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--- 57857018
Let's talk retro, post your carry handles, A4's with handles also welcome

Also general Retro thread
--- 57857058
>another general
last thing the board needs
OP sucks cocks
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>>57857018 (OP)
Carry handles are neat
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>>57857136
https://youtu.be/nUq4pg1zGic [Embed]

goddamn why does the A1 evoke such a cool image even though we ultimately lost that war
--- 57857678
>inb4 ban-compliant
I got it for a steal just before Sandy Hook destroyed the market
--- 57857736
I want to get an A1/A2 purely for the 20 inch barrel and the looks. I don’t care about authenticity or making a real clone, I just want the look. What’s a good 20 inch upper that’s actually in stock, I would say carry handle only but this would be a range toy so I don’t want to drop any real money on it
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>>57857058
Heck off fag, it’s a relevant thread and not spam.
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Bump
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Based thread
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Baste thread
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>>57857018 (OP)
I stupidly sold my TNTE A1 clone upper for a steal because of the markup and I miss it. Looks like I played myself and will be buying another 20 with a fixed carry handle. Can't decide whether to do an A2 this time or A1
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>>57857018 (OP)
>a4 welcome 
eww
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>>57861815
>post ban with no birdcage...
poor rife

also be nice to the A4nons fixed carry handles are hard to find these days. Also theyre legitimately retro now inception of GWOT was legit 20 years ago at this point. 

To think that it would be the last conflict the A2 saw popular use in while also being shoulder to shoulder with the A4.
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>>57861027
Nice rifle A1non, I say go for an A1 since A2s are way harder to get and assemble these days since guntuber e-celebs hopped on the band wagon to make handles cool again. I still remember when people would buy them in bulk to cut off the handles and weld weaver or M1913 on. Such were the times in 2007 when making your rifle a train station was peak aesthetics.

Perhaps the new Cold War brewing in the background is giving people nostalgia for the first one as well. Only time will tell if this new hotness for carry handles is a fad or we're going to have to deal with insufferable normies forever :sob:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rriQhmJIefg&pp=ygULZ2xvYmFsIGNvbGQ%3D [Embed]
--- 57862001
found this in the trunk of a p71 in a ditch, how much is this pile of ancient garbage worth
--- 57862002
>>57861815
>bad lever
2010 called
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>>57862001
hold on to that upper anon boomers and fuds be selling that shit for almost a grand on gunbroker because of the current shortage, but honestly i'd just hold onto it and make a cool lightweight operator carbine with it like adding a light and whatnot. How are the feed ramps looking in that?
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>>57861981
Yeah I mean I can get either, I just don't know whether to try the A2 DOPE sights or stick with the easy A1. A1's length of pull is really cozy too. I do like the look of the thicker meme barrel of the A2 and the front furniture though
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>>57862055
keep your eye on Tony's Customs for A1's, some generous ARnon in the /arg/ thread gave his tips on trying to get new carry handles in 2011 + 12 AD. 

If you're comfortable with A1 manual of arms when it comes to sights and length of pull just stick with it, you could always build a hybrid C7 style rifle too with the A2's meme barrel & handguard
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>>57858453
unexpected but fits the definition. I want a Kel-Tec someday but why are P50s so expensive bros...
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>>57859720
>>57860764
Nice clones A4nons, how does it feel that the GWOT is technically over at this point. what do you think is going to be the soundtrack and general retrospective thoughts for gen alpha kids that inevitably grow up with their parents lecturing them about how hard it was living in a time when GIs and Taliban were duking it out in the desert for two decades?
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>>57861981
>flectarn(ish) tac gloves
W2c?
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>>57862148
I mean shit like Seether was big in the 00s. I still remember Out of My Way by Seether on Iraq urban combat compilations and stuff. Rise Against maybe. Shit like that.
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>>57862149
Most likely, also salsa? is that Ai? I never remember her last name lol
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>>57862002
its a competition rifle, the bad lever is basically need for boomer power
>>57861906
cuckstate plus competition gun
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>>57862212
My sympathies A2non, what state if you're willing to share, also what lower is that ive never seen it around
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>>57862212
forgot to add but what competitions do you run with that thing and are there any advantages that the carry handle brings over the flattops that are common? are you a marksman or speed-shooter?
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>>57862301
NJ and fulton armory 
>>57862311
>forgot to add but what competitions do you run with that thing
NRA high power 
> and are there any advantages that the carry handle brings over the flattops that are common?
you can reach under the carry handle and hit the bolt release easier because the single round mags people use you can't just slingshot the charging handle with, but the BAD lever solve that issue anyway. I think the only advantage is people might have to pin the carry handle on. Most guys use an LPVO though since you can have up to 4.5x optic 
> are you a marksman or speed-shooter?
marksman
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>>57862210
>remember her last name
I don't know her first name. Talk about the gloves, man.
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>>57862347
That's pretty neat anon, also that reach through under the carry handle truck for hitting the bolt release sounds pretty night I out to try that next time I'm out at the range for shits and giggles. Whats your best grouping like and any tips for improving marksmanship?
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>>57862374
forgive my coomer brain, neuron activation moment. 

