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--- 634345384
Is Umineko really that good?
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no, dude.
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it's the best work of fiction of all time
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>>634345384 (OP)
No. It has some decent ideas, but the actual execution leaves a lot to be desired.
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>>634345384 (OP)
1st half is top-tier, 2nd half is complete shit
Just like all of r07's works
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It was shit
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>>634345384 (OP)
Mental masturbation about what's real and what's not which discussion is kept alive by memes.
The Voice acting is pretty good though.
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>>634346316
I played without voice acting and didn't feel like it was needed.
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No.
I read the whole thing twice. It's fine, but it's obviously flawed. However way too many people have too many misconceptions about it. Which makes it tougher to recommend/not recommend.
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>>634346035
Honestly after reading some more VNs it seems like a fucking pattern with japanese authors. Not too amazing at the beginning, then it gets really interesting, and then it goes downhill, specially towards the end.
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>>634345384 (OP)

Only if you have actual love
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First half or just early chapters was fine, later it turned into BS.
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>>634345384 (OP)
No, it's better than that good
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>>634346035
>>634346113
>>634347217
Don't listen to these loveless goats
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>>634345384 (OP)
ryu did the mistake of using logic as a 'mechanic' without understanding how logic works
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>>634346665
Yeah, I feel you, so many otherwise decent works are brought down by this
>Muv-Luv
>Utawarerumono
>13 Sentinels
>Baldr Sky
>Chaos;Head + Child
There are a few games with decent endings (Kara no Shoujo, Black Souls, Hanachirasu, Steins;Gate) but they're few and far between
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>>634347082
actual love for aunts
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Shit pacing, repetitive dialogue, 80% of scenes are boring filler, game constantly non-sequiturs and jumps around to new shit instead of developing pre-existing plot threads

It has good music. That's about it
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>>634348369
I prefer maria
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>>634348691
Hey, it had some cool mysteries. It's mostly bad, but it's not completely unredeemable
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>>634345384 (OP)
I lost all interest in solving this shit when the epitaph included jap puns
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>>634345384 (OP)
No, it is garbage for gullible retards that think idiotic = deep.
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>>634348281
>Muv-Luv
What do you mean, it had the literal exact opposite problem. Alternative onwards was a fucking ride.
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>>634345384 (OP)
Its bad but I want to fuck Rosa.
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Remember11>I/O>Ever17>Never7>Fatal Twelve>Umineko>Flowers>Morgana>Dogshit>Steins Gate
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>>634350194
>Never7 that high
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>>634350194
Fata Morgana is much better than umineko, it's only lacking voice acting
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We're never getting Ciconia Phase 2 are we?
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>>634350191
If Maria had a father figure she wouldn't be quite so autistic, and if Rosa were getting dicked down on the regular, she would be a little more relaxed.

Natushi's hotter though.
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>>634350331
The sequels being a billion times better doesn't retroactively make the original bad
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>>634351640
All true and Natsuhi deserves a better husband.
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>>634350973
I love how Ryukishi is such a bleeding heart faggot. His stuff has been getting progressively more degenerate: with Ciconia he just comes out with it and starts rambling about trannies and furries. I love reading his stuff just because he's so god damn weird.
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>>634348713
All little girls should know how to load a shotgun.
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>>634350194
>I/O that high

You're not a Subj*ctivist, are you?

Honestly, I/O just pissed me off. The start was a decent cyberpunk dystopia story but the author got lost up his own ass around the halfway point. After that final ending where the Lesbian groomer in her 30's mind melded with a highschool boy to get together with his underage sister I just decided that enough was enough, so I reloaded an old save to kill her and lock the world into a bad ending, it's what all the characters deserve. Root Double was also kind off with how the author clearly favored some choices, but at least it had more of a chance to disagree and tell the designated correct characters to fuck themselves. And at least that designated correct character wasn't a pedophile groomer.
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>>634352002
>implying
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>>634352863
Nope. The first arc of I/O was so incredible that it easily makes up for the decline after Ishtar route 1
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>>634345384 (OP)
Yes, enjoy it!
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>>634348281
baldr sky's ending was on par with the rest of the game though, if anything it's higher quality
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>>634345384 (OP)
it's the best book
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>>634353301
Kek. This was the biggest hurdle in the first couple games because no one could tell what the fuck was going on. I played these games as they released and people literally had to explain on forums that the meta characters are separate entities, because Ryukishi sure as hell didn't. To be fair, the ending makes this all make sense in context.
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>>634348281
think you just have absolutely terminal shit taste holy fuck
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>>634350191
Is there any good porn of her though?
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>>634353301
I’m part three and I am wondering this. It feels like the story derailed the moment magic shit started happening
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>>634353763
I still haven't finished it, but it was clear to me that the Battler arguing over shit with Beato was happening somewhere other than where the events of each episode are, though it's not clear where, exactly.
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>>634354495
>Part 3

It hasn't even begun to derail yet.
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>>634354302
I don't think there's much porn in general
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>>634354615
It's all quite simple really
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>>634354302
No, Higurashi mostly gets all the porn and its mostly just Rika and Satoko. Uminekos very unpopular in japan so it doesn't really ever get art and western artists rather focus on Lamb and bern being lesbos or making Beatrice a tranny then make porn about them.
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>>634348281
>Black Souls
G would've been a better final ending. 
Some parts of DLC3 drop the ball hard but it's only the end of the second part so it might recover.
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>>634354882
Right, but like, WHERE is it?
How do I get there?
There's stakes there that need molesting, and I need to figure out if Zepar or Furfur is the one with the penis.
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>>634346035
5&6 of both Higurashi and Umineko are easily the best parts of their work though
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>>634348281
Muv Luv and Utwarerumono literally only get good at the end
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>>634350973
What will Ciconia's Rika be like?
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>>634354302
a bit
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>>634360024
Why the fuck is Koshka not on this?