Key,Data "Hedgehog,Zebra,Unicorn,Chipmunk","3,L,A,4" "3,L,A,4",I am never sure but I think we have to test the 3 to see if there is a vowel. I am never sure but I think we have to test the 3 to see if there is a vowel.,"A,4" "A,4",I was thinking 3 I also wanted to test the A to see if it has an even number.,Does the 4 need to get tested too Does the 4 need to get tested too,seems like a simple way... wouldn''t you have to check L or A seems like a simple way... wouldn''t you have to check L or A,I was going to test the A originally but feel like I should test the A as well I was going to test the A originally but feel like I should test the A as well,The rule does not say that even numbers always have vowels The rule does not say that even numbers always have vowels,Good point Hedgehog Good point Hedgehog,THe L doesnt matter. Consonants could have even numbers and not break the rule. THe L doesnt matter. Consonants could have even numbers and not break the rule.,Would it be A and 4 then Would it be A and 4 then,"A,4" I was thinking 3,If the 3 has a vowel it breaks the rule If the 3 has a vowel it breaks the rule,Im thinking A and 3 now. Im thinking A and 3 now.,Yes exactly Yes exactly,A A,"3,A" "3,A","3,A" "Lion,Kiwi,Beaver","3,A,Z,6" "3,A,Z,6","3,A,6" what do you think,I agree. If A = even then 6 should be a vowel I agree. If A = even then 6 should be a vowel,"yes, it would I think its 3 and A because a is the vowel so we have to test if there would be an even number when turned over and 3 is an odd number so if it had a vowel the rule wouldnt be right" "yes, it would I think its 3 and A because a is the vowel so we have to test if there would be an even number when turned over and 3 is an odd number so if it had a vowel the rule wouldnt be right",Actually wouldn''t you have to turn all of the cards? Actually wouldn''t you have to turn all of the cards?,"to test the rule, we need to check the other cards don''t follow the rule" "to test the rule, we need to check the other cards don''t follow the rule",yeah to then see if there are any excetions to the rule yeah to then see if there are any excetions to the rule,do we need to turn z? do we need to turn z?,z and 3 I think z and 3 I think,we need to turn a over to test the vowel we need to turn a over to test the vowel,do we not need to turn A to see if it has an even number on the other do we not need to turn A to see if it has an even number on the other,yes yes,"yeah, sorry" "yeah, sorry",so which ones do we need to turn? so which ones do we need to turn?,"is it A, 6 and 3?" "is it A, 6 and 3?","all of them, we need to know if the rule applies to every card" "all of them, we need to know if the rule applies to every card",oh yeah sorry oh yeah sorry,everyone happy with that? everyone happy with that?,yeah deffinately yeah deffinately,yeah yeah,"3,A,Z,6" "3,A,6","3,A,Z,6" "Bee,Tiger,Alpaca","U,9,K,4" "U,9,K,4",I picked the two outer cards. I picked the two outer cards.,Me aswell Me aswell,I picked ''U'' and ''4'' I picked ''U'' and ''4'',So we agree U is correct. So we agree U is correct.,Why did you pick 4? Why did you pick 4?,I think 9 is a better pick because it should not be a vowel on the other side I think 9 is a better pick because it should not be a vowel on the other side,I turned the rule around I turned the rule around,"Oh, my bad. You''re right, should be 9" "Oh, my bad. You''re right, should be 9",so we all agree U and 9? so we all agree U and 9?,I do I do,Correct :) Correct :),"U,9" "U,9","U,9" "Lion,Dolphin","E,9,L,6" "E,9,L,6","I checked E, 9, 6" "I checked E, 9, 6",I might actually scrap L here I might actually scrap L here,So give our reasons and go from there? So give our reasons and go from there?,"What are the options - E could have an uneven number, 9 could have a vowel, L could have an even number, 6 could have a consonant. E having an uneven number would invalidate the rule, 9 having a vowel too. L can have an even number, that''s fine. 6 can have a consonant, that''s fine too" "What are the options - E could have an uneven number, 9 could have a vowel, L could have an even number, 6 could have a consonant. E having an uneven number would invalidate the rule, 9 having a vowel too. L can have an even number, that''s fine. 6 can have a consonant, that''s fine too",Why do you think 6 needs to be turned? Why do you think 6 needs to be turned?,Surely the rule allows for consonants to have even numbers Surely the rule allows for consonants to have even numbers,"Sounds reasonable - my Thoughts were as follows: To check the rule that all Vowels have an even number on the other side, we must know both sides of every vowel or potential vowel card. Therefore we turn E (a vowel) 9 (potentially a vowel) and 6 (potentially a vowel)" "Sounds reasonable - my Thoughts were as follows: To check the rule that all Vowels have an even number on the other side, we must know both sides of every vowel or potential vowel card. Therefore we turn E (a vowel) 9 (potentially a vowel) and 6 (potentially a vowel)",L isn''t a vowel so wouldn''t affect the rule. L isn''t a vowel so wouldn''t affect the rule.,"That''s what I thought first as well. But I don''t think the statement is actually exhaustive of even numbers. All vowels have even numbers, but not all even numbers have vowels" "That''s what I thought first as well. But I don''t think the statement is actually exhaustive of even numbers. All vowels have even numbers, but not all even numbers have vowels","So 6 could have anything, that''s fine" "So 6 could have anything, that''s fine",That''s a good point. That''s a good point.,"And of course, we don''t even know if all the cards have a number or letter respectively" "And of course, we don''t even know if all the cards have a number or letter respectively",6 could have a 7 on the other side 6 could have a 7 on the other side,"And indeed, L could have a vowel on the other side." "And indeed, L could have a vowel on the other side.",Yeah Yeah,"Which would make it needed to be turned, yea i''d change my mind based on that" "Which would make it needed to be turned, yea i''d change my mind based on that",E and 9 then? E and 9 then?,Because if E is uneven or 9 has a vowel Because if E is uneven or 9 has a vowel,the rule is broken the rule is broken,"E, 9 and L" "E, 9 and L",Why L again Why L again,"If L has an E on the other side, the rule is broken" "If L has an E on the other side, the rule is broken","No, L is a consonant" "No, L is a consonant",We don''t know anything about them We don''t know anything about them,It rules out two letters on the card at the top. It rules out two letters on the card at the top.,Ah true Ah true,Then E and 9. Sorry. Then E and 9. Sorry.,"I didn''t see that either. but yeah, same is true" "I didn''t see that either. but yeah, same is true",E and 9 E and 9,"E,9" "E,9","E,9" "Leopard,Butterfly","A,8,F,9" "A,8,F,9","8,A,9" "8,A,9","9,A" "9,A",ok select the cards with even number and vowels. then you will be able to check whether the rule is true or false,We''re trying to just figure out if the rule is followed. If we flip 8 it could have a consonant on it and the rule is still valid so I don''t think 8 is valid. We''re trying to just figure out if the rule is followed. If we flip 8 it could have a consonant on it and the rule is still valid so I don''t think 8 is valid.,I think it''s just A and 9. I think it''s just A and 9.,why 9? why 9?,If we turn 9 over and it shows a vowel then the rule isn''t valid. But if we flip it and it shows a consonant than the rule is valid. If we turn 9 over and it shows a vowel then the rule isn''t valid. But if we flip it and it shows a consonant than the rule is valid.,maybe you are right. maybe you are right.,F and 8 are irrelevant since we''re just trying to solve for the rule. F and 8 are irrelevant since we''re just trying to solve for the rule.,"9,A" ok,"9,A" "Dolphin,Lobster,Bat,Falcon","8,U,9,X" "8,U,9,X",Hey there all. I definitely think U needs to be flipped to make sure the other side has an even number Hey there all. I definitely think U needs to be flipped to make sure the other side has an even number,That''s my guess as well. That''s my guess as well.,I agree. Only U needs to be flipped. I agree. Only U needs to be flipped.,"So, ready to submit?" "So, ready to submit?","U,9" "U,9","U,9" Yes,U U,The rule is only concerned with cards with a vowel on one side. done,Pretty sure it''s 9 and U Pretty sure it''s 9 and U,U Why?,"@Dolphin What is your expectation for the other side of ""9""?" "@Dolphin What is your expectation for the other side of ""9""?",To confirm there''s not a vowel behind it To confirm there''s not a vowel behind it,"I like the idea, but couldn''t we just select all 4 for the same reason?" "I like the idea, but couldn''t we just select all 4 for the same reason?",I think it has to do with semantics. it doesn''t specify if a card with an even number should have a vowel or not I think it has to do with semantics. it doesn''t specify if a card with an even number should have a vowel or not,@Dolphin That is an excellent point. @Dolphin That is an excellent point.,"I agree, the rule is only about vowels, and U is our only vowel that needs to be checked." "I agree, the rule is only about vowels, and U is our only vowel that needs to be checked.","I agree with @Dolphin that we should check ""9"" and ""U""." "I agree with @Dolphin that we should check ""9"" and ""U"".",yeah yeah,ok ok,"U,9" If there''s a vowel behind the 9 the rule is broken. It has to be flipped,ok good point ok good point,If there is an even behind X then the rule is broken too If there is an even behind X then the rule is broken too,U The rule is only concerned with cards with a vowel on one side.,will just go with 9 and U will just go with 9 and U,an even behind X doesn''t break the rule an even behind X doesn''t break the rule,Agree with @Dolphin Agree with @Dolphin,"U is the 1st check, 9 is the second." "U is the 1st check, 9 is the second.",ok ready to submit? ok ready to submit?,yes yes,"U,9" ok i submitted 9 and U,yes "Hedgehog,Bat,Guinea pig,Alpaca","U,7,6,H" "U,7,6,H",I was just guessing honestly. But H and 7 don''t make sense to me to turn. I could be wrong though. I was just guessing honestly. But H and 7 don''t make sense to me to turn. I could be wrong though.,I chose 6 because i felt it was the most accurate way to check I chose 6 because i felt it was the most accurate way to check,"But if I turn U over, it may not be an even number." "But if I turn U over, it may not be an even number.",i chose H and 7 since a vowel should be on the other side of 6 and we know even is u i chose H and 7 since a vowel should be on the other side of 6 and we know even is u,And H may have an even number on its back. And H may have an even number on its back.,good call good call,right right,I chose H and 7 because the directions indicated that these needed confirmation. I chose H and 7 because the directions indicated that these needed confirmation.,to test the rule gotcha to test the rule gotcha,So what answer are we going with? So what answer are we going with?,That does make sense. That does make sense.,Let''s go with H and 7 Let''s go with H and 7,Your logic makes sense Your logic makes sense,okay sounds good okay sounds good,ok cool ok cool,sounds good sounds good,"7,H" "7,H",U "ok, I agree","7,H" U,"7,H" I think so.,"7,H" "Cat,Lion,Leopard","2,9,I,F" "2,9,I,F",I doubt there''s an even number on the other side of an odd-numbered card. I doubt there''s an even number on the other side of an odd-numbered card.,I thought I would need I and 2 since they apply to the rule I thought I would need I and 2 since they apply to the rule,I think I would be required to double check it. I think I would be required to double check it.,Then it would be I and F since both could have an even number on the other side? Then it would be I and F since both could have an even number on the other side?,Maybe just I since 2 could theoretically have any letter Maybe just I since 2 could theoretically have any letter,"Agreed, Cat." "Agreed, Cat.",I think it''s I and F. I think it''s I and F.,I don''t think F matters at all because it doesn''t tell us anything about excluding any other rules I don''t think F matters at all because it doesn''t tell us anything about excluding any other rules,I originally said I and 2 but I know think it''s just I I originally said I and 2 but I know think it''s just I,"Ah, I see. Yeah, the rule doesn''t mention consonants at all." "Ah, I see. Yeah, the rule doesn''t mention consonants at all.",It''s just looking for vowels. It''s just looking for vowels.,If you turned over the 9 and there was a vowel on the other side then wouldn''t that disprove the rule too? If you turned over the 9 and there was a vowel on the other side then wouldn''t that disprove the rule too?,Wow I think you are right Wow I think you are right,I guess I and 9 need to be turned over then since consonants are not an issue. I guess I and 9 need to be turned over then since consonants are not an issue.,"I agree, you do need to check 9" "I agree, you do need to check 9","Ok, I think I''m less confused now that we talked it over. I would''ve screwed it all up turning over the F for no reason, lol" "Ok, I think I''m less confused now that we talked it over. I would''ve screwed it all up turning over the F for no reason, lol",For once chatting actually helped me. I think 9 and I now For once chatting actually helped me. I think 9 and I now,Agreed. Agreed.,"9,I" "9,I","9,I" "Koala,Leopard,Kiwi,Dolphin,Tiger","5,2,A,Z" "5,2,A,Z","I tagged A, 2 and 5" "I tagged A, 2 and 5","Hello, I also said to flip over 5 and z" "Hello, I also said to flip over 5 and z","If all we are testing is that all vowels have even