Cant say much about the gloves, but why does flectarn look so good. The ones I use at the range are similar but have these like rubberized pads under the thumb. Dont know the brand though since its a no name and was also a gift
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>>57857678
how badly did sandy hook fuck the legislation over there in CT? Ive heard about it from some of my family on that coast but never seen anyone talk about it or its after affects
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>>57857018 (OP)
Any recommendations for peripherals to put on the A2 grips? I see they sell rail attachments that screw into vent holes and hear theyre good enough for a light or a laser if you dont need zero (if youre shooting passive it should be fine?) also the old Pec2's had those mounts that went under the guard and attached directly to the barrel. Anyone know what those are called and how to get a hold of them?
--- 57862772
I don't care what anyone says, MOE grips are the nicest ones I've ever had on an AR.
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>>57862772
what the ports on the side for?
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>>57862437
Flectarn gloves and matching flectarn Gladius are on my list. I wish Cold Steel would fill backorders on thier polypro training Gladius, prefect base for my flecktarn Gladius project.
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>>57862901
Presumably ventilation though they probably double as an attachment point.
I've never been one to put a whole bunch of stuff on my guns.
I like to keep them simple.
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>>57861981
Come to think of it, a flectarn kimono is indicated for full larp. Pretty sure a flectarn kilt will not do.
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>>57862968
Lmao what do they actually make those?
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>>57862944
Same here, I could never stand having all that shit on my rifle. The whole appeal of an AR was that it was lightweight and low recoil at the same time.
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>>57862698
>hear theyre good enough for a light or a laser
You really don't want an aiming device direct mounted to clamshells since they shift around, better to FSB hard mount a laser if you want to keep clamshells and don't have a PAQ-4c or PEQ-2a.
For non-zeroable accessories you can use the really thin stamped flange nuts like MOE rail sections come with or buy the specific kits to mount through the cooling holes or drill through the handguard. If you are mounting around the body, I recommend either notching what you are attaching for the ribs or grinding down the ribs where you are mounting the accessory.
>Anyone know what those are called
Just search for PEQ barrel mount, not many people list by the NSN or P/N (NSN: 5340-01-390-3812 P/N: A3186958) They used to be all over the place for a few bucks but they have climbed up into the tens of dollars area for the most part. Not unobtanium by far, but its a sign that they are drying up.

pictured:
FSB mounted C7 tri-rail with a JP offset to curl a VIR-II over LSO clamshells
PEQ-2a with the barrel mount through CAR skinny clamshells
SG PEQ-2a knock off on a KAC RASII free float
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>>57862981
>do they actually make those
You see what she's wearing with your eyes, son. You don't have to believe.
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>>57863026
Also, carry handle to stay on theme.
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>>57863064
goddamn this looks nice, I always preferred this look to the trainstation level rifles with all the magnifiers and extra weight on it, those always come off as range toys whereas this looks like something someone in the field would actually be working with. Though these days the pic rail vomit is everywhere in use with operators and special forces but theres something magical about taking an old rifle and running it with modern peripherals. It has the same appeal as say a sleeper PC
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>>57863064
also though the clamshells arent strong enough for zeros on lasers they have enough strength and rigidity for a foregrip? is this what the canadians were doing on their C7's in the late 90s and early 00s?
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>>57863026
are there any say, small IR lasers that could fit on a FSB trirail mount?
--- 57863174
luv me carry handles
luv me Colt 4x20s
luv me Aimpoint 5000s
luv me pregnant Anne Frank
'ate flat tops

