gives but then you enlarge it and the effect isn't as strong.

While I agree that a shallow depth of field is a crutch to many people it's also a vital tool, it can direct the viewers gaze and make the rest less distracting. Of course you should try and get the best composition you can but sometimes you get what you get. Also our eyes don't have an infinite depth of field so it goes part way to replicating that. Sure if you're looking out onto a landscape there's not much specific you'll be focussing on with other stuff in the foreground and background. But if I hold up something in front of my right now my eyes are focussed on that and my monitor a foot away in the background is out of focus.","attachment":null,"posted":1713997792},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306391
>but the other person I asked
there was no other person you asked. you're some shutin who is too afraid to talk to people in real life so you're forced to make low effort threads like this, because you've been spending your entire life doing retarded shit like this on plebbit hoping to farm karma, but forgot no such thing exists here","attachment":null,"posted":1713998576},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307374
Id give him an updoot. At the very least this isn't another gear thread, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1713998980},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307486,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307374
weird projection","attachment":null,"posted":1714051895},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307514,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307377
If you read between the lines he's shilling for tilt-shift lenses or alternatively, bellows","attachment":null,"posted":1714059624},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307514
No that's just me. I want more people to shoot large format and post it on fgt. I shill it for the love not the money.","attachment":null,"posted":1714059844},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307520,"name":"4x5 dude is a zoophile","msg":">>4307516
your snapshits and constant reddit tier comments actually made me never want to shoot 4x5.","attachment":null,"posted":1714060441},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307521,"name":"4x5 dude is cool","msg":">>4307520
Your weird obsession with animal rape makes me want to shoot 4x5 dog photos just to make you implode with seethe.","attachment":null,"posted":1714060912},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307523,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307521
He's obsessed with reddit as well! Lol!","attachment":null,"posted":1714061058},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307521
Look at what is achievable using a 4x5 camera! Isn't this simply remarkable?

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Thanks man I appreciate the feedback","attachment":null,"posted":1714142454},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307753,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307374
Go be a gay faggot somewhere else","attachment":null,"posted":1714142515},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307754,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306392
go to f8, don't need to make the foreground that blurry, it gets distracting then","attachment":null,"posted":1714143610},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4307806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306391
both shots are shit but the first one is WAY BETTER than the second one.

second shot with everything in focus is too busy especially in your case where every fucking thing in the image is the same color, same shape and all bunched up together. only an artless retard would prefer the second shot over the first one","attachment":null,"posted":1714153418},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4308024,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307806

Yeah, because blurring the only interesting thing in the scene is "art"","attachment":null,"posted":1714220026},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4310621,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306402
For me it’s the Cambo Actus.

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>>4306392
It's just not a good photo

You should buy the 24-120 f4 vr for landscape photography in busy areas like woodlands, where it's sometimes impossible to zoom with your feet","attachment":null,"posted":1714931395},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4310643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310621
BASED. Is it worth slapping a dslr on the back of a view camera? The mounting backs are kinda pricey.","attachment":null,"posted":1714933644},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4310942,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310643
I am running canon mirrorless bodies on the back with mamiya medium format lenses….. Although I really want to grab a Fuji film GFX, but that multiplies the cost a lot…..using the setup for stop motion and Timelapse in my studio. Yeah the Cambo stuff is $$$.

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/tips-and-solutions/using-a-large-format-camera-to-make-digital-photographs

Searching for these 3D printed files. I imagine they are the authors home brew. Would be cool to adapt my next technical camera.","attachment":null,"posted":1715021625},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4310953,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310951
here is the one from the BH blog post.

https://standardcameras.com/products/the-standard-4x5-2-0

here's some others:
https://www.printables.com/search/models?q=4x5%20camera

https://thangs.com/search/4x5%20camera?scope=all&view=grid","attachment":null,"posted":1715022102},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4310972,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310622
Yeah I know it’s bad. I’m just fucking around with foreground/background blur from extreme distance differences and its impact on the outcome of the photo.

Neither one of these are going to be printed or published. It’s just to start a discussion of what the role of a foreground should be. A frame for the background? What if it’s the subject instead? Or is anale Adams the best answer of “fuck it everything is in focus”
Which aesthetic choice do you like better? Which do you use? Can you provide examples with pictures you’ve taken?","attachment":null,"posted":1715026281},{"board":"p","thread":4306391,"pid":4310974,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307535
>Isn't this simply remarkable?
nah","attachment":null,"posted":1715027009}]} {"title":"Ask someone buying their first Snoy today anything","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4306443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Got a good bonus at work and decided to finally retire my Canon 6D. Will be going Sony after seeing what the mirrorless landscape looks like with CaNikon.

Canon, makes decent bodies and fantastic lenses, that R8 is probably the best entry level FF camera you can get. Still gatekeeping RF mount and will no doubt cripple R bodies to protect the cinema line. Lenses are probably the best but almost double the price of Snoys in my meme country.

Nikon, feels the best to me in hand and I really like the RAWs the most. Menus and AF settings make the most sense but no real Z mount 16-35 f2.8 equivalent and the pro-grade 50mm being the size of a 24-70 is a big loss since those are my two most lenses.

Sony, looks like the logical choice. Bodies have everything you could need crammed into them, native lenses are a good balance between perfect optical quality and being corrected by software means I don't carry around any too big or heavy. I like being able to buy an A7S/FX3 in the future if I wanted to get serious with vid. Colors/skin tones don't seem to be oversharpened/saturated like before. Ergonomics aren't the best and you do get the stigma of being another zoomer buying a Sony to shoot zoomer things but hey, it is what it is.

Pic related, hopefully me with my Snoy A7IV.

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A7IV sucks for vids with the backplate being plastic instead of magnesium. Blame Snoy for cheaping out on Playstation quality. If you care about video instead of stills, spend more or wait and pray for next gen. If you already have a plan for A7S/FX3 why not got them now? Getting something you don't want now is always inefficient with photography.","attachment":null,"posted":1713748178},{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4306449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306444
My current work now is 95% stills and I'm still learning video so I don't want to buy an FX3 and be like wtf am I doing. I shoot weddings and events now but I have some other areas I'm looking at where I think video content would be what I want to make instead of stills.

Would rather get an A7IV and get building the lens collection and then upgrade to one of their vid centric offerings when I know where I'm hitting the limitations of the A7IV and have a better idea of what will be the next body to give me what I need.","attachment":null,"posted":1713748995},{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4307171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306443

snoy user actually rate lenses?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713934303909245.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-04-24 at 07-46-57 Sony FE 50mm F1.8.png"},"posted":1713934303},{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4307195,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306449
You could look at finding a decent used A1, would be cheaper than A7IV + FX3 together.
Would be better for stills and video than A7IV, especially with the new fw update, though FX3 being a dedicated video camera btfos it in usability on that front, even if downsampled video from the A1 sensor would technically be sharper.","attachment":null,"posted":1713944277},{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4307202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I use mine for video all the time but I must have taken a total of 10 pictures on it. It's a tool I need for work. But if I ever go out I grab my xt5.

One thing I'll say is whatever waterproofing problems they used to have those things are sealed tight now.
I shot a mermaid themed opera (don't ask) and had the thing splashed like 10 dozen times. Works fine half a year later. My old Nikon used to go out for repair at least once a year.","attachment":null,"posted":1713953787},{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4307214,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306443
For what it’s worth, the 14-30 f/4 and 14-24 f/2.8 Z lenses are both incredible. And you can use the Sony 50 1.2 GM on a Nikon body seamlessly with a Megadap ETZ21 adapter, that’s what I do. Agree with you about the size of the Nikkor being a bummer. I really like the Sony 50. So you could have the best of both worlds.","attachment":null,"posted":1713959742},{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4307216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307214
And you won’t need to buy a video-centric body if you get a Z8.","attachment":null,"posted":1713959840},{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4307237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307195
i actually prefer the look of images taken with a7iv sensor.

a good/bad lens makes or breaks the image quality but no matter which lens you put on a1, the images always look digital/robotic... idk how to explain it. they look like AI made them","attachment":null,"posted":1713966898},{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4311050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"OP here, I got a better deal at the store on an open box A7RV so I went with it instead of the A7IV. So far I am pretty happy with my choice, I'm going camping this weekend so I'm taking it alongside the 16-35 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 GM to do some astro and landscapes.

The AF is what has impressed me the most, that AI chip really works even when my subject looks away. I have a black dog and it still manages to keep the AF on its eye surrounded by black fur. The files seem great, heard that the AI chip in this helps nailing white balance and desu I've not had to manually tweak it in Lightroom. I've also shot photos of people and the skin tones seem fine, no ugly shift to yellow or green or magenta. I'm using a few profiles in LR to see what works the best.

I'm also looking forward to picking up the smaller 1.4 primes down the line as well. I've got zero interest in carrying around that huge Nikkor or Cannot 1.2's so I think Snoy's approach of getting good enough optically and fixing the rest via software is good for most normies like me.

Nothing really retarded stands out to me yet- menus are fine, probably if you want to customise everything then you'll not like it but I find it alright.","attachment":null,"posted":1715040495},{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4311052,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311050
>snoy
Keep us updated through your HRT","attachment":null,"posted":1715040654},{"board":"p","thread":4306443,"pid":4311076,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311052
OP here, just took my Snoy CFexpress tough HRT with my AI autodilation. I am glad to finally be a real woman! No weather sealing down there with the surgery but I'll be ok!!!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715045244692969.jpg","filename":"2JaUdmj.jpg"},"posted":1715045244}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4306656,"pid":4306656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"pictures from a recent trip

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If this is a self portrait, that’s a gigachad McHugeballs move to open the thread with it. If not then pretty gay.","attachment":null,"posted":1713820025},{"board":"p","thread":4306656,"pid":4306687,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306674
everyone on /p/ looks like that with varying degrees of beard and bald desu","attachment":null,"posted":1713821657},{"board":"p","thread":4306656,"pid":4306716,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306656
Where did you go, anon?","attachment":null,"posted":1713830188},{"board":"p","thread":4306656,"pid":4306718,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306716
Spain, fgt.","attachment":null,"posted":1713830377},{"board":"p","thread":4306656,"pid":4306778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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careful now Chuck Noland","attachment":null,"posted":1713863022},{"board":"p","thread":4306656,"pid":4306878,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306716
I went to Tenerife, didn't see many beaches but hiked up the highest peak in Spain.","attachment":null,"posted":1713873160},{"board":"p","thread":4306656,"pid":4310825,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"bump I'm not letting a photo thread be pushed off by a gear thread","attachment":null,"posted":1714979748},{"board":"p","thread":4306656,"pid":4310986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"cool thread, anon. thanks for sharing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715030067}]} {"title":"jpeg recovery tool that isnt a money grab","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4304301,"pid":4304301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have an old jpeg thats corrupted that im trying to open. The last 6 apps i've tried display the pic, but either output it as a tiny thumbnail, or heavily watermark the image to the point of ruining it.

Does anyone know of an app that's free that is actually free to fix busted jpegs? Thanks, anons","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713121283686716.jpg","filename":"cashmoney.jpg"},"posted":1713121283},{"board":"p","thread":4304301,"pid":4304405,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"r-photo is one of the better free options
most free options in this category kinda suck","attachment":null,"posted":1713149322},{"board":"p","thread":4304301,"pid":4304711,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304405
unless I'm retarded, that appears to be an app to recover deleted stuff. I'm looking for something that fix's jpegs that are corrupted, not deleted. That, or I'm too stupid to use it properly???","attachment":null,"posted":1713234675},{"board":"p","thread":4304301,"pid":4304773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304711
>I'm too stupid
yes
also
>>>/g/","attachment":null,"posted":1713252102},{"board":"p","thread":4304301,"pid":4304987,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304773
I debated that before posting, but it seems like the photog anons should have some experience in this realm. Besides, /g/ is too broad. If you guys can't come back with anything, I'll try over there...","attachment":null,"posted":1713301334},{"board":"p","thread":4304301,"pid":4306409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304711
gimp?
>open image
>click save as","attachment":null,"posted":1713739463},{"board":"p","thread":4304301,"pid":4310786,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306409
You know nothing.
When a JPEG image is corrupt, no application will open it. You need special software to repair the file as it is a heavily compressed format reliant on decompression to deliver the pixels. If something in the chain breaks, the file is "bricked" from normal programs point of view, but recovery software can detect where errors rise and you can replace bad data to fix the problems.
A few bad bits can brick a JPEG. Fixing those bits will fix the file, you might lose some 8x8 blocks but the rest can be fine. GIMP won't help with this. GIMP is what you'd use after repair to then edit out the missing blocks to fill in the missing pixels.","attachment":null,"posted":1714964192},{"board":"p","thread":4304301,"pid":4310787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310786
so far he knows more than you since he's actually recommended software that is free of charge and by your own admission is able to fix busted jpegs","attachment":null,"posted":1714964964},{"board":"p","thread":4304301,"pid":4310841,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304301
Try photorec. It might not be able to fix it but it will definitely be able to find a copy of the file within the disk that was temporarily created while moving or editing or viewing since all the software creates temp versions of files while accessing it. Chances are that at least one of the recovered copies might not be damaged","attachment":null,"posted":1714992462},{"board":"p","thread":4304301,"pid":4310966,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310787
I know English is not your first language, but consider using a translator.
GIMP does not fix busted JPEGs
GIMPO NO EL FIXO LA JPEGGOS PUTA MADRE

GIMP won't even open a busted JPEG. It just gives you an error.","attachment":null,"posted":1715024915}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305779,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You can't tell me one real pro of crop sensors. There's absolutely no point of APS-C when full frame exists. It's not as small, compact or economical as micro four thirds nor do you get the resolution and capability of FF. I guess it's just so that people can feel like they're larping as FF. FF is isn't even that much more expensive most of the time so being a poorfag is the only excuse

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Correct, nowadays only full frame and M43 makes sense.
APS-C is pure copium","attachment":null,"posted":1713550267},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305781,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Reach?","attachment":null,"posted":1713550484},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305785,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
what it is, is obsolete. there was a time when even flagship DSLR were APS-C because that was the biggest sensor anybody could fit into a hand-holdable camera without overheating or costing 6 figures. then, for a long time after FF camera did exist, they cost 2x the price of a APS-C with identical features.
that was all a long time ago.","attachment":null,"posted":1713551212},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305786,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305785
You can't show me a single example where FF and APS-C come out to the same price WITH glass. APS-C is more affordable while providing comparable output","attachment":null,"posted":1713551398},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The canon r7 (and 90d) has a finer pixel pitch than any mft camera except the gh6/g9ii while not making the crop mandatory AND maintaining compatibility with the same great EF and RF lenses that also work on your full frame camera.
So canon APS-C has a point. A great point. Especially if you can afford two cameras.

Fuji? No point. The quality is actually nearly WORSE than micro four thirds because xtrans is worse for bayer for the same reasons bayer is worse than foveon. You need to throw FF money at a 40mp model to have it be almost as good as a $750 A7III. Almost as weather sealed, too! Just buy a full frame camera holy shit the x-t4 is even overpriced as fuck and if you ever shop for a used x-h1 you will notice the first 5-10 listings are always broken - thats because fujis arent weather sealed. Even the fucking GFX is so non-sealed you can shine a flashlight at a dial and see the circuit board.
Sony APS-C? Well, it's kind of like a worse canon R7, just like snoy is like worse canon. Canon and Nikon are still the only real choices for full frame.
Nikon APS-C? An actual fucking joke. Holy shit. Well, the APS-C *DSLRS* are ok, if you get them cheap enough, but not the mirrorless. Nikon is a full frame brand through and through.","attachment":null,"posted":1713551425},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305788,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’m not a pro so I but any camera I want as a toy","attachment":null,"posted":1713551602},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305790,"name":"cANON sANS tRIP","msg":">>4305781
>>4305787
This","attachment":null,"posted":1713551729},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305787
>because fujis arent weather sealed
That's not entirely true","attachment":null,"posted":1713551782},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i don't need full frame because i only post on Instagram so no need to overpay.","attachment":null,"posted":1713552027},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305794,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305791
It's entirely true

It's very easy to find stories of "My X-something got rained on, and now fuji says it needs a new motherboard!" and very hard to find similar stories for a nikon z6, an olympus om-1, a canon r-something, ANY pentax, etc, unless it was a case of gross abuse, like full immersion (and even then pentax cameras are known to survive this - fuji's ARENT)
https://www.reddit.com/r/fujifilm/comments/10sefvs/failed_xt5_weather_sealing/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fujifilm/comments/yh00ph/weather_resistant_weather_sealed/
https://www.reddit.com/r/fujifilm/comments/1b7d2ob/xt5_is_totaled_what_do_i_do/
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3978298
Fuji cameras just aren't consistently reliable. It's similar to all the dead sony cameras. Some retard says "mine worked" but that's just because water got in but didn't touch anything critical - they randomly die. Pentax cameras don't. Nikon cameras don't. Olympus cameras don't. If not submerged or used with a non-WR lens attached it basically never happens. Fuji is less common and yet has more failures.

Remember "the x100v is sealed just buy this filter"? Someone did, and the camera literally filled with water.
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4657904

Fujicope: "resistant i-is not sealed ;_;"

You want a durable camera? fuji is trash, buy a pentax DSLR, or anything but fuji/sony. Apparently fuji/sony IBIS units also lock up in the cold while nikon Zs, OM-1s, and pentax K-1s are having no issues in alaska... must just be the build quality.","attachment":null,"posted":1713552866},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305794
can we see some example photos of yours that required proper weather sealing to take?","attachment":null,"posted":1713553028},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305797,"name":"cANON sANS tRIP","msg":">>4305794","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713553254300194.jpg","filename":"baseddepartment.jpg"},"posted":1713553254},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305795
Is this how fooljislugs defend paying z6ii prices for a7ii quality?

FYI NEVER POST FOR THEM. They want to target you for harassment like the hairy negatives guy. Huskyfag posted for a fujislug and the slug spent the rest of the thread trying to mock him.","attachment":null,"posted":1713553320},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305798
for all the talk of weather sealing, look how irrelevant it is for everyone in the rpt threads
i just want to see some examples of good weather sealing being put to use, given how important everyone makes it seem

i post all the time, never got harassed","attachment":null,"posted":1713554037},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305801,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305800
>i post all the time, never got harassed
You don't post when prompted by someone angry at you","attachment":null,"posted":1713554092},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305808,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305794
Some Fujis are WR some are not","attachment":null,"posted":1713555203},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305795
>can we see some example photos of yours that required proper weather sealing to take?
His silence is deafening","attachment":null,"posted":1713555270},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305811,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305801
of course i do, im not a hypocrite
im just not a nophoto","attachment":null,"posted":1713556051},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305817,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305809
Because this >>4305798 actually did happen. It poisoned “post photo” as did someone trying to dox cinefag. At least in the context of fuji arguments - the original shitshow was because huskyfag called the gfx50 a scam, as did cinefag, and it was then noticed that “post photo” only occurs when it is noted that fujifilm cameras are unusually bad.","attachment":null,"posted":1713556685},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305820,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305795
does it matter? cameras get rained on between photos as well.

this matters:
other cameras that cost a similar amount of money have better build quality and higher image quality than fuji. fact.

open and shut case. dont buy fujishit.","attachment":null,"posted":1713557263},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305821,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305820
>fuji logic: i paid $2000 for a camera that will break if its get wet and it doesnt matter because you dont have 5 photos taken mid downpour.
>olympus logic: i paid that much for my entire kit including lenses and it matters because my camera got wet while i kayaked across a lake and survived. same image quality btw.","attachment":null,"posted":1713557612},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305828,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305820
>other cameras that cost a similar amount of money have better build quality and higher image quality than fuji. fact.
Prove it","attachment":null,"posted":1713558464},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305831,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305828
Fuji’s owner fooljis already did >>4305794

You just dont see this “weather resistant is not weather sealed” cope and accompanying horror stories if its not fuji or sony. Sorry. They want nearly two grand for their newest model. Might as well save money for another week and buy a zf","attachment":null,"posted":1713559083},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305838,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305820
100% true
still think fuji's weather sealing is adequate enough for most
i can find any amount of weather sealing failures or successes with any brand, don't put much faith in a handful of anecdotes
i just want to see these poor weather photos that are such a priority for the people here
without those, it just kinda feels like people complaining just to complain
hell, if people post some, i'll even post some of my own adverse weather shots too","attachment":null,"posted":1713559810},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305846,"name":"cANON sANS tRIP","msg":">>4305838
The photo is just the final result, maybe it's the path to it that requires weather sealing. Maybe you need to go under a waterfall. Maybe you need to go on sub zero conditions while setting up the shoot.","attachment":null,"posted":1713560827},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305849,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305838
Can you? Find as many for nikon flagships. D750, D800, D810, D850, Z6/II, Z7/II, etc. theres more cameras over more time so it should be simple. Fuji has a fraction of the history trying to make high end gear.

You can also choose modern canon flagships.

Basic rules against user negligence:
No immersion
No saltwater
Lens must be truly WR, not “sony wr” (labeled wr with no ass gasket)

Go!","attachment":null,"posted":1713561037},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305850,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Pro: they're small. My Ricoh GRIII exists. I'll take it.

Aside from that I agree with your points. I just edited a second shooter's take from a gig I was working, he was using a Fuji XT-4... wow. Dogshit. The pictures are fine enough, but wow, that camera is not doing him any favors.","attachment":null,"posted":1713561161},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What APS-C camera would you guys recommend then","attachment":null,"posted":1713562768},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305858,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305821
can you post your mico 4 sharts pics? i see a lot of shit taking about fuji but 0 pics posted","attachment":null,"posted":1713563585},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305860,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305850
I've always wondered how slim Sony could have got the RX1 if they had put a collapsible f/2.8 on it, the body alone is as slim as the GR","attachment":null,"posted":1713563889},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305861,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305858
never post for an angry fujislug","attachment":null,"posted":1713563902},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305865,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305858
Their silence is deafening","attachment":null,"posted":1713563983},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305870,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305860
Yeah my colleague had that camera, it seemed like a really great camera marred by a horrible UI/UX and so-so autofocus.

Wish somebody would revisit that idea besides Leica with their Q cameras.","attachment":null,"posted":1713565159},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305893,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305849
sure thing, i'll get started on finding those anectdotes for you, once you post some of your weather sealing successes photos","attachment":null,"posted":1713571361},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305893
Does not follow. Either fuji is the same as others or worse and therefore not something that should be purchased.","attachment":null,"posted":1713571634},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305905,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305895
Fuji has better colour than Sony","attachment":null,"posted":1713574746},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305906,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
ok.","attachment":null,"posted":1713575450},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305895
already said 100% true to
>other cameras that cost a similar amount of money have better build quality and higher image quality than fuji. fact.
still waiting on those photos","attachment":null,"posted":1713575796},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305917,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305905
>special olympics winner","attachment":null,"posted":1713578649},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305946,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305907
Not him but i never take photos that are obviously in the rain, but my camera still gets rained on.","attachment":null,"posted":1713587182},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305950,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
>what's the point of aps-c
So poorfags can get into actual photography? Otherwise, it's just a stepping stone into FF.
>micro fool turds
LOL The average person trying to get into the hobby doesn't know or even heard about it so they would get nikon/sony/canon/fuji aps-c instead","attachment":null,"posted":1713589321},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305951,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305795
>photos
>on /p/
Madman","attachment":null,"posted":1713589526},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
rebels are the gateway drug to $5K+ kits to take pics of your cat","attachment":null,"posted":1713589893},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305953,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
as a FF chad who also shoots medium format film, m4/3 is the only other format that has some appeal to me. something like the pen-f just looks fun. apsc looks like a downgrade from my ff digi in every single way and is barely smaller. whats the fucking point LOL","attachment":null,"posted":1713590090},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305968,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305951
lol'd","attachment":null,"posted":1713599519},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4305986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305780
>nowadays only full frame and M43
Problem is nowadays m43 bodies are full frame sized. If Lumix don't put out a small body this year I'm selling my m43 lens collection","attachment":null,"posted":1713609507},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306063,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305986
Get an OM?","attachment":null,"posted":1713634648},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305986
Get an S5 II","attachment":null,"posted":1713634759},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306066,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305780
Yes, if you are a gearfag with a collectors mindset, because m43 is sufficiently different from your existing collection, and aps-c is not.

Basically APS-C is for people who can't afford and don't want to carry full frame but still want nicer photos. APS-C is for the man that buys one camera and uses it.
Full frame is for people that prioritize image quality and versatility more still and have money to burn
When micro four thirds is not for poor people and guys who literally have disabilities and can not carry much more weight, it's for the full frame sorts of people rounding out their growing collection. The market is aware of this which is why olympus is overpriced and panasonic is making $2000 camcorders that appeal more to the spec sheet enthusiast than a real videographer.","attachment":null,"posted":1713634936},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Guys, here's an idea...
What if people put APS-C sensors into MFT bodies?????
Better performance, slightly bigger image circle (capture vignetting, let you choose your preferred crop (3:2, or 4:3, or 1:1, take your pick)

how would this NOT be a great idea?
biggest deterrent to buying APS-C is it is a flawed system with lens mounts and a weird crop factor
if the sensors were behind a universal lens mount like MFT it would be incredibly based as fuck IMO","attachment":null,"posted":1713636211},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306088,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306083
Why not put a full frame sensor into full frame bodies instead","attachment":null,"posted":1713636671},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306090,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306088
Full frame sensors in mft bodies
Its called the sony a7c","attachment":null,"posted":1713637058},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306094,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306083
Many 3p mft lenses are actually aps-c, I'm sure panasonic and olympus would be thrilled to send more sales their way.","attachment":null,"posted":1713638790},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306121,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
You can't tell me one real pro of FF sensors. There's absolutely no point of full frame when medium format exists. It's not as small, compact or economical as APS-C nor do you get the resolution and capability of MF. I guess it's just so that people can feel like they're larping as MF. MF isn't even that much more expensive most of the time so being a poorfag is the only excuse","attachment":null,"posted":1713647180},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306123,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306121
Only crop sensor copers, especially in gear circlejerks, say this specifically because it's clear to everyone else that MF lacks the capability. It's not like Nikon is making a well made MF. hasselblad is rattly chinese shit, fuji is rattly chinese shit and all of the lenses are equivalently slow (and a bit soft wide open), the hardware capability outside of simple imaging is a decade behind entry level FF, and it's not even real medium format. You have to spend $XX,XXX on phase one gear to get real medium format that's actually well made and those cameras are essentially fully manual 1fps studio darlings.

Despite all our technology people don't seem to give a shit over full frame.","attachment":null,"posted":1713647394},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306123
Full frame is cool today because display technology hasn't even caught up to FF yet. Just barely. 4k is about where you can barely, barely tell sensor sizes and sensor resolutions apart, sometimes.

Also, very few people are printing posters.

Who here has an 8k display so you can view an A7IV in its full glory? If you do you're one of the few people who might be able to tell 100mp fake medium format from a Z7II/A7RV without cropping out over half the image.","attachment":null,"posted":1713647589},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306131,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306123
>>4306124
Now you two spend your time here while I'll be taking MF raws and APSC jpg snapshits for the rest of my life.","attachment":null,"posted":1713650002},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306131
Post cameras
Post photos

>>4306123
Well made crop medium format died with pentax. RIP.","attachment":null,"posted":1713650534},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306143,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
>It's not as small, compact or economical as micro four thirds
EOS M was.

>nor do you get the resolution and capability of FF
In good light you do get the resolution of FF for the same sensor MP. A 24mp FF will be sharper ooc than a 24mp aps-c, but extinction resolution is the same because Nyquist is the limiting factor. In good light you can sharpen aps-c in post without fucked up noise.

In poor light you're fucked. FF is cleaner and sharper and if you try to match one you fuck the other in post with crop. aps-c is also fucked against high resolution FF on big prints.

>NO REASON!
Economics. Most people will never need more than aps-c.","attachment":null,"posted":1713653005},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
I do astrophotography and dont have a ton of money. by using a crop sensor I increase my effective focal length while not sacrificing resolution. APS-C sensors have better pixel density, or at least mine does and most current models do. because I chose a smaller physical sensor size, all my lenses were cheaper. I was also able to get a DSLR that was still as lightweight as a mirror less full frame.
there is a minor downside to my sensor size in that typically I collect less light, but this doesn't even matter for me (and astrophotography is the lowest light photography there is).
if I had gone full frame, I simply would have spent twice as much money getting started.","attachment":null,"posted":1713662589},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306180,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306143
>sharpness is a slider
thanks mr. rockwell","attachment":null,"posted":1713668272},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306181,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306166
What camera do you use?","attachment":null,"posted":1713668900},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305787
>TFW recently bought a 90D at a discount instead of a FF for way more
I feel validated. I love this thing like you wouldn't believe.","attachment":null,"posted":1713685402},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"FF sensors and cameras are better because are designed with the pro market in mind, but are a bit bigger and heavier (except like a7c) and way more expensive.
Same for FF lenses and aps-c ones! The advantage of aps-c is that there are a lot more lenses, many are decent and extremelly cheap and this allows you to experimentate.
Moreover with aps-c you have a 1.5x and decent quality lightweight tele for cheap. There are several good pancakes, so you can have several pokettable setups.

Overall, if you are a pro (or a fanatic) it makes perfectly sense to invest in a FF coupled with a couple of high end lenses. You will pay more than 5k probably gut you will have a spot on specialized setup. If you are a newbie that want to experiment and learn or if you are an hobbyist with no huge needs, aps-c is way way more convenient because let you try many many different things before, in case, going FF if needed.

M43 for me is not an option because it's 4:3 (eww) but another thing to consider is that there are no interoperability between M34 and a-psc/FF in case of an upgrade. E or Z mounts are interoperable and this is good. Moreover, lots of third party m43 lenses are actually adapted aps-c ones.

Optically, the relativelly justified hype for FF is about the shallow depth of field that you cannot really achieve with aps-c let alone with M43. The other objective advantage of FF is if you are into wide angles. The widest FF is 10mm while the widest aps-c is 13.5 (it's a lot at there apertures).
Electronically, the bigger is the single photodetector the better for noise! Pixel density is important hence FF have an advantage here, but aps-c quality (but also M43 desu) is so good that it's not really important aside very specialized cases.
Bigger photodetectors also mean a sharper image for optical reasons because sharpness is proportional to the ratio of photodetecto size/circle of confusion size.","attachment":null,"posted":1713703126},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306224
>FF is more than 5k!
Where
Australia? Lol.

Z6II or A7III: $1000
24-120 f4 S or 24-105 f4 G: $700-900
Some S line or G line prime: $500
Do you need more? The zoom is overkill for most people here who would prefer to just buy a second cheap prime, and hundreds can be saved by going with tamron E mount lenses or nikon F mount+ftz.
Hundreds more can be saved (well over $500) if you are good enough to use a DSLR.","attachment":null,"posted":1713708455},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306235
FF is expensive is a codeword for “i like birds and mtf charts” or “i like fast zooms and mtf charts”
A birding tele or wedding lens is <$1000 but native to mirrorless its $2500… plus, and normally comes with friends.","attachment":null,"posted":1713708553},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306243,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306235

>Do you need more?

No, infact I use aps-c for personal use. On that price range yuo can get almost the same results (except the afomentioned optical considerations) with an aps-c like the a6600 and a tamron zoom plus random primes.
If you really whant to enjoy the quality gap between aps-c and FF you have to spend quite more on lenses.

Funfact, you would have similar result mounting those FF lenses on aps-c but it wouldn't make much sense.","attachment":null,"posted":1713709614},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306243
No, you really dont. f4 wide ranging zooms are without equal on crop. As are any autofocus primes that are around f2 and sharp wide open.

There’s also the ISO advantage and photosite size advantage for sharpness and good colors at high ISO, and photosite COUNT advantage, there is no real high resolution crop sensor. Fuji has 40mp with a 2/3 resolution cut from wormtrans. Used a7rivs are heading towards $1500.","attachment":null,"posted":1713711523},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306257,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306243
you absolutely do not need to spend a lot on lenses to afford ff. rather you’d need to spend as much on lenses for slightly worse results to match that on aps-c. which is totally pointless.","attachment":null,"posted":1713711631},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306258,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I had a6000, a6400, i tried a6600 and a7ii and a7c with different lenses. Previously I used nikon with similar results.
My experience is mostly what I reported.

>>4306257
I agree with this, but on the pricetag specified by >>4306236 the two formats are very similr. >>4306256 is true about the advantages, but they barelly justify the increase in price and size for regular people, imho.","attachment":null,"posted":1713712306},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306261,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306258
The thing about shooting equivalently on apsc is the size and price is the same unless you give up weather sealing and anything resembling sharp lenses with good rendering and use sone e-waste apsc lenses and non-l plastishit cannot gear.

Consumer system is consumer. Save one extra overtime shifts pay and buy a used FF. $2000 = z6ii and two S primes.","attachment":null,"posted":1713712793},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306262,"name":"cinefag","msg":">>4305779
They're better at making kino","attachment":null,"posted":1713712952},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306278,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306243
>If you really whant to enjoy the quality gap between aps-c and FF you have to spend quite more on lenses.
>Funfact, you would have similar result mounting those FF lenses on aps-c
Full frame is much less demanding of lens sharpness at the same resolution, and you get more resolution at the same pixel density. You're going to need a pretty sharp lens to make use of a 24mp+ APS-C sensor but it doesn't take anything particularly special to get a sharp image on a full frame sensor of the same resolution. Even a 42mp full frame sensor is only as demanding as an 18mp crop sensor.","attachment":null,"posted":1713715444},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
lens and wildlife photography/sports action. 1.5 crop magnification factor is significant for lens reach.","attachment":null,"posted":1713716370},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306283,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306282
The look you get from digital magnification is not very different from a 1.4x teleconverter, ISO bump included. On the other hand, how do you un-TC your crop sensor? Autofocus speedboosters are not commonplace and soften lenses. If you're like 99.999999999% of people it's better to buy a full frame camera and just keep TCs in mind if you ever buy a fuckhuge telephoto lens.","attachment":null,"posted":1713716484},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306284,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306258
I considered going APS-C ones and basically >>4306261 that.

The lenses I would use are the same size, same price, and wouldnt even be the same thing equivalently, and there is no equivalence between large and small pixels or 24mp and 45mp or bayer and xtrans, the cameras are fundamentally different.

The R7, an FF sized body that is best used with FF lenses, is all that makes sense and only if you lean hard into birds and sports. Otherwise mft has appeal as a toy camera but FF is king.","attachment":null,"posted":1713716595},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306278

This is true, but even the stock 55-210 sony zoom on the old 6400 is enought to produce acceptable results for a hobbyist that can be printed on a 50x30 having printing quality as a bottleneck.

That said, yes, FF is better than aps-c because FF systems are designed to be better + they have some tecnical advantages","attachment":null,"posted":1713718020},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306292,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306290
>a6400 with 55-210, 50x30
Post a photo of this print

I know a lot of 30+ boomers have bad eyesight and very low standards for physical photography (it's almost like they prefer blurry prints) so I wonder if ken rockwells are not a myth. 30- boomers have sharper eyes and easily hold prints to more fine art-like standards.","attachment":null,"posted":1713718179},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306292

I've not said that the print extremely sharp, i said it is a bottleneck. 50x30 on photopaper (the laboratories around me uses enlargers with digital projectors) is around 20€ and it's not extremelly sharp. The typographic print on good matte cotton paper is about 50-100€ here. Put the framing on top and you can easily see that for an hobbyist the photo paper is ok.

I can also assure you that once you are on your cough and you look at a pic on the wall, sharpness doesn't really matter that much. I also have a couple of advertising posters in cmyk halfone that are pretty good. In general color fidelity in printing is better than a sharpness. =)","attachment":null,"posted":1713725946},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306348,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306344
The print shops around me use digital RA-4/"lightjet" printing and offer museum grade papers and framing.

I don't mind holding prints to a sharpness standard when people can stand as close or far away as they want, especially after spending $1k+ on a camera.","attachment":null,"posted":1713726337},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306351,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306348

Just out of curiosity, how much do you pay for it. Just to know what I'm missing living in a small town.","attachment":null,"posted":1713726992},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306354,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713727421548903.jpg","filename":"1625580479505.jpg"},"posted":1713727421},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306368,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306351
$2.40 for an 8x10, $23 for a 16x20, eventually getting up to $100 for a 50x30, on fujicolor crystal archive.

They charge nearly 10x that for using fine art papers. All actual silver halide papers intended for darkroom use.","attachment":null,"posted":1713729174},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306180
>noooooo you can't use an unsharp mask!
This will blow your mind: the unsharp mask is named "unsharp mask" because the algorithm does the same thing as an "unsharp mask" in the darkroom:
https://www.largeformatphotography.info/unsharp/","attachment":null,"posted":1713736022},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306648,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why are there so many MFT cameras that cost the same as FF","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713817915789603.png","filename":"1699835194396781.png"},"posted":1713817915},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306700,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306648
They promise gay little crutches so you can seethe when people with a7iis and DSLRs are taking the same BIF shots
A fool turd and his money are soon parted","attachment":null,"posted":1713824024},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306702,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306700
>yah bro m-my om-1ii has bird detect 0 blackout 40fps…and if you put it in this af mode the speed goes up to… this lens here has more reach than any ff and no it is not a sigma it clearly says om system…
>some guy with a canon 6d and a 100-400L… version one: *CLACK. CLACK. CLACK. CLACK.* holy shit, i got the shot!","attachment":null,"posted":1713824995},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306648
wait till you see their fucking lenses","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713831351803597.png","filename":"1705335160016272.png"},"posted":1713831351},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306744,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306722
Lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1713835196},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4306750,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306722
Where did you get this picture of muh dick?!","attachment":null,"posted":1713837730},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306283
>digital magnification

the crop factor is native, it's not digital zoom.

>muh teleconverter.

stfu dumb dumb. not only can two play that game, but people don't want to fuck up their photos. professional wildlife photographers shoot crop sensors.","attachment":null,"posted":1713899848},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307034,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307032
>it's not digital zoom
it is literally the same as aps-c mode on an a7riv. crop factor is digital magnification. like finer grained film, cut down to a smaller size before you even shoot it to approximate a larger sheet of less fine grained film.

i have seen multiple side by sides where teleconverters on full frame had the same look as crop sensors so why not just buy a teleconverter on FF instead of permamently crippling every lens because really, if you're not an MFTbabby shooting from their car you dont need more than 400mm 99% of the time","attachment":null,"posted":1713900379},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307034
To be fair there is a slight AF advantage to shooting crop versus full frame with a TC. In terms of the image sure, the light lost by the TC is made up for by the better noise performance of full frame, but full frame doesn't have more sensitive AF sensors than crop.

Also TCs cost money, so that's on top of the more expensive full frame body.","attachment":null,"posted":1713903400},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"my main setup is a snoy a6600 & sigma 24-70 f2.8 art. before I ever got the sigma, i fucked around with some adapted 50mm & 135mm super-takumar m42 lenses and found them pretty cool with the apsc crop factor allowwing me to push further into subjects.

The sigma resulted from me wanting to try a modern FF zoom lens. overall love the setup even if it isnt the best weight wise.","attachment":null,"posted":1713908660},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4306181
canon EOS rebel sl3","attachment":null,"posted":1713909992},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307117,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
One huge pro is that I already own a camera with a crop sensor. Also none of the clients I've taken for photography-related side gigs have ever complained about muh pixels on my photos. You can chase muh sharpness and muh resolution forever and buy every new generation of camera body, the quality of your photography isn't going to change and if you aren't frequently working jobs that demand those stats you're blowing that extra money for nothing.

>inb4 poorfag
This insult only wounds other gearfaggots, which is ironic since it's usually aimed at people outside of the gearfag circlejerk. Outing yourself as being clinically retarded with your hobby spending isn't the "gotcha" you think it is","attachment":null,"posted":1713918310},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307121,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307117
better cameras are better
+
you have no idea how rich we are here
>gamestop
>shitcoins","attachment":null,"posted":1713919215},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307247,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307034
>it is literally the same as aps-c mode

>literally

no. there are technical differences. even if it appears close to you.

>>4307034
>so why not just buy a teleconverter

people don't do this. There are technical factors why crop is better. lenses and sensor speed are big reasons. super 35 is still used in movie productions and that's barely bigger than APSC. The alexxa lf is a super 35 camera that costs 40k.","attachment":null,"posted":1713969494},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307247
People do buy TCs. Most accomplished wildlife photographers do ff+TCs instead of carrying a noisier, softer body built to lower standards all the time.

Only pentax and old, old nikon ever built aps-c to pro standards. Every other crop sensor camera sucks more, except the om-1/e-m1.","attachment":null,"posted":1713970958},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
yo","attachment":null,"posted":1714063069},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307034
>it is literally the same as aps-c mode on an a7riv. crop factor is digital magnification.
No it is not. Digital zoom/magnification means interpolating to achieve a larger view size/higher ppi at view size given a limited number of image pixels. Crop factor does not imply nor require interpolation.

If you have a 24mp FF and 24mp aps-c camera and you are reach limited such that you have to crop/enlarge the FF image, then the aps-c camera will have higher pixel density. At some point you either have to accept visible IQ loss on the FF image or interpolate to match. This is crop sensor reach advantage.

Now, if the pixel density is roughly the same between the two cameras...say a 61mp FF and 24mp aps-c...then there is no crop sensor reach advantage.

>i have seen multiple side by sides where teleconverters on full frame had the same look as crop sensors
If you put a 1.4x on a 24mp FF then yes, the output will be close enough to 1.5/1.6x aps-c that it mitigates the crop sensor reach advantage. Someone may prefer to do this, or they may prefer to have a second aps-c body.","attachment":null,"posted":1714085680},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307644,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4305795
Can we see some example offspring of yours that required proper reproductive organs to make?","attachment":null,"posted":1714096816},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307650,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4306083
Didn't Panasonic do that for a few of their models?","attachment":null,"posted":1714098307},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307652,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4306224
>it's 4:3 (eww)
What a fag.","attachment":null,"posted":1714099161},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307650
Yes, but they did it with mft and just made it barely bigger, just enough for it to be m43 size at the normal aspect.

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>>4307654
I think he's talking about the LX100, which uses a 4/3 sensor and a fixed lens and allows you to change the aspect ratio but maintain the field of view","attachment":null,"posted":1714100725},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307661,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714103513844031.jpg","filename":"regrett_061338.jpg"},"posted":1714103513},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307667,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307661
That could mean anything","attachment":null,"posted":1714105347},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307654
>>4307657
GH5s, GH2, and GH1 used slightly oversized (~7% size increase) sensors which are still smaller than APS-C while the rest of Panasoynic's """multi-aspect ratio""" sensors are literally cropping from the existing 4/3 sized sensor.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714105611463853.png","filename":"1689839559271318.png"},"posted":1714105611},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307669,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The GH2/1 were decent, but it was really only a difference of 7.4% in recording area compared to a normal 4/3 sensor.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714106163050314.png","filename":"1692723429690472.png"},"posted":1714106163},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"But then Panasoynic basically scammed people with the LX100's """multi-aspect ratio sensor""" with a base 17% sensor usage reduction in 4/3 still shooting, then further crop in video mode that's somehow even a smaller area than 1" cams.","attachment":null,"posted":1714106520},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307672,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307671","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714106581985306.png","filename":"1705138467722693.png"},"posted":1714106581},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307708,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4307043
>the better noise performance of full frame
That's only because of the larger photosites, a benefit taken away by projecting less light onto them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714127620},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4307709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307708
Yeah that's pretty much what I said, it evens out","attachment":null,"posted":1714128582},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4308026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
>Buy entry level aps-c to get into digishit photography
>Went with Canon in particular because it adapts easier to the old glass I already had
>Learn about the inherent limitations of the format after buying
>End up buying fat cunt 5D
>Smoll sensorlett camera lives on as dedicated telephoto lens holder that I only ever leave at home anyway, along with the 5d
Such is the life of a gearfag.","attachment":null,"posted":1714220990},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4308033,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307709
It doesnt even out. No real 45-61mp apsc","attachment":null,"posted":1714229134},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4308713,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307708
>That's only because of the larger photosites, a benefit taken away by projecting less light onto them.
FF has less noise due to higher SNR overall (larger surface area collecting more light). With gapless micro lenses pixel size is almost irrelevant. I say "almost" because it starts to become relevant at extreme ISOs (i.e. 50k and higher). Below that it's just not a significant factor. People like to point to the A7R V as a counter example, but the A7R IV has the same pixel density and doesn't break the pattern. Something else is going on in the V's electronics.

Now if the AF sensors are the same size and tech then yes, apsc will have a ~1ev AF advantage when a teleconverter is on FF. Same size/tech is not necessarily a safe assumption though as manufacturers like to throw their best into FF. And for mirrorless a FF AF sensor can be larger than an apsc one without noticeable disruption to the image. Beyond that, teleconverters tend to be used in brighter light. If you're above a certain threshold it's not going to matter.

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Oh boy another sensor size thread... how original ...

>My blah blah density dynamic range Snoy meter backlighting!
> My depth of field reach range mount size filter ugh!
>Still Not taking pictures
>Still not outside
>Still jobless

When will it end.","attachment":null,"posted":1714445762},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4308821,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305780
>APS-C is pure copium
>tries to cope with m43
lmao dead mount","attachment":null,"posted":1714474073},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4309611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305780
>M43 makes sense.
I'm a brainlet, why is m43 better / different that aps-c?","attachment":null,"posted":1714682985},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4309615,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309611
Because he's a gear collector and aps-c is just a touch too close to full frame, so he'd rather buy a much worse camera just to have more variety on his increasingly dusty photography shelf","attachment":null,"posted":1714683465},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4309621,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309611
To be frank, micro four thirds has no point unless you think shooting wildlife with a telephoto that functions and renders like someone stacked TCs on full frame sounds appealing, or intend to spend <$1k on your camera and multiple lenses.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714684206860434.png","filename":"Untitled.png"},"posted":1714684206},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4309693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305986
>I'm selling my m43 lens collection
same, I decided to sell everything and get an used a7riii + probably a 40mm 2.5
After trying a lot of things I realized that I don't really care about the versatility and having several lenses to be able to shoot anything, I find it more stimulating to make do with just one prime and at this point I might as well go for the higher quality so I can masturbate over the details","attachment":null,"posted":1714716728},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305779
APS-C/M43 MILCs are more compact and so are the lenses for them.
Depending on where you shoot and under wich conditions, size and weight might be limited.
But since /p/ doesn't go outdoors and shoot anything further than 100 m from their car, that doesn't realy matter, does it?
Sure, get that FF DSLR/MILC with the big lenses required, and make sure to bring 10 of them you definitly need, totaling like 10 kg of gear.
If you're/out/doors, you'll appreciate the lower weight and bring a fast normal zoom as well as a tele zoom lens and maybe a small, lightweight tripod.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715092942860345.png","filename":"F77C5633-02FF-4393-B98A-3905FF06BC33.png"},"posted":1715092942},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311306,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311290
sounds like a weak zoomer's problem, unless you are climbing K2 you can deal with the slight extra weight. Gen X photographers used to haul gigantic FF DSLR kits everywhere without crying about it","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715094752982046.jpg","filename":"E-M5-III_M.Zuiko-Digital-ED-12-45mm-F4-Pro-A7-III_FE-24-105mm-F4-G-OSS-Sony-FE-size-comparison-PXLMAG.jpg"},"posted":1715094752},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311309,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311306
If you're climbing, on a long hike or on a long MTB ride, the lower weight is a huge advantage.
After all, your camera gear isn't the only stuff you need to carry.
And the big advantage comes with the size of telephoto lenses, for the same reach you need about 1,5x as much focal length with FF after all
>Gen X photographers used to haul gigantic FF DSLR kits everywhere without crying about it
I know, and while I'm a zoomer myself, I started into photography with old, used film gear before switching to DSLR.
It certainly is possible to carry a set of primes plus telezoom and a SLR/FF-DSLR on a long trip, but it isn't great.
And in the end, I can carry another small bottle of water and a few energy bars instead wich enables me to go further and take more/better pics.","attachment":null,"posted":1715095720},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311306
Pretty much anyone backpacking or climbing >3k feet will tell you a pound or two is a very significant difference. This isn't UL bullshit the difference between those setups is like 600g and you aren't even comparing telephotos yet. The Oly lens even does 1x macro magnification after equivalence, that with the tiny (weather sealed) fl-lm3 and a diffuser covers a lot of bases.","attachment":null,"posted":1715097323},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311332,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311290
>Are more compact
Fuji next to zf, lumix gx* next to a7c, the cameras are the same size give or take 0.1 pounds

>>4311309
Let me remind you that you are bitching about the dumbest shit on earth by using GRAMS (a non-unit invented to increase the psychological impact of small differences - we use pounds and kg here) and comparing an f8 zoom to an f4 zoom. In fact, you are comparing a 24-90 f8 to a 24-105 f4. Actually fucking retarded.

This is absolutely retarded because nobody on full frame would willingly use an f8 zoom knowing exactly how shitty their photos would come out. Diffraction smears after stopping down once, high ISO all the time, ouch. I have seen the photos from such setups. I have used such setups. Like the difference between FF and non-fuji APSC ie: canon R7 is small if you put equally good glass on each, essentially down to 50% changes in sharpness and noise, - the difference between m43 and an android phones camera is even smaller ESPECIALLY when you put a 24-90 f8 on it.

Put comparable lenses on and the difference is astoundingly small. Who would use an f8 zoom anyways? Phone tier images.
>inb4 this must surely be bokeh
1: You would embrace and enjoy bokeh as an option if you were not coping with your stupid purchases
2: l2hyperfocal, if you cant shoot a landscape at f4 you literally do not know how to use a camera
3: diffraction after stopping down once lmao

>omg "62 grams" (in real units: 0.062kg or 0.13lb)
>i am going to die
Then it gets funnier. Compare primes and the m43 is slower, softer, bigger, and "heavier" (in grams)

Olympus sold the camera division for a reason. Panasonic abandoned m43 except for a FF sized camcorder for a reason. The market segment these used to compete in was replaced by smartphones. All they have now is gimmicks that real photographers don't care about like FPS and bird detect AF. You know most significant bird photos were shot on a 5fps DSLR right?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715098185913385.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1715098185},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Im hiking 3000000 miles i cant carry an extra half pound
>thats why im using a phone tier bridge camera instead of my phone which takes photos that look the exact same
Whats the exact justification, being cucked into having to use an iphone instead of a good droid?","attachment":null,"posted":1715098246},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311335,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311332
-t. doesn't go outside and benchraces cameras","attachment":null,"posted":1715098556},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311332
You have not actualy looked at a single lense with a decently long focal length.
That's where the differences start getting quite significant.
Something like a 300 mm on APS-C or 450 mm on full frame at the long end of a tele-zoom.
Also learn how to convert equivalent aperture and focal length, my friend.
APS-C 17-50 mm f/2.8 is FF 26,5-75 mm f/4.2","attachment":null,"posted":1715099323},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311343,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311332
Just pretend there's an a7c with a 24-70 f4 (or the same sized and much better made, fully weather sealed 20-70 f4, which pxlmag forgot existed along with the 24-50 f2.8 and new lightweight UWA)

How about something that's actually comparable? Let's keep everything roughly equally high quality

Nikon ZF: $2000, add the grip, 1.5lbs
50mm f1.8: $500 used, 1lb
-Alt: 26mm f2.8: $500 used, nothing-lb
-Alt: 24-120 f4 S pseudo-macro, $900 used, 1.5lbs (night? who shoots at night?)
400mm f4.5: $2000 used, 2lb

G9II: $1600 new/$1450 used, 1.5lb
42.5mm f1.2: Quite slow, $1000 used
200m f2.8: $3000? Ugh, I quit. This is not worth saving 2" in length and... wait, it's heavier than the 400mm? Shit.

>>4311335
I do go outside that's why I think olympus sells worthless scam gear that can easily be replaced by an iphone (24-90 f8 lol). You could say phones have reached a point where they can be as good as cameras, but the reality is cameras have stayed at such a low point that there are still systems that take the same photos as phones.","attachment":null,"posted":1715099603},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311345,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311340
You are not looking at the apertures. To keep those zooms fast (you're hiking right? animals move fast and come out at dawn and dusk), the zooms get just as large again, and then you get m43 quality.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715099666760723.png","filename":"lol.png"},"posted":1715099666},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311335
>benchraces
man literally says mirrorless autogimmicks dont matter and that the majority of good photographers used reflex

we're only discussing mirrorless itt because /p/ cant expose a photo without live view and insists on saving literally one pound","attachment":null,"posted":1715099850},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311351,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311343
>f/1.2
>quite slow
Anon, have you forgotten to take your meds again?","attachment":null,"posted":1715100017},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311351
On a micro four thirds camera, that $1000+ f1.2 lens performs identically a to a cheap full frame f2.4 lens. Sigma makes a FF 90mm f2.8 that's close enough and half the price.

I'm not going to mention the price of their fast standard or go into manual focus (nearly a grand and mf only for f1.8). Panasonic makes good video cameras and deserves better than the embarrassment of being compared to nikon's stills system, because if you dont expect it to compete as a stills system and appropriately view it as a video system, it makes a lot more sense, because for most people in most situations the G9II is a much better overall video system.","attachment":null,"posted":1715100257},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311354,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311349
The big advantage of mirrorless isn't gimmics, it's the shorter flange distance.
Shorter flange distances make it a lot easier to design wide angle and fast normal lenses.
Meanwhile SLRs need retrofocal optics for anything shorter than about 50 mm, wich degrades image quality as well as lens speed and they add weight.
Wich is why fast wide angle primes for DSLRs (especialy APS-C) suck, but work pretty well for MILC.
Granted, for anything longer than 50 mm (physical focal length), there isn't much of a differnce.","attachment":null,"posted":1715100379},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311354
This isn't actually true. Some of the sharpest UWAs ever made are on EF mount, but MILCs have made it a lot easier to correct LoCA for short telephotos and obsess over the quality of the bokeys.

What is true is that APS-C to FF is negligible in many situations, and important in others, and M43 is either negligible compared to FF unless you are a panaCHAD and shooting video, or a total scam and more comparable to a phone.","attachment":null,"posted":1715100511},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311355
Okay, show me one wide angle lens for DSLRs that doesn't require complicated retrofocal optics or simmilar copes to get around a 40+ mm flange distance.
Hint: There is a reason why DSLR lenses with focal lengths shorter than 20 mm and apertures of f/2 and fastwr are rare, huge and expensive as hell.","attachment":null,"posted":1715100784},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311365,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311357
So now you've made it from "they arent even sharp" to "ok they're kinda big tho" (doesnt matter lol)

Confirmed: DSLRs are for manly men who can lift a "gargantuan" 16-35 f4 L, which is still getting used on mirrorless because it's too good (PS: a canon milc with the ef-rf is about the same size as a canon dslr)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715101295902811.jpg","filename":"maxresdefault.jpg"},"posted":1715101295},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311357
>it's a cope!
>lets take a look
>oh mirrorless is still using retrofocal lenses instead of symmetrical UWAs because symmetrical UWA designs sucked on film and they suck even more on digital even with curved microlens memes","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715101488970765.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1715101488},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311365
If you remove all size and monetary constrains, you can make just about anything, yea.
Like, fuck Zeiss made lens systems capable of projecting in excess of 200 000 lp/mm.
Downside is that it weights several tons.
Compactness, weight and price are advantages, if you like it or not.
Also yes, obviously a MILC running an adapter that increases its flange distance to DSLR levels to run a DSLR lens going to be simmilarly large in total as a DSLR with that lens.
That doesn't surprise anyone, however an equivalent lens designed for the shorter flange distance of a MILC can be way more compact.
Take as an example the Canon RF 28 mm f/2.8","attachment":null,"posted":1715102581},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311374
Sure that lens is small, but they didn't even weather seal it, and most of the size savings came from the exotic elements and software corrections. A similar lens would not have been much bigger on EF if they had the technology required to make these bullshit elements, and everyone would bitch about their OVF showing a distorted, heavily vignetting nightmare.

It's not merely the mount. It's manufacturing tech, and the EVF lying to you. Manufacturing tech matters in every field no matter how banal. Today, the bic crystal writes like shit compared to a twsbi eco that lasts for life as long as you dont pull it apart to be a redditor about ink swaps. But when it was made, fountain pens were leaky and prone to drying out, because FP manufacturing wasn't good enough yet, but ball bearing manufacturing was, and it changed the world, just because the older, theoretically better writing tech didn't come with the manufacturing advanced it needed to be well executed.

In the future your relatives children will look back on the days of SLRs and curse us for abandoning them because they will have the manufacturing and optics expertise (like elements that can be transformed with electrical current) to make absolutely tiny SLRs with tiny lenses. They will think "even with the tech of their day, they could have just did that with an SLR and it would be about the same size, but with a glorious OVF and no AI editing out politically controversial objects!". And they will curse us, brother. They will curse us. "Couldnt they have at least had digitally coupled rangefinders instead of lying AI VFs?"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715103099636382.jpg","filename":"82374556f95a417a85495aa7d6aeb5e9.jpg"},"posted":1715103099},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311384,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311378
It does make use of corrections for distortion and abberations, but that has been done for decades now, same with aspherical lenses.
However what enables it to be so small is largely the much shorter flange distance.
It's actualy pretty hard to design a lens with a focal length shorter than the flange distance of a given camera, and it gets harder the more the focal length is shorter than the flange distance.","attachment":null,"posted":1715103743},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311384
But given todays manufacturing capabilities and exotic elements, don't you think it could have gone on a DSLR without being much larger?

