I don't understand how can someone have such clean lines using graphite. Everytime I draw my lines end up chunky as hell, is it the pencil? Graphite size? I don't get it

>>7160267
Mileage. It's simple line confidence. Stop opening threads to make dumb statements or ask questions that have obvious answers jfc.

>>7160267
>amazing artist
>makes awful manga
Such a terrible curse.

>>7160267
this could very well be digital imitating graphite. look at the guitar string. also it used to be common to clean up your scans. now zoomers just take a pic with their phones and post as it.

>>7160267
30+ years of holding chopsticks

>>7160267
is everybody on this board retarded or something

>>7160267
It's because he's extremely confident with his lines, if you've seen him draw you'd know he draws everything right the first time
That's an ability that you'll get once you have years and years of drawing under your belt

>>7160284
>>7160271
>>7160279
Not op but isn't this drawing abit too clean? I've watched Hiroaki Samura draw as he uses pencil alot, he uses a lightbox to trace the sketch to have clean lines but it still doesn't look as clean.

as one of the anons mentioned maybe he just cleaned up the scan or maybe he uses lightbox

>>7160284
>It's because he's extremely confident with his lines, if you've seen him draw you'd know he draws everything right the first time
i've seen him drawing and he definitely doesn't lol

>>7160267
How come Gege, Fujimoto and Gotouge can't draw as well as Horikoshi despite all being twice more popular than him, published on the same magazine and working on the same deadline?

>>7160267
Artists who settle with this cross-hatching pencil drawing style mostly happen to be 3rd world SEA-niggers. Paint like what real artists do. Graphite is boring as fuck, you happy with that? it's gray as hell.

>>7160328
i'm pretty sure out of these he is the one who enjoys drawing the most, this is fanart made by him when he was 15.
Plus I think he has the most assistants

>>7160328
Because how well you draw doesn't equate to an appealing story and no hate to horikoshi but mha story is shit, I don't think he's less popular than those two though at least in terms of how known their most popular works are people forgot mha was a small global phenomenon when the anime released in 2016 gege probably is more popular than him now though. fujimoto and gege stories also have a bit more substance which leads to more people talking about them more frequently than horikoshi and mha

>>7160267
draw lightly with a sharp pencil
a kneaded eraser also helps

>>7160311
nice try retard i specifically remember being in the threads when this was posted and it was during japanese cold season and hori was basically dying of pneumonia

>>7160279
>>7160308
I'm 95% sure this isn't graphite, or at least graphite that hasn't been digitally altered. Look at the guitar chord.

But besides, you need a smooth paper, good, well sharpened graphite, and some dexterity.

>>7160443
Yeah, I think it is digital, simzarts posted this early, it is clearly digital, hori must use a similar brush

in addition to what's been said, every time something looks clean or meticulous it's far larger than reproduction you looking at on the screen, be it trad or digital

>>7160267
>I don't understand
What you don't understand could fill a library

>>7160732
Wow. Gotta sit for a moment and ponder upon that. Thanks anon. That's deep.

>>7160267
Use thinner lead, either that or skill issue

>>7160269
this

>>7160328
>despite all [list of things with no relation to drawing skill whatsoever]
I dunno anon why can't I draw like Horikoshi despite also breathing air, sitting in a chair and not cutting my hair? It's fucking mystery.

>>7160732
what you don't eat could fill a supermarket

>>7160279
Even on digital i cant gat lines that clean. My lines are blurry and jagged at the same time

>>7160272
>artistic skill =/= writing skill
many such cases

Lucius al Gaib

>>7160267
Practice drawing with your arm for months. Draw circles clockwise with your whole arm for 45 minutes every day for 2 months. Then Draw circles anticlockwise everyday for another month.
Draw from observation.
NEVER go back on a line. Do NOT pet your lines. Ever. If its bad, erase it and do it again until its right.
Know where the line is going, from start to finish.
Its that easy anon.
Picrel is my progress so far. Its that easy anon

Anonymous

>>7161566
it looks fucking nothing like OP.

Lucius al Gaib

>>7161585
Ofcourse it looks nothing like OP its a head floating in space. OP is asking for tips I gave him tips. This isn't about me

>>7161685
I'm actually curious to see how you would do it. Post your trad lines

Anonymous

>>7161696
yeah, I'm not getting into a pissing match with a butthurt /beg/ namefag
step away from the screen and read the thread in a couple of days, you're ridiculously out of your depth

Lucius al Gaib

>>7161707
>no tips
>no work
>b-b-BEGLET MUH PISSING MATCH
Calm down anon all you gotta do is draw it one stroke at a time, quickly and precisely. Keep it up for a few months. I believe in you

Anonymous

>>7160279
>>7160443
You know you can get perfectly straight lines by using a flat edge to guide your pencil, right? The guitar strings looking so perfect doesn't suggest that this is a digital drawing.

>>7160267
errr idk why people are trying to say this isn't pencil or w/e. just watch this vid, hori is godly at drawing. Its def a little digitally altered like on of the guitar strings and the jack cable, but its like 99% pencil art, he's just very very good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=d<wbr>esktop&v=Y_FYbfPxRe4

>>7161750
I meant, the power chord, especially the lowest portion of it: it's a pure flat gray as you'd get with a hard round. you can't really get that with graphite

>>7161758
Thanks; it's perhaps the paper + lead holder combination which trumps me, as I'm not used that much to the latter. I guess on a smooth surface like bristol, which he probably uses because he inks on top, such smooth tones can happen

>>7161776
np! he actually might use bristol for illustrations (seeing as how he is kinda into western comics and thats what they use) but actually most mangaka don't use bristol. They mostly use the brands DELETER, or I-C because they are very good for providing smooth inking lines with a nib.

>>7161800
please shut up. comic boards are easier to ink on and people use nibs all the time. hunt crow quill was used all the time in the past. some used winsor newton water color brush. but the garbage gpen nibs used in manga doesnt need magic nippon paper to work and using the lower gsm deleter shit is actively worse to ink on. they are just smaller paper format and cheaper because they dont care about quality. they want quantity. smaller, less detail, production pipeline. saves on toner packs and ink with all the black fill they use. now its mostly digital, but the smaller size format and production pipeline remains. just tracing and 3d models with photobashed backgrounds.

but bristol is just thicker, smoother and easier to work on.

>>7161817
way to overreact asshole. I never said you couldn't get smooth lines on bristol, and as someone who literally has both types of paper at the ready, I find the japanese paper easier to work on, as I am sure a lot of comic artists do. Deleter quality DOES suck ass, but I-C is actually really nice. I've also had bristol paper that was complete shit. So there is no end all be all paper

>I don’t understand how an east Asian artist can be so flawless in every way

Japan isn’t the exception, they’re the rule

>>7161932
>>7161936
nvm, I zoomed in and can see the grains of paper, it's trad and scanned.

why are drawings in grey so much better than drawings in black? My lineart just looks ilke a map, it doesn't have form, even if I use straight lines or trace a model perfectly.

>>7160267
>lines end up chunky as hell
Use smoother paper and get a pencil with hardness that is comfortable to you (for me it's 3B) and sharpen it properly. Or just use a mechanical pencil. And make bigger drawings. The only problem I have with drawing lines like this is that my hand smudges the lines, but that's just how it is with my hand posture... I prefer the darker lines I get when using india ink fineliners anyway though.

>>7160267
You could try using good filters after scanning your drawings. Smoothen lines, adjust contrasts etc.. Also, you can spend more time going over the same lines to thicken them in the right places and make them more prominent. Horikoshi did it too.

>>7161676
Draw bigger motives. And try using a softer pencil than HB

why is this board obsessed with clean sketch lines, the entire point of a sketch is to be loose and experiment. Then you redo it, add shading etc and finally ink.

it's like no one has actually watched a pro work from concept to finish on trad before, just digital slop artists.

>>7161817
Are you perhaps a fucking retard? What does any of that have to do with what he said + he posted hard evidence of manga inked on the paper he was explicitly referring to. You were owned before you even posted.

>>7161817
Ever consider suicide, anon? You're clearly schizo and ngmi with art. I think with AI combined with your lack of skill just gives you all the more reason to finally jump in front of a train.

>>7160267
There are different grades of graphite for better line quality go buy a bunch of different pencil and pens and draw,

>>7161800
thanks for the insight into manga papers
develop the ability to skim through threads and lightning fast speed filtering the pests and sometimes you get some practical information

>>7161932
>Nice clean lines anon, you got it,
you are blind
>OP picrel however, is digital.
you are retarded

Mechanical pencil plus smooth paper? I dunno. It's easy.

>>7161800
That paper in your pic is bristol, but it's just thinner. >>7161817 is right, but they overreacted.

>>7165920
the only thing separating bristol from normal paper is that it is multiple sheets glued together to form a multi-ply "board" of paper. The fact that manga paper is not that, means it is indeed NOT bristol, but just a heavy kg paper. That guy isn't right.

there's no point comparing yourself to seasoned pros that have been drawing amazing since they started and made money and fame off their art with MOTIVATES and INSPIRES them to be creative and plus ultra. Drawing as a /beg/ with a tablet for no reward while you fight off thoughts of suicide is not even in the same ballpark as what pros do. Of course your lines are going to be worse.

>>7168006
I'm .... projecting that horikoshi is a good artist???

>>7160267
Mechanical pencil you dumb noob


>get off from work (corpocuck job)
>too tired to draw
i thought it was just a meme but now i understand, this is awful

>>7158659
>Based fujoshit
>>7158646
OP that's why the best artists are all doing art full time instead of as a hobby in their spare time. They have no time, energy or motivation.

