How often should i do studies?

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i know studies are important for improving, but how often should i do it? i dont want to be stuck in grind hell but at the same time i want to improve faster<br>pic unrelated


TRU BEG GENERAL

This is a thread for true beginners. Too many people who are already good at art posting in the other /beg/ threads.

If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

/int/ and /adv/ please refrain from posting your work. Please only post to give critique/advice/redline, etc

Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/<wbr>1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGq<wbr>wSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpH<wbr>w6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwi<wbr>ci/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77<wbr>TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>Don't know what to draw?
Give this a shot >>7092050

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

I don't know why you bother. Everytime you've made these threads it's failed.<br>The only reason /int/s post in beg threads is because the board's too slow for one.

what do you think so far? I don't know what do with her left arm.

>>7175876
what happened to the annoying orange???

I'm definitely improving on my accuracy! Compared to before, people can recognize who I'm drawing so the likeness is there (and not just because I wrote the name in the corner either). Crit welcome but be gentle

>>7176308
never buy weed at the gas station bruh


T480s for painting

Anyone have experience painting with a Thinkpad? There's this refurbished one that looks good, 16gb ram but integrated gpu.

Also doing art with laptops in general. I do have an ipad but I can't see myself doing more involved and detailed work with Procreate.

>>7174230
It shouldn't be different from working with any other PC. You'll have less screen real-estate though and it may struggle with heavier art programs. You're using an external tablet for it, correct?

>>7174233
Yeah that'd be the idea. I'm aware that PS runs better on Mac but I've been thinking of doing everything in Krita

>>7174238
That laptop should definitely be enough for Krita. I can run Krita well on my Athlon X4 845. You may not benefit from Krita's GPU acceleration with that integrated GPU though.

>>7174230
you can always use sai if all the other programs lag

Get a Samsung laptop that comes with an S-Pen. I use a Samsung Notebook 9 which is kind of older at this point but it still rocks through Clip Studio and Krita. You can find pretty decent ones on the used market but check out reviews on youtube before you buy.

>>7174230
>>7174230
I'm using a t14 with a wacom intuous and it's perfectly fine. I use the laptop keyboard for shortcuts and hot keys and just have the table net to it.

I actually used to have an LCD tablet but I found it wasn't good for my posture or eyes as I would just lean over and stare at the screen from very close. Switched to my current set up and have no problems.


How would you describe the coloring style of Gundam The Origin and how should I go about replicating it? I think I want to color my illustrations like this.

>>7174246
Looks like watercolor, and mix of dry-on-wet and wet on wet with large brush for the dust cloud effect.

>>7174246
It's his own interpretation of Japanese style watercolor.

if I had to guess the materials
-it is for sure cold press watercolour papter, I just don't know if it is 100% cotton
-pigma microns
-watercolour

the most important part is the papter, hot press paper will not look like that at all

Thanks for the replies y'all, it's really helpful. So it's actually watercolor.

>>7174280
My pigma microns bleed when I try to watercolor over them. Could it be my paper?

>>7174962
it could be ink wash as well, but personally leaning on watercolor, but mainly because it is the medium I am most familiar with and understand the technique to reproduce this effect.

>>7174983
actually I take the poster color back it could just be regular holbein watercolor I don't fucking know

>>7174994
it looks like water color, and really wet water color too.

>>7174983
and this is why I say brush
https://youtu.be/X_3Ed6jIiEw?t=2474<wbr>1
unfortunately there's no footage of him painting or any mentioning of his materials anywhere

>>7175000
he even admits to as much here
https://youtu.be/X_3Ed6jIiEw?t=2609<wbr>7
and just a bit later mentions the paper, but he might not use the same for full on illustrations who knows
https://youtu.be/X_3Ed6jIiEw?t=2626<wbr>6

>>7175007
this is insane, and inspires me to get better at brush. he's right fineliners are bullshit,

>>7174972
Impossible. Pigma microns are supposed to be waterproof once dry, even if the paper is shit. Have you tried another brand of water-proof pigment liner?

>>7174246
All old anime shit uses CYMK. You’re welcome. Try poster paint.


free charicature

anyone want a free charicature? it's for a school project. I will need a decent pic of your face though. the image is a charicature by me.

>>7174492
Can you do a caricature of the British prime minister?

>>7174495
sure, add me on discord: annouk0292

>>7174492
Finally we meat, Mr. Bean.

> https://old.reddit.com/r/redditgets<wbr>drawn/new/
Have fun


> Thank you for always using Fantia.
>May 21, 2024 (Tuesday) from 3:30 p.m.
>Visa and Mastercard credit cards have been temporarily suspended.
>We apologize for the inconvenience, but we ask that customers who use Visa or MasterCard credit cards use JCB, American Express, Diners, or other payment services.

Fuck off America, seriously.

>>7174338
fuck off crypto shitter and your volatile currency.

>>7174347
You're part of the problem with your nonsense spewing

>>7174347
>Implying fiat isn't volatile and doesn't lose its value
Have you been living under a rock this decade?

>>7174337
I love how it's legal to control others by owning their payment options.
What's next? You're not allowed to use your credit cards to support NeoCanaan?
I'm sick and tired of this farce. You all can blame puritans or AI pajeets but the real culprits are laughing inside the banks around the world.

>>7174404

You can always start your own bank if you don't like it.

>>7174347
Nothing stopping you from just converting it to real money right after the purchase is done, tho
Most crypto payment providers literally do this

>>7174418
yeah but it just happens that mostly no one use crypto in the commission's market, all use paypal as base, then they just use a secondary method usually the most used in their region, like i dont know... payoneer or wise.
In general people that use crypto are only anons that have are in some shenanigans or schizo anons that want a particular, you know, particular, reason to be anonymous online, thing that dont happen in most of the people because yeah, they dont care, for them is taking extra steps to do something that is already easy and comfy to do in most of the world.

>>7174404
>You're not allowed to use your credit cards
I'm pretty sure that if you piss glowies off then you can get your credit card blocked and bank will just act stupid.

>>7174337
the great hentai artist axe, bro the niggers at baraag must be seething, legit only subscribestar will save me till they get presssured by payment processors.

It is the begining of the end for loli artists. Rip

>>7174490
and subscribestar, you need to wait till they approve you oh man this amount of artists on baraag that will quit will be insane.

>>7174338
Okay so what the most stable crypto coin out there ?

Why Simple ATM transfer isnt work for this ?? I buy my video games with those

>>7174591
If you're a pussy, USDT. USDC.

>>7174337
>AI
>crackdown on porn and anything resembling characters under 18 years
>most art websites becoming shit
I got too late into art.

>patreon and gumroad capitulates to payment processors looking to reduce controversy and liability for themselves
>pirates pay developers to fix up archivers immediately so people can save content, including many learning resources; ends up the only record of like half the purge because many artists didn't bother to reup
>fanbox capitulates to payment processors looking to reduce controversy and liability for themselves
>the same group heckled for even mentioning the word "AI" has developed and is actively developing tools to make sure that people prevented from paying can keep their content while they figure out how to continue their support, also safeguarding the data the creators themselves probably didn't even backup in case the companies go further
>people genuinely suggest a class of payment network that allows for a much higher degree of sovereignty because it doesn't have an entity to make these risk management decisions
>they are called indian shills probably holding fifteen million shitcoins and shown the door with no serious discussion on the matter
Somehow artists, people who care about art, and artists who care about art are actually entirely different groups of people

Why do countries allow themselves to be ruled by American credit card companies.

>>7175231
you can thanks the EU for that mostly they did nothing when monopoly started to come

europlay and master card shouldn't have fuse
it just recent time I don't we had a concurrent to the swift system until china wanted one

>>7174659
>how to continue their support, also safeguarding the data the creators themselves probably didn't even backup in case the companies go further
too many times this shit has happened where pixiv just deletes work and the only place you can find it is on exhentai or kemmono su.

>>7174337
Reminder Trump caused this by signing FOSTA/SESTA.

>>7175231
>Resist gringoylem hebrew banking practices
>Get Saddamed', Gaddafied', Bashared'
You think there is any other option?

>>7174338
>mindgeeks and nutaku are the biggest shills for crypto and ai in the adult industries
Nah, i'll pass, groomer.


how do i commission an artist to create a reference sheet of my OC if i suck at drawing

>>7174373
AI concept art sheets kinda suck so bad, so fucking repetitive, with the same clothes and patterns but works if you are creating a very mediocre videogame

isnt that why youre commissioning them????

>>7174370
Find someone with a style that you like and pay vtuber level cash

>>7174370
Just... do it, tell them to, its literally that simple.

Why so many artists are against drawing OCs? I can count with one hand the amount of people that dont have "I dont draw OC" on their ToS.

Draw a stick figure with the features you want and describe it as well is usually the most helpful reference for me.

>>7174559
thank you, this is the kind of answer i was looking for. does it also work to have small pictures of features of other characters to show what i’d like?

>>7174533
I don't want to draw your slop designs.

>>7174636
I dont want you to, fag, I can do that myself, I was just asking why, if people are willing to pay drawfags, do they refuse, seems weird to me.

>>7174533
beats me, I don't know why would you be that stingy with OCs in commissions of all things. Maybe they just want to draw whats popular (fan art) so they can get more eyes.

>>7174533
The fuck? Since when? I have found exactly zero artists that are against drawing OCs, in fact, it is what they draw for commissions almost exclusively.

>>7174370
To answer your question, OP, you'd be surprised by how versatile some artists can be when it comes to brainstorming and character designing. Find yourself as many references of clothes, features and other whatnots that you want for your character and make a very rough sketch of them for the artists to get a good idea on how to use those references, doesnt need to be a perfectly illustrated draw, just something to get the points across.
You can also try using AI to create references of those design elements if you have the patience to proompt, I know for a fact AI works wonders to circumvent the brainstorming process as one of my clients did this with me for a logo.

