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Why do Japanese devs write their main characters with zero libido?
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NO WAY FAG
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is this why birth rates are low?
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>>634293465
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>>634293418 (OP)
nwf.webm
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>>634293418 (OP)
never, and I can't stress this enough, NEVER bang your bro's sister
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>>634293585
Noct! You're the last chance for the Amicitia line to prosper!!
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He only has eyes for Lunafreya
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>>634293418 (OP)
Libido is reserved for side characters and antagonists.
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>>634293504
lol
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>>634293418 (OP)
One word Fujos
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>>634293418 (OP)
bro code
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>>634293418 (OP)
Japs have a permanent case of the juvenile "sex is embarrassing" mindset so asexual = cool
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FF devs never allow their characters to fuck OP
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>>634293504
Nice, very good, thank you anon
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>>634293418 (OP)
You forget he only has eyes for his waifu.
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>>634293418 (OP)
Meanwhile weebsona and sengoku rance
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>>634293418 (OP)
Nocis is already engaged to that bland as fuck Luna, which is why he NWF's the superior Iris
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>>634293418 (OP)
what's with the spergout double handjob animation?
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>>634293418 (OP)
noctis is already married you retarded mutt
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>>634293418 (OP)
Iris deserved so much better
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>>634294318
have you seen the faces and heard the sounds people make during sex? it IS embarrassing
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>>634295163
the only thing that ugly ho deserves is a boot to the face
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>>634294552
He's a King. Isn't he allowed some mistresses on the side?
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>>634293472
along with the crushing worklife, impossible standards to meet with women and the increasing likelyhood that any retirement savings you have won't mean shit when inflation soon soars? 
yes, that is why japan will soon become westernized, simply because the ones holding their culture together are dying in droves
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>>634295163
>Iris deserved so much better

so does Noctis. He deserved a better love interest and a better game
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>>634295383
I never thought 15 was bad. The end game is frustrating sometimes with tonberrys and damage sponge bullshit but the practically infinite potion and phoenix down spam made it super easy
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Maehiro, if these two don't hook up I swear...
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>>634295513
>I never thought 15 was bad.
did you play the base version or the Royal version?

>with tonberrys and damage sponge bullshit
I just nuked them with grenades since they and the Courels are basically the only thing "Hold O to win" doesn't work on

> but the practically infinite potion and phoenix down spam made it super easy
casual pandering, just like Tabata wanted
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>>634295252
>Using your friend's sister as a cumrag
You should kill yourself
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Iris is cute, CUTE
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>>634293418 (OP)
Because they are like me
Pure boys
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>>634295527
Its already confirmed they cuck themselves after being naked
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>>634293418 (OP)
Play more games from women
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He's retaining his vril energy. That's why he's the protagonist and you're an npc
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>>634293418 (OP)
Same reason they write them full of homoerotic undertones
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>>634295252
>yo can we ride chocobos?
>yea, you get to go on the cool birds
>get off to check something out
>rented chocobos ended, have to walk all the way up the mountain
Why does the king have to rent a chocobo? you'd think he would have people on payroll to bring him one whenever he wanted no?
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>>634293418 (OP)
Isn't noctis a sheltered dork with little social interaction outside of his caretakers whose concept of romance is based on his arranged marriage?
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>>634298569
yes
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>>634298330
He has no kingdom left, did you even play the game?
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>>634295163
Gladio would break his spine if Noctis broke her heart
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>tfw Aranea is wasted on this game
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>>634293418 (OP)
>picks an engaged man as an example
Dumbfuck.
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>>634298703
there are plenty of people devoted to serving royals, plenty you meet during the game, a chocobo breeder should've been one of them
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>>634293585
Elaborate
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>>634293418 (OP)
>>634293504
In japa , innocent Girl that says "yamete" and does not enjoy sex is more attractive than slut who loves sex.
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>>634293472
perhaps
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>>634299642
they love rape
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>>634298242
>is this a jojo refrence
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>>634293504
>>634293418 (OP)
no way fag
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>>634293418 (OP)
The only FF protagonist that has libido is Bartz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4dLphBlF20 [Embed]
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>>634293418 (OP)
Because no one wants to see the MC fucking these cute, pure waifus.
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>>634293418 (OP)
Labido shows you only want sex, which is shameful in life you have to be successful before you get the sex so you can look after a good child. 

Labido Is for the blackman who has no self control. You are not an out of control black man are you annon?


This is the way of thinking most men have except the part about the black man.
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>>634301928
this annon fears the black man's genitalia
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>tfw bought the royal complete niggerfucking edition on Steam but I literally never played it once

Is this game any good? I heard you have to watch some shitty movies and play some mobile games to get the full story and this kinda turns me off.
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>>634298242
you are a closed homo
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>>634302364
its good, but messy

you dont NEED the movie or anything, they do add context.
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I don not care for ff15 but I agree Iris, Aranea, and Cindy are cute and deserve better.
>>634295383
Noctus is part of dissida nt. So I can never like him unless he dress up like el mariachi
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>>634293418 (OP)
Isn't he literally married?
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>>634302828
Lunafreya is barely a character so the marriage doesn't count.
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>>634295527
Theres something really odd about her face... its like an egg
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>>634293418 (OP)
She's 17, you absolute degenerate.
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>>634303738
out of 10
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>>634293418 (OP)
God, I can't begin to tell you people how much I wanted to FUCK Iris! I mean, I just wanted to absolutely destroy her all night until the break of dawn. 