Simple as

Railniggers cope and seethe
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>>57857058
Yeah, because we need more Ukraine threads up, you tell em, reddit!
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>>57863112
I like it, which is what matters but I get flak from both side of the aisle for "ruining" a older style rifle or not being modern enough.
>>57863122
They are. The canadians mounted picatinny rails to the clamshell and then a folding Cadex foregrip. Mine is a slightly modified MLOK grip direct mounted through the cooling holes.
>>57863134
The VIR-II on that rifle is an IR laser and it is pistol light sized. It just has a shroud on it to limit splash from it's IR illuminator and work better on a rifle. The JP offset is just for preference, you could mount it to the tri-rail or some other FSB mount rail without it.
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>>57863238
>VIR-II
thanks for the recs anon this is why I come here and not reddit or the other shitty AR forums, id just get told to get a flat top and a quad and its nice to still see people working with the older iterations of the rifle and run them with modern accoutrements
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>>57862995
>The whole appeal of an AR was that it was lightweight and low recoil at the same time.
That is almost my exact reason.
Light weight is the whole point of this weapon, and while it may sound like a fudd cliché, iron sights are great.
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>>57863269
yep, love me those A2 patterns with the adjustable elevation and windage, makes zeroing easier, and if the size of the front sight post's size bothers you enough you can just exchange for an A1 post. Also mounting optics on the carry handle is honestly a better alternative than the memeshit GBRS risers
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>>57862698
>attach rails to plastic.
No. Tried it, it sucked. Buy a pic rail that attaches to front sight.
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>>57857018 (OP)
Obligatory. Best red dot is amber.
--- 57863686
I just like em bros
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>>57862149
>>57862374
Everything's better with handles.
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>>57862552
big time, mega gay if you aren't mil or police
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>>57862901
They're MLOK slots.
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>>57863860
Sandy hook fucked it coast to coast for abt 2 yrs, Gabby Giffy was just a sidebar in comparison. Between the coasts it did get better. Buffalo/Uvalde was just a wrinkle.
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>>57863740
Thank you, anon.
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>>57863740
at last someone with the sauce
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>>57863621
why'd you cover your rear sight aperature with cheese?
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>>57863621
I always wondered how does that clip under the carry handle work to hold the mount to the handle. Is it a screw on? torque? tension?
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>>57863686
only thing I dont like is how the space under isnt big enough to full knuckle grip :( other than that theyre solid backup sights and a better alternative to a meme riser
--- 57864399
Counter-Strike Bushmaster
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>>57864285
Everything is better with cheese.
>>57864295
Lever screws and tightens, hits a detent every 180°. Sadly blocks grabby hotdog fingers.
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>>57864399
Sweet room divider, what's on the other side, sex dungeon?
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>>57857018 (OP)
Damnit RTI I want my silent slings, don't make me release the bonk
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>>57864399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ4NzNV7eo8 [Embed]
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Missing protec helmet in picture
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>>57864471
Dont we call it zimbabwe now?
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>>57864410
I wish, it’s a radiator cover
>>57864431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqB1uoDTdKM [Embed]
--- 57864520
I feel like I want four carry handles on my quadrail foregrip.
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>>57864476
Do we?
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>>57864528
The door is open, go outside. For once.
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>>57862347
>NJ
man the boss really was the only good thing to come out of that glorified turnpike huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufc7RYXQQF8 [Embed]
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>>57864543
That’s a computer screen. Doors closed for the weekend
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>>57862148
>soundtrack
Gorillaz, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
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>>57864579
this but unironically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXKdU_Nm-Kk [Embed]
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>>57857058
A Ukraine thread died for this.
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>>57864579
>Gorillaz

you didn't have to make me feel old today anon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLnkQAeMbIM [Embed]
--- 57864698
I have a carry handle, can I join the club?
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>>57864698
this nigga really carries clips
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>>57864625
Good.
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>>57864709
You don't?
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>>57864698
I see your carry handle and raise 3.
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>>57864698
1 admission for battle rifle into the thread. Also wtf is that furniture?? reminds me of the Israeli FALs but looks more ergonomic

also cool piece FALnon. Is there any tips for getting perhaps a kit for one of these how much do they run? or are they only sold as a unit?? Perhaps can build one in a cuck state??
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>>57864698
looks like a canadian L1A1 from the fact it can take stripper clips of .308? also neat rifle anon
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>>57864758
>getting perhaps a kit for one of these
I'll just be quite.
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>>57864758
That’s the original FAL player
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>>57864754
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>>57864802
why the mag polka dotted?
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>>57864787
Nice. I've been wondering how to use mine since I pulled it off..
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>>57864781
I want a fal so bad bros but fuck why are there only originals floating around. has really no one done repros or kits? building funs is much more enjoyable than just buying them whole :(
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>>57864758
That is my T48. US trials rifle that we WOULD have gotten had we not believed Springfield's "we can make the T44 (M14) on M1 Garand tooling" lies. 