Also, and this is a very shameless plug, Im available for commissions if you want as long as the design is not so overly complicated, I really dont mind having to do corrections and filling blanks, if patience is a concern to you, I do have plenty lmao. If you dont want to, that's okay too.

Good luck, OP.

>>7174533
Nigger what are you smoking? What 99% of artists draw for commission is people's OCs

>>7174533
If I had to guess
>A) 90% of all OCs have bad designs
>B) Obscure OC that's familiar to maybe a handful of people will not get as much attention as an established character from a published media
>C) Artist doesn't want to be hounded by fetish commissioners
>D) Artist is doing some kind of "give me a character to draw" thing and doesn't want a billion "Thanks for the chance" replies with an OC that falls into one of the previous categories

But an artist not accepting OCs is rare. I've come across a few but they're in the vast minority.

>>7174533
I give you benifit of doubt and assume you meant, making new characters and they sheets.
In such cases artist just dont want to deal with hazzle of costumers making billion changes and not expecting to pay more for wasting time. Tbh most commissioner horror stories do comm from ref sheet comms.

>>7174533
I don't want to draw Toucan Henry!


is it worth it to use newgrounds in 2024?

I'm looking for new places to post stuff and newgrounds has been in my mind, but I get the impression that it's only worth using if you already have a big following, thoughts?

>>7174573
What kind of content do you have to offer?

>>7174575
Furries lel, probably also dark fantasy stuff

>>7174582
In animation format? I've always thought newgrounds was a dedicated site for animation. I don't think that changed. You should check their rules and norms, They have rules and terms about using certain media elements. They don't allow AI (except for "backgrounds and props"), and neither allow copyrighted audio content. I don't remember if there's anything about "furry". To me, it looks like tumblr, it is a stalled platform. You'll need to bring people from other socials to that platform if that's what is gonna be your main website. Newgrounds surely looks more "welcomy" than twitter.

>>7174599
Last time I checked there was plenty of people posting single artworks, so even if I don't animate I think I could post there, y'know what? What the hell maybe I'll post there

>>7174600
>Last time I checked there was plenty of people posting single artworks
Yeah, I know. Though I usually go to the animation content, cause I know that what's being produced there. You'll have to compete with that... OR, you could link up with animators seeking artists there. That could be a good plan of action.
I would certainly prefer newgrounds over deviantart for sure. Good luck anon.

>>7174573
Only if you been there since day 1. You will get little to no traction if you were post there.

>>7174612
Why? You would think that OGs would be all over any new artists bringing fresh content, especially if it is animation.

>>7174573
newgrounds is a fucking joke now, too many tiktok/twitter retards have polluted the site

>>7174644
And how does that changes the site? Isn't better to have a wider audience? Newgrounds in particular should welcome new viewers since it's becoming a forgotten corner in the internet.

newgrounds has some kind of approval process your account has to get or else your art won’t show up in the main sections. it’s a gay circlejerk so you need to know someone already

>>7174698
>ewgrounds has some kind of approval process
That's actually a good thing though..

>>7174698
ive seen alot of trash getting on the approved page these past 2 years. most likely a deluge of FNF fanart and that circus fotm show. the majority of rated art is fanart cancer, but so is xitter

>>7174620
most of the ogs either quit, left new grounds to pursue greater heights, or distance/cut ties with newgrounds. It's mostly filled with kids that are only there because of fnf. You're better off posting somewhere else.

>>7174573
I've been slowly building an audience there as a beg, I don't even do fanart, furries, anime or anything lewd, ppl legit just enjoy my oc schizo stuff it's incredible. I couldn't even imagine doing that on twitter or Instagram. If your art has soul people will notice on that site, I mean that's sort of what it's all about.

Get good lol, you don't need to know anyone your art just needs to not look like a turd.

>>7174844
>your art just needs to not look like a turd
definitively there's more than "that" when creating anything.
Nice dubs though

>>7174844
anon, your 100 followers on newgrounds means nothing

>>7174612
Not true. If your artwork is good there is a high chance to be frontpaged. It's manually picked and while I don't upload often, a quarter to a third of my posts get pinned. I only post art without further interaction and get decent interaction. I mainly use it for being a multimedia gallery though, I don't really care for the numbers

>>7174573
Is your question answered yet?

>>7174573
>but I get the impression that it's only worth using if you already have a big following, thoughts?
The same could be said for any social site. If you like the look of Newgrounds, go for it, or don't. If you're only using a site to become e-famous, don't bother posting anywhere.

>>7174698
thats just to make sure the 10,000 unapproved MS paint drawings of futa inflation don't flood the site. Unfortunately, a few people slipping through the crack have kinda brought all the shit in, and its polluted things quite a bit. They can be revoked, but they need to piss someone off enough to do it.

Its a good system but nothings perfect, if you're not dogshit expect a few days before someone with taste goes through the portal and finds your stuff. You need a minimum of 5 pieces to be scouted, though.

>>7174573
everyone wants newgrounds to become popular but it just wont dude
give it up already

i wish newgrounds would get polpular caus it looks ~aesthetic~ asf uwu


How does this nose work?

She's facing slightly left or forward, but her nose is pointing right (">" shape) and yet it's left of centre on her face. This is by a serialized mangaka.

because you're wrong in your observation

I think the impression they're trying to get off is that this weird nerdy girl has a specific shape for the bridge of her nose because she's not your average usual perfectly cute anime girl and instead she's some NEET ugly girl who has essentially a very defined incredibly wide, oddly shaped nose.

Is this actually the case? Probably not, but I'd love to believe. I don't actually know who this character is but "shut-in weirdo" is the vibe I'm getting.

>>7174588
Wtf take a break from the internet

>>7174592
Anon, I think you're just not seeing my vision.

>>7174538
>How does this nose work?
It doesn't.

>>7174538
The corner of the ">" shape is not meant to be taken as the tip of her nose: the former is actually intended to represent the sharp upturn of her lower nasal dorsum.

Ironically, this nose is still pretty much consistent with Saeki's usual stylization (pic related). However, in this instance, he messed up by not adding the line of the columella as he normally does, an oversight which, coupled with the absence of any indication of the character's right nasal wing, explains why this nose depictii. ended up looking so weird and unintuitive.

>>7175031
I meant to write "depiction" in the last line, I really don't know what happened there.

You have to understand that anime is just another visual language, it has its rules and noses like the photo you show live in them. Is the artist logic based on reality? Yes.
Are you going to break down each line and streak? No.

Learn how to draw a realistic human nose and then create a new abstraction.

>>7174538
it still looks like it points right while the rest of the face points left...

Through trial and error and a homogeneous aesthetic sense the Japanese have identified certain objectively 'pleasant patterns' that cannot be explained by traditional Western rules. Ask any disciple of the great Renaissance masters and they will laugh at those drawings, but these 'nonsense' are organically conquering the West and not the pedantry of Michelangelo and his friends...

The moral is: there are secret 'psychological rules' prior to mere naturalistic imitation, whoever formally studies them will have great power in their hands.

>>7175109
>Cute fictional girls
This mogs everything. The westranny destroyer. It's mere existence show how filthy wesjuden is

That's just stylisation. You have freedom what to show.


I consistently pump out polished turds and quality art at the same time. There's no telling if a piece is gonna turn out good or shit. I don't fucking understand.

>>7174627
Starting with this one, it's pretty good right?

>>7174633
This was the picture I drew before. Granted its not the *worst* thing in the world but it's much less appealing. Every time I draw something it's like throwing spaghetti at a wall.

>>7174633
>>7174637
It's because you draw FOTM soulless slop. You have no voice of your own. You are a copy-paste of a human being. Someone could take your place, and no one would notice. How can you post this and pretend you don't see the problems? Do you really lack self awareness?
You're an automaton that runs on cum. I pity you. You make me sick

>>7174685
Flavor of the seven months more like. I have more passion for my waifu Ragatha than you have in your entire being, get fucked.

>>7174637
The first one has a better sense of perspective than this one, that alone already makes it more interesting

>>7174728
I could see that now. When I redraw it I think I'll try to focus a bit more on incorporating some neat perspective.

>>7174736
It's clearly a trowel fucking a rake, god do the WORK anon! Not everyone's gonna spell it out for you!

>>7174724
Being passionate about trite garbage is nothing to be proud of.

>>7174755
>Only MY tastes are good OKAY?! ONLY MINE!!!

>>7174633
>It's pretty good, right?
It's not good

>>7174787
Say why or forever hold your pee.

>>7174755
your taste is garbage and you wonder why you can't build an audience

>>7174633
>>7174637
looks the same to me lol

>>7174633
>>7174637
This is based. Don't stop, King.

>>7174797
Aww did you link the wrong message?

>>7174797
Imagine ASOOMING this hard. I post once every two months on 4chan and even then I still get recognized.

>>7174820
I will never stop, Ragatha is too cute and weirdly underrated.

>>7174831
i never seen this shit before in my life. but then again i dont go on coomee threads

>>7174864
If you're not into niche cartoon porn on 4chan then no shit sherlock.

>>7174822
nope directed at you, retard. Your "ideas" will never take you far

>>7174882
This is the message you linked.


Do you sometimes get the feeling that you got into art way too late?<br>I'm not talking about your age, but "current year" bullshit and future prospects.

>>7174622
Not into art, I have been drawing since 2009, but I feel that way when it comes to commissions, I started when AI already nuked half of the landscape.

>>7174622
If you don't love drawing, than avoid art as a job at all cost. It's death.
Take handwriting for example, before computer, every person who finished their elementary education have clean and neat handwriting. People obsessed with beautiful handwritten letters. Nowadays, it's all typing on smartphone, zoomers will curse you if you tell them to spend 1 day of their life to improve their handwriting.
Cheap and fast always win over beauty and art.
Art as a job is death, some probably will survive by street performances or lucky enough to be a small content creator on YouTube, Tiktok,...
You know it's the truth, the reality.
Quit art if you only want money. Even as a pastime job, it's not worth your time.
Learn to weld, trade, plumbing,... etc Mike Rowe was right.

