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No politics, no misandry or misogyny.

It was just a goofy, fun movie. 

I liked the cast's work, I enjoyed the animation, and the story was sweet and simple.
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I still haven't seen it. Glad you had fun anon
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It was typical Illumination shit with a Mario skin. I watched it, and already forgot about it.
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I will never see it. Fuck you anon.
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Cool blog faggot
The script is non-existent, the animation is plain and utilitarian, and the voice acting blows ass so hard the VD should never be allowed to work again.

Raise your standards cunt
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>>136657036
Found the Sonic fan.
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>>136657017
Fair enough.

>>136657020
I didn't say you had to see it, I'm saying I saw it and had fun. Simple as.
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>>136657036
The script does suck and the voice directors should be dragged into the street and shot, but what's wrong with the animation?
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>>136657040
Fuck you anon
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>>136657036
Illumination isn't the best studio but their animation always looks goof, and I think it looks even better here with Nintendo at the helm.

>>136657053
I thought the voice acting was serviceable. I did like Jack Black as Bowser, I thought he was funny. I don't really like Seth Rogen's politics but I did like his portrayal of Donkey Kong. 

As for Chris Pratt, I understand people are mad that Charles Martinet wasn't Mario but I think if he was Mario in this movie, the high pitched fake italian voice would have been really grating for an hour and a half. It works well in video games because the dialogue is short, not so much in a movie.
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I like that they can create the most generic Illumination goyslop ever with the biggest Mary Sue in ages and you’ll all Stockholm Syndrome with how great it is because Mario skins are plastered over it
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So what did he think of it?
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>>136657075
I agree she was a Mary Sue, but she wasn't portrayed as a totally perfect, flawless girlboss like Rey, and the movie didn't lecture me for my original sin of being a straight white male, so I'll take it.
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>>136657036
Illumination's animation is insanely good. It's everything else that's the issue.
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>>136657075
Saw a YouTube comment say that allegedly, an insider who worked on the film said that a different draft of the movie did have Princess Peach basically hijack the movie as the main character, have her save the day at the end, and portray Mario as a "bumbling idiot", but Nintendo saw this and demanded that they changed it to have Mario be the main character and the hero of his story. 

I'm glad Nintendo tightened their leash on this one.
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>>136657053
>What's wrong with the animation?
It's utterly sterile. It's technically sound and that's all it is. It makes no efforts to stand out, there's no interesting compositions or stylized fuckin' ANYTHING. It's the definition of "serviceable." A zoomer would call it soulless.

>>136657074
The casting is fine, Illumination is well known for stunt casting and they honestly could have done much worse, but the voice direction is fucking atrocious. I can't fathom how shit a VD has to be for Fred fucking Armisen to turn in such a dogshit performance, or to put such heavy autotune on Jack goddamned Black. There's even an interview with Pratt and Day about how they kept trying to find character voices for the brothers and the director kept stopping them.
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>>136656971 (OP)
>female character's personality completely replaced with generic action girl
>no politics

Okay.
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>>136657129
>they kept trying to find character voices for the brothers and the director kept stopping them.

That's a shame. 

At the beginning of the movie, they had these italian voices they were trying to put on in their commercial, and they had a whole joke about it.

It would have been fun if the director just let them do their thing the whole time.
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>>136657122
It only happened at the last 10 minutes, and Peach still ends up giving them the star of taking it herself. PRAISE NINTENDO HALLELUJAH
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>>136657145
Spotted the /pol/tard
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>>136657230
How is that person a /pol/tard? The movie is good, but it had the female character knowing and doing a lot and the main character being mostly clueless.
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>>136657247
True. But Mario was still the hero in the end and that's what matters.
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>>136657247
Peach serves a mentor role for the hero as she's a native to the world beyond the threshold
It's not subversive politics, it's the most basic form of the hero's journey. Because Illumination are hacks.
It's fine
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>>136657316
I don't mind that too much.
It would have been nice if it was Mario and Luigi saving the princess like in the games but this was ok too.
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>>136657074
>I don't really like Seth Rogen's politics but I did like his portrayal of Donkey Kong
Faggot, it's literally his normal voice. What the fuck are you talking about "portrayal"? If you mean the way DK acted, you have the writers, storyboarders and animators to thank for that. His voice was just Seth Rogen's talking voice, he couldn't even be bothered to throw some ape sounds in there. His portrayal of Donkey Kong was being Seth Rogen.
>As for Chris Pratt, I understand people are mad that Charles Martinet wasn't Mario but I think if he was Mario in this movie, the high pitched fake italian voice would have been really grating for an hour and a half. It works well in video games because the dialogue is short, not so much in a movie.
Have you ever tried forming your own opinions, instead of repeating whatever you heard off twitter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8sYvNtjXRI [Embed]
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>>136657352
>Have you ever tried forming your own opinions, instead of repeating whatever you heard off twitter?

Charles Martinet's Mario is too comical. The voice wouldn't have worked for the sad/serious scenes.

"My-a Papa is-a disappointed in-a me! Mama Mia!"
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>>136657391
Counterpoint: the entire "the bros are losers" plot point serves no purpose except to make the script fit a basic mold and shouldn't be in the movie
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>>136657391
If you can't imagine Martinet's Mario in genuine despair, you probably can't imagine an apple in your head.
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>>136657405
To be honest I'm not very creative so I'm not sure how else a Mario movie could have been approached. 

>>136657417
https://youtu.be/32Hp1LW08Yc [Embed]
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It's fine. 7/10.
My favorite part was the OST. The composer did a great job incorporating various Mario songs, which made it all the more jarring when Illumination couldn't help themselves and put in a bunch of pop songs out of nowhere.

https://youtu.be/kA6-haHd-ew [Embed]
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>>136657472
I liked their rendition of the Star PowerUp theme.
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>No politics, no misandry or misogyny.
nigger what?
Princess Peach's entire screen time is just her being a boss man in charge with a vagina, Luigi's entire screen time is just him being a weak beta bitch, Mario's entire screen time is just him being the biggest meek faggot a human can be, you can't get more political, misogyne and misandric then that in 2023, it's textbook modern left propaganda.
Bowser turning out to be just a massive fucking simp for peach was just the little cherry on top to make sure any sort of human that isn't a faggot would cringe.

>>136657122
I fucking believe this, 100% no question asked, the movie itself answer any doubt there might be to this.
We just can't have a good old hero saving a beautifull girly princess these days just because it's the right thing to do.
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>>136657531
>Bowser turning out to be just a massive fucking simp for peach was just the little cherry on top to make sure any sort of human that isn't a faggot would cringe.
Yeah Peach was pretty fucked up in the movie, but Bowser was always a dorky simp for her.
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>>136657531
>Mario's entire screen time is just him being the biggest meek faggot a human can be

Did we both see the same movie? He and Luigi literally beat the ever living daylights out of Bowser at the end of the film.
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>>136657444
IMO there's enough of an arc in Mario and Luigi being "fish out of water" without the "they're losers" beats. It's a hat on a hat.