>>7158646
You need a less demanding job and living arrangement.
Work for a bit and invest in a van. Live out of the van. Penny pinch. Work only part time, the bare essentials.

>>7158646
>do less at work
>spend 1.5 hours getting tasks out of the way while relaxing (i.e. cooking and eating dinner while doomscrolling/watching anime/watching youtube videos)
>do some art practice for 1 hour
>play video games for 1 hour
>do some more for 1 hours
>finish final tasks of the day
>sleep

>>7158646
Learn to live a frugally as possible and lower your work hours
A significant amount of normies expenses are completely unnecessary

>>7158669
dogshit advice from a total retard.

Make sure you're staying physically fit and staying hydrated. I worked 10 hour days at a restaurant and managed to draw even though I'd come home and just sit on the floor for an hour. Use all your free time for art, you don't get big blocks of time like on weekends. Use the 15 minutes on the train or 30 minutes while you eat lunch like i did. You make time if you really care.

>>7158646
Draw before work. Problem solved

>>7158669
>>7158712
>less demanding job
>physically fit

why not both

>>7158646
> Get ideas while at work
> Too tired to even do them at home

>>7158646
I used to work 2-11pm
Id draw on my lunch break and after work.
Took about a year for my Patreon to beat my work paycheck

>>7158646
caffeine helps but careful not to lose too much sleep

>>7158646
Exert all that effort to being stellar in your own field (your current job) and work towards having your own empire. Drawing is only a hindrance to you at this point. If you loved it enough you won't put it aside as a hobby. Just choose another hobby that's relaxing and fun. Forget abt art.

>>7158918
>caffeine helps but careful not to lose too much sleep
caffeine is a trash drug for me. only good when I've had some decent sleep. if I'm tired and drink coffee I just feel like shit.

>>7158646
definitely not a meme
you have 2-3 hours a day of real(tm) concentration juice and you blow most of it out at work

>>7158959
yeah really. at work i'm programming and writing documentation and i think "this is easy" but when i get home i just don't want to do anything but scroll. maybe i'll mindlessly doodle for an hour or two but i'm not actually studying

>>7158659
slammer dogs, can read it on mangago

>>7158712
>Make sure you're staying physically fit and staying hydrated.
this is probably it too. ironically when i was working retail hell at a mall, i always had enough energy to come home and draw. now that i'm stuck at a desk all day i just don't

>>7159852
>now that i'm stuck at a desk all day i just don't
Yup. I work at a place that's split 50-50 between brainless labwork and pretty intensive office work (arguments in meetings, decision making, designs themselves) and days where I'm forced to do the latter are always far worse

This but with an EE degree and part time job

>>7159852
>at work i'm programming and writing documentation
This is your problem. Like the other anon said, you're blowing your mental load on your job
Try to avoid scrolling as soon as you get home, going on a walk beforehand or making dinner can help relax your mind before you do some studies at night. The hardest part of a routine is getting started
>t. also programs at corporcuck job

>>7158667
>OP that's why the best artists are all doing art full time instead of as a hobby in their spare time

Someone disprove this crab, I refuse to accept such nihilism. Besides, if that's true, then the only "good" art youd see would be very niche fetish art.

Sage

>>7158646
You gotta stop giving a shit now, anon. Don't offer to help anyone. Give excuses when help is offered. Don't go above and beyond. Remember that everybody is looking for the office chump to throw work onto and exploit, even if they don't realize it. Avoid any corporate events. Don't get involved in anyone's bullshit. These jobs want you to actually fucking care and they'll stick all the emotional energy out of you if you let them.

Anonymous

>>7158787
>Took 8 posts to give out the best advice and it's completely ignored.
Your brain is more active in the morning than it is at night. You're most likely to be productive with the first thing you do in the day than at the end. Especially with something that is as mentally draining as art.

>>7160278
>Someone disprove this crab, I refuse to accept such nihilism
Why tho? There's really good artists that do art as a hobby like WLOP but he's the exception to the rule, not the norm.
It's logical that the more you do something, the better you're, so pro artists that draw 8+ hours everyday will be exponentially better than someone drawing in their free time when they have spare energy.
It's not really nihilism, just a fact.

>>7160458
I'm not so sure about that. There's been studies that have shown there's a cut off point for learning optimization somewhere around 2.5 to 4 hours. So long as a person is cutting out social media and other distractions, they can wrangle together 4 hours a day of conscious learning.
A lot 8+ hour a day artists are spinning their wheels chasing random impulses instead of focusing. A surplus of time is not necessarily a good thing, sometimes urgency and precision encourage accelerated growth.

>>7160458
Never heard of this guy, but this seems to be a matter of taste here. To me this is incredibly generic work and nothing id ever consider "good" beyond raw technical proficiency. Honing your realism skills to this level also seems pointless as a hobbyist with the advent of AI. I mean people can like what they want, just a very limited definition here.

>>7160462
It's self-serving to my opinion but this seems more correct.

>be me
>work in construction
>moving heavy shit 8 hours a day with a 30 minute lunch pause
>coming home from work
>go to kickbox
>come home
>1 hour minimum of drawing
you have no excuses, it's the damn internet algorithm that is frying our brains.
Just close the tech and pick yourself up from your table, start drawing,just let the pen do whatever, eventually you will feel in a mood to draw, it's even kind of relaxing, it just takes mental fortitude.

>>7158646
This is why artists have always been vagrants and wanderers who lived on the peripheries. Bohemians and counter culture weirdos, poor people, etc. Live light and only do the bare minimum to stay fed and have a room to sleep in. You don't need most modern amenities or entertainment, they are largely distractions for plebs to escape from their discomfort of their own skin anyway.

>>7160462
>There's been studies that have shown there's a cut off point for learning optimization somewhere around 2.5 to 4 hours.

that's cool, yeah that 1 buzzfeed study that 1 time, but in practice it's alot different, art progression doesn't work the same way, you could draw 8 hours and finally get a good piece have a breakthrough that's happened to me a ton of times. & it's not as though we are studying or learning and pushing ourselves that entire 4 hours of drawing, we're just drawing and painting most of the time repeating shit we've already done.

>>7160462
also no one in the top % of anything is doing it for 4 hours a day, so there's no argument.

>>7160504
It's not the physical toll, it's the mental and spiritual damage. I've been in offices pushing paper and I've been outdoors doing physical labor and I'd pick the latter everytime. Office work has a way of crushing the individuality and artistic curiosity out of you that's hard to explain.

>>7158646
>just a meme
Oh, you can't imagine how bad it is. But corporatecucking is my only skill and I need it to pay bills and taxes. I have to slave my life away being a corporate cock sucker and knowing that every day is bringing me closer to having my as replaced by ai or an Indian which is going to do the same job with 1/5th the quality but half the price because corporate shit just cares for the bottom line.

>>7164580
I have no skills like wood working, construction, lawm mowing, welding and so on. I cvcked myself with science, math, physics and programming and I have to complete with Indians and AI creating stupid corporate software that is making the world as a whole worse. As >>7161344 said it's the mental burden knowing that you are doing something that is stupid, useless and no one really wants.

>>7160504
you know drawing is mainly a mental activity right? being mentally shot is way worse than be physically tired.

>>7158646
Use your morning mental energy to draw a lot before heading to work. It doesn't matter if you're mentally fatigued then after work hours.
I work as a developer, so I can shape my work hours pretty much how I want, so I usually draw for 2 hours in the morning, then start my work around 9.

>>7164617
i'll probably do this when i'm put on a hybrid schedule. then i'll be 3 days out, 2 days in, which will make it much easier

I had a spell where I was working 4PM-midnight and it was way better than the usual 8AM-4PM, or even 12-8PM shift.

I'd wake up, draw with full mental energy with a sun-drenched room, go to work with 2 meals in my belly, then sleep as soon as I got home.
I'm unfortunately a morning person but I end up wasting that energy at work

I’m having a crisis again. Seeing my coworkers with kids and mentioning things hinting at their age made me realize I’m among the youngest of them despite being 30 while these people must be mid to early 40s. Like dude, I’m wasting my life away…

>>7158646
>get job as "part time"
>made to work 6 days a week
>already half way through the year and only two art projects done
Something about my brain isn't working
something about this world doesn't work

>>7164617
Morning time is really the best time to get work done

>>7165684

I think I should just quit anyway. I was waiting on government assistance to be a caretaker as a way to convince my boomer parents to let me semi neet but I’m not seeing a point anymore in waiting. Hopefully they just fire me so I can get unemployment. I just want to draw 16 hours for real this time and I’m going to cut the internet off so as to not make the same mistakes.

>>7158646
>corpocuck job

is it manual labor, or do you sit on your ass all day? If it\s out door labor, I understand, but if you're a pen pushing fat corpocuck. You need to explain some things to us about how it effects your motivation to draw.

Example. Mining coal hurts my hands, and gives me carpal tunnel, I can't draw.

>>7165695

Not them but I used to work in an office (several even) but the longest one I worked at they had the same 5 songs blazing over our head every single day, week after week, month after month year after year. It was literal torture. For a stretch of a period they played Michael Jackson and I love MJ’s music but not every single day come on man.

And so, there is this thing called metrics. And meetings that could be solved with just 1 email, but you’re forced to be cramped in a small room to discuss what the “client” (the lady making all the $$$ off the slaves) wants. Right, back to metrics; you’re constantly compared to the top performer and the top performer refuses to shed light on their process. They think it’s a game and are proud to earn that “commission money” (an extra $3 on their paycheck totaling $15 an hour btw). Constant threat to fire you. Office gossip, high school 2.0. Etc etc. And I didn’t even get to the customers you’re dealing with all day on top of that.