It's never too late to join the growing revolution against our AI techno overlords.

>>7174622
You can think that way about everything. I graduated from high school at 20. Should I have finished soomer? Yeah. Can I go back and change it? No. It is what it is.
Don't mull over the past, focus on what you're going to do NOW to get the future you want.

>>7174646
> Mike Rowe the grifter
Nah, fuck him.

>>7174823
Even normies are getting sick of your shit.

>>7174923
take your head out of the sand

>>7174622
>"current year" bullshit
Like with the possibility of being canceled and shit? Honestly, if you create edgy work and get upset at people getting upset, you're a pussy and should have never been making that kind of work in the first place.
The point of 'boundary pushing work' or 'edgy work' is to push norms and ruffle some feathers, but was it really either of those when people were at their most accepting and tolerant?
If you're shying away from making the kind of art, or telling the kind of stories, or making the kind of jokes you want because of 'being canceled', then you are nothing like the people you are trying to emulate, and are at best a shallow imitation.

If you're just talking about AI shit - honestly I don't see the big deal.
 From what I've read, people who live off commissions have seen no loss in their clientele. There are some job losses from bigger companies, but it's hard to know if that is actually AI, or if that's just corporate idiocy. It was always an extremely competitive industry anyway.
Ultimately, the worst thing about AI is the annoying AI apostles such as >>7174823 who seem to do nothing but find threads to preach in and linger like bad farts, and those who have gone doomer mode but don't really understand what it is people do in the industry and why it isn't simply 'making pretty pictures' such as >>7174646.

So relax, it ain't all bad.

>>7174622
There is still a big market for artists—both 2D and 3D. You just need some marketing skills, the ability to create things that AI can’t easily replicate, and a supportive community to champion your work, remember, building a strong community around your art can make a significant difference in your success

>>7175519
>Like with the possibility of being canceled and shit? Honestly, if you create edgy work and get upset at people getting upset, you're a pussy and should have never been making that kind of work in the first place.
The point of 'boundary pushing work' or 'edgy work' is to push norms and ruffle some feathers, but was it really either of those when people were at their most accepting and tolerant?
If you're shying away from making the kind of art, or telling the kind of stories, or making the kind of jokes you want because of 'being canceled', then you are nothing like the people you are trying to emulate, and are at best a shallow imitation.

I understand your point, but you have to understand that in the current fandom climate, artists literally risk getting doxxed over this shit.

Do people forgot what happened to the creator of the coffin of andy and leyley?
She was doxxed and ended up selling her game. Although she is still making it, i doubt she is getting any money from HER OWN PROJECT anymore.

Accept it or not, the current audiences are bunch of screaming, entitled, whiny pissbabies. these chronically online losers WILL try to doxx and ruin your life if you try to write anything darker than bluey.

Which makes me wonder, is the risk even worth it?

>>7174622
No. On the contrary, these times are the best in history, never before will you be able to have so many opportunities and so easy to be an artist from here to like 50 years in he future, easily.

>>7175557
>Do people forgot what happened to the creator of the coffin of andy and leyley?
I think that situation is slightly different, because it was a bad end for a horror game, from what I've heard anyway. Who woulda' thought there'd be bad people with bad morals in a horror game?
The fact that the audience cried about it only strengthens my opinion that these retards should be pushed against, and MORE controversial stuff should be made. Why'd they buy horror if they can't take even the lamest of taboo subjects?

>Which makes me wonder, is the risk even worth it?
And that's a reasonable question to ask, but do you think it was any easier in the 70's? 60's? 50's? and so forth.
Comedians would literally be arrested on stage, while shocked and insulted crowds would jeer. Porn was something that would get you blacklisted... Are things really worse?
Audiences have become pussies, sure, but so have the creators.
If you think that the more puritan modern audience is annoying, that's fine, but you hardly have right to complain about it by giving in to them and thus empowering them.

>>7175519
>who seem to do nothing but find threads to preach in and linger like bad farts
nope, I develope models and tools for utilizing AI. it's fun to make fun of artists that don't see what is coming. coros depend on AI but without much experience in both art and AI tooling, they will only return the ai sloppa you are used to seeing since it's so oversaturated (there are many people that refuse to lean anything further than installing and prompt). what can happen is artists banding together to make their own small studios. something around 3-5 people all speccing into 2d, 3d, and AI art pumping out quality works at blazing speeds. This solves the woes with unionizing in studios by making these groups their own boss either to work contracts, commissions or making their own indie works. Trying to make a career alone and under someone else's terms isn't working for the majority of artists here. production automation is meant to empower you, not replace you so maybe stew on that for a while

>>7174917
>Mike Rowe the grifter

Ty anon i had no clue. But! through some light gewgling, i found something relevant so enjoy:
>>7174646

>Learn to weld, trade, plumbing,... etc Mike Rowe was right.

"Skilled tradespeople are very valuable--we need far more of them in our society. But most people who don't go to college also can't become successful skilled tradespeople because it requires A LOT of hard work and a decent amount of luck.

The hard work is self-explanatory. But luck plays a big role. To succeed at most skilled trades you need:
(1) to be healthy enough to do a job with a lot of movement and physical labor;
(2) to not suffer a career-ending injury (unfortunately, these injuries are very common--as compared to white collar workers, skilled tradespeople must pay much higher rates for disability insurance, if they can qualify at all, because insurance companies assess them to be much higher risks);
(3) to not have the expensive collection of tools necessary to your livelihood stolen or rendered unusable;
(4) to find experienced and ethical skilled tradespeople from whom to learn; and
(5) to find hardworking and ethical apprentices/employees with whom to work.

A lot can go wrong. E.g., a hand, back, or knee injury can end a career. The reason to go to college is that playing the odds, you stand a better chance at building a comfortable life when your work depends on your brain rather than your body (assuming you don't drown yourself in debt on the way)."

>>7175629
>If you think that the more puritan modern audience is annoying, that's fine, but you hardly have right to complain about it by giving in to them and thus empowering them.

You're right, but getting doxxed is a scary thing. And it's not like you can get your info deleted off the internet once it's out there.

>>7174622
Kinda but not really
>Got into art at age of 16
>Now past mid 20's and managed to get way further than I ever thought I would
>Mellowed out of the 'I must get good at art' into 'Oh wow I wonder what I could do with these brushes' texture! Cant wait to try it out' phase
Overall, yeah I managed to get enjoyment and also money out of it.

>>7175697
didn't read, nice 3D optical illusion

>>7175631
Amazing to see. This anon has glimpsed the future and is literally throwing the gameplan for riches in front of a board that spends all day crying and whining about its prospects. Do you want to know what making money looks like five, ten, fifteen years ahead of time? It's this guy right here. Many will see but few will thank him

t. /biz/

>>7174622
I was super early. But did not attempt to strike iron while it was hot. Too timid, marketing myself felt horrible.

>>7176645
There is this story of a woman who managed to blurry her trace so hard we are not even sure if she exists, there are also pages that allow you to delete all sorts of data from programs and shit.
Its very roundabout, but it IS possible.

>>7174622
I do but only because I waited for my friend to get good at art so we can create a webtoon together instead of learning to draw myself.
He went to an art bootcamp for months and I got on his level by watching youtube timelapses...

>>7175557
>what happened to the creator of the coffin of andy and leyley
>is the risk even worth it?
She became a millionaire off her shitty game made in RPG Maker then she sold said game and made even more money.
She's still working in the game so I'm pretty sure that it's worth it, specially if you live in a 3rd world country like me.
Gimme her millions of dolars and I'll never work in my life again.


I'm not a furry, but I really like fox anthros and my OC is a fox anthro, so I want to represent myself as him without being viewed as a furry or attracting furries<br>How do I achieve this?

>>7174682
Mozilla Firefox did it. Do the same.

>>7174682
Don't be horny.
It seems difficult to the point of being impossible, but it really is the foundation. Don't be horny and draw more than one thing.

>>7174682
>my OC is a fox anthro

its too late for you m8

>>7174682
>How do I achieve this?
Unironically by not giving a shit and play it off as a joke whenever it's brought up.
If you act defensive whenever someone mentions you're a furry for using a furry sona, people will get the idea that you are an unironic furry. If you play it off as a joke and dont think much of it, people will not think much of it, it's that simple.
>t. Has a cat sona and was only called a furry once as a joke

>>7174682
pyw and we'll let you know which parts of it need to be shaped differently

>>7174783
this chart was always inaccurate. 4 is just fuckin loony toons. 1 is obviously monstergirls. 2 and 3 are definative furshit. someone needs to fix this thing

>>7174783
>>7174871
Number three is spot on.

>>7174903
So that's what it was this whole time, huh...

>>7174682
just dont interact with the fanbase. normies will assume youre a furry but honestly who fucking cares.

>>7174682
Say your inspiration is Robin Hood and other older media involving anthros, also it helps if your style doesn't look like the overly cutesy fursuit with the fluoride stare type. If people still give you the lol furry thing, accept that that will happen no matter what. You know, jap and korean artists draw anthro characters that do not give horny vibes, or at least not the creepy kind, take inspiration from those

>>7174682
stop being afraid of what you really are, dummy

>>7174682
Same dude. Im not a furry i just fap to them and have a fursona and a fursuit in the works. Just for lols though

>>7174682
>How cute, he thinks he's 12
Ban him.

>>7174682
Stop being a pussy. If you're that insecure, you're already a loser so it doesn't matter what you're perceived as.

>>7174682
Absolutely impossible unless you time travel back to before Disney was funded

Sorry faggot, deal with it.

>>7174871
>It looney tunes therefor it's not degenerate
massive cope

>>7178122
you talking shit about loony toons?

If the tale is worthy of reading, it will be appreciated despite who acts within it.


