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----- --- 14902200 Why did Europe progress past the medieval era in terms of science and technology, while the rest of the world sort of just stagnated? --- 14902518 >>14902200 (OP) colonizing the Americas I guess, that continent has everything oil, animals, plants, rivers and gold, it doesn't get any better --- 14902526 >>14902518 Spain and portugal stagnated still --- 14902541 >>14902518 >oil, Not much more than lets say mena >animals Not more than south asia or africa. None domestic except llamas >plants There is some good crops and stuff in america true. >rivers Not particullary good or bad >gold This was relevant probably... but the parts of europe that more developed (england, france, germany) barely got any gold from Americas Plantations and cotton, vanilla, tobacco, other luxury stuff selling + potato and other crops may be the best exchange --- 14902556 >>14902526 Spain and Portugal don't have the power to exploit, lie and rob a whole continent and a race of people. jews, Anglos and the French do that, and they benefited the most from it, that's why they were always superior to Russia and Germany --- 14902590 >>14902541 Well dose mena have plants or animals? Or dose south Asia have oil? The Americas basically has everything even if they are only superior in the things you mentioned like tobacco, cotton, sugar and other crops. --- 14902621 >>14902590 >Well dose mena have plants or animals MENA is quite diverse climatically. Iran or the mesopotamian/levant area definitely do. South asia as well, pakistan has a good deal of oil, biodiversity, rivers, etc. Same with north india in general. I think most of it traces to specific plantation systems of certain goods for trade rather than america being resourceful for settlers --- 14902629 >>14902200 (OP) Europe is a heavily balkanized penninsula with easy access to the ocean and geography that allows states to form in relative isolation from eachother. This created a highly competitive enviornment ran by aristocrats who needed to defend their wealth. Only the ones with the most powerful militaries were able to defend it. The very concept of military intelligence arose from this enviornment. European powers like Britain realized having extensive knowledge of your enemies positions and infrastructure was key to winning wars. They then began commissioning agents to conduct research, gathering data and logging the local enviornments. This further developed into modern sciences and engineering. --- 14902658 >>14902556 >Spain and Portugal don't have the power to exploit, lie and rob a whole continent and a race of people lol, portugal traded the most slaves, had most plantation systems, had one of the last colonies in america to ban slavery, and exterminated natives fair and left Spain genocided a entire race and groomed the other half, put 50% in forced labour camps called encomiendas and haciendas where people had a bizarre mortality rate. Extingished the 38 million population of the inca empire and exploited it to death like it did with tainos sending them to work like dogs non stop with barely any payment for subsistence into silver mines, erradicated the aztec empire and stole insane ammount of gold that made it back to the peninsula. Raped, destroyed cultures, enslaved. The sole reason black slaves started arriving the Peru was that spain managed to decimate a 38M population so far they couldnt get more workforce for their mines, created oligarchic drug dealing feuds and broken states, everything with a colonial infrastructure meant to discriminate and create economic dependence to the extent modern natives still underrepresented in countries with 80% native populations in south america. The whole religious indoctrination they started was because the pope gave them that condition after they exterminated tainos just to accumulate more political power and they needed to be fine because the pope granted lands. Not only spain is one of the most evil states to ever exist. They are also a fucking shame for anything. No scientists. No first world countries. No inventions --- 14902864 >>14902200 (OP) The Renaissence. Coupled with exploring the world. It's not so much the stuff you get from overseas like spices or tobacco but the knowledge you get of geography, navigation, astronomy, geology, natural sciences, anatomy of niggers and mexicans, etc and the impact of assimilating that you are not alone in Europe and all these fascinating strange brown, black and yellow new worlds are yours to take. That's the good stuff. You learn. It was the equivalent of building a quantum supercomputer. Input spices, input maximize profit by time of travelling and cost of feeding negros. What? Does not compute?. Someone invent advanced mathemathics pls? Thanks Leibniz and Newton. Now, where were we? Input indios, maximize gold, times galleon, compute hurricane season, gib solution, it works!. Meanwhile everybody else was in the medieval age or in the stone age watching the same shit every single fucking day. Input banan, solution monke. They unlearn. --- 14902873 Europa got out of the barbarian middle ages thanks to Italians. Greco Latin civilization has always been there by de facto no matter what they tell you. --- 14902874 >>14902200 (OP) Superior military tech due to prolonged warfare but also the invention of the printing press which kickstarted all the scientific movements that took place --- 14902892 >>14902200 (OP) Western Europe didn't have to build their civilization around dealing with steppeniggers. --- 14903208 >>14902556 The british were literally irrelevant until the 1700s and the french were on the defensive with ottoman support until then lol --- 14903209 >>14902892 >huns >avars >magyars Also southeast asia was the most shielded region from them --- 14903244 Constantinople collapsed, the west benefitted from the brain drain and exodus of intelligentsia from the eastern empire, and honestly Arabs have a lot to do with early chemistry while Rosicrucians were running around being goofy, but eventually they got their shit together --- 14904239 >>14903209 >Huns, Avars Pretty much ancient history to most of Western Europe by the time of the renaissance >Magyars Eastern European power The SEAns had some great naval powers of their own, but they had the problem of not being in a prime position for colonization. --- 14904418 >>14902200 (OP) Genetics, resulting in superior intelligence, and other personality traits. Next thread please. --- 14904429 >>14902200 (OP) You have to remember that the Muslim "golden era" was build on the backs of Christians whose lands they plundered, if the muslism didnt invade Europe we could be living on the moon right now. --- 14904442 >>14902200 (OP) PURELY SOCIOECONOMIC REASONS! --- 14904987 Christianity |