Was saving fractions of inches worth giving up the joys of reflex?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715104587605612.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1715104587},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311394
>But given todays manufacturing capabilities and exotic elements, don't you think it could have gone on a DSLR without being much larger?
No, because it uses essentialy the same manufacturing techniques as where available decades ago.
For decades now we've had enough computational power to do raytracing, great engineers working with dedicated CAD software, CNC grinding machines and different kinds of glass.
>Was saving fractions of inches worth giving up the joys of reflex?
These savings come into effect with all kinds of lenses with focal lengths shorter than the flange distance as well as many fast lenses.
And that allows for much simpler designs with better optical performance than would be possible on 40+ mm flange distance.","attachment":null,"posted":1715105183},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311405,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311397
>No, because it uses essentialy the same manufacturing techniques as where available decades ago.
Yeah, that's why canon made so many exotic element lenses.
>These savings come into effect with all kinds of lenses with focal lengths shorter than the flange distance as well as many fast lenses.
Meanwhile most mirrorless lenses are actually larger for very incremental edge sharpness/bokeh fringing improvements and people can't tell d750 photos from z6ii photos.","attachment":null,"posted":1715106111},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311412,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311405
I mean, they did make quite a few lenses with aspherical lenses for decades.
However there are a few lenses that do make massive use the better sensors and DPAF to get more compact, like the RF 600 mm f/11 IS and RF 800 mm f/11 IS compact telescoping super telephoto lenses.","attachment":null,"posted":1715107202},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311417,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311412
A mere aspherical isn't quite as exotic as today's mustache elements.

>f/11 primes
They're small because they're fixed aperture primes with a storage position. Just consoomer cucking that could have been done as easily on a DSLR.
>Better sensors
You mean better noise reduction.","attachment":null,"posted":1715107549},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311423,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">arguing against Reflex(tm)
you cant. mirrorless has no real advantages.","attachment":null,"posted":1715108409},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311425,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311423
Based and trve

Mirrorless? It's called live view lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715108877},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311332
>Diffraction smears after stopping down once
Did you know? People who actually go outside and take photos do so at apertures like f/16 FF equivalent all the time. This is why I don't trust anyone who engages in this debate. Just complete disconnect from real photography.","attachment":null,"posted":1715109991},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311435
Yeah we've seen the photos that result from people with ken rockwells quality standards
They aren't good and it may very well be what really killed photography.

REAL photography, ie: fashion, editorials typically uses full frame to medium format for a reason. it's important enough that over 50% of editorials and fine art are still shot on medium and large format film.

Remember olympanon posting his smeary landscapes that looked exactly like phone snaps?","attachment":null,"posted":1715110160},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311435
the overwhelming majority of normal people who go outside to take normal daytime shots at f/16 switched to phones because they could not tell the phones results apart from their crop sensor cameras.

the photographers who are knowledgeable and discerning enough to still get use out of non-phone cameras have actually trended towards shooting landscapes at wider apertures because they're doing art instead of vacation documentation","attachment":null,"posted":1715110265},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311437
If you can't tell a photo taken at f/16 on a real camera from a phone photo you are blind or tasteless. Like I said, complete disconnect from real photography.","attachment":null,"posted":1715110377},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311439,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311438
you can, especially if said "real camera" is a crop sensor. print it and it gets even closer. we're talking good phones here of course, not a low budget iphone model that forces oversharpening. once again the overwhelming majority of normal people who go outside to take normal daytime shots at f/16 switched to phones because they could not tell the phones results apart from their crop sensor cameras. you don't know some secret about photography and neither do other anti-gear gearfags like ken rockwell, your photography is just so technically simple and quality non-critical that you dont actually need an ILC to do it anymore.

micro four thirds specifically, unless you spend FF money on near FF sizes to get slightly worse than FF results (which is ok for video, i admit, because nobody stares at individual frames for quality), died because phones killed it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715110536},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311439
I have an inherent distrust of someone that uses shitty low resolution crop sensor ILCs unless they're doing so for the zany effect lenses like commieshit and lensbaby. They're either delusional or they've been believing delusional people because they're semi-obscure gear these days.

There's a reason the higher market is moving towards more resolution and gradually shifting towards crop MF being the new FF, and the lower market ranges from neglected to dying to dead. Staying ahead of phones.","attachment":null,"posted":1715110706},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311442,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311417
>They're small because they're fixed aperture primes with a storage position.
>Just consoomer cucking that could have been done as easily on a DSLR.
Nope, because they are f/11 an optical viewfinder wouldn't realy work well with such lenses.
And neither would the AF sensors in most DSLRs.
>Better sensors
>You mean better noise reduction.
Not realy, the sensors themselfes have also gotten better at producing a higher signal/noise ratio to begin with.
Noise reduction has gotten better as well, but that's not what I was talking about.
Anyway, they are just about the only lenses with that kind of range on FF that are not super bulky/heavy","attachment":null,"posted":1715111035},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311462,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4311357
>show me one wide angle lens for DSLRs that doesn't require complicated retrofocal optics
Here you go, unless you consider a 5 element design "complicated".","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715114668747477.gif","filename":"Canon_EF_28mm_f2-8_Optical_Block_Diagram.gif"},"posted":1715114668},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311442
Canon sensors have gotten better because they were subpar to begin with, and mostly they got better at applying forced NR.","attachment":null,"posted":1715114833},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311374
>Zeiss made lens systems capable of projecting in excess of 200 000 lp/mm
Which one is that?","attachment":null,"posted":1715114989},{"board":"p","thread":4305779,"pid":4311589,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311465
A system they designed for ASLM wich is used by TSMC now, operates in EUV (13,5 nm) and is a purely mirror based system.
Light starts to behave weird at that kind of wavelength as lenses stop working and nothing reflects it well anymore.
So they had to come up with a whole new type of Mo/Si multilayer mirror system that had to be absolutely defect free.","attachment":null,"posted":1715145914}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307274,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bros, what's the best camera for normal people?

I just want the usualy normie stuff, landscapes, pics of family and friends or selfies with them and close objects. Perhaps there's also a video function.

Ideally a compact one that fits in bags or even my pocket.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713974998607639.jpg","filename":"DoXnZrYWhevtmiq59nstG3.jpg"},"posted":1713974998},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"the camera market hates you for some reason. no reason for the ricoh gr to lack a selfie screen and good video. no reason for the fuji x100 to lack a selfie screen and good video (you cant even shoot video using the internal mic because the super slow autofocus makes a whirring noise). lets not even speak of canon APS-C (just poorfag FF for bird photographers) or nikon APS-C (why does it even exist???)

i guess, you could buy a sony aps-c and leave that shit on auto mode all the time. they have selfie screens, borderline magic autofocus, good video, are roughly fuji x100 sized, and you can put very small lenses on them. not the pixel peeperest lenses but they are super small. the a6700 finally added weather sealing (like your phone!) so get that while keeping in mind that fully weather sealed lenses for prolonged outdoor use are larger, or get the a6600 if you wouldnt get your camera wet. the a6600 and a6700 are the best, you get stabilization with any lens, not just OSS lenses.
>inb4 phone, if OP wanted tasteless HDR AI paintings based on composited exposures of blurry noise he already has a phone","attachment":null,"posted":1713975658},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307274
ur phone","attachment":null,"posted":1713977214},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307290
What he said.","attachment":null,"posted":1713982440},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307350,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"RX100","attachment":null,"posted":1713992410},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307274
>I just want the usualy normie stuff
>landscapes, pics of family and friends or selfies
>Perhaps there's also a video function
>a compact one that fits in bags or even my pocket
say no more","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1713994436132135.png","filename":"84018201.png"},"posted":1713994436},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307277
he called it.

no, a phone is not a replacement for a camera, and never will be
>b-b-b-but content over qua-
quality is part of content. i am not made of AI smears and my life has highlights and shadows in it. my life is not rendered in apple smart HDR. even a 10 year old DSLR takes more lifelike photos than your gay ass disposable apple ewaste.","attachment":null,"posted":1713994746},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307367,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307359
pro level phones can shoot raw if you're that insecure and scared of AI","attachment":null,"posted":1713996145},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307376,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307367
>”pro” level phones
Apple sure doesnt make any of these. Did you mean those shitty android phablets with 1” sensors? Even the “raw” is mangled by copeutational photography and yes I AM scared of AI and you will be too, but only after AI generated you is AI filmed molesting AI generated children and you spend 2 years in court without a single alibi untouched by even more AI. My AI generated voice will be on television denouncing you as the worst antisemite I have ever met. Have fun.","attachment":null,"posted":1713998930},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307274
For videos and most of what you want to do, use your cellphone. If you were saying "i want to do pro videos or i expect to get money from my videos" that would be totally different.
If you still want an actual camera to make nice landscape photos or portraits, even just for yourself and your family, you could probably get a Sony or Fuji.
No need to pay for a Ricoh, it's kinda for nerds and overpriced.","attachment":null,"posted":1714034577},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307350
this","attachment":null,"posted":1714045956},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Sony zv1. Selfie screen, video, stills are good, zoom lens for a wide variety of focal lengths. Relatively cheap compared to an rx100VII or a ricoh gr or x100v.

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>phone sized sensor

>>4307274
a6600 + 20mm f2.8. Like a fuji, but it actually functions like a camera its price instead of a chinese leica copy with china's cheapest autofocus that making loud ass noises.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714058872792183.jpg","filename":"Sony-Alpha-a6600-with-Sony-E-20mm-F2.8-lens.jpg"},"posted":1714058872},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"youre proably gonna wanna look at 1 inch sensor cameras (sony rx100, canon g5/7/9x)

or if youre okay with a small bag then maybe an old m4/3 like olympus pen series but for me i find if i cant just jam it in my pocket then i dont take it out as much as i should cause its a hassle","attachment":null,"posted":1714073444},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4307572,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307274
Nikon D80 and 35mm f/1.8 DX. Cheap and endless opportunity to upgrade optics. Back when I was a kid you got this if you were "interested in photography" but it makes even more sense now. If you want small size phones win. Otherwise just go big.","attachment":null,"posted":1714075526},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4308069,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i am the anon who personally killed the "the one you have with you" meme by replying to every instance of it with super negative vibes and im really glad it's still dead","attachment":null,"posted":1714237433},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4308072,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307274
It's a bad time to look into used point and shoot cameras...

Best bet is you're phone, or just look for an older low shutter count entry level dslr like a d3000 or something and get a cheap lens.","attachment":null,"posted":1714238764},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4308077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Changing your phone to latest high end iphone with the budget that you were gonna use on buying a new camera>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>buying a mundane cheap camera which practically worse than your phone","attachment":null,"posted":1714241065},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4308226,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308077
lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714293783},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4308235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307572
I would personally recommend a D300 over a D80, having had both. The D300 is built better, has a better sensor, shoots at a higher frame rate, better battery life, and costs about the same second-hand. The only thing I liked about the D80 was the way its CCD sensor would render images, but I also recognize that it's a niche appeal, and not the best for a beginner.","attachment":null,"posted":1714301050},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4308451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"No op. But which used camera deals look the best? Prices in leaf bucks.

A) A6100 with 16-50 kit lens for $650
B) A6400 with 16-50 kit lens + Sigma 16mm f1.4 for $1350.
C) A6600 with Sony E35mm f1.8 OSS + Rode Videomicro mic for $1300","attachment":null,"posted":1714357639},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4308452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308451
a6100 so you don't use up precious funds that should be saved for full frame","attachment":null,"posted":1714359042},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4309290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i love being normal i think its good","attachment":null,"posted":1714578648},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4309295,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4308451
>>4308452
This. Just get a NEX-5.","attachment":null,"posted":1714579651},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4309324,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309295
I would go at least for the 6 to get some kind of viewfinder with it. Still old enough to be cheap yet modern enough to be capable. The first nex 3 is pushing 15 years now and I think the sensor would still be fine today but that thing was a bit of a usability nightmare. Still loved the thing though

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No listing near me.

And I'm wanting to upgrade from a Panasonic GF2 with pretty bad iso noise and focus performance so I'm wanting to not get an even older camera.

>>4308452
Yes, I agree that the a6100 is the best value and I should use the saving on lenses, but the seller isn't replying. I might have to try to get C instead. It's a 1.5 hour drive though.","attachment":null,"posted":1714584357},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4309327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309325
At $1300, for a non weather sealed APS-Crippled snoy, you're being ripped off.
>But the mic is like worth some money tho (no one wants to pay a premium for a used microphone fyi)

You're in the same price bracket as a used a7c+40mm f2.5 G. Also crippled but at least it's weather sealed and full frame (and the same fucking size). At such a large amount of money it's reasonable to just save a little more and buy something nice.","attachment":null,"posted":1714584721},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4309357,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309325
>Driving 3 hours for a crop Sony
Good God.","attachment":null,"posted":1714589432},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4309382,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308451
>Prices in leaf bucks
Convert it to currency people can understand like a normal person, nobody cares about your fake dollars. Or at least use CAD, $ is just confusing.","attachment":null,"posted":1714595993},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4309454,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309382
A) A6100 with 16-50 kit lens for $474
B) A6400 with 16-50 kit lens + Sigma 16mm f1.4 for $984.
C) A6600 with Sony E35mm f1.8 OSS + Rode Videomicro mic for $948","attachment":null,"posted":1714617130},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4309544,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307572
for a normie, it will shit in lowlight without using the built in flash or tripod. the upside with the D80 is with an SB-600, off camera flash with the commander mode is where it shines, aside from having muh 'CCD' sensor.","attachment":null,"posted":1714666225},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4310699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307376
Buy a Sony phone. What's the issue here?","attachment":null,"posted":1714945281},{"board":"p","thread":4307274,"pid":4311105,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307274
I got a Lumix TZ110 and love it. Fixed screen so selfies the olde fashioned way, but not something I'd ever do. Oh, you can put it on something and control it from your phone, but that's not exactly spontaneous.
Good price, shoots RAW, really nice pics, fits in a pocket.
I use a Magfilter to attach a polarising filter.
Not sure what else to say, it's just a great wee camera.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715053773348549.png","filename":"Screen Shot 2024-05-07 at 15.45.36.png"},"posted":1715053773}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307695,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I was browsing flickr today and came across this photo taken with a Canon Powershot G9.

How was this effect achieved?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714119747950365.png","filename":"yukyukdsfg.png"},"posted":1714119747},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307700,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307695
>A thread died for this.
You mean, panning?","attachment":null,"posted":1714123680},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307701,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307700

The horse and rider is a little blurred, the bg is really blurred and it feels like motion blur making the horse feel it’s going really fast.","attachment":null,"posted":1714124154},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307702,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307695
You put the camera into timer mode and throw it in the direction of the object","attachment":null,"posted":1714124403},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307703,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">A thread died for this.
It's called panning you mong.","attachment":null,"posted":1714125043},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307705,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307703

I dont know why you keep bringing up panning, this is a photo not video.","attachment":null,"posted":1714125548},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307706,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307705
kys","attachment":null,"posted":1714125767},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307705
& I dont know why he thinks mong is some kind of an insult. Like just naming some random ethnicity he has some problem with is going to mean anything to anyone else. MF lives inside his own head & is cringy af irl.","attachment":null,"posted":1714129639},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307714
>mong - mongoloid - down syndrome - retard

>>4307701
The further away an object is the further distance it covers during panning","attachment":null,"posted":1714131486},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307705

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Horse feet move when they're running, buildings don't move. Notice how blurred the building in the background is?","attachment":null,"posted":1714134760},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4307739,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307726
>buildings don't move
source??","attachment":null,"posted":1714139108},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4309196,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307714
mong isn't a name of any ethnicity, that would be mongol instead you fucking mongoloid","attachment":null,"posted":1714548837},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4311422,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307726
do you have a single fact to back that up?","attachment":null,"posted":1715108228},{"board":"p","thread":4307695,"pid":4311467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307726

That's from the Earth spinning you idiot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715115654}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308045,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My mom cleared out her basement and gave me her old 110 camera she used back in the day. Anyone ever shot with this format? Looks like a roll is ~$10 and dev is $12 for 24 exposures. I don’t have high hopes since the negatives are so small, but it’s portable","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714233902203791.jpg","filename":"vivivtar-tele.jpg"},"posted":1714233902},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308046,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"Sun, lots of light, as much light as possible.
If you're in the shade, near dusk or dawn or indoors, use the flash.
Pics will be grainy but with character.

Happy snapping!","attachment":null,"posted":1714234048},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308051,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308046
I tested the flash and it works fine. A while ago I scanned a 110 roll from the 90s, is this about what i would expect today?

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>>4308051
The cartridge formats like 110 and 126 were made for people that were too amateur or much in a hurry to be expected to even load and rewind 35mm film. Just pop the cartridge in, and go. Camera size and convenience was more important than image quality. These formats died once manufacturers figured out how to make passable 35mm cameras so cheap that they could be preloaded with film and sold as disposable.
I had that exact same or very similar 110 camera when I was a kid. The same posted here looks about right.","attachment":null,"posted":1714236060},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308059,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4308051
yeah just about. The current film is made by lomo though so there might be colour casts depending on which type you buy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714236880},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308067,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308051
yeah that's about the limit. even the "pro" bodies like the pentax and minolta 110 still don't get great sharpness despite some really nice lenses. I've heard a number of reasons for this, the film is too small, there is no backing plate putting pressure on the film to keep it flat, etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1714237193},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308108,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308067
To me it’s looks grainier and blurrier than could be explained by size alone. I mean if you cut out a 17x13mm rectangle out of a good sharp 35mm negative and blew it up, it would not look as bad as 110 usually does. I always assumed it was because 110 cameras were plastic disposable camera tier. But maybe the most reason so few bothered to make real cameras for the format was because it was impossible?","attachment":null,"posted":1714248359},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308111,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308108
I feel like the lack of flat film plane thing may be the true reason. If you examine the cartridge, technically the hard plastic backing is supposed to keep everything flat and aligned, but how much tolerance is allowed there really? There isn’t a spring plate or pressure plate or anything like that. And it doesn’t take much at all to fall out of the critical sharpness region. Though I think the scan posted here may be an exceptionally bad combination of many factors, if you look at other scans of 110 it’s not quite nearly as bad. And your idea of cutting a rectangle out of 35mm is essentially how people re-spool these cameras these days. See here an example taken with one of the top 110 cameras https://www.lomography.com/cameras/3342516-minolta-110-zoom-slr/photos/20578615?order=popular","attachment":null,"posted":1714248933},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308115,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308045
It's a format where everything was sacrificed to save space. Everything.","attachment":null,"posted":1714249846},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308120,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308045
Hi anon, 110 is a meme shitty format. You don't want to shoot it.

This is a relic, it's a funky cool old school camera that's in a weird VHS tape format so it should be kept in a clearcase on a shelf somewhere but you shouldn't try to regularly shoot with it.
Just admire it, for what it is.
Shoot a bit for fun but don't expect anything good at all.

35mm is already a small format.
110 is basically micro four thirds size for reference. Due to 110's small size and analog format.. you're going to incur even bigger losses when trying to digitize it. Nobody even makes quality 110 film scanners. Just 35mm and medium format machines, you'll have to camera scan if you want to DIY any good and even a 1:1 macro on a fullframe camera won't yield good resolution from 110 film, ironically 1:1 macro on micro four thirds is a better option as the sensor is basically the same size as the film but if you want to use a bigger/better camera to scan 110, you'll want a 2x macro lens and a robust sacn setup since you'll need good alignment of focal plane and really accurate focus to get anything good.

110 is an abandoned format for a reason.
It's not worth the trouble, and it never delivered high quality results even with darkroom printing. Trying to digitize it is an even bigger uphill battle.","attachment":null,"posted":1714251409},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308140,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308120
>MUH SHARPNESS!!
You know people just do shit for fun right","attachment":null,"posted":1714257163},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308155,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308045
I potentially love 110. Potentially bc the though like all the 110 Kodachrome & Ektachrome 110 slides I’ve got from my childhood, the only 110 film left today is Lomo, which, though they are dedicated af, is actually fairly plebbit-tier film. What i like about it is, if i dont want to see grain, I’ll just shoot with my z7 and make crystal clear images. If i shoot with fulm, its bc i want to make a final image that looks like a film image. When you scan a slide to a final output size, the grain, vignetting, hazing, CA, light leak fx & characteristics of anal log image-making are 4x bigger than 35mm. That said, you have to decide thats what you want to see in the image.","attachment":null,"posted":1714259892},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308045
You can get some decent detail if you start with a decent 110 camera. But probably not an old plastic P&S box. More like a Rollei or Minolta or the new Lomomatic 110.

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>detail
...comes from:

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>sold as disposable
they were never disposable. i cant find it, but some other anon posted a how its made video of a fuji factory which reloads and rebuilds all the "disposable" cameras","attachment":null,"posted":1714271076},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308191,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308155
I was thinking about making some 110 films of my own. Prob make a slicer and slice & perforate Ektachrome slide film into 110 rolls. Those cunts, they have all the luck. Probably need a source for cartridges, maybe Darkroom dotcom since they develop it & prob just pitch all the empties. It'd be a fucking job though, I'd need to make a machine that does it 24/7. I'm sure lomo would love to do it but prob doesn't want to get sued to betsy by kodiak","attachment":null,"posted":1714271725},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308215,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308191
seems a borderline inexcusable waste of ektachrome desu. there are only maybe 5 cameras total worth using it with. the other plasticy "lomo"esque cameras won't make the most of the film.
>just for fun
yeah yeah, i get it, but fuckin use kodak gold or some shit lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714285296},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308215
>only 5 good cameras
That’s 4 more cameras than I’d need to be interested. How many good cameras do you need there to be to want some decent film to shoot with yours?","attachment":null,"posted":1714307686},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308188
yeah that was a cool video, I thought I bookmarked it but I guess not. very impressive how thorough those nips were, polishing the lenses and everything.
In my family we always pulled the cameras apart to fish the film out and sent it to a lab like normal film because the processing was cheaper that way for some reason. So we sent a lot of those cameras straight to the landfill.","attachment":null,"posted":1714308656},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"OP here thanks for the info. I’m going to shelve this one. That $20 can be better spent on more 35 or 120 film instead that actually looks good","attachment":null,"posted":1714316305},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308345,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308282
Save it for when your dumb zoomer girlfriend wants "hella retro photos like scott pilgrim you know bro like we're gonna be playstation one today"","attachment":null,"posted":1714328314},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4308389,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Old here. I think this is one of the pics I took with the camera like OP. It and the others that I suspect of being from that camera are prints 3.5 x 4.375 inches in size.

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I mean...if you want to play with it just because, go ahead. But 110 and Kodak Disc were dog shit. They looked bad at 3x5.","attachment":null,"posted":1714430915},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4311593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i'd shoot lots of 110 if i could bulk roll hp5 and find a reel for patterson tanks that doesn't look skuffed","attachment":null,"posted":1715146612},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4311671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311593
Cut your own, and you can 3d print a reel","attachment":null,"posted":1715177043},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4311901,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311593
>and find a reel for patterson tanks that doesn't look skuffed
sounds like you just didn't look and wanted us to do the work for you, faggot, there's plenty of results for 110 reels on ebay from reputable brands and offbrand chinese
>b-but skuffed
what does that even mean?","attachment":null,"posted":1715228216},{"board":"p","thread":4308045,"pid":4311907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308389
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Previously: >>4304692

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So this is the power of Pentax
God bless","attachment":null,"posted":1713879173},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4306977,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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Meme subject but the contrast is really good. I like it","attachment":null,"posted":1713992397},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4307421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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>>4307006
>my last brain cell when literally any social interaction

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very nice, comfy tones

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fellow fujifag

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>>4307422

Cheers bros.

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>>4307421
>>4307461
>>4307478
>>4307522

Meme subject bros... Fuji bros...

>>4307339
>>4307339
I transheart power lines

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>>4307620
theres a nice blue edge to this photo that the metal and concrete are perfect for
>>4307622
>>4307628
don't post it here! sell it to a newspaper.
>>4307638
rpt wild rodent i would love to pet edition
cool blue
>>4307642
deer. the black and white makes teh snow colder lulz xd i liek- *gets hit in the forehead with a hammer and bleeds out everywhere*

you're all pussy babies. colour is not real. photography is not real, so make some shit up. realism is not the only colour philosophy; using your eyes as the final judge is and that is how we will become greater than AI because our personal oerspective will become an irreplicable attribute of our shots.

>>4307693
sick motorbike tho

pls post your garbage. one man's trash is another man's treasure. you never know what someone else might appreciate in your photo that you never saw yourself.

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Sorry, the newspapers are interested in photos that contradict the narrative.","attachment":null,"posted":1714140044},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4307762,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307628
Nice shot. And interesting point of view.

Wonder if you would see that in europe too and what the main antisemetic group here (muslims) would do to them. Usualy jews get beaten up here (by the muslims, still counts as radical right wing action, though). In germany and austria. We, who got some serious history with jews and no criticism against isreal is allowed, ever, invited the new nazis from sandniggistan and are even giving them money for it.

Fucking shitshow.","attachment":null,"posted":1714147335},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4307767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307742
Aren’t* I meant to say.

Yeah it’s a real perverse situation in Germany, considering they are major arms trading partners.

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based and vaporpilled","attachment":null,"posted":1714170805},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4307949,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Fell for the gas stations on film meme (again)

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goddam just like Yakuza 0, cool.

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>>4307971
>>4307972
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canola

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>>4306904
>>4306977
>>4306990
>>4306999
>>4307002
>>4307481
>>4307482
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Squirrels are famous for not taking directions well.

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Nicely frosted.

>>4307683
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>>4307952
Instead of the usual night lights view of the night before, this seems to go right past the morning after into a downer of an afternoon.

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>>4308125
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This is a really cool shot. Any nr at just 320iso though?","attachment":null,"posted":1714325015},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308333,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308332
*Why nr","attachment":null,"posted":1714325075},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Did a small walk today.

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I like them all. Nice work, Anon","attachment":null,"posted":1714329999},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308300
At leats there was something good about getting a foot of snow in an afternoon after I had switched over to my summer tires.

>>4308322
Almost almost, a touch more depth of focus...

>>4308334
Best of the bunch IMO.","attachment":null,"posted":1714333023},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308380,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308348
>sumo rear tire and dirtbike front
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Yeah agreed on the bit more of focus.

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This is incredible. Belongs in a 30 year old highschool humanities textbook. I'm not bullshitting I absolutely love this.","attachment":null,"posted":1714444669},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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>>4308918
>>4308919
>>4308920

Are you serious?","attachment":null,"posted":1714495495},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308938,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"visited my elementary school and regained all sorts of lost memories by looking around the yard

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Sharpness is a burgerosea concept

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>burgerosea
Quit the burgers and learn some composition ffs","attachment":null,"posted":1714496217},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308944,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308941
Where's your amazing composition?","attachment":null,"posted":1714496356},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308947,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308939
I like them. cute dog, nice light. very sharp","attachment":null,"posted":1714496722},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308950,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308944
In the ass of your sister","attachment":null,"posted":1714497298},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308954,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308950
Careful with your words. That dog is my sister.","attachment":null,"posted":1714497464},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308958,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308954
Based Wolf Brother","attachment":null,"posted":1714497815},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4308966,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308954
Then I shall retract my statement","attachment":null,"posted":1714498360},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309012,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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>>4308445
Even my screw mount super-suckumar has better bokeh","attachment":null,"posted":1714548683},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309212,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308445
>>4308446

Love the red from them leaves. Flashes out real nicely.
The bokeh seems a bit weak for f2.0, but still alright.","attachment":null,"posted":1714556126},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309222,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"new fujifag here
>>4306866
these were my first posts
been snapping lots of shits lately and trying my hand at editing them but it's hard to tell what looks good
would appreciate some feedback

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i also have the SOOC jpgs and the raws to compare
using darktable to edit right now but i'm kinda just fumbling around with the settings atm

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If you have enough pixels it might be an idea to crop it to a vertical format instead, the main motif is nice but IMO there's a bit too much chaff around it.

>>4308938
Scandinavia?

>>4309394
I'm bound to agree. A touch more green might have made even more to my tastes, but I guess the somewhat desaturated look might help the flowers pop.","attachment":null,"posted":1714599955},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309444,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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>Scandinavia?
Yes, Oslo","attachment":null,"posted":1714632273},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308012
Based rapeseed photographeur

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>>4308757
So epic","attachment":null,"posted":1714666970},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why is the rpt so low in the catalog?

>>4307810
You should have waited for someone to come down.

>>4307912
There is something in this that reminds me of the 90s.

>>4308127
Beautiful!

>>4308321
Would have been great if you were in front of her.

>>4308342
absolute units.

>>4308449
Good but too far.","attachment":null,"posted":1714682588},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309632,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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>>4306904
>>4306977
>>4306990
>>4306999
>>4307002
>>4307481
Ken, don't you have your own website?","attachment":null,"posted":1714700775},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309645
>Kodak DCS330C
neat","attachment":null,"posted":1714710000},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309695,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309655
these are way cooler and more expressive than any ken photos
>>4309650
>you just know","attachment":null,"posted":1714718748},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309718,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307481
I love this one and its colors, how was this done?","attachment":null,"posted":1714727535},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309747,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307481
>>4307482
these two are nice","attachment":null,"posted":1714740796},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309748,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307603
fujifags... unite

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i like this photo","attachment":null,"posted":1714741588},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309751,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307788
that is a very comnfy cat
>verification not required","attachment":null,"posted":1714741781},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309755,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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Scotland? I'm visiting the UK next spring and hoping to see some things like this.","attachment":null,"posted":1714743718},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309758,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309757
It's located in Fukui - Japan, called Hokojima.","attachment":null,"posted":1714744035},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309759,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"First time playing with my new 28mm f2.8 Revenon pentax k on my Canon 700d. Is it okay ?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714744174372227.jpg","filename":"_MG_0734.jpg"},"posted":1714744174},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309772,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309748
When having the main motif be a very small part of the photo works out.

>>4309759
It's ok, though I feel that having the leaf in the middle stand out a bit more might improve it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714747261},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309799,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309695
>you just know","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714758154079736.jpg","filename":"1447185496668.jpg"},"posted":1714758154},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309695
>these are way cooler and more expressive than any ken photos
that is a pretty low bar","attachment":null,"posted":1714759805},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309808,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309638
Very nice","attachment":null,"posted":1714761037},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4309840,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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bugposters stick together

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I've been wanting to do rollers so bad but need someone who wants to do a shoot with me in the first place and then someone else to do the driving lol. This shot is gorgeous, didn't know there were any 2 door W123s either.","attachment":null,"posted":1714810702},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310016,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310000
Very nice. Great light and blurr effect.

Just recently also photographed a standing car, but more because of the reflections the sourrounding that.
Composition is rather bad. The owner, an ex-yugoslavian bear of a man came over to me and asked me wtf I was doing. We chatted a bit and I was able to clarify, but he obviously wasn't too fond of me taking pics of his car

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Thanks. It was super fun to shoot it, as usual with rolles. It takes some preparations, and you need a good driver, someone who's not afraid to be in the wrong lane (unless you shoot on a highway) and close to the other car, sometimes even a bit too close due to wide lens you want to use. But if you nail everything, the effect will be stunning.

>>4310016
Thanks. I like your photo too, The composition could be a little better, but that's perfectly understandable in an urban setting- so many aspects you don't have control of. The only thing I believe you could do better is using a polarizing filter. These glares from other cars are a bitch, plus a polarizing filter allows you to capture more nuanced details of the car, such as paint texture.

Posting another, this one is a bit controversial- I consider it the poorest shot I took yesterday. I had to resort to super over-the-top dramatic editing, because I'm a retard and forgot to switch to manual after shooting these rollers. Switched to 50mm, didn't modify camera settings.

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beautiful shot","attachment":null,"posted":1714827080},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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shit compressed jpeg","attachment":null,"posted":1714829872},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310044,"name":"Zach","msg":"This is my newest photo","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714829876300727.jpg","filename":"Iha60oY.jpg"},"posted":1714829876},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310046,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310020
Good tip with the Polarizing filter. I always wanted to have one for my Canon. Took this photo with the g5x ii. It has an ND Filter but not option for Pol, I guess.

Also have an x-t3, but I'm thinking of switching to mft.

That's also a great photo. Nice mood. Reminds me a bit of the Austrian Movie "Indien". Cool catch with the antenna","attachment":null,"posted":1714829983},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310044
Try to explain why this is interesting","attachment":null,"posted":1714837362},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310083
try to explain why you single that post out in this thread","attachment":null,"posted":1714838816},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310089,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310087
Because the last thread I was in was his and there are many more photos where I wondered what the purpose or intention of it was","attachment":null,"posted":1714839042},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310090,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"snapshit I took from a car so I could read what the labels said later
turns out looks kinda neat with some cropping

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The contrast and color it gives against the background.","attachment":null,"posted":1714841820},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310101,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310089
I photographed that to have fun anon. Jesus Christ are you on your period?","attachment":null,"posted":1714841942},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310161,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Boat

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Wall

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The purest definition of a snapshit","attachment":null,"posted":1714858902},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310210,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310020
You have any other car photos? I'd love to see them if you do, there's an automotive thread over in >>4301115","attachment":null,"posted":1714859185},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310217,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310210
I'm thinking about getting my next photo to be a photo of a tractor.","attachment":null,"posted":1714860320},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310251,"name":"BurtGummer","msg":"

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That's a nice one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714865123},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310335,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310177
this poor deer seemed to have a broken leg.

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Yes.","attachment":null,"posted":1714872269},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310384,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310353
because 22 years is too soon?

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Nice. I like it. The plane is just a tiny bit too small.

Why insensitive?","attachment":null,"posted":1714895010},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310467
https://youtu.be/syDaA1tHR5c?feature=shared&t=12","attachment":null,"posted":1714909457},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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this could really use some light","attachment":null,"posted":1714932561},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310635,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310633
Tried it. Didn't like it.

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just bump this one >>4310628 +1EV in post
I tried it and it looks fine","attachment":null,"posted":1714939862},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4310675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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always love when s95 chad posts

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what was shutter speed?","attachment":null,"posted":1715036309},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4311693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">image limit on a photography board
someone new thread please","attachment":null,"posted":1715184957},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4311746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"an eternal recent photo thread would be cool","attachment":null,"posted":1715195603},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4311951,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310868
qt

>>4310090
High speed internets","attachment":null,"posted":1715246553},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313063,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310656
>>4310672
>>4310673
>>4310673
>>4310675
really good black-and-white photography anon but the plant one is underexposed.
>>4310044
king. the only thing that would make this better is if it was copy-pasted next to itself to make a triptych.
>>4310000
skateboard?
>>4309632
this would be awesome if u crushed the blacks
>>4309223
it could have been interesting if you gave this a dutch angle to show more of the church steeple... and crush the blacks.
>>4309085
i repeat myself. FUCK man this would be a sexy photo if you crushed the blacks a little bit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715530886},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313067,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310850
There is still time to point the ones you liked.","attachment":null,"posted":1715531682},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313632,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307339
I think if u cut out the awkward bit of road this is a great landscape anon. take note of segments of the composition like that which don’t fit. if you play an instrument, it’s like playing an off-key note in a chord.","attachment":null,"posted":1715692172},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307574
you’re goddamn right it is bro
>>4307638
whoever you are anon you fucking nailed the focus and white balance on this one. I love this little fella like you wouldn’t believe.
>>4307692
I like the dramatic contrast anon but I think a landscape frame would suit this composition better
>>4307693
I think this would be better if you put the horizon line and the sunset colours below or through the motorbike so it could stand out as well. to achieve that effect I would just squat down. where the mountains dip down is a perfect slot to move the outline of the bike into. Your exposure is good though. it made a nice silhouette of the bike (which would just stand out more with color behind it)
>>4307767
if you ever take a photo like this again close the aperture until you get all those people in focus. if needs be, bump up the ISO, but I think your shutter speed was ok.it should be focused on all the people in frame.
>>4307810
cool effect anon. keep looking out for more patterns like this.","attachment":null,"posted":1715692831},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313638,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307912
beautiful shot anon. I love the curve of the statue (even though you didn’t design the curve, you saw its beauty and that’s a skill in photography). the slightly contrasting deep-blue of the sky and the water-blue of the skyscraper, along with the reflection of the clouds meeting parallel with the curved statue, combine to form a very aesthetic and stunning image. well done.
>>4307949
I would have walked forward to get those three sulfur lamps on the right out of frame to maintain the striking contrast between the red and blue lights of the servo. that would simultaneously fill the frame with more of the servo, creating a stronger overall composition because there would be less negative space.","attachment":null,"posted":1715693149},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313640,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307952
definitely crush the blacks a bit here but otherwise awesome photo and composition. would like it on instagram bro. shiiiet I guess that’s not particularly large praise. would I buy it for $100? no. $50? no. $10? I’d consider it. $5? fuck yeah, but only with sub-saharan blacks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715693303},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313641,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308011
could have been interesting if you angled down (plus potentially squat down) to get more of the buildings in frame. perhaps going down on the ground would have benefitted because it seems like this was shot from a rooftop. find a town square or park and retry this same frame with less sky and more buildings and forest. I also think slightly more contrast would make your photography more eye-catching.","attachment":null,"posted":1715693522},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308445
this is very electric anon. it caught my eye as I was scrolling back to my previous place in the thread. I would at least like to see all the red leaves in focus, then, if possible, another with all the leaves in focus (but not the building), then everything. I think how blurry the majority of the photo is in this composition detracts from its overall interest, but you identified an eye-catching scene anon. well done.","attachment":null,"posted":1715693931},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310824
very cool and well-framed photo anon. I like that every side of the house is captured with something around it (grass, trees or sky) to frame it. you could warm up the white balance a little though to remove the banding around the edges of the tree and the roofline. yeah, I had another look. the white balance is definitely too cold. oh yeah, I also remembered that you should have moved left (maintaining the same distance from the house) to simultaneously elongate the horizontal dimensions of the house and remove the awkward bit of road in the bottom right. still though, you’ve done well to identify this composition anon. well done.","attachment":null,"posted":1715694223},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313645,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308074
without a word of advice
you should be ashamed of yourself anon.
>inb4 your advice is shit
>inb4 kill yourself
>after <<don’t you have your own website ken?>>
I’m trying something out of the ordinary. if you believe ken’s style (which I’ve never viewed in detail) is so beneath you, do something better than him or shut up. one picture is worth a thousand words (and I have to reiterate this on /p/, the photography board of all places).","attachment":null,"posted":1715694562},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313648,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313645
>cryingbaby.jpg","attachment":null,"posted":1715695374},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313649,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313645
Never posting here again was your advice.","attachment":null,"posted":1715696275},{"board":"p","thread":4306900,"pid":4313677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310657
Don't feed dogs with edibles anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715704113}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4308054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Which lens should I pick up after the nifty fifty?

I have a Canon R8, not opposed to EF lenses though. I'm enjoying shooting with the 50mm but want to expand my horizons a bit. Been thinking about grabbing an 85mm...would you go with the RF 85 f2 or the EF 85 f1.8?

Is an 85mm forcing me into doing strictly portraiture?

There's also a Samyang 14mm f2.8 for a reasonable price near me. Is manual focus that much of a hassle to shoot with?

Idk, what are your thoughts /p/?

Pic is an image I took with my 50mm 1.8","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714235231457759.jpg","filename":"50mm example.jpg"},"posted":1714235231},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4308057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"24 1.8
35 1.8
85 1.8
24-1## f4
100-400, 1.4x TC

These are the only lenses anyone ever actually needs","attachment":null,"posted":1714236632},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4308062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i think if you're not wanting to do a lot of portrait stuff (i'm NOT saying that's the only thing a 85 is good for mind you), then maybe you should go for a wide zoom next. they're great if you're a "walk around and photograph things" type of snapshitter. ef16-35 is still good, rf15-35 is lovely but expensive (i don't regret buying mine fwiw), and there's a new 14-35rf also which is cheaper. there's also the oddball 24-35 sigma which is a fun EF lens as it's basically the answer to the "28v35" fags so you can just have them both and 24 lol. it was my main lens before i got the EOS R.
but an 85 is a great lens to have as well, i have an ef 85/1.2 that works just fine on R body, and apparently the RF 85/2 is a pretty decent little lens for the money.","attachment":null,"posted":1714237050},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4308065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308054
85mm does not limit you to portraiture. People even use them for street, architecture and landscapes.","attachment":null,"posted":1714237124},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4308068,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4308054
if you often find yourself cropping, 85
if you often find yourself having to step back, 28
alternatively get a zoom for both because you already got a fast lens anyway

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Bump. I love the Quay in North Van. Comfy place","attachment":null,"posted":1714546956},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4309191,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308054

You can already see what an 85mm would be from your 50mm shots, just crop out the outside 20% of your photo and that’s what an 85 would have got.

It’s just a bit more zoomed in than a 50 but nothing crazy. Unless you shoot wide open you won’t get much extra you can’t with the 50.

200-600mm for birds
70-200 for people fashion
50 for general
24-35 for landscapes street events with multiple people subjects","attachment":null,"posted":1714548323},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4309237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"at first I got like 28-70mm zoom for minolta, sold it, then got 50mm for nikon, after that 28mm, it is not anyhow better after enter the collector, just a hobby","attachment":null,"posted":1714564212},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4309249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"something in the 80 to 135 range. It will force you to focus on details and composition. The change in perspective will also have a distinctive look from your photos with 50 mm.
I would not go for a wide angle.","attachment":null,"posted":1714569995},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4309359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"something in the 18 to 35 range. It will force you to focus on details and composition. The change in perspective will also have a distinctive look from your photos with 50 mm.
I would not go for a telephoto.","attachment":null,"posted":1714590036},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4309367,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308054
I recommend the Nikkor Z 24-120 f4 s","attachment":null,"posted":1714593587},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4309386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309367
Great lens but OP has a Canon RF mount camera.","attachment":null,"posted":1714596907},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4309389,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309386
User error.","attachment":null,"posted":1714597185},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4309452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Damn I forgot I made this thread

>>4309190
Thanks, yeah I was there for a wedding, it was an awesome spot :) I took some cool pictures I think, here's another one that feels v comfy

>>4309191
Definitely mostly trying to decide between a 35 & 85. 85 would be nice because I wanna start doing more ""street portraiture"" and it feels like kind of an easy way to get semi impressive looking images with nice bokeh

>>4309249
>>4309359
kek good to know, thanks anonymous posters","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714616133915456.jpg","filename":"IMG_0730_export.jpg"},"posted":1714616133},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4309850,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308054
>nifty fifty
just wide angle with a crop, unless you want muh blurrrs n shieet which is cringe if overdone

the distortion is related to distance, not focal length","attachment":null,"posted":1714770215},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4309991,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309850
just get a Hasselblad H6D-100 with the 24mm and you can have every focal length that you want!","attachment":null,"posted":1714803531},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4310893,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"desu I only ever use my 24 f2.8 these days","attachment":null,"posted":1715011688},{"board":"p","thread":4308054,"pid":4311080,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310893
What kind of stuff do you shoot?

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>35 1.8
Underrated lens. Same with the 28 2.8.","attachment":null,"posted":1715048313}]} {"title":"Marktown","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4308100,"pid":4308100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Industrial town

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Nice. Please proceed.","attachment":null,"posted":1714293978},{"board":"p","thread":4308100,"pid":4312495,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308100
how does a Samsung look THIS bad?","attachment":null,"posted":1715361386},{"board":"p","thread":4308100,"pid":4312498,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308100
zach core","attachment":null,"posted":1715361722},{"board":"p","thread":4308100,"pid":4312662,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308100
I helped build that coker. Built scaffold at the top of it. You from the region?
Flare stacks at night can make for some great photos, with the refinery lights in the background.","attachment":null,"posted":1715402999}]} {"title":"Ask a Pro","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309020,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I make images for a living. Happy to answer any questions.

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>make images.

So no photos?","attachment":null,"posted":1714506490},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309027,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309025
Photos, video/films, the odd bit of graphic design. So, to be inclusive, images.","attachment":null,"posted":1714506735},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309033,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309020
There is no such thing as a professional photographer.

having said that, did you not get enough attention today and need to come to a board full of people who also "make images" for some sweet treats?","attachment":null,"posted":1714507171},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309034,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309020
Is waking up to experience 9/11 the reason that New York is the greatest city on Earth?","attachment":null,"posted":1714507307},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309035,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309034
That guy says some wacky fuckin bullshit. Also believes he's the second coming of Christ or something. Wild ego.

>>4309033
Noted. Idk, I just wanted to see a gear thread die.","attachment":null,"posted":1714507426},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309040,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309035
>believes he's the second coming of Christ or something
Did he actually say that or is that just your interpretation of his personality?","attachment":null,"posted":1714507894},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309040
No, he doesn't literally believe that, but he does believe he was chosen by God to be mayor, and strikes a messianic tone in most of his speeches. It's a little out there for a civil servant IMO.","attachment":null,"posted":1714508145},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309047,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309035
>Idk, I just wanted to see a gear thread die.
You're the hero this board needs, then.

Why is greenpoint so fucking gentrified these days?","attachment":null,"posted":1714508504},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309048,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309043
>he does believe he was chosen by God to be mayor
Is that what the master Mason at his lodge told him?","attachment":null,"posted":1714508576},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309047
Great location, nice old buildings, good parks, dope Polish food, well developed waterfront, kind of a no brainer. Taqueria Ramirez slaps. I like Greenpoint. But yeah mere mortals are priced out of Williamsburg/Greenpoint entirely now, LIC/Astoria are next. And the hipster sleeze have moved on to Ridgewood, get in while you still can.


>>4309048
idk, is he a Mason? My knowledge of Masonry is entirely derived from The Man Who Would Be King and that episode of the Simpsons.","attachment":null,"posted":1714509123},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309020
name literally the single greatest composition book EVER made","attachment":null,"posted":1714510925},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309068,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309065
idk, I prefer looking at photo books to books on photography, if that makes sense. Larry Fink on Composition and Improvisation is pretty good. I really look up to Mary Ellen Mark, Donna DeCesare, Irving Penn, Eli Reed, Walker Evans, Josef Koudelka, Rosalind Fox Solomon, Alex Webb, HCB, Elliott Erwitt, An-My Le... it's good to just absorb as much as you can imo.","attachment":null,"posted":1714511400},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309069,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309050
>idk, is he a Mason?
He's a Shabbos goy through and through.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714511549905988.png","filename":"Eric_Adams_FreeMason_Wikipedia.png"},"posted":1714511549},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309071,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309069
In my mind he's just a cop.","attachment":null,"posted":1714511631},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309488,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309020
Going to NYC for the first time in June. Will be staying in downtown Brooklyn for the first half of the week and then I'm not sure for the second half. Thinking Astoria. What area will have unique street opportunities within walking distance? Manhattan seems overdone to me but maybe I should think more outside the box. Queens gives me GTA 4 vibes that have been lingering in my mind for 16 years.

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Same thing.

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Definitely go eat in Queens. Astoria Seafood is sick, Jackson Heights has a bunch of great Indian and Nepalese joints, Flushing has the best Chinese food.

Downtown Brooklyn is kind of office-y, the Dumbo waterfront is bougie and gentrified af, but still kinda nice to wander through. I like Prospect Park and surrounding area quite a bit, there’s a good cheap pool hall on Flatbush, Oceans 8. Check out Red Hook maybe, cool area. Public Records and Nowadays are great for dancing, PR has the better sound system.","attachment":null,"posted":1714655303},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309620,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309525
Thanks. Not big on the night scene. Or Eastern food. But I'll have to try the Chinese since this might be the only chance I have to get some decent stuff.
I'll be staying near Sunset park for the second half of my trip.","attachment":null,"posted":1714684079},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309626,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how many fotos do you save, how and where?","attachment":null,"posted":1714688206},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4309684,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309620
Oh if you like dim sum East Harbor Palace Seafood. Incredible. 8th Ave in Sunset Park is cool.

>>4309626
I save every photo I take. I use an OWC Thunderbay 4 with 4x16TB HDDs in a RAID 5 configuration. That is then backed up remotely with Backblaze.","attachment":null,"posted":1714709863},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Can you post a good photo","attachment":null,"posted":1714828548},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310412,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310036
Sure. Will I? Ehhh. This is more of a Q&A thread.","attachment":null,"posted":1714879110},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Can you prove you are a professional","attachment":null,"posted":1714880275},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309020
Are you and your peers as concerned about AI as the graphic artists are?","attachment":null,"posted":1714880795},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310431,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309020
Do you just snapshit continuous high jpegs and have a phone stuck to your camera constantly uploading them to interns with NX mobile air?","attachment":null,"posted":1714884198},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309020
>Pro
Photographers are 2.50 times more likely to commit suicide than average.

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Yes. I just filed my taxes, so I proved it to the IRS. But in this venue, I’m not going to. So take it as granted and move on.

>>4310420
It’s a background concern, a bit out of my control, so it doesn’t do me much good to worry about it. I just try to focus on improving the product I create, making real photos and films. I think there will still be a market for authentically produced imagery of humans, by humans, so I’m not overly concerned. Certain clients are going to make shit with AI rather than hire a photographer… but those were probably shit clients in the first place, so is that much of a loss? The market does suck right now, but you just gotta keep swimming.

If I were in micro stock or something, I might be freaking out, but that’s a field that’s been racing to the bottom for decades now, so the writing was already on the wall.

>>4310431
I almost never shoot jpegs, I don’t have interns, and I don’t typically have wire service like deadlines, so no.
>>4310460
The moar you know.","attachment":null,"posted":1714908322},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310512,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310492
>So take it as granted and move on
No, you have done nothing to prove your credentials
You are a fraud hungry for attention
A real pro (like Ken Rockwell) would have no problem posting basic snaps at the very least","attachment":null,"posted":1714915763},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310514,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309020
Why was I so excited to buy my first camera but now it's here I never want to use it?","attachment":null,"posted":1714916322},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309020
why would you make a whole thread for yourself and then not share photos?
at least have the decency to not be a nophoto","attachment":null,"posted":1714916811},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310520,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310460
Multi purpose neck strap.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714918288749129.jpg","filename":"Tranny_Camera_Strap.jpg"},"posted":1714918288},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310526,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4310520
>Minolta HRT
How fitting.","attachment":null,"posted":1714918797},{"board":"p","thread":4309020,"pid":4310704,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310514
Because a camera on its own is not exciting, it’s all about what you can use it for. What did you want to photograph, what inspired you to buy the problem? If there’s no answer to that, found the problem.","attachment":null,"posted":1714948303}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why is the best setting?

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Its not.
It should be iso 25","attachment":null,"posted":1714689552},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309630,"name":"BurtGummer","msg":"ISO 100 is where you start to lose detail to grain texture.
Lower than ISO 100 and you start to see softness in images, dynamic range below 100 tends to be sketchy, your shadow details get muddy.

100 and 400 were seen as the standard with film cameras because 100 was for optimal sunny conditions and 400 was recoverable for most other conditions.","attachment":null,"posted":1714690121},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309633,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Glorious ISO 64 in Nikon is better than 100 in all situations.","attachment":null,"posted":1714692000},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309628
Iso 200 for digital cameras not made by liars","attachment":null,"posted":1714693126},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309653,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309636
most ISOs are overrated actually, ie iso 100 = 70 on sony and canon, 50 on olympus and fuji

nikon’s native iso 64 is actually 50","attachment":null,"posted":1714700606},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Auto 100-20k is best on sony","attachment":null,"posted":1714704854},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309732,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309628
usually go for 400-800 because I'm a gittery caffeine goblin and I like my shitter fast

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whatever I need to shoot at the shutter speed I want to shoot at with the aperture I want to shoot at","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714735337589317.jpg","filename":"GigaChad-1.jpg"},"posted":1714735337},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309781,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309628
my D1H only go 200-1600
one migh complaint also lack of resolution, but it is what it is","attachment":null,"posted":1714750280},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309797,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309781
There are far more legitimate criticisms of the D1 series than the resolution.","attachment":null,"posted":1714758065},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309812,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309628
I've come around to your way of thinking, OP.
Motion blur ruins an image worse than noise. And modern cameras look amazing at high ISO.
Minimum shutter speed = 1/200
ISO = unlimited
If it's dark, and you're shooting a still scene, just swap to M mode.","attachment":null,"posted":1714762618},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309828,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309812
>And modern cameras look amazing at high ISO.
SOOC noise reduction doesn't handle the color fog
Capture one doesn't handle the color fog
Lightroom handles the color fog but it also totally destroys color at every ISO unless you turn all its bullshit down, then it doesn't handle the color fog, also lightroom "grain" is super fucking oversharpened and looks like ultrashit","attachment":null,"posted":1714766241},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309833,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309828
Sorry you're having a bad time
SOOC looks fine to me, and everyone outside of 4chan","attachment":null,"posted":1714766696},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309839,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309833
Everyone outside of 4chan is a non-autistic rube that literally cant comprehend fine details. Their normie brain heuristics filter everything not relevant to their goals out. Hence they worshipped the autists for so much of history they came to use a mispronounced version of "autist" for people who could recreate the flawless beauty of creation - "artist".","attachment":null,"posted":1714767225},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309628
I see no problems","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714770699680930.gif","filename":"shrek-snap.gif"},"posted":1714770699},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309812

different user, different preferences, 1/60 - x is the ideal range, my coolpix would be near perfect with 1/60s auto iso firmware update","attachment":null,"posted":1714772112},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309893,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309628
Metering set to -0.5 or -1
ISO: Auto
This is actually the proper way to photograph.

Remember, there's no such thing as a correct ISO. It's not film. It's just electrical gain applied during readout. The electronics can ETTR better than you can fiddling with ISO 100 vs 140 or 200, and on certain devices like phones you can use ISO 46/47/48/49/50/51/52/53/54/55/56.../411/412/413 as needed.
ISO is amplification applied during the digitization process, "proper" (autismo tier accurate) ISO is key to minimizing the effects of visible noise.

Sticking to ISO 100 when a shot calls for slightly more (like 1/3 of a stop) actually degrades quality.
Set EV steps to 1/3 or 1/4 or whatever your camera is capable of and let it handle that bit automatically. Adjust shutter/aperture to get it's "auto" ISO setting as low as it can go, there's no reason to manually control ISO outside of planned photography like setting it on a copystand/tripod and lighting your scene accordingly. In the real world, AUTO ISO is quite literally almost always the best setting. Don't let "iso invariant" retards fool you, there is no such thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1714785255},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309896,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309893
>no such thing as a correct ISO
didn't have to read that far to tl;dr the rest","attachment":null,"posted":1714785816},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309904,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309896
The manufacturers lie about their setting all the time, even if you use a light meter the systems are designed to fool you.
ISO is not a real standard anymore with digital, so there are no correct values anymore.","attachment":null,"posted":1714787344},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309904
>Le manufacturers lie
Have you ever actually looked it up?

Sony/canon/nikon ISOs are all about 1/3 of a stop slower than the film standard is meant to be, barely anything

Only fuji/olympus/panasonic are further off than that (2/3-1 stops slower than stated), because they mostly sell crop sensors and mislabeling ISO makes it easier for the marketing liars to say they have good dynamic range.

>>4309893
>There is no such thing as ISO
Not in dual gain cameras. They have two gain circuits that have different shadow recovery characteristics.
>Sticking to ISO 100 when a shot calls for slightly more (like 1/3 of a stop) actually degrades quality.
No it doesn't because 1/3 of a stop more ISO is within that gain stage, only aperture and shutter speed actually control how much light you get into the camera. That becomes a question when you're choosing say, ISO 200 or 400 on a camera where the second gain stage kicks in between 200 and 400. Then shoot at the second base ISO and you get less noise. If you recover shadows past the second base ISO it also typically looks a bit worse than just shooting at that ISO but who the fuck would recover more than 3 stops of exposure","attachment":null,"posted":1714791031},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309954,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"For some reason one day I woke up and just stopped giving a shit about noise. 400? 800? 1600? Fuck it, we ball. Too noisy? Shrink the image by 20% in post. Looks fine. Fuck the police. Way more important to have a sharp/stable image. Push that shutter speed to the fucking moon. Push it. Force it. Make it your bitch.","attachment":null,"posted":1714794895},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4309956,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309954
Did the same thing
One morning I woke up, glued 4 handfuls of sand to a pair of sunglasses, and walked around wearing them so I could truly immerse myself in the best visual experience man has to offer.","attachment":null,"posted":1714795281},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4311634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309736
>>4309812
>>4309954
Holy mother of based.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715161941573147.jpg","filename":"1711818768947498.jpg"},"posted":1715161941},{"board":"p","thread":4309628,"pid":4311644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Now that ISO invariance is a thing there is no reason (except jpegs) to change ISO on the camera rather than shooting at 100 and pushing 6 stops in post. You're just throwing away headroom for no benefit. I don't know why they don't just make ISO an exif field that tells your RAW program to push it rather than changing the actual pixel values.
>>4309893
>The electronics can ETTR better than you can fiddling with ISO
They could, but they don't because camera manufacturers are stuck in this dumb "muh jay pegs must look good" mindset. It would be so easy with mirrorless, you're reading off the whole frame anyway, you could just find the brightest pixel and adjust exposure so that the brightest channel is at 2^14 or whatever the max pixel value is. Nikon even has a mode that claims to do this ("highlight-weighted metering") but I've caught it both over and underexposing the raw files presumably to make the jpegs look better.","attachment":null,"posted":1715167107}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310110,"name":"Zach","msg":"Have you all actually tried these lenses? They're pretty cool.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714844495704247.jpg","filename":"images (6).jpg"},"posted":1714844495},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310152,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310110
Manual Zuikos? Yeah I have a 50mm 1.4 and its great, but it has a very modern, clinical look to the pictures, not really what youd expect from vintage glass.","attachment":null,"posted":1714849546},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310159,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310152
Does it remind you of Zeiss glass?","attachment":null,"posted":1714852053},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310110
far worse, i have them. they have a weird color cast.

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Canonet ql17 with porta 400, compare, to...

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...Lolympus. Different day, similar exposure tho.