The true reason a lot of you niggas are unironically NGMI

is because you're too outcome-focused. The real reason people who started drawing when they were really young have a big advantage over people who start later in life is because nobody has an "outcome" they're hyper-focused on when they start drawing. Sure they might think something like "I wanna be a cartoonist" or "I wanna make my own comic/manga"; but this is like a boy who enjoys learning about the weather saying "I wanna be a meteorologist." He set the goal only because he wanted to tread down the path. A lot of you guys only tread down the path because you want the goal, which is why drawing is so grueling for you because you despise the grind - you just wanna get to the part where you get to draw NSFW fan art of your favorite waifu and hate that it's taking forever for you to get there.

You gotta learn to appreciate the process itself or else you're gonna burn out before you get anywhere. If you don't like drawing, the chances of you becoming a good artist are gonna be really, REALLY low no matter how badly you want it.

>>7174689
yes, and that's also how you achieve the much coveted SOUL in your works

>>7174689
Post work faggot
We hear this same shit over and over.
The reason artists here are outcome focused is because they're in their mid to late 20s. This is when the clock starts ticking, your family will start resenting you if you have nothing to show for whatever it is youre doing. Most people would be going into careers or getting married. Artists are mostly inept and can literally do nothing else but draw.
And even though it's unrealistic, as long as the mere possibility of an art career exists, people will chase it.
And honestly, most here will be miserable even if they got a "real job"

I've said this time and again before and it's usually met with anger or derision of some kind. Being able to sit down and draw a dumb cartoon that pleases myself is the only thing that got me through the studying, which didn't even seem that bad, because I'd do it in 3-4 day chunks and then go back to fun stuff. Chunky gains.
I see anons talk about how relentlessly unrewarding art and drawing are...and it's really not supposed to be like that. First it's fun, then you're mad because you can't do something, then you're motivated to do better (study), then you're bored with study, then it's back to fun again. In chunks. That rhythm is critical for maintaining interest and realistically I was never (am never) thinking more than a week ahead in terms of goals or projects.
It's asinine to flagellate yourself in weeks of soul-crushing grind without getting even a sugar-cube of dopamine out of it. You're not getting there overnight anyway so have some fun.

>>7174702
Get a job and learn to draw on the side then, faggot. Pursuing a passion is no excuse for not being able to support yourself as an adult. Their are niggas who draw, make music, make videos, stream, etc. all on the side while working full-time jobs. These bums who wanna be artists can do the same until they can make the transition.

The vast majority of starving artists deserve to starve.

>>7174689
I was about to say that OP was a mega faggot, but...
There's some truth in there. I've seen anons posting shit here, the ones that consistently post their work, they don't give a fuck about what anyone would say, they shit on crabs and whoever dares to crit them. So, they really don't care about the "result". They just post their shit regardless, like autistic psychos, they don't care about the consequences of their artistic actions. They just brute-force grinding forward, until they just inadvertently learn how to draw at a decent enough level, and one day, they just go away.

>>7174711
No one has ever made it by working full time
Part time sure
I dare you to name an artist that made it while working 40 to 60 hours a week

>>7174711
It's less about money and more about feeling accomplished
I work full time but my art is still godawful and I feel worthless because of it

>>7174689
>Journeyfags still not posting work

>>7174702
most people here and everywhere lack work ethic. getting paid to do art isnt any easier than working a real job. the willingness to do the work, whether to improve your skill, or to pay the bills, should be lesson 1.

>>7174726
Its not about it being "easier", it's the fact that people paying for your art makes your art valuable

>>7174735
the art that I draw for myself is more valuable than the stuff I shit out for commissions. just cause some idiot bought it doesnt mean I worked harder on it

>>7174862
This, a sketch I spend my heart doing on an afternoon has more meaning than some random high quality gacha shit someone paid me to do.

>>7174862
Those are some strong and powerful words, anon

>>7174881
Understand that the same people who want you "to just keep drawing" are fucking retarded crabs, sadistically trapping other eternal begs into thinking "they just have to draw for the lulz" and that's the key of everything, effectively wasting their times that could be properly spent doing ANYTHING fucking else

>>7174881
Why should I post my stuff? Give me a good reason to do that.
I already know my shit is shit, I dont need a literal who faggot to spell it for me, I know that and Im happy with it, so I just keep on doing it.

>>7174881
i mean, its not really a pyw thread

>>7174893
You will feel better. Why do you think people spend fortunes on shrinks? They need to vent their frustrations, they need a friend to listen to them. Do You know how hard is to come up with a "friend" in this age and time? Academic Research comes to the conclusion that in average we have one real friend in our whole life, and we hardly keep in touch with that one friend. That's why people must pay to have that friend who listen to them periodically.
Here we are to listen to your frustrations, and it's free. Unload that heavy load on your back, you will feel better and more free. you may get motivated again even.

>>7174715
pikat before she lost her programming job 3 months ago

>>7174910
Her department got shutdown, so basically yeah.

>>7174907
She has been drawing for around 10 years.

>>7175435
and? You think drawing has a time limit or something? Sounds like more excuses to not try if anything.


Resources for learning to paint?<br>I don’t give a shit about color theory right now, I just need to learn how to make images with blobs of value instead of lines.

>>7174722
Try this guy, Nathan is one of the best when working with color and values https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYD<wbr>Z1aGq0Eg

>>7174765
> soo did I ever tell you about this time when I worked on PRINCE OF MFCKING EGYPT

good painter tho

>>7174722
>images with blobs
images with boobs?

>>7174722
i know a tranny when i see one

>>7175390
> I like that meat, and I'd like some sauce with it
> so I'm playing reverse psychology on my niggers

>>7174722
my hitsuji folder grows... thank u op...


How long did it take (you) to start seeing some improvement? I started drawing seriously this year and only just now, today, have I understood how important an understanding of the human skeleton is for the figure. My wrists, knees, and ankles look so much better now that I've studied the skeleton in full. But I'm still lacking in many ways...

Not able to draw that often either due to work wiping me out. Weekends are good, but weekdays...I get in a few 1-2 minute figures (maybe 20) then it's over.

>>7174841
It was a matter of understanding not time. I went years stagnating and then in a few weeks I would study something that I'd been putting off and see massive improvement. That happened for a while until I realised that I could only improve by tackling exactly the things I was avoiding. Aside from that, I would say the best thing you can do is develop a process and create resources for yourself that will help your process. I have notes that I made myself about style, anatomy, aesthetics, rendering and I have a huge and highly organized visual library. All of these things make it easy for me to take an idea to completion and achieve consistently decent results.

>>7174841
usually 200-400 drawings in I can see improvement

>>7174841
I was 12 when I realized that there is a possibility for me to improve my bad art. I started drawing a lot and I saw improvement right away because I was delusional. Improvement can take a varying amount of time depending on what you're doing and how. In my experience it's varied from 1 month to 1 year to achieve improvement that can be noticed. Naturally if you study more in a given period of time you're going to improve at a higher speed. If you don't draw that much your art isn't going to have much opportunity to improve. Good luck

Also i'd like the saurce for the pic thanks

>>7174841
 i used to see improvement within a few months but now i dont really see it until 2 years have gone by.

>>7174841
>ruins the picture with his signature

I found a secret way of practicing that lets me see improvement in one day.

Actually, it's not a secret. You fuckers just don't listen to me.

>>7175694
i figured it out too. i trace or draw construction on top of the reference then hide the reference and try to complete the drawing.
then i unhide reference and fix whatever i messed up.

Ive been drawing my whole life for fun atleast most days, or atleast once a week, but I only started doing legit studies about 4 years ago.

it took me 4 years to really look at something I made and think "this looks significantly better than what I could make a year ago"

you can draw everyday, just do scrambled pointless lines for 5 minutes whenever you can.

most of my drawings ever are just that. I'm drawing all the time, studying some of the time.

If I stacked all my drawings since I was a kid, it would probably be towering over me.

yet, 90% of everything I have drawn is just crap because it's fun to just play around with scribbles.

study=/=play

you have to play to study, and you have to study to play.

>>7174841
>How long did it take (you) to start seeing some improvement?
Years. Literal years.

>>7174841
It takes about 10 years of consistent practice of at least 4 hours every day to become somewhat good. It's why all young professionals have been drawing since childhood.

>>7174841
well i started drawing when i was 17, now im 23, for the first 3 years everything was a mess, i just drew with out thinking to much. Now that i know what i am doing, i study specific things and i can see improvement in a couple of days (like 15h of work). i feel like you need to think differently, not only in ideas but in the most literal sense. its slow for me in that case.

>>7174841
when i was seriously studying for entrance exams at my uni
around a week and a half
tbf my 9-5 was basically drawing every day and it was mostly polishing technical stuff, shadows, construction etc
i already had a decent base, since i was drawing since early childhood

man i basically didnt pick up a pencil after first 2 years at uni, didnt need drawing anymore
its been almost 8 years since

>>7174841
Guess it depends on how you define 'some improvement'. I started drawing a bit over a month ago, and so far I've yet to have a day where I wouldn't figure something out, or make some improvements. Of course it still looks like a child's work, but I sure enjoy moving forward, two trash results are making me happy as long as latest one is even slightly less trash than the other.

Scared of the day it finally ends, can't ride the wave all my life, eventually I'll be required to grasp more complex concepts that need more time, or figure out things that I didn't got to figure out naturally even since I started.


Does no one here even try to get into art careers anymore? It feels like even thinking about doing it will just get anons upset. It feels like even trying to become industry level good is looked down on
>Inb4: it's unrealistic
So is the American dream in general at this point

>>7174731
I draw as a hobby so for me it's not really something I can advise on but I wouldn't look down on anyone trying to build up and polish a portfolio, the problem is this place is not the most productive spot to do this lol I would recommend looking at people who you admire in the job you want and look at their work and journey, and look at the people that inspired your inspirations. Build up the skillset required and also look at the industry standard. Even if you bomb a job interview you can still ask them at the end "What could I work on to try again for this position next time?"

Generally they'll point you in the direction of what they require.

>>7174731
>Does no one here even try to get into art careers anymore?
Personally I don't even care about the industry, art or not, I'd rather keep being my own boss.

