/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners General

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/<wbr>1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGq<wbr>wSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpH<wbr>w6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwi<wbr>ci/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77<wbr>TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

Previous thread >>7167898

how many floating loomis heads have you grinded so far this week?

>>7170361
Why don't you fucking kill yourself.

>>7170363
a little early in the thread to be crabbing this hard wouldn't you say friend?

>>7170340
Heres an old digital painting from my cool webcomic in 2019

Marielx

Hey i have my personal crab, does that mean im progressing as an artist?

Anonymous

>>7170414
I'm sure "2000s flash game" anon would love to see this

>>7169640
I gotta learn how to doodle like this with color

>>7169869 >>7169887
Very well, hope you stick around for a long time to come, caffeine-anon
>>7170007
GMI
>>7170061
Orgasmic-Fart expression
>>7170066 >No books
Heresy I say! Burn the non-believer!

>>7170169
Try tapered cylinders for the forearms (drawing comics the marvel way)
>>7170262
>>7170329
>>7170345
More mileage

>>7170340
Good old collage-style thread cover
>>7170361
Etch a sketch
>>7170370
Never too early!
>>7170372
Hard round brush so you know it’s legit
>>7170402
Hey, I reserve that title
>>7170436
Amen
>>7170438
Talking a walk through /ic/ at night

Friendly reminder this thread is fucking worthless when autistic retard narcisistic niggers like marielx post and the lost autist who thinks he can give criticism and mass replies are here.
abandon and go somewhere else, you won't gain anything of value here. you arent going to improve in this place.
Leave and find a real art community.

>>7170456
people genuinely come here for advice?

>>7170445
Why the fuck are mass replying
You aren't even close being a beg yet you are trying to give advice???

>>7170445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7<wbr>cDY7YDsg

try this anon, you'll improve pretty quick!

Keep it up

>>7170345
There are a few things you want to get as close to perfect as you can with figure studies, first are the line of the shoulders and the tilt of the hip. doesn't matter which landmark you use to check it, but make it as accurate as possible.
When trying to understand curves like the leg contours or breast shapes, use straight lines first, as few as you can and start adding more as you begin to see the form more clearly.
Be careful with adding shapes like the circles in the shoulder where its not really attaching to anything in particular, and will probably make you lose accuracy. Also don't chicken scratch, for contours, lightly erase and then go over the form once you develop the outline with the nuance you want, finding form and outlining are two separate steps.

>>7170459
NTA but motherfucker someone has to mass reply? Without this dude or that Pawell fuck no one would be replying to anyone. Stop crying like a bitch and post your work and reply to other people.

>>7170482
If you want advice from literal chris-chan tier autists, then sure go ahead bro.
all the power to you, im sure it'll work out.

>>7170483
This might be surprising to you but you can choose to just ignore any advice or critique you don't think is valid. Incredible concept I know. We need to be draw and posting art more than being crabs. That's why these threads have gone to shit because crabs are afraid to be told their art sucks by someone who is at their same skill level.

HOW DO I GET INTO ANATOMY

I think I'm done with gesture for good

Sup beg, please end me.

>>7170481
i kneel and coom
>>7170475
very beg, but acceptable for keys to drawing, move to next project
>>7170361
damn, did you draw this with no sketch layer? do you just sit down and start putting final contours like KJG? no wonder you have personal crabs, this is awesome
>>7170372
nice example of bad value range. also why are you posting 5 years old art? you are supposed to post what you drew today
>>7170355
you could pick as reference mecha girl for example. or you can say fuck keys to drawing and pick some anime figure drawing book. but be aware skipping fundies typically ends up with /asg levels of permabegness
>>7170353
your portrait is basic, but nothing fundamentally wrong. you can level up rendering. for example:
goodreads.com/book/show/31017263-ho<wbr>w-to-draw-portraits-in-charcoal

How do I get my accuracy up quick, are bargue plates a bad idea for a beginner?

powerleveling goofy floating head studies until i get bored and swap to trying to start learning fantasy landscape concept art

Marielx

>>7170503
No no, the thing is the animation does not save when you erase, thats why it looks like the drawing suddenly appears, it doesnt count all the erasing, only the lines that are kept.

Anonymous

>>7170541
no thanks, I'd rather draw princess peach in a micro bikini with her ass in the air

Requesting this course or at least brushes that come with it.

https://www.proko.com/course-lesson<wbr>/what-you-need-to-know-about-brushe<wbr>s/downloads

asked a few times but haven't gotten a serious answer. how did you build up your intuitive understanding of space, should i continue doing loomis mannikins from imagination or design backgrounds and vehicles per Robertson. Both? or other methods recommended?

assume I'm, at least high beg, I can in rotate ze cube, and don't completely fail at placing figures in space currently, just want to get better. Things I'm struggling with for example are figuring out where the unseen edge of say a pinky finger would emerge from a hand from imagination and of course more exotic foreshortening.

>>7170503
>but be aware skipping fundies typically ends up with /asg levels of permabegness
Yeah thats what im afraid of. Is skipping projects on ktd bad?

>>7170571
ktd is just observation drawing, you can get the same thing from master copies and live figure drawing. There's nothing you are 'skipping'

any challenging box/cube exercises I can do?<br>No brainless mileage like "1000 boxes" please

Can someone fix my loomis? I still think the left makes more sense, but obviously the right looks better

Reposting my thing again. Since the old thread died.
Full scale since the file is huge.
>https://files.catbox.moe/879o5g.pn<wbr>g

>>7170582
move face down so line is on top of eyes

Gonna do a bunch of NPC portraits this weekend I think

Genuinely when should I start with Vilppu? I'm worried I'm too /beg/

>>7170582
I tried anon. Remember to define the side plane of the head and note how far away the eye is from that.

>>7170630
love it, she looks hot even in the thumbnail...

Is small round brush a meme and if not why not?

Learning how to draw clothes finally, and subsequently I'm gonna need to learn how to actually start blocking in values because trying to do all the folds with just lines looks like ass.

>>7170643
round brush is a brush
why not what

>>7170582
I think you gotta make sure the center line comes down real straight off the intersecting angle.

>>7170652
I'm against categoricals. What kind of brush to use depends on what you want the result to look like.
I support the idea of starting simple but decisive. If you can't define sharp change, your gradients will be even more silly anyway.
But you can play with anything, just do not think you need a special brush that will make you a better artist. This is why it is recommended to just stick to hrb while you are a dummy.

>gave up on FWAP because the pictures are too low res and small

>>7169906
>op is the proof. Been doing literally the same shit for months and months. Slapping on features randomly without any kind thought of the underlying structure.
Could anybody help me out?
>>7169902
Its literally the character I am trying to draw.
>Copies
Will do

>>7170445
Stop using so much airbrush, you are going to learn less while using it and your pictures will look worse
>>7170577
Draw a box giving birth

>>7170607
Values are flat and there's not enough hard edges. Everything is like a soft blob. This is especially apparent on the bonemold armor, which looks weirdly fleshy and soft. I'm too beg to point out anything else, hope this helps at least.

>>7170607
using screenshot to frame her is bad idea because too much noise. in conjunction with the blurry elf you get like inverse focus. view attracted to anything but elf

>>7170575
I'm always thinking is the book really good to learn fundies or is it really a meme?

Someone help me correct the proportion the proportion im lost here<br>https://files.catbox.moe/qo2npp.png<wbr>

>>7170571
Why *would* you skip projects?
Impatience is instant ngmi

>>7170800
its perfect there is nothing you can improve on

>>7170798
skipping the boring stuff is how I improved the fastest frfr no cap

I've been drawing for more than ten years, but could never get myself to draw for more than twenty minutes a day. Knowing that I'll never be good hurts a lot. Is there anything I can do?

how the fuck is he figuring out the height of the top plane here? Is there a formula for it?

He does it again on pg 46 and just says feel it out lol

>>7170883
go back in time and ask your mom not to drink while she's pregnant

I've decided I will copy-memorize a bunch of anime so I actually have something to draw, otherwise I'll be a permabeg studycel who can't draw for fun

>>7170884
>height of the top plane here
What's a top plane anon.

>>7170897
the plane parallel with the viewer

>>7170906
Can you mark it in your loomis example.

>>7170910
you clearly have no idea how to answer my question

Is krita /beg/gar friendly? I have been doing /trad/ but got a wacom recently and I don't really know which platform is suitable.

>>7170931
It's free mate. Go make up your own opinion.

>>7170931
yes
any works the same but some more bloated. you can use anything no big difference, krita is good

>>7170931
Dave Rapoza uses it. Good enough for him, good enough for (You).
it also doesnt have niggerlicious bullshit like CSP's single core performance or hebrew subscription model

>>7170934
>>7170937
Thanks, converting to digital now. Uncle Ted's gonna be disappointed.

continuation of my bridgman cop(e)ying
>>7170438
sexo

>>7170884
has anyone actually got through chapter one of FDFAW. I'm putting in real time into mastering each page and it kicks my ass each week. Do you just emerge an /int/ after all the perspective work?

>>7170884
>>7170906
>>7170916
You type like a retard, but in case anyone reading this has the same question - read "Framed Perspective vol. 1" - there are step by step guides on how to divide planes in perspective.

Hi guys, I've been getting back into digital art these days and it's kicking my ass. I've mostly been doing studies to see what I can learn from my inspirations, and I got to the Bloodborne art book.

I'm really struggling to replicate this kind of texturing, not just from an art perspective but rather not knowing what tools to use. When I try to blend things the way I see them it just becomes a pain in the ass because I have no clue what brush to use for what so it doesn't take an eternity.

