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----- --- 14891526 What caused the surge of incarceration in America beginning in the 90s and peaking in the 2000s? --- 14891531 >>14891526 (OP) Blacks. --- 14891537 >>14891531 Blacks have existed in America before the 90s. --- 14891538 war on drugs. you can see it starts rising in the 70s. the 80s were the decade of coke. --- 14891550 >>14891537 democrats passed anti-gang legislation because they were ignoring gangs because that's racist and everybody knew it, they made it a federal offense to be in a gang and so... blacks --- 14891553 >>14891537 So? --- 14891580 >>14891537 Impossible --- 14891590 >>14891526 (OP) Mexicans. --- 14891592 >>14891526 (OP) All these guys are just getting out now --- 14891605 longer sentences for drug crimes --- 14891623 >>14891526 (OP) Jews started pushing crack and gangster rap to negros. This created a new more criminal culture than the previous one -- which was still very criminal. --- 14891733 >>14891526 (OP) A massive crime wave started in the 1960s and raged until the early 1990s when a general consensus among politicians was that there needed to be tougher sentencing on criminal. It worked. Crime rates fell across the board for the next 20 years. --- 14891741 >>14891526 (OP) Every once in a while some guy remembers mass incarceration was a thing than revives it. Diff between that and say the 1800s and the pre mid 20th century is just a matter of scale. --- 14891749 >>14891733 >It worked. It didn't anon. Rates were dropping prior to mass incarceration bit now with prisons being filled up led to costs skyrocketing and many prisons being outsourced or severely underfunded. --- 14891750 >>14891733 > A massive crime wave started in the 1960s Why --- 14891753 >>14891550 >anti-gang legislation because they were ignoring gangs because that's racist Lol shut up they never cared about being racist. --- 14891769 >>14891753 Northern Democrats have been nigger kissing libtards since the 70's, Northern democrat political machines are based on political patronage and have been for 200 years, that is, behaving like a mob that "pays off" voters. That's why democrats to this day do everything in their power to ignore black crime, because they're their voters --- 14891774 >>14891750 All crime waves are linked to gang activity. Blacks flooded the inner cities and all the women went on welfare, the jobs all left so what do al the black men do? Blacks don't actually create jobs so they prey on each other, selling heroin and crack and killing each other for the right to do that --- 14891788 >>14891769 >Northern Democrats have been nigger kissing libtards since the 70's Not really. They have thrown many grouos including blacks under the bus for years. >That's why democrats to this day do everything in their power to ignore black crime, because they're their voters Completely false because some if the hardest crackdowns or promises on being tough on crime cane from Democrats too. Democrats also have kneecapped welfare just like they republican counterparts too. --- 14891793 >>14891788 I honestly think a lot of posters here are just foreigners doing shitty takes on Anerican politics and history lol. Either that or too young lol. --- 14891961 >>14891788 Everyone knows welfare only really benefits brown people, it's obvious.once you realize that and realize how even subconsciously people acknowledge this you can understand why at one point the Democrat party tried to appeal to white people by claiming they wanted lower the benefits. It's all politics, most people arent aware that democrat literally pay brown people to vote for them and consciously do so --- 14891971 >>14891961 >Everyone knows welfare only really benefits brown people A fuckton of whites are on it snd other forms of social assistance. Stop getting your info from shotholes. >It's all politics, most people arent aware that democrat literally pay brown people to vote for them and consciously do so. There us literally nothing stopping other parties to try to entice other voters. Democrats don't have magic powers. --- 14891982 >>14891971 Whites went from 97% of welfare beneficiaries to now well below 50%, I wouldn't doubt if it was below 40%. If this is okay to you you're a disingenuous nigger --- 14892019 >>14891750 leaded gasoline --- 14892023 >>14892019 Why do you believe that? --- 14892116 >>14892023 he's retarded