numbers on the other side, then all we need to see is the card that has a vowel on it. Every other card is meaningless." "If all we are testing is that all vowels have even numbers on the other side, then all we need to see is the card that has a vowel on it. Every other card is meaningless.",Well A will have even number Well A will have even number,"If that is true, yes." "If that is true, yes.",and 2 is even so it will have vowel and 2 is even so it will have vowel,It doesnt have to It doesnt have to,If we flip over the 2 and the 5 and they have consonents then we know the rule is wrong If we flip over the 2 and the 5 and they have consonents then we know the rule is wrong,It does not state that all even number are matched with vowells It does not state that all even number are matched with vowells,That''s why we need to flip those over That''s why we need to flip those over,A and 2 will show us if the rule is true A and 2 will show us if the rule is true,yes that is true yes that is true,I''m sorry I mean if we flip over 5 and it has a vowel I''m sorry I mean if we flip over 5 and it has a vowel,rule needs to be proven 1st rule needs to be proven 1st,What we need to do is What we need to do is,flip over A to show an even number flip over A to show an even number,flip over 2 to show a vowel flip over 2 to show a vowel,we do not need to flip the 2 we do not need to flip the 2,and flip over 5 to make sure it''s not a vowel and flip over 5 to make sure it''s not a vowel,Z is irrelevant because whether it is a vowel or consonent does not affect our rule Z is irrelevant because whether it is a vowel or consonent does not affect our rule,*even or odd number *even or odd number,@Tiger why don''t you think we need to flip the 2 @Tiger why don''t you think we need to flip the 2,It does not state that even numbers can ONLY be on vowells It does not state that even numbers can ONLY be on vowells,only that the vowels have to have even numbers on them only that the vowels have to have even numbers on them,that is the trick of this trick question that is the trick of this trick question,"Ah, you''re right" "Ah, you''re right",2 is like the Z then 2 is like the Z then,yep yep,A seems to be the consensus at least we just need A and 5,We need to flip a because we need to see if it it ture We need to flip a because we need to see if it it ture,I think that is the correct answer I think that is the correct answer,A and 5? A and 5?,as 5 would disprove the rule as 5 would disprove the rule,yep A seems to be the consensus at least,yes it would cancel it yes it would cancel it,I''m on board with A and 5 I''m on board with A and 5,OK we all agree then OK we all agree then,A and 5 sound good A and 5 sound good,A and 5 ok A and 5 ok,ok ok,locking A and 5 as answer... locking A and 5 as answer...,Yep Yep,me too me too,that is what Im clicking as well once the timer is done that is what Im clicking as well once the timer is done,"5,A" "5,A","5,A" "Ox,Zebra,Hamster","3,A,6,D" "3,A,6,D",what do you think? what do you think?,I choose Aand 3 I choose Aand 3,Would you mind sharing your reason behind your choices? Would you mind sharing your reason behind your choices?,A A,I think This is Good Decision I think This is Good Decision,"Ox, I also chose A. I also chose 6 though. I thought that if there is a vowel on the other side of 6, it would prove whether or not the rule was right" "Ox, I also chose A. I also chose 6 though. I thought that if there is a vowel on the other side of 6, it would prove whether or not the rule was right","Zebra, I''m curious as to why you chose 3. Would you mind sharing your thoughts behind it?" "Zebra, I''m curious as to why you chose 3. Would you mind sharing your thoughts behind it?","Right now it seems like we all only agree on ""A""" "Right now it seems like we all only agree on ""A""",On My Mind impressing The Numbers And The Same Time I thought this would prove it On My Mind impressing The Numbers And The Same Time I thought this would prove it,Your Decision its Well Your Decision its Well,Like Lot Like Lot,okay cool okay cool,"A,6" "A,6","3,A" "3,A","3,A" "Raven,Lobster,Emu","3,U,B,4" "3,U,B,4",Since the task states that each card has a number on one side and a letter on the other we can assume that to be true (as part of the rules) Since the task states that each card has a number on one side and a letter on the other we can assume that to be true (as part of the rules),"3,U" "3,U","3,U" 3 had to be tested to make sure it does not have a vowel on the other side. U has to be tested to make sure it does have a vowel.,Only 3 and U are then necessary to test. Only 3 and U are then necessary to test.,"3,U" testing 4 would already demonstrate the rule and testing B doesn''t matter because it isn''t a vowel.,sounds good sounds good,"I agree with lobster, and also am assuming that all cards have a number on one side and a letter on the other." "I agree with lobster, and also am assuming that all cards have a number on one side and a letter on the other.",At first I was going to add B but then reread the instructions to make sure they stated that cards have one letter and one vowel. At first I was going to add B but then reread the instructions to make sure they stated that cards have one letter and one vowel.,"Agreed, it would not matter what number B has on the other side since it cannot test the rule." "Agreed, it would not matter what number B has on the other side since it cannot test the rule.",okay then okay then,"3,U" 3 and U it is,"the 4 card can either have a vowel or consonant without ""breaking"" the rule. Even though a vowel could have an even number, a consonant technically could as well." "the 4 card can either have a vowel or consonant without ""breaking"" the rule. Even though a vowel could have an even number, a consonant technically could as well.","3,U" "Ox,Hamster,Lion,Lobster,Guinea pig","3,U,8,J" "3,U,8,J","U,J" "U,J",Hi all. So U is a vowel and 8 is an even number so either of those cards should work. Hi all. So U is a vowel and 8 is an even number so either of those cards should work.,yep yep,no it''s either 3 or J no it''s either 3 or J,"since if you do U or 8 and you get an even number or vowel, respectively, you don''t discover anything new" "since if you do U or 8 and you get an even number or vowel, respectively, you don''t discover anything new",you''re looking to disprove the rule you''re looking to disprove the rule,Yeah so if you want to disprove the rule J should have an odd number on the other side Yeah so if you want to disprove the rule J should have an odd number on the other side,"I think it''s 3, J wouldn''t tell you anything since the rule doesn''t mention consonants" "I think it''s 3, J wouldn''t tell you anything since the rule doesn''t mention consonants",whether J ends up being an even or odd number won''t tell you anything about the rule whether J ends up being an even or odd number won''t tell you anything about the rule,What do they mean by test the rule? What do they mean by test the rule?,see if it''s true or not see if it''s true or not,But also it says we''re testing the rule so don''t we want to find card that validates our claim not necessarily disproves it But also it says we''re testing the rule so don''t we want to find card that validates our claim not necessarily disproves it,What does everyone else think? What does everyone else think?,"we want to see if it holds true in all cases and if we find one card where it''s false, that disproves the rule" "we want to see if it holds true in all cases and if we find one card where it''s false, that disproves the rule",i''m on u or 8 i''m on u or 8,"assuming U and 8 follow the rule, we still don''t know whether it''s ever false or not" "assuming U and 8 follow the rule, we still don''t know whether it''s ever false or not",it could be that it''s false but just not in those cases it could be that it''s false but just not in those cases,so we need to try to disprove it and the only way to do that is with 3 so we need to try to disprove it and the only way to do that is with 3,why not all 3 why not all 3,Wouldn''t we just remove the U to prove it false? Wouldn''t we just remove the U to prove it false?,if we pick 3 only then we need a vowel behidn it to disprove it right if we pick 3 only then we need a vowel behidn it to disprove it right,yeah yeah,and if its not a vowel and if its not a vowel,then we dont know anything again then we dont know anything again,"we have a vowel, odd, and an even number" "we have a vowel, odd, and an even number",3 3,those all can play into the rule those all can play into the rule,ok why don''t we do all 3 then ok why don''t we do all 3 then,that works for me that works for me,"3,U,8" "3,U,8","U,8" "U,8","3,U,8" "Chipmunk,Beaver","E,5,D,4" "E,5,D,4",Well it''s pretty easy right? Just select the cards that have either and even number or a vowel. Well it''s pretty easy right? Just select the cards that have either and even number or a vowel.,that''s what I thought too but seems like maybe there is more to it. that''s what I thought too but seems like maybe there is more to it.,I wonder if all need to be selected? I wonder if all need to be selected?,Lol that''s what I was gonna say Lol that''s what I was gonna say,I think I''m gonna go with e and 4 I think I''m gonna go with e and 4,It seems the simplest It seems the simplest,"ok, that''s what I selected too." "ok, that''s what I selected too.",ok "Tiger,Alpaca","E,2,7,R" "E,2,7,R","E,2,7,R" E,Yeah ! you''re right. Yeah ! you''re right.,I think same as well. I think same as well.,What did you choose? Did you choose the same answer? I was debating with myself. What did you choose? Did you choose the same answer? I was debating with myself.,to what? to what?,To E To E,So you are thinking just E now? So you are thinking just E now?,Yeah sort of Yeah sort of,And why do you think that? And why do you think that?,And what about you And what about you,just randomly just randomly,"I am still thinking that flipping all the cards would result in knowing 100%.... I was thinking just flipping E and 2, but then I thought what if 7 had a vowel or R had an even number? I feel like the only way to be sure is by flipping them all. I think when it says ""select ONLY"", that might be a way to trick the brain into confusion. If it said ""ALL"" instead of ""ONLY"", I think it would make it easier to choose." "I am still thinking that flipping all the cards would result in knowing 100%.... I was thinking just flipping E and 2, but then I thought what if 7 had a vowel or R had an even number? I feel like the only way to be sure is by flipping them all. I think when it says ""select ONLY"", that might be a way to trick the brain into confusion. If it said ""ALL"" instead of ""ONLY"", I think it would make it easier to choose.",I am wondering if you have any thoughts against my theory? I am wondering if you have any thoughts against my theory?,Do you have any thoughts for or against my theory? Do you have any thoughts for or against my theory?,"E,2,7,R" "The thoughts that flipping all cards would show all the values/letters on each card and therefore it would 100% verify or deny the rule presented that ""All cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other.""","So the word ""ONLY"" has been used to try to trick/confuse us into thinking there will be less cards to select that all of the cards." "So the word ""ONLY"" has been used to try to trick/confuse us into thinking there will be less cards to select that all of the cards.",R u done with it can we click on final descision and submit R u done with it can we click on final descision and submit,What do you think? What do you think?,yeah ! MIGHT BE yeah ! MIGHT BE,And I would like to know what your logical thoughts are and work together as a team. And I would like to know what your logical thoughts are and work together as a team.,"E,2,7,R" "Kiwi,Guinea pig","8,U,9,F" "8,U,9,F","But if you wanted to do it in the least amount of cards, I would flip the 8 over to test if there was a vowel on the other side and call it good" "But if you wanted to do it in the least amount of cards, I would flip the 8 over to test if there was a vowel on the other side and call it good",Only verify the cards that follow the golden rule Only verify the cards that follow the golden rule,What''s the golden rule? What''s the golden rule?,"I see what you mean now. That maybe all cards with even have vowels on the other side, so your solution is best." "I see what you mean now. That maybe all cards with even have vowels on the other side, so your solution is best.","You could also flip over the U and see if there''s an even number on the other side, so it''s hard to know what to do" "You could also flip over the U and see if there''s an even number on the other side, so it''s hard to know what to do",Or flip the F and see if there''s an odd number Or flip the F and see if there''s an odd number,It almost makes sense to flip all the cards to absolutely make sure It almost makes sense to flip all the cards to absolutely make sure,I''m going to guess 9 u and 8 I''m going to guess 9 u and 8,That makes sense actually That makes sense actually,Because you don''t really need to flip the F if all of the other cards follow the rules Because you don''t really need to flip the F if all of the other cards follow the rules,"Lobster, do you have any guesses?" "Lobster, do you have any guesses?","Guinea Pig, I think I agree with your answer" "Guinea Pig, I think I agree with your answer","8,U,9" "8,U,9","Alright, I think I''m going to go with 9, U and 8 as my answer" Any last minute input from Lobster?,"8,U,9" "Alright, I think I''m going to go with 9, U and 8 as my answer","8,U,9" "Raven,Emu","5,S,8,A" "5,S,8,A","but