They could have easily gone with them being competent plumbers or even heroes before getting isekai'd and having to deal with a whole new world
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Peaches. Peaches. Peaches. Peaches. Peaches. Peaches.

Is the hit love song of the year.
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>>136657883
Bitches
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>>136657883
https://youtu.be/t47_taFk5sk [Embed]
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>>136657699
True
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Winning by Super Star knocked all the wind outta my sails.
Fuck this movie.
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>>136657554
bro, there's a fiew theorised and possible original story why Bowser was capturing princess peach the 2 main ones if memory is correct are "fuck those little mushroom" and "I was raised to be a ruthless warlord but now I have little baby koopas, I must to give them a proper mother figure"

Peach was never the motivation itself in all cases, she always was supposed to be a mean to an end for bowser and she never was, not a pretty little girl.
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>>136657417
It’s not like he isn’t in the movie. He plays Mario’s dad and this other guy. Both do the wahoo in the Mario voice.
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>>136660135
Doesn’t matter. Bowser being a simp for Peach is the motivation for the movie and it works for the story it’s trying to tell.
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>>136657883
That song is the worst part of the movie
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>>136658307
Crybaby.
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>>136660420
It's cheating.
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>>136660456
>Why couldn't the Italian Manlet beat the big ass turtle dragon on his own?!
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>>136656971 (OP)
Break-neck pace, needed at least 10 or 15 minutes to help build the plot better.
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>>136660515
Cuz that's how it happened in the games.
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>>136660515
Do you even play the fucking games?
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>>136660539
I just ran under him
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>>136656971 (OP)
It is a mediocre movie like all Illuminations movies. It is by no means terrible, the animation and the voice acting is good. It is just complete corporate slog made to arrested development fanbase that is the Nintendo fans and deprived of anything that would make it interesting.
It has no original music, just the same 80's pop music that is in every movie. The movie, its character and plots are inoffensive and basic as possible. Nothing in the movie feels special.

Thematically most of movies run time was spend presenting Nintendo assets just like the new Rescue Rangers movie did for Disney, but it was even worse because it did not even try to do anything different.

With out Nintendo characters the movie could not stand up on its own and it feels like the entire movie was designed by committee instead of made by people with passion.
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>>136660539
>>136660559
I didn't see no bombs for Mario to throw Bowser into near the end of the movie, did you? I didn't see no lava pit for him to fall in either. Face it, you're mad because you wanna' be mad.
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I thought Chris Pratt was going to do a NYC accent
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>>136660635
No, Mario did not beat Bowser with his own power, That's it.
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>>136660688
He never does that. Literally every game has Mario having to defeat Bowser via items in the area or via running past him and hitting a switch/button.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_pVQ3cu0Q4 [Embed]
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>>136660297
what's even that story?
Bitch can steal the show?
Nah, the motivation is weak as fuck and the whole movie story is garbo, the animation is alright and the character design is on point, nothing fucked up like early sonic the edge hog eyes going on, but that's about it, the koopas are pretty cool too, loved that metal concert scene.
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>>136657699
they ARE competent plumbers. spike hates them so he treats them like shit and putting out a silly commercial and wearing the silly costume at all times is definitely a disappointment for strict parents. 

they were not at all losers outside of their singular bully and asshole dad
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>>136660728
You are reaching.
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>>136660753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFiNkChGANo [Embed]
Here's the 3d ones too you contrarian faggot.
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>>136660753
you could only kill bowser by dunking him in lava. that or the fire flower
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>>136660765
>contrarian
Fuck you shill.
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>>136660728
Thats like saying guns kilk peipke jot jskdurienejfa
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>>136660765
>he always needed the help of the super star
>show only 2 exemple from 2 super mario games
damn, tell me you're a shill without telling me you're a shill.
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>>136656971 (OP)
Based.
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>>136660787
>>136660829
why are you so stupid?
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>>136660854
I lterally just described what you did, if you find stupidity in that you'll find it in your mirror too bro
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>>136660849
Double based.
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>>136660787
>>136660829
>WAAAAAAH! HE DISAGREES WITH ME SO THAT MAKES HIM A SHILL!
>IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M A GIANT FAGGOT WHO GETS ALL HIS NEWS FROM REACTION YOUTUBERS!
>NUGGGGGIIIIIEEEEESSS!

Seriously this is what you sound like. You have 3d and 2d examples, 90% of the defeats are from Mario just running past Bowser and hitting a button or switch, or Bowser screwing himself over. Give me an example of Mario beating Bowser on his on, with his bare fists, and I guarantee you you can't give me three of them.
>>136660823
Go take down a deer with your bare hands. Actually just go kill a goat. I'll wait.
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>>136660854
Why are you?
The ending was flaccid.
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>>136660898
>Going to mat for this film.
Mario cheated.
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>>136660898
projecting will get you somewhere one day Anon, don't give up.
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>>136660943
>>136660954
I'm right you're wrong. Movie made mad money. Audiences loved Peach. They love Mario more than Sonic.
Seeeeethe.
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>>136660884
>>136660911
all youre doing is being contrarian and calling everybody shills and pretending to be 2 different people who post a minute apart. by the way you forgot to not capitalize on your second post.

you can dislike things, but dislike them for genuine reasons, not bullshit
>hrrm mario had to use a super star thats lame hrm
>he never beats bowser without a gimmick
>youre a shill
youre a fucking retard. say the plot was stupid. say the kongs had zero purpose. say the kart section was pointless. say the voice acting is bad. say ANYTHING other than contrarian nonsense
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>>136660991
Wow so you're right the ending wasn't cheap at all.
& Peach wasn't abrasive or Mario wasn't a piece of plywood wowzers!
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>>136661078
Nigga nobody is saying the ending wasn't shit, I'm saying you're a goal post moving faggot who can't accept he was wrong about Mario needing a fucking power up to beat Bowser.
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>>136661045
>Your opinion is wrong for arbitrary reasons!
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>>136661045
don't know about the other guy but the plot WAS stupid and that's my main beef, the kong I would have liked if they had taken 100% inspiration from the super nintendo's game insted of just taking inspiration from it, the kart section felt forced, but that blue turtle going school shooter on mario was pretty dope I like it.
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>>136661117
You've never played 64.
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>>136656971 (OP)
I liked it too, anon. Sure, it wasn't a perfect movie, but it was fun to watch. Not every movie has to be "high art"
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>>136661172
Where did Mario beat Bowser with his bare hands, without having to throw him into the bombs?

Every time you try to attack Bowser head on in that game, you lose health. EVERY. TIME.

Mario cannot beat Bowser on his own, he need help from outside sources, power ups, or Bowser being a dumb ass and screwing himself over.
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I just find it autistic that everytime someone says "KIDS DESERVE BETTER" what they actualy mean is "kids movies should be specifically aimed at having a crossover audience with autistic adults like me".
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>>136661214
You don't get it
Soft city hands you have.
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>>136661045
>all youre doing is being contrarian and calling everybody shills and pretending to be 2 different people who post a minute apart. by the way you forgot to not capitalize on your second post.