Getting "industry level good" and "getting in the industry" are different things. You're not going to believe me, and I'm not going to pmw, but I'm good enough to do work in some fields. The issue is the value proposition.
The vast majority of art jobs are self-evidently shitty - low-paid, repetitive, uncreative, volatile, unfulfilling all around. So you're working peanuts to do something you like, in a way you hate, to help materialize someone else's vision. It's insane to me most artists consider this worthwhile in their identity formation, let alone brag-worthy.
Of course there are guys like James Jean and Jamie Hewlett, but getting to that level requires a monstrous level of skill, connections, AND luck that you probably don't have. Realistically you're going be the nigga doing the background assets in a gacha game, tweening the key frames, or pandering to cumbrains on social media. Why would you want any of this? No one's ever acceptably explained it to me.

>>7174785
This anon is right. I've been offered work doing background layout for comics. I was offered to make 3 layouts which would be painted over by the colorist for the premium price of...

210 dollars. Each one would take approx 12 hours to draw since they wanted multiple shots etc in case they wanted to change their mind. So it was actually about 12 drawings

Making 6 dollars an hour ain't it man. I'm more comfortable with my shitty fed job.

>>7174731
It's unironically ai pajeet demoralization

>>7174731
Honestly more and more I'm starting to regret picking a career related to art. Animation in my case. Specially with the whole ai shitshow. But even before ai the animation industry was already treating its workers pretty horribly with shit pay. And doing funky things like cartoon creators or writers not getting residuals just because the show is animated. So a shitty writer for a live action show that nobody watches or even a voice actor could be making twice as much as the creator of a long running cartoon. Or Netflix changing the term "seasons" to "parts" so that way no worker can ask for a raise for the duration of the show. So if you "make it" you will be getting fucked in the ass.
I already invested way too much into this shit to quit now and I know that if I don't even try I'll never forgive myself. But sometimes I just want to throw it all away do a shitty programing course like all my friends and do that since it pays well in my third world hell hole. And just draw as a hobby

>>7175461
Programming is next on the ai chopping block tbf

>>7174731
Fuck that shit. Why would I do that when I could make the same money doing commissions? No shitty boss breathing down my neck, I can do what I want, AND I will never be overworked against my will. I fucking hate employers especially for the art industry. They'll use you and throw you away like a used tampon if you aren't burning yourself out every single fucking day.

>>7174731
I want to get into the industry but I just can't see a viable avenue into it kinda makes it hard to make a concrete plan to get into it

>>7174785
This. Especially with the fact that if you're the same amount of dedicated and skilled enough to be in that position you could be making a boatload off of commissions. All you need to do is post regularly enough to gain a suitable following (while obviously being GOOD at your craft) and you'll get commissions left and right. Ffs I have 500 followers and even I get random commission requests even though I never said I was open to them. Art ""careers"" are a fucking joke unless you do it yourself or ACTUALLY make the company you work for give you what you truly deserve.

I'm just here to learn how to draw hmofa for myself. I don't give a shit about selling it to people. If I can then yay for extra pocket money. If not then who cares.

>>7177236
>is a replaceable white collar wagecuck

>>7174785
James Jean makes me feel like a fucking retard.

>>7174731
Art is the first thing to go when things go to shit, we're seeing that right now. That's why I'm not bothering

>>7177574
I remember an art history course I took that showed a decline in art meant a decline in culture using examples from Greek and Rome before things got bad for them.

>>7174785
>Why would you want any of this? No one's ever acceptably explained it to me.
Status and ego substitution + delusions.

Most people believe others will automatically respect and worship them if they mention they worked on projects/games or other type of consumer media or by having a big following and that more possibilities will magically open up to them and they will have their big break and become millionaires after their second attempt and then they won at life and don't need to do anything anymore.
Of course don't forget that most young people for the most part believe that they're in their own movie and are destined to "win at life".

Having bigger number on social media is now attached to an illusion of quality and trustworthiness, hence why everyone wants them and tries to reach it by all means.
You can see how much personal value those people put in defending that system when you mention that social media numbers are indeed meaningless numbers and that their following are bots and children or obtained in less than honest/organic ways.
They will accuse you of being jealous; which is completely unreasonable, since why would anyone be envious of something that has no real value, unless they didn't know or understood the underlying systems and placed some sort of non-existent value on that, as the accusers mostly do? This reaction is a defense mechanism because it threatens their "potential future social status they will totally obtain".

In the end, most who meme about the industry or clout are genuinely kids, immature people or other type of individuals who would die if you left them to their own devices for a couple hours.
>It's insane to me most artists consider this worthwhile in their identity formation, let alone brag-worthy.
That's all they have, or possibly would.
You should realize that the average person is extremely miserable, low IQ and would kill their own parents for e-validation from strangers they can project their own feelings unto.

>10K followers on Artstation
>Interviewed for tripple A studio jobs pre-pandemic.
>Worked on projects as Concecpt Artist
All opportunities for white men dried up in 2020.
6% of new hires in USA last year were white in the industry.

My hometown has been going into austerity for a decade, this was a way out of low income part time jobs while working from home. (Northern Europe).

Games industry layoffs, Estimated Total in 2024: 10,100.
Pixar laid off 15%, Disney stock is crashing.

I'm going to be very happy with a nice family and a dog in the future,
there's no industry left to join.

i’m less familiar with the pipelines for working virtually, but it takes immense work to break into any field. i’ve been doing self pub comics and prints for the past 2 years while working for a local design/print press. my most successful peers from uni continued with trad studio art exhibitions & make healthy commission on the side, or got grants for public works due to their portfolio, or joined large projects/committees. i wasn’t in love with being a gallery artist (plus my work is niche) so i haven’t pursued further exhibitions. anyway, you can’t be ‘discovered’ if you are off the radar stealthing for a field. i attended a comic jam last year which got me networked with the organizers of my regional comic expo— in turn they’ve reached out for work (both for the expo & people contacting the org seeking artists) and a couple of my pieces got published in a couple of their collections recently. i see myself as a cartoonist, but things have taken a turn recently because i got scouted for a tattoo apprenticeship for my comic portfolio. you really have to seek out the right opportunities, most aren’t just listed jobs

>>7174731
It's filled with young people. The industry. Studios. Should be hiring 35 plus individuals. Mature enough to understand the importance of failure.

Personally. I've never tried. Don't plan on it either. There a heavy trend of celebrating young individuals. It's shallow.

I believe the older generations. Whom have suffered long should be working in the creative industry or what ever the hell it is. Rest them.


i got hit by a car as a pedestrian going 55 mph

boxman

guis i m ok meow but i the strange beauty of life is that im actually left hand dominant. all this time all my art….was created using my lesser hand because i grinded too hard. dont grind yourself to death. all because we need kids to write a certain way that causes them anguish. amen.

>>7174952
hahaja ty anon this is the snarky cheese i was missing

Anonymous

>>7174953
medical technology is. beautiful. imagine in the 1900s they gave you a bed and some water and said if you live you live bro

>>7174960
You have touched upon something I find profoundly beautiful my friend

>>7174945
I wish you speedy recovery anon, be careful next time.

boxman

>>7174960
damn, i agree.

>>7175267
woah
>>7175310
ty

i just hope something beautiful comes of all this, thats what im praying for.

Anonymous

>>7174945
Unfortunately the car wasn't going fast enough if you're still alive enough to post this garbage.

>>7174953
my prayers are with you boxman
your art always makes me smile

boxman

not original work but just a ffun pape i made


Anonymous

Funnily, she became one of the most productive manga artists around, drawing 4 series simultaneously.

>>7175597
Why would the man be so shocked if he knew that as a kid he had access to a time machine?

>>7175132
where is the drawing in this picture? Those are postured photos.

>>7175132
 I feel like this is an ADHD thing. It's about the challenge of it all.

>>7177862
Also, it's late at night when it's much more quiet.


What happens if I make a low poly render then decide to trace it?

Will someone notice it?

>>7175409
Don't do it, it creates mustard gas

>>7175409
Shit ton of people trace over models. Tracing only becomes a problem when it's super obvious you copied someone else's drawing

To save time or because you can't draw it without tracing?


/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners General

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/<wbr>1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGq<wbr>wSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpH<wbr>w6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwi<wbr>ci/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77<wbr>TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

Previous thread >>7172402

>>7175474
Int beg means Internet beggars?
Sorry I'm new here.
Is this like the Reddit to post your Instagram account?

I’m still not drawing because you told<br>me I am NGMI.

>>7175492
It's that a Naruto reference?
Like shinigami?
Sorry I'm new here and I don't know the lingo

>>7175496
Fucking tourists. Go back to /pol/

>>7175498
It's pol another of your lingo words?
What does this mean Anon, I'm new here

>>7175505
I'm new here I don't know what that means
It's some sort of stew made of tofu?
I'm not Asian so I don't eat tofu

It's even more pathetic when you realize that this is the same kissless virgin that plays the howie

>>7175511
Is this character a recurring one on this board?
Sorry I'm new here

Just imagination practice today. I will try and do a larger piece soon to practice what I've been grinding lately

>>7175499
these look nice anon

How's my rendering? Any recommended exercises other than master studies? Also I feel like copying and rendering still life is easier than doing living beings, is that normal or am I an schizo?

>>7175545
Damn, that's true. That's the first study I did without color picking, so I guess it's just a matter of practice.

And a second one. Listened to Weezer while drawing really hope the Weezer came through

>>7175551
Looks like something a middle school girl would post on deviantart in 2004. A lot of soul

>>7175547
>>7175551
Why not take a screenshot instead of taking picture of the screen?

>>7175547
>>7175551
Windows logo key + Shift + S
Thank me later.

>>7175547
>>7175551
>File>Export>PNG
thank me later

Finished that OC I sketched up a couple of threads ago

>>7175489
>Int beg means Internet beggars?
not it means "Intermediate" + "Beginner" artists. Earlier there were /beg/ and /int/ thread separately but /ic/ simply could not agree where the difference is between the two so they just pulled the two categories into one.