Do NOT do what I did and try to piece one together, it took me about three years of effort to hunt down all the correct parts. If you want a FAL just get a prebuilt one from DSA. They're hit or miss but will happily be fixed by customer service if they don't function.
>>57864769
The Canadians did in fact get involved with H&R's T48's, which are the only American made military FALs in existence, but the Belgian T48 (which mine is modeled on) uses a clip guide that iirc predates the L1A1.
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>>57864827
Fashion points with the lolis on /cgl/.
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>>57857018 (OP)
Where the hell can you find an A1 or A2 upper (preferably with M4 ramps) that's actually in stock? TNTESales.com has some for pre-order but I don't want to wait until mid-May (best case scenario).
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>>57864860
holy shit how did you piece together a T48 are you insane, autistic or both?? also is it in original .280 innit or .308. Where'd you scour the parts to put that together and honestly piecing it together doesnt sound that bad if you have patience and honestly more rewarding. I'd assume the furniture would be the hardest to obtain aside from the action if its in .280
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>>57864860
>my T48
Describe the quest for the bayo to the class.
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>>57864891
I was seriously considering getting a TT A2 but some anon on here warned me calling it chinesium trash, so I withheld and then got like retardedly lucky because the store I had gotten my Delton parts kit for the stock and other tidbits remembered my autistic ass and called me saying they had gotten in an A2 completed upper on consignment for ~$500. So I busted my ass down there and swooped the shit and sure enough other mfs were eyeing it and one was close to buying when I showed up and scooped. 

Honestly it really is luck of the draw as to where you can get one but H&R is going to start pumping out A1s on original tooling, as for A2s were kinda shit out of luck but keep your eye on r/gundeals since anons will have a carry handle on there every once in a while
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>>57864933
>insane, autistic, or both??
Yes.

Chambering is not in .280 Brit because the US trials rifle was in .308. Most of the rifle is built on BGS parts that Apex had at the time. Upper receiver and barrel are made by DSA, with a custom reverse threading on the muzzle to accept the long style flash hider. Upper has cuts to accept the indexing tabs on the clip guide dust cover. Lower is Imbel cut for a type A stock. Furniture is all from a gentleman who goes by Flypaper on FALfiles, including the hardware for the folding winter trigger guard. English walnut, soaked in half a dozen coats of pure tung oil over the course of just over two months, finished with a wax rub (linseed oil degrades in UV like sunlight).
>>57864979
Mashing F5 on GunBroker for about three years until I found one for sub-$500 and made a horrible financial decision for one pointy boi. Came with a musty old sheath, pommel was marked "S.A.P." which is South African Police.
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>>57864786
you plan of saving some of the ammo for the rest of us with that mag anon?
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>>57864422
goddamn with the current handle shortage all the shit in that picture is about the cost of my tuition lol

would you care to do a family shot for us less fortunate?
--- 57865149
Is there even an option for a carry handle that isn't removable anymore?
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>>57865075
>marked "S.A.P."
Still the best part, to me.
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>>57865149
a lot of the supply dried up recently because of a perfect storm of events

A lot of the older manufacturing houses have either gone bust or bought out and undergoing production line upscaling so that has basically made the supply of handles zero atm

Next, the zoomer obsession with the 1970's -80's has finally reached gun circles and they started to eat up into the already limited supply and it isnt helped by the fact that talking heads on social media are hyping up carry handles as "remember this? its cool now" and now everyone and their mom wants a handle

Lastly, the advent of retarded sight risers amongst the tactical-tards has started to make people realize that Stoner's original design relative to height over bore was right all along and are using carry handles as a less retarded looking alternative to having a skyscraper on your rifle for a sight

overall its a pretty shitty situation as now us enthusiasts are going to have to contend with normies (1/2)
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>>57865224
(22) wanting older style uppers because their favourite friend simulator figure told them it was cool to have them now after 10+ years of tacti-shit rail spam on guns during the GWOT years. 

