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--- 136646119
Just saw the movie and really liked it. Is the show any good?
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>>136646119 (OP)
I suppose. it's mostly harmless fun.
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>>136646119 (OP)
>Is the show any good
I like it
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Flanderisation. Annoying perpetual status quo. Characters do 180 switches based on the episode. It's one of those shows where I've watched most of it (I can't remember when I stopped) and I feel like any more episodes will be just the same.
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>>136646223
should've ended by season 5-8, but having the movie work as an official finale was their last chance to go out with dignity and they blew it
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>>136646291
By not showing Louise without hat is when I realize what massive frauds they are.
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>>136646119 (OP)
Anything pre-season 10 is more or less solid.
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Bob's just got nominated for a Peabody.
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Seasons 1 to about 5 are really fun because they're a bit unhinged and goofy, seasons 6-7 are still good but the show very obviously shifts. 8+ really aren't worth watching there's no good jokes because the show is too focused on being wholesome and feel good to the point of not being funny.
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>>136647345
Good for them.
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>>136646291
I honestly cannot remember when I finished watching it. But it is doing what zombie shows do. Should have ended ages ago but they keep making money and thus keep going. Loads of shows do this. Some jump the shark multiple times (Family Guy has done this with adding that other kid character for Stewie, which wasn't needed at all). American Dad (something I thought was immune to it) did it with Rogu and making it more Rick and Morty (I dislike this term but it is clear they were told to when they sold it). Then you got shows like Central Park and The Great North or w/e the show is called where you can see the exact same problems with Bob's Burgers happening and you don't want to watch any more to avoid that issue.

I miss shows like Moon Beam City and then realise 'maybe it was best it didn't go on any further'.
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>>136646119 (OP)
It's a charming show with funny characters, but it eventually wore out its welcome to the point where no one really watched the movie in theaters. These days, I mostly watch Bob's Burgers because I've been with it since Day 1 and because I think the mom is hot.
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>>136647442
what they should've done is age these characters and allow for bigger wins like Bob's Burgers becoming more successful and more popular.
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>>136647442
The Gene and Courtney show is literally bobs burgers' trajectory truncated
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>>136647585
I've not seen the film because I knew they wouldn't use it to end the show on a high. I had hoped the film would have ended with Bob getting a big break and getting the big fancy restaurant he wanted and all that money. You could even have done a 'feel good' thing where he then sells the restaurant for big money and goes back to his restaurant by the pier and just serves the community... but has no money issues now, so he can just enjoy his family and cooking for his community. Or he could have put the restaurant under a manager and maybe hired a younger version of himself type character to run it and be like 'i'm giving you the chance I never got as a young adult' and then go back to Bob's Burgers, with the money coming in from the big fancy place.

That way it could end with Bob still being 'Bob' but the goal of Bob not worrying about money is sorted. It's just like Family Guy and The Simpsons. They're perpetually poor so you can make jokes/do a plot around it. Same with Bob's Burgers. Okay that's fine, but you could have ENDED it with Bob getting what he wanted and then realising nah he didn't want it after all BUT his money troubles are sorted and he can just care for his family.

The issue with ageing the characters is that you then basically just kinda switch who is who. Tina becomes an older teen, Gene becomes Tina and Louise becomes a smarter Gene (unless the episode demands Louise is FUCKING RETARDED). Same issue as Simpsons. They have birthdays but never get older. Perpetually 8, 10, 40 and 42 or w/e.
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>>136647585
Something I've noticed is how season 1-3 make pop culture that you could reasonably expect kids ranging from 9 to 13 make which feels missing now.
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They should've ended the show with the episode where Bob gets stuck on the toilet.
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>>136648155
Idk why people think of this episode as a finale it doesn't feel very definitive
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It's funny, but once you reach the 2 part warf episode that's when it peaks.
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>>136648198
Because it was the 100th episode and ended with the entire cast of characters on screen.
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>>136648222
Mommy loved me more than little bruh-ther
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>>136648237
Plus the song bob and the landlord sing, man it's such a great 2 part episode.
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>>136646119 (OP)
the short promotion video is great aswell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDBclCLhU-I [Embed]
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>>136646119 (OP)
>Is the show any good?
Not really. It's a Teen Titans Go situation where the movie is by far the best thing to come out of the franchise and several magnitudes better than the originating series. You're better off ignoring the rest
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>>136648222
It was so nice that they did it twice and called that the movie.
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>>136646119 (OP)
The kids start to become the main characters and the show just stops being an adult comedy and becomes more of a slightly edgy kids show.
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>>136649331
>more of a slightly edgy kids show.
And it's not even that most edgier kid show around either.
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>>136649295
No you should definitely check out season 1,3,5,4,2, in that order then ddcided for yourseld if you want to continue.
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>>136647741
>Gene becomes Tina 
You mean like Gina?
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there should be more art and stories revolving around a hung young man fucking the shit out of Linda
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>>136646119 (OP)
Seasons 2-5ish are much funnier and more entertaining than the movie
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>>136649947
I want to make her a lindependent woman.
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>>136649968
Why not season 1?
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>>136647545
That's because it's suffering from a creator-enforced lack of drama. You can't have drama when your creator is from that uber-puritan "ban all sex from movies and animation" types
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>>136646119 (OP)
If you liked the movie there's nothing you would dislike about the show. It's more or less an extended episode.
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>>136650872
And remember, the original pitch was about cannibalism and his series got famous for being so frank about Tina's sexuality. The aboutface where it's so santized even with all the peepee and poopoo jokes.
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>>136651138
He's a hypocrite just like everyone else in Hollywood and I hope this writers strike shatters his perfect asexual dollhouse
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>>136651173
Give me a gene's wet dream episode.
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>>136650786
It’s good once you’re used to it but the tone is off and the animation is crappier
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>>136651283
The off tone is what I love the most, awkward comedy at it's best.
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>>136652468
The rawest shit.
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>>136649968
>skipping season 1
Maximum pleb.
There's a certain, for lack of a better word, raunchiness to the comedy of the earlier seasons that later seasons just can't compete with. From "you're the worst kind of autistic" in the opening episode to dabbing on diaper fetishists, there's little that compares to early Bob.
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>>136652945
i wouldn’t advise skipping it entirely (you should definitely watch it if you’re interested in being a fan, and you will probably like and go back go those episodes once you’re familiar with the show) it’s just pretty unrepresentative of the thing as a whole so it makes for an odd introduction
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>>136653013
Personally, I've never really understood the concept of watching something out of order. Who gives a shit if a beloved show had a rocky start, it just helps you appreciate the later developments that much more. Might as well start at the beginning and "let it cook" as the zoomers say.
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>>136653259
it’s a sitcom, it has SOME character development but very little continuity. I don’t think you gain much at all on a first watch from seeing it in order vs just seeing random reruns on TV
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>>136652945
With lines like this you can see how the kids quickly stole the show.
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>Bob wants something
>Family ruins it
>Lesson is always just deal with it and let emotional maniacs run your life
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>>136653946
That's actually quite uncomfy when you think about it.
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>>136653259
I'm of the same mind. For most cartoons, the early season(s) may not represent the writing style or characterization of the cast overall, but they still function as the intended first impression for each character along with the general premise and format. You lose some context (and appreciation for the show as a whole) by skipping past the first season. 