I'm not whoever you're replying to, but they posted under a minute apart from each other. Unless he bothered with a 4chinz pass, it's two different IPs.
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>>136661155
thats fine and i agree except for the blue shell. that was fucking lame. the kart section was nothing like mario kart at all. they didnt explain the powerup boxes and they were just a fact of the mushroom kingdom, but they couldnt fucking add the item boxes for the karts? they HAD to make it "realistic" by having physical weapons and kart items are only cameos?

fucking gay. see, these are real gripes, not contrarian shit like the super star. HOW it ended, sure, but crying that mario used a powerup for bowser is braindead
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>>136661275
DO THESE LOOK LIKE THE SOFT HANDS OF A CITY BOY?!
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>>136660823
Are you polish?
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>>136661337
>see, these are real gripes
Like your mother in the street?
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>>136661323
EVERYONE WHO DISGAREES WITH ME IS 1 PERSON DAMMIT
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>>136661386
No im just retarded and tired
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>>136661364
Mitts of a rapist.
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>>136661248
Yes. 

Parents have to drag their faggot retard kids to these movies all the time so they should at least have someone with a giant fat ass like the Invincibles.
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>>136661214
NIGGA IF YOU CAN SWING A DINOSAUR AROUND IN CIRCLES AND THROW HIM YOU ARE FUCKING ULTRAMAN STRONG
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>>136661442
WOULD A RAPIST HAVE A GENUINE CONWAY TWITTER COLLECTORS KNIFE?!
>>136661484
It was all in the hips. Mario got mad glutes.
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>>136660898
I cant even type why are you making me kill a goat
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>>136661555
Grab his legs and spin him around and chuck him at a tree. It works for Mario.
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>>136657391
Charles Martinet should have been Mario's voice actor but toned it down a lot. 

Do you think real Italian funerals are BING BING MY MAMMA MIA IS A SO DEAD
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>>136661337
Yeah but what I hate the most is what they did with Princess peach, she doesn't feel like a princess at all, she isn't even girly in any way.
In super mario RPG one of her strongest power was to give health to everyone by starting group hugs, GROUP HUGS!
That was fucking cute and funny to imagine happening especially in a fighting circumstance involving bowser being an ally.

They did my Princes Peach all frigging wrong and that shit don't fly for me bro.
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>>136657531
>Bowser turning out to be just a massive fucking simp for peach was just the little cherry on top to make sure any sort of human that isn't a faggot would cringe. 
To be fair, Bowser simping for Peach is not that much different from his character in the games or other media.
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>>136661665
Yes
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>>136661706
I really don't think bowser was ever a simp, in the games it felt more like he wanted to cuck the mushroom people for some reason or just to spite mario, wich is dark chad, but chad none the less.
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>>136657017
I actually am going to disagree. It had its “Oh yeah this is Illumination” moments like the poorly used pop songs, but overall it was way above Illumination’s typical output.
The effort put into making Mushroom Kingdom a fully fledged world and not just a generic landscape with an occasional Easter egg, the surprisingly great climax that actually used the Brooklyn setting in a way to emphasize the threat, the strong balance between the humor and the tension, and overall showing what makes Mario and Luigi such likable characters (not to mention Bowser and the Koopas were great villains) are all aspects well above the typical Illumination project. It had moments that definitely felt standard like the music and the drawn out dog scene, but I really think this was a strong step in a better direction (one they’ll regress from but still). 

Is the movie flawed? Yes. But is it on the same level as crap like the Seuss movies and Minions? No, definitely better than that.
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>>136661686
>Princess peach, she doesn't feel like a princess at all, she isn't even girly in any way.
>In super mario RPG one of her strongest power was to give health to everyone by starting group hugs, GROUP HUGS!

Good I hate game Peach and thought she was cringe, thank god the movie made her 3 dimentional human being instead of a girly barbie doll with no characterization.
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>>136660891
Triple based
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>>136661686
i think she shouldve been more toned down. a lot less energy. daisy shouldve been who this peach is and shes undoubtedly coming next so what the fuck personality could she have now that peach took hers?
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>>136662445
She's 1D and a political left projection in the movie tho.
If you like that shit you're objectively subhuman
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>>136657531
This feels like complaining specifically to do it. Bowser has ALWAYS been obsessed with Peach. In Mario Sunshine he literally kidnapped her and told his son she was his mom then tried to force them into being a family. Even then, the line in the end about him finally being happy shows that even more so than Peach he’s just trying to desperately fill a void in his heart. Not to mention it allows him to be funny and silly as well as threatening without it being jarring.

And Mario was absolutely the driving force of anything successful, not Peach.
>Peach gets denied Kong’s army and is about to leave. Mario refuses, then risks his life in a fight to get them, which he wins.
>Bowser sicks the Banzai Bill on the Mushroom Kingdom, which Mario stopped, not Peach, saving everyone.
>When Peach “beat” Bowser it was obvious he wasn’t 100% trying and it took a surprise attack just to stall him for a bit. When he actually got serious not only did he break free, but he tanked Peach AND Donkey at the same time. They literally lost until Mario came back out to keep fighting Bowser. Then when you realize how much of a beating Bowser took just to beat him (not even knocking him out or killing him), you realize just how much nobody was going to stop him unless Mario got the star.
Literally everything was Mario, outside of Peach pushing the plot forward and stalling Bowser long enough to save people.
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>>136661665
as an actual pasta-american i will have to say the Sopranos are the most accurate portrayal of our funerals. lots of melodrama and theatrics at the wake/burial service then a big party with food afterward where they shittalk tthe deceased
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>>136662878
Guys its just Bluto and Popeye and Olive Oil
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>>136662878
>Princess peach show mario how to platform
>She takes most of the decisions that make the story advance
>She save herself and luigi become the princess
get fucked my dude and keep posting retarded shit.
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>>136663193
Did you type this in a blind rage or are you a pajeet?
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>>136663193
You didn’t watch the movie.
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>>136660635
>I didn't see no bombs for Mario to throw Bowser into near the end of the movie, did you? I didn't see no lava pit for him to fall in either.
It's almost like this isn't real life and they could've wrote literally anything to exist under any circumstance and easily could've based it around that.
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>>136663290
>You didn’t watch the movie.
Low IQ nigger like you shouldn't be allowed alone on a computer, can't even shill properly.

