Question: i think obamacare has exposed an interesting tension between controlling costs in the system and controlling economic pain for individuals. the law has, until now, come under budget. but the way it’s done that is higher deductibles than people expected, higher copays, narrower networks; in a couple of years, the excise tax on high-value insurance will come into play, the individual mandate. these things to individual people while they keep the usage of health care down, they make health care feel more expensive and they make health care feel unusual. do you think the affordable care act got the balance right between controlling system-wide costs and insulating individuals from their health expenses?
Answer: first of all, let me make a couple of distinctions. part of what happened at the beginning of the marketplaces — and for those who aren’t wonks, i was teasing ezra and sarah, i was saying that this is like a “wonkapalooza.” this is some serious policy detail. the marketplaces are where the insurance companies put up the insurance package we’re offering. you can choose from a variety of different packages; once you’ve chosen, you can figure out the subsidies you’re qualified for, and it will give you a sense of your out-of-pocket costs. what we discovered was that a lot of insurers underpriced, early on, because they had done surveys. and look, people purchasing health insurance are like everybody else — they want the best deal for the lowest price. what makes purchasing health insurance tricky is that when you buy a tv, you can kind of see what the picture looks like; when you’re buying health insurance, it’s tempting to buy the cheapest thing until, heaven forbid, you get sick and it turns out, gosh, i can’t see the doctor i want, or the specialist i want, or this is more inconvenient than i expected. so what ended up happening was people bought, oftentimes, the cheapest insurance they could. insurance companies wanting to get as much market share as possible ended up creating very low-cost plans. but those are going to have restrictions on them — that’s not just if you’re buying health insurance in obamacare; that’s generally how it is even when employers buy health insurance for their employees. now, i think that what we’re seeing is insurers making adjustments, saying, “okay, we need to charge more.” and that is something that, the good news is, appears to — may have stabilized might be kind of a one-time thing, and now we're in a position to be able to do an evaluation of have we gotten this balance right, as you say. we can’t get health care for free. you’re going to have to pay for it one way or another. either the government will pay more, so people don’t have as many out-of-pocket costs — and that means, in some fashion, higher taxes for somebody — or individuals will have to pay more out of pocket, in one way or another. the same is true for employers. either employers pay more for a really good health care package, but that takes something out of the employers’ bottom line, or they’re putting more onto the workers in the form of higher deductibles and higher copays. and i think that a lot of the good work that can be done in lowering costs had to do not with cost shifting but with actually making the system work better. and we’ve done a lot of work on that. what i referred to earlier — incentivizing a system where instead of ordering five tests because doctors and providers are getting paid for the test, you now have a system where you’re going to get reimbursed if the person gets healthy quicker and doesn’t return to the hospital. well, it turns out that that can, over time, be a real cost reduction. those are the kinds of things we’re implementing in the system as a result of obamacare. the more we do that kind of stuff, the less we’re going to see this cost shifting. but the intention has never been: let’s make it more expensive for people to get health care, so they can access the system more. and i think the proof of that is that even though per-person costs have not gone up a lot, the overall spending on health care has, because more people have come into the system. we want people to use the health care system — just not in the emergency room. we want people to stay healthy, and smoking cessation plans, and making sure they’re getting regular check-ups, and mammograms — those are the things that will save us as much money as we can.
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  i think obamacare has exposed an interesting tension between controlling costs in the system and controlling economic pain for individuals. the law has, until now, come under budget. but the way it’s done that is higher deductibles than people expected, higher copays, narrower networks; in a couple of years, the excise tax on high-value insurance will come into play, the individual mandate. these things to individual people while they keep the usage of health care down, they make health care feel more expensive and they make health care feel unusual. do you think the affordable care act got the balance right between controlling system-wide costs and insulating individuals from their health expenses?
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  first of all, let me make a couple of distinctions. part of what happened at the beginning of the marketplaces — and for those who aren’t wonks, i was teasing ezra and sarah, i was saying that this is like a “wonkapalooza.” this is some serious policy detail. the marketplaces are where the insurance companies put up the insurance package we’re offering. you can choose from a variety of different packages; once you’ve chosen, you can figure out the subsidies you’re qualified for, and it will give you a sense of your out-of-pocket costs. what we discovered was that a lot of insurers underpriced, early on, because they had done surveys. and look, people purchasing health insurance are like everybody else — they want the best deal for the lowest price. what makes purchasing health insurance tricky is that when you buy a tv, you can kind of see what the picture looks like; when you’re buying health insurance, it’s tempting to buy the cheapest thing until, heaven forbid, you get sick and it turns out, gosh, i can’t see the doctor i want, or the specialist i want, or this is more inconvenient than i expected. so what ended up happening was people bought, oftentimes, the cheapest insurance they could. insurance companies wanting to get as much market share as possible ended up creating very low-cost plans. but those are going to have restrictions on them — that’s not just if you’re buying health insurance in obamacare; that’s generally how it is even when employers buy health insurance for their employees. now, i think that what we’re seeing is insurers making adjustments, saying, “okay, we need to charge more.” and that is something that, the good news is, appears to — may have stabilized might be kind of a one-time thing, and now we're in a position to be able to do an evaluation of have we gotten this balance right, as you say. we can’t get health care for free. you’re going to have to pay for it one way or another. either the government will pay more, so people don’t have as many out-of-pocket costs — and that means, in some fashion, higher taxes for somebody — or individuals will have to pay more out of pocket, in one way or another. the same is true for employers. either employers pay more for a really good health care package, but that takes something out of the employers’ bottom line, or they’re putting more onto the workers in the form of higher deductibles and higher copays. and i think that a lot of the good work that can be done in lowering costs had to do not with cost shifting but with actually making the system work better. and we’ve done a lot of work on that. what i referred to earlier — incentivizing a system where instead of ordering five tests because doctors and providers are getting paid for the test, you now have a system where you’re going to get reimbursed if the person gets healthy quicker and doesn’t return to the hospital. well, it turns out that that can, over time, be a real cost reduction. those are the kinds of things we’re implementing in the system as a result of obamacare. the more we do that kind of stuff, the less we’re going to see this cost shifting. but the intention has never been: let’s make it more expensive for people to get health care, so they can access the system more. and i think the proof of that is that even though per-person costs have not gone up a lot, the overall spending on health care has, because more people have come into the system. we want people to use the health care system — just not in the emergency room. we want people to stay healthy, and smoking cessation plans, and making sure they’re getting regular check-ups, and mammograms — those are the things that will save us as much money as we can.