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They did this series dirty.
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Mandate schizos are some of the worst posters on /v/
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why are paper mario fans so much more autistic compared to mario & luigi fans
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>>634345029 (OP)
Tranny series 
I am glad its dead
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>>634345308
You mean the people that criticize them, or the people that defend them? If you mean the latter, I agree.
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>>634347045
>I am glad its dead
u wot?
series has gotten at least one game per gen since 64
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The people who deny the mandates are the most brainwashed retards to ever exist.
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>>634345029 (OP)
Why did it have so many genre changes
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>>634345308
>schizos
>implying the mandate isn't real
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>>634348987
go back to resetera
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>>634350071
The Mandate. Is. REAL!!!!!!
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no the newest one was fucking great. people cried about it because it wasn’t the same exact game for the tenth time.
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>>634350171
ToK honestly has a really bad combat system that is boring and far too easy, offering no reason to engage with combat unless mandatory.
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>>634345029 (OP)
I'd be satisfied if Nintendo just made a new RPG series and let the devs experiment with the IP a little
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>>634350171
>because it wasn’t the same exact game for the tenth time.
it's literally just sticker star 3
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>>634345029 (OP)
Seems like the 1st and 2nd games were not how it was meant to be.
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>>634350171
It was the exact same game for the third time. There's less variety between Color Splash and TOK than there is between Paper Mario 64 and Paper Mario TTYD. It also wasn't great.
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>>634352695
They're exactly how they were meant to be. It's back when Mario RPGs were considered special events instead of just another spin-off.
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The original and TTYD were by far the best. The rest were complete shit. And before you start, fuck off SPM apologists, that game sucked donkey dick.
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Let the series stay buried, it's a shambling corpse that doesn't even try to pretend to be its former self anymore. Legitimately, just give up on praying for Tanabe to get his head out of his ass. Find alternatives, they actually exist now if you're looking for a fix.
If you're such a faggot purist that you won't touch indies because it NEEDS to be Mario, just keep playing the original and TTYD, find ROM hacks and fuck around with games that cannot be ruined.
>but I only want OFFICIAL
then you're shit out of luck, take it or leave it.
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>There hasn't been a new Paper Mario game since before the last F-Zero game

Last Paper Mario game: 7/22/2004
Last F-Zero game: 10/21/2004
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>>634350171
This is a meme spouted by people who desperately want to control the narrative on Paper Mario. The combat is STILL ass. There is little to no reason to fight anything in the game. The story is still as shit as in Color Splash and Sticker Star.

The only thing it really does better than Sticker Star is music and boss battles. It's irredeemable, but a 5/10 looks like a masterpiece next to a 1/10, even if it can't measure up to the 9/10 originals.
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>Did this series dirty
Why is black people lingo popular on 4chins now?
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>>634345029 (OP)
>Paper Mario is being kept alive only to be mutilated and mockingly paraded around by Kensuke Tanabe because he's a spiteful brat who can't take criticism
>Mario & Luigi is dead because AlphaDream couldn't budget Dream Team responsibly
>Mario + Rabbids is dead because Ubisoft threw it under the bus by blaming it as one of the major factors for their company's abysmal earnings
>Super Mario RPG basically got folded into Paper Mario, so that's dead too
PLEASE let one of the upcoming Paper Mario 64 hacks be good. That's the last big hope left.
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>>634355594
Jesus that's depressing to think about, even if F-Zero won out by just a few months.
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>>634355594
people overreact so much to SPM...it wasn't so shit that it was worth erasing. It might not be to the level of its predecessors, but it's still worth noting as 'paper mario'.

