>24 years old jap zoomer who only started drawing during the pandemic
>Already skilled and successful
If he can make it, so can you

He doesn't have to learn a second language to get published.

sage

>>7171511
How many more threads about this manga are you going to make?

Anonymous

>>7171513
Yeah, nobody reads comics of any sort in English speaking countries, and there has never been a successful indie comics, not one!

>>7171593
>and there has never been a successful indie comics, not one!
You know both Invinvible and Scott Pilgrim are 20+ years old and only got popular thanks to adaptations made way later they ended right?

>>7171607
Right, and since then, everybody stopped reading all comics, which is why manga is such a failure over here, yeah?
And people may think there were successes since then, such as homestuck, and that you're being a pathetic cherry picking asshole who ignores evidence if it's contrary to his opinion, but I know you're right anon.

>only got popular thanks to adaptations made way later they ended right?
Yeah, the reason they made the "incredibly popular comics series" Scott Pilgrim into a movie was to simply mog it with with the film adaption's success and put comics in its place (which it did, because we all know that the movie was an incredible financial success), and not because the franchise already had a massive fan-base.

>>7171513
>>7171640
You can just make manga too. It doesn't require learning a whole new language, that just helps. There's an anon on this very board that managed to get published without knowing japanese.
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/712902<wbr>0

>>7171511
>>Already skilled and successful

>gook gets skilled in something in a short amount of time

color me shocked

>>7171511
wtf bros, you guys told me i had to be born copying bridgeman to go pro
you mean you could do weekly action manga starting in you 20s?

>>7171511
the pandemic lockdowns were pretty long dude like weeks to a month at a time. Also he already live in Japan.

>>7171511
>24 years old jap zoomer
?????

Started drawing manga(comics) during the pandemic. Did he draw before it. Probably.

>>7171511
>If he can make it, so can you
Absolutely nope, these bugmen make it because they work on their shit at least twelve hours a day 7 days a week with no breaks. Westerner fags are lazy as fuck and get walled by every gay emotion that vaguely pops up on the horizon already, twentisomethings on fucking 4chan are like the mentality challenged version of that so there is no fucking way they're going to make it
If you need constant encouragement to go on you're never going to make it in anything fucking retard, just find something else to waste the time of your pathetic life on and stop annoying people that actually have a chance.
You guys are fucking pathetic holy shit

>>7171839
Did he live with his mom?
You can't draw for 12 hours a day and pay bills, niggaroni.

>>7171511
>If he can make it, so can you
Retards here don't even draw

>>7171840
Keep crying you whimpering fucking faggot, 20 years will go by and you'll still be bad, doesn't matter how much time you have but do keep drumming up excuses

>>7171853
Lmao I guarantee I mog the shit out of you, I'm simply pointing out that the logistics don't work you sperg.

>>7171855
Oh I'm sure you mog a lot of people in your schizophrenic episodes you headcase

>>7171859
Do you have any answer for the original problem?
How do you draw for 12 hours a day 7 days a week and still manage to live as an adult? What job allows you to do this and pays a living wage until you can land that glorious Shonen Jump contract (that still doesn't pay a living wage for first world countries)?

>>7171840
>Japan
>not living with your parents until you get married
>he's still uni age
Most probably he did, just like every fucking guy that "makes it" in and out of nipland. Did you really think shit like redjuice or whatever fag you can name that's younger than 40 had to actually work a regular ass job that regular fucking drain you and gives you just enough to fucking survive?
Another thing you faggodons don't get is that art education is something that can realistically be paid only by middle class families, if your dad works in a factory there is no fucking way they can afford to have you go to an art school and be prettty much sure they're going to pay for your existence until you give up your dumbass dreams and find a job
And anyway I'm fucking tired to say the same shit every fucking thread, tl;dr if you're worried of """"making it"""" or """""not gonna make it""""""""""""" you're already fucked beyond salvation

Asian jeans is just not eating gluten.<br>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glute<wbr>n-related_disorders

>>7171840
Japan's cost of living is a fraction of the cost of living in a country that trades in dollars. You can probably get by on a part-time job over there (probably assistant work) as long as you're willing to live in a shoebox. That's honestly probably the biggest advantage, because yes, in other countries you'll probably be forced to live with your parents/in a sharehouse, not a great environment for focusing on making comics. It is possible though.