SEX WITH IRIS! SEXO SEXO SEXO AJKASNDFJKDASNJFKASJKFAS
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>>634294318
Sex is not only embarrassing its god damn disgusting
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sexual desire takes up the same area of the brain as things like aggression or fighting spirit
having sex makes you fight worse overall and that is not an option
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>>634303961
our boy was here a couple of days ago.
amazing how good that thread was without Barry.
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>>634294318
Bro whut? Japanese have a permanent case of the juvenile "can't stop thinking about sex" which is why their anime and games are plagued with coomer pandering.
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>>634303961
So who's the luck guy?
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>>634303961
I'm so horny and lonely bros
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>>634303056
Agreed. I think FF16 looks good overall but this character is just funny looking.
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>>634304698
me
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>>634303961
what's this?
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>>634303056
All the main cast girls in FF16 have the same face. Expect several eggs.
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>>634303056
Wouldn't be surprised if they came upon a bug they couldn't fix and literally deepfaked it in post-production. It's either that or do it the bioware way: put a helmet on the character that you'll never actually see ever again or in the case of ME:A literally just show your character holding a gun backwards and hope for the best. Can't put a helmet on your waifubait, it's japan we're talking about, and boogeyman face is also out of the question so they ran it through Wombo or something.
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>>634305042
It's love, anon
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>>634305507
I can't tell if she's shlicking herself or jerking her huge futa cock. It's tearing me apart.
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>>634305796
she's jerking you off you retard
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>>634293418 (OP)
Your brain is just porn rotten.
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>>634306114
How am I supposed to know that when it's cropped?
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>>634306214
by her arm motions, she's pulling towards her, if she were jerking herself she would be pulling forward
have you never been jerked off before?
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>>634302471
I'm not the one playing that shit
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>>634293418 (OP)
EHHHHH
NANI NANI?
D-D-DATEO?
A-A-ANO...ETOOOOOOOOO..
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEYAAAAAAAAA
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>>634303860
Yeah, 15 had some good character models
>>634305796
Have you ever gotten a hand job from a chick?
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>>634306587
Im playing comrades and i made a complete qt
Character models in 15 were one of the best features of the game
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He's obviously playing it cool. It's a perfectly common flirting method.
There's all kinds of ways you can flirt. Act aloof, act goofy, act ornery. I do childish shit like "got yer nose," and every once in a while it doesn't make someone insanely uncomfortable.
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>>634303961
>When she pumps air into your bike's tyre
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>>634303961
God bless this man.
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>>634293418 (OP)
>Royal reveals that she's still in love with Noctis even after he was trapped in the crystal and she likely still will be after his death at the end
Will her suffering ever end?
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>>634305042
Google LazyProcrastinator
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>>634293418 (OP)
>japenese """"ACTING"""""
YOOOOOOOO
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>>634293418 (OP)
You dumb simp whose life revolve around females should kys
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>>634307480
I played the game at launch and beat it, haven’t touched it since. Does Royal add a lot of story content?
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The teenage boys they market to are sexless so they make their MC's sexually stunted so they can relate better. If blacks and Latinos were making MC's, the MC's would be playboys.
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>>634298724
Remember when Gladio called Noctis a pussy for being sad Luna died? They just kind of brushed past that.
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>>634293418 (OP)
Noct is literally on his way to get married
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>>634307635
>If blacks and Latinos were making MC's, the MC's would be playboys.
This.
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>>634293465
>>634293504
Leon earns the no way fag by being cool the whole game, Noctis is a fucking mopey little bitch pussyboy
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>>634307275
Her expression in the original was way better.
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>>634293472
When you look at native populations, Japan's birth rates aren't that far below other developed countries'. It's only when you add in immigrants and look at the populations as a whole that Japan falls behind. That stuff about Japan being xenophobic is no joke.
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>>634295252
What is a 15 year old girl doing with a group of adult men?
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>>634307983
Trying to get cock.
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>>634293418 (OP)
that's his bro's sister, this game revovles around the bros
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>>634308131
would you deny your bro your sister?
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>>634295374
you're mixing it up, ir's not japan that's getting westernized, it's us that getting japanized, they're just ahead in term of demographic, economical and social downfall. Except they don't have hordes of violent brown mongrels reproducing like pests inside their country which makes the west even more fucked in comparison
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>>634304647
their birth rates are among the lowest in the world
the nips do not fuck
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>>634293418 (OP)
Real men on their purpose doing actually important things like saving the world.
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>>634308452
yep. look at zoomer males, they're increasingly withdrawn and submissive
japan is correctly not "fixing" their population problem by importing dozens of millions of niggers, and all the vampire lizards are screeching that japan will "implode!" if they don't.
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>>634308386
yeah,cuz shes mine to creampie.
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>>634302930
For people who complain about the modern degeneracy, you strangely accept this kind of behaviour.
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>>634307010
>There's all kinds of ways you can flirt. Act aloof, act goofy, act ornery.
Gee how'd you know all this stuff anon
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>>634293646
I mean, he's the last of the royal line and with Luna AWOL for their wedding. It would have been Iris's duty as protector of the Lucis bloodline to continue the royal bloodline.
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>>634293418 (OP)

Could it be related to the "you're supposed to say no and show no interest" part of Japanese culture? For example, someone offers you something nice, could be even food, you're supposed to say no/try not to bother, then the person is supposed to insist until you finally relent and accept it. But you wanted it from the beggining, it's just how you're supposed to act. 

