diff --git "a/data/en108/text/00000011.txt" "b/data/en108/text/00000011.txt" new file mode 100644--- /dev/null +++ "b/data/en108/text/00000011.txt" @@ -0,0 +1,14606 @@ +_3f3tedCfQc-00000-00000012-00000395 [Music] +_3f3tedCfQc-00001-00000396-00000789 great things take time now Queen Street +_3f3tedCfQc-00002-00000790-00001113 is open we've transformed our old high +_3f3tedCfQc-00003-00001114-00001394 street into a people friendly place for +_3f3tedCfQc-00004-00001395-00001716 everyone in our community a safer place +_3f3tedCfQc-00005-00001717-00002121 to spend quality time to relax to shop +_3f3tedCfQc-00006-00002122-00002490 to enjoy being together in a beautiful +_3f3tedCfQc-00007-00002491-00002862 space that makes sense now and into the +_3f3tedCfQc-00008-00002863-00003195 future it's for me it's for us it's for +_3f3tedCfQc-00009-00003196-00003242 you +_3f3tedCfQc-00010-00003243-00003524 cue Street come on down +_3f3tedCfQc-00011-00003525-00003982 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00000-00001157-00001782 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00001-00001784-00003383 oh +_6t_RnQHaF4-00002-00003384-00003781 i'm actually stressing you +_6t_RnQHaF4-00003-00003782-00004694 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00004-00004695-00004705 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00005-00004706-00004959 [Applause] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00006-00004960-00006423 fish +_6t_RnQHaF4-00007-00006425-00006614 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00008-00006615-00006791 so i can still believe that people are +_6t_RnQHaF4-00009-00006792-00007014 still using their +_6t_RnQHaF4-00010-00007015-00008050 masks +_6t_RnQHaF4-00011-00008051-00008602 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00012-00008603-00009031 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00013-00009032-00009604 uh +_6t_RnQHaF4-00014-00009605-00010103 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00015-00010104-00010731 oh +_6t_RnQHaF4-00016-00010732-00011853 [Applause] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00017-00011854-00012687 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00018-00012688-00014103 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00019-00014104-00014463 well fresh fresh coconut new +_6t_RnQHaF4-00020-00014463-00014575 canada +_6t_RnQHaF4-00021-00014576-00014807 pizza +_6t_RnQHaF4-00022-00014808-00015440 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00023-00015441-00016188 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00024-00016188-00016822 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00025-00016823-00017039 i smell food +_6t_RnQHaF4-00026-00017040-00018319 it's not all the couches are still there +_6t_RnQHaF4-00027-00018320-00018591 these couches and let's +_6t_RnQHaF4-00028-00018592-00018755 like me +_6t_RnQHaF4-00029-00018756-00019047 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00030-00019048-00019369 how this culture is +_6t_RnQHaF4-00031-00019370-00020863 [Applause] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00032-00020864-00021063 i mean there is a mirror direct you can +_6t_RnQHaF4-00033-00021064-00021471 see this couch is lit +_6t_RnQHaF4-00034-00021472-00021671 me and my friends used to complete like +_6t_RnQHaF4-00035-00021672-00021911 our first year +_6t_RnQHaF4-00036-00021912-00022158 we like come here every time +_6t_RnQHaF4-00037-00022159-00022430 every second that we have a break +_6t_RnQHaF4-00038-00022431-00022719 in between classes will come +_6t_RnQHaF4-00039-00022720-00022975 like how +_6t_RnQHaF4-00040-00022976-00023375 easy can you get +_6t_RnQHaF4-00041-00023376-00024135 any miss them for your body +_6t_RnQHaF4-00042-00024136-00024358 okay so the only thing that this place +_6t_RnQHaF4-00043-00024359-00024639 this place here does not have +_6t_RnQHaF4-00044-00024640-00024783 is +_6t_RnQHaF4-00045-00024784-00025399 charges like you can sleep 24 7. +_6t_RnQHaF4-00046-00025400-00025694 then you will be lost without +_6t_RnQHaF4-00047-00025695-00025814 any +_6t_RnQHaF4-00048-00025816-00025999 any battery on your phone +_6t_RnQHaF4-00049-00026000-00026190 but i think there is a charger down here +_6t_RnQHaF4-00050-00026191-00026383 somewhere but +_6t_RnQHaF4-00051-00026383-00026607 uh this place is lit +_6t_RnQHaF4-00052-00026608-00026711 and it +_6t_RnQHaF4-00053-00026712-00026951 it filled up so quick +_6t_RnQHaF4-00054-00026952-00027207 like you +_6t_RnQHaF4-00055-00027208-00027414 if not because it's summertime if it's +_6t_RnQHaF4-00056-00027416-00027607 like the +_6t_RnQHaF4-00057-00027608-00027743 usual +_6t_RnQHaF4-00058-00027744-00027895 class time +_6t_RnQHaF4-00059-00027895-00028199 you won't even find any empty couch +_6t_RnQHaF4-00060-00028200-00028487 except if it's the evening time account +_6t_RnQHaF4-00061-00028488-00028614 sex +_6t_RnQHaF4-00062-00028616-00028994 most students are going accounts +_6t_RnQHaF4-00063-00028995-00029127 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00064-00029127-00029551 for this place +_6t_RnQHaF4-00065-00029552-00029967 okay +_6t_RnQHaF4-00066-00029968-00030207 isn't it beautiful isn't it beautiful to +_6t_RnQHaF4-00067-00030208-00030367 be back +_6t_RnQHaF4-00068-00030368-00030679 even though it's justified visits +_6t_RnQHaF4-00069-00030680-00030983 just to collect some +_6t_RnQHaF4-00070-00030983-00031318 but it's nice to be baksha +_6t_RnQHaF4-00071-00031319-00031567 i miss my friends too and all those ones +_6t_RnQHaF4-00072-00031568-00031735 i made back +_6t_RnQHaF4-00073-00031736-00032158 who knows where everybody is now +_6t_RnQHaF4-00074-00032160-00032631 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00075-00032632-00032871 you can have your lunch you can do +_6t_RnQHaF4-00076-00032872-00033135 everything and oh my god and there used +_6t_RnQHaF4-00077-00033136-00033383 to be like couches here too i think it's +_6t_RnQHaF4-00078-00033384-00033495 the couch +_6t_RnQHaF4-00079-00033496-00033943 the couch that i was sitting on before +_6t_RnQHaF4-00080-00033944-00034246 i think those are the couches that are +_6t_RnQHaF4-00081-00034247-00034495 way over here there down there +_6t_RnQHaF4-00082-00034496-00034695 because +_6t_RnQHaF4-00083-00034696-00034990 look at this it's it's beautiful +_6t_RnQHaF4-00084-00034991-00035262 isn't it +_6t_RnQHaF4-00085-00035263-00035431 everything is +_6t_RnQHaF4-00086-00035432-00035639 gorge +_6t_RnQHaF4-00087-00035640-00035967 it's gorgeous +_6t_RnQHaF4-00088-00035968-00036318 beautiful +_6t_RnQHaF4-00089-00036319-00036518 it's really nice +_6t_RnQHaF4-00090-00036519-00036790 if i come to school +_6t_RnQHaF4-00091-00036791-00037062 if i do this while i was in school +_6t_RnQHaF4-00092-00037063-00037439 i probably wouldn't get anything done +_6t_RnQHaF4-00093-00037440-00037679 but i would have got most of things done +_6t_RnQHaF4-00094-00037680-00037767 because +_6t_RnQHaF4-00095-00037768-00037983 i probably have so many people helping +_6t_RnQHaF4-00096-00037984-00038223 me +_6t_RnQHaF4-00097-00038224-00038455 if you know what i'm doing +_6t_RnQHaF4-00098-00038456-00040683 enough of my talking i need to get going +_6t_RnQHaF4-00099-00040684-00040846 hmm +_6t_RnQHaF4-00100-00040847-00040967 oh +_6t_RnQHaF4-00101-00040968-00041151 the clinic's place +_6t_RnQHaF4-00102-00041152-00041535 that's the clinic +_6t_RnQHaF4-00103-00041536-00041758 i remember my first time like my first +_6t_RnQHaF4-00104-00041759-00042023 time coming to the school i actually was +_6t_RnQHaF4-00105-00042024-00042302 here i was here i came here +_6t_RnQHaF4-00106-00042303-00042630 and +_6t_RnQHaF4-00107-00042631-00042846 yeah i came there and i was +_6t_RnQHaF4-00108-00042847-00043015 because i was looking for the more to +_6t_RnQHaF4-00109-00043016-00043271 fix with that so i sat there +_6t_RnQHaF4-00110-00043272-00043471 i sat there for a while +_6t_RnQHaF4-00111-00043472-00043751 and then and then i think i went +_6t_RnQHaF4-00112-00043752-00044111 upstairs or maybe i didn't go upstairs +_6t_RnQHaF4-00113-00044112-00044423 but yeah my first time i i was sitting +_6t_RnQHaF4-00114-00044424-00044558 on one of those +_6t_RnQHaF4-00115-00044559-00044662 just +_6t_RnQHaF4-00116-00044663-00044983 like you know as a first year +_6t_RnQHaF4-00117-00044984-00045239 i was so lost so confused +_6t_RnQHaF4-00118-00045240-00047455 you have no idea +_6t_RnQHaF4-00119-00047456-00047799 and that's the clinic +_6t_RnQHaF4-00120-00047800-00048055 oh they changed oh they changed the +_6t_RnQHaF4-00121-00048056-00048180 reception area +_6t_RnQHaF4-00122-00048181-00048462 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00123-00048463-00048630 well that's +_6t_RnQHaF4-00124-00048631-00050207 interesting +_6t_RnQHaF4-00125-00050208-00050495 oh it's open hopefully the other side is +_6t_RnQHaF4-00126-00050496-00050758 open too +_6t_RnQHaF4-00127-00050759-00051079 so i can charge my phone a little +_6t_RnQHaF4-00128-00051080-00051640 or it locks +_6t_RnQHaF4-00129-00051641-00052238 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00130-00052239-00052750 but i'm pretty sure this one is closed +_6t_RnQHaF4-00131-00052751-00052942 are you open +_6t_RnQHaF4-00132-00052944-00053207 we are actually closing in +_6t_RnQHaF4-00133-00053208-00054199 oh my god +_6t_RnQHaF4-00134-00054200-00054438 it's my first time back it's been a +_6t_RnQHaF4-00135-00054439-00054638 while i thought that you guys would be +_6t_RnQHaF4-00136-00054639-00054879 close already i was like i did i think +_6t_RnQHaF4-00137-00054879-00055083 but then i just pulled it right now +_6t_RnQHaF4-00138-00055084-00055279 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00139-00055279-00055550 yeah but we are here you're welcome +_6t_RnQHaF4-00140-00055551-00055719 oh hi +_6t_RnQHaF4-00141-00055720-00055791 hi +_6t_RnQHaF4-00142-00055791-00055991 yeah i guess i'll calm down +_6t_RnQHaF4-00143-00055991-00056279 tomorrow or at the time monday to friday +_6t_RnQHaF4-00144-00056279-00056559 monday to friday until four o'clock +_6t_RnQHaF4-00145-00056560-00056782 4 30 awesome thank you +_6t_RnQHaF4-00146-00056783-00057535 yeah yeah you too thanks +_6t_RnQHaF4-00147-00057536-00057638 my oh +_6t_RnQHaF4-00148-00057639-00058159 what is this +_6t_RnQHaF4-00149-00058160-00058438 what is that +_6t_RnQHaF4-00150-00058439-00059030 is this like a computer here +_6t_RnQHaF4-00151-00059032-00059263 is an office +_6t_RnQHaF4-00152-00059264-00059447 maybe it's an office +_6t_RnQHaF4-00153-00059448-00060337 like women's resources +_6t_RnQHaF4-00154-00060338-00061511 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00155-00061512-00061645 yes +_6t_RnQHaF4-00156-00061646-00061823 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00157-00061824-00062471 let me just sit here +_6t_RnQHaF4-00158-00062472-00063503 i need to charge +_6t_RnQHaF4-00159-00063504-00066036 so +_6t_RnQHaF4-00160-00066037-00066399 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00161-00066400-00066632 so +_6t_RnQHaF4-00162-00066633-00068342 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00163-00068343-00069149 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00164-00069150-00069575 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00165-00069576-00069791 i'm okay actually i'm okay now if i even +_6t_RnQHaF4-00166-00069792-00069999 if i'm 15 i'm alone i'm okay with it +_6t_RnQHaF4-00167-00070000-00070159 because honestly if it's getting out +_6t_RnQHaF4-00168-00070160-00070343 here it's put away for someone because +_6t_RnQHaF4-00169-00070344-00070606 no one's gonna come to you oh no +_6t_RnQHaF4-00170-00070607-00070823 yeah oh like like back in the day when +_6t_RnQHaF4-00171-00070824-00070935 you go to a ghost and you bump to +_6t_RnQHaF4-00172-00070936-00071087 him he's like oh hi hi and then next +_6t_RnQHaF4-00173-00071088-00071359 week you gotta get married +_6t_RnQHaF4-00174-00071360-00071519 yeah sometimes i just pulled up for fun +_6t_RnQHaF4-00175-00071520-00071631 and like i'm like watching it like this +_6t_RnQHaF4-00176-00071632-00071743 with my +_6t_RnQHaF4-00177-00071744-00071978 you know what's going to happen +_6t_RnQHaF4-00178-00071979-00072215 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00179-00072216-00072367 well i will see your videos you'll be +_6t_RnQHaF4-00180-00072368-00072631 posting oh yeah i do post oh wow you're +_6t_RnQHaF4-00181-00072632-00072838 going to have your phone but i haven't +_6t_RnQHaF4-00182-00072839-00073038 well i i post like +_6t_RnQHaF4-00183-00073039-00073399 maybe some weeks ago +_6t_RnQHaF4-00184-00073400-00073703 i thought oh my gosh you did yeah +_6t_RnQHaF4-00185-00073704-00073871 i'm subscribed to your channel oh you +_6t_RnQHaF4-00186-00073872-00073943 are +_6t_RnQHaF4-00187-00073944-00074062 yeah +_6t_RnQHaF4-00188-00074063-00074679 i subscribed +_6t_RnQHaF4-00189-00074680-00074838 oh wow yeah +_6t_RnQHaF4-00190-00074839-00075094 um +_6t_RnQHaF4-00191-00075095-00075287 yeah +_6t_RnQHaF4-00192-00075288-00075511 this journey of dating +_6t_RnQHaF4-00193-00075512-00075711 you just have to keep keep your um i +_6t_RnQHaF4-00194-00075712-00075975 don't know man do you do you see my eyes +_6t_RnQHaF4-00195-00075976-00076206 that i want somebody +_6t_RnQHaF4-00196-00076207-00076438 do you see that my eyes are closing like +_6t_RnQHaF4-00197-00076439-00076582 it's not gonna rain right i want to +_6t_RnQHaF4-00198-00076583-00076687 sleep +_6t_RnQHaF4-00199-00076688-00076855 it's not gonna rain +_6t_RnQHaF4-00200-00076856-00078311 um +_6t_RnQHaF4-00201-00078312-00078487 sometimes you know like they have +_6t_RnQHaF4-00202-00078488-00078703 certain certain so many nice things for +_6t_RnQHaF4-00203-00078704-00078911 them i just want to sit down sometimes +_6t_RnQHaF4-00204-00078912-00079087 and enjoy this +_6t_RnQHaF4-00205-00079088-00079350 oh like the the totally nice thing and +_6t_RnQHaF4-00206-00079351-00079567 like can i just enjoy +_6t_RnQHaF4-00207-00079568-00079767 what you enjoy i have to wish i missed +_6t_RnQHaF4-00208-00079768-00079826 you guys +_6t_RnQHaF4-00209-00079827-00080055 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00210-00080056-00080303 i miss my teenage years +_6t_RnQHaF4-00211-00080304-00080526 ladies +_6t_RnQHaF4-00212-00080527-00080655 girl +_6t_RnQHaF4-00213-00080656-00080887 i mean when we used to be like +_6t_RnQHaF4-00214-00080888-00081215 we go to like volunteer clubs i know i +_6t_RnQHaF4-00215-00081216-00081487 miss sleeping on the desk +_6t_RnQHaF4-00216-00081488-00081782 during the +_6t_RnQHaF4-00217-00081783-00081975 lunch you're leaving your best friend in +_6t_RnQHaF4-00218-00081976-00082231 high school let's go there yeah +_6t_RnQHaF4-00219-00082232-00082431 i think we have to pay them +_6t_RnQHaF4-00220-00082432-00082682 i think they bring our things here +_6t_RnQHaF4-00221-00082683-00082975 oh yeah they bring you here i mean you +_6t_RnQHaF4-00222-00082976-00083175 can paint there too but usually they +_6t_RnQHaF4-00223-00083176-00083350 bring it to you oh can i tell them +_6t_RnQHaF4-00224-00083351-00083591 you're ready +_6t_RnQHaF4-00225-00083592-00083726 i'm ready +_6t_RnQHaF4-00226-00083727-00083918 yeah +_6t_RnQHaF4-00227-00083919-00084989 i don't know why i wore my shirt no it's +_6t_RnQHaF4-00228-00084990-00085215 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00229-00085216-00085482 i need one +_6t_RnQHaF4-00230-00085483-00085767 too oh oh +_6t_RnQHaF4-00231-00085768-00086015 did she finish her food no +_6t_RnQHaF4-00232-00086016-00086182 yeah you're not yours no but +_6t_RnQHaF4-00233-00086183-00086343 what do i have yeah what am i going to +_6t_RnQHaF4-00234-00086344-00086615 do +_6t_RnQHaF4-00235-00086616-00086743 oh my god +_6t_RnQHaF4-00236-00086744-00086879 what i'm going to do with it +_6t_RnQHaF4-00237-00086880-00088294 you +_6t_RnQHaF4-00238-00088295-00088543 and everything else really +_6t_RnQHaF4-00239-00088544-00088743 i've always liked snails +_6t_RnQHaF4-00240-00088744-00089071 like it this is my first time trying it +_6t_RnQHaF4-00241-00089072-00089455 nearly in a year or so i think +_6t_RnQHaF4-00242-00089456-00089791 yeah no no um she they brought it home +_6t_RnQHaF4-00243-00089792-00090062 from like this party +_6t_RnQHaF4-00244-00090063-00090318 um +_6t_RnQHaF4-00245-00090319-00090431 i think they +_6t_RnQHaF4-00246-00090432-00090791 get it from us +_6t_RnQHaF4-00247-00090792-00090959 you know sometimes they import it as +_6t_RnQHaF4-00248-00090960-00092229 well +_6t_RnQHaF4-00249-00092230-00092679 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00250-00092680-00092871 oh no +_6t_RnQHaF4-00251-00092872-00092950 no +_6t_RnQHaF4-00252-00092951-00093174 i took a bite of paper it's okay you can +_6t_RnQHaF4-00253-00093175-00093287 put it here +_6t_RnQHaF4-00254-00093288-00093462 but you don't like it yeah i didn't like +_6t_RnQHaF4-00255-00093463-00095385 it thank you +_6t_RnQHaF4-00256-00095386-00096156 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00257-00096157-00096711 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00258-00096712-00096918 we were we went there yeah we went there +_6t_RnQHaF4-00259-00096919-00097038 together +_6t_RnQHaF4-00260-00097039-00097797 yeah we took a picture +_6t_RnQHaF4-00261-00097798-00097943 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00262-00097944-00098967 yeah i'm coming +_6t_RnQHaF4-00263-00098968-00100015 okay +_6t_RnQHaF4-00264-00100016-00100255 well this is a nice view oh that's +_6t_RnQHaF4-00265-00100256-00100420 beautiful +_6t_RnQHaF4-00266-00100421-00100871 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00267-00100872-00100988 oh +_6t_RnQHaF4-00268-00100989-00102215 [Applause] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00269-00102216-00102439 yeah you don't want to like go +_6t_RnQHaF4-00270-00102440-00102727 oh my god i bet people like +_6t_RnQHaF4-00271-00102728-00103229 do this kind of crazy diving whatever +_6t_RnQHaF4-00272-00103230-00103406 [Applause] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00273-00103407-00104654 hold on hold on +_6t_RnQHaF4-00274-00104655-00104886 like where did you go i thought you were +_6t_RnQHaF4-00275-00104888-00106207 right behind us +_6t_RnQHaF4-00276-00106208-00106478 in this amazing amazing landscape to +_6t_RnQHaF4-00277-00106479-00106743 take photos like this this beautiful +_6t_RnQHaF4-00278-00106744-00106975 ladies here +_6t_RnQHaF4-00279-00106976-00107166 i shall make you a video too +_6t_RnQHaF4-00280-00107167-00107358 please don't make a video +_6t_RnQHaF4-00281-00107359-00107623 oh hold on a picture from here oh my +_6t_RnQHaF4-00282-00107624-00107863 goodness the phone is dying now +_6t_RnQHaF4-00283-00107864-00108086 well thank god +_6t_RnQHaF4-00284-00108088-00108263 thank you so much +_6t_RnQHaF4-00285-00108264-00108447 it's good for winning it no it's not +_6t_RnQHaF4-00286-00108448-00108758 dead but it's down it's really down +_6t_RnQHaF4-00287-00108759-00108927 i shall we are talking +_6t_RnQHaF4-00288-00108928-00109143 it's no it's not dead but it's really +_6t_RnQHaF4-00289-00109144-00109686 really down oh come get in +_6t_RnQHaF4-00290-00109688-00110039 i should watch +_6t_RnQHaF4-00291-00110040-00110319 i i but i know that this this thing take +_6t_RnQHaF4-00292-00110320-00110966 good pictures +_6t_RnQHaF4-00293-00110967-00111334 i'm gonna send you the pictures ah +_6t_RnQHaF4-00294-00111335-00111558 i know it does +_6t_RnQHaF4-00295-00111559-00113471 i know it dance +_6t_RnQHaF4-00296-00113472-00114500 so much +_6t_RnQHaF4-00297-00114501-00115680 [Applause] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00299-00119548-00122431 [Applause] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00300-00122432-00123605 difference +_6t_RnQHaF4-00301-00123606-00125813 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00302-00125814-00127071 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00303-00127072-00128566 i'm in san francisco +_6t_RnQHaF4-00304-00128567-00130278 oh yes yes so that one +_6t_RnQHaF4-00305-00130279-00130823 i +_6t_RnQHaF4-00306-00130824-00131175 well that's good oh my goodness +_6t_RnQHaF4-00307-00131176-00131538 you shouldn't have told them +_6t_RnQHaF4-00308-00131539-00131899 [Laughter] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00309-00131900-00133831 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00310-00133832-00134166 so +_6t_RnQHaF4-00311-00134167-00134870 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00312-00134871-00135254 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00313-00135255-00135556 so +_6t_RnQHaF4-00314-00135557-00136095 [Music] +_6t_RnQHaF4-00315-00136096-00136303 you +_7pJqexW6xM-00000-00000000-00000470 do not do what I say but do as I do and +_7pJqexW6xM-00001-00000471-00000668 what I want to talk to you today about +_7pJqexW6xM-00002-00000669-00001094 is misconceptions fake gurus and people +_7pJqexW6xM-00003-00001095-00001274 claiming to know all secrets of the +_7pJqexW6xM-00004-00001275-00001670 [__] universe and this applies +_7pJqexW6xM-00005-00001671-00001876 to human nature so basically we're gonna +_7pJqexW6xM-00006-00001877-00002150 be talking about when people are trying +_7pJqexW6xM-00007-00002151-00002279 to sell you something that is too good +_7pJqexW6xM-00008-00002280-00002414 to be true but guess what +_7pJqexW6xM-00009-00002415-00002606 it's too [__] good to be true you +_7pJqexW6xM-00010-00002607-00002831 know it doesn't matter if it's like hey +_7pJqexW6xM-00011-00002832-00003293 get 20% return and it's fake get +_7pJqexW6xM-00012-00003294-00003551 shredded in three weeks and it's fake +_7pJqexW6xM-00013-00003552-00003794 you know find your find your love your +_7pJqexW6xM-00014-00003795-00004097 life in like 90 days and it's fake these +_7pJqexW6xM-00015-00004098-00004366 are all scams and these people are +_7pJqexW6xM-00016-00004367-00004652 focusing on the lowest level of +_7pJqexW6xM-00017-00004653-00004913 emotional response where they're trying +_7pJqexW6xM-00018-00004914-00005054 to piggyback off of people in +_7pJqexW6xM-00019-00005055-00005420 desperation and so I'm a huge huge +_7pJqexW6xM-00020-00005421-00005716 [__] proponent of observation as +_7pJqexW6xM-00021-00005717-00006043 opposed to storytelling as opposed to +_7pJqexW6xM-00022-00006044-00006320 you preaching here like a priest and +_7pJqexW6xM-00023-00006321-00006823 it's high horsing ye shall do this hype +_7pJqexW6xM-00024-00006825-00007070 you know these [__] hypocrites you +_7pJqexW6xM-00025-00007070-00007285 know they're preaching and priest is a +_7pJqexW6xM-00026-00007286-00007505 metaphor it's you can use it for +_7pJqexW6xM-00027-00007506-00007652 anything but I use priests as a metaphor +_7pJqexW6xM-00028-00007653-00007913 a person of high power of high morale +_7pJqexW6xM-00029-00007914-00008162 and ethics is preaching something but +_7pJqexW6xM-00030-00008163-00008351 yet behind closed doors this hypocrite +_7pJqexW6xM-00031-00008352-00008617 is doing the complete opposite so I'm +_7pJqexW6xM-00032-00008618-00008789 quite wary where people are coming +_7pJqexW6xM-00033-00008790-00008992 trying to tell you something but doing +_7pJqexW6xM-00034-00008993-00009242 something else class example within the +_7pJqexW6xM-00035-00009243-00009395 online business space +_7pJqexW6xM-00036-00009396-00009631 people are telling hey I'm gonna build +_7pJqexW6xM-00037-00009632-00009874 you an e-commerce business in 90 days or +_7pJqexW6xM-00038-00009875-00010024 I'm gonna build this affiliate marketing +_7pJqexW6xM-00039-00010025-00010316 business in two weeks or bla bla bla bla +_7pJqexW6xM-00040-00010317-00010637 bla bla bla bla bla and they're trying +_7pJqexW6xM-00041-00010638-00010802 to pitch that [__] for like five [__] +_7pJqexW6xM-00042-00010803-00011135 thousand dollars which is insane +_7pJqexW6xM-00043-00011136-00011498 no good success no good successful +_7pJqexW6xM-00044-00011499-00011921 [__] is gonna sell you courses +_7pJqexW6xM-00045-00011922-00012350 or mentoring if they're kicking ass in a +_7pJqexW6xM-00046-00012351-00012548 bit like it makes no [__] sense that +_7pJqexW6xM-00047-00012549-00012728 like that's why I know boot traders are +_7pJqexW6xM-00048-00012729-00013046 selling [__] trader courses oh good +_7pJqexW6xM-00049-00013047-00013277 ecommerce person is gonna be making a +_7pJqexW6xM-00050-00013278-00013427 [__] e-commerce course on the sign +_7pJqexW6xM-00051-00013428-00013733 makes no sense but what makes sense is +_7pJqexW6xM-00052-00013734-00014054 this and so if you're one of these +_7pJqexW6xM-00053-00014055-00014291 people supplies anything in life +_7pJqexW6xM-00054-00014291-00014555 absolutely anything and we'll use this +_7pJqexW6xM-00055-00014556-00014752 course thing because that's kind of +_7pJqexW6xM-00056-00014753-00014915 recently a lot of people are talking +_7pJqexW6xM-00057-00014916-00015152 about this you see this person selling +_7pJqexW6xM-00058-00015153-00015380 you [__] online and it's an offer too +_7pJqexW6xM-00059-00015381-00015613 good to be [__] true oh my god +_7pJqexW6xM-00060-00015615-00015950 I can make 100k in three months you're +_7pJqexW6xM-00061-00015951-00016154 not gonna do nothing at all I'm gonna +_7pJqexW6xM-00062-00016155-00016334 still be the lazy ass [__] bum +_7pJqexW6xM-00063-00016335-00016559 and I put any work just by following +_7pJqexW6xM-00064-00016560-00016820 these seven sacred super [__] tips +_7pJqexW6xM-00065-00016821-00017063 and people fall for it they want the big +_7pJqexW6xM-00066-00017064-00017243 easy green button it's human nature I +_7pJqexW6xM-00067-00017244-00017489 get it but what's more interesting is +_7pJqexW6xM-00068-00017490-00017765 instead of following them on what +_7pJqexW6xM-00069-00017766-00017947 they're saying you should follow them on +_7pJqexW6xM-00070-00017948-00018169 what they're doing but because I want to +_7pJqexW6xM-00071-00018170-00018296 give credit where this credit is where +_7pJqexW6xM-00072-00018297-00018619 there's credits do their their marketing +_7pJqexW6xM-00073-00018620-00018827 their funnels [__] work for the most +_7pJqexW6xM-00074-00018828-00018965 part I wouldn't be doing it I always +_7pJqexW6xM-00075-00018966-00019160 bring up the Nigerian scam you know the +_7pJqexW6xM-00076-00019161-00019436 prince or lately in North America or in +_7pJqexW6xM-00077-00019437-00019655 Canada the CRA scam like the scam BOTS +_7pJqexW6xM-00078-00019656-00019822 going on calling people and they're +_7pJqexW6xM-00079-00019823-00020072 doing hydro scams they will not keep on +_7pJqexW6xM-00080-00020073-00020249 doing it if it didn't [__] work +_7pJqexW6xM-00081-00020250-00020468 obviously it's working and it's paying +_7pJqexW6xM-00082-00020469-00020702 in dividends hence they're doubling down +_7pJqexW6xM-00083-00020703-00020978 and working on these scam funnels this +_7pJqexW6xM-00084-00020979-00021194 goes towards the same thing that I'm +_7pJqexW6xM-00085-00021195-00021317 talking about what these people are +_7pJqexW6xM-00086-00021318-00021551 selling online [__] they're marketing +_7pJqexW6xM-00087-00021552-00022025 funnels work good [__] example of +_7pJqexW6xM-00088-00022026-00022403 don't copy what I'm saying copy what I'm +_7pJqexW6xM-00089-00022404-00022655 doing and we do it a marketing all the +_7pJqexW6xM-00090-00022656-00022919 time you know I love seeing a beautiful +_7pJqexW6xM-00091-00022920-00023159 final design I'll take screenshots out +_7pJqexW6xM-00092-00023160-00023342 of that I'll look at the branding the +_7pJqexW6xM-00093-00023343-00023597 typography the language the nouns the +_7pJqexW6xM-00094-00023598-00023924 verbs the speed everything I love I love +_7pJqexW6xM-00095-00023925-00024239 a great checkout experience and you know +_7pJqexW6xM-00096-00024240-00024453 the Picasso has a great saying good +_7pJqexW6xM-00097-00024454-00024695 artists copy great artists steal not +_7pJqexW6xM-00098-00024696-00024920 stealing as in pixel for pixel but you +_7pJqexW6xM-00099-00024921-00025077 take inspiration from then how can you +_7pJqexW6xM-00100-00025078-00025383 utilize such a great experience off of +_7pJqexW6xM-00101-00025384-00025649 this onto other people and so basically +_7pJqexW6xM-00102-00025650-00025799 that's what you should do and this +_7pJqexW6xM-00103-00025800-00025937 applies to anything doesn't matter if +_7pJqexW6xM-00104-00025938-00026124 it's a person selling this [__] scam +_7pJqexW6xM-00105-00026125-00026454 courses or person trying to sell you get +_7pJqexW6xM-00106-00026455-00026754 fit in three weeks or the [__] Ponzi +_7pJqexW6xM-00107-00026755-00026899 schemes and all these get-rich-quick +_7pJqexW6xM-00108-00026900-00027131 [__] [__] things out there +_7pJqexW6xM-00109-00027132-00027368 they're doing it to make money off +_7pJqexW6xM-00110-00027369-00027470 you're the schmuck you know there's a +_7pJqexW6xM-00111-00027472-00027627 saying if you don't know who the schmuck +_7pJqexW6xM-00112-00027627-00027774 is in the room you're the schmuck and +_7pJqexW6xM-00113-00027775-00028120 it's really important that you realize I +_7pJqexW6xM-00114-00028122-00028362 always like to focus on Occam's razor +_7pJqexW6xM-00115-00028363-00028662 you know what is a what's the closest +_7pJqexW6xM-00116-00028663-00028793 line for point A to point B what's the +_7pJqexW6xM-00117-00028794-00029001 most rational thing that makes sense and +_7pJqexW6xM-00118-00029002-00029193 majority time if it's too good to be +_7pJqexW6xM-00119-00029194-00029337 true it's too [__] good to be true +_7pJqexW6xM-00120-00029338-00029586 you know rational thinking and so +_7pJqexW6xM-00121-00029587-00029811 basically I love observing like observe +_7pJqexW6xM-00122-00029812-00029982 people around you observe people how +_7pJqexW6xM-00123-00029983-00030231 they behave because this is unconscious +_7pJqexW6xM-00124-00030232-00030524 these are unbiased actions of people are +_7pJqexW6xM-00125-00030525-00030807 doing people can control the language +_7pJqexW6xM-00126-00030808-00031110 they use people can control the verbs +_7pJqexW6xM-00127-00031111-00031374 the nouns NLP neuro and gusta per they +_7pJqexW6xM-00128-00031375-00031514 can control they can manipulate +_7pJqexW6xM-00129-00031514-00031749 artificially create sentences +_7pJqexW6xM-00130-00031750-00031970 interesting structures and words and +_7pJqexW6xM-00131-00031972-00032087 stories to manipulate you +_7pJqexW6xM-00132-00032088-00032475 but it's rare very rare that they can +_7pJqexW6xM-00133-00032476-00032621 control the subconsciously on how they +_7pJqexW6xM-00134-00032622-00033054 behave behavior is to be studied right +_7pJqexW6xM-00135-00033055-00033262 and then there's another great saying +_7pJqexW6xM-00136-00033263-00033495 how you do one thing is how you do +_7pJqexW6xM-00137-00033496-00033546 everything +_7pJqexW6xM-00138-00033547-00033821 consistency and when you're talking with +_7pJqexW6xM-00139-00033822-00033960 people when you're looking to purchase +_7pJqexW6xM-00140-00033961-00034161 something when you're studying a company +_7pJqexW6xM-00141-00034162-00034487 when people are selling you a pitch +_7pJqexW6xM-00142-00034488-00034698 consistency is key look at their past +_7pJqexW6xM-00143-00034699-00034998 look what they did before look who +_7pJqexW6xM-00144-00034999-00035215 they're part of look at their circle +_7pJqexW6xM-00145-00035216-00035445 it's rare the people attend I'm not +_7pJqexW6xM-00146-00035446-00035583 saying people don't change that's not +_7pJqexW6xM-00147-00035584-00035765 the question I'm saying is very rare +_7pJqexW6xM-00148-00035766-00035910 that people kind of deviate from the +_7pJqexW6xM-00149-00035911-00036237 natural genetic makeup and so don't get +_7pJqexW6xM-00150-00036238-00036492 scammed guys like holy [__] and I kind +_7pJqexW6xM-00151-00036493-00036702 of see it more I said I see a lot of it +_7pJqexW6xM-00152-00036703-00036837 cuz I'm gonna [__] crypto space and +_7pJqexW6xM-00153-00036838-00036987 mind you the crypto space is full though +_7pJqexW6xM-00154-00036988-00037224 most [__] and I'm not being +_7pJqexW6xM-00155-00037225-00037340 politically correct cuz I don't give a +_7pJqexW6xM-00156-00037341-00037721 [__] most [__] idiotic people I can +_7pJqexW6xM-00157-00037722-00037803 a matte like +_7pJqexW6xM-00158-00037804-00037992 I can't even manage like it draws the +_7pJqexW6xM-00159-00037993-00038169 worst because it's money on the line +_7pJqexW6xM-00160-00038170-00038505 people are [__] pimping coins people +_7pJqexW6xM-00161-00038506-00038754 are promoting crap my like hurts my +_7pJqexW6xM-00162-00038755-00038994 [__] head even thinking about it and +_7pJqexW6xM-00163-00038995-00039168 so I see a lot of it and a lot of people +_7pJqexW6xM-00164-00039169-00039345 are gullible and they fall for it and +_7pJqexW6xM-00165-00039346-00039498 they're not just in our industry in +_7pJqexW6xM-00166-00039499-00039651 every industry and don't fall for it man +_7pJqexW6xM-00167-00039652-00039825 it's like the bottom line if you want to +_7pJqexW6xM-00168-00039826-00040032 [__] get good at something put in the +_7pJqexW6xM-00169-00040033-00040254 [__] work look at people how they're +_7pJqexW6xM-00170-00040255-00040437 doing it already you want to get good at +_7pJqexW6xM-00171-00040438-00040584 ecommerce study the best shopify +_7pJqexW6xM-00172-00040585-00040791 ecommerce store look at their check oh +_7pJqexW6xM-00173-00040792-00040935 look at their products look at their +_7pJqexW6xM-00174-00040936-00041169 branding study that [__] study it you +_7pJqexW6xM-00175-00041170-00041346 know there's your teacher right there +_7pJqexW6xM-00176-00041347-00041616 you want to get you know in shape study +_7pJqexW6xM-00177-00041617-00041760 people who have been in shape for 30 +_7pJqexW6xM-00178-00041761-00041907 [__] years who figured out a way to +_7pJqexW6xM-00179-00041908-00042123 do a sustainable none of these quick +_7pJqexW6xM-00180-00042124-00042444 hacks diet [__] right you want to +_7pJqexW6xM-00181-00042445-00042630 get in good relationship study somebody +_7pJqexW6xM-00182-00042631-00042777 who's been married for 40 50 years +_7pJqexW6xM-00183-00042778-00042927 happily married together that has gone +_7pJqexW6xM-00184-00042928-00043056 through the ups downs of smiles and +_7pJqexW6xM-00185-00043057-00043371 frowns you want to study what people are +_7pJqexW6xM-00186-00043372-00043620 living you don't want to study what +_7pJqexW6xM-00187-00043621-00043836 people are preaching and I'll leave it +_7pJqexW6xM-00188-00043837-00044052 at that guys okay leave a comment below +_7pJqexW6xM-00189-00044053-00044193 this video and I'll talk to you guys +_7pJqexW6xM-00190-00044194-00044415 soon peace oh yeah by the way subscribe +_7pJqexW6xM-00191-00044416-00044520 there's a subscribe button somewhere +_7pJqexW6xM-00192-00044521-00044796 there I don't click it and I'll see you +_7pJqexW6xM-00193-00044797-00045072 guys tomorrow peace out +_9U2Op2g01U-00000-00000000-00000145 I'll just give you I'll share with you +_9U2Op2g01U-00001-00000146-00000553 my story I am a an American football +_9U2Op2g01U-00002-00000554-00000890 coach meaning a coach of American +_9U2Op2g01U-00003-00000891-00001244 football which is different than what we +_9U2Op2g01U-00004-00001245-00001457 call soccer and I want to explain the +_9U2Op2g01U-00005-00001458-00001777 differences but you know but I do think +_9U2Op2g01U-00006-00001778-00001972 it's the greatest sport in the world and +_9U2Op2g01U-00007-00001973-00002096 sorry guys +_9U2Op2g01U-00008-00002097-00002639 I said ghost but but I do that and I +_9U2Op2g01U-00009-00002640-00002897 teach I teach Spanish in a little +_9U2Op2g01U-00010-00002898-00003160 redneck school it's actually it's a +_9U2Op2g01U-00011-00003161-00003440 middle sized redneck school outside of +_9U2Op2g01U-00012-00003440-00003683 Atlanta where I mostly I'm teaching high +_9U2Op2g01U-00013-00003684-00003838 school kids that really don't want to +_9U2Op2g01U-00014-00003839-00004072 learn Spanish but they're taking it cuz +_9U2Op2g01U-00015-00004073-00004256 they want to get two checks two credits +_9U2Op2g01U-00016-00004257-00004568 for Spanish and I'm a dad of four kids +_9U2Op2g01U-00017-00004569-00005036 and a husband of one wife and yeah that +_9U2Op2g01U-00018-00005037-00005331 works out better that way by the way but +_9U2Op2g01U-00019-00005332-00005809 so I'm so I ended up kind of being I'm a +_9U2Op2g01U-00020-00005810-00006109 dad to my kids and and I ended up being +_9U2Op2g01U-00021-00006110-00006326 a dad to my players and and to a lot of +_9U2Op2g01U-00022-00006327-00006614 my students but but it didn't start that +_9U2Op2g01U-00023-00006615-00006809 way started out from a really pretty +_9U2Op2g01U-00024-00006809-00007181 messed up family well really a broken +_9U2Op2g01U-00025-00007181-00007316 family with their really messed up bad +_9U2Op2g01U-00026-00007317-00007613 let's put it that way so I'll share my +_9U2Op2g01U-00027-00007614-00007808 story a little bit now trying to go too +_9U2Op2g01U-00028-00007809-00008012 far into detail but when I was really +_9U2Op2g01U-00029-00008013-00008414 young I my dad was my was my idol my +_9U2Op2g01U-00030-00008415-00008681 hero and I wanted to be exactly like him +_9U2Op2g01U-00031-00008682-00008969 and I figured that if I was exactly like +_9U2Op2g01U-00032-00008970-00009137 him might be pretty good you know cuz I +_9U2Op2g01U-00033-00009138-00009460 thought he was perfect and as I got to +_9U2Op2g01U-00034-00009461-00009592 be a little older I survived he wasn't +_9U2Op2g01U-00035-00009593-00009731 perfect but I still thought he was great +_9U2Op2g01U-00036-00009732-00010046 and but what I didn't know at a younger +_9U2Op2g01U-00037-00010047-00010324 age I mean all the way back when I +_9U2Op2g01U-00038-00010325-00010496 wanted everything to be I wanted the +_9U2Op2g01U-00039-00010497-00010670 shoes he had I wanted to look like him +_9U2Op2g01U-00040-00010671-00010921 and act like him and be like him I +_9U2Op2g01U-00041-00010922-00011198 didn't realized that he was a really +_9U2Op2g01U-00042-00011199-00011420 really messed up guy with a drug problem +_9U2Op2g01U-00043-00011421-00011719 and as I as I got a little bit older +_9U2Op2g01U-00044-00011720-00012059 there came some points where I overheard +_9U2Op2g01U-00045-00012060-00012263 my sister's to talk in my two older +_9U2Op2g01U-00046-00012264-00012467 sisters they were talking to my mom +_9U2Op2g01U-00047-00012468-00012656 about my dad's drug problem I got mad +_9U2Op2g01U-00048-00012657-00012692 house +_9U2Op2g01U-00049-00012693-00012847 like what are you talking about he you +_9U2Op2g01U-00050-00012849-00013226 know he has takes medicine because you +_9U2Op2g01U-00051-00013227-00013369 know he has surgery and all this stuff +_9U2Op2g01U-00052-00013371-00013669 but he is addicted to pain meds and he +_9U2Op2g01U-00053-00013671-00013862 would make these he wouldn't he would +_9U2Op2g01U-00054-00013863-00014063 meditate doctors and get off hazard from +_9U2Op2g01U-00055-00014063-00014183 pain meds but I didn't believe that it +_9U2Op2g01U-00056-00014184-00014552 was true and so I still saw him as my +_9U2Op2g01U-00057-00014553-00014687 hero I was little I was the last person +_9U2Op2g01U-00058-00014688-00015002 like everybody else saw that promise the +_9U2Op2g01U-00059-00015003-00015185 last person to ever see the problem that +_9U2Op2g01U-00060-00015186-00015554 he really was having and it really I +_9U2Op2g01U-00061-00015555-00015734 couldn't even see it until one night I +_9U2Op2g01U-00062-00015735-00016007 was 11 I was sitting up watching a movie +_9U2Op2g01U-00063-00016008-00016253 with him and he passed out on the couch +_9U2Op2g01U-00064-00016254-00016419 and I thought he was tired you know and +_9U2Op2g01U-00065-00016420-00016706 maybe got done I woke him up he was like +_9U2Op2g01U-00066-00016707-00016859 one of those little good old Clint +_9U2Op2g01U-00067-00016860-00017075 Eastwood westerns I woke him up and I +_9U2Op2g01U-00068-00017076-00017263 was like dad you know he fell asleep +_9U2Op2g01U-00069-00017264-00017636 yeah yeah he's like oh you know like out +_9U2Op2g01U-00070-00017637-00017744 of it and everything I thought he was +_9U2Op2g01U-00071-00017745-00018049 just tired he woke up kind of got up and +_9U2Op2g01U-00072-00018050-00018305 walked from the couch into the bathroom +_9U2Op2g01U-00073-00018306-00018485 he didn't shut the door he stepped into +_9U2Op2g01U-00074-00018486-00018746 the bathroom I heard a crash looked in +_9U2Op2g01U-00075-00018747-00018899 there see what matter was and he +_9U2Op2g01U-00076-00018900-00019043 couldn't even stand up he fell over +_9U2Op2g01U-00077-00019044-00019466 backwards into the tub and was still out +_9U2Op2g01U-00078-00019467-00019634 of it and then standing there looking +_9U2Op2g01U-00079-00019635-00019856 down at him laying in the tub I was like +_9U2Op2g01U-00080-00019857-00020336 I just had the realization you know that +_9U2Op2g01U-00081-00020337-00020474 what everybody else said that I didn't +_9U2Op2g01U-00082-00020475-00020657 believe was true that he really did have +_9U2Op2g01U-00083-00020658-00020897 a drug problem and from then from there +_9U2Op2g01U-00084-00020898-00021022 and that was that was a turning point +_9U2Op2g01U-00085-00021023-00021485 for me that was a point where you know +_9U2Op2g01U-00086-00021486-00021703 in fact you know I started to put +_9U2Op2g01U-00087-00021704-00021847 distance between me and him I didn't +_9U2Op2g01U-00088-00021848-00021959 want to hang around him I didn't want to +_9U2Op2g01U-00089-00021960-00022094 be like him I wanted to go the other way +_9U2Op2g01U-00090-00022095-00022460 and be opposite of him and even so far +_9U2Op2g01U-00091-00022461-00022631 as that was when that was when some of +_9U2Op2g01U-00092-00022632-00022799 you knows my thing with my name Daniel +_9U2Op2g01U-00093-00022800-00023021 that was when I said I don't wanna be +_9U2Op2g01U-00094-00023022-00023188 called Daniel I'm gonna be called Dan +_9U2Op2g01U-00095-00023189-00023540 and I changed my my whole outlook on +_9U2Op2g01U-00096-00023541-00023875 life and so that was from 11:00 on until +_9U2Op2g01U-00097-00023876-00024467 about 17 18 I was just an angry guy I'm +_9U2Op2g01U-00098-00024468-00024608 looking to try to figure out what I was +_9U2Op2g01U-00099-00024609-00024839 going to do try to you know kill some of +_9U2Op2g01U-00100-00024840-00025075 my own pain you know +_9U2Op2g01U-00101-00025076-00025360 I got pretty far into trying to treat my +_9U2Op2g01U-00102-00025361-00025510 own pain I couldn't do it drugs because +_9U2Op2g01U-00103-00025511-00025671 I don't want to be like him so I figured +_9U2Op2g01U-00104-00025672-00025944 what wasn't a drug that would be a good +_9U2Op2g01U-00105-00025945-00026052 way to treat my pain would be like a +_9U2Op2g01U-00106-00026054-00026340 whole ton of alcohol because in my mind +_9U2Op2g01U-00107-00026341-00026520 it wasn't the same as popping pills you +_9U2Op2g01U-00108-00026522-00026968 know and so so that was a turning point +_9U2Op2g01U-00109-00026969-00027256 that turned me farther away from the +_9U2Op2g01U-00110-00027257-00027514 road that I'm on now but but there was +_9U2Op2g01U-00111-00027514-00027627 but I'll tell you about a couple of +_9U2Op2g01U-00112-00027628-00027775 other turning points because I ended up +_9U2Op2g01U-00113-00027776-00028177 here so a turning point came at a at a +_9U2Op2g01U-00114-00028177-00028507 camp I used to go to we have these camps +_9U2Op2g01U-00115-00028508-00028612 in the States I don't know if they had +_9U2Op2g01U-00116-00028613-00028815 things like this here but it was like +_9U2Op2g01U-00117-00028816-00029008 you you know parents to send their kids +_9U2Op2g01U-00118-00029008-00029326 wait for a week to a camp and so there's +_9U2Op2g01U-00119-00029327-00029568 this camp I went to from third grade +_9U2Op2g01U-00120-00029569-00030001 until until my last year of high school +_9U2Op2g01U-00121-00030002-00030243 I actually went one extra year by lying +_9U2Op2g01U-00122-00030244-00030468 and saying I was younger than it was but +_9U2Op2g01U-00123-00030469-00030730 it was a it was a church camp so you +_9U2Op2g01U-00124-00030731-00031008 know and and I really just went for the +_9U2Op2g01U-00125-00031010-00031446 fun of it and you know it's when I look +_9U2Op2g01U-00126-00031447-00031695 back over like 11 years of going to this +_9U2Op2g01U-00127-00031697-00031936 camp that you would never think that +_9U2Op2g01U-00128-00031937-00032167 anything good came out of it my first +_9U2Op2g01U-00129-00032168-00032458 year there this kid said his naked butt +_9U2Op2g01U-00130-00032458-00032698 on my sleeping bag and I punched him in +_9U2Op2g01U-00131-00032699-00032733 the face +_9U2Op2g01U-00132-00032734-00033076 threw him on the floor and from there it +_9U2Op2g01U-00133-00033077-00033400 went it got worse and so by the last +_9U2Op2g01U-00134-00033401-00033643 year that I was there I showed up for +_9U2Op2g01U-00135-00033644-00034015 camp and I was I was legally intoxicated +_9U2Op2g01U-00136-00034016-00034342 I'm really just about ran into a truck +_9U2Op2g01U-00137-00034343-00034525 on the highway going the wrong way on a +_9U2Op2g01U-00138-00034526-00034780 divided highway like this got into the +_9U2Op2g01U-00139-00034781-00035190 camp and I met this girl that was there +_9U2Op2g01U-00140-00035191-00035458 and the only reason why I cared about +_9U2Op2g01U-00141-00035459-00035700 her was to she was really attractive and +_9U2Op2g01U-00142-00035701-00035932 so I started hanging around her just +_9U2Op2g01U-00143-00035933-00036258 because of her face and her provoked +_9U2Op2g01U-00144-00036259-00036592 some song so but she got my attention +_9U2Op2g01U-00145-00036593-00037018 and one thing that I started to realize +_9U2Op2g01U-00146-00037019-00037233 was that she really had something +_9U2Op2g01U-00147-00037234-00037475 different than what I had +_9U2Op2g01U-00148-00037476-00037940 and what she had was she had a personal +_9U2Op2g01U-00149-00037941-00038183 relationship with God and I believed +_9U2Op2g01U-00150-00038184-00038477 that there was a God because all the way +_9U2Op2g01U-00151-00038478-00038681 back when I was four +_9U2Op2g01U-00152-00038682-00038929 I went to a church and in this church +_9U2Op2g01U-00153-00038930-00039194 this guy gave a really clear message +_9U2Op2g01U-00154-00039195-00039464 that I still remember and understood at +_9U2Op2g01U-00155-00039465-00039674 the age of four and the message was +_9U2Op2g01U-00156-00039675-00039887 suggest simple it was like this there's +_9U2Op2g01U-00157-00039888-00040109 God in heaven and he's perfect +_9U2Op2g01U-00158-00040110-00040394 and He loves us and we're not perfect +_9U2Op2g01U-00159-00040395-00040661 and so we couldn't stand before him and +_9U2Op2g01U-00160-00040662-00040958 all of our sin and imperfection he said +_9U2Op2g01U-00161-00040959-00041177 but he wants to be with us and He gave +_9U2Op2g01U-00162-00041178-00041459 His Son Jesus Christ to pay for all of +_9U2Op2g01U-00163-00041460-00041636 our sin so that we can have a +_9U2Op2g01U-00164-00041637-00041837 relationship with him and be connected +_9U2Op2g01U-00165-00041838-00042080 with him so that he could give us life +_9U2Op2g01U-00166-00042081-00042395 and in fact just a bit bit earlier I +_9U2Op2g01U-00167-00042396-00042845 pulled out a passage and it says God so +_9U2Op2g01U-00168-00042846-00043148 so loved the world that He gave His only +_9U2Op2g01U-00169-00043149-00043522 born son so that whoever believes in Him +_9U2Op2g01U-00170-00043523-00043817 could not be completely destroyed +_9U2Op2g01U-00171-00043818-00044168 but could have life that is eternal and +_9U2Op2g01U-00172-00044169-00044330 he explained that that way just that +_9U2Op2g01U-00173-00044331-00044693 Jesus death on the cross was was good +_9U2Op2g01U-00174-00044694-00044876 enough that none of us are good enough +_9U2Op2g01U-00175-00044877-00045074 but he was good enough and he paid the +_9U2Op2g01U-00176-00045075-00045125 price +_9U2Op2g01U-00177-00045126-00045470 I understood that at 4 years old and at +_9U2Op2g01U-00178-00045471-00045815 4 years old I said yeah I said I you +_9U2Op2g01U-00179-00045816-00045944 know I wanted to know what happens to me +_9U2Op2g01U-00180-00045945-00046085 when I died I don't want to go to hell I +_9U2Op2g01U-00181-00046086-00046283 want to I want to be with God in heaven +_9U2Op2g01U-00182-00046284-00046727 so I I realized at the age of 4 I +_9U2Op2g01U-00183-00046728-00046952 couldn't save myself and I put my trust +_9U2Op2g01U-00184-00046953-00047258 in Jesus and then when I was at this +_9U2Op2g01U-00185-00047259-00047795 camp but 13 years later looking at this +_9U2Op2g01U-00186-00047796-00047990 girl I realized the second biggest part +_9U2Op2g01U-00187-00047991-00048371 of that is not just getting a free gift +_9U2Op2g01U-00188-00048372-00048680 of life and going to heaven but a free +_9U2Op2g01U-00189-00048681-00049049 gift of knowing God and and when I saw +_9U2Op2g01U-00190-00049050-00049277 that in her I realized that what she had +_9U2Op2g01U-00191-00049278-00049568 was a real relationship and that was the +_9U2Op2g01U-00192-00049569-00049817 next the next thing that thank you +_9U2Op2g01U-00193-00049818-00050108 the next thing that I needed to do was +_9U2Op2g01U-00194-00050109-00050527 was to pick up where I left off and get +_9U2Op2g01U-00195-00050528-00050728 let that relationship +_9U2Op2g01U-00196-00050729-00051064 god grow you know when you you meet +_9U2Op2g01U-00197-00051065-00051325 somebody you could say I know that +_9U2Op2g01U-00198-00051326-00051604 person but as you continue to spend time +_9U2Op2g01U-00199-00051604-00051867 with those people or that let's say that +_9U2Op2g01U-00200-00051869-00052078 person then you get to know them better +_9U2Op2g01U-00201-00052079-00052380 and over time you become closer and +_9U2Op2g01U-00202-00052382-00052542 closer and that's that's what I learned +_9U2Op2g01U-00203-00052544-00052807 from this girl so for me I kind of got +_9U2Op2g01U-00204-00052808-00053074 it in two steps a real simple message at +_9U2Op2g01U-00205-00053075-00053452 the age of four and in it and at the age +_9U2Op2g01U-00206-00053453-00053626 of 17 when I wasn't listening to much +_9U2Op2g01U-00207-00053627-00053866 else the ideas the beautiful girl to get +_9U2Op2g01U-00208-00053866-00054100 my attention to say hey there's more you +_9U2Op2g01U-00209-00054101-00054417 can know me personally and know me in a +_9U2Op2g01U-00210-00054419-00054673 way that just continues to grow every +_9U2Op2g01U-00211-00054674-00055087 day and get closer every day and so but +_9U2Op2g01U-00212-00055088-00055327 at that camp nobody saw a turning point +_9U2Op2g01U-00213-00055328-00055546 when I left there I almost got kicked +_9U2Op2g01U-00214-00055547-00055861 out of that camp for having a fit the +_9U2Op2g01U-00215-00055862-00056278 Jack Daniels in my car and the guy that +_9U2Op2g01U-00216-00056279-00056422 was gonna kick me off said all right +_9U2Op2g01U-00217-00056423-00056539 I'll let you stay for the rest of the +_9U2Op2g01U-00218-00056540-00056827 week dump it out on the ground and I +_9U2Op2g01U-00219-00056828-00057010 said I wanted him I wanted to see a +_9U2Op2g01U-00220-00057011-00057235 little more so I stayed I dumped it out +_9U2Op2g01U-00221-00057236-00057538 stayed finished the week out when I left +_9U2Op2g01U-00222-00057539-00057697 nobody knew that there was a difference +_9U2Op2g01U-00223-00057698-00057832 there's about three weeks after that +_9U2Op2g01U-00224-00057833-00058144 thing was done I came back to my I was +_9U2Op2g01U-00225-00058145-00058312 stayed at my dad's house then I came +_9U2Op2g01U-00226-00058313-00058647 back to his apartment and I was I was +_9U2Op2g01U-00227-00058648-00058903 completely drunk and I sat down and I +_9U2Op2g01U-00228-00058904-00059059 opened up a Bible and I started reading +_9U2Op2g01U-00229-00059060-00059454 it and I I just said okay god I want to +_9U2Op2g01U-00230-00059455-00059782 know you I won't let you have a have a +_9U2Op2g01U-00231-00059783-00060105 say in my life and I want I want you to +_9U2Op2g01U-00232-00060107-00060307 control my life and take me from here +_9U2Op2g01U-00233-00060308-00060523 because it's not working with me in +_9U2Op2g01U-00234-00060524-00060766 charge of me in control and so that +_9U2Op2g01U-00235-00060766-00060942 night was a turning point +_9U2Op2g01U-00236-00060944-00061386 and became you know and it's never been +_9U2Op2g01U-00237-00061387-00061551 perfect since then I want to say that +_9U2Op2g01U-00238-00061552-00061806 but it was a it was a turning point from +_9U2Op2g01U-00239-00061807-00062049 the road I was on that put me in a place +_9U2Op2g01U-00240-00062050-00062457 we're at now we're still imperfect still +_9U2Op2g01U-00241-00062458-00062637 fail and I'm still felled by other +_9U2Op2g01U-00242-00062638-00063136 people but I am I'm a son of a perfect +_9U2Op2g01U-00243-00063137-00063405 father and and that perfect father loves +_9U2Op2g01U-00244-00063406-00063819 me and because I have that what I didn't +_9U2Op2g01U-00245-00063820-00064072 have when I was little I was my dad +_9U2Op2g01U-00246-00064073-00064309 loved me but he was the most messed up +_9U2Op2g01U-00247-00064310-00064447 man I've ever known +_9U2Op2g01U-00248-00064448-00064711 you know I could say I'm the son of a +_9U2Op2g01U-00249-00064712-00064891 perfect father who loves me perfectly +_9U2Op2g01U-00250-00064891-00065432 and never fails me and so whenever +_9U2Op2g01U-00251-00065433-00065785 there's a chance to share that reality I +_9U2Op2g01U-00252-00065786-00066010 think a lot of people just have an idea +_9U2Op2g01U-00253-00066011-00066211 that you know if you're talking about +_9U2Op2g01U-00254-00066212-00066318 the Bible if you're talking about a +_9U2Op2g01U-00255-00066319-00066606 church or any church or religion you're +_9U2Op2g01U-00256-00066607-00066819 talking about a set of rules and you're +_9U2Op2g01U-00257-00066820-00067072 talking about like fix yourself so that +_9U2Op2g01U-00258-00067073-00067257 somebody can like it and this is this is +_9U2Op2g01U-00259-00067258-00067605 different because it's God's saying you +_9U2Op2g01U-00260-00067606-00067863 know let me take away your brokenness +_9U2Op2g01U-00261-00067864-00068187 and I'll give you the chance to be whole +_9U2Op2g01U-00262-00068188-00068461 and complete and to make your life worth +_9U2Op2g01U-00263-00068462-00068643 living give you something to live for it +_9U2Op2g01U-00264-00068644-00068998 and in it and I've got eternity I could +_9U2Op2g01U-00265-00068999-00069237 step out in front of a bus tomorrow and +_9U2Op2g01U-00266-00069238-00069637 and I know where I'm going but between +_9U2Op2g01U-00267-00069638-00069892 now and then I've got I've got somebody +_9U2Op2g01U-00268-00069893-00070113 that's perfect who I can know every day +_9U2Op2g01U-00269-00070114-00070401 and get to know better every day so +_9U2Op2g01U-00270-00070402-00070725 that's the offer of life that's what the +_9U2Op2g01U-00271-00070726-00070956 real message of the Bible is it's not +_9U2Op2g01U-00272-00070957-00071256 fix yourself it's like God let God into +_9U2Op2g01U-00273-00071257-00071473 your life and let him fix all of our +_9U2Op2g01U-00274-00071474-00071901 stuff because we all got it so if +_9U2Op2g01U-00275-00071902-00072103 anybody has any questions about that +_9U2Op2g01U-00276-00072104-00072399 thank you for being I know it's +_9U2Op2g01U-00277-00072400-00072724 opportune are the best chance to tell a +_9U2Op2g01U-00278-00072725-00072922 story that y'all have been really +_9U2Op2g01U-00279-00072923-00073123 patient honest I appreciate your +_9U2Op2g01U-00280-00073124-00073189 attention +_9U2Op2g01U-00281-00073190-00073417 and if you look talk more I would love +_9U2Op2g01U-00282-00073418-00073627 to talk more to let me know or anybody +_9U2Op2g01U-00283-00073628-00073951 else that was sitting here this shared +_9U2Op2g01U-00284-00073952-00074230 their story this week or or any of us +_9U2Op2g01U-00285-00074231-00074521 that we all came over to get to know +_9U2Op2g01U-00286-00074522-00074791 people and enjoy getting to know you and +_9U2Op2g01U-00287-00074792-00075136 if any of you are interested in in the +_9U2Op2g01U-00288-00075137-00075340 stories we have we want to share them +_9U2Op2g01U-00289-00075341-00075505 with you so thank you so much +_9U2Op2g01U-00290-00075506-00075726 appreciated +_9U2Op2g01U-00291-00075727-00076180 [Applause] +_riqwMNwfwk-00000-00000049-00001158 [Music] +_riqwMNwfwk-00001-00001159-00002868 thank you +_riqwMNwfwk-00002-00002869-00004676 thank you +_riqwMNwfwk-00003-00004677-00005650 [Music] +_rNB15MyMVu-00000-00000050-00000497 Abraham Lincoln US President 1861 to 65 +_rNB15MyMVu-00001-00000498-00000743 has been memorialized in many town city +_rNB15MyMVu-00002-00000744-00000935 and county names along with George +_rNB15MyMVu-00003-00000936-00001136 Washington he is an iconic image of +_rNB15MyMVu-00004-00001137-00001832 American democracy and nationalism +_rNB15MyMVu-00005-00001834-00002378 topic changing image +_rNB15MyMVu-00006-00002379-00002654 barrie schwortz a sociologist who has +_rNB15MyMVu-00007-00002655-00002837 examined America's cultural memory +_rNB15MyMVu-00008-00002838-00003146 states that in the 1930s and 1940s the +_rNB15MyMVu-00009-00003147-00003299 memory of Abraham Lincoln was +_rNB15MyMVu-00010-00003300-00003479 practically sacred and provided the +_rNB15MyMVu-00011-00003479-00003754 nation with a moral symbol inspiring and +_rNB15MyMVu-00012-00003755-00004028 guiding American life during the Great +_rNB15MyMVu-00013-00004029-00004271 Depression he says Lincoln served as a +_rNB15MyMVu-00014-00004272-00004433 means for seeing the world's +_rNB15MyMVu-00015-00004434-00004601 disappointments for making its +_rNB15MyMVu-00016-00004602-00004820 sufferings not so much explicable as +_rNB15MyMVu-00017-00004821-00005079 meaningful Franklin D Roosevelt +_rNB15MyMVu-00018-00005080-00005347 preparing America for war used the words +_rNB15MyMVu-00019-00005348-00005528 of the Civil War president to clarify +_rNB15MyMVu-00020-00005529-00005772 the threat posed by Germany and Japan +_rNB15MyMVu-00021-00005773-00006050 Americans asked what would Lincoln do +_rNB15MyMVu-00022-00006051-00006329 however he also finds that since World +_rNB15MyMVu-00023-00006330-00006559 War two Lincoln's symbolic power has +_rNB15MyMVu-00024-00006561-00006833 lost relevance and this fading hero is +_rNB15MyMVu-00025-00006834-00007061 symptomatic of fading confidence in +_rNB15MyMVu-00026-00007062-00007166 national greatness +_rNB15MyMVu-00027-00007167-00007445 he suggested that post-modernism and +_rNB15MyMVu-00028-00007445-00007661 multiculturalism have diluted greatness +_rNB15MyMVu-00029-00007662-00007964 as a concept while Lincoln remains in +_rNB15MyMVu-00030-00007965-00008144 the very top tier of presidential +_rNB15MyMVu-00031-00008145-00008314 rankings all of the presidents have +_rNB15MyMVu-00032-00008315-00008501 slipped in historical prestige in the +_rNB15MyMVu-00033-00008502-00008750 public's mind Schwartz said the reason +_rNB15MyMVu-00034-00008751-00008987 as what he calls the acids of equality +_rNB15MyMVu-00035-00008988-00009307 as American culture became more diverse +_rNB15MyMVu-00036-00009308-00009554 egalitarian and multicultural it also +_rNB15MyMVu-00037-00009555-00009839 suffered a deterioration and corseting +_rNB15MyMVu-00038-00009840-00010072 of traditional symbols and practices +_rNB15MyMVu-00039-00010073-00010331 Lincoln cites remain popular tourist +_rNB15MyMVu-00040-00010332-00010580 attractions but crowds have been in the +_rNB15MyMVu-00041-00010581-00010979 late 1960s 650,000 people a year visited +_rNB15MyMVu-00042-00010980-00011279 the home in Springfield slipping to 393 +_rNB15MyMVu-00043-00011280-00011524 thousand in 2002-2003 +_rNB15MyMVu-00044-00011525-00011789 likewise visits to New Salem fell by +_rNB15MyMVu-00045-00011790-00011966 half probably because of the enormous +_rNB15MyMVu-00046-00011967-00012184 draw of the new museum in Springfield +_rNB15MyMVu-00047-00012185-00012410 visits to the Lincoln Memorial in +_rNB15MyMVu-00048-00012411-00012755 Washington peaked at 4.3 million in 1987 +_rNB15MyMVu-00049-00012756-00013019 and have since declined however crowds +_rNB15MyMVu-00050-00013019-00013208 at Ford's Theatre in Washington have +_rNB15MyMVu-00051-00013209-00013763 grown sharply +_rNB15MyMVu-00052-00013765-00014316 topic organizations +_rNB15MyMVu-00053-00014318-00014556 the oldest continuously operating +_rNB15MyMVu-00054-00014557-00014733 association in the United States +_rNB15MyMVu-00055-00014734-00014889 honoring Lincoln as the Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00056-00014890-00015117 Association of Jersey City in Jersey +_rNB15MyMVu-00057-00015118-00015408 City New Jersey which was formed in 1865 +_rNB15MyMVu-00058-00015409-00015605 shortly after Lincoln's assassination +_rNB15MyMVu-00059-00015606-00015891 the Association has held a banquet in +_rNB15MyMVu-00060-00015893-00016075 Jersey City every year on Lincoln's +_rNB15MyMVu-00061-00016076-00016402 birthday February 12th the Association +_rNB15MyMVu-00062-00016403-00016575 has been addressed by a number of people +_rNB15MyMVu-00063-00016576-00016734 of national importance including +_rNB15MyMVu-00064-00016735-00016989 political figures military veterans +_rNB15MyMVu-00065-00016990-00017275 educators and civil rights leaders the +_rNB15MyMVu-00066-00017276-00017521 Association celebrated its 150th +_rNB15MyMVu-00067-00017522-00017859 anniversary on February 12 2015 which +_rNB15MyMVu-00068-00017860-00018016 included the laying of a wreath at the +_rNB15MyMVu-00069-00018017-00018217 entrance to Jersey City's Lincoln Park +_rNB15MyMVu-00070-00018218-00018517 the association's annual dinner featured +_rNB15MyMVu-00071-00018518-00018711 speaker Todd Brewster author of +_rNB15MyMVu-00072-00018712-00018897 Lincoln's gamble about the struggle to +_rNB15MyMVu-00073-00018898-00019590 create the Emancipation Proclamation +_rNB15MyMVu-00074-00019591-00020117 Topic memorials +_rNB15MyMVu-00075-00020118-00020327 the memorials include the name of the +_rNB15MyMVu-00076-00020328-00020699 capital of Nebraska 1867 the first +_rNB15MyMVu-00077-00020700-00020936 public monument to Abraham Lincoln after +_rNB15MyMVu-00078-00020937-00021136 his death was a statue erected in front +_rNB15MyMVu-00079-00021137-00021371 of the District of Columbia City Hall in +_rNB15MyMVu-00080-00021372-00021622 1868 three years after his assassination +_rNB15MyMVu-00081-00021623-00021896 the first national memorial to Abraham +_rNB15MyMVu-00082-00021897-00022084 Lincoln was the historic Lincoln Highway +_rNB15MyMVu-00083-00022085-00022319 the first road for the automobile across +_rNB15MyMVu-00084-00022320-00022525 the United States of America which was +_rNB15MyMVu-00085-00022526-00022850 dedicated in 1913 predating the 1921 +_rNB15MyMVu-00086-00022851-00023053 dedication of the Lincoln Memorial in +_rNB15MyMVu-00087-00023054-00023386 Washington DC by nine years Lincoln's +_rNB15MyMVu-00088-00023387-00023584 name and image appear in numerous other +_rNB15MyMVu-00089-00023585-00023819 places such as the Lincoln Memorial in +_rNB15MyMVu-00090-00023820-00024058 Washington DC and Lincoln's sculpture on +_rNB15MyMVu-00091-00024059-00024242 Mount Rushmore abraham lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00092-00024243-00024478 birthplace National Historical Park in +_rNB15MyMVu-00093-00024479-00024674 Hodgenville Kentucky Lincoln boyhood +_rNB15MyMVu-00094-00024675-00024880 National Memorial in Lincoln City +_rNB15MyMVu-00095-00024881-00025169 Indiana Lincoln's New Salem Illinois and +_rNB15MyMVu-00096-00025170-00025381 lincoln home national historic site in +_rNB15MyMVu-00097-00025382-00025555 springfield illinois commemorate the +_rNB15MyMVu-00098-00025556-00025789 president the Lincoln Memorial at +_rNB15MyMVu-00099-00025791-00025975 Louisville waterfront park features a +_rNB15MyMVu-00100-00025976-00026186 double life-size sculpture of a seated +_rNB15MyMVu-00101-00026187-00026389 hatless Lincoln surrounded by narrative +_rNB15MyMVu-00102-00026391-00026582 bar relief sculptures by Edward Hamilton +_rNB15MyMVu-00103-00026583-00026812 which depict the history of slavery as +_rNB15MyMVu-00104-00026813-00026957 witnessed by Lincoln in the slave +_rNB15MyMVu-00105-00026958-00027176 markets of Kentucky Ford's Theatre and +_rNB15MyMVu-00106-00027177-00027346 Peterson house where he died are +_rNB15MyMVu-00107-00027347-00027568 maintained as museums as as the Abraham +_rNB15MyMVu-00108-00027569-00027755 Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum +_rNB15MyMVu-00109-00027756-00027946 located in Springfield +_rNB15MyMVu-00110-00027947-00028151 the Lincoln tomb in Oak Ridge Cemetery +_rNB15MyMVu-00111-00028152-00028420 in Springfield Illinois contains his +_rNB15MyMVu-00112-00028422-00028621 remains and those of his wife Mary and +_rNB15MyMVu-00113-00028622-00028850 three of his four sons Edward William +_rNB15MyMVu-00114-00028851-00029132 and Thomas Springfield's Airport is +_rNB15MyMVu-00115-00029133-00029279 named for him the Abraham Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00116-00029280-00029527 Capitol Airport there was also the great +_rNB15MyMVu-00117-00029528-00029720 moments with mr. Lincoln exhibit in +_rNB15MyMVu-00118-00029720-00029855 Disneyland and the Hall of Presidents +_rNB15MyMVu-00119-00029856-00030110 exhibit at Walt Disney World which was +_rNB15MyMVu-00120-00030111-00030314 based on Walt Disney admiring Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00121-00030314-00030942 ever since he was a little boy +_rNB15MyMVu-00122-00030943-00031445 topic desecration +_rNB15MyMVu-00123-00031447-00031782 on the night of November 7th 1876 a +_rNB15MyMVu-00124-00031783-00031941 group of counterfeiters entered +_rNB15MyMVu-00125-00031942-00032094 Lincoln's tomb with the intent of +_rNB15MyMVu-00126-00032095-00032286 absconded with his mortal remains and +_rNB15MyMVu-00127-00032287-00032451 holding them for ransom in order to +_rNB15MyMVu-00128-00032452-00032586 secure the release of their leader +_rNB15MyMVu-00129-00032587-00032829 Benjamin Boyd an imprisoned engraver of +_rNB15MyMVu-00130-00032830-00033090 counterfeit currency plates the group +_rNB15MyMVu-00131-00033091-00033261 entered his tomb but had only succeeded +_rNB15MyMVu-00132-00033262-00033495 in partially dislodging it's marble lid +_rNB15MyMVu-00133-00033496-00033720 before a US Secret Service agent who had +_rNB15MyMVu-00134-00033721-00033900 infiltrated their number alerted law +_rNB15MyMVu-00135-00033901-00034155 enforcement authorities although several +_rNB15MyMVu-00136-00034156-00034371 escaped most served a one-year prison +_rNB15MyMVu-00137-00034372-00034682 term for much of the next decade see +_rNB15MyMVu-00138-00034683-00035058 1876 to 1887 Lincoln's tomb was mobile +_rNB15MyMVu-00139-00035059-00035749 to avoid further unwanted disinterment +_rNB15MyMVu-00140-00035750-00036270 topic statue burning +_rNB15MyMVu-00141-00036271-00036645 on August 16th 2017 a bust of Abraham +_rNB15MyMVu-00142-00036646-00036801 Lincoln in a park in West Englewood +_rNB15MyMVu-00143-00036802-00037017 Chicago was spray painted black and +_rNB15MyMVu-00144-00037018-00037752 later covered in tar and set on fire +_rNB15MyMVu-00145-00037753-00038235 topic stamps currency and coins +_rNB15MyMVu-00146-00038236-00038426 you +_rNB15MyMVu-00147-00038427-00038639 within a year of this death Lincoln's +_rNB15MyMVu-00148-00038640-00038807 image began to be disseminated +_rNB15MyMVu-00149-00038808-00039059 throughout the world on stamps pictured +_rNB15MyMVu-00150-00039060-00039278 on many United States postage stamps +_rNB15MyMVu-00151-00039279-00039488 Lincoln as the only u.s. president to +_rNB15MyMVu-00152-00039489-00039710 appear on a u.s. airmail stamp Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00153-00039711-00039908 was one of five people to be depicted on +_rNB15MyMVu-00154-00039909-00040124 United States paper currency federal +_rNB15MyMVu-00155-00040125-00040313 issue during their lifetime along with +_rNB15MyMVu-00156-00040314-00040520 salmon P chase Francis II spinner +_rNB15MyMVu-00157-00040521-00040841 Spencer M Clark and Winfield Scott he +_rNB15MyMVu-00158-00040842-00040976 has been featured on several +_rNB15MyMVu-00159-00040977-00041503 denominations $1 $5 $10 $20 $100 and +_rNB15MyMVu-00160-00041504-00041747 $500 across different issues +_rNB15MyMVu-00161-00041748-00042008 eg demand motes legal tender gold +_rNB15MyMVu-00162-00042009-00042236 certificates silver certificates etc +_rNB15MyMVu-00163-00042237-00042482 since the first federally issued US +_rNB15MyMVu-00164-00042483-00042824 banknote in 1861 in addition to the +_rNB15MyMVu-00165-00042825-00043100 modern United States $5 bill currency +_rNB15MyMVu-00166-00043101-00043271 honouring the president includes the +_rNB15MyMVu-00167-00043272-00043457 Lincoln Cent which represents the first +_rNB15MyMVu-00168-00043458-00043706 regularly circulating US coin to feature +_rNB15MyMVu-00169-00043707-00043935 an actual persons image Lincoln's image +_rNB15MyMVu-00170-00043936-00044174 on the $5 bill was used by Salvador Dali +_rNB15MyMVu-00171-00044175-00044339 to help commemorate the u.s. +_rNB15MyMVu-00172-00044340-00044570 Bicentennial with his creation of gala +_rNB15MyMVu-00173-00044571-00044801 looking at the Mediterranean Sea which +_rNB15MyMVu-00174-00044802-00044996 at a distance of 20 meters is +_rNB15MyMVu-00175-00044997-00045227 transformed into the portrait of Abraham +_rNB15MyMVu-00176-00045228-00045575 Lincoln homage to Rothko and Lincoln in +_rNB15MyMVu-00177-00045576-00045758 division the earlier of which was +_rNB15MyMVu-00178-00045759-00045938 displayed at the Guggenheim in New York +_rNB15MyMVu-00179-00045939-00046681 during the 1976 Bicentennial +_rNB15MyMVu-00180-00046682-00047215 topic international +_rNB15MyMVu-00181-00047216-00047458 the first statue of Lincoln outside the +_rNB15MyMVu-00182-00047459-00047660 United States was erected in Edinburgh +_rNB15MyMVu-00183-00047661-00048017 Scotland in 1893 the work of George +_rNB15MyMVu-00184-00048018-00048245 Edwin Bissell it stands on a memorial to +_rNB15MyMVu-00185-00048246-00048424 Scots immigrants who enlisted with the +_rNB15MyMVu-00186-00048425-00048611 Union during the Civil War the only +_rNB15MyMVu-00187-00048612-00048808 memorial to the war erected outside the +_rNB15MyMVu-00188-00048809-00049123 United States a second statue by George +_rNB15MyMVu-00189-00049124-00049342 Gray Barnard was erected in Manchester +_rNB15MyMVu-00190-00049343-00049720 England in 1919 nowadays situated in +_rNB15MyMVu-00191-00049721-00049930 Lincoln Square south of Manchester Town +_rNB15MyMVu-00192-00049931-00050158 Hall the statue commemorates the impact +_rNB15MyMVu-00193-00050159-00050368 the American Civil War had on the cotton +_rNB15MyMVu-00194-00050369-00050590 cloth producing region of Manchester and +_rNB15MyMVu-00195-00050591-00050849 Lancashire a large statue of Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00196-00050850-00051046 standing by Saint Gaudens was unveiled +_rNB15MyMVu-00197-00051047-00051295 near Westminster Abbey in London on July +_rNB15MyMVu-00198-00051296-00051698 28 1920 in an elaborate ceremony the +_rNB15MyMVu-00199-00051699-00051892 principal addresses were delivered in +_rNB15MyMVu-00200-00051894-00052276 central Hall Westminster in 1964 United +_rNB15MyMVu-00201-00052277-00052405 States President Lyndon Johnson +_rNB15MyMVu-00202-00052407-00052663 presented a st. Gaudens to the people of +_rNB15MyMVu-00203-00052664-00052879 Mexico which is displayed in Mexico +_rNB15MyMVu-00204-00052880-00053494 City's Park Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00205-00053495-00054004 topic birthday +_rNB15MyMVu-00206-00054005-00054316 Abraham Lincoln's birthday February 12th +_rNB15MyMVu-00207-00054317-00054524 was never a national holiday but it was +_rNB15MyMVu-00208-00054525-00054740 at one time observed by as many as 30 +_rNB15MyMVu-00209-00054741-00055133 states in 1971 Presidents Day became a +_rNB15MyMVu-00210-00055134-00055370 national holiday combining Lincoln's and +_rNB15MyMVu-00211-00055371-00055565 Washington's birthdays and replacing +_rNB15MyMVu-00212-00055566-00055755 most states celebration of his birthday +_rNB15MyMVu-00213-00055757-00056045 the Abraham Lincoln Association was +_rNB15MyMVu-00214-00056046-00056254 formed in 1908 to commemorate the +_rNB15MyMVu-00215-00056255-00056554 centennial of Lincoln's birth in 2000 +_rNB15MyMVu-00216-00056555-00056777 Congress established the Abraham Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00217-00056778-00056966 Bicentennial Commission to commemorate +_rNB15MyMVu-00218-00056966-00057754 his 200th birthday in February 2009 +_rNB15MyMVu-00219-00057754-00058405 topic sculpture in the United States +_rNB15MyMVu-00220-00058407-00058721 bah relief on the Michigan soldiers and +_rNB15MyMVu-00221-00058722-00059176 sailors monument Detroit Michigan 1867 +_rNB15MyMVu-00222-00059177-00059486 Abraham Lincoln lot Flannery Washington +_rNB15MyMVu-00223-00059487-00059957 DC 1868 Abraham Lincoln Henry Kirk brown +_rNB15MyMVu-00224-00059958-00060349 Union Square New York City New York 1870 +_rNB15MyMVu-00225-00060350-00060592 Abraham Lincoln Henry Kirk Brown +_rNB15MyMVu-00226-00060594-00061109 Prospect Park Brooklyn NY 1869 Abraham +_rNB15MyMVu-00227-00061110-00061346 Lincoln Vinny ream United States Capitol +_rNB15MyMVu-00228-00061347-00061865 Rotunda Washington DC 1871 lincoln Tomb +_rNB15MyMVu-00229-00061866-00062069 Larkin goldsmith Meade Springfield +_rNB15MyMVu-00230-00062070-00062450 Illinois 1874 emancipation memorial +_rNB15MyMVu-00231-00062451-00063002 Thomas ball Washington DC 1876 Abraham +_rNB15MyMVu-00232-00063003-00063260 Lincoln the Man aka standing Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00233-00063261-00063514 Augustus saint-gaudens Chicago Illinois +_rNB15MyMVu-00234-00063515-00063923 1887 Abraham Lincoln statue in Park +_rNB15MyMVu-00235-00063924-00064370 Clermont Iowa 1902 Abraham Lincoln the +_rNB15MyMVu-00236-00064371-00064574 head of state aka seated Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00237-00064575-00064828 Augustus saint-gaudens Chicago Illinois +_rNB15MyMVu-00238-00064829-00065252 1908 Abraham Lincoln Adolph Alexander +_rNB15MyMVu-00239-00065253-00065581 Weinmann Hodgenville Kentucky 1909 +_rNB15MyMVu-00240-00065582-00065891 seated Lincoln Gutzon Borglum Newark New +_rNB15MyMVu-00241-00065892-00066134 Jersey 1911 +_rNB15MyMVu-00242-00066135-00066347 Abraham Lincoln Adolph Alexander +_rNB15MyMVu-00243-00066348-00066530 Weinmann Kentucky state capital +_rNB15MyMVu-00244-00066531-00066932 Frankfort Kentucky 1911 standing Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00245-00066933-00067130 at the Nebraska State Capitol Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00246-00067131-00067477 Nebraska Daniel Chester French 1912 +_rNB15MyMVu-00247-00067478-00067718 Abraham Lincoln at the Pennsylvania +_rNB15MyMVu-00248-00067719-00067997 State Memorial J autosh wiser Gettysburg +_rNB15MyMVu-00249-00067998-00068432 Pennsylvania 1913 Abraham Lincoln George +_rNB15MyMVu-00250-00068433-00068821 Gray Barnard Cincinnati Ohio 1917 +_rNB15MyMVu-00251-00068822-00069038 Abraham Lincoln in the Lincoln Memorial +_rNB15MyMVu-00252-00069039-00069545 Daniel Chester French 1914 222 Abraham +_rNB15MyMVu-00253-00069546-00069827 Lincoln Civic Center San Francisco Hague +_rNB15MyMVu-00254-00069828-00070187 Patti Jean 1926 Lincoln the lawyer +_rNB15MyMVu-00255-00070188-00070694 Urbana Illinois Lorado Taft 1927 Abraham +_rNB15MyMVu-00256-00070695-00070913 Lincoln South Park Blocks Portland +_rNB15MyMVu-00257-00070914-00071303 Oregon George fight waters 1928 Mount +_rNB15MyMVu-00258-00071304-00071761 Rushmore Gutzon Borglum 1927 to 1941 +_rNB15MyMVu-00259-00071762-00072020 Lincoln monument Dixon Illinois +_rNB15MyMVu-00260-00072021-00072386 Leonard crew Nell 1930 Lincoln Bank +_rNB15MyMVu-00261-00072387-00072644 tower three panels pioneer backwoodsmen +_rNB15MyMVu-00262-00072645-00072803 preservation of the Union and +_rNB15MyMVu-00263-00072804-00073004 emancipation proclamation fort wayne +_rNB15MyMVu-00264-00073005-00073412 indiana 1930 emancipation proclamation +_rNB15MyMVu-00265-00073413-00073619 Nebraska State Capitol Leigh Laurie +_rNB15MyMVu-00266-00073620-00074060 Lincoln Nebraska 1932 Abraham Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00267-00074061-00074261 the Hoosier Youth Paul Manship Fort +_rNB15MyMVu-00268-00074262-00074675 Wayne Indiana 1932 Abraham Lincoln walks +_rNB15MyMVu-00269-00074676-00074993 at midnight by fred torry in 1933 cast +_rNB15MyMVu-00270-00074994-00075212 by bernard weeper west virginia state +_rNB15MyMVu-00271-00075213-00075439 capital 1974 +_rNB15MyMVu-00272-00075440-00075713 Lincoln Trail State Memorial Nellie Vern +_rNB15MyMVu-00273-00075714-00076138 Walker near Lawrenceville Illinois 1938 +_rNB15MyMVu-00274-00076139-00076390 Abraham Lincoln monument Samuel Cashman +_rNB15MyMVu-00275-00076391-00076801 epsilon D Michigan 1938 the Chicago +_rNB15MyMVu-00276-00076802-00077041 Lincoln aka beardless Lincoln a vard +_rNB15MyMVu-00277-00077042-00077497 Fairbanks Chicago Illinois 1956 young +_rNB15MyMVu-00278-00077498-00077767 Abe Lincoln David K Reubens Indianapolis +_rNB15MyMVu-00279-00077768-00078283 Indiana 1962 young Abraham Lincoln also +_rNB15MyMVu-00280-00078284-00078588 known as Abraham Lincoln on horseback +_rNB15MyMVu-00281-00078589-00078930 Abraham Lincoln equestrian monument and +_rNB15MyMVu-00282-00078931-00079182 Abraham Lincoln on the Prairie Anna +_rNB15MyMVu-00283-00079183-00079480 Hyatt Huntington editions located in +_rNB15MyMVu-00284-00079481-00079740 Northwood Institute Midland Michigan +_rNB15MyMVu-00285-00079741-00079999 1963 State University of New York +_rNB15MyMVu-00286-00080000-00080224 College of environmental science and +_rNB15MyMVu-00287-00080225-00080596 forestry Syracuse New York 1963 Salem +_rNB15MyMVu-00288-00080597-00080955 State Park Petersburg Illinois 1963-64 +_rNB15MyMVu-00289-00080956-00081463 Lincoln City Oregon 1965 mr. Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00290-00081464-00081811 Square Clinton Illinois state of Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00291-00081812-00082063 outside the old ironworks that powered +_rNB15MyMVu-00292-00082064-00082324 the Confederate artillery Richmond +_rNB15MyMVu-00293-00082325-00082836 Virginia +_rNB15MyMVu-00294-00082837-00083341 topic see also +_rNB15MyMVu-00295-00083342-00083627 list of Union civil war monuments and +_rNB15MyMVu-00296-00083628-00083942 memorials list of memorials to the Grand +_rNB15MyMVu-00297-00083943-00084245 Army of the Republic list of memorials +_rNB15MyMVu-00298-00084246-00084656 to robert e lee list of memorials to +_rNB15MyMVu-00299-00084657-00084953 jefferson davis list of monuments and +_rNB15MyMVu-00300-00084954-00085136 memorials of the Confederate States of +_rNB15MyMVu-00301-00085137-00085469 America removal of Confederate monuments +_rNB15MyMVu-00302-00085470-00085947 and memorials +_rNB15MyMVu-00303-00085948-00086434 topic notes +_rNB15MyMVu-00304-00086435-00086797 you +_rNB15MyMVu-00305-00086798-00087340 topic further reading +_rNB15MyMVu-00306-00087341-00087750 Burke heimer Michael 2003 100 essential +_rNB15MyMVu-00307-00087751-00088092 lincoln books cumberland house ISBN nine +_rNB15MyMVu-00308-00088093-00088305 seven eight one five eight one eight two +_rNB15MyMVu-00309-00088306-00088728 three six nine one Dennis Matthew red +_rNB15MyMVu-00310-00088729-00088968 white and blue letter days in American +_rNB15MyMVu-00311-00088969-00089409 calendar 2002 Gallagher Gary causes one +_rNB15MyMVu-00312-00089410-00089655 lost and forgotten how Hollywood and +_rNB15MyMVu-00313-00089656-00089847 popular art shape what we know about the +_rNB15MyMVu-00314-00089848-00090173 Civil War 2008 ex served and text search +_rNB15MyMVu-00315-00090174-00090537 Hogan Jackie Lincoln Inc selling the +_rNB15MyMVu-00316-00090538-00090717 sixteenth president in contemporary +_rNB15MyMVu-00317-00090718-00091013 America 2011 excerpt and text search +_rNB15MyMVu-00318-00091014-00091398 huff Bauer Benjamin presidential temples +_rNB15MyMVu-00319-00091399-00091638 how memorials in libraries shaped public +_rNB15MyMVu-00320-00091639-00092109 memory 2006 Neely mark the Abraham +_rNB15MyMVu-00321-00092110-00092505 Lincoln encyclopedia 1984 Peterson +_rNB15MyMVu-00322-00092506-00092735 Merrill D Lincoln in American memory +_rNB15MyMVu-00323-00092736-00093009 1994 an encyclopedic catalogue of +_rNB15MyMVu-00324-00093010-00093381 viewpoints Sandage Scott a a marble +_rNB15MyMVu-00325-00093382-00093612 house divided the Lincoln Memorial the +_rNB15MyMVu-00326-00093613-00093834 civil rights movement and the politics +_rNB15MyMVu-00327-00093835-00094344 of memory 1939 to 1963 Journal of +_rNB15MyMVu-00328-00094345-00094694 American history vol ad number one John +_rNB15MyMVu-00329-00094695-00095354 1993 PP 135 to 167 in JSTOR +_rNB15MyMVu-00330-00095355-00095685 human-powered Corning Amy Schwartz Barry +_rNB15MyMVu-00331-00095686-00096009 framing variations and collective memory +_rNB15MyMVu-00332-00096010-00096399 social science history 201 2 3 6 number +_rNB15MyMVu-00333-00096400-00097059 4 PP 451 to 472 Swartz Barry Abraham +_rNB15MyMVu-00334-00097060-00097246 Lincoln and the forge of national memory +_rNB15MyMVu-00335-00097247-00097605 2000 excerpt and text search Schwartz +_rNB15MyMVu-00336-00097606-00097929 Barry Abraham Lincoln in the post heroic +_rNB15MyMVu-00337-00097930-00098112 era history and memory in late +_rNB15MyMVu-00338-00098113-00098421 twentieth-century America 2009 excerpt +_rNB15MyMVu-00339-00098422-00098799 and text search Smith Adam IP the cult +_rNB15MyMVu-00340-00098800-00099003 of Abraham Lincoln and the strange +_rNB15MyMVu-00341-00099004-00099222 survival of liberal England in the era +_rNB15MyMVu-00342-00099223-00099576 of the world wars 20th century British +_rNB15MyMVu-00343-00099577-00100080 history December 2010 21 number 4 PP 486 +_rNB15MyMVu-00344-00100081-00100527 to 509 Spielberg Steven Goodwin Doris +_rNB15MyMVu-00345-00100528-00100742 Kearns Kushner Tony +_rNB15MyMVu-00346-00100743-00100948 mr. Lincoln goes to Hollywood +_rNB15MyMVu-00347-00100949-00101563 Smithsonian 201 243 number 7 PP 46 253 +_rNB15MyMVu-00348-00101564-00101846 Thomas Christopher a the Lincoln +_rNB15MyMVu-00349-00101847-00102509 Memorial in American life 2002 +_rNB15MyMVu-00350-00102510-00103057 topic external links +_rNB15MyMVu-00351-00103058-00103231 the Abraham Lincoln Bicentennial +_rNB15MyMVu-00352-00103232-00103523 Commission +_sguyaxZ9dI-00000-00000128-00000327 on december 6 the 42nd fighter wing +_sguyaxZ9dI-00001-00000328-00000495 conducted a family day +_sguyaxZ9dI-00002-00000496-00000638 it was a way to thank the airmen and +_sguyaxZ9dI-00003-00000639-00000807 their family for all the hard work and +_sguyaxZ9dI-00004-00000808-00000983 sacrifices they had made throughout the +_sguyaxZ9dI-00005-00000984-00001095 year +_sguyaxZ9dI-00006-00001096-00001223 the event started with a commander's +_sguyaxZ9dI-00007-00001224-00001423 call the highlight of which was a highly +_sguyaxZ9dI-00008-00001424-00001566 motivating speech from the base +_sguyaxZ9dI-00009-00001567-00001734 commander's high school football coach +_sguyaxZ9dI-00010-00001735-00001951 gary weller coach weller shared his +_sguyaxZ9dI-00011-00001952-00002159 story of resiliency after a hit and run +_sguyaxZ9dI-00012-00002160-00002342 left him severely injured and in a coma +_sguyaxZ9dI-00013-00002343-00002495 for 35 days +_sguyaxZ9dI-00014-00002496-00002687 when he woke up he was determined to get +_sguyaxZ9dI-00015-00002688-00002918 back to his life and family +_sguyaxZ9dI-00016-00002919-00003142 i said to the doctor well actually i +_sguyaxZ9dI-00017-00003143-00003279 couldn't talk +_sguyaxZ9dI-00018-00003279-00003495 and i had one of those tubes in my +_sguyaxZ9dI-00019-00003496-00003727 throat couldn't talk but they gave me a +_sguyaxZ9dI-00020-00003728-00003983 dry erase board and i could write and +_sguyaxZ9dI-00021-00003984-00004143 the first thing that i wrote on that +_sguyaxZ9dI-00022-00004144-00004438 board was let's go the rest of the day +_sguyaxZ9dI-00023-00004439-00004615 was full of fun activities that airmen +_sguyaxZ9dI-00024-00004616-00004799 and their family could enjoy +_sguyaxZ9dI-00025-00004800-00005015 from organized sports to fun rides for +_sguyaxZ9dI-00026-00005016-00005335 the kids and a surprise from santa +_sguyaxZ9dI-00027-00005336-00005535 the day ended with over 4 000 service +_sguyaxZ9dI-00028-00005536-00005702 members and their guests enjoying a free +_sguyaxZ9dI-00029-00005703-00005895 comedy concert that the air force +_sguyaxZ9dI-00030-00005896-00006079 reserve recruiting team put together +_sguyaxZ9dI-00031-00006080-00006238 that featured a performance from actor +_sguyaxZ9dI-00032-00006239-00006439 and comedian chris tucker because that's +_sguyaxZ9dI-00033-00006440-00006639 the last time i let wesley snipes help +_sguyaxZ9dI-00034-00006640-00006839 me out with my taxes +_sguyaxZ9dI-00035-00006840-00007014 reporting for the 42nd fighter wing +_sguyaxZ9dI-00036-00007015-00007246 public affairs office technical sergeant +_sguyaxZ9dI-00037-00007247-00007588 lionel castellano +_vR82JAjxDM-00000-00000008-00000151 hey guys welcome back to my channel so +_vR82JAjxDM-00001-00000152-00000359 today i'm gonna be playing part three of +_vR82JAjxDM-00002-00000360-00000526 little nightmares the secrets of them +_vR82JAjxDM-00003-00000527-00000703 all already played part one and two the +_vR82JAjxDM-00004-00000704-00000862 depths in the hideaway so if you haven't +_vR82JAjxDM-00005-00000863-00000991 seen that i'll leave it up there for you +_vR82JAjxDM-00006-00000992-00001119 to watch so make sure you like comment +_vR82JAjxDM-00007-00001120-00001247 subscribe follow my social media links +_vR82JAjxDM-00008-00001248-00001366 down below without further ado let's go +_vR82JAjxDM-00009-00001367-00001910 with the video +_vR82JAjxDM-00010-00001911-00002191 we're alive okay good +_vR82JAjxDM-00011-00002192-00002439 so last we what left off we was in the +_vR82JAjxDM-00012-00002440-00002639 elevator and the woman was down there +_vR82JAjxDM-00013-00002640-00002902 she was in here so now we gotta +_vR82JAjxDM-00014-00002903-00003047 meet up with her +_vR82JAjxDM-00015-00003048-00003943 okay so we're going up here +_vR82JAjxDM-00016-00003944-00004143 okay good okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00017-00004144-00004319 let me get a good swing now let me get a +_vR82JAjxDM-00018-00004320-00004638 good swing +_vR82JAjxDM-00019-00004639-00004767 got it yes +_vR82JAjxDM-00020-00004768-00005006 good +_vR82JAjxDM-00021-00005007-00005263 oh it's so dark +_vR82JAjxDM-00022-00005264-00005686 oh a name +_vR82JAjxDM-00023-00005687-00005967 wait +_vR82JAjxDM-00024-00005968-00006391 where'd it go +_vR82JAjxDM-00025-00006392-00007623 how do i get up there +_vR82JAjxDM-00026-00007623-00008223 the ominous music +_vR82JAjxDM-00027-00008224-00008742 um what's all this +_vR82JAjxDM-00028-00008743-00009183 oh there's that eye again +_vR82JAjxDM-00029-00009184-00009655 let's do the carpet +_vR82JAjxDM-00030-00009656-00010046 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00031-00010047-00010463 yeah the woman +_vR82JAjxDM-00032-00010464-00010574 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00033-00010575-00011159 is that her without the mask +_vR82JAjxDM-00034-00011160-00011278 i don't know i'm supposed to go but it +_vR82JAjxDM-00035-00011279-00011646 got quiet +_vR82JAjxDM-00036-00011647-00012199 he got real quiet +_vR82JAjxDM-00037-00012200-00012735 y'all hear that +_vR82JAjxDM-00038-00012736-00012854 playing music +_vR82JAjxDM-00039-00012855-00013094 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00040-00013095-00013911 turn it off just in case +_vR82JAjxDM-00041-00013912-00014083 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00042-00014084-00014375 my gosh +_vR82JAjxDM-00043-00014376-00014591 i see a key +_vR82JAjxDM-00044-00014591-00014783 why she always looking in the mirror +_vR82JAjxDM-00045-00014784-00015111 this time ain't broken i don't like it +_vR82JAjxDM-00046-00015112-00015358 yeah it's broken is it +_vR82JAjxDM-00047-00015359-00015566 yeah it is +_vR82JAjxDM-00048-00015568-00015766 okay so we got some music that's going +_vR82JAjxDM-00049-00015768-00015855 on +_vR82JAjxDM-00050-00015856-00016191 how am i gonna get the key +_vR82JAjxDM-00051-00016191-00016443 it's right there +_vR82JAjxDM-00052-00016444-00017319 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00053-00017320-00017864 okay lights on +_vR82JAjxDM-00054-00017865-00018119 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00055-00018120-00018311 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00056-00018312-00018558 my control is still +_vR82JAjxDM-00057-00018559-00018879 beating like a heart +_vR82JAjxDM-00058-00018880-00019327 there's so much stuff to explore in here +_vR82JAjxDM-00059-00019328-00019894 okay we got statues +_vR82JAjxDM-00060-00019895-00020239 the door okay so it's a puzzle listen +_vR82JAjxDM-00061-00020240-00020399 so whatever's supposed to go on in here +_vR82JAjxDM-00062-00020400-00020847 is supposed to open the door +_vR82JAjxDM-00063-00020848-00021358 who is this lady +_vR82JAjxDM-00064-00021359-00021527 i guess we're gonna find out in this one +_vR82JAjxDM-00065-00021528-00021678 because +_vR82JAjxDM-00066-00021679-00021927 i'm assuming we're either gonna run into +_vR82JAjxDM-00067-00021928-00022175 six but in my other game we didn't run +_vR82JAjxDM-00068-00022176-00022614 into him at all +_vR82JAjxDM-00069-00022615-00022830 unless this happened no cause +_vR82JAjxDM-00070-00022831-00023007 we saw six +_vR82JAjxDM-00071-00023008-00023247 in the last episode in the hideaway +_vR82JAjxDM-00072-00023248-00023575 oh there it is +_vR82JAjxDM-00073-00023576-00024311 what is this a square oh where's blood +_vR82JAjxDM-00074-00024312-00024494 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00075-00024495-00024807 oh snap oh [__] +_vR82JAjxDM-00076-00024808-00025983 wait +_vR82JAjxDM-00077-00025983-00026327 do i have to put something in his place +_vR82JAjxDM-00078-00026327-00026574 i probably do +_vR82JAjxDM-00079-00026575-00027151 she can hear all that +_vR82JAjxDM-00080-00027152-00027846 all right let's find this thing +_vR82JAjxDM-00081-00027847-00027943 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00082-00027944-00028590 so now it was a climb up here +_vR82JAjxDM-00083-00028591-00028911 what is up here +_vR82JAjxDM-00084-00028912-00029087 oh got a save point +_vR82JAjxDM-00085-00029088-00029390 i see a lever +_vR82JAjxDM-00086-00029391-00029551 i don't know which lever to pull first +_vR82JAjxDM-00087-00029552-00030167 is it this one +_vR82JAjxDM-00088-00030168-00030727 oh god +_vR82JAjxDM-00089-00030727-00031590 all those lights +_vR82JAjxDM-00090-00031591-00032127 what's this +_vR82JAjxDM-00091-00032127-00032662 what +_vR82JAjxDM-00092-00032663-00032831 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00093-00032832-00033031 so i'm supposed to shine the light +_vR82JAjxDM-00094-00033032-00033231 i see eyeballs +_vR82JAjxDM-00095-00033232-00033639 on the roof right there +_vR82JAjxDM-00096-00033640-00033735 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00097-00033736-00033871 i got all of them +_vR82JAjxDM-00098-00033872-00034393 now what +_vR82JAjxDM-00099-00034394-00035135 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00100-00035136-00035399 oh lord it's dark in here +_vR82JAjxDM-00101-00035400-00035974 know your surroundings +_vR82JAjxDM-00102-00035975-00036639 don't let these statues fool you girl +_vR82JAjxDM-00103-00036640-00036774 i wonder if +_vR82JAjxDM-00104-00036775-00036951 i don't know if she's in the room +_vR82JAjxDM-00105-00036952-00037062 anymore +_vR82JAjxDM-00106-00037063-00037295 okay i see pictures on the wall there's +_vR82JAjxDM-00107-00037296-00037423 that little creature thing right there +_vR82JAjxDM-00108-00037424-00037799 you know so yeah i see that right there +_vR82JAjxDM-00109-00037800-00038207 anybody else want you to recognize +_vR82JAjxDM-00110-00038208-00038374 i see a picture +_vR82JAjxDM-00111-00038375-00038718 of a little girl +_vR82JAjxDM-00112-00038719-00038887 mr faces they all look like that why do +_vR82JAjxDM-00113-00038888-00039039 you all look like that +_vR82JAjxDM-00114-00039040-00039199 there's the janitor i see the janitor up +_vR82JAjxDM-00115-00039200-00039446 there +_vR82JAjxDM-00116-00039447-00039807 i think this [__] +_vR82JAjxDM-00117-00039808-00039974 does she know them are they all family +_vR82JAjxDM-00118-00039975-00040118 or something +_vR82JAjxDM-00119-00040119-00040662 that's the case why do i look like that +_vR82JAjxDM-00120-00040663-00041039 no more pictures okay we got +_vR82JAjxDM-00121-00041040-00041151 uh +_vR82JAjxDM-00122-00041152-00041774 i don't know who these people are +_vR82JAjxDM-00123-00041775-00041999 ugh look at him +_vR82JAjxDM-00124-00042000-00042102 she look +_vR82JAjxDM-00125-00042103-00042287 nah nevermind somebody said she got to +_vR82JAjxDM-00126-00042288-00042374 look +_vR82JAjxDM-00127-00042375-00042495 i was gonna say she looked the most +_vR82JAjxDM-00128-00042496-00042895 decent one not all of them as a kid +_vR82JAjxDM-00129-00042896-00043143 and i don't know +_vR82JAjxDM-00130-00043144-00043311 so um +_vR82JAjxDM-00131-00043312-00043495 i wonder if it has anything to do with +_vR82JAjxDM-00132-00043496-00044062 these pictures up here +_vR82JAjxDM-00133-00044063-00044390 i see that weird dude right there +_vR82JAjxDM-00134-00044391-00044711 to the gnomes +_vR82JAjxDM-00135-00044712-00045127 i see that little kid his face sagging i +_vR82JAjxDM-00136-00045128-00045271 see +_vR82JAjxDM-00137-00045272-00045415 yeah i'm seeing some of these pictures +_vR82JAjxDM-00138-00045416-00045535 on here +_vR82JAjxDM-00139-00045536-00045758 or these people in the wall over there +_vR82JAjxDM-00140-00045759-00046271 okay i see that picture +_vR82JAjxDM-00141-00046272-00046583 did i see i think i saw his picture too +_vR82JAjxDM-00142-00046584-00047327 did it +_vR82JAjxDM-00143-00047328-00047518 i saw +_vR82JAjxDM-00144-00047519-00047683 this +_vR82JAjxDM-00145-00047684-00048262 picture i saw this picture +_vR82JAjxDM-00146-00048263-00048862 and i know i saw his picture for sure +_vR82JAjxDM-00147-00048863-00049486 oh so it was a puzzle +_vR82JAjxDM-00148-00049487-00049702 what's that +_vR82JAjxDM-00149-00049703-00049958 oh it's like a boss fight right here +_vR82JAjxDM-00150-00049959-00050390 oh i know it's not +_vR82JAjxDM-00151-00050391-00050590 oh i see the light i see that eye right +_vR82JAjxDM-00152-00050591-00050790 there +_vR82JAjxDM-00153-00050791-00051190 so what's gonna happen if i take it off +_vR82JAjxDM-00154-00051191-00051566 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00155-00051567-00051942 what the hell +_vR82JAjxDM-00156-00051944-00052623 these bottles again +_vR82JAjxDM-00157-00052624-00053087 what's in there +_vR82JAjxDM-00158-00053088-00053519 must be somebody's soul or something +_vR82JAjxDM-00159-00053520-00053654 what are they doing +_vR82JAjxDM-00160-00053655-00053926 just in here +_vR82JAjxDM-00161-00053927-00054311 we're just gonna get out of there +_vR82JAjxDM-00162-00054312-00054519 and also notice that the boy +_vR82JAjxDM-00163-00054520-00054838 um breath was also visible yeah it's +_vR82JAjxDM-00164-00054839-00055119 cold it must be real cold in here like +_vR82JAjxDM-00165-00055120-00055359 not so friendly hostile +_vR82JAjxDM-00166-00055360-00055559 whatever you want to call it +_vR82JAjxDM-00167-00055560-00055687 you could have did the same thing when +_vR82JAjxDM-00168-00055688-00055863 six was in here +_vR82JAjxDM-00169-00055864-00055966 i'm gonna just take it and see what +_vR82JAjxDM-00170-00055967-00056204 happens +_vR82JAjxDM-00171-00056204-00056647 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00172-00056648-00056894 oh hell +_vR82JAjxDM-00173-00056895-00057071 hi +_vR82JAjxDM-00174-00057072-00057415 yo that thing just came out of nowhere +_vR82JAjxDM-00175-00057416-00057719 oh [__] let me get out of here +_vR82JAjxDM-00176-00057720-00057935 whoa +_vR82JAjxDM-00177-00057936-00058119 i see a bun +_vR82JAjxDM-00178-00058120-00058399 go go go go go go run run run +_vR82JAjxDM-00179-00058400-00058607 okay i got it +_vR82JAjxDM-00180-00058608-00058854 now what +_vR82JAjxDM-00181-00058855-00059542 i can't see it's so dark +_vR82JAjxDM-00182-00059544-00060399 i hear it whispering +_vR82JAjxDM-00183-00060400-00060647 oh hell no what is that +_vR82JAjxDM-00184-00060648-00060991 it was all right i saw shadows +_vR82JAjxDM-00185-00060991-00061350 what the hell did i just unlock +_vR82JAjxDM-00186-00061351-00061526 and knock it down +_vR82JAjxDM-00187-00061527-00061759 i'm about to put it on this +_vR82JAjxDM-00188-00061760-00061942 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00189-00061944-00062303 she got a whole elevator in her room +_vR82JAjxDM-00190-00062304-00062654 okay i see you +_vR82JAjxDM-00191-00062655-00062935 so we're going to take this though +_vR82JAjxDM-00192-00062936-00063126 let me hurry up because i heard some +_vR82JAjxDM-00193-00063127-00063391 real freaky mess in that room it's like +_vR82JAjxDM-00194-00063391-00064247 little kids +_vR82JAjxDM-00195-00064248-00064406 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00196-00064407-00065103 i'll put it here +_vR82JAjxDM-00197-00065104-00065215 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00198-00065216-00065423 i think i get the hang of this now +_vR82JAjxDM-00199-00065424-00065647 so i just got to find the +_vR82JAjxDM-00200-00065648-00065894 circle and square +_vR82JAjxDM-00201-00065895-00066199 i had solved the puzzle earlier +_vR82JAjxDM-00202-00066200-00066359 but i didn't finish that's why the +_vR82JAjxDM-00203-00066360-00066671 bookcase didn't open earlier +_vR82JAjxDM-00204-00066672-00066838 so i'm glad i came back in here again +_vR82JAjxDM-00205-00066839-00066982 and finished the puzzle because i wasn't +_vR82JAjxDM-00206-00066983-00067487 able to get this +_vR82JAjxDM-00207-00067488-00067750 i wonder if i can use it for to um put +_vR82JAjxDM-00208-00067751-00067879 that theme +_vR82JAjxDM-00209-00067880-00068126 down +_vR82JAjxDM-00210-00068127-00069094 on the um the one that i can't get +_vR82JAjxDM-00211-00069095-00069202 what's that supposed to mean +_vR82JAjxDM-00212-00069203-00069479 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00213-00069480-00069679 is it lunchtime +_vR82JAjxDM-00214-00069680-00070087 i hope i'm not in the menu +_vR82JAjxDM-00215-00070088-00070406 okay i doubt she's still in her room i +_vR82JAjxDM-00216-00070407-00070511 doubt it +_vR82JAjxDM-00217-00070512-00070719 i'm pretty sure she's been left +_vR82JAjxDM-00218-00070720-00071815 she probably already knows i'm here +_vR82JAjxDM-00219-00071816-00072103 yeah that's right +_vR82JAjxDM-00220-00072104-00072247 better close your eyes you can see +_vR82JAjxDM-00221-00072248-00072415 nothing +_vR82JAjxDM-00222-00072416-00072582 so yeah like i was saying i think she +_vR82JAjxDM-00223-00072583-00072767 already knows i'm here +_vR82JAjxDM-00224-00072768-00073111 she's just waiting to catch me slipping +_vR82JAjxDM-00225-00073112-00073247 she ain't gonna catch me slipping i know +_vR82JAjxDM-00226-00073248-00073719 that +_vR82JAjxDM-00227-00073720-00074175 all right +_vR82JAjxDM-00228-00074176-00074382 oh hell +_vR82JAjxDM-00229-00074383-00074526 music stopped +_vR82JAjxDM-00230-00074527-00074703 oh she know i'm here now she know i'm +_vR82JAjxDM-00231-00074704-00074911 here +_vR82JAjxDM-00232-00074912-00075119 i just need to find one more +_vR82JAjxDM-00233-00075120-00075647 let me get the hell out of here +_vR82JAjxDM-00234-00075648-00075871 oh i'm gonna drop my controller i got +_vR82JAjxDM-00235-00075872-00076606 scared +_vR82JAjxDM-00236-00076607-00077047 what was that +_vR82JAjxDM-00237-00077048-00077246 that kid can run yeah +_vR82JAjxDM-00238-00077247-00077503 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00239-00077504-00078287 how can we see these with six +_vR82JAjxDM-00240-00078288-00078423 i think as long as i'm in the light i'm +_vR82JAjxDM-00241-00078424-00078855 good +_vR82JAjxDM-00242-00078856-00079031 what's that +_vR82JAjxDM-00243-00079032-00079191 i heard a door open +_vR82JAjxDM-00244-00079192-00079575 or closed whatever i heard it +_vR82JAjxDM-00245-00079576-00079838 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00246-00079839-00080079 all right +_vR82JAjxDM-00247-00080080-00080503 i'll tell you gotta go in there +_vR82JAjxDM-00248-00080504-00080782 who's that +_vR82JAjxDM-00249-00080783-00080959 oh this is the room we just +_vR82JAjxDM-00250-00080960-00082431 that woman was in +_vR82JAjxDM-00251-00082432-00082682 what the hell is +_vR82JAjxDM-00252-00082683-00083271 that hello +_vR82JAjxDM-00253-00083272-00083543 okay who are you yeah yeah yeah you can +_vR82JAjxDM-00254-00083544-00083718 get it too +_vR82JAjxDM-00255-00083719-00083879 come on +_vR82JAjxDM-00256-00083880-00084082 i got it i got +_vR82JAjxDM-00257-00084083-00084279 it right let's never get this cute +_vR82JAjxDM-00258-00084280-00084575 before i die again +_vR82JAjxDM-00259-00084576-00084871 hello like can you get up there +_vR82JAjxDM-00260-00084872-00085071 okay there we go +_vR82JAjxDM-00261-00085072-00085223 all right +_vR82JAjxDM-00262-00085224-00085318 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00263-00085319-00085647 i can't see it's dark in here i don't +_vR82JAjxDM-00264-00085648-00086111 care let's go let's get out of here +_vR82JAjxDM-00265-00086112-00086375 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00266-00086376-00086655 oh what laughs behind door number +_vR82JAjxDM-00267-00086656-00086831 whatever this is +_vR82JAjxDM-00268-00086832-00086967 i know i'm gonna need this i'm just +_vR82JAjxDM-00269-00086968-00087175 going to turn it on +_vR82JAjxDM-00270-00087176-00087303 who's there +_vR82JAjxDM-00271-00087304-00087591 who's there okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00272-00087592-00087750 oh god +_vR82JAjxDM-00273-00087751-00088006 i'm scared +_vR82JAjxDM-00274-00088007-00088303 no i'm not i'm not scared +_vR82JAjxDM-00275-00088304-00088735 oh another bottle +_vR82JAjxDM-00276-00088736-00088903 what's in these what are they supposed +_vR82JAjxDM-00277-00088904-00089159 to mean +_vR82JAjxDM-00278-00089160-00089543 what is that a piece of paper +_vR82JAjxDM-00279-00089544-00089682 was that +_vR82JAjxDM-00280-00089683-00090167 it that's all that was in here +_vR82JAjxDM-00281-00090168-00090326 no +_vR82JAjxDM-00282-00090327-00090559 i don't think so +_vR82JAjxDM-00283-00090560-00090759 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00284-00090760-00090943 another checkpoint okay we're doing good +_vR82JAjxDM-00285-00090944-00091038 so far +_vR82JAjxDM-00286-00091039-00091167 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00287-00091168-00091406 i saw you +_vR82JAjxDM-00288-00091407-00091567 you gonna come out +_vR82JAjxDM-00289-00091568-00091982 whoa +_vR82JAjxDM-00290-00091983-00092118 i don't know +_vR82JAjxDM-00291-00092119-00092518 i won't turn my back on it +_vR82JAjxDM-00292-00092519-00092750 they're everywhere +_vR82JAjxDM-00293-00092751-00092935 i'm gonna get jumped i'm gonna get +_vR82JAjxDM-00294-00092936-00093094 jumped +_vR82JAjxDM-00295-00093095-00093231 why am i saying that with a smile on my +_vR82JAjxDM-00296-00093232-00093462 face +_vR82JAjxDM-00297-00093463-00093591 all right +_vR82JAjxDM-00298-00093592-00093782 i don't know why i was laughing at that +_vR82JAjxDM-00299-00093783-00094047 not something to be funny +_vR82JAjxDM-00300-00094048-00094255 oh hell no kids +_vR82JAjxDM-00301-00094256-00094438 get away from me +_vR82JAjxDM-00302-00094439-00094647 get away +_vR82JAjxDM-00303-00094648-00094943 get away +_vR82JAjxDM-00304-00094944-00095103 what the hell +_vR82JAjxDM-00305-00095104-00095543 i did get jumped so i'm supposed to like +_vR82JAjxDM-00306-00095544-00095887 like +_vR82JAjxDM-00307-00095888-00096335 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00308-00096336-00096550 okay that's one +_vR82JAjxDM-00309-00096551-00097271 do i stay in here +_vR82JAjxDM-00310-00097272-00097879 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00311-00097880-00097967 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00312-00097968-00098743 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00313-00098744-00099750 what the hell +_vR82JAjxDM-00314-00099751-00100038 i gotta move too at the same time that's +_vR82JAjxDM-00315-00100039-00100271 hard +_vR82JAjxDM-00316-00100272-00100903 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00317-00100904-00101055 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00318-00101056-00101743 oh there +_vR82JAjxDM-00319-00101744-00102094 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00320-00102095-00102599 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00321-00102600-00102766 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00322-00102767-00103151 how many times i see it okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00323-00103152-00103310 is that it +_vR82JAjxDM-00324-00103311-00103727 oh man i'm all over the place today man +_vR82JAjxDM-00325-00103728-00104615 what is nervous +_vR82JAjxDM-00326-00104616-00105151 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00327-00105152-00106054 this ain't time is it +_vR82JAjxDM-00328-00106055-00106183 okay we can't +_vR82JAjxDM-00329-00106183-00106375 turn back i guess +_vR82JAjxDM-00330-00106376-00106519 and i'm pretty sure if i fall down there +_vR82JAjxDM-00331-00106520-00106895 i'm gonna die +_vR82JAjxDM-00332-00106896-00106983 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00333-00106983-00109966 i hear them kids +_vR82JAjxDM-00334-00109967-00110943 so +_vR82JAjxDM-00335-00110944-00111166 hey +_vR82JAjxDM-00336-00111167-00111383 go go +_vR82JAjxDM-00337-00111383-00111566 go go +_vR82JAjxDM-00338-00111567-00111671 that it +_vR82JAjxDM-00339-00111672-00111839 did i get him +_vR82JAjxDM-00340-00111840-00111990 i don't want to celebrate too fast right +_vR82JAjxDM-00341-00111991-00112199 now +_vR82JAjxDM-00342-00112200-00112286 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00343-00112288-00112478 keep going +_vR82JAjxDM-00344-00112479-00112815 walk the ladder +_vR82JAjxDM-00345-00112816-00112990 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00346-00112991-00113182 go down here +_vR82JAjxDM-00347-00113183-00113483 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00348-00113483-00113790 jump let's take another light just in +_vR82JAjxDM-00349-00113791-00114399 case +_vR82JAjxDM-00350-00114400-00114543 you climb up +_vR82JAjxDM-00351-00114544-00114807 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00352-00114808-00115183 i didn't see it at first +_vR82JAjxDM-00353-00115183-00115766 oh be careful now +_vR82JAjxDM-00354-00115767-00115990 i just started watching +_vR82JAjxDM-00355-00115991-00116183 what the hell +_vR82JAjxDM-00356-00116183-00116366 not too creaking +_vR82JAjxDM-00357-00116367-00116671 don't look down don't look down +_vR82JAjxDM-00358-00116672-00117583 keep the same steady pace okay good +_vR82JAjxDM-00359-00117583-00118054 what the hell +_vR82JAjxDM-00360-00118055-00118215 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00361-00118216-00118734 okay good so far so good +_vR82JAjxDM-00362-00118735-00118902 turn that light on cause i can't see a +_vR82JAjxDM-00363-00118903-00119215 damn thing +_vR82JAjxDM-00364-00119216-00119255 hello +_vR82JAjxDM-00365-00119256-00119527 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00366-00119528-00119758 oh lord they in here too +_vR82JAjxDM-00367-00119759-00120663 away +_vR82JAjxDM-00368-00120664-00120831 get away +_vR82JAjxDM-00369-00120832-00120951 get away +_vR82JAjxDM-00370-00120952-00121086 get away +_vR82JAjxDM-00371-00121088-00121278 get away +_vR82JAjxDM-00372-00121279-00121590 get away +_vR82JAjxDM-00373-00121591-00121671 this +_vR82JAjxDM-00374-00121672-00121910 this that was three of them right three +_vR82JAjxDM-00375-00121911-00122039 or four +_vR82JAjxDM-00376-00122040-00122752 i don't know +_vR82JAjxDM-00377-00122753-00123095 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00378-00123096-00123351 i think i got it +_vR82JAjxDM-00379-00123352-00123471 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00380-00123472-00123654 jesus +_vR82JAjxDM-00381-00123655-00123831 oh that took a long time but i finally +_vR82JAjxDM-00382-00123832-00124014 got it damn these kids are getting on my +_vR82JAjxDM-00383-00124015-00124305 nerve man +_vR82JAjxDM-00384-00124306-00124983 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00385-00124983-00125053 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00386-00125054-00125407 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00387-00125408-00125639 they opened up some +_vR82JAjxDM-00388-00125640-00125854 oh just a bottle +_vR82JAjxDM-00389-00125855-00125983 there was gonna be more kids in there +_vR82JAjxDM-00390-00125983-00126454 i'm gonna say oh hell no +_vR82JAjxDM-00391-00126455-00127183 those scrolls or something +_vR82JAjxDM-00392-00127183-00127527 oh it is the final piece +_vR82JAjxDM-00393-00127528-00127951 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00394-00127952-00128447 is the door open +_vR82JAjxDM-00395-00128448-00128647 are you gonna close +_vR82JAjxDM-00396-00128648-00128878 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00397-00128879-00129278 that little hint +_vR82JAjxDM-00398-00129279-00129423 oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00399-00129424-00129566 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00400-00129567-00129751 thanks game +_vR82JAjxDM-00401-00129752-00130414 you've been helpful for once +_vR82JAjxDM-00402-00130415-00130719 so do i +_vR82JAjxDM-00403-00130720-00130902 oh it's already open i'm about to say +_vR82JAjxDM-00404-00130903-00131247 like i know i'm not supposed to do that +_vR82JAjxDM-00405-00131248-00131566 oh it's so dark i can't see +_vR82JAjxDM-00406-00131567-00131854 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00407-00131855-00132063 all i know is them little shadow kids +_vR82JAjxDM-00408-00132064-00132254 not supposed to be coming out here +_vR82JAjxDM-00409-00132255-00132407 if not gonna be mad because i can't +_vR82JAjxDM-00410-00132408-00132483 defend myself +_vR82JAjxDM-00411-00132484-00132735 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00412-00132736-00133543 maybe they're ominous music again +_vR82JAjxDM-00413-00133544-00133863 oh man that was a struggle +_vR82JAjxDM-00414-00133864-00134439 but i'm glad i finally got it over with +_vR82JAjxDM-00415-00134440-00135207 yay +_vR82JAjxDM-00416-00135208-00135790 just in case +_vR82JAjxDM-00417-00135791-00136095 this the boss fight +_vR82JAjxDM-00418-00136096-00136543 i need a mirror now i need a mirror +_vR82JAjxDM-00419-00136544-00136895 all these are broken +_vR82JAjxDM-00420-00136896-00137439 what's that sound +_vR82JAjxDM-00421-00137440-00137951 i can see +_vR82JAjxDM-00422-00137952-00139143 it's like somebody's scraping something +_vR82JAjxDM-00423-00139144-00139823 she doing +_vR82JAjxDM-00424-00139824-00139975 actually keep it +_vR82JAjxDM-00425-00139976-00141502 tip toe tip toe +_vR82JAjxDM-00426-00141503-00141695 what the hell +_vR82JAjxDM-00427-00141696-00141847 she saw me +_vR82JAjxDM-00428-00141848-00142071 she saw me +_vR82JAjxDM-00429-00142072-00142175 i don't think there was no way to +_vR82JAjxDM-00430-00142176-00142887 prevent that +_vR82JAjxDM-00431-00142888-00143071 hello +_vR82JAjxDM-00432-00143072-00143190 and they're broke +_vR82JAjxDM-00433-00143191-00143575 i can't defend myself either +_vR82JAjxDM-00434-00143576-00143863 oh god +_vR82JAjxDM-00435-00143864-00144135 oh man we finally died +_vR82JAjxDM-00436-00144136-00144375 yeah +_vR82JAjxDM-00437-00144376-00144590 well we meet again i don't know her name +_vR82JAjxDM-00438-00144591-00144911 but +_vR82JAjxDM-00439-00144912-00145102 it's that boss fight +_vR82JAjxDM-00440-00145103-00145390 oh oh +_vR82JAjxDM-00441-00145391-00145623 huh +_vR82JAjxDM-00442-00145624-00145766 i don't know if the light affects her +_vR82JAjxDM-00443-00145767-00146287 too +_vR82JAjxDM-00444-00146288-00146463 i don't know i'm gonna run +_vR82JAjxDM-00445-00146464-00146514 it +_vR82JAjxDM-00446-00146515-00146766 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00447-00146767-00147023 oh what i run into +_vR82JAjxDM-00448-00147024-00147302 oh god +_vR82JAjxDM-00449-00147303-00147447 i don't know +_vR82JAjxDM-00450-00147448-00148023 just keep running +_vR82JAjxDM-00451-00148024-00148399 oh there's a room in here +_vR82JAjxDM-00452-00148400-00148935 and there's more broken glass +_vR82JAjxDM-00453-00148936-00149231 i think there was the door +_vR82JAjxDM-00454-00149232-00149519 yep it was +_vR82JAjxDM-00455-00149520-00150063 oh lord boss fight +_vR82JAjxDM-00456-00150064-00150351 what the hell +_vR82JAjxDM-00457-00150352-00150599 what happened +_vR82JAjxDM-00458-00150600-00150935 there she is +_vR82JAjxDM-00459-00150936-00151134 well that's supposed to happen +_vR82JAjxDM-00460-00151135-00151599 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00461-00151600-00151726 so there was no way for me to prevent +_vR82JAjxDM-00462-00151727-00151863 that +_vR82JAjxDM-00463-00151864-00152207 hello +_vR82JAjxDM-00464-00152208-00152495 what is that +_vR82JAjxDM-00465-00152496-00152895 i'm unknown +_vR82JAjxDM-00466-00152896-00153254 i'm a gnome why am i known +_vR82JAjxDM-00467-00153255-00153447 my clothes +_vR82JAjxDM-00468-00153448-00153575 so she is the one who's turning +_vR82JAjxDM-00469-00153576-00153751 everybody into gnomes +_vR82JAjxDM-00470-00153752-00154087 but why though +_vR82JAjxDM-00471-00154088-00154359 and why me and why didn't she kill me +_vR82JAjxDM-00472-00154360-00154599 unless she did wood six can i still jump +_vR82JAjxDM-00473-00154600-00154863 yep +_vR82JAjxDM-00474-00154864-00155214 i ain't gonna flash like +_vR82JAjxDM-00475-00155215-00156071 am i gonna land on that +_vR82JAjxDM-00476-00156072-00156375 am i supposed to do that +_vR82JAjxDM-00477-00156376-00156695 i don't know +_vR82JAjxDM-00478-00156696-00156887 this reminds me of kingdom hearts when +_vR82JAjxDM-00479-00156888-00157566 sora had turned into a heartless +_vR82JAjxDM-00480-00157567-00158031 all right +_vR82JAjxDM-00481-00158032-00158654 it's the things again +_vR82JAjxDM-00482-00158655-00159719 going here +_vR82JAjxDM-00483-00159720-00159926 what +_vR82JAjxDM-00484-00159927-00161302 that is +_vR82JAjxDM-00485-00161303-00161454 oh i was going +_vR82JAjxDM-00486-00161455-00161775 okay so i was going right away +_vR82JAjxDM-00487-00161776-00161975 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00488-00161976-00162135 so it's a good thing we know that they +_vR82JAjxDM-00489-00162136-00162654 don't bother us anymore +_vR82JAjxDM-00490-00162655-00162871 and the doors are open +_vR82JAjxDM-00491-00162872-00162975 ain't got to go through that scary +_vR82JAjxDM-00492-00162976-00163711 elevator anymore +_vR82JAjxDM-00493-00163712-00164126 but why am i unknown though +_vR82JAjxDM-00494-00164127-00164463 do i go down here +_vR82JAjxDM-00495-00164464-00164799 survive okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00496-00164800-00165751 okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00497-00165752-00166256 where am i going oh okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00498-00166257-00166735 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00499-00166736-00166911 huh +_vR82JAjxDM-00500-00166912-00167151 in this the place we had saw +_vR82JAjxDM-00501-00167152-00167383 six +_vR82JAjxDM-00502-00167384-00167656 try to eat that sausage +_vR82JAjxDM-00503-00167657-00168087 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00504-00168088-00168390 that that that gnome right there +_vR82JAjxDM-00505-00168391-00168702 is that the gnome that we ate at six +_vR82JAjxDM-00506-00168703-00169214 that tried to feed us the sausage +_vR82JAjxDM-00507-00169215-00169308 we ate the +_vR82JAjxDM-00508-00169309-00169483 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00509-00169484-00169776 kid is him +_vR82JAjxDM-00510-00169777-00170543 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00511-00170544-00170643 yo +_vR82JAjxDM-00512-00170644-00170863 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00513-00170864-00171519 we killed him +_vR82JAjxDM-00514-00171520-00172231 oh my god +_vR82JAjxDM-00515-00172232-00172466 oh my god +_vR82JAjxDM-00516-00172467-00172575 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00517-00172576-00172753 and that's the end +_vR82JAjxDM-00518-00172754-00172999 [Music] +_vR82JAjxDM-00519-00173000-00173366 oh jesus +_vR82JAjxDM-00520-00173367-00173519 said me to tell me this whole time we're +_vR82JAjxDM-00521-00173520-00173687 playing with the little boy that's 6 8 +_vR82JAjxDM-00522-00173688-00173919 later +_vR82JAjxDM-00523-00173920-00174111 so it made sense why he was unknown +_vR82JAjxDM-00524-00174112-00174263 that's why we couldn't recognize him +_vR82JAjxDM-00525-00174264-00174390 because +_vR82JAjxDM-00526-00174391-00174647 apparently the woman the lady turned him +_vR82JAjxDM-00527-00174648-00175014 into a gnome +_vR82JAjxDM-00528-00175015-00175207 but why though so she was turning +_vR82JAjxDM-00529-00175208-00175399 everybody into nose so those little +_vR82JAjxDM-00530-00175400-00175575 gnomes were +_vR82JAjxDM-00531-00175576-00175814 children +_vR82JAjxDM-00532-00175815-00175999 this whole job yeah because in the +_vR82JAjxDM-00533-00176000-00176238 hideaway in my episode two +_vR82JAjxDM-00534-00176239-00176383 they were all holding around this like +_vR82JAjxDM-00535-00176384-00176535 little light thing +_vR82JAjxDM-00536-00176536-00176790 there's shadows like children like they +_vR82JAjxDM-00537-00176791-00176959 weren't like knowing me like with the +_vR82JAjxDM-00538-00176960-00177190 pointy head they were like actual +_vR82JAjxDM-00539-00177191-00177495 children that's why i asked earlier +_vR82JAjxDM-00540-00177496-00177759 why they look like children +_vR82JAjxDM-00541-00177760-00177911 so this whole time we were playing this +_vR82JAjxDM-00542-00177912-00178535 little boy that 6-8 +_vR82JAjxDM-00543-00178536-00179126 what the hell +_vR82JAjxDM-00544-00179127-00179559 what the hell who's that +_vR82JAjxDM-00545-00179560-00179702 i don't know +_vR82JAjxDM-00546-00179703-00180247 like a little tall figure +_vR82JAjxDM-00547-00180248-00180431 well that's the end of little nightmares +_vR82JAjxDM-00548-00180432-00180719 officially we played the dlc we played +_vR82JAjxDM-00549-00180720-00180919 the depths the hideaway and the +_vR82JAjxDM-00550-00180920-00181095 residency so +_vR82JAjxDM-00551-00181096-00181359 i think we completed it guys +_vR82JAjxDM-00552-00181360-00181511 i think we are officially done with +_vR82JAjxDM-00553-00181512-00181711 little nightmares well i know there's a +_vR82JAjxDM-00554-00181712-00181878 little nightmares too so i might play +_vR82JAjxDM-00555-00181879-00182087 that on my channel too as well overall +_vR82JAjxDM-00556-00182088-00182271 this was like an amazing experience i +_vR82JAjxDM-00557-00182272-00182454 love this game so much this game has +_vR82JAjxDM-00558-00182455-00182607 really gotten a lot of views on my +_vR82JAjxDM-00559-00182608-00182838 channel so thank you all for that +_vR82JAjxDM-00560-00182839-00182951 and +_vR82JAjxDM-00561-00182952-00183135 i cannot believe that that was the +_vR82JAjxDM-00562-00183136-00183414 actual child that we actually ate +_vR82JAjxDM-00563-00183415-00183647 at six so by the time he comes up to the +_vR82JAjxDM-00564-00183648-00183807 sausage +_vR82JAjxDM-00565-00183808-00184111 styx hasn't made it up there yet +_vR82JAjxDM-00566-00184112-00184375 so that explains so it would make sense +_vR82JAjxDM-00567-00184376-00184654 like why he was a gnome +_vR82JAjxDM-00568-00184655-00184878 instead of like his actual form because +_vR82JAjxDM-00569-00184879-00185054 she turned him into +_vR82JAjxDM-00570-00185055-00185319 i know the the lady so we couldn't +_vR82JAjxDM-00571-00185320-00185487 really necessarily have to fight her she +_vR82JAjxDM-00572-00185488-00185654 had to actually get us captured so there +_vR82JAjxDM-00573-00185655-00185871 was no way of us to fight or defend +_vR82JAjxDM-00574-00185872-00186095 ourselves or anything like that so +_vR82JAjxDM-00575-00186096-00186223 i'm glad too because i wanted to fight +_vR82JAjxDM-00576-00186224-00186478 him okay +_vR82JAjxDM-00577-00186479-00186663 but if you haven't seen that i'll leave +_vR82JAjxDM-00578-00186664-00186814 it up there or down the description box +_vR82JAjxDM-00579-00186815-00186959 as well if you haven't seen my boss +_vR82JAjxDM-00580-00186960-00187223 fight with her that was funny too +_vR82JAjxDM-00581-00187224-00187407 that was funny i enjoyed this episode +_vR82JAjxDM-00582-00187408-00187543 guys thank you all for watching make +_vR82JAjxDM-00583-00187544-00187663 sure you like comment subscribe follow +_vR82JAjxDM-00584-00187664-00187823 my social media links down below and +_vR82JAjxDM-00585-00187824-00188244 i'll see you guys next time bye +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00000-00000000-00000089 [Music] +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00001-00000090-00000299 the inhabitants of this planet are known +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00002-00000300-00000413 as Cree +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00003-00000413-00000688 there a character named Veris presented +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00004-00000689-00000904 who is severely injured +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00005-00000905-00001091 she observes an elderly lady before +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00006-00001092-00001331 understanding anything and she senses a +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00007-00001332-00001457 lot of smoke +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00008-00001458-00001684 a man emerges from the smoke afterwards +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00009-00001685-00001889 and aims a revolver at her +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00010-00001889-00002099 he couldn't see her face one second and +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00011-00002100-00002302 then it was her fantasy the next +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00012-00002303-00002645 she is in fact having a dream +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00013-00002646-00002855 she has this dream over and over because +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00014-00002856-00003034 she is not on this planet +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00015-00003035-00003322 as a result she sleeps less and has lost +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00016-00003323-00003527 her recollection of the past +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00017-00003528-00003731 Vera is addressed to a man who is the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00018-00003732-00003875 planet's Commander +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00019-00003876-00004049 he teaches her how to fight before +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00020-00004050-00004199 leading her to become incredibly +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00021-00004200-00004319 brilliant +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00022-00004320-00004504 she stands there watching as the man +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00023-00004505-00004715 tells her that super intelligent has no +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00024-00004716-00004829 face +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00025-00004830-00005020 she emerges in the shape that keeps +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00026-00005021-00005236 appearing in your imagination +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00027-00005237-00005483 ver moves closer to the location of the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00028-00005484-00005627 super intelligent +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00029-00005628-00005849 she also appears in the Visage of the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00030-00005850-00006070 old lady from her recurring dream +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00031-00006071-00006304 she warns Vera that the world and its +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00032-00006305-00006478 inhabitants are in peril +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00033-00006479-00006670 alien scroll that occupied different +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00034-00006672-00006964 worlds one by one and can take any shape +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00035-00006965-00007163 they have the ability to occupy and +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00036-00007164-00007451 destroy our world those aliens must be +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00037-00007452-00007559 destroyed +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00038-00007559-00007889 later ver along with the cree troops and +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00039-00007890-00008098 their command depart from the skrull's +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00040-00008100-00008219 location +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00041-00008220-00008446 the plant's head notifies verse about a +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00042-00008447-00008614 spy who has been under the control of +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00043-00008615-00008878 alien scroll for the past three years +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00044-00008879-00009064 they must liberate him at any cost +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00045-00009065-00009281 because he is under their control +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00046-00009282-00009521 they all arrive on a planet and Vare +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00047-00009522-00009737 reaches out to the Spy requesting that +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00048-00009738-00009881 he be released +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00049-00009882-00010163 she deciphers the code he gives her the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00050-00010164-00010342 army of the skrulls has assaulted them +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00051-00010343-00010642 she is informed who she thought was a +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00052-00010643-00010841 spy was actually a scroll leader who had +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00053-00010842-00011009 disguised himself +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00054-00011010-00011213 the alien Scrolls capture her and +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00055-00011214-00011441 transport her aboard their spacecraft +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00056-00011442-00011633 they seek to know her past with the help +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00057-00011634-00011783 of a machine +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00058-00011784-00012077 ver had forgotten about it Vera was the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00059-00012078-00012287 first woman to land on Earth and she was +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00060-00012288-00012395 a pilot +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00061-00012396-00012688 she is the woman she sees in her dreams +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00062-00012689-00012916 the scroll alien boss is curious about +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00063-00012917-00013007 her +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00064-00013008-00013222 he informs his companions about their +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00065-00013223-00013493 destination and the place ver enters the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00066-00013494-00013721 picture before they accomplish this +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00067-00013722-00013951 she lets go and goes after alien scroll +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00068-00013952-00014194 she wonders what he's gotten into her +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00069-00014195-00014285 head +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00070-00014286-00014471 he responds that he hasn't put anything +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00071-00014472-00014729 in her head it was already there +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00072-00014730-00014921 he's just interested in the doctor and +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00073-00014922-00015088 the lightspeed engine +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00074-00015090-00015299 you have no memory of the past and have +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00075-00015300-00015503 been held captive by Cree +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00076-00015504-00015736 the spaceship is damaged as all of the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00077-00015737-00015880 aliens attack her +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00078-00015881-00016097 if the spaceship crashes into the Earth +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00079-00016097-00016349 all of the aliens will flee +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00080-00016350-00016517 she alerts her people that she has +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00081-00016518-00016661 arrived on Earth and that they should +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00082-00016662-00016805 take her away +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00083-00016806-00016985 they inform her that the journey will +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00084-00016986-00017339 take 22 hours and that she must wait +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00085-00017340-00017597 later two agents arrive and begin an +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00086-00017598-00017794 investigation into her +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00087-00017795-00018011 she claims to be from Korean wishes to +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00088-00018012-00018317 exterminate the skrull alien both agents +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00089-00018318-00018671 though are baffled meanwhile she is +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00090-00018672-00018886 watching a scroll and begins chasing it +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00091-00018887-00019108 he changes his appearance and Boards the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00092-00019109-00019444 train but ver recognizes him they Spar +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00093-00019445-00019679 frequently and the scroll alien drops a +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00094-00019680-00019822 memory device +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00095-00019823-00020033 this is the same memory device from +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00096-00020034-00020327 which verse memories and Scrolls run +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00097-00020328-00020500 agent who was trailing the train in +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00098-00020501-00020771 their automobile emerges here his second +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00099-00020772-00020986 agent sends him a call form +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00100-00020987-00021208 it indicates that the second agent in +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00101-00021209-00021400 the car was not an agent but scroll +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00102-00021401-00021625 altered his appearance and sat with him +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00103-00021626-00021886 meanwhile the agent causes an accident +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00104-00021887-00022085 in which scroll kills him and the agent +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00105-00022086-00022258 suffers eye injuries +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00106-00022259-00022480 skrull is taken to a lab by the agent +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00107-00022481-00022708 where his supervisor appears and assigns +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00108-00022709-00022799 him to it +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00109-00022800-00023033 as if it were a secret mission all of +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00110-00023034-00023213 the information must be supplied without +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00111-00023214-00023375 naming anyone +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00112-00023376-00023669 meanwhile we notice Fair who catches the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00113-00023670-00023957 alien scroll memory device she discovers +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00114-00023958-00024161 the name of the bar appears as she +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00115-00024162-00024389 inserts it into her hand of ice +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00116-00024390-00024622 she brings up memories of the past when +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00117-00024623-00024857 she visits the pup she has already +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00118-00024858-00025163 visited this location as has the agent +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00119-00025164-00025372 they both spot a photo of an air base +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00120-00025373-00025547 and reach for their own +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00121-00025548-00025750 when the agent shows his car to the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00122-00025751-00025937 security guard over there they are both +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00123-00025938-00026225 led to a room they are in a store with +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00124-00026226-00026458 several files within them they discover +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00125-00026460-00026705 a file belonging to Dr Wendy Lawson +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00126-00026706-00026927 which contains notes on doctor and the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00127-00026927-00027083 lightspeed engine +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00128-00027083-00027257 these notes are in a variety of +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00129-00027258-00027581 languages Dr Wendy was a Cree Not a +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00130-00027582-00027814 Human Being as we now know +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00131-00027816-00028049 she knows from his file that she ran to +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00132-00028050-00028301 take a light speed engine many years ago +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00133-00028302-00028618 along with them another pilot Dr Lawson +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00134-00028619-00028931 appears in her dreams on a regular basis +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00135-00028932-00029152 agent receives a call from his employer +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00136-00029154-00029357 informing him that he is in a base with +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00137-00029358-00029452 ver +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00138-00029454-00029668 the boss eventually appears in the base +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00139-00029669-00029902 and as he speaks with the agent he +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00140-00029904-00030124 realizes that he is not his boss but +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00141-00030125-00030311 rather a scroll alien +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00142-00030312-00030568 to catch Fair he disguised himself as +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00143-00030569-00030670 the boss +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00144-00030672-00030899 agent engages him in conversation and +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00145-00030900-00031177 flees but the scroll catches him again +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00146-00031177-00031408 Vera appears and fights the alien +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00147-00031410-00031637 dragging him into a plane before killing +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00148-00031638-00031708 him +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00149-00031710-00031979 later they both contact the other pilot +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00150-00031980-00032170 house after reading in Dr Lawson's +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00151-00032172-00032345 dossier that another pilot was working +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00152-00032345-00032483 with him +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00153-00032483-00032693 she's the same girl who last saw Dr +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00154-00032694-00032837 Lawson +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00155-00032838-00033083 hair she knows she was Dr Lawson's +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00156-00033084-00033287 dearest friend and you were piloting the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00157-00033288-00033443 plane when it crashed +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00158-00033444-00033623 and we assumed you were there as well +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00159-00033624-00033790 being killed +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00160-00033791-00034055 but you're still alive and ver has no +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00161-00034056-00034235 recollection of anything +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00162-00034236-00034457 she is also unaware of the girl she +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00163-00034458-00034673 refers to as her best friend +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00164-00034674-00034895 the scroll's leader appears and declares +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00165-00034896-00035074 that he does not want to battle +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00166-00035075-00035285 I had no idea who you were when he +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00167-00035286-00035567 imprisoned her the last time but now I'd +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00168-00035568-00035699 like to speak with you about the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00169-00035700-00035879 recording from that evening +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00170-00035880-00036071 the evening you spent working with Dr +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00171-00036072-00036527 dot Lawson he hears a voice after that +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00172-00036528-00036868 Dr Lawson gives directions to a site and +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00173-00036869-00037090 he directs you to this location +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00174-00037091-00037337 there's her lab after all +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00175-00037338-00037583 there now recalls everything +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00176-00037584-00037829 she was going to Dr Lawson's lab with a +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00177-00037830-00037996 light speed engine at night +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00178-00037997-00038224 meanwhile they are attacked in their +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00179-00038225-00038489 fighter plane crashes injuring Dr Lawson +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00180-00038490-00038693 who declares that they wish to end the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00181-00038694-00039005 war forever my real name is Marvel and +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00182-00039006-00039196 I'm from a planet other than Earth +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00183-00039197-00039443 you must now eliminate everything +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00184-00039444-00039659 this Lightspeed engine should not be in +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00185-00039660-00039815 the hands of anyone +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00186-00039816-00040001 someone kills them before she can +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00187-00040002-00040265 destroy it and Dr Lawson dies +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00188-00040266-00040505 this is the same scene that bear sees in +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00189-00040506-00040768 Her Dream as a man points a gun at her +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00190-00040769-00040979 but she had never seen his face before +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00191-00040980-00041207 and now she can see it +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00192-00041208-00041399 there considers him a friend and the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00193-00041400-00041579 commander of Cree planet +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00194-00041580-00041818 he demands an energy source but she +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00195-00041819-00042029 understands that no one should have it +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00196-00042030-00042305 when verifiers on the energy source a +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00197-00042306-00042545 large explosion occurs within and all of +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00198-00042546-00042785 the powers are transferred to there +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00199-00042786-00043007 the leader no longer kills us because he +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00200-00043008-00043187 requires this energy +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00201-00043188-00043462 the tale returns to the present day +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00202-00043463-00043679 the scroll Commander reminds her that +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00203-00043680-00043895 she is backing an incorrect planet +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00204-00043896-00044105 she wants to eliminate light engines +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00205-00044106-00044273 because the cree people have ruined +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00206-00044274-00044368 their planet +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00207-00044369-00044573 they destroy their Planet if they do not +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00208-00044574-00044855 give up that is why they seek refuge on +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00209-00044856-00044980 another planet +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00210-00044981-00045245 he informs her that Dr Lawson in his +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00211-00045246-00045443 capacity is Captain Marvel has +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00212-00045444-00045646 discovered an energy source capable of +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00213-00045647-00045815 destroying any Planet at the speed of +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00214-00045816-00045911 light +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00215-00045912-00046145 where the cree Army couldn't get +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00216-00046146-00046324 she wants you to assist her in locating +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00217-00046325-00046690 that there on the other hand informs him +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00218-00046691-00046912 that she has already been destroyed +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00219-00046913-00047129 the scroll Commander then informs you +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00220-00047130-00047327 that while you damage the engine the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00221-00047328-00047543 energy source is still in their lap +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00222-00047544-00047807 the location of the lap as informed by +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00223-00047808-00047921 Marvel +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00224-00047922-00048130 she informs him that the lab is not on +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00225-00048131-00048352 Earth but rather on a planet that shifts +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00226-00048353-00048551 its location over time +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00227-00048552-00048755 the Scrolls leader has changed and is +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00228-00048756-00048989 now capable of reaching the planet +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00229-00048990-00049168 they are now all departing from Earth +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00230-00049169-00049289 for the planet +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00231-00049290-00049589 they arrive at the lab quickly when they +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00232-00049590-00049805 all arrive they notice an entry source +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00233-00049806-00050074 that was previously hidden the question +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00234-00050075-00050296 now is where Dr Lawson gets this energy +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00235-00050297-00050633 source in contrast the three people who +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00236-00050634-00050818 created The Shield in America are the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00237-00050819-00050999 First Avenger we've seen +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00238-00051000-00051214 the project was called begasis when +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00239-00051215-00051490 shield and NASA collaborated on it they +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00240-00051491-00051676 aimed to build a speed engine using +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00241-00051677-00051904 various energies in the project +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00242-00051905-00052132 Dr Lawson was also a member of their +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00243-00052133-00052349 team and worked as a scientist +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00244-00052350-00052553 they both discovered the energy source +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00245-00052554-00052882 in the same location in Dr Lawson's lab +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00246-00052883-00053165 a scroll comes and makes an odd sound +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00247-00053166-00053399 his family who had been living in this +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00248-00053400-00053657 house for six years has arrived +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00249-00053658-00053926 now skrull's wife notifies him that +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00250-00053927-00054088 Marvel has blocked him from indicating +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00251-00054089-00054226 any signal +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00252-00054227-00054425 the people of Cree would have arrived if +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00253-00054426-00054647 we did this +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00254-00054648-00054844 now cree's leader and his army have +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00255-00054845-00054971 arrived +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00256-00054972-00055163 there is captured and his senses are +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00257-00055164-00055354 sent to their highest mind +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00258-00055355-00055588 ver now stands in awe of this tremendous +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00259-00055589-00055697 mind +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00260-00055698-00055894 they now have a device in her neck that +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00261-00055895-00056129 allows them to control her senses +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00262-00056129-00056387 she is now aware of the situation +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00263-00056388-00056626 she now removes the device from her neck +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00264-00056627-00056879 and throws it away all of her abilities +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00265-00056879-00057100 are unlocked as she throws +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00266-00057101-00057365 versus promoted to Captain Marvel +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00267-00057366-00057623 as Captain Marvel she manages to keep +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00268-00057624-00057835 the cree people at Bay in a single try +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00269-00057836-00058115 she now leads the engine Source towards +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00270-00058116-00058349 the agents and requests that he leave +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00271-00058350-00058600 the agent possesses the Marvel cat which +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00272-00058601-00058775 is actually an extraterrestrial rather +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00273-00058776-00059003 than a cat The Source engine is +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00274-00059004-00059165 energized by the cat +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00275-00059166-00059471 later the agent and a buddy of air as +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00276-00059472-00059753 well as Scrolls depart they blew up the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00277-00059754-00059909 lab and destroyed it +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00278-00059910-00060125 cree's leader also wanted to grab the +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00279-00060126-00060311 engine source and follow them down with +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00280-00060312-00060454 his flying thing +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00281-00060455-00060688 Captain Marvel snatches the flying jet +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00282-00060689-00060821 from the leader +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00283-00060822-00061042 she calms her mind before arriving on +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00284-00061044-00061294 Earth she understands her ability to +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00285-00061295-00061415 soar +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00286-00061416-00061607 she eventually wrecks the leader's jet +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00287-00061608-00061841 two people from the cree Planet are +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00288-00061841-00062080 depicted on the other side of the Earth +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00289-00062082-00062261 they discover their people are defeated +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00290-00062262-00062461 and begin firing missiles at the Earth +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00291-00062462-00062700 caption Marvel on the other hand +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00292-00062701-00062980 obliterated them in a single strike +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00293-00062982-00063203 when the people observe their might they +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00294-00063204-00063365 decide to go and warn them that they +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00295-00063366-00063538 will return for vengeance +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00296-00063539-00063773 Captain Marvel returns to Earth where +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00297-00063774-00063971 the cree leader is present +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00298-00063972-00064187 she seats him in her flying vehicle and +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00299-00064188-00064330 instructs him to inform Supreme +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00300-00064332-00064516 intelligence that she will be visiting +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00301-00064517-00064673 their Planet soon +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00302-00064674-00064913 as a result she was able to destroy +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00303-00064914-00065021 everything +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00304-00065022-00065303 the agent now emerges holding a cat that +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00305-00065304-00065579 has galvanized The Source power sharp +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00306-00065580-00065794 Paws from the cat hurt her eyes +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00307-00065795-00066041 Captain Marvel later gives the device to +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00308-00066042-00066203 the agent and informs him that it has +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00309-00066204-00066443 been updated you can still send a +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00310-00066444-00066671 message but only in an emergency +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00311-00066672-00066971 later Captain Marvel and Scrolls depart +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00312-00066972-00067199 from Earth in search of their new home +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00313-00067200-00067403 the agent who had his eyes wounded now +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00314-00067404-00067594 has his eyes concealed +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00315-00067595-00067811 he tells His companion that they have no +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00316-00067812-00068026 idea who else is leaving Earth +_wt7nXVe0Uk-00317-00068027-00068306 this time +_x-KTJrxp8c-00000-00000003-00000196 at the beginning of year 12 I wrote a +_x-KTJrxp8c-00001-00000197-00000539 blog post on my Sobia of throw-up +_x-KTJrxp8c-00002-00000540-00000724 I just never been able to talk about it +_x-KTJrxp8c-00003-00000725-00000944 really it's just sort of I try and avoid +_x-KTJrxp8c-00004-00000944-00001070 it because I didn't want to dwell on it +_x-KTJrxp8c-00005-00001071-00001274 too much and things like that so yeah +_x-KTJrxp8c-00006-00001275-00001562 this article went up lots of people +_x-KTJrxp8c-00007-00001563-00001873 reading it super cool yesterday morning +_x-KTJrxp8c-00008-00001875-00002117 two people tweeted me asking to speak to +_x-KTJrxp8c-00009-00002118-00002264 me about it and I thought okay this is +_x-KTJrxp8c-00010-00002265-00002372 cool who are these people +_x-KTJrxp8c-00011-00002373-00002597 I went on their Twitter profiles and +_x-KTJrxp8c-00012-00002598-00003000 there are two people from the BBC and +_x-KTJrxp8c-00013-00003001-00003295 I'm so pleased that the condition is +_x-KTJrxp8c-00014-00003296-00003602 getting so much publicity because so +_x-KTJrxp8c-00015-00003603-00003854 many people actually suffer with it even +_x-KTJrxp8c-00016-00003854-00004145 if it's not as serious as how I suffer +_x-KTJrxp8c-00017-00004146-00004418 with it or how serious other people may +_x-KTJrxp8c-00018-00004419-00004544 suffer it more than I do +_x-KTJrxp8c-00019-00004545-00004945 and but it's just I think it's just so +_x-KTJrxp8c-00020-00004946-00005138 good to make people know that they're +_x-KTJrxp8c-00021-00005139-00005366 not alone in the situation hello +_x-KTJrxp8c-00022-00005367-00005752 everybody and welcome to a new little +_x-KTJrxp8c-00023-00005753-00006061 series on my channel which is going to +_x-KTJrxp8c-00024-00006062-00006520 be a series of four or five or six short +_x-KTJrxp8c-00025-00006522-00006839 I'm going to keep it short videos about +_x-KTJrxp8c-00026-00006840-00007430 my thrive program journey can we call it +_x-KTJrxp8c-00027-00007431-00007795 up we call it journey I don't know so I +_x-KTJrxp8c-00028-00007797-00007970 should get straight into it because I +_x-KTJrxp8c-00029-00007970-00008084 don't know what else to say and +_x-KTJrxp8c-00030-00008084-00008201 otherwise I'm just going to babble for +_x-KTJrxp8c-00031-00008202-00008635 way too long so I received this book +_x-KTJrxp8c-00032-00008636-00009059 curious phobia and thrive last Wednesday +_x-KTJrxp8c-00033-00009060-00009331 afternoon today is Tuesday so it has +_x-KTJrxp8c-00034-00009332-00009671 been about a week since I first started +_x-KTJrxp8c-00035-00009672-00010006 and I was very cynical about it before +_x-KTJrxp8c-00036-00010007-00010199 I'd read about it a couple of years ago +_x-KTJrxp8c-00037-00010200-00010730 and so I can't understand how a book can +_x-KTJrxp8c-00038-00010731-00011196 help me not be scared of being sick and +_x-KTJrxp8c-00039-00011197-00011542 so I just didn't bother I just carried +_x-KTJrxp8c-00040-00011543-00011738 on and so you know what I'm dealing with +_x-KTJrxp8c-00041-00011739-00011963 it I'll just keep on dealing with it and +_x-KTJrxp8c-00042-00011964-00012367 the way I am but last week when +_x-KTJrxp8c-00043-00012368-00012563 everything blew up respect to the BBC +_x-KTJrxp8c-00044-00012564-00012968 and blah blah blah and Rob Kelly who +_x-KTJrxp8c-00045-00012969-00013244 wrote it's us who has bent +_x-KTJrxp8c-00046-00013244-00013594 years writing this to make it the best +_x-KTJrxp8c-00047-00013595-00013991 it can be and got in contact with me and +_x-KTJrxp8c-00048-00013991-00014366 said no I reckon with my help you'll be +_x-KTJrxp8c-00049-00014366-00014927 able to do it in a month so I said okay +_x-KTJrxp8c-00050-00014928-00015050 then let's do it +_x-KTJrxp8c-00051-00015051-00015433 so got the book and have a first Skype +_x-KTJrxp8c-00052-00015434-00015704 session on Saturday and it's going well +_x-KTJrxp8c-00053-00015705-00016203 I'm doing all the exercises so far it +_x-KTJrxp8c-00054-00016204-00016487 allowed me to understand why I think the +_x-KTJrxp8c-00055-00016488-00016847 way I do and what I need to change about +_x-KTJrxp8c-00056-00016848-00017218 my thinking to improve the way I feel +_x-KTJrxp8c-00057-00017219-00017608 hello I am at home now and I am +_x-KTJrxp8c-00058-00017609-00017944 currently in my fourth week of the +_x-KTJrxp8c-00059-00017945-00018212 thrive program and I think it's going +_x-KTJrxp8c-00060-00018213-00018533 really well and I still have days where +_x-KTJrxp8c-00061-00018534-00019022 I feel anxious and I'll have thoughts +_x-KTJrxp8c-00062-00019023-00019300 about like promesa phobic thoughts about +_x-KTJrxp8c-00063-00019301-00019487 things but I'm much better at +_x-KTJrxp8c-00064-00019488-00019731 controlling it and a much better at +_x-KTJrxp8c-00065-00019732-00020191 overcoming it a lot quicker hello um +_x-KTJrxp8c-00066-00020192-00020759 this is my final set of four videos +_x-KTJrxp8c-00067-00020760-00021034 logging my progress through the thrive +_x-KTJrxp8c-00068-00021035-00021347 program this video is slightly overdue +_x-KTJrxp8c-00069-00021348-00021665 last week was my fourth week so the end +_x-KTJrxp8c-00070-00021666-00022159 of my month of the program I finished +_x-KTJrxp8c-00071-00022160-00022762 the book last week and I finished the +_x-KTJrxp8c-00072-00022763-00023075 last few chapters which were the dream +_x-KTJrxp8c-00073-00023076-00023330 technique overcoming your phobia and +_x-KTJrxp8c-00074-00023331-00023717 thriving so those are three chapters +_x-KTJrxp8c-00075-00023718-00023908 that I finished last week and I have to +_x-KTJrxp8c-00076-00023909-00024140 say while I was reading the chapter I +_x-KTJrxp8c-00077-00024141-00024316 was feeling really really anxious about +_x-KTJrxp8c-00078-00024317-00024596 the way my cell it was feeling that day +_x-KTJrxp8c-00079-00024597-00024950 after I'd had a weekend away with some +_x-KTJrxp8c-00080-00024951-00025136 friends and we've been drinking and +_x-KTJrxp8c-00081-00025137-00025394 eating a lot and I was exhausted and I +_x-KTJrxp8c-00082-00025395-00025528 was getting a bit anxious about the way +_x-KTJrxp8c-00083-00025529-00025664 my stomach was feeling but I managed to +_x-KTJrxp8c-00084-00025664-00025975 use a dream technique to understand that +_x-KTJrxp8c-00085-00025976-00026221 getting anxious about being ill was +_x-KTJrxp8c-00086-00026222-00026417 unhelpful rewarded myself for it +_x-KTJrxp8c-00087-00026418-00026525 changing it +_x-KTJrxp8c-00088-00026526-00026758 and I'm in control I'm turning this into +_x-KTJrxp8c-00089-00026760-00027020 anxiety when all it is just being run +_x-KTJrxp8c-00090-00027020-00027266 down after a long weekend and within +_x-KTJrxp8c-00091-00027267-00027548 minutes I would find I was just weren't +_x-KTJrxp8c-00092-00027549-00027818 asleep since I finished the book and +_x-KTJrxp8c-00093-00027819-00028019 since I've been applying all of these +_x-KTJrxp8c-00094-00028020-00028247 things to my life I have been reheating +_x-KTJrxp8c-00095-00028248-00028430 food I have been eating food that +_x-KTJrxp8c-00096-00028431-00028655 slightly out of date that is fine and I +_x-KTJrxp8c-00097-00028656-00028793 know it's fine and I don't need to +_x-KTJrxp8c-00098-00028794-00028874 overthink it +_x-KTJrxp8c-00099-00028875-00029099 I've eaten street food off my food +_x-KTJrxp8c-00100-00029100-00029444 market I have helped my friends be sick +_x-KTJrxp8c-00101-00029445-00029783 after a night out and watched it happen +_x-KTJrxp8c-00102-00029783-00029981 and not freaked out after all I wasn't +_x-KTJrxp8c-00103-00029982-00030455 scared in the slightest and my little +_x-KTJrxp8c-00104-00030456-00030670 brother wasn't very well and admittedly +_x-KTJrxp8c-00105-00030672-00030848 he didn't have a stomach bug so I feel +_x-KTJrxp8c-00106-00030849-00031077 like my reaction would have been +_x-KTJrxp8c-00107-00031079-00031310 different if he'd have had a stomach bug +_x-KTJrxp8c-00108-00031311-00031499 but he did say he felt sick and I was in +_x-KTJrxp8c-00109-00031500-00031763 the house and I did get into a panic but +_x-KTJrxp8c-00110-00031764-00031931 I managed to calm myself down and then +_x-KTJrxp8c-00111-00031932-00032114 spent the afternoon with him and spent +_x-KTJrxp8c-00112-00032114-00032255 the next morning looking after him on my +_x-KTJrxp8c-00113-00032256-00032513 own which I never would have done a few +_x-KTJrxp8c-00114-00032514-00032792 weeks ago so there are situations in my +_x-KTJrxp8c-00115-00032793-00033179 life that usually I would not have +_x-KTJrxp8c-00116-00033180-00033554 entered into that i 100% have without +_x-KTJrxp8c-00117-00033555-00033908 even any kind of anxiety at all in +_x-KTJrxp8c-00118-00033909-00034271 conclusion to my experience of the drive 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+_CW6M98815o-00022-00004023-00004079 creating +_CW6M98815o-00023-00004079-00004335 big positive change in the world i'll +_CW6M98815o-00024-00004336-00004502 pop the link for it in the description +_CW6M98815o-00025-00004503-00004551 below +_CW6M98815o-00026-00004552-00004751 so you can check it out crystals have +_CW6M98815o-00027-00004752-00004911 the ability to focus +_CW6M98815o-00028-00004912-00005286 store repel transmit or transform energy +_CW6M98815o-00029-00005287-00005495 and each crystal has one or more of +_CW6M98815o-00030-00005496-00005647 these properties +_CW6M98815o-00031-00005648-00005847 in this sense we can work with crystals +_CW6M98815o-00032-00005848-00006070 that help us focus our desire to find +_CW6M98815o-00033-00006071-00006183 inner peace +_CW6M98815o-00034-00006184-00006359 transmit certain energies and +_CW6M98815o-00035-00006360-00006559 frequencies to ourselves that will allow +_CW6M98815o-00036-00006559-00006823 us to gain a deeper state of meditation +_CW6M98815o-00037-00006823-00007095 or transform fears and negative energy +_CW6M98815o-00038-00007095-00007198 that prevent us from +_CW6M98815o-00039-00007200-00007495 experiencing inner peace as a trained +_CW6M98815o-00040-00007495-00007655 crystal reader and healer +_CW6M98815o-00041-00007656-00007863 i've worked with crystals for over 15 +_CW6M98815o-00042-00007864-00008103 years to help others and myself +_CW6M98815o-00043-00008104-00008383 to manifest a state of calm inner peace +_CW6M98815o-00044-00008384-00008607 and a deeper state of meditation +_CW6M98815o-00045-00008608-00008799 i'm excited to help you achieve similar +_CW6M98815o-00046-00008800-00008935 results in this video +_CW6M98815o-00047-00008936-00009095 if you'd like to learn more about the +_CW6M98815o-00048-00009096-00009271 science and mechanics through which +_CW6M98815o-00049-00009272-00009406 crystals work +_CW6M98815o-00050-00009407-00009606 be sure to watch my how to healing +_CW6M98815o-00051-00009607-00009751 crystals work video +_CW6M98815o-00052-00009752-00009903 which i've shared the link for in the +_CW6M98815o-00053-00009904-00010055 description below +_CW6M98815o-00054-00010056-00010310 i also have seven more videos on crystal +_CW6M98815o-00055-00010311-00010383 healing +_CW6M98815o-00056-00010384-00010631 including videos on how to use crystals +_CW6M98815o-00057-00010632-00010751 creating crystal +_CW6M98815o-00058-00010752-00011006 rose water and the best crystals to work +_CW6M98815o-00059-00011007-00011103 with to manifest +_CW6M98815o-00060-00011104-00011335 relationships wealth and success and +_CW6M98815o-00061-00011336-00011406 self-love +_CW6M98815o-00062-00011407-00011599 the link of that playlist is also in the +_CW6M98815o-00063-00011600-00011719 description below +_CW6M98815o-00064-00011720-00011983 okay without further ado here are my top +_CW6M98815o-00065-00011984-00012206 three crystals to use when meditating +_CW6M98815o-00066-00012207-00012438 to experience a deeper state of peace +_CW6M98815o-00067-00012439-00012638 and connection with source +_CW6M98815o-00068-00012639-00012958 the first crystal is amethyst amethyst +_CW6M98815o-00069-00012959-00013175 is an ideal crystal to work with +_CW6M98815o-00070-00013176-00013471 if you tend to overthink things with its +_CW6M98815o-00071-00013472-00013583 gentle energy +_CW6M98815o-00072-00013584-00013815 it will help you calm your mind release +_CW6M98815o-00073-00013816-00013911 anxiety +_CW6M98815o-00074-00013912-00014199 and be present in the here and now for +_CW6M98815o-00075-00014200-00014286 these reasons +_CW6M98815o-00076-00014287-00014486 amethyst is a great crystal to have on +_CW6M98815o-00077-00014487-00014630 your bedside table +_CW6M98815o-00078-00014631-00014855 and also a perfect ally for all +_CW6M98815o-00079-00014856-00014935 spiritual +_CW6M98815o-00080-00014936-00015143 practices it will open your third eye 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bangladesh +_V-EnVrwHnU-00022-00004687-00004879 these little people live in a village +_V-EnVrwHnU-00023-00004880-00005086 that was totally devastated by the +_V-EnVrwHnU-00024-00005087-00005215 cyclone +_V-EnVrwHnU-00025-00005216-00005527 he meets the bureaucrats foreign aid and +_V-EnVrwHnU-00026-00005528-00005702 large amounts of wealth and so on are +_V-EnVrwHnU-00027-00005703-00005831 created off by +_V-EnVrwHnU-00028-00005832-00006127 officials frontline sunday at 6 30 +_V-EnVrwHnU-00029-00006128-00006206 following one +_V-EnVrwHnU-00030-00006207-00006608 network news +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00000-00000016-00000726 [Music] +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00001-00000727-00000958 as i record this video i respectfully +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00002-00000959-00001127 acknowledge that i am standing on the +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00003-00001128-00001207 unseated +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00004-00001208-00001491 traditional territory of the comox first +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00005-00001492-00001671 nation +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00006-00001672-00001910 and this video is all about different +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00007-00001911-00002047 numeric types and how they're +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00008-00002048-00002151 represented in +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00009-00002152-00002350 jig so let's take a look at something +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00010-00002351-00002655 here so this is a variable i've declared +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00011-00002656-00002883 and it looks like a series of boxed +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00012-00002884-00003015 integers +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00013-00003016-00003351 but in reality because it's boxed these +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00014-00003352-00003743 integers actually have different types +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00015-00003744-00004054 and we can see that by the fonts that +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00016-00004055-00004343 have been chosen to represent the types +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00017-00004344-00004567 you can see that they are different +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00018-00004568-00004711 which ones are different how are they +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00019-00004712-00004791 different +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00020-00004792-00005086 well if i click here this is a boolean +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00021-00005087-00005151 shape +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00022-00005152-00005343 so when i see an outline like this an +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00023-00005344-00005463 outline font +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00024-00005464-00005783 that's boolean integer +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00025-00005784-00005991 is just a very simple straightforward +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00026-00005992-00006215 there's no enhancement at all +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00027-00006216-00006518 i fill in the the outline with gray +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00028-00006519-00006823 and i get extended fill it with blue and +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00029-00006823-00006991 i'm in floating +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00030-00006992-00007175 italicize it and fill it with green i +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00031-00007176-00007319 have a complex +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00032-00007320-00007814 type and bolded i have a rational type +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00033-00007815-00008046 so that just shows you the different +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00034-00008047-00008199 types actually look different +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00035-00008200-00008374 just by inspection you get used to going +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00036-00008375-00008623 oh that must be float because it's blue +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00037-00008624-00008759 those kind of things happen quite +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00038-00008760-00008951 quickly and it makes it very easy to +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00039-00008952-00009127 distinguish the types +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00040-00009128-00009295 but then within the types let's take a +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00041-00009296-00009567 look and see how this works so +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00042-00009568-00009839 we've got boolean which should be no +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00043-00009840-00010039 surprise it looks like that +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00044-00010040-00010295 zeros and ones outlined so right away we +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00045-00010296-00010703 know we're dealing with boolean +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00046-00010704-00010999 here integers so let's take a look at +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00047-00011000-00011046 that +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00048-00011047-00011359 hit f6 and they're my integers no +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00049-00011360-00011399 problem +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00050-00011400-00011559 that's just what integers look like for +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00051-00011560-00011903 inject +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00052-00011904-00012255 now in this one this very long integer +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00053-00012256-00012310 looks like +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00054-00012311-00012542 well because it's very long it's +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00055-00012543-00012719 actually extended +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00056-00012720-00012958 so this is the extended type so when i +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00057-00012959-00013151 see this light gray i know i'm actually +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00058-00013152-00013783 dealing with extended numbers +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00059-00013784-00014135 next one i'm looking here +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00060-00014136-00014630 at a float because it's got the exponent +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00061-00014631-00014879 and i can show you what that looks like +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00062-00014880-00014966 in jig +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00063-00014968-00015207 what i've been able to do because i'm +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00064-00015208-00015399 displaying everything in svg +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00065-00015400-00015630 i can actually change the font of the +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00066-00015631-00015719 separator +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00067-00015719-00015879 which makes it a bit easier to read i +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00068-00015880-00016079 can read the front part +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00069-00016080-00016279 the and then the exponent i think it's +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00070-00016280-00016503 mantissa and exponent +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00071-00016504-00016927 for complex +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00072-00016928-00017279 i can use floats as the real or the +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00073-00017280-00017535 imaginary part of the complex and again +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00074-00017536-00017830 i've been able to change the font of the +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00075-00017831-00018014 central part so right away you can see +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00076-00018015-00018150 it's easily separated +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00077-00018151-00018439 and where this is really useful is in +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00078-00018440-00018591 something like +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00079-00018592-00018991 this which is a rational number it's a +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00080-00018992-00019191 ratio of two +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00081-00019192-00019519 numbers and +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00082-00019520-00019743 by highlighted in red it makes it much +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00083-00019744-00019855 easier to +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00084-00019856-00020022 know that this is the numerator and this +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00085-00020023-00020175 is the denominator +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00086-00020176-00020519 so it's this number over that number +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00087-00020520-00020830 and that's rational and that's actually +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00088-00020831-00021199 j's rational approximation +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00089-00021200-00021439 of pi so this is how jig makes the +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00090-00021440-00021630 numeric types a little more accessible +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00091-00021631-00021863 to you when you're working in a session +_VOZ_lsYXeA-00092-00021864-00022784 i hope that helps +_Wker0Qa9AU-00000-00000512-00000807 hello everyone welcome back to my +_Wker0Qa9AU-00001-00000808-00001031 channel in kemp's pep talk if you are +_Wker0Qa9AU-00002-00001032-00001262 visiting for the first time please hit +_Wker0Qa9AU-00003-00001263-00001511 the subscribe button to encourage us +_Wker0Qa9AU-00004-00001512-00001751 tomorrow and if you have subscribed +_Wker0Qa9AU-00005-00001752-00002271 already thank you again and again today +_Wker0Qa9AU-00006-00002272-00002510 i want to share with you another +_Wker0Qa9AU-00007-00002511-00002799 mind-blowing testimony that would +_Wker0Qa9AU-00008-00002800-00003134 actually make you shed tears of joy god +_Wker0Qa9AU-00009-00003135-00003543 of wonders has done it again he is +_Wker0Qa9AU-00010-00003544-00003999 always on time this lady in this video +_Wker0Qa9AU-00011-00004000-00004303 testified of his son who was born with a +_Wker0Qa9AU-00012-00004304-00004838 heart disease in 2019 after she lost two +_Wker0Qa9AU-00013-00004839-00005143 children at birth first one came a steel +_Wker0Qa9AU-00014-00005144-00005463 birth second one came at silver then +_Wker0Qa9AU-00015-00005464-00005663 this third one came with a heart +_Wker0Qa9AU-00016-00005664-00006006 condition a hole in the heart the boy +_Wker0Qa9AU-00017-00006007-00006295 was diagnosed with a hole in the heart +_Wker0Qa9AU-00018-00006296-00006655 having only a single ventricle that is +_Wker0Qa9AU-00019-00006656-00007046 only one vein supplying blood and oxygen +_Wker0Qa9AU-00020-00007047-00007310 one vein performing the function of a +_Wker0Qa9AU-00021-00007311-00007663 preliminary vein and a pulmonary artery +_Wker0Qa9AU-00022-00007664-00007991 she said my son lost weight drastically +_Wker0Qa9AU-00023-00007992-00008471 weighing 2.9 kg as a one-year-old which +_Wker0Qa9AU-00024-00008472-00008751 is the weight of a newly born baby +_Wker0Qa9AU-00025-00008752-00009255 whereas his boy weighed at bed 3.2 kg he +_Wker0Qa9AU-00026-00009256-00009671 developed hydrocele big scrotum this is +_Wker0Qa9AU-00027-00009672-00010055 a swelling of scrotum a condition mostly +_Wker0Qa9AU-00028-00010056-00010351 common in newborn males and disappeared +_Wker0Qa9AU-00029-00010352-00010614 by one year without treatment but in +_Wker0Qa9AU-00030-00010615-00010878 this case it did not disappear for the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00031-00010879-00011151 benefit of people who do not know what +_Wker0Qa9AU-00032-00011152-00011351 hydroxyl means +_Wker0Qa9AU-00033-00011352-00011870 is a condition whereby the fluid from +_Wker0Qa9AU-00034-00011871-00012214 abdomen start collecting in the tissues +_Wker0Qa9AU-00035-00012215-00012438 surrounding one or +_Wker0Qa9AU-00036-00012439-00012910 both testicles so this boy developed big +_Wker0Qa9AU-00037-00012911-00013286 sculpture from a condition called +_Wker0Qa9AU-00038-00013287-00013630 hydrocele not only that he also +_Wker0Qa9AU-00039-00013631-00014047 developed rectal prolax rectal prolax is +_Wker0Qa9AU-00040-00014047-00014399 a condition whereby part of the large +_Wker0Qa9AU-00041-00014400-00014886 intestine sleeps outside the anus oh my +_Wker0Qa9AU-00042-00014887-00015311 god whenever the boy pulls the intestine +_Wker0Qa9AU-00043-00015312-00015638 shoots out if you see it you can't eat +_Wker0Qa9AU-00044-00015640-00015927 i lose control whenever it happens the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00045-00015928-00016311 mother said i can imagine the kind of +_Wker0Qa9AU-00046-00016312-00016511 emotions this woman would have been +_Wker0Qa9AU-00047-00016512-00016767 battling with but god is god +_Wker0Qa9AU-00048-00016768-00016894 listen guys +_Wker0Qa9AU-00049-00016895-00017350 however his mother said due to her son's +_Wker0Qa9AU-00050-00017351-00017622 peculiar case he was shadow for a +_Wker0Qa9AU-00051-00017623-00017927 pediatric surgery to correct the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00052-00017928-00018263 hydrocele condition and the consultant +_Wker0Qa9AU-00053-00018264-00018583 also recommended a heart surgery for the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00054-00018584-00018911 boy in china where is the money before +_Wker0Qa9AU-00055-00018912-00019167 the coffee 19 locked down +_Wker0Qa9AU-00056-00019168-00019430 she said the pastor from her church in +_Wker0Qa9AU-00057-00019431-00019694 potter court supported her to come to +_Wker0Qa9AU-00058-00019695-00019999 dynamics she says she came and partook +_Wker0Qa9AU-00059-00020000-00020294 of the holy communion and went back in +_Wker0Qa9AU-00060-00020295-00020678 faith mira closely the hydrocele and +_Wker0Qa9AU-00061-00020679-00020991 director prolax disappeared disappeared +_Wker0Qa9AU-00062-00020992-00021263 back to hell thank you jesus +_Wker0Qa9AU-00063-00021264-00021630 she said afterwards she started battling +_Wker0Qa9AU-00064-00021631-00021919 with the boy's heart condition and while +_Wker0Qa9AU-00065-00021920-00022263 in the process her sugar level became so +_Wker0Qa9AU-00066-00022264-00022350 high +_Wker0Qa9AU-00067-00022351-00022839 between 380 to 400 mgdl sometimes she +_Wker0Qa9AU-00068-00022840-00023135 says she will wake up with numbness of +_Wker0Qa9AU-00069-00023136-00023463 the hand and always very weak +_Wker0Qa9AU-00070-00023464-00023735 she said the medical struggles ate so +_Wker0Qa9AU-00071-00023736-00024086 deep in her financials that each month +_Wker0Qa9AU-00072-00024087-00024342 even before the salary comes the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00073-00024343-00024630 accomplice would have been in red +_Wker0Qa9AU-00074-00024631-00024967 because on many occasions he his boy +_Wker0Qa9AU-00075-00024968-00025286 will be rushed to the hospital on +_Wker0Qa9AU-00076-00025287-00025639 emergency while she herself was placed +_Wker0Qa9AU-00077-00025639-00025983 on regular insulin and traped of hundred +_Wker0Qa9AU-00078-00025983-00026302 meal called this god of wonder however +_Wker0Qa9AU-00079-00026304-00026567 she returned to abuja to attend miracle +_Wker0Qa9AU-00080-00026568-00026679 service +_Wker0Qa9AU-00081-00026680-00027023 during the power declaration by senior +_Wker0Qa9AU-00082-00027024-00027270 pastor paul and nache +_Wker0Qa9AU-00083-00027272-00027551 at the shout of i receive +_Wker0Qa9AU-00084-00027552-00027999 god of wandas did it again +_Wker0Qa9AU-00085-00028000-00028118 hey +_Wker0Qa9AU-00086-00028119-00028367 pastor pauline neche +_Wker0Qa9AU-00087-00028368-00028511 shouted +_Wker0Qa9AU-00088-00028512-00028807 divine surgery happened +_Wker0Qa9AU-00089-00028808-00029174 at this point ladies and gentlemen +_Wker0Qa9AU-00090-00029175-00029270 please +_Wker0Qa9AU-00091-00029272-00029631 watch this video to experience god at +_Wker0Qa9AU-00092-00029632-00029951 work also comment below if you were +_Wker0Qa9AU-00093-00029952-00030343 moved by this testimony i pray god will +_Wker0Qa9AU-00094-00030344-00030799 meet each of us at our point of need +_Wker0Qa9AU-00095-00030800-00031023 amen +_Wker0Qa9AU-00096-00031024-00031231 church praise the lord i am mrs norah +_Wker0Qa9AU-00097-00031232-00031511 onyema from potakots i lost my mum when +_Wker0Qa9AU-00098-00031512-00031823 i was nine years old then since 2014 to +_Wker0Qa9AU-00099-00031824-00032102 217 i lost five persons in the house +_Wker0Qa9AU-00100-00032103-00032318 apart from my dad the four rest of my +_Wker0Qa9AU-00101-00032319-00032551 siblings they died out of diabetes then +_Wker0Qa9AU-00102-00032552-00032823 one of my other sister left her marriage +_Wker0Qa9AU-00103-00032824-00032999 after she gave birth to five children +_Wker0Qa9AU-00104-00033000-00033262 and they were all gone then in 2015 i +_Wker0Qa9AU-00105-00033263-00033479 were dead i didn't know that this local +_Wker0Qa9AU-00106-00033480-00033695 demon followed me to my husband's house +_Wker0Qa9AU-00107-00033696-00033951 216 i had a seatbelt +_Wker0Qa9AU-00108-00033952-00034343 217 i had a seatbelt also then 2 19 and +_Wker0Qa9AU-00109-00034344-00034567 i had this ball another problem began i +_Wker0Qa9AU-00110-00034568-00034783 observed that he was not adding weight +_Wker0Qa9AU-00111-00034784-00034943 i took him back to the teaching hospital +_Wker0Qa9AU-00112-00034944-00035167 where i heard him they say he had a hole +_Wker0Qa9AU-00113-00035168-00035367 in the heart with single ventricle he's +_Wker0Qa9AU-00114-00035368-00035551 only one vendor supplying blood and +_Wker0Qa9AU-00115-00035552-00035743 oxygen this boy was losing weight +_Wker0Qa9AU-00116-00035744-00036015 drastically after the extent that at one +_Wker0Qa9AU-00117-00036016-00036318 year he was weighing 2.9 kg +_Wker0Qa9AU-00118-00036319-00036551 so one of my pastors saw what i was one +_Wker0Qa9AU-00119-00036552-00036646 year +_Wker0Qa9AU-00120-00036647-00036967 he was weighing 2.9 kg that's like the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00121-00036968-00037207 size 2.9 kilograms +_Wker0Qa9AU-00122-00037208-00037495 yes that's the size of a newborn baby +_Wker0Qa9AU-00123-00037496-00037774 not even up to his best weight his +_Wker0Qa9AU-00124-00037775-00037967 bet weight is between point five to +_Wker0Qa9AU-00125-00037968-00038159 three point five he's better he's two +_Wker0Qa9AU-00126-00038160-00038343 point nine one of my pastor saw what i +_Wker0Qa9AU-00127-00038344-00038535 was going through he installed dunamis +_Wker0Qa9AU-00128-00038536-00038774 tv for me and supported me to come here +_Wker0Qa9AU-00129-00038775-00039055 in 2020. before i came not only that he +_Wker0Qa9AU-00130-00039056-00039343 was having hydrocele that is big scrotum +_Wker0Qa9AU-00131-00039344-00039543 which they've given me a letter to go +_Wker0Qa9AU-00132-00039544-00039790 for pediatric surgery and he was having +_Wker0Qa9AU-00133-00039791-00040095 rectal prolapse too what listen +_Wker0Qa9AU-00134-00040096-00040335 hydrocele rectal prolapse and the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00135-00040336-00040543 univentricular heart the heart has the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00136-00040544-00040735 left and right ventricle the right for +_Wker0Qa9AU-00137-00040736-00040943 the oxygenated blood the left fox united +_Wker0Qa9AU-00138-00040944-00041183 blood now this one is one so they are +_Wker0Qa9AU-00139-00041184-00041399 mixing together incredible so my +_Wker0Qa9AU-00140-00041400-00041558 consultants keep telling me that she +_Wker0Qa9AU-00141-00041559-00041702 started looking for money because this +_Wker0Qa9AU-00142-00041703-00041951 condition was so critical that to fly +_Wker0Qa9AU-00143-00041952-00042158 him to china for +_Wker0Qa9AU-00144-00042159-00042399 her surgery of which i don't even give +_Wker0Qa9AU-00145-00042400-00042567 me a letter we started moving from +_Wker0Qa9AU-00146-00042568-00042735 church to church to look for help we +_Wker0Qa9AU-00147-00042736-00042935 couldn't see so my pastor encouraged my +_Wker0Qa9AU-00148-00042936-00043102 evil supported me to come here we are +_Wker0Qa9AU-00149-00043103-00043287 here when becoming 19 sets we only +_Wker0Qa9AU-00150-00043288-00043462 partook in the holy communion service +_Wker0Qa9AU-00151-00043463-00043671 and went back in faith and the hydro +_Wker0Qa9AU-00152-00043672-00043951 cell disappeared director prolapse +_Wker0Qa9AU-00153-00043952-00044087 disappeared +_Wker0Qa9AU-00154-00044088-00044343 whenever the boy passes to the intestine +_Wker0Qa9AU-00155-00044344-00044615 shoots out if you see it he can't eat i +_Wker0Qa9AU-00156-00044616-00044830 lose control once i see that +_Wker0Qa9AU-00157-00044831-00045071 so that day in fact immediately a flat +_Wker0Qa9AU-00158-00045072-00045239 landed that day in the evening they +_Wker0Qa9AU-00159-00045240-00045423 declared that no more flights again no +_Wker0Qa9AU-00160-00045424-00045590 more traveling interstate because of the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00161-00045591-00045727 covey 19. +_Wker0Qa9AU-00162-00045728-00045918 since then we started balling battling +_Wker0Qa9AU-00163-00045919-00046199 with the heart condition and then myself +_Wker0Qa9AU-00164-00046200-00046471 my sugar level became so high it was too +_Wker0Qa9AU-00165-00046472-00046751 high that it was reading about 380 to +_Wker0Qa9AU-00166-00046752-00046911 400 +_Wker0Qa9AU-00167-00046912-00047167 mgdl +_Wker0Qa9AU-00168-00047168-00047415 i feel weak if i wake up my i have +_Wker0Qa9AU-00169-00047416-00047630 numbness of the hands and legs +_Wker0Qa9AU-00170-00047631-00047862 badly with him i feed him every hour +_Wker0Qa9AU-00171-00047863-00048062 because if you feed him much you throw +_Wker0Qa9AU-00172-00048063-00048262 up he's very weak +_Wker0Qa9AU-00173-00048263-00048446 these are what i've been battling in +_Wker0Qa9AU-00174-00048447-00048743 fact every month with with before two +_Wker0Qa9AU-00175-00048744-00048983 weeks of our salary paid our accounts +_Wker0Qa9AU-00176-00048984-00049223 begin to blink red because on several +_Wker0Qa9AU-00177-00049224-00049415 occasions we rushed him to hospital to +_Wker0Qa9AU-00178-00049416-00049671 support him on oxygen and antibiotics to +_Wker0Qa9AU-00179-00049672-00050015 clear the heart if he's infected +_Wker0Qa9AU-00180-00050016-00050223 so now our pastor mandated us that we +_Wker0Qa9AU-00181-00050224-00050455 must come back again i discovered my +_Wker0Qa9AU-00182-00050456-00050646 husband and said i should come when i +_Wker0Qa9AU-00183-00050647-00050846 came as i was trying to come what spirit +_Wker0Qa9AU-00184-00050847-00050990 was like go with your insulin because +_Wker0Qa9AU-00185-00050991-00051230 i'm on regular on history insulin and +_Wker0Qa9AU-00186-00051232-00051502 trap it's 100 units i said no i'm not +_Wker0Qa9AU-00187-00051503-00051638 going that's basically if you go there +_Wker0Qa9AU-00188-00051639-00051887 you will faint i said better i think +_Wker0Qa9AU-00189-00051888-00052054 it's that i die here +_Wker0Qa9AU-00190-00052055-00052230 so i left it you're not going to die +_Wker0Qa9AU-00191-00052232-00052438 here i would not and i didn't die when i +_Wker0Qa9AU-00192-00052439-00052599 came on monday +_Wker0Qa9AU-00193-00052600-00052750 on tuesday we are here for healing and +_Wker0Qa9AU-00194-00052751-00052950 deliverance on wednesday we are here for +_Wker0Qa9AU-00195-00052951-00053142 coming on friday nights we are there the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00196-00053144-00053335 miracle nights at the chat shuttle i +_Wker0Qa9AU-00197-00053336-00053582 received i saw a man on suit he came and +_Wker0Qa9AU-00198-00053583-00053791 opened the back of my sons and was +_Wker0Qa9AU-00199-00053791-00053911 removing something that looks like +_Wker0Qa9AU-00200-00053912-00054199 intestine and he was about moving too he +_Wker0Qa9AU-00201-00054200-00054423 then came back opened me up and removed +_Wker0Qa9AU-00202-00054424-00054638 a black substance and put in another one +_Wker0Qa9AU-00203-00054639-00054838 and this thing happened so fast +_Wker0Qa9AU-00204-00054839-00055054 although before then you know as i would +_Wker0Qa9AU-00205-00055055-00055311 constantly watch um do not miss tv i do +_Wker0Qa9AU-00206-00055312-00055503 see mommy and daddy pay off the visits +_Wker0Qa9AU-00207-00055504-00055679 on one occasion she came and was asking +_Wker0Qa9AU-00208-00055679-00055879 me the dream exactly what was going on +_Wker0Qa9AU-00209-00055879-00056111 in myself yes that sister the one my +_Wker0Qa9AU-00210-00056112-00056375 immediate sister was a mobile officer i +_Wker0Qa9AU-00211-00056376-00056559 said she's dead he said yeah that's why +_Wker0Qa9AU-00212-00056560-00056782 we came because people can come so i and +_Wker0Qa9AU-00213-00056783-00056999 daddy we came to visit you she took me +_Wker0Qa9AU-00214-00057000-00057166 to daddy and that he prayed and broke +_Wker0Qa9AU-00215-00057167-00057238 the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00216-00057239-00057454 hold of premature death and since then +_Wker0Qa9AU-00217-00057455-00057703 to eternity no one has died so what +_Wker0Qa9AU-00218-00057704-00057879 happened on friday night after you saw +_Wker0Qa9AU-00219-00057879-00058175 that vision so after that i observed +_Wker0Qa9AU-00220-00058176-00058350 that i'm not normal +_Wker0Qa9AU-00221-00058351-00058654 i eat whatever i want to eat the sugar +_Wker0Qa9AU-00222-00058655-00058863 high level and simpsons have checked +_Wker0Qa9AU-00223-00058864-00059087 back to hell and this boy has been very +_Wker0Qa9AU-00224-00059088-00059342 active he can walk from here to get even +_Wker0Qa9AU-00225-00059344-00059623 to be i would get tazzy i take his +_Wker0Qa9AU-00226-00059624-00059854 breath this morning instead of 60 is +_Wker0Qa9AU-00227-00059855-00060159 that 4c and his scholar is normal +_Wker0Qa9AU-00228-00060160-00060382 anything he wants if i is the one asking +_Wker0Qa9AU-00229-00060383-00060623 me mommy i want to eat this buy this why +_Wker0Qa9AU-00230-00060624-00060766 is a boy that +_Wker0Qa9AU-00231-00060767-00060919 i would even struggle to fit in with +_Wker0Qa9AU-00232-00060920-00061103 biscuits you still throw up i just i +_Wker0Qa9AU-00233-00061104-00061238 don't want to take it for granted i just +_Wker0Qa9AU-00234-00061239-00061463 want to return a surgery has happened +_Wker0Qa9AU-00235-00061464-00061663 stand up on your feet everyone sir 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confirm that we now have +_Wker0Qa9AU-00265-00068200-00068519 two ventricles instead of one the left +_Wker0Qa9AU-00266-00068520-00068775 and the right ventricle today will be +_Wker0Qa9AU-00267-00068776-00068935 the obituary +_Wker0Qa9AU-00268-00068936-00069175 of every ancestral cause every +_Wker0Qa9AU-00269-00069176-00069375 generation occurs +_Wker0Qa9AU-00270-00069376-00069711 every family cares anything that kills +_Wker0Qa9AU-00271-00069712-00070047 people in your family before their time +_Wker0Qa9AU-00272-00070048-00070415 today that death shall die now listen to +_Wker0Qa9AU-00273-00070416-00070647 this if you are here in person or you +_Wker0Qa9AU-00274-00070648-00070806 are watching online anywhere you are +_Wker0Qa9AU-00275-00070807-00071031 whatever has put your life under +_Wker0Qa9AU-00276-00071032-00071262 pressure today that pressure shall +_Wker0Qa9AU-00277-00071263-00071375 expire +_Wker0Qa9AU-00278-00071376-00071687 and censor curse shall dissolve 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and then opened her +_Wker0Qa9AU-00293-00075527-00075599 up +_Wker0Qa9AU-00294-00075600-00075799 that was when the diabetes that killed +_Wker0Qa9AU-00295-00075800-00076071 her mother her father had four siblings +_Wker0Qa9AU-00296-00076072-00076255 disappeared back to hell +_Wker0Qa9AU-00297-00076256-00076438 and the affliction of the boy +_Wker0Qa9AU-00298-00076439-00076662 disappeared down to her since then the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00299-00076663-00076887 boy is running up and down looking for +_Wker0Qa9AU-00300-00076888-00077167 food see if she will see the energy the +_Wker0Qa9AU-00301-00077168-00077279 energy +_Wker0Qa9AU-00302-00077280-00077526 looking for biscuit and so on what a +_Wker0Qa9AU-00303-00077527-00077799 faithful god god will give you that kind +_Wker0Qa9AU-00304-00077800-00078071 of story today +_Wker0Qa9AU-00305-00078072-00078238 can we go on and give the lord a +_Wker0Qa9AU-00306-00078239-00078599 celebration +_Wker0Qa9AU-00307-00078600-00079060 everybody look and see +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00000-00000138-00000449 and how much Allah likes the fear of +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00001-00000450-00000688 Allah and crying out of the fear of +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00002-00000689-00000869 Allah +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00003-00000869-00001229 in bukhari is a hadees narrates the +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00004-00001230-00001558 prophecy said that the truth drops which +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00005-00001559-00001882 Allah likes the most +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00006-00001884-00002291 the first is the drop of blood of a +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00007-00002292-00002525 martyr at the time of martyrdom and +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00008-00002526-00002921 second is the drop of tear from the eyes +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00009-00002922-00003166 of a Believer when he cries for the fear +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00010-00003167-00003377 of Allah +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00011-00003378-00003785 and the two eyes which Allah likes and +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00012-00003786-00004019 loves the most +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00013-00004020-00004319 and honors the most our number one is +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00014-00004320-00004691 the I which I mentioned yesterday also +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00015-00004692-00005027 the eye which keeps on the watch and the +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00016-00005028-00005152 look out +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00017-00005153-00005441 to protect the boundaries of an Islamic +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00018-00005442-00005777 State and the second eye is the eye of +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00019-00005778-00006101 believer who cries due to the fear of +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00020-00006102-00006539 Allah who cries +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00021-00006540-00006928 who cries out to the fear of Allah of +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00022-00006929-00007205 the sins which he has committed which +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00023-00007206-00007481 might make him +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00024-00007481-00007781 might make him be one of the people of +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00025-00007781-00008003 Hellfire +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00026-00008004-00008485 and how important these stairs are +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00027-00008486-00008821 Allah +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00028-00008822-00009155 said the tears that fall from the eyes +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00029-00009156-00009467 of a True Believer 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there going to be certain lucky +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00059-00019865-00020003 people +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00060-00020004-00020194 are there going to be certain lucky +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00061-00020195-00020386 people who are going to enter Jannah +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00062-00020387-00020633 without any accountability +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00063-00020634-00021022 Prophet salallahu said yes o Aisha +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00064-00021023-00021317 the people who enter the Jannah without +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00065-00021318-00021653 any accountability will be the people +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00066-00021654-00022055 who when they are all by themselves +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00067-00022056-00022330 in their Solitude when they are all by +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00068-00022331-00022571 themselves alone +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00069-00022572-00022828 and they remember their sins +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00070-00022829-00023111 and they cry out of the fear of Allah +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00071-00023112-00023399 these will be the people +_Xc1DqfDUA8-00072-00023400-00023693 who will be allowed to or who will be 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+_aOs9WKSZPg-00055-00014718-00014953 vision of Atman Bharat +_aOs9WKSZPg-00056-00014954-00015407 for schemes like Agri infra fund or +_aOs9WKSZPg-00057-00015408-00015688 animal husbandry Development Fund or +_aOs9WKSZPg-00058-00015690-00015893 formalization of micro Enterprises +_aOs9WKSZPg-00059-00015894-00016177 everything we are trying to ensure that +_aOs9WKSZPg-00060-00016178-00016583 the desired beneficiaries as per the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00061-00016584-00016799 guidelines of the government are taken +_aOs9WKSZPg-00062-00016800-00017039 care of by our different units +_aOs9WKSZPg-00063-00017040-00017333 functioning in different states +_aOs9WKSZPg-00064-00017334-00017494 at the same time +_aOs9WKSZPg-00065-00017495-00017836 we have also to ensure that the benefits +_aOs9WKSZPg-00066-00017837-00018047 of financial inclusion +_aOs9WKSZPg-00067-00018048-00018307 which is reaching the lower lower most +_aOs9WKSZPg-00068-00018308-00018808 corner of the state is also ah +_aOs9WKSZPg-00069-00018809-00019127 helping them in graduating to the next +_aOs9WKSZPg-00070-00019128-00019222 level +_aOs9WKSZPg-00071-00019223-00019577 so that they are not only free in +_aOs9WKSZPg-00072-00019578-00019913 getting deposits but they are also able +_aOs9WKSZPg-00073-00019914-00020158 to take advantage of various schemes for +_aOs9WKSZPg-00074-00020159-00020413 their own upgradation +_aOs9WKSZPg-00075-00020414-00020603 technology-wise digital wise we have +_aOs9WKSZPg-00076-00020604-00020779 ensured that our app +_aOs9WKSZPg-00077-00020780-00020971 SBI you know +_aOs9WKSZPg-00078-00020972-00021250 it is registered with most of our +_aOs9WKSZPg-00079-00021251-00021444 customers so that they can understand +_aOs9WKSZPg-00080-00021445-00021749 that the banking facility is available +_aOs9WKSZPg-00081-00021750-00022061 to them at the click of a mouse or a in +_aOs9WKSZPg-00082-00022062-00022277 the mobile itself +_aOs9WKSZPg-00083-00022278-00022475 the online banking facility is also +_aOs9WKSZPg-00084-00022476-00022727 available to all the customers whoever +_aOs9WKSZPg-00085-00022728-00022943 wants to use that so that they don't +_aOs9WKSZPg-00086-00022944-00023099 need to go to the branches for their +_aOs9WKSZPg-00087-00023100-00023369 daily banking needs in fact 95 percent +_aOs9WKSZPg-00088-00023370-00023536 of the transactions that the bank does +_aOs9WKSZPg-00089-00023537-00023644 in the state +_aOs9WKSZPg-00090-00023645-00023891 is done outside the branch that is +_aOs9WKSZPg-00091-00023892-00024077 alternate channels which you use we call +_aOs9WKSZPg-00092-00024078-00024305 that as a online banking Channel or +_aOs9WKSZPg-00093-00024306-00024628 digital channel or through csps so all +_aOs9WKSZPg-00094-00024629-00024761 these facilities are we are making +_aOs9WKSZPg-00095-00024762-00025078 available to the customers so that all +_aOs9WKSZPg-00096-00025079-00025235 the banking products all the banking +_aOs9WKSZPg-00097-00025236-00025414 facilities are available to them +_aOs9WKSZPg-00098-00025415-00025655 so that is how our plan is that going +_aOs9WKSZPg-00099-00025656-00025962 forward also this +_aOs9WKSZPg-00100-00025963-00026200 intensity of financial inclusion will +_aOs9WKSZPg-00101-00026201-00026405 further depend so Tamil Nadu is the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00102-00026406-00026620 second biggest economy in the country +_aOs9WKSZPg-00103-00026622-00026927 after Maharashtra with the GDP of close +_aOs9WKSZPg-00104-00026927-00027179 to 310 billion dollars so of roughly 25 +_aOs9WKSZPg-00105-00027180-00027352 lakh crores +_aOs9WKSZPg-00106-00027354-00027701 and this state is growing at a rate +_aOs9WKSZPg-00107-00027702-00027905 faster than the national average +_aOs9WKSZPg-00108-00027906-00028177 so we want to be part of that +_aOs9WKSZPg-00109-00028177-00028408 journey of this state in terms of +_aOs9WKSZPg-00110-00028410-00028637 Economic Development +_aOs9WKSZPg-00111-00028638-00028924 in terms of providing Finance to all the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00112-00028925-00029087 budding entrepreneurs +_aOs9WKSZPg-00113-00029088-00029477 the I.T areas where we are located with +_aOs9WKSZPg-00114-00029477-00029746 two three branches including in the IIT +_aOs9WKSZPg-00115-00029747-00029914 Madras +_aOs9WKSZPg-00116-00029916-00030127 and we are also trying to ensure that +_aOs9WKSZPg-00117-00030127-00030377 the development activities in terms of +_aOs9WKSZPg-00118-00030377-00030624 housing in terms of +_aOs9WKSZPg-00119-00030625-00030862 ancillary units which are developing +_aOs9WKSZPg-00120-00030863-00031090 around the Clusters that we have in of +_aOs9WKSZPg-00121-00031091-00031408 Auto or textile so all these things will +_aOs9WKSZPg-00122-00031410-00031690 make sure that not only we are able to +_aOs9WKSZPg-00123-00031691-00031840 take care of the growing needs of the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00124-00031841-00032087 people we'll also come out come up with +_aOs9WKSZPg-00125-00032088-00032411 many Innovative and uh easy products +_aOs9WKSZPg-00126-00032412-00032668 which can be used by the customers for +_aOs9WKSZPg-00127-00032669-00033001 their own benefits that is where our +_aOs9WKSZPg-00128-00033002-00033431 efforts to take the digital channel +_aOs9WKSZPg-00129-00033432-00033671 to all the customers will help +_aOs9WKSZPg-00130-00033672-00034055 first of all when that digital app or +_aOs9WKSZPg-00131-00034056-00034343 online banking is working perfectly +_aOs9WKSZPg-00132-00034344-00034546 most of your banking transactions can be +_aOs9WKSZPg-00133-00034547-00034745 done from your home +_aOs9WKSZPg-00134-00034746-00034955 in cases where you need the support of +_aOs9WKSZPg-00135-00034956-00035268 our staff members the branches are there +_aOs9WKSZPg-00136-00035269-00035531 trained skilled amendment power is there +_aOs9WKSZPg-00137-00035532-00035711 which will help you in the most customer +_aOs9WKSZPg-00138-00035712-00036029 friendly manner to get the work done +_aOs9WKSZPg-00139-00036030-00036168 similarly +_aOs9WKSZPg-00140-00036169-00036545 those customers who are illiterate +_aOs9WKSZPg-00141-00036546-00036731 we are we have the facility of those +_aOs9WKSZPg-00142-00036732-00036959 step banking also those who are unable +_aOs9WKSZPg-00143-00036960-00037199 to come to the branch the bed we have +_aOs9WKSZPg-00144-00037200-00037396 the doorstep facility for the pensioners +_aOs9WKSZPg-00145-00037397-00037649 as well as for the old customers where +_aOs9WKSZPg-00146-00037650-00038140 the uh our Mitra or a supportive staff +_aOs9WKSZPg-00147-00038141-00038345 can reach to the customers at a very +_aOs9WKSZPg-00148-00038346-00038585 nominal charges and get the work done +_aOs9WKSZPg-00149-00038586-00038752 done for them +_aOs9WKSZPg-00150-00038753-00039017 the is scheme wise also we have a lot of +_aOs9WKSZPg-00151-00039018-00039280 scheme for marginalized section +_aOs9WKSZPg-00152-00039281-00039455 where the rate of interest charge is +_aOs9WKSZPg-00153-00039456-00039557 very low +_aOs9WKSZPg-00154-00039558-00039790 and where they can get uh where the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00155-00039791-00040001 requirement of security is not there say +_aOs9WKSZPg-00156-00040002-00040289 education loan up to 7.5 lakhs or +_aOs9WKSZPg-00157-00040290-00040589 affordable housing segments where uh you +_aOs9WKSZPg-00158-00040590-00040793 don't need to give any collateral you +_aOs9WKSZPg-00159-00040794-00041146 are the funding is done based on the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00160-00041147-00041518 project cost and the the initial +_aOs9WKSZPg-00161-00041519-00041705 contribution from your side +_aOs9WKSZPg-00162-00041706-00041939 so we are trying to ensure that each +_aOs9WKSZPg-00163-00041940-00042202 customer or each borrower gets all the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00164-00042203-00042430 benefits of the bank in a very customer +_aOs9WKSZPg-00165-00042431-00042624 friendly manner life certificate +_aOs9WKSZPg-00166-00042625-00042946 submission is uh is a one issue that has +_aOs9WKSZPg-00167-00042947-00043033 been +_aOs9WKSZPg-00168-00043034-00043283 important and +_aOs9WKSZPg-00169-00043284-00043445 getting the attention of all the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00170-00043446-00043709 pensioners what bank has done is one is +_aOs9WKSZPg-00171-00043710-00043865 that you can come personally to the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00172-00043866-00044111 branch and submit your life certificate +_aOs9WKSZPg-00173-00044112-00044302 that is number one number two you can +_aOs9WKSZPg-00174-00044303-00044501 get it through the video video mode also +_aOs9WKSZPg-00175-00044502-00044699 so life certificates in case you are +_aOs9WKSZPg-00176-00044700-00044962 unable to come we have the app facility +_aOs9WKSZPg-00177-00044963-00045239 through app where you can submit your +_aOs9WKSZPg-00178-00045240-00045407 life certificate it will be validated +_aOs9WKSZPg-00179-00045408-00045701 through your aadhar card and your kyc +_aOs9WKSZPg-00180-00045702-00045917 details and based on that even if you +_aOs9WKSZPg-00181-00045918-00046151 are unable to come your your pension +_aOs9WKSZPg-00182-00046152-00046408 will continue after submission of your +_aOs9WKSZPg-00183-00046409-00046607 life certificate through video mode see +_aOs9WKSZPg-00184-00046608-00046883 we have the Omnibus contact center +_aOs9WKSZPg-00185-00046884-00047033 number that is one eight hundred one two +_aOs9WKSZPg-00186-00047034-00047261 three four that is the number where you +_aOs9WKSZPg-00187-00047262-00047501 can call for this facility second nearby +_aOs9WKSZPg-00188-00047502-00047740 branches wherever uh you are banking +_aOs9WKSZPg-00189-00047741-00047974 with the phone number is available of +_aOs9WKSZPg-00190-00047975-00048101 the the mobile number of the branch +_aOs9WKSZPg-00191-00048102-00048305 manager or the landline number of the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00192-00048306-00048527 branch is available you can just place +_aOs9WKSZPg-00193-00048528-00048868 your request and based on that uh the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00194-00048869-00049115 person can guide you also in case you +_aOs9WKSZPg-00195-00049116-00049289 are unable to come to how to complete +_aOs9WKSZPg-00196-00049290-00049565 your video kyc for educational loan uh +_aOs9WKSZPg-00197-00049566-00049783 there is no limit up to which you can go +_aOs9WKSZPg-00198-00049784-00050195 the important point is that up to 7.5 +_aOs9WKSZPg-00199-00050196-00050393 lakh rupees you don't need to provide an +_aOs9WKSZPg-00200-00050394-00050518 equilateral +_aOs9WKSZPg-00201-00050519-00050980 beyond that bank looks at the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00202-00050981-00051251 usefulness of the course validity of the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00203-00051252-00051454 course the +_aOs9WKSZPg-00204-00051455-00051737 academic performance of the candidate +_aOs9WKSZPg-00205-00051738-00052025 and collateral which we which will go in +_aOs9WKSZPg-00206-00052026-00052264 line with the loan requirement +_aOs9WKSZPg-00207-00052265-00052637 but the idea is that whoever is a bright +_aOs9WKSZPg-00208-00052638-00052942 student they should not miss out on +_aOs9WKSZPg-00209-00052944-00053182 education only because it does not have +_aOs9WKSZPg-00210-00053183-00053429 money we'll be in a position to support +_aOs9WKSZPg-00211-00053429-00053675 you so that you can continue to pursue +_aOs9WKSZPg-00212-00053676-00054026 your dreams in terms of Education +_cYlo8NgdU8-00000-00000000-00000645 yesterday +_cYlo8NgdU8-00001-00000646-00001344 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00002-00001345-00002662 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00003-00002663-00003857 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00004-00003858-00005060 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00005-00005061-00005645 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00006-00005646-00005993 together +_cYlo8NgdU8-00007-00005994-00007456 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00008-00007458-00007629 everybody +_cYlo8NgdU8-00009-00007630-00008845 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00010-00008846-00009537 we want somebody +_cYlo8NgdU8-00011-00009538-00010658 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00012-00010659-00012590 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00013-00012591-00013130 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00014-00013131-00014394 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00015-00014395-00014949 together together +_cYlo8NgdU8-00016-00014950-00017305 [Music] +_cYlo8NgdU8-00017-00017306-00017612 thank you +_fFPqPahZeI-00001-00003600-00004736 so +_fFPqPahZeI-00002-00004737-00004983 [Music] +_fFPqPahZeI-00003-00004984-00005241 so +_fFPqPahZeI-00004-00005242-00006222 [Music] +_fFPqPahZeI-00005-00006223-00006802 foreign +_fFPqPahZeI-00006-00006803-00007608 [Applause] +_fFPqPahZeI-00007-00007609-00009759 [Music] +_fFPqPahZeI-00008-00009760-00010597 [Applause] +_fFPqPahZeI-00009-00010598-00012119 [Music] +_fFPqPahZeI-00010-00012120-00013294 so +_fFPqPahZeI-00011-00013295-00013766 so +_fFPqPahZeI-00012-00013768-00013974 [Applause] +_fFPqPahZeI-00013-00013975-00016127 [Music] +_fFPqPahZeI-00014-00016128-00016834 so +_fFPqPahZeI-00015-00016835-00018086 [Music] +_fFPqPahZeI-00016-00018087-00018295 you +_fPrUYVefhA-00000-00000044-00002030 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00001-00002032-00002855 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00002-00002856-00003224 [__] +_fPrUYVefhA-00003-00003225-00005183 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00004-00005184-00005463 i hope i said that right man but hey man +_fPrUYVefhA-00005-00005464-00005670 i don't know what that means okay yeah i +_fPrUYVefhA-00006-00005671-00005870 got i got a very nice gang member named +_fPrUYVefhA-00007-00005871-00006038 akuna that's why that name sounds very +_fPrUYVefhA-00008-00006039-00006222 familiar and brazil mafia i know i've +_fPrUYVefhA-00009-00006223-00006391 reacted to a couple songs of him before +_fPrUYVefhA-00010-00006392-00006527 if you guys haven't seen those go ahead +_fPrUYVefhA-00011-00006528-00006670 and get sexy with it but right now we're +_fPrUYVefhA-00012-00006672-00007031 gonna be getting past pass +_fPrUYVefhA-00013-00007031-00007334 we're gonna be getting la pushka +_fPrUYVefhA-00014-00007336-00007455 hey man let's check it out let's see +_fPrUYVefhA-00015-00007456-00007606 what everybody's talking about real +_fPrUYVefhA-00016-00007608-00007870 quick are they passing drawings +_fPrUYVefhA-00017-00007872-00007967 yeah +_fPrUYVefhA-00018-00007968-00008170 are those straws +_fPrUYVefhA-00019-00008172-00008959 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00020-00008960-00009318 foreign +_fPrUYVefhA-00021-00009319-00010814 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00022-00010815-00011446 foreign +_fPrUYVefhA-00023-00011447-00012168 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00025-00015559-00016997 what is that +_fPrUYVefhA-00026-00016998-00018498 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00027-00018499-00018855 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00028-00018856-00019186 is +_fPrUYVefhA-00029-00019187-00019943 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00030-00019944-00020419 is +_fPrUYVefhA-00031-00020420-00023094 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00032-00023095-00023387 foreign +_fPrUYVefhA-00034-00027144-00027720 foreign +_fPrUYVefhA-00035-00027722-00029190 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00036-00029191-00029705 foreign +_fPrUYVefhA-00037-00029706-00029958 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00038-00029960-00030095 i really want to know why they doing +_fPrUYVefhA-00039-00030095-00030257 this the whole time +_fPrUYVefhA-00040-00030258-00031423 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00041-00031424-00031574 that was a very entertaining video +_fPrUYVefhA-00042-00031575-00032111 though i can't lie +_fPrUYVefhA-00043-00032112-00032390 to speak we got lighting in the air they +_fPrUYVefhA-00044-00032391-00032623 got [__] little [__] they got [__] +_fPrUYVefhA-00045-00032624-00032727 everywhere +_fPrUYVefhA-00046-00032727-00032895 trying to stare i'm gonna get a piece of +_fPrUYVefhA-00047-00032896-00033087 what they share then another damn come +_fPrUYVefhA-00048-00033088-00033255 in there they be running like they get +_fPrUYVefhA-00049-00033256-00033415 affair um +_fPrUYVefhA-00050-00033416-00033607 what's next i'm about to get me some of +_fPrUYVefhA-00051-00033608-00033817 that +_fPrUYVefhA-00052-00033818-00034547 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00053-00034548-00035079 [Laughter] +_fPrUYVefhA-00054-00035080-00035239 that video was fine over the floor the +_fPrUYVefhA-00055-00035240-00035390 song was for even though i had no idea +_fPrUYVefhA-00056-00035391-00035607 what the song was talking about +_fPrUYVefhA-00057-00035608-00035807 it says +_fPrUYVefhA-00058-00035808-00035887 that +_fPrUYVefhA-00059-00035888-00036079 british mafia haruto's produced their +_fPrUYVefhA-00060-00036080-00036246 high returns has been fired since +_fPrUYVefhA-00061-00036247-00036430 forever every time i hear about her +_fPrUYVefhA-00062-00036431-00036646 returns +_fPrUYVefhA-00063-00036647-00036918 beast you know i'll say that's five man +_fPrUYVefhA-00064-00036919-00037071 tonight telling my opinion man you guys +_fPrUYVefhA-00065-00037072-00037230 gonna come in and tell me some more dope +_fPrUYVefhA-00066-00037231-00037383 ass bridget my favorite song to check +_fPrUYVefhA-00067-00037384-00037599 out i like him he's creative i like +_fPrUYVefhA-00068-00037600-00037815 creative artists that's his talent it's +_fPrUYVefhA-00069-00037816-00037983 not all about just singing to the mic +_fPrUYVefhA-00070-00037984-00038183 you gotta it's the art you gotta put the +_fPrUYVefhA-00071-00038184-00038359 whole package together as one and i like +_fPrUYVefhA-00072-00038360-00038487 that that's what you did right here +_fPrUYVefhA-00073-00038488-00038735 that's just beautiful okay hey you guys +_fPrUYVefhA-00074-00038736-00038959 stay sexy stay great stay healthy i'll +_fPrUYVefhA-00075-00038960-00039095 see you guys next video if you're not +_fPrUYVefhA-00076-00039096-00039295 subscribed you're sleeping on a bicycle +_fPrUYVefhA-00077-00039296-00039518 subscribe so you don't miss the uploads +_fPrUYVefhA-00078-00039519-00039735 okay turn the post notifications on the +_fPrUYVefhA-00079-00039736-00039823 bell +_fPrUYVefhA-00080-00039824-00040046 click that share tight i love you and +_fPrUYVefhA-00081-00040047-00040583 i'll see you in the next video let's get +_fPrUYVefhA-00082-00040584-00040998 oh it's hey +_fPrUYVefhA-00083-00040999-00042095 [Music] +_fPrUYVefhA-00084-00042096-00042287 i think i drink too much +_fPrUYVefhA-00085-00042288-00042863 i think i drink too much so i can't cool +_h4rzIAMMcQ-00000-00003860-00004065 you +_iojX-t5ney-00000-00000006-00000272 we have the police and fire games and +_iojX-t5ney-00001-00000273-00000455 for the first time and I believe seven +_iojX-t5ney-00002-00000456-00000701 years jiu-jitsu is back the unique thing +_iojX-t5ney-00003-00000702-00000935 about jiu-jitsu is that it's not reliant +_iojX-t5ney-00004-00000936-00001136 on strength it's called the gentle art +_iojX-t5ney-00005-00001137-00001340 because you're not forcing things on +_iojX-t5ney-00006-00001341-00001483 your opponent you're reacting to what +_iojX-t5ney-00007-00001484-00001616 they're doing and you're taking the path +_iojX-t5ney-00008-00001617-00001850 of least resistance with jiu-jitsu +_iojX-t5ney-00009-00001851-00002165 there's no reason for me as an officer +_iojX-t5ney-00010-00002166-00002456 to bring a weapon into a fight where the +_iojX-t5ney-00011-00002457-00002695 suspect has no weapons if they're using +_iojX-t5ney-00012-00002696-00003016 hands and feet and teeth there are so +_iojX-t5ney-00013-00003017-00003317 many applications to protect yourself +_iojX-t5ney-00014-00003318-00003511 from that without having to grab +_iojX-t5ney-00015-00003513-00003761 anything on the duty about it truly is a +_iojX-t5ney-00016-00003761-00003992 human chest and it's as much of a mental +_iojX-t5ney-00017-00003993-00004229 game as it is physical we're not just +_iojX-t5ney-00018-00004230-00004385 punching and beating the crap out of +_iojX-t5ney-00019-00004386-00004565 each other we're using leverage we're +_iojX-t5ney-00020-00004566-00004822 using control and we're using true +_iojX-t5ney-00021-00004823-00005054 jiu-jitsu techniques and doing it in a +_iojX-t5ney-00022-00005055-00005245 way that we're not injuring ourselves +_iojX-t5ney-00023-00005246-00005447 which is exactly what we want is the +_iojX-t5ney-00024-00005448-00005593 final result when we're dealing with +_iojX-t5ney-00025-00005594-00005780 suspects on the street +_iojX-t5ney-00026-00005781-00006399 [Applause] +_iojX-t5ney-00027-00006400-00006605 you +_kXjxAWJkPk-00000-00001351-00001535 hey y'all and welcome back to another +_kXjxAWJkPk-00001-00001536-00001823 video today is a speed build and as you +_kXjxAWJkPk-00002-00001823-00002030 can see on your screen right now i'm +_kXjxAWJkPk-00003-00002032-00002247 building the end of the house +_kXjxAWJkPk-00004-00002248-00002423 um for this build i kind of actually +_kXjxAWJkPk-00005-00002424-00002583 decided to make a assembled house for +_kXjxAWJkPk-00006-00002584-00002734 like one or two people +_kXjxAWJkPk-00007-00002735-00002942 um the lot is in new crafts in the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00008-00002943-00003231 neighborhood bridge view um it's cute +_kXjxAWJkPk-00009-00003232-00003406 little lot perfect for a tiny home like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00010-00003407-00003519 this one +_kXjxAWJkPk-00011-00003520-00003670 also i'm pretty sure while building a +_kXjxAWJkPk-00012-00003671-00003863 science in some sort of restaurants +_kXjxAWJkPk-00013-00003864-00004054 photo but uh +_kXjxAWJkPk-00014-00004055-00004247 i don't really know what it was +_kXjxAWJkPk-00015-00004248-00004479 but yeah that's why i wasn't really +_kXjxAWJkPk-00016-00004480-00004686 struggling as far as i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00017-00004687-00004951 normally do the outside of like builds +_kXjxAWJkPk-00018-00004952-00005127 because honestly +_kXjxAWJkPk-00019-00005128-00005359 for some reason landscaping +_kXjxAWJkPk-00020-00005360-00005606 and like making sure all the windows are +_kXjxAWJkPk-00021-00005607-00005870 in my place and putting the door in the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00022-00005871-00006134 right position and adding a deck +_kXjxAWJkPk-00023-00006135-00006414 is like really hard for me and i'm like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00024-00006415-00006606 at it it's not even like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00025-00006608-00006791 landscaping i think is the worst because +_kXjxAWJkPk-00026-00006792-00006998 like a lot of the plants like good +_kXjxAWJkPk-00027-00007000-00007231 landscapers use are in like the debug +_kXjxAWJkPk-00028-00007231-00007351 menu +_kXjxAWJkPk-00029-00007352-00007639 and the debug menu you cannot make +_kXjxAWJkPk-00030-00007640-00007806 search for anything okay so you have to +_kXjxAWJkPk-00031-00007808-00008039 scroll like that like two thousand two +_kXjxAWJkPk-00032-00008040-00008278 thousand items just to find one perfect +_kXjxAWJkPk-00033-00008279-00008574 little flower right very annoying +_kXjxAWJkPk-00034-00008575-00008735 i wish they had some some sort of label +_kXjxAWJkPk-00035-00008736-00008878 for that there's an easier way i'm gonna +_kXjxAWJkPk-00036-00008879-00009191 have to get like one mod where um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00037-00009192-00009406 like you can like make your little um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00038-00009407-00009623 scroll thingy bigger like half your +_kXjxAWJkPk-00039-00009624-00009814 screen and that might help +_kXjxAWJkPk-00040-00009815-00009935 um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00041-00009936-00010159 yeah another thing i struggle with +_kXjxAWJkPk-00042-00010160-00010310 all right another yeah another thing i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00043-00010311-00010463 don't know +_kXjxAWJkPk-00044-00010464-00010646 and uh sadly +_kXjxAWJkPk-00045-00010647-00010871 i didn't have a reference photo for that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00046-00010872-00011103 at least welcome to those that like are +_kXjxAWJkPk-00047-00011104-00011303 like meant for like actual real homes in +_kXjxAWJkPk-00048-00011304-00011535 real life never worked for the sims so i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00049-00011536-00011670 had to +_kXjxAWJkPk-00050-00011671-00011895 wing it and obviously wing it with +_kXjxAWJkPk-00051-00011896-00012183 roofing and the sims uh never works +_kXjxAWJkPk-00052-00012184-00012478 roofing is the worst and i hate it and i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00053-00012479-00012638 wish there was not a roofing feature but +_kXjxAWJkPk-00054-00012639-00012943 the funny thing is guess what +_kXjxAWJkPk-00055-00012944-00013135 the auto rushing feature +_kXjxAWJkPk-00056-00013136-00013335 was a thing it was a thing i'm pretty +_kXjxAWJkPk-00057-00013336-00013494 sure it's a good thing like sims 2 or +_kXjxAWJkPk-00058-00013495-00013783 sims 3 and they got rid of it +_kXjxAWJkPk-00059-00013784-00013958 that is literally like the worst +_kXjxAWJkPk-00060-00013959-00014191 decision i've ever heard ea +_kXjxAWJkPk-00061-00014191-00014375 do you know like oh my god like they +_kXjxAWJkPk-00062-00014376-00014535 make me i will say that yeah it's kind +_kXjxAWJkPk-00063-00014536-00014647 of cool +_kXjxAWJkPk-00064-00014647-00014847 you know i made some bad decisions and +_kXjxAWJkPk-00065-00014847-00015150 it's a little overpriced but seriously +_kXjxAWJkPk-00066-00015151-00015391 number one bad decision of them or of +_kXjxAWJkPk-00067-00015391-00015599 theirs is the taking away the artillery +_kXjxAWJkPk-00068-00015600-00015799 thinking because that would be literally +_kXjxAWJkPk-00069-00015800-00016038 so nice i hate real thing and i think it +_kXjxAWJkPk-00070-00016040-00016183 is absolutely +_kXjxAWJkPk-00071-00016184-00016486 every builder's uh nightmare to roof any +_kXjxAWJkPk-00072-00016487-00016775 of us it's it's the worst anyways +_kXjxAWJkPk-00073-00016776-00016879 uh +_kXjxAWJkPk-00074-00016880-00017086 so much negativity about roofing +_kXjxAWJkPk-00075-00017087-00017183 um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00076-00017184-00017311 let's talk about something positive +_kXjxAWJkPk-00077-00017312-00017583 let's talk about the garage door of this +_kXjxAWJkPk-00078-00017584-00017871 house okay i am so proud of the garage +_kXjxAWJkPk-00079-00017872-00018135 door of this house it is beautiful okay +_kXjxAWJkPk-00080-00018136-00018303 it is absolutely +_kXjxAWJkPk-00081-00018304-00018607 gorgeous i am very proud of myself okay +_kXjxAWJkPk-00082-00018608-00018783 like i had to watch a youtube video yes +_kXjxAWJkPk-00083-00018784-00018943 i will say that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00084-00018944-00019191 but like it's honestly not that hard i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00085-00019192-00019407 was not expecting it to be +_kXjxAWJkPk-00086-00019408-00019558 that easy like i i really didn't know +_kXjxAWJkPk-00087-00019559-00019671 that you just have to +_kXjxAWJkPk-00088-00019672-00019863 put in the basement and then like use +_kXjxAWJkPk-00089-00019864-00020079 some like bb dot move objects cheat to +_kXjxAWJkPk-00090-00020080-00020222 get it upward and i'm like oh my god +_kXjxAWJkPk-00091-00020223-00020383 that sounds so easy why did i never +_kXjxAWJkPk-00092-00020384-00020535 think of that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00093-00020536-00020822 um yeah i i'm very glad i'm actually +_kXjxAWJkPk-00094-00020823-00021022 editing my other builds so to like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00095-00021023-00021239 include garage doors now +_kXjxAWJkPk-00096-00021240-00021583 speaking of editing other builds i was +_kXjxAWJkPk-00097-00021584-00021855 actually kind of planning on like once i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00098-00021856-00022030 finished like each neighborhood of like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00099-00022031-00022175 a world or something +_kXjxAWJkPk-00100-00022176-00022383 i make like a speed build kind of video +_kXjxAWJkPk-00101-00022384-00022630 probably like shorter than 10 minutes it +_kXjxAWJkPk-00102-00022631-00022799 would just be like me fixing mistakes +_kXjxAWJkPk-00103-00022800-00023014 because i did like delete a bunch of +_kXjxAWJkPk-00104-00023015-00023199 secrets like i do like my whole cc +_kXjxAWJkPk-00105-00023200-00023439 folder recently so and i didn't use a +_kXjxAWJkPk-00106-00023440-00023511 ton +_kXjxAWJkPk-00107-00023512-00023799 like not a ton like a definitely +_kXjxAWJkPk-00108-00023800-00023999 a decent amount actually seen like those +_kXjxAWJkPk-00109-00024000-00024167 especially in the speed bug series so i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00110-00024168-00024294 might have to +_kXjxAWJkPk-00111-00024295-00024550 go back fix the missing cc problem and +_kXjxAWJkPk-00112-00024551-00024783 then maybe like fix like some you know +_kXjxAWJkPk-00113-00024784-00024967 kind of few that looks kind of ugly you +_kXjxAWJkPk-00114-00024968-00025175 know kind of mistakes +_kXjxAWJkPk-00115-00025176-00025335 because i feel like at the end of this +_kXjxAWJkPk-00116-00025336-00025535 like i'm i'm probably going to be like a +_kXjxAWJkPk-00117-00025536-00025702 way better building than i was when i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00118-00025704-00025839 started +_kXjxAWJkPk-00119-00025839-00026158 so like the beginning houses and like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00120-00026160-00026351 the ending houses would probably be like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00121-00026352-00026551 super like you know different it'd be +_kXjxAWJkPk-00122-00026552-00026751 like one that sucked and one that didn't +_kXjxAWJkPk-00123-00026752-00026895 suck +_kXjxAWJkPk-00124-00026895-00027046 um and i don't really want that to +_kXjxAWJkPk-00125-00027047-00027302 happen so you know +_kXjxAWJkPk-00126-00027304-00027479 i might start doing that so if you see +_kXjxAWJkPk-00127-00027480-00027599 like a video +_kXjxAWJkPk-00128-00027600-00027774 you know probably like a lot of the next +_kXjxAWJkPk-00129-00027775-00027927 people video but like the one after that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00130-00027927-00028070 might be like a +_kXjxAWJkPk-00131-00028072-00028439 editing mistakes video um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00132-00028439-00028583 yeah i think that is all i wanted to +_kXjxAWJkPk-00133-00028583-00028767 talk about really because i don't have +_kXjxAWJkPk-00134-00028768-00028990 much else to say for like the building +_kXjxAWJkPk-00135-00028991-00029190 part of the thing like well basically +_kXjxAWJkPk-00136-00029191-00029483 the entire video i might do a bit on +_kXjxAWJkPk-00137-00029483-00029751 like the different rooms i'm like oh i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00138-00029752-00029879 really like this part of this room i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00139-00029880-00030046 really like the part so +_kXjxAWJkPk-00140-00030047-00030207 um you'll see me +_kXjxAWJkPk-00141-00030208-00030414 i hear my voice again +_kXjxAWJkPk-00142-00030416-00030551 in like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00143-00030552-00030799 i don't know six minutes so +_kXjxAWJkPk-00144-00030800-00031183 goodbye for now i'll be back for the um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00145-00031183-00033633 the little tour okay goodbye +_kXjxAWJkPk-00146-00033634-00036215 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00147-00036216-00037233 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00148-00037234-00039819 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00149-00039820-00042356 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00150-00042357-00045116 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00151-00045117-00045743 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00152-00045744-00046886 so +_kXjxAWJkPk-00153-00046887-00048282 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00154-00048283-00049001 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00156-00053612-00055683 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00157-00055684-00056982 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00158-00056983-00058182 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00159-00058183-00058336 so +_kXjxAWJkPk-00160-00058337-00059763 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00161-00059764-00062634 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00162-00062635-00064315 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00163-00064316-00064901 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00164-00064902-00066328 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00165-00066329-00068055 [Music] +_kXjxAWJkPk-00166-00068056-00068231 hey guys uh +_kXjxAWJkPk-00167-00068232-00068455 it's time for the room tour segment of +_kXjxAWJkPk-00168-00068456-00068655 the speed build +_kXjxAWJkPk-00169-00068656-00068750 um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00170-00068751-00068903 this is the first +_kXjxAWJkPk-00171-00068904-00069063 kind of like room i guess it's kind of +_kXjxAWJkPk-00172-00069064-00069223 like the entry hallway +_kXjxAWJkPk-00173-00069224-00069399 um honestly +_kXjxAWJkPk-00174-00069400-00069615 very boring i have a few patriots that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00175-00069616-00069743 could could +_kXjxAWJkPk-00176-00069744-00069935 critiques about this +_kXjxAWJkPk-00177-00069936-00070182 uh room close +_kXjxAWJkPk-00178-00070183-00070319 um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00179-00070320-00070526 honestly it doesn't have any coat rack +_kXjxAWJkPk-00180-00070527-00070743 it's not painting it's not anywhere like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00181-00070744-00070975 it is the most basic room you can really +_kXjxAWJkPk-00182-00070976-00071111 only see like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00183-00071112-00071255 the living and dining room right now +_kXjxAWJkPk-00184-00071256-00071479 it's like oh but there's stuff there +_kXjxAWJkPk-00185-00071480-00071735 the actual like entryway hallway is like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00186-00071736-00072031 the two doors of wall things +_kXjxAWJkPk-00187-00072032-00072287 so not my favorite +_kXjxAWJkPk-00188-00072288-00072431 kind of sucks +_kXjxAWJkPk-00189-00072432-00072703 um and okay the next room +_kXjxAWJkPk-00190-00072704-00072919 is the bathroom honestly +_kXjxAWJkPk-00191-00072920-00073038 um i don't really know what i was doing +_kXjxAWJkPk-00192-00073039-00073279 when i decided to put a +_kXjxAWJkPk-00193-00073280-00073487 bunch of lights on the wall it's like a +_kXjxAWJkPk-00194-00073488-00073711 light wall this is the only light source +_kXjxAWJkPk-00195-00073712-00073967 in the room so i don't really know how +_kXjxAWJkPk-00196-00073968-00074159 taking the shower would work in this +_kXjxAWJkPk-00197-00074160-00074311 room because i feel like it'd be a bit +_kXjxAWJkPk-00198-00074312-00074462 dark even with the light wall because +_kXjxAWJkPk-00199-00074463-00074687 there's like light above +_kXjxAWJkPk-00200-00074688-00074967 so it only like top like one-fifth of +_kXjxAWJkPk-00201-00074968-00075182 the light wall would actually like light +_kXjxAWJkPk-00202-00075183-00075382 up the um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00203-00075383-00075550 the shower i don't know how that works +_kXjxAWJkPk-00204-00075551-00075775 anyways we're not gonna +_kXjxAWJkPk-00205-00075776-00075911 showering +_kXjxAWJkPk-00206-00075912-00076071 but you know it's not that bad is that i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00207-00076072-00076255 definitely pretty much ever into it so i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00208-00076256-00076367 didn't really know what to do i think +_kXjxAWJkPk-00209-00076368-00076535 this is one like the last ones i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00210-00076536-00076662 finished because i just was like i don't +_kXjxAWJkPk-00211-00076663-00076862 really know what to do this is +_kXjxAWJkPk-00212-00076863-00077199 just for light wall make it interesting +_kXjxAWJkPk-00213-00077200-00077575 um okay the next room is +_kXjxAWJkPk-00214-00077576-00077823 the living dining room i love this um i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00215-00077824-00078006 don't really know okay the one thing i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00216-00078007-00078191 don't like is +_kXjxAWJkPk-00217-00078192-00078335 the um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00218-00078336-00078494 the grass wall i don't know why i did +_kXjxAWJkPk-00219-00078495-00078671 that it was i wish okay what i wish i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00220-00078672-00078894 could have done is i could have split +_kXjxAWJkPk-00221-00078895-00079023 the top one +_kXjxAWJkPk-00222-00079024-00079223 so the white wood is on the top and then +_kXjxAWJkPk-00223-00079224-00079519 like the grass was connected still but +_kXjxAWJkPk-00224-00079520-00079775 you can't really do that so i yeah i'm +_kXjxAWJkPk-00225-00079776-00080087 not gonna do that um and then the the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00226-00080088-00080415 blinds like the curtains are really ugly +_kXjxAWJkPk-00227-00080416-00080591 they're the only curtains i could really +_kXjxAWJkPk-00228-00080592-00080871 find that like looked like semi good +_kXjxAWJkPk-00229-00080872-00081126 for a three space like window so i just +_kXjxAWJkPk-00230-00081127-00081367 kind of like stick with it +_kXjxAWJkPk-00231-00081368-00081535 and then yeah okay everything was just +_kXjxAWJkPk-00232-00081536-00081711 like basic okay like this one's like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00233-00081712-00081911 pretty basic i'm pretty sure +_kXjxAWJkPk-00234-00081912-00082094 okay so it really just has like the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00235-00082095-00082287 chimney and +_kXjxAWJkPk-00236-00082288-00082471 the fireplace for like the living room +_kXjxAWJkPk-00237-00082472-00082671 and there's really nothing on the thing +_kXjxAWJkPk-00238-00082672-00082831 so like if i were ready to really like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00239-00082832-00083047 touch up the house more i'd add a few +_kXjxAWJkPk-00240-00083048-00083175 more things you know like little +_kXjxAWJkPk-00241-00083176-00083423 trinkets and stuff +_kXjxAWJkPk-00242-00083424-00083671 next up is the kitchen i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00243-00083672-00083926 love this kitchen it's beautiful it's i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00244-00083927-00084103 love the blue thing it's going through +_kXjxAWJkPk-00245-00084104-00084350 the house it's just gorgeous +_kXjxAWJkPk-00246-00084351-00084599 like i just i love the parenthood packs +_kXjxAWJkPk-00247-00084600-00084806 kitchen it's just so great and i love +_kXjxAWJkPk-00248-00084807-00085031 the little jar +_kXjxAWJkPk-00249-00085032-00085262 with light hangings and oh my god those +_kXjxAWJkPk-00250-00085263-00085471 are beautiful i love to use them in like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00251-00085472-00085655 every single room +_kXjxAWJkPk-00252-00085656-00085926 um so i use that in the kitchen it's +_kXjxAWJkPk-00253-00085927-00086062 kind of like a it's kind of a small +_kXjxAWJkPk-00254-00086063-00086175 kitchen +_kXjxAWJkPk-00255-00086176-00086391 like it's very open but it's very tiny +_kXjxAWJkPk-00256-00086392-00086623 with counter space like on the wall +_kXjxAWJkPk-00257-00086624-00086847 there's only really one like counter you +_kXjxAWJkPk-00258-00086848-00087071 could use to like set stuff down that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00259-00087072-00087255 isn't the um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00260-00087256-00087518 island but like that's why i needed to +_kXjxAWJkPk-00261-00087519-00087711 add this because you literally would +_kXjxAWJkPk-00262-00087712-00087967 never coconut if you did not have the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00263-00087968-00088103 island +_kXjxAWJkPk-00264-00088104-00088271 um and then for the coffee bar this is +_kXjxAWJkPk-00265-00088272-00088471 actually my favorite part of the whole +_kXjxAWJkPk-00266-00088472-00088647 house like it's so gorgeous i feel like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00267-00088648-00088823 it'd be even better if you added like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00268-00088824-00088982 some paintings +_kXjxAWJkPk-00269-00088983-00089118 and or not some things like some +_kXjxAWJkPk-00270-00089119-00089326 pictures and a little frame +_kXjxAWJkPk-00271-00089327-00089479 but i just love this because like it has +_kXjxAWJkPk-00272-00089480-00089655 everything it's just so cute it's a +_kXjxAWJkPk-00273-00089656-00089775 little corner i don't really know what +_kXjxAWJkPk-00274-00089776-00089999 to put there so this year and it turned +_kXjxAWJkPk-00275-00090000-00090350 out to be my favorite thing i was built +_kXjxAWJkPk-00276-00090351-00090718 okay the next thing is the master kind +_kXjxAWJkPk-00277-00090719-00090894 of bedroom +_kXjxAWJkPk-00278-00090895-00091159 or the only bedroom actually um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00279-00091160-00091238 i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00280-00091239-00091391 don't know what's happening here also +_kXjxAWJkPk-00281-00091392-00091559 first of all i don't mind the little +_kXjxAWJkPk-00282-00091560-00091791 flowers sticking to the wall um that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00283-00091792-00091926 isn't +_kXjxAWJkPk-00284-00091927-00092167 bad or bad for the house or anything +_kXjxAWJkPk-00285-00092168-00092343 don't worry about that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00286-00092344-00092694 um yeah i really like this room um i did +_kXjxAWJkPk-00287-00092695-00092847 say this was meant for like one or two +_kXjxAWJkPk-00288-00092848-00092991 people but there's really only one +_kXjxAWJkPk-00289-00092992-00093159 version of them here +_kXjxAWJkPk-00290-00093160-00093279 like you'd have to have someone sleep on +_kXjxAWJkPk-00291-00093280-00093559 this weird chair thingy or couch +_kXjxAWJkPk-00292-00093560-00093679 or something +_kXjxAWJkPk-00293-00093680-00093831 there wasn't really a way to make this +_kXjxAWJkPk-00294-00093832-00094182 room work like well for any like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00295-00094183-00094343 bedroom situation so i kind of just +_kXjxAWJkPk-00296-00094344-00094471 thought of it like oh what if it was +_kXjxAWJkPk-00297-00094472-00094559 like a +_kXjxAWJkPk-00298-00094560-00094767 the dorm room like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00299-00094768-00094967 like what if just some random college +_kXjxAWJkPk-00300-00094968-00095103 student +_kXjxAWJkPk-00301-00095104-00095231 or something +_kXjxAWJkPk-00302-00095232-00095447 i just lived +_kXjxAWJkPk-00303-00095448-00095662 in this house but also like it felt +_kXjxAWJkPk-00304-00095663-00095911 really fancy for our college students i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00305-00095912-00096118 don't really know it's also like not in +_kXjxAWJkPk-00306-00096119-00096367 the college like um worlds i don't +_kXjxAWJkPk-00307-00096368-00096503 really know if that would make sense or +_kXjxAWJkPk-00308-00096504-00096582 not +_kXjxAWJkPk-00309-00096583-00096767 i don't know what college the student is +_kXjxAWJkPk-00310-00096768-00096991 going to but yeah i'm i don't really +_kXjxAWJkPk-00311-00096992-00097215 like this one that much +_kXjxAWJkPk-00312-00097216-00097462 the bar um i also don't like that much +_kXjxAWJkPk-00313-00097463-00097591 because it's kind of just a cop out it +_kXjxAWJkPk-00314-00097592-00097791 was kind of just like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00315-00097792-00097903 i don't know what to put here so i'm +_kXjxAWJkPk-00316-00097904-00098071 just going to put a bar in +_kXjxAWJkPk-00317-00098072-00098238 some wall stuff it's also really basic +_kXjxAWJkPk-00318-00098239-00098374 like the color scheme of this little +_kXjxAWJkPk-00319-00098375-00098679 area is so white and black and i hate it +_kXjxAWJkPk-00320-00098680-00098879 it's kind of gross that's like oh it's +_kXjxAWJkPk-00321-00098880-00099071 so basic +_kXjxAWJkPk-00322-00099072-00099279 um the next thing is the garage with the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00323-00099280-00099767 lovely garage door i don't know here +_kXjxAWJkPk-00324-00099768-00099879 and like i don't know what it is but +_kXjxAWJkPk-00325-00099880-00099999 it's like the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00326-00100000-00100271 little the insect box where you can like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00327-00100272-00100391 collect +_kXjxAWJkPk-00328-00100392-00100599 things and you can turn it into like gas +_kXjxAWJkPk-00329-00100600-00100735 i think +_kXjxAWJkPk-00330-00100736-00100911 and there's also the car and then like a +_kXjxAWJkPk-00331-00100912-00101103 little um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00332-00101104-00101382 upward or vertical like garden thing +_kXjxAWJkPk-00333-00101383-00101543 which i thought was pretty cool i what i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00334-00101544-00101750 do not like about this room +_kXjxAWJkPk-00335-00101751-00102126 is that um the since the um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00336-00102127-00102279 the garage door kind of thing is like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00337-00102280-00102510 kind of like um supposed to be a glitch +_kXjxAWJkPk-00338-00102511-00102694 it always has weird lighting of the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00339-00102695-00102854 outside area +_kXjxAWJkPk-00340-00102855-00103071 not the inside lighting so it always +_kXjxAWJkPk-00341-00103072-00103199 looks weird +_kXjxAWJkPk-00342-00103200-00103351 same thing with the chimney in the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00343-00103352-00103471 living room i hate when you put +_kXjxAWJkPk-00344-00103472-00103702 something that's halfway outside +_kXjxAWJkPk-00345-00103703-00103927 and then it takes on the lighting of the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00346-00103928-00104078 outside +_kXjxAWJkPk-00347-00104079-00104158 so i think that's something like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00348-00104159-00104406 something i can fix and if any ea person +_kXjxAWJkPk-00349-00104407-00104599 is watching this right now please fix +_kXjxAWJkPk-00350-00104600-00104823 that so like when something's going both +_kXjxAWJkPk-00351-00104824-00105007 like the ends on the outside the inside +_kXjxAWJkPk-00352-00105008-00105247 parts were lit by like the inside lights +_kXjxAWJkPk-00353-00105248-00105519 and then the outside is lit by the sun +_kXjxAWJkPk-00354-00105520-00105702 or like the moon or whatever +_kXjxAWJkPk-00355-00105703-00105927 um that would be really nice +_kXjxAWJkPk-00356-00105928-00106231 yeah and then um it's just like the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00357-00106232-00106454 the picture of the like the actual +_kXjxAWJkPk-00358-00106455-00106654 what's a thumbnail technically picture +_kXjxAWJkPk-00359-00106655-00106878 but yeah this is the um this is the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00360-00106879-00107119 outside side of the house uh it took me +_kXjxAWJkPk-00361-00107120-00107271 a bit to actually take this photo just +_kXjxAWJkPk-00362-00107272-00107486 because like i don't want to build logs +_kXjxAWJkPk-00363-00107488-00107631 every time i think like a building +_kXjxAWJkPk-00364-00107632-00107766 though i have to like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00365-00107767-00108047 edit the weird build lot lines out and +_kXjxAWJkPk-00366-00108048-00108231 that gets really annoying so i'd be like +_kXjxAWJkPk-00367-00108232-00108383 get a sand and it was like in the middle +_kXjxAWJkPk-00368-00108383-00108566 of winter so i just get i had to wait +_kXjxAWJkPk-00369-00108567-00108839 until spring and i'd wait like everyone +_kXjxAWJkPk-00370-00108840-00109023 was gone i'd like to take control of +_kXjxAWJkPk-00371-00109024-00109175 those things in the air yesterday would +_kXjxAWJkPk-00372-00109176-00109310 walk past +_kXjxAWJkPk-00373-00109311-00109478 that's why you see like random people in +_kXjxAWJkPk-00374-00109479-00109631 like the background or some of the room +_kXjxAWJkPk-00375-00109632-00109807 photos um but yeah this is what the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00376-00109808-00110039 house looks like on the outside +_kXjxAWJkPk-00377-00110040-00110158 i do +_kXjxAWJkPk-00378-00110159-00110295 well i will say +_kXjxAWJkPk-00379-00110296-00110575 that i i just realized that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00380-00110576-00110863 i forgot to like add the picture of the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00381-00110864-00111078 backyard you know you'll see that in the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00382-00111079-00111254 um actual speed build +_kXjxAWJkPk-00383-00111255-00111399 and you've probably seen that in the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00384-00111400-00111623 actual spring build +_kXjxAWJkPk-00385-00111624-00111799 but yeah you know i don't really i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00386-00111800-00111975 really hate the landscaping honest i do +_kXjxAWJkPk-00387-00111976-00112183 think it's a little messy but it +_kXjxAWJkPk-00388-00112183-00112566 definitely isn't that bad i do like um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00389-00112567-00112743 i do like the little deck thing and i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00390-00112744-00112975 wish i would have put a good chair +_kXjxAWJkPk-00391-00112976-00113166 like a flower box or something and i +_kXjxAWJkPk-00392-00113167-00113510 also do like the incorporation of the um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00393-00113511-00113695 the mailbox into the flowers i thought +_kXjxAWJkPk-00394-00113696-00113943 that was cute and then +_kXjxAWJkPk-00395-00113944-00114086 i do kind of hate the roof how it has +_kXjxAWJkPk-00396-00114088-00114278 like a weird extra part that i had to +_kXjxAWJkPk-00397-00114279-00114454 add i hated that i had to do that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00398-00114455-00114654 because i kind of ruined it but you know +_kXjxAWJkPk-00399-00114655-00114831 it's not too bad you know also i also +_kXjxAWJkPk-00400-00114832-00115015 wish i would have like blended in at the +_kXjxAWJkPk-00401-00115016-00115343 brick a bit more for the driveway but +_kXjxAWJkPk-00402-00115344-00115502 honestly that's a bit hard i don't know +_kXjxAWJkPk-00403-00115503-00115734 what to do with that +_kXjxAWJkPk-00404-00115735-00116007 yeah but that's it um +_kXjxAWJkPk-00405-00116008-00116199 thank you so much for watching i hope +_kXjxAWJkPk-00406-00116200-00116478 you like the house and have a great day +_kXjxAWJkPk-00407-00116479-00116590 and +_kXjxAWJkPk-00408-00116591-00116891 bye +_lVKjClWfo0-00000-00000306-00000605 this is the continuation of our previous +_lVKjClWfo0-00001-00000606-00000713 video +_lVKjClWfo0-00002-00000714-00001145 on planes where we left off last time we +_lVKjClWfo0-00003-00001146-00001397 were looking at an example where we knew +_lVKjClWfo0-00004-00001398-00001697 that if we have two non-parallel planes +_lVKjClWfo0-00005-00001698-00001997 that they will intersect in a line and +_lVKjClWfo0-00006-00001998-00002183 we were trying to find the vector +_lVKjClWfo0-00007-00002184-00002537 equation or a vector equation of the +_lVKjClWfo0-00008-00002538-00002765 line of intersection +_lVKjClWfo0-00009-00002766-00002987 so let's do a quick review how did we +_lVKjClWfo0-00010-00002988-00003256 start we assume that it crossed the X Y +_lVKjClWfo0-00011-00003257-00003683 plane we set Z equal to zero when Z +_lVKjClWfo0-00012-00003684-00004025 equals to zero in our equations for the +_lVKjClWfo0-00013-00004026-00004235 plane that will give us a system of +_lVKjClWfo0-00014-00004236-00004756 equations then which have no Z value at +_lVKjClWfo0-00015-00004757-00005093 just X and Y we could solve that and we +_lVKjClWfo0-00016-00005094-00005470 found a point on both planes which must +_lVKjClWfo0-00017-00005471-00005825 be a point on the line of intersection +_lVKjClWfo0-00018-00005826-00006179 we made a note that even if it didn't +_lVKjClWfo0-00019-00006180-00006413 intersect the X Y plane we have a +_lVKjClWfo0-00020-00006414-00006610 workaround we could make an assumption +_lVKjClWfo0-00021-00006611-00007019 that it intersects the XZ plane and set +_lVKjClWfo0-00022-00007020-00007296 y equal to zero or assume that it +_lVKjClWfo0-00023-00007297-00007648 intersects the y z plane and set x equal +_lVKjClWfo0-00024-00007650-00008141 to zero and we will find a point on both +_lVKjClWfo0-00025-00008142-00008477 lines +_lVKjClWfo0-00026-00008478-00008869 and then we said well we can write our +_lVKjClWfo0-00027-00008870-00009191 vector equation of a line as our initial +_lVKjClWfo0-00028-00009192-00009503 Vector plus T times the direction Vector +_lVKjClWfo0-00029-00009504-00009737 which we don't know so we're going to +_lVKjClWfo0-00030-00009738-00010151 assume it has components a b and c +_lVKjClWfo0-00031-00010152-00010373 and we could look at the parametric +_lVKjClWfo0-00032-00010374-00010606 equations and say that well we don't +_lVKjClWfo0-00033-00010607-00011009 need to have t is just a +_lVKjClWfo0-00034-00011010-00011351 a variable we could choose a non-zero +_lVKjClWfo0-00035-00011352-00011699 value for T like T equals one +_lVKjClWfo0-00036-00011700-00011969 and then it's actually even easier if I +_lVKjClWfo0-00037-00011970-00012364 go ahead and take those values for X Y +_lVKjClWfo0-00038-00012365-00012742 and Z so the Expressions put them into +_lVKjClWfo0-00039-00012743-00013079 the first equation +_lVKjClWfo0-00040-00013080-00013385 and remove the parentheses collect like +_lVKjClWfo0-00041-00013386-00013577 terms +_lVKjClWfo0-00042-00013578-00013949 I'm going to find that I have a 40 minus +_lVKjClWfo0-00043-00013950-00014188 36 +_lVKjClWfo0-00044-00014190-00014494 on the left hand side which equals 4 and +_lVKjClWfo0-00045-00014495-00014783 I also have 4 on the right hand side +_lVKjClWfo0-00046-00014784-00015107 so the constants equal to each other and +_lVKjClWfo0-00047-00015108-00015394 I can subtract 4 from each side and get +_lVKjClWfo0-00048-00015395-00015808 0 on the right hand side +_lVKjClWfo0-00049-00015809-00016115 and no constants of course on the left +_lVKjClWfo0-00050-00016116-00016247 hand side +_lVKjClWfo0-00051-00016247-00016457 and if we think about it that should +_lVKjClWfo0-00052-00016458-00016721 make perfect sense because where did +_lVKjClWfo0-00053-00016722-00017008 these numbers you know 20 36 and then +_lVKjClWfo0-00054-00017009-00017315 there's a 0 here that we didn't write it +_lVKjClWfo0-00055-00017316-00017694 came from the fact that we had a point +_lVKjClWfo0-00056-00017695-00018130 20360 which is on the plane it's on both +_lVKjClWfo0-00057-00018131-00018383 planes and so +_lVKjClWfo0-00058-00018384-00018689 it must satisfy +_lVKjClWfo0-00059-00018690-00018953 the equation of +_lVKjClWfo0-00060-00018954-00019199 the first plane and also the equation of +_lVKjClWfo0-00061-00019200-00019414 the second plane in other words 2 times +_lVKjClWfo0-00062-00019415-00019507 20 +_lVKjClWfo0-00063-00019508-00020158 minus 36 plus 3 times 0 must equal four +_lVKjClWfo0-00064-00020159-00020599 because that point is a point on +_lVKjClWfo0-00065-00020600-00020897 the plane so it must satisfy the +_lVKjClWfo0-00066-00020898-00021155 equation of the plane +_lVKjClWfo0-00067-00021156-00021461 so that point will also satisfy the +_lVKjClWfo0-00068-00021462-00021736 equation of the second plane so I know +_lVKjClWfo0-00069-00021737-00021989 that I don't have to worry about the 20 +_lVKjClWfo0-00070-00021990-00022289 and the 36 I know that I'm just going to +_lVKjClWfo0-00071-00022290-00022589 get a negative 3 +_lVKjClWfo0-00072-00022590-00022793 a I'm sorry I'm putting a in the place +_lVKjClWfo0-00073-00022794-00023194 of x b in the place of Y and C in the +_lVKjClWfo0-00074-00023195-00023435 place of Z and making the right hand +_lVKjClWfo0-00075-00023436-00023977 side 0. +_lVKjClWfo0-00076-00023978-00024358 a b and see +_lVKjClWfo0-00077-00024359-00024593 now I only have two equations but I have +_lVKjClWfo0-00078-00024594-00024869 three unknowns so there's really going +_lVKjClWfo0-00079-00024870-00025139 to be infinitely many solutions but that +_lVKjClWfo0-00080-00025140-00025300 makes sense because we're trying to find +_lVKjClWfo0-00081-00025301-00025637 the a direction Vector for the line well +_lVKjClWfo0-00082-00025638-00025840 there's infinitely many possible +_lVKjClWfo0-00083-00025841-00026040 Direction vectors +_lVKjClWfo0-00084-00026041-00026327 so it makes sense that our system of +_lVKjClWfo0-00085-00026327-00026555 equations should have an infinite number +_lVKjClWfo0-00086-00026556-00026920 of solutions so to find a solution and +_lVKjClWfo0-00087-00026922-00027083 that's all we need we just need one +_lVKjClWfo0-00088-00027083-00027455 solution we're going to assume that we +_lVKjClWfo0-00089-00027456-00027935 can set c equal to one and resolve the +_lVKjClWfo0-00090-00027936-00028258 resulting two by two system and maybe +_lVKjClWfo0-00091-00028260-00028435 it's worthwhile too +_lVKjClWfo0-00092-00028436-00028895 uh explain what I'm talking about uh why +_lVKjClWfo0-00093-00028895-00029285 can I make that assumption well +_lVKjClWfo0-00094-00029286-00030017 if I have a direction vector +_lVKjClWfo0-00095-00030018-00030455 so really what I'm assuming is C is not +_lVKjClWfo0-00096-00030456-00030755 equal to zero because if C is not equal +_lVKjClWfo0-00097-00030756-00031037 to zero I could get another Direction +_lVKjClWfo0-00098-00031038-00031223 vector +_lVKjClWfo0-00099-00031224-00031552 and let me just call this +_lVKjClWfo0-00100-00031554-00031924 V Prime is another Direction vector is +_lVKjClWfo0-00101-00031925-00032117 going to be +_lVKjClWfo0-00102-00032118-00032405 take the direction V Direction vector v +_lVKjClWfo0-00103-00032406-00032717 and multiply it by 1 over C +_lVKjClWfo0-00104-00032718-00033071 which would be a over C +_lVKjClWfo0-00105-00033072-00033443 B over c one +_lVKjClWfo0-00106-00033444-00033796 so as long as the third component of my +_lVKjClWfo0-00107-00033797-00034168 direction Vector is non-zero I could +_lVKjClWfo0-00108-00034169-00034349 just go ahead and assume that the +_lVKjClWfo0-00109-00034350-00034727 component is one and if that turns out +_lVKjClWfo0-00110-00034728-00035111 to be a false assumption then just like +_lVKjClWfo0-00111-00035112-00035405 we saw before our two by two system +_lVKjClWfo0-00112-00035406-00035687 equations will have no solution but we +_lVKjClWfo0-00113-00035688-00036059 could assume that maybe b equals one +_lVKjClWfo0-00114-00036060-00036318 let's look at this first in this case +_lVKjClWfo0-00115-00036319-00036845 setting C equals to one is no problem we +_lVKjClWfo0-00116-00036846-00037139 get a solution to this equation or +_lVKjClWfo0-00117-00037140-00037367 system of equations and where the a +_lVKjClWfo0-00118-00037368-00037601 equals negative five and b equals +_lVKjClWfo0-00119-00037602-00037865 negative seven and so our Direction +_lVKjClWfo0-00120-00037866-00038189 Vector can be taken as negative five +_lVKjClWfo0-00121-00038190-00038596 negative seven and one +_lVKjClWfo0-00122-00038597-00039035 so again we set c equal to one +_lVKjClWfo0-00123-00039036-00039221 um it's possible that that's a bad +_lVKjClWfo0-00124-00039222-00039502 assumption that we can't do that if we +_lVKjClWfo0-00125-00039503-00039833 got a new solution to that system of +_lVKjClWfo0-00126-00039834-00040133 equation so what we would do we would +_lVKjClWfo0-00127-00040134-00040355 try setting b equals to one and to see +_lVKjClWfo0-00128-00040356-00040679 if we get a solution and if that still +_lVKjClWfo0-00129-00040680-00040943 doesn't work then we should be able to +_lVKjClWfo0-00130-00040944-00041309 set a equals to 1 and solve the new 2x2 +_lVKjClWfo0-00131-00041310-00041530 system +_lVKjClWfo0-00132-00041531-00041723 at least one of those has to have a +_lVKjClWfo0-00133-00041724-00041968 solution because this is equivalent +_lVKjClWfo0-00134-00041969-00042373 setting c equal to one is equivalent to +_lVKjClWfo0-00135-00042374-00042809 assuming C does not equal zero setting b +_lVKjClWfo0-00136-00042810-00043043 equal to one is equivalent to saying B +_lVKjClWfo0-00137-00043044-00043355 does not equal to zero and setting a +_lVKjClWfo0-00138-00043356-00043667 equal to one is equivalent to saying a +_lVKjClWfo0-00139-00043668-00043961 cannot equal zero so not all of these +_lVKjClWfo0-00140-00043962-00044243 three could be zero so at least one of +_lVKjClWfo0-00141-00044244-00044573 them has to be non-zero +_lVKjClWfo0-00142-00044574-00044795 so one of those two by two systems will +_lVKjClWfo0-00143-00044796-00045149 have a unique solution +_lVKjClWfo0-00144-00045150-00045358 all right so we now have a vector +_lVKjClWfo0-00145-00045359-00045923 equation for the line of intersection +_lVKjClWfo0-00146-00045924-00046145 so I hope you found these two videos on +_lVKjClWfo0-00147-00046146-00046505 planes useful and we'll be referring to +_lVKjClWfo0-00148-00046506-00046844 planes throughout the course +_n0U_DCTV7I-00000-00000000-00001162 I am disappointed in other white people +_n0U_DCTV7I-00001-00001163-00001547 because like we were the main people who +_n0U_DCTV7I-00002-00001548-00001913 voted for him embarrassing I feel like +_n0U_DCTV7I-00003-00001914-00002310 the Simpsons knew what was going on like +_n0U_DCTV7I-00004-00002311-00002708 16 years ago but that almost half the +_n0U_DCTV7I-00005-00002709-00002938 country was a favor of a man who is +_n0U_DCTV7I-00006-00002939-00003242 extremely racist and sexist nobody's +_n0U_DCTV7I-00007-00003243-00003374 boats would have mattered anyway because +_n0U_DCTV7I-00008-00003375-00003578 electoral college is picking the +_n0U_DCTV7I-00009-00003579-00003740 candidate he beat the system I've +_n0U_DCTV7I-00010-00003740-00004184 actually been to a protest like against +_n0U_DCTV7I-00011-00004185-00004340 Trump people felt that they were +_n0U_DCTV7I-00012-00004341-00004556 targeted because of their skin color and +_n0U_DCTV7I-00013-00004557-00004781 because of who they are whether they +_n0U_DCTV7I-00014-00004782-00005075 were gay bisexual that teacher said the +_n0U_DCTV7I-00015-00005076-00005206 day after the election kids came in +_n0U_DCTV7I-00016-00005207-00005465 sobbing to school worried about their +_n0U_DCTV7I-00017-00005466-00005638 future weren't they have to go back home +_n0U_DCTV7I-00018-00005639-00005918 I've been hearing a bunch of news about +_n0U_DCTV7I-00019-00005919-00006506 like um how he is so unprepared for +_n0U_DCTV7I-00020-00006506-00007003 office I'm not as free as I am myself as +_n0U_DCTV7I-00021-00007004-00007210 I had people that I know being like a +_n0U_DCTV7I-00022-00007211-00007549 black person I'm nervous that racism +_n0U_DCTV7I-00023-00007550-00007784 will increase I'm scared what's gonna +_n0U_DCTV7I-00024-00007784-00007973 happen to us as a nation since I'm by +_n0U_DCTV7I-00025-00007973-00008653 and like I feel scared for myself cuz uh +_n0U_DCTV7I-00026-00008654-00009173 Trump pretty homophobic we create the +_n0U_DCTV7I-00027-00009174-00009499 reality that we live in so I do not try +_n0U_DCTV7I-00028-00009500-00010099 to live based on fear I have fears for +_n0U_DCTV7I-00029-00010100-00010334 like friends of mine who are trans and +_n0U_DCTV7I-00030-00010335-00010835 like I have neighbors who are Mexican +_n0U_DCTV7I-00031-00010836-00011183 immigrants you know generally not people +_n0U_DCTV7I-00032-00011184-00011581 who Trump particularly likes I don't +_n0U_DCTV7I-00033-00011582-00011720 think Donald Trump is going to do +_n0U_DCTV7I-00034-00011721-00011793 anything +_n0U_DCTV7I-00035-00011794-00012120 honest so I want to believe that he +_n0U_DCTV7I-00036-00012121-00012396 might do something great with his power +_n0U_DCTV7I-00037-00012397-00012636 and hopefully he does economies +_n0U_DCTV7I-00038-00012637-00012900 definitely not going to do so hot with +_n0U_DCTV7I-00039-00012901-00013155 Wars trade boards China they become +_n0U_DCTV7I-00040-00013156-00013394 aggressive literally and we get into +_n0U_DCTV7I-00041-00013396-00013613 another war another pointless war that +_n0U_DCTV7I-00042-00013615-00013857 could have avoided the Phyllis come for +_n0U_DCTV7I-00043-00013858-00014219 all his promises and like actually does +_n0U_DCTV7I-00044-00014221-00014522 like built the wall and like before all +_n0U_DCTV7I-00045-00014524-00014736 the Muslim immigrants okay the worst +_n0U_DCTV7I-00046-00014737-00014969 possible thing that Donald Trump can do +_n0U_DCTV7I-00047-00014971-00015341 as a president is not bring the country +_n0U_DCTV7I-00048-00015343-00015672 together because we're so divided well +_n0U_DCTV7I-00049-00015672-00015990 the worst case scenario or there's gonna +_n0U_DCTV7I-00050-00015991-00016304 be a lot a lot more racism towards +_n0U_DCTV7I-00051-00016305-00016590 different types of social group I mean +_n0U_DCTV7I-00052-00016591-00016914 well ethnicities and there's also going +_n0U_DCTV7I-00053-00016915-00017205 to be racism against women religions +_n0U_DCTV7I-00054-00017206-00017448 like Muslims but I don't know i'm pretty +_n0U_DCTV7I-00055-00017449-00017586 sure it's not called racism cuz that's +_n0U_DCTV7I-00056-00017587-00017778 against the race I don't know what it's +_n0U_DCTV7I-00057-00017779-00017967 called when you're like being hate +_n0U_DCTV7I-00058-00017968-00018117 crimes there's gonna be a lot of hate +_n0U_DCTV7I-00059-00018118-00018660 crimes to to gay people and bad things +_n0U_DCTV7I-00060-00018661-00018984 done to gay people and on Muslims and +_n0U_DCTV7I-00061-00018985-00019097 other types of things because that's +_n0U_DCTV7I-00062-00019098-00019347 what Donald Trump mostly spoke about to +_n0U_DCTV7I-00063-00019348-00019536 I think the best case scenario is that +_n0U_DCTV7I-00064-00019537-00019739 Donald Trump goes back on what he says +_n0U_DCTV7I-00065-00019740-00020010 he starts to sing to more opposition I +_n0U_DCTV7I-00066-00020011-00020193 haven't really researched the candidates +_n0U_DCTV7I-00067-00020194-00020447 and I did not plan on voting because of +_n0U_DCTV7I-00068-00020448-00020694 the electoral college but I'm still sort +_n0U_DCTV7I-00069-00020695-00020892 of curious as to how Bernie Sanders was +_n0U_DCTV7I-00070-00020893-00021204 like knocked off the list I'm curious as +_n0U_DCTV7I-00071-00021205-00021567 to these third parties that we could +_n0U_DCTV7I-00072-00021568-00021768 have voted for as well the reason that +_n0U_DCTV7I-00073-00021769-00021930 Donald Trump one isn't just because you +_n0U_DCTV7I-00074-00021931-00022053 were voted for him is because the +_n0U_DCTV7I-00075-00022054-00022187 Democrats are not running a campaign +_n0U_DCTV7I-00076-00022188-00022509 they should not have elected someone and +_n0U_DCTV7I-00077-00022510-00022713 like Hillary Clinton who people do not +_n0U_DCTV7I-00078-00022714-00022955 trust hopefully it's not gonna be like +_n0U_DCTV7I-00079-00022956-00023262 another dick cheney and bush situation +_n0U_DCTV7I-00080-00023263-00023628 where a you know Mike Pence is the real +_n0U_DCTV7I-00081-00023629-00024138 person in power I'm very baffled like +_n0U_DCTV7I-00082-00024139-00024519 very much baffled by like how 11,000 +_n0U_DCTV7I-00083-00024520-00024660 people could just get up and vote for +_n0U_DCTV7I-00084-00024661-00024735 Harambee +_n0U_DCTV7I-00085-00024736-00025020 like how does that happen for a joke +_n0U_DCTV7I-00086-00025021-00025182 this is the presidential election what +_n0U_DCTV7I-00087-00025183-00025370 do you what are you guys doing yeah +_n0U_DCTV7I-00088-00025371-00025634 hopefully hopefully he doesn't get +_n0U_DCTV7I-00089-00025635-00026174 reelected no matter the outcome of +_n0U_DCTV7I-00090-00026175-00026673 Donald Trump being president it's not +_n0U_DCTV7I-00091-00026674-00026994 the end of the world I guess the world +_n0U_DCTV7I-00092-00026995-00027318 ending in a nuclear explosion +A083IrS1464-00000-00000043-00000337 Christopher Lynch born 1963 is a +A083IrS1464-00001-00000338-00000526 political scientist and theorist who +A083IrS1464-00002-00000527-00000727 focuses his research on Machiavelli +A083IrS1464-00003-00000728-00000952 Lynch has published one book and +A083IrS1464-00004-00000953-00001602 numerous articles in academic journals +A083IrS1464-00005-00001603-00002155 topic publications +A083IrS1464-00006-00002156-00002434 Lynch translated edited and provided an +A083IrS1464-00007-00002435-00002638 introduction of niccolo machiavelli art +A083IrS1464-00008-00002639-00002860 of war while staying true to the +A083IrS1464-00009-00002861-00003085 original text Lynch was also able to +A083IrS1464-00010-00003086-00003247 translate it into modern English to +A083IrS1464-00011-00003247-00003390 allow the audience to respect +A083IrS1464-00012-00003392-00003532 Machiavelli's writings on the +A083IrS1464-00013-00003533-00003771 relationship between war and politics +A083IrS1464-00014-00003772-00004000 additionally the introduction that Lynch +A083IrS1464-00015-00004001-00004152 wrote provides political and historical +A083IrS1464-00016-00004153-00004401 context and its current relevance +A083IrS1464-00017-00004402-00004615 furthermore the book includes an +A083IrS1464-00018-00004616-00004807 interpretive essay that explores three +A083IrS1464-00019-00004808-00004951 different aspects of the text +A083IrS1464-00020-00004952-00005152 philosophical military and political +A083IrS1464-00021-00005153-00005382 Lynch co-edited principal imprudence in +A083IrS1464-00022-00005383-00005566 Western political thought a collection +A083IrS1464-00023-00005567-00006243 of essays published in 2016 +A083IrS1464-00024-00006244-00006794 topic academic life +A083IrS1464-00025-00006795-00007042 at Boston College Lynch was a bradley +A083IrS1464-00026-00007043-00007256 postdoctoral fellow he taught at the +A083IrS1464-00027-00007256-00007613 University of Dallas Rome campus in 2005 +A083IrS1464-00028-00007614-00007867 he participated in ISI Jack Miller +A083IrS1464-00029-00007868-00008137 Center's lamb and summer Institute in +A083IrS1464-00030-00008138-00008389 2006 he was faculty fellow at the +A083IrS1464-00031-00008390-00008605 foundation for defense of democracies +A083IrS1464-00032-00008606-00009032 between 2006 and 2007 Lynch was senior +A083IrS1464-00033-00009033-00009214 advisor at the United States Department +A083IrS1464-00034-00009215-00009538 of State and in 2011 he was a faculty +A083IrS1464-00035-00009539-00009739 member on the Hartog political studies +A083IrS1464-00036-00009740-00009967 program in Washington DC Lynch was +A083IrS1464-00037-00009968-00010169 granted the Olin faculty fellowship to +A083IrS1464-00038-00010170-00010327 support his work on a new book about +A083IrS1464-00039-00010328-00010534 Machiavelli's thoughts on war +A083IrS1464-00040-00010535-00010823 additionally on the 500th anniversary of +A083IrS1464-00041-00010824-00010973 the writing of Machiavelli's The Prince +A083IrS1464-00042-00010974-00011160 Lynch was discussant in the +A083IrS1464-00043-00011161-00011380 Machiavelli's The Prince at five hundred +A083IrS1464-00044-00011381-00011716 rereading the Prince in the 21st century +A083IrS1464-00045-00011717-00012023 panel at the 2013 American Political +A083IrS1464-00046-00012024-00012305 Science Association a PSA annual meeting +A083IrS1464-00047-00012306-00012509 and exhibition in Chicago and he spoke +A083IrS1464-00048-00012510-00012703 at Harvard University on the question of +A083IrS1464-00049-00012704-00012877 whether Machiavelli is a philosopher +A083IrS1464-00050-00012878-00013136 Lynch has been a part of workshops and +A083IrS1464-00051-00013137-00013375 seminars at Army War College Naval War +A083IrS1464-00052-00013376-00013627 College and National Defense University +A083IrS1464-00053-00013628-00013862 additionally he has presented lectures +A083IrS1464-00054-00013863-00014047 at the Air Force Academy in the National +A083IrS1464-00055-00014048-00014347 War College currently Lynch's professor +A083IrS1464-00056-00014348-00014552 of great ideas and political science at +A083IrS1464-00057-00014553-00015118 Carthage College +A083IrS1464-00058-00015119-00015662 topic education +A083IrS1464-00059-00015663-00015869 Lynch received a Bachelor of Arts from +A083IrS1464-00060-00015869-00016069 st. John's College in his master's and +A083IrS1464-00061-00016071-00016274 Doctorate from University of Chicago's +A083IrS1464-00062-00016275-00016892 Committee on social thought +A083IrS1464-00063-00016893-00017433 topic personal life +A083IrS1464-00064-00017434-00017667 Lynch lives in Chicago with his wife +A083IrS1464-00065-00017668-00017922 Kate they have three children Emily +A083IrS1464-00066-00017923-00018201 Henry and grace +A0s59i6j9mY-00000-00000028-00000377 John Whiteside Jack Parsons foreign +A0s59i6j9mY-00001-00000378-00000632 Marvel Whiteside Parsons October 2nd +A0s59i6j9mY-00002-00000633-00001073 1914 to June 17 1952 was an American +A0s59i6j9mY-00003-00001074-00001256 rocket engineer and rocket propulsion +A0s59i6j9mY-00004-00001257-00001462 researcher chemist and phthalimide +A0s59i6j9mY-00005-00001463-00001780 occultist associated with the California +A0s59i6j9mY-00006-00001782-00002048 Institute of Technology Caltech Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00007-00002049-00002234 was one of the principal founders of +A0s59i6j9mY-00008-00002235-00002438 both the Jet Propulsion Laboratory JPL +A0s59i6j9mY-00009-00002439-00002733 and the Aerojet Engineering Corporation +A0s59i6j9mY-00010-00002734-00003025 he invented the first rocket engine to +A0s59i6j9mY-00011-00003026-00003217 use a castable composite rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00012-00003218-00003425 propellant and pioneered the advancement +A0s59i6j9mY-00013-00003426-00003629 of both liquid fuel and solid fuel +A0s59i6j9mY-00014-00003629-00004001 Rockets born in Los Angeles Parsons was +A0s59i6j9mY-00015-00004002-00004220 raised by a wealthy family on Orange +A0s59i6j9mY-00016-00004221-00004541 Grove Avenue in Pasadena inspired by +A0s59i6j9mY-00017-00004542-00004769 science fiction literature he developed +A0s59i6j9mY-00018-00004770-00004979 an interest in rocketry in his childhood +A0s59i6j9mY-00019-00004980-00005267 and in 1928 began amateur rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00020-00005268-00005495 experiments with school friend ed Forman +A0s59i6j9mY-00021-00005496-00005726 he dropped out of Pasadena junior +A0s59i6j9mY-00022-00005727-00005999 college and Stanford University due to +A0s59i6j9mY-00023-00006000-00006200 financial difficulties during the Great +A0s59i6j9mY-00024-00006201-00006496 Depression and in 1934 he United with +A0s59i6j9mY-00025-00006497-00006683 Foreman and graduate student Frank +A0s59i6j9mY-00026-00006684-00006910 Malina to form the Caltech affiliated +A0s59i6j9mY-00027-00006911-00007178 Guggenheim aeronautical laboratory G al +A0s59i6j9mY-00028-00007179-00007475 CI T rocket research group supported by +A0s59i6j9mY-00029-00007476-00007881 G AL CIT Chairman Theodore von Karman in +A0s59i6j9mY-00030-00007883-00008258 1939 the GA L CIT group gained funding +A0s59i6j9mY-00031-00008259-00008464 from the National Academy of Sciences +A0s59i6j9mY-00032-00008465-00008749 nas to work on jet-assisted takeoff jato +A0s59i6j9mY-00033-00008750-00008931 for the US military +A0s59i6j9mY-00034-00008932-00009199 following American entry into world war +A0s59i6j9mY-00035-00009200-00009530 ii in 1942 they founded Aerojet to +A0s59i6j9mY-00036-00009531-00009746 develop and sell their jato technology +A0s59i6j9mY-00037-00009747-00010242 the G ALC IT group became JPL in 1943 +A0s59i6j9mY-00038-00010243-00010531 after a brief involvement with Marxism +A0s59i6j9mY-00039-00010532-00010862 in 1939 Parsons converted to Thelema the +A0s59i6j9mY-00040-00010863-00011092 English occultist aleister crowley's new +A0s59i6j9mY-00041-00011093-00011495 religious movement in 1941 alongside his +A0s59i6j9mY-00042-00011496-00011744 first wife Helen Northrop Parsons joined +A0s59i6j9mY-00043-00011745-00011971 the agape Lodge the Californian branch +A0s59i6j9mY-00044-00011972-00012160 of the phthalimide Ordo Templi Orientis +A0s59i6j9mY-00045-00012161-00012545 OTO at Crowley's bidding he replaced +A0s59i6j9mY-00046-00012546-00012774 Wilfred Talbot Smith as its leader in +A0s59i6j9mY-00047-00012775-00013060 1942 and ran the lodge from his mansion +A0s59i6j9mY-00048-00013061-00013382 on Orange Grove Avenue Parsons was a +A0s59i6j9mY-00049-00013383-00013738 from JPL and Aerojet in 1944 due to the +A0s59i6j9mY-00050-00013740-00013904 lodges infamous reputation +A0s59i6j9mY-00051-00013905-00014081 along with his hazardous workplace +A0s59i6j9mY-00052-00014082-00014522 conduct in 1945 Parsons separated from +A0s59i6j9mY-00053-00014522-00014713 Helen after having an affair with her +A0s59i6j9mY-00054-00014715-00014947 sister Sarah when Sarah left him for l +A0s59i6j9mY-00055-00014949-00015155 ron hubbard he conducted the babylon +A0s59i6j9mY-00056-00015156-00015401 working a series of rituals designed to +A0s59i6j9mY-00057-00015402-00015616 invoke the Thelema goddess babylon to +A0s59i6j9mY-00058-00015618-00015869 earth he and hubbard continued the +A0s59i6j9mY-00059-00015869-00016076 procedure with Marjorie Cameron whom +A0s59i6j9mY-00060-00016077-00016457 Parsons married in 1946 after Hubbard +A0s59i6j9mY-00061-00016458-00016637 and Sarah defrauded him of his life +A0s59i6j9mY-00062-00016638-00016706 savings +A0s59i6j9mY-00063-00016707-00016943 Parsons resigned from the OTO and went +A0s59i6j9mY-00064-00016944-00017147 through various jobs while acting as a +A0s59i6j9mY-00065-00017148-00017333 consultant for the Israeli rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00066-00017334-00017609 program amid the climate of McCarthyism +A0s59i6j9mY-00067-00017610-00017852 he was accused of espionage and left +A0s59i6j9mY-00068-00017853-00018197 unable to work in rocketry in 1952 +A0s59i6j9mY-00069-00018198-00018494 Parsons died at the age of 37 in a home +A0s59i6j9mY-00070-00018495-00018710 laboratory explosion that attracted +A0s59i6j9mY-00071-00018711-00018884 national media attention the police +A0s59i6j9mY-00072-00018885-00019130 ruled it an accident but many associates +A0s59i6j9mY-00073-00019131-00019384 suspected suicide or murder +A0s59i6j9mY-00074-00019385-00019655 Parsons occult and libertarian writings +A0s59i6j9mY-00075-00019656-00019880 were published posthumously with Western +A0s59i6j9mY-00076-00019881-00020108 esoteric and countercultural circles +A0s59i6j9mY-00077-00020109-00020243 citing him as one of the most +A0s59i6j9mY-00078-00020244-00020429 significant figures in propagating +A0s59i6j9mY-00079-00020430-00020699 Thelema across North America although +A0s59i6j9mY-00080-00020700-00020927 academic interest in his scientific +A0s59i6j9mY-00081-00020928-00021188 career was negligible historians came to +A0s59i6j9mY-00082-00021189-00021404 recognize Parsons contributions to +A0s59i6j9mY-00083-00021405-00021680 rocket engineering for these innovations +A0s59i6j9mY-00084-00021681-00021929 his advocacy of space exploration and +A0s59i6j9mY-00085-00021930-00022133 human spaceflight and his role in the +A0s59i6j9mY-00086-00022134-00022403 founding of JPL and Aerojet Parsons is +A0s59i6j9mY-00087-00022404-00022597 regarded as among the most important +A0s59i6j9mY-00088-00022598-00022793 figures in the history of the u.s. space +A0s59i6j9mY-00089-00022794-00023075 program he has been the subject of +A0s59i6j9mY-00090-00023076-00023285 several biographies and fictionalized +A0s59i6j9mY-00091-00023286-00023497 portrayals including the television +A0s59i6j9mY-00092-00023498-00024118 drama strange angel +A0s59i6j9mY-00093-00024119-00024979 topic biography +A0s59i6j9mY-00094-00024980-00025693 topic early life 1914 to 34 +A0s59i6j9mY-00095-00025694-00025967 Marvell Whiteside Parsons was born on +A0s59i6j9mY-00096-00025968-00026288 October 2nd 1914 at the Good Samaritan +A0s59i6j9mY-00097-00026289-00026606 Hospital in Los Angeles his parents +A0s59i6j9mY-00098-00026607-00027068 Ruth Virginia Whiteside C 1893 to 1952 +A0s59i6j9mY-00099-00027069-00027623 and Marvell H Parsons C 1894 to 1947 had +A0s59i6j9mY-00100-00027624-00027845 moved to California from Massachusetts +A0s59i6j9mY-00101-00027845-00028064 the previous year purchasing a house on +A0s59i6j9mY-00102-00028064-00028294 Scarfe Street in downtown Los Angeles +A0s59i6j9mY-00103-00028295-00028595 their son was his father's namesake but +A0s59i6j9mY-00104-00028595-00028789 was known in the household as Jack the +A0s59i6j9mY-00105-00028789-00029060 marriage broke down soon after Jack's +A0s59i6j9mY-00106-00029061-00029239 birth when Ruth discovered that his +A0s59i6j9mY-00107-00029241-00029444 father had made numerous visits to a +A0s59i6j9mY-00108-00029445-00029672 prostitute and she filed for divorce in +A0s59i6j9mY-00109-00029673-00030038 March 1915 Parsons father returned to +A0s59i6j9mY-00110-00030039-00030242 Massachusetts after being publicly +A0s59i6j9mY-00111-00030243-00030443 exposed as an adulterer with Ruth +A0s59i6j9mY-00112-00030444-00030626 forbidding him from having any contact +A0s59i6j9mY-00113-00030627-00030956 with Jack Parsons father later joined +A0s59i6j9mY-00114-00030957-00031160 the armed forces reaching the rank of +A0s59i6j9mY-00115-00031161-00031367 Major and married a woman with whom he +A0s59i6j9mY-00116-00031368-00031577 had a son named Charles a half-brother +A0s59i6j9mY-00117-00031577-00031856 Jack would only meet once although she +A0s59i6j9mY-00118-00031857-00032089 retained her ex-husband's surname Ruth +A0s59i6j9mY-00119-00032091-00032294 started calling her son John many +A0s59i6j9mY-00120-00032295-00032492 friends throughout his life knew him as +A0s59i6j9mY-00121-00032493-00032768 Jack roots parents Walter and Carrie +A0s59i6j9mY-00122-00032769-00032993 Whiteside moved to California to be with +A0s59i6j9mY-00123-00032994-00033179 Jack and their daughter using their +A0s59i6j9mY-00124-00033180-00033368 wealth to buy an upmarket house on +A0s59i6j9mY-00125-00033369-00033647 Orange Grove Avenue in Pasadena known +A0s59i6j9mY-00126-00033648-00033965 locally as millionaire's mile where they +A0s59i6j9mY-00127-00033966-00034052 could live together +A0s59i6j9mY-00128-00034053-00034319 Jack was surrounded by domestic servants +A0s59i6j9mY-00129-00034320-00034558 having few friends he lived a solitary +A0s59i6j9mY-00130-00034559-00034841 childhood and spent much time reading he +A0s59i6j9mY-00131-00034842-00035048 took a particular interest in works of +A0s59i6j9mY-00132-00035049-00035255 mythology Arthurian legend and the +A0s59i6j9mY-00133-00035256-00035504 Arabian Nights through the works of +A0s59i6j9mY-00134-00035505-00035705 Jules Verne he became interested in +A0s59i6j9mY-00135-00035706-00035909 science fiction and a keen reader of +A0s59i6j9mY-00136-00035910-00036125 pulp magazines like amazing stories +A0s59i6j9mY-00137-00036126-00036314 which led to his early interest in +A0s59i6j9mY-00138-00036315-00036494 rocketry when he was 12 +A0s59i6j9mY-00139-00036495-00036692 Parsons began attending Washington +A0s59i6j9mY-00140-00036693-00036896 Junior High School where he performed +A0s59i6j9mY-00141-00036897-00037145 poorly something biographer George +A0s59i6j9mY-00142-00037146-00037294 pendel attributed to undiagnosed +A0s59i6j9mY-00143-00037295-00037562 dyslexia and was bullied for his +A0s59i6j9mY-00144-00037563-00037733 upper-class status and perceived +A0s59i6j9mY-00145-00037734-00038057 effeminacy although unpopular he formed +A0s59i6j9mY-00146-00038058-00038279 a strong friendship with Edward Forman a +A0s59i6j9mY-00147-00038280-00038519 boy from a poor working-class family who +A0s59i6j9mY-00148-00038520-00038720 defended him from bullies and shared his +A0s59i6j9mY-00149-00038721-00038935 interest in science fiction and Rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00150-00038936-00039136 with the well read Parsons enthralling +A0s59i6j9mY-00151-00039137-00039429 Foreman with his literary prowess in +A0s59i6j9mY-00152-00039430-00039751 1928 the pair adopting the Latin motto +A0s59i6j9mY-00153-00039752-00040005 per aspera ad astra through hardship to +A0s59i6j9mY-00154-00040006-00040258 the stars began engaging in homemade +A0s59i6j9mY-00155-00040259-00040486 gunpowder based rocket experiments in +A0s59i6j9mY-00156-00040487-00040740 the nearby Arroyo Seco Canyon as well as +A0s59i6j9mY-00157-00040741-00040965 the Parsons family's back garden which +A0s59i6j9mY-00158-00040966-00041158 left it pockmarked with craters from +A0s59i6j9mY-00159-00041159-00041412 explosive test failures they +A0s59i6j9mY-00160-00041413-00041564 incorporated commonly available +A0s59i6j9mY-00161-00041565-00041827 fireworks such as cherry bombs into +A0s59i6j9mY-00162-00041828-00042027 their rockets and Parsons suggested +A0s59i6j9mY-00163-00042028-00042223 using glue as a binding agent to +A0s59i6j9mY-00164-00042224-00042511 increase the rocket fuel stability this +A0s59i6j9mY-00165-00042512-00042736 research became more complex when they +A0s59i6j9mY-00166-00042737-00042939 began using materials such as aluminium +A0s59i6j9mY-00167-00042940-00043192 foil to make the gunpowder easier to +A0s59i6j9mY-00168-00043193-00043464 cast Parsons had also begun to +A0s59i6j9mY-00169-00043465-00043674 investigate occultism and performed a +A0s59i6j9mY-00170-00043675-00043896 ritual intended to invoke the devil into +A0s59i6j9mY-00171-00043897-00044055 his bedroom he worried that the +A0s59i6j9mY-00172-00044056-00044245 invocation was successful and was +A0s59i6j9mY-00173-00044246-00044443 frightened into ceasing these activities +A0s59i6j9mY-00174-00044444-00044830 in 1929 he began attending John Muir +A0s59i6j9mY-00175-00044831-00045004 high school where he maintained an +A0s59i6j9mY-00176-00045005-00045199 insular friendship with Foreman and was +A0s59i6j9mY-00177-00045200-00045446 a keen participant in fencing in archery +A0s59i6j9mY-00178-00045447-00045742 after he received poor school results +A0s59i6j9mY-00179-00045743-00045943 Carson's mother sent him away to study +A0s59i6j9mY-00180-00045944-00046152 at a private boarding school in San +A0s59i6j9mY-00181-00046153-00046443 Diego the brown military academy for +A0s59i6j9mY-00182-00046444-00046695 boys but he was expelled for blowing up +A0s59i6j9mY-00183-00046696-00047051 the toilets the Parsons family spent +A0s59i6j9mY-00184-00047052-00047280 mid-1999 at or of Europe before +A0s59i6j9mY-00185-00047281-00047511 returning to Pasadena where they moved +A0s59i6j9mY-00186-00047512-00047820 into a house on San Rafael Avenue with +A0s59i6j9mY-00187-00047821-00048010 the onset of the Great Depression their +A0s59i6j9mY-00188-00048011-00048217 fortune began to dwindle and in July +A0s59i6j9mY-00189-00048218-00048539 1931 Jack's grandfather Walter died +A0s59i6j9mY-00190-00048540-00048814 Parsons began studying at the privately +A0s59i6j9mY-00191-00048815-00049005 run University School a liberal +A0s59i6j9mY-00192-00049006-00049218 institution that took an unconventional +A0s59i6j9mY-00193-00049219-00049458 approach to teaching he flourished +A0s59i6j9mY-00194-00049459-00049668 academically becoming editor of the +A0s59i6j9mY-00195-00049669-00049924 school's newspaper El University no and +A0s59i6j9mY-00196-00049925-00050143 winning an award for literary excellence +A0s59i6j9mY-00197-00050144-00050299 teachers who had trained at the nearby +A0s59i6j9mY-00198-00050300-00050530 California Institute of Technology +A0s59i6j9mY-00199-00050531-00050736 Caltech honed his attentions on the +A0s59i6j9mY-00200-00050737-00051001 study of chemistry with the family's +A0s59i6j9mY-00201-00051002-00051243 financial difficulties deepening Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00202-00051244-00051463 began working during weekends and school +A0s59i6j9mY-00203-00051464-00051657 holidays at the offices of the Hercules +A0s59i6j9mY-00204-00051658-00051855 powder Company where he learned more +A0s59i6j9mY-00205-00051856-00052071 about explosives and their potential use +A0s59i6j9mY-00206-00052072-00052275 in rocket propulsion +A0s59i6j9mY-00207-00052276-00052449 he and Foreman continued to +A0s59i6j9mY-00208-00052450-00052647 independently explore the subject in +A0s59i6j9mY-00209-00052648-00052838 their spare time building and testing +A0s59i6j9mY-00210-00052839-00053018 different rockets sometimes with +A0s59i6j9mY-00211-00053019-00053243 materials that Parsons had stolen from +A0s59i6j9mY-00212-00053244-00053297 work +A0s59i6j9mY-00213-00053298-00053576 Carson soon constructed a solid fuel +A0s59i6j9mY-00214-00053577-00053738 rocket engine and with Foreman +A0s59i6j9mY-00215-00053739-00053937 corresponded with pioneer rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00216-00053938-00054167 engineers including Robert H Goddard +A0s59i6j9mY-00217-00054169-00054365 Hermann Oberth Konstantin Tsiolkovsky +A0s59i6j9mY-00218-00054366-00054755 Willie Lai and Wernher von Braun Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00219-00054757-00054966 and von Braun had hours of telephone +A0s59i6j9mY-00220-00054966-00055179 conversations about rocketry in their +A0s59i6j9mY-00221-00055179-00055359 respective countries as well as their +A0s59i6j9mY-00222-00055360-00055442 own research +A0s59i6j9mY-00223-00055444-00055676 Parsons graduated from University School +A0s59i6j9mY-00224-00055677-00055962 in 1933 and moved with his mother and +A0s59i6j9mY-00225-00055963-00056166 grandmother to a more modest house on +A0s59i6j9mY-00226-00056166-00056397 st. John Avenue where he continued to +A0s59i6j9mY-00227-00056398-00056598 pursue his interests in literature and +A0s59i6j9mY-00228-00056599-00056879 poetry he enrolled in Pasadena junior +A0s59i6j9mY-00229-00056880-00057080 college with the hope of earning an +A0s59i6j9mY-00230-00057082-00057263 associate degree in physics and +A0s59i6j9mY-00231-00057264-00057476 chemistry but dropped out after only a +A0s59i6j9mY-00232-00057477-00057716 term because of his financial situation +A0s59i6j9mY-00233-00057717-00057909 and took up permanent employment at the +A0s59i6j9mY-00234-00057910-00058203 Hercules powder company his employers +A0s59i6j9mY-00235-00058204-00058353 then sent him to work at their +A0s59i6j9mY-00236-00058354-00058538 manufacturing plant in Hercules +A0s59i6j9mY-00237-00058539-00058824 California on San Francisco Bay where he +A0s59i6j9mY-00238-00058825-00059093 earned a relatively high wage of $100 a +A0s59i6j9mY-00239-00059094-00059306 month he was plagued by headaches caused +A0s59i6j9mY-00240-00059307-00059622 by exposure to nitroglycerin he saved +A0s59i6j9mY-00241-00059623-00059811 money in the hope of continuing his +A0s59i6j9mY-00242-00059812-00060032 academic studies and began a degree in +A0s59i6j9mY-00243-00060033-00060249 chemistry at Stanford University but +A0s59i6j9mY-00244-00060250-00060479 found the tuition fees unaffordable and +A0s59i6j9mY-00245-00060480-00061079 returned to Pasadena +A0s59i6j9mY-00246-00061080-00061509 topic G al CI T rocket research group +A0s59i6j9mY-00247-00061510-00062226 and the canet trial 1934 to 38 +A0s59i6j9mY-00248-00062227-00062444 in the hope of gaining access to the +A0s59i6j9mY-00249-00062445-00062642 state-of-the-art resources of Caltech +A0s59i6j9mY-00250-00062644-00062867 for their rocketry research Parsons and +A0s59i6j9mY-00251-00062869-00063054 Foreman attended a lecture on the work +A0s59i6j9mY-00252-00063054-00063297 of Austrian rocket engineer Eugen Sanger +A0s59i6j9mY-00253-00063298-00063504 and hypothetical above stratospheric +A0s59i6j9mY-00254-00063504-00063699 aircraft by the Institute's William +A0s59i6j9mY-00255-00063700-00064007 Boley a PhD students specializing in +A0s59i6j9mY-00256-00064008-00064251 rocket-powered aircraft and approached +A0s59i6j9mY-00257-00064252-00064430 him to express their interest in +A0s59i6j9mY-00258-00064432-00064651 designing a liquid fuel rocket motor +A0s59i6j9mY-00259-00064652-00064932 Bolle redirected them to another PhD +A0s59i6j9mY-00260-00064933-00065151 student named Frank Malina a +A0s59i6j9mY-00261-00065152-00065369 mathematician and mechanical engineer +A0s59i6j9mY-00262-00065370-00065582 composing a thesis on rocket propulsion +A0s59i6j9mY-00263-00065583-00065775 who shared their interests and soon +A0s59i6j9mY-00264-00065776-00066081 befriended the pair parsons foreman and +A0s59i6j9mY-00265-00066082-00066318 molina applied for funding from Caltech +A0s59i6j9mY-00266-00066319-00066513 together they did not mention that their +A0s59i6j9mY-00267-00066514-00066678 ultimate objective was to develop +A0s59i6j9mY-00268-00066679-00066944 rockets for space exploration realizing +A0s59i6j9mY-00269-00066945-00067088 that most of the scientific +A0s59i6j9mY-00270-00067089-00067329 establishment then relegated such ideas +A0s59i6j9mY-00271-00067330-00067641 to science fiction while Caltex Clarke +A0s59i6j9mY-00272-00067642-00067848 Blanchard Milliken immediately rebuffed +A0s59i6j9mY-00273-00067849-00068085 them Melina's doctoral adviser Theodore +A0s59i6j9mY-00274-00068086-00068304 von Karman saw more promise in their +A0s59i6j9mY-00275-00068305-00068487 proposal and agreed to allow them to +A0s59i6j9mY-00276-00068488-00068679 operate under the auspices of the +A0s59i6j9mY-00277-00068680-00068886 university's Guggenheim aeronautical +A0s59i6j9mY-00278-00068887-00069249 laboratory G al CI T naming themselves +A0s59i6j9mY-00279-00069250-00069591 the GA l CIT rocket research group they +A0s59i6j9mY-00280-00069592-00069801 gained access to Caltech specialist +A0s59i6j9mY-00281-00069802-00069990 equipment though the economics of the +A0s59i6j9mY-00282-00069991-00070215 Great Depression left von Karman unable +A0s59i6j9mY-00283-00070216-00070443 to finance them the trio focused their +A0s59i6j9mY-00284-00070444-00070662 distinct skills on collaborative rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00285-00070663-00070856 development Parsons was the chemist +A0s59i6j9mY-00286-00070857-00071063 foreman the machinist and molina the +A0s59i6j9mY-00287-00071064-00071372 technical theoretician molina wrote in +A0s59i6j9mY-00288-00071373-00071651 1968 that the self-educated parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00289-00071652-00071880 lacked the discipline of a formal higher +A0s59i6j9mY-00290-00071881-00072141 education but had an uninhibited and +A0s59i6j9mY-00291-00072142-00072476 fruitful imagination the informally +A0s59i6j9mY-00292-00072477-00072669 trained parsons and foreman who as +A0s59i6j9mY-00293-00072670-00072921 described by Geoffrey a Landis were +A0s59i6j9mY-00294-00072922-00073176 eager to try whatever idea happened to +A0s59i6j9mY-00295-00073177-00073431 spring to mind contrasted with the +A0s59i6j9mY-00296-00073432-00073650 approach of molina who insisted on the +A0s59i6j9mY-00297-00073651-00073826 need for scientific discipline as +A0s59i6j9mY-00298-00073827-00074118 informed by von Karman Landis writes +A0s59i6j9mY-00299-00074119-00074331 that their creativity kept Molina +A0s59i6j9mY-00300-00074332-00074568 focused toward building actual rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00301-00074569-00074850 engines not just solving equations on +A0s59i6j9mY-00302-00074851-00075198 paper sharing socialist values they +A0s59i6j9mY-00303-00075199-00075468 operated on an egalitarian basis Moline +A0s59i6j9mY-00304-00075469-00075645 taught the others about scientific +A0s59i6j9mY-00305-00075646-00075819 procedure and they taught him about the +A0s59i6j9mY-00306-00075820-00076080 practical elements of rocketry they +A0s59i6j9mY-00307-00076081-00076338 often socialized smoking marijuana and +A0s59i6j9mY-00308-00076339-00076572 drinking while milena and Parsons said +A0s59i6j9mY-00309-00076573-00076724 about writing a semi-autobiographical +A0s59i6j9mY-00310-00076725-00076983 science fiction screenplay they planned +A0s59i6j9mY-00311-00076984-00077193 to pitch to Hollywood with strong anti +A0s59i6j9mY-00312-00077194-00077544 capitalist and pacifist themes Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00313-00077545-00077745 met Helen Northrop at a local church +A0s59i6j9mY-00314-00077746-00078083 dance and proposed marriage in July 1934 +A0s59i6j9mY-00315-00078084-00078342 she accepted and they were married in +A0s59i6j9mY-00316-00078343-00078606 April 1935 at the little Church of the +A0s59i6j9mY-00317-00078607-00078807 flowers in Forest Lawn Memorial Park +A0s59i6j9mY-00318-00078808-00079047 Glendale before undertaking a brief +A0s59i6j9mY-00319-00079048-00079362 honeymoon in San Diego they moved into a +A0s59i6j9mY-00320-00079363-00079608 house on South Terrace Drive Pasadena +A0s59i6j9mY-00321-00079609-00079824 while Parsons gained employment for the +A0s59i6j9mY-00322-00079825-00080079 explosives manufacturer Halifax powder +A0s59i6j9mY-00323-00080080-00080388 company at their facility in Saugus much +A0s59i6j9mY-00324-00080389-00080640 to Helens dismay Parsons spent most of +A0s59i6j9mY-00325-00080641-00080934 his wages funding the GLC IT rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00326-00080935-00081189 research group for extra money he +A0s59i6j9mY-00327-00081190-00081423 manufactured nitroglycerin in their home +A0s59i6j9mY-00328-00081424-00081645 constructing a home laboratory on their +A0s59i6j9mY-00329-00081646-00081912 front porch at one point he pawned +A0s59i6j9mY-00330-00081913-00082104 Helens engagement ring and he often +A0s59i6j9mY-00331-00082105-00082320 asked her family for loans Melina +A0s59i6j9mY-00332-00082321-00082572 recounted that Parsons and Forman were +A0s59i6j9mY-00333-00082573-00082818 not too pleased with an austere program +A0s59i6j9mY-00334-00082819-00082998 that did not include at least the +A0s59i6j9mY-00335-00082999-00083334 launching of model rockets but the group +A0s59i6j9mY-00336-00083335-00083529 reached the consensus of developing a +A0s59i6j9mY-00337-00083530-00083730 working static rocket motor before +A0s59i6j9mY-00338-00083731-00084018 embarking on more complex research they +A0s59i6j9mY-00339-00084019-00084246 contacted liquid fuel rocket pioneer +A0s59i6j9mY-00340-00084247-00084525 Robert H Goddard and he invited Melina +A0s59i6j9mY-00341-00084526-00084711 to his facility in Roswell New Mexico +A0s59i6j9mY-00342-00084712-00084989 but he was not interested in cooperating +A0s59i6j9mY-00343-00084990-00085245 reticent about sharing his research and +A0s59i6j9mY-00344-00085246-00085386 having been subjected to widespread +A0s59i6j9mY-00345-00085387-00085701 derision for his work in rocketry they +A0s59i6j9mY-00346-00085702-00085880 were instead joined by Caltech graduate +A0s59i6j9mY-00347-00085881-00086154 students Apollo mo-mo +A0s59i6j9mY-00348-00086155-00086460 Smith Carlos C would mark Muir Mills +A0s59i6j9mY-00349-00086461-00086739 Fred s Miller Williams C Rockefeller and +A0s59i6j9mY-00350-00086740-00086955 Rudolph shot shot was relied upon for +A0s59i6j9mY-00351-00086956-00087186 the use of his pickup truck to transport +A0s59i6j9mY-00352-00087187-00087465 equipment their first liquid fuel motor +A0s59i6j9mY-00353-00087466-00087672 test took place near the Devil's Gate +A0s59i6j9mY-00354-00087673-00088052 dam in the Arroyo Seco on Halloween 1936 +A0s59i6j9mY-00355-00088053-00088344 Parsons biographer John Carter described +A0s59i6j9mY-00356-00088345-00088589 the layout of the contraption as showing +A0s59i6j9mY-00357-00088590-00088853 oxygen flowing from one side with +A0s59i6j9mY-00358-00088854-00089072 methyl alcohol the fuel and nitrogen +A0s59i6j9mY-00359-00089073-00089351 flowing from the other side water-cooled +A0s59i6j9mY-00360-00089352-00089588 the rocket during the burn thrust pulled +A0s59i6j9mY-00361-00089589-00089834 down a spring which measured force the +A0s59i6j9mY-00362-00089835-00090014 deflection of the spring measured the +A0s59i6j9mY-00363-00090015-00090272 force applied to it a small diamond tip +A0s59i6j9mY-00364-00090273-00090485 on the apparatus scratched a glass plate +A0s59i6j9mY-00365-00090486-00090682 to mark the farthest point of deflection +A0s59i6j9mY-00366-00090683-00090941 the rocket and mount were protected by +A0s59i6j9mY-00367-00090942-00091133 sandbags with the tanks and the +A0s59i6j9mY-00368-00091134-00091442 experimenters well away from it three +A0s59i6j9mY-00369-00091443-00091643 attempts to fire the rocket failed on +A0s59i6j9mY-00370-00091644-00091817 the fourth the oxygen line was +A0s59i6j9mY-00371-00091818-00092012 accidentally ignited and perilously +A0s59i6j9mY-00372-00092013-00092192 billowed fire at the group but they +A0s59i6j9mY-00373-00092193-00092465 viewed this experience as formative they +A0s59i6j9mY-00374-00092466-00092642 continued their experiments throughout +A0s59i6j9mY-00375-00092643-00092957 the last quarter of 1936 after the final +A0s59i6j9mY-00376-00092958-00093143 test was successfully completed in +A0s59i6j9mY-00377-00093144-00093476 January 1937 von Karman agreed that they +A0s59i6j9mY-00378-00093477-00093671 could perform their future experiments +A0s59i6j9mY-00379-00093672-00093899 at an exclusive rocket testing facility +A0s59i6j9mY-00380-00093900-00094295 on campus in April 1937 Caltech +A0s59i6j9mY-00381-00094296-00094550 mathematician Chien Shui s'en a Chinese +A0s59i6j9mY-00382-00094551-00094823 citizen joined the group several months +A0s59i6j9mY-00383-00094824-00095081 later weld Arnold a Caltech laboratory +A0s59i6j9mY-00384-00095082-00095243 assistant who worked as the group's +A0s59i6j9mY-00385-00095244-00095543 official photographer also joined the +A0s59i6j9mY-00386-00095544-00095747 main reason for Arnold's appointment to +A0s59i6j9mY-00387-00095748-00095927 this position was his provision of a +A0s59i6j9mY-00388-00095928-00096116 donation to the group on behalf of an +A0s59i6j9mY-00389-00096117-00096392 anonymous benefactor they became well +A0s59i6j9mY-00390-00096393-00096605 known on campus earning the moniker of +A0s59i6j9mY-00391-00096606-00096899 the suicide squad for the dangerous +A0s59i6j9mY-00392-00096900-00097097 nature of some of their experiments and +A0s59i6j9mY-00393-00097098-00097280 attracting attention from the local +A0s59i6j9mY-00394-00097281-00097562 press Parsons himself gained further +A0s59i6j9mY-00395-00097563-00097787 media publicity when he appeared as an +A0s59i6j9mY-00396-00097788-00098000 expert explosives witness in the trial +A0s59i6j9mY-00397-00098001-00098195 of Captain Earle canet the head of +A0s59i6j9mY-00398-00098196-00098429 police intelligence in Los Angeles who +A0s59i6j9mY-00399-00098430-00098645 was accused of conspiring to set a car +A0s59i6j9mY-00400-00098646-00098852 bomb in the attempted murder of private +A0s59i6j9mY-00401-00098853-00099098 investigator Harry Raymond a former LAPD +A0s59i6j9mY-00402-00099099-00099347 detective who was fired after whistle +A0s59i6j9mY-00403-00099348-00099518 blowing against police corruption +A0s59i6j9mY-00404-00099519-00099803 wen-chi ned was convicted largely on +A0s59i6j9mY-00405-00099804-00100031 Parsons testimony which included his +A0s59i6j9mY-00406-00100032-00100241 forensic reconstruction of the car bomb +A0s59i6j9mY-00407-00100242-00100472 and its explosion his identity as an +A0s59i6j9mY-00408-00100473-00100691 expert scientist in the public eye was +A0s59i6j9mY-00409-00100692-00100868 established despite his lack of a +A0s59i6j9mY-00410-00100869-00101156 university education while working at +A0s59i6j9mY-00411-00101157-00101384 Caltech Parsons was admitted to evening +A0s59i6j9mY-00412-00101385-00101609 courses in chemistry at the University +A0s59i6j9mY-00413-00101610-00101849 of Southern California USC but +A0s59i6j9mY-00414-00101850-00102158 distracted by his GA L CIT workload he +A0s59i6j9mY-00415-00102159-00102238 attended +A0s59i6j9mY-00416-00102239-00102427 radically and received unexceptional +A0s59i6j9mY-00417-00102428-00102724 grades by early 1938 the group had made +A0s59i6j9mY-00418-00102725-00102877 their static rocket motor which +A0s59i6j9mY-00419-00102878-00103119 originally burned for three seconds run +A0s59i6j9mY-00420-00103120-00103351 for over a minute in May that year +A0s59i6j9mY-00421-00103352-00103600 Parsons was invited by Forrest J +A0s59i6j9mY-00422-00103601-00103822 Ackerman to lecture on his rocketry work +A0s59i6j9mY-00423-00103823-00103996 at chapter number four of the Los +A0s59i6j9mY-00424-00103997-00104289 Angeles science-fiction league la SFL +A0s59i6j9mY-00425-00104290-00104581 although he never joined the society he +A0s59i6j9mY-00426-00104582-00104806 occasionally attended their talks on one +A0s59i6j9mY-00427-00104807-00105025 occasion conversing with a teenage Ray +A0s59i6j9mY-00428-00105026-00105313 Bradbury another scientist to become +A0s59i6j9mY-00429-00105314-00105604 involved in the GLC IT project was +A0s59i6j9mY-00430-00105605-00105844 Sidney Weinbaum a Jewish refugee from +A0s59i6j9mY-00431-00105845-00106069 Europe who was a vocal Marxist he led +A0s59i6j9mY-00432-00106070-00106284 Parsons Molina and xi'an in their +A0s59i6j9mY-00433-00106285-00106471 creation of a largely secretive +A0s59i6j9mY-00434-00106472-00106681 communist discussion group at Caltech +A0s59i6j9mY-00435-00106682-00106920 which became known as professional unit +A0s59i6j9mY-00436-00106921-00107206 122 of the pasadena communist party +A0s59i6j9mY-00437-00107207-00107464 although parsons subscribed to the +A0s59i6j9mY-00438-00107465-00107644 people's daily world and joined the +A0s59i6j9mY-00439-00107645-00107965 American Civil Liberties Union ACLU he +A0s59i6j9mY-00440-00107966-00108186 refused to join the American Communist +A0s59i6j9mY-00441-00108188-00108391 Party causing a break in his and wine +A0s59i6j9mY-00442-00108392-00108646 Valens friendship this coupled with the +A0s59i6j9mY-00443-00108647-00108892 need to focus on paid employment led to +A0s59i6j9mY-00444-00108893-00109086 the disintegration of much of the rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00445-00109088-00109291 research group leaving only its three +A0s59i6j9mY-00446-00109292-00110006 founding members by late 1938 +A0s59i6j9mY-00447-00110007-00110357 topic embracing thelema advancing jato +A0s59i6j9mY-00448-00110358-00111109 and foundation of Aerojet 1939 to 42 +A0s59i6j9mY-00449-00111110-00111494 in January 1939 John and Frances Baxter +A0s59i6j9mY-00450-00111495-00111676 a brother and sister who had befriended +A0s59i6j9mY-00451-00111677-00111925 Jack and Helen Parsons took Jack to the +A0s59i6j9mY-00452-00111926-00112135 Church of Thelema on Winona Boulevard +A0s59i6j9mY-00453-00112136-00112300 Hollywood where he witnessed the +A0s59i6j9mY-00454-00112301-00112513 performance of the Gnostic Mass +A0s59i6j9mY-00455-00112514-00112741 celebrants of the church had included +A0s59i6j9mY-00456-00112742-00112958 Hollywood actor John Carradine and gay +A0s59i6j9mY-00457-00112958-00113185 rights activist Harry Hay Parsons was +A0s59i6j9mY-00458-00113186-00113359 intrigued having already heard of +A0s59i6j9mY-00459-00113360-00113551 thalamus founder and outer head of the +A0s59i6j9mY-00460-00113552-00113827 Ordo Templi Orientis OTO Aleister +A0s59i6j9mY-00461-00113828-00114016 Crowley after reading a copy of +A0s59i6j9mY-00462-00114017-00114373 Crowley's text konnex owned packs 1907 +A0s59i6j9mY-00463-00114374-00114601 Parsons was introduced to leading +A0s59i6j9mY-00464-00114602-00114824 members Regina call Jane wolf and +A0s59i6j9mY-00465-00114825-00115129 Wilfred Talbot Smith at the mass feeling +A0s59i6j9mY-00466-00115130-00115450 both repulsion and attraction for Smith +A0s59i6j9mY-00467-00115451-00115682 Parsons continued to sporadically attend +A0s59i6j9mY-00468-00115683-00115919 the church's events for a year he +A0s59i6j9mY-00469-00115920-00116123 continued to read Crowley's works which +A0s59i6j9mY-00470-00116124-00116290 increasingly interested him and +A0s59i6j9mY-00471-00116291-00116575 encouraged Helen to read them Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00472-00116576-00116747 came to believe in the reality of +A0s59i6j9mY-00473-00116748-00116948 Thelema magic as a force that could be +A0s59i6j9mY-00474-00116949-00117226 explained through quantum physics he +A0s59i6j9mY-00475-00117227-00117395 tried to interest his friends and +A0s59i6j9mY-00476-00117396-00117604 acquaintances in Thelema taking science +A0s59i6j9mY-00477-00117605-00117818 fiction writers Jack Williamson and +A0s59i6j9mY-00478-00117819-00118015 Cleve Cartmell to a performance of the +A0s59i6j9mY-00479-00118016-00118225 Gnostic Mass although they were +A0s59i6j9mY-00480-00118226-00118477 unimpressed Parsons was more successful +A0s59i6j9mY-00481-00118478-00118684 with Grady Lewis McMurtry a young +A0s59i6j9mY-00482-00118685-00118876 Caltech student he had befriended as +A0s59i6j9mY-00483-00118877-00119125 well as McMurtry's fiancee Claire Palmer +A0s59i6j9mY-00484-00119126-00119473 and Helen's sister Sarah Betty Northrup +A0s59i6j9mY-00485-00119474-00119747 Jack and Helen were initiated into the +A0s59i6j9mY-00486-00119748-00119959 agape Lodge the renamed Church of +A0s59i6j9mY-00487-00119960-00120008 Thelema +A0s59i6j9mY-00488-00120008-00120400 in February 1941 Parsons adopted the +A0s59i6j9mY-00489-00120401-00120644 thalamic motto of Thelema optin TM proto +A0s59i6j9mY-00490-00120645-00120910 amorous nuptiai a Latin mistranslation +A0s59i6j9mY-00491-00120911-00121129 of the establishment of Thelema +A0s59i6j9mY-00492-00121130-00121424 through the rituals of love the initials +A0s59i6j9mY-00493-00121425-00121684 of this motto spelled out T OPA n also +A0s59i6j9mY-00494-00121685-00121977 serving as the declaration to a pan +A0s59i6j9mY-00495-00121978-00122198 commenting on Parsons errors of +A0s59i6j9mY-00496-00122199-00122432 translation in jest Crowley said that +A0s59i6j9mY-00497-00122433-00122662 the motto which you mention as couched +A0s59i6j9mY-00498-00122663-00122863 in a language beyond my powers of +A0s59i6j9mY-00499-00122864-00123229 understanding Parsons also adopted the +A0s59i6j9mY-00500-00123230-00123583 thalamic title freighter T OPA n with T +A0s59i6j9mY-00501-00123584-00123821 OPA n represented in Kabbalistic +A0s59i6j9mY-00502-00123822-00124159 numerology as 210 the name with which he +A0s59i6j9mY-00503-00124160-00124343 frequently signed letters to occult +A0s59i6j9mY-00504-00124344-00124457 associates +A0s59i6j9mY-00505-00124458-00124622 while Helen became known as sir or +A0s59i6j9mY-00506-00124623-00124856 Grimaud Smith wrote to Crowley saying +A0s59i6j9mY-00507-00124857-00125279 that Parsons was a really excellent man +A0s59i6j9mY-00508-00125280-00125540 he has an excellent mind and much better +A0s59i6j9mY-00509-00125541-00125833 intellect than myself +A0s59i6j9mY-00510-00125833-00126139 JP is going to be very valuable +A0s59i6j9mY-00511-00126140-00126439 wolf wrote to German OTO representative +A0s59i6j9mY-00512-00126440-00126915 Karl Germer that Parsons was an a.1 man +A0s59i6j9mY-00513-00126916-00127152 Crowley asked entertainment as a matter +A0s59i6j9mY-00514-00127153-00127449 of fact and mooted Parsons as a +A0s59i6j9mY-00515-00127450-00127668 potential successor to Crowley as outer +A0s59i6j9mY-00516-00127669-00127773 head of the order +A0s59i6j9mY-00517-00127774-00128013 Crowley concurred with such assessments +A0s59i6j9mY-00518-00128014-00128316 informing Smith that Parsons is the most +A0s59i6j9mY-00519-00128317-00128547 valued member of the whole order with no +A0s59i6j9mY-00520-00128548-00128655 exception +A0s59i6j9mY-00521-00128656-00128949 at Vaughn Carmen's suggestion Frank +A0s59i6j9mY-00522-00128950-00129161 Molina approached the National Academy +A0s59i6j9mY-00523-00129163-00129408 of Sciences nos Committee on Army Air +A0s59i6j9mY-00524-00129408-00129621 Corps research to request funding for +A0s59i6j9mY-00525-00129622-00129789 research into what they referred to as +A0s59i6j9mY-00526-00129790-00130140 jet propulsion a term chosen to avoid +A0s59i6j9mY-00527-00130141-00130368 the stigma attached to rocketry the +A0s59i6j9mY-00528-00130369-00130545 military were interested in jet +A0s59i6j9mY-00529-00130546-00130692 propulsion as a means of getting +A0s59i6j9mY-00530-00130693-00130910 aircraft quickly airborne where there +A0s59i6j9mY-00531-00130911-00131094 was insufficient room for a full-length +A0s59i6j9mY-00532-00131095-00131289 runway and gave the rocket research +A0s59i6j9mY-00533-00131290-00131478 group one thousand dollars to put +A0s59i6j9mY-00534-00131479-00131640 together a proposal on the feasibility +A0s59i6j9mY-00535-00131641-00131925 of jet-assisted takeoff jato by June +A0s59i6j9mY-00536-00131926-00132288 1939 making Parsons at all the first US +A0s59i6j9mY-00537-00132289-00132471 government sanctioned rocket research +A0s59i6j9mY-00538-00132472-00132843 group since their formation in 1934 they +A0s59i6j9mY-00539-00132844-00133071 had also performed experiments involving +A0s59i6j9mY-00540-00133072-00133266 model black-powder motor propelled +A0s59i6j9mY-00541-00133267-00133569 multistage rockets in a research paper +A0s59i6j9mY-00542-00133570-00133788 submitted to the American Institute of +A0s59i6j9mY-00543-00133789-00134022 Aeronautics and Astronautics AIAA +A0s59i6j9mY-00544-00134023-00134289 Parsons reported these Rockets reaching +A0s59i6j9mY-00545-00134290-00134652 velocities of 4875 miles per hour +A0s59i6j9mY-00546-00134653-00134886 thereby demonstrating the potential of +A0s59i6j9mY-00547-00134887-00135081 solid fuels to be more effective than +A0s59i6j9mY-00548-00135082-00135309 the liquid types primarily preferred by +A0s59i6j9mY-00549-00135310-00135474 researchers such as Goddard +A0s59i6j9mY-00550-00135475-00135753 in light of this progress Caltech and +A0s59i6j9mY-00551-00135754-00136061 the GLC IT group received an additional +A0s59i6j9mY-00552-00136062-00136338 $10,000 rocketry research grant from the +A0s59i6j9mY-00553-00136339-00136539 AIA a although a quarter of their +A0s59i6j9mY-00554-00136540-00136737 funding went to repairing damage to +A0s59i6j9mY-00555-00136738-00136917 Caltech buildings caused by their +A0s59i6j9mY-00556-00136918-00137202 experiments in June 1940 they submitted +A0s59i6j9mY-00557-00137203-00137406 a report to the NAS in which they showed +A0s59i6j9mY-00558-00137407-00137601 the feasibility of the project for the +A0s59i6j9mY-00559-00137602-00137831 development of jato and requested +A0s59i6j9mY-00560-00137832-00138095 $100,000 to continue they received +A0s59i6j9mY-00561-00138096-00138492 22,000 dollars now known as GA LC IT +A0s59i6j9mY-00562-00138493-00138747 project number one they continued to be +A0s59i6j9mY-00563-00138748-00138996 ostracized by other Caltech scientists +A0s59i6j9mY-00564-00138997-00139209 who grew increasingly irritated by their +A0s59i6j9mY-00565-00139210-00139407 accidents and noise pollution and were +A0s59i6j9mY-00566-00139408-00139611 forced to relocate their experiments +A0s59i6j9mY-00567-00139612-00139842 back to the Arroyo Seco at a site with +A0s59i6j9mY-00568-00139843-00140073 unventilated corrugated iron sheds that +A0s59i6j9mY-00569-00140074-00140237 served as both research for +A0s59i6j9mY-00570-00140238-00140516 Sylla T's and administrative offices it +A0s59i6j9mY-00571-00140517-00140735 was here that JPL would be founded +A0s59i6j9mY-00572-00140736-00140957 Parsons and Foreman's rocket experiments +A0s59i6j9mY-00573-00140958-00141254 were the cover story of the August 1940 +A0s59i6j9mY-00574-00141255-00141467 edition of Popular Mechanics in which +A0s59i6j9mY-00575-00141468-00141644 the pair discussed the prospect of +A0s59i6j9mY-00576-00141645-00141842 rockets being able to ascend above +A0s59i6j9mY-00577-00141843-00142046 Earth's atmosphere in orbit around it +A0s59i6j9mY-00578-00142047-00142232 for research purposes as well as +A0s59i6j9mY-00579-00142233-00142541 reaching the moon for the jato project +A0s59i6j9mY-00580-00142542-00142688 they were joined by Caltech +A0s59i6j9mY-00581-00142689-00142934 mathematician Martin Sommerfeld and 18 +A0s59i6j9mY-00582-00142935-00143102 workers supplied by the Works Progress +A0s59i6j9mY-00583-00143103-00143426 Administration former colleagues like +A0s59i6j9mY-00584-00143427-00143585 Cheyenne were prevented from returning +A0s59i6j9mY-00585-00143586-00143816 to the project by the Federal Bureau of +A0s59i6j9mY-00586-00143817-00144086 Investigation FBI who ensured the +A0s59i6j9mY-00587-00144087-00144305 secrecy of the operation and restricted +A0s59i6j9mY-00588-00144306-00144512 the involvement of foreign nationals and +A0s59i6j9mY-00589-00144513-00144818 political extremists the FBI was +A0s59i6j9mY-00590-00144819-00145061 satisfied that Parsons was not a Marxist +A0s59i6j9mY-00591-00145062-00145268 but were concerned when fella my friend +A0s59i6j9mY-00592-00145269-00145481 Paul Steckler used Parsons gun in a +A0s59i6j9mY-00593-00145482-00145715 drunken car hijacking for which Sechler +A0s59i6j9mY-00594-00145716-00145910 was imprisoned in San Quentin State +A0s59i6j9mY-00595-00145911-00146207 Prison for two years Englishman George +A0s59i6j9mY-00596-00146208-00146417 Emerson replaced Arnold as the group's +A0s59i6j9mY-00597-00146418-00146624 official photographer the group's aim +A0s59i6j9mY-00598-00146625-00146777 was to find a replacement for +A0s59i6j9mY-00599-00146778-00147032 black-powder rocket motors units +A0s59i6j9mY-00600-00147033-00147242 consisting of charcoal sulfur and +A0s59i6j9mY-00601-00147243-00147457 potassium nitrate with a binding agent +A0s59i6j9mY-00602-00147458-00147731 the mixture was unstable and there were +A0s59i6j9mY-00603-00147732-00147971 frequent explosions damaging military +A0s59i6j9mY-00604-00147972-00148304 aircraft the solid jato fuel invented by +A0s59i6j9mY-00605-00148305-00148595 Parsons consisted of amide cornstarch an +A0s59i6j9mY-00606-00148596-00148814 ammonium nitrate bound together in the +A0s59i6j9mY-00607-00148815-00149035 jato unit with glue and blotting paper +A0s59i6j9mY-00608-00149036-00149483 it was codenamed GA L CIT 27 implying +A0s59i6j9mY-00609-00149484-00149720 the previous invention of twenty-six new +A0s59i6j9mY-00610-00149721-00150041 fuels the first jato tests using an ER +A0s59i6j9mY-00611-00150042-00150293 Co ercoupe plane took place in late July +A0s59i6j9mY-00612-00150294-00150575 1941 though they aided propulsion the +A0s59i6j9mY-00613-00150576-00150794 units frequently exploded and damaged +A0s59i6j9mY-00614-00150795-00151100 the aircraft Parsons theorized that this +A0s59i6j9mY-00615-00151101-00151310 was because the ammonium nitrate became +A0s59i6j9mY-00616-00151311-00151505 dangerously combustible following +A0s59i6j9mY-00617-00151506-00151661 overnight storage during which +A0s59i6j9mY-00618-00151662-00151895 temperature and consistency changes had +A0s59i6j9mY-00619-00151896-00152210 resulted in a chemical imbalance parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00620-00152211-00152417 and molina accordingly devised a method +A0s59i6j9mY-00621-00152418-00152660 in which they would fill the j8 eos with +A0s59i6j9mY-00622-00152661-00152867 the fuel in the early mornings shortly +A0s59i6j9mY-00623-00152868-00153047 before the tests and during sleep +A0s59i6j9mY-00624-00153048-00153497 deprivation to do so on August 21st 1941 +A0s59i6j9mY-00625-00153498-00153641 Navy captain +A0s59i6j9mY-00626-00153642-00153974 J boshi jr. watched by Clark Milliken +A0s59i6j9mY-00627-00153975-00154235 and William F Durant piloted the jato +A0s59i6j9mY-00628-00154236-00154472 equipt ercoupe at March Air Force Base +A0s59i6j9mY-00629-00154473-00154808 in Moreno Valley California it proved a +A0s59i6j9mY-00630-00154809-00155039 success and reduced takeoff distance by +A0s59i6j9mY-00631-00155040-00155273 30 percent but one of the j8 EOS +A0s59i6j9mY-00632-00155274-00155537 partially exploded over the following +A0s59i6j9mY-00633-00155538-00155846 week 62 further tests took place and the +A0s59i6j9mY-00634-00155847-00156226 NAS increased their grant to $125,000 +A0s59i6j9mY-00635-00156227-00156515 during a series of static experiments +A0s59i6j9mY-00636-00156516-00156731 and exploding jato did significant +A0s59i6j9mY-00637-00156732-00156938 damage to the rear fuselage of an Air +A0s59i6j9mY-00638-00156939-00157172 coupe one observer optimistically noted +A0s59i6j9mY-00639-00157173-00157463 that at least it wasn't a big hole but +A0s59i6j9mY-00640-00157464-00157676 necessary repairs delayed their efforts +A0s59i6j9mY-00641-00157677-00157919 the military ordered a flight test using +A0s59i6j9mY-00642-00157920-00158147 liquid rather than solid fuel in early +A0s59i6j9mY-00643-00158148-00158513 1942 upon the United States entry into +A0s59i6j9mY-00644-00158514-00158813 the second world war in December 1941 +A0s59i6j9mY-00645-00158814-00159047 the group realized they could be drafted +A0s59i6j9mY-00646-00159048-00159257 directly into military service if they +A0s59i6j9mY-00647-00159258-00159440 failed to provide viable jeido +A0s59i6j9mY-00648-00159441-00159758 technology for the military informed by +A0s59i6j9mY-00649-00159759-00159962 their left-wing politics aiding the war +A0s59i6j9mY-00650-00159963-00160202 effort against Nazi Germany and the Axis +A0s59i6j9mY-00651-00160203-00160433 powers was as much of a moral vocation +A0s59i6j9mY-00652-00160434-00160676 to Parsons Forman and Molina as it was a +A0s59i6j9mY-00653-00160677-00160904 practical one Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00654-00160905-00161168 Sommerfeld and the G ALC IT workers +A0s59i6j9mY-00655-00161169-00161381 focused on the task and found success +A0s59i6j9mY-00656-00161382-00161633 with a combination of gasoline with red +A0s59i6j9mY-00657-00161634-00161891 fuming nitric acid as its oxidizer the +A0s59i6j9mY-00658-00161892-00162110 latter suggested by Parsons was an +A0s59i6j9mY-00659-00162111-00162322 effective substitute for liquid oxygen +A0s59i6j9mY-00660-00162323-00162605 the testing of this fuel resulted in +A0s59i6j9mY-00661-00162606-00162827 another calamity when the testing rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00662-00162828-00163067 motor exploded the fire containing iron +A0s59i6j9mY-00663-00163068-00163319 shed fragments and shrapnel inexplicably +A0s59i6j9mY-00664-00163320-00163532 left the experimenters unscathed +A0s59i6j9mY-00665-00163533-00163784 Molina solved the problem by replacing +A0s59i6j9mY-00666-00163785-00164048 the gasoline with aniline resulting in a +A0s59i6j9mY-00667-00164049-00164228 successful test launch of a jato +A0s59i6j9mY-00668-00164229-00164468 equipped a 208 plane at the Merrik +A0s59i6j9mY-00669-00164469-00164707 auxiliary airfield in the Mojave Desert +A0s59i6j9mY-00670-00164708-00165017 it provided five times more thrust than +A0s59i6j9mY-00671-00165018-00165380 G al CI t 27 and again reduced takeoff +A0s59i6j9mY-00672-00165381-00165542 distance by 30% +A0s59i6j9mY-00673-00165543-00165773 Molina wrote to his parents that we now +A0s59i6j9mY-00674-00165774-00165998 have something that really works and we +A0s59i6j9mY-00675-00165999-00166229 should be able to help give the fascists +A0s59i6j9mY-00676-00166230-00166400 hell +A0s59i6j9mY-00677-00166401-00166625 the group then agreed to produce and +A0s59i6j9mY-00678-00166626-00166862 sell 60 jato engines to the United +A0s59i6j9mY-00679-00166863-00167147 States Army Air Corps to do so they +A0s59i6j9mY-00680-00167148-00167318 formed the Aerojet engineering +A0s59i6j9mY-00681-00167319-00167612 corporation in march 1942 in which +A0s59i6j9mY-00682-00167613-00167684 parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00683-00167685-00167965 foreman molina von Karman and Sommerfeld +A0s59i6j9mY-00684-00167966-00168314 each invested $250 opening their offices +A0s59i6j9mY-00685-00168315-00168529 on Colorado Boulevard and bringing in +A0s59i6j9mY-00686-00168530-00168824 almost Smith as their engineer Andrew G +A0s59i6j9mY-00687-00168825-00169052 Haley was recruited by von Karman as +A0s59i6j9mY-00688-00169053-00169289 their lawyer and treasurer although +A0s59i6j9mY-00689-00169290-00169540 Aerojet was a for-profit operation that +A0s59i6j9mY-00690-00169541-00169769 provided technology for military means +A0s59i6j9mY-00691-00169770-00170000 the founders mentality was rooted in the +A0s59i6j9mY-00692-00170001-00170207 ideal of using rockets for peaceful +A0s59i6j9mY-00693-00170208-00170537 space exploration as Haley recounted von +A0s59i6j9mY-00694-00170538-00170750 Karman requesting we will make the +A0s59i6j9mY-00695-00170751-00171035 Rockets you must make the corporation +A0s59i6j9mY-00696-00171036-00171340 and obtain the money later on you will +A0s59i6j9mY-00697-00171341-00171575 have to see that we all behave well in +A0s59i6j9mY-00698-00171576-00171850 outer space despite these successes +A0s59i6j9mY-00699-00171851-00172153 Parsons the project engineer of Aerojet +A0s59i6j9mY-00700-00172154-00172400 solid fuel department remained motivated +A0s59i6j9mY-00701-00172401-00172586 to address the malfunctions observed +A0s59i6j9mY-00702-00172587-00172949 during the ercoupe tests in June 1942 +A0s59i6j9mY-00703-00172950-00173219 assisted by Mills and Miller he focused +A0s59i6j9mY-00704-00173220-00173408 his attention on developing an effective +A0s59i6j9mY-00705-00173409-00173636 method of restricted burning when using +A0s59i6j9mY-00706-00173637-00173837 solid rocket fuel as the military +A0s59i6j9mY-00707-00173838-00174119 demanded J Atos that could provide over +A0s59i6j9mY-00708-00174120-00174368 100 pounds of thrust without any risk of +A0s59i6j9mY-00709-00174369-00174656 exploding although solid fuels such as +A0s59i6j9mY-00710-00174657-00175001 GA L CIT 27 were more storable than +A0s59i6j9mY-00711-00175002-00175153 their liquid counterparts they were +A0s59i6j9mY-00712-00175154-00175403 disfavored for military jato use as they +A0s59i6j9mY-00713-00175404-00175610 provided less immediate thrust and did +A0s59i6j9mY-00714-00175611-00175808 not have the versatility of being turned +A0s59i6j9mY-00715-00175809-00176104 on and off mid-flight Parsons tried to +A0s59i6j9mY-00716-00176105-00176489 resolve GA L CIT 27 stability issue with +A0s59i6j9mY-00717-00176490-00176843 GA L CIT 46 which replaced the former's +A0s59i6j9mY-00718-00176844-00177065 ammonium nitrate with guanidine nitrate +A0s59i6j9mY-00719-00177066-00177368 to avoid the problems seen with ammonium +A0s59i6j9mY-00720-00177369-00177431 nitrate +A0s59i6j9mY-00721-00177432-00177761 he had GA L CIT 46 cooled and then +A0s59i6j9mY-00722-00177762-00178037 heated prior to testing when it failed +A0s59i6j9mY-00723-00178038-00178238 the test he realized that the fuels +A0s59i6j9mY-00724-00178239-00178439 binding black powders rather than the +A0s59i6j9mY-00725-00178440-00178622 oxidizers had resulted in their +A0s59i6j9mY-00726-00178623-00178835 instability and in June that year had +A0s59i6j9mY-00727-00178836-00179063 the idea of using liquid asphalt as an +A0s59i6j9mY-00728-00179064-00179290 appropriate binding agent with potassium +A0s59i6j9mY-00729-00179291-00179627 perchlorate as oxidizer Molina recounted +A0s59i6j9mY-00730-00179628-00179719 that Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00731-00179720-00179950 inspired to use asphalt by the ancient +A0s59i6j9mY-00732-00179951-00180247 incendiary weapon Greek fire in a 1982 +A0s59i6j9mY-00733-00180248-00180438 talk for the International Association +A0s59i6j9mY-00734-00180439-00180700 of astronomical artists captain Bo she +A0s59i6j9mY-00735-00180701-00180922 stated that parsons experienced an +A0s59i6j9mY-00736-00180923-00181144 epiphany after watching workers using +A0s59i6j9mY-00737-00181145-00181400 molten asphalt to fix tiles onto a roof +A0s59i6j9mY-00738-00181401-00181863 known as GA l CIT 53 this fuel proved to +A0s59i6j9mY-00739-00181864-00182056 be significantly more stable than the +A0s59i6j9mY-00740-00182057-00182272 group's earlier concoctions fulfilling +A0s59i6j9mY-00741-00182273-00182494 Parsons aim of creating a restricted +A0s59i6j9mY-00742-00182495-00182710 burn rocket fuel inside a castable +A0s59i6j9mY-00743-00182711-00183027 container and providing a thrust 427 +A0s59i6j9mY-00744-00183028-00183256 percent more powerful than that of GA L +A0s59i6j9mY-00745-00183257-00183600 CIT 27 this set a precedent which +A0s59i6j9mY-00746-00183601-00183840 according to his biographer John Carter +A0s59i6j9mY-00747-00183841-00184083 changed the future of rocket technology +A0s59i6j9mY-00748-00184084-00184389 the thermoplastic asphalt casting was +A0s59i6j9mY-00749-00184390-00184602 durable in all climates allowing for +A0s59i6j9mY-00750-00184603-00184798 mass production and indefinite storage +A0s59i6j9mY-00751-00184799-00185047 and transforming solid fuel agents into +A0s59i6j9mY-00752-00185048-00185245 a safe and viable form of rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00753-00185246-00185524 propulsion plasticized variants of +A0s59i6j9mY-00754-00185525-00185763 parsons solid fuel design invented by +A0s59i6j9mY-00755-00185764-00186025 JPL's Charles Bartley were later used by +A0s59i6j9mY-00756-00186026-00186208 NASA in space shuttles solid rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-00757-00186209-00186414 boosters and by the Strategic Air +A0s59i6j9mY-00758-00186415-00186603 Command in Polaris Poseidon and +A0s59i6j9mY-00759-00186604-00186772 Minuteman intercontinental ballistic +A0s59i6j9mY-00760-00186773-00187334 missiles +A0s59i6j9mY-00761-00187335-00187694 topic foundation of JPL and leading the +A0s59i6j9mY-00762-00187695-00188371 agape Lodge 1942 to 44 +A0s59i6j9mY-00763-00188372-00188674 arrow Jets first two contracts were from +A0s59i6j9mY-00764-00188675-00188889 the US Navy the Bureau of Aeronautics +A0s59i6j9mY-00765-00188890-00189162 requested a solid fuel jato and Wilbur +A0s59i6j9mY-00766-00189163-00189363 Wright field requested a liquid fuel +A0s59i6j9mY-00767-00189364-00189658 unit the Air Corps had requested two +A0s59i6j9mY-00768-00189659-00189922 thousand J Atos from Aerojet by late +A0s59i6j9mY-00769-00189923-00190411 1943 committing $256,000 toward parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00770-00190412-00190536 solid fuel type +A0s59i6j9mY-00771-00190537-00190771 despite this drastically increased +A0s59i6j9mY-00772-00190772-00190957 turnover the company continued to +A0s59i6j9mY-00773-00190958-00191136 operate informally and remained +A0s59i6j9mY-00774-00191137-00191448 intertwined with the G ALC IT project +A0s59i6j9mY-00775-00191449-00191712 Caltech astronomer Fritz Zwicky was +A0s59i6j9mY-00776-00191713-00191860 brought in as head of the company's +A0s59i6j9mY-00777-00191861-00192165 research department Halley replaced von +A0s59i6j9mY-00778-00192166-00192385 Karman as Aerojet chairman and imposed +A0s59i6j9mY-00779-00192386-00192615 payroll cuts instead of reducing jato +A0s59i6j9mY-00780-00192616-00192849 output the alternative was to cut staff +A0s59i6j9mY-00781-00192850-00193057 numbers while maintaining more generous +A0s59i6j9mY-00782-00193058-00193287 salaries but Haley's priority was Aero +A0s59i6j9mY-00783-00193288-00193506 jets contribution to the war effort +A0s59i6j9mY-00784-00193507-00193771 company heads including Parsons were +A0s59i6j9mY-00785-00193772-00193993 exempted from this austerity drawing the +A0s59i6j9mY-00786-00193994-00194226 ire of many personnel Parsons newfound +A0s59i6j9mY-00787-00194227-00194463 credentials and financial security gave +A0s59i6j9mY-00788-00194464-00194652 him the opportunity to travel more +A0s59i6j9mY-00789-00194653-00194829 widely throughout the US as an +A0s59i6j9mY-00790-00194830-00195027 ambassador for Aerojet meeting with +A0s59i6j9mY-00791-00195028-00195336 other rocket enthusiasts in New York he +A0s59i6j9mY-00792-00195337-00195453 met with Carl Germer +A0s59i6j9mY-00793-00195454-00195711 the head of the OTO in North America and +A0s59i6j9mY-00794-00195712-00195970 in Washington DC he met poet laureate +A0s59i6j9mY-00795-00195971-00196164 Joseph al slender donating some of +A0s59i6j9mY-00796-00196165-00196393 Crowley's poetry books to the Library of +A0s59i6j9mY-00797-00196394-00196716 Congress he also became a regular at the +A0s59i6j9mY-00798-00196717-00196936 manana literary society which met in +A0s59i6j9mY-00799-00196937-00197146 Laurel Canyon at the home of Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00800-00197147-00197364 friend Robert a Heinlein and included +A0s59i6j9mY-00801-00197365-00197586 science fiction writers including Cleve +A0s59i6j9mY-00802-00197587-00197821 cardinal Jack Williamson and Anthony +A0s59i6j9mY-00803-00197822-00198118 Busha among Parsons favorite works of +A0s59i6j9mY-00804-00198119-00198331 fiction was Williamson's darker than you +A0s59i6j9mY-00805-00198332-00198366 think +A0s59i6j9mY-00806-00198367-00198535 a novelette published in the fantasy +A0s59i6j9mY-00807-00198536-00198844 magazine unknown in 1940 which inspired +A0s59i6j9mY-00808-00198845-00199144 his later occult workings Boucher used +A0s59i6j9mY-00809-00199145-00199357 Parsons as a partial basis for the +A0s59i6j9mY-00810-00199358-00199549 character of Hugo chantrelle in his +A0s59i6j9mY-00811-00199550-00199739 murder mystery rocket through the morgue +A0s59i6j9mY-00812-00199740-00200056 1942 Helen went away for a period in +A0s59i6j9mY-00813-00200057-00200323 June 1941 during which Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00814-00200324-00200538 encouraged to do so by the sexually +A0s59i6j9mY-00815-00200539-00200790 permissive attitude of the OTO began a +A0s59i6j9mY-00816-00200791-00201063 sexual relationship with her 17 year old +A0s59i6j9mY-00817-00201064-00201411 sister Sarah upon Helens return Sarah +A0s59i6j9mY-00818-00201412-00201627 asserted that she was Parsons new wife +A0s59i6j9mY-00819-00201628-00201727 and Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00820-00201728-00201940 self-admitted that he found sarah more +A0s59i6j9mY-00821-00201941-00202152 sexually attractive than Helen +A0s59i6j9mY-00822-00202153-00202345 conflicted in her feelings +A0s59i6j9mY-00823-00202346-00202561 Helen sought comfort in Smith and began +A0s59i6j9mY-00824-00202562-00202780 a relationship with him that lasted for +A0s59i6j9mY-00825-00202781-00202969 the rest of his life the four remained +A0s59i6j9mY-00826-00202970-00203248 friends the two couples along with a +A0s59i6j9mY-00827-00203249-00203458 number of other that whites some of whom +A0s59i6j9mY-00828-00203459-00203743 with their children moved to 1003 South +A0s59i6j9mY-00829-00203744-00203953 Orange Grove Avenue an American +A0s59i6j9mY-00830-00203954-00204217 Craftsman style mansion they all +A0s59i6j9mY-00831-00204218-00204472 contributed to the rent of $100 a month +A0s59i6j9mY-00832-00204473-00204679 and lived communally in what replaced +A0s59i6j9mY-00833-00204680-00204891 Winona Boulevard as the new base of the +A0s59i6j9mY-00834-00204892-00205126 agape Lodge maintaining an allotment and +A0s59i6j9mY-00835-00205127-00205300 slaughtering their own livestock for +A0s59i6j9mY-00836-00205301-00205588 meat as well as blood rituals Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00837-00205589-00205798 decorated his new room with a copy of +A0s59i6j9mY-00838-00205798-00206035 the steel of revealing a statue of pan +A0s59i6j9mY-00839-00206036-00206244 and his collection of swords and daggers +A0s59i6j9mY-00840-00206244-00206514 he converted the garage and laundry room +A0s59i6j9mY-00841-00206515-00206755 into a chemical laboratory and often +A0s59i6j9mY-00842-00206756-00206971 held science fiction discussion meetings +A0s59i6j9mY-00843-00206971-00207136 in the kitchen and entertained the +A0s59i6j9mY-00844-00207137-00207315 children with hunts for fairies in the +A0s59i6j9mY-00845-00207316-00207631 25 acre garden although there were +A0s59i6j9mY-00846-00207632-00207802 arguments among the commune members +A0s59i6j9mY-00847-00207803-00208057 Parsons remained dedicated to Thelema +A0s59i6j9mY-00848-00208058-00208341 he gave almost all of his salary to the +A0s59i6j9mY-00849-00208342-00208576 OTO while actively seeking out new +A0s59i6j9mY-00850-00208577-00208812 members including foremen and +A0s59i6j9mY-00851-00208813-00209067 financially supported Crowley in London +A0s59i6j9mY-00852-00209069-00209165 through Germer +A0s59i6j9mY-00853-00209166-00209461 Parsons enthusiasm for the lodge quickly +A0s59i6j9mY-00854-00209462-00209688 began to impact on his professional life +A0s59i6j9mY-00855-00209689-00209926 he frequently appeared at Aerojet +A0s59i6j9mY-00856-00209927-00210151 hungover and sleep-deprived from late +A0s59i6j9mY-00857-00210152-00210361 nights of Lodge activities and invited +A0s59i6j9mY-00858-00210362-00210544 many of his colleagues to them drawing +A0s59i6j9mY-00859-00210544-00210709 the ire of staff who previously +A0s59i6j9mY-00860-00210710-00210958 tolerated Parsons occultism as harmless +A0s59i6j9mY-00861-00210959-00211191 eccentricity known to von Karman as a +A0s59i6j9mY-00862-00211192-00211477 delightful screwball he was frequently +A0s59i6j9mY-00863-00211478-00211762 observed reciting Crowley's poem him to +A0s59i6j9mY-00864-00211763-00212041 pan in an ecstatic manner compared to +A0s59i6j9mY-00865-00212042-00212196 the preaching of Billy Graham during +A0s59i6j9mY-00866-00212198-00212473 rocket tests and on request at parties +A0s59i6j9mY-00867-00212473-00212677 to their great amusement they +A0s59i6j9mY-00868-00212678-00212898 disapproved of his hesitancy to separate +A0s59i6j9mY-00869-00212900-00213109 his vocations Parsons became more +A0s59i6j9mY-00870-00213110-00213286 rigorously engaged in aero jets +A0s59i6j9mY-00871-00213287-00213463 day-to-day business in an effort to +A0s59i6j9mY-00872-00213464-00213676 resolve this weariness but the agape +A0s59i6j9mY-00873-00213677-00213907 Lodge soon came under investigation by +A0s59i6j9mY-00874-00213908-00214126 both the Pasadena Police Department and +A0s59i6j9mY-00875-00214127-00214456 the FBI both had received allegations of +A0s59i6j9mY-00876-00214457-00214792 a black magic cult involved in sexual +A0s59i6j9mY-00877-00214792-00215059 orgies one complainant was a 16 year old +A0s59i6j9mY-00878-00215060-00215113 boy who +A0s59i6j9mY-00879-00215114-00215284 said that he was raped by Lodge members +A0s59i6j9mY-00880-00215285-00215482 while neighbors reported a ritual +A0s59i6j9mY-00881-00215483-00215713 involving a naked pregnant woman jumping +A0s59i6j9mY-00882-00215714-00215992 through fire after Parsons explained +A0s59i6j9mY-00883-00215992-00216150 that the lodge was simply an +A0s59i6j9mY-00884-00216151-00216423 organization dedicated to religious and +A0s59i6j9mY-00885-00216425-00216613 philosophical speculation +A0s59i6j9mY-00886-00216614-00216877 neither agency found evidence of illegal +A0s59i6j9mY-00887-00216878-00217096 activity and came to the conclusion that +A0s59i6j9mY-00888-00217096-00217309 the lodge constituted no threat to +A0s59i6j9mY-00889-00217310-00217431 national security +A0s59i6j9mY-00890-00217432-00217702 having been a long-term heavy user of +A0s59i6j9mY-00891-00217703-00217915 alcohol and marijuana parsons now +A0s59i6j9mY-00892-00217916-00218158 habitually used cocaine amphetamines +A0s59i6j9mY-00893-00218159-00218517 peyote mescaline and opiates as well he +A0s59i6j9mY-00894-00218519-00218728 continued to have sexual relations with +A0s59i6j9mY-00895-00218729-00218950 multiple women including McMurtry's +A0s59i6j9mY-00896-00218951-00219267 fiancee Clare when Parsons paid for her +A0s59i6j9mY-00897-00219269-00219369 to have an abortion +A0s59i6j9mY-00898-00219371-00219532 McMurtry was angered and their +A0s59i6j9mY-00899-00219533-00219856 friendship broke down Crowley and Germer +A0s59i6j9mY-00900-00219857-00220069 wanted to see Smith removed as head of +A0s59i6j9mY-00901-00220069-00220279 the agape Lodge believing that he had +A0s59i6j9mY-00902-00220280-00220527 become a bad influence on its members +A0s59i6j9mY-00903-00220528-00220762 Parsons and Helen wrote to them to +A0s59i6j9mY-00904-00220763-00220963 defend their mentor but Germer ordered +A0s59i6j9mY-00905-00220964-00221200 him to stand down Parsons was appointed +A0s59i6j9mY-00906-00221201-00221458 as temporary head of the lodge some +A0s59i6j9mY-00907-00221459-00221677 veteran Lodge members disliked Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00908-00221678-00221875 influence concerns that it encouraged +A0s59i6j9mY-00909-00221876-00222100 excessive sexual polyandry that was +A0s59i6j9mY-00910-00222101-00222271 religiously detrimental but his +A0s59i6j9mY-00911-00222271-00222439 charismatic orations at Lodge meetings +A0s59i6j9mY-00912-00222440-00222669 assured his popularity among the +A0s59i6j9mY-00913-00222671-00222825 majority of followers +A0s59i6j9mY-00914-00222826-00223063 Parsons soon created the phthalimide +A0s59i6j9mY-00915-00223064-00223237 Journal aura phlegm in which he +A0s59i6j9mY-00916-00223238-00223471 published his own poetry but Crowley was +A0s59i6j9mY-00917-00223471-00223753 unimpressed particularly due to Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-00918-00223754-00224026 descriptions of drug use and the project +A0s59i6j9mY-00919-00224027-00224287 was soon shelved Helen gave birth to +A0s59i6j9mY-00920-00224288-00224536 Smith's son in April the child was named +A0s59i6j9mY-00921-00224537-00224779 Quinn lanville Parsons Smith and Helen +A0s59i6j9mY-00922-00224780-00225004 left with Quinn for a two-room cabin in +A0s59i6j9mY-00923-00225005-00225294 rainbow valley in May concurrently in +A0s59i6j9mY-00924-00225296-00225463 England Crowley undertook an +A0s59i6j9mY-00925-00225464-00225691 astrological analysis of Smith's birth +A0s59i6j9mY-00926-00225692-00225871 chart and came to the conclusion that +A0s59i6j9mY-00927-00225871-00226075 Smith was the incarnation of a God +A0s59i6j9mY-00928-00226076-00226308 greatly altering his estimation of him +A0s59i6j9mY-00929-00226309-00226588 Smith remains skeptical as Crowley's +A0s59i6j9mY-00930-00226589-00226783 analysis was seemingly deliberately +A0s59i6j9mY-00931-00226784-00227029 devised in Parsons favour encouraging +A0s59i6j9mY-00932-00227030-00227244 Smith to step down from his role in the +A0s59i6j9mY-00933-00227246-00227461 agape Lodge and instructing him to take +A0s59i6j9mY-00934-00227462-00227740 a meditative retreat refusing to take +A0s59i6j9mY-00935-00227741-00227914 orders from Germer anymore +A0s59i6j9mY-00936-00227915-00228307 Smith resigned from the OTO Parsons who +A0s59i6j9mY-00937-00228308-00228453 remains sympathetic and +A0s59i6j9mY-00938-00228454-00228645 friendly to Smith during the conflict +A0s59i6j9mY-00939-00228646-00228865 and was weary of Crowley's appalling +A0s59i6j9mY-00940-00228866-00229131 egotism bad taste bad judgment and +A0s59i6j9mY-00941-00229132-00229476 pedantic ISM ceased lodge activities and +A0s59i6j9mY-00942-00229477-00229659 resigned as its head but withdrew his +A0s59i6j9mY-00943-00229660-00229891 resignation after receiving a pacifying +A0s59i6j9mY-00944-00229892-00230331 letter from Crowley by mid-1943 Aerojet +A0s59i6j9mY-00945-00230332-00230658 was operating on a budget of $650,000 +A0s59i6j9mY-00946-00230659-00230958 the same year Parsons and von Karman +A0s59i6j9mY-00947-00230959-00231135 traveled to Norfolk Virginia on the +A0s59i6j9mY-00948-00231136-00231337 invitation of Secretary of the Navy +A0s59i6j9mY-00949-00231338-00231555 Frank Knox to consult on a new jeido +A0s59i6j9mY-00950-00231556-00231933 contract for the US Navy though J Atos +A0s59i6j9mY-00951-00231934-00232143 were being mass-produced for military +A0s59i6j9mY-00952-00232144-00232380 applications jato propelled aircraft +A0s59i6j9mY-00953-00232381-00232632 could not keep up with larger bomber +A0s59i6j9mY-00954-00232633-00232869 planes taking off from long aircraft +A0s59i6j9mY-00955-00232870-00233137 carrier runways which made Aero Jets +A0s59i6j9mY-00956-00233138-00233372 industry at risk of becoming defunct +A0s59i6j9mY-00957-00233373-00233649 Parsons demonstrated the efficacy of the +A0s59i6j9mY-00958-00233650-00233907 newer j8 EOS to solve this issue by +A0s59i6j9mY-00959-00233908-00234102 equipping a Grumman plane with solid +A0s59i6j9mY-00960-00234103-00234183 fuel units +A0s59i6j9mY-00961-00234184-00234396 it's assisted takeoff from the USS +A0s59i6j9mY-00962-00234397-00234600 charger was successful but produced +A0s59i6j9mY-00963-00234601-00234801 smoke containing a noxious yellow +A0s59i6j9mY-00964-00234802-00235068 colored residue the Navy guaranteed +A0s59i6j9mY-00965-00235069-00235281 Parsons a contract on the condition that +A0s59i6j9mY-00966-00235282-00235513 this residue was removed this led to the +A0s59i6j9mY-00967-00235514-00235758 invention of arrow flex a technology for +A0s59i6j9mY-00968-00235759-00235959 smokeless vapor trails developed at +A0s59i6j9mY-00969-00235960-00236202 Aerojet by parsons as the u.s. became +A0s59i6j9mY-00970-00236203-00236430 aware that nazi germany had developed +A0s59i6j9mY-00971-00236431-00236721 the v2 rocket the military following +A0s59i6j9mY-00972-00236722-00236938 recommendations from von Karman based +A0s59i6j9mY-00973-00236939-00237165 upon research using British intelligence +A0s59i6j9mY-00974-00237166-00237420 placed a renewed impetus on its own +A0s59i6j9mY-00975-00237421-00237666 rocket research reinstating G an to the +A0s59i6j9mY-00976-00237667-00238023 G ALC IT project they gave the group of +A0s59i6j9mY-00977-00238024-00238200 three million dollars grants to develop +A0s59i6j9mY-00978-00238201-00238428 rocket based weapons and the group was +A0s59i6j9mY-00979-00238429-00238593 expanded and renamed the Jet Propulsion +A0s59i6j9mY-00980-00238594-00238990 Laboratory JPL by this point the Navy +A0s59i6j9mY-00981-00238991-00239298 were ordering 20,000 J Atos a month from +A0s59i6j9mY-00982-00239299-00239580 Aerojet and in December 1944 Haley +A0s59i6j9mY-00983-00239581-00239901 negotiated for the company to sell 51% +A0s59i6j9mY-00984-00239902-00240096 of its stock to the General Tire and +A0s59i6j9mY-00985-00240097-00240246 Rubber Company to cope with the +A0s59i6j9mY-00986-00240247-00240528 increased demand aero Jets Caltech +A0s59i6j9mY-00987-00240529-00240841 linked employees including Zwicky molina +A0s59i6j9mY-00988-00240842-00241101 and Sommerfeld would only agree to the +A0s59i6j9mY-00989-00241102-00241312 sale on the condition that parsons and +A0s59i6j9mY-00990-00241313-00241485 foreman were removed from the company +A0s59i6j9mY-00991-00241486-00241668 viewing their occult activities as +A0s59i6j9mY-00992-00241669-00241813 disreputable +A0s59i6j9mY-00993-00241814-00242100 JPL historian Eric M Conway also +A0s59i6j9mY-00994-00242101-00242317 attributes Parsons expulsion to more +A0s59i6j9mY-00995-00242317-00242587 practical concerns he still wanted to +A0s59i6j9mY-00996-00242588-00242817 work in the same way as he'd done in his +A0s59i6j9mY-00997-00242819-00243060 backyard instinctive and without regard +A0s59i6j9mY-00998-00243061-00243378 for safety Parsons and Foreman were +A0s59i6j9mY-00999-00243379-00243582 unfazed informing Haley of their +A0s59i6j9mY-01000-00243583-00243766 prediction that the rocket industry +A0s59i6j9mY-01001-00243767-00243954 would become obsolete in the post-war +A0s59i6j9mY-01002-00243955-00244194 age and seeing more financial incentive +A0s59i6j9mY-01003-00244196-00244498 in starting a chain of laundromats Haley +A0s59i6j9mY-01004-00244498-00244666 persuaded them to sell their stock +A0s59i6j9mY-01005-00244667-00244894 resulting in Parsons leaving the company +A0s59i6j9mY-01006-00244894-00245169 with eleven thousand dollars with this +A0s59i6j9mY-01007-00245171-00245328 money he bought the least two one +A0s59i6j9mY-01008-00245329-00245523 thousand three which had come to be +A0s59i6j9mY-01009-00245525-00246196 known as the parsonage after him +A0s59i6j9mY-01010-00246196-00246505 topic l ron Hubbard and the babylon +A0s59i6j9mY-01011-00246506-00247146 working 1945-46 +A0s59i6j9mY-01012-00247148-00247456 now disassociated from JPL and Aerojet +A0s59i6j9mY-01013-00247457-00247711 Parsons and Foreman founded the ad astra +A0s59i6j9mY-01014-00247712-00247951 engineering company under which Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01015-00247952-00248131 founded the chemical manufacturing +A0s59i6j9mY-01016-00248132-00248428 Vulcan powder company ad astra was +A0s59i6j9mY-01017-00248429-00248673 subject to an FBI investigation under +A0s59i6j9mY-01018-00248675-00248902 suspicion of espionage when security +A0s59i6j9mY-01019-00248903-00249044 agents from the Manhattan Project +A0s59i6j9mY-01020-00249046-00249298 discovered that Parsons and Forman had +A0s59i6j9mY-01021-00249298-00249496 procured a chemical used in a top-secret +A0s59i6j9mY-01022-00249496-00249778 project for a material known only as X +A0s59i6j9mY-01023-00249779-00249955 metal but they were later acquitted of +A0s59i6j9mY-01024-00249956-00250056 any wrongdoing +A0s59i6j9mY-01025-00250057-00250296 Parsons continued to financially support +A0s59i6j9mY-01026-00250298-00250546 Smith and Helen although he asked for a +A0s59i6j9mY-01027-00250546-00250732 divorce from her and ignored Crowley's +A0s59i6j9mY-01028-00250733-00250948 commands by welcoming Smith back to the +A0s59i6j9mY-01029-00250948-00251171 parsonage when his retreat was finished +A0s59i6j9mY-01030-00251173-00251485 Parsons continued to hold OTO activities +A0s59i6j9mY-01031-00251486-00251694 at the parsonage but began renting rooms +A0s59i6j9mY-01032-00251696-00251860 at the house to non thell amides +A0s59i6j9mY-01033-00251861-00252061 including journalist Neeson Hamill +A0s59i6j9mY-01034-00252062-00252301 Manhattan Project physicist Robert core +A0s59i6j9mY-01035-00252302-00252502 nog and science fiction artist Lewis +A0s59i6j9mY-01036-00252503-00252769 Goldstone Parsons attracted controversy +A0s59i6j9mY-01037-00252769-00253044 in Pasadena for his preferred clientele +A0s59i6j9mY-01038-00253046-00253315 parsonage resident Alva Rogers recalled +A0s59i6j9mY-01039-00253316-00253579 in a 1962 article for an occultist +A0s59i6j9mY-01040-00253580-00253848 fanzine in the ads placed in the local +A0s59i6j9mY-01041-00253850-00254142 paper Jack specified that only Bohemians +A0s59i6j9mY-01042-00254144-00254523 artists musicians atheists anarchists or +A0s59i6j9mY-01043-00254525-00254815 any other exotic types need to apply for +A0s59i6j9mY-01044-00254816-00255087 rooms any mundane soul would be +A0s59i6j9mY-01045-00255088-00255457 unceremoniously rejected science fiction +A0s59i6j9mY-01046-00255458-00255685 writer and US Navy officer l ron hubbard +A0s59i6j9mY-01047-00255686-00255937 soon moved into the parsonage he and +A0s59i6j9mY-01048-00255938-00256237 parsons became close friends parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01049-00256238-00256419 wrote to crowley that although Hubbard +A0s59i6j9mY-01050-00256421-00256714 had no formal training in magic he has +A0s59i6j9mY-01051-00256715-00256944 an extraordinary amount of experience +A0s59i6j9mY-01052-00256946-00257257 and understanding in the field from some +A0s59i6j9mY-01053-00257258-00257491 of his experiences I deduce he has +A0s59i6j9mY-01054-00257492-00257653 direct touch with some higher +A0s59i6j9mY-01055-00257654-00258039 intelligence possibly his guardian angel +A0s59i6j9mY-01056-00258040-00258348 he is the most Philemon person I have +A0s59i6j9mY-01057-00258350-00258577 ever met and as in complete accord with +A0s59i6j9mY-01058-00258578-00258913 our own principles Parsons and Sarah +A0s59i6j9mY-01059-00258914-00259132 were in an open relationship encouraged +A0s59i6j9mY-01060-00259133-00259408 by the OT O's polyandrous sexual ethics +A0s59i6j9mY-01061-00259409-00259576 and she became enamored with Hubbard +A0s59i6j9mY-01062-00259577-00259660 Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01063-00259661-00259834 despite attempting to repress his +A0s59i6j9mY-01064-00259835-00260073 passions became intensely jealous +A0s59i6j9mY-01065-00260073-00260317 motivated to find a new partner through +A0s59i6j9mY-01066-00260317-00260523 occult means Parsons began to +A0s59i6j9mY-01067-00260525-00260713 vote his energies to conducting black +A0s59i6j9mY-01068-00260714-00260971 magic causing concern among fellow OTO +A0s59i6j9mY-01069-00260971-00261171 members who believe that it was invoking +A0s59i6j9mY-01070-00261173-00261382 troublesome spirits into the parsonage +A0s59i6j9mY-01071-00261383-00261646 Jane Wolf wrote to Crowley that our own +A0s59i6j9mY-01072-00261646-00261871 Jack is enamored with witchcraft +A0s59i6j9mY-01073-00261871-00262174 the hum firt voodoo from the start he +A0s59i6j9mY-01074-00262175-00262450 always wanted to evoke something no +A0s59i6j9mY-01075-00262451-00262675 matter what I am inclined to think as +A0s59i6j9mY-01076-00262676-00262999 long as he got a result he told the +A0s59i6j9mY-01077-00263000-00263200 residents that he was in viewing statues +A0s59i6j9mY-01078-00263201-00263398 in the house with a magical energy in +A0s59i6j9mY-01079-00263399-00263640 order to sell them to fellow uh cultists +A0s59i6j9mY-01080-00263641-00263917 Parsons reported paranormal events in +A0s59i6j9mY-01081-00263918-00264088 the house resulting from the rituals +A0s59i6j9mY-01082-00264089-00264337 including poltergeist activity sightings +A0s59i6j9mY-01083-00264338-00264514 of orbs and ghostly apparitions +A0s59i6j9mY-01084-00264515-00264727 alchemical sylph ik effect on the +A0s59i6j9mY-01085-00264728-00265012 weather and disembodied voices pendel +A0s59i6j9mY-01086-00265013-00265213 suggested that parsons was particularly +A0s59i6j9mY-01087-00265214-00265444 susceptible to these interpretations and +A0s59i6j9mY-01088-00265445-00265639 attributed the voices to a prank by +A0s59i6j9mY-01089-00265640-00265927 Hubbard and Sara one ritual allegedly +A0s59i6j9mY-01090-00265928-00266098 brought screaming banshees to the +A0s59i6j9mY-01091-00266099-00266293 windows of the parsonage an incident +A0s59i6j9mY-01092-00266294-00266476 that disturbed Foreman for the rest of +A0s59i6j9mY-01093-00266477-00266872 his life in December 1945 Parsons began +A0s59i6j9mY-01094-00266873-00267103 a series of rituals based on Enochian +A0s59i6j9mY-01095-00267104-00267316 magic during which he masturbated onto +A0s59i6j9mY-01096-00267317-00267547 magical tablets accompanied by Sergei +A0s59i6j9mY-01097-00267548-00267819 Prokofiev's second violin concerto +A0s59i6j9mY-01098-00267820-00268087 describing this magical operation as the +A0s59i6j9mY-01099-00268088-00268279 babylon working he hoped to bring about +A0s59i6j9mY-01100-00268280-00268474 the incarnation of phthalimide goddess +A0s59i6j9mY-01101-00268475-00268771 babylon onto earth he allowed hubbard to +A0s59i6j9mY-01102-00268772-00269068 take part as his scribe believing that +A0s59i6j9mY-01103-00269069-00269251 he was particularly sensitive to +A0s59i6j9mY-01104-00269252-00269518 detecting magical phenomena as described +A0s59i6j9mY-01105-00269519-00269818 by Richard Metzger Parsons jerked off in +A0s59i6j9mY-01106-00269819-00270034 the name of spiritual advancement +A0s59i6j9mY-01107-00270035-00270307 while Hubbard scanned the astral plane +A0s59i6j9mY-01108-00270308-00270649 for signs and visions their final ritual +A0s59i6j9mY-01109-00270650-00270880 took place in the Mojave Desert in late +A0s59i6j9mY-01110-00270881-00271180 February 1946 during which Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01111-00271181-00271390 abruptly decided that his undertaking +A0s59i6j9mY-01112-00271391-00271624 was complete on returning to the +A0s59i6j9mY-01113-00271625-00271822 parsonage he discovered that Marjorie +A0s59i6j9mY-01114-00271823-00272092 Cameron an unemployed illustrator and +A0s59i6j9mY-01115-00272093-00272370 former Navy wave had come to visit +A0s59i6j9mY-01116-00272371-00272713 believing her to be the elemental woman +A0s59i6j9mY-01117-00272714-00272932 and manifestation of Babylon that he had +A0s59i6j9mY-01118-00272933-00273160 invoked in early March Parsons began +A0s59i6j9mY-01119-00273161-00273370 performing sex magic rituals with +A0s59i6j9mY-01120-00273371-00273652 Cameron who acted as his scarlet woman +A0s59i6j9mY-01121-00273653-00273850 while Hubbard continued to +A0s59i6j9mY-01122-00273851-00274111 participate as the amanuensis unlike the +A0s59i6j9mY-01123-00274112-00274291 rest of the household cameron knew +A0s59i6j9mY-01124-00274292-00274495 nothing at first of parsons magical +A0s59i6j9mY-01125-00274496-00274744 intentions i didn't know anything about +A0s59i6j9mY-01126-00274745-00274996 the oto i didn't know that they had +A0s59i6j9mY-01127-00274997-00275248 invoked me i didn't know anything but +A0s59i6j9mY-01128-00275249-00275569 the whole house knew it everybody was +A0s59i6j9mY-01129-00275570-00275791 watching to see what was going on +A0s59i6j9mY-01130-00275792-00275986 despite this ignorance and her +A0s59i6j9mY-01131-00275987-00276238 skepticism about parsons magic cameron +A0s59i6j9mY-01132-00276239-00276424 reported her sighting of a UFO to +A0s59i6j9mY-01133-00276425-00276634 parsons who secretly recorded the +A0s59i6j9mY-01134-00276635-00276853 sighting as a materialization of babylon +A0s59i6j9mY-01135-00276854-00277107 inspired by Crowley's novel moonchild +A0s59i6j9mY-01136-00277108-00277369 1917 Parsons and Hubbard aimed to +A0s59i6j9mY-01137-00277370-00277618 magically fertilize a magical child +A0s59i6j9mY-01138-00277619-00277837 through Immaculate Conception +A0s59i6j9mY-01139-00277838-00278041 which when born to a woman somewhere on +A0s59i6j9mY-01140-00278042-00278242 earth nine months following the workings +A0s59i6j9mY-01141-00278243-00278407 completion would become the thalamic +A0s59i6j9mY-01142-00278408-00278710 Messiah embodying Babylon to quote +A0s59i6j9mY-01143-00278711-00278899 Metzger the purpose of the babylon +A0s59i6j9mY-01144-00278900-00279160 working was a daring attempt to shatter +A0s59i6j9mY-01145-00279161-00279414 the boundaries of space and time +A0s59i6j9mY-01146-00279415-00279664 facilitating according to Parsons the +A0s59i6j9mY-01147-00279665-00279973 emergence of Thelema zeon of Horus when +A0s59i6j9mY-01148-00279974-00280201 Cameron departed for a trip to New York +A0s59i6j9mY-01149-00280202-00280390 Parsons retreated to the desert where he +A0s59i6j9mY-01150-00280391-00280585 believed that a preternatural entity +A0s59i6j9mY-01151-00280586-00280747 psychographically provided him with +A0s59i6j9mY-01152-00280748-00281011 library 49 which represented a fourth +A0s59i6j9mY-01153-00281012-00281209 part of Crowley's the book of the law +A0s59i6j9mY-01154-00281210-00281431 the primary sacred text of Thelema as +A0s59i6j9mY-01155-00281432-00281641 well as part of a new sacred text he +A0s59i6j9mY-01156-00281642-00281905 called the book of Babylon Crowley was +A0s59i6j9mY-01157-00281906-00282097 bewildered and concerned by the endeavor +A0s59i6j9mY-01158-00282098-00282340 complaining to Germer of being fairly +A0s59i6j9mY-01159-00282341-00282601 frantic when I contemplate the idiocy of +A0s59i6j9mY-01160-00282602-00282850 these louts believing the babylon +A0s59i6j9mY-01161-00282851-00283069 working was accomplished parsons sold +A0s59i6j9mY-01162-00283070-00283384 the parsonage to developers for $25,000 +A0s59i6j9mY-01163-00283385-00283582 under the condition that he and cameron +A0s59i6j9mY-01164-00283583-00283711 could continue to live in the +A0s59i6j9mY-01165-00283712-00283879 coach-house and he appointed roy +A0s59i6j9mY-01166-00283880-00284065 Leffingwell to head the agape Lodge +A0s59i6j9mY-01167-00284066-00284245 which would now have to meet elsewhere +A0s59i6j9mY-01168-00284246-00284476 for its rituals parsons co-founded a +A0s59i6j9mY-01169-00284477-00284689 company called allied enterprises with +A0s59i6j9mY-01170-00284690-00284896 Hubbard and Serra into which Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01171-00284897-00285094 invested his life savings of twenty +A0s59i6j9mY-01172-00285095-00285303 thousand nine hundred seventy dollars +A0s59i6j9mY-01173-00285304-00285547 Hubbard suggested that with this money +A0s59i6j9mY-01174-00285548-00285772 they traveled to Miami to purchase three +A0s59i6j9mY-01175-00285773-00285922 yachts which they would then sail +A0s59i6j9mY-01176-00285923-00286105 through the Panama Canal to the west +A0s59i6j9mY-01177-00286106-00286291 coast where they could sell them on for +A0s59i6j9mY-01178-00286292-00286362 a profit +A0s59i6j9mY-01179-00286363-00286642 Parsons agreed but many of his friends +A0s59i6j9mY-01180-00286643-00286782 thought it was a bad idea +A0s59i6j9mY-01181-00286783-00287017 Hubbard had secretly requested +A0s59i6j9mY-01182-00287018-00287239 permission from the US Navy to say +A0s59i6j9mY-01183-00287240-00287409 to China and South and Central America +A0s59i6j9mY-01184-00287410-00287724 on a mission to collect writing material +A0s59i6j9mY-01185-00287725-00287982 his real plans were for a world cruise +A0s59i6j9mY-01186-00287983-00288214 left flat broke +A0s59i6j9mY-01187-00288215-00288474 by this defrauding Parsons was incensed +A0s59i6j9mY-01188-00288475-00288660 when he discovered that Hubbard and Sara +A0s59i6j9mY-01189-00288661-00288885 had left for Miami with ten thousand +A0s59i6j9mY-01190-00288886-00289098 dollars of the money he suspected a scam +A0s59i6j9mY-01191-00289099-00289312 but was placated by a telephone call +A0s59i6j9mY-01192-00289313-00289465 from hubbard and agreed to remain +A0s59i6j9mY-01193-00289466-00289755 business partners when Crowley in a +A0s59i6j9mY-01194-00289756-00289867 telegram to Germer +A0s59i6j9mY-01195-00289868-00290137 dismissed Parsons as a weak fool and +A0s59i6j9mY-01196-00290138-00290373 victim to Hubbard and Sara's obvious +A0s59i6j9mY-01197-00290374-00290583 confidence trick Parsons changed his +A0s59i6j9mY-01198-00290584-00290791 mind flew to Miami and placed a +A0s59i6j9mY-01199-00290792-00290976 temporary injunction and restraining +A0s59i6j9mY-01200-00290977-00291265 order on them upon tracking them down to +A0s59i6j9mY-01201-00291266-00291480 a harbor in County Cosway Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01202-00291481-00291667 discovered that the couple had purchased +A0s59i6j9mY-01203-00291668-00291882 three yachts as plan they tried to flee +A0s59i6j9mY-01204-00291883-00292069 aboard one but hit a squall and were +A0s59i6j9mY-01205-00292070-00292353 forced to return to port Parsons was +A0s59i6j9mY-01206-00292354-00292524 convinced that he had brought them to +A0s59i6j9mY-01207-00292525-00292687 shore through a lesser banishing ritual +A0s59i6j9mY-01208-00292688-00292888 of the pentagram containing an +A0s59i6j9mY-01209-00292889-00293124 astrological geomancy and vocation of +A0s59i6j9mY-01210-00293125-00293408 Bart Savelle a vengeful spirit of Mars +A0s59i6j9mY-01211-00293409-00293692 allied enterprises was dissolved and in +A0s59i6j9mY-01212-00293693-00293880 a court settlement Hubbard was required +A0s59i6j9mY-01213-00293881-00294210 to promise to reimburse Parsons Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01214-00294211-00294388 was discouraged from taking further +A0s59i6j9mY-01215-00294389-00294619 action by Serra who threatened to report +A0s59i6j9mY-01216-00294620-00294814 him for statutory rape since their +A0s59i6j9mY-01217-00294815-00295050 sexual relationship took place when she +A0s59i6j9mY-01218-00295051-00295275 was under California's age of consent of +A0s59i6j9mY-01219-00295276-00295612 18 Parsons was ultimately compensated +A0s59i6j9mY-01220-00295613-00295993 with only $2,900 Hubbard already married +A0s59i6j9mY-01221-00295994-00296205 to Margaret Grubb bigamous Lee married +A0s59i6j9mY-01222-00296206-00296437 Sarah and went on to found Dianetics and +A0s59i6j9mY-01223-00296438-00296679 Scientology The Sunday Times published +A0s59i6j9mY-01224-00296680-00296872 an article about Hubbard's involvement +A0s59i6j9mY-01225-00296873-00297075 with the OTO and Parsons occult +A0s59i6j9mY-01226-00297076-00297480 activities in December 1969 in response +A0s59i6j9mY-01227-00297481-00297715 the Church of Scientology released an +A0s59i6j9mY-01228-00297716-00297927 unsubstantiated press statement which +A0s59i6j9mY-01229-00297928-00298110 said that Hubbard had been sent as an +A0s59i6j9mY-01230-00298111-00298339 undercover agent by the US Navy to +A0s59i6j9mY-01231-00298340-00298572 intercept and destroy Parsons black +A0s59i6j9mY-01232-00298573-00298822 magic cult and save Sara from its +A0s59i6j9mY-01233-00298823-00299055 influence the church also stated that +A0s59i6j9mY-01234-00299056-00299283 Robert a Heinlein was the clandestine +A0s59i6j9mY-01235-00299284-00299574 Navy operative who sent in Hubbard to +A0s59i6j9mY-01236-00299575-00299815 undertake this operation returning to +A0s59i6j9mY-01237-00299816-00300046 California Parsons completed the sale of +A0s59i6j9mY-01238-00300047-00300234 the parsonage which was then demolished +A0s59i6j9mY-01239-00300235-00300573 and resigned from the OTO he wrote in +A0s59i6j9mY-01240-00300574-00300616 his +A0s59i6j9mY-01241-00300617-00300802 to Crowley that he did not believe that +A0s59i6j9mY-01242-00300803-00301152 as an autocratic organization the OTO +A0s59i6j9mY-01243-00301153-00301459 constitutes a true and proper medium for +A0s59i6j9mY-01244-00301460-00301890 the expression and attainment of Thelema +A0s59i6j9mY-01245-00301891-00302224 you +A0s59i6j9mY-01246-00302225-00302534 topic work for Israelis and espionage +A0s59i6j9mY-01247-00302535-00303251 accusations 1946 to 52 +A0s59i6j9mY-01248-00303252-00303470 Parsons was employed by North American +A0s59i6j9mY-01249-00303471-00303734 Aviation at Englewood where he worked on +A0s59i6j9mY-01250-00303735-00303998 the Navajo missile program he and +A0s59i6j9mY-01251-00303999-00304196 Cameron moved into a house in Manhattan +A0s59i6j9mY-01252-00304197-00304403 Beach where he instructed her in +A0s59i6j9mY-01253-00304404-00304715 occultism and esoterism when Cameron +A0s59i6j9mY-01254-00304716-00304955 developed catalepsy Parsons referred her +A0s59i6j9mY-01255-00304956-00305168 to Sylvan Muldoon's books on astral +A0s59i6j9mY-01256-00305169-00305357 projection suggesting that she could +A0s59i6j9mY-01257-00305358-00305573 manipulate her seizures to accomplish it +A0s59i6j9mY-01258-00305574-00305960 they were married on October 19 1946 +A0s59i6j9mY-01259-00305961-00306194 four days after his divorce from Helen +A0s59i6j9mY-01260-00306195-00306385 was finalized with Foreman as their +A0s59i6j9mY-01261-00306386-00306692 witness Parsons continued to be seen as +A0s59i6j9mY-01262-00306693-00306932 a specialist in rocketry he acted as an +A0s59i6j9mY-01263-00306933-00307133 expert consultant in numerous industrial +A0s59i6j9mY-01264-00307134-00307369 tribunals and police and Army Ordnance +A0s59i6j9mY-01265-00307370-00307622 investigations regarding explosions in +A0s59i6j9mY-01266-00307623-00308000 May 1947 Parsons gave a talk at the +A0s59i6j9mY-01267-00308001-00308213 Pacific rocket society in which he +A0s59i6j9mY-01268-00308214-00308410 predicted that Rockets would take humans +A0s59i6j9mY-01269-00308411-00308660 to the moon although he had become +A0s59i6j9mY-01270-00308661-00308891 distant from the now largely defunct OTO +A0s59i6j9mY-01271-00308892-00309095 and had sold much of his Crowley and +A0s59i6j9mY-01272-00309096-00309320 library he continued to correspond with +A0s59i6j9mY-01273-00309321-00309515 Crowley until the latter's death in +A0s59i6j9mY-01274-00309516-00309809 December 1947 at the emergence of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01275-00309810-00310031 Cold War a Red Scare developed in the +A0s59i6j9mY-01276-00310032-00310217 u.s. as the congressional house on +A0s59i6j9mY-01277-00310218-00310406 American Activities Committee began +A0s59i6j9mY-01278-00310407-00310592 investigating and obstructing the +A0s59i6j9mY-01279-00310593-00310759 careers of people with perceived +A0s59i6j9mY-01280-00310760-00311063 communist sympathies many of Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01281-00311064-00311276 former colleagues lost their security +A0s59i6j9mY-01282-00311277-00311483 clearances and jobs as a result and +A0s59i6j9mY-01283-00311484-00311738 eventually the FBI stripped Parsons of +A0s59i6j9mY-01284-00311739-00311950 his clearance because of his subversive +A0s59i6j9mY-01285-00311951-00312218 character including his involvement in +A0s59i6j9mY-01286-00312219-00312527 an advocacy of sexual perversion in the +A0s59i6j9mY-01287-00312528-00312926 OTO he speculated in a June 1949 letter +A0s59i6j9mY-01288-00312927-00313103 to Germer that his clearance was revoked +A0s59i6j9mY-01289-00313104-00313325 in response to his public dissemination +A0s59i6j9mY-01290-00313326-00313670 of Crowley's libraries a 1941 tract +A0s59i6j9mY-01291-00313671-00313885 summarizing the individualist moral +A0s59i6j9mY-01292-00313886-00314200 principles of Thelema declassified FBI +A0s59i6j9mY-01293-00314201-00314468 documents later revealed that the FBI's +A0s59i6j9mY-01294-00314469-00314708 primary concern was Parsons former +A0s59i6j9mY-01295-00314709-00314906 connections to Marxists at Caltech and +A0s59i6j9mY-01296-00314907-00315196 his membership of the also subversive +A0s59i6j9mY-01297-00315197-00315491 ACLU when they interviewed Parsons he +A0s59i6j9mY-01298-00315492-00315725 denied communist sympathies but informed +A0s59i6j9mY-01299-00315726-00315938 them of Sidney wine bounds extreme +A0s59i6j9mY-01300-00315939-00316208 communist views and Frank Molina's +A0s59i6j9mY-01301-00316209-00316433 involvement in wine bombs communist cell +A0s59i6j9mY-01302-00316434-00316625 at Caltech which resulted in one +A0s59i6j9mY-01303-00316626-00316829 bombs arrest for perjury since he had +A0s59i6j9mY-01304-00316830-00316997 lied under oath by denying any +A0s59i6j9mY-01305-00316998-00317206 involvement in communist groups +A0s59i6j9mY-01306-00317207-00317429 Melina's security clearance was +A0s59i6j9mY-01307-00317430-00317663 withdrawn as well in reaction to this +A0s59i6j9mY-01308-00317664-00317768 hostile treatment +A0s59i6j9mY-01309-00317769-00317939 Parsons sought work in the rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-01310-00317940-00318221 industry abroad he sought advice to do +A0s59i6j9mY-01311-00318222-00318443 so in correspondence with von Karman +A0s59i6j9mY-01312-00318444-00318671 whose advice he followed by enrolling in +A0s59i6j9mY-01313-00318672-00318824 an evening course in advanced +A0s59i6j9mY-01314-00318825-00319061 mathematics at USC to bolster his +A0s59i6j9mY-01315-00319062-00319220 employability in the field +A0s59i6j9mY-01316-00319221-00319445 but again he neglected attendance and +A0s59i6j9mY-01317-00319446-00319745 failed the course Parsons again resorted +A0s59i6j9mY-01318-00319746-00319937 to bootlegging nitroglycerin for money +A0s59i6j9mY-01319-00319938-00320135 and managed to earn a wage as a car +A0s59i6j9mY-01320-00320136-00320345 mechanic a manual laborer at a gas +A0s59i6j9mY-01321-00320346-00320576 station and a hospital orderly for two +A0s59i6j9mY-01322-00320577-00320798 years he was also a faculty member at +A0s59i6j9mY-01323-00320799-00321052 the USC Department of Pharmacology +A0s59i6j9mY-01324-00321053-00321320 relations between Parsons and Cameron +A0s59i6j9mY-01325-00321321-00321503 became strained they agreed to a +A0s59i6j9mY-01326-00321504-00321719 temporary separation and she moved to +A0s59i6j9mY-01327-00321720-00321968 Mexico to join an artists commune in San +A0s59i6j9mY-01328-00321969-00322205 Miguel de Allende unable to pursue his +A0s59i6j9mY-01329-00322206-00322424 scientific career without his wife and +A0s59i6j9mY-01330-00322425-00322643 devoid of friendship Parsons decided to +A0s59i6j9mY-01331-00322644-00322829 return to occultism and embarked on +A0s59i6j9mY-01332-00322830-00323072 sexually-based magical operations with +A0s59i6j9mY-01333-00323073-00323369 prostitutes he was intent informally +A0s59i6j9mY-01334-00323370-00323564 following the ritualistic practice of +A0s59i6j9mY-01335-00323565-00323795 phthalimide organization the AAA on +A0s59i6j9mY-01336-00323796-00324058 performing the crossing of the abyss +A0s59i6j9mY-01337-00324059-00324293 attaining union with the universal +A0s59i6j9mY-01338-00324294-00324593 consciousness or all as understood in +A0s59i6j9mY-01339-00324594-00324815 Thelema mysticism and becoming the +A0s59i6j9mY-01340-00324816-00325112 master of the temple following his +A0s59i6j9mY-01341-00325113-00325355 apparent success in doing so Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01342-00325356-00325478 recounted having an out-of-body +A0s59i6j9mY-01343-00325479-00325745 experience invoked by Babylon who +A0s59i6j9mY-01344-00325746-00325934 astrally transported him to the biblical +A0s59i6j9mY-01345-00325935-00326162 city of Corazon an experience he +A0s59i6j9mY-01346-00326163-00326419 referred to as a black pilgrimage +A0s59i6j9mY-01347-00326420-00326723 accompanying Parsons oath of the abyss +A0s59i6j9mY-01348-00326724-00327104 was his own oath of the Antichrist which +A0s59i6j9mY-01349-00327105-00327335 was witnessed by Wilfred Talbot Smith in +A0s59i6j9mY-01350-00327336-00327437 this oath +A0s59i6j9mY-01351-00327438-00327641 Parsons professed to embody an entity +A0s59i6j9mY-01352-00327642-00327875 named bellari an armless al dajjal the +A0s59i6j9mY-01353-00327876-00328130 Antichrist who am come to fulfill the +A0s59i6j9mY-01354-00328131-00328552 law of the Beast 666 Aleister Crowley +A0s59i6j9mY-01355-00328553-00328808 viewing these oaths as the completion of +A0s59i6j9mY-01356-00328809-00329012 the Babylon working parsons wrote an +A0s59i6j9mY-01357-00329013-00329279 ileus autobiography titled analysis by a +A0s59i6j9mY-01358-00329280-00329489 master of the temple and an occult text +A0s59i6j9mY-01359-00329490-00329744 titled the book of antichrist in the +A0s59i6j9mY-01360-00329745-00330018 latter work parsons writing as balerion +A0s59i6j9mY-01361-00330019-00330219 aside that within nine years Babylon +A0s59i6j9mY-01362-00330220-00330429 would manifest on earth and supersede +A0s59i6j9mY-01363-00330430-00330639 the dominance of the Abrahamic religions +A0s59i6j9mY-01364-00330640-00330884 during this period parsons also wrote an +A0s59i6j9mY-01365-00330885-00331106 essay on his individualist philosophy +A0s59i6j9mY-01366-00331107-00331341 and politics which he described as +A0s59i6j9mY-01367-00331342-00331587 standing for liberalism and liberal +A0s59i6j9mY-01368-00331588-00331941 principles titled freedom as a two-edged +A0s59i6j9mY-01369-00331942-00332169 sword in which he condemned the +A0s59i6j9mY-01370-00332170-00332435 authoritarianism censorship corruption +A0s59i6j9mY-01371-00332436-00332691 anti-sexual ism and racism he saw as +A0s59i6j9mY-01372-00332692-00332874 prevalent in American society +A0s59i6j9mY-01373-00332875-00333129 none of these works were published in +A0s59i6j9mY-01374-00333130-00333383 his lifetime through Heinlein Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01375-00333384-00333594 received a visit from writer L Sprague +A0s59i6j9mY-01376-00333595-00333833 de Kamp with whom he discussed magic and +A0s59i6j9mY-01377-00333834-00334020 science fiction and disclosed that +A0s59i6j9mY-01378-00334021-00334212 Hubbard had sent a letter offering him +A0s59i6j9mY-01379-00334213-00334503 Sara back to camp later referred to +A0s59i6j9mY-01380-00334504-00334800 Parsons as an authentic mad genius if I +A0s59i6j9mY-01381-00334801-00335055 ever met one and based the character +A0s59i6j9mY-01382-00335056-00335298 Courtney James on him in his time travel +A0s59i6j9mY-01383-00335299-00335718 story a gun for dinosaur 1956 Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01384-00335719-00335937 was also visited by Jane wolf who +A0s59i6j9mY-01385-00335938-00336131 unsuccessfully appealed for him to +A0s59i6j9mY-01386-00336132-00336471 rejoin the dilapidated OTO he entered a +A0s59i6j9mY-01387-00336472-00336680 brief relationship with an Irish woman +A0s59i6j9mY-01388-00336681-00336912 named Gladys Gohan they moved to a house +A0s59i6j9mY-01389-00336913-00337130 and Redondo Beach a building known by +A0s59i6j9mY-01390-00337131-00337334 them as the concrete castle +A0s59i6j9mY-01391-00337335-00337593 Cameron returned to Redondo Beach from +A0s59i6j9mY-01392-00337594-00337803 San Miguel de Allende and violently +A0s59i6j9mY-01393-00337804-00338043 argued with Parsons upon discovering his +A0s59i6j9mY-01394-00338044-00338262 infidelity before she again left for +A0s59i6j9mY-01395-00338263-00338577 Mexico Parsons responded by initiating +A0s59i6j9mY-01396-00338578-00338775 divorce proceedings against her on the +A0s59i6j9mY-01397-00338776-00339174 grounds of extreme cruelty Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01398-00339175-00339410 testified to a closed federal court that +A0s59i6j9mY-01399-00339411-00339630 the moral philosophy of Thelema was both +A0s59i6j9mY-01400-00339631-00339819 anti-fascist and anti-communist +A0s59i6j9mY-01401-00339820-00340057 emphasizing his belief in individualism +A0s59i6j9mY-01402-00340058-00340326 this along with references from his +A0s59i6j9mY-01403-00340327-00340532 scientific colleagues resulted in his +A0s59i6j9mY-01404-00340533-00340764 security clearance being reinstated by +A0s59i6j9mY-01405-00340765-00340955 the industrial employment Review Board +A0s59i6j9mY-01406-00340956-00341156 which ruled that there was insufficient +A0s59i6j9mY-01407-00341157-00341367 evidence that he had ever had communist +A0s59i6j9mY-01408-00341368-00341643 sympathies this allowed Parsons to +A0s59i6j9mY-01409-00341644-00341838 obtain a contract in designing and +A0s59i6j9mY-01410-00341839-00342021 constructing a chemical plant for the +A0s59i6j9mY-01411-00342022-00342245 Hughes Aircraft Company in Culver City +A0s59i6j9mY-01412-00342246-00342549 von Karman put Parsons in touch with +A0s59i6j9mY-01413-00342550-00342771 Herbert T Rosenfeld president of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01414-00342772-00342951 Southern Californian Chapter of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01415-00342952-00343278 American Technion society Zionist group +A0s59i6j9mY-01416-00343279-00343401 dedicated to support +A0s59i6j9mY-01417-00343402-00343619 the newly created State of Israel +A0s59i6j9mY-01418-00343620-00343914 Rosenfeld offered Parsons a job with the +A0s59i6j9mY-01419-00343915-00344148 Israeli rocket program and hired him to +A0s59i6j9mY-01420-00344149-00344409 produce technical reports for them in +A0s59i6j9mY-01421-00344410-00344667 November 1950 as the Red Scare +A0s59i6j9mY-01422-00344668-00344922 intensified Parsons decided to migrate +A0s59i6j9mY-01423-00344923-00345141 to Israel to pursue Rosenfeld's offer +A0s59i6j9mY-01424-00345142-00345384 but a huge secretary whom Parsons had +A0s59i6j9mY-01425-00345385-00345555 asked to type up a portfolio of +A0s59i6j9mY-01426-00345556-00345783 technical documents reported him to the +A0s59i6j9mY-01427-00345784-00346164 FBI she accused Parsons of espionage and +A0s59i6j9mY-01428-00346165-00346374 attempted theft of classified company +A0s59i6j9mY-01429-00346375-00346569 documents on the basis of some of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01430-00346570-00346767 reports that he had sought to submit to +A0s59i6j9mY-01431-00346768-00346971 the Technion Society Parsons was +A0s59i6j9mY-01432-00346972-00347205 immediately fired from Hughes the FBI +A0s59i6j9mY-01433-00347206-00347403 investigated the complaint and were +A0s59i6j9mY-01434-00347404-00347604 suspicious that Parsons was spying for +A0s59i6j9mY-01435-00347605-00347898 the Israeli government Parsons denied +A0s59i6j9mY-01436-00347899-00348111 the allegations when interrogated he +A0s59i6j9mY-01437-00348112-00348276 insisted that his intentions were +A0s59i6j9mY-01438-00348277-00348459 peaceful and that he had suffered an +A0s59i6j9mY-01439-00348460-00348642 error of judgment in procuring the +A0s59i6j9mY-01440-00348643-00348951 documents some of Parsons scientific +A0s59i6j9mY-01441-00348952-00349152 colleagues rallied to his defense but +A0s59i6j9mY-01442-00349153-00349344 the case against him worsened when the +A0s59i6j9mY-01443-00349345-00349599 FBI investigated Rosenfeld for being +A0s59i6j9mY-01444-00349600-00349785 linked to Soviet agents and more +A0s59i6j9mY-01445-00349786-00349971 accounts of his occult and sexually +A0s59i6j9mY-01446-00349972-00350163 permissive activities at the parsonage +A0s59i6j9mY-01447-00350164-00350562 came to light in October 1951 the US +A0s59i6j9mY-01448-00350563-00350736 attorney decided that because the +A0s59i6j9mY-01449-00350737-00350904 contents of the reports did not +A0s59i6j9mY-01450-00350905-00351162 constitute state secrets Parsons was not +A0s59i6j9mY-01451-00351163-00351366 guilty of espionage the Review Board +A0s59i6j9mY-01452-00351367-00351570 still considered Parsons a liability +A0s59i6j9mY-01453-00351571-00351792 because of his historical Marxist +A0s59i6j9mY-01454-00351793-00352005 affiliations and investigations by the +A0s59i6j9mY-01455-00352006-00352380 FBI and in January 1952 they permanently +A0s59i6j9mY-01456-00352381-00352608 reinstated their ban on his working for +A0s59i6j9mY-01457-00352609-00352788 classified projects effectively +A0s59i6j9mY-01458-00352789-00353015 prohibiting him from working in rocketry +A0s59i6j9mY-01459-00353016-00353304 to make a living he founded the Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01460-00353305-00353538 chemical manufacturing company which was +A0s59i6j9mY-01461-00353539-00353739 based in North Hollywood and created +A0s59i6j9mY-01462-00353740-00353988 pyrotechnics and explosives such as fog +A0s59i6j9mY-01463-00353989-00354225 effects and imitation gunshot wounds for +A0s59i6j9mY-01464-00354226-00354429 the film industry and he also returned +A0s59i6j9mY-01465-00354430-00354624 to chemical manufacturing at the burr +A0s59i6j9mY-01466-00354625-00354954 mite powder company in Saugus Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01467-00354955-00355173 reconciled with Cameron and they resumed +A0s59i6j9mY-01468-00355174-00355353 their relationship and moved into a +A0s59i6j9mY-01469-00355354-00355551 former coach house on Orange Grove +A0s59i6j9mY-01470-00355552-00355640 Avenue +A0s59i6j9mY-01471-00355641-00355920 Parsons converted its large first-floor +A0s59i6j9mY-01472-00355921-00356166 laundry room into a home laboratory to +A0s59i6j9mY-01473-00356167-00356373 work on his chemical and pyrotechnic +A0s59i6j9mY-01474-00356374-00356610 projects homebrew absinthe and stockpile +A0s59i6j9mY-01475-00356611-00356736 his materials +A0s59i6j9mY-01476-00356737-00356985 they let out the upstairs bedrooms and +A0s59i6j9mY-01477-00356986-00357195 began holding parties that were attended +A0s59i6j9mY-01478-00357196-00357411 largely by Bohemians and members of The +A0s59i6j9mY-01479-00357412-00357633 Beat Generation along with old friends +A0s59i6j9mY-01480-00357634-00357864 including Foreman Molina and cor nog +A0s59i6j9mY-01481-00357865-00358116 they also congregated at the home of +A0s59i6j9mY-01482-00358117-00358317 Andrew Haley who lived on the same +A0s59i6j9mY-01483-00358318-00358635 street though Parsons in his mid-30s was +A0s59i6j9mY-01484-00358636-00358917 a pre-war relic to the younger attendees +A0s59i6j9mY-01485-00358918-00359145 the raucous socials often lasted until +A0s59i6j9mY-01486-00359146-00359373 dawn and frequently attracted police +A0s59i6j9mY-01487-00359374-00359673 attention parsons also founded a new +A0s59i6j9mY-01488-00359674-00359853 thell amide group known as the +A0s59i6j9mY-01489-00359854-00360105 witchcraft whose beliefs revolved around +A0s59i6j9mY-01490-00360106-00360303 a simplified version of Crowley's +A0s59i6j9mY-01491-00360304-00360507 thelema and Parsons own Babylon +A0s59i6j9mY-01492-00360508-00360798 prophecies he offered a course in its +A0s59i6j9mY-01493-00360799-00361071 teachings for a $10 fee which included a +A0s59i6j9mY-01494-00361072-00361293 new thelema belief system called the +A0s59i6j9mY-01495-00361294-00361581 gnosis a version of Christian Gnosticism +A0s59i6j9mY-01496-00361582-00361767 with Sophia as its Godhead and the +A0s59i6j9mY-01497-00361768-00362034 Christian God as its Demiurge he also +A0s59i6j9mY-01498-00362035-00362280 collaborated with Cameron on songs for +A0s59i6j9mY-01499-00362281-00362472 the witch woman a collection of poems +A0s59i6j9mY-01500-00362473-00362676 which she illustrated that was published +A0s59i6j9mY-01501-00362677-00363273 in 2014 +A0s59i6j9mY-01502-00363274-00363892 topic death 1952 +A0s59i6j9mY-01503-00363893-00364174 Parsons and Cameron decided to travel to +A0s59i6j9mY-01504-00364175-00364380 Mexico for a few months both for a +A0s59i6j9mY-01505-00364381-00364597 vacation and for Parsons to take up a +A0s59i6j9mY-01506-00364598-00364785 job opportunity establishing an +A0s59i6j9mY-01507-00364786-00364987 explosives Factory for the Mexican +A0s59i6j9mY-01508-00364988-00365212 government they hoped that this would +A0s59i6j9mY-01509-00365213-00365416 facilitate a move to Israel where they +A0s59i6j9mY-01510-00365417-00365628 could start a family and where Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01511-00365629-00365826 could bypass the US government to +A0s59i6j9mY-01512-00365827-00366102 recommence his rocketry career he was +A0s59i6j9mY-01513-00366103-00366309 particularly disturbed by the presence +A0s59i6j9mY-01514-00366310-00366504 of the FBI convinced that they were +A0s59i6j9mY-01515-00366505-00366895 spying on him On June 17 1952 a day +A0s59i6j9mY-01516-00366896-00367104 before their planned departure Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01517-00367105-00367339 received a rush order of explosives for +A0s59i6j9mY-01518-00367340-00367551 a film set and began to work on it in +A0s59i6j9mY-01519-00367552-00367816 his home laboratory an explosion +A0s59i6j9mY-01520-00367817-00367987 destroyed the lower part of the building +A0s59i6j9mY-01521-00367988-00368226 during which Parsons sustained mortal +A0s59i6j9mY-01522-00368227-00368539 wounds his right forearm was amputated +A0s59i6j9mY-01523-00368540-00368767 his legs and left arm were broken and a +A0s59i6j9mY-01524-00368768-00368962 hole was torn in the right side of his +A0s59i6j9mY-01525-00368963-00369241 face despite these critical injuries +A0s59i6j9mY-01526-00369242-00369435 Parsons was found conscious by the +A0s59i6j9mY-01527-00369436-00369756 upstairs lodgers he tried to communicate +A0s59i6j9mY-01528-00369757-00369970 with the arriving ambulance workers who +A0s59i6j9mY-01529-00369971-00370120 rushed him to the Huntington Memorial +A0s59i6j9mY-01530-00370121-00370345 Hospital where he was declared dead +A0s59i6j9mY-01531-00370346-00370581 approximately 37 minutes after the +A0s59i6j9mY-01532-00370582-00370870 explosion when his mother Ruth was +A0s59i6j9mY-01533-00370871-00371044 informed of the events she immediately +A0s59i6j9mY-01534-00371045-00371316 took a fatal overdose of barbiturates +A0s59i6j9mY-01535-00371317-00371526 Cameron learned of her husband's death +A0s59i6j9mY-01536-00371527-00371737 from reporters at the scene when she +A0s59i6j9mY-01537-00371738-00371941 returned home from grocery shopping +A0s59i6j9mY-01538-00371942-00372151 Pasadena Police Department criminologist +A0s59i6j9mY-01539-00372152-00372346 Don Harding led the official +A0s59i6j9mY-01540-00372347-00372579 investigation he concluded that Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01541-00372580-00372799 had been mixing fulminate of mercury in +A0s59i6j9mY-01542-00372800-00372984 a coffee can when he dropped it on the +A0s59i6j9mY-01543-00372985-00373171 floor causing the initial explosion +A0s59i6j9mY-01544-00373172-00373396 which worsened when it came into contact +A0s59i6j9mY-01545-00373397-00373710 with other chemicals in the room Foreman +A0s59i6j9mY-01546-00373711-00373908 considered this likely stating that +A0s59i6j9mY-01547-00373909-00374140 Parsons often had sweaty hands and could +A0s59i6j9mY-01548-00374141-00374406 easily have dropped the can some of +A0s59i6j9mY-01549-00374407-00374587 Parsons colleagues rejected this +A0s59i6j9mY-01550-00374588-00374791 explanation saying that he was very +A0s59i6j9mY-01551-00374792-00375084 attentive about safety to colleagues +A0s59i6j9mY-01552-00375085-00375228 from the bur mite powder company +A0s59i6j9mY-01553-00375229-00375471 described Parsons work habits as +A0s59i6j9mY-01554-00375472-00375807 scrupulously neat and exceptionally +A0s59i6j9mY-01555-00375808-00376114 cautious the latter statement from +A0s59i6j9mY-01556-00376115-00376328 chemical engineer George San timers +A0s59i6j9mY-01557-00376329-00376564 insisted that the explosion must have +A0s59i6j9mY-01558-00376565-00376717 come from beneath the floorboards +A0s59i6j9mY-01559-00376718-00376921 implying an organized plot to kill +A0s59i6j9mY-01560-00376922-00377188 Parsons Harding accepted that these +A0s59i6j9mY-01561-00377189-00377273 inconsistent +A0s59i6j9mY-01562-00377274-00377588 seas were incongruous but described the +A0s59i6j9mY-01563-00377589-00377785 manner in which parsons had stored his +A0s59i6j9mY-01564-00377786-00378047 chemicals as criminally negligent and +A0s59i6j9mY-01565-00378048-00378305 noted that parsons had previously been +A0s59i6j9mY-01566-00378306-00378524 investigated by the police for illegally +A0s59i6j9mY-01567-00378525-00378794 storing chemicals at the parsonage he +A0s59i6j9mY-01568-00378795-00379010 also found a morphine filled syringe at +A0s59i6j9mY-01569-00379011-00379214 the scene suggesting that Parsons was +A0s59i6j9mY-01570-00379215-00379510 narcotized the police saw insufficient +A0s59i6j9mY-01571-00379511-00379646 evidence to continue the investigation +A0s59i6j9mY-01572-00379647-00379910 and closed the case as an accidental +A0s59i6j9mY-01573-00379911-00380222 death both Wolfe and Smith suggested +A0s59i6j9mY-01574-00380223-00380417 that Parsons death had been suicide +A0s59i6j9mY-01575-00380418-00380585 stating that he had suffered from +A0s59i6j9mY-01576-00380586-00380828 depression for some time others +A0s59i6j9mY-01577-00380829-00381020 theorized that the explosion was an +A0s59i6j9mY-01578-00381021-00381221 assassination planned by Howard Hughes +A0s59i6j9mY-01579-00381222-00381458 in response to Parsons suspected theft +A0s59i6j9mY-01580-00381459-00381691 of Hughes Aircraft Company documents +A0s59i6j9mY-01581-00381692-00381956 Cameron became convinced that Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01582-00381957-00382172 had been murdered either by police +A0s59i6j9mY-01583-00382173-00382385 officers seeking vengeance for his role +A0s59i6j9mY-01584-00382386-00382592 in the conviction of Earle canet or by +A0s59i6j9mY-01585-00382593-00382810 anti-zionists opposed to his work for +A0s59i6j9mY-01586-00382811-00383084 Israel one of Cameron's friends the +A0s59i6j9mY-01587-00383085-00383210 artist Renata druks +A0s59i6j9mY-01588-00383211-00383438 later stated her belief that Parsons had +A0s59i6j9mY-01589-00383439-00383618 died in a write designed to create a +A0s59i6j9mY-01590-00383619-00383888 homunculus his death has never been +A0s59i6j9mY-01591-00383889-00384085 definitively explained the immediate +A0s59i6j9mY-01592-00384086-00384299 aftermath of the explosion attracted the +A0s59i6j9mY-01593-00384300-00384535 interest of the US media making headline +A0s59i6j9mY-01594-00384536-00384812 news in the Los Angeles Times these +A0s59i6j9mY-01595-00384813-00385025 initial reports focused on Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01596-00385026-00385247 prominence in rocketry but neglected to +A0s59i6j9mY-01597-00385248-00385532 mention his occult interests when asked +A0s59i6j9mY-01598-00385533-00385759 for comment Aerojet secretary-treasurer +A0s59i6j9mY-01599-00385760-00386134 te bein said that parsons like to wander +A0s59i6j9mY-01600-00386135-00386348 but he was one of the top men in the +A0s59i6j9mY-01601-00386349-00386726 field within a few days journalists had +A0s59i6j9mY-01602-00386727-00386924 discovered his involvement in Thelema +A0s59i6j9mY-01603-00386925-00387137 and emphasised this in their reports a +A0s59i6j9mY-01604-00387138-00387317 private prayer service was held for +A0s59i6j9mY-01605-00387318-00387530 Parsons at the funeral home where his +A0s59i6j9mY-01606-00387531-00387664 body was cremated +A0s59i6j9mY-01607-00387665-00387905 Cameron scattered his ashes in the +A0s59i6j9mY-01608-00387906-00388133 Mojave Desert before burning most of his +A0s59i6j9mY-01609-00388134-00388424 possessions she later tried to perform +A0s59i6j9mY-01610-00388425-00388637 astral projection to commune with him +A0s59i6j9mY-01611-00388638-00388922 the OTO also held a memorial service +A0s59i6j9mY-01612-00388923-00389189 with attendees including Helen and Sarah +A0s59i6j9mY-01613-00389190-00389588 at which Smith led the Gnostic mass +A0s59i6j9mY-01614-00389589-00389952 you +A0s59i6j9mY-01615-00389953-00390788 topic personal life +A0s59i6j9mY-01616-00390789-00391298 topic personality +A0s59i6j9mY-01617-00391299-00391532 Parsons was considered effeminate as a +A0s59i6j9mY-01618-00391533-00391757 child in adult life he exhibited an +A0s59i6j9mY-01619-00391758-00392069 attitude of machismo his FBI file +A0s59i6j9mY-01620-00392070-00392366 described him as potentially bisexual +A0s59i6j9mY-01621-00392367-00392624 and he once expressed experiencing a +A0s59i6j9mY-01622-00392625-00392882 latent homosexuality the actor paul +A0s59i6j9mY-01623-00392883-00393056 matheson said he had had a gay +A0s59i6j9mY-01624-00393057-00393323 relationship with parsons in the 1950s +A0s59i6j9mY-01625-00393324-00393515 though this was disputed by others who +A0s59i6j9mY-01626-00393516-00393788 knew him and cameron parsons had the +A0s59i6j9mY-01627-00393789-00394016 reputation of being a womanizer and was +A0s59i6j9mY-01628-00394017-00394217 notorious for frequently flirting and +A0s59i6j9mY-01629-00394218-00394472 having sexual liaisons with female staff +A0s59i6j9mY-01630-00394473-00394799 members at JPL and Aerojet he was also +A0s59i6j9mY-01631-00394800-00395021 known for personal eccentricities such +A0s59i6j9mY-01632-00395022-00395240 as greeting houseguests with a large pet +A0s59i6j9mY-01633-00395241-00395453 snake around his neck driving to work in +A0s59i6j9mY-01634-00395454-00395681 a run-down Pontiac and using a mannequin +A0s59i6j9mY-01635-00395682-00395860 dressed in a tuxedo with a bucket +A0s59i6j9mY-01636-00395861-00396160 labeled the resident as his mailbox as +A0s59i6j9mY-01637-00396161-00396389 well as a fencing and archery enthusiast +A0s59i6j9mY-01638-00396390-00396658 Parsons was also a keen shooter he often +A0s59i6j9mY-01639-00396659-00396878 hunted jack rabbits and cotton tails in +A0s59i6j9mY-01640-00396879-00397046 the desert and was amused by mock +A0s59i6j9mY-01641-00397047-00397265 dueling with Foreman while on test sites +A0s59i6j9mY-01642-00397266-00397592 with rifles and shotguns upon proposing +A0s59i6j9mY-01643-00397593-00397805 to his first wife Helen he gifted her a +A0s59i6j9mY-01644-00397806-00397876 pistol +A0s59i6j9mY-01645-00397877-00398138 Parsons enjoyed playing pranks on his +A0s59i6j9mY-01646-00398139-00398315 colleagues often through detonating +A0s59i6j9mY-01647-00398316-00398531 explosives such as firecrackers and +A0s59i6j9mY-01648-00398532-00398747 smoke bombs and was known to spend hours +A0s59i6j9mY-01649-00398748-00398939 at a time in the bathtub playing with +A0s59i6j9mY-01650-00398940-00399125 toy boats while living at the parsonage +A0s59i6j9mY-01651-00399126-00399371 as well as intense bursts of creativity +A0s59i6j9mY-01652-00399372-00399566 Parsons suffered from what he described +A0s59i6j9mY-01653-00399567-00399824 as manic hysteria and depressing +A0s59i6j9mY-01654-00399825-00400112 melancholy his father Marvel after +A0s59i6j9mY-01655-00400113-00400325 suffering a near-fatal heart attack died +A0s59i6j9mY-01656-00400326-00400652 in 1947 as a psychiatric patient at st. +A0s59i6j9mY-01657-00400653-00400862 Elizabeth's Hospital in Washington DC +A0s59i6j9mY-01658-00400863-00401042 diagnosed with severe clinical +A0s59i6j9mY-01659-00401043-00401303 depression a condition pendel suggested +A0s59i6j9mY-01660-00401304-00401927 the younger Parsons inherited +A0s59i6j9mY-01661-00401928-00402541 Topic professional associations +A0s59i6j9mY-01662-00402542-00402811 Carson's obituary listed him as a member +A0s59i6j9mY-01663-00402812-00403039 of the Army Ordnance Association the +A0s59i6j9mY-01664-00403040-00403249 American Institute of Aeronautics and +A0s59i6j9mY-01665-00403250-00403444 Astronautics the American Chemical +A0s59i6j9mY-01666-00403445-00403714 Society the American Association for the +A0s59i6j9mY-01667-00403715-00403984 Advancement of science and despite his +A0s59i6j9mY-01668-00403985-00404248 lack of an academic degree the Sigma Chi +A0s59i6j9mY-01669-00404249-00404548 fraternity it also stated that he had +A0s59i6j9mY-01670-00404549-00405225 turned down several honorary degrees +A0s59i6j9mY-01671-00405226-00406077 topic philosophy +A0s59i6j9mY-01672-00406078-00406627 topic religious beliefs +A0s59i6j9mY-01673-00406628-00406849 Parsons adhered to the occult philosophy +A0s59i6j9mY-01674-00406850-00407080 of Thelema which had been founded in +A0s59i6j9mY-01675-00407081-00407359 1904 by the English occultist Aleister +A0s59i6j9mY-01676-00407360-00407593 Crowley following a spiritual revelation +A0s59i6j9mY-01677-00407594-00407791 that he had in Cairo Egypt when +A0s59i6j9mY-01678-00407792-00408106 according to Crowley's accounts a spirit +A0s59i6j9mY-01679-00408107-00408328 being known as Iowa's dictated to him a +A0s59i6j9mY-01680-00408329-00408526 prophetic text known as the book of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01681-00408527-00408790 law prior to becoming aware of Thelema +A0s59i6j9mY-01682-00408791-00408994 and crowley parsons interest in +A0s59i6j9mY-01683-00408995-00409189 esoterism was developed through his +A0s59i6j9mY-01684-00409190-00409447 reading of the golden bough 1890 a work +A0s59i6j9mY-01685-00409448-00409659 in comparative mythology by scottish +A0s59i6j9mY-01686-00409660-00409860 social anthropologist James George +A0s59i6j9mY-01687-00409862-00410149 Frazer Parsons had also attended +A0s59i6j9mY-01688-00410150-00410362 lectures on theosophy by philosopher +A0s59i6j9mY-01689-00410363-00410566 Jiddu Krishnamurti with his first wife +A0s59i6j9mY-01690-00410567-00410782 Helen but disliked the belief systems +A0s59i6j9mY-01691-00410783-00411009 sentiment of the good and the true +A0s59i6j9mY-01692-00411010-00411301 during rocket tests Parsons often +A0s59i6j9mY-01693-00411302-00411576 recited Crowley's poem him to pan as a +A0s59i6j9mY-01694-00411577-00411868 good luck charm he took to addressing +A0s59i6j9mY-01695-00411868-00412155 Crowley as his most beloved father and +A0s59i6j9mY-01696-00412156-00412539 signed off to him as thy son john in +A0s59i6j9mY-01697-00412541-00412884 july 1945 Parsons gave a speech to the +A0s59i6j9mY-01698-00412885-00413085 agape Lodge in which he attempted to +A0s59i6j9mY-01699-00413087-00413293 explain how he felt that the book of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01700-00413293-00413497 law could be made relevant to modern +A0s59i6j9mY-01701-00413497-00413764 life in this speech which was +A0s59i6j9mY-01702-00413764-00413928 subsequently published under the title +A0s59i6j9mY-01703-00413929-00414220 of doing your will he examined the +A0s59i6j9mY-01704-00414221-00414435 phthalimide concept of true will writing +A0s59i6j9mY-01705-00414437-00414718 that the mainspring of an individual as +A0s59i6j9mY-01706-00414718-00414991 his creative will this will as the sum +A0s59i6j9mY-01707-00414992-00415222 of his tendencies his destiny his inner +A0s59i6j9mY-01708-00415222-00415485 truth it is one with the force that +A0s59i6j9mY-01709-00415487-00415666 makes the birds sing and flowers bloom +A0s59i6j9mY-01710-00415667-00415930 as inevitable as gravity as implicit as +A0s59i6j9mY-01711-00415931-00416155 a bowel movement it informs alike Adams +A0s59i6j9mY-01712-00416156-00416457 and men and sons to the man who knows +A0s59i6j9mY-01713-00416458-00416671 this will there is no why or why not +A0s59i6j9mY-01714-00416672-00417013 no can or cannot yes there is no known +A0s59i6j9mY-01715-00417014-00417210 force that can turn an apple into an +A0s59i6j9mY-01716-00417212-00417421 alley cat there is no known force that +A0s59i6j9mY-01717-00417422-00417691 can turn a man from his will this is the +A0s59i6j9mY-01718-00417692-00417903 triumph of genius that surviving the +A0s59i6j9mY-01719-00417904-00418097 centuries enlightens the world +A0s59i6j9mY-01720-00418099-00418513 this force burns in every man Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01721-00418514-00418747 identified four obstacles that prevented +A0s59i6j9mY-01722-00418747-00418945 humans from achieving and performing +A0s59i6j9mY-01723-00418946-00419089 their true will all of which he +A0s59i6j9mY-01724-00419089-00419245 connected with fear the fear of +A0s59i6j9mY-01725-00419246-00419460 incompetence the fear of the opinion of +A0s59i6j9mY-01726-00419462-00419647 others the fear of hurting others and +A0s59i6j9mY-01727-00419647-00419876 the fear of insecurity he +A0s59i6j9mY-01728-00419877-00420043 insisted that these must be overcome +A0s59i6j9mY-01729-00420045-00420320 writing that the will must be freed of +A0s59i6j9mY-01730-00420321-00420620 its fetters the ruthless examination and +A0s59i6j9mY-01731-00420621-00420850 destruction of taboos complexes +A0s59i6j9mY-01732-00420851-00421181 frustrations dislikes fears and disgusts +A0s59i6j9mY-01733-00421182-00421370 hostile to the will as essential to +A0s59i6j9mY-01734-00421371-00421700 progress though Parsons was a lifelong +A0s59i6j9mY-01735-00421701-00421934 devotee to Thelema he grew weary of and +A0s59i6j9mY-01736-00421935-00422146 eventually left the Ordo Templi Orientis +A0s59i6j9mY-01737-00422147-00422429 the religious organization that began +A0s59i6j9mY-01738-00422430-00422627 propagating thelema under Crowley's +A0s59i6j9mY-01739-00422628-00422930 leadership from the 1910s which Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01740-00422931-00423107 viewed despite the disagreement of +A0s59i6j9mY-01741-00423108-00423289 Crowley himself as excessively +A0s59i6j9mY-01742-00423291-00423497 hierarchical and impeding upon the +A0s59i6j9mY-01743-00423497-00423641 rigorous spiritual and philosophical +A0s59i6j9mY-01744-00423642-00423971 practice of trool describing the OTO as +A0s59i6j9mY-01745-00423972-00424253 an excellent training school for adepts +A0s59i6j9mY-01746-00424254-00424481 but hardly an appropriate order for the +A0s59i6j9mY-01747-00424482-00424646 manifestation of Thelema +A0s59i6j9mY-01748-00424647-00424982 in this sense Parsons was described by +A0s59i6j9mY-01749-00424983-00425247 Carter as an almost fundamentalist +A0s59i6j9mY-01750-00425249-00425483 elamite who placed the book of the laws +A0s59i6j9mY-01751-00425484-00426145 dogma above all other doctrine +A0s59i6j9mY-01752-00426146-00426641 topic politics +A0s59i6j9mY-01753-00426642-00426920 from early on in his career Parsons took +A0s59i6j9mY-01754-00426921-00427122 an interest in socialism and communism +A0s59i6j9mY-01755-00427122-00427326 views that he shared with his friend +A0s59i6j9mY-01756-00427327-00427587 Frank Molina under the influence of +A0s59i6j9mY-01757-00427588-00427814 another friend Sydney wine bomb the two +A0s59i6j9mY-01758-00427815-00427991 joined a communist group in the late +A0s59i6j9mY-01759-00427992-00428253 1930s with Parsons reading Marxist +A0s59i6j9mY-01760-00428254-00428427 literature but he remained unconvinced +A0s59i6j9mY-01761-00428428-00428634 and refused to join the American +A0s59i6j9mY-01762-00428635-00428904 Communist Party Molina asserted that +A0s59i6j9mY-01763-00428905-00429170 this was because Parsons was a political +A0s59i6j9mY-01764-00429171-00429434 romantic whose attitude was more +A0s59i6j9mY-01765-00429435-00429647 anti-authoritarian than anti-capitalist +A0s59i6j9mY-01766-00429648-00429893 Parsons later became critical of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01767-00429894-00430062 Marxist Leninist government of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01768-00430063-00430270 Soviet Union led by Joseph Stalin +A0s59i6j9mY-01769-00430271-00430557 sarcastically commenting that the +A0s59i6j9mY-01770-00430558-00430737 dictatorship of the proletariat as +A0s59i6j9mY-01771-00430738-00430950 merely temporary the state will +A0s59i6j9mY-01772-00430951-00431139 eventually wither away like a snark +A0s59i6j9mY-01773-00431139-00431375 hunter leaving us all free as Birds +A0s59i6j9mY-01774-00431376-00431637 meanwhile it may be necessary to kill +A0s59i6j9mY-01775-00431638-00431843 torture and imprison a few million +A0s59i6j9mY-01776-00431844-00432033 people but whose fault is it if they get +A0s59i6j9mY-01777-00432034-00432327 in the way of progress during the era of +A0s59i6j9mY-01778-00432328-00432566 McCarthyism and the second Red Scare in +A0s59i6j9mY-01779-00432567-00432834 the early 1950s Parsons was questioned +A0s59i6j9mY-01780-00432835-00433005 regarding his former links to the +A0s59i6j9mY-01781-00433006-00433203 communist movement by which time he +A0s59i6j9mY-01782-00433204-00433385 denied any connection to it instead +A0s59i6j9mY-01783-00433387-00433664 describing himself as an individualist +A0s59i6j9mY-01784-00433665-00433908 who was both anti-communist and +A0s59i6j9mY-01785-00433909-00434127 anti-fascist in reaction to the +A0s59i6j9mY-01786-00434128-00434372 McCarthyite red-baiting of scientists he +A0s59i6j9mY-01787-00434373-00434693 expressed disdain that science that was +A0s59i6j9mY-01788-00434694-00434937 going to save the world in HG Wells time +A0s59i6j9mY-01789-00434938-00435170 as regimented straight jacked and scared +A0s59i6j9mY-01790-00435171-00435354 shitless its universal language +A0s59i6j9mY-01791-00435355-00435710 diminished to one-word security Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01792-00435712-00435912 was politically influenced by Thelema +A0s59i6j9mY-01793-00435913-00436193 which holds to the ethical code of do +A0s59i6j9mY-01794-00436194-00436485 what thou wilt ik waiting this principle +A0s59i6j9mY-01795-00436485-00436674 to the libertarian views of some of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01796-00436675-00436884 founding fathers of the United States in +A0s59i6j9mY-01797-00436885-00437141 his article freedom as a lonely star +A0s59i6j9mY-01798-00437142-00437376 writing that by his own time these +A0s59i6j9mY-01799-00437377-00437664 values had been sold out by America and +A0s59i6j9mY-01800-00437664-00437904 for that reason the heart of America is +A0s59i6j9mY-01801-00437905-00438249 sick and the soul of America is dead he +A0s59i6j9mY-01802-00438250-00438474 proceeded to criticize many aspects of +A0s59i6j9mY-01803-00438475-00438708 contemporary u.s. society particularly +A0s59i6j9mY-01804-00438709-00438930 the police force remarking that the +A0s59i6j9mY-01805-00438931-00439227 police mind as usually of a