Sure, I work from home now. But it’s still shaving away my time on this planet doing a task that even a monkey can do. I feel so devalued and replaceable. I should be a subject matter expert but nope, only people who kiss enough ass get the privilege to be my executioner. I’m tired of it.

>>7165705
So it's very psychological. I get it. Half of it is probably your own delusions. So you're looking to ad value to your appearance to help with your devalued and replaceable stigma.

Picking up an trade will do that. You'll make people happy. But you'll be dead by 5:00 and have no reason to draw, except on the week ends.

You must have loads of content stored in your brain. You could be making comics.

>>7158942
thats literally why I mentioned sleep.

One coffee sometimes before noon would be enough to give you the little extra momentum in the afternoon/evening hours and still be able to go to bed whenever you want

but if you can do it without, even better

>>7165713
It is. I’ve wasted away my 20s all for what? Working in an office going through all of that. I was in the office from 8AM waaaay before any supervisor was on the production floor. 8AM and leaving at 9PM on fridays and looking back they probably never paid me for that shit. They took advantage of me because at the time I had no car so it wasn’t like I could go look for another job. It was just down the road from my house which made it convenient. I did have other jobs that I had to get on the bus (and getting on the bus is its own torture I can talk about) or I had to ride my bike out for miles and miles…making a paycheck, only to then give what little money I made for “rent” to my parents at $12 an hour (every job I had paid this little). 10 years out the window for what? It’s little wonder why I don’t have barely any will left and want out completely to just work on my art.

I’d do gig work like doordash part time but I’m so afraid of the future of gig work and the expenses it entails but if immigrants are coming here making it doing that I don’t see why not. Just need only a few hours a week to cover basics.

>>7165727
every job* before the pandemic. If it wasn’t for the elites intentionally fucking up the world my life would still go on like that. It’s crazy.

>>7165727
>wasted

All depends on how you see your life. Can't say I've lived at my greatest potential, but I don't look back thinking I should have done this. I'm happy where I am, even though I've made big mistakes.

> WASTED 20's

I get it. I was chasing a dream that never existed for 10 years. But at least it served as some form of motivation. Now I do art to get things off my mind instead of finding a career or vain purpose for it.

>>7160278
Anyone doing it full time right off the bat means that they are extremely good and got plucked up early or their parents have money.

Everyone else is working.

>>7158646
I have heard "You should have been an artist" so many fucking times. I'm in my late 30s still working a 40 hour a week job in retail, and I have been working this way since I was 15. Most of my artwork has been doodles or drawings of pets and people for family and friends, but it is depressing to realize that in my 20s I thought some guy with big connections in art was going to see my stuff and get me into the business. What a fucking idiot I was for thinking that, I should have dedicated more offwork time to setting up job opportunities, but I was always so tired when I would get off from work, I would want to watch a movie or play vidya with friends.

>>7158646
I regret listening to people and not just quitting my job on the spot and taking a longer break for myself in between jobs. I had about a week in between my last job and my current job and it's just not enough to refresh yourself. I feel like I started this job burnt out already but luckily I think I'm the only one who feels that way since I've been getting great feedback at work so far. I just fucking wish I was doing that great with my art instead, you know? I'm bringing my sketchbook with me to work starting tomorrow and taking my lunch, those meetings where you don't actually know why you're there, and those awkward 15 minute blocks between meetings that are too short to get real work done to actually draw. I just keep reminding myself the amazing paycheck is worth it in the end since I can buy whatever art supplies I want, but it's getting hard to buy into my own bullshit when half the shit I bought hasn't even been used yet. Sorry to blogpost. I just had to get this all off my chest.

>>7158709
This is not how working a salaried corporate job works. You don't have hours. It's not the same as the wagie life, for better or worse depending on the week. Some are light, some really have you earning that paycheck.

>>7166232
at least ur a not a degen neet who banks everything on making it, its pretty awful to draw poorly and be giga depressed for months/years not drawing

1. Quit job
2. Go on disability for bad back + anxiety
3. Draw for as long as you want
Worked for me

>>7167421

Is there really no way out? I'm trying to find alternatives.

>>7166268
>disability
hahaha..
I'm DEAF and I don't qualify, despite losing my last job and not being hired because of it.

I'm only "50% disabled" according to lawmakers. I'll need to go blind or chop of an arm (yes that's how they rate it) before I qualify for "income assistance"

>>7167643
"Live" as in being able to not die on the street and becoming a fentanyl addict? Yes. Living comfortably with a roof over your head and all its amenities? No.

>>7167643
single, not married, and not 1 medical emergency or car crash deep? yes

>get off from work
>strong desire to make use of what little free time I have to draw

>be neet
>choosing to draw instead of sitting and staring at the wall is an impossible task

in one scenario you're going from working to having fun. In the other scenario you're going from doing nothing, to working.

Finally a job opening that I've been waiting for popped up and it's at least 100k/year. The perfect day job. There's no reason for these bastards not to give me the role with the experience I have.

>>7158942
This. It is impossible for caffeine to "give you energy", all it does is make you burn through the energy you already have a lot faster. Sleep, nutrition, and staying in shape are what actually give you energy.

>>7158942
yep, that's the thing with caffeine. If you sleep like shit it would be the worst thing to drink. You end up even more tired and you'll lose focus quite easily.

>>7158646
you're telling me, I do CAD and my brain is already melting by 4 (I get off at 5) and then on top of everything I need to find time and the will to do something creative


>Keep drawing
>raise standards
>fail to meet them

I'm becoming even worse

>doesn't draw
>old art still getting sold
it's fine i guess

>>7160588
>keeps drawing
>still having fun with it
I'm on an ascended plane, beyond crabbing and doom posting
I have won

To me,a Work is something that is the culmination of the dozens of drawings done in its development. When you doodle in a sketchbook,,every result need not be "good",immediately useful nor completely useful either. You learn through doing,so these sketches aren't for public consumption. You build a Work carefully, so the final drawing is spectacular.

>>7160588
>>KEEPS DRAWING
>>DOESN'T GET BETTER
I don't draw that much, like once per month, yet whenever I draw I get a lot better. My secret is that I study drawing theory a lot inbetween practice.

>>7160662
>once per month
1 day per month* and I spend hours drawing and trying to apply my art theory knowledge. It somehow works because my theory level is way higher than my practical skills so I'm teaching myself how to draw on the spot.

>>7160588
How much do you draw and how long have you been doing it?
For hours of actual drawing isn't the same than for hours of drawing while being distracted every 20 seconds by insta/tiktok memes.

>>7160588
I had a problem with this. But then I started watching Bob Ross videos. He taught me everything I needed to know to become a great Mangaka.

>>7160588
you have to draw a lot bro. jimmi hendrix annoyed his parents for years with shitty ass solos before he got good. the thing is he was enjoying it the whole time

>>7160588
How many hours are you drawing?
What are the exercises/studies you do?

>keeps drawing
>gets better
>keeps drawing more
>get worse
I don't understand

>>7160588
i think it has to do with fatigue. dodson talks about it, and if you're tired of doing something, you won't operate on the same level as someone who doesn't mind putting in the work. i find myself doing it a lot, and it's a hump i need to get over if i am to ever improve as a beginner

>>7160663
Top kek, lets see your work, bud.

>>7160629
This is why I masturbate a lot.

I’ll never be Knox, no matter how much Koreanmaxxing I try

Why live?

the day to day improvement is so non existent its hard to see the forest for the trees.

>>7161136
so with this one the whole idea was "catch" like the timeless game that baseball players? I always looked up to Babe Ruth, and so did my uncle Jerry. Jerry and I used to play fetch in the backyard, and I drew this piece in honor of him. the leading edge of the hand is a visual cue to signal to viewers to look at the ball, making them similar to Jerry, who has also been asking to retrieve the ball. it establishes an emapthic connection beyond the frame of the canvas between man and his best friend, Jerry, and I hope you like it anon there's a lot of theory behind this one don't try to take it all in at once.

>>7160629
>"Someone how works hard can never beat someone who enjoys himself."
Why can't you do both at the same time? You know these two are not mutually exclusive.

I realized I dont actually get better. I just find new ways to gaslight the viewer.

>>7161256
So I can get even worse than I already am? Thanks.

Is it normal to get angry at yourself for getting better? That just means you were wasting time doing something wrong before.

Do fish in a fish bowl become better fish?

why is there a rock on the table in this meme? i never understood it

>>7162495
I have no reason to
Like I said, I've ascended beyond crabbing

>>7162423
dude you don't have a lucky drawing rock?
what the hell, how can you even draw without one?

>>7162519
Or because everyone who says they "draw for fun" artwork always looks like shit

>>7160588
You keep repeating the same mistake over and over again that's why you don't improve. You need to focus on improving your weaknesses thru deep practice.

>>7163122
Guess you just have to imagine whatever, bucko.

I wish I had the vast reserves of mental energy I did when I was younger. Back then I was shit at drawing but I did it for hours every day.

Now I'm better technically but I spend more time thinking about what to draw than actually drawing. I have to spend hours brainstorming and ideas and eliminating shitty ones. Some days I don't even draw because I have no idea worth turning the tablet on for.

>just draw random things xD like a purple elephant wearing a bikini xDDD

no. If you want to make music you don't smash the keys of the piano. If you want to cook you don't open random containers and put it all in a pot and cook it in the oven for 2 hours.

>>7162519
>ascended
>still has the need to post here
kek

>>7163383
Need? No
It's fun, therefore I am here.
Nice projection though

>>7160629
I only have fun when I'm drawing stuff I want to draw.
Then I post it, get told I gotta go through a bunch of books and the fun is lost.

>>7163122
What does it matter if it does?