Can anyone who knows wtf they're doing tell me more about this? Pic related.

>>7170937
Is Krita better than CSP for painting? How about line drawing like for comics?

I need help figuring out if i did this drawn correctly enough.
I wanted to draw a a girl and a mustang 2024 model in perspective while being relatively proportional to eachother (more or less)
At first and second glance does the perspective look ok.
Ofc the bodywork wont 100%match the lines of the original car. I still cant do that.

>>7170984
Anon, Krita is enough for whatever you want to do. It is already a pro level tool. Just try it. Unless you work for marvel, Disney or any big Hollywood studios forcing you to do shit on 8k with a million edit effects in photoshop, you will be more than covered by Krita.

>>7170990
all I'm asking is that I already have csp, but people notoriously think it's shit for painting. apparently, csp has a reputation for being a line-art only program, so I'm wondering if that's really the case, or if I should try out Krita for painting. I've been trying to paint in csp, and it's been shit, either because of my skills, or the brush engines there. idk

>>7170992
>but people notoriously think it's shit for painting. apparently, csp has a reputation for being a line-art only program,
What am I even reading right now

>>7170992
no different
what this shit for paint could even mean
but you can instead just in this moment just download Krita and see does it makes you feel any better.
why people are like that
"brushengines" my ass. it is never software problem it is you problem

>>7170992
Its nothing but faggot shit larp just like how "Macbooks are for creative types" that everyone used to peddle years ago.
Tools are tools.

I'm trying Drawing For The Absolute And Utter Beginner now, seems retard friendly enough.

>>7171075
What's that in the sand over there, is that the script?

how do i the environment the good the environemtn the good

>>7171091
Learn the basics of composition

>>7171085
Legs.
The shins +heels are aboot 17% shorter then the thighbone.
In cranial units, 3 craniums for the femur, 2.5 from knee to heel.

Arms in a jesus wants a hug pose tip of the finger to tip of the finger are about as broad as a person is tall.
However as far as

Proportions of the body, and limbs.
Here is a pic

>>7170529 >>7170607
I would try lighting a simple sphere within the scene that you want to do first, and then try applying that to the figure / background; having the same value everywhere makes nothing in particular stand out so that also makes the whole composition somewhat bland.
>>7170465
Thanks!
>>7170509
GMI
>>7170520
She’ll have trouble eating with those teef
>>7170622
Looking forward to them
>>7170628
Saved
>>7170629
Excellent
>>7170630 >>7170631
I wish I could draw as loosely
>>7170642
Thousands of these
>>7170645
Excellent
>>7170655
Wish I could draw hair
>>7170681
It’s going to be a battle, it’s going to be tough
>>7170697
Kinky
>>7170734
Airbrush is just fun for doodling around with the forms, believe me - I get my hours in with hard round brush too
>>7170763
Just making sure that the void is spotless for any time travelers who get stuck there
>>7170800 >>7170939
Just gotta keep drawing
>>7170949
Hell yeah
>>7170966
Probably want like 500-1000+ hours of just recreational drawing first before trying to tackle plates that difficult (and actually learning anything from it). You get more out of copying plates the more experienced you are, and if your current skill level is too low, you learn nothing at all from it
>>7170986
More mileage will smooth out any inconsistencies over time
>>7171065
Forms are okay just need more still life
>>7171085
More mileage
>>7171091
Study other artists

>>7170481
Thank you so much for this! It's super useful!

I sadly couldn't draw today, shit happens, but once I can I'll work on Torsos more to try and get used to them, while also taking on your advice.

could someone redline this? I don't understand her arm at all

>>7171100
Mileage incoming
As soon as i get it that is

Where is the anime anon whos studying hands

I literally only browse these threads waiting for him to post an ntr drawing 、and I check pawells progress sometimes i check here and neither of them have posted so its just shit

Hi how do I map patterns or objects in perspective? Like, if I wanted to draw this really elaborate pattern on the shirt in the left image with the character rotated how would I do that or where can I learn that?

Been trying to solidify her design for a while now but getting references for how to blazer should move with the body is difficult and I don't think I'm going to improve if I keep improvising it. it's pretty messy overall but I'll work to get it neater on the next one. Any critique is appreciated, particularly what I should be focusing on avoiding would really help

>>7171204
>she's a porkchop now
t-thanks?

>>7171216
Half the figure is extremely flat looking.

>>7170982

What program do you use? Really you should just download a bunch of textured brushes and try them out to find the ones you like the best. Pay attention to not overrendering things as well.

I wanted to try this style so I went onto the csp store and downloaded the first rake brush I saw and used it combined with the prepackaged brushes to make this. It took me so fucking long and looked horrible most of the way, so I gave up on doing a full rendering.

try finding some speedpaints in the style you want and watching their process of drawing. You could also look into photobashing for some of the teaxtures.

>>7171216
So I'm just going to take a stab in the dark and say you have a Nasuverse/Type Moon influence going on here. Mainly from how you've styled the face and the more minimal clothing design. Is she a riding jockey?

For me it feels like the design is a little too plain, which could just be me. Feels very Melty Blood/Tsukihime esque. I feel like the design could have a little more to it. Specifically coming that could break the silhouette a little more like a small pouch on the straps around her thighs. Maybe some type of ornament like a necklace etc.

Her weapon design also feels like it could have a more interesting shape to it. I'm not exactly sure what it's meant to represent but it doesn't automatically scream threatening weapon to me.

Her pants could also have some additional impressions of detail. I'm certain the type of pants don't have belt loops but the seams and stitching should be visible to give it more interest.

>>7171228
Clip Studio Paint, I'm basic like that.

>>7171221
yeah I need to learn proper shading and lighting to stop everything looking so flat, its something im working on but I've definitely been slacking in that department
>>7171230
I've never engaged with Nasuverse, but I get why you'd assume so. The outfit is a riding jockeys yeah, but its also a personal appeal of mine and i'm fine with it being plain since it matches her as a character. The weapon is meant to be a guillotine on a stick essentially, I wanted its design to be pretty angular. My older drawings have a seam along the pants, I was just lazy and forgot them here. I am thinking of adding more to the straps such as knives. Thank you sincerely for the feedback.

>>7171248
You can convey form without rendering.

One of my first try with colors<br>It's really hard, I don't really get it

>>7171250
is it mainly though more dynamic poses, I was always under the impression that to make stuff three dimensional, applying shadows and shading was the way to do it?

>>7171248
This is much better. The vertical lines of the pants and the sweater/shirt beneath the blazer lead the eyes to the face/hat. There's a flow of visual interest.

You should definitely do some studies on knives and other weaponry for inspiration.

>>7171268
Michael Hampton sensei... i kneel

>>7171268
Thank you so much for this. I'm surprised that I actually got some good insight on /ic/.

Keeping track of the top planes and perspective is something that seems so obvious but feels like an actual epiphany to me because I know I didn't take that into account at any point when I was drawing the sketch, or any sketches in the past few weeks.

Thanks again for this! It feels like I've got something tangible to focus on incorporating in future drawings. I was feeling a little aimless lately.

>>7170340
No problem, right guys?

(I know my shading sucks but this is best I can do with my current level lol)

i'm quite literally unable to place features on a face, i'm having noticiable gains and in the past week i've realized that if I hadn't give up drawing over and over again because you fucks recommend fun with a pencil that starts with those fucking heads, nowadays i'd pretty great at drawing.

>>7171340
IT LITERALLY IS YOUR FAULT. If the stupid stick didn't recommend fun with a pencil as a starter book i'd be better now
Everything but putting features on heads is coming naturally to me, Loomis is a beg trap, I thought it being a beg trap was a meme but it is real

>value range: 2H, HB, 2B, 4B, 6B
trying to work on seeing subtle shifts in tonal value. will try to use better ref photos going forward (in addition to life drawings).

>>7171319
love seeing your progress anon

>>7171319
Nice hips, nice thighs, nice clothes, nice proportions but the face being only flat colours is really fucking it up.

Should I power through FWAP or start on Drawing the Head and Hands?

>>7171432
it depends on your goals and your interests. one might be more beginner-friendly than the other but not as personally compelling for you and harder to slog through. just pick what seems more compelling and fits your goals. if they both more or less have the same appeal, do a coin flip and go through one and stick with it. the books will always be there to go over again. just go through one, try your best, and accept that things will not go perfectly.

>>7170977
yea this was unhelpful. Constructing proper height in perspective isnt multiplication. I found a quick enough cheat that I think loomis is using here, but constructing a same height bottom and top plane requires some messing around with finding your station point.

You should probably kill yourself.

>>7171373
>draws boxes without anything inside them
ngmi. This is how you burn out from drawing nigga.

>>7171268
>>7171212
Added to the collection.

kinda happy with this one so pls tear it apart

>>7171496
I feel like my sketches aren't improving much but I'm feeling more familiar with parts/movements.

>>7170798
I dont know. Its just that i dont have any mechanical thing to draw and it really doesnt interest me that much. I think im just afraid to screw it up...

What's the difference between Huston and Hampton's figure drawing books?<br>Is one easier for a /beg/ than the other?

>>7171527
They're both pretty much the same, but Hampton is more thorough.

>>7171212
holy shit an artist used the text tool instead of their shitty handwriting, bravo

>>7171212
>>7171268
Didn't know Hampton browsed /ic/
I fucking kneel

>>7171527
Steve Huston's is more about drawing figures in general and would be better suited for beginners, the first couple of chapter especially.
Hampton's focuses more specifically on constructing the figure and anatomy. He says himself in the intro you need to be able to draw forms in perspective decently well to get much out his book. Both have supplemental videos on YouTube you should check out.