I don''t know what should we do with ""S""" "but I don''t know what should we do with ""S""",any ideas? any ideas?,"since ""S"" is not a vowel" "since ""S"" is not a vowel","all the cards have a letter on one side and a number on the other, so 5 card won''t have a 2 on the other side" "all the cards have a letter on one side and a number on the other, so 5 card won''t have a 2 on the other side",we just have to turn A and 8 cards to test whether the rule is correct or not we just have to turn A and 8 cards to test whether the rule is correct or not,Then we get 5 8 S A? Then we get 5 8 S A?,5 card and S card don''t matter because they don''t fit the rule 5 card and S card don''t matter because they don''t fit the rule,"we are ""flipping"" the cards to the other side to check if the rule is correct" "we are ""flipping"" the cards to the other side to check if the rule is correct",I see what u mean I see what u mean,5 doesn''t matter and S doesn''t matter because they are neither vowel nor an even number 5 doesn''t matter and S doesn''t matter because they are neither vowel nor an even number,we should flip and see if A card has an even number on the other side we should flip and see if A card has an even number on the other side,and whether 8 card has a vowel on the other side and whether 8 card has a vowel on the other side,then 5 A S 8 then 5 A S 8,how does 5 and S fit the rule how does 5 and S fit the rule,5 has problem 5 has problem,5 is not an even number 5 is not an even number,"it doesn''t matter what it has on the other side, 5 is NOT AN EVEN NUMBER" "it doesn''t matter what it has on the other side, 5 is NOT AN EVEN NUMBER",it says all cards with vowels one one side it says all cards with vowels one one side,it''s just S it''s just S,and 5 and 5,S is not a vowel S is not a vowel,"8,A" "8,A",If we turn A and 8 If we turn A and 8,the problem is solved the problem is solved,we will get 5 8 S A we will get 5 8 S A,"the only card with vowel beside it is ""S""" "the only card with vowel beside it is ""S""",and it has 8 beside it which is even and it has 8 beside it which is even,"8,A" "Unicorn,Duck,Chipmunk,Hamster","U,9,Z,4" "U,9,Z,4",Interesting. I thought Z because U would have an even number attached to it Interesting. I thought Z because U would have an even number attached to it,My guess was to turn 4 and Z My guess was to turn 4 and Z,I concur with Hamster - that seems the logical choice. I concur with Hamster - that seems the logical choice.,Yea I''d say 4 and Z Yea I''d say 4 and Z,So we all agree on 4 So we all agree on 4,It''s just between U and Z now It''s just between U and Z now,I think 4 because it is even and Z because it is a consonant. I think 4 because it is even and Z because it is a consonant.,yes yes,I go with 4 only I go with 4 only,"So what should it be, any comments" "So what should it be, any comments",I''m fine with 4 only I''m fine with 4 only,4 4,4 "If everyone is fine with 4, I am too.",It''s worth a try - thanks It''s worth a try - thanks,4 Sounds good!,U U,Are we stating with 4? Are we stating with 4?,Yes Yes,How we we know it goes both ways - that an even letter will also show a vowel? How we we know it goes both ways - that an even letter will also show a vowel?,It says so on the task It says so on the task,"Not sure, but I think majority say 4, should we submit?" "Not sure, but I think majority say 4, should we submit?",I''d say submit with just 4 I''d say submit with just 4,"OK, will submit with 4" "OK, will submit with 4",4 sounds good..shall we submit our final?,4 "Puffin,Butterfly","B,2,7,A" "B,2,7,A",I think that the 2 and the A would be the only ones you would need to flip to verify I think that the 2 and the A would be the only ones you would need to flip to verify,Those are the only ones that have a specific rule that applies Those are the only ones that have a specific rule that applies,"yup that''s what I thought. And just for research purposes, my logic is that 2 is an even number and therefore has a vowel on the other side; while A is a vowel, which means that there''s an even number on the other side. I guess we are good to go on that logic then?" "yup that''s what I thought. And just for research purposes, my logic is that 2 is an even number and therefore has a vowel on the other side; while A is a vowel, which means that there''s an even number on the other side. I guess we are good to go on that logic then?",That''s exactly what I was thinking as well. That''s exactly what I was thinking as well.,Koala what do you think? Koala what do you think?,"so by the same logic, 7 is an odd number, which does not have a vowel behind it" "so by the same logic, 7 is an odd number, which does not have a vowel behind it",so that''s invalid so that''s invalid,"B is a consonant which has an odd number behind, so that''s why that''s invalid" "B is a consonant which has an odd number behind, so that''s why that''s invalid",we are good to go then? That''s if Koala doesn''t respond in a minute or so. Agreed? we are good to go then? That''s if Koala doesn''t respond in a minute or so. Agreed?,I do believe that would be correct. And you would have to flip over both the 2 and the A to see if they both follow the stated rule. I do believe that would be correct. And you would have to flip over both the 2 and the A to see if they both follow the stated rule.,exactly exactly,Because it is possible for one to follow the rule while the other does not. Because it is possible for one to follow the rule while the other does not.,yeah yeah,Which is why we would need to turn them both Which is why we would need to turn them both,"right, that''s good thinking" "right, that''s good thinking",Koala are you with us? Koala are you with us?,"2,A" "2,A","2,A" "Kiwi,Koala,Llama","E,5,N,8" "E,5,N,8",Technically we only need E right? Technically we only need E right?,but what about N and 5? but what about N and 5?,Maybe E and 5 just to make sure? Maybe E and 5 just to make sure?,I think E and 5 would be correct. I think E and 5 would be correct.,we would be able to test both rules we would be able to test both rules,N doesn''t matter the rule is about proving a even number is a vowel N doesn''t matter the rule is about proving a even number is a vowel,"E,5" "E,5","E,5" "ah, ok","5,N,8" "5,N,8","E,8" "E,8","E,5" I think the only question now is the 8.,We would be able to say that the 8 fits the rule because of E We would be able to say that the 8 fits the rule because of E,as long as E turns over a even number as long as E turns over a even number,don''t we have to confirm if 5 does not have a vowel? don''t we have to confirm if 5 does not have a vowel?,right and even if 8 is a constant the rule doesn''t mention the opposite right and even if 8 is a constant the rule doesn''t mention the opposite,Yes right now it''s e and 5 for certain Yes right now it''s e and 5 for certain,"E,5" I agree this is the answer,"E,5" "so, E and 5?",Yeah Yeah,cool cool. i agree as well cool cool. i agree as well,"E,5" "Butterfly,Zebra,Leopard,Duck","5,U,8,B" "5,U,8,B",I revised mine. If you test 5 and U then you will know if the rule is followed because it is the two parts that could be false Hello. I clicked on U and 8 to test whether the rule about even #s and vowels is true.,flipping the vowel flipping the vowel,"5,B" "5,B",Zebra what was your strategy? Zebra what was your strategy?,I chose the number card and theB I chose the number card and theB,"the rule was ""vowels have an even number on the other side:" "the rule was ""vowels have an even number on the other side:","So my initial thought is that you would need to turn and and u, but now that I think about it U would be the only one you need to turn right?" "So my initial thought is that you would need to turn and and u, but now that I think about it U would be the only one you need to turn right?",that was my thinking on it that was my thinking on it,I was trying to see if the other cards had the values too I was trying to see if the other cards had the values too,so you know that 8 has a vowel since it is even so you know that 8 has a vowel since it is even,yes believe you would need to test the 8 as well to make sure the rule applies yes believe you would need to test the 8 as well to make sure the rule applies,well technically you would need to turn all to test this theory out if you think abou it well technically you would need to turn all to test this theory out if you think abou it,"U,8" "U,8","5,U" Exactly,"correct, you''d want to ensure the 5 would be a consanant and the b would contain an odd number" "correct, you''d want to ensure the 5 would be a consanant and the b would contain an odd number","I see, to verify whether there is a number and letter on each. Good point!" "I see, to verify whether there is a number and letter on each. Good point!",I revised to check all... I revised to check all...,"5,U,8,B" Me too,I''m still unsure if I should check the 5 and b since they are not actually applying to the rule. I think I''m sticking with the 8 and u. We''ll see what happens. I''m still unsure if I should check the 5 and b since they are not actually applying to the rule. I think I''m sticking with the 8 and u. We''ll see what happens.,5 and U is the answer 5 and U is the answer,Those are the two that would check it to see if the rule applied Those are the two that would check it to see if the rule applied,Aren''t there 2 rules though? Aren''t there 2 rules though?,I have to make sure that the rule is followed with the eight and U I have to make sure that the rule is followed with the eight and U,I selected all I selected all,"5,U" "5,U",1. Each card has # and letter 2 Even cards have vowels 1. Each card has # and letter 2 Even cards have vowels,"5,U,8,B" I revised mine. If you test 5 and U then you will know if the rule is followed because it is the two parts that could be false,Im going to make that my final decision Im going to make that my final decision,I hope you all agree I hope you all agree,I am selecting all to test both rules. I am selecting all to test both rules.,"U,8" There is only one rule,and by selecting a uneven number to see the other side and a vowel and by selecting a uneven number to see the other side and a vowel,ok I see. ok I see.,if both of those show the rule is true then that proves it if both of those show the rule is true then that proves it,I am sticking with 8 and U I am sticking with 8 and U,ok... I think you are wrong but I am going to go with 5 and U. Those show the rule is correct ok... I think you are wrong but I am going to go with 5 and U. Those show the rule is correct,"U,8" "Koala,Bee,Duck,Falcon,Hamster","E,4,3,D" "E,4,3,D","Hello, what do you guys think should be the cards to pick?" "Hello, what do you guys think should be the cards to pick?",just flipping the vowels and the even numbers just flipping the vowels and the even numbers,"Hi, I believe you need E and 3." "Hi, I believe you need E and 3.",Why do you think 3? Why do you think 3?,"If 3 has a vowel on the other side, the rule doesn''t work." "If 3 has a vowel on the other side, the rule doesn''t work.",Wouldn''t that apply to D? Wouldn''t that apply to D?,"i think u flip the E to see if its even on the other side, and u flip the 4 to see if its a vowel on the other side" "i think u flip the E to see if its even on the other side, and u flip the 4 to see if its a vowel on the other side","I choose to turn over the card with a 4 on it as it is the only even number and if this card does not have a vowel on it, the rule would fall apart" "I choose to turn over the card with a 4 on it as it is the only even number and if this card does not have a vowel on it, the rule would fall apart",I tihnk you need to select E and 4. I tihnk you need to select E and 4.,the D and 3 are irrelevant i think the D and 3 are irrelevant i think,if d and 3 dont follow the rule we wouldnt know then if d and 3 dont follow the rule we wouldnt know then,the Rule is All cards with Vowels have an even number on the other the Rule is All cards with Vowels have an even number on the other,D and 3 are irrelevant to the rule D and 3 are irrelevant to the rule,in order to verify that you need to flip the E to see if the number ont he back is even and flip the 4 to see if there''s a vowel on the back in order to verify that you need to flip the E to see if the number ont he back is even and flip the 4 to see if there''s a vowel on the back,only cards with vowels and even numbers are relevant only cards with vowels and even numbers are relevant,"If 3 has a vowel, it makes the rule wrong." "If 3 has a vowel, it makes the rule wrong.",Would you be able to flip all of them? Would you be able to flip all of them?,theres no rule that odd numbers cant have vowels theres no rule that odd numbers cant have vowels,I agrre D and # are not relevant if we are to test even numbers and vowels I agrre D and # are not relevant if we are to test even numbers and vowels,the rule isnt mutually exclusive the rule isnt mutually exclusive,You don''t have to flip 4. The rule doesn''t say that cards with consonnant cannot have an even number. You don''t have to flip 4. The rule doesn''t say that cards with consonnant cannot have an even number.,d and3* d and3*,Okay so D doesnt matter then Okay so D doesnt matter then,TRUE TRUE,I agree with Koala. D and 3. I agree with Koala. D and 3.,"Sorry, E and 3." "Sorry, E and 3.",then its only E to flip then its only E to flip,no u flip E and 4 no u flip E and 4,I could see how 3 would work I could see how 3 would work,i see that u can be even and consonant i see that u can be even and consonant,flip only E flip only E,E E,Im gonna do E it makes sense but we are not looking outside the scope,Are we just ovetthinking it? Duck