Did Luigi need saving or not?
Did Peach take most of the decisions or not?
Did peach showed Mario how to be fucking Mario or not?
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>>136663193
Mario saved Luigi, anon, not Peach.
Also
>The person who lived in that world her whole life taught the guy that just got there how to do stuff there
>The Princess who is aware of what’s going on knows where everyone needs to go
You really are mad for no reason.
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>>136657129
All of illuminations other shit is really basic but I think this movie had good lighting and composition. The scenes in brooklyn were generic though. The scenes in the fire flower field and the scene where dk and mario fall into that water I remember thinking they looked great
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>>136661906
Doesn't he literally try to marry peach in oddysey?
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>>136663572
>Did peach showed Mario how to be fucking Mario or not?
Literally the point was that she didn’t. She taught him how to navigate, but Mario’s steel will is what made him special. Peach lost in the end, Peach was willing to leave the Kongs without getting the army, Peach couldn’t hold off Bowser for more than a few minutes at most. Mario spent the whole movie going farther than her by virtue of being Mario, a guy who won’t quit even if he’s not immediately good at something.
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>>136662754
Nah, in the movie she clearly had depth to her status as princess with her baby flash back and actually possesed wisdom intelligence, and cunning(as well natural fighting prowess to rival Bowser) in combat as she planned to escape from Bowser the second she offered to be his prisoner before the wedding. Game peach gets helplessly forced into Bowsers schemes and plans due to her lack of being smart or capable of defending or outsmarting her captors. Leading to her being kindnapped and helpless to his whims until Mario comes. Its obvious whos superior, its movie Peach.
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>>136661906
>I really don't think bowser was ever a simp

He is and the movie coined by Miyamoto hinself confirms it.
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>>136663924
>Peach couldn’t hold off Bowser for more than a few minutes at most.

Wrong, Peach had Biwser dead to rights, but she choose to proritize saving the prisoners from the lava instead of killing Bowser once and for all. She defeated king koopa all by herself but the plot needed Mario and Luigi to get the definitive victory against him.
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>>136664764
You didn't see the movie.

She didn't save the prisoners. She attacked the wedding party. She knocked herself out and it took DK and Mario to save the prisoners.
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>>136657567
>luigi cant even fight normal enemies
>somehow gets god powers from star and becomes a karate master

>meanwhile peach single-handedly defeats the legion of enemies attending the wedding with a normal power up
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>>136657122
>Saw a YouTube comment say that allegedly, an insider who worked on the film said 

can confirm this, my dad works at Nintendo
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>>136656971 (OP)
I liked it too. It's a good product, nothing revolutionary but perfectly serviceable and fun. It just feels better than it is because it's one of the few non garbage movies we've got in the past two years. 

We're so used to mediocrity these days that average feels rewarding now.
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>>136664764
Bowser being stuck in a situation he broke out of when he got serious enough isn’t “dead to rights”, anon. That’s called being stalled.
And if you honestly think Peach could’ve killed him then you didn’t see the climax where he shook off being Super Saiyan punched hundreds of feet up into his airship, which was so intense that it cracked the ship in two. Or how when he took down Peach and Donkey together.
She sprung a trap, he didn’t go all out, she froze him, then he broke out.
Also, Peach stalled the prisoners dying. Donkey and Mario saved the prisoners.
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>>136664991
He wasn’t a “karate master”, he was following his big brother’s lead. It shows that together they have incredible teamwork.
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>>136657122
Every single leak about this movie ended up being fake anon, it is not an autistic altright grifter of all people who will have real internal accurate leaks.
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>>136662573
You know jackshit about Daisy if you think this Peach was similar to her. You likely only know the character from Internet porn.
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>>136664903
Yeah it seems weird how this anon is so angry about the movie but gets major parts of it wrong. I’m assuming he’s basing this all off of clips he found and a wiki description.
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>>136665448
>She sprung a trap, he didn’t go all out, she froze him, then he broke out.

Could of killed him by knocking him in lava. But again plot.
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>>136664903
>She knocked herself out
>Immediately gets back up

Hmm.
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>>136665821
>Immediately

If it was immediate, Donkey Kong wouldn't have had to grab the gear to prevent the prisoners from descending into the lava.
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>>136665803
How was she going to push him in? How do you even know the lava would kill him? In the games he takes literal lava baths and in the movie we didn’t even see anything that can legit kill him, just beat him down enough to be hurt.
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>>136666053
Again, the plot had peach do the active focus of being able to stop bowser and his forces for a short time and stall the prisoners from dying from lava, she could and did beat bowser and from thst stand point could have just escaped and collected more power ups in case Bowser and his minons decided they wanted her persued. But course Mario showed uped on time and her role was done. Peach did win against the main villain. But again plot needed her to nerf her so Mario can become Super Mario.
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>why isn't this female character a useless fucking retard
Peaches best appearances in the games (ttyd and rpg) are when shes not useless
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>>136657531
>>136657122
>morons will believe literal "dad at Nintendo" insides
You get what you hyucking deserve.
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>>136657531
>why is luigi a coward
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>>136666233
So basically you are mad that she did anything of accomplishment. She didn’t save the prisoners, she was only able to stall Bowser and still lost to him in the climax, and wouldn’t have stopped the Banzai Bill from wiping out her kingdom, but because she did anything notable it’s bad, and if she didn’t do something it’s “nerf”. Come one now, anon.
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>>136666552
Paper mario is when peach is the best. She doesnt do combat but helps mario in other ways. Peach doesnt have to charge in with a spear to attack bowser, but lets mario defend her instead. theres no point in mario coming to the rescue if peach was capable of getting out of the situation in the first place.
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>>136667417
>She didn’t save the prisoners
She did stop bowser thus the gear, she was going to save but again plot had to have Mario do something

>she was only able to stall Bowser and still lost to him in the climax

Everyone was losing to bowser, even Mario himself. She was capable of fighting Bowser without getting a scratch while Mario had to get pummeled until plot star came.

>and wouldn’t have stopped the Banzai Bill from wiping out her kingdom, but because she did anything notable it’s bad, and if she didn’t do something it’s “nerf”. Come one now, anon.

Again, plot. She did more enough to prove shes Marios equal but again its Super Mario Bros. and she has to be nerfed to make Mario be the hero against everything shes fought. 

She did fine, she just didnt win fully most of the time. She did foiled bowsers own kidnaping of her and beat him to the point she coud escape or retrive the power up star from while he was contained but again plot.
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>>136667860
Peach shouldnt need Mario to fight for her every time shes in trouble. Shes a capable fighter in Smash after all.
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I found it kinda funny Mario and Luigi have to live in a single bedroom mushroom house at the end and NOT in the HUGE ass castle???? 

Movie made me love Luigi though. You kinda forget that Luigi was there since the beginning but Mario got the spot light.
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>>136667860
This

>>136668127
Everyone is a capable fighter in Smash, it's not indicative of actual combat potential. Nobody thinks Wii Fit Trainer or the MC from Animal Crossing can actually fight
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I don't care how corny or stupid they was. I went to see them with my family and darn it I had fun.

No skills, no talent or showmanship

It was just a goofy, fun band

I liked the band's work, I enjoyed the songs, and the music was sweet and simple
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>>136668220
Shes also athletic enough to be a capable fighter in mario sports games.
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>>136668340
As is everyone else since they're mascots first and foremost, they're not going to limit what characters can be used for sports even if it looks fucking ridiculous for Bowser to play tennis or King Boo to drive a go-kart
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>>136668093
Again, you’re mad she did anything helpful and action oriented. You’re just repeating what you’ve already said and was countered. If anything you said was true Peach would’ve been the one to straight up beat Bowser, not Mario, and she would’ve actively saved the prisoners, which she did not.

