{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1977411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What are your thoughts on Embraer? what is the future of the company? What do you hope they accomplish?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1706822559156103.jpg","filename":"IMG_0125.jpg"},"posted":1706822559},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1977414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They didn't fly so good.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1706823502429429.jpg","filename":"5942828652_df15a7f0b8_b.jpg"},"posted":1706823502},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1977415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977411
>What are your thoughts on Embraer?
I haven't flown on one yet
>what is the future of the company?
Continuing to be the RJ guys
>What do you hope they accomplish?
Better RJs","attachment":null,"posted":1706823518},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1977449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977411
Flew one of these from PDX to MSP, sleek plane, nice seating (no middle seats), fast","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1706834931598667.jpg","filename":"E175.jpg"},"posted":1706834931},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1977536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Embraer is to Boeing what Bombardier is to Airbus.
Natural monopolies, nationalist protectionism, too big to fail, etc.
/thread","attachment":null,"posted":1706856892},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1977537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977449
Is this a 190?","attachment":null,"posted":1706857197},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1977550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"would like them to move into manufacturing 150-200 seats class.
I'm not dissatisfied with Airbus, but the quality is excellent, so I'd like it to be developed as a third option.","attachment":null,"posted":1706866688},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1977557,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977537
filename","attachment":null,"posted":1706874259},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1977563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977537
Nah, that's a Tupolev 204","attachment":null,"posted":1706883822},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1978516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Much nicer to fly than CRJs
t. typed on both","attachment":null,"posted":1707334142},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1978560,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1978516
The E2's are the quietest planes on the current market.","attachment":null,"posted":1707349161},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1978898,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i miss seeing 135s everywhere to be honest, they just had such a cool look, 145s are still around in some places but they arent the same","attachment":null,"posted":1707524683},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1980273,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977411
>What are your thoughts on Embraer?
Good planes
>what is the future of the company?
Realistically? More RJs and potentially that eVTOL they're developing
>What do you hope they accomplish?
Get successful enough to produce a big airliner","attachment":null,"posted":1708208410},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1980288,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1978560
for whom? pilots, passengers, ramp rats or citizens near airport?","attachment":null,"posted":1708213702},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1980294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980288
https://simpleflying.com/embraer-e2-quiet/
>In comparison to other narrowbodies on the market, the Embraer E2 successfully outclasses them all. Its close competitor, the Airbus A220-300, is 11% nosier when measured in EMPdB than the E195-E2.","attachment":null,"posted":1708215919},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1980326,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They have a window of opportunity to go big as Boeing is currently failing. I doubt they will seize it though. It would require a ton of capital than neither them nor the Brazilian government can easily gather. I think it's more realistic for COMAC to eventually replace Boeing. The CCP is willing to dump money in COMAC for decades until they make it.","attachment":null,"posted":1708249731},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1981052,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">E175
it's a fucking goblin plane designed by huemonkeys for 5'2" subhumans
you can't even stand up from an aisle seat without smashing your head on the overhead bin. don't even fucking bother getting up from a window seat or you're dead
fuck those planes
t. 5'10 court jester","attachment":null,"posted":1708506599},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1981097,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I think their cockpits are ugly. I’m sure they’re fine jets","attachment":null,"posted":1708534972},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1981111,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980326
>The CCP is willing to dump money in COMAC for decades until they make it
So is the US Government with Boeing, Xiang.","attachment":null,"posted":1708537704},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1981169,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1981052
are you fat or something?","attachment":null,"posted":1708551761},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1981734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://aeroin.net/a-embraer-pode-produzir-avioes-maiores-mas-nao-temos-planos-de-fazer-isso-agora-diz-ceo/
>Embraer can produce larger planes, but we have no plans to do so now","attachment":null,"posted":1708808564},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1981769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977411
Boeing wanted to form a partnership (which would probably lead to their acquisition down the line) since they can actually design planes. It didn't concretize.
Realistically, they could make a B737 or A320 competitor, but it doesn't make sense at the moment. Their best shot is to have something for the ~2035-40 since that's where we expect the stretched A220 to come out to replace the A320 and news about A321 replacement, which should be a new plane using the CFM RISE.","attachment":null,"posted":1708815608},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1982908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977411
i like them and their planes
more competition is always good and i hope they make a big plane","attachment":null,"posted":1709313504},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1983282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977411
Stupid ass bike handlebar yoke but other than that its pretty good. Easy to fly, good for passengers","attachment":null,"posted":1709510018},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1984572,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1983282
The most based plane ever made has that yoke.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710115002333825.jpg","filename":"Cockpit_of_Hawker_Siddeley_Trident.jpg"},"posted":1710115002},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1985285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1983282
Only the regional jets have that.
The defense and executive ones are all joysticks.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710468534478332.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1710468534},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1985617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980326
No one is buying chink airliners shit in the west ever","attachment":null,"posted":1710628347},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1985734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"First E-Jet is still flying to this day.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710691233475454.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1710691233},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1985756,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985734
And the original A320 was active until 2017, 30 years of flying before being preserved and repainted to its original colors
https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/airbus-a320-100-f-wwai-airbus-industrie/e54273","attachment":null,"posted":1710709241},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1985758,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985734
what are the plans for old regional jets? Wide bodies get converted into cargo planes, but I'm curious if these old E-jets will follow the same path or just get scrapped for parts.","attachment":null,"posted":1710710555},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1985869,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985758
Also cargo planes.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710793465961157.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1710793465},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1985929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985869
who's buying them? Fedex, Amazon, or smaller and lesser known delivery companies?","attachment":null,"posted":1710834653},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1985977,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985929
Idk. Smaller ones i guess?","attachment":null,"posted":1710860459},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1985987,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985756
>testing plane
Impressive, very nice. Let's see the oldest revenue A320.","attachment":null,"posted":1710866538},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1986021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985987
https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/airbus-a320-200-zs-gar-global-aviation/egx8v3
Started with Braniff, 1989, 35 years old
Autre question?","attachment":null,"posted":1710882932},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1986779,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977411
I use to work on this plane a lot(E175), it was honestly my favorite plane. I flew on it a decent amount of times as well. Fairly comfortable.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711214550392350.jpg","filename":"n186sy-alaska-airlines-embraer-erj-175lr-erj-170-200-lr_PlanespottersNet_1528088_a7b9d827be_o.jpg"},"posted":1711214550},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1986794,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1986779
I heard that mechanics love working on embraer planes.","attachment":null,"posted":1711219796},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1986982,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"*kinos behind you*","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711299069046806.jpg","filename":"71631_big.jpg"},"posted":1711299069},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1987117,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1986982
>5 APU jet
Those things are a bit spooky to watch takeoff in hot/high conditions","attachment":null,"posted":1711332985},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1988091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1981052
I'm 6'0 and just took a flight on a J-Air (Japan airlines subsidiary) E175.
The overhead bin is indeed very low, but interior was extremely spacious. Loads more legroom and width than a 737 or a320.
Part of it is probably the JAL configuration, but some of it is also due to the dimensions of the aircraft naturally forcing airlines to fit much bigger seats than typical economy on narrowbodies.
Pretty confy so you're completely wrong","attachment":null,"posted":1711657700},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1989721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"First E-Freighter flew today.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712332989139854.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1712332989},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1989890,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1977411
Embraer makes some really sturdy airframes considering what air astana 1388 or air serbia asl86c erj survived through, or how an embraer legacy private jet managed to land safely after cutting off an entire boing 737 wing in a mid air collision.","attachment":null,"posted":1712417421},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1990042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989890
>sturdy airframes
I realized something awhile ago, do airplane manufacturers or airliners ever advertise their products or services as being safe, similar to what car companies do?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712477977179694.png","filename":"1700783508113952.png"},"posted":1712477977},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1990162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1978898
>imagine","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712531529108560.jpg","filename":"EMB145Amazon.jpg"},"posted":1712531529},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1990183,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990042
boeing is literally on record as saying safety is not part of their business model","attachment":null,"posted":1712538231},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1992301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980326
>replacing Boeing
Pure delusion. Sure, they are complete retards for listening to their customers and beating the type into something it isn’t rather than creating a new narrow body. They aren’t going anywhere.","attachment":null,"posted":1713610893},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1992530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992301
It is not entirely unfeasible that Boeing gets forced out of the commercial space. I would say its likely that they are morally irredeemable and will not be able to ever operate again out of goodwill. Their greed and maliciousness occasionally can find self-interested excuses to pursue quality and safety, but overall they will always be looking to cut corners and put people's lives in jeopardy to make a little more money. They shouldn't be allowed in the airspace of a country with a self-respecting regulatory agency, but the fact is the risk is tolerated because the alternative is a complete breakdown of a crucial utility industry.
And if they actually had to face the consequences of the full breadth of their malfeasance (murdering a whistleblower was bold to say the least) Boeing would disappear completely.
BUT, in the very rare event Boeing is allowed to die its deserved death, whatever steps up to compete with Airbus will simply be a revived or new American firm that inherits the US airliner manufacturing capacity. Brazil, China, Indonesia etc. they are not going to be making widebody airliners that can actually compete with Airbus in our lifetimes. Brazil could probably outdo Boeing, but that still leaves a lot of room between "better than Boeing" and "acceptable" that still isn't up to a 21st century standard.","attachment":null,"posted":1713716728},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1992941,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1978898
145s are my favorite when I'm solo flying because the entire plane is 1-2 Economy seating. I don't have to choose between window and aisle and it doesn't cost the price of a first class ticket either.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713912978383360.jpg","filename":"0a1f2ea64455ffc2a33f542504a3cfc5[1].jpg"},"posted":1713912978},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1992942,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984572
ftfy","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713913090466047.jpg","filename":"RgIyo[1].jpg"},"posted":1713913090},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1992951,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989721
for what purpose?
just by volume
757's can carry 15 mail pallet units
767's can carry 24 units
747's can carry 35 units
the ATR can carry 7 units
FedEx paid for most of the C408 R&D to replace the C208 on their feeder routes and needed it to carry at least three units
What advantage does a
>light
>narrow
>small-engined
>different type
give to cargo companies who can just buy surplus 75/76, 777, and now A330's for the rest of the century?","attachment":null,"posted":1713919525},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989721
https://twitter.com/embraer/status/1785048077117911443 was that a test flight? Their communication is confusing.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714424387113992.jpg","filename":"1691083054485183.jpg"},"posted":1714424387},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994293,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994290
Yea, it was their first flight.
>>1992951
The national mail company in Brazil has interest.
Also there's a fuckton of F190's in poorfag countries that could use it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714424776},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994295,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992942
>only picture of the Concorde was by a stripped down fighter jet only after the Concorde slowed to 1.5M.
It will never be like that again.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714424893889242.jpg","filename":"Concorde-Supersonic.jpg"},"posted":1714424893},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994296,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992951
>give to cargo companies who can just buy surplus 75/76, 777, and now A330's for the rest of the century?
There won't be enough surplus.","attachment":null,"posted":1714424954},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994297,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992951
light and narrow body airplanes are able to land in smaller airports and in cities with stringent noise pollution laws.","attachment":null,"posted":1714425148},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714503424763833.jpg","filename":"emb def.jpg"},"posted":1714503424},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994457,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994451
https://embraer.com/global/en/media Do you browse their media gallery? They upload wallpapers every wednesday that people can download.","attachment":null,"posted":1714505685},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994471,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994457
nta but that's awesome","attachment":null,"posted":1714509017},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994471
I couldn't find any wall papers to post here since they're all over 4m. But there are some awesome photos there. You used to be able to sort it by airlines but they got rid of it for some reason.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714510464486588.jpg","filename":"1700641703416156.jpg"},"posted":1714510464},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/boeing-partner-embraer-aircraft-manufacturing-edf3758a it's happening","attachment":null,"posted":1714617961},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994688,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994679
They already denied it, though they did announced studies for it last year.","attachment":null,"posted":1714622988},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994738,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984572
Those motorcycle style yokes look retarded.","attachment":null,"posted":1714658299},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994755,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994457
I know, the Brazilian Air Force has something similar on their website, lots of KINO pics.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714665114935444.jpg","filename":"A-1AM.jpg"},"posted":1714665114},{"board":"n","thread":1977411,"pid":1994831,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994297
>what is the ATR
>what is the C408
>what is the C208
>what is the CRJ-200","attachment":null,"posted":1714699720}]}
{"title":"BOOM","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984125,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You WILL fly supersonic this decade","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1709929474639541.jpg","filename":"boom.jpg"},"posted":1709929474},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't think so, fuels costs will translate to ticket costs.
And I always go for the cheapest tickets.","attachment":null,"posted":1709929608},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984128,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I haven't flown in over a decade","attachment":null,"posted":1709930136},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
I was deep into "flying cars" 2015-2019 so I am familiar with startup scams and this is one of them. They have hoovered up so much venture capital yet have never flown a single thing. The whole idea is almost as dumb as flying cars anyway. It's too expensive and not environmentally friendly. Idk how anyone is falling for this.","attachment":null,"posted":1709931204},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984134
It's because the bizjet market is doing insanely well lately. I don't think normies realize just how bad it is because most of it is in and out of completely different airports that normies never see. Venture capital sees how much money rich people have for flying, remember the trick to VC is you throw a tiny amount (couple billion) at any/all moonshot type stuff that might have a slightly more than tiny chance at succeeding, and if you play the odds right you still come out ahead even if most of your ventures fail","attachment":null,"posted":1709933909},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984183,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
No I wont.","attachment":null,"posted":1709942016},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984134
They're targeting businesses that need to fly out engineers across the world to fix some machine that generates tens or hundreds of millions of dollars a week. The tech has been done before, so it's not some pie in the sky idea.","attachment":null,"posted":1710012264},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
>normal shape that does nothing about sonic booms
>no engine manufacturer
why did this get funded?","attachment":null,"posted":1710012355},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984385,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984357
gotta spend other peoples' money to make money haha. wanna buy a nft?","attachment":null,"posted":1710023454},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984357
>normal shape that does nothing about sonic booms
There are still other issues. the original plan called for a maximum speed of M2.2, but this was lowered to M1.7 at some point.
this was because no heat-resistant material could be found to replace Concorde's aluminum.
Amazed at the lack of planning by this company, which launched the project and tried to raise money without even thinking about such a problem.","attachment":null,"posted":1710046864},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984488,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
>cramped tube for J class prices but it goes fast
>comfy lie-flat seat with decent food for the same price or less
Hmm, I don't think I will.","attachment":null,"posted":1710080671},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984499,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984488
Honestly the comfort increase in the 787 and A350 over prior models was shocking, I wish they'd try to modernize their fleets with what already works rather than wasting money (and thus pushing the losses onto customers) trying to shave a couple hours off New York to London for the ultra-rich.","attachment":null,"posted":1710084035},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984570,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984488
>>1984499
They are both cramped tubes. People who really care about comfort want to spend as little time in the sky as possible.","attachment":null,"posted":1710114870},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984580,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984355
what machine?
all I think of is saudi oil rig and jews trading computer and all of those have on site engineer","attachment":null,"posted":1710119572},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984134
>The whole idea is almost as dumb as flying cars anyway.
Halving transcontinental flight time is a "dumb idea"? Go cross an ocean in a tiny Honda jet then and see you in one day or whenever you're done with your multiple refueling stops.","attachment":null,"posted":1710132609},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984570
Cramped tube isn't too bad if you aren't obese and aren't having the life force sucked out of you by 10% RH air at 70% of sea level pressure.","attachment":null,"posted":1710166923},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984689,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984656
was that one of epstein's codephrases","attachment":null,"posted":1710180498},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984861,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
Great! We almost catching up with 70s tech!","attachment":null,"posted":1710248933},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984898,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984580
>all I think of is saudi oil rig
retarded idea, i know
but can a human skydive from a supersonic plane?
then all you'd need to do is fly over the rig, let the engineers hop out and hope they know how to land","attachment":null,"posted":1710261754},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984900,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984134
I'm rooting for explosion overtness to succeed against my better judgment. It's a wholly untested design so there are bound to be at least a couple of comfy major disasters","attachment":null,"posted":1710263518},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984906,"name":"BaconRider","msg":"What is the cruising speed of the Bombardier Global 7000?
It has achieved a speed of Mach 0.995
,,,,soclose!!
,,9000 mile range.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710265368356274.jpg","filename":"endurance.jpg"},"posted":1710265368},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1984908,"name":"BaconRider","msg":">>1984906
>It has achieved a speed of Mach 0.995
runtofront,,,supersonic!@","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710265779876678.jpg","filename":"speedzone.jpg"},"posted":1710265779},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1985160,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
Americans can’t build airplanes. Boom will go boom, just like boeing.","attachment":null,"posted":1710409668},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1985267,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985160
>Boom will go boom
Are you implying they will fly supersonic some day? I don't think they will ever fly actual plane.","attachment":null,"posted":1710462943},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1985525,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984154
Man, I need to start up a business scamming rich people.","attachment":null,"posted":1710601176},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1985527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I doubt it. Realistically it would take at least 15 years to rediscover this forgotten technology","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710601725155094.jpg","filename":"130611013405-hong-kong-kai-tak-concorde.jpg"},"posted":1710601725},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1985543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why do techbros measure aviation progress only in speed?
>civilian aviation is stagnating beause Concorde was grounded
Yeah, just ignore that today flights cost like 25€ and are safer than ever before. Bonus if they claim state regulation killed supersonic, not the fact it was massively expensive for passeners and still burning cash for the airlines.","attachment":null,"posted":1710608359},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1985563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"There are many billionaires around the world who would be willing to pay $10 million for space travel. if so, there are people who would buy a ticket for a supersonic flight with a capacity of 30 people, and there are people who would buy an entire plane.
There is a demand, although BOOM is a scam.","attachment":null,"posted":1710613634},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1986507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985563
10 million for trip to space is one time fee. The thing with supersonic airliner or business jet is that bill to develop it is billions. Business jet would probably be fine with engines nicked from a fighter, but airliner definitely won't be so engine development is going to cost billions. Handful millionaires, even when if couple billionaires would join 'em, don't have enough money to fork upfront to economically uncertain project like supersonic airliner or business jet. There simply isn't enough guaranteed demand for supersonic plane to justify economic risks involved.
Boom lost its engine on moment Rolls-Royce told them fork over the money for engine development. Rolls-Royce made gigantic mistake with Boom, they were willing to do feasibility study new supersonic engine without asking them to pay for all related expenses. If they had done so, they would have never had any kind of engine proposal at all. What RR did wrong is giving any ounce of credibility to these photoshop peddlers.","attachment":null,"posted":1711117788},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1986516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985543
Us Burgers can hardly pay for a flight that is under $250 these days, exceptions are things like NYC - Philadelphia or Miami - Orlando.","attachment":null,"posted":1711122009},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1989149,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985543
>flights cost like 25€
>doesn't include the myriad of additional charges
Also,
>the fact it was massively expensive for passeners and still burning cash for the airlines
Passengers loved it and the airlines made a profit from it. The Concorde was unprofitable only for the manufacturer.","attachment":null,"posted":1712071751},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1989172,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984134
you'll not find anyone more skeptical of startup scams and venture capitalism and all the rest of it than me, but this seems a far cry from the flying car nonsense. if i had to place a bet, i would say that Boom will not succeed but flying cars were complete bullshit from the get go, even moreso than fully autonomous car hype","attachment":null,"posted":1712085124},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1989173,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985525
you need to be rich first","attachment":null,"posted":1712085313},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1989275,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989172
Yeah you would have had to be a child at the time or else clinically retarded to fall for flying car crap, they're basically just helicopters or light aircraft made to look like cars.Did anyone seriously think it would be cost or regulatory feasible to own a helicopter with wheels which they'll be able to fly themselves and take off/ land in their suburban street?","attachment":null,"posted":1712119728},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1989277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
I sure hope so. Like Bacon said, the Global FTV5 demonstrator reached Mach 0.995, and NASA needs to get their X59 outta that fuckin hangar and in the air before I die of old age. I think eventually the focus will be more on supersonic route optimization rather than trying to blast your way across the continental US or western Europe at Mach 2.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712120777690493.jpg","filename":"afrc2016-0093-070.jpg"},"posted":1712120777},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1989494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"So anyone riding these will be Boomers?","attachment":null,"posted":1712225171},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1989588,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13271891/futuristic-jet-replace-boeing-faa-approval-spacex.html","attachment":null,"posted":1712264056},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1989711,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
Wasn't the discontinuation of Concorde down to it being economically inefficient?
Won't this just fall into the same trap?","attachment":null,"posted":1712325074},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1989753,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989711
Airbus declined to continue to support the Concorde. A certified aircraft without manufacturer support is scrap.","attachment":null,"posted":1712344195},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1989817,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
Why do you think Boom won't fail the same way Aerion did?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712371600983022.jpg","filename":"Aerion-NetJets-1-min-scaled.jpg"},"posted":1712371600},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1990846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989753
I think one of the big issues was re-engining. It used the same 1960s-era afterburning turbojets it did back when it was first designed. However, there wasn't any newer engine available that could do the job. So it was eventually decided to pull the plug on support.","attachment":null,"posted":1712810886},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1990857,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Considering that Olympus593 was developed in the 60's, 50 years of advances in metallurgical technology could improve the fuel efficiency of the engine by about 20%","attachment":null,"posted":1712819412},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1990871,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989711
Concorde was economically inefficient because it was built in the 1960's. An old airframe with inefficient engines that guzzled fuel.
A newer design can be more efficient; in fact the Concorde B was always planned to be built which would have had a more efficient wing profile and engines (no afterburners) and used much less fuel, but it obviously never got built because nobody bought the original.","attachment":null,"posted":1712837682},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1990872,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990857
>only 20%
They already knew how to increase efficiency in the 593 by 25% back in the 70's. They just never built them because nobody needed them.
https://www.heritageconcorde.com/concorde-b","attachment":null,"posted":1712837827},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1992771,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
a-and i VILL be happy right?
>>1984126
even during concorde was only meant for rich people, the tech will become more affordable with time as with everything else","attachment":null,"posted":1713830700},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1995129,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I am going to bump to say that the XB-1 has flown twice and has not exceeded Mach 1. It might be too early to call, but after nearly seven years of delays, I think Boom is looking more like Bust.
In all honesty, we are best looking more comfortable aircraft with a wider range of performance than these supersonic jobs. Essentially create an "almost anywhere" airliner that seats 300+ passengers, needs 5000' or less for takeoff and landing and can fly transatlantic (East Coast U.S to U.K, not St. Johns to Shannon or something similar).","attachment":null,"posted":1714890276},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1995140,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984154
>Venture capital sees how much money rich people have for flying
Maybe the good idea is a supersonic bizjet like a mini Concorde but ten places and the only company capable of this is not a startup but an already experienced company in bizness jet or in supersonic or the two like Dassault.","attachment":null,"posted":1714900131},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1995141,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995129
>after nearly seven years of delays, I think Boom is looking more like Bust.
(laughs mildly)","attachment":null,"posted":1714900971},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1995366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I believe that the disassembly of the Concorde was not due to any problem related to the fact that it was not profitable; but rather that the large economic groups sell garbage at a price of gold and have an agreement not to innovate so as not to give up any of the perpetual profit.
If they could bottle the air, they would","attachment":null,"posted":1715009593},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1995476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"When considering the price, what advantage will supersonic travel offer compared to ordinary planes? Some hour or two less ETA?","attachment":null,"posted":1715062702},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1995508,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995476
It was about 4 hours less going NY to London. Hardly justifiable especially in the era of zoom and in-flight internet but simps will simp for the lifestyle of the rapacious oligarchy because they think they'll be that some day","attachment":null,"posted":1715078606},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1995961,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984580
Specialists need to fly out to oilsites all the time. They don't have the necessary personnel for every eventuality. Doesn't matter with regard to speed though because you need to get equipment there too, which takes far longer than flying out engineers and technicians.","attachment":null,"posted":1715246286},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1995991,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995961
Oil sites in Jamaica Bay and the Thames Estuary? Or the ones 80 miles off the remote coastline of nowhere? How many 12000 foot runways are there within helicopter distance of an oil field anyway? Am I missing something here or are you grasping at straws?","attachment":null,"posted":1715263178},{"board":"n","thread":1984125,"pid":1996006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1984125
>American airplanes
No thanks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715271359}]}
{"title":"Post your cockpits","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987192,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Let's see those handlebar set ups, what gadgets and gizmos are you running and why?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711356554928769.jpg","filename":"image99_orig.jpg"},"posted":1711356554},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987233,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987192
I like this thread idea but post yours before and then I'll bother posting mine, maybe","attachment":null,"posted":1711372337},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPi7bJhavM","attachment":null,"posted":1711372842},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987302,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987233
Evolution of the cockpit","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711397198114428.jpg","filename":"cock1.jpg"},"posted":1711397198},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The bike entire.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711397291256034.jpg","filename":"tinkertek II.jpg"},"posted":1711397291},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"ok well, still not posting mine till i'm sure you're the dude and not a larper.","attachment":null,"posted":1711398329},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987312,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987302
I know this setup could be simplified, so I'm sure this guy is just doing it like this because he can. Based for using toggle switches. I like it.","attachment":null,"posted":1711399189},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987320,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i have a bell","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711401147213127.jpg","filename":"IMG_2636.jpg"},"posted":1711401147},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987333,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987320
Where are the brakes","attachment":null,"posted":1711402969},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987333
what makes you think i want to stop","attachment":null,"posted":1711409592},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987401,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987303
>>1987303
I don't believe this is actually your bike and you just found this on the internet, but whoever's bike this is, they have some form of mental illness. not sure what, but something.
reposting an old photo, everything's still the same","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711416043718482.jpg","filename":"IMG_20190913_180420.jpg"},"posted":1711416043},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987369","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711442633846856.webm","filename":"can't stop, don't want to.webm"},"posted":1711442633},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987302
Nice","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711462021940035.jpg","filename":"20191113_142202.jpg"},"posted":1711462021},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987504,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987401
>they have some form of mental illness.
yeah they're pathologically bad ass","attachment":null,"posted":1711462272},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711469311570810.jpg","filename":"op3.jpg"},"posted":1711469311},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987192
meth is a scary drug","attachment":null,"posted":1711490455},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987641,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987535
i was also partial to the Shimano Deore EX Heavy Action myself","attachment":null,"posted":1711491418},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987788,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987192
I've always liked the idea of some sort of radar/camera setup in the handlebars because I can't quite look back while staying stable and it'd just be cooler","attachment":null,"posted":1711549256},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1987789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Gonna post later, good thread","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711549481009537.jpg","filename":"1000007478.jpg"},"posted":1711549481},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1989519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987333
Flintstone it","attachment":null,"posted":1712238541},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1990369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987192
>>1987302
>>1987303
for what purpose?
also i have some interesting cockpits to post but my phones broke rn so cant take pics
im prone to running kinda wonky shifter set ups
i put some pototype new old stock ci deck rapid rise brifters on my gfs bike","attachment":null,"posted":1712609730},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1990370,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987333
brakes just slow you down
hahahha
hhehehee
hohohohho
hahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHEHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH","attachment":null,"posted":1712609934},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1990373,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987460
you jus tknow whats gonna happen","attachment":null,"posted":1712610048},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1990384,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990370
Why are you laughing?","attachment":null,"posted":1712611330},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1990386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990384
because its very unfunny and ancient joke
its as old as brakes are
people who did horse and carriage racing probably made that joke","attachment":null,"posted":1712611611},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1990790,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Realistically though what is actually useful in a bike/ebike dashboard?
Accessory devices
Dashcam
lighting control
Heated grip control
USB power outlet control
Rearview camera, mirrors, panoramic vision display
Navigation
Compass
maps like Google maps, fatmap, waze, gps
Weather
Weather outlook display (with aqi too maybe)?
Barometer
Thermometer
System
Electrical like power consumption, remaining battery or range, amps being drawn, volts available
Tire pressure sensors
Would be neat to have switches to change the max power it draws probably by modulating voltage, e.g. 250W baby/euro mode, 750W US bike lane, public street mode, >1 kW offroad/private property mode.
How much power it can be generating by going downhill or drawing from solar.
Pacing
Clock,
pace meter
Speedometer
Physical sensors
dynamometer
G-force, accelerometer tracking
Inclinometer
Countermeasures
Radar detector
Radar detector detector detector
Smoke/chaff/flares/oil slick/caltrops/cash (so people run in the street after it) deployment
EW jamming to try to stop that drone or loitering munition from killing you
Did I miss anything?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712785952317516.png","filename":"940812 (1).png"},"posted":1712785952},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1991009,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This man’s destiny was replaced by the iphone","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712895229712770.jpg","filename":"728DB54A-FD11-4E7A-A1CA-049D0E7D62A2.jpg"},"posted":1712895229},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1991016,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987788
Garmin has that
>>1990790
This gives me a comfy feeling","attachment":null,"posted":1712899504},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1991033,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990790
I'd recommend a high powered laser pointer to blind drivers and pursuing helicopter pilots but besides that it's a good list","attachment":null,"posted":1712909203},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1991341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991009
the fact that NOBODY here or on /g/ talks or know about this guy is a fact worth being studied by itself.","attachment":null,"posted":1713119829},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1991444,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987788
the muthaphuckin system shock sensaround","attachment":null,"posted":1713195886},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1991592,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987237
I wish I know the full story. Are those his friends? They straight up stop to fuck with him, do they hate bikes in italy? Why don't they run away?","attachment":null,"posted":1713261518},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1993349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987535
comfy","attachment":null,"posted":1714073380},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1993353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987788
just get a mirror lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714073485},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1993356,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991341
well lets talk about him then qho the fuck is he","attachment":null,"posted":1714073615},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1993357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991592
theyre just fucking around lol","attachment":null,"posted":1714073689},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1993364,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://litter.catbox.moe/rd5knq.mp4","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714074486033971.png","filename":"charlie-davidson-ranger-ls.png"},"posted":1714074486},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1993365,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991341
that's because the dorks on /g/ still live like that","attachment":null,"posted":1714074731},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1993369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993356","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714075065050647.png","filename":"dfsdafdsffdfdfdf.png"},"posted":1714075065},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1993459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987192
>physical buttons
love it. touch screens are cancer","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714098482265119.webm","filename":"1685196892760628.webm"},"posted":1714098482},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1993460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987788
it's easier to look back one handed. It naturally causes you to turn a little so you have to learn to counter steer and pedal to go straight.","attachment":null,"posted":1714098690},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1993527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987460
J. C. BAM!ford","attachment":null,"posted":1714139800},{"board":"n","thread":1987192,"pid":1995477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987192
nice bomb","attachment":null,"posted":1715062858}]}
{"title":"selling the car for a bike","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1989912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've been debating selling my car for a bike and I want to know what you think /n/. All my life all I've ever owned are cheap ass big box store bikes and I thought that's just how bikes were. I thought the expensive ones at bike shops were just for hardcore riders. Well, I decided to check one out as there are several in my town because riding is quite big here. Well, I don't need to tell you guys how much better these bikes were. And it had me thinking.
I'm a tubby broke neet. I need to save more money and get in shape. I can get somewhere around $7000 for my car, enough to get a really solid bike and have plenty extra. I want to know if anyone has ever done this. I've thought about it for several days, and the ONLY reason I can think against it is "driving is easier". There are bike paths and lanes everywhere in my town. It snows maybe 2-3 weeks a year. Grocery store is a 5 minute bike ride away. Has anyone done this before?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712425222621990.webm","filename":"1616383678108.webm"},"posted":1712425222},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1989913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I bought my first car when I was in my late teens and took it very seriously at first. I wasn't making a lot of money at the time but Big Cage had brainwashed me into putting a significant % of paychecks into my cage, until I got fed up with the absurdity of it all. I noticed how CRAZY people got behind the wheel, how they thought of their cars as an extension of their own bodies, how they became psychotic, homicidal freaks, how no car was ever good enough, the more you make the more expensive a cage you are obligated to buy, it's a lose lose, and thought, there has to be a better way. so I sold it, and got what I thought at the time was an incredibly expensive bike (carbon fiber was rare in those days).
it was a big change. I had to do everything by bike. in some ways it was tough, but I was tougher back then than I am now and I was also stubborn. I think it helped that I sold it in the spring and got addicted to riding before the weather turned colder. I have not had any desire to own a car since. I have had 4 bikes since then, and bought my first home, but I have not once looked at a car and been like "I want that"
I still rent a car when I need it, which is rarely. keeping your license is a good idea. but if you don't want a car, you can choose not to have a car. don't listen to the morons who will say "but if you don't live in europe blah blah blah", they have an agenda. make your own agenda. you don't need a car.
just don't cheap out on bike gear. the wheels, the tires, the bad weather apparel. the good stuff is worth it. just remember it's still cheaper than what you're spending on your cage.","attachment":null,"posted":1712425814},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1989914,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"if you live in a nice bikable place and don't go on constant roadtrips then it's a no brainer to save money. as for bike recommendations that's not my area of expertise but I'd say you'd be well suited with a good midrange brand road bike from like trek, cannondale or giant to start so you don't overspend on something that might not work for you. like something in the $1500 range and make sure to go to a shop and ask to try out a bunch, and the first few months of riding WILL suck ass especially if you hit any. eventually I'd say you might want 2 bikes, one road bike and one cargo ebike for when you can't be assed and you need to carry stuff.","attachment":null,"posted":1712425840},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1989920,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"op i dont really know how the bike market is nowadays or what type of bike you need, but people fail to understand that the used bike market is very similar to the used car market. what i mean is that you can get nice road bikes that are the relatively expensive $1000-2000 new for like half or less 4-5 years later. there isnt just either garbage big box store bikes or $5,000 carbon fiber bikes.
for example my bike is quite old (2006 model) aluminum cannondale road bike that was $1400 new, i got it for $500 in 2011. its been my only bicycle for many years and i havent had to do any major repairs on it outside of regular maintenance.
basically my point here is that especially for someone who is showing an interest in possibly biking and using it as your main form of transportation, there arent two extremes where you either get some $200 piece of shit huffy for a $3k carbon fiber. you can find very affordable used bikes that are still very good and i would recommend looking into those","attachment":null,"posted":1712427144},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1989922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989920
just don't fall for the cable disc meme, there's a lot of that shit on the market now for bargain prices for a reason. hydro or rim. pick one.","attachment":null,"posted":1712427398},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990048,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bike is not great for transport. Its excellent for going out specifically to ride, go on trips, track etc.
And then you either go the cyborg route, where your bike is littered with panniers and you carry normal walking shoes and have helmet top case or you're always hot, in thick protective jacket, uncomfortable hard boots and lugging a helmet around in one hand.","attachment":null,"posted":1712480201},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990048
Oh shit, you mean bicycle. IMHO ask /n then. But personally i like to have both - decent shitbike for errands and commute and a car for longer trips, carrying weekly groceries, bigger appliances / construction materials or emergencies.","attachment":null,"posted":1712480712},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"If you're selling your car, you might as well buy a few bikes. I'd pick up at least one expensive road bike like a Giant Contend with good nimble handling and comfort for commutes. Then go with either a used upright or mountain bike from the local pawn shop depending on what you want
Don't forget to secure it if you live somewhere dark btw. They'll steal an expensive bike fast","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712483590517056.jpg","filename":"1000008926.jpg"},"posted":1712483590},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989922
Fuck off","attachment":null,"posted":1712488629},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Don't. If you want to lose weight change your diet. You'll lose far more weight as a result of changing your eating habits than exercising.","attachment":null,"posted":1712488713},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990058,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Op you can get a great bike used for like $500. Don't sell your car just use it less. You're gonna regret it if you're not already a cyclist. This sounds like a "I'm depressed and need to be bold" kind of shit","attachment":null,"posted":1712488717},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990063,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989912
>Has anyone done this before?
No, nobody in history has ever chosen a bicycle over a cage before. You would be the first and wholly unique.","attachment":null,"posted":1712490595},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990064,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990057
Exercising makes you fitter, which increases metabolism, which makes you burn more calories even when resting, which help with losing weight. Being fit also makes you healthier and improves both physical and mental wellbeing. Why the fuck would you recommend against this?","attachment":null,"posted":1712490901},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990122,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990054
honestly this but i wouldn't buy something new. op says he COULD sell his car for 7k, not that he will get that, as well as trying to save money.
buy a 90s mtb or touring bike, some racks and panniers ~$600 including new tires n stuff, less if it's an mtb. just look for a lot of braze ons.
then buy a nice 80s-90s sport tourer with clearance for 35s, good tires and a good saddle and it's probably going to be in the same ballpark of ~$600
then spend ~$100 on tools from the pawn shop and learn to work on shit yourself
this probably sounds very out of touch, but if you're a neet it's time to learn a new skill. and i have the worst luck with bike shops so i'm kinda jaded.","attachment":null,"posted":1712516778},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990123,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990122
if "riding is big" where op lives then the shops are going to be good, provided you go to a shop that sells nice shit","attachment":null,"posted":1712516991},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990125,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990123
riding is "big" in my town, for being what it is and the two shops suck. but also this ultimately is an exercise in saving money.","attachment":null,"posted":1712517527},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990125
I guess it's all relative. when I hear "riding is big" I assume there's shops dealing with more than just the usual boring trek, specialized, giant, cannondale. like unless there's at least an AD for six or more of the following it can't really be considered a "riding is big" town: seven cycles, parlee, look, moots, pegoretti, firefly, storck, alchemy, festka, baum, sarto, wittson, mosaic","attachment":null,"posted":1712518457},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990129,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989912
Just try it out bro.
You can always go back to a car.","attachment":null,"posted":1712518819},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990064
Because if you still eat like shit no reasonable amount of exercise is gonna help you. If your idea of a meal could feed a small family of 3 then what good is exercise then? In my experience exercise is great for maintaining the weight you want.
"You cannot out train a bad diet" is technically wrong but in reality its true. What sounds more appealing to you. Being in a calorie deficit or having to run every day because your diet is awful?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712519570343674.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240407_150536_Brave.jpg"},"posted":1712519570},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990135,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990132
You're an idiot. Partly because what you say kind of sort of true but not really, but mostly because non of it actually answers the question you replied to. So I'm just going to assume that the answer to the question is
>Because I'm an idiot.
and move on. Good day.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712520904222709.gif","filename":"(you).gif"},"posted":1712520904},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why would you sell your car when you can get a nice bike on craigslist for like fifty bucks","attachment":null,"posted":1712582455},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990278,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990056
>mt200 set for 50€
>still fall for cable shit","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712585580104757.png","filename":"1711952615161328.png"},"posted":1712585580},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990445,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990265
If you live somewhere where you don't have depend on one, you might as well cash out on it if you're gonna pick up riding","attachment":null,"posted":1712626134},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"OP here. Sorry for not responding for awhile. Thanks for the helpful posts, much appreciated. I read all of them. To add a bit more detail, I'm 33 y/o and live in a small/medium town. The city has been spending a lot of money on improving cycling routes the last decade and continuing to do so. There's a cycling path that runs all the way from the south end, thru downtown and to the north end. You don't even need to ride on the shoulder of the road unless you're going east or west on a side road.
I know ideally, the best decision is to keep the car and get a used bike. I've spoken to my family about it and they think the same. But... I the grocery store is a 17 minute walk away. I really only occasionally haul things like twice a year and my mom has a truck at her place she can let me borrow if I need it. I'm honestly just sick of driving too. People drive like shit here. I get my ass ridden even going 10km/hr over the speed limit on main roads. I'm sick of it, really. It's stressful.
Regarding used bikes, I have been looking. But the market isn't great. For one I have an uncommon build. I'm 6'0 tall but my inseam is 29". The vast majority of used bikes I've seen have L/XL frames and they feel like shit, can barely get my tip-toes on the ground while seated. I'm still looking but I'm more inclined to get a new one. There are least 5 bike shops nearby all with 4.9/5 ratings. I went into one to look around and there was no pressure. Dude showed me a few bikes even though I said I didn't have the money right now. He also said to keep an eye on the used market.
I haven't put the car up for sale yet but I'm probably going to do it. I know it's a big change and there are many good reasons to keep the car. But I just can't afford a $500+ bike while paying $90/mo insurance, $80/we gas on top of other expenses. I know the bike will have maintenance costs of its own too like tires, brakes, something breaks, I get a tire puncture etc.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712786350246794.jpg","filename":"1710694395637099.jpg"},"posted":1712786350},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990265
I am still looking but the only used bikes I've seen for "fifty bucks" are walmart brands like nakamura. There are many brands mentioned from anons itt like canondale, giant etc but they are all well over $500, not fifty bucks. And unfortunately the ones I've found are all too big for me.
>>1990064
>>1990135
Hey thanks, and I know you're right. The other guy is a retard. When I was in my early 20s I was very fit, 15% body fat and went to the gym daily as well as swimming. A lot of shit happened since and I got fat and unfit but I still have the knowledge. Even if I struggle with changing my diet I know cycling will vastly improve my health.
>>1990123
The shops are quite good, very friendly and bikes ranging from $700 to over $10k. The one I went to they were very friendly, knew their shit and didn't pressure me to buy anything. The owner has run the shop for 30 years.
>>1990058
I made a pros/cons list and I ended up with 11 pros and 5 cons. I know it will be a big lifestyle change and I have enough wisdom to know there will be days of regret. But I think overall my life will improve. I need big changes.
>>1989913
>>1989914
Much appreciated. I really relate to these posts.","attachment":null,"posted":1712786975},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990793
>can barely get my tip-toes on the ground while seated
yeah, about that...
you're a normie and you think a proper bike fit means you can put your feet flat on the ground from the saddle.
if you prioritize that fit, the way your body fits with the bike to actually do what it's supposed to i.e. generate movement is completely fucked. you optimize your fit to making your body the ideal power source for the bike and when you stop, you either dismount or you stay seated and lean over so your foot can touch the ground.
see? even this old lady agrees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNevNqA8sIs","attachment":null,"posted":1712791618},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990883,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990805
>this (dramatic pause) to this
It looks the same? Also, since it's 4chins and I am contractually obligated to meme about how the roasties can't into bikes and femoids don't actually enjoy things (they just pretend to like my favorite intendo so they can manipulate men), from real life it seems like femoids are the ones most drawn towards custom (the only moots and sevencycles I have seen IRL were owned by the women who bought them). Part of that might be the skeletal dimorphism meme which is being pushed by Big Bike to scam people out of just getting different stem or sliding their saddle rails a few mm to and fro. But that is a digression since I see op is a fellow scrote.
Anyway the whole "flat foot in the saddle is LE BAD... because... it just is ok!?!?" is somewhat misguided. There is something comfy about being able to foot plant at a stoplight and then just casually keep going when it turns green, sure it's dogshit for any real distance, and I would not mention this around the children, who require good role models, but if you're just going 5 blocks once a day, what do you need biomechanical efficiency for? Not like you're going to pedal strike from cornering at high speeds.","attachment":null,"posted":1712846682},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989913
> I wasn't making a lot of money at the time but Big Cage had brainwashed me into putting a significant % of paychecks into my cage, until I got fed up with the absurdity of it all. I noticed how CRAZY people got behind the wheel, how they thought of their cars as an extension of their own bodies, how they became psychotic, homicidal freaks, how no car was ever good enough, the more you make the more expensive a cage you are obligated to buy, it's a lose lose, and thought, there has to be a better way.
Hahahahah this is a AA-style recovery fiction
You fuckers really are insane","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712856891377328.jpg","filename":"bikeslol.jpg"},"posted":1712856891},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990891
wow, a vehicle with a combustion engine is faster than a push bike? my mind is blown by this image, i'm going out and buying a ford f-150","attachment":null,"posted":1712857522},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990883
>what do you need biomechanical efficiency for?
the man is replacing his car with a bike. he needs something he can really ride not a beach cruiser and stupid walls of text","attachment":null,"posted":1712862927},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990910,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990798
>I am still looking but the only used bikes I've seen for "fifty bucks" are walmart brands like nakamura. There are many brands mentioned from anons itt like canondale, giant etc but they are all well over $500, not fifty bucks. And unfortunately the ones I've found are all too big for me.
any idiot can find a $50 bike and overhaul it. you need a couple basic tools. some grease, and a wire brush. new tires, cables and brake pads and you're golden. $100 investment. i understand wanting a nice modern bike, but i can't understand selling my car to purchase one, especially when a cheap bike will suit your needs.","attachment":null,"posted":1712863527},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990924,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990891
how many times are you going to post this image from a shithole like sanfransisco in every thread? go back to /o/","attachment":null,"posted":1712872239},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990925,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990910
the thing is a car isn't really "free" even if it's paid off, maintenance, gas and insurance are gonna be hundreds of dollars a year if not over 1000","attachment":null,"posted":1712872300},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990953,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990805
I didn't say I wanted to put my feet flat on the ground. You said that. So I'm not gonna bother with the rest of your post since you didn't bother with mine.
>>1990910
Damn so /n/ has their own version of "3k civic" guy.
>i can't understand selling my car to purchase one
You might not do it and that's fine. But if you bothered to read you would understand it.
Thanks to those who were helpful but the shitposters are here so I'm out. Cheers","attachment":null,"posted":1712878145},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1990954,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990910
yea and while youre at it you can make a decent pair of shoes out of cardboard boxes and twine, only an idiot would pay for brand new shoes","attachment":null,"posted":1712878319},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1993275,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bumping because op is actually trying to live the /n/ life instead of trying to impose his control freak mentality on others by corrupting the law and turning it into power armor for rapacious developers, like the average yimby urbanist","attachment":null,"posted":1714048853},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1995240,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989913
based, also based op
daydreaming about doing this to save money and rack up mileage but desu I'd probably have to change jobs or live in an even smaller town than my current very small town. on the other hand I may change jobs anyway so.","attachment":null,"posted":1714945915},{"board":"n","thread":1989912,"pid":1995319,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990793
if you don't care what people think of you, a small bike trailer is cheap and hauls 300 to 400lbs of stuff.","attachment":null,"posted":1714989568}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1987587,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"America has globally, objectively low commute times. And generally the more public transit usage and walking there is the longer the commute.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711484241132055.png","filename":"daily_commuting_time_minutes (1).png"},"posted":1711484241},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1987599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"umm sorry sweaty but cars are le bad because I can't afford one","attachment":null,"posted":1711487251},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1987991,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"the first thing you assert is backed-up by the graph you posted. the second thing you assert is both vague - moving from language like "objectively" to "generally" - and there is no attempt at all to back this up. the two statements are completely unrelated. shadowbox with this post if you're itching to pick a fight about the chip on your shoulder though","attachment":null,"posted":1711609134},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987991
>the second thing you assert is both vague - moving from language like "objectively" to "generally"
ESL moment.","attachment":null,"posted":1711634374},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
Doesn't have much to do with transit vs cars
The longest examples of Japan and China are both extremely populous, having some of the biggest metropolises in the world. That naturally makes commutes longer, and those cities are so populous they would not be able to function if everybody was using cars (chicken and egg problem as well, since if those cities were built with little transit like the US, they probably would have never grown to their current size)
Also country comparisons of commute times are absurd. In a single country you have massive variations. For example in France many people in Paris have to commute more than an hour, while that's very common outside of the Paris metropolis.","attachment":null,"posted":1711636314},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988030,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"For instance here is an example of commute times in Japan by prefecture that I translated.
You can clearly see only the Tokyo region has long commute times.
The rest is pretty reasonable.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711636662829117.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1711636662},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988029
>Doesn't have much to do with transit vs cars
It does. Public transit is slower than cars because of public transit's inefficiencies. But you'd be correct to say it's not the only factor.
Also, comparing country to country is a good idea. As it shows you what the average commute time of the average person in each country is. Sure some goat farmer in rural UK may have a 2 minute commute but he's hardly the average person.
It additionally disproves the constant communist propaganda that Americans "sit in traffic for 4 hours a day!!" when the reality is that Americans have relatively very short commutes.","attachment":null,"posted":1711640278},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988030
>only
only 1/3 of the country lives there
and keihanshin is still pretty bad, that's another 1/6 of the country","attachment":null,"posted":1711640486},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988320,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988038
>Sure some goat farmer in rural UK may have a 2 minute commute but he's hardly the average person.
but he drags the average commute time down retard","attachment":null,"posted":1711749320},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988325,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988320
>I don't understand how averages work
The absolute state of europoor education.","attachment":null,"posted":1711749690},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988334,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988325
Do you?","attachment":null,"posted":1711751415},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988337,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988334
Kek. Since eurocuck education was so poor I'll help you out.
100,000 citizens with a 45 minute commute = 45 min average.
Adding 10 rural farmers with a 2 minute commute = 44.995 minute average.
One guy with a 2 minute commute is functionally irrelevant, retard.","attachment":null,"posted":1711752165},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988337
>One guy with a 2 minute commute is functionally irrelevant
And do you have the figures to prove that they don't form a statistically significant section of the population? No?","attachment":null,"posted":1711752712},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988340
Yeah, that the average commute time in the UK is 45 minutes you fucking retard lmao.","attachment":null,"posted":1711752888},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988348,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988341
the point is that such analysis has to be done for every country moron","attachment":null,"posted":1711753332},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988348
Uh yeah like the average commute times in the OP? This eurostani education is truly terrible.","attachment":null,"posted":1711753534},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988352
the point is that country-level analysis ignores differences within a country
a country with a less urbanised population will have a shorter average commute time all else being equal","attachment":null,"posted":1711753807},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988358,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988355
Listen retard, you jumped in and said "uhmm akshully 1 guy TOTALLY matters for the average commute!!". When he does not. And you're a total faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1711754021},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988417,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988030
>Tokyo region
What did they mean by building cities like this?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711778358829708.jpg","filename":"13689068909.jpg"},"posted":1711778358},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988418,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988417
Is this autism?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711778443329039.jpg","filename":"13689068979.jpg"},"posted":1711778443},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988419,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988417
Just bug behavior.","attachment":null,"posted":1711778468},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988418
That seems comfy.","attachment":null,"posted":1711779545},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
The longer the commute, the more important public transit is, hense increased public transit usage. You got the cause and effect reversed.","attachment":null,"posted":1711782796},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988418
An autist wouldn't design a street so narrow that the only way two vehicles could safely pass eachother is if both vehickes were either on bicycles or motorcycles. The japanese love to walk but if I can't deafen some kyoto nigga at 3am what is even the point","attachment":null,"posted":1711795498},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988358
the point is that it isn't just "one guy" retard","attachment":null,"posted":1711799975},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988499,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988030
>Includes source
>>1987587
>Doesn't include source
Weird.","attachment":null,"posted":1711813659},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988500,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988428
Ding ding ding. A car-infested Tokyo would collapse into the sea. Commute times are higher because an hour walking and on a train is actually tolerable (both from a psychological perspective and a physiological one) when compared to sitting in traffic for an hour. I imagine that cardiovascular disease deaths caused by commuting in your car for two hours a day for decades brings the average down a bit.","attachment":null,"posted":1711813858},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988499
>uhmm source???
Lol. Anyway, Toronto Board of Trade.","attachment":null,"posted":1711824555},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988500
>Ding ding ding.
This isn't plebbit","attachment":null,"posted":1711825101},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988038
trains are faster, have higher throughput and higher efficiency of movement for people than cars, the only things cars have are the ability to go on any road at any time but this is heavily variant on roads being there and traffic not being a thing. if a city like tokyo had only car transit it would literally not function.","attachment":null,"posted":1711836195},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988418
>>1988417
looks comfy as fuck, oh sorry here's something that's totally not buglike and soulless","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711836335352512.jpg","filename":"file.jpg"},"posted":1711836335},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988562
Ugh yeah, look at those private, fenced in yards. Detached housing so you don't hear your neighbors?? A drive way and garage?! I bet those disgusting fucks have lots of room in those homes too, I bet they're all over 1,600 sqft each!!
Simply horrible. I for one prefer pic related. You don't NEED more.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711836650797827.jpg","filename":"jp_capsule_735728935-1170x680.jpg"},"posted":1711836650},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988575,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988563
>yes i would like to live in a house that looks exactly the same as the one next to it and the one next to that and the one next to that and the one next to that
>no i'm not soulless, you're soulless","attachment":null,"posted":1711839705},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988575
So what","attachment":null,"posted":1711840624},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988575
Actually there is a variety of house styles in that picture.","attachment":null,"posted":1711841501},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988603,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988563
that's a hotel used only for sleeping, noone lives in pods and the biggest and most famous one actually closed down because regular hotel rooms are not much more in japan. you can literally see single family homes in the picture I replied to","attachment":null,"posted":1711847084},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988529
I want newfags who whine about reddit to leave.","attachment":null,"posted":1711851605},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988630,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
You’ll notice whenever 15 minute cities are mentioned they always jump to say that it’s about choice, but that “choice” ALWAYS means making driving much more difficult and expensive.
Bottom line cars bad, drivers selfish, you don’t know what you want, shut up do as your told and rely on big brother to look after your transport concerns, indeed even the question of whether you need to travel at all.","attachment":null,"posted":1711852315},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988640,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988630
>big brother
oh yeah the freedom of
>insurance or you lose your license
>only allowed to go on roads the government builds (a lot of offroading is illegal)
>gas prices set by the government and able to be changed at will
>car registration
>modern cars now literally sell your data to corporations and make your insurance more expensive for bad driving","attachment":null,"posted":1711854596},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988640
You hit someone, how are you going to compensate them? Of course insurance is needed.
Registration needs deregulating. But governments always seek control. New ANPR cameras spy on pedestrians too, FYI. Your phone also tracks you everywhere you go, hardly anyone leaves theirs at home.
If we weren’t happily being led down the net zero bandwagon we wouldn’t allow the State to tax us so easily.
Trucks and Cars can run on sunflower oils and ethanol depending on the engine type. No need to depend on gas stations with an adapted fuel system.
You can rip out all that data collection stuff. people don’t bother to but I have literally never used Bluetooth in a car, I could happily gut a brand new one and not miss any of it.
None of your points are actually an issue except for the general public being spineless. You better put that phone/computer down as it’s listening to you and watching you =)","attachment":null,"posted":1711855708},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988645,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988642
accountability for hitting someone? what if it was their fault? sounds like overreach to me.
>Trucks and Cars can run on sunflower oils and ethanol depending on the engine type. No need to depend on gas stations with an adapted fuel system.
ok, start up your alternative fuel now then because prices are already going up. i'm sure it's really easy. my point is that everything is controlled by the government or corporations and it's a stupid thing to say cars are in anyway free, and to actually believe in the retarded conspiracy theory that "15 minute cities" are anything new and not just the way cities used to be designed","attachment":null,"posted":1711857705},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988650,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988645
They will tax that too. Call it fuel duty or whatever. The U.K. used to prosecute people for running old diesels on veggie oil because the Treasury was losing tons of money. It was so common they gave up and allowed a certain amount to be used duty-free. Eventually the “problem” resolved itself when the fuel systems became too complex and fine tuned for the thicker consistency of SVO.
You’re missing the point of insurance. You’ve got no guarantee you won’t be at fault. If you are, how are you going to pay for the repairs on that Bugatti or the loss of earnings for a father who’s been knocked out of work by your negligence or incompetence? Some people are proposing to make cyclists carry insurance too.
Sounds to me like you just don’t want to take responsibility for your actions so you want the State to take care of your trans our needs instead.
The 15 minute city absolutely is about control, or it would ONLY be about adding infrastructure rather than blocking off roads and putting cameras up everywhere. A lot of you are Americans who have no idea how it is in other parts of the world. Once they get the ball rolling, they aren’t interested in merely making alternative transport viable - it’s an outright attack on anyone who wants to use a car or motorcycle, the vehicles are plainly not welcome in any numbers. I get it, some people feel stranded without a car but don’t ruin it for the rest of us in the process.
All of which will be used to monitor you as a pedestrian, I might add. The cameras have technology which can monitor your gait and match it up to biometrics. That’s just one example. They also have microphones to listen to what you’re saying.","attachment":null,"posted":1711859226},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988655,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
Does that graph correct for all the americans who live in bumfucksville who are 5 minutes from wherever they want to go?
I'd like to see one that specifically shows the commuter times of urban dwellers","attachment":null,"posted":1711859974},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988655
>Does that graph correct for all the americans who live in bumfucksville who are 5 minutes from wherever they want to go?
Superior city planing.","attachment":null,"posted":1711879416},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988672,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988655
Lol so much for density","attachment":null,"posted":1711879574},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988729,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">cager tries to defend his retarded way of life
>goes into conspiratorial screed about how 15-minute cities are a form of government control and how highways and cars aren't","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711896686613940.jpg","filename":"43HYGXVAR4DGEGBASUFQXFA4YA.jpg"},"posted":1711896686},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988729
When people scream conspiracy theory it’s because they have no real come back to the facts they are confronted with. You can’t disprove a single thing I said or you would’ve done so. Fact","attachment":null,"posted":1711896890},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988738,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988729
I see a free-flowing urban expressway. What's the problem?
>>1988734
Why samefag?","attachment":null,"posted":1711897284},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988739,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Calling something a conspiracy theory is like admitting defeat. You are saying you’ve no come back so you can only dismiss it with an insult. Unscientific and would never hold up as a defence in a court of law.
Next time you say cars don’t give any power to the people may I remind you of how scared the Canadian government was of the freedom convoy.
Cope
Try harder.","attachment":null,"posted":1711897385},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988744,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988738
I was talking to the guy who called the 15 minute cities thing a conspiracy theory.
Even if it is only a “theory” that doesn’t mean it’s untrue. The evidence to suggest it’s real is found in government and WEF-type NGO websites and documents. People looked at things that are happening all at once and put two and two together.
I mean:
CBDC (control of peoples money)
Digital ID (linked to a social credit score - can be used to deny you access to services)
Removal of cars, trucks and motorcycles (cars are considered weapons in law)
Removal of guns (unable to resist the State)
Mass surveillance and tracking (used to locate dissidents)
When you put it all together you have a situation where the people are disarmed and the State can do whatever it wants without any repercussions. But democracy exists, you say. Yeah. What democracy?","attachment":null,"posted":1711898869},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988586
but no variety of garden styles because the hoa doesn't permit personal expression
>>1988642
>Trucks and Cars can run on sunflower oils and ethanol depending on the engine type. No need to depend on gas stations with an adapted fuel system.
instead you depend on the people growing, refining, and distributing sunflower oil and ethanol retard
>>1988739
>Next time you say cars don’t give any power to the people may I remind you of how scared the Canadian government was of the freedom convoy.
a) the freedom convoy didn't involve cars
b) the american government is so scared of a rail strike they have signed laws making it illegal to strike every time one has been threatened
>>1988744
I like how nothing that you mentioned has anything to do with "15-minute cities"","attachment":null,"posted":1711904028},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988760
You can buy that stuff in supermarkets you donkey. It’s actually better used as fuel considering the health implications seed oils have but that’s a separate issue entirely.
What’s the difference between dependant on oil, dependant on supermarkets and dependant on the State provided transport solutions? I’ll wait. Because you’re still dependant on someone else to get to where you want to go. Combustion engines can be adapted to run on pretty much anything with the right fuel system. Somebody even ran a car on coffee as an experiment. It was successful.
The freedom convoy actually did have a lot of cars and F-150/Ram kinda trucks involved. It was more than semi truck drivers. You’re still missing the point that even a 1000 kg car can travel at a high speed and do a lot of damage if the driver so chooses. That’s why the government wants to get rid of them.
15 minute cities absolutely are tied up with what I said. It’s a convenient front to implement the schemes. Nobody had ever heard of it until the WEF and UN stooges started parroting sustainability and air quality rhetoric","attachment":null,"posted":1711904599},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988764,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"In fact the diesel engine was originally designed for farmers to run with their waste products. Until big oil realised it could use the leftovers from gasoline production to make even more money.
Case in point? The diesel engine is just about as much potential for independence as you can hope to get.","attachment":null,"posted":1711904881},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988779,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988761
>What’s the difference between dependant on oil, dependant on supermarkets and dependant on the State provided transport solutions?
My point is that there is no difference, retard.
>Combustion engines can be adapted to run on pretty much anything with the right fuel system.
And where's this fuel that IC engines can use that's readily available even without global supply chains?
>Somebody even ran a car on coffee as an experiment. It was successful.
But was it practical? And coffee is hardly a good example of a fuel you're not dependent on international supply chains to get.
>You’re still missing the point that even a 1000 kg car can travel at a high speed and do a lot of damage if the driver so chooses. That’s why the government wants to get rid of them.
So it's not about restricting mobility?
>Nobody had ever heard of it until the WEF and UN stooges started parroting sustainability and air quality rhetoric
Where would you expect the idea of "fifteen-minute cities" to come from if not the sort of people you label as "WEF and UN stooges"?","attachment":null,"posted":1711909677},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988779
Your tone is hilariously angry. We aren’t farmers living off the land in the jungle anymore. Your food comes from supermarkets. You literally wouldn’t survive without modern society. The fuel supply chains you’re speaking of are no different to the food supply chains. Matter of fact those same food supply chains can also be used to obtain vehicle fuel. As I previously posted, when people did this in the U.K. the government got angry.
You can make fuel suitable for combustion engines at home with a little knowledge of chemistry. The worlds fastest land vehicles run on alcohol. Something people have been making in their back yards since records began. The coffee powered car was an extreme example since nobody would ever consider it a viable fuel source but it worked.
The government wants to stop us having the ability to live independently. It wants us entirely dependant on it. If you misbehave you get your access to public services (such as buses) removed. For this to be an effective method of manipulating the population you first need to remove their guns (ability to fight) and their cars (ability to flee). If the president announced a car ban tomorrow would it work? No. You introduce it gradually through taxes and regulations so people voluntarily give them up because it’s too much hassle. Then once everyone’s disarmed the government moves onto the real goal.
As per the UN and WEF, why are we taking orders from unelected officials?
You’re free to make a party with a manifesto stating you want to get rid of cars. But people won’t vote for it in large numbers. The general public is (on the whole) quite happy with cars being so commonly used. On the other hand there’s no shortage of complaints about gas prices being too high. The people aren’t asking for buses and cycle lanes, they’re asking for cheaper fuel.","attachment":null,"posted":1711912086},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Europoors spend hours on a piss stinking train next to rapefugees
Lol
Do they really?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711914513682551.jpg","filename":"1696988183473458.jpg"},"posted":1711914513},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988794,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988575
>I am different to everyone else!
Is that why you decide to wear panties and paint your toenails?","attachment":null,"posted":1711914621},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988801,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It’s not for governments to start telling the public that they know better and the masses don’t know what they want.
Sure research can be done and published. If people prefer the idea of (potentially) better commute times over privacy and self autonomy, they can vote for it.
As I said before you can make anti car political parties, they won’t get anywhere. Pressure groups with brown envelopes on the other hand, work wonders.
Ah the joys of governments preferring their back pockets to working with the wishes of the people.","attachment":null,"posted":1711915935},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988834,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988787
>Your tone is hilariously angry.
We are on fucking 4chan.
>We aren’t farmers living off the land in the jungle anymore. Your food comes from supermarkets. You literally wouldn’t survive without modern society. The fuel supply chains you’re speaking of are no different to the food supply chains. Matter of fact those same food supply chains can also be used to obtain vehicle fuel.
I'm not disputing that, in fact it's my entire point you fucking mongoloid.
>You can make fuel suitable for combustion engines at home with a little knowledge of chemistry. The worlds fastest land vehicles run on alcohol. Something people have been making in their back yards since records began.
And why isn't everyone making fuel at home instead of complaining about gas prices?
>As per the UN and WEF, why are we taking orders from unelected officials?
Are elected officials "taking orders" when they follow the advice of someone?
>The general public is (on the whole) quite happy with cars being so commonly used. On the other hand there’s no shortage of complaints about gas prices being too high. The people aren’t asking for buses and cycle lanes, they’re asking for cheaper fuel.
Where are your sources for this information? Where are the results of opinion polls and referendums?
>>1988794
You are on fucking 4chan, this is not the place for people who desire social conformity","attachment":null,"posted":1711922247},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988834
Calm down pal. You’re clearly upset. It’s ok. I get it. Someone coal rolled you after you decided to ride your bike in the middle of the road and not move over when you had space to do so.
If you actually read what I said you’d have paid attention to the fact making your own fuel will get the attention of the tax office. And some people with old trucks do run them on SVO straight out the bottle.
You’re trying to make out we are dependant on supply chains so the bus isn’t any worse. That’s entirely false and you know it. Oh look the buses aren’t running and the sale of gas is banned, no problem I’ll just modify my truck to run on something else.
Most people are NPCs and too ignorant to bother at the moment but necessity is the mother of invention. People will undoubtedly adapt if the need arises.
Klaus Schwab has proudly bragged about infiltrating governments. The WEF and UN is an unelected group of billionaires seeking nothing but their own power and money, they are not accountable and shouldn’t be listened to.
I don’t need to post sources as election results clearly show what’s important to people. If your socialist urban planning was so important to people you’d see parties who support it being voted for up and down the country. But they’re not.","attachment":null,"posted":1711923950},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988793
>why yes, I do have a tiny penis, how did you know?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711925407196308.jpg","filename":"169.jpg"},"posted":1711925407},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988846
You are thinking about penis again, anon.","attachment":null,"posted":1711925520},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988896,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988760
>but no variety of garden styles because the hoa doesn't permit personal expression
I love how people how go after single family homes like this (HOAs aren't universal) but then don't say anything when every new apartment complex is built practically exactly the same, and each new development has the exact same floorplan (basically a few variations with more or less square footage) and a laundry list of things you can and can't do.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711939661731715.jpg","filename":"1493871653051.jpg"},"posted":1711939661},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988901,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The angry replies people give on here are living proof of why public transport is something to avoid if possible. Terrible ambassadors for their proposals","attachment":null,"posted":1711942945},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988992,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988843
>Calm down pal. You’re clearly upset. It’s ok. I get it.
Save me the faux-concern over tone. This is 4chan, if you can't handle the bants get back to Twitter.
>Oh look the buses aren’t running and the sale of gas is banned, no problem I’ll just modify my truck to run on something else.
And what will you modify it to run on that isn't dependent on international supply chains, fucktard?
>Klaus Schwab has proudly bragged about infiltrating governments. The WEF and UN is an unelected group of billionaires seeking nothing but their own power and money, they are not accountable and shouldn’t be listened to.
What non-elected officials do you consider acceptable to listen to?
>I don’t need to post sources as election results clearly show what’s important to people.
Which election results do you feel prove the rejection of "fifteen-minute cities" by the populace?
>If your socialist urban planning was so important to people you’d see parties who support it being voted for up and down the country. But they’re not.
There has been no large-scale shift away from left-wing parties.
>>1988896
I wasn't attacking all single-family homes you brainlet fucking retard
>>1988901
Sorry for not meeting your standards of etiquette on FUCKING 4CHAN.ORG","attachment":null,"posted":1711990347},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1988996,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988901
Pro-transit people are their own worst enemies. See >>1988992 as an example.","attachment":null,"posted":1711991242},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989001,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988996
It’s ok he just got the runs after eating a pack of insect based chips while he was standing in the wind and rain waiting for the bus
People like him are literally why public transport in America is avoided like the plague","attachment":null,"posted":1711994824},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989003,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">transportation board
>but constant whining about why transit is bad (mostly americans)
>anti bike sentiments
>concern trolling about 15 minute city conspiracies
what the fuck happened to this board? is it /o/ or just general election tourists? the only things you can discuss on this board now are bike parts and specific train models.","attachment":null,"posted":1711996813},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989005,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989003
election tourists, note how they're very concerned about being polite","attachment":null,"posted":1711997714},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989003
It's because you faggot communists go to every other board to shill your communist bullshit. You invited this upon yourselves. And it's very telling you're getting completely shit on and can't a single good argument.","attachment":null,"posted":1711998550},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989009,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989003
>what the fuck happened to this board?
Urban planning threads started being allowed","attachment":null,"posted":1711999199},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989012,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989007
i don't see anything about urban planning outside /n/ apart from the occasional politicsbait thread on /v/, which you should have the good sense to ignore","attachment":null,"posted":1712000391},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989016,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989012
Lol. It's everywhere. On /tv/, /k/ and especially /o/ of course. Even one of my friends IRL spouts communist talking points about heckin' 15 minute cities, big trucks bad and heckin' middle housing.","attachment":null,"posted":1712000811},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989017,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989016
sounds like someone can't handle hearing different political opinions","attachment":null,"posted":1712001048},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989017
>spam retarded disingenuous communist garbage which sole purpose is to harm people, especially the middle class and middle upper class
>shocked when people get real tired of your dumb bullshit","attachment":null,"posted":1712001176},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989020,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989018
>>1989016
>>1989007
samefaggot. as I thought it is buttmad election tourists","attachment":null,"posted":1712001927},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989020
>wow a guy directly replying within a conversation is the same guy
Truly next level 80 IQ sleuthing. I've been here for 18 years. Probably longer than you've been alive.","attachment":null,"posted":1712002145},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989007
This except that it's mostly not people coming from other boards specifically to pick fights with the dumbass commies. What happens is that people come here genuinely interested in discussing some form of non-automobile transit and instead of real discussion it's just a crowd of dumb and ignorant* shills spamming low-effort propaganda.
* specifically, the moro/n/ic transportation and urban planning shills here fail at
- Geography
- Economics
- History
- Mathematics (geometry, logic, algebra, calculus, you name it)
- Physics
- Life
All they can do is parrot shallow meme opinions about how cars are evil and copy/paste links they got from some dumbass shill account on social media. And they have the gall to complain that they can't discuss anything without getting a bunch of pushback from people who aren't retarded and ignorant.","attachment":null,"posted":1712007696},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989032
It’s funny because I believe public transport is a good thing. My issue (as with most other so called car brains) is that these people and the government tax us to the grave then tell us no you can’t have your own car, you’ve got to use what we provide and comply with our timetables and our routes.
We are also unfairly vilified because the WEF type organisations have successfully convinced people that cars are bad despite being one of mankind’s greatest inventions.
You unfortunately can’t discuss PT without the political ideologies of socialism and globalism coming up, because by far the most common type of public transport advocate/car hater is a socialist who wants to do away with the concept of private ownership, especially your car and house/apartment.
They always show up with ants in their pants, whether it be on here, Reddit, Twitter or the MSM","attachment":null,"posted":1712009764},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989037
>>1989032
you typed a whole of points despite the argument you are trying to make not being sensible at all. you argue against people that only exist at the far fringes to justify your inane opinions about public transit and despite being "totally authentic /n/ posters who like transit an bikes guys!" you take any idea that cars have too much of a prevalence in city design as an attack by commies, you never say anything about how you'd make transit better, just that the evil commies and twitter fags want you to live in controlled cities and eat the bugs.","attachment":null,"posted":1712011578},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You can make a post saying the price of peas is too high or the neighbours are playing music too loudly and they’ll be along to explain why this could be solved by reducing car use. It’s ridiculous.","attachment":null,"posted":1712011614},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989041,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989039
Nothing I said was insane.
Let me tell you a story.
Many years ago I was a kid walking to get a late night train with my mother. It was dark as you’d expect. My mother observed someone was following us so she called a taxi.
Have you ever stopped to consider the absurdity of claiming that everything I say is incorrect?
You are now making a totally baseless claim that I disapprove of or hate public transport. I have only stated that I don’t want to be legislated out of my car, especially after all the taxes and hoops I had to jump through to get it.