I can see this being directly related to the way characters act towards sex in their media. Even perverted ecchi anime commonly have characters who are all wanting to bang each other but when the situation arises they act awkward and pretend they have no interest. There are two things at play here I think:
1- That aspect of their culture. They have TV shows which appeal to eroticism and women doing silly sexy things, but they'd never openly say "I want to bang X person" live, would they? I have never seen it. 
2- If it's a videogame or other piece of media they want to sell to a broad audience, it's a way to not have sex be part of it regardless of the feelings of the characters. Sex only sells if you're not trying to get kids into it too, etc.

These together relegate sexually to udnertones and sexual tension, but nothing more than that most of the time, unless you go straight to hentai/porn.
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Every once in a while there's some anime/manga vet like Miyazaki, Satoshi Kon(back when he was alive), or Mamoru Oshii giving some interview and they'll often talk about the modern state of anime/manga and one recurring theme is the idea that creators often don't have much external experience or interest in things outside of a narrow purview. So you have this enormous feedback loop where people that only read manga and write manga/LNs only pull ideas from other manga/LNs hence enormous gluts of fantasy light novels where every universe runs on RPG logic give or take isekai and everything is conveniently organized into a nebulous "adventurer's guild."
So at some point there's this divorce between "sexy eroticism," e.g. something like Lupin III or City Hunter where the girls are all sexy and the MC is clearly interested in sex, to your nervous-around-girls-but-still-kinda-interested-MCs or your contemporary "guy that just kinda exists around women as a self-insert but you gotta fill in the blank yourself" where the girls all have these sexy or eye-catching designs or are just blatant coomerbait but the male character that could purportedly be a love interest is basically asexual or figuratively a robot. Or series that just don't even bother with a male MC at this point.
I wouldn't be surprised if the situation is true for Japanese vidya devs, too overworked and sheltered to even think about sex outside of a fap session. Or aiming at an audience of guys too shy to talk to a girl.
>literally me

That aside, there's stuff like Nintendo that's never been particularly interested in sex, it being generally irrelevant and a waste of space for their narrative light games. That and the surge of Japanese parents' groups in the late 80s and 90s complaining about heavy sexualization in manga and anime for stuff aimed at kids/teenagers probably also had devs a bit reserved. Keep your head down and make that money.
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>>634302364
It's a complete mess but the Royal Edition at least filled some gaps. I couldn't stand it. 

VersusXIII/FFXV is the biggest failed of a project at SE since the merge. Not the first fuck up though, just the biggest. SE SUCKS at managing and producing games. Years spent on a project that they couldn't put together until they decided to just take bits and pieces of ideas and throw some last minute glue in order to release a product and seem some of the money they lost back. Contrary to what crazy people might say on 4chan or elsewhere, the fault lies with several people at SE, not with a specific director or another. Clear case of development hell that only gets to this point when the incompetence comes from several sources, top down.
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>>634309624
Yeah, like... Tabata didn't exactly do a great job, but given what he had to work with, it's a surprise the game is even semi-okay.
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>>634293418 (OP)
It's a cultural difference as far as I know. I was told—and this might be bullshit but, I believe it—that the kind of conversations that are commonplace for close friends in the West are largely seen as romantic conversations for those in Japan. 
I.E. talking about your past, your feelings, your deepest thoughts or vulnerabilities is often seen as a thing that close friends can do with one another in Europe in America, whereas in Japan that's typically reserved for romantic interests (at least when it comes to fiction), and so it creates this odd effect for Western viewers where two people seemed to have zero chemistry and then suddenly fell in love with one another, but to a Japanese audience it's evident that there was a spark between then.
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>>634309296
I've heard the same criticism levelled at writers in the West too, namely that they're all devoid of life experiences and tend to just ape on something that already exists or write-what-they-know, except that they know nothing about the world beyond their own assumptions or limited experiences, and so you end up with rather disconnected or boring writing that seems very simplistic or droll.
It certainly feels like that criticism can apply to some media like video games or TV shows here in the West.
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>>634311704
On the West it has been commented already that very few artists nowadays come from working class backgrounds.

Writers, actors, directors... they tend to come from high middle-class or high class backgrounds, straight from an education in fancy universities on humanities.

Not too long ago writers were commonly working men with some profession that they just happened to have something to say and talent for saying it. That seems to be disappearing. They're still here, but less and less.
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>>634293418 (OP)
reflection of the self
you cannot write what you do not know yourself
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Choose
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>>634312205
Aranea.
It's not even a discussion, she's so fucking superior to every other girl in the game. If FFXV hadn't been such a fucking mess she would be a top FF girl.