Simply knowing that "it gets better" should be enough when starting a show. That "odd introduction" is part of the experience.
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>>136649947
I concur!
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>>136649947
>>136654794
I know I shouldn't want to cuck Bob...but I do. I want to be a customer at Bob's Burger just so I can flirt with Lin during her shift. It'd start innocent enough till I eventually become a regular she like to see because I'd compliment her and can make her titter like a schoolgirl as my flirtations get heavier and heavier with innuendos till one day I give her milfy ass a pinch as she clears my table and make her do that little linda moan she likes to give. After that I'd get more handsy, always giving her butt a slap or a squeeze when she walks by my booth. Eventually I would wait till there's a lull in the restuarant where no one is there, not even Bob because he's doing some shennigans and offer her a chance to earn a big fat "tip" by going underneath the table and sucking me off as I eat a burger she made for me and beer she got just for me.
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>>136656576
A handy in the artsy bathroom, a titfuck behind the counter, rawdogging her in the upstairs bedroom...sorry bob but I got to do it.
--- 136656737
The last couple episodes have been more a retutn to form like Tina embarrassing herself and a suprising April's fool fools episode where Bob doesn't just sit around and mope and do nothing. 
In fact the show got pretty daring by giving him such an impressive win by getting one over Mr.Fischoeder.
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>>136646119 (OP)
Absolutely. It's really fun and entertaining, you should no doubt give it a try. It's also extremely comfy to watch when laying on the bed or couch at nights, even more so when it's on rainy nights.
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>>136656576
Does Bob's burgers have the ability to sell alcohol?
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>>136657108
When they're selling Teddy's homebrew beer Hugo acknowledges that Bob has a liquor license.
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>>136657108
Beer is on the menu.
>$4 for a beer
That seems a little overpriced though for my taste. 
>>136657198
I know it's a tv show, I know it's being written who really have no interest in Bob actually running his restaurant and that they look to actively sabotage any chance of success.
But dear god Bob, you found a beer that goes great with your burgers which got you incredible business but one setback and you drop it entirely?
WORK YOU LAZY SWARTHY FUCK. YOU HAVE TO WORK ON YOUR RESTAURANT.
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Everytime Gene is on screen, the show is unwatchable
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>>136657268
It's also kinda nuts to think that Bob is saying his burgers are hard to pair with beer? Like can you imagine being a burger chef and not seeing a problem with the fact that your burgers don't pair well with beer? It'd be a fucking travesty if that was me.
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>>136657275
Og if only the writers knew how to play to eugene miriam's strength.
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>>136657268
I am at this point where I just want Bob to give up the restaurant and just become a short order cook because the struggle has worn out its welcome. It's 2023, Bob's gourmet burgers are the standard in restuarant around the entire goddamn country so Bob could do entirely what he wants to do-make burgers-and not have to stress about running a restaurant which he isn't actually interested in.
But it'll never happen like that and it sucks.
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The "we're failing to stay afloat despite the fact we should be a huge success by the show's own admission" angle wore out its welcome.
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>>136657706
They have a very sentimental idea of what it's like to be poor. For them it's not about going hungry or stressed out that you can end up homeless but more about how poors are better people because they're more "authentic".
It feels patronizing, like a rich guy telling me how I should be happy I'm not rich because money only complicates things...
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>>136657706
>>136657837
The fact there's been no storyline where Bob does find success and he struggles with whether he lets it change him or not seems like a no brainer considering that outlook.
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>>136658132
I think they can avoid doing that because it's hard to walk the success back to the status quo for the next episode.
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Good lord did you guys peep AAANinja's latest Louise pic with Millie? Talk about two perfectly toasted buns.
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>>136658132
There's literally a mandate in the writer's room to not have any big wins for Bob like his restaurant becoming popular and successful.
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>>136646119 (OP)
One cannot observe bob's burgers and bob's burgers quality at the same time. Bob's burgers quality is a paradox in that it can exist in two spaces in the same rating spectrum at the same time
If one is to watch one episode of Bob burgers one would be mildly entertained however the show itself creates a sense of fatigue because the show isn't good nor entertaining
Imagine a cat in a box, the box contains a vial of poison but the box is closed so there is no way to know if the vial broke and the cat is dead and one must assume that the cat is both alive and dead until the box is opened
While watching bob's burgers one must assume that bob's burgers is both good and bad
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What's your favorite middling episode of Bob's Burgers /co/?
Not the best or the worst but the one that's just alright?
Mine's Dawn of The Peck.
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>>136659415
Any one of the episodes that's just 3 mini episode stories
--- 136659765
The early seasons were great. Some of the gross out humor was a bit too much. Some of the jokes they did just can't be done anymore , i.e (bob doing coke with literal troons). 
The show did become very "progressive". The humor is safe and louise got severely nerfed. 