>>7171607
Bruh Scott Pilgrim had a video game and a fucking live action movie made before the series even ended, what the fuck are you on about

>>7171607
Scott PIlgrim was popular as fuck years ago, what the fuck are you talking about.

>>7171682
My man autistically used google translate to get a drawing gig as a hentai artists, yea nah
That dude probably got paid pennoes.

>>7173862
And also him relying on google translate seems to be a pisstake, he doesn't seem to know wether he even has a contract or not.
I kmow it is ass cause I used it whilst reading some korean articles years ago and it was so ass with so many mistakes.

Seems better to try and make a viral animatiom or game then do that desu.

>>7173862
>>7173868
>him relying on google translate seems to be a pisstake
Seems like it's good enough though. Obviously, I mean he got published despite that, so clearly it can be done.
>That dude probably got paid pennoes.
Isn't this sour grapes? Mangaka make their money through royalties, so how much he's paid depends on how the books sell.

>>7173889
> Isn't this sour grapes
Nah I just doubt he got paid much to do the gig.
The whole grift sounds like it could fall apart at any time once google translate starts fucking up too much, it is already not great since the translation fucked up on wether or not he has a contract, considering he seems confused on the whole prospect of that. I’ve used google translate to translate Korean and Chinese articles, it’s not amazing.

Imo it seems a lot easier just to make your own product and shill it with a higher chance of success than go through all that grim shit just to try and get your foot in the door as a manga artist most of which don’t make much money to begin with not to mention; the Japanese economy and yen isn’t doing so good right now.

The Andy and Lesley stuff or the pomp stuff idk, you can definitely make some sort of a brand characters and shill them to the end of the moon. You can make money easily that way.

The amount of effort he put into doing that the months wasted trying communicate to Japanese people without even knowing the company could be better spent making a mascot to shill online and a story or game along side it.

There are so many ways to make more garunteed money then doing that, if it gets so popular Japanese artist might make hentai and dojins for it for free. It’s just seems like a waste to go through that process instead of investing that into something a bit more substantial.

>>7174026
I dunno if you actually read the thread but he said he uses both google translate and deepl, and checks the output manually. That's not the same as just blindly using what the MTL spits out. Moot point, because it seems like he's already published, which is what I'm saying: you don't need to know japanese to get published, it just helps.
>the translation fucked up on wether or not he has a contract, considering he seems confused on the whole prospect of that
I don't see anything in that thread that gives the impression that he's not sure he's contracted. He even explicitly says that he's on a contract when normally authors wouldn't be, for whatever reason. Anyway you seem to have just made this detail up and are running wild with it, lmao.
>Imo it seems a lot easier just to make your own product and shill it
Irrelevant. OP complained a zoomer who just recently started drawing got published, first poster pointed out he didn't need to learn a language, I pointed out that neither do we and my example is somebody who's currently getting published without learning japanese. You trying to claim that that's somehow a bad thing is plainly sour grapes.
>the rest of your post
If it's so easy, why don't you do it? Oh right, cos it's not easy. Publishers exist for a reason.
And no shit there's better ways to make money. We could all totally be doctors or lawyers or real estate moguls, I'm sure. But we want to make money from our art, and especially comics, so our choices are obviously limited. It's obviously not easy to make a living on your own making comics, that's the whole reason publishers exist to begin with.

>>7174071
I didn't expect a responce nice. I guess I'll have a bit of fun. I don't hate the guy or anything, sorry if it came out like that.

>I don't see anything in that thread that gives the impression that he's not sure he's contracted
skim readed it primarily this part
>You trying to claim that that's somehow a bad thing is plainly sour grapes.
Not really I'm not jelous of the person in the slightest, I don't want to be a hentai artist to begin with.

To me personally though imo going through all that effort for the result that he got, is a bit of a waste of talent desu, You have great tendancy but do that. Imo it is just not optimal especially for advice. If you really really want to sure but imo I feel like it is a waste I'm sorry.

 Imo if it was more straightforward I would agree but I feel like the end result of what that anon did after 3 years wasn't great, and the amount of things that can go wrong especially with translation is mainly why I don't think I'd recommend doing that.

I just feel like the amount of effort could be pivoted elsewhere with better results, if he likes to do it and wants to I'd say go for it but I personally don't think it is a method you should really go and pursue considering it is a lot of effort for imo a mid reward.

At the same time though you aren't wrong the dude did get published. If you really want to no matter the cost I guess you can do it even if it is something very low end like that.