could be right if only flipping D Are we just ovetthinking it? Duck could be right if only flipping D,E Can we all agree on E for a start? Say E,yes flip E yes flip E,I choose to flip 4 originally. What did you all choose I choose to flip 4 originally. What did you all choose,my assumption was if the vowels have even numbers on the back then even numbers have vowels on the back my assumption was if the vowels have even numbers on the back then even numbers have vowels on the back,"It doesn''t say Even numbers are only for vowels, though." "It doesn''t say Even numbers are only for vowels, though.",but the 2nd part was the assumption and only E applies. but the 2nd part was the assumption and only E applies.,"there is no rule that even numbers cannot have consonants, and consonants and odd numbers are irrelevant. so to test it, we just flip the E" "there is no rule that even numbers cannot have consonants, and consonants and odd numbers are irrelevant. so to test it, we just flip the E",the rule only applied to ALL VOWELS not all even numbers the rule only applied to ALL VOWELS not all even numbers,yep only E yep only E,i agree with Falcon i agree with Falcon,"We have to flip 3, because we need to see if 3 has a vowel." "We have to flip 3, because we need to see if 3 has a vowel.",you dont have to flip 3 bruh you dont have to flip 3 bruh,"If 3 has a vowel, the rule doesn''t work." "If 3 has a vowel, the rule doesn''t work.",3 isnt relevant 3 isnt relevant,We need a consensus We need a consensus,I think E is definitely it I think E is definitely it,Its just E in my opinion Its just E in my opinion,its just E its just E,How do we need a consensus? How do we need a consensus?,E Im gonna do E,same same,validate why you think 3? "I put E and 3, good luck :)",same validate why you think 3?,We need to check if 3 has a vowel. We need to check if 3 has a vowel.,I could see that too I could see that too,"If so, not all vowels have an even number." "If so, not all vowels have an even number.",4 4,to check that all the vowels have an odd number to check that all the vowels have an odd number,the only yule to test is that vowels have an evenn umber the only yule to test is that vowels have an evenn umber,"E,3" "E,3","E,3" "If all vowels have an even number, that necessarily means that no odd number has a vowel.",ah I see where Hamster is coming from ah I see where Hamster is coming from,I''m leaning towards Hamster''s logic I''m leaning towards Hamster''s logic,Me too (lol) Me too (lol),or is that an assumption like the 4 having a vowel on the back? or is that an assumption like the 4 having a vowel on the back?,"No because, there is no rule saying that a consonnant cannot have an even number" "No because, there is no rule saying that a consonnant cannot have an even number","Vowel = even, Consonnant = both, Even = both, Odd= only consonnant" "Vowel = even, Consonnant = both, Even = both, Odd= only consonnant","E,3" "That''s why we need to check Vowels and Odds, meaning E and 3",eh what the hell why not eh what the hell why not,K i like hamters logic K i like hamters logic,"E,3" "Zebra,Lobster,Cat,Chipmunk","E,7,6,Z" "E,7,6,Z",no. it would be E no. it would be E,I think E and 6 actually I think E and 6 actually,It says you can select more than one answer It says you can select more than one answer,6 is incorrect. it does not state that it is reciprocal 6 is incorrect. it does not state that it is reciprocal,I think Cat is correct I think Cat is correct,have vowel/have even. not have even/have vowel have vowel/have even. not have even/have vowel,It does feel like E would be the choice It does feel like E would be the choice,"E,6" "E,6","Because it''s only stating ""all cards with vowels""" "Because it''s only stating ""all cards with vowels""","yes, E." "yes, E.",E E,E But wouldn''t you want to see if there was a vowel on the other side of 6?,All cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other. All cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other.,OK OK,it doesn''t matter. it doesn''t say all evven numbers have a vowel on the other side. it doesn''t matter. it doesn''t say all evven numbers have a vowel on the other side.,Vowel even/Even vowel Vowel even/Even vowel,"In real life, yes but this is just making a definitive statement about cards with vowels" "In real life, yes but this is just making a definitive statement about cards with vowels","Ok, I can see your point" "Ok, I can see your point",Even number cards have a vowel as the letter on the other side of the card Even number cards have a vowel as the letter on the other side of the card,it doesn not say that it doesn not say that,"Right, but his point is that it actually only specifies what is on the other side of a vowel card" "Right, but his point is that it actually only specifies what is on the other side of a vowel card",An even number card might have different rules An even number card might have different rules,Cards with the a Vowel letter have a even number Cards with the a Vowel letter have a even number,"That makes sense, but I think that''s the point of this exercise is to get us talking about his specifically" "That makes sense, but I think that''s the point of this exercise is to get us talking about his specifically",It only tells us what the rule is for vowels. It only tells us what the rule is for vowels.,Only one rule....vowels on one side have an even number on the other Only one rule....vowels on one side have an even number on the other,and to test the theory you have to turn both E and 6 and to test the theory you have to turn both E and 6,no you don''t. only E no you don''t. only E,it does NOT say even number cards have only vowels on the other side it does NOT say even number cards have only vowels on the other side,"That was my initial thought too, but I can see Zebra''s point that the only thing we know for sure is vowel cards have an even number" "That was my initial thought too, but I can see Zebra''s point that the only thing we know for sure is vowel cards have an even number",We don''t know the rule for even numbers We don''t know the rule for even numbers,If you only do E how do you know if all even number cards have vowels? If you only do E how do you know if all even number cards have vowels?,Even numbers might have a rule that says it will be either vowels OR consonants Even numbers might have a rule that says it will be either vowels OR consonants,all number cards don''t HAVE to have vowels all number cards don''t HAVE to have vowels,"You don''t, that''s the point. It doesn''t tell us that in the rule" "You don''t, that''s the point. It doesn''t tell us that in the rule",exactly exactly,So no matter how many rules you would still need to turn both cards to test the theory So no matter how many rules you would still need to turn both cards to test the theory,no. you don''t no. you don''t,"That having been said, I think an argument could be made to flip them both. But to test the actual rule, we only NEED to flip E." "That having been said, I think an argument could be made to flip them both. But to test the actual rule, we only NEED to flip E.",I can go with that I can go with that,"okay, all choose E and get that sweet bonus?" "okay, all choose E and get that sweet bonus?",E Let''s do it!,sounds good sounds good,Agreed Agreed,E "Duck,Giraffe,Guinea pig,Alpaca","E,2,9,K" "E,2,9,K",I selected k I selected k,"I selected the ""2"" and ""E"" cards" "I selected the ""2"" and ""E"" cards",2 2,@Duck that doesn''t make any sense I selected E because it said cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other,"The rule states ""All cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other.""" "The rule states ""All cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other.""",3 3,"Ok Duck, then why not ""2"" as well?" "Ok Duck, then why not ""2"" as well?",2 I am guessing you all selected 2 because of opposite,2 @Duck that doesn''t make any sense,"E,9,K" "E,9,K",it makes sense it makes sense,I mean 2 should have a vowel on opposite side I mean 2 should have a vowel on opposite side,Yeah Yeah,Is that write Is that write,"So, does that mean you change your answer?" "So, does that mean you change your answer?",@Alpaca Is that what? @Alpaca Is that what?,yes I will change my answer yes I will change my answer,"E,2" "E,2","E,2" I guess we all agree on 2 and E.,That''s gonna be my final answer That''s gonna be my final answer,Mine too. Mine too.,yeah agree yeah agree,mine to mine to,Giraffe? Still there? Giraffe? Still there?,"E,2" "Puffin,Koala,Ox","3,8,A,D" "3,8,A,D",Hi. I think you''d have to turn over at least the A and the 3 cards Hi. I think you''d have to turn over at least the A and the 3 cards,"If the rule is all cards will vowels have even numbers, that doesn''t exclue consonants from also having even numbers, so I wouldn''t see a reason to turn over D." "If the rule is all cards will vowels have even numbers, that doesn''t exclue consonants from also having even numbers, so I wouldn''t see a reason to turn over D.",zebra and koala - what about you? zebra and koala - what about you?,and the 8? and the 8?,I said A I said A,good point. Maybe you''d only need to turn over the A and the 3. good point. Maybe you''d only need to turn over the A and the 3.,"If the 3 has a vowel on the other side that would test the rule, I think" "If the 3 has a vowel on the other side that would test the rule, I think","3,A" "3,A","3,A" do we all agree on A and 3? zebra - what about you?,then will choose 3 and A? then will choose 3 and A?,let''s go with 3 and A let''s go with 3 and A,sounds good to me sounds good to me,Okay done Okay done,"3,A" "Giraffe,Llama","5,2,X,U" "5,2,X,U","Since the rule states that all cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other side , The only vowel out of the 4 cards is U . So i feel is the right card to test the rule" "Since the rule states that all cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other side , The only vowel out of the 4 cards is U . So i feel is the right card to test the rule",lets test it then lets test it then,does anyone one has a better opinion does anyone one has a better opinion,So we choose all cards except u right So we choose all cards except u right,Is that what we will choose to do Is that what we will choose to do,@Llama I think we should select the even numbers and the vowels that should be U and 2 @Llama I think we should select the even numbers and the vowels that should be U and 2,so just press 2 and U so just press 2 and U,Yea . Yea .,lets try it lets try it,"2,U" "2,U","2,U" "Cat,Ox,Llama","3,U,P,4" "3,U,P,4",yeah "I chose only ""U""",I was thinking the 4 was what was necessary because if the rule was true there would be a vowel on the other. But I guess that coud go for U as well. I was thinking the 4 was what was necessary because if the rule was true there would be a vowel on the other. But I guess that coud go for U as well.,Ahh true Ahh true,I chose both 4 and U because I feel like they were both relevant I chose both 4 and U because I feel like they were both relevant,"Well then I think 4 and U are the two cards because if one is wrong, then rule is proven wrong" "Well then I think 4 and U are the two cards because if one is wrong, then rule is proven wrong",Makes the most sense Makes the most sense,"U,4" "U,4",Now I''m thinking it should be all 4 of the cards to test the theory that it was ALL cards would follow that rule. we would have to check all 4 to see if it was true Now I''m thinking it should be all 4 of the cards to test the theory that it was ALL cards would follow that rule. we would have to check all 4 to see if it was true,I agree I agree,maybe my thought process is flawed thinking that but I think if the P had an even number or the 3 had a vowel it would verify or discredit the rule maybe my thought process is flawed thinking that but I think if the P had an even number or the 3 had a vowel it would verify or discredit the rule,"3,U,P,4" Yeah I can see that,yes because then the vowel or even muber would not have what it needed on the otherside yes because then the vowel or even muber would not have what it needed on the otherside,exactly what i was thinking. ok all 4 then? exactly what i was thinking. ok all 4 then?,"3,U,P,4" yeah,"3,U,P,4" "Puffin,Panda,Beaver,Duck","5,U,8,F" "5,U,8,F",which one did yall think it was? which one did yall think it was?,I went with 8 and U I went with 8 and U,F F,F and 5 F and 5,I just went with F I just went with F,well 5 is an odd number so I don''t know if there''s a vowel on the other side well 5 is an odd number so I don''t know if there''s a vowel on the other side,"5,F" "5,F",I said U I said U,Yeah i switched it to F and 5 Yeah i switched it to F and 5,so how would turning over F help? so how would turning over F help?,U U,turning over 5 might help it''s a consonant. Rule says vowel has number on other side. consonant may have not a number.,so how does that help prove the rule? so how does that help prove the rule?,"I think you need 8 and U. A vowel has an even, and an even has a vowel-so you need both to verify" "I think you need 8 and U. A vowel has an even, and an even has a vowel-so you need both to verify","I think F is irrelevant bc it''s not vowel or even #, it really doesn''t matter what''s on the other side of it" "I think F is irrelevant bc it''s not vowel or even #, it really doesn''t matter what''s on the other side of it",But does an even have to have a vowel? But does an even have to have a vowel?,Yeah now I think it is 8 and U Yeah now I think it is 8 and U,I think only a vowel has to have an even I think only a vowel has to have an even,but an even could hav ea consonant or a vowel but an even could hav ea consonant or