It was a natural progression. Decent show, but havent seen central park or great north.
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>>136659454
I like the Gayle Tales and the one where they had toncheer Teddy up, both of Tina's stories in those were my favorites.
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>>136658672
I'm in love with the fanon that Louise is a little bubble butt queen. It's a great visual to imagine catching sight of it subtly bouncing and flexing under that green smock.
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>>136659415
Turkey in a Can
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>>136647545
>>136650772
>>136656576
>you imagine something for so long and then, like, what you thought was pink is brown and like what you thought was symmetrical is not… it’s just unsettling.
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>>136661450
>I mean don't get me wrong Lin, I still blew massive ropes to it.
>Teddy god my Kids are here
>oh sorry kids, that was just some locker room talk between me and your dad
>wait I don't get it, what does ropes have to do with locker rooms?
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>>136661252
That's a pretty decent family episode, good choice.
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>>136652468
>>136652568
That brain cancer fanfic where she actually has a seizure hits harder if you read it directly after season 1. Also, why the fuck do people write so much "Louise gets cancer" fanfics?
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>>136646119 (OP)
The show's good, but Bob becomes less of a protagonist the longer it goes. That's why the film felt like a return to form for many longtime fans.
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>>136647545
>FRESH HOT BURGAHS, SEXY BURGAHS 
I must've watched that trailer a thousand times. Took almost five fucking years for us to see any movie footage after it was first announced.
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>>136662955
Was she naked under the burger suit or did she actually remember to wear underwear?
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>>136647442
>Then you got shows like Central Park
man, what a fucking meteoric disaster, they went from great but not perfect to the most lukewarm shit i've ever watched.
>period episode AND racism episode in a single season while the song quality, plot and characterization took a nosedive
blech
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>>136662929
Bob felt like a secondary character in the film until the very end where they almost die
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>>136662690
>why the fuck do people write so much "Louise gets cancer" fanfics?
It's the hat.
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>>136663204
>period episode AND racism episode in a single season 
Different seasons, but yeah the song quality did get less consistent the longer the show went on. A LOT of half-assing that you wouldn't find in other musical cartoons. I thought the period episode was kinda cute. Racism episode had potential, but that ending was abysmal. Central Park failed Cole at every step of the way. I don't know which is worse: being as boring as Cole or as annoying as Gene?
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>>136662690
>>136664006
It's also because the show has heavily insinuated that Bob's mom died from cancer.
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>>136664056
>A LOT of half-assing that you wouldn't find in other musical cartoons
Quarter cheeking.
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>>136664129
Incredible. An actually funny butt joke. The writers could learn a thing or two from you.
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>>136664239
I actually stole that from Bob's Burgers.
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>>136664572
THIEF!
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>>136664104
So it skipped a generation? Might make an actually good episode if they could handle the seriousness of childhood cancer scare and humour surrounding the situation. Even if she gets a false positive it'd be good.
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>>136664828
>Might make an actually good episode if they could handle the seriousness of childhood cancer scare and humour surrounding the situation
Maybe but It would've been iffy even with Peak Bob.
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>obnoxious song that isn't very good or interesting 
>hackneyed lesson that they hammer in the entire episode yet the monologue at the end still feels unearned
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>>136664056
>>136665235
It is weird how obsessed Bouchard got about his stuff being shitty anti-musicals.
Like it was cute when The Belchers were strutting to Mort's going "weekend at Mort's we're gonna have a weeked at Mort's" and some background paraody music like bad girls don't pay for lip balm but trying to pass it off as an unpolished amateurish musical feels like an insult to the viewers.
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>>136664056