sadistic and +A0s59i6j9mY-01806-00439228-00439487 homicidal trend and noting that they +A0s59i6j9mY-01807-00439488-00439731 carried out the ruthless punishment of +A0s59i6j9mY-01808-00439732-00440058 symbolic scapegoats such as African +A0s59i6j9mY-01809-00440059-00440277 Americans prostitutes alcoholics +A0s59i6j9mY-01810-00440278-00440447 homeless people and socio-political +A0s59i6j9mY-01811-00440448-00440706 radicals under the pretense of a country +A0s59i6j9mY-01812-00440707-00440954 that upheld liberty and justice for all +A0s59i6j9mY-01813-00440955-00441243 to bring about a freer future Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01814-00441243-00441450 believed in liberalizing attitudes to +A0s59i6j9mY-01815-00441451-00441654 sexual morality stating that in his +A0s59i6j9mY-01816-00441655-00441849 belief the publication of the Kinsey +A0s59i6j9mY-01817-00441850-00441987 Report and development of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01818-00441988-00442233 psychological sciences had a significant +A0s59i6j9mY-01819-00442234-00442455 and influence on Western society as the +A0s59i6j9mY-01820-00442456-00442641 creation of the atomic bomb and the +A0s59i6j9mY-01821-00442642-00442914 development of nuclear physics he also +A0s59i6j9mY-01822-00442914-00443085 believed that in the future the +A0s59i6j9mY-01823-00443085-00443291 restrictions on sexual morality within +A0s59i6j9mY-01824-00443292-00443522 society should be abolished in order to +A0s59i6j9mY-01825-00443523-00443672 bring about greater freedom and +A0s59i6j9mY-01826-00443673-00444068 individuality Parsons concluded that the +A0s59i6j9mY-01827-00444069-00444237 liberty of the individual as the +A0s59i6j9mY-01828-00444238-00444518 foundation of civilization no true +A0s59i6j9mY-01829-00444519-00444729 civilization is possible without this +A0s59i6j9mY-01830-00444730-00444930 Liberty and no state national or +A0s59i6j9mY-01831-00444931-00445152 international is stable in its absence +A0s59i6j9mY-01832-00445153-00445445 the proper relation between individual +A0s59i6j9mY-01833-00445446-00445635 liberty on the one hand and social +A0s59i6j9mY-01834-00445635-00445818 responsibility on the other as the +A0s59i6j9mY-01835-00445818-00445991 balance which will assure a stable +A0s59i6j9mY-01836-00445992-00446291 Society the only other road to social +A0s59i6j9mY-01837-00446292-00446466 equilibrium demands the total +A0s59i6j9mY-01838-00446467-00446739 annihilation of individuality there is +A0s59i6j9mY-01839-00446739-00446904 not further evasion of nature's +A0s59i6j9mY-01840-00446905-00447143 immemorial ultimatum change or perish +A0s59i6j9mY-01841-00447144-00447522 but the choice of changes ours Jack +A0s59i6j9mY-01842-00447522-00447764 Cashill American studies professor at +A0s59i6j9mY-01843-00447765-00447983 Purdue University argues that although +A0s59i6j9mY-01844-00447984-00448241 his literary career never got much +A0s59i6j9mY-01845-00448242-00448455 beyond pamphleteering and an untitled +A0s59i6j9mY-01846-00448456-00448805 anti-war anti-capitalist manuscript +A0s59i6j9mY-01847-00448806-00449018 Parsons played a significant role +A0s59i6j9mY-01848-00449019-00449253 greater than that of Church of Satan +A0s59i6j9mY-01849-00449254-00449522 founder Anton LaVey in shaping the +A0s59i6j9mY-01850-00449523-00449726 Californian counterculture of the 1960s +A0s59i6j9mY-01851-00449727-00449976 and Beyond through his influence on +A0s59i6j9mY-01852-00449977-00450158 contemporaries such as Hubbard and +A0s59i6j9mY-01853-00450159-00450462 Heinlein hue urban religious studies +A0s59i6j9mY-01854-00450463-00450732 professor at Ohio State University cites +A0s59i6j9mY-01855-00450733-00450897 Parsons witchcraft group as +A0s59i6j9mY-01856-00450897-00451116 precipitating the neo-pagan revival of +A0s59i6j9mY-01857-00451117-00451368 the 1950s science fiction writer and +A0s59i6j9mY-01858-00451368-00451637 occultist Robert Anton Wilson described +A0s59i6j9mY-01859-00451638-00451818 Parsons political writings as +A0s59i6j9mY-01860-00451818-00452157 exemplifying an ultra individualist who +A0s59i6j9mY-01861-00452158-00452447 exhibited a genuine sympathy for working +A0s59i6j9mY-01862-00452448-00452735 people strongly empathized with feminism +A0s59i6j9mY-01863-00452736-00452979 and held an antipathy toward patriarchy +A0s59i6j9mY-01864-00452980-00453183 comparable to that of John Stuart Mill +A0s59i6j9mY-01865-00453184-00453218 our +A0s59i6j9mY-01866-00453219-00453425 viewing in this context that parsons was +A0s59i6j9mY-01867-00453426-00453660 an influence on the american libertarian +A0s59i6j9mY-01868-00453660-00453827 and anarchist movements of the 20th +A0s59i6j9mY-01869-00453828-00454166 century parsons was also supportive of +A0s59i6j9mY-01870-00454167-00454337 the creation of the state of israel +A0s59i6j9mY-01871-00454338-00454556 making plans to emigrate there when his +A0s59i6j9mY-01872-00454557-00455299 military security clearance was revoked +A0s59i6j9mY-01873-00455300-00455891 topic legacy and influence +A0s59i6j9mY-01874-00455892-00456095 in the decades following his death +A0s59i6j9mY-01875-00456096-00456296 parsons was well remembered among the +A0s59i6j9mY-01876-00456297-00456479 western esoteric community his +A0s59i6j9mY-01877-00456480-00456677 scientific recognition frequently +A0s59i6j9mY-01878-00456678-00456932 amounted to a footnote for instance +A0s59i6j9mY-01879-00456933-00457112 English Stella might Kenneth grant +A0s59i6j9mY-01880-00457113-00457343 suggested that Parsons Babylon working +A0s59i6j9mY-01881-00457343-00457510 marked the start of the appearance of +A0s59i6j9mY-01882-00457512-00457735 flying saucers in the skies leading to +A0s59i6j9mY-01883-00457737-00457895 phenomena such as the Roswell UFO +A0s59i6j9mY-01884-00457896-00458218 incident and Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting +A0s59i6j9mY-01885-00458218-00458507 Cameron postulated that the 1952 +A0s59i6j9mY-01886-00458508-00458831 Washington DC UFO incident was a +A0s59i6j9mY-01887-00458832-00459114 spiritual reaction to Parsons death in +A0s59i6j9mY-01888-00459116-00459428 1954 she portrayed Babylon in American +A0s59i6j9mY-01889-00459429-00459622 elamite Kenneth angers short film +A0s59i6j9mY-01890-00459624-00459770 inauguration of the Pleasure Dome +A0s59i6j9mY-01891-00459771-00459995 viewing this cinematic depiction of a +A0s59i6j9mY-01892-00459996-00460154 thelema Critch ooha laz aiding the +A0s59i6j9mY-01893-00460155-00460385 literal invocation of Babylon begun by +A0s59i6j9mY-01894-00460385-00460595 Parsons working and later said that his +A0s59i6j9mY-01895-00460596-00460793 book of the Antichrist prophecies were +A0s59i6j9mY-01896-00460793-00460982 fulfilled through the manifestation of +A0s59i6j9mY-01897-00460983-00461270 Babylon in her person in December 1958 +A0s59i6j9mY-01898-00461271-00461516 JPL was integrated into the newly +A0s59i6j9mY-01899-00461517-00461720 established National Aeronautics and +A0s59i6j9mY-01900-00461721-00461839 Space Administration +A0s59i6j9mY-01901-00461841-00462029 after having built the Explorer 1 +A0s59i6j9mY-01902-00462030-00462239 satellite that commenced America's space +A0s59i6j9mY-01903-00462239-00462421 race with the Soviet Union +A0s59i6j9mY-01904-00462422-00462697 Aerojet was contracted by NASA to build +A0s59i6j9mY-01905-00462699-00462833 the main engine of the Apollo +A0s59i6j9mY-01906-00462834-00463043 command/service module and the space +A0s59i6j9mY-01907-00463043-00463328 shuttle orbital maneuvering system in a +A0s59i6j9mY-01908-00463329-00463574 letter to Frank Malina von Karman ranked +A0s59i6j9mY-01909-00463575-00463793 Parsons first in a list of figures he +A0s59i6j9mY-01910-00463793-00463964 viewed as most important to modern +A0s59i6j9mY-01911-00463964-00464141 rocketry and the foundation of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01912-00464142-00464405 American space program according to +A0s59i6j9mY-01913-00464406-00464696 Richard Metzger Wernher von Braun who +A0s59i6j9mY-01914-00464697-00464897 was nicknamed the father of rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-01915-00464897-00465235 science once argued that Parsons was +A0s59i6j9mY-01916-00465237-00465488 more worthy of this moniker in October +A0s59i6j9mY-01917-00465489-00465779 1968 Malina a pioneer in sounding +A0s59i6j9mY-01918-00465780-00466046 rocketry gave a speech at JPL in which +A0s59i6j9mY-01919-00466047-00466262 he highlighted Parsons contribution to +A0s59i6j9mY-01920-00466263-00466493 the u.s. rocket project and lamented how +A0s59i6j9mY-01921-00466493-00466682 it had come to be neglected crediting +A0s59i6j9mY-01922-00466683-00466946 him for making key contributions to the +A0s59i6j9mY-01923-00466947-00467183 development of storable propellants and +A0s59i6j9mY-01924-00467184-00467456 of long duration solid propellant agents +A0s59i6j9mY-01925-00467457-00467645 that play such an important role in +A0s59i6j9mY-01926-00467646-00468083 American and European space technology +A0s59i6j9mY-01927-00468084-00468362 the same month JPL held an open-access +A0s59i6j9mY-01928-00468363-00468638 event to mark the 32nd anniversary of +A0s59i6j9mY-01929-00468639-00468917 its foundation which featured a nativity +A0s59i6j9mY-01930-00468918-00469208 scene of mannequins reconstructing the +A0s59i6j9mY-01931-00469209-00469568 November 1936 photograph of the GLC IT +A0s59i6j9mY-01932-00469568-00469763 group and erected a monument +A0s59i6j9mY-01933-00469764-00470012 commemorating their first rocket test on +A0s59i6j9mY-01934-00470013-00470372 Halloween 1936 among the aerospace +A0s59i6j9mY-01935-00470372-00470645 industry JPL was nicknamed as standing +A0s59i6j9mY-01936-00470646-00471020 for Jack Parsons laboratory or Jack +A0s59i6j9mY-01937-00471021-00471299 Parsons lives the International +A0s59i6j9mY-01938-00471300-00471512 Astronomical Union decided to name a +A0s59i6j9mY-01939-00471513-00471692 crater on the far side of the moon +A0s59i6j9mY-01940-00471693-00472124 Parsons after him in 1972 JPL later +A0s59i6j9mY-01941-00472125-00472355 credited him for making distinctive +A0s59i6j9mY-01942-00472356-00472580 technical innovations that advanced +A0s59i6j9mY-01943-00472581-00472901 early efforts in rocket engineering with +A0s59i6j9mY-01944-00472902-00473099 aerospace journalist Craig Cove alt +A0s59i6j9mY-01945-00473100-00473321 stating that the work of Parsons chienne +A0s59i6j9mY-01946-00473322-00473675 Shui Sun and the GLC IT group planted +A0s59i6j9mY-01947-00473676-00473957 the seeds for JPL to become preeminent +A0s59i6j9mY-01948-00473958-00474305 in space and rocketry many of Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01949-00474306-00474512 writings were posthumously published as +A0s59i6j9mY-01950-00474513-00474806 freedom as a two-edged sword in 1989 a +A0s59i6j9mY-01951-00474807-00475064 compilation Co edited by Cameron and OTO +A0s59i6j9mY-01952-00475064-00475316 leader hymenaeus bethe ceremonial name +A0s59i6j9mY-01953-00475317-00475556 of musician William breeze which incited +A0s59i6j9mY-01954-00475557-00475742 a resurgence of interest in Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01955-00475743-00475913 within occult and countercultural +A0s59i6j9mY-01956-00475914-00476231 circles for example comic book artists +A0s59i6j9mY-01957-00476232-00476474 an occultist Alan Moore noted Parsons as +A0s59i6j9mY-01958-00476475-00476717 a creative influence in a 1998 interview +A0s59i6j9mY-01959-00476718-00477038 with Clifford meth the Cameron Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01960-00477039-00477193 foundation was founded as an +A0s59i6j9mY-01961-00477195-00477472 incorporated company in 2006 with the +A0s59i6j9mY-01962-00477474-00477674 intention of conserving and promoting +A0s59i6j9mY-01963-00477675-00477878 Parsons writings and Cameron's artwork +A0s59i6j9mY-01964-00477879-00478168 and in 2014 foger esoterica published +A0s59i6j9mY-01965-00478170-00478409 songs for the witch woman a limited +A0s59i6j9mY-01966-00478410-00478628 edition book of poems by Parsons with +A0s59i6j9mY-01967-00478629-00478838 illustrations by Cameron released to +A0s59i6j9mY-01968-00478839-00479047 coincide with his centenary an +A0s59i6j9mY-01969-00479047-00479293 exhibition of the same name was held at +A0s59i6j9mY-01970-00479295-00479492 the Museum of Contemporary Art Los +A0s59i6j9mY-01971-00479493-00479903 Angeles in 1999 feral house published +A0s59i6j9mY-01972-00479904-00480149 the biography sex and Rockets the occult +A0s59i6j9mY-01973-00480150-00480404 world of Jack Parsons by John Carter who +A0s59i6j9mY-01974-00480405-00480610 expressed the opinion that Parsons had +A0s59i6j9mY-01975-00480612-00480821 accomplished more in under five years of +A0s59i6j9mY-01976-00480822-00481052 research than Robert H Goddard had in +A0s59i6j9mY-01977-00481053-00481262 his lifetime and said that his role in +A0s59i6j9mY-01978-00481263-00481439 the development of rocket technology +A0s59i6j9mY-01979-00481439-00481649 had been neglected by historians of +A0s59i6j9mY-01980-00481650-00481850 science Carter thought that parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01981-00481851-00482033 abilities and accomplishments as an +A0s59i6j9mY-01982-00482034-00482237 occultist had been overestimated and +A0s59i6j9mY-01983-00482238-00482459 exaggerated among Western esotericist +A0s59i6j9mY-01984-00482460-00482722 emphasizing his disowning by Crowley for +A0s59i6j9mY-01985-00482723-00483022 practicing magic beyond his grade feral +A0s59i6j9mY-01986-00483023-00483209 house republished the work as a new +A0s59i6j9mY-01987-00483210-00483470 edition in 2004 accompanied with an +A0s59i6j9mY-01988-00483471-00483700 introduction by Robert Anton Wilson +A0s59i6j9mY-01989-00483701-00484004 Wilson believed that parsons was the one +A0s59i6j9mY-01990-00484005-00484216 single individual who contributed the +A0s59i6j9mY-01991-00484217-00484447 most to rocket science describing him as +A0s59i6j9mY-01992-00484448-00484712 being very strange very brilliant very +A0s59i6j9mY-01993-00484713-00484976 funny and very tormented and considering +A0s59i6j9mY-01994-00484977-00485164 it noteworthy that the day of Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01995-00485165-00485357 birth was the predicted beginning of the +A0s59i6j9mY-01996-00485358-00485588 apocalypse advocated by Charles taze +A0s59i6j9mY-01997-00485589-00485807 Russell the founder of the Bible student +A0s59i6j9mY-01998-00485808-00486038 movement a second biography of Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-01999-00486039-00486335 was published in 2005 through Wyden Feld +A0s59i6j9mY-02000-00486335-00486524 and Nicolson with the title strange +A0s59i6j9mY-02001-00486525-00486755 angel the otherworldly life of rocket +A0s59i6j9mY-02002-00486756-00486997 scientist John Whiteside Parsons it was +A0s59i6j9mY-02003-00486998-00487195 written by George pendel who described +A0s59i6j9mY-02004-00487196-00487427 Parsons as the Che Guevara of occultism +A0s59i6j9mY-02005-00487428-00487645 and said that although Parsons would not +A0s59i6j9mY-02006-00487646-00487843 live to see his dream of space travel +A0s59i6j9mY-02007-00487844-00488095 come true he was essential to making it +A0s59i6j9mY-02008-00488096-00488156 a reality +A0s59i6j9mY-02009-00488157-00488333 Kendall considered that the cultural +A0s59i6j9mY-02010-00488334-00488588 stigma attached to Parsons occultism was +A0s59i6j9mY-02011-00488589-00488768 the primary cause of his low public +A0s59i6j9mY-02012-00488768-00489029 profile noting that like many scientific +A0s59i6j9mY-02013-00489030-00489235 Mavericks Parsons was eventually +A0s59i6j9mY-02014-00489237-00489449 discarded by the establishment once he +A0s59i6j9mY-02015-00489450-00489695 had served his purpose it was this +A0s59i6j9mY-02016-00489696-00489905 unorthodox mindset creatively +A0s59i6j9mY-02017-00489906-00490109 facilitated by his science fiction +A0s59i6j9mY-02018-00490110-00490297 fandom and willingness to believe in +A0s59i6j9mY-02019-00490298-00490532 magic sifaka see pendel argued that +A0s59i6j9mY-02020-00490533-00490741 allowed him to break scientific barriers +A0s59i6j9mY-02021-00490742-00490931 previously thought to be indestructible +A0s59i6j9mY-02022-00490932-00491185 commenting that Parsons saw both space +A0s59i6j9mY-02023-00491187-00491426 and magic as ways of exploring these new +A0s59i6j9mY-02024-00491427-00491639 frontiers one breaking free from Earth +A0s59i6j9mY-02025-00491639-00491855 literally and metaphysically l ron +A0s59i6j9mY-02026-00491856-00492085 Hubbard's role in Parsons agave lodge +A0s59i6j9mY-02027-00492087-00492316 and the ensuing yacht scam were explored +A0s59i6j9mY-02028-00492317-00492560 in Russell Miller's 1987 hubbard +A0s59i6j9mY-02029-00492560-00492875 biography barefaced messiah parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-02030-00492876-00493112 involvement in the agape Lodge were also +A0s59i6j9mY-02031-00493113-00493316 discussed by Martin P star in his +A0s59i6j9mY-02032-00493317-00493489 history of the American phthalimide +A0s59i6j9mY-02033-00493490-00493766 movement the unknown God WT Smith and +A0s59i6j9mY-02034-00493767-00493988 the Fela mites published by Titan press +A0s59i6j9mY-02035-00493989-00494408 in 2003 the Chi Book of the Dead 2004 +A0s59i6j9mY-02036-00494409-00494684 based on the BBC Game Show included a +A0s59i6j9mY-02037-00494685-00494837 Parsons obituary +A0s59i6j9mY-02038-00494838-00495074 Carson's occult partnership with Hubbard +A0s59i6j9mY-02039-00495075-00495371 was also mentioned in Alex Gibney's 2015 +A0s59i6j9mY-02040-00495372-00495653 documentary film going clear Scientology +A0s59i6j9mY-02041-00495654-00495905 and the prison of belief produced by HBO +A0s59i6j9mY-02042-00495906-00496039 before his death +A0s59i6j9mY-02043-00496041-00496235 Parsons appeared in science fiction +A0s59i6j9mY-02044-00496235-00496445 writer Anthony Boucher's murder mystery +A0s59i6j9mY-02045-00496446-00496700 novel rockets through the morgue 1942 +A0s59i6j9mY-02046-00496701-00496901 under the guise of mad scientist +A0s59i6j9mY-02047-00496902-00497159 character Hugo chantrelle another +A0s59i6j9mY-02048-00497160-00497402 fictional character based on Parsons was +A0s59i6j9mY-02049-00497403-00497630 Courtney James a wealthy socialite who +A0s59i6j9mY-02050-00497631-00497930 features in L Sprague de Kamp's 1956 +A0s59i6j9mY-02051-00497931-00498149 short time travel story a gun for +A0s59i6j9mY-02052-00498150-00498542 dinosaur in 2005 Pasadena Babylon a +A0s59i6j9mY-02053-00498543-00498755 stage play about Parsons written by +A0s59i6j9mY-02054-00498756-00498985 George D Morgan and directed by Brian +A0s59i6j9mY-02055-00498987-00499175 Brophy premiered at Caltech as a +A0s59i6j9mY-02056-00499176-00499403 production by its theater arts group in +A0s59i6j9mY-02057-00499404-00499585 2010 the same year cellar-door +A0s59i6j9mY-02058-00499587-00499817 publishing released Richard carboneau +A0s59i6j9mY-02059-00499818-00500047 and Robin Simon Angie's graphic novel +A0s59i6j9mY-02060-00500049-00500272 the Marvel a biography of Jack Parsons +A0s59i6j9mY-02061-00500274-00500654 in 2012 the Science Channel broadcast a +A0s59i6j9mY-02062-00500655-00500912 documentary dramatization titled magical +A0s59i6j9mY-02063-00500913-00501131 Jet Propulsion in an episode of its Dark +A0s59i6j9mY-02064-00501132-00501347 Matters twisted but true television +A0s59i6j9mY-02065-00501347-00501656 series Parsons was portrayed by English +A0s59i6j9mY-02066-00501657-00501917 actor Adam Houghton independent record +A0s59i6j9mY-02067-00501918-00502160 label Drag City released Parsons Blues +A0s59i6j9mY-02068-00502160-00502370 an instrumental tribute single by +A0s59i6j9mY-02069-00502371-00502604 experimental rock act 6 organs of +A0s59i6j9mY-02070-00502605-00502853 admittance in 2014 AMC networks +A0s59i6j9mY-02071-00502854-00503120 announced plans for a serial television +A0s59i6j9mY-02072-00503121-00503339 dramatization of Parsons life but in +A0s59i6j9mY-02073-00503339-00503585 2016 it was reported that the series +A0s59i6j9mY-02074-00503585-00503930 will not be going forward in 2017 the +A0s59i6j9mY-02075-00503931-00504193 project was adopted as a web television +A0s59i6j9mY-02076-00504195-00504572 series by CBS all access strange angel +A0s59i6j9mY-02077-00504572-00504782 produced by Mark Heyman and starring +A0s59i6j9mY-02078-00504783-00504943 Irish actor Jack Rayner +A0s59i6j9mY-02079-00504945-00505216 premiered in June 2018 +A0s59i6j9mY-02080-00505217-00505492 in 2018 parsons was featured in an +A0s59i6j9mY-02081-00505493-00506208 episode of the amazon series lor +A0s59i6j9mY-02082-00506209-00506892 topic patents +A0s59i6j9mY-02083-00506893-00507077 you +A0s59i6j9mY-02084-00507078-00507601 topic see also +A0s59i6j9mY-02085-00507602-00508191 Chaos magic New Age quantum mysticism +A0s59i6j9mY-02086-00508192-00508605 Scientology and the occult UFO religion +A0s59i6j9mY-02087-00508606-00508987 equals equals notes +A1PN6Sw3w78-00000-00000500-00001231 [Music] +A1PN6Sw3w78-00001-00001232-00001439 zombies basically +A1PN6Sw3w78-00002-00001440-00001655 and yeah this is this is because this is +A1PN6Sw3w78-00003-00001655-00001967 for my uh 25 subscriber special +A1PN6Sw3w78-00004-00001968-00002295 yeah we're so close to 1 000 views so +A1PN6Sw3w78-00005-00002296-00002487 if you want to view some of my some of +A1PN6Sw3w78-00006-00002488-00002639 my videos also +A1PN6Sw3w78-00007-00002640-00002950 this is doing nothing because +A1PN6Sw3w78-00008-00002951-00004103 i i can't kill anything with this thing +A1PN6Sw3w78-00009-00004104-00004879 poop +A1PN6Sw3w78-00010-00004880-00005167 yeah anyways guys thank you for the 25 +A1PN6Sw3w78-00011-00005168-00005286 subs +A1PN6Sw3w78-00012-00005287-00005631 also thank you for almost 800 um +A1PN6Sw3w78-00013-00005632-00005999 800 views on my whole entire channel +A1PN6Sw3w78-00014-00006000-00006238 let's go into let's go into the road to +A1PN6Sw3w78-00015-00006239-00006550 30 subscribers +A1PN6Sw3w78-00016-00006551-00006775 yeah guys currently i'm trying to i'm +A1PN6Sw3w78-00017-00006776-00006863 trying to learn +A1PN6Sw3w78-00018-00006864-00007198 how to animate so maybe you'll be seeing +A1PN6Sw3w78-00019-00007200-00007414 those in the future but not really in +A1PN6Sw3w78-00020-00007415-00007663 the future because +A1PN6Sw3w78-00021-00007664-00007839 uh because i haven't even learned it yet +A1PN6Sw3w78-00022-00007840-00008359 so +A1PN6Sw3w78-00023-00008360-00010829 and i'm there guys +A1PN6Sw3w78-00024-00010830-00011342 [Music] +A1PN6Sw3w78-00025-00011343-00011663 stamina run run just +A1PN6Sw3w78-00026-00011664-00012551 okay there are corrupt zombies +A1PN6Sw3w78-00027-00012552-00014079 get on my way zombies +A1PN6Sw3w78-00028-00014080-00014327 kwp that's better than nothing this is +A1PN6Sw3w78-00029-00014328-00014471 better than nothing +A1PN6Sw3w78-00030-00014472-00014822 also it kind of sucks because can't kill +A1PN6Sw3w78-00031-00014823-00015055 zombies in one hit to the head +A1PN6Sw3w78-00032-00015056-00015694 so yeah this thing kind of sucks +A1PN6Sw3w78-00033-00015695-00016399 and oh it actually is one hit okay +A1PN6Sw3w78-00034-00016400-00016958 headshot +A1PN6Sw3w78-00035-00016959-00017167 yeah problem is i can't i can't see +A1PN6Sw3w78-00036-00017168-00017367 behind me +A1PN6Sw3w78-00037-00017368-00017575 or i can't jump so i can't just jump out +A1PN6Sw3w78-00038-00017576-00018079 the window do something +A1PN6Sw3w78-00039-00018080-00018814 oh no yes +A1PN6Sw3w78-00040-00018815-00019124 yeah oh yes +A1PN6Sw3w78-00041-00019125-00019503 [Music] +A1PN6Sw3w78-00042-00019504-00020086 oh god +A1PN6Sw3w78-00043-00020087-00020279 my youtube channel isn't doing very well +A1PN6Sw3w78-00044-00020280-00020494 so if you want to go support me +A1PN6Sw3w78-00045-00020495-00020719 uh just subscribe that that's good +A1PN6Sw3w78-00046-00020720-00020814 enough +A1PN6Sw3w78-00047-00020815-00021014 subscribe for more good roblox content +A1PN6Sw3w78-00048-00021015-00021214 because i make really good videos and i +A1PN6Sw3w78-00049-00021215-00021422 upload every single 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+A1PN6Sw3w78-00066-00028083-00028223 me +A1PN6Sw3w78-00067-00028224-00028439 he's probably gonna oh no he died he got +A1PN6Sw3w78-00068-00028439-00028607 it that's a good gun +A1PN6Sw3w78-00069-00028608-00029070 ak47 good and +A1PN6Sw3w78-00070-00029072-00029646 no more +A1PN6Sw3w78-00071-00029647-00029823 no i'm probably gonna get the joker card +A1PN6Sw3w78-00072-00029824-00030335 so i'm just gonna go to different places +A1PN6Sw3w78-00073-00030336-00030655 oh no i got actually something +A1PN6Sw3w78-00074-00030656-00031014 all day three +A1PN6Sw3w78-00075-00031016-00031335 [Music] +A1PN6Sw3w78-00076-00031336-00031495 you can actually both penetrate in this +A1PN6Sw3w78-00077-00031495-00031767 game so that's like really good +A1PN6Sw3w78-00078-00031768-00032046 for when you're like in a little deep in +A1PN6Sw3w78-00079-00032047-00032262 deep crap like me like right now +A1PN6Sw3w78-00080-00032263-00032846 i just mowed down that horde of zombies +A1PN6Sw3w78-00081-00032847-00033631 because it's very fast firey +A1PN6Sw3w78-00082-00033632-00034207 so quicker +A1PN6Sw3w78-00083-00034208-00034471 i have almost all of my kills are +A1PN6Sw3w78-00084-00034472-00034567 headshots +A1PN6Sw3w78-00085-00034568-00034839 like i just missed one headshot but +A1PN6Sw3w78-00086-00034840-00035087 mostly all my kills are headshots so +A1PN6Sw3w78-00087-00035088-00035646 yeah that's going to be the joke card +A1PN6Sw3w78-00088-00035647-00036071 yep i knew it this is probably oh yes +A1PN6Sw3w78-00089-00036072-00036367 i get to use my beret and i have no ammo +A1PN6Sw3w78-00090-00036368-00036815 for it +A1PN6Sw3w78-00091-00036816-00036959 okay guys that's gonna be the end of the +A1PN6Sw3w78-00092-00036960-00037135 video i hope you enjoyed +A1PN6Sw3w78-00093-00037136-00037446 make sure to like and subscribe um +A1PN6Sw3w78-00094-00037447-00037702 also if you're if you're a longtime +A1PN6Sw3w78-00095-00037703-00037862 subscriber and you want to see a 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goodbye +A27Z_brb8IY-00000-00000494-00000742 good afternoon everyone it's a pleasure +A27Z_brb8IY-00001-00000743-00000890 to be here today and thank you for +A27Z_brb8IY-00002-00000891-00001049 organizers for allowing me to come and +A27Z_brb8IY-00003-00001050-00001310 give a talk here currently see over +A27Z_brb8IY-00004-00001311-00001522 Startup Gary started in April last year +A27Z_brb8IY-00005-00001523-00001757 prior to all that I was an academic for +A27Z_brb8IY-00006-00001757-00001942 about 20 years working with large +A27Z_brb8IY-00007-00001943-00002087 industries around Australia +A27Z_brb8IY-00008-00002088-00002345 mainly mining aviation and stevedoring +A27Z_brb8IY-00009-00002346-00002557 focusing on not just autonomous robots +A27Z_brb8IY-00010-00002558-00002908 but also autonomous operations and in +A27Z_brb8IY-00011-00002909-00003091 parallel to all that about the last 15 +A27Z_brb8IY-00012-00003092-00003350 years I've received just over 30 million +A27Z_brb8IY-00013-00003351-00003470 dollars worth of R&D funding from +A27Z_brb8IY-00014-00003471-00003638 various RDCs to try and look at what +A27Z_brb8IY-00015-00003639-00003827 does it mean to build on farm robots +A27Z_brb8IY-00016-00003828-00004046 field robotic tools things that can +A27Z_brb8IY-00017-00004047-00004253 operate 24/7 in different settings and +A27Z_brb8IY-00018-00004254-00004463 can do certain tasks on farm and they're +A27Z_brb8IY-00019-00004464-00004634 really around those that last 15 years +A27Z_brb8IY-00020-00004635-00004784 was really around exploration of those +A27Z_brb8IY-00021-00004785-00005042 different types of activities so the way +A27Z_brb8IY-00022-00005043-00005177 I've broken up this talk is I'm just +A27Z_brb8IY-00023-00005178-00005399 going to talk about bots so we built +A27Z_brb8IY-00024-00005400-00005579 that we thought might be useful for the +A27Z_brb8IY-00025-00005580-00005762 top 20% BOTS that we built that we +A27Z_brb8IY-00026-00005763-00005888 thought might be useful for everyone +A27Z_brb8IY-00027-00005889-00006074 else and then I want to touch a little +A27Z_brb8IY-00028-00006075-00006256 bit on on thinking about what does it +A27Z_brb8IY-00029-00006257-00006464 mean to go from just robots to +A27Z_brb8IY-00030-00006465-00006647 operations and and the reason why I +A27Z_brb8IY-00031-00006648-00006814 wanted to touch on that is because as +A27Z_brb8IY-00032-00006815-00007025 growers as farmers what you want to be +A27Z_brb8IY-00033-00007026-00007156 thinking about is what does the +A27Z_brb8IY-00034-00007158-00007322 operation look like in five 10 years +A27Z_brb8IY-00035-00007323-00007511 time to dictate about what you want to +A27Z_brb8IY-00036-00007512-00007667 do now with the robotic solutions as +A27Z_brb8IY-00037-00007668-00007841 opposed to the other way around so I'm +A27Z_brb8IY-00038-00007842-00007952 just going to touch a little bit on that +A27Z_brb8IY-00039-00007953-00008146 and really just by giving some examples +A27Z_brb8IY-00040-00008147-00008296 from other industries that we can learn +A27Z_brb8IY-00041-00008297-00008648 from in Australia the first I'm hoping +A27Z_brb8IY-00042-00008649-00008774 that there's no volume on they spent the +A27Z_brb8IY-00043-00008775-00008903 first bot that I'm going to talk about +A27Z_brb8IY-00044-00008904-00009059 is Ripper it was built for the +A27Z_brb8IY-00045-00009060-00009212 horticulture industry solar electric +A27Z_brb8IY-00046-00009213-00009371 24-hour operation on a good day like +A27Z_brb8IY-00047-00009372-00009617 today runs about 12 hours of batteries +A27Z_brb8IY-00048-00009618-00009770 but it runs the solar energies just +A27Z_brb8IY-00049-00009771-00009935 sufficient to kind of move the bottle +A27Z_brb8IY-00050-00009936-00010199 long can do real-time AI to take the +A27Z_brb8IY-00051-00010200-00010378 individual plants and start to look at +A27Z_brb8IY-00052-00010379-00010616 things such as crop growth monitoring as +A27Z_brb8IY-00053-00010617-00010796 well as plant health as it's going +A27Z_brb8IY-00054-00010797-00010988 through because you can take the plant +A27Z_brb8IY-00055-00010989-00011102 you can also start to do things like +A27Z_brb8IY-00056-00011103-00011303 your individual plant yield estimation +A27Z_brb8IY-00057-00011304-00011564 and that becomes a significant tool if +A27Z_brb8IY-00058-00011565-00011687 you can take the plant you can also just +A27Z_brb8IY-00059-00011688-00011852 take other things such as weeds in this +A27Z_brb8IY-00060-00011853-00011987 particular case in a bit we had a big +A27Z_brb8IY-00061-00011988-00012125 push in terms of looking at non chemical +A27Z_brb8IY-00062-00012126-00012310 weeding and this is just one of the +A27Z_brb8IY-00063-00012311-00012421 tools we've developed a whole bunch of +A27Z_brb8IY-00064-00012422-00012608 different mechanical tools laser tool +A27Z_brb8IY-00065-00012609-00012749 steaming tools to try and look at how +A27Z_brb8IY-00066-00012750-00012886 you might remove weeds without any +A27Z_brb8IY-00067-00012887-00013235 chemical use at all and we also looked +A27Z_brb8IY-00068-00013236-00013388 at other aspects so for example you'll +A27Z_brb8IY-00069-00013388-00013538 see here the directed spraying +A27Z_brb8IY-00070-00013538-00013738 this is a target every single plant and +A27Z_brb8IY-00071-00013740-00013901 based on the size of the plant measuring +A27Z_brb8IY-00072-00013902-00014005 the right amount of fluid you want to +A27Z_brb8IY-00073-00014006-00014171 disperse on that individual plant as +A27Z_brb8IY-00074-00014172-00014390 you're going through and we also looked +A27Z_brb8IY-00075-00014391-00014519 at water monitoring and bringing up a +A27Z_brb8IY-00076-00014519-00014690 look at water conductivity so being able +A27Z_brb8IY-00077-00014691-00014840 to measure the kind of process near a +A27Z_brb8IY-00078-00014841-00015104 plant the big thing that I want you to +A27Z_brb8IY-00079-00015105-00015230 kind of actually I'll show you one more +A27Z_brb8IY-00080-00015231-00015394 after we go through this is it really +A27Z_brb8IY-00081-00015395-00015587 just kind of mapping out the what's +A27Z_brb8IY-00082-00015588-00015713 going on under source so it's constantly +A27Z_brb8IY-00083-00015713-00015844 every few meters it's giving you a +A27Z_brb8IY-00084-00015845-00016151 sample the other thing the farmers were +A27Z_brb8IY-00085-00016152-00016283 always asking us about was seen a +A27Z_brb8IY-00086-00016284-00016430 foreign object detection and whether we +A27Z_brb8IY-00087-00016431-00016547 could actually remove foreign object so +A27Z_brb8IY-00088-00016548-00016763 we just tagged a Rio B vacuum cleaner we +A27Z_brb8IY-00089-00016764-00016991 bolted it on underneath the bot and then +A27Z_brb8IY-00090-00016992-00017090 we just looked up whether or not you +A27Z_brb8IY-00091-00017091-00017197 could just detect foreign objects +A27Z_brb8IY-00092-00017198-00017243 remover +A27Z_brb8IY-00093-00017244-00017414 they wanted us to suck up frogs and +A27Z_brb8IY-00094-00017415-00017597 mulch them but the University Ethics +A27Z_brb8IY-00095-00017598-00017816 Department wasn't gonna allow that so +A27Z_brb8IY-00096-00017817-00018019 it's just purely just post-it notes for +A27Z_brb8IY-00097-00018020-00018254 now but what I want you to imagine is +A27Z_brb8IY-00098-00018255-00018467 the capabilities now what we're getting +A27Z_brb8IY-00099-00018468-00018821 to which is is this 24/7 bot that can +A27Z_brb8IY-00100-00018822-00018971 not only just move up and down maybe do +A27Z_brb8IY-00101-00018972-00019097 some weeding tasks or something like +A27Z_brb8IY-00102-00019098-00019196 that but you're also detecting +A27Z_brb8IY-00103-00019197-00019358 individual plants you're sampling of the +A27Z_brb8IY-00104-00019359-00019565 soil you're acting on decisions so a lot +A27Z_brb8IY-00105-00019566-00019672 of stuff that we've been talking about +A27Z_brb8IY-00106-00019673-00019997 about information to decision making is +A27Z_brb8IY-00107-00019998-00020125 starting to get closer and closer where +A27Z_brb8IY-00108-00020126-00020281 that's where that temporal space is +A27Z_brb8IY-00109-00020282-00020428 becoming very very short and it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00110-00020429-00020600 happening in real time on the bot on the +A27Z_brb8IY-00111-00020601-00020777 farm and hence the relationship between +A27Z_brb8IY-00112-00020778-00020972 the farm and the bot is more about when +A27Z_brb8IY-00113-00020973-00021100 you see certain things this is what I +A27Z_brb8IY-00114-00021101-00021260 want you to do and starting to increase +A27Z_brb8IY-00115-00021261-00021547 that autonomy unfun we looked at how we +A27Z_brb8IY-00116-00021548-00021683 could spread the capability that +A27Z_brb8IY-00117-00021684-00021830 robotics across the different industries +A27Z_brb8IY-00118-00021831-00022022 because at the end of the day you don't +A27Z_brb8IY-00119-00022023-00022228 want to build a robot for a certain farm +A27Z_brb8IY-00120-00022229-00022364 and then build a different road if erm +A27Z_brb8IY-00121-00022365-00022502 you try and look at scale and from that +A27Z_brb8IY-00122-00022503-00022658 scale trying to reduce the cost so it +A27Z_brb8IY-00123-00022659-00022819 makes it easier for the farmers to adopt +A27Z_brb8IY-00124-00022820-00023018 this is another example of the bot going +A27Z_brb8IY-00125-00023019-00023228 up and down tree rows little white box +A27Z_brb8IY-00126-00023229-00023347 that you see up the middle there is +A27Z_brb8IY-00127-00023348-00023525 detecting individual apples doing crop +A27Z_brb8IY-00128-00023526-00023756 yield information as it's going through +A27Z_brb8IY-00129-00023757-00023900 we've also looked at detecting flowers +A27Z_brb8IY-00130-00023901-00024055 as well so you can start to look at +A27Z_brb8IY-00131-00024056-00024253 assessments between flower and apple +A27Z_brb8IY-00132-00024254-00024434 count in this case he's got a little +A27Z_brb8IY-00133-00024435-00024550 fight but you know which is just firing +A27Z_brb8IY-00134-00024551-00024752 away fluid for us as robot assist we +A27Z_brb8IY-00135-00024753-00024884 were just mucking around with soil just +A27Z_brb8IY-00136-00024885-00025049 try it this was a fire every apple that +A27Z_brb8IY-00137-00025050-00025231 looks like fun but the growers were +A27Z_brb8IY-00138-00025232-00025346 coming on they're saying well it's great +A27Z_brb8IY-00139-00025347-00025463 if you can do things like that then it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00140-00025464-00025669 directed pest assessments and being able +A27Z_brb8IY-00141-00025670-00025831 to direct only certain amounts of spray +A27Z_brb8IY-00142-00025832-00026059 at particular parts of the tree so it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00143-00026060-00026156 things like that that we were trying to +A27Z_brb8IY-00144-00026157-00026495 look at as we as we spread through one +A27Z_brb8IY-00145-00026495-00026660 of the recent projects that were looking +A27Z_brb8IY-00146-00026661-00026801 at is with the grains industry and +A27Z_brb8IY-00147-00026802-00026864 that's looking at +A27Z_brb8IY-00148-00026866-00027111 green on green mechanical weeding and +A27Z_brb8IY-00149-00027112-00027270 again using the bot we've just kind of +A27Z_brb8IY-00150-00027270-00027438 valid it out a little bit this little +A27Z_brb8IY-00151-00027439-00027630 pod that you see on the left there sits +A27Z_brb8IY-00152-00027631-00027845 underneath so this pod here sits +A27Z_brb8IY-00153-00027847-00028044 underneath the bot there and basically +A27Z_brb8IY-00154-00028045-00028445 it's a pod that splits apart the grain +A27Z_brb8IY-00155-00028447-00028710 plants and then underneath there there's +A27Z_brb8IY-00156-00028711-00028863 a little camera system looking down and +A27Z_brb8IY-00157-00028864-00029094 it's detecting individual weeds and if +A27Z_brb8IY-00158-00029095-00029199 it detects of weeds it will just +A27Z_brb8IY-00159-00029200-00029373 mechanically chip away or grind away at +A27Z_brb8IY-00160-00029374-00029589 that particular weed okay so you'll see +A27Z_brb8IY-00161-00029589-00029862 here the bots moving along and here it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00162-00029863-00030039 doing real-time weed detection as it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00163-00030039-00030243 going through to take it we turn up +A27Z_brb8IY-00164-00030244-00030438 grass as well as turn up weed as well as +A27Z_brb8IY-00165-00030439-00030657 very grass so just going through that +A27Z_brb8IY-00166-00030658-00030855 process and detecting each one of those +A27Z_brb8IY-00167-00030856-00030993 and this can operate it you know if +A27Z_brb8IY-00168-00030994-00031104 you're looking at that speed we can +A27Z_brb8IY-00169-00031105-00031314 operate probably twice as fast as now +A27Z_brb8IY-00170-00031314-00031536 but again you're looking at 24/7 +A27Z_brb8IY-00171-00031537-00031781 capability as you're going through and +A27Z_brb8IY-00172-00031782-00032019 here you'll see it this little bottom +A27Z_brb8IY-00173-00032020-00032142 picture here is just showing you when it +A27Z_brb8IY-00174-00032143-00032256 comes along it just kind of little +A27Z_brb8IY-00175-00032257-00032532 grinder that just chips away at that +A27Z_brb8IY-00176-00032533-00032631 weed and just we're going to see the +A27Z_brb8IY-00177-00032632-00032748 weed it just comes along and it will +A27Z_brb8IY-00178-00032749-00032913 just grind away that's just one of the +A27Z_brb8IY-00179-00032914-00033099 tools we also looked at we also looked +A27Z_brb8IY-00180-00033100-00033372 at laser weeding which which offers some +A27Z_brb8IY-00181-00033373-00033591 promise here the nice thing about laser +A27Z_brb8IY-00182-00033592-00033744 weeding is that you can actually direct +A27Z_brb8IY-00183-00033745-00033888 it to the individual weed and at a +A27Z_brb8IY-00184-00033889-00034026 particular location if you get the +A27Z_brb8IY-00185-00034027-00034278 frequency of the laser beam right you +A27Z_brb8IY-00186-00034279-00034464 actually boil the cells on the inside of +A27Z_brb8IY-00187-00034465-00034532 the plant so you're not actually +A27Z_brb8IY-00188-00034533-00034734 boosting the plants into flames or +A27Z_brb8IY-00189-00034735-00034878 anything like that it's really kind of +A27Z_brb8IY-00190-00034879-00035013 like an internal self-destruction +A27Z_brb8IY-00191-00035014-00035187 process if you can just kind of get it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00192-00035188-00035313 almost like microwaving it but if you +A27Z_brb8IY-00193-00035314-00035433 can get it right you can actually bother +A27Z_brb8IY-00194-00035434-00035646 the cells in turn or just distract the +A27Z_brb8IY-00195-00035647-00035973 source internally something completely +A27Z_brb8IY-00196-00035974-00036168 different we're looking at other BOTS so +A27Z_brb8IY-00197-00036169-00036290 this was a full of grazing livestock +A27Z_brb8IY-00198-00036291-00036546 industry I'll pause just for a second +A27Z_brb8IY-00199-00036547-00036753 before I play it this one here so swag +A27Z_brb8IY-00200-00036754-00036918 bot we called it but it's a four-wheel +A27Z_brb8IY-00201-00036919-00037110 drive for steer but it has a little +A27Z_brb8IY-00202-00037111-00037245 pivot point on the middle so it allows +A27Z_brb8IY-00203-00037246-00037422 us to go over logs and rocks and into +A27Z_brb8IY-00204-00037423-00037647 ditches and so forth when when we first +A27Z_brb8IY-00205-00037648-00037776 put this into the industry the growers +A27Z_brb8IY-00206-00037777-00037935 like oh great we want you to herd the +A27Z_brb8IY-00207-00037936-00038109 animals and so we did the classic thing +A27Z_brb8IY-00208-00038110-00038262 which is drive the bot into the animals +A27Z_brb8IY-00209-00038263-00038388 and watch all the animals run away and +A27Z_brb8IY-00210-00038389-00038655 nothing worked at the end of it all but +A27Z_brb8IY-00211-00038656-00038802 what we then realized was that as the +A27Z_brb8IY-00212-00038803-00038982 robots spent more and more time on the +A27Z_brb8IY-00213-00038983-00039159 farm and also with the farmer the +A27Z_brb8IY-00214-00039160-00039354 animals got used to the ball okay and so +A27Z_brb8IY-00215-00039355-00039507 then all we had to do was kind of put +A27Z_brb8IY-00216-00039508-00039624 the sort of trailer on the back with a +A27Z_brb8IY-00217-00039625-00039810 bit of hay and just move wherever we +A27Z_brb8IY-00218-00039811-00039948 wanted to go and the animals would just +A27Z_brb8IY-00219-00039949-00040101 follow behind it so it's a bit of a Pied +A27Z_brb8IY-00220-00040102-00040191 Piper approach +A27Z_brb8IY-00221-00040192-00040329 but what though what the growers were +A27Z_brb8IY-00222-00040330-00040464 interested in is if the bot can measure +A27Z_brb8IY-00223-00040465-00040659 things like pasture quality and pasture +A27Z_brb8IY-00224-00040660-00040851 biomass quality's still a very hard +A27Z_brb8IY-00225-00040852-00040977 element we can't do that one yet but +A27Z_brb8IY-00226-00040978-00041202 pasture YMS then you move the animals to +A27Z_brb8IY-00227-00041203-00041358 whatever location you want and then you +A27Z_brb8IY-00228-00041359-00041607 can you know have them grazing but at +A27Z_brb8IY-00229-00041608-00041763 the same time what you can do is that +A27Z_brb8IY-00230-00041764-00041988 this is in a dairy but the same time +A27Z_brb8IY-00231-00041989-00042135 what you can do is your the laser units +A27Z_brb8IY-00232-00042136-00042297 at on the bot so as you're moving around +A27Z_brb8IY-00233-00042298-00042504 the animals you're also detecting the +A27Z_brb8IY-00234-00042505-00042654 animals themselves and you can actually +A27Z_brb8IY-00235-00042655-00042831 apply machine learning techniques on the +A27Z_brb8IY-00236-00042832-00043062 data and start to see the walking gait +A27Z_brb8IY-00237-00043063-00043221 function of the individual animal and so +A27Z_brb8IY-00238-00043222-00043353 what that happens what that means is +A27Z_brb8IY-00239-00043354-00043548 that if they're walking function their +A27Z_brb8IY-00240-00043549-00043755 gait actually changes week on week then +A27Z_brb8IY-00241-00043756-00043920 that's an alert for the grower so you're +A27Z_brb8IY-00242-00043921-00044088 moving the bots around so you're moving +A27Z_brb8IY-00243-00044089-00044232 the ball around you're measuring pasture +A27Z_brb8IY-00244-00044233-00044409 getting the animals to move with you and +A27Z_brb8IY-00245-00044410-00044562 you're also detecting their behavior at +A27Z_brb8IY-00246-00044563-00044937 at the same time and and and the other +A27Z_brb8IY-00247-00044938-00045057 third area that the farmers were +A27Z_brb8IY-00248-00045058-00045216 interested was weight detection this is +A27Z_brb8IY-00249-00045217-00045381 the bot running around in real time +A27Z_brb8IY-00250-00045382-00045627 detecting serrated tussock as it's going +A27Z_brb8IY-00251-00045628-00045780 through it's navigating and looking at +A27Z_brb8IY-00252-00045781-00045891 obstacles moving around obstacles +A27Z_brb8IY-00253-00045892-00046086 detecting where the weeds are and it +A27Z_brb8IY-00254-00046087-00046242 comes along in a positions itself on the +A27Z_brb8IY-00255-00046243-00046410 top of each weed and it drops down this +A27Z_brb8IY-00256-00046411-00046599 little weed spray and it just sprays and +A27Z_brb8IY-00257-00046600-00046737 in our case we just sprayed some dye +A27Z_brb8IY-00258-00046738-00046950 just to mark out what was going on but +A27Z_brb8IY-00259-00046951-00047109 it would just come along and just spray +A27Z_brb8IY-00260-00047110-00047232 on the weed and this is where you can +A27Z_brb8IY-00261-00047233-00047349 start to see the cape you know the +A27Z_brb8IY-00262-00047350-00047466 reason why we went to four would drive +A27Z_brb8IY-00263-00047467-00047637 the four-wheel steer just to get to 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six hour battery +A27Z_brb8IY-00304-00055869-00056042 life so we operate for a lot longer we +A27Z_brb8IY-00305-00056043-00056198 can go for a lot further and the +A27Z_brb8IY-00306-00056199-00056426 resolution can is much higher because it +A27Z_brb8IY-00307-00056427-00056611 actually goes down closer to the crop +A27Z_brb8IY-00308-00056612-00056885 and so you can use that using low-cost +A27Z_brb8IY-00309-00056886-00057122 sensors as well we've done a number of +A27Z_brb8IY-00310-00057123-00057332 different trials with growers all around +A27Z_brb8IY-00311-00057333-00057455 the country different local Land +A27Z_brb8IY-00312-00057456-00057650 Services demonstrating the capability of +A27Z_brb8IY-00313-00057651-00057875 it if you if you look out the front here +A27Z_brb8IY-00314-00057876-00058013 if you can just see there's this little +A27Z_brb8IY-00315-00058014-00058211 thing that's sticking out there and on +A27Z_brb8IY-00316-00058212-00058400 the top there that's a selfie stick it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00317-00058401-00058529 gimble oh so it's just an off-the-shelf +A27Z_brb8IY-00318-00058530-00058769 selfie stick we put a smartphone on it +A27Z_brb8IY-00319-00058770-00058931 and then we use the smartphone because +A27Z_brb8IY-00320-00058932-00059103 it's got the best computational +A27Z_brb8IY-00321-00059104-00059253 capability and camera sensor that you +A27Z_brb8IY-00322-00059254-00059490 could buy for a few hundred bucks so all +A27Z_brb8IY-00323-00059491-00059612 you're doing is you're tapping into it +A27Z_brb8IY-00324-00059613-00059723 now and you're extracting out the +A27Z_brb8IY-00325-00059724-00059825 information and you're running the +A27Z_brb8IY-00326-00059826-00060003 algorithms in real time and you kind of +A27Z_brb8IY-00327-00060004-00060131 see this kind of thing process happening +A27Z_brb8IY-00328-00060132-00060266 so that's our selfie stick with a +A27Z_brb8IY-00329-00060267-00060435 smartphone on it and it's gimbal eye so 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+A27Z_brb8IY-00343-00063000-00063122 the middle row is how do you support +A27Z_brb8IY-00344-00063123-00063305 them lastly you want to collecting all +A27Z_brb8IY-00345-00063306-00063512 this data shipping a gigabyte of data +A27Z_brb8IY-00346-00063513-00063674 across the sending us analyzing and +A27Z_brb8IY-00347-00063675-00063822 Freddie Mac so a lot of our drivers also +A27Z_brb8IY-00348-00063823-00063968 being about how do we build a community +A27Z_brb8IY-00349-00063969-00064232 around there we've had a program now and +A27Z_brb8IY-00350-00064233-00064397 we just got funded again by the New +A27Z_brb8IY-00351-00064398-00064628 South Wales government we're actually +A27Z_brb8IY-00352-00064629-00064844 rolling out the robots across 20 rural +A27Z_brb8IY-00353-00064845-00065099 schools in New South Wales it's quite an +A27Z_brb8IY-00354-00065100-00065261 important because we actually leave the +A27Z_brb8IY-00355-00065262-00065496 robot with the school for ten weeks for +A27Z_brb8IY-00356-00065497-00065760 a whole term and we give them material +A27Z_brb8IY-00357-00065761-00065972 that's connected to the curriculum the +A27Z_brb8IY-00358-00065973-00066153 Australian Curriculum and the kids learn +A27Z_brb8IY-00359-00066154-00066303 about technology and AG but in the +A27Z_brb8IY-00360-00066304-00066443 context of the robot and they get to +A27Z_brb8IY-00361-00066444-00066569 program the robot they learn everything +A27Z_brb8IY-00362-00066570-00066743 from GPS right at the beginning all the +A27Z_brb8IY-00363-00066744-00066854 way through the machine learning right +A27Z_brb8IY-00364-00066855-00066949 at the end and how get +A27Z_brb8IY-00365-00066950-00067129 you sling on the phone the whole idea is +A27Z_brb8IY-00366-00067130-00067291 to kind of encourage the kids egg is +A27Z_brb8IY-00367-00067292-00067522 great egg takes coming stay on farm etc +A27Z_brb8IY-00368-00067523-00067666 but also to kind of build up that +A27Z_brb8IY-00369-00067667-00067906 community around the farmer around that +A27Z_brb8IY-00370-00067907-00068158 digital technology process and it's an +A27Z_brb8IY-00371-00068159-00068266 interesting area cuz when you talk about +A27Z_brb8IY-00372-00068267-00068449 robotics in the future of robotics on +A27Z_brb8IY-00373-00068450-00068608 farm one of the things that kind of +A27Z_brb8IY-00374-00068609-00068842 battles us at the moment now is are we +A27Z_brb8IY-00375-00068843-00069094 building the robot for the 40 50 60 year +A27Z_brb8IY-00376-00069095-00069250 old farmer or building the robot for the +A27Z_brb8IY-00377-00069251-00069367 20 year-old farm because they're +A27Z_brb8IY-00378-00069368-00069565 completely different user interfaces for +A27Z_brb8IY-00379-00069566-00069799 the 20 year old farmer the ones coming +A27Z_brb8IY-00380-00069800-00069922 across in five years I'm just gonna +A27Z_brb8IY-00381-00069923-00070096 throw a joystick at them and I'll walk +A27Z_brb8IY-00382-00070097-00070261 away and they'll do everything from +A27Z_brb8IY-00383-00070262-00070432 there and when you when you're looking +A27Z_brb8IY-00384-00070433-00070567 at the older growers you actually safe +A27Z_brb8IY-00385-00070568-00070675 to sit down you think about the user +A27Z_brb8IY-00386-00070676-00070837 interfaces the methods the process of +A27Z_brb8IY-00387-00070838-00071029 whatever in that you know makes things a +A27Z_brb8IY-00388-00071030-00071209 lot more complex and that's the kind of +A27Z_brb8IY-00389-00071210-00071371 scenario that working out with robotics +A27Z_brb8IY-00390-00071372-00071521 is kind of dealing with the current +A27Z_brb8IY-00391-00071522-00071665 situation now but also how what do we +A27Z_brb8IY-00392-00071666-00071904 need to do about the next generation +A27Z_brb8IY-00393-00071905-00072154 now we also got some funding from the +A27Z_brb8IY-00394-00072155-00072271 government to actually take this spot +A27Z_brb8IY-00395-00072272-00072717 across to Indonesia Samoa and Fiji and +A27Z_brb8IY-00396-00072718-00072973 I'll just stop it there for a second and +A27Z_brb8IY-00397-00072974-00073180 you might think well why would you take +A27Z_brb8IY-00398-00073181-00073471 it to the Pacific Islands right exactly +A27Z_brb8IY-00399-00073472-00073606 the same problems of the growers that we +A27Z_brb8IY-00400-00073607-00073717 have here +A27Z_brb8IY-00401-00073718-00073918 dad's going off into the city because I +A27Z_brb8IY-00402-00073919-00074122 need you all in comes left with mum at +A27Z_brb8IY-00403-00074123-00074335 home working on the farm kids don't want +A27Z_brb8IY-00404-00074336-00074455 to work on the farm they've gone off the +A27Z_brb8IY-00405-00074456-00074602 city try to get a tertiary education +A27Z_brb8IY-00406-00074603-00074776 moved on from there and so you're +A27Z_brb8IY-00407-00074777-00074938 getting lots of cooperatives mainly +A27Z_brb8IY-00408-00074939-00075121 women driven cooperatives that are +A27Z_brb8IY-00409-00075122-00075307 coming together to try and deal with +A27Z_brb8IY-00410-00075308-00075493 issues on farm they can't deal with the +A27Z_brb8IY-00411-00075494-00075640 guano me services that easily no one +A27Z_brb8IY-00412-00075641-00075793 goes out onto their farms and helps them +A27Z_brb8IY-00413-00075794-00076078 any of them usually generally the +A27Z_brb8IY-00414-00076079-00076303 chemicals that they use a cheap yeah +A27Z_brb8IY-00415-00076304-00076407 they have to get them cheap because of +A27Z_brb8IY-00416-00076408-00076537 the economic so they have it come from +A27Z_brb8IY-00417-00076538-00076707 China it's all in Chinese they can't +A27Z_brb8IY-00418-00076708-00076885 read it and they can't deal with the +A27Z_brb8IY-00419-00076886-00077086 pests and diseases that have got they +A27Z_brb8IY-00420-00077087-00077221 don't understand it so being able to +A27Z_brb8IY-00421-00077222-00077548 come in with a solution that can provide +A27Z_brb8IY-00422-00077549-00077725 that crop intelligence as well as that +A27Z_brb8IY-00423-00077726-00077914 labor-saving elements for these farmers +A27Z_brb8IY-00424-00077915-00078157 is actually a big thing and so we did +A27Z_brb8IY-00425-00078158-00078289 some trials out and across those three +A27Z_brb8IY-00426-00078290-00078577 islands this is you don't need all these +A27Z_brb8IY-00427-00078578-00078769 people they do yeah though just in an +A27Z_brb8IY-00428-00078770-00078949 interesting story when we went to Samoa +A27Z_brb8IY-00429-00078950-00079144 this was this is about 300 kilogram +A27Z_brb8IY-00430-00079145-00079369 bought it was in a crate we got there +A27Z_brb8IY-00431-00079370-00079489 and I was still in the crate in the +A27Z_brb8IY-00432-00079490-00079660 corner we thought how'd they get it off +A27Z_brb8IY-00433-00079661-00079966 the back of the Ute on today and we did +A27Z_brb8IY-00434-00079967-00080101 it it moved and we're like we could 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providing crop yield +A27Z_brb8IY-00449-00082247-00082527 information and and sensory information +A27Z_brb8IY-00450-00082528-00082716 as well as being able to do certain +A27Z_brb8IY-00451-00082717-00083296 tasks on farm and we modified the same +A27Z_brb8IY-00452-00083297-00083451 bot to look at tree crops so in this +A27Z_brb8IY-00453-00083452-00083631 particular example this is the digital +A27Z_brb8IY-00454-00083632-00083853 farmhand it's meant to be the low-cost +A27Z_brb8IY-00455-00083854-00084009 version just trying to it's almost like +A27Z_brb8IY-00456-00084010-00084196 a two wheeled electric tractor but with +A27Z_brb8IY-00457-00084197-00084360 dolly wheels on it allows us to put all +A27Z_brb8IY-00458-00084361-00084540 the sensors on board and and off we go +A27Z_brb8IY-00459-00084541-00084674 from there +A27Z_brb8IY-00460-00084675-00084882 capability this particular bot was about +A27Z_brb8IY-00461-00084883-00085163 four to five hours of battery life +A27Z_brb8IY-00462-00085164-00085461 aboard it's doing here it don't look at +A27Z_brb8IY-00463-00085462-00085602 the spraying it's just us having a bit +A27Z_brb8IY-00464-00085603-00085746 of fun but they're independent actuated +A27Z_brb8IY-00465-00085747-00085915 nozzles and while it's doing is +A27Z_brb8IY-00466-00085916-00086172 detecting the yield of fruit on the tree +A27Z_brb8IY-00467-00086173-00086352 and based on the yield estimating which +A27Z_brb8IY-00468-00086353-00086484 of those nozzles should move where in +A27Z_brb8IY-00469-00086485-00086667 order to be able to target and spray at +A27Z_brb8IY-00470-00086668-00086799 that particular point so it's it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00471-00086800-00087046 really putting robotics and intelligence +A27Z_brb8IY-00472-00087047-00087219 together but doing it in real time okay +A27Z_brb8IY-00473-00087220-00087390 and that's really what the what the +A27Z_brb8IY-00474-00087391-00087834 focus is so in April last year a lot of +A27Z_brb8IY-00475-00087835-00088050 that technology got spun out we we got +A27Z_brb8IY-00476-00088051-00088239 three investors that come through but +A27Z_brb8IY-00477-00088240-00088386 gave us one of the largest AG tech seed +A27Z_brb8IY-00478-00088387-00088599 funds about eight million dollars to +A27Z_brb8IY-00479-00088600-00088771 kind of really put about 12 engineers +A27Z_brb8IY-00480-00088772-00088989 together and start to take out the +A27Z_brb8IY-00481-00088990-00089151 technology and start to commercialize +A27Z_brb8IY-00482-00089152-00089331 and work directly with the growers in +A27Z_brb8IY-00483-00089332-00089523 that way the first thing that we've got +A27Z_brb8IY-00484-00089524-00089706 out is the digital farm hand it's it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00485-00089707-00090015 that lower cost entry point it's it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00486-00090016-00090498 looks it's a small but it's about the +A27Z_brb8IY-00487-00090499-00090681 width can go about 1.8 meters to fideos 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+A27Z_brb8IY-00501-00092917-00093162 capable it can move it about 6 +A27Z_brb8IY-00502-00093163-00093372 kilometres per hour at top speed we can +A27Z_brb8IY-00503-00093373-00093531 adjust the speed reduced to talk speed +A27Z_brb8IY-00504-00093532-00093643 relationship +A27Z_brb8IY-00505-00093644-00093817 has a 7 to 10 hour battery life and +A27Z_brb8IY-00506-00093818-00094036 we've total and cruizer with it so it's +A27Z_brb8IY-00507-00094037-00094210 quite a capable but it's even for its +A27Z_brb8IY-00508-00094211-00094318 small size and that gives you a +A27Z_brb8IY-00509-00094319-00094468 perspective of the kind of energy that +A27Z_brb8IY-00510-00094469-00094720 we've got now this is just a video kind +A27Z_brb8IY-00511-00094721-00094924 of showing the the latest results that +A27Z_brb8IY-00512-00094925-00095122 came out of the bots this is on one of +A27Z_brb8IY-00513-00095123-00095662 the farms out in greater Sydney ignore +A27Z_brb8IY-00514-00095663-00095848 the noise so this is just are suggesting +A27Z_brb8IY-00515-00095849-00095950 it and we can adjust for different +A27Z_brb8IY-00516-00095951-00096208 widths it's doing broccoli estimation +A27Z_brb8IY-00517-00096209-00096322 one of the things is trying to measure +A27Z_brb8IY-00518-00096323-00096487 different size Beaufort selective +A27Z_brb8IY-00519-00096488-00096649 harvesting and that's one of the kind of +A27Z_brb8IY-00520-00096650-00096820 areas that we're looking here it's doing +A27Z_brb8IY-00521-00096821-00097039 real-time weed detection among in a +A27Z_brb8IY-00522-00097040-00097297 carrot farm on the left and it also does +A27Z_brb8IY-00523-00097298-00097459 row following so it's not just GPS +A27Z_brb8IY-00524-00097460-00097603 guided it's following Rose is doing +A27Z_brb8IY-00525-00097604-00097813 obstacle detection noticing when there +A27Z_brb8IY-00526-00097814-00098008 is an end of a row being able to do a +A27Z_brb8IY-00527-00098009-00098239 turn autonomously and coming across back +A27Z_brb8IY-00528-00098240-00098767 into the into the row again so we're +A27Z_brb8IY-00529-00098768-00099007 trialing this spot we've got a number of +A27Z_brb8IY-00530-00099008-00099235 early adopter growers both in Victorian +A27Z_brb8IY-00531-00099236-00099358 New South Wales and we're going to be +A27Z_brb8IY-00532-00099359-00099526 positioning ourselves with those growers +A27Z_brb8IY-00533-00099527-00099679 and and it's going to be on farm and +A27Z_brb8IY-00534-00099680-00099808 we're really working towards that +A27Z_brb8IY-00535-00099809-00100021 commercial strategy of not it's not just +A27Z_brb8IY-00536-00100022-00100189 weeding and spraying but looking at the +A27Z_brb8IY-00537-00100190-00100366 digital agronomy element as well so how +A27Z_brb8IY-00538-00100367-00100519 do we do you know the individual plant +A27Z_brb8IY-00539-00100520-00100675 detection what does that mean for the +A27Z_brb8IY-00540-00100676-00100843 farmer and what does that mean back in +A27Z_brb8IY-00541-00100844-00101188 terms of the operation so the last thing +A27Z_brb8IY-00542-00101189-00101374 I wanted to touch on was just how we +A27Z_brb8IY-00543-00101375-00101599 move from robotics to operations and +A27Z_brb8IY-00544-00101600-00101770 there and again you there's a lot of +A27Z_brb8IY-00545-00101771-00102010 hype around the robotics now which is +A27Z_brb8IY-00546-00102011-00102211 good right they come in the text coming +A27Z_brb8IY-00547-00102212-00102340 it's it's going to get better and better +A27Z_brb8IY-00548-00102341-00102432 it's going to get cheaper and cheaper +A27Z_brb8IY-00549-00102433-00102585 and that's one of the things as far as +A27Z_brb8IY-00550-00102586-00102826 you've just got a it just accept the +A27Z_brb8IY-00551-00102827-00102967 fact that it's coming along so the +A27Z_brb8IY-00552-00102968-00103086 question from an operational perspective +A27Z_brb8IY-00553-00103088-00103291 is is how you use it within the context +A27Z_brb8IY-00554-00103292-00103498 of operations I want to bring out three +A27Z_brb8IY-00555-00103499-00103696 examples of projects that I've worked on +A27Z_brb8IY-00556-00103697-00103893 but also their Australian examples that +A27Z_brb8IY-00557-00103894-00104074 we can learn from if you go to port +A27Z_brb8IY-00558-00104075-00104355 Brisbane Port Melbourne port Sydney +A27Z_brb8IY-00559-00104356-00104449 you'll see that there are autonomous +A27Z_brb8IY-00560-00104450-00104575 straddle carriers moving around +A27Z_brb8IY-00561-00104576-00104821 autonomously 24/7 we developed all that +A27Z_brb8IY-00562-00104822-00105058 tech from you know about mining and +A27Z_brb8IY-00563-00105058-00105256 what's going on in Perth the whole mine +A27Z_brb8IY-00564-00105257-00105382 operations that are going out in the +A27Z_brb8IY-00565-00105383-00105568 Pilbara again we developed a tech for +A27Z_brb8IY-00566-00105569-00105826 Rio Tinto in that space and recently you +A27Z_brb8IY-00567-00105827-00105958 would have heard about the London to +A27Z_brb8IY-00568-00105958-00106144 Sydney and New York to Sydney direct +A27Z_brb8IY-00569-00106145-00106273 where arts and we developed a lot of +A27Z_brb8IY-00570-00106274-00106414 flight planning our goals for Qantas in +A27Z_brb8IY-00571-00106415-00106615 that space but what you see in that +A27Z_brb8IY-00572-00106616-00106840 trend is this focus on what does the +A27Z_brb8IY-00573-00106841-00107010 future state look like in hits what is +A27Z_brb8IY-00574-00107011-00107029 the +A27Z_brb8IY-00575-00107030-00107173 technology that and we need to get to +A27Z_brb8IY-00576-00107174-00107401 that point so as an example if I was a +A27Z_brb8IY-00577-00107402-00107569 horticultural grower and I knew this +A27Z_brb8IY-00578-00107570-00107779 technology was coming what does an +A27Z_brb8IY-00579-00107780-00108028 autonomous farm look like in five years +A27Z_brb8IY-00580-00108029-00108202 time what state will that look like and +A27Z_brb8IY-00581-00108203-00108370 maybe not and not everything will be +A27Z_brb8IY-00582-00108371-00108538 automated but what are the things that +A27Z_brb8IY-00583-00108539-00108660 it will be automated what does that mean +A27Z_brb8IY-00584-00108661-00108861 in the context of my operations that +A27Z_brb8IY-00585-00108863-00109054 becomes another question and all of +A27Z_brb8IY-00586-00109055-00109207 these guys have got examples of things +A27Z_brb8IY-00587-00109208-00109363 that the agriculture industry can learn +A27Z_brb8IY-00588-00109364-00109509 from and they're already they're already +A27Z_brb8IY-00589-00109510-00109661 set in place from standards +A27Z_brb8IY-00590-00109663-00109951 WHS how you run autonomous operations +A27Z_brb8IY-00591-00109952-00110194 and so forth and I'm just going to bore +A27Z_brb8IY-00592-00110195-00110383 you with it shouldn't be the last slide +A27Z_brb8IY-00593-00110383-00110557 but I will try and yeah I just want you +A27Z_brb8IY-00594-00110558-00110770 to kind of see it in this context this +A27Z_brb8IY-00595-00110771-00110983 is a this is an activity of a mine +A27Z_brb8IY-00596-00110983-00111238 operation and this is the number of +A27Z_brb8IY-00597-00111239-00111400 years across here and this is how much +A27Z_brb8IY-00598-00111401-00111619 uncertainty there is and in the light +A27Z_brb8IY-00599-00111620-00111904 blue what you have there is what the +A27Z_brb8IY-00600-00111905-00112059 current operations are so the higher the +A27Z_brb8IY-00601-00112060-00112330 value the more uncertain everything is +A27Z_brb8IY-00602-00112331-00112573 and what you see in the dark blue is the +A27Z_brb8IY-00603-00112574-00112768 current operations so in other words +A27Z_brb8IY-00604-00112769-00112906 they've got more information about +A27Z_brb8IY-00605-00112907-00113044 what's going on on their farm and +A27Z_brb8IY-00606-00113045-00113203 because I have more information they +A27Z_brb8IY-00607-00113204-00113407 have better decision-making but what's +A27Z_brb8IY-00608-00113408-00113590 more important is in the process of +A27Z_brb8IY-00609-00113591-00113740 automating some of these things there +A27Z_brb8IY-00610-00113741-00113985 are many on mine tasks that have been +A27Z_brb8IY-00611-00113986-00114232 completely removed from the operation so +A27Z_brb8IY-00612-00114233-00114373 in that context when you're looking at +A27Z_brb8IY-00613-00114374-00114595 the situation about your farm you're not +A27Z_brb8IY-00614-00114596-00114715 just you're not just looking at it +A27Z_brb8IY-00615-00114716-00114874 saying oh these are the tasks that I can +A27Z_brb8IY-00616-00114875-00115048 automate but if you look at it from a +A27Z_brb8IY-00617-00115049-00115185 longer term horizon there are certain +A27Z_brb8IY-00618-00115186-00115306 tasks that if you automate it there are +A27Z_brb8IY-00619-00115307-00115426 other tasks that you don't need to do +A27Z_brb8IY-00620-00115427-00115675 anymore okay and it's that thinking that +A27Z_brb8IY-00621-00115676-00115836 looking ahead over the next five 10 +A27Z_brb8IY-00622-00115838-00115999 years it's going to help not only +A27Z_brb8IY-00623-00116000-00116128 yourself in terms understanding how to +A27Z_brb8IY-00624-00116129-00116254 bring in the technology it's also going +A27Z_brb8IY-00625-00116255-00116380 to help all the AG tech providers +A27Z_brb8IY-00626-00116381-00116551 understand what the key points are that +A27Z_brb8IY-00627-00116552-00116883 need to be brought across so that's the +A27Z_brb8IY-00628-00116884-00117503 presentation thank you +A27Z_brb8IY-00629-00117504-00117710 you +A4PXYxnQD7I-00000-00000016-00000271 hello in this video i'm gonna do +A4PXYxnQD7I-00001-00000272-00000463 something which i'm sure has never been +A4PXYxnQD7I-00002-00000463-00000534 done before +A4PXYxnQD7I-00003-00000535-00000734 today we're gonna try to combine these +A4PXYxnQD7I-00004-00000735-00000862 two things here +A4PXYxnQD7I-00005-00000863-00001047 and get some music out of it this is a +A4PXYxnQD7I-00006-00001048-00001327 device from russia made by playtronica +A4PXYxnQD7I-00007-00001328-00001550 and the purpose of this is that it can +A4PXYxnQD7I-00008-00001551-00001655 transfer +A4PXYxnQD7I-00009-00001655-00001879 every electronical impulse coming in +A4PXYxnQD7I-00010-00001880-00002039 into a midi signal +A4PXYxnQD7I-00011-00002039-00002255 then i can send it into my computer +A4PXYxnQD7I-00012-00002256-00002463 connect it to a synthesizer or whatever +A4PXYxnQD7I-00013-00002464-00002663 and yeah pretty cool actually on itself +A4PXYxnQD7I-00014-00002664-00002815 this on the other hand +A4PXYxnQD7I-00015-00002816-00003031 this is a medical device and what it +A4PXYxnQD7I-00016-00003032-00003215 does it's sending impulses +A4PXYxnQD7I-00017-00003215-00003335 electronically +A4PXYxnQD7I-00018-00003336-00003567 into your muscles penetrating and +A4PXYxnQD7I-00019-00003568-00003654 shaking them +A4PXYxnQD7I-00020-00003655-00003822 until they cannot take it anymore and +A4PXYxnQD7I-00021-00003823-00003959 finally relax +A4PXYxnQD7I-00022-00003960-00004167 so i was wondering what's gonna happen +A4PXYxnQD7I-00023-00004168-00004359 if we connect these two devices +A4PXYxnQD7I-00024-00004360-00004767 let's find out okay so first let me +A4PXYxnQD7I-00025-00004768-00004943 demonstrate the concept of this thing +A4PXYxnQD7I-00026-00004944-00004975 here +A4PXYxnQD7I-00027-00004976-00005215 there's two pads and the other one is +A4PXYxnQD7I-00028-00005216-00005415 attached to my other finger using this +A4PXYxnQD7I-00029-00005416-00005551 cable here +A4PXYxnQD7I-00030-00005552-00006095 so you can do things like this +A4PXYxnQD7I-00031-00006096-00006343 and it works with pretty much everything +A4PXYxnQD7I-00032-00006344-00006542 for example instead of my hand +A4PXYxnQD7I-00033-00006543-00007070 [Music] +A4PXYxnQD7I-00034-00007072-00007484 it even works in water put that in there +A4PXYxnQD7I-00035-00007486-00007959 [Music] +A4PXYxnQD7I-00036-00007959-00008271 okay so now let's have some fun yeah +A4PXYxnQD7I-00037-00008272-00008614 get those muscles dancing kinda hurts on +A4PXYxnQD7I-00038-00008615-00008767 the highest level but you can +A4PXYxnQD7I-00039-00008768-00009006 actually harm yourself as long as you +A4PXYxnQD7I-00040-00009007-00009159 use it the right way +A4PXYxnQD7I-00041-00009160-00009310 so you should really avoid putting one +A4PXYxnQD7I-00042-00009311-00009542 of these on your private parts +A4PXYxnQD7I-00043-00009543-00009783 it even says so in the manual let's go +A4PXYxnQD7I-00044-00009784-00009999 with one of these pads for a start i'm +A4PXYxnQD7I-00045-00010000-00010167 pretty sure it's gonna work if i set it +A4PXYxnQD7I-00046-00010168-00010271 up like this +A4PXYxnQD7I-00047-00010272-00010759 hmm which program should we use +A4PXYxnQD7I-00048-00010760-00010942 oh yeah this is where pretty much +A4PXYxnQD7I-00049-00010943-00011087 everything hurts +A4PXYxnQD7I-00050-00011088-00011271 okay i'm gonna use this one now let's +A4PXYxnQD7I-00051-00011272-00011591 get some power +A4PXYxnQD7I-00052-00011592-00011765 it made a sound +A4PXYxnQD7I-00053-00011766-00012527 [Music] +A4PXYxnQD7I-00054-00012528-00012789 okay more power +A4PXYxnQD7I-00055-00012790-00013199 [Music] +A4PXYxnQD7I-00056-00013200-00014503 it works oh my gosh +A4PXYxnQD7I-00057-00014504-00014822 okay +A4PXYxnQD7I-00058-00014823-00015056 oh this is very interesting +A4PXYxnQD7I-00059-00015057-00015335 [Music] +A4PXYxnQD7I-00060-00015336-00015710 more power +A4PXYxnQD7I-00061-00015711-00015802 [Music] +A4PXYxnQD7I-00062-00015803-00015966 [Applause] +A4PXYxnQD7I-00063-00015968-00017199 ah it's about to explode +A4PXYxnQD7I-00064-00017200-00017407 okay that's the highest level sounds +A4PXYxnQD7I-00065-00017408-00017639 beautiful +A4PXYxnQD7I-00066-00017640-00017822 okay turn it off now i want to see what +A4PXYxnQD7I-00067-00017823-00018030 happens if you connect both channels +A4PXYxnQD7I-00068-00018031-00018343 to this thing oh god i hope i'm not +A4PXYxnQD7I-00069-00018344-00018447 breaking it +A4PXYxnQD7I-00070-00018448-00019367 okay here we go +A4PXYxnQD7I-00071-00019368-00019799 it pretty much stays at one note +A4PXYxnQD7I-00072-00019800-00020030 i think with this setup it's just more +A4PXYxnQD7I-00073-00020031-00020263 than the playtronica can take +A4PXYxnQD7I-00074-00020264-00020622 so let's go low +A4PXYxnQD7I-00075-00020623-00020878 it's just way too much input but it +A4PXYxnQD7I-00076-00020879-00020967 works +A4PXYxnQD7I-00077-00020968-00021630 very very satisfying +A4PXYxnQD7I-00078-00021631-00021967 okay stop that's enough for today so did +A4PXYxnQD7I-00079-00021968-00022022 it work +A4PXYxnQD7I-00080-00022023-00022367 yes is it useful absolutely not +A4PXYxnQD7I-00081-00022368-00022558 was it a lot of fun nonetheless hell +A4PXYxnQD7I-00082-00022559-00022799 yeah so that was that +A4PXYxnQD7I-00083-00022800-00022943 that's it for today thank you all for +A4PXYxnQD7I-00084-00022944-00024230 watching see you next time +A4PXYxnQD7I-00085-00024231-00024440 you +A6Os44whp6Q-00000-00000183-00000318 well good afternoon everybody +A6Os44whp6Q-00001-00000319-00000487 my name is ken baldwin i'm director of +A6Os44whp6Q-00002-00000488-00000630 the energy change institute at the +A6Os44whp6Q-00003-00000631-00000767 australian national university and +A6Os44whp6Q-00004-00000768-00000862 welcome to +A6Os44whp6Q-00005-00000863-00001166 our webinar this afternoon which will be +A6Os44whp6Q-00006-00001167-00001383 the public forum on how do we certify +A6Os44whp6Q-00007-00001384-00001503 the amount of carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-00008-00001504-00001839 embedded in hydrogen fuels we have a uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00009-00001839-00002159 a panel of experts ready to present +A6Os44whp6Q-00010-00002160-00002431 uh in a few minutes uh we might just +A6Os44whp6Q-00011-00002432-00002526 wait until +A6Os44whp6Q-00012-00002527-00002831 uh most people are now joining us +A6Os44whp6Q-00013-00002832-00003079 but let me start off by acknowledging +A6Os44whp6Q-00014-00003080-00003175 the traditional +A6Os44whp6Q-00015-00003176-00003367 owners of the land on which we meet and +A6Os44whp6Q-00016-00003368-00003654 in our case that's the nanawal people +A6Os44whp6Q-00017-00003655-00003983 here in canberra and uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00018-00003984-00004206 pay our respects to their elders past +A6Os44whp6Q-00019-00004207-00004486 present and future +A6Os44whp6Q-00020-00004487-00004663 so just uh to give you a bit of +A6Os44whp6Q-00021-00004664-00004911 background uh about today's webinar and +A6Os44whp6Q-00022-00004912-00004999 a few +A6Os44whp6Q-00023-00005000-00005391 housekeeping uh rules uh we have +A6Os44whp6Q-00024-00005392-00005622 as i said a panel of experts who will +A6Os44whp6Q-00025-00005623-00005863 present their perspective on +A6Os44whp6Q-00026-00005864-00006167 the various aspects of certifying carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-00027-00006168-00006383 in hydrogen fuels +A6Os44whp6Q-00028-00006384-00006734 they will have an opportunity to do that +A6Os44whp6Q-00029-00006736-00007078 over roughly 10 or 15 minutes each +A6Os44whp6Q-00030-00007079-00007406 and following that we will have a +A6Os44whp6Q-00031-00007408-00007567 discussion amongst the panel members +A6Os44whp6Q-00032-00007568-00007791 about a few questions that arise from +A6Os44whp6Q-00033-00007792-00007919 their presentation +A6Os44whp6Q-00034-00007920-00008199 and then we'll open up the entire +A6Os44whp6Q-00035-00008200-00008342 proceedings to +A6Os44whp6Q-00036-00008343-00008678 you the audience to ask your questions +A6Os44whp6Q-00037-00008679-00008983 of the panel members and we will then +A6Os44whp6Q-00038-00008984-00009406 finish that at around about 5 30 or so +A6Os44whp6Q-00039-00009407-00009774 so if you would like to ask a question +A6Os44whp6Q-00040-00009775-00010039 we have an opportunity to do that for +A6Os44whp6Q-00041-00010040-00010151 you +A6Os44whp6Q-00042-00010152-00010551 using the question and answer panel +A6Os44whp6Q-00043-00010552-00010774 you can see that down at the bottom of +A6Os44whp6Q-00044-00010775-00010935 your screen +A6Os44whp6Q-00045-00010936-00011167 so i'd encourage you to go on there and +A6Os44whp6Q-00046-00011168-00011391 to ask your questions as we're going +A6Os44whp6Q-00047-00011392-00011478 along +A6Os44whp6Q-00048-00011479-00011814 and then we will select a number of +A6Os44whp6Q-00049-00011815-00011951 questions +A6Os44whp6Q-00050-00011952-00012278 to answer for the panel in the last part +A6Os44whp6Q-00051-00012279-00012319 of the +A6Os44whp6Q-00052-00012320-00012759 of the webinar so welcome everybody +A6Os44whp6Q-00053-00012760-00012951 i can see that more people are joining +A6Os44whp6Q-00054-00012952-00013086 us so uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00055-00013087-00013511 i might um now just uh give a quick uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00056-00013512-00013758 introduction of our panel members and +A6Os44whp6Q-00057-00013759-00013855 i'll talk about each of them +A6Os44whp6Q-00058-00013856-00014086 individually of course as they come on +A6Os44whp6Q-00059-00014087-00014286 but we have a panel of experts this +A6Os44whp6Q-00060-00014287-00014479 afternoon to talk about our +A6Os44whp6Q-00061-00014480-00014694 uh topic which is how do we certify the +A6Os44whp6Q-00062-00014695-00014815 amount of carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-00063-00014816-00015150 embedded in hydrogen fuels uh we +A6Os44whp6Q-00064-00015151-00015303 would like to welcome this afternoon +A6Os44whp6Q-00065-00015304-00015463 rebecca thompson from the department of +A6Os44whp6Q-00066-00015463-00015679 industry science energy and resources +A6Os44whp6Q-00067-00015680-00015958 and in particular from the hydrogen task +A6Os44whp6Q-00068-00015959-00016103 force there which is +A6Os44whp6Q-00069-00016104-00016358 uh looking at uh certification amongst +A6Os44whp6Q-00070-00016359-00016486 many other things +A6Os44whp6Q-00071-00016487-00016847 uh on the way to australia +A6Os44whp6Q-00072-00016848-00017086 uh participating in the hydrogen economy +A6Os44whp6Q-00073-00017087-00017230 down the track +A6Os44whp6Q-00074-00017231-00017647 from the anu we have dr emma esper +A6Os44whp6Q-00075-00017648-00017935 and in particular emma is a member of +A6Os44whp6Q-00076-00017936-00018127 the anu grand challenge zero carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-00077-00018128-00018286 energy for the asia pacific +A6Os44whp6Q-00078-00018287-00018503 and is the associate director research +A6Os44whp6Q-00079-00018504-00018711 of that grand challenge +A6Os44whp6Q-00080-00018712-00018950 we also have penelope howarth from the +A6Os44whp6Q-00081-00018951-00019143 department of foreign affairs and trade +A6Os44whp6Q-00082-00019144-00019327 uh who is actually on secondment to the +A6Os44whp6Q-00083-00019328-00019583 grand challenge where emma and i +A6Os44whp6Q-00084-00019584-00019903 also work and penelope +A6Os44whp6Q-00085-00019904-00020079 will be talking to us about particular +A6Os44whp6Q-00086-00020080-00020207 aspects of +A6Os44whp6Q-00087-00020208-00020527 ammonia as a hydrogen fuel and then last +A6Os44whp6Q-00088-00020528-00020711 but certainly not least we have dr john +A6Os44whp6Q-00089-00020712-00020807 soderbaum +A6Os44whp6Q-00090-00020808-00021063 from acell allen consulting and john +A6Os44whp6Q-00091-00021064-00021183 will be bringing an +A6Os44whp6Q-00092-00021184-00021455 industry perspective uh to this entire +A6Os44whp6Q-00093-00021456-00021543 question +A6Os44whp6Q-00094-00021544-00021855 so that's our panel and uh we will uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00095-00021856-00021967 hear from them +A6Os44whp6Q-00096-00021968-00022319 uh in uh in that order uh so first of +A6Os44whp6Q-00097-00022320-00022375 all +A6Os44whp6Q-00098-00022376-00022743 uh i'd like to uh start by introducing +A6Os44whp6Q-00099-00022744-00023094 rebecca so rebecca thompson +A6Os44whp6Q-00100-00023095-00023430 uh has uh as i said a role +A6Os44whp6Q-00101-00023431-00023639 in the hydrogen strategy team at the +A6Os44whp6Q-00102-00023640-00023783 department of industry science energy +A6Os44whp6Q-00103-00023784-00023903 and resources +A6Os44whp6Q-00104-00023904-00024135 and she's the project lead on hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00105-00024136-00024263 certification +A6Os44whp6Q-00106-00024264-00024535 uh having worked in the team uh for a +A6Os44whp6Q-00107-00024536-00024686 little bit over a year now +A6Os44whp6Q-00108-00024687-00024950 uh and uh and having had previous roles +A6Os44whp6Q-00109-00024951-00025175 in climate change and energy policy +A6Os44whp6Q-00110-00025176-00025375 uh including early work on the long-term +A6Os44whp6Q-00111-00025376-00025486 climate strategy +A6Os44whp6Q-00112-00025487-00025734 the safeguard mechanism on the renewable +A6Os44whp6Q-00113-00025735-00025806 energy target +A6Os44whp6Q-00114-00025807-00026055 and in the new zealand emissions trading +A6Os44whp6Q-00115-00026056-00026134 scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-00116-00026135-00026502 uh so welcome rebecca and uh you uh now +A6Os44whp6Q-00117-00026504-00026639 have the opportunity +A6Os44whp6Q-00118-00026639-00026870 uh to tell us about the thinking around +A6Os44whp6Q-00119-00026872-00026967 hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00120-00026968-00027262 and other hydrogen fuel certification uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00121-00027263-00027462 from the perspective of the hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00122-00027463-00027702 strategy team in your department +A6Os44whp6Q-00123-00027704-00027951 okay thanks ken and thanks for the +A6Os44whp6Q-00124-00027952-00028214 opportunity to speak here today +A6Os44whp6Q-00125-00028216-00028374 as ken said i'll be speaking to you +A6Os44whp6Q-00126-00028375-00028511 about the work that the australian +A6Os44whp6Q-00127-00028512-00028607 government is doing +A6Os44whp6Q-00128-00028608-00028935 on hydrogen certification um +A6Os44whp6Q-00129-00028936-00030183 did did you have my sides ken or +A6Os44whp6Q-00130-00030183-00031246 this king i say yep +A6Os44whp6Q-00131-00031247-00031767 otherwise i could just talk that's okay +A6Os44whp6Q-00132-00031768-00032135 okay here we go um +A6Os44whp6Q-00133-00032136-00032431 okay so um yeah as i said um speaking to +A6Os44whp6Q-00134-00032432-00032551 you about the work the australian +A6Os44whp6Q-00135-00032552-00032695 government is doing on hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00136-00032695-00032871 certification +A6Os44whp6Q-00137-00032872-00033583 and if we can move to the next slide +A6Os44whp6Q-00138-00033584-00033759 okay so i thought i'd just begin with +A6Os44whp6Q-00139-00033760-00034007 explaining why we need a certification +A6Os44whp6Q-00140-00034008-00034055 scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-00141-00034056-00034343 what is it um i guess um we're all +A6Os44whp6Q-00142-00034344-00034502 interested in hydrogen because it has +A6Os44whp6Q-00143-00034503-00034679 potential as a low emissions fuel +A6Os44whp6Q-00144-00034680-00034862 and it can be used in place of fossil +A6Os44whp6Q-00145-00034863-00035062 fuels in a range of applications +A6Os44whp6Q-00146-00035063-00035335 to reduce emissions it produces no +A6Os44whp6Q-00147-00035336-00035487 carbon emissions when it's used but +A6Os44whp6Q-00148-00035488-00035662 there can be emissions associated with +A6Os44whp6Q-00149-00035663-00035799 its production +A6Os44whp6Q-00150-00035800-00035983 most hydrogen is produced today using +A6Os44whp6Q-00151-00035984-00036167 natural gas and water which results in +A6Os44whp6Q-00152-00036168-00036271 emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-00153-00036272-00036390 but if it's produced through +A6Os44whp6Q-00154-00036391-00036655 electrolysis using renewable electricity +A6Os44whp6Q-00155-00036656-00036871 then no emissions are released and if +A6Os44whp6Q-00156-00036872-00037023 it's produced from a fossil fuel and +A6Os44whp6Q-00157-00037024-00037183 these emissions are captured at a high +A6Os44whp6Q-00158-00037184-00037367 level and permanently stored +A6Os44whp6Q-00159-00037368-00037511 then we can substantially reduce the +A6Os44whp6Q-00160-00037512-00037662 emissions and the hydrogen can be +A6Os44whp6Q-00161-00037663-00037830 considered clean +A6Os44whp6Q-00162-00037831-00038015 so these clean methods for producing +A6Os44whp6Q-00163-00038016-00038199 hydrogen are currently more expensive +A6Os44whp6Q-00164-00038200-00038471 than the traditional methods +A6Os44whp6Q-00165-00038472-00038759 um so if consumers are interested in +A6Os44whp6Q-00166-00038760-00038927 hydrogen for its potential as a clean +A6Os44whp6Q-00167-00038928-00038967 fuel +A6Os44whp6Q-00168-00038968-00039111 and are prepared to pay more for the +A6Os44whp6Q-00169-00039112-00039279 clean fuel then they want some +A6Os44whp6Q-00170-00039280-00039511 level of assurance that it is clean and +A6Os44whp6Q-00171-00039512-00039711 so a certification scheme is a way of +A6Os44whp6Q-00172-00039712-00039887 providing a consistent and accurate +A6Os44whp6Q-00173-00039888-00039983 approach to +A6Os44whp6Q-00174-00039984-00040167 measuring the emissions associated with +A6Os44whp6Q-00175-00040168-00040311 hydrogen production +A6Os44whp6Q-00176-00040312-00040487 and giving consumers the assurance that +A6Os44whp6Q-00177-00040488-00040639 they need +A6Os44whp6Q-00178-00040640-00041015 on to the next slide please +A6Os44whp6Q-00179-00041016-00041246 okay the development of a certification +A6Os44whp6Q-00180-00041247-00041407 scheme is a key action as +A6Os44whp6Q-00181-00041408-00041574 agreed by australian government in the +A6Os44whp6Q-00182-00041575-00041767 national hydrogen strategy which was +A6Os44whp6Q-00183-00041768-00041927 released last year +A6Os44whp6Q-00184-00041928-00042118 and the strategy sets out a broad +A6Os44whp6Q-00185-00042119-00042343 approach to certification +A6Os44whp6Q-00186-00042344-00042574 it recognises that a globally consistent +A6Os44whp6Q-00187-00042575-00042702 scheme would be ideal +A6Os44whp6Q-00188-00042703-00042871 and suggest that australia should seek +A6Os44whp6Q-00189-00042872-00043087 to take a lead role in the development +A6Os44whp6Q-00190-00043088-00043287 of an international scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-00191-00043288-00043446 and any australian domestic scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-00192-00043447-00043607 should build on or harmonize with +A6Os44whp6Q-00193-00043608-00043839 international schemes +A6Os44whp6Q-00194-00043840-00044007 the strategy proposed that we could +A6Os44whp6Q-00195-00044008-00044190 initially develop a simple scheme that +A6Os44whp6Q-00196-00044191-00044327 verifies and tracks +A6Os44whp6Q-00197-00044328-00044567 production technology and in line with +A6Os44whp6Q-00198-00044568-00044718 the technology neutral approach in the +A6Os44whp6Q-00199-00044719-00044911 strategy all production technologies +A6Os44whp6Q-00200-00044912-00045062 would be considered +A6Os44whp6Q-00201-00045063-00045246 and it would also track carbon emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-00202-00045247-00045430 and production location +A6Os44whp6Q-00203-00045431-00045718 this could be built on over time this +A6Os44whp6Q-00204-00045719-00045879 approach to certification means that we +A6Os44whp6Q-00205-00045880-00046046 do not need to set definitions of green +A6Os44whp6Q-00206-00046047-00046207 or low emissions hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00207-00046208-00046351 rather countries could set their own +A6Os44whp6Q-00208-00046352-00046527 definition with reference to agreed +A6Os44whp6Q-00209-00046528-00046767 international standards +A6Os44whp6Q-00210-00046768-00047118 on to the next slide please +A6Os44whp6Q-00211-00047119-00047262 so the australian government has been +A6Os44whp6Q-00212-00047263-00047390 working both internationally and +A6Os44whp6Q-00213-00047391-00047551 domestically on the development of the +A6Os44whp6Q-00214-00047552-00047751 certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-00215-00047752-00047886 on the international side we've been +A6Os44whp6Q-00216-00047887-00048039 participating in the international +A6Os44whp6Q-00217-00048040-00048246 partnership for hydrogen and fuel cells +A6Os44whp6Q-00218-00048247-00048295 in the +A6Os44whp6Q-00219-00048296-00048511 productivity production analysis task +A6Os44whp6Q-00220-00048512-00048655 force that's a bit of a mouthful we'll +A6Os44whp6Q-00221-00048656-00048895 call it iph for short +A6Os44whp6Q-00222-00048896-00049039 and then this seems to be the main +A6Os44whp6Q-00223-00049040-00049190 international forum where hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00224-00049191-00049374 certification is being discussed or +A6Os44whp6Q-00225-00049375-00049743 among governments anyway um iphe has +A6Os44whp6Q-00226-00049744-00049974 around 21 members altogether and +A6Os44whp6Q-00227-00049975-00050255 on this task force um most of the main +A6Os44whp6Q-00228-00050256-00050374 players are represented +A6Os44whp6Q-00229-00050375-00050671 including france japan korea germany the +A6Os44whp6Q-00230-00050672-00050807 usa and the eu +A6Os44whp6Q-00231-00050808-00051167 among others this task force is aiming +A6Os44whp6Q-00232-00051168-00051375 to describe a methodology to assess the +A6Os44whp6Q-00233-00051376-00051550 emissions associated with hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00234-00051551-00051630 production +A6Os44whp6Q-00235-00051632-00051935 by the second quarter of 2021 but +A6Os44whp6Q-00236-00051936-00052111 obviously a full international standard +A6Os44whp6Q-00237-00052112-00052358 would take um some time to develop after +A6Os44whp6Q-00238-00052359-00052526 this +A6Os44whp6Q-00239-00052527-00052838 on to the next slide please +A6Os44whp6Q-00240-00052839-00053023 so on the domestic front we've been +A6Os44whp6Q-00241-00053024-00053207 consulting with the australian industry +A6Os44whp6Q-00242-00053208-00053366 to understand what industry would like +A6Os44whp6Q-00243-00053367-00053503 from a scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-00244-00053504-00053638 and this includes through a survey +A6Os44whp6Q-00245-00053639-00053854 released in june which was followed up +A6Os44whp6Q-00246-00053855-00054030 by a workshop that we held just last +A6Os44whp6Q-00247-00054032-00054159 week +A6Os44whp6Q-00248-00054160-00054287 and from the survey we heard that +A6Os44whp6Q-00249-00054288-00054487 stakeholders want a scheme that ideally +A6Os44whp6Q-00250-00054488-00054630 starts pretty soon +A6Os44whp6Q-00251-00054632-00054966 68 percent wanted to scheme by 2022 +A6Os44whp6Q-00252-00054967-00055126 and they also wanted a scheme that is +A6Os44whp6Q-00253-00055127-00055294 aligned or consistent with approaches +A6Os44whp6Q-00254-00055295-00055454 taken internationally +A6Os44whp6Q-00255-00055455-00055663 so around 75 percent of stakeholders +A6Os44whp6Q-00256-00055664-00055823 thought an international scheme is more +A6Os44whp6Q-00257-00055824-00055903 important +A6Os44whp6Q-00258-00055904-00056094 or that international and domestic +A6Os44whp6Q-00259-00056095-00056326 schemes are equally important +A6Os44whp6Q-00260-00056327-00056463 however there might be trade-offs +A6Os44whp6Q-00261-00056464-00056671 between these two objectives between +A6Os44whp6Q-00262-00056672-00056799 acting quickly and achieving +A6Os44whp6Q-00263-00056800-00057087 international alignment +A6Os44whp6Q-00264-00057088-00057254 other scheme other things coming from +A6Os44whp6Q-00265-00057255-00057454 the survey where that stakeholders want +A6Os44whp6Q-00266-00057455-00057607 to scheme that transparently and +A6Os44whp6Q-00267-00057608-00057766 accurately accounts for missions +A6Os44whp6Q-00268-00057767-00058038 associated with hydrogen production +A6Os44whp6Q-00269-00058039-00058191 they want a scheme that's simple and +A6Os44whp6Q-00270-00058191-00058375 aligns with existing frameworks +A6Os44whp6Q-00271-00058376-00058615 and they want a scheme that's credible +A6Os44whp6Q-00272-00058616-00058759 trusted and has provision +A6Os44whp6Q-00273-00058760-00059111 for independent verification um on to +A6Os44whp6Q-00274-00059112-00059382 the next slide please +A6Os44whp6Q-00275-00059383-00059566 all right now getting into some of the +A6Os44whp6Q-00276-00059567-00059742 design features of a scheme and the +A6Os44whp6Q-00277-00059744-00060023 first one is defining the boundary +A6Os44whp6Q-00278-00060024-00060159 boundaries refer to the part of the +A6Os44whp6Q-00279-00060160-00060335 hydrogen value chain that we're seeking +A6Os44whp6Q-00280-00060336-00060406 to certify +A6Os44whp6Q-00281-00060407-00060542 and this determines the emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-00282-00060544-00060759 coverage of the certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-00283-00060760-00060926 the diagram i've put on there's one you +A6Os44whp6Q-00284-00060927-00061142 might see more than once this afternoon +A6Os44whp6Q-00285-00061144-00061350 but that's okay it might take you a +A6Os44whp6Q-00286-00061351-00061511 while um +A6Os44whp6Q-00287-00061512-00061679 but basically it shows the various +A6Os44whp6Q-00288-00061679-00061847 choices that could be made regarding +A6Os44whp6Q-00289-00061848-00061966 boundaries +A6Os44whp6Q-00290-00061967-00062135 at the broadest end of the spectrum you +A6Os44whp6Q-00291-00062136-00062326 could count everything you could have a +A6Os44whp6Q-00292-00062327-00062511 full life cycle view of the system where +A6Os44whp6Q-00293-00062512-00062630 you would count everything from the +A6Os44whp6Q-00294-00062632-00062759 emissions embodied +A6Os44whp6Q-00295-00062760-00062903 in the capital equipment used to make +A6Os44whp6Q-00296-00062904-00063094 the hydrogen the emissions associated +A6Os44whp6Q-00297-00063095-00063247 with production +A6Os44whp6Q-00298-00063248-00063454 through to the end use and even disposal +A6Os44whp6Q-00299-00063455-00063599 of the product +A6Os44whp6Q-00300-00063600-00063742 or you could take a narrow review and +A6Os44whp6Q-00301-00063744-00063919 just talk about the emissions occurring +A6Os44whp6Q-00302-00063920-00064142 at the production facility +A6Os44whp6Q-00303-00064144-00064303 basically the smaller the boundary the +A6Os44whp6Q-00304-00064304-00064479 easier it is to manage and do +A6Os44whp6Q-00305-00064479-00064679 but the larger boundary provides a more +A6Os44whp6Q-00306-00064679-00064815 complete picture +A6Os44whp6Q-00307-00064816-00065159 of the carbon footprint certify which is +A6Os44whp6Q-00308-00065160-00065350 the leading +A6Os44whp6Q-00309-00065351-00065591 scheme hydrogen certification scheme at +A6Os44whp6Q-00310-00065592-00065750 the moment in europe +A6Os44whp6Q-00311-00065751-00065991 takes a will to gate approach and this +A6Os44whp6Q-00312-00065992-00066175 includes emissions associated +A6Os44whp6Q-00313-00066176-00066391 with any fossil fuel extraction +A6Os44whp6Q-00314-00066392-00066582 transport of these fossil fuels +A6Os44whp6Q-00315-00066583-00066726 and the emissions associated with +A6Os44whp6Q-00316-00066727-00066919 producing the hydrogen and in this +A6Os44whp6Q-00317-00066920-00067094 diagram that's those first three things +A6Os44whp6Q-00318-00067095-00067282 within that first +A6Os44whp6Q-00319-00067283-00067623 box through our survey around a quarter +A6Os44whp6Q-00320-00067624-00067726 of respondents +A6Os44whp6Q-00321-00067727-00067935 indicated some appetite for system +A6Os44whp6Q-00322-00067936-00068175 boundaries that were beyond weltergate +A6Os44whp6Q-00323-00068176-00068350 so maybe life cycle emissions or +A6Os44whp6Q-00324-00068351-00068519 including that next transport and +A6Os44whp6Q-00325-00068520-00068687 distribution step +A6Os44whp6Q-00326-00068688-00068831 but there also seems to be a fair amount +A6Os44whp6Q-00327-00068832-00068982 of support both domestically and +A6Os44whp6Q-00328-00068983-00069175 internationally for taking weltergate +A6Os44whp6Q-00329-00069176-00069375 as a starting point as this is +A6Os44whp6Q-00330-00069376-00069559 relatively easy to do +A6Os44whp6Q-00331-00069560-00069726 what else we need to cover and how +A6Os44whp6Q-00332-00069727-00069950 quickly is under consideration +A6Os44whp6Q-00333-00069951-00070182 but australian stakeholders notice have +A6Os44whp6Q-00334-00070183-00070367 noted the importance of certifying +A6Os44whp6Q-00335-00070368-00070575 energy carriers particularly ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-00336-00070576-00070750 so this might mean to be considered in +A6Os44whp6Q-00337-00070751-00070943 parallel and penn has a whole +A6Os44whp6Q-00338-00070944-00071126 presentation for you on ammonia so she +A6Os44whp6Q-00339-00071127-00071175 can +A6Os44whp6Q-00340-00071176-00071519 explain what i mean here in more detail +A6Os44whp6Q-00341-00071520-00071847 on to the next slide please um so once +A6Os44whp6Q-00342-00071848-00072006 we've worked out the boundary we need to +A6Os44whp6Q-00343-00072007-00072175 agree on some methods for accounting for +A6Os44whp6Q-00344-00072176-00072423 emissions within the boundary +A6Os44whp6Q-00345-00072424-00072567 and we have some existing frameworks +A6Os44whp6Q-00346-00072568-00072719 that we could draw on here such as +A6Os44whp6Q-00347-00072720-00072903 national greenhouse and energy reporting +A6Os44whp6Q-00348-00072904-00072999 system +A6Os44whp6Q-00349-00073000-00073255 or ingers for short and through the +A6Os44whp6Q-00350-00073256-00073415 survey we heard a pretty strong +A6Os44whp6Q-00351-00073416-00073543 preference for aligning with our +A6Os44whp6Q-00352-00073544-00073711 existing frameworks +A6Os44whp6Q-00353-00073712-00073926 with around 40 percent of respondents +A6Os44whp6Q-00354-00073927-00074087 expressing interest in the lining with +A6Os44whp6Q-00355-00074088-00074335 ingas +A6Os44whp6Q-00356-00074336-00074519 is based on international iso standards +A6Os44whp6Q-00357-00074520-00074703 that relate to environmental management +A6Os44whp6Q-00358-00074704-00074862 and the carbon footprints of products +A6Os44whp6Q-00359-00074863-00074911 and +A6Os44whp6Q-00360-00074912-00075071 these are slightly different to angers +A6Os44whp6Q-00361-00075072-00075247 but but +A6Os44whp6Q-00362-00075248-00075511 we couldn't probably work to align them +A6Os44whp6Q-00363-00075512-00075599 um +A6Os44whp6Q-00364-00075600-00076055 on to the next slide please +A6Os44whp6Q-00365-00076056-00076238 other considerations raised through +A6Os44whp6Q-00366-00076239-00076462 submissions in the workshop include +A6Os44whp6Q-00367-00076463-00076703 various options for governance whether +A6Os44whp6Q-00368-00076704-00076862 you have a government led or an +A6Os44whp6Q-00369-00076863-00077006 industry-led scheme or what are the +A6Os44whp6Q-00370-00077007-00077150 various roles for government and +A6Os44whp6Q-00371-00077151-00077255 industry +A6Os44whp6Q-00372-00077256-00077399 in this work and whether an +A6Os44whp6Q-00373-00077400-00077550 international body would be involved +A6Os44whp6Q-00374-00077551-00077679 over time +A6Os44whp6Q-00375-00077680-00077862 and whether we should provide additional +A6Os44whp6Q-00376-00077863-00078055 flexibility by permitting hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00377-00078056-00078238 producers to offset any remaining +A6Os44whp6Q-00378-00078239-00078319 emissions with +A6Os44whp6Q-00379-00078320-00078543 australian carpet credit units or +A6Os44whp6Q-00380-00078544-00078791 another similar unit +A6Os44whp6Q-00381-00078792-00079135 um and the last slide +A6Os44whp6Q-00382-00079136-00079462 um so where do we go from here um +A6Os44whp6Q-00383-00079463-00079599 at the moment there doesn't seem to be +A6Os44whp6Q-00384-00079600-00079726 an international scheme that we could +A6Os44whp6Q-00385-00079727-00079926 simply join up to +A6Os44whp6Q-00386-00079927-00080071 so we need to work out how we balance +A6Os44whp6Q-00387-00080072-00080247 these objectives of +A6Os44whp6Q-00388-00080248-00080415 timing implementing something soon and +A6Os44whp6Q-00389-00080416-00080638 being internationally aligned +A6Os44whp6Q-00390-00080639-00080943 um so a way forward could involve +A6Os44whp6Q-00391-00080944-00081126 sort of starting to develop a domestic +A6Os44whp6Q-00392-00081127-00081326 scheme that leverages our existing +A6Os44whp6Q-00393-00081327-00081423 frameworks +A6Os44whp6Q-00394-00081424-00081591 and tries to make them as consistent as +A6Os44whp6Q-00395-00081592-00081719 we can with what we know about +A6Os44whp6Q-00396-00081720-00081982 international schemes as they evolve +A6Os44whp6Q-00397-00081983-00082135 this could help to shape international +A6Os44whp6Q-00398-00082136-00082343 processes however we might need to +A6Os44whp6Q-00399-00082344-00082550 adjust our approach as global markets +A6Os44whp6Q-00400-00082551-00082815 evolve over time +A6Os44whp6Q-00401-00082816-00083062 the department has engaged energetics to +A6Os44whp6Q-00402-00083063-00083199 help us develop options for a +A6Os44whp6Q-00403-00083200-00083382 certification scheme and this report is +A6Os44whp6Q-00404-00083383-00083638 due by the end of october +A6Os44whp6Q-00405-00083639-00083815 following this we plan to release a +A6Os44whp6Q-00406-00083816-00084023 discussion paper around november setting +A6Os44whp6Q-00407-00084024-00084391 out a proposed approach for comment +A6Os44whp6Q-00408-00084392-00084550 we would like to start some trials and +A6Os44whp6Q-00409-00084551-00084806 methodologies in early 2021 +A6Os44whp6Q-00410-00084807-00085079 um if we can and we envisage these would +A6Os44whp6Q-00411-00085080-00085303 run for around 12 months +A6Os44whp6Q-00412-00085304-00085494 this position is a domestic scheme to +A6Os44whp6Q-00413-00085495-00085711 start around mid-2022 +A6Os44whp6Q-00414-00085712-00086038 or early 2023 +A6Os44whp6Q-00415-00086039-00086231 of course during this process we would +A6Os44whp6Q-00416-00086232-00086447 continue to engage internationally +A6Os44whp6Q-00417-00086448-00086711 with iph and other bilateral partners +A6Os44whp6Q-00418-00086712-00086967 and adjust our approach as necessary +A6Os44whp6Q-00419-00086968-00087191 so i guess in in time maria our approach +A6Os44whp6Q-00420-00087192-00087326 i think is to start +A6Os44whp6Q-00421-00087327-00087511 with an approach that is simple and can +A6Os44whp6Q-00422-00087512-00087703 be built on over time +A6Os44whp6Q-00423-00087704-00087894 all right thank you i think that that's +A6Os44whp6Q-00424-00087895-00088343 my presentation +A6Os44whp6Q-00425-00088344-00088543 wonderful thank you very much rebecca uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00426-00088544-00088750 for so clearly outlining +A6Os44whp6Q-00427-00088751-00089015 uh the international context for this +A6Os44whp6Q-00428-00089016-00089175 discussion and also +A6Os44whp6Q-00429-00089176-00089438 uh how australia's role feeds into this +A6Os44whp6Q-00430-00089439-00089543 and of course +A6Os44whp6Q-00431-00089544-00089806 australia has an enormous opportunity +A6Os44whp6Q-00432-00089807-00090047 here as a potential supply of hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00433-00090048-00090199 for a number of economies around the +A6Os44whp6Q-00434-00090200-00090415 world uh so we need to be in on the +A6Os44whp6Q-00435-00090416-00090591 ground floor in terms of setting the +A6Os44whp6Q-00436-00090592-00090806 parameters for a certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-00437-00090807-00091038 uh in order that that suits our best +A6Os44whp6Q-00438-00091039-00091191 interests so thank you very much for +A6Os44whp6Q-00439-00091192-00091350 making that presentation +A6Os44whp6Q-00440-00091351-00091559 uh from the hydrogen strategy team's +A6Os44whp6Q-00441-00091560-00091687 perspective from the department of +A6Os44whp6Q-00442-00091688-00091926 industry science energy and resources +A6Os44whp6Q-00443-00091927-00092215 uh so our next speaker is uh dr emma +A6Os44whp6Q-00444-00092216-00092415 aisbet emma is a fellow at the school of +A6Os44whp6Q-00445-00092416-00092799 regulation and global governance at the +A6Os44whp6Q-00446-00092800-00093087 college of asia and pacific she's also +A6Os44whp6Q-00447-00093088-00093311 associate director research for the anu +A6Os44whp6Q-00448-00093312-00093431 grand challenge +A6Os44whp6Q-00449-00093432-00093735 zero carbon energy for the asia pacific +A6Os44whp6Q-00450-00093736-00094071 so emma has a background in a range of +A6Os44whp6Q-00451-00094072-00094182 disciplines which +A6Os44whp6Q-00452-00094183-00094503 is one of the reasons that she's uh the +A6Os44whp6Q-00453-00094504-00094623 associate director for our +A6Os44whp6Q-00454-00094624-00094782 multi-disciplinary team in the grand +A6Os44whp6Q-00455-00094783-00094862 challenge +A6Os44whp6Q-00456-00094863-00095038 uh she has background in economic +A6Os44whp6Q-00457-00095039-00095255 globalization environmental policy +A6Os44whp6Q-00458-00095256-00095399 developing countries and political +A6Os44whp6Q-00459-00095400-00095567 economies and uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00460-00095568-00095767 was originally an engineer so uh brings +A6Os44whp6Q-00461-00095768-00095918 in all of those +A6Os44whp6Q-00462-00095919-00096174 talents and expertise she's best known +A6Os44whp6Q-00463-00096175-00096311 for work on international investment +A6Os44whp6Q-00464-00096312-00096431 agreements +A6Os44whp6Q-00465-00096432-00096687 uh where she's been working with both +A6Os44whp6Q-00466-00096688-00096823 academia and in +A6Os44whp6Q-00467-00096824-00097135 policy development and she's been an +A6Os44whp6Q-00468-00097136-00097335 invited expert at the oecd and the un +A6Os44whp6Q-00469-00097336-00097599 commission on trade and development +A6Os44whp6Q-00470-00097600-00097894 she's provided policy advice developing +A6Os44whp6Q-00471-00097895-00098023 countries +A6Os44whp6Q-00472-00098024-00098311 through the uk government's taf2 plus +A6Os44whp6Q-00473-00098312-00098399 initiative +A6Os44whp6Q-00474-00098400-00098582 uh so welcome emma and uh looking +A6Os44whp6Q-00475-00098583-00098799 forward to your presentation +A6Os44whp6Q-00476-00098800-00099047 thank you ken um and i can share my own +A6Os44whp6Q-00477-00099048-00099118 slides +A6Os44whp6Q-00478-00099119-00099482 um to make things a bit easier at your +A6Os44whp6Q-00479-00099483-00099711 end +A6Os44whp6Q-00480-00099712-00099918 so firstly can everyone hear me well +A6Os44whp6Q-00481-00099919-00100031 enough +A6Os44whp6Q-00482-00100032-00100543 yeah okay and can you see the slides +A6Os44whp6Q-00483-00100544-00100903 yes no yes okay +A6Os44whp6Q-00484-00100904-00101303 um all right i'll take it away so +A6Os44whp6Q-00485-00101304-00101543 uh i think i'm like to take this +A6Os44whp6Q-00486-00101544-00101679 opportunity today to talk about +A6Os44whp6Q-00487-00101680-00101743 something +A6Os44whp6Q-00488-00101744-00101918 a little narrower than i think the rest +A6Os44whp6Q-00489-00101919-00102094 of the panel is talking about +A6Os44whp6Q-00490-00102095-00102262 but in some sense it's also broader +A6Os44whp6Q-00491-00102263-00102510 because we're hearing increasingly from +A6Os44whp6Q-00492-00102511-00102671 the government +A6Os44whp6Q-00493-00102672-00102894 this concept of technology neutrality +A6Os44whp6Q-00494-00102895-00103071 it's turning up in the hydrogen strategy +A6Os44whp6Q-00495-00103072-00103230 it's turning up in the +A6Os44whp6Q-00496-00103231-00103447 lower emissions technology investment +A6Os44whp6Q-00497-00103448-00103663 roadmap and so i think it's really +A6Os44whp6Q-00498-00103664-00103839 timely to talk about what technology +A6Os44whp6Q-00499-00103840-00104006 neutrality actually means +A6Os44whp6Q-00500-00104007-00104182 and how would that look in the context +A6Os44whp6Q-00501-00104183-00104358 of a certification scheme for +A6Os44whp6Q-00502-00104359-00104678 hydrogen fuels +A6Os44whp6Q-00503-00104679-00104878 so what is technology neutrality if you +A6Os44whp6Q-00504-00104879-00105127 look around the academic literature +A6Os44whp6Q-00505-00105128-00105310 there's a few different definitions a +A6Os44whp6Q-00506-00105311-00105478 lot of them sort of actually +A6Os44whp6Q-00507-00105479-00105743 referring to formal law with regard to +A6Os44whp6Q-00508-00105744-00105983 policy one of the i think most useful +A6Os44whp6Q-00509-00105983-00106295 definitions is that by wiley from 2015 +A6Os44whp6Q-00510-00106296-00106566 which says um and i just feel like i +A6Os44whp6Q-00511-00106567-00106919 should put on slideshow +A6Os44whp6Q-00512-00106920-00107134 that technology neutrality means that +A6Os44whp6Q-00513-00107135-00107319 policy does not favor any particular +A6Os44whp6Q-00514-00107320-00107495 means of achieving the desired goal +A6Os44whp6Q-00515-00107496-00107654 specifically a policy must equally +A6Os44whp6Q-00516-00107655-00107807 support +A6Os44whp6Q-00517-00107808-00107958 all technologies capable of achieving +A6Os44whp6Q-00518-00107959-00108199 this outcome +A6Os44whp6Q-00519-00108200-00108447 and so sort of contrast that with what +A6Os44whp6Q-00520-00108448-00108686 technology neutrality does not mean +A6Os44whp6Q-00521-00108688-00108983 um technology neutral policy does not +A6Os44whp6Q-00522-00108983-00109031 aim +A6Os44whp6Q-00523-00109032-00109215 despite i think what a lot of people +A6Os44whp6Q-00524-00109216-00109383 seem to believe to ensure that all +A6Os44whp6Q-00525-00109383-00109478 technologies have an +A6Os44whp6Q-00526-00109479-00109702 equal or fair chance of succeeding in +A6Os44whp6Q-00527-00109703-00109783 the mullet +A6Os44whp6Q-00528-00109783-00110007 market i think this concept of what a +A6Os44whp6Q-00529-00110008-00110110 fair +A6Os44whp6Q-00530-00110111-00110343 competition is it's something because we +A6Os44whp6Q-00531-00110344-00110519 know fairness means a different thing in +A6Os44whp6Q-00532-00110520-00110671 a different context to every different +A6Os44whp6Q-00533-00110672-00110839 person and i'm going to elaborate on +A6Os44whp6Q-00534-00110840-00110975 that in a minute +A6Os44whp6Q-00535-00110976-00111175 um technology neutral policy also +A6Os44whp6Q-00536-00111176-00111383 doesn't seek to maximize the number of +A6Os44whp6Q-00537-00111383-00111583 technologies competing in a market if +A6Os44whp6Q-00538-00111583-00111702 there is a clear winner +A6Os44whp6Q-00539-00111703-00112007 then it lets there be a clear winner and +A6Os44whp6Q-00540-00112008-00112215 it certainly does not aim to ensure +A6Os44whp6Q-00541-00112216-00112439 that existing dominant technologies and +A6Os44whp6Q-00542-00112440-00112534 incumbents +A6Os44whp6Q-00543-00112535-00112927 maintain their competitive advantage +A6Os44whp6Q-00544-00112928-00113351 so to to use an analogy um +A6Os44whp6Q-00545-00113352-00113519 let's think about horse race policy +A6Os44whp6Q-00546-00113520-00113734 right so our policy objective is to +A6Os44whp6Q-00547-00113735-00113927 travel two kilometers on horseback +A6Os44whp6Q-00548-00113928-00114183 as fast as possible what would +A6Os44whp6Q-00549-00114183-00114295 technology neutral +A6Os44whp6Q-00550-00114296-00114519 policy look like to support that +A6Os44whp6Q-00551-00114520-00114639 objective +A6Os44whp6Q-00552-00114640-00114910 you would provide a flat clean grass +A6Os44whp6Q-00553-00114911-00115199 track well-functioning starting gates +A6Os44whp6Q-00554-00115200-00115366 and you would ensure that access to +A6Os44whp6Q-00555-00115367-00115534 racing silks and jockeys are not a +A6Os44whp6Q-00556-00115535-00115647 barrier to entry +A6Os44whp6Q-00557-00115648-00115807 that they're cheap and accessible to all +A6Os44whp6Q-00558-00115808-00116007 the technologies +A6Os44whp6Q-00559-00116008-00116278 note that the possible outcome of this +A6Os44whp6Q-00560-00116279-00116478 is that there isn't a lot of horses in +A6Os44whp6Q-00561-00116479-00116590 this race +A6Os44whp6Q-00562-00116591-00116847 it could be through self-selection when +A6Os44whp6Q-00563-00116848-00117039 everyone is treated equally +A6Os44whp6Q-00564-00117040-00117278 that only one horse enters if you're far +A6Os44whp6Q-00565-00117279-00117407 up and it's the +A6Os44whp6Q-00566-00117408-00117743 you know 1930s melbourne cup you really +A6Os44whp6Q-00567-00117744-00117895 if he hadn't been handicapped wouldn't +A6Os44whp6Q-00568-00117896-00118023 have bothered entering you wouldn't have +A6Os44whp6Q-00569-00118024-00118223 bothered paying the entry points right +A6Os44whp6Q-00570-00118224-00118431 so this is the important thing to note +A6Os44whp6Q-00571-00118432-00118599 about the difference between +A6Os44whp6Q-00572-00118600-00118871 technology neutral policy and policy +A6Os44whp6Q-00573-00118872-00119086 which is trying to keep all technologies +A6Os44whp6Q-00574-00119088-00119351 in the ranks +A6Os44whp6Q-00575-00119352-00119583 right so to further take this analogy at +A6Os44whp6Q-00576-00119583-00119751 risk too far +A6Os44whp6Q-00577-00119752-00120031 um what would technology bias horse +A6Os44whp6Q-00578-00120032-00120134 rates look like +A6Os44whp6Q-00579-00120135-00120334 what we actually did back back then and +A6Os44whp6Q-00580-00120335-00120527 continue to do in the melbourne cup +A6Os44whp6Q-00581-00120528-00120758 you'd actually handicap the the best +A6Os44whp6Q-00582-00120759-00120902 technology if you want by putting +A6Os44whp6Q-00583-00120903-00121014 weights in its saddle +A6Os44whp6Q-00584-00121015-00121158 but there are also a whole lot of ways +A6Os44whp6Q-00585-00121159-00121414 that you could implicitly bias things +A6Os44whp6Q-00586-00121415-00121623 you could for example if i like i +A6Os44whp6Q-00587-00121624-00121751 actually can't remember but +A6Os44whp6Q-00588-00121752-00121919 let's presume he was he was the best +A6Os44whp6Q-00589-00121920-00122190 horse for a clean dry track +A6Os44whp6Q-00590-00122191-00122471 um if you want to tilt the scales a bit +A6Os44whp6Q-00591-00122472-00122623 away from him or +A6Os44whp6Q-00592-00122624-00122814 um you could do something implicitly +A6Os44whp6Q-00593-00122815-00123014 biased by soaking the track and making +A6Os44whp6Q-00594-00123015-00123223 it muddy making the dirty horse +A6Os44whp6Q-00595-00123224-00123502 have an implicit advantage or if your +A6Os44whp6Q-00596-00123503-00123663 goal is actually long term +A6Os44whp6Q-00597-00123664-00123966 like zero emissions by 2050 +A6Os44whp6Q-00598-00123967-00124166 you could have your goals set at +A6Os44whp6Q-00599-00124167-00124327 something like 20 30 +A6Os44whp6Q-00600-00124328-00124502 and that would also be implicit bias if +A6Os44whp6Q-00601-00124503-00124719 your actual goal is 2050 +A6Os44whp6Q-00602-00124720-00124919 in the analogy for farlap it would be +A6Os44whp6Q-00603-00124920-00125039 you would decide the winner of the +A6Os44whp6Q-00604-00125040-00125110 melbourne cup +A6Os44whp6Q-00605-00125111-00125263 based on who was in front of the one +A6Os44whp6Q-00606-00125264-00125447 kilometer mark +A6Os44whp6Q-00607-00125448-00125663 right and so what would this policy come +A6Os44whp6Q-00608-00125664-00125854 out with many different outcomes it's a +A6Os44whp6Q-00609-00125855-00126023 much less clear outcome +A6Os44whp6Q-00610-00126024-00126183 right because you will have many more +A6Os44whp6Q-00611-00126183-00126334 horses in the race +A6Os44whp6Q-00612-00126335-00126590 it might be you will have achieved +A6Os44whp6Q-00613-00126591-00126727 pushing falaf harder +A6Os44whp6Q-00614-00126728-00126975 right so the competition will have made +A6Os44whp6Q-00615-00126976-00127190 fala give his absolute best which is +A6Os44whp6Q-00616-00127191-00127254 often +A6Os44whp6Q-00617-00127255-00127414 i think what's motivating people to +A6Os44whp6Q-00618-00127415-00127623 think that more technologies in the race +A6Os44whp6Q-00619-00127624-00127783 means a better outcome because it does +A6Os44whp6Q-00620-00127783-00127943 mean that farlout can't sit around +A6Os44whp6Q-00621-00127944-00128014 eating +A6Os44whp6Q-00622-00128015-00128151 oats and sitting around near stall all +A6Os44whp6Q-00623-00128152-00128351 day he's got to train hard he's got to +A6Os44whp6Q-00624-00128352-00128502 run his heart out +A6Os44whp6Q-00625-00128503-00128783 but when he does win he may still he's +A6Os44whp6Q-00626-00128783-00128934 likely to have done it slower than he +A6Os44whp6Q-00627-00128935-00129014 would have +A6Os44whp6Q-00628-00129015-00129302 had you had a truly technology mutual +A6Os44whp6Q-00629-00129303-00129463 race set up +A6Os44whp6Q-00630-00129464-00129607 and even worse you could have an +A6Os44whp6Q-00631-00129608-00129807 inferior horse winning in a right in a +A6Os44whp6Q-00632-00129808-00130063 time slower than pharlat would have +A6Os44whp6Q-00633-00130064-00130231 all right so it's not that hard to see +A6Os44whp6Q-00634-00130232-00130399 the links here to to the +A6Os44whp6Q-00635-00130400-00130678 context of a certifications game right +A6Os44whp6Q-00636-00130679-00130839 so what is our policy objective +A6Os44whp6Q-00637-00130840-00130990 according to the australian national +A6Os44whp6Q-00638-00130991-00131102 hygiene strategy +A6Os44whp6Q-00639-00131103-00131343 we want a clean innovative safe and +A6Os44whp6Q-00640-00131344-00131447 competitive +A6Os44whp6Q-00641-00131448-00131847 hydrogen fuels industry as rebecca said +A6Os44whp6Q-00642-00131848-00132031 the real motivation here +A6Os44whp6Q-00643-00132032-00132287 is to decarbonize our energy systems +A6Os44whp6Q-00644-00132288-00132343 right +A6Os44whp6Q-00645-00132344-00132583 so really um my my view of what the +A6Os44whp6Q-00646-00132584-00132711 objective is +A6Os44whp6Q-00647-00132712-00132839 is the large scale production of +A6Os44whp6Q-00648-00132840-00133102 hydrogen fuels which are competitive +A6Os44whp6Q-00649-00133103-00133295 compatible with decarbonisation +A6Os44whp6Q-00650-00133296-00133511 objectives +A6Os44whp6Q-00651-00133512-00133727 so what would technology mutual +A6Os44whp6Q-00652-00133728-00133927 certification policy look like +A6Os44whp6Q-00653-00133928-00134190 it would provide transparency about both +A6Os44whp6Q-00654-00134191-00134375 the production technologies +A6Os44whp6Q-00655-00134376-00134631 and the emissions all the way along the +A6Os44whp6Q-00656-00134632-00134751 supply chain +A6Os44whp6Q-00657-00134752-00134975 now we all understand that this can get +A6Os44whp6Q-00658-00134976-00135119 really costly right if you want to get +A6Os44whp6Q-00659-00135120-00135287 the emissions right down to the +A6Os44whp6Q-00660-00135288-00135590 to the 0.1 then then there's going to be +A6Os44whp6Q-00661-00135591-00135743 a trade-off here in terms of what's +A6Os44whp6Q-00662-00135744-00135895 feasible and not too costly and +A6Os44whp6Q-00663-00135896-00135966 therefore +A6Os44whp6Q-00664-00135967-00136127 becoming a barrier to entry to the +A6Os44whp6Q-00665-00136128-00136359 market and what is actually giving the +A6Os44whp6Q-00666-00136360-00136543 information that consumers need so so +A6Os44whp6Q-00667-00136544-00136687 i'm i'm saying 10 +A6Os44whp6Q-00668-00136688-00136895 here it's something that i think should +A6Os44whp6Q-00669-00136896-00137007 be open to debate +A6Os44whp6Q-00670-00137008-00137351 is how precise do we need what is too +A6Os44whp6Q-00671-00137352-00137535 much of the emissions to leave out +A6Os44whp6Q-00672-00137536-00137702 of that global supply chain if we're if +A6Os44whp6Q-00673-00137703-00137854 we're only looking at certain parts of +A6Os44whp6Q-00674-00137855-00137983 it +A6Os44whp6Q-00675-00137984-00138135 and so what's the possible outcome of +A6Os44whp6Q-00676-00138136-00138311 this it may well be +A6Os44whp6Q-00677-00138312-00138614 that you get um really strong growth in +A6Os44whp6Q-00678-00138615-00138814 renewable-based hydrogen fuels +A6Os44whp6Q-00679-00138815-00139095 and it may well be that incumbent fossil +A6Os44whp6Q-00680-00139096-00139175 fuel interests +A6Os44whp6Q-00681-00139176-00139478 in this country lose out okay that's an +A6Os44whp6Q-00682-00139479-00139790 actual possibility that technology +A6Os44whp6Q-00683-00139791-00140054 neutral policy might actually lead to +A6Os44whp6Q-00684-00140055-00140263 um what would technology buy a +A6Os44whp6Q-00685-00140264-00140471 certification look like +A6Os44whp6Q-00686-00140472-00140807 um you might have a binary as opposed to +A6Os44whp6Q-00687-00140808-00140975 just certifying what are the emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-00688-00140976-00141166 you might define what's clean and what's +A6Os44whp6Q-00689-00141167-00141254 not clean +A6Os44whp6Q-00690-00141255-00141431 and you might define clean as something +A6Os44whp6Q-00691-00141432-00141654 that actually most consumers wouldn't +A6Os44whp6Q-00692-00141655-00141975 consider clean another thing you might +A6Os44whp6Q-00693-00141976-00142007 do +A6Os44whp6Q-00694-00142008-00142311 is you might draw boundaries or scope +A6Os44whp6Q-00695-00142312-00142511 in a way that includes important +A6Os44whp6Q-00696-00142512-00142759 components of supply chain emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-00697-00142760-00142943 even worse you could find your scope in +A6Os44whp6Q-00698-00142944-00143111 a way that means +A6Os44whp6Q-00699-00143112-00143383 important components are included for +A6Os44whp6Q-00700-00143384-00143463 example +A6Os44whp6Q-00701-00143464-00143647 the emissions associated with +A6Os44whp6Q-00702-00143648-00143839 electricity for electrolysis +A6Os44whp6Q-00703-00143840-00144199 and excluded for um for fossil fuel base +A6Os44whp6Q-00704-00144200-00144271 for example +A6Os44whp6Q-00705-00144272-00144478 fugitive emissions from the extraction +A6Os44whp6Q-00706-00144479-00144639 of the gas that you use to make your +A6Os44whp6Q-00707-00144640-00144726 hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00708-00144727-00144935 okay these would actually be quite +A6Os44whp6Q-00709-00144936-00145302 seriously technology biased policies +A6Os44whp6Q-00710-00145303-00145447 what is the possible outcome of this +A6Os44whp6Q-00711-00145448-00145678 sort of policy the renewables based +A6Os44whp6Q-00712-00145679-00145790 hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00713-00145791-00145935 production which is ultimately what +A6Os44whp6Q-00714-00145936-00146078 we're going to need if we're going to +A6Os44whp6Q-00715-00146079-00146326 get to zero emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-00716-00146327-00146519 will not move down the coast curve as +A6Os44whp6Q-00717-00146520-00146663 fast as it otherwise would +A6Os44whp6Q-00718-00146664-00146799 you're not going to get far out getting +A6Os44whp6Q-00719-00146800-00146966 to that fishing finishing line +A6Os44whp6Q-00720-00146967-00147278 as fast as the otherwise would and +A6Os44whp6Q-00721-00147279-00147559 even worse because if you need three +A6Os44whp6Q-00722-00147560-00147726 times as much gas +A6Os44whp6Q-00723-00147727-00147871 to produce the hydrogen for the +A6Os44whp6Q-00724-00147872-00148007 equivalent amount of energy is just +A6Os44whp6Q-00725-00148008-00148207 burning that gas directly +A6Os44whp6Q-00726-00148208-00148407 and fugitive emissions are substantive +A6Os44whp6Q-00727-00148408-00148590 in addition the emissions from producing +A6Os44whp6Q-00728-00148591-00148743 hydrogen are substantial if they're not +A6Os44whp6Q-00729-00148744-00148926 captured and stored effectively +A6Os44whp6Q-00730-00148927-00149214 you could actually end up increasing +A6Os44whp6Q-00731-00149215-00149463 global emissions in the energy system +A6Os44whp6Q-00732-00149464-00149743 supposedly trying to produce a lower +A6Os44whp6Q-00733-00149744-00150102 emission fuel so just to to put some +A6Os44whp6Q-00734-00150103-00150271 numbers behind this and i thank +A6Os44whp6Q-00735-00150272-00150583 our team particularly fiona beck um and +A6Os44whp6Q-00736-00150584-00150735 and razer for doing these great +A6Os44whp6Q-00737-00150736-00150951 calculations and great diagrams +A6Os44whp6Q-00738-00150952-00151143 just to put some actual numbers behind +A6Os44whp6Q-00739-00151144-00151302 this so this is showing +A6Os44whp6Q-00740-00151303-00151519 some indicative emissions for hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00741-00151520-00151614 production +A6Os44whp6Q-00742-00151615-00151814 um at different parts of the supply +A6Os44whp6Q-00743-00151815-00152023 chain i think the really important thing +A6Os44whp6Q-00744-00152024-00152151 to see here is +A6Os44whp6Q-00745-00152152-00152414 the size of those feedstock emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-00746-00152415-00152471 for +A6Os44whp6Q-00747-00152472-00152807 um for gas generated hydrogen okay +A6Os44whp6Q-00748-00152808-00153007 so if you're leaving out feedstocks +A6Os44whp6Q-00749-00153008-00153214 because they're scope three +A6Os44whp6Q-00750-00153215-00153583 then you are leaving out um the bulk +A6Os44whp6Q-00751-00153584-00153719 when it comes if you're talking about +A6Os44whp6Q-00752-00153720-00153878 with serious amounts of carbon capture +A6Os44whp6Q-00753-00153879-00153951 and storage +A6Os44whp6Q-00754-00153952-00154135 the bulk of the emissions from that sort +A6Os44whp6Q-00755-00154136-00154278 of hydrogen production +A6Os44whp6Q-00756-00154279-00154671 and even compared to smr from gas +A6Os44whp6Q-00757-00154672-00154935 without any carbon capture and storage +A6Os44whp6Q-00758-00154936-00155102 you can see that those feedstocks +A6Os44whp6Q-00759-00155103-00155263 emissions are about 25 +A6Os44whp6Q-00760-00155264-00155495 of the total amount so this is actually +A6Os44whp6Q-00761-00155496-00155678 a certification scheme that ignores +A6Os44whp6Q-00762-00155679-00155814 those potentially classified +A6Os44whp6Q-00763-00155815-00156119 scope 3 emissions um +A6Os44whp6Q-00764-00156120-00156414 actually is leaving out you know a very +A6Os44whp6Q-00765-00156415-00156511 large fraction +A6Os44whp6Q-00766-00156512-00156823 of the actual emission from the supply +A6Os44whp6Q-00767-00156824-00156966 chain here so this is why +A6Os44whp6Q-00768-00156967-00157102 those boundaries and this is why you're +A6Os44whp6Q-00769-00157103-00157239 going to keep seeing these boundary +A6Os44whp6Q-00770-00157240-00157359 diagrams turning up +A6Os44whp6Q-00771-00157360-00157607 in people's presentations the boundaries +A6Os44whp6Q-00772-00157608-00157751 of the certifications going really +A6Os44whp6Q-00773-00157752-00157814 matter +A6Os44whp6Q-00774-00157815-00158078 and they definitely have implications +A6Os44whp6Q-00775-00158079-00158126 for +A6Os44whp6Q-00776-00158127-00158399 which which technologies and indeed +A6Os44whp6Q-00777-00158400-00158607 which fuels those pen will talk about +A6Os44whp6Q-00778-00158608-00158863 um have implicit advantage from the +A6Os44whp6Q-00779-00158864-00159143 certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-00780-00159144-00159366 so in conclusion technology neutrality +A6Os44whp6Q-00781-00159367-00159535 sounds great and has a lot to +A6Os44whp6Q-00782-00159536-00159831 be said for it if done well however if +A6Os44whp6Q-00783-00159832-00159999 misunderstood or mis +A6Os44whp6Q-00784-00160000-00160239 applied it can produce both inefficient +A6Os44whp6Q-00785-00160240-00160399 and unfair outcomes +A6Os44whp6Q-00786-00160400-00160663 and as i said even leave this new clean +A6Os44whp6Q-00787-00160664-00160847 fuel to lead to more emissions than we +A6Os44whp6Q-00788-00160848-00160999 have currently from using gas +A6Os44whp6Q-00789-00161000-00161343 itself technology neutral certification +A6Os44whp6Q-00790-00161344-00161487 properly done will ensure +A6Os44whp6Q-00791-00161488-00161671 transparency of the substantive +A6Os44whp6Q-00792-00161672-00161919 emissions all along the supply chain +A6Os44whp6Q-00793-00161920-00162078 admittedly that is going to be tricky +A6Os44whp6Q-00794-00162079-00162223 particularly in the timelines that we're +A6Os44whp6Q-00795-00162224-00162335 talking about +A6Os44whp6Q-00796-00162336-00162502 so we might need something like a +A6Os44whp6Q-00797-00162503-00162654 modular approach +A6Os44whp6Q-00798-00162655-00162943 but we do need very clear but to be very +A6Os44whp6Q-00799-00162944-00163039 clear so that +A6Os44whp6Q-00800-00163040-00163263 firms can make long-term and medium-term +A6Os44whp6Q-00801-00163264-00163390 investment decisions +A6Os44whp6Q-00802-00163391-00163599 about where these schemes are going and +A6Os44whp6Q-00803-00163600-00163759 that they will include +A6Os44whp6Q-00804-00163760-00163935 all the substantive parts of the supply +A6Os44whp6Q-00805-00163936-00164119 chain in the very near future +A6Os44whp6Q-00806-00164120-00164423 thank you +A6Os44whp6Q-00807-00164424-00164726 thank you very much emma and uh we'll +A6Os44whp6Q-00808-00164727-00164759 now +A6Os44whp6Q-00809-00164760-00165071 move on to our next presenter +A6Os44whp6Q-00810-00165072-00165383 so penelope howarth +A6Os44whp6Q-00811-00165384-00165735 joining us uh at the inu in the grand +A6Os44whp6Q-00812-00165736-00165895 challenge zero carbon energy for the +A6Os44whp6Q-00813-00165896-00166007 asia pacific as +A6Os44whp6Q-00814-00166008-00166271 a uh a contributor to our research +A6Os44whp6Q-00815-00166272-00166366 program uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00816-00166367-00166566 but penelope hails from the department +A6Os44whp6Q-00817-00166567-00166831 of foreign affairs and trade as uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00818-00166832-00167143 her uh her workplace uh so uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00819-00167144-00167487 penn uh has a a long +A6Os44whp6Q-00820-00167488-00167687 history of contribution to the energy +A6Os44whp6Q-00821-00167688-00167878 space she was +A6Os44whp6Q-00822-00167879-00168166 working with apec the energy working +A6Os44whp6Q-00823-00168167-00168207 group +A6Os44whp6Q-00824-00168208-00168399 and hitting that up for a number of +A6Os44whp6Q-00825-00168400-00168590 years in singapore +A6Os44whp6Q-00826-00168591-00168895 and uh we have uh benefited +A6Os44whp6Q-00827-00168896-00169063 greatly from her experience in joining +A6Os44whp6Q-00828-00169064-00169207 the grand challenge +A6Os44whp6Q-00829-00169208-00169495 and working on the certification issues +A6Os44whp6Q-00830-00169496-00169647 surrounding ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-00831-00169648-00169966 so uh penelope please be welcome +A6Os44whp6Q-00832-00169967-00170190 and and provide your insights on this +A6Os44whp6Q-00833-00170191-00171807 particular topic +A6Os44whp6Q-00834-00171808-00173638 and you need to unmute +A6Os44whp6Q-00835-00173639-00173983 thank you thanks a lot ross okay +A6Os44whp6Q-00836-00173984-00174326 um sorry about that everyone um +A6Os44whp6Q-00837-00174327-00174623 can you make it full screen yes i'm +A6Os44whp6Q-00838-00174624-00174735 working on that +A6Os44whp6Q-00839-00174736-00175063 there we go okay let me take it back +A6Os44whp6Q-00840-00175064-00175407 so so yes as ken mentioned um +A6Os44whp6Q-00841-00175408-00175678 i'm a research fellow at the anu's grand +A6Os44whp6Q-00842-00175679-00175743 challenge +A6Os44whp6Q-00843-00175744-00176063 um uh for the last six months or so +A6Os44whp6Q-00844-00176064-00176454 and um i've been working with a +A6Os44whp6Q-00845-00176455-00176863 quite a considerable team of researchers +A6Os44whp6Q-00846-00176864-00177087 on pneumonia +A6Os44whp6Q-00847-00177088-00177390 so uh why are we talking about him +A6Os44whp6Q-00848-00177391-00177566 can you just make your full screen +A6Os44whp6Q-00849-00177567-00177887 presentation there +A6Os44whp6Q-00850-00177888-00178183 that's okay so why are we talking about +A6Os44whp6Q-00851-00178184-00178263 ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-00852-00178264-00178583 um as as everyone i hope +A6Os44whp6Q-00853-00178584-00178895 knows but just in case um uh +A6Os44whp6Q-00854-00178896-00179199 when you add nitrogen to hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00855-00179200-00179414 uh through a process called the hub +A6Os44whp6Q-00856-00179415-00179519 bosch process +A6Os44whp6Q-00857-00179520-00179726 which is quite an old technology it's +A6Os44whp6Q-00858-00179727-00180014 been used for over 100 years +A6Os44whp6Q-00859-00180015-00180351 um you produce ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-00860-00180352-00180687 um so why would you want to produce +A6Os44whp6Q-00861-00180688-00181087 ammonia rather than shipping hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00862-00181088-00181359 to japan korea germany wherever +A6Os44whp6Q-00863-00181360-00181566 singapore +A6Os44whp6Q-00864-00181567-00181887 is because hydrogen is +A6Os44whp6Q-00865-00181888-00182295 quite difficult to store and transport +A6Os44whp6Q-00866-00182296-00182559 stay in a stable way it needs to be +A6Os44whp6Q-00867-00182560-00182638 super cool +A6Os44whp6Q-00868-00182639-00183007 to something like minus 250 degrees +A6Os44whp6Q-00869-00183008-00183375 and uh and it's much easier and cheaper +A6Os44whp6Q-00870-00183376-00183799 to transport ammonia so you can um +A6Os44whp6Q-00871-00183800-00184102 you can transport hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00872-00184103-00184423 by converting it to ammonia and then +A6Os44whp6Q-00873-00184424-00184799 shipping the ammonia so obviously why +A6Os44whp6Q-00874-00184800-00185038 are we talking about ammonia and +A6Os44whp6Q-00875-00185039-00185119 hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00876-00185120-00185326 when obviously there are plenty of other +A6Os44whp6Q-00877-00185327-00185511 energy sources that have been around a +A6Os44whp6Q-00878-00185512-00185638 long time +A6Os44whp6Q-00879-00185639-00185959 and obviously that has to do with uh the +A6Os44whp6Q-00880-00185960-00186071 paris agreement +A6Os44whp6Q-00881-00186072-00186335 and uh general concern about +A6Os44whp6Q-00882-00186336-00186414 catastrophic +A6Os44whp6Q-00883-00186415-00186775 climate change and the need to um +A6Os44whp6Q-00884-00186776-00187150 decarbonize uh the energy systems +A6Os44whp6Q-00885-00187151-00187366 of the world so all countries are +A6Os44whp6Q-00886-00187367-00187463 working +A6Os44whp6Q-00887-00187464-00187799 towards that one of the +A6Os44whp6Q-00888-00187800-00188119 interesting things that i've um sort of +A6Os44whp6Q-00889-00188120-00188454 the penny dropped is that um when you +A6Os44whp6Q-00890-00188455-00188495 burn +A6Os44whp6Q-00891-00188496-00188959 ammonia or hydrogen say in japan +A6Os44whp6Q-00892-00188960-00189159 whether that ammonia or hydrogen was +A6Os44whp6Q-00893-00189160-00189399 made from fossil fuels in australia or +A6Os44whp6Q-00894-00189400-00189543 from renewable energy +A6Os44whp6Q-00895-00189544-00189919 or from nuclear even no matter what +A6Os44whp6Q-00896-00189920-00190119 once it's in japan as ammonia or +A6Os44whp6Q-00897-00190120-00190359 hydrogen and your burner is zero +A6Os44whp6Q-00898-00190360-00190550 greenhouse gases +A6Os44whp6Q-00899-00190551-00190854 so it's a great fuel for japan i guess +A6Os44whp6Q-00900-00190855-00190966 the question as +A6Os44whp6Q-00901-00190967-00191302 as emma alluded to is what are the +A6Os44whp6Q-00902-00191303-00191502 emissions implications +A6Os44whp6Q-00903-00191503-00191919 for the country producing that new fuel +A6Os44whp6Q-00904-00191920-00192350 and obviously hydrogen is uh potentially +A6Os44whp6Q-00905-00192351-00192678 an ammonia potentially can generate +A6Os44whp6Q-00906-00192679-00192919 greenhouse gases if produced from fossil +A6Os44whp6Q-00907-00192920-00192999 fuels +A6Os44whp6Q-00908-00193000-00193223 but of course there are all these +A6Os44whp6Q-00909-00193224-00193319 definitions +A6Os44whp6Q-00910-00193320-00193583 are uh out there and they're they're +A6Os44whp6Q-00911-00193584-00193735 more and more colors every day it's +A6Os44whp6Q-00912-00193736-00193847 quite confusing +A6Os44whp6Q-00913-00193848-00194183 what's clean green blue grey turquoise +A6Os44whp6Q-00914-00194184-00194271 even +A6Os44whp6Q-00915-00194272-00194454 people are talking about these colors +A6Os44whp6Q-00916-00194455-00194599 and i don't +A6Os44whp6Q-00917-00194600-00194735 know if they're always talking about the +A6Os44whp6Q-00918-00194736-00194990 same thing so it depends who you ask +A6Os44whp6Q-00919-00194991-00195326 what blue is for instance is 60 carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-00920-00195327-00195407 capture +A6Os44whp6Q-00921-00195408-00195575 and storage blue or it doesn't need to +A6Os44whp6Q-00922-00195576-00195783 be 90 um +A6Os44whp6Q-00923-00195784-00196247 or 40 um would it include uh some +A6Os44whp6Q-00924-00196248-00196399 various different technologies for +A6Os44whp6Q-00925-00196400-00196607 storing and using the carbon it depends +A6Os44whp6Q-00926-00196608-00196750 who you ask +A6Os44whp6Q-00927-00196751-00197038 so um this is background to to um the +A6Os44whp6Q-00928-00197039-00197175 research that +A6Os44whp6Q-00929-00197176-00197511 i've undertaken obviously um there will +A6Os44whp6Q-00930-00197512-00197614 be many +A6Os44whp6Q-00931-00197615-00197863 buyers and sellers of ammonia and +A6Os44whp6Q-00932-00197864-00198007 hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00933-00198008-00198271 in the world