pay him no mind --- 14892175 >>14891750 Really gets the noggin joggin --- 14892455 >>14891526 (OP) The War on Drugs. The United States government began to use incarceration as a means of policing and controlling communities that were perceived to be involved in or affected by the illegal drug trade. --- 14892489 >>14892116 Lead was also in a lot of paint and schools. --- 14892492 >>14891526 (OP) joggers --- 14892494 >>14891982 >Whites went from 97% of welfare beneficiaries to now well below 50%, Because other non-whites could now access it since historically they could not and had to rely on charities as whites in most areas gained access to state/fed assistance. The flat number on welfare is still high and that's not counting the people who only earn just enough to be ineligible OR those who keep fluctuating around the line. --- 14892516 >>14891537 hory sheet --- 14892883 >>14891526 (OP) It began in the 70s actually. Legislators and prosecutors started taking discretion in sentencing away from judges. Then judges realized they were allowed to impose the maximum sentence possible if a defendant simply chose to go to trial and not plead guilty. >>14891733 It didn't. Crime rates in the US fell roughly in the same proportion they did in other countries at the same time. --- 14893285 >>14891750 Not entirely clear, but leaded gasoline and a high population of young people and unwanted kids were probably factors --- 14893299 >>14891526 (OP) Police worshipping. Sucking the thin blue cock. --- 14893317 Clinton cringe Bill --- 14893322 >>14891526 (OP) Americans have an almost sexual obsession with police and incarceration. Americans are a hypocritical nation of golems who try to claim they’re the center of the “free world” yet are also the prison capital of the world. Americans push for stronger policing, longer sentences, and strict legalism. Americans cheer on overzealous prosecutors. Americans write out disturbingly-detailed fantasies of how they hope criminals are raped by black men in prison, likely due to their mass sexual attraction to black men. America is a nation of slaves with a sexual fetish for authority and blacks. --- 14893327 >>14893322 The good news is that there's been a bit of a backlash against this in the scholarly/legal world and general public. People are realizing how unusual and overzealous practices like mandatory minimums, cash bail, and three strikes laws are. --- 14893328 >>14893327 The glory of trial and error --- 14893337 >>14893327 A good portion of the country is still pushing back at any attempt at reform, Florida for example is pushing to make the death penalty not bound by a unanimous jury decision. --- 14893416 >>14893322 >niggers get thrown in prison, rightfully >THIS IS A SEX THING lay off the soi lattes --- 14893426 >>14891526 (OP) Cheap prison labour to outsource jobs. --- 14893431 >>14893416 You don't get it, do you? By how dumb you are, you are probably american. --- 14893435 >>14893431 >duuuuh nigger dick >sir I would just like criminals to be put in prison >NIGGER DICK NIGGER DICK NIGGER DICK post hands --- 14893460 >>14893337 Jeez I'm pretty sure that's how a particularly famous wrongful near-execution happened --- 14893465 >>14891537 Source? --- 14894810 >>14893465 Uhh anon... --- 14895254 >>14891526 (OP) There's one big factor and a bunch of minor contributing factors. The big factor hands down is the 1994 Clinton crime bill and mandatory minimum sentencing. That is one of the worst fucking pieces of legislation ever to pass the President's desk. Other contributing factors include Nixon's War on Drugs that preceded the crime bill, RICO and the government crackdown on organized crime and gangs, the prevalence of lead poisoning especially in urban areas stemming from the use of leaded gasoline which led to a measurable uptick in violence, and the overall culture of the judicial system and backlog and insufficient resources for criminal defense, which all incentivize the prosecution to throw the book at you for every little offense, and most (poor and melanin-enriched) defendants to just take a plea deal and go to jail regardless of guilt. --- 14895296 >>14893435 He's not wrong. A lot of Americans have a closet fetish fir prison rape --- 14895748 >>14895254 >insufficient resources for criminal defense, which all incentivize the prosecution to throw the book at you for every little offense I think one