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What went wrong with C#?
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>>92816212 (OP)
>Microsoft
>Crappy ecosystem
>Dependency hell
>Contrived versioning
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>>92816240
this is pretty much it, the language itself is really awesome
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>>92816212 (OP)
For one the whole .NET rebranding is retarded and confusing.
And unless you're interested in gamedev there's virtually no reason to pick it over Java.
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>what if everything was Java, but different?
you have to package all of your code into "classes" for some reason
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>>92816212 (OP)
Everything
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>>92816212 (OP)
Nothing.
.net on the other hand...
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Bad documentation, feature creep and bound to a single OS.
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It's fine. But I like the comfiness of C++ which is why Im picking it back up despite my work using C#.
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>>92817932
But that makes sense considering cp files were already classes unofficially.
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>>92818406
>and bound to a single OS.
It hasnt been bound to a single OS for years.
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>>92816212 (OP)
Trannies
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>java++ 
>--oracle
>++microsoft

I mean, can I cut off my left testicle instead?
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>>92818469
Linux and Mac implementations aren't complete. Even Xamarin isn't working with Linux.
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>>92818518
C# can still be deployed to them.
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>>92818525
Only GUI less.
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>>92818556
Thats more than fine
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>>92818572
Literally only value of C# was making GUI programs quick and easy with lots of helpful things. If this isn't available for LTT OS or Mac OS it's just junk.
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Java fanboys are back at it again
As if oracle is better than M$ lmao
Enjoy programming with a language that's very vulnerable
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>>92818822
Lmao
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nothing
i like it
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>>92818456
so?
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>>92818518
>>92818556
Linux users hate gui anyway so it doesn't matter lol
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>>92816212 (OP)
C#: Awesome
.NET/Core/whateverFuckedUpNameItIsThisWeek: not so much

Java: Dicked up
JVM: Awesome, versatile

I'll pick the better runtime.
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>>92818556
You can code GUI shit for Linux using C#, but isn't as comfy as winforms
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>>92822042
With GTK, but that is useless as portable GUI toolkit. Java really runs everywhere.
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>>92816212 (OP)
I dunno. I use C# for work and it's alright. Nothing spectacular, just works.
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>>92816212 (OP)
>What went wrong with C#?
Not much at all. It's great.

>>92818556
>>92822852
Plenty of powerful GUI frameworks for .NET exist for Linux. Not just GTK.
Uno Platform, Avalon UI, Blazor, etc.
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wasm is the future and C# (Blazor) runs like absolute dogshit

good language tho
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>>92816212 (OP)
it was always shit
windows only, which is a joke nowadays
slower than Java
not portable at all, contrary to Java
patented
literally piece of crap
also this: >>92816240
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>>92816212 (OP)
Nothing.

C# and .NET are great.
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I'm writting WPF applications with prism targeted on the windows os.
As I moved from the Java to the C# I felt as a white man. Everything you can do much easier and it seems more naturally than in JavaFX. Especially there're less shitskins in projects when writting in C#. It looks like a language made by a white men for white men. But the time passes by the more street-defecants are comming in. I can't say a bad thing about WPF and it works perfectly for the the GUI applications developmnet. I used it for a while for developing webservices and ASP.NET also works fine. I guess it's more often used in web applications development as it is the most favourite field of the zoom zoomers. So you won't give a shit since you can run those webapps on whatever you want.
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>>92818481
what the fuck
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>>92826451
>windows only
.net core isn't
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>>92818518
>>92818556
You can use AvaloniaUI to create cross platform desktop apps with GUI
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>>92821556
>Java: Dicked up
y tho
Java has nice and modern features.
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>>92828047
>constant graphics glitches (especially on mac)
>insane amount of bugs https://github.com/AvaloniaUI/Avalonia/issues
>XAML
>insane memory usage
Into the trash.
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>>92826619
>claims to be a white man
>speaks English like a 3rd worlder
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>>92817915
Asynchronous callbacks are fucking impossible I no Java. C# makes them so easy. Why am I arguing over languages on here. I feel like such a fucking dumb retard. Only 12 year olds argue about which language is better. But I have to step in when Java is compared to C#. They may look similar but C# is so much better in every way
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>>92828190
Nigger Java has Virtual Threads now. It's a way better way to deal with concurrency than async/await which is an outdated model. When it comes to concurrency Java is on par with Golang and Erlang now.
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IHateWhenYouHaveToWriteFunctionsLikeThat
IHateMicrosoft
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Nothing went wrong with it.
Street shitting thread.
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>>92828220
Don't worry. In 2-3 years Microsoft will deprecate .NET Core by releasing .NET Ultra.
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I love how Microshills are trying to spread the narrative that Microsoft would be for white men even though the complete opposite is true