I liked Iris and Cid as well but still, no comparison.
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>>634312205
Iris > Luna > Cindy > Gentiana > Aranea
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>>634308482
Low birth rates aren't an indication that they're not fucking, they do but it's too expensive to raise a child there.
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>>634312307
>the man with no taste
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>>634301464
Bro Tidus talked to Wakka about fucking Yuna, and then later fucked Yuna while Kimahri watched
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>>634293418 (OP)
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>>634301464
Cloud and Tifa fucked while Barret and Cid watched
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>>634312283
disgusting. you are supposed to choose a GF not a buddy
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>>634293418 (OP)
Because being direct is cringe in area eleven. Jappos love being obtuse as possible, and letting your desires be known makes you seem weak, as you can't control/hide them. In the vast majority of jap media, anyone who openly likes women/sex is a villain, or treated like shit by the cast for comic relief. The MC is fine to have a harem though, since he doesn't openly want to fuck.
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>>634293418 (OP)
FFXV main cast was mainly written to appeal to fujoshi who prefer gay men.
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>>634294252
This game could have been truly special.
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We want the kpop audience...
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>>634313372
In another life, perhaps.
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>>634313654
>k-pop

That's Jpop boy bands. What fucking kpop band you ever seen look like that? You might get dyed hair but the actual haircuts are all pretty reserved.
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>>634303961
>long-haired Iris
Eh.
Lazyprocrastinator's animations are great on a technical level but he lacks imagination. No body variation, same poses, boring blowjobs, etc.
His Luna and Gentiana double BJ was pretty fucking great though.
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>>634312940
My GF is my best buddy.
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look prompto go in the back lol
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>>634312205
Iris is the cutest while Cindy is the close second.
I still can't believe how Luna ended up turning out considering she's mogged at both design and overall impact by everyone else.
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>>634314828
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>>634293418 (OP)
this is common with japanese media. Lecherous scenes very welcome, but the male protagonist can under no circumstances be reciprocal or pursuing and is always bound by the perception that doing so will mean taking advantage of the woman
You will also find zero boners in most manga, except for the occasional kanojo o-kari shimasu author
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>>634294318
>embarrassing
No, just disgusting and base as hell. Any man that rises above his own desires is always worthy of respect.
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>>634315262
well ok trashy manga from a decade ago are definitely the opposite of this. Well anyway my subjective impression is most modern stuff is herbivore nice guy shit
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>>634304647
liking sexy ladies is not the same as thinking about sex. total virgins still get thrilled by ladies even when they don’t know how sex works
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aranea slap noctis

do someone have the gif of aranea stepping in noctis chest after failing the aerial combo?
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>>634315692
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>>634315262
>You will also find zero boners in most manga
the nosebleed in manga is supposed to be understood as the character having a boner without being explicit.
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LazyP’s loli Luna is god tier, wish he would do more
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>>634312283
my man
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>>634307964
>t. whitey nipponese who doesn't live in japan
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>>634294318
this
>>634304647
no

I work with japs and "sexual" media is no longer popular. 
Trans and assexuals way more popular.
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I never finished 15 since it was so incomplete and by the time it was "done" i didn't care any more, did any of the updates ever make it so you can keep Iris and Aranea in the party like that one glitch?
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>>634308482
Stop pushing for this fucking meme, europeans and americans also have lower birth rate. The only reason it's high is because niggers and muslims are outbreeding the rest.
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>>634295252
The driving was the best part of this trash game. Someone needs to make a game that involves driving like this, but is actually...you know...good.
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>>634293418 (OP)
What you see in Japan is the future of the west too.. Young people do not have sex. Seems like once Culture peak its get into sucide mode. And since it is occur again and again it is waste of time fighting it.
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>>634322734
>What you see in Japan is the future of the west too..
You must be Japanese.
You are the only poster here who gets it.
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gay western "fans" would through shit fit
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>>634293418 (OP)
The only power men can exercise over women is denying them sex.

oh wait its the opposite lol but men oppressed????
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>>634295374
there a specific reason why SK is even worse?
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>>634293418 (OP)
Because Japanese men know how to compartmentalize.
Sex for pleasure = bad 
Sex for procreation and family = good
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>>634293465
>>634307860
Leon is clearly flirty with Ada. He just didn't want to fuck Ashley
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>>634312205
Cindy
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>>634293418 (OP)
They're written with zero libido for one reason.
One simple reason.
People on the internet will start screaming and crying whenever a MALE character gets a girlfriend and/or has sex.
They start saying stupid shit like
>MARY SUE
>SELF INSERT
>IT SHOULD BE ME, NOT HIM
Without even realizing that the true mary sue has always been the female characters they simp for
They also complain when players are given a choice in who to pick when it comes to relationships in RPG games, a genre that is supposed to be about making your own choices.
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>>634325306
Kaguya proved this in a way.
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>>634307983
that might be hard to grasp for an american but in most of the world 15 year old girls have sex with men in the age range of 16-22years old and thats considered legal.
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>>634325306
>the true mary sue has always been the female characters they simp for
Always has been.
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>>634310274
People can't forget the whole Fabula Nova Cristalis thing. Versus13 was just a part of it, and the whole thing pretty much failed. FF13 released to mixed reception and after that shit just got worse. Devs couldn't decide exactly what they wanted Verssu13 to be, they kept changing shit, coming up with ideas all of the time, but failing to create an actual game from it. You can see from interviews and what Nomura would say about his ideas. 