Using them on digital there's a dull yellow/green tint depending on the lens

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Not even close.","attachment":null,"posted":1714853959},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310180,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310168
Nice colors

>>4310169
Wtf.","attachment":null,"posted":1714856155},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310193,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310169
Thoriated glass? I have a super-shitumar 50/1.4 which goes yellow over time","attachment":null,"posted":1714857698},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310195,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310167
Their color cast looks good on a t2i.","attachment":null,"posted":1714857795},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310196,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310195
No it does not.","attachment":null,"posted":1714857944},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310199,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310196
Well at least I have plenty of money to buy food and rent instead of using most of it on camera gear.","attachment":null,"posted":1714858034},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310199
Do you really think nobody here makes actual money? The shitty film camera above seems to come with a personal pool hall.","attachment":null,"posted":1714860293},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310218,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310216
Well after since seeing the infamous video of the photographer who uses his disability checks on buying cheap film, kinda.","attachment":null,"posted":1714860418},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310218
That was you.","attachment":null,"posted":1714860455},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310222,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310219
Thank you","attachment":null,"posted":1714861948},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310195
It doesn't at all","attachment":null,"posted":1714862108},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310225,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310224
Alrighty then, what vintage lens do you think looks good on the T2i?","attachment":null,"posted":1714862234},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310193
There are two main versions of the Super-Takumar, the original version had 8 elements and contained no thorium, but my usage had a slight yellow tint anyway. Maybe the later versions just have it worse.","attachment":null,"posted":1714862517},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310232,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310230
I've heard a lot about those lenses. M42 mount right?","attachment":null,"posted":1714862822},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310308,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have the 55 1.2. Managed to snag one with a camera body for $150. It is a fun lens, but clearly vintage. Bokeh is strange and it has lots of chromatic aberrations.","attachment":null,"posted":1714869761},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310168
>>4310169
are you the dogfucker of /p/?","attachment":null,"posted":1714870955},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310110

Use them in my Olympus om1 it’s part of getting that look from that era.
Using my modern Nikon primes on the f100 produces something that looks halfway between film and digital.
I much prefer film with these older style lenses.","attachment":null,"posted":1714871765},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310328
No, that's your mother.","attachment":null,"posted":1714875704},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310159
Not particularly, but Zeiss has a certain niche, and a lens doesn't have to be Zeiss-like to be good","attachment":null,"posted":1714878732},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310434,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310232
Yes, but they'll adapt rather easily to modern mirrorless (DSLRs are S.O.L. though, since the back element gets in the mirror's way). The Takumar 50s are also known for their heavy flaring when wide open. Pic related is f/1.4.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714885199450844.jpg","filename":"MDR_1606-edit-5-4.jpg"},"posted":1714885199},{"board":"p","thread":4310110,"pid":4310464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310434
This is probably a better example.

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>>4310148

That and I also doubt that he realises at all what is happening here. I am quite certain now that ol' zacherino is legally retarded. He just doesn't know better. It's not a choice that he ignores all and every single hint or justified critique, but he is simply unable to process it and to reflect it on himself just for a second.
A tragic figure, but also fascinating. Reminds me a bit of the Drachenlord.

The internet should never have opened up for normies.

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Swing and a miss...","attachment":null,"posted":1714850993},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310157,"name":"Zach","msg":"How about you go for a walk outside photographing nature outdoors. Come back home and drink a nice cold glass of water","attachment":null,"posted":1714851073},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310158,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310156
maybe I'm the legally retarded....damns","attachment":null,"posted":1714851188},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310184,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310157
Zach, why did you ignore my request to do a self critique? We all want to see you grow and become a better photographer, but you have to drop the ego and look objectively at your work.","attachment":null,"posted":1714856648},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310188,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310184
It's okay anon. I'm improving as a guy with a camera.

No worries I know you have let out all that energy at something.","attachment":null,"posted":1714857382},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310194,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310188
Sad! I hope you know that people would be treating you far far better if you weren't acting like a petulant child.","attachment":null,"posted":1714857707},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310197,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310194
And lose my childlike zeal and passion with using a camera? Nah, I'm good being a childish photographer.","attachment":null,"posted":1714857954},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310197
I see none of that in your photography. You're still far below the ability to express those things through photography.","attachment":null,"posted":1714858068},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310203,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310200
Well at least I'm taking photos for me.","attachment":null,"posted":1714858276},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310211,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310155
I’m trans BTW","attachment":null,"posted":1714859252},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310212,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310211
Hmmm... I wonder if there are any transgender photographers in the world. I do remember one talking about getting a Panasonic mirrorless camera on a discord.","attachment":null,"posted":1714859370},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310188
>I'm improving as a guy with a camera.
No, you're not. We seen your photos.

>>4310197
>Nah, I'm good being a childish photographer.
No, you're not. You came to us asking how to get people to like your photos.
(Dropping the ego is also really good advice, both for photography and in general. But it's something you'll never be able to make yourself do.)

>>4310203
No, you're not. You keep waving them around in public hoping for praise, and when you don't get that you got so distraught that you risked "the rats" screwing up your imgur and youtube pages.

Lying about these things when you've just shoved proof of how things really are down our throats isn't going to get you anywhere. The only one you might fool is yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1714864577},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">so butthurt makes thread to announce how butthurt he is
>LISTEN TO MY ADVICE REEEEEEEE
>I'll have you know I may be autistic but at least I'm not retarded","attachment":null,"posted":1714864787},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310258,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310255
I think he made the thread because out of sheer amazement and shock at the spectacle of the hyper autist known as Zack.","attachment":null,"posted":1714865151},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310259,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310254
Okay? I'll improve on my photography.","attachment":null,"posted":1714865190},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310263,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310258
he seems pretty normal? Idk maybe you just don't get out much","attachment":null,"posted":1714865369},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310259
You won't","attachment":null,"posted":1714865624},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310267,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310263
I'm not normal! My autism makes me special!","attachment":null,"posted":1714865744},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310294,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310267
Man other Zach, did you know there are a ton of people on the spectrum who are into photography like yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1714869212},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310298,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310263
Stick around and wait til you see some more of his threads. He’s basically our resident schizo","attachment":null,"posted":1714869405},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310300,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310298
Cool are we gonna sit around and eat popcorn?","attachment":null,"posted":1714869493},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310358,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310300
Yes, watching you continue to make an absolute fool out of yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1714872558},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310363,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310358
Okay then, cool.","attachment":null,"posted":1714872747},{"board":"p","thread":4310155,"pid":4310687,"name":"Zach","msg":"It's not my fault I appreciate the comfort of men in the evening
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How are ALL of your negatives just COVERED in shit??????? What are you doing??????","attachment":null,"posted":1714927988},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4310607,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4310599
prolly hard water, it tastes like shit too","attachment":null,"posted":1714929012},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313496,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"are you not editing you digital shots at all or something? film is not normally this much better.","attachment":null,"posted":1715654587},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313510,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313496
Film is ff, the m8 is crop","attachment":null,"posted":1715658027},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313520,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4313496
How do you mean?","attachment":null,"posted":1715661331},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310293
Leica M8 actually holding up really well. I understand the Leica meme now, 90% as good as 35mm film but none of the expense or issues developing rolls. Great thread, I'm looking at M8s on eBay right now because of it LOL.","attachment":null,"posted":1715663273},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313540,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4310293
lel are you really a raggare? I thought the anon that claimed so was bullshitting about everything because he also said you were me and cinefag","attachment":null,"posted":1715665535},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313541,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310293
every single film photo posted here is already film AND digital though??? Not really sure what your point making this thread is unless it is just your clever way of saying film photography thread","attachment":null,"posted":1715666185},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313543,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4313540
nah im just some dude who likes and owns an old car

>>4313541
har har har very funny have a gold star","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715666498589398.jpg","filename":"good reply.jpg"},"posted":1715666498},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313552,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313540
>he still thinks it's one person that believes that
Just admit you're the same person.","attachment":null,"posted":1715668522},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313554,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313531
please be bait please be bait please be bait
the LEICA looks fucking AWFUL dude JFC i hate this board","attachment":null,"posted":1715668631},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Crazy how much better the highlight detail is on film. Only colours and sharpness are slightly better on shitital","attachment":null,"posted":1715671065},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310293
What film were you using? I quite like the look of it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715714209},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313730,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4313724
gold 200 developed in the cs41 kit accordingly to standard instructions, scanned on a Nikon Coolscan LS2000 and Vuescan, inverted in lightroom with negative lab pro","attachment":null,"posted":1715714969},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Other than some troll setting very yellow auto WB on the leica they rook arike","attachment":null,"posted":1715715687},{"board":"p","thread":4310293,"pid":4313736,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4313734
nah its just me not having an ir cut filter yet, the m8 likes to make fabrics purple and foliage yellow

here, i made an edit just for you, didn't touch the white balance at all, just hue-shifted the yellows into green

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Thanks. I might try to bulk buy some gold when I get back into shooting 35mm. Seems like an acceptable quality alternative to portra without the assrape price.","attachment":null,"posted":1715716206}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone have experience with wide primes? I was looking at either the 20mm f2.8 or the newer 20 f1.8
I was previously using a 12-24 f4 but it got damaged so I wanted to try something else

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The Z mount 20mm S lens is in another league altogether.","attachment":null,"posted":1714572217},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309260
Astrophotography is something I’ve done before with lesser lenses so thanks for that suggestion, I think the 1.8 would be better for me of the 20mms, any other wide primes you could suggest?","attachment":null,"posted":1714579345},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309297,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309255

i think this was 20mm f/2.8 af-d plus uv-filter, not sure though

most images came without flare","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714579939473411.jpg","filename":"20mm.jpg"},"posted":1714579939},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309300,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309294
There’s a 15 3.5 that’s pretty spectacular but you’re giving up a full stop and it’s pricier. I think 20 is the sweet spot in terms of being ultrawide but not looking too crazy. Otherwise there’s the excellent 14-24 f/2.8 holy trinity lens, but that’s a heckin chonker.","attachment":null,"posted":1714580153},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309300
Nice lens but yeah that thing is massive, plus attached to a giant FF body you got a brick","attachment":null,"posted":1714662224},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"There's a few modern-ish MF wide primes too, Irix 15 2.4, Rokinon 14 2.4, maybe some others. I don't have any myself though, besides a MF RMC Tokina 24 2.8.
There are also some good deals on 17-35 2.8-4 tamron (which is reasonably sized too), but I have no idea how good that is.","attachment":null,"posted":1714678387},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309686,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The Nikon 17-35 is pretty nice I will say. Temper your expectations, it’s not as good as a 14-24 in the 17-24 range nor as good as the 24-70 from 24-35… but it’s a solid performer taken on its own merits. The 20-35, do not bother.","attachment":null,"posted":1714710182},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309717,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309255
>>14508214
https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/brice-rhodes-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-2016-triple-murder-conviction/article_e08c90c8-e149-11ee-ba90-3f2bb0cd6309.html

Racist KKK white pig retard who discriminates against Asians should kill himself.","attachment":null,"posted":1714727274},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309717
the fuck

>>4309255
ive been eyeing the viltrox 20/2.8 (for mirrorless) - its tiny and ridiculously cheap ($160), plus the reviews say its not at all bad. maybe its worth trying it for the price without blasting big money on a lens thats twice the size and has similiar performance(?)","attachment":null,"posted":1714732275},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309737,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ive been looking at picking up an FD 24mm f/2.8 for my F1 New. Decent prices on Ebay. I have a 28mm f/3.5 which performs surprisingly well. Does anyone have any experience with the Canon FD wides?","attachment":null,"posted":1714735970},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4309877,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309255
I own a 21 mm F 2.8 Zeiss Great amazing lens","attachment":null,"posted":1714779217},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4311424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309731
bought the 20/2.8 mentioned and its fantastic considering the price.","attachment":null,"posted":1715108586},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4311441,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309260
>The Z mount 20mm S lens is in another league altogether.

I think this is the lens that actually convinced me to finally switch over to mirrorless. I can't decide between the ZF and the Z8, though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715111026},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4311471,"name":"Zach","msg":"Wide lenses are especially useful if you're stuck in cramped areas while filming or photographing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715118079},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4311472,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309255
>I was previously using a 12-24 f4 but it got damaged
What'd you do to it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715118182},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4311661,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311472
Dropped it and cracked the composite frame, the lens elements are ok but now the left side of pictures are out of focus","attachment":null,"posted":1715174341},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4311824,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311441
Z8 if you have the funds, no question. No mechanical shutter to fail, higher resolution, insane burst modes, native 64 ISO, it’s a do everything wonder machine. That Zf a cutie tho. If I were only adapting vintage lenses or shooting with manual Voigtlanders or I cared about how a camera looks, I might choose it over a Z8.

>>4311471
That’s right Zach, very good.","attachment":null,"posted":1715215231},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4311853,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309255
Yeah. I shot for years with Nik’s wild 14mm aspherical prime. I loved the shit out of that big glass monster. Easily my fave lens of all time. BUT the plebs hated the distortion & the optics are circa-2000 so lenses have gotten a good bit sharper since then. It was fine & great on my FA through my D2x & 36mp D810e, bc the resolving power of the glass and the sensor were about equal. ...but when I plop it on my Z7 at 45mp I can see the difference between it and the Zeiss 18mm Batis. And the Batis + Megadap II are half the size & weight of the 14mm + FTZ. And the AF works on the Batis, unlike the 14 with the FTZ breaking AF. So fml, my 14 is in my eBay pile. :(","attachment":null,"posted":1715219397},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4311876,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311441
I have the ZF, a Z7, and my Dad has the Z8. Man that Z8 is a bunch of camera to haul around. The ZF is as big as I want to go on a body ever. The 6/7/II’s are damn near perfect. ...the ZF’s size is different, bc they turned the battery to lay flat, so it made the body wider, but it’s nice if you want to snuggle a camera in a jacket pocket bc pop the lens off, and between the grip and the eyepiece the whole body is actually thinner than even my classic film cameras. I’m able to transport it and the Z 28mm lens in my light summer jacket pockets on the plane & into places where I’d otherwise not be able to get a good camera. Also the ZF has an incredibly good feel in the hand, that sounds superficial if you’re an aspie nerd that thinks the only aspect of photography is edge sharpness in ur photos, but if you’re a fully functional human being that understands why a Sony is a miserable camera to shoot with, then you’ll also appreciate an equally-spaced improvement beyond the old 90’s plastic & rubber blob body designs we think of as current. The ZF is a fucking metal brick of a camera and it feels fucking gooood to shoot with.","attachment":null,"posted":1715223404},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4311879,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311876
I’m just pissed that Nikon shit the bed and put the ducking 24mpx sensor in it just like the Z6. WTF. They should have put the 36mp sensor in it. That’d make considerably more sense in their lineup.","attachment":null,"posted":1715223651},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4311891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311879
Gotta save something for the ZfII","attachment":null,"posted":1715225598},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4312386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311879
I personally feel that the 24mpx sensor was a good choice. Its enough for 99% of the work youre probably gonna be doing and.. Who doesnt like a big ass pixel you know.","attachment":null,"posted":1715345415},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4312405,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311876
>i am a real person and people who dont like this camera are fake people
And you autists wonder why larp camera fanboys get bullied","attachment":null,"posted":1715349211},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4312596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309686
This","attachment":null,"posted":1715382797},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4312604,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309686
What's wrong with the 20-35mm?
Not enough range?","attachment":null,"posted":1715386296},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4312625,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312604
Notoriously a soft lens. Not worth what you can get for the same price with nicer lenses","attachment":null,"posted":1715390100},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4312627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312604
You mean besides the fl range? It’s such a meme lol. Why is everyone making these super weird seemingly pointless “lite” zooms? Canon put out a 24-50, sigma has the old 24-35, are they normie fodder?","attachment":null,"posted":1715390461},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4312846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311824
I'm kind of leaning towards the Z8 just because it's the second-newest camera in their lineup and the ZF has a fairly deprecated sensor. So does the Z8, but i can live with that for the megapixels and insane stacked sensor performance. I usually make cameras last at least 8 to 10 years, so $3500 ain't too bad.

I might also yolo and get a canon r6 ii instead, though. Feeling spunky.","attachment":null,"posted":1715461838},{"board":"p","thread":4309255,"pid":4313986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"OP here I'm glad I ordered the 20mm 1.8 when I did, it arrived just in time for the Northern Lights last weekend.
>>4309260
The 1.8 came in handy for sure. If I had just used my 10-20 f4 lens it would not have looked this great

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First about to buy the Fujifilm XV100, didn't so almost ordered a Ricoh griii hdf, kept going and looking at Olympus Pen F, nope. Now I am at Sigma fp.

now considering Nikon d70s, for ccd

Where does this stop? :o
Where does this path finally end?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714953424083261.jpg","filename":"images (8).jpg"},"posted":1714953424},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4310725,"name":"sage","msg":"weak bait. kys faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1714953473},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4310726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"By just considering buying and then not, you’re already two steps ahead of most gearheads. Good job keep it up.","attachment":null,"posted":1714953712},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4310727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Buy a Nikon Z6II+26mm f2.8 and install capture one","attachment":null,"posted":1714954044},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4310799,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"It'll continue until you find the camera that fits you the best.
The hobbyist life is a costly endeavour.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714968737880319.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240506_061158_781.jpg"},"posted":1714968737},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4310815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310724
I have a D80 CCD and had a D90 CMOS. the difference is negligible desu, both have Sony sensors. maybe get a Kodak CCD like an Epson RD1(s) or Leica M8.
but out of practicality, if you need those dedicated buttons and maybe a viewfinder, just get any smol, lightweigt dedicated camera that you will bring most of the time with you.","attachment":null,"posted":1714972871},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4310975,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310815
smol, dedicated, lightweight?

omg no, I need a gf not a camera
Is this what this is!?","attachment":null,"posted":1715027354},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4311418,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310724
It ends when you decides it ends. I rediscovered a photo I took a couple year ago and I thought it was decent. Then I remembered my hating it because my camera is shitty and makes a bunch of grain. I tried to find some bullshit ai app to try to fix it but it didn't work. Now I like the roughness of it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715107708},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4311420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311418
It actually ends when you have a very nice camera, and a very shit camera. The gulf between the two will make you appreciate each.

Don't fall for the film meme that just starts a whole other gearfaggotry quest full of cope because the sunk costs only grow and there are no refunds.","attachment":null,"posted":1715107923},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4311427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310724
It never ends. You will eventually find something like >>4310799 said. But what happens then is that your style of shooting will change, or your hobbies outside photography will change, or your subject matter will change and then you'll start the whole process over again. It really never ends, learn to enjoy it and only buy what you can afford to lose 30% of your money on.

It's either that or start shooting film.","attachment":null,"posted":1715109118},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4311429,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311427
lets be real "normal" interchangeable lens cameras fit everything you could do perfectly well and it takes borderline schizophrenic neuroticism like "everyone can see my camera because it has a viewfinder bump and its ruining my shots and it looks so much bigger on pxlmag" to convince yourself otherwise","attachment":null,"posted":1715109288},{"board":"p","thread":4310724,"pid":4311475,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4310815
>a Kodak CCD like an Epson RD1(s)
I thought the R-D1 used the same Sony-made sensor as the Nikon D100 and the Pentax istD.","attachment":null,"posted":1715118988}]} {"title":"Film General Thread /fgt/","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309008,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Pentax 645n edition

Previous thread>>4307062

/fgt/ daily reminder (courtesy by anon): one stop per decade is (generally) bullshit
>negative film ages better than positive
>black and white better than color
>slow films better than fast
>storage conditions (dry/cool) matter more than years
>Negative film is shot 1 or 2 stops overexposed and then PULLED in development so that you build more density in the exposure and develop less such that the fog is limited
>slide/positive film is shot at box speed or overexposed and pulled.
>if you home develop you can also use benzotriazole as a restrainer for the the first developer in E6 process


Useful links
>[massive dev chart] gives times for home film development
https://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php
>[film dev] shows results of development regimes
https://filmdev.org/
>[news & community links]
35mmc.com
casualphotophile.com
kosmofoto.com
emulsive.org
japancamerahunter.com

Thread Question
Do you prefer medium format or 35mm film? Why?

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>Do you prefer medium format or 35mm film? Why?
Medium format, because of the large negatives (absurd IQ, large area covered in great detail)
Also because it's cool as fuck. Love the process, the extra time it takes
And 120 slides are the shit
For quick scenes I prefer 35mm tho of course

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Large format. Bigger always equals better.","attachment":null,"posted":1714504846},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309014,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"35mm film is simply photography meets physical reality, it's fun and you should do your own dev and scans with budget gear
Medium format is like shooting digital but worse, muh pixel level quality, there's nothing special about it at all but potentially an extra stop of toneh
4x5 and up is where it gets good again because the standard movements you can use are greater than those on 35mm perspective control lenses, but if you're not doing that it's just resolution wank for people who plan on coping hardcore when their drum scans get btfo by a $3500 gfx100s off ebay","attachment":null,"posted":1714505041},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309023,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309014
The final form of large format photography is making contact prints, and then the final form of printing is not with silver. It is with platinum and other "better" metals that provide richer colors with the widest tonal range possible.","attachment":null,"posted":1714505877},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309014
So I should put my money into large format and ditch my 120 toy camera?","attachment":null,"posted":1714506716},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309028,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309008
>Do you prefer medium format or 35mm film?

I like 35mm more. Specifically, interchangeable lens rangefinder cameras. They're small relative to medium format or slrs. Some can fit in my pocket. Very fun to shoot. I also like to larp as HCB sometimes. Pic unrelated.

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Yes, but you must print your negatives.","attachment":null,"posted":1714506883},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309030
Opposed to what, a scanning rig?","attachment":null,"posted":1714507462},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309008
Depends on the subject matter but recently I've fallen in love with large format.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714507708097052.jpg","filename":"20240312_182121.jpg"},"posted":1714507708},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309036
Yes.

>>4309008
I will also say that a full AF 35mm camera is great to have for casual shooting. Whether that's something like a 1v, f5, T3, G1, etc. All are good.

For medium format the best cameras are zone focused, wide angle, and in formats 6×7 or greater. The graflex slxw is a perfect example.","attachment":null,"posted":1714507761},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’ve got this expired BW film, but I’ve never done my own development or had a darkroom before. Should I take my chances on this film or sell it to someone who can actually use it properly and I just buy HP5 to do at home?

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use the trix and develop at home, sell the neopan to some hipster cunt.
>>4309014
I want to shoot 4x5 just to make contact print cyanotypes lmao

I am too lazy to look into any other process","attachment":null,"posted":1714508125},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309046,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309037
That's hot. Makes my iv look old and tired. 5 or a master with a rangefinder?

Do you have any cammed lenses, or plans to get any?","attachment":null,"posted":1714508394},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309051,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309046
Master with Rangefinder, 50 Jahre Limited Edition. That's a Schneider Super Symmar XL 110mm f/5.6 105° and I had a custom cam made! Initially bought it cause I wanted to do 6x17 but I didn't want to buy a hyper specialized camera when I could buy an LF and get a Shen Hao film back for it. Only did I realize after the fact that I actually love the 28mm equivalent look it has and I've started using it for street portraiture very recently.","attachment":null,"posted":1714509140},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309026
Yes, you should do absolutely everything random people online tell you to

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Don’t tell me what to do","attachment":null,"posted":1714510174},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309072,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309008
And here we have the kind of /fgt/ OP a cum-guzzling retard posts.
Indistinguishable from the 28 (!) other threads started with a generic gear photo stolen from google, and even worse than 5 of those because
they're very obviously film cameras where this is just a black plastic blob with a white badge on top like any other modern camera.
Not even cropped square or given text or a border to make it look like a general.
Do you like the feeling you get when you're the op little babby-retard?
HOT TIP, PUT FILM IN THE FILM GENERAL OP","attachment":null,"posted":1714511791},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309072
Calm the fuck down, that's actually my camera. We set up a white box and took that photo for the thread.","attachment":null,"posted":1714511971},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309088,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how do I get into medium format without spending a shit load of money? I'm not talking about the film itself, a 15 roll of 120 for using 645 cameras costs the same as a 36 roll of portra so I literally don't care about that. but the cameras themselves are fucking stupid money for a mirror box and a lens, they don't even come with prisms 99% of the time and those cost as much as the rest of the camera, oh you wanted a film back so you can actually take pictures? $400, oh you wanted a dark slide with your film back? fuck you $120, no none of this works I found all this shit in the hands of a skeleton trapped in a car in the hudson river, [MINT++++] no offers, no returns, you organise freight.

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Just get a holga lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1714514880},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309094,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309088
a TLR like a Yashica or if you are really broke a Lubitel.","attachment":null,"posted":1714515541},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309099,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309089
>>4309094
But holgas and TLRs are fucking gay","attachment":null,"posted":1714516789},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309088
Take 4 photos on 35mm and tape them together","attachment":null,"posted":1714516834},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309102,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309100
buy a pentacon six then nigga","attachment":null,"posted":1714517045},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309110,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309099
Make a pinhole camera that uses an entire sheet of 120 film, 120 back for a 4x5 camera, or if you feel especially based get a mamiya universal or a graflex sl.","attachment":null,"posted":1714519034},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309112,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309039
Shoot Tri-X at 200 and see if you get results
If it's still good, it'll look good
If it's gone bad, it'll still look good becuz pulling
This will give you an idea of how they were stored
Shoot Acros as 100 if the tests with Tri-X come out good, or adjust accordingly
Acros is one of the most beautiful B&W films I've ever shot, and these are first generation from what I see which is the best (in my opinion)
For Cinestill 400D just... whatever, shoot something unimportant with it
>as god intended","attachment":null,"posted":1714520801},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309115,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309039
I shot expired tri-x at 200 and it still came out even grainier than usual. Overexpose for sure.","attachment":null,"posted":1714521096},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309121,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309014
>extra stop of toneh
?
Can you translate this to plain English for those of us without brain damage?","attachment":null,"posted":1714523375},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309122,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309051
>I had a custom cam made!
True rich bois found the thread it sounds like.","attachment":null,"posted":1714523491},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309099
You want to play with the big boys, you gotta pay like the big boys, faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1714523577},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309088
>>4309099
>>4309100
>>4309110
>>4309124
Let me guess, you "need" more?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714525095795772.jpg","filename":"CJ026_AGFA_SYNCHRO_BOX_5c13c23735902c1c5f09e800e29a58ab.jpg"},"posted":1714525095},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309128,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309110
>>4309124
>>4309126
fuuucckk, fine, i'll drop $1k on a mamiya 645 pro setup. would you recommend just going with a zoom for medium format or stick with primes? I can probably afford a basic ass 50 and 80/100mm but not a whole kit for every focal length under the sun.

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A beautiful set up, and it's incredibly based you chose a rangefinder master.

Hope you share a pic or two one day!

>>4309122
I think they're around 300ish dollars to have made by one of the few people left that can do it. Pennies compared to the camera and lens he is using.","attachment":null,"posted":1714525855},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309130,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309121
all cool people know what it means.","attachment":null,"posted":1714525931},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309131,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309128
645 is ultra cringe.
67 is ultra based.

You're going to shoot MEDIUM FORMAT! OWN IT!!! None of this baby shit!
I hate the ergonomics on my mamiya rz67 pro also.","attachment":null,"posted":1714526056},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309128
>zoom lens
>medium format
are you retarded son","attachment":null,"posted":1714526205},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309131
i'm not made of money, 645 is already 4x the area of 35mm and I don't own a digital camera capable of fully capturing that much detail as is
>>4309132
perhaps, so 80mm and a long boi like a 200mm for antisocial behaviour? (just realised 50 is instashit fov and I don't actually use wide angle ever)","attachment":null,"posted":1714526458},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309135,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309132
Brother, he has no legs.","attachment":null,"posted":1714526479},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309141,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309128
>>4309131
>he doesn't shoot a 6x9 Soviet fold out
ngmi","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714529382066195.jpg","filename":"PXL_20240423_214151211~2.jpg"},"posted":1714529382},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309144,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309054
>>4309011
I made a shitload of mistakes with my last roll
Guess I just had a lot going on in my head
I still kinda like these double exposed cats tho

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Oh god im gonna ZOOM
-zoomar

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Have a cigarette and a shit man. Your on a thread about film cameras on an obscure montenegran bread baking board. No need to have a hemmeroid","attachment":null,"posted":1714536811},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309165,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309128
You can get the camera in the OP with a lens in the OP for like, $700 on ebay.","attachment":null,"posted":1714536918},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309150
I kneel, pentacon six truly is the goat system.","attachment":null,"posted":1714539496},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309088
gw690 its just werks, just don't forget the lens cap
(only get 8 shots )","attachment":null,"posted":1714539846},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309169,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309074
Instantly rekt nice work OP","attachment":null,"posted":1714539900},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309181,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309054
how do I get better at my editing?
picrel is the labscan, previous post is my edit from the DNG file
Although the colors look closer to real life in my editing, there's a shitload of parts where information is pretty much lost, it seems
And overall the lab scan is more pleasant
I normally can edit my photos properly and fairly well, but this one is driving me crazy
Thanks","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714541712684674.jpg","filename":"[0] Kodak Gold 400 - 120_medres.jpg"},"posted":1714541712},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309184,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4309181
Get the exposure right first and foremost but you already know that.
Then get adobe lightroom and negative lab pro. Its fucking impossible to get the colours right in just camera raw.
Piracy is always justified btw.","attachment":null,"posted":1714542921},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309186,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309088
Mamiya 645","attachment":null,"posted":1714543402},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309188,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309181
the colors are absolutely fucked in this photo, invest in some fucking light seals for your camera first. best I can do for "crunchy hipster warzone shit". it's mostly brush masks to cover up all the green and yellow flares, then clarity jacked to the moon. but realistically the image is just unsalvageable.

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Nice picture but you forgot to crop the frame markings","attachment":null,"posted":1714548338},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309198,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309088

Bronicas are probably your best pick, best budget to quality ratio.","attachment":null,"posted":1714551680},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309220,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309169
>12kb
>300px
Its a lie you fucking dipshit","attachment":null,"posted":1714558419},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309244,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309011
I used to think this way until I got really good lenses on 35mm. And with a high res scan the resolution is in line with 120 while being so much more portable and dynamic as a camera.","attachment":null,"posted":1714568030},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309198
bronicas look like shit tho","attachment":null,"posted":1714569725},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309184
It was metered for 200 as it should (Kodak Gold 200), but the next couple of photos I metered as 800 by mistake
To compensate I shot the rest of the roll as 400 and developed it as 400 as well so that I could get workable results across the whole roll
So the film is pushed and this is one stop overexposed, unfortunately
>get adobe lightroom and negative lab pro
>Its fucking impossible to get the colours right in just camera raw
I've been using only camera raw to edit my photos and 99% of the time it suffices, but I'll look into Lightroom and Lab Pro
I already have Lightroom installed but I've never got the hang of it, the whole thing was confusing as fuck
But I'll watch some tutorials online
>Piracy is always justified btw.
yeah I'm not giving them a penny lol
>>4309188
>the colors are absolutely fucked in this photo
yes, it's pushed and overexposed
I don't normally shoot like this, though
This whole roll was ridden with silly mistakes I've never made in years shooting
>Lightseals
Lightseals are fine, the crazy color blobs are something else
>>4309192
I kinda liked them there for this one

Thank you all for helping me out, fellas
Guess I'll just finally have to learn how to use Lightroom for when Camera Raw ain't enough","attachment":null,"posted":1714571272},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309258,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309129
Actually I did already it was kind of a boring photo of the beach, and another one of a window with stickers. Both were really weak but they were the only ones that came out well-- turns out I shouldn't have trusted the film holders that came free with the camera. The camera itself was mint in box condition but it's been in that box for 30 years so I had to spend about 1,750 to have it overhauled and revamped. 150 of which was for the custom cam for that lens. 75 for infinity stops. 300 for new authentic bellows. All in all I spent about 3,500 on that camera but that's still a great deal compared to buying a new Master Technika Classic now.

I just recently shot another 10 photos but using brand new Toyo View film holders so I'm really excited to see the new results.

Regarding the lens, yeah I found it new in box as well. Got a great deal on it considering it came with free testing, and free new in box Center Filter IIIb that can cost as much as a lens as well.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714571678763376.jpg","filename":"20240407_164551.jpg"},"posted":1714571678},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309259,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309192
The original term 'full frame' used to mean a photo with frame edge/markings. Some photographers like having the frame edge to show off the fact that they didn't crop to correct. It's a purist thing with some people.

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What part did you not like? Look it up, the term originates from cinematography. Sometimes used to also be called full gate, meaning no reframing was needed it was the 'full frame'. Term migrated to stills from there. I was merely explaining why some people prefer those edge markings or a black frame around their negative and where that style originated from.

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Gx680 for the bicep workout and one extra frame per roll.
>you vs the camera she tells you not to worry about

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>i shoot film so that others can see me using a cool retro looking camera and think im cool
Anon how about you shoot your cock off instead, you’re already a homosexual. And just get an x100 if you just care about the fashion larp","attachment":null,"posted":1714574625},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309008
Generally medium format, because you get such an amazing slide from it compared to 35mm film and even with expired B+W film the grain is almost un-noticable on 6x7

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>roleplaying being LF","attachment":null,"posted":1714577648},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309286,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309284
Larger than a press camera even

Fuji always has been a larp company","attachment":null,"posted":1714578037},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309298,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309276
>Anon how about you shoot your cock off instead
Don't be so harsh.
He might not be able to purchase a firearm where he is.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714580020340362.png","filename":"Trent_Gates_Penectomy_Powerbottom.png"},"posted":1714580020},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309302,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309276
>allegedly does photography
>doesn’t care about aesthetics

Odd flex","attachment":null,"posted":1714580328},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309302
You're making a massive error here, and it's thinking retro chic is the only acceptable aesthetic, rather than just the one that matches your purse the best. That's ok, most hipsters have autism spectrum disorder and a major symptom is impaired theory of mind so the afflicted are literally unable to comprehend that their preferences are not simple facts.","attachment":null,"posted":1714581159},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309313,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309310
To put it in fashion terms, retro larp camera people are the "supreme gentlemen" clinging to <40mm automatic watches and casually wearing 3 piece suits, with hats, or they are women (who actually can wear tiny watches and 3 piece suits with hats)","attachment":null,"posted":1714581864},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309317,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309313
Lol you don’t know anything about fashion","attachment":null,"posted":1714583163},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309321,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309286
Huh, you're right. Right down to them stealing the rangefinder look to LARP as one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714583669},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309322,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309274
How is the 645? I was thinking of getting one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714583989},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309317
No, that's pretty accurate. Leicas and silver crapboxes are the fedoras and seiko 5s of cameras. There to show others what you are (a twat). A bronica or a hassy 500, or even more ideally, a view camera, is actually more fashionable if used by a well dressed man who truly understands that photography is dangerous. It disrespects the subject, and it places a wall between the photographer and their own life, therefore it should be done purposefully and the camera ought not be a lifestyle item but a refined tool that is brought out to fulfill its duty and put back away. The act of using it alone is aesthetic, it is not a mere toy, it is not an addiction, it is not an all consuming, identity defining act. The painter does not carry his easel everywhere, but when he is at it, he is focused, he is serene, and he is himself the portrait of artistry. Purpose, vision, a calculated act of creativity that is uniquely human, far above the level of a monkey smearing shit on a wall and making noise. So it is with cameras - are you a monkey trained to press a button, or a man creating an image?","attachment":null,"posted":1714584125},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Autistic delusion.","attachment":null,"posted":1714584892},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309323
agreed compact cameras are ironically the most intrusive and obnoxious cameras. they're always there, always snip snapping and producing worthless "moment" photos nobody will look at more than once like "my cat looking cute #708" and "my kids smiling #1043"

big camera chads simply have a higher aesthetic, in the act and in the result.
also see: phones, the new leica. a simple device. simply intrusive. simply obnoxious. nobody can escape it, and nobody can put the fucking thing down and go somewhere without it. it's almost disrespectful. is the photographer really in control of the camera, or is the camera in control of the photographer?","attachment":null,"posted":1714585075},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309332,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309323
>>4309330
Absolutely based.

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>>4309330
>Never learned to paint and it's constantly butthurt about it
Many such cases","attachment":null,"posted":1714587298},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309348,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309347
>t. walking cctv camera suffering from celluloid madness","attachment":null,"posted":1714587394},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309323
Again, you have no idea what a well dressed man is.","attachment":null,"posted":1714587437},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309350,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309349
certainly not someone who thinks silver crapboxes are fashionable","attachment":null,"posted":1714587485},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309351,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309323
>>4309350
What's your opinion on the Nikon F1? Surely a /fa/ expatriate has a lot to day on the subject.","attachment":null,"posted":1714587942},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309302
>How can you care about photography when you are not a hipster who wears pentax k1000s as jewelery and nerds out over hasselblads?
Bronicas are quintessential to the aesthetic of Real Photography. It is a "the camera" camera, not a "my camera" camera. To have a bronica on a tripod is to say "i am a photographer" not "i like cameras". It's a more thoughtful and refined presence simply because it is unrefined like a speckled metal tool - the lack of mechanical refinement belies a higher degree of refinement than someone obsessed with broaches and baubles. The humble brush, the simple charcoals, sitting among luxurious fountain pens and soulless bics, an item for art first rather than idle doodles and superficiality.

The bronica user of today, and the bronica user is always of today, doesn't even wear a watch! They check their phone for the time.

>>4309351
A collectors item that belongs on a shelf along with all other 35mm (=consumer note taker that might as well be replaced by a digital camera).","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714588303107946.jpg","filename":"DSC_3435.jpg"},"posted":1714588303},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309354,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309353
>yellow ring on lens

Way over the top and gaudy for any truly fashionable photographer to ever consider.","attachment":null,"posted":1714588422},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309361,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4309256
About the colour blobs. Are you scanning in darkness? Reflections will seriously impact your colours.
You dont have to scan in perfect darkness, just dont keep the ceiling light on and shut your curtains.","attachment":null,"posted":1714591124},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309373,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I think I'm going to all in on dslr scanning this epson just ain't cutting it anymore","attachment":null,"posted":1714594322},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309375,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309373
Do it anon, I’ve only done a few test frames but just from a shitty setup without proper holders or a good light, it still already blows my Canoscan 9000 out of the water.","attachment":null,"posted":1714594557},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’ve been using an optifilm 8100 for a few years, don’t tell me that one is shit too","attachment":null,"posted":1714594723},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309381,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309350
Again, you have no idea what fashion is.","attachment":null,"posted":1714595759},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309353
see
>>4309126","attachment":null,"posted":1714596105},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309392,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309375
you using a proper macro lens? thinking about using just a regular 50mm 1.8 I have for now","attachment":null,"posted":1714597423},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309397,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4309392
You can get attachments to flip a 50mm lens and you'll get a fine macro lens for like 10 bux","attachment":null,"posted":1714598835},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309220
It's a lie you fucking dipshit","attachment":null,"posted":1714598963},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309402,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309353
Welp, marketing slogans aside, Bronica on a tripod says nothing and suggest nothing. It simply does not look as old or goofy as chrome-accented Hassy or tlr. >>4309323
Horseshit.
Of course, gear affects how one works (see Meyerowitz), but it does not make photos magically better - there I can agree. A photo taken with utmost care, well metered and well printed can still not succeed. At the same time a snapshot can be much more intresting (in photographic terms), despite technical failures.
This is one reason why we have tons of Adams-wanabees that go to great lenghts and still wind out with boredom manifest on piece of film. It works the other way too - a legion of streetshitters trying to copy Winograd or whoever else you don't like, not realising that simply machinegunning everything in their way is not a way anybody from that generation of photogs worked and Wino's shooing style got exegerated massivly by "posthumos" works made at and caused bycertain (not happy or healthy) time in his life (not to mention that he himself bought 8x10 shortly before death).

I have also never met an draughstman or artist that would not carry a sketchbook or at least scribble on scrap paper.

tl;dr Bronicas ETR-s are cute. CUTE cameras with good lenses and full range of accesories to suit most situations. They are also quite affordable.
I like mine despite disliking 645 format.","attachment":null,"posted":1714599733},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309406,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309392
I started with extension tubes for my 50mm, and then came across a laowa 100mm 2:1 on sale which so far has been great. The 50mm would be fine but you probably won’t get good magnification without using tubes or reversing it","attachment":null,"posted":1714600797},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309408,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Dead bird in a cage wetplate colloidion. I'm going to make a series as it decays into bones.

(I found the bird and put it in there.)

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This process is so much fun.

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It's really hard to tell whats going on. Spotlight the bird. Dodge and burn. Something.","attachment":null,"posted":1714608981},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309430
Phone pictures do them absolutely no justice, and my piece of shit computer is broken, so I can't scan/properly photograph them. All those white specks are actually glittery looking silver, and not just junk on the image.

These are captured in camera, so there's no dodging or burning. You can only use light modifiers, which I don't have. In person you can definitely tell what's going on. These wetplates have a finer definition/resolution to them than what you get from printing paper.

I'm getting a big clamshell reflector soon. It will be very useful for wetplate because the emulsion is mostly sensitive to UV.","attachment":null,"posted":1714609632},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309353
The later gen ETRSi and SQi could look very sexy imo","attachment":null,"posted":1714623477},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309504,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309128
I got a Pentax 645n after having other medium formats as I wanted “quick 35mm type autofocus”. Paid $515. Less than a month ago.

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>>4309412
>>4309408
While I admire your wet plate ambition I do agree with >>4309430 the pics are dark and hard to tell what’s going on. I also think it’s a cringe tier subject matter.


>pentax 645n shot on ortho 50

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Did the lens come with it?","attachment":null,"posted":1714648089},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309508
Yes. 2 film holders also. I’m not in love with 645 as a format, however for taking quick snapshits the system is great and I really like it. If you were inclined to you could use it for serious shots if you liked the format.","attachment":null,"posted":1714649061},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309515
Forgot pic

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My lab did the scans and they're always high quality
I don't know what happened for those blobs to appear, but I'll check the negatives to see if they're there
I believe they are
I respooled the film in the dark because I forgot to take the metal plate from the back lol
But in this process of respooling the film I think I touched the emulsion because my finger came out oily
I've never had a problem like that with emulsions but it's very probably the cause","attachment":null,"posted":1714655418},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Best affordable 645 lenses are the 55mm 2.8 and the 135 2.8. But the cheapest I bought is that 80-160 f4.5 zoom for $140, that lens is still available new for $2,000. Heavy though.","attachment":null,"posted":1714655839},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have a Pentax P30. Any 40mm lens that will properly fit on it?","attachment":null,"posted":1714658712},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309532,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309088
Kiev-60 or Kiev-88. It's still a lottery to get one without severe issues but it costs 150$ for Kiev-88+prism+extra film backs+case+Volna-3 80 or less than 100$ for Kiev-60 with lens and prism, both in good working conditions.","attachment":null,"posted":1714659053},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309505
I'm going to see if I can make my next batch lighter today. I don't think I will like it as much, but it's worth a shot. Wetplate has a very low DR compared to modern film, so it may just look awful if I push the image a stop or 2.

Cringe = feelings, so I have succeeded in producing art and the series isn't even done yet. Ha! Ha! I know it's pretty cliche...","attachment":null,"posted":1714662599},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309528
You're gonna have the camera on a tripod in a studio anyway though right? Right anon?","attachment":null,"posted":1714663273},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309549,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The N70 is the only SLR body I have, should i go for the n80 upgrade or is there a better Nikon slr out there

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SHARP","attachment":null,"posted":1714670266},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309557,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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wtf this isn't rpt whoops sorry mods can delete","attachment":null,"posted":1714671034},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309559,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309557
What film stock did you use? Large format? This looks like a really skillfully processed ektar negative from a 6x9 camera at least","attachment":null,"posted":1714671116},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309537
Show us your studio shots","attachment":null,"posted":1714671635},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309568,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309553","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714672371845579.jpg","filename":"df0.jpg"},"posted":1714672371},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309570,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309568
Soft image
Poor composition
Unrealistic colors
Obnoxious watermark
Clearly edited in speech bubble

2/10","attachment":null,"posted":1714672817},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309571,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309549
If you're going to upgrade at least go to F100.","attachment":null,"posted":1714672891},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309574,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309571
what can it do that the lesser ones cant","attachment":null,"posted":1714673632},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309571
My gearfag brain tells me that a professional/prosumer nikon F autofocus SLR is the ideal film camera, but my normal person brain tells me that it's time to say "enough", stop switching gear around, and just treat the film camera like a hobby/fashion toy instead of a serious device that can be taken traveling until I can free up a room for developing LF, then it's ideal to leave the 35mm at home and shoot digital for fun and sheets for passion.

The normal person brain is probably right.","attachment":null,"posted":1714674310},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309579,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309574
The viewfinder doesn't suck, for one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714674534},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309578
So you’re going to abandon it for digital at one end and LF at the other? Good luck bro. Someday when I have an extra $1500 around I’ll try my hand at LF","attachment":null,"posted":1714674847},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309583,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309581
The burkepill.

Digital cameras also make handy light meters for large format","attachment":null,"posted":1714675311},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309578
Sort of pretty based, but you'll be missing out on printing all your inferior format film shots in the darkroom.","attachment":null,"posted":1714675867},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309578
Better overall build quality alone to hold up until you actually make that leap. The F100 is enough you don't need anything more but in reality you don't need anything more than a Nikon F and yet here we are talking about the F80/N80 vs. F100.","attachment":null,"posted":1714679116},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309603,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"1 16x20 sheet of glass costs 10 dollars and makes 16 4x5 plates if you can perfectly cut the glass.

This is the absolute cheapest way to shoot large format at less than 1 dollar per plate all materials included.","attachment":null,"posted":1714680953},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309603
I’ve never done plate glass before, how do you keep the chemicals on the glass?","attachment":null,"posted":1714683614},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309616
eggs.
I am not shitting on you","attachment":null,"posted":1714683946},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309624,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309616
You add a small amount of amino silane to your colloidion. It helps it stick to the glass.","attachment":null,"posted":1714684572},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309635,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309530
yea there's the pancake 40mm","attachment":null,"posted":1714693099},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309667,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Well lads RIP to my eos 5, just fried the poor bastard. Was poking around to find a good place to pull alternate power line, to bypass the turbofaggot 2cr5 battery, and accidentally shorted the big flash caps. After a nice big firework, the thing is now basically dead. Comes on for a second with voltage but the goes into dead battery mode. Behavior makes me think other caps may have been blasted along the chain but honestly cba to trace it down. Goodnight sweet prince. It was only 25 bucks on eBay may just get a replacement desu, I liked this little thing and ef film shooting is wildly underrated (it just werks!). And whoever invented 2cr5 can roast in hell tbqhwy.

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kek, lmao at your life. I just picked up another two batteries for mine, the last one was in there for over 12 months before finally going dead. It is a 10/10 camera though, try being less retarded next time.","attachment":null,"posted":1714705253},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">60 USD for a roll of Portra 800 and 2 rolls of Kentmere 400
fuck this, I'm bulk loading","attachment":null,"posted":1714705354},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309674,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309673
Based.","attachment":null,"posted":1714705511},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309672
Yeah I’m retarded anon but being able to afford 2cr5s was not the problem, they’re just such a nonstandard retard format these days that I hate it. If I have to fry another camera to figure it out so be it. I ain’t no engineer after all. I just have to resist the urge to use this for as an excuse for gearfaggot upgrading to a higher model. I don’t NEED a 1v but……","attachment":null,"posted":1714706152},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309677
DO IT. We can be 1v bros. :D","attachment":null,"posted":1714706451},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309689,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309677
>Right, but I have a 1v.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paJqHPHLExo","attachment":null,"posted":1714711441},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309677
Download the 143 page manual for the 1v and skim through all the features. Surely you will see how most, if not all the features, will drastically improve your photography.

>>4309689
Based utilitarian vs the based camera enjoyer

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the eos 5 has DEP as well tho...","attachment":null,"posted":1714715652},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309691
Shit. You MUST need 11fps. Surely.","attachment":null,"posted":1714718349},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309697,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309014
>Medium format is like shooting digital but worse, muh pixel level quality, there's nothing special about it at all but potentially an extra stop of toneh
Is this bait? Medium format...
>is sharper
>has more fine detail
>has less grain
>has better tonality and color
The last two, which are related, might be the most important advantage of 120 vs. 35mm. You shouldn't see grain structure instead of smooth tonal transitions.","attachment":null,"posted":1714719194},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just putting out a warning for anybody wanting to buy respooled double X from Reflx Lab. Three separate roles and they're all like this.
The APX100 I shot on the same day looks fine.

Just look at this mess. Luckily I was only testing a lens that day but there are scratches running down the lengths of whole film. There's also what looks like a light leak but it's consistently there on every shot.

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Normies love photos that look like this tho","attachment":null,"posted":1714722761},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309706,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309697
Isn't sharpness a lens thing? And saying fine detail and less grain sort of redundant?","attachment":null,"posted":1714723141},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309710,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"lab fucked up my negs rip, not that my photos were very good or anything but still annoying regardless. need to start deving myself again i guess.

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pretty demotivated from this roll too

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>>14508214
https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/brice-rhodes-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-2016-triple-murder-conviction/article_e08c90c8-e149-11ee-ba90-3f2bb0cd6309.html

Racist KKK white pig retard who discriminates against Asians should kill himself.","attachment":null,"posted":1714727087},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309716,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309703
hey man i don't go too crazy cleaning the dust off my negatives because i like 'the look' but i do need to know i can trust a film stock.

Back to trix for me i guess.","attachment":null,"posted":1714727240},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309697
you forgot the most important part
>big mirror go *CLACK*","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714728407353812.png","filename":"grug-smiling.png"},"posted":1714728407},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309738,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What 120 film has the absolute most grain possible? Preferably black and white.","attachment":null,"posted":1714737412},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309738
Delta 3200 or maybe GP3","attachment":null,"posted":1714740035},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309752,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309738
>>4309746
Delta 3200 pushed to 6400 kek","attachment":null,"posted":1714741863},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309753,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309690
Brother, I don’t need half the features the eos5 has, never mind more on the 1v lol. I just want one. It upset at myself though, I was gonna try out a roll of pan f this weekend since I never used it before, but now my only 35mm is dead. Facebook marketplace locally has nothing for replacement. Sad.","attachment":null,"posted":1714742012},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">camera is acting up again
first few frame are spaced a good centimeter or so, getting shorter for each frame","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714744614990165.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240503_154815.png"},"posted":1714744614},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309760
here is one of the scans

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The rewind spool on my camera rarely moves unless i tension it first and this is my constant fear","attachment":null,"posted":1714750738},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309852,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How retarded of an idea is it to get into super 8 in the year of our lord 2024? I think it’s neat and cameras can be had relatively cheap but the processing into useful digital video seems like a massive pain in the ass","attachment":null,"posted":1714771095},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309852
I think you found your answer by the end of your own comment.

It's a pain in the ass to get results you won't even be happy with because you've romanticized the idea from things you've seen online that took multiple people and multiple hours to edit.","attachment":null,"posted":1714771774},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309862,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309694
>>4309690
>>4309678
Well someone out in the universe must’ve been listening, I dropped by my camera shop to pickup a roll of ol reliable kentmere and they had an eos 1 with nifty 50stm and extra battery grip on consignment. Probably an overpay slightly cause brick and mortar but my gearfaggotry overcame me. Plus it’s cool it’s as old as I am lol. Gonna see about running the roll thru it this weekend. It’s a weird upgrade but also downgrade from the poor 5 I murdered.","attachment":null,"posted":1714773927},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309868,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It has been done. My first wet plate taken on glass. The colloidion was a little harder to coat, but I made it work. This thing looks so cool in person. With the right background the image pops out at you.

>>4309862
Holy based. Have fun with it! Enjoy your 45 AF points! Now you definitely need to read the manual!

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>Enjoy your 45 AF points!
no no anon, eos 1. without letters. I get one central AF point and i'm going to like it. and if i don't like it fuck me. lol. looks like i actually only ended up paying in line with ebay prices for it so that's nice, about 100 canuckbucks. once i sell the extra 50mm it came with. I know these threads generally aren't fans of the more electronic automatic film stuff, but i love the sound of that film wind. its nostalgic.","attachment":null,"posted":1714777066},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309884,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Got the first role from my Pentax 67 drying as we speak. Super excited about the big negative, probably will get into large eventually.

>Tfw 20 rolls of 120 cost $213","attachment":null,"posted":1714781717},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309886,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Feels so good bros.

>>4309869
Oh... You will be inspired by your self imposed limitations! The 1v has an amazing shutter/wind sound. With the power grip it just sounds extremely snappy and precise.

>>4309884
I finally received my 100m roll of 70mm agfa aviphot lol. Spent like 170 on it. Should give me the equivalent of 100ish rolls of 120. I have a 70mm back for my rz67 that I'll be using even though I do not like using that camera without a tripod.

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First quick pic just to check function","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714783887801131.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240503_204952.jpg"},"posted":1714783887},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309888,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309887
I missed focus on my dogs face thanks to him being an asshole","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714783949243224.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240503_204952 (1).jpg"},"posted":1714783949},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"got my first ever roll back. I like the photos, but not so satisfied with the scan quality after paying for enhanced scans.

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Where did you go?","attachment":null,"posted":1714785238},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309894,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309892
for the development and scans? Local joint

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Nice dog, bro. It's a hard earned skill to take in focus dog pics. I dream of capturing a non blurry wetplate shot of mine one day...","attachment":null,"posted":1714785792},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309900,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309891
did you run your scans through Lightroom and make adjustments? straight from the lab isn't always the best considering they make post-process adjustments themselves","attachment":null,"posted":1714786781},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309903,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309900
What enhancements should I make?","attachment":null,"posted":1714787258},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309900
for the one youre quoting, yes I did. I like the quality of the development, just dont like how low-res the scans are.

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Well... You can see the images. Who cares how they look when you'll get to see the actual quality once you print them in a darkroom.","attachment":null,"posted":1714788553},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309910,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309903
just click >Auto lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714788629},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309918,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309910
What software has the best automatic function?","attachment":null,"posted":1714790026},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309919,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309891
>>4309907
the lab scanners are like 15-20 years old now. "enhanced" is basically the highest end digital sensor... by 2005 standards so yeah they're going to be low res and look like shit. doesn't really matter though as you still have your negatives so you can always rescan them later with a DSLR or whatever. personally I think noritsu looks like ass and you should always scan yourself. even if your digi camera is a old heap of shit like my 5D with only 9.5 stops of dynamic range you can still stack multiple exposures to recover literally everything.","attachment":null,"posted":1714790160},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Guys I think I've got it. My first photography project will be about taco stands. Small ones, big ones, roofed ones, open ones, all sorts! Do you think that's be cool?","attachment":null,"posted":1714790852},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309923
Depends. Will your images be of the corner of the taco stands?","attachment":null,"posted":1714791025},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309923
Sure. That sounds like a fun scavenger hunt too.","attachment":null,"posted":1714791030},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309918
Windows XP photo editor","attachment":null,"posted":1714791092},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309933,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309923
shoot them at night on Cinestill 800T","attachment":null,"posted":1714791253},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309934,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309927
Yes and I will shoot them on pushed Portra 400 for the tonez
Jk I want to shoot most of them straight on, thinking about using 6x7 but might use 35mm for shots where I can't setup a tripod
We'll see

>>4309928
Excellent","attachment":null,"posted":1714791264},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309938,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309923
sounds pretty fun, you can also review the tacos at each stand and then make your own taco stand photobook guide","attachment":null,"posted":1714792400},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309940,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309923
Cool or not, it’s nice to have an actual project and goal to work through. I was recently in California and thought it would be neat to try and catalogue as much of the rapidly dwindling googie buildings and street signs as possible.","attachment":null,"posted":1714792480},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309941,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309931
Something that old?","attachment":null,"posted":1714792558},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309946,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309941
sí","attachment":null,"posted":1714793664},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309949,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309923
godspeed man.

t. taco man

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>Isn't sharpness a lens thing?
It's both.

>And saying fine detail and less grain sort of redundant?
No, they're related but somewhat independent within a small range.","attachment":null,"posted":1714794279},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309934
Might be fun to order a plate of 3 tacos and photograph that as well. Then you have a great excuse to eat lots of tacos.","attachment":null,"posted":1714794321},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309957,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309938
>>4309952
Fugg, when making photobooks how much variation between the photos is allowed? Now I'm thinking I have the taco stands themselves, then I bring a P&S to do closeups of the food with flash, so it looks vibey.
Might be too much difference in the images between an MF shot and a shitty P&S shot","attachment":null,"posted":1714795430},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309958,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309957
Left page is taco stand, right page is tacos. If your book isn't too big 35mm and 67 may not be thaaaat different. You could also play on the difference and figure out two complimentary films for the different subjects.","attachment":null,"posted":1714795693},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309959,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309957
I say shoot it all on Gold 200 in 35mm","attachment":null,"posted":1714795767},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309962,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309959
blud tryna sabotage my project

>>4309958
I.this dude's suggestion >>4309933 for night shots, then I'm thinking shooting the food in B&W. Stupid idea?","attachment":null,"posted":1714795829},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309962
It would surely be artistic. Food can be quite tricky to shoot in b&w.","attachment":null,"posted":1714795974},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309965,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309963
This gentleman over here is conspiring against my project*","attachment":null,"posted":1714796028},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4309988,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309891
>>4309907
Hello fellow Columbus bro, do you remember Chicks camera? The one armed guy who used to develop photos there?","attachment":null,"posted":1714803009},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310010,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What's the best Nikon f camera for working in studios e.g multiple flashes, working with wireless triggers etc","attachment":null,"posted":1714814775},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So today I tried the massively over expose everything instagram effect. Shot the whole roll +2 stops just using the built in light meter. A lot of shit images but some of them worked. Definitely a neat look if you can find a scene with the right contrast ratio. But I would avoid doing this shit without spot metering to get middle gray in the right place or you're just throwing money away.