>>7160588
>draw what I want to
>start to be unsatisfied
>set a goal for the week like 100 gesture drawings with the occasional waifu in a void to not burn out on just grinding
>apply what I learn and get minor progress

>>7160617
The eternal state of becoming you are truly alive

>>7160629
i don't have the fundamentals down enough to "draw for fun", that's the real hell

>>7165351
The problem is not in the fundamentals, it's in the mindset. Yes, even at this point. If you can't draw for fun now, you won't be able to even if you do master the fundamentals.

>>7165497
this sounds impressive but it isn't true

>>7160588
>DON'T DRAW FOR YEARS
>>STILL GOT BETTER

>>7165544
>no arguments
I accept your concession.

>>7165789
>le debate me bro
terminally online retard

My best hasn't really improved in the past decade, but I can do it faster and much more consistently now, so I guess it's all good.

>>7165497
NTA but my problem is I'm having zero fun trying to learn the fundamentals.
Like I have fun drawing whatever I want, but the moment I'm required to draw something to learn all that happens is that I get anxious, frustrated etc.

>>7160588
Why do you wanna draw? Why do you wanna get better? What's your goal here?

when I draw something, it takes an infinite amount of time to finish. I never finish anything, I just eventually give up trying to save it.

There is no such thing as "hitting the wall" in art, by which I mean you cannot get better anymore. There is always new improvement available for you.

Pick an art study subject, and do something small every day to fix your problems with it: colour studies, anatomy studies, animal studies, imagination sketches. If you're scared of ruining nice sketchbooks and don't have a digital tablet, get a huge stack of printer paper and draw on it with cheap school pencils.

JUST KEEP GOING! I promise, it gets easier later!

>>7160588
Just keep drawing till you improve. Brute force it.

>>7160588
just make AI art. you're instantly super talented

>>7167502
Or use 3D models from Clip Studio, seriously, if you are still studying fundies and medical faggotry from the XVI century and are still ngmi you deserve it

>>7163376
Have you heard of freestyle jazz and experimental cooking? You're too far up your own head

>>7167530
Once you are out of your Dunning Krueger phase you'd understand that not everything has to be executed, silly little permaprebeg nigger

>>7167535
At least I draw, but keep daydreaming about it

>>7167539
But you draw shit, that makes you no better than a npc little shit void of virtues since you only "do" things, without any kind of impact or retribution.
You suck

>>7167539
Look at this guy, he has fun. Oh la di da Mr. Sunshine. Did you have "fun" today drawing your pretty little happy flowers? Fuck you. I don't want to have fun, I want to win. I had my fun, now I want fame/respect/attention.

>>7165246
Gesture drawing is a begtrap, dumbass

>I think I'm not improving
I had this issue as well until I started organizing everything I draw by month and year. Progress isn't always a breakthrough but goes bit by bit so you don't even realize it sometimes. Going back and reviewing works from a couple months ago actually lets you see that jump.

>>7160588
>DOESN'T DRAW
>KEEPS GETTING BETTER
PROVE ME WRONG (U CANT)

>>7161186
>Autists expect quotes to account for edge cases

>study colors, anatomy, perspective, etc
>everything looks fine
>try applying it to an original piece
>it looks like shit
>spend all day trying to fix it
>it still looks like shit

>>7167502
this. anyone can be talented these days. now get prompting.

>>7167502
>>7171006
>has the ability to generate anything he wants by just typing words
>just does the "soilent faggot doing art" prompt again and again and spams it every thread

actually hilarious
so glad all perma/beg/ schizos have one tag in common now (ai-generated) so you never have to see their art again

>>7168182
You got a chuckle anon, good job.

Drawing badly takes more effort than drawing well. I work so hard polishing turds and pushing past my limits and my art just gets worse and worse. Meanwhile good artists just go by muscle memory without thinking and shit out masterpieces.

>>7167524
This. Even professional comic book artists trade 3D models to make production faster. Just make sure the model is your own work if you want to publish your traced artwork.
Remember that it's only illegal if you get caught.

>>7167241
I can't find a single drawing-related subject that I understand well enough to attempt to put it into practice. If I had at least a vague understanding of what was involved in a functional drawing process, or understood how drawing worked in general, then improvement would be guaranteed. Without that, though, it's really hard to get anywhere.

>cant draw arms
>practice arms
>can draw arms
holy shit!!

>keep drawing
>doesnt get better
>in fact it gets worse
>feel no love for the craft anymore
>look for ways to enjoy drawing again
>realize the problem was my workflow being retarded
>change workflow
>keep drawing
>speed gets better
>art gets better
>experimenting gets better
>social media engagement get better
>commission money gets better
>everything gets better
I is going to make it, bois.

>>7167502
>>7171006
>>7171028
Oh, I'm real. Real enough to defeat YOU! And I did it without your precious gifts, your oh-so-special powers. I'll give them heroics. I'll give them the most spectacular heroics anyone's ever seen! And when I'm old and I've had my fun, I'll sell my inventions so that everyone can be superheroes. EVERYONE can be super! And when everyone's super...

 ...no one will be.

>>7172508
>cant draw arms
>practice drawing arms
>cant draw arms

>>7167928
Man those poor-skilled people always hit me.

Here's what young people can do with proper training: https://www.artrenewal.org/14thARCS<wbr>alon/Category/DaVinciInitiative

>>7172638
give me a rundown on your workflow because I'm still figuring that out

>>7173513
It's always young people who trained for few years but never ever there's a middle aged person who started in their 30's or 40's and still manage to achieve this level of skill

>>7173929
>It's always young people
Yeah no shit it's a competition for teenagers you doofus

>>7172900
>keeps drawing
>gets better
>not faster

>>7173929
>>7173931
>Look up late bloomers who succeeded in art
> All of them draw unsophisticated doodles and abstract shit including van Gogh

tired of this bullshit

>>7173867
I work with lineless art, so I doubt my workflow is going to be of much help, but in case it helps:
My initial workflow consisted in "more layers for more control", meaning that I had a layer for each individual piece just so I could have control over them in case I needed to do changes like moving or changing color. The part that screwed me over was layers growing in number, leaving me with nonsense like gif related that made the process a painful chore.
At the end I realized having control of those layers was not compensating me for the hassle that it was navigating them, in fact it was only making the process more time consuming. After this, I changed my workflow to only use the absolute bare minimum of layers and bite the bullet in case I was needing that missing layer control, it resulted in my a massive output increase that affected my social media engagement, my willingness to experiment new things and making improvements, as well it made art more enjoyable.

If I had to give you a concrete advice, it'd be: Stop giving a crap about the very little details, limit your resources effectively to avoid overcomplicating the process and find a way to always make things easier for yourself. Hope it helps.

Why do people care so much about drawing and getting better? Youre not enjoying the process, you just want to jump straight at the results, you want to see a 1080p Full HD 60 FPS drawing, but you dont want to walk the road to get there, youre not having fun, youre not getting enjoyment out of creating something you love even if it looks like shit.<br>Why havent you just jumped into the AI bandwagon already? Everyones shitting on drawfags and telling them that they are obsolete, but I havent seen an actual drawfag that does this for fun care. I thought AI was supposed to get rid of all of you, seriously, you guys are pathetic.

>>7174675
What the fuck am I looking at, how do you NIGGERS work with SO, MANY, LAYEEEEEEERSSSSS, I only work with like 3 max and that already stresses me the fuck out.

>>7174795
basically this
I noticed this is a problem with a lot of aspiring artists. They want the result, but they don't want to put in the effort to get there. They want the image in their brain to be put on the paper right now. They don't realize that their hands don't even know what the brain is seeing.

What do you do when you haven’t improoved after 6 years?

>>7174951
This was me.

I drew for years and didn't improve.

This plateau nearly ruined my life, but I didn't give up.

Instead, I decided to travel and find the greatest art masters in the world.

I journeyed from the far west, to the far east, and studied under every painter who would take me under their wing.

In the end, I still didn't improve.

Talent is real.

And I don't have it.

>draw something
>took me 1 hour
>fixing it
>2 hours
>its still bad

>>7174987
Real artists don’t have to fix things. That’s the whole point of line confidence, even in the sketching phase. Everything is perfect from the start.

>>7175004
I dont have that luxury. I need to brute force every line I draw

>draws
>gets worse
>draws again
>gets better
>draws
>gets worse
>repeats

I have no idea how artists can stay consistently good. Is drawing really like working out? Keep doing it till you get consistently good enough?
On some days, I draw good. On many days I draw terribly, how do I fix this? I just want to have a steady rate of stuff I'm proud of.

>>7174675
man, I don't have nearly as many layers as this example and I still take forever to do anything. People keep telling me that "speed comes with experience", but I feel like there also needs to be some sort of focused fix on top of drawing more. I'm doing something wrong and have no idea what it is or how to go about finding it.

>>7175772
You can't go at 100% all the time. Your skill will fluctuate from day to day that's just a fact of the trade. You shouldn't be comparing yourself to yesterday or even last week really but more like 2 weeks to a month ago. You are improving, if you're actually practicing and not just doodling, you just don't see it because you're improving by a point of a percent each day, you need to wait for a build up to really see it. Show up, don't look at your drawings and just practice every day and by this time next month you will see improvement.

>>7174987
Instead try
>draw something
>it took 1 hour
>leave it as it is
>draw something else
>leave it as it is
>revisit the first thing and draw it again

>>7174801
Personally, I built resistance because I've been doing this nonsense for roughly 7 years (much to my detriment, but still), so I know how to navigate through millions of layers and not go insane. It still makes the craft insufferable, but it's by no means not doable.
For reference, picrel is only 22 layers total, could have gone even lower, but since it was a commission, I wanted to play safe.