The big guys at SE lost their touch a long time ago. What happened with FNC was very similar to The Spirits Within. They went too big, too full of themselves, and got burned. They ended up releasing more FF13 sequels instead of achieving success with the 3 games they wanted at first: FF13, Agito and Versus13. And having directors like Nomura working on several projects at once, with the guy saying he got surprised when he saw his name as director of a big project in a fucking trailer, shows how crazy SE higher-ups are.
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>>634304698
You, anon. You were the one getting his dick jerked all along.
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https://discord.gg/P66BmMhC
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>>634327440
I'm not clicking that shit.
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>>634293418 (OP)
Sex is boring and overrated. Westerners can't comprehend this simple truth because they're constantly involuntarily celibate due to their women being the privileged caste in the society.
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>>634325549
>implying Fatal Bullet isn't good
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>>634299642
We are talking about the male protagonist here, not about the girl
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>>634294318
would I be the most desirable Chad in Japan then? Wtf.
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>>634301464
Cecil canonically impregnates Rosa, though.
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I don't get why they would push for higher graphical fidelity andgo with borderline realism in their approach to rendering to the point where most of the characters become stiff as boards in motion and then still think to add some cliche anime tier animation. It's so unbelievably jarring to look at.
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>>634325420
Idc what your country says. Kids below 18 can't consent
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everyone is depressed there. i know from experience what its like. My gf always wants to fuck but most of the time i dont feel up for anything
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>>634329441
The UN says otherwise.
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>>634293418 (OP)
It's funny because I used to think like this when I was a virgin like "why wouldn't you jump all over her and hit that!?". Then I actually worked out, became relatively attractive, began having more regular contact with women, and had sex, and now I get it.
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They like the idea of an MC who has several attractive females he could potentially fuck, without having to make any special effort. The possibility of several women is more attractive than the actuality of fucking one or more.
 An MC that fucks several women with no regards for their feelings can no longer be considered pure or heroic in an innocent sense.
 An MC that fucks just one is now in a relationship, which makes the other girls look bad for wanting him.
 Thus, the easiest thing is to make him a clueless retard with no interest in sex. In a more meta sense, it also allows the self-inserting otaku to have his own favorite girl without being saddled to another.
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>>634324908
How come so few games end with the hero having a big family, then?
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>>634325053
And for good reason, Ada's fucking hot.
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>>634329823
>The easiest thing
Maybe if you're FUCKING LAME.
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it's just "not cool" basically
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>>634307983
It may be a shocking discovery for you, but girls want to date adult men from the age of twelve. My girlfriend is now 16, I started dating her when she was 15.
37-year-old boomer
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I hate that they couldn’t be bothered to make the time skip models for Cindy and Iris so you never see them before everyone decided to go on a suicide mission in Insomnia.
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>>634293418 (OP)
Because Lunafreya is fucking cute and he's getting married.
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>>634331205
keyed
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>>634293418 (OP)
Noctis is just the most boring protag in existence.
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>>634332195
>Lunafreya

literally who
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>>634329342
FF XV have some good animations

see
>>634315063
>>634315692
>>634316330
>>634314828
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>>634293418 (OP)
god this game sucks
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>>634324758
they took the crushing worklife element and amped it up to 500% more with kids studying from 8 to 23 everyday since grade school for a mind numbing corporate slave job 50 hours a week. Couple that with the rampant feminism that makes the US look like saudi arabia in comparison and you have the well named "Hell Joseon"
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>>634332671
yeah I tried royal edition recently and it was still shit
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>>634332413
Poor man's Stella.
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>>634332745
>Stella

literally whomst
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>>634327003
>and then anon was cummies
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>>634293418 (OP)
Their games are made for children 

Children don't have libidos
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>>634324758
SK Japan turned up to 11. The country is unironically a Cyberpunkian hellscape. If you do not work for Samsung or at the very least one of Samsung's contractors you may as well not exist.

Your job is EVERYTHING there. If you don't have what can be considered a "good job" you are basically less than human. Because of that kids regularly have 12+ hour school days due to insane homework load, cram school, club activity, etc. They have iirc one of the highest youth suicide rates. And young adults aren't ignorant, they went through that shit, they don't want to subject their kids to the same insanity. Which is why they either have no kids or rather leave for the US or Europe to raise a family in a more relaxed environment.