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i like the penis carved into the bench","attachment":null,"posted":1714828957},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310041,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310037
same, i didn't place the glove there either. so I think it tells a harrowing narrative of small pee pee man who just wants to be loved","attachment":null,"posted":1714829656},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310052,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310029
>zoomers discover the idea of high key and rename it, like everything else they "discover"
zoomers were a mistake","attachment":null,"posted":1714830726},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310052
Isn't high key lighting where you intentionally light a scene for a dreamy/scifi look though? I'm doing it specially to fuck up the colors.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714832500051024.jpg","filename":"R3-4-5-24-145-positives-2.jpg"},"posted":1714832500},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310071,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"lately there have been many new or "new" (read: rebranded) films on market. does anyone know what this film is? it is sold on few european stores but i couldn't find any information or example fotos of it.

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99% chance its some kind of kodak respool, but i don't know for certain. who else is making 400 colour stock in bulk these days after all?","attachment":null,"posted":1714833214},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310088,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310072
probably some kodak. there seems to be also 27 exposure disposable camera from that brand which looks the same as kodak's disposable cameras.","attachment":null,"posted":1714838882},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310072
Fuji","attachment":null,"posted":1714839930},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310128,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"BOYS TODAY IS THE DAY","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714846225359899.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240504_105605719.jpg"},"posted":1714846225},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310129,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310128
Nice. Wish you the best on your film photography","attachment":null,"posted":1714846333},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310136,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310129
Thanks, I feel giddy for doing color at home for the first time","attachment":null,"posted":1714846904},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310139,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310136
The nice thing about c41 at least is you don’t have to deal with variable timings and recipes depending on the phase of the moon and whether you farted while loading the camera and all the other silly variables black and white film dev can have. C41 is c41 is c41, simple as.","attachment":null,"posted":1714847330},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310141,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310091
Nope. Fuji 400 is just Kodak rebranded starting this year once Fuji’s oft-rumored deep frozen stock runs out.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714847474888500.png","filename":"IMG_2002.png"},"posted":1714847474},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310145,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4310128
Glhf, may your negs be dense.
I might dev a couple rolls tomorrow depending on how lazy i am","attachment":null,"posted":1714847929},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310141
nope. it's not rebranded Kodak it's its own emulsion. check the charts nigga","attachment":null,"posted":1714850398},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310154
The Fuji 200 (incidentally the one in >>4310128) is literally Gold 200 to the point they just copy pasted the curves in spec sheet. I'd be very very surprised if it wasn't the same with the 400 (and 100) versions.

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Fujislugs will cope even when the truth literally bites them on the dick, it is what it is","attachment":null,"posted":1714855053},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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why would you do that to the shadows","attachment":null,"posted":1714856353},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310183,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310182
because I like it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714856564},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310186,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This 12 year expired 70mm agfa aviphot from India doesn't look half bad from this batch of test shots... I wonder how the contact prints will come out...

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It may sound like it, but to me b&w is much easier, yeah there are more variables but it's also relatively much much more tolerant to being off in your temps and times.
Also I fucking hate temperature control of non-one shot developers. In 20 years of doing b&w I only mixed one powder developer (ID-11, last year), and it sucked cooling it to 20°C each time (it was a hot summer). But it didn't suck anywhere near to how much it sucked to heat CD and Blix to 39° just now, I must have used an olympic pool's worth of hottest water I had on tap to get there. And even with vigorous mixing by hand there was a 5° difference between one end of the bathtub and the other.
I definitely need to get a sous vide dildo before I do it next time. Or maybe I'll just microwave...
One-shot developers win each time, and I can easily get stable 20°C straight out of tap. 99.9% of my stuff is HC-110 and Rodinal. Also lately I've been coming to a conclusion that 1 hour stand dev in 1+100 Rodinal is the true standard b&w process. Yeah, all the "wet" steps of C41 take 15 minutes altogether (1-hour photo used to be a thing after all), but it's like running a relay race all by yourself. I'd rather just chill with a book or do some chores for an hour, and not worry about things imploding because developer got 0.15 degrees hotter or colder than the "standard".
>>4310145
Cheers, you too! Have you been doing C41 at home for long? Got any advice to make it easier?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714858114940705.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240504_120932838.jpg"},"posted":1714858114},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyway the deed is done, it looks... all right so far? Hard to tell, but at least it didn't go catastrophically bad.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714858245246241.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240504_134229999.jpg"},"posted":1714858245},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310206,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310202
Here's a quick and dirty (and pointless) inversion from a phone snapshit of the still wet film. It looks bad, but hey, there is color!
I'll post real scans later. I shot two rolls of Fuji 200 on this one hike, I had one processed by a lab already so I can see side by side how they compare.

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>>4310201
*they* dont want you to know this but you dont need to keep your chems at exactly 39c the whole time it just needs to be in the ballpark of body temperature. I developed mine in 37c and dropping as the sink water kept getting cooler, i bet i was down to 30-28 by the time the blix was done and picrel has turned out fine

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Stand development is the cheat code if you can live with the decrease in contrast. I ran a roll for over an hour with ilfosol “one shot” from a simplicity kit, which had already processed a few rolls, and it turned out largely fine, just a bit flat lol. Ilford rates the simplicity kit ilfosol as strictly for two rolls and then spent. I also have used dilute ddx for stand and it was fine. You’re right that there’s a ton of latitude with bw. It’s only finkicy if you want technical perfection, but even sloppily done it’s largely “good enough”","attachment":null,"posted":1714862304},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310201
You can also get a smaller container, man, instead of using a giant bathtub.","attachment":null,"posted":1714862311},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310229,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310223
Now I suppose you'll be able to get your photos at 8k resolution compared to spending a ton of money to get them transfered","attachment":null,"posted":1714862409},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310229
Post a film photo, zach.","attachment":null,"posted":1714862635},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310233,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4310229
what do you mean?","attachment":null,"posted":1714862904},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310236,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310231
Too expensive and time consuming to get a chemistry effect in a mechanical light proof box with a specially manufactured silicon glass in the front. I prefer using my T2i.","attachment":null,"posted":1714862966},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310237,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310233
Getting your film photos produced by a vendor costs more than getting it done yourself. You don't know if you're getting scammed indirectly. Does walgreens still transfer film?","attachment":null,"posted":1714863062},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310237
I thought you didn't shoot film.","attachment":null,"posted":1714863240},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310240,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4310237
idk about walgreens i'm not familiar with them, and idk what you mean with scammed indirectly","attachment":null,"posted":1714863248},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310237
Late stage terminal brain damage.","attachment":null,"posted":1714863343},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310243,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310240
Well you get scammed by a website that says send our film to us and we will develop it for a price. You put your film cannisters in a package send it to them excited that it'll get developed but low and behold the website scammed you of money to get it developed which never happens losing all your photos you've taken.","attachment":null,"posted":1714863404},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310244,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310243
The address will be on the mailed items. If it's a false address you'll get a return through a return address. If it's a real address then go get your shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1714863573},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310245,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4310243
i've never had this happen to me","attachment":null,"posted":1714863660},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310246,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I just got a flash module for my SRT-201, boy is it gonna be fun wasting 2 rolls of film figuring out how to take pictures with flash.
anyways it won't fit in my camera bag because I have two huge lenses which seem similar, which one should I get rid of between
>Quantaray 85-210mm f3.8 Macro
>VIvitar 80-200mm f4.5

I don't know much about lenses yet but I don't need two huge ones.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714863738878979.jpg","filename":"s-l1600.jpg"},"posted":1714863738},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"gonna dev HP5 Plus pushed to 1600 tonight bros","attachment":null,"posted":1714865889},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310274,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310246
Make sure your shutter speed is 1/60 or slower and that the tiny window on the front of the flash is clear of dust, or your fingers.","attachment":null,"posted":1714866179},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310277,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4310245
That's good. I've gotten scammed from a lens conversion deal three times.","attachment":null,"posted":1714866847},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310223
>>4310201
>clean and clear workspace
>chems laid out in order
>measuring jugs with spouts to pour into and out of quickly and without spilling
>waterproof stopwatch
>microwave chems to get them up to temp, water bath to keep somewhat stable
Worth remembering too that the first step (the dev) is the only time/temp sensitive one, the other steps, bleach and fix, work "to completion", and the high temp of c-41 is really only to enable all of these processes to happen quickly.
I did my own c-41 for years before I found a reasonably priced dev-only lab, can't recall ever fucking it up, and I re-used the chems well past their claimed capacities.
>I used the kitchen sink though, not a bathtub like a retard

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>>4295517
and predictably most of the look like this or worse; mirror slap/shutter shock's a bitch.
Ones that worked out were 1/250 or faster, everything in that 1/60-1.5sec range (where most of the really exciting leaves & rocks live) shows a heap of blur.
I was using girthy tripod and self timer. The 30V has a mirror lockup function which works fine for macro where the camera is mounted to the tripod, but I really think the answer is a shot-bag or something to damp the camera.
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Hallelujah, it's beautiful! Fresh scan, no tone or color edits at all, only sharpened a notch. I think I'm in business.
Now to figure out if the cost of chems and the effort of doing it at home outweighs the cost of sending it to the lab.
Thank you for bearing with me today and all the advice.
>>4310223
This looks good. 25% temperature drop without compensation feels like a lot though, at least for developer. But yeah I would be much less worried about blix being a few degrees off. I am just a little paranoid after developing R100 which seems to be super sensitive to temperature.
>>4310227
I don't mind using this cheat code, and in most cases I don't mind flatter look, makes it easier to edit later. I haven't tried stand with any other dev than Rodinal, didn't even think there were any others suitable for it.
Also I haven't used DD-X in years, but I remember it fondly. But it ends up being too expensive if you develop a lot.
>>4310228
For sure lol, that's just what I had available. And I thought, too, that bigger volume of water would keep it more stable and heat the bottles up faster, but it didn't seem to be worth it without some active temperature control and circulation.
I have a suitable tub in mind, so hopefully next week will I get the sous vide thing.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714868525783615.jpg","filename":"2024_0011_015.jpg"},"posted":1714868525},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310287,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309988
I don't, i've only been in the hobby since last summer.
This was my first ever film, fell in love with an om-2n I saw at World of Photography.","attachment":null,"posted":1714868603},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310302,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310286
>so hopefully next week will I get the sous vide thing.
srsly don't bother
Maybe it's a solution if you want to get better results with e6, but for c41 it's not needed.
And for E6, nothing you do will work better than, let alone as well as a good lab, and it will only be economically viable if you save your rolls and use a whole kit at a time, because the chems go bad immediately.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714869525386178.jpg","filename":"DSC08186 - DSC08188.jpg"},"posted":1714869525},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310307,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310285
100mm f/2 I bought at the same time though, no such issues.
A bit glowier than I expected wide open, but still pretty glorious, and a really nice size to carry around.

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>film is expensive
>processing is expensive
>diy even is expensive
>kodak might just kill it off eventually anyway
Chromesisters, where did it all go so wrong?","attachment":null,"posted":1714872783},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310364
Do wetplate colloidion. It's really cheap, and requires minimal equipment aside from a LF camera. Even if you wanted to do 8x10 It's only about 4 dollars per shot.","attachment":null,"posted":1714872968},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310368,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I walked around a stinky river today.
May have some photos to post later if I don't drink from the rodinal bottle","attachment":null,"posted":1714873048},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310368
How does it taste? Have you compared aged rodinal with fresh?","attachment":null,"posted":1714873124},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310302
Hello, Christchurch anon.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714874019329834.jpg","filename":"ss+(2024-05-05+at+01.51.23).jpg"},"posted":1714874019},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310282
dang, what stock you used?","attachment":null,"posted":1714874257},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310381,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309406
Okay okay. Does focal length matter for this? I'm using Z mount so I only really have a 50 and a 105","attachment":null,"posted":1714874410},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310385,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Well... I have 3 contact sheets to dump. Starting with the agfa aviphot. This is an aerial film. It appears to be in good working order, and these look really nice for tiny little prints. I shot the test images at the rated 200, then 100, and 50 iso. I think 100 iso may be best for my uses. Very exciting news because this is literally some of the absolute cheapest MF film in existence.

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Sorry I cannot share higher quality images than these.

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Not from there, just visited, but good spotting!
>>4310364
>expensive
It was ever thus, it all went wrong when digi became cheap.
>>4310379
Gold 200, it's right there in the filename
>>4310381
Both of the native Z macros are excellent optically, but for scanning the 105mm is easier because
>more working distance
>easier to align film parallel to sensor
>less vignette
>less visible sensor dust
>less visible backlight/diffusion panel dust
>easier to evenly illuminate the background with a narrower FOV
>less diffraction softening at small apertures
Which is all to say that a great result can be had with either, but will be easier to achieve with the 105mm","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714875576131143.jpg","filename":"DSC08192 - DSC08194.jpg"},"posted":1714875576},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310396
>Gold 200, it's right there in the filename
I'm so sorry I'm a brainrotten zoomer it's over for me","attachment":null,"posted":1714878120},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310387
>>4310388
chickens are such nice creatures
took some pics of mine recently but either lost the perforation or something else so about 15 frames are all mangled together

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did you spend your trip shooting penis grafitti?

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based
i like the picture as well","attachment":null,"posted":1714892473},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i ended up kinda really liking this one
not sure why

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Developed in f76+ for 7 minutes. So far this film does not disappoint","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714904306015113.png","filename":"48EC00F8-FCF6-4B46-91C2-66828080DDA2.png"},"posted":1714904306},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310455
Nah, I saw the seals at Kaikoura too.

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Pic related

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Is something like a Konica C35Ef3 sensible progression?","attachment":null,"posted":1714916923},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310518,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4310517
Nah just get an old Praktica M42 mount SLR. Full manual with a light meter.
Cheap, effective, good.","attachment":null,"posted":1714917465},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310525,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310387
>>4310388
Omg such qties, nice work Anon","attachment":null,"posted":1714918614},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310680,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310509
I haven't heard about doing this before, but I understand the principle. A window will filter out most UV so you would have better and quicker results with a UV bulb. UV, even longwave, is bad for you though so do it in a closet in a room you don't use. Looks like a day or two is enough. If you have all the time in the world then you may as well try the window method, just make sure it doesn't get too hot.","attachment":null,"posted":1714941083},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310680
Last year I tried leaving it outside in sunlight for some time, but in less than an hour shit started getting uncomfortably hot, so I didn't continue it after that. Then I tried taping a 12V, 1W led bulb into the front element and leaving it for a couple of weeks but it didn't do anything. Maybe I'll see if I could still find the ikea led lamp that's recommended for de-yellowing lenses on other photo forums.","attachment":null,"posted":1714944672},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Experimenting with stitching shift photos together.

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What am I looking at?","attachment":null,"posted":1714953061},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310732,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The Pentax 67 is quickly becoming my favorite camera. The negatives from it are just amazing, it’s quick to focus and set shutter. It’s just a great camera. I was able to hand hold some random snapshits inside at 1/30 and not have noticeable shake. Really glad I got it. Although this definitely means the SWC is getting sold as I see no need for it when I can get a wide angle for this camera for dirt cheap, plus I’d use it way more as I like the 67 worlds better.

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I gotta say I like it more than I like TRI-X at this point.

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>more than tri-x

Lofty statement my friend, why do you say that?","attachment":null,"posted":1714955822},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310747,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310746
>>INB4 TONE FAGGOT
Let me re-phrase my point. I think that for a walking around film, at evening devloped in rodinal it looks really good. I'll post my TRI-X in a bit, for your inputs.

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Tri-X for ref.
I sold my XPRO-3 for a Bessa R2m, and I really like it. It's made me shoot more.

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I also know that this is a meaningless photo.
I just like shutter go burr.

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I do like the look of it. Closest I have personally come to liking as much as Tri-x is ortho 80","attachment":null,"posted":1714956494},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310753,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310751
TriX can be super contrasty, a pointless snapshit

>dev in rodinal

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no shit.
I know that most of my photos are shit.

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Join the club, all of mine are shit.

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I am trying to be unobtrusive, but people keep on noticing it.

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is the mirror slap too much? can you get a 21mm for the pentax? i love 21mm and was hoping to get a swc in the future (i dont have much of a need for it right now)","attachment":null,"posted":1714960089},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310772,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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>>4310773
>>4310770
>trust me bro, a rangefinder is just as accurate!","attachment":null,"posted":1714962354},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310784,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310779
I know for a fact that my Bessa R2M isn't as accurate as a SLR. Thats due to EBF, which I plan on resolve by >>coping with a m5.
I don't plan on making prints, and these are good enough for my purposes.

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Been thinking about swapping my RB67 for one of these, just a lateral move?","attachment":null,"posted":1714964187},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310785
One's a technical camera with bellows focus, leaf shutters, back and finder accessories, and one's a handheld SLR.
Not really interchangeable.
>>4310779
Rangefinders are way more accurate for focusing wideangles, but for fast 50's it's a different story.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714965906233321.jpg","filename":"A7R04357RB67HP5 - A7R04359RB67HP5.jpg"},"posted":1714965906},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310791
The bokeh is so cool, what lens did you use?
>>4310714
WOAH

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>>4310785
The rb67 is kinda a useless camera IMO. It’s not as good of quality as a hasselblad or Pentax, other than bellows and 6x7 it doesn’t have any real draws.","attachment":null,"posted":1715003642},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310859,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310853
Agreed. I would even take a Bronica SQ-Ai over an RB.","attachment":null,"posted":1715005588},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310875,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What's your deepest regret in film?

For me, it's shooting 35mm. So much 35mm I could have bought a 500cm by now. I can show my friends and family medium format shots, 35mm shots, modern FF digital, and photos from a 10mp digital CCD SLR. They can't tell the 35mm from the 10mp but they always notice there's something magical about MF/LF.

I should have done that experiment sooner...","attachment":null,"posted":1715008289},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310881,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310771
I don't think they make a 21mm for the 6x7","attachment":null,"posted":1715009717},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310883,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310881
50mm in 6x7 is the equivalent of 25mm on 35mm film. 40mm is 20mm.","attachment":null,"posted":1715009965},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310892,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Look. The 1800mm rodenstock apo Ronar.

The projection circle is large enough for 2mx2m plates!!!

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> What's your deepest regret in film?
1. Didn’t save first negatives
2. Wasted too much time/shots shooting color on the begging of my film journey
3. Wasted film with shit cameras (p&s, soviet garbage, no metering manual ones)","attachment":null,"posted":1715013601},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4310946,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"And here it is fellas! My first contact print of a wet plate colloidion negative I took on glass. Pretty little thing. The small shack is so crispy sharp in person. The fine detail really makes it stand out.

The nikkor T ED 720mm lens is really quite nice, but a major pain to work with. I had to use 2 tripods to support my camera in the wind for my 5 second exposure.

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new bread
>>4310960
>>4310960
>>4310960
>>4310960","attachment":null,"posted":1715024062},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4311268,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310853
idk, bellows focus, mirror lockup, leaf shutter and rotating back were both pretty useful for that photo
>>4310851
I think it was the 180mm, it's my favohrite lense for the camera of the 5 or so I have","attachment":null,"posted":1715089555},{"board":"p","thread":4309008,"pid":4311998,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310892
>1:16
Too dim","attachment":null,"posted":1715261247}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4310744,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've seen these pop up once in a while o market place, or ebay for relatively cheap.

Are they worth getting for just dicking around or more of a hassle than anything else?
I heard the lenses are shit.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714955613909007.jpg","filename":"Nikon_J1_image,_10-30mm_lens.jpg"},"posted":1714955613},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4310768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310744
If you have ancient deprecated thailand made f-mount glass lying around and get the adapter could be fun for a day","attachment":null,"posted":1714959744},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4310777,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310744
theyre aight, but i see why they died
ill poast photo whenever i get back to my pc
t. v2 user","attachment":null,"posted":1714961837},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4310792,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310744
it's a 1inch sensor but old and worse than an rx100. needs perfect lighting conditions to not look worse than a phone, really. Nikon also didn't really make a lot of good fast lenses for it so with the sensor size having everything be in focus it ends up looking like a modern phone. i had one back when it first came out. I honestly loved the little thing, but even though it looks small in photos, it's not really much smaller than a nex 3 that i also had at the time, despite the sensor. the lenses were smaller, sure, but they were also mediocre. they weirdly chose to aim this squarely at the snapshitter/canon elph user thinking there would be a big upgrade market, but they also did it right around when cell phone pictures started to dominate. in theory could have been a nice little system but nikon bungled it. that said, something about the 1v1 with the 10mm lens was a cool little walk around kit. and it had some at-the-time class leading features like 10fps electronic shutter capture rate and fastest mirorrless AF for the time. Would i recommend you get one today? not a J1 certainly, and a v1 only if you really like how it looks, but not for image quality or what have you. If you want small, go full meme and get a pentax q or something.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714965916101224.jpg","filename":"Nikon-1-J1-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-3N-size-comparison.jpg"},"posted":1714965916},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4310793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310792
sample photo taken with it in challenging light. it's not great. The gf had the j1 with the kit lens, never bought any other lenses and eventually she sold it once she upgraded to an iphone 5s and just used that for everything. I had a v1 and held onto it a bit longer, and also had the 10mm and 18.5mm. traded it for an a6000 eventually.

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they are really bad. a phone with multiple lenses destroys it these days","attachment":null,"posted":1714968696},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4310843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310793
See what you mean... when there's good light it looks pretty good. Not so much in the low light areas tho.","attachment":null,"posted":1714995009},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4311103,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310744
You're better off buying a Samsung","attachment":null,"posted":1715053699},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4312017,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310744
i have this shit collecting dust.
i hate it with every bit of my body.
Lens and sensor is actually ok-ish, but the fucking controls are abysmal. If you want to shoot anything but auto you have to go through these menus of menus of menus to get around things like holy shit. Makes photography painful. Worst nikon product i had.","attachment":null,"posted":1715267056},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4312023,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310744
All the cheapshit nikon point & shoots after the film era were just cheap cameras made by chinese companies that got nikon badged bc they seemed decent enough to perform in the cheapshit P&S market which is not worth Nikons time to actually build cameras for. The mid-level management who thought this what is a good idea didn’t understand that slapping ashton kutchers face on chinese junk Actually devalues the brand in public perception and has a greater cost than the three dollars per camera they were going to make on this shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715267496},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4312030,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310744
If the sensor size is not APS-C and at least 24mp
For personal use: it's not worth more than $50
For reselling: Scam those zoomers and crop copers as hard as you can. Jack that price up. It'll sell eventually and then others will follow your lead.

Yes, even micro four thirds. I used to use it. Unless you are zooming in on tiny birds on a shoestring budget with garbo lenses that barely outdo a cheaper and lighter sony rx10, do not waste your time with that worthless fucking shit, save your money for another month, commit to an extra half pound, and go aps-c/full frame

If you believe this small camera will help your street photography (unsolicited creepshots of women, with a blurry hobo here and there to show the cops and run if you are questioned - dont lie, we know thats what all streetyfags do), everyone sees you have a camera no matter how big it is, you are a paranoid schizophrenic, and you should actually buy a coolpix p1000.","attachment":null,"posted":1715267789},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4312034,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310793
What made you both decide to go into the system?","attachment":null,"posted":1715268115},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4312043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312034
Literally cause I thought the V1 looked cool and it had a viewfinder, which other mirrorless didn’t without weird add ons at the time. I don’t regret my decision.","attachment":null,"posted":1715269317},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4312044,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312034
>>4312043
Oh and I guess the gf got a J1 because it looked cute and I upsold her from a point and shoot saying she could use my lenses if she ever wanted to (never did)","attachment":null,"posted":1715269399},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4312147,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310793

>Winnipeg

I am truly sorry.","attachment":null,"posted":1715283792},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4312250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312030
I have a d60 and d7200.
I'm just curious for something that I can keep in my car or laying around the house or for like a birthday party, something that isn't my phone, I don't want to buy flagship phones anymore. And I thought a camera like the J1 would offer an alternative. I'm also more inclined to actually post or keep photos from a camera than my phone since I'm used to taking large amount of photos from my DLSRs and such.

>>4312023
The 1 series I think was made in Thailand, that was around the time Nikon started to really export production.","attachment":null,"posted":1715298877},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4312303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312147
at least its not saskatchewan. this thread got me lookin up V1s on ebay, man, fuck.

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Yeah I guess vomit is slightly better than shit","attachment":null,"posted":1715314226},{"board":"p","thread":4310744,"pid":4313049,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310777
>>4312017
yeah these things suck balls, better sell them to me.

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to actually answer your question OP, i love nikon 1 shit, people can complain about small sensor size whatever but the real killer is lens selection, Nikon made fuck all and there's almost zero third party shit and the stuff that is available is in focal lengths that don't match the awkward 2.7 crop ratio.

Save yourself the grief and either get an e-p1 for $50 and have the whole catalogue of m4/3 lenses available or get an e-m10 mk1 if you really need the viewfinder. Or a Panasonic but i don't know what models.

That being said, the 1 niggor 70-300 is really fucking good.

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Adobe needs somebody to pay for their skip the photoshoot marketing campaign.

Literally who thinks this stuff up?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714967640652334.png","filename":"IMG_3288.png"},"posted":1714967640},{"board":"p","thread":4310795,"pid":4310838,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310795

probably the same people that think regional costumes are good marketing","attachment":null,"posted":1714988049}]} {"title":"Film General /fgt/","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4310960,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Kodak Colorplus Edition

Previous thread>>4309008


/fgt/ daily reminder (courtesy by anon): one stop per decade is (generally) bullshit
>negative film ages better than positive
>black and white better than color
>slow films better than fast
>storage conditions (dry/cool) matter more than years
>Negative film is shot 1 or 2 stops overexposed and then PULLED in development so that you build more density in the exposure and develop less such that the fog is limited
>slide/positive film is shot at box speed or overexposed and pulled.
>if you home develop you can also use benzotriazole as a restrainer for the the first developer in E6 process


Useful links
>[massive dev chart] gives times for home film development
https://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php
>[film dev] shows results of development regimes
https://filmdev.org/
>[news & community links]
35mmc.com
casualphotophile.com
kosmofoto.com
emulsive.org
japancamerahunter.com

Thread Question
what kind of "consumer grade" filmstock do you enjoy the most?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715024022590431.jpg","filename":"maxresdefault.jpg"},"posted":1715024022},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4310964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310960
8 pages and 41 images left to go in "previous" thread you spastic adhd dipshit","attachment":null,"posted":1715024819},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4310990,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310964
lmao its tradition to start a new thread the moment it hits post limit anon!","attachment":null,"posted":1715030559},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4305516
This place looks familiar. Albany, New Hampshire?","attachment":null,"posted":1715038381},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is black and white the final form of photography?

>whats your favorite B&t film to shoot?","attachment":null,"posted":1715039153},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310960
>what kind of "consumer grade" filmstock do you enjoy the most?

Going to say a dark horse here, gold 200. It’s great for color shooting. I don’t shoot any cheap b&w as I fucking hate foma with a passion and don’t see the point in tri-x not being the default cheap b&w","attachment":null,"posted":1715039382},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311047,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310960
I like the fuji 400h that you used to get at pharmacys at shit.
Any of yall shot the new harman film?

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>>4311064
Aw shucks!

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>>4311070
>>4311071
>>4311072
>>4311073
Hey wow, youve really utilized the look of the film well here. Love these.","attachment":null,"posted":1715045069},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311075
Yo thanks thats a solid boost of confidence. /p/ seems hard to please, but I do feel pretty good about how these turned out.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715046626648714.jpg","filename":"AB010.jpg"},"posted":1715046626},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310960
What film should I use for a portrait session outdoors in the evening hours?

>inb4 portra","attachment":null,"posted":1715051339},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310960
>what kind of "consumer grade" filmstock do you enjoy the most?
What does that even mean? I just use Vision3 repacks since they are the cheapest and I like how they look better than Ultramax. B/W I like Delta 3200.","attachment":null,"posted":1715052009},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311068
Never considered using Lomo films before, I thought they were a meme, but these are great. What exactly is Lomo Metropolis btw? Repacked Kodak with a tint applied somehow?","attachment":null,"posted":1715052329},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311098
Thanks my dude. I thought these had some feel to em. I'd give lomo a shot if you are bored or just want a off normal look. I'd stick to their non crazy colored ones.

Yeah, they kinda meme but still fun. Their stuff is mainly kodak with some chem wash or something to give it some "sovl". Metropolis is a stock/style they sell that is designed for muted saturation and punchy contrast. It has an expired film look and goes for hungry teen homeless looking cool on the concrete in Berlin vibes. That said they can be fun to shoot and do make some pretty nice images but I still dont take them 100% serious.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715053719455479.jpg","filename":"AB021.jpg"},"posted":1715053719},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311106,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311091
>tell me what I should use but please don’t mention the best option because I’m a faggot, apparently
Anon pls","attachment":null,"posted":1715054021},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311113,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4311091
Gold 200
HP5 Plus

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>what kind of "consumer grade" filmstock do you enjoy the most?
it was Superia 400 for color
now it's HP5 Plus, usually pushed a stop or 2
I haven't developed the rolls of Tri-X I've shot so it might change soon","attachment":null,"posted":1715057186},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311123,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311068
>>4311104
I agree, I'm digging the vibes especially on these two.

>>4311115
>>4311118
I feel like Retro 80S doesn't get as much love as it should","attachment":null,"posted":1715057403},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311106
>best
>implying one film is "better" than another.

I'm asking for suggestions. Maybe someone will suggest something I haven't thought about and provide a compelling reason or example. I know Portra(AS IN PORTRAIT) is good for portraits. I don't need it suggested.","attachment":null,"posted":1715058212},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I found out something really cool today when making 4x5 wetplates/contact prints.

Contact prints where your magnification ratio is close to or greater than 1:1 look amazing because the subject matter is larger rather than smaller than in real life. Even if the plate/print is relatively small it feels big because of the subject matter being magnified!
Maybe obvious to some, but I found it to be an interesting realization after I did some ~3x mag macro shots.","attachment":null,"posted":1715058929},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311133,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311123
Haha im glad you dig those bc technically I shouldnt have shared them, its against the rules to photograph these areas, but I couldnt resist","attachment":null,"posted":1715060141},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311137,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What are some good film stocks that have a cooler/greener look like 400H and are easy to buy today?","attachment":null,"posted":1715063537},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Would anyone here be interested in my SWC? Figured I'd try here before listing it elsewhere and have to pay fees.

>Camera works great
>This film back is finicky and sometimes has issues
>$1350

Can post more pics and contact info it anyone is interested","attachment":null,"posted":1715083889},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311217,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311216
Forgot pic

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I have never shot black and white film in my life.
How do I meter this so that I don't fuck it up?
Will be shooting this outdoors on an overcast day.

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Highlights","attachment":null,"posted":1715084300},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311221

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>At f8 set 200 shutter speed","attachment":null,"posted":1715084675},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311226,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311224

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>>4311224
>>4311226","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715085091504501.png","filename":"2kwqBL8K34X1T4FGav5rWY0zrgr3RG_d8g.png"},"posted":1715085091},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311308,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311218
kind of a banger with the Holy light leak blessing your image -- 10/10, ignore the sharpness/focus faggot that replied","attachment":null,"posted":1715095315},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311324,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311308
Nice samefag, learn to focus fucking tard","attachment":null,"posted":1715097378},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311325,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311218
If this were an intentional use of defocus it would be cool but knowing you're a /p/ user and did it by accident ruins the photo","attachment":null,"posted":1715097475},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311329,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311217
Were you careful to not get much stripper juices on it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715097678},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"shot some abandoned boats and a quarry on FP4 pushed to 400
getting fucking tired of getting scans with black levels blown the fuck out

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different dude, learn to appreciate The Light","attachment":null,"posted":1715098211},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311337,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311330
and of course some kind of fuck up by the lab on few frames

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Shooting FP at 400 when HP exists and complaining about tonal fuckups is a bit of self-own desu","attachment":null,"posted":1715101288},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311308
>ignore the sharpness/focus faggot that replied
They are all rubbish snapshits that belong on cutting room floor. >>4311221 included, only thay one is at least correctly focused.
>>4311218 is both out of focus AND haS camera shake, like nigga wtf are you doing. This is accidental exposure tier shit.
>>4311224 is the closest to a serviceable composition (even if a banal symmetry one), but you were still a step or two too far to the left. And forgot to focus.
If those are the best you got out of the roll then God damn anon you need to keep practicing, and slow down and start thinking about what you're doing before you release the shutter. Have a mental checklist, exposure, focus, composition, and make sure all are checked. If they're not, then don't waste film on it.
And have some critical eye for your own work, even if this is the first roll you shot then you should be able to tell what's in focus and what is not. And just because they're your least shit doesn't mean they're worth posting, they're still shit.
Good luck, hope to see some BETTER work from you at some point.","attachment":null,"posted":1715103678},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311393,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311329
Nah couldn't stop it. Bitches loveed it when I hit em with the SWC, started creaming all over it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715104583},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311431,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311219
meter for the shadows and you'll be fine","attachment":null,"posted":1715109626},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311432,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311330
this was my thought lmaoooo >>4311364","attachment":null,"posted":1715109774},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311364
>>4311432
nah I don't think so, it's the problem of the scanner used by the lab, I've had many other films shot on native iso or pushed and the black levels were fucked on some, even when the exposure was fine
nothing wrong with pushing FP4

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>Professional
>Professional
>Professional
You're buying film that explicitly says, right on the box, that it's meant to be shot for profit. Of course it's expensive.","attachment":null,"posted":1715123833},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311489,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Been looking to get into photography and I would like to start with an analog one. I've read the Nikon FM series are a good purchase. Are they okay for a beginner trying to figure out the hobby?","attachment":null,"posted":1715124449},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310960
>what kind of "consumer grade" filmstock do you enjoy the most?
I've been digging Gold lately
Not literally, unfortunately

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What's stopping you?","attachment":null,"posted":1715125257},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311497,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311487
>>4311481
Other than e100 that’s the average price for film.","attachment":null,"posted":1715126116},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311523,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311490
lmao gold is "professional" now, apparently
>>4311487
>>4311481","attachment":null,"posted":1715131945},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311525,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Found a plustek 7200 (second hand) for a really good price, going to be picking it up this weekend to replace my v550 for 35mm scans, anyone else here use one and have any sample pics? and does the 7200 differ from the 8100 much at all?

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probably
get whatever you think will get you out shooting, they're pretty much all the same","attachment":null,"posted":1715134491},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311541,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311491
Force of will","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715137898610971.jpg","filename":"trator_composicao_medres.jpg"},"posted":1715137898},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311554,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311481
Just shoot 120 for a project or if you’re getting paid if it’s such an issue.","attachment":null,"posted":1715140385},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311556,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311124
Why?","attachment":null,"posted":1715140732},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311219
1) Expose for what you need and just except that either top or bottom is going to clip.
2) expect it to be extremely sharp and detailed as far as the middle is concerned (like the anti fomapan)
3) Be ready for the grain
4) handles pushing (dono about pulling) very well though i shoot it at box speed 90% of the time

Play around with light. it handles contrast very well. anything that glints like water or a window blowing out looks wonderful.
The film to take for a sunny day .","attachment":null,"posted":1715141676},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311566,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311561
I shoot all my XX at 800. Comes out nice.","attachment":null,"posted":1715141956},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311572,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311481
>using anything except kentmere or foma
>probably just going to be all snapshits anyway
Yeah I mean a fool and their money and all that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715142403},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311573,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311124
>I know Portra(AS IN PORTRAIT) is good for portraits.
If you admit this, I understand your question even less. Why not use what works and is a known quantity? Slight differences in colour temperature are not going to improve your snapshits. I don’t get it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715142569},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311577,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311566
I know it does but what makes it special for me is that excellent tri-x worthy tone separation that has at box speed.
But i use use it more as a street , then a portraiture film.

Just shot a theater production on it yesterday.
(Attribute any spelling mistakes to me staying for drinks with the cast and only getting home at 2 am)","attachment":null,"posted":1715143295},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311572
XX takes a giant steaming shit all over foma and kentmeres hairless and effeminate chest without even breaking a sweat.","attachment":null,"posted":1715143298},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311579,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311561
>>4311577
Let me add that this a film that really benefits from spot metering","attachment":null,"posted":1715143467},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311577
Do you use d96 for it as well? I just use rodinal 1+100 stand, or 1+50 because I'm lazy.","attachment":null,"posted":1715143680},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311588,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311580
D-96 or D-76 depending on what i want/have.

I've had really bad luck sending it to the lab. IDK why but they dont wash it properly. Maybe it's just confirmation bias but i dont trust them with XX film.","attachment":null,"posted":1715145268},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311590,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311566
retarded question but do you push process it at 800 or just normal process","attachment":null,"posted":1715146201},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311590
For stand dev I may or may not add an extra ml or 2 of rodinal depending on my mood. If I'm doing a 1+50 dilution I follow the massive dev chart.","attachment":null,"posted":1715147337},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311597,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311364
>>4311330
>self own
same for letting someone else do your scans and then bitching about them
but tbqhfa m
>fp4
The worst fucking film out; not fast, not sharp, not cheap, won't hold a latent image for more than 5 minutes, takes ages to process.
Its only strength is that you can blow it the fuck out with contrast and it keeps building an image without blocking up. It's probably pretty easy to print from as well.","attachment":null,"posted":1715147433},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311220
I bet it has something to do with the retarded bongboomer pensioners at alaris fucking with everything. You can get a 400' roll of E100 from Eastman for what equates to about $7 per 36 exposures","attachment":null,"posted":1715147556},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311481
what camera are you shooting this with?","attachment":null,"posted":1715148359},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311596
>underexposing 5222 in rodinal
based grainfag
pic related is 5222@800 in rodinal 1:50","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715152049092014.jpg","filename":"scan0047.jpg"},"posted":1715152049},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311612
probably metered incorrectly and underexposed more than intentionally
pic related is from the same roll","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715152208882156.jpg","filename":"scan0037.jpg"},"posted":1715152208},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Story time:

I had just finished a photoshoot where I used quite a bit of bulbs and flash photography and being too lazy to disassemble it all completely was carelessly shoving it into my car when two police officers approached me asking to have a look at my photos.

I tried to explain that it was film (which didn't seem to mean much to em). I was then told that there had been a local creep taking upskirts of kids and that one way or the other they would have to look at my pictures.

In my most patient voice I explained that I would have to develop the film first, Which they interpreted as a delaying tactic, as they then threatened to confiscate my film until they could determine that they were safe.

I was only allowed to go after I called up the model to confirm where I was and to show them some Instagram photos she took.

Fucking pigs man.","attachment":null,"posted":1715153322},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311617
>giving off such big creep vibes that the police make up a reason to fuck with you
Have you tried looking like less of a miserable misanthrope in public?","attachment":null,"posted":1715153771},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311621,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311617
whats your BMI and BO? onions? i'm surprised the model didn't just disown you over the phone just for the lels","attachment":null,"posted":1715154584},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311621
>>4311618

Thin dude, no bo.
My honest guess is they mistook me for a tranny. I have shoulder length hair and had nail polish on (it's called style look it up lol)
I work with people all the time so i don't generally give off a creepy vibe.

But who knows what's normal among artsy people is probably the first sign of the Antichrist to suburban cops.","attachment":null,"posted":1715158627},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311635,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311554
27 rolls of 35mm would cost the same lol. Granted it'd be more exposures.

>>4311572
I've never used Kentmere but foma is trash. The images themselves are ok but the curl level of the film image is insane and you have to always shoot it at half box speed to get usable images. Foma is trash.","attachment":null,"posted":1715163581},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"took some delta3200 and shot some moody underexposed pics

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its called being an icky fag lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715164230},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311639,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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>astro on slide
Absolute madman. How did you meter and calculate reciprocity?","attachment":null,"posted":1715172961},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Just developed a roll and it's all light leaks everywhere... maybe half the frames are usable

I have 12 more undeveloped for a project i've been working really hard on.

I feel like crying.","attachment":null,"posted":1715173661},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311662,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311657
I doubled for recipro, though I did find a rough guide that went up to 8mins ish, this was 1 hour at 5.6 on the 45mm f4 for my 6x7. It's a touch under, I wish i'd gone a half stop brighter on the aperture, and then longer on the exposure as it would've given me cooler star trails. There's a weird dip in light at some point in the trail though, my guess is someone didn't see my camera setup in the dark and blocked it a bit while I was doing digital work","attachment":null,"posted":1715175263},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311665,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What B&W 120 film would you use to get as close as possible to the Oppenheimer look?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715176633068482.jpg","filename":"oppenheimer-christopher-nolan6.jpg"},"posted":1715176633},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311666,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311541
>critique wanted yadda yadda

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It was shoot on Double X so...","attachment":null,"posted":1715176911},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311665
5222, thats what it was shot on according to /tv/","attachment":null,"posted":1715176914},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311670,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311666
I like this first one better because of the composition, but although I don't quite like the cars blocking the view in picrel I wanted to capture that couple on the stairs and it worked

>>4311665
Kodak Double-X since it's the film stock used for the film
You already searched for "Oppenheimer Nolan" on Google to get that photo, could have just added "black and white film stock" to your search and get your answer right away

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>>4311104
Metropolis, turquoise and purple are coated by InnovisCoat/ORWO. They are not Kodak","attachment":null,"posted":1715177437},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how fucked would I be for shooting Fuji 200 (we all know it's Gold 200 essentially) at f/5.6 1/250 in broad daylight? I think that's like three stops overexposed, thinking with Sunny 16 in mind. My subject was a few cows in a grass field, chilling outside where there were no shade.

gonna get it developed in a few days, but I'm not feeling optimistic about those particular pics","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715181092798814.jpg","filename":"1000002846.jpg"},"posted":1715181092},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311612
High grain, high sharpness is a compromise I'm willing to make.

That picture would be so awesome to print big on some nice fiber paper. Love me a big, grainy print.","attachment":null,"posted":1715181196},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311612
that looks like ass tho","attachment":null,"posted":1715181534},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311686,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311683
Nah, printlet.","attachment":null,"posted":1715183673},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311688,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311682
thanks bro
will try to print it and this one >>4310459 when i get the opportunity","attachment":null,"posted":1715183866},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311689,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311667
>>4311668
>>4311670
But CineStill's Double X looks like dogshit?","attachment":null,"posted":1715184326},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311689
its the same stock nigga, it will of course look better larger and Oppenheimer was shoot on 70mm.","attachment":null,"posted":1715185303},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311700,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Some photos I shot on my Canon A1 have some weird supposedly light bleed issue. Shot on a Kodak Gold 200. What could cause this?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715186655466437.jpg","filename":"1.jpg"},"posted":1715186655},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311701,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311700
light leaks, probably from the side","attachment":null,"posted":1715186988},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311703,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4311700
You have leaks coming both front and back. Check the padding around the hinge as that is a very common place for leaks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715187379},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311705,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311659
rip
maybe you can turn the light leaks into your project lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715189042},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311706,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311681
Use a light meter next time there's even free light meter apps for your phone","attachment":null,"posted":1715189172},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311689
that's cuz you gotta use the Kodak Double-X (5222) version
besides we're boycotting Cinestill","attachment":null,"posted":1715189256},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311681
I'd say that's between 2 to 4 stops over, depending on how much sky you had in the frame.
I shot a roll of it at 100 and it looked perfect developed normally. The neg is denser, but overall it has a slightly softer, almost pastel flatter look. In some frames it looks even better to me than at 200. In a very few it looks worse.
Pic is one of the worst frames and it's still perfectly workable, I'd just dial it 1/3rd stop down when scanning and fix it further with curves. (This is a raw quick preview scan on full auto and no ICE obviously).
Anyway it's a consumer neg that has a ton of latitude. If the cow pics are critically important, then have it developed at -2. If not very important, and you metered the rest of the roll correctly, then try -1 for a middle ground. Post results.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715189296222427.jpg","filename":"2024_0010_004.jpg"},"posted":1715189296},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311708
looks like a wes anderson movie
man how I hate that faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1715189366},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311709
Didn't think about it, but you're right. It wouldn't look like this after I was done processing it, but maybe I should actually leave it like this and start replicating this style more often just to annoy people kek","attachment":null,"posted":1715190174},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311713,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311578
That may be so, but does it really matter if all you’re shooting is building corners and your annoyed cat, as people here do?","attachment":null,"posted":1715190241},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311659
>doesn’t shoot a test roll or two before embarking on a big project
Holy based retard, RIP","attachment":null,"posted":1715190489},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"what kind of tape for reusing cartridges when bulk loading?","attachment":null,"posted":1715190504},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311716,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311689
They didn’t use cinestill, genius, they used the real thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715190598},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311718,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311715
I used micropore tape, and it works a treat. There's definitely cheaper options, but you don't use much when bulk loading.","attachment":null,"posted":1715190648},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311719,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311715
masking tape has been fine for me tbqh","attachment":null,"posted":1715190672},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311715
that scotch transparent one","attachment":null,"posted":1715191114},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311723,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311718
>>4311719
>>4311720
thanks, so then ill use anything i have lying around except duct tape","attachment":null,"posted":1715191256},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311706
funnily enough, this only happened because I accidentally used the incident meter instead of the spot meter on my phone light meter app. only after I shot off a few shots did I realize I should've thought more logically and critically about the exposure

>>4311708
I may just have it developed for -1 because I really liked those cow pics, but that'd result in the rest of the roll being a stop underexposed... wondering how green/muddy that might make everything else","attachment":null,"posted":1715191263},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311729,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"XX at 800, rodinal stand dev. Additional contrast will be added.

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last i checked rutracker and i think 1337x has it","attachment":null,"posted":1715192752},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311735,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311732
just use NEGAdoctor on darktable","attachment":null,"posted":1715193138},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311738,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"GIWTWM","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715193971138334.jpg","filename":"Castles in Spain.jpg"},"posted":1715193971},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311745,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311659
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are you developing in a shed in your backyard or something?","attachment":null,"posted":1715196195},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311752,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311750
I will be doing that eventually, but for now I have everything crammed in this ilford pop up darkroom. B&h had them on sale for 200 bucks like a month or two ago.

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based","attachment":null,"posted":1715197961},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311758,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311689
no one said shit about Cinestill, moron
literally everyone told you to use Kodak Double-X
would you buy "Abibas" sneakers and then complain that Adidas sucks too?
you can't search look up by yourself the filmstock used, you can't comprehend basic text
just give up already","attachment":null,"posted":1715199539},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311763,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Horizontal crop next if I can fit everything in the frame. I printed both to see which pose I liked better.

THANK YOU CANON AND YOUR 1V AI SERVO MODE!

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>>4311617
maybe they took you for a hippie or a communist. in any case, sorry you had to interact with cops at all
also i think it's now normal for people to not understand film. i snapped a zoomer the other night and he asked to see the pics and i said it was film; analog and i'd need like a week to finish the roll and develop it. he just gave me a confused look","attachment":null,"posted":1715201786},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311712
If you wish to watch one of his movies for refrence, watch The French Dispatch. Gives you a good sense of his style in both b/w and color.","attachment":null,"posted":1715209319},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311617
you should sue those zog golems for harassment and for being retards, and ideally you would also stop being a little gay boy as well","attachment":null,"posted":1715210036},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311689
>CineStill
nobody brought up jewStill, you dumbass. They're a bunch of greedy fucks btw
>>4311758
>would you buy "Abibas" sneakers and then complain that Adidas sucks too?
kek
>>4311718
what's the benefit of it?
>>4311748
based printer
>>4311752
I wish I'd known about that sale","attachment":null,"posted":1715210464},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311796,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"dynamic range aside, is there a physical way to emulate film? color-wise, grain-wise, bloom-wise... like a combination of filter rings or something?","attachment":null,"posted":1715210477},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So I found these, apparently superb lenses, for a great deal on ebay, but the picture had nothing for me to understand the scale of them. The 900mm f16 is truly absurd. Apparently it has a large enough projection for 20x24 negatives.
I WILL be using it with my 4x5 sinar once I drill a plate for it. Stay tuned for more absurdity.

>>4311795
Still going on. The tent has a few flaws and annoyances, but it's good enough for what you pay, all things considered. I wouldn't pay the normal 350 for it...
Lots of room for wetplate printing, but if you're using an enlarger I wouldn't plan on doing anything more than 35mm/contact printing with one of those tiny enlargers. My Leitz v35 enlarger with a 16x20 easel barely fits, and I have to keep the chemistry on the shelf beneath the enlarger. It works, but it is cramped. A custom L shaped table would be nice for it.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1684626-REG/ilford_1181926_pop_up_darkroom.html

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Yea you go buy film and shoot it faggot. Stop trying to imitate something with the real thing is easily accessible

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>maybe they took you for a hippie or a communist
are you americans really this retarded?
>that guy is taking photos
>he's probably plotting to organize the working class and take the means of production
stop being such a paranoid illiterate faggot
anyway
>i think it's now normal for people to not understand film
yes, more than once I've taken pictures of 20-something yo people, so I thought they'd be familiar with film photography
I'm in my late 20's and I remember taking rolls to develop with my father until I was like 12 or something. But I guess people just forget stuff, we just know about it because we shoot film
>allegedly
'cause I ain't seeing much photos
>>4311796
you can shoot digital and then edit a lot, use presets, add texture for grain etc.
it'll never be the same, though
because it's not
but like... why not just shoot film?
and if not shooting film, why try to emulate it? just as a gimmick? that's kinda pointless","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715213019380539.jpg","filename":"composition_medres.jpg"},"posted":1715213019},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311812,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I am going to take photos of the house where they killed Trotsky using my Kiev 4 and Svemacolor, surely that will organize the working class.","attachment":null,"posted":1715213637},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311830,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311806
thanks, not sure if I'll end up buying it anyway though. I'd still need everything else. It is tempting","attachment":null,"posted":1715215880},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311836,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How would I go about getting real crunchy pics? High ISO, half-frame? Can I just push any 400-speed film to 3200? It's been a while since I've shot film and I've never really gotten into black and white, but I've got an idea for a project","attachment":null,"posted":1715216277},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311836
Rodinal","attachment":null,"posted":1715216393},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311838,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311836
I'd shoot Ilford Delta 3200 at 6400 in a half-frame camera (but with sharp lenses so that it doesn't suck ass, like a Pen F) and develop in Rodinal
look up Daidō Moriyama so that you have good references instead of aiming for shit like >>4311612","attachment":null,"posted":1715216782},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"A rare self portrait for all of you.

6x9 format, but this is only an image of a contact print.

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>>4311647

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Cool. Was it an experiment? Might be cool to do a double exposure portrait or landscape with something like that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715222228},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311867,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311863
neat!","attachment":null,"posted":1715222506},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311868,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311865
Yeah I wanna try it with 100 and get a few plate shots with more light at different lengths, maybe a big 4 hour one for lots of movement. It's tricky to do a double cause my 6x7 doesn't have the switch so I'm not sure how I'd go about it","attachment":null,"posted":1715222523},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311869,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311863
cool as fuck, man
good job

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Best photo in /fgt/ in a long time. Congrats!
Are you sure the brightness dip wasn't just clouds? If someone blocked the entire setup then there would be completely empty gaps, no?
A little surprised there are no plane and satellite streaks at all, maybe they were to faint for iso 50.
And I wonder what are those?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715222841155144.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240508-194616-786.jpg"},"posted":1715222841},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311871
>And I wonder what are those?
don't trust me because I'm talking out of my ass, but I'd like for someone to explain to me if that makes sense
could it be some sort of color shift caused by refraction of light/internal reflections on the lens or something like that occurred in specific positions?
because they seem to be roughly at the "same spot" in relation to the length of the adjacent streak, and their brightness seem to match those of the adjacent streaks as well
Again: I have no idea if that's even possible, but I'd like someone to explain if I'm right or wrong or somewhere inbetween and why
because that seems to be something interesting

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You could just use a flash to expose a portrait first and then quickly set it in the tripod. No need to do a "double" exposure.","attachment":null,"posted":1715223380},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311878,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311855
Fat fuck
>>4311863
Looks like my washing machine","attachment":null,"posted":1715223633},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311881,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311875
Oh very true

>>4311871
I think they're geo synch satellites or galaxies maybe, I see them on digital too
No clouds I could see but also it was a moonless night so mughve missed them, especially since they only affect the streaks on one side","attachment":null,"posted":1715223784},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311882,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311878
>nophoto
>trash talks
plebbiest of plebs","attachment":null,"posted":1715223795},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311886,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311878
:( Rude and wrong! My not baggy clothes look slightly baggy, I guess.

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>>4311874
I think geosync satellites is the winner, pic related is what I found after a quick search.
Now OP's homework is to ID them kek (shouldn't be super hard desu)

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Lay some cardboard out on those shelves.
It's what saved my photography crap from being ruined.","attachment":null,"posted":1715226688},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311902,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311886
what do you even search for on ebay for big behemoth glass like that?","attachment":null,"posted":1715228778},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"bros how do I test the focus on a folding camera (Moskva-5 to be specific) my test roll is focusing behind my subject","attachment":null,"posted":1715230828},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311911,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"you can put matte tape on a piece of glass and tape it to the film window.
alternatively tape directly over the film gate but you might get flatness issues then.
myself i've cut out a piece of an old lcd diffuser that can be taped or held over the gate but not everyone has an old busted monitor laying arouund.","attachment":null,"posted":1715232559},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311902
500mm+ focal lengths. Old barrel lenses, you can research different ULF lenses, the rodenstock apo ronar is fairly common on ebay up to 900mm...

Look at this incredibly enormous nikkor lens my search algorithm graciously showed me. I'm tempted to buy it for the size alone. I don't think it would even fit on a 140mmx140mm sinar lens plate!

>>4311895
Noted.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225288480154

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Actually try 360mm+ focal lengths. Seadching for Apo-nikkor comes up with a lot of results for ulf lenses.","attachment":null,"posted":1715240135},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311968,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311888
Nito

Going out this weekend maybe if the weather clears. Gonna try another 1, a 2, and maaaybe a 4 hour on some velvia 100.","attachment":null,"posted":1715248467},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311977,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311888
Also best guess, I'm in NZ so southern celestial pole or whatever you want to call it","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715251787095191.jpg","filename":"ss+(2024-05-09+at+10.47.08).jpg"},"posted":1715251787},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4311989,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311863
Oh and a couple pics from the same roll

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>but like... why not just shoot film?
because it's tiresome to be scavenging for color film for hours on da internet","attachment":null,"posted":1715268901},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312046,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311989
You're aerochrome guy.

>>4311997
Congrats! Looks like you may have some bromide drag going on there. Did you do stand dev?

I love taking pics at the beach even if I'm constantly worried about 1 grain of sand getting in my camera and destroying it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715269844},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312049,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312040
Just buy a 3 pack of gold 200 retard
or the fuji one that is the same but cheaper","attachment":null,"posted":1715270328},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312046
>Did you do stand dev
i did indeed, some negatives look much worse but most were fine i think. ill agitate more next time","attachment":null,"posted":1715271571},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312055,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311931
>1:11
Too dim","attachment":null,"posted":1715271736},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312046
If you're talking about the guy that sometimes posts Aero here, no that would be me. I haven't posted in this thread yet. Figured I was active enough last thread.

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Lower Ausable Lake in NY, the beach below Fish Hawk Cliffs.

Sorry for the late response, just came back to the thread after getting this banger >>4312060","attachment":null,"posted":1715275112},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312078,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312072
Sure, if you have something worth shooting.

>>4310960
Reala

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My dog a few days before he died. He was 12 and was in general poor health.

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>worth shooting
>bald zoomerette","attachment":null,"posted":1715276459},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312096,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312091
And fat","attachment":null,"posted":1715276888},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312097,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312060
Oh, I thought that was the same waterfall you posted a while ago.

Crazy pic. Have you tried making ra4 prints with aero before?

>>4312055
If you had the 6ish feet of bellows to do a headshot with that thing the DoF would be razor thin. F11 isn't usually too dim on a ground glass, but f5.6 is a lot better.

>>4312087
RIP. I'm glad you got some nice pictures to remember him by.","attachment":null,"posted":1715277024},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312091
>>4312096

Literally have never been around a woman.

But the point was to show off the skin tones of Reala. Definitely worth more than a field with a cut off power line on Ektachrome.","attachment":null,"posted":1715277169},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312107,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312098
>Roastie inflated self worth","attachment":null,"posted":1715278070},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312108,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312097
Nah, no longer have access to a darkroom. Now I only fuck around in Lightroom and if I do print something I send it out for someone to do it for me.

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>Zoomerspeak

Literally don't understand what you're trying to say.","attachment":null,"posted":1715278310},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312125,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312098
>the point was to show off the skin tones of Reala
Not sure what you're trying to show off there, she's glowing red. The entire frame is.","attachment":null,"posted":1715280796},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312137,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312125
yeas, i think because on kodak asian skin tended to look green and sickly, so theres a general pink tint on Fujis. IMO its not too bad but maybe its your monitor cali lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1715282304},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312146,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312125
lol fix your screen, looks fine to me","attachment":null,"posted":1715283662},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312098
Sorry roastie your shit filmstock and subject are shit.

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log cabin rotting away or taking photos of your friends. Literally soulless vs soulful

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>Bro let's COOK OUT
>you can bring your cool CAMERA
>It'll be so LIT

I hate hipsters so fucking much. They are the embodiment of soulless consumers following whatever the new trend is, yet they think they're above it and enlightened.","attachment":null,"posted":1715293676},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312222
At least the corn looks tasty... What do you do with your friends?

>>4312209
I hope you made elotes with the corn","attachment":null,"posted":1715294254},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312234,"name":"Sugar","msg":"Why the hell is Minolta AF glass so fuckin cheap now? I remember when Beercans were 200 bucks.

For that, I scored 50/1.4, Beercan with Crossed X, 28/2.8, all Minolta.","attachment":null,"posted":1715296317},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312234
Beautiful.","attachment":null,"posted":1715297160},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312234
>Minolta AF glass so fuckin cheap now?
because A mount has been abandoned since the A99ii and the adapter ring for E mount is as big as an A7x","attachment":null,"posted":1715297819},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312240,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312234
>>4312239
also I got a beercan for 100€ in like 2012 so minolta AF glass has been cheap for a while, it was even an argument for sony alpha

some are still "expensive" tho like the 100mm macro","attachment":null,"posted":1715297912},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312243,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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I paid 75 for the 100 Macro, is it good? I'm putting them on a 7000.