>Is this like the Reddit to post your Instagram account?
No,there is the "Self-Promo Thread" for that
>>7160486

How do people keep replying to the most obvious bait possible is beyond my comprehension.<br>Have a random ref

Finally after a few awful days where my sleep was fucked, I finally did some anime head studies.

There are a lot of errors but I was just getting used to doing this kinda thing again after a week or two of not doing all that much. I was gonna do more but I unfortunately like usual ran out of time.

Now I just need to do more full figure drawings.

I literally copied the action pose, why the fuck does the hand still feel so long?

>>7175609
you need to learn your anatomy. The bones create a flow design that you are missing in your copy

>>7175474
>try to copy art tutorial video
>it looks like dogshit
>guy in the video says "It doesn't have to look perfect I just want you to understand the concept"
It doesn't make me less insecure but at least it makes me not want to just give up

Been making more art traditionally, pencil on paper feels very satisfying

i never realize how weird the body looks until i try to put clothes onto it

>>7175474
Perspective bros how can I improve my cars

>>7175474
My first painting and first environment art, what am I supposed to paint next?

>>7175672
you're supposed to paint grayscale geometric volumes for the next five years. sorry, don't make the rules.

>>7175474
some quick sketch figure drawings using simple yet characteristic shapes, turning poses into tubes.

>>7175607
I don't personally feel they were that great, with inaccuracies and just a general lack of polish and care with certain parts (I was rushing myself a little also).

Though that being said, are some of my better ones I feel. I'll hopefully do full body stuff again shortly and then draw something that isn't a boring study.

I swear to yakub it looks better in person

>>7175714
You have ruined my tradchad praise

>>7175604
you've noticed errors yourself, so this might be redundant (though still beneficial for another anon), but, to the extent that you afford yourself the time, double check the vertical and horizontal relationships between features/landmarks. you can also look at lines, like the vertical one of the top portrait, which give additional information. specifically, the line is more directly looking at the horizontal relationship between the farthest point of the inside of the right eyebrow (i.e., the right eyebrow from the character's perspective) and the bottom of the mouth, but within that line we can compare the placement of the nostril between the reference and the drawing too.

>>7175722
it is too fucking hard to work the values on shitty office paper

>>7175742
>shitty office paper
that's not the problem

>>7175733
Oh yeah this is super useful.

Her eyes and nose seem to be lower down lol.

Thanks regardless.

>>7175743
the paper was alright wrapping from the graphite, I can't get darker tones

and btw
fpyw fag

>>7175754
>I can't get darker tones
that's not the problem

Honk Honk
Painting isn't my forte.
I don't know what brushes to use, I don't know how to blend colors or color theory.

working on dynamic poses and shading, as well as exaggerating gesture

Hello, I would like to request in the most attentive and kind way a Redline correction and a construction diagram with cubes, rectangles or ovals. Because I don't understand anatomy. Thank you.

>>7175872
the redline is your reference image. Overlay your art on top, to see your mistakes

>>7175833
You don't know lighting either kek

>>7175652
Anon please just a single ntr drawing..

>>7175872
I don't care if it's anatomically incorrect make Shinobu's ass a tad fatter and her breasts flatter and it'll look godlike

>>7175899
idk, you can see it, theres some light

>>7175833
Opposite color of the chromatic wheel for shadows. There, you now know color theory.

I spent too many time in the ass, and I am tire to finish everything,

>>7175919
She has a nice butt, ESL-kun. Finish it after you get some rest.

>>7174225
Eh, sort of? In that they found my artwork.

Hello beg, forget hair, it is a lie. Draw noodles instead!

>>7175929
either start drawing backgrounds, multiple people interacting or start rendering. you arent experimenting or advancing. nice booba though (as usual)
>>7175859
it is hard to properly judge proportions in extreme perspective, but yours feels that torso is too short and the belt is floating mid air
>>7175856
cute loli
>>7175829
needs a little of keys to drawing and lots of figure drawing book
>>7175770
i like the clothes painting. i dont like the linework though
>>7175714
the eyes are way too asymmetrical. its kinda alright otherwise
>>7175664
you arent properly cutting the boxes in half, which ends up skewing your vehicles a lot. see
archive.org/details/PerspectiveMade<wbr>Easy/page/n123
so if you want to try hard a wheeler, start with a box, then use diagonals to find the center and then try to fit the car inside of it. next thing are ellipses, you arent tilting them properly
archive.org/details/PerspectiveMade<wbr>Easy/page/n151
basically learn more perspective. you could also do this book Robertson: How to Draw
it is basically 80% of how to draw cars (in perspective)
>>7175637
PYW
>>7175582
she has certified Bridgman hips. nice, but not sure if its coomable
>>7175556
nice
>>7175499
very cute, i kneel

Short sketch for tonight. Practice just drawing from memory.

I'm using the ms paint brush
I like it a lot, even bad drawings look ironically decent because muh "ms paint feel"
>>7175952
not my style but this is good, nice job
can you draw dynamic poses or only portraits?

>>7176006
maybe the perspective course? (his main focus isn't the human figure but he does teach a little bit of that too)
it's on the video course general, also In Sad Panta there is a compilation with some of his drawings and sketches, you can copy some of those if you want to, I like his construction method

So yea I know this is all kinds of fucked up, but I was just scribbling and then I thought, that kinda looks like a skull so I tried to turn the scribbling into a skull.

>>7175938
Hey thanks man, thats way more helpful than your first comment. Sucks that I had to fish it out of you.

>>7176022
I can do both of them but i prefer the portraits, i swear T_T

My best shot at inking. The breast we're the hardest part to render.

So drawing anime is just simplifying everything and drawing big eyes?

>>7176086
It's mainly just using cat proportions instead of human proportions

Marielx

>>7176088
This, the secret on drawing anime-like faces is using cats as base.

Anonymous

You guys are so fucking stupid, the point is to make the characters look CUTE or COOL.

Realism and cartoons are easier to draw and you can always cope with it. Can't really blame you the G-Pen is fucking cancer.

>>7176089
you can adjust the loomis method to achieve this by shortening the center line of the chin and widening the sides slightly.

le anime face with more realistic proportions

Loomis head is not a set of proportions, it is a simplified form and how to construct it. It comes with a certain, but it is just an example. Proportions could be and must be any.

>muh early 00s western artist anime comic book.

>>7176113
>>7176108
>>7176093
I am gonna (badly) use these as reference. Thanks nigger.

>>7175968
PAWELL'S IMPROVING

AYO WHERE DEM CRABS AT???

>>7176145
I never hated Pawel, but not really.
Some of his copies look worse, especially that of humans, some better. They have always been

Ia there like some fashion/hairdresser theory about what makes an aesthetic haircut I can read into?
>It needs to fit the face
What does fitting the face mean?

>>7176153
If you take your best guess of things you know you could figure it out.
You have two shapes colliding with the head and the hair style. Two shapes of the same shape like two rectangles, won't be hard on the eyes as two opposing shapes. Not to say that two opposing shapes can't create something aesthetically pleasing, just that its harder to pull off or is used as a comic effect. Square face with an circle afro is funny.

>>7176155
That's how you think of it? I thought it was more about how the hair blends into the face (hairline, fringe, sides)

>>7176124
10/10, would buy that book if I saw it at a Scholastic Book Fair.

>>7176156
well, thats another piece of the puzzle.

Does anyone have any tips for drawing broad shoulders from a profile view? I tried drawing the character on the left from a profile view and I feel like I lost all sense of volume and I can't tell why.

>>7176163
you cant have depth without depth

>>7176163
You just gotta study what the body looks like from the side. If you want to improve your art, do copies from other artists every day. Just copy their art, and you’ll pick these things up soon enough

Can anyone help me in drawing the right hand and arm. She's meant to be holding a fan.

Drawing SpongeBob is a fun way to learn perspective. Anyone have other methods they’ve enjoyed?

Is it common for artist to loathe everything they make?

>>7175474
I need to sleep on it but I can already see that the arm/bicep on the right is too long. I should have found better ref for the shoulders and where the tit muscles connect.

Anything else?

contouring and painting practice -- what can I do better with these contours?

>>7176246
Find image as in find a reference? Yes. Absolutely. If you don't know how to draw a woman holding a fan then you should be looking up reference images of women holding up fans.

I will say that it does look like you fixed up some o the major proportion and anatomy issues from your initial construction sketch, but the head and neck seem really large and I think part of that is because you're trying to have the fan mask the face. It's pretty common for beginners to mess up neck and head proportions when they have something that masks the face or neck, like a scarf.

I'd say try to redraw this fan pose but heavily reference an image online of a woman holding a fan. The current pose seems "okay" but I'm sure if you find references you can get something more dynamic as part of the draw of these traditional fans is that they allow for expression and dynamic dancing/posing. There's far more interesting poses you could have your subject doing besides just holding the fan like that.

>>7176270
na, it's draw over by nta, but text will benefit original anon anyway.

Marielx

>>7176274
Thank you, im trying my hardest to not do the same poses ive done so far.

Anonymous

>>7176240
it looks shriveled, making the tops less bumpy mountain-range-like and more round would help this

KNEEL BEFORE THE POWER OF CONSTRUCTION

KNEEL BEFORE GOD

Help please, digital brushes don't quite look and do the things I want them to do. The sticky says to lower the opacity but how do you transition between values when you go darker? the smudge tool is ass or I don't know how to use it properly

>>7176232
In periods Yeah, eventually you see your ”mistakes” as areas Where you can improve and get better. But if you always feel like that maybe try to get another perspective on why you do art and What you want out of it.

>>7176302
Start by doing studies of art that you want to emulate and breaking down your reference samples to learn how they’re constructed, you can’t sit down and construct from pure imagination if you don’t have a base of material to go off of

>wake up
>shit myself
>say gm to the gc
>draw my circles
>wipe myself off
>go back to sleep

>>7176272
Thanks for the feedback friend!