>>7174383
But if you want to become a comic artist no matter the cost can sorta understand it. Webtoons has actually hired some people from /ic/, though you loose your ip rights amd the money they make isn't great. Also burn out, the comic keys is an example 4channer who made it, burned out quickly that with many haituses and the art degrading very quickly. There are other issues with the site as the site doesn't generate a loyal fanbase, you barely hear of any of these original wentoons outside of webtoon itself. Those webtoon comics (everything not korean) themselves have no real market value.
Also a loss of ip rights if you become an original.
Conpare that to manga lol.

Imo though I personally can't see myself doing that, persobally after looking at the whole market I feel like pivoting and creating a comic at least in the west is a lost cause desu. They is no milk and honey at the end of it all, the odds of getting some decent money is worse then the odds of making a viral game and even if you make a decent product you are gonna get rugpulled by webtoons or tapas not to mention monetisation is non existent unless you get featured and webtoons pays you their flat rate.

If you really want to get your foot in the door making manga I guess doing all of that is a good stepping stone, maybe in the future that guy might be big. It is slightly better than the other options I guess.

>>7174392
I legit thought Webtoons just allowed anyone to post there, you mean you have to give out your IP rights and work off a flat rate? Why the fuck would anyone do that? Desperation?

>>7174401
> I legit thought Webtoons just allowed anyone to post there, you mean you have to give out your IP rights and work off a flat rate
Only if you become featured, if you don’t you can post it for free without your ip getting taken, but you will be stuck on canvas with no way to make money and a lot less views. The pay rate for canvas is absolutely abysmal. You won’t have any real reach at all, you are better off being a YouTuber.
https://youtu.be/txJeAz0qkFw?si=klj<wbr>1Itp9KixgJTP2

>>7174442
Also here is a good video on webtoons the the whole economics of it. It is a very interesting conversation, and why the website is a bit hopeless. Very in depth video that is very cool about the industry trends and webtoons bad strategy.
https://youtu.be/DejbSMttvXA?si=joi<wbr>KrpWqPmrLAaSh

>>7174383
>skim readed it primarily this part
Anon somebody else being confused about whether or not he is contracted does not mean he is confused as to whether or not he's contracted. He straight up said he's contracted, and explained that normally he wouldn't be. Why he included that detail I don't know, but it doesn't contradict the idea that he's in a contract. They are not mutually exclusive statements.
>I don't want to be a hentai artist to begin with.
So apply the same idea to something that isn't hentai. Do you seriously need somebody to tell you that?
You don't know it won't work unless you try. This published guy didn't know it would work, but it did. Instead of looking for reasons to fail, look for reasons to succeed.
>I personally don't think it is a method you should really go and pursue considering it is a lot of effort for imo a mid reward.
I'm not really seeing how making a living with his art is not a sufficient reward. Besides, if comics are all you want to do then whether or not it's "worth it" is pretty much irrelevant, isn't it? Like I said, if you consider what's "worth it" or not, there are far, far better professions than author or artist.
>>7174392
Yes, exactly. Webtoons sucks, and there aren't really any western options, so people who want to go pro are stuck. However it's at least possible to work with a japanese publisher instead.


How do I draw a face like this in anime form? I keep trying, but I always end up making them look uncanny valley and wrong in my drawings

>>7171585
>Wants us to fix problem in his drawings
>Doesn't post drawings
I swear all OPs must be certified retarded to create threads or something.

>>7171585
That's a generic Tetsuo Hara face

>>7171585
>>7171601
omg he even has an underbite

>>7171585
Stop thinking of it like "anime" and start think about stylization. When you mean anime, what comes to mind? Can you think of an artist who draws similar looking people in the style you want?
"Anime" means nothing.

>>7171623
Exactly what this anon said. Don't force a style. Your style will come naturally after a number of studies and observation from photographs and real life. I find my best faces come from my own natural flow rather than trying to imitate someone else's style.

>>7172142
bro looking like a bicycle seat


My numbers have been really ass lately<br>What's the current FotM to pander to? I really need numbers

AI generated BLACKED<br>Fucking worthless retard why the fuck can't you figure this out yourself

>>7171632
ever think that your numbers are ass is because you draw fotm without even knowing the characters in the first place?

>>7171632
What does FOTM even mean in burgerish?
Fuck all the minorities?