When I was in college I had a 7xi system and loved it. I missed the feel of the body so I got a 9xi and the aperture mechanism died on it so Im looking for another one and these lenses came up pretty cheap","attachment":null,"posted":1715298435},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312246
>I paid 75 for the 100 Macro
nice

>is it good?
there's a great site to answer these questions for all sony lenses but especially A mount including minolta : dyxum.com

and yes they're generally considered quite good

>looking for another one
minolta cameras are generally going for cheap especially the not-so-great ones, you can get a (working) 7D for 100€ or a 500si for 30€","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715298679575690.png","filename":"001910.png"},"posted":1715298679},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312252,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312209
>that schnozz

Shalom","attachment":null,"posted":1715298990},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312253,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4312248

I'm actually on dyxum I haven't been in forever I'll give them a look. I found the 7000 for 10 bucks it was not working and I cleaned the battery contacts and the battery pack and it came to life. Been a great camera so far.","attachment":null,"posted":1715299006},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What film stock do you most want to see brought back.","attachment":null,"posted":1715299197},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312258,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312253
you can also just slap them on a cheapo A mount digishit which is non negligible (sony A37 can be found working sub 10k triggers for 50-80€, A850 for sometimes as low as 200€, full frame, pentaprism) so they're just good lenses to have around

plus there's still adapter rings for every mount anyway (often with AF)","attachment":null,"posted":1715299296},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312259,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4312256
is this a datamining attempt?

Fuji Natura 1600","attachment":null,"posted":1715299307},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312261,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4312256

first for Kodachrome PKR64

I'll suck 50 black dicks in an alley way and give myself AIDS if it means I can shoot this again","attachment":null,"posted":1715299898},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312209
>If you aren’t taking photos of baldies from anime club you aren’t taking photos!
Save those for digital","attachment":null,"posted":1715300482},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312271,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312256
Fuji fp100c","attachment":null,"posted":1715303150},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312273,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312222
lmaoooo look at friendless nigga!","attachment":null,"posted":1715303271},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312275,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312256
Fuji Superia 400","attachment":null,"posted":1715303350},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312281,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312261
how freudian
>>4312273
better than tacking photos of bald basedcucks","attachment":null,"posted":1715304165},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312284,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312264
>>4312281

I'd argue shots of nothing should be saved for digital yet here we are, you probably the type to use portra for fields and sides of cabins instead of PORTRAits. Friendless and bitter. Go outside and approach some people. Socialize.

>>4312228
Fuck yeah we did, that was actually right before we cleared the grill and threw in more charcoal cause more people showed up. Ended up staying in the park till late. That was a good day, gave a few burgers to a few homeless too.

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What you don't bring your camera everywhere? Been doing it for years. Bet longer than you. Wouldn't it be ironic if you were the bandwagoner, nophoto?

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Any Fuji slide film..... :(","attachment":null,"posted":1715306622},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312291,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312040
then shoot digital and embrace the aspects of digital
so again: why emulate film?
why try to make your work appear as something else?
do your photos not stand on their own and they need some "aesthetic" gimmick to look good?
then they're not good to begin with
>>4312060
holy shit, anon
good job
employee-of-the-month-tier photo
>>4312078
was she crying or smoking weed? or did you fuck up the colors in her eyes?
If you didn't fuck up I wouldn't discard yellow fever based on the skin tones, too
>>4312087
I'm sorry for your loss, anon
Pretty sure he was a good boy","attachment":null,"posted":1715307707},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312295,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312256
Astia. Also +1 for Kodachrome","attachment":null,"posted":1715309631},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312304,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I need to buy a Nikon SP. are people on ebay taxing? prices seem steep. where else should I look to buy?","attachment":null,"posted":1715313075},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312306,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312304
>need
do you though?","attachment":null,"posted":1715313133},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312307,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312306
yes :)","attachment":null,"posted":1715313161},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312309,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4312307
you will always pay the highest price on ebay. deals are found locally","attachment":null,"posted":1715313528},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312312,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312234
Sounds like an excuse to pick up an alpha 9 to run all that cheap glass on","attachment":null,"posted":1715314755},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312313,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"talk me out of buying a Contax SLR","attachment":null,"posted":1715314985},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312315,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312261
>I'll suck 50 dicks in an alley
Classic sugar. At least you're getting a
>head
start by shooting menelta garbage.
It's cheap because it's usdm consumer-tier shit. The cameras are clacky plastic trash covered in gimmicks and the lenses are screwdriver af unit focusing dinosaurs. The fabled shitcan only got a rep by not being dredged from quite as dire a sinkhole as the apsc glass sony put out for their SLuT memes, not for being objectively better than anything decent.","attachment":null,"posted":1715315367},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312316,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312315
>edits out the most important “black” part
What did he mean by this?","attachment":null,"posted":1715315521},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312324,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"tomorrow's dev menu : Kodak Tri-X 400 @400 iso in rodinal (1:50)

looking forward to it bros","attachment":null,"posted":1715320290},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">be me
>buy first fully manual film camera
>worry about the lack of autofocus with my poor eyesight
>9/10 times I am focused at infinity

Now
>slam my focus to infinity
>f/8
>subject is sharp every time
holy fuck it's so easy bros,. why did they even bother to invent autofocus?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715320834273630.jpg","filename":"twitch-emote-streaming-media-video-game-hitorigoto-others.jpg"},"posted":1715320834},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312328
>subject is sharp every time
well of course its sharp you're fuckin blind nigga","attachment":null,"posted":1715327363},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312328
>Now try that in low light while not getting blur
>now try it at f/2.8 and hit focus","attachment":null,"posted":1715341479},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312374
>Low light
Flash
>2.8
Not necessary","attachment":null,"posted":1715342472},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312391,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312291
>then they're not good to begin with
90% of the photos in this thread are a waste of film so that's kinda rich","attachment":null,"posted":1715347132},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312391
>nophoto
opinion discarded
or at least grow some balls and offer proper critique mentioning which photos you're talking about instead of making shallow generalizations so that you don't risk getting questioned, faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1715347483},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312394
>nophoto
>>>/vg/agdg","attachment":null,"posted":1715348558},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312402,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312284
>UGH UR WASTING FILM ON ART TAKE PHOTOS OF STRANGERS
Not for 4chan

Are you really the social normie winner if you’re posting snapshits of your bald nerd “friends” on a porn site that hosts such savory things as “all of /trash/“","attachment":null,"posted":1715348884},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312402
Maybe my friends want to be on the same website as
*looks*
Animal fucker friday and transforming into fat dragon women general

Ever think of that","attachment":null,"posted":1715349549},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312412,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312379
>Not shooting MF with the smallest aperture getting the best bokeh","attachment":null,"posted":1715349817},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312399
>illiterate to the point of not being able to express yourself properly but still confident enough to think highly of your opinion
delusional","attachment":null,"posted":1715349889},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312409
Hey, my friends post in those especially tifdwf speak for yourself","attachment":null,"posted":1715350101},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312418,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"

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Fuji Greens ®","attachment":null,"posted":1715350856},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">memetubers tell me I need to buy some overpriced 120 kit from ebay
>buy 1950s era folder instead
>enjoy shooting way more

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>such savory things as “all of /trash/“
There are some quality posts made from time to time.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715352362968214.png","filename":"FTG.png"},"posted":1715352362},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312428
what folder?","attachment":null,"posted":1715353851},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Any anons want to share their reasons for using film over digital?
I'm new to film but some reasons I have are
>Darkroom stuff is simply more fun than staring at Lightroom and Photoshop for 4 hours
>Especially alternative print styles like cyanographs
>Autism","attachment":null,"posted":1715355112},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312459
The last 2 because I haven't done anything darkroom wise.

Also the cameras are more fun to use and there so much more variety, you can use a camera made in the 1930 or a fully automatic one from the 90s with the same film!

People are also more curious about them and they would be more willing to be photographed with one (took a TLR to an anime convention and everyone was asking about it lol)

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For me its the fact that film cams are generally way wackier and interesting than digicams which became standardized pretty quickly.","attachment":null,"posted":1715356692},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312470,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312468
The wackiness is part of why early (like, pre-mid 2000s) digishits can be fun. They were really trying any old thing to see what would work, like picrel

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Mamiya Six
dunno if it's considered an automat, has some weird in-between-model year features like auto-cocking but not the bigger square windows. Regardless it hasnt failed me yet","attachment":null,"posted":1715358328},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"lizerd

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flour

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roark

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Svema DS 100","attachment":null,"posted":1715380443},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">6x7
>645
>6x6
>6x9

This is the correct power ranking of medium format sizes. All other oddball sizes are disregarded.","attachment":null,"posted":1715386486},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312610,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4312470
Yea i got myself a few of those too","attachment":null,"posted":1715387563},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">just developed a roll of film
>unknown to me halfway through increased shutter speed one step
>half the roll severely underexposed","attachment":null,"posted":1715387653},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312630,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4312611
YA LIVE AND YA LEARN","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715391030898205.jpg","filename":"0018.jpg"},"posted":1715391030},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312607
>disregarded
Say that to my face, fucker, not online see what happens.

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shin godzilla poster vibes","attachment":null,"posted":1715406175},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312672,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I think I'm done with the film for a while
> Move to a new place where I can't develop at home.
> No problem there are two places not far from where I live.
> One has literally no idea it offers the service...
> To the other sometimes takes over a month.
> Finally find the dude online who does the job however he is expensive (does slide and tabular films tho)
> The camera develops shutter problems. And I lose 5 rolls.

Together this is just too much I think I'm going to move to digital for a while maybe when I am more settled in I'll go back to film.

Just sucks =(","attachment":null,"posted":1715407231},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312687,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312672
> Move to a new place where I can't develop at home.
nigga what? you can develop film in a hotel bathroom sink
> The camera develops shutter problems. And I lose 5 rolls.
this is why I do a roll on the day I shot it, just portion your chemicals into smaller working batches and don't mix the developer until you're ready to use that batch, seems to last just as long as mixing up a lot and doing lots of rolls at once.","attachment":null,"posted":1715412638},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312688,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312611
If a change in 1 stop of exposure severely underexposed your film then you got bigger problems (unless it was slide I guess)","attachment":null,"posted":1715413782},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312687
>nigga what? you can develop film in a hotel bathroom sink
I'm moving between multiple apartments and Lugging a bag of chemicals with me is the last thing I want.","attachment":null,"posted":1715419564},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So, Tmax400 in HC-110 and Tmax100 in Xtol ?","attachment":null,"posted":1715421025},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312707
>Tmax400 in HC-110
pushed to 1600","attachment":null,"posted":1715430952},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311968
So i remembered the Aurora was out for the first time in a while here, so got two pics that if my math checks out will be exposed roughly the same as this >digital image","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715431778019049.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-12 at 12.26.42 AM.png"},"posted":1715431778},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312607
>This is the correct power ranking of medium format sizes
yea, starting with the shittiest and ending with the best","attachment":null,"posted":1715431862},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312726
bonus I get to wait like 3-4 weeks to find out cause my country has ONE lab that develops slide film","attachment":null,"posted":1715431937},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312730,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Lab I work at just got a shipment of a fuckload of 120 film
What should I buy and what should I shoot? I don't get a ridiculously large discount, but it's enough to make me really tempted to snag a few of the 24 pro-packs of Portra we've got.
Or maybe I'll finally shoot Ektachrome for the first time...
Also is TMAX 400 any good? I can get it for $7 USD per roll at the moment.

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E100 looks great IMO.


Speaking of which I ordered some e100 to shoot for the northern lights and my shipment was delayed. So I now only have either rollei infrared or lomo metropolis (which I've never shot). Which should I shoot?","attachment":null,"posted":1715433724},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312741,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm shooting a roll of foma 400 on a point and shot camera. I don't know how to manually adjust the ISO down to 200 so I'll have to figure something out. Should I just develop it at 400 or develop it at 800 essentially overdeveloping by a stop? This is why I don't like automatic cameras, you can't easily adjust all settings.","attachment":null,"posted":1715436001},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312742,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312741
You gotta hack into the DX encoder mainframe with electrical tape and tinfoil","attachment":null,"posted":1715436387},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312747,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312740
the infrared might be cool looking with the lights. not sure if they emit infrared though. maybe worth researching
>>4312741
you can buy DX code stickers (of any iso) to place over the one on the roll, or just develop at 800.","attachment":null,"posted":1715438364},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312752,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312730
no portra 160 or gold? guess they probably get better margins on the more expensive shit
tmax 400 is excellent but it's pretty expensive so I don't shoot it anymore","attachment":null,"posted":1715440212},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone else end up shooting too many rolls and never developing them? Finally developed a couple of rolls that have been sitting my film fridge for like 2 years.

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Also, anyone have any experience with the Mamiya 6 or Makina 67? I'm hankering for a medium format that is light/small enough to travel with.

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This was shot on retrochrome. Meme film. Terrible and incredibly annoying/difficult to meter correctly.

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Based. I've been on that exact ride as a kid. Are you using an xpan or something?

>>4312766
The mamiya 6 is a really fun camera. Everything is awesome on it except that the meter sucks with the 150mm lens. It works great with the 80 and under tho.","attachment":null,"posted":1715448183},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312788,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312776
Fujifilm TX-1 but yea. The Mamiya 6 looks really sweet, but I'm wary of electronics. (Yea, the TX-1 is also electronic and that makes me nervous because I love it so...)","attachment":null,"posted":1715452352},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312790,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312788
Cool! There's no gay mirrors to slap up your images. Just a little click.

I dont think they're worth the prices that they're fetching these days, but that's just me.","attachment":null,"posted":1715452632},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"don't sleep on your local mom and pop thrift stores, lads! just picked this whole setup up for 40 bucks. they thought it was some kind of surveying tool (though, if you really think about it...) and priced it as-is. It looks like its been sitting in that case out in the open for a while, bit beat up and the shutter is slow, but i'm hopeful to get it going well again. one of the holders had a sheet of film when i opened it, and now i suspect that maybe they all might, but sitting out exposed and free for anyone to handle, they may all be trash. worth trying to develop? never done sheet film before. Thankfully i have a lomograflok already so may be able to get test shots soon. still, for 40bux, even it it doesn't work not a big loss.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715452715550570.jpg","filename":"thriftstorehaul.jpg"},"posted":1715452715},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312791
Super based. I'd toss the film and get some foma100 to test and have fun with. You could possibly figure out the film type based on the notch pattern if you wanted. 210mm will be quite nice for portraits. :D

If you shake a film holder you can usually hear film knocking around if there's any in there. That's how I check.","attachment":null,"posted":1715454109},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What is a good alternative to Negative Lab Pro? The software is good, but Lightroom is absolutely retarded and I hate it. I need a stand alone alternative software. I am willing to pay money.","attachment":null,"posted":1715454693},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312804,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312800
yeah i'm thinking if they do have film its all junk. the camera was out on the thrift store floor in the open by the checkout, so everyone passing by could have played with it and opened the holders. would probably be a waste of time and chems to try and dev them. and i don't have a sheet film tank holder anyway lol. The holders all seem very cheap flimsy plastic also, and some have cracks and tape holding them together. probably not worth keeping. The lomo instax back is graflok so im going to try to get that going on here before i sink money into film.","attachment":null,"posted":1715454701},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312808,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312804
Yeah those film holders look like they may be no good... they're cheap enough used.

That instax back looks really cool, and it will be an excellent tool to practice using the camera. There's a lot to learn and practice if you want to get the absolute most from a monorail/4x5.","attachment":null,"posted":1715455594},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312804
>>4312808
decided to say fuck it and clean all the holders out, and yeah, this film was all toast. 13 sheets in 5 holders, and only one was loaded emulsion side facing out lol. some of them are darkened and they're all scratched up. and the holders are junk, tape holding the end flaps and keeping them from splitting. oh well, like you say they're cheap and sttill was a good value for the camera itself. i just hope the slow speeds loosen up just with use.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715455868179131.jpg","filename":"sad.jpg"},"posted":1715455868},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312811,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312808
you seem to know what you're talking about fren, it also came with a soft bag-like leather material bellows besides the normal scrunchy one on there already. what's that for?","attachment":null,"posted":1715456197},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312820,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312809
The slow speeds will not loosen up with time, but you will get a feel for the shutter speeds. A couple of my shutters are over a stop off on the slower shutter speeds. I just kinda eyeball it.

You can always use it for wetplate colloidion where the exposure times are in seconds! :D

>>4312811
That's a wide angle bellows. It allows you to put the front and rear standard very close to each other, and still utilize movements.","attachment":null,"posted":1715457247},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312828,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312766
By travel do you mean like on a trip or casualty leaving the house. At current prices for both the camera and shooting 120 I wouldn’t just throw just throw it in a bag for fun. You should have a project in mind.","attachment":null,"posted":1715458657},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312829,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312803
Silverfast HDR","attachment":null,"posted":1715458866},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312834,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312829
Thanks for the recommendation I am checking it out.

Is investing in an actual scanner a better idea than scanning with my camera?","attachment":null,"posted":1715459686},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312828
Mainly taking on trips, where it can't take up too much space in the luggage, and be light enough to keep on me all day as I'm walking around.","attachment":null,"posted":1715460114},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312853,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312820
>>4312808
>>4312791
the instax back works beautifully. looks nicer than the scans make it out to be but i didn't adjust the scanner settings lol. man, the last thing i need is to get hooked on super expensive films now, but it seems a lot of fun using this beast.

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Damn. Maybe getting an instax back for my 4x5 will momentarily quell my burning desire to get an 8x10 back for my sinar.

Look into the schiempflug principle, and you'll soon be taking pictures only a view camera can take!","attachment":null,"posted":1715465415},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312876,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312860
>>4312860
The quality isn’t the most amazing it won’t match any of your film, but god damn if instant gratification doesn’t feel good, man. Another test snapshit of dog. Started raining and couldn’t continue using up this instax pack outside sadly. Time to start looking up lenses and shit on eBay now I guess lol.

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I know the feeling from wetplate. It's always great to see the image appear when you drop your plate in the fixer. Very addictive!

A binocular reflex viewing hood is one of my favorite accessories for my sinar. It doesn't replace a loupe, but it gets close, no messing around with a stupid blanket, and it flips the image so you see it right side up.

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90mm, your 210mm, a 350mm, and maybe a 150mm. Those will serve you very well.
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My suggestion is to get an older 65mm or 90mm super angulon like pic. Excellent lens for the price, and wide angle 4x5 is really great.

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Cute dog also! :D","attachment":null,"posted":1715469276},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312885,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Another print I did yesterday. This film has ultra fine grain, but also extremely high contrast. This was a 1 minute exposure at f4 and zero contrast!

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Oops I forgot my pic.

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luv me 2x1
luv me 3x1
'ate 2x3
simple as

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>captcha: tyts","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715478585637941.png","filename":"Captura de tela 2024-05-11 224911.png"},"posted":1715478585},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312906
Of course. This one is still on page one. You better hurry!","attachment":null,"posted":1715478660},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312926,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312761
>2 years
no but I'm back logged by like 4 - 6 months but instead of deving from first to last, I just put em in a bad and choose one at random to dev so I get a nice little surprise roll to develop","attachment":null,"posted":1715488581},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4312928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312766
Get the Mamiya Six","attachment":null,"posted":1715489019},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4313099,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"this happened with some of my negatives,
is there a problem with my shutter or film advance?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715545275764009.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1715545275},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4313108,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313099
Looks like a horizontal cloth shutter issue, if that's what you have.","attachment":null,"posted":1715546609},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4313179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"NEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW","attachment":null,"posted":1715562209},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4313188,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313179
How many pictures are you waiting to share? I have a couple maybe. :D","attachment":null,"posted":1715563793},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4313189,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313188
just scanned two rolls today!","attachment":null,"posted":1715564509},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4313201,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313179
new thread

>>4313200
>>4313200
>>4313200
>>4313200
>>4313200","attachment":null,"posted":1715568260},{"board":"p","thread":4310960,"pid":4313202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313189
Well done!","attachment":null,"posted":1715568361}]} {"title":"telecine from 16mm projector","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4310992,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I was given a 1940s projector and about 2 dozen reels of home movies from 1936-1960s. I want to try recording the picture from the wall instead of sending them in to be digitized (about $1300 for all)
Two issues: the projector has a variable speed knob so there’s no way of knowing what speed it’s running at (fps)
Second: I don’t know what the frame rate is of the captured film, did home portable 16mm cameras have a standard rate?

When I try to capture with my video camera I get rolling bars and blurred frames because the recording frame rate (I set it to 1/30) is out of sync with the projector. Anyone have any advice?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715030643939408.jpg","filename":"s-l1600.jpg"},"posted":1715030643},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4310994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This is an example of what happens","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715030863644768.webm","filename":"1962 - car.webm"},"posted":1715030863},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4310995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310994","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715031267656328.webm","filename":"hawaiiboat2.webm"},"posted":1715031267},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311046,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310992
If your phone can do 120fps video capture do test recordings of projected film, playback footage at 30 fps and calculate framerate by counting frames lol
Should be able to dial it in that way?","attachment":null,"posted":1715040204},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311079,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310992
buy a small rearscreen projector/build your own from the material and record it that way. DIY telecine.","attachment":null,"posted":1715046302},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311150,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">telecine
the fuck
is it the 1990s?
did I travel back in time??

either buy a dedicated scanner or jerryrig some DSLR scanning setup or something
but whatever you do DO NOT telecine

fucking zoomers","attachment":null,"posted":1715066667},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311204,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311150
>buy a dedicated scanner
Ok.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715080848461217.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240507-042020-989.jpg"},"posted":1715080848},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311258,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311150
16mm scanning is expensive as hell bro. I told you I was quoted $1300 for the whole set, and it’s not even my home movies. But most of the stuff was shot on Kodachrome so it looks beautiful and I want to preserve what I can before vinegar syndrome kicks in","attachment":null,"posted":1715088350},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311204
Kodak Slide N Scan is 180 bucks
IT8 Kodachrome target is another 50 if you want true to life colours

this being a photoboard I would assume OP has a dSLR or something and if he is at least a little bit resourceful then throwing together a scanning rig is easy
recording of off a screen when he can't even guarantee the framerate is going to be a pain in the ass
>>4311258
do you even know what a telecine is?
you are going to slaughter these reels
better to pay the 1300","attachment":null,"posted":1715089159},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311275,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311264
Maybe telecine was the wrong word. I’m using a dslr to record the projection on the wall but there’s no way to sync frame rates when you don’t know what they are","attachment":null,"posted":1715091032},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311281,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311275
yes, that's why you need to scan it then convert it to a normal, progressive video","attachment":null,"posted":1715091691},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311289,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310992
>so there’s no way of knowing what speed it’s running at (fps)
its called a laser tachometer and a paint pen or some white tape. you can get it on amazon for like $20

>When I try to capture with my video camera I get rolling bars and blurred frames because the recording frame rate (I set it to 1/30) is out of sync with the projector. Anyone have any advice?
assuming your camera has anti-flicker features to keep it from catching flickering from indoor lighting, try running the projector at 60fps assuming you're in the US in hopes that it'll detect the projector flicker and AC lighting induced flicker","attachment":null,"posted":1715092938},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311312,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311264
>scanning 16mm on a 35mm scanner
You would to manually line up every single frame which could take weeks to do a 3 minute video. I did a single scan in my 8100 opticfilm

>>4311289
60fps on the projector would destroy it lol. I figure old home cameras didn’t record past 30fps so the projector would hover somewhere around there

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going by the fact that 1300 USD is a lot he will have to spend the time
it's like that every time
either spend the money
or the time","attachment":null,"posted":1715096963},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311322,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310994
That is actually a funny video.","attachment":null,"posted":1715097246},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311326,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311319
For me yes, If they were my grandpas movies it would be worth my money but I got these second hand from an estate sale, I’m guessing he’s the kid in these videos. He was 95 when I saw him.
I’m mostly interested in the historical aspect of these, his parents were pretty wealthy in these videos and a lot of places they visit are very different now
>>4311322
After watching almost 4 hours of home movies I feel like this family would’ve been cool to live with lol","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715097499383343.webm","filename":"1958_home.webm"},"posted":1715097499},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I do have some old reels that came bundled with some gear i bought and it would be cool to see what is on them.

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I didn't realize 16mm frames were so close to each other, I guess it's nice that almost no film gets wasted.
Epson Scan (with V600 and V850 that I have at least) can auto-detect frames from 35mm strips. I wonder if it would be smart enough to detect 16mm frames in the same mode. The 35mm holders hold either 3 or 4 6-frame 35mm strips, so best case you'd have 48 16mm frames per cycle. So at least 2 seconds of footage. But it's at least 5 minutes of work (setting up film strips and scanning itself) per holder, so not really viable. And you'd have to cut the film into strips, too, which sucks.
I wonder if you could build a dslr scanning rig, have reels attached on both sides of lightbox, and have RPi it something controlling motor attached to one of the reels, and automatically trigger the camera too. You could probably automate cropping and exporting the frames to prores or something too. Would be an involved but pretty cool project to do.","attachment":null,"posted":1715108179},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4311470,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311312
>60fps on the projector would destroy it lol.
stop being a pussy, other people have done it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB2IfhYkIpI","attachment":null,"posted":1715118047},{"board":"p","thread":4310992,"pid":4313983,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311322
Life looked good back then. This family has 16mm Kodachrome color video of LA, Florida, Hawaii, Gautemala, Mexico, Sweden and, South America all from the 1940-60s. That alone is pretty neat.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715778196552831.webm","filename":"1958-florida.webm"},"posted":1715778196}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4310847,"pid":4310847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"In the context of film data sheets what does "daylight" mean? How many kelvins? 5000K? 6000K?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714997408228904.jpg","filename":"e4040_portra_800.pdf.jpg"},"posted":1714997408},{"board":"p","thread":4310847,"pid":4310854,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Nobody knows","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715003858380978.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240506-155623~2.png"},"posted":1715003858},{"board":"p","thread":4310847,"pid":4310857,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310854
>Vision3
oh yes the famous Kodak Vision3 photography film
everyone on /p/ and their grandma uses it","attachment":null,"posted":1715005206},{"board":"p","thread":4310847,"pid":4310863,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310857
Unironically, yes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715006424},{"board":"p","thread":4310847,"pid":4310870,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310857
I bought 5 rolls from brooktree instead of spooling it myself","attachment":null,"posted":1715007267},{"board":"p","thread":4310847,"pid":4310874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310870
Based and lazy pilled

I always get 42-43 exposures out of those","attachment":null,"posted":1715008185},{"board":"p","thread":4310847,"pid":4311153,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How do you convert Log Exposure (lux-seconds) table to EV+/- dynamic range ?","attachment":null,"posted":1715066780},{"board":"p","thread":4310847,"pid":4311188,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311153
https://www.filmshooterscollective.com/analog-film-photography-blog/a-practical-guide-to-using-film-characteristic-curves-12-25
scroll down","attachment":null,"posted":1715074247},{"board":"p","thread":4310847,"pid":4311339,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311188
Ok thanks
I'm trying to create exposure profiles in sekonic light meter for some film stocks i'm planing to use","attachment":null,"posted":1715099293}]} {"title":"Real Estate/Architecture","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4310663,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How overbaked is too overbaked?

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great if you're going for the "playstation 1 JRPG background you see during a charge attack" sky there","attachment":null,"posted":1714956087},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4310758,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310734
I'm not sure it's crooked so much as the panorama distortion couldn't be fully correcred by keystone, left side looked pretty straight.","attachment":null,"posted":1714957907},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4310759,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310758
Different panorama perspective, was with a 50mm lens through the fencd

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Crop it just a little bit, from the right","attachment":null,"posted":1714969819},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4310852,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310663

If you are talking about real estate for business, you cannot really overbake. People likes popping 3D rendering crazy colors.
If you are talking about actual architecture photography, then colors and composition are really important and everything depends by the actual architectural culture of the place you are working on, but usually desaturated colors are apreciated.","attachment":null,"posted":1715001609},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4312213,"name":"BurtGummer","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715293190206256.jpg","filename":"53533823673_74bcd99b7e_k.jpg"},"posted":1715293190},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4312215,"name":"BurtGummer","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715293262950441.jpg","filename":"53229527771_e470541611_k.jpg"},"posted":1715293262},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4312216,"name":"BurtGummer","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715293340006848.jpg","filename":"53301993805_d18b2e9591_k.jpg"},"posted":1715293340},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4312218,"name":"BurtGummer","msg":"

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I've been mogged","attachment":null,"posted":1715315802},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4312326,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How the hell do I fix distortions? This shit is impossible, some line is always bent or crooked
>>4312218
brutal, really cool

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Get a lens with less distortion. Or better yet, a tilt-shift lens.","attachment":null,"posted":1715324862},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4312336,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312330
t-s lenses are great but I shoot buildings way too rarely to justify getting one.
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>How the hell do I fix distortions? This shit is impossible

I do it with a combination of shift lens, rectilinear lens (low distortion), and correction software like DXO viewpoint","attachment":null,"posted":1715364790},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4312558,"name":"BurtGummer","msg":">>4312509
This.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715377116532683.webm","filename":"1687285751499062.webm"},"posted":1715377116},{"board":"p","thread":4310663,"pid":4312599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312336
>t-s lenses are great but I shoot buildings way too rarely to justify getting one.
What about a t-s girlfriend instead then?","attachment":null,"posted":1715383090}]} {"title":"2024 Japan on Film","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311215,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Going to start dumping film scans from my recent trip to Japan that started in February. I've developed most my film, but I still have a handful of b&w rolls to develop. I'll post that stuff if this thread is still up by then.

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The grave crime of posting photos on a photography board","attachment":null,"posted":1715085494},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311233,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311231

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yikes","attachment":null,"posted":1715085876},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311234

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photo thread baysed","attachment":null,"posted":1715086651},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311239

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I really like the light, but maybe a tad more contrast would help, it looks a bit raw
>>4311236
Very nice grey heron, love those birds
>>4311238
Wish this were in focus","attachment":null,"posted":1715086809},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311244,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311242

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Thanks

There I missed focus a lot on that roll. Unfortunately. It was on-off heavy snow that day, had a lot of concern for the weather sealing in my old slr

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Im open to hitting less touristy spots next time I go, if you have any suggestions

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Chinese tourist, who I met on the shinkansen, with some fujifilm camera

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These would be so much cooler if you had an a7iii","attachment":null,"posted":1715094558},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311305,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311302

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I brought an a7riii, but I never unpacked it.

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Very nice, I feel like there's a bit of imge that's left unexploited here though, maybe trying to edit it further can get you somewhere; we barely see the bird now unfortunately
>>4311247
baby
>>4311237
Amazing stuff going on there with the bird taking flight and the old man, but you're trying to show both and result in actually bringing our attention to neither
Maybe a 16:9 crop, or only focusing on the man and his smoller birb would have been beneficial
>>4311253
pretty good, light colours, well put in the frame; 7/10 would put on the second page of the papers
>>4311257
Love that one, though maybe I'd crop it in a bit, very good use of wide angle outside
>>4311259
Very cute, sharp, intemporal/10
>>4311261
Would like this more if it were black and white or normal colours, but it's very nice, not too much of the Shirakawa Go cliché and good lines
>>4311284
aaaaa the pain
>>4311292
Not bad, Moriyama style snap, with less contrast
>>4311307
If you get a choice between making the blurry subject blurier, or the clean text sharper, go for the text; it doesn't matter that you didn't focus closer to it, and now we have this barrier of out of focus details in the front that makes us look behind it, where there's unfortunately nothing much to see

Some good photos in there, good job Anon!
I like the vibes, I hope you had a good time exploring Japan and seeing Miyajima!
Hiroshima best prefecture

If I can give some advice, it's that sometimes I don't really know where to look, my eyes have a hard time latching on to the composition in your images; I like using the rule of thirds to give directions for the eye to follow, when I don't have an obious subject, such as a human

If you have more, do show!

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All great input, thanks anon. I do think my post processing is weak at the moment. I am still learning how to use lightroom, and my scanning setup is kind of jank. I find film a lot harder to edit to my liking than digital. Digital raw feels like a blank canvas is comparison. Unfortunately the digital shooting experience is less fun for me.

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Do you visit Japan often anon?","attachment":null,"posted":1715098033},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311318
I can understand that, having a reliable scanner makes things way easier, but I find that starting fom something other than a blank canvas is nice too!

Here's how I edit my stuff, it takes 3 to 5 minutes per picture if I really get into it

For film I recommend creating a curve layer for your colours.
Move from R to G to B, playing with the settings, looking at specific things that depend a lot on these colours until they look right (or good)

Curve layer for light is a must to start, then I usually create one or two more curve layers which I inverse, so that I can "paint" light/shadows/contrast in specific spots

The Hue from Hue/saturation is also good sometimes, used very lighyly

Same for the color balance tool, very nice to quickly re-do the white balance from scratch

>>4311331
Not at all unfortunately, I went there twice, once for half a year, the second time for a couple of weeks
Took as many pictures as I could though, hey","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715106946432421.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_1.jpg"},"posted":1715106946},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311409
These are super useful to quickly edit your picture too

Use the first dipper to choose the darkest point in the image, the middle one to choose a midpoint, and the last to choose a white point
Boom, you've just calibrated the picture (I like to use the middle one and mash the left click of my mouse on a shadowy area until the photo looks right, and that's usually a good start)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715107104355957.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_2.jpg"},"posted":1715107104},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311215
Those look so smooth especially for low light, what film and format?","attachment":null,"posted":1715107220},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311411
And since you've already seen my autism, here's what it looks like on a finished edit

>>4311413
Am also interested in that gear!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715107471905478.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_1.jpg"},"posted":1715107471},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311419,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311413
I think its mostly how he edited his scans, or maybe even how he scanned them to begin with. There's a lot of smoothing, while a lot of lab scans apply sharpening that enhances the grain, and scan dry which makes it even worse.","attachment":null,"posted":1715107766},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311416
Thanks for all the tips, actually really good info","attachment":null,"posted":1715131027},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311520,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311413
Cinestill 800 35mm

I think the smoothness is a combo of my scanning setup and that I just screenshotted the jpegs with my phone to post. I can see the grains when zooming in on the original files, but it does feel less pronounced than typical lab scans.

Other gear info: Nikon FE2 with the 28mm 2.8 and 50mm 1.8 pancake. Most of the film I shot was kodak gold, lomo purple, and kentmere 100. I also shot two rolls of provia, and that was my introduction to slide film.","attachment":null,"posted":1715131364},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311551,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311284
really fucked this one up. could have been good but u stuffed focus","attachment":null,"posted":1715139978},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4311646,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311551
I really need a diopter for my slr. When there aren't straight lines for me to use the split prism, I struggle to nail focus.

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oh...","attachment":null,"posted":1715277695},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4312920,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311233
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There is something wrong with the color grading on the faces","attachment":null,"posted":1715490528},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4312936,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311215
why are they all so fucking noisy :(
>it's film
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:|
>Vacation snaps, Japan
:o
>Vacation snaps, Japan, film
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An absolute mad man, shooting birds in flight with a film camera. I'm surprised the shots are actually mostly in focus.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715497104301569.png","filename":"koone.png"},"posted":1715497104},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4312961,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311233
Underexposed","attachment":null,"posted":1715498905},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4312970,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311233
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>>4312104
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>>4312970
God I hate this place. No discussion of the actual photography but as soon as you rats see a black guy you lose your minds.
Whatever you can say about reddit at least they actually talk about the photos on their photo boards.","attachment":null,"posted":1715509141},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4313016,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312992
I like it.
Why's it so soft though?","attachment":null,"posted":1715518048},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4313450,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311278
Get on a random train. Ride it till the end. Walk around a bit. You're guaranteed to find something good to shoot. Especially when you hit small towns.","attachment":null,"posted":1715641137},{"board":"p","thread":4311215,"pid":4313981,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313450
This is pretty much what I did. I only planned where my accommodation would be, otherwise I just went wherever I was feeling in the moment. I coughed up the money for the 21 day JR pass, so I wasn't afraid of detours. I took the longest route from takayama to kanazawa, and it was well worth it. It was hard to not hit the touristy spots at all as I was a first timer. I've been constantly day dreaming about going back. I really want to hit hokkaido in the summer and do some hiking/backpacking. Something about summitting a 10k in the morning, then going back down the mountain for ramen is super appealing.

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thx
shot at a 30th on accident, I expected a softer image desu

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Sand to absorb the oil","attachment":null,"posted":1715125545},{"board":"p","thread":4311492,"pid":4311495,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311493
Of course! Genius.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715125689941972.png","filename":"7791.png"},"posted":1715125689},{"board":"p","thread":4311492,"pid":4311518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311492
Dunk the entire thing in 99% iso alcohol and re-oil using the correct oil.","attachment":null,"posted":1715130097},{"board":"p","thread":4311492,"pid":4311849,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311492
>I absolutely fucked my Zeiss Nettar by oiling the mechanism.
How did you apply the oil? Did you just ejaculate oil into the mechanism or what?
What made you want to oil it?
>How to I unfuck this?
Disassemble the whole thing very very carefully and clean the oil away. Reassemble using watch oil.","attachment":null,"posted":1715218670},{"board":"p","thread":4311492,"pid":4311854,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4311492

The entire mechanism doesn't need to be oiled only parts of it. Apply some naptha or lighter fluid liberally in that area and try to work it.

The correct thing to do is to disassemble and clean in lighter fluid and lubricate.

>>4311849

This is incorrect many of these leaf shutters actually used molybdenum to lubricate them, watch oil or oil in general is too viscous and will slow the shutter mechanism down.","attachment":null,"posted":1715219821},{"board":"p","thread":4311492,"pid":4312035,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311854
so just dump it in liqui moly
Fixed","attachment":null,"posted":1715268488}]} {"title":"Best Camera for Feet Photography","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311600,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I plan on getting a camera for decent feet photography. Most of the images I see are very unprofessional and of much lower quality than they could be. It would also be ideal if I could record decent 4K video with this camera.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715148479458794.jpg","filename":"20240504 Becca Soles Yummy Hot Sexy Delicious Asian Feet.jpg"},"posted":1715148479},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311602,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311600
Well Tarantino is a firm believer in film, so I'd probably start there.

But on a serious note:
>decent... photography
>record decent 4K video
Easy, get yourself a Panasonic S1/S5/S5iiX","attachment":null,"posted":1715148693},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311603,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311602
>Panasonic S1/S5/S5iiX
Damn. That's expensive. I'll get one of those when I start making more money. One of my dreams since I was 14 or 15 is to become a feet photographer and get to worship women's feet on the regular. It feels just as good as sex, but women will let you play with their feet for far less than their bodies.","attachment":null,"posted":1715148885},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311603
The S1 and S5 are both around $1k used, which is a pretty reasonable entry price for the excellent quality you'll get. You won't be able to spend much less and get the quality video and stills you want and it'll be cheaper in the long run if you just save up more and buy the gear you want up front rather than settling for something sub-optimal to save a few bucks. Changing lens mounts is very expensive.

>One of my dreams since I was 14 or 15 is to become a feet photographer and get to worship women's feet on the regular
Some advice; do not use photography as a means to cheat your way into sex stuff. Women know immediate what you're trying to do and they will want nothing to do with you. If I were you, I would be open and up front that you want to shoot foot fetish pornography and bill it as such. Also just because you're shooting porn doesn't mean you get to be in it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715149883},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311605
>Some advice; do not use photography as a means to cheat your way into sex stuff. Women know immediate what you're trying to do and they will want nothing to do with you.
My idea has been to just find women over the internet to let me take photos and videos of their feet and to gradually move up to having their feet sniffed and then having their feet slobbered all over. "May I please sniff your feet?" "May I please lick your feet?" My plan has even gone as far as to create a website that only shows clean images of women's feet with nothing naughty for the purpose of not freaking out any prospective clients. The primary website would show everything, including me slobbering all over their feet.

I created this website a few years ago, and it's still up. I got locked out accidentally, and I've been too lazy to try to regain access through the VPS provider. It used to be an https site, but it no longer is, but this should be an easy fix once I get back in.
http://footmodeling.xyz/","attachment":null,"posted":1715150872},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311602
You'd choose s1 or s5 if want to get yourself crippled. Why not s5ii/x?","attachment":null,"posted":1715151289},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311600
Look for high maximum magnification/close focusing wide angle lenses. You want to have the subject in focus, at least somewhat, but the feet should take up a lot of the frame. You don't want to go too wide as it'll be unflattering but anything above 50mm won't have that effect. dpreview has a lens search where you can plug in desired maximum magnification and filter by focal length. Modern lenses are better than ever at focusing closer and looking good so I'd go with a MILC body but you can get away with any major brand. Studio work is less demanding on bodies so truly just pick whatever you can afford that's not too old.","attachment":null,"posted":1715151349},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311608
>You don't want to go too wide as it'll be unflattering but anything above 50mm won't have that effect.
I'm confused by this. I'm completely new to photography.","attachment":null,"posted":1715151483},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311610,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311607
Because the contrast detect is fine for what OP wants to shoot, they are about 2/3rds of the price of those more expensive cameras, the video is going to be basically the same quality as far as a beginner is concerned and S1 is the camera I'd buy today if I wanted a hybrid camera. I love the body, I really wish it would have been successful and started a trend of DSLR style mirrorless bodies.

People like to pretend the autofocus is bad when it's not. Just because it doesn't keep with Sony/Canon doesn't mean it's bad. It's still better than most people will ever need. I have cameras with significantly worse auto focus systems and they are still more than good enough.

>>4311606
If you sound like a creep over the internet to me, women will definitely pick up on it. Develop a real interest in photography rather than using it as a way to get access to women, it will show and your plan will fall apart.","attachment":null,"posted":1715151657},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311611,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311610
>Develop a real interest in photography rather than using it as a way to get access to women
I guarantee you I would do quite a bit of messing around before I would actually start paying women to let me take photos of their feet.","attachment":null,"posted":1715151774},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311611
I suggest buying something cheap for like $200, get a standard zoom and practice until everything >>4311608 said makes sense, then you can start asking about what camera to get specifically for feet.

All $200 cameras are going to be the same as far as you'll be concerned in terms of quality, just go to MPB dot com and find one in your price range","attachment":null,"posted":1715152455},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311600
get gud at AI, by the time you could build up a business with a lot of clients, foot modeling will be an all AI business, and the kind of women who currently can make money selling feet pics will have to get a real job","attachment":null,"posted":1715172199},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311655,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311600
Keep your fetish to yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1715172509},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311680,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">first time visiting /p
>this thread right at the very top of the catty","attachment":null,"posted":1715180439},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311684,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311600
I know one guy that kinda focused on feet, and now does a ton of teen modeling type shooting. His website now looks like senior portrait collages that include feet. I don't know how any parent would feel comfortable.
Starting out, he was doing paid shoots via modelmayhem and just grew from there.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715182635021296.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-08 083603.png"},"posted":1715182635},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311721,"name":"hitler","msg":">>4311680
same bruh tf is this","attachment":null,"posted":1715191221},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311783,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311654
People who like feet want real women's feet. If it's a real woman, then you know there's a chance you could meet her one day and get a chance to sniff her feet and slobber all over them for hours.","attachment":null,"posted":1715209606},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4311791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311684
I NEED to know his website. I discovered this website that posts hot photos of teens around a year ago. It doesn't fit the definition of pornography, so it's perfectly legal. I imagine "subtle" images of feet would also not fit the definition of pornography, but so far, I haven't been able to find any websites featuring plenty of photos of teen feet.
https://www.free-photos.biz/
https://www.free-photos.biz/blog/
https://www.free-photos.biz/photographs/people/photos_of_girls","attachment":null,"posted":1715210175},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4312031,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311654
what would you rather watch;
1 a real video or real ariana grande getting fucked hard and enjoying it
2 fake AI video of cartoon ariana grande getting fucked

exactly... people want to see REAL WOMENS feet not some AI bullshit","attachment":null,"posted":1715267863},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4312118,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311684
>>4311791
https://www.stephanpartipilo.com/
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/3735515/497945","attachment":null,"posted":1715279135},{"board":"p","thread":4311600,"pid":4312648,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311600
imagine the cheesy scent of those feet","attachment":null,"posted":1715398169}]} {"title":"I just shot an event for the first time","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311078,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"And all my photos are fucking garbage and I'm realizing my edits look like total shit I think because I subconsciously try to replicate the iphone HDR look.

What the fuck do I do? How do I get better at shooting in imperfect settings?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715046237807596.jpg","filename":"1kinni[1].jpg"},"posted":1715046237},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311081,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Did you not hand a flash?
Post some of them man","attachment":null,"posted":1715046397},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311082,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Get a flash and learn to use it. Get a fast prime and learn to use it. Mix the two modes as necessary. Don’t fight bad light. Use good light, and if there isn’t any, make your own.


Don’t cry about it, learn from your mistakes and do better next time. Make new mistakes. Learn from those too. Good luck, have fun, don’t worry too much, we all die at the end of the day and nothing matters, so just have fun and enjoy the trip.","attachment":null,"posted":1715046490},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311081
I did but today was my literal first time shooting with a flash. I'm worried about posting any because i'll dox myself lol.

>>4311082
Unironically kind of helps thanks anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715047512},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311085
Direct flash tends to look bad, but with glamorous people it can look good in a high contrast Terry Richardson kinda way. Usually I’d recommend bouncing the flash off the ceiling, or using a diffusion cup type attachment if it’s a dark ceiling. Make sure to leave your shutter open long enough to balance the flash exposure with ambient light.

Since you shot an event, presumably a paid gig, with brand new equipment — doesn’t help you much now, but don’t do that. Practice with the kit BEFORE turning up and acting professional. Your test shots don’t need to be amazing, take pics of your dog or a figurine or literally anything, but put your shit through its paces before a high pressure situation so you’re not panicking when you have to figure it out on the fly.","attachment":null,"posted":1715051526},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311107,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311093
Terry Richardson look is a terrible choice for a new shooting a normie wedding. It’s highly unflattering lol, op gonna ruin some zoomette’s special day","attachment":null,"posted":1715054299},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311078
Hey Anon, first of all stop shitting yourself. You have workable photos I guarantee you.
I recently did my first two paid photoshoots for a total of 400 euro dollars for both.
I had shit lighting twice, and had the displeasure of working with slow lenses and micro four thirds cameras.
I ended up with quite a lot of ugly grain in many of the photos and had to push up the exposure in a few of them, only worsening the problem.
I found you can get rid of the worst of the grain without too much effort.
If you have access to lightroom, use the AI denoise feature, set it to a strength of 15%. This achieves a good balance between getting rid of 90% of the grain, while not making people look like plastic goop.
I don't know what event you were shooting, but the following advice for editing probably applies.
When I sent in my draft edits, I was told that they were too stylized and contrasty. I then re-edited them minimally, which meant pretty much just tuning the white balance to be slightly warmer, boosting the whites a bit, and adding only a smidge of contrast. They didn't end up looking all that different to the jpegs that came out of the camera.
When I sent these new edits in, they were accepted immediately. Less was more in this case.
As long as the photos were relatively free of grain, and didn't look washed out, it was golden. I imagine the same may apply in your situation.
Good luck Anon. I hope you deliver good work.
Also, for shooting events, a telephoto lens works well, headshots and closeups seem to be well received.","attachment":null,"posted":1715058800},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311138,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311085
It's insane if you're getting paid to shoot an event without knowing how to use flash. If not then you just went out and took bad pictures like everybody else, just try again brotha","attachment":null,"posted":1715063838},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311152,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4311078
Getting a photo is better than nothing. That moment of time is saved for your client to see at the least.","attachment":null,"posted":1715066764},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311107
Like I said, usually bad. OP didn't say it was a wedding. Direct flash could look good at like, a fashion party, or club, when you process the photos correctly. But yeah, pointing the flash is almost never the way. I like direct flash if you can get the flash off camera, like holding it in your left hand and shooting with your right. Get some interesting shadows in there.","attachment":null,"posted":1715099647},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311512,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311093
It wasn't paid but yeah you're right I should've been more practiced with my flash before going. Oh well, whoops.

>>4311107
>>4311344
Yeah it wasn't a wedding, it was a small local business group meeting...basically snacks/drinks/presentations/socializing. I did try to use bounce flash but idk it wasn't turning out how I hoped.

>>4311126
Thanks anon, I appreciate your advice. I did have workable photos. I ended up delivering 48 edited photos after a little less than 2 hours of shooting. Is that light on photos? It feels a little light to be honest but I would not have been happy to deliver many of the photos outside of what I sent. The lady literally just downloaded my wetransfer so I'm hoping I get some feedback, good or bad lol.

>>4311138
Kek yeah I didn't get paid, thanks though anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715128375},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311152

Zach, you gotta stop man. Go practice instead of giving highly unqualified advice in every thread.","attachment":null,"posted":1715128831},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311515,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4311513
Hey, those that can't do teach. That's what I heard about from film school. :P","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715129421902720.jpg","filename":"xoCJ6lF.jpg"},"posted":1715129421},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311517,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311515

The school that you barely scraped by with a D?","attachment":null,"posted":1715129852},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311526,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4311517
No I was talking about from a youtube filmmaking tutorial video.","attachment":null,"posted":1715132766},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311078
converting the photos to black and white is the meme answer desu","attachment":null,"posted":1715134634},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311532,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311529
I genuinely considered that but it was for a local business group so pretty corporate and I didn't want to send over photos that felt too ""poetic"", you know?","attachment":null,"posted":1715135612},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311534,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311532
>local business group so pretty corporate
They will accept the shittiest of pictures, you're unironically completely safe. Shit could be out of focus and they would still be cool with it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715136182},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311534
Yeah you right. I'm more disappointed in myself than anything, lol.","attachment":null,"posted":1715137174},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311549,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311537
That's fine too, you'll improve from your fuckups.
Just don't worry much about this one.","attachment":null,"posted":1715139518},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311980,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311512
48 is reasonable. I got about 38 very good shots on my first shoot (100 mediocre, 800 shite), and 44 (130 mediocre, 950 shite) on my second.
If it's going to be used on social media whoever you did the shots for isn't going to use every single one.","attachment":null,"posted":1715252093},{"board":"p","thread":4311078,"pid":4311996,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311078
shoot more

You're being too harsh on yourself, nobody gives a shit about your pics they either want to see themselfs or see the subject they care about","attachment":null,"posted":1715259986}]} {"title":"Fujifilm has the most advanced AF technology","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311170,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1715068395898276.webm

wsg/thread/5539653#p5540323

Now say fuji's af is bad again","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715072215711810.jpg","filename":"Touch your focus.jpg"},"posted":1715072215},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311170
it is so fucking slow lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715072348},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311177,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Oh it is with X-H2S latest firmware update which has released few days ago btw","attachment":null,"posted":1715072772},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311180,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311170
that is literally so bad. the cope from slugs is getting unreal at this point. You know it's okay to admit that you just like the experience? It doesn't have to be the best for you to enjoy it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715073249},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311199,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"what camera is this on?

wanted to buy a x100VI but not with this AF lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715077635},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311170
I can do the same thing on my xperia, it's just the object tracking bugging out because you covered up the thing it was trying to track","attachment":null,"posted":1715080120},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311208,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311171
Yeah, how is this impressive
>BOOM, HUMAN DETECTION (europoor accent)
>Takes like 3 seconds to focus
This has to be bait","attachment":null,"posted":1715082776},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311208
yeah","attachment":null,"posted":1715088097},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i have a fujifilm x-s20 with the latest update and no, it fucking sucks. only now they added af modes from photo to video and the tracking will lose the tracking point as soon as it leaves the scene and wont even properly focus on the tracking point in lighting where it works fine in photo mode. face recognition will focus on back of people's heads and will try to look for faces specifically in poor lighting.","attachment":null,"posted":1715099490},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311350,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311170
Is this a sarcasm thread

This is the same thing the nikon Z6 mk1 does, with the same speed and accuracy

I actually use a Z7II in DX mode for video and the autofocus is better than this","attachment":null,"posted":1715099983},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311363,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I really like my x100vi, but my A7III has a faster and more accurate focus.
Fooj is good but there are areas where it's nowhere near the best.","attachment":null,"posted":1715101220},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311367,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311363
I dont understand how fuji managed to put the same awful 2012 autofocus in the x100vi given a simple prime lens to move around when there are 1" zoomy point and shoots with dead silent, lightning fast autofocus that are also much, much smaller than the x100vi.","attachment":null,"posted":1715101588},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311367
just fuji things :')","attachment":null,"posted":1715101798},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311373,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311369
No please explain

Like I get that sometimes there is an excuse. The nikon 26mm f2.8 needed a noisy autofocus motor so they could make it a few mm shorter than sony's 35mm f2.8 and make marketing claims about size and close focusing sharpness. It's designed somewhat like a phone lens as well with exotic elements. But the fuji lens is nothing special, it's actually a normal prime buried in the body. There's definitely room for a quieter, faster AF motor and they could have mogged their competition here.","attachment":null,"posted":1715102467},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311170
But does it have cunnæ detection?","attachment":null,"posted":1715105184},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311400,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4311199
You'll be waiting until the X100X then.","attachment":null,"posted":1715105245},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311408,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311373
nikon could have made the 26 quiet too. they're just cash strapped from putting aside money to buy RED.","attachment":null,"posted":1715106882},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Pros like myself use AF-S, you eye detect cry babies. :)","attachment":null,"posted":1715107383},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311373
i was memeing on fuji, i agree with you, nothing to explain","attachment":null,"posted":1715107434},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311177
>$2200 camera
Meanwhile the zf has literal magic snoy tier AF

kek fuji is such a scam. lower than pentax/olympus tier - at least they dont die from 20 minutes of light rain lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715108943},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311511,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311170
Opening that link was shorter than the time it took for the camera to focus","attachment":null,"posted":1715127855},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311363
>there are areas where it's nowhere near the best
let's see
>sensor
>af
>lens
>weathersealing
>build quality
>battery life
>single card slot
>availability
>price","attachment":null,"posted":1715131461},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311522,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311521

>lens
There is something so satisfying about an all-metal build with a manual aperture ring. Why don't more manufacturers use manual apertures? The physical setting dials on the bodies too feel so nice to use.","attachment":null,"posted":1715131852},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"my XF10 can't even AF-C, it just hunts back and forth and doesn't lock focus","attachment":null,"posted":1715134948},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311544,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311522
Because it's been the ergonomic preference the majority for like, 40 years, to control aperture in a user-set increment using a dial on the grip.","attachment":null,"posted":1715138577},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311544
+ Adding one or two tiny plastic dials on camera is much easier and cheaper than adding aperture ring on lens","attachment":null,"posted":1715139024},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311555,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311522
Actually I could pass on the manual aperture ring, when I had a Fuji I just controlled it with the front dial. That being said having an iso and dedicated exposure comp dial was legitimately useful and should be on more cameras instead of just restricted to 'retro' cameras.","attachment":null,"posted":1715140426},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311564,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311546
There was a period where people had both and people actually wanted the aperture ring gone because it would accidentally get bumped and it would make the controls confusing to have two aperture controls

Lenses without the aperture ring came out. Reception as positive. People chose the scroll wheel.

>>4311555
Sony actually has this layout. Front is aperture, rear left is shutter, rear right is exposure compensation, rear bottom can be mapped to ISO.