its the shit AFTER spm that deserves to be erased

we're talking like star wars prequels vs sequels level of shittiness here. no need to disown spm
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>>634358971
SPM isn't a paper mario game in any way other than aesthetics and title.
The thing isn't even the same fucking genre. It's just a shitty platformer being propped up by its story, most of which isn't even about mario or the world he inhabits.
The game only barely skirts the line for being allowed to be a considered a gray area since at its core was meant to be a gamecube spinoff and not a full title for their next console. It sold a fuckton because the Wii sold a fuckton. At the very least the game wasn't even attempting to pretend to be a core PM game, it embraced the fact that it was diametrically different; whether you tolerate that or not is personal preference.
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Why did Paper Mario get hit by the Mario mandate harder than the M&L series
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>>634359959
Tanabe has a weird, overcorrective sense of loyalty to Miyamoto.
>Miyamoto says he thought PM 3DS was too much of a TTYD clone
DERP ALRIGHT LET'S MAKE A GIMMICK GAME RADICALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE FIRST TWO GAMES
>Miyamoto says that story isn't too important
DERP ALRIGHT TIME TO REMOVE PRETTY MUCH ANY STORY
>Miyamoto says that he wants the staff to minimize the use of new characters
DERP ALRIGHT THAT MEANS NSMB IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN GET CHARACTERS FROM
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This is a series with no consistency. Insert whatever random bullshit Intelligent Systems wants to make at a given point and put Paper Mario on it and you got a Paper Mario game.
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>>634354449
I saw an interview with the director or whatever and the interviewer asked why they switched the winning formula of TTYD to experiment with each new installment and his reply was: 

>that was not the game's vision, if you want that then play Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga
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Why does Paper Mario even still exist? I refuse to believe the literal excrement they've produced since 2012 is selling.

You can't just churn out garbage forever, you go out of business like Alphadream. Are they just using Fire Emblem money to prop up the dogshit Paper Mario team??
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Reminder that paper Mario was trash compare to the masterpiece that is Mario RPG

They dindunuffin wrong, a trash RPG turned into an interesting puzzle solver
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Paper Mario was never good. We need a true Super Mario RPG sequel.
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>>634360923
I remember seeing that interview, my exact response was "Then where the fuck is the Mario & Luigi game for the Wii U?"
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>>634361223
Origami King still hasn't officially beaten Super Paper Mario yet despite having an OBSCENE sales advantage and lost its legs incredibly fast.
>much larger install base at release
>released in 2020, when practically ANYTHING Nintendo sold bajillions of copies
So your guess is as good as mine.
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Only real problem with Super Mario RPG is that it was stupid easy by design because "Americans too dumb to understand RPG."
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>>634361737
Cause paper Mario is obviously the dark souls of rpgs who the fuck is culex anyways
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>>634345029 (OP)
the series went to shit after TTYD
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>>634345308
You are the first reply and the first person to bring up the mandate, you schizo. Take your meds. NOW
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>>634345029 (OP)
>No new F-Zero, Earthbound, or Punch Out games
>Meanwhile this garbage gets continuously shit out and the series hasn't even been good since the Gamecube
Nintendo is truly an enigma at times
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>>634345308
There's definitely SOMETHING screwy going on with Nintendo and their approach to character designs. In the Mario Movie, every single toad is physically a recolor. Not even a glimpse of Toadette or Toadsworth. Meanwhile the civilian Kongs have massive variety in their styles and body types.
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>>634345308
Mandate deniers are the flat Earthers of gaming.
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>>634360923
That was referring to Color Splash, not the series' initial direction. The original Paper Mario was pitched and directed as a spiritual sequel to Super Mario RPG.
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>>634363373
Why Color Splash is so different? Because color splash is not our vision so play Superstar Saga?
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>>634363576
A few factors. One, the director of the original games no longer works on them. Two, because Miyamoto wanted the games to be more like spin-offs that are in line with mainline Mario, to be less like 64 and TTYD, and to get rid of story as much as possible. Three, Tanabe is a hack that lead the series into the most unsatisfyingly gimmicky and sterile direction possible.
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>>634363897
>Tanabe is a hack that lead the series into the most unsatisfyingly gimmicky and sterile direction possible.
Never forget. Never forgive.