>>7176460
I'd say you have to find what's slowing you down, because there is something in your process that is slowing you down and it's not lack of affinity to your tools. Try looking at the way you draw from a more critical perspective, not towards what you're drawing, but towards yourself drawing. Alternatively you can record one of your sessions and watch it, that way you can yell at past you for the mistakes you start picking up.
To me, it was the aforementioned overcomplication of the process and also that I gave too much attention to the pixel-perfect details that were not going to be noticeable in the grand scheme of things. Your problem could be in the construction, or the way you focus on strokes, zooming in too much, [ctrl+z]ing way too much... little things like that. Start from those little things.

>>7161186
if you enjoy it you enjoy the hard work


/dad/ - Do Art Daily ...or every other day

Previous thread: >>7154362

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Rules:
>Draw every day (or your preferred frequency)
>Submit your work by 23:59:59 GMT
>Spend at least 30 minutes on each submission
>No loli or shota porn
>Miss a day and you'll be alright, just keep going!
>Maintain your streak and you too can become the LAST ARTIST STANDING!!
>Have fun!

Go and comment on each other's artwork; dads love attention!

FAQ:

What is the goal?
>To form a habit of drawing. The gains you make are dependent on you.

I am /beg/gar and not know draw, can I join?
>Yes x99. Stop asking and start submitting art, chum. Make something!

How long does it take until my account is approved?
>Between two to three weeks, usually when you reach level 3. Even unapproved submissions count toward your streak!

A brief history:
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sometimes i draw but what i draw is so shit i just let my streak end

>>7160675
Honestly just upload anyway. They're not going to be perfect and even on pieces that you do get it right, you shouldn't wait for anyone to care, because no one really comments. Just say "fuck it" and submit your work

>>7160789
LMAO!!! GOOD! GOOOOOD!
I WILL BE THE NUMBER ONE DAD! JUST WATCH! THAT'S ALL ANYBODY CAN DO NOW!
Good things come to those who wait....

>>7160789
two in one day... the end times really are upon us.. not an age of new /DAD/s but an age of darkness...

>>7160789
Sites been shitting itself. Last two days all my pieces were double/triple posting, and when I posted yesterday it didnt get sent through.
I sent my proof to Banana with discord screencaps so hopefully it can be restored

>>7160894
I'd bet money you'd be fine, they're pretty understanding. The point is that you draw every day, and so long as you're not repeatedly asking for restorations

>>7160911
I spent all of yesterday and today basically polishing this. Big dumb comm

If anyone has colour or light advice to make this pop more thatd be cool. I want the lightsource to be from behind but I dont want such severe contrast cuz theyre outside. Maybe I need more reflections from the sky and possibly ground

loliposter and a furry down in one day, DAD is slowly healing

>>7160789
PAGE ONERS. PANIC MEETING NOW!!!
THEY GOT TWO OF US

>>7160921
how much are u making from this comm, you should probably reference overcast or backlight illustrations, many vidya illustration work is usually backlight, easier to produce, less time spent on lighting complex details

https://www.weststudio.com/project/<wbr>league-of-legends-splash-art

if you scroll halfway down you can see the female champions splash, most of their body and face are in shadow with a backlight source, and only either bounce light or 1 small light source hitting a portion of their face

https://youtu.be/ax130yILbw0?si=W5r<wbr>m1nSJf1GO1rnj&t=184

kinda a meme for anime but theres still simplified planes where light hits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K_<wbr>R_jLOPHY

Sigh. i'm unfollowing DTierDaddy now. How could I possibly follow someone who is beneath me?<br>I'm page 4 trying to be page 1. I simply can't be looking behind me towards no streakers. I only look ahead.

>>7160789
>>7160894
What more proof do you need the site needs a get out of jail free card at least once a month. Imagine having a streak like that and losing it. Why start again? (eMm tHat woulD meAn yOu Do it For tHe streAk oNly) Yes that's one of the reasons some people draw and post on dad daily. Humans are known to be addictive personalities and rely on them to do pretty much anything. Sunk cost fallacy is a thing and seeing losing a huge investment guarantees that you will not do it again

>>7161098
This helps, thanks
its a 500 dollar comm. I didnt really wanna do it but the guy is a whale and has been asking me for months.
He wanted much more weirder shit like double/triple penetration but I managed to tell him id only do 1 peni

ulala got RAW talent. she's a true artist. i want to be like her.

>>7161302
Forgot to post the pic again
Dum dum

I don't want to learn how to do things. I humbly wish to already have the knowledge.

>>7160579
Is /dad/ ego the reason why /dad/ is stagnating?

>>7161285
Just charge him $1500 if he is a whale he will pay.

>>7161355
NAMES of dads not stagnating
(pls me be)

this could have taken a lot less time than it did

>>7161802
That's an impressive amount of detail on some things, like the signs and the red puffy jacket. The two things that stand out to me are the yaoi hands on the redhead and the guy on the very left lacking atmospheric lighting. Good job though, I like it

>>7161956
yeah i thought the hand still looked too big even after fixing the size of it already. i'm glad you like it though. i need more practice with atmospheric lighting and making all of the colours look like they're under the same lighting

>>7161517
Names of /dad/ not stagnating it is too hard to find 1.

>>7161285
im glad it helped, i autistically enjoy art learning and improving
500 for a coom illustration, where do u find these people, twitter or discord community? do i really want to become a coom commission artist or go the patreon route, ya i feel like multiple people in a scene is hard, why am i studying composition, light and value when i can just draw degen coom commissions

>>7161517
at this point it would be easier to list the people who ARE stagnating lmfao

Ulalal transitioned into a man. pls use the correct pronouns.

Final Warning.
Misgendering users (intentional or not) of DoArtDaily on or off site is cause for immediate termination of your account. We constantly cross check IP addresses on both sites to ensure this rule is enforced.
DAD is meant to be an open and inclusive environment for artists of all backgrounds to foster their skills and develop a safe community to share their progress without negative judgement of their work or person.

So far we've banned 2 people for nazi references this year, 1 for homophobia, and 2 for misgendering. In short, we are serious about enforcement.

>>7162420
>>7162421
This.
For the record my pronouns are: Gonna/Makeit and I'm gainssexual.

>>7162421
I highly doubt anyone on dad is a 4chan mod.

>>7162427
You still can't use the women's bathroom though.

>>7162431
Idk, Someone knew something about me that they either knew by cross referencing IP, or just a lucky troll assumption.

Or man's bathroom, idk. I should'nt assume genders.

what's with the kids these days? i personally wouldn't mind being addressed as a 'she'. it's actually a privilige on the internet.<br>complaining works, huh? like giving attention to a crying baby.

nodraw jannies and troons fear the chud uprising

Are people still streaming on discord when they draw and/or do studies together? <br>I wasn't on dadcord in a while and I'm not sure if it's worth it joining in again

>>7162612
alrighty then, thanks for letting me know. Gonna dust off my old webcam and see if I can join.

>>7162602
have seen fuck all drawing desu so i didnt bother
just seems to be a social thing, a lot of not drawing talk

i go in the voice channel when i'm drawing sometimes but i don't have mic so i might not be the best to talk to

can one of you begs in the paintover challenge make a super serious correction of one of the better artists? that would be hilarious

>>7162998
Ambition is funny to you?
Your comment says more about your own character.

I knew I would CRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN<wbr>GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE at this paint over challenge, and that's exactly what happened.

do girls on DADcord do face cam while they draw so I have something to look at while I eat dinner to make myself feel like I'm not also please don't cross ref check my IP please

>>7163054
all the paintovers are legitimately good so far

>>7163074
i can put my hair in twin tail and you can probably pretend like you are on call with a girl

I would never lose my streak because i cheat.<br>Who am i?

>>7163208
Who cares
They only cheat themselves

>>7163208
>Who am i?
uhh, the homosexual furry. oh wait, that's like half of /dad/

>>7163238
I feel like all the homosexual furries have left now. There's only like 3 active furry dads

but I like those three. please, spare them, daddy.

>>7163042
>>7163054
why are you so thin skinned about the paintover challenge? do you take yourself that seriously?

>>7163042
>>7163292
Yall just dont get it. And you'll never get it. But I see the many ways this challenge is untasteful, and so far it's met by expectations. Let's see if it hits all the checkmarks by the time it's done.

>>7163079
this >>7163343 was meant for you

>>7163208
You're a no streaker, and you'll always be a no streaker precisely because you DON'T cheat. Honest people like you will never remain at the top, and not for lack drawing, but because LIFE fucks you over and doesn't give you a choice.

Look what happened to DTierDaddy. He was honest, and for no fault of his own he got fucked. So I've come to the conclusion that if the game is rigged to begin with, then there's no such thing as cheating. The only HONEST people are the ones who recognize this reality and do something about this unfairness. And that something is having backups so YOU choose whether your streak ends, not a broken keyboard, not a power outage, and not life.
My streak will live, yours will die. And as page oners get fucked over by life one by one because they chose to not take matters into their own hands, I will be the new #1 DAD.

The 'game' is considered 'rigged' when the furry retard has a flawed strategy of continuously posting right before the clear deadline and pays the consequences.

does drawing horses make you a candy-ass?

let the retards be retards, I say. it'll get me to page 1 earlier than expected. then I can find solace in my quantitative superiority despite my major qualitative inferiority.

>>7163343
 >y'all
retard detected. name one of the 'many ways'

The midget fucker must've made up quite the sob story to get his streak resetted.
Very dishonest and shameless. I respect that. That's why he's in page one while DTier is down there along with all the new accounts now.