It's really annoying and preferable to at least map ISO to a button instead, because there's so many dials that inevitably one is easy to bump.","attachment":null,"posted":1715141948},{"board":"p","thread":4311170,"pid":4311616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311564

The fuji dials have a push button lock to prevent bumping. Do Sonys have the same?","attachment":null,"posted":1715153311}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311444,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"If you're not buying a DSLR you're unironically paying more for inferior tech because you were dazzled by gimmicky bullshit you will never actually use

DSLR benefits:
>OVF has an infinite refresh rate and resolution
>Has an actual depth of field preview so you can tell exactly what will be in focus, most mirrorless cameras stop after ~f/5.6
>off sensor phase detect leading to superior image quality
>larger, deeper grips
>more buttons
>lenses are mechanical focus
>glass has focus distance markings making it possible to get your shot in focus without even looking through the ovf
>manual primes are extremely compact
>have a built-in mirrorless mode anyway allowing for the only two real benefits of mirrorless, those being focus peaking and focus punch-in
>batteries last 2x-5x longer
>often have built in flash
>simple and well organized menu systems
>reliable weather sealing is the norm
>companies aren't ripping you off with paid firmware updates for features they purposefully left out during development
>almost instant start up times


But I will admit they have downsides such as:
>metering is slightly worse
>harder to know what long exposures will look like

This is just another instance of consumers being tricked into buying inferior tech just like Plasma TVs and LCDs. Plasma tvs were superior in every single performance metric but people bought lcds because they were cheaper and we have only just now started to recover from that loss in performance with OLEDS although Plasmas are still superior in many ways that simply cannot be reproduced by oled screens. Why are people so easy to trick?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715111222050724.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-07 at 12-46-26 s6xj4JuXDkeFFFFVnP5r65-970-80.jpg.webp (WEBP Image 970 × 546 pixels).png"},"posted":1715111222},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311446,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311444
Nice quads, but I stopped reading after:

>OVF has an infinite refresh rate and resolution

Because that tells me literally everything I need to know about the rest of the steaming paragraph you took the time to write out.","attachment":null,"posted":1715111574},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311444
>OVF has an infinite refresh rate and resolution
Resolution is limited by the fineness of the grain on the focussing screen. An EVF can zoom in and show much more detail
>Has an actual depth of field preview so you can tell exactly what will be in focus, most mirrorless cameras stop after ~f/5.6
DSLR finders have a rough approximation of depth of field, if you remember to press the DOF preview button, can actually see anything at smaller apertures, and usually don't show depth of field shallower than like f/2.8
>off sensor phase detect leading to superior image quality
And less accurate AF
>larger, deeper grips
>more buttons
Depends
>lenses are mechanical focus
Also depends, but correct in a lot of cases when it comes to native lenses. However you can use all of those DSLR lenses on mirrorless if it's such a big deal to you
>manual primes are extremely compact
More so with mirrorless
>have a built-in mirrorless mode anyway allowing for the only two real benefits of mirrorless, those being focus peaking and focus punch-in
If you're cool with using a shitty low res slow refresh rate screen with no shielding from the sun then sure, DSLRs are fantastic in live view
>reliable weather sealing is the norm
Considering the vast majority of DSLRs released have had little to no weather sealing, incorrect
>companies aren't ripping you off with paid firmware updates for features they purposefully left out during development
Because they just don't have those features available
>almost instant start up times
Mirrorless is no different","attachment":null,"posted":1715111814},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311444
digital rangefinders or bust","attachment":null,"posted":1715111915},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311444
>OVF has an infinite refresh rate and resolution
EVF also has a focus magnifier and digital night vision.
>Has an actual depth of field preview so you can tell exactly what will be in focus, most mirrorless cameras stop after ~f/5.6
Nikon cameras still have this.
>off sensor phase detect leading to superior image quality
Interpolating 2mp out of 40 does not have an observable effect on image quality.
>larger, deeper grips
People with arthritis do need more grip surface because exerting more force is not an option for them. Did you know most people don't have arthritis?
>more buttons
Yeah, because I totally miss the WB button in this age of cheap storage and fast computers, where only a fool or an instant delivery journalist snapshitter still shoots jpeg, and for those people AWB has gotten absurdly good, more accurate than manual WB.
>lenses are mechanical focus
These still exist. The focus motor is in the lens instead of the camera so if it burns out you don't lose autofocus on every single lens. Screw drive lenses often broken, btw. There are also fully manual lenses for true reliability.
>glass has focus distance markings making it possible to get your shot in focus without even looking through the ovf
These have never been accurate. Especially not the infinity stop.
>manual primes are extremely compact
More compact on mirrorless.","attachment":null,"posted":1715112104},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311451
>batteries last 2x-5x longer
They actually don't! CIPA's tests are glorified screen runtime tests. Most DSLR users use the screen enough that it's negligible. Add on lens VR, or IBIS (if you're dumb enough to buy a pentax), and its even more even, sometimes worse for the DSLR.
>often have built in flash
Direct flash looks bad, built in flashes are too weak for bounce and drain the battery extremely quickly.
>simple and well organized menu systems
Haven't changed at all on canon/nikon - pentax DSLR menus are worse than sony mirrorless.
>reliable weather sealing is the norm
It's the norm NOW, but it wasn't always. Canon and nikon both made a lot of less-sealed/non-sealed lower end DSLRs - and canon has NEVER consistently weather sealed their lenses. Nor did Nikon! How sealed an F mount lens is a total crapshoot. It wasn't until mirrorless that pentax and olympus lost that advantage.
>companies aren't ripping you off with paid firmware updates for features they purposefully left out during development
Paid FW updates are for proprietary video codecs they have to pay just to include on the camera. Largely the fault of consoomers like YOU for demanding muh heckin applel prores.
>almost instant start up times
It's a crapshoot that's not in favor of any system

>Is a TV autist
Yeah figures, most unintelligent consoomers are.","attachment":null,"posted":1715112244},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311453,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"*Laughs in full gimmick*","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715112547719026.jpg","filename":"lmao.jpg"},"posted":1715112547},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311455,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"and here are some pictures taken with them because I'm not a complete gearfag

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>m8
uber based. I like your work man thanks for making another stupid gear thread a little less shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715121094},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311482,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311444
After being out of the game for a while (previously had a d200 and d3200) I was about to pull a trigger on the d850 until I found out the z7ii is pretty much the same but much smaller and lighter and it can use all the amazing Z lenses.


Size and weight are important to me because I want to take it everywhere and the 850 is a chonker. I wouldn’t lug that up a mountain trail if it came with a tugboat.","attachment":null,"posted":1715122408},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311542,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311444
>need to calibrate AF on each individual lens
dinosaur tech","attachment":null,"posted":1715137907},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311559,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311444
you know how fucking hard it is to manually focus vintage lenses with an OVF? Or anything at night? How about DOF preview? dont get that unless you want the OVF to go dark. No histogram either, sure there is a light meter but its no histogram. I could go on.","attachment":null,"posted":1715141274},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"SLRs are fun to use and I would shoot for a hobby with one but I wouldn't touch that shit for a wedding and anything without good live view = laying face down in the mud for macro","attachment":null,"posted":1715141723},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311571,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311444
Hey, it’s Tuesday night, and DSLRs are dead baby.","attachment":null,"posted":1715142302},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311576,"name":"Zapp","msg":">>4311482
>I wouldn’t lug that up a mountain trail if it came with a tugboat.
imagine how onions you must be to pretend .5 lbs makes a difference","attachment":null,"posted":1715143163},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311459
post more gas stations.","attachment":null,"posted":1715144182},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311583,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4311479
anytime
>>4311581
alrighty

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If you've tried adjusting the diopter and you still can't get it to focus you likely have an astigmatism, go see the eye doctor","attachment":null,"posted":1715189445},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311444
If you're buying a DSLR you're unironically buying outdated technology
/thread","attachment":null,"posted":1715191527},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311904,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">new d850s are $2200
Hold me back.
>from buying a second one","attachment":null,"posted":1715229459},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311904
based","attachment":null,"posted":1715238481},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311930,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4311726
What if I want an optical viewfinder?
>Mirrorless to me is suddenly as obsolete as the Leica 1c","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715239706676759.jpg","filename":"leica-ic-camera-body-screw-mount-original-vintage-condition-full-working.jpg"},"posted":1715239706},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311971,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311456
Great pic","attachment":null,"posted":1715250350},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4311991,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311930
>What if I want an optical viewfinder?
Go and use outdated technology. I didn't say it's bad, it's a fact.","attachment":null,"posted":1715257289},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4312274,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311928
It's a waste but my current one is gray market because I was an idiot and those cunts at MPB kept grey market ones in stock....so getting it fixed would be third party repairs only when/if the shutter breaks.
But at the same time that's money I could spend towards a z8. Bruhs.","attachment":null,"posted":1715303300},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4312285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311444
>If you're not buying a DSLR you're unironically paying more for inferior tech because you were dazzled by gimmicky bullshit you will never actually use
This is true and also applies to FF. APS-C DSLRs like the D500 are all anyone needs.","attachment":null,"posted":1715306350},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4312305,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4311991
The absence of an optical finder is the outdated tech tho","attachment":null,"posted":1715313124},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4312314,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312285
I know were this is going

I live in a free aka capitalist country therefore i can buy any dumb luxury i want, i can put thought into the things that matter and enjoy my taking and looking at photographs however i want

but please keep coping over what ultimately amounts to your own budgetary decisions though it's going to get entertaining when you inevitably invent a pseudo-intellectual artistic "ideology" to justify how you spent your money and reconcile it with your need to feel superior to others. surely, your purchases must have been the best ones, because you're the best. everyone else is stupid, wasteful, consoomer, goy, jew, cuck, something something, or maybe poor, dumb, nigger, idk - go on, say a line like that. and prolong the argument. you know you need that attention. such is the life of a narcissist.

or dont waste your time and kys instead typical gearfag

>inb4 narcissi thinks he has a comeback","attachment":null,"posted":1715315113},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4312329,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312314
I'm not reading all that cope. You have and will never take a photo that couldn't look good or even better on an APS-C DSLR.","attachment":null,"posted":1715323379},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4312333,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312305
What the point of discussion? Did I say that SLR systems are bad? No. Did I say that DSLR cameras are past? Yes, this is the objective reality. 4 years since the last two DSLRs presentation, while dozens of new MILCs have been shown in the same period of time.","attachment":null,"posted":1715326680},{"board":"p","thread":4311444,"pid":4312344,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4312333
what was the point in you opening your mouth if you didn't want a reply? :A)","attachment":null,"posted":1715333009}]} {"title":"just bought this badboy for 320usd","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4311734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"what am i in for /p/

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Take photo and show us.","attachment":null,"posted":1715194217},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4311764,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The kit lens is crap. Try to get the best lens you can afford. You will see the difference.","attachment":null,"posted":1715200829},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4311772,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">APS-C","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715206311112854.jpg","filename":"puke.jpg"},"posted":1715206311},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4311777,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4311734
Diversity, equity and inclusion.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715208745362440.jpg","filename":"1596017990183.jpg"},"posted":1715208745},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4311884,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311777
based Sony","attachment":null,"posted":1715224302},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4311889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311777
>lol sony callin matthew on his shit
OPie youre in for walking around carrying a block of uncomfortable controls positioned stupidly and endlessly fucking around in the badly designed menu mess just to take the next goddamn picture until you get to tye pount where its just not worth it anymore, just like we all did eventually. Sony has yet to learn that engineers make poor designers.","attachment":null,"posted":1715225131},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4311903,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311734

either nos or you were scammed real bad","attachment":null,"posted":1715229199},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4311995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311903
i needed one fast thats why","attachment":null,"posted":1715259230},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4312913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311734
you paid 320USD for that? I see them come up for like 150 all the time and I still wouldnt pay that much","attachment":null,"posted":1715482171},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4312986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312913
i think it really depends on where you live and how used they are i have not seen any below 275 and thoose are really used","attachment":null,"posted":1715506276},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4313126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312986
would have just gotten an nx500 desu, unless you plan on doing a lot of video it's just objectively better","attachment":null,"posted":1715551398},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4314359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"honestly a good start body wise, the kit lens isnt great with its shit motors that get stuck every now and then though. get some new glass when you can.","attachment":null,"posted":1715858763},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4314361,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311764
it's fun when paired with the auto lens cap","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715860523602920.webm","filename":".webm"},"posted":1715860523},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4314363,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311734

If you can find the sigma 30mm 2.8 at around 100$ go for it.
Nice lens to learn many things and expecially to demystify shallow depth of field. At some point you will find yourself stepping it downs and then you will reach enlightening.
Same for the crappy sony 55-210mm. It's relativelly bad, but it have stabilization so you can practice many things ranging from portrait, birding and tele landscape in daylight.

Pic related is the sony tele

The 6400 is a nice improvement if you wanna

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The 6400 is a nice improvement if you wanna use a small camera and keep working on aps-c but it's not a tremendous improvement. 6600 and 6700 are definitely better, but are also more expensive, bigger and heavier, so unless you really prefer smaller lenses or apc-c for reasons, going FF could be better.
But to learn the 6000 is perfect. I sugest you to take your time before thinking to new cameras unless you somehow win the lottery. Don't let other put you down on the topic.","attachment":null,"posted":1715861978},{"board":"p","thread":4311734,"pid":4314366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311734
>what am i in for
dust collecting","attachment":null,"posted":1715862085}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311717,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">creamy
>dreamy
>soft
>fallout
>BOKEH

Mfw. What are some other photography memes that drive you crazy? I get that good bokeh is about the only thing that separates us from phone pics but come on either obsession already.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715190628545787.png","filename":"IMG_2047.png"},"posted":1715190628},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311725,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Muh digital noise
>ahhhh ahhhhh it burns
>I need to never raise the iso I need to us ai!
fuck off already","attachment":null,"posted":1715191368},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">muh compression
people are talking about compression as a specific quality/feature of a particular lens model rather than recognizing the optical qualities behind it. Some retard on Instagram tried to tell me that the compression on their Sony lens was better than that of a Nikon lens at the same focal length.
on that topic, Sony as a whole has become a rampant cult meme.","attachment":null,"posted":1715192242},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311730,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311728
>calls another person a retard
>uses plural "their" instead of his/her
pot calling the kettle black
he was just letting you know his Sony lens has better image quality overall than the equivalent Nikon, who cares if he used the wrong word.","attachment":null,"posted":1715192452},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311756,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">colour science
Especially shitting on sony because it apparently does something to skin tones, a green tint iirc. Can't say I've noticed anything horrendous even on sooc jpegs, and it's not like colours can't be adjusted","attachment":null,"posted":1715198506},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311780,"name":"cANON","msg":">This camera's a REAL workhorse","attachment":null,"posted":1715209216},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311730
>implies another anon is a retard
>is unaware of basic usage
>https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/grammar/pronouns/gendered_pronouns_and_singular_they.html
faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715214460},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311815,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311730
>just ESL things","attachment":null,"posted":1715214695},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311817,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4311813
>calls someone a faggot
>his own link admits it's political and copes about its gramatical incorrectness by saying language is genderfluid","attachment":null,"posted":1715214833},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311831,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">taking it to the next level
>game changer
>clients
>workflow
>presets

>>4311780
To this day I have no clear idea of what this phrase is supposed to imply. It just feels like something they say to start the paragraph about the things they like about the camera rather than a phrase with any specific meaning.","attachment":null,"posted":1715215929},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311857,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4311831
>I have no clear idea of what this phrase is supposed to imply
It means that they have utilized the camera or lens in some way (or imagined that they (could) have) instead of it entirely being an act of discretionary consumption.","attachment":null,"posted":1715221212},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311857
>instead of it entirely being an act of discretionary consumption
Ahhh.. so it's a cope. They want to imply that the gear has made them money, but since they haven't actually made any money with it, they just say it's done a lot of work for them, making it a 'workhorse'. They are so sigma-pilled and hussle-maxxing that they have given themselves a mental illness where everything is only justifiable if it is profitable or building to an ROI","attachment":null,"posted":1715238913},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311933,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">watch gear review
>they go on about how good or bad a lens is and I can't tell any difference","attachment":null,"posted":1715241141},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311936,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311933
Usually they are referring to things that don't matter like chromatic aberration, corner softness, and distortion. The fact of the matter is that with a few exceptions almost all lenses made since the 60s have been more than good enough for everything except extremely technical photography.

But as a reviewer you can't say everything is good because then it it's not really a review. So they create artificial product separation where the differences are technically real, but actually meaningless with regard to the photo output. Same goes for autofocus.","attachment":null,"posted":1715241724},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311939,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311831
'game changer' makes me seethe every time. youtubers can't stop saying this dumb phrase when it clashes hideously with every other piece of their diction. it sounds like something an out of touch boomer thinks culturally relevant young scammers and grifters say. i one time heard it in real life and got whiplash","attachment":null,"posted":1715242311},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4311993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311817
faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1715258472},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4312009,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311813
see
>>4311817

"It" is singular
"They" is plural
There are two sexes (gender is made up)

>>4311815
American education on full display
Poor little zoomers cannot even understand basic grammmatic concepts","attachment":null,"posted":1715264661},{"board":"p","thread":4311717,"pid":4312010,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4312009
>There are two sexes (gender is made up)
Truth","attachment":null,"posted":1715264727}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4311872,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I wanna become one of those "street portrait" guys who makes the videos I see all over instagram reels. Only issue is that I want to start a new account to do this, and don't have any street portraits to post to start, nor do I have any followers. How do I get started when people will inevitably ask to see my instagram when I say "hey I take photos of strangers for instagram, could I take some pictures of you?" and they say "sure, what's your ig name?"

buying followers is not an option since that basically gets your account shadowbanned.

Pic is not my image, nor is it even a very good one but it came up when I googled "street portaiture"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715222960971979.jpg","filename":"images[1].jpg"},"posted":1715222960},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4311880,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872
I was about to advise you to start with your friends but i remembered we're on 4chan","attachment":null,"posted":1715223758},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4311883,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872
That sounds like a stupid waste of time.","attachment":null,"posted":1715224239},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4311887,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872
Just be honest at first. Get around 50 or 60 good portraits and stsrt posting one every day or two. Dress nicely, be flattering, but not creepy. Consider having a card with your info or something to give them so they can see their portrait. Everyone starts somewhere...","attachment":null,"posted":1715224863},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4311890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872

First thing, can you take portraits in general?","attachment":null,"posted":1715225494},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4311894,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872
hire models. That's what the top 1% do anyway","attachment":null,"posted":1715226418},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4311898,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872
that's not an issue. i do street portraits all the time and i've never shown ig first. if anyone presses you, you can be upfront and say you're just starting out. ir you can bring up one of the big pages as an example of what you're going for. that should be good enough for most

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They don't ask they just take photos of everyone in the street as they pass by
Just get a telephoto lens that way you always have nice subject/background separation and can stay far away from the people whose souls you steal","attachment":null,"posted":1715231190},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4311927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872
Most of those reels are obviously fake all you have to do is think about it for a couple minutes. How often do you see nicely dressed women are done up and out walking alone? Secondly when women see a stranger taking photos of them they don't get smiley and giggly and start blushing. The women are probably hired models or his friends.","attachment":null,"posted":1715238382},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4311937,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311927
This.","attachment":null,"posted":1715241922},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872
As a 29 year old who owns multiple businesses across 5 different industries (and as someone who likes to waste free time shitposting and doing photography) I will stop you right here to tell you that photography is, first and foremost, an art form - and turning something that is supposed to be art, in this case photography, into a simple trade job that will earn you money, comes with a myriad of nonsensical garbage you will additionally have to improve on, obtain and/or learn, in addition to having to deal with the main problem of learning, gaining experience and improving on your photography. Turning art into a trade business and chasing money with it, always means you will not be able to fully focus on both sides of things and one will always have to suffer. You just don't have the mental capacity or time to do so (provided you are a human being and do waste 6-9 hours of your day on sleep), you will have to sacrifice the art side of things in order to chase money.

You will eventually find out that doing street photography as your primary (or secondary, or even tertiary) source of income is not worth the time or effort invested and will (only if you're lucky! - keep in mind!) barely bring in enough money to push you through life from month to month, which is a sad reality for close to 100% of street photographers who jump into this mess, thinking they will make a living off it, before knowing or being aware of everything that goes on behind the curtain... Anyhow, to keep it brief, street photography focuses too much on art side of things - and sadly, visual arts do not sell nowadays!

That's where fields like weddings, baptisms, pets, architecture/real estate, commercial, journalism and other similar photography fields come in... These and similar fields focus way more on profiteering, marketing and business side of things and if you want to lead an, not fancy but an above average lifestyle, then that's what you want to be doing - not street photography.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715267130748073.jpg","filename":"2024-05-09 170240.jpg"},"posted":1715267130},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312027,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312018
faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1715267703},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312018
As a 47yo with 3 failed businesses I will say you should listen to this guy.","attachment":null,"posted":1715267788},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312027
It's just my advice. Take it or leave it. Nobody's forcing you to do anything.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715268039344550.jpg","filename":"2024-05-09 171900.jpg"},"posted":1715268039},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312032
>>4312018
All these businesses and bmws and still cant get a camera that can focus? Not exactly making me trust your advice AT ALL lol...

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if you want people to take your photo advice, you should post a good photo
my uncle works at nintendo just puts people on the defensive","attachment":null,"posted":1715273002},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312032
>>4312018

Did you take these pictures with a flip phone from 2009?","attachment":null,"posted":1715273404},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312079,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312050
It's a snapshot from my helmets intercom camera. Here's another piece of advice; Learn how to recognize and when to follow good advice. Again, nobody's forcing you, your life, your choice. When someone like me gives you business advice, you listen. Not being snobbish, condescending or patronizing here, just genuinely want to help. I try to give best and most honest advice I possibly can on any board I visit here (that is, when I'm not entertaining myself shitposting.)","attachment":null,"posted":1715275400},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312082,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872
If you plan to work with photography, focus on improving your very basic skills and get a decent gear over time. Then slowly shoot free stuff until you build a portfolio with your best pics.
Finally, you can do that lame influencer shit, just for the likes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715275745},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312157,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872
>guys who makes the videos I see all over instagram reels
Go back","attachment":null,"posted":1715285143},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311872
There is an inherent problem in saying "I want to be a X guy" instead of "I want to do X".
I didn't read the rest of your post. Get yourself sorted out.","attachment":null,"posted":1715288271},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312272,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312082
But why does it seem like so many of these “influencers” didn’t go through that process and kind of just found success? Is it luck? (((Connections)))? Sucking dicks? How do?","attachment":null,"posted":1715303241},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312079
Faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1715303472},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312278,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312272

Because they make it SEEM that way so they can form a network of parasocial retards who will idolize them for their perceived effortless skills.","attachment":null,"posted":1715303608},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312279,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311880
Yeah I unironically don't have a ton of friends kek

>>4311887
Fair advice, thanks anon


>>4311890
Kind of? I could use the practice but I think I'm ""ok"" at portraiture and I like it

>>4311894
fair enough. I guess I could.

>>4311898
Thanks anon. Do you mostly shoot mexicans? Maybe they don't understand what you're saying so they just go along with it

>>4311909
I already do street photography and I think that's where I get my best (or at the very least my favourite) shots, but I wanna strap a go pro on and speak to people and take their portraits.

>>4311927
I see attractive and/or interesing looking people out and about all the god damn time. I was at a train station last week and there was a goth chick there smoking a cigarette and she had this star thing over one of her eyes and I think she would've made a really cool portrait, she just had a lot of character but I felt weird going up and asking to take her photo without having evidence that I was a ""real"" photographer. Like I feel like people are going to say no to me because they think I'm gonna put their images up in my goon cave or something, lol.

>>4312018
I'm primarily doing it for attention & likes, not necessarily profit. That being said I am also very interested in doing real estate photography and am going to shoot some family members houses in the near future to build my RE portfolio before reaching out to agents. I don't expect street photography to be a payday for me, it's more of a creative fulfillment thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715303822},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312280,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312082
I have half decent equipment imo, ff mirrorless camera with a 50mm 1.8 & 24-105 4-7. 85mm is probably gonna be my next lens purchase.","attachment":null,"posted":1715303935},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312279

>I think I'm ""ok"" at portraiture and I like it

post

>Like I feel like people are going to say no to me because they think I'm gonna put their images up in my goon cave or something

If that's how you carry yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1715304494},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312282
I'd feel bad posting a portrait of someone on 4chan without asking. I don't carry myself that way but idk I guess I'm very self conscious. It's part of why I wanna start doing street portraiture, getting better at speaking to people.","attachment":null,"posted":1715308974},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312272
If you see a lot of likes on a "reel" like that, with no much content besides someone taking portraits of random people on the streets, it means they're constantly reaching more people through the algorithm and probably many are bots.
Anyways, do whatever you feel like doing. You might create some interesting content for future clients, who knows.","attachment":null,"posted":1715312433},{"board":"p","thread":4311872,"pid":4312317,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312279
>Do you mostly shoot mexicans?
no that was the only person i've interacted with whom i couldn't talk to

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>How do I get started
1.kidnap
2.protrait
3.rape
4.post
5.repeat
>people will inevitably ask to see my instagram
hahaha no worries, they never will","attachment":null,"posted":1715352789}]} {"title":"budget photography","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hello, I want to start taking pictures but I only have +-200$.
Interested mostly in photography, but it would be nice if it could still shoot video not bad as an add-on

I've seen some videos on YouTube where the GH2 (hacked) showed pretty good quality, is it worth getting it or are there any better choices? What would you recommend for a beginner?

Thanks in advance

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any camera you can buy at this price point will be essentially worthless, worse than a phone, without a shitload of light and manual focus lenses, especially for filming, which would probably require an external microphone and tripod or stabilizer to even do as well as a phone.

just make sure its an android phone, apple shit forces too much post processing, and the quality is 99% the same as micro four thirds

you need to spend closer to $1k to have a decent camera even buying older gen shit. a gh5 does not have usable autofocus for video (you must shoot manual focus) for example and once you buy a lens that isnt blurry and doesnt make whirring and creaking noises, shipping and tax will make your final expense close to $1k.

honestly dude here's your guide to hybrid shooting for poorfags circa 2024
step 1: work more hours, put the money aside. work now = reward later. didnt your parents teach you that?
step 2: buy a sony a7iii and a tamron 28-75 f2.8 for working and a samyang 35mm f2.8 for traveling light. you will spend about $1250 said and done.
step 3: enjoy your life and never look at camera gear again","attachment":null,"posted":1715366211},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312534,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312515
This is true

I’ll take phone footage over a high iso focus hunting mess. Sorry dated camera fags. For still you can get away with more but only if its just a hobby and you’re never expected to take a good picture by someone else. If you are you actually do need a decent camera without “but this but that skill issue photography is the art of not pressing the button its a snapshit tldr no i cant take the photo” (knowing an iphone btfos ur m43 at isos above 400)","attachment":null,"posted":1715370426},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312541,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312540
Bye! See you when you turn 18!","attachment":null,"posted":1715372637},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312549,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312540
Get a real job kiddo

Work first then reward. In the meantime the best camera you can afford is the smartphone your parents gave you after buying a stolen one off a gypsy","attachment":null,"posted":1715373586},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312513
Literally any camera from the past 10 years","attachment":null,"posted":1715373946},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312553,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312549
You're such a nice person, Anon. Tell me, how often did your parents beat you as a kid?","attachment":null,"posted":1715375396},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312554,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"These idiots are trying to bait you into spending a bunch of money you don't have. This is how commodified hobbies work, especially photography. They live in a world of stats and specs. It's completely divorced from taking photos. If you're interested in actually taking photos rather than endlessly purchasing camera equipment, then I recommend getting a camera you can afford. Having a camera is better than not having a camera, if you want to use a camera. A cellphone is not a camera - there's no tactility, there's no interchangeable lenses, there's no consideration for the mechanics of photography.

Perhaps in snapshit logic, the tool makes the man, so you need the best tool you can because it's the only way to increase the quality of your poor photos. You need 40MP photos of city buses and tree branches, which are objectively better than 16MP photos of city buses and tree branches. "Better" means you are a "better" photographer. The megapixels transmute money into the appearance of personal achievement. Pointing your Samsung in the general direction of a city bus and hitting the big white circle is "better" than any "poor person" camera, because of megapixels. Ignore that you didn't engage in any photography.

M43 is fine. There are some really cheap lenses. Like the Olympus 40-150mm F4.0-5.6 and various primes which can all be had for <$100. Quality be damned, you need low barrier to entry and access to variety once you figure out what you are trying to do. Because it's not "just" $1250, unless you are going to rawdog it with 1 battery, no tripod, no filters, no flashes and lighting, no straps, no bags, etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1715375713},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312560,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312554
Photography is about the result

Phones and m43 have the same sooc result unless you overspend on giant birdwatching lenses (that are better and the same price on ff) and editing latitude isnt far off either

Just use a decent phone if you can not afford a decent camera. All these point and shoots are discontinued because they are genuinely worse than phones.","attachment":null,"posted":1715379114},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312554
>1 battery, no tripod, no filters, no flashes and lighting, no straps, no bags, etc.
this is fine. you dont need any of that.

flash is only worthwhile if you have at least 3 strobes rated at least 200w each AND a proper studio or the ability to book exclusive access to locations otherwise it looks like gross mid 2000s photography and dadographer snapshits","attachment":null,"posted":1715379282},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312560
m43 is bigger than one inch though and phone photos are all processed to shit and look like ass","attachment":null,"posted":1715379435},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312564,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312560
Phones cannot change lenses, in practice your focal length is limited to just a few points, you cannot play with dof, and macro looks like shit. You cannot attach a powerful flash or a flash transmitter. No phone has a mft sensor or a decent selection of lenses. I'd even argue that ergonomics affect the end product. OP does need a real camera. It can even be an old crop DSLR and kit lens.","attachment":null,"posted":1715379439},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312562
t. filtered by flash and never did strobist 101. It's really not that hard or expensive to get a natural look. Hell just using a bounce flash for an indoor shot looks perfectly natural.","attachment":null,"posted":1715379573},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312566,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312563
Oh so now muh pixel peeper quality matters when the line isnt drawn at the junk you own

>>4312564
None of this shit matters. People richer and more famous than you only needed leica+28mm at f/11 to make a career. That is not a glowing review of leicas. They are shitty cameras.

A phone is enough, or not even m43 is enough. Pick one without being a birdwatcher tainted by budgets and skinny arm concerns.","attachment":null,"posted":1715379625},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312568,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312565
Flash looks bad unless its a studio or a booked location with 3-5 strobes, sorry. Most flash photography is just cope for not being able to schedule sunset/sunrise.","attachment":null,"posted":1715379708},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312513
My budget camera in college 8 years ago was a hacked GH2 with the 12-32mm f3.5-5.6 pancake lens. Great camera honestly, even by toady's standards.
Eventually upgraded to the GH5, but still have and use that 12-32mm frequently. Its an extremely sharp lens for what it is. And it fits great in my pocket for travel/street photography.","attachment":null,"posted":1715380568},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312566
nigger I can tell it's processed to shit without zooming in. Trees look awful. You also can't use any dof on phone pics. Even f8 makes better pictures because you can remove viewer focus from the background","attachment":null,"posted":1715380610},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312580
iPhone exclusive problems

Buy an android phone (also bokeh is a crutch)","attachment":null,"posted":1715381357},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312587,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312586
I have a pixel. All of them are processed garbage
>(also bokeh is a crutch)
Post a photo","attachment":null,"posted":1715381640},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312554
If you are broke, you can't afford weights so can't work out effectively. If you are broke, you can't afford the paints required to put on a canvas. Specs and stats are required to effectively do a hobby that is artistic or dealing with any facet of life that takes energy. A cellphone is a camera in what it does simply and simple photography lessons can teach someone how to make the most of a lower iphone image in editing or maximizing the correct use of the lens, no matter how mid. It's still not effective though, same as what you suggest unless you want to start maximizing the strength of the dollar and what a person can finesse into life with energy. I don't think many people needs 40 mp+, but someone that can't afford 1k for this hobby, which is more pricey upfront compared to other entrances, does not have the right mindset. Obsessive hoarding is another problem, but this is a community which can be best summed up as "buy once and cry once."","attachment":null,"posted":1715382634},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'll probably get shat on for this, but if I got to start over I would probably have gone straight for an early gen full frame like the eos 2D, they go for very cheap sometimes, and get an m42 adapter and a bunch of dirt cheap manual focus lenses. Full frame specifically for that reason, because a crop sensor magnifies their flaws. That way I could have played with a lot of different focal lengths right from the start. It's probably hard mode, but would have been a ton of fun.","attachment":null,"posted":1715391666},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312632,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4312631
Based
Be sure to get the appropriate focusing screen.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715391959247343.png","filename":"eBay_Canon_1Ds_Purchase_2018.png"},"posted":1715391959},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312513
I would get a Canon EOS 7D and a Tamron 17-50mm 2.8. You should be able to get both for around that much from MPB or eBay, and it's good starter gear that you can add to later instead of replacing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715393483},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312639,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312632
I know /p/, being the effeminate closeted basedboy transsexuals that they are, don’t like the 1d body style, but I’ve yet to hold another camera that feels “right” the way the 1ds do. Kino camera. Ave a 1, 1d, and 1ds mii, all fun to use.","attachment":null,"posted":1715395078},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312645,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4312639
Put an E-1 hand strap and a RRS L bracket on one and it's perfect.","attachment":null,"posted":1715397174},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312649,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312534
>knowing an iphone btfos ur m43 at isos above 400
dumb nigger hands typed this post
I too love when the AI denoiser in my luxurious phone rapes every single pixel of every picture i take, because the moment there is not enough light the sensor just shits out noisy pictures (which would be better off without the denoiser)","attachment":null,"posted":1715398406},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312594
>you can’t afford weights
>therefore you should be a lazy pos
Or you can do calisthenics you stupid fuck. I hate analogues so much its unreal.","attachment":null,"posted":1715409084},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312678
*analogies, my apologues","attachment":null,"posted":1715409159},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"my dad gave me his broken nikon d90 with a 50mm f/1.4 and that setup has given me amazing photos that you cant get with a phone or most cheaper zoom lenses. shooting with manual primes teaches you a lot about exposition and composition since you are working around its limitations. i recommend getting a used dslr and a bright 35mm prime because gearfags are getting rid of their dslrs and manual primes in 35 or 50mm tend to be very cheap. if you end up caring enough, you might upgrade to a mirrorless like i have done. dont be persuaded into spending lots of money for something you probably wont utilize to its fullest, if you dont end up enjoying the hobby, it wont be a huge loss","attachment":null,"posted":1715414800},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312513
Just learn good composition techniques and use literally any phone made within the past 5 years.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715461235911361.jpg","filename":"1715274098741698.jpg"},"posted":1715461235},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312848,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312842
>m43 already looks like mushy steaming dogshit
>advocates for using an even smaller sensor
I've never seen a phone photo that didn't look awful.","attachment":null,"posted":1715462234},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312842
Everyone jerks off over computational AI shit on phones and no one mentions how unbelievably superior the actual shooting experience with a proper camera is. Like holy shit just having dedicated buttons and dials beats the pants off dealing with a blown out slippery touch screen with half the settings hidden. All these comparisons do is encourage hours wanking over computer generated leaves of grass while pixel peeping instead of taking damn photos.

>>4312513
Any old budget or even medium level DSLR and a cheap kit zoom or prime (fixed) lens. Millions of people start with that and have fun and from there figure out if they actually like photography and what to invest into. An old like-new 7D and EF 50mm or EFS 24mm is like $300.","attachment":null,"posted":1715471024},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312892,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4312842
idk that iphoney looks mighty complex with all its features while a camera is pretty simple and straight forward

you kinda walked right into that one :A)","attachment":null,"posted":1715472023},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312894,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Get the canon 5d and a nifty fifty.","attachment":null,"posted":1715472164},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312902,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312842
>"Just use a phone"
Dude give it up.
You're comparing a golf cart to a tank.","attachment":null,"posted":1715477163},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312909,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312842
Idiots communicate with political cartoons and memes and geniuses communicate with things from peer reviewed research papers to entire books, so this doesnt check out

>An idiot admires complexity
>"Thomas and Jane met for lunch last Tuesday"
>A genius admires simplicity
>"t took dat bitch 2 da bar awready"","attachment":null,"posted":1715480407},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312842
judging by the replies your image was both based and thebestcameraistheoneyouhaveonyou-pilled

*Edited: I just checked and it in fact was","attachment":null,"posted":1715482095},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312944,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312513
Just use your phone","attachment":null,"posted":1715496914},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4312969,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312944
buy a real camera","attachment":null,"posted":1715500091},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4313323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312969
its in the phone","attachment":null,"posted":1715615252},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4313500,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313323
there is no phone with a real camera","attachment":null,"posted":1715655847},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4313502,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312912
Judging by the replies he was wrong and got btfo hard.","attachment":null,"posted":1715655964},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4313505,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313500

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or what about real camera with phone? (even has built-in selfie camera)

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Kinda cool
>>4313506
That means I always have to carry my camera","attachment":null,"posted":1715664757},{"board":"p","thread":4312513,"pid":4313596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312554
>commodified hobbies
I think I've seen that in a Youtube video essay","attachment":null,"posted":1715676691}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've bought an Epson L8180. How do I find the real DPI of the printer? The data sheet states "5760x1440dpi" but surely that can't be right.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715334842805145.jpg","filename":"L8180-2.jpg"},"posted":1715334842},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312355
Take macro photo of a print.","attachment":null,"posted":1715336374},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312357
What will that accomplish if I don't print some specific test chart?","attachment":null,"posted":1715337373},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312375,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't know for sure but just making some assumptions. First off I'm assuming the DPI is different in each direction due to the method used i.e. in one axis it's moving the print head, in the other it's moving the paper. Only the lowest resolution is what really matters so that's 1440 DPI. Because there's 3 colours if we divide that by 3 we get 480 coloured pixels per inch which seems like a reasonable number.","attachment":null,"posted":1715341643},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312355
All EPSON printers operate at 1440 DPI.
This is 5760 dots for the CMYK, and 1440 steps vertically per inch with the stepper motors.

Some models do 2880 but that's just finer stepper motors, the 5760 is usually the same and this is divided by the colors (CMYK) so it's 5760/4=1440, you can at most do 1440 DPI in pure black. This is what comes out of the nozzles. 1440 DPI per color.","attachment":null,"posted":1715341989},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312377
2/2
To add to this, this literally means that yes if you have a vector image or logo you need to be aware.
Also if you have images that exist at 300 PPI, you will need to interpolate them to fit 1440 DPI printing or let the printer handle that scaling.

If you're looking for 1:1 input-output with a 300 DPI file you need to use HP/Canon/Brother who use 1200 DPI for their nozzles.
EPSON is essentially fucking retarded and "special" here, with a hardware DPI value literally nobody has content designed for. This means if you're trying to print test targets and do macro shots, you will see nothing but problems.
Paper bleed blurs prints a little and masks the issue but the fact is the image is already blurred before the print even begins when trying to print a 1800x1200 image for a 6x4 print on an EPSON because it's incapable of directly translating that to ink droplets without INTERPOLATING.","attachment":null,"posted":1715342282},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312381,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312378
So far I've tried some test prints on the 5"x7" Ultra Glossy Photo Paper and wasn't really happy with the result. Perhaps because I was sending the wrong resolution to the printer letting it do the interpolation instead of me.
So when you say 1440 DPI that means for a 5"x7" photo I need to send a 7200x10080px image? Correct?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715342922945215.jpg","filename":"new-c13s041944-ultra-glossy-photo-paper-13x18cm-50-sheets.jpg"},"posted":1715342922},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312385,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312381
Yes, exactly.
When you send a 1500x2100 pixel image (300PPI 5x7) to a printer it will simply upscale it (by itself) to function at its actual hardware res. If you have more real pixels to feed it, do so. If not, consider just upscaling with nearest neighbor to match the machine's res to prevent it making mistakes or upsampling it in a way you don't like.

On most brands 300 DPI files can be losslessly upsampled with nearest neighbor pixel doubling/quadrupling but if you have 300 DPI files those will always be somewhat lossy when printed on an EPSON.
EPSONs are technically higher res but since they exist outside of the traditional values it's kind of not an ideal situation.

Not all droplets will be pixel detail, paper bleed and droplet spread exist but feeding appropriate resolution files to prevent digital resampling in printer firmware can still be beneficial.
For ultra quality just know there's a reason why people do paperwork with laser printers, they're sharper, and can do like 2400+ DPI for very crisp lettering. Inkjets are always not as sharp but they have smooth color gradations and the ability to produce nice looking photo prints. Not suitable for view under a microscope, but good in person.","attachment":null,"posted":1715344393},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312385
thanks anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715349802},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">See anything related about Printing
>See everything is gravitating to 300 dpi or ppi
Why 300 is the golden number in DPI? Why not 100 or 500 or 1000?","attachment":null,"posted":1715353398},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312486,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312385
>just know there's a reason why people do paperwork with laser printers
SPEED","attachment":null,"posted":1715359886},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312510,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312443
>Why 300 is the golden number in DPI
it is twice as much as 150, which in turn is the nice rounded number which is twice as much as 72, which is what resolution dot matrix printers had.","attachment":null,"posted":1715364961},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312544,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312355
>The data sheet states "5760x1440dpi" but surely that can't be right.
The printer is capable of laying down dots at that resolution. That's how it's able to reproduce so many tones and colors with its ink set. Extremely fine halftoning.

However, you may not actually be able to feed that resolution to the printer and expect to see it on paper. Obviously not with shades of gray and colors since you need multiple dots to simulate the tones and colors. Each pixel you feed the printer breaks down into a set of dots. But even with pure black and white line art, the printer driver probably scales input to 720x720 or 1440x1440 before figuring out the halftone.

Years ago, when I got my 3880, I remember testing it to try and figure out what resolution could actually be sent to the printer using B&W line art. I seem to remember seeing improvement all the way to 1440 ppi. So on pure B&W, which means one ink, the printer was able to accept/render 1440 ppi. This requires special paper, i.e. your typical office paper has a dot bleed size larger than 1/1440.

On color photographs there was no improvement beyond 720 ppi, even on sections that had a pure black line on a pure white background. Beyond that I found that
- 180 ppi was acceptable for most shots.
- 240 ppi saw a large improvement over 180 ppi.
- There was some improvement to 360 ppi, but you really had to look for it.
- On carefully crafted images you could see improvement to 720 ppi in monochromatic areas, suggesting photographs are scaled to 720 ppi before halftone. But otherwise there was nothing to see between 360 ppi and 720 ppi.
- By that time the scaling algorithms in the printer driver were already so good that hitting a multiple of the printer's resolution didn't matter. 240, 235, 245, 252 ppi etc. all came out the same.","attachment":null,"posted":1715373141},{"board":"p","thread":4312355,"pid":4312548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312378
>Also if you have images that exist at 300 PPI, you will need to interpolate them to fit 1440 DPI printing or let the printer handle that scaling.
>If you're looking for 1:1 input-output with a 300 DPI file you need to use HP/Canon/Brother who use 1200 DPI for their nozzles.
By the late 2000's the driver scaling was so good that this does not matter at all. You don't need to scale your 300 ppi image, and sending data at a multiple of the print head resolution or not makes no difference.

The only reason to scale in PS is if you have a very low resolution image because you can take steps to try and smooth out jaggies. If you send 72 ppi to the printer it's going to faithfully reproduce it and you will be able to see the stair steps. But 300 vs. 360 vs something odd like 305 is irrelevant. If 300 ppi is what you've got, it's what you're going to see on a good photo paper.

>when trying to print a 1800x1200 image for a 6x4 print on an EPSON because it's incapable of directly translating that to ink droplets without INTERPOLATING.
None of these printers "directly" translate the pixels to ink droplets. All of them scale to something they want internally and then apply a halftone.","attachment":null,"posted":1715373466}]} {"title":"pinhole cameras","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4313143,"pid":4313143,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've been trying to get into pinhole cameras lately. Does any anon here ever practiced solargraphy? Need some tips and tricks.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715555580553196.jpg","filename":"2133x1600x2.jpg"},"posted":1715555580},{"board":"p","thread":4313143,"pid":4313334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313143
Only quick attempts, while making a pinhole out of a Fed 2 box

Its a lot of fun, use ilford photo paper and it's cheap too

If I remember correctly, using an aluminium can is one of the best ways to set up one of these; cut off the top, put photo paper in, place and unmask pinhole, wait a year and come back, no processing necessary before scanning

Making the pinhole is the hardest part

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I've made two for a photography course and I also have one filming right now since the new year, planning to stop filming in midsummer.

I've used a film canister for my solargraphs. Cut a square hole to the side and put a piece of aluminum or similar material where you make the hole.

Whatever material you use, try to keep the hole as small as possible and clean the edges with sandpaper.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715621981631240.jpg","filename":"solarografia.jpg"},"posted":1715621981},{"board":"p","thread":4313143,"pid":4313372,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313347
that's when you realize a 0.3mm hole is fucking hard to make by hand, and that's almost the minimum to get any resolution

Though nice job on yours, it looks pretty great
Do you have a pic of the cannister after you modified it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715628127},{"board":"p","thread":4313143,"pid":4313685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313372
Pic was taken with the one on the right. Left was okay too but a bit more blurry. I used a regular pin needle to make the hole.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715704786315060.jpg","filename":"solarografia_canisters.jpg"},"posted":1715704786},{"board":"p","thread":4313143,"pid":4313690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313685
Here's the one taken with the left one.

Pictures were digitized with a regular DSLR with two lights pointing the photo paper in a 45 degree angle. Exposure checked with a gray paper beforehand.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715705180383075.jpg","filename":"solarografia_2.jpg"},"posted":1715705180},{"board":"p","thread":4313143,"pid":4313704,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313347
>>4313690
How long did you expose these for? Judging by the sun rings I'd guess around 3-4 weeks, right? Also, did you develop them or just scanned them as they are?

>>4313334
I wonder where did those white marks come from","attachment":null,"posted":1715707870},{"board":"p","thread":4313143,"pid":4313705,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313704
About three weeks is correct, since the exposing time was tied to the duration of the course. I scanned them as they were, no need to develop solarographs.","attachment":null,"posted":1715708606},{"board":"p","thread":4313143,"pid":4313721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313705
I know some people do develop solargraphs but if I recall correctly that's if you just use one of those semi-diy pinhole boxes for 20-30 seconds of exposure.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715712337726326.jpg","filename":"image.jpg"},"posted":1715712337},{"board":"p","thread":4313143,"pid":4313722,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4313721
Film photography is chemistry","attachment":null,"posted":1715712877}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4313432,"pid":4313432,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hey Anons.
Dumping some photos I've re-edited recently with some new tools.
Would love to hear some thoughts on the edits.
Starting with a photo of a squatted building in Amsterdam.

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I've edited all these photos with dehancer, which I've been messing around with using the free trial.
It attempts to emulate various film stocks.

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This is supposed to be Ilford XP2.

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I don't have enough experience to say whether any of these resemble the films they're supposed to, but I do feel that the colours I get using the tool feel a bit more refined than what I was getting before.

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This is from King's day in Amsterdam.

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From Berlin. Not a great photo, but I found the building interesting, it looks like it's from the national socialist era.

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Long exposure over a highway. For this I tried Lomography purple. Not entirely sure I like it.

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From a very greasy punk concert I went to. Later in the night when the music was forced to move inside I watched someone get flipped by the crowd.

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This shot would've been much nicer if it had been in focus.

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Another shot with fake Ilford XP2.
Could've been nicer with more detail.

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Outside of the city hall of 's-Hertogenbosch.
I find it weird thinking we live in historic times.

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Berlin skyline.
A lot of the detail was destroyed by the fake Ilford XP2. I think if my camera had more than 12mp it would have worked better.

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This is supposed to be Portra 400.

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Cat I met while on a bikeride.
Fake portra 400.
This'll be the last photo I share.

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>>4313451
Looks nothing like portra, more like “fujifilm digital superia x-tra 800”","attachment":null,"posted":1715641924},{"board":"p","thread":4313432,"pid":4313457,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313454
Here's a test with "portra 400" without any of the other processing I do in lightroom.

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>Set focus point with a broom or some shit
>Put a quarter on the ground where the focus point was
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I don't think you're allowed to. I had to go to the post office to get mine done and all that dude did was place me against a blank wall and use a piece of shit point and shoot nikon, so I'm sure if you wanted to fake it, it wouldn't be that hard. You definitely need to get another light source though, I don't think shadows are allowed","attachment":null,"posted":1715577867},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313286,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313233
>I don't think shadows are allowed
>Soulless bureaucrats supressing art
Doesn't surprise me","attachment":null,"posted":1715599688},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313302,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312896
You COULD technically take your own photo, but the government doesn't want every idiot with a shitty phone camera sending in wrong sized, formatted, lighting photos. So they've regulated it a bit to have approved vendors who follow the specifics to do it. It's also another step in the accountability department, another level of security that can be traced.","attachment":null,"posted":1715608260},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313320,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312896
Super easy, taken ~500ish passport photos over the years. Just do direct / on-camera flash with a white wall several feet behind you. Use a template like picrel to size appropriately.
It can be rejected for harsh shadows on the face or background (like OP), hair obstructing the face (longer hair tuck behind ears), weird exposure/processing. There are plenty examples online of what will / wont be rejected.

>>4313233
>>4313302
US doesn't care at all provided it meets the criteria above. Doesn't matter who took them, who printed, and there's not even date verification either. It used to be a decent side hustle for some people given how easy it is. There was a brief time where you could do it all online too, even easier to submit a digital file than than the 2x2 prints.
Canada was second most common for me, and those required a stamp (with our store), date and initials (we certify the image).

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Nigga my national ID pic was a phone selfie in front of a white wall until I had to renew it and they forced me to take a new photo.","attachment":null,"posted":1715615189},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313233
i've shot a bunch of foreigners, all you need is a flash and a wall","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715616990633941.jpg","filename":"1642178096345.jpg"},"posted":1715616990},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313233
>I don't think you're allowed to.
If you're in UK then yes you can. I took both my and my wife's - passports issued with no issues. I used a sheet for a neutral light background, a DSLR on a tripod and an IR remote release. Then I down loaded an app on my iPad that cropped the image correctly, uploaded it to a cloud storage and gave me a reference number I could use on the application.","attachment":null,"posted":1715624527},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313360,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313357
>>4313320
I guess it depends where you live. It seems to be all different.","attachment":null,"posted":1715625167},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313395,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313330
If you're foreign, shoot without a warning, call me paparazzi.","attachment":null,"posted":1715632344},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313395
That has potential to be a great bar. Work it out and put it on a moonman rap","attachment":null,"posted":1715636298},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313431,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313415
It's part of a Mr. Bond original: "Supa Nazi".
Catchy as hell.","attachment":null,"posted":1715639194},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312896
Use at least 50mm lens (around 80mm is best) or you'll look like shit. If shooting with a phone, zoom in 2-3x since the normal lens is usually equivalent to 24 to 35mm range.
If you don't have lights, do it if a cloudy day to get diffuse light. Sit or stand dead on towards light source (eg. window). Try around noon. Don't even think about shooting with artificial lights that are not studio lights or flashes (like household bulbs, especially CFLs or LEDs), it will look like shit.
Or just don't be a cheap shit and pay $15 to a teenager at CVS to have it done semi-completely.","attachment":null,"posted":1715655847},{"board":"p","thread":4312896,"pid":4313545,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How is this such a burning question that warrants so much debate? Find a white or very light wall. Try to position a light source so that there isn’t a big shadow behind you.
Take a selfie.
If you need to make changes to dimensions or erase shadow or lighten up the wall to white, most basic photo editing software can do this easy.
I haven’t done a US passport renewal yet, but most countries have switched or have digital forms with photo upload options, so you don’t even need to special print the photos anymore.","attachment":null,"posted":1715666912}]} {"title":"some of this year's photos so far","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313146,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've selected a couple of photos from this year to share and get some criticism if you guys will
The sequence is not chronological but rather loosely based on themes, whether of subjects or medium experimentations
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you look like you make poor decisions but stick with them n make them good decisions belatedly","attachment":null,"posted":1715564994},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313192,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313191
I don't know if you came to this conclusion from looking at me or at my photos, and I don't know if that's a good thing or bad
I can't say you're wrong, though","attachment":null,"posted":1715565287},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Grim, zach tier.","attachment":null,"posted":1715640446},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313447,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313440
which Zach?
and why grim?
you got me curious","attachment":null,"posted":1715640921},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313157
i like this","attachment":null,"posted":1715649768},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313579,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313173
always remember before posting these are the people you argue with in here","attachment":null,"posted":1715670889},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313666,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313447
this is you
>>4309912
the only difference is that you are shooting film","attachment":null,"posted":1715701519},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313167
feel like this would have gotten /p/raise in the garbage thread","attachment":null,"posted":1715701918},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313440
>t. zach tier","attachment":null,"posted":1715703334},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Not a big fan of the stitched photos, feels gimmicky for the sake of being gimmicky. But that might just be me.
In general the images seem a bit unfocussed I feel. I can't really tell what the subject is in a few especially >>4313157 and >>4313159

I like >>4313153 and >>4313149 a lot. Subject is clear and put into good context with them.
>>4313165
is good, but you could have gone a bit clearer in the intent.
Maybe a detail shot on the missing headlight, or contrast it with the modern car next to it.
I like the colours, I like your use of black and white especially.","attachment":null,"posted":1715703491},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313447
>>4313666
not trying to deflect criticism or anything but that guy's photos have absolutely nothing in common with what I do
You can still not like my photos, of course, but saying the photos I posted are similar to that guy's just makes me think you clearly have no idea what you're talking about

>>4313478
thanks, man

>>4313579
not even an elaborate ad hominem

>>4313668
thanks! I didn't post there but I remember seeing it, which is why I shot this
Wanted to see if I could make a nice photo out of literal garbage, and I quite like it

>>4313676
thanks for taking the time and elaborating on your thoughts
>Not a big fan of the stitched photos, feels gimmicky for the sake of being gimmicky
I get it. In the B&W one I just wanted to get the whole truck and couldn't because of my lens' angle of view, so I thought it could work and found a way to fit it in a single image
The color one was made later, very recently, so I did it more consciously. Not something that I would do for every photo, sure, but those two times I thought it was a mean to get the photo I wanted even though I wouldn't be able to do it with the gear I had at the time
>In general the images seem a bit unfocussed I feel
Can you tell me with which ones do you feel it the most? Again, not trying to deflect it. I'm actively asking for criticism, but maybe because of my familiarity with the photos I can't see where they're unfocused. They all look properly focused to me (except for the last one, of course)
> I can't really tell what the subject is in a few especially >>4313157 (You) and >>4313159 (You)
For the first one the subject is the building. It's a beautiful museum with a large open area under it; its project was made by Lina Bo Bardi, and it's a brutalist building called MASP (Museu de Arte de São Paulo, "São Paulo's Art Museum")
>cont","attachment":null,"posted":1715710471},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313717,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313712
>>4313676
I made this whole double film experiment and wanted to have the iconic red pillar on the underside of the photo along with the vivid scene of people strolling around in a pleasant sunny day, and the top part (where the building stands) in black and white, enforcing the cold grey colour of its concrete
The second photo needs a bit more context, I agree:
The museum is going through a restoration process
MASP's red pillars are some of the most iconic references in São Paulo (in Brazil; it's the biggest city in Latin America), and they're scraping off the paint in order to restore the building
So the pillars, which have been bright red since 1991, are now back to being grey as they were since the museum's inauguration in 1947
Having it stripped off of its vivid colour and replaced by the coldness of harsh concrete feels weird and cold, and I wanted to balance it with the couple going up the stairs
Picrel has a clearer view of the museum and the stairs and the grey pillar, and I like it but I think it lacks the human element of the couple going up the stairs

Thanks for the compliments on the other photos too
I agree the intent could be clearer with the fucked up old Fiat, it was maybe too descriptive
I was expecting that the car itself would 'tell a story' with the broken glass on the ground and the missing headlight, but maybe I could do more than just present it the way I found it
Could have lowered the angle, showed a bit more glass, focus more on the damaged parts
>I like the colours, I like your use of black and white especially.
Thanks a lot, and thanks again for the careful response and for making me rethink my decisions. It helps a lot

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OP you have upset this person's eyes, and harmed his sensibilities. What say you?","attachment":null,"posted":1715724190},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313776
oh my, if I were to know how deeply displeased and unsatisfied that random person would be I would never have even taken the lens cap off in the first place, much less would have I taken those photographs

no but seriously, I shoot what catches my attention
so, in short, I shoot what I find interesting, and not what is 'beautiful' or whatever
and those interesting things can be aesthetically pleasing as well, and it's on me as a photographer to portray stuff in a certain light (and it can be pretty or it can be repulsive or whatever)
The dent in the truck photos in the beginning of the thread, for example. It's a dent, it's not pretty, but it makes that truck different from the other ones, and in the context of the photograph I believe I managed to approach it in an aesthetically pleasing way: it has texture, an organic shape that at the same time is conflicting with the sense of 'indestructibility' of a gigantic truck like this one, and also complements its brute aspect

>>4313742
Only shooting conventionally pretty things to me is the equivalent to being a picky eater: it's childish, as if you didn't develop a proper palate, a proper sense of taste
Shooting cats and flowers and little cottages at the hillside can be nice, but only being able to appreciate that is kinda like those kids who only eat candy, cereals and random shit with copious amounts of corn syrup

Photography is not meant to be always pretty, it's a medium to express yourself
You can choose to express a wide range of emotions and impressions, or you can have a narrow and shallow approach of only showing beauty, which is not what I'm aiming for in the first place","attachment":null,"posted":1715725735},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313787
>no but seriously, I shoot what catches my attention
Well you must have ADHD
>Photography is not meant to be always pretty, it's a medium to express yourself
Well express yourself man, but I am not seeing any intent with most of these. There is no composition, no playing with light and shadows, they are just photos of buildings probably taken at mid day.

Funnily enough the only interesting photo is your self portrait
>>4313173
Because you did played with the light and tried some perspective.

You wanted to be a /p/oster taking photos of building corners but unironically you might be better at taking portraits.","attachment":null,"posted":1715725980},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313792,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313789
>You wanted to be a /p/oster taking photos of building corners but unironically you might be better at taking portraits.
kek I can live with that

>no but seriously, I shoot what catches my attention
>Well you must have ADHD
I like shooting urban scenes and its transformations, and its workers
hence why there are so many photos of trucks and machines and people working and the restoration of the museum etc.

>There is no composition
>no playing with light and shadows
I truly don't take criticism personally, I believe it's great for improving, but would you elaborate on that please?
because I'm honestly searching for some in-depth criticism so that I can think about it (and either incorporate that to my work or not, but at least think about it so that I make more conscious decisions in the future)
But just saying "oh it's bad", "you didn't shoot pretty things" is null
>picrel: pretty things","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715726784784745.jpg","filename":"[0] Ektar 100 - 120_med.jpg"},"posted":1715726784},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313801,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313712
By unfocused I mean that they're lacking a clear subject. I didn't even notice the couple to be honest.
Try playing around with light in a scene to pull the viewers attention. In general we pay attention to the lightest parts of an image first. If you place your subject there, the viewer will naturally understand the context of what you're trying to show them.

This is tough to do in wide shots, mostly because wide shots are just tougher to get right. The wider the shot the more other things are in the image to distract your viewer.","attachment":null,"posted":1715727820},{"board":"p","thread":4313146,"pid":4313853,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313801
thanks for the feedback
yeah, sometimes in wide shots it's tough to direct the viewer not only because there may be many things going on at once, but also because we have much less control over light
The most I can do for some subjects is select the time of the day (and the season etc.) that I go to shoot it
If I can't control light, I'll pay more attention to "control the light" in terms of the way I frame it","attachment":null,"posted":1715736329}]} {"title":"CanonRumors is dead!","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4313479,"pid":4313479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"And at the eve of the R5 MkII, when their traffic would be the absolute highest!