economy and the global +A6Os44whp6Q-00934-00198272-00198319 playing +A6Os44whp6Q-00935-00198320-00198623 playing field i guess if we all are +A6Os44whp6Q-00936-00198624-00198775 talking about the same thing +A6Os44whp6Q-00937-00198776-00199063 when we talk about what is the price of +A6Os44whp6Q-00938-00199064-00199238 ammonia or hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-00939-00199239-00199583 per per kilogram per tonne +A6Os44whp6Q-00940-00199584-00199743 and there are all these density issues +A6Os44whp6Q-00941-00199744-00199983 as well that people talk about +A6Os44whp6Q-00942-00199984-00200143 so we need to be talking about the same +A6Os44whp6Q-00943-00200144-00200311 thing and there needs to be a standard +A6Os44whp6Q-00944-00200312-00200399 kind of price +A6Os44whp6Q-00945-00200400-00200735 and measurement price and similarly +A6Os44whp6Q-00946-00200736-00200990 because the purchase decision is not +A6Os44whp6Q-00947-00200991-00201119 just about the price +A6Os44whp6Q-00948-00201120-00201447 for the consumers um the consumers will +A6Os44whp6Q-00949-00201448-00201526 be to +A6Os44whp6Q-00950-00201527-00201911 one extent or another interested in +A6Os44whp6Q-00951-00201912-00202183 how many greenhouse gas emissions were +A6Os44whp6Q-00952-00202184-00202302 produced +A6Os44whp6Q-00953-00202303-00202575 in uh this kind of ammonia that i'm +A6Os44whp6Q-00954-00202576-00202671 buying or +A6Os44whp6Q-00955-00202672-00202959 or hydrogen so having sort of +A6Os44whp6Q-00956-00202960-00203183 standardized measures of those two +A6Os44whp6Q-00957-00203184-00203343 particular things +A6Os44whp6Q-00958-00203344-00203511 are going to be very important to create +A6Os44whp6Q-00959-00203512-00203719 a global marketplace +A6Os44whp6Q-00960-00203720-00204047 that's transparent and people can +A6Os44whp6Q-00961-00204048-00204399 really uh have confidence in +A6Os44whp6Q-00962-00204400-00204719 so how do we get there um +A6Os44whp6Q-00963-00204720-00204982 so why do we need to uh certify ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-00964-00204983-00205046 i think +A6Os44whp6Q-00965-00205048-00205262 rebecca covered that off very well and +A6Os44whp6Q-00966-00205263-00205471 then more academics speak +A6Os44whp6Q-00967-00205471-00205638 we talk about an asymmetry of +A6Os44whp6Q-00968-00205639-00205862 information market failure +A6Os44whp6Q-00969-00205863-00206182 where you know if you look at an ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-00970-00206183-00206462 molecule under the microscope or a +A6Os44whp6Q-00971-00206463-00206598 hydrogen one +A6Os44whp6Q-00972-00206600-00206823 it looks the same regardless of what +A6Os44whp6Q-00973-00206823-00206975 technology was used +A6Os44whp6Q-00974-00206976-00207294 to create it so you really need some +A6Os44whp6Q-00975-00207296-00207398 sort of a +A6Os44whp6Q-00976-00207400-00207703 certification system so buyers can can +A6Os44whp6Q-00977-00207704-00207934 know what the greenhouse gas profile is +A6Os44whp6Q-00978-00207935-00208158 of this particular batch of +A6Os44whp6Q-00979-00208159-00208446 hydrogen or ammonia that they're buying +A6Os44whp6Q-00980-00208448-00208566 um +A6Os44whp6Q-00981-00208567-00208871 so in terms of uh as as again +A6Os44whp6Q-00982-00208871-00209223 uh rebecca has mentioned um +A6Os44whp6Q-00983-00209223-00209558 currently the price of uh low or zero +A6Os44whp6Q-00984-00209559-00209631 emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-00985-00209632-00209942 ammonia or hydrogen is is higher +A6Os44whp6Q-00986-00209944-00210287 than the price of uh high +A6Os44whp6Q-00987-00210288-00210615 well ammonia or hydrogen currently +A6Os44whp6Q-00988-00210616-00210679 produced +A6Os44whp6Q-00989-00210680-00210934 through uh through fossil fuel +A6Os44whp6Q-00990-00210935-00211151 production with with no carbon capture +A6Os44whp6Q-00991-00211152-00211287 and storage and even +A6Os44whp6Q-00992-00211288-00211558 uh with carbon capture depending on the +A6Os44whp6Q-00993-00211559-00211694 technology +A6Os44whp6Q-00994-00211696-00211942 renewable ammonia may be more expensive +A6Os44whp6Q-00995-00211944-00212103 at least initially +A6Os44whp6Q-00996-00212104-00212487 because uh production of ammonia from +A6Os44whp6Q-00997-00212488-00212719 and hydrogen from renewable energy is a +A6Os44whp6Q-00998-00212719-00212958 relatively immature technology +A6Os44whp6Q-00999-00212959-00213279 it's proven you can do it but it doesn't +A6Os44whp6Q-01000-00213280-00213519 have the benefits of you know 50 years +A6Os44whp6Q-01001-00213519-00213567 of +A6Os44whp6Q-01002-00213567-00213806 having produced ammonia at scale +A6Os44whp6Q-01003-00213807-00213982 although if you ask yarra +A6Os44whp6Q-01004-00213983-00214127 which is one of the world's biggest +A6Os44whp6Q-01005-00214128-00214310 ammonia producers +A6Os44whp6Q-01006-00214311-00214527 up until i think the 60s all of the +A6Os44whp6Q-01007-00214528-00214710 ammonia they produced was +A6Os44whp6Q-01008-00214711-00214942 from renewable energy they claimed and +A6Os44whp6Q-01009-00214944-00215063 they only uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01010-00215064-00215375 moved to fossil fuels in response to +A6Os44whp6Q-01011-00215376-00215782 cheap relatively low prices fossil fuels +A6Os44whp6Q-01012-00215783-00215879 compared with the +A6Os44whp6Q-01013-00215880-00216071 renewable resources they had been using +A6Os44whp6Q-01014-00216071-00216279 until then so it's back to the future +A6Os44whp6Q-01015-00216280-00216382 for yara +A6Os44whp6Q-01016-00216383-00216734 um and obviously uh whatever we do with +A6Os44whp6Q-01017-00216735-00216823 certification +A6Os44whp6Q-01018-00216823-00217103 the key thing is that when companies +A6Os44whp6Q-01019-00217104-00217182 offer that +A6Os44whp6Q-01020-00217183-00217446 certification to their buyers whether +A6Os44whp6Q-01021-00217448-00217542 they're in japan +A6Os44whp6Q-01022-00217544-00217887 germany you know singapore +A6Os44whp6Q-01023-00217888-00218191 or korea or anywhere else +A6Os44whp6Q-01024-00218192-00218375 the importers need to recognize that +A6Os44whp6Q-01025-00218376-00218558 certification system +A6Os44whp6Q-01026-00218559-00218782 and it's going to be interesting if the +A6Os44whp6Q-01027-00218783-00218967 saudis are selling their +A6Os44whp6Q-01028-00218967-00219175 ammonia with a different certification +A6Os44whp6Q-01029-00219176-00219310 system and +A6Os44whp6Q-01030-00219311-00219463 you know norway is selling it with +A6Os44whp6Q-01031-00219464-00219671 another one and chile is +A6Os44whp6Q-01032-00219671-00219798 selling it with another one it's going +A6Os44whp6Q-01033-00219800-00219998 to be an interesting +A6Os44whp6Q-01034-00220000-00220231 experience for the potential importers +A6Os44whp6Q-01035-00220232-00220367 um so +A6Os44whp6Q-01036-00220367-00220639 hence rebecca's a very important point +A6Os44whp6Q-01037-00220640-00220710 about +A6Os44whp6Q-01038-00220711-00221079 international harmonisation and i will +A6Os44whp6Q-01039-00221080-00221263 just to reference that there isn't a +A6Os44whp6Q-01040-00221264-00221439 forthcoming publication that will cover +A6Os44whp6Q-01041-00221440-00221558 these issues +A6Os44whp6Q-01042-00221559-00221846 um from my anu colleagues which i'm +A6Os44whp6Q-01043-00221848-00221991 called through +A6Os44whp6Q-01044-00221992-00222198 um we've already seen this very +A6Os44whp6Q-01045-00222200-00222334 important i find it +A6Os44whp6Q-01046-00222335-00222567 so helpful visually to be able to look +A6Os44whp6Q-01047-00222567-00222671 at this +A6Os44whp6Q-01048-00222671-00222934 and one of the interesting points with +A6Os44whp6Q-01049-00222935-00223015 uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01050-00223016-00223406 ammonia versus hydrogen certification +A6Os44whp6Q-01051-00223407-00223806 this transportation leg um +A6Os44whp6Q-01052-00223807-00224127 for after the point of production i i +A6Os44whp6Q-01053-00224128-00224375 if you have to supercool hydrogen to +A6Os44whp6Q-01054-00224376-00224623 minus 250 degrees celsius +A6Os44whp6Q-01055-00224623-00225031 to move it safely versus minus 25 +A6Os44whp6Q-01056-00225032-00225246 degrees for ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01057-00225248-00225631 then surely the transportation leg for +A6Os44whp6Q-01058-00225632-00225806 hydrogen would be a lot more energy +A6Os44whp6Q-01059-00225807-00225934 intensive +A6Os44whp6Q-01060-00225935-00226198 and if your ship is being run on heavy +A6Os44whp6Q-01061-00226200-00226287 oil +A6Os44whp6Q-01062-00226288-00226703 as a lot of ships are or lpg or lng or +A6Os44whp6Q-01063-00226704-00227015 or a green ammonia for that matter it +A6Os44whp6Q-01064-00227016-00227071 really +A6Os44whp6Q-01065-00227071-00227294 will make quite a difference to the +A6Os44whp6Q-01066-00227296-00227471 transportation emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-01067-00227471-00227679 whether you're transporting hydrogen or +A6Os44whp6Q-01068-00227680-00227871 ammonia so as +A6Os44whp6Q-01069-00227871-00228215 emma sort of uh highlighted +A6Os44whp6Q-01070-00228216-00228582 the boundaries you choose +A6Os44whp6Q-01071-00228583-00228894 will advantage certain fuels over others +A6Os44whp6Q-01072-00228896-00229110 and so it's very important to take a +A6Os44whp6Q-01073-00229111-00229239 holistic +A6Os44whp6Q-01074-00229240-00229527 view of the various fuels that are +A6Os44whp6Q-01075-00229528-00229855 competing for instance biofuels hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01076-00229856-00230231 ammonia lng um etc +A6Os44whp6Q-01077-00230232-00230439 uh liquid organic hydrogen character +A6Os44whp6Q-01078-00230440-00230567 carriers as well +A6Os44whp6Q-01079-00230567-00230839 are in the mix so you know if you've got +A6Os44whp6Q-01080-00230840-00231039 all those horses running +A6Os44whp6Q-01081-00231040-00231255 uh what sort of things can you do to +A6Os44whp6Q-01082-00231256-00231415 make sure that this is +A6Os44whp6Q-01083-00231416-00231615 a you know a fair race course for +A6Os44whp6Q-01084-00231616-00231734 everyone +A6Os44whp6Q-01085-00231735-00232046 um so how do we do it +A6Os44whp6Q-01086-00232048-00232327 um and i think we already had this uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01087-00232328-00232439 from +A6Os44whp6Q-01088-00232440-00232742 from rebecca but what's uh just want to +A6Os44whp6Q-01089-00232744-00232919 highlight that the government has +A6Os44whp6Q-01090-00232919-00233046 pointed out +A6Os44whp6Q-01091-00233048-00233255 that scope 1 and scope 2 carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-01092-00233256-00233351 emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-01093-00233352-00233655 are what they're seeking to include +A6Os44whp6Q-01094-00233656-00234039 um not scope 3 at this stage +A6Os44whp6Q-01095-00234040-00234391 um so and other +A6Os44whp6Q-01096-00234392-00234631 uh often when i'm talking about hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01097-00234632-00234839 or ammonia certification people say what +A6Os44whp6Q-01098-00234840-00234951 about water +A6Os44whp6Q-01099-00234952-00235263 what is a key input not just electricity +A6Os44whp6Q-01100-00235264-00235463 to producing ammonia for instance and +A6Os44whp6Q-01101-00235464-00235606 hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01102-00235607-00235855 particularly the hydrogen stage and +A6Os44whp6Q-01103-00235856-00235975 there's a lot of +A6Os44whp6Q-01104-00235976-00236175 questions about water should be included +A6Os44whp6Q-01105-00236176-00236415 in the certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01106-00236416-00236727 so uh while we've all agreed to i think +A6Os44whp6Q-01107-00236728-00236871 it's sdg-6 +A6Os44whp6Q-01108-00236871-00237142 the sustainable development goal um to +A6Os44whp6Q-01109-00237144-00237310 you know +A6Os44whp6Q-01110-00237311-00237606 manage water responsibly um which is +A6Os44whp6Q-01111-00237607-00237879 very important for all countries +A6Os44whp6Q-01112-00237880-00238158 it's not only important for hydrogen as +A6Os44whp6Q-01113-00238159-00238239 a fuel +A6Os44whp6Q-01114-00238240-00238423 it's important for all the other fuels +A6Os44whp6Q-01115-00238423-00238598 that it's competing with as well +A6Os44whp6Q-01116-00238600-00238791 so that really needs to be taken into +A6Os44whp6Q-01117-00238792-00239015 account if you're designing a water +A6Os44whp6Q-01118-00239016-00239239 certification system +A6Os44whp6Q-01119-00239240-00239567 which i suggest might be done separately +A6Os44whp6Q-01120-00239567-00239863 certainly at this stage emissions and +A6Os44whp6Q-01121-00239864-00239982 technology +A6Os44whp6Q-01122-00239983-00240239 and production locations seem to be the +A6Os44whp6Q-01123-00240240-00240327 three +A6Os44whp6Q-01124-00240328-00240567 uh elements everyone can agree on +A6Os44whp6Q-01125-00240567-00240694 hopefully +A6Os44whp6Q-01126-00240696-00240998 so um just i'll +A6Os44whp6Q-01127-00241000-00241191 hurry up now because i think i'm taking +A6Os44whp6Q-01128-00241192-00241455 too long ammonia is obviously +A6Os44whp6Q-01129-00241456-00241767 emerging not just as a hydrogen carrier +A6Os44whp6Q-01130-00241767-00242039 you can crack the ammonia back into +A6Os44whp6Q-01131-00242040-00242287 hydrogen at the destination market such +A6Os44whp6Q-01132-00242288-00242398 as in japan +A6Os44whp6Q-01133-00242400-00242694 and they can put the hydrogen backing +A6Os44whp6Q-01134-00242696-00242942 into their hydrogen-fueled vehicles and +A6Os44whp6Q-01135-00242944-00243015 just release +A6Os44whp6Q-01136-00243016-00243198 nitrogen into the atmosphere it's not a +A6Os44whp6Q-01137-00243200-00243375 greenhouse gas and +A6Os44whp6Q-01138-00243376-00243639 and it's uh it's it's not a big problem +A6Os44whp6Q-01139-00243640-00243734 but +A6Os44whp6Q-01140-00243735-00244006 there are people designing fuel cells +A6Os44whp6Q-01141-00244007-00244103 today +A6Os44whp6Q-01142-00244104-00244375 that will run on ammonia why crack it +A6Os44whp6Q-01143-00244376-00244494 back when you can just +A6Os44whp6Q-01144-00244496-00244758 run you know use the ammonia as ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01145-00244759-00244958 and this is in particular +A6Os44whp6Q-01146-00244959-00245158 being looked at in japan for coal coal +A6Os44whp6Q-01147-00245159-00245263 firing +A6Os44whp6Q-01148-00245264-00245558 and that's well into demonstration phase +A6Os44whp6Q-01149-00245559-00245623 and +A6Os44whp6Q-01150-00245623-00245839 um there's an agreement between uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01151-00245840-00246079 australian i think it's woodside and +A6Os44whp6Q-01152-00246080-00246351 and the big japanese coal power plant +A6Os44whp6Q-01153-00246352-00246455 owners +A6Os44whp6Q-01154-00246456-00246775 to co-fire with ammonia that could bring +A6Os44whp6Q-01155-00246776-00246998 japan's coal emissions down +A6Os44whp6Q-01156-00247000-00247127 significantly +A6Os44whp6Q-01157-00247128-00247510 by 20 even if they co-fire with 20 +A6Os44whp6Q-01158-00247511-00247871 ammonia um so that's quite exciting um +A6Os44whp6Q-01159-00247871-00247942 as +A6Os44whp6Q-01160-00247944-00248215 like ccs is also obviously a technology +A6Os44whp6Q-01161-00248216-00248367 everyone's been looking at for a long +A6Os44whp6Q-01162-00248367-00248494 time for that +A6Os44whp6Q-01163-00248496-00248846 and shipping fuels are very important +A6Os44whp6Q-01164-00248848-00249175 and huge market that there are +A6Os44whp6Q-01165-00249176-00249463 engines being designed today in europe +A6Os44whp6Q-01166-00249464-00249542 that run +A6Os44whp6Q-01167-00249544-00249863 on ammonia and and for that matter +A6Os44whp6Q-01168-00249864-00250134 a dual fuel engines with heavy oil or +A6Os44whp6Q-01169-00250135-00250255 lpg +A6Os44whp6Q-01170-00250256-00250471 that they could build a ship in a few +A6Os44whp6Q-01171-00250471-00250727 years time that can run on the fossil +A6Os44whp6Q-01172-00250728-00250919 fuel for the first five years +A6Os44whp6Q-01173-00250919-00251087 when the price of ammonia gets low +A6Os44whp6Q-01174-00251088-00251255 enough they just switch across +A6Os44whp6Q-01175-00251256-00251430 without having to rebuild the ship's +A6Os44whp6Q-01176-00251431-00251694 engine so it's quite exciting +A6Os44whp6Q-01177-00251696-00252015 um and we've ammonia has similar +A6Os44whp6Q-01178-00252016-00252215 boundary issues with hydrogen as i've +A6Os44whp6Q-01179-00252216-00252319 mentioned +A6Os44whp6Q-01180-00252319-00252655 uh from differences um and and very +A6Os44whp6Q-01181-00252656-00252982 big differences in governance um in that +A6Os44whp6Q-01182-00252983-00253039 you know +A6Os44whp6Q-01183-00253040-00253375 iph is a relatively mature organization +A6Os44whp6Q-01184-00253376-00253551 for intergovernmental +A6Os44whp6Q-01185-00253552-00253727 um negotiation they've been talking +A6Os44whp6Q-01186-00253728-00253919 about hydrogen hydrogen for i think +A6Os44whp6Q-01187-00253919-00254263 about 15 years or so +A6Os44whp6Q-01188-00254264-00254487 they haven't been talking about ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01189-00254488-00254606 very much +A6Os44whp6Q-01190-00254607-00254958 and there are ammonia focused +A6Os44whp6Q-01191-00254959-00255158 organizations that have been talking +A6Os44whp6Q-01192-00255159-00255446 about ammonia for a similar period +A6Os44whp6Q-01193-00255448-00255646 in particular the ammonia energy +A6Os44whp6Q-01194-00255648-00255846 association but again +A6Os44whp6Q-01195-00255848-00256175 um also when we talk about hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01196-00256176-00256327 it's not always clear if we're talking +A6Os44whp6Q-01197-00256328-00256519 about hydrogen fuels +A6Os44whp6Q-01198-00256519-00256734 or actually talking about hydrogen so +A6Os44whp6Q-01199-00256735-00256863 the governance and +A6Os44whp6Q-01200-00256864-00257046 and the momentum is very much around +A6Os44whp6Q-01201-00257048-00257271 hydrogen a big question +A6Os44whp6Q-01202-00257271-00257582 uh is how does that relate to ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01203-00257583-00257791 and the ammonia governance and and +A6Os44whp6Q-01204-00257792-00257919 opportunities +A6Os44whp6Q-01205-00257919-00258391 um so so for hydrogen certification some +A6Os44whp6Q-01206-00258392-00258494 people say +A6Os44whp6Q-01207-00258496-00258719 we'll just certify the hydrogen and then +A6Os44whp6Q-01208-00258719-00258958 we'll tack on the ammonia part +A6Os44whp6Q-01209-00258959-00259271 and and bob's your uncle but others +A6Os44whp6Q-01210-00259271-00259582 are saying well actually we could just +A6Os44whp6Q-01211-00259583-00259767 certify the ammonia and have the whole +A6Os44whp6Q-01212-00259767-00259846 scheme i +A6Os44whp6Q-01213-00259848-00260110 i mean i think obviously hydrogen is a +A6Os44whp6Q-01214-00260111-00260358 key feedstock for ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01215-00260359-00260606 so having a hydrogen certification +A6Os44whp6Q-01216-00260607-00260823 system was very helpful for certifying +A6Os44whp6Q-01217-00260823-00260982 ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01218-00260983-00261279 so finally uh low embedded emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-01219-00261280-00261439 ammonia certification +A6Os44whp6Q-01220-00261440-00261767 uh industry uh i think the first +A6Os44whp6Q-01221-00261767-00262087 uh p power purchase agreement +A6Os44whp6Q-01222-00262088-00262358 was signed about a month ago uh for +A6Os44whp6Q-01223-00262359-00262495 green ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01224-00262496-00262895 out of saudi arabia um so they have uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01225-00262896-00263206 they have actually got a green ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01226-00263207-00263423 on the international market purchase +A6Os44whp6Q-01227-00263424-00263543 agreement +A6Os44whp6Q-01228-00263544-00263710 so there are australian companies +A6Os44whp6Q-01229-00263711-00263958 wanting to sign such agreements too +A6Os44whp6Q-01230-00263959-00264230 and they are asking up for ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01231-00264231-00264487 certification to be fast tracked as well +A6Os44whp6Q-01232-00264488-00264767 and i'm sure that came through with uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01233-00264768-00264823 with the +A6Os44whp6Q-01234-00264824-00265223 uh survey that uh rebecca referred to +A6Os44whp6Q-01235-00265224-00265510 um so how could we leverage ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01236-00265511-00265567 focused +A6Os44whp6Q-01237-00265568-00265751 forums where all the ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01238-00265752-00265951 stakeholders in industry at least and +A6Os44whp6Q-01239-00265952-00266143 some academics as well have already been +A6Os44whp6Q-01240-00266144-00266271 meeting +A6Os44whp6Q-01241-00266272-00266543 for you know the last 10 years and and +A6Os44whp6Q-01242-00266544-00266671 discussing in-depth +A6Os44whp6Q-01243-00266672-00266975 ammonia related issues um in particular +A6Os44whp6Q-01244-00266976-00267151 the ammonia energy association +A6Os44whp6Q-01245-00267152-00267239 headquarters +A6Os44whp6Q-01246-00267240-00267519 out of new york and um that has an +A6Os44whp6Q-01247-00267520-00267710 australian chapter as well as +A6Os44whp6Q-01248-00267711-00267903 you know other chapters in other +A6Os44whp6Q-01249-00267904-00268039 countries +A6Os44whp6Q-01250-00268040-00268327 so then there's um the green ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01251-00268328-00268558 consortium of japan which is basically +A6Os44whp6Q-01252-00268559-00268695 an industry-led +A6Os44whp6Q-01253-00268696-00268951 uh peak body for the japanese where +A6Os44whp6Q-01254-00268952-00269015 they're +A6Os44whp6Q-01255-00269016-00269327 talking with potential sellers and and +A6Os44whp6Q-01256-00269328-00269503 who knows maybe in the future there may +A6Os44whp6Q-01257-00269504-00269655 be new architecture +A6Os44whp6Q-01258-00269656-00269958 around ammonia that is is being uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01259-00269959-00270287 adopted by industry or governments um +A6Os44whp6Q-01260-00270288-00270534 or do we just uh integrate ammonia into +A6Os44whp6Q-01261-00270535-00270829 the existing hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01262-00270830-00270943 [Music] +A6Os44whp6Q-01263-00270944-00271247 architecture um which you know +A6Os44whp6Q-01264-00271248-00271471 i think one has to bear in mind that +A6Os44whp6Q-01265-00271472-00271647 there are companies backing +A6Os44whp6Q-01266-00271648-00271991 for instance hydrogen as a shipping fuel +A6Os44whp6Q-01267-00271992-00272230 uh and there are other companies backing +A6Os44whp6Q-01268-00272231-00272447 ammonia as a shipping fuel +A6Os44whp6Q-01269-00272448-00272743 so um what are the implications of the +A6Os44whp6Q-01270-00272744-00272887 of the political +A6Os44whp6Q-01271-00272888-00273119 sort of dynamics in a hydrogen-focused +A6Os44whp6Q-01272-00273120-00273263 body +A6Os44whp6Q-01273-00273264-00273582 if they are then requested to do +A6Os44whp6Q-01274-00273583-00273903 ammonia related work so that that +A6Os44whp6Q-01275-00273904-00274119 probably needs to be considered +A6Os44whp6Q-01276-00274120-00274551 um so the geopolitical implications of +A6Os44whp6Q-01277-00274552-00274695 australia's place from +A6Os44whp6Q-01278-00274696-00274967 supplying ammonia to uh asian markets in +A6Os44whp6Q-01279-00274968-00275095 particular +A6Os44whp6Q-01280-00275096-00275391 um a lot of the hydrogen architecture is +A6Os44whp6Q-01281-00275392-00275439 quite +A6Os44whp6Q-01282-00275440-00275839 um quite eurocentric one could say +A6Os44whp6Q-01283-00275840-00276158 imo has its headquarters in london iph +A6Os44whp6Q-01284-00276159-00276503 in uh correct me if i'm wrong i want to +A6Os44whp6Q-01285-00276504-00276591 say paris +A6Os44whp6Q-01286-00276592-00276919 but it could be brussels anyway iph +A6Os44whp6Q-01287-00276920-00277223 is also a european uh based organization +A6Os44whp6Q-01288-00277224-00277558 with global membership of course um +A6Os44whp6Q-01289-00277559-00277799 uh but obviously in the case of +A6Os44whp6Q-01290-00277800-00277879 australia +A6Os44whp6Q-01291-00277880-00278175 um we have uh quite quite a lot of +A6Os44whp6Q-01292-00278176-00278351 negotiating power in +A6Os44whp6Q-01293-00278352-00278751 in the and in the asia pacific +A6Os44whp6Q-01294-00278752-00279047 and how does that play out within those +A6Os44whp6Q-01295-00279048-00279151 bodies +A6Os44whp6Q-01296-00279152-00279399 um will be quite interesting especially +A6Os44whp6Q-01297-00279400-00279558 if for instance i think +A6Os44whp6Q-01298-00279559-00279863 singapore is not even a member of iph +A6Os44whp6Q-01299-00279864-00280167 at the moment is what i had heard um +A6Os44whp6Q-01300-00280168-00280358 so you know that's quite interesting +A6Os44whp6Q-01301-00280359-00280510 they're a key market for us +A6Os44whp6Q-01302-00280511-00280799 of course for potentially bunkering huge +A6Os44whp6Q-01303-00280800-00280951 amounts of ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01304-00280952-00281230 for international shipping in singapore +A6Os44whp6Q-01305-00281231-00281279 um +A6Os44whp6Q-01306-00281280-00281487 and industry are already discussing that +A6Os44whp6Q-01307-00281488-00281719 with each other the ammonia industry +A6Os44whp6Q-01308-00281720-00282047 between singapore and australia +A6Os44whp6Q-01309-00282048-00282271 so the boundary implications are quite +A6Os44whp6Q-01310-00282272-00282567 important as i've mentioned +A6Os44whp6Q-01311-00282568-00282751 and there are some technical questions +A6Os44whp6Q-01312-00282752-00282951 about integrated hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01313-00282952-00283271 nitrate and and ammonia plants and +A6Os44whp6Q-01314-00283272-00283591 finally obviously it really +A6Os44whp6Q-01315-00283592-00283815 um while also looking at the +A6Os44whp6Q-01316-00283816-00284054 similarities between hydrogen and nitro +A6Os44whp6Q-01317-00284055-00284143 and and +A6Os44whp6Q-01318-00284144-00284558 ammonia there are also differences +A6Os44whp6Q-01319-00284559-00284743 as i mentioned for instance in the +A6Os44whp6Q-01320-00284744-00284863 transportation +A6Os44whp6Q-01321-00284864-00285158 emissions intensity potentially of of +A6Os44whp6Q-01322-00285159-00285351 ammonia versus hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01323-00285352-00285679 so one needs to be quite well informed +A6Os44whp6Q-01324-00285680-00285799 about those differences +A6Os44whp6Q-01325-00285800-00286015 when perhaps designing a certification +A6Os44whp6Q-01326-00286016-00286143 system which is +A6Os44whp6Q-01327-00286144-00286534 uh technology neutral in its objective +A6Os44whp6Q-01328-00286535-00286775 and that's uh all from me thanks very +A6Os44whp6Q-01329-00286776-00286910 much for listening sorry for +A6Os44whp6Q-01330-00286911-00287439 um going on hello +A6Os44whp6Q-01331-00287440-00287775 good thank you penn uh now we have uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01332-00287776-00288110 our final speaker uh john soderbaum +A6Os44whp6Q-01333-00288111-00288406 uh so john uh is well known in the +A6Os44whp6Q-01334-00288407-00288623 hydrogen community uh having +A6Os44whp6Q-01335-00288624-00288958 uh worked for many years in acel allen +A6Os44whp6Q-01336-00288959-00289239 as director of uh science and technology +A6Os44whp6Q-01337-00289240-00289279 uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01338-00289280-00289430 and uh he has a long history of +A6Os44whp6Q-01339-00289431-00289687 contributing to the hydrogen discussion +A6Os44whp6Q-01340-00289688-00289975 uh back in 2003 the australian national +A6Os44whp6Q-01341-00289976-00290215 hydrogen study was a project +A6Os44whp6Q-01342-00290216-00290479 that he was involved in he did a report +A6Os44whp6Q-01343-00290480-00290606 on australia's hydrogen export +A6Os44whp6Q-01344-00290607-00290791 opportunities for arena +A6Os44whp6Q-01345-00290792-00290910 he worked on the south australian +A6Os44whp6Q-01346-00290911-00291119 government screen hydrogen study +A6Os44whp6Q-01347-00291120-00291463 and presented a an issues paper +A6Os44whp6Q-01348-00291464-00291606 on the injection of hydrogen in the +A6Os44whp6Q-01349-00291607-00291839 natural gas networks for the national +A6Os44whp6Q-01350-00291840-00292054 hydrogen strategy task force so +A6Os44whp6Q-01351-00292055-00292271 welcome john and uh very interested to +A6Os44whp6Q-01352-00292272-00292487 hear your perspective +A6Os44whp6Q-01353-00292488-00292703 thanks ken let me just see if i can +A6Os44whp6Q-01354-00292704-00292823 share my screen +A6Os44whp6Q-01355-00292824-00293204 now +A6Os44whp6Q-01356-00293205-00293503 [Music] +A6Os44whp6Q-01357-00293504-00293823 make it a +A6Os44whp6Q-01358-00293824-00294254 slideshow good morning +A6Os44whp6Q-01359-00294255-00294695 hopefully that's coming up +A6Os44whp6Q-01360-00294696-00294999 is that all good ken excellent +A6Os44whp6Q-01361-00295000-00295319 um so so thank you very much +A6Os44whp6Q-01362-00295320-00295639 uh first of all ken i should thank you +A6Os44whp6Q-01363-00295640-00295839 for giving me the opportunity to +A6Os44whp6Q-01364-00295840-00296079 participate in a forum where the +A6Os44whp6Q-01365-00296080-00296254 with the women outnumber the men well +A6Os44whp6Q-01366-00296255-00296454 done to you and and the energy change +A6Os44whp6Q-01367-00296455-00296551 institute for that +A6Os44whp6Q-01368-00296552-00296887 that's something that uh my academy is +A6Os44whp6Q-01369-00296888-00296927 very +A6Os44whp6Q-01370-00296928-00297151 strong on and it's good to see it +A6Os44whp6Q-01371-00297152-00297423 happening +A6Os44whp6Q-01372-00297424-00297687 so before i start i should make it clear +A6Os44whp6Q-01373-00297688-00297734 that +A6Os44whp6Q-01374-00297735-00298110 my presentation is based on a review of +A6Os44whp6Q-01375-00298111-00298415 publicly available information about you +A6Os44whp6Q-01376-00298416-00298599 know what industry thinks +A6Os44whp6Q-01377-00298600-00299006 about uh hydrogen certification and +A6Os44whp6Q-01378-00299007-00299063 that's +A6Os44whp6Q-01379-00299064-00299391 uh comes from that survey +A6Os44whp6Q-01380-00299392-00299823 that was mentioned earlier and obviously +A6Os44whp6Q-01381-00299824-00299991 because of that it doesn't take into +A6Os44whp6Q-01382-00299992-00300127 account +A6Os44whp6Q-01383-00300128-00300319 information that might be contained in +A6Os44whp6Q-01384-00300320-00300551 responses that weren't made public +A6Os44whp6Q-01385-00300552-00300830 so this means that my numbers might not +A6Os44whp6Q-01386-00300831-00300991 agree entirely with some of the other +A6Os44whp6Q-01387-00300992-00301047 numbers +A6Os44whp6Q-01388-00301048-00301358 um they had access to confidential +A6Os44whp6Q-01389-00301359-00301567 responses +A6Os44whp6Q-01390-00301568-00301854 so there's quite a wide variety of +A6Os44whp6Q-01391-00301855-00302127 responses to the survey and +A6Os44whp6Q-01392-00302128-00302415 a lot of consultants a lot of some users +A6Os44whp6Q-01393-00302416-00302519 of hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01394-00302520-00302847 some producers of hydrogen equipment +A6Os44whp6Q-01395-00302848-00303063 manufacturers of various kinds and +A6Os44whp6Q-01396-00303064-00303319 some industry associations were quite +A6Os44whp6Q-01397-00303320-00303463 interested in +A6Os44whp6Q-01398-00303464-00303958 giving their views +A6Os44whp6Q-01399-00303959-00304151 ken mentioned that hydrogen export +A6Os44whp6Q-01400-00304152-00304343 opportunities report that i +A6Os44whp6Q-01401-00304344-00304623 prepared some years a couple of years +A6Os44whp6Q-01402-00304624-00304775 ago +A6Os44whp6Q-01403-00304776-00305079 that identified japan and korea as +A6Os44whp6Q-01404-00305080-00305447 as two potential markets i mean since +A6Os44whp6Q-01405-00305448-00305510 then +A6Os44whp6Q-01406-00305511-00305647 other countries have expressed an +A6Os44whp6Q-01407-00305648-00305839 interest in in eur in germa +A6Os44whp6Q-01408-00305840-00306191 in sorry in australian uh hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01409-00306192-00306543 including germany uh singapore has +A6Os44whp6Q-01410-00306544-00306815 started its own pilot +A6Os44whp6Q-01411-00306816-00306999 you know developing its own hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01412-00307000-00307143 strategy in fact may have already +A6Os44whp6Q-01413-00307144-00307254 completed it by now +A6Os44whp6Q-01414-00307255-00307487 um and they were another potential +A6Os44whp6Q-01415-00307488-00307719 market that we identified +A6Os44whp6Q-01416-00307720-00308054 in that in that study +A6Os44whp6Q-01417-00308055-00308358 so it's probably important when you're +A6Os44whp6Q-01418-00308359-00308439 thinking about +A6Os44whp6Q-01419-00308440-00308734 this is to think about well why are +A6Os44whp6Q-01420-00308735-00309047 countries talking about hydrogen at all +A6Os44whp6Q-01421-00309048-00309415 um well and it's mainly because they +A6Os44whp6Q-01422-00309416-00309599 want to reduce their emissions because +A6Os44whp6Q-01423-00309600-00309695 they're trying to meet +A6Os44whp6Q-01424-00309696-00310047 various targets that have been set +A6Os44whp6Q-01425-00310048-00310375 and that's pretty much the driver for +A6Os44whp6Q-01426-00310376-00310719 for getting involved in hydrogen at all +A6Os44whp6Q-01427-00310720-00311039 so knowing what amount of of carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-01428-00311040-00311303 what amount of emissions is actually +A6Os44whp6Q-01429-00311304-00311495 embedded in the hydrogen you're buying +A6Os44whp6Q-01430-00311496-00311639 or using +A6Os44whp6Q-01431-00311640-00311839 is very important for these countries +A6Os44whp6Q-01432-00311840-00311951 and we we +A6Os44whp6Q-01433-00311952-00312191 we know that japan and korea have have +A6Os44whp6Q-01434-00312192-00312358 both signaled their intention +A6Os44whp6Q-01435-00312359-00312615 to their longer term intention to only +A6Os44whp6Q-01436-00312616-00312727 import +A6Os44whp6Q-01437-00312728-00313254 essentially carbon-free hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01438-00313255-00313543 the certification is scheme is important +A6Os44whp6Q-01439-00313544-00313615 for +A6Os44whp6Q-01440-00313616-00314127 establishing market confidence um +A6Os44whp6Q-01441-00314128-00314406 because you know it gives for example +A6Os44whp6Q-01442-00314407-00314543 investors confidence +A6Os44whp6Q-01443-00314544-00314895 to invest in production facilities +A6Os44whp6Q-01444-00314896-00315095 that are expensive to build and you know +A6Os44whp6Q-01445-00315096-00315254 they need to be confident that +A6Os44whp6Q-01446-00315255-00315406 somebody's going to buy the hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01447-00315407-00315454 when it +A6Os44whp6Q-01448-00315455-00315775 when it is made uh it also gives +A6Os44whp6Q-01449-00315776-00315975 consumers confidence that the hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01450-00315976-00316095 that they've +A6Os44whp6Q-01451-00316096-00316358 purchased has has a defined and +A6Os44whp6Q-01452-00316359-00316439 well-known +A6Os44whp6Q-01453-00316440-00316639 amount of carbon sort of attached with +A6Os44whp6Q-01454-00316640-00316823 it +A6Os44whp6Q-01455-00316824-00317287 as um as penelope pointed out this this +A6Os44whp6Q-01456-00317288-00317463 this is the same thing that happens in +A6Os44whp6Q-01457-00317464-00317743 in the case of certifying ammonia or +A6Os44whp6Q-01458-00317744-00317919 emissions associated with ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01459-00317920-00318454 production +A6Os44whp6Q-01460-00318455-00318727 if you not having a certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01461-00318728-00318799 more a +A6Os44whp6Q-01462-00318800-00319071 poorly dis designed one could actually +A6Os44whp6Q-01463-00319072-00319254 be quite bad because it would limit our +A6Os44whp6Q-01464-00319255-00319415 access to markets and that's the last +A6Os44whp6Q-01465-00319416-00319623 thing that industry would like to see +A6Os44whp6Q-01466-00319624-00319775 they want to have access to those +A6Os44whp6Q-01467-00319776-00320063 markets now the only existing hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01468-00320064-00320182 certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01469-00320183-00320447 so far is this one that's been mentioned +A6Os44whp6Q-01470-00320448-00320682 uh the eu +A6Os44whp6Q-01471-00320683-00320982 scheme it talks about green hydrogen and +A6Os44whp6Q-01472-00320983-00321206 low carbon hydrogen and it defines that +A6Os44whp6Q-01473-00321207-00321406 to be around the +A6Os44whp6Q-01474-00321407-00321695 four and a half kilos of carbon dioxide +A6Os44whp6Q-01475-00321696-00321775 equivalent +A6Os44whp6Q-01476-00321776-00322151 per kilogram of hydrogen so that's about +A6Os44whp6Q-01477-00322152-00322487 half the emissions intensity of hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01478-00322488-00322775 from steam methane reformation uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01479-00322776-00323023 without any ccs without any carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-01480-00323024-00323182 capture and storage +A6Os44whp6Q-01481-00323183-00323567 so steam methane reformation is +A6Os44whp6Q-01482-00323568-00323767 currently the most common way of making +A6Os44whp6Q-01483-00323768-00324519 hydrogen today +A6Os44whp6Q-01484-00324520-00324823 so as rebecca noted in her presentation +A6Os44whp6Q-01485-00324824-00324854 the +A6Os44whp6Q-01486-00324855-00325030 industry is very keen to get a +A6Os44whp6Q-01487-00325031-00325215 certification scheme and they want it to +A6Os44whp6Q-01488-00325216-00325279 be +A6Os44whp6Q-01489-00325280-00325663 when do we want it now basically um +A6Os44whp6Q-01490-00325664-00325927 they want it sooner rather than later +A6Os44whp6Q-01491-00325928-00326047 and you can hear +A6Os44whp6Q-01492-00326048-00326239 see here the sort of list of preferred +A6Os44whp6Q-01493-00326240-00326527 start years that i was able to identify +A6Os44whp6Q-01494-00326528-00326695 in the submissions that actually talked +A6Os44whp6Q-01495-00326696-00326903 about it and also +A6Os44whp6Q-01496-00326904-00327227 their willingness to wait for +A6Os44whp6Q-01497-00327228-00327519 a number of years beyond what their +A6Os44whp6Q-01498-00327520-00327854 preferred start year was and +A6Os44whp6Q-01499-00327855-00328158 there was a relatively low tolerance for +A6Os44whp6Q-01500-00328159-00328463 for for waiting for this um scheme to +A6Os44whp6Q-01501-00328464-00328654 come into effect +A6Os44whp6Q-01502-00328655-00328919 most people certainly wanted it in we +A6Os44whp6Q-01503-00328920-00329095 were not prepared to have any delay and +A6Os44whp6Q-01504-00329096-00329303 maybe a year at most +A6Os44whp6Q-01505-00329304-00329463 there was a long there was a strong +A6Os44whp6Q-01506-00329464-00329606 desire to to +A6Os44whp6Q-01507-00329607-00329791 essentially not miss the boat i think +A6Os44whp6Q-01508-00329792-00329958 was the was the sort of +A6Os44whp6Q-01509-00329959-00330334 way i might sum it up the speed which +A6Os44whp6Q-01510-00330335-00330591 with this is sort of happening or with +A6Os44whp6Q-01511-00330592-00330751 people would like it to happen makes me +A6Os44whp6Q-01512-00330752-00330863 think to the australian +A6Os44whp6Q-01513-00330864-00331127 back to that report the first report i +A6Os44whp6Q-01514-00331128-00331519 wrote on hydrogen which was back in 2003 +A6Os44whp6Q-01515-00331520-00331703 and that study the australian national +A6Os44whp6Q-01516-00331704-00332015 hydrogen study +A6Os44whp6Q-01517-00332016-00332158 that recommended that we should have a +A6Os44whp6Q-01518-00332159-00332319 national hydrogen strategy +A6Os44whp6Q-01519-00332320-00332575 so it took 16 years for that +A6Os44whp6Q-01520-00332576-00332734 recommendation to actually be +A6Os44whp6Q-01521-00332735-00332951 implemented +A6Os44whp6Q-01522-00332952-00333182 i think i suspect that the certification +A6Os44whp6Q-01523-00333183-00333271 scheme will +A6Os44whp6Q-01524-00333272-00333503 come about much faster than that but +A6Os44whp6Q-01525-00333504-00333687 patience is definitely a virtue in this +A6Os44whp6Q-01526-00333688-00334167 business +A6Os44whp6Q-01527-00334168-00334406 so what sort of certification scheme did +A6Os44whp6Q-01528-00334407-00334519 industry want +A6Os44whp6Q-01529-00334520-00334854 um so only 15 +A6Os44whp6Q-01530-00334855-00335206 uh stakeholders identified domestic +A6Os44whp6Q-01531-00335207-00335503 certification scheme as a priority about +A6Os44whp6Q-01532-00335504-00335630 a third +A6Os44whp6Q-01533-00335631-00335806 were more interested in having an +A6Os44whp6Q-01534-00335807-00335999 international scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01535-00336000-00336319 and about half thought that having both +A6Os44whp6Q-01536-00336320-00336510 was important +A6Os44whp6Q-01537-00336511-00336734 so the support for domestic scheme was +A6Os44whp6Q-01538-00336735-00336910 mainly from businesses +A6Os44whp6Q-01539-00336911-00337206 businesses who saw sales in australia as +A6Os44whp6Q-01540-00337207-00337367 their main opportunity and that may be +A6Os44whp6Q-01541-00337368-00337454 sales of +A6Os44whp6Q-01542-00337455-00337615 not necessarily hydrogen but equipment +A6Os44whp6Q-01543-00337616-00338103 for using it or producing it or whatever +A6Os44whp6Q-01544-00338104-00338391 i should add those saying that two +A6Os44whp6Q-01545-00338392-00338599 schemes were equally important +A6Os44whp6Q-01546-00338600-00338847 almost unanimously thought that a single +A6Os44whp6Q-01547-00338848-00339087 scheme applying both internationally and +A6Os44whp6Q-01548-00339088-00339327 domestically was the best approach to +A6Os44whp6Q-01549-00339328-00339543 have +A6Os44whp6Q-01550-00339544-00339791 although some noted that it might +A6Os44whp6Q-01551-00339792-00339943 actually be easier to start with the +A6Os44whp6Q-01552-00339944-00340095 domestic scheme where you don't have to +A6Os44whp6Q-01553-00340096-00340278 worry about too much about what +A6Os44whp6Q-01554-00340279-00340478 other international partners are saying +A6Os44whp6Q-01555-00340479-00340695 and then gradually transition +A6Os44whp6Q-01556-00340696-00340999 or incorporate the the broader +A6Os44whp6Q-01557-00341000-00341110 international scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01558-00341111-00341663 into that scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01559-00341664-00341999 i must decide +A6Os44whp6Q-01560-00342000-00342287 so what are the most important features +A6Os44whp6Q-01561-00342288-00342343 that +A6Os44whp6Q-01562-00342344-00342663 that uh these +A6Os44whp6Q-01563-00342664-00342919 respondents or stakeholders identified +A6Os44whp6Q-01564-00342920-00343047 as being as +A6Os44whp6Q-01565-00343048-00343191 being useful to include in a +A6Os44whp6Q-01566-00343192-00343463 certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01567-00343464-00343678 so each each stakeholder was asked to +A6Os44whp6Q-01568-00343679-00343823 identify three +A6Os44whp6Q-01569-00343824-00344127 three different uh items +A6Os44whp6Q-01570-00344128-00344295 doing that work they felt should be +A6Os44whp6Q-01571-00344296-00344582 included and this slide shows that some +A6Os44whp6Q-01572-00344583-00344782 top three ranked features +A6Os44whp6Q-01573-00344783-00344999 listed by the respondents by the +A6Os44whp6Q-01574-00345000-00345158 priority +A6Os44whp6Q-01575-00345159-00345519 order so in other words um +A6Os44whp6Q-01576-00345520-00345895 respondents who identify +A6Os44whp6Q-01577-00345896-00346134 items as a first priority they thought +A6Os44whp6Q-01578-00346135-00346303 that accurately reflecting the carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-01579-00346304-00346447 content was the most +A6Os44whp6Q-01580-00346448-00346647 appropriate thing to include in a +A6Os44whp6Q-01581-00346648-00346991 circuit certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01582-00346992-00347303 it was just a question of what order um +A6Os44whp6Q-01583-00347304-00347647 respondents uh referred to them the +A6Os44whp6Q-01584-00347648-00347895 various speeches in because sometimes +A6Os44whp6Q-01585-00347896-00348063 the the um +A6Os44whp6Q-01586-00348064-00348334 uh transparency was was second and +A6Os44whp6Q-01587-00348335-00348703 sometimes transparency was first depends +A6Os44whp6Q-01588-00348704-00349087 um transparency in fact as mentioned +A6Os44whp6Q-01589-00349088-00349319 by rebecca is something that's that's +A6Os44whp6Q-01590-00349320-00349447 features strongly +A6Os44whp6Q-01591-00349448-00349703 among the priorities technology +A6Os44whp6Q-01592-00349704-00349839 neutrality +A6Os44whp6Q-01593-00349840-00350158 uh as as mentioned by emma was +A6Os44whp6Q-01594-00350159-00350454 was referred to as a positive feature by +A6Os44whp6Q-01595-00350455-00350623 about 10 percent of the +A6Os44whp6Q-01596-00350624-00350967 responses that i read +A6Os44whp6Q-01597-00350968-00351247 so this slide uh shows the top four +A6Os44whp6Q-01598-00351248-00351343 features that +A6Os44whp6Q-01599-00351344-00351599 stakeholders nominated across all those +A6Os44whp6Q-01600-00351600-00351734 different three different levels of +A6Os44whp6Q-01601-00351735-00351991 priority +A6Os44whp6Q-01602-00351992-00352206 the top feature there was transparency +A6Os44whp6Q-01603-00352207-00352303 um +A6Os44whp6Q-01604-00352304-00352551 stakeholders really wanted to know +A6Os44whp6Q-01605-00352552-00352751 precisely how the certification +A6Os44whp6Q-01606-00352752-00353103 scheme worked next what next +A6Os44whp6Q-01607-00353104-00353447 uh most commonly mentioned +A6Os44whp6Q-01608-00353448-00353687 feature was car what i call carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-01609-00353688-00353799 content +A6Os44whp6Q-01610-00353800-00354167 and it was just my nomenclature for this +A6Os44whp6Q-01611-00354168-00354358 particular design which really boiled +A6Os44whp6Q-01612-00354359-00354510 down to +A6Os44whp6Q-01613-00354511-00354791 industry wanting to have confidence that +A6Os44whp6Q-01614-00354792-00354919 the scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01615-00354920-00355143 would accurately represent the amount of +A6Os44whp6Q-01616-00355144-00355334 emissions associated with the hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01617-00355335-00355582 they were buying +A6Os44whp6Q-01618-00355583-00356039 and in fact several stakeholders +A6Os44whp6Q-01619-00356040-00356375 also mentioned the importance of at some +A6Os44whp6Q-01620-00356376-00356534 point including +A6Os44whp6Q-01621-00356535-00356782 uh information about the source of water +A6Os44whp6Q-01622-00356783-00357030 that was being used too +A6Os44whp6Q-01623-00357031-00357310 ease of operation or simplicity as +A6Os44whp6Q-01624-00357311-00357463 mentioned by rebecca +A6Os44whp6Q-01625-00357464-00357782 uh was was next followed by +A6Os44whp6Q-01626-00357783-00358054 compatibility with other schemes +A6Os44whp6Q-01627-00358055-00358351 in the context of compatibility the +A6Os44whp6Q-01628-00358352-00358482 respondents +A6Os44whp6Q-01629-00358483-00358791 um were there +A6Os44whp6Q-01630-00358792-00358951 worried about making sure that the +A6Os44whp6Q-01631-00358952-00359071 scheme whatever scheme we had in +A6Os44whp6Q-01632-00359072-00359215 australia was a +A6Os44whp6Q-01633-00359216-00359447 consistent across jurisdictions within +A6Os44whp6Q-01634-00359448-00359551 australia +A6Os44whp6Q-01635-00359552-00359895 and also between australia +A6Os44whp6Q-01636-00359896-00360247 and other countries overseas so um +A6Os44whp6Q-01637-00360248-00360519 they didn't want to see uh schemes where +A6Os44whp6Q-01638-00360520-00360687 jurisdictions differed in their approach +A6Os44whp6Q-01639-00360688-00360758 which i don't +A6Os44whp6Q-01640-00360759-00360903 think we're heading down our path but +A6Os44whp6Q-01641-00360904-00361095 that was just +A6Os44whp6Q-01642-00361096-00361327 an interesting perspective or an +A6Os44whp6Q-01643-00361328-00361687 important perspective +A6Os44whp6Q-01644-00361688-00361927 they were also um stakeholders were also +A6Os44whp6Q-01645-00361928-00362054 asked what they thought what is the +A6Os44whp6Q-01646-00362055-00362247 important thing to avoid in a +A6Os44whp6Q-01647-00362248-00362582 certification scheme um +A6Os44whp6Q-01648-00362583-00362967 so the response are pretty much a +A6Os44whp6Q-01649-00362968-00363327 mirror or image of the features that +A6Os44whp6Q-01650-00363328-00363447 they wanted to include +A6Os44whp6Q-01651-00363448-00363695 so things like complexity or +A6Os44whp6Q-01652-00363696-00363943 inconsistency with other schemes +A6Os44whp6Q-01653-00363944-00364199 were mentioned among the sort of most +A6Os44whp6Q-01654-00364200-00364358 most common features that should be +A6Os44whp6Q-01655-00364359-00364519 avoided +A6Os44whp6Q-01656-00364520-00364751 um rebecca's talked about governance +A6Os44whp6Q-01657-00364752-00364830 models +A6Os44whp6Q-01658-00364831-00365167 um and whether schemes should be +A6Os44whp6Q-01659-00365168-00365423 government-led or industry-led +A6Os44whp6Q-01660-00365424-00365599 there were a few respondents who +A6Os44whp6Q-01661-00365600-00365839 mentioned the governance not many but a +A6Os44whp6Q-01662-00365840-00365878 few +A6Os44whp6Q-01663-00365879-00366143 and but there it was clear that there +A6Os44whp6Q-01664-00366144-00366358 were concerns around +A6Os44whp6Q-01665-00366359-00366719 um at least in terms of the the +A6Os44whp6Q-01666-00366720-00366903 the views that were expressed that i +A6Os44whp6Q-01667-00366904-00367047 read of not letting +A6Os44whp6Q-01668-00367048-00367415 industry self-regulate +A6Os44whp6Q-01669-00367416-00367630 ensuring that participation was +A6Os44whp6Q-01670-00367631-00367871 mandatory +A6Os44whp6Q-01671-00367872-00368247 establishing an independent body to +A6Os44whp6Q-01672-00368248-00368599 oversee the scheme and administer it +A6Os44whp6Q-01673-00368600-00368919 and you know one one uh stakeholder said +A6Os44whp6Q-01674-00368920-00368975 it should be +A6Os44whp6Q-01675-00368976-00369191 uh the scheme should have teeth so if +A6Os44whp6Q-01676-00369192-00369391 you're not um +A6Os44whp6Q-01677-00369392-00369663 uh following the scheme or not adhering +A6Os44whp6Q-01678-00369664-00369806 to the requirements then +A6Os44whp6Q-01679-00369807-00370006 there should be penalties associated +A6Os44whp6Q-01680-00370007-00370423 with them +A6Os44whp6Q-01681-00370424-00370615 so what are some of the uh issues or +A6Os44whp6Q-01682-00370616-00370734 challenges that +A6Os44whp6Q-01683-00370735-00370982 um that i think might be most important +A6Os44whp6Q-01684-00370983-00371127 and this is just sort of +A6Os44whp6Q-01685-00371128-00371399 how i what i've gleaned from the +A6Os44whp6Q-01686-00371400-00371615 relatively limited reading i've done +A6Os44whp6Q-01687-00371616-00372006 on this topic so one of my previous +A6Os44whp6Q-01688-00372007-00372095 slides talk +A6Os44whp6Q-01689-00372096-00372295 show showed that accurately accounting +A6Os44whp6Q-01690-00372296-00372671 for carbon content of hydrogen was a +A6Os44whp6Q-01691-00372672-00373006 priority amongst stakeholders +A6Os44whp6Q-01692-00373007-00373143 you know and the question in this should +A6Os44whp6Q-01693-00373144-00373367 we be talking about different colors of +A6Os44whp6Q-01694-00373368-00373558 hydrogen blue green purple +A6Os44whp6Q-01695-00373559-00373863 you know i've heard lots of colors uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01696-00373864-00374158 or should we just be uh talking about uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01697-00374159-00374271 kilograms of +A6Os44whp6Q-01698-00374272-00374839 of uh co2 per kilogram of hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01699-00374840-00375063 the the challenge of boundaries i'm i +A6Os44whp6Q-01700-00375064-00375247 didn't have a boundary slide i could +A6Os44whp6Q-01701-00375248-00375406 have put a boundary slide in yet again +A6Os44whp6Q-01702-00375407-00375495 but i thought +A6Os44whp6Q-01703-00375496-00375647 there's enough coverage of boundaries +A6Os44whp6Q-01704-00375648-00375806 but yeah that's +A6Os44whp6Q-01705-00375807-00376095 that's a tricky one where do you set it +A6Os44whp6Q-01706-00376096-00376167 how is it +A6Os44whp6Q-01707-00376168-00376334 how important it is to be compatible +A6Os44whp6Q-01708-00376335-00376575 with the eu scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01709-00376576-00376878 should we perhaps just focus on what um +A6Os44whp6Q-01710-00376879-00377247 uh most likely markets +A6Os44whp6Q-01711-00377248-00377439 want in other words countries in asia +A6Os44whp6Q-01712-00377440-00377567 like uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01713-00377568-00377782 japan and korea what do they see is +A6Os44whp6Q-01714-00377783-00377943 important in the scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01715-00377944-00378263 i mean after all they are the customers +A6Os44whp6Q-01716-00378264-00378647 um and the customer is always right +A6Os44whp6Q-01717-00378648-00379039 so which should come first a domestic +A6Os44whp6Q-01718-00379040-00379343 or international scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01719-00379344-00379623 will i sort of think well what would +A6Os44whp6Q-01720-00379624-00379758 what would be the scheme what would be +A6Os44whp6Q-01721-00379759-00379999 the nature of a scheme that was +A6Os44whp6Q-01722-00380000-00380263 that most helped an australian hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01723-00380264-00380327 industry +A6Os44whp6Q-01724-00380328-00380695 to grow that is after all the objective +A6Os44whp6Q-01725-00380696-00380882 to get a vibrant and successful +A6Os44whp6Q-01726-00380883-00381134 innovative hydrogen industry domestic +A6Os44whp6Q-01727-00381135-00381302 hydrogen industry +A6Os44whp6Q-01728-00381303-00381654 um how do we best do that how does a +A6Os44whp6Q-01729-00381655-00381815 scheme what sort of scheme best +A6Os44whp6Q-01730-00381816-00382071 encourages that to happen +A6Os44whp6Q-01731-00382072-00382310 the fourth challenge is perhaps whether +A6Os44whp6Q-01732-00382311-00382502 um +A6Os44whp6Q-01733-00382503-00382775 how compatible this this idea of having +A6Os44whp6Q-01734-00382776-00382847 a scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-01735-00382848-00383167 that that happens next year +A6Os44whp6Q-01736-00383168-00383454 or within the next two years perhaps is +A6Os44whp6Q-01737-00383455-00383567 that +A6Os44whp6Q-01738-00383568-00383767 give us enough time to make sure that it +A6Os44whp6Q-01739-00383768-00383999 is well designed +A6Os44whp6Q-01740-00384000-00384151 i don't have any answers to these +A6Os44whp6Q-01741-00384152-00384334 questions um but they're interesting +A6Os44whp6Q-01742-00384335-00384382 things +A6Os44whp6Q-01743-00384383-00384727 things to think about anyway i thank you +A6Os44whp6Q-01744-00384728-00384910 very much for your +A6Os44whp6Q-01745-00384911-00385230 attention uh and thanks again ken +A6Os44whp6Q-01746-00385231-00385502 and others for the opportunity to +A6Os44whp6Q-01747-00385503-00385687 participate in this +A6Os44whp6Q-01748-00385688-00386151 forum today +A6Os44whp6Q-01749-00386152-00386358 thank you very much john and thank you +A6Os44whp6Q-01750-00386359-00386534 to all the panelists so we now have an +A6Os44whp6Q-01751-00386535-00386702 opportunity to move into +A6Os44whp6Q-01752-00386703-00386854 a bit of a discussion amongst the panel +A6Os44whp6Q-01753-00386855-00387054 members let me just remind you +A6Os44whp6Q-01754-00387055-00387478 uh that you can ask questions in the q a +A6Os44whp6Q-01755-00387479-00387767 panel at the bottom of your screen we'd +A6Os44whp6Q-01756-00387768-00387887 rather you didn't use the chat because +A6Os44whp6Q-01757-00387888-00388015 we've got to follow two things then but +A6Os44whp6Q-01758-00388016-00388151 some of you've already used the chat so +A6Os44whp6Q-01759-00388152-00388278 we might look at that too but +A6Os44whp6Q-01760-00388279-00388615 let's go with the q a panel um they're +A6Os44whp6Q-01761-00388616-00388951 uh media present uh so these uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01762-00388952-00389239 discussions may be reported so just be +A6Os44whp6Q-01763-00389240-00389430 aware of that um +A6Os44whp6Q-01764-00389431-00389663 and uh we'll try and get through as many +A6Os44whp6Q-01765-00389664-00389830 questions as we can within the time +A6Os44whp6Q-01766-00389831-00389878 limit +A6Os44whp6Q-01767-00389879-00390030 but we could run over a little bit so +A6Os44whp6Q-01768-00390031-00390206 let's see how we go so +A6Os44whp6Q-01769-00390207-00390399 i'd like to kick off the discussion uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01770-00390400-00390543 by uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01771-00390544-00390919 asking a question of the panelists so uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01772-00390920-00391167 we have the opportunity for hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01773-00391168-00391254 producers +A6Os44whp6Q-01774-00391255-00391543 uh who could be completely stand alone +A6Os44whp6Q-01775-00391544-00391727 they might +A6Os44whp6Q-01776-00391728-00391958 have a solar on wind farm and battery +A6Os44whp6Q-01777-00391959-00392071 combination +A6Os44whp6Q-01778-00392072-00392391 uh make hydrogen directly and +A6Os44whp6Q-01779-00392392-00392678 sell it straight into the export market +A6Os44whp6Q-01780-00392679-00392727 so +A6Os44whp6Q-01781-00392728-00392878 that's one mode of operation another +A6Os44whp6Q-01782-00392879-00393030 mode might be +A6Os44whp6Q-01783-00393031-00393287 there'll be hydrogen plants sitting on +A6Os44whp6Q-01784-00393288-00393399 the grid +A6Os44whp6Q-01785-00393400-00393527 they might have power purchase +A6Os44whp6Q-01786-00393528-00393743 agreements with renewable suppliers or +A6Os44whp6Q-01787-00393744-00393854 maybe not +A6Os44whp6Q-01788-00393855-00394143 uh they might just use um you know spilt +A6Os44whp6Q-01789-00394144-00394254 uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01790-00394255-00394471 solar and wind at opportune times maybe +A6Os44whp6Q-01791-00394472-00394606 purchase a merchant arrangement who +A6Os44whp6Q-01792-00394607-00394695 knows +A6Os44whp6Q-01793-00394696-00394999 but they're connected to the grid and so +A6Os44whp6Q-01794-00395000-00395239 there is a complication with that given +A6Os44whp6Q-01795-00395240-00395423 that it's very hard to attribute +A6Os44whp6Q-01796-00395424-00395582 uh where the electricity has come from +A6Os44whp6Q-01797-00395583-00395727 has it come from renewals has it come +A6Os44whp6Q-01798-00395728-00395799 from +A6Os44whp6Q-01799-00395800-00396006 fossil fuels how do you account for that +A6Os44whp6Q-01800-00396007-00396167 uh even with a power purchase agreement +A6Os44whp6Q-01801-00396168-00396310 you could imagine that suddenly a +A6Os44whp6Q-01802-00396311-00396495 hydrogen plant turns on +A6Os44whp6Q-01803-00396496-00396775 uh and it doesn't know um you know +A6Os44whp6Q-01804-00396776-00396854 whether +A6Os44whp6Q-01805-00396855-00397127 uh that's at a time uh when uh you know +A6Os44whp6Q-01806-00397128-00397230 you need to +A6Os44whp6Q-01807-00397231-00397534 uh firm up the supply using a gas plant +A6Os44whp6Q-01808-00397535-00397815 uh kicking in or maybe even a +A6Os44whp6Q-01809-00397816-00398047 coal plant ramping up this sort of uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01810-00398048-00398223 level of uncertainty about the carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-01811-00398224-00398430 content of the electricity being +A6Os44whp6Q-01812-00398431-00398702 either purchased or displaced so that's +A6Os44whp6Q-01813-00398703-00398854 very complicated we have to work out a +A6Os44whp6Q-01814-00398855-00399071 way of dealing with that +A6Os44whp6Q-01815-00399072-00399287 and uh it's not obvious that we +A6Os44whp6Q-01816-00399288-00399487 necessarily even have existing schemes +A6Os44whp6Q-01817-00399488-00399567 that will do +A6Os44whp6Q-01818-00399568-00399871 deal with that like large uh scale +A6Os44whp6Q-01819-00399872-00400087 generation certificates and the like +A6Os44whp6Q-01820-00400088-00400447 um so should the exporters of hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01821-00400448-00400519 who are +A6Os44whp6Q-01822-00400520-00400647 alone and don't have to worry about +A6Os44whp6Q-01823-00400648-00400967 these things be hamstrung by our +A6Os44whp6Q-01824-00400968-00401119 slowness in getting a hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01825-00401120-00401295 certification scheme off the ground or +A6Os44whp6Q-01826-00401296-00401454 should we just deal with these +A6Os44whp6Q-01827-00401455-00401663 two opportunities for generating +A6Os44whp6Q-01828-00401664-00401910 hydrogen for exports +A6Os44whp6Q-01829-00401911-00402158 and separately and allow them to uh run +A6Os44whp6Q-01830-00402159-00402271 as soon as we +A6Os44whp6Q-01831-00402272-00402415 uh have a scheme in place so i'd be +A6Os44whp6Q-01832-00402416-00402534 interested to hear the panel's view on +A6Os44whp6Q-01833-00402535-00403191 that +A6Os44whp6Q-01834-00403192-00403399 i can have a go although i'm hoping +A6Os44whp6Q-01835-00403400-00403591 others will will jump in as well +A6Os44whp6Q-01836-00403592-00403830 i mean i think i think there's two +A6Os44whp6Q-01837-00403831-00403951 points i'd like to make one +A6Os44whp6Q-01838-00403952-00404263 is a a big standalone producer +A6Os44whp6Q-01839-00404264-00404454 and i'm thinking of the asian renewable +A6Os44whp6Q-01840-00404455-00404630 energy hub for example +A6Os44whp6Q-01841-00404631-00404847 um that are there exactly as you +A6Os44whp6Q-01842-00404848-00404951 describe +A6Os44whp6Q-01843-00404952-00405223 um planning to export directly they +A6Os44whp6Q-01844-00405224-00405430 should be able to arrange +A6Os44whp6Q-01845-00405431-00405654 um their own sort of access to +A6Os44whp6Q-01846-00405655-00405815 international markets because of their +A6Os44whp6Q-01847-00405816-00405943 sheer size +A6Os44whp6Q-01848-00405944-00406095 and the fact that they're clearly off +A6Os44whp6Q-01849-00406096-00406254 grid clearly +A6Os44whp6Q-01850-00406255-00406575 renewable without needing to wait for a +A6Os44whp6Q-01851-00406576-00406758 certification scheme i'm not saying that +A6Os44whp6Q-01852-00406759-00406910 a certification scheme wouldn't help +A6Os44whp6Q-01853-00406911-00407071 them and make their life easier +A6Os44whp6Q-01854-00407072-00407310 but i would i would think those guys are +A6Os44whp6Q-01855-00407311-00407399 going to be +A6Os44whp6Q-01856-00407400-00407606 sort of the least troubled by the lack +A6Os44whp6Q-01857-00407607-00407806 of a certification scheme i think the +A6Os44whp6Q-01858-00407807-00407991 ones who are on grid +A6Os44whp6Q-01859-00407992-00408215 um and buying their certificates but as +A6Os44whp6Q-01860-00408216-00408343 you say people have +A6Os44whp6Q-01861-00408344-00408591 doubts about um whether it's really +A6Os44whp6Q-01862-00408592-00408727 truly renewable energy +A6Os44whp6Q-01863-00408728-00408878 those are the ones who are really going +A6Os44whp6Q-01864-00408879-00409071 to need a certificate scheme before +A6Os44whp6Q-01865-00409072-00409223 international buyers +A6Os44whp6Q-01866-00409224-00409391 i think will feel confident about how +A6Os44whp6Q-01867-00409392-00409614 much is embedded but that's just my two +A6Os44whp6Q-01868-00409615-00409887 cents worth +A6Os44whp6Q-01869-00409888-00410230 i i guess i look at the sort of time +A6Os44whp6Q-01870-00410231-00410407 frames of these things and if +A6Os44whp6Q-01871-00410408-00410647 if if as rebecca says we're going to +A6Os44whp6Q-01872-00410647-00410734 have a +A6Os44whp6Q-01873-00410735-00411110 certification scheme in one or two years +A6Os44whp6Q-01874-00411112-00411566 um will there be any large-scale export +A6Os44whp6Q-01875-00411567-00411878 you know facilities on the grid +A6Os44whp6Q-01876-00411879-00412078 within that time probably not so i don't +A6Os44whp6Q-01877-00412079-00412255 think they're going to be hamstrung by +A6Os44whp6Q-01878-00412256-00412295 it +A6Os44whp6Q-01879-00412296-00412518 but it will be important to see for them +A6Os44whp6Q-01880-00412519-00412759 to be able to +A6Os44whp6Q-01881-00412760-00412976 demonstrate that their +A6Os44whp6Q-01882-00412977-00413095 [Music] +A6Os44whp6Q-01883-00413096-00413326 their hydrogen is you know has a +A6Os44whp6Q-01884-00413327-00413551 particular carbon content +A6Os44whp6Q-01885-00413552-00413887 um the i mean i guess +A6Os44whp6Q-01886-00413888-00414191 at the moment uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01887-00414192-00414430 the international community is is +A6Os44whp6Q-01888-00414431-00414591 essentially trying to establish the +A6Os44whp6Q-01889-00414592-00414759 viability of +A6Os44whp6Q-01890-00414760-00415014 of a of a hydrogen supply chain i mean +A6Os44whp6Q-01891-00415015-00415182 this is where we're seeing +A6Os44whp6Q-01892-00415183-00415534 for example the japanese building +A6Os44whp6Q-01893-00415535-00415847 hydrogen supply facilities +A6Os44whp6Q-01894-00415847-00416030 in countries around the world that are +A6Os44whp6Q-01895-00416031-00416239 looking at different mechanisms for +A6Os44whp6Q-01896-00416239-00416495 transporting that hydrogen to +A6Os44whp6Q-01897-00416496-00416687 for a for producing the hydrogen and b +A6Os44whp6Q-01898-00416688-00416839 for transporting it to +A6Os44whp6Q-01899-00416839-00417191 to japan um it's they're all small scale +A6Os44whp6Q-01900-00417192-00417439 they're all kind of demonstration +A6Os44whp6Q-01901-00417439-00417807 type of plants they they're only there +A6Os44whp6Q-01902-00417808-00417863 really +A6Os44whp6Q-01903-00417864-00418159 to show that it's feasible and possible +A6Os44whp6Q-01904-00418160-00418230 and +A6Os44whp6Q-01905-00418231-00418534 potentially economically viable to to do +A6Os44whp6Q-01906-00418535-00418622 that +A6Os44whp6Q-01907-00418623-00418951 once once they've demonstrated that the +A6Os44whp6Q-01908-00418952-00419278 uh the um +A6Os44whp6Q-01909-00419279-00419495 uh then it will be you know a question +A6Os44whp6Q-01910-00419496-00419614 of scaling up and +A6Os44whp6Q-01911-00419615-00420014 and becoming a a larger exporter +A6Os44whp6Q-01912-00420015-00420303 um it's interest it's instructive to see +A6Os44whp6Q-01913-00420304-00420407 that +A6Os44whp6Q-01914-00420408-00420631 uh the japanese and the koreans both +A6Os44whp6Q-01915-00420632-00420814 have sort of relatively long +A6Os44whp6Q-01916-00420815-00421022 time frames for when they want to see +A6Os44whp6Q-01917-00421023-00421118 zero +A6Os44whp6Q-01918-00421119-00421343 carbon hydrogen coming in through there +A6Os44whp6Q-01919-00421343-00421479 as an import +A6Os44whp6Q-01920-00421480-00421759 um i think they recognize that you know +A6Os44whp6Q-01921-00421760-00421918 it will take time i mean +A6Os44whp6Q-01922-00421919-00422110 that doesn't mean to say that it might +A6Os44whp6Q-01923-00422112-00422327 not be a commercial advantage for +A6Os44whp6Q-01924-00422328-00422518 australia to be able to say well we are +A6Os44whp6Q-01925-00422519-00422695 zero carbon already +A6Os44whp6Q-01926-00422696-00423422 so we should have a premium for for aha +A6Os44whp6Q-01927-00423423-00423735 i might just jump in to sort of +A6Os44whp6Q-01928-00423735-00424007 look at things through an ammonia lens +A6Os44whp6Q-01929-00424008-00424159 noting that the question +A6Os44whp6Q-01930-00424160-00424487 said hydrogen can +A6Os44whp6Q-01931-00424488-00424847 but i assume you were also of course +A6Os44whp6Q-01932-00424847-00425310 meant hydrogen fuels +A6Os44whp6Q-01933-00425312-00425695 i think the +A6Os44whp6Q-01934-00425696-00425983 you look at the certification system +A6Os44whp6Q-01935-00425984-00426127 that has been designed +A6Os44whp6Q-01936-00426128-00426535 by the european uh certified +A6Os44whp6Q-01937-00426535-00426863 and and this is again where um +A6Os44whp6Q-01938-00426864-00427151 i i think about geography as being such +A6Os44whp6Q-01939-00427152-00427175 an +A6Os44whp6Q-01940-00427176-00427479 important economic determinant +A6Os44whp6Q-01941-00427480-00427799 the european countries are relatively +A6Os44whp6Q-01942-00427800-00428007 close to each other +A6Os44whp6Q-01943-00428008-00428207 the hydrogen that's being produced in +A6Os44whp6Q-01944-00428208-00428318 europe +A6Os44whp6Q-01945-00428319-00428607 is uh able to be transported by gas +A6Os44whp6Q-01946-00428608-00428759 pipelines +A6Os44whp6Q-01947-00428760-00429175 um the incentives to convert +A6Os44whp6Q-01948-00429176-00429399 uh their hydrogen from norway for +A6Os44whp6Q-01949-00429400-00429607 instance into ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01950-00429608-00429855 so it can be transported you know the +A6Os44whp6Q-01951-00429856-00430063 sorts of distances we have to transport +A6Os44whp6Q-01952-00430064-00430270 to reach our markets +A6Os44whp6Q-01953-00430271-00430599 i'm not sure uh the incentives +A6Os44whp6Q-01954-00430600-00430943 uh for for certifying ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01955-00430943-00431270 are as strong in europe as they are for +A6Os44whp6Q-01956-00431271-00431718 certifying hydrogen so i guess +A6Os44whp6Q-01957-00431719-00432095 that leads me to wonder +A6Os44whp6Q-01958-00432096-00432503 when it comes to certifying ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01959-00432504-00432870 and and large scale export of ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01960-00432871-00433087 well i doubt um i doubt europe will be +A6Os44whp6Q-01961-00433088-00433287 exporting ammonia to the world +A6Os44whp6Q-01962-00433288-00433631 there's one thing um and and +A6Os44whp6Q-01963-00433632-00433879 neither well whether or not their big +A6Os44whp6Q-01964-00433880-00433966 purchases +A6Os44whp6Q-01965-00433967-00434359 of ammonia for energy is yet to be seen +A6Os44whp6Q-01966-00434360-00434743 so again the dynamics of hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01967-00434743-00435118 focused discussions +A6Os44whp6Q-01968-00435119-00435439 and and the level of urgency perhaps the +A6Os44whp6Q-01969-00435439-00435631 certification of a +A6Os44whp6Q-01970-00435632-00435918 as john mentioned a supply chain for +A6Os44whp6Q-01971-00435919-00435991 hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01972-00435992-00436303 internationally which is perhaps uh +A6Os44whp6Q-01973-00436304-00436566 nascent but you know moving fast and +A6Os44whp6Q-01974-00436567-00436807 it's great to see hydrogen supply chain +A6Os44whp6Q-01975-00436808-00437159 projects like the one uh hsc +A6Os44whp6Q-01976-00437160-00437414 making progress on that front but the +A6Os44whp6Q-01977-00437415-00437591 ammonia supply chain +A6Os44whp6Q-01978-00437592-00437903 has been around for a hundred years or +A6Os44whp6Q-01979-00437904-00438039 longer +A6Os44whp6Q-01980-00438039-00438327 um and that is the supply chain that is +A6Os44whp6Q-01981-00438328-00438455 already quite mature +A6Os44whp6Q-01982-00438456-00438710 the issue is we're no longer putting +A6Os44whp6Q-01983-00438712-00438799 ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01984-00438800-00439063 into an explosive manufacturing plant or +A6Os44whp6Q-01985-00439064-00439151 or into +A6Os44whp6Q-01986-00439152-00439375 fertilizers we're putting it into a new +A6Os44whp6Q-01987-00439376-00439503 purpose +A6Os44whp6Q-01988-00439504-00439847 so again um how soon +A6Os44whp6Q-01989-00439847-00440110 that large-scale ammonia export industry +A6Os44whp6Q-01990-00440112-00440270 might materialize for +A6Os44whp6Q-01991-00440271-00440447 australian producers like the asian +A6Os44whp6Q-01992-00440447-00440655 renewable energy hub and others +A6Os44whp6Q-01993-00440656-00440799 i'm not sure they're on the same +A6Os44whp6Q-01994-00440800-00440975 timeline as +A6Os44whp6Q-01995-00440976-00441318 as supply chains for hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-01996-00441319-00441559 so again differential analysis of +A6Os44whp6Q-01997-00441560-00441718 certification needs is +A6Os44whp6Q-01998-00441719-00442366 is really needed i think for ammonia +A6Os44whp6Q-01999-00442367-00442670 okay everybody had a chance rebecca +A6Os44whp6Q-02000-00442671-00442807 would you like to say something +A6Os44whp6Q-02001-00442808-00443087 uh yeah sure i'll just add to that um +A6Os44whp6Q-02002-00443088-00443270 sort of slightly and i kind of agree +A6Os44whp6Q-02003-00443271-00443391 with um +A6Os44whp6Q-02004-00443392-00443695 everything that emma and john said um as +A6Os44whp6Q-02005-00443696-00443735 well +A6Os44whp6Q-02006-00443735-00443975 but i mean i think the the approach +A6Os44whp6Q-02007-00443976-00444087 should be on +A6Os44whp6Q-02008-00444088-00444351 we should try and certify all pathways i +A6Os44whp6Q-02009-00444352-00444535 think that should be the aim +A6Os44whp6Q-02010-00444535-00444743 at kind of and do them all fairly +A6Os44whp6Q-02011-00444743-00445110 quickly i guess +A6Os44whp6Q-02012-00445112-00445510 but um i mean the method to apportion +A6Os44whp6Q-02013-00445512-00445791 um or to work out the the fossil fuel +A6Os44whp6Q-02014-00445792-00445966 component or the renewable component of +A6Os44whp6Q-02015-00445967-00446143 grid electricity it is a bit of a tricky +A6Os44whp6Q-02016-00446143-00446318 one but we're not starting entirely from +A6Os44whp6Q-02017-00446319-00446479 scratch and there are methods +A6Os44whp6Q-02018-00446480-00446607 around that we can use those methods +A6Os44whp6Q-02019-00446608-00446831 under anchors i think the +A6Os44whp6Q-02020-00446832-00446975 international standards i referred to +A6Os44whp6Q-02021-00446976-00447095 take a slightly different approach but +A6Os44whp6Q-02022-00447096-00447287 there's an approach there too so +A6Os44whp6Q-02023-00447288-00447622 i think in the the instance of um +A6Os44whp6Q-02024-00447623-00447870 trying to do something that's fairly +A6Os44whp6Q-02025-00447871-00447991 quick fairly simple and +A6Os44whp6Q-02026-00447992-00448151 aligned with what we've already got we +A6Os44whp6Q-02027-00448152-00448310 should be looking at +A6Os44whp6Q-02028-00448312-00448655 how we can draw on those methods +A6Os44whp6Q-02029-00448656-00448951 and certainly you know aim to to keep +A6Os44whp6Q-02030-00448952-00448983 all +A6Os44whp6Q-02031-00448984-00449255 technology pathways kind of moving and +A6Os44whp6Q-02032-00449256-00449663 developing a scheme for all of those +A6Os44whp6Q-02033-00449664-00450014 yeah that's that's it grateful thank you +A6Os44whp6Q-02034-00450015-00450310 uh panel for that uh initial kickoff +A6Os44whp6Q-02035-00450312-00450463 question so now we have questions from +A6Os44whp6Q-02036-00450464-00450599 the audience +A6Os44whp6Q-02037-00450600-00450910 uh and uh a number of these uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02038-00450912-00451055 seem to be questions from different +A6Os44whp6Q-02039-00451056-00451247 people asking why it's the same thing so +A6Os44whp6Q-02040-00451247-00451351 i'll try and +A6Os44whp6Q-02041-00451352-00451566 uh synthesize the questions rather than +A6Os44whp6Q-02042-00451567-00451799 attributing it to one owner or another +A6Os44whp6Q-02043-00451800-00452127 um so for example um uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02044-00452128-00452351 there's been a bit of discussion on the +A6Os44whp6Q-02045-00452352-00452479 chat and also in the q +A6Os44whp6Q-02046-00452480-00452799 a about uh you know defining different +A6Os44whp6Q-02047-00452800-00452879 labels +A6Os44whp6Q-02048-00452880-00453175 um different bands if you like a bit +A6Os44whp6Q-02049-00453176-00453270 like you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02050-00453271-00453663 bands on on the you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02051-00453664-00453822 sugar content of food or something like +A6Os44whp6Q-02052-00453823-00453983 this you know similar sort of thing +A6Os44whp6Q-02053-00453984-00454327 um as opposed to having a continuous +A6Os44whp6Q-02054-00454328-00454599 uh accounting process for the carbon +A6Os44whp6Q-02055-00454600-00454751 dioxide that's embedded in the +A6Os44whp6Q-02056-00454752-00455063 production transport etc processes +A6Os44whp6Q-02057-00455064-00455207 so this has come up in a couple of +A6Os44whp6Q-02058-00455208-00455351 questions so i'd be interested in +A6Os44whp6Q-02059-00455352-00455447 hearing the +A6Os44whp6Q-02060-00455447-00455670 panel's view on the pros and cons of a +A6Os44whp6Q-02061-00455671-00455791 banded system +A6Os44whp6Q-02062-00455792-00456103 uh which might be associated with colors +A6Os44whp6Q-02063-00456104-00456479 versus a continuously uh variable +A6Os44whp6Q-02064-00456480-00457255 carbon accounting system +A6Os44whp6Q-02065-00457256-00457670 um i'm happy to do +A6Os44whp6Q-02066-00457671-00458239 a go job okay sorry um +A6Os44whp6Q-02067-00458239-00458599 as long as the bands are clearly defined +A6Os44whp6Q-02068-00458600-00458910 uh then it probably doesn't matter +A6Os44whp6Q-02069-00458912-00459327 a huge amount i guess +A6Os44whp6Q-02070-00459328-00459566 where it gets trickier is if people +A6Os44whp6Q-02071-00459567-00459847 really want to see +A6Os44whp6Q-02072-00459847-00460183 uh zero emissions hydrogen or really the +A6Os44whp6Q-02073-00460184-00460335 buyers really want zero emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-02074-00460335-00460479 hydrogen then they're +A6Os44whp6Q-02075-00460480-00460647 going to be less happy with something +A6Os44whp6Q-02076-00460647-00460814 that has green green +A6Os44whp6Q-02077-00460815-00461166 hydrogen say defined as between so much +A6Os44whp6Q-02078-00461167-00461287 and so much +A6Os44whp6Q-02079-00461288-00461575 um they want to know that it zero +A6Os44whp6Q-02080-00461576-00461695 emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-02081-00461696-00461918 uh and they want to know the precise +A6Os44whp6Q-02082-00461919-00462287 kilograms that are involved um +A6Os44whp6Q-02083-00462288-00462566 so i think i think it depends a little +A6Os44whp6Q-02084-00462567-00462751 bit on who the customer is and +A6Os44whp6Q-02085-00462752-00463110 and what they kind of what their +A6Os44whp6Q-02086-00463112-00463431 priorities are in terms of emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-02087-00463432-00463743 associated with the hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-02088-00463743-00464191 go on penalty thanks so much +A6Os44whp6Q-02089-00464192-00464510 um i think +A6Os44whp6Q-02090-00464512-00464839 it all comes down to the negotiating +A6Os44whp6Q-02091-00464839-00465239 forum in some ways i think +A6Os44whp6Q-02092-00465239-00465559 obviously it's going to be a lot simpler +A6Os44whp6Q-02093-00465560-00465735 and and i understand it's not an +A6Os44whp6Q-02094-00465735-00466039 uncomplicated matter to even calculate +A6Os44whp6Q-02095-00466039-00466351 the amount of co2 and i would say co2 +A6Os44whp6Q-02096-00466352-00466447 equivalent +A6Os44whp6Q-02097-00466447-00466799 emissions per tonne or kilogram not co2 +A6Os44whp6Q-02098-00466800-00466870 emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-02099-00466871-00466991 because obviously there are other +A6Os44whp6Q-02100-00466992-00467191 greenhouse gases involved +A6Os44whp6Q-02101-00467192-00467487 so but the amount of co2 equivalent per +A6Os44whp6Q-02102-00467488-00467559 tonne +A6Os44whp6Q-02103-00467560-00467879 emissions uh scientists +A6Os44whp6Q-02104-00467880-00468127 with within a year of arguing with each +A6Os44whp6Q-02105-00468128-00468335 other should be able to come up +A6Os44whp6Q-02106-00468335-00468607 with a standard measurement for that +A6Os44whp6Q-02107-00468608-00468847 because i understand a ton of hydrogen +A6Os44whp6Q-02108-00468847-00469063 is not a simple thing +A6Os44whp6Q-02109-00469064-00469310 like there are different intensities or +A6Os44whp6Q-02110-00469312-00469479 something i'm not a scientist but i +A6Os44whp6Q-02111-00469480-00469799 i've heard some arguments um so +A6Os44whp6Q-02112-00469800-00470127 maybe that can be agreed by i don't know +A6Os44whp6Q-02113-00470128-00470399 how many 21 members in iph +A6Os44whp6Q-02114-00470400-00470718 in a year one would hope maybe +A6Os44whp6Q-02115-00470719-00471151 but if you want to get 21 members of iph +A6Os44whp6Q-02116-00471152-00471231 to agree +A6Os44whp6Q-02117-00471232-00471559 to what is green in a year or what is +A6Os44whp6Q-02118-00471560-00471614 blue +A6Os44whp6Q-02119-00471615-00471903 in a year i'm not sure that's going to +A6Os44whp6Q-02120-00471904-00472070 be quite as fast in a +A6Os44whp6Q-02121-00472071-00472399 negotiation um to to +A6Os44whp6Q-02122-00472400-00472751 get agreement on that so i guess for me +A6Os44whp6Q-02123-00472752-00473063 it comes down to +A6Os44whp6Q-02124-00473064-00473327 what's the negotiating form for instance +A6Os44whp6Q-02125-00473328-00473518 if the negotiating forum +A6Os44whp6Q-02126-00473519-00473831 is japan and australia maybe japan and +A6Os44whp6Q-02127-00473832-00473983 australia can agree what's green and +A6Os44whp6Q-02128-00473984-00474118 what's blue +A6Os44whp6Q-02129-00474119-00474399 or what's grey or other colors if they +A6Os44whp6Q-02130-00474400-00474535 want to define them +A6Os44whp6Q-02131-00474535-00474863 but again that may be +A6Os44whp6Q-02132-00474864-00475175 helpful for for some rhetorically +A6Os44whp6Q-02133-00475176-00475470 to be able to say my hydrogen's green or +A6Os44whp6Q-02134-00475471-00475614 my ammonia is green +A6Os44whp6Q-02135-00475615-00475847 but again then it all depends on the +A6Os44whp6Q-02136-00475847-00475983 boundaries +A6Os44whp6Q-02137-00475984-00476199 and then you'll get some critics coming +A6Os44whp6Q-02138-00476200-00476295 and saying +A6Os44whp6Q-02139-00476296-00476607 your ammonia isn't green the solar +A6Os44whp6Q-02140-00476608-00476855 panels that were produced +A6Os44whp6Q-02141-00476856-00477183 they used i don't know what electricity +A6Os44whp6Q-02142-00477184-00477447 in making you get all those life cycle +A6Os44whp6Q-02143-00477447-00477703 criticism starting to come in as well so +A6Os44whp6Q-02144-00477704-00477863 what's really green john +A6Os44whp6Q-02145-00477864-00478095 like is it productive we can say in the +A6Os44whp6Q-02146-00478096-00478183 production +A6Os44whp6Q-02147-00478184-00478510 boundary it is green and don't ask us +A6Os44whp6Q-02148-00478512-00478679 about everything else because we didn't +A6Os44whp6Q-02149-00478680-00478775 measure that +A6Os44whp6Q-02150-00478776-00479070 so again something really simple +A6Os44whp6Q-02151-00479071-00479222 everyone can understand +A6Os44whp6Q-02152-00479223-00479527 co2 equivalent emissions per ton thank +A6Os44whp6Q-02153-00479528-00479663 you very much +A6Os44whp6Q-02154-00479664-00479927 our scientists agreed on what a ton was +A6Os44whp6Q-02155-00479928-00479966 and +A6Os44whp6Q-02156-00479967-00480199 what the greenhouse gases were and let's +A6Os44whp6Q-02157-00480200-00480310 get on with it +A6Os44whp6Q-02158-00480312-00480510 i think you just have the simpler the +A6Os44whp6Q-02159-00480512-00480751 better industries made this quite +A6Os44whp6Q-02160-00480752-00481079 clear i think thank you ben any other +A6Os44whp6Q-02161-00481080-00481262 contributions +A6Os44whp6Q-02162-00481263-00481510 can i just i say i pretty much agree +A6Os44whp6Q-02163-00481512-00481647 with everything that's been said here +A6Os44whp6Q-02164-00481647-00481727 one thing that +A6Os44whp6Q-02165-00481728-00481910 i mean there's been a debate we've been +A6Os44whp6Q-02166-00481912-00482159 having in the team i think one thing +A6Os44whp6Q-02167-00482160-00482327 to remember is that ultimately we're +A6Os44whp6Q-02168-00482328-00482479 going to end up with a +A6Os44whp6Q-02169-00482480-00482679 like it or not a regime complex of +A6Os44whp6Q-02170-00482680-00482870 certification schemes there will not be +A6Os44whp6Q-02171-00482871-00482903 just +A6Os44whp6Q-02172-00482904-00483095 one certification scheme to rule them +A6Os44whp6Q-02173-00483096-00483327 all so one way of thinking about this is +A6Os44whp6Q-02174-00483328-00483518 what should be the role of a federal +A6Os44whp6Q-02175-00483519-00483670 government federal australian government +A6Os44whp6Q-02176-00483671-00483822 supported certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-02177-00483823-00484055 where should they put their energy and i +A6Os44whp6Q-02178-00484056-00484175 would argue that +A6Os44whp6Q-02179-00484176-00484335 exactly along the lines that penn has +A6Os44whp6Q-02180-00484335-00484527 spoken about they should +A6Os44whp6Q-02181-00484528-00484751 be just trying to get the information as +A6Os44whp6Q-02182-00484752-00484991 complete and as clear as possible out +A6Os44whp6Q-02183-00484992-00485047 there +A6Os44whp6Q-02184-00485047-00485270 and then various private entities and +A6Os44whp6Q-02185-00485271-00485518 and you know bilateral and plurilateral +A6Os44whp6Q-02186-00485519-00485599 things +A6Os44whp6Q-02187-00485600-00485862 can then use that clear and certified +A6Os44whp6Q-02188-00485863-00485927 quality +A6Os44whp6Q-02189-00485928-00486191 information to build whatever definition +A6Os44whp6Q-02190-00486192-00486279 you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02191-00486280-00486575 of green or whatever they want at a +A6Os44whp6Q-02192-00486576-00486807 later stage and i think you know as john +A6Os44whp6Q-02193-00486808-00486903 said there'll be different +A6Os44whp6Q-02194-00486904-00487055 consumers of different markets with +A6Os44whp6Q-02195-00487056-00487255 different ideas of what they want that +A6Os44whp6Q-02196-00487256-00487303 to be +A6Os44whp6Q-02197-00487304-00487527 so i really don't think the australian +A6Os44whp6Q-02198-00487528-00487687 government could ever get exactly the +A6Os44whp6Q-02199-00487688-00487839 right definition of what's green or not +A6Os44whp6Q-02200-00487839-00487918 green or even +A6Os44whp6Q-02201-00487919-00488199 in a banded sense um for all those +A6Os44whp6Q-02202-00488200-00488399 different markets so i think you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02203-00488400-00488655 let many flowers bloom according to the +A6Os44whp6Q-02204-00488656-00488831 interests of the consumers on +A6Os44whp6Q-02205-00488832-00489055 what is green or blue or purple or +A6Os44whp6Q-02206-00489056-00489135 whatever +A6Os44whp6Q-02207-00489135-00489327 um and the government's role is to +A6Os44whp6Q-02208-00489328-00489495 provide clear and correct +A6Os44whp6Q-02209-00489496-00489735 information to the market so there you +A6Os44whp6Q-02210-00489735-00490007 go rebecca it's all easy you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02211-00490008-00490222 do all that and at the same time +A6Os44whp6Q-02212-00490223-00490343 remember that the uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02213-00490343-00490614 third most common uh feature to include +A6Os44whp6Q-02214-00490615-00490910 in the certification was simplicity +A6Os44whp6Q-02215-00490912-00491255 yeah yeah i i just um +A6Os44whp6Q-02216-00491256-00491431 yeah like i agree with what amber and +A6Os44whp6Q-02217-00491432-00491703 penn has said um +A6Os44whp6Q-02218-00491704-00491847 i think it yeah it would take a lot of +A6Os44whp6Q-02219-00491847-00492062 time to get international agreement over +A6Os44whp6Q-02220-00492063-00492351 bands or colors um the approach in the +A6Os44whp6Q-02221-00492352-00492518 strategy was just that we should +A6Os44whp6Q-02222-00492519-00492718 in the first instance track production +A6Os44whp6Q-02223-00492719-00492870 technology and emissions and that's +A6Os44whp6Q-02224-00492871-00493062 enough information for people +A6Os44whp6Q-02225-00493063-00493270 to make their decisions about what color +A6Os44whp6Q-02226-00493271-00493383 it or what band +A6Os44whp6Q-02227-00493384-00493822 it is um and and yeah it's just sort of +A6Os44whp6Q-02228-00493823-00493999 and don't forget we need to do this +A6Os44whp6Q-02229-00494000-00494231 anyway so you can apply your band it's +A6Os44whp6Q-02230-00494232-00494470 a first step anyway so i think you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02231-00494471-00494639 that's where our focus is for the time +A6Os44whp6Q-02232-00494639-00494847 being it's where iph's focus is at the +A6Os44whp6Q-02233-00494847-00495031 moment is just getting that +A6Os44whp6Q-02234-00495032-00495335 those building blocks for it right +A6Os44whp6Q-02235-00495335-00495527 yeah yeah so i think it's important to +A6Os44whp6Q-02236-00495528-00495687 remember it's not like a food label +A6Os44whp6Q-02237-00495688-00495862 where anything below a certain level is +A6Os44whp6Q-02238-00495863-00496166 regarded as safe uh every co2 molecule +A6Os44whp6Q-02239-00496167-00496351 emitted in a so-called green label still +A6Os44whp6Q-02240-00496352-00496559 contributes to global warming so +A6Os44whp6Q-02241-00496560-00496822 uh that i think uh speaks of volumes for +A6Os44whp6Q-02242-00496823-00497070 a continuous carbon accounting system +A6Os44whp6Q-02243-00497071-00497383 uh great so uh speaking of uh such +A6Os44whp6Q-02244-00497384-00497543 things um there's been a number of +A6Os44whp6Q-02245-00497543-00497607 questions +A6Os44whp6Q-02246-00497608-00497903 uh up on the chat and on the q a about +A6Os44whp6Q-02247-00497904-00498079 scope free emissions and uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02248-00498080-00498239 seems like this is a pretty active uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02249-00498239-00498431 debate uh particularly +A6Os44whp6Q-02250-00498432-00498622 so escape three emissions uh for those +A6Os44whp6Q-02251-00498623-00498791 of you that aren't familiar with it +A6Os44whp6Q-02252-00498792-00498991 are basically those uh missions emitted +A6Os44whp6Q-02253-00498992-00499127 outside the um +A6Os44whp6Q-02254-00499128-00499375 the corporate entity that is uh doing +A6Os44whp6Q-02255-00499376-00499495 the um +A6Os44whp6Q-02256-00499496-00499807 uh the the uh contribution to the uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02257-00499808-00500127 supply chain process um so uh for +A6Os44whp6Q-02258-00500128-00500343 example fugitive emissions that occur in +A6Os44whp6Q-02259-00500343-00500518 the production of methane +A6Os44whp6Q-02260-00500519-00500822 um uh if you're a a company that's +A6Os44whp6Q-02261-00500823-00500975 making hydrogen out of methane +A6Os44whp6Q-02262-00500976-00501159 are they uh how are they going to be +A6Os44whp6Q-02263-00501160-00501303 included in the in the process should +A6Os44whp6Q-02264-00501304-00501455 they be included in the process so the +A6Os44whp6Q-02265-00501456-00501543 question that we've had +A6Os44whp6Q-02266-00501543-00501783 from a number of our audience is uh how +A6Os44whp6Q-02267-00501784-00501847 do you cope +A6Os44whp6Q-02268-00501847-00502062 with scope 3 emissions and particularly +A6Os44whp6Q-02269-00502063-00502559 fugitive emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-02270-00502560-00502727 all right i'll have a go this is a bit +A6Os44whp6Q-02271-00502728-00502870 of a tricky one but i guess +A6Os44whp6Q-02272-00502871-00503143 um whether it's scope one two or three +A6Os44whp6Q-02273-00503143-00503247 depends on +A6Os44whp6Q-02274-00503247-00503455 whose perspective you're looking at that +A6Os44whp6Q-02275-00503456-00503591 from so +A6Os44whp6Q-02276-00503592-00503775 if you're just the hydrogen production +A6Os44whp6Q-02277-00503776-00503966 facility those upstream +A6Os44whp6Q-02278-00503967-00504222 fugitive emissions are scope 3 and you +A6Os44whp6Q-02279-00504223-00504407 wouldn't be required to report that +A6Os44whp6Q-02280-00504408-00504535 under angers but +A6Os44whp6Q-02281-00504535-00504766 i guess if you look at the boundary +A6Os44whp6Q-02282-00504767-00504966 weltergate that we've been talking about +A6Os44whp6Q-02283-00504967-00505279 um you could think of it as kind of copy +A6Os44whp6Q-02284-00505280-00505479 um counting that like scope 1 and scope +A6Os44whp6Q-02285-00505480-00505607 2 emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-02286-00505608-00505814 at each point along that so you just go +A6Os44whp6Q-02287-00505815-00506007 count the scope one and two associated +A6Os44whp6Q-02288-00506008-00506214 with the fossil fuel extraction +A6Os44whp6Q-02289-00506215-00506407 scope one and two associated with the +A6Os44whp6Q-02290-00506408-00506622 transport scope one and two associated +A6Os44whp6Q-02291-00506623-00506791 with the hydrogen production +A6Os44whp6Q-02292-00506792-00507191 um so it's a little bit complicated but +A6Os44whp6Q-02293-00507192-00507399 um i think that that's how i've been +A6Os44whp6Q-02294-00507400-00507527 looking at these +A6Os44whp6Q-02295-00507528-00507743 sort of worlds gate boundaries anyway +A6Os44whp6Q-02296-00507743-00507855 but happy for other +A6Os44whp6Q-02297-00507856-00508159 perspectives on on this um yeah i think +A6Os44whp6Q-02298-00508160-00508310 rebecca that's a very good point to make +A6Os44whp6Q-02299-00508312-00508510 but i i would contend it depends on +A6Os44whp6Q-02300-00508512-00508662 whose gate it is right +A6Os44whp6Q-02301-00508663-00508910 um so let's not talk about a gate let's +A6Os44whp6Q-02302-00508912-00509031 talk about i don't know +A6Os44whp6Q-02303-00509032-00509399 um well to um to uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02304-00509400-00509639 methane pipeline end or something like +A6Os44whp6Q-02305-00509639-00509718 this but +A6Os44whp6Q-02306-00509719-00509918 uh the gate is really dependent on who +A6Os44whp6Q-02307-00509919-00510135 the the entity is that's uh contributing +A6Os44whp6Q-02308-00510135-00510366 at the at the last point in the chain so +A6Os44whp6Q-02309-00510367-00510655 uh it's a little bit of a um a difficult +A6Os44whp6Q-02310-00510656-00510703 uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02311-00510704-00511022 terminology in that regard yeah +A6Os44whp6Q-02312-00511023-00511159 i guess i'd like to add to that where +A6Os44whp6Q-02313-00511160-00511366 yeah i mean scope 3 is very +A6Os44whp6Q-02314-00511367-00511687 difficult to calculate um +A6Os44whp6Q-02315-00511688-00511839 and it is our intention to keep this +A6Os44whp6Q-02316-00511839-00512014 simple and aligned with existing +A6Os44whp6Q-02317-00512015-00512310 frameworks but that weltergate +A6Os44whp6Q-02318-00512312-00512470 yeah that that's a sort of slightly +A6Os44whp6Q-02319-00512471-00512687 broader boundary than angers +A6Os44whp6Q-02320-00512688-00512822 but if we're going to be internationally +A6Os44whp6Q-02321-00512823-00513062 consistent we might have to look at how +A6Os44whp6Q-02322-00513063-00513391 how we do that i guess yeah +A6Os44whp6Q-02323-00513392-00513662 yeah again that simplicity is is the +A6Os44whp6Q-02324-00513663-00513847 important thing i agree with you rebecca +A6Os44whp6Q-02325-00513847-00513943 i think if you +A6Os44whp6Q-02326-00513943-00514166 once you move start to try and work out +A6Os44whp6Q-02327-00514167-00514422 what scope three emissions are then +A6Os44whp6Q-02328-00514423-00514743 you very quickly become a very +A6Os44whp6Q-02329-00514743-00515255 challenging can of worms to do +A6Os44whp6Q-02330-00515256-00515439 yeah and just to clarify i think i +A6Os44whp6Q-02331-00515439-00515583 personally think that's a great idea +A6Os44whp6Q-02332-00515584-00515614 right +A6Os44whp6Q-02333-00515615-00515918 so so scope one and two isn't sufficient +A6Os44whp6Q-02334-00515919-00516079 if you're just talking about an entity +A6Os44whp6Q-02335-00516080-00516262 potentially buying gas from someone else +A6Os44whp6Q-02336-00516263-00516407 but if you're saying but we're sort of +A6Os44whp6Q-02337-00516408-00516527 gonna fudge it a bit +A6Os44whp6Q-02338-00516528-00516695 and make the scope one and two go back +A6Os44whp6Q-02339-00516696-00516831 down the supply chain +A6Os44whp6Q-02340-00516832-00517022 all the way to the well then i think +A6Os44whp6Q-02341-00517023-00517207 that's actually a really intelligent um +A6Os44whp6Q-02342-00517208-00517343 approach to not dealing with the +A6Os44whp6Q-02343-00517343-00517543 complexity of all scope three emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-02344-00517543-00517718 but getting those big order of magnitude +A6Os44whp6Q-02345-00517719-00517766 you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02346-00517767-00518070 25 percent ones into the scheme in a in +A6Os44whp6Q-02347-00518071-00518103 a +A6Os44whp6Q-02348-00518104-00518422 efficient way +A6Os44whp6Q-02349-00518423-00518759 yeah so i think there's scope to narrow +A6Os44whp6Q-02350-00518760-00518910 it if you like within that broader +A6Os44whp6Q-02351-00518912-00519062 boundary that doesn't quite make sense +A6Os44whp6Q-02352-00519063-00519183 but um +A6Os44whp6Q-02353-00519184-00519351 but yeah it's not that we'd have to +A6Os44whp6Q-02354-00519352-00519527 count you've got to build a gate +A6Os44whp6Q-02355-00519528-00519687 boundary but you don't have to cope +A6Os44whp6Q-02356-00519688-00519855 account all scope three emissions within +A6Os44whp6Q-02357-00519856-00520095 that um but i think this is some of the +A6Os44whp6Q-02358-00520096-00520262 detail that we need to sort of look at +A6Os44whp6Q-02359-00520263-00520607 um through the you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02360-00520608-00520735 that we're looking at currently and from +A6Os44whp6Q-02361-00520735-00521743 now on +A6Os44whp6Q-02362-00521743-00522103 very good thank you um so let's uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02363-00522104-00522295 just look at a couple more questions +A6Os44whp6Q-02364-00522296-00522518 here +A6Os44whp6Q-02365-00522519-00522831 so there's been a bit of discussion +A6Os44whp6Q-02366-00522832-00523062 about +A6Os44whp6Q-02367-00523063-00523383 how blockchain lends itself to this type +A6Os44whp6Q-02368-00523384-00523631 of process +A6Os44whp6Q-02369-00523632-00524007 and depending on what your uh background +A6Os44whp6Q-02370-00524008-00524047 is +A6Os44whp6Q-02371-00524047-00524239 um we might need a bit of explanation +A6Os44whp6Q-02372-00524239-00524366 for the audience as to how that might +A6Os44whp6Q-02373-00524367-00524431 work +A6Os44whp6Q-02374-00524432-00524639 uh what do people think about uh the +A6Os44whp6Q-02375-00524640-00524791 application of blockchain to this type +A6Os44whp6Q-02376-00524792-00525303 of certification process +A6Os44whp6Q-02377-00525304-00525662 you'd like to have a go um +A6Os44whp6Q-02378-00525663-00525983 i'm not an expert on blockchain but i +A6Os44whp6Q-02379-00525984-00526022 can +A6Os44whp6Q-02380-00526023-00526343 say that it was discussed uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02381-00526344-00526662 uh i think on the 28th of august +A6Os44whp6Q-02382-00526663-00526959 at the ammonia energy association +A6Os44whp6Q-02383-00526960-00527111 national conference +A6Os44whp6Q-02384-00527112-00527359 and there were people who understood it +A6Os44whp6Q-02385-00527360-00527535 who had a great conversation +A6Os44whp6Q-02386-00527536-00527887 and i i heard it but basically it's one +A6Os44whp6Q-02387-00527888-00528062 of the candidates as well from what i +A6Os44whp6Q-02388-00528063-00528151 understand +A6Os44whp6Q-02389-00528152-00528462 from the experts and +A6Os44whp6Q-02390-00528463-00528791 there are all sorts of issues about the +A6Os44whp6Q-02391-00528792-00529118 veracity of the data that would be +A6Os44whp6Q-02392-00529119-00529222 included +A6Os44whp6Q-02393-00529223-00529455 blockchain's one potential technology +A6Os44whp6Q-02394-00529456-00529751 that could be used it has its downsides +A6Os44whp6Q-02395-00529752-00529991 as do other types of technology that +A6Os44whp6Q-02396-00529992-00530143 could be used +A6Os44whp6Q-02397-00530144-00530455 so it's all about the +A6Os44whp6Q-02398-00530456-00530727 uh dependence the reliability of the +A6Os44whp6Q-02399-00530728-00530807 data +A6Os44whp6Q-02400-00530808-00531039 is absolutely paramount now there's no +A6Os44whp6Q-02401-00531040-00531214 use having a system +A6Os44whp6Q-02402-00531215-00531495 uh of certification which which you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02403-00531496-00531591 gets called in +A6Os44whp6Q-02404-00531592-00531807 question in terms of whether the data is +A6Os44whp6Q-02405-00531808-00531975 correct or not +A6Os44whp6Q-02406-00531976-00532351 so um i think +A6Os44whp6Q-02407-00532352-00532527 that's just what i wanted to say i think +A6Os44whp6Q-02408-00532528-00532751 there needs to be conversations +A6Os44whp6Q-02409-00532752-00533087 amongst data management experts +A6Os44whp6Q-02410-00533088-00533351 and and verification and certification +A6Os44whp6Q-02411-00533352-00533462 experts +A6Os44whp6Q-02412-00533463-00533727 to look at these sorts of options and +A6Os44whp6Q-02413-00533728-00533822 come up with +A6Os44whp6Q-02414-00533823-00534111 with the best the best system that suits +A6Os44whp6Q-02415-00534112-00534191 us +A6Os44whp6Q-02416-00534192-00534503 including us as australians with with +A6Os44whp6Q-02417-00534504-00534551 the +A6Os44whp6Q-02418-00534552-00534839 particular characteristics of our +A6Os44whp6Q-02419-00534840-00535022 products and our markets and our +A6Os44whp6Q-02420-00535023-00535175 capabilities +A6Os44whp6Q-02421-00535176-00535470 obviously when you design these things +A6Os44whp6Q-02422-00535471-00535631 you need to bear in mind +A6Os44whp6Q-02423-00535632-00535943 if you're doing a global system how will +A6Os44whp6Q-02424-00535944-00536111 this work for the south african +A6Os44whp6Q-02425-00536112-00536335 producers who want to or don't want to +A6Os44whp6Q-02426-00536336-00536527 join this certification system the +A6Os44whp6Q-02427-00536528-00536718 chilean producers +A6Os44whp6Q-02428-00536719-00537079 the you know we're talking about morocco +A6Os44whp6Q-02429-00537080-00537414 is is laying down their you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02430-00537415-00537575 this is going to be international so +A6Os44whp6Q-02431-00537576-00537751 again designing something that's +A6Os44whp6Q-02432-00537752-00537991 awesome for australia but then can't be +A6Os44whp6Q-02433-00537992-00538255 replicated in other countries easily +A6Os44whp6Q-02434-00538256-00538431 may present opportunities for us for +A6Os44whp6Q-02435-00538432-00538631 capacity building or may just mean they +A6Os44whp6Q-02436-00538632-00538847 go with their own systems so +A6Os44whp6Q-02437-00538848-00539055 i'll just stop with that but yeah it's +A6Os44whp6Q-02438-00539056-00539551 an important question +A6Os44whp6Q-02439-00539552-00539670 anybody else like to weigh in on +A6Os44whp6Q-02440-00539671-00539814 blockchain people are doing that on the +A6Os44whp6Q-02441-00539815-00540318 chat i see +A6Os44whp6Q-02442-00540319-00540631 well i'm not a blockchain expert +A6Os44whp6Q-02443-00540632-00540879 so but but what i from what i understand +A6Os44whp6Q-02444-00540880-00540959 about it +A6Os44whp6Q-02445-00540960-00541262 it's uh one of its strengths might be +A6Os44whp6Q-02446-00541263-00541487 that it's um +A6Os44whp6Q-02447-00541488-00541799 a reasonably +A6Os44whp6Q-02448-00541800-00542143 uh safe way of +A6Os44whp6Q-02449-00542144-00542479 passing on a certificate um avoiding +A6Os44whp6Q-02450-00542480-00542670 sort of duplication and double counting +A6Os44whp6Q-02451-00542671-00542870 things like that um +A6Os44whp6Q-02452-00542871-00543222 that's that's about all i know so but +A6Os44whp6Q-02453-00543223-00543527 yeah blockchain experts of the world +A6Os44whp6Q-02454-00543528-00543887 can work it out +A6Os44whp6Q-02455-00543888-00544118 good um so let's move on to another +A6Os44whp6Q-02456-00544119-00544239 question uh so +A6Os44whp6Q-02457-00544240-00544566 there's been a discussion uh uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02458-00544567-00544895 around the use of uh certificates +A6Os44whp6Q-02459-00544896-00545127 um like renewable renewable energy +A6Os44whp6Q-02460-00545128-00545262 certificates +A6Os44whp6Q-02461-00545263-00545575 uh being used to trade +A6Os44whp6Q-02462-00545576-00545887 uh between uh you know customers and +A6Os44whp6Q-02463-00545888-00546070 suppliers etc etc +A6Os44whp6Q-02464-00546071-00546391 um you can potentially issue a +A6Os44whp6Q-02465-00546392-00546479 certificate +A6Os44whp6Q-02466-00546480-00546831 based on a certain level of uh co2 +A6Os44whp6Q-02467-00546832-00546983 content +A6Os44whp6Q-02468-00546984-00547214 below a threshold perhaps and and have +A6Os44whp6Q-02469-00547215-00547351 these traded so +A6Os44whp6Q-02470-00547352-00547655 what do the panel think about such a +A6Os44whp6Q-02471-00547656-00547887 a certificate trading scheme as an +A6Os44whp6Q-02472-00547888-00548551 option +A6Os44whp6Q-02473-00548552-00548999 is someone suggesting a carbon market +A6Os44whp6Q-02474-00549000-00549191 uh sorry i had to do it had to do it +A6Os44whp6Q-02475-00549192-00549351 academic economist +A6Os44whp6Q-02476-00549352-00549670 by default yes +A6Os44whp6Q-02477-00549671-00549879 but the you know the renewable any +A6Os44whp6Q-02478-00549880-00550047 energy certificates that are +A6Os44whp6Q-02479-00550048-00550407 um uh around here in australia +A6Os44whp6Q-02480-00550408-00550814 um i have a similar basis +A6Os44whp6Q-02481-00550815-00550991 yeah um i think in the first instance +A6Os44whp6Q-02482-00550992-00551143 we're just looking at um +A6Os44whp6Q-02483-00551144-00551375 certifying and tracking the emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-02484-00551376-00551518 associated with production +A6Os44whp6Q-02485-00551519-00551775 okay a guarantee of origin scheme so to +A6Os44whp6Q-02486-00551776-00551918 say there's +A6Os44whp6Q-02487-00551919-00552143 you know no hydrogen targets or anything +A6Os44whp6Q-02488-00552144-00552231 like that to +A6Os44whp6Q-02489-00552232-00552959 to set up that sort of regime um +A6Os44whp6Q-02490-00552960-00553262 any other views +A6Os44whp6Q-02491-00553263-00553407 of course it might be said that if we +A6Os44whp6Q-02492-00553408-00553591 had a uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02493-00553592-00553966 a universal global uh carbon uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02494-00553967-00554103 trading system that we wouldn't be +A6Os44whp6Q-02495-00554104-00554239 having this discussion tonight because +A6Os44whp6Q-02496-00554240-00554414 it will be done by that but uh we don't +A6Os44whp6Q-02497-00554415-00554447 so +A6Os44whp6Q-02498-00554448-00554759 hence we need certification to uh be +A6Os44whp6Q-02499-00554760-00554870 able to determine +A6Os44whp6Q-02500-00554871-00555055 the carbon content of various products +A6Os44whp6Q-02501-00555056-00555262 and uh and to influence +A6Os44whp6Q-02502-00555263-00555591 uh the uh the saleability and uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02503-00555592-00555911 the um uh the demand for for such +A6Os44whp6Q-02504-00555912-00556055 products +A6Os44whp6Q-02505-00556056-00556335 uh any other commentary on on the +A6Os44whp6Q-02506-00556336-00556575 certificates idea +A6Os44whp6Q-02507-00556576-00556831 just quickly while you know it's great +A6Os44whp6Q-02508-00556832-00556911 to +A6Os44whp6Q-02509-00556912-00557151 be as inclusive in in what's being +A6Os44whp6Q-02510-00557152-00557335 priced into the you know emissions as +A6Os44whp6Q-02511-00557336-00557431 possible of course +A6Os44whp6Q-02512-00557432-00557559 on the other hand if we start having +A6Os44whp6Q-02513-00557560-00557759 lots of somewhat complicated and +A6Os44whp6Q-02514-00557760-00557862 australian specific +A6Os44whp6Q-02515-00557863-00558055 australian regulatory regime specific +A6Os44whp6Q-02516-00558056-00558214 components in our regime +A6Os44whp6Q-02517-00558215-00558455 it will undermine um trust and +A6Os44whp6Q-02518-00558456-00558607 confidence in our scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-02519-00558608-00559422 with overseas markets potentially +A6Os44whp6Q-02520-00559423-00559775 and that and that confidence having +A6Os44whp6Q-02521-00559776-00560143 confidence in the scheme both among +A6Os44whp6Q-02522-00560144-00560359 you know the the sellers and buyers is +A6Os44whp6Q-02523-00560360-00560462 crucial particularly +A6Os44whp6Q-02524-00560463-00560751 among buyers you know they they've got +A6Os44whp6Q-02525-00560752-00560895 to be confident that they're getting +A6Os44whp6Q-02526-00560896-00561022 what they're paying for +A6Os44whp6Q-02527-00561023-00561351 and the buyers +A6Os44whp6Q-02528-00561352-00561622 the sellers rather they have an +A6Os44whp6Q-02529-00561623-00561718 incentive because +A6Os44whp6Q-02530-00561719-00561983 they are hoping probably that they'll +A6Os44whp6Q-02531-00561984-00562070 get +A6Os44whp6Q-02532-00562071-00562607 a price premium for um +A6Os44whp6Q-02533-00562608-00562983 for hydrogen with with low low or zero +A6Os44whp6Q-02534-00562984-00563255 emissions associated with it so having +A6Os44whp6Q-02535-00563256-00563407 confidence that you've +A6Os44whp6Q-02536-00563408-00563670 you've got got a scheme that that is +A6Os44whp6Q-02537-00563671-00563807 trustworthy +A6Os44whp6Q-02538-00563808-00564214 is good +A6Os44whp6Q-02539-00564215-00564583 perhaps i'll just um say +A6Os44whp6Q-02540-00564584-00564831 and and john you referred to buyers and +A6Os44whp6Q-02541-00564832-00564927 sellers +A6Os44whp6Q-02542-00564928-00565327 and um and this comes down to again +A6Os44whp6Q-02543-00565328-00565422 geography +A6Os44whp6Q-02544-00565423-00565783 perhaps um that a system that can be +A6Os44whp6Q-02545-00565784-00565975 negotiated globally +A6Os44whp6Q-02546-00565976-00566191 around these issues involves a lot of +A6Os44whp6Q-02547-00566192-00566279 different buyers +A6Os44whp6Q-02548-00566280-00566479 and a lot of different sellers with a +A6Os44whp6Q-02549-00566480-00566695 lot of different preferences +A6Os44whp6Q-02550-00566696-00566887 as reflected by the perhaps the +A6Os44whp6Q-02551-00566888-00567055 negotiating positions of their +A6Os44whp6Q-02552-00567056-00567279 respective governments +A6Os44whp6Q-02553-00567280-00567703 and and um again i i the way i see it +A6Os44whp6Q-02554-00567704-00568039 it's not an either or i think +A6Os44whp6Q-02555-00568040-00568318 definitely a multilateral agreement +A6Os44whp6Q-02556-00568319-00568462 around certification +A6Os44whp6Q-02557-00568463-00568775 is ideal as per the hydrogen strategy +A6Os44whp6Q-02558-00568776-00568887 and we should be +A6Os44whp6Q-02559-00568888-00569191 actively engaging in in that as as we +A6Os44whp6Q-02560-00569192-00569318 are +A6Os44whp6Q-02561-00569319-00569662 but at the same time as we all know +A6Os44whp6Q-02562-00569663-00569959 things happen at multilateral level at a +A6Os44whp6Q-02563-00569960-00570079 regional level +A6Os44whp6Q-02564-00570080-00570362 and at bilateral level often +A6Os44whp6Q-02565-00570363-00570518 simultaneously +A6Os44whp6Q-02566-00570519-00570799 with different parties and different +A6Os44whp6Q-02567-00570800-00571055 conversations and priorities so +A6Os44whp6Q-02568-00571056-00571262 again when we talk about buyers and +A6Os44whp6Q-02569-00571263-00571422 sellers i guess +A6Os44whp6Q-02570-00571423-00571622 the sellers we're most concerned about +A6Os44whp6Q-02571-00571623-00571855 of course are the ones in australia +A6Os44whp6Q-02572-00571856-00572070 and the buyers again that we're most +A6Os44whp6Q-02573-00572071-00572255 concerned about are the ones we're +A6Os44whp6Q-02574-00572256-00572583 likely to actually sell to so um +A6Os44whp6Q-02575-00572584-00572855 it'd just be interesting to and i know +A6Os44whp6Q-02576-00572856-00572927 that um +A6Os44whp6Q-02577-00572928-00573279 rebecca and her team are in +A6Os44whp6Q-02578-00573280-00573535 you know uh looking at those those +A6Os44whp6Q-02579-00573536-00573718 international relationships that are +A6Os44whp6Q-02580-00573719-00573847 probably going to be the highest +A6Os44whp6Q-02581-00573848-00574083 priority +A6Os44whp6Q-02582-00574084-00574375 um yeah so +A6Os44whp6Q-02583-00574376-00574647 it's a complex picture but i just want +A6Os44whp6Q-02584-00574648-00574935 to make that point +A6Os44whp6Q-02585-00574936-00575110 yeah at the end of the day we want we +A6Os44whp6Q-02586-00575111-00575351 want a scheme that's good for australia +A6Os44whp6Q-02587-00575352-00575735 um we you know if +A6Os44whp6Q-02588-00575736-00575951 if an internationally accepted scheme is +A6Os44whp6Q-02589-00575952-00576110 bad for us then +A6Os44whp6Q-02590-00576111-00576279 we're better off having something that's +A6Os44whp6Q-02591-00576280-00576518 good for our good a better scheme that's +A6Os44whp6Q-02592-00576519-00576822 acceptable to our customers uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02593-00576823-00577191 and good for australia can i provide a +A6Os44whp6Q-02594-00577192-00577295 dissenting opinion +A6Os44whp6Q-02595-00577296-00577447 it just depends on what you define as +A6Os44whp6Q-02596-00577448-00577631 good for australia like as an academic +A6Os44whp6Q-02597-00577632-00577775 as opposed to a member of a +A6Os44whp6Q-02598-00577776-00578039 government i think good for the world um +A6Os44whp6Q-02599-00578040-00578222 and avoiding catastrophic climate change +A6Os44whp6Q-02600-00578223-00578255 is +A6Os44whp6Q-02601-00578256-00578414 actually the number one priority for the +A6Os44whp6Q-02602-00578415-00578655 certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-02603-00578656-00578959 i don't think i don't i think uh as i +A6Os44whp6Q-02604-00578960-00579143 made the point earlier i said i don't +A6Os44whp6Q-02605-00579144-00579295 think people or countries are going to +A6Os44whp6Q-02606-00579296-00579455 be interested in importing +A6Os44whp6Q-02607-00579456-00579607 hydrogen with lots of emissions +A6Os44whp6Q-02608-00579608-00579799 associated with them in the +A6Os44whp6Q-02609-00579800-00580039 in the medium term by that you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02610-00580040-00580110 they're not +A6Os44whp6Q-02611-00580111-00580255 we're not going to be able to sell lots +A6Os44whp6Q-02612-00580256-00580535 of dirty hydrogen put it that way +A6Os44whp6Q-02613-00580536-00580727 yes and that's actually uh segway's +A6Os44whp6Q-02614-00580728-00580910 nicely drawn into a question that's been +A6Os44whp6Q-02615-00580911-00581070 asked here which +A6Os44whp6Q-02616-00581071-00581287 talks about the eu moving towards border +A6Os44whp6Q-02617-00581288-00581407 adjustments for +A6Os44whp6Q-02618-00581408-00581695 carbon content uh particularly in +A6Os44whp6Q-02619-00581696-00581870 embedded energy products +A6Os44whp6Q-02620-00581871-00582175 um the us has uh also had some thoughts +A6Os44whp6Q-02621-00582176-00582343 down the same lines +A6Os44whp6Q-02622-00582344-00582670 um so uh wouldn't +A6Os44whp6Q-02623-00582671-00583007 uh so the question is really um you know +A6Os44whp6Q-02624-00583008-00583366 wouldn't uh certification uh schemes +A6Os44whp6Q-02625-00583367-00583687 uh like this uh greatly uh facilitate +A6Os44whp6Q-02626-00583688-00583831 the implementation of such border +A6Os44whp6Q-02627-00583832-00584039 adjustments and give you exactly the +A6Os44whp6Q-02628-00584040-00584327 um the information that's needed to +A6Os44whp6Q-02629-00584328-00584407 enable +A6Os44whp6Q-02630-00584408-00584631 countries uh like this just to simply +A6Os44whp6Q-02631-00584632-00584822 lay another policy completely over the +A6Os44whp6Q-02632-00584823-00585022 top of the certification scheme +A6Os44whp6Q-02633-00585023-00585262 and thereby um make use of the work +A6Os44whp6Q-02634-00585263-00585470 already done in the accounting processes +A6Os44whp6Q-02635-00585471-00585510 for +A6Os44whp6Q-02636-00585511-00585759 embedded carbon so that's the question +A6Os44whp6Q-02637-00585760-00586366 for the panel +A6Os44whp6Q-02638-00586367-00586599 can i um use some of the information +A6Os44whp6Q-02639-00586600-00586775 that i have from our +A6Os44whp6Q-02640-00586776-00586951 one of our wonderful succundies uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02641-00586952-00587239 alison reeve who's just started with us +A6Os44whp6Q-02642-00587240-00587470 interestingly the european certified +A6Os44whp6Q-02643-00587471-00587599 scheme boundary +A6Os44whp6Q-02644-00587600-00587799 doesn't exactly line up with the way it +A6Os44whp6Q-02645-00587800-00587943 looks like they bought a tariff +A6Os44whp6Q-02646-00587944-00588118 adjustment is going to work so the +A6Os44whp6Q-02647-00588119-00588247 certified scheme boundary with the +A6Os44whp6Q-02648-00588248-00588422 fugitive emissions for example +A6Os44whp6Q-02649-00588423-00588718 lines up with their fuel directives um +A6Os44whp6Q-02650-00588719-00588903 whereas the border tariff adjustment +A6Os44whp6Q-02651-00588904-00589047 looks like it's going to line up with +A6Os44whp6Q-02652-00589048-00589214 their emissions traded scheme and +A6Os44whp6Q-02653-00589215-00589431 transport is not part of the ats +A6Os44whp6Q-02654-00589432-00589751 so it's strictly one scope one and two +A6Os44whp6Q-02655-00589752-00589983 um so actually there there is a conflict +A6Os44whp6Q-02656-00589984-00590151 even in the european approach +A6Os44whp6Q-02657-00590152-00590431 um on that so it's not clear um how +A6Os44whp6Q-02658-00590432-00590575 that's going to land for australia +A6Os44whp6Q-02659-00590576-00590687 except noting that +A6Os44whp6Q-02660-00590688-00590959 um transport which is well it depends +A6Os44whp6Q-02661-00590960-00591095 because hydrogen pneumonia can be used +A6Os44whp6Q-02662-00591096-00591239 both in industry and transport and +A6Os44whp6Q-02663-00591240-00591375 there's a danger that they'll be treated +A6Os44whp6Q-02664-00591376-00591518 differently depending on +A6Os44whp6Q-02665-00591519-00592214 what the end user is +A6Os44whp6Q-02666-00592215-00592727 other comments on border adjustments +A6Os44whp6Q-02667-00592728-00593222 no +A6Os44whp6Q-02668-00593223-00593510 we um we still have a number of +A6Os44whp6Q-02669-00593511-00593622 questions but i +A6Os44whp6Q-02670-00593623-00593814 make note that we're now well over our +A6Os44whp6Q-02671-00593815-00594039 allotted time +A6Os44whp6Q-02672-00594040-00594359 if people have specific questions of +A6Os44whp6Q-02673-00594360-00594591 information that they'd like to know +A6Os44whp6Q-02674-00594592-00594703 about +A6Os44whp6Q-02675-00594704-00595110 then please add that to their q a panel +A6Os44whp6Q-02676-00595111-00595303 we will endeavor to answer those +A6Os44whp6Q-02677-00595304-00595462 questions where you're after a specific +A6Os44whp6Q-02678-00595463-00595607 piece of information +A6Os44whp6Q-02679-00595608-00595735 uh and i see that there have been a +A6Os44whp6Q-02680-00595736-00595935 number of those they're not +A6Os44whp6Q-02681-00595936-00596103 more general questions that would be +A6Os44whp6Q-02682-00596104-00596255 good for discussion but uh if you're +A6Os44whp6Q-02683-00596256-00596366 after information +A6Os44whp6Q-02684-00596367-00596575 uh we'll certainly do our best to +A6Os44whp6Q-02685-00596576-00596695 provide that so +A6Os44whp6Q-02686-00596696-00596903 you're welcome to look at that we will +A6Os44whp6Q-02687-00596904-00597166 be capturing what's on the q a panel but +A6Os44whp6Q-02688-00597167-00597366 also on the chat +A6Os44whp6Q-02689-00597367-00597583 and where appropriate uh we will be able +A6Os44whp6Q-02690-00597584-00597695 to respond +A6Os44whp6Q-02691-00597696-00598022 uh to those uh to those queries um +A6Os44whp6Q-02692-00598023-00598287 so i think uh that might be a good time +A6Os44whp6Q-02693-00598288-00598439 to wrap things up +A6Os44whp6Q-02694-00598440-00598718 uh we've had a really uh well-engaged +A6Os44whp6Q-02695-00598719-00598791 audience +A6Os44whp6Q-02696-00598792-00599014 we still have uh more than half of the +A6Os44whp6Q-02697-00599015-00599214 audience with us so that's always a good +A6Os44whp6Q-02698-00599215-00599318 sign +A6Os44whp6Q-02699-00599319-00599543 the questions have been extremely uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02700-00599544-00599703 appropriate and uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02701-00599704-00599943 and insightful uh and i think there's a +A6Os44whp6Q-02702-00599944-00600022 lot of +A6Os44whp6Q-02703-00600023-00600310 interest out there in this topic uh we +A6Os44whp6Q-02704-00600311-00600399 at the anu +A6Os44whp6Q-02705-00600400-00600583 in the energy change institute and in +A6Os44whp6Q-02706-00600584-00600791 the grand challenge zero carbon energy +A6Os44whp6Q-02707-00600792-00600935 for the asia pacific +A6Os44whp6Q-02708-00600936-00601166 uh we'll be researching these questions +A6Os44whp6Q-02709-00601167-00601247 in uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02710-00601248-00601439 great detail over the coming months and +A6Os44whp6Q-02711-00601440-00601599 uh we hope to uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02712-00601600-00601959 contribute to uh the uh information +A6Os44whp6Q-02713-00601960-00602222 uh that underpins uh the understanding +A6Os44whp6Q-02714-00602223-00602407 of certification schemes and +A6Os44whp6Q-02715-00602408-00602670 make this obviously available to the uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02716-00602671-00602743 national +A6Os44whp6Q-02717-00602744-00603087 hydrogen task force where rebecca is uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02718-00603088-00603462 is located so um we will continue to uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02719-00603463-00603766 uh undertake that role and +A6Os44whp6Q-02720-00603767-00604047 and if people have ideas that they'd +A6Os44whp6Q-02721-00604048-00604303 like to contribute we'd be most uh +A6Os44whp6Q-02722-00604304-00604647 welcoming of receiving those ideas so +A6Os44whp6Q-02723-00604648-00605007 let me now just finish up by once again +A6Os44whp6Q-02724-00605008-00605183 thanking our panelists uh rebecca +A6Os44whp6Q-02725-00605184-00605422 thompson uh emma azbert +A6Os44whp6Q-02726-00605423-00605703 penn health and john soderbaum uh i +A6Os44whp6Q-02727-00605704-00605862 think it's been a 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conservation efforts for conserving 62 +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00082-00027406-00027812 million u.s. gallons 230,000 cubic +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00083-00027813-00028110 meters of drinking water annually by +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00084-00028111-00028392 converting to recycled water for the +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00085-00028393-00028629 cooling process at the Santa Clara +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00086-00028630-00029043 California manufacturing facility the +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00087-00029044-00029352 award was presented during the 25th +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00088-00029352-00029835 annual waterers symposium WRA recognizes +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00089-00029836-00030033 projects that have advanced the +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00090-00030033-00030267 acceptance of water reuse through +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00091-00030268-00030371 education +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00092-00030372-00030665 sound science and technology using +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00093-00030666-00030968 reclamation recycling reuse or +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00094-00030969-00031242 desalination for the benefit of the +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00095-00031243-00031954 public and the environment +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00096-00031955-00032631 topic corporate responsibility +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00097-00032632-00032966 on March 4th 2010 corporate +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00098-00032967-00033207 responsibility magazine named Air +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00099-00033208-00033468 Products to its 100 best corporate +A9GCxPPfKhQ-00100-00033469-00033810 citizens list +ArITul3QoF8-00000-00000000-00000302 hi welcome to the demonstration of the +ArITul3QoF8-00001-00000303-00000518 new sink ified lesson wetland in a pan +ArITul3QoF8-00002-00000519-00000763 i'm going to show you both the online +ArITul3QoF8-00003-00000764-00001054 resource and the actual physical models +ArITul3QoF8-00004-00001055-00001244 and the lesson as we would say that we +ArITul3QoF8-00005-00001245-00001502 should do it in person so first you're +ArITul3QoF8-00006-00001503-00001766 going to get a account and a connection +ArITul3QoF8-00007-00001767-00002059 to all of the pink water think abide +ArITul3QoF8-00008-00002060-00002302 lessons and you'll see at the beginning +ArITul3QoF8-00009-00002303-00002513 of every lesson is a summary of the +ArITul3QoF8-00010-00002514-00002806 point of a lesson its objectives and +ArITul3QoF8-00011-00002807-00003076 also if it comes from from another +ArITul3QoF8-00012-00003077-00003302 lesson an older version of the lesson we +ArITul3QoF8-00013-00003303-00003467 will reference that as well so you can +ArITul3QoF8-00014-00003468-00003665 build a bridge between the old lesson +ArITul3QoF8-00015-00003665-00004004 and the new lesson go ahead so if you +ArITul3QoF8-00016-00004004-00004147 click from the summary you're going to +ArITul3QoF8-00017-00004148-00004319 first get to a slide which is going to +ArITul3QoF8-00018-00004320-00004511 be a summary slide of the knowledge +ArITul3QoF8-00019-00004512-00004694 we're trying to build and the knowledge +ArITul3QoF8-00020-00004695-00004906 if you remember is comprised of both of +ArITul3QoF8-00021-00004907-00005129 the vocabulary or the information we're +ArITul3QoF8-00022-00005130-00005293 trying to teach the topic we're trying +ArITul3QoF8-00023-00005294-00005483 to teach and the thinking structures +ArITul3QoF8-00024-00005484-00005615 we're going to use to help kids +ArITul3QoF8-00025-00005616-00005872 understand that topic in and of itself +ArITul3QoF8-00026-00005873-00006106 so you'll see here on this slide we have +ArITul3QoF8-00027-00006107-00006320 it listed as knowledge information and +ArITul3QoF8-00028-00006321-00006470 thinking and we have an overall picture +ArITul3QoF8-00029-00006470-00006791 of the map we clicked again you'll get +ArITul3QoF8-00030-00006792-00007060 one view of the entire map for all the +ArITul3QoF8-00031-00007061-00007280 parts and pieces of this lesson and this +ArITul3QoF8-00032-00007281-00007445 is something you can print and use or +ArITul3QoF8-00033-00007445-00007645 put up on your wall off your students so +ArITul3QoF8-00034-00007647-00007808 they can stay grounded in the concepts +ArITul3QoF8-00035-00007809-00007970 you're going to teach as you teach it +ArITul3QoF8-00036-00007970-00008270 the next slide is going to be the first +ArITul3QoF8-00037-00008271-00008564 of several activity slides and what I +ArITul3QoF8-00038-00008565-00008732 want you to notice is on the right hand +ArITul3QoF8-00039-00008733-00008977 side is what we call a meta map or a +ArITul3QoF8-00040-00008978-00009323 visual representation or diagram of the +ArITul3QoF8-00041-00009324-00009496 concept that we're trying to teach and +ArITul3QoF8-00042-00009497-00009721 in this case the activity is what is a +ArITul3QoF8-00043-00009722-00010046 wetland and we're going to break a +ArITul3QoF8-00044-00010047-00010274 wetland into its three major parts and +ArITul3QoF8-00045-00010275-00010535 explain that to our students you'll also +ArITul3QoF8-00046-00010536-00010678 see down on the bottom left and +ArITul3QoF8-00047-00010679-00011051 attachment which is a handout if you +ArITul3QoF8-00048-00011052-00011270 click on that and you go to that tab +ArITul3QoF8-00049-00011271-00011464 you'll see there's an actual picture of +ArITul3QoF8-00050-00011465-00011645 the model you're going to build which I +ArITul3QoF8-00051-00011646-00011873 have built free to overhear using think +ArITul3QoF8-00052-00011874-00012101 box so the first thing you would do with +ArITul3QoF8-00053-00012102-00012214 your kids is you would take a large +ArITul3QoF8-00054-00012215-00012369 thank block you would write wet +ArITul3QoF8-00055-00012370-00012614 done it we use this black tag to +ArITul3QoF8-00056-00012615-00012807 indicate that this is the concept we're +ArITul3QoF8-00057-00012808-00012960 trying to distinguish trying to +ArITul3QoF8-00058-00012961-00013149 understand deeply it's going to take +ArITul3QoF8-00059-00013150-00013322 this and you would say okay kids what is +ArITul3QoF8-00060-00013323-00013500 wetland what are the parts of a wetland +ArITul3QoF8-00061-00013501-00013607 and we're trying to get them to +ArITul3QoF8-00062-00013608-00013872 understand the part whole structure of a +ArITul3QoF8-00063-00013872-00014091 wetland and so for example we would tell +ArITul3QoF8-00064-00014091-00014265 them that a wetland in this case has +ArITul3QoF8-00065-00014266-00014516 three primary parts a land area of its +ArITul3QoF8-00066-00014518-00014844 saturated by water which also then is +ArITul3QoF8-00067-00014844-00015096 comprised of hydric soil and that that +ArITul3QoF8-00068-00015097-00015269 hydric soil means that it requires +ArITul3QoF8-00069-00015270-00015540 wetland requires distinct or unique +ArITul3QoF8-00070-00015541-00015797 aquatic types of vegetation and so the +ArITul3QoF8-00071-00015798-00015963 big idea we're trying to get across the +ArITul3QoF8-00072-00015963-00016236 kids in this activity is that wetland is +ArITul3QoF8-00073-00016237-00016599 comprised of three parts the soil land +ArITul3QoF8-00074-00016600-00016752 that area that saturated by water and +ArITul3QoF8-00075-00016753-00017049 the unique vegetation so our next +ArITul3QoF8-00076-00017050-00017339 activity is over here on the next slide +ArITul3QoF8-00077-00017340-00017600 we're going to look at examples of +ArITul3QoF8-00078-00017601-00017775 wetlands to give kids some sort of +ArITul3QoF8-00079-00017776-00017967 realistic rounding of what they might +ArITul3QoF8-00080-00017968-00018135 see in our own communities when they're +ArITul3QoF8-00081-00018136-00018336 looking for wetlands and we have a +ArITul3QoF8-00082-00018337-00018537 handout which is attached there as well +ArITul3QoF8-00083-00018538-00018744 on the bottom which we're going to give +ArITul3QoF8-00084-00018745-00019022 kids to read which basically summarizes +ArITul3QoF8-00085-00019023-00019269 four types of wetlands so you can give +ArITul3QoF8-00086-00019270-00019437 your kids that have them read it and +ArITul3QoF8-00087-00019438-00019599 then we're going to do again we're going +ArITul3QoF8-00088-00019600-00019809 to take our think box and we're going to +ArITul3QoF8-00089-00019810-00020184 make a physical model of the ideas these +ArITul3QoF8-00090-00020185-00020381 abstract ideas of wetlands so we're +ArITul3QoF8-00091-00020382-00020580 going to take a large block examples of +ArITul3QoF8-00092-00020581-00020750 wetland so we're going to say hey can +ArITul3QoF8-00093-00020751-00020897 you tell us some examples of wetlands +ArITul3QoF8-00094-00020898-00021162 based on what you read so kids will say +ArITul3QoF8-00095-00021163-00021455 something like bogs and swamps and +ArITul3QoF8-00096-00021456-00021594 they're going to also distinguish +ArITul3QoF8-00097-00021595-00021809 between two types of marshes saltwater +ArITul3QoF8-00098-00021810-00022025 and freshwater marshes and then all you +ArITul3QoF8-00099-00022026-00022178 need to do is remind them that in this +ArITul3QoF8-00100-00022179-00022412 case right now the examples of wetlands +ArITul3QoF8-00101-00022413-00022553 that we're going to talk about are these +ArITul3QoF8-00102-00022554-00022844 four things and these are also existing +ArITul3QoF8-00103-00022845-00023081 in a part whole structure that's one of +ArITul3QoF8-00104-00023082-00023196 the thinking skills are going to try it +ArITul3QoF8-00105-00023197-00023394 in emphasizing language throughout the +ArITul3QoF8-00106-00023395-00023675 lesson so our next activity slide if we +ArITul3QoF8-00107-00023676-00024012 clicked on through is really the I would +ArITul3QoF8-00108-00024013-00024174 say the heart the meat of the lesson +ArITul3QoF8-00109-00024175-00024324 conceptually the thing that we really +ArITul3QoF8-00110-00024325-00024494 want kids to understand which is the +ArITul3QoF8-00111-00024495-00024861 primary functions of a wetland and we're +ArITul3QoF8-00112-00024862-00025161 going to do two things to really convert +ArITul3QoF8-00113-00025162-00025416 eyes this idea for kids the first is +ArITul3QoF8-00114-00025417-00025549 we're going to start with +ArITul3QoF8-00115-00025550-00025825 physical izing the concept function of a +ArITul3QoF8-00116-00025826-00026080 wetland with pink blocks it's we take +ArITul3QoF8-00117-00026081-00026287 again a large block this is our big idea +ArITul3QoF8-00118-00026288-00026461 and we're going to take can you please +ArITul3QoF8-00119-00026462-00026605 you know let's talk about what are the +ArITul3QoF8-00120-00026606-00026827 main functions of a wetland and before +ArITul3QoF8-00121-00026827-00027001 that we want to emphasize at this point +ArITul3QoF8-00122-00027002-00027316 are that for example they prevent soil +ArITul3QoF8-00123-00027317-00027764 erosion and they reduce flood damage and +ArITul3QoF8-00124-00027766-00028000 equally important is that it felt that +ArITul3QoF8-00125-00028001-00028207 what waves filter pollutants out of our +ArITul3QoF8-00126-00028208-00028444 water systems and also they recharge our +ArITul3QoF8-00127-00028445-00028666 underground water supply and so what I'm +ArITul3QoF8-00128-00028667-00028825 hoping you'll see is that all of these +ArITul3QoF8-00129-00028826-00029035 ideas that we're trying to build in +ArITul3QoF8-00130-00029036-00029220 across the activities in the lesson at +ArITul3QoF8-00131-00029222-00029437 this point are existing in a part whole +ArITul3QoF8-00132-00029438-00029575 structure we really want kids to +ArITul3QoF8-00133-00029576-00029737 understand part in the whole +ArITul3QoF8-00134-00029738-00030127 relationships between ideas now the next +ArITul3QoF8-00135-00030127-00030280 thing we really wanted to go take this +ArITul3QoF8-00136-00030281-00030457 abstract concept which we've converted +ArITul3QoF8-00137-00030458-00030751 these blocks we want to really reify or +ArITul3QoF8-00138-00030752-00031195 competent in a physical model which you +ArITul3QoF8-00139-00031195-00031452 can either build ahead of the lesson or +ArITul3QoF8-00140-00031454-00031660 you can have free built depending on +ArITul3QoF8-00141-00031661-00031935 your time constraints and again on our +ArITul3QoF8-00142-00031936-00032173 online lesson you'll see that we have +ArITul3QoF8-00143-00032174-00032445 handouts prepared and attached one of +ArITul3QoF8-00144-00032447-00032664 which shows you how to build the model +ArITul3QoF8-00145-00032664-00033199 right here there it is one that shows +ArITul3QoF8-00146-00033200-00033406 you how to build the model and the other +ArITul3QoF8-00147-00033407-00033556 one which takes you step-by-step through +ArITul3QoF8-00148-00033557-00033802 the entire experiment so that you can +ArITul3QoF8-00149-00033803-00034009 replicate this with your kids over and +ArITul3QoF8-00150-00034010-00034309 over again so let's just run through the +ArITul3QoF8-00151-00034310-00034462 experiment really quickly just for fun +ArITul3QoF8-00152-00034463-00034675 so you can see what what it's meant to +ArITul3QoF8-00153-00034676-00034971 do and the first thing I would say is +ArITul3QoF8-00154-00034972-00035104 when you're about to start the +ArITul3QoF8-00155-00035105-00035451 experiment I would be very careful to +ArITul3QoF8-00156-00035452-00035758 relate this structure that you did on +ArITul3QoF8-00157-00035759-00035944 the blocks with each of the parts and +ArITul3QoF8-00158-00035945-00036148 pieces of the physical geological model +ArITul3QoF8-00159-00036149-00036364 though so for example where we have +ArITul3QoF8-00160-00036365-00036637 recharged underground water supply we've +ArITul3QoF8-00161-00036638-00036892 compromised that idea with this straw in +ArITul3QoF8-00162-00036893-00037078 both of the models which will go from +ArITul3QoF8-00163-00037079-00037324 the lake water back into the underground +ArITul3QoF8-00164-00037325-00037576 water underground growth then we also +ArITul3QoF8-00165-00037577-00037774 have filtering the pollutants which is a +ArITul3QoF8-00166-00037775-00038068 