You’re a first class idiot and a troll. But by all means keep making yourself and your cause look bad, you’ll only further convince us of the wisdom of staying insure our comfy cars","attachment":null,"posted":1712011937},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989041
>I have only stated that I don’t want to be legislated out of my car
that isn't happening and this very claim is the disingenuous thing that every concern troll does on this board. the only thing getting regulated are gas cars, people are jUSTt being pushed into the new thing to consume which is the electric vehicle and companies like tesla make sure that the conversation is centered around how these electric cars are the solution instead of public transit so that shitty urban design continues to be the status quo. anyway, in many american cities the thing is that cars are the standard and are catered to heavily so the unfortunate reality is that for transit and biking/walking to get any better, something has to give, you can't have a rainbow land where every mode has enough share for no traffic and where the city is still nice to walk around because that's just not possible with the basic geometry the automobile, I have a car, I know cars are useful and are important to work, I do not want or think cars need to be removed from all roads, but I imagine you think even a single road changed to be car light is "commie"?","attachment":null,"posted":1712012322},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989044,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989043
“Bad urban design”.
That’s entirely your opinion. I’ve no desire to live in a shoebox apartment with a 3 generation mortgage or obliged to rent at extortionate rates. Go live in a place like Singapore if that’s what you want. Oh and it’s like $10,000 for a car ownership license over there. You’ll be in paradise. The lot of you can go, it’ll make life better for the rest of us. Or you can go to that other place you bicycle fanatics rave about - the Netherlands. But I suspect they don’t want you there either as they’re only biking out of convenience in their specific scenario","attachment":null,"posted":1712012768},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989045,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Oh and many cities are trying to ban private cars. It’s no secret.
They could be banned from every road in the country except one specific highway and you’d say they aren’t being banned. You can talk technicalities but that’s irrelevant when it’s effectively impossible or inconvenient for Joe Public to have one. Move along troll","attachment":null,"posted":1712012909},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989046,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989044
>I’ve no desire to live in a shoebox apartment with a 3 generation mortgage
none of that has to do with a reduction in car usage and is a retarded argument that shows you aren't here to discuss anything logically, the rest of your post is rambling nonsense. btw car ownership in singapore and netherlands are still pretty high, taxes are high in singapore so I wouldn't own a car there but that's not an issue, and noone is trying to turn the US into singapore (nor would it ever have such good public transit and social cohesion). again, you didn't answer the question if you think even a single road changed to have less car lanes is an attack on car owners, if you do, you do not care about bikes and public transit and only claim to as a shield for your retarded opinions on this board.","attachment":null,"posted":1712013102},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989048,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989046
Except your urban planning is centred around extreme population densities that cause house prices to skyrocket.
And blocking off roads only causes more congestion. And it discourages people from visiting as access is more difficult. Then jobs are lost, people get poorer, colder and hungrier. Ask the residents of London, quite a few of them are out of work thanks to their pea brained mayor’s hatred of cars","attachment":null,"posted":1712013546},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989049,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989048
>Then jobs are lost, people get poorer, colder and hungrier. Ask the residents of London, quite a few of them are out of work thanks to their pea brained mayor’s hatred of cars
that never happened, you live in a false reality given to you by echo chambers.","attachment":null,"posted":1712013781},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989052,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989049
Tell me why so many people have time to stand around blocking ULEZ cameras then. I’ll wait.","attachment":null,"posted":1712014827},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989161,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989048
>extreme population densities that cause house prices to skyrocket
This only happens when the dense urban area does not actually have enough housing. Compare to Tokyo, where housing CPI has remained flatlined since 1995 despite an increasing metro population. Tokyo has built a LOT of housing to keep ahead of demand, and that's why they have the lowest housing costs of any world city.","attachment":null,"posted":1712080491},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989018
Define "disingenuous" faggot.
>>1989045
>Oh and many cities are trying to ban private cars.
Such as? If you say Bristol I know you're a retarded faggot.
>>1989048
m8 if you're going into London in a car you're mentally fucking retarded","attachment":null,"posted":1712082013},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989165,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989161
>Compare to Tokyo
The real estate markets aren't the same. Most housing in Japan depreciates in value over time. Only the land itself holds value. It's normal to knock down a 30+ year old home and rebuild it.
The differences between the US and Japanese real estate markets are so vast that comparisons between them are mostly useless.","attachment":null,"posted":1712083136},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989162
Here we go with the insults again. The sign of a true loser. Paris has a “No Cars Sunday” at the start of every month.
Glasgow’s low emission zone outright fines you for not having a compliant car. Not an outright ban on all cars but a total ban on certain types - actually the types that were most popular across Europe for decades until recently *cough* those diesels people were advised to buy by the governments
“Driving into London makes you a retard”. No it doesn’t. That’s your opinion. Nobody drives for fun in London. They do it because they need to. You go outside the city limits for fun in a car, or to a race track. It’s an awful place to drive. Cameras and entrapment designed to fleece you round every corner. Huge congestion (thanks to over 7 million residents) and the public transport isn’t great at all. The Underground is one of the most toxic places open to the public in the entire countries so consider me confused if using that instead of a car is somehow supposed to be better for your health.
Sorry, call me selfish but if I have to visit London I’ll be staying in a car of some description, I’m less likely to get lung cancer.
On the other hand why visit that heap anyway? Nice way to get stabbed or mugged, if you ask me. Horrendous crime rates.
And again, I’m not in any hurry to shard transport of any kind with strangers as long as rude creatures like you are around. But by all means keep discrediting yourself and everything you’re trying to convince people of","attachment":null,"posted":1712086890},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989182,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989176
>Paris has a “No Cars Sunday” at the start of every month.
The one that literally exempts Paris residents?
>Glasgow’s low emission zone outright fines you for not having a compliant car. Not an outright ban on all cars but a total ban on certain types
OH BOY I LOVE AIR POLLUTION
>“Driving into London makes you a retard”. No it doesn’t. That’s your opinion. Nobody drives for fun in London. They do it because they need to. You
Really? Everyone driving in London is a rational ubermensch who's objectively determined that driving is the most efficient to get where they need to go?
>The Underground is one of the most toxic places open to the public in the entire countries
[citation needed]
>And again, I’m not in any hurry to shard transport of any kind with strangers as long as rude creatures like you are around.
You are on fucking 4chan, if you can't handle the bants get out.","attachment":null,"posted":1712087809},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989184,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989162
>Define "disingenuous" faggot.
I would say it's the usual "transit" mindset of wavering between parroting misquoted statistics and outright making things up","attachment":null,"posted":1712088092},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989185,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989182
Grow up child. There’s tons of videos of people taking air quality meters into the Underground. It’s just about the worst place for your health in the entire country.
A ban is a ban. A ban that exempts politicians is still a ban. Keep splitting hairs","attachment":null,"posted":1712088126},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989186,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989184
Or outright ignoring part of a post while pretending you said something else.
Let’s not forget the age old “nobody is trying to take your car away” while gleefully celebrating every restriction that’s imposed upon private motorised traffic and begging the State to regulate cars into oblivion.
Oh look here’s a 50 ft stretch of public road you’re allowed to drive your car on. It’s the only stretch in the entire country but cars are still legal here - literally every every car hater ever. Find some obscure technicality to give an illusion of freedom and choice that doesn’t exist.","attachment":null,"posted":1712088469},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989187,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989182
I’m on my second diesel and the only smells I’ve ever had was when my old car had a cracked manifold and rolled coal like a boss. It was sold to a metal recycling plant shortly after due to needing thousands of dollars worth of body repairs as well as a new manifold and possibly fuel injectors. Loved it to death but the previous owners had neglected it. At least it had a good run for the last year of its life while I had it.
My current diesel is so clean you would barely know it was running even on a cold start. It’s also at least as quick as a Tesla despite its age.
Cope","attachment":null,"posted":1712088778},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989203,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989184
>wavering between parroting misquoted statistics and outright making things up
And where have I done that?
>>1989185
>There’s tons of videos of people taking air quality meters into the Underground. It’s just about the worst place for your health in the entire country.
Again, [citation needed]. A video of an air quality meter is not a source absent a comparison to other locations.
>A ban is a ban. A ban that exempts politicians is still a ban. Keep splitting hairs
And where is this "ban that exempts politicans"?
>>1989186
Where have I "found obscure technicalities"?
>>1989187
Ah yes, the most objective test of air pollution - how much does it smell when it's the only car around?","attachment":null,"posted":1712095911},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989232,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989203
>A video of an air quality meter is not a source
Nta but listen to yourself lol
It's a known problem in the US and presumably everywhere else.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712103215281459.png","filename":"Capture.png"},"posted":1712103215},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
>Commute times are low despite being a massive country
>Nature is massively preserved and not entirely destroyed like in Europe to build train tracks, concrete sidewalks and bike lanes
I do not see a single issue what we're doing here in America","attachment":null,"posted":1712103765},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989203
You’re an utter retard. “Citation”= a simple YouTube search. Literally nobody including Transport for London deny the air quality in the Underground is the worst in the whole city and poses a health risk.
Smell is a very good measure of emissions. That’s why we have noses and why we start coughing and spluttering if we inhale significant quantities of smoke. My car also has to pass an emissions test in order to be road legal (which it is fully legal). You know nothing whatsoever. Go snack on a plate of bugs, I’m just about to sit down for some roast chicken.
If there’s anything I’ve learnt it’s that the government can’t be trusted. If it says to not use my car then I know I should do the opposite, because governments only act in their own internet and never for the people. Time after time its proven. Vaccines, wars, you name it. All about extracting as much money and freedom from the masses as possible. Multi billion dollar contracts involved. Do the math and it all adds up.
But once again, keep going with your rude and arrogant rhetoric. Somebody else already posted evidence about metro networks being bad for health.
Those electric buses they got in London caught fire 2 or 3 times in a single month. The environmental damage and risk to health for passers by is truly horrendous. But sure my old car which is well over a decade old and still runs immaculately with tire shredding levels of power is evil? Sure buddy. Also all those battery minerals mined for by literal children in the Congo and assembled with slave labour in China. Not saying cars are perfect but don’t pretend public transport is any better, either. Disgusting hypocrisy.","attachment":null,"posted":1712107921},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989250,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989203
>And where have I done that?
Because of the anonymity of this board it's impossible to say if (You) personally have said anything or not about that. It is, however, endemic to this board, and I can list common examples if you're interested.","attachment":null,"posted":1712108028},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ironically the most polluted area any human being bothers to visit in the area is wait for it…
The train/railway platform.
Coupled with the coughing and spluttering every time I get passed by a bus on my bike.
I think we are seeing a pattern here..","attachment":null,"posted":1712108661},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989252,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Socialism is the political ideology of envy. That’s why every time someone dares to disagree or post a fact or piece of evidence that contradicts them, they come seeking like angry bees.
Plenty of traditional minded/conservative “far right extremists” like and use public transport. The difference is they don’t get angry at other peoples decisions.
None so intolerant as the tolerant =)","attachment":null,"posted":1712108965},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"America and most of Europe are democratic countries.
I see plenty of protests about anti car regulations and taxes, but not seen a single crowd of people take to the streets over pedestrian access.
Maybe I’m wrong but it would appear the people prefer cars despite them supposedly being so bad. And the peoples wishes are what matters, not statistics or ideologies.","attachment":null,"posted":1712109391},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989165
>Most housing in Japan depreciates in value over time.
This is because Japan builds a lot of housing, and we do not. As a US example, Austin has seen rent growth recede sharply after it exploded in 2019-2020 (they aren't building enough, but are building a lot), compared to every other major US city. Houston's has stayed relatively low, mainly riding the massive wave of pre-2008 collapse construction. Picrel.
Housing is a need. It is an inelastic commodity. People NEED a house, will generally only have one house, and can't survive long without one. If you build a lot of housing relative to your population, you have a high supply and low housing costs and rents. This is what happens in Tokyo. If you don't build, or like London/SF don't build while also increasing jobs and population (the demand part of the housing market), demand outstrips supply and drives the price up. This is also why the remainder of your post is inane bullshit.
>>1989176
NTA but fuck off","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712113129896876.jpg","filename":"20240402_141624.jpg"},"posted":1712113129},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989257,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989251
The difference is I'm on a train platform for 20-30 minutes tops, while highways are dumping pm2.5 particles nonstop at all hours of the day right next to the places people actually live and work in.","attachment":null,"posted":1712113272},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989260,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989256
>you gotta keep building housing bro, it's not like things will change and they become slums for years to come","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712114640882162.jpg","filename":"News_Article__Houston_Chronicle__July_17_1988__p51.pdf Apartments into Slums.jpg"},"posted":1712114640},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989257
Fails to see the point that public transport’s pollution reducing benefits are exaggerated*
Not saying the service isn’t needed, just before you try to pretend that I think trains should be axed.","attachment":null,"posted":1712115771},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989266,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It’s all founded on lies and manipulation. Governments only serve themselves. They’re like parasites. Removing cars is part of a dangerous cultural shift designed to make people increasingly dependent on the state.
1) purposely create population density runaway
2) services can’t handle the demand
3) raise taxes to fund better services, causing a runaway feedback loop
4) use traffic and public service overload as an excuse for government regulation
5) house prices skyrocket as people rush to get jobs in the overly developed areas
6) banks move in and buy up everything
7) you own nothing and rent everything
8) you are now a serf","attachment":null,"posted":1712116150},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989272,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989266
Cars make you 10x more dependent on the state
>have to go through the licensing process and give the state all your details; if you don't follow correspondence from them you can lose your license
>furthermore have to keep up to date on your car's registration and fulfil safety checks set by the government
>in some areas are even forced to take out third party insurance by the state
>all of this takes up 10x more of your disposable income than public transport, further putting you at the mercy of the state
>have to obey strict code of conduct on the road or else have your license taken away by the state
>can only drive on roads built by the state
>whenever you're on the road you're fully at the mercy of some cop on an ego high who can pull you over for a random reason
Also please stop reddit spacing","attachment":null,"posted":1712118633},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989283,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989272
>*cancels bus lane in your area*
Your move?","attachment":null,"posted":1712122268},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989272
And you’re telling me I don’t have to go through a registration process for a bus pass or railway discount card? Don’t be daft.
Cars cost more than public transport? Dear me there goes the envy again. Just because you don’t value the benefits doesn’t mean other people feel the same. Again, where are all the pro public transport and pedestrian access demonstrations? Nobody has pointed to a single one. All you guys do is play keyboard warrior on the internet and play victim.
Are you suggesting we scrap traffic laws so we end up with pure chaos and vast numbers of people getting hurt and property being damaged? Society can’t exist without order. Clown.
Cops? Never been pulled over despite being a prime target - I’ve got a very quick car that most young(ish) drivers could only ever dream of owning. Dont know of anyone else being pulled over either, my dad once turned up a one way street not being familiar with the area anc the popo thought he might be drunk, but that’s about all. Don’t drive like an idiot and be polite, it goes a long way. Trust me. Again. You like your big cities with high crime rates, you’ll get pulled over more as the police are more suspicious of everything and on edge.
Insurance is self explanatory, without it people will be left out of pocket. Again jf encourages responsible driving as premiums skyrocket if you hit someone. Not sure why a bike/bus zealot like you would have an issue with this.
What about buses and pedestrians? They use State built roads too. Sorry champ you’re not shortcutting through my back yard, it’s called trespass.
Your whole entire argument is useless.
And sorry no I’ll keep typing as I always do. At least I’m not rude to people :))","attachment":null,"posted":1712123796},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989286,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"For what it’s worth, my car costs a lot but it’s worth it. People in my area have easy access to buses and trains. They can walk anywhere they may need to, but the local authorities still want to close roads to cars. How do I know the accessibility to non car transport is fine? Because I did it for many years. So why block roads and slow things down when nobody has any complaints about the current state of affairs.
Oh yeah it’s because the authorities get money from central government for implementing anti car policies, whether they’re beneficial to the public or not. Or you have a bunch of virtue signalling vegans in charge. That can be another reason. Or both.
This is what drivers are irritated by and it’s perfectly reasonable. But car hating zealots will celebrate anything that makes driving difficult or expensive, because it’s an ideology based on envy.
The super rich don’t want to share with the poor and the scum classes don’t want to see anyone better off than themselves. So the hard working tax payer who just wants to get his family around safely and quickly gets left with the bill","attachment":null,"posted":1712124620},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989297,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
Now post the average commute time to get some eggs and milks and to the local pub","attachment":null,"posted":1712131718},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989300,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988417
This is based. People get live in new (albeit small) houses or small apartment complexes despite literally living in the biggest city on earth with tons of amenities within walking distance. They could have had some tall dystopian tower blocks with a bunch of nothingness in between that wouldn't actually house more people than this.","attachment":null,"posted":1712132192},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989319,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989260
Single-family zoning and low density development does not prevent slums you utter fuckwit.","attachment":null,"posted":1712145329},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989322,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989265
>he can't fathom the idea of putting platform barriers in stations or adding additional ventilation and filtering to improve air quality
Many such cases","attachment":null,"posted":1712145747},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989330,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989322
Doesn’t change the fact the air quality is bad. The ideas either don’t work as well as you claim or the government isn’t interested, which confirms that it’s about money and control rather than the people.","attachment":null,"posted":1712152269},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989333,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989330
>The ideas either don’t work as well as you claim
Anon, amount of air pollution in a confined space is entirely a function of ventilation power and filter size. The faster air is filtered, the less pollution is present in it. This is not a Byzantine concept.
>the government isn’t interested
Metro systems around the world have already made ventilation and platform barrier upgrades. NYC is adding platform barriers literally as we speak, though right now theirs are designed solely to prevent people going on tracks rather than improving platform air quality. WMATA is planning to add them. Things are improving no matter how much your scream about "muh goberment", even despite US transit systems in particular being perpetually hamstrung by a certain class of congresscritter.","attachment":null,"posted":1712153779},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989336,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989319
Quit moving goalposts. Overbuilding housing DOES have consequences.
>>1989333
Pollution in enclosed environments is different than pollution in outside environments. Outside, weather and topography usually blows off pollution and particulates, unless you live somewhere like LA where the sea air will blow in but nothing can blow off from the city because it gets trapped by the mountains.","attachment":null,"posted":1712154822},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989351,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989333
Why is the air quality in them still so bad then? Not enough has been accomplished. I’m not talking money spent, I’m talking actual tangible results. You’re more likely to get lung cancer on a metro than almost anywhere else aside from smoking","attachment":null,"posted":1712158838},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989336
Their reply to everything is shove ever more people into a patch of land until they’re metaphorically suffocating and then they’ll say there’s too many humans and we all know where that leads to","attachment":null,"posted":1712158934},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989235
>Nature is massively preserved
??? trees beside houses is not preserved nature, suburban sprawl and excessive highway construction destroy nature more than any other development type simply due to how far reaching they are.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712162025898241.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1712162025},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989367,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989300
AKA Corbusier which most every modern urban planner thinks was a massive retard.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712162183259157.jpg","filename":"file.jpg"},"posted":1712162183},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989232
But is that air pollution worse than that of cars, retard?
>>1989235
>suburbs
>preserving nature
lmao
>>1989249
>Literally nobody including Transport for London deny the air quality in the Underground is the worst in the whole city and poses a health risk.
https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/air-pollution-tube-1
>London Underground (LU) air pollution is not unacceptably high, and LU air quality is well within the Health and Safety Executive specified limits (4mg/m3). It is important to note that the air in the Underground system is very different from that found on the surface, where pollution is mainly due to vehicle exhaust emissions. While particulates found above ground are known to be carcinogens, those on the Underground are not known to have that effect.
>If there’s anything I’ve learnt it’s that the government can’t be trusted. If it says to not use my car then I know I should do the opposite, because governments only act in their own internet and never for the people.
This is glue-eater logic.
>But once again, keep going with your rude and arrogant rhetoric.
YOU ARE ON FUCKING 4CHAN
>Somebody else already posted evidence about metro networks being bad for health.
The question is not "do they have potential negative health impacts", the question is "are those impacts worse than those of cars"
>The environmental damage and risk to health for passers by is truly horrendous. But sure my old car which is well over a decade old and still runs immaculately with tire shredding levels of power is evil?
And I presume you have studies that compare the health impacts?
And tire shredding is a health hazard","attachment":null,"posted":1712166908},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989380,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989250
List common examples in this thread.
>>1989254
People tend to be reactive when they protest - you usually don't see protests *for* something. Try to take away existing transit and pedestrian infrastructure or try to bulldoze houses for a new road, then you'll see protests.
>>1989285
>And you’re telling me I don’t have to go through a registration process for a bus pass or railway discount card? Don’t be daft.
>implying the registration process for those is anything other than a formality
>At least I’m not rude to people :))
YOU ARE ON FUCKING 4CHAN
>>1989286
>when nobody has any complaints about the current state of affairs.
[citation needed]
>>1989352
The world is at zero risk of overpopulation.","attachment":null,"posted":1712166969},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989336
>Quit moving goalposts
You did by insinuating that building housing causes slums. My position hasn't changed, I'm just informing you that single-family housing does not prevent slums.
>Overbuilding housing DOES have consequences.
Oh no, the consequences of affordable market-rate housing in desirable areas close to jobs and amenities! The horror! How could anyone want a variety of housing stock to accommodate people in each stage of their lives without forcing them to drive 10 miles just to get groceries! Oh the humanity!
>Pollution in enclosed environments is different than pollution in outside environments
Yes, it's much easier to filter and collect for disposal.
>Outside, weather and topography usually blows off pollution and particulates
Into the rivers and agricultural zones, where it then contaminates the food we eat and the water we drink.
>Why is the air quality in them still so bad then
Provide proof that the air quality in foreign metro stations is still poor even with platform barriers and updated ventilation. Because right now you're taking one example, NYC, and assuming that it applies across the board despite NYC being an incredibly old and underfunded system.
>Not enough has been accomplished
That's a great argument for providing more and consistent funding for transit agencies so they can make the same improvements other countries have.
>You’re more likely to get lung cancer on a metro than almost anywhere else aside from smoking
Strange, US asthma and heart and lung disease rates are climbing, but very few people are riding metro systems. So the exposure has to be coming from somewhere else. Countries that also use metro systems more than the US also aren't experiencing heart and lung disease epidemics. Hm, this air quality map seems to show that cars are driving up the PM2.5 concentration in the air, rather than metro rail. LA and the Inland Empire certainly don't have a metro system that big, but they all drive a lot.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712168758785176.png","filename":"tmp_e0678b0f-0c51-4943-93cb-a0d7fad0ef6e.png"},"posted":1712168758},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989392,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989386
The idea that "we should just build apartments anywhere and everywhere" is a common urbanist position. Problem is that when neighborhoods change (through new construction or just time), you're somehow scum for wanting to move out or create a new area where those problems don't exist.","attachment":null,"posted":1712171543},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989392
You are scum for replying to my post with completely unrelated bullshit","attachment":null,"posted":1712172253},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989379
2 hours on the Underground is comparable to about 24h standing next to london’s most polluted road. You’ll literally be sneezing black stuff if you spend a lot of time down there. Well documented fact that everyone knows - highly toxic environment. TfL would be obliged to shut the service if they admitted it was as bad as it is. Asbestos brake dust down there. They don’t even want to touch it in case it gets even worse. Easier to tax car users and blame them for london’s health issues instead.
“Glue eater logic” that’s been proven over and over. Are you even old enough to remember the Iraq war? Lol…
Yes the underground is worse for your health than being around cars. Air quality meters have proven it. As we already told you. But you ignored that bit.
4chan doesn’t give you an excuse to be rude. You only do your cause a disservice.
Coincidentally I don’t shred my tires whenever I get in the car. It’s well over $600 for a set. I’m not one of those morons who goes to takeovers in a dodge charger and acts like a brain damaged monkey. You purposely took that out of context and you know it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712183743},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989397
Dude just get out of here. You’re throwing out more pm2.5s than the entirety of London, LA and NYC combined with your salty rhetoric.","attachment":null,"posted":1712184461},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989443,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989437
>2 hours on the Underground is comparable to about 24h standing next to london’s most polluted road
[citation needed]
>Well documented fact that everyone knows - highly toxic environment.
[citation needed]
>Asbestos brake dust down there.
[citation needed]
>“Glue eater logic” that’s been proven over and over. Are you even old enough to remember the Iraq war? Lol…
Iraq War = public health is a lie? What?
>Yes the underground is worse for your health than being around cars. Air quality meters have proven it.
No they haven't, because you refuse to post comparisons.
>4chan doesn’t give you an excuse to be rude.
You are a normalfag parasite. Get the fuck off 4chan.","attachment":null,"posted":1712188268},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989447,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989443
He's right","attachment":null,"posted":1712189843},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989450,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"First thing on google you muppet","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712191212288285.jpg","filename":"2E60F1A2-995E-492D-814F-12680B86D38D.jpg"},"posted":1712191212},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Iraq war= proof governments don’t care about the citizens and only serve themselves. You wilfully take everything out of context because you take a fat L on everything","attachment":null,"posted":1712191293},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Oh look what I found. Here’s another fat L for you to hold","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712191374529224.png","filename":"B75BD9D5-57C9-4004-8CE0-DF3DACB399A3.png"},"posted":1712191374},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989455,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989443
>>1989450
>>1989453
urbanist status = obliterated","attachment":null,"posted":1712191616},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989456,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It had to be done. The guy is just going back and forth to waste peoples time. Every single thing you point out either gets “citation needed” when it’s easily verifiable by a 5 second google search or taken wildly out of context to deflect attention from the fact he’s repeatedly proven wrong. I hope you guys enjoy laughing at how much of a fool he’s made of himself. In the meantime stay safe and I wish you all a wonderful day :))","attachment":null,"posted":1712192158},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989458,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I was neither of the people in the discussion but "london underground has traces of asbestos" is not an "own" against public transit nor does it have anything to do with pollution, of which automobiles are significantly worse in every way compared to trains, especially tire particles.","attachment":null,"posted":1712192643},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989471,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989458
>Asbestos vs tire particulates
I'll take my chances with the tire particulates","attachment":null,"posted":1712198232},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It’s not just London.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712204065395333.jpg","filename":"A41D2BC5-2FA2-4010-912B-8EAA3DAFAA0A.jpg"},"posted":1712204065},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989512,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989450
>>1989451
>>1989453
>>1989456
>phoneposting without even giving links
>still fucking obsessing over politeness
>not knowing how to reply
Jesus Christ you really are a fucking election tourist boomer, aren't you?
With regard to your claims:
>asbestos
All sources agree that there are no asbestos brake shoes in use on the London Underground and that the asbestos that is there is unlikely to escape and pose a health risk.
https://www.oracleasbestos.com/blog/asbestos-on-the-london-underground/
https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/freedom-of-information/foi-request-detail?referenceId=FOI-2244-1718
>London Underground pollution study
This was heavily misreported by the media; the study only found that PM2.5 particulates were more present in the Underground than on the surface, not that pollution in general was worse. It also stated that "We do not think that the travelling public is at any serious or substantial risk from travelling underground".
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/769884/COMEAP_TfL_Statement.pdf
>Iraq war= proof governments don’t care about the citizens and only serve themselves
And how do you get from that to "always do opposite of what government says"?","attachment":null,"posted":1712234832},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989573,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You have drunk the kool aid.","attachment":null,"posted":1712258240},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989576,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989512
>the study only found that PM2.5 particulates were more present in the Underground than on the surface
Exactly, thank you","attachment":null,"posted":1712259221},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Imagine Khan telling people diesel particulates are bad for health then telling the public to use a subway that’s littered with more and worse types of particulates.
Governments are only interested in securing multi billion dollar contracts for their own benefit on a personal level and controlling the masses.
Iraq War - lied to the public about WMDs
COVID-19 vaccinations - more horrifying side effects are being exposed every week it seems
Ukraine aid - billions for nothing
Borders out of control - more worried about Ukraine and Israel than the Mexico border
US FDA - especially Fauci
Diesel promotion bait and switch in Europe
EVs are undergoing the same bait and switch scam as diesels did in Europe.
That’s not even all of it. If they’re telling you to use buses and trains it’s because they’ve got a nasty little surprise for you down the line and/or lining their pockets and aiming for a promotion after they get booted out the government by angry voters.","attachment":null,"posted":1712281202},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989634
>If they’re telling you to use buses and trains it’s because they’ve got a nasty little surprise for you down the line
There is no surprise.
Car vs public transit is nobles vs plebs eternal fight.
See for ages convenient and comfortable transportation was reserved for elites. It's elites who rode horses and carriages and plebs were dodging to side showered with mud, and if pleb got under nobles horse hooves that pleb was responsible.
Initially car continued that lane, cars was expensive so they price out plebs. But with time plebs suddenly can afford cars and they flooded streets. And that make elites cringe. Plebs that supposed to be behind wall are now invading living space of elites, clogging streets and slowing down elites carriages. Even more if elite driver hit pleb he can be responsible.
This what about, elites want to put genie back into bottle, remove plebs and their cars from the street and put them into cattle wagons. Elites themselves never plan to part with their personal carriages. See what London Mayor Khan drives.","attachment":null,"posted":1712296082},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989668
Spot on.
In communist Russia the party members had their own lanes. Says it all","attachment":null,"posted":1712316006},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989695,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"For perspective, Mayor Khan takes not one but three bulletproof Range Rovers worth £400,000 each.
In contrast the President of Argentina flies on business class to save the tax payers’ money.
Ones a socialist zealot and the other wants to reduce government and regulations. There’s this thing called leading by example. It’s very effective you know.","attachment":null,"posted":1712317405},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989634
>Imagine Khan telling people diesel particulates are bad for health then telling the public to use a subway that’s littered with more and worse types of particulates.
[citation needed]
Do I have to repeat the report's conclusion again?
>We do not think that the travelling public is at any serious or substantial risk from travelling underground"","attachment":null,"posted":1712318621},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989668
>And that make elites cringe
Elites dgaf. They have private jets and helicopters, superyachts, mansions, etc, all out of reach of the masses. If they want to drive their fancy cars with no commoners around, they go to a track and have fun with no speed limits or traffic. You are completely retarded thinking there's a conspiracy to turn regular streets back into rich-people only motorways, when they still have to deal with traffic from freight trucks, delivery and moving vans, city works and emergency vehicles, the list goes on.
>all this butthurt about the London mayor
He rides in a motorcade because of his position as mayor of the UK's capital city, not because he's rich. When he's no longer mayor, he may still have a chauffeur to drive him around, but you bet your ass he won't be in a motorcade.
>>1989695
>Mayor Khan takes not one but three bulletproof Range Rovers worth £400,000 each.
>conflating government vehicles with personal vehicles
Sadiq Khan's net worth is only like $5 million as far as I can tell. He's got money, but he's a far cry from being able to afford 1/5 his net worth in luxury vehicles to drive him around forever. ULEZ exemption is also only going to be a thing as long as he's mayor, once he leaves office he'll have to pay to drive into that zone.
>In contrast the President of Argentina flies on business class to save the tax payers’ money.
No fucking wonder Milei flies around, Argentina is 1/3 the size of the contiguous USA. It's a very large country. It would literally be more expensive if Khan flew everywhere in London on a helicopter.","attachment":null,"posted":1712340501},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989757,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989746
>Elites dgaf.
lol","attachment":null,"posted":1712345584},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989758,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989746
Ok tranny, keep licking that boot.","attachment":null,"posted":1712345705},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989757
>>1989758
>he thinks Melon Husk is trying to get the middle class to stop driving just so he can get stuck behind an 18 wheeler in his CyberBeast™
ngmi","attachment":null,"posted":1712346630},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989746
Milei flies business class instead of taking a private jet. Once again taking things out of context on purpose.
Mayors aren’t VIPs. The old mayor used to use the buses. This one doesn’t. I wonder why…
£12.50 a day is a drop in the bucket should he continue to live in London when he’s got a job that pays millions with even more influence and power lined up","attachment":null,"posted":1712355850},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989790,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Clearly you forgot that planes are public transport but because they are too effective (public transit that actually works) the state doesn’t like them.
Fact is the conservative one is taking measures to save his country money while the socialist cruises around in 3 bulletproof SUVs while telling Doris to scrap her Smart car and take the bus.
Hypocrisy. Such hypocrisy.","attachment":null,"posted":1712356003},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989794,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989789
>Milei flies business class instead of taking a private jet
Ha found it. He flew business class to Davos. I can't find anything about him flying the country's airline within Argentina itself, and if he flew Lufthansa rather than Aerolineas Argentinas to Europe, I doubt he would fly the national airline domestically. Undoubtedly he has a military or private aircraft for that. Knowing Argentina, his business class flight on Lufthansa was probably cheaper and nicer than Aerolineas Argentinas too.
>Mayors aren’t VIPs
Depends on the mayor. Mayor of a national capital, or a major multi-million person city? You could make a case for that. Mayor of a city of 30k-100k? Definitely not.
>The old mayor used to use the buses
I hope to god you aren't looking at fucking Boris through the rose colored glasses just because he was better at LARPing as middle class
>£12.50 a day is a drop in the bucket
Yeah, the congestion pricing should be higher to drive in London, but if he wants to pay it for the privilege of driving, that's his choice. I understand why he's exempt during his tenure in city office however.
>Fact is the conservative one is taking measures to save his country money
Imagine being so easily fooled by those optics lmao. He flew Lufthansa because Argentina's so fucking poor nothing in the country even meets that bar, and Lufthansa is cheaper than Aerolineas Argentinas either way.
>while the socialist cruises around in 3 bulletproof SUVs
Seeing as Khan has continually cut funding for London's public transit, I'd have a hard time classifying him as one even if that's what he calls himself.
>Doris to scrap her Smart car and take the bus.
I don't think you want to experience the congestion when every person in greater London tries to drive at once. You are geometrically illiterate. Maybe give this 10 minute explainer a go so you can understand why making everyone drive makes driving worse for everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHSCmQnGH9Q","attachment":null,"posted":1712358310},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989818,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989794
Dude you’re missing the point on purpose AGAIN.
The Argentinian president uses public transport. Mayor Khan does not despite claiming to be the one for the working class and equality.
Why should politicians be exempt from the rules they impose on the masses? Rules for thee but not for me. Proves everything I said is true.
Boris got off his bike to assist a lady who was being assaulted. It was in the news ages back. I agree with anyone who says he should be in The Hague but that’s another point. The one before him used to ride the London buses however, so yes it’s just Khan being a waste of tax payers money.
Khan is a socialist through and through. He’s a member and represents the most left wing of the main political parties in the U.K. - Labour. Cutting investment in public transport doesn’t mean he’s not a socialist. It means he’s run out of money or would rather spend it on vanity projects.
If he gets booted out the mayoral office he’ll clear off to a private island or country estate, the £12.50 charge won’t impact him no matter what car he uses. Should he choose to stay in London he’s so rich it won’t matter. He’ll be offered a much better paid job in the UN or something in return for his efforts in destroying London. That’ll easily offset a £12.50 charge should he have to pay it in the future.
And yet another deflection. He should lead by example. Yet again if London wasn’t full of LTNs and cycle lanes that nobody asked for the traffic wouldn’t be at a standstill. Create a problem then give a solution that still doesn’t fix it. Something governments are absolutely brilliant at. Your answer to everything is to regulate more. And it never works. It strangles economies. It makes life difficult. It makes people poorer. Have fun getting a tradie in London. Many are boycotting the zone because it’s costing them too much money. Or they add it to the price you pay. London is poo anyway. Same with LA and NYC","attachment":null,"posted":1712375927},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989819,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’ll be avoiding all these left wing dominated cities. They’re full of poverty and crime. You’re welcome to live in them. I’ve no reason to. Have fun getting mugged by a heroin addict while you’re waiting on the subway platform. Even worse for women, I might add. “Safe and effective” it most certainly isn’t. Rather like a certain medical procedure we heard an awful lot about recently. That was supposed to be for the peoples benefit too and look what happened.","attachment":null,"posted":1712376244},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989820,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989818
>Why should politicians be exempt from the rules they impose on the masses?
>The city should pay itself every time one of its vehicles enters the congestion zone
Fucking logically bankrupt lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1712376899},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989822,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989820
No u","attachment":null,"posted":1712378816},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989823,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Literally not gonna discuss with someone who supports a two tier society","attachment":null,"posted":1712378885},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989838,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989761
>screeching about muh elon out of nowhere
You will always be a worthless buck broken commie","attachment":null,"posted":1712388470},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989839,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989794
>don't believe your lying eyes, here's a deranged anti-car rant instead
Hello rabbi","attachment":null,"posted":1712388584},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989841,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989746
>Elites dgaf. They have private jets and helicopters, superyachts, mansions, etc, all out of reach of the masses. If they want to drive their fancy cars with no commoners around, they go to a track and have fun with no speed limits or traffic.
Here is the thing streets are only places where elites intersect with plebs, and do it with ose status.
Everywhere else you are right. Plebs are separated from elites by wall. Elites live in their closed community mansion and condos, where pleb can only enter if he was hired as servant. They shop in their boutique stores with face checks, eat on expensive restaurants, their "workplace" neo palaces are obviously are wallaed off to, with guards at the entrance.
Everywhere elites don't mix up with plebs. Except streets. When they're drive from their mansion to palace they encounter plebs driving over same streets, and more horrors they do it nearly with equal status. If elite driver t-bones pleb shitbox to the death elite driver has real chance to go to jail (of course rich have their ways withlaw but still it's not like it was during sweet feudal times).
Public streets are the Big problem. This is why elites so relentlessly assault plebs cars.","attachment":null,"posted":1712392575},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989871,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989841
Cars are the only thing considered a weapon by law that’s legal for public use in broad daylight across the world.
Cars are ideal candidates to replace the proverbial pitchforks","attachment":null,"posted":1712409901},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989888
Cars are legally considered weapons in at least some countries. It usually appears in prosecutions following police pursuits. You could swerve to avoid a collision or a spike strip and if a LEO happens to be in the way, you’ll get charged as such - even if you had no intention to run anyone over. So yes cars are considered weapons in law.","attachment":null,"posted":1712416912},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
i'd really like to see the source for this graph.","attachment":null,"posted":1712421246},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989921,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989895
Google it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712427264},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989921
fuck you you dumb fuck. you post a source for your graph or it came out of your ass.","attachment":null,"posted":1712429684},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1989954,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989790
yes because it's not like the us government subsides air travel outside the big cities because they wouldn't have it otherwise
oh wait it does
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_Air_Service","attachment":null,"posted":1712444125},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989929","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712474453123480.jpg","filename":"does_pacifier_cause_gas_featured.jpg"},"posted":1712474453},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989954
Government also subsides Amtrak , it still sucks.
Thereare good and working public transit services, and there are others.","attachment":null,"posted":1712474623},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990055,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990038
the point is that a) the state evidently doesn't hate air travel and b) without subsidies there'd be no air travel outside of the big cities you hate so much","attachment":null,"posted":1712483757},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990069,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989366
Literally a larger undeveloped forest to the left in your very specific cherrypicked example then I have ever seen in Europe
If this is the worst you got America is doing an amazing job","attachment":null,"posted":1712493817},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990071,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990055
Government doesn't create legislation, current government not the one that advocate this act in the past.","attachment":null,"posted":1712497024},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990099,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990071
why haven't they repealed it then retard","attachment":null,"posted":1712507799},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990099
Why does military aid bill for country fighting against Russian invasion is tied to US border control against illegal immigration bill?","attachment":null,"posted":1712565174},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990292,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988038
>It additionally disproves the constant communist propaganda that Americans "sit in traffic for 4 hours a day!!" when the reality is that Americans have relatively very short commutes.
You faggot, the ones lowering the average american commute time are people working in the countryside and those living in the inner city. Your suburban ass can get bent you disingenuous scum. Get gangraped by the nearest (((Dodge))) shareholder assembly you fucking cumguzzling son of a zoophilic freak.","attachment":null,"posted":1712589613},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988428
/thread, now let's just post pretty pictures.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712589697894570.jpg","filename":"1712524220175584.jpg"},"posted":1712589697},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990302,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988026
America is an ESL country, daily reminder.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712591778889118.jpg","filename":"1618301298710.jpg"},"posted":1712591778},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990069
america is gigantic, of course it has more forests. there's no excuse what the UK and germany did but that's what happens with hundreds of years of human occupation using mostly wood as a resource in a small area, it has nothing to do with american development being better for the environment. russia also has a shitload of untouched forest and nature and much of europe still does, japan is also one of the most urbanized countries in the world and retains much of it's nature, if the culture of the US was in any smaller of a country the entire thing would be parking lots.","attachment":null,"posted":1712591846},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990556,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990292
Vast majority of Americans live in suburbs. In fact more Europeans work on farming villages and urban cities than Americans. Farming is essentially a nonfactor in commuters vs the urban population. More urban populations have higher commute times since they don't have point to point commutes and have to have different modes of transport to commute.","attachment":null,"posted":1712681831},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990292
I live in the surburbs. My commute is 17 minutes. You commie faggot.","attachment":null,"posted":1712684088},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990665,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
now control for traffic fatalities","attachment":null,"posted":1712734442},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1990680,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I think the land use is a huge obstacle in most of the US. I was checking out some of the new stations that are about to open in Seattle's Link Light Rail, which seems to have one of the most ambitious expansion programs in the US. Pretty disappointing to see these new stations are located either in the middle of nothing or next to very low density residential areas.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712743747174856.jpg","filename":"web-system-expansion-mountlake-terrace-station-aerial-201908.jpg"},"posted":1712743747},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1992768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
i really dont think its as simple as this gtraph makes it out to be","attachment":null,"posted":1713830274},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1992773,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990680
>middle of nothing or next to very low density residential areas.
if the rail company is smart they're invested in the cheap property and going to develop it. this is what the Japanese rail companies did. they bought whatever was the cheapest land they could connect to the nearest city. then they built the line. then they built housing on all the cheap land along the line. all the men would ride twice a day to work and back. two fares per day per household. THEN they built a park with rides and shit at the terminus of the line, so then the wives would go there with the kids. that's one adult and however many children's fares there and back each time. then they paid admission to the park. they got rich.
I have no confidence any American rail company is smart enough to do this, but that's a proven way to make money and give your clients a better quality of life, so I'm sure they won't because who cares about the poors that ride the train lol","attachment":null,"posted":1713831350},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1992776,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992773
>I have no confidence any American rail company is smart enough to do this
They're government entities not companies and the government isn't interested in speculative real estate when they already have 100% guaranteed revenue","attachment":null,"posted":1713831588},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1992777,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990292
But he's right. Transit advocates like yourself unironically believe that most people in major cities travel an hour in each direction every day. I'm not sure why this is the case, either accidentally doubling one-way commute times, or deliberately lying. You can look at some maps here, and there are other sources that in most American metros, commute times are not nearly as long as it's pretended to be.
https://www.geotab.com/time-to-commute/","attachment":null,"posted":1713832207},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1992837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992777
and you faggots act like transit takes forever when you've just proven that it's usually only a 10-20 minute time penalty","attachment":null,"posted":1713874509},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993299,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992837
Which incidentally is probably not so high that the economic costs of the car make sense for the consumer. Theoretically cars give consumers leverage in their housing preferences, so housing prices might be more competitive since homebuyers can be serviced by developers that are building units at ever more distant, cheap locations, but for most of the job centers that relationship is collapsing as even new suburban homes become too expensive for the average worker. So no there is just expensive housing AND expensive transportation, which is really why this whole thing has become such an issue recently among millenials and zoomers. This didn't just come out of nowhere, it's literally just that millenials in particular are at a loss for how they benefit from this system because they can't afford houses where the jobs are, so at best they're renting in little shitholes within the city or decent apartments out of the city, and in the latter case they're driving on the highways and seeing their car as a money suck, and they're not getting equity in their housing for it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714062259},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993315,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993299
>This didn't just come out of nowhere, it's literally just that millenials in particular are at a loss for how they benefit from this system because they can't afford houses where the jobs are
Or maybe the jobs millenials are after are filled with useless managerial positions that only exist to bloat companies and make emancipated plebs wholly dependent on the system with no leverage of their position.","attachment":null,"posted":1714067861},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993317,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993315
Maybe you're gay.","attachment":null,"posted":1714067963},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993317
Maybe you shouldn't seek for partners as a replacement for your dad molesting you.","attachment":null,"posted":1714068435},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993319,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993318
Maybe.","attachment":null,"posted":1714068588},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993361,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
>commute by car
>post made by ford bot
>BEGONE DEMON
in the name of the father the son and the holy spirit","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714074190407554.jpg","filename":"JR_Central_Shinkansen_700.jpg"},"posted":1714074190},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993370,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993315
That doesn't matter, housing prices are still absurd for even above median incomes. The type of job doesn't matter, even if millenials were all working trade jobs and making 70k doing it they're trying to save a downpayment while renting and paying car notes, and the housing prices keep going up and the interest rates are high. AND car prices are high now even in the used market, so you have to scrounge for local deals. This is all an immense headache and feels like you can't get a break, and then boomers are blaming you for it while they sit on their own houses. You can make up whatever narrative you want to tell yourself but that is why this is happening. Car culture wasn't an issue throughout the post-war period. Traffic has been a thing and car ownership has been expensive for a long time, but people felt like it was shaking out because in general they were getting wealthier. Now, higher and higher percentages of young people are struggling to build wealth, so the obligatory costs of car ownership are irritating more of them. That's the whole explanation. I don't like cars, but I'm not delusional about this. If housing was generally affordable again I'd bet you anything that a significant chunk of the anti-car millenials would dissappear. Some would remain because of green politics and inertia, but if millenials could've had their yard and 3 bedroom house in their late 20s they'd probably just be doing the jaded office space thing, just lamenting how boring their comfortable life is. Instead they're staring at their bank accounts and living in apartments into their mid to late 30s and feeling like they don't have security, and their biggest asset is likely a depreciating car.","attachment":null,"posted":1714075184},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993372,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993370
By fixing the immigration problem and putting a stop(or even a dent) to the unrestricted and coddled real estate investment market 99% of the housing issues would be solved. But fed will import millions of people with low standards that will accept any housing and bail out the overinflated markets as long as it can so it won't get solved.","attachment":null,"posted":1714075555},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993375,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993372
Ah yes, all those welfare queen illegal immigrants who sit around all day collecting food stamps while they drive up the prices of housing by purchasing entire tracts of mcmansions in cash. Another brilliant /n/ take on "the housing crisis" which becomes a pretext for "here's a pile of really bad ideas we need to implement nao and these are the only ways for you, a zoomer, to get free giebs"","attachment":null,"posted":1714075856},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993376,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993375
Sorry didn't see any reason in your buzzwords, could you put it into coherent speech so that white people can understand what you're trying to say?","attachment":null,"posted":1714075957},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993376
I'm familiar with these types, I'll translate:
"actually it's white people's fault, you racist."","attachment":null,"posted":1714076079},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993377
Thank you for your service, nigger whisperer. At last i truly see.","attachment":null,"posted":1714076171},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993376
I just took >>1993372 and distilled it down to its basic "argument" which, as you now see, was incoherent","attachment":null,"posted":1714076552},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993386,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993383
wypipo call that a strawman because it's fallacious but i can see a POC having trouble comprehending basic English language","attachment":null,"posted":1714076695},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993391,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993386
Let me help you out because you clearly didn't go to college nor are you a participant in the real estate market: You don't need to be an immigrant to buy housing in the US. You don't even need to be a resident. Wetbacks swimming across the rio grande are not why you can't afford a fancy loft apartment in the cool part of town. The reason you can't afford that is that you are a NEET. No amount of crying about this on /n/ is going to fix that.","attachment":null,"posted":1714076925},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993393,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993391
I didn't say any of those things, which is why i mentioned strawmanning. You're clearly angry at me for poinging out that immigrants are a big part of the housing problem so now you're trying to get back at me like that. I don't care, go pick some cotton or rob a store or something.","attachment":null,"posted":1714077070},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993396,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993393
It's ok to admit you don't know what you're talking about. I'm sure it's nothing new for you.","attachment":null,"posted":1714077362},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993396
I would if i didn't know what i'm talking about. Unfortunately for you, i do and talk about it instead and that makes you seethe relentlessly.","attachment":null,"posted":1714077585},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993400,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993398
It's pretty obvious you don't understand the basics of capitalism, but those of us with an IQ that starts with "1" (i.e., not you) don't consider an ongoing string of "nu-uh no u" to be an interesting discussion, so I guess you'll have to post your snarky reply, confident that you pwned another libtard/nignog/whatever.","attachment":null,"posted":1714077908},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993402,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993400
I'll have to post a snarky reply bemusing a nigger talking about IQ because that's the most substance your whining has ever produced, communist rambings about capitalism notwithstanding.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714078063772894.jpg","filename":"904e80a1c9cfb8c14233b4ad2631a4bfdb0a982d48417a029a0b36221268aa19.jpg"},"posted":1714078063},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hey guys I'm real smart and you should listen to me. I'm one of the smart people. I have a high IQ. I went to college. I'm not like those people who didn't go to college, I'm smart.","attachment":null,"posted":1714085482},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993468,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993361
Praise be to JR","attachment":null,"posted":1714100346},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987991
the two statements are not unrelated. Both are about commute times.
Be better (next time)","attachment":null,"posted":1714101567},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988562
look at these BUGPODS lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1714101747},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993485,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988562
Amerisharts build their shelters like parking lots
Dios mio
At this point it’s some kind of freaky fetish","attachment":null,"posted":1714104267},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993653,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I can’t believe this thread is still going. Too many people in America that simply shouldn’t be there. Illegal immigration and urbanism are an absolute plague.
A lot of urbanist Americans who point to Europe don’t have a clue what they’re on about, frankly. Much of Europe is very much pedestrian friendly and you can get buses or trains in most areas. My friend in Poland uses the bus all the time with no issues. It’s great that the choice is there.
The problem is these urbanists don’t stop there. They won’t rest until we are all equal. I mean more accurately, all equally poor. They’ll block off roads under the pretext of making it better for pedestrians and cyclists yet there were never any access issues in the first place.
I could totally get behind adding sidewalks and all that. But it costs money so instead the local authorities simply narrow the road and install a bike lane. Not many people use it and the huge numbers of drivers start complaining about congestion that previously didn’t exist. The urbanists then say it’s a cultural problem and that society needs an overhaul. It’s literally cultural Marxism in action.","attachment":null,"posted":1714215322},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993653
I think you're confused, urbanism is all about ethnic cleansing and eugenics. You're on the same team here bud. Friendly fire. Blue on blue.","attachment":null,"posted":1714220358},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993668
Eh, I just want to be able to use EITHER method without being subject to government overreach, but the huge number of illegals is overloading public services including the road network and public transport. Making this possible would mean spending tax payers money on the citizens for once, instead of throwing it down the drain on vanity projects and foreign wars. We should be worrying about our own borders, not Ukraine’s. I like what Vivek Ramaswamy said about how we can build a better world by focusing on ourselves rather than flying off to globalist conferences","attachment":null,"posted":1714221697},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993674,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993673
>I like what a brown immigrant said about banning immigration and international travel","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714222157194999.png","filename":"KKKN0.png"},"posted":1714222157},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993674
Ngl that’s pretty funny","attachment":null,"posted":1714228708},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
Now post carbon emissions, roadkill, amount of car crashes, strodes and cost","attachment":null,"posted":1714276381},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993805
Not my problem.","attachment":null,"posted":1714306601},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993852,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993805
CO2 is not a pollutant, you should become a roadkill.","attachment":null,"posted":1714306793},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993853,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
The USA was built from the ground up in not too recent time. Alot of development is fairly recent even. Most of the infrastructure was originally built for the motorcar and with the motorcar in mind.
You are comparing this situation to areas that have naturally grown for millenia without the motorcar even being a thing yet. People there jumped om the bandwagon of cagie craze and tried adapting existing infrastructure to the motorcar.
There is no reason to be surprised it works even worse than in an area like mentioned before.
Also italians have low commute times because if you don't work your commute is 0.","attachment":null,"posted":1714307837},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993653
There are two types of urbanist, regressives and revivalist. Revivalist want to make neighborhoods more beautiful, quieter, and less like a freeway by actually understanding the traffic situation and finding areas of improvement. They want transit so that people can get around in different ways. They want to emulate good models of transit from elsewhere in their own home city.
Regressives see urbanism as a path of social justice. They go on Plebbit and whine about cars all day. They once watched a Vox video telling them how highways were racist and tore up black neighborhoods, and now think tearing down every highway is a solution, and their ideas of "traffic calmed neighborhoods" means absolutely no vehicles, even ignoring delivery trucks and haulage. They're a lazy imitation of the nuanced opinions you see on most urban revival forums.","attachment":null,"posted":1714308025},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993860,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993855
A lot of them are throwing quality of life out of the equation. So many arguments are centred around efficiency. And if you say anything contrary you’re a selfish bigot, according to them. The interesting thing is that a lot of urbanists are left wing or at least left leaning, but at the same time the government and big businesses absolutely love urbanism because they can maximise profits and control. It’s like intensive farming. Same basic principles. A lot of it is driven by envy or general dislike for cars, as it has become fashionable to dislike private motorised transport.
I was recently in a village. It was beautiful. But it was also empty. Nobody there. About the most life you saw was some birds or something. It’s an unfortunate fact that humans are loud, noisy, smelly and messy. If you live in a city you have to put up with it. If they’re not revving cars with pop and bang maps at 4 am they are playing loud music in the apartment next door or letting their dogs bark for hours. Part of the reason public transport works so well in Japan is the culture of respect. You’d get thrown off if you tried to be one of those stereotypical loud mouths who has to tell the whole room your life story. I’m all for minimal regulations and dealing with the actual troublemakers instead of laying down blanket rules and ruining everyone’s fun or quality of life","attachment":null,"posted":1714309245},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993868,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993860
>A lot of them are throwing quality of life out of the equation
>being able to afford to live within walking/biking distance of your job, friends, public spaces, grocers and stores, and healthcare is poor quality of life
Grow the fuck up man.
>It’s an unfortunate fact that humans are loud, noisy, smelly and messy
>proceeds to bitch about car noises
Like pottery","attachment":null,"posted":1714310859},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993872,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993868
Not complaining about car noises, I’m literally planning to run a high flow exhaust with a resonator delete among other things. Difference is I don’t go 2 step rev banging or drifting in the hood. Furthermore I have a shop in walking distance. Two actually. Both are expensive cause there’s little competition unless you hop in a car and drive some distance. You urbanists don’t have a clue what you’re talking about most of the time. As the other post said, some want to improve transport links and others are just moaning about traffic for the sake of it","attachment":null,"posted":1714312298},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993868
You’re also assuming your job and needs will (A) all be provided for and (B) affordable. It’s common here to hop in a car and drive to get to shops that are further away because it saves money. If I’m only able to go to one within walking distance you bet they’ll put the prices up. They can and they do. Then you’ve got the fact that rich people will get all the best stuff while the poorer of society will have second rate services. You’ve basically introduced segregation, well done. There’s absolutely no guarantee a job will be available for my skill set in the locality either. unless we all go back to farming and have work on our literal doorstep, you will continue to see commuting. But nobody wants that life, it’s hard and stressful.","attachment":null,"posted":1714312620},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993905,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993872
>Not complaining about car noises, I’m literally planning to run a high flow exhaust with a resonator delete among other things
>complains about other people's car noises
>is literally modifying his car to make it louder and more annoying to everyone else","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714325306088969.gif","filename":"casablanca-shocked.gif"},"posted":1714325306},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993906,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993905
I just said the problem is with people making a huge noise in residential areas at night you moron. Not people driving past my home going to work in a vehicle they’ve customised. All you can do is take what I said out of context. Cope.","attachment":null,"posted":1714325792},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993905
Plus you don’t know what car I have, where I live or when I drive it. You know absolutely nothing at all. I have to listen to kids revving dirt bikes round and round the area but it’s just part of living in a society with human beings around. Go to the countryside and you’ll have roosters waking you up at the first ray of sunlight. Clown","attachment":null,"posted":1714325915},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993909,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Funny thing is, I actually spent a lot of time in an apartment in the middle of a city. The type of lifestyle urbanists drool at. It was awful. Allow me to explain.
>sleep was impossible on weekends due to nightclubs being so loud you can hear the bass up and down the street
>drunks and generally noisy people at all hours of the day and night
>buses making the windows rattle
>no yard or garden
>drunks urinating on your front door
>generally noisy and dirty environment
In short, inner city urban life sucks. If you like it, great. But there’s a reason people moved to suburbs. The automotive industry simply cashed in on what the public already wanted.","attachment":null,"posted":1714326795},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993909
>I lived in a shitty apartment above a nightclub
Are you an undocumented day laborer or a sex offender or why did you choose that particular apartment?","attachment":null,"posted":1714329848},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993915,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993913
Again you misrepresent what I said. I clearly stated the noise was so loud you could hear it up and down the street. As for choosing to live there, who are you to judge? You’ve absolutely no idea. When people are poor they take what they can get. You still can’t address the other issues I mentioned because you know it’s true, as does everyone else. You’re welcome to it but suburbs are much nicer places to be. I’m so sorry I don’t want to live next to a nightclub (even though I love underground EDM) or have a warehouse with forklifts and trucks beeping next door. Or live next to a railway depot. I’m so sorry I don’t want to have drunks using my front door as a toilet or have drug addicts and beggars accosting me as soon as I set foot outside my home. If you want to put up with it for the convenience of shops nearby, go for it. It’s not like you can’t already do it. But please don’t ruin life for the rest of us","attachment":null,"posted":1714330667},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993918,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Because all that I mentioned before is the reality of urban life. It’s awful. Or you might have noisy neighbours moaning loudly at the weekends.. dog poo all out by your front door. I could go on and on and on. It’s not what it’s cracked up to be. Hey I’ve when had dogs chase me while riding my bike home from work (mountain bike not a motorbike). So once again, the real problem is PEOPLE. The higher the population density the more annoyances per square kilometre you have. It’s disgusting in my opinion. But nobody is stopping you from living that dream if it’s what you want for yourself.","attachment":null,"posted":1714330930},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993919,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993915
Didn't know I was giving free therapy sessions but I hope you feel better now.
Shitty places exist for poor people in the suburbs too, you just don't notice until later when you have stage 4 bone cancer at 31 because your house was built on a dump site. Or did you think suburbs magically had an egalitarian way of sharing out the good land to poors.","attachment":null,"posted":1714331126},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993919
All you can do is throw insults at me because everything I said about mixed urban planning is true. You can get poor quality housing anywhere but that doesn’t change the validity of what I said. Go to Africa and you’ll find people sifting through toxic garbage dumps and doing informal mining without appropriate PPE or health and safety. again, none of that changes anything I’ve said. I have literally had dogs chase me while riding my bicycle to work as any “model citizen” would. My brother got bitten by a dog while running. It’s the kind of problem you get when you have people around. The more people you have the more problems you get, hence for decades families preferred lower density suburbs with more space for their kids.. yawn","attachment":null,"posted":1714331936},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You can’t comprehend that someone could have experienced both sides and decided that urban life isn’t a utopia. It shows how narrow minded and absurdly ideological you are. Spoiler alert most people can’t afford millionaires housing. I’m not gonna squash up with room mates because the rent is 4x higher than I can afford on my own. That’s typical of big cities like New York, London, etc.
One of the biggest reasons people aren’t having families is because urbanists are forcing people into sky high population densities where it’s impossible to get family sized accommodation. Personally it doesn’t affect me but an awful lot of experts believe there won’t be enough young workers paying into the pension funds. Also the fact it’s normal for people to want a family. Urbanism makes it much more difficult. Imagine trying to go to sleep as a new mother and you get woken up 5 minutes later because the neighbours downstairs decided to start violin practice or the pitbull started barking? Awful","attachment":null,"posted":1714332336},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993924,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993922
Nothing I said was an insult to anyone. Yes, it sucks to be poor. You're either living on top of a landfill, or in a landfill, or inside a bus depot. The logical thing to say here would be that we should work on solving poverty but you're just going to scream about communism so let's just agree to disagree on everything, even though I was initially somewhat sympathetic to the points you looked like you were attempting to make.","attachment":null,"posted":1714332373},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993926,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993924
Specifically it was a place my relatives got while studying at university. They’ve since moved on and live amazing lifestyles but I digress. I live in a reasonably decent area with low crime rates and good public transport nearby but I usually either drive or walk, or use my bike for leisure. As per the communist stuff all I want is the government to quit regulating everything and taxing us to death. It wouldn’t be so bad if they actually spent the money on public services but they don’t. It gets thrown away on Ukraine and Net Zero. We could have decent transit and cheaper housing if those two things + proper border control was a thing. The other issue is as a society we need to have more respect. As I’ve said before in Japan you can’t be a blabbermouth on public transport or you’ll get kicked off. Stuff like that. Tidy up the subway networks. It’s rather disconcerting hearing warnings about violence and theft in such places. I know because a relative recently heard such a warning announcement in a railway station. I’ve no doubt you’ll probably disagree at least on net zero but I firmly believe we need to get the basics right first before we try anything more advanced. I’m pretty fortunate having the best of both worlds so to speak. But I fear the anti car crusade will continue to make my options narrower despite the place currently being great for any method of transport you choose to use.","attachment":null,"posted":1714333330},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993926
Oh, it's you again. I see what the insult was. It was being compared to a migrant worker. You didn't have any issues with the sex offender part because libertarians are all about getting big gubmint off our backs (you're not a pedophile you're an ephebophile!) Except when it's about getting medical care, in which case the government's role is to make women give birth, so that there will be more adults to shoot and toss in gravel pits later.
It would be ideal if you could get a trip so I can spot your craziness sooner and just not bother replying.","attachment":null,"posted":1714333858},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993929
Lol as if anyone would take you seriously anyway. I pointed out the real world implications of urban life and you blamed me for being too poor to afford an expensive condo type home built for multi millionaires. It’s not what it’s cracked up to be and you know it. This is why urbanism is a plague. It’s all based on a fictitious utopia that’ll never exist, it’s based on the presumption that everyone will be nice and respectful to each other. It’s based on corporations not cheating out on the services they’re supposed to provide. It’s based on the authorities not using bait and switch tactics to generate enormous revenue at our expense.
My points still stand and I’ll wait for someone to provide any significant evidence to the contrary","attachment":null,"posted":1714335125},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993950,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993874
all that's still true if nothing's in walking distance retard, because there's a limit to how far driving is practical","attachment":null,"posted":1714340564},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993954,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993874
It is currently unaffordable to live in close to major job centers, IE urban areas, because there is not enough housing in those areas. The YIMBY platform is literally to densify those areas. More housing in desirable areas = lower prices for housing. It is literally as simple as supply and demand.
>If I’m only able to go to one within walking distance you bet they’ll put the prices up
First off, what would prevent you from shopping at a store several miles away as opposed to across the street? Second, stores charge what the market will bear. If they're somehow so expensive that it makes sense for people to bike/drive/take transit to somewhere farther away, they won't be in business for long.
>Then you’ve got the fact that rich people will get all the best stuff while the poorer of society will have second rate services
As already happens now because incumbent landowners vehemently lobby against building new homes while their own home values skyrocket and working class people get pushed to the periphery? And then they have the temerity to bitch about their property taxes being high? Miss me with that bullshit, even under the current broken property tax system in the US more density would mean more city revenue, and ergo a greater ability to fund police, fire departments, transit, and other city services. Land-value tax reform, which is another part of the YIMBY platform, would go even further in ensuring that incumbent landowners are paying their share by making them pay the value of their land, not the value of whatever shitty parking lot or crackhouse is sitting on it. Land is finite, so it makes sense that if you want to keep a valuable plot of land near downtown for your own personal use, you should be paying for that luxury. Otherwise, you can get yourself a cheaper plot outside the city and commute in. That's a tradeoff you can make.","attachment":null,"posted":1714340731},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993956,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993906
>I just said the problem is with people making a huge noise in residential areas at night you moron
And cars without mufflers do that. Cars with mufflers also do that because we've put incentivized car travel over everything else, even in the densest areas of our country where it makes the least sense. I've looked at homes adjacent to freeways because they were more affordable. I chose not to move there because even late in the evenings, the sound of traffic is a constant roar that isn't fully blocked out by the building's soundproofing. Fuck that shit.
>Plus you don’t know what car I have, where I live or when I drive it
Don't need to fag, I also live in society. I've heard every fucking manner of customized and stock car. They're all noisy unless it's an EV creeping through a parking lot, no matter if you live in the city or a suburb.
>bitching about roosters
>thinking anybody fucking cares about a rooster crowing for 5 minutes
Absolutely hysterical","attachment":null,"posted":1714341187},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993960,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993956
I rarely drive my car at night plus it’s still quieter than the average loudmouth Karen you see on the bus kek","attachment":null,"posted":1714341563},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993954
>All the blue states that’ve gone all urbanist are outrageously expensive to live in. Developers build on every bit of land they can get their grubby mitts on already, whether it’s suitable for human habitation or not.
>The mixed development can’t possibly keep up with local job demand. You’d have to have accommodation bolted onto factories and offices made specifically for the staff. You’re still going to need commuting.
>who lugs heavy bags of shopping several miles home, possibly with kids in tow? You probably will already be walking or biking at least 15 minutes so it’s reasonable to add another 10-15 on top of that for a few extra miles. Again you presume weather is nice, there’s no drug addicts waiting to help themselves from your bike’s basket..
You clearly fail to understand basic economics. Once competition is reduced, businesses charge more. It’s what they always do. It gets even worse as urbanist city authorities tend to be run by democrats who have practically decriminalised shoplifting. Watch the shops migrate to areas outside the city limits to get away from the thieves who are less likely to have access to a car.
>My point about the segregation was this:
When the cars and motorbikes have been taxed and regulated out of existence for the masses, you’ll be restricted to whatever is within walking distance. Bicycles are already getting more and more expensive, I might add - although that’s a by the way. You will probably need to use public transport to gain access to alternative service providers and shops. So (currently) if you’re from a poor area, nothing is stopping you from getting in a car and travelling to the other side of town to go to the better gym in the rich part of the city. But when the private motorised transport is gone you’ll have to make do with whatever is available locally. If it happens to be poor… well oh dear, too bad. You’ll just have to make do.","attachment":null,"posted":1714342880},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993972,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993954
>More housing in desirable areas = lower prices for housing
Where has this happened?","attachment":null,"posted":1714344132},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993980,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993972
Literally Austin, Texas, picrel
Relative to the rest of the US, Austin's rent is the lowest it has been in a decade.
My own city, Atlanta, also has dropping rents thanks to new multifamily construction, though not nearly to the same extent since we aren't building near as much as Austin is. Rent on the unit I live in is down around 8% from 2020.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714347599376777.png","filename":"20240427_074204.png"},"posted":1714347599},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Typical urbanist ideology:
>weather is always good
>drug addicts and thieves aren’t running riot
>buses and trains actually run on time
>poorer areas are actually served by public transport
>neighbours in high density housing don’t make excessive noise or cause nuisance
>most people can get work suitable for their skill set in walking distance or easily accessible by public transport
>governments won’t use a Chinese style credit score to prevent you from using public transport if you disagree with whatever happens to be the current bandwagon
>people are ok sharing a single room with two or 3 other people in a tiny apartment
>people have stopped dreaming about getting married or finding a partner and having kids
>people no longer want pets
Spoiler alert, none of these things are a reality and unless the government implements theoretical mind control through 5G towers or satellite transmitters nothing will change.
These crazies are seriously telling us to hop on the bus or subway when there’s literal warnings about theft and violence being played by the operatives. Guess they’ve no consideration for women’s safety or the disabled. Even a 6 ft man isn’t gonna get very far against a sneak attack or an armed gang
TL;DR urbanists can’t even get the basics necessary for making a city safe enough for walking to even be a smart idea much less remove the safety net of cars and motorcycles.
I’m considering moving to a third world country if it gets significantly worse here. Illegals get treated better than veterans who put their life on the line to keep us safe. Utterly disgusting and the traitors in government should be thrown in prison along with the dodgy people they allowed over the border without question","attachment":null,"posted":1714350656},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1993997,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The urban planning community is suburban commies who can't afford to live in a city. They literally think HSR will take them to every town possible instead of just connecting major cities.","attachment":null,"posted":1714350869},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994012,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993997
“High speed rail” haha what a joke. If the trains aren’t broken down they are some slow creaky things that should’ve been replaced decades ago. Bullet trains would’ve been nice. Well.. we can only dream","attachment":null,"posted":1714352087},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994019,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993993
holy reddit spacing","attachment":null,"posted":1714352671},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993993
typical suburbanite ideology:
>I'm a pussy and I'm scared of the world","attachment":null,"posted":1714352732},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994023,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993993
tl;dr
>i'm a typical suburbanite pussy and I'm scared of the world","attachment":null,"posted":1714352795},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994031,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You know you’ve lost when all you can do is throw insults. Oh well leftists were always about emotion rather than logic","attachment":null,"posted":1714353800},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994059,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993964
>You clearly fail to understand basic economics. Once competition is reduced, businesses charge more
>anon assumes it's just gonna be bigbox Target serving everyone within a 15 minute walk
Dumb AF. One of the benefits of density is you get the population to support more small businesses. Bakeries, tailors, grocers, etc. In existing dense and walkable areas you have multiple of these and they all have to compete with each other. Prices are marginally higher than big-box because they lack the same economy of scale, but the small grocer isn't going to charge you $10 for a gallon of milk unless you're intentionally buying some non-GMO hormone-free farm-to-table buzzword bullshit. Every place I've lived in and visited like this has a chain grocer anyways.
>inb4 but what if they charge me 5000% over sticker on my new dish washer????
Buy it online you utterly incompetent manchild, all the appliance shops give you free delivery and $50 installation
>It gets even worse as urbanist city authorities tend to be run by democrats who have practically decriminalised shoplifting
>he fell for the FOX bullshit
The stores that closed and moved in SF were already underperforming prior to the organized shoplifting. Shoplifting is just a convenient excuse for them to close the store, since hilariously enough the shoplifting rings were taking less than every other individual shrink factor. Damage/loss during shipment, internal theft, etc. Not excusing it, I and most democrats believe laws should be enforced and it's well known that a vast majority of the viral shoplifting is done by a couple organized crime rings. Several have been recently busted:
>https://moneywise.com/news/top-stories/surburban-mom-arrested-for-crime-ring
The other half of the problem is that police in many blue cities just aren't fucking working any more regardless of what the DA's policies are. You can see this by looking at traffic enforcement stats, police just aren't enforcing shit anymore.","attachment":null,"posted":1714358463},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994061,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993964
>When the cars and motorbikes have been taxed and regulated out of existence for the masses
Give an example of this actually occurring. Because right now the only case for this exists in your conspiracy-addled brain.
>Bicycles are already getting more and more expensive
Bikes are cheap AF, and even a basic bitch ebike is barely a thousand dollars. That's a fuckload cheaper out the gate than a $20k car, far cheaper to maintain, and even a kid can ride one instead of having to wait till he's 16 for a license.
>You will probably need to use public transport
Expanding the reach and frequency of public transport is a good thing.
>So (currently) if you’re from a poor area, nothing is stopping you from getting in a car and travelling to the other side of town to go to the better gym in the rich part of the city
You have to be underage if you legitimately think people are driving that fucking far in an American city just to go to a gym. This is the dumbest example you could have possibly given.
>But when the private motorised transport is gone
In no developed country is this the case or will this be the case.
>captcha","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714358524394145.png","filename":"ss+(2024-04-28+at+10.41.37).png"},"posted":1714358524},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994106,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994059
>Dumb AF. One of the benefits of density is you get the population to support more small businesses. Bakeries, tailors, grocers, etc. In existing dense and walkable areas you have multiple of these and they all have to compete with each other. Prices are marginally higher than big-box because they lack the same economy of scale, but the small grocer isn't going to charge you $10 for a gallon of milk unless you're intentionally buying some non-GMO hormone-free farm-to-table buzzword bullshit. Every place I've lived in and visited like this has a chain grocer anyways.
Buy it online you utterly incompetent manchild","attachment":null,"posted":1714368027},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994109,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994061
>Expanding the reach and frequency of public transport is a good thing.