Where am I supposed to get my baseless speculation and clickbait now?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715650161087563.png","filename":"CanonRumorsDead.png"},"posted":1715650161},{"board":"p","thread":4313479,"pid":4313513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They were pulling everything out of their rear end anyways. Nothing of value was lost.
Canon is very good at not leaking info.","attachment":null,"posted":1715658956},{"board":"p","thread":4313479,"pid":4313528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313479
based good riddance
canon is the walmart camera","attachment":null,"posted":1715663038},{"board":"p","thread":4313479,"pid":4313529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313528
your mom is the walmart woman","attachment":null,"posted":1715663145},{"board":"p","thread":4313479,"pid":4313559,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"canon sent a hitman to cover up allegations of the r1 being delayed yet again","attachment":null,"posted":1715668857},{"board":"p","thread":4313479,"pid":4313560,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313479
She probably worked for boeing","attachment":null,"posted":1715668909},{"board":"p","thread":4313479,"pid":4313572,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My only sadness is that it makes it harder to know when preorders will open. The R5 II will likely be sold out for months, so preordering immediately is a must.","attachment":null,"posted":1715670371}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313672,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Have you ever bought a lens only to return it to the store later because you needed it for a particular event?

I hesitate to do so because I don't need such lenses in the long term, just for special occasions, for example trying to photograph the stars with a lens that costs $2,000 and then returning it afterwards.

Have you ever done this? Because rentals are expensive and too restrictive","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715702823587620.jpg","filename":"207741905-origpic-031334.jpg"},"posted":1715702823},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have all the things I need because I'm not poor","attachment":null,"posted":1715704138},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313684,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313672
>Have you ever done this?
no, because this is jew behavior. which makes it ok only if the store is jew-owned.
I just buy the lens or accessory I need outright. they always come in handy more than once.
also, if renting what you need is too expensive then whatever you're shooting isn't paying you right and as such, isn't worth the effort.","attachment":null,"posted":1715704710},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313672
Happens all the time, which is why most stores will charge a restocking fee. Some may also deny the return entirely (and then you're stuck selling the lens used yourself), or block you from future purchases (and returns).
If you can't afford rental prices, you should focus less on stealing and more on raising your income.","attachment":null,"posted":1715705283},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313672
Why would you do this? You clearly do need it, so just keep it for next time. It's okay to have lenses that only see infrequent use

>>4313692
>you should focus less on stealing and more on raising your income.
Stealing from corporations is morally righteous and the correct thing to do. Everyone should steal from corporations at every opportunity they get","attachment":null,"posted":1715709367},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313710,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313684
claiming jews purchase things and then later return to use for free is an old antisemitic trope, nice try.

The behavior is scummy all around though","attachment":null,"posted":1715709875},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313740,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4313710
>an old antisemitic trope
It's stood the test of time for a reason.","attachment":null,"posted":1715717675},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313752,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You should keep it out of guilt and then sell it later to some Hasids in Brooklyn for 60% of what they will flip it for.","attachment":null,"posted":1715720180},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313822,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313684
You can't do this as far as I'm concerned at the online based jew marketplaces like B&H or Adorama as they don't take returns if used/opened the box after purchase. I have bought a camera before and returned them due to disappointment, which is why I usually buy bodies/lenses I don't know about from original manufacturer, or best buy maybe. This is a place where returns are expected. Photography is picky.","attachment":null,"posted":1715731340},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313835,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313710
SHUT
IT
DOWN","attachment":null,"posted":1715732761},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313822
>You can't do this as far as I'm concerned at the online based jew marketplaces like B&H or Adorama as they don't take returns if used/opened the box after purchase
I'm pretty sure I've returned things to b&h before after using them. iirc they charged me a restocking fee, but other than that it was fine","attachment":null,"posted":1715732999},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"it's doable if you're good at not leaving any traces, and I mean ANY traces.
don't use it for too long before returning it. less than 5 days is ideal.
don't do it too much, else they'll catch on.

t. done this before","attachment":null,"posted":1715734255},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313882,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313740
Well the jews at B&H are on to your little scheme, and wont be having any of your jewish tricks. …i guess.

You and your jew fetish seem pretty fucking sad desu","attachment":null,"posted":1715746583},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313883,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4313882
Jew fetish?","attachment":null,"posted":1715747061},{"board":"p","thread":4313672,"pid":4313887,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313882
Whatcha doin, rabbi?

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if you didn't make $12k over 8 years using the equipment, you should stick to kit lenses","attachment":null,"posted":1715660337},{"board":"p","thread":4313511,"pid":4313522,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313518
>>4313511
Hava nagila!

Buy what you want and can afford, work harder to make the second one happen. If you dont turn a profit, who cares. You enjoyed yourself. That was the reward of your work.","attachment":null,"posted":1715662209},{"board":"p","thread":4313511,"pid":4313784,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313522
Incredibly based.","attachment":null,"posted":1715725448},{"board":"p","thread":4313511,"pid":4313786,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313522
the burgerkistan mind cant comprehend this","attachment":null,"posted":1715725648},{"board":"p","thread":4313511,"pid":4314380,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313511
extremely based if true","attachment":null,"posted":1715865426}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4313961,"pid":4313961,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i hate the chinese but fucking hell can they make a good COB this thing has rocked my cock off every single time i've been able to use it

battery sucks though, wish they'd make the entire line v mount compatible","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715770485274357.jpg","filename":"71nqLIt26VL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg"},"posted":1715770485}]} {"title":"Shooting Delta 3200 at 1600 then developing at 3200?","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313486,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I recently got some expired Delta for $10, and I have an OM10, which only goes up to 1600 ASA. What's
the best way to go about getting decent images from this. l've only ever pushed HP5, and trying to work out the logistics of shooting lower than box speed, then developing at box speed, and not being able to tell if it's pushing or pulling is making this a mindfuck. I've read and
read and understand what pushing and pulling DOES, but I guess this is hyper specific to this situation? I also
bought some expired P3200, so this would also translate to that somewhat.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715653165614297.jpg","filename":"Ilford_1887710_Delta_3200_Professional_135_36_B_W_1657731926_142802.jpg"},"posted":1715653165},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313488,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313486
Wow that's a great question Anon, I'm glad you asked. Sadly I don't know at all, but maybe someone in the film thread could help you! Any other questions so an entire thread didn't die for a single question?","attachment":null,"posted":1715653403},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313486
pushing means you underexpose and then overdevelop to compensate
pulling is the opposite
when you push, less 'light' hits the negative (log-exposure or whatever units it is). on the density curve this is the x-axis. if you were to then develop normally, you would get a thinner negative. overdeveloping to compensate results in a denser negative.
delta 3200 has a true iso of 1000 (box speed is not always true speed), but lets say 800 because thats the closest. by shooting it at 1600, you are underexposing by 1 stop. you can then overdevelop (dev at 1600) for a comparable dense negative. however, given its expired, i would shoot it at 1600 then develop at 3200, because you may be losing a stop extra due to it being expired (losing 1 stop due to underexposure + 1 stop from expired -> develop 2 stops more)
and then you now have to figure out where you expose for on the zone system because pushing means you lose shadows faster.","attachment":null,"posted":1715659636},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313574,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313486
read the datasheet you mongoloid
(It's an ISO 1000 film like the TMAX, shoot at 1600 and dev accordingly)
(dev in DD-X like everything pushed if you care about both shadow and highlight detail)
t. I only shoot HP5+ at 1600/3200 and delta at 3200/6400 it's my signature look","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715670563857963.gif","filename":"mysignaturelook.gif"},"posted":1715670563},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313577,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why are zoomers so allergic to shooting their films at box speed?","attachment":null,"posted":1715670757},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313574
>it's my signature look
please post some for future reference","attachment":null,"posted":1715670787},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313578
so you could bully me online?
no","attachment":null,"posted":1715670964},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313582,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313577
You shoot Delta 3200/P3200 at 1000? Be honest anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1715671669},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313580
so i can steal your look, hehe","attachment":null,"posted":1715673538},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313604,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313488
Lets face it, the only real threads in this god forsaken board are the recent photo and digishit ones. Only thing op killed is a gear/bait thread","attachment":null,"posted":1715681720},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313604
I hope the film general and all the people in it die in a fire.","attachment":null,"posted":1715691036},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313486
>meter for 1600
>develop for 1600

I did that recently with a roll of delta3200, came out fine. I will try to find a scan to post.","attachment":null,"posted":1715692919},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313580
Why do you post here?","attachment":null,"posted":1715704116},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313888,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313486
Neg film has most of its latitude/dynamic range on the highlight side. So over exposing by 1ev and developing normally usually helps the shadows and grain without blowing highlights. Sometimes anons do this on purpose. (E6 is more critical with less DR so it's important to nail exposure and shoot at box speed or just slightly over.)

That said, as other anons have pointed out its truly an ISO 1000 film designed to be pushed up to 3200. So you're not actually even over exposing it. It's expired so giving it more light is good. You might even want to shoot/develop as ISO 800 film. Or shoot as 800 and push to 1600.","attachment":null,"posted":1715749282},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313939,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313627
Why?","attachment":null,"posted":1715766491},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4313972,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313627
cant afford a roll of foma? your first roll came back entirely blank?","attachment":null,"posted":1715775909},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4314219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313488
People posting individual threads is how chan culture was supposed to work before that faggot moot ruined it by explicitly allowing generals and letting them take over. Oldfags remember when generals were not welcome. And they still aren’t.","attachment":null,"posted":1715820031},{"board":"p","thread":4313486,"pid":4314340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313939
>>4313972
you fuck dogs
>>4314219
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idk, I never watched anything or read any books but from my experience shooting portraits the most helpful things have been to compliment the model and never verbalize anything negative even if it's about you and the camera. Try to talk and banter, have a good time, be friendly. Bringing a bluetooth speaker for some background noise can also help things be less awkward

Scouting locations before hand is good. The more confident you seem while on the shoot the better the models respond

You can look up posing stuff for ideas but personally none of that ever sticks in my head when I'm out on the shoot and I just treat posing someone the same way I'd construct any other frame.

idk, that's all I have","attachment":null,"posted":1715852053},{"board":"p","thread":4314348,"pid":4314384,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://www.instagram.com/tatsuo_suzuki_001/","attachment":null,"posted":1715865871},{"board":"p","thread":4314348,"pid":4314387,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://www.instagram.com/hwilliamsjrphoto/","attachment":null,"posted":1715866504},{"board":"p","thread":4314348,"pid":4314391,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314348
>I don't know any of the basic rules, fundamentals, or philosophy behind it
good. take more portraits until you can see what kind of portraits you want to make, what portraits you like, and then your portraits will be like no one else's. the best way to take good photos is to take a lot.

however, I have done some work (read: about three days worth with the owner of a clothing store in a nearby city) with models and the number-one thing I remember from it was how the guy there (who'd been working in fashion for decades) kept telling the models to pose and they would just do it. it seemed like the models already knew how they wanted to look on camera so all he had to do was get them to strike their next pose when he was ready. poses in portraiture may not be what you like. I don't know. maybe you really just like plain faces.

I did learn another thing from one of my photography instructors at community college. He said you can cut off the forehead but never the eyebrows or anything below that. Next, he said you never cut anyone off at their joints; only cut them out of frame on a limb. that helps you frame extreme close-ups (cut-off at the neck), close ups (cut off beneath the shoulders) and medium shots (cut-off below the elbows and either above or below the hips). it could be a bullshit rule but it helps me make decisions so you could use it too.

Last thing, and I learnt this from another instructor: you need to take 10 000 photos to get a good one.","attachment":null,"posted":1715867491}]} {"title":"Stock Photos","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4314215,"pid":4314215,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm looking into selling stock photos as a side job, since it seems like a low risk form of income that, if it pays off, will be good and, if not, then I don't lose much depending on what kind of photos I'd take. I've never done this before, so I'm not very knowledgeable about this market and how to go about it. It looks like Shutterstock, Getty Images and Adobe Stock are the main websites for it, is that right? Are any of them not as big as they do seem or is there any other major website I seem to be missing? Anyways, I'm thinking of starting out through these, at least to see what happens.

Are there any general tips and words of advice I should hear before starting out? Anything goes, I'm always eager and willing to learn from people with more experiences and knowledge than me, either that they got from others, their personal experiences, etc. I feel like I'm aimless right now.

As I've mentioned, I don't see this as a carrer, it's just a way to potentially make something on the side, investing as little as I can into it, not really having deadlines or doing it full time, just a way to potentially make something from some of my photos. So, what should I really know going in?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715819454310961.jpg","filename":"1696601589375489.jpg"},"posted":1715819454},{"board":"p","thread":4314215,"pid":4314256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You will make absolutely no money, no matter how good you are. You'd be lucky to sell a handful of two dollar pictures per month. Don't waste your time.
Also, didn't read after the first sentence","attachment":null,"posted":1715826598},{"board":"p","thread":4314215,"pid":4314333,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Every photo worthy of selling have already been taken decades ago","attachment":null,"posted":1715845596}]} {"title":"HELP","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4314011,"pid":4314011,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"if you won't let us dream we won't let you sleep","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715784351560301.png","filename":"v roses.png"},"posted":1715784351}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302839,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I photograph stuff, I'll post some stuff, first photos that I like, then portraits and other stuff.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699016146906.jpg","filename":"DSC09342)b.jpg"},"posted":1712699016},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302840,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"they all have borders. let's try and get over that part","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699104497025.jpg","filename":"DSC09358)b.jpg"},"posted":1712699104},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302841,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699167610595.jpg","filename":"DSC09346)b.jpg"},"posted":1712699167},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699244175858.jpg","filename":"DSC09323)b.jpg"},"posted":1712699244},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302844,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699353582565.jpg","filename":"DSC09315)b.jpg"},"posted":1712699353},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302845,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699416382903.jpg","filename":"DSC09311)b.jpg"},"posted":1712699416},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699479580217.jpg","filename":"DSC09308)b.jpg"},"posted":1712699479},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699550130956.jpg","filename":"DSC09294)b.jpg"},"posted":1712699550},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302848,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699633574235.jpg","filename":"DSC09255)2b.jpg"},"posted":1712699633},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302850,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699697431889.jpg","filename":"DSC08843)finb.jpg"},"posted":1712699697},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699760778743.jpg","filename":"DSC08977)b.jpg"},"posted":1712699760},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302853,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699823738706.jpg","filename":"DSC08753).jpg"},"posted":1712699823},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712699993734144.jpg","filename":"DSC08531)b.jpg"},"posted":1712699993},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302864,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">stripped exif
Tell me why I should take you seriously and not as a bad faith actor?","attachment":null,"posted":1712702498},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302866,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302864
i used a piece of shit tool to resize my shit because its too big, i guess it stripped the efix.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712702649883728.jpg","filename":"DSC07235).jpg"},"posted":1712702649},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302869,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302864

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>>4302847
>>4302850
>>4302851
>>4302870
these are not worth posting.","attachment":null,"posted":1712704647},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302873,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712704819822470.jpg","filename":"DSC07404)).jpg"},"posted":1712704819},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302872
thanks! alright ill keep posting 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for some black and white","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712705368548893.jpg","filename":"DSC08261)bw2border.jpg"},"posted":1712705368},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302883,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712705431588138.jpg","filename":"DSC08282)bflip.jpg"},"posted":1712705431},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302884,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712705495620145.jpg","filename":"DSC08124)b2.jpg"},"posted":1712705495},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302885,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"also, most of the stuff i did learn, it was from here. after some months and years of hanging around, it did eventually turn into something","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712705577091957.jpg","filename":"DSC06573)b.jpg"},"posted":1712705577},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302886,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712705640313184.jpg","filename":"DSC05639)22.jpg"},"posted":1712705640},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302887,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"most of the street photography is done in bucharest, landscape stuff is mostly from a trip i had in greece. amazing country","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712705717602967.jpg","filename":"DSC05988)bw.jpg"},"posted":1712705717},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712705799513705.jpg","filename":"DSC06235)bwb.jpg"},"posted":1712705799},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712705862719120.jpg","filename":"DSC06478)bw.jpg"},"posted":1712705862},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712705955634317.jpg","filename":"DSC06593)bwb2.jpg"},"posted":1712705955},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302892,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706018378078.jpg","filename":"DSC08621)bwgrain.jpg"},"posted":1712706018},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302893,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706088763451.jpg","filename":"DSC08743)grain11.jpg"},"posted":1712706088},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302894,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706151847783.jpg","filename":"DSC02238).jpg"},"posted":1712706151},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"god i love minimalism","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706215257751.jpg","filename":"DSC00845)bo.jpg"},"posted":1712706215},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302896,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706278407909.jpg","filename":"DSC03174)lbor.jpg"},"posted":1712706278},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302897,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706342365485.jpg","filename":"DSC03653)bo.jpg"},"posted":1712706342},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302898,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706405650455.jpg","filename":"DSC00862))bo.jpg"},"posted":1712706405},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302899,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706468889139.jpg","filename":"DSC04890)resb.jpg"},"posted":1712706468},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302900,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"maybe some portraits","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706550888326.jpg","filename":"DSC09000)b.jpg"},"posted":1712706550},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302901,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706614081373.jpg","filename":"DSC09216)b.jpg"},"posted":1712706614},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302902,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706678005731.jpg","filename":"DSC08345)b.jpg"},"posted":1712706678},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302903,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706751784013.jpg","filename":"DSC07191).jpg"},"posted":1712706751},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302905,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"well its 3 am so ill come back tomorrow with some landscape, most of these are sony a7ii with a sony 50 1.8 btw","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712706851111657.jpg","filename":"DSC08215)b.jpg"},"posted":1712706851},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302905
>>4302903
>>4302902
>>4302901
>>4302900
randoms or people you know? the answer will allow me to form a picture of you, because this grouping of people says something kek.","attachment":null,"posted":1712707488},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302940,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Fuji? I like the colors more than anything","attachment":null,"posted":1712714935},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302943,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"third attempt to reply to this thread
nice shots OP","attachment":null,"posted":1712715385},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302961,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302905
I would prefer this photo in BW. with camera shake or longer SS would also be nice","attachment":null,"posted":1712722375},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302969,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">women
It's shit","attachment":null,"posted":1712723755},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302971,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Strong stuff over all Anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1712723926},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4302973,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"All I see are uneven thin white borders","attachment":null,"posted":1712724616},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302943
i'll try again to link reply to the shots i liked the most
>>4302899
>>4302894
>>4302891
>>4302886
>>4302884
>>4302883
>>4302873
>>4302856
>>4302842
>>4302839
>>4302887 (saved)
these plus the portraits were very nice","attachment":null,"posted":1712735467},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303013,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302940
sony actually, i used a nex 5 most of my life. then i wanted a full frame and got an a7ii.
after one year, its a good choice and much better, but not life changing i think.

>>4302908
people i know

>>4302932
alright buddy

>>4302971 >>4303007
thank you!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712738442959451.jpg","filename":"DSC05128)b.jpg"},"posted":1712738442},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303014,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"some greece coming in","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712738505005734.jpg","filename":"DSC05611)b.jpg"},"posted":1712738505},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712738597769767.jpg","filename":"DSC05636)b.jpg"},"posted":1712738597},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303017,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712738661859506.jpg","filename":"DSC05969)b.jpg"},"posted":1712738661},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712738747722622.jpg","filename":"DSC05997)2b.jpg"},"posted":1712738747},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303020,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712738811837426.jpg","filename":"DSC06000)b.jpg"},"posted":1712738811},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712738875262113.jpg","filename":"DSC06028)b.jpg"},"posted":1712738875},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303023,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712738938949350.jpg","filename":"DSC06683).jpg"},"posted":1712738938},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303024,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712739018856577.jpg","filename":"DSC06687).jpg"},"posted":1712739018},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712739095421170.jpg","filename":"DSC07513).jpg"},"posted":1712739095},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302969
kek
have some more then. this was on my nex5 + a helios 44-4

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>actually upset about stripped exif
Back to your gear thread.","attachment":null,"posted":1712756403},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303078,"name":"niajahdunn8@gmail.com","msg":">>4303049
Typical white man shit right here. Wants a hand out.","attachment":null,"posted":1712757613},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303082,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303078
Of course we do, we deserve it, for dragging you all along to the present day rather than just genociding your ancestors like was normal bitd","attachment":null,"posted":1712758033},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303084,"name":"niajahdunn8@gmail.com","msg":">>4303082
Oooooo, faggot dweller thinks he did something","attachment":null,"posted":1712758399},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302864
>WHERE EXIF
The photos are 800x1000. Literally instax sized on job-haver monitors. It's impossible to tell anything apart from a 5d classic like this. It's like browsing the internet circa 2010.

>>4303078
>>4303084
They let you post from jail? shit","attachment":null,"posted":1712758999},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303089,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The creepshots or "street photography" are just boring. No idea what people see in it. Maybe a contest to see who can take the zaniest creepshot.

>>4302894
>>4302899
This set is good, in an interior decor way. Some of them remind me of the generic sample photos that come packaged with americanflat's budget frames. Minimalism needs coherency and narrative to build out from the initial simplicity, like a study of 5 different parts of the same building published as a series, or it's just "neat".

>>4302903
>>4302905
Matching portrait backgrounds are a neat idea even if it was accidental. It makes them look like friends or a couple.","attachment":null,"posted":1712759725},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303085
wasnt the /p/ rule to not upload more than 1000px widest size? it was etiquette around here back in like, 2018.

>>4303089
thanks man, they actually were a couple, but it's not the same building behind them, those are different.
street photography is nice imo because it's the only time i can capture something that is natural and not staged or fabricated. it just feels natural and raw

>>4303049
uhh sure why not, i just recorded a video for you but obviously i cant post the link and i forgot the workarounds to bypass it on 4chan.
i feel like i was just rambling but the basic idea is like so
-shoot raw + jpg, and you can shoot a 3x bracket like EV +0.7. this has two advantages, one of them will end up being the best base exposure, and second, if you shoot low shutter speed, one of them has a good chance of being sharper because it may have lower motion blur
-fix your exposure, make sure you have decent highlights and nice shadows/blacks, i like contrast a lot so i always pull back my shadows and pull up the blacks
-play with the colours, there are some shit trends going on so try to play with them to see what feels right
-add colours to your highlights and midtones/shadows, but make sure to keep everything natural, you may end up having too saturated colours so u can just draw back the sat/vibrance a bit
-dodge and burn + use masks, this shit rocks

post a throwaway email here and i can try sending you the video","attachment":null,"posted":1712761837},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303098
>wasnt the /p/ rule to not upload more than 1000px widest size? it was etiquette around here back in like, 2018
It was always a dumb pseudo-rule. Why should the photos on /p/ be lower resolution than the porn on /b/? The guy who made it said "to reduce the blur inherent to digital cameras" (lolwut?) so I wonder if it had to do with his photos all being too blurry if they were any larger. It was also before 4k display proliferation was as thorough as it is now, but even then almost everyone could fit a 1920x1080 photo on their screen.

>-shoot raw + jpg, and you can shoot a 3x bracket like EV +0.7. this has two advantages, one of them will end up being the best base exposure, and second, if you shoot low shutter speed, one of them has a good chance of being sharper because it may have lower motion blur
I dont know about the older sony but on the newer ones, if you shoot raw, put it in highlight metering, and lock the exposure compensation at +1 every photo will end up perfectly exposed without harsh clipping or excessive noise unless you want to blow highlights, and then it goes to +3.","attachment":null,"posted":1712763378},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303130,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303098
thanks a lot, I'm still not familiar with some words but I'll look them up and learn from there. I still haven't tried experimenting with highlights and midtones/shadows, I've always played around the color chart of one single layer, so that is probably why some of my edits end up too green/blue or too much on the red tone... Also only things I know for now is basically adjusting the exposure/lighting of the whole photo

photothrowaya@yahoo.com thanks a bunch bro","attachment":null,"posted":1712768067},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303139,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303078
>>4303082
just sent the guy a 20 minute loom with a photoshop tutorial so yall can stop fighting.","attachment":null,"posted":1712770293},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303140,"name":"Sugar","msg":">>4303104

The 1000px rule was for people with slower internet connections and smaller screens, back then people were still using 4:3 for production and as main computers. It's 2024 and I think that rule needs to be updated for FHD max resolution.","attachment":null,"posted":1712770723},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303144,"name":"niajahdunn8@gmail.com","msg":">>4303085
Yeah, your Mom says HI. She doesn't taste as good as your sister fyi.","attachment":null,"posted":1712771021},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303152,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303078
bruh","attachment":null,"posted":1712772513},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303144
My mom's dead from cancer and my sister's my dad's dog, nigguh.","attachment":null,"posted":1712772645},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303320,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"hate to be that guy but what did you do for post procesing to these?","attachment":null,"posted":1712806368},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303376,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303320
no worries, so i strictly use photoshop and its adobe camera raw features, which is basically lightroom i guess.

drag down shadows, and slide up blacks, desaturate all the greens in the colour calibration and add colours to highlights and shadows, and dodge and burn, i replied to another person here
or, just go to any torrent site and look up film packs and use those, i also use some but not entirely in the process.

if you paste a throwaway email here i can send u the video i sent to the other guy","attachment":null,"posted":1712839596},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303376
>desaturate the greens
>i use sony
I see why they thought it was a fuji now","attachment":null,"posted":1712845653},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303450,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303397
yeah idk, i have never used a camera where my photos just came out perfectly and how i wanted them. if editing didnt exist i would kill myself","attachment":null,"posted":1712856097},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303461,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303376
Solid editing advice","attachment":null,"posted":1712858313},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303098
>>4303376
right I see your previous post whoops, sorry I'm retarded, very cool photos anon","attachment":null,"posted":1712868331},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303510,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303376
could you send me the vid? owo
reio2505@proton.me","attachment":null,"posted":1712868998},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Do you have an instagram link?","attachment":null,"posted":1712869470},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303570,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302839
Love those BW photos you have on Instagram where you're playing with geometric patterns. You definitely should be getting more traction. P.S. fuck them cars ;)","attachment":null,"posted":1712887584},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302839
>>4302840
>>4302841
>>4302842
>>4302844
>>4302845
>>4302846
>>4302847
>>4302848
>>4302853
Don't get discouraged Romanian bro, I love your stuff.
ps: from Hungarian bro","attachment":null,"posted":1712927645},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303646,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303461
>>4303507
thanks!!

>>4303570
uhh, mih.?? thank you as well, that type of photography is where i feel most comfortable desu, and fuck them cars

>>4303644
thanks man! was planning on visiting budapesta this year, would love to take some photos there","attachment":null,"posted":1712928130},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303652,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303646
Yup, I had to do a double take when I saw your photos on the first page lmaoo. Good shit bro, love your portraiture especially but I may be biased.","attachment":null,"posted":1712930712},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303652
what a crazy coincidence wow, your stuff is the bomb man, thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1712931045},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303752,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302839
>>4302840
>>4302841
Unf imagine how big "her" peener must be.","attachment":null,"posted":1712956941},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303766,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303752
Imagine being this addicted to porn","attachment":null,"posted":1712958658},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4303768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Do you publish these/make content of sorts?","attachment":null,"posted":1712960504},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4304220,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303768
i dont make any sort of content, but i have an instagram page i opened around 2016 to post my photos
also sold a few prints to some friends who wanted them, but that's about it","attachment":null,"posted":1713109859},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4304645,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302876
The boys looking hard AF","attachment":null,"posted":1713214204},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4304824,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302848
nice","attachment":null,"posted":1713276932},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4305414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4304220
What's your @?","attachment":null,"posted":1713433117},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4307585,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302842
I adore the depth in this one. Will you drop the exif for it? Praying you're still checking the thread Romanianbro","attachment":null,"posted":1714079714},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4307731,"name":"Randomer","msg":"Very nice photos...i really like the framed ones and the silhouette ones.Id love to post some of mines too!","attachment":null,"posted":1714137250},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4311766,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307585
sure man, here you go!
i just shoot a 50mm 1.8, nothing fancy. i also have a couple other manual lenses with adapters, a 35, 135, a helios, but rarely use them

>>4304645
>>4304824
>>4307731
yeah boyyy, thank you! sure man go ahead and post some

sidenote, i did go on a small trip and may have some photos. this weekend i'll visit bulgaria, so i'll probably come back with some landscape photos on a /rpt/

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This but the exact opposite","attachment":null,"posted":1715209230},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4311825,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302840
why though","attachment":null,"posted":1715215262},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4311832,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302839
>>4302840
>>4302841
Looks like my ex man fuuuuuck","attachment":null,"posted":1715215987},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4311833,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302902
She wasn't even Asian or anything but I always had to look twice dude fuuuuck","attachment":null,"posted":1715216099},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4311856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311832
Why do you say it like that?","attachment":null,"posted":1715220898},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4311896,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311856
Because I'm thinking about it","attachment":null,"posted":1715226769},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302886
>>4302897
>>4302903
these really spoke to me
great pics OP","attachment":null,"posted":1715263679},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312011,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311832
why did you date an ugly woman?","attachment":null,"posted":1715264730},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311832
>>4311896
OP here, i went through two breakups in the past 6 months, it gets really tough but it gets way better.
it's normal to feel bad about these things, but don't carry them with you too much, im way better now, you will be too :)

>>4312007
thank you so much! they're so different too, i like taking different styles of photos.

also, im posting a photo i took from a recent trip, i may post more tonight if i have time to edit.

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You have an insane eye for color editing, I thought those were film and i'm not easy to fool. Your pictures are super sharp and well exposed. This is impressive stuff anon. But on the other hand, your compositions and subjects are very mundane.

Best:
>>4302874
nicely dynamic with those guys leaving and great texture especially the bottom part
>>4302905
nice color work, nice details of the face and intense eyes, exposition is spot on in an environment that seems dark
>>4302887
fun composition, bonus points for creativity

worst:
>>4303023
awful colors (for your level anyway...), boring, soft
>>4302890
this is like the bad version of the other pic with nothing interesting whatsoever. All your black and white stuff is really weak except the one I pointed out, especially compared to what you do with colors. B&W makes your weaknesses glaring, there is a lack of storytelling, originality, and impact of the subject.
>>4302846
you have a couple snapshits like this with nothing interesting really. No clear subject, no story, too much details, inexpressive faces, nothing original

As I wrote you have some serious editing skills especially for colors and you are also good at exposure and focusing on the right place. But you are lacking in term of creativity. Most of those photos I have already seen, looks like random instagram feed. You should try to capture more things that only you see. Try to play with interesting textures and storytelling. Have a project that shows something over a series.","attachment":null,"posted":1715282630},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312190,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4302839
>le I do stuff
Go back","attachment":null,"posted":1715291090},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312210,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312139
OP here, this is a really great, thought out reply, and thank you for the compliments where they were due.

i definitely agree with your criticism, that one pic really is similar to the other silhouette photo, but nearly not as good, in a way i was trying to recreate it, but it didnt come out as i wished
i'd also say some of my photos just arent that good, like this one you mentioned >>4302846, its a "boring" photo in a traditional sense, though i will admit i just like the mood of it

in terms of capturing things that "only i see", i definitely try and do that, ive pretty much tried every type of photogaphy, but i keep resonating with minimalism and architecture, i just really like shapes, and in my circle, friends are mostly doing street, so i feel like i am focusing on stuff that i like the most and kinda play with that style.
i've also started just absolutely loving shadows, doesnt matter what type of photography, im posting this from my last trip as well

>>4312190
i don't use or browse reddit, but i have been on 4chan for about 10 years baka desu senpai

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2 breakups in 6 months tells me alot about you","attachment":null,"posted":1715295151},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312230
alright freud ill bite. broke up with the first because she started being rude and didn't remember what she was saying. she got an autism diagnosis during our relationship so it did make sense but still.
second one we broke it off amicably because she was disabled and we couldn't make it work. so what's that say about me?

also more pics

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Sounds like you only date cripples and retards","attachment":null,"posted":1715298855},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Me too, brotha
>>4312210
>>4312235
Nice","attachment":null,"posted":1715298981},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312249
i also dated a software engineer for chipsets and a drug addict before that so idk. we did some amphetamines and then she started crying and thought i wanted to traffic her for sex work.
she apologized the next day we cool now but we don't talk anymore

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To express it in other words I think you should add something a little fucked up and personnal to your style if you want to go next level. This is too smooth for my tastes. But of course you're doing pretty good already and the point at the end of the day is to enjoy your craft.","attachment":null,"posted":1715338341},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312410,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312364
theres some fucked up weirdos in bucharest but they are the last people id want to point a camera at","attachment":null,"posted":1715349560},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312435,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303098
>i cant post the link and i forgot the workarounds to bypass it on 4chan
Just upload it to catbox","attachment":null,"posted":1715352514},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312439,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312235
>she was disabled and we couldn't make it work
Was her cunt disabled or what?","attachment":null,"posted":1715352974},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312439
cardiac arrest at birth and in a wheelchair since birth. did physiotherapy and was able to start walking at 8 years old, but even 17 years after the walking, she has a walking disability still.

the sex was actually amazing, she was an amazing person too, i loved her but some things were harder to do together as she couldnt walk for very long, i like to go out all the time and it wasnt really working for me unfortunately

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>girlfriend is a vegetable
>the sex was GREAT
Do you creep incels really?","attachment":null,"posted":1715357806},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312268
where in Bulgaria? if you're leaving valuables in your car hide them well
you have a lot of cool pics here

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bro she lived alone, she is independent and can do pretty much what you or i could do, just like, slower and she just walks weird, dumbass.
but it's still a disability.

>>4312474
im not sure where, ive never been, but it's going to be in pic attached, we're visiting 3+ locations
it looks really cool and if i get even like, 5 really good photos then ill be satisfied; thank you as well!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715358895806039.png","filename":"chrome_oJAIjdsph0.png"},"posted":1715358895},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312474
>>4312476
regarding this, ill have a 50mm on me and a manual 35mm, i may switch between them if i want some closeups for whatever reason.

i also have a 135mm but i genuinely dont know where that could help me in the pics i usually take","attachment":null,"posted":1715358971},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312472
Vegan sex is best sex.","attachment":null,"posted":1715359849},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312489,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312467
>cardiac arrest at birth
What impact did that have?","attachment":null,"posted":1715360497},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312491,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312489
she died (i think two times as well) and they had to resuscitate her as a baby. in the time that she died, she had internal bleeding that went to her brain and it caused brain lesions, thats why she couldnt walk","attachment":null,"posted":1715360577},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"OP is there a punk scene in Romania? Are you part of that scene, if so?","attachment":null,"posted":1715366377},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312520,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312516
i dont know of any punk scenes. theres a ROminimal scene for techno you can check out, ive been to some events.

bunch of people here are somewhat similar to the punk movement, anti establishment hate government etc but i dont know of any shows or stuff like that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715367713},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312520
do you ever shoot portraits at events like that?","attachment":null,"posted":1715368001},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312522,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312521
hmm no, have never shot at any type of event ever
also, techno will sometimes have people doing drugs or under the influence of various things, me included occasionally, im not sure how happy they'd be if i were to take photos
but it is something i was thinking of, just visit a club or something and tell them i can take photos during the night for free, but i dont have a plan further than that","attachment":null,"posted":1715368155},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312525,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312522
>but it is something i was thinking of
I'm a /gd/fag and I'm working on a magazine (very small thing, probably a one-off that will be seen by like 10 people)
if you ever end up doing it, I would unironically pay for portraits of people fitting that
>similar to the punk movement, anti establishment hate government etc
aesthetic to put in it
would you be interested in that?","attachment":null,"posted":1715368838},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312525
maybe, it sounds interesting, if anything were to come up;","attachment":null,"posted":1715369026},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312531,"name":"BLULsnYW@protonmail.com","msg":">>4312527
right on, I'll leave a throwaway email if you want more details
it's basically a student project so not something serious by any means, I'm mostly just doing it to have something different to throw in my portfolio","attachment":null,"posted":1715369601},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312531
>throwaway email
>@protonmail.com
>not proton.me
yeah whatever you say","attachment":null,"posted":1715371255},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312538,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312536
ok it's not literally a throwaway but it's not an email I use normally","attachment":null,"posted":1715371559},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312551,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">romanian or some similar Eastern Europe shithole
>degenerate druggie
>fucks (abuses) cripples
>associates with really gay looking people
Oh yeah, it’s real gypsy hours","attachment":null,"posted":1715374623},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312551
>fucks (abuses) cripples
It's only abuse outside of marriage.","attachment":null,"posted":1715386482},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312606
>>4312551
It's not abuse period

A legal competent adult is a legal competent adult, even if they suck at walking. A very athletic and strong man with a normal woman is even more unbalanced in terms of physical ability and yet we worship the pairing.

maybe what you're really disgusted by is imperfect people still being allowed to enjoy life","attachment":null,"posted":1715388489},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312619,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312616
>people still being allowed to enjoy life
You don't have to fornicate to enjoy life.","attachment":null,"posted":1715388890},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312650,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312616
thanks man, you're right, guy doesnt know what hes talking about

>>4312551
we were both 25, she was perfectly capable, had a full time job, a social circle, talented and also gave kids drawing lessons on the side. full on adult, no abuse lol
my friends do look kinda gay, i do too, ill give you that.
>degenerate druggie
okay so what sue me. i only do drugs occasionally, when i go to tech parties, but the majority of the time i just drink

>>4312531
alright, i will let you know if i ever have anything for you, ill check with a couple friends if they know anything as well

>>4312619
yes? i didnt say we just had sex, we had a romantic relationship, its just included. just because u have a disability doesnt make you magically exempt from sex","attachment":null,"posted":1715398633},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312655,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312650
>we had a romantic relationship
Is that supposed to somehow negate that it's intercourse outside of wedlock?

>just because u have a disability doesnt make you magically exempt from sex
Nor should it.
Every capable man and woman is worthy of sexual pleasure and gratification from their spouse, should they so desire it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715400034},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312655
i thought trolling was against the rules outside /b/","attachment":null,"posted":1715407953},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312675
>Promoting the teachings of Christ is "trolling"
It's no wonder society's the way it is.","attachment":null,"posted":1715415863},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312139
>You have an insane eye for color editing, I thought those were film and i'm not easy to fool
So what fooled you, the extremely linear clipped highlights, the digital sharpness or the non existent grain? Fucking idiot","attachment":null,"posted":1715424184},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4312995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312712
hi op here, its true i dont use grain at all in my photos, maybe like 5 out of 100 photos, and i havent shot enough film to distinguish whatever "digital sharpness" is, so i mostly agree with you
but can u show me like 3 examples of what you mean by clipped highlights?","attachment":null,"posted":1715511099},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4313044,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312619
>>4312655
>>4312694
All christians are necessarily evil because their god is a malevolent entity, a lesser demon found in a desert cave. The real god does not need to write books and raise armies. That is the behavior of a mortal spirit. Simple as.","attachment":null,"posted":1715524862},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4314291,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Can I get a QRD on white borders?","attachment":null,"posted":1715832796},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4314304,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314291
I use them to help control the context of my image on websites where I otherwise can't control the color of the background it's displayed on. It also serves to reduce the image quality for anyone who might want to download it and re-share it.

But mostly it's necessary on instagram, who will not let you post 2:3 ratio images, so I use the borders to make my image 1:1, which the site will accept","attachment":null,"posted":1715836281},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4314320,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314304
No one's going to steal your pictures lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715842424},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4314321,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">I use them to help control the context of my image on websites where I otherwise can't control the color of the background it's displayed on.
Stupid
>It also serves to reduce the image quality for anyone who might want to download it and re-share it.
Beyond stupid
>But mostly it's necessary on instagram, who will not let you post 2:3 ratio images, so I use the borders to make my image 1:1, which the site will accept
Valid. Why didn't you just say this?","attachment":null,"posted":1715842536},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4314323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314321
because it's all true. Also try putting a border around an image and change the color a couple times, see how it effects your impression of the image. It's less stupid than you think.","attachment":null,"posted":1715843000},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4314326,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"White borders make your photos look better. It's as simple as that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715843522},{"board":"p","thread":4302839,"pid":4314371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314291
op here, i just had issues with instagram cropping some of my images at times, and i extend my image to 4:5 and add borders
also, it looks nice, it further frames photos so idk

>>4314326
this famalam

also ive downloaded all the photos from the weekend trip, i have around ~1000 when excluding that i shot in 3 photo brackets for EV, ive just edited the first one

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also, i obviously did not shoot at f/1.0, this is on a manual porst 35mm 2.8, so the camera doesn't recognize the aperture

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>Nikon D200, D70
>Pentax K10D (best)
>Canon Rebel T6i
>Sony A390 & A290
>Etc
These cameras are absolutely unique and look more like film than any preset you can slap ontop of your fooljiflam raws or NIGGOR snapshits. Zoomers are going to catch on soon. These cameras are still <$100 with kit lens, and other lenses for them are dirt cheap, tack sharp, indestructible screw drive lenses. GET ONE NOW, or miss out and cope with paying $300 for a K10D!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715789125678010.jpg","filename":"frontview.jpg"},"posted":1715789125},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314036
Instructions unclear, bought canon 1dsii.","attachment":null,"posted":1715789780},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314036
You forgot the canon 1D.
Agreed, lots of hype around CCD the past 5+ years.","attachment":null,"posted":1715790435},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314045,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314036
I don't usually likes DSLRs but I love my pentax ISTD like you wouldn't believe it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715790771},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314046,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314036
>Rebel T6i
>any Digital Rebel, for that matter
>CCD
Huh?","attachment":null,"posted":1715790869},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314058,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314036
They're okay... I wouldn't pay more than like a hundred bucks for one.

>Indestructible
Absolutely not

>Unique
Absolutely

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???","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715794003289311.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1715794003},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314066,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314063
holy shit, must buy","attachment":null,"posted":1715794295},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314069,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314036
>Pentax K10D (best)
Too bad the AF is atrocious. Hated it","attachment":null,"posted":1715794631},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314079,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314036
Seconding the D70/s though the sensors and cf card slot tend to shit out (pathetic reliability after a mere 20 years)
global shutter + ccd + af motor, let me guess, you need more?","attachment":null,"posted":1715797111},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314096,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314079
The d200 is more long lived. They’re not weather sealed any more but the 5-10 years the seals work for spare the camera a lot of wear just from dust, ambient moisture, and slowing down temperature changes","attachment":null,"posted":1715800813},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314096
i think this explains why fuji card slots and sensors die within a decade and every a7riii out there has at least one dead port now
no weather sealing","attachment":null,"posted":1715801021},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314117,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You have to buy cameras when they are "out of date trash" not when they are "future collector's items" or "confirmed classics."","attachment":null,"posted":1715804812},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314121,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They just have bad DR. Bad DR = nice tone mapping by default. Increase contrast and tweak exposure for the same results. Sensor "colors" have been debunked, all sensors are B&W. Deeper shadows (caused by better tone mapping) give a "saturated" look.","attachment":null,"posted":1715805586},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314189,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314121
This. I used these cameras when they were new. They were not, and are not, magic or capable of giving better color. They’re completely decent cameras, aside from being obsolete and low resolution. I really think the D700 was the first perfect FF SLR Nikon made. It runs circles around D200s and D300s.","attachment":null,"posted":1715815594},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How are the digital lenses for these old Pentax DSLRs? Or shall I just stick with my old manual lenses?","attachment":null,"posted":1715857932},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314355
All pentax lenses are just rebadged Scamrons","attachment":null,"posted":1715862836},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Zoomers are going to catch on soon
zoomers (including myself) don't want big chunky inconvenient dslrs. i don't think these are going to inflate that heavy in price.","attachment":null,"posted":1715885863},{"board":"p","thread":4314036,"pid":4314472,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314096
Yeah I might upgrade once my current D70 dies, but idk if the 10.2 MP is worth it for the extra processing time required","attachment":null,"posted":1715889082}]} {"title":"Copy cat snappers","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why is it that when I'm spotted with my camera trying to take a picture of something people immediately come up and also take a picture in the same direction using their smartphones? They don't even know why or what I am looking at.

Is this mental Illness of not wanting to be left out?

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People see your big "professional" camera and immediately assume there is something really great to take a photo of. To combat this I will purposefully go to places with obvious photos like waterfalls or whatever do a 180 and start taking photos of nothing. It confuses and panics the phone normie","attachment":null,"posted":1710658526},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295667,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295609
They go home to their husbands, wives, or support animals and say, "I saw some jerk taking a picture of this shit today"","attachment":null,"posted":1710675802},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295668,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4295609
Never had this happen to me, are you taking pictures of tourist attractions?","attachment":null,"posted":1710676215},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295668
No, am always in the belief I'm alone in a spot, once someone is close to me they either ask what I'm taking pictures of or they look in the same direction and start taking pictures with their smartphone. I,m Walking around I'm with a 70-200 mm","attachment":null,"posted":1710681415},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295712,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4295609
>>4295676
Mentally illness anon, those people were never there.
>>4295667
Kek","attachment":null,"posted":1710689730},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295723,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295676
This is why fujislugs hate larger cameras. Social interaction. “are you an artist? can i see your photos? they must be amazing. this is a beautiful view. you said you edit everything? whats your insta?”

Bring a 4x5 next time and if you’re at least a 6/10 you’ll pick up bitches even if you smell like dog hair (actually they might like that)","attachment":null,"posted":1710692370},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295730,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295723
>fujislugs
I know we no longer have ID counts but you should to be a bit subtler when samefagging, cANON","attachment":null,"posted":1710693193},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295732,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4295730
I'm not the only guy who says "fujislugs", fujislug.","attachment":null,"posted":1710693364},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295733,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4295676
What sorta things do you take pictures of? Show us some of your work, I'm curious.","attachment":null,"posted":1710693510},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295730
I’m not cANON, fujislug.","attachment":null,"posted":1710693538},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295730
was wondering why i cant find the posters in thread count. thought i was going crazy. when did they change it?","attachment":null,"posted":1710734324},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295936,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295908
On 3/11","attachment":null,"posted":1710742013},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4295938,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"um,, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!","attachment":null,"posted":1710743574},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4297843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295609
I hate even being seen taking a photograph, which is why I end up waiting until the coast is clear.
Though this also means that my photos are typically empty.
One moment that makes me fucking seethe is two years ago when I saw a gorgeous red sunset in my shitty metropolis (while I was leaving another failed job interview in a part of the city I have no other business in), but two women were taking fucking forever to take a photo of it, then they noticed me. I tried to wait around for a moment, but after being spotted, I walked off and gave up the opportunity of a great photo. Obviously, this incident has stayed with me.
So I guess I was inadvertently copy-catting them, but I was really pissed off that their being there and taking too much time meant I could not take mine.","attachment":null,"posted":1711301043},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4298596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297843
steel yourself by doing shitty waist level street photography for a couple months, or anything similar and you'll likely learn to overcome that "hate being seen" mindstate.","attachment":null,"posted":1711511135},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4298605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The gangstalked photographer.","attachment":null,"posted":1711517222},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4298627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295612
devlilish, i wish i wasn't too autistic to do this","attachment":null,"posted":1711528859},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4299037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4297843
>>4298596
Most americans are too neutered to do anything about you taking a photo
I was at the cherry blossom festival and there's a sick cherry blossom called "stumpy" that's about to be removed so they can repair the tidal basin seawall.
some dude who was literally wearing the loudest possible cycling shirt and bib shorts shows up and climbs over Stumpy's protective fence and walks about two feet from the tree
At first, I wanted to fight him, because he was standing in front of every single person's shot, and continued to do this for about five minutes, taking snapshits with his phone about a foot from the tree. I loudly said "loogat this fuckin' asshole"
then something completely changed in my head and I was like
>no. this is a gigachad move. this tree will be in a trashcan in three weeks anyway. I'm watching one of society's most hated categories of asshole completely ruin a bunch of peoples' gay iphone photos that they'll post to instagram, because he had the balls to ignore a gay orange construction fence and seize what he wanted.
so I shot four exposures on CS 400D of him molesting this tree while normies behind him seethe. I'm sure all of them will suck and be worthless because I suck as a photographer, but in that moment it just felt so fucking good to accept that any picture that I could take of that gay, sick tree would most likely be totally dwarfed by a perfect photo of this boomer gigachad carpe-ing the diem and pissing off hundreds of tourists.

Just go out with your camera on C(H) and rip off as many photos of strangers as you can. You won't care about what people think, but some people will love it, and you become so much better at detecting what differentiates a snapshit from kino","attachment":null,"posted":1711648755},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4299118,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why you this offended? If you trust in yourself and editing, your shot should still be different than others.
Getting your panties in a knot for no damn reason.","attachment":null,"posted":1711669491},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4299121,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295612
Based and devilish-pilled. I’ll do this the next time I’m out. I’ll report back of the shenanigans.","attachment":null,"posted":1711670320},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4301341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295676
most of these "people" barely deserve to be called human. The right thing to do would be to incinerate them but since we live in a society all I can tell you is to ignore them like you would insects","attachment":null,"posted":1712289680},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4301346,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295609
They don't know it's rude.","attachment":null,"posted":1712290094},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4303841,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295609
its like all those chumps staring at things through their phone instead of enjoying life","attachment":null,"posted":1712990094},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4303848,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295609
Probably because youre a gwc photographing tourist attractions","attachment":null,"posted":1712993180},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4303931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4299037
awesome
post one of those pics please","attachment":null,"posted":1713025920},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Test","attachment":null,"posted":1714248378},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308112,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4308109
we can read you loud and clear anon, over","attachment":null,"posted":1714249226},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308276,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295723
4x5 hasn't gotten anyone laid in at least 40 years anon","attachment":null,"posted":1714313076},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308316,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308276
Clearly you haven't heard of gay people","attachment":null,"posted":1714322071},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295676
>>I,m Walking around I'm with a 70-200 mm
>take photo with phone
>crop in
My photo's composition looks just like the one you took and the resolution is just fine for social media.","attachment":null,"posted":1714411263},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308614
Back in reality your photo looks like crispy ken rockwell shit and my photo is not on social media, its on my wall, because social media is for pathetic friendless narcissists who prefer the company of AI chatbots and IRL art is for real men who can take heat that hasnt been distilled down to robot operated like and dislike buttons.","attachment":null,"posted":1714413178},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308700,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4298627
A true autist wouldn't care.","attachment":null,"posted":1714430804},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308702,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308316
or dog fuckers","attachment":null,"posted":1714430842},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308706,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308702
No, no one has heard of those. Can you explain this in detail including where you came up with the idea and why it's on your mind despite being practically unheard of?","attachment":null,"posted":1714431025},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308839,"name":"Sugar","msg":">Be Sugar
>Paid wedding shoot 12 years ago
>Be in August in Florida on the beach
>Indoor/outdoor
>Gaggle of soccer moms with Rabals and kit lenses following me everywhere
>There's setting off my strobes with on-camera flash and getting in the way of me working
>Decide fuck this, hatch a devious plan
>Shooting with 5D and 60D at the time
>Leave the 60D outside
>Leave 5D inside
>Start going outside for pictures and grab 60d
>Soccer mom's cameras immediately fog up from 500% humidity
>Wait for them to acclimate to the heat
>Go back inside and shoot 5D
>Cameras immediately fog up again
>Rinse and repeat
>mfw

It was hilarious watching them use their shirts to try to wipe the condensation off and watch it immediately come back because therodynamics lol","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714483814946307.jpg","filename":"15826345_403142513359767_3213266593125634369_n.jpg"},"posted":1714483814},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295612
I was taking a photo of a duck that was quite a ways out was at around 550 - 600mm and about four times people walked by trying to take a picture of the same duck wirh their phone next to me... was very awkward.","attachment":null,"posted":1714484141},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4308911,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4308839
Devilish","attachment":null,"posted":1714491488},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4309480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308618
Not him but you would be better off posting a photo while talking all this shit if you really can "take heat".","attachment":null,"posted":1714624119},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4309806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295612
>People see your big "professional" camera and immediately assume there is something really great to take a photo of.
>Have an R8 with a 50mm
>People still do this
How much smaller do I need to make my camera?","attachment":null,"posted":1714760597},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4309815,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4309806
>How much smaller do I need to make my camera?
R10","attachment":null,"posted":1714763608},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4309825,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295609
Why do you care? People can have a fear of missing out, it's natural. Since you are the one with a clear composition in mind, you should not fret over this.","attachment":null,"posted":1714765848},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4312068,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4295612
I did that once, passed by a famous touristic spot and started shooting in the other direction, capturing other people's reactions and general street.","attachment":null,"posted":1715273878},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4312085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309806

Gotta use one of these bad boys.

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>Big professional camera
>Have Fujishit X-T200 with 35mm prime
>People queuing to copy my out-of-focus snapshits","attachment":null,"posted":1715278537},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4312136,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309806
>>4312110
If the lens comes off, people think you work for national geographic. I once was out at a wildlife preserve with my X-T3 and the 18-55, and this old couple approached me and insisted that I get a shot of the eagle's nest they saw across the river (probably 200-300 yards). When I told them that it was too far away, they looked at me like I was lying to them and said incredulously that they can see it with their binoculars.

People have no baseline for how cameras work.","attachment":null,"posted":1715282158},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4312138,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312136

Of course you could get the shot man, you have an APS-C sensor, so you pretty much have a 600mm lens lmao just crop it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715282571},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4312161,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312136
>Using 35mm
>"Can you zoom in on my watch"
>No
>"Yeah you can its right there"
>Points to focus ring","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715285580001721.jpg","filename":"1445297301531.jpg"},"posted":1715285580},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4312245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312136
>>4312161
oh yip u can with the P1000

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Haven't seen them at all in my area and there is a shit ton of wonderful things to take images of.","attachment":null,"posted":1715307075},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4312298,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312290

Nobody wants to take photos what you're aiming at","attachment":null,"posted":1715310057},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4314431,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303931
sorry, i forgot about this thread

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>>4314431
also i was mistaken it wasnt CS400D, it was Lomo Metro

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I must have broken that streak than.

>>4295723
Extremely based. I will say that a wooden field camera is going to maximize your odds of this happening. A shiny brass lens would be a nice touch also.","attachment":null,"posted":1715890179},{"board":"p","thread":4295609,"pid":4314481,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312290
>shit ton of wonderful things to take images of.
>takes photos of traffic cones","attachment":null,"posted":1715891117}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4303613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why is it that when I film in higher resolutions, the colors become much different (better, more natural looking).

I have a sonya6400, and the 4k footage has tremendously bette colors than 1080p footage. And I now just got a new gopro, and I see the same pattern. 4k has much better (more natural) colors than 1080p, and 5,3k is even better than 4k.

I've also tried youtubing some resulotion comparison videos on the same camera (with the same settings), and it's the same. Higher quality nearly always produces better and more natural colors.

What the hell is going on? I would like to not be limited to the highest possible resolution, but I just cannot unsee how bad the colors look on 1080p.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1712907596965353.png","filename":"kkk.png"},"posted":1712907596},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4303616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"computer","attachment":null,"posted":1712909796},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4303628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Good morning sar","attachment":null,"posted":1712921826},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4303637,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303613
it's the bit rate of the recording.","attachment":null,"posted":1712925673},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4303642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303637
this. 100 mb/s vs 24 mb/s","attachment":null,"posted":1712926356},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4307619,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303613
bigger color spaces","attachment":null,"posted":1714087616},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4307631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4303613
as the other posters said, better bit rate, better color space (4k 4:2:0 is the equivalent of 1080p 4:4:4), most if not all Sony APS-C 4K capable cams lineskip 1080p instead of downsampling. Here is a comparison between the a6400 and the RX100III which doesn't line skip.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714092662750415.png","filename":"rx100iii a6400.png"},"posted":1714092662},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4307782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So this is why on cameras that have only 1080p video, the video looks worse than stills from the same camera downsized to the same resolution?","attachment":null,"posted":1714149879},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4307796,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It depends on how the camera records the 4k, bitrate, etc

Sometimes recording 4k with a 1.5x crop actually looks better because it downsamples instead of lineskips. There are a lot of quirks to be aware of, but thankfully, you only have one or two cameras so you can learn the ideal video settings for what you do in 5 minutes and just never touch them. For me it's 4k30p max quality in DX mode with auto ISO on. I just never touch that shit. Exposure mode goes to manual, 180 degree reule, I flick the video switch, I get nice movies SOOC.","attachment":null,"posted":1714151878},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4308031,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4307631
Do you know if Nikon Z6ii line skips or downsamples?
How do you figure this out?","attachment":null,"posted":1714228087},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4308042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308031
God has to reveal it to you in a dream","attachment":null,"posted":1714233241},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4308060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308031
You ask a turbo gearfag. Usually panasonic micro four thirds users have these things memorized because pointless frame peeping video shit on full frames forms the basis of their self worth. Most of them will gladly write you an essay format shitpost about which FFs line skip or “dont even do DCI 4k”.","attachment":null,"posted":1714236890},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4308073,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308031
Z6ii probably line skips or at least is definitely not downsampled. Quick way to see is using DPReview's video comparison tool and looking at the Siemens star targets. Jagged lines/false color/moire are the giveaways.

Downsampling is a very electronically intensive process since you have to capture the whole sensor and then resize it down dozens of times per second. Upping the frame rate makes it even harder so skipping pixels was and often still is a common way to achieve that. Attached is a sample from the GH5 which downsamples and in its high frame rate mode so you have an idea of the difference. Also included is the A6400 which line skips but in high frame rate line skips even more.

Years ago, video resolution was just a spec sheet checkmark so they could plaster "FullHD" in marketing materials. The HD video from the older dSLRs (and the Sony's I mentioned in the earlier post) is a clownshow. It makes sense since companies were targeting photographers and if you wanted good quality HD, Canon wanted you buying the XC10 and not a Rebel. But a lot of buyers just going by the spec sheets would be disappointed. Panasonic usually avoided this in 1080p which is probably a reason why m43 had a strong following for years. Nowadays, downsampled 4K is common so use that if you can for 1080p.

Lots of factors involved in final quality. Bigger colorspace is better e.g. 4:4:4>4:2:2>4:2:0; higher bitrates are better; RAW > advanced codecs > primitive codecs; downsampling from 8K > 6K >5.3K > no downsampling > low to medium to high line skipping (for 4K output anyway. 2x resolution eliminates Bayer softening with more being introduced as you move down to no downsampling).