>>7171561
Wait, Huston has a book? What the fuck

>>7171180
Scott Robertson has a chapter on mirroring curves

>>7171577
That filthy fucking nigger hack doesnt deserve even getting his books pirated.

>>7170577
https://youtu.be/m4jHGBmKj3c?si=Hx_<wbr>lnUSNYSBrEyM0

I wonder if anyone on ic even knows who this guy is anymore

>>7170645
I like feet and hands aesthetically but not as a sexual fetish, is there a word for that ?

>>7171268
>>7171212
Based

>>7171216
I thought this was Kisuke from Bleach from the thumbnail

>>7170481
how'd you get this good anon ?give detailed guide for begs pls ,love your choices in line and shading btw

>>7171380
Close call. Thanks for calling that out
Gonna upload once I'm done eating, I guess

all I do is refresh ic all day, research ways to learn drawing and painting, hoard courses and books (picrel), go on twitter and drool over artists I love seeing, refresh ic and lit again and then never actually draw. it's over for me

>>7171595
Retard. I skipped through all that reading and just eyeballed it.
Don't care. No time to play around. I'll learn it on my own and contact it whenever I hit a roadblock or whateve

>>7171595
drawing is for faggots, real niggas skip the line art process and throw down big blobs of color and then refine them into figures like a sculptor
rather than a trillion books it just requires that you completely change the way you see the world

>>7171595
>>7171596
Ah yes, analysis paralysis combined with the paradox of choice. A classic /ic/ phenomenon.

>>7171595
many such cases. only thing you can do is it to just do it. open dynamic sketching and do it motherfucker.

>>7171596
fellows really allow themselves to get trapped like this rather than just do a single live study / master copy

I was trying to copy the style of an artist (ohuton H01a @nyr50ml on twitter) but I failed miserably<br>this looks like Adventure Time or something like that lol

Drawing daily until I stop being shit.
Really dropped the ball this fucking time. I am fucking trash.

Tonight's shitty doodle. I really need to grind faces really fucking hard and feet. I am utterly fucking baffled with how fucking hopeless I am with something as simple as fucking shoes/feet.

Somebody said my faces are flat and featureless as shit like slapping a sticker on a shit lego. I agree and want to stop doing that.

>>7171319
missing texture back makes my eyes bleed , nice girl

>>7171609
maybe learn perspective (basic perspective for now) and start using simple 3d shapes to construct the human form
use boxes and cylinders, I know some people think that is like a meme for some reason, but it works, at least your characters are going to look 3d

>>7171609
do figure drawing until you can easily put an ellipse in space for the rib cage and a box (or triangle thing) for the pelvis.

I just can't get into digital drawing, it fucking sucks major donkey balls
>awkward pen grip
>awkward drawing surface
>have to learn the actual software and a billion shortcuts
>have to adjust to pen sensitivity and different unnatural line qualities
>eyes are burning because you have to stare intently on your screen the whole time
I genuinely don't get how you guys can do this every day
It fucking sucks

>>7171625
I'm gonna share a crazy secret with you, anon.
You don't have to do it if you don't enjoy it. Neat, huh?

>>7171625
digital sucks and is half the fun of learning real mediums. drawing really opens up when you start getting into rendering & color with ink/marker/paints.

>>7171627
I'm completely aware, dear anon
Its obviously just a rant on my side

>>7171268
This is a much rougher sketch (and a much more challenging but fun pose.) but I was able to catch myself a bit more with drawing things out of perspective. However, I'm sure there's more mistakes that I'm blind too at 5AM that I'll be more conscious about after sleep.

>>7171625
While it's definitely awkward at first, once you get into the rhythm of it it feels much easier to experiment with your sketches compared to traditional.

Having one of these things makes it so you can easily adjust brush sizes with the wheel. Then only adding the shortcuts you actually use on these keys.

When you don't have to open up any menus to quickly lasso something, transform mode, warp the size or shape of the selection it becomes really intuitive.

That being said, that period when you're not comfortable with all this it does feel shitty trying to remember shortcuts or how to get whatever program to do what you want it to do.

>>7171625
Either you get used to it, find solutions for the problems you have, or give up.
>have to learn the actual software and a billion shortcuts
You only need to learn a few parts of the program as you go. Stop thinking that just because something is there, you need to learn it all at once.

I haven't drawn anything the whole weekend despite intending ti <br>I should probably just quit for good(have been saying this for years, never actually did)

How do you do studies? Is it just trying to draw in a specific style?

watercolor and brushes are difficult to use <br>probably need to do at least a hundred more of these

I'm feeling overwhelmed with the options

>>7171141 Cute
>>7171151 Form was felt
>>7171142 From henceforth I name him "trylsc anon.” He pops back in from time to time
>>7171121 Excellent
>>7171162 Hell yeah
>>7171204 Nice forms
>>7171212 Saved
>>7171216 More mileage, copying plates
>>7171228 soul GMI
>>7171252 Still life / study other artists first
>>7171257 Soul
>>7171212 >>7171268 I will record these as my first encounters ever with the anon known as "OtakuMindy.” Truly a level to aspire to.
>>7171319 Excellent
>>7171360 More of these
>>7171373 Looks good, draw other things too
>>7171444 >>7171497 Forms are okay, let us keep drawing
>>7171474 Nice
>>7171490 The grind continues
>>7171503 More mileage
>>7171521 Not sure what just happened
>>7171576 Cute
>>7171608 Good lighting
>>7171609 Just gotta keep at it
>>7171636 Nice
>>7171690 Soul
>>7171716 Hell yeah

I define mileage as years of: studies, accurately copying other artists, accurately copying Morpho/Loomis/Hampton/Bridgman/etc plates, drawing from memory / imagination, drawing random shit spontaneously, memory repetitions, drawing + overlaying the reference (as recommended by Japanese filename anon), conscious analysis and conscious fixing of mistake-patterns, because if you draw long enough you have to start noticing the same patterns, then it’s a matter of addressing them through repeating this vicious cycle for many hundreds of hours, many thousands of hours, before even the slightest improvement is even discernable ‒ and if you have no talent like me, you already know how much suffering you’re in for.

>when a permabeg thinks he knows what he's talking about
so fucking funny to see

>>7170340
Got a question about how objects rotate in perspective drawing. Pic related.

Two of the vanishing points are below the canvas. Red arrows in pic point to them. The red circled prism is what I am trying to draw the skateboard to look like, but some of the planes are pointing away from the top vanishing point. The prism with the A, B, and C labels at the center of the canvas is where the skateboard should be.

Do I have to make every line in 3-point perspective drawing align towards a vanishing point? If so, how do I achieve this downward rotated angle?

I feel like I'm doing a math problem at this point.

>>7170456
>marielx
LMFAO
I remember this retarded faggot from 6 years ago shitting up /v/ermin fight club threads!
Hahahahah!

>>7171747
mass reply schizos are based because they're the only reason my posts ever get a single (you)

>>7171754
>getting some inane gibberish from a mass-replying permabeg is somehow "based" to anon
You're a fucking loser

help how do I draw boobs better, I feel like the upper body looks the worst out of it all. The boob shape seems just wrong, it's one of the parts I really don't want to get wrong.

>>7171754
I literally want to kill myself hen I get a worthless shit (You) from a mass replying subhuman

>>7171764
The figure is turned slightly, but the boobs are doing their own thing it the oposire direction. Make up your mind.

>>7171783
You absolutely do not. Post your work bucko and I'll do the same.

>>7171795
heh... nothin personell but its already here, its the one that made you shake in your boots when you scrolled by...

>>7171586
>I wonder if anyone on ic even knows who this guy is anymore
I do, he inspired me to draw these cubes in the first place

So you guys have any cool prompts for a drawing? I'll take anything.

>>7171807
A fencing match on a rickety rope bridge

>>7171811
I can't even imagine that in my head.
I'll try it but idk

I’m still not drawing. You’d just tell me I’m NGMI, anyway.

how did you learn to place features properly with loomis construction, feels like every artist that tries to teach it is just relying on intuition.

The mouth in particular is fucking impossible to place correctly.

>>7171319
>>7171594
The pic is really nice anon but, there are subtle details that are easy to miss or confusing. Like she doesn't look like she's holding her weight with her arm at all, then I realized... oh right, she's holding to the bar with her legs, but, that's not either.. Is she supposed to be tied to the bar by that lace/rope?, that would be HOT, but I would like to see that being shown clearly, wraped tighter and maybe a couple of wrap arounds on the bar. Anyways it's a great pic already, congrats.

I want to draw something that isn't just practice study copy, but i've got no ideas whatsoever.<br>Is that a sign of NGMIness or is that normal and you'll get more creative with mileage?

>>7171845
did you ever read what mr Loomis himself has to say about it?

>>7171852
i read the proportions page, but did you mean copy the plates?

>>7171851
Lately I'm reading many comments like this, and I wonder if that's a thing happening with the new generations. The lack of creativity and motivation, they have no soul inside them it seems. I don't think it's their fault, but a result of a deliberate program by the global corporations. They created the perfect consumer, a numb blob, that doesn't think, just consume. It doesn't create, just consume. I'm so certain about it, and at the same time, I don't want that to be truth, I hope I'm just being paranoid.

First time drawing digitally. Still haven't gotten used to timed gesture drawing yet.