It's a bit annoying I'll have to wait longer to be number one, but it's admirable seeing someone choosing to get un-fucked by life when most would've even have thought that they could fight back and undo what wrong was done to them. He'll fail again soon though, so I don't see him as competition. All I have to do is wait still.

>>7163346
DTier isn't learning from his mistake of submitting just before the deadline desu

The Crab was right. Without talent there is nothing. ART is what you are born with. I give up.

No fucking way this mf is drawing under an hour consistently with that kind of output

>>7163711
I'll send you some of my talent. I have so much I don't know what to do with it.

this thread doesn't have enough shitposting and arguments to keep me entertained

I don't want to start the fire I just want to come to the campfire and watch

>>7163711
it's ok anon i'll convince all the /DAD/s to charge a genki dama full of talent just for you

listening to sad r&b love songs while thinking about my dad crush https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQy<wbr>bgJCswF0

I like listening to pop music and thinking about all the dads crushing on me<br>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVl<wbr>i-tstM5E&ab_channel=SabrinaCarpente<wbr>rVEVO

>>7161299
RAW, as in unrefined and inexperienced?

>>7163040
>Ball point?
I'd like to POINT out how you only drew his BALLS. Cocktober can't come soon enough

How to start Drama in /dad/? No, there is no need to, because the trannies and attention seeking whores will start it automatically. Bitches and whores. Never change /dad/ never change.

>>7163966
I don't use 4chin much. I wanted to share my drawings with someone but seeing the rules..

> no loli or shota porn

this place's not worth it

>leave DAD
>mental health improves
>drawing also improves
feels good man

>>7164168
mind pyw?
happy for you btw, you don't need to.

Kisame...<br>We're [posting our submission and then] leaving.

The rumored shadow thread took everyone who talks on discord I'm guessing. The people left behind are either new or the refuse of the community like the shitposters and DAD perverts.

That's to say the Dad community has been divided into two social classes. If you're on this thread you're at the bottom of the rung.

Shadow thread people:
Sociable
Skilled artists
Beautiful
Republicans, pro peace, pro Israel,

/Ic/ thread people:
asocial/antosocial
Bad at drawing. Can't consider them artists
Fat, unhealthy, insecure
Democrats, love conflict so they only hang here for drama, pro-palestine rioters.

It's pretty clear why they went on to make their own shadow thread. If given the choice, people with healthy minds would hand around other healthy minded people and avoid whatever disaster is going on with you freaks.

>>7164319
>pro Israel
>pro peace
pick one

I don't think healthy minds need to tell 4chan how healthy they are

Healthy minds want the best for you, yet they can only take pity on you. You yourself must choose to stop living in chaos; get off the road to Nihilism, cease chasing Hedonism.

healthy minds know it's always better to cum in the sink than to sink in the cum

>>7164349
Healthy minds wants you to be the best you can be. Not bath in nihilism and self pity, do the best you can when you can because that is all you can do.

>>7164329
I mean it'll be peaceful after all the terrorists are killed. Naturally you defeat the invaders occupying your home first.

I'll draw someone a cat if you can link me to the shadow thread

Happiness can only be found through selfishness. To place value on your beliefs above others. Compliance with a world so detestable can only conclude in a rotted soul. Rebellion is truth.

>>7164385
Not saying Hitler was a bad person(he was good, just misunderstood), but that's something Hitler would have said.

Still pissed the midget fucker got his streak reset. Literally nobody else got this privilege. I'm surprised all the page 1'ers didn't end their streak in protest. I know I would.

>>7164392
Hah. Funny because I now this is malicious bait to try and sneak ever closer. Maybe stop trying to be a snake and enjoy the journey.

>>7164393
I clicked "follow" on every page 1'er, and every time my competition's streak ends I unfollow them and revel as my list grows shorter and shorter.

It was admittedly unsatisfying having to refollow that midget fucker, but I know time is on my side and his streak is ticking closer to it's final end.

Yeah. Time is on my side, but that doesn't mean I'm just sitting and waiting. I'm always on the move to speed things up a bit so I can sit as number one that much longer.

>>7164392
>>7164408
dude you sound like you suck sooo much dick. Like i'm not gay but it's almost turning me on just hearing someone metaphorically gurgle jizz like this

now I know at least one person follows me

I have NO IDEA how you're getting "cock sucker", and "jizz gurggler" from anything I've said. But if you mean I metaphorically suck my own cock then yes, that's EXACTLY what I do. I hold myself to too high a regard to be less than number one. And if I can't be the number 1 artist skill wise, than I can certainly help having the number one streak. And when I am, it'll be you and everyone else sucking my cock. That's a promise.

>>7164436
I'll forget you the moment you lose your streak, but untill then yes, I know everyone of you by name and am checking if you post anything less than 30 minutes a day..

i'm bout to propose to my girlfriend in stardew valley and in good conscience i have to stop yearning over my dad crush. end of an era

>>7164459
>end of an era

Yeah, those 3 months were legendary

Btw will you continue if she says no?

>>7164459
same, but with my oversees gf who keeps asking me to send her thousands of dollars because everytime I do, there's something that ends up going wrong with her passport. I've already taken out many loans and sold my car, but I think it's worth it. She looks fucking hot on her profile pic.

>>7164464
she wont say no i have all of her hearts maxed out

FUUUUUUUUUUUCK I know it looks like shit but I can't tell what's wrong with it. How do I fix it FUUUUUUUUUCK.

>>7164459
I'll only give up on mine when I get to know them better and they inevitably don't live up to my skitzo expectations
They are the best dad though

I have been having fun making "posters" for different books I like. Posting this here because /gd/ is dead.

>>7165118
Ah. I only know what a Kafka is thanks to this comic strip. Idk what those books are about but nice cover.

I need you help artfags. How the fuck did this motherfucker manage to draw this chainmail? I've been trying for 2 fucking hours to get it right an I just can't do it.

>>7165226
Here's the full image.
Someone help, I beg you.

>>7165232
It's so fucking over. If I don't manage to replicate that fucking aventail I'm gonna quit drawing forever.

>>7165227
Don't copy how he did it, find a way to render it on your own implying the details, use actual photos of chainmail as ref not someone else's interpretation.

>>7165243
Yeah but his way looks way cooler.

>>7165227
this is my guess. cant really see in detail though. could also work as the inverse of this using white on black

>>7165243
it's pretty useful to pick up on stylization from other artists. though of course it's good to know what the real thing looks like first

>>7165227
>>7165253
I think this anon is right, it's hashing/shading technique with a curved line. The blurriness of the original picture adds to it, your eyes fill in the details

>>7165227
Found this random art on google, from afar the chainmail looks pretty legit but if you zoom in it's just squiggles

>no one mentioning creating custom chainmail brushes
Truly dad has fallen.

>>7165226
taking a look into how chainmail is woven irl I think what >>7165251 said is a good simplification of it. It doesn't look as good but I think it manages to communicate the idea of chainmail?

that or a custom brush yeah https://twitter.com/porforever/stat<wbr>us/1552256765768544257

>>7163346
It’s actually really not that hard to just draw every day.

t. streak-haver

honestly if your streak isn't even 3 digits you don't even register as a real user to me :)

cool bud to bad i'm still way ahead of you in terms of skill

two digit streakers getting uppity, sit down please

page 7+ master race dads are the best:
> they are beyond being concerned about streaks
> they draw just for themselves, without even sharing their work; they understand that it would lead only to envy from lesser dads
> "time spend? No, I don't know - I just draw as much as I feel like it"
> the only challenges they accept are the self-imposed ones

>>7165728
My streak is probably longer than yours
>implying this guy even draws and isn’t just the autist latching onto the thread like every other general on 4chan

Do you think it would be weird for a DAD that has been drawing safe stuff to suddenly start drawing smut?

>>7165847
reveal to me your sexual secrets NOW

>>7165847
I draw smut once in a while

I’d do it more but I have high standards, so I put a lot of effort into it when I do.

>>7163423
The site literally refused to allow my work to be posted and I had proof i drew that from activity tracker and discord dms to friends . I dmed banana 3 pictures and sent 3 sentences in the email

>>7165844
>throwing the a-word like that
Allah won't show mercy to ableists like you, Anon. Repent.

Feelsweird having a long streak when everyone else is better than me. Maybe I should reset so I'm more hidden.

I hate it. I'm looking at my sketch when it was all messy and I can see very clearly what it's supposed to be an then when I try to tidy it up it looks soooo bad. I hate it so much. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH<wbr>HHHHHHHHH.

>>7166006
or just stop feeling weird about it and keep your streak. the data on dads losing a longer streak and getting it back is not pretty.

>>7165892
agreed nigga went to far with that

>>7165847
no i do this sometimes it doesnt matter much

>>7165847
anon, we've got everything from furries to inflation fetishists on the site, sometimes even both combined. I don't think anyone's gonna bat an eye to whatever nsfw you decide to draw.

>>7165847
even if all active dads did think it would be weird - and we absolutely would, you fucking freak - why should you care?

does the idea of dads masturbating to your drawings excite or disgust you

>>7166278
Whose drawing you jerked off to?

>>7166278
I mean, if you draw nsfw, naturally there's the chance someone's gonna bate to it. At least you'd know someone out there likes your art.

>>7166278
I don't post my nsfw art for this reason, it's a weird thought

>>7165892
>>7166065
Nah. Fuck autists and their inability to read the room and/or shut the fuck up. It's not my job to tard wrangle you.

>dad I enjoyed seeing their art turned into a no comment reply snob after getting twitter fame

>>7166278
I'd be more surprised than anything given how low quality my works are.

>>7160579
Hello, what are "Houses" in the DAD site?

if a two digit streaker looks at me the wrong way I might just eat their bootyhole

(un)friendly reminder that if you have the time to read this shitpost, then you have the time to draw.