Let's look at how many street shitters / sandniggers are working on .NET and how many on the OpenJDK
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>>92828272
no, they'll call it .NET Core 2. which will be distinct from .NET Core 2.0 (that's a version of .NET Core 1)
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cant really say anything went wrong, use it at work for a web app backend and its extremely easy to use
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>>92828268
sir, please do the needful and join our C# expert conference next year. we have many nice lady
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>>92828047
name one cross platform desktop program made with avaloniaui that's not hello world tier shit
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>>92816212 (OP)
>c#
>java
>asp.net
The ultimate street shitting pajeet arsenal
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>>92828449
In his defense there are a couple of ones but they're all bloated (large package size) and slow garbage https://github.com/AvaloniaCommunity/awesome-avalonia#samples-and-projects. Especially on Mac there are so many graphics glitches it's unbelievable. Also for some reason the rendering on Avalaonia applications is just fucking ugly.
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>>92817915
Dude, .NET Core came out like 7 years ago, there has been just a single .NET for more than 3 years.
That's like 5 Javascript frameworks' worth of time.
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>>92828220
No it doesn't, they will only come in Java 21 which will come out this september, C# async has been alive and kicking for more than a decade.
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>>92828842
>No it doesn't, they will only come in Java 21 which will come out this september
Eh you can already use it anyway. There aren't going to be any changes in 21. It's basically just a formality. Try harder.
> C# async has been alive and kicking for more than a decade.
Enjoy your colored functions. Async/await is such a mess it's almost as bad as reactive.
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>>92828842
Oh and how could I forgot. You won't even have to recompile your code. You can pick a 20y old projectand it will benefit from Project Loom right away while 10y old projects don't work at all on .NET Core (which is called .NET now).
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>>92816212 (OP)
nothing, freetards seethe more about it every day
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>The .NET SDK includes a telemetry feature that collects usage data and sends it to Microsoft when you use .NET CLI commands. The usage data includes exception information when the .NET CLI crashes. The .NET CLI comes with the .NET SDK and is the set of verbs that enable you to build, test, and publish your .NET apps. Telemetry data helps the .NET team understand how the tools are used so they can be improved. Information on failures helps the team resolve problems and fix bugs.
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>>92816212 (OP)
>What went wrong with C#?
Even if you are a C#fag, you have to admit that M$ seriously mishandled C# in the beginning. If I *wanted* to kill a language, I'd do things M$ did, like make it proprietary, binary-incompatible, only usable on Windows lmao. It's kind of amazing C# is still around at all. 
You can say, "who care's C# is good now" but it seriously hurt C#'s adoption in non-enterprise environments.
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>>92816212 (OP)
Not much. But they do need to fix their versioning. They also need to make it easier run it without visual studio. Shit is a fucking nightmare without vs. 

Importing custom libs from dlls without vs is fucking painful. I hate that xml config shit. They also need a way to import and install all dependancies of a project in a virtual environment. Moving a project from machine to machine is a cluster fuck.
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>>92818481
would pump with semen
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>>92828992
This right here is enough reason to not use it.
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>>92816212 (OP)
>What went wrong with C#?
Trying to copy every feature of F# instead of just promoting F#.
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>>92828842
sure, it's common knowledge that C# rushes into shiny features to attract newbie children attracted by shiny things, while Java takes its time and implements them better while rejecting all the failures