Not when nobody that pays for it is using it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714368229},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994144,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994059
Every single person with a brain knows bakers and grocers are much more expensive than supermarkets kek
Democrat run states have high crime rates. It’s a fact. You literally don’t even maintain public safety. California is absolutely awful. Famously bad. You care to explain why people are moving out? Blue state= woke police chiefs= poor recruitment process and cops having their hands tied. Too busy chasing down hurty words rather than real crime. You admit yourself the police aren’t doing their jobs. You’re right, they’re too busy investigating that one guy with a funny orange hair cut.","attachment":null,"posted":1714381185},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994145,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994061
Are you blind? Skyrocketing gas prices. California wants to restrict the use of old cars. The EU has said they are considering banning the repair of “residual” vehicles aged more than 15 years. Low emission and congestion zones making driving prohibitively expensive for the masses. Absolutely not a theory at all.
In what world do you need to pay $20k for a car. That’s what posers do. Go buy a Kia or Hyundai or small Toyota rather than that huge truck. And I said bikes are getting more expensive. I remember decent bikes being hundreds of dollars cheaper. Prices are still going up. Again that wasn’t even the focal point.
Needing to use public transport is not a good thing even by urbanist logic, you guys always place walking above everything else. Again have fun when the cars are gone and the bus company decides it’s not profitable to run a service in poor areas and cuts it off. No sane person hands control of their affairs over to big businesses or the state except commie ideologues and high school kids who don’t know any better","attachment":null,"posted":1714381706},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994146,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"But you know, you can only deflect blame and call everything else a conspiracy theory. The fact blue states are overrun by crime and violence while the more conservative thinking red states have less of an issue is very telling. But hey let’s just blame it on the police being lazy, right? I bet you were crying defund the police after a certain junkie died while being arrested. Like I said, get your cities public safety in order before you start trying to manage people’s transport, you can’t even do that much kek. I’ll stick with my car thanks.","attachment":null,"posted":1714381930},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994147,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994144
>woke police chiefs
That isn't a thing, stop consuming news corp garbage","attachment":null,"posted":1714382539},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994151,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994145
>motoring more expensive
probably the same croud who likes to insinuate on a regular basis
>you must be poor if you dont drive a car
and also
>i can get to more affordable shops by car compared to the overpriced bakery on my block","attachment":null,"posted":1714383531},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993997
the HSR lines are connected to slower regional lines that act as feeders retard
>>1994145
>The EU has said they are considering banning the repair of “residual” vehicles aged more than 15 years
fake news
https://www.jgclassics.com/en/2024/02/07/does-the-european-union-intend-to-ban-the-repair-of-old-cars/","attachment":null,"posted":1714386117},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994168,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994167
It’s been discussed already. The fact it was even considered is absurd. That was like 2 months ago as well. They’ve got enough worries with angry farmers already without adding to it. Facepalm","attachment":null,"posted":1714387062},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994169,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Thread is autistic anyway. Everything is either a conspiracy theory or deflect blame onto someone/thing else. Urbanism is a left wing ideology and the states/countries that try to implement it all have the same horrendous crime rates and high taxes.
P.S. cars used to be cheap to run. It’s urbanists and net zero shills who’ve made them less affordable.
Just to rattle your cages even more, #Trump2024 =)","attachment":null,"posted":1714387413},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994169
You're a moron but I appreciate what you're doing which is showing why the cancerous "urban planning" discussion doesn't belong here and should be sent to /pol/ where it belongs","attachment":null,"posted":1714388102},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994172,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994106
That would negate the purpose of buying something fresh from the bakery. Sure you aren't underaged? You can't seem to tell the difference between a perishable and non-perishable good.","attachment":null,"posted":1714388434},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994174,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994109
We live in a society. If you want the benefits, your taxes will continue to fund infrastructure for the good of everyone. If you don't like that, kys.","attachment":null,"posted":1714388604},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994190,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994172
Bakeries sell nothing but carb heavy foods that make you fat. Carnivorous diet is where it’s at but you guys moan at us for eating steaks cause muh climate change. You keep changing the subject to deflect blame. Laughable","attachment":null,"posted":1714395997},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994192,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994171
You’re right it is cancerous and you’re very welcome to disagree with me and all the other “car brains” as we are so often mockingly called. Unfortunately because urbanism demands heavy bias towards public transport they always swarm the transport boards & sometimes pop up in the auto boards to start arguments with car enthusiasts (especially truck owners).
I thought this board was supposed to be about technological advancements and ways to improve things or discuss new ideas rather than cry about the fact the USA isn’t the Netherlands. The admins may as well make a NJB board for them at this point","attachment":null,"posted":1714396470},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994197,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994192
So you're basically just admitting you're not even here to discuss transportation, you just want to shit up the board because someone hurt your fee fees on /o/. You and the urbanist yimby /r/fuckcars crowd are basically fraternal twins at this point, it's a shame you can't be confined to /d/ where you can have twincest together jerking each other off over your irrelevant /pol/ garbage","attachment":null,"posted":1714398015},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994201,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994197
I read a lot more than I post, so make of that what you will. However as has been noted by other people in the past they do like to pop up at every little chance to complain about how walking is impossible and we should aim to emulate the Dutch. It doesn’t matter if it’s someone making a post about rising gas prices or congestion or the trains being broken down, you’ll see them pop up and somehow blame it on traditional American urban planning and the use of private cars and motorcycles.
All that said, it was a thread started about commute times, clearly aimed at the public transport vs private cars debate. urbanists and drivers alike were bound to jump in.","attachment":null,"posted":1714398768},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994227,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994174
We live in a society, if you want benefits, stop being a worthless leech that is a net negative on it even without all the money you siphon into your pointless life.","attachment":null,"posted":1714406865},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994229,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994227
Oh, and if you don't like that you belong in the incinerator.","attachment":null,"posted":1714406999},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994323,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993980
>Anon proves something on a graph without a labeled y-axis
Discarded
>Anon boasts about paying rent
Sorry. I meant real housing","attachment":null,"posted":1714438249},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1987587
Why are westoids like this?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714500788009961.jpg","filename":"1836455645677.jpg"},"posted":1714500788},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994454,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994449
There's a lot of uninhabited land in the southwest, so it is impossible to build a decent rail link between NYC and Boston because someone in that uninhabited wasteland might get butthurt. But don't worry elon levy showed that if you just don't build any stops and weld all the doors shut then nobody on board the train can be inconvenienced by handicaps or browns","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714504893785873.png","filename":"8dzcdp.png"},"posted":1714504893},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994455,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"America has objectively the most car deaths in the world.","attachment":null,"posted":1714504969},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Haven't read everything here. I'll comment on OP's commute time comparison. In the Netherlands and my guess is also for a lot of other Euro countries. Commute time is this "low" because of public transport. If we'd cancel our public transport we wouldn't get lower commute times. Quite the contrary.
American cities are built very grid-like. Which is very specious and allows for multiple lane roads within cities. We do not have that space. Inner city travel is always going to be quicker using public transport here in NL.
Another problem over here is our current housing crisis. Much of that has to do with poor policies. But that's another debate. Amsterdam has over 50% social housing. Anyone with a regular job cannot afford to live in the city. Most people who work in Amsterdam therefore do not live in Amsterdam. Trains during rush hour are completely overloaded. Despite our public transport being the most expensive in Europe by far. Parking in Amsterdam is equally the most expensive in the country. Using a car for many is simply not an option when going to work. Anyways, I hope that explains why our commute times are as high as they are.
I actually didn't know American commute times were this low. When I think of American commuting i immediately think of the dreaded traffic jams in LA. I guess that's just a public image thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1714508013},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994465
The entertainment industry is based in LA and NYC where commuting is insanity except for a small number of super rich people who can just walk or take a helicopter","attachment":null,"posted":1714508428},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994467
>Commuting is increasingly insane the more your state is dominated by road closing and illegal immigrant welcoming Democrat bureaucrats.
Fixed","attachment":null,"posted":1714555115},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994449
>not pictured","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714564759901856.jpg","filename":"American.Airlines.Boeing.737-800.YUL.2009[1].jpg"},"posted":1714564759},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994630,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994594
Chris Christie, a republican, is the one who likes to close roads at random for political reasons.","attachment":null,"posted":1714582471},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994939,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994465
>Amsterdam has over 50% social housing
At what point does it become apparent that the government is controlling supply because they no longer want Amsterdam to grow? The Dutch government seems perfectly happy keeping Amsterdam as some weird tourist attraction instead of a dominant city like London, Paris, or Berlin.
Trains moving workers in is just the most economical way of keeping the city functional with workers, it's artificial demand created by regressive zoning that prohibits normal growth.","attachment":null,"posted":1714757764},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1994987,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994939
>At what point does it become apparent that the government is controlling supply
Depends, what level of government has overall control over land use in the city? Is it the city itself, a regional level, or national level? Because if it's at the city level, it could easily be the incumbent residents lobbying the city government to keep the status quo, same as most US cities. If land use is legislated at a higher level, you could be right.
>a dominant city like London
I wouldn't include London in that list. Worse housing crisis than San Francisco but with none of the USA's stronger COVID recovery. London is important because of NATO and the post-WWII international situation, not because of anything the city itself did right in terms of housing and land use. The UK overall is just a bigger dumpster fire every year.
>it's artificial demand created by regressive zoning that prohibits normal growth.
Trains (and also bicycles for people closer to their jobs) would still be the most efficient way to move people over longer distances even if Amsterdam and every neighboring city suddenly built Tokyo-style.","attachment":null,"posted":1714789395},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994168
buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords","attachment":null,"posted":1714839597},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995058,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994987
If Amsterdam had to rely on cars instead of trains to funnel the amount of commuting workers, it would quickly quadruple the Netherland's need for oil and refined oil products, and would make the Dutch balance of accounts completely collapse.
The same thing happens in Japan and Korea. Small, rich countries will always pick transportation and electricity which is not dependent on oil so they can lower needs to import.","attachment":null,"posted":1714840504},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995063,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988428
>>1988500
>>1990294
public transit causes longer commutes. it takes about 6 times as long to get anywhere via bus or train as it does to drive","attachment":null,"posted":1714846826},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995063
[citation needed]","attachment":null,"posted":1714856980},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995138,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988562
I refuse to live in the American pod","attachment":null,"posted":1714899911},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995139,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995138
ok","attachment":null,"posted":1714900126},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995198,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990680
Congress should pass a bill ensuring that no more new light rail systems are created and that existing funds for transit projects are only approved for heavy rail passenger rail/transit or highways.
I hate the “cars vs. trains” analogy, just give me great highways, subways, regional rail and intercity trains. Fuck light rail. Go big or go bust.","attachment":null,"posted":1714932579},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995212,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995198
Fully approve this. Deploy buses instead. Much cheaper","attachment":null,"posted":1714938960},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995198
counterpoint","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714941736349907.jpg","filename":"s41rz2kk9wq81.jpg"},"posted":1714941736},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995063","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714942124249346.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1714942124},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995224
First off, no one's commuting 400 miles. Second off, a combination of good highways and airlines can cut down on those times significantly.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714942916056609.png","filename":"2024-05-05 15_58_26-(0) _n_ - America has globally, objectively low commute time - Transportation - .png"},"posted":1714942916},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995283,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995230
>Be on a crowded plane or drive 6.5 hrs
>There can be no other options
Planes and airports suck and road tripping is filled with retard Semis. Being on rails has always been a step every self respecting country would do.","attachment":null,"posted":1714966180},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995292,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995230
>significantly
>2 hours less than france because it's in a very flat area of the US
>still would be twice as slow as a proper HSR","attachment":null,"posted":1714971770},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995362,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995198
Congress should pass a bill encouraging international infrastructure corps to have equal bidding rights and can import workers to complete projects.
Mafiosi construction unions would throw a fuss but lose pretty quickly since they’ll get outbid and outdone on every project.","attachment":null,"posted":1715008176},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995063
so a train travelling at 300-350km/h will end up getting second on any random destination than a car?
even if its travelling at 200km/h
you are dumb sir really REALLY dumb
unless usa put traffic lights for trains which knowing usa they might","attachment":null,"posted":1715147928},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995898,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994455
Mexico is highest, then Malaysia, Czech Republic, South Korea, then U.S.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate","attachment":null,"posted":1715211602},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995939,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995898
Per capita makes more sense because the length of someone else's trip doesn't really matter for the person getting run over","attachment":null,"posted":1715223384},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995970,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988561
>trains are faster, have higher throughput and higher efficiency of movement for people than cars
Too bad they are useless in reality because people don't live in one big commie block, and don't all go to the same place.","attachment":null,"posted":1715251442},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995971,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988500
No retard, the cause is population density, and the cure is suburbs and cars.","attachment":null,"posted":1715251566},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995972,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988562
This is the average American home, or a home of a 1%er European.","attachment":null,"posted":1715251655},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995973,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988729
>retarded way of life
>literally superior in every way
why did this retard mean by this?","attachment":null,"posted":1715251764},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995974,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988846
that car would basically bankrupt 90% of europoors lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715251851},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995975,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995712
Are you retarded?
Do you live at a train station and commute to work at another train station?
I get into my car and go, you waste 30 minutes before you even get on the train.","attachment":null,"posted":1715252083},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995981,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone, on literally any topic related to transportation:
>we should improve society somewhat
Urbanists:
>CAGETROLLS SEETHING CAGEBRAIN CAGERS CAGE CAGE CAGE BOOMERS KARENS PONZI SCHEME AMERILARDS BRIGHTLINE PARKING MINIMUMS BUT IN AMSTERDAM AAAAMSTERDAAAAAAAAM
Election tourists
>NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERS DEI NIGGERS WOKE CANCEL MIGRANTS TRANNIES COMMUNISM YNBAW 13/52 14/88 NIGGER NIGGER NIGGERRRRRRR
Why do I keep coming to this garbage shit hole site","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715257649079380.jpg","filename":"cdb.jpg"},"posted":1715257649},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995985,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995973
>spending a quarter of your waking life driving to work and slaving for the money to support your car so you can drive to work because you have no other option
Americans realizing how much time and money they spend on their cars challenge: Impossible
>>1995975
Sounds like great arguments for building more housing adjacent to metro stations and increasing bus and train frequencies!","attachment":null,"posted":1715260538},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995989,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995985
>spending a quarter of your waking life driving to work
Yep, that's the European way, wasting your life for the 'environment' and smelling armpits on the bus while Americans have quick and easy commutes using cars.
Also owning a car in a normal country like USA isn't expensive, since you don't get raped by insurance, taxes and fuel prices.
>Sounds like great arguments for building more housing adjacent to metro stations and increasing bus and train frequencies!
Yes retard, let's pack everyone extremely densely into little 3x3m boxes so their masters can get them to work as cheaply and efficiently as possible.
Having your own house with a garden and a garage? No thank you, I prefer listening to crying children of my next wall neighbors.
Fuck quality of living, that's for Americans.","attachment":null,"posted":1715262690},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1995994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995989
Anon, you really should value your time higher. Every minute spent driving is a minute you could have been exercising, reading, studying, or catching some Zs. Or hell, just shitposting here. Instead you willingly pack yourself into a car for an hour each day, just to spend 3 more hours making the money to pay your car payment, insurance, gas, and repairs before you start making money for food, rent, hobbies, vacations, etc. You're sitting here posting about your commute as if that's the only factor in quality of life.
>Also owning a car in a normal country like USA isn't expensive, since you don't get raped by insurance, taxes and fuel prices.
Hilariously wrong, median used cars cost around $27k, median new cars around $46k. That's not cheap, and insurance has skyrocketed in the past several years because Americans are driving more recklessly than ever before and cars are getting more and more expensive to repair. My own insurance on a 5 year old hybrid sedan that I own is $2600/year despite a stellar driving record because of the sheer number of idiots on the road.
>15 minute conspiracy theories
Meds. Now.","attachment":null,"posted":1715265139},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1996042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995970
if only we could just build them in a way that covers a large enough portion of where people live so that a station isn't too far away, even in the suburbs with larger homes","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715290009859518.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1715290009},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1996116,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995994
>Anon, you really should value your time higher.
I do, that's why I use a car instead of wasting time on public transportation.
>median used cars cost around $27k,
so? I bought mine for 5k. You can go way cheaper but I wanted something with over 250hp.
>conspiracy theories
Area 51 was a conspiracy theory, doesn't make it untrue.
There isn't even a theory, you can just listen to what they say the want to do to you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715328639},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1996117,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996042
Still way worse than a car.
Too much walking and waiting for a train.","attachment":null,"posted":1715329414},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1996226,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996117
IS THAT EXERCISE???
AAAAA SAVE ME HENRY FORD","attachment":null,"posted":1715379630},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1996467,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996116
What I like is how urbanists and eco zealots are the very reason why cars are far more expensive than they need to be, then they say it’s an unfair drain on poor peoples wallets. Gas used to be cheap. Cars were cheaper to buy. Mandates have made them ever more expensive. Autonomous braking systems, tracking devices, emissions filters, etc.. just one of these alone might add $2000 to the price of a car. And theres loads of them with more being mandated every year. Then the systems fail and the car is either bricked or illegal to drive (see DPF and Adblue). Old cheap cars become impossible to find. Carbon taxes on fuel and home energy go up. Look at your heating/electric bill and see how much you’re being charged for the “privilege” of greenwashed energy. Yuck. The poor gets taxed off the road then the bus service gets cut and you either move to a nasty inner city apartment surrounded by drug addicts and thieves or remain stranded. The word salad is hilarious and at this point the commies aren’t even hiding the fact they admire the system of government that has killed more people than just about anything else in recorded history. Crabs in a bucket. Disgusting","attachment":null,"posted":1715516225},{"board":"n","thread":1987587,"pid":1997185,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995975
do a blood test i wanna see your cholesterol levels","attachment":null,"posted":1715868000}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1979930,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What is the most pleasurable airport to be a passenger in?
Pic unrelated.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1708055194878404.jpg","filename":"800px-JFK_Aerial_Nov_14_2018.jpg"},"posted":1708055194},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1979940,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
Changi","attachment":null,"posted":1708061822},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1979941,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
I flew in to KGSO for work at the peak of covid. The whole airport was completely devoid of people and in some areas a temporarily abandoned construction site. The terminal I arrived and departed from looked like it hadn't been remodeled in ages. The entirety of what I saw looked smelled and felt straight out of the 80s, reminded me a lot of bringing my dad to and from Logan as a kid.
Great experience 10/10","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1708061937953659.jpg","filename":"kgso.jpg"},"posted":1708061937},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1979974,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"TXL
It will be missed","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1708087761178861.jpg","filename":"TXL_Terminal_A.jpg"},"posted":1708087761},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1980006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
Never been a passenger and only been to one airport so my answer is Hamburg HAM","attachment":null,"posted":1708106961},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1980007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
DTW isn't too bad, it's a longboi so you get to ride the train
I like BWI and the different "hallways"
CLT is straight ass","attachment":null,"posted":1708107453},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1980014,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
I flew in to LCY a few years ago on a flight from Dublin and I went from my seat to the DLR platform in only a few minutes which was pretty nice
The satellite terminal at KUL was pretty good","attachment":null,"posted":1708109435},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1980064,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979974
i unironically came to post flughafen tegel. best airport in the world","attachment":null,"posted":1708126766},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1980713,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"SFO is fucking goated.","attachment":null,"posted":1708406388},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1980791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
i like Oslo.","attachment":null,"posted":1708446235},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1980797,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
You can gamble in Vegas and they have a good BBQ place.","attachment":null,"posted":1708447041},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1980851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
Lesser passenger airports. Manassas Regional back when Colgan were still going, but now my favorite is either KMLB or KVRB, both tropical airports which are pretty quiet.","attachment":null,"posted":1708456839},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1980860,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hong Kong. It's a good airport and it being on it's own little island is cool. The approach via plane is also has a nice view imo.
>>1979974
Hast du lack gesoffen?","attachment":null,"posted":1708460221},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1980912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"As long as it's not:
>a hub
>any NYC airport
>LAX
>O'Hare
Then it's usually fine or mediocre at worst.","attachment":null,"posted":1708467798},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1981021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"currently splitting my time between AUS and PWM, both pleasant small airports easy to get in and out of. very nice. although AUS is a lot more crowded than it used to be and significantly over capacity. still, pretty convenient and nice. maybe there'll even be a train out there within two or three decades.","attachment":null,"posted":1708489676},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1981112,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Zurich is the nicest I've been to. 10/10 would fly back into.","attachment":null,"posted":1708537765},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1981170,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
ATL was fine even if busy ass hell previously, but with current nonsense post covid its absolutely abhorrent. Over an hour to check your bag, security all fucked even with 9000 TSA retards.","attachment":null,"posted":1708552513},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1981229,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980791
I like Gardermoen too. Last flight I had there was a very beautiful slightly foggy morning, taking off over the trees with some things from the 7/11, sat next to 10/10 Bavarians who had gone on one of those really long treks, made friends with them too.","attachment":null,"posted":1708567600},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1981237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980912
the new LGA isn't that bad. I can think of many that are worse. CDG, MNL, NRT, MCI, AUH, RNO","attachment":null,"posted":1708568259},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1981239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1981237
oh how could I forget ORY. somehow even bleaker than CDG, just smaller","attachment":null,"posted":1708568320},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1981259,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980912
Please add Orlando MCO to your list.","attachment":null,"posted":1708572616},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1981271,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980713
Security wait times of a small city airport with all of the destinations you'd expect from a major international one.","attachment":null,"posted":1708581036},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1981280,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"palm beach international","attachment":null,"posted":1708587710},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1982243,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
Vienna International Airport, Terminal 3. Fast security, clear gate numeration and a can of Ottakringer beer at Heyneman for 2.99 € (yeah it's piss but they serve that same piss at gate F09 for 6.50 €).","attachment":null,"posted":1708968700},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1982249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1982243
Terminal 3 sucks compared to terminal 1. Better stores/restaurants and no ridiculous long walks along a single line. It's a pity that Austrian uses T3 now.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1708969125416342.jpg","filename":"L_height.jpg"},"posted":1708969125},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1982327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980713
Especially flying overseas, you basically waltz into the international terminal right off the freeway and walk past checkin and security to your gate in 15 minutes tops. I don't even have tsa pre or anything like that. Flying back from CDG is intense.","attachment":null,"posted":1708986565},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1982328,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
AMS is okay, if you're flying domestic or discount.
>>1980014
LCY is fun but shit on departure.","attachment":null,"posted":1708986896},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1982626,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1982249
I used T1 when airberlin/Niki was still around. Yes, it was better. But I haven't been there since AB went out of business (which will be 7 years in 2024, Boy I am old ffs)","attachment":null,"posted":1709112864},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1983626,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"CGK in Jakarta is super underrated. beautiful airport with a lot of investment poured into it by the corrupt Indonesian government","attachment":null,"posted":1709720531},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1983715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980007
Agreed on dtw. Unremarkable but big and quiet, with plenty of actual tables","attachment":null,"posted":1709763078},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1983720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1981239
ORY looks like ass, is full of nafris and has a pretty shitty layout with a lot of choke points but it's comfy as fuck due to the "open" roof deck on the last floor of terminal 4 (formerly South).
Not sure if it's still a thing but 10 years ago I flew on the early Air Berlin TXL-ORY flights (which were dirt cheap) quite frequently and when arriving at Orly around 7 having barely slept, there was nothing comfier that making my way up there and having a coffee and a smoke while watching planes before going to baggage claim, which would typically start a few minutes later.
Also has a few completely desert corridors and balconies and a soulful little people mover.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1709765559949810.jpg","filename":"image_1490681_20220203_ob_bcdae6_20220202-163420-visite-de-l-aeroport[1].jpg"},"posted":1709765559},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1985244,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980713
> SFO is fucking goated.
SFO is good to fly out from - I don't know how they manage it, but the security lines have usually been very fast, and puts you directly into the concourse without having to walk for miles. However, international arrival into SFO is extremely depressing - long walks through soulless beige hallways with harsh fluorescent lighting. I don't know why they don't make it at least a tiny bit more cheerful.
And I concur with fpbp -- Changi is one of the most engaging airports to arrive in or to transit through. Bright, cheerful, decorated with orchids and lots of free amenities, as well as airport staff that actually can answer questions. They also don't charge you $5-$10 for a fucking luggage cart like the American airports do. Carts are free, well maintained and can actually fit large suitcases.","attachment":null,"posted":1710451180},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1985265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’m flying through Kansas City’s new international airport on March 29th. Will take some pictures.","attachment":null,"posted":1710462557},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1985291,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1981112
Maximum comfy. Story: when Air Berlin still existed, they were late into Zurich and drove me through the terminal in a golf cart to make my next flight. No idea what I did to deserve such service.","attachment":null,"posted":1710470688},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1985808,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1985265
Lot of natural light there. Not bad.","attachment":null,"posted":1710755633},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1985809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
Vilnius, because it felt like a train station. Very cute and comfie.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710755727708879.jpg","filename":"133176.jpg"},"posted":1710755727},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1985875,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I think I have a directory of Pittsburgh International Airport because it was actually designed to work as a retail concourse without price-gouging people (of course after 9/11 you couldn't access it anymore without a ticket).
Pic unrelated. (Sorry, no airport Kmarts).","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710794654624679.png","filename":"kmart games.png"},"posted":1710794654},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1985915,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
Never had a problem with DTW","attachment":null,"posted":1710816202},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1986074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
TPA is easily the best airport down here in Florida.
>MIA
Shit parking and shitty outdated gates if you're not flying American, plus godawful gate and TSA staff
>FLL
Too small and cramped
>MCO
Shit parking that's always full and too full because of all the tourists coming and going to Disney, TSA is the worst out of all of these
>JAX
Route selection sucks compared to the others listed","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710902891652733.jpg","filename":"2560px-Tampa_Intl_Oct2022.jpg"},"posted":1710902891},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1986076,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"does the airport count as pleasurable if the pleasure comes from watching other passengers who have never flown out of john wayne airport before shit their pants?
>5700 foot runway
>freeways on both ends prevent expansion
>757s can just squeeze in
>surprise! noise abatement departure pattern you have to follow too
>get onto runway and throttle up before rolling
>25 degree pitch on takeoff
>followed by immediate pullback of engines at 500 feet
>and immediate 30 degree left turn to stay in the corridor
good times knowing you're about to go on a rocket launch","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710904599898879.jpg","filename":"John_Wayne_Airport_photo_Don_Ramey_Logan.jpg"},"posted":1710904599},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1986262,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1981237
Even old LGA was a lot better than some Europe low-cost only airports","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1710988241962489.jpg","filename":"ltn.jpg"},"posted":1710988241},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1986306,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1986074
Based TPA appreciator
best airport in America
DTW is best hub but I don't mind ATL either. Just need to make sure you have at least 90 min layover when planning flights","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711021376171910.jpg","filename":"HI24R566FJEBJA3EEF7VBVQCXI.jpg"},"posted":1711021376},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1986787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">ctrl+f "DCA"
>0 results
DCA is a very pleasant airport to deal with. The only shame is having to contend with Dulles when I want to go international. But, rich transit access, good facilities, and minutes from DC proper. Great airport.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711216964121409.jpg","filename":"FZpK8xRDupY2xzZuyTUJ.jpg"},"posted":1711216964},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1986803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Any small one where you can safely arrive less than an hour before departure.
>>1985809
based, wasn't the only one to think it has train station vibes","attachment":null,"posted":1711225713},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
i really don't mind seatac
detroit is big gay tho","attachment":null,"posted":1711856982},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988704,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1981239
>>1983720
Really? The times I went to ORY, it was crazy small for the traffic. I prefer CDG despite some crazy architecture and signage that may confuse first-timers. Still better than some "big hubs" in other parts of the world, both of them.
>>1986262
This. Those are like those medium-sized to small city airports that will make you walk through the tarmac. But somehow with all the soul stripped from them.","attachment":null,"posted":1711890556},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988717,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Sorry for the delay in uploading my KCI pics. Apparently where I was staying in England was rangebanned.
Went through the KCI departure process on March 22, a Friday at 4pm. No traffic getting to the drop-off curb.
Said curb is just outside the left side of picrel. Picrel is the main hall of the airport. Security and bag checking are to the right. As you can see, its only about 40 yards from the curb to security. I got through security in under five minutes, which was nice and gave me tons of time on the other side to take more pictures.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711895790775628.jpg","filename":"KCI_Great_Hall_1.jpg"},"posted":1711895790},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988718,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Picrel is from the same spot as >>1988717 but in the opposite direction.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711895861689233.jpg","filename":"KCI_Great_Hall_2.jpg"},"posted":1711895861},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988719,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988718
On just the other side of security is the atrium for concourse A. I had three beers here for $24. Otherwise a nice experience.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711895969524125.jpg","filename":"KCI_Atrium_A.jpg"},"posted":1711895969},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988719
There's a LEGO store in Atrium A, which I thought was kinda funny. Just thinking about fathers and uncles coming through the airport and getting last minute birthday presents for kids.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711896109428174.jpg","filename":"KCI_LEGO_Store.jpg"},"posted":1711896109},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988720
Here's a look at Concourse B from A, with a view down the exterior of the "bridge".","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711896212188699.jpg","filename":"KCI_Bridge_1.jpg"},"posted":1711896212},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988723,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988722
Same spot, different angle. The concourses aren't that long, since the airport isn't that big, so it's never a long walk to get anywhere.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711896316540428.jpg","filename":"KCI_Concourse_Exterior.jpg"},"posted":1711896316},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988725,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988723
Here's look down the "bridge". Halfway down the bridge is an observation point where you can sit and watch plane movements, as well as read some displays on local history. Western Missouri and Eastern Kansas have some extremely bloody and contentious Civil War history, so I was surprised to see that they included it. You can see where the observation point is on >>1988722","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711896446602198.jpg","filename":"KCI_Bridge_2.jpg"},"posted":1711896446},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988725
Atrium B was pretty much the same as Atrium A, with the fountain replaced by hanging planes made from Jazz instruments, reflecting KC's history of jazz music. Forgot to mention the fountain sculpture in Atrium A. KC likes to constantly brag that it has the 2nd most fountains of any city in the world, behind only Rome. Our new flag is even a fountain.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711896602528465.jpg","filename":"KCI_Atrium_B.jpg"},"posted":1711896602},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988727
Like a previous Anon mentioned, KCI has tons of great natural light, with all of the ceilings being this calming and comforting wood paneling.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711896729140213.jpg","filename":"KCI_Ceiling.jpg"},"posted":1711896729},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988733,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988731
The floor design is mostly a repeat of the old KCI, which was nice. They even saved some of the floor mosaics and brought them over to the new airport.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711896817123193.jpg","filename":"KCI_Mosaic.jpg"},"posted":1711896817},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988735,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988733
I didn't take this picture, but it gives a great overview of the airport, and you can see the old terminals in the background.
My final thoughts are that I loved the airport. It's not bigger than it needs to be, only really needing to serve people flying into and out of Kansas City.
Much better than the design of the old KCI, which was a disaster for reasons I can't get into.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711896970551739.jpg","filename":"KCI_Overhead.jpg"},"posted":1711896970},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988737,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988720
Legos are already expensive, I wonder how much more they are in an airport
>>1988733
I the plan to move everyone into the new terminal and tear down the old ones?","attachment":null,"posted":1711897183},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988741,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980791
>>1981229
>check departure board
>planes leaves from gate B10
Osl bros I dont feel so good","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711898093379146.jpg","filename":"IMG_5032.jpg"},"posted":1711898093},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988751,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988737
>Is the plan to move everything into the new terminal and tear down the old ones?
Yes. Everything has already been moved to the new terminal and the old ones have been permanently shut. This has actually resulted in a reduction in the overall number of gates.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711901522429856.jpg","filename":"IMG_4950.jpg"},"posted":1711901522},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988717
>>1988735
>>1988751
>KCI
It's MCI, how can you be shilling the airport this hard and not even know its abbreviation!?
Also RIP the old terminals, I thought they were comfy...","attachment":null,"posted":1711907931},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988772,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988768
I'm a native, and EVERYONE calls it KCI. I know the actual code is MCI, but fuck it. Call it what it is.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711908105636781.jpg","filename":"KC_Streetcar_(26813012241).jpg"},"posted":1711908105},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988776,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'd say my hometown of vancouver if air canada wasn't the carrier you have to interact with. otherwise it's got perfect transit, good layout, good design.","attachment":null,"posted":1711908565},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1988785,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1981229
Gardermoen is fine, but as Nordic airports go it's not as nice as CPH or HEL in my opinion.
I guess this is only a problem if you're flying to smaller Norwegian airports, but transferring in OSL to domestic means you have to pick up your luggage, check it back in and go though airport security again. That's the main reason why I try to avoid it whenever possible.","attachment":null,"posted":1711911268},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1989234,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988741
Better than D6","attachment":null,"posted":1712103563},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1990696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
I was surprised how nice LaGuardia was. Obviously connections to the city are ass but the airport itself is 10/10 compared to the alternatives.","attachment":null,"posted":1712752358},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1990698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990696
I love how after you go through security at the new terminal, you get shunted through a NYC gift shop. It just so perfectly encapsulates the spirit of NYC. The last thing as you leave the city is one last attempt to take money from you while jerking off about how TOTALLY GREAT OMG BRIGHT LIGHTS BIG CITY 8M STORIES.","attachment":null,"posted":1712752912},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1990720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990698
Just about any international airport in a place that has heavy tourism forces you to walk through the mini mall thing on the way to the gates. It only seems extreme at LGA because the curved path through the mall rubs it in your face that you're taking an indirect route, whereas at other airports you can tell yourself "oh those shops just happen to be here, in this long straight section where coincidentally there are no gates just shops for 1/4 mile that everyone has to pass through"","attachment":null,"posted":1712764631},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1990731,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990720
You're right about the curved path being grating, but it's also that the whole thing is just another one of those "I <3 N Y" shops that there are a million of in Manhattan. Most of those airport mini-malls aren't exclusively [this place] T-shirts and snow globes","attachment":null,"posted":1712767087},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1991807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i recently tallied and I have been to over 200 airports on each continent (yes, including antarctica, though those stretch the definition of "airport")...here are the ones that really stand out..
>Tegel
Iconic in every way. I understand why she had to go, but that doesn't mean I'm not still pissed she's gone.
>JFK
It is always kind of momentous arriving here, especially from overseas. No other port of entry has the same weight.
>ORD
Scale beyond belief. It feels like the crossroads of the world. It's not convenient, but nowhere comes close to matching the spectacle.
>WLG
Extremely beautiful setting and always a memorable descent. Bonus points to all NZ airports for having no security on their Dash-8 or ATR flights.
>Kangerlussuaq
Cold War vibes that are off the charts. The whole town exists for the airport, and the airport exists to support all Greenland. It will really be sad when Nuuk opens up to big jets later this year, Kanger is really an event.
>Rothera
Arguably the most beautiful place in the world. Seriously. Bonus points for always coming in on a Dash-7 too.","attachment":null,"posted":1713373667},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1991841,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Chek Lap Kok
Trash airport. Takes forever to taxi. Host airline has completely gone the tubes from one of the world's best to basically lame as fuck. Nothing remotely special about the airport itself, the fact that this soulless vapid dump replaced Kai Tak of all things is tragic. 2/10
>Changi
maybe its just me, but I don't get the hype. some parts of it are kinda pretty? I guess it looks better in photos. its a pretty average airport desu. nothing special. and im overall a pretty big fan of singapore itself and particularly singapore airlines
>SFO
pretty good, never feels too busy which is nice
>MCI
I loved the old one for its quirky vibe, I'm sure the new one is soulless","attachment":null,"posted":1713392508},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1991863,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
Seoul-Incheon","attachment":null,"posted":1713399975},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1994277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1981170
Yeah ATL's security lines are shit but the layout of the airport is straightforward, the Plane Train is cute, there's nice art installations in the tunnel, and the food is banging.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714422548449307.jpg","filename":"IMG_7882.jpg_display_[1].jpg"},"posted":1714422548},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1994279,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1986076
This sound amazing I want to experience this takeoff","attachment":null,"posted":1714422683},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1994280,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1986787
>Dulles hate
Don't talk to me or my sons ever again.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714422931687370.jpg","filename":"1687374931490[1].jpg"},"posted":1714422931},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1994289,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1981170
>>1994277
I feel like yall may have just gotten unlucky, I've flown out of ATL twice so far this year and security and bag check lines weren't bad at all. Really my only beef with ATL is lounge options suck unless you have Skyclub access, but the sheer number of decent to good food/bar options mitigate that quite a bit.","attachment":null,"posted":1714424325},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1994294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994289
Yeah, the best airport meal I have ever had was in Atlanta so I am willing to forgive it a lot.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714424805144936.jpg","filename":"BLB2G2MISQPGIODGSANK6G5P24[1].jpg"},"posted":1714424805},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1994437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979930
In Paris they have Xbox and you are free to play","attachment":null,"posted":1714495638},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1994707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"La Palma. Canary Islands. Its smol also.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714637249424097.jpg","filename":"IMG_7868.jpg"},"posted":1714637249},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1994747,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1986787
DCA's central position and having a Metro station immediately next to it is great. Although I like the Dulles design better (and the new silver line connection seems cool athough I haven't tried it yet).
>>1986074
MIA needs work, train was down for a while and every time I've been there's some busted walkway or escalator.
>>1981237
New LGA is good. A+ imo.
>>1994277
The tunnel's lighting and ambient music (?) is cool.
>IAH
Way fucking far, but okay looking and competent.
>CLT
Rocking chairs and observation areas are neat. Is this a final destination for anyone? It's a great hub but fuck if I know about parking or local transportation options.
>MSO
Landing in a valley between mountains is amazing to see. It's a tiny airport with some regional connections but it's amazingly comfy. They have a nice outdoor deck and the staff is very friendly.","attachment":null,"posted":1714662833},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1994776,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994747
The new silver line connection to Dulles is not nearly as conveniently located unfortunately. It's not *bad* but it's much further from the terminal than DCA and the tunnel to get there feels like walking through the Catacombs. Navigating the airport is just kind of weird in general because of how labyrinthine it is. Once you get to the terminal you go back downstairs and into even more tunnels then back upstairs again.","attachment":null,"posted":1714672348},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1995039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994776
>they put it all the way across the parking lot
>its still elevated above the level of the parking lot
This seems like a really low bar to clear to have just put it across from the arrivals/departures lanes, above the parking lot. I'm glad it's built, but really?","attachment":null,"posted":1714828550},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1995061,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995039
Exactly, it's a real haul from the terminal building for seemingly no reason","attachment":null,"posted":1714845697},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1995206,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Do any of you have experience working a grunt job at an airport? DTW is nearby, and I've always liked the idea of seeing/hearing the commotion of machines and people on their missions while calmly stocking a snack shelf. Almost like an omnipotent observer.","attachment":null,"posted":1714936616},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1995903,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1979941
Welcome to the backrooms, airport edition","attachment":null,"posted":1715212917},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1995906,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980007
> DTW
agree DTW is nice but specifically the Delta Terminal (the one you are speaking about)
>CLT
Also agree, i was last there before many of the lounges opened up and there are no fucking comfortable seating. You are either sitting at the food court, getting rocking chair if possible, or standing. I was actually jealous of the soldiers going to the MIL lounge.","attachment":null,"posted":1715213220},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1995907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1980713
>>1981271
>>1982327
>>1985244
It's my understanding that SFO does not use TSA, but has their own agents. Don't know how true that is but i have heard good thing","attachment":null,"posted":1715213374},{"board":"n","thread":1979930,"pid":1995908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1986076
MIL style take-off.
>>1986262
>LGA
Old LGA is by far my most hated airport. I feel like death would be better than old LGA","attachment":null,"posted":1715213626}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What's the most retarded bad faith argument against improving transit and walkability you've come across?
I'll start with "But but but, AMERICA'S TOO BIG"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711724505572959.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-03-22 at 13-41-12 fuckcars search results - inefficient.png"},"posted":1711724505},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
>full of minorities
>smells like turds
>zoomers blasting rap on it 24/7
>cannot bring a woman with you unless you want to watch her get groped
>slow as fuck, extending the time you have to listen to schizo homeless guys rant
>perpetually late
>not cheaper than a car
>basically a homeless shelter on wheels funded by taxpayer money
Oh, and inb4
>B..BUT THAT'S BAD TRANSIT
Literally "real communism has never been tried."","attachment":null,"posted":1711726185},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
You also forgot
>permanent financial black hole with zero accountability while the riders insist it should be free and "the rich will pay for it"","attachment":null,"posted":1711727361},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"yimbys: "we have to force bike lanes down everyone's throat and make it illegal to ride a bike on roads because it's literally impossible to ride a bike without permission from the government"
also yimbys: "oh they do fine without them in japan? but but but, AMERICAN ROADS TOO BIG"","attachment":null,"posted":1711728328},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
>"it takes thirty minutes to get groceries in the suburbs!"
>"muh stroads"
>"the streets used to be for people"
>"it's actually more efficient**" (when it's mostly full and not going empty/mostly in the night)
>"BUT WHAT IF CHILDREN WERE LINED UP UNDER THE TIRES"
>"unsustainable suburbia!"
>"I need to get home from the bars after they close"
>"just use a cargo bike bro"
>bringing up the GM "conspiracy"
>using 50-year-old photos or photos deliberately framed to look bad
...oh wait, you said "AGAINST" transit?","attachment":null,"posted":1711742126},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988306,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
>inefficient
Lol straight up just making shit up","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711745480043476.jpg","filename":"bikeslol.jpg"},"posted":1711745480},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988311,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988255
John Forester was right","attachment":null,"posted":1711747520},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988583,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
>train
>doesn't get stuck in traffic
back when I lived in Hamburg, trains got stuck all the time because of congestion. Every time I traveled back from Kiel, I would enter Hamburg city limits on time but arrive at the congress hall station 10 minutes late.
Meanwhile my university in Kiel and my home in Hamburg were both right by a grade-separated thoroughfare and only a smaller part of the route not yet upgraded to an autobahn was an unavoidable bottleneck","attachment":null,"posted":1711841385},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"All cars should be destroyed. Every town and city on earth should be designed for pedestrians.","attachment":null,"posted":1711853582},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988638,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988251
>financial black hole
I think you replied to the wrong post, because that's roads","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711854229453060.jpg","filename":"file.jpg"},"posted":1711854229},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988639,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988306
uh, car bros????","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711854339114061.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1711854339},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988651,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988639
Nice","attachment":null,"posted":1711859352},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
Idk about bad faith because the proponents certainly beliece it, but the idea that 15-minute cities are some kind of conspiracy on the verge of implementation that will eliminate the automobile and trample the rights of red-blooded freedom lovers","attachment":null,"posted":1711859771},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988654
>It’s not happening
>it’s happening and this why it is good thing!","attachment":null,"posted":1711880509},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
here in melbourne a yearly public transport pass costs me under $2000
the average car costs at least $12000 a year
that's $10000 saved every year","attachment":null,"posted":1711881184},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988676
>Anon discovers nice things cost more than shitty things","attachment":null,"posted":1711881422},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988678,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988677
I can buy nice things for my home or go on a holiday every year for the price of owning a car
or I could keep investing it every year and growing wealth
public transport is faster and more convenient than driving in the inner areas","attachment":null,"posted":1711883757},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"A 1 hour train ride here can cost 60 bucks easily
If you're two people that's 120
Same distance with car costs like 30 including parking","attachment":null,"posted":1711884403},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988678
It sounds like you can't afford a car and are coping. Enjoy trying to find a date who's fine with riding the bus lol","attachment":null,"posted":1711885204},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988676
>the average car costs at least $12000 a year
how did you get to that number? Or are you one of those fags that can't turn a wrench and leases instead of pays cash because mr. noseberg told you it is so much smarter.","attachment":null,"posted":1711888278},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988682
>only poorfags are smart with their money","attachment":null,"posted":1711888445},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988682
I have literally never been on a date involving a car, not once. unless you mean like an uber because it's raining. only guidos from new jersey and long island drive cars and whine about muh traffic jam on muh long island expressway, why didn't you take LIRR you r-slur.","attachment":null,"posted":1711892624},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988634
Name a whole city or town that has no cars whatsoever.","attachment":null,"posted":1711893437},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988708
>I have literally never been on a date
I believe you","attachment":null,"posted":1711894124},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988716,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988714
nice one. but I bet you've never taken a boat as your ride. how do you not die of boredom being stuck in a car all the time?","attachment":null,"posted":1711894948},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’d love trains but sadly our geography is pure mountains so it’d be pretty damn difficult and expensive to make a solid railway","attachment":null,"posted":1711907980},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't want to be in the same vehicle as that (thing in webm.)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711919748216614.webm","filename":"1711896560255648.webm"},"posted":1711919748},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988818,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988673
The idea of a 15-minute city has existed since agglomerations of humans has been a thing; when most people had to get around on 2 feet all those services HAD to be in close proximity.
The idea of such a thing being an absurdity is a uniquely late 20th century/early 21st century north american idea.","attachment":null,"posted":1711919925},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988824,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988676
>the average car costs at least $12000 a year
What kind of retard weed are you smoking?","attachment":null,"posted":1711921046},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988825,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988770
that's defeatist attitude, how did Japan manage to do it then?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711921369127587.jpg","filename":"JapanTopography.jpg"},"posted":1711921369},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988830,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
That last bit is so true. It’s communism on wheels. Governments would tell you jumping off a bridge was healthy and beneficial, if it suited them.","attachment":null,"posted":1711921788},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988831,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988306
>San Franshitsco","attachment":null,"posted":1711921817},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988842,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"“We’d have to totally redesign our city from the ground up!”
Not really, you just build urban infill and upgrade transit incrementally.","attachment":null,"posted":1711923741},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988639
>irrelevant europoor shithole","attachment":null,"posted":1711927546},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988860,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
JUST BUILD A TRAIN
Sometimes a bus or subway or ropeway is far better, not every where is ideal for a train.","attachment":null,"posted":1711928218},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988924,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988825
The trains don't go into the mountains, they stay in the dense pockets of relatively flat land where Tokyo and other cities are, and the narrow passes that connect them.","attachment":null,"posted":1711953523},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988930,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988818
American cities are 15 minute cities unlike Netherlands for example
>>1987587","attachment":null,"posted":1711958117},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988825
Japs don't live in the mountains, they live on small strips of the flat lands mostly along the shore that makes convenient railroad building along single line","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711958371514584.jpg","filename":"Japan_Population_Density,_2000_(5457014739).jpg"},"posted":1711958371},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988985,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
Sounds like you live in the Third World. I can understand that you get that impression of train travel.
Meanwhile, in the First World:","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711987687994830.jpg","filename":"Bild-2_OeBB-DOSTO-innen.jpg"},"posted":1711987687},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988990,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988985
Is that picture more than three years old or are they permanently enslaved and wear the muzzle at all times?","attachment":null,"posted":1711988720},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988991,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988990
I don't actively wear a mask about 99 percent of the time, but I always bring a spare one with me when riding the train (CTA or Metra)
Cause sometimes it just stinks up in those bitches","attachment":null,"posted":1711989523},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988990
some people live with immunocompromised and even a small reduction in risk at home is worth the risk from upsetting a few reactionaries
t. have a relative whose immunes don't work so good and it's a pain in the ass for everyone around them","attachment":null,"posted":1711990428},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988997,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988993
>small reduction in risk
>still riding in the public petri dish instead of the privately owned automobile","attachment":null,"posted":1711991352},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988998,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988997
that's a big change compared to putting on the mask, are you some kind of libcuck who took the vaxx?","attachment":null,"posted":1711992006},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1988999,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988998
Why don't you admit that you want to kill granny?","attachment":null,"posted":1711992508},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988639
I did the same route now and the car is literally faster once again lmao","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712004998564408.jpg","filename":"zzz.jpg"},"posted":1712004998},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989030,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989026
you're a fucking retard, kill yourself. google maps is also frequently wrong for transit times and recommends awful routes","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712006219158652.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1712006219},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989122,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988306
Why the fuck are cars so fast? It's not fair. They should be getting stuck in traffic or something","attachment":null,"posted":1712060715},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989123,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988682
Americans be like
>No sex allowed unless you spend your hard-earned wagebucks on a multiton vehicle","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712060825463552.jpg","filename":"pepelaugh1.jpg"},"posted":1712060825},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989130,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988682
>It sounds like you can't afford a car
looking at which $3-4 million house to buy as we speak
if you can't afford to live in a walkable area, I don't begrudge you","attachment":null,"posted":1712061643},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
What is this idea of public transport being filled with rapists, piss and shit. Is america really that fucking bad ? Here in eastern europe public transport is cheap as shit and rarely has criminals. Also it runs on time, there's a bus literally once every 1 or 2 minutes","attachment":null,"posted":1712065317},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989133,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989132
Only big cities are a problem, and only big cities tend to have transit, therefore, all the transit examples are in big cities run by machine politics.","attachment":null,"posted":1712065541},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989259,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988676
Cars are expensive here sure but I'd still put an average car more around 5-10k, and still possible to get shitboxes for 3-5k","attachment":null,"posted":1712114023},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989261,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
I think the argument I hate the most is that a car offers "freedom" while relying on public transport does not.
This can be true for that uniquely American semi-urban spread that is extremely poorly serviced by public transport, but in reality if you live in a half decent area not having a car is actually quite liberating, mostly in the financial sense, and in fact areas not served by pubic transport face higher levels of financial stress caused by cars https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/09/entrenched-car-culture-leaves-millions-of-britons-in-transport-poverty
Also non-car dominated areas encourage walking (either to and from other public transport nodes or just walking to a local destination) which further encourages local shopping, businesses and a better commercial fabric, a car gives you "freedom" to go wherever you want but in reality you're just shepherded towards certain shopping centres with certain chain stores so you end up with less choice and freedom overall.
There's also the argument that a reliance on public transport means you're stuck with areas along a set route as if cars aren't also bound by wherever the government decides to put roads.
Really I guess the thing I hate is how Americans in particular pick and choose the meaning of "freedom", in the /n/ sense they've decided being able to drive your own car to a particular destination equates freedom, even though you're much freer without the financial constraints brought on by driving, having a local social fabric facilitated by walking and by not having to go through licensing/ registration/ insurance and so on.","attachment":null,"posted":1712114697},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989263,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989132
It's an utter meme perpetuated by Twitter chuds who never actually step outside, I've travelled to New York, Boston and Chicago, used public transport the entire time and it was fine. I saw a couple rats on a New York platform and some black guy tried to sell chocolate bars for charity and that's it.","attachment":null,"posted":1712114858},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989324,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989261
>There's also the argument that a reliance on public transport means you're stuck with areas along a set route as if cars aren't also bound by wherever the government decides to put roads.
Because roads go virtually everywhere and trains/buses do not. What a bad argument
>>1989263
>I've travelled to New York, Boston and Chicago
Lol","attachment":null,"posted":1712147404},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989332,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988924
There is literally a bullet train direct to a ski resort in central Japan. Japan does have plenty of rail lines that take you to into mountains. As another example, Switzerland has 0 trouble building rail lines up to mountain resorts too.","attachment":null,"posted":1712152939},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989343,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't get how people think you can't have rails across the entire U.S., but you can have highways across the whole country.","attachment":null,"posted":1712158025},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
>first reply
>/o/ tourists have already invaded the thread","attachment":null,"posted":1712158123},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989345,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989343
Freeways can carry cargo and passengers and they connect to the remainder of the highway and road network, allowing anyone with a vehicle to access them.
HSR only carries people (unprofitable or marginally profitably) and serves limited destinations.","attachment":null,"posted":1712158318},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989263
When was the last time you took a CTA train? I lived in chicago for a couple of years. Went about 5 years without visiting, and then went there again last month. At the moment, it's pretty bad compared to NYC. The trains are literally just homeless camps now. Nobody threatened me and everyone was just miserable like homeless people usually are for the most part, but I would not call it "fine" and if things keep up nobody normal will use CTA trains for another generation or two. MTA is getting bad too but CTA is on a whole other level.","attachment":null,"posted":1712158409},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989345
>implying there's more than 5 cars on the average slaveway carrying more than one Ameriafat and their equally obese ego","attachment":null,"posted":1712158501},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989350,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988294
It's incredible how those are literally all perfectly valid and correct arguments and you have to deliberately edit them to make them look worse.
Verification not required.","attachment":null,"posted":1712158708},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989354,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989123
I have had this happen to me once where this girl rejected me because I said I used the bus in a city of 600k people.","attachment":null,"posted":1712160027},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988997
>Calls public transit a petri dish but not his car where in which he drinks, eats, smokes and maybe even fucks
Of course...also, if you're heavily immunocompromised then even a walk in a park can be your death sentence","attachment":null,"posted":1712160083},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989356,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988930
>American cities are 15 minute cities unlike Netherlands for example
Then why do chuds spout that the latter is a plot to undermine western society?","attachment":null,"posted":1712160250},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989365,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989350
>valid and correct arguments
Lol. Every single one relies on outright falsehoods, distorted history, distorted statistics, or preposterous whataboutisms that have no basis in reality.","attachment":null,"posted":1712161980},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989368,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989343
There are rails across the entire U.S., they carry bulk cargo and it's only through modern logistics that rails can even remain profitable.","attachment":null,"posted":1712162689},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989365
But enough about motor vehicle activists and their shitty non-aruguments.","attachment":null,"posted":1712164086},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989384,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989263
My sister's friends get groped by Indians on a monthly basis in Toronto. They are all 15 years old.","attachment":null,"posted":1712168551},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989389,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">get on bus
>pay 5 dollars one way, sure it adds up to $300 a month, but car insance plus gas would be $301 a month, cagers btfo lol
>plus, I only have to transfer 7 times and wait for 4 hours to get to a spot 15km away, I bet it would take 3 weeks by car, /n/ said so!!!!
>stench of rot, mold, and stale cigarette smoke hits my nostrils
>not an issue because the fumes burned away all my smell receptors years ago
>push through crowd of 80 indians to find a seat
>hobo next to me shits himself, and starts doing a little dance to rub it into the seats
>watch 10 year old get molested by urban youth
>to the left of me, someone's crotch, 5 inches away
>to the right, a 7 year old wiping the contents of his nose on his phone and the back of my seat
>what a comfortable ride, getting only 3 seconds of airtime every time the driver hits a coal mine sized pothole
>bus breaks down, takes half an hour for replacement to arrive
>it's only my kid's birth that I'm missing
>kind urban youth offers me some fentanyl to make the time pass faster
>bus driver decides he has had enough, and drives into a concrete support at 120km/h, taking out the bridge, passengers, and 50 bystanders
>but at least I'm not a stupid cager on a highway with a McDonald's sign next to it
I'll walk, thanks.","attachment":null,"posted":1712170091},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989390,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988676
>the average car costs at least $12000 a year
>a year
man australia is fucking crazy","attachment":null,"posted":1712170647},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989401,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989026
low IQ post","attachment":null,"posted":1712173035},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989410,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's crazy how walkable cities are actually objectively better for disabled people and children and yet NIMBYs keep using those groups as a shield against their evilness.","attachment":null,"posted":1712176053},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989410
the schizo who talks to himself is back","attachment":null,"posted":1712176270},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989413
But enough about your mother.","attachment":null,"posted":1712176533},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989418,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989410
>walkable cities are actually objectively better for disabled people
Uh-huh. So tell me if you think NJB didn't understand the question or deliberately avoided it.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712178640260733.png","filename":"FireShot Capture 001 - Not Just Bikes 🇳🇱 on Twitter_ _@MikeyWartortle @KatiePennick This i_ - archive.ph.png"},"posted":1712178640},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989418
NJB is an unhinged ideologue who is actively at war with reality, he has created so much zoomer brainrot it's unreal","attachment":null,"posted":1712178987},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"it's quite frustrating, better transit would be a good thing for me and everyone I know, and I would love to discuss trains and buses more, but anyone who knows they're talking about is repulsed by these conversations, "transit talk" has been overrun with a zombie horde of annoying children repeating what they regard as zingers, pulled from the most obnoxious and ignorant internet personalities, the jordan petersens and andrew tates of transportation. fast talkers, who manage to appear smart, so long as you have no critical thinking skills and have never thought about any of this before nor have you a shred of intellectual curiosity or interest in understanding new things","attachment":null,"posted":1712180619},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989430,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989410
>>1989426
>>1989371
>>1989356
>>1989355
Ahem, consneeder >>1989389","attachment":null,"posted":1712181628},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989431,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989430
what is it you would like me to consider about it? you're replying to different people","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712181890666434.png","filename":"you.png"},"posted":1712181890},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989421
>Man with large audience orange-pilling zoomers, with real political effects.
NJB is extremely based. Many US cities are adopting traffic calming devices and bike/bus lanes. Drivers are being demoralized, replaced, and emasculated.","attachment":null,"posted":1712190647},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989452,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989448
>many US cities are creating better car storage areas and incentivizing running down cyclists who don't "stay in their lane"
the miracle of paint on asphalt!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712191333634285.jpg","filename":"QCVWEWQ2U5CJJBRYYYS353TIHQ.jpg"},"posted":1712191333},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989452
>USA fails to implement that strange foreign technology known as "bollards"
If you actually lived in the US you wouldn't be surprised. No person advocating for reducing car dependency thinks that slapping paint on asphalt magically makes a bike line, but that's usually what we get because elected city officials refuse to even piss without getting "community engagement". It's progress though, and we are building on it. Changing the status quo is not quick or easy, not sorry if this upsets you.","attachment":null,"posted":1712194686},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989465,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989463
unlike you, I not only live in the US, but I only get around on foot, by public transport, and by bicycle. what about you? ever been on one of them bus thingies NJB is always going on about?","attachment":null,"posted":1712194881},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989465
>>1989463
and btw I don't think you ever answered my question about mileage. my car mileage for the last month is still zero. yours?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712195435949025.png","filename":"4chan.png"},"posted":1712195435},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989468,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"and with that, the NJB shill once again scuttles away to another, more circlejerk-friendly internet echo chamber","attachment":null,"posted":1712196247},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989472,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989466
About 6,000 miles a month, because I'm not a faggot.
Car has 300K already.","attachment":null,"posted":1712199124},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989504,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989472
>NJB: binge watched
>car odometer: 6000 miles added this month
>opinions about what people in actual cities are allowed to think about transit policy and cycling issues: spammed
yeah it's urbanist time","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712233602772812.png","filename":"coding.png"},"posted":1712233602},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989430
>Pay $5 one way.
My city has it so that you can pay up to a maximum of $4 a day, and one way trips cost at most $2 dollars, of course as a college student I don't have to pay. Fuck off with your bullshit.","attachment":null,"posted":1712242077},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989530
>you can pay up to a maximum of $4 a day
So what happens on your fifth trip? Do they fine you?
>of course as a college student
You have no right to shill for anything until you spend at least a year working on an actual job.","attachment":null,"posted":1712242934},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989539,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
This can be fixed by homogenizing your demographics. Effective public transit and walkability is only good when nations maintain this balance. Introduce foreigners and it all goes to hell.","attachment":null,"posted":1712244332},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989551,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989539
>just ethnically cleanse the cities bro
and here we have the common western yimby in its natural habitat","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712250791984880.jpg","filename":"housing-is-a-human-right-what-is-a-yimby.jpg"},"posted":1712250791},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989410
There is no better transportation for disabled people than car.","attachment":null,"posted":1712253906},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989539
>Effective public transit and walkability is only good when nations maintain this balance
Public transit only works when people are poor. Its just the fact. When people go past certain threshold of income when they can afford car they switch to car. Car has better qualities for user and public transit cant compete if price is no more main deciding factor.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712254254693276.jpg","filename":"itsovr.jpg"},"posted":1712254254},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989567,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989389
>I'll walk, thanks.
Walking and cycling are /n/ and part of OPs post","attachment":null,"posted":1712256323},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989570,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988676
Here in Portland a yearly transit pass costs 0 dollars because I fare evade every time.","attachment":null,"posted":1712256736},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989132
N","attachment":null,"posted":1712267924},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989504
What the fuck is NJB, son?","attachment":null,"posted":1712269112},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989600,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989598
hello tourist, what brings you to /n/ today?","attachment":null,"posted":1712269911},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988306
efficiency does not mean speed retard, plus that's an american city outside of rush hour","attachment":null,"posted":1712270623},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989600
My hatred for pubic shitsport.
I go here only for the aviation threads, not the gay communism on wheels shilling.","attachment":null,"posted":1712275749},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989615,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989613
so you're a bus driver in 3D or you just wish you could be one?","attachment":null,"posted":1712276923},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989630,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989615
I was a bus rider for 4 years, unfortunately.
Fortunately, I have a car now.
Unfortunately, /n/ wants to ban them, and force me back on the bus.","attachment":null,"posted":1712278837},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989638,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989630
no, we want to ban buses and put you on the trai/n/","attachment":null,"posted":1712282499},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989645,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989638
So, all the stuff I mentioned minus potholes?","attachment":null,"posted":1712284663},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989613
public TRANSPORTATION you retarded faggot, there are like 10 aviation threads for you go back to them.","attachment":null,"posted":1712287274},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989666,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989605
>efficiency does not mean speed retard,
It does. Time is finite resourse and it ain't free. All people eventually die after they run out of time.","attachment":null,"posted":1712295550},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989667,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989630
Socialists in a nutshell","attachment":null,"posted":1712295776},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989669,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989656
Fun fact: Americans travel more miles per capita using public TRANSPORTATION than europoors. How can it be? Ask in aviation threads.","attachment":null,"posted":1712300067},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989669
Well that's because Europeans use kilometers instead, duh","attachment":null,"posted":1712302632},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
>What's the most retarded bad faith argument against improving transit and walkability you've come across?
Pretty much any claim where the word "racist" is used in ANY direction.","attachment":null,"posted":1712305247},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989673
>conversation about literally anything
>reeee the woke mob!!!!
you might want to ask yourself why people call you racist all the time. this is not an issue most people have","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712318967071595.png","filename":"wokemob.png"},"posted":1712318967},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989465
>>1989466
>and btw I don't think you ever answered my question about mileage
???
>my car mileage for the last month is still zero. yours?
>says the faggot lucky enough to live in a place that's already a walk/bike paradise compared to anywhere else in the US
>deflecting the point that even US cities making changes reduce car dependency are still slaves to the car because none of the fucking people designing and implementing this shit actually use it
Seriously dude, fuck off your high horse. I ride public transit (bus and rail) to the airport and downtown, because lack of expansions to the system in the last 20 years means any trip not to the CBD in my area takes 3+ hours. My job is 10 miles away, even farther outside the city. I could theoretically bike it but large sections of the route would put me in 55-65mph traffic, and I'm not about to commit suicide riding in that shit. I walk for everything else because I specifically chose to live in a place where I could walk for everything other than my job.","attachment":null,"posted":1712324233},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989710,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989561
>he wants to share the road with 80+ year olds with shot reflexes, epileptics, alzheimers patients, people with paralyzed limbs
Hard no. We had to take my grandad's car from him a decade ago after he had two minor accidents and didn't realize he had even hit something. Now he has to have family drive him whenever he wants to go out, because he lives in a suburb of a midsize sunbelt city and would have to walk a mile just to get out of the neighborhood. He would have more independence living in a denser area, since he both wouldn't have to walk as far and even if he was stuck in a wheelchair or scooter, infrastructure for bikes and pedestrians also serves mobility scooters and wheelchairs as is. We're under two decades from this happening to the whole baby boomer generation.","attachment":null,"posted":1712325029},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989713,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989561
>There is no better transportation for disabled people than car.
That is the absolute truth
Public transportation is challenging at best for people with severe physical disabilities. If urbanists actually bothered to interact with anyone like that they'd understand it too. Paratransit services are better than public transit too, but it in my experience you need to plan and call ahead to use it, making it slower and less convenient than a car. Plus, there's the benefit of close access provided by handicap parking spaces.","attachment":null,"posted":1712326533},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989723,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989709
>guy who lives on a high horse: fuck off your high horse
if you actually cared about improving anything at all anywhere, you wouldn't spend all your time simping for NJB and trying to shout down people who actually are dependent on public transport, and by dependent I mean for everyday life, I don't just mean "for my trip to the airport in december" or "to go downtown for the sportsball fight"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712333891559084.png","filename":"njb.png"},"posted":1712333891},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989713
urbanists only pretend to care about disabled people as a weapon to use against people they disagree with. they actually believe that people with physical disabilities are a problem that makes public transit worse. look at any bus thread and you can see they get angry at the idea of having wheelchair lifts on a bus, or having stops closer than 3 miles apart, "that's what paratransit is for"","attachment":null,"posted":1712334802},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989710
>Now he has to have family drive him whenever he wants to go out,
Car transportation
Now try to move him via bus or subway.","attachment":null,"posted":1712337813},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989737,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989723
Where did I simp for your favorite memetuber? He abandoned the US. I live in the US, and I want my city to be less car dependent so that everyone can have the choice of whether to walk, bike, take public transit, or use a car. Right now, for a vast majority of the city's residents, cars are the only realistic choice except for a handful of trips, and those too poor to have a car are stuck with insanely long bus trips with infrequent service. I've been to NYC, the difference in coverage and frequency is night and day compared to my city, yet here you are telling me I'm the uppity one for not taking a 3 hour bus ride each way to work. You live in an awesome city, and I'm happy for you that you do. I don't, so I'll keep advocating for expanded public transit, denser mixed use areas around public transit, and safer active transit infrastructure in my own city and for others.
>>1989734
>Being dependent on family schedules to go out is better than having a bus/train every 15 minutes, or being able to walk a block to restaurants/shops/parks
>can't go shopping while family is working
>can't go to the driving range while family is working
>can't go out to eat with friends while family is working
Yeah, that sure sounds like freedom to me","attachment":null,"posted":1712338439},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989744,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989737
weren't you crowing about how based and redpilled he is and how he's performing orchiectomies on the stupid nimby cagetrolls (aka literally anyone who disagrees with him)?","attachment":null,"posted":1712339749},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989745,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989737
>try to drive disabled by public transit bus to shopping
>try to drive disabled by public transit bus to the driving range
>try to drive disabled by public transit bus to eat with friends","attachment":null,"posted":1712339984},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989747,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989744
literally who? I have not made any posts ITT talking about NJB.
>>1989745
Yes anon, elderly and disabled people are capable of walking, or taking their wheelchair or mobility scooter, to a nearby bus stop or rail station, or across the street or the next block over, to do these activities. The ADA is literally there to ensure that public transit and stores are able to accommodate these people. Denser mixed use neighborhoods allow this. Living a mile away from a main road deep inside a SFH subdivision forces them to be reliant on paratransit if it exists at all in their area and they actually qualify for it, or more likely forces them to work around their family's schedules, robbing them of their independence.","attachment":null,"posted":1712341349},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989749,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989747
if that wasn't you, then why are you answering as though it was?
if it was you, why do you insist on being wrong all the time?","attachment":null,"posted":1712342466},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989751,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989749
I never answered you as if I was that dude. Assuming you're >>1989452, I posted >>1989463. I don't give a fuck about your beef with the NJB guy, I was just telling you why we get paint instead of actual infrastructure.","attachment":null,"posted":1712343247},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989747
Why do "people" like this always pretend that taxi doesn't exist?","attachment":null,"posted":1712345779},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989765,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989760
Taxis are expensive to use frequently and the elderly and disabled are more likely to be on a fixed government income. They have their uses for last mile transportation, but they run into the same problem as everybody having their own private car. Every additional car on the road imposes a delay on the existing vehicles on the road, and this delay increases exponentially. There's also the issue that not all cabs can accommodate a wheelchair or mobility scooter, so you might not be able to get a ride at all, whereas mass transit in the US is required by law to accommodate those users.","attachment":null,"posted":1712347188},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989699
Perfect example this one. Can't even handle reading comprehension or use an /n/ related example.","attachment":null,"posted":1712347364},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989768
everyone here was enthusiastically discussing trains and stuff and out of nowhere you barged in and cried that you get called a racist all the time, I wonder why that might be?","attachment":null,"posted":1712347588},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989771,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989769
>you barged in and cried that you get called a racist all the time,
LOL. I actually struggle to see how you could misread it so hard. Try reading it one more time. Or maybe just give up.","attachment":null,"posted":1712348521},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
Train
>efficient
only with 99.9% load factor, because the body itself weighs more than passengers
>fast
only on properly maintained track, with proper geometry with continuously welded rails and concrete sleepers, that also destroys 25 villages due to said track geometry and curve radius requirements
>rides itself
expect it doesn't on main lines, need at least 2 people with 70k salary and union benefits who strike for week because operator "forgot" about wage indexation, no to mention dispatching or wayside staff
>doesn't get stuck in traffic
minimum 2 tracks are required and even then it depends on state of the infrastructure and/or how much operator paid to the track owner
>saves you money
it saves me so much money that if i wanted to ride with my (hypothetical) wife and 2 early tween kids i'd have to pay 4 times, when travelling by car cost per passenger lowers with each extra person
also
-unaccountable blackhole
-pork barrel projects for 10+ billion
-"it doesn't need to profitable" "it's a service"
>>1989261
>Also non-car dominated areas encourage walking
maybe
>which further encourages local shopping,
why should i care about "local shopping" if they have less variety, things even closer to expiration date than ultra-discount stores and they add 40% commission on top of that
>businesses and a better commercial fabric,
BS only businesses that will be there are some shitty hipster cafe with a twist, overpriced drug store, fucking female barber that barely makes end meet and chase atm if you're lucky
>a car gives you "freedom" to go wherever you want but in reality you're just shepherded towards certain shopping centres with certain chain stores so you end up with less choice
do i really "give up my freedom" if said local shops give me barely any variety and want to exploit me due to being sole shop in several mile radius?","attachment":null,"posted":1712365174},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989803
>only with 99.9% load factor, because the body itself weighs more than passengers
and tell me how much a car weighs compared to the average occupant
>only on properly maintained track, with proper geometry with continuously welded rails and concrete sleepers, that also destroys 25 villages due to said track geometry and curve radius requirements
the highway destroys 50 villages and only an american would think proper geometry of lines is a feat
>expect it doesn't on main lines, need at least 2 people with 70k salary and union benefits who strike for week because operator "forgot" about wage indexation, no to mention dispatching or wayside staff
OK that's not much for a train that moves thousands of people.
>minimum 2 tracks are required and even then it depends on state of the infrastructure and/or how much operator paid to the track owner
again only americans think a twinned line is insane to imagine
>-unaccountable blackhole
doesn't mean anything and highways are a massive use of taxpayer money as well
>-pork barrel projects for 10+ billion
another american only issue and there are still private enterprises like brightline which are already making profit","attachment":null,"posted":1712367473},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
>still need a car to get to your destination","attachment":null,"posted":1712369043},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989806
Crying about Americans and projecting is not an argument, turdie.","attachment":null,"posted":1712388285},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1989847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989747
So anon your message to disabled people is
are you cripple? Stay in your fucking hood cripple and don't dare to travel! Travel is for normal people!
Very nice message uwu.
>>1989765
>Taxis are expensive to use frequently and the elderly and disabled are more likely to be on a fixed government income.
This is why best social help for disabled is taxi and paratransit (depending on disability level) vouchers. But for lefties running the show it's not about real help it's about humiliation ritual and virtue signaling.","attachment":null,"posted":1712401003},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1990707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
>>cannot bring a woman with you unless you want to watch her get groped
Rest is true but how much of a pussy or a manlet are you for that to happen to you lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1712756680},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1990715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989847
I like how you ignore his argument and just claim he said the exact opposite of what he said.","attachment":null,"posted":1712760668},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1990911,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989026
yeah but youd have to be driving instead of sleeping/gaming/reading","attachment":null,"posted":1712865682},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1990921,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990911
driving means you can stop and take detours any time you want sightseeing, camping, checking out small towns, eat at local restaurants and sleep in an inn instead of having other passengers breathing down your neck in cramped smelly environment the whole time.","attachment":null,"posted":1712871172},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1990923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990921
on a TGV you have at most one person beside you and they will be well off, mostly likely white and bathed because they are french.","attachment":null,"posted":1712872158},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1990949,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990921
Which is fine if somebody wants to roadtrip but most people just want to get to their destination. The more people you force to roadtrip with you, the worse your own driving experience will be.","attachment":null,"posted":1712877809},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1990978,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989132
>I live in a homogenous Eastern European ethnostate
Wow man, I sure do wonder why public transportation works better there.