a vowel,yes but you need the even to verify the vowel statement is correct yes but you need the even to verify the vowel statement is correct,"but it is meaningless, if you turn over the even and it''s a consonant that doesn''t disprove or prove the rule" "but it is meaningless, if you turn over the even and it''s a consonant that doesn''t disprove or prove the rule",but you can''t prove the rule without looking. you need both cards in conjunction with the other but you can''t prove the rule without looking. you need both cards in conjunction with the other,what is turning over the 8 proving? what is turning over the 8 proving?,you have to turn them all over you have to turn them all over,@Puffin why would that be @Puffin why would that be,"I think only the U needs to be turned over, it''s the only one that the rule would apply to" "I think only the U needs to be turned over, it''s the only one that the rule would apply to",yeah it''s probably only u yeah it''s probably only u,U Everybody for U?,yes yes,yeah u actually f u yeah u actually f u,no just u no just u,U I disagree. You can''t prove anything by just looking at U. It doesn''t show if there is an even or not.,@Panda so what do you think it is? @Panda so what do you think it is?,"U would show it is even or odd. If it''s even, it proves the rule. If it''s odd, it disproves the rule" "U would show it is even or odd. If it''s even, it proves the rule. If it''s odd, it disproves the rule","yeah it''s u, now that I read the instructions correctly" "yeah it''s u, now that I read the instructions correctly",Let''s get to a decision soon we''ve been discussing this for a long time Let''s get to a decision soon we''ve been discussing this for a long time,U turning over 5 might help,"I''m sorry, I just can''t only pick U when it doesn''t verify if there is an even or not an even." "I''m sorry, I just can''t only pick U when it doesn''t verify if there is an even or not an even.","if it''s a vowel on the other side, it would disprove the rule" "if it''s a vowel on the other side, it would disprove the rule",what if 5 has a consonant on the other side what if 5 has a consonant on the other side,"Doing that assumes it is correct, it doesn''t prove it." "Doing that assumes it is correct, it doesn''t prove it.",@Puffin yes @Puffin yes,so 5 and U so 5 and U,"5,U" "5,U","U,8" 5 and u not f u,@Puffin yes I agree 5 would be important too @Puffin yes I agree 5 would be important too,so 5 and u? so 5 and u?,@Beaver yes @Beaver yes,sure sure,"5,U" F and 8 are irrelevant,"5,U" "U,8","5,U" "Dolphin,Duck,Chipmunk,Alpaca","2,9,T,U" "2,9,T,U","No, U and 9" "No, U and 9",Why U and 9? Why U and 9?,"You need to prove the contrapositive, if there is an odd number, there is not a vowel on the back" "You need to prove the contrapositive, if there is an odd number, there is not a vowel on the back","2,9" "2,9","U,9" oh. Ok. That makes sense,"U,9" "U,9","U,9" "The rule doesn''t say anything about what''s on the back of a consonant, so T isn''t right.",I think only U I think only U,"It says only if there is a vowel, the back is even but not vice versa" "It says only if there is a vowel, the back is even but not vice versa","I''m now thinking T, U, 9" "I''m now thinking T, U, 9","No, if 9 has a vowel on the back, then ithe rule would be wrong" "No, if 9 has a vowel on the back, then ithe rule would be wrong","U,9,T" "U,9,T","It doesn''t matter what T has on the back, it doesn''t prove what vowels have on the back. Consonants could have even or odd numbers." "It doesn''t matter what T has on the back, it doesn''t prove what vowels have on the back. Consonants could have even or odd numbers.","If A, then B is the same as if not B, then not A" "If A, then B is the same as if not B, then not A","Chipmunk and Llama, care to chime in?" "Chipmunk and Llama, care to chime in?",I agree on U/9 I agree on U/9,"U,9" me too. I think,Can we submit now? Can we submit now?,"U,9" Now we can submit,"2,9" "Kiwi,Beaver,Cat,Raven,Hamster","R,2,9,A" "R,2,9,A",we need to flip both the vowel card and a card with an odd number we need to flip both the vowel card and a card with an odd number,I chose A and 2 also I chose A and 2 also,I agree with Cat I agree with Cat,2 is not necessary 2 is not necessary,"I thought it was for an even number, 9 is odd" "I thought it was for an even number, 9 is odd","If 2 flips and has a vowel, the rule is true. If 9 flips and has a even number, it doesn''t make the rule wrong" "If 2 flips and has a vowel, the rule is true. If 9 flips and has a even number, it doesn''t make the rule wrong",Right Hamster! Right Hamster!,it doesn''t say what needs to be a vowel. it only says on the other side of a vowel is a even number it doesn''t say what needs to be a vowel. it only says on the other side of a vowel is a even number,so then it would just be A so then it would just be A,but if you flip over a 9 and the other side is a consonant then the rule is false but if you flip over a 9 and the other side is a consonant then the rule is false,we will need to flip both A and 9 we will need to flip both A and 9,we''re trying to verify the rule we''re trying to verify the rule,"I guess A it is, it''s the only vowel" "I guess A it is, it''s the only vowel",Just because an even number has a vowel does not make it a rule. Just because an even number has a vowel does not make it a rule.,"yup, you will have to flip the 9 to confirm if the rule is false, what if the other side of the 9 is a consonant?" "yup, you will have to flip the 9 to confirm if the rule is false, what if the other side of the 9 is a consonant?",the A should have an even number to make it true the A should have an even number to make it true,Oh I see that makes sense. 9 and A I agree Oh I see that makes sense. 9 and A I agree,"So, Kiwi, it''s 9 then" "So, Kiwi, it''s 9 then",and the 2 should have a vowel to make it true and the 2 should have a vowel to make it true,A consonant can have an even number also A consonant can have an even number also,i guess that makes sesne i guess that makes sesne,"9,A" "9,A","9,A" Do we agree A and 9?,yes yes,"9,A" OK!,Yup Yup,Yes Yes,"9,A" "Beaver,Bee,Giraffe","5,L,E,4" "5,L,E,4",is it all of them? is it all of them?,what do we think what do we think,I originally though 4 & E but you may need the other ones to disprove it I originally though 4 & E but you may need the other ones to disprove it,yeah that''s what I''m thinking yeah that''s what I''m thinking,it doesn''t specify that other cards won''t be even numbers too in the rule it doesn''t specify that other cards won''t be even numbers too in the rule,ah yes true ah yes true,That''s very true That''s very true,does it matter whats on the other side of L and 5 does it matter whats on the other side of L and 5,but if say 5 had a vowel on the other side then not ALL card with vowels would have even if you get me but if say 5 had a vowel on the other side then not ALL card with vowels would have even if you get me,because it does say all because it does say all,Yeah Yeah,and E needs testing to check its an even number on other side? maybe not L?,because that could be even or odd? because that could be even or odd?,and it doesn''t specify all even numbers have a vowel on the other side and it doesn''t specify all even numbers have a vowel on the other side,How come not L? How come not L?,because even numbers can be both right? only vowels have the rule because even numbers can be both right? only vowels have the rule,so doesn''t matter what consonants have so doesn''t matter what consonants have,Oh right yeah Oh right yeah,i agree that L could be even or odd and that wouldn''t break the rule i agree that L could be even or odd and that wouldn''t break the rule,yeah what about 4 yeah what about 4,could that be both too? could that be both too?,Well you would need to see if there is a vowel on the other side Well you would need to see if there is a vowel on the other side,no no,i also think 4 could be a vowel or consonant i also think 4 could be a vowel or consonant,yeah sorry yeah sorry,i get it now haha sorry i get it now haha sorry,and that wouldn''t break the rule and that wouldn''t break the rule,yeah no i agree yeah no i agree,but if 5 was a vowel then it would but if 5 was a vowel then it would,so i think 5 needs testing so i think 5 needs testing,so 5 does so 5 does,yep yep,"But if there is a vowel on the other side then it would prove it, and by not including it were missing evidence" "But if there is a vowel on the other side then it would prove it, and by not including it were missing evidence",to check if it is or not to check if it is or not,i think as long as its not disproved i think its ok i think as long as its not disproved i think its ok,do we all agree that 5 needs testing or do we all agree that 5 needs testing or,yeah yeah,Yeah So what do we think overall then?,ok so 5 defo ok so 5 defo,and e? and e?,Yeah and E needs testing to check its an even number on other side?,i think 5 and e i think 5 and e,we happy with 5 and e we happy with 5 and e,yes yes,Sure Sure,"5,E" "5,E","5,E" "Hedgehog,Lion,Kiwi,Beaver,Cat","3,U,2,X" "3,U,2,X","3,U,2,X" I had picked both letters.,"I picked a vowel, an even number and an odd number" "I picked a vowel, an even number and an odd number",Hi I did not realize I could pick more than 1 Hi I did not realize I could pick more than 1,you picked 3 cards? you picked 3 cards?,But I could be wrong But I could be wrong,Is it wrong to pick all 4 cards? Is it wrong to pick all 4 cards?,I picked all four I picked all four,It says pick only the ones you need so idk if that precludes choosing all 4? It says pick only the ones you need so idk if that precludes choosing all 4?,It does state card(s) It does state card(s),I picked just the x I picked just the x,so it does so it does,"I think you can pick as many as you want, but don''t know if that''s correct" "I think you can pick as many as you want, but don''t know if that''s correct",Seems like it would make sense to choose all 4 Seems like it would make sense to choose all 4,I mean you''d definitely verify the rule that way.. I mean you''d definitely verify the rule that way..,I think its the only way to tell whether they truly have numbers and letters on each side. I think its the only way to tell whether they truly have numbers and letters on each side.,Sounds right to me Sounds right to me,"3,U,2,X" to me as well,It might be possible to pick fewer than four and still be able to find the answer It might be possible to pick fewer than four and still be able to find the answer,"3,U,2,X" Choosing just one or two doesn''t guarantee that the others follow the same rule.,Exactly but I agree that choosing all 4 should be right Exactly but I agree that choosing all 4 should be right,I think that is the best answer I think that is the best answer,I revised mine to all 4 I revised mine to all 4,"3,U,2,X" As did I.,"3,U,2,X" "The ""most people get this task wrong"" totally mind scrambled me lol","3,U,2,X" Ha Ha me too,"I''ll revise mine, too" "I''ll revise mine, too","Great, we are all on the same page then." "Great, we are all on the same page then.","3,U,2,X" "Puffin,Panda,Emu","E,8,C,3" "E,8,C,3","E,C" "E,C",I don''t think you need to flip over any cards to test the rule. I don''t think you need to flip over any cards to test the rule.,must be E right? must be E right?,"we only need to check the cards with vowels. none are there except E, so it has to be E" "we only need to check the cards with vowels. none are there except E, so it has to be E",Would it be E and 8? Would it be E and 8?,8 could have a consonant on the other side and it wouldn''t impact anything. 8 could have a consonant on the other side and it wouldn''t impact anything.,If we test the card with the vowel then we should test the card with the even number to make sure it has a vowel on it If we test the card with the vowel then we should test the card with the even number to make sure it has a vowel on it,it doesn''t state that all even numbers have a vowel. it just says all cards with vowels have an even number it doesn''t state that all even numbers have a vowel. it just says all cards with vowels have an even number,E E,E "Right, that makes sense","I was thinking the inverse must be true, but I guess that''s not the case" "I was thinking the inverse must be true, but I guess that''s not the case",E "Raven,Hedgehog,Dolphin","U,7,K,2" "U,7,K,2",I assume since vowels have even numbers I chose the vowel and the even number. I assume since vowels have even numbers I chose the vowel and the even number.,"U,7,K" "U,7,K",U "Seems sensible but, could it be trick question as well?","It only says all ""vowels"" have even numbers. It does not say all even numbers have vowels on the flip side. An even number could have a consonant and the rule would still be met" "It only says all ""vowels"" have even numbers. It does not say all even numbers have vowels on the flip side. An even number could have a consonant and the rule would still be met",U U,I don''t guess anyone else has any input? Ok you win I am with you on it.,OK! OK!,U I don''t guess anyone else has any input?,"U,7,K" "Narwhal,Hamster,Duck","5,U,8,D" "5,U,8,D","I chose the U card and the 8 card, does anyone have a different solution?" "I chose the U card and the 8 card, does anyone have a different solution?",I said U at first too I said U at first too,what about 5? what about 5?,I said D.5 and 8 I said D.5 and 8,Any reason it can''t be U Any reason it can''t be U,"Since we''re testing vowels and even numbers, it seems logical to pick the two cards that contain a vowel and an even number." "Since we''re testing vowels and even numbers, it seems logical to pick the two cards that contain a vowel and an even number.",what