>>7171632
>another social credit thread
I heard the latest FotM is killing yourself

>>7171632
amazing digital circus
fallout tv series
baldur's gate 3 but wait until patch 7 drops

>>7171667
flavour of the month. just the latest 'hot thing' that's getting views.

>>7171632
pomni from amzing digital circus or dungeon meshi.

>>7171672
dumbfuck, you wanted more attention than anyone else here. instead of hiding these threads you go in and get pissed when you walked into one.

>>7171647
>blacked
it's orange-ish, and it's suletta mercury, anyone who had seen the anime will guess it instantly

>>7171632
>What's the current FotM

i need to know this too
anyone?

FOTM chasing is a massive beginner trap.

Imagine gambling instead of practicing. Oh boy even if you win the lottery you now have 4000k new followers who don't give a shit about your art and won't interact with your posts or buy commissions.

>>7171988
That's bullshit
Every modern artist kickstarted themselves by hanging around Touhou and Vocaloid for a reason
Everyone hangs around FotM before going independent. It's a valid and solid strategy

>>7172002
>Every modern artist kickstarted themselves by hanging around Touhou and Vocaloid for a reason

pfffffhahahahahahahaha, you need to touch grass immediately lmfao that's such an insane claim

From what I have seen, the best FotM right now is Blue Archive.
Unfortunately, I am not a degenerate, and lolicon artists are not a safe bet due to the current reactions from Twitter and Pixiv.
Next in line is probably Nikke. But I don't like it because it's girls who placed their brains into robot. It disturbs me.

Frieren and Bocchi were great for harvesting clout. Shame it ended so quick

>>7172008
Why don't you try looking at the profile of mangakas that got popular in the past decade. You'll find Touhou, Vocaloid, and iM@s among their first works

>>7171632
stop eating junk food, its not that hard to lose weight if youd just stop with the empty calories, you fatty mcfatty

>>7172026
>people who draw anime like anime

what a shocking revelation. you're kinda dumb brotha man

>>7172048
Everyone rode the coattails of Undertale
Everyone rode Fortnite
Everyone rode Kancolle, FnaF, Fate, and Arknights

Everyone will always ride the FotM until they can stand on their on

>>7171988
https://x.com/nsfw_pixels?s=21

https://www.patreon.com/nsfwpixels

Anon, it’s not a /beg/ trap, if it was then stuff like this wouldn’t be paid 6k a month.

Also, fanartist/fotm producers are quite often hired by large companies. You’re just coping right now.

>>7172055
>>7172059

Alright good luck lol. Chase that dragon (You're so close!!!!!)

>>7172060
Anon, you don’t have to start seething like this, it’s getting pathetic, even by 4chan standards.

>>7171659
didn't stop people like sakmichan or whatever her name is.

>>7171647
That's not AI
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/1<wbr>09566727
You can literally see the bad brush strokes with zero smudge


>>7171616
You didn't shade her face and right leg skin but I like it. She is also pregnant which isn't my cup of tea

>>7171616
>he doesn't know what a bike looks like
cringe
when was the last time you left your basement?

>>7171616
this is first time I see a bicycle with chain on left side. I dont know if such a thing exist, if so they're not very common.

>>7171616
now put her in something other than a white void

>>7171616
Learn how to draw a horse on first place

>>7173440
Dude, you should draw furrys instead of anime. Cuz I'll fuck that horse

>>7173442
I draw whichever pays the bills (neither)

>>7173459
I'm asking about your socials, do you have them?

>>7175823
its lemonparty.org
 18+ of course


Vector art?

I'm newbie at anything art. I started doing lowpoly 3d in Blender and the whole process feels natural and I'm just intuitively doing things and improve and feel fine. I also picked 2d and bought cheap but good xp-pen, but for some reason I feel completely lost compared to 3d. Some things sometimes randomly work out, but often not. Also I'm surprised how incredibly long it takes to do some basic lineart over sketch for example. I'm mostly doing anime faces so far, maybe not the easiest thing to start with, but one idea I had, maybe I should try to do vector instead? The thing about vector which seems promising is that it's very similar to 3d: you draw using objects and move points and can adjust them infinitely until it makes sense. If I want to do some anime character arts which later I can trace in Blender to get 3d characters, do you think vector can work for me? Also, do you think it can work to construct anime character lineart in vector then export into raster and paint over it with raster techniques?