>>7171858
I don't think it's the corporations but yea.
I used to be way more creative when i was younger, i'd dream up Dragon Ball ocs in the class and it would bring me so much joy the teacher would ask me why the hell am i staring out into the space and grinning like an idiot.

I think i cucked myself out of creativity by being very self-deprecative throughout my teenage years. I just assume that every nub of an idea is dumb and not really worth pursuing.

Idk how to fix that. I have the desire to create but not much else.

>>7171860
I have a normal job, fixing things. But that's not the topic, what I mean is that earlier generations had a motivation to draw shit, to create our own version of stuff out there. Whatever that could be. But today, right now, this generation is drowning in an ocean of content and their brains are starting to rot, they don't need anything, they don't feel the need to imagine something, to create something. There's no time, there's a never ending line of media content and products waiting for that little instant of a second for them to step up and fill that second in their brains. "They" are killing a whole generation's creative brain capacity. I'm not making a right or wrong judgement, but stating a fact, that IT IS happening.
And the solution? maybe content needs to be curated, by parents and people in charge. A kid doesn't have to be bombarded by content 24/7/365, so parents "can do other stuff", or the kid to be "entertained" ALL THE TIME, they don't even sleep anymore with the damn screen-phone attached to their face.

>>7171883
I'm asking this in good faith. Do you have any advice/solutions for a guy afflicted with the mindnumb lethargy?
Shit sucks to tell you the truth

>>7171883
Why do you think I'm asking about your job, "they" are all this things but you are not. so what is your art?

>>7171858
>>7171851
Why do people who don't want to draw anything want to learn to draw? I don't get the point.

>>7171881
Well you're here for a reason. You want to be a creative entity, imagine things, put it them on paper, to see them materialized, from your brain to a physical form. To be shared by a community, and to feel that joy of creation. That essential thing is in there, you just have to find the way to express that, to make it happen, and have fun. There must be a dream project for you, there is one always for everyone.

>>7171891
I'm one such anon. Honestly kinda hoping that if i increase my skills the ideas will come, since i'll be more experienced with the medium.
I want to "be creative" and "make things" but it's not like you can force yourself to get an idea you're passionate about

>>7171886
I think that I answered that a little bit here >>7171892
But I understand how hard it is today to find that "dream project", there's so much stuff available. Whatever you think about, it's already done or being done by someone. Maybe try to get involved in some collective project. Be part of something creative, you don't have to carry all the weight by yourself alone.

>>7171856
feel like im missing out on a lot of subtleties of how the head curves when i draw these with construction and not line. Loomis is so fucking subtle in his construction its hard to internalize initially. Maybe this is good enough as a start idk.

>>7171893
just start writing down your dreams and going out more. you cant be 'inspired' by being in your room all the time. Make a sketchbook of industrial landscapes, natural landscapes, people, random objects etc.

>>7171887
I post stuff here as many anons, For personal fun, and others. I have my issue resolved already. As long as I have two eyes, two hands and a tablet I'll die having a laugh drawing bullshit for fun. I create my own fun. A self-thinking creative entity. That's what it's being erased right now. Look at that AI monstrosity, what do you think that shit will do to people's creative brain? It's a brain killing machine.

>>7171874
Keep at it
>>7171898
Nice
>>7171904
I think memorizing the construction makes it easier to freestyle from line later on

Damn bro where the fuck do you get your apples?

>>7171913
This is what apples looked like in 19 century before Steve Jobs ruined them. Now everything needs to be smooth, and your brain becomes smooth. o tempora! o mores

Is it believable? Is it appealing? Is it coomable?

>>7171917
Yeah big juicy maggots were a rich protein source, we live in a world of faggots today "muh apple needz to be round and clean, no bugs pleazeee"

>>7171921
head/neck bothers me, and the tiny hands too.

First time actually sitting down and drawing the back anatomy. How'd I do?

>>7171893
I'm not sure to what extent creativity is a trainable skill and to what extent it's a personality trait, it's definetly a bit of both though. Creative kids aren't usually scribbling super interesting shit, but just "knight from a video game fighting" or whatever, and as they develop their skills they become capable of more and more nuanced creativity. Creativity grows as your visial library grows, and as your skill at lateral thinking grows.

I think if you wanna become a gmi you need an an autistic hyperfixation on something. Even if you get good, if you're uncreativie, you'll just be a fan artist pornographer, and that's assuming you can draw enough to get good without the power of a hyperfixation forcing you to.

So figure out what it is you like. There's stuff I have to draw or I die, and so much o f it I'll never finish it all, because I know what it is I like, what my autistic hyperfixation is.

Timelapse

>>7171612
>>7171624
Man, am I really that fucking bad I need to go back to the very very most basic things? Jesus.
>>7171729
Noted

>>7171982
You lack method. Look at your time lapse, you started with the head, okay fine, then you continue right into some fucking useless dress frills without having anything else down on the page to guide you??? followed by a cascade of corrections, stumbling through the drawing.

>>7171921
Potential coomability is off the charts anon. Keep at it. A great future awaits you.

>>7171729
You have a massive issue of proportions here. The head is way too big

>>7171982
>>7171996
I agree with anon that you seem to know what you're doing but get lost before you make a full commitment to your drawing. If your sketching a full body you should sketch the full body and proportions before going into the smaller details. You're not bad anon, just change your process and keep learning

>>7172004
>issue of proportions here
always

Drew the woman while she was cooking pancakes

>>7171941
if that your first time drawing that, then you're gonna be advanced in no time. Keep drawing anon.

>>7172011
your proportions are egregiously worse than everyone else's

>>7172086
It wasn't a confession but a fix.
Not "here" but "always".
I'm not him
Unless you are aware of it and really somehow mean me

>>7171891
I just want to learn so i can draw what i want instead of seeing the giant failure it comes out. People say draw whatever for fun but im not sure if you really learn by doing that

>>7171521
I was not expecting to see a reference to Dino Buzzati. That in and of itself is absolute kino

>>7171212
Can you give feedback on this? I think my drawings tend to be too meshed together

HEY theres a female ninja with huge boobs over there.png

>>7172180
draw an eye instead of a triangle with a pupil

>>7171928
>hands
Yeah they suck, I didn't study them at all yet and I will invest time into grinding hands soon.
>head/neck
Could you elaborate?
I guess one thing I notice now is that viewer shouldn't be able to see this much of the top plane of the head.
>>7171997
Thanks! Good redraw tho

>>7172180
As another anon suggested, try not to symbol draw with a triangle and a pupil. Look up references of seductive eyes and try to recreate that with your own interpretation. Find what makes eyes appealing to you and apply them here. For me, I'd find it more appealing with a more half open at rest seductive gaze than what you have now.

Also, I know you didn't ask for advice on it but the breasts are bothering me. They're far too spherical and round. Breasts are like water balloons full of sand, they should droop down especially from the weight of they're large. Boobs are almost never going to be perfect circles. The bottom of the breasts should be wider than the top as they're being pushed up by her arm so a good amount of the boob fat as it were is going to be resting against the arm with the top of the breast tapering off on the top. Think a tear drop shape.

>>7172174
Wow, what's with furries and raw talent always merging together?

>>7172193
just look at an eye and draw what it looks like, if you want to stylize it, look at a style you like and copy that

ideally do both. learn what an eye looks like and the actual structure of it looks like, then see how you favourite artist translates that into a drawing.

I feel your face is weak but I actually really like the rest of the drawing,

anyway heres my sketch of the day someone pls critique

>>7172225
Not getting to disheartened.
Fundies
Primary and secondary
Some of them are very boring.
 But as you learn, better stuff comes out
As better stuff comes out, you will start to like your stuff more and will want to make moar stuff thats betterer then before.

>>7172252
>>7172253
stop replying to howies, they aren't genuinely asking for help

>>7171212
'preciate you mindy, thank you for your efforts/instructions/advice

>>7172310
Sure give me something to draw

>>7172180
>>7172313
redraw this since youre calling me a howie, fag

>>7172316
Ah shit, you actually drew something instead of asking how without posting work, my bad anon. That's on me for not reading.

hope you take this token of goodwill, also for the eye it's hard to make it appealing since it's kinda covered in shadow, for that I would have to increase the size/resolution in order to add more detail.

heres a more recent drawing I did
>>7170503
oh sorry my bad
>>7170445
thank you yes

>>7172276
Why is this community literally the only one that goes like that?
>hey i wanna learn how to play the flute
>duuude just play it
>but how it works?
>don't ask dude just play the flute man

>>7172355
This is a comparison so retarded that only someone who neither draws nor plays music could have come up with it.

>>7172356
A lot of times i've seen people here asking for advice on a book or task and you niggers either don't answer or just say "howie" without even responding to the question. So yeah it is like that.

>>7172355
The real problem is there's a lot of people who ask stupid short questions so they deserve no answer, or short simple answers.

What you give is what you get. Imagine asking a programmer, "How do I program" what do you mean how? What do you want to program? What's the purpose of the software? who's the target audience? Do you have any references for code other people have used that would work well for what you're trying to accomplish?

When you get down to it, howies are either just trolling and don't actually want answers or they are genuinely too stupid to do any of the legwork to ACTUALLY ask proper specific questions.