other card in addition to U what other card in addition to U,@Hamster - 8 @Hamster - 8,"U,8" "U,8",I think U and 8 I think U and 8,@Duck - I agree @Duck - I agree,to see if 8 has a vowel to see if 8 has a vowel,me too me too,anyone else? anyone else?,Yeah I think U and 8 should be the final answer. That''s what I''m going with. Yeah I think U and 8 should be the final answer. That''s what I''m going with.,I think so. I think so.,U U,"5,U" "5,U","U,8" "Narwhal,Bee,Giraffe","W,U,5,2" "W,U,5,2",agree that we only need 2 agree that we only need 2,nah we only need to flip one nah we only need to flip one,the U the U,why''s it only the u? why''s it only the u?,it doesn''t say anything about what can be on the back side of even numbers it doesn''t say anything about what can be on the back side of even numbers,"I thought the 5 too, bc we don''t know if there''s a vowel on the back" "I thought the 5 too, bc we don''t know if there''s a vowel on the back",I think we''re looking for something that can break the rule I think we''re looking for something that can break the rule,including the 5 makes sense including the 5 makes sense,i agree it makes sense to flip the U and 5 i agree it makes sense to flip the U and 5,yeah yeah,"yeah, I think that''s right" "yeah, I think that''s right",exactly giraffe. we already know that w doesn''t need an even number and it doesn''t matter if the 2 has a vowel or consonant exactly giraffe. we already know that w doesn''t need an even number and it doesn''t matter if the 2 has a vowel or consonant,"5,U" "5,U","5,U" "Panda,Koala","G,A,5,6" "G,A,5,6",so i chose the first two cards since are the only two cards with a vowel or even number so i chose the first two cards since are the only two cards with a vowel or even number,We also have to check the 5 card to see if there is a vowel or consonant on the other side. We also have to check the 5 card to see if there is a vowel or consonant on the other side.,i dont think the fourth card matters as its an odd number and the rule being tested is even numbers and vowel i dont think the fourth card matters as its an odd number and the rule being tested is even numbers and vowel,"Yes but if it is an odd number with a vowel on the other side, that proves the statement is false." "Yes but if it is an odd number with a vowel on the other side, that proves the statement is false.",yeah actually i think thats right my mistake yeah actually i think thats right my mistake,OK so let OK so let,"5,A,6" "5,A,6","5,A,6" "Puffin,Narwhal,Bee","7,4,A,D" "7,4,A,D",I have no idea on this. ANybody know the answer? I have no idea on this. ANybody know the answer?,I did the same I did the same,"7,D" "7,D",So that''s fact. Why D and 7?,"A,4" "A,4","A,4" I''m wondering if you need to turn them all over but turning over only D and 7 seems like the minimal amount to confirm.,"7,D" It''s stated that all cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other.,"7,D" So that''s fact.,We just need to confirm this with D and 7. We just need to confirm this with D and 7.,Alright. Makes sense Alright. Makes sense,"Puffin, Kiwi?" "Puffin, Kiwi?",but wouldnt we have to flip 4 and a to confirm as well since we dont know whats on the other side? but wouldnt we have to flip 4 and a to confirm as well since we dont know whats on the other side?,That''s what I''m wondering. That''s what I''m wondering.,The rule states that should not be the case. The rule states that should not be the case.,So maybe it''s just 4 and A? So maybe it''s just 4 and A?,Or all of the cards. Or all of the cards.,I''d for some input from Puffin and Kiwi. I''d for some input from Puffin and Kiwi.,"Well, D isnt a vowel, so its 4 and A I think" "Well, D isnt a vowel, so its 4 and A I think",I changed my answer because I decided it made more sense to check the other side I changed my answer because I decided it made more sense to check the other side,So check 4 and A? So check 4 and A?,I think that would be more reliable to check the actual rule I think that would be more reliable to check the actual rule,Yes Yes,"A,4" I agree.,Yeah. I agree as well Yeah. I agree as well,Yes we are not testing for anything other than that rule Yes we are not testing for anything other than that rule,"A,4" "Emu,Unicorn,Kiwi,Dolphin,Beaver,Duck","3,4,A,D" "3,4,A,D","A,4" "A,4",I don''t agree that just because you don''t tyrn over everything to disprove something doesn''t mean it isn''t true which cards did you guys select,I chose the vowel card I chose the vowel card,I chose 4 and A I chose 4 and A,I choose 4 and A I choose 4 and A,"3,A" "3,A","A,4" I chose A and 3,Hey. My assumption is to only turn over the even and vowels as those are the only cards in questions. Hey. My assumption is to only turn over the even and vowels as those are the only cards in questions.,But we''re also trying to prove the statement isn''t false But we''re also trying to prove the statement isn''t false,and the 4 card and the 4 card,That was my assumption but I see Unicorn''s point That was my assumption but I see Unicorn''s point,"A and 4 would only confirm that answer, not disprove it" "A and 4 would only confirm that answer, not disprove it",makes sense makes sense,I thought same way as Duck did I thought same way as Duck did,I chose 3 cards just to verify with the third one I chose 3 cards just to verify with the third one,Yes A and 4 can prove that. Turning over anything else doesn''t prove or disprove the statement Yes A and 4 can prove that. Turning over anything else doesn''t prove or disprove the statement,I do think that Unicorn has a point that we need to disprove as well I do think that Unicorn has a point that we need to disprove as well,"That''s wrong, Duck" "That''s wrong, Duck",3 sounds good too 3 sounds good too,If you need to disapprove too then wouldnt we have to check all 4 then If you need to disapprove too then wouldnt we have to check all 4 then,"No, we would only need one" "No, we would only need one",good point Dolphin good point Dolphin,D isn''t a vowel so we wouldn''t care about it D isn''t a vowel so we wouldn''t care about it,I see how A and 3 make sense I see how A and 3 make sense,It says l cards with a vowel on oneside have an even number on the other. It says l cards with a vowel on oneside have an even number on the other.,hmm A and three makes the most sense to me hmm A and three makes the most sense to me,We don''t care what odd numbers or consonants have We don''t care what odd numbers or consonants have,"starting lean 4, a, 3" "starting lean 4, a, 3",We only care about even numbers and vowels We only care about even numbers and vowels,"No, we are trying to test the rule" "No, we are trying to test the rule",Do we need to choose the three cards or just the A and 3 Do we need to choose the three cards or just the A and 3,How do we know 3 doesn''t have a vowel on the other side? How do we know 3 doesn''t have a vowel on the other side?,"3,A,4" "3,A,4",I think A and 3 fit best to test the rule We omly need 2,"3,A,4" I think A and 3 fit best to test the rule,I think so too I think so too,Turning over anything with a consonant or an odd number doesn''t test the rule Turning over anything with a consonant or an odd number doesn''t test the rule,But it does But it does,It doesn''t state anything else can''t have an odd number of consonant It doesn''t state anything else can''t have an odd number of consonant,There is no inverse statement There is no inverse statement,"So how do you know 3 isn''t a vowel on the inverse, thus invalidating the rule?" "So how do you know 3 isn''t a vowel on the inverse, thus invalidating the rule?",We need to turn 4 though to make sure a vowel is on the other side We need to turn 4 though to make sure a vowel is on the other side,I agree you have to verify that 3 doesn''t have a vowel on it. I agree you have to verify that 3 doesn''t have a vowel on it.,"If you only look at A and 4, you can''t confirm the rule is correct" "If you only look at A and 4, you can''t confirm the rule is correct",Verifying 3 doesn''t have a vowel doesn''t prove the statement Verifying 3 doesn''t have a vowel doesn''t prove the statement,It could disprove the statement It could disprove the statement,It could prove that the statement is wrong It could prove that the statement is wrong,"wait, to test rule you have to choose A, and then 4.If 4 doesn''t have a vowel on the other side..." "wait, to test rule you have to choose A, and then 4.If 4 doesn''t have a vowel on the other side...",We are testing that by flipping A to see if it''s even We are testing that by flipping A to see if it''s even,we don''t care about D or 3 we don''t care about D or 3,According to the statement consoants can have either even or odd. We don''t care According to the statement consoants can have either even or odd. We don''t care,Vowels must have even Vowels must have even,And how do you know that if you don''t flip 3 And how do you know that if you don''t flip 3,I am going with what Unicorn said A and 3. I think that A would verify and then 3 could prove that it is wrong. I am going with what Unicorn said A and 3. I think that A would verify and then 3 could prove that it is wrong.,The 3 isn''t even The 3 isn''t even,Exactly Exactly,So it proves nothing So it proves nothing,So if you flip it and it''s a vowel So if you flip it and it''s a vowel,The rule is wrong The rule is wrong,"3,A" "if you flip 4 and A and there are not an even number or a vowel, rule is wrong.","3,A" I agree that A and 4 are the only ones needed,The rule just mention even and vowels as well The rule just mention even and vowels as well,But the rule doesn''t say that But the rule doesn''t say that,"The rule says if there is a vowel on one side, there''s an even number on the other" "The rule says if there is a vowel on one side, there''s an even number on the other",It doesn''t say evens have to be vowels It doesn''t say evens have to be vowels,You''re not proving everything else wrong. You are proving tgis statement right You''re not proving everything else wrong. You are proving tgis statement right,"It says all vowels are even, but NOT that all evens are vowels" "It says all vowels are even, but NOT that all evens are vowels","A,4" Flipping the 4 proves nothing,It''s irrelevant It''s irrelevant,A and 3 A and 3,3 is irrelevant. Then just the A to compromise 3 is irrelevant. Then just the A to compromise,"No, it is not" "No, it is not","If you flip 3 and it is a vowel, the rule is broken" "If you flip 3 and it is a vowel, the rule is broken",Because all vowels are even per the rule Because all vowels are even per the rule,But why do you have to prove the inverse But why do you have to prove the inverse,You are proving that all vowels are even You are proving that all vowels are even,"If 3 is a vowel, the rule isn''t true" "If 3 is a vowel, the rule isn''t true",4 A 4 A,4 is irrelevant 4 is irrelevant,Doesn''t sound like there is a consensus Doesn''t sound like there is a consensus,Let''s explain this simply Let''s explain this simply,The rule is: All vowels are even The rule is: All vowels are even,do we have to come to a consensus? do we have to come to a consensus?,Obviously we need to flip A Obviously we need to flip A,Flipping 4 does nothing to the rule Flipping 4 does nothing to the rule,"If we flip 3 and it''s a vowel, the rule is wrong" "If we flip 3 and it''s a vowel, the rule is wrong",we need to verify that even 4 has a vowel we need to verify that even 4 has a vowel,And if 3 is a consonant what does it prove And if 3 is a consonant what does it prove,No we don''t No we don''t,It proves that the rule still stands It proves that the rule still stands,"Until you flip it, you can''t say with certainty that all vowels are even" "Until you flip it, you can''t say with certainty that all vowels are even","A,4" I don''t agree that just because you don''t tyrn over everything to disprove something doesn''t mean it isn''t true,You can''t definitively say it''s true You can''t definitively say it''s true,Because you don''t know if the 3 is a vowel or consonant Because you don''t know if the 3 is a vowel or consonant,Even if both follow the rule you cannot say its true Even if both follow the rule you cannot say its true,Yes you can Yes you can,Based on the sample Based on the sample,You just know these 2 followed the rule You just know these 2 followed the rule,That''s all that matters That''s all that matters,I don''t believe we have to have the same answers. We just have to discuss for at least five minutes. I am going with A 4 and submitting mine now. I don''t believe we have to have the same answers. We just have to discuss for at least five minutes. I am going with A 4 and submitting mine now.,A 3 is correct A 3 is correct,"3,A" "Koala,Llama,Giraffe,Narwhal","3,2,E,D" "3,2,E,D",I agreed with E as well I agreed with E as well,E E,E So E is the only answer needed. Consonants can also have even numbers,"OK, I agreed with E as well, but the rule says that all cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other, so wouldn''t it make sense to select the 2 as well to test that theory?" "OK, I agreed with E as well, but the rule says that all cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other, so wouldn''t it make sense to select the 2 as well to test that theory?",Okay E and 2 Okay E and 2,"No, that''s what makes it a trick question" "No, that''s what makes it a trick question","Ah, I see. So, the only way to test the theory is to flip the E. I see what you''re saying." "Ah, I see. So, the only way to test the theory is to flip the E. I see what you''re saying.","no 2, consonants are allowed to also have even numbers. We are only interested in vowels" "no 2, consonants are allowed to also have even