My question is this: What did you want her to do in those scenes? What would have been better to you?
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>>136656971 (OP)
Congrats, you're a normal fucking person and not a brainfried e-culture war faggot.
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>>136668399
So by your logic, since theyre are mascots or props with no limit in how used, then Peach and the rest of the princesses have no boundries to what they are capable of as playable or functional roles in medium like this movie, thus Peach is also a elite and highly trainered fighter and platforming master on Mario and Luigis level. Hell pauline can be stronger than mario in fighting and platforming, she just doesnt want to.

Good to know. It just depends on what the medium is. Just like Mickey and Friends and what they do in kingdom hearts.
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>>136668636
>they are mascots 
correct
>props with no limit in how used
incorrect
They have defined traits and roles but are still mascots first and foremost, you won't see Mario or Peach used as villains or Bowser being portrayed as a weak underdog because their characteristics still fit them into specific portrayals. Everyone in the cast was tweaked for the film, Peach's is just more drastic to fit how the movie is more action-oriented, and even then she's still secondary to Mario
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>>136669051
>Bowser being portrayed as a weak underdog 

Pretty sure that has happened in smash bros. 

>Everyone in the cast was tweaked for the film, Peach's is just more drastic to fit how the movie is more action-oriented, and even then she's still secondary to Mario

As long their characters remain basic and identifiable, they can elevate their roles to more than their original portrayals, its happened in all medium because according to you their mascots and icons, it doesnt matter what they do as long as they are the identity theyre always seen as. Movie Peach is still the same compassionate, graceful, loving, quirky royal ruler shebis from the games, but now a royal badass and mario and bowser's fighting peer.(bsatbwwnrhfthag).

The mario bros games focused on the mario bros themselves, the movie focuses on mario and peach as two perspectives mario in a new world, peach working with mario to save her kingdom. Its refreshing we get mario lore expanded from the main female.
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The point of this thread isn't to talk about a movie you like but to start a 300 reply argument about the culture war
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>>136660635
>>I didn't see no bombs for Mario to throw Bowser into near the end of the movie, did you? I didn't see no lava pit for him to fall in either.

Which are additional problems in and of themselves. Why do so many retards defend shoddy writing by pointing out the shoddy writing. It's like they think this was an actual series of events. When someone critiques what happened they're talking about it from a complete script writing point of view. All of that stuff was the way they wrote it to be. They could have ended up having it be anything they wanted and this is what they chose to happen.
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>>136669393
>Pretty sure that has happened in smash bros.
No? The only time Smash even had anything resembling a story with character roles was Subspace, and he was one of the main antagonists there
>Movie Peach is still the same compassionate, graceful, loving, quirky royal ruler she is from the games
She isn't though, her portrayal was altered compared to what she's actually like in the games. She doesn't use magic, instigates fights and probably shouldn't be in a dress and heels given how much her attitude is changed. Again, it works for the film to make her action-oriented, but she's not the same Peach, and that's fine for what they're going for, but I prefer game Peach overall and I don't see why that's an issue 
>"mario lore expanded"
The movie is a separate canon to begin with, everything about the Kongs should make that obvious
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>>136668127
>Shes a capable fighter in Smash after all.

You know what else she is in Smash? A FUCKING TOY! Good lord I know I should know better than talk to Smash fags but do you really not know the ending to your own fucking game?
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>>136669605
>Why do so many retards defend shoddy writing by pointing out the shoddy writing.
Because they think being self aware about the flaws means they aren't flaws anymore
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>>136656971 (OP)
No.
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>>136669641 
>No? The only time Smash even had anything resembling a story with character roles was Subspace, and he was one of the main antagonists there

Still a story. Try again

>She isn't though, her portrayal was altered compared to what she's actually like in the games.

Still doesnt effect her character or what shes known for. She still peach, but shes not a kidnapped rape fetish everyone wants her to be.

>She doesn't use magic, instigates fights and probably shouldn't be in a dress and heels given how much her attitude is changed.

Wrong, this started in Super Mario 3d world. The movie is just tributing that.

>Again, it works for the film to make her action-oriented, but she's not the same Peach, and that's fine for what they're going for, but I prefer game Peach overall and I don't see why that's an issue

All Mario games are action oriented, stop making excuses to why Peach cant be as action oriented, because you want her to be a plot device.

>The movie is a separate canon to begin with, everything about the Kongs should make that obvious

Its a new way of looking at the old established lore of the games. A story and lire built by a love letter of what the games created. I prefer it to the games lore.

>You know what else she is in Smash? A FUCKING TOY! Good lord I know I should know better than talk to Smash fags but do you really not know the ending to your own fucking game?

I want her to use her smash moves in canon, if a toy can use her likeness as a fighting master, so can she. And again, its an example of Peach being outside her comfort zone and still being accepted for trying something new with her.
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>>136656971 (OP)
The amount of people running damage control for this movie online makes it look like complete ass. I will not he seeing it.
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>>136670099
>Still a story. Try again
Try again what? Bowser's still not an underdog in that, nothing you said was correct
> this started in Super Mario 3d world
No it didn't, not only is that not the first game with Peach playable, but Peach is not some flawless acrobatic master in that. Her gameplay traits in those are that she's
>slowest overall
>weakest of the playable options
>carried by her magical floating ability
None of that is represented in the movie, even her float is due to the dress expanding and not using magic
>kidnapped rape fetish 
You're just spewing random shit at this point, I don't think you ever actually liked Mario games to begin with
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>>136670314
all over a stupid fucking mario movie.....

captcha: 2KG4Y
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>>136670316
Anon is baiting, ignore all Mario threads.
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>>136670316
>Try again what? Bowser's still not an underdog in that, nothing you said was correct

Damage control huh. He got shit stomped the most of the villains and a was total joke to even Dedede.

>No it didn't, not only is that not the first game with Peach playable, but Peach is not some flawless acrobatic master in that. Her gameplay traits in those are that she's

Still was she was playable and had the blueprint of the mario bros gameplay, thus movie peach improved on the original. And I proved that she held a fighting role before that game and the movie already.

>You're just spewing random shit at this point, I don't think you ever actually liked Mario games to begin with

Youre the one calling her weak and slow and helpleds and secretly wants her to be bowsers breeding slave. Sorry, this is newand improved peach, a peach that doesnt follow your expectations.
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>>136670592
>He got shit stomped the most of the villains and a was total joke to even Dedede.
I don't think you understand what "weak underdog" means
>I proved that she held a fighting role before that game and the movie already.
Smash isn't canon, we've been over this. Isabelle is a fighter for fucks sake
>Youre the one calling her weak and slow
Because out of the four playable characters she is the slowest and the weakest. Her strength has always been her magical capabilities, not anything physical
>and helpleds
Never said that
>and secretly wants her to be bowsers breeding slave
Never said that either, you're mental
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>>136656971 (OP)

I'm 39 and took my kids to watch this, I liked it a lot.
I think younger people overrate Martinet a little bit. For the 40 year old people who grew up with NES and Super Mario World, Mario was a plumber from Brooklin who didn't speak in a high pitched voice. I never liked Mario's voice post Mario 64, in my mind it went from the Italian dude of the Super Mario Bros rap to something more like Mikey Mouse.
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>>136670731
>I don't think you understand what "weak underdog" means

Bowsers a loser in brawl thus he grts the underdog stick for being Ganons bitch and not his own boss.