>>7160894
Does anyone know what software is that to track the overall time spend in each application?

Watch me drop my streak.<br>I'm sick and having second thoughts about art in general. See you in the elimination thingy.

>>7167299
>>7167294
please be page 1
please be page 1
please be page 1
please be page 1

>>7167294
just post something from last year or do a 5 min drawing and claim it took 30 mins, like everyone else

a small halo sketch page to get back in the saddle

I have achieved a 15 day streak:
https://dad.gallery/users/5477

How do I enter this mystical DAD Discord?

>>7167665
Send a private message to Vastian (Vastian#0988) and they should reply with an invite.

>>7167668
>they

Glad you pronounced their pronoun correctly. I'm tired banning people who misgender Vastian.

>Sign up for DAD
>Fail on my first day
Kek

My drawings don't take 5 minutes but boy do they look like they do.

>>7165887
Damn, actually blaming the site and being confident it wouldn't backfire on you; now that was a bold move. Only a true machiavellian narcissist would've been so arrogant to try that one and succeed. You could actually end up being number 2 one day.

Ok ok for real real this time I'll try to learn for real. Truth now.

>>7168761
telling people your goals lowers the chances of you actually accomplishing them. be a doer of deeds, anon, one drawing at a time.

>>7168995
Oh yeah? Then watch this:
I WILL become an unsuccessful artist.
I WILL have less than 100000 followers on social media
I WILL be poor and struggling with finding clients for my art
I WILL be completely unremarkable and forgotten by history
I WILL find drawing boring and tedious, not exciting at all

gg, ez

>envy /int/s who draw better than me
>envy the /beg/s who draw more and progress faster than me
Why am I like this? I just want to post for fun though. Why...

BANANA YOU FUCKING NIGGER FIX YOUR SITE I WANNA POST MY ART AND GO TO SLEEP BUT I KEEP GETTING ERRORS FUCK YOU

i'll make a submission for new meet that dad challenge when its made

>>7169718
First is portrait challenge which should be announced soon

A thread without shitposts is a thread that will last a whole month ngl

It's time. Someone make the tierlist. Here's the avatars:

https://gofile.io/d/9HbVwO

>>7169847
Ban this faggot for sharing viruses

Art is literally alchemy AKA Impossible.

Sorry for commentin on so many ppls work atm

>>7169981
>giving so many comments
>but skipping me
I'll never forgive you ;_;

>>7169989
I will find u dammit
I WILL! ; - ;

thanks for skipping mine. I'm too autistic to reply

Couldn't sleep.

Smoked dope.

Got silly.

first day. will watch youtube tutorials tomorrow

>post a picture
>your streak is safe for now, next dad submission period 00:42

fugg ::DDD

since none of you fuckers are gonna do it, I guess I have to do it myself:

I gotta make it a conscious decision to never open certain dads submissions purely because of the descriptions. Nothing personal

>>7170492
>I will go out of my way to avoid specific dads' subs because of their descriptions
>nothing personal though

i like to abuse the description function

description is for updates on yer mental state

Haven't slept.

Smoking away.

Silliness awakens.

>>7170492
tell me who. I need new dadcows to cringe at

I signed up for the yearly resolution challenge but never made the first submission where you lay out your goals for the year. Do you guys think it’d be too late for me to make one now ._.

>>7171039
yes. you're now past the point of no return. you can no longer set goals for the rest of the year and you're doomed to wander aimlessly with no real end in site, forever stagnating as your betters widen the gap and your lessers pass you by. welcome to the fold

>>7170917
>dadcows
never posting a description again

i will keep posting description feel free to react however

I will never comment on work by people who dont post descriptions, descripples as I like to call them

you can spot which dads suffer from a mental disability just by their submission history

>>7171222
weak. puny. self-conscious. insecure. descriptionless. a mere ant, walking in the same line as the person ahead of you, afraid of straying from your predetermined path. the path of least resistance, from point a to point b, from birth to death, with nothing of value in between. you sadden me greatly.

>>7171359
Cool it choob! The horny chat is full enough!

>>7171269
True. Love for routines (like drawing every day and doing it for over a year) is one of signs of autism.

>>7171514
so true, anyone with a record streak higher than 30 is immediately suspicious

>>7171568
i wish i were this naive and gullible again, good old times

ReiN is cheating. I saw his hand study ages ago. Especially that 52, YIKES!

>>7171652
Please don't hesitate to e-mail banana if that's really the case.

>>7171660
>he thinks that there's something wrong with reporting filthy cheaters
What's the colour of your skin, Anon? Just curious

>>7171652
found it >>7158681
> 05/06/24
i had to comb through every beg thread

>>7171652
>>7171674
>ReiN confirmed for a cheat uploading old work
Amazing find, thank you for your hard work, detective Anon. Will you message any mods about this? I don't think they're browsing dad thread often enough to notice those posts on their own

>>7171694
i think you're a mod trying to find out who i am by getting my email. i'd prefer to stay anonymous, so no.

>>7171698
>you're a mod
Nah, I'm just too lazy to do it myself, while being autistic enough to be bothered by this blatant rule breaking.
>to find out who i am
I've reported cheaters several times in the past and literally nothing changed. I'm pretty sure they have better things to do than maintaining a list of people that are trying to help them with cheaters

How embarrassing for everyone<br>Why would you do that? It's even a sub 20 streak uploading weekly.

Holy moly I have no idea how to make a fursona

>>7171717
Checked cool digits

do dads make alt accounts with zero submissions and zero hours make house teams lose or something

Keeping up a streak isn't making me any better. Man I wish I could learn how to be good. I just don't understand.

>>7172143
pyw. Unless you're A tier or higher, I'm sure someone will try to help you.

>>7172143
>>7172155
If you wanted just to vent that's also understandable, so no pressure.

WHERES THE SELF PORTRAIT CHALLENGE!!<br>I WANT TO DOX MYSELF

>>7172213
You don't need a challenge to do that

Really depressing to see otherwise creative dads slowly regress into drawing nothing but cheap porn

>>7172238
those bills aint gonna pay themselves you know

>>7172238
you cant pay rent with bird paintings

Wait wait wait. You learn how to draw in order to... Draw things that OTHER people like? LMAO

>>7172256
>>7172258
Uninspired pinups won't pay your bills either aha

>>7172269
its easier to get money from coomers

>>7172261
dudes like this will pay top money for some furry porn when their balls drop and they start getting sexual thoughts about the family dog

>>7172269
That depends entirely on where do you live, Anon. If you happen to live in a country where 200-300 USD is enough, then it's perfectly doable.

I've been going over my copy drawings and measuring them. And what I'm seeing is that a lot of the time I am off by half a centimetre and that makes such a huge difference. I still do make the line go the wrong way because I am seeing with my thoughts instead of my eyes but the hugest biggest difference is that small distance drastically changing the shape of a person.

>>7172269
You might be surprised. You'd be doing better than most "inspired" anything.

Wait why am I learning to draw? It would be cheaper and faster to pay other people to draw for me. Holy shit I'm a genius. Think of the time I'd save without having to upload to DAD every day.

Wait why am I fucking my wife? It would be cheaper and faster to let other guys fuck her. Holy shit I'm a genius. Think of the time I'd save without having to fuck my wife every day.

>>7172398
lmk if you're hiring, anon. I'm available to fuck your wife full time and can start today. DM'd you my resume.

>>7172338
>It would be cheaper and faster to pay other people to draw for me
Anon, that's brilliant!
pls hire me

It feels so good to skip over your thumbnail and just continue with my day

why is this not the fashion challenge badge

>>7172645
how hard are you pressing? Let your tool do the work, save your wrists/ tendons in the long run.
keep it up btw, looks like you got your 14 day streak if you want to dm vastian for dadcord

>>7160579
Did this doodle today. Pop Team Epic X Fall Guys.

>>7172750
>how hard are you pressing? Let your tool do the work, save your wrists/ tendons in the long run.
to be fair if he's using a shitty HB pencil instead of something an artist would use (like B2, B4), then pressing hard is the only way to make dark lines in a reasonable amount of time

>>7172905
I was suggesting to save his wrist. You can make it kinda darker by pressing, but it's not worth it. It's a pen btw.
You can also adjust the contrast in post if you give a shit about it being readable in a photograph.

>>7172888
I made this mistake too back in the day, but once you're past a certain threshold you just can't fathom anymore how it is possible to draw the thumb on the wrong side

>>7172888
It takes 1 second to do that gesture yourself and check which way your thumb faces. One second.

>>7173372
And then you have to remember to mirror it, since the character you're drawing usually isn't drawn from the first person view

>>7173378
Oh my god. You don't. You just need to know if it points to your head or not.
Think, anon.

>>7173380
You still have to translate that to the 2d projection of a figure that's rotated when compared with your own position. Sure, after a while it's really natural and easy, but you can't really blame begs for making such mistakes. You probably lack empathy or imagination to realize this, but it's really not an intuitive process - I remember even Marco Bucci admitting on one of his podcasts to making this mistake while painting one of his earliest commissions.
I'd ask you to "think" as well, but you're clearly incapable of doing so.

>>7173387
I don't need to think. All I need to do is extend my arm, palm facing me, and see that thumb go out pinky go in.
[Ad hominem].

>>7173429
Why? Will the simple trick only work if I do?

>>7172750
Yes you are right it's a bad habit of mine.
>keep it up btw, looks like you got your 14 day streak if you want to dm vastian for dadcord
Okay I will

Are there any tactical advantages to joining the discord?

>>7173503
Most of the DADcord's active users are either on a weekly frequency or have no streak at all. Take that as you will.