function of the wetland and reducing +ArITul3QoF8-00167-00038069-00038284 flood damage which will be particularly +ArITul3QoF8-00168-00038285-00038485 salient once you see the experiment go +ArITul3QoF8-00169-00038486-00038518 through +ArITul3QoF8-00170-00038519-00038719 we have our towels down in front of the +ArITul3QoF8-00171-00038720-00038902 lakes and also that we want to prevent +ArITul3QoF8-00172-00038903-00039691 soil erosion welcome to eat dirt okay so +ArITul3QoF8-00173-00039692-00039967 we've taken our our think block models +ArITul3QoF8-00174-00039968-00040240 and we've co-located these four ideas +ArITul3QoF8-00175-00040241-00040357 with the way that we've actually +ArITul3QoF8-00176-00040358-00040573 concretize them through this model and +ArITul3QoF8-00177-00040574-00040747 we're going to run our experiment now so +ArITul3QoF8-00178-00040748-00040909 I'm going to put these ideas over to the +ArITul3QoF8-00179-00040910-00041194 side to remind our students that these +ArITul3QoF8-00180-00041195-00041380 are the four functions of this wetland +ArITul3QoF8-00181-00041381-00041602 that we're trying to really do an +ArITul3QoF8-00182-00041603-00041833 experiment on and to keep track of so +ArITul3QoF8-00183-00041834-00041995 the first thing in our experiment after +ArITul3QoF8-00184-00041996-00042157 you've built this model is we're going +ArITul3QoF8-00185-00042158-00042373 to take some dirt so you represent of +ArITul3QoF8-00186-00042374-00042610 course or soil we're going to put it +ArITul3QoF8-00187-00042611-00042826 right on these slopes we're going to +ArITul3QoF8-00188-00042827-00043153 tamp it down just a little bit on both +ArITul3QoF8-00189-00043154-00043453 of the models and this is to illustrate +ArITul3QoF8-00190-00043454-00043783 soil erosion once we start having some +ArITul3QoF8-00191-00043784-00044050 water involved so that's the first part +ArITul3QoF8-00192-00044051-00044419 then we're going to fill our clean water +ArITul3QoF8-00193-00044420-00044713 lake and you're going to want to fill +ArITul3QoF8-00194-00044714-00045079 clean water all the way up to the edge +ArITul3QoF8-00195-00045080-00045871 of the pan just like this a little bit +ArITul3QoF8-00196-00045872-00046098 more +ArITul3QoF8-00197-00046099-00046317 and then we're going to also create our +ArITul3QoF8-00198-00046318-00046551 clean water lake on this area which it +ArITul3QoF8-00199-00046552-00047061 has a wetland in it for battle now the +ArITul3QoF8-00200-00047062-00047322 next part of this experiment is I'm +ArITul3QoF8-00201-00047323-00047436 going to make sure there's enough water +ArITul3QoF8-00202-00047437-00047969 in this lake not quite there better yeah +ArITul3QoF8-00203-00047970-00048255 so make sure this one is called make +ArITul3QoF8-00204-00048256-00048723 sure this one is full and now what we +ArITul3QoF8-00205-00048724-00049029 want to do is we want to look at the +ArITul3QoF8-00206-00049030-00049269 idea of filtering pollutants for one of +ArITul3QoF8-00207-00049270-00049539 the things so I have in here a small +ArITul3QoF8-00208-00049540-00049797 bottle of red dye to represent our +ArITul3QoF8-00209-00049798-00050022 pollutants and I'm going to we're going +ArITul3QoF8-00210-00050023-00050244 to make this water colluded which is a +ArITul3QoF8-00211-00050245-00050511 bad thing but necessary for this lesson +ArITul3QoF8-00212-00050512-00051086 and I'm going to mix it up a little bit +ArITul3QoF8-00213-00051087-00051408 just by swirling it around I might +ArITul3QoF8-00214-00051409-00051651 recommend you have some sort of a stick +ArITul3QoF8-00215-00051652-00051795 or instruments so that you don't have to +ArITul3QoF8-00216-00051796-00052004 actually stick your hand in there and +ArITul3QoF8-00217-00052004-00052236 let's just make this a little bit so +ArITul3QoF8-00218-00052237-00052541 they're about the same same color so +ArITul3QoF8-00219-00052542-00052778 let's just make sure this is mixed up +ArITul3QoF8-00220-00052779-00053064 now at the same time you're going to +ArITul3QoF8-00221-00053065-00053295 pour both pictures of polluted water +ArITul3QoF8-00222-00053296-00053547 into both Pam you can do order you can +ArITul3QoF8-00223-00053548-00053748 have your kids do it and we're just +ArITul3QoF8-00224-00053749-00053919 going to watch what happens remind the +ArITul3QoF8-00225-00053920-00054048 kids we're looking for these four +ArITul3QoF8-00226-00054049-00054288 functions of this wetland as you start +ArITul3QoF8-00227-00054289-00054491 to pour so you can do it at the same +ArITul3QoF8-00228-00054492-00055038 time just like this requires a little +ArITul3QoF8-00229-00055039-00055329 bit of coordination and make sure your +ArITul3QoF8-00230-00055329-00055476 kids are noticing what's happening in +ArITul3QoF8-00231-00055477-00055954 both of the pans at the same time and +ArITul3QoF8-00232-00055955-00056585 just do that keep going see what happens +ArITul3QoF8-00233-00056586-00056826 so as you're doing this you can lead +ArITul3QoF8-00234-00056827-00057029 their discussion having them say what's +ArITul3QoF8-00235-00057030-00057204 happening to the dirt what's happening +ArITul3QoF8-00236-00057204-00057519 to the underground water supply where +ArITul3QoF8-00237-00057520-00057755 the water is going notice also there are +ArITul3QoF8-00238-00057757-00057939 towns at the edge of both of our lakes +ArITul3QoF8-00239-00057940-00058277 and if you live there you might prefer +ArITul3QoF8-00240-00058278-00058608 to be in a different town than the 100 +ArITul3QoF8-00241-00058609-00058941 on the right now let's stop porn because +ArITul3QoF8-00242-00058941-00059119 we poured about the same amount of vote +ArITul3QoF8-00243-00059120-00059379 and so now we can illustrate to our +ArITul3QoF8-00244-00059380-00059674 students that this area which lacks a +ArITul3QoF8-00245-00059675-00059914 wetland is doing several things first +ArITul3QoF8-00246-00059915-00060127 you can see all the debris the soil +ArITul3QoF8-00247-00060128-00060255 that's in the water you can see the +ArITul3QoF8-00248-00060257-00060514 water obviously is taking out the town +ArITul3QoF8-00249-00060515-00060688 which is a bad thing you all say that +ArITul3QoF8-00250-00060689-00061045 this straws also it's just sort of a big +ArITul3QoF8-00251-00061046-00061354 mess it's going everywhere and notice +ArITul3QoF8-00252-00061354-00061501 here what the function of the wetland is +ArITul3QoF8-00253-00061502-00061657 it really holding up to what we said the +ArITul3QoF8-00254-00061658-00061858 ideas it's Phil to the Palouse there's +ArITul3QoF8-00255-00061859-00062110 no water here it's reduced blood damage +ArITul3QoF8-00256-00062111-00062359 this town is doing fine the soils still +ArITul3QoF8-00257-00062360-00062719 intact and in its going to be recharging +ArITul3QoF8-00258-00062720-00063025 the underground water supply so once +ArITul3QoF8-00259-00063026-00063190 you've done this experiment what I want +ArITul3QoF8-00260-00063191-00063340 to make sure that you do is you also +ArITul3QoF8-00261-00063341-00063480 make sure that you're checking your kids +ArITul3QoF8-00262-00063482-00063649 understanding both verbally through the +ArITul3QoF8-00263-00063650-00063814 discussion as you do the experiment +ArITul3QoF8-00264-00063815-00064150 we've also got attached to our maps +ArITul3QoF8-00265-00064151-00064372 we've got a check for understanding in a +ArITul3QoF8-00266-00064373-00064666 worksheet which you can have them fill +ArITul3QoF8-00267-00064666-00064822 out and then have a discussion around +ArITul3QoF8-00268-00064823-00065101 the experiment results worksheet and +ArITul3QoF8-00269-00065102-00065284 then the last thing we want to do after +ArITul3QoF8-00270-00065285-00065677 we've sort of deep Dee debug daardie or +ArITul3QoF8-00271-00065678-00065896 broken down the results of the +ArITul3QoF8-00272-00065897-00066064 experiment both on the worksheet in the +ArITul3QoF8-00273-00066065-00066358 discussion is we want them to do one +ArITul3QoF8-00274-00066359-00066586 last activity which is to really take +ArITul3QoF8-00275-00066587-00066820 the time to relate the importance of let +ArITul3QoF8-00276-00066821-00066994 Lance to their own selves so we've got +ArITul3QoF8-00277-00066995-00067222 another worksheet which puts them in the +ArITul3QoF8-00278-00067223-00067372 center of the worksheet and have them +ArITul3QoF8-00279-00067373-00067594 really explicate the relationship +ArITul3QoF8-00280-00067595-00067792 between them and these functions of +ArITul3QoF8-00281-00067793-00067936 wetlands and they can just fill in these +ArITul3QoF8-00282-00067937-00068197 blanks here now the last thing I just +ArITul3QoF8-00283-00068198-00068371 want to tell you or make sure that +ArITul3QoF8-00284-00068372-00068539 you've noted as you've been seeing this +ArITul3QoF8-00285-00068540-00069015 demonstration is that in in this lesson +ArITul3QoF8-00286-00069016-00069487 every slide has a map on on the right +ArITul3QoF8-00287-00069488-00069724 hand side and that really is our way of +ArITul3QoF8-00288-00069725-00069964 mapping out both the information and the +ArITul3QoF8-00289-00069965-00070189 thinking and we map them up here and +ArITul3QoF8-00290-00070190-00070402 then if you think about over here all +ArITul3QoF8-00291-00070403-00070681 these models these three models are +ArITul3QoF8-00292-00070682-00071011 really one way of activating what we've +ArITul3QoF8-00293-00071012-00071296 met directly in this lesson so we've +ArITul3QoF8-00294-00071297-00071497 mapped it we've activated with think +ArITul3QoF8-00295-00071498-00071716 blocks and then we really further sort +ArITul3QoF8-00296-00071717-00071877 of activated +ArITul3QoF8-00297-00071878-00072132 reified all of these concepts which are +ArITul3QoF8-00298-00072133-00072267 the big less than the functions of +ArITul3QoF8-00299-00072268-00072534 wetlands in this experiment and then +ArITul3QoF8-00300-00072535-00072774 where we've done is we designed this +ArITul3QoF8-00301-00072775-00073047 worksheet here as a check and we're +ArITul3QoF8-00302-00073048-00073235 checking not only that they understand +ArITul3QoF8-00303-00073236-00073509 all of the functions of the wetland and +ArITul3QoF8-00304-00073510-00073710 the parts and pieces of wetland but if +ArITul3QoF8-00305-00073711-00073896 they understand how they fought through +ArITul3QoF8-00306-00073897-00074067 this information that they've they +ArITul3QoF8-00307-00074068-00074339 distinguish between these two types of +ArITul3QoF8-00308-00074340-00074619 of geographies in it and that they +ArITul3QoF8-00309-00074620-00074859 distinguish the effect of this wetland +ArITul3QoF8-00310-00074860-00075102 on all of these factors and we really +ArITul3QoF8-00311-00075103-00075237 want them to understand how they're +ArITul3QoF8-00312-00075238-00075402 thinking these things through as we +ArITul3QoF8-00313-00075403-00075708 learn them so this is just one of many +ArITul3QoF8-00314-00075709-00076002 what we call think ified lessons we have +ArITul3QoF8-00315-00076003-00076158 a lot of them they're going to be up +ArITul3QoF8-00316-00076159-00076392 online for your use I hope that you +ArITul3QoF8-00317-00076393-00076815 really embrace them and learn great +ArITul3QoF8-00318-00076816-00076992 things with your kids and have fun so +ArITul3QoF8-00319-00076993-00077169 thanks for watching we'll see you next +ArITul3QoF8-00320-00077170-00077394 time +AsNVzuWW1_k-00000-00000053-00000407 the historiography of World War two as +AsNVzuWW1_k-00001-00000408-00000707 the study of how historians portray the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00002-00000708-00001028 causes conduct and outcomes of World War +AsNVzuWW1_k-00003-00001029-00001211 two +AsNVzuWW1_k-00004-00001212-00001472 there are different perspectives on the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00005-00001473-00001709 causes of the war the three most +AsNVzuWW1_k-00006-00001710-00001960 prominent are the Orthodox from the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00007-00001961-00002381 1950s revisionist from the 1970s and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00008-00002382-00002681 post revisionism which offers the most +AsNVzuWW1_k-00009-00002682-00003059 contemporary perspective the Orthodox +AsNVzuWW1_k-00010-00003060-00003329 perspective arose during the aftermath +AsNVzuWW1_k-00011-00003329-00003713 of the war the main historian noted for +AsNVzuWW1_k-00012-00003714-00004029 this perspective as Hugh trevor-roper +AsNVzuWW1_k-00013-00004030-00004358 Orthodox historians argue that Hitler +AsNVzuWW1_k-00014-00004359-00004628 was a master planner who intentionally +AsNVzuWW1_k-00015-00004629-00004919 started world war 2 due to his strong +AsNVzuWW1_k-00016-00004920-00005279 beliefs on fascism expansionism and the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00017-00005280-00005590 supremacy of the German state +AsNVzuWW1_k-00018-00005591-00005906 revisionist historians argue that it was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00019-00005907-00006218 an ordinary war by world standards and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00020-00006219-00006457 that Hitler was an opportunist of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00021-00006458-00006704 sort who commonly appears in world +AsNVzuWW1_k-00022-00006705-00007006 history he merely took advantage of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00023-00007008-00007340 opportunities given to him this +AsNVzuWW1_k-00024-00007341-00007738 viewpoint became popular in the 1970s +AsNVzuWW1_k-00025-00007739-00008080 especially in the revisionism of AJP +AsNVzuWW1_k-00026-00008081-00008416 Taylor throughout the course of the war +AsNVzuWW1_k-00027-00008417-00008788 orthodox historians argue as if the Axis +AsNVzuWW1_k-00028-00008789-00009083 powers were a sort of evil consuming the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00029-00009084-00009293 world with their powerful message and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00030-00009294-00009596 malignant ideology while the Allied +AsNVzuWW1_k-00031-00009597-00009896 powers were trying to protect democracy +AsNVzuWW1_k-00032-00009897-00010294 and freedom post revisionist historians +AsNVzuWW1_k-00033-00010295-00010562 of the causes such as Alan Bullock +AsNVzuWW1_k-00034-00010563-00010823 argued that the cause of the war was a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00035-00010824-00011176 matter of both the evil and the banal +AsNVzuWW1_k-00036-00011177-00011483 essentially Hitler was a strategist with +AsNVzuWW1_k-00037-00011484-00011765 clear aims and objectives that would not +AsNVzuWW1_k-00038-00011766-00012002 have been achievable without taking +AsNVzuWW1_k-00039-00012003-00012283 advantage of the opportunities given to +AsNVzuWW1_k-00040-00012284-00012662 him each perspective of world war 2 +AsNVzuWW1_k-00041-00012663-00012980 offers an insightful analysis and allows +AsNVzuWW1_k-00042-00012981-00013308 us to expand our curiosity on the blame +AsNVzuWW1_k-00043-00013309-00013679 conduct and causes of the war +AsNVzuWW1_k-00044-00013680-00014018 on the result of the war historians in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00045-00014019-00014251 countries occupied by the Nazis +AsNVzuWW1_k-00046-00014252-00014497 developed strikingly similar +AsNVzuWW1_k-00047-00014497-00014729 interpretations celebrating a victory +AsNVzuWW1_k-00048-00014730-00015013 against great odds with national +AsNVzuWW1_k-00049-00015015-00015397 liberation based on national unity that +AsNVzuWW1_k-00050-00015397-00015725 unity has repeatedly described as the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00051-00015726-00016036 greatest source of future strength +AsNVzuWW1_k-00052-00016037-00016334 historians in common glorified the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00053-00016335-00016565 resistance movement somewhat to the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00054-00016566-00016783 neglect of the invaders who actually +AsNVzuWW1_k-00055-00016784-00017168 overthrew the Nazis there is great +AsNVzuWW1_k-00056-00017169-00017528 stress on heroes including celebrities +AsNVzuWW1_k-00057-00017529-00017801 such as Charles de Gaulle Winston +AsNVzuWW1_k-00058-00017802-00018164 Churchill and Yosef Broz Tito but also +AsNVzuWW1_k-00059-00018165-00018479 countless brave partisans and members of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00060-00018480-00018806 the resistance women rarely played a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00061-00018807-00019091 role in the celebrity or the histories +AsNVzuWW1_k-00062-00019092-00019430 although since the 1990s social +AsNVzuWW1_k-00063-00019431-00019652 historians have been piecing together +AsNVzuWW1_k-00064-00019653-00020017 the role of women on the homefront in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00065-00020018-00020294 recent years much scholarly attention +AsNVzuWW1_k-00066-00020295-00020642 has focused on how popular memories were +AsNVzuWW1_k-00067-00020643-00020890 constructed through selection and how +AsNVzuWW1_k-00068-00020891-00021608 commemorations are held +AsNVzuWW1_k-00069-00021609-00022692 topic historiographical viewpoints +AsNVzuWW1_k-00070-00022693-00023376 topic self-esteem and glory +AsNVzuWW1_k-00071-00023377-00023743 Rjay Bosworth argues the major powers +AsNVzuWW1_k-00072-00023744-00024040 have experienced intellectual conflict +AsNVzuWW1_k-00073-00024041-00024357 in interpreting their wartime stories +AsNVzuWW1_k-00074-00024358-00024714 some have ignored the central issues +AsNVzuWW1_k-00075-00024715-00024996 Germany and to a much lesser extent +AsNVzuWW1_k-00076-00024997-00025336 Japan have experienced a collective self +AsNVzuWW1_k-00077-00025337-00025768 analysis but these two as well as Great +AsNVzuWW1_k-00078-00025769-00026089 Britain France Russia and Italy have +AsNVzuWW1_k-00079-00026089-00026358 largely ignored many roles and have +AsNVzuWW1_k-00080-00026360-00026632 looked instead for glory even when it +AsNVzuWW1_k-00081-00026633-00026918 was lacking +AsNVzuWW1_k-00082-00026919-00027236 you +AsNVzuWW1_k-00083-00027237-00027760 topic blame +AsNVzuWW1_k-00084-00027761-00028065 blame as the driving force during world +AsNVzuWW1_k-00085-00028066-00028392 war ii is a widely known orthodox +AsNVzuWW1_k-00086-00028393-00028786 perspective especially directly after +AsNVzuWW1_k-00087-00028787-00029139 world war ii nazi germany was held to +AsNVzuWW1_k-00088-00029140-00029496 blame for starting the war orthodox +AsNVzuWW1_k-00089-00029497-00029874 historian cited several reasons for this +AsNVzuWW1_k-00090-00029875-00030145 germany was the one who initially +AsNVzuWW1_k-00091-00030145-00030333 invaded poland against the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00092-00030334-00030618 recommendation of the Allies and also +AsNVzuWW1_k-00093-00030619-00031030 attacked the soviet union also the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00094-00031031-00031314 system of alliances between the Axis +AsNVzuWW1_k-00095-00031315-00031582 powers was one that was only meant for +AsNVzuWW1_k-00096-00031583-00032005 war the tripartite pact stated that if +AsNVzuWW1_k-00097-00032006-00032280 any country declared war on one of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00098-00032281-00032589 axis countries the other two would also +AsNVzuWW1_k-00099-00032590-00032983 declare war on those countries another +AsNVzuWW1_k-00100-00032984-00033292 reason historians saw is that the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00101-00033293-00033517 policies of Hitler were overly +AsNVzuWW1_k-00102-00033518-00033783 aggressive not only did Hitler preached +AsNVzuWW1_k-00103-00033784-00034114 war with France and the Soviet Union but +AsNVzuWW1_k-00104-00034115-00034401 he followed a careful pre-made plan of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00105-00034402-00034599 expansionism +AsNVzuWW1_k-00106-00034600-00034851 additionally the events that took place +AsNVzuWW1_k-00107-00034852-00035143 in unveiling of the war such as the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00108-00035144-00035392 remilitarization of the Rhineland and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00109-00035393-00035692 slews and the German involvement during +AsNVzuWW1_k-00110-00035693-00035982 the Spanish Civil War showed that Hitler +AsNVzuWW1_k-00111-00035983-00036274 was anticipating the possibility of war +AsNVzuWW1_k-00112-00036275-00037042 and intentionally gearing up for it +AsNVzuWW1_k-00113-00037043-00037562 topic Canada +AsNVzuWW1_k-00114-00037563-00037877 Canada deployed trained historians to +AsNVzuWW1_k-00115-00037878-00038130 Canadian military headquarters in the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00116-00038131-00038427 United Kingdom during the war and paid +AsNVzuWW1_k-00117-00038428-00038682 much attention to the chronicling of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00118-00038683-00038945 conflict not only in the words of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00119-00038946-00039180 official historians of the army +AsNVzuWW1_k-00120-00039181-00039486 historical section but also through art +AsNVzuWW1_k-00121-00039487-00039824 and trained painters the official +AsNVzuWW1_k-00122-00039825-00040070 history of the Canadian Army was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00123-00040071-00040364 undertaken after the war with an interim +AsNVzuWW1_k-00124-00040365-00040715 draft published in 1948 and three +AsNVzuWW1_k-00125-00040716-00041160 volumes in the 1950s this was in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00126-00041161-00041411 comparison to the first world wars +AsNVzuWW1_k-00127-00041412-00041717 official history only one volume of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00128-00041718-00042111 which was completed by 1939 and the full +AsNVzuWW1_k-00129-00042112-00042408 text only released after a change in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00130-00042409-00042742 authors some 40 years after the fact +AsNVzuWW1_k-00131-00042743-00043173 official histories of the RCAF and RCN +AsNVzuWW1_k-00132-00043174-00043493 in the Second World War were also a long +AsNVzuWW1_k-00133-00043494-00043805 time coming and the book arms men and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00134-00043806-00044085 government by Charles Stacy one of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00135-00044086-00044324 main contributors to the army history +AsNVzuWW1_k-00136-00044325-00044689 was published in the 1980s as in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00137-00044690-00045101 official history of the war policies of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00138-00045102-00045401 the Canadian government the performance +AsNVzuWW1_k-00139-00045402-00045701 of Canadian forces in some battles have +AsNVzuWW1_k-00140-00045702-00045995 remained controversial such as Hong Kong +AsNVzuWW1_k-00141-00045996-00046286 and Dieppe and a variety of books have +AsNVzuWW1_k-00142-00046287-00046545 been written on them from various points +AsNVzuWW1_k-00143-00046546-00046946 of view serious historians mainly +AsNVzuWW1_k-00144-00046947-00047243 scholars emerged in the years after the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00145-00047244-00047574 Second World War for most Terry cop a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00146-00047575-00047867 scholar and Dennis Whittaker a former +AsNVzuWW1_k-00147-00047868-00048478 soldier +AsNVzuWW1_k-00148-00048479-00048856 topic tailored the origins of the Second +AsNVzuWW1_k-00149-00048857-00049595 World War 1961 +AsNVzuWW1_k-00150-00049596-00050065 in 1961 English historian AJP Taylor +AsNVzuWW1_k-00151-00050066-00050365 published his most controversial book +AsNVzuWW1_k-00152-00050366-00050606 the origins of the Second World War +AsNVzuWW1_k-00153-00050607-00050867 which earned him a reputation as a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00154-00050868-00051205 revisionist that as a historian who +AsNVzuWW1_k-00155-00051207-00051571 sharply changes which party was guilty +AsNVzuWW1_k-00156-00051572-00051919 the book had a quick profound impact +AsNVzuWW1_k-00157-00051920-00052307 upsetting many readers Taylor argued +AsNVzuWW1_k-00158-00052308-00052576 against the standard thesis that the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00159-00052577-00052853 outbreak of the Second World War by +AsNVzuWW1_k-00160-00052854-00053119 which Taylor specifically meant the war +AsNVzuWW1_k-00161-00053120-00053519 that broke out in September 1939 was the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00162-00053520-00053776 result of an intentional plan on the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00163-00053777-00054212 part of guilty Adolf Hitler he began his +AsNVzuWW1_k-00164-00054213-00054446 book with the statement that too many +AsNVzuWW1_k-00165-00054447-00054704 people have accepted in critically what +AsNVzuWW1_k-00166-00054704-00055121 he called the nuremberg thesis that the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00167-00055122-00055379 Second World War was the result of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00168-00055379-00055666 criminal conspiracy by a small gang +AsNVzuWW1_k-00169-00055667-00056080 comprising Hitler and his associates he +AsNVzuWW1_k-00170-00056082-00056522 regarded the Nuremberg thesis as too +AsNVzuWW1_k-00171-00056523-00056771 convenient for too many people and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00172-00056772-00057001 claimed that it shielded the blame for +AsNVzuWW1_k-00173-00057002-00057241 the war from the leaders of other states +AsNVzuWW1_k-00174-00057242-00057529 let the German people avoid any +AsNVzuWW1_k-00175-00057529-00057809 responsibility for the war and created a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00176-00057810-00058085 situation where West Germany was a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00177-00058086-00058397 respectable cold war ally against the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00178-00058398-00058584 Soviets +AsNVzuWW1_k-00179-00058585-00058899 taylor's thesis was that hitler was not +AsNVzuWW1_k-00180-00058900-00059136 the demonical figure of popular +AsNVzuWW1_k-00181-00059137-00059415 imagination but in foreign affairs a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00182-00059416-00059792 normal German leader citing Fritz +AsNVzuWW1_k-00183-00059794-00060039 Fischer he argued that the foreign +AsNVzuWW1_k-00184-00060040-00060309 policy of the Third Reich was the same +AsNVzuWW1_k-00185-00060310-00060582 as those of the Weimar Republic and the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00186-00060583-00060978 second reich moreover in a partial break +AsNVzuWW1_k-00187-00060979-00061196 with his view of German history +AsNVzuWW1_k-00188-00061197-00061440 advocated in the course of German +AsNVzuWW1_k-00189-00061441-00061521 history +AsNVzuWW1_k-00190-00061522-00061788 he argued that Hitler was not just a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00191-00061789-00062091 normal German leader but also a normal +AsNVzuWW1_k-00192-00062091-00062448 Western leader as a normal Western +AsNVzuWW1_k-00193-00062449-00062717 leader Hitler was no better or worse +AsNVzuWW1_k-00194-00062719-00063059 than Stresemann Chamberlain or Daladier +AsNVzuWW1_k-00195-00063060-00063399 his argument was that Hitler wished to +AsNVzuWW1_k-00196-00063400-00063651 make Germany the strongest power in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00197-00063652-00064013 Europe but he did not want or plan war +AsNVzuWW1_k-00198-00064014-00064479 the outbreak of war in 1939 was an +AsNVzuWW1_k-00199-00064479-00064776 unfortunate accident caused by mistakes +AsNVzuWW1_k-00200-00064777-00065040 on everyone's part +AsNVzuWW1_k-00201-00065041-00065354 notably Taylor portrayed Hitler as a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00202-00065355-00065634 grasping opportunist with no beliefs +AsNVzuWW1_k-00203-00065635-00065877 other than the pursuit of power and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00204-00065878-00066014 anti-semitism +AsNVzuWW1_k-00205-00066015-00066339 he argued that Hitler did not possess +AsNVzuWW1_k-00206-00066340-00066618 any sort of program and his foreign +AsNVzuWW1_k-00207-00066619-00066912 policy was one of drift and seizing +AsNVzuWW1_k-00208-00066913-00067293 chances as they offered themselves he +AsNVzuWW1_k-00209-00067294-00067500 did not even consider Hitler's +AsNVzuWW1_k-00210-00067501-00067800 anti-semitism unique he argued that +AsNVzuWW1_k-00211-00067801-00068037 millions of Germans were just as +AsNVzuWW1_k-00212-00068038-00068334 ferociously anti-semitic as Hitler and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00213-00068335-00068604 there was no reason to single out Hitler +AsNVzuWW1_k-00214-00068605-00068859 for sharing the beliefs of millions of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00215-00068860-00069030 others +AsNVzuWW1_k-00216-00069031-00069293 Taylor argued that the basic problem +AsNVzuWW1_k-00217-00069294-00069569 with an inter war Europe was a flawed +AsNVzuWW1_k-00218-00069570-00069767 Treaty of Versailles that was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00219-00069768-00070037 sufficiently onerous to ensure that the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00220-00070038-00070305 overwhelming majority of Germans would +AsNVzuWW1_k-00221-00070306-00070536 always hate it but in sufficiently +AsNVzuWW1_k-00222-00070537-00070781 onerous in that it failed to destroy +AsNVzuWW1_k-00223-00070782-00071079 Germany's potential to be a great power +AsNVzuWW1_k-00224-00071080-00071547 once more in this way Taylor argued that +AsNVzuWW1_k-00225-00071548-00071817 the Versailles Treaty was destabilizing +AsNVzuWW1_k-00226-00071818-00072098 for sooner or later the innate power of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00227-00072099-00072390 Germany that the Allies had declined to +AsNVzuWW1_k-00228-00072391-00072834 destroy in 1918 1919 would inevitably +AsNVzuWW1_k-00229-00072835-00073098 reassert itself against the Versailles +AsNVzuWW1_k-00230-00073099-00073334 Treaty and the international system +AsNVzuWW1_k-00231-00073335-00073590 established by Versailles that the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00232-00073591-00073884 Germans regarded as unjust and thus had +AsNVzuWW1_k-00233-00073885-00074265 no interest in preserving though Taylor +AsNVzuWW1_k-00234-00074266-00074537 argued that the Second World War was not +AsNVzuWW1_k-00235-00074538-00074762 inevitable and that the Versailles +AsNVzuWW1_k-00236-00074763-00075025 Treaty was nowhere near as harsh as +AsNVzuWW1_k-00237-00075026-00075293 contemporaries like John Maynard Keynes +AsNVzuWW1_k-00238-00075294-00075573 believed what he regarded as a flawed +AsNVzuWW1_k-00239-00075574-00075818 peace settlement made the war more +AsNVzuWW1_k-00240-00075819-00076487 likely than not +AsNVzuWW1_k-00241-00076488-00077279 topic Battle of France 1940 +AsNVzuWW1_k-00242-00077280-00077563 the German victory over French and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00243-00077564-00077810 British forces in the Battle of France +AsNVzuWW1_k-00244-00077811-00078073 was one of the most unexpected and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00245-00078074-00078365 astonishing events of the 20th century +AsNVzuWW1_k-00246-00078366-00078653 and has generated a large popular and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00247-00078654-00079040 scholarly literature observers in 1940 +AsNVzuWW1_k-00248-00079041-00079273 found the events unexpected and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00249-00079274-00079687 earth-shaking historian Martin Alexander +AsNVzuWW1_k-00250-00079688-00079918 notes that Belgium and the Netherlands +AsNVzuWW1_k-00251-00079919-00080182 fell to the German army in a matter of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00252-00080183-00080459 days and the British were soon driven +AsNVzuWW1_k-00253-00080460-00080769 back to their home islands +AsNVzuWW1_k-00254-00080770-00081006 but it was France's downfall that +AsNVzuWW1_k-00255-00081007-00081369 stunned the watching world the shock was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00256-00081370-00081609 all the greater because the trauma was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00257-00081610-00081894 not limited to a catastrophic and deeply +AsNVzuWW1_k-00258-00081895-00082137 embarrassing defeat of her military +AsNVzuWW1_k-00259-00082138-00082455 forces it also involved the unleashing +AsNVzuWW1_k-00260-00082456-00082719 of a conservative political revolution +AsNVzuWW1_k-00261-00082720-00083097 that on the 10th of July 1940 entered +AsNVzuWW1_k-00262-00083098-00083331 the Third Republic and replaced it with +AsNVzuWW1_k-00263-00083332-00083670 the authoritarian collaborationist 8 AA +AsNVzuWW1_k-00264-00083671-00084105 francais of Vichy all this was so deeply +AsNVzuWW1_k-00265-00084106-00084327 disorienting because France had been +AsNVzuWW1_k-00266-00084328-00084741 regarded as a great power +AsNVzuWW1_k-00267-00084742-00085008 the collapse of France however was a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00268-00085009-00085320 different case a strange defeat as it +AsNVzuWW1_k-00269-00085321-00085560 was dubbed in the haunting phrase of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00270-00085561-00085854 sore bonds great medieval historian and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00271-00085855-00086136 resistance martyr Marc Bloch one of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00272-00086137-00086424 most influential books on the war was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00273-00086425-00086718 written in summer 1940 by French +AsNVzuWW1_k-00274-00086719-00087041 historian Marc Bloch late range de fête +AsNVzuWW1_k-00275-00087042-00087477 strange defeat he raised most of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00276-00087478-00087855 issues historians have debated since he +AsNVzuWW1_k-00277-00087856-00088272 blamed Frances leadership what drove our +AsNVzuWW1_k-00278-00088273-00088548 armies to disaster was the cumulative +AsNVzuWW1_k-00279-00088549-00088752 effect of a great number of different +AsNVzuWW1_k-00280-00088753-00089211 mistakes one glaring characteristic is +AsNVzuWW1_k-00281-00089212-00089568 however common to all of them our +AsNVzuWW1_k-00282-00089569-00090042 leaders were incapable of thinking in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00283-00090043-00090410 terms of a new war guilt was widespread +AsNVzuWW1_k-00284-00090411-00090888 Carol Fink argues that bloc blamed the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00285-00090889-00091143 ruling class the military and the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00286-00091144-00091413 politicians the press and the teachers +AsNVzuWW1_k-00287-00091414-00091716 for a flawed national policy and a weak +AsNVzuWW1_k-00288-00091717-00091989 defense against the Nazi menace for +AsNVzuWW1_k-00289-00091990-00092259 betraying the real France and abandoning +AsNVzuWW1_k-00290-00092260-00092652 its children Germany had won because its +AsNVzuWW1_k-00291-00092653-00092880 leaders had better understood the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00292-00092881-00093741 methods and psychology of modern combat +AsNVzuWW1_k-00293-00093742-00094338 topic eastern front +AsNVzuWW1_k-00294-00094339-00094631 it is commonly said that history is +AsNVzuWW1_k-00295-00094632-00094890 written by the victors but the exact +AsNVzuWW1_k-00296-00094891-00095136 opposite occurred in the chronicling of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00297-00095137-00095400 the Eastern Front particularly in the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00298-00095401-00095811 West Soviet secrecy and unwillingness to +AsNVzuWW1_k-00299-00095812-00096066 acknowledge events that might discredit +AsNVzuWW1_k-00300-00096067-00096318 the regime led to them revealing little +AsNVzuWW1_k-00301-00096319-00096624 information always heavily edited mark +AsNVzuWW1_k-00302-00096625-00096903 leaving Western historians to rely +AsNVzuWW1_k-00303-00096904-00097319 almost totally on German sources while +AsNVzuWW1_k-00304-00097320-00097647 still valuable sources they tended to be +AsNVzuWW1_k-00305-00097648-00097907 self-serving German generals in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00306-00097908-00098169 particular tried to distance themselves +AsNVzuWW1_k-00307-00098170-00098472 and the here as a whole away from the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00308-00098473-00098688 Nazi Party while at the same time +AsNVzuWW1_k-00309-00098689-00098912 blaming them for their defeat +AsNVzuWW1_k-00310-00098913-00099162 individuals supporting these arguments +AsNVzuWW1_k-00311-00099163-00099429 are commonly called part of the Hitler +AsNVzuWW1_k-00312-00099430-00099774 lost us the war group while this +AsNVzuWW1_k-00313-00099775-00100035 self-serving approach was noticed at the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00314-00100036-00100365 time it was still generally accepted as +AsNVzuWW1_k-00315-00100366-00100728 the closest version of the truth the end +AsNVzuWW1_k-00316-00100729-00101004 result was a commonly held picture of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00317-00101005-00101313 the here being the superior army ground +AsNVzuWW1_k-00318-00101314-00101553 down by the vast numbers of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00319-00101554-00101793 Bolshevik horde and betrayed by the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00320-00101794-00102186 stupidity of Hitler not only did this +AsNVzuWW1_k-00321-00102187-00102453 ignore Hitler's talent as a military +AsNVzuWW1_k-00322-00102454-00102702 leader an erratic Talon that was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00323-00102703-00102978 sometimes brilliantly incisive and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00324-00102979-00103241 sometimes grossly in error it also +AsNVzuWW1_k-00325-00103242-00103519 severely undervalued the remarkable +AsNVzuWW1_k-00326-00103520-00103752 transformation of the Soviet armed +AsNVzuWW1_k-00327-00103753-00104081 forces especially the Red Army from the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00328-00104082-00104490 timid conservative force of 1941 to an +AsNVzuWW1_k-00329-00104491-00104891 effective war winning organization +AsNVzuWW1_k-00330-00104892-00105149 after the fall of the Berlin Wall +AsNVzuWW1_k-00331-00105150-00105443 Western historians were suddenly exposed +AsNVzuWW1_k-00332-00105444-00105752 to the vast number of Soviet records of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00333-00105753-00106157 the time this has led to an explosion of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00334-00106158-00106459 the works on the subject most notably by +AsNVzuWW1_k-00335-00106460-00106577 Richard ovary +AsNVzuWW1_k-00336-00106578-00106970 David glance and Antony Beevor these +AsNVzuWW1_k-00337-00106971-00107236 historians revealed the brutality of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00338-00107238-00107627 Stalin's regime the recovery of the USSR +AsNVzuWW1_k-00339-00107628-00108023 and the Red Army in 1942 and the courage +AsNVzuWW1_k-00340-00108024-00108272 and abilities of the average Soviet +AsNVzuWW1_k-00341-00108273-00108566 soldier relying heavily on Soviet +AsNVzuWW1_k-00342-00108567-00108915 archival material to do so +AsNVzuWW1_k-00343-00108916-00109235 Phillips Payson O'Brien argues that it +AsNVzuWW1_k-00344-00109236-00109530 is a fallacy that the war was won on the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00345-00109531-00109932 Eastern Front he argues instead that it +AsNVzuWW1_k-00346-00109933-00110193 was won by the air sea battle which +AsNVzuWW1_k-00347-00110194-00110483 successfully immobilized the German and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00348-00110484-00110928 Japanese forces they lost mobility were +AsNVzuWW1_k-00349-00110929-00111171 unable to move munitions from the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00350-00111172-00111441 factory to the battlefield and ran out +AsNVzuWW1_k-00351-00111442-00111833 of fuel for the airplanes and ships they +AsNVzuWW1_k-00352-00111834-00112068 became highly vulnerable and were +AsNVzuWW1_k-00353-00112069-00112609 helpless +AsNVzuWW1_k-00354-00112610-00113306 topic war crimes of the vert mocked +AsNVzuWW1_k-00355-00113307-00113566 at the Nuremberg trials the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00356-00113567-00113901 Schutzstaffel SS was declared a criminal +AsNVzuWW1_k-00357-00113902-00114163 organization but the regular Armed +AsNVzuWW1_k-00358-00114164-00114559 Forces ver mocked were not although some +AsNVzuWW1_k-00359-00114560-00114841 high-ranking field marshals and generals +AsNVzuWW1_k-00360-00114842-00115135 were convicted of war crimes for issuing +AsNVzuWW1_k-00361-00115136-00115435 criminal orders Nazi war crimes were +AsNVzuWW1_k-00362-00115436-00115741 mostly blamed on the SS Totenkopf verb +AsNVzuWW1_k-00363-00115742-00116057 and a concentration camp guards and the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00364-00116058-00116386 Einsatzgruppen death squads overlooking +AsNVzuWW1_k-00365-00116388-00116662 the participation of ver mock soldiers +AsNVzuWW1_k-00366-00116663-00117004 in the Holocaust more recent scholarship +AsNVzuWW1_k-00367-00117005-00117422 has challenged this view an exhibition +AsNVzuWW1_k-00368-00117423-00117647 on the war crimes of the ver macht +AsNVzuWW1_k-00369-00117648-00118319 sparked demonstrations +AsNVzuWW1_k-00370-00118320-00118848 topic Davies +AsNVzuWW1_k-00371-00118849-00119421 Europe at war 1939 to 1945 no simple +AsNVzuWW1_k-00372-00119422-00119613 victory was written by the English +AsNVzuWW1_k-00373-00119614-00119967 historian Norman Davies best known for +AsNVzuWW1_k-00374-00119968-00120345 his books on Poland Davies argues +AsNVzuWW1_k-00375-00120346-00120615 although the war was over for 60 years +AsNVzuWW1_k-00376-00120616-00120894 that a number of misconceptions about +AsNVzuWW1_k-00377-00120895-00121191 the war are still common and then sets +AsNVzuWW1_k-00378-00121192-00121539 out to correct them two of his main +AsNVzuWW1_k-00379-00121540-00121776 claims are that contrary to popular +AsNVzuWW1_k-00380-00121777-00122084 belief in the West the dominant part of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00381-00122085-00122319 the conflict took place in Eastern +AsNVzuWW1_k-00382-00122320-00122583 Europe between the two totalitarian +AsNVzuWW1_k-00383-00122583-00122868 systems of the century communism and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00384-00122869-00123270 Nazism and that Stalin's USSR was as bad +AsNVzuWW1_k-00385-00123271-00123672 as Hitler's Germany the subtitle no +AsNVzuWW1_k-00386-00123673-00123963 simple victory does therefore not just +AsNVzuWW1_k-00387-00123964-00124208 refer to the losses and suffering the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00388-00124209-00124491 Allies had to endure in order to defeat +AsNVzuWW1_k-00389-00124492-00124782 the enemy but also the difficult moral +AsNVzuWW1_k-00390-00124783-00125091 choice the Western democracies had to +AsNVzuWW1_k-00391-00125092-00125340 make when aligning themselves with one +AsNVzuWW1_k-00392-00125341-00125598 criminal regime in order to defeat +AsNVzuWW1_k-00393-00125599-00126177 another +AsNVzuWW1_k-00394-00126178-00126796 topic Holocaust denial +AsNVzuWW1_k-00395-00126797-00127138 a field of pseudo history-- has emerged +AsNVzuWW1_k-00396-00127139-00127423 which attempts to deny the existence of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00397-00127424-00127714 the Holocaust and the mass extermination +AsNVzuWW1_k-00398-00127715-00128125 of Jews in german-occupied Europe the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00399-00128126-00128368 proponents of the belief known as +AsNVzuWW1_k-00400-00128369-00128820 Holocaust deniers or negation ists are +AsNVzuWW1_k-00401-00128821-00129190 usually associated with neo Nazism and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00402-00129191-00129475 their views are rejected by professional +AsNVzuWW1_k-00403-00129476-00130122 historians +AsNVzuWW1_k-00404-00130123-00130822 topic german-occupied Europe +AsNVzuWW1_k-00405-00130823-00131112 the Nazis perfected the art of stealing +AsNVzuWW1_k-00406-00131113-00131391 draining the local economies to the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00407-00131392-00131650 maximum or beyond so that overall +AsNVzuWW1_k-00408-00131651-00131937 production fell in all occupied +AsNVzuWW1_k-00409-00131938-00132246 countries resistance movements sprang up +AsNVzuWW1_k-00410-00132247-00132591 the Germans tried to infiltrate and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00411-00132592-00132840 suppress them but after the war they +AsNVzuWW1_k-00412-00132841-00133239 emerged as political actors the local +AsNVzuWW1_k-00413-00133240-00133486 communists were especially active in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00414-00133487-00133791 promoting resistance movement as was the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00415-00133792-00134088 British Special Operations Executive s +AsNVzuWW1_k-00416-00134089-00134698 OE +AsNVzuWW1_k-00417-00134699-00135133 topic common themes heroic liberation +AsNVzuWW1_k-00418-00135134-00135593 from Nazis +AsNVzuWW1_k-00419-00135594-00135771 almost all net +AsNVzuWW1_k-00420-00135772-00135966 channel narratives of the Second World +AsNVzuWW1_k-00421-00135967-00136341 War ranging from historiography in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00422-00136342-00136635 liberal democracies to that of communist +AsNVzuWW1_k-00423-00136636-00136905 dictatorship fit the same european +AsNVzuWW1_k-00424-00136906-00137262 pattern the french german historian +AsNVzuWW1_k-00425-00137263-00137571 Etienne Francois has identified the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00426-00137572-00137916 common themes as paraphrased by Johanna +AsNVzuWW1_k-00427-00137917-00138422 Selene fundamental to them all +AsNVzuWW1_k-00428-00138423-00138874 dot was the victory over Nazi Germany in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00429-00138875-00139145 descriptions of the end of the war and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00430-00139146-00139462 the liberation national unity was often +AsNVzuWW1_k-00431-00139463-00139864 stressed this newly won Liberty opened a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00432-00139865-00140069 door to the future and marked the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00433-00140070-00140333 beginning of a new bright chapter in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00434-00140334-00140735 history a common characteristic in most +AsNVzuWW1_k-00435-00140736-00140941 national narratives was the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00436-00140942-00141163 glorification of the resistance movement +AsNVzuWW1_k-00437-00141164-00141407 while in countries that had been +AsNVzuWW1_k-00438-00141408-00141698 liberated by foreign troops domestic +AsNVzuWW1_k-00439-00141699-00142038 efforts tended to be highly praised in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00440-00142039-00142418 addition the hero ization of the war was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00441-00142419-00142646 another common denominator in the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00442-00142647-00142922 narratives not only were charismatic +AsNVzuWW1_k-00443-00142923-00143140 victors such as Charles DeGaulle +AsNVzuWW1_k-00444-00143141-00143475 Winston Churchill and Yosef Broz Tito +AsNVzuWW1_k-00445-00143476-00143786 designated as heroes but also brave +AsNVzuWW1_k-00446-00143787-00144586 partisans and members of the resistance +AsNVzuWW1_k-00447-00144587-00145111 topic Denmark +AsNVzuWW1_k-00448-00145112-00145405 beginning with the German occupation of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00449-00145406-00145855 Denmark in 1940 and lasting until 1943 +AsNVzuWW1_k-00450-00145856-00146221 the Danish government had a policy of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00451-00146222-00146743 cooperation doll with Nazi Germany this +AsNVzuWW1_k-00452-00146744-00147010 meant the Danish government tried to do +AsNVzuWW1_k-00453-00147011-00147220 a balancing act of officially +AsNVzuWW1_k-00454-00147221-00147511 cooperating with the Nazis while at the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00455-00147512-00147805 same time also working against them in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00456-00147806-00148180 aiding the Danish resistance due to this +AsNVzuWW1_k-00457-00148181-00148540 cooperation Adolf Hitler labeled Denmark +AsNVzuWW1_k-00458-00148541-00148924 as the model Protectorate when the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00459-00148925-00149362 policy of cooperation collapsed in 1943 +AsNVzuWW1_k-00460-00149363-00149710 the resistance helped about 7,000 Jews +AsNVzuWW1_k-00461-00149711-00150118 and about 500 non-jewish spouses of Jews +AsNVzuWW1_k-00462-00150119-00150474 escaped across Orson to neutral Sweden +AsNVzuWW1_k-00463-00150475-00150838 this operation is known as the rescue of +AsNVzuWW1_k-00464-00150839-00151126 the Danish Jews and was a great source +AsNVzuWW1_k-00465-00151127-00151459 of frustration for the Nazis Denmark has +AsNVzuWW1_k-00466-00151460-00151723 a large popular literature on the war +AsNVzuWW1_k-00467-00151724-00152008 years which has helped shaped national +AsNVzuWW1_k-00468-00152009-00152395 identity and politics scholars have also +AsNVzuWW1_k-00469-00152396-00152731 been active but have much less influence +AsNVzuWW1_k-00470-00152732-00152946 on this topic +AsNVzuWW1_k-00471-00152947-00153219 after the liberation two conflicting +AsNVzuWW1_k-00472-00153220-00153558 narratives emerged a consensus narrative +AsNVzuWW1_k-00473-00153559-00153932 told how danes were united in resistance +AsNVzuWW1_k-00474-00153933-00154268 however there was also a revisionist +AsNVzuWW1_k-00475-00154269-00154536 interpretation which paid attention to +AsNVzuWW1_k-00476-00154537-00154776 the resistance of most Danes but +AsNVzuWW1_k-00477-00154777-00155022 presented Danish establishment as a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00478-00155023-00155445 collaborating enemy of Danish values the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00479-00155446-00155804 revisionist version from the 1960s was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00480-00155805-00156065 successfully adopted by the political +AsNVzuWW1_k-00481-00156066-00156387 left for two specific goals to blemish +AsNVzuWW1_k-00482-00156388-00156722 the establishment now allied with the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00483-00156723-00157115 imperialist United States and to argue +AsNVzuWW1_k-00484-00157116-00157344 against Danish membership in the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00485-00157345-00157809 European community from the 1980s the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00486-00157810-00158049 right started to use also used +AsNVzuWW1_k-00487-00158050-00158432 revisionism to attack asylum legislation +AsNVzuWW1_k-00488-00158433-00158844 finally around 2003 Liberal prime +AsNVzuWW1_k-00489-00158845-00159164 minister anders fogh rasmussen started +AsNVzuWW1_k-00490-00159165-00159428 using it as his basic narrative of the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00491-00159429-00159702 war years partly to legitimize his +AsNVzuWW1_k-00492-00159703-00159957 government's decision to join the war +AsNVzuWW1_k-00493-00159958-00160476 against Iraq in 2003 the occupation has +AsNVzuWW1_k-00494-00160477-00160743 thus played a central role in Danish +AsNVzuWW1_k-00495-00160744-00161133 political culture since 1945 although +AsNVzuWW1_k-00496-00161134-00161394 the role of professional scholars has +AsNVzuWW1_k-00497-00161395-00162010 been marginal +AsNVzuWW1_k-00498-00162011-00162859 topic France +AsNVzuWW1_k-00499-00162860-00163396 topic resistance +AsNVzuWW1_k-00500-00163397-00163720 the heroism of the French Resistance has +AsNVzuWW1_k-00501-00163721-00163993 always been a favoured topic in France +AsNVzuWW1_k-00502-00163994-00164269 and Britain with new books in English +AsNVzuWW1_k-00503-00164270-00164624 appearing regularly +AsNVzuWW1_k-00504-00164625-00164920 you +AsNVzuWW1_k-00505-00164921-00165403 topic this she +AsNVzuWW1_k-00506-00165404-00165799 after 1945 the French ignored or +AsNVzuWW1_k-00507-00165800-00166018 downplayed the role of the marshal +AsNVzuWW1_k-00508-00166019-00166387 Petain puppet government since the late +AsNVzuWW1_k-00509-00166388-00166663 20th century it has become a major +AsNVzuWW1_k-00510-00166664-00167298 research topic +AsNVzuWW1_k-00511-00167299-00167889 topic collaboration +AsNVzuWW1_k-00512-00167890-00168154 collaboration with the Germans was long +AsNVzuWW1_k-00513-00168155-00168430 denied by the French but since the late +AsNVzuWW1_k-00514-00168431-00168727 20th century has generated a large +AsNVzuWW1_k-00515-00168728-00169316 literature +AsNVzuWW1_k-00516-00169317-00169936 topic civilian conditions +AsNVzuWW1_k-00517-00169937-00170275 the roles of civilians forced laborers +AsNVzuWW1_k-00518-00170276-00170636 and pals has a large literature +AsNVzuWW1_k-00519-00170637-00171370 there are numerous studies of women +AsNVzuWW1_k-00520-00171371-00171967 topic alsace-lorraine +AsNVzuWW1_k-00521-00171968-00172306 Germany integrated alsace-lorraine into +AsNVzuWW1_k-00522-00172307-00172786 its German Empire in 1871 France +AsNVzuWW1_k-00523-00172787-00173236 recovered it in 1918 Germany was again +AsNVzuWW1_k-00524-00173237-00173707 in occupation 1942 45 there was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00525-00173708-00174055 widespread material damage the first +AsNVzuWW1_k-00526-00174056-00174361 wave of destruction in 1940 was +AsNVzuWW1_k-00527-00174362-00174673 inflicted by German forces the second +AsNVzuWW1_k-00528-00174674-00175102 was caused by Allied bombers in 1944 and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00529-00175103-00175330 the final wave surrounded bitter +AsNVzuWW1_k-00530-00175331-00175591 fighting between German occupiers and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00531-00175592-00176633 American liberators in 1944 1945 +AsNVzuWW1_k-00532-00176634-00177189 topic Netherlands +AsNVzuWW1_k-00533-00177190-00177519 Dutch historiography of World War two +AsNVzuWW1_k-00534-00177520-00177767 focused on the government in exile +AsNVzuWW1_k-00535-00177768-00178116 German repression Dutch resistance the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00536-00178117-00178581 hunger winter of 1944 45 and above all +AsNVzuWW1_k-00537-00178582-00178961 the Holocaust the economy was largely +AsNVzuWW1_k-00538-00178962-00179426 neglected the economy was robust in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00539-00179427-00179565 1940-41 +AsNVzuWW1_k-00540-00179566-00179822 then deteriorated rapidly as +AsNVzuWW1_k-00541-00179823-00180125 exploitation produced low productivity +AsNVzuWW1_k-00542-00180126-00180852 impoverishment and hunger +AsNVzuWW1_k-00543-00180853-00181393 topic Norway +AsNVzuWW1_k-00544-00181394-00181726 the memory of the war seared norwegians +AsNVzuWW1_k-00545-00181727-00182079 and shaped national policies +AsNVzuWW1_k-00546-00182080-00182385 economic issues remain an important +AsNVzuWW1_k-00547-00182386-00182910 topic +AsNVzuWW1_k-00548-00182911-00183425 topic Poland +AsNVzuWW1_k-00549-00183426-00183878 on August 1st 1944 the clandestine +AsNVzuWW1_k-00550-00183879-00184184 Polish Home Army owing allegiance to the +AsNVzuWW1_k-00551-00184185-00184508 exiled government in London initiated an +AsNVzuWW1_k-00552-00184509-00184832 uprising in Warsaw against the occupying +AsNVzuWW1_k-00553-00184833-00185232 Germans there is a large literature in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00554-00185233-00185579 several languages the warsaw rising +AsNVzuWW1_k-00555-00185580-00186113 museum wrm opened in warsaw in 2004 to +AsNVzuWW1_k-00556-00186114-00186395 commemorate it Polish Jews made up about +AsNVzuWW1_k-00557-00186396-00186773 half of Holocaust victims there is a +AsNVzuWW1_k-00558-00186774-00187049 large literature on the Holocaust in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00559-00187050-00187337 Poland and its memory and memorials and +AsNVzuWW1_k-00560-00187338-00187646 also the Jewish uprising in the Warsaw +AsNVzuWW1_k-00561-00187647-00188425 Ghetto in 1943 +AsNVzuWW1_k-00562-00188426-00189049 topic USSR +AsNVzuWW1_k-00563-00189050-00189358 popular behavior has been explored in +AsNVzuWW1_k-00564-00189359-00189646 viola Russia under the Germans using +AsNVzuWW1_k-00565-00189647-00189873 oral history letters of complaint +AsNVzuWW1_k-00566-00189874-00190239 memoirs and reports made by the Soviet +AsNVzuWW1_k-00567-00190240-00190728 secret police and by the Communist Party +AsNVzuWW1_k-00568-00190729-00191139 equals equals women +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00000-00000021-00000430 [Music] +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00001-00000431-00000526 otan +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00002-00000527-00000732 outreach and technical assistance +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00003-00000733-00001491 [Music] +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00004-00001492-00002023 network +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00005-00002023-00002175 hello everyone my name is marjorie +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00006-00002176-00002383 olavidis i am a project specialist for +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00007-00002384-00002542 the outreach and technical assistance +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00008-00002543-00002734 network also known as otan +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00009-00002735-00002887 and i'd like to welcome you all to this +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00010-00002888-00003071 month's otan tech talk +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00011-00003072-00003238 our speaker today is penny pearson our +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00012-00003239-00003422 distance learning coordinator with otan +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00013-00003423-00003590 and her topic today is licensing and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00014-00003592-00003686 copyright +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00015-00003688-00004022 go ahead penny thank you marjorie as the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00016-00004023-00004247 slide indicates my name is penny pearson +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00017-00004248-00004406 and i am a coordinator for distance +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00018-00004407-00004591 learning projects with otan +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00019-00004592-00004775 and the certificate on this page is just +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00020-00004776-00004927 a way to show that i am +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00021-00004928-00005143 really deeply interested in this topic +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00022-00005144-00005311 of licensing your work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00023-00005312-00005454 you'll learn more about this +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00024-00005455-00005638 organization in just a minute but +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00025-00005639-00005870 some of the other items on the screen +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00026-00005871-00006054 also indicate that i am +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00027-00006055-00006286 originally a student of distance +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00028-00006287-00006454 learning a way way +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00029-00006455-00006742 way long time ago i finished my high +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00030-00006743-00006806 school +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00031-00006808-00007142 through snail mail believe it or not and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00032-00007143-00007423 fast forward a bit and i spent 12 years +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00033-00007423-00007519 in the classroom +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00034-00007520-00007791 as a career tech ed instructor and then +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00035-00007792-00007951 for the last 14 years +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00036-00007952-00008278 i have been working here at otan +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00037-00008279-00008463 and as the title of the tech talk is +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00038-00008464-00008671 we're doing dealing with licensing +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00039-00008672-00008855 but we need to talk a little bit about +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00040-00008856-00009095 open educational resources +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00041-00009096-00009463 and copyright so our next slide is what +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00042-00009464-00009574 are oer +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00043-00009575-00009719 and i'm going to go ahead and read the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00044-00009720-00009927 slide normally i don't do that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00045-00009928-00010174 but i do it also for our folks that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00046-00010175-00010342 might be accessing this +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00047-00010343-00010583 using accessibility tools so i'm going +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00048-00010584-00010646 to read it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00049-00010647-00010935 okay what are oer open educational +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00050-00010936-00011031 resources +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00051-00011032-00011351 oer are teaching learning and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00052-00011352-00011663 research resources that reside in the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00053-00011664-00011767 public domain +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00054-00011768-00012031 or have been released under an +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00055-00012032-00012303 intellectual property license +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00056-00012304-00012710 that permits sharing accessing +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00057-00012711-00012991 repurposing including for commercial +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00058-00012991-00013102 purposes +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00059-00013103-00013486 and collaborating with others okay now +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00060-00013487-00013671 this description that i just read off +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00061-00013672-00013955 the slide is actually taken from the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00062-00013956-00014103 2010 +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00063-00014104-00014358 uh national education technology plan +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00064-00014359-00014519 now there is a new plan out +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00065-00014519-00014766 and ironically enough they don't explain +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00066-00014768-00015007 what oers are anymore with a definition +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00067-00015008-00015094 like this +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00068-00015095-00015430 it's basically assumed that everybody +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00069-00015431-00015566 knows what this is +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00070-00015568-00015838 so now that we've talked about what is +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00071-00015840-00016063 an oer i want you to be thinking about +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00072-00016063-00016199 those phrases +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00073-00016200-00016511 that are in bold right reside in the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00074-00016512-00016655 public domain +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00075-00016656-00016847 have been released under an intellectual +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00076-00016848-00017055 property license permit +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00077-00017056-00017279 sharing accessing repurposing +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00078-00017280-00017463 collaborating with others +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00079-00017464-00017639 and the reason why we do that is now +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00080-00017640-00017799 that we know what uh what +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00081-00017800-00018143 are oer by definition the next question +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00082-00018144-00018263 on the slide is what +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00083-00018264-00018591 can be an open educational resource +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00084-00018592-00018847 now the images on this slide represents +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00085-00018848-00019127 all the types of things that can be +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00086-00019128-00019463 an open educational resource podcasts +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00087-00019464-00019830 audio files music simulation +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00088-00019831-00020150 games apps lesson plans +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00089-00020151-00020367 pretty much anything that can be in a +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00090-00020368-00020622 digital or even printed mode +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00091-00020623-00020958 can be an open educational +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00092-00020959-00021319 a resource now as we move on i'm going +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00093-00021320-00021550 to say remember that you need to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00094-00021551-00021903 check to make sure that some items like +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00095-00021904-00021950 this +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00096-00021951-00022255 are licensed correctly and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00097-00022256-00022567 before we can go into that licensing +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00098-00022568-00022827 we need to talk a little bit about +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00099-00022828-00023007 copyrights +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00100-00023008-00023327 and open licensing so the next slide +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00101-00023328-00023519 with these two circles on it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00102-00023520-00023883 is labeled public domain versus open +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00103-00023884-00024214 license now when we're talking about +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00104-00024215-00024311 these two things +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00105-00024312-00024455 we're going to keep in mind that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00106-00024456-00024639 copyright is that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00107-00024640-00025014 whole idea that all rights +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00108-00025015-00025239 are reserved okay now in my humble +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00109-00025240-00025335 opinion +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00110-00025336-00025622 the past actions of intermediaries like +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00111-00025623-00025718 lawyers and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00112-00025719-00025983 agents and others have muddied the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00113-00025983-00026167 waters on what the terms +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00114-00026168-00026502 copyright really were meant to be now +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00115-00026504-00026758 we're under this high level of +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00116-00026760-00026895 restriction that all +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00117-00026895-00027255 rights reserved everything every use +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00118-00027256-00027599 is restricted in all ways unless +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00119-00027600-00027783 permission is granted +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00120-00027783-00028143 from the copyright holder now +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00121-00028144-00028455 the opposite of copyrights is public +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00122-00028456-00028543 domain +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00123-00028544-00028855 and as this little circle depicts it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00124-00028856-00029223 public domain is the release or waiver +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00125-00029224-00029535 of any claims of ownership +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00126-00029536-00029895 or rights all right so now most people +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00127-00029895-00029927 see +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00128-00029927-00030207 public domain as the only way things get +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00129-00030208-00030374 into public domain is that they're +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00130-00030375-00030423 really +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00131-00030424-00030670 old right they've they've been published +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00132-00030672-00030814 a hundred years ago +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00133-00030816-00031135 well that's not entirely true as a +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00134-00031136-00031318 copyright +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00135-00031319-00031631 holder you have the right to release +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00136-00031632-00031918 those rights to release that item into +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00137-00031919-00032095 the public domain +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00138-00032095-00032407 all right now in doing that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00139-00032408-00032702 we can find public domain information or +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00140-00032703-00032927 public domain assets all over the place +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00141-00032928-00033207 we'll talk about that a little bit later +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00142-00033208-00033511 now the other side of that of +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00143-00033512-00033959 an open license is that the copyrights +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00144-00033960-00034262 are still held or owned +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00145-00034263-00034551 by the person who created it copyright +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00146-00034552-00034759 ownership is retained +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00147-00034760-00034999 and what happens is the author or the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00148-00035000-00035102 creator +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00149-00035103-00035502 is granting broad rights to the public +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00150-00035503-00035830 on how they can use that work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00151-00035831-00036039 how they can reproduce it or how they +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00152-00036040-00036143 can distribute +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00153-00036144-00036446 that creative work now +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00154-00036447-00036646 because this is so important public +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00155-00036647-00036839 domain is the release of +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00156-00036840-00037167 all copyrights you have released it to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00157-00037168-00037271 the commons +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00158-00037272-00037639 whereas an open license says i still own +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00159-00037640-00037830 the copyrights on this +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00160-00037831-00038167 but i am going to release those rights +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00161-00038168-00038430 with certain restrictions or not you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00162-00038431-00038639 have that choice +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00163-00038640-00038983 so we're going to take a look at what +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00164-00038984-00039311 makes an open license remember we talked +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00165-00039312-00039559 about open educational resources and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00166-00039560-00039702 what they can be +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00167-00039703-00039974 but now let's talk about what are the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00168-00039975-00040071 actual +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00169-00040072-00040399 licenses how are they made up basically +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00170-00040400-00040695 there are five elements to an open +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00171-00040696-00040999 license this slide talks about the five +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00172-00041000-00041462 r's of open those five r's are retain +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00173-00041463-00041743 the right to make own and control copies +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00174-00041744-00041902 of the content +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00175-00041903-00042246 to reuse it the right to use the content +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00176-00042247-00042487 in a wide range of ways +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00177-00042488-00042807 revise it the right to adapt adjust +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00178-00042808-00043135 modify or alter the content itself +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00179-00043136-00043455 you can remix it the right to combine +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00180-00043456-00043535 the original +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00181-00043536-00043862 revised content with other material to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00182-00043863-00044062 create something new +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00183-00044063-00044383 the right to redistribute that material +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00184-00044384-00044567 the right to share copies of the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00185-00044568-00044711 original content +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00186-00044712-00045007 your revisions or your remixes with +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00187-00045008-00045102 others +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00188-00045103-00045390 okay now to read more about defining +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00189-00045391-00045479 open +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00190-00045480-00045743 i've put the link in the slide to david +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00191-00045744-00045967 wiley's blog post and david wiley is +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00192-00045968-00046118 considered kind of the father +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00193-00046119-00046451 of open licensing and that's at +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00194-00046452-00046671 opencontent.org +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00195-00046672-00046886 definition and you can read more about +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00196-00046887-00046974 how david +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00197-00046975-00047358 wiley looks at open licensing +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00198-00047359-00047662 now i'm going to show a little something +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00199-00047663-00047855 that will hopefully help everybody to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00200-00047856-00048102 see it from a broader perspective +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00201-00048103-00048407 of the licensing side okay we've talked +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00202-00048408-00048543 about copyrights we've +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00203-00048544-00048807 talked about public domain we've talked +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00204-00048808-00048902 about the five +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00205-00048903-00049279 r's of oh how does that really apply +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00206-00049280-00049551 so the next slide is what is an open +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00207-00049552-00049607 license +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00208-00049608-00049767 so hopefully you have your speakers on +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00209-00049768-00049927 and up and i'm going to go ahead and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00210-00049928-00051026 play this video +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00211-00051027-00051246 [Music] +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00212-00051247-00051446 educational resources are automatically +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00213-00051447-00051623 copyrighted when you create them +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00214-00051624-00051870 under u.s copyright law so let's say 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superhero t-shirt and so licenses are +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00231-00054879-00055063 part of the fabric of copyright law +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00232-00055064-00055335 but all of those licenses are negotiated +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00233-00055336-00055463 one-to-one +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00234-00055464-00055775 so when a company wants to use +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00235-00055776-00056054 a text or a song or a character or part +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00236-00056055-00056215 of a movie that belongs to a different +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00237-00056216-00056319 rights holder +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00238-00056320-00056479 they have to have their lawyers sit down +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00239-00056479-00056663 with the other lawyers and it takes +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00240-00056664-00056887 time and money so adding a creative +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00241-00056888-00057111 commons license to a work is like saying +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00242-00057112-00057447 hey this resource is free for you to use +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00243-00057448-00057663 however you want it's the basic creative 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original creator +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00259-00060839-00061071 that's really easy to do it also allows +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00260-00061072-00061238 you to remix those works +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00261-00061239-00061479 with other openly licensed works in a +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00262-00061479-00061623 very easy way +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00263-00061624-00061887 and teachers have always given each +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00264-00061888-00061975 other materials +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00265-00061976-00062199 and if you know the person you're +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00266-00062200-00062350 sharing the materials with you can give +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00267-00062351-00062471 them permission +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00268-00062472-00062630 but when you want to share materials +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00269-00062632-00062782 with teachers across the country and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00270-00062783-00062975 potentially teachers across the world +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00271-00062976-00063166 you need a standardized way to do that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00272-00063167-00063287 and that's what the creative commons 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+Axzm-ZsOAiy-00288-00066927-00067223 and the graphic shows two parts a green +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00289-00067224-00067303 zone +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00290-00067304-00067599 and it's labeled at the top as most open +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00291-00067600-00067750 and then the yellow +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00292-00067751-00068094 zone at the bottom labeled as least open +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00293-00068095-00068311 now the licenses that fall within the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00294-00068312-00068423 green zone +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00295-00068424-00068623 they're considered the most open and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00296-00068624-00068750 that means +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00297-00068751-00069038 that they offer the most flexibility for +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00298-00069039-00069135 the five +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00299-00069136-00069463 r's remember the five r's retain +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00300-00069464-00069847 reuse revise remix and redistribute +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00301-00069848-00070135 that means if you use that license all +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00302-00070136-00070231 of those five 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+Axzm-ZsOAiy-00318-00073512-00073647 restrictions +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00319-00073648-00074023 on that work so creative commons +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00320-00074024-00074303 is a way to license work with six +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00321-00074304-00074359 different +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00322-00074360-00074662 licenses this license then gives both +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00323-00074663-00074775 the creator +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00324-00074776-00075175 and the user the freedom to license and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00325-00075176-00075287 use work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00326-00075288-00075487 found out in the wild or through other +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00327-00075488-00075623 resources +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00328-00075624-00075862 but you you see all these icons what do +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00329-00075863-00076087 each of these licenses mean +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00330-00076088-00076423 so this is a license icon chart it shows +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00331-00076424-00076487 the six +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00332-00076488-00076919 licenses and what you would likely see +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00333-00076920-00077206 on a web page or on a document that will +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00334-00077207-00077294 tell you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00335-00077295-00077615 how these materials can be used once you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00336-00077616-00077855 are exposed to these icons +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00337-00077856-00078167 you'll start to see them more and more +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00338-00078168-00078535 they're on web pages presentations +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00339-00078536-00078838 like this one images +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00340-00078839-00079247 videos podcasts so try to become as +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00341-00079248-00079503 familiar with these icons as you can +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00342-00079504-00079687 so that you know when you find a +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00343-00079688-00079919 resource you will feel comfortable +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00344-00079920-00079999 understanding +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00345-00080000-00080294 how the author wishes those works to be +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00346-00080295-00080431 used +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00347-00080432-00080662 of course if you're unsure about the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00348-00080663-00080767 license that it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00349-00080768-00080982 will allow you to do what you want to do +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00350-00080983-00081150 with that resource +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00351-00081151-00081462 the best advice is ask +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00352-00081463-00081831 okay send an email but ask now just +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00353-00081832-00082111 as a note under each of those small +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00354-00082112-00082215 circles +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00355-00082216-00082431 there are two letters under each of +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00356-00082432-00082550 those icons +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00357-00082551-00082815 and each icon that each circle has a +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00358-00082816-00082982 different image in it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00359-00082983-00083326 so the letters b y +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00360-00083327-00083647 s a n c and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00361-00083648-00083999 n d each proclaims a specific +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00362-00084000-00084343 use or restriction right +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00363-00084344-00084526 so we're going to go and actually look +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00364-00084527-00084775 at what are these different +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00365-00084776-00085175 uses for these six licenses +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00366-00085176-00085415 so our next slide is actually another +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00367-00085416-00085494 little chart +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00368-00085495-00085871 dividing out these six licenses again +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00369-00085872-00086111 allowing permissions for the works that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00370-00086112-00086255 you create +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00371-00086256-00086526 or that you wish to use so we're going +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00372-00086527-00086559 to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00373-00086560-00086887 review these licenses carefully and then +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00374-00086888-00086926 you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00375-00086927-00087150 can understand does the license permit +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00376-00087151-00087391 you to do what you want to do with it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00377-00087392-00087638 revise it maybe translate it into +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00378-00087639-00087799 another language +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00379-00087800-00088071 add more to it take out some parts cut +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00380-00088072-00088279 it into smaller pieces +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00381-00088280-00088623 as a creator you must decide if a user +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00382-00088624-00088879 can change your work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00383-00088880-00089167 or use it to commercialize it in some +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00384-00089168-00089247 way +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00385-00089248-00089487 this is typically a question that causes +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00386-00089488-00089662 a great deal of consternation amongst +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00387-00089663-00089775 individuals who create +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00388-00089776-00090126 oer but believe me many artists and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00389-00090127-00090231 entrepreneurs +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00390-00090232-00090550 use creative commons and they use it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00391-00090551-00090743 successfully to make +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00392-00090744-00091062 quite a lot of money all right +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00393-00091063-00091311 and i will provide some links to that in +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00394-00091312-00091471 the resources +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00395-00091472-00091735 but it is an important consideration +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00396-00091736-00091950 remember that the author still retains +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00397-00091951-00092159 the copyrights on the work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00398-00092160-00092423 and most producers who would would seek +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00399-00092424-00092599 permission to use those materials +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00400-00092600-00092926 commercially as a matter of courtesy or +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00401-00092927-00093111 they want to get access to addition +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00402-00093112-00093311 materials held by that author because +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00403-00093312-00093423 they're so good +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00404-00093424-00093623 then more negotiations could take place +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00405-00093624-00093726 for purchasing +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00406-00093727-00094055 the licenses but just be aware open +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00407-00094056-00094143 licenses +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00408-00094144-00094462 do not require that type of +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00409-00094463-00094767 interaction you are labeling your work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00410-00094768-00094918 how they can be used +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00411-00094919-00095215 okay so i'm going to go ahead and put a +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00412-00095216-00095262 link +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00413-00095263-00095511 in the chat and this is something that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00414-00095512-00095606 might help you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00415-00095607-00095999 with how you can understand +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00416-00096000-00096311 creative commons licensing along with +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00417-00096312-00096567 commercialism buying selling making +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00418-00096568-00096647 money +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00419-00096648-00096959 okay so right now we're moving so much +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00420-00096960-00097167 toward a sharing economy +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00421-00097168-00097359 it doesn't mean that an individual +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00422-00097360-00097518 doesn't make a profit it just means that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00423-00097519-00097647 they're willing to share their own +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00424-00097648-00097711 bounty +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00425-00097712-00097999 or good fortune with others in a variety +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00426-00098000-00098023 of +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00427-00098024-00098343 ways so let's take a look here at all of +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00428-00098344-00098535 these little icons i'm going to start on +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00429-00098536-00098694 the left side +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00430-00098695-00098950 and the items in the green box you'll +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00431-00098951-00099150 notice that there's the circle +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00432-00099151-00099487 with two c's this is stands for creative +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00433-00099488-00099718 commons the single c +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00434-00099719-00099982 means copyright all rights reserve you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00435-00099983-00100199 have to ask permission to use it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00436-00100200-00100423 but now the next icon the circle with +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00437-00100424-00100647 the little humanoid in it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00438-00100648-00100967 is called by by cc +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00439-00100968-00101462 by or creative commons attribution +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00440-00101463-00101615 and as you heard in the video +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00441-00101616-00101806 attribution means you just give credit +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00442-00101807-00102087 to the person who created the work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00443-00102088-00102335 can someone use my work to make money +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00444-00102336-00102454 yes +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00445-00102455-00102823 can someone change my work yes +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00446-00102824-00103102 that's what the license says now the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00447-00103103-00103223 next license +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00448-00103224-00103527 which is cc by b y +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00449-00103528-00103927 s a s a stands for share alike so it's +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00450-00103928-00104063 creative commons +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00451-00104064-00104423 attribution share alike can someone use +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00452-00104424-00104566 my work to make money +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00453-00104567-00104886 yes can someone change my work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00454-00104888-00105175 yeah yes and there's one additional +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00455-00105176-00105351 little hook with the share alike +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00456-00105352-00105558 you must also share the work alike as +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00457-00105559-00105695 well +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00458-00105696-00105951 now we move outside of the green box to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00459-00105952-00106031 the top +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00460-00106032-00106358 center icon it's cc by +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00461-00106359-00106615 and then nc and it's a circle with a +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00462-00106616-00106839 dollar sign and a slash through it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00463-00106840-00107234 this means creative commons attribution +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00464-00107235-00107551 non-commercial can someone use my work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00465-00107552-00107686 to make money +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00466-00107688-00108054 no can someone change my work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00467-00108055-00108383 yes creative commons +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00468-00108383-00108719 attribution non-commercial that allows +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00469-00108720-00108854 you to make the choice +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00470-00108855-00109254 between cc by or cc by nc +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00471-00109255-00109478 of how you want your works to be used +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00472-00109479-00109654 commercially +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00473-00109655-00109983 the sec and in the center column +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00474-00109983-00110223 which has the cc and the by and then the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00475-00110224-00110310 next circle +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00476-00110311-00110551 with an equals sign in it and then +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00477-00110552-00110615 letters +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00478-00110616-00110990 nb so that is creative commons +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00479-00110991-00111423 attribution no derivatives +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00480-00111424-00111623 the question is can someone use my work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00481-00111624-00111839 to make money yes +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00482-00111840-00112158 can someone change my work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00483-00112159-00112471 no they can use it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00484-00112472-00112775 in its entirety as is +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00485-00112776-00113086 okay the third 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cc by no +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00560-00132352-00132431 derivatives +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00561-00132432-00132775 i can't because i would be making a new +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00562-00132776-00132854 thing +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00563-00132855-00133087 with that no derivatives and that's not +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00564-00133088-00133295 allowed under the license +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00565-00133296-00133527 doesn't mean you couldn't contact the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00566-00133528-00133607 author +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00567-00133608-00133751 and see if they would release a +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00568-00133752-00133935 different version to you that you could +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00569-00133936-00134054 use +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00570-00134055-00134366 but this way you'll notice most of the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00571-00134367-00134566 green check marks are kind of up in the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00572-00134567-00134719 upper left-hand side +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00573-00134720-00134935 that's really your safe zone of being +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00574-00134936-00135151 able to mix several types of licenses 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attribution all that i ask of you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00650-00152176-00152383 if you take my presentation and maybe +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00651-00152384-00152566 you want to show it to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00652-00152567-00152783 others at your school or you want to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00653-00152784-00153014 share it with other people +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00654-00153015-00153335 all i ask is you give me credit +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00655-00153336-00153566 now there are four areas to understand +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00656-00153567-00153654 here in +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00657-00153655-00153911 making this mark i see the icon that's +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00658-00153912-00153983 great +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00659-00153984-00154199 that's an important piece but the rest +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00660-00154200-00154302 of the text +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00661-00154303-00154551 allows for something that we call tassel +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00662-00154552-00154647 four areas +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00663-00154648-00154966 title author source and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00664-00154967-00155271 license so we know the title is 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+Axzm-ZsOAiy-00679-00158784-00158895 can use +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00680-00158896-00159278 my work right so as we go through this +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00681-00159279-00159335 is this +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00682-00159336-00159551 all is kind of settling in and we +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00683-00159552-00159695 understand that there's +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00684-00159696-00159966 licensing considerations as a creator +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00685-00159967-00160190 it's very personal it's your choice +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00686-00160191-00160495 how you wish to license but there's +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00687-00160496-00160807 also the honoring of other intellectual +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00688-00160808-00160983 property creators +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00689-00160984-00161199 other teachers or other people who +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00690-00161200-00161335 create works +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00691-00161336-00161678 and how they license it to allow you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00692-00161679-00161983 to use it in any way that they have +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00693-00161984-00162207 chosen that you can use it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00694-00162208-00162511 so the next piece is really +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00695-00162512-00162799 just a high-level view about all right +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00696-00162800-00162975 you can license your work but +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00697-00162976-00163302 what do you do when you need to find +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00698-00163303-00163543 a license all right now a lot of people +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00699-00163544-00163647 the first thing they do +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00700-00163648-00163883 is they go to google and they put in +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00701-00163884-00164166 keywords i will recommend to you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00702-00164167-00164543 that you use the advanced options +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00703-00164544-00164766 that advanced search button that you can +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00704-00164767-00165047 find under the sprocket or the gear +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00705-00165048-00165454 because you have to know or at least +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00706-00165455-00165614 attempt to know +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00707-00165615-00165838 that the license has been posted for the 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definitely an adult +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00752-00176967-00177063 education +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00753-00177064-00177399 focused effort to bring more open +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00754-00177400-00177631 educational resources in the terms of +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00755-00177632-00177943 flex books to adult education and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00756-00177944-00178199 any one of these may help you get +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00757-00178200-00178302 started +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00758-00178303-00178526 with perhaps in the fall teaching +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00759-00178527-00178663 something new +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00760-00178664-00178943 so what i'm going to do here is i'm +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00761-00178944-00179063 going to post +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00762-00179064-00179423 a link in the chat +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00763-00179424-00179790 and if you can spend just a second +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00764-00179791-00180287 to open it up and see if you can tell me +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00765-00180288-00180590 what kind of license that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00766-00180591-00180951 resource has so you can just put it in +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00767-00180952-00181038 the chat +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00768-00181039-00181223 and in the meantime i'm going to post a +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00769-00181224-00181383 couple others +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00770-00181384-00181590 and again this is just to help you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00771-00181591-00181702 identify and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00772-00181703-00182102 recognize a resource and how it's +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00773-00182103-00182263 licensed +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00774-00182264-00182559 and some of them are very easy and some +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00775-00182560-00182638 of them +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00776-00182639-00182999 are not so don't be frustrated if you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00777-00183000-00183135 don't find it right away +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00778-00183136-00183471 that wasn't the intent +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00779-00183472-00183695 and i'll put two more in here there +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00780-00183696-00183838 might be some of you that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00781-00183839-00184119 are music files or audio files and like +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00782-00184120-00184247 like music +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00783-00184248-00184590 um and there's one really nice resource +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00784-00184591-00184759 i'll show you here how +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00785-00184760-00185071 a group of musicians +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00786-00185072-00185383 have used creative commons to share +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00787-00185384-00185471 their work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00788-00185472-00185799 and make money too +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00789-00185800-00186007 okay so i'm going to switch my screen +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00790-00186008-00186207 here real quick +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00791-00186208-00186366 and we're going hopefully if i can get +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00792-00186367-00186638 to where i need to go so that first link +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00793-00186639-00186959 was from mit open courseware +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00794-00186960-00187271 did anybody find the license dominica i +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00795-00187272-00187478 think you won the prize i will scroll +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00796-00187479-00187719 down the page real quick +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00797-00187720-00187911 and you should see oh i might have to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00798-00187912-00188095 scroll right too +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00799-00188096-00188543 this is creative commons attribution +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00800-00188544-00188887 non-commercial share alike +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00801-00188888-00189263 is it an open education resource no +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00802-00189264-00189487 because there are restrictions +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00803-00189488-00189623 non-commercial +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00804-00189624-00189926 is a restriction it makes it not open +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00805-00189927-00190271 in the way that we define the five r's +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00806-00190272-00190583 how about this next one this jpeg what +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00807-00190584-00190990 is this one +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00808-00190991-00191423 anybody find it +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00809-00191424-00191566 i have a tiny screen here right at the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00810-00191567-00191766 moment so +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00811-00191767-00192143 sometimes these can be oh there we go +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00812-00192144-00192454 this is cc by right and this +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00813-00192455-00192743 particular site which is from wikimedia +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00814-00192744-00192999 they tell you exactly how you can use +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00815-00193000-00193223 this work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00816-00193224-00193431 the next one here is music theory for +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00817-00193432-00193566 musicians and again +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00818-00193567-00193902 we have the license right here cc by +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00819-00193903-00194231 nc nd creative commons +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00820-00194232-00194566 attribution commercial +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00821-00194567-00194871 no derivatives but there's lots of +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00822-00194872-00195014 resources here if you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00823-00195015-00195278 or someone that you know teaches music +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00824-00195279-00195495 this might be a great place to find +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00825-00195496-00195807 free resources +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00826-00195808-00196031 the next one the cost of freedom this is +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00827-00196032-00196119 a collective +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00828-00196120-00196438 book and you can read about it but if i +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00829-00196439-00196614 look down through the page i see that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00830-00196615-00196678 there's +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00831-00196679-00197023 many different options when i look at +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00832-00197024-00197223 you know trying to find that license +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00833-00197224-00197407 this is one of those that it may or may +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00834-00197408-00197638 not be easy to see +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00835-00197639-00197999 if they put a icon on the page +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00836-00198000-00198311 and if it's not there sometimes you have +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00837-00198312-00198375 to dig +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00838-00198376-00198759 in to their terms of use +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00839-00198760-00199150 or their privacy to find out how +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00840-00199151-00199438 they can how you can use this work so if +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00841-00199439-00199631 i scroll down the page +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00842-00199632-00199950 i'm looking oh look there it is way +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00843-00199951-00200199 down at the bottom of the page this work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00844-00200200-00200566 has been released into the public domain +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00845-00200567-00200847 okay and the last one and this is the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00846-00200848-00201038 one that's the most difficult +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00847-00201039-00201231 because i'm not signed into this +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00848-00201232-00201366 particular page +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00849-00201367-00201687 called tribe radio and tribe of noise +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00850-00201688-00201950 but this is a particular group who have +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00851-00201951-00202023 released +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00852-00202024-00202231 their works under a creative commons +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00853-00202232-00202335 license +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00854-00202336-00202654 and at the same time they're allowing +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00855-00202655-00202983 um others to buy their work and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00856-00202984-00203295 use it like in their +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00857-00203296-00203575 like elevator music or restaurant music +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00858-00203576-00203831 and we'd have to dive in more down here +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00859-00203832-00203911 at the bottom +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00860-00203912-00204238 with their terms and see exactly how we +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00861-00204239-00204431 can use these works +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00862-00204432-00204702 but you can find it by going and diving +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00863-00204703-00204806 into the bottom here because you'll +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00864-00204807-00205055 notice the website +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00865-00205056-00205303 and tribe of noise is under copyright +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00866-00205304-00205398 which is fine +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00867-00205400-00205623 it's their intellectual property but +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00868-00205623-00205823 when you start going into their user +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00869-00205823-00206103 guides and their terms you can see +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00870-00206104-00206334 a little more quickly how you can use +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00871-00206335-00206446 this material +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00872-00206448-00206679 and fortunately it's right here at the +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00873-00206680-00206766 top +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00874-00206767-00207023 where it's a creative commons 3.0 and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00875-00207023-00207142 4.0 +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00876-00207144-00207510 but they have other conditions i guess +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00877-00207511-00207614 you could say +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00878-00207615-00207927 of how you can use this work so i don't +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00879-00207928-00208127 know about you but most people +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00880-00208128-00208319 don't go in and read these things even +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00881-00208319-00208455 when they're presented +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00882-00208456-00208831 on a web page so this is a very +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00883-00208832-00209198 high level look at copyright +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00884-00209200-00209590 and open licensing creative commons +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00885-00209591-00209910 and ways that you can license your own +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00886-00209911-00209967 work +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00887-00209967-00210327 as well as understand how others +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00888-00210328-00210694 license their work so that kind of +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00889-00210696-00210791 concludes +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00890-00210792-00211087 my session today i thank you all for +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00891-00211088-00211158 attending +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00892-00211159-00211334 and i will go ahead and turn it back +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00893-00211335-00211551 over to marjorie to close us out and +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00894-00211552-00211823 move us on to the next section +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00895-00211823-00211975 awesome thank you penny for all of that +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00896-00211976-00212206 information otan would also like to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00897-00212207-00212367 thank all of you for coming to this tech +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00898-00212367-00212406 talk +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00899-00212407-00212591 if you have a tool or some tips that you +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00900-00212592-00212823 use in an adult education program +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00901-00212823-00212951 that you'd like to share with the adult +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00902-00212952-00213191 education field um please email your +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00903-00213192-00213303 idea to support +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00904-00213304-00213582 otan.us we also encourage you to +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00905-00213583-00213767 subscribe to the otan youtube channel +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00906-00213767-00213934 where you can view archive tech talks as +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00907-00213935-00214158 well as view other otan videos +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00908-00214159-00214334 otan is a leadership project for adult +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00909-00214335-00214479 education in california +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00910-00214480-00214655 and if you are at a weoll funded site +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00911-00214656-00214839 you can contact otan for additional +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00912-00214840-00214958 services +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00913-00214959-00215094 including professional development at +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00914-00215096-00215458 your site visit the otan website at +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00915-00215459-00215694 www.otan.us or contact us by phone or +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00916-00215696-00215767 email +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00917-00215767-00215927 and we hope to see you all at future +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00918-00215928-00217623 otan tech talks +Axzm-ZsOAiy-00919-00217623-00217832 you +AxJCvOrHYPc-00000-00000524-00000928 so this video is about Google Fonts what +AxJCvOrHYPc-00001-00000930-00001256 our Google Fonts well Google Fonts are a +AxJCvOrHYPc-00002-00001257-00001598 font foundry where they store web fonts +AxJCvOrHYPc-00003-00001599-00001852 and you can use them for free so let's +AxJCvOrHYPc-00004-00001853-00002138 go and find it the easiest way is either +AxJCvOrHYPc-00005-00002139-00002410 typing in the URL directly or you can +AxJCvOrHYPc-00006-00002411-00002793 just do a search for google fonts and +AxJCvOrHYPc-00007-00002794-00003254 there we go this is google fonts the URL +AxJCvOrHYPc-00008-00003254-00003815 is fonts google.com so as you can see +AxJCvOrHYPc-00009-00003815-00003968 there are a lot of fonts to choose from +AxJCvOrHYPc-00010-00003969-00004316 there actually 988 different families +AxJCvOrHYPc-00011-00004317-00004699 what do we memo families well in CSS a +AxJCvOrHYPc-00012-00004700-00005150 typeface is a font family it's actually +AxJCvOrHYPc-00013-00005151-00005309 a bit easier to understand than the +AxJCvOrHYPc-00014-00005310-00005600 usual terminology which is fonts which +AxJCvOrHYPc-00015-00005601-00005951 are the individual font styles at least +AxJCvOrHYPc-00016-00005952-00006136 that's how I was trained some designers +AxJCvOrHYPc-00017-00006137-00006428 use the terms interchangeably but the +AxJCvOrHYPc-00018-00006429-00006735 way I was trained a font is the +AxJCvOrHYPc-00019-00006736-00007100 individual style that you are using so +AxJCvOrHYPc-00020-00007101-00007585 for instance Arial 12-point italic is a +AxJCvOrHYPc-00021-00007586-00007981 font Ariel 14 points italic is another +AxJCvOrHYPc-00022-00007983-00008327 font the reason for that was back in the +AxJCvOrHYPc-00023-00008328-00008708 old days of physical printing presses +AxJCvOrHYPc-00024-00008709-00008909 where you had to change the little lead +AxJCvOrHYPc-00025-00008910-00009085 slugs and so you would have a little box +AxJCvOrHYPc-00026-00009086-00009299 for 12-point italic you'd have another +AxJCvOrHYPc-00027-00009300-00009581 box for 14-point italic not so much used +AxJCvOrHYPc-00028-00009582-00009788 in that way anymore because of course +AxJCvOrHYPc-00029-00009789-00009989 with computers it's much easier to +AxJCvOrHYPc-00030-00009990-00010303 change it so I think rather sensibly in +AxJCvOrHYPc-00031-00010304-00010651 web design we call it font families and +AxJCvOrHYPc-00032-00010652-00011110 font styles sometimes or fonts so a font +AxJCvOrHYPc-00033-00011111-00011363 family is something like a Roboto if we +AxJCvOrHYPc-00034-00011364-00011717 jump through you'll see that there are +AxJCvOrHYPc-00035-00011718-00012059 all the different styles as they call it +AxJCvOrHYPc-00036-00012060-00012214 or individual fonts so you've got sin +AxJCvOrHYPc-00037-00012215-00012653 100 all the way up to black 900 italic +AxJCvOrHYPc-00038-00012654-00012788 and you have a lot of different choices +AxJCvOrHYPc-00039-00012789-00013105 there let's step back a page though so +AxJCvOrHYPc-00040-00013106-00013319 when it comes to choosing you probably +AxJCvOrHYPc-00041-00013319-00013376 have an +AxJCvOrHYPc-00042-00013377-00013666 idea of the sorts of fonts that you want +AxJCvOrHYPc-00043-00013668-00013841 for your particular design direction +AxJCvOrHYPc-00044-00013841-00014096 when it comes to choosing them unless +AxJCvOrHYPc-00045-00014097-00014341 you really want to go through 988 +AxJCvOrHYPc-00046-00014343-00014528 different families it probably makes +AxJCvOrHYPc-00047-00014529-00014722 more sense to click on categories and +AxJCvOrHYPc-00048-00014724-00014921 then just choose the category that +AxJCvOrHYPc-00049-00014922-00015308 you're after so in this case I believe I +AxJCvOrHYPc-00050-00015309-00015572 will have a go at a serif lets users +AxJCvOrHYPc-00051-00015572-00015932 serif here in fact let's use a serif and +AxJCvOrHYPc-00052-00015933-00016274 sans-serif will have a serif for +AxJCvOrHYPc-00053-00016275-00016502 headings and a sans-serif for all the +AxJCvOrHYPc-00054-00016503-00016775 other text on the page and now we're not +AxJCvOrHYPc-00055-00016776-00016979 seeing any of the display handwriting +AxJCvOrHYPc-00056-00016980-00017210 and mono spaced fonts so let's have a +AxJCvOrHYPc-00057-00017211-00017627 look here so I might decide that this is +AxJCvOrHYPc-00058-00017628-00017906 quite a nice one so we'll add this one +AxJCvOrHYPc-00059-00017907-00018317 as our body text font and if I scoot on +AxJCvOrHYPc-00060-00018318-00018695 down do we have any nice Roboto slip +AxJCvOrHYPc-00061-00018696-00018899 actually I know what I'm going to do I'm +AxJCvOrHYPc-00062-00018900-00019166 going to do Roboto slab for my headings +AxJCvOrHYPc-00063-00019167-00019565 and I'll use Roboto condensed for my +AxJCvOrHYPc-00064-00019566-00019802 text because these are designed to work +AxJCvOrHYPc-00065-00019803-00019973 well together because they're in the +AxJCvOrHYPc-00066-00019974-00020237 same overall kind of font family or +AxJCvOrHYPc-00067-00020238-00020531 typeface so let's go and do that I'm +AxJCvOrHYPc-00068-00020532-00020785 going to click through to Roboto slab +AxJCvOrHYPc-00069-00020786-00021293 and I want to add this now the important +AxJCvOrHYPc-00070-00021294-00021551 thing is you only want the styles that +AxJCvOrHYPc-00071-00021552-00021917 you will use and for this reason you've +AxJCvOrHYPc-00072-00021918-00022319 got to think of how web fonts work how +AxJCvOrHYPc-00073-00022320-00022502 web fonts work is that the user does not +AxJCvOrHYPc-00074-00022503-00022763 have this in most cases installed on +AxJCvOrHYPc-00075-00022764-00023134 their computer on their system instead +AxJCvOrHYPc-00076-00023135-00023537 their computer is accessing google fonts +AxJCvOrHYPc-00077-00023538-00023816 and downloading just what it needs for +AxJCvOrHYPc-00078-00023817-00024062 that website now if I were to add every +AxJCvOrHYPc-00079-00024063-00024296 single one of these styles just in case +AxJCvOrHYPc-00080-00024297-00024544 it means that my user has to download +AxJCvOrHYPc-00081-00024545-00024815 all of these fonts just in case they +AxJCvOrHYPc-00082-00024816-00024977 used anywhere on the page and that can +AxJCvOrHYPc-00083-00024978-00025249 slow the download of your website down +AxJCvOrHYPc-00084-00025250-00025511 considerably so let's be kind to people +AxJCvOrHYPc-00085-00025512-00025700 on mobile devices who are playing paying +AxJCvOrHYPc-00086-00025701-00025955 for their data plans instead all I'm +AxJCvOrHYPc-00087-00025956-00026255 going to do is choose the weights that I +AxJCvOrHYPc-00088-00026256-00026395 want for these headings and I'm just +AxJCvOrHYPc-00089-00026397-00026723 going to choose bold 700 +AxJCvOrHYPc-00090-00026724-00026890 so I'm going to select that style and +AxJCvOrHYPc-00091-00026891-00027112 that's it and when I select that you see +AxJCvOrHYPc-00092-00027113-00027320 how this scoots out of the side the +AxJCvOrHYPc-00093-00027320-00027608 interface has changed in the last yeah +AxJCvOrHYPc-00094-00027608-00027793 so that's why I'm recording this video +AxJCvOrHYPc-00095-00027794-00028079 and this is nice and simple we can see +AxJCvOrHYPc-00096-00028080-00028364 that the one I've chosen is bold 700 if +AxJCvOrHYPc-00097-00028364-00028532 you ever make the mistake that I have +AxJCvOrHYPc-00098-00028533-00028705 done and close that and then go oh no +AxJCvOrHYPc-00099-00028706-00028924 how am I going to see that again it's +AxJCvOrHYPc-00100-00028925-00029102 this symbol up here +AxJCvOrHYPc-00101-00029102-00029342 it's not very clear it's one of the +AxJCvOrHYPc-00102-00029343-00029651 reasons I hate symbols for interaction +AxJCvOrHYPc-00103-00029652-00029873 unless there is an agreed-upon meaning +AxJCvOrHYPc-00104-00029874-00030086 for a particular symbol it ends up being +AxJCvOrHYPc-00105-00030087-00030274 what we call mystery meat navigation +AxJCvOrHYPc-00106-00030275-00030496 anyway that's my complaint of the day +AxJCvOrHYPc-00107-00030497-00030839 now we just want another font here for +AxJCvOrHYPc-00108-00030839-00031061 our body text so we're going to go back +AxJCvOrHYPc-00109-00031062-00031232 again and remember that with this one I +AxJCvOrHYPc-00110-00031233-00031580 was going to do Roboto condensed might +AxJCvOrHYPc-00111-00031581-00031843 be Roboto condensed I don't really know +AxJCvOrHYPc-00112-00031844-00032162 I'll choose the light but I'm going to +AxJCvOrHYPc-00113-00032163-00032402 choose light mainly to illustrate +AxJCvOrHYPc-00114-00032402-00032660 something because often as designers we +AxJCvOrHYPc-00115-00032661-00032885 love the dramatic and we 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+AxJCvOrHYPc-00142-00039353-00039644 magic page +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00000-00000032-00000271 one of the great freedoms the freedom of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00001-00000272-00000471 association continuation upon +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00002-00000472-00000695 resumption questions without notice +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00003-00000696-00000975 senator still yes thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00004-00000976-00001191 sadly my question is to the minister for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00005-00001192-00001358 senior australians and aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00006-00001359-00001574 services senator kolbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00007-00001575-00001839 two days before christmas last year lee +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00008-00001839-00002079 received a call from her 86 year old +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00009-00002080-00002191 father's aged +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00010-00002192-00002550 care home regis netherlands in perth +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00011-00002551-00002750 telling her he was in an ambulance to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00012-00002751-00002871 the hospital +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00013-00002872-00003215 her father brian hunter was and i quote +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00014-00003215-00003463 slumped over in bed and his back was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00015-00003464-00003695 exposed i could see his back was really +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00016-00003696-00003806 terribly burnt +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00017-00003807-00004047 his whole back was burned and he was not +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00018-00004047-00004283 speaking to us he was semi in and out of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00019-00004284-00004438 consciousness +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00020-00004439-00004679 brian a double amputee who had lost both +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00021-00004680-00004863 legs due to diabetes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00022-00004864-00005118 had been left out on a rooftop terrace +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00023-00005119-00005311 on a 40 degree +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00024-00005312-00005622 day for two hours nobody noticed he was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00025-00005623-00005775 missing for two hours +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00026-00005776-00005983 brian tragically died on the 20th of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00027-00005984-00006175 january this year more than 12 months +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00028-00006176-00006327 after the royal commission's interim +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00029-00006328-00006510 report entitled neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00030-00006511-00006767 minister how is this neglect continuing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00031-00006768-00006910 on your watch +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00032-00006911-00007110 the minister for senior australians and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00033-00007111-00007214 aged care services +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00034-00007215-00007574 senator kolbeck thank you mr president i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00035-00007575-00007983 thank senator still for his question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00036-00007984-00008199 we are all very disturbed by any +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00037-00008200-00008483 circumstance +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00038-00008484-00008687 of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00039-00008688-00009031 poor treatment poor care of any +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00040-00009032-00009199 resident in an aged care facility in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00041-00009200-00009383 this country mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00042-00009384-00009567 and mr president it should not keep +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00043-00009568-00009846 happening to your point senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00044-00009847-00010039 uh senator what it should not keep +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00045-00010040-00010151 happening +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00046-00010152-00010487 mr president can i say i i will be very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00047-00010488-00010631 cautious with respect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00048-00010632-00010910 to the allegations that are currently +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00049-00010911-00011095 being aired with respect to regis +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00050-00011096-00011238 because i know +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00051-00011239-00011423 uh that there are a number of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00052-00011424-00011687 investigations that are being undertaken +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00053-00011688-00011951 with respect to the allegations that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00054-00011952-00012046 apply +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00055-00012047-00012455 to this particular facility i've had +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00056-00012456-00012670 quite a number of briefings uh with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00057-00012671-00012822 respect to this from the quality +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00058-00012823-00012983 commissioner my department and i've also +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00059-00012984-00013166 had a number of conversations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00060-00013168-00013519 uh elsewhere with respect to this matter +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00061-00013519-00013886 and mr president can i say +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00062-00013887-00014022 i'm very concerned that these +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00063-00014023-00014222 allegations have come to light +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00064-00014223-00014407 there's a coroner's review that's +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00065-00014408-00014543 underway mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00066-00014544-00014775 there has been a police police +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00067-00014776-00014894 investigation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00068-00014895-00015183 that has found no circumstance of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00069-00015184-00015319 criminality with respect to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00070-00015319-00015455 allegations that are currently being +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00071-00015456-00015535 aired with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00072-00015536-00015855 in relation to regis mr president and of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00073-00015856-00016015 course the aged care quality +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00074-00016016-00016263 and safety commission has issued both a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00075-00016263-00016399 sanction +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00076-00016400-00016711 and a notice to agree against regis +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00077-00016712-00016822 netherlands +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00078-00016823-00017007 with respect to the allegations that are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00079-00017008-00017183 being raised +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00080-00017184-00017391 all of these allegations mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00081-00017392-00017519 are very very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00082-00017520-00017847 concerning uh the government members +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00083-00017848-00018175 on this side are just as concerned as +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00084-00018176-00018255 anyone +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00085-00018256-00018519 in any other part on the chamber mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00086-00018520-00018607 president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00087-00018608-00018871 uh where we all remain concerned we are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00088-00018872-00018975 concerned +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00089-00018976-00019214 for the families uh and and the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00090-00019215-00019407 circumstances that they find themselves +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00091-00019408-00019439 in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00092-00019440-00019583 and we would like to get to the bottom +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00093-00019584-00019791 of this matter +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00094-00019792-00019983 a supplementary question yes i do thank +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00095-00019984-00020227 you mr president the day after brian's +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00096-00020228-00020358 hospitalization +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00097-00020359-00020583 the hospital reported regis to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00098-00020584-00020663 morrison +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00099-00020664-00020919 government's regulator the aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00100-00020920-00021143 quality and safety commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00101-00021144-00021430 nobody visited regis netherlands until +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00102-00021431-00021511 the 11th +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00103-00021512-00021822 of january three weeks later +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00104-00021823-00021999 when did the minister first become aware +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00105-00022000-00022158 of brian's tragic death +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00106-00022159-00022335 and what action has he taken to ensure +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00107-00022336-00022486 this neglect never +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00108-00022487-00022911 ever happens again senator kolbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00109-00022912-00023263 thank you mr president uh in in relation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00110-00023264-00023407 to the specific date that i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00111-00023408-00023678 became aware of uh the resident's death +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00112-00023679-00023822 i can't give you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00113-00023823-00023967 that specifically but i'm happy to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00114-00023968-00024199 provide that information to the chamber +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00115-00024200-00024494 mr president uh but as i've said the the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00116-00024495-00024719 aged care quality and safety commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00117-00024720-00025063 has issued both a sanction and a notice +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00118-00025064-00025199 to agree +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00119-00025200-00025511 on uh regis netlands uh that that is an +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00120-00025512-00025622 appropriate process +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00121-00025623-00025806 and senator i will take your intention +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00122-00025807-00026006 you are right it should not agree it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00123-00026007-00026102 should not have occurred +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00124-00026104-00026367 in the first place mr president uh and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00125-00026368-00026487 that mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00126-00026488-00026814 goes to that mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00127-00026816-00026983 mr president that's why we call the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00128-00026983-00027190 royal commission that's why +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00129-00027191-00027390 one of the first acts of prime minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00130-00027391-00027527 morrison was to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00131-00027527-00027727 call another commission to undertake a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00132-00027727-00027862 forensic review +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00133-00027863-00028190 of the aged care sector and so that we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00134-00028191-00028383 could put in place the reforms +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00135-00028383-00028727 that will stop these sorts of events +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00136-00028727-00028967 lift the entire sector uh and so that we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00137-00028968-00029151 do have a better and world-class +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00138-00029152-00029351 care system a final supplementary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00139-00029352-00029607 question yes i do thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00140-00029608-00029870 regis netherlands had been sanctioned in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00141-00029872-00029987 november +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00142-00029988-00030239 2019 14 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00143-00030239-00030543 months before brian died for putting the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00144-00030544-00030831 safety and health of residents at risk +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00145-00030832-00031031 how many more older australians will +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00146-00031032-00031199 tragically die because of the ongoing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00147-00031200-00031287 neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00148-00031288-00031462 in the morrison government's aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00149-00031463-00031590 system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00150-00031591-00031943 senator kolbeck thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00151-00031944-00032158 unfortunately what senator sterl has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00152-00032160-00032343 done is neglected +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00153-00032344-00032527 to advise the chamber of other +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00154-00032527-00032743 assessments of this organization +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00155-00032744-00032959 who you're correct did receive a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00156-00032960-00033167 sanction at that point in time but were +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00157-00033168-00033351 subsequently assessed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00158-00033352-00033590 to be compliant with the standards and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00159-00033591-00033655 so +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00160-00033656-00033902 they had had a problem they put in place +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00161-00033903-00034055 corrective action to fix it and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00162-00034056-00034231 subsequently been assessed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00163-00034232-00034495 mr president a sanction is not a life +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00164-00034496-00034599 sentence +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00165-00034600-00034839 it is a process to improve the capacity +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00166-00034840-00034951 of the service +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00167-00034952-00035207 mr president and that's what i expect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00168-00035208-00035311 that's what all of us +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00169-00035312-00035590 expect should occur and mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00170-00035591-00035639 that's +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00171-00035640-00036007 what i expect from regis in the context +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00172-00036008-00036287 of the circumstance that are occurring +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00173-00036288-00036430 right now mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00174-00036431-00036767 regis under both a sanction +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00175-00036768-00037007 and a notice to agree and both of those +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00176-00037008-00037143 tools are designed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00177-00037144-00037359 to improve the quality of service at the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00178-00037360-00037511 facility and mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00179-00037512-00038015 that is what i expect senator fawcett +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00180-00038016-00038174 thank you mr president my question is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00181-00038175-00038311 also to the minister representing the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00182-00038312-00038423 minister for health +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00183-00038424-00038655 and aged care senator kolbeck can the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00184-00038656-00038823 minister update the senate on the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00185-00038824-00038999 national covert 19 vaccine +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00186-00039000-00039255 rollout and how this is underpinning our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00187-00039256-00039446 health and economic recovery +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00188-00039447-00039583 the minister representing the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00189-00039584-00039935 for health and aged care senator kolbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00190-00039936-00040102 thank you mr president and thank you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00191-00040103-00040239 senator fawcett for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00192-00040240-00040527 your question mr president it has been +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00193-00040528-00040751 an important week for all australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00194-00040752-00041046 we are now into day four of the max the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00195-00041047-00041087 mass +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00196-00041088-00041430 vaccine rollout across the country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00197-00041431-00041639 we are prioritizing the most vulnerable +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00198-00041640-00041743 in society +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00199-00041744-00042102 as we should to receive the vaccine +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00200-00042103-00042199 first +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00201-00042200-00042439 aged care residents border quarantine +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00202-00042440-00042574 and frontline health workers +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00203-00042575-00042743 have the opportunity to have their first +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00204-00042744-00042911 dose of the vaccine +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00205-00042912-00043167 this week mr president both the fisa +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00206-00043168-00043351 biotech and the astrazeneca vaccines +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00207-00043352-00043502 require two separate doses +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00208-00043503-00043815 for a person to be fully immunised +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00209-00043816-00044046 fires are biotech 21 days apart +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00210-00044047-00044183 astrazeneca +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00211-00044184-00044487 12 weeks apart phase 1a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00212-00044488-00044727 remains on track for the first round of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00213-00044728-00044790 doses +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00214-00044791-00045055 to be delivered within a six-week period +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00215-00045056-00045190 mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00216-00045191-00045358 under the australian government's plan +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00217-00045359-00045535 quarantine and border workers and aged +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00218-00045536-00045630 care residents +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00219-00045631-00046007 are on track to be vaccinated by april +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00220-00046008-00046230 you can be assured that the vaccination +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00221-00046231-00046430 rollout is well underway in your home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00222-00046431-00046574 state of south australia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00223-00046575-00046911 senator fawcett i'm advised that 933 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00224-00046912-00047118 people have had their first dose +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00225-00047119-00047415 in south australia and we expect those +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00226-00047416-00047639 figures to ramp up significantly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00227-00047640-00047958 as weeks progress we thank all +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00228-00047959-00048111 australians mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00229-00048112-00048255 partake particularly the frontline +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00230-00048256-00048407 health workers for their commitment and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00231-00048408-00048511 hard work +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00232-00048512-00048767 to rolling out this vaccine across the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00233-00048768-00048871 country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00234-00048872-00049102 our vaccination program will underpin +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00235-00049103-00049351 our health and economic recovery +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00236-00049352-00049486 senator force of the supplementary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00237-00049487-00049662 question thanks mr president can the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00238-00049663-00049815 minister provide an update on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00239-00049816-00049983 how many australians nationwide have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00240-00049984-00050199 been vaccinated in this first week +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00241-00050200-00050599 of the rollout senator kolbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00242-00050600-00050743 thanks mr president thanks senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00243-00050744-00051023 fawcett mr president the aged care roll +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00244-00051024-00051143 out is part of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00245-00051144-00051463 phase 1a it will progressively +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00246-00051464-00051766 ramp up as the week progresses +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00247-00051767-00051894 it's one of the things that we have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00248-00051895-00052046 asked the providers to do is to start +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00249-00052047-00052223 cautiously to make sure that things are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00250-00052224-00052270 moving +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00251-00052271-00052535 progressively there have been more than +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00252-00052536-00052647 17 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00253-00052648-00052823 500 vaccines reported to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00254-00052824-00053094 commonwealth as having been administered +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00255-00053095-00053399 across the country so far this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00256-00053400-00053591 week our vaccination teams have visited +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00257-00053591-00053854 71 residential aged care facilities +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00258-00053855-00054238 and almost 4 700 residents have received +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00259-00054239-00054582 the vaccine we expect health care teams +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00260-00054583-00054863 to visit an additional 20 facilities +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00261-00054864-00054942 today +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00262-00054944-00055263 and vaccinate a further 1600 residents +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00263-00055264-00055350 mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00264-00055351-00055615 in coming weeks the program will reach +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00265-00055616-00055735 more than 2 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00266-00055736-00056030 600 residential aged care facilities and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00267-00056032-00056207 more than 180 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00268-00056208-00056559 3 000 residents and 339 000 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00269-00056560-00056838 staff senator forcer final supplementary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00270-00056839-00056926 question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00271-00056927-00057094 thanks mr president uh minister could +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00272-00057095-00057279 you outline what results are being +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00273-00057279-00057511 seen around the world as a result of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00274-00057512-00057679 vaccination programs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00275-00057679-00058094 senator kolbeck thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00276-00058095-00058366 uh and thank you senator fawcett data is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00277-00058367-00058526 coming in from around the world +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00278-00058527-00058759 on other countries vaccine rollouts for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00279-00058760-00058919 example there are very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00280-00058920-00059279 encouraging results coming out of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00281-00059279-00059375 scotland +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00282-00059376-00059654 among scotland's 5.4 million people +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00283-00059655-00059750 they've administered +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00284-00059751-00059942 over one million doses of vaccine +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00285-00059944-00060142 they're using the flies of vaccine +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00286-00060144-00060350 and the astrozenic vaccine as is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00287-00060351-00060463 australia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00288-00060464-00060687 mr president and the study has looked at +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00289-00060688-00060879 the numbers admitted to hospital with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00290-00060879-00060950 covert +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00291-00060951-00061191 those that have had those and those that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00292-00061191-00061382 have not had the vaccines +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00293-00061383-00061630 research led by public health scotland +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00294-00061632-00061719 found at +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00295-00061720-00061991 four weeks after the first dose hospital +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00296-00061991-00062142 admissions were reduced by +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00297-00062144-00062519 85 percent for the fisa vaccine +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00298-00062520-00062863 and mr president 94 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00299-00062864-00063166 for astrazeneca jabs so these are very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00300-00063167-00063350 encouraging early results two leading +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00301-00063351-00063438 vaccines +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00302-00063439-00063671 that work against severe end of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00303-00063672-00063838 spectrum and there's further evidence +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00304-00063839-00063966 that it's working in a real world +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00305-00063967-00064015 setting +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00306-00064016-00064271 so very encouraging senator pratt thank +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00307-00064272-00064406 you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00308-00064407-00064599 my question today is to the minister for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00309-00064600-00064791 senior australians and aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00310-00064791-00065071 services senator colbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00311-00065072-00065471 lisa's father 94 year old dick lee was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00312-00065472-00065606 allegedly abused +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00313-00065607-00065911 at regis netherlands a report details +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00314-00065912-00066119 that he was found and i quote on the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00315-00066120-00066335 floor near the entrance of his room +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00316-00066336-00066631 completely unclothed and sitting in his +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00317-00066632-00066750 feces +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00318-00066751-00067031 with a carer standing over him i asked +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00319-00067032-00067103 the carer +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00320-00067104-00067415 did he fall and the carers said +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00321-00067416-00067750 no the carer was later witnessed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00322-00067751-00068055 dragging mr lee into the bathroom more +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00323-00068056-00068167 than 12 months +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00324-00068168-00068326 after the royal commission's interim +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00325-00068327-00068526 report entitled neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00326-00068527-00068847 how is this neglect still continuing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00327-00068848-00069135 on this minister's watch the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00328-00069136-00069167 for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00329-00069168-00069311 senior australians and aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00330-00069312-00069526 services senator kolbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00331-00069527-00069719 thank you mr president thanks senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00332-00069720-00069855 pratt for the question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00333-00069856-00070159 um mr president i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00334-00070160-00070375 will continue to be in the answer to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00335-00070376-00070503 this question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00336-00070504-00070711 uh cautious with respect to what i say +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00337-00070712-00070967 about the specifics of the allegations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00338-00070968-00071231 that have been made in this case as i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00339-00071232-00071279 was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00340-00071280-00071606 in the question from senator still the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00341-00071607-00071982 these cases are subject to coroners +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00342-00071983-00072279 inquests they are subject to independent +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00343-00072280-00072438 review processes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00344-00072439-00072582 that have been commissioned and of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00345-00072583-00072791 course they have also +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00346-00072792-00073079 they have also been mr president subject +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00347-00073080-00073135 to a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00348-00073136-00073415 police investigation mr president uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00349-00073416-00073599 what i will say +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00350-00073600-00073943 is that nobody in this place wants to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00351-00073944-00073991 see +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00352-00073992-00074406 mistreatment of any senior australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00353-00074407-00074719 aged care in this country that is why we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00354-00074720-00075055 called the royal to into uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00355-00075056-00075231 aged care quality and safety so that we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00356-00075232-00075479 could conduct a comprehensive review of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00357-00075480-00075606 the sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00358-00075607-00075855 and that we could put in place the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00359-00075856-00076047 appropriate regulatory regimes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00360-00076048-00076350 that support high quality care for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00361-00076351-00076662 all senior australians in the country mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00362-00076663-00076791 president i'll take the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00363-00076792-00076950 the interjection from the other side mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00364-00076951-00077103 president because at the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00365-00077104-00077406 at the last at the last budget when we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00366-00077407-00077462 put +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00367-00077463-00077679 billions of dollars into aged care what +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00368-00077680-00077831 did the opposition put +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00369-00077832-00078038 in respect of aged care in their budget +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00370-00078039-00079526 reply not a single dollar +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00371-00079527-00079735 i didn't hear anything unparliamentary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00372-00079736-00079903 senator wong is on her feet and to get +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00373-00079904-00080087 into withdrawals we also have crocodile +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00374-00080088-00080206 tears which impugns +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00375-00080207-00080359 what we are asking when we're asking +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00376-00080360-00080535 about neglect but i don't propose to go +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00377-00080536-00080623 down that path +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00378-00080624-00081006 i'm raising an issue of direct relevance +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00379-00081007-00081406 this minister is asked not +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00380-00081407-00081847 i'm sorry order i can't +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00381-00081848-00082682 order senator wong has got the call +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00382-00082683-00082959 interjections +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00383-00082960-00083159 i missed something completely senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00384-00083160-00083294 long on the point of order +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00385-00083295-00083615 let's no +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00386-00083616-00084135 i don't actually i just want to make it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00387-00084136-00084399 mr president we're asking questions +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00388-00084400-00084487 about +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00389-00084488-00084823 some very serious uh allegations there +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00390-00084824-00084959 is one question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00391-00084960-00085118 that the minister has been asked which +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00392-00085119-00085335 is how is the neglect continuing on his +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00393-00085336-00085494 watch more than 12 months after he's +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00394-00085495-00085599 received the royal commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00395-00085600-00085815 report i'd ask you to remind him of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00396-00085816-00085926 question um +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00397-00085927-00086175 senator wong i believe the minister was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00398-00086176-00086335 being directly relevant and then and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00399-00086336-00086447 then responded +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00400-00086448-00086718 to interjections which was not being +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00401-00086719-00086903 directly relevant +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00402-00086904-00087031 i will remind the minister of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00403-00087032-00087199 question i'll also remind people not to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00404-00087200-00087399 interject and therefore the distraction +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00405-00087400-00087647 and the opportunity won't occur senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00406-00087648-00087806 kolbeck to continue +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00407-00087807-00088031 thank you mr president mr president and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00408-00088032-00088191 of course with respect to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00409-00088192-00088335 the interim report of the royal +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00410-00088336-00088647 commission and of course the covert 19 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00411-00088648-00088767 report of the royal commission the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00412-00088768-00088911 government has responded +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00413-00088912-00089206 to both of those reports we have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00414-00089207-00089415 continued to reform the sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00415-00089416-00089718 passing new legislation which places +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00416-00089719-00089862 additional responsibilities on the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00417-00089863-00090031 sector the serious incident response +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00418-00090032-00090215 scheme which was passed through this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00419-00090216-00090471 uh place only last week mr president so +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00420-00090472-00090718 we have continued to reform the sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00421-00090719-00090935 um as a as while the royal commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00422-00090936-00091150 has continued and we will continue to do +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00423-00091151-00091335 sorry senator senator birmingham on a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00424-00091336-00091462 point of order +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00425-00091463-00091606 mr president make a point of order in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00426-00091607-00091799 relation to conduct in the chamber and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00427-00091800-00091935 interjections +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00428-00091936-00092111 senator wong in making her point of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00429-00092112-00092318 order before demanded +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00430-00092319-00092503 complete silence in the chamber before +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00431-00092504-00092694 she spoke and yet +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00432-00092695-00092894 since senator colbeck got back on his +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00433-00092895-00093135 feet senator wong has shown nothing but +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00434-00093136-00093294 lack of courtesy in listening to that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00435-00093295-00093374 answer +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00436-00093375-00093550 and showing double standard in relation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00437-00093551-00093743 to the behaviour that she expected +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00438-00093744-00093974 when she was on her feet all +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00439-00093975-00094135 interjections +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00440-00094136-00094462 are disorderly order i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00441-00094463-00094606 i'm going to ask that people at least +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00442-00094607-00095079 stop the interjections while i talk +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00443-00095080-00095431 it's the end of a fortnight i'm going to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00444-00095432-00095574 ask people +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00445-00095575-00095950 to restrain themselves +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00446-00095951-00096103 i was attempting to call the chamber to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00447-00096104-00096279 order i will start raising my voice if i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00448-00096280-00096423 need to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00449-00096424-00096606 but interjections are not helpful and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00450-00096607-00096726 they are disorderly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00451-00096727-00096903 senator pratt a supplementary question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00452-00096904-00097079 thank you mr president a few days +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00453-00097080-00097318 after the alleged neglect mr lee became +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00454-00097319-00097391 ill +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00455-00097392-00097526 and his daughter's concerns that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00456-00097527-00097703 something was seriously wrong +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00457-00097704-00097967 were dismissed mr lee was eventually +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00458-00097968-00098118 rushed to hospital where he was in a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00459-00098119-00098174 cover +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00460-00098175-00098479 coma had liver failure and he died the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00461-00098480-00098631 next day +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00462-00098632-00098791 so i asked when did the minister first +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00463-00098792-00098999 become aware of mr lee's tragic death +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00464-00099000-00099199 and what action has he taken to ensure +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00465-00099200-00099311 this neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00466-00099312-00099726 never happens again senator kolbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00467-00099727-00099959 thank you mr president can i say it is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00468-00099960-00100062 really +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00469-00100063-00100255 um this whole matter is and the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00470-00100256-00100391 allegations that surrounded are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00471-00100392-00100591 extremely distressing distressing for us +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00472-00100592-00100679 all +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00473-00100680-00100943 but can i say the matter is not helped +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00474-00100944-00101071 by +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00475-00101072-00101199 questions from the opposition that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00476-00101200-00101374 please that that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00477-00101375-00101703 leave that leave out vitals +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00478-00101704-00101903 that are a part of this case mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00479-00101904-00102015 president that leave +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00480-00102016-00102406 outside please resume your seat +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00481-00102407-00102599 can't hear the minister's answer i need +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00482-00102600-00102742 to be able to hear it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00483-00102743-00103030 senator colbert to continue thank you mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00484-00103031-00103127 president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00485-00103128-00103334 mr president it is really disappointing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00486-00103335-00103447 that the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00487-00103448-00103790 opposition leaves out vital elements of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00488-00103791-00103966 what was even in the media this morning +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00489-00103967-00104166 as part of their question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00490-00104167-00104447 uh to cast an impression that actually +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00491-00104448-00104527 isn't true +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00492-00104528-00104790 mr president the the gentleman concerned +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00493-00104791-00105151 was attended by gp +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00494-00105152-00105415 the genuine concern was attended by a gp +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00495-00105416-00105575 this was not an act of the aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00496-00105576-00105734 facility +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00497-00105735-00105951 so for the labor party to come in here +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00498-00105952-00106095 and try and create the impression that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00499-00106096-00106143 it was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00500-00106144-00106407 is quite frankly completely dishonest +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00501-00106408-00106566 and i've been very very careful with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00502-00106567-00106671 respect to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00503-00106672-00107254 the circumstances and the details +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00504-00107255-00107495 senator senator pratt a a final +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00505-00107496-00107575 supplement +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00506-00107576-00107807 older australians in residential aged +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00507-00107808-00107878 care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00508-00107879-00108134 have died this year as a result of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00509-00108135-00108351 neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00510-00108352-00108831 senator kolbeck mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00511-00108832-00109190 every person in this chamber would abhor +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00512-00109191-00109415 any circumstance where a senior +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00513-00109416-00109527 australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00514-00109528-00109775 has had that circumstance occur every +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00515-00109776-00109831 single +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00516-00109832-00110102 every single one of us would have done +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00517-00110103-00110263 would have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00518-00110264-00110551 that view that is why this government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00519-00110552-00110631 that is why +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00520-00110632-00110815 this government called the royal +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00521-00110816-00111007 commission because we want to reform +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00522-00111008-00111127 this sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00523-00111128-00111327 in a way that provides high quality care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00524-00111328-00111534 to senior australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00525-00111535-00111702 senator senator kolbeck senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00526-00111703-00111871 gallagher on a point of order thank you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00527-00111872-00111990 mr deputy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00528-00111991-00112231 point of order on relevance um the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00529-00112232-00112383 question was very direct +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00530-00112383-00112631 um there was no preamble it was how many +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00531-00112632-00112710 australians have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00532-00112711-00112878 in residential aged care have died this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00533-00112879-00113039 year as a result of neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00534-00113040-00113166 i'd ask the minister to come to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00535-00113167-00113366 question answer of the question quite +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00536-00113367-00113519 right senator gallagher +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00537-00113520-00113695 i have previously ruled that where there +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00538-00113696-00113902 is a specific question that relates to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00539-00113903-00114023 the search for a fact +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00540-00114024-00114215 directly relevant will be applied very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00541-00114216-00114463 very tightly i call the minister to turn +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00542-00114464-00114663 to the question senator kolbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00543-00114664-00114943 thank you mr president um there there +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00544-00114944-00115047 have been +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00545-00115048-00115366 over the course of the last 12 months +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00546-00115367-00115710 um a number of allegations of neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00547-00115711-00115919 in aged care and we're dealing with some +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00548-00115920-00116054 of those as a part of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00549-00116055-00116199 the questions that we're being asked +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00550-00116200-00116375 today mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00551-00116376-00116678 well mister mr mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00552-00116679-00116895 uh senator polly interjection says that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00553-00116896-00117047 they're more than allegations but can i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00554-00117048-00117086 say +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00555-00117088-00117271 that's exactly what they are they are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00556-00117272-00117447 allegations at this point in time +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00557-00117448-00117695 order senator i've got senator wong on a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00558-00117696-00117863 point of order senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00559-00117864-00118047 i'll i'll call senator wong when +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00560-00118048-00118158 senators on my left give her an +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00561-00118159-00118278 opportunity to be heard +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00562-00118279-00118431 senator wong thank you mr president i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00563-00118432-00118566 repeat senator gallagher's point of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00564-00118567-00118607 order +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00565-00118608-00118983 um yes this was a specific factual +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00566-00118983-00119310 question that for which an +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00567-00119311-00119543 answer can be provided or a discussion +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00568-00119544-00119807 of the topic in question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00569-00119808-00119975 i have previously ruled that where there +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00570-00119976-00120223 is no preamble or commentary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00571-00120224-00120478 or politically contestable terms that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00572-00120479-00120614 questions need to be taken +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00573-00120615-00120807 strictly at their face value so minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00574-00120808-00120943 i remind you of the question senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00575-00120944-00121071 kolbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00576-00121072-00121375 mr president uh i have allegations of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00577-00121376-00121583 people who may have died of neglect but +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00578-00121583-00121654 i have no +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00579-00121655-00121886 direct evidence of anyone who has died +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00580-00121888-00122078 off neglect senator kolbek thank you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00581-00122079-00122502 senator thorpe thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00582-00122503-00122647 my question is to the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00583-00122648-00122910 representing the prime minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00584-00122911-00123110 in an extreme act of violence an +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00585-00123111-00123286 aboriginal woman and her baby +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00586-00123288-00123607 were attacked by a nazi with a flame +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00587-00123608-00123895 thrower this week why hasn't the prime +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00588-00123896-00123975 minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00589-00123976-00124254 had anything to say about this the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00590-00124255-00124439 minister representing the prime minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00591-00124440-00124910 senator birmingham +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00592-00124911-00125175 thanks um thanks mr president and and i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00593-00125176-00125263 thank senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00594-00125264-00125663 thorpe for her question uh i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00595-00125664-00126014 am aware um of an investigation by wa +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00596-00126015-00126247 police into a reported assault +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00597-00126248-00126558 i have heard media commentary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00598-00126559-00126831 along the lines of of that which you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00599-00126832-00126934 have described +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00600-00126935-00127254 as senator thorpe let me make very clear +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00601-00127255-00127599 if those facts are true +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00602-00127600-00127854 then of course they are to completely +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00603-00127855-00128063 and utterly be condemned +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00604-00128064-00128366 and they are shameful all forms of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00605-00128367-00128495 hatred and division +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00606-00128496-00128775 are unacceptable and should be condemned +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00607-00128776-00128847 and i have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00608-00128848-00129183 no doubt sorry senator thorpe on a point +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00609-00129183-00129423 of order senator thorpe +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00610-00129424-00129839 uh relevance uh president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00611-00129840-00129990 my question is why hasn't the prime +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00612-00129991-00130214 minister said anything or the so-called +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00613-00130215-00130566 leader of this country senator thorpe +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00614-00130567-00130814 the minister has been speaking for 39 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00615-00130815-00130902 seconds +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00616-00130903-00131111 he was discussing directly the first +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00617-00131112-00131263 part of the question which i think is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00618-00131264-00131399 directly relevant i've allowed you to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00619-00131400-00131590 restate the second part of the question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00620-00131591-00131727 but i believe he's being directly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00621-00131728-00131871 relevant by addressing the facts that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00622-00131872-00131966 you outlined +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00623-00131967-00132175 at the at the context of your question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00624-00132176-00132302 senator birmingham +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00625-00132303-00132471 thanks mr president as i was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00626-00132472-00132654 mid-sentence saying i have no doubt the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00627-00132655-00132766 prime minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00628-00132767-00132990 would share my condemnation of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00629-00132991-00133071 events +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00630-00133072-00133431 the horror of all australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00631-00133432-00133751 order order +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00632-00133752-00134119 order would share +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00633-00134120-00134454 the condemnation i am sure of all +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00634-00134455-00134751 fair thinking australians of the events +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00635-00134752-00134935 senator thorpe a supplementary question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00636-00134936-00135278 thank you mr president this government's +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00637-00135279-00135719 silence is violence +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00638-00135720-00135959 why does this government condone these +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00639-00135960-00136095 attacks by saying +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00640-00136096-00136502 nothing which just means you contribute +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00641-00136503-00136966 to the problem senator birmingham +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00642-00136967-00137190 mr president i reject the question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00643-00137191-00137335 entirely +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00644-00137336-00137607 the government in no way condones such +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00645-00137608-00137719 horrific events +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00646-00137720-00138175 and unreservedly condemns them order +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00647-00138176-00138511 order i'll call i will call senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00648-00138512-00138807 thorpe when the silence +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00649-00138808-00138959 senator thorpe final supplementary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00650-00138960-00139239 question thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00651-00139240-00139551 what are you doing about these +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00652-00139552-00140014 white nationalist terrorists +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00653-00140015-00140287 if these terrorists were anything other +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00654-00140288-00140327 than +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00655-00140328-00140647 white you would have moved +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00656-00140648-00141151 heaven and earth to find them +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00657-00141152-00141543 senator birmingham thanks mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00658-00141544-00141878 mr president the government rejects +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00659-00141879-00142095 extremism in all of its forms +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00660-00142096-00142399 including right-wing extremism +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00661-00142400-00142711 or any other order our increase +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00662-00142712-00142990 in funding and support our increasing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00663-00142991-00143119 funding and support +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00664-00143120-00143431 for agencies such as asio to be able to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00665-00143432-00143559 respond +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00666-00143560-00144175 to extremism order enables +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00667-00144176-00144502 enables the security agencies as they +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00668-00144503-00144583 have done +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00669-00144584-00144863 to identify the rise in different types +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00670-00144864-00144990 of extremism +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00671-00144991-00145214 including the rise in right-wing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00672-00145215-00145423 extremism +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00673-00145424-00145663 the government has funded the agencies +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00674-00145664-00145775 to do that work +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00675-00145776-00146078 because we know that it needs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00676-00146079-00146302 effective law enforcement and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00677-00146303-00146439 intelligence activities +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00678-00146440-00146702 to respond to it that's why we've taken +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00679-00146703-00146854 that action it's why we support that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00680-00146855-00146983 work of our agencies +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00681-00146984-00147287 and we will continue to do so regardless +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00682-00147288-00147559 of whatever type of extremism it relates +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00683-00147560-00147647 to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00684-00147648-00147895 senator mcallister thanks very much mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00685-00147896-00148063 president my question is to the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00686-00148064-00148287 for women senator payne +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00687-00148288-00148535 the respected work report was delivered +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00688-00148536-00148726 almost a year ago +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00689-00148727-00148911 in his speech at the international +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00690-00148912-00149102 women's day breakfast this morning +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00691-00149103-00149414 mr morrison said and i quote my hope is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00692-00149415-00149599 that we will live in a society where we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00693-00149600-00149719 can truly say +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00694-00149720-00149983 that women are respected because from +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00695-00149984-00150119 the disrespect of women +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00696-00150120-00150390 all the other challenges flow it starts +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00697-00150391-00150654 with the failure of respect for women +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00698-00150655-00150863 can the minister explain why the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00699-00150864-00150983 attorney general +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00700-00150984-00151271 mr porter has sat on the respect at work +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00701-00151272-00151454 report for almost a year +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00702-00151455-00151654 without implementing a single +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00703-00151655-00151847 substantive legislative +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00704-00151848-00152135 recommendation the minister for women +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00705-00152136-00152375 senator payne +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00706-00152376-00152614 thank you very much mr president and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00707-00152615-00152814 just to clarify senator mccallister i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00708-00152815-00152943 believe you asked me as minister for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00709-00152944-00153078 women but i do also represent the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00710-00153079-00153175 attorney general +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00711-00153176-00153463 uh in this place as the senator has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00712-00153464-00153543 advice has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00713-00153544-00153783 indicated this government commissioned +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00714-00153784-00153943 the respect at work +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00715-00153944-00154214 report into sexual harassment in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00716-00154215-00154366 australian workplaces +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00717-00154367-00154566 which as the senator has indicated was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00718-00154567-00154887 tabled by the government last year +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00719-00154888-00155031 sexual harassment in australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00720-00155032-00155247 workplaces which of course has been +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00721-00155248-00155743 uh in its most uh appalling uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00722-00155744-00155990 in its most appalling representation uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00723-00155991-00156071 the subject +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00724-00156072-00156399 of significant discussion in this place +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00725-00156400-00156695 in the last weeks it is an issue that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00726-00156696-00156895 can affect any workplace and so the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00727-00156896-00156966 report +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00728-00156967-00157207 by the sex discrimination commissioner +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00729-00157208-00157351 and her team +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00730-00157352-00157711 is a very important report which needs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00731-00157712-00157975 we believe a unified national response +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00732-00157976-00158151 from all australian governments +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00733-00158152-00158471 as well as from employers and industry +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00734-00158472-00158759 so as part of the budget uh last budget +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00735-00158760-00158871 2021 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00736-00158872-00159102 including in the 2020 women's economic +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00737-00159103-00159239 security statement +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00738-00159240-00159454 the government announced 2.1 million +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00739-00159455-00159654 dollars over three years to provide +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00740-00159655-00159854 practical support to employers and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00741-00159855-00159959 employees +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00742-00159960-00160190 to prevent and address sexual harassment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00743-00160191-00160414 in australian workplaces +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00744-00160415-00160647 that funding will contribute towards the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00745-00160648-00160878 implementation of key recommendations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00746-00160879-00161223 from the ahrc's landmark report +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00747-00161224-00161519 and that includes the council itself +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00748-00161520-00161711 which will be led by sex discrimination +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00749-00161712-00161871 commissioner kate jenkins +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00750-00161872-00162039 will bring together existing leaders +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00751-00162040-00162183 from bodies with a role +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00752-00162184-00162326 in preventing and responding to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00753-00162327-00162511 workplace sexual harassment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00754-00162512-00162687 the council will work to promote safer +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00755-00162688-00162887 workplaces and provide +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00756-00162888-00163151 high level advice senator mcallister on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00757-00163152-00163311 a point of order senator mccallister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00758-00163312-00163487 uh i have been listening to the answer +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00759-00163488-00163719 but my point of order goes to relevance +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00760-00163720-00163863 i asked specifically +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00761-00163864-00164095 about the failure to implement a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00762-00164096-00164190 substantive +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00763-00164191-00164375 any of the substantive legislative +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00764-00164376-00164502 recommendations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00765-00164503-00164783 i'd like the minister to address that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00766-00164784-00164966 part of the question which was a narrow +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00767-00164967-00165135 question i allowed you to remind the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00768-00165136-00165302 minister of the question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00769-00165303-00165495 i think it is in order and being +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00770-00165496-00165743 directly relevant for the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00771-00165744-00166071 to be discussing other measures +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00772-00166072-00166278 the government has taken and that is an +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00773-00166279-00166423 opportunity that can be debated after +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00774-00166424-00166583 question time as to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00775-00166584-00166735 the senate's consideration of those +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00776-00166736-00166926 answers senator payne +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00777-00166927-00167087 thank you mr president i was referring +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00778-00167088-00167254 to the recommendation in relation to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00779-00167255-00167311 council +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00780-00167312-00167423 which will be led by the sex +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00781-00167424-00167647 discrimination commissioner that funding +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00782-00167648-00167814 through the budget will also support the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00783-00167815-00167975 implementation of nine other key +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00784-00167976-00168183 recommendations from the report +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00785-00168184-00168390 including uh the development of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00786-00168391-00168511 online information +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00787-00168512-00168678 time for the answer has expired senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00788-00168679-00168823 mcallister a supplementary question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00789-00168824-00168999 thanks mr president the australian human +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00790-00169000-00169199 rights commission has recommended +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00791-00169200-00169431 the amendment of the sex discrimination +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00792-00169432-00169502 act +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00793-00169503-00169847 to and i quote introduce a positive duty +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00794-00169848-00170087 on employers to take reasonable and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00795-00170088-00170214 proportionate measures +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00796-00170215-00170478 to eliminate sex discrimination sexual +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00797-00170479-00170575 harassment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00798-00170576-00170854 and victimization will the morrison +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00799-00170855-00170919 government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00800-00170920-00171143 amend the sex discrimination act to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00801-00171144-00171407 reflect this recommendation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00802-00171408-00171663 senator payne thank you mr president the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00803-00171664-00171807 government is as i was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00804-00171808-00172054 uh saying mr president considering the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00805-00172055-00172302 recommendations of the report it was a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00806-00172303-00172359 very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00807-00172360-00172647 wide-ranging report and deliberately so +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00808-00172648-00172831 mr president it considered matters that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00809-00172832-00173038 are relevant to business to industry +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00810-00173039-00173278 to independent agencies to education +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00811-00173279-00173423 providers to state and tertiary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00812-00173424-00173495 governments and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00813-00173496-00173687 to the commonwealth i referred to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00814-00173688-00173902 online information platform mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00815-00173903-00174095 which is recommendation 48 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00816-00174096-00174423 recommendations 9 34 36 37 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00817-00174424-00174766 40 and 52 concerning the uh the package +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00818-00174767-00175031 of training and education resources +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00819-00175032-00175214 mcallister yes my point of order is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00820-00175215-00175351 relevance um +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00821-00175352-00175583 the question went to a specific +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00822-00175584-00175759 recommendation made by the australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00823-00175760-00175902 human rights commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00824-00175903-00176078 i've asked the minister will the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00825-00176079-00176238 government be +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00826-00176239-00176535 implementing that recommendation i have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00827-00176536-00176663 not asked about the other +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00828-00176664-00176895 recommendations in the report +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00829-00176896-00177071 um you've reminded the minister of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00830-00177072-00177247 question and again i remind ministers +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00831-00177248-00177407 that where there is a very specific +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00832-00177408-00177623 question and i do consider this question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00833-00177624-00177878 relatively specific in nature referring +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00834-00177879-00177935 to a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00835-00177936-00178102 recommendation i believe it was the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00836-00178103-00178263 language i caught um +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00837-00178264-00178454 that their comments should be addressed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00838-00178455-00178631 to matters that are directly relevant to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00839-00178632-00178759 that particular issue +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00840-00178760-00178966 senator payne to continue thank you mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00841-00178967-00179119 president i believe i still had +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00842-00179120-00179326 half of my time available to me to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00843-00179327-00179575 respond to the senator's question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00844-00179576-00179719 i was referring to those other +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00845-00179720-00179919 recommendations and recommendation too +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00846-00179920-00180038 in relation to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00847-00180039-00180326 a 2022 survey a specific recommendation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00848-00180327-00180511 to evaluate the effectiveness of these +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00849-00180512-00180590 new measures +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00850-00180591-00180783 to track levels of sexual harassment the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00851-00180784-00180935 government is considering the other +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00852-00180936-00181095 recommendations including the one that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00853-00181096-00181302 senator mcallister has referred to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00854-00181303-00181583 and will respond in due course senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00855-00181584-00181751 mcallister a final supplementary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00856-00181752-00181814 question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00857-00181815-00182014 thank you when launching the respect at +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00858-00182015-00182199 work report the minister said and i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00859-00182200-00182414 quote i take these recommendations very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00860-00182415-00182623 seriously and i'm committed to ensuring +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00861-00182624-00182807 that sexual harassment is eradicated +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00862-00182808-00183031 from workplaces in this country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00863-00183032-00183311 a year on with not a single substantive +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00864-00183312-00183566 legislative recommendation implemented +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00865-00183567-00183775 what is the minister doing to deliver on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00866-00183776-00183919 this commitment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00867-00183920-00184102 senator payne thank you very much mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00868-00184103-00184287 president i have already alluded to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00869-00184288-00184399 recommendations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00870-00184400-00184614 in the report that were taken up in the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00871-00184615-00184799 women's economic security statement in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00872-00184800-00184926 october last year +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00873-00184927-00185102 the specific recommendations that i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00874-00185103-00185263 actually don't think senator mcallister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00875-00185264-00185438 wanted to hear about +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00876-00185439-00185614 those specific recommendations that are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00877-00185615-00185790 being pursued through that process the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00878-00185791-00185911 attorney general +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00879-00185912-00186135 who with whom i work on these matters +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00880-00186136-00186287 and now welcome very much the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00881-00186288-00186438 opportunity to work with my colleague +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00882-00186439-00186566 senator stoker +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00883-00186567-00186702 who has specific portfolio +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00884-00186703-00186878 responsibility in this area with the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00885-00186879-00187023 attorney general as the assistant +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00886-00187024-00187126 minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00887-00187127-00187366 we met indeed in this parliamentary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00888-00187367-00187599 sitting mr president to discuss these +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00889-00187600-00187647 issues +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00890-00187648-00187823 it's a matter the government takes very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00891-00187824-00187959 seriously there were +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00892-00187960-00188366 as i said i think 50 uh 55 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00893-00188367-00188471 recommendations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00894-00188472-00188735 uh in total 20 to the co for the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00895-00188736-00188863 commonwealth government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00896-00188864-00189135 uh another four that uh did propose to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00897-00189136-00189287 the respect at work council +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00898-00189288-00189423 12 that are shared between the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00899-00189424-00189575 commonwealth and state and territory +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00900-00189576-00189654 governments +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00901-00189655-00189863 uh 13 for government agencies and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00902-00189864-00190095 regulators three for education providers +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00903-00190096-00190254 and three for business and industry +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00904-00190255-00190407 it's a whole of government whole of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00905-00190408-00190543 community whole of australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00906-00190544-00190871 responsibility mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00907-00190872-00191111 senator roberts thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00908-00191112-00191247 my question is to the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00909-00191248-00191414 representing the minister for energy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00910-00191415-00191678 senator seselja minister the western +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00911-00191679-00191871 australian liberal national party +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00912-00191872-00192119 opposition has committed to shut down +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00913-00192120-00192463 western australian coal power by 2025. +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00914-00192464-00192663 in the place of reliable base load coal +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00915-00192664-00192895 power will be 16 billion dollars of wind +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00916-00192896-00193071 and solar power +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00917-00193072-00193302 the role of maintaining backup power +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00918-00193303-00193414 into the entire +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00919-00193415-00193623 western australian grid when wind and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00920-00193624-00193854 solar fail as they inevitably do +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00921-00193855-00194126 will fall on a battery minister can you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00922-00194127-00194287 please explain to the house +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00923-00194288-00194607 how western australia's 2 500 megawatts +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00924-00194608-00194799 of average daily power use +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00925-00194800-00195054 can be met by a battery and how many +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00926-00195055-00195135 calm +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00927-00195136-00195359 rainy days in a row will put the entire +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00928-00195360-00195511 state into a blackout +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00929-00195512-00195726 the minister for energy and emission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00930-00195727-00195847 representing the minister for energy and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00931-00195848-00196135 emissions reduction senator selja +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00932-00196136-00196302 thank you very much and i thank senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00933-00196303-00196471 roberts for the question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00934-00196472-00196807 uh in terms of the detail of the western +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00935-00196808-00196895 australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00936-00196896-00197159 uh liberal opposition's uh policy i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00937-00197160-00197326 can't speak to the absolute detail of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00938-00197327-00197390 that so +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00939-00197391-00197607 i could take some of that on notice uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00940-00197608-00197766 but when it comes to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00941-00197767-00198102 but when it comes to energy security uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00942-00198103-00198390 and the need to take action uh our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00943-00198391-00198543 government of course has laid its +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00944-00198544-00198663 priorities on the table +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00945-00198664-00198990 and so uh those priorities of course +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00946-00198991-00199078 include +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00947-00199079-00199335 a strong focus on reliable and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00948-00199336-00199519 affordable energy and whether that's +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00949-00199520-00199775 uh with our plans when it comes to gas +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00950-00199776-00199863 whether that's in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00951-00199864-00200119 record investment in renewables uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00952-00200120-00200311 whether that is an extending +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00953-00200312-00200566 life of other base load power whether +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00954-00200567-00200638 that is in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00955-00200639-00200935 snowy hydro 2.0 uh whether that is the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00956-00200936-00201063 work we are doing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00957-00201064-00201287 with the battery for the nation we have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00958-00201288-00201423 a proud record +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00959-00201424-00201702 of ensuring that we have reliable and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00960-00201703-00201814 affordable power +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00961-00201815-00202047 whilst investing in renewable energy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00962-00202048-00202247 meeting our emissions reductions targets +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00963-00202248-00202414 on an international scale +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00964-00202415-00202575 and creating jobs and supporting +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00965-00202576-00202799 manufacturing but in terms of the detail +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00966-00202800-00203054 of some of those policies you go to i'm +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00967-00203055-00203214 happy to take those on notice +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00968-00203215-00203414 senator roberts a supplementary question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00969-00203415-00203526 thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00970-00203527-00203743 minister the liberal nationals plan is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00971-00203744-00204038 to build 4500 megawatts of wind and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00972-00204039-00204126 solar +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00973-00204127-00204399 to replace the 1050 megawatts of base +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00974-00204400-00204599 load power that coal provides +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00975-00204600-00204855 what is the reliability factor of wind +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00976-00204856-00204966 and solar +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00977-00204967-00205175 because this policy puts wind and solar +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00978-00205176-00205286 deliverability +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00979-00205287-00205631 at just 23 of rated capacity +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00980-00205632-00205879 senator selja well thank you very much +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00981-00205880-00206071 and again going to the detail of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00982-00206071-00206214 that policy i'm happy to take some of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00983-00206215-00206414 that on notice but +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00984-00206415-00206662 there is no doubt uh that when it comes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00985-00206663-00206838 to delivering on these policies +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00986-00206839-00206998 we have made it very very clear over a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00987-00207000-00207190 period of time that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00988-00207191-00207455 wind and solar and renewables and of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00989-00207456-00207606 course we've got record investment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00990-00207607-00207871 in renewables in australia at the moment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00991-00207871-00208110 they are very important but you do +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00992-00208111-00208319 need to ensure you have base load +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00993-00208319-00208438 capacity +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00994-00208439-00208719 to ensure that we don't see the kind of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00995-00208719-00208798 uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00996-00208800-00208990 situation that we saw under the former +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00997-00208991-00209175 labor government in south australia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00998-00209176-00209351 uh where where the lights are going out +Ay7rHHy7MjY-00999-00209352-00209719 where electricity is not being delivered +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01000-00209719-00209903 all right thank you thank you for the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01001-00209904-00210110 interjection senator wong +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01002-00210111-00210342 it is it is true that uh the only +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01003-00210344-00210494 statewide blackout +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01004-00210496-00210663 that i'm aware of in recent times did +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01005-00210664-00210798 happen in south australia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01006-00210800-00210998 under the watch of the south australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01007-00211000-00211206 labor government uh but when it comes to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01008-00211207-00211279 actual +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01009-00211280-00211567 investment in energy uh it is absolutely +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01010-00211567-00211631 important +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01011-00211632-00211831 and i'll just i'll just state it again +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01012-00211832-00212094 i'll just state it again +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01013-00212096-00212382 i might do it on the next step senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01014-00212383-00212551 roberts a final supplementary question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01015-00212552-00212831 president thank you minister how many +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01016-00212832-00213015 workers will lose their jobs from the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01017-00213016-00213198 coal industry in western australia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01018-00213200-00213375 as a result of this liberal national +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01019-00213376-00213623 party policy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01020-00213623-00214142 senator senator saselja +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01021-00214144-00214351 well i think i thank senator roberts for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01022-00214352-00214455 the question and again +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01023-00214456-00214679 going to the detail that policy uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01024-00214680-00214839 without having read that particular +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01025-00214840-00214934 policy document +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01026-00214935-00215127 it would be impossible for me to comment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01027-00215128-00215303 uh one way or another but what i can +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01028-00215304-00215375 tell you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01029-00215376-00215575 uh is that our liberal national +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01030-00215576-00215831 government uh has been focused on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01031-00215832-00216071 ensuring that we are growing jobs in the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01032-00216071-00216142 economy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01033-00216144-00216327 bringing job back jobs back as we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01034-00216328-00216463 recover from covert +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01035-00216464-00216703 investing in our energy resources so we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01036-00216704-00216782 can support +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01037-00216783-00217015 a strong manufacturing sector whether +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01038-00217016-00217110 that is in our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01039-00217111-00217351 technology focus whether that is in our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01040-00217352-00217431 focus on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01041-00217432-00217679 gas whether that is in our investment in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01042-00217680-00217767 renewables +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01043-00217767-00217934 whether that is in extending the life of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01044-00217935-00218151 power stations whether that is in areas +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01045-00218152-00218334 like snowy hydro 2.0 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01046-00218335-00218623 we have a comprehensive policy that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01047-00218623-00218734 supports energy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01048-00218735-00218951 reliable to affordable energy we are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01049-00218952-00219119 bringing prices down +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01050-00219119-00219319 that supports a viable manufacturing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01051-00219319-00219510 industry amongst other industries +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01052-00219511-00219671 that's our record that's what we're +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01053-00219671-00219846 going to continue to fight for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01054-00219848-00220063 to bring back jobs and support reliable +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01055-00220064-00220294 and affordable energy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01056-00220296-00220598 senator small thanks mr president my +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01057-00220600-00220719 question is for the minister for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01058-00220719-00220910 employment skills small and family +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01059-00220911-00220958 business +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01060-00220959-00221239 senator cash with the vaccine rolled out +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01061-00221240-00221415 underway and continuing signs of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01062-00221416-00221646 economic recovery across the country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01063-00221648-00221791 can the minister please update the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01064-00221792-00221967 senate on how the morrison government's +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01065-00221967-00222215 economic supports through covert 19 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01066-00222216-00222391 have helped small businesses to ride out +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01067-00222392-00222623 the crisis and australians to stay in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01068-00222623-00222727 jobs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01069-00222728-00222942 the minister for employment skills small +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01070-00222944-00223151 and family business senator cash +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01071-00223152-00223327 thank you mr president and i uh thank +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01072-00223328-00223494 senator small for the question and again +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01073-00223496-00223623 acknowledge to the chamber +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01074-00223623-00223798 senator smalls background in particular +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01075-00223800-00223991 as being a small business owner back in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01076-00223992-00224175 our home state of western australia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01077-00224176-00224327 and the fact that he really understands +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01078-00224328-00224542 what it's like to build a business +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01079-00224544-00224775 for scratch from scratch to employ +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01080-00224776-00224975 people unite to pay wages and to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01081-00224976-00225151 certainly have sleepless nights +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01082-00225152-00225334 and mr president as we now know in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01083-00225335-00225615 australia the covert 19 vaccine rollout +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01084-00225616-00225719 is underway +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01085-00225719-00226015 and so is australia's economic recovery +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01086-00226016-00226175 according to the latest australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01087-00226176-00226327 bureau of statistics labor force +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01088-00226328-00226398 statistics +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01089-00226400-00226663 for january we've seen a net increase in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01090-00226664-00226719 jobs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01091-00226719-00227031 of 29 000 and that of course came off +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01092-00227032-00227231 the back of the creation of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01093-00227232-00227582 59 000 full-time jobs we've also +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01094-00227583-00227806 seen as senator payne knows uh women's +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01095-00227807-00227967 workforce participation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01096-00227967-00228167 returned to the near record levels it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01097-00228167-00228382 was prior to the pandemic +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01098-00228383-00228487 underemployment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01099-00228488-00228782 is now falling and as we know over 93 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01100-00228783-00228855 percent +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01101-00228856-00229158 of the jobs lost during clive at 19 have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01102-00229159-00229246 now returned +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01103-00229248-00229510 back to the economy mr president all of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01104-00229511-00229551 this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01105-00229552-00229775 all of this has been possible because of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01106-00229776-00229934 the support that the morrison government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01107-00229935-00230039 has provided +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01108-00230040-00230246 uh to in particular you know small and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01109-00230248-00230439 family businesses across australia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01110-00230440-00230606 uh we put in place policies that have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01111-00230607-00230775 kept australians uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01112-00230776-00230919 in work because we put in place the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01113-00230919-00231087 policies that kept businesses +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01114-00231088-00231342 in business these of course included job +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01115-00231344-00231423 keeper +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01116-00231423-00231639 apprentice and trainee wage subsidies +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01117-00231640-00231839 the cash flow boost that of course gave +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01118-00231840-00231927 people back +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01119-00231928-00232182 their own hard earned money the sme +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01120-00232183-00232303 guarantee scheme +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01121-00232304-00232519 the early withdrawal of superannuation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01122-00232519-00232775 we put in place a suite of policies +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01123-00232776-00233006 and this suite of policies have all +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01124-00233007-00233167 played a vital role +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01125-00233167-00233351 in fact when you look at the rba +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01126-00233352-00233615 research it estimates that job keepers +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01127-00233616-00233687 saved +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01128-00233688-00234006 over 700 000 jobs in the first half +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01129-00234007-00234294 of 2020. uh mr president our supporting +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01130-00234296-00234503 apprentices and trainee wage subsidy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01131-00234504-00234751 it's now supported over 59 000 small +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01132-00234752-00234831 businesses +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01133-00234832-00235191 to keep 119 000 apprentices on the job +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01134-00235192-00235542 where we needed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01135-00235544-00235775 thanks mr president minister can you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01136-00235776-00235975 outline how the labor market has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01137-00235976-00236191 has responded to the tapering of job +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01138-00236192-00236423 keeper and other covert 19 economic +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01139-00236423-00236487 supports +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01140-00236488-00236703 implemented by the morrison government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01141-00236704-00236823 senator cash +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01142-00236823-00236998 well mr president as i've said we've +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01143-00237000-00237158 seen now 93 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01144-00237159-00237487 or around 93 of the jobs that were lost +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01145-00237488-00237798 as a result of covert 19 return back +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01146-00237800-00238046 to the economy and what we are seeing is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01147-00238048-00238239 that the transition to the second +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01148-00238240-00238551 phase of job seeker has been successful +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01149-00238552-00238751 and what it is doing is ensuring that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01150-00238752-00238910 support is targeted +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01151-00238911-00239142 to those who need it most in fact +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01152-00239144-00239287 between september +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01153-00239288-00239598 and december of 2020 we saw the level +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01154-00239600-00239871 of economic support fall by 30 billion +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01155-00239871-00239967 dollars +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01156-00239967-00240198 at the same time the support was tapered +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01157-00240200-00240287 the economy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01158-00240288-00240639 added 320 000 jobs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01159-00240640-00240846 new analysis of tax micro data by +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01160-00240848-00241039 treasury shows that the number of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01161-00241040-00241255 phase two job keeper workers who are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01162-00241256-00241398 working zero +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01163-00241400-00241630 or very low hours has now been +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01164-00241631-00241751 decreasing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01165-00241752-00242023 over time but what we've also seen is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01166-00242023-00242182 record numbers of previously +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01167-00242183-00242439 unemployed people finding new jobs and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01168-00242440-00242598 in fact mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01169-00242600-00242863 uh to november 2020 we saw a record of a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01170-00242864-00243039 hundred and seventies +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01171-00243040-00243191 cash senators unemployed people the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01172-00243192-00243391 final supplementary question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01173-00243392-00243630 thank you mr president as the original +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01174-00243631-00243919 covert 19 supports begin to conclude +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01175-00243919-00244046 how will the morrison government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01176-00244048-00244246 continue to support small business +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01177-00244248-00244391 through the jobs recovery +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01178-00244392-00244710 over the course of 2021. senator cash +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01179-00244711-00244887 well mr president the prime minister has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01180-00244888-00245063 always said our number one +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01181-00245064-00245287 priority as a government is getting +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01182-00245288-00245391 australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01183-00245392-00245575 back into work keeping businesses in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01184-00245576-00245806 business and getting australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01185-00245807-00246087 back into work we of course have our 74 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01186-00246088-00246191 billion dollar +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01187-00246192-00246406 job maker plan that is as you know +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01188-00246407-00246598 supporting employers to hire to bring on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01189-00246600-00246719 additional people +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01190-00246719-00246910 into their workplace we're supporting +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01191-00246911-00247110 australians to train to up skill to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01192-00247111-00247206 reskill +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01193-00247207-00247423 and of course we're supporting hard +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01194-00247423-00247591 working small business owners +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01195-00247592-00247879 to grow their own business our economic +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01196-00247880-00248006 support measures have boosted +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01197-00248007-00248198 family and business balance sheets we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01198-00248200-00248519 now see over 200 billion dollars extra +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01199-00248519-00248830 in savings over the last year we're also +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01200-00248831-00248958 unlocking confidence +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01201-00248959-00249110 to spend that money which is a good +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01202-00249111-00249294 thing particularly in our small +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01203-00249296-00249423 businesses and as we know +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01204-00249423-00249606 small businesses they are the backbone +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01205-00249607-00249791 of the australian economy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01206-00249792-00250006 and we need to do everything that we can +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01207-00250007-00250134 to support them +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01208-00250135-00250310 we know that there's a long road ahead +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01209-00250311-00250455 uh but we are committed to boosting the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01210-00250456-00250630 confidence of australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01211-00250631-00250830 and of course ensuring that australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01212-00250831-00250958 order senator cash +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01213-00250959-00251167 senator rice thanks president my +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01214-00251167-00251294 question is the minister for foreign +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01215-00251296-00251479 affairs minister payne +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01216-00251480-00251694 minister the u.s government sought +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01217-00251696-00251919 extradition of australian citizen julian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01218-00251919-00252215 assange from the uk for espionage +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01219-00252216-00252455 espionage is a political offence for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01220-00252456-00252558 which expedite +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01221-00252559-00252830 extradition is expressly barred from the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01222-00252831-00252887 us +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01223-00252888-00253271 uk extradition treaty minister given the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01224-00253271-00253519 political nature of extradition +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01225-00253519-00253782 have you personally made representations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01226-00253783-00254039 to the incoming biden administration +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01227-00254040-00254327 to drop the u.s appeal against the uk +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01228-00254328-00254423 court decision +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01229-00254423-00254798 to not extradite mr assange and if not +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01230-00254800-00255046 will you the minister for foreign +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01231-00255048-00255198 affairs senator payne +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01232-00255200-00255375 thank you mr president i thank senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01233-00255376-00255639 russ for her question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01234-00255640-00255846 senator rice says i believe i have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01235-00255848-00256071 advised the chamber previously +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01236-00256071-00256271 i have raised the situation of mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01237-00256271-00256375 assange +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01238-00256376-00256606 with my previous united states +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01239-00256607-00256798 counterpart former secretary of state +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01240-00256800-00257127 pompeo i have not yet met with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01241-00257128-00257439 secretary of state anthony blinken but i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01242-00257440-00257687 am sure that in the course of such a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01243-00257688-00257975 meeting that this matter would be raised +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01244-00257976-00258294 senator rice a supplementary question um +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01245-00258296-00258615 minister my question is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01246-00258616-00258846 you know basically will you commit to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01247-00258848-00259006 picking up the phone +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01248-00259007-00259255 to be asking the u.s administration to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01249-00259256-00259423 drop the charges +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01250-00259423-00259782 against mr assange minister there were +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01251-00259783-00259879 reports +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01252-00259880-00260079 that the trump administration in the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01253-00260080-00260279 latter days of the trump +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01254-00260280-00260487 term was close to pardoning assange and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01255-00260488-00260606 may have done so +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01256-00260607-00260839 if they had received representations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01257-00260840-00260975 from the australian government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01258-00260976-00261167 will you pick up the phone to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01259-00261167-00261406 incoming biden administration +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01260-00261407-00261694 senator payne thank you very much mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01261-00261696-00261887 president as i again have previously +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01262-00261888-00262039 advised the chamber +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01263-00262040-00262319 mr assange is subject to a legal process +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01264-00262320-00262351 in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01265-00262352-00262575 another country australia does not +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01266-00262576-00262791 interfere in the legal processes of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01267-00262792-00263006 other countries and has long held that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01268-00263007-00263103 position across +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01269-00263104-00263358 multiple governments as we would not +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01270-00263359-00263415 expect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01271-00263416-00263647 other governments to to interfere in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01272-00263648-00263767 legal processes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01273-00263768-00263999 in our country strassange is currently +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01274-00264000-00264151 the subject of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01275-00264152-00264375 a united states appeal against the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01276-00264376-00264558 decision of the british courts +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01277-00264559-00264830 uh that he is ineligible for extradition +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01278-00264831-00264871 due +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01279-00264872-00265215 to the court forming a view in relation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01280-00265216-00265558 to risk of self-harm in the u.s prison +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01281-00265559-00265751 that appeal was lodged on the 12th of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01282-00265752-00265919 february i don't intend to provide a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01283-00265920-00266039 running commentary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01284-00266040-00266247 on the details of the case as it is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01285-00266248-00266423 before the courts +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01286-00266424-00266623 we consider we continue to monitor mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01287-00266624-00266823 assange's case closely as we do +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01288-00266824-00267071 for australians in detention overseas +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01289-00267072-00267230 senator rice a final supplementary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01290-00267231-00267279 question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01291-00267280-00267527 minister when is enough enough julian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01292-00267528-00267719 assange has suffered so much +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01293-00267720-00267934 and the judge in the uk cases basically +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01294-00267935-00268087 said that extradition +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01295-00268088-00268303 to the us is effectively a death +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01296-00268304-00268399 sentence +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01297-00268400-00268695 the u.s the u.n special rapporteur on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01298-00268696-00268775 torture +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01299-00268776-00268967 has said that the failure of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01300-00268968-00269151 judgment to denounce and redress the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01301-00269152-00269239 persecution +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01302-00269240-00269558 and torture of mr sanj leaves fully in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01303-00269559-00269855 intact the intended intimidating effect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01304-00269856-00270030 on journalists and whistleblowers +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01305-00270031-00270175 so it's is it the australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01306-00270176-00270782 government's position that extraditing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01307-00270783-00270982 thank you very much mr president uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01308-00270983-00271151 members of my office and of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01309-00271152-00271303 department of foreign affairs and trade +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01310-00271304-00271510 met with mr assange's legal team +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01311-00271511-00271799 uh in this sitting period to discuss a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01312-00271800-00271982 range of matters including the matter of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01313-00271983-00272103 mr assange +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01314-00272104-00272310 this government has sought through