So because of this people just jump the gun and lose any good faith for the 1% of people who are genuinely asking (No need to assume they are good faith unless they actually post work and make an effort)

>>7172355
howard nodraws' dont deserve help because half the time their posts are a rant about xyz mental illness and anhedonia and even permabegs mog them by nature of actually creating things

>>7171891
To cope with failure
To kill time
To fight anxiety
Out of nostalgia
Out of despair

>>7170697
Ragdollussy, unwise acting, me, got

>>7172071
nice man, i like it. i bet she loved it too. going off on a tangent, the idea of drawing one's lover, sounds so nice. that's how one sees her, and it's enough to melt her heart, and fall in love all over again


Can someone explain how people complain about calarts then go around enjoying something like pic related? Both styles are kinda just ugly copy n past slop to me

>>7170203
Anime has appeal and idealized beauty. Cal arts idolized ugliness and encourages students to purposefully make art that doesn't have appeal.

Anime presents idealized female beauty. Cal arts rejects traditional standards of female beauty and draws fatties and troons instead

>>7170203
Fat and ugly people should not exist. So I will not consume any entertainment where fat and ugly people are celebrated.

>>7170203
>chatGPT make me a controversial thread on 4chan that will give me many replies and attention

Since this thread so far is full of boring whiny faggots that haven't looked in a mirror themselves, no we need both ugly and non ugly. Plus the anime one is worse to me because it's boring and generic slop. People make fun of hazbin hotel but yall consume same types of designs so stfu

>>7170203
I'm not fond of either. There are good anime styles out there.

When the characters can switch clothing and hair and you somehow can't tell them apart then its a shit artstyle/character design.

>>7170203
Anime is an incestuous style.
CalArts is and incestuous style and low effort, and low production quality, and limited in function and scope, and the people who promulgate it demand you think they're the best ever.
Anime is cheaply made, but CalArts is cheap. I say this as someone who actually enjoys some shows labelled CalArts, and have seen more cartoons than anime. Some things one cannot deny.

>>7170263
>There are good anime styles out there
Like what?

Klee Sex<br>Also it's Chinese gachaslop. You're going to have to define who "people" are

>>7170203
The biggest issue for Genshin is it's the EXACT same body type for literally every character.
There's 3 types for females and 2 for males: loli, hebe, and adult for the girls; twink and skinny armed tall man for the boys.
The fucking Oni shares the same body type as Diluc when his splash art showed him as having these massive muscles, yet his ingame model makes him look like a skinny tall dude with flat abs.

>>7170203
Try to draw both this and the calarts style and see which one takes more effort to replicate

>>7170266
Are we going to just forget that Leon's palate can also just be changed with other male characters and there will be no noticeable change?

If you are doing realistic/semi-realistic anatomy, you only go so far in modifications.

But yes, I agree that if your character can be distinguished based on silhouette alone, then it is a great design

the problem with nu-designers is that they get off on people wanting to lewd their designs. characters exist solely for being lewded online and nothing else.

>>7170203
because muh troonime gud
everyfin els bed
shrimple as

99.9999% of the people who enjoy your pic OP have never heard of cal arts, never thought of cal arts and have certainly never complained about cal arts.<br>Spend less time on 4chan for pete's sake.

>>7170203
All these characters resemble beautiful and attractive young people.
What do the Steven Universe characters represent?

>>7170357
>lewding
>lewded
You sound like a complete imbecile

>>7170779
Repressed pedophiliac impulses, and the jewish desire to bastardize all beauty found in western creation. It also has messages about racemixing being le good, and that we should forgive tyrants and enslavers.

>>7170290
Koji Morimoto, Tatsuyuki Tanaka, Katsuya Terada

>>7170203
I think it's just because the 'anime style' just has a longer lasting, broader appeal. To say there isn't a similarity for a lot of manga/anime art I think is cope, but that said, I can't think of a single anime that has worse art than say... 'Steven Universe'.
The 'anime' style is just objectively better than the 'calarts' style, even if you do happened to subjectively like the calarts style.

>>7170203
one makes pedophiles horny and the other makes a different type of pedophiles horny

>>7170254
That’s literally what happened, I wanted to see if you stupid niggers we’re really dumb enough to fall for it and you actually did it. Gigakek

>>7170811
This is the most cal arts of cal arts, complete with a troon MC

>>7170778
>seething cause he knows I'm right
That is literally your thought process ( I know I'm implying anime fags can think)
kek

>>7170203
I still find it retarded how genshin has 8 characters with a loli body type, but no male equivalent

>>7170811
the mc and their boyfriend both have aids. I am not even joking

>>7170203
the people complaining about calarts are not the same people who play genshit. The retards that enjoy this nuweeb shit are the other side of the coin of calartsfags. Once again, both sides are retarded and I'm right.

>>7170336
They really did him dirty holy shit


What kind of content is good for a SFW Patreon?

Are there examples of a SFW account that you subscribe to?

Electrician tutorials, disassembling power tools to describe and review the components. Different types of motor, plastic, housing, etc.

Hope that helps, good luck.

>>7170442
resources to learn X that are so good it's worth paying, not much more than that, I don't tend to pay for shit anyways

>>7170442
Content that you're already a fan of, that's understandably a lot of work and needs a bit of financial help (such as comics or animation). Trying to build a fan base up before the patreon plea though, must be quite difficult.

>>7170442
courses and animation content get the normies hyped


Multiple accounts

What are the pros and cons of using multiple accounts to post different stuff
Currently i only have 1 account per webite ie: pixiv, twitter, ig, etc... Drawings that arent the main thing get really little engament, my mine stuff gets 100k+ views 5k+ views average but other stuff gets like 20k views and barely 1k views also want to post more porn, loli, kemonomimi and things like that.

Yes or nai? am i missing new costumers+ views? a ban? kek.

>>7170455
Having to build up from scratch again can be kind of annoying, but I guess if you really already are getting that kind of reach it probably won't take you too long.

I've had 3 different DA accounts and managing more than one is a major chore desu

DA is also shit though and banned my primary/largest account for bullshit reasons so I'm still salty and biased against it.

>>7170455
Having multiple accounts eliminates the risk of your main account getting suspended due the porn art.
Coomers always find a way. If your porn is good, you will gain an audience.
Have your NSFW account tagged in your bio and vice versa on your NSFW account, so people will immediately know you have more than one page.

>>7170455
Anon you are missing the most important aspect of social media.

For all the conten that you create the total views would be equivalente to only 1% in likes

>>7171023
Started in 2024vand already as 30k followers. Fuck this gay ass world. Just draw anime girlcwhite canvas motherfucking vtuber furry assholev dragon pussy.
Fuck!

>>7170455
Use your brain,The cons of this is the maintenance you do to, them, you are always going to use one more than the other, it also depends on the content you make, if you are hiding your coom art, screw you, because they will recognize you the same, the drawing is like a signature.


look for books on traditional painting techniques, alla prima and basic use of oil paints, , based on this image you should study John Singer Sargent and read Richard Schmid

>>7170518
don't listen to him, this is anything but alla prima. you cannot achieve that sharpness wet on wet even if you were working from a photo all day.
how it was probably done in the old days
>artist roughed in the pose, with the face (and maybe hands as well) blank
>the client would pose and they'd get as much done as possible in the couple hours or less
>finish in a studio over a month or so

>>7170514
someone said it takes 100 years to learn to draw and 1 hour to learn to paint or something

>>7171303
i saw on wikipedia WINTERHALTER would a la prima it and was known for being a virtuoso

>>7170514
There is no defacto regimen that will make you paint like that. Just fucking do it.

>>7171398
doesn't mean he did that for every painting. if you had any experience, you'd know that it's impossible, especially for the image you linked.

>>7170514
Here: >>7168085

>>7171303
The advice was reasonable

>>7171656
> you cannot achieve that sharpness wet on wet
The sharpness thing is doable


Proko

Has anyone here actually deeply, intently, and thoughtfully studied Proko's OG course, Figure Drawing Fundamentals?

Stan seems like a better artist than Vilppu, Eviston, Dodson, and all other meme ic teachers combined. The only other teacher who draws better than him is Steve Huston.

For those who did actually study Proko, what kind of gains did you make? Would you recommend it to beginners? intermediates? Would you even recommend it to pros?

it's good if you're not learning on your own, like any course.

>>7170393
*cant learn

you arent going to get anything from any demo if you don't put in the work and self study and practice. He's a mediocre fine artist and a mediocre teacher. He's giving you the information that he learned from the school he went to - so why not just learn the basics that they teach at that school instead of getting them from a youtuber? Bargue plates, fundamentals of painting, etc. If you want to paint in a realistic way just observe, if you want to be able to build a figure from any angle from your mind, you don't need this course.

>>7170397
>He's a mediocre fine artist
really? You really think so?

post your wonderful work then

> Stan seems like a better artist than Vilppu, Eviston, Dodson, and all other meme ic teachers combined.
lol, lmao you got filtered by dark core shadows

he didn't invented gesture, box mannequins and beans

>>7170595
I know good overcast lighting when I see it ;)

>>7170601
>picrel
looks alright, needs fewer pixels though

>>7170390
Courses are for people without talent or absolute beginners who don’t know what to do at all. Talented individuals learn by simply drawing from books they choose to pick up which happens because they know instinctively how and what to study

>>7170752
unironically true, and while I'm not a beginner at line drawing, I am an absolute begginner at shading. Is there another course that will work better for me than Proko?

>>7170901
To understand shading, you just need to grasp how shadows affect 3D shapes—such as the sphere, the cube, the cone, and the cylinder. You don’t need to spend $600 on a course to comprehend how shadows impact shapes. Instead, download Blender, click ‘Shift + A,’ and add the shape you want to study. Then, introduce a light source to the scene and apply a material to the shape. That’s it! This process will help you understand shading. The rest involves pure practice and applying these concepts to your workflows using techniques like airbrushing and oil painting.