>Smash isn't canon, we've been over this. Isabelle is a fighter for fucks sake

Neither is rpg or the sports games, it doesnt define what she can do outside of canon or spin offs. And her abilities in the movie draw influence from smash and 3d world and apparently some flash parodies.

>Because out of the four playable characters she is the slowest and the weakest. Her strength has always been her magical capabilities, not anything physical

In some games shes the fastest, most agile and stamina prone. Shes the finesse to marios brute.

>Never said that either, you're mental

You want her to stay a trophy wife to the hero and the helpless weakling in playable games. This is not the case as shes better in some games than others in stats, in this movie shes treated like a peer/equal not a prize for the hero or villain.
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>>136671026
>villains are underdogs
are you dumb on purpose
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>>136671122
Bowser got bitch slapped by fox mcloud and dededde. Hes a joke.
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>>136671026
>Bowsers a loser in brawl thus he grts the underdog stick for being Ganons bitch and not his own boss.
Bowser isn't Ganon's bitch, both of them are working together under Master Hand. Ganon betrays Bowser but that's in his nature to do so. None of that has anything to do with being a "weak underdog"
>You want her to stay a trophy wife to the hero and the helpless weakling in playable games
No I don't, I prefer her demure and dainty personality where magic is her strength. Don't put words in my mouth
>her abilities in the movie draw influence from smash and 3d world and apparently some flash parodies.
>and apparently some flash parodies.
I'm going to stop replying now because it's clear you're actually handicapped if you think Newgrounds animations had any bearing on the movie
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>>136656971 (OP)
Thanks for your blogpost. It was pretty simple, i enjoyed the reddit spacing and the fact that you are doing it for free.
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>>136657039
the (((Sonic fan)))
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>>136671267
>Bowser isn't Ganon's bitch, both of them are working together under Master Hand. Ganon betrays Bowser but that's in his nature to do so. None of that has anything to do with being a "weak underdog"

Bowser got beat up by heroes he could steam roll and was generally treated like a lackey to the villains of the substwnce story

>No I don't, I prefer her demure and dainty personality where magic is her strength. Don't put words in my mouth

You want her to be another anime waifu character who acts like a token woman with no distinct characteristics than being pretty and fragile. The movie expands out of the women have to be geniunely good beautiful prize wifus, Even Bowser in the movie sees her as cool than just a thing of beauty.

>I'm going to stop replying now because it's clear you're actually handicapped if you think Newgrounds animations had any bearing on the movie

No, but apparently making demure characters into action girls is something alot of fans to in fan fights nowadays. But if you dont think movie peach didnt draw from source material and improved it your're more dumb.
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>>136662754
What happened to Peach is very similar to what happened with Lara Croft. In their eternal seethe about a fine character for some dumb socialpolitical reasoning, their "fix" ended up making the character even more generic in the long run.
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>>136672036
>their "fix" ended up making the character even more generic in the long run.

Game peach was more generic and even literally had no character other than girly magical girl who weak and defenseless without a man.
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>>136670316
Anon, this person has been baiting all over /v/ and /co/. Be prepared that they are just here to waste your time
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>>136660623
of COURSE they play the "I need a hero" song while Mario is training to be a hero. Groan.
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>>136672100
Movie Peach in how she acts, her mannerisms, her body language and how she fights has a plethora of clones in current media, both in games and animated movies. What game or movie in the past decade or two has had any character like Game Peach (outside of Mario itself)? Besides making her character have less unique attributes within the media is the opposite of less generic, movie Peach lost a ton of quirks that actually made her stand out from the cast before, replacing them with attributes we've seen time and time again in current media, objectively making her more generic not just within the greater realm of female heroines but even within the Mario cast itself.
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>>136661951
Great post, I pretty much agree entirely. I could see how a couple of the little sequel baits could be grating to some who are worn out by cinematic universes but eh. I liked it well enough to want to see more probably.
t. Cared enough to download a cam
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>>136660753
No anon is actually pretty correct that in nearly every game Mario has to defeat Bowser via power ups, or using the environment against him (cutting the bridge, throwing him into bombs, tricking him into smashing through the floor, throwing his wind up bombs back at him etc) or using some kind of gimmick of the game like the water gun pack or whatever. Mario can almost never take out Bowser with his basic punches or jumping attack or stand up to him directly.
--- 136672551
Generally speaking I liked it but it's easy to see the flaws. Since it was successful and they were setting up some cinematic universe type shit I'm sure we're bound to see more. It's never ever tier but I would love to see their take on Wario existing in the WarioWare setting. Pretty funny stuff
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>>136672335
>Movie Peach in how she acts, her mannerisms, her body language and how she fights has a plethora of clones in current media, both in games and animated movies.

Its still refreshing compared to game peach which as a fan cant really put her any agency in fanworks outside of being coomerbait or a prop to make her sexy or cute.

>What game or movie in the past decade or two has had any character like Game Peach (outside of Mario itself)? 

Theres that north watertribe chick who had moon powers and served as a mcguffian for Sokka in Avatar the last airbender.

>Besides making her character have less unique attributes within the media is the opposite of less generic, movie Peach lost a ton of quirks that actually made her stand out from the cast before, replacing them with attributes we've seen time and time again in current media, objectively making her more generic not just within the greater realm of female heroines but even within the Mario cast itself.

Again you cant accuse her typecast generic if she was not known for having distinct characterization or personality to begin with. No one in my years as a mario fanbiy held Peach in high esteeem for her character and personality, kinda like Mario. At least Peach in the movie had a relatable side to her alongside Mario. While Mario and Peach acted like Mickey and Minnie.
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>>136657122
>Saw a YouTube comment say that allegedly, an insider who worked on the film
You guys are legitimately retarded. I don't understand how you faggots fall for these "insider leaks" every single time.