I always found it funny that she is mixed, but twitter decided only a black VA can voice her. Even Loren doubled down on his decision to keep the original white VA, but he eventually bent the knee to the woke mob.
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>>136665682
At least the movie’s songs were hittin
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>>136665805
Then he did the same to my sweet sweet Harley and gave her a voice actor who completely goes against the giddy optimistic chatterbox vibe Harley has.
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>>136646119 (OP)
Why was the movie snubbed by every major awards organization? Not even an Annie nom for production design or something.
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>>136665809
David Wain you sexy beast you.
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>>136646119 (OP)
The movie really just feels like a longform episode of the show. Take a bob's burgers episode, add an extra 10 minutes for every plot beat for jokes and better animation and you've got the movie. So if you enjoyed the film I think you'll have a good time with the episodes.
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>>136665682
It made sense when it was just the characters singing in earnest the same way someone IRL would while doing something. Like most other things it misunderstood its own appeal and wore out its welcome.
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>>136656737
April Fool's episode was SO GOOD. It had all the elements I've been wanting to see more of in the show: Bob playing an active role, Fischoeders messing around, actually using the established setting to tell a story that's mundane yet exciting. I don't know where the writers look to for feedback on new episodes these days, but I hope fans have expressed similar sentiments. 

Also I thought I was the only one who liked the Tina stalker episode. It was sweet. The writers seem to have trouble coming up with new ideas for her, so that one impressed me.
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>>136666048
I thought the Tina stalker one was like 4/10 but I loved the April fools episode.
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>>136647545
she deserves to get railed by a big cock
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>>136656576
>>136656644
you're so real for this
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>>136666048
>>136666083
April Fool's ep was so satisfying that I pretty much blanked out for the Crows one that aired right after. I hardly remember a thing from that episode.
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>>136658884
The bob burger paradox
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>>136666992
>implying Bob isn't thick as a beer can
Is it long? No. Can it spread Linda like mayonnaise on a bin? Yes.
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>>136667142
The Crow episode is just straight up nothing. There's nothing glaringly wrong with it but it's just fucking flat and uninteresting.
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>>136666048
Yeah right? If bob's burgers can still do episodes like that then just do that.
Just fucking do it, recapture the kid audience who grew out of Bob's Burgers.
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>>136664104
I hate how likely it is that Loren will actually adapt the Louise dying idea and genuinely thinks we want to see that
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>>136667635
Man love his sad louise episodes.
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>>136658733
He wants to kill off Louise and make Bob homeless?
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>>136667664
He wants her dead and I love how oblivious to what viewers really want because it just means it will be easier for them to cancel him in the future
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>>136646119 (OP)
I sort of fell out of it. It just got so boring. Episodes are absolutely conflict free times and everything is just so banal and safe. It's a show made to fill air with noise.
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>>136658733
I have to wonder if the only reason is due to Bob being white
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>>136646119 (OP)
Good early start, gets pretty weak. Actually last season was one of my favorites. I can't say is returning to form because the formula is really different from the original but you have several really good episodes like the april fools one, the balls deep in the beach or the christmas one, the one were bob goes visit his dead mum. I saw no one talking about it but honestly, last season was really great, lots of memorable episodes. My problem with modern bobs burger is how a lot of the episodes are kinda forgettable by how mundane they are, so much their best stuff is in the pilot. But the movie and last season had some great stuff in it. 

You can watch it, probably until season 4 or 5. After that it kinda slows down a lot but you can come back the later season and see if you like it.
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>>136664104
Stuff like this and the episode about Bob's Dad's tree story really make me especially aware of the biggest problem with the show. The show is afraid of emotional nuance. Or of emotions in general. They occasionally might hint at some layer or moment of pathos but then they have to undercut it with poop jokes or gene running his mouth about literally anything. Remember when the Simpsons was good? And you'd get episodes like pic related? Bob needed stuff like this. The episode can still be mostly jokes, I'm not asking it to turn into a drama but it's just impossible to care about the characters on a human level. Why not make the episode about Bob trying to find out the tree story and getting his dad to open up? Instead we get an anthology of bad parodies and a forced moment of saccharine exposition. Why can't the movie be about the kids wanting to find out about their grandmother but maybe it's hard for bob? Instead we get the same. A repeat of the Warf needs to be saved bullshit with forced faux pathos. Characters will sniffle and pout but they will never emote.
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>>136647345
who the fuck is queer in bobs burgers
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>>136668007
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>>136668154
They honestly deserve an award for making a coming out episode and not beating you over the head with it. And in 2022 no less. They also didn't pretend him doing that in that old episode was totally foreshadowing it. If people see it that way then they do, but they didn't do some retroactive commentary. Bob's Burgers better win the Peabody.
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>>136667818
>The Belchers
>being white
I know Bob has said flatout that he doesn't have Mediterranean blood in him but I mean c'mon, just look at him.
>but Belcher is a French-Canadian name:(
Sure, Armenian-French-Canadian.
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>>136668187
Gene came out?
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>>136668007
Bob himself. 
And you just know Louise is the type of girl to eat pussy and getting her pussy eaten while all the way claiming to be straight as an arrow when she gets to High School.
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>>136668007
Nat the limo driver.
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>>136668201
I wanna fondle Linda’s water balloons
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>>136668201
It's Belcher, not Belkarian
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>>136668187
>>136668238