>>7171414
>you just need to grasp how shadows affect 3D shapes
>shadows affect 3D shapes
this is funny but you're not going to be able to figure out why which makes it even more funny

>>7170901
Want to shade a character? It’s the same process: use a human base mesh, add a light source, and practice moving the light source in different directions. There are plenty of human base meshes available on Blender.org

>>7170901
cast drawing + primitive form practice. Also copy master works. Here's picrel.

Do it in trad or it doesn't count. Also do 9 or ten value scales.

>>7171415
ok bro good luck with your $1000 art curriculum

>>7171418
what kind of finished works do you hope to make with this style?

>>7171422
you will forever be crippled by your digital tools.

>>7171424
its called fundamentals for a reason retard. it doesnt matter where you learn them.

like asking why to learn perspective if you don't want to draw backgrounds.

>>7171422
I sincerely doubt Stan was ever able to do the drawing on the right.

>>7171425
and you will be forever ever paying $1000 courses without learning a shit, addicted to purchase expensive courses from mediocre artists

>>7171431
i told him to draw master copies and do casts, not buy courses. you sure are fucking stupid.

>>7171433
Ah, my bad, my fren. May God bless you, and have a beautiful night and godly fortune

>>7171418
Nah man I’m fine drawing Chinese girls what the fuck is this westoid shit lmaooo


インスタグラムの映像について

アカウントグリドで映像はどうやって開けられるんだろう??


Why is Drawing and Illustration a very heteronormative pursuit /ic/?

>>7170722
>why are they cis heteronormative
you're the one claiming this. what evidence led you to that conclusion?

Because at its base, art is inspired by the natural world. Homos go against Nature.

>>7170722
>Why is Drawing and Illustration a very heteronormative pursuit
He asks, to a board full of d/ic/kgirls.

>>7170722
People don't "come in all shapes and sizes", there's beauty and there's a horde of devilborn deformities caused by unhealthy habits.

It reads as something drawn by a tranny.

>>7170726
THAT'S IT I'M DUMPING MY GAY LION SEX FOLDER

>>7170827
>iphone fag
>has fagshit on his phone
Pottery

>>7170831
>>7170848
Remember you asked for this. Giraffe orgies all around.

>>7170850
But I was promised lions. You lied. You’re a god damn liar. I hope lions rape you to death.

>>7170722
to answer the question in the picture posted: No, it "reads" As some one who has no idea how to draw very well so it looks like neither and the artist needs to refine there skills before they ask the question.

To answer the bait thread question: You are a retard if you think that is the case, please kill yourself.
>>7170850
>Queer planet
>just shows male giraffe's competing for mates
>since both genders look nearly the same to normies you can get away with saying 'competing for another males attention'
I want more lions as well you fucking faggot

>>7170722
drawing well is an inherently fascistic pursuit

>>7170722
because heterosexuality is normal and healthy

>>7170806
based

>>7170827
>>7170850
enjoy having to wear diapers in your early 40s for your damaged anus you filthy sodomite

>>7170722
Actually, a scientific project examining the way that homosexuals depict women in art would be fascinating.

>>7170722
looking it up online

"A study found that 96.6% of adults identified as straight, 1.6% identified as gay or lesbian, and 0.7% identified as bisexual."

maybe that's why?


It's over, I give up.

I give up with art, there's no career to be made here, I'm learning carpentry, it's over. It's been fun 5 years learning with y'all niggas.

>>7170564
>5 years learning
So how about you post your latest work.

>>7170566
I've posted my work enough. I did drawpile often. Anyways, it doesn't matter anyway. If I was in this level 10 years ago I'd prolly get hired.

>>7170564
Now is when the real journey begins. This is the best thing that could have happened to you. Secure an steady income. And if you really love art, you will use all of your spare time to do just that. And you are gonna love it, because you're free. You won't have to force yourself into normie trends and stupid shit to fool yourself on the whole "making it" coping mentality. You will draw whatever the fuck you want to draw. You won't be a tool for the "art world" (videos, courses, tools, books, styles, trends, systems, etc, etc, etc,), no, art will be a tool for you, for your pleasure. You will not need to be crawling around niche art-sites larping as a capeshit or furry faggot to get a stinky "commission". You will do whatever the fuck you want. You're about to get the ultimate artistic power. Freedom. You will come back here. This is your place.
/ic/bros forever O7

>>7170572
Well can you at least show us something before you go?

>>7170583
>You will draw whatever the fuck you want to draw. You won't be a tool for the "art world"
You get it /ic/ bro, you really do. I may come back, this place is hard to leave after all. But for now I have to make money and cover my rent, I'm 1 month behind. Thanks bro.

>>7170564
Skill issue. I hope you realize that skill issues are fixable.
On the bright side, the requirement of skill gives its value.

>>7170564
Good. That means AI is doing its job i.e., getting rid of all the money chasers and famefags.

>>7170748
>money chasers
That's easy to say when you don't have a rent to pay or major obligations in life. Dumbass piece of shit.

>>7170765
What makes you think people care about your "obligations". It's your life choices that made you what you are today. Getting a high paying job will solve almost all of your life problems anon.

I failed at everything I've ever tried and will probably have to go to jail soon.<br>I have no friend. My relatives barely speak to me.

>>7170849
>will probably have to go to jail soon
on what charge?


How does one get commissions? On insta there are accounts with a third of my follower count receiving regular comms. On twitter I find it very hard to receive exposure, and using the site makes me very depressed because of this. But again I see accounts with fewer followers than me receiving comms. Does a better commission sheet help? Do you just beg harder? I need external validation

Pretend you already have commissions by posting art and saying someone commissioned it. Nothing draws a crowd like a crowd.

Majority of my clients come from DA. Pick a fetish/niche you like to draw and make sure people into that fetish can find you. Pic related is my 72th commission batch WIP

>>7170661
Genius. Didn't want to lie but I'm desparate, I'll try this if I still don't get commissions

>>7170675
Are you Jujudrop from deviant art?

Anyways, is drawing porn or fetish stuff objectively the fastest way? I'm not really into drawing that but I'm tempted because I hate the fact that my hobby isn't bringing in pocket money

>>7170682
Yes, I am.

I can only talk of my own experience but when people commission art they want something personal that tickles their funny bone. Niche fetish is usually something people want to pay for as they get to see their personal kink come real. So yeah, sex and fetish sell. And it should def be some fetish you yourself are into and understand, because it shows in your art if you have passion for it and people are more likely to comm you to draw it for them

>>7170684
Thanks, your work is great btw. It's not my fetish but I see why it's appealing.

>>7170675
this is permabeg, you are going to be replaced by aislop

>>7171515
Thanks! My next comms in queue are Tifa vs client's OC and Aerith vs client's OC and after that, it will be Tifa, Aerith, Yuffie and Jessie posing in boxing gear. I'm happy I get paid to draw my fav vidya ladies femfighting <3

>>7171515
>Since 2022
>"A-any week guys! Soon all of ypu artists will be replaced by AI!"
>"Any week now!"
Keep coping mikufag

>>7171633
kek you're so bad no one can even tell who these characters you draw are. browns commissioning browns

>>7171915
Yet they keep commissioning me :D

>>7171915
Why are you coping so hard, anon? I get no one wants your slop, that’s why you’re being so spiteful like this, but come on now.

>>7170675
I've always liked you and your confidence. Godspeed wrestling anon.
How much are you making from comma nowadays anyway?

>>7171515
You retard, human appetite for porn in insatiable, the cake meme is true

>>7172121
Several hundreds of bucks a month

>>7170675
This looks like actual dogshit, but I can’t help but admire your success in the face of lack of talent

>>7170659
Obviously you have to make it very clear that you're open for commissions at every opportunity. People don't just commission people out of the blue. Outside of autists who have the fetish you draw, those guys will attempt to commission you right in the comments even if the site has DMs. Speaking of which, you might also want to try drawing different stuff to show people what you're comfortable with, coming back to autists, they will never think you can draw something that you don't already draw unless directly told so.

And then there's asking directly. Look around for the sort of commissions people put out and the name of the one commissioning, look if it's something you're willing to draw and the price range of the guy, ask the commissioner if he wants to commission you for a price adjusted depending on your art quality compared to the other guy.

Stop thinking like an artist and think like a salesman.

>>7170659
Post your work, maybe I will commission you.


MAGA Observaton

>>7170943
based and redpilled. Zion Don vax daddy approves.

>>7170943
>Lower the age of consent
>Mentions diapers twice
How's Sofia doing these days?

>>7170980
kek fucking moron if you don't want your own art blown up in your face, don't post it. it will get around like a cancer, just a rule of the internet.
diaper fetish haha

Based in a MDE sort of way. Like 10% trying too hard with things like misspelling vegetables

>>7170943
If this was made to shit on the right then go for it as it sums of there retorted quite nicely. Be sure to make your intentions clear though, people might think you are supporting trump this year.

Preddy gud, I just don't get the diapers thing.

>>7171013
It's a fine balance that I have not found yet.

>>7171164
It's new; Trump is known to wear diapers, so his supporters are trying to embrace it with t-shirts and other paraganglia.