>>7171727
It does sound like vector would suit you, however your main question is:
>If I want to do some anime character arts which later I can trace in Blender to get 3d characters, do you think vector can work for me?
For the most part, the answer is no. That method of creating art would be torturous for creating an anime character to use as reference material, for your 3D modeling. You're just going to have to learn to draw, and put in the time to do it. That said, you don't necessarily need good line art or rendering for your drawings to use them as a reference, you only need to draw the reference well enough for your uses, so stop stressing about the line art over the sketch.

However, the reason I said 'for the most part' is because you can make some very simple 'anime' characters using the vector method (simple shapes and moving them around etc.), and perhaps you would be happy with them, but if something like your picrel is your goal, it's better to just learn to draw, because that was almost certainly a vector trace over of a hand-drawn sketch.

>>7171791
Thanks for suggestions!
> That method of creating art would be torturous for creating an anime character to use as reference material, for your 3D modeling. You're just going to have to learn to draw, and put in the time to do it.
But why is that so? Is it just inherently more hard to do stuff in vector? If you lets say put the same amount of effort into skills in both drawing by hand and drawing using vector tools, will it still be easier/faster to do stuff by hand than using vector tools?

I just tried to do some very very basic generic eyes from tutorials in the Inkscape, and it felt it took me pretty much the same time as drawing on tablet, maybe even less. And I had absolutely zero idea what I'm doing, I just fucked around with stuff in toolbars. I know it's shit, but when trying the same style from tutorials on tablet, I had similar shitty results too (yeah, I'm just really bad at this atm). But with vector it seems it's much easier to adjust stuff. Also it's kinda "reusable", you can save those shapes and then build a face from presets vectors you made and sligthly adjust them for variation. Kinda "modular" approach.

>>7171808
>But why is that so? Is it just inherently more hard to do stuff in vector?
It's sorta like doing realistic portraits with textmode or low resolution pixel art, yeah it's definitely possible, but you're going to be struggling against the medium's methods - same when it comes to vector art and what you want to do with it.

But hey, if you think it's a viable method based on what you're doing, then it is. Just because I personally wouldn't do it that way, doesn't mean it won't work for you.
It sounds to me that you already have a good grasp on how vector art is made, and if you think it's viable, then go for it.
Though I still think drawing abilities will only prove helpful, but you do you.

>>7171895
> you're going to be struggling against the medium's methods - same when it comes to vector art and what you want to do with it.
Do you have any technical examples of this in mind?
For me it's just not obvious why redoing whole strokes or even layers (if you're not happy how it turned out), is more convenient or faster than moving points around and changing parameters.

>>7171946
>Do you have any technical examples of this in mind?
It's just that if you're going to be making somewhat complex characters using the 'building block' sort of approach of vector art, I feel your going to be spending a lot of time adjusting the placement of the different shapes (before combining them) to get the overall shape you want. Otherwise, you may use the pen tool, but are you going to free hand the pen tool to create your drawing, if you find drawing regularly to be too difficult? I'm just going off my own experiences with making vector images - I like doing it, but I definitely wouldn't use it for the kind of work you're going for, but like I said earlier, if you you think it'll work for you, it may well do so.

Actually, I recall having a one time friend who would make very complex drawing right in illustrator with the pen tool, with no sketches or anything to guide him, you may well be similar.

>For me it's just not obvious why redoing whole strokes or even layers (if you're not happy how it turned out), is more convenient or faster than moving points around and changing parameters.
If you feel like it's all good, go for it. To me it seems that you have a good idea of how to approach vector art, and if you think this method is viable, you're probably right. If not? You'll find out pretty quickly - that's experimentation, baby.


How do i learn to draw in a western style?
Everyobe makes fun of me for my interest in japanese popculture, i only draw in the anime styles and i think western art is fucking disgusting and i fucking hate it and i hate western music.
So how do i find a western style thats not fucking ugly to draw in that isn’t disgusting?

You are a western man, your style is inherently western. <br>Also nobody would ever mistake what you draw for authentic Japanese manga.

>>7171733
Im indigenous australian so im not actually western

>>7171741
no i have to be trained in it and i dont like it and it doesnt have facial expressions

>>7171731
If you're a westerner it just comes naturally.

>>7171800
it doesn’t, only manga/anime comes naturally to me, and im aboriginal australian

>>7171731
Be honest with yourself and ignore the others. If you're only drawing for yourself, you have no obligation to change your work. Art is personal.