numbers. We are only interested in vowels",yep yep,"Got it. Alright, so we''re all agreed on E then?" "Got it. Alright, so we''re all agreed on E then?",E Yea,We have to discuss for five minutes...so any other thoughts? We have to discuss for five minutes...so any other thoughts?,E "Tiger,Bee,Falcon","3,U,T,6" "3,U,T,6","I think it''s U and 6, if we''re looking for vowels and even numbers" "I think it''s U and 6, if we''re looking for vowels and even numbers",But under 3 might be a vowel as well But under 3 might be a vowel as well,and under 6 might consonant and under 6 might consonant,But it says that all cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other side But it says that all cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other side,twe need to prove this twe need to prove this,under T might be 10 for instance under T might be 10 for instance,and under U - 5 and under U - 5,I don''t think we need to check T because it''s not a vowel. And the rule doesn''t say that only vowels have even numbers. I don''t think we need to check T because it''s not a vowel. And the rule doesn''t say that only vowels have even numbers.,OK I agree with Bee OK I agree with Bee,"So we do need to check the other three, but not the T. That''s my thinking at least." "So we do need to check the other three, but not the T. That''s my thinking at least.","we need to check 3, 6, and U" "we need to check 3, 6, and U",I agree I agree,"3,U,6" "3,U,6","Wait, might be we don''t need to check 3?" "Wait, might be we don''t need to check 3?",The rule would say that under 3 would be a consonant The rule would say that under 3 would be a consonant,so what is our final decision? so what is our final decision?,I still think it''s U and 6 I still think it''s U and 6,OK OK,let''s do it. U and 6 let''s do it. U and 6,Sounds good Sounds good,"U,6" "U,6","U,6" "Lobster,Hamster","U,8,F,9" "U,8,F,9",can anyone convince me otherwise? can anyone convince me otherwise?,"I don''t think you have to flip them all, but I''m not sure. Can''t you just flip the letters?" "I don''t think you have to flip them all, but I''m not sure. Can''t you just flip the letters?","actually after re reading the instructions, i would guess you only need to flip the 8 card and the U card" "actually after re reading the instructions, i would guess you only need to flip the 8 card and the U card",9 is already odd so you dont need to flip that one 9 is already odd so you dont need to flip that one,"and F is a consonant, so that one doesnt matter either" "and F is a consonant, so that one doesnt matter either","U,8" "U,8","I thought that, but do we need to prove only that the vowels are even, doesn''t matter on the others?" "I thought that, but do we need to prove only that the vowels are even, doesn''t matter on the others?","well to see if ALL is true, i was thinking we might need to flip them all" "well to see if ALL is true, i was thinking we might need to flip them all",I can see flip the 8 to prove a vowel on the other and the U to prove it''s even? That makes sense to me I can see flip the 8 to prove a vowel on the other and the U to prove it''s even? That makes sense to me,"for example, if we flip the 9 and there is a vowel on the other side, than this would help us find out that it is not true" "for example, if we flip the 9 and there is a vowel on the other side, than this would help us find out that it is not true","Well that''s the thing it doesn''t say ONLY vowels are even numbers, right?" "Well that''s the thing it doesn''t say ONLY vowels are even numbers, right?","Ok, so the answer has to be that we need to flip 8 9 and U" "Ok, so the answer has to be that we need to flip 8 9 and U",So the F could be even but that wouldn''t matter cause that''s not part of the rule So the F could be even but that wouldn''t matter cause that''s not part of the rule,exactly exactly,"so the answer is 8, 9, U are the ones we need to flip" "so the answer is 8, 9, U are the ones we need to flip",No need to flip F since F being on one side takes it out of the rule No need to flip F since F being on one side takes it out of the rule,Right the 9 to prove it''s not a vowel Right the 9 to prove it''s not a vowel,"yea, so i take it you agree?" "yea, so i take it you agree?",right cause the F doesn''t factor in right cause the F doesn''t factor in,"so yeah, 8 9 and U" "so yeah, 8 9 and U","U,8,9" "U,8,9","U,8,9" "Zebra,Ox,Dolphin,Tiger,Bat","E,8,7,W" "E,8,7,W",Hi there!@ the answer is A or 7. Googled it Hi there!@ the answer is A or 7. Googled it,I''m not really good at these. Any ideas? I''m not really good at these. Any ideas?,7 7,W may be an even number in which the statement is false I''ll go with 7,7 Oops sorry the a or 7 was the example I looked up. Here I pickd 7 because E or 8 is merely confirming the rule and not disproving it.,I believe that you would have to select E and W-If E is even it supports the theory but if odd not true. If W is odd supports the theory but if even not true. I believe that you would have to select E and W-If E is even it supports the theory but if odd not true. If W is odd supports the theory but if even not true.,Yeah don''t pick W that is totally usless Yeah don''t pick W that is totally usless,7 I''m sticking with 7,7 7 seems right,same same,But if W were even it would disprove the statement But if W were even it would disprove the statement,7 Ya I think 7 is the answer,"No, It doesn''t say that Consonents can''t have an even number, gotta work with known info." "No, It doesn''t say that Consonents can''t have an even number, gotta work with known info.",what if 7 is a vowel what if 7 is a vowel,"Actually any of them will test the rule, but 7 seems the best solution" "Actually any of them will test the rule, but 7 seems the best solution",It disproves the rule It disproves the rule,I think you have to test more than 1 to be sure I think you have to test more than 1 to be sure,"im fine with ""7"" not going to think more than I have to on this." "im fine with ""7"" not going to think more than I have to on this.","We are testing the rule. That means disproving it, Like a science person" "We are testing the rule. That means disproving it, Like a science person",How does just flipping 7 prove the rule exclusively? How does just flipping 7 prove the rule exclusively?,I''m thinking maybe it should be 7 and W I''m thinking maybe it should be 7 and W,"Zebra, we areNOT trying to prove but disprove!" "Zebra, we areNOT trying to prove but disprove!",7 Any agreement?,I tend to think Bat''s input could work too I tend to think Bat''s input could work too,Why would it not be W? Why would it not be W?,"7 here too, im done." "7 here too, im done.",7 W may be an even number in which the statement is false,"I started with 7 and w, but tend to think the answer they are looking for will be only one of the cards." "I started with 7 and w, but tend to think the answer they are looking for will be only one of the cards.",If only vowels and even numbers are right wouldn''t it be the other two? 7 & W If only vowels and even numbers are right wouldn''t it be the other two? 7 & W,"W,7" "W,7",Does everyone agree with Zebra and I? We could test 7 and W,I can''t see why W wouldn''t work I can''t see why W wouldn''t work,I think it''s 7 & W I think it''s 7 & W,If the group wants 7 and W I will agree If the group wants 7 and W I will agree,I think there are 2 solutions I think there are 2 solutions,Sounds good to me Sounds good to me,whats the other one? whats the other one?,What do think Dolphin? What do think Dolphin?,E and W E and W,you think it''s E & W? you think it''s E & W?,I was thinking 7 & W I was thinking 7 & W,I think that if E is an odd number or W is a vowel we have a definitive answer I think that if E is an odd number or W is a vowel we have a definitive answer,But if 7 is a consonant and W is an odd number that is definitive too But if 7 is a consonant and W is an odd number that is definitive too,I see what your saying we should probably go with 7 & W I see what your saying we should probably go with 7 & W,Agreed! Thanks for sticking in there Bat Agreed! Thanks for sticking in there Bat,"W,7" Does everyone agree with Zebra and I?,"W,7" "Cat,Lobster","5,X,6,E" "5,X,6,E","I only clicked the E to verify the rule as the X"" isn''t a vowel""" "I only clicked the E to verify the rule as the X"" isn''t a vowel""",Good call. Did we all get the same series of numbers? Good call. Did we all get the same series of numbers?,I have 6X5E I have 6X5E,"So do I, and in the same order." "So do I, and in the same order.",What do you think? What do you think?,I think you did. I appreciate you clearing it up for me. I think you did. I appreciate you clearing it up for me.,Do we need to find out if Leopard has missing information? Do we need to find out if Leopard has missing information?,@Leopard What do you think? @Leopard What do you think?,@Leopard Dd you get the same series of information? @Leopard Dd you get the same series of information?,"So if we all click E we are in agreement, but we have a bit of a quandry with our silent team member." "So if we all click E we are in agreement, but we have a bit of a quandry with our silent team member.",I think my solution is correct but I would like @Leopard to verify what he thinks I think my solution is correct but I would like @Leopard to verify what he thinks,I think that''s a great plan. How long do we want to give them? I think that''s a great plan. How long do we want to give them?,Oof. Sounds good. Oof. Sounds good.,Does my logic make sense to you? with my answer? Does my logic make sense to you? with my answer?,It totally does. I feel silly not having caught it. I''m usually on my game. It totally does. I feel silly not having caught it. I''m usually on my game.,"Yeah I agree, it would have been nice to have more confirmation" "Yeah I agree, it would have been nice to have more confirmation",E E,E "Leopard,Falcon","E,5,V,4" "E,5,V,4",i think we need to make sure that the 4 has a vowel and that the 5 does not i think we need to make sure that the 4 has a vowel and that the 5 does not,V i dont think matters because were not asked about what is on the opposite side of consonants V i dont think matters because were not asked about what is on the opposite side of consonants,ah I see the logic now ah I see the logic now,So as long as the 5 doesn''t have a consonant So as long as the 5 doesn''t have a consonant,and there''s an even number on the other side of E and there''s an even number on the other side of E,"I feel like 4 doesn''t matter though, because the rule could still be true if there was a consonant on the other side of 4?" "I feel like 4 doesn''t matter though, because the rule could still be true if there was a consonant on the other side of 4?",yeah actually that sounds right yeah actually that sounds right,"E,5" "E,5",so E and 5? i cant think of any reason we wouldnt need to check those so E and 5? i cant think of any reason we wouldnt need to check those,"E,5" "Hedgehog,Unicorn,Raven,Hamster","3,A,K,6" "3,A,K,6",I chose the 6 card. And you? I chose the 6 card. And you?,"I chose the A card, since it was the only vowel" "I chose the A card, since it was the only vowel",A A,Did everyone select A and 3? I chose card A,"It doesn''t matter what is on the other side of the ""6."" It could be a consonant or a vowel and the rule ""All cards with vowels on the other side have an even number on the other"" is still valid." "It doesn''t matter what is on the other side of the ""6."" It could be a consonant or a vowel and the rule ""All cards with vowels on the other side have an even number on the other"" is still valid.",It was the onl vowel It was the onl vowel,That was my rationale as well That was my rationale as well,That does make sense. That does make sense.,"We need to check the ""A"" and the ""3"" to determine if the rule holds. The ""K"" and the ""6"" are irrelevant." "We need to check the ""A"" and the ""3"" to determine if the rule holds. The ""K"" and the ""6"" are irrelevant.","3,A" "3,A","3,A" "So if the A does in fact have an even number on the back, the 3 could still be used to test it, if it has a vowel on the back.","3,A" Did everyone select A and 3?,Your logic does make sense. I selected A and 3 as well. Your logic does make sense. I selected A and 3 as well.,"3,A" "Chipmunk,Beaver,Giraffe","5,8,V,A" "5,8,V,A",Why is that? Why is that?,It''s only A and 5 It''s only A and 5,All cards with vowels have an even number All cards with vowels have an even number,So V is already out So V is already out,I went with A and 5 as well. I went with A and 5 as well.,What happens if 8 has a vowel on the other side? What happens if 8 has a vowel on the other side?,Yes. It doesn''t matter what''s on the other side of the 8 or the V. Yes. It doesn''t matter what''s on the other side of the 8 or the V.,It does matter what''s on the other side of 8 It does matter what''s on the other side of 8,We are testing the rule We are testing the rule,It doesn''t say that all even numbers have a vowel on the other side It doesn''t say that all even numbers have a vowel on the other side,Same with the V. Flipping it wouldn''t prove anything Same with the V. Flipping it wouldn''t prove anything,I agree with V I agree with V,What if there is a vowel on the other side of 8 What if there is a vowel on the other side of 8,I thought we should only test the vowels since it was a condition mentioned. I thought we should only test the vowels since it was a condition mentioned.,It doesn''t matter It doesn''t matter,"That would disprove what we are testing, correct?" "That would disprove what we are testing, correct?","If 8 is not a vowel, it wouldn''t matter." "If 8 is not a vowel, it wouldn''t matter.",The rule is that all vowels have an even number on the other side. The rule is that all vowels have an even number on the other side.,And we are supposed to test that rule And we are supposed to test that rule,"If V had an even number, it also wouldn''t matter" "If V had an even number, it also wouldn''t matter",I agree on V I agree on V,But we need to flip 8 But we need to flip 8,The only two cards necessary are the A and the 5. The only two cards necessary are the A and the 5.,"If the A is an odd number, it would disprove the rule." "If the A is an odd number, it would disprove the rule.",Sure Sure,"If the 5 is a vowel, it would also disprove the rule." "If the 5 is a vowel, it would also disprove the rule.",I agree we only need to test the rules mentioned. I agree we only need to test the rules mentioned.,The other two would do nothing. The other two would do nothing.,It doesn''t matter what''s on the other side of the 8 or the V. It doesn''t matter what''s on the other side of the 8 or the V.,It absolutely matters what is on the 8 It absolutely matters what is on the 8,How? How?,Why? Why?,"Because if it''s a vowel, it disproves the rule that we are supposed to be testing" "Because if it''s a vowel, it disproves the rule that we are supposed to be testing",The V is irrelevant because we already know it''s not a vowel so it''s not part of the rule The V is irrelevant because we already know it''s not a vowel so it''s not part of the rule,All vowels have an even number on the other side. All vowels have an even number on the other side.,We are supposed to test the rule We are supposed to test the rule,8 is an even number. 