I'm sure my life would be nice too without having to babysit 40 million Sub-Saharans.","attachment":null,"posted":1712881681},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988639
Now do the same assuming you don't live on a train station and add another 40 mins to ride with bags around Paris, add another 15-30 mins of waiting buffer between the transport and do the same for Nice since you probably live in a hotel on some cliff. Oh and by the way I've been to Nice couple weeks ago, you french retard deliberately calculated this particular route to make a fake point, because of Nice's mountanous and absolute dogshit roads, which are half closed for the repairs. But good try I guess.","attachment":null,"posted":1713019490},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991210,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991202
you pick a parisian suburb and nice hotel then","attachment":null,"posted":1713028525},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991221,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991202
>Ok but what if I choose the most inconvenient location for my trip on either end and even my made up numbers still end up being less time than driving! gotcha!
retard","attachment":null,"posted":1713040187},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991221
>that's not fair that you're making up numbers to make your side look good
>yes, I do believe most peoples' commute is a two hour round trip for driving, with grocery stores half an hour away","attachment":null,"posted":1713049215},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990949
For anything else nothing comes even close to a plane convenience, time and price wise.","attachment":null,"posted":1713053520},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991291,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991237
air travel is the exact opposite of convenient","attachment":null,"posted":1713092225},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991365,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991237
>can't bring more than 3 oz of liquid through airport security
>have to show up at least 45-60 minutes prior to flight, otherwise checked bags don't make it to the plane
>typically need to show up earlier because security can be a shitshow for zero reason and with no warning
>have to board and de-board through a single door
nah, train wins handily over a plane for convenience","attachment":null,"posted":1713133864},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988634
This but unironically.","attachment":null,"posted":1713144077},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991385,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991291
>>1991365
Poors can't into Pre-Check","attachment":null,"posted":1713144726},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991395,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991385
I have Global Entry, which also gives me Pre-Check. Pre-check does not apply outside the US for one. For two, all airports have a minimum time before departure that you can check a bag. That's typically 45 minutes to an hour prior to departure for any major airport. For three, having Global Entry/Pre-check doesn't let you bring extra liquids through security, you fucking idiot.","attachment":null,"posted":1713151536},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991395
>Pre-check does not apply outside the US for one.
I seldom fly internationally, doesn't affect me
>For two, all airports have a minimum time before departure that you can check a bag.
Don't care, seldom check a bag and if I do I'll just get there when they tell me to because I don't find following instructions difficult
>For three, having Global Entry/Pre-check doesn't let you bring extra liquids through security, you fucking idiot.
Imagine feeling limited because you can't carry liquids. Absolute rookie","attachment":null,"posted":1713155136},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991399
>hah, you object to eating shit? plebian","attachment":null,"posted":1713189160},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991430,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
The psychotic guy in the bmw and pickup truck will now be sitting next to you.","attachment":null,"posted":1713190419},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991433,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991430
shit, maybe the cage is good after all","attachment":null,"posted":1713192008},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991599,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
One guy in this thread says walkability is bad because "It restricts mobility and forces people to live in anthills".
So retarded. It literally increases mobility tenfold. Also a city is supposed to be dense housing.
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/61422184
I knew my thread would get deleted but holy shit, some of these car people are delusional. They've been brainwashed. Imagine wanting to murder someone for suggesting to reduce car subsidies","attachment":null,"posted":1713267433},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991600,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991599
>/k/
don't you have a donut shop to be robbing","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713268269351882.jpg","filename":"donutking.jpg"},"posted":1713268269},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991606,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991599
least obsessed crossboard shill","attachment":null,"posted":1713274776},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991291
>>1991365
It's still better than sitting in a flea infested train for 12 hours like a fucking hobo.","attachment":null,"posted":1713274953},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991599
I honestly hope some day you'll get robbed and stabbed to death for spamming other boards with your faggot gripes.","attachment":null,"posted":1713275022},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991608
/k/ is really the only board i use","attachment":null,"posted":1713276884},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991615,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991612
>posted on the other board","attachment":null,"posted":1713278054},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991615
Its true, its true. This is the first time ive opened this board at all in two years","attachment":null,"posted":1713278228},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991616
You know that lying through your teeth only makes people want to murder you more, right?","attachment":null,"posted":1713278284},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991621,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991617
I suppose this doesnt prove anything since i deleted the porn threads but here
https://files.catbox.moe/udv5t6.mp4","attachment":null,"posted":1713279003},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991622,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991621
So you in fact do shit up your boards with your faggot dripes. The day of the pipe wrench cannot come soon enough for you faggots.","attachment":null,"posted":1713279523},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991623,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991622
Those are threads I opened not threads I posted a reply to","attachment":null,"posted":1713279673},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991624,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991623
I don't give a shit","attachment":null,"posted":1713279776},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991624
You stopped using full stops. I win.","attachment":null,"posted":1713280452},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990921
Yes, because most people who are going back home definitely decide to go camping in a forest or go check some random towns on the opposite end of their local mountain ridge","attachment":null,"posted":1713360966},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991770,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991385
>Fuck you, I'm rich
Typical...","attachment":null,"posted":1713361068},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991776,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991627
i hope you get cancer and spend months dying in agony","attachment":null,"posted":1713362855},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1991777,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991769
most people who are going back home take a plane to get there sooner instead of wasting an entire day sitting in a cramped stinky train for losers","attachment":null,"posted":1713362940},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992041,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991427
>Emotional argument
Woman","attachment":null,"posted":1713490577},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992576,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989562
>
this is false, theres a reason trains in first world countries have first class areas and they arent empty","attachment":null,"posted":1713736077},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992579,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
"roads were BUILT for cars"","attachment":null,"posted":1713736947},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992583,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992579
May I propose a solution?
>for all roads widened or built before 1930, cars should be limited or banned
>for all roads widened or built after 1930, cyclists should be limited or banned","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713738015155303.png","filename":"1567519254757.png"},"posted":1713738015},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992588,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992576
It looks like only inter-city (not local metro) trains offer "first class" service, and the socialist party in The Netherlands want that eliminated anyway.","attachment":null,"posted":1713739115},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
>trains
>fast
>efficient
what? riding mass transit literally takes 4 times as long as driving and you have to deal with anti social behavior
>>1988676
how does a car cost $12,000 per year?","attachment":null,"posted":1713740975},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992583
no","attachment":null,"posted":1713748612},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"ITT Americans living in a 3rd world country huffing copium","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713749697956532.png","filename":"cope.png"},"posted":1713749697},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988770
Build a tunnel","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713749884873535.png","filename":"base_tunnel.png"},"posted":1713749884},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992595
you live in a 3rd world shithole with worse public transit infrastructure than pajeets","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713750046969039.jpg","filename":"pajeet_train.jpg"},"posted":1713750046},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992613,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992612
I would not ride a pajeet train either due to the smell. also trains are 1800s tech. only third world shitholes use them over cars","attachment":null,"posted":1713750198},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992613
Just admit you live in a backwards shithole that can't even dream of reaching the levels of pajeets, let alone japs","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713750367247435.jpg","filename":"chuo-shinkansen.jpg"},"posted":1713750367},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992616,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992614
we have roads here, unlike those colonies","attachment":null,"posted":1713750523},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992617,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992616
The country that produces some of the most reliable cars famously does not have roads.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713750692213563.png","filename":"expressway.png"},"posted":1713750692},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992617
yup. if they could drive no one would take the trains in india","attachment":null,"posted":1713750796},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992619,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992618
Enjoy seething in traffic while I close my eyes and zoom past you on a train.","attachment":null,"posted":1713750883},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992620,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992619
>train
>zoom
>eyes closed
takes 4 times as long to get anywhere on a train as driving and trains are fucking full of "anti social" behavior","attachment":null,"posted":1713751245},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992622,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992620
>takes 4 times as long to get anywhere on a train as driving and trains are fucking full of "anti social" behavior
Only in your shithole country
>Jap train
>precisely on time
>Clean, immaculate in fact
>Smooth ride
>Faster than driving","attachment":null,"posted":1713751411},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992625,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992620
The Amerifag mind is fundamentally incapable of even fathoming the thought of functional infrastructure","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713751691180265.png","filename":"amerifagcantfathomworkinginfra.png"},"posted":1713751691},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992626,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992622
you forgot
>packed in like sardines
>tons of rapes
>>1992625
>be yuro
>send a bunch of assholes to the US because you don't want to pick your own cotton
>blame the US for assholes being assholes","attachment":null,"posted":1713751792},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992630,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992626
>>packed in like sardines
?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713751996656655.jpg","filename":"train.jpg"},"posted":1713751996},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Xg7ui5mLA","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713752348868112.jpg","filename":"main-qimg-a36c89dcc9f42b0277f63ae82f681908-lq.jpg"},"posted":1713752348},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992632,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988676
But you have to spend the 10k you saved on hookers because you cant get laid without a car","attachment":null,"posted":1713752364},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992640,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992631","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713754159770687.jpg","filename":"la.jpg"},"posted":1713754159},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992632
10k is honestly cheaper than a gf","attachment":null,"posted":1713755540},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992691,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
"Trains are 1800s tech"","attachment":null,"posted":1713784437},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992697,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992691
so are cars and boycycles","attachment":null,"posted":1713794741},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992699,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992625
>making cars unusable is functional infranstucture
Rangeban all third worlder communist subhumans","attachment":null,"posted":1713795846},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992709,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992699
>cars in japan
>unusable
one of the highest vehicle ownership rates in the world","attachment":null,"posted":1713803099},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992751,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989448
>NJB is extremely based
He must be paid by the Dutch government or something for how much he shills their infrastructure. The funniest was him trying to justify their shitty business parks as somehow better, which is so laughably stupid because those neighborhoods are soulless and even Dutch people think they suck.
The funniest thing is seeing how little he understood Montreal and trying to complain about it, with Montrealers pointing how absolutely wrong he was on so many points.
He's honestly just terrified of cars, and has evolved his entire personality (and now career) around whining about them. I can't wait for Youtube to pull the plug on the algorithm and kill off that stupid channel.","attachment":null,"posted":1713822241},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992808,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989448
>>1992751
NJB just wanks over the Netherlands and conveniently forgets what they built in the 60s
Alan Fisher actually offer good commentary and ways to improve NA","attachment":null,"posted":1713850472},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992873,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992808
>Next Alan Fisher video never
CityNerd is another good one for NA specific commentary.
With regards for the Netherlands though, everybody was leveling shit for cars in the 50s-70s. The Netherlands just realized what a mistake it was faster than most and reversed course. Paris was a similar hellscape into the 2000s, but has made huge quality of life improvements for pedestrians, cyclists, and transit over the past two decades.
The only thing stopping US cities from doing the same is political will. The tiniest pushback from a retired busybody stonewalls projects that were already approved and funded by voter referendum. It's fucking wild.","attachment":null,"posted":1713889580},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992881,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992709
Yet still utter trash, super taxed and suck","attachment":null,"posted":1713891599},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992883,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992873
>huge quality of life improvements for pedestrians, cyclists, and transit
those things have no life to qualifiably improve","attachment":null,"posted":1713891700},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992888,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992873
Netherlands were far better in the 70s than the shithole they are now.","attachment":null,"posted":1713892268},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992873
>The Netherlands just realized what a mistake it was faster than most and reversed course.
I think that's overstated.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713892323600881.png","filename":"2024-04-23 10_14_41-A9 AMSTERDAM PPP - Brave.png"},"posted":1713892323},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"It's so funny to read some american posters about european bicycle infrastructure. Anon it does not matter what those basedboy rainbow retards tell you on Twitter, if it's raining outside all those progressive people jump in their cars to go to the office. Hand workers, poor fucks, students, foreigners go by a bus instead. I live in München, work in a city center in a big tech corp, literally everyone come to the office with their cars for the last rainy week including today. Trust me there's literally ZERO bicycles on the roads using these retarded plastic rain bags which Twitter might advertise to you, only bicycle delivery drivers go in the rain here.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713899013391679.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240308_221943.jpg"},"posted":1713899013},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992889
>mostly rural highway going from 6 to 8 lanes for 5 miles to Schiphol airport
Oh no, the Netherlands was actually just Rhode Island in disguise this whole time! How will I ever recover?!","attachment":null,"posted":1713899409},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992909,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992907
Urbanists unironically believe "europe" = their spring break in college. Like, no one has to work in europe! I know because I was there on vacation and didn't lift a finger! Obviously they don't spell it out like that, but in their mind that is the exact mental path they follow to rationalize their quixotic ideology.","attachment":null,"posted":1713899546},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992909
This mindset is unironically why American suburbanites will never comprehend how much car dependency sucks. They only ever experience truly walkable places on vacation, so to them Tokyo or Paris or Copenhagen are no different than Disney. Nevermind that millions of people live and work in those cities without needing a car to do so.","attachment":null,"posted":1713908876},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992929,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992927
If I wanted to live in a """"walkable city"""" I would
Don't want to though, it's that simple","attachment":null,"posted":1713908990},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992930,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992929
Good for you. I do, which is why I support making my own city denser and with better transit and bike infrastructure. And also argue with you assholes on this hellsite about the merits.","attachment":null,"posted":1713909111},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992933,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992930
>I support making my own city denser
Density causes congestion.
>And also argue with you assholes
Cluster B's can never hide their contempt for others for long","attachment":null,"posted":1713909913},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992950,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992930
>we need more denser cities
>also immigration and forced integration and letting bums do whatever the fuck they want","attachment":null,"posted":1713918909},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992930
So you're the textbook example of the discord trannies that shit up this website on the clock because it doesn't follow your subhuman ideology? What a surprise it's not.","attachment":null,"posted":1713919866},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992953,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992927
Nigger you're literally the creature that he's talking about. Imagine seeing a post about urbanists being ignorant fanatics that don't know a thing about life anywhere but their mommy's basement and going on a rant about how cars are horrible and not needed.","attachment":null,"posted":1713920129},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992959,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992927
>This mindset is unironically why American suburbanites will never comprehend how much car dependency sucks.
Because it doesn't, lol. They're living it every day and having no issues with it, no matter how much propagandists call it "car dependency" or whatever bullshit.","attachment":null,"posted":1713921885},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1992962,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Earlier anti-urbanist here to chime in and say I've got no beef with trans people or immigrants. Horseshoe theory at work here. You can support human rights *and* be against ancap libertarian corporatist propaganda, who knew?","attachment":null,"posted":1713923001},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993017,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992962
For you it looks more like a circle instead of a horseshoe. You think that you stay on the opposite side just to find out you are right near the retarded commies who support iran and russia and wish the western world burn. You need just a small step with your retarded worldview, I see this happen all the time.","attachment":null,"posted":1713948156},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993017
"Commies" support russia, right. This isn't 1965 grandpa, "commies" is just a word you people use to describe anyone who thinks librarians don't belong in prison for letting kids read books or that disabled/elderly people should be able to keep their bus stops on the bus system you just "discovered" last week thanks to urbanism youtube, that they've been taking for longer than you've been alive and you want to shut down because elon levy said buses run faster when you delete all the stops (and the passengers).
You think you're the good guy because NJB taught you that people who don't have their head up their own ass are trying to "burn down the west", all the while you're trying to dismantle the systems put in place to protect the rights of people who your kind consider an impediment to "progress" (which is urbanist for fucking things up for everyone who isn't a multibillion dollar real estate developer).
A man named goebbels once said "accuse the other side of that of which you are guilty" or something to that effect, seems like the NJB crowd is taking that advice to heart. I recommend you follow your leader.","attachment":null,"posted":1713951569},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993024,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993018
Im not american, i was born in a former soviet shithole and when I say commie I know what I mean. You literally stay couple of centimeters away from commie faggots and a meter away from being a western hater. Didn't read past first two sentences since you are factually wrong right from the start.","attachment":null,"posted":1713954580},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993028,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993024
Yeah you would know a lot about disassembling the government and handing it all to oligarchs wouldn't you","attachment":null,"posted":1713954965},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993028
>I'm not a commie
>instantly proceeds to defend commie government
Le classique","attachment":null,"posted":1713957324},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993039,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993036
>unironically promoting kleptocracy
Yeah it's yimby time","attachment":null,"posted":1713961974},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993064,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992953
his point that no one uses public transport in european cities except the poor is wrong though
>>1992952
AAAAAA A DIFFERING POLITICAL OPINION SAVE ME TRUMP
get the fuck back to facebook electionfag","attachment":null,"posted":1713969129},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988676
>$12k per year
Who paid you to say that? BP? They are a big funder of climate change scientists. In no fucking world have cars ever cost 12k per year. That’s half the price of your brand new mid-sized suv. Most car loans are going to be 3 years and new cars don’t have any maintenance costs aside from a single oil change the first year. Cars just get less expensive after you pay it off. Maybe you drive like an idiot and break your car in the second or third year and have to shell out tons on money to fix it, but that’s a product of your bad decisions. I hate this retarded nanny “do nothing for yourself” culture where you people just sit on your hands and wonder why your world falls apart when you don’t maintain it. That’s not just applicable to cars but everything in your shitty life. Drive better, maintain the small shit yourself, and buy a used car for 2k. You’ll end up spending 1.5k-2k a year at most.","attachment":null,"posted":1713971628},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992933
>Density causes congestion.
Wrong, cars cause congestion. The reason is because they are the single most space-inefficient form of transportation, and space is at a premium in urban areas.
>Cluster B's can never hide their contempt for others for long
You're on 4chan, get thicker skin faggot
>>1992950
Immigration made this country great. Bring back the Ellis Island policies.
Also homeless should be given housing and social support at no cost to themselves, and those with severe mental illness and rap sheets institutionalized. They shouldn't be punished for being homeless, but they should be held accountable for any violent crimes they commit.","attachment":null,"posted":1713973204},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993094,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993074
My insurance on a cheap 5 year old hybrid is $2700 a year by itself, I haven't had an accident in 13 years and haven't had a ticket in 8 years. I've had 2 tickets in the 20 years I've been driving. I typically have at least one $700 maintenance item a year, and I've had a $450 monthly payment since I got the car. That's already $8800 a year without adding in gas or other wear items that I'm slowly using up.","attachment":null,"posted":1713974297},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993094
My insurance is $0 per year and maintenance is also $0 per year and I'm a cagetroll nimby who doesn't know what's in my interests, seems like just another >skill issue","attachment":null,"posted":1713974606},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993099,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993098
I'm really happy for you. Or sorry it happened.","attachment":null,"posted":1713975912},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993083
How's college?","attachment":null,"posted":1713976297},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993103,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993099
You should feel bad for me. It's like living in the reign of terror. There are these things called community boards. Horrible people ride bicycles on the stroads, even when there's no special green paint! And yucky nimbies, with a net worth of less than $1 billion, can just squat on the future property of multifamily developers without paying them the rent they deserve, just because of some stupid piece of paper called a "deed" that supposedly (according to communists) gives the squatters a "title" to impede progress and cause the housing crisis.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713977069543823.jpg","filename":"maxresdefault.jpg"},"posted":1713977069},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993105,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993094
I drive a cheap 12 year old Elantra that cost me 2.5k and have had to put less than 1.5k in maintenance over the almost 4 years I’ve owned the car. An oil change is $40 once or twice per year. Gas is $30 a month. Insurance is $400 a year. Rounding up, my yearly car expenses are about $1,400.00 and a one time payment of less than 3k for buying the car with cash.
I’ve taken Amtrak before and loved it, even though driving would have cost the same and been faster. I’m not against public transport, I just don’t want it coming out of my paycheck or massively interfering with the roadways I use. If I ride the train or bus, I’ll have for it, but I don’t want to pay for it if I don’t use it.
New York, Chicago, and DC have the best public transport in the Americas and aside from DC, those places are shitholes. Distance between neighbors and especially mode of transportation doesn’t have a significant impact on community. Culture does.
Maybe it’s better for the environment, but I don’t think the environment it in danger right now. I’m sure electric rails connecting dense, walkable cities has less of an impact on the environment, but there really isn’t a clean industrial society. We can offset the overall impacts to the global ecosystems and climate, but someone in the world will still suffer. It’s either going to be me getting asthma in the cities from car exhaust, or some kid in the Africa dying because they need mine the lithium for your electrically-powered life.","attachment":null,"posted":1713977723},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993112,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993105
>$3k 12 year old car
>no repair bills
>cheapest car insurance in the US by far
Smells like unicorn farts","attachment":null,"posted":1713979857},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993115,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993112
You make very poor decisions if you can’t afford a car. Your idiocy isn’t a good reason block the roads with your nanny transit line.","attachment":null,"posted":1713980113},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993064
>his point that no one uses public transport in european cities except the poor is wrong
No it's not and you've done nothing but reinforce it by outing yourself as a discord shill.
ywnbaw","attachment":null,"posted":1713989049},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993135,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993083
>Wrong, cars cause congestion.
There is next to no congestion in less dense areas. Density causes congestion no matter how much communist filth like you tries to lie about it.
>so homeless should be given housing and social support at no cost to themselves
You can pay for it then, or go fuck yourself you worthless leech.
>those with severe mental illness and rap sheets institutionalized
That is true, you should not be here but up there, with no internet access to shit up.","attachment":null,"posted":1713989164},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993136,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993134
>>1993135
Meds. Now.","attachment":null,"posted":1713990091},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993140,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993083
>"cars cause congestion"
People cause crime. The reason is that people are the only ones that are capable of being criminals, and criminals tend to be where people are.","attachment":null,"posted":1713991149},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993148,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993140
Urbanists have a solution to that too, just get rid of all the people! We can start with the olds, and the poors, and the cripples. I didn't see any of those on my spring break trip to europe. Of course a bunch of annoying loudmouth greyheads will start acting like you're committing war crimes by exterminating "undesirables" but actually this is how progress is made.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713992159298492.png","filename":"elonlevy.png"},"posted":1713992159},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993154,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
> "But but but, AMERICA'S TOO BIG"
It is, though. If you are going anywhere over 300 miles away (and often even less) it’s cheaper to fly there.","attachment":null,"posted":1713993071},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993156,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993154
Ignoring all the mountain ranges and waterways, it's 2,500 miles (4,100 km) to go from San Francisco to New York. In Europe, 2,500 (4,100 km) miles east from London is smack dab in the middle of Russia.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713993607970598.gif","filename":"1689467145055384.gif"},"posted":1713993607},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993179,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993156
>In Europe, 2,500 (4,100 km) miles east from London is smack dab in the middle of Russia.
In Europe, there's no Europe in any direction that's 4100km. The horisontal width of Europe is like 2500km and going from the Crete all the way to Northern Sweden is 3000km.","attachment":null,"posted":1713998459},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993181,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993136
For you. There's an asylum with a spot reserved for you out there as well.","attachment":null,"posted":1713998581},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993221,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
i live in Alaska, good luck building anything here
It's not a bad faith argument, we barely have any infrastructure at all","attachment":null,"posted":1714012473},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993284,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993134
>No it's not
[citation needed]
>you've done nothing but reinforce it by outing yourself as a discord shill.
I was on 4chan before discord even existed you mongoloid newfag","attachment":null,"posted":1714056111},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993156
london isn't the furthest west point in europe retard","attachment":null,"posted":1714056173},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993301,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989132
It's because America is extremely dysfunctional.
>>1989263
It's exaggerated but it isn't a meme. I don't doubt you've been to New York, but you must not have lived there. Violence is rare, but crazy people on the subway is fairly common, and it freaks people out. Honestly, high usage seems like it improves ride experience, because my large metro area has a pitiful light rail that I use and it tends to be best during commute times. If I ride it outside of commute times, it's almost guaranteed that there is going to be one or even a few crazy homeless people on the platform screaming gibberish. I just had dinner with my parents yesterday and we walked from my apartment to a nearby restaurant, which crossed by the rail platform. There was a guy literally screaming that he wanted to die and some nonsense about "the feds". The fed stuff was meaningless schizo rambling, but he also just kept screaming "I wish I was dead!!! I wish I'd never been born!!!!". That's terrifying to regular people, especially women and families or older people. All I could do was laugh and say "so you guys got the authentic light rail experience".","attachment":null,"posted":1714063179},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993305,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993285
Not the point. I picked London because that was a large city in western Europe, just like I picked San Francisco because it was a large city on the West Coast. Start from Lisbon and you still end up in Russia.","attachment":null,"posted":1714066263},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993308,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993284
>[citation needed]
Go outside after you wash away your ugly makeup, tranny. Congestion exists with overpopulation, period.
>I was on 4chan before discord even existed you mongoloid newfag
Absolutely no one will ever believe you, you worthless scum.","attachment":null,"posted":1714067117},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993309,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993301
The only things dysfunctional in America are the things non-Americans bring and proliferate.","attachment":null,"posted":1714067183},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993308
Why are you obsessed with transvestites? Seek help","attachment":null,"posted":1714067375},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993305
fair enough
but most people aren't arguing against flying from ny to sf","attachment":null,"posted":1714146005},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993540,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993308
>Congestion exists with overpopulation, period.
that has nothing to do with my point
>Absolutely no one will ever believe you, you worthless scum.
Unsurprisingly, the newfag can only resort to insults when he is exposed.","attachment":null,"posted":1714146793},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993571,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The most bad faith one is “people won’t use it!” Well they’re not going to use a shitty bike lane network.
But if you build a proper convenient network then it always gets used.","attachment":null,"posted":1714160992},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993593,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993571
>you have to build a complete bike network to my extremely high standards or it doesn't count
>wtf why is no one wanting to build bike lanes","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714169218012929.jpg","filename":"1507003169955.jpg"},"posted":1714169218},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993594,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993571
No, the bad faith one is "you need my permission to ride a bicycle, in the form of this magical green paint, and if you don't use my green paint and go EXACTLY where I tell you you're allowed to go with your children's toy, I now have your permission to run you down and kill you and then go 'was he wearing a helmet doe?' while gesturing to the pair of mangled femurs and various hair and gristle and shredded organ meat jutting out of my crumpled, gore-soaked hood
Forester was right. Urbanists need to be launched into the sun","attachment":null,"posted":1714169759},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993595,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993310
Not my fault they brigade the website with their shilling every day like this guy >>1993540","attachment":null,"posted":1714170221},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993618,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993593
Yes. Every urban and suburban city should have a bollard/concrete separated bike lane wide enough for two bikes side by side, on both sides of the road, on all roads. Randomly ending a bike lane in 45mph car traffic is the equivalent of ramping cars off an unfinished overpass.","attachment":null,"posted":1714186525},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993622,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993593
>extremely high standards
All a nigga need are concrete slabs and bike lanes that don't randomly end/turn into sharrows.","attachment":null,"posted":1714187959},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993680,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bike lanes are proven to increase ridership and make streets safer for all users of the road. Anyone opposed to bike lanes is arguing in bad faith.","attachment":null,"posted":1714225882},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993688,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993595
make claims about modal share in europe = proof of transsexuality?
?????","attachment":null,"posted":1714234634},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992640
LA isn't in America","attachment":null,"posted":1714236072},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993695,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992962
what do trannies and illegals have to do with human rights?","attachment":null,"posted":1714236177},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">ride train
>takes 6 times as long to get somewhere
>man eats your leg
https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/man-arrested-for-allegedly-taking-leg-after-california-train-incident-and-eating-it-wasco-amtrak-station-bnsf-railroad-police-evidence-suspect-resendo-tellez","attachment":null,"posted":1714238267},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989132
They're all sworn into allegiance to their country as children which ironically touts some constitutional idealism, exactly like the "commie" countries they love to talk about. Mentioning the pledge of allegiance to them is like talking about cults with a scientologist.
They are also brainwashed into believing in a retarded two party "democratic" system that's just there to hide the fact they still have holdovers from the British empire like aristocracy and the class system.
Anyway, it makes it impossible to have a discussion with them around because they will always throw it under the bus to try to paint you into their two party sportsball system.","attachment":null,"posted":1714244989},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993593
>spend a fortune
>get a senile beaurocrat to design a "network"
>sell the contract off to dodgy company
>build a bunch of shitty non-standardized markings and lanes and graft it onto existing infrastructure
>repeated fatalities, manslaughter convictions and worse driving conditions because noobs keep trying to follow the rules of the road
One of the first things we teach people is to completely ignore bike markings and ride dead centre of the lane because they will get you killed. I don't see why any cager would advocate shitty infrastructure except out of ignorance.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714246693883674.png","filename":"1700910358653965.png"},"posted":1714246693},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993727,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989613
lurk moar","attachment":null,"posted":1714247010},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989749
you faggots really need to lurk before posting, it's painful. Learn to use the website.","attachment":null,"posted":1714247192},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989347
Admittedly this was about 10-15 years ago, it was a family trip when I was a kid","attachment":null,"posted":1714283834},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Carcels flying off the rails in this thread and giving proof of every bad faith argument against better transit systems","attachment":null,"posted":1714284033},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993811,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993571
My city has a patchwork bicycle path network and honestly I don't find it too bad, I have certain routes I know that get me to work or the shops and I've got the main routes mapped out in my head. I can stay off main roads, and although there is a compromise of extra turns/ getting on and off of shared paths and perhaps having to slow down in parks it's still quite good, crucially it gets me where I need to be without too much danger.","attachment":null,"posted":1714284318},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1993812,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993301
Fair, I agree it only takes that 1/100 experience of a schizo to turn you off it, and most people (especially women) feel more threatened by that stuff.
I also find the same that high traffic/ volume usually means less schizos. Really the schizos have little to do all day so I think them hopping on a train or bus is just something for them to do.","attachment":null,"posted":1714284510},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994002,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988638
roads are payed for by the people who use them via a gas tax. Trains are mostly funded by people that don't use them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714351286},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988255
bike lanes should only exist in cities, putting them in suburbs is retard tier.","attachment":null,"posted":1714351474},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994008,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994002
you idiot, who do you think fund trains?","attachment":null,"posted":1714351647},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994026,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994008
only 23% of NYCs mta funding comes from fares. Most train funding comes from SALT property and/or income taxes. communists want to hike taxes on nontrain riders because black people avoid paying fares on the subway","attachment":null,"posted":1714353006},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994064,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994026
God, can you imagine if all these trips were made by car instead of MTA? It'd be glorious 24/7 gridlock just like the Founding Fathers intended.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714358916358202.jpg","filename":"mta ridership.jpg"},"posted":1714358916},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994068,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994064
minorities don't own/can't afford cars so the traffic wouldn't change","attachment":null,"posted":1714359414},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994135,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990923
>be me, desiring to visit my holiday home at the atlantic coast
>cycle to the closest city, hop on a train, I think to Frankfurt or Mannheim first, change onto TGV from there, TGV leaves and arrives in Saarebruck or Karlsruhe... either of both I don't remember the exact route of that day
>once there, as soon as the doors open swarms and swarms of negros, not only italians and spanish no real arabs and africans, flood the train, even making their way into first class until its packed
Every passenger on that route is required to be able to produce a reservation for a seat with its number. Regardless of whatever excemption people benefit from regarding having to be able to produce a billet for the ride.
>Train does not leave as not every 'passenger' is seated and going by their number can not be seated.
>Operators repeatedly announce over the intercom, 'passengers' without a reservation for a seat must exit the train, otherwise the train will not leave.
>No one moves.
>Eventually conductors slowly move through the train, asking each and every person to present their ticket and gesture those who have none out of the train.
>Little do they know just how smart those types are. Whoever is sent to exit the train just walks to the other end to board it again.
>The conductors make one final attempt, closing the doors of every car they have evacuated before moving on to the next one.
The whole thing took like what, 3 hours... The remaining passengers were still mostly blacks and distinctly lower class in maneurism. The ride to paris was great, speed was good, west of paris all things train are just shit.
I just cycle the route ever since. I must admit it does take me a bit longer than this particular train ride did, 3 days instead of 1.","attachment":null,"posted":1714377572},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994206,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990707
What Timmy gonna do?","attachment":null,"posted":1714403863},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994303,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988676
Shitbox car 5-7k, big city insurance for said shit box 2-3k, fuel in Australia $1.80-$2.10/L, registration $600, 2x servicing $600-800. 12k isn’t even enough, and this is for a low tier shitbox car with no swag. You ameriniggers are bad faith arguing in a thread about bad faith arguments, you guys a truly third worlders that live in a human zoo","attachment":null,"posted":1714429404},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994325,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992962
The smart position is literally the opposite of yours.","attachment":null,"posted":1714438738},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994743,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
>>not cheaper than a car
This is the most hilarious one because there's literally no possible scenario where it could ever actually be true. Between gas, repairs, car bills, etc, it could be over $1000 to take the bus to the next town over and it would STILL be cheaper than maintaining your personal shitbox.","attachment":null,"posted":1714661828},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994745,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989561
>>1989713
You're either too retarded to be online or trolling. Between blind or visually impaired people, the elder, etc, there's significantly more disabled people who either can't or shouldn't be driving then there are who "need" to drive.","attachment":null,"posted":1714662144},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994749,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989132
Yes, the US is basically a third world country thanks to how many unsavory people live in major cities, the only places that currently really have transit","attachment":null,"posted":1714663676},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994757,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994745
>You're either too retarded to be online or trolling.
Not an argument.","attachment":null,"posted":1714666530},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994763,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">Try carrying two weeks of groceries for a family of 5 in the rain during winter on a bicycle!!!!!
Such a retarded ass take. “Not every person on earth can use a bicycle for every trip in all weather scenarios, therefore there shouldn’t be any bike lanes anywhere.” They don’t realize how retarded they sound because NIMBYs lack self-awareness.","attachment":null,"posted":1714667593},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994765,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994763
>retarded ass take
>how retarded they sound
>NIMBYs lack self-awareness
Post discarded.","attachment":null,"posted":1714668525},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994784,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988306","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714679200716454.jpg","filename":"1688768158470195.jpg"},"posted":1714679200},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994785,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988712
Mackinac Island","attachment":null,"posted":1714680658},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994788,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988306
Good luck finding parking buddy","attachment":null,"posted":1714681749},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994763
>two weeks of groceries
sorry, I don't eat processed garbage like most Amerifats so I need to visit the grocery every few days anyways","attachment":null,"posted":1714682696},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994816,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994791
I have talked to Americans, even so-called “progressive” Americans, who literally think it’s impossible to buy groceries without a car. One girl tried to debate me before I explained that 99% of the world just buys some groceries in their neighborhood and walks a few blocks home.","attachment":null,"posted":1714696965},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994817,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994816
Oh word that's crazy","attachment":null,"posted":1714697236},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994819,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994791
>yeah I spend 45 minutes of day the stores every other day, it's so much more efficient and less wasteful","attachment":null,"posted":1714698206},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994821,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994819
I can feel your suburban hands typing this while planning for you 3hr shopping trip next month. The kiddos need their 300lbs of string cheese after all.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714698594618417.jpg","filename":"IMG_5770.jpg"},"posted":1714698594},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994822,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994819
I've never eaten a vegetable: the post","attachment":null,"posted":1714698744},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994827,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994821
>>1994822
Thirdies simply seething","attachment":null,"posted":1714699180},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994844,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994827
Yes, the US can be considered a third world country, largely thanks to your kind","attachment":null,"posted":1714701907},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994847,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994827
I mean, there's a significant percent of the American population who live in worse conditions than actual turdies so...","attachment":null,"posted":1714703412},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994848,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994847
>I mean
Not reading anything after that","attachment":null,"posted":1714703544},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994863,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994821
Why would it take 3 hours? Why would I spend 2 hours and 40 minutes at the store alone?
>>1994822
In real supermarkets instead of filthy bodegas, they sell vegetables that are fresh instead of being practically rotten.","attachment":null,"posted":1714709909},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994885,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How do you ride with chairs on a bicycle? Or you get a 40€ delivery for a 20€ chair?","attachment":null,"posted":1714729573},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994887,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994068
Don't lie to yourself. You know what a Nissan altima is?","attachment":null,"posted":1714730249},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994848
Reading and vegetables are for faggots","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714733861685701.jpg","filename":"4195731605_8e014e4ba7.jpg"},"posted":1714733861},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994906,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988242
Lot of other Americans don't understand how comfy trains can be. I took a few train rides in Europe and now I realize I'd much rather my commute be relaxing, reading shitposts on /n/, and maybe taking a short nap instead of having to constantly to deal with assholes on the highway and traffic jams.
>inb4 niggers
I only want trains if I can have a separate class coaches which I can already afford the higher price so I don't have to deal with that BS.","attachment":null,"posted":1714742591},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994937,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994906
>I took a few train rides in Europe and now I realize
This is about you retard
>>1992907
>>1992909
>>1992927","attachment":null,"posted":1714756573},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1994938,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994937
The last post you linked is literally about (You), you fucking numbskull","attachment":null,"posted":1714757171},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1995264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994064
>Imagine losing to fucking line 2 of the Toronto Subway
Why are US transit systems aside from NYC so cucked","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714958757466996.png","filename":"line2.png"},"posted":1714958757},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1995359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994819
If that’s what you think food shopping is like….you really need to get out more.
I’m always stunned at how flimsy the cagetroll arguments are.","attachment":null,"posted":1715006574},{"board":"n","thread":1988242,"pid":1997401,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988249
Let me actually address this point by point because you're retarded
>racism is not an argument
>just as true of your personal shitbox
>ok, and?
>not every country is Japan
>but that's bad transit
>but that's bad transit
>only if it's set up in a retarded way where you still have to drive to get there
>lol
>equivocation fallacy
Verification not required.","attachment":null,"posted":1715971438}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1988721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why is every bridge built in the last 20 years a cable-stayed bridge? They're kind of soulless and boring.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711896210157106.jpg","filename":"20220615-DJI_0882-Edit.jpg"},"posted":1711896210},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1988724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988721
is that the tappan zee?","attachment":null,"posted":1711896425},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1988726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988724
No it's the Governor Mario M. Cuomo Bridge.","attachment":null,"posted":1711896458},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1988728,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988721
I don't like them either, with a few exceptions
They're just a technological jump over previous bridge types that enable longer spans than truss/cantilever bridges and are cheaper than suspension bridges (although suspension can have a theoretical longer max. span). Also unlike truss and cantilever bridges there are fewer, if any, fracture critical members. I presume a cable stayed design uses far less steel than alternatives for their size.","attachment":null,"posted":1711896658},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1988730,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988726
no such thing","attachment":null,"posted":1711896696},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1988778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">every bridge built in the last 20 years a cable-stayed bridge
>tired pepe.jpg
9 times out of 10 we'll get some variant of concrete girder bridge.
But go on... preach about what you consider to be "soulless".","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711909368831798.jpg","filename":"S O U L .jpg"},"posted":1711909368},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1988784,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988721
They are very easy to calculate with a computer, look pretty in architecture drawings and are not as expensive to maintain as a full suspension bridge while being easier to build than a big arch.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1711910888204356.jpg","filename":"ponte-da-arrabida-porto-4.jpg"},"posted":1711910888},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1988819,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988778
>concrete girder bridge
>posts an image of what is clearly some kind of grade-separation viaduct","attachment":null,"posted":1711920069},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1988851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988819
It's a concrete girder bridge over a waterway","attachment":null,"posted":1711926339},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1989028,"name":"Anonymous Mogul","msg":">>1988851
sooo, a grade separation viaduct?","attachment":null,"posted":1712005935},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1989074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989028
What in your mind separates a bridge and a viaduct? Be specific.","attachment":null,"posted":1712020495},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1989078,"name":"Anonymous Mogul","msg":">>1989074
viaduct are a subset of bridges. what makes them distinct from normal bridges is their repetition. viaducts have many, many near identical spans. there's also a mindset distinction: viaducts separate things, bridges connect things. take an elevated metro line for example. that will involve a large amount of repeated, near identical spans with the intent to separate the metro line from road traffic, foot traffic, and other obstactles below. that makes it a viaduct.","attachment":null,"posted":1712022620},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1989083,"name":"Rich Investor","msg":"you might even say that a bridge is just a flattened out bicycle wheel","attachment":null,"posted":1712026954},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1990011,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989078
>bridges connect things
Like the opposite sides of a waterway?","attachment":null,"posted":1712462018},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1990027,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990011
yes, now you're getting it!! A viaduct over the same waterway would be avoiding interference with the waterway, don't want your highway/railway/etc to have a grade crossing with a river!","attachment":null,"posted":1712469201},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1990081,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990027
But you said viaducts separate things","attachment":null,"posted":1712499188},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1990213,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990081
exactly, in this case the viaduct separates what it is carrying from the waterway below","attachment":null,"posted":1712554880},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1991922,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988726
I heard a zoomer unironically call it that the other day and I was at a loss for words","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713443334695685.png","filename":"zoomers.png"},"posted":1713443334},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1991930,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990213
I think I get it. The road bridge (connection) crosses the water viaduct (separation)","attachment":null,"posted":1713446041},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1991999,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988721
>They're kind of soulless and boring.
You want soul and excitement?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713478271265302.jpg","filename":"Galloping-Gertie.jpg"},"posted":1713478271},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1992038,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"sovl coming through","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713489968394799.jpg","filename":"VERESK_Bridge_-_panoramio.jpg"},"posted":1713489968},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1992116,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1988721
They're cheap, they're cheap, and they're cheap. Also, they have a bit of visible drama to them that arch bridges don't have without looking as busy as a truss bridge.","attachment":null,"posted":1713522226},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1994318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991999
nta but sure that could be fun","attachment":null,"posted":1714435964},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1994371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992038
is the lower structure from building the bridge or something else?","attachment":null,"posted":1714458015},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1994404,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994371
it's the place where the shah asked the engineer and his family to stand during the first run of the bridge","attachment":null,"posted":1714483104},{"board":"n","thread":1988721,"pid":1995246,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994318
>that could be fun
Not for the poor dog.","attachment":null,"posted":1714948708}]}
{"title":"Locomotive vs Multiple Unit","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What are the considerations needed to make between choosing a locomotive or MU to power a train?
I know passenger trains in Europe tend to be MU but freight is always locomotive hauled.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713212933036750.jpg","filename":"89001_Eaton_Crossing.jpg"},"posted":1713212933},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Freight is usually loco-hauled for convenience and flexibility reasons: one day you could be dragging coal wagons, another you could be pulling oil tankers around. For passenger trains, reliability and track access charges are usually the deciding factors.
Regarding reliability: if the engine fails on a loco-hauled train, then it'll block the line for everyone else, in the freezing cold or the baking sun, with the toilet tanks filling up, until it can be rescued by another locomotive. Lose an engine on a DMU and it'll be a minor inconvenience, as there will be two or three others that can pick up the slack: or, EMU stock that was built this century will have redundant duplicates - two pantographs, multiple transformers, and so on.
Regarding track access charges: it's like how HGVs pay more road tax than a Fiat 500, because they tear up the roads more. Multiple units are only a little more heavy than a standard unpowered carriage, and the overall weight is neatly spread along the length of the train, so they'll be cheaper to use on the rails than when all the weight is concentrated into a single locomotive.
Then there's stuff like, MUs are quick to accelerate because they've a dozen powered axles up and down the train all transmitting the 'oomph' to the rails, rather than just the four on a locomotive, and all those powered axles then make it possible to perform tricks like regenerative braking.
And, from an operator's perspective, a MU means you can fit more passengers into the space where a locomotive would be, or a buffet car, or whatever. BR used to use the empty space inside locomotives for parcels and bikes, and in less enlightened times that's how the handicapped had to travel; but these days parcels and bikes aren't profitable compared to bums on seats.","attachment":null,"posted":1713217179},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991490
This is completely wrong. Locomotives have fewer elements prone to failure than EMUs, and when one EMU element breaks down the whole train stops working, often it won't even be possible to drive a multiple composition with a broken down EMU, maybe it can run under its own power to the next station but more often than not it sti has to be towed by a different EMU or a locomotive. Then once broken down you lose a whole train, while a broken down locomotive can be swapped and the rest of the train stay in use while the loco is repaired.
The truth of the matter is EMUs are preferred over locomotive-hauled trains for a sinple reason: shunting. Train companies hate shunting railroad cars, it requires workers, it requires shunting locos, it requires track space for moving cars around, etc.. With freight well fair enough you can't really get around it, but with passenger trains it's avoidable and rail operators will rather deal with the countless drawbacks of EMUs rather than shunt cars around.
EMU drawbacks include
>when it breaks down the whole train is out of service
>all the same, any small breakdown means full EMU out of service, not just the one car
>breaks down more easily than a locomotive
>awkward space distribution because of mechanical parts having to be fitted
>more noise and vibration in passenger compartment
>little flexibility, you can only couple together whole EMUs and not single cars (eg. either 8 or 16 cars with no in-between)
>you can't combine different trains like maybe through cars or a train section from another country (this is common in Europe) so you still need locos for that
tl;dr EMUs are inferior to loco-hauled trains except operations are simplified","attachment":null,"posted":1713218180},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991498,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991494
>when one EMU element breaks down the whole train stops working, often it won't even be possible to drive a multiple composition with a broken down EMU, maybe it can run under its own power to the next station
it stops working altogether but also it can carry on, and bluntly i don't think you know what you're talking about, at all","attachment":null,"posted":1713218665},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991506,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Each setup has advantages and disadvantages. I think it comes down to what each operator feels better about operating given their own territories and constraints. Personally I'd rather ride behind a conventional locomotive than on a DMU just because the engine noise and vibration is annoying. With EMUs that doesn't matter.
>>1991490
>all those powered axles then make it possible to perform tricks like regenerative braking
You can do that and dynamic braking with locomotives as well","attachment":null,"posted":1713220616},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991508,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991506
>You can do that and dynamic braking with locomotives as well
Can you think of any that do?","attachment":null,"posted":1713220927},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991517,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991494
???","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713225940444603.jpg","filename":"KuMoHa_123.jpg"},"posted":1713225940},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991508
>Can you think of any that do?
I'm not familiar with all locomotives around the world but in North America dynamic braking has been standard on locomotives built in the last 50 years, barring switchers","attachment":null,"posted":1713229611},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991582,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991506
That's one of my main complaints with DMUs.
Travelling back home from Nottingham, the Voyagers were loud and rattled when stopped in a station. The HST was silky smooth in comparison with very little noise or vibration.
Though a Stadler FLIRT might be a good compromise. It's an EMU that can be converted to a DMU by adding a power pack that has all the diesel engines. That also allows for enough space to lower the floor and have level boarding in the UK.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713248051157101.jpg","filename":"755406_at_Ipswich.jpg"},"posted":1713248051},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991585,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991582
That's an improvement. Can you walk through the power car?","attachment":null,"posted":1713252354},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991527
Fair enough. Still, I'd expect it's easier to get the motors' tractive effort down to the rails via a dozen powering axles, compared to just four; ditto braking and recovering energy with a dozen axles with motor generators on them.","attachment":null,"posted":1713252370},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991587,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i mean we joke and all, but 'engine noise and vibration, loco: SOVL, engine noise and vibration, dmu: SOVLLESS' gets tiring when it becomes clear people genuinely believe this","attachment":null,"posted":1713252619},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991494
>Locomotives have fewer elements prone to failure than EMUs
[citation needed]
>and when one EMU element breaks down the whole train stops working
[citation needed]
>breaks down more easily than a locomotive
[citation needed]
>little flexibility, you can only couple together whole EMUs and not single cars (eg. either 8 or 16 cars with no in-between)
this isn't a problem because you don't actually need to hyper-optimise the number of cars
>you can't combine different trains like maybe through cars or a train section from another country (this is common in Europe) so you still need locos for that
unless you're running an absolute shitton of through cars this isn't a problem because emus can be made compatible which each other
also you didn't actually address any of his pro-emu arguments","attachment":null,"posted":1713272686},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991605
>[citation needed]
Not him but you don't make convincing arguments either","attachment":null,"posted":1713281248},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991646,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991494
>>1991494
>when it breaks down the whole train is out of service
Not the case at all.
>all the same, any small breakdown means full EMU out of service, not just the one car
The motor car that's effected is the one that is out of operation the train still works, especially with newer EMUs going away from a dedicated motor/trailer set to ".5" motor sets.
>breaks down more easily than a locomotive
You could argue this but new emus are built around redundancy where this isn't an issue.
>awkward space distribution because of mechanical parts having to be fitted
What do you mean I've never had any issues with this unless it was older stock that had to have an ATS cabinet moved inside the train.
>more noise and vibration in passenger compartment
Only in motor cars but it's not even that bad.
>little flexibility, you can only couple together whole EMUs and not single cars (eg. either 8 or 16 cars with no in-between)
Cool the kururi line runs 1 car dmus in the middle of the day and at rush hour they hook up 3 of those 1 car DMUs together. Keikyu runs 8+4 emus in rush hour and uncouples them at shinagawa until there is enough of them on a storage track and runs them 4+4+4 all abound for different stations.
>you can't combine different trains like maybe through cars or a train section from another country (this is common in Europe) so you still need locos for that
JR tokai runs 211,311,313s together in trainsets. Jr Hokkaido even has multiple working on the Kiha 201 dmu with the 731 series emu.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713289617640831.jpg","filename":"images (2).jpg"},"posted":1713289617},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991647,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"whole load of I Don't Like It So There (crossed arms, pouts) itt","attachment":null,"posted":1713289795},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991585
Yeah, but it's narrow so you wouldn't want to squeeze through with luggage or in a wheelchair","attachment":null,"posted":1713294472},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991730,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991646
I knew keikyu coupled up their 8+4 trains at kanazawa bunko, makes sense they'd split them apart somewhere too. Do the 12 car trains terminate at shinagawa platform 3? I'd imaging trying to decouple cars on the through tracks would be tricky during peak with them essentially being a metro line. Or maybe they run out of service to the layup tracks above the portal to sengakuji before being broken down?","attachment":null,"posted":1713334559},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991734,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Imagine shilling for the EMU jew","attachment":null,"posted":1713337933},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991735,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991646
>>when it breaks down the whole train is out of service
>Not the case at all.
bruh literally no place anywhere ever runs a broken down EMU hooked up to a working one.
>The motor car that's effected is the one that is out of operation the train still works, especially with newer EMUs going away from a dedicated motor/trailer set to ".5" motor sets.
Or an EMU where one of the motor cars is broken down. It gets sent to the shops right away. So your whole argument is pointless.
>You could argue this but new emus are built around redundancy where this isn't an issue.
"Redundancy" is a strange way of spelling "added expense"
>>awkward space distribution because of mechanical parts having to be fitted
>What do you mean I've never had any issues with this unless it was older stock that had to have an ATS cabinet moved inside the train.
The only EMUs with level floors are high-floor ones. Low-floor ones need to make space at the end of the cars for the motors and all that.
Double-decker EMUs will have long, narrow corridors at the end of the cars where the mechanical elements are housed.
>>more noise and vibration in passenger compartment
>Only in motor cars but it's not even that bad.
You said yourself that EMUs are moving away from dedicated motor-trailer sets
>Cool the kururi line runs 1 car dmus in the middle of the day and at rush hour they hook up 3 of those
This only works in a extremely low-capacity situation, as hooking up a bunch of small EMUs/DMUs ends up simply being way more expensive and requiring more maintenance than one loco and a bunch of cars.
tl;dr you're wrong and I am right.","attachment":null,"posted":1713338523},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991740,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991483
Locomotive for long distance train, EMU for commuter train and HSR.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713343450820862.jpg","filename":"1200px-ElectricLoco_chs200_011.jpg"},"posted":1713343450},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991764,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991735
>bruh literally no place anywhere ever runs a broken down EMU hooked up to a working one.
and where are these places that are constantly swapping out failing loco-hauled passenger cars?
>"Redundancy" is a strange way of spelling "added expense"
do you think choosing multiple units instead of locomotives is the financially wrong choice to make
>This only works in a extremely low-capacity situation, as hooking up a bunch of small EMUs/DMUs ends up simply being way more expensive and requiring more maintenance than one loco and a bunch of cars.
he literally gave an example of 4-car units being used and split on a busy commuter line
>as hooking up a bunch of small EMUs/DMUs ends up simply being way more expensive and requiring more maintenance than one loco and a bunch of cars.
again, where are these places that are constantly removing and adding cars to meet demand?","attachment":null,"posted":1713358946},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991781,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991764
>and where are these places that are constantly swapping out failing loco-hauled passenger cars?
Locos don't fail because they're built better. After all, they're purely tractive vehicles, not a combination of tractive and passenger car.
>do you think choosing multiple units instead of locomotives is the financially wrong choice to make
Depends. But I'm ok with spending more on railways if it creates local jobs in operations rather than in manufacturing train parts in Chyna or something.
>he literally gave an example of 4-car units being used and split on a busy commuter line
You didn't get my point. The smaller your trains, the more flexibility but the more expensive overall. Two 4-car EMUs are more expensive than one 8-car EMU. That's the point. In Switzerland they're using 8-Car EMUs now for some trains. Meaning composition is 8 or 16 cars. Limited flexibility. Having 4-car EMUs would increase expense, and in the end you'd be shunting almost as much as loco+cars.
>again, where are these places that are constantly removing and adding cars to meet demand?
Switzerland. They used to adjust compositions all the time for different lines, with trains anywhere from 5 or 6 cars (I even remember riding a 3-car train once) up to 16 cars, either single deck or double deck. They still do this, just less so. They'd even set up longer trains for holidays and such. Or add a few extra cars during peak hours. They could also add or remove restaurant cars. Now the EMUs will often run with a closed restaurant car when it's not operational on that route.
I'm not even saying that EMUs don't have their use, they're good for local and commuter trains because of better acceleration. They're just not better for long distance trains. Trying to argue reliability is the dumbest argument ever. There has never been a train in Switzerland so unreliable as the new flagship long-distance EMUs. The old locos from the 60s have better reliability and are even used on commuter trains.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713365788938938.jpg","filename":"intercity-sbb_mobile.jpg"},"posted":1713365788},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991740
This","attachment":null,"posted":1713365887},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991781
>Locos don't fail because they're built better
oh ok well if we're just declaring things as though they're objective universal facts,","attachment":null,"posted":1713372191},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991939,"name":"Trybo Bike Tech","msg":">>1991483
Freight traffic is almost entirely loco-hauled as it has been proven time and time again that it is best to move tonnage at moderate speeds and loaded to the brim. There were some attempts of making freight EMUs, but all were unsuccessful. Which, of course, makes sense - as it is better to have a strong lead vehicle and lightweight ( relatively ) freight cars. You both get flexibility and only once maintenance heavy vehicle.
For passenger trains - except for some few exceptions - lightweight, distributed powered MUs are superior.
1. Locomotive does not take space at a station. EU stations are, increasingly, built for 200 or 400m long trains and it is best to have all that 400m available for boarding.
2. Distributed power allows for higher acceleration. In a highly trafficked commuter system, this might save you 5 seconds at every start/stop, but that adds up quickly if you have 40 stops on a line, or need to stop every mile or so.
3. Maintenance costs depend on speed and axle load - so you want your 200-300km/h trains to be as lightweight as possible. For this reason, french LGVs are limited to 17t and Japanese go as low as, if I recall, 12t on Shinkansen lines. This is expressed in infrastructure access costs, where it is relevant. In EU running an emu with 12 ton axle load will be cheaper than running a train of equivalent weight, but with a 22,5t axle load loco at the front.
4. Plain physics - while in fright trains you can get a 4:1 net-to-tare ratio, it is much worse for passenger trains. This is especially bad for shorter trains - as two double-decker car train weighs just a smidge more than a locomotive pulling them. You can get the same capacity of an emu with half the weight.
...","attachment":null,"posted":1713453458},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991940,"name":"Trybo Bike Tech","msg":">>1991939
Locomotive pulled trains only make sense for:
1. Night trains, where it is common to mix/match/shunt trains midway to allow more connectivity and traffic is not speed sensitive.
2. When you need to run longer trains on non-electrified territory. Larger diesel engines are cheaper to maintain and operate than an equivalent power in smaller ones.
3. You run really, really long trains - like India-level 10-15 car ones, and you already have a bunch of wagons to do it.
Also - the flexibility of loco-hauled trains is grossly overstated. Firstly - it is rarely needed. Secondly - with a fleet of EMUs of varying lengths ( pic rel - PESA elf series can be had from 2 to 6 section versions ) you can respond to traffic changes just as well and day-to-day savings from running EMU will overwhelm benefits of this mythical 'flexibility'. There is a reason why MU took over. People who run passenger trains are not dumb.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713453990048624.png","filename":"elf.png"},"posted":1713453990},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991781
>Depends. But I'm ok with spending more on railways if it creates local jobs in operations rather than in manufacturing train parts in Chyna or something.
well if you're pro-make-work jobs i don't see why you're complaining about lack of flexibility with emus
>Switzerland. They used to adjust compositions all the time for different lines, with trains anywhere from 5 or 6 cars (I even remember riding a 3-car train once) up to 16 cars, either single deck or double deck. They still do this, just less so. They'd even set up longer trains for holidays and such. Or add a few extra cars during peak hours. They could also add or remove restaurant cars. Now the EMUs will often run with a closed restaurant car when it's not operational on that route.
And what's the problem with running with extra cars?","attachment":null,"posted":1713467322},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1991995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991734
They're pretty good most of the time, the experience is far better than DMUs.
>>1991964
>And what's the problem with running with extra cars?
No problem when they're running and providing needed capacity. The issue is the extra money spent on maintenance and storage. There's a point where the benefit of spare capacity is outweighed by the increasing cost. Admittedly it's lower with coaches than EMUs but it's still there.","attachment":null,"posted":1713475821},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1992021,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991995
Metra runs 6+ car trains nearly all the time but only opens the first 2 or 4 cars to save on conductors. I guess yard operations are more expensive than the added wear on the cars. I'm not sure when they actually use all the cars because even during festival weekends they don't use the full train length.","attachment":null,"posted":1713486592},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1992150,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991995
but the additional cost of having a car running in a train as opposed to being stored somewhere is basically nil
>>1992021
>Metra runs 6+ car trains nearly all the time but only opens the first 2 or 4 cars to save on conductors
that's because american commuter rail has insane staff bloat","attachment":null,"posted":1713536257},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1992346,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why aren't Jacobs bogies more of a thing with coaches? I can only think of the TGV as an example of a locomotive + articulated coach set. They seem to be a neat idea, you can save weight and increase capacity for a given train length, lots of EMUs (like pic related) use the configuration.
I understand that freight wagons might have issues due to axle loading limits, but coaches are far lighter.
>>1992021
That's weird, maybe they're in a coach 'set' of 6 that are semi-permanently coupled together?
I'd imagine that disconnecting & reconnecting the cab car would be a pain so it's just easier.
>>1992150
It's wasted energy and there's still wear and tear to consider. Though as you say that might be negligible.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713630708461767.jpg","filename":"2560px-SBB_Giruno_by_Stadler_(47086627004).jpg"},"posted":1713630708},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1992370,"name":"Gears","msg":">>1992346
>Jacobs bogies
main downside is that cars sharing a bogie are a bitch to seperate, while the whole point of using sperate cars instead of an integrated multiple-unit design is to be flexible in their combination.
Btw, I've seen similar designs (not sure if technically a jacobs bogie or if there's special terms for it) in car-transporters and container train cars, making two-car consists with 3 or 6 axles respectively.","attachment":null,"posted":1713641260},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1992460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992370
I've always heard them referred to simply as articulated cars, jacobs bogie I only hear in reference to passenger equipment. Articulated autoracks are two cars, articulated well cars can be up to five cars, at least in US. 3 and 5 car articulated well cars are very common. I don't see it as much with autoracks.","attachment":null,"posted":1713675626},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1992472,"name":"Trybo Bike Tech","msg":">>1992346
>Why aren't Jacobs bogies more of a thing with coaches?
When going through the trouble of Jacob's bogies, it makes no sense to have them on 'dumb' coaches. If you want to keep the axle load in check, the middle sections will get about half the capacity of a full coach - or even less when vestibules are considered. Jacobs bogies are also troublesome to rearrange the train, if it's not an EMU, then why limit the inherent flexibility of the wagon consist?
This is why they are popular on EMUS, but not traditional coaches.
However, this does not mean there weren't any. A famous example was British Silver Jubilee coaches originally pulled by A4 Pacifics. Pic rel is a German-made four-car set of Polish railway's double deckers which were phased out a few years ago. Those have three axle Jacobs bogies and were being used as two, three and four car sets. Romania, I think still uses these.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713687780935699.jpg","filename":"bhp.jpg"},"posted":1713687780},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1992558,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992370
>>1992472
I'm only asking as it seems like most passenger trans are made of coach sets where you have a number of them coupled together for a long period.
The axle loading doesn't shoot up nearly as fast as you might think, a coach is an air-filled with some seats, racks, etc inside. Also, each section in an articulated set is shorter to reduce overhang inside the curves, but there's a reduction in the number of bogies over the whole train length.
The overall weight of the train goes down too, as each bogie is heavy. Maybe ~6 tons each for a lightweight design, which adds up. E.g. for a train of 8 coaches that could be a full coach's weight.
I get that this is probably more of a consideration where acceleration/ high speed performance is needed. As you say, for Amtrak and other long distance/slower services the consideration changes to reliability and easy maintenance.","attachment":null,"posted":1713726509},{"board":"n","thread":1991483,"pid":1996004,"name":"Gears","msg":">>1992460
Germany definitely has some 3 axle two car autoracks, while the container cars have 3 bogies of two axles instead due to weight.
>>1992558
Indeed those consists usually remain as is throughout the day, however from a maintenance standpoint single cars are a lot easier to handle given the facilites used for that.
Single cars can just be decoupled and then spread throughout the maintenance yard with these funny side-swiching bridges they use, while consists with jacobs bogies can only be handled in their full length.
Having properly seperate cars also allows all sorts of switching around when one is due for a service or repair. Up to just running the train without it.
For serious acceleration it's almost always just an EMU anyways, due to better ratio of tractive weight to total weight.","attachment":null,"posted":1715270169}]}
{"title":"/bqg/ - Bike Questions General","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Quill stems are pretty edition
Read this:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/
https://www.parktool.com/en-us/blog/repair-help
Old >>1991219","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713635908818346.jpg","filename":"steelisreal.jpg"},"posted":1713635908},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992357
Why did u post a faggot","attachment":null,"posted":1713636084},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992360,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992272
I do it routinely on my garbon bike with 32mm tires, but I'm not really going out of my way, it's just that there's a fucked up intersection on my regular route where if I took the normal path it would be more dangerous and slower so I cheat sometimes depending on the light timing. Unless hamplanet I wouldn't worry about it","attachment":null,"posted":1713636117},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992363,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Has anyone flared their bars successfully? I'm really struggling to get a good enough clamping force between two pieces of wood, but my vise is really shit. Heat maybe? Bars are aluminum.
Just trying to spread each side like 1-1.5cm, nothing crazy.","attachment":null,"posted":1713637243},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992364,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992363
Heat treatment is the reason aluminum bike frames don't crumple like soda cans when you ride them. Probably not the best idea to intentionally de-temper your bars just to get them into the shape you want","attachment":null,"posted":1713638243},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992364
yeah i was considering that","attachment":null,"posted":1713639410},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992369,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992363","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713639972948980.jpg","filename":"D618286C-7A3E-49A6-810E-C3EBB2BAB888.jpg"},"posted":1713639972},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992363
I mean Origin 8 makes bars of all styles for pretty cheap. Also check ebay for used, bars and stems I'm always gonna buy used unless I specifically need one type.","attachment":null,"posted":1713642272},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Wanna take my bike in to get it tuned up, new tires and maybe swap the handlebar for a road one. Is that a reasonable thing to do or should I just get a whole new bike?","attachment":null,"posted":1713643940},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992385,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992379
I'm a good guy and shame on you If you are trolling.
>get it tuned up, new tires
It can all be done by yourself, but take it "in" if you want
>swap the handlebar for a road one
this is a pain to do even by yourself an lbs would prabably screw you with the price of an entry level road bike.
if you change your handlebar to a road one, you will need road bike levers (inb4 yes there are some hipster wide handlebars with drops and normal levers but I guess you don't want that?)
and that's a cost. 40 bucks will get you a couple from aliexpress, at least a 150 bucks for super basic shimano (that is if you have mechanical disc brakes, double that price if hydraulic). but then you would have to change either front or rear deraileur or both (this depends if you are a 1x crankset fag or not)
this is doable but, as I said, a dishonest lbs would probably screw you. hell a dishonest lbs is probably going to screw you for some basic tuning and swapping some tires","attachment":null,"posted":1713644948},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992387,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992379
>>1992385
oh shit I forgot I'm on /n/ and you probably have some 20th century brake system","attachment":null,"posted":1713645420},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992388,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992379
Get a proper road bike and keep the other one for errands. If you want to save money make it a used road bike- there's always good deals around because the bike industry is great at selling freds new pointless features that don't actually make you faster.","attachment":null,"posted":1713645633},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992399,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992338
plz resbond","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713647543393482.gif","filename":"1705579003579668.gif"},"posted":1713647543},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992406,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992399
shimano mt200's are cheap and work","attachment":null,"posted":1713648753},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992412,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992371
unfortunately the 25.4 b135 in 390mm basically does not exist anymore, and there are no clones of it that i like. had i been able to find something with a 90mm reach and a 2cm flare on each side then i would have bought that. not changing my stem because there are no 1" 31.8 stems i like nor any that are drilled for cantis. not going with a steerer hanger either because my stem is slammed.
i wouldn't be doing this if i didn't have my reasons
anyway i managed with a couple of really long half inch extensions, stand on one end and pull with the other. little tricky to get even but it worked out.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713650583188041.gif","filename":"goode.gif"},"posted":1713650583},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992388
unracers actually, unironically believe that comfort and reliability are pointless","attachment":null,"posted":1713650939},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992406
thanks anon, just the ticket","attachment":null,"posted":1713651092},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992399
i just find it ridiculous that you would rather get an entirely new brake - even a hydraulic one like >>1992406 suggested - than replace the fucking barrel adjuster.","attachment":null,"posted":1713651414},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've asked before about front forks and was told to get the Markhor. I can't find the one for my size bike.
>27.5 wheel
>9X100 hub spacing
>1 1/8 straight steer tube
Can anyone suggest a fork that I can buy now? Preferably under $300.","attachment":null,"posted":1713654083},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992422,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992421
Also I'm changing my tires from 26 inch to 27.5. Rear fit good, but despite doing the measurements I'm rubbing on the front tire by like 1/2 inch.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713654298220767.jpg","filename":"IMG_5307.jpg"},"posted":1713654298},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992423,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992421
>>1992422
Looks like the rockshox judy is probably my best option unless anyone knows something else.","attachment":null,"posted":1713655907},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992425,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992416
the screw is sheared off and inside the barrel housing with the thread seized, which is part of the caliber proper. It's cheaper and faster to replace the caliper.","attachment":null,"posted":1713656226},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992425
Isn't that a short-pull caliper? Does your bike have drop bars?","attachment":null,"posted":1713656417},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992432,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992423
Changed my mind. I'm going with the Rockshox Recon Silver RL. Little more heavy duty with 32mm vs the judy 30mm. $221 seems to be a good price.","attachment":null,"posted":1713658458},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992442,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992427
yeah, it's short pull","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713661135407239.png","filename":"1699829655268341.png"},"posted":1713661135},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992445,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992432
>>1992421
>>1992422
Here are the orders.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713661631499845.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-04-20 210519.png"},"posted":1713661631},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992447,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992445
>GOLDEAL TOOPRE JACO CYCEARTH
eye cancer","attachment":null,"posted":1713662737},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992448,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992442
well if your bike has drop bars, then the other anon's suggestion of the Shimano MT200 brakes doesn't really help. The cheapest options are probably going to be the same caliper, a couple of Promax options (Render R DSK-717 and DSK-300R), or Avid BB5s. Some of those come in both long pull and short pull options, so beware. Or you could just get the barrel adjuster out and replace it. Hell, send it to me, I'll do it.","attachment":null,"posted":1713663743},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992449,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992447
Use your words, big man.","attachment":null,"posted":1713663779},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992456,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how retarded would it be to spend the same amount that would buy you new xt hubs on 90s black lx hubs? i just hate the disc mount...","attachment":null,"posted":1713674055},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992459,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992456
who cares? if you want them and they're in good shape, get them.","attachment":null,"posted":1713675418},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992461,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992357
How do time atac pedals compare to spd for touring?","attachment":null,"posted":1713676547},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992459
ya i guess
some guy from italy just posted a bunch of nos 36h on ebay, last time i looked i couldn't find very many","attachment":null,"posted":1713677508},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"should i sell my city bike? i have a belt driven nexus 8 giant anytour cs 2, but ever since i bought a road bike (caad optimo 4) i haven't ridden my old one at all, it's pretty decent for urban areas and has comfy wide tires, but it just feels too slow now. or should i go as far as to sell both and buy a gravel bike for increased tire clearance? the optimo only supports 25mm which feels a bit too slim.","attachment":null,"posted":1713690042},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992477
You're Satan, it's so obvious.","attachment":null,"posted":1713690194},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992481,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992478
???","attachment":null,"posted":1713690535},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992482,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992481
You aren't a real person like I am. That's why Satan is speaking to me and not you.","attachment":null,"posted":1713690694},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992477
i would just say it depends on what you use them for. the giant sounds like it would be nice for around town and commuting, but if you're just not using it for that anyway, then you may as well get rid of it. and then if you only had the cannondale and wished it had larger tire clearance, then it would make sense to sell that also and get a gravel bike.","attachment":null,"posted":1713692061},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992487,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992484
yeah i put commuting equipment on the cannondale like fenders and lights (sue me lycrafags), and it's way faster, only downside might be maintenance since they both sleep outside by necessity. i was thinking of getting the merida silex 400, the GRX and hydro disks seem pretty good, although it might be more of a target for theft than a rim brake bike. i'll mostly use it on paved surfaces although some of them will be a bit rougher uneven.","attachment":null,"posted":1713694822},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992489,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"do you tighten your screws to the "max" torque listed on your bike? or do you go slightly under?","attachment":null,"posted":1713697102},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992496,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I just want a simple bike for getting around town. Should I get a top of the line steel single speed or fixed gear OR should I get an entry-level road bike like the Domane A2 rim? They both cost about the same.","attachment":null,"posted":1713704117},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992499,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992461
probably better cuz there's more float, but the cleats will wear faster if you walk around in them since they're made out of brass or sum shi","attachment":null,"posted":1713707160},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992500,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992496
I think you should get a downhill mtb","attachment":null,"posted":1713707280},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992477
I did that after my job went office-optional and I quit the "nice" gym by my work in favor of the cheaper one by my apartment. I had the steel barge from the "virgin commuter" meme with all the meme commuter bits. Tubus, ortlieb, SKS, you name it. Also had obtained a legit (carbon) road bike the year before the pandemic when I became fredpilled. I do, in fact, ride it on interstates, but not often.
So at a certain point I'm like, why do I still have this commuter. My groceries get delivered. If I commute to the office, it's like once a month and I'm not going to shower and change. And it's just not fun anymore to ride a clumsy steel barge, especially since I can just citi bike if I want to be slow and wobble around the neighborhood and make drivers scared I'm some incompetent noob who will crash into them. So I sold it (the whole package including the panniers) to some kid studying to be a nurse or something.