No, Gene did no "come out". It was barely even drag. Troons like to disingenuously lump in the cartoonish behavior of someone dressing like a woman for the lulz, and ridiculousness, and deciding that the cartoonish behavior is some fundamental property of their identity. 
Bugs bunny dressed in drag to trick his enemies (and because it was funny for kids to see a man in a dress), not because he wanted to be a woman.
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This show must have like 300 episodes by now and I can't scarcely remember maybe 20
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>>136668888
There's worse ratios out there.
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>>136668816
how often do you claim you're a girl for the lulz anon? 
Because after like the 5th time I'd begin to suspect you're trying to confess to something...
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>>136667896
>forced faux pathos 
I KNOW you’re not talking about the same movie. That final act under the pier? The timelapse Bob spent staring down at the sinkhole? Come on, man…
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>>136669056
I don't think they ever put any real long term thought into Gene period. Because if he did then he would have FAR WORSE issues then gender identity. The Oedipus angle alone....
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>>136669217
Gene It On might've been the last good Gene/Linda episode. Their rapport since then just hasn't been the same.
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>>136668959
It is funny because Gene really is just the third wheel to the belcher kid gang because Tina is the horny kid and Louise is the smartmouth Kid and Gene could be the entertainer but the show doesn't want him to get good at his craft so he just became the loud kid.
Of course this had the unintended effect of toning Louise down because you can't have two loud kids.
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>>136669352
Have you ever heard just what Eugene Miriam went through behind the scenes for the past couple years? After hearing it I don't blame him for being off.
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>>136669197
If I were a millionaire swimming in disposable income, I'd commission architects and construction companies to build life-size versions of my favorite cartoon locations, starting with the Belchers' apartment. The place feels like a second home to me now
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>>136669371
The problem is they want Gene to be gifted but also want him to be the lazy fart kid so it doesn't really blend.
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>>136669371
>>136669478
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>>136669478
Fucking that itty bitty ditty episode. 
>I love music but I also refuse to practice and get better at it. 
Like I know outsider music is a thing but it feels pretentious to claim Gene as an outsider musician.
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>>136669699
Watch that episode and the local theatre one back-to-back if you really wanna get pissed off. How do the writers not realize they've butchered Gene's characterization? He adds nothing to the show at this point.
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>>136669197
The whole Louise arc was ridiculously faux pathos especially because I feel they chickened out and didn't actually address what Louise was singing in the beginning of the movie.
>I'm not hiding what I feel/about somethings on my mind/and if they're holding me behind/keeping me feeling small/even though they make me tall
Those lyrics are not about bravery, those lyrics are about a young girl realizng she's outgrowing her secruity blanket.
The entire emotional arc of Louise trying to prove she's not a baby by being brave in the face of physical danger is bullshit because that's not why Chloe Barbash called her a baby on the playground.
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>>136647442
They've done everything at this point. All we need left is a console game and an artbook. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiO_CXplRbE [Embed]
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>>136670189
In fact it's not just Louise's emotional arc got fucked by refusing to break the status quo but all the Belchers as Bob still has the albatross around his neck that is his restaurant that keeps his head barely above water and gives him nothing but anxiety but also Tina and Gene's plot arc is just a full circle because what is Tina singing about in the intro song? Her getting ready to take things to the next level with Jimmy Jr, for the nth time of the series which should've culminated in her realizing that actually the Real JayJu can never measure up to her fantasy version ot him and that maybe it's time to stop crushing on a guy who has never really liked her that much in the first place.
Oh and Gene actively vocalizing his desire to be a legitimate while also plagued by his self-doubt that maybe random loud noise barely strung together isn't proof of innate musical genius but talent that needs to be cultivated.
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>>136670189
>>136670399
And of course we can't forget the subtextual reading of Louise's part of "Sunny side up summer"
>Hope they don't hear me talking about them/don't know what I am without them
Because just maybe it's not about the Ears?
Maybe it's actually about Gene and Tina? You think about that playground scene and what it actually shows.
>Louise hanging out with Gene and Tina
>some girls of Louise's own age ask her to come over and play with them
>she blows them off
>Chloe Friggin' Barbash then just spit straight facts and call Louise exactly what is: Baby
Because she is a baby; Baby Belcher that is and we see it how Gene and Tina try to console their BABY sister.
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>>136668201
They're "swarthy". I always just imagined they were italians
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>>136670789
Sidenote here but I love even Rudy is like "pretty mod response Louise.
Anyway if this Movie truly wanted Pathos, and can I just say real quick that I do like the movie, but if it really wanted Pathos then it would've let all The Belchers, barring Linda because she didn't have a plot, to grow up.
Let Bob give up the restaurant.
Let Tina realize there's other fish in the sea.
Let Gene realize he needs practice before becoming a rock star.
And let Louise take off the hat and play with girls her own age.
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>>136670825
Linda is at least, Bob's ethnicity will just be a fuzzy little mystery.
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>>136647442
>Moon Beam City
Now I'm sad again that it only lasted one season. I wouldn't want it to be another zombie show but that aesthetic was too good to be stuck to one season.
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>>136670825
Linda is.
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>>136671010
Nice
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>>136671094
Maybe going zombie mode is worth the risk after all. I'll take ten more seasons please
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>>136669785
Well it's good thing that gay theater director's entire cast got sick on opening day making him desperate to put anything out on stage or else y'know, Linda and Gene might've learned something.
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The thing with the restaurant is so weird because it's like, they won't let Bob actually be successful, but they also consistently affirm that Bob should by every metric be successful. Either let him win or let him give up on the restaurant. It's not interesting watching acts of God or Bob's own shitty family undermine him at every turn.