>>7170943
Add something about being proud to be circumcised


Sup 4chan

I'm here to ask: what is the best country with the best schools to enter the manga comicsist profession?
The kind of school that will teach me how to make deep soulful stories that will tug at people's feelings like guitar strings and make them think and feel. Like the manga "Goodnight PunPun."
And also where it pays better.

there's no school that will teach you that

Just move straight to Japan if you insist in manga profession

>>7171017
There a multiple schools around the world that teach comic art and creation, America included, though I doubt any can really teach you how to make "deep soulful stories that will tug at people's feelings like guitar strings and make them think and feel", that's on you, and your own creative abilities.
As for which country pays the best in the comic field? It's a bit difficult to say - Japan has made some very financially successful comic creators, but unless you're there as one of the greats, you'll probably be barely scraping by AND have terrible working conditions to boot.
America's industry is collapsing, though graphic novels, indie, and particularly children's comics are doing quite well (though that doesn't seem to be what you want to do).
Europe is a little vague, there seems to be a larger culture of reading comics there, but there doesn't seem to be much success from their comics internationally; nor is there much evidence that they're doing well domestically either, or I'm sure we'd being seeing more of it on the internet. Surely people would be sharing and pirating European comics as much as Manga if they were so loved, right?

Honestly though, expecting to somehow get into comics professionally is like expecting your little garage band to make it big - you're dreaming.
Make your dream comic as a hobby, and see if any publishers are interested; if not, go indie.
If you want to study comics in school, that fine, but be sure that the course's skills can be applicable in other industries such as animation, or video games, etc. (or study something else afterwards).

>>7171036
Did you just type what you read on quora lol?

>>7171017
There's no school that's going to teach you that. If there was, it would be world famous and well well beyond your means.
But there's no evidence that even the schools in japan will actually make you more likely to succeed as a professional manga artist or storyteller.

>>7171035
You don't have to, but it would probably help. Although having to juggle whatever you do to keep your visa with making manga will likely not end well as those who have tried can attest. IMO it's better to get into japan THROUGH manga rather than FOR manga. Become a publishable author first, THEN go. Ideally, get published first. Get in on an artist visa, or something that will allow you to work while you're there. Publishers aren't going to work with somebody unless they can do it legally and above board, so you need to solve that problem first, and it's not an easy problem to solve. Although that might only be a temporary problem, maybe in the future more publishers will be willing to work with authors overseas.

>>7171193
Interesting critique, I just wish I knew what it meant.

>>7171955
Okay, so I'm standing on my quora, so what does it mean?

>>7171034
It sounds pretentious, but it's true. Write what you know. Not necessarily writing the mundane or something autobiographical, but an inner, underlying truth. If you want to create works like Punpun, Aku no Hana or Welcome to the NHK, you need to understand that these are, at their core, uncomfortably personal. They are a direct reflection of the author's feelings and experiences, their values and outlook on life. I see a lot of young authors wanting to create something like this or something like that. And they are diligent students, learning all about dramaturgy and story structure, researching the works of masters and they take notes and start to write and - it's okay. It's an okay work, but not the great emotional impact they had been hoping for. But they had acquired great taste and knowledge, so why did their work fall flat? Because, you guessed it, it lacked the author's true authentic voice. Their work becomes referential and ultimately shallow. If you want to tell a good story, study dramaturgy. If you want to tell a great story, have something important to say. The same principle rings true for visual art and illustrations.

>>7171017
all these people giving you long paragraph answers are pre/beg/ tier btw

>>7172551
Nice crabbing. Subtle, yet efficient. I rate this bait a solid seven outta ten!

>>7172560
Im not trying to crab anyone out of drawing, I'm just saying begs spend all day giving people art advice when they are really really bad at drawing.

>>7172561
It's late evening. People can draw all day and help some anons out before they go to bed. You're right that a lot of advice on this board is outright bad, but opinions in this thread have been reasonable so far. You, on the other hand, contributed nothing

Either Chile has the best art education or artists from Chile just have higher genetics

Art school can teach you drawing skill but drawing skill doesn't help with knowing what to draw

Studying creative writing allows you to understand how to structure a story and esit your text, it does not help coming up with new unique ideas

If you went to the greatest music academy in the world to learn guitar you could easily master how to play but that wouldn't help you come up with new music that people would care about.
Jimi hendrix wasn't the most skilled guitarist back in -68, not even close but he was innovative and creative

School teaches skills, artists can teach creativity.
Art teachers are almost always skilled artists who failed to make it and took on teaching as a compromise.
If they had exceptional creativity they wouldn't be teachers.
And since innovative creative artosts are so rare, what makes you a worthy student above all others when millions around the world are desperately trying to find out how to become successful in the arts?

If you have the passion and creativity it takes then you will find it out yourself one way or another, if you don't then it doesn't really matter which school you go to or how much you grind.

Of course you could become an apprentice for an innovative creative artist but again, what makes you stand out from the rest who all want to be in that same position?

Pic related, peak skill, no creativity


Any terrible experiences/stories of past or current clients?

>>7171109
If you don't like the client's idea, why even accept the commission?

>>7171109
Do what you're paid for or I'll just train a lora on your entire art gallery and gen it myself. Me paying you is a favor, not a requirement.

>>7171109
If its something your personally dont like you can say you can set it up to be edited easily by another artist and anything changed after the intial transaction is none of your concern as long as youre not credited.
If its illegal, say you wont do it because its illegal or can cause reason of suspicion.
sorry, i cant spell for shit today.

>>7171113
I dont mind doing it, but I cant post it on my page and increase my numbers with pictures of zelda turning into a horse

>>7171147
This. If you retards dont do this then ngmi

>>7171113
Could be talking about a client at his job. Can't just refuse a client that your boss is giving you.

Also for artists who this doesn't apply to it's the same reason you work a job you don't like. Money is necessary to survival. Sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do.

>>7171109
>Take commission Idea you don't like
>Not do said idea of the client, who paid money for it, cause its "bad"
>Thinking you are in the right

>>7171109
artist should just draw private pieces if he's incapable of following through with a commission.

Hope that he, at least, didn't charge.

>>7171217
you could if you weren't a coward

>>7171109
>that pic
Never happened cause I'm always in constant contact with my clients updating them with WIP pics just so something like this -doesn't- happen.

The only terrible experiences I've had with past clients is when they ask for something super fetishy or downright fucked up, which I decline and either we do something more tamer or it's cancelled outright. There was this one guy who wanted a discount because he's the same ethnic group as I am (Sikh), I just ghosted him.

>>7171113
>>7171109
wait he said "do you ever wish you could just" which means he didn't actually DO it
anyone with client facing jobs occasionally wants to reach through the screen and strangle the client, that's just the nature of the beast. This is a nothingburger

>>7171109
Yet another example of some moron who can't communicate. He couldn't have just made a suggestion to the client first?
Or as >>7171147 had said, show them a sketch first? This person is an example of a shit artist to hire for a commission.

>>7171109
I mean if it's a commission, and you accepted their commission, you deliver their commission if it's still within your scope no matter how retarded it sounds like.

>>7171302
>>7171113
>>7171688
this is how some of the best art in the history of art was made.
shut up. retards. you don't know anything about real art. vision comes first.

The artist (illustrator) is just a tool to realize the vision of the client (artist)

>>7171109
did you retards not read the picture, twatteruser is saying he WISHES he could do it, not that he has ever done that.

i WISH i could break my boss's nose, but i don't need a snobby little lecture from the unemployed bottom feeders here about how that would be a bad idea. because i haven't done it.

>>7171284
You don't HAVE to draw anything
Just get a real job

>>7171753
Breaking your boss's nose IS a good idea
Wait for societal laws to collapse before you do though

>>7171147
>I gave you a pass on your sketch
>I gave you a pass on your lineart too
>But this is not what I imagined, also I came up with additional stuff while you were working.
>Of course I mention this only after you delivered the piece, and already working on your next comm.

>>7171282
Here you go: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hy8kmNE<wbr>o1i8&pp=ygUNaSdtIGEgc2NhdG1hbg%3D%3<wbr>D

>>7171109
These fags feel like control opposition that appeared out if nowhere. They pretend to oppose AI slops while act like faggot all the time. Normal people and artist never got promoted by Twitter like then.
Feel like those "Faggots for Palestine' to make anti Israel look like faggots.

>>7171302
The person said they wish they could do it
Not that they regularly do it

>>7171217

lol

The paraphilia of the internet will never cease to both amaze and gross me out

ive had one picky autist, but i dont care very much besides firing them

The only commissioner moment I hate is when you finish a drawing and suddenly they ask for complex alts. "OH can you make <alt that will take 3 hours>??" and then they start arguing with me about how its technically part of the second alt even though it is literally additional work that will take up time I've allocated to other clients already.

>be shota artist
>client wants me to draw my self-insert OC banging his anime girl OC
>charge up the ass
>happily pays up front
>start his comm, main idea is pretty basic
>get really into it, have a ton of interesting and fun interactions between both OCs
>original comm is just two pictures but client says he doesn't mind if I do my own thing with his OC as long as the main pictures get done
>end up making five pictures because why not, it was a lot of money
>deliver each picture to the client, he's very satisfied
>then he drops this fucking sentence:
>"I'll definitely let you have some more fun with my gal in the future, you're such an eager boyslut"
That's the only time I have felt like a client touched me inappropriately

1783 - angry chair doraemon frowning hidden_star_in_four_seasons matara_okina mini_gyate sitting.png

>>7172878
get what you fucking deserved, shitstain

>>7171113
Sometimes for money, other times it’s for publicity. The best client is one that offers both. Like doing book covers. Getting paid to do something, and having your art shown off to the world is a win-win.