our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01315-00272311-00272423 consular uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01316-00272424-00272582 officials and through the department of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01317-00272583-00272695 foreign affairs and trade and the high +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01318-00272696-00272758 commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01319-00272759-00273079 are in britain to support mr assange in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01320-00273080-00273255 an appropriate consular fashion +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01321-00273256-00273519 in any way we could we have done that by +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01322-00273520-00273687 seeking his consent to discuss +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01323-00273688-00273895 any prison condition issues with prison +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01324-00273896-00274095 officials to offer him consular +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01325-00274096-00274182 assistance +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01326-00274183-00274463 we have done that on 21 separate time at +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01327-00274464-00274599 separate occasions +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01328-00274600-00274895 on 21 separate occasions noah's response +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01329-00274896-00274999 has been received +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01330-00275000-00275343 to that correspondence from mr assange +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01331-00275344-00275615 with his representatives the government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01332-00275616-00275647 has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01333-00275648-00275791 endeavored to provide him with that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01334-00275792-00275991 appropriate support senator was willing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01335-00275992-00276095 to do that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01336-00276096-00276303 he withdrew consent for us to consult in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01337-00276304-00276527 relation to any of his circumstances his +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01338-00276528-00276671 health or his welfare +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01339-00276672-00277063 in 2019. we have continued to raise +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01340-00277064-00277534 the government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01341-00277535-00277710 i called you to order and you kept +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01342-00277711-00277903 interjecting while i was doing so +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01343-00277904-00278279 please cease senator walsh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01344-00278280-00278447 my question is to the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01345-00278448-00278582 representing the minister for home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01346-00278583-00278655 affairs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01347-00278656-00278910 senator cash this morning the home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01348-00278911-00279079 affairs minister claimed he +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01349-00279080-00279319 is not allowed to disclose information +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01350-00279320-00279487 provided to him by the australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01351-00279488-00279639 federal police +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01352-00279640-00279871 but he also admitted to breaking that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01353-00279872-00280079 rule and providing information to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01354-00280080-00280255 prime minister's office +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01355-00280256-00280510 about brittany higgins case on february +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01356-00280511-00280623 12th +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01357-00280624-00280830 who in the prime minister's office +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01358-00280831-00281063 received that official information +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01359-00281064-00281463 and at what time was it received +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01360-00281464-00281623 the minister representing the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01361-00281624-00281855 for home affairs senator cash +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01362-00281856-00282079 uh thank you mr president and uh i thank +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01363-00282080-00282295 the senator for the question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01364-00282296-00282503 um i understand that the minister for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01365-00282504-00282655 home affairs has been asked this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01366-00282656-00282710 question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01367-00282711-00283006 in the house but the information that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01368-00283007-00283239 again i have before me +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01369-00283240-00283527 that i can provide you with is basically +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01370-00283528-00283727 what i've said stated yesterday +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01371-00283728-00283999 afp commissioner kershaw first advised +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01372-00284000-00284143 minister dutton +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01373-00284144-00284423 of ms higgins allegations on thursday +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01374-00284424-00284667 the 11th of february +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01375-00284668-00284934 2021 this was the first time the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01376-00284935-00285015 minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01377-00285016-00285182 had been advised of miss higgins +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01378-00285183-00285334 allegations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01379-00285335-00285510 as i advised yesterday he received +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01380-00285511-00285663 further updates from commissioner +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01381-00285664-00285743 kershaw +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01382-00285744-00285999 during last week and this week he was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01383-00286000-00286191 advised that his office was not aware of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01384-00286192-00286254 mrs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01385-00286255-00286575 higgins allegations prior to his +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01386-00286576-00286775 briefing from commissioner kershaw +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01387-00286776-00287087 on the 11th of february 2021 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01388-00287088-00287319 and again i think as i stated yesterday +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01389-00287320-00287463 as senators would know +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01390-00287464-00287606 the handling of allegations and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01391-00287607-00287806 investigation of criminal conduct +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01392-00287807-00288071 including briefing to ministers is a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01393-00288072-00288382 matter for the afp +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01394-00288383-00288654 further information that i can provide +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01395-00288655-00288910 the minister as the minister responsible +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01396-00288911-00289279 for the afp has stated that he regularly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01397-00289280-00289487 receives confidential briefings from the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01398-00289488-00289630 commission commissioner +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01399-00289631-00289871 he has a responsibility to protect the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01400-00289872-00290063 integrity of investigations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01401-00290064-00290271 and the information discussed in these +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01402-00290272-00290391 briefings +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01403-00290392-00290695 he has stated that it was his judgment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01404-00290696-00290854 that he should not disclose the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01405-00290855-00291103 information provided to him +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01406-00291104-00291343 as this was an ongoing operational +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01407-00291344-00291423 matter +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01408-00291424-00291654 i understand he's also advised that his +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01409-00291655-00291791 chief of staff +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01410-00291792-00292006 contacted the prime minister's office +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01411-00292007-00292151 the next day +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01412-00292152-00292447 on the 12th of february following the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01413-00292448-00292639 receipt of media inquiries and that's +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01414-00292640-00292919 the information that i have before me +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01415-00292920-00293230 senator walsh a supplementary question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01416-00293231-00293479 thank you president at any time was this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01417-00293480-00293630 minister aware of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01418-00293631-00293951 any estimates briefing being prepared in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01419-00293952-00294095 relation to the events +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01420-00294096-00294647 of the night of 2223 march 2019 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01421-00294648-00294895 senator cash uh thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01422-00294896-00295047 and i've referred to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01423-00295048-00295334 mr dutton's evidence uh that he is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01424-00295335-00295510 advised that his office was not aware of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01425-00295511-00295567 mrs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01426-00295568-00295847 higgins allegations prior to his +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01427-00295848-00295927 briefing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01428-00295928-00296158 from commissioner kershaw on the 11th of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01429-00296159-00296239 february +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01430-00296240-00296551 2021 and also his evidence that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01431-00296552-00296743 the afp commissioner kershaw first +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01432-00296744-00296887 advised him +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01433-00296888-00297095 of miss higgins allegations on thursday +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01434-00297096-00297230 the 11th of february +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01435-00297231-00297551 2021 and as such that was the first time +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01436-00297552-00297734 he was advised of miss higgins +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01437-00297735-00297919 allegations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01438-00297920-00298071 senator walsh final supplementary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01439-00298072-00298423 question in october 2019 the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01440-00298424-00298710 left a message from ms higgins saying +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01441-00298711-00298830 and i quote +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01442-00298831-00299087 daniel has got everything under control +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01443-00299088-00299239 i promise you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01444-00299240-00299454 at that time senator cash was the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01445-00299455-00299654 minister representing the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01446-00299655-00299958 for home affairs in the senate what +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01447-00299959-00300287 did daniel have under control +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01448-00300288-00300503 senator cash thank you mr president and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01449-00300504-00300654 ask senator walsh i actually responded +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01450-00300655-00300823 to that question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01451-00300824-00301054 when senator watt asked it of me and i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01452-00301055-00301367 would refer you back to that answer +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01453-00301368-00301663 senator betts thank you mr president my +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01454-00301664-00301839 question is to the minister for foreign +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01455-00301840-00302015 affairs senator payne +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01456-00302016-00302167 will the minister outline what the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01457-00302168-00302351 government is doing to deliver on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01458-00302352-00302582 australia's commitment to provide covert +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01459-00302583-00302799 19 vaccines to our neighbours +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01460-00302800-00303063 in southeast asia and in the pacific +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01461-00303064-00303215 sorry the minister for foreign affairs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01462-00303216-00303406 senator payne thank you mr president i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01463-00303407-00303647 thank senator roberts for his question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01464-00303648-00303863 mr president australia's security our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01465-00303864-00304015 safety and our prosperity +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01466-00304016-00304375 are intertwined with those in our region +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01467-00304376-00304567 we are working in close partnership with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01468-00304568-00304703 our neighbours to implement +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01469-00304704-00304927 our over 500 million dollar regional +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01470-00304928-00305103 vaccine access initiative +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01471-00305104-00305319 and our 80 million contribution to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01472-00305320-00305551 kovacs facilities fund for developing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01473-00305552-00305647 countries +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01474-00305648-00305830 that fund began its first delivery of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01475-00305831-00305967 vaccines yesterday +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01476-00305968-00306103 to protect some of the world's most +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01477-00306104-00306343 vulnerable people we're consulting +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01478-00306344-00306519 with 18 partner countries across the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01479-00306520-00306758 pacific and southeast asia to align +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01480-00306759-00306999 their national vaccine deployment plans +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01481-00307000-00307127 and directly address +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01482-00307128-00307382 their priorities our support is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01483-00307383-00307471 deliberately +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01484-00307472-00307743 end to end so we're providing technical +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01485-00307744-00307887 advice to support the rollout of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01486-00307888-00308134 vaccines under the kovacs facility +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01487-00308135-00308358 we have already assisted vanuatu +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01488-00308359-00308558 kiribati samoa and tonga +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01489-00308559-00308727 in this way in particular we're +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01490-00308728-00308895 supporting tonga to develop and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01491-00308896-00308951 implement +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01492-00308952-00309215 a new national vaccination register +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01493-00309216-00309391 we're deploying australian specialists +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01494-00309392-00309582 to work with these partner governments +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01495-00309583-00309758 our national center for immunisation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01496-00309759-00309919 research and surveillance +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01497-00309920-00310151 is deploying a specialist timor-leste to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01498-00310152-00310351 support preparations for their national +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01499-00310352-00310454 rollout +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01500-00310455-00310599 australia's therapeutic goods +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01501-00310600-00310806 administration is providing advice to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01502-00310807-00311006 our partners which is critical in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01503-00311007-00311215 building that trust in the safety and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01504-00311216-00311319 efficacy of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01505-00311320-00311567 vaccines our support includes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01506-00311568-00311782 identifying target populations for early +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01507-00311783-00311887 vaccinations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01508-00311888-00312087 developing public health materials +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01509-00312088-00312191 strengthening coal +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01510-00312192-00312406 chain and medical supply management and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01511-00312407-00312591 establishing monitoring and evaluation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01512-00312592-00312695 arrangements +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01513-00312696-00312839 for example we'll shortly be training +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01514-00312840-00313063 solomon islands epidemiologists in data +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01515-00313064-00313230 collection and analysis +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01516-00313231-00313391 my indonesian counterpart retinol +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01517-00313392-00313623 marsudi and i have agreed a strong +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01518-00313624-00313734 package of support +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01519-00313735-00314030 for indonesia to procure vaccines and to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01520-00314031-00314079 provide +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01521-00314080-00314358 technical assistance i also discussed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01522-00314359-00314454 our support with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01523-00314455-00314727 uh secretary uh locks and teddy locks +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01524-00314728-00314847 and the foreign secretary +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01525-00314848-00315087 of the philippines this week as well +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01526-00315088-00315247 this is a program which is meeting the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01527-00315248-00315319 pledges +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01528-00315320-00315543 that australia has made to support our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01529-00315544-00315719 shared regional recovery from the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01530-00315720-00315782 pandemic +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01531-00315783-00316110 senator i thank the minister for that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01532-00316111-00316319 very interesting answer and ask will the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01533-00316320-00316519 minister advise what the government is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01534-00316520-00316791 doing to coordinate with our partners +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01535-00316792-00317015 on this vaccination program senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01536-00317016-00317239 payne thank you mr president and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01537-00317240-00317430 cooperation with our partners is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01538-00317431-00317575 absolutely critical +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01539-00317576-00317758 by coordinating our efforts with new +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01540-00317759-00318006 zealand with the us and with france we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01541-00318007-00318239 will cover the vaccination needs of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01542-00318240-00318423 the pacific and this is a matter which +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01543-00318424-00318543 the minister for international +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01544-00318544-00318703 development and the pacific senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01545-00318704-00318895 selja and i have been engaging on with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01546-00318896-00319087 counterparts across the region +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01547-00319088-00319215 we're talking with other potential +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01548-00319216-00319471 suppliers including india and japan +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01549-00319472-00319606 we're working with the world health +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01550-00319607-00319782 organization with unicef with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01551-00319783-00319934 multilateral development banks the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01552-00319935-00320095 pacific island forum the pacific +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01553-00320096-00320279 community and with asean +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01554-00320280-00320463 to ensure support that meets +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01555-00320464-00320630 international standards +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01556-00320631-00320791 we'll purchase vaccines through +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01557-00320792-00320991 organizations such as unicef +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01558-00320992-00321191 and will share vaccines from our own +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01559-00321192-00321391 supply pipeline with both the pacific +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01560-00321392-00321519 and timor-leste +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01561-00321520-00321687 we're also vice chair of the garvey +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01562-00321688-00321839 board mr president and through that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01563-00321840-00322015 we've negotiated to ensure +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01564-00322016-00322239 all eligible pacific island countries +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01565-00322240-00322463 are covered by the kovacs facility +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01566-00322464-00322623 which will deliver over one million +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01567-00322624-00322839 doses to the pacific and timor-leste +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01568-00322840-00323071 by the middle of this year senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01569-00323072-00323271 rebecca final supplementary question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01570-00323272-00323463 will the minister explain how this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01571-00323464-00323599 important initiative +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01572-00323600-00323815 will deliver improved regional health +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01573-00323816-00323910 security +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01574-00323911-00324223 and economic recovery senator payne +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01575-00324224-00324391 uh thank you mr president is a very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01576-00324392-00324551 important question from senator abetz +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01577-00324552-00324775 because vaccination is a critical public +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01578-00324776-00324854 health measure +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01579-00324855-00325119 to take control of covert 19 to end the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01580-00325120-00325271 pandemic and to ensure +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01581-00325272-00325551 recovery so timely access to safe and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01582-00325552-00325743 effective vaccines will improve +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01583-00325744-00325982 our regional health security and also +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01584-00325983-00326175 reduce burdens on regional health +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01585-00326176-00326254 systems +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01586-00326255-00326479 it will pave the way importantly for the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01587-00326480-00326606 re-opening of borders +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01588-00326607-00326863 for re-establishing transport routes and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01589-00326864-00327023 restarting economies +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01590-00327024-00327239 it will boost critical sectors including +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01591-00327240-00327327 seasonal work +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01592-00327328-00327606 so important to our region international +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01593-00327607-00327678 tourism +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01594-00327679-00327910 vital to our region and a range of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01595-00327911-00328095 agricultural industries that depend on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01596-00328096-00328247 the availability of regular +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01597-00328248-00328454 international transport services +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01598-00328455-00328623 it's important that our region works +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01599-00328624-00328871 together to vaccinate populations to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01600-00328872-00329063 bring about that shared economic +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01601-00329064-00329158 recovery +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01602-00329159-00329358 we will ensure that we support our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01603-00329359-00329543 neighbours in this process and that we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01604-00329544-00329623 deliver +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01605-00329624-00329839 on our covert 19 development program +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01606-00329840-00330087 pivot on partnerships for recovery +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01607-00330088-00330358 senator what thank you mr president my +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01608-00330359-00330503 question is to the minister representing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01609-00330504-00330599 the minister for health +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01610-00330600-00330943 and aged care senator kolbeck yesterday +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01611-00330944-00331134 following covert vaccine overdose +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01612-00331135-00331375 overdoses by a doctor in queensland +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01613-00331376-00331534 the minister for health and aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01614-00331535-00331687 claimed and i quote +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01615-00331688-00331878 the specific training of this australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01616-00331879-00332006 trained doctor +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01617-00332007-00332191 were all carried out in accordance with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01618-00332192-00332310 procedures +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01619-00332311-00332519 and every one of those steps has been +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01620-00332520-00332654 checked and rechecked +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01621-00332655-00332799 and none of those steps had been +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01622-00332800-00333095 breached he and this minister were then +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01623-00333096-00333254 forced to correct the record +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01624-00333255-00333510 advising the doctor had not completed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01625-00333511-00333703 the required training +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01626-00333704-00333887 why has the minister let this rollout +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01627-00333888-00334103 commence in aged care homes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01628-00334104-00334295 without ensuring that everyone +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01629-00334296-00334487 administering the vaccinations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01630-00334488-00334758 had the required training the minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01631-00334759-00334910 representing the minister for health and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01632-00334911-00335199 aged care senator colback +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01633-00335200-00335399 thank you mr president uh and mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01634-00335400-00335551 president uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01635-00335552-00335687 both the minister for health and aged +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01636-00335688-00335903 care and myself believed that it was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01637-00335904-00336006 important that we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01638-00336007-00336239 put on the public record as quickly as +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01639-00336240-00336358 possible +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01640-00336359-00336558 the information that we had available to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01641-00336559-00336878 us with respect to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01642-00336879-00337087 the circumstances that occurred at the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01643-00337088-00337263 aged care facility in queensland mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01644-00337264-00337327 president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01645-00337328-00337678 we were assured we were assured by the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01646-00337679-00337782 deputy chief +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01647-00337783-00338103 health medical officer that by +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01648-00338104-00338527 healthcare australia that the that the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01649-00338528-00338910 doctor involved had in fact undertaken +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01650-00338911-00339215 the required training we were +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01651-00339216-00339406 subsequently advised on further +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01652-00339407-00339623 investigation and inquiry +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01653-00339624-00339919 that that had not been the case mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01654-00339920-00340023 president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01655-00340024-00340334 so what we have done is taken specific +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01656-00340335-00340454 action to ensure +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01657-00340455-00340799 via our own circumstances that every +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01658-00340800-00341175 worker working through and working on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01659-00341176-00341471 the vaccine roll out in aged care across +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01660-00341472-00341551 the country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01661-00341552-00341823 is independently ordered by us mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01662-00341824-00341951 president i think it's very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01663-00341952-00342263 very labor should be very cautious about +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01664-00342264-00342391 the language that they're using with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01665-00342392-00342495 respect to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01666-00342496-00342719 this matter mr president they should be +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01667-00342720-00342823 very very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01668-00342824-00343110 cautious they are contributing mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01669-00343111-00343158 president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01670-00343159-00343327 labor party are contributing with their +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01671-00343328-00343599 language to an undermining of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01672-00343600-00343830 confidence in the vaccination process +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01673-00343831-00343999 across the country mr president their +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01674-00344000-00344182 language is directly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01675-00344183-00344487 their languages contributing to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01676-00344488-00344575 undermining +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01677-00344576-00344734 of the confidence in the vaccination +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01678-00344735-00344927 process across this country mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01679-00344928-00345199 which we all agree is absolutely vital +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01680-00345200-00345295 mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01681-00345296-00345495 absolutely vital that we maintain +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01682-00345496-00345671 confidence vaccinations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01683-00345672-00345839 around the country mr president and i'm +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01684-00345840-00345999 very pleased to know senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01685-00346000-00346310 the acceptance rate the confirmation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01686-00346311-00346375 rate +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01687-00346376-00346678 of residents in aged care facilities +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01688-00346679-00346934 around the country remains high it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01689-00346935-00347143 remains high which is exactly what we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01690-00347144-00347199 want because +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01691-00347200-00347399 mr president we want senior assistant +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01692-00347400-00347671 president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01693-00347672-00347871 senator what a supplementary question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01694-00347872-00348047 thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01695-00348048-00348263 did the general practitioner who was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01696-00348264-00348430 responsible for the overdoses +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01697-00348431-00348751 have conditions on his registration if +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01698-00348752-00348839 so +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01699-00348840-00349039 why were these conditions permitted +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01700-00349040-00349206 under the contract entered into +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01701-00349207-00349510 by the morrison government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01702-00349511-00349847 senator kolbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01703-00349848-00350030 mr president i'll have to take the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01704-00350031-00350230 specifics of any +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01705-00350231-00350487 details in relation to the doctor +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01706-00350488-00350599 senator gallagher +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01707-00350600-00350934 concerned on notice mr president uh mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01708-00350935-00351167 president my advice is that it wasn't +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01709-00351168-00351367 he's not a general practitioner he's a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01710-00351368-00351478 doctor +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01711-00351479-00351647 my advice is that he's not a general +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01712-00351648-00351895 practitioner +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01713-00351896-00352191 order senator mr president and so i will +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01714-00352192-00352239 take +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01715-00352240-00352558 any any specifics in relation to this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01716-00352559-00352839 the doctor the doctor was an australian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01717-00352840-00352927 trained +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01718-00352928-00353263 doctor but i will take any specifics of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01719-00353264-00353478 any conditions that he may have had +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01720-00353479-00353703 there is currently an investigation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01721-00353704-00353854 being undertaken by the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01722-00353855-00354063 deputy chief medical officer michael +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01723-00354064-00354271 kidd into the circumstances of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01724-00354272-00354487 this case once that information is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01725-00354488-00354591 available to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01726-00354592-00354734 me mr president i'm very happy to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01727-00354735-00354967 provide it to the chamber senator what a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01728-00354968-00355158 final supplementary question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01729-00355159-00355439 order thank you mr president what +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01730-00355440-00355582 clinical governance +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01731-00355583-00355791 has the government put in place to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01732-00355792-00355927 ensure everyone +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01733-00355928-00356182 administering covert vaccines is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01734-00356183-00356463 properly and fully trained +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01735-00356464-00356782 senator kolbeck thank you mr president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01736-00356783-00356919 as i indicated in my +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01737-00356920-00357239 previous uh first answer uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01738-00357240-00357495 the australian government is taking an +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01739-00357496-00357591 independent +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01740-00357592-00357943 audit across all of those people who are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01741-00357944-00358215 working on the vaccine rollout +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01742-00358216-00358399 into aged care in the country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01743-00358400-00358615 independent of the processes that exist +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01744-00358616-00358934 within the organizations that are taking +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01745-00358935-00359103 that are taking out the rollout +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01746-00359104-00359399 uh we have also asked the former chief +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01747-00359400-00359527 nurse and midwifery +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01748-00359528-00359758 officer to be a part of the healthcare +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01749-00359759-00359847 australia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01750-00359848-00360110 uh be embedded into healthcare australia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01751-00360111-00360319 so we are undertaking our own +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01752-00360320-00360623 independent oversight to ensure +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01753-00360624-00360919 that all of those who have who are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01754-00360920-00361095 participating in the rollout +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01755-00361096-00361303 are prop appropriately qualified and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01756-00361304-00361399 trained +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01757-00361400-00361758 senator birmingham president i ask that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01758-00361759-00361975 further questions be placed on notice +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01759-00361976-00362143 i also just wish to add a little +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01760-00362144-00362278 information to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01761-00362279-00362463 the answer i gave in relation to the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01762-00362464-00362615 question from senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01763-00362616-00362927 thorpe i am advised that earlier this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01764-00362928-00362999 week +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01765-00363000-00363295 the minister for home affairs mr dutton +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01766-00363296-00363463 reposted a statement from +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01767-00363464-00363751 west australian police he did so adding +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01768-00363752-00363919 his own comments and the minister of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01769-00363920-00364015 home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01770-00364016-00364319 home affairs stating that i quote very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01771-00364320-00364575 disturbing reports out of wa +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01772-00364576-00364743 the actions of this individual as +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01773-00364744-00364927 reported are disgraceful +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01774-00364928-00365239 and have no place in our society anyone +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01775-00365240-00365399 with information should contact the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01776-00365400-00365487 police +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01777-00365488-00365791 thank you thank you are there any +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01778-00365792-00365982 motions to take note of answers senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01779-00365983-00366054 watts +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01780-00366055-00366327 thank you madam deputy president i rise +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01781-00366328-00366487 to take note of the answers given by +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01782-00366488-00366599 senator kolbeck +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01783-00366600-00366839 to the questions asked by senators still +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01784-00366840-00367110 and pratt +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01785-00367111-00367334 well this morning as i was leaving home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01786-00367335-00367527 and listening to the news +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01787-00367528-00367847 as many of us do i was shocked to yet +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01788-00367848-00367934 again +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01789-00367935-00368358 hear new allegations of extreme neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01790-00368359-00368727 in aged care facilities in our country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01791-00368728-00368934 new allegations have come to light +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01792-00368935-00369175 concerning severe neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01793-00369176-00369478 of elderly australians in the regis +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01794-00369479-00369575 nedlands +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01795-00369576-00369951 aged care facility in perth and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01796-00369952-00370175 the details of those allegations as they +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01797-00370176-00370319 have come to light +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01798-00370320-00370591 despite how many times we have heard +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01799-00370592-00370782 these sorts of things occurring on this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01800-00370783-00370934 government's watch +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01801-00370935-00371334 still were appalling and shocking +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01802-00371335-00371575 two days before christmas last year on a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01803-00371576-00371663 40 degree +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01804-00371664-00372023 day lee received a call from her 86 year +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01805-00372024-00372199 old father's aged care home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01806-00372200-00372510 regis nedlands in perth telling her +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01807-00372511-00372758 he was in an ambulance to the hospital +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01808-00372759-00373015 her father brian was and i quote +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01809-00373016-00373247 slumped over in the bed and his back was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01810-00373248-00373367 exposed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01811-00373368-00373599 i could see his back was really terribly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01812-00373600-00373702 burnt his +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01813-00373703-00373919 whole back was burned and he was not +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01814-00373920-00374047 speaking to us +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01815-00374048-00374375 he was semi in and out of consciousness +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01816-00374376-00374678 brian a double amputee had been left out +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01817-00374679-00374854 on the rooftop terrace for two +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01818-00374855-00375199 hours nobody knew where he was for two +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01819-00375200-00375558 hours and tragically brian died on the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01820-00375559-00375695 20th of january +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01821-00375696-00376006 this year there were further allegations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01822-00376007-00376199 concerning the regis netherlands +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01823-00376200-00376367 facility as well +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01824-00376368-00376687 in the days before brian hunter's death +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01825-00376688-00376967 six nursing home nursing students were +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01826-00376968-00377102 sent to regis netherlands for their +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01827-00377103-00377263 first clinical placement +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01828-00377264-00377478 where they witnessed abuse widespread +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01829-00377479-00377687 neglect rough handling and sexually +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01830-00377688-00377887 inappropriate behaviour +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01831-00377888-00378127 one of the abused residents was 94 year +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01832-00378128-00378302 old mr lee +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01833-00378303-00378478 the report details that one of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01834-00378479-00378702 students found and i quote mr lee +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01835-00378703-00378927 who is always in a wheelchair on the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01836-00378928-00379151 floor near the entrance to his room +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01837-00379152-00379382 completely unclothed and sitting in his +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01838-00379383-00379647 feces with a carer standing over him +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01839-00379648-00379863 the nurse nursing student said that she +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01840-00379864-00380030 asked the carer did he fall +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01841-00380031-00380263 and the carer replied with no the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01842-00380264-00380430 student later witnessed the carer +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01843-00380431-00380767 dragging mr lee to the bathroom +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01844-00380768-00381078 it is terribly sad and shocking +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01845-00381079-00381382 that we continue to hear stories like +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01846-00381383-00381439 that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01847-00381440-00381663 emanating from aged care facilities +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01848-00381664-00381791 around the country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01849-00381792-00381967 and they are only two of the stories +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01850-00381968-00382110 that have emerged this week +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01851-00382111-00382510 alone for years now +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01852-00382511-00382671 we have been bringing to the attention +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01853-00382672-00382887 of the senate the exactly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01854-00382888-00383119 these sorts of stories and we have been +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01855-00383120-00383351 getting exactly the same kind of answers +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01856-00383352-00383471 to our questions +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01857-00383472-00383791 that we saw from senator kolbeck today +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01858-00383792-00384006 we get the fake concern +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01859-00384007-00384199 we get the this shouldn't be happening +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01860-00384200-00384319 to anyone +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01861-00384320-00384623 we get the i'm as appalled as anyone +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01862-00384624-00384799 and there's just one fact that senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01863-00384800-00385006 kolbeck and his predecessors +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01864-00385007-00385327 continue to emit from their explanations +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01865-00385328-00385591 and that is that they have every power +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01866-00385592-00385687 required +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01867-00385688-00385895 to actually do something about this and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01868-00385896-00386023 fix this system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01869-00386024-00386271 so that we don't keep seeing and hearing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01870-00386272-00386463 these types of stories +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01871-00386464-00386623 you would think listening to senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01872-00386624-00386887 kolbeck whether it be today +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01873-00386888-00387143 or last time we asked him questions or +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01874-00387144-00387351 last year when we repeatedly brought +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01875-00387352-00387439 these kinds +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01876-00387440-00387710 of stories to the uh chambers attention +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01877-00387711-00387806 you would think +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01878-00387807-00388015 that senator kolbeck is just some +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01879-00388016-00388191 innocent bystander +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01880-00388192-00388423 as appalled as the rest of us by what is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01881-00388424-00388575 going on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01882-00388576-00388775 he is probably you're right senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01883-00388776-00389030 polly he is probably the one person +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01884-00389031-00389310 in this chamber and in this government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01885-00389311-00389399 who can actually do +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01886-00389400-00389702 something about it the clue is in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01887-00389703-00389991 senator kolbeck's title minister for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01888-00389992-00390223 aged care services +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01889-00390224-00390471 senator kolbeck has every opportunity to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01890-00390472-00390615 do something about this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01891-00390616-00390878 and he has repeatedly been warned about +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01892-00390879-00390934 the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01893-00390935-00391254 huge systemic problems in our aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01894-00391255-00391591 services due partly to this government's +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01895-00391592-00391719 lack of funding +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01896-00391720-00392015 and due even more so to the funding cuts +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01897-00392016-00392206 that this government has imposed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01898-00392207-00392382 particularly while the now prime +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01899-00392383-00392575 minister was the treasurer +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01900-00392576-00392839 of this country i'm getting pretty sick +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01901-00392840-00392910 and tired +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01902-00392911-00393078 of hearing senator kolbeck and other +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01903-00393079-00393215 members of this government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01904-00393216-00393406 continue to stand there and and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01905-00393407-00393623 empathize and express concern +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01906-00393624-00393775 and say that we none of us want to see +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01907-00393776-00393951 this when they actually could be doing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01908-00393952-00394110 something to fix this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01909-00394111-00394263 now we do have a royal commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01910-00394264-00394495 underway and tomorrow i understand the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01911-00394496-00394639 government will be receiving the final +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01912-00394640-00394782 report of that royal committee +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01913-00394783-00395015 royal commission but several months ago +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01914-00395016-00395143 the government received +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01915-00395144-00395302 an interim report from this royal +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01916-00395303-00395454 commission titled +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01917-00395455-00395687 neglect if there was any doubt about +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01918-00395688-00395919 what is going on in our aged care system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01919-00395920-00396167 and still despite a royal commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01920-00396168-00396287 report we still +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01921-00396288-00396663 continue to see and hear these stories +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01922-00396664-00396863 the fact is that this government just +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01923-00396864-00397071 doesn't care about what's going on in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01924-00397072-00397230 our aged care facilities +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01925-00397231-00397439 they just don't care that elderly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01926-00397440-00397654 australians are being neglected +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01927-00397655-00397854 are being treated like this when they +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01928-00397855-00398078 deserve all of our support +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01929-00398079-00398302 in their in their twilight years this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01930-00398303-00398478 government has had every chance to fix +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01931-00398479-00398502 it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01932-00398503-00398687 and they just keep ignoring it your time +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01933-00398688-00398910 has expired senator davey +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01934-00398911-00399199 uh thank you and look i i think senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01935-00399200-00399278 watt for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01936-00399279-00399615 um bringing our notice to this issue +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01937-00399616-00399951 um the allegations are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01938-00399952-00400254 absolutely abhorrent and senator what is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01939-00400255-00400447 quite correct that we shouldn't hear +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01940-00400448-00400575 about +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01941-00400576-00400934 allegations of neglect in our aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01942-00400935-00400999 system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01943-00401000-00401310 and indeed our government is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01944-00401311-00401647 working to improve the system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01945-00401648-00401902 it is difficult we have a large and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01946-00401903-00402015 extensive +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01947-00402016-00402247 you know aged care industry in australia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01948-00402248-00402439 we do have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01949-00402440-00402839 systems in place to ensure that we do +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01950-00402840-00403206 review and monitor the quality +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01951-00403207-00403582 and care in our residential care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01952-00403583-00403895 facilities across australia indeed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01953-00403896-00404167 this specific issue that senator what is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01954-00404168-00404239 talking about +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01955-00404240-00404487 is still under investigation that is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01956-00404488-00404582 ongoing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01957-00404583-00404951 so i will let that investigation proceed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01958-00404952-00405134 without further comment on those +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01959-00405135-00405302 specifics +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01960-00405303-00405671 but i do want to remind the chamber that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01961-00405672-00405895 our government is committed to looking +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01962-00405896-00406110 after our age citizens +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01963-00406111-00406375 that every year under our government our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01964-00406376-00406415 home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01965-00406416-00406687 care packages have been increased our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01966-00406688-00406910 residential care places are up +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01967-00406911-00407206 and every year we are providing more +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01968-00407207-00407302 funding +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01969-00407303-00407606 for our aged care system we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01970-00407607-00407854 are delivering record investment across +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01971-00407855-00408023 the aged care system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01972-00408024-00408319 and over the forward estimates whereas +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01973-00408320-00408519 under labour +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01974-00408520-00408782 and we've increased it since when it was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01975-00408783-00408830 under +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01976-00408831-00409023 what it was when it was under labor it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01977-00409024-00409254 is estimated that funding for aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01978-00409255-00409558 will grow to more than 27 billion +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01979-00409559-00409943 by 2023 to 24. that is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01980-00409943-00410270 on average 1.5 billion +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01981-00410271-00410534 of extra support for older australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01982-00410535-00410630 each year +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01983-00410631-00410943 over the forward estimates we are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01984-00410943-00411087 committed as a government to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01985-00411088-00411374 making improvements to the aged care for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01986-00411375-00411566 all senior australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01987-00411567-00411799 and it continues to be one of our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01988-00411800-00411974 priority areas +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01989-00411975-00412239 that is why the prime minister called +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01990-00412239-00412366 for the royal commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01991-00412367-00412599 into the aged care quality and safety +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01992-00412600-00412734 and it is why we are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01993-00412735-00412999 acting on that as commissioner briggs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01994-00413000-00413126 has stated +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01995-00413127-00413303 as part of the final hearings of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01996-00413304-00413430 commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01997-00413431-00413759 and i quote i have however detected over +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01998-00413760-00413895 the last year +Ay7rHHy7MjY-01999-00413896-00414174 council a growing determination among +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02000-00414175-00414247 officials +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02001-00414247-00414510 and in the government to fix the problem +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02002-00414512-00414607 of the aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02003-00414608-00414910 system and to pursue a genuine +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02004-00414912-00415247 reform agenda and we are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02005-00415247-00415463 committed to pursuing that genuine +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02006-00415464-00415599 reform agenda +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02007-00415600-00415903 we will continue to focus +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02008-00415904-00416255 on the gaps in aged care and we will +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02009-00416256-00416382 continue +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02010-00416383-00416695 to have our aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02011-00416696-00417063 quality commissioner undertake spot +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02012-00417064-00417255 audits +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02013-00417256-00417614 we will continue to have the commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02014-00417615-00417926 review the performance of our aged +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02015-00417927-00418214 care residential facilities and where +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02016-00418215-00418351 appropriate +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02017-00418352-00418663 to issue notices to impose sanctions +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02018-00418664-00418991 and where appropriate if found to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02019-00418992-00419334 actually revoke +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02020-00419335-00419775 licenses or the services accreditation +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02021-00419776-00420055 those however those processes we have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02022-00420056-00420327 them in place and they must be allowed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02023-00420328-00420695 to be undertaken without +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02024-00420696-00421070 interference to ensure integrity in the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02025-00421071-00421151 system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02026-00421152-00421483 to ensure that we don't have our system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02027-00421484-00421870 compromised by perception +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02028-00421871-00422183 and our government will continue +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02029-00422184-00422431 to provide senior australians with the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02030-00422432-00422566 support they need +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02031-00422567-00422870 but the best support of all is support +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02032-00422871-00423095 that they can get in their own homes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02033-00423096-00423375 and that is why we we are committed to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02034-00423376-00423463 funding +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02035-00423464-00423727 more home care packages our home care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02036-00423728-00423951 packages have increased from just over +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02037-00423952-00424007 60 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02038-00424008-00424566 000 under labor it's increased by 224 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02039-00424567-00424679 percent +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02040-00424680-00424983 more australians are getting care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02041-00424984-00425239 in their homes now than they did under +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02042-00425239-00425343 labour +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02043-00425343-00425663 and we continue to be committed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02044-00425664-00426087 to home care packages so that people can +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02045-00426088-00426399 grow old with dignity surrounded by +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02046-00426400-00426766 their own family in their own home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02047-00426767-00426983 in a comfortable manner with the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02048-00426984-00427263 necessary care and support they need +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02049-00427264-00427495 to make their final years as comfortable +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02050-00427496-00427703 as pro as possible +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02051-00427704-00428007 but we will not turn our back on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02052-00428008-00428399 the challenges of the future and we will +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02053-00428400-00428614 continue to review and go through the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02054-00428615-00428814 royal commission's findings +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02055-00428815-00429103 and implement reform where needed and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02056-00429104-00429207 where appropriate +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02057-00429208-00429559 thank you senator davey senator polly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02058-00429560-00429791 tomorrow the federal government will be +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02059-00429792-00430095 handed the final report +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02060-00430096-00430431 by the royal commission into aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02061-00430432-00430551 in this country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02062-00430552-00430870 it will be the 22nd report +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02063-00430871-00431095 in the last eight years that's been +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02064-00431096-00431303 presented to this government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02065-00431304-00431631 who will accept quite frankly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02066-00431632-00431947 no responsibility for the inept +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02067-00431947-00432175 administration of the aged care sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02068-00432176-00432327 in this country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02069-00432328-00432647 over the last eight years yes there has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02070-00432647-00432703 been +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02071-00432704-00432966 additional funding put in but when mr +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02072-00432967-00433143 morrison was treasurer +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02073-00433143-00433487 he used this sector as an atm +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02074-00433488-00433718 and gutted it by almost two billion +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02075-00433719-00433822 dollars +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02076-00433823-00434222 now we know that the interim report into +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02077-00434223-00434631 aged care was handed to this government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02078-00434632-00434975 over 12 months ago and what have we seen +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02079-00434976-00435310 since then further neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02080-00435312-00435495 now you would have thought that perhaps +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02081-00435496-00435743 the title of their interim report +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02082-00435743-00435951 neglect might have given them a hint +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02083-00435952-00436118 that they might have to do something +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02084-00436119-00436295 sooner rather than later but what +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02085-00436296-00436431 they've done is they've just +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02086-00436432-00436751 used the royal commission as an excuse +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02087-00436752-00437047 not to take the courses of action that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02088-00437047-00437127 have been well +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02089-00437128-00437575 documented and raised by as i said 21 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02090-00437576-00437903 inquiries and reports into the aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02091-00437904-00437983 sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02092-00437984-00438175 now they have known that the act free +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02093-00438176-00438407 funding instrument has been broken for a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02094-00438408-00438583 considerable period of time +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02095-00438584-00438887 and it needed to be fixed they also +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02096-00438888-00439175 know that there has been in excess of a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02097-00439176-00439279 hundred thousand +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02098-00439280-00439463 older australians who are still waiting +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02099-00439464-00439607 on the aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02100-00439608-00439959 uh the home care waiting list for +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02101-00439960-00440270 the level of care that they have been +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02102-00440271-00440566 assessed as needing we know that almost +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02103-00440567-00440622 30 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02104-00440623-00441022 000 30 000 older australians have died +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02105-00441023-00441222 waiting for that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02106-00441223-00441535 assessment level of care that they +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02107-00441535-00441710 should have been receiving in their own +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02108-00441712-00441935 home we know +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02109-00441935-00442303 that almost half of residential aged +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02110-00442304-00442566 care older australians in this country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02111-00442567-00442759 are malnourished +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02112-00442760-00443191 only today we had aged care workers +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02113-00443192-00443495 visiting parliament house talking to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02114-00443496-00443718 parliamentarians including myself +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02115-00443719-00443887 hearing again +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02116-00443888-00444118 not that i hadn't heard this time and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02117-00444119-00444303 time and time again +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02118-00444304-00444655 of the difficulties that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02119-00444656-00444975 these workers are faced with every day +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02120-00444976-00445295 not having enough time to provide the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02121-00445296-00445359 care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02122-00445360-00445695 that older australians deserve hearing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02123-00445696-00445783 about +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02124-00445784-00446159 an old older gentleman who fell +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02125-00446160-00446431 and was left without adequate medical +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02126-00446432-00446495 care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02127-00446496-00446807 for days with broken ribs +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02128-00446808-00447159 broken ribs can i say having difficulty +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02129-00447160-00447343 breathing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02130-00447343-00447775 now this was happening because +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02131-00447776-00448103 there wasn't enough time +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02132-00448104-00448318 and enough workers to give this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02133-00448319-00448663 gentleman the care that he needed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02134-00448664-00449022 he died he died +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02135-00449023-00449270 that could have been prevented now this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02136-00449271-00449495 government and this minister comes into +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02137-00449496-00449535 this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02138-00449535-00449766 chamber day after day when we're asking +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02139-00449767-00449855 questions +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02140-00449856-00450095 and he accepts no responsibility for the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02141-00450096-00450199 failings +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02142-00450200-00450383 the reason we had a royal commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02143-00450384-00450566 called in the first place +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02144-00450567-00450743 was because of this government and the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02145-00450743-00450895 previous liberal governments over the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02146-00450896-00451007 last eight years have +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02147-00451008-00451279 failed older australians they've failed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02148-00451280-00451463 older australians and their families and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02149-00451464-00451599 they've failed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02150-00451600-00451966 those workers in the aged care sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02151-00451967-00452287 day in day out now we know +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02152-00452288-00452551 that there needs to be more money put +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02153-00452552-00452775 into aged care but it's got to be done +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02154-00452776-00452975 properly there has to be transparency +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02155-00452976-00453151 you can't be spending +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02156-00453152-00453391 these billions and billions of dollars +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02157-00453392-00453535 year in year out +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02158-00453535-00453743 without knowing that the older +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02159-00453743-00453999 australians are getting the care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02160-00454000-00454263 the dignity and the respect that they +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02161-00454264-00454431 deserve in this country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02162-00454432-00454735 we hear time and time again what a rich +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02163-00454735-00455047 nation that we have and we we respect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02164-00455047-00455231 our senior australians that's what the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02165-00455232-00455455 minister says and yet we're hearing case +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02166-00455456-00455703 after case of neglect in this country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02167-00455704-00455935 another story shared with me this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02168-00455935-00456014 morning +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02169-00456015-00456327 as a woman who was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02170-00456328-00456647 200 kilos in her residential home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02171-00456647-00456879 they didn't have a lift that was able to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02172-00456880-00457095 help the staff so when she collapsed and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02173-00457096-00457255 in fact when she died +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02174-00457256-00457559 in the hallway in that home where +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02175-00457560-00457775 all the other residents could see her +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02176-00457776-00457966 they had no equipment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02177-00457967-00458287 to ensure that dignity and respect was +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02178-00458288-00458487 shown to this woman so that they could +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02179-00458488-00458622 return her +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02180-00458623-00458863 20 meters to her own bed so they could +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02181-00458864-00458991 prepare her +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02182-00458992-00459214 that is a disgrace it's a natural +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02183-00459215-00459303 disgrace +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02184-00459304-00459518 and it's unfair that australian workers +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02185-00459519-00459647 in the aged care sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02186-00459647-00459887 are put in this situation day after day +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02187-00459888-00460031 after day +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02188-00460032-00460318 senator thank you acting madam deputy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02189-00460319-00460495 president and let me just say from the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02190-00460496-00460687 outset that the morrison government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02191-00460688-00460879 is committed to ensuring a high quality +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02192-00460880-00460991 of aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02193-00460992-00461327 for all senior australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02194-00461328-00461655 however i refute the argument +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02195-00461656-00461918 particularly from senator watt that the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02196-00461919-00462166 minister colbeck is the only person +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02197-00462167-00462455 who can fix the problems uh with a with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02198-00462456-00462639 the aged care sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02199-00462639-00462927 there are a the aged care sector has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02200-00462928-00463127 thousands of employees +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02201-00463128-00463431 and it is up to all of us +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02202-00463432-00463695 to make sure that we carry out our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02203-00463696-00463855 fiduciary duties +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02204-00463856-00464087 and to actually lay the blame solely at +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02205-00464088-00464222 minister kolbeck's feet +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02206-00464223-00464535 is just typical labour smearing uh they +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02207-00464535-00464718 themselves haven't got a policy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02208-00464719-00464927 or released a policy on what their +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02209-00464928-00465110 so-called solutions are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02210-00465112-00465343 they'd rather sit there and throw dirt +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02211-00465343-00465487 day in day out +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02212-00465488-00465766 attack the individual rather than +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02213-00465767-00466022 address the crux of the matter +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02214-00466023-00466214 and it should be noted that the morrison +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02215-00466215-00466359 commonwealth government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02216-00466360-00466575 has made improvements uh to aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02217-00466576-00466791 for all senior australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02218-00466792-00467014 and it's why the act and the pro and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02219-00467015-00467151 it's you know +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02220-00467152-00467303 it's the rate you know the reason why +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02221-00467304-00467463 the prime minister actually called the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02222-00467464-00467575 royal commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02223-00467576-00467822 into the aged care was so that we could +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02224-00467823-00467895 actually +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02225-00467896-00468118 find the right solutions and we were +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02226-00468119-00468207 totally open +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02227-00468208-00468495 and transparent about it now labor party +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02228-00468496-00468639 didn't call a royal commission in the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02229-00468639-00468759 aged care sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02230-00468760-00468910 they're not interested in actually +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02231-00468912-00469103 finding solutions they're only +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02232-00469104-00469295 interested in looking at the problems +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02233-00469296-00469463 and then laying blame +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02234-00469464-00469775 at at the minister kobeck's feet +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02235-00469776-00470055 rather than actually delivering real +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02236-00470056-00470159 substantial +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02237-00470160-00470470 outcomes real substantial outcomes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02238-00470471-00470670 and it's worth noting that the coalition +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02239-00470671-00470870 government is actually delivering +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02240-00470871-00471103 record investment across the aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02241-00471104-00471191 system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02242-00471192-00471610 and since 2012-13 we've invested over +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02243-00471612-00471727 13.3 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02244-00471728-00472055 billion dollars uh sorry 21.3 billion +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02245-00472056-00472110 dollars +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02246-00472112-00472527 in 2020 year ending 20 up from 13.33 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02247-00472528-00472655 billion dollars +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02248-00472656-00472847 since the last labor government so +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02249-00472847-00473118 that's an increase of about 50 percent +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02250-00473119-00473318 in the seven years of the coalition +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02251-00473319-00473455 government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02252-00473456-00473727 or works out an extra about 1.5 billion +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02253-00473728-00473863 every year +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02254-00473864-00474343 in extra support for senior australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02255-00474343-00474575 we've also invested in additional home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02256-00474576-00474751 care packages +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02257-00474752-00475070 we've announced a record 5.5 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02258-00475071-00475383 billion dollars for an additional 83 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02259-00475384-00475783 000 home care packages since the 2018-19 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02260-00475784-00475847 budget +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02261-00475847-00476159 so in the last two years we've +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02262-00476160-00476455 added another 83 000 additional home +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02263-00476456-00476614 care packages +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02264-00476615-00476918 uh and overall there is now almost 200 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02265-00476919-00477079 000 packages +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02266-00477080-00477287 that have been fully funded and that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02267-00477288-00477543 compares to just sixty thousand +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02268-00477543-00477766 when labor will last in government so i +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02269-00477767-00477935 just you know it's worth thinking about +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02270-00477935-00478214 that we have increased by 300 percent +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02271-00478215-00478439 the number of home care packages +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02272-00478439-00478518 available +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02273-00478519-00478775 to senior australians on top of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02274-00478776-00478903 extra 50 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02275-00478904-00479231 or seven billion dollars invested into +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02276-00479232-00479391 aged care homes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02277-00479392-00479766 uh importantly around 99 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02278-00479767-00479991 of senior australians waiting for a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02279-00479992-00480222 package at their assessed level +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02280-00480223-00480510 have also been offered support from the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02281-00480512-00480599 government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02282-00480600-00480927 including an interim package +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02283-00480928-00481239 of a commonwealth home support program +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02284-00481239-00481407 and of course it should also be noted +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02285-00481408-00481614 that they continue to have access to our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02286-00481615-00481710 world-class +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02287-00481712-00481959 health care system which has done a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02288-00481960-00482262 fantastic job in the last 12 months +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02289-00482263-00482599 at supporting our seniors throughout the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02290-00482600-00482927 covert crisis +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02291-00482928-00483143 we believe the coalition the morrison +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02292-00483143-00483270 coalition government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02293-00483271-00483510 believes in a strong aged care sector +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02294-00483512-00483647 with a high quality +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02295-00483647-00483870 and skilled workforce that will provide +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02296-00483871-00484022 senior australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02297-00484023-00484279 with the care they rightly deserve and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02298-00484280-00484510 give all australians confidence +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02299-00484512-00484751 that our elderly are cared for with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02300-00484752-00484847 kindness +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02301-00484847-00485191 respect and dignity the government so +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02302-00485192-00485327 far has acted on +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02303-00485328-00485614 the its interim and covert 19 reports +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02304-00485615-00485670 and will +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02305-00485671-00485839 carefully uh consider final +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02306-00485839-00485999 recommendations when they are handed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02307-00486000-00486231 down later this month and obviously we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02308-00486232-00486303 will also +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02309-00486304-00486591 take very seriously and seek to act upon +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02310-00486592-00486670 the advice +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02311-00486671-00486959 from the royal commission making +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02312-00486960-00487159 improvements to aged care is actually +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02313-00487160-00487343 one of the morrison government's key +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02314-00487343-00487583 priorities +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02315-00487584-00487831 as as commissioner briggs of the royal +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02316-00487832-00488014 commission stated as a final +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02317-00488015-00488191 as a final part of the hearings in the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02318-00488192-00488431 commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02319-00488432-00488639 he has detected a number of problems in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02320-00488639-00488759 the aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02321-00488760-00489055 system is is determined to pursue a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02322-00489056-00489287 genuine reform agenda +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02323-00489288-00489622 and so just i'll complete i'll finalize +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02324-00489623-00489670 this again +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02325-00489671-00489887 we the morrison government are committed +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02326-00489888-00490103 to providing senior australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02327-00490104-00490335 with the utmost high quality aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02328-00490335-00490414 good times +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02329-00490415-00490735 expired senator thank you madam deputy +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02330-00490735-00490831 president +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02331-00490832-00491055 my mum spent the last five months of her +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02332-00491056-00491318 life in aged care in northwest tasmania +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02333-00491319-00491566 she loved it once she moved in she +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02334-00491567-00491695 repeatedly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02335-00491696-00491855 said that she wished she had made the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02336-00491856-00492062 decision to move into care earlier +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02337-00492063-00492310 she loved the company the activities the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02338-00492312-00492447 clean modern room +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02339-00492447-00492791 and the staff as the age raw aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02340-00492792-00492966 royal commission looks deeply at issues +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02341-00492967-00493231 in aged care and more and more families +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02342-00493232-00493479 and aged care staff find their voices +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02343-00493480-00493670 describing the horror of witnessing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02344-00493671-00493831 their most vulnerable loved ones +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02345-00493832-00493943 mistreated +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02346-00493943-00494183 neglected and abused i've realised that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02347-00494184-00494262 my mum +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02348-00494263-00494470 won the lottery a lottery with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02349-00494471-00494639 increasingly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02350-00494639-00494943 lengthening odds during this pandemic we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02351-00494943-00495079 have witnessed a system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02352-00495080-00495422 unable to respond terrified residents +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02353-00495423-00495743 traumatized families overburdened staff +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02354-00495743-00496014 an appalling lack of resources that they +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02355-00496015-00496239 need to take care of our vulnerable +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02356-00496239-00496407 older australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02357-00496408-00496727 an aged care so riddled with flaws and a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02358-00496728-00496895 lack of appropriate support +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02359-00496896-00497070 that it simply could not move fast +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02360-00497071-00497318 enough to protect life +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02361-00497319-00497479 an aged care system that is the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02362-00497480-00497679 responsibility of this federal +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02363-00497680-00497791 government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02364-00497792-00498070 a responsibility the morrison government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02365-00498071-00498327 and a minister who sits in this chamber +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02366-00498328-00498631 has run from hiding from ducking and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02367-00498632-00498710 weaving +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02368-00498712-00498983 causing trauma and costing lives we've +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02369-00498984-00499239 heard so many voices and so many +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02370-00499239-00499366 horrific stories +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02371-00499367-00499679 of neglect in the news today a woman +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02372-00499680-00499927 described the appalling neglect of her +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02373-00499928-00500047 father saying +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02374-00500047-00500262 they were treating my dad like an animal +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02375-00500263-00500414 to be slaughtered +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02376-00500415-00500670 burnt stepped up stepped on and left in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02377-00500671-00500807 bed to rot +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02378-00500808-00500991 the degrading treatment the lack of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02379-00500992-00501303 respect the disregard for the most basic +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02380-00501304-00501607 of human rights needs and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02381-00501608-00501943 horrifies us all it's a disgrace +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02382-00501943-00502095 and yet we've got a government and a +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02383-00502096-00502318 minister for senior australians and aged +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02384-00502319-00502439 care services +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02385-00502439-00502751 that shows no shame and no humility this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02386-00502752-00502799 government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02387-00502800-00503103 has has abrogated its responsibility to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02388-00503104-00503310 older australians and their families +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02389-00503312-00503631 time and time again today the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02390-00503632-00503839 the country is bracing itself for the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02391-00503839-00504039 final report of the aged care royal +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02392-00504039-00504135 commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02393-00504135-00504375 due tomorrow we've already seen its +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02394-00504376-00504631 interim report titled neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02395-00504632-00504951 that says it all a report that found +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02396-00504952-00505207 aged care residents literally starving +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02397-00505208-00505455 with maggots in their wounds and workers +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02398-00505456-00505566 in aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02399-00505567-00505807 and good providers and i quote +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02400-00505808-00505975 succeeding despite +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02401-00505976-00506295 the aged care system aged care should +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02402-00506296-00506495 not be some kind of lottery +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02403-00506496-00506799 it is outrageous that it's become so and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02404-00506800-00507007 yet that is exactly what this government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02405-00507008-00507183 has turned it into +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02406-00507184-00507470 makes making such a fundamental decision +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02407-00507471-00507551 as moving +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02408-00507552-00507766 into aged care should not be wrapped in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02409-00507767-00507862 terror +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02410-00507863-00508103 and you will be subject to neglect and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02411-00508104-00508239 abuse +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02412-00508239-00508462 many older australians are generally +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02413-00508463-00508703 genuinely afraid and so are those who +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02414-00508704-00508822 love them +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02415-00508823-00509103 aged care workers are exhausted and +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02416-00509104-00509391 stretched to their absolute limit +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02417-00509392-00509647 older australians built this country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02418-00509647-00509814 they and the families who love them +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02419-00509815-00509870 deserve +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02420-00509871-00510199 so much better than the chaotic unsafe +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02421-00510200-00510279 system +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02422-00510280-00510462 that has evolved under the morrison +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02423-00510463-00510622 government and this minister in this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02424-00510623-00510710 chamber +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02425-00510712-00510870 and here we have this minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02426-00510871-00511039 constantly expressing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02427-00511039-00511318 concern with a furrowed brow and taking +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02428-00511319-00511543 no responsibility for the wreckage +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02429-00511543-00511870 that his government has brought let us +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02430-00511871-00511927 never +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02431-00511928-00512262 ever forget that this crisis is this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02432-00512263-00512359 government's doing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02433-00512360-00512662 a direct result of seven years of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02434-00512663-00512783 neglect +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02435-00512784-00513166 seven years of neglect a government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02436-00513167-00513462 that has made savage cuts in aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02437-00513463-00513631 and i heard senator polly earlier +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02438-00513632-00513783 talking about this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02439-00513784-00514062 like the 1.7 billion dollars in funding +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02440-00514063-00514343 that was cut in 2016-17 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02441-00514343-00514647 and 2017-18 on top +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02442-00514647-00514943 of scrapping the pay rise that staff had +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02443-00514943-00515199 secured back in 2014. +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02444-00515200-00515439 the truth is this government only called +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02445-00515439-00515575 the royal commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02446-00515576-00515839 because it was shamed into it by the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02447-00515839-00516031 four corners media scandal that's the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02448-00516032-00516231 only reason we've got a royal commission +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02449-00516232-00516455 if that four corner story had not of run +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02450-00516456-00516591 we would not have had +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02451-00516592-00516839 the royal commission that would have uh +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02452-00516839-00517047 shine a light on all this neglect that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02453-00517047-00517199 we are seeing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02454-00517200-00517383 and they've had seven years the morrison +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02455-00517384-00517535 government have had seven +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02456-00517535-00517783 years to address this properly and to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02457-00517784-00518047 look after our older australians +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02458-00518047-00518351 they've failed 21 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02459-00518352-00518655 21 major reports into aged care +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02460-00518656-00518991 during that seven years they've received +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02461-00518992-00519303 those reports during their seven years +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02462-00519304-00519583 and they've failed to act on them and we +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02463-00519584-00519839 completely continue to see the sheer +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02464-00519839-00519983 goal of this government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02465-00519984-00520287 that won't face up to its responsibility +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02466-00520288-00520591 and they show no respect for our elderly +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02467-00520592-00520855 australians so the question is that the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02468-00520856-00521039 motion is moved by senator watt +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02469-00521039-00521222 to take note of answers be agreed to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02470-00521223-00521343 those of that opinion say +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02471-00521343-00521647 aye against i believe the eyes have it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02472-00521647-00521975 senator thorpe thank you chair i move +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02473-00521976-00522079 that the senate take +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02474-00522080-00522343 note of senator birmingham's response to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02475-00522343-00522462 my question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02476-00522463-00522735 and senator payne's response to senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02477-00522735-00523159 rice's question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02478-00523160-00523439 the minister's answer to my very very +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02479-00523439-00523487 clear +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02480-00523488-00523807 question why hasn't the pm had anything +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02481-00523808-00523870 to say +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02482-00523871-00524062 on an aboriginal woman and her baby +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02483-00524063-00524175 being attacked +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02484-00524176-00524495 by a nazi with a flame thrower this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02485-00524496-00524791 week the silence from the so-called +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02486-00524792-00524975 leader of this country +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02487-00524976-00525303 is violence by saying nothing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02488-00525304-00525727 at all he's saying it's okay +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02489-00525728-00526135 that these racially motivated terrorist +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02490-00526136-00526503 attacks are okay asia +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02491-00526504-00526814 this country's very own spy agency has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02492-00526815-00527087 said that the far-right extremism +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02493-00527088-00527359 is growing in this country and that it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02494-00527360-00527566 is a threat +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02495-00527567-00527951 and what does the pm do nothing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02496-00527952-00528159 when labor senators in this place tried +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02497-00528160-00528375 to get emotion through this chamber +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02498-00528376-00528662 about a significant rise in far-right +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02499-00528663-00528783 extremism +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02500-00528784-00529159 those opposite deleted all references to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02501-00529160-00529247 it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02502-00529248-00529470 why because those opposite are +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02503-00529471-00529614 responsible for this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02504-00529615-00529807 either because of what they say or +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02505-00529808-00530062 because of what they don't say +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02506-00530063-00530247 the prime minister was today the guest +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02507-00530248-00530422 of honor celebrating international +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02508-00530423-00530503 women's day +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02509-00530504-00530959 in this place that in itself is a joke +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02510-00530960-00531159 but he was standing in the great hall +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02511-00531160-00531303 saying that women should be +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02512-00531304-00531631 protected and he's right we do +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02513-00531632-00531895 need to be protected protected from the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02514-00531896-00532095 liberal party +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02515-00532096-00532351 the leader of this government government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02516-00532352-00532399 must +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02517-00532400-00532711 be some kind of magical being he has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02518-00532712-00532831 this ability to just +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02519-00532832-00533166 vanish or just simply knows nothing or +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02520-00533167-00533391 he has something nothing to say when the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02521-00533392-00533543 country needs him +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02522-00533544-00533831 most maybe someone should tell him the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02523-00533832-00534031 reason why the limousine picks him up +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02524-00534032-00534143 every day +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02525-00534144-00534391 is because he's meant to be the prime +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02526-00534392-00534551 minister +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02527-00534552-00534927 do your job grow +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02528-00534928-00535311 a spine condemn racism +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02529-00535312-00535647 every single time otherwise you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02530-00535648-00536070 are condoning it +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02531-00536071-00536270 thank you uh senator thorpe senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02532-00536271-00536399 wright thank you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02533-00536400-00536639 minister payne's response to my question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02534-00536640-00536870 about justice for julian assange +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02535-00536871-00537135 to be taking action to free julian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02536-00537136-00537207 assange +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02537-00537208-00537462 taking action to reach out to her u.s +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02538-00537463-00537683 counterpart in the incoming biden +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02539-00537684-00537799 administration +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02540-00537800-00538143 was distressing it was the same old +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02541-00538144-00538455 same old basically complete +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02542-00538456-00538703 abrogation of the responsibility you +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02543-00538704-00538855 would think of this government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02544-00538856-00539087 to actually be protecting the rights of +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02545-00539088-00539214 a u.s citizen +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02546-00539215-00539551 julian assange is imprisoned in the uk +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02547-00539552-00539807 at the moment as a political prisoner +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02548-00539808-00540031 he is there because of a political +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02549-00540032-00540351 decision by the trump administration +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02550-00540352-00540703 to charge him with espionage +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02551-00540704-00540951 it is a political action that was taken +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02552-00540952-00541135 then and it is a political action that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02553-00541136-00541407 needs to be taken by our government +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02554-00541408-00541670 to be protecting his rights and yet when +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02555-00541671-00541927 i asked would she pick up the phone +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02556-00541928-00542143 would she pick up the phone so that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02557-00542144-00542391 julian assange could be freed from the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02558-00542392-00542575 awful conditions that he is still +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02559-00542576-00542695 experiencing +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02560-00542696-00542975 in the belmar prison in the uk her +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02561-00542976-00543159 answer was that i haven't yet met with +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02562-00543160-00543399 my counterpart anthony blinken but i'm +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02563-00543400-00543591 sure that in the course of a meeting +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02564-00543592-00543727 this matter would be +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02565-00543728-00544070 raised i mean this is appalling there is +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02566-00544071-00544318 no urgency there there is no commitment +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02567-00544319-00544495 there is a willingness to just let +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02568-00544496-00544743 julian assange continue to suffer in +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02569-00544744-00544799 jail +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02570-00544800-00545079 basically shrugging her shoulders at the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02571-00545080-00545222 potential of the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02572-00545223-00545439 u.s appealing the court judgment that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02573-00545440-00545583 basically that said he shouldn't be +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02574-00545584-00545703 extradited +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02575-00545704-00545975 by shrugging her shoulders at the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02576-00545976-00546151 potential of the appeal winning +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02577-00546152-00546499 at the potential of julian facing up to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02578-00546500-00546614 175 +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02579-00546615-00546870 years in jail of the year at jail in the +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02580-00546871-00546959 u.s +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02581-00546960-00547135 there is no recognition by this +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02582-00547136-00547343 government of the political nature +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02583-00547344-00547551 of the charges against assange and no +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02584-00547552-00547799 willing willingness to use the power +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02585-00547800-00548111 that as foreign minister she has to +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02586-00548112-00548431 to engage on a political level +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02587-00548432-00548647 i mean this decision to charge julian +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02588-00548648-00548870 assange by the trump administration +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02589-00548871-00549087 was because he was a whistleblower +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02590-00549088-00549270 because he published evidence of war +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02591-00549271-00549335 crimes +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02592-00549336-00549583 he revealed the murder of innocent men +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02593-00549584-00549718 women and children +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02594-00549719-00549927 crimes which the u.s defense force had +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02595-00549928-00550047 covered up +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02596-00550048-00550231 yet our australian government has +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02597-00550232-00550366 abandoned him +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02598-00550367-00550607 look the us they are meant to be our +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02599-00550608-00550687 mates +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02600-00550688-00550862 you would think that if you had an +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02601-00550863-00551014 australian citizen +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02602-00551015-00551239 that is being held as a political +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02603-00551240-00551462 prisoner the least this government could +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02604-00551463-00551511 do +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02605-00551512-00551766 would be to use their power to reach out +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02606-00551767-00551839 to attempt +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02607-00551840-00552111 to free julian assange thank you senator +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02608-00552112-00552214 rice so the question +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02609-00552215-00552527 is that the motion as moved by a senate +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02610-00552528-00552766 senator thought to take note of various +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02611-00552767-00552918 answers be agreed to those with that +Ay7rHHy7MjY-02612-00552919-00553176 opinion say