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>>136671178
It is funny how season 10 started and Bam! We got Linda in a bikini waggling her ass.
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>>136671274
Is this the one with losing the Wedding ring?
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>>136671274
I'd use her cheeks to jerk my fat cock and shoot rope after rope all over her ass
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>>136670189
Wtf you’re so right. I guess you just can’t give up the mascot character’s iconic bunny ears. It really bugs me that Venture Bros and Steven Universe are the only long-running cartoons with the balls to change up their characters’ designs. The day companies stop viewing animated series strictly as vehicles for [consistent] merchandising is the day we finally progress. Let SOMETHING about Bob’s Burgers change for good.
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>>136662690
Because she doesn't get what's coming to her enough in the show.
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>>136647442
It really hit me how stuck in a rut these shows get with the status quo while watching The Great North a few weeks ago. The whole episode seemed to be leading up to Beef and Alyson actually dating and then the moral of the episode is that Beef is still too fucked up from his divorce to date anyone. At this point all of them are best watched as background noise
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>>136671306
Infuriatingly yes.
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>>136671520
That episode felt like it came out years ago already
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>>136671363
It took years of back-and-forth fighting behind the scenes, but Cartoon Network eventually let Finn keep the robot arm. His different swords along with Marcy and PB’s wardrobes were appreciated tho
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>>136671363
>Louise you're more then your ears
>but also no you're not so when you're on camera you keep those ears on
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>>136671535
Well it's been three years so you're not wrong.
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>>136671363
It's extra silly because the Japanese discovered that more outfits and designs offer you more merch opportunities not less, like 35 years ago.
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>>136671363
>The day companies stop viewing animated series strictly as vehicles for [consistent] merchandising is the day we finally progress.
I think it's more about the cost of animating different things vs. having your Korean sweat shop workers have to draw just one design over and over. Though, yes, there is a recognizability factor at play.
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>>136671363
I always felt like there's a dissonance to Bob's Burgers when it comes to the "moral of the story" approach. 
Like slumber party is don't judge a book by its cover because that boring book might just be your best friend...except for those other books you intentionally drove off, there's nothing more to them but the labels you already applied to them.
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>>136669197
I explicitly mean those moments.
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>>136671430
>>136671363
every time there's a new animated sitcom that's successful there's a part of me that hopes it will be the one to finally have characters age and grow in real time. Instead now we got more Christmas episodes than the characters should even be alive. Nothing happens and the characters are all just stock catch phrases. I'm not even asking for huge developments but just anything to happen.
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>>136670789
>Louise reading
That's weird.
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>>136670189
I feel like, in general, the show is very bad at defining it's secondary and especially tertiary characters. Like most of Tina's supporting cast is fine, Rudy is good but Chloe appears so infrequently it feels weird that Louise would ever even so much acknowledge her let alone care. 
>>136672936
Ditto for characters like Jessica. They don't show up for like 3 seasons and all of sudden they're a central plot element and I forget who they even are.
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>>136651247
>gene's wet dream
Would it just be a bunch of fart noises until he busts?
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I've never seen a more embarrassing female writer self-insert than Nat before. Very impressive, makes the Indian girl and D&D GM seem not so bad.
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>>136657077
I love the playful, flirty energy Tina has in this picture
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>>136675817
It is a deep cut to have Chloe Friggin Barbash be the impetus to the plot because no casual viewer would ever recognize her, Hell I don't even think seasoned viewers would remember her because she is just an outline of a mean girl where everything is inferred. We know she's the mean girl not necessarily how she acts but how she is presented.
It's actually a pretty damn good performance from Stephanie Beatriz, she pulls out all the tricks to communicate full what the writing is gesticulating.
She even gives her a subtle hiss which is great because she goes "louisse".
But it was nuts to see her in the movie poster like she's supposed to be somebody you know.
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>>136676955
Was Daryl even in the movie?
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>>136677037
He was, briefly. Sounded kinda off though
almost as if Aziz was incredibly rusty at performing...
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>>136676955
Funnily enough I'm kinda of a fan of Chloe though mainly because in the first episode she appears, she's actually indirectly makes a pretty good point about how Rudy isn't entitled to a kiss just because he gave her flower and read more into her buttering him up for answers.
It's a shockingly strong gasp of personal consent from a 4th grader, she doesn't want to kiss Rudy so she doesn't have to. Makes me think she has a strong loving mother who wanted her daughter to have a strong sense of self-esteem and not be cowed by peer pressure.
That's what I like the most about those those girls around Louise's age group who are in distant orbit. There's just enough flair to make you think those characters have potential to be something more.
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>>136675817
This is what I know about Jessica.
>changes her hair color in every appearance.
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>>136677543
That's just enough breadcrumbs to make me hungry for me too.
Like what's your deal Jessica? Why do you know how to pick locks?
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>>136676862
BBWs and that's not a joke either, Gene likes them thicc and plush.
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>>136677497
And I think you're reading more into it than the writers certainly did. There was no moral here.
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>>136677740
You right, I am because the writers did not intend that all and in fact the exact opposite is true and you're supposed to feel bad for Rudy for what a chump he is over such a manipulative bitch.
But Chloe more or less illustrated the concept that No means No perfectly there and it just kinda flew over everyone's head.