>>7171147
I’ve worked with some clients that are really stupid and think the sketch is the literal final product. Or they can’t even imagine what the final product will look like based on just the sketch

>>7171113
So one time when I managed to get into Artist Alley at New York Comic Con, I had a customer who worked at BYU who was going around commissioning artists “what does Mormonism mean to you?”. He paid me my most expensive commission price I was offering at the time. I basically just did a collage of the few things I knew about Mormons— the angel Moroni, a missionary, portraits of Brigham Young and Joseph Smith, a cup of coffee with the circle-backslash symbol on it, etc. I never got to take a photo of it, but I probably wouldn’t upload it anyway because it’s not something I would usually draw. It paid well though.

I also know “soaking” is a thing among Mormons, but I didn’t think it would be appropriate since the guy was planning to hang the artwork at the university’s library lol

Some of the other drawings other artists did though were pretty cool. One comic artist did a scifi looking piece of a man and woman ascending into space to their own planet. Another did a cartoon of a missionary running away from a house because a lizard person opened the door.

>>7171138
> t. main character syndrome haver

>>7173579
This is also the power fantasy that twitch chat and gaymers have when they have absolutely no power whatsoever.

>>7171138
like you've ever paid a random freelancer anything
kys

>>7172878
>artist got molested by client
many such cases

>>7172878
perfect image and perfect story

>>7171109
My first ever client fucking ghosted me for 2 weeks.
Granted, he payed up front for some reason, but I couldnt just get away with the money without knowing if he was satisfied or not, BECAUSE HE DIDNT SAW THE FINISHED ORDER.

>>7171824
nigga he's scamming you how gullible are you?

>>7172878
Post images NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW


How do you explain the stylization of this nigga?

Don't we already have two threads nearly identical to this one up?
>>7169253
>>7170891

he wrote a book about it "The Silver Way"


For oil painting, how the FUCK do I replicate daylight lighting?
>paint at night
>"it's beautiful"
>next day see it with natural light:
>smudged trash

I can't stop painting at 6pm, I wake up at 2pm.


You don’t get followers or likes not because of the algorithm or bots, it’s because your lack of skill and shit taste.

>post on instagram
>4 likes
>post on reddit during an active time of day
>1k+ upvotes
If people see my work, they like it. People don't see my work on instagram.

>>7171300
>another social points thread
you guys are pathetic.

>>7171305
Oh because insta gutted photos
Engagement unless you buy ads for it and need to post reel. Just bitch about having no followers or beg for some and you’ll gain 10k in 2 weeks as long you made the post in reels.

>>7171300
I don't have social media you dumb faggot

>>7171310
>Oh because insta gutted photos
so you admit the algorithm plays a significant role in your follower count lol

My work does suck ass but judging by the view counts I'd say the algorithm is also fucking with me a bit.

Have you tried making something besides cakes?

>>7171300
>lack of skill
If this was true there'd be a more linear distribution of viewercount as one went from pre-/beg/ to something around /int/. But that's not the case. We have all seen completely shite art that also has no cute/funny redeeming value and yet it gets more views than (you).

>>7171723
retard didn't read the lack of taste part.


How can you "learn" to be more creative? How do you get inspo for more unique fashion design?

>>7171317
read books and draw things from it

Look at the images you like.
Figure out why you are so enamored with them,

Mine is always on the hair. I came to the realization that the way the hair gets drawn always speaks volumes to me. It's as if it's an entirely new visual language to me.

>>7171317
Literally just rip off fashion mags like op pic does lmao
Creativity doesn't exist, it's all just copy whatever sells before

>>7171317
Look at unique fashion design
Look at things that aren't fashion design

>>7171329
That's the exact opposite of what should be done

>>7171317
Read this books
https://archive.org/details/epdf.pu<wbr>b_eyewitness-africa-eyewitness-book<wbr>s

>>7171317
do things that spark your imagination
read books or listen to audio books
do coffee stain drawings (any random silhouette drawing will do)
find something you hate and think you can do better
find prompt generators

Creativity seems to be something akin to "using broad associational thought processes to make novel things." Of course nothing is fully new and it may even be that everything is copied from somewhere else, but creative people are great at placing old, un-new stimuli in a novel context.
An example is Kill la Kill (I'm picking this example because everyone here knows what it is, not because it's the best demonstration of creativity). Still, it's a pretty interesting reimagining of magical girl tropes. Using a scissor blade as the protagonist's sword is pretty original and funny, I think.
The key thing is to not just look at one type of thing or a few things. If Trigger had looked at just magical girl anime and manga, do you think they'd come up with anything new? To make KLK, you'd need to see how an ordinary household tool can be the ultimate weapon - that's the associational part. Kids are good at this, but most adults have been socialized to put things in strong categories.
Can this be trained to any real effect? I'm not so sure. But that's what you need to do. Don't be someone who dismisses everything ordinary (or unusual, or challenging). Try to think about everything as if you're seeing it for the first time.

>>7171317
Have a loving family
have peers that support you in school
have parents that are successful themselves so you have something to look up to
be successful and rich from an early age so you dont know what failure feels like

>>7171374
/thread

sad part no one will take this post seriously when 99% of the
artists they like, have this (and much more).

>>7171376
Because it's meaningless 4chan misery porn, it's typical vent-thread drivel. Plenty of poor people from broken homes have been creative. Naturally it's probably true better to be creative and also rich, and be tall and also rich, have a big dick and also be rich, and so on, how profound.

>>7171317
>How can you "learn" to be more creative?
Ok this is an unconventional answer, but trust me on this.
Fucking "The Creative Act: A Way of Being" by Rick Rubin. Look at this shit (picrel). The whole book is full of this weird-ass spiritual new age schizo crap, and its beautiful. I tried, for shits and giggles primarily, delude/gaslight myself into believing what's being written in the book - we're all creators since creating is bringing new things into the world, therefore even a simple conversation is a piece of art, the universe is a continuous creative and artistic act, ideas that you have but don't bring to life will be brought to life by another artist, staying with tune in nature, looking inwards for ideas, filling your vessel with the information that the universe is constantly generating, all art is inherently collaborative since it has been born under the influence of others' ideas, you are your worst critic, etc etc.
Guess fucking what, now I actually look forward to creating stuff, whatever it may be: making paper planes, drawing ugly mannish anime girls, making 8 bar chopped amen break that I will never finish, doing studies and deleting them afterwards.
I literally gaslighted myself into enjoying creating something, even if it's shit. Thank you Rick Rubin, I hope you wrote this shit sober because you believe in it, because I do too now.

i have never seen anyone learn their way to creativity, ive seen people end up using formulas but the end result is always bad

>>7171317
>posts jojo faggotry
>a literal manga that is traced fashion covers

JUST TRACE LIKE YOUR FAVORITE MANGA ASIAN JEANS WEARING RETARD ITS NOT ART FUCK OFF TO YOUR CONTAINMENT BOARDS OF JP AND A AND ALL THOSE CARTOON PORN BOARDS FUCK OFF

>>7171317
Approach your work like an adult with a plan, not a child seeking approval

>>7171317
Take your first thought and scrap it then ask yourself what is something most people wouldn't expect

>>7171430
Thanks for the vague platitude retard I'll be sure to stop caring


>render a picture
>it starts to look too realistic and I feel like it's alive
>set it on fire out of fear
The only art that has emotionally affected me is my own art and it's not even good. I feel no emotion when I look at other people's art.

The portraits stare at me all over my room.

How many thousands of still life apples do I need to grind before my renders look realistic enough

>it starts to look too realistic and I feel like it's alive
This is why it is haram in Islam to draw living things. Hope you learned your lesson

>>7171296
they're on to something if that's true


>>7171443
>others
others only means you, I understand anon.

>>7171443
If other people can't understand your drawings then you are not good at drawing

>>7171443
>What's the point of being good at drawing if others can't understand what you just drew?
Someone told me this about Kim Jung Gi, that the amount of clutter & detail made it hard to "read." But to me it's part of the appeal, like "Where's Waldo" it takes time to decipher.
There's the term "horror vacui" (fear of the empy) used to describe art filled with detail/clutter, and while it often goes against clarity this art can be fun to look at.

>>7171443
Unless You are a retard who can't look at something for more than 4 seconds nobody Will have an issue understanding that drawing


Umha and Lucy. Do you like their design, would they be easy to animate? Some have said Lucy's eyes are offputting; like staring into a void.

They are very cute characters. Does the girl have a hat or is it her hair? If it's her hair then it's very original.

Don't worry about the eyes, I personally find them charming.

They would be easy to animate, yes. The designs themselves would be alright for a children's show, but are not particularly good or interesting. The issue with the eyes can be fixed by removing the shine marks.


Does anyone have any tutorial, resources, or just concept/environment art references?

That's so "game whose concept art is more interesting than the final product".

>>7171492
im looking at the sky and can clearly see that its just a picture of a cloud that he drew a few texture brush strokes over.

>>7171492
>first make the whole thing in blender
>second block in flat colors
>third generative fill and photobash the rest
Absolutely grim state of concept "art". To answer your question, just read Scott Robertson's books.

It is pretty fucking funny that the guy has to place stand-ins for fucking banners, in a non-compromising angle
I could buy it if you have a low shot and the banner is like at a side or something and it's a tricky angle
But he literally just added three floating rectangles that don't even interact even on a shadow level with anything

>>7173467
So, what's your process for that kind of things? For a video game, do you perceive the huge asset of working with 3D models?

>>7173651
Yet the banners play an important role visually in the final comp.

You guys always are so bold, but you have no clue what the specs were: maybe the flags are important for the story telling and the artist would have been asked to include them right from the start.