>>7171800
>If you're a westerner it just comes naturally.
this. its why I stick to drawing Spongebob Squarepants fanart.

if you just hate everything western, it's an issue of ignorance on your part.

have you tried not consuming the most surface-level media possible? Do you only like squeaky anime jpop? You might just have really bad taste.

Not everything on the west is cartoon network and nickelodeon garbage.

Go to /aco/ and find the AI thread.

>but is AI
literally doesn't matter, go there for inspiration of western cartoon waifus that are sexually appealing.

>>7172053
why the fuck do you think im only into surface level shit, i like malice mizer and jpop with deep female voices, but all you do is listen to american shit “music” and masturbate to ben 10 fuck you kill yourfucking self

sage

>>7171815
unless you're huffing unleaded 91, you're a westerner

Anonymous

What about is it about western art disgusts you?

>>7172807
the ugliness, the lack of musical theory comprehension and that they make the most shit songs these days without any effort and they dont sing for a lot of the mysic they usually just talkor do cursive “singing”

>>7172811
Look up classic Disney, up to the late 00’s. Renaissance era is based heavily on musicals.

>>7172063
>SAAAAAAAR PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL REDEEM MY AI PROGRAM


How do you explain the stylization of those niggas?

can you stop spamming these pointless threads

>*finish a drawing or painting*
>"looks good to me"
>publish

Three things /ic/ can't do, which is why they make shit threads like this. Anyone who is mad about making a thread is an attention whore worried that their shitty WIP isn't going to get any (You)'s on the nothing board.

>>7172025
>Anyone who is mad about making a thread is an attention whore worried that their shitty WIP isn't going to get any (You)'s on the nothing board
I root for them


draw a dark, fucked up version of something

>>7172010
heres a dark sonic the hedgehog

sorry its not very dark I kinda just wanted to draw a hand

>>7172010
>why yes, i watch oneyplays every day, how could you tell?

>>7172442
its an average size flaccid peenis, hes just small

>>7172311
Very cool, a glimpse into your dark twisted mind ( wish I was as good )

>>7172487
That's a bad drawing, aspire to greater things.

>>7172016
>>7172389
Let's go darker.
>>7172311
>>7172391
These two are unironically cool.

>>7172500
Wooooooow! He's allowed to say the nigger word? That's so badass and cool. You might even get cancelled on twitter!

>>7172425
i can see this in the next smiling friends episode

>>7172385
I really like this. You actually had an Atari back then?

>>7172881
Oh yeah. I got it at 15 or so. I tried learning to program BASIC, but anything remotely "good" was done through machine language and other than the compiling of the executable, the bulk of the program was blocks of data all in hexadecimal. Imagine typing out a few dozen things like this:

"124,12,10:a3D5G8xx0090S244frp5h33n<wbr>0009q2q44q90zzy0z0axxc097ADASAHxxx5<wbr>4309843ses5499988,248"

And only having cassette tapes to save your work on,and only being able to retrieve it half the time. I got myself an 800xl a few years later which was more promising. It had a floppy disk drive,and even a program that enabled one to make text adventures (the Use Item on Other Item sort). It was a fun time, but I like today's toys.

The funny thing is that the person who drew OP is actually being very serious and draws abstract edgy shit on the regular


If I die of starvation choosing to make my drawings will I go to valhalla for dying to do what I want instead of dying of old age pushing a mop?

>>7172013
only if you die holding your pencil

>>7172021
But I'm fighting, fighting to create, fighting to counter Jewish propaganda.

>>7172185
you're on 4chan shitposting fighting an edgy retard's internet poisoned idea of a culture war, you arent doing anything.

>>7172191
I wonder whos behind this post.

>>7172194
disagree with me? I bet youre a JEW or a NIGGER.

heheh i said the shock words, i bet that guy is quaking in his boots right now. I am such a based freedom fighter B)

>>7172232
>heh you think im IRONICALLY retarded? Guess what buddy

incredible. I bet andrew tate and nick fuentes are going to call you at any moment as the new hero of western masculinity. Try taking some responsibility for your own crap life and personality instead of praying to Odin, dork.

>>7172236
It would be nice if they did, but the goal is to water down the amount of faggotry is in todays media. Sorry you want to paint dicks.

>>7172251
idk how to tell you that you're dumb and convey it in a way that won't be read as a meaningless throwaway 4chan insult.
 You seem like an individual that lacks the critical thinking skills to analyze what you're being sold in an objective manner based on a reality of the world that isn't filtered through resentful grievance peddlers.