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>>136677987
It didn't fly over anyone's head because it wasn't the point. She doesn't OWE Rudy anything but she was still obviously leading him on and that's the bad thing. You didn't stumble on some moral. You didn't discover anything nobody else did. It's Not. The point. And you're a weirdo for harping on it like it was. Why are cartoon fags always like this?
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>>136678130
>It didn't fly over anyone's head because it wasn't the point
Yeah that's what I said.
>she doesn't owe him anything
>but she's also leading him on
No she wasn't though because not once did she say or indicated she was gonna kiss just because he gave the answers.
She manipulated him yes but she didn't lead him on.
Also how about some regular size agency from Rudy? Is he so dumb that he doesn't know cheating is wrong? He willingly gave her those answers because he thought he gonna get a kiss out of it which is entitlement. 
>You didn't stumble on some moral
No means No is a great moral anon, best to learn that quick.
>You didn't discover anything nobody else did
Well the writers seem to be clueless about the fact that Louise is in the wrong for trying to force Chloe to kiss Rudy.
>it's not the point 
Yeah I know because it was the exact opposite message about how cute and noble of Louise to give Rudy that kiss that he was owed.
The ending by the way enforces the idea that Rudy was entitled to a kiss so...yeah you're flatout wring.
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>>136660831
lol that is a great visual.
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>>136668007
Marshmallow and friends, Millie is definitely an insane lesbian
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>>136680088
>when I say Lou you say ise!
>Lou!
>Lou!
>Lou!
>Lou!
>Lou!
>When I say Lou you say ise?
>Lou!
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>>136667896
>Stuff like this and the episode about Bob's Dad's tree story
I went from being bored from watching another anthology episode to slightly interested in seeing Bob's mom when she was living to underwhelmed.
I surley got more emotional seeing Bob's memories of his mom in the movie though.
>Sinead O'Connor "when you love" start playing in the background.
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>>136680511
Yeah that was a nice fucking two minutes. 
>>Sinead O'Connor "when you love" start playing in the background.
This is what I mean. Pure emotional manipulation. You're not forming a real bond with the character you're sad because being sad is the thing to be.
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>>136680745
I legit thought this movie was gonna be about Bob's mom too.
Something as basic as her being the one encouraging him to make creative burgers, how he actually got out of his dad's restaurant because there was just too many memories of his mom there, how him losing the restuarant feels like he failed her in a way.
Imagine that then imagine an arc about Louise actively contemplating that idea that she has outgrown her rabbit ears where we still have the revelation that Bob gave her those pink bunny ears as a tribute to his mom right? Imagine the fucking tears everyone would have when Bob tells louise that it's ok that she's outgrown her ears and she takes them off ON SCREEN and it's ok because it's Louise who reminds Bob the most of him mom and not the pink bunny ears or the restuarant. 
Because it's about family.
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>>136681097
That would require writers who actual understand family. And writing.
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>>136681269
They understood in the beginning of the show at least but moderate success can really change a man.
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>>136681398
Which would annoy Louise more, being the belcher girl with the smallest boobs or the big boob fairy giving her so much tit at a young age that guys won't stop bugging her?
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>>136646119 (OP)
Was neat
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Bump
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>>136681448
Being an oppai loli as it will only slow her down speedwise, would stop her from squeezing into tight spaces, draw attention to her when she's trying to be sneaky.
Worse of all it also means she's gonna have to clothes shopping with Linda and get fitted for bras.
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LITTLE BABIES
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>>136684728
>if you're not real then how come I feel this way~?
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>>136684698
She does not feel this way about having a too much butt though because she doesn't wear shorts and thinks it adds an extra spring to her step.
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>>136677740
>>136677987
>>136678130
>>136678502
The real moral of the story is that Louise should've just nut and tell Rudy that Chloe didn't read his note and seems disinterested in his valentine. 
Honesty is the best policy after all.
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>>136685758
>Louise should've just nut up*
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>>136684656
>adorable fan art 
>no source 
Aw c’mon anon, don’t be like that
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>>136685758
The real moral of the story is that Louise should've kissed Chloe right there in the hallway.
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>>136686103
Their tumblr is called operationcaked.
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For me, it's Die Hard terrorist Louise.
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>>136686269
Their art is good. Shame about their disability.
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>>136667560
God, that's hot. Bobby def gives Lin what she needs
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>>136686479
>little bowtie laces
Cute. Also I keep forgetting that Millie is supposed to more girly girly then Louise what with her voice being deeper.
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>>136686584
It was nice to she had a passion other than stalking Louise.
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>>136686877
>Gwyneth Paltrow leading a GOOP meeting.
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>>136684698
>draw attention to her when she's trying to be sneaky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7-k5UNzJ28 [Embed]
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>>136646119 (OP)
If you liked the movie you'd like the show.
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>>136668007
That grocery store guy that wanted to be with Bob
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>>136687321
Remind me when Jordyn Jones wanted to show off her christmas pajams she got.
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>>136686544
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>>136684698
>is that a 4' bunny sneaking into wonder wharf after dark?
>No...? Pretty sure that's a little girl sneaking into wonder wharf after dark.
>you fucking kidding me bro? Did you see the size of those tits? No kid has tits like that so it's gotta be a 4 foot Rabbit walking on its hindlegs.
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>>136687810
And you know she practices them everyday too.
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>>136687752
the hell are you talking about?
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>>136686447
I'm a barefoot cop 