The crop factor falls under "no downsampling" and is worth thinking about since if you are losing sensor area a smaller format is worth looking at. E.g. the m43 LX10 cropped to smaller than the RX100 in video, EOS R cropped to near m43 size but with m43 you could get IBIS nothing else could touch.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714238864619374.png","filename":"line skipping.png"},"posted":1714238864},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4308075,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Video quality is very meaningless, fyi, most people literally can not view 4k video as actual 4k, their display software will downsample or otherwise interpolate it. Unless you are shooting for a professional job it's literally just the color space changing. Remember these retards are zooming in on 2mp/8mp video frames. Which are usually motion blurred.

Holywood even tolerates rolling shutter dramatic enough for gunfire to illuminate only half the screen.","attachment":null,"posted":1714240390},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4308087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308073
Wanted to add that some sensor crops also involve downsampling as >>4307796 pointed out. Personally, I don't like sensor cropping since you lose out on some of the benefits of the larger sensor.

Just to reiterate, unless you really need 1080, just use 4K since most modern cameras downsample from the full sensor in normal 4K modes these days (apart from a few super high resolution cameras).

But if you are like me and want 60p with full sensor readout, then options drop fast. A7SIII, R6 Mark II, and R8 and maybe some of the flagships for full frame. R8 has no IBIS though. APS-C has the X-H2S and A6700. m43rds has most of the GH series and the G9s. Oddly, the 1 inch cams don't do this outside of maybe some smartphones/action cams.","attachment":null,"posted":1714244134},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4311135,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308073
Interesting, I didn't even know DPR had video comparisons.
Thanks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715061984},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4313803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308075
>Video quality is very meaningless, fyi, most people literally can not view 4k video as actual 4k, their display software will downsample
4k 422 becomes 1080p 444
visibly superior, worth it in every case","attachment":null,"posted":1715728074},{"board":"p","thread":4303613,"pid":4313810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308073
>Downsampling is a very electronically intensive process since you have to capture the whole sensor and then resize it down dozens of times per second. Upping the frame rate makes it even harder so skipping pixels was and often still is a common way to achieve that.
Yep. One reason I love 4k off my R6 is that it's oversampled even at 4k60.","attachment":null,"posted":1715729300}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4308869,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What kind of camera do I need if I want to do sharp city photography. Does a FF sensor body not cut it anymore ? Or do I just some ultrasharp lens?

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Large format film is your answer, especially if you plan on ahooting architecture.","attachment":null,"posted":1714487156},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4308873,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308869
Show us a city photo you took and we will be able to determine your best options in relation to your desired results.

You do take photos, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1714487207},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4308876,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308873
Of course. The ones I’ll be posting are from a crop sensor camera

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This, but if you can't "swing" an LF camera a decent tilt-shift lens will work too.","attachment":null,"posted":1714487676},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4308878,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308876

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I have a 12-24 wide angle but often times the perspective distortion makes me not like how the photos turn out

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Like this one, after trying ACR geometry correction the top end of the image is blurred

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>>4308872
I figured the answer would be film. I’ve been using the same d7000 for 10 years, I was going to upgrade to FF but it seems like I better keep saving my money for LF? I only do this as a hobby, nobody cares about photos like these except me and maybe property or development owners who want to showcase their new works","attachment":null,"posted":1714488499},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4308963,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308893
A good large format camera is not necessarily expensive. If you have like 3 grand in total to buy a modern-ish FF and a good lens you have more than enough for an unbelievable 4x5 set up and possibly a couple hundred sheets of b&w film. Tmax100 4x5 is like 2-4 dollars per sheet, foma100 is like 1.25. Color sheets are more like 7 dollars per sheet, expensive, yes.

You want to use inexpensive b&w at first because there is a fairly steep learning curve to using a view camera, but you will be able to get phenomenal results once you figure everything out.

The other option is to either rent a tilt/shift lens+FF camera to see if it's enough, or get a view camera and a mounting back for your digital camera. It is sort of the best of both worlds, but the focal lengths available will be somewhat limiting for architectural work.
Rodenstock digaron lenses are insanely good, very expensive, and are designed for use with MF digital backs. They have very wide angle lenses you could use. 23 and 35 are the widest. They will not cover 4x5, but will have plenty of coverage for a FF sensor.","attachment":null,"posted":1714498142},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4308978,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308963
Thanks for the good advice. I was originally looking at the D810 for a FF which is around $700 right now, but getting a 4x5 maybe the answer to the gap, I can stick with my crop camera for everyday shooting and reserve the 4x5 for the architecture and possibly landscape.

Doing a quick search I see 4x5s range from $400 for the Intrepid to over $1k for others.
Do you have a recommendation in what to research or should I just look up 4x5 and architecture?

When it comes to development, I don’t have my own darkroom or dev equipment, I’m looking at $60 for a 25 pack plus $8 to develop BW each sheet ($200 a pack). Pretty steep","attachment":null,"posted":1714500308},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4308990,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308893
The answer isn't actually film. Perspective correction lenses exist for both EF and F mount, and Nikon is supposedly coming out with a mirrorless-only PC lens soon.

There are even PC lenses for 35mm cameras from the 70s and some chinkshit ones made today but they kind of suck and work best on APS-C because of the variable vignetting

You can totally do this on film, but it's not necessary and sheet film is retarded if you're not ready to do all of your processing at home. You also need a dedicated dark area just to dust off and load your sheets.","attachment":null,"posted":1714501586},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309000,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308978
Dev stuff is cheap, and it is easy. A 4 reel patterson tank will do 6 sheets with a mod54 4x5 holder. B&H sells the combo for $86. Changing bag is 30ish, chems are like 60ish for probably 100 sheets, and misc stuff is another 50ish, maybe. You can use an 8 reel patterson if you need to 12 sheets. Home dev can bring your costs down to less than a couple dollars per 6 sheets. Everything except the chems is interchangeable with color dev. Just different chemistry.

If you don't mind weight and a little bit of extra cost I would suggest a sinar p1 or p2. It's an incredible monorail camera with fully geared movements, and the system is fully modular with many accessories. Any other monorail camera will be more than enough for architectural.

Field cameras with very wide angle lenses can be tricky because of how close the lens is to the film plane, so you need to be sure to account of that if you're choosing a field camera. Usually can't just swap out a wide angle bellows like on a monorail.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714503373197553.jpg","filename":"s-l1600 (6).jpg"},"posted":1714503373},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309003,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308990
You only need a darkroom or extra large changing bag for 8x10. You can easily manage 4x5 with a small changing bag.","attachment":null,"posted":1714503463},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309000
And if you’re willing to live with less than perfect negatives, you can economize and reuse chems even more. Just save the first use for stuff you really care about. Depends on how poorfag were willing to go here lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714510286},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309062,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309060
so I’m looking at $1500+ up front costs for a camera, lens, darkroom dev kit,chemicals, and sheet film. That’s a big pill. I shoot pretty often digital but I’ve only shot film (35mm) 2-3 times a year.
Id have to go all in and make this the main focus of my hobby","attachment":null,"posted":1714510620},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309073,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308889
I forgot about this one. Shot with ilford HP5. One of the few images that to me feels like one of those old time architecture shots

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That’s a fair point, right now I have a mix of crop and full lenses. I do like the 55-300 and will miss it if I move to FF

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Sinar kit for like 600 with a 90mm lens that includes a few sheet film holders.

200ish or less for all developing stuff

85 for a 50 pack of foma100.

Just gotta hunt on ebay. You can get really good deals on sinar kits.","attachment":null,"posted":1714515112},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309062
https://www.ebay.com/itm/375364284290

The 90mm super angulon

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>this lens is rated as POOR with fungus and a broken shutter lock

>this camera is near mint except for all the damaged parts

I won’t be getting these but it gives me an idie of what to look for. Are there any big problems I should avoid with a 4x5 camera?","attachment":null,"posted":1714517043},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309101
Lol woops. Sorry, I just hastily found those 2. The main thing is that the bellows are light tight. Make sure the film holder/ground glass is there also.

With sinar it isn't too big of a deal because the bellows are easily interchangeable, but if you get a field camera it can be a big chore to replace them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714518940},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309109
Bellows can be replaced. Been many years since I did but I recall suitable replacement bellows to glue in a wooden 4x5 field camera was (at the time) around $70 from chinkexpress.","attachment":null,"posted":1714573572},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309279,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So as im doing research im seeing three types of cameras: press, field, and monorail, with the last being the heaviest and least portable but more affordable. Realistically if I’m trying to do architecture or open space photos I’d want either a field or press camera right?","attachment":null,"posted":1714575531},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309280,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308869
Solar/ND filter.
Heavy sturdy tripod with a weighted bag.
Motorized head for panoramas.
Shoot -6, -3, -, +3, +6 exposure bracket raws.
Use f11 or tighter.
Diffraction is a meme, don't worry about it.
Long exposure.

Pan (via the robotic head, not your hand) to get the shots you want.

Shouldn't take more than 15 minutes to properly photograph a scene. Might take longer to process.
You can use whatever camera you own but you'll need the tripod and other parts.
It's not your camera that's limiting.","attachment":null,"posted":1714576477},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309281,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309279
Most field or press cameras should have enough movements (front rise is the one you mainly need) to bring your verticals parallel if you're shooting a building from ground level.

Although ultrawides (75mm and shorter lenses) can be tricky on these, a lens between 90 and 120 should be wide enough for most of your needs and will work on one of these.

Your cheapest version of one of these will probably be an old crown or speed graphic from ebay.

As for the lenses, because you will shoot at f16 or narrower apartures quite a lot of the time, I wouldn't get too hungup on the exact precision of shutter timings (I'm counting a few seconds on bulb mode more often than not) because black and white film is generally fairly forgiving of small exposure errors.","attachment":null,"posted":1714576573},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309307,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309281
Something like this then? Should I look for one without a lens already so I can save the cost on the right focal length?
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>>4309307
Pretty sure tilting the back standard is used for perspective control, so make sure your camera has that.

Front tilt/shift is used to control the focal plane.","attachment":null,"posted":1714588525},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309380,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309307
That one looks decent. The lens is approximately eqivalent to 35mm focal length on 35mm film camera.

You will also need at least one film holder, something like this https://www.ebay.com/itm/375319703495?itmmeta=01HWTXKG3FYEQRW21S3SXC9W36&hash=item5762cc2fc7:g:kdsAAOSwwPtl-Qk-&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4AbebqRdUnRjMFDFtwHSClZGob8pGN%2FZJ59f7nG3ZviRxT8vuMtAi2edjxOdbhGyQoTjH21XmrQqhfHPP%2Fx1y6zyLGQ1WnnoxKzjDN%2Fk7lHpv7uohLHgjnriQBASiZoOPpx9PgA1UW8KebAWa%2BXBhUReeuunme2%2BkcE4CJ7rP6FUNaUUThB2sMZBueFdI2ChD1WOT8J8PJCvjbCovQoec2VA9NPTtVkWbRnasArMIFIMJ6L4tHghjImlxX74aZZesBaYFobrpLpFLhIGRqr0J%2Ftuq9WybjCb2cZ5ZpnhE1JB%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-qBzt3mYw","attachment":null,"posted":1714595510},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309380
Thanks for the reminder about the film holder, I’m also looking locally here, do any of these look promising?

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The cambo monorails look nice, especially the ones with the wider angle lenses. If they'll let you fiddle around with the camera some you should do that so you can see how they feel.

What's your routine for photographing architecture? You can pack a monorail+tripod, but it will take a few minutes longer to set up and breakdown, and it will be a little heavier.

I would not recommend the graflex even if they are the cheapest. They don't have the full range of movements that a field camera or monorail has. It will most likely be limiting for architectural work.","attachment":null,"posted":1714617836},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309457
The press cameras would be be no good for me but the pro is that it’s portable and I could adapt it to uses outside of strictly architecture

My current routine is that, I take my dslr and a tripod, remote shutter and ND filters depending on how light it is.

For this I will need a new tripod and head to support the weight, my locations will be parking-dependent so I’m not carrying this 6 blocks, and a lot of stability and patience","attachment":null,"posted":1714619457},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309463
Field cameras, not press cameras. They both fold up, but field cameras have a lot more movement to them. Those crown graphics don't even have any back tilt/swing.

Thats a pretty good price for the deardorf and shen hao field cameras, but I know its probably out of your budget. Actually they are all pretty well priced, and you could probably sell them on ebay for how much you pay or even a little more if you decide a monorail is too cumbersome or whatever.","attachment":null,"posted":1714619942},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309719,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">I want to take sharp pics of cities
>buy an LF film camera
Any modern digital camera with a tripod and any decent wide angle will do, say a Sigma Art 24mm, or, if you can afford it, a decent tilt shift lens.
Shoot at base ISO and with pixel shift if possible, the rest is sharpening and coloring with dubious taste.","attachment":null,"posted":1714728285},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309775,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309719
What makes an actually TS lens better than software geometry correction these days?","attachment":null,"posted":1714749015},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309775
It actually changes what is in the frame according to natures laws instead of stretching and cropping the image to produce an unnatural, overcooked looking clusterfuck according to ken rockwell's eyes

I've seen software perspective correction and it always looks like uncanny shit unless it's a 1000x600 postage stamp, then it just looks uncanny

You develop an eye for it after using highly distorted mirrorless lenses because they essentially do the same thing. Too much distortion correction might not affect the MTF chart but you can tell some things are being stretched and squished.","attachment":null,"posted":1714749457},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What about a shift lens?

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You don't lose any resolution by using a tilt-shift lens, while if you use software correction the part of the image that gets enlarged will be at a comparatively low resolution, and the fact that the image is stretched and resampled might cause artifacts.
Of course, the cost of a tilt-shift lens is in the diminishing returns realm, but it's an improvement.
>>4309782
If you don't have the money for a good TS lens it's not worth buying a lens specific for just one thing, better get a newer camera and short prime.","attachment":null,"posted":1714758045},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4309805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309796
A half decent canon/nikon TS lens is a lot cheaper than shooting large format unless you intend to take barely any pictures.

Actually it might be cheaper period depending on the LF gear you buy. Some of those view cameras get pricey just for rigidity, standard locks, and good overall condition.","attachment":null,"posted":1714760086},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4310011,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309805
>a half decent TS lens
Your setup is already half decent, if you're going to invest money in it you might as well wait until you have enough money for a significant upgrade.
There also are cheaper and much more versatile options, like getting a better digital camera with a better lens, which you could use to improve any picture you might take and not just architecture with a tripod.
>shooting large format
That's definitely not worth it outside of a very few niches at very high levels and with very high budgets and I wouldn't suggest anyone on /p/ buy one, I meant NEW camera as in camera released in the last few years, a modern one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714815147},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4310690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308893
>I figured the answer would be film. I’ve been using the same d7000 for 10 years, I was going to upgrade to FF but it seems like I better keep saving my money for LF?
Most likely not. You're getting knee jerk answers here.

LF potentially beats high resolution FF (45mp or higher) on two points.
- Resolution and max print size.
- Movements.

As for resolution: high resolution FF can make excellent 36" prints and good 60" prints, and that's before AI scaling algorithms. Do you need to print to larger sizes/higher quality than that? If not, then LF is not going to be better. In fact it can potentially be worse due to:
- Lack of film flatness.
- Poor lens IQ.
- Errors during development.
- Limited scanning capability.
And to that last point: high rez FF is going to beat 4x5 scanned on a flatbed. If your budget is flatbed, LF is not going to benefit you.

As for movements: you can't beat 4x5 and 8x10 view cameras for movements. But you can get close. Canon EF, for example, has native T/S lenses and 3rd party T/S lenses, and RF adds T/S adapters for MF lenses. On top of that PS has tools which are excellent at correcting perspective distortion. This digs into your resolution a bit, but unless you're printing huge it won't matter.

tl;dr - you will almost certainly be more productive with FF and T/S lenses or adapters + PS tools than you will with 4x5. And while 4x5 has an edge at the very limits of performance, you have to ask yourself if you will ever exploit and see it.

Now if you just want to play with/experience film, that's a different question. 4x5 is fun.","attachment":null,"posted":1714943029},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4310692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308876
No amount of lens sharpness will help with atmospheric haze. Some filters may help but otherwise you can only kinda compensate with dehaze.","attachment":null,"posted":1714943161},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4312001,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Actually that’s fine, I like the haze","attachment":null,"posted":1715262019},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4312037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309062
More than that, because irl when I sell images, no one wants a fucking print, they want a high res image file, and that shit has to be perfect. So if you’re going to fuck around with film to make pretty art prints that’s great but if you’re going to sell your images to architects and cities you’re wasting your time, because they are only interested in the file. For them you get at least a 45 megapixel body stick a tilt shift lens on it and then get very good in Photoshop because most of your work is going to be in the computer, producing a professional image. Never mind the camera, you can pick up a used Nik, Cannon or Sony that will do the capture just fine. what you’re going to need most is a proper display & calibration for color work, which is a few thousand.","attachment":null,"posted":1715268566},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4312083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The lens is more important in your case. Get a quality wide lens. Such as the RF15-35, RF 14-35 or any brand equivalent with any camera that's not too old and you're good to go","attachment":null,"posted":1715275993},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4312092,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308869
i think id rather shoot ff + stitch photos than go through the hassle of 4x5
you should try that first op","attachment":null,"posted":1715276564},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4313709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4308869
Large format + black and white film achieved this level of sharpness.

So many lenses these days are plenty sharp though. Just use a tripod, look up which f stop resolves the sharpest for your lens (consider focus depth as well depending on your composition) and do that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715709829},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4313768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310690
This thread is still up? I wanted to clarify:
>high resolution FF can make excellent 36" prints and good 60" prints, and that's before AI scaling algorithms.
This is to say that at 36" you're not going to see a sharpness/resolution difference between high resolution FF and 4x5 film properly scanned. At 60" you will see a difference side by side, but FF will still be sharp/acceptable.","attachment":null,"posted":1715722516},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4314442,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313768
>>4313709
Thank you anons. Seems like the short answer is LF, or the long solution is to find really good glass for FF.

I know these are considered sterile clinical looking photos but I've always loved how much detaily you can see in these photos, even down the names in the glass windows.

Shorpy says this is an 8x10 inch dry plate glass negative, so i guess that explains the clarity

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the shutter on that one doesnt seem to be too long, only the moving feet are blurred, but this one is much longer

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checked & blessed quads

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I love old shots like this, but I would argue that's not as sharp/detailed as modern high rez FF. (It's 8x10 but so many factors are at play, particularly limitations on lenses at the time, and limitations on the film emulsions). I once went through the 4x5 WWII photos at Shorpy and they are amazing for the history, and technically very good, but high rez FF out performs them on the technical quality. (Again: lenses, emulsions, 1940s. By then 8x10 was better than today's high rez FF.)

But, admittedly movements are a non-issue with LF. It's doable on FF but you've got to put the pieces together.","attachment":null,"posted":1715900250},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4314537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314535
Tonality still isn't as good on digital sensors.","attachment":null,"posted":1715900774},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4314539,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314535
Do you have a link to any gallery with photos like this from FF cameras","attachment":null,"posted":1715900930},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4314547,"name":"BurtGummer","msg":"You should try a Laowa 15mm Shift lens. Works on your camera, cheaper than a full Tilt/Shift, and they're built so solid that I bet a second-hand one would still be fine.

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Yes it is. In fact, you have to jump to LF with modern emulsions to distinguish as many tones/colors as modern FF. Not to be confused with palette or "look". Films can have very unique looks. But tonality is the ability to distinguish separate tones/colors, and the best FF sensors are incredible in this respect.

>>4314539
No because they didn't have digital cameras back then.","attachment":null,"posted":1715907705},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4314576,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314575
>as modern FF
...as modern FF digital.","attachment":null,"posted":1715907765},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4314580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314575
That's what i meant, and what I'm talking about. 4x5 and up, especially when contact printed.","attachment":null,"posted":1715908242},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4314582,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314575
>but high rez FF out performs them on the technical quality

Thats what Im asking, for photos like that taken with modern FF digital cameras so I can see the quality/detail. images like this >>4314547
for example","attachment":null,"posted":1715909126},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4314584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314582
You need to buy an 8x10 or larger contact print and look at it in person if you truly want to understand the difference.

I bet you could find a nice piece to hang on the wall for pretty cheap on ebay.","attachment":null,"posted":1715909795},{"board":"p","thread":4308869,"pid":4314585,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314580
>That's what i meant, and what I'm talking about. 4x5 and up, especially when contact printed.
That can be a valid argument for going that direction. I would say that you can learn to post process your digital files to look like old time B&W and Kodachrome. (Kodachrome would actually be harder.) But in the case of B&W, an easy path to getting that look is to simply do what they did. Use an emulsion close to what they had (if available, LF film choices are getting thin). Develop like they did. Print like they did. At the very least that would be a lot of fun and you should end up with a very similar result.

>>4314582
>Thats what Im asking, for photos like that taken with modern FF digital cameras so I can see the quality/detail. images like this >>4314547
>for example
Sorry, I shouldn't have been so curt. I would search Flickr. Search on the T/S lenses you're interested in, B&W. Also search on descriptive phrases like "B&W city architecture FF digital." You're bound to run into a style that's close enough at least to compare.

When I went through the WWII 4x5's many were portraits and I was comparing to my own shots on a 5Ds. And, again, those 4x5's are gorgeous, and Kodachrome's palette can be difficult to emulate. They represent an era. So artistically I'm not comparing anything I've done to them. But technically, resolution/sharpness/tonality, 5Ds RAWs edges them out. That surprised me at the time, but makes sense given the time period. A 4x5 can certainly edge out even an A7R V today. You have to print very large to see it, but it can.

If I seem like I'm pushing digital it's only because the cost/workflow advantages are so huge. And it's not like the early 2000's when LF would blow a 6mp DSLR out of the water. If you know what you're getting into with LF in terms of cost and time, and want to experience it, want to try and make photographs the way they did, then go LF.","attachment":null,"posted":1715910107}]} {"title":"grip gear","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"what's your favorite piece of grip equipment, anon?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715652649399870.jpg","filename":"stand-avenger-c-stand-30-detachable-kit-a2030dkit.jpg"},"posted":1715652649},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313483
gaffer tape.","attachment":null,"posted":1715653012},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313484
thats consumables not grip retard","attachment":null,"posted":1715653881},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313524,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313483
I think my DSLR has a pretty good grip","attachment":null,"posted":1715662715},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313524
my dslr grip is starting to peel off, will probably have to reglue eventually somewhere down the line","attachment":null,"posted":1715663360},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313524
>>4313533
dear lord it's true photographers are unbelievably brain dead

GRIP E Q U I P M E N T","attachment":null,"posted":1715668215},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313555,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"l-brackets are basically a requirement for tiny mirrorless cameras if you have slightly larger hands. the stock grips are puny on basically everything except a z9, z8, and r3","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715668638705109.jpg","filename":"1706628937834785.jpg"},"posted":1715668638},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313555
>mogs you while providing longer battery life and burst rates","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715668983419014.jpg","filename":"81-TKMPeddL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_DpWeblab_.jpg"},"posted":1715668983},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313564,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313550
no need to grip(e) about it","attachment":null,"posted":1715669168},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313568,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"grips are basically mandatory for fujis","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715669578859132.png","filename":".png"},"posted":1715669578},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313573,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Helps with telelphoto lenses, comfy otherwise

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>He needs a second battery to get acceptable battery life and the max burst rate
Oh boy","attachment":null,"posted":1715684425},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313610,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313609
just canon problems","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715685075223368.png","filename":"1704099632293205.png"},"posted":1715685075},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313614,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4313609
>>4313610
Not really, high-speed sensors need full voltage to operate at their maximum output.
It's enough of an issue that Canon was proposing the installation of a capacitor on the sensor assembly just to feed it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715687755},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313524
>>4313533
>>4313555
>>4313561
>>4313568
>>4313573
Remember everyone you talk to here is a gwc","attachment":null,"posted":1715691276},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313633,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313614
Cope. A1 can do more frames per second at a higher resolution and doesn't need a second battery","attachment":null,"posted":1715692180},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313635,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313628
And everyone else is an unpaid assistant who helped a boomer shoot an ad","attachment":null,"posted":1715692896},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313653,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313614
Explain why the A1 doesn't cripple itself if you dont use a battery grip
Explain why sony doesnt need a battery grip model AT ALL because the optional BG lasts longer than an R3 or Z9
Ah yes, I know why

SONY CAMERAS ARE TECHNOLOGICALLY SUPERIOR.
SONY LENSES ARE SUPERIOR.
OTHER CAMERA MANUFACTURERS ARE PRODUCING INFERIOR CRAP AND CANON WOULD BE THE #2 OR #3 BRAND, WITH NIKON AS #4 OR #5 (BELOW FUJI) BECAUSE THEIR OVERSIZED SHIT SUCKS - NIGGOR 50MM F1.8 IS THE SIZE OF A SONY 50MM F1.4 GM LMFAO

>inb4 muh color science
You dont become the top brand because your colors are bad. Maybe you should stop processing your raws in non industry standard software like lightroom and switch to capture one studio.
>inb4 muh baby mount
The canon RF 50mm f1.2 vignettes more than sony's 50mm f1.2 GM, despite being larger.
>inb4 muh star eater
Every single major brand has been discovered using forced LENR in raws - including Nikon. A7RV does not eat stars. Anyways, can you tell us more about why canon forces shadow NR in raws for low ISOs on the R6, R8, and R5, and why they force it at every ISO on the R3?

If you're not shooting sony you might as well buy a lumix G9II","attachment":null,"posted":1715698234},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313653
The only reason canikon have market share at all is legacy crap. Probably 80% of canon's market is boomers who financially have to stick with canon because of their $10k worth of EF lenses. Not because their cameras are good.

Sony's cameras and lenses are good. Sony actually has a lens selection that meets everyones needs instead of being a hard split between oversized bokeh whore crap and entry level junk without weather sealing (or whatever the fuck nikon is doing with super soft wide open consoomer grade entry level primes that are the size of sony GM lenses)
Seriously nikon Z lenses are a fucking embarassment. 20mm Z - softer than sony's, 2x the size. 24mm Z - softer and slower than sony's, larger. 35mm Z - softer and slower than sonys GM, same size. 50mm Z - softer and slower, same size. 85mm Z - only lens that is actually better than sony's.

Oh and on sony you can actually get compact primes that aren't non-WR plastic shit or jokes with noisy slow AF. Who cares if the 26mm f2.8 is thin, once you add the hood and filter to "weather seal" it its the same size as the sony 24mm f2.8 G kek

Why do you think canon is so deathly afraid of third party AF lenses on RF mount? They're not allowing that until they estimate that enough EF gear has been traded in for RF gear.
Why do you think there are no FF sigma lenses for nikon Z? Nikon is dying fast enough as it is, they wont allow sigma to do that.

Just look at what happened to nikon. the one and only reason they plummeted to a nearly bottom tier brand is because they incorrectly assumed no one was using AF-D lenses. So when they decided not to support them, they lost half their customers to sony.

>>4313483
Nobody uses this crap now that cameras go over ISO 400, shoot outside and you have all the lighting you'll ever need. Almost nobody studiofags unless they are working under a larger corporate umbrella or are an early lifer. Realestate has gotten too expensive and most clients think flash looks bad.","attachment":null,"posted":1715698674},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313657,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313654
>clients think flash looks bad
CMOS killed pretentious photography. As soon as anyone could shoot in any light and get a clean image only advertisers were shooting with flash. Now artificial lighting is just “the ad look” and fashion photographers have gotten even more pretentious to cope","attachment":null,"posted":1715699344},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313661,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313654
Nikon is incompetent and out of touch

Those 1.8 primes are inexcusably bad values except for the 50 and 85. Pentax FF digital tier.","attachment":null,"posted":1715700034},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313664,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4313654
>Why do you think canon is so deathly afraid of third party AF lenses on RF mount?
Sigma caters to the lower market segments and Canon doesn't to allow Sigma's lenses to be sold until they have produced a similar product.
If Sigma's offering did arrive first, many of the budget users wouldn't purchase or trade in for the Canon equivalent even if it was better.","attachment":null,"posted":1715700456},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313654
You just outed yourself for having never been near an editorial or commercial shoot, ever.","attachment":null,"posted":1715704478},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313700,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313682
>confirms that flash is only for wankers shooting ads for jc penny
Least worthwhile form of photography. Subwedding gear wank.

Conflict journalism and landscapes is all that’s ever been good.","attachment":null,"posted":1715706430},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313706,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313700
A moot point for you though","attachment":null,"posted":1715708978},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313718,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313706
>worships subwedding gear wank because they use the most gear","attachment":null,"posted":1715711576},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313729,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313718
You’ve really settled into your crab bucket.","attachment":null,"posted":1715714958},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4313840,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313654
We all see you want to justify your purchase and I'm sure Sony would be happy with your commitment, however many of us at /p/ will continue to enjoy shooting Canikon rather than Snoy baby mounts with forcibly ill cooked raws with fried chicken GMs that are too seasoned and washed in a sink. Enjoy having more userbase, just like how Playstation is #1 ensures it must be the best game experience that is universally enjoyed.","attachment":null,"posted":1715733960},{"board":"p","thread":4313483,"pid":4314590,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I love this little nigger like you wouldn't believe","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715911191718293.jpg","filename":"kpkcp101.jpg"},"posted":1715911191}]} {"title":"Lumix S5 for video","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4309250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Seeing these cameras go for about £600 on eBay used at the moment. I only just bought one a few years ago for about double the price used, what gives? I know the S5ii and iix have much better autofocus for video but honestly if you want to get into filmmaking, this camera is an absolute bargain now for what it can do.

The built in H265 with vlog is fantastic. L Mount means you can adapt a shit ton of vintage glass to it and it can be easily rigged out into a cinema camera if needed. Think I might snag myself another one soon to use as a B cam for documentary and gig work.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714570247829048.jpg","filename":"P016670K.jpg"},"posted":1714570247},{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4309261,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ok cool story bro. Great thread anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1714572299},{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4309443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm getting one with the Sigma 2.8 zooms. You can get the same setup in Sony and it's more expensive.","attachment":null,"posted":1714613262},{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4310871,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309250
yeah the S5 is legit. Let people gear chase and follow trends.","attachment":null,"posted":1715007290},{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4310873,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310871
The S5 is like, "the camera" for "gear chasers"
Its literally a trendy camera only to youtube watching gearfags because all of the gearfags on youtube are having constant circlejerks and jizzing their pants over
>THE CODECS BRO, THE CODECS
>MY OTHERWISE SHITTY MACBOOK CAN EDIT IT FASTER (NO BENEFIT OUTSIDE OF MACBOOKS)
>THE VIDEO MODES
>OH MY GOD THE 4K IS DCI
Meanwhile the autofocus is trash and panusonics lifeless, neutral colors always NEED "grading" so the level of effort you have to put in (manual focus only, always shoot raw/log) is ridiculous... all for "codecs" that have really have no appreciable benefit unless you are trying to use editing to shoot midday as sunset or salvage ridiculously wrong white balance decisions. And it's not like more common, cheaper cameras that take more common, cheaper lenses can't handle retarded "i need the 422" situations like those.

And then there's frame peepers. Pixel peepers I can understand. A photo is not going anywhere and they've been too detailed for one glance since, uh, the beginning of photography, but movie stills? Who pauses and zooms in, besides conspiracy theorists who think they see aliens? Panusonic users.
>watches the same clip 100 times
>pauses
>THERE
>zooms way in on a wrinkle in a shirt
>See that spot? HE DIDNT SHOOT THIS IN ALL-I! Probably because his shitty camera couldn't! -panusonic user, ignoring that the video is always in focus and the colors came out good with no editing","attachment":null,"posted":1715008060},{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4310888,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310873
actually this is basically anyone who wants to use FF for video","attachment":null,"posted":1715010868},{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4310906,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310873
>lifeless, neutral colors always NEED "grading"
so... a raw file?","attachment":null,"posted":1715013750},{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4310913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310906
No? Raw files do not contain colors. The input profile for the raw does. Raw files do produce different data from the same colors compared to raw files from different cameras, but there's no actual color in them. They're monochrome grids. A program running an algorithm uses an input profile to guestimate color from the monochrome grid.
Most editors have a totally flat profile to start from plus a editor specific interpretation and a few camera matching profiles that replicate SOOC jpegs. Capture one, for example, is known for their very good input profiles that are like camera matching+.

Maybe you meant "so... a log gamma?". Maybe, but panusonic color science in sooc video is dull enough that you might as well shoot in log.","attachment":null,"posted":1715014903},{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4310925,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310913
this guy is retarded","attachment":null,"posted":1715016818},{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4310928,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309250
>Full frame
>Video
Why do people keep doing this to themselves","attachment":null,"posted":1715017503},{"board":"p","thread":4309250,"pid":4314674,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310873
Did your brain get fried by fiddling too much using your film simulation dial on a Fuji so that you can only enjoy oversaturated colors?
If you really believe a cheapo S5 is for gear chasers, do you also believe that. the GH5 and before that the Canon EOS 5D MKII were for gear chasers?
Those cameras are just beginner-priced modes of entry that offer a lot of flexibility vs. other cameras. A gear chaser would opt for something like the Sony ZV-E1, which offers a whole lot of compromise, awful colour science and a few gimmicks for 2500 bucks upwards.","attachment":null,"posted":1715945677}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312332,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why do you hate him?

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he reminds /p/hotocucks who still believe photography is le art and that one day they're gonna make it big with photos the world will surely admire and care about that photography is just another business that's also getting only harder to keep yourself attached to with every passing month","attachment":null,"posted":1715333596},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312356,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312332
I don't hate him, I hate you for purile shitposting","attachment":null,"posted":1715335383},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312365,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312349
Work on your run-on sentences.","attachment":null,"posted":1715338526},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312396,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312365
*works*
next time I'll CRUSH you even harder","attachment":null,"posted":1715348072},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Go away Jared I'm not watching your latest vid","attachment":null,"posted":1715348242},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312400,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312332
He’s the archetypical photographer the world doesnt need. First in line to be replaced by a drone with a snoy. And yet he thinks he has all the right opinions

Just so you know, any photographer with a clue about gear stopped caring before they even got a career. Listening to this guy is like listening to a taxi driver about racecars when you can ask an f1 champ wuts gud and get
>doesnt matter learn to drive","attachment":null,"posted":1715348686},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312408,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312349
Weird, I watch his videos and I get the impression that’s the opposite, that he knows he’s a gearfag and shill and embraces it and he doesn’t seem to get too wrapped up in the bullshit mysticism of “le photograph” that other Jewtubers seem to. But I don’t know YouTube is kind of just on in the background for me.","attachment":null,"posted":1715349448},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312432,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312400
yeah basically this

jared polin is a taxi driver talking about sportscars
he talks like he knows everything but the only laptime he ever posted was 20 minutes around the nurburgring, counting the crash and the crying session, and one time he almost spun out and went over a cliff while attempting a "togue attack"

the extent of his photographic knowledge is setting up back button AF, bitching about autofocus and comfort when using 1200mm zooms, and applying lightroom presets. he cant even frame a shot or use appropriate exposure settings. he shoots with his shutter speed 2 to 3 stops higher than it needs to be, cranks the ISO, and misses the shot entirely anyways and has to crop it to save it. some people shoot for a crop and that's ok but he cant even center a subject sometimes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715352460},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312434,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312408
>he knows he’s a gearfag and shill and embraces it and he doesn’t seem to get too wrapped up in the bullshit mysticism of “le photograph”
that's exactly what I meant and that's exactly why he's hated on /p/ by some
sorry if it wasn't clear, working on my run-on sentences rn","attachment":null,"posted":1715352475},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312567,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312332
All RAW elitists should be shot. Simple as.","attachment":null,"posted":1715379683},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312571,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312567
Film cameras only shot raw. Negatives have more editing latitude than some cameras raws, actually.

Jpeg is a degeneration. Like being stuck with one film stock, lab, and scanner with your camera and having to buy a new one to make a significant change.","attachment":null,"posted":1715379817},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312573,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312571
mostly thats because all cameras not named leica have really bad jpeg engines

yes even nikon and fuji. x100vi jpegs look worse than an iphone. Z8 jpegs are just shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1715379916},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312592,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312332
Becuase he is into promoting himself and being famous more than being a good photographer.
>hence the annoying spastic videos made for zoomers
>hence the ridiculous hair","attachment":null,"posted":1715382421},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I only shoot film, have never owned a digital camera.

>wtf is raw?

I know it’s some format but why is it supposed to be so good?","attachment":null,"posted":1715386639},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312332
Pros:
-Happy to talk about negatives of any brand
-Real-world reviews actually give a good idea of how cameras and lenses perform in appropriate use-cases

Cons:
-Terrible personality. Very American
-Claims to be in the gym every day but has arms like a 17 year old who's been training for a month
-Photos are ok but if he wasn't reviewing gear, he wouldn't have a channel based around is skills are a photographer.
-Editing skills are heavy-handed and pretty awful
-Presets also look awful. What he calls 'Skittles', I call oversaturated garbage.","attachment":null,"posted":1715387326},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312608
Not sure if you're serious, but if you've really only shot film, you may be.
Raw is essentially the entirity of the information the sensor has captured without any noise reduction, sharpening, contrast or saturation added.
It's basically your film negative, ready for you to process however you want to.

JPG or whatever other HEICs (high efficiency image codecs) are out now just apply all those settings for you and save the file in a compressed format with less specific colour information per pixel. Very limiting if you want to make any changes to it after taking it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715387834},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312407
go back to pol loser","attachment":null,"posted":1715388772},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312623,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312612
>without any noise reduction, sharpening, contrast or saturation added.
In an honest world.","attachment":null,"posted":1715389993},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312777,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312612
Why would the raw style image not have been the default from the get go? Digital seems overly confusing and processed to me.","attachment":null,"posted":1715448704},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312785,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312777
i bet a lot of things seem overly confusing to you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715449699},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4312787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312777
raw is the actual exposure / source file, like a negative
jpg is some interpretation of that raw, like a print or scan","attachment":null,"posted":1715452248},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312785
I bet you only shoot auto too","attachment":null,"posted":1715520938},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313030,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4312777
It was, but most people/companies realized the benefit of digital was convenience.","attachment":null,"posted":1715522646},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313041,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312777
Because storage used to be expensive and most computers were too slow to edit raws. That’s it. Only an idiot would waste their time shooting jpeg. Its lower than accepting lab scans - the lab still does exposure and color balance corrections for you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715524311},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313066,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"He had a very good video about how to use my camera model specifically and what all the different settings and options did that was better than the manual. I tried watching one of his other videos and he just comes off as a guy that has to suck himself off and present himself as someone that gets constantly sucked off to win clients. Idk. He's a product of what sells in the industry.","attachment":null,"posted":1715531402},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313072,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'll tell you why I'm indifferent to him
.
But I need to tell you about my shitty LUT presets.

When the RF 100-500 came out, his review complained for over a full minute about how the zoom would slide out from gravity, and said Canon should have made it tighter. That lens has a ring to make the zoom do exactly that to user preference. He couldn't even bother to look at the lens he was reviewing.

He's not worth your time getting angry over. Move on with your life.","attachment":null,"posted":1715534148},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312332
Like every member of his group, he avoids work and prefers to profit off the backs of others. He is a liar and phony, unable to create anything meaningful or beautiful on his own he turns to the skills and achievements of others off which he becomes a parasite.

The group I am, of course, referring to professional photographers.","attachment":null,"posted":1715545943},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313140,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313022
you scan you film, don't you?","attachment":null,"posted":1715553940},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313142,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313140
No. Enlarger","attachment":null,"posted":1715554264},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313175,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313142
Fucking rekt kek","attachment":null,"posted":1715560867},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312332
He’s too old to still be acting like a retarded 20-something putz. Then again perhaps he knows his audience and its all performative for them to relate to. jfc","attachment":null,"posted":1715582835},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313257,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312573
>um guize i like throwing all my color & detail out and keeping a jpeg.
>some cameras do rly gud jpegs
No they sure the fuck don’t, thats not how jpeg works at all. Ken Rockwell go crawl in a hole and die i swear to monkey fuck.","attachment":null,"posted":1715583098},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313259,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312623
Not really. The raw or .dng (digital negative) file just contains the data off the sensor. But the sensors data, just like a film negative, is not an accurate finished image that perfectly resembles the orig scene, it still requires developing to get it to that point, and along the way the image-maker must make all the choices of how they want the final image to look. Without going into technical specifics, trying to view an undeveloped film or digital neg is silly, bc they were engineered to be raw materials ready for more processing, not for your eyeballs to read as photographic truth. There is no such thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1715583814},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313260,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313257
shooting jpgs is for people for whom having a camera is about lifestyle branding, not photography. Shooting jpgs means their intent is to never print. Their photos go directly from the sd card to their instagram. They would be happy to use their phone, but a camera says they are 'artistic' and 'mindful', they truly appreciate a moment and have a vision. They describe themselves as a "creative".

Shooting jpgs is to photography the equivalent of what being the guy who shows up at parties with a guitar is to music","attachment":null,"posted":1715583876},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313261,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313259
>doesn't understand the post he's responding too
>doesn't actually know what he's talking about
>still thinks he's an expert
classic /p/ post, welcome aboard newfriend","attachment":null,"posted":1715584141},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313263,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313259
>Without going into technical specifics,
Nope. U didnt post everything there is to know about the subject in one post, therefore u no nuthing. u r so stoopid, i smart, not u. durr hurr hurrr heeeeeehawwwww","attachment":null,"posted":1715584758},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313273,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"brand over substance, feeds the gear machine that youtube photographers fall into, doesn't really add anything useful, ie he captures rather than creates value, his paid reviews of peoples work are often simplistic and he fails to grasp intent in shots and only sees what he would have been looking for. Gets wrapped up in old projects or photos he took that genuinely arent that impressive, and stumbles into specialised fields when reviewing and misses key info or techniques. Oh and his recent film posts on insta have been fucking horrific. Several of the baseball clubs in MLB have people doing what he's doing but better and more often, without the wanking, cause its just sports marketing at the end of the day","attachment":null,"posted":1715592910},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313279,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312612
raw files should be obsolete at this point. HEIF has a lossless profile that could compress all the data with zero modification.","attachment":null,"posted":1715595363},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313292,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313279
T. Cope","attachment":null,"posted":1715601908},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313296,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313260
You're right.
Shooting jpegs is fun, and devoid of any friction.
Just shoot and enjoy.
I love my fuji for that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715604506},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313297,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313142
doubt.jpg","attachment":null,"posted":1715604640},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313325,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313279
Nope, HEIF contains an order of magnitude less data. This totally fucks you if you are an actual photographer who does retouching and dodge and burn. I know the fujislug/digislug cope these days is you shouldn't but if you believe in photographic reality you are a clown. Photographs have never been reality from the moment of exposure. And if you are a "camera operator" winogrand style purist who only cares about location and timing - you aren't an artist, you have no soul. You are a ceepy voyeuristic goblin or go back to square one - snapshitter who might as well use a phome.

Anything short of 14 bit raw is unironically worse than film
And I'd prefer 16 bit raw and medium format digital or 45/61mp FF because a thorough scan of quality stock like portra 160 is still dangerously close to a 14 bit 36mp FF RAW, and sometimes it exceeds it if the fine detail happens to be one of the many general patterns bayer and xtrans can not cope with.
>inb4 digicope about color gamuts and scanning film properly being too hard/"enlargers cant resolve le fine detail" (false, get a job and buy a good one)
yes, CFAs have a wider color gamut than film layers, but this does not actually matter unless you are using medium format digital+pixel shift to scan real art ie paintings and historical frescoes","attachment":null,"posted":1715615761},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313333,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ι don't hate him, he is the realest one out there.
Photography is a dying art and too many promote themselves as photographers simply for owning an iphone.","attachment":null,"posted":1715617460},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313358,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312609
>Claims to be in the gym every day but has arms like a 17 year old who's been training for a month
not everyone wants to bulk up though
he's not fat
maybe he goes to do cardio and basic maintenance to not get fat
all he has to do is hold cameras and lenses up he isn't a construction worker hauling heavy loads so idk what you expect

>-Editing skills are heavy-handed and pretty awful
>-Presets also look awful. What he calls 'Skittles', I call oversaturated garbage.
kek
I want to buy lightroom and his presets and apply skittles to skittles then get a refund when they no longer look like skittles
but I don't use adobe software so it's too much work
also LR is rental only so fuck that","attachment":null,"posted":1715624637},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313370,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313333
Checked, photography will be relict of past.
Something like medieval swordfighting or smithing, only autist will remain.
Soon AI will be good enough to stitch multi-exposure photo from multiple smartphone sensor, with perfect imitation bokeh and all the shit you will want.
Will it be truest representation of realiy? ofc no, but most people won't care so it will win in long run.
Maybe small larp single lens cameras like fuji x100 will remain, for zoomies to have fun.
But photography is done for.","attachment":null,"posted":1715627607},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313370
"Photography is done for, this consoomer shit is good enuff" has been repeated countless times for the past 20 fucking years but it's never actually been done for
Because it's never actually been good enough except for the normie-minus class that is incapable of being discerning. Their brains function at a lower level and basically filter the additional info out - if your theory of mind can't comprehend this, imagine a jar of beans. Highly intelligent people will make a more accurate guess regarding the number of beans in the jar. A worker-breeder class man who thinks a phone is good enough or even the same as a camera has a stronger filter in their mind so the jar of beans is a single unit.

What actually died was standalone normie visual-notetakers and you normies and sub-midwits have been lamenting it every day every year and calling that shit "photography", but "autists" are a larger percentage of the population than you think. Because when you say "autist", you mean people 1SD+ ahead of the avg IQ. These are the cultural ubermensch. The people with discerning taste. The people whose brains are running smoothly and quickly enough to notice the little things and conceive of abstract aesthetic values.

These people are never going away, so "real photogaphy" isn't either. We CAN'T go away - at least not without everyone suffering greatly. Society depends on the midwits+ class to run basic services like education, healthcare, the justice system, government, advanced manufacturing, etc. Society depends on the midwits+ class to progress. It encompasses the genius class, but also people you probably never thought of - the hordes of undergrads, techs, and assistants that help make genius ideas into practical reality.

Also, high end cameras are a glorified offshoot of industrial and medical imaging so the R&D is always going to be there as long as we have a decent civilization.

inb4 normie minuses post jealous hatred and mockery directed at the midwit pluses","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715628441354620.png","filename":"REVERSION TO THE MEAN REVERSION TO THE MEAN REVERSION.png"},"posted":1715628441},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313375,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313374
"midwit pluses" get so neurotic and insecure about not being geniuses that if anyone is mocking them it's the burnouts among them being perpetually salty about not being first place","attachment":null,"posted":1715628508},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313370
You do realize medieval swordfighting is an olympic sport for rich sons and daughters of PhDs now correct?

Photography has a lower barrier of entry than that. Its a 105+ IQ thing. You’re not into high IQ photography until you have 5+ strobe studio work.","attachment":null,"posted":1715629189},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313385,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313374
>We CAN'T go away - at least not without everyone suffering greatly
Who is John Galt?","attachment":null,"posted":1715631216},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313394,"name":"Zach","msg":">>4312332
His personality is a little bit obnoxious. I like the old version of him who was a little bit more humble and quiet. He makes good video though. I watched two of his camera guides with Todd Wolfe.","attachment":null,"posted":1715632323},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313402,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313385
Elon Musk’s secret idol.","attachment":null,"posted":1715633134},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313403,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Reminder to doomsayers: Dip nibs, quills, reeds, fountain pens, bottled ink, papyrus, and vellum are still produced on an industrial scale.","attachment":null,"posted":1715633319},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313410,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313402
>builds short lived overpriced “cars” with remote killswitches and explosive power cells that can be triggered using the cars own systems
>markets them to the collectivist liberal elite
>provides internet service to russian troops, as a joke
jej","attachment":null,"posted":1715634371},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313713,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4312332
I've only seen one video of his, I don't like his attitude.","attachment":null,"posted":1715710544},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313955,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313358
>not everyone wants to bulk up though
>he's not fat
He's not fat but he flexes and talks about his 'guns' pretty regularly.

I've never touched lightroom but I do everything in Adobe Camera Raw. My work pays my Adobe subscription though. I woul;dn't pay it.","attachment":null,"posted":1715769150},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313976,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"As much as I hate him, at least he's genuine in his shittyness.
This guy on the other hand, doesn't have a single genuine bone in his body.
And it got so much worse when he hopped on the film trend (at least 5 years too late, mind you) and went on to hail himself as the film photography messiah after speed running the hobby right into a Leica M6.
Absolute scumbag that I wish nothing but the worst on.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715776273699533.jpg","filename":"channels4_profile.jpg"},"posted":1715776273},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4313994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313976
His recent videos clearly show how done he is with photography. He's bored, doesn't really care anymore and wants to escape this niche so bad. Understandable.","attachment":null,"posted":1715779246},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4314165,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313976
To this day I have no idea why peter is so popular. He's an average youtuber and while his photos are great I just don't know why people worship him. Is it because of his faux deepness?","attachment":null,"posted":1715810444},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4314398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Tippytoes","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715870863705610.jpg","filename":"PXL_20221118_165758669-1.jpg"},"posted":1715870863},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4314455,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314398
What the actual fuck is the purpose of this
stitching for MAXIMUM resolution?","attachment":null,"posted":1715884819},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4314579,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314455
it's necessary to take a picture of just ONE of my balls","attachment":null,"posted":1715908231},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4314782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314579
Impressive
Do you have an OF so we can see","attachment":null,"posted":1715972795},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4314795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314398
neat","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715974543033061.png","filename":"1.png"},"posted":1715974543},{"board":"p","thread":4312332,"pid":4314797,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4313142
Based","attachment":null,"posted":1715975166}]} {"title":"Macro lenses","posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I just found out these can be really useful for more than just macro, which I found out that are great for getting a 1:1 ratio on your subject.

What I didn't know is something like a 105mm/2.8 also makes an outstanding portrait lens along with even an all-around good prime lens. Also typically it'll be cheaper than a similar fast lens.

Is this really the best type of lens for all pictures until you need some kind of zoom?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1714623811013716.jpg","filename":"hero_NikonMC105f2-8_82691-2-945x532@2x.jpg"},"posted":1714623811},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Effectively all macro means is that the lens can focus closer. It's just a normal lens other than that","attachment":null,"posted":1714627360},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309483
Thanks. I figured that out way longer than I should have.","attachment":null,"posted":1714627576},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309489,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309479
The tradeoff is that they are bigger heavier and more expensive and not as fast as a non-macro. You can usually find 70-200 zooms that are just as fast as ~100mm macros. They're good lenses but some find them a bit clinical for portraits in particular. I like using mine as a general purpose lens though, and 2.8 is fast enough for me most of the time. That said 1:1 is incredibly close and niche, if you don't do macro I'd just get a fast prime.","attachment":null,"posted":1714630921},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309569,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309489
I currently use a 24-120/4 lens for macro and I only get maybe 40% of my subject so yeah I would use it as a macro lens. I love going for hikes and taking pictures of little bugs and critters, mushrooms etc. very interesting things and much easier and cheaper to shoot than birds. Someday I’ll have to save up for something zoomy and lightweight like the 400/4.5 from Nikon.","attachment":null,"posted":1714672624},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309575,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309489
Often. The 100/2.8 screwdrive tokina is relatively small, light and cheap and has the great AF/MF focus clutch.","attachment":null,"posted":1714673792},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309577,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309483
Autofocus is way slower and hunting can be brutal. Notice the limiter switch has no third position for 0.5m+.

It was nice of them to include the control ring that belonged on the 20/24/35/50/85 set I guess? It's kind of stupid that only some lenses have that - meanwhile the focus rings on the lenses without it are overly large. It should be standard. I set it to ISO in stills instead of using nikon's ever-clunky auto ISO/min SS setting system, and then I grab a lens that doesn't use it and i go to turn an ISO ring that isn't there. Once you get used to the ring half the Z lineup seems crippled.

Also it's nice for aperture pulls doing boomer home movies without giving up instant MF. Nikon Z will not really be a complete system until they revise the ergonomics of control-ringless lenses (and 40/28 weather sealing), release premium 2.8 primes again, and release a 70-200 f4 like lense (but different, if they could pack 70-300 f4 into an internally zooming VR lens with 1:2 macro it would be boss)","attachment":null,"posted":1714674108},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309479
most macro lenses actually lose stops of light as they focus closer, starting at pedestrian distances such as 1:5 reproduction ratios, because of the unique design principles. at mfd this is a t4.5 lense.

the Z cameras auto-correct the AE for it, but you are getting less light if you focus closer than the average long prime could","attachment":null,"posted":1714674797},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309619,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309580
>but you are getting less light if you focus closer than the average long prime could
That's a pointless comparison, you CAN'T focus closer on average long primes.
>the Z cameras auto-correct the AE
As does F, the aperture is automatically reduced as you focus closer, at least with the lens I have. It really does not matter anyway, you do not want to shoot 1:1 at f/2.8.","attachment":null,"posted":1714683992},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309622,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309619
Why not? I’m stupid.","attachment":null,"posted":1714684461},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309623,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309622
You actually have the DOF of f2.8 at 1:1

It's the light transmission of f4.5","attachment":null,"posted":1714684514},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309623
So it doesn’t really matter then when using a tripod or additional lighting.","attachment":null,"posted":1714693048},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309483
Not quite. A macro lens has better control of distortion especially when you focus closer. Regular lenses are not optimized for that.","attachment":null,"posted":1714708033},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4309692,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309622
Because the DoF will be so shallow as to be useless.

>>4309623
I don't, the aperture gets reduced to around f/5.6 at close focus.","attachment":null,"posted":1714716149},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4310147,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309479
What do you mean by 1:1 ratio on your subject?","attachment":null,"posted":1714848784},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4310163,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310147
It means you can take a picture of a subject that is the size of your camera sensor and it will fill up the whole frame of the picture.","attachment":null,"posted":1714852784},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4310253,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4310147
It means the image projected onto the sensor is true to life size, a one to one representation. So for example if you took a picture of a ruler at 1:1 focus, one cm on the ruler will be one cm on the sensor. This of course does not mean it will be 1cm in your image, depending on resolution and cropping and whatever else you may do to the resulting image. Generally considered the minimum for a proper macro lens, despite manufacturers putting 1:2s out there and calling them “macro”.","attachment":null,"posted":1714864564},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4311773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309479
I have a Canon 35mm F2.8 macro lens with a built-in ring light, absolutely love it as a general purpose lens. Plus it takes fantastic bug pics.

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great shot!","attachment":null,"posted":1715216150},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4311847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309479
You know what I like op, shooting with the Nik Z 50 macro but sticking a stack of extension tubes under it anyway, getting a 2:1 magnification without any added distortion. Go out on the lawn and shoot the strange world in the grass jungle.","attachment":null,"posted":1715218574},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4314581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4311773
how are you getting that close without bugs flying away with a 35","attachment":null,"posted":1715908298},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4314612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314581
just bee handsome","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715916197708242.png","filename":"1714441233452466.png"},"posted":1715916197},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4314616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309479
they tend to not do too hot at or near infinity","attachment":null,"posted":1715917218},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4314670,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4309479
I wish fast Macro lenses were more popular
Reminder to all of you that Tamron's current lens lineup was originally going to also include a 300mm f/2.8 VC USD with 1:1 macro","attachment":null,"posted":1715944057},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4314672,"name":"cANON","msg":">>4314670
>a 300mm f/2.8 VC USD with 1:1 macro
Would it have actually been 300mm at 1:1 or would they have cheated using focus breathing?","attachment":null,"posted":1715944822},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4314683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314672
It wasn't specified but that would require the minimum focus distance to be 0.6 meters which would require the lens itself to be quite compact for its rated speed","attachment":null,"posted":1715950205},{"board":"p","thread":4309479,"pid":4314818,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314670
fast macros don't make sense","attachment":null,"posted":1715979667}]} {"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314491,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">mfw a pocket "camera" faggot insist that I take them seriously as photographers","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715892791782548.jpg","filename":"1715804694864917.jpg"},"posted":1715892791},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314491
The Fuji thread was one up, numbnuts.","attachment":null,"posted":1715893084},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314496,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":"cry about it","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715893291511864.jpg","filename":"gotta snap fast.jpg"},"posted":1715893291},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314498,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314496
>motion blur
Will never be featured in a museum 200 years from now","attachment":null,"posted":1715893369},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314508,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4314498
your mom wont be featured in a museum 200 years from now","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715895365566391.jpg","filename":"S007I006.jpg"},"posted":1715895365},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314520,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314508
we'll see about THAT
Unrel but did you hear about the new Panasonic S9?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715897556561211.png","filename":"10-GM1-vs-S9.png"},"posted":1715897556},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314491
Based
Same with crop sensor fags.
>Muh reech","attachment":null,"posted":1715897776},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314523,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314520
>not EVF","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/p/1715897981563590.jpg","filename":"1517185348166.jpg"},"posted":1715897981},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314527,"name":"fe2fucker","msg":">>4314520
have you heard of the nikon e2s?

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wow just needed a canon lens to be ultimate alliance of shitters","attachment":null,"posted":1715898737},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314527
I heard he's a pretty cool guy","attachment":null,"posted":1715899467},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314556,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314523
yeah no evf, no mech shutter, s5ii sensor...
seems like Panasonic tried hard to create a Sigma Fp competitor","attachment":null,"posted":1715904018},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314570,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314556
Jfc even the a7cr has a whole shutter","attachment":null,"posted":1715905516},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314573,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314570
It has half a shutter","attachment":null,"posted":1715907279},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314491
>mfw another faggot posts a photoless thread","attachment":null,"posted":1715952995},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314491
This but phone","attachment":null,"posted":1715975228},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314804,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314491
Post a good photo","attachment":null,"posted":1715976859},{"board":"p","thread":4314491,"pid":4314840,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>4314491
>pocket "camera"
It's a poor man's poor man's poor man's Leica.","attachment":null,"posted":1715983667}]}