DON'T BELIEVE THE KIKES, THEY ONLY WANT TO SEE YOU FAIL.

Ive nooticed that leftypol nodraws show up en masse on the weekend

>>7172274
Same, i dont know how you dont understand people like to make counter culture and for some odd reason, wanting to make something that isnt something gay on netflix, or trannyfying shit like blues clues. Youre assuming im doing this because of right wing grifters and not because of the literal faggot media thats being pushed, but you reaaaaly want me to be the idiot you see me as. You can keep seeing me as such, im not going to jump through your gay agenda for your approval.

Doing counter culture is fun because you get to see people for who they really are.


how do I draw faster? everything I draw takes too fucking long.

>>7172173
Work on a visual library in your mind. Memorize as much as you can.
Create detailed sheets of the things you draw so you have quick reference.

>>7172173
Keep drawing until you can skip steps

learn fundamentals. john buscema has the second highest amount of comic pages drawn because he was a draftsmen that could break things down to their essence.

you can't draw something difficult quickly. If you want to draw fast, you need to make everything you do easy and familiar. certainty = speed.

find out which part of your process is slowing you down first
if it's just drawing then there isn't much you can do other than get better
if it has to do with rendering, just use a style that's faster to finish (cell shading/black white)

>>7172739
practice with speed in mind, time yourself, start slow and ramp up speed


How do I into chasing and repoussé?

Also engraving, and all other forms of artistic metalwork.<br>Do I need to learn how to draw first?

>>7172273
Yes. Every carving and engraving starts from a drawing.

Ive always thought that these were great resources for inspiration, that is my preferred style anyways, Im not sure about the how-tos with it, it isnt impossible to figure out
https://archive.org/details/grammar<wbr>ornament00Jone
https://archive.org/details/handboo<wbr>koforname00meyeuoft

>>7172333
I should add that frank lloyd wright said his ornamental works were inspired by this book the grammar of ornament as well, but I am pretty much just shooting shit since idk what you would prefer


>>7172289
fucking finally god damn i thought nobody would ever post one of these

>>7173374
Trying hard beats not trying at all every single time, nodraw-kun

Tried to fill in as many details as I could without going overboard. A little messier and uglier than I'd like but at least it kinda looks like the reference.

>>7172631
best in the thread king, i kneel

>>7173325
>Redpillatemi su Caparezza
Italian leftist rapper that became famous with this piece (yep, the subtitles are accurate):
watch?v=jx8GhXm-HcA

>>7172289
I don't draw wiggers with afro

Imbraccia il fucil, prepara il cannon
Difendi il verdano dai riccioli d'or
Espelli il negron, inforca il terron
E servi il tuo popolo con fulgido amor

Anche se sono del Gargano
Sogno di diventare verdano
Mamma, asciugati le lacrime porto
Le mie natiche in fabbriche che non abbiamo
Mollami la mano, dico, mollami la mano
Che da quando sono nato
Bramo lo Stato verdano
No, non amo ciò che è sotto il mio meridiano
Da piccolo odiavo l'inquilino del primo piano
Sul banco tracciavo linee di confine
Di Rijkaard e Gullit niente figurine
Bambini e bambine in cortile
Io verde di bile
Col Monopoli mettevo in prigione
Le mie pedine
Bene, sto bene nel mio ruolo, volo
Non sono solo, siamo uno stuolo
La Verdania chiama "All'armi!", mi arruolo
Con la mia divisa cetriolo io:

Voglio una Verdania secessionista
Con una bandiera secessionista
Una fidanzata secessionista
Con cui fare l'amore secessionista
Un appartamento secessionista
Con arredamento secessionista
Raccolta di rifiuti secessionista
Ma che cosa sta seccedendo?

>>7177375
a silly language for a silly man


Disney gesture terminology?

At the very top-right of the notes on the drawing, it says
>Top of head used as spear tip to accent direction of thrust.
>Note simplicity of line of action
Is there anything that goes into all these specific terms of dynamism?
What the fuck does it mean to use a head as a "spear tip?"

>>7172292
>op after reading the first 3 replies

>>7172308
cool 5k resize of a 240x240 vhsrip

do they not teach reading comprehension in school anymore?

>>7172319
Drawn to Life 20 Golden Years of Disney Master Classes Volume 1 The Walt Stanchfield Lectures

>>7172321
thank you my goat
only thing I can recommend is preston blairs advanced animation