Oh!
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>>136686269
Oh yeah, I like this artist
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>>136665809
I THINK THAT THIS IS REAL

WHAT I FEEL

AND IF HE COULD COULD FEEL IT TOO

THEN THAT WOULD BE IDEAL
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>>136688051
Some fatass instagram model who posted a thristrap showing how easy it easy to make her ass clap.
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>>136647345

>Family Guy still can't reach a single Emmy & Annie 

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH
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>>136681097
Comments like this make me believe this film is best enjoyed by those unfamiliar with the show. They could sit back and watch a charming animated comedy centered on a silly family, whereas many fans probably built up too many expectations and set themselves up for *some* disappointment.
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>>136688808
I mean sure on one hand it is basically just an episode of Bob's burgers not concerned about going outside of formula but also it's filled with cameos that you'll only gonna appreciate it you're a fan.
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>>136670998
>>136671010
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>>136646760
i don't recall them advertising louise's hat being a big part of the promotion for the movie
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POP IT FLIP IT TWIST IT PITCH IT 

IT'S ALL IN THE FLICK OF THE WRIST, YOU CAN'T KICK IT
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>>136691551
What the fuck is this
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>>136665861
Harley?
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>>136691642
Central Park
co-created by Loren Bouchard and goes all in with being a musical show.
It's Apple TV+ exclusive so that's probably why nobody knows about it.
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>>136671920
Right?? You get it.
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>>136691676
Yeah as in Harley ever shuts her mouth up. She was voiced by Katie Crown so she had a real energetic and cheerful delivery but because got burned by casing Kristen Bell as Molly so he recast her with Ashley Nicole Black as Harley who now does the exact opposite where Harley now subdued and depressed.
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>>136691901
And it is noticable like everytime I hear currenr Harley it sounds off and weird.
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>>136646119 (OP)
You basically got a sizzle reel of the show. For those who have been watching for years, this movie was more of the same. Not bad, but no new territory was explored.
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>>136691771
>Loren Bouchard goes all in on musical shows AFTER he's no longer with Brendan Small
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>>136692110
>this song sounds like shit...perfect!
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>>136692190
>>136692110
>I'M A WIZARD WIZARD
>A WIZARD WIZARD
>OH WIZARD MAN

>I'M A WIZARD WIZARD
>A WIZARD WIZARD
>OH WIZARD MAN

>ELECTRICITY SHOOTS FROM MY FINGER
>NAILS
>ELECTRICITY SHOOTS FROM MY FINGER
>NAILS

>I'LL MELT
>YOUR BRAINS

>A WIZARD WIZARD WIZARD MAN AM I
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So I heard the new season's been improving in the last few episodes, is it true?
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>>136656644
Mmm right in the spot where Bob sleeps, nasty. Reaching spots Bob’s never reached, nastier. Letting Tina watch from the door, nastiest.
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>>136646119 (OP)
The early seasons were more fun since it worked on a format of recording the voice actors having totally adlibed conversations without a script. And those were animated into segments of the show.

Later seasons have distilled the show down to Tina is awkward, Bob is a loser, and Teddy is annoying recycled over and over and over again seemingly without end. Nothing new or interesting happens any longer, it's all safe and sterile meaningless plots that usually never go anywhere.
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What the fuck that April Fools episode was stupidly good, it felt like a leftover from the early seasons. I didn't think they still had it in them.
I like how Calvin fucks around when his own life is in danger but immediately starts panicking when he thinks Bob is dead
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>>136646119 (OP)
Could never really get into it since it looks like yet another one of those Charlie Brown type shows where the main character is a complete loser that the rest of the cast shits on, the plot is driven by everything and everyone hating them and failing at everything they ever do. And every side characters transforms into a complete dick when the MC walks on screen. 

I get it, his life sucks and he is miserable. Even George Costanza still won on occasion and not every episode was wrapped around how he was a total waste of space. Bob has nothing going on forever.
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>>136692528
I don't think it's an accurate assessment.
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>>136692528
>>136692542
I would argue it's worse than that, the show constantly implies that Bob should be successful, and he's constantly screwed over for no fucking reason.
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>>136669371
Gene has no other function than to spout off some one liner after someone else says or does something. That's it. He makes puns or a joke about eating garbage.
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>>136692542
I don't know, it definitely has that nerds in an 80s teen movie situation where nothing is illegal or immoral in public if it is done towards Bob. Everyone can just pick on him with impunity and see zero repercussions over it because Bob suck and everyone in the scene knows it.
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>>136692528
That dynamic was alright in the first few seasons when he actually got angry and fought back against the bullshit thrown his way
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>>136692918
>the fucking baseball episode
>THROW, THROW TO FIRST NOW
>aww you're such a dick bob
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>>136692950
i love dick bob and i love bob dick
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwOhqGhP-mk [Embed]
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>>136692295
Well the April's fool episode was good at least.
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>>136692110
Damn can you imagine what the movie soundtracks would sound like with Smalls working on it?
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>>136695508
>>136692295
The Bird Watching one was nice. It's good to see Bob and Tina bonding
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>>136693081
Mmm a fellow sloppy bear enthusiast I see…
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>>136692355
We had a real good run of seasonal episodes from "Putts-giving" to "Plight Before Christmas." S13 in general has been decent compared to the most recent seasons that preceded it. Things are lookin' up for the Belchers.