We need bettter terminology to describe perspective<br>2 point is the same as 1 point, lines converge towards the z axis you're just drawing rotated cubes instead of ones that face the viewer head-on

I really think I might just have no talent as an artist. I've been at it for years. Nothing I draw is appealing.

Draeing every day until I stop being shit #10.
Have been phoning it in.
I have gone though REIQs face workshops and I can kinda measure propoerions now.
Stilll pretty shit. Will try more today.

>>7176428
And you are still defaulting to drawing frontals.

>>7176424
The head is way too big and the hands suck.

>>7176431
I-i-its just because of the meme format I swear.
>>7176432
Will do boss.

>>7176300
>less bumpy mountain-range-like
I'm not sure what you mean by this, especially since the pepper is inherently bumpy at the top and also bumpy at the top in the reference. Can you elaborate?

>>7176436
Draw the model in a 3/4 pose. The guy on the right in picrel. That's 3/4.

I'm going to step back and draw some spheres to find the right brush before I do more studies. I want a painter brush to capture strokes instead of this airbrush thing I got going using photoshops default.

using this method
https://youtu.be/Kan39jTsTWU

I drew a fetish of mine (plump jimikos)

I'd be better if I drew more often.

>>7176490
that dude is so fucking cringe

>>7176513
Both are on premium best, one of the most bang-for-your-buck CDs ever

Will intuitive drawing help with drawing other things. Like say I draw the same trash can like 10 times can it help me draw a recycle bin stuff etc

Question for people who paint, do you use line at all or just large strokes for limbs and stuff?

tryna do a guy swangin an axe whaddaya think?

>>7176571
all your portraits are very cute, I thinkj\ you should start rendering them more

>>7175652
I've been doing trylsc copies which have been really fun thank you, but idk how to incorporate that into my own drawings

Anyone use Pinterest? I've heard some say they don't know the difference between artworks and porn. Or is just a matter of people trying to push the limits combined with reports go to bots instead of actual people for review

>>7176584
i use pinterest for ref and ive never seen porn on there at all

>>7175561
NTA but I didn't even know that shit. I've just had the snipping tool in my windows menu. Thank you babe.

>>7176642
Pretty sure this is page one in any copying from photos book. I think it's a cringe technique and should be cast aside as soon as possible.

Shift + Ctrl + Win + Alt + L<br>Is a good one.

>>7176642
>>7176656
actually, a surprising amount of Japanese and Korean teachers, high level teachers who train professionals regularly, recommend using a grid. It helps even for people who might consider themselves high /int/. It's not a crutch, but a way to train yourself to regularly look for plumb lines when you draw. Eventually, you will phase it away, but not until you're really good. Btw, a beginner using a grid will still produce beginner work. It's not cheating to use a grid. Even if you use a grid, you will not be able to produce work that looks like a professional's

>>7176642
no, but it might be a good idea to make the grid 4x4 at most so that you rely on your eyes more tho
then move onto a 2x2 and then a 1x1 (which is just framing your drawing)

>>7176642
You're already cheating by asking questions. Either do everything yourself with no help, no references, no nothing, or give up on the idea of cheating altogether.

>>7175556
This gotta be your best one yet. Composition is very clean.

>>7176571
It's cute, but those eyes are in different dimensions
>>7176567
Look for reference. Sledgehammers, HEMA, etc

Really quick sketch before work to keep my DaD streak going. I'm actually oddly proud to have my weird Makoto design as the beg/int banner for the thread. Behold all the strengths and flaws of it.
>>7176642
As long as you're not growing reliant on it, why not? Use it to help you understand things but don't allow it as a crutch.

>>7176303
Find gouache or other textured brushes to help blend the dark flat values with the brighter values. Try to get the bright and dark values down and use textured brushes to blend in between. Maybe see if you can find in between values as well if you don't want the lighting to be heavy in contrast.

For myself, I use a hard round flat brush, a textured bristle brush and very sparingly use the airbrush. The airbrush can help blend but careful because it can give things an even more digital/artificial look.

Likewise, place the lightest values and the darkest values down and find the in-betweens.

>>7176642
>>7176678
>>7176667
>>7176660
>>7176656
>>7176656
>>7176649

One time I saw a close up of the Sistine Chapel and you could see Michelangelo's grid grid lines under the fresco. It probably helps when you can just scale up the grid from your sketch on the wall.

Another example is pic related by Norman Rockwell, "Chivalry Sketch, Study for SEP Cover, 1929."

Besides, using plumb and level lines is standard, and that's really just a broken down grid at the end of the day. So grid away! Hurray!

>>7176688
>but those eyes are in different dimensions
Wrong

>>7176589
>never seen porn on there at all
well on one hand I guess their security is working but on the other hand some pins get flagged as such. I guess I get annoyed when saving pins that clearly aren't pornographic constantly gets me an email about it being deleted from my board, then appeals blah blah blah.
e.g. pic related, what did this violate?

>>7176695
i belive toriyama has used it. its a handy tool.

>>7176688
These are done off of reference. I tried to simplify it to understand the form better

>>7176757
I think what feels off is that her left eye (the eye on the right side of the drawing) is angled downward compared to her other eye. What the other anon is referring to with another dimension is that it feels like both eyes are eyes drawn at different angles. It doesn't feel like the inner corners of the eyes are parallel with each other.

>>7176778
Nope. But I used color balance layer to match the palette

Why do tracers/color pickers/ai users always get so defensive. Either admit it or just keep quiet.

>>7176758
>bare
but she's wearing a T-back

Spent the last two days trying to understand eyes, and decided I wanted to see how I'd do with a whole face. Definitely the best eyes I have ever done without tracing, and overall pretty happy with my progress.

I realized towards the end that the eyes I had drawn weren't entirely straight on, and tried to rescue it by shifting around the features a bit. Obviously didn't work that well. I can also tell the ears are a bit messed up and I don't really know how to shade with hatching, so I just ended up doing semi random lines.

Anything else to point out? Aside from it sucking.

>>7176692
I really like how you do the eyebrows.

>>7176787
It's probably because it looks much better than anything they can do on their own, and they don't want to admit that it ONLY looks that good because of tracing/etc. They might want to think it's the same as just using reference.

Can you use the Loomis method to draw anime?

>>7175968
Good Job Pawie, these dont suck as much as the usual slop you churn out. Perhaps you still still have a chance at making it. No, Im not going to PMW because /ic/ is not worthy of my progress.

>>7176835
you can't use the loomis method for shit

This sucks balls :( I don't know how to improve my rendering. It's totally impossible from imagination as well.

more practice pls help me make my poses more dynamic and my shading better and pls give more than just "learn gesture" im trying, I practice gesture drawing for 10-20 mins every day

>>7176838
Why do you say that? What method do you prefer?

>>7175948
impressive how a small change and a couple of high lights makes it a different drawing

>>7175929
masterminds think the same. kek

>>7176900
Did you not read who I was replying too?

>>7176916
yea. so it handy tool to do what?

>>7176433
Thanks but I just decided I am going to copy Spacejin's face artstyle and then horribly tried to copy it.

>>7175474
Applied some info I got from a couple videos. Ironically, because the skateboard is directly below the third vanishing point above the canvas, the lines from it are vertical as if the skateboard is drawn in 2-point. Spent a whole hour moving another vanishing point, drawing perspective ellipses, etc. just to get this result.

>>7176981
are you trying to scientifically determine how to turn yourself into a permabeg?

>>7176981
>>7176996
I think it might be easier for you to freehand the perspective for something as simplified as a skateboard. Your perspective lines up nicely but can end up being a distraction, speaking from experience.

>>7177001
>perspective
this drawing is orthographic :<

tried doing a 5 figure scene from imagination. Somehow more embarrassingly pornish than single naked girls.

>>7177015
somewhat misaligned but cool girls

>>7177010
I know, it's freehanded so the perspective won't be perfect.
Honestly you shouldn't worry about making pictures that have perfect perspective unless you're drawing modern buildings, in which case you should probably use a ruler or line pen

>>7177021
it is definitional crabbing. If he want to learn something about perspective let him learn somthing about it
orthographic mean not imperfect but lack of any, zero point

Hello beg, today i call it disaster. this topic and the uncertain forms are just killing me. it also doesnt help my imagination in term of haircuts is akin to goldfish: none. REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>7176909
nice doodles
>>7176850
this is one of the things where only raw mileage matters. also post your gestures
>>7176843
i would say it is coming out nicely, you just need to finish the rest of the owl, most notably the dark tones
>>7176773
very cool
>>7176711
make sure to take photo in well lit room and rotate it for maxxing photo gains
>>7176628
needs a bit of keys to drawing
>>7176583
booba
>>7176424
how many master studies have you made during all these years?
>>7176263
i kneel
>>7176240
notice how reference has no and or WHITE outlines. And what did you do? You put black outlines, even on places where there are none. Draw what you see and your pepper will be INT quality
>>7176232
that is super common, the best drawers are usually their own worst critics. that is why they keep improving nonstop: nothing they ever do is good enough for them
>>7176225
having fun with a blue pencil. i kneel

>>7177039
They're looking pretty flat. But also, try drawing them on a better shaped head. I feel like these all look like shit because they're being done on a big ass sphere, and might actually look OK on a head.

>>7177039
dam pawell, i hope you slow down and take your time, no amount of "grind" will help you, you need conscious focused love making effort, not rushed mindless hopes

>>7177039
bro what drawing software do you use?

>>7177044
she looks like she fucks human men

A lesser study of a cutesexyrobutts piece.

>>7176995
Don't use chinks for your reference lmao?

How do I transition from copying to drawing

>>7177123
stop doing the former and start doing the latter. assuming you know what those terms mean, it will be self-evident how to broadly do that. as for what you should specifically draw, draw whatever you want, which at best only you know.

>>7177123
Copying is a terminal illnes, is over for you

gotten a chance to look back at old work since i started a figure drawing class. Still nowhere near where i wanna be, but this felt quite satisfying to see. Left was from about 3 months ago, right is taken about a week ago.