>>7173503
You get to ctrl+F your name and see what people have been saying about you. If you get 0 results, then that should be a good motivator to improve

ranking of active dads based on their cat pfps

>>7172989
>>7173372
>>7173387

Thanks. Wow, I didn't even realize I made such a stupid mistake. Will correct that.

>dad takes a long break from posting to the site
>comes back
>he's significantly worse than before

There has to be some well guarded secret to learning how to draw. I bet they all made a pact with a daemon. Maybe if I kill them and drink their blood I will know how to draw too.

>>7174386
It's talent. Either you were born with it or not. You should have picked better parents.

>>7174386
I did some human sacrifices to get my skills, but I'm still beg. lesson learned the hard way: quality > quantity for your rituals.

>>7174386
Try drinking their cum first. It's easier and safer

>>7174386
>>7174387
the only thing you need to have is the intuition to tell you if something looks wrong. from there it's your choice whether you keep doing them wrong or grill yourself until you get it right. the only people talking about talent are lazy cunts and cowards.

>>7174393
I'm not that lazy but I believe talent is real and your success in any field mainly depends on it.

>>7174393
I'm not sorry but you cannot deny the existence of talent. It is a stat only the lucky few were born with. You can still become competent, but the talented will always be at the top.

No no, it's because you haven't bought enough of the right art supplies and courses yet

how many page1ners can you name without looking at the list?

>13 day old thread.
Can we get the 14 day/2 week milestone?

before the thread ends THAT has to be posted

I can see it in my head why can't I draw it down. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<wbr>HHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE<wbr>EEEEEEEEEEEE.
It doesn't make sense.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH<wbr>.

>>7175158
just draw a grid and then imagine the same grid over what's in your head anon, draw what you see in each square and you will have a perfect drawing. If it still comes out weird just make the squares smaller.
But we both know you can't, because what you see in your head is an amorphous blob that vaguely resembles what you want, your brain just tricks you into thinking it's detailed. Actually try focusing on them, on relationships between shapes: how big they are, how fart apart they are from each other, the thickness of each line. You have to turn off the brains ability to add details to nothing

It's not time yet. I must continue faking my death.

>>7174914
If I was drawing like this after half of a year of practice, I'd give up as well.

>>7175400
cool, now post yours you loser

>>7175405
And that would prove what exactly? You'd just say that I'm abnormally talented, that I was drawing significantly better at that point of my art journey because of my gift and superior (white) genes and thus you'd reflect any criticism I have for Valley. If I were to assume maliciousness on your part, then it's possible, that you asked that just to figure out which dad I am to bully me like some white knight.

But back on topic of drawing: a better way of judging what's a realistic improvement would need a larger sample. Thankfully we have such examples available online! Check out progress pics, before and after, that students of a 5 day course of "Drawing on the right side of the brain" did. Picture related. After just 5 days a complete beginner already surpassed Valley. And there are many other students like that as well.
Granted, there were also students that are still below Valley, but given how much more time Valley had, I think it's reasonable to expect him to reach higher quality. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it really looks like Valley is a permabeg, with no hope at this point and if that's the right conclusion, then there's no point for him to keep trying. If Valley really gave up, then I'll be happy for him, because he'll have time to try out a different, better suited for him, hobby. Hopefully he'll have a more fulfilling life this way.

drawing on the right side of the brain.png

I wonder if there's a God of Drawing I can pray to.

>>7160579
Drawing of the Day #2. Took me many hours to get the proportions right since I didn't trace. All feedback appreciated.

>>7175583
This is either bait or a retard
DAD isn't a gallery where you post your best like insta, we're not curating a social media account with it.

If you actually drew for any substantial amount of time before, you'd understand artists need to be able to make bad works. Not everything on there is posted with the intention of impressing you or making you cum.

Now go actually draw or fuck off.


You could be the next storyboard artist for Hi Hi Puffy Ami/Yumi

>>7160569
If you improve on everything else, then that ass could work. Do less chicken scratching too

>>7160569
Good enough for baraag your art is already above 40% of people there

im /beg/ to, but ngl hand need redone + ass low detailed and composition - why viever cannot see ass fully? Is canvas pixels is paid?

>>7163499
Appreciate the hand and forearm advice, but there's NO WAY i'm actually this much of a faggot to make Marisa's ass THIS small
Also, the ass is cropped like that because the original picture's body is half cropped as well, which is why you can't see legs in both pictures, i just want the art to be true to the original, that's all.

>>7163510
np, your image make me laugh as hell.
Anyway can you make some sketch already (curious see what you plan lineart)
https://www_pinterest_com/search/pi<wbr>ns/?q=hands&rs=typed
https://www_savepin_app/

>>7163969
Your fag ass doesn't even understand the beauty of phat asses.

>>7164003
Good luck trying to sneak this on ifunny. I don't even draw porn and I've been denied many times.

>>7164003
>progress
kill yourself, tonight

>>7166461
HOLY SHIT IT'S EVEN BETTER AND HOTTER THAN MINE.

>>7166467
Fuck off fag.

>>7164003
Absolutey based. Nice work dude.

>>7164003
the problem is that your pose is lazy, try doing it IRL, you'll find that you can't look that far back, her shoulders should be turned further and thus her face too, half angle doesn't work on the face here, probably more of a 45 degree angle, as a result her body should be more twisted instead of from a straight on veiw of her back, this would make her hand look more natural rather than on backwards, finally the thumb connects too far down, it shouldn't be coming from her wrist
I can't comment much on colouring/lighting, it seems passable for now, you should work more on the posing and maybe fix the face a bit more and the rest will be fine for the time being.
I'll just say on the face I think it's too small

>>7166461
do you upload art anywhere? I'd like to see it

>>7160569
You need to open your own atelier.

>>7166461
>bigger ass too
throughout my years of commissioning, i still always appreciate the art with the most lewd SOUL, please more.

>>7166461
What's your social media account?

>>7168799
>>7166920
I mostly draw lolis but it's orenjipiiru

>>7171965
So you're saying you're the same one who drew this shit?

>>7171965
>orenjipiiru
How does it feel to be a legend among cunnychads?

Can I get a fat loli gf booty in the same way as >>7171818 ?

>>7171965
>>7171993
>>7172089
fucking embarrassing. Pray that a real man never connects your art and your face

>>7172101
Even in death, the meme can cause this amount of seething from anons. How based.

>>7172101
>real man
we have a larper over here

>>7172409
>makes loli porn
>makes pedophilic dogwhistle meme
>people are reasonably weirded out by this
>"hehe hoho everyone is seething fucking gottem checkmate lol im so heckin smart lmao so based look how many likes this get on X, formerly twitter kek and jej"
Granted, zoomer humor is a mix of being groomed by trannies, schizophrenia, porn addiction and overexpose to extreme fetishes at a young age and a desperate craving to get validation for their porn addiction by deluding themselves that everything they do makes someone else mad because they get mad at anything that doesn't fit their own delusional world inside their heads

Making a meme like that isn't worth putting a target on your head because
>wahoo ppl be seething fr fr so baste and cooke fr lmao

All you need is call a lolishitter a pedophile and they can't help themselves trying to cope and damage control and actually seethe into oblivion, which is way funnier than getting normies riled up with low hanging fruits.

>>7172608
lolishitters are on a crusade to normalize pedophilia through memetic warfare and porn, either by claiming that
>everyone is seething
>it's just a joke
while they keep pushing loli porn in the background with the excuse
>but japanese people like lolis it's completely normal
or other extremely predictable and overused bad faith arguments, deflections and insults.
Of course, also trying to find any and all weaknesses to discredit, mock or otherwise damage control anyone who dares criticize them in an objective manner that simply says it how it is, while trying to convince everyone that what they're seeing is not what they are seeing.
Most of them also like pretending to be the victims of unfair treatment blaming groups like "the puritans", to score points with other porn addicts and immature people.

Calling a lolishitter a pedophile is extremely effective because it genuinely makes them mad, since it triggers their own insecurities and makes them think they have been found out and they are unable to defend themselves in good faith, while unable to ignore the accusation, because ultimately, it is very much true, objectively and observably so.
Same as when you say that nsfw art sphere is all carried by minors and bots; it is very true, but they can't help themselves trying to discredit it through any and all dishonest means that would only fool and work on kids, because that is the prey they have specialized themselves to.

Lolis are for hugs only.

1700035652646564658632662646 you are so highly predictable, anon .png

>>7172608
>>7172641
This meme being made has done immeasurable damage to anti-lolifags, almost as much as them being outed as actual sex offenders.

>>7172101
>>7172608
>>7172641
Holy shit the sheer seething orenji generated with that drawing. It just makes me wanna join the party too, i'll follow his steps so i can make anti-lolifags seethe aswell
>Calling a lolishitter a pedophile is extremely effective because it genuinely makes them mad
90% of lolibros will confirm it and will not give a fuck about what moralfags like you think lmao

>>7172608
>>7172641
ts actually amazing that we have now redditors here calling loli memes "zoomer humor". New generations of posters completely lost any idea of what 4chan even is.

7172758
7172765
7172779
>ITS LE REDDITOR ACTUAL ANTIS MORALFAGS SEX OFFENDERS
And there you go
e z

>>7172817
>Damage control
Totally fucked by a drawing kek

>>7166461
>>7170532
>>7171818
I’ll never be able to draw like this, I’m stuck on the same level as OP. I wanna kms

>>7172827
He's right, they're just shitty people who often deny it.

>>7171965
I don't believe this shit, draw Constanze

>>7171965
I just realized that's not his @ anymore since that one got banned


Come draw online to gether

>>7161202
I drew this one. got kind of owned by the 1 px brush desu