Leave it to misplaced zoomer nostalgia, lower supply due to industry changes, and e-celebs to make participating in my hobby cancer aids.

ok blog post over
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>>57865143
Since I've fixed the brakes on my rx-7 I'll probably go sight this this thing in tomorrow, build is a nds upper with a Brownells 1/12 12.7 barrell and a mock moderator bringing me to length,some sort of gooseneck mount and a c-more, a surefire 6px front sight mounted flashlight, an ace limited vinyl acetate buttstock and an unbranded ar vintage lower (really recommend it because the font is very nice), the a2 is a genuine colt marked upper that I got along with the big hole sp1 upper for 150$ barrel is a Wilson arms stainless govt profile 1/7. The m16a1 is your usual nds with a Brownells 1/12 chrome lined, usgi furniture and sling, and unfortunately an anderson lower. I got lucky with that ebay buy
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>>57865402
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>>57864891
TNTE was a decent upper, but I ordered during covid and my upper took about 5 months longer than they said it would to arrive. I was pissed but didnt have much going on so I let it ride. Was a good upper, wish I hadnt sold the damn thing.
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>>57862034
They look unused, barely fired. The trigger is definitely not mil-spec, feels like a racegun one. A sleeper-build..
--- 57867733
I just think they're neat.
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>>57863621
I have a detachable carry handle and still want to get a gooseneck, just because I mostly shoot with irons and don't want to rezero them every time
I use optics a lot less so zeroing them doesn't bother me as much
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>>57863112
Talk like a fag
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Bump
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>>57867733
Nice anon
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>>57869136
Maybe posting something abt a carry handle would be a better bump?
--- 57869263
I just love 20 inch with carry handle AR. So classic, even if it's impractical compared to a 16 incher with a red dot. PSA needs to get the fuck going and make some more uppers. 

Also want to get an AR10 before some bullshit ban happens.

I built a cheap m16a4ish DMR most would shit on but I just love this platform.
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>>57865004
Yeah. That's the problem with looking for A2s, just have to get lucky at a price you can afford. It's a pain. Happy to hear about H&R but like you said, kinda screws those of us that want an A2. That was my first issue rifle and I still remember how smooth it shot. M4 is handier but not as much a pleasure to shoot.
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Hey guys can I join?
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>>57865237
All true. Worst part is all the zoomers will never use the iron sights and instead just mount an ARMS carry handle adapter and put a red dot on it.
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>>57865550
That's part of the reason that I'm not doing their pre-order. I don't want to pay now and wait for half a year or get a surprise billing at some point (I don't know if they bill when you order or when they ship).
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>>57869704
Iirc they billed me at order. Tbh it wasnt their fault entirely. I emailed them and asked what the deal was and they said an order of barrels they had expected to get hadnt arrived because of the massive gun buying spree the nation went on in 2020-2021. So they were waiting on that. Inconvieniant, but understandable imo. Was a solid, good upper. I miss it
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>>57862148
It’s weird for me dude, I didn’t get an M4 until several years in the service and things changed so fast, we lost some killer aesthetic.
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>>57862177
I MeAn
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I want a 20” pencil barrel with a C7 upper so bad but they’re either more than I want to spend or not for sale anywhere
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>>57870026
Sick picture.
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>>57870026
I have brain damage so I really want to get a C7 upper that's had the forward assist shaved smooth after forging
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>>57862148
Anything that plays on contemporary rock radio. The kind of shit that says this

> You're listening to KBRO radio where we play the latest hits from the artist you love. Tube in today for our 100 days of summer cash giveaway. Tickets are on sale for 5 finger death punch in some red state county far somewhere. Thanks for listening to KBRO radio, where we play nothing but rock. Here's some buckcherry with crazy bitch for all you ladies out there. 

>Garbage music intensifies.
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>>57869687
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Bump
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>>57858349
>Heck off
I'm fucking sorry, I've been away for a minute, but when in the FLYING. FUCK. did we start with plebbitfag speak?
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>>57862092
Thanks for the credit, here's a (you)
>I want that stock but I don't want Airshit or to pay $700

Just finished a Colt 733 clone in 300 blackout with a fake dissy setup. It's got an adjustable low profile gas block under the handguard. 
C'mon ATF, gibs me my tax stamps, three weeks and my lower isn't even out of research yet.
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>>57864399
nice suresneed
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>>57869742
Fair enough. Will have to consider them. May even cave and get an A1 as they have complete A1 uppers in stock.
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Bump