>w-well you see the WOKE studio wanted to make Mario a dribbling fucking baffoon, but Based Nippon jumped right in and said "Nu-uh, troons! Not on OUR watch!"
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>>136657075
At least Peach's capabilities made sence contextually. She was raised in the mushroom kingdom, knows all of its workings, and was trained since she was a literal infant to take advantage of her skills and abilities. Is she a mary sue, yeah, but she isn't the main focus of the story and at the end of the day she isn't the one who saves everyone it's a joint effort with Mario and Luigi being the ultimate heroes by the end which is all the more rewarding seeing how helpless they were at first. I get people bitching about Peach but the reality is that this could have been so much worse.
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>>136672628
Let us have hope anon.....
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>>136672707
What? How is that "hope"? It seems like a much better case scenario that this was the movie they intended to make, and (((they))) aren't out to get you in every single thing that's made, doesn't it?
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>>136672691
It helped a lot that she wasn't insulting or obnoxious in her capability, the story had plenty for Mario to accomplish on his own merits and she never scoffed at him or his efforts. If she had a more typical girlboss personality, she would've been utterly intolerable, but the fact that she's got a warm, gentle personality and is willing to treat Mario as simply inexperienced rather than a burden makes a world of difference.
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>>136673023
No, I want to believe that the trannies and woke people got owned. It's not enough that it was simply decided not to include stuff like that for once, I need to believe they can be defeated.
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>>136673660
Think about this: In 15 years, all these kids with sick fuck mothers who forced them to transition are going to discover how fucked they are. It's going to be really ugly.
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The (admittedly off) critic scores really brought out the tendie insecurity squad in full force. The movie isn't worth all that.
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>>136673660
you sound like a right fucking faggot, you know that? It's better tp believe (((they))) control everything so you can eventually win over them than to realize they're not as pervasive as you feared? what a fucking retard. you intentionally look up shit online to make yourself mad, don't you?
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>>136672599
>Its still refreshing compared to game peach
It's not refreshing for a character that used to be more distinct, especially compared to current media depictions, to end up less distinct and more like other current media depictions. You don't know what "refreshing" means
>which as a fan cant really put her any agency in fanworks outside of being coomerbait or a prop to make her sexy or cute.
Fanworks have nothing to do with official depictions. Who cares how a character is portrayed in fan art? Completely irrelevant
>Theres that north watertribe chick who had moon powers and served as a mcguffian for Sokka in Avatar the last airbender.
Honestly never finished watching Avatar so I'll take your word for it, but considering Avatar came out in 2005 I'd say that's a pretty good gap, almost 2 decades
>Again you cant accuse her typecast generic if she was not known for having distinct characterization or personality to begin with.
She does though. No matter how much you claim she doesn't she does. Play any Mario game and it's very easy to observe how Peach is, whether she's just a damsel, in a spin-off/sporting, or proactively a heroine. Just because you don't like her characterization doesn't mean she doesn't have one. The Mario cast are very simple, easy characters to figure out. To say say any of them don't have any character is just cope.
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Peach has been a playable character in platformers, you can win mainline Mario games playing as Peach

Her action scenes were not in violation of Mario canon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaVt_g5HD8 [Embed]
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>>136670931
>I'm 39
jfc grandpa the rest of us really have no chance of escaping this place huh?
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>>136675008

4chan is the only place in which you can still be an anon and not use your real name (or any name at all)
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I’ve been thinking up ideas for a future movie for fun, and I think it’s inevitable that they introduce Wario and Waluigi, as well as Daily. Double the plumbers and princesses Like W and WL see how popular and successful Mario and Luigi are so they decide to become plumbers, but are effectively scam artists. At one point they decide to ruin Mario and Luigi’s reputations in other to make themselves look better so they dress up as the two and start running amok, and despite not really looking all that like them people still buy it and turn on M and L.
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>>136675065
Which is it confuses me that this board has an influx of namefags
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>>136675008
Still some hope, though. He's got kids.
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>>136674738
They're going after Chris Pratt for being a White Christian Man.
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>>136674202
The only ones really insecure are PiB fags for stealing their thunder.
I guess pretentious people prefer panic attacks over fun.
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>>136674202
Mario games get 10/10s across the board every time from ciritcs. Vidya kiddies aren't used to anything less than 9/10.
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>>136675224
I like both Mario and Puss. Suck my dick now.
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>>136657303
This. Audiences need to know that white male leads can still be good guys.
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>>136675260
>italians
>white
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>>136657391
>>136657417
>>136661665
I think it can be pulled off
The guys who dubbed this did a fine job with giving his Martinet voice a bit more range
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>>136674846
>She does though. No matter how much you claim she doesn't she does. Play any Mario game and it's very easy to observe how Peach is, whether she's just a damsel, in a spin-off/sporting, or proactively a heroine. Just because you don't like her characterization doesn't mean she doesn't have one. The Mario cast are very simple, easy characters to figure out. To say say any of them don't have any character is just cope.

She has a typecast 1d trait, not a personality or character. That implies she acts with compariative distinction as a character with agency and perspective(even then all the female princesses have the same kinda of femininity she has with no sort of notable characterization to tell them apart). Game Peach is a silent and otherwise bland token damsel role and has like you said a simple set of quirks consistent to her generic concept through out the series, but that doesnt make her a actual individual.
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>>136656971 (OP)
Same here. Saw it with my mother cause I had nothing better to do. 0% woke trash. 100% Super Mario. It's a pure fun movie that respects the source material. Definitely glad Nintendo put Illumination in their place with this.
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>>136657122
checked
I saw the film. No woke shit in it. It's pure. It really felt like a film from the 2000s, which is a good thing.
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>>136675618
That can’t be because this movie rocked and the 2000s were shit
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>>136675575
>>136675618
>>136675639
cringe
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>>136675652
Woke shit killed TLW
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>>136662754
>She's 1D and a political left projection in the movie tho.
She wasn't. 

She got sucked into the Mushroom kingdom as a baby. The Toadstools raise her as their own. Taught her how to gain powerups & abolities. She eventually trained Mario. You could really sense a connection between Mario & Princess Peach in the movie

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>>136671665
>Even Bowser in the movie sees her as cool than just a thing of beauty
Wasn't his first descriptions of why he liked her centered around her beauty and kindness?
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>>136663572
>Did Luigi need saving or not?
Yes. Dude was sucked into the Dark Worlds
Did Peach take most of the decisions or not?
No. She helped negociated the Kongs to join against the Koopa, but Mario was the one took the biggest risks.
>Did peach showed Mario how to be fucking Mario or not?
Yeah, she trained him the same way the Toadstools trained her. The movie goes in depth into Princess Peach's backstory, but the main focus of the film is Mario.
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>>136675496
Are you fucking kidding, how did I get THAT for the link
HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC0AjJjFO7M [Embed]
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>>136676007
>Mario was the one took the biggest risks.