8 is an even number.,"If it''s a vowel, it confirms the rule. If ot" "If it''s a vowel, it confirms the rule. If ot","If it''s not a vowel, it means nothing." "If it''s not a vowel, it means nothing.","If it''s not a vowel, then the rule is disproven" "If it''s not a vowel, then the rule is disproven",No. No.,The rule doesn''t apply to non-vowels. The rule doesn''t apply to non-vowels.,We already know 8 is a vowel though. We already know 8 is a vowel though.,It says simply if it''s a vowel. It says simply if it''s a vowel.,We don''t know that 8 is a vowel We don''t know that 8 is a vowel,Because the rule is being tested Because the rule is being tested,You are taking it as a point of fact and that''s not the purpose of this exercise You are taking it as a point of fact and that''s not the purpose of this exercise,Suppose we flip the V and it''s an even number. Would that matter? Suppose we flip the V and it''s an even number. Would that matter?,Flipping V wouldn''t matter at all Flipping V wouldn''t matter at all,Nothing has been mentioned about non-vowels Nothing has been mentioned about non-vowels,"If it''s even or odd, it wouldn''t matter. Same with the 8. Whatever the letter is, it doesn''t matter." "If it''s even or odd, it wouldn''t matter. Same with the 8. Whatever the letter is, it doesn''t matter.","5,8,A" "5,8,A","5,A" "5,A","5,A" "Chipmunk,Hamster","R,7,E,4" "R,7,E,4",I picked 4 and E. What did everyone else pick? I picked 4 and E. What did everyone else pick?,I did as well. I did as well.,Beaver are yiu still here? Beaver are yiu still here?,I think 4 and E are the only cards to test the rule I think 4 and E are the only cards to test the rule,It''s seems the most logical choice. It''s seems the most logical choice.,"I can''t really make a case for the other two cards, can you?" "I can''t really make a case for the other two cards, can you?",No. Unless the rule isn''t ironclad i.e. a consonant can contain an even number. No. Unless the rule isn''t ironclad i.e. a consonant can contain an even number.,"But, I''m sticking with 4 & E." "But, I''m sticking with 4 & E.",Agreed. I think 4 and E as well. Agreed. I think 4 and E as well.,"E,4" "E,4","E,4" "Lion,Bat,Leopard","3,2,I,R" "3,2,I,R",I flipped 2 I flipped 2,2 and i 2 and i,why 2 why 2,2 is an even number so you can see whether the other side of the card has vowel on it 2 is an even number so you can see whether the other side of the card has vowel on it,"For me the rule didn’t make sense, I was wanting to get the most vowels as possible, no particular logic" "For me the rule didn’t make sense, I was wanting to get the most vowels as possible, no particular logic","surely 2 card doesnt matter cause because its not ""all"" even numbers but it is all vowles" "surely 2 card doesnt matter cause because its not ""all"" even numbers but it is all vowles",so it wouldnt matter what was on the other side....? so it wouldnt matter what was on the other side....?,I think the rule is the card has to have vowel one side and even number on the other. I think the rule is the card has to have vowel one side and even number on the other.,2 does matter because it is an even number 2 does matter because it is an even number,i dont think that is what the rule is saying i dont think that is what the rule is saying,"I’m still going with turning the number that was the even, just to get as many vowels as possible, using that as my own rule" "I’m still going with turning the number that was the even, just to get as many vowels as possible, using that as my own rule",all vowles have to have even numbers on the other side but not necesasrily all evn numbers have to have a vowel on the other side all vowles have to have even numbers on the other side but not necesasrily all evn numbers have to have a vowel on the other side,oh so you would only flip I oh so you would only flip I,so we ae in agreement to ignore the R card so we ae in agreement to ignore the R card,@Leopard I think you are right because you have to check if the vowels have even not the even have vowels on the other side @Leopard I think you are right because you have to check if the vowels have even not the even have vowels on the other side,"‘I’ could be flippable, but there’s already a vowel so I’m not checking for an even number, so I’ve satisfied myself with that" "‘I’ could be flippable, but there’s already a vowel so I’m not checking for an even number, so I’ve satisfied myself with that",yes ignore the R yes ignore the R,@bat @Bat yeah thats what i mena @bat @Bat yeah thats what i mena,Ignore the R Ignore the R,So the only card we would flip is ''i'' So the only card we would flip is ''i'',@Lion but we dont know what is on the other side of I @Lion but we dont know what is on the other side of I,I’m still flipping that 2 just for my own pride I’m still flipping that 2 just for my own pride,but why but why,do you have logic for doing so? do you have logic for doing so?,Because I want to verify the rule that there is a vowel behind it Because I want to verify the rule that there is a vowel behind it,but it would make sense to falsfiy the rule by flipping 3 but it would make sense to falsfiy the rule by flipping 3,but the rule is say with the vowel card there is even number on the other side but the rule is say with the vowel card there is even number on the other side,as if 3 had a vowel it woulfd be incorrect as if 3 had a vowel it woulfd be incorrect,"Yes but I am not fussed if it’s incorrect if I can’t see it, I’m not looking to disprove the rule I’m looking to prove" "Yes but I am not fussed if it’s incorrect if I can’t see it, I’m not looking to disprove the rule I’m looking to prove",FINAL ANSWER 2 FINAL ANSWER 2,what about i what about i,That’s a vowel that can stay That’s a vowel that can stay,"I’m looking for vowels, I hope not" "Zebra,Guinea pig,Bee","5,U,P,4" "5,U,P,4",hello all. I think it should be the 4 and U cards hello all. I think it should be the 4 and U cards,"Well, I''m just curious as to what choices the others have made." "Well, I''m just curious as to what choices the others have made.",I think just the opposite actually. I think the P and 5 I think just the opposite actually. I think the P and 5,"I suppose to prove the rule you would have to turn over all cards. But just testing it, turning over U would test both conditions" "I suppose to prove the rule you would have to turn over all cards. But just testing it, turning over U would test both conditions",All cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other All cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other,"I think either U4 or P5, but not a mix of those cards" "I think either U4 or P5, but not a mix of those cards","So if U has an even number, that would test both conditions" "So if U has an even number, that would test both conditions",Looking on the other side of the odd number and the consonent would find out if thats true Looking on the other side of the odd number and the consonent would find out if thats true,"Gotcha, so just U" "Gotcha, so just U",U U,"We already see a vowel and an even number, so check the consonent and odd number?" "We already see a vowel and an even number, so check the consonent and odd number?",It doesnt have to be just one card It doesnt have to be just one card,"But I think it has to be the U because it doesn''t say that all even numbers have a vowel on the back, just that vowels have an even number, so we need to test that" "But I think it has to be the U because it doesn''t say that all even numbers have a vowel on the back, just that vowels have an even number, so we need to test that","True, but they said select ONLY what is needed to verify the rule" "True, but they said select ONLY what is needed to verify the rule","No, Bee, I do not think that is the case. I think its just in the wording." "No, Bee, I do not think that is the case. I think its just in the wording.","My question is, how complete is ""verify"" and ""test?"" I think just the U would verify both propositions but would not ""prove"" them." "My question is, how complete is ""verify"" and ""test?"" I think just the U would verify both propositions but would not ""prove"" them.",remember we can choose multiple cards remember we can choose multiple cards,"Well, I suppose we could say all 4 cards, but that seems to easy" "Well, I suppose we could say all 4 cards, but that seems to easy",I dont think you need all the cards though. ONLY is in bold I dont think you need all the cards though. ONLY is in bold,"Well, now Im thinking it needs to either be U and P Or 4 and 5" "Well, now Im thinking it needs to either be U and P Or 4 and 5",Because We actually need to see if there are letters on one side and numbers on the other. Because We actually need to see if there are letters on one side and numbers on the other.,Are we not actually suppose to test that theory. Are we not actually suppose to test that theory.,Can we just go with U4 Can we just go with U4,"exactly Bee. I think either just the U, or all 4. GP, what is your reasoning for choosing another in addition to U?" "exactly Bee. I think either just the U, or all 4. GP, what is your reasoning for choosing another in addition to U?",We need to see if there are all letters on one side and all numbers on the other We need to see if there are all letters on one side and all numbers on the other,If we are going with two I would go with U5 or P4. If we are going with two I would go with U5 or P4.,U5 works. can we all agree U5 works. can we all agree,"5,U" "5,U","U,P" I''m okay with that.,Guinea? U5? Guinea? U5?,I dont because We need to see if there are all numbers on one side and all letters on the other I dont because We need to see if there are all numbers on one side and all letters on the other,So I personally think it needs to be either both letters or both numbers. So I personally think it needs to be either both letters or both numbers.,But we already know that on this one side there are some letters and some numbers...I''m not sure what you mean GP But we already know that on this one side there are some letters and some numbers...I''m not sure what you mean GP,I''m hitting U5 and seeing what happens as a Final Decision...you all okay with that? I''m hitting U5 and seeing what happens as a Final Decision...you all okay with that?,"yes, im good with U5" "yes, im good with U5","5,U" GP...can we compromise and go with this?,We dont actually have to give the same answer. am I not correct? We dont actually have to give the same answer. am I not correct?,I guess not I guess not,well im going with U5 well im going with U5,I am too I am too,"5,U" Im going with UP,"5,U" "Ox,Kiwi,Bat,Hamster","5,2,A,K" "5,2,A,K",Correct option Correct option,Why not jut the A card? Why not jut the A card?,We must confirm the ''5'' isn''t opposite of a vowel and that the ''A'' has an even number on its opposite side. We must confirm the ''5'' isn''t opposite of a vowel and that the ''A'' has an even number on its opposite side.,makes sense makes sense,Do we all agree? Do we all agree?,"I agree, obviously." "I agree, obviously.",Does that mean that cards with an even number necessarily have a vowel on the other side? All cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other...but do all cards with even numbers have a vowel on the other? Anyone has a different point of view?,"I agree, obviously." Does that mean that cards with an even number necessarily have a vowel on the other side? All cards with vowels on one side have an even number on the other...but do all cards with even numbers have a vowel on the other?,No @Ox No @Ox,@Hamster The logic does not go both ways. We don''t have to care what is opposite the ''2'' since it''s fine being a consonant then. @Hamster The logic does not go both ways. We don''t have to care what is opposite the ''2'' since it''s fine being a consonant then.,Why would we check the 5 card then? Why would we check the 5 card then?,Locking in 5 and A. Locking in 5 and A.,A A,"5,A" "5,A",I locked in both 2 and A @Hamster Need to confirm a vowel is not behind the 5,"5,A" I locked in both 5 and A.,"5,A"