Hell, Japan is basically the most liberal country (in every sense of the word) in the entire world region. Porn in SK for example is straight up forbidden. Not just censored. Banned in it's entirety. It's a crime. Which is why SK MMOs in particular go HARD on skimpy "armors" for the female cast. They try to be as much porn in such a sexually repressed society as they can without being porn.
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>>634332413
Lazy's actress
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>>634303056
i think its the lighting but im not sure - the faces are really low detail for some reason
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>>634303056
Poor art direction.
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>you don't see the girls after the timeskip

what a waste of fucking time
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>>634331205
HOLY FVKING ZASED.......
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>>634293418 (OP)
the game's macguffin is finding this royal kid's fiance. iris is cute but not only is it his buddy's little sister but getting with her would end his fucking life.
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>>634334017
Doesn't finding his fiancée end his fucking life anyway?
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>>634333209
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>>634334784
i think she's cute
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>>634308452
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>>634334891
i think she's kinda mid
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>>634293418 (OP)
Everyone is sexy but no one wants to have sex. It's just the trend for modern media in general.
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>>634293418 (OP)
You just play faggy games, that's why
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>>634312205
Cindy and only her.
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>>634293418 (OP)
>iris becomes a badass demon slayer post timeskip
>never actually seen, not even in the canceled DLC concept
Lame
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>>634328570
>It's good because no Kirito! I hate Kirito!
>Proceed to play as someone who is worse than Kirito in every way, but has the most retarded people on earth as orbiters plus a negative IQ AI
Haha... yeah...
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>>634339231
That's nice but I was talking more about the gameplay world and OST. 'twas fun
https://youtu.be/01MKxMAvSkA [Embed]
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>>634295527
ngl that girl just looks lame. honestly makes me not want to play the game
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>>634303056
to be fair its realistic as there's definitely girls with faces like that

but yea not necessarily attractive
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>>634295374
uh wasnt japans problem always deflation?
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>>634295527
god dang Clve's ready to FUCK
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>>634293418 (OP)
It would alienate the mostly herbivore audience. And it's probably the actual truth.
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>>634293418 (OP)
>mainstream media shows people being weirdly asexual or just retardedly obtuse about sex and relationships
>porn shows women basically being raped with the screeching and no sense of enjoying themselves
>hentai and other eroge is mostly about females getting gang raped or ntr shit
What went wrong with Japan?
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>>634341512
Much.
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>>634307860
Noctis Dad dies, then his wife dies, then he caused his best friend to go blind

His life kinda goes to shit real quick. Mopeyness excused
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>>634293465
Literally the first thing I though
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>>634308881
Op is a confused virgin and I was politely helping him. Thanks for posting.
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did this or 13 killed final fantasy?
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>>634293418 (OP)
I dunno man, maybe it's because they're just really into anime and manga and that's just the way those stories are usually written? I mean, have you seen any Japanese games or shows with characters who are openly sexual or have strong libidos? It's not like they're trying to hide something or anything, it's just a cultural thing I guess
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>>634345178
13 killed it.
10 was just the next step logically from 7,8,9, and then 12 was an attempt at playing to wrpg sensibilities with shit like bringing back free roam and rtwp combat. 13 was when they decided that Advent Children WASN'T the gayest fucking thing they ever made and tried to redefine the franchise as a long ass, highpoly movie.
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>>634331205
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>>634345178
11 killed it a little. 12 killed it a little more. 13 a little more. 14 a lot more. 15 a lot more. 16 is finishing the job.
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>>634345778
13 14(v1.0) 15 are contributed 
the only reason anyone cares about 16 is because the team that salvaged 14 and made it good are behind it
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can I get a qrd on 15? what's good and what's bad about it?
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>>634304647
Lol only among weebs you retard, or did you really think the average Japanese man knows what the fuck konosuba is?
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>>634293418 (OP)
Well the extreme opposite would be in your face hedonism and debauchery which objectively makes for worse writing and entertainment. You filthy ass backwards freak.
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>>634345881
10 was the start of the decline. No overworld. Seems like they lost the guy who added the real soul to the games
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>>634345881
11 was really popular at the time though. Shit only just very recently got put into maintenance mode.
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>>634346192
12 brought back the overworld though, along with the Ivalice setting. I think that was an upward tick, and then 13 is when the whole thing just wasn't recognizable anymore.
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>>634325306
it used to be
>men get all the sex in fiction because of juvenile fantasies

now it's
>men don't get sex in fiction because immature manbabies will get mad

We've come full circle.
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>>634293504
does something weird happen to you in your 30's bros? for some reason i just want to impregnate everything that walks.
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>>634345952
>Good
Music

>Bad
Everything else.

kinda the same thing for 13
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>>634346192
Fair enough.
>>634346327
Popularity is not the issue.
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>>634293418 (OP)
To appeal to NEETs who are too socially awkward to even begin to imagine someone with a girl
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>>634346541
oh is the issue that people really thinking they only played these games just for the turn-based combat and overworlds and not the music characters story or world-building?
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>>634308482
nice try jew
refugees are not welcome
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>>634346702
nostalgiafags btfo
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>>634293418 (OP)
he doesn't have zero libido, he has oneitis and a little bit of gay on the side.
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>>634346439
Historically most men didn't live long past that point so it's probably partly your biology telling you to leave offspring
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>>634335392
I think she's pretty bro, a bro I'd like to fuck
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>>634346439
Yes, It's called a biological clock. It doesn't just apply to women. Children born to men over the age of 40 have exponentially higher chances of being born autistic/retarded etc.
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>>634325549
it's crazy how good the light novel is compared to sao anime
dropped it somewhere after they reunited with alice cause i caught up
is there more to read now?
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>>634341512
>>634341814
Nothing. Kill yourself, pearl-clutching muttgroid.
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>>634293418 (OP)
>>634293472
>>634293504
>>634293465
>>634293510
>>634294318
Dude she's 15 years old. He's 21. Yeah yeah it's Vidya yeah not real but still. It's creepy.
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>>634295252
Adultery is a sin.
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>>634346702
Yes, people played the games because they enjoyed the gameplay. Your schizo head-canon does not apply to reality.
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>>634348573
>thinking religious rules are for kings
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>>634319957