jurisdiction in Alaska or something tried cracking down on coerced plea bargains and instead of the court system collapsing prosecutors just picked the most important cases to prioritize and police knew they had to be thorough and by-the-book when gathering evidence. --- 14895761 >>14894810 I accept your concession. --- 14895783 >>14891750 Boomers coming of age, the sexual revolution, new left terrorism, expanded access to drugs. You know what I think lead to a drop of crime after the 90s? Video games. Kids weren't wandering the street with nothing to do after school and the weekends, they were in their rooms playing Xbox with friends. --- 14895922 >>14895254 > Clinton crime bill Quick rundown on this --- 14895942 >>14895783 >You know what I think lead to a drop of crime after the 90s? Prosecuting gangbangers as felons and throwing them away for 20 years? --- 14895947 >>14895922 >Democrat mayors ignore organized black crime because they don't want to seem racist >everybody leaves the cities >cities become such an embarrassment by the 90's that all republicans have to do is point at the cities to win elections >democrats super pissed that they have to actually do something >introduce bill to crack down on black crime >crime falls precipitously, blacks are super pissed forever --- 14896074 >>14891750 White people started moving out of the cities to suburbs taking all the jobs and wealth with them. The blacks who remained started getting involved with gangs and drug trafficking as it was the only way to make money in the inner cities. Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan were scared of black people and they’re voting power so they started making drug dealing a serious crime to go after black people. --- 14896154 >>14895947 Dumbass, middle class blacks voted on it. Issue was that it turned on them. Stop leaving out key pieces of info and lying a lot. --- 14896158 >>14895947 >>Democrat mayors ignore organized black crime So now they are organized crime? --- 14896166 >>14895922 Hired like 100k+ police officers, expanded the potential application of the federal death penalty, cracked down on some kinds of firearms and gang offenses. IIRC it also expanded the federal prison system and funded the expansion of state prison systems. It also incentivized three-strikes laws and mandatory longer periods of no parole, euphemistically called "truth in sentencing." https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/COMPS-10824/uslm/COMPS-10824.xml --- 14896172 >>14896166 That and being heavily reliant on plea bargaining --- 14896179 >>14891526 (OP) The limp-dicked farce of a Law enforcement campaign we hyperbolically call the "War on Drugs." It should've been literal, but our "government" preemptively handicapped itself with a little thing called the 21st amendment. --- 14896216 >>14896179 It failed so badly. It wasn't really made to have an "end" because fundamentally Americans just love getting inebriated on something and have the size and clout to be a huge market that sucks everything in. --- 14896218 >>14896216 >Americans just love getting inebriated on something Indeed. Just look at our founders... --- 14896394 >>14896154 >like 5 blacks agreed that crime is bad so haha! do niggers think this is intelligent --- 14896403 >>14896394 You are so stupid. Get the fuck out brownie --- 14896413 >>14896403 Tell me how you think some niggers thinking crime is bad is somehow a monumental achievement for the race --- 14897753 >>14896413 Cry about it --- 14897758 >>14891526 (OP) Purely socioeconomic factors --- 14897765 >>14896413 I'll spell it out for you because your thirdie education system totally neglects literacy. >Issue was that it turned on them It also turned on whites because polcie started becoming more abusive towards them too and engaged in over-policing. --- 14897915 >>14897765 >Muh police brutality Doesn't exist. Also that doesn't follow logically, you might be mentally ill --- 14898095 >>14897915 >doesn't exist Take your meds --- 14898096 >>14891526 (OP) Boomers no question. There sociopathic lust for money and to watch others suffer. --- 14898114 >>14897915 >>Muh police brutality >Doesn't exist. People day that then act surprised when some twitch cop beats the living snot out if a guy on camera lol. --- 14898144 >>14898114 Yeah that doesn't happen in reality, have you tried staying off of black victimhood twitter --- 