Its almost like he forced hinself to do the things Peach would have done in his place.
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>>136664679
>in the movie she clearly had depth to her status as princess with her baby flash back
The flashback that showed her doing nothing to deserve being made princess of a whole kingdom?
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>>136676237
Her badassery and being close and loving towards the toads to the point she was like a guardian angel to them isnt enough?
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>>136676265
No because that's after the fact. She was just a baby they found one day, how the hell did she usurp the ruling authority they had before then?
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>>136656971 (OP)
>No politics, no misandry or misogyny.
So we're just going to ignore them having Peach be perfect at the obstacle course as a joke at the expense of Mario failing?
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>>136676328
She also did all that stuff when growing up. She obviously spent most of her life being the princess warrior of the kingdom .
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>>136676401
So make her a champion, that doesn't translate to princess.
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>>136676401
>She obviously spent most of her life being the princess warrior of the kingdom
How the hell did they survive if a teenager is more competent than them?
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>>136676379
to these anons no politics = no niggers or gays in it
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>>136657122
>believing "my uncle works at Nintendo" jokes
>current fucking year
you're a fucking retarded moron if you believe this
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>showing this to your family
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>>136676478
Maybe they have good defenses.
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>>136676983
The movie proved that's wrong.
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>>136672371
Except smash, but that's a whole nother thing.
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>>136660623
There were some interesting mechanics with the karts like dropping gravity for the parachute at whim, or an effort at branching paths. Hijacking karts was a new one.
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>>136677016
Power ups are probaboy better than and walls or sheilds defensively.
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>>136664903
The ice to the cogs half did the job, but plot convenience broke it given Bowser was frozen longer.
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>>136656971 (OP)
This new Mario movie is the most egregious example of dishonest film-making since The Dark Knight
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>>136679597
But their immediate response was to cower and run away. They didn't even try to defend themselves. Toad was suppose to be special because he was brave enough to even fight. It's not like Peach can defend a whole kingdom...or maybe she can cause "girlboss" and all.
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>>136669051
>>136669393
>you won't see Mario or Peach used as villains
paper mario
>Bowser being portrayed as a weak underdog
inside story
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What do think the sequel will most likely feature?
Bowser Jr., Wario or Luigi's Mansionm
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>>136679700
It was easily better than TDK though
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I enjoyed it a bit more than I expected to. Not groundbreaking but I had fun. You know what, sometimes a light-hearted reference heavy stupid movie is what you need to have a good time.
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>>136657883
BITCHESSSS BITCHESSSSSSSSSSS
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>>136676379
>The person living there her whole life was naturally better at an obstacle course simulating her world than a guy who got there about an hour ago
Stop the presses
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>>136680653
Sung by the inshell incel
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>>136656971 (OP)
based
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>>136680766
>you drived for most of your life
>this means you would be able to navigate an obstacle course with all kinds of hazards back to back perfectly on your first try
Pull the other one anon.
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>>136679935
>Luigi's Mansion
That’d be its own spin-off.
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>>136657391
>Charles Martinet's Mario is too comical. The voice wouldn't have worked for the sad/serious scenes.
>"My-a Papa is-a disappointed in-a me! Mama Mia!"
Man, good thing there are never any sad or serious Italians in the real world.
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>>136660539
>This idiot goes into Bowser fights without any power ups
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>>136680766
You left out the fact that she did it on her first try.
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>>136683191
When she was a teen. It’s shown in the flashback. She was doing shit like that for years growing up and had the obstacle course built to test out her skills. That’s why she got it in the first try.
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>>136674946
NOOO ONLY DAMSEL
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>>136656971 (OP)
I'm sorry, Peach was feminist and it sucked.
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>>136656971 (OP)
Yeah it was fun, the dialogue felt like it could have been funnier or snappier though
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>>136680106
maybe, but they're both dishonest and should have never seen the light of day
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>>136679700
>>136685378
How are they dishonest
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>>136685499
Cinematography becomes dishonest when it betrays itself for same sort of self indulgence you see in a video game cutscene (it looks like assasin's creed II). It's dishonest as it is clearly unmediated by Scorceses's aesthetic pulse (of which there is little) and attempts to reach for grandeur in a world of cheap video game virtue graphics and shitty epileptic colour deisgn created to appeal to people below the age of 30. If you think I'm being ironic then you are clearly that same audience which damns any thought as contrarian when it simply runs perpendicular to their idle minded capeshit meta narrative.
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>>136685665
Why do I feel like this is copy pasta?
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>>136685378
This! Nothing from the west should ever be released; it's all dishonest.
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>>136685665
But Mario is neither capeshit nor meta.
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>>136683874
>I'm sorry, Peach was feminist and it sucked.
translation:
>I'm sorry, Peach wasn't treated as an object or prize to be won but rather a human being, and it sucked.
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>>136685724
>>136685799
It’s a /tv/ meme
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>>136685799
it betrays itself to indulge in scenes that resemble a video game
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>>136656971 (OP)
>It was just a goofy, fun movie.

is this the excuse for unapologetically consuming literal goyslop?
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>>136685902
…Because it was based on a video game series.
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>>136685905
The movie didn't make me feel like shit or try to explain how I'm a bad person because I'm le white man. 

It didn't have an agenda. 

I didn't feel awful watching it.

It was fun.
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>>136685905
That would be Dreamworks, Sony, Pixar, etc. Mario isn't woke.
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>>136657531
Bowser is a simp though, that's kind of his whole deal.
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>>136685959
and because of it, Illumination felt they had the green light to make the most dishonest film of all time
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>>136685902
>>136686043
You're just going into bot levels of repeating yourself are you?
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>>136685974
This. Compared to Puss in Boots, I didn't walk away angry and actually had a fun time.
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>>136656971 (OP)
>no misandry 
Whole movie shat on mario and made peach look untouchable
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>>136656971 (OP)
>No politics, no misandry or misogyny.
>thread ends up devolving into politics anyways
For once, OP wasn't the fag.
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>>136686107
I didn't walk away angry from Puss either. Same with Top Gun Maverick. It's just fun movies.
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>>136686178
Puss was very woke and more girlboss than SMB. At least that movie and Top Gun Maverick had relatable white male protagonists.
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>>136686216
Movies like Alien and Lord of the Rings: Return of The King are girlboss too, and we love those movies.

Why is this any different?
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>>136686256
>we 
You don't speak for all of us.
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>>136674946
>Peach has been a playable character in platformers
We know, this has never been up for debate
>you can win mainline Mario games playing as Peach
We know, this has never been up for debate

Please don't jump into arguments you clearly do not understand. There's a reason no one was angry at Peach being playable in the very recently released Mario + Rabbids (one of her best portrayals as of recent, by the way)
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>>136657017
That's my main problem with it.

As a movie that pays homage to the history of Mario it's filled to the brim.

As a movie that is attempting to be something that is meant to be watched it's completely forgettable.
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To me this movie illuminated the difference between "faithful adaptation" and "acknowledging the source". This is the latter, possibly to the detriment of actually being a competent movie sometimes.

Sonic throws itself on the other end of the spectrum but at least because of that it feels like a movie that has some meat to sink one's teeth into, even if the source is not deeply respected.
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>>136686256
Ripley is not a girlboss Im going to put a facehugger on you
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>>136657303
But Mario's skills throughout the movie were basically being able to swallow a mushroom. Whereas Peach was stronger than anybody but Bowser without any power up. 

So, crazy thought here, rather than going through all the mess of getting Mario a powerup so that he can barely keep up, uh, give it to Donkey Kong and have him wreck Bowser? He put a good fight without any power ups already. Or you, Peach, you take the power up and try not to do a 1v100 so that you actually have an easy win?

Mario was pathetic, and that's the woke part of the movie. Cannot let the white man be capable. Mario was literally Luigi, Luigi was Peach, and Peach was Daisy. There was basically no Mario in this Super Mario movie.