>>7177143
Gj anon, that's progress. It's clear you've been working at it and being consistent. Don't give up, you can go far

>>7177143
Good progress for three months, it's easy to see how you've grown.

>>7177144
>>7177146
Thanks, to be honest I've been beating myself up for not improving this last week so seeing this is exactly what I needed. Definitely fired up to keep at it

>>7177149
Your progress will slow down, and you'll hit plateaus, but if you stay consistent you will keep getting better

>>7176232
I really enjoy my art lol. I'm always excited to finish a drawing so I can see what it looks like, and I usually spend a lot of time just looking at my own drawings. I go back through old sketchbooks a lot.

Objectively I know my art isn't very good, but regardless I still get a good feeling from looking at it. Not every drawing of course, but a lot of them.

i'm fucking addicted to videogames and literally cannot stand up to draw and i'm ashamed everyday.<br>Thanks for reading me.

>>7177161
What kind of games? I think that games are so fucking shitty and soulless today that I can't get into game addiction anymore. Maybe I'll get back to it when GTA6 drop. Doing art is much more fun than anything else today.

>>7177104
I know you said this is a CSR study but was it adapted to be the tall secretary OC that sometimes pops up in the OC threads?

If so, personal fan.

Dear god please, how the fuck do you draw long hair that is remotely simplified, I can't get it to look like anything other than a big spiky chunk or a bunch of tentacles

Daily shit drawing #11
Goint through Reiq's head drawing workshop.
What was supposed to be a 10min portrait became a half a fucking hour dogshit mess.
After so many attempts and fucking up again and again and again and again and again and again and again and realizing I would need to autistically measure every single fucking angle and line with a ruler to just shittily sightsize it(thing I didnt do obviously) I just stopped.

This is the very same dogshit I tried to do one year ago and I completely wasted all this fucking time. Cant believe I am back at the very bottom after a whole year of getting nowhere.

Seeing the teach so easily and flawlessly do it from reference while I can't even recreate the very fucking lines he does stroke by stroke and end up with this tranny looking freak gives me a sense of unease like you have no idea. Legit makes me want to puke from disgust.

>>7177212
>realizing I would need to autistically measure every single fucking angle and line with a ruler to just shittily sightsize it

Well at least you have diagnosed the issue, there’s got to be some way to practice that specifically. Maybe just practice copying lots of head outlines to start, to get experience with curves/angles/relative lengths. Also, this is subjective but taking my time to fix the proportions/angles, even if it takes longer than it should, is good for my motivation. Because then at least the finished sketch looks pleasant to look at. My cope is that speed and accuracy will come with time

Could I please get some general feedback?
Started drawing ~2 years ago from 0 background. This is the past 2 months' worth of stuff.
Some general points on things I'm getting wrong/not paying attention to would be very appreciated.
I am also curious to know how quality of the composition/anatomy, the lineart, and the coloring/shading compare to each other so I can focus on one for improvement (basically I'm curious about which component contributes most to making it look bad).

Thanks in a van.

>>7177334
You know what makes me want to slice my fucking throat?
Around a year or so ago I said I was going to get serious and started the very same course, got disappointed with my utter lack of talent and gave up on it to just halfassedly ref some animu shit.
This is from last year's April.
I didn't appy myself, I didn't study. I didn't try and now I am even fucking worse.
Even now I doubt I can actually study and fear I am terminally retarded like the myriad deviantart autists that used to plague the internet.
Right back to the very fucking bottom even deeper in my own shit.

Guess there is only one way up but seeing that i didn't try, i regressed and now I cant still do shit makes me feel so bad. Viscerally bad. Nauseous.

>>7177345
based chihaya fan

Learn how to observe, once you figure this out everything makes sense. Try looking for Dorian Iten’s accuracy course.

just got a galaxy s9 for my birthday :D

What are some simple apps to get started with digital art?

>>7177373
CSP.
A basic screenless tablet would be way better anyway though

>>7177380
>A basic screenless tablet would be way better anyway though
That's not how birthday presents work :)

>>7177345
Your feature placement is bad. Missplaced feature breaks most drawings instantly, especially drawings that were supposed to be of cute anime girls.

>>7177370
Appreciated, thank you.
>>7177390
Is there any noticeable trend? Eyes usually too high, mouth usually too low, etc?

Can I study Taco, Morpho AND Bridgman or would that be redundant?

how the hell do i loomis? i really struggle with the nose. i struggle with drawing womens faces with loomis as well

>>7177412
use stabilization plus lazy nezumi pro to stabilize your lines. They are all over the place. Use the cubebrush and Peter Han's warmup routine. You don't know how to make marks still. That comes first. Then you can create cylinders into perspective.

>>7177184
Ha ha, that's the one.
Thank you very much!

>>7177428
>use stabilization plus lazy nezumi pro to stabilize your lines.
giga cringe

>>7177431
>>7177432
While stabilization is there and can help your lines, I have to stress that over reliance and over use of it can actively hurt the look of your illustrations.

I've seen beginners use heavy stabilization and slowly trace their sketch so their lineart gets this inflated balloon looking effect where there's no sharp edges at all or varying line weight. Stabilization can absolutely help with lineart but it can also really fuck up the look of artwork if you don't use it carefully

>>7177123
If you can copy with some accuracy then all you need is to practice drawing the gesture and construction underneath.

Line quality wont fix your broken ass beg drawings.

>>7177106
>reference
this was from imagination

>>7177406
Do you reqlly want your drawings to look like Morpho?

my new printer has such a shitty scanner.. even my phone camera is better<br>My old shitty printer had a better scanner than this new one, wtf?

>>7177442
Might want to check your replies

>>7177450
Configure it properly. It looks like you're using document settings. Those apply filters to get sharp letters and white background. You need higher ppp, grayscale, no filter.

>>7177451
>>7177444
>>7177443
>>7177442
>>7177432
While studying construction, anatomy, color theory and the fundamental building blocks of art will not be replaced by the use of software of any kind, it will ease into transitioning from using physical media for markmaking into digital art. The idea of digital media (at least for me) is to make it as close to traditional art as possible, in terms of biomechanical traits. Using software will not replace learning the fundamentals. It's a tool among other.

>>7177450
Automatic settings? Scanners love polar bears in snowstorms.
Fire up your scanner program, enable manual controls, then begin by dropping gamma as low as it goes. Then tweak contrast and brightness until you get where you want. Memorise/screenshoot your settings as you can be sure it will forget them.

>>7177462
>>7177459
i was using the phone app, maybe i could connect it to a laptop but damn that's so much effort

What's a good balance between drawing for fun and sitting down to study? I studied constructing parts of the figure for about 2 months or so before getting burnt out, now I'm just drawing for fun but I feel I'm not really improving.

I noticed a lot of you arent spacing out your eyes properly. You draw like tumblr artist drawing everyones eyes really close together.

>>7177472
Like 90% fun, 10% study. But study the stuff you want to incorporate into your for fun drawing so you can apply it.

>>7177474
>>7177412
Do I really have to do all this autistic super measuring stuff with a fucking ruler and angles just to draw a shitty anime face?
My middle school classmates drew pretty fucking good anime and realistic portraits without all this shit and I a grown ass man cant even do it tracing kinda bums me desu.

>>7177428
sorry, i drew it on my phone while on break at work. the stabiliser in ibispaint is shit

>>7177477
the problem is either you dont know where the features should go, or you do know, but can't put them there.

if you dont know, you need to study drawings and anatomy.

if you do know and cant put them there, you need more practice drawing basic shapes. you need to actually build your muscle memory for drawing

>>7177477
Just have to have good intuition.

>>7177477
Its like training wheels on a bike. Once you are familiar with it, you can drop them and do it free hand while keeping the general rule , like an eye width between your eyes, in mind. If youre not getting the proportions right, its time to measure it.

>>7177481
>>7177482
So basically its fucking Joever.
>Muh basic shapes
Great. I can do a circle roughly the same size as the head but I cant draw the rest of the fucking owl. Thanks a lot.

>>7177477
just collect references and keep them on screen while you draw. trace over your favourite anime characters with circles and triangles

>>7177477
The main thing to keep in mind is that the eyes should have a distance of about one eye between them. As long as they aren't enormous or very small, it doesn't matter how realistic or uguu you draw them.

>>7177474
>All this fucking retarded measuring
>If you ignore all the extra eyes, the proportions are still fucking awful

Is this a joke that I'm too autistic to get?

>>7177504
If androgynous mutts are what you want to draw, Morpho is the best option.

>>7177502
>So you're saying measuring is useless
>No
>So I have to do an asinine amount of measuring
>also no
>SO I DON'T HAVE TO MEASURE?!
Its literally an exaggeration on measuring proportions so yes, you're autistic.

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>>7177517
I quite literally did not say any of that shit. How did you even come up with all that?

>>7177550
Went out on a limb to see where youre initial retardation would lead.

>>7177559
I was just asking if the pic was a bit or not, man. Take your blood pressure medication.

Could use some criticism/tips for how to improve my style a little bit.

>>7177477
Eyeball the measurement atleast, retard

Now all that's left to do is paint layers and layers of details and add more structures/environment?


I draw because I hate everything.

Only a few people like my artwork.

>>7175358
Just wanted to let you know...

>>7175453
The majority of Gears are made of Metal.

>>7175453
They can get rusty if you leave them exposed to the elements.

>>7175635
I will think about it. I need to find something that I haven't shared with my mutuals. Or draw something new.

>>7175351
>I draw because I hate everything
doesn't logically follow, but okay sweaty
>Only a few people like my artwork
par the course

>>7175351
If you hate everything what do you draw?

>>7175688
Hes 60 years old, just a fucking kid

>>7175351
Usada Pekora and Metal Gear are the best.


Bone Drop Soup

Journal Master

Basedcast approved of my comic. Does /ic/?

Anonymous

I don't think I'd want the approval of anything called "Based Cast."

>>7177181
It’s auto generated from 4chan. OP is trying to say S_ycast