I do have decent tire clearance though - I run 700x32 (tubeless like the KOM crush chad). My fred sled is more comfy than the barge ever was. The crabbon frame absorbs the road noise more, plus it's more agile if I want to steer around something.
tl;dr get rid of the barge, and don't look back. You won't miss it. I don't. The only thing is, chicks dug my barge because it was "pretty" and everyone thought it was "custom" lol. But I'm a raging faggot I do not require "chicks" (who do not appreciate my fred sled at all)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713707418460148.png","filename":"virgincommuter.png"},"posted":1713707418},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992502,"name":"rent free","msg":">>1992414","attachment":null,"posted":1713707425},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What size nipples do I have?
The spoke is 2mm at the threaded end and 1.85mm along its length.
The nipple is 3.2x3.2mm and 10mm from the tip to the start of the bulged head (the part that is exposed when fitted)
Is it 14G?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713708056670822.gif","filename":"IMG_2006.gif"},"posted":1713708056},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992501
i suppose both my bikes are commuter barges, i do use them daily with all those accessories and they weigh about the same. in fact the cannondale looks pretty much identical to the meme. but yeah, i don't see any reason to keep the giant.
>>1992503
>lust-provoking image","attachment":null,"posted":1713709235},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992508,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992477
IMO, you just noticed that belt drive and "low maintenance" are memes. Are you really hurting for space? Having a 2nd bike handy is great for surprise or even scheduled maintenance, if you ride a lot. Just install a hook on the wall and hang it somewhere.
>>1992501
Front racks are great, though. That's why I keep my barge, so I can strap a duffel bag to the front and warm up a little on the way the gym.
But I concur with you in the sense that even if you want to go shopping on your bike, having something like a burley travoy makes more sense than having 2kg of racks on your bike even when you're not loaded, and lets you have just one nice bike for everything.","attachment":null,"posted":1713709572},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992510,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992507
>i don't see any reason to keep the giant.
Reminds me of the time I sold one of my bikes only to realize that it was my only winter beater months later","attachment":null,"posted":1713709917},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992511,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992508
>Are you really hurting for space?
yes they're both out on the street, i don't have anywere else i can put them sadly, also i do my own maintenance
>>1992510
that makes sense, though i suppose the distinction doesn't matter that much living in a place that rains year round and doesn't have any snow in winter","attachment":null,"posted":1713710202},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992512,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Now that Kona's owner laid off pretty much every employee and only has a skeleton crew of salespeople to clear out the inventory, should you buy any Kona bike? They've also stopped paying their suppliers, so it's extremely unlikely they will have the parts to honor manufacturer warranty in the future.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713710374149141.jpg","filename":"my23_rove_dl.jpg"},"posted":1713710374},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992496
if it's flat where you live a single speed/fixed could be ok but they're no fun for climbs . I personally love gears, but when I lived in flatland I had a single speed and I never noticed it . but then I moved near the mountains and fighting the hills made a completely different riding experience","attachment":null,"posted":1713711614},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992512
>cable dick","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713713231399401.jpg","filename":"0pu669m91qm41.jpg"},"posted":1713713231},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992520,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"is this bad?
I feel like it's either fucked or it's literally nothing.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713713264861700.jpg","filename":"ding.jpg"},"posted":1713713264},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992523,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992512
>Kona's owner laid off pretty much every employee and only has a skeleton crew of salespeople to clear out the inventory
>They've also stopped paying their suppliers
What? Really? Kona's going out of business? That's sad.","attachment":null,"posted":1713714708},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992524,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992496
if you value your knees, get something with at least some gear range. mashing up hills is a fun challenge but is not something you want to do every day.
>>1992512
no. they were always overpriced. there are plenty of other brands to choose from.
>>1992519
>thinks he needs hydraulic brakes for pedaling around the suburbs
how fat are you?","attachment":null,"posted":1713714801},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992525,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992524
I weigh 110kg and I ride rim brakes on a hilly city, lol. I eat through a front rim every 2 years, no biggy.","attachment":null,"posted":1713715312},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992526,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992524
>>thinks he needs hydraulic brakes for pedaling around the suburbs
He didn't say that. And the other post didn't say anything about suburbs anyway.
how retarded are you?","attachment":null,"posted":1713715325},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992520
Looks pretty sus but I ain't know shit","attachment":null,"posted":1713715500},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992363
Ideally if you're trying to clamp tubes you want a fractal vise or a vise made for said tube.
Additionally, I'm sure you know, but aluminum hasn't the capacity for mutability that steel has. Doing what you suggest is possible but fiscally irresponsible desu
>>1992385
>anti lbs rhetoric
>ali
For fuckin shame man. You and tarkroaches are what ruin the "culture"
>>1992482
Based knower.
>>1992489
I say fuck it and just guess; but if your shits nice enough to have torque specs wynaut follow em? Your call bud
>>1992496
Oh hey, Satan again. Buy an ad.","attachment":null,"posted":1713716314},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992532,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992489
I just tighten them enough
>>1992520
Hit it with sand paper/steel wool in the rusty section to see what's lurking beneath","attachment":null,"posted":1713717636},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992525
ya it would be cheaper to replace a rotor though.
>>1992526
>defending the guy that posts >cable dick in every thread","attachment":null,"posted":1713717939},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992532
here it is cleaned up from a few angles, it looks like there's no holes or cracks.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713719006979641.jpg","filename":"dink1.jpg"},"posted":1713719006},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992524
I live in what you people call the "inner city", and I'm thinner than you","attachment":null,"posted":1713719067},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992540,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992536
Go ride. Hit it with some primer and just check over the spots ever year or so.
To me? it looks fine, just some damage from prior use.","attachment":null,"posted":1713719239},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992541,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992540
Cheers anon, appreciate that. It's on old MTB so the tubing is going to be pretty robust, also it's fairly close to the dropout where the butting will be thickest.
Just wanted a second opinion.","attachment":null,"posted":1713719420},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992542,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bike shop quoted me $250 to replace rear wheel, replace brake pads, and to cut new threads in derailleur hanger
Worth it? Seems like the other option is to just get a completely new frame (re derailleur hanger)….","attachment":null,"posted":1713719555},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992542
My bike is probably worth about $400. But idk what else to do really","attachment":null,"posted":1713720301},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"if i'm going from 8sp to 9/10 speed, does the spacing between the chainrings actually matter? friction i would imagine no, but i saw most of a 10sp 105 group for sale and was considering picking it up. (brakes, rd/fd, shifters, no cranks)","attachment":null,"posted":1713721986},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992547,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992542
you can get a m10x1.0 tap for like ten bucks, an el cheapo wheel for pretty cheap, and some brake pads for like ten bucks also. depends on the wheel, but they're probably just going to be giving you the shittiest oe style wheel, so no, probably not worth it.
why and how are the threads and wheel destroyed?","attachment":null,"posted":1713722299},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992542
totally agree with >>1992547
give us some context. your derailleur hanger is not repleaceble (is it welded to the frame)? I'm not sure but maybe you culd use some threadlocker and a T-nut, with a M10 x 1.0 as suggested on park tool.
I'm not trying to be mean but we are all (at least biologically) men here, don't you have some curiosity to repair it yourself? this is totally doable, just give us some context.","attachment":null,"posted":1713724350},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992551,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992547
>>1992548
I do have the curiosity, but I don’t really have the space. And I’ve attempted to fix some things on my own, and half the time just screwed it up worse. I’m tired of not being able to ride. The wheel is cracked in multiple places just from a long period of use I guess, and the hanger threads are stripped just from the bike being like 25 years old? Idk, I bought it second hand.","attachment":null,"posted":1713724607},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992552,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992546
You can usually go +/- 1 speed without problems. Anything beyond that and shifting gets finicky and chains are prone to dropping.","attachment":null,"posted":1713724638},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992554,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992551
i mean a tap is like 8cm long or whatever and requires an adjustable wrench and you can replace your pads with whatever multi tool you carry. but threads don't just strip themselves, did you take the rd off at some point and strip things putting it back on?
spending a hundred bucks or so is probably more attractive than $250 or even more for a new bike.
you can get pretty cheap wheelSETs from velomine","attachment":null,"posted":1713725532},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992555,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992551
ok sorry. So I guess 250 would only be (somewhat) worthy if you really like your bike and you pretend a good wheel and an excellent thread repair from your bike shop.
If not, better buy another second hand bike and try to sell this one.
If you do it by yourself, Changing the wheel would mean at least having the tools to unmount and mount the cassette (chain whip and tool). So starting from zero let's say 100? bucks for the cheapest built wheel and tools. then 10 for brake pads.
Are you sure your derailleur is welded and not replaceable like picrel? If not you would need a T-nut (5 bucks) and a drill, or a tap AND a coil. (maybe 20?) If i'ts repleaceable you could get a new derailleur hanger for 10.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713725872443907.png","filename":"Untitled.png"},"posted":1713725872},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992559,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992546
chainring spacing should be the same.
>>1992552
im running a 12 speed crankset with my 8 speed groupset. shifts fine and doesn't drop the chain. front derailleurs are very simple.","attachment":null,"posted":1713727161},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992559
oh ok i wasn't sure if the pull was different with the fd/shifter or not","attachment":null,"posted":1713727767},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Did my first bike race of the season and had to drop out because my bottom bracket came loose after about 1000 meters of climbing. So loose that the chain kept getting bumped off.
Kinda sucked because I was doing pretty well.","attachment":null,"posted":1713737193},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992592,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992581
ah man that sucks to hear
hope you can get it sorted for the next race","attachment":null,"posted":1713740650},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992581
come on man","attachment":null,"posted":1713743433},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992623,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992592
>>1992598
Pretty bummed because I was 3/4 thru. Somehow when the chain came off it pushed the FD into my cranks and snapped it. The BB probably loosened because I was torquing the shit out of it because I had inappropriate gearing.
Pretty sure all the Freds were relived that I DNF'd because I was in the leading group the whole time. Might have been embarrassing to lose against a dude in a t shirt on 1980s bike while riding carbon. There's always next race....","attachment":null,"posted":1713751603},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992628,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992623
get your bike in order. you disgust me.","attachment":null,"posted":1713751889},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992633,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992628
Gonna get a dura ace FD and a velo orange sealed BB (I hate to cough up the $50, but its french threading) so I don't have to worry again.","attachment":null,"posted":1713752371},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992633
>its french threading
oh, my apologies. i thought you had just been neglectful towards your bike, i wasn't aware that it's just defective","attachment":null,"posted":1713753034},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992639,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">abandoned bikes guy joins a race
>almost causes a massive crash/pileup because his tow rope with a milk crate full of rusted bike parts gets snagged in the freewheel","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713754045759221.jpg","filename":"Bike-Fall.jpg"},"posted":1713754045},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992649,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"what else falls under the same vein as the h plus son archetype? 700c, wide, rim brake. just wondering if there any any better options.","attachment":null,"posted":1713758447},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992650,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992649
hmmmm maybe a dt swiss r460?
Thinking back I can't think of a ton of semi-aero rim brake 700c rims. sun ringle cr-018 is similar width and weight, but not aero.
Mavic cxp pro seems to be aero and similar weight.
I have to admit aero alloy rims are pretty cool.","attachment":null,"posted":1713758783},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992652,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992650
cxp pro looks good but more narrow than what i want
>aero alloy rims are pretty cool
maybe i really should just go full aero with something like the h+son sl42....
only like 130g heavier but then again, very narrow","attachment":null,"posted":1713759341},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992652
those sl42's are pretty wild. One of these days I will lace up a wheel with either those or the cheaper velocity deep v's.","attachment":null,"posted":1713760400},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992654
25 bucks more than the deep v, but also 10mm deeper. the colored sidewall is a plus, while it lasts at least. retrogression does have nmsw deep v's in lotsa funky colors, and it's kind of tempting to get a pair to build something horrendously color matchy and gaudy.
pacenti forza looks better spec-wise between width and depth for something more shallow, but the h+son archetype just looks so much cleaner.","attachment":null,"posted":1713761141},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992657,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"If I switch crank sets, 3x to 3x, will I need a new bottom bracket? Are there slightly different widths related to the crankset itself, or is it negligible?
I’m changing the drivetrain on an old bike from late 80’s suntour to early 90’s Shimano deore lx, but keeping it 3x7 overall
Currently the bike has a 125mm wide spindle, but documentation I see for the deore lx m560 set shows it came with a 113mm bb?
Or am I just gonna have to install it and measure for any difference?","attachment":null,"posted":1713761363},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992658,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992649
The Archetype is a great rim for the niche it fits in and it's difficult to find a direct competitor since the other rims from other manufacturer that compete in its market segment aren't as wide, the only wheel better than I can find are Velocity A23s, 5.5mm less aero but 0.5mm wider internal width, same 23mm wide outer width. Any other commonly available rim like the Mavic CXP or Open are 19mm wide with 15mm internal width, very narrow compared to the Archetype or Velocity A23s, however, Mavics do come with spoke eyelets. H Plus Son TB14s come close to the size of Archetypes minus the aero, however, it does come with spoke eyelets. It's been thrown around that the TB14's smaller box shape rims are a stronger shape than Archetypes but Archetypes are already an overbuilt design for road wheels. From what I've read, SL42s and Formation Face has a big aero and speed advantage at a weight disadvantage. I've also read annecdotes when I was wheel shopping that SL42s and Formation Face aren't as a strong design as the Archetype because both don't have the internal dome on the inside of the rim like the Archetype has. Then there's also the Hydra if you want a super wide 25mm rim and are running tubeless and disc brakes or brakeless. I think I covered most of the obvious entry to mid level alloy options. Anyways, I love my Archetypes, I have 28s that mount to 30mm wide and it's super duper extra comfy","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713762630622320.jpg","filename":"archetype.jpg"},"posted":1713762630},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992659,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992658
also, Formation Face and SL42 have much narrower internal widths, not a problem if aero is more important than comfy.","attachment":null,"posted":1713762730},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992660,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992657
Make sure you get the same type. So if square taper JIS(shimano) get another square taper JIS compatible crank. If you get a campagnolo crank that uses ISO square taper spindle it won't fit right.
Really it's best to get the crank, see how it fits, and if the chainline is off estimate the spindle length required and get a new BB.
It's one of the only downsides to square taper.","attachment":null,"posted":1713763031},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992657
If manuals sais that, then You'll need a 113mm to have the correct chain line. But then again You'll have to check also What's the chain line of your currentl front derailleur. You may have to add or subtract to that 113 to fit your front derailleur.
But I don't know maybe in those dinosaurs time there weren't different chainlines.","attachment":null,"posted":1713804620},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992729,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992658
They look good but other than that there's no reason to buy them instead of DT Swiss RR411 or Kinlin XR22T. Cost more, weigh more and no tubeless compatibility","attachment":null,"posted":1713814273},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992448
Thanks anon!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713820429162897.jpg","filename":"1688281597387830.jpg"},"posted":1713820429},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992747,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992658
The fuck? I ain't reading all that.","attachment":null,"posted":1713820656},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992758,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992729
>DT Swiss RR411
Thinner rim tho so might not be as strong, same inner width as A23s so I'm sure they're comfy","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713825137441008.png","filename":"DRW_RR411_WEB_SHO_001.png"},"posted":1713825137},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992759,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992758
wow that is really tiny you weren’t lying","attachment":null,"posted":1713826085},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992775,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992729
>Kinlin XR22T
Now this one is an interesting option if widemaxxxing for road","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713831498233272.jpg","filename":"KinlinXR22T.jpg"},"posted":1713831498},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992775
i bought some of these on sale for $7 each and dude they are W I D E, but weigh 666g.
Probably going to get some cheapie hubs and see how they do. not too many (cheap) options for 28h 100/130-135 it seems.","attachment":null,"posted":1713838490},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992787
pic...","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713838906977471.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_43.jpg"},"posted":1713838906},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992787
I totally forgot about these being on sale. After doing 2 wheels it's fun and easy.
hmmm might dip in for 2 since I have some 28h rear hubs laying around.
Happy to hear they are wide and heavy.... as a big boi those are the rims I need, otherwise I go 36 spoke.
Not surprised they are wide... most of my vintage rims are 18 or 19 OD and 15 ID.....","attachment":null,"posted":1713840663},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992791
What hubs do you have? Think I might get some Ambrosio Zenith hubs, 80 bucks shipped is about the cheapest I've found for anything.","attachment":null,"posted":1713852471},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992824,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is there an actual advantage of DIY alloy wheels at this point? It doesn't seem like you save any money if you want something that isn't bottom of the barrel,, plus it's floppier than crabon and they're all so narrow","attachment":null,"posted":1713868240},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992824
It's the only way to get a new 26 inch wheel that isn't completely trash.","attachment":null,"posted":1713882138},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Need some new brakes for an old mtb.
Anyone running with magura rim brakes?
Regular V-brakes would probably be enough for me from what I've read the maguras are pretty much set and forget which is a big plus for me.
How is the modulation?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713884326602373.png","filename":"hs33-carousel-001[1].png"},"posted":1713884326},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992862,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992824
Eh, only advantage for DIY is for obscure setups (example: 650b size fixed-track wheel) or >>1992846 Just like building a bike from frameset usually costs more, I doubt there's much to save building a wheel yourself. Also, rim brakes, I wouldn't ever run a carbon wheel with rim brakes.
>plus it's floppier than crabon
material has no real effect on stiffness of a wheel, it's directly related to spoke tension","attachment":null,"posted":1713885972},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992877,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991949
>>1991844
>>1991845
>>1991853
>>1991858
Thanks, I took a closer look at it today and the rear wheel seems to be badly out of true. It's hard to say with a bad wheel but the dropouts might as be out of alignment as well. There's a local bike shop near me that does some frame work, I'm gonna take it by there and see what they think","attachment":null,"posted":1713890548},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992891,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I am a 185cm gentleman and all the metrics suggest me to get a bike sized L but I think I can get a size M according to this chart the difference is not extreme what do you think? Can I get an M?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713892608216718.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_2024-04-23-19-13-58-54_e4424258c8b8649f6e67d283a50a2cbc.jpg"},"posted":1713892608},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992893,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992891
My leg inseam is circa 85 cm","attachment":null,"posted":1713892876},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992891
Every manufacturer and every bike model has different sizing. You actually have to get on the bike to get a good idea of whether you fit on it or not.","attachment":null,"posted":1713893551},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992896,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992891
You've done research, received recommendation but chosen to ignore it. At that point, what does the opinion of some anonymous rando on a Chinese cartoon internet forum matter? You can get whatever you like. No one is going to stop you.","attachment":null,"posted":1713893729},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992921,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992891
In my experience, if you're at the lower end of L, get the M. It's easier to make a smaller bike bigger than a bigger bike smaller.
That being said, it all depends ya know?","attachment":null,"posted":1713906810},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992851
i hate these things. all the downsides of hydraulics (cost, difficult maintenance, bleeding) without the benefits of hydro disk (performance, modulation). and adjusting them fucking sucks.","attachment":null,"posted":1713907486},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992925,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992851
>set and forget
unlike v-brakes? they only remind you that it's time to switch pads, pretty much, which is a good thing.","attachment":null,"posted":1713908179},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992926,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992925
You probably want to adjust the cable tension fairly regularly, the pads will also wear unevenly unless they have the parallel feature. So you will have to be fiddling with them a bit more than with the maguras. I recently bought a used set of HS22's for 30 euros, haven't installed them to anything yet but looking forward to.","attachment":null,"posted":1713908823},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992891
The m is kinda small, but you can always run a lot of seatpost and a LONG boi stem.
>t. 182cm 87cm cycling inseam
>>1992851
Looks cool.
>>1992824
I get satisfaction, enjoyment, and custom choices.
Also what else am I going to do with 2 28 hole freewheel rear hubs from the 126mm era?
Could sell them on ebay since one is a campy record and the other is a cartridge bearing mavic hub.
Saves me money since the hubs are better then 80% of the modern shit. Most of us don't need 1200g (asploding carbon) wheels, and I like having rim brakes on aluminum rims.
>>1992813
Those are nice looking hubs. Ambrosio used to make some of the best rims back in the day.","attachment":null,"posted":1713909315},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992957,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I want an older road bike, but I don't know enough about this shit to keep myself from getting ripped off. Haven't rode a bike since I was a teen. The modern stuff I see online is all way out of my price range. I would like to put a rack on the back and strap shit to it occasionally. Miyata, Puegot, Bianchi, Cannondale, Trek, these all look like they'd fit the bill alright. Should I be looking for those brands in my size on Craigslist and Ebay? I don't want to overpay, blah blah. Sorry if this isn't a great place to ask.","attachment":null,"posted":1713920847},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992965,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992957
craigslist for sure, definitely not ebay. facebook marketplace if you make a burner, but i've noticed some people dont want to respond to you.","attachment":null,"posted":1713924884},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992967,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Do they make steel rims for fat fucks?
I keep bending my aluminum ones
also are there road tires that can handle really high psi? like 140 plus","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713925980061350.png","filename":"1649082221955.png"},"posted":1713925980},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992968,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992967
velocity cliffhangers come in a 48 spoke
maybe just go for a stiff sidewall tire like a marathon plus or something
how much do you weigh?","attachment":null,"posted":1713926490},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992969,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992967
steel rims will bend more easily than aluminum rims. If you're worried about being a fat fuck and destroying rims, then you should use the widest possible tire that you can. More air volume = more "suspension" between the road and your rim/rest of your bike.","attachment":null,"posted":1713926550},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992970,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992968
340 lb","attachment":null,"posted":1713926874},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992974,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992896
what an astonishingly unhelpful response. Anon did some research and is now doing further research on this azerbaijani SFW snuff masturbation webpage on the assumption that people here might have helpful experience to share.","attachment":null,"posted":1713927478},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992975,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992957
sure craigslist is good, but i would try and get a friend who knows about bikes to help if you can. i've located a whole bunch of craigslist bikes for friends and they've always been happy.","attachment":null,"posted":1713927628},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992976,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992891
i'm the same height and the road bikes i've had align closest with the XL on that chart. there's more to fit than just your overall height, but that's just my personal experience.","attachment":null,"posted":1713927786},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992978,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992970
DT swiss does sell rims that support 170-180kg (340lb = 150kg), like the U663, for disk brakes.
In general, look for touring bike/e-bike/cargo bike/tandem bike rims with 36 spokes, at least. And use a big, fat tire.","attachment":null,"posted":1713927957},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992979,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992978
I got the U663, can recommend. It's 180 kg certified while still 32 spokes. So sturdy it actually trued himself from my subpar wheel building. It's 25mm so you can have quite a good range of tires.
Guys don't fall for the 36 spokes meme in 2024. Using double butted spokes achieves nearly the same level of spoke stress reduction on vertical loads.
This advice is of course for people buying and building new, I don't know what to say to dumpster diving weirdoes.","attachment":null,"posted":1713930142},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992980,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992970
I would look for 26in ridgid mtb's with 32+ spokes.
They do make steel rims, but they have bad breaking so they are ill advised.
You could go for DH mtb wheelsets on a ridgid mtb. I know sun ringle mtx 39's are known as "bomb proof", and me and my dad ran a tandem with sun ringle rhyno lite's. I was 130lbs and he was 200lbs. 26in rims with 36 spokes.
You want a custom built wheel by a guy who knows you are 340lbs. Also, as the other anon said fit the largest tire you can. That aids comfort and reduces rim damage.
>>1992979
There is no downside to more spokes when you are heavy.","attachment":null,"posted":1713930365},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992982,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992979
>So sturdy it actually trued himself from my subpar wheel building
lmao, now that's tough","attachment":null,"posted":1713931259},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992989,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992980
Yes the downside is you have less choice in new hubs, and if you have 36 spokes as a priority you will have a very limited choice in rims internal diameters (giving you less choice in tires) and manufacterers. Leaving you with just a couple models if weight certified (kinda) Ryde or maybe Velocity if you are murigan. As I said my advice wasn't for vbrakers and steelisreelers.","attachment":null,"posted":1713932322},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992992,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992957
post a link to your craigslist so anons can help","attachment":null,"posted":1713934271},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992496
>getting around town
You dont want something like a Domane because it will be stolen if you leave it locked up unattended. Too exoensive of a bike.
Single speeds and fixies are for fags.
Get an 80s or 90s road bike on craigslist. Unironically.","attachment":null,"posted":1713934373},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992992
I live in the sticks of Virginia and pickins are a bit slim. Wouldn't be opposed to driving to https://richmond.craigslist.org","attachment":null,"posted":1713934416},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992994
how tall are you?","attachment":null,"posted":1713934662},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992996,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992995
6 foot","attachment":null,"posted":1713934717},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1992999,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992989
yeah I misread like a retard again. Admittedly I have run from 20 spoke bontragers up to 36 spoke road rims and I always find it's all about tension, tire, and use case.","attachment":null,"posted":1713935279},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993000,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992996
https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/d/richmond-vintage-schwinn-bike/7740106009.html
might be good if its your size but faggot seller doesn't have size listed. And chances are it will need a fair bit of work since the seller seems clueless. Modern Schwinns are shit but Schwinns from back then are good.
Other than that one, I don't know if old used bikes are just more expensive where you live or if they have just gotten more expensive the past few years. Maybe another anon who knows more than me can give some recommendations if you want to look at the several-hundred-dollar ones.
https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/d/henrico-1961-antique-royce-union/7735435160.html
looks cool to me and its your size and seems to be well taken care of by someone who knows his stuff, but I dont know anything about that brand, and while I know 70s-90s road bikes tend to be great, I dont know if something as old as 1961 is worth looking at.
But again hopefully an anon who knows more than me can add input","attachment":null,"posted":1713935323},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993001,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993000
That Royce does look nice, thank you so much Anon","attachment":null,"posted":1713935707},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993005,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992957
idk why there was no bike buy general up currently, but there is now. >>1993003 should be of help","attachment":null,"posted":1713936708},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992994
jesus dude it's like one guy has co opted the entirety of your craigslist. there are some nice bikes, but these prices are a bit much.","attachment":null,"posted":1713936731},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993008,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993005
Thanks
>>1993000
Raleigh NC is a bit over 2 hours from me. Would it be crazy to drive that far for something like this? Maybe I can talk the fellow into meeting me closer..
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/d/raleigh-vintage-lotus-with-shimano-600/7730457070.html","attachment":null,"posted":1713937401},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993009,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993005
bike buy general was converted/merged into bike buy/build general >>1991676
if not maybe it makes to combine them no?","attachment":null,"posted":1713937507},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993049,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992967
there's a good chance that the rims you bent weren't built well. if the tension is off, then they can get out of true, which throws the tension off more until they're badly bent.
.
if you're sure that's not it, then the solution is more spokes","attachment":null,"posted":1713963111},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993049
fat people will buy a BSO with half the spoke nipples not even under tension, warp it immediately, and conclude that when they save up for their first big boy bike it needs to contain 64 spokes minimum and when they see someone on normal wheels they're like pish posh that's fine for you feather weights but not for me, ever since I upgraded to this 64-spoke wheelset I haven't needed to fix my wheels unlike my last bike haw haw haw","attachment":null,"posted":1713963518},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bikebros I recently bought a Marin Bobcat 5. Not for trails in general, but rather for XC and also for city roads, some of which are complete crap. But when i was riding, i felt so damn slow can't even describe it.
Tell me, in your honest opinion, did I make a mistake in choosing a bike? Or can I make some changes for better speed? Or there's no chance","attachment":null,"posted":1713973929},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993087
yeah, you should have bought a gravel bike with 52mm tire clearance and two sets of tires/wheels","attachment":null,"posted":1713976464},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992967
You want double wall rims, and a high spoke count, and a vegan diet, fatty.","attachment":null,"posted":1713977669},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993106,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993050
More spokes do make a “stronger” wheel but yeah it is 100% coping in the modern age. There are plenty of fatasses running carbon rims with 28h successfully, and going for some non-standard hole count just lowers your choices of rims (meaning you can’t get the latest high-tech unbreakable rims, and are stuck with a shitty 90’s weinmann hoop and 36 spokes that still can’t save it)","attachment":null,"posted":1713977742},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993107,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993087
For xc mountain biking it looks like a good bike, but it is not even remotely suited for medium or long distance rides on city streets regardless of how shitty they are. For that you don't want suspension, suspension adds a fuck of a lot of weight and if it doesnt have good quality lockout then the bob will also make you a lot less efficient.
Keep the bike for mountain biking and get a different bike for city riding.
If you REALLY needed a single bike that can do city biking on rough roads and also mellow mountain biking, you'd need to go with either a cyclocross bike or a rigid (no suspension) 80s or 90s mountain bike. But the former will underperform on mountain bike trails and the latter will be slow on city streets (though a wheelset with city tires would help in that regard).
What I would do is keep your mountain bike, and get an old (70s, 80s, or 90s) road bike for the city riding, just make sure before buying that it has enough clearance for fairly wide tires (28mm or 32mm), put some Panaracer Pasela PTs on the road bike (700x28c or 700x32c tires, or if its a 27" bike then 27x1-1/4 or 27x1-1/8 tires). Such a road bike will cost like $200-300 on craigslist, less if you get a lucky find.
Marin is a great company that makes great bikes, so there is nothing wrong with your bike, its just going to be slow and inefficient on roads, paved trails, and gravel trails. Its meant for mountain bike trails, not pavement or gravel.","attachment":null,"posted":1713977998},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993123,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993106
If we were on X and I was Ylong Ma I would reply with a "100%".
Nowadays even 32 spokes are unusual for road bike rims and hubs.","attachment":null,"posted":1713983824},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993123
and consequently they're rated for ~100kg riders.
whereas the discussion is about some dude who weighs 150kg.","attachment":null,"posted":1713984104},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993107
I really liked your advice, i still have a spare frame for gravel probably with 27.5 wheels.
But can you recommend 29' city tires for Marin please? I was thinking about a Schwalbe Hurricane or a Continenta double fighter 3, but im not quite sure coz no experience at all and afraid that they'll be too soft for the road. But in the future I want to buy a tubeless Vittoria Terreno xcr","attachment":null,"posted":1713984580},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993126
not him but 29 is the same as 700c, the recommendation of paselas is good. can find em pretty cheap sometimes.","attachment":null,"posted":1713984708},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993131,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993124
you're right but buying rims with 36 spokes both old and new doesn't mean they can support more weight, it just means that the spokes will stay true longer and break less often.
do you really think 4 spokes more means 40kg more?","attachment":null,"posted":1713986252},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"5 spokes for maximum safety","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713986534027498.jpg","filename":"DDE4D4F6-A1E3-4298-A5EB-ACAFB436CF86.jpg"},"posted":1713986534},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993137,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993132
absolutely disgusting","attachment":null,"posted":1713990496},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993138,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993132
>you think mags are cool, what about my CARBS?","attachment":null,"posted":1713990941},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993139,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993137
what, you can’t lift 11 pounds or something?","attachment":null,"posted":1713990964},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993141,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993132
4 spokes for ultra maximum safety","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713991171350650.jpg","filename":"spinergy.jpg"},"posted":1713991171},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993142,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993087
all it takes is more strongness and taller gears, you can easily upgrade your gearing for cheap with a bigger chainring, if you want to min-max even further, replace the tires with slicks. That'll get you really close but if you feel like going full biketism, upgrade to rigid fork but really, that's overkill. Just get fitter, people get disappointed buying a nice bike and not realizing it wasn't their old bike that was slow but because they're unfit lmao","attachment":null,"posted":1713991488},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993152,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how the hell do i accurately measure my tire pressure? i checked with three different gauges and got three different results, with like +/- 5-10psi","attachment":null,"posted":1713992564},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993155,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993152
go ask this shit on perplexity","attachment":null,"posted":1713993375},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993157,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993127
>>1993107
>>1993142
Oh, i somehow didn’t read it carefully, but now its clear, and thank you very much for the advice guys. Now its more clearer to me what i can or need to do.
Its just that i used to ride a bike, but now, with a new one, i realized that i dont understand anything at all. What a shame.
Im just little lost with new bike because with my old i was able ride 100-110 km in 9 hours. But with Marin im not sure i was able ride even 60 kek","attachment":null,"posted":1713993616},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993158,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993155
what the hell is that","attachment":null,"posted":1713993682},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993159,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993157
Little mistake, not 9 hours but more like 11 or something","attachment":null,"posted":1713993786},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993160,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993152
Someone here once told me that if you can't tell the difference while riding, it doesn't matter.","attachment":null,"posted":1713993871},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993161,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993158
some ai chatbot that could answer your autistic question.
you want so much to get an accurate measurement? get a nice gauge. You don't want to spend big bucks on a nice gauge? get the average value between those three. 5psi tolerance is nothing if you are not preparing for the tour de france, you want to do like normal people? just respect max and min psi and then get your ass on the bike and regulate by hand based on terrain and use. that was my answer","attachment":null,"posted":1713994180},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993158
here's Claude 3 answer. tell me which one you prefer and consider if you should bother humans with autistic questions.
Accurately measuring tire pressure can be tricky, as you've experienced with getting different readings from multiple gauges. Here are some tips to get the most precise measurement:
Use a high-quality, calibrated digital tire pressure gauge. Digital gauges tend to be the most accurate compared to analog dial or pencil-type gauges
4
. Look for one that is rated for the pressure range of your tires (e.g. 160 psi for many RV or truck tires)
1
.
Check the pressure when the tires are cold, before driving, as heat from driving can cause pressure to increase and give a false reading
1
. Let the tires cool down for at least 30 minutes after driving.
Compare the reading from your gauge to the tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) in your vehicle, if equipped. TPMS is generally accurate to within +/- 1 psi according to AAA testing
5
, but may not alert until a tire is 20-30% below the recommended pressure.
If you get significantly different readings between multiple gauges (4+ psi difference), one or more gauges may be inaccurate
1
. Take your gauge to a tire shop that has a calibrated master gauge to compare against for the most precise check
1
.
Don't rely on gas station air pump gauges, which are often abused and inaccurate
1
. Invest in your own quality gauge.
Even if readings vary slightly between gauges, the most important thing is to consistently use the same gauge, check pressure regularly, and keep tires inflated to the manufacturer's recommendations for your vehicle. This will maximize tire life, handling, and fuel efficiency.","attachment":null,"posted":1713994247},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993163,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993152
Just use the same gauge so it's consistent. It doesn't matter what actual pressure you have unless you are comparing them.","attachment":null,"posted":1713994248},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993164,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993152
just pick 1 gauge to use every time and it really doesn't matter if the reading is different on another gauge. figure out what feels best, measure it, then set it to X every time.
i have a little handheld gauge with a bleed valve that works well. the gauge on a pump is harder to read and in my experience less accurate.","attachment":null,"posted":1713994256},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993165,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993161
yea i mean i was basically asking for a product recommendation","attachment":null,"posted":1713994312},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993165
kek no you weren't.","attachment":null,"posted":1713994460},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993168,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993167
i think it is pretty obvious if i want an accurate reading i'm asking for a good tool to do so with","attachment":null,"posted":1713994587},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993170,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993168
well now you got three human replies telling you that an industrially accurate reading it's not really the most important thing and an AI reply telling you to buy a digital gauge, you choose","attachment":null,"posted":1713994786},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993168
Meiser accugage is $5 and says “accurate” all over it (and the physical, “inflated metal cylinder” style of pressure reading retains accuracy better than the “miniature weight scale with a piston” style most modern ones use)","attachment":null,"posted":1713994912},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993173,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993172
m8","attachment":null,"posted":1713995576},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993174,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993173
how embarrassing","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713995644933577.jpg","filename":"1713116570174821.jpg"},"posted":1713995644},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993174
lol","attachment":null,"posted":1713995813},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993203,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I need recommendations for a headlight. Are there any decent ones around $20-30 from the chinks or am I forced to pay premium for anything decent?","attachment":null,"posted":1714007344},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993204,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993203
how bright? what kind of riding do you want to do with it? i'll shill Niterider lights all day long. Their Swift model comes in 300 and 500 lumen for $30 and $40 respectively. They're small and solid and are from a reputable brand.","attachment":null,"posted":1714007731},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993215,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993203
Newboler LIG113
I've been using it since november on another anons rec.
It's a reasonably good headlight to see by. Not quite as good as my edelux, because of the beam pattern, but it can be brighter. It's blinding to pedestrians if you're throwing the light very far ahead.
Dim and flash modes are good.
Most importantly the battery lasts a long time and the warning light works. USB C charge. Nice metal housing.
The mount is solid but I had to shim it a lot which was annoying. You wouldn't want to shift it between bikes.
It's a good combo with a smaller rubber strap light as a flash or backup.","attachment":null,"posted":1714009117},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993217,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I like nite rider and the trek ion pro RT, but beware the new treks because they're st**zo style to appease the bike karens of europe, no not the netherlands but g****ny","attachment":null,"posted":1714011136},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993222,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993217
>stvzo
does that mean they can't flash?
because a shaped cutoff and specific beam merely not projecting a trillion lumens flashlight style into people's eyes has the unintended side affect of also illuminating the road better.","attachment":null,"posted":1714013283},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993224,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993222
among other things it means you can't hang it from below your bars, they have to teeter precariously over the bars like a clueless boomer wobbling around on a front suspension hybrid, unless you aim to point all the photons into the sky.
also upside down issues aside, illuminating things above the knee level is actually a good thing unless your riding is restricted to children's parks and segregated bike paths. road signs for example. motorist's eyes and rear view mirrors. I'd say "you get the idea" but I have my doubts where st*zo apologists are concerned. and flashing has its place.","attachment":null,"posted":1714013722},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993225,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993224
nonsense. lights can't and shouldn't be upside down but they can have top mounts.
best place for a light is on the front of a front rack or fender anyway. Try riding with a light that doesn't shine in YOUR eyes when standing, you will enjoy it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714014299},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993227,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993225
>lights can't and shouldn't be upside down
yeah nah. didn't read anything else.","attachment":null,"posted":1714014830},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Even Germany realizes stvzo is an inferior light source, but it doesn’t annoy people driving. Just accept the one advantage it has (politeness) for what it is and get a real light if you don’t care about bothering drivers","attachment":null,"posted":1714015580},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993233,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">be me
>ask thread about what front fork to order
>no response
>find a fork
>came this week
>find tools I need to cut it and install the star nut
>tools coming tomorrow
>oh cool I can ride the mountain bike trails over the weekend
>realize it is going to rain all weekend
>realize that I need an adapter cause my disc brakes are now front mount to fork instead of side mount
>I'll never get to the trail
>life is suffering","attachment":null,"posted":1714016097},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993233
nice blog","attachment":null,"posted":1714016401},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993241,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993233
one brake should be fine, just squeeze harder to compensate for the lack of a front brake","attachment":null,"posted":1714018962},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993204
Early morning ride for just 2-4hours until sunrise.
>>1993215
Neat. How long does it last on regular mode?","attachment":null,"posted":1714023011},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993249,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"if you spend $200 on lights you are guaranteed to not have issues","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714023593504970.jpg","filename":"AB2066BF-5335-4CD5-B44F-7880FDBB9433.jpg"},"posted":1714023593},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993251,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I like niterider lumina's. On the lowest setting.
Think I have a 720 and it lasts around a long ass time.","attachment":null,"posted":1714025175},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993252,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993249
true
>>1993251
low isn't always the best option if you live in a rural area with no streetlights. my 500 lumen light is like the bare minimum to see well, and if i ran my cygolite ranger 1400 on low, sure it will last all night, but i really can't see shit.
get a bright ass light with a big battery or nothing. get two of them, actually.","attachment":null,"posted":1714027558},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993272,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993249
I've had some pretty expensive lights and the only difference seems to be the battery. Granted I've never gone crazy cheap (like under $90) but outside the bottom of the barrel, you still have all the same issues like mounts, overheating, and the gaskets eventually going bad and the light dying from water ingress (since I started covering all possible entry points with electrical tape, my lights have lasted a lot longer)
>>1993252
Kinda the other way around, you want powerful beams for city conditions, because your night vision is going to be fucked from car headlights and street lamps, but there will still be dark spots you need to see.","attachment":null,"posted":1714048547},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993292,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is there a 700 to 27.5 conversion rule of thumb? I was going to pick up a surly midnight special but buddy has a vaya frame set that's like 2 years old and has only been ridden once. By my math I think I could stick 27.5x2.1 on it and be good to go. I prefer the vaya geometry and I already have a 27.5 mtb wheelset to throw on but I'm as little worried about having a super low bb. Someone validate my poor life choices.","attachment":null,"posted":1714058987},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993293,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993292
you can get a rough estimate by taking the size of the wheel and adding the tire width twice to it, do it for both wheels then compare the two diameters against each other until you're close. Example:
700c = ISO 622mm so 622 + 25x2 for 25mm tires = ~672mm overall diameter with tire
27.5 = 650b = ISO 584mm so 584 + 53x2 for 2.1" tires = ~690mm overall diameter with tire
I think the 27.5" with 2.1" tire might be bigger overall than a standard road wheel","attachment":null,"posted":1714059437},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993295,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993292
if you go on bike insights you can pick your bike and tire size and compare","attachment":null,"posted":1714059906},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993306,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993293
afaik that model can take 700x45 by the specs on the website
>>1993295
I'll check that out thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1714066783},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993347,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993292
look into 700c to 650b conversions. Common in the old road bike to randonneur builds and 650b is 27.5.
Generally you can go from say a 700c x25mm to 650b x 42 depending on clearence.
So if it's disk brake and either the fork or chainstay/seatstay is wide enough you can run some 27.5 x 2.0(51mm) tires.
Or you can run smaller tires for technically easier gears.
>>1993252
Yeah that's true about rural or offroading. I used to do that with my high school club and we would run one helmet light and a bar light, mostly at medium to high power since it was so dark when offroading.
OTOH now I mostly do night time road training rides and it's pretty bright out there+ I am slow on the ascents.","attachment":null,"posted":1714073191},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Can I replace a shimano MF-TZ31 14-34t with a MF-TZ500-7 14-34t?","attachment":null,"posted":1714087351},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993428,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993141
installed on a softride for maximum retardation. love it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714087896},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://youtu.be/f6WojQO-nDY?t=321
wait, the dumpster diving spares guy is real...?","attachment":null,"posted":1714089220},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993444,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993438
nice video, I watched it all.","attachment":null,"posted":1714091180},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993451,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993438
kek","attachment":null,"posted":1714093814},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993470,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992357
I just returned a roscoe 8 that I bought for $1000 off because it had a chain creak from the shop
was it a mistake? I feel like a 2.4k mtb shouldn't be fucked from the moment I got on it
the store wasn't happy but they were nice about it (trek)
thinking of buying a used pos instead that needs fixer upping","attachment":null,"posted":1714100693},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993470
>chain creak
are you saying they couldn't fix it, or you were just like "fuck this I am out"
Either way a decent used mtb for 1k will go far.","attachment":null,"posted":1714101983},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993481,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993480
said fuck it
also the tubeless rear kept going flat, all solvable problems but for the retail of a roscoe it seemed like a bit of a lemon","attachment":null,"posted":1714102324},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993486,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993481
1000 off, but I understand when buying new you want that shit to work.
Honestly I find tubeless that's just an issue sometimes. Some wheels I swear they lose 1psi a week with a certain tire+tubeless setup.
Others it's like 5psi. Old setups can be 30psi a day..... which is when you know it needs love.
Well, let us know what you are looking for in particular and post your craigslist. For 1k you can get a good older full suss, newer hardtails from xc racers to hardcore hardtails.
Can even get enduro bikes for that price or DH.","attachment":null,"posted":1714104547},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993488,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"should i buy a brooks swallow for 150
i have chonky legs so i'm thinking my legs will rub less or something...maybe....","attachment":null,"posted":1714106893},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993488
I heard brooks were "ass hatchets" but I know many love them after breaking them in. I only have 25in quads halfway down the femur and I ride pretty much any saddle as long as I wear thin shorts/pants.
If you can run flats allow your feet to sit wider so the q-factor is wider. Thus allowing less saddle nose-thigh contact. MTB cranks do this too since they have to clear the wide chainstays.
One of the reasons I like riding mtb's for comfort since I have wider hips.","attachment":null,"posted":1714107531},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993493,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993490
i have pretty narrow hips and 22" quads, but my femurs point inward.
i have a b17n and it's comfy, butt kinda clicks in. 150 is just a pretty good price for a swallow and i think it looks pretty sleek in comparison, plus i'd have a more aggressive riding position.","attachment":null,"posted":1714108371},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993500,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993493
I am going to say the swallow might help if you are getting rub issues. Just saw the swallow vs b17n and the b17n seems to have a longer "skirt'/whatever the fuck you call that section that goes down towards the bike.
It seems to flare a little too, where as the swallow seems to tuck in so it's narrower.
Would ask on other forums like bikeforums classic and vintage section or somewhere else if you get no other answers.","attachment":null,"posted":1714114722},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993505,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993500
yeh, i mean i have read some people either trimming or punching and tying up the wings or whatever. i'd rather not punch/cut a new saddle and mess with the inherent characteristics unless i knew it would be beneficial.
i'll check","attachment":null,"posted":1714119946},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993438
i question if that pole thing is actually useful for dumpster diving","attachment":null,"posted":1714132492},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993538,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993536
just cut them off, sis","attachment":null,"posted":1714146047},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993568,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993420
yes, absolutely. they're both 7 speed freewheels.","attachment":null,"posted":1714158200},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993569,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993438
I'm so intolerant I really have to work on myself when I see this stuff I seethe and seethe. I'll spere you my comments on having all that weight on a lil weel, the tiny back tire with the suspension seatpost, how this could only work on flat paved roads because at the first pothole (you can't even see the road) you're going to break everything on your "reliable" titanium bike, etc, etc, . muh anticapitalism, muh dumpster diving. And of course you see this kind of people where they can show off, hey at least he did't spam his patreon. sorry for my bad vibes...","attachment":null,"posted":1714159828},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993569
he said he broke everything that didn't work and what he had was what wouldn't fail.
so I think he's probably fine, he's been coast to coast, if something didn't work I'm sure he'd know at this point","attachment":null,"posted":1714180374},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993608,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993569
he has been across the united states, I think he hit plenty of potholes.
Unironically who hurt you? and it may be time to get over it. Letting go is the best","attachment":null,"posted":1714180982},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993658,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"do stores usually accept saddle returns
you cant really know proper ass compatibility until riding few 100 kms","attachment":null,"posted":1714217525},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993664,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993658
Some stores have test saddles, usually bright yellow with "Test Saddle" written on them.","attachment":null,"posted":1714219176},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993666,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993658
high end shops call that a saddle fit but you're not getting a $50 saddle for 50% off, more like you're deciding between two $300 models with italian names while some shaved lanklet probes your ass and subtly insinuates that you never rode a bicycle until you bought the pinarello last year and all those other bikes, well they weren't really bikes at all see","attachment":null,"posted":1714219974},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993710,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993569
why do you hate freedom?","attachment":null,"posted":1714242280},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993710
that bike hates the freedom to take any road with a slight incline. I just hate this dude in particular for his stupid rig","attachment":null,"posted":1714245871},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993732,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993488
No, Brooks are shit.","attachment":null,"posted":1714249283},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993735,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993490
You can always widen the q factor on your road bike dawg","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714250551097409.jpg","filename":"61t5JZMQRYL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg"},"posted":1714250551},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993745,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993724
ok, if he went coast to coast, that means he went over the Rockies.
you seem like you are looking for excuses to hate a guy different from you. it's not healthy, man.","attachment":null,"posted":1714252762},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993845,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993735
WHAT THE FUCK !? If he is chafing quads on the nose it's likely he's on too wide of a tread. Just suggest something that'll at least mask ome issue. Good way to kill knees.
>>1993488
Are your knees tracking close to the top tube ? Closer than your pedals ? Are you chafing unilateral ? You might be on too wide a tread width already, with your feet out too wide for your hip socket distance and associated anatomy your body will compensate by knocking your knees in at the top of the stroke (its a straight line at the bottom of the stroke and all the angularity is absorbed by the hip joint). Knocking your knees in might cause saddle rub. Extensing pedals may solve saddle rub but aggrevate the underlying problem. Knees are meant to bend in one plane. Be sure you know what you are doing before doing anything stupid.
Most modern saddles come in at least two sizes and they're all shaped differently. If you have extremely narrow sitbones, like me, try out some extremely narrow saddles. That would solve alot of issues at once.
What's your bb ? 68mm ? Got a road double on it ? If you're on a MTB fatbike or idk what you know whats up.","attachment":null,"posted":1714305074},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993877,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I've noticed some grease seems to be leaking out of my headset top bearing recently. Should I be concerned? Am I doing something wrong? My last bearing rusted out and seized when I hung up the bike after a wet ride without drying it. This is about 5000 miles later and I'm worried it's going to do the same thing. I had a bit of a rain storm about 200 miles ago but it was early in the ride and I had another 3 hours of riding in the dry so it should have had time to dry out? These things are expensive and I'm not going to be happy if I find out I have to replace them this often.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714314458099886.png","filename":"grime.png"},"posted":1714314458},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993878,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993732
(You) are shit","attachment":null,"posted":1714315119},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993895,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993877
that looks more like your sweat's salt","attachment":null,"posted":1714320134},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993896,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993895
The drips of salt are sweat salt. The oil oozing out of the headset and the road dust accumulated on it is not sweat salt.","attachment":null,"posted":1714321079},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993900,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"seen a few white industries cranksets on aliexpress
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006592525980.html
legit or nah?
if no, any chance it's a good product still?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714323664835013.jpg","filename":"3img_3239[1].jpg"},"posted":1714323664},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993902,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993900
That sounds very legit. I got an s-works frame off temu the other day. Don't pay the westoid markup, they take us all for fools","attachment":null,"posted":1714324342},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993942,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993845
no it happens on both sides equally, but my knees do fold inward towards the top tube a bit.
i have been running 130mm saddles for a while, trying out a short one now and i think that most saddles don't have a very good sweet spot to where you aren't hitting the nose or having your thighs rub on the wings. having them completely level i think helps a bit, and i don't have any symptoms of my saddle being too high either.
i do have my cleats pretty far out so i guess wi will try and move them inward","attachment":null,"posted":1714337991},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993943,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993896
So why aren’t you replacing your ears due to the fluids oozing out of it? Bikes are put together with grease, it’s actually all over your bike","attachment":null,"posted":1714338031},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993966,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993877
If you are worried pull the stem and inspect/repack the bearing.
>sealed
just use a pick, grab next to the seal and metal and pry up.
most of my parts weep grease over time, it's normal unless you don't ride or have no grease in the bearings.
>>1993900
kek
>>1993942
Trying stuff is the best way to learn. Remember to take tools on the ride to revert, and don't go super hard until you know the setup is good.
>>1993943
Technically his cells are breaking down and repairing all the time, so he is replacing his ears.","attachment":null,"posted":1714343232},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993969,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"so where do you put your phone while wearing proper biking shorts? Putting some massive construction on the handlebar fucks with the look and behind the saddle it's too impractical. Any of you using a bag on the top tube? Still haven't found a use for those bolting spots","attachment":null,"posted":1714343756},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993973,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993969
in the waistband","attachment":null,"posted":1714344294},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993974,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993969
I seriously hope you are not wearing bib shorts without a normal cycling jersey. Cringe.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714344595522748.jpg","filename":"img_2741.jpg"},"posted":1714344595},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993976,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993974
can't stop me
>>1993969
camelback with the rest of my tools","attachment":null,"posted":1714345714},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993983,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993969
Cargo bibs or a shoulder bag. You either commit to a lycrafag lifestyle or just ride like a normal person, stop trying so hard to be a contrarian.","attachment":null,"posted":1714349385},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"kinda daydreaming about cheap fixed gear for road training. wut recommend? gaspipe is acceptable, I can apply my own rustproofing if necessary, but surely you can do cheaper than Surly. would be nice if I could fit say 28-30 WAM
>>1993974
bibs no shirt master race u mad","attachment":null,"posted":1714350061},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993987,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how freely should a cassette keep spinning after you twirl it with your fingers? because mine stops after like a quarter turn which doesn't seem right. it's a 11-34 cassette on a zipp 176D freehub","attachment":null,"posted":1714350064},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993991,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993969
my pants pocket","attachment":null,"posted":1714350495},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993987
that's sus.
without taking my wheel off and checking, I know it's at least a full rotation and I'd say more, depends on how strong you flick it I guess","attachment":null,"posted":1714350686},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1993999,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993994
so I took it off the bike and I can actually feel some play in the axle. grinding noises when I just push it back and forth with my fingers. and I can find a lot of talk about issues with the bearings in these wheels. this is going to be annoying because where I got these is a 25 mile ride from here","attachment":null,"posted":1714351110},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993999
pack them with grease and hail mary","attachment":null,"posted":1714351497},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994010,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994007
I just mean I can't just roll it to the shop in the middle of a workday on my lunch break, I'm going to have to ride on this all week and then take it in on the weekend. I don't think another 25 miles, or 150, is going to change anything
sanity check though, total bearing failure at 2700 miles is on the low side, right? surely you guys get a lot more out of your bearings, on average?","attachment":null,"posted":1714351743},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994017,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994010
yeah, definitely
I got more out of completely unmaintained cheap shimano hubs, but then again I kept my bikes at home and it doesn't rain a lot around here","attachment":null,"posted":1714352395},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994010
my feeling is it'll hold up","attachment":null,"posted":1714352463},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994034
It's a cannondale comfort, mens/unisex, with an adjustable stem. What do you want to know exactly? Those old shitty suspension forks are not particularly desirable but if it's cheap enough and you're desperate you could probably do worse","attachment":null,"posted":1714355325},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994037,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994034
All I can say is it's a hybrid for comfortable riding.
Large 26in tires, 3x chainring, suspension fork, adjustable stem.
>>1993986
used road bike setup for fixed gear with horizontal dropouts. Older bikes(pre 80's) tend to have more tire clearence, or mid 80's touring bikes setup for 27in tires have more clearance.
>why
newer (used) bikes setup for fixed gear only seem to be overpriced, at least in my region.
Also look for new deals on the Internets.
>>1994010
Should be fine","attachment":null,"posted":1714355538},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"building a trailer seems pretty simple i think, but i'm a bit hung up on how it is going to attach to the bike. bracket with hime joint on the back of the rack, arm, then another hime joint at the trailer? so the bike can lean independently while cornering. i dunno man. not sure if a hime joint will offer enough movement, but what then?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714355828789613.jpg","filename":"some kinda shi.jpg"},"posted":1714355828},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994048,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993987
make sure the lockring of the cassette isn't contacting the freehub seal behind it.
A tiny contact often causes drag.
bad is if you spin the rear wheel and it turns the cranks","attachment":null,"posted":1714356371},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994040
Could do a u-joint coming off the back of the bike, or the a seatpost attachment.
They move quite a bit and are cheap if you find a used one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714358287},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994060,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994040
there are a tonne of those kid or dog trailers floating round and some of the better 1 wheel touring ones.
i'd pick a used one up cheaply and modify it to suit your purposes.","attachment":null,"posted":1714358493},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994067,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994060
i wanted to build something like the surly one, and while i do have (access to) the appropriate stuff to weld steel, i don't for aluminum afaik. just gonna borrow my dads mig welder.
>>1994056
i didn't really want to have something on the seatpost in case it would interfere with the rear rack, but a u-joint is probably a pretty good idea. i was thinking of trying to fashion some kind of receiver system since weight is really not going to be a problem if i am going to be carrying heavy shit anyway.","attachment":null,"posted":1714359263},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994069,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994037
>used road bike setup for fixed gear with horizontal dropouts
This would be neat but yeah I feel like at least online I'm not seeing much that's still down in the appropriate price range. Maybe I just need to lurk moar, or look at more shit that's just listed as "bike, $50" or whatever.","attachment":null,"posted":1714359427},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">https://www.bicyclebluebook.com/value-guide/2010%20Cannondale%20Comfort%204/
Is this a decent bike? I can't find any info on it. A used one is for sale nearby for $70","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714359924040154.jpg","filename":"cdale_cs4_red10_m.jpg"},"posted":1714359924},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994079,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994074
It's okay.
>>1994069
Offerup, fb marketplace, and craigslist. Click on pictures you are interested in and learn about the bikes and different types.
>>1994067
Yeah if you can grab to a non-seatpost location that's great, I just know that would be easy.
I would probably grab the rear rack attachment and maybe both of the stays.","attachment":null,"posted":1714360107},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994083,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994069
>look at more shit that's just listed as "bike, $50" or whatever.
bikes that are poorly listed or poorly kept are absolutely what you need to zero in on for a fixie conversion or really any project.","attachment":null,"posted":1714360699},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994089,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994083
I did this and have too many bikes now.
So many good deals hidden out there, and it's neat seeing what you can find.","attachment":null,"posted":1714362345},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994099,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"is changing crank length obviously different than just adjusting the saddle? or is there a subtle difference?","attachment":null,"posted":1714365775},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994108,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994099
It's obviously different for me, but IDK how people perceive differences.
For instance 165mm cranks feel weird, and always have for me. 170mm is okay, but 175mm+ is best. 87cm inseam here.
As the cranks get smaller I naturally go up in rpm so it balances out, but climbing steep hills with 165mm cranks hurt my knees unless I have super low gears. DESU I have a somewhat temporary glute issue that's been going on for about 3 months but I think that was too low of seat+small cranks+rubbing brake rotors+hard ride.
Just try it out, I Iove square taper cranks since they are cheap and easy to swap for this reason.","attachment":null,"posted":1714368207},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994111,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994108
thx","attachment":null,"posted":1714368548},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"isn't titanium really brittle? wouldn't that be a pretty bad material for a bottle cage? kind of wondering since i've had aluminum ones break pretty easily with impact, but the chinkshit ti cages are cheaper than the soma ones which have a variety of mounting holes and about the same price as the minoura ones.","attachment":null,"posted":1714375184},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994138,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I wanna build a wheelset for my bike but all the rims I look at have big fuck ugly logos.
Are these just stickers that can be easily removed or is it fucked?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714379414780801.jpg","filename":"041857-02_1[1].jpg"},"posted":1714379414},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994140,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994138
Most I have encountered are stickers. Some vintage bikes I have they have come off just by riding.
I suspect any strong chemical will pull them off, and if not you can always paint it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714379766},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994164,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994074
not related to your question but b*cycle b*ue b**k" is a garbage noob bait site, please never post that URL again","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714385659243279.png","filename":"scam.png"},"posted":1714385659},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994175,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994164
I appreciate them for making anything older then 3 years old worth sub 100usd so I can pickup good deals.
Since boomers trust the car version, I bet they believe in the bike version.","attachment":null,"posted":1714389738},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994184,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994138
you can almost always remove it from the rims. I do it fairly often
hair drier if they won't lift + video rental card
then isopropyl alcohol to clean the glue off","attachment":null,"posted":1714392904},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994185,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994184
>video rental card
damm I thought I was the boomerest boomer here, how did you not lose it after all these years?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714393428761332.jpg","filename":"1714146256865121.jpg"},"posted":1714393428},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994189,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994185
still use it to get dvds on friday with my friends","attachment":null,"posted":1714395915},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Serious question how do you stop the tip of your penis getting cold in bib shorts?
I got a chill and needed to piss.
I don't want to tuck for obvious reasons.","attachment":null,"posted":1714398597},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994200
There's bibs with better wind protection like gore c5 or similar","attachment":null,"posted":1714400158},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994212,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">air leaking through the seam of the rim
Should I retape/add more tape? sealant isn't doing the job.","attachment":null,"posted":1714404487},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994217,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994040
the store-bought one I have uses a clamp to attach to the non drive chainstay and the arm goes back a few inches, then there's a spring, and then bends outward and then attaches to the side of the trailer. to mitigate the bike leaning, the
spring is really strong and inline with the arm at the clamp with a separate physical limit so it can't stretch it just twists when you lean.
I've seen internet posts where diy-ers use the connectors for air drive tools. the male is permanently mounted on the chainstay and the female is on the trailer arm. they're rated for several hundred pounds of pressure so anything you'd haul is less, and it's circular so it'll move with the bike leaning. pretty neat.","attachment":null,"posted":1714405985},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994220,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994074
a new Walmart bike is over $200 or maybe a bit cheaper.
viewed that way, you've found an awesome deal.
the question now is: is there a bike on your Craigslist that fits you better (frames come in different sizes, this is actually important) and suits your use-case better for around what you can afford. that's the bike you should buy. if that Cannondale fits your body and use-case, buy it","attachment":null,"posted":1714406474},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994138
the velocity rim I recently bought just had regular stickers on it, like the kind bumper stickers and normal-use decorative stickers are made of (vinyl?) whereas the Mavic ones have some more tenacious professional thing but those come off, too, with other anon's method","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714406910687165.jpg","filename":"IMG_20231119_110407.jpg"},"posted":1714406910},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994228
peeled right off","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714407011509541.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240429_120854.jpg"},"posted":1714407011},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994010
>>1993987
>>1993999
for the archives, the mechanic checked and said the hub is working perfectly, and I trust this guy, apparently I'm just being paranoid. he did spot a number of other things I had fucked up on my bike, which he fixed up like new, but the bearings were not on the list
in conclusion, fookin sram has been acquitted of felony premature bearing failure, at least for now","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714411528683965.jpg","filename":"bauke-mollema-sram-1280x720.jpg"},"posted":1714411528},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I got overconfident having replaced my front tube last year and thought I could do the back wheel as well, despite having an internal gear (shimano nexus 7). I think I'm close to getting things back together, but I forgot to take pictures of how these bolts (or whatever they're called go on). one is labeled 7R and other 7L, so I'm assuming right and left, but I don't know whether they go on facing to the back (like in the picture) or forward. I'd google this but I'm too inexperienced (i.e. brain damaged) to know what they're called or even what they're part of","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714413981513955.jpg","filename":"1243124123124124.jpg"},"posted":1714413981},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994260,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994254","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714417054255425.jpg","filename":"IMG_2135.jpg"},"posted":1714417054},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994262,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994254
Normally they are installed facing forwards. But IIRC it doesn't matter because you can clock the hub 180 degrees.","attachment":null,"posted":1714417291},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994260
>>1994262
awesome, thank you so much","attachment":null,"posted":1714417544},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994272,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994138
embrace them, it's the coolest thing trying to align in an aesthatically pleasing way valve hole, rim stickers, tire brand and name, hub logo","attachment":null,"posted":1714420749},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994304,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994164
I hear ya but I only posted it because it was actually the only link I could find on the bike, I'd never even heard of blue bike before
>>1994220
>>1994079
I'm gonna go check it out today. I've been looking awhile for a good name brand bike under $100. A couple Giants but they never responded. It may be a tad small but we'll see. Thanks for the feedback","attachment":null,"posted":1714429486},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"do you pronounce nitto like neato or nitto
hearing people say neato bothers me, why shoule ni make a nee- sound over a nih sound","attachment":null,"posted":1714441516},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994341,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994340
You say it like two words “neat toe” in japanese","attachment":null,"posted":1714441753},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994342,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994340
It's a Japanese company with a Japanese name, it doesn't matter how you think it should be pronounced, it's just how it is.","attachment":null,"posted":1714444274},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994343,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994340
As an american I pronounce things how I want to.
neato doesn't work for me since it can be used as a adjective.","attachment":null,"posted":1714444542},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994344,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994342
>>1994341
i dont speak nip
when referencing the tire company, also japanese, i have NEVER heard anyone say neat toe. so everyone i've ever heard sat nit toe including myself has been wrong? crazy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714444576},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994351,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Yes I post rd questions in this thread every day. Just got bike back from shop. Try to shift to smallest ring in the back, and the chain gets stuck on picrel washer (?) that the derailleur is screwed into.
Wtf is going on. Is the mechanic retarded? Can this be adjusted with a limit screw? I’m confused","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714446825177861.jpg","filename":"IMG_8890.jpg"},"posted":1714446825},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994352,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994351
Kinda looks like it's an extra nut for the derailleur mounting bolt.
Of course your chain rubs on the smallest gear since that plate is too close to allow the chain to go by as your peddling.
You could take it back to the shop, you could unscrew the derailleur and see if you need that piece or not.","attachment":null,"posted":1714447180},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994354,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994352
Ok, thanks. So they just fucked up. Guess I’ll make them fix it for free…","attachment":null,"posted":1714447835},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994368,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994351
>Is the mechanic retarded?
Probably. I've never seen a nut to secure a rear derailleur.
>Can this be adjusted with a limit screw?
No.
>>1994354
>Guess I’ll make them fix it for free…
Go get 'em champ!","attachment":null,"posted":1714456867},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994370,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994351
>Yes I post rd questions in this thread every day.
Forgot to ask: Are you Bianchibro?","attachment":null,"posted":1714457397},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994375,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994352","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714461139530962.png","filename":"merriam-webster.png"},"posted":1714461139},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994377,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994351
>>1994354
>>1994368
Looks like Wheels Mfg "Dropout Saver", or similar.
>>1994375
Posters like you are why this thread is eternally shit.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714461473823617.jpg","filename":"sl1000.jpg"},"posted":1714461473},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994378,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994351
How hard does it grind? I had this issue with a derailleur adapter for my hangerless bike and ended up grinding it down with a file until it was clear.","attachment":null,"posted":1714463147},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994379,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994344
Bicycle enjoyers are far more educated then cagers, this explains the discrepancy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714463332},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994384,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994379
i don't think this is inherently true but it's hard to draw comparisons. fred who drops 10k on a uci race bike is kind of like the same layman who drops a lot of money on a high spec porsche or whatever. he buys this because it's fast, but can't necessarily utilize his vehicle to obtain the benefit it would bring him. this analogy doesn't hold up on the other end of the spectrum really, but there are certainly people that have things "register on the butt dyno" even though these things are either really minute or placebo. cluelessness exists within both realms, i mean think of all the dumbass questions you see here.
i think a good portion of bicycle autists kind of fall under the category of people who modify and track their vehicle and eek out marginal gains in the same way, as well as having a focus on ability. just as well are there those who build and ride cool bikes just because it's fun and the same with cars.
bicycle "enjoyers" maybe, but certainly not bicycle "users" (at least in america)","attachment":null,"posted":1714465614},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994397,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994384
I appreciate your high effort response to what was mainly intended as a shitpost.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714475737788679.jpg","filename":"IMG_5743.jpg"},"posted":1714475737},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994398,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994384
>anyone who has nice things is clueless and can't benefit
These kinds of posts ironically are more of an indictment of what kinds of people the anon associates with rather than a comment on people who have disposable income to spend on things they like. The only people I know IRL who have a pinarello are bike shop workers who probably make 1/4 of what I make with my shitty mail order bike and tech parasite salary, their entire lives revolve around bikes and they buy what makes them happy now while I'm over here worrying about whether I'm saving enough for retirement.","attachment":null,"posted":1714476160},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994405,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What's a good headset upgrade for a mountain bike? Looks like even the $30 ones with sealed bearings are better than the crap they put on the GT Avalanche.","attachment":null,"posted":1714483456},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994343
>neato doesn't work for me since it can be used as a adjective
>>1994344
I guess these are valid. if you say "hey, check out my neat-o stem", people will just think you like it a lot. although Nitto stuff is high quality and desirable, so it sort of works both ways. but nih-toe is a valid English pronunciation and avoids ambiguity.
what Nitto needs is an aggressive ad campaign for "Nitto is neat-o!" but there's no point since their market is so niche","attachment":null,"posted":1714488826},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994377
What's the point of this? As far as I can tell all it is is a sleeve with the same thread as the hanger. Threads wearing out seems like kind of a non issue.","attachment":null,"posted":1714495540},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994462,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"should I get a Diverge E5 or is there something better for the $$$","attachment":null,"posted":1714507772},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994475,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"imagine i have a fixie with cog 17, would it be easier to ride than a bike with cog 17 with a rear derailleur? Since there are gears in the rear derailleur, don't you have to push harder?","attachment":null,"posted":1714510413},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994343
>>1994427
It’s not really pronounced neato anyway. It’s “knee tow”, tow being clipped short, and there’s a beat between knee and tow that you pause for. That’s how you treat double letters in Japanese. Of course this will make you look like a retard if you try it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714510730},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994479,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994475
Theoretically there’s more optimal power transfer in fixed/single speed versus a derailleur system, but all things being the same you won’t notice it.
You may notice the reduction in weight, from no cassette, derailleurs and smaller chain.
Are you converting an existing bike, buying one?","attachment":null,"posted":1714510939},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994398
fair nuff. not going to lie to you though, i don't interact with the real world all that much.","attachment":null,"posted":1714510977},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994481,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994479
yeah i'm considering converting my 7 speeds steel bike from the 80s to a fixie.
>but all things being the same you won’t notice it.
i wonder if theoratically, using a cog with 17 teeths with a derailleur would be equal to say 16 teeths without one, since there are two more gears to push, therefore more teeth to push.","attachment":null,"posted":1714511603},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994482,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994436
I assumed there was a different , thinner standard bolt on some RDs?","attachment":null,"posted":1714512196},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994481
there's almost no resistance on the jockey and idler pullys, though. they spin freely, they're not hooked up to anything","attachment":null,"posted":1714512382},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994489,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994436
probably just for when someone fucks up their threads. drill out existing threads and replace with sleeve.","attachment":null,"posted":1714513621},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994515,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"new:
>>1994513
>>1994513","attachment":null,"posted":1714516359},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994520,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994481
>>1994483
As I said, the difference is theoretical, in that you can measure it but it doesn’t mean much. You have the weight of moving a longer, heavier chain through some derailleurs, likely with some friction cause of the chain angle isn’t perfect like a single speed. I don’t think it’s going to be enough to even feel like a single tooth difference.","attachment":null,"posted":1714516686},{"board":"n","thread":1992357,"pid":1994528,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bikebros how do i understand wich dropper post good for me? I mean: inner part on my bike (which goes inside the frame) 260 mm. Diameter 30.9. But i can’t figure out which dropper to choose, 125 or 150mm; besides, they don’t write everywhere how long the inner part of the seatpost is. I only found information about Fox transfer, it seems to suit my bike. But i'd like to find something cheaper if possible. It's kind of hard for me to figure this out","attachment":null,"posted":1714519016}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1991559,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Thoughts on Comac's C919? Would you fly on a made in China plane?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713235394954106.jpg","filename":"6217fdfad80ca400192d082e.jpg"},"posted":1713235394},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1991561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991559
I'd rather fly in a C919 than a 737 Max","attachment":null,"posted":1713237351},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1991567,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'd rather let someone else do the beta testing.","attachment":null,"posted":1713239369},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1991589,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Rather chink shit than Boeing desu","attachment":null,"posted":1713260268},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1991598,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"An oligopoly of the world market with only two companies will lead to a corrupt structure like Boeing, but only when another option is added and there are three, will the principle of competition among companies be born.","attachment":null,"posted":1713266325},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1991636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991559
>5 aircraft in service
No thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1713283719},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1991643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991559
>Would you fly on a made in China plane?
No because to get anywhere that flies them I'd have to take a Boeing and die immediately after takeoff","attachment":null,"posted":1713287455},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1991649,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991636
I read that individual component failure and assembly fault problems are so pervasive, even the Chinese aviation authority won't allow a C919 to be delivered without individually going through a battery of tests that is almost as extensive as type certification test. The CCP knows that if any C919 has an accident, it will be a deep reputational hole to dig out of, and China may not be able to sell a single commercial airliner to a non-third world country for many decades to come.","attachment":null,"posted":1713290407},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1991673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991561
fpbp","attachment":null,"posted":1713302736},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1991703,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991559
TRULY MOST IMPLESSIVE!