No he’s right. The birth rate among white Europeans is even lower than Japan’s, they just have high immigrant birth rates to mask that
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>>634293472

Let's export brown people there, what would solve it :D
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>>634348598
>people played FF solely for the tun0-based combat

absolutely beyond delusional 
thats why people played dq because it actually did that well unlike ff
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>>634348837
What? You seriously think that people played and praised the old games without enjoying the gameplay?
This is very strange. Explain more of your schizo head-canon, please.
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>>634349108
people played for the story and music
dvd menus are not gameplay my dude
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>>634294634
This is the pathetic truth. Noctis could have repopulated his pops bloodline EASY. But instead gets NTR'd by watching the villain penetrate his wife.
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>>634349282
Ah, that's the depth of it then...disappointing. Well, believe what you want to believe. Turn-based enjoyers, old and new, will keep enjoying turn-based games.
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>>634349282
>dvd menus are not gameplay my dude

based and truthpilled
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>>634349108
>replying to B*rry
--- 634350272
ffxv is the best ff and sold the most in the franchise and is the most successful entry
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>>634312205
Aranea Plus Cindy. Luna's cute too. Gentiana as Shiva if she counts.
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>>634337776
>Get In

:o
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>>634312205
they are all the best girls in the franchise
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>>634348573
Tell that to King David and his son, Solomon. Literally had hundreds of sluts on the side - concubines and God never once said it was bad. Adultery is taking someone ELSE's wife/property. If they are YOURS to begin with, then it's fine to have a harem. This is biblical.
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>>634350457
Aside from Tifa and maybe Ashe or Fran, I am inclined to agree. Cindy, Aranea and Shiva are top tier waifus
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>>634350272
No. But it's a decent game. I preferred it to 8, 2, 3, 5 or the mmos.
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>>634350658
nah they are better than any ff girls
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>>634350791
nope ffxv is the best one cope harder xivtroon
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>>634350967
he literally said he liked 15 more than 14 retard
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>>634350967
Moron.

Who is this imbecile that shows up in every FF15 thread to shit it up by over-hyping a semi-decent game? You're as bad as the fucks who endlessly whine about how 'terrible' (it's not) the game is. Fuck autism.
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>>634293418 (OP)
I hate this trope.
You watch an ecchi anime with tons of hot girls but the MC is a complete asexual piece of shit who always screams "YAMERO" when a girl comes onto him.
What happened to god tier perverts like Kintaro?
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>>634347727
That's wrong, men are constantly regenerating sperm so the quality stays high for their entire life, it's just the quantity that decreases. Only women are on a hard timer since they're born with all their eggs and can never make more.
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>>634293418 (OP)
Japanese men IRL don't flirt. They don't fuck either.
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>>634350967
Barry, go gas yourself.
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>>634350549
That was before the 10 commandments so it doesn't count.
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>>634293585
True, bang your own sister instead
--- 634351809
This game came out like 5 years too late. Square should have cancelled FFXIII-2 and put all that staff towards finishing Versus, released it in 2011 or so, and called it XIV.
--- 634351884
>>634293418 (OP)
It makes them relatable to lonely otaku while also providing an in-universe reason why someone so likeable doesn't already have a girlfriend.
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>>634351726
lol

Moses received the 10 commandments in Exodus which was about 8 or 9 hundred years before David lived. Try again, retard.
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>>634298769
EVERYTHING was wasted in this game

>disappoint
>dĭs″ə-point′
>intransitive verb

>To fail to satisfy the hope, desire, or expectation of.To frustrate or thwart.To cause disappointment.
>See: Final Fantasy XV
--- 634352185
>all these people replying to xv-kun
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>>634293989
legit thought this was Y4 Saejima for a second
--- 634352219
>>634351192
How new are you? Lurk 10 more years at least
--- 634352254
>wanting to fuck your sister
But sisters in the real world are annoying as fuck.
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>>634347727
That's some interesting femoid cope.
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>>634301464
Firion tried to jump in bed with the fucking QUEEN
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>>634348278
Hit a nerve did I?
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>>634293504
Kek
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>>634303056
Typical Japanese girl flat fat face and downy eyes
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>>634335392
frfr no cap
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>>634307860
>>634329985
Old Ashley was ugly and extremely annoying
Nu-Ashley mogs Ada
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>>634351787
based sisterfucker
--- 634352768
>>634293418 (OP)
>been following it since Versus-XIII days
>fucking hated this game upon release
>haven't touched the game since then
>tried out Royal Edition recently 
>it's still fucking dogshit

I'm genuinely glad Tabata is gone, and the Loonytunes Productions was shut down after Flopspoken.
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>>634307860
>Noctis is a fucking mopey little bitch pussyboy
What a long way down from where he started
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>>634293418 (OP)
Japs know the danger of putting pussy on a pedestal.
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>>634352768
>Loonytunes Productions

fucking kek
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>>634311905
>Not too long ago writers were commonly working men with some profession that they just happened to have something to say and talent for saying it
You would think that, but it's not true at all. Look into the genealogy of any famous writer in history, and you will find that they come from big money and royal names. They just used to be more talented and better at studying their subjects, and at least had SOME respect for their audience's intelligence
--- 634354124
Can't wait for FFXVI to wash the memories of FFXV out of my mind.
--- 634354137
>>634293418 (OP)
>Didn't play DMC3
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>>634354124
Those healthbars look godawful
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>>634354291
im glad you can turn that and the damage numbers off
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>>634293418 (OP)
Because they need to make males as inoffensive as possible so as to not hurt the feelings of the lonely virgin incels who play these games. It's why every single male harem mc in any anime or vn is a total fag as well.
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>>634354450
ahahahahaah very nice try shill-kun
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>>634354530
yes anyone who is remotely looking forward to anything is a shill - congratulations you fit in
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>>634354530
kill self
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>>634354636
No, but someone who lies via showing non-combat footage where the UI is off is a shill.
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>>634354756
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>>634354756
you're an absolute retard
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>>634355029
You should probably vary your images better shill-kun.
>>634355058
For you, vocabulary.
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>>634354756
what the fuck are you on about
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>>634354756
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>>634293504
>HE DID THE MEME GUYS

4chan is becoming reddit.
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>>634355128
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>>634355128
kys dumbfuck
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>>634320818
>i work with (anything)
Any post that says this is lying, nobody on this site ever does anything worthwhile kek
--- 634355301
>>634293418 (OP)
It's supposed to be a sign of the man's greater "humility" and "self-control", because he must resist the temptation of women who are all conveyed to be stupid immature whores.
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>>634355152
>becoming
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>>634299642
Tropes you get from anime doesn't exactly correlate to real life. Bunch of bar floozies to go around and enough idiosyncrasies in the human condition that there's all kinds of kinks.
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>>634354530
>>634354756
>>634355128
brainrot from posting here too much
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>>634293418 (OP)
Is this really a trope common in Japanese games? I could get behind that, I hate it when my characters acts like a stupid teenage coomer
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>>634355776
>shill mad that a lie is called out
kek
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>>634346147
>Well the extreme opposite
Why jump to the extremes though?
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>>634298242
>shirtless men fighting is totally gay bro just like boxing, wrestling and mma fights. 
You're just a closet homo.
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>>634350549
Why do you think God had to BTFO the Jews in every fucking chapter in the Bible? And in the end they get told to fuck off while the Gentiles receive the Messiah

Even in their own fucking holy book THEY wrote, they lose for being unapologetic heathens.
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>>634355029
Don't ruin this image please, it's rather old now and i've always liked it. Sometimes i post it while pretending to be retarded myself never to insult someone in this new manner. You might have even saved it from one of my posts so please respect, if not my wishes, the picture itself.
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lol
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>>634356715
He is calling himself retarded unintentionally so it still works.
--- 634356876
>>634352254
Not mine. She's unironically exactly who I would want for a wife. Which is why my wife is so similar.
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>>634356715
>>634356791
>sperg talking to himself
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>>634356990
just leave him to it
schizos are like that
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>>634356610
>shirtless men fighting is totally gay bro just like boxing, wrestling and mma fights

Uh, yeah... that's historically been exposed as a haven for homosexuals. Just like religious convents being invented for royalty to hide their homo family in.
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>>634356791
You and i might get that but i don't think a new anon understands what you mean. So be it, i do like to rebel against anon's frankly stuck up precepts.
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>>634331205
How is jail treating you
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>>634293585
The key is to bang your bro's sister and then constantly make fun of him for it. Never bang your bro's sister if you can't out alpha him.
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>>634348447
>15 year and 21 year dating is creepy
No it isn't. You're insane.
--- 634358687
stop talking to yourself you fucking sperg
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>>634358003
Well, anon thinks that I am you and you are me. Of course, we already know he is retarded.
As for why his friend appeared after I simply called out a blatant lie...I don't know. I consider it a shill force either way, paid or unpaid, all they want to do is "push" an image of the game -- facts be damned.
--- 634359035
>betrayed literally everyone just so he could keep banging his girlfriend
>after already pumping her full of kids
>fucked off to her immediately after a global time reset despite being like 10 years old
ENTER
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>>634358548
One is a child one is barely an adult.
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>>634293418 (OP)
Japan loves to cuck female characters in one way or another. How do people not realize this by now? Has something to do with the male power fantasy in Japan where women lust over them but they turn them down.
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>>634293418 (OP)
Because it's based. Nothing makes women more mad than just ignoring them if they're interested in you. I don't even hate them, it's just so delicious how pissed off they get. Yesterday, I was out and a girl came on to me. I ignored her and she almost started hitting me. I laughed in her face and just got another beer lol.
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>>634359035
>