14898185 >>14891733 >>14891750 It didn't. It returned back to normal. >>14892019 >>14893285 How did the ban of leaded gasoline cause a massive surge in incarceration rates? --- 14898272 >>14898144 Stay off boomerbook --- 14898285 >>14898272 Facebook is another nigger conspiracy theory enclave jamal --- 14898315 >>14898285 Okay boomer --- 14898420 >>14895254 they also modified Federal parole so one had to serve at least 75% of their sentence --- 14899086 >>14891750 Heroin, then crack. --- 14899363 >>14896074 >blacks do criminal things >go to jail >"this is white peoples fault" --- 14899396 >>14897915 Cops in New Mexico literally fucking murdered an innocent man in his own home last night because they broke into the wrong home and saw he was armed you stupid fucking faggot bootlicker I don’t know why anyone sucks cop dick when they’re the ones enforcing unjust laws and snatching your guns --- 14900436 >this thread and internet discourse in general >Increasingly obvious America will have to go through a phase of retarded bleeding heart YIMBYs again until their unleashed pets kill enough innocent people to create a new backlash Greaaaaaaat. Maybe we'll get a new wave of seedy crime thriller kinos out of it at least. --- 14900507 >>14900436 Shut up brat. Your shit takes aren't any good. --- 14900510 >>14900436 NIMBYism is what destabilizes societies. --- 14900520 >>14900436 >YIMBYs So denser affordable housing is bad? --- 14900831 >>14891750 Welfare reform allowed single moms to live off daddy government instead of keeping the real dads around. Fatherless children = more crime. Very simple really, there shouldn't be such a debate about it but here we are. --- 14900843 >>14899396 Which alphabet agency is in charge of making sure people don't take revenge on cops and criminals or their families? --- 14900847 >>14900831 >Fatherless children = more crime. Why do you believe that? --- 14900866 >>14900847 nignogs need really strong parenting to not be complete losers --- 14901625 >>14900866 Dilate --- 14901759 >>14900831 >Welfare reform allowed single moms to live off daddy government instead of keeping the real dads around. You say that yet policing before during and after welfare targetted Black men such as arbitrary detention. Even with dads, families would still be EXACTLY as poor as they were sans dad and still suffer form poverty. You can't even say "welfare reform" because prior to Blacks beingm able to access welfare they were pretty much barred from welfare that most whites could access and had to rely on charities or Northern organizations. --- 14902488 >>14891526 (OP) The Clinton Administration --- 14902596 >>14891526 (OP) Rap music --- 14903076 >>14901759 Niggers weren't allowed to get welfare because they were almost always getting money through some side hustle or had some lazy unemployed nigger boyfriend pumping them full of seed Welfare reform was about removing these restrictions --- 14903818 >>14903076 I presume you have evidence? --- 14903831 >>14895942 >Prosecuting gangbangers as felons and throwing them away for 20 years? Or at least until Obama was president and 1960s level of cupcake justice came back. --- 14904011 >>14903831 State and federal justice systems aren't as harsh as they were 40 years ago but they still are stricter than they were in the 50s to early 70s period. Mandatory minimums, three strikes laws, coerced plea bargains, and disproportionately long sentences are still common practice. --- 14904165 >>14900847 >>14901759 The more opportunities a child has to interact with his or her biological father, the less likely he or she is to commit a crime or have contact with the juvenile justice system (Coley and Medeiros, 2007). In a study of female inmates, more than half came from a father-absent home (Snell, Tracy, & Morton, 1991). Youths who never had a father living with them have the highest incarceration rates (Hill, O’Neill, 1993), while youths in father-only households display no difference in the rate of incarceration from that of children coming from two-parent households (Harper and McLanahan, 2004). In addition, children who come from father-absent homes are at a greater risk for using illicit substances at a younger age (Bronte-Tinkew, Jacinta, Moore, Capps, & Zaff, 2004). The absence of a father in a child’s life may also increase the odds of his or her associating with delinquent peers (Steinberg, 1987). |