CHYNA NUMBA WAN!","attachment":null,"posted":1713316999},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1992205,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991559
Seems like a copy of the A320ceo. I'd never fly on one, not only because it's a chink deathtrap but because it isn't certified by any country that matters.","attachment":null,"posted":1713556491},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1992228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"engines not even built by them, come back when they can actually make one from scratch instead of just putting prefabricated parts together","attachment":null,"posted":1713568255},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1992230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992228
You could say that about ANY aircraft manufacturer. The Chink 320 uses the LEAP engine, which is a good powerplant by all standards and I probably wouldn’t be upset at the idea of flying in one. That said, no interest in going to the PRC unless they make an autonomous enclave for American huwhites because mainland China under the CCP is Hellish and you’re expected to get by without any labor rights.","attachment":null,"posted":1713568879},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1992315,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"ITT: chink shills","attachment":null,"posted":1713620509},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993051,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993046
Scaling up production of rubber dogshit and commercial aircraft are two different things my guy","attachment":null,"posted":1713964150},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993061,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993052
>fifth gen fighters
China needs starts mass producing meds","attachment":null,"posted":1713967843},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993062
>didn't start development until after the first flight of American gen5s
>first flight after the F22 production run ended
>built entirely of stolen American technology
I'd be embarrassed bragging about the J-20. The only thing it got right is using canards and thrust vectoring together. Congrats on mass producing mediocrity I guess","attachment":null,"posted":1713969168},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993077,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993052
Building ships and planes are different. They have very little experience in designing or building original airframes (not licensed from the USSR) in the commercial sector, they have no domestically-produced commercial jet engines, and no competitive domestically-produced avionics. Yeah they may have made significant progress in the last 40 years in the aviation sector but I would argue very little innovation considering much of the technical advancement is thanks to licensed manufacturing of Russian engines and airframes and copying western manufacturers. Also don’t assume that military advancement will somehow magically transfer to the commercial aviation sector; the two are not the same.","attachment":null,"posted":1713972056},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993080,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993067
Zhang whining about moving goalposts then posts the biggest cope, switches sports, and breaks down into tears.
China numa wan!!!!!!!","attachment":null,"posted":1713972769},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993082,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993067
forgot to mention, China is not the second strongest air force in the world, that title goes to the US Navy rumao","attachment":null,"posted":1713972996},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993092,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993085
so what you're saying is Chinese are incompetent and need computers to do the design work for them?","attachment":null,"posted":1713974197},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993091
China's airforce is rivaled by the aircraft of American boat boys. Embarrassing","attachment":null,"posted":1713974288},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993102,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993096
China wasn't even remotely competitive until computers made their planes instead of the Soviets or God forbid their own nationals.
>>1993096
the gap from #1 to #2 is comically large. I genuinely want to go to war with China for the sole purpose of the embarrassment it would bring to the biggest stain on humanity. They won't touch Taiwan because they know they can't hold their own against the US. You kiddos need to sit down and get back to work making cheap plastic doodads because labor is all your country is good for.","attachment":null,"posted":1713976757},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993108,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993085
I'm not saying they can't build ships man, I don't know why you keep referring to shipbuilding as an analogue for airplane manufacturing. Completely different animals.
>they don't need innovation
They most certainly do need innovation because there is no reason to invest in a domestically-produced Chinese airliner if airlines can purchase or lease western jets at a lower cost. With western jets the infrastructure already exists, and the airline will already be contracting with foreign companies for the engines anyways. If they want to break into the civil aviation market without daddy Xi forcing domestic airlines to purchase/lease domestic airframes they are gonna have to come up with something that offers a competitive advantage. They may be communist on paper but they are capitalists in practice.
>military-civilian advancement is the same
No. For civilian aviation the goal is to maximize profit margin by maximizing aircraft efficiency, safety, system integrity and redundancy, and get those MX intervals as wide as can be. The airline must operate in the black if it is to survive long-term. The more efficient the design the easier it is to meet that profitable threshold. The military cares only about performance, which can come at a significant operating costs (far in advance of the operating margin an airline has to work with). Designing a fighter and an airliner are two way different beasts. Pro-tip: the material sciences and aerodynamic principles are well known and established by this point. It is about designing the airframe and engines to suit the goals of the operator: minimum unit and operating costs with long service intervals and operational reliability. The difference between the military and civilian sector is that in the latter all 3 are required.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713978201608221.jpg","filename":"1448894460282.jpg"},"posted":1713978201},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993145,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993091
>large portion are transports
transport aircraft are vastly more powerful than combat aircraft. logistics win wars, and in terms of logistics the USAF has four times as many C-17's as the rest of the world combined, and vastly C-17's more than any countries fleet of woefully inferior stratetigc airlifters, and a fleet of C-130H's and C-130J's that dwarf any rival. the USAF has more ski equipped boutique C-130's than most countires have tactical airlifters overall.
really the whole
>the two most powerful air forces in the world are the USAF and the USN
quip hardly captures the disparity in power projection between the US and the rest of the world.","attachment":null,"posted":1713991806},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993061
They are also the biggest producer of medicine.","attachment":null,"posted":1714150603},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1993634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993102
You have the freedom to travel. Many do not, maybe appreciate what you have hmm?","attachment":null,"posted":1714194938},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1994372,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The mutt glowies are really seething hard at China, Blinkey boy's visit was that disastrous","attachment":null,"posted":1714460668},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1994374,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991559
did you know japan tried to build their own too but failed?
why china can build commercial jet but japanese can't?
look up mitsubishi spacejet
>development suspended
>As flight testing took longer than expected, the scheduled entry into service was further pushed back until development was first paused amid the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on aviation[2] and subsequently suspended indefinitely.[3]
oh no no no","attachment":null,"posted":1714461066},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1994391,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994374
Yeah and? The financial situations for Mitsubishi and Comac are wildly different. Mitsubishi needed their project to have a chance at making profit at some point to make sense at continuing. The Comac project is part of prestige and preparedness for the Chinese state.
There's no doubt that Mitsubishi could have taken their project to the end and produced a good aircraft. But not while keeping it profitable.
I also have no doubt that Comac can produce a working aircraft. This first one certainly won't be turning a profit for them. But it's both a prestige project and preparedness/anti-sanction safeguard for the future. All the tech needed is relatively simple for it, they just need to get the manufacturing together. And while they produce a lot of chink shit the Chinese can also manufacture pretty much anything they want in high quality.","attachment":null,"posted":1714473007},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1994392,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'll fly on anything if it's not boeing","attachment":null,"posted":1714474731},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1994409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994372
>>1994374
>>1994392
>sinoids need shill threads to convince people who hate Boeing to switch from flying Boeing's death traps to their top of the line domestics
Nanshou si le!!!!!!","attachment":null,"posted":1714484647},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1994414,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994409
Sorry I don't speak anime","attachment":null,"posted":1714484942},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1994417,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"The CCP shill replied almost instantly to my post that happened 3hrs after the last bump hahahaha.
You can try to be a little less obvious Zhang, it would help your cause.
Your aircraft will only be sold to third world countries, at a loss, in USD. The world knows what to expect from China and an airplane built to those expectations will never be anything but a total commercial failure.","attachment":null,"posted":1714485687},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1994418,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994417
I'm singaporean, senator","attachment":null,"posted":1714485752},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1994432,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994417
Sorry but even my normie not online friends are talking about how to avoid flying Boeing","attachment":null,"posted":1714490806},{"board":"n","thread":1991559,"pid":1994612,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994527
Not bothering with US regulations is probably the only reason comac got ahead, really. Look at how many E175-E2s have been sold.","attachment":null,"posted":1714569964}]}
{"title":"FYI","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1992719,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Delta Cycle and Dimension stem raisers are being recalled because they can shift during use and pose a fall hazard.
The recall affects about 500,000 units sold in the U.S., and about 8,510 sold in Canada. The affected Delta Cycle stem raisers are model numbers TD3318B, TD3318S, TD3418B, and TD3418S. The Dimension model numbers are SM1977 and SM1979. All of the models were sold in black and silver and measure between 5 and 7 inches high.
Consumers should stop using the recalled models and contact Delta Cycle to schedule a free repair at an independent bike dealer. Delta Cycle can be reached at 800-474-6615 from 9 a.m.-5 p.m. Monday through Friday; by email or online.
No injuries have been reported, but there has been one report of a stem riser shifting during use. The stem risers were sold at REI and local bicycle stores nationwide and online at designbydelta.com and Amazon.com from January 1998 through January 2024 for about $46","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713810459661825.png","filename":"td3418b-or-sm1979.png"},"posted":1713810459},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1992721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">stem riser/extender
>adjustable stem
>handlebar extender
Crap for stupid people that want to lose their teeth","attachment":null,"posted":1713811214},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1992826,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992721
I think most cyclists (read normies) prefer an upright position and the industry doesn't provide them with enough options.","attachment":null,"posted":1713868820},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1992827,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992826
Oh hi grant, I know this won't break through your little self delusion bubble but the most popular bikes on the market cost like $500 and are about as upright as you can get short of just walking. The conspiracy to make everyone shove a dildo up his ass and wear a wetsuit and bend over on aero bars only exists in your head and nobody needs to buy your $5000 clone of a shitty d*tch bike if they want to be slow.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713869675082516.jpg","filename":"two-riders-on-trek-hybrid-bicycles-in-front-of-painted-mural-wall.jpg"},"posted":1713869675},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1992828,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992827
They also feel like absolute shit to ride.","attachment":null,"posted":1713870174},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1992833,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992827
You've clearly not met anyone who's bought a road bike, got a fit, went on a single club ride then found that they zero flexibility from a life of being a cager. This is the kind of shit that caters to that crowd. Plus old men who still want to ride the same bike they got in the 90s.","attachment":null,"posted":1713872345},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1992834,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992833
I don't think that's a statistically relevant problem, but let's suppose it was, if some 70 year old MAGA boomer chose to walk past the rows and rows of upright bitch bikes and went straight for the TT bike with the Chris Boardman position and hurt his back that's his problem, "the industry" didn't force him to do that, he did that to himself","attachment":null,"posted":1713872731},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1992836,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Sometimes I think these threads are made by a single person arguing between their personalities. No one cares about none of the crap you described.","attachment":null,"posted":1713873313},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1992840,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992827
rent free™ and schizoposting™","attachment":null,"posted":1713876089},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1993228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992836
What are you on about?? Op made this thread to alert fellow cyclists about a recall. Why is that somehow connected to the schizo argument in your head?","attachment":null,"posted":1714015378},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1995126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992719
what does this part do on a bike?","attachment":null,"posted":1714888883},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1995145,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995126
It raises the steerer tube. If you cut it off too low, you can replace the stack and stem with this thing, and get the extra height back. One of the retarded workarounds created since the bike industry ditched the superior threaded system.","attachment":null,"posted":1714905140},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1995150,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995145
>If you cut it off too low, you can replace the stack and stem with this thing, and get the extra height back.
I don't think there is a single person that uses a stem raiser for that reason. This shit is for trekking retards that want to have their bars on eye level and other retards that refuse to ride a bike in their size","attachment":null,"posted":1714908401},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1995151,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992719
>No injuries have been reported, but there has been one report of a stem riser shifting during use.
so non issue unless you are a retard.","attachment":null,"posted":1714910727},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1995631,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995145
>>1995150
Is there any reason you would choose this monstrosity over just a riser stem except for aesthetics?
Seems like everyone is afraid of these but they used to be norm on old MTB","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715115890734800.jpg","filename":"31BklOrL14L._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg"},"posted":1715115890},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1995640,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995631
What you don't realize is they are using that AND a riser stem.","attachment":null,"posted":1715116638},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1995642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995640
With these bars","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715117545082346.jpg","filename":"180799-largest_Specialized-Hover-riser-drop-bar-vs-standard-drop-bar.jpg"},"posted":1715117545},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1995643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995642
No, with THESE bars","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715117924832570.jpg","filename":"rip.jpg"},"posted":1715117924},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1995679,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992827
>the most popular bikes on the market cost like $500 and are about as upright as you can get short of just walking.
The most popular bikes on the market are e-bikes and many of them come in 3 sizes only, especially step throughs, which make a lot of sense for rear loading or older riders. I mostly see stem risers used by 6' + people who are adapting undersized large frames to fit them.
At 6'2 i've always struggled to even get bars at saddle height, which is a reasonable normal.
It's really just a tall person problem and you don't get it because you're not tall.","attachment":null,"posted":1715132101},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1995687,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995679
tall and severely inflexible, not exactly a widespread problem","attachment":null,"posted":1715133532},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1996191,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995679
This.
The average "cyclist" and his 5'4 body have no clue how small bicycles frames are.
AND NOW THEY HAVE THE AUDACITY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT 175mm CRANKARMS AND WANT THEM PHASEOUT.
FUCK YOU, 175mm is the ONLY thing in the bicycle industry that is not designed for 158cm tall riders.","attachment":null,"posted":1715369985},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1996200,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996191
I dno't care about your ebike kvetching but I do agree we need to ban cranks over 170mm or at least require a licensing system where the police can break into your home at any time with no warning to confirm you aren't attempting to put them on a non-circus clown bike","attachment":null,"posted":1715372203},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1996214,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995679
>>1996191
Any 700c bike (so almost all modern bikes) is designed first for people around 175 to 190 cm. Because that tire size naturally makes for bikes to that demographic. Anything below 170 cm and you'll get into serious trouble on where the fuck are you going to fit the big ass wheels in such a small frame and it will change the handling. Anything bigger just looks goofy but is usually perfectly rideable with similar geometry.
Also if you're struggling with getting the handlebars high enough you're not in a position to use 175 mm cranks. You simply do not have the flexibility and hip mobility for it. Smaller cranks helps you inflexible fuckers because your hip angle will stay more open. Which is a major limiter for all the inflexible people.","attachment":null,"posted":1715375815},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1996227,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996214
long cranks are put on bikes for the same reason knobbies are put on bikes that will never be taken off road. regardless of whether it's the right choice for the user, it helps the sales process move along
we all know why normies want knobbies for their commuters. in the case of cranks, long cranks make otherwise lackluster bikes feel more responsive/light, because of the extra leverage on the downstroke. if it fucks up your pedal stroke and makes it uneven, well hey, it must be because the bike is so fast, normally you're on something slower","attachment":null,"posted":1715379870},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1996294,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996214
>175 to 190 cm
i have no idea what you are talking about. the bike industry has startled around 2015 to make MTB bike frames with alright proportions for people above 6'1.
if you think a 700c wheel is a big wheel you have never seen a size 60 road bike and how minuscule 700c wheels are.
Fun fact, the extremely rare xl 80s and 90s MTB frames still suffer the same issue of a low stack for the reach they have. That's why so many high reise handlebars are bought to people who restore them.
>flexibility
You are clueless.","attachment":null,"posted":1715404861},{"board":"n","thread":1992719,"pid":1996310,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996294
2015 is also around when MTBs started to use bigger 700c wheels. And if you can read you'd notice that I said they do look goofy on bigger bikes because the proportions are wrong. But they're still rideable because while the proportions are wrong they don't have to compromise on geometry nearly as much as the smaller bikes.
>muh 80s and 90s MTBs
Oh I thought we're talking about bikes that have been relevant in the last decade.","attachment":null,"posted":1715416407}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990691,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Any tips for sneaking a lil hotheaf on a domestic flight?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712748719359194.jpg","filename":"3198624E-C54D-458C-BB35B9DECED8F27D_source.jpg"},"posted":1712748719},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I can smell it from here bruh","attachment":null,"posted":1712749826},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990755,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990691
>Vacuum seal a couple of joints
>clean vacuum plastic bag exterior thoroughly with isopropyl alcohol after you’ve cleaned your hands thoroughly with dish soap and isopropyl
>put in sock on the soles of your feet
>request TSA opt out instead for pat down
>?????
>profit","attachment":null,"posted":1712775050},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990757,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990691
Go be a pothead somewhere other than my office","attachment":null,"posted":1712775528},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990691
grind to dust compress and prison pocket is failsafe, everything else bears risk the more you try to hide it the more trouble you get into","attachment":null,"posted":1712777190},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990771,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My friend flew with flower in an m&Ms tube. Definitely they could see it on the machine, but they didn't give a fuck. NY
try a vape pen, they never give a shit about those.","attachment":null,"posted":1712779768},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990792,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990771
They don't give a fuck in Cali either.
>>1990691
Put it in your girl's vag. Does it have to be flower? FPSRussia flew with a load of edibles by finding the regular candies that looked most like them.","attachment":null,"posted":1712786170},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990792
>>1990691
Edibles decrease the risk a lot, but there was a case in my state where police stopped someone with edibles and the charges they had the entire weight of the product as if it was weight of dried flower, just like how if they pull up plants, they include as much dirt as possible in the weight of weed. So they had weed drinks with maybe 10mg THC per bottle, but that counted as >3/4 of a pound because of the weight of carbonated water and the bottle. Cops, man.","attachment":null,"posted":1712786739},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990822,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I fly with edibles all the time, but I only travel between states where it's legal. I keep it in my carry-on because if the plane diverts to a shit hole state, I can just chuck it in the trash before going through security again","attachment":null,"posted":1712798467},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990825,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990691
They always check your ass but never your urethra, it's the perfect size for a blunt","attachment":null,"posted":1712799790},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1990826,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990691
If I catch you combusting something on my flight I'm letting the flight attendants know. Fire and planes don't mix. Don't be a degenerate and take an edible like a normal person if you're such a pothead you can't go 6 hours without getting high. I didn't bring any on my recent trip and just had a nice good high when I enjoyed the next time at home.","attachment":null,"posted":1712800916},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1991007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You ever just pocket a few joints before flying halfway across the planet just to see what happens?
Nothing. Nothing happens.","attachment":null,"posted":1712895021},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1991087,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991007
Unless you get caught, then a lot of things happen.","attachment":null,"posted":1712944696},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1991089,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991087
Nobody cares in civilized countries. But I suppose you live in one of those places where they throw you in a dungeon for life for walking through the same room as a poppy seed muffin","attachment":null,"posted":1712944843},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1991090,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991089
I'm a leaf so its completely legal here, but flying halfway across the planet implies you might be going to a shithole country.
Even closer to home, getting caught with weed crossing the border into the states will get you a lifetime ban from the US.","attachment":null,"posted":1712944953},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1991091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991090
importing illegal substances into a foreign country gets you banned from said country, who would have thought?>>1990691
tsa doesn't care about drugs. they will care about anything that can start a fire","attachment":null,"posted":1712945522},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1991097,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991091
I would have, but apparently you didn't know. >>1991089","attachment":null,"posted":1712949775},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1991101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990826
I don't plan to smoke it in the plane itself retard","attachment":null,"posted":1712952913},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1991104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990826
>>1991101","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712954882759057.jpg","filename":"654465354.jpg"},"posted":1712954882},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1992050,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990822
>but I only travel between states where it's legal
You could wait until you land in that legal destination and then go to a legal shop and buy some. Legally.
But I guess some people can't bear to be far from their stash. But not addicted. Nope.","attachment":null,"posted":1713493884},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1992053,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990826
>Fire and planes don't mix.
You used to be able to smoke on planes dumbshit","attachment":null,"posted":1713494415},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1992054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992050
Literally every single product works a little bit differently, I'm not going to experiment with some random garbage that has a totally different concentration when I can just toss a pack of gummies that I'm familiar with into my bag along with my toothpaste and everything else I'd normally use in a day","attachment":null,"posted":1713494581},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1992086,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992053
until realized a sky fire is a bad af idea","attachment":null,"posted":1713507511},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1992110,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1991087
They’d probably just ask you to chuck it or give you a ticket honestly","attachment":null,"posted":1713519969},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1992112,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992054
>no no you don't get it i MUST take my own weed to travel or else i get hecking anxious
The absolute state of "not addicted" potheads who "don't really need" to get high","attachment":null,"posted":1713520852},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1992119,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992112
Who said I'm not addicted? I have to rob white grannies every day for my reefer money. If I can't inject an eight ball of primo mexican cartel marihuana every morning I will literally kill someone.","attachment":null,"posted":1713523879},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1992875,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992110
On an international flight like the guy i was replying to said? No fucking way, smuggling drugs across borders is a big deal.","attachment":null,"posted":1713890332},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1994005,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992054
>Literally every single product works a little bit differently, I'm not going to experiment with some random garbage
I know what you're saying. We have Kidd Valley hamburgers here. If I have to travel somewhere with In-N-Out burger joints, I go into withdrawal.","attachment":null,"posted":1714351429},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996175,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990691
Don't. Just don't. Your best case scenario (unlikely), you get high, which you could do before entering the airport. The other scenario, you get caught in security, they slap the book at you, try to claim you're smuggling (technically you are) and then you wind up in butt rape jail.
Do you want to wind up in butt rape jail?","attachment":null,"posted":1715357601},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996483,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990691
Go to Signapore","attachment":null,"posted":1715532362},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996494,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992119
ok addict","attachment":null,"posted":1715536827},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996520,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990822
Airports are federal property, even flying it between legal states is still a felony. You can and likely will go to pound me in the ass prison for violating drug trafficking laws.
>>1992053
Yes and it caused plane crashes and was a maintenance nightmare because cigarette smoke gets into EVERYTHING. Not to mention making everyone breathe in recirculated smoke whether they wanted to or not was probably incredibly unhealthy. There's a reason it's banned.","attachment":null,"posted":1715548615},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996541,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996520
What a drama queen. Like you're not committing a felony multiple times a day without realizing it. I forgot where I read this but like it turns out it's physically impossible to consume lobster meat without technically being in violation of federal law.
Unless you're flying with like a kilo of shatter and your plane diverts to miami or some other shit hole state nothing will happen, everyone flies with mj products, it's a non-issue.","attachment":null,"posted":1715556885},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996542,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996541
Okay but there's no feds sitting at the fucking Lobster Shack looking for people violating whatever obscure lobster law you're quoting to make your asinine comparison. Meanwhile at the airport you literally have to make it through a literal army of ball grabbing petty tyrants looking for any excuse to justify their existence. If you can't see the difference you're a retard. Which is probably true because you're too much of a pot addict to go a couple hours without it or just get high before you leave home","attachment":null,"posted":1715557794},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996543,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996542
The TSA's job is to find box cutters and underwear bombs not THC gummies. If they stopped everyone who brought a pack of gummies in their carry on they'd have to arrest like half the passengers, I know you never leave your basement but they sell this shit in supermarkets now, it's a non-issue. This isn't an opinion, do some basic research on the topic, TSA officials are on record saying this. The only time you're at risk is going through security in a state where it's still severely illegal and there's local cops standing around with the TSA agents. CPD/NYPD/PAPD? Not an issue.","attachment":null,"posted":1715558102},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996543
>I know you never leave your basement but they sell this shit in supermarkets now
Lol what the fuck state do you live in where you can buy weed in the supermarkets","attachment":null,"posted":1715558804},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996548
Not where I live, here I have to go to a special state licensed place, but I was in minnesota after they legalized it and there was some poncy store near downtown that had it by the register, apparently the rules are pretty loose there. I guess it was more like a deli or something, not a full whole foods kind of thing, but still. A place whose main thing was food, for yuppies, and they were openly selling edible.","attachment":null,"posted":1715559072},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996551,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996550
>>1996548
Here, found this on reddit. Not the shop I went to (that one was considerably more posh and only sold like, quail eggs and duck legs, not pleb stuff like chicken and beef). But it's basically less illegal than cough syrup.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715559513650947.jpg","filename":"bjwZIoe.jpg"},"posted":1715559513},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996587,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990691
Mail it to your destination the day before you leave. Have it waiting at your hotel.","attachment":null,"posted":1715580123},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996596,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996587
Also illegal lol, stoners are dumb","attachment":null,"posted":1715583780},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996596
obviously its illegal, but the odds of getting caught are near zero.","attachment":null,"posted":1715613856},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996677,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996587
Yeah nah that's an incredibly terrible idea since there actually are inspectors who look for drugs in the mail and are law enforcement officers, unlike the TSA which literally does not care and does not have the power to arrest you","attachment":null,"posted":1715614078},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996712,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990691
Was considering doing this, but I'm flying international and UK customs are significantly more competent than the TSA, so I go without for two weeks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715625050},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996677
This unironically, postal inspectors do not fuck around. You don't want to end up on the wrong side of these guys.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715634224267984.jpg","filename":"us-postal-inspectors-on-protection-duty_14382474632_o[1].jpg"},"posted":1715634224},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996896,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990691
Be Canadian","attachment":null,"posted":1715717544},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996897,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996677
>>1996746
How do you think dark net markets works.
Just vacuum seal it, No one's looking at your domestic packages","attachment":null,"posted":1715717657},{"board":"n","thread":1990691,"pid":1996900,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996897
You mean those electronic markets where stupid people get rounded up by the hundreds every time a postal inspector gets bored, because dumbasses think "I don't understand this technology, therefore nobody understands this technology"?
You SURE you wanna use that example?
Yeah I think I'll just fly with my completely legal gummies instead of uploading a permanent electronic receipt of myself buying drugs that gets backed up to millions of servers simultaneously and forever but you do you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715718128}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992085,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">This is a
>Red Line train to
>Shady Grove","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713504940260769.jpg","filename":"title_world_us_washdc_red[1].jpg"},"posted":1713504940},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992125,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992085
>[indistinct mumbling through a blown-out speaker]","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713525808754032.jpg","filename":"np_file_230954.jpg"},"posted":1713525808},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992085
>ancient TTS system (https://www.bart.gov/sites/default/files/docs/DSSAudioDemo.wav)
>the door closing beeps
>horrible screeching around any corner
SOVL","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713542776006704.jpg","filename":"2560px-BART_A_car_at_16th_Street_Mission_station%2C_January_2016.jpg"},"posted":1713542776},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992174,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992125
but r188s have automated announcements...","attachment":null,"posted":1713546962},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992180,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992085
As someone who lives a few blocks from Shady Grove station, get off my fuckin lawn.","attachment":null,"posted":1713548727},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992203,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992166
There's one thing I don't miss about BART though
>medical emergency at Embarcadero/West Oakland","attachment":null,"posted":1713556141},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992210,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992203
I just hope all the new fare gates keep out the "people temporarily experiencing housing insecurity" and junkies so there will be fewer stops/skipped stations","attachment":null,"posted":1713563198},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992212,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992166
>computer faggots think they know better than centuries of rail experience and design
They get what they deserve.","attachment":null,"posted":1713563661},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992213,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992210
>fare gates
Retards will see the word homelessness, an issue with HOME in the name, and then look for any solution besides building more homes","attachment":null,"posted":1713564045},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992213
kill yourself, junkie","attachment":null,"posted":1713564961},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992219,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992216
>Can only resort to ad hom
Ok","attachment":null,"posted":1713565755},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992233,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992213
Oh I agree it's fucking criminal that faux progressives like peskin can make the building process so toxic that building housing is fucking impossible. However, there is clearly a segment of the homeless that just want to live on the street and get high, even if we had a functional housing market we would still need ways to keep antisocial people off bart","attachment":null,"posted":1713571227},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992266,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992085
>Heavy Anglo accent
SLATER... AND... KENT
>DING
>Heavy French accent
Slateur... ET... KENTE","attachment":null,"posted":1713584396},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992267,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992266
>Forgot the pic","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713584465933108.png","filename":"364536345.png"},"posted":1713584465},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992276,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992213
If you build homes for the average BART hobo, they will just tear out the pipes and wiring and sell them so they can keep getting high on the street. For some people the only way to help them is through force, and if that doesn't work the best solution is a final one.","attachment":null,"posted":1713586790},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992277,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992276
Oh and fentanyl dealers plus the bankers who launder their money should be flayed alive and left on screaming display on Market St, that would also help resolve the problem.","attachment":null,"posted":1713586983},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1992282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992233
Exactly. Can't believe people still vote for these dipshits thinking that they'll solve the housing problem.","attachment":null,"posted":1713588234},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1994748,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">operator is high
>"red line train, red line train, thanks for boarding, five points next station"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714663442476428.jpg","filename":"IMG_4192.jpg"},"posted":1714663442},{"board":"n","thread":1992085,"pid":1994802,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992085
>Shady Grove
that's when you know not to relax","attachment":null,"posted":1714691054}]}
{"title":"Reading at Sea","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1992964,"pid":1992964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"For those who are sailors, what sorts of books to you take to read while underway?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713924388045083.png","filename":"2fbfe5ee12f2b9e427800f37804ca0ed.png"},"posted":1713924388},{"board":"n","thread":1992964,"pid":1994538,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992964
Read "the eduction of a wandering man" by Louis L'amour. Describes his early life as a vagabond, sailor, surveyor, freight hopper. He lists all the books he can remember from that time. Some interesting reads in there, the book itself isn't bad either.","attachment":null,"posted":1714523896},{"board":"n","thread":1992964,"pid":1994549,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have a 2TB SSD filled with nothing but hardcore gay porn","attachment":null,"posted":1714527328},{"board":"n","thread":1992964,"pid":1994550,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994538
based
annas archive is a good resource for books","attachment":null,"posted":1714527474},{"board":"n","thread":1992964,"pid":1994556,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992964
you don't look like that THOUGH","attachment":null,"posted":1714528649}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1993642,"pid":1993642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I’m no airbus fanboy but has the A350 pretty much totally dethroned Boeing’s long haul offerings at this point? It’s reputation is so good that it has had a total hull loss and people are saying they’d fly on one again in a heartbeat","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714204355537637.jpg","filename":"18B34924-2626-4EB9-85DA-762E785C2FB2.jpg"},"posted":1714204355},{"board":"n","thread":1993642,"pid":1993661,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993642
Twinjets are boring","attachment":null,"posted":1714218076},{"board":"n","thread":1993642,"pid":1994199,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993661
fpbp
Give me an a340neo","attachment":null,"posted":1714398495},{"board":"n","thread":1993642,"pid":1994362,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"777X is just a 30 year old plane with new wings and engines, but 350 is designed with 21st century technology
If you want to use PC from the 90's or Core i7 PC, which would you rather use?","attachment":null,"posted":1714452902},{"board":"n","thread":1993642,"pid":1994764,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994362
In theory the 777X is not a bad plane, it could be great in fact. The original version of the plane was fantastic at its introduction. A few significant upgrades is honestly all that's needed for it to stay competitive, but the flying public doesn't really have faith in Boeing to deliver a quality aircraft. Deservedly so, this due almost entirely to all the bad press Boeing has earned itself. The airlines as well don't have infinite patience either as its languishes in production/certification hell. It's difficult to replace a 777 with an A350 especially with the new variant's even more impressive capacity but it is an option.
Age isn't such clear cut simple factor to consider - the A320 is just as old as the 777 and its neo is the belle of the ball when it comes to orders.
While I just defended the 777, I like the A350. I like big twins and I cannot I lie. The A350 is one of the best planes flying today alongside the A220 but unlike the A220 it doesn't have as unique a character to it. At least it doesn't require as frequent engine maintenance however.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714668169234080.jpg","filename":"IMG_4561.jpg"},"posted":1714668169}]}
{"title":"Would you?","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1993650,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"American Express has released the latest limited edition Boeing 747 Delta SkyMiles Reserve Cards. These are metal cards from metal from rom two Delta 747 planes that were retired in 2017 after more than 27 years of service. The cards are available to Delta SkyMiles® Reserve and Reserve Business Card Members until June 5, 2024 (while supplies last).","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714211126393282.png","filename":"american-express-delta-reserve.png"},"posted":1714211126},{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1993651,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993650
Embarrassing + tourist trap","attachment":null,"posted":1714213188},{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1993654,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">metal cards
So they are supplying in-flight patch kits to the passengers now?","attachment":null,"posted":1714216230},{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1993655,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why buy decade-old Boeing metal when fresh Boeing parts fall from the sky for free every week nowadays?","attachment":null,"posted":1714216342},{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1994027,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">annual card fee is $650
I think I'll just splurge at Planetags, thanks.","attachment":null,"posted":1714353040},{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1994091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993650
>t.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714362565228436.jpg","filename":"file.jpg"},"posted":1714362565},{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1994094,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993650
Already got the old version. Not actually a bad deal despite the annual fee bump they just did, since each anniversary you get a companion ticket good for any roundtrip in the US including Hawaii/Alaska, the Caribbean, and Central America.","attachment":null,"posted":1714365081},{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1994180,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994094
You forgot to say the point of the the Reserve card is that the companion ticket is good for (domestic) First Class, whereas the lower priced Platinum is only good for some fare classes of Economy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714391367},{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1994237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994180
Not domestic only. It was changed earlier this year:
>https://www.americanexpress.com/us/credit-cards/card/delta-skymiles-reserve-american-express-card/
>Enjoy a Companion Certificate on First Class, Delta Comfort+®, or Main Cabin domestic, Caribbean, or Central American roundtrip flights each year after renewal of your Card.*‡
You are correct that Platinum is economy only for the companion cert. It's a better deal if you don't want Skyclub access, but if you want Skyclub access as well the Reserve is what you want.","attachment":null,"posted":1714410113},{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1995146,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994237
That's pretty based. It's just that Delta's devaluation of skypesos is just so over the top it's insanity when trying redeem for anything lie-flat","attachment":null,"posted":1714906508},{"board":"n","thread":1993650,"pid":1995168,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995146
Yeah, skymiles are basically tied to a 1.2-1.5 cent cash valuation at this point. If you want to ride up front on a SkyTeam carrier, Virgin Atlantic is pretty much your best option. Fortunately they partner with all the major credit card rewards (CapitalOne, Chase, Amex, Citi), so easy to earn their miles.","attachment":null,"posted":1714919171}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is there anything more soulful than taking a Greyhound bus from coast to coast?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714015914907022.jpg","filename":"Greyhound-1.jpg"},"posted":1714015914},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993254,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Probably a train.
There's a dozen video max about this on youtube. even from /our/ guy Miles in transit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTpt4tMnDT0&t=5
Everyone tries to keep a smile but this is a really taking way to travel. You can do this in good spirit just once a year in my opinion. I personally get really nauseated.
The funniest vids though are from brits Noel Phillips and the one that did it first Zac Alsop.
Anyway I think there are major improvements since flixbus bought greyhound?","attachment":null,"posted":1714029737},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993255,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993231
Yes, probably anything.
If you watch people attempt this, it's:
>constant delays
>constant cancellations
>missing connections
>dealing with uppity niggers / non-existent customer service
>Full of smelly meth heads
>No toilets / toilets caked in shit and period blood
>The price of a ticket can match air fare
Fuck. No.","attachment":null,"posted":1714030876},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993256,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993231
Yeah, driving from coast to coast in a classic car.","attachment":null,"posted":1714031565},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993276,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is greyhound actually better than the generic $10 intercity buses? I've only taken the $10 buses and they are HORRIBLE, I was trapped in a box with obese freaks covered in their own piss and shit, absolute nightmare scenario. never doing that again, amtrak is only like $50 more and it's so worth it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714048980},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993254
God I wish I was in a relationship like that. They seem so happy together.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714052315109206.png","filename":"1693409233706774.png"},"posted":1714052315},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993286,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993254
is this the replacement for greg and vicki?","attachment":null,"posted":1714056215},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993288,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"walking","attachment":null,"posted":1714057316},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993290,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993231
>>1993256
Riding coast to coast on a motorcycle","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714057634371685.jpg","filename":"motorcycle.jpg"},"posted":1714057634},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993502,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993255
reported for racism","attachment":null,"posted":1714115276},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993752,"name":"Die4Israel","msg":">>1993231
It's was nice back in the day. Too many wild "Youths" aboard today.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714254044972161.jpg","filename":"greyhound-480x394.jpg"},"posted":1714254044},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1993992,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993231
Imagine the smell.","attachment":null,"posted":1714350529},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1994030,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Yea me banging your mom","attachment":null,"posted":1714353345},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1994531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993231
>sovl is when you spend a week in a smelly bus with an overworked driver about to steer you into certain death and 20 druggies that take every coach stop to smoke crack","attachment":null,"posted":1714520932},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1994751,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993255
Also
>Surly drivers
>Non-existant bus maintenance
>FlixBus, their new owner, is getting rid of actual stations, so you get to wait for your late connection with all your baggage at 3 am in a random parking lot","attachment":null,"posted":1714664099},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1994864,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Amtrak, hands down. It's not even a close contest.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714710284359898.jpg","filename":"2522117358_9c89517f6f_b[1].jpg"},"posted":1714710284},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1994893,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993231
Yep there is.
>steals your zoomette gf
>nothing personal kiddo","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714735388190693.jpg","filename":"Harley-rider-stereotype.jpg"},"posted":1714735388},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1995838,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"this is now /ldbtg/ long distance bus travel general
https://archive.is/02twZ
look at this, motion-cancelling seats, nice","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715191386933532.png","filename":"954a469f5339e93392c1b9339f2dbc3b.png"},"posted":1715191386},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996132,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I would love to try a trip on this bus.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715343006766281.jpg","filename":"buses-and-limousines-crossed-in-pakistan-a-luxurious-three-decker-bus.jpg"},"posted":1715343006},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996218,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996132
saw that too, it's some pakistani bus right... where do they put the luggage then","attachment":null,"posted":1715377047},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996537,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993231
when i hear greyhound bus i think of that beheading","attachment":null,"posted":1715554815},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996545,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993254
Yes literally anything else","attachment":null,"posted":1715558300},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996555,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993752
>It's midnight at the depot
>And I drag my bags in line.
>Travelin' light, I got to go
>But the bus won't be on time.
>Everybody's looking half alive.
>Later on the bus arrives.
>They punch my ticket
>I find a seat
>And we move out past the lights.
>Come on Driver, where's the heat?
>It's cold out in the night.
>I keep telling to myself that I don't care.
>Come tomorrow, I'll be there.
>Take the Greyhound.
>It's a dog of a way to get around.
>Take the Greyhound.
>It's a dog gone easy way to get you down.
>c.1972
It was never good","attachment":null,"posted":1715564370},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996585,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993231
I think for a foreigner taking the train from LA to NYC on amtrak provides a great view of America, especially the sw chief (kc to la)","attachment":null,"posted":1715579779},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996668,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993290
Hell, even hitchhiking is more soulful.","attachment":null,"posted":1715611612},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996670,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993231
Id rather just drive muh pickup, nice and quiet with my music and audiobooks for a so.id 30-40 hour drive.","attachment":null,"posted":1715611959},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996744,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996670
Driving yourself is cucked behavior.","attachment":null,"posted":1715633996},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996764,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996744
Choosing your own timeline is cucked behavior?","attachment":null,"posted":1715643384},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996744
Forcing yourself to do long boring hours of nothing but staring at the road when you could be relaxing on a train, having a beer, reading a book, working on your laptop, playing a game etc. I know what I'd rather do. Cars are fine I guess in some situations for like, last mile travel but for long distance travel they're dreadful.","attachment":null,"posted":1715645730},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996774,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993231
I took one from Oakland to Ashland Oregon as a kid. that bathroom smell. its weird. the whole trip. some weird chemical smell you never smell anywhere else. cept maybe a portapotty. grape scented and poo
why ? its cheaper or as cheap to fly. fucking old women and weirdos ride the bus","attachment":null,"posted":1715647743},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996844,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996774
>some weird chemical smell you never smell anywhere else. cept maybe a portapotty. grape scented and poo
I know precisely what smell you're talking about and I've never been on a greyhound, but you've just ensured I never will be either.","attachment":null,"posted":1715690670},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996877,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996744
>Driving yourself is cucked behavior.
>stop whenever you want
>stop wherever you want
>drive how fast you want
vs
>on a shitty slow bus smelling strangers farts
You literally don't know definitions of the words you use","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715708892539444.jpg","filename":"zzz.jpg"},"posted":1715708892},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996917,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996877
Buses suck, I agree with you on that, but trains and planes are comfy. I love traveling on both of them even despite the TSA nightmare. Getting to sit back and relax and do whatever you want and eat whenever you choose to rather than waiting for the next truck stop 50 miles away is so convenient. You can even shop while you wait to board. It's very leisurely.","attachment":null,"posted":1715721984},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996917
is anyone around here old enough to remember flying without security checks? how was it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715723630},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996925,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996744
this
>>1996764
there's always taxi/uber, that's what the real upper-class that live in the tall towers in downtown use.","attachment":null,"posted":1715723773},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996935,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996923
I am old enough to have flown before 9/11 but I don't really remember it very well because I was only 9 when it happened.","attachment":null,"posted":1715725299},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996941,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996923
Flew cross country when I was 10, summer '00. It was fucking awesome from what I remember being a kid, the flight attendants loved me and I got a tour of a 742 that I'll remember for life.
Spent a lot of time at airports through the 90s, dad travelled for business and grandma was a snowbird. Waiting at the gate, watching the plane arrive, and greeting whoever we were picking up right off the jetway are fond memories.","attachment":null,"posted":1715727836},{"board":"n","thread":1993231,"pid":1996960,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996923
your whole family could go to the gate with you and hang out while you waited to board was the best thing other than not getting anally probed by TSA","attachment":null,"posted":1715733017}]}
{"title":"This Jetliner is a Newly University Graduate","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1993806,"pid":1993806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Something nice to him.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714276567350720.png","filename":"1.-Catfish-1000pxl[1].png"},"posted":1714276567},{"board":"n","thread":1993806,"pid":1993807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993806
fucking hell kill me","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714277842456586.png","filename":"face.png"},"posted":1714277842},{"board":"n","thread":1993806,"pid":1993898,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993807
Hahahah
It's ok I see it too","attachment":null,"posted":1714322891},{"board":"n","thread":1993806,"pid":1995091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993806
F22 in mufti iirc.","attachment":null,"posted":1714864504},{"board":"n","thread":1993806,"pid":1995092,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Sh1t like that is normal in some places.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714864779235318.jpg","filename":"boeing.jpg"},"posted":1714864779},{"board":"n","thread":1993806,"pid":1995093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995092
>Sh1t
Are you for fucking real dude","attachment":null,"posted":1714864855},{"board":"n","thread":1993806,"pid":1995105,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995092
That poor jetliner, it has a prolapsed anus and a hemorrhoid.","attachment":null,"posted":1714875872}]}
{"title":"New Dubai Airport","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1993833,"pid":1993833,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Al Maktoum International Airport, commencing construction of the building at a cost of AED 128 billion
>over 400 gates
>capacity for 260m passengers a year
>5 terminals
>5 times the size of the current airport
>DXB will transfer all operations here in '10 years time'
what do we think lads","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714298054902136.jpg","filename":"GMPEbLxWwAAbuJA.jpg"},"posted":1714298054},{"board":"n","thread":1993833,"pid":1993858,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is this really necessary? Are DXB and SHJ both at capacity? Not to mention AUH is like an hour away.","attachment":null,"posted":1714309032},{"board":"n","thread":1993833,"pid":1993867,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Isn't DWC already in operation?
For some reason many flights to Russia leave from there, requiring a landside transfer from DXB to DWC.","attachment":null,"posted":1714310380},{"board":"n","thread":1993833,"pid":1993961,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993833
It will be abandoned by the end of the century anyway. The Arabian Gulf will become too hot for anyone to live in.","attachment":null,"posted":1714341670},{"board":"n","thread":1993833,"pid":1994385,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993833
Can't wait for them to still be a parking lot for planes because airspace is at a premium.","attachment":null,"posted":1714466108},{"board":"n","thread":1993833,"pid":1994438,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993833
>400 gates
>260m ppl/yr
they're going to need an actual metro system to get around the airport","attachment":null,"posted":1714495660}]}
{"title":"Why Are Rail Companies Such Jerks?","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1993908,"pid":1993908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"If I want to train-hop from Temiskaming Shores to Moosonee or Rouyn-Noranda, I shouldn't be HARRASSED by security and BOPPED on my FUCKING CAP for doing so. Even if I toss the security a twenty for my fare they still accost me. Why are they such assholes? Why am I not allowed to start the locomotive whilst the engineer is checking his brakes? I was so close to moving. This isn't FAIR! It's COLD OUT HERE.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714326388020321.jpg","filename":"2410.1551886797.jpg"},"posted":1714326388},{"board":"n","thread":1993908,"pid":1993971,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I was about to say "a thread died for this" but on this dead board it's probably for the better","attachment":null,"posted":1714344060},{"board":"n","thread":1993908,"pid":1993977,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993971
Indeed a thread died for this. It's a serious and a NUISANCE. I got treated worse than I did on the Keewatin Railway to the pit of PUKATAWAGAN!","attachment":null,"posted":1714345941},{"board":"n","thread":1993908,"pid":1994324,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993977
What has you freight hopping across the north?","attachment":null,"posted":1714438566},{"board":"n","thread":1993908,"pid":1994326,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993908
jewwww white Chinese, the shit hole racist pedo American white pigs, experience Pearl Harbor again and be slaughtered and exterminated!
from japan","attachment":null,"posted":1714439891},{"board":"n","thread":1993908,"pid":1994332,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994326
Haha got em
Bold choice for a jap to bring up allegations of pedophilia though","attachment":null,"posted":1714440771},{"board":"n","thread":1993908,"pid":1994408,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994326
>korean falseflag","attachment":null,"posted":1714484629},{"board":"n","thread":1993908,"pid":1994422,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994324
To get to places I need to without the government taking any single dime from me.","attachment":null,"posted":1714487065},{"board":"n","thread":1993908,"pid":1997566,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993908
What time train eh?","attachment":null,"posted":1716050182}]}
{"title":"NBD","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994053,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Hey guys, new bike day for me. I pretty much just ride for exercise but the road bike has gotten a bit boring... So I bought an entry level trail bike and although I likely overpaid I'm still happy for now. Gonna try some easy trails in the next few days and see how it goes. How important is it to have knee and elbow pads? On the easy stuff?
Also how much hate should I expect for going with a trek?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714357191560353.jpg","filename":"KIMG0024.jpg"},"posted":1714357191},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994054,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"lol just realized I still havent taken off the reflectors or dork disc yet","attachment":null,"posted":1714357301},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"that's a sick bike
Love the matchy colors, (don't do more).
I've done a fair bit of mtbing but always on rented/borrowed or old and or shit bikes. Would love to get more into it on something good.
It's just so expensive and i loathe driving to ride a bike. Hopefully you're lucky to have trails out your back door. Some cities are like that and I want to move to one.
My favorite trails are the epic back country XC ones though. 2-3 day rides with huts on them.
Don't think i'll get bored of road biking. I like riding up hills more than down them and that's most fun on a road bike.
Have fun around all the ebike boomers on the trail btfoing you
Scraped knees isn't that bad. If you're worried about grazes on your arms then just wear a long sleeve shirt, that will stave off some of it. How likely you are to hurt yourself is really up to you. Having a newish and well fitted helmet is the only important thing in a crash, i'd say over half of even serious cyclists wear a helmet which is badly adjusted or has already had several knocks.
Those tires could be upgraded.","attachment":null,"posted":1714358373},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994066,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994057
thanks for the kind words
>Those tires could be upgraded.
I'm sure many things can be upgraded and when they wear out or break will be when I do it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714359243},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994076,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994053
>entry level
>modern full suspension
uhhh yeah.
That's a lot of bike and you can do black trails with it once you skillmax after a couple years of riding.
>knee and elbow pads
If you are just starting I would wear a long sleeve athletic shirt(if warm/you sweat) and maybe some loose pants that you put the pant leg in your sock. Just an extra layer of clothing helps a ton with mild OTB, or low side crashes.
Gloves and helmet I would recommend, every fall you will likely impact your hands somewhere and rocks hurt. Make sure you land on your forearms and never stick out your hands alone, since that can tweak your wrist.
Knee pads are what I would do if it's cool or you plan on hitting some sketchy stuff. I run a camelback and would ride to the spot, then put them on since they kinda suck to ride in.
Trek's are fine, just uninspiring. I started riding on a bontrager which wasn't related to trek at the time but is now after trek bought them.
Many of my friends rode and ride trek since they were big even 12 years ago.
Just ride, stay loose on the bike, and try to carry speed through sketchy sections sometimes.
Oh, and experiment with tire pressure, don't run max recommended unless it's a road only ride.
Experiment with fork and shock pressure, and settings.","attachment":null,"posted":1714360000},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994086,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994076
>once you skillmax after a couple years of riding.
hopefully some of my "skills" will come back I was actually sponsored for bmx about 20 years ago, and I still hit the cyclocross bike a few times a year. I know its not the same though so we will see.
>entry level
>modern full suspension
Thats kind of what I am thinking too but multiple reviews were saying the same thing... I'm hoping to hit some bike parks at the ski resorts later this year after I get a few dozen rides in.","attachment":null,"posted":1714361280},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994122,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994053
>Overpaid
Probably (bike market 2024), but you can't go wrong with Trek, so at least you got a solid base for the money.
Hit some real trails with it and have fun!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714372832413660.jpg","filename":"-chur-brambi-flow.jpg"},"posted":1714372832},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994124,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994053
>How important is it to have knee and elbow pads? On the easy stuff?
I always wear a helmet and knee pads that extend a bit lower to protect the shins also (more against the bike than the ground). Everything else is optional and really only necessary on gnarly rocky stuff.
>Also how much hate should I expect for going with a trek?
I've never heard of anyone getting hate for riding Trek. They're fantastic.","attachment":null,"posted":1714373039},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994125,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994057
>driving to ride a bike
Why would anyone do that ? You have a bike.
Is that what the boomers in their cages with pedal assisted electric motorcycles on a rack do ? Post-modernism hits hard.","attachment":null,"posted":1714373088},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994066
>I'm sure many things can be upgraded and when they wear out or break will be when I do it.
Right on. Don't fall for the material meme. Your bike is perfectly capable of everything you'll be throwing at it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714373201},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994086
>I'm hoping to hit some bike parks at the ski resorts later this year after I get a few dozen rides in.
Yeah, do that. Bike parks are perfect for learning technique.
Best to watch one of the billions of beginner's guide videos on YouTube for basic cornering (and jumping?) technique. Just so you know what to focus on when you're there.","attachment":null,"posted":1714373472},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994133,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"dont be a wrenchlet that doesn't do suspension maintenance","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714375239314307.jpg","filename":"1714209244316991.jpg"},"posted":1714375239},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994134,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994133
I.... like sparkly oil","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714376692872253.jpg","filename":"1659298248827210.jpg"},"posted":1714376692},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994125
>Why would anyone do that ? You have a bike.
That's why mountain bike people shouldn't be considered cyclists","attachment":null,"posted":1714386101},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994247,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994166
pretty sure they dont want to be considered cyclists either","attachment":null,"posted":1714413152},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994285,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994247
Nah, I'm ok with not being a cyclist.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714423510880969.jpg","filename":"Radfahrer.jpg"},"posted":1714423510},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994287,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994057
>Hopefully you're lucky to have trails out your back door.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714423888743075.jpg","filename":"Van1_e-copy.jpg"},"posted":1714423888},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994291,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994285
That guy looks much more pleasant to interact with than the average MTB guy","attachment":null,"posted":1714424536},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994486,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994291
lol no
coming from road biking to now doing a little mtbing all I have found in the hills so far is friendly people, in the past when I ran into road bikers they were usually stand offish and judgemental d-bags.","attachment":null,"posted":1714513417},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994498,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994486
We've learned from experience. You guys are the ones road raging at us in your SUVs on the way to the bike park.","attachment":null,"posted":1714514712},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994530,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994498
bro I'm OP, I literally bought my bike 3 days ago and that was my experience so far having ridden 2 days on some local mtb trails. Its also been the same when I would go riding bike paths.. the road bikers always had an attitude but when you called them out on it they would just speed off after pretending to be a victim.","attachment":null,"posted":1714520653},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994053
nice rig. rotate the bars so they have some rise instead of only sweep.
pads are personal preference. i haven't felt the need for them on my local trails, but i will be picking up some knee pads for bike park days.
nobody gives a shit what brand bike you are riding.","attachment":null,"posted":1714521538},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994535,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994533
>nobody gives a shit what brand bike you are riding
I do. Seeing a trek on trails means that it's time to stop riding there","attachment":null,"posted":1714523101},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994530
If everyone you meet is an asshole...","attachment":null,"posted":1714523838},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994541,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994536
>says everyone he met in the last few days mtbing were nice and friendly
>says meeting roadies were usually d-bags
nah brah your just proving my point. Go troll somewhere else","attachment":null,"posted":1714525591},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994546,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994541
I've met one or two roadies who seemed like jerks, out of hundreds. The vast majority are friendly and have good manners.
Most MTB people I meet are obnoxious low class boors.","attachment":null,"posted":1714527018},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994546
Ok you win, I hope some good happens for you today","attachment":null,"posted":1714529709},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994498
>>1994546
dumb leftcel","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714531985081795.jpg","filename":"1704498531349007.jpg"},"posted":1714531985},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994873,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994546
My experience is the opposite. Roadies mostly tend to be grumpy sourpusses and mountainbiker are much more likely to be happy and friendly.","attachment":null,"posted":1714717762},{"board":"n","thread":1994053,"pid":1994967,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994546
Sounds like you're an anxious beta cuck who's intimidated by loudmouthed guys.","attachment":null,"posted":1714775122}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1994210,"pid":1994210,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Urban sprawl is good as long as you have extensive coverage of railways, it's comfy too because it makes the urban core larger and takes longer to navigate through which is a vibe.
Does your city qualify for CHAD status?
Requirements:
>central urban area footprint of >=300 km^2
>at least 5 major intercity railway terminals within the urban zone
>metro footprint >=1200 km^2","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714404183722863.jpg","filename":"megacitymap.jpg"},"posted":1714404183},{"board":"n","thread":1994210,"pid":1994215,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994210
Care to explain a bit more about the map ? There seems to be going on alot more than the legend explains.","attachment":null,"posted":1714404833},{"board":"n","thread":1994210,"pid":1994216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994215
Picrel is not relevant, just a depiction of urban pop concentration, problem is that urban areas are often interchangeably conflated with metro area, I'm defining urban area as "city footprint".","attachment":null,"posted":1714404957},{"board":"n","thread":1994210,"pid":1994238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994210
>Urban sprawl is good as long as you have extensive coverage of railways","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714410821407634.gif","filename":"giphy.gif"},"posted":1714410821},{"board":"n","thread":1994210,"pid":1994302,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Asshurt schizophrenic troll thread","attachment":null,"posted":1714429327},{"board":"n","thread":1994210,"pid":1994317,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994216
Ok, but i too would like to know what is going on in that map. what do the black lines represent, why is it so distorted?","attachment":null,"posted":1714434514},{"board":"n","thread":1994210,"pid":1994335,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994210
How many Indians do you reckon have died on those tracks","attachment":null,"posted":1714441053},{"board":"n","thread":1994210,"pid":1994349,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994335
Just a case of predators keeping the local population from growing out of control","attachment":null,"posted":1714446084},{"board":"n","thread":1994210,"pid":1996650,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994317
It appears to distort the landmass so that the population density is equal across it. The farther apart the line spacing, the denser the population in an undistorted map.
Basically it swells high population density areas like India, China, Europe, Nigeria, East Africa, etc. while shrinking low population density areas like Canada, Siberia/Central Asia, the Sahara, the Amazon and Congo basins, etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1715605281}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1993785,"pid":1993785,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Please post BIG or otherwise interesting at-grade railroad crossings.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714270057119709.png","filename":"2024-04-27 20_53_56-2290 FL-826 - Google Maps - Brave.png"},"posted":1714270057},{"board":"n","thread":1993785,"pid":1993789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Another one, on the "interesting" side of the scale. Don't mind me, I'm just parking in a lot.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714270579139482.png","filename":"2024-04-27 21_15_06-carstracks-750x410.jpg (750×410) - Brave.png"},"posted":1714270579},{"board":"n","thread":1993785,"pid":1993856,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"In my old home town, virtually every thoroughfare with at least four lanes already has their level crossings replaced by bridges, the only exceptions being in our harbour (pic rel), branching off like this onto very minor terminals or company grounds, and in our outward industrial areas, which haven't seen rail traffic in literally decades","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714308746619785.png","filename":"Screenshot_141.png"},"posted":1714308746},{"board":"n","thread":1993785,"pid":1993864,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714309658989942.jpg","filename":"a2-bert-gortemaker-29230572.jpg"},"posted":1714309658},{"board":"n","thread":1993785,"pid":1995040,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993864
I've been on that dutch highway lately.
Americans would fear the fact you can travel 100kph (62mph) when coming from that 30km long levy and there's that out-of-nowhere railroad crossing.","attachment":null,"posted":1714830666},{"board":"n","thread":1993785,"pid":1995071,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995040
Why?","attachment":null,"posted":1714852556},{"board":"n","thread":1993785,"pid":1995090,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714863365310613.jpg","filename":"-1x-1[1].jpg"},"posted":1714863365}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994357,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">20 dollar toll peak hours to travel under 8 miles
I set my transponder to 3 occupants so it's free, if I ever get pulled over ll quickly set transponder to 1 and tell the cop their machines are malfunctioning. I've been doing it for about 2 years and have saved so many hours of time. What will eventually happen??","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714451302635431.jpg","filename":"Screen-Shot-2019-03-19-at-1.35.24-PM.jpg"},"posted":1714451302},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994358,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"you won't get pulled over, CHP already said they're done trying to cite people for this
I prefer the train though because fuck 580 regardless, and fuck 680, and fuck driving in alameda county","attachment":null,"posted":1714451348},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994358
I figure there's way too many people cheating for them to try and police it. I'm not giving this state any more fucking money. You subject yourself to riding BART? makes me kek the new methids to stop fare evasion","attachment":null,"posted":1714451545},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994359
Nta but i only ever ride between Union City and San Jose, clean new stations that nobody ~really~ uses, never encountered any feces/needles/schizos/etc","attachment":null,"posted":1714484739},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994413,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994411
There's a bart in man jose now?","attachment":null,"posted":1714484819},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994415,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994413
Yup, opened up right when wu-flu hit so kind of a soft/under the radar opening. For some reason VTA runs it rather than BART so you can still tap on with a physical plastic clipper card, station agents are always in the booths and the whole thing is kept very clean. In my experience, BART doesn't become really become the meme people know it has until you hit the core East Bay & SF stations.","attachment":null,"posted":1714485197},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994423,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994357
They have cameras checking occupancy in Virginia.","attachment":null,"posted":1714487362},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994423","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714504733782297.jpg","filename":"6fstwxghvln31.jpg"},"posted":1714504733},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994490,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994423
>They have cameras checking occupancy in Virginia.
Pretty sure all of them do and have for a while, enough to catch on what's a person and what's not. Stuffed animals are common and in Portland someone was ticketed for it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714513942},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994857,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994357
I'd be very surprised if the state ever caught up with you anon, express lanes are just another way to milk money out of bay area tax cattle, and I don't think any self-respecting cop is going to bother enforcing it","attachment":null,"posted":1714707172},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994870,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994423
CHP is currently banned from using them because of CA's privacy laws. Individual cities and counties use them extensively though, it's why looters don't hit San Mateo because they got red light cameras on all sides and will fuck people before they get into SF.","attachment":null,"posted":1714713048},{"board":"n","thread":1994357,"pid":1994871,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994857
I've seen it enforced, I've also been cited for not paying my bridge tolls and I have had my car towed for it too. Owed $1,500, DMV pulled my plates, and I let them keep my '98 civic lx because it was a pos anyway. They got me at benicia and made me discover crockett (dont google) while I walked to a safe area where a cab was willing to pick me up.","attachment":null,"posted":1714713217}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994460,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">no maintenance required
>can't be stolen
>inexpensive
>no storage needed
Is this the best form of commuting?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714507541935615.jpg","filename":"41C6DAF8-8C89-4D6C-9F2A-9C5BD00EC97D.jpg"},"posted":1714507541},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994461,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"heavy as fuck, sometimes station's empty, sometimes station full so you can't drop it there, requires credit card. shitty as hell.","attachment":null,"posted":1714507727},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I can see you've never tried. They can't respond to demand without big ass trucks hauling them around and redistributing them constantly. Otherwise left to their own devices they all pile up around the same 10% of stations. Try commuting on one to an area with a lot of commercial activity during the morning rush hour and good luck finding an open dock. Then the reverse happens to docks in areas around a major subway or commuter rail station, you just can't find a place to put the bike.
They are fine for WFH or opportunistic use when you're just out and about and need to cross town and there just happens to be a bike there. Unless it's a particularly nice day, that is, because everyone grabbed one for a fun ride.","attachment":null,"posted":1714507950},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Kinda niche imo. They're great late in the night when trains and buses don't ride anymore. Although I do find myself drunk in those situations a lot of the time so I don't use them. In most other cases just taking a bus is easier. Especially since you need to drop them of a bike stations to not get an extra fee.","attachment":null,"posted":1714507993},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994460
>Is this the best form of commuting?
kind of but it depends entirely on how the bikeshare is implemented. Like, in theory, it's the ideal transport because it's sustainable, no worry of it getting stolen, and they're everywhere. However, the way the city I live in implemented it poorly and off loaded the management of the bikeshare program to Lyft who so happened to make it equal or higher in cost than using their rideshare service, absolutely retarded.
keep in mind, everything I'm going to so here will be regarding Divvy, Chicago's bikeshare program
>no maintenance required
yeah but being at the whims of the company's diligence on maintenance is hit or miss
>can't be stolen
honestly the best part of riding a bikeshare but the company themself has had serious issues with theft
>inexpensive
yeah no, Divvy was really cheap before Lyft took business, now it's kind of absurd and might as well take a CTA day-pass instead
>no storage needed
inb4 docking station is full and the next station is stupidly far away","attachment":null,"posted":1714508175},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994474,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714510122236996.png","filename":"IMG_2156.png"},"posted":1714510122},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994474
Oh hello flyover, I guess you didn't realize people can both own things and use services. I have a crabbon fred sled that keeps me happy. A 50 pound steel boat anchor doesn't make me happy because I'm not dutch. It's just a way to get around that you don't have to drag with you into the store and ram people with like a park slope stroller karen. Just leave it outside and if it gets stolen it's not my problem anymore.","attachment":null,"posted":1714510650},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994501,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994477
Very defensive post anon
You don't seem happy","attachment":null,"posted":1714515188},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994506,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994501
Why do you talk like those people who stand on street corners accosting strangers about your religious beliefs?","attachment":null,"posted":1714515590},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994507,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i have 2 scooters and an ebike in my shed that people rented and abandoned. i don't understand why they're abandoned so often.. are they nogs using stolen credit cards or something? anyway, i'll eventually build something with the motors. i sold the batteries on facebook.","attachment":null,"posted":1714515715},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994508,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994506
nta, but settle down you neurotic city rat. live the life you want, it's not a contest.
but if it were you guys would lose hard, just sayin'","attachment":null,"posted":1714515811},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994516,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994508
Yeah I know you guys fantasize about a civil war, I've been to /k/. You sure think about shooting people a hell of a lot. Must be because you're so happy","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714516399653000.jpg","filename":"images.jpg"},"posted":1714516399},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994648,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994460
>heavy as fuck
excuses excuses","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714596132799939.jpg","filename":"Jerome_Jenkem_Citibikeboyz_Subway_145gap.jpg"},"posted":1714596132},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994671,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994648
There's a police station on the mezzanine level of that station but they're probably too busy vandalizing the fare readers so they can bust people for fare evasion to notice someone dragging in a stolen citibike","attachment":null,"posted":1714615516},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994813,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994460
Have never witnessed one of these going over 10mph.
>>1994506
Funny, no people like that where I live.","attachment":null,"posted":1714696200},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994941,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994501
Not him, but kill yourself.
>>1994508
You should also kill yourself, but for different reasons.","attachment":null,"posted":1714760062},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994477
>I'm not dutch
grim","attachment":null,"posted":1714766021},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1994979,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994460
>>can't be stolen","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714781638182729.png","filename":"1666477445086111.png"},"posted":1714781638},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1995096,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994460
For daily commuting it's better to use your own bike since these are pretty slow. But they are incredibly usefull in some situations. In my city they just cost a few euros for a yearly pass. I love them, every 1st world city needs these.","attachment":null,"posted":1714867488},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1995113,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They were removed from my city because no one rode them. Not even the dockless ebikes have taken off. Rental E-Scooters are very popular however and people tend to try them out, then graduate to buying their own.","attachment":null,"posted":1714882694},{"board":"n","thread":1994460,"pid":1995137,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994460
e-scooters are 100 times more useful","attachment":null,"posted":1714898743}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1994492,"pid":1994492,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What are some cities with both good highway/road infrastructure AND good mass transit systems?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714514024566848.jpg","filename":"Mixed-Race-Hands-600x400-c-default.jpg"},"posted":1714514024},{"board":"n","thread":1994492,"pid":1994493,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Singapore, but the cycling is terrible
Which is weird because they make really good bib shorts","attachment":null,"posted":1714514279},{"board":"n","thread":1994492,"pid":1994532,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994492
unironically tokyo, because of public works programs focused on grade separated highways, and of course their public transit which speaks for itself. for a country that adapted so much good urbanism from the western world their bicycle infrastructure is shit though, close to american-tier.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714520984755605.jpg","filename":"shutterstock_295706765.jpg"},"posted":1714520984},{"board":"n","thread":1994492,"pid":1994609,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"New York","attachment":null,"posted":1714565482},{"board":"n","thread":1994492,"pid":1994767,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994532
Tokyo highways are not good, nothing special, except for how slow, expensive, and low capacity they are. The expressway system fits the area's needs, but it is not a good system. Grade separating through such tactics as building over a river is not a good look. Tokyo transit is good, but unable to meet the demand of the area. Bicycle infrastructure is largely unnecessary, biking in tokyo is pretty decent ignoring the climate. When I've had to commute during peak hours I much preferred cycling to the railways.","attachment":null,"posted":1714670097},{"board":"n","thread":1994492,"pid":1994779,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994609
your having a laugh","attachment":null,"posted":1714674071},{"board":"n","thread":1994492,"pid":1994781,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994767
>slow, expensive, and low capacity
this describes any busy highway
>transit unable to meet the demand of the area
based on what, the meme of pushing people into overcrowded trains? the worst line in that regard was the yamanote line in the 90s, at 250% capacity. it's now at max 150% due to opening parallel routes.
>Bicycle infrastructure is largely unnecessary
it really isn't, it might seem that way if you're used to worse standards but good infra makes a huge difference to the amount of people riding bikes and their comfort/safety.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714678538010632.jpg","filename":"ECVomqjXoAAv8fC.jpg"},"posted":1714678538},{"board":"n","thread":1994492,"pid":1994795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994781
>this describes any busy highway
Tokyo highways have ridiculously low speed limits for a "highway" in many places. Other places in the world have untolled highways. Different highways certainly have different capacities.
>based on what, the meme of pushing people into overcrowded trains? the worst line in that regard was the yamanote line in the 90s, at 250% capacity. it's now at max 150% due to opening parallel routes.
Unless you're referring to the Ueno-Tokyo line connection or the Fukutoshin metro, no, there haven't been any parallel routes built.
Tozai, Chuo Sobu, Sobu, Saikyo, Yokosuka, Chuo, Tokaido, Tokyu, Seibu lines are still quite bad. Getting from Chiba to Tokyo in the morning is not fun.","attachment":null,"posted":1714688417},{"board":"n","thread":1994492,"pid":1994811,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994781
>this describes any busy highway
Tokyo's highways are all tolled and are only two lanes in each direction. For a major world city, two lanes in each direction is literally third-world tier. In most of America, even in urban areas, the freeways are 65-75 mph during non-rush hour (and assuming no big wrecks or events).","attachment":null,"posted":1714694789},{"board":"n","thread":1994492,"pid":1995057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994492
Anywhere in Italy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714840339}]}
{"title":"Be me","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1994496,"pid":1994496,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">accidentally bust a bravo
>gf as passenger
>told her to jerk my dick
>she jerks me
> high voltage light
> so much stress
>no phone number
>busted in her hand
>she wipes me
>turbulence starts to kick in
>landed safely","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714514565557186.jpg","filename":"IMG_3738.jpg"},"posted":1714514565},{"board":"n","thread":1994496,"pid":1994622,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"fake and gay","attachment":null,"posted":1714576325},{"board":"n","thread":1994496,"pid":1994685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994496
Mokulele is peak regional kino","attachment":null,"posted":1714619936},{"board":"n","thread":1994496,"pid":1994830,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994685
>working for the devil
i'll pass","attachment":null,"posted":1714699651},{"board":"n","thread":1994496,"pid":1994853,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Bot thread, niggers tongue my anus","attachment":null,"posted":1714705929}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1994401,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Oh hey guys, just going to walk my herd down this here road a few miles. You don't mind waiting, right?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714479386768873.jpg","filename":"moo.jpg"},"posted":1714479386},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1994416,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994401
I don't. Go right ahead.","attachment":null,"posted":1714485573},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1994419,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994416
Mighty kind of ya.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714485901033174.jpg","filename":"haveyouherdthegoodnews.jpg"},"posted":1714485901},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1994421,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994401
Just mooove on by, I'm gonna take some pics cos my friends are udderly crazy for bovine bamboozlers.","attachment":null,"posted":1714486439},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1994424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I don't mind. Cows are based and I'm not in a rush, being on a mountain road and all.","attachment":null,"posted":1714487505},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1994425,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Cows are chads, I wouldn’t mooove to an area with cows if I was going to complain the cows were sometimes in the way.","attachment":null,"posted":1714488333},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1994574,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Farmers, racnhers, etc., get a pass. They feed us.","attachment":null,"posted":1714541796},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1994621,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Utmost respect for all farmers and shepherds, always try to keep out of the way and wait for their signal to safely pass, not like this douche that posted on komoot a picture of this fine shepherd's bside. Would have fucking slapped him, comment on the photo was also implicitly lewd.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714575692157470.jpg","filename":"Tt.jpg"},"posted":1714575692},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1994624,"name":"BaconoRider","msg":">>1994401
>>1994419
Hors!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714579829118245.jpg","filename":"threefriends.jpg"},"posted":1714579829},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1994627,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I wouldn't raise a hoof about it","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714581735161879.jpg","filename":"1000005542.jpg"},"posted":1714581735},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1995331,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"*snatches one cow in the chaos*","attachment":null,"posted":1714997601},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1995339,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994624
Couldnit he have just kept his tiny horse even though they were losing the farm?
I mean, it fit in a box and all , he could have kept it under his bad","attachment":null,"posted":1714998842},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1995519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994401
>revs
>scares all the cattle
>road clear, farmer seething","attachment":null,"posted":1715080545},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1995812,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994401
They are you roads more than anyone else's, local resident. Thank you for letting my parasitic ass use them at all. Maybe I'll use this as a lesson to not pointlessly travel through land I don't own to other things I don't own, at the expense of everyone's time, resources, and the surface of the earth.","attachment":null,"posted":1715184967},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1996411,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994621
>Would have fucking slapped him, comment on the photo was also implicitly lewd.
He was Kiwi?","attachment":null,"posted":1715467813},{"board":"n","thread":1994401,"pid":1996424,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994401
Thank you for your service.","attachment":null,"posted":1715477163}]}
{"title":"/bqg/ - Bike Questions General","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"the mustached man edition
Read this:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/
https://www.parktool.com/en-us/blog/repair-help
Old >>199235","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714516327788635.png","filename":"tegaki_2024_04_29_05_28_13.png"},"posted":1714516327},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994517,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994513
oops, old: >>1992357","attachment":null,"posted":1714516420},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994518,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why is there a bar on that guy's face, it makes the image seem lewd somehow","attachment":null,"posted":1714516473},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994518
to protect his identity","attachment":null,"posted":1714516513},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994523,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"is this a ss from that snooker interview where the dude sucks the kids ear?","attachment":null,"posted":1714516986},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994542,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"!dropperfitment","attachment":null,"posted":1714526247},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994545,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What's the best way to clean contaminated pads and rotor? Cooking them? Alcohol? Nail polish? Sanding? All of the above?","attachment":null,"posted":1714526968},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994547,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994545
brake cleaner. who'd have thunk?","attachment":null,"posted":1714527064},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994548,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994547
the shit they sell in auto parts stores for $4, not some fancy bike-specific brand","attachment":null,"posted":1714527139},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994552,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994545
isopropyl for the rotor
there's not much point in trying to clean dirty pads, just grind through the dirty part and move on with your life","attachment":null,"posted":1714528179},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994557,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994513
Are brooks saddles actually worth it? I'm gonna go on a tour and need a new saddle anyways cause my current one is from the 70s. Would there be any problem with buying a used one off ebay? I was thinking either b17 or b15.","attachment":null,"posted":1714528753},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994558,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994557
get a selle anatomica and don't support perfidious albion","attachment":null,"posted":1714528822},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994557
yeah, just get a new one since the resale value is up there if you ride it for a bit and decide you don't like it. the whole idea is that it is broken in and has conformed to your ass. obviously don't get a wide saddle if your current one is narrow and you like it.
>>1994558
or this if you really care that much","attachment":null,"posted":1714531012},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994576,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994523
I saw that clip with Hendry's face, and I got JV's voice in my head.
I might be cursed.
HE PLAYED THAT AB-SOLUTELY PITCH PER-FECT
>>1994558
Yeah, I also like when my "sadds" are made in Cali Wali.","attachment":null,"posted":1714543664},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"applying to a job i'll have to commute to by bicycle
anyone have experience with daily bicycle commuting? anything I should know?
it's about a 15 minute ride if I'm going at a very leisurely pace and we're heading into winter here in aus (which means no snow but lots of rain and some pretty chilly days cause I'm down south)","attachment":null,"posted":1714544880},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994578
you want fenders and a rack.","attachment":null,"posted":1714548338},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994588,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994578
consider getting a tire with some puncture resistance, flats are a real killer for commuting","attachment":null,"posted":1714553164},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994592,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994578
I wrote all this other stuff before realising you're just applying, so the short answer Is: You're golden 15 minutes bike commute is the comfiest. You release stress but you don't get tired.
Long answer, in the case you're getting the job: if you're putting fenders and rack, and you have a place to store your bike, maybe you can put some classic rear bags.
Inside you can have something for the rain and wind. a long rain poncho with hoodie in a bright color and a couple of light waterproof gloves should suffice, but if you'll face torrential rain you can also go for a pair of rain trousers with integrated gaiters to put on top of your trousers.
You can also bring a front and back light, something light and rechargeable.
With a couple bags you can also be free to pick some groceries on your way home.
As with any commute you should always think something goes wrong. In this case a punctured tire is the only thing that could stop you, but I've seen real newbies stuck on the side of the road for a simple dropped chain. If your tire setup is smart you'll never have to worry for a puncture, but if you just got some random tires be prepared to replace the tube (a 10 min job) or have an alternative. You could bring some tire levers, a tube, and a pump in your bag. And maybe a rag to clean your hands.
Depending on where you live, and where you keep your bike while you work or at home, you should have to consider a bike lock or other anti theft possibilities.","attachment":null,"posted":1714554307},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994603,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"anyone have experience with cranksets from aliexpress?
decent for a commuter bike or nah?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714558340101892.png","filename":"U89J7n9[1].png"},"posted":1714558340},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994614,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994513
Walmart nepos (who already own Rapha) quietly bought a sizable stake in Trek from the founding Burke family.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBxIlLsBlT8&t=2919s","attachment":null,"posted":1714572630},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994632,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994603
Those look sketch outright
For all things AliExpress, check Trace velo on YouTube he digs deep into chink bike stuff. I recall there's one alloy crankset that was fairly light amd very cheap that passed snuff","attachment":null,"posted":1714582633},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994633,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How to understand which dropper post good for me? I mean: inner part on my bike (which goes inside the frame) 260 mm. Diameter 30.9. But I can’t figure out which dropper to choose, 125 or 150mm; besides, they don’t write anywhere the length of inner part of the seatpost. I only found information about Fox transfer, it seems to suit my bike. But i'd like to find something cheaper if possible.","attachment":null,"posted":1714583804},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994636,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994633
The stanchion length is 125 or 150mm, plus the height of the seat clamp itself","attachment":null,"posted":1714587850},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994637,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994636
That's what i can’t figure out - how long the seat clamp itself is","attachment":null,"posted":1714588453},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994639,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994578
you still have to go to work if it's raining, so prepare.
I'm middle aged now and have cycle commuted on and off since I was 16 in high school.
in my experience, full fenders and a rain cape are best in rain. the cape is open at the bottom like a poncho but shaped specifically for bike riding. that way, air circulates and it's not a sweat factory like an ordinary raincoat. the fenders keep off the water kicked up by your tires from the nasty ground . you stay completely dry and comfortable, and none of the dirty road spray gets on you , your drivetrain, and bike.
however, 15 minutes is cake, you could probably get away with an "ass saver" and a rain hat and windbreaker if you just want the minimum. if it comes down in buckets, you can always ride under an awning or thick tree cover near the trunk and wait out the worst.
if it makes you late, call the boss and say you caught a flat. rub grime from the rims on your hands for "proof".
speaking of, you need to learn how to change a flat and carry a patch kit and a small pump. it's easy and pretty quick once you've done it a few times.
for cold, your main enemy is the air /"wind" pulling all the warmth off of you as you speed through it (plus any actual wind on top of that.) modest warmth clothing under a windproof layer is all you need. keeping your (high from exercise) body heat inside the wind break will keep you toasty. if you wear winter coats under a wind break, you WILL overheat. wearing a few layers under the windbreaker allows for temperature regulation by removal if you get too hot.
again, 15 minutes is cake, so your body will probably be getting fully warmed up right when you arrive, so you may have more wiggle room for your clothing recipe
have fun! a bike ride always puts you in a good mood to start the day","attachment":null,"posted":1714590430},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994640,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994614
aaaand Trek goes from reputable brand to BSO trash overnight. reminds me of Mongoose","attachment":null,"posted":1714590613},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994641,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994614
>over an hour
did you want to give a time stamp for the information you claim is in there somewhere?","attachment":null,"posted":1714590857},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994642,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994637
They’re normal 2-bolt saddle clamps you can just measure a normal one down to where the stanchion starts and use that chunk as an estimate","attachment":null,"posted":1714591105},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994641
The link is timestamped. 48:39 if the video somehow starts at the beginning for you.","attachment":null,"posted":1714591540},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994643
I just clicked the embed button, it started at the beginning for me within your post, but thanks","attachment":null,"posted":1714591731},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994647,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994614
I have no particular love for Rapha but that's too bad about Trek, glad I didn't buy those Bontrager wheels","attachment":null,"posted":1714593336},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994651,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994592
I'm running panaracer gravelking SK+ Slicks and have never had a puncture in them (2000km ridden so far)
I'm not a newbie to bicycles, but it's only ever been for fitness road/gravel cycling, I have never ridden anywhere with a purpose I'm always just cycling about
I might get a new bike if fenders and paniers are the way to go though, dont wanna put that shit on my actual road bike but i can see how it would be very helpful because otherwise in the worse rains i'm gunna turn up filthy.","attachment":null,"posted":1714600204},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994689,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I just got a used steel bike that's in "almost ridable but not quite condition." I noticed there's some surface rusting below the bottom bracket shell. What should I do to prevent the rust from damaging the structural integrity of the frame?
Yes, I know the shifting cable is fucked and has slid off the guide and is rubbing against the frame.","attachment":null,"posted":1714626817},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994691,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994689
forgot pic","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714626900922359.jpg","filename":"resize.jpg"},"posted":1714626900},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994693,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994691
>rust
don't over shift/adjust your front derailleur so the chain doesn't fall off the inner cog and rub the bb. That's what caused the rust in the first place.
Besides that if I had some time I would remove the drive side crank, sand the effected area, and layer it up with some paint. Spray paint if you need it to dry fast. rustoleum if you just want a thick coat for protection.
Or use rust converter if you have that laying around.
Unless you ride in the salt it won't go bad that quick, but it's better for your concious to see whats up in that area, clean, and repaint.
Hope you got it cheap, since she is rough","attachment":null,"posted":1714627667},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994694,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994693
I think it was a good deal for US$60.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714628712915911.jpg","filename":"1714628601185.jpg"},"posted":1714628712},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994691
Pictures like this make me glad to keep all my bike tools in my bedroom within arms reach, I could rip that whole thing apart in 11 minutes and dunk it all in cleany stuff","attachment":null,"posted":1714629439},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994698,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994694
Oh nice. Yeah it's a good deal with nice tubing and probably nice parts.
What's the plan for this one?","attachment":null,"posted":1714630861},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994723,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994603
I have the ones pictured
Suprised by the good quality and clever design. You can adjust the play to the bottom bracket with a spacer nut, that can be locked.
One the pedal threads was very tight but I managed to get them in.
It's also a modular system so you can get 130BCD, 110BCD spiders etc
Would buy again","attachment":null,"posted":1714647468},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994698
1. Get it to a state where I'm certain rust is contained. I will probably have to strip off all the parts, treat the frame, and reassemble.
2. Ride for a few months.
3. Decide if I want to keep or sell at a markup.","attachment":null,"posted":1714651305},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994735,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994726
Like Arkansas or Texas?","attachment":null,"posted":1714657647},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994740,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994689
high spec steel tubing can be 1/4 of a millimeter in the centre of the tubes, but bottom bracket shells are way chunkier, and they're filled with grease. Not really a problem area for rust aside from a siezed bb.
That doesn't look bad. Just surface rust. You can just clean it off with a solvent, wd40, whatever, and something mildly abrasive. I would strip, clean and wax the frame. Maybe spray internally, or just the chainstays. That's usually where bikes rust out as water can pool there. Also chainstay protectors can cause serious rust issues so check that if there is one.
Paint touch ups aren't hard unless you're precious about the look. Pic rel is an example i did. Basically just scrape the rust off, clean, mask, rust converter primer (dries black) and then spray.
Pic of the whole bike? Must be pretty awesome. I have something with similiar tubeset and it's one of my favorite bikes to ride.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714659338296017.jpg","filename":"rust touch up (Custom).jpg"},"posted":1714659338},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994746,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994723
Thats literally the way sram and everyone after them chose to do it because shimano took out a 'patent' on the most obvious way to adjust preload.
Threads being out of spec is a modt badic red flag.
Many current modular cranksets suffer heavily from tolerance and fit issues at the interfaces, especially those designs that require high tolerance and cleanliness because of essentially being designed as a forbidden double fit, like rotor and knock-offs.","attachment":null,"posted":1714662537},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994754,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994723
0.01c has been deposited into your account, rajesh","attachment":null,"posted":1714665002},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994754
you can see from the reviews who buys this kind of stuff. i think mainly south americans. even south east asians prefer shimano.
There's no reason to buy this stuff, at least in europe a basic shimano crankset or cassete is usually cheaper or same price than aliexpress.
I still think that for some road or quirky stuff chinesium is good, but for reliable commuting and urban, as specified by op, I go with branded stuff.","attachment":null,"posted":1714667235},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994766,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994761
I bought it bc it was the only 165mm 130BCD 5-arm crank I could find","attachment":null,"posted":1714669568},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994768,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994766
>muh 5mm less
this confirms what I wrote at the end of the post: for quirky stuff chinesium is good
you're quirky","attachment":null,"posted":1714670334},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994775,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994766
Rotor, croder, TA, INGRID, shimano, ridea, sram, first, suzue, hope, sugino, FSA ...
> what did he mean by this
just to name a few that I am pretty certain all have some sub 170 mm 130 BCD cranksets in their lineup and in most cases at least a little bit more reputation than chinkshit I had to force a pedal axle in.","attachment":null,"posted":1714671608},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994792,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Whats the general opinion here about motorized bicycles?
The chinese kits on ebay look sketchy and arent all that durable from what ive read, any better ones I could use?
No, i dont want an electric one.","attachment":null,"posted":1714686168},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994799,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994792
Like, an internal combustion engine? I don’t think you need to ask here, I can tell you live in a third world country. Just go down to your local mechanical guy and ask him.","attachment":null,"posted":1714690166},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994792
I'm sorry you got a DUI, ride the bus, and keep your weed whacker engine in the shed.
>>1994632
Trave Velo is a wonderful human being.
Is waxing a chain worth it?","attachment":null,"posted":1714691687},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994838,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994740
That's really nice work, and I feel I have a pretty good idea of what needs to be done now thanks to your effort post. I really appreciate that.
I don't want to post the entire bike as the previous owner put on a lot of stickers and thus can probably be narrowed down to exactly one specific bike. Here's another angle showing some drain hole rusting.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714700682944581.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240501_163924.jpg"},"posted":1714700682},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994851,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994838
>he got the bridgestone mb-0
probably worth 1k to some grant peterson aficionados/bridgestone cultists.
Have fun.","attachment":null,"posted":1714705036},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994852,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994792
In my locale mopeds are looked down as dui/homeless/etc. Worse then bicycles, and I have a motorcycle since they are so cheap here so I just run that if I need low/no effort riding.
>>1994803
>is chain waxing worth it
depends on who you are. It's nice that it doesn't collect grime as bad, and it's low friction, so I think it's worthwhile if you don't mind the hassle.
I have lots of oil/chain lube and prefer using that.","attachment":null,"posted":1714705194},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994854,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994838
lewd dirty brake hole","attachment":null,"posted":1714706088},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994855,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"is 4x10min at 100% FTP too high for intervals?
Zwift rated it at a 4.5/5 for effort, and I had to cheat in a lot of breaks in the second half when I tried it.
The other two workouts felt fine","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714706772304739.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20240503_072331.jpg"},"posted":1714706772},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994862,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994855
If you have to cheat it's too hard for you right now.
Maybe go for something that's a 4.25 or 4.0 difficulty first. Then slowly ramp up over the weeks","attachment":null,"posted":1714709183},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994874,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994775
>I am pretty certain all have some sub 170 mm 130 BCD cranksets
no, they don't. At least not 5-arm 165mm. They're all discontinued.
I've checked Sram, Shimano, FSA, Rotor","attachment":null,"posted":1714718556},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994875,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994874
wtf.
All the tubers are obsessed with 165mm or below cranks and I would expect others too since many chinese are getting into cycling with possibly short legs.
oh well, at least I am a 175mm enjoyer.","attachment":null,"posted":1714719401},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994876,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994875
>I am a 175mm enjoyer.
I am aswell on my road bike.
I needed the short crank for my recumbent, where shorter cranks are the way to go. Velomobile riders have 150-155mm cranks. People literally drill new threads in 175 cranks and chop them off. You also have to dick with huge custom chainrings, hence I'm stuck to 5-arm 130BCD.
Chinks could make good money if they'd offer 150 155 160 5-arm 130BCD cranks.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714720565865456.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240302_143400-01~01.jpg"},"posted":1714720565},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994880,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994876
Guessing recumbents run 20in or smaller wheels, so it makes sense you need big chainrings.
DESU I have some fuckhuge 110bcd chainrings from when my dad and I were on a 26in tandem. I know I have a 56 110bcd and might even have the BFR(big fucking ring) of 60 tooth 110 which looks stupid.
I am genuinely surprised they don't offer it since you would think they have some us media watchers finding out products they can make.
I know white industries and other boutique companies make sub 165's.... but those cost way too much.","attachment":null,"posted":1714726641},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994889,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994876
Which the chinese do. Picrel to name an example.
>>1994874
So youre saying the octa link track cranks are discontinued ? I kind of doubt that. I mean fine it's not exactly 130mm I'll give you that. Still, same point, and shimano is just known to phase shit out quick and push the next thing. Andel pretty sure too would have had something and is more of a taiwan name brand compared to chang here.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714733496453012.jpg","filename":"chinkmadecranks.jpg"},"posted":1714733496},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994909,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994889
>it's not exactly 130mm
What is your point then?
Still waiting for you to post a link on exactly 130BCD 5-arm.
That is still the standard size for large affordable custom chainrings","attachment":null,"posted":1714743537},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994911,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994875
It's an overreaction but the violent backlash against absurdly long cranks being put on all road bikes is completely justified. Everyone seems to have accepted that 11-34 is a good all purpose road cassette so that's progress I guess but somehow we're still stuck on 52t chainrings and 175mm cranks on road bikes for normies, because we're all chris froome apparently. This is why people buy 1x and think it was 1x that fixed the problem and it wasn't just that their last bike was geared for morons","attachment":null,"posted":1714744662},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994909
>custom
>standard
kek.
Anyways yes perhaps not the case with shimano anymore. Like I said they phas out shit fast.
You can have 24 and 30 mm, or square taper cranks in 5 arm 165 / 130 at many places still. Moot discussion anyways if the thing holds up and you dont one day experience a catastrophic failure (from experience breaking cranks and pedals, it's always a bummer accident) then I'm glad you're happy with the purchase.","attachment":null,"posted":1714744980},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994921,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Still can't figure out why pinky toes keep going numb.
>adjust seatpost height
>move foot contact point
>switch between shoes and sandals
Flat pedals by the way. Any suggestions?","attachment":null,"posted":1714749924},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994923,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994921
probably meds for autism or something","attachment":null,"posted":1714750080},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994924,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994921
carbon soles","attachment":null,"posted":1714750557},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994931,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anyone here ride fixed gears? Found this State Co bike for 250 here locally.
Not sure if it would be worth it or how quality these are just wondering if anyone has any experience with these. I live in a hilly area. Thanks bros.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714751678033983.jpg","filename":"83059350-D292-48A7-A5B6-ECE28B62057C.jpg"},"posted":1714751678},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994934,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994931
I fell for the fixie meme when it was at its peak in the 2000s. At some point a few years in I started to realize I hated cycling and my mileage had gone way down. A few years after, I had basically stopped riding, I sold it to a laggard and bought a bike with gears, and for some weird reason I liked riding again. It took me a while to admit to myself that I had been a fool.","attachment":null,"posted":1714753799},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994942,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994931
That’s a $99 bike, if you’re looking for fixies why the hell you looking at $200 fixies, they’re designed to be cheap as shit","attachment":null,"posted":1714760074},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994944,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994931
>hilly area
>fixed gear
you better be strong, or light, or both.
I run single speed in my area and have 2 bikes setup for it. One has easy/peasy gearing and I can climb 99% of my local hills, but end up CROOOZing on the flats due to spinning out.
Other bike has "light" gearing of 46,17 and I only ride it on hard days. Since I basically stand all the big hills and it's freaking hard.
I would recommend having another bike, and a fixed cog if you live in hilly areas.","attachment":null,"posted":1714760775},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994965,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994931
Fixed is fun in its simplicity (ease of maintenance and no fret riding style). As >>1994944 said, I would get a bike with gears since hills, unless this is n+1 for you.
Anons, I know mechanically it would work, but is there any reason you couldn't/shouldn't mount a front rack/basket to a bike with caliper brakes?","attachment":null,"posted":1714771132},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994966,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994944
people in this board are really something...","attachment":null,"posted":1714773705},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994984,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How many times, if ever, have you nearly been hit by a car? Today was my 2nd date out commuting to the city (5 miles each way) and nearly got fucking creamed by some dumb bitch in a 4runner on the fucking sidewalk............. as in she wasn't paying attention, drove up curb, panicked, hit the gas even more, and nearly took me out from behind.
Kind of scared now.","attachment":null,"posted":1714788187},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994984
Depending on your definition of "nearly" and "hit", a few times a week. It's usually a sideways kind of deal where they just wrench the wheel to the right as hard as they can and hit the gas without looking. This week I was pulling up to an intersection and someone in a small SUV got impatient and did that sort of sideways lurch thing cagers do, luckily there was space for me to swerve to the right. Last week something similar with a rape van. Luckily relative speeds are pretty low most of the time so there's time to hit the brakes. I've only been actually *hit* like that (as in impact and blood) once. Ruined my favorite gloves. Doorings don't count as that's usually something that should be avoidable.
It helps to remember everyone wants to kill you and they will at the first opportunity, but they don't mean anything by it, they're just dumb animals going on instinct. The only ones that really scare me are the box trucks and construction vehicles because they're big enough to have shit visibility but small enough where any idiot is allowed to drive them in the city.","attachment":null,"posted":1714788728},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994990,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994984
never.
I ride mostly bike trails, or on the sidewalk at non-commuter hours.
Admittedly I live in a rich suburb with my parents so the general populace may be smarter/have more to lose by killing a random dude. I also avoid shitty roads like the plague. If there is a ton of traffic going 50+mph and I am in the bike lane doing maybe 25 I just don't ride that road again. Freaking asking for trouble since it just takes one mishap and I can be road grime.
I have had closer interactions on my motorcycle.","attachment":null,"posted":1714794437},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1994992,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994984
I don’t believe in bicycles playing in traffic over 25mph, I’m a proud sidewalker (unless there’s zero traffic)","attachment":null,"posted":1714797964},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995002,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I just bought a Trek FX Sport 4 (it's coming in the mail). The first bike I've bought since 2013 (it was shit). I haven't actively road since 2016.
How good was my purchase?","attachment":null,"posted":1714806251},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995003,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995002
I hope you got in the dark green color. Not a fan of the 1x but I understand people don't like FD's.
I bet you will like it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714806411},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995004,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995003
>Dark Green Color
I just looked it up, it's meh. Would definitely get the Black version if I got that one.
To be more specific, I bought a pre-owned white one which I think looks fire.","attachment":null,"posted":1714806952},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995006,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ok so I have the design of my trailer down, but I'm not sure what to do about the hitch/arm system. I am thinking that this quick disconnect ball-joint system is probably going to be the easiest, having a 90 degree arm coming up from the A-frame with the receiver mounted to it, and the ball affixed to the rear rack.
But is 35 degrees of movement going to be enough? I was considering heim joints, but those don't seem to offer any more rotation, maybe less. U-Joints, name brand ones anyway, are insanely fucking expensive. These QA1 ball joints are like 12 bucks shipped off ebay. McMaster Carr doesn't seem to have them anymore.
I'm going to have to weld a plate, or just sandwich two plates on the rack and having the ability to remove the ball would be good. A plate welded with a nut so that it sits flush with the top platform of the rack seems like a good idea, but where should the ball hitch even be in relation to the bike? Should it be over the rear axle or closer like a fifth wheel hitch system?
Also what would be a good location for the rear axle, keeping the wheelbase long enough to be balanced but not so far back that there is too much load on the hitch? I haven't welded anything yet, I just have the main frame cut, and that is going to determine where I put the center brace since that is where the axle and axle tube will mount.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714807945526844.png","filename":"BALLES.png"},"posted":1714807945},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995007,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995004
So you got it on sale? nice. I just like vibrant colors, but I understand most people like white/black/gray/brown.","attachment":null,"posted":1714808009},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995008,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995007
Yeah and it was the correct size. I have 30 days to try it out, figured why not.
I like vibrant colors too, but it really depends on the color / shade for me.
I would totally buy a bike of this color / share of green.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714808308699642.png","filename":"green.png"},"posted":1714808308},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995018,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995006
if the ball is mounted vertically to the bike, then the trailer will have no angular restriction on the horizontal plane.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714814491916119.jpg","filename":"s-l960.jpg"},"posted":1714814491},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995022,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995018
Fore and aft will be a non-issue, but I was worried if 35 deg will offer enough side to side movement for cornering. Speeds will be lower in general so cornering is going to be less aggressive, but I wasn't sure if that would be enough without binding during cornering since I've never really considered what sort of angle cornering at various speeds requires. Like if it does bind isn't it just going to create tension that has to be dispersed somewhere, like through the rest of the bike moving forward...? I dunno.
I'm sure I'm just overthinking this, i know fuck all about physics","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714816275151024.png","filename":"torsion reaction.png"},"posted":1714816275},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995024,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995008
That would be cool too. fluoro yellow/neon green ends up being a love/hate color choice for most people.
>>1995022
The slower and sharper the turn the more degrees of angle will be used. At least that is my guess. At speed you won't be turning that far so 35 degrees might be enough, but I suspect you would need to do a bunch of math, which is more annoying then just making the thing.
Also, what if you had the female"socket"in a sleeve that rolled in the hitch? Using something like a delrin bushing or pvc as the slippery material then running a pin/bolt through the whole setup so it would stay attached.The pin/bolt would ride in a slot you made in the hitch.
Just an idea if you need more rotation beyond the 35 degrees and it might allow better leaning.","attachment":null,"posted":1714816745},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995025,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995024
>math, which is more annoying then just making the thing
ya lol. i mean the ball joint is 15 bucks and i have enough square tubing to make the arm.
that's a good idea but considering the length of the piece that sits over the rack, i think i would need a long piece of thread rod to hold it kinda like pic rel i guess? I had originally intended on welding it because that would be pretty easy, but this might be better. i have some poly bushings kicking around somewhere, not sure if they're the right size though.
it'd be a lot cheaper just to have the threaded rod spin across the bushings, but i dunno if it would bend within the square tubing or not without a sleeve. meh, worst case shit breaks and it's rebuilt stronger i guess.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714817534636932.png","filename":"movement.png"},"posted":1714817534},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995027,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995025
Use the threaded rod to guide the nuts as close to the bushings as necessary, it'll all come out at the end.","attachment":null,"posted":1714821350},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995029,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"is there a dynamo hub that only engages when you are coasting?","attachment":null,"posted":1714822319},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995030,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Which type of anti seize can I get at the hardware store to prevent my aluminium seatpost from sticking to my steel frame? Copper based? Nickel?","attachment":null,"posted":1714822667},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995031,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995030
either one, or just grease. it's really not a very demanding application. anti-seize is a fucking mess and i hate it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714823529},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995032,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995030
grease.
Anti-seize should really be used on critical aluminum to steel interface.
I use it on freewheels, stubborn threaded bb's, and bottle cage bolts if the frame is aluminum.
Realistically grease could be used for all of these if you ride your bike more then once a year.","attachment":null,"posted":1714823794},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995033,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995031
>>1995032
thanks. I unseized mine just a while ago with hot water. I want to ride early this morning but I don't have grease lying around. Surely it won't stick right away or should I use chain lube or something?","attachment":null,"posted":1714825315},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995034,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995033
just make sure it's all cleaned up. you'll be fine for a ride for sure.","attachment":null,"posted":1714825397},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995042,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994921
bike fit advice trying to recitfy a singly symptom can very often have greater negative impact somewhere else along the chain.
What type of bicycle is it or if you know, thats the current tread width ? Do your knees either track in towards the top tube or out at the top of the stroke ? Since youre on flats (with no retention !?) where do you instinctively place your foot to contact the pedal, which oart of the foot feels 'right' to you to oush through ?
Also try different shoes.","attachment":null,"posted":1714831030},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995043,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994931
I live in the alpine area. It's definately 'hilly'. I run 48/17 most of the time and my daily commute is 32 km one way. And I'm not the only one in the area running fixed most of the time.
Anons who think hilly areas and fixed don't match probably shy away from all sorts of challenges, have no ass and no quads.
You can always get a lower ratio if you're not fit. This will not only enable you to climb steeper at acceptable cadence it will also enable you to descend steeper inclines without relying on brakes.
Fixed gear bikes are no different from other bikes, if any a bit simpler. As such you won't have quality issues if you get a reputable brand bike.
Do make sure to run a front brake. One day you'll just be too exhausted to skid after giving it the beans or something and choose to just wing it et voila. First completely avoidable crash.","attachment":null,"posted":1714831398},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995056,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995043
Is this a copypasta? I can't believe you haven't utterly destroyed your knees and joints. I don't know which alps you are talking about, but there cities are usually in the valley and the flattest you could find. I live in a hilly area where cities are really on hills, and I ride normal modern bikes. I lived in super flat cities, used fixed and 3 speeds and hated it.
So don't listen to this man from 20 years ago. Choose freedom, choose gears.","attachment":null,"posted":1714840284},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995067,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995056
Towns here tend to be on the hillside, on the slope and you have to go across hills and ridges to go places anyways. Naturally only the fewest roads here are passes and infrastructure has developed to follow the path of least resistance, which usually is next to the streams along the valleys and around the mountains.
My knees used to be chronically hurt for years but that was when I only road derailleur and IGH. Fixed was a thing I tried because of my knees and while fixed was not part of the solution I liked it and stuck with it for daily commuting.
Town in my area are definately not flat.","attachment":null,"posted":1714848096},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995043
if you want a challenge, you should still run gears. 11-25 cassette and 54-40+ chainrings and you can challenge yourself all the way.","attachment":null,"posted":1714870292},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995043
This is some quality cope","attachment":null,"posted":1714872110},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995114,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995100
This is a good compromise. Biggest thing is make sure the friction shifter is tight enough. I noticed some chain sounds while standing up big hills since the bike flexes back and forth.
A rider can always experiment single speed/fixed later, or 13 speed electronic shifting later too.","attachment":null,"posted":1714882865},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995147,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995043
This is your mind on fixie
Riding a geared bike makes hills easier in the same way that mountain biking with suspension makes it easier than rigid, or hiking with a backpack makes it easier than a shopping bad
You're just using the wrong too for the job and think you're tough for it.","attachment":null,"posted":1714907350},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995153,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">fit issue
I have shoulder pain on my gravel bike. I can't pinpoint the cause. It's imminent pain and soreness when I get up on the bike. My guess is that the bike is too big, even though I'm supposed to be an M or 54cm,
>5'10 / 33'' or 178/83 cm
>current bike is merida silex 400 M
>stack and reach are 625/400 mm, 80mm stem.
>I put on a 70mm stem, same issue
>it's difficult to engage core and lower back on the bike
>I feel like all my weight rests on my shoulders
>shoulders feel "scrunched"","attachment":null,"posted":1714913086},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995155,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995153
Might wanna check how your levers are angled. Tweaking that will affect the angle your shoulders sit at to bring your arm to the bar.","attachment":null,"posted":1714913736},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995166,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995153
not an expert, fit and anatomy it's still a mistery to me
-this looks like a nice relaxed bike, but still, you're supposed to get down there. Maybe you're just not used to that.
-try tilting your saddle a bit upwards
-send back that 70mm and get the shortest you can find at 35. then you can see if bike it's too big or not
- >>1995155 nice advice try also that, or tilting a bit your whole handlebar","attachment":null,"posted":1714918461},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995169,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995153
Try a riser stem, like a serious 25 degree rise and make it short. If you find out that say a 30mm stem fits fine you know either the bike is somehow too long, you have really short arms+torso for your height, or something else.
You can try going nose up with the saddle a little too. Generally that puts a little more pressure on your taint then your hands.
main issue will always be it's hard to convey the exact pain you are having over the internet, and we can't even see you on the bike. You need to try things, and figure out what options you have.
I found when my bars were too low I stayed on the tops only and sat the bar in my fingers, not my hands. When it was too far and low I never went to the hoods and rounded my lower back, extended my shoulders forward, and damn near locked my arms out.","attachment":null,"posted":1714919627},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995178,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995147
No. No one here thinks they are 'tough' for riding fixed. It appears much rather that you have not understood the appeal of fixed gears, perhaps because for you personally it doesn't do anything, who knows.
On a side note your strawman doesn't hold up too well either. I'd be on a electrically assisted 'bicycle', it would be the right tool for the job, combining absolute ease of use, adequate speed, the best lifetime enviroental impact and so on. But you can always invent and use a newer more optimised tool for any job. But there is reasons why people increasingly refuse to do so. You may not associate with those and ride an 'e-bike' because of purely objective reasons. That's fine with me. But some people simply base their decisions on things that go beyond purely objective reasoning.","attachment":null,"posted":1714923869},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995181,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995178
You've been called out and your wall of seethe only confirms it","attachment":null,"posted":1714924363},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995185,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995181
Not an argument. Try again.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714925262370989.jpg","filename":"1714866832469457.jpg"},"posted":1714925262},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995186,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995178
It's better to understand some people just don't like different things. Until they ride one, or get used to accepting things that are harder can be okay they won't change.","attachment":null,"posted":1714925319},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995193,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"has anyone used something like a motorcycle headlight paired with an 18650 battery pack with a 12v controller? it seems like a 12w 12v bulb would just kinda suck them dry pretty quickly.
i just remember someone posting in the light thread about having a lamp with an auxiliary battery pack and having success with it, just no idea which one or what it was.
>dynamo
eventually. they're expensive.","attachment":null,"posted":1714930355},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How to remove bitch stickers glue from the frame without scratching it? No, I'm not going to order a sticker removal spray, I need a solution NOW. Thank you anon in advance, I know you have a solution.","attachment":null,"posted":1714944494},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995235
what the hell are bitch stickers? the UCI thing on the seat tube? I just leave it there, I didn't think they come off actually","attachment":null,"posted":1714944884},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995236
It does not matter if you would leave them on. The stickers have small picture of them being removed hence I'm removing them, they are ugly, there's several of them, and they have best adhesive the world have seen so far.","attachment":null,"posted":1714945355},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995238,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995236
The picture got lost
https://files.catbox.moe/24mcxc.jpg","attachment":null,"posted":1714945438},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995239,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995235
New razor blade and go slow. You'll most certainly need sticker removal spray to get the residue off.","attachment":null,"posted":1714945686},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995241,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995193
>dynamo
get the shimano front hub dynamo, any of those
hook any front and rear light combo by a reputable brand to it
you're golden ever after, occassionally either light may fail and need replacing or fucking with the PCB (needed to replace diodes on the last two rears I had also blew a cap once)","attachment":null,"posted":1714946015},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995242,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995236
>>1995239
There's also those all over the rims, they are made out of some sort of paper and leave nasty adhesive that I can't remove with water or alcohol https://files.catbox.moe/bf99qh.jpg
I don't know what retard in Cube thought it's a nice touch.","attachment":null,"posted":1714946161},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995245,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995242
This is common with all but the most generic cheapo disposable junk wheels because it can be next to impossible to tell what wheel you're looking at and bike companies will often swap different wheelsets on the same model, it's easy to remove and it also makes it easier to tell what you're looking at when it's not a prestige wheel like a campy where you can tell from 100 feet away what brand it is even if there's no sticker
Alexrims isn't anything fancy but it's better than the worst junk so of course there's going to be stickers on it announcing that you got a bike that has better than the worst possible wheels","attachment":null,"posted":1714948082},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995248,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995245
It's Cube Hyde Race in case you wanted to know. I removed the stickers from one side of one wheel, not the adhesive though. Tomorrow I will go and but this fucking adhesive removal spray because it's seems there's no way around it. I also tried gasoline and WD40, both didn't help.","attachment":null,"posted":1714949639},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995268,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994513
I’m going from 160/160 to 203/180 and the rear 180 adapter with the included bolts interferes with the caliper
So I used an M6 with no on thread washer and ground it down a little to clear, but these are 10mm bolts instead of the longer normal brake bolts
Is this going to kill me?
Pic is the black original brake bolts and the bolt I’m using on the caliper","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714959355984546.jpg","filename":"IMG_2746.jpg"},"posted":1714959355},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995269,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995268
I can’t just use the original bolt and shave that down because of the non removable washer on the bolt, it’s too tall, if I ground one down with that washer there I’d be taking off half the head","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714959448021119.jpg","filename":"IMG_2745.jpg"},"posted":1714959448},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995271,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995268
>>1995269
I have no idea but I'm monitoring for answers as I have a bike with a 140mm rear rotor that irritates me because it's asymmetrical","attachment":null,"posted":1714961171},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995281,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994513
want to start ridding bikes again on some local trails/parks. Something ive been intrested in is buying a older road bike for the 100ish dollar range. Never ridden a road bike before, anything i should know.","attachment":null,"posted":1714964274},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995293,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995235
use wd40 or olive oil for the residue","attachment":null,"posted":1714971976},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995300,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Does this saddle angle seem a bit fucked up? All the Brooks C17s I see online either have the nose flat, or level to the tail. If I try either I slip forward constantly. This angle does keep me stable, but causes other discomfort. I'm wondering if my ass is just not well shaped for this saddle.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714978157595117.jpg","filename":"IMG_5963.jpg"},"posted":1714978157},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995304,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995281
How old are we talking? The biggest fuckup I've seen with people buying second hand road bikes is buying bikes that don't fit them, with the stem cut far to aggressively for their flexibility/fitness. My first road bike was a low end 80s bike I got from the dump to learn how to rebuild bikes and I really just lucked out on getting a frame that fit me properly.
When you get a bike that's correctly sized and adjusted for you, you may find that the saddle doesn't fit well. Being in a more leant over position for longer periods means that the saddle has to be just right, otherwise your cock and balls goes numb and your ass hurts. The saddle you get with the bike may not fit you, and you may have to go through a few to find one that does. You'll also need knicks (bike shorts) or bike underwear that goes under your shorts, depending on your vibe. Don't fall for the full kit (lycra) meme unless you really want that aesthetic, it's not that important for a casual rider.","attachment":null,"posted":1714978849},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995307,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995300
yeah, saddles should generally be flat. judging how your bars are angled up, your reach might be a little long which, ime, can attribute to the sliding forward. if you have some shorter reach bars maybe try those (hassle, i know) since the reach on those looks long as hell.","attachment":null,"posted":1714979556},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995308,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995307
Yeah you might be right there, I was having a lot of arm and shoulder pain, something I didn't have with a different frame. I'll see what options I have. I did previously run the bike with the stem flipped, which would effectively reduce the reach a bit. I'll give that a crack, and look at bar and stem options too. Cheers mate.","attachment":null,"posted":1714979796},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995312,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995241
yeah, i guess the alfine hubs are on sale for 65 bucks. are there really no external buffer battery systems as opposed to ones that are built into the light itself? a lot of them seem kinda...bad when it comes to flickering even at constant speeds. i know tail lights are pretty low draw, but is 3w even enough to power both a rear and front light that is sufficiently bright enough for pitch black roads?
i was thinking hub to passthrough rechargeable batteries to lights, but it seems like anyone who is doing this is just converting ac to dc and running a higher voltage dc light, which is kind of convoluted. i dunno.","attachment":null,"posted":1714988254},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995313,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995269
It's fine. As long as you can undo the bolt later, and you have close to the same amount of threads going into your frame, since the threads are what is doing the holding and resisting the caliper adapter yeeting itself out of there.
>>1995281
All I can say is do your research on sizing, and if you are getting a rideable bike(not fixer upper) then ride it around for 10 minutes or so.
It will feel weird to ride compared to a hybrid/mtb. Stick with it, and if something still hurts after 250-500miles the fit needs to be adjusted.
Let us know your height, and inseam to give a rough estimate of what size you will need.","attachment":null,"posted":1714988618},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995314,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995300
I bought a C17 recently and it’s not completely flat. I had also had to slightly angle the nose which makes it look a bit strange from the front one.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714988800236298.jpg","filename":"IMG_1962.jpg"},"posted":1714988800},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995324,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995312
all the lights I have used so far were completely acceptable regarding flicker. At most they would only ever flicker when slowly pushing the bike after it has been stationary for quite some time. You can always piggyback something on this basic installation that does whatever for you but more often than not it adds ghetto aesthetics. On my daily I have the cheap shimano hub, always some fuxon or similar brand front and rear and currently a Kemo USB charger so I can top up my devices when not needing lights.
Maybe check Scholtens website for inspiration, if you can stand THAT amount of tism.","attachment":null,"posted":1714993001},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995327,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995300
I'm going to get dunked on for this but it sounds to me like you're outrgrowing brooks. They're training wheels for saddles, once you have a basic idea of what you're doing you realize they seem "forgiving" because it's basically impossible to set them up properly so anything is as good (or bad) as anything else.","attachment":null,"posted":1714995978},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995370,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994513
Hello people.
I start college next year and want a bike to commute. Do you recommend any particular city (hybrid?) bike around 500 euros? I have used bikes all my life and know basic maintenance/ got tools. However i have no idea about the market.
Thanks in advance.","attachment":null,"posted":1715011909},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995372,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995370
cross post harder
>>>1995371","attachment":null,"posted":1715013458},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995376,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995372
will you call the police on me little fucking faggot?","attachment":null,"posted":1715015104},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995387,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995376
degenerate. Go buy a car.","attachment":null,"posted":1715020319},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm getting a new do-it-all bike and I'm undecided on GRX 1x vs 2x. I have a 2x system but terrain is so flat here I don't need most gears. Hell I have never used the smaller 30T chainring.
I haven't ridden 1x so I don't know how it feels. I have a fear of missing out I guess.","attachment":null,"posted":1715042159},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995453,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995437
>Hell I have never used the smaller 30T chainring
>I haven't ridden 1x so I don't know how it feels
Really makes you think. 2x offers smaller tooth jumps and a little higher top end while 1x is nice for its simplicity. Imo it doesn't really matter that much but I'm not autistic with strong opinions
t. Rides and owns both","attachment":null,"posted":1715049258},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995454,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995437
I would stick with 2x, mostly because 2x has less cross chaining in the big ring+smaller cogs. If it's really flat I suspect you stay in the 46 or large cog, then go from the middle of the cassette to the 12 or 11 cog.
If you mostly ride in the middle of the cassette then 1x would have less cross chaining, but generally those bikes come with wider cassettes which is not what you want for high speed flat riding.
However both work fine.","attachment":null,"posted":1715050597},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995466,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This probably isn't the best place to ask this but I might as well ask
I'm wanting to get an ebike so I can have a way to travel. I don't really need a car since the town I live in is small and there's no way in hell I can afford a car.
My price range is about 1000-2000 dollars (CAN). I want something that can carry a small amount of groceries, has a long descent battery charge, and can handle drizzles.","attachment":null,"posted":1715057092},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995469,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995466
slap on a bafang motor to a 90s steel bike and live on the edge","attachment":null,"posted":1715057822},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995525,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How to remove this fucking nut without paying 40-50€ for the tool? And also how to assemble it back?
https://files.catbox.moe/oeuysz.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/o61lt0.jpg","attachment":null,"posted":1715084041},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995526,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995525
3D print a tool
https://m.yeggi.com/q/shimano+center+lock+tool+by/
Done this for my threaded BB and was suprised how much force it can take","attachment":null,"posted":1715084425},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995527,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995526
So either need to buy a 3D printer or a 40 bucks tool?","attachment":null,"posted":1715084630},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995529,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995525
>https://files.catbox.moe/oeuysz.jpg
channellocks/vice grip
Or just get a cheap chinese bb tool that fits","attachment":null,"posted":1715085300},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995531,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995466
there's an ebike thread. check the catalog","attachment":null,"posted":1715085622},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995533,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995529
>Or just get a cheap chinese bb tool that fits
That's what I just did. A week of waiting and not working on my bicycle...","attachment":null,"posted":1715085974},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995536,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995531
Oh, thank you","attachment":null,"posted":1715087129},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995574,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995525
>>1995533
Dude wait don't strip the thing or your fucked. I suppose you bought a chinese thingy all in one.
Instead buy one like picrel where you can fit both a wrench or 1/2 inch thingy, then you get the longest lever you can apply, be sure to engage the tool well by pushing it thight on the nut, and It should go. YOu can get an ice toolz for 15 euro on amazon, or you can get a chinese one for 5-10 euro, as long as it is for a wrench.
Then once you get it out, I suggest buying an inner centerlock ring, it works better and it uses a normal cassette tool","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715098367636387.png","filename":"shopping.png"},"posted":1715098367},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995575,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995437
well just get a 1x crank with the same tooth as your biggest current chainring then","attachment":null,"posted":1715098590},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995578,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995574
Well I've already ordered this thingy, it says has to fit TL-FC36 unless it's another chinese trickery and I fucked it up.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715099872901634.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_2024-05-07-18-36-16-75_57e717c094f371a1dada6567a1123b99.jpg"},"posted":1715099872},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995579,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995578
that's for a hollowtech bottom brackets, the tool anon posted is for a sealed unit square taper BB.","attachment":null,"posted":1715100851},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995581,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995578
well that's exactly the kind of tool I was advising you against lol. good luck anyway it could still work just try to press it firmly. but be careful if it's stuck you're not getting anywhere, that thing looks short","attachment":null,"posted":1715101120},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995582,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995579
it's the same thing, hollowtech II or centerlock (outer ring) is the same tool.
But with the tool I posted you can get better engagement because you can fit a long wrench or socket wrench","attachment":null,"posted":1715101251},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"you could just wrap an old innertube around the nut and get it off with channelock pliers. spray some penetrating oil on it, smack it with a rubber mallet or piece of wood or something, and let it sit for 24 hours. the bike needs to be firmly mounted for this to work, so you need to straddle it, or have a friend hold it while you torque. dont bother with a bike stand, or vise, as you'll get too much flex.","attachment":null,"posted":1715103370},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995684,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995304
not to old, trying to find local options on facebook marketplace. Trying to get this schwin for around 100.
>>1995313
5' 10", 30"
Some of the local listings have people at least confirming their height to be around 5'10"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715132619286815.jpg","filename":"438313298_414635364541772_3746392256654759767_n.jpg"},"posted":1715132619},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995525
if you live in a city there's probably a community bike place you can go to and just use their tool for free","attachment":null,"posted":1715132865},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"when I spin my front wheel i feel a faint vibration but theres no play and it spins forever. its a cup and cone road bike hub, could the cones be too tight or is that fine?","attachment":null,"posted":1715148899},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995716,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995715
Have you tried with it off the bike? Lay the axle on your outstretched fingers and give it a spin, it’ll be a lot easier to tell if there’s any hitches cause it’ll try to roll forwards. If it only happens on the bike the wheel might be a touch untrue.","attachment":null,"posted":1715149081},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995717,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995684
Man that’s a beautiful colour, I hope it works out for you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715149187},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995737,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Someone please recommend me a crankset and bb for my shimano 1x11 build. My frame needs a 73mm bb and the hub has a 44mm chainline, so something 44-46mm would be optimal I guess, but hard to find.
Been looking at 40-42t chainrings, but doesn’t need to come with one","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715159234524731.jpg","filename":"D792SB-X12.jpg"},"posted":1715159234},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995743,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995737
I don't know this kind of thing make my brain tilt.
Unless someone comes around with a suggestion for a spacer on your cassette, my suggestion is to get a cheaper shimano mt501 rear hub, but I guess you want a iso disc brake...
There's also the possibility that this chainline difference doesn't really matter in a 1x","attachment":null,"posted":1715162100},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995745,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995684
Schwinn looks fine for 100. Maybe a little large in the stack/headset height but that's fine for a new rider.
At your height and inseam anything from a modern 54-56 will probably fit. Maybe a 58 if you like being on a bigger bike.
For vintage steel 56-58 would be the biggest and you can run smaller frames into the 53 or 52 size most likely, or smaller.
GLHF
>>1995715
If you have never greased it and adjusted it look into that. If you just greased it and it's adjusted right you really have a couple options. Replacing ball bearings, replacing cones after inspection, or leaving it till it gets worse.","attachment":null,"posted":1715163511},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1995976,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995300
I don't see how you could slip forward when the saddle is flat. Have you considered that maybe your saddle is a tad high and you're subconsciously shifting forward to reach round the pedal stroke more easily? Playing with saddle forward/back adjustment might also do something useful.","attachment":null,"posted":1715253769},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996036,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Can someone explain suspension adjusted forks to me?
I have a hardtail that I would like to get some rigid forks, but have no idea what to look for.","attachment":null,"posted":1715287702},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996044,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996036
It’s a rigid fork that is as long as an appropriate-size suspension fork, and thus you can swap your suspension fork for this specific-length rigid one and not change geometry (or more like, lock your fork at one arbitrary point of geometry)","attachment":null,"posted":1715290369},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996057,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995976
I’ve set the height based on the heel technique, it should be good but I might also try an inseam-based calculator and get a second opinion. The saddle is as far forward as it goes, which gets my knee in line with the pedal spindle. I’m going out for a shorter ride tomorrow with a focus on dialing the fit in, so I’ll see how I go. Thanks for the help.","attachment":null,"posted":1715295353},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996065,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995300
you might be slipping because your hoods are set very low, bring them back and up, then adjust your saddle angle so it's level. Your reach in the drops might also be too low and/or far, you can flip your stem so it points up instead of down to alleviate that. Your fit looks fucked ngl, the photo angle and non-straight fork make the problems seem worse than it should be probably though, still your fit is fucked.","attachment":null,"posted":1715297487},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996069,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996065
The position of the hoods isn’t unusual for aero hoods on classic shaped deep drops, plus since they aren’t brifters they don’t have the same shape and that kinda fucks people up. I agree that photo looks pretty fucked up, I’ve also got this one which has a better angle, but the stand raises the rear wheel a few inches, making it harder to tell. If I wasn’t at work I’d take something better.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715300345277007.jpg","filename":"IMG_5911.jpg"},"posted":1715300345},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996089,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996069
I can see you
Besides that your setup looks fine, You could roll the bars up/hoods up and see if that helps or maybe move the saddle a little forward to see if you stop wanting to move forward.","attachment":null,"posted":1715308041},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996105,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995153
I figured it out I think. Handlebars are way too high, which makes me push with my hands and shoulders. I raised my saddle and lowered the handlebars which helped somewhat. I can't lower them anymore. drop is now 5cm, I had handlebars level with the saddle before. I tested a 90mm stem with lowered bars and my shoulders felt great but I got lower back pain immediately.
this is my first dropbar bike and I was memed into making it upright and relaxed.","attachment":null,"posted":1715317051},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996155,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996105
I kept getting hand pain in my right hand but only in the hoods. kept micro adjusting the clamp. turns out I have permanent pain in my hand there but my bike is the only thing I grip that stresses the area. it's only otherwise noticable when I press it with my left thumb.
oh well, the adjustments helped a lot anyway","attachment":null,"posted":1715355102},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996158,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996105
>>1996155
>my hoods aren't too low, they need to be lower!
>my hands hurt but it's not because of my hoods
I'm going to tell you again, you're slipping forwards because your bars are too low and your arms aren't long enough for your fit so when your saddle is leveled, you're slipping forward putting all your pressure on that part of your hands. Moving your bars lower against what I suggested is what will lead you to even more permanent wrist damage","attachment":null,"posted":1715355381},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996159,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996158
you know what, it might not be that your bars are too low but your bars might be too far forward, either or, your fit looks fucked and taking a picture with the bike on the stand to raise the rear doesn't help your case","attachment":null,"posted":1715355511},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996162,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996155
Don't listen to the unracers and wannabe bike fitters and slam that stem","attachment":null,"posted":1715355613},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996163,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996158
I'm (>>1996155) not him, I'm just commiserating","attachment":null,"posted":1715355762},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996164,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996162
Slow down there race-ist! This is NOT a race!","attachment":null,"posted":1715355997},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996167,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How bad are those? Can't find it being tested on ytube, and also can't find how it's called in english.","attachment":null,"posted":1715356313},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996168,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996167","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715356385841491.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_2024-05-10-17-50-27-02_4641ebc0df1485bf6b47ebd018b5ee76.jpg"},"posted":1715356385},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996169,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996167
Horrific. So bad the picture can't even be shown on your post.","attachment":null,"posted":1715356404},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996172,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996168
No joke those are actually bad. Not much better then a generic cable lock.
Would be okay if you are going to a cafe and in for 5-10 minutes in a nice neighborhood.
In the ghetto I would get a shitbike that's nasty and lock that up with 1-2 d locks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715356526},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996176,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Good morning ladies. The youtube algo is memeing me hard on frame upgrades, I feel like my whole bike is at a point where the frame is the weakest link, should I fall for it or just transfer everything to my brokerage account except a couple thousand so I don't do something irresponsible. Don't tell me to buy the frame. It would be dumb right?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715358306569056.jpg","filename":"girl.jpg"},"posted":1715358306},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996197,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996168
The problem with those is that they look rather beefy. If you push two of the links apart you'll see that the whole construction is held together and depends on a single strand of really low diameter (maybe 6mm or so) wire cable. That's everything you have to cut through (oh and the plastic cover yeah).","attachment":null,"posted":1715371941},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996216,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996158
You’re talking to someone else, there are multiple people here talking about about fit.
I’ve adjusted the stem and leveled the bars off a bit further, and switch to a saddle that I’ve had more experience with. Going on a ride soon, so I’ll see how I go. I’ll probably end up doing the reddit thing and getting a bike fit, trying to do this over photos on 4chan is a bit of a flawed system. Either way, I appreciate everyone’s advice, thank you.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715376449737219.jpg","filename":"IMG_5995.jpg"},"posted":1715376449},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996223,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996216
>3 bolt crank
are you the guy who got that from bluelug? you built that frame up? I don't know if VO even sells complete bikes. anyway, it's cool. not wild about the color, but it's a nice bike. the frame is their version of a sport-tourer?","attachment":null,"posted":1715378664},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996236,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996223
The crankset is a Dia-compe Chainwheel, 48-34. Decent crankset and polishes easily.
The frame is the VO Rando. Meant for rando rides I guess. Takes a front rack and fenders, but only realistically takes a 32c, 25 with fenders. Probably my only real complaint. The colour changes with the light, somewhere between a mustard colour in diffused light all the way to a sparkly gold under direct sunlight. I would have picked a different colour given the option, but I like it. I bought and built it up from parts I had on my old Panasonic frame, with the goal of copying the fit. Didn’t quite work out as planned, but I’m still enjoying riding it so far.","attachment":null,"posted":1715382568},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996237,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996236
ah, there was a guy here that bought a similar unbranded crank from bluelug, he hypothesized that they had them made by diacompe","attachment":null,"posted":1715382996},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996264,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Any gear hub and belt enjoyers here? What should I know about it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715388566},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996265,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996264
I heard those things drip everywhere and the "clean" factor is exaggerated. Personally I'm thrilled over having jumped on the chain wax bandwagon","attachment":null,"posted":1715389112},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996266,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996237
A lot of velo orange and riv stuff is made by dia compe too, so I think that’s a fair assessment. I got mine from Amazon Japan.","attachment":null,"posted":1715389285},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996270,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996265
Can't drip if there's no oil in it. Use grease instead and laugh in Shimano's face.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715390731661075.png","filename":"71680-emoticon-reddit-sticker-pepe-frog-pol-the.png"},"posted":1715390731},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996279,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996216
Good news, big improvements. While increasing bar height helped, it wasn’t the only fix. I found that in my natural saddle position, my sit bones were at the front on the wing, about the place they should be. Rather than slipping forwards, my thighs were pulling me forward as I peddled. When I’d pull further back, I’d adjust my pelvis angle, moving the part of the sit bones in contact with the saddle. That made me suspicious that I actually needed the saddle back further. So I knocked it back a few milimeters and the difference was substantial. Pain pretty much gone and my core is activating better. Rode with it like that for 2.5hr and it went well, maybe I’ll made some more tweaks in coming rides. Still some aches and pains to work on, I suspect many to do with my lack of fitness.
Thanks to all anons who helped me out.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715396684247174.jpg","filename":"IMG_6009.jpg"},"posted":1715396684},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996280,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Spent all day not wanting to ride my bike and then I forced myself to ride my bike but I only lasted 45 minutes before I got all tired so I went home and showered and now it’s 10pm and I do wanna ride my bike","attachment":null,"posted":1715397463},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996288,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996279
Interesting observation, I need to adjust the setback on my saddle too
>>1996280
I sometimes get in that mood and when I force myself, I'm always glad I do unless it like suddenly rains or something lol","attachment":null,"posted":1715401838},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996314,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Dumb question but any good info on bike maintenance in terms of cleaning/washing it?
On an old beater bike i would just take it to a car wash and shoot it up with water gun, but now that I got a nicer bike I am super wary of getting water into wrong places.","attachment":null,"posted":1715421987},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996315,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996264
No gear hub but I sometimes ride a belt bike. It's somehow more quiet then a normal single speed bike which is odd, and cogs/belts have different standards which can be kinda funky.
>>1996314
Just don't use high pressure on areas with grease. Use low pressure unless you got the bike really muddy.","attachment":null,"posted":1715422740},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996318,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996314
Sponge and bucket with hot water and mild dish soap. Something more brushy for drivetrain and tires. Then a light drizzle with a garden hose gun to wash grime and soap, dry with clean towel.","attachment":null,"posted":1715423849},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996337,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996314
picrel on the frame and fork
ISP on the brake calipers and derailleurs
boiling water on the chain followed by a nice simmer in paraffin tungsten disulfide soup
nothing on the gears because they don't get dirty","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715434394628457.jpg","filename":"71Dcjn2kztL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg"},"posted":1715434394},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996339,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I bought the wrong cassette for my bike trainer. It is 11-42t while the one on my bike is 11-46t. Is the cassette being smaller on the trainer going to cause issues with the chain? Am I better off exchanging it?","attachment":null,"posted":1715437136},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996340,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996339
Should be good.","attachment":null,"posted":1715437308},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996368,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996236
are you going to be able to source 3 bolt replacement rings? presumably dia compe makes them but you'll have to order them from Japan. I've never noticed any on the US market . those are cool cranks at a good price but I'd be wary of replacement rings plus shipping costing like $100","attachment":null,"posted":1715447353},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996373,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996279
nice one.
I had an opposite experience. I'm pretty tall so without really checking, I went ahead and got a long setback post and put the saddle all the way back because I'm tall, I need reach, right?
as you all reading this are aware, this was totally wrong. rode for years like that, although luckily it didn't put me in any pain. I actually fucked the post up from all the rearward leverage (I had milled some material off to fit my archaic seat tube diameter and I fucking bent it lol) but I ended up replacing it with a cheap, normal setback post and finally started really experimenting with it. turns out -- duh -- I needed the saddle more mid front and the resulting slack in my legs meant I raised it like crazy, maybe more than an inch.
can really feel the difference in power transfer and in handling, more nimble and intuitive body movement .
live and learn.","attachment":null,"posted":1715448371},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996380,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996314
thirding just drizzle water from the hose to initially wet it down and then rinse. you get the dirt off by soapy cloth and brush, not blasting it with water. you don't want water getting into anything that falling rainwater wouldn't touch.
mild soap. you can put car wax on it if you want, it'll stay nice longer and be easier to clean thereafter. I even waxed the finish on my brake calipers. they look silver but actually it's a champagne powder coat finish on them. lots of components have similar finishes.
I have a whole separate set of rags and a drivetrain-specific brush I use on the chain and gear clusters. don't forget your pulley wheels on rear derailleur, they're often plastic and accumulate the most gunk. press a rag on one side and reverse the crank, then move the rag, repeat until not leaving gunk marks, then press the other side. do the chainrings the same way. when cassette is gunky I drizzle water, flush with solvent, and use my Park thin, stiff brush between the gears, also there's a hook thing on it that scrapes the innermost surface., drizzle water, repeat if needed. also, pic related every once in a while especially if you ride in rain/puddles/mud.
chain cleaning and lubing is important but there's a million opinions about what is the right way so I'll leave you to that on your own.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715449442285764.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_20211118-110808.jpg"},"posted":1715449442},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996381,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996339
worst case scenario you might have to remove one chain link but if you don't notice any issues when shifting I wouldn't fuck with it. if you do notice it, possibly just turning the B screw and/or barrel adjuster could be enough","attachment":null,"posted":1715449650},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996403,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996368
I’m worried about this too. They have the 36t on Amazon Japan, but that’s it. Probably available somewhere else but I’ll have to figure that out.","attachment":null,"posted":1715463547},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996407,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996314
>>1996380
you can also "floss" between the cassette gears if it's not heavily gunked up, which is easy and quick, compared with the deep clean . can even do it with the wheel on the bike with chain, if slightly awkward","attachment":null,"posted":1715465913},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996407
>floss
*with a rag edge","attachment":null,"posted":1715465975},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996419,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How to not get sore arms in aero tuck?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715471645456267.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240511-195256.png"},"posted":1715471645},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996420,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996419
workout your upper body you freaking twig.","attachment":null,"posted":1715472358},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996423,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What tires would you guys recommend for a MTB that's mainly used for paved roads but hits the occasional loose gravel/off road, no actual MTB courses though.
IIRC I used to see some mentions of Schwalbe green marathon, not sure if these are ideal for my situation but are they a decent choice?
Never had to buy tires before
Picked up a second hand bike and while the tires were okay last year now they're really starting to show their age","attachment":null,"posted":1715476789},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996425,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996423
Whatever has low tread, or is recommended for gravel riding.
I like solid center tread tires with some knobs on the side for that use case.
Any recommendations are going to be based on tire size too, so tell us if it's 26, 27.5/650b or 29/700c.","attachment":null,"posted":1715477260},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996426,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996425
I'm like 95% sure it's a 29 but can't check at this exact moment","attachment":null,"posted":1715477620},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996427,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996426
Solid. Many here like the continental race king in 29.
I like the looks of a continental double fighter in 29 x2.0
Or something like a wtb riddler in 700x45
Another good option would be a panaracer gravelking sk.
FYI 700c=29in so 700c tires that are wide can probably fit your bike.
29in is more of a marketing term for mtb's, so you will find cross country to downhill tires in that size. 700c was originally for road bikes, but you can find gravel bike tires that IMO perfect for what your use case is.","attachment":null,"posted":1715478158},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996442,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996426
Buy 700c x 40 in literally whatever tread and be done with it, you don’t have 30mm internal width wheels so you can absolutely get away with 40c","attachment":null,"posted":1715487057},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996455,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996427
>>1996442
I just checked and it's indeed the 29x2.25 Schwalbe Smart Sam, Active that are on there now, with wheelsize 57-622
I'm not sure if this affects any of the recommendations you guys gave","attachment":null,"posted":1715505781},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996463,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996455
700c and 29” are completely interchangeable assuming the tire width isn’t insanely different. Tires labeled 700c will label width in mm, tires labeled 29” will label width in inches. 2 inches equals 50mm. Good luck","attachment":null,"posted":1715512901},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996455
The 622 is the diameter of the bead in mm, it basically is another way to say 700c, which is another way to say 29”, all three labels mean the same thing. The 57 refers to the tire width in mm, should equal 2.25”","attachment":null,"posted":1715512999},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996476,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996464
>>1996463
I'm guessing the diameter is not to be fucked with, aka I should get 29/700/622, but how lenient would the width be?
The continental race king seems to be 55-622/29*2.2, I'm assuming that's close enough that it should work despite reading somewhere you should replace tires with ones that are equal in width. But how about 45 or 40 or 2"? Would that be pushing it?
The double fighter III seems a lot more available locally (Belgium) than the race king and gravelking ones I looked at (20€ vs 50€) at a glance.
Also, time for a really stupid question, I'm guessing these are sold individually not as a pair?","attachment":null,"posted":1715524416},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996480,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996264
belt is pretty nice, i like how silent and maintenance-free it is. as for gear hubs it really depends on the type, nexus 8 is way more efficient than nexus 7 for example, and alfine is generally better than nexus.
personally though i really enjoy going fast and don't mind doing maintenance, and also commute outside of urban areas so ever since i bought a derailleur bike i haven't touched my hub and belt one. but for city or casual use it's pretty great.
>>1996476
please to be consulting the chart saar","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715528513931821.jpg","filename":"reifen-felgenkombination-etrto-22-en.jpg"},"posted":1715528513},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996484,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996476
>these are sold individually not as a pair?
yeah. usually the rear tire with more of your weight on it wears quicker, so it's unusual for them to wear out together. also, people can damage one tire and the other is fine. or a few people like to run different tires front and rear.
so, yeah, they're sold individually. if you're just getting rid of both because you need a tire for a different use case or upgraded performance is the only time you'd replace both at once","attachment":null,"posted":1715532407},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996485,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"My bike's left brake pad is making contact half a second before the right one. Which way should I turn the screw(s) to unfuck this and how much should I turn them by, given that description? I can never ever seem to remember.","attachment":null,"posted":1715532748},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996503,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996485
>turn the screw(s) t
so, v-brakes?
cantilevers?
disc?
what?","attachment":null,"posted":1715540195},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996513,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996485
this type? tighten the screw to distance the pad, loosen it to bring it closer. turn both in opposite directions, a quarter turn at a time until the pads are equidistant from the rim.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715544780358642.png","filename":"bKust.png"},"posted":1715544780},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996519,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996513
Yeah those, it kinda slipped my mind other brakes even exist. Thanks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715548435},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996521,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996423
i got the schwalbe marathon almotion in 55mm and they're great. I can reccomend for 29's on paved road especially they're so smooth it's easy to pick up speed and once they get going they roll forever. i got tubes but you can get em tubeless too. they are still super grippy on gravel and wet tarmac, lil bit of mud or on grass, super puncture resistant, and still comparatively light and durable and cheap too. just love em.","attachment":null,"posted":1715549128},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996522,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996423
>Schwalbe green marathon, not sure if these are ideal for my situation but are they a decent choice
I rode those for many years mostly on road but with frequent gravel and dirt trails, too. mine were 32mm. I liked them. they last forever, too","attachment":null,"posted":1715550014},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996556,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996480
I'm too stupid for the chart, since I don't know inner rim width, it's apparently "CUBE ZX20, 32H", so is that 20mm inner width? Which would then let me do 25 to 63? That seems a bit too lenient no?
>>1996521
How much did you pay? They seem to be 40+ each here","attachment":null,"posted":1715564401},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996557,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996556
That chart might be a little too lenient saying 2.5” can go on 20mm (remember mtb had 2.2” and 2.4” on 21 and 23mm) but yeah you usually have quite a bigger compatible tire range than you might think. 20mm (if that’s what it is) is decidedly small though I wouldn’t recommend mtb tires and surely the frame/fork that came with those narrow wheels wouldn’t have a lot of tire clearance","attachment":null,"posted":1715564829},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996561,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996556
>I'm too stupid for the chart, since I don't know inner rim width
you're not stupid, you're lazy. It's a measurement. You own a ruler or a tape measure right?","attachment":null,"posted":1715566099},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996563,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996561
I mean I don't feel like taking the tires off just to measure only to then have to put them back on , or am I misunderstanding the inner rim part
I find it odd that this pretty important measurement isn't mentioned anywhere I can find, but maybe I'm just being an idiot
>>1996557
Yeah since it came with 2.25"/57mm tires that would've surprised me","attachment":null,"posted":1715566708},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996564,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996563
it almost doesn't matter. The only thing is the larger the tire and a small rim the more "lightbulb" the tire gets. Smaller the tire the more "square" the tire tread will appear.
IMO you can probably fit anything from 32mm to 65mm tires(if your frame can handle them that big). Anything smaller then 32mm doesn't make sense anyways for road riding on a mtb, while too big is the same for light off road/mostly road riding.
Also, if you run high pressures the large tire+small rim is fine. It's when you run in the 10's or low 20's(psi) off road that it can be an issue.","attachment":null,"posted":1715567196},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996565,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996563
Well you’re saying you want road to light gravel range so I think gravel size tires (35-45mm) would be an ideal option for that and will probably fit on whatever inner rim width you do have. Road-correct spec is actually using 25mm rim with 32mm tires so I don’t think 40mm gravel tires would be too narrow even if you had say 27mm width (I’ve ran 40mm tires on 27mm rims actually, the 25mm rim felt better though)","attachment":null,"posted":1715567282},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996568,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996563
yeah, as i said, you're not being an idiot, you're being lazy. Taking a tire on and off would take you 5 minutes, less time than you've spent online on this by far. The way to work it out is to measure. It's the same as tire clearance for a frameset. Even if you research such things the measurements can change between the same model over different years.
Just saying as we're discussing it. It's actually not that important because the acceptable range is huge, larger than the charts even, and people tend to replace tires with similar tires.
It may come as a shock to you but working on bikes is not something you do with your keyboard.
As for which tires to buy, your preferences and budget are so generic, uninformed and bland that what you choose is practically meaningless and the discussion of it is neither helpful for you or interesting for us.","attachment":null,"posted":1715567603},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996569,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I do enjoy bickering though","attachment":null,"posted":1715567666},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996570,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996564
I agree with 32mm minimum, I have a gravel bike with 32’s and a pure road bike with 25’s, and even on road rides the 25’s just don’t make sense anymore. The narrow tires do accelerate better from a stop/slow for sure, they feel less “mushy” maybe, but it’s just not stable enough to really crank out the watts without regard for pebbles or sand","attachment":null,"posted":1715567687},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996586,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996570
I rode 25s the other day on a new modern road bike with the wide disc rims and the feel of 25s are totally different vs 25s on a 19mm internal rim","attachment":null,"posted":1715579936},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996591,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996570
Yeah I run some old steel bikes with 25's or 23's, but those bikes are not as stiff, I run more weight on my hands/less on the bum, and I have a comfy seat on one.
I like having the different aspects and experience of different tire sizes. The narrow ones at 100+psi are "zippy" and feel really fast on smooth terrain, while the 32's just ROLL through normal/bumpy stuff.","attachment":null,"posted":1715582450},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996601,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996586
>checks rim, 19mm
I’ll have to take your word for it since there’s no way in hell I’m buying modern wheels for my $500 2011 bargain carbon road bike but that is interesting to know, my gravel bike does have top-tier XC MTB carbon rims laced 28h that advertise compliance (frame is stiff as fuck touring steel “gravel” though) so that could be part of why it’s so nice. I do love tubeless though and I’m worried how it would do with narrower than 32mm tires","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715586320480754.jpg","filename":"7942D253-273F-467E-815C-19D807F1E4BA.jpg"},"posted":1715586320},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996607,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996556
Yeah 35 yuros each I think. It's cheap dude. these are quality, supple, foldable, durable tires.","attachment":null,"posted":1715590700},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996624,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Rubber handlegrips on my flat bar tend to move out a little bit every time I ride, probably because instead of regularly gripping it I tend to rest my inner palm on the edges of the bar.
Any easy way to fix the rubber grip without gluing it or using zipties? I tried to change the way I rest my arms but on longer rides I always end up doing the same. I should probably change to drop bar at some stage but whatever.","attachment":null,"posted":1715595051},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996626,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996624
it's a grip quality/design/installation issue. It really shouldn't be influent how you keep your hands.
There's not much you can do really, hair spray or alcohol are neat solutions but they really work only on good quality grips. I like ESI grips. Before switching to drop bars you could also try some grips with screws.","attachment":null,"posted":1715596034},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996632,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996568
Sorry you think I'm shitting up the thread but I'm more used to there being good options and bad options, so even if the target is someone generic and uninformed, there often still are better options to recommend.
If everything being sold is good and it's as simple as "buy this diameter with any of these widths and knobs on the side" then fair enough, thanks. I didn't mean to drown out other discussions or questions, I'm just an overthinker when it comes to buying things.
I've never taken off or put on a tire since my dad used to do it and I haven't had a flat on either my old or new bike since i moved out. From what I've seen it looks like quite the ordeal, struggling with tire levers and whatnot. Was it that easy and fast the first time you did it or did you simply get that much better over time?
>>1996565
>>1996564
Alright I'll look for something in that 35-45 range then, thanks.
>>1996624
The handgrips on my old bike had this to a major extent and I simply got in the habit of giving them a tap after a ride or during a rest slot gets back to the middle. Haven't had it at all in the 100h or so I put in on new bike so I'm inclined to believe it's mainly a issue with the grips itself.","attachment":null,"posted":1715597614},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996637,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996632
> it looks like quite the ordeal, struggling with tire levers
nta but I reread the whole chain to understand the context and while I don't care if you're "shitting up the thread" (this board gets far worse and I seem to be the only one irritated by the bad stuff, cough cough urbanism polspammers cough) you are kind of looking like you're just fishing for (You)s at this point, from the way you're talking one would think you had a set of tubulars or tubeless and were just idly curious but no, you've got normal clinchers, you're looking for new tires, but you cba to take off the current ones (which you're going to have to do anyway). you're lucky you CAN use tire levers, some of us poor oppressed freds have to use our bare hands because levers will damage our expensive carbon rims. grow a pair you sissy, it takes 5 minutes and the worst you can do is damage a $6 inner tube if you don't know what you're doing","attachment":null,"posted":1715600460},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996648,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996624
>rest my inner palm on the edges of the bar.
you'd probably love some ergon type grips. they support that type of grip and also they have a collar that bolts in place to the bar so it can't move.
I got some cheap imitation ones and they're great","attachment":null,"posted":1715604663},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996649,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"https://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/genesis-equilibrium-vargn21800
Is this for £700 a good deal? (2nd hand) I'm a bit wary buying 2nd hand so I'm half tempted to pick up a Triban RC 120 for £400
it will be my first road bike","attachment":null,"posted":1715605178},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996651,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996632
>Sorry you think I'm shitting up the thread but I'm more used to there being good options and bad options
Yeah so tires are the most important component of a bicycle, and give you most of your ride quality.
Tire selection is like an RPG stat sheet and various qualities of tires have opposing values which they subtract from. Durability subtracts from ride quality and feel because it means thicker rubber, taken to an extreme where you're riding solid tires which never flat and shake the teeth out of your head.
The worst tires to ride are the super durable ones, like marathons.
Then you come to the 'good' brands, autistic german ones, conti and schwalbe, having a fairly aquired price premium, which pretty much nullifies their superiority in the market.
What you and everyone else who asks this is really doing is not seeking advice but seeking handholding to make a conservative choice and somehow justify it as clever or informed, and you already have all the information that you will pay any heed to before you even ask.
Actually most things in life are like this anon, there's no redpill for you, everything, every action, political value or idea has contrasting negative and positive values, weighted against one another, and thinking you can somehow cheat this without minmaxing and prioritising fun or cool things over ease, well that just means you're yet another voice of a delusional cult, all alike, and with bikes that aren't as fun as my ones.","attachment":null,"posted":1715606330},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996652,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996648
I just looked it up, the paddle-like surface thing looks like it would be more comfortable yeah. I went from horn grips on my old bike to a regular flat bar and horns lended themselves well to that kind of pinball resting stance. But at the same time I really like the no-nonsense look of a plain flat bar but I will look into these things you suggested, seems inexpensive.","attachment":null,"posted":1715606463},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996653,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is this bike worth 90 dollars?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715606651055787.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_2024-05-13-09-21-09-06_be80aec1db9a2b53c9d399db0c602181.jpg"},"posted":1715606651},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996655,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996653
It's probably super low mileage but it's also incredibly low end and those bikes are usually pretty fucked right out of the box. You'd have to fix the tires to even ride it. That's not hard but it doesn't roll now which is kind of a key quality of a shit bike which someone wants actual money for.
You've got gripshift which is awful and i think plastic body brake levers, i bet a tourney derailer.
$20 would be more fair.","attachment":null,"posted":1715607290},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996649
heavily depends on condition but that's a nicer bike than the decathalon shitter for sure.","attachment":null,"posted":1715607413},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996658,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">entire bicycle industry suffering
>Shimano just hit 52-week high on significantly better than expected financial results","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715608511423403.jpg","filename":"20240513.jpg"},"posted":1715608511},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996660,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996653
nishiki used to be a good brand but that looks newer than any I've seen and yeah, very low end.
I'm not saying it's not worth $90, but for that price something much better should be available, but if your market is slow you may have to wait or travel to the nearest city .
also, gripshift is a deal breaker for me, I wouldn't buy a bike with it at all except to immediately replace it with trigger shift","attachment":null,"posted":1715609303},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996661,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996649
I think it might be good deal, if in good condition and <5 years old. For that price he may have swapped all the components for something cheaper so be sure to check. He may also be just willing to sell this quicly because wife or for something carbon or more modern with discs, so you could also try to lowball him hard for 500, i think it's a fair price.
Anyway these two choices really don't compare, with the triban you could have something more modern with discs and carbon fork, cheap and guaranteed. which I think would be more suitable for a first bike. That genesis is more a "coup de coeur" buy I think.
But in the meantime, you could just go look at the Genesis and see if he's a good dude and if the bike is your size.
>>1996656
Nicer based on what? THe brand? The steel? I bet you the dude is selling the genesis because it's a harsh ride","attachment":null,"posted":1715609366},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996662,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996651
>What you and everyone else who asks this is really doing is not seeking advice but seeking handholding to make a conservative choice and somehow justify it as clever or informed, and you already have all the information that you will pay any heed to before you even ask.
While that is true to some extent, if there is no "correct" option to buy, I can still learn from the aspects people recommend and the advice they give as to what I can and can't use. Without posting here I likely would have purchased 55-622 again, which seems to be almost exclusively aimed at heavy threads (plus the store I just checked only has 16 in total). Knowing that 35-45mm is not only an option but likely also just better gives me a lot more choices to look into.
I might not know what I want and I might still end up getting shit tires but at least now I know the type I should be looking out for and go from there.
Just from what I've gathered here I'm considering either the Schwalbe Hurricane
42-622 or the Schwalbe CX comp clincher 40-622 that I saw on the store site, in addition to the Schwalbe marathon almotion, continental double fighter and wtb riddler someone recommended.
But yeah I think I do have to come to terms with the fact that I've learned what there is to learn and just have to compare tradeoffs and prices at this point.
Thanks for the help
>Yeah so tires are the most important component of a bicycle, and give you most of your ride quality.
You'd argue they're even more important than the saddle? When I had to replace mine, some of the ones I tried out felt practically unusable. I'm glad the bike I got ended up coming with a saddle I already really enjoyed out of the gate.","attachment":null,"posted":1715609887},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996663,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994513
My tire constantly looks flat, even when I just blew it up. When I ride I feel every relief of the road, the tiniest imperfections of the asphalt.
I feel I struggle too because of that. Is my innertube too small ? It's a Hutchinson 27" x 7"/8" 622/630. I have a road bike.
Also I often have a flat, every month or two, I feel there is something going on. It's very annoying, I have problems with work because of that.","attachment":null,"posted":1715610400},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996666,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996663
I'm this anon.
I know there are some inner rigid plastic protections for mountain bikes, but I've never seen some for road bikes tires (less large).","attachment":null,"posted":1715610525},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996667,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996663
tubes dont hold air indefinitely, my commuter will go from 45psi to 35 after 2 weeks for example. its best to pump up every few rides.
next time you have the tire off, run your fingers through the inside of it slowly and feel for any debris or pokey bits that could be poking your tube and giving you flats. any time you get a flat you should identify why, they aren't random.","attachment":null,"posted":1715611523},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"if you have a fast rolling tyre on one wheel and a slow rolling tyre on the other, will the total roll be halfway between the two?","attachment":null,"posted":1715613214},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996676,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996663
The size of the tube has more to do with whether it will fail from a blowout, or fit correctly without pinching, once you have it set at a certain pressure, the "look" from the outside should be about the same. So if it looks flat, that means it is flat. Does your pump have a pressure gauge? What pressure are you pumping it to? What does it say on the sidewall for what it should be?","attachment":null,"posted":1715613985},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996680,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996667
No, the tire is flat and I feel every imperfections of the asphalt even when I just blew it up 10sec ago. Whenever I hop on it the back tire is flat.","attachment":null,"posted":1715615247},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996681,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996673
No, weight distribution over your tires are not equal.","attachment":null,"posted":1715615269},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996682,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I'm trying to buy a saddle from Aliexpress. They offer either a plastic base or a carbon base. Am I correct in assuming CR-MO Rail 7x7mm under RAIL UD in the image is the plastic base?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715615843706104.png","filename":"Screenshot 2024-05-13 at 10-51-19 30.1US $ 64% OFF RYET 3D Printed Bike Saddle Ultralight Carbon Fiber Hollow Comfortable Breathable MTB Gravel Road Bicycle Cycling Seating Parts - AliExpress.png"},"posted":1715615843},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996683,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996661
There is only 1 picture which has me a little suspicious, the bike was purchased in 2020 so it's at least 4 years old and has breakpads so it does seem a bit on the older end now.
My main reason for wanting it is I love the colour and I like the brand name.
Ahh, now I'm not sure! It's quite far from me so just going to take a look is a bit difficult, 3 hours by train","attachment":null,"posted":1715616111},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996684,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996680
if it isn't holding air at all you have a puncture or leak somewhere. take it out and visually inspect the tube, if you can't find a leak you could try submerging it in soapy water and applying some pressure around the tube or pumping some air into it and that'll show you where to patch.
if you have a valve tool use it to tighten the valve a bit too just in case","attachment":null,"posted":1715616308},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996682
maybe but just write to the shop via the integrated messaging, many are quite fast, especially those with good reviews.","attachment":null,"posted":1715616411},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996686,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996680
dude the thing you told us about the tube being too small is the only thing that makes sense in a whole lot of nonsense in your post (including your stated tire dimensions). just check the size of the tube.","attachment":null,"posted":1715616517},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996689,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996683
nah it's not worth it then. yeah it's a lovely frame but it's not something unique nor a good deal and the distance makes you weak on the bargaining.","attachment":null,"posted":1715616879},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996696,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996686
Here we go, here comes the useless asshole who shouldn't bother posting.
I literally wrote what is written on the box.
Innertube is 700 x 20-25 / 27" x 7/8
622/630.
Tire is 700 x 28C, 28 x 622.
What's crazy is that the innertube got mounted by the clerck himself. He gave me the wrong model.
I'm mad.","attachment":null,"posted":1715617720},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996697,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996696
that tube should be fine for that tire. you ignored my question about tire pressure. what PSI are you using.","attachment":null,"posted":1715617887},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996701,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996697
20-25 for 28 sounds bad, no?
I have nothing to measure PSI, I just blow it up until I can't anymore.
I unmounted one side of the tire rn but I can't have the second one off, the tire is so tight I literally bent the iron piece I used.","attachment":null,"posted":1715621332},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996704,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996701
>I have nothing to measure PSI
i'm a poorfag who rides bso's mostly and one of the best bike investments i made was a floor pump with a gauge","attachment":null,"posted":1715622006},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996705,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996673
Bike splits in half as you pedal it","attachment":null,"posted":1715622999},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996707,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996696
>622/630
neat it fits 27in ancient wheels.
>>1996701
You should have a gauge and pump.
I run 80+psi for 28c tires(that don't measure 28mm wide).
For a normal person weight 50-70 would be recommended.
twinks get 40-50.","attachment":null,"posted":1715623540},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996708,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996701
tubes come in ranges, it's not ideal but slightly too small is usually better than slightly too big, and putting in the "wrong" tube size is routinely done, the size is not your issue here. your issue is not having a pump with a pressure gauge.","attachment":null,"posted":1715623590},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996713,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996704
Well I didn't think I needed one honestly, also mine was 7$ and is very compact, that's why I chose it. How will a gauge fix my problem? To check if the innertube quickly deflate ?
Also I finally managed to unmount the tire, by doing a weird looping with the iron piece, it's super tight for reasons. And there are a lot of black crumbles, like a LOT, like the pile fills half your hand, I can't take picture my phone is dead. So yeah, it looks like a little piece of rock or something was damaging the innertube.
I'm not heavy I'm like 140lbs.
>>1996708
Yeah some guy told me it sticks better to the road. Honestly, riding my bike doesn't feel like "being a little bit more adhesive", it just feels bad, like constantly riding with a half fulfilled tube and feeling any imperfection of the asphalt, vibing your ass, even so you blew it up 1min ago.","attachment":null,"posted":1715625137},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996714,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996713
>How will a gauge fix my problem
your problem is low pressure. a gauge will allow you to fill it to the correct pressure. nothing else is directly relevant. yes it's nice to know if your tube is the right size for other reasons, but if your tube is not exploding, then for purposes of your question, the tube is not interesting. neither is your body weight, the color of your bike, or the USD-JPY exchange rate. ALL that matters here is the PSI
let me just say that one more time, the ONLY THING THAT MATTERS is the PSI
is there something about this that I can help clear up?","attachment":null,"posted":1715625528},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996715,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"like how are we still even talking about this, it's like 10 posts later and 5 hours and it's "but it sticks to the road", NO, it's NOT IMPORTANT, you're describing a problem of low pressure, this isn't a mystery, at. all.","attachment":null,"posted":1715625655},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996716,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996713
my advice about having a good floor pump wasn't toward your issue, just advice overall.
>also mine was 7$ and is very compact
those hand pumps are good and should be part of any kit you carry with you but you'll gain speed and everything by knowing its pumped up to the proper psi from a good floor pump with a gauge
you mentioned a clerk put it on for you, take it back and show them, they'll fix you up","attachment":null,"posted":1715626228},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996717,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996714
Alright, I believe you, you're the experienced here. But why is it about the PSI? I just want to understand. What I mean is: if I blow it up until I can't anymore, the tire will be blown enough anyway? No? How do people do? Most of them don't have a gauge and they still can ride their bike without experiencing my weird problem.
I found no rock or glass piece or anything in the little pile of black crumbles. I washed the inner side of the tire to be sure. I checked the tube was intact in water. I'm gonna mount it now.
>>1996715
Picrel.
Also what are the possible reasons for my tube being low pressure even though I just blew it up?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715626789604296.jpg","filename":"Please be patient I have autism - Narancia - JJBA.jpg"},"posted":1715626789},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996719,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996716
A floor pump? You can't be serious. They're huge, I can't put it in my backpack, even if I could it would take a lot of place. I could say "ok floor pump in the garage and small pump in my backpack when I'm out" but I don't even see the point of buying this if mine already perfectly does it.
What will happen if I just blow it up until I can't? What puttin the exact pressure will change?>>1996716
>take it back and show them, they'll fix you up
Fix what the tube is pierced, they don't care, they will tell me to buy a new one lol.
Also I don't even know how people put a rub on it, everytime I tried it, it instantly flatened. Even though I clipped the tube with a pinch during one hour and all, let it dry, perfectly contains the air etc, no bubble under water. I just buy a new tube each time...
Also, no plastic inner protections for road bikes?","attachment":null,"posted":1715627466},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996720,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996717
>Alright, I believe you, you're the experienced here. But why is it about the PSI? I just want to understand. What I mean is: if I blow it up until I can't anymore, the tire will be blown enough anyway?
No, because "until I can't anymore" is entirely dependent on the pump, and how strong you are. A fatter tire needs less pressure and "until I can't anymore" may suffice. A 700c road tire may need more than your arm (or the pump) can deliver
>Most of them don't have a gauge and they still can ride their bike without experiencing my weird problem.
Maybe they're riding fatter tires. Maybe they have a better pump or stronger arms. Maybe they really are having problems (hearing people complain about pinch flats on their new bike is a meme that exasperates people who hang out answering noob questions, so that should tell you something)
The tire is probably not leaking. The tire probably needs more pressure. 700x28 is more forgiving than some smaller tires, but with a shitty pump you can still easily approach the limitations of the pump on a tire like that
Look at the sidewalls, there's a PSI/Bar rec on there and it probably says something like "max 115psi" (meaning don't go over that). you probably want something like 90psi in that case. 90psi is a lot if your pump sucks.","attachment":null,"posted":1715627649},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996721,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996719
portable pumps are for emergencies, not for topping up your tires every day. you use those things so you won't have to walk home, then you fix the problem, and put in the correct amount of air. if I had to use a shitty hand pump for everything I'd kms and I don't even go over 60 PSI because I have bigger tires than you.","attachment":null,"posted":1715627772},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996722,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996717
You being 140lb and probably 5'8 to 6ft tall means as a twink you can't get much pressure in the tire. Especially with a 7 dollar mini pump. With a floor pump you can use your whole upper body, pecs, triceps, and more to pump that sucker up however high you want.
You might only get 30psi in there, when you really want 60.
Reminds me of the portable pump poster from like 2-3 months ago.","attachment":null,"posted":1715628261},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996723,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996721
>hand pump
>60psi
thats impressive, the cheap ones i've used start to become a bitch at like 30, at 40lbs i feel like i'm going to shatter the hand grip part. so i always do around 20 then tell people to go find a real pump","attachment":null,"posted":1715628512},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996726,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996723
oh yeah I would never go that high in a roadside emergency, 40 is enough to get home on 700x32. but technically I think it can do 90 if your arms are up for it and you can manage not to break off the valve core with your angry pumping motions","attachment":null,"posted":1715628947},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996732,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996723
lift more bitch hands, I've done 90 with a hand pump, it sucked","attachment":null,"posted":1715630218},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996750,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995527
If you (or anyone else) needs this, I can 3D print it for you (you'll have to pay for shipping and a few dollars for the material).","attachment":null,"posted":1715635000},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996759,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"so my neighbors whom I am not close or anything was trying to install new tyres into his bike and has been trying to do it for like a half day now, I tought maybe he does not have the levers and was hesitating to reach out after watching him for like half and hour and so I finally took the risk and told him " hey I have some of those levers" and he says " these are foldable tyres " and puts this sour grapes faces, like telling me to fuck off, I have no idea about foldable tyres or whatever but are those supposed to be installed only using your hands ? will using lever fuck them or what ? I am a lil pissed off because I knew something like that was going to happen and as always trying to interact or help someone turned out to be a waste of time and a bad experience , I watched the video from continental on youtube and the guy gives up at the middle of the video and uses some levers, are those foldable tyre specific ? have standards become so stupid that you need specific levers for specific types of tyres ? ?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715641942257502.png","filename":"1779605774447dd64-2888221040.png"},"posted":1715641942},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996760,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996759
Foldable tires have a kevlar or aramid bead and thus can be folded up for easy storage and sale. The alternative is steel wire bead tires which Connor be folded and have to be kept as big hoops hanging off the wall. Your neighbor is retarded.","attachment":null,"posted":1715642060},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996761,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996759
You don't really need levers at all, but traditionally, "folding tires" were a distinct thing (back when people carried a spare tire and not just a spare tube or in most cases now, just a plug/worm thing)
"Folding tires" were clinchers but the beads were shittier and weaker, because they didn't have stuff like kevlar back then. So you had to be extra super duper careful not to use levers.
Your error was to insult his masculinity, nothing more. From his point of view, you might as well have implied he can't satisfy his wife and offered to fuck his wife for him. Testosterone is poison and causes irrational, unhinged behavior.","attachment":null,"posted":1715642222},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996763,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996761
right, I knew that and cyclist are specially anal on this country so it was a total faux pas, this is the reason why I only rode like two times on the road and gave up, this shit sucks, I may as well just pretend I know nothing about bikes even though I have been building an almost complete tool set and built multiple bikes over the years. thanks for your replies.","attachment":null,"posted":1715642563},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996765,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996759
>>1996759
Your neighbor has skill issue or incompatible parts. Folding or wire bead has little effect on ease or difficulty, I'd even say folding bead in my experience has been easier to mount. Anyways, yes tire levers help in mounting but they're not needed if you have the right technique, which is squeezing the tire lengthwise so the bead falls into the dip of the middle of the rim which makes the diameter smaller so the bead slip over the lip. Tire levers are more important for dismounting a tire","attachment":null,"posted":1715643543},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996766,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996765
It mattered a lot in like 1975, his neighbor is just a cantankerous old man","attachment":null,"posted":1715643760},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996769,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How fucked am I?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715645906898580.jpg","filename":"1715645888209.jpg"},"posted":1715645906},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996771,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996720
>hearing people complain about pinch flats on their new bike
I got one recently.
>what a noob
You'll say. But I ride for 5 years, changed maybe 10 tires and it never happened to me before. I had some mountain bike before, although, maybe that's why.
Also I literally don't understand how people unmount their tire, maybe mine isn't adapted, I don't know, but I never struggled that much for a bike. I managed to unmount one side, and the second side will never come... I broke two tire irons (made of hard plastic), I just have a iron one left. I have some shitty picrel, it's so weird, they're kinda flexible, they don't break but the tire just doesn't get off. I swear it's not about force, I literally bent iron piece. The tire just DOESN'T COME.
I used the trick with the two tire irons seen at 1:50 to get off the first side but I swear, when forcing to get off the second one it just DOESN'T come. Idky.
Also I don't even know how I will mount the tube and tire without getting the famous pinch flat.
I'm fucked I don't have anything to eat anymore. I can't shop.
But alright I'll buy one with a gauge when I have money (not now, so)
>>1996722
Alright. I'm not him though.","attachment":null,"posted":1715647044},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996772,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996771
shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqyWa5jra0o
1:50","attachment":null,"posted":1715647158},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996775,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"how are people this bad at bike maintenance","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715648384815754.jpg","filename":"frog.jpg"},"posted":1715648384},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996776,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">just bought bob trailer
>kinda thinking about pulling it with comfy 29+
>won't fit
There's gotta be a solution for this innit","attachment":null,"posted":1715648890},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996777,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996775
It's spring","attachment":null,"posted":1715649152},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996778,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996769
If the bearings are crunchy you can clean and refill, or just get new ones.
To me that's either mud(x) doubt or rust.
>>1996775
Everyone is on a spectrum from mechanically adept to ...... this and worse.
Just means they put all their stats into another section and they can learn, it just takes longer and it's harder.","attachment":null,"posted":1715649228},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996780,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">inflate tire
>flat
>clean tire and replace rim tape
>flat
>check where it punctures, ok loosen spoke
>flat in same spot
>out of tubes (they split)
ok what the frick is going on
that was like five punctures","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715650187576624.jpg","filename":"GNTG6UBasAAgcCH.jpg"},"posted":1715650187},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996782,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"holy fuck I thought that whole "I can feel the road on my 28mm tires" chain was a shitshow, but then came the twinkposter anon","attachment":null,"posted":1715651101},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996783,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996776
The spirit of 29+ is cobbling some janky shit together yourself because “the man” doesn’t give you any good options","attachment":null,"posted":1715651331},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996787,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996662
>You'd argue they're even more important than the saddle? When I had to replace mine, some of the ones I tried out felt practically unusable. I'm glad the bike I got ended up coming with a saddle I already really enjoyed out of the gate.
Saddle theory is that a saddle should be supported by the bones of your ass, your sit bones.
When you begin riding a bicycle you will bruise over your sitbones and this happens until you toughen up there.
The instinct of most people is to add padding, but over distance what that padding does is compress around your sit bones, and contact the nerves around your groin, which will eventually cause 'bad pain'.
Good pain is something inevitable which will toughen up your ass, bad pain will injure your benis. It is the 'immediate comfort' that will lead you to a path of long term pain and injury and the immediate pain which will lead you to a path of long term cycling and health.
You also learn to actually ride and support most of your weight with pedaling action, or, on descending, to be slightly off the saddle and hold it between your legs, for more control.","attachment":null,"posted":1715652235},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996788,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996696
not that guy and no he didn't dude. That's the correct tube.","attachment":null,"posted":1715652346},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996789,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996780
every puncture, work out where and why it happened.
Remove the tube, inflate it, find the hole, MARK the corresponding spot on the tire and on the wheel with a pen, get a good idea of where on the tube it is (inside or out).
Always install the tire with the logos aligning in the same place on the rim so as to make this tracing work easier.
Unless you're out on the road in the rain, or there's damage around the valve, patch your tubes, so that this exercise doesn't cost $5-$10 each time.
Also a lot of punctures are due to poor installation.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715652730131398.jpg","filename":"Sven Yrvind.jpg"},"posted":1715652730},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996790,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996788
never mind the stated range, it's correct because I said so","attachment":null,"posted":1715652858},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996791,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996790
this but 100% unironically","attachment":null,"posted":1715652961},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996792,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996780
>>1996771
>>1996759
There is a trick to tires that most people don't use.
The tire bead sits on the hook of the rim. You can push it off into the well, which has a smaller circumference, and this creates slack. Installing or removing tires, this technique of working around the wheel with your hands, constantly pushing the bead off the hook and into the well, should be repeated with every little bit you leverage on or off. Do it over and over and you will get more slack each time.
This allows most tires to be installed without levers, and the rare seemingly impossible tires become possible, with levers.
Many repeated flats are caused by tube damage from levers.
This is what you should have shown the curmudgeonly boomer.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715653120573530.jpg","filename":"rim tyre.jpg"},"posted":1715653120},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996793,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996790
Just read the reply chain, if your tire keeps going flat then there is a hole in it, and thus it will go flat again when you pump it up. Tubes are stretchy and 3mm stated size difference is guaranteed to not be part of your problem whatsoever. You need to solve the hole and/or whatever keeps making a hole it. And you need a pressure gauge or you’re gonna be back complaining that the new tube you bought now makes the bike feel like a shopping cart after you “pumped till I caint pump no more”","attachment":null,"posted":1715653365},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996794,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996792
Remember deep rim beds are a fairly new thing, a lot of old cheap tube-only wheels will be practically horizontal from side the side and this isn’t an instant fix-everything cheat code in that case","attachment":null,"posted":1715653446},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996795,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996790
Have you ever inflated an inner tube outside of a tire? It's like a condom.
A road one will go to the size of a tractor wheel without deforming.
25-28 is a miniscule difference. The smaller inner tube is if anything preferable, and i would choose to buy that for a 28 rather than something which was say 28-35.
You can put a 1" tube in a 2" tire, just fine. You can even put a 26" tube in a 700c wheel although installation is a bit annoying.
Even the stated size of tires commonly has 2-3mm variation and i wouldn't be surprised if your '28' tire is actually 25mm, many are.
>>1996713
>And there are a lot of black crumbles, like a LOT, like the pile fills half your hand,
Your flats are happening because your tire is incredibly old and is fucking disintegrating","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715653558514502.jpg","filename":"440363499_861199566043925_7459927954092044248_n.jpg"},"posted":1715653558},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996796,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996794
I have almost 50 old wheels hanging in my garage and imo it always makes a helpful difference, even if that difference is slow and minor.
I always do it.
It's not instant, it's slow and steady work. It doesn't make changing tires easy, it makes it easier. That easier is always worthwhile.","attachment":null,"posted":1715653723},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996797,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996796
>wheel hoarder anon has spoken","attachment":null,"posted":1715653775},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996798,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996792
Thanks anon, I'll try tommorow.","attachment":null,"posted":1715653951},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996799,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996771
also anon, tire levers do break, but fancy tire levers are way stronger than ordinary ones, the green birzman ones are my fav, pink pedros are nice too although a little thick.
do not use metal tire levers you will damage your rim.","attachment":null,"posted":1715654206},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996789
it's at the same spot every time and i've gone over the rim tape and the specific spoke nipple it happens on and it felt fine. i lightly sanded it to ensure there were no burrs whatsoever and it still happened. the spoke isn't protruding past the nipple either, so i dunno.
but yeah, i did patch them but numerous punctures in the same location seems like it caused the tubes to split along the seam, and using the air compressor because i was getting impatient didn't help either.
i guess i can try replacing the spoke nipple and i think there are some more tubes in the shed...maybe...","attachment":null,"posted":1715654270},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996801,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996799
Ok, nice. Thanks. You do well by warning me about iron levers, I was gonna buy one.
Funnily the clerk from the shop uses one.","attachment":null,"posted":1715654350},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996802,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996801
Pedro’s for fucking life","attachment":null,"posted":1715654442},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996803,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996800
God i hate single wall rims. It should be possible though, if you can isolate a spot on the rim causing flats, to fix that area and be confident it's not a problem. Also hope you're using proper cloth velox etc tape, not a rubber/plastic one.
So then it sounds like your patches are failing and that you'd be fine with a new tube.","attachment":null,"posted":1715654517},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996804,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996800
Take the tire off and wash everything with a soaking rag and put new or re-applied rim tape back on","attachment":null,"posted":1715654549},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996802
i got a pair of the yellow ones for $5 and they've been good","attachment":null,"posted":1715654590},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996806,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996801
Allg
the whole tire installation nightmare is something we all come to sometimes, even the most seasoned mechanics, you think you're a pro and then it will happen again with a nightmare combo (fucking 'tubeless compatible' rim and 'open tubular' tire) and your hands are bleeding again and humility returns.
Just know most nightmare combos do ease up over time so you might imagine a flat would be impossible to fix on the road but it gets easier from now on out.
Leaving the tire in the sun for an hour or so it's warm when you install it helps a little also.","attachment":null,"posted":1715654757},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996807,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996805
I’m from mountain biking so I’m biased needing extra strong levers, but Pedro’s (and Pedro clones) have been the best tire levers under $20 I’ve used in 15 years. Steel-core ones don’t cut it, full-steel ones are dangerous to your nice rims, and that cushcore buttplug tire lever is like $25+. Pedro’s forever.
Don’t forget that little hook/notch on the opposite side is to hook a lever onto your spokes so you can use a second one too","attachment":null,"posted":1715654774},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996808,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996807
mtb tires are easy lol the hard ones are the exotic road tires like challenge or the old open paves that aren't even in the fucking shape of tires","attachment":null,"posted":1715654935},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996809,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996807
yeah i haven't used them on anything strenuous, mostly 20in bmx and older 26in mtb wheels","attachment":null,"posted":1715655219},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996810,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996809
Was so nice ripping my floppy 10 year old 26” tire off and back on with zero effort that one time on the trail","attachment":null,"posted":1715656147},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996821,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996648
Ended up ordering a cheap knockoff pair for $10.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715671002506542.jpg","filename":"2024-05-13 16.31.52 www.kupujemprodajem.com 6a4feb078d9b.jpg"},"posted":1715671002},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996834,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is there any reason to not use at least drip wax instead of oil-based lubes?
Also, are there any interesting non-carbon saddles to look at at aliexpress?","attachment":null,"posted":1715683977},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996837,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"1. Quick-release rear wheel. Any tips/tricks to putting the wheel back the same way it was, and how to eyeball the torque on the quick release latch?
2. Do helmets help with riding in the rain in terms of not getting water in your eyes?","attachment":null,"posted":1715686617},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996839,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996778
I'm worried only about the crank and axle, the BB is trashed. Can it be that this rust/mud/grime/sand ate a ring out of the axle?","attachment":null,"posted":1715687719},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996843,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How often do you guys actually degrease/reapply new lube?
After I get home the last fucking thing I want to do is start maintaining my bike. I also struggle with it staining my pants on the first ride or two after reapplying it, no matter how conservative I try to be applying it, how much I try to wipe of excess or how long I let it rest.","attachment":null,"posted":1715689579},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996845,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996834
>>1996843
no reason to not just immersive wax. materials of cheapo paraffin, small slow cooker and thermometer will be under 20 bucks. people will say that re-cleaning/waxing is annoying but it only needs the one solvent soak and re-lubing is just tossing it in the wax pot and walking away for a bit.
drip wax is kind of inferior in the sense that it needs to sit for a considerable amount of time before it cures and all the carrier evaporates, but it's fine. it's going to be cleaner and faster than your oil based lubes generally.","attachment":null,"posted":1715691021},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996846,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996845
I'm the second anon
My chain doesn't have a quicklink so it seems like a horrible idea to use a method that requires removing the chain each time
Sadly this also makes it a lot more annoying to try & clean","attachment":null,"posted":1715691842},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996857,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"been watching a few videos about carbon forks snapping at the head due to "ring of death"
how do I check if I am in the risk zone?","attachment":null,"posted":1715698686},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996861,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994578
Realistically the only concern is where to store the bike while at work and what condition you and your clothes need to be in for work. For me going into the office, I basically wear whatever I'm going to wear for biking in whatever weather, and bring completely separate clothes in a dry bag to change into. Wipe down with a damp paper towel, microfiber towel off, deodorant, pocket comb. I have a 40-50min ride in and I can get away with slacks and a polo.
>>1994984
My issues are almost 100% related to painted bike gutters alongside parking, so cars exiting without looking, doors opening without looking, and cars diving in for open spots without looking. Mostly try to avoid, if I can I go slow and run daytime lights, ring the bell occasionally.","attachment":null,"posted":1715700443},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996865,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"another question i have could anyone explain the biggest differences between shimano and sram? which is better?","attachment":null,"posted":1715701985},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996870,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"what cages are 1.5l nalgene compatible that arent 40 frickin dollars?","attachment":null,"posted":1715704767},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996873,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996834
the build-up of drip wax is harder to wipe off and then crud sticks to it. which, like all lubes, creates a grinding paste that eats your chain.
you could do a complete, spotless clean with every drip-wax lube but you have to remove the chain for that; it's very time consuming compared with an on-bike lube (wipe down with a some solvent on a rag, lube, and wipe down again "good enough" service); and at that point you've got it off the bike so you may as well dunk it in a crock pot of parafin which is more thorough and orders of magnitude cheaper. if you don't care about the environment you can throw a little ptfe (teflon) in there or there's other additives I think if you are an actually responsible adult with a conscience .","attachment":null,"posted":1715706296},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996883,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996837
>1. Quick-release rear wheel
so, the skewer threads on with a round nut you turn with your fingers, then the lever has a cam in it that tightens it several more mms in one go, much tighter than you could ever twist the nut. start with the lever open.
now, you're going to need a bike stand or you're going to have to flip the bike upside down on the saddle and bars for the following to work.
in order to to get the chain on the wheel and the axle in the dropouts, you must first shift the derailleur to move the chain to where the small rear cog will ultimately be (fully outboard). the smart anon will shift it there before he removes the wheel in the first place. get your wheel between the chainstays and seatstays, i.e. roughly inside the frame where it ultimately goes, but a little forward of the dropouts; and simultaneously drape the chain with your finger loosely somewhere over the gear cluster. now grip the derailleur and pivot it backwards on the big bolt that attaches it to the frame, against the tension of the spring. the pulleys will stretch and the chain between the derailleur and the dropouts will get really long. now target the small cog onto this now-large area of chain and pull the wheel back, pressing the small cog into that bit of chain. with the cog mated into the chain, wiggle the wheel backwards so the axle can slide loosely between both dropouts.
(1/2)","attachment":null,"posted":1715712396},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996884,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996883
now, the qr lever is still in the open position. when you opened it to get the wheel off, presumably the nut was threaded into the right place. but often , one must unscrew it some to remove the wheel easily, or you may have removed the skewer etc. so now, close the lever. if the axle is too loose or too tight, you want to position the nut by threading it so the skewer is finger-tight between the dropouts with the lever closed. then, flip the lever open and tighten the nut a half-to-a-full-turn more, then try closing the lever again. possibly you have to keep readjusting the nut until the lever engages very snugly without having to gorilla grip it. your hand muscles should be comfortable, not strained, to flip it; but a brief strain when the cam fully engages. your correct tightness is set, now undo the lever.
now the hard part. you have to pull the wheel all the way back in the dropouts while simultaneously flipping the qr lever. the hard part is that the derailleur spring will fight you and wants to push that side of the axle forward which makes the wheel crooked. when you know both sides of the axle are fully back, touching the rear ends of the dropouts on both sides, flip the qr lever closed. that's it.
you will have had to disengage rim brakes to remove and reinsert the wheel, so make sure you remember to reengage the brake now if you have rim brakes.","attachment":null,"posted":1715712478},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996885,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996837
>2. Do helmets help with riding in the rain in terms of not getting water in your eyes?
maybe a little but not enough. you want either a visor that attaches to the helmet, or wear a hat with a brim under the helmet. cycle cap, baseball hat, etc.","attachment":null,"posted":1715712793},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996887,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996839
I think it's fine. just wipe off the old grease and grime, steel wool off any rust, and smear a thin layer of grease back on before reinstallation","attachment":null,"posted":1715712944},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996888,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996843
I have a full fender kit that keeps the drivetrain very clean, so I don't really have to degrease the chain anymore. I lube it whenever I start hearing it. if it goes a long time it'll squeak, but there's an intermediate noise; the chain just sounds "noisy", that's when I relube :
>>1996873
>an on-bike lube (wipe down with a some solvent on a rag, lube, and wipe down again "good enough" service)
is me, that's what I do.","attachment":null,"posted":1715713235},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996892,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996870
Arundel looney bin. All the other ones are $40","attachment":null,"posted":1715716117},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996902,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996892
not him but nice","attachment":null,"posted":1715718850},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996907,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996865
One is an older Japanese brand based in Japan and the other is a newer American brand based in America and they both want to take your money","attachment":null,"posted":1715719597},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996908,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996892
are they reliable? ratcheting bottle cage seems likea problem waiting to happen.","attachment":null,"posted":1715719839},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996911,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996908
Mine has become a bit crusty and stiffer to adjust since 2019 but the reliability has always been perfect even with this massive bottle on. I do have velo orange mojave cages on my other bikes though, they’re $40 but sometimes they’re on sale and Amazon sells them so maybe you’ve got discounts/giftcards","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715721029815260.jpg","filename":"image.jpg"},"posted":1715721029},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996912,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996911
As you can see from the wear marks on the bottle, the velo orange mojave cage I normally use has a much larger grip on it (along with triple mounting holes), but Ive mountain biked aggressively with the looney bin on a different bike and never lost a bottle or broke the cage","attachment":null,"posted":1715721196},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996913,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996907
sram has been nicer in the sense that their chains last longer and they make post-mount brakes for their dropbar groupsets.","attachment":null,"posted":1715721280},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996918,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996883
>>1996884
holy fuck what an awful post
>>1996837
>how to eyeball the torque on the quick release latch?
Cam should be closed with the lever at 90°, rest is tightening it","attachment":null,"posted":1715722240},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996952,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996913
and yet they can't build a front derailleur worth two shits.","attachment":null,"posted":1715729856},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996953,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996918
yeah, well, fuck you, too","attachment":null,"posted":1715730216},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996964,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"What bottle do you guys use?
I'm used to lugging big 1.5L-2L bottles in my backpack but want to have less stops just to have a drink so I want something I'll just refill once in a while on the road from my back. I was considering the Camelbak Podium but started wondering if it's worth the step up for Chill/Ice just to keep it lukewarm rather than hot as I'm riding around for a while in the sun or if the difference with room temperature water rather than cold/hot beverages won't make a noticeable difference.","attachment":null,"posted":1715736852},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996976,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996964
Normal cycling bottle that you squeeze to squirt. Got a whole load of them for free BITD at a cycling event.
For your use case a camelback will work. Admittedly I haven't used mine with ice water.... but I should try it out. Mine can hold 2L and that gets me through most hard, hot rides.
>>1996865
There is truly no "better". It's more about what you like.
For me it depends on what you are using. Campy makes my favorite brifters, wheels/hubs, and derailleurs. Shimano brifter levers are floppy, so that's a no from me. However I like shimano friction shifters, hubs(yes I like cup and cone), and mtb groupsets.
Sram has nice clicky mtb shifters, and I like truvativ cranks. I like their chains too. Oh, and twist grip is cool. Rockshox is nice too.
Just get the one on sale or that fits your use case.","attachment":null,"posted":1715745808},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996986,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996964
Sweating with a backpack on your back is probably the reason you need that much water to begin with. Two 0.75l bottles is more than you should need, and if you empty them both you are probably passing a store where you can buy water and refill.","attachment":null,"posted":1715754914},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996993,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"i ride a fuji feather when riding around town. looking to add a front rack or bag to carry stuff easier, does anyone have any cheap suggestions (i paid <200$ for the bike so dont exactly feel like matching the cost of the bike in buying a rack)? ideally im thinking rack for flexibility.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715766357911483.jpg","filename":"IMG_0576.jpg"},"posted":1715766357},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1996999,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996986
I sweat like mad even without it, on shorter rides I don't take anything and still come home dripping wet.
On the longest ride I've done I went through 3l and had to buy a bottle of coke at some point, both since I was starting to run low on drinks and because I was starting to run low on energy.
>>1996976
>Normal cycling bottle that you squeeze to squirt. Got a whole load of them for free BITD at a cycling event.
Like at the same event? You just went home with 5 bottles or whatever? lol
Or are you just frequenting cycling events. I feel like I'm not nearly serious enough to take part in anything like that, I just like to ride around nature and get out in the sun a bit because I'm mostly indoors at a PC for every other part of my life.","attachment":null,"posted":1715772550},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997015,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996964
id just buy a milsurp bladder and pouch and put it on a rack. shit, get two of them to hang from either side and youll have the ability to carry 6l of water for like 30 bucks.
soma makes a narrow 1l bottle for like 11 dollars too, it'll fit in any cage really. you could get 3 bottles, 3 cages, and some band clamp adapters if you don't have bosses - but this is going to be like 60 dollars. some 1.5l pre bottled water bottles here in the us fit into cages fairly well and sometimes they come with drink through caps, getting 3 of those and re-using them until you've decided they're spent is an option too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715780830},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997067,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have a problem with my bikes breaks at the front, they seem to be contacting the disc rotors and I don't know what to do","attachment":null,"posted":1715804377},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997068,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997067
Loosen the brake caliper, squeeze the lever really tight, tighten the brake caliper","attachment":null,"posted":1715804932},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997070,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Do the bearings need to have zero space between? I've cleaned them, there were 11 balls, started installing them back but they barely fit, watched a video an guy says usually it's 10 balls. Wtf?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715806575323403.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240515_224809.jpg"},"posted":1715806575},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997080,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997070
I always put however many were in before, it's always been full like your pic. I've seen anon recommend one ball less as being better somehow. iunno but full up never gives me any problem.","attachment":null,"posted":1715811124},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997091,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"does anyone have experience with Diacompe BRS 100?","attachment":null,"posted":1715813990},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997092,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997070
no there should be a gap of one ball. so put one less than how many will fit. maybe you took one from the other side and put it in there.
anyway you can google the hub model number for the schematics and that will show how many balls its supposed to have","attachment":null,"posted":1715814250},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997093,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997092
I have 11 on both sides, so 22 in total. The model is HB-M6000, I actually tried to search for pdfs on shimanos website before asking, but there's no info on how many ball bearings there should be.","attachment":null,"posted":1715814520},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997094,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997092
>there should be a gap of one ball.
yeah but why? none of my hubs came that way and on one bike it was OEM.","attachment":null,"posted":1715814708},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997095,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997093
hm yeah looks like it is 11 balls. not sure why they just barely fit.
https://si.shimano.com/en/pdfs/ev/HB-M6000-4193/EV-HB-M6000-4193.pdf
you can search for the manual on the shimano website
>>1997094
I dont really know but my understanding is that they spread out like how they are in a caged bearing. maybe to prevent them from rubbing against each other not sure. but yeah I guess there doesn't always have to be a gap","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715815401528189.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1715815401},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997097,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997095
How? I literally did it before and now and there's no picture like that in my pdfs. Give me the link to the page where you found this pdf pls.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715815669534247.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_2024-05-16-01-26-24-72_4641ebc0df1485bf6b47ebd018b5ee76.jpg"},"posted":1715815669},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997098,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997097
https://si.shimano.com/en/manual/search?input_model=HB-M6000","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715815923380560.png","filename":"file.png"},"posted":1715815923},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997099,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996761
>Your error was to insult his masculinity
>>1996761
>you might as well have implied he can't satisfy his wife and offered to fuck his wife for him
>>1996763
>so it was a total faux pas
>>1996763
>this is the reason why I only rode like two times on the road and gave up, this shit sucks
>>1996763
>I may as well just pretend I know nothing about bikes even though I have been building an almost complete tool set and built multiple bikes over the years. thanks for your replies.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715817471099487.png","filename":"confused - Copy - Copy.png"},"posted":1715817471},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997100,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"You think I'm going to get ripped off if I go to a bike shop & ask them to remove one link from my chain so I can install a quickrelease link?
I don't want to buy a tool that I'll likely use a single time because I know if I'll ever buy a chain I'll buy one that has the quickrelease already
I just wanna be able to take the entire chain off the bike to make it easier to clean, since no matter how much I scrub & rinse, black shit just keeps coming out
Sadly no local community bike repair shops and I don't know anyone who has the tool","attachment":null,"posted":1715818038},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997101,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996722
>>1996721
alright, I gave the wheel and tire to the clerk, he mounted a new tube. 7$ tube + 8$ for mounting it. Bought some levers, I hope I won't break those ones. I must learn the moves. He Pumped the tube to 90PSI with his floor pump with a gauge. When he gave me the tire I instantly felt the difference, the tire is super hard compared to usual.
I didn't know tubes needed a precise pressure and only a floor pump allowed to reach it. I didn't know a hand pump was only for emergency.
So yeah, I'll buy a floor pump with a gauge and check the pressure once per week.
The wheel is buckled anyway, I'll change it when I'll have some money.
Thanks to anons who advised me. (even those I didn't tag)","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715818982618240.gif","filename":"noted-taking-notes.gif"},"posted":1715818982},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997103,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997100
the tool will cost less than what the shop will charge. probably. I mean, the tool is cheap as hell, in any event.","attachment":null,"posted":1715819329},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997104,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997100
>I'll buy one that has the quickrelease already
bad news, you still have to size the chain to your drivetrain. chains are not one-size-fits-all. so you need to remove however many links to get a new chain to fit, or you need to pay a shop to do it. the tool is cheap","attachment":null,"posted":1715820046},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997106,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997101
good to hear you got it sorted. what levers did you get? just be gentle with them, you often don't need much force at all, let alone to go 0 to conan in one move
for a pump i this for $35 after some others recommended it here
https://www.topeak.com/us/en/product/1079-JOEBLOW-SPORT-III","attachment":null,"posted":1715821001},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997107,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997104
>>1997103
Cheapest I can find it locally is 15 and the price of all these "small cheap things" is really starting to add up and get on my nerves
>Still need to remove links in new chains
Welp that removes that idea
How horrible are the chink ones? I noticed they have a kit with breaker + pliers +quick release links + ruler for seven bucks on aliex. Would I have too much faith in them by getting this or should it do the job fine?","attachment":null,"posted":1715821259},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997125,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997080
Maximum balls is good. General rule of thumb is that maximum balls equals “fully stuffed” minus one","attachment":null,"posted":1715830179},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997126,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997107
Just get a $25 multi-tool that includes a chain breaker; you should own a multi tool too","attachment":null,"posted":1715830297},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997107
Yes those plier-multi-tools that are becoming popular lately are reliable","attachment":null,"posted":1715830360},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997153,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997126
Damn, I feel stupid for getting a smaller multi tool without it last year now.
>>1997127
Are you thinking of something else? I haven't seen any pliermultitools
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005004033121492.html
This is the type of set I meant btw","attachment":null,"posted":1715855743},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997286,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Why can't we have simple elastomere suspensions on regular bikes?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715897518513975.jpg","filename":"IMG_20240516_235833.jpg"},"posted":1715897518},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997289,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1997153
This is the overpriced multi-tool version that I would expect china to sell for $15, but what you posted has a chain wear checking gauge, masterlink opening/closing pliers, and the actual chain breaking tool, that’ll work","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715901436845587.jpg","filename":"D60C2B05-FE3D-4D45-912B-D238B828FA7A.jpg"},"posted":1715901436},{"board":"n","thread":1994513,"pid":1997295,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"new
>>1997294
>>1997294
>>1997294","attachment":null,"posted":1715903215}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1994690,"pid":1994690,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Trains should be powered by induction strips underneath the tracks, like really powerful versions of wireless phone charging. It's more compact than overhead catenary wires or third rails, more resistant to weather and damage, and less likely to electrocute people.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714626880740254.png","filename":"GKaZ3LLWQAEeSko.png"},"posted":1714626880},{"board":"n","thread":1994690,"pid":1994695,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994690
>10 times more expensive
>inefficient power transfer
God i wish only 3 digit IQ people would exist on this planet","attachment":null,"posted":1714629368},{"board":"n","thread":1994690,"pid":1994697,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994695
Don't forget
>Sorry about your 5 miles of ruined induction surface because something was dragging","attachment":null,"posted":1714629827},{"board":"n","thread":1994690,"pid":1994717,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994695
you do not understand how IQ works. Ironic.","attachment":null,"posted":1714644061},{"board":"n","thread":1994690,"pid":1994724,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994717
>you do not understand how IQ works. Ironic.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714647804625067.png","filename":"1671725477713346.png"},"posted":1714647804}]}
{"title":"Help me ID GT bike","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1995634,"pid":1995634,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Anybody know the year and model on this?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715116392388301.jpg","filename":"354469479_6149398438523023_930929716698374669_n.jpg"},"posted":1715116392},{"board":"n","thread":1995634,"pid":1995637,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715116490063393.jpg","filename":"356746914_6536530586430974_7051936192939119644_n.jpg"},"posted":1715116490},{"board":"n","thread":1995634,"pid":1995638,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715116555320052.jpg","filename":"358800223_9594960233909958_209817279702476021_n.jpg"},"posted":1715116555},{"board":"n","thread":1995634,"pid":1995639,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715116616738577.png","filename":"Featured-Image-Kanaka-Maoli-Flag-2-ConvertImage.png"},"posted":1715116616},{"board":"n","thread":1995634,"pid":1995663,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Yes","attachment":null,"posted":1715128509},{"board":"n","thread":1995634,"pid":1995665,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995634
2016 gt MACH one","attachment":null,"posted":1715129563}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1994878,"pid":1994878,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"This is peak metro layout. Complex grid.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714722695195425.png","filename":"barc metro furueew.png"},"posted":1714722695},{"board":"n","thread":1994878,"pid":1994898,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I wonder if annoying zoomies in mexico sperg about barcelona as annoyingly as zoomies in gringolistan sperg about aaamsterdaaaaaaaam
>guey check out this picture of el autobus de barcelona we have to abolish el ayuntamiento and give the slim family unchecked control sobre todo and have los carteles asasinar everyone over 30 or the haciendas won't trickle down!!!","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714738857618011.jpg","filename":"YCE71Df.jpg"},"posted":1714738857},{"board":"n","thread":1994878,"pid":1995228,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994878
>it has been 2024 years since the birth of jesus christ
>barcelona still hasn't connected their two separate tram networks
this is why calatuña does not deserve independence","attachment":null,"posted":1714942703},{"board":"n","thread":1994878,"pid":1995436,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1994898
shut up","attachment":null,"posted":1715041444}]}
{"title":"Rural Intercity Buses","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1996437,"pid":1996437,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I wish there were more transit of this kind however barebones it would have to be in the US. I was running the numbers on operating a private shuttle between two small cities that the local transit agencies seems to have no desire to connect, and even in the worst case scenario of expensive insurance and low ridership, I could make a modest living off of a running a twice-daily 30 mile long service that stops in all the small towns and villages along the way. Maybe this is all just completely obsolete in this day and age but I can't imagine anything more kino than living in a cozy hamlet and riding into the city over the country roads in one of these, stopping at the center of one stoplight towns and not interstate park and rides.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715483429245696.jpg","filename":"Photo-Apr-26-2024-11-10-13-AM-1024x768.jpg"},"posted":1715483429},{"board":"n","thread":1996437,"pid":1996439,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"And before you snicker at the suggestion that the humble 14 pax shuttle can be transit, please consider 14 pax shuttle, Japan","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715483869339761.png","filename":"soyface.png"},"posted":1715483869},{"board":"n","thread":1996437,"pid":1996456,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996437
I wish we had these micro buses again. 20 seats, the back is low-entry which can be accessed with stollers or wheelchairs, trunk underneath has ample space for some luggage.
Too bad regulations say you must use large, 40ft long buses in transit nowadays except the roads are windy and tiny like in Switzerland.
Either standard 40ft, standard articulated ones or get a permission to use something like a 13-seater.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715505955400931.jpg","filename":"auwaerter_teamstar_city.jpg"},"posted":1715505955},{"board":"n","thread":1996437,"pid":1996457,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Optare Solo Gang","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715507104695697.jpg","filename":"1024px-Stagecoach_Optare_Solo_Exeter.jpg"},"posted":1715507104},{"board":"n","thread":1996437,"pid":1996886,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996437
IIRC the town of Lindsay in Ontario, Canada uses the bus in you op pic for their bus network. Only recently having maybe adopted 1 larger bus. It's been a while since I lived there.","attachment":null,"posted":1715712901}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1996472,"pid":1996472,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Do trains cause autism or do autistics enjoy them naturally","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715520882957474.jpg","filename":"IMG_8739.jpg"},"posted":1715520882},{"board":"n","thread":1996472,"pid":1996477,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"you're not as funny as you think you are, op.","attachment":null,"posted":1715524691},{"board":"n","thread":1996472,"pid":1996478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Selection bias, when you put anything under that kind of intense scrutiny you're going to find more of anything that might otherwise have flown under the radar with the default trans portation, it's like how the rate of left handedness appeared to spike dramatically and then stabilized after they stopped punishing left handedness","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715526967910251.gif","filename":"tumblr_7fe484b75736f9d372fc80c4aa434g.gif"},"posted":1715526967}]}
{"title":"B737-8 trailing edge flap","posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996156,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Is it supposed to look like that? It looks like a piece is missing.
On it right now, and it doesn’t look right to me. I have a background of flying, and maybe im just super unobservant, but that little scoop out of the edge of the flap looks like it might be a broken piece. If not, why does it look like that? Cant see the other side of the plane to compare and cant find images on google.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715355343350383.jpg","filename":"IMG_5938.jpg"},"posted":1715355343},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996157,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715355368560255.jpg","filename":"IMG_5939.jpg"},"posted":1715355368},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996171,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"I have never seen that in my life and I watch a lot of airplane youtube. On the other hand, theoretically that should be visible on the thing where the pilot walks around and points the youtuber to the different things he checks, yes?","attachment":null,"posted":1715356474},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996232,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996156
It's an cutout, likely due to a crack that began to form. A small portion of the flap can be removed and still be considered effective","attachment":null,"posted":1715381974},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996235,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996232
https://nationalpost.com/news/we-know-about-this-alaska-airlines-apologizes-for-handwritten-note-on-damaged-wing-of-plane
>In what may be the most obvious corporate statement of the year, Alaska Airlines says a handwritten note on a damaged wing flap of a Boeing 737 that said “We know about this” may not have been the “best approach” to ensuring the confidence of the travelling public.
>The airline made the statement after a passenger snapped a picture of the note on a July 28 flight from Burbank, California to Seattle, which pointed down to a portion of the wing flap that appears to have been cut out.
>Alaska Airlines said the note was pointing to a permanent and FAA-approved repair to the flap.","attachment":null,"posted":1715382233},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996282,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996232
>>1996235
Fucking insane that this is done and allowed","attachment":null,"posted":1715400227},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996287,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996282
Why?","attachment":null,"posted":1715401622},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996300,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996282
You strike me as the kind of person who'd send back your entire meal if you found a single piece of fluff on the plate","attachment":null,"posted":1715408386},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996355,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996287
>>1996300
The “repair” is that a fucking piece of the aircraft is lobbed off? And im the Karen?","attachment":null,"posted":1715441561},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996359,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996156
Speed hole, don't worry about it","attachment":null,"posted":1715443314},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996366,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996355
It's a Boeing, at least that part was intentionally taken off.","attachment":null,"posted":1715446682},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996394,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996156
Can you get the aircraft registration number?","attachment":null,"posted":1715458832},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996395,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715459330622199.jpg","filename":"N703VL_FLAP_TRAILING_EDGE.jpg"},"posted":1715459330},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996396,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"How it should look.","attachment":null,"posted":1715459416},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996402,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996355
>im the Karen?
Sounds like it","attachment":null,"posted":1715462980},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996487,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996402
>plane is inspected for cracks
>oh no, there is one on the wing!
>hacksaws it off
>no more cracks!
Problem?","attachment":null,"posted":1715533682},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996540,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996487
Yes, and?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1715555877345798.png","filename":"12341.png"},"posted":1715555877},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996559,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996540
Explain how this is an acceptable procedure. What is the rationale behind not replacing the damaged piece of the craft, other than the operator being too cheap to pay for the proper repair?
We are talking about peoples lives here.","attachment":null,"posted":1715564935},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996562,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996559
nta and I am not a pilot or an engineer, but I know from experience that there are plenty of cases outside aviation where something looks unsafe and it's actually completely safe, likewise there's plenty of cases where something looks safe and is actually dangerous. if you're a reasonably intelligent adult you've probably run into stuff like that yourself, and can extrapolate from there that going by gut feel doesn't tell you anything","attachment":null,"posted":1715566387},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996579,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996559
>We are talking about peoples lives here
I would challenge you to explain how this endangers anyone, the flap can still adjust the chord line. You'd be impressed at just how much can be broken on a plane without it being considered unairworthy.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-07/MMEL_B-737_Rev_62_Draft.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjL_NOv2YmGAxW5v4kEHcbwApMQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2540f3Evuv3Wu3Ahbz7rDi","attachment":null,"posted":1715571952},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996584,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996580
So your issue isn't the crack that they have taken care of it's some hypothetical other crack that they don't know about. Gee I wonder why they're not fixing some crack that doesn't exist and you've decided they can't find. I guess you're going to magic up some reason that they're not going to replace the flap during the next scheduled major service too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715578796},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996589,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996562
That's right","attachment":null,"posted":1715580598},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996643,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996639
Nta but you're making your decision based on your emotional reaction to it ("It looks bad, therefore it is bad"). See >>1996562. Chances are if that section hadn't been removed, you wouldn't be able to see the crack. Therefore, it would be "safe" in your mind. Removal of the faulty section is one less area to constantly inspect (after identification of the problem) and even risk failing in flight - a far more dangerous outcome than cutting it out in a controlled environment adhering to prescribed practice.","attachment":null,"posted":1715601779},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996644,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996643
there's no sense in trying to reason with people like this, they run their entire lives based on knee jerk reactions and feelings. if you push him into a corner he's just going to start screeching about DEI and the blacks","attachment":null,"posted":1715602156},{"board":"n","thread":1996156,"pid":1996975,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996559
It works because it stops the crack from propagating further. Replacing an entire flap section for something that small would take time and cause costly delays. And that assumes they have spares in stock, which I doubt. It will most probably get replaced in the next major maintenance due whenever.
>>1996579
Kek, posting an entire mmel to someone who can't understand how a stress relieving cutout works.","attachment":null,"posted":1715743597}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995195,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Australia can build nice modern metro stations, why can’t the US? New York’s city 2nd Ave Subway extension costed billions and the station built looked like shit, mid at best. Australia does the same yet builds great stations, all modern, functional with great station amenities and architecture. Metro trains are fully automated as well with platform screen doors on every station.
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with mutts? This is not an Anglo-issue (London finishes Crossrail and Toronto is going big on transit expansions and major renovations), it appears only mutts are the outlier, why?","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714930626463304.jpg","filename":"IMG_4979.jpg"},"posted":1714930626},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995202,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995195
We are rather corrupt and distracted.
This project did cost a lot for sydney-ans, but at the end of the day USians value public transport less. We are incredibly bloated in regards to construction, permitting, and everything like that. No only is there a cultural distaste for spending state money on both sides of the aisle when it comes to infrastructure, but it ends up so hampered with consulting and pandering that it just stagnates. Look at Cali's horrifying Hi-Speed Rail experiment.
Consider the problems of scale as well. The NYC subway has an annual ridership of 2 billion. The sydney Metro? 20 million.
I wish we were better too. The MTA and Port Authority need a Napoleon.","attachment":null,"posted":1714935610},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995223,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995195
Washington DC Metro had good looking stations and the trains looked nice inside.","attachment":null,"posted":1714942086},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995229,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995195
if i didn't know how SAS stations look like i'd say this sydney station looks utterly soulless. it is insane how much difference even a beige tone can make compared to full sterile white","attachment":null,"posted":1714942884},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995231,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995223
I agree with you that Sydney Metro is awesome. They have my favorite aboveground metro stations of any in the world.
>What the fuck is wrong with mutts?
For some reason that I'm sure some Anon can answer, American municipal governments have the worst culture and norms of any in the world. Since it's city governments that often take the lead on public transit projects, and since the people in American city governments are literally brain-dead or chained to NIMBYs, American public transit projects are often smothered in the cradle, or ruined in the design phase.
>Had
I was just in DC. The underground stations in the core section are still very nice and pleasing to be in.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714942983156558.jpg","filename":"SydneyMetro29.jpg"},"posted":1714942983},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995232,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995231
First part was meant for >>1995195","attachment":null,"posted":1714943047},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995233,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995195
>New York’s city 2nd Ave Subway extension costed billions and the station built looked like shit, mid at best.
I'm not saying the 2nd ave line looks amazing but your pics aren't exactly attractive either. When I think of nice looking subways I think of either Mexico City brutalist style, or Russia/DPRK commie nightmare dystopia style. But maybe it's just me.","attachment":null,"posted":1714944052},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995383,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995195
1. This is literally Australia's only metro line, and it is brand new. It does not represent the country as a whole. A better comparison to the US would be the suburban train network of Sydney to SEPTA regional rail.
2. That doesn't look any better than SAS stations.
3. As this is a new metro line and system, automation and platform screen doors should be expected as standard. The newest US metro line is also automated with platform doors. SAS is an extension of a line from 1917, so it is bounded by constraints the Sydney Metro North West Line is not subject to.
4. Syndey metro is closer in scale to the JFK Airtrain than the Nyc Subway lol.
5. Can't speak to the politics of Australia, but the Nyc subway has numerous factors slowing it's expansion and modernization and ballooning its costs: corruption; state government, which is sometimes antagonistic toward the city, controlling a city service; contractors, sub contractors, sub sub contractors, sub sub sub contractors; unions; decades of deferred maintenance; hurricane damage and future risk of hurricanes; significant amounts of fare evasion, low fares compared to rest of world.
>>1995233
The former Soviet metros are beautiful","attachment":null,"posted":1715018326},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995401,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995195
>Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with mutts?
NY is just especially egregious here, even for the US. They wanted massive stations with full mezzanines and extensive back-of-house space, but refused to use cut and cover to build them because they didnt want to inconvenience dr*vers. As a result it takes far longer to build the station in the first place and building entirely underground is far more difficult. Eventually they were at least convinced to move some of the back-of-house space aboveground to cut costs. There's other issues as well, but that's the biggest factor. Compare to LA Metro's new D line extension, the first segment is on schedule to open next year and cost about 720$ million per mile, which is pretty close to the cost you see for other high income countries. Never thought I'd say the words, but I'm actually pretty proud of how well LA is expanding its transit system.","attachment":null,"posted":1715025298},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995409,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995195
Dude in Toronto our transit expansion is painfully slow and always delayed.
We have a line 4 years delayed and it's an LRT rather than full subway","attachment":null,"posted":1715028953},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1995440,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"DC is probably one of the best US metro systems, they've actually managed to continue system expansions, decades after initial construction something most other US metros seem to fail at.
That being said DC paid out the ass for it, they did at least get the job done.","attachment":null,"posted":1715042350},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1996927,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995195
>new station looks new
yeah no shit. New stations built in US looks nice too.","attachment":null,"posted":1715724054},{"board":"n","thread":1995195,"pid":1996979,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1995195
does australia have black people?","attachment":null,"posted":1715748052}]}
{"title":null,"posts":[{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1989995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">be airbus
>do nothing
>stay winning because your only competitor can't build anything except a rehash of a 60 year old design that keeps nosediving","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712456931995320.jpg","filename":"bus.jpg"},"posted":1712456931},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990074,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989995
>buy an Airbus A320 Neo for your airline
>choose to equip the aircraft with super efficient PW1100G engines that are unique to the Neo
>the aircraft delivery date is delayed due lack of engine availability
>the aircraft finally receives its engines and is delivered
>said engines proceed to explode after only a handful of flights, your A320N is now grounded and a financial black hole.","attachment":null,"posted":1712497721},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990127,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989995
I hate this gay world where small point to point airplanes are better
I wanted bigger and badder jumbos","attachment":null,"posted":1712518566},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990143,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990127
We could have had a system of ultra efficient regional turboprops operating from every single little local airport feeding giant hubs specializing in funneling in all the feeders and putting people on massive jumbos to other hubs where you reverse the process and take a puddle jumper right to your destination.
Instead we got a moderate amount of medium sized airports located somewhere outside a city that require everyone to drive themselves there in cars just to sit in some sort of A737neoMAX that brings you to a "large" airport that doesn't excel at anything, and unless you want to stay in NY/Chicago/LA you have to get on another 3x3 shitbox to bring you to a medium sized airport somewhere kinda sorta near your destination.
What happened? American perspective obviously but is it any different anywhere else?","attachment":null,"posted":1712523648},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990146,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990074
the cope is strong with this one","attachment":null,"posted":1712524893},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990147,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990143
Your idea means 2 connections (unless you live near a hub)
Current system is set up for 1 or no connections for most domestic flights. I'll take that one","attachment":null,"posted":1712526498},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990157,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990147
1 connection and a pain in the ass drive on either side","attachment":null,"posted":1712529961},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990184,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990146
that's not cope
JetBlue N2048J has been parked for months because of that","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712538731881177.png","filename":"Screenshot_20240407-211119.png"},"posted":1712538731},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990187,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990157
Not for me","attachment":null,"posted":1712539248},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990193,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990184
It’s a big problem for airlines atm that’s mostly gone under the radar, a United A320N’s engine exploded after only 4 revenue flights recently.","attachment":null,"posted":1712542596},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990194,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"They're called Boeing because that's what the plane does when it inevitably crashes.","attachment":null,"posted":1712542954},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990201,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990074
So you're saying that not only Boeing is an unsafe failure but now P&W can't put together a working product as well?
WTF is wrong with corporate America?","attachment":null,"posted":1712547849},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990204,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990201
I mean GE seems fine rn (which is ironic considering people blame Boeing’s current business philosophy on Jack Welch’s influence) but Pratt is really struggling with fan blade durability issues on the GTF series, which happens to be the A320 Neo series engine of choice. Moral of the story is to buy LEAP instead.","attachment":null,"posted":1712548952},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990230,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990074
>your A320N is now grounded and a financial black hole.
That's for P&W to cover, not you (yes they will pay your estimated losses from downtime due to engine issues on those new geared turbofans). From what I remember those issues only affected the smallest engines and have otherwise been fixed. The whole family of GTFs gives you >15% more fuel economy which is huge.","attachment":null,"posted":1712559732},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990304,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">be boeing
>do nothing
>stay winning because your only competitor can't build anything except rehashes of a 40 year old design and an "extra wide body" that isn't wide enough","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712592267792965.jpg","filename":"triplesevenx.jpg"},"posted":1712592267},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990338,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990187
Typical boomer mentality.","attachment":null,"posted":1712598671},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990353,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990204
GE teamed up with SNECMA/Safran tho","attachment":null,"posted":1712602809},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990371,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990204
Ironically, RR's XWB-97 engines also have durability issues, especially in in Dubai's climate, where their would-be largest customer is located. GE and Emirates are the reason the 777X could survive its 5 year delay.","attachment":null,"posted":1712609999},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990387,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990304
>be A350
>clean sheet design
>in service
>be 777X
>update to existing design
>lol","attachment":null,"posted":1712611671},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990478,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990387
At least the 777X is somewhat innovative despite being a derivative of an existing airframe, it has funky folding tips while the A350 is a larger but less ambitious 787 clone which uses less carbon fibre.","attachment":null,"posted":1712635026},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990495,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990478
Huh? How isn't the A350 innovative?","attachment":null,"posted":1712649378},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990656,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Ahem. Also 737 Max's seats was a nightmare; specifically designed to make passengers uncomfortable so I am glad with Turkish airlines decision.","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1712728955717669.jpg","filename":"Screenshot_2024-04-10-09-01-45-913_org.adblockplus.browser-edit.jpg"},"posted":1712728955},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990673,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990656
>737 Max's seats was a nightmare
I though people on this board were somewhat less retarded
Plane manufacturers are not responsible for seats, the airlines choose and install those.","attachment":null,"posted":1712741473},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990740,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990478
How new the "basic design" of an airplane is is important. The more recent it is, the more reliable the plane can be based on various new technologies and experiences.
The A350 was designed with 21st century HPC and has the most powerful computers of our time, but the 777X is an improvement on a product developed in the Game Boy era, and some of the avionics are probably antiques.","attachment":null,"posted":1712769978},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1990861,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990478
>it has funky folding tips
i give it 6 months after entry into service for one to fall off, jam upwards, or otherwise move undesirably during flight.","attachment":null,"posted":1712826276},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1992601,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989995
Superior European engineering vs Americuck Profiteering","attachment":null,"posted":1713746413},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1992602,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990074
Americans cant even build engines kek","attachment":null,"posted":1713746504},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1992615,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990304
Winning is when your plane is still not in service","attachment":null,"posted":1713750514},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1992675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990127
yeah so do the airlines it turns out. airbus killed the A380 too early.","attachment":null,"posted":1713768598},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1992785,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992675
If jumbos are making a come back then why did Boeing just stop manufacturing the best plane they've ever offered?","attachment":null,"posted":1713835213},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1992800,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990074
>Can't build plane
>Can't build engines either","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1713846852665785.jpg","filename":"1658152303382008.jpg"},"posted":1713846852},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1992805,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990074
P&W GTF series has problems across the board, and it's not a problem isolated to Airbus. A big part of the reason Bombardier had to unload CSeries was the delays and technical problems caused by the P&W GTF, which was CSeries' sole source engine. Embraer E2 is also having problems with P&W GTF. Mitsubishi's termination of the SpaceJet program was also at least partially attributable to the P&W GTF.","attachment":null,"posted":1713849567},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1993441,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1992675
No one wanted them for ages and it wasn't viable as a freighter so airbus canned them","attachment":null,"posted":1714089926},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1993464,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1990201
DIE and BRIDGE... Basically far too many browns and blacks being hired based on skin color instead of actual qualifications based on colorblindness and suitability for the position cratering profits and QA.","attachment":null,"posted":1714099110},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1993583,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993464
>b..b..but blacks and browns DAE the west has fallen muh DEI","attachment":{"attachment_url":"https://i.4cdn.org/n/1714166180985873.jpg","filename":"jack.jpg"},"posted":1714166180},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1993605,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993464
so did DEI exist in the 90s? Because the troubles began with the McDonalds merger, much in the past. The fruit of that misfortune is only bearing out in its entirety now. Companies on this scale don't collapse overnight if they aren't doing risky finacial shit, they rot. I would point to Intel as a less severe case.","attachment":null,"posted":1714179466},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1993675,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1989995
>>be airbus
>>develop FBW 40 years ago
>>tweak control of every newer plane so it flies exactly like a320
>>planes basically flies it self, if it weren't for regulations pilots could literally watch porn and finger two stewardesses at the same time
>>say that airlines can save on type rating costs due to every plane flying like a320
>>regulators buy it
>>airlines gobble your cum..i mean hydraulic fluid because they want to save money
>>give too good to be true leasing option for airlines
>>stay winning because your only competitor builds planes where pilot is expected to stay in control for more than 3% of the flight","attachment":null,"posted":1714222888},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1993685,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Embraer should be wrecking those old farts","attachment":null,"posted":1714231821},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1996876,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1993605
McDonnell Douglas merger is from the same disease that DEI comes from. They are both creations of the financialization of corporate America. The merger of Boeing and MD ended up just making the board an elitist Business School graduate circlejerk.
Those same people had friends in Private Equity firms and made DEI a religion in the company so they could score fictional high scores that would entice investment.
These people have absolutely zero engineering, technical, or even logistical skills. They have as much experience as the diversity hires they brought in to win their Wall Street BINGO card.","attachment":null,"posted":1715706959},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1996994,"name":"Anonymous","msg":"Sadly to the contrary of what "avgeeks" and normies think, Airliners are treated as commodities. The c-suite of large airlines do not give a fuck about the manufacturer just the lowest price, what performance fits them and time to delivery. European airlines most likely get a better price from airbus, and vice versa with American airlines.","attachment":null,"posted":1715766428},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1996995,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996994
well airbus is basically a state-owned enterprise. it exists to serve its own bureaucratic class the same way boeing exists to serve its parasitic investor class. luckily for airbus its possible for the interests of the bureaucracy to align with safety & quality manufacturing, whereas unfortunately for boeing (and honestly, everyone) the malevolence of american greed is basically incompatible with the idea of doing a good job.
so boeing will keep murdering whistleblowers and bribing the right politicians because at the end of day that's cheaper than giving a fuck.
but nobody should be fooled for one second that airbus actually cares, or that airbus is somehow a good company. its not. its actually pretty retarded and the decisions they make about meeting the market are almost always the wrong ones.","attachment":null,"posted":1715766990},{"board":"n","thread":1989995,"pid":1997008,"name":"Anonymous","msg":">>1996995
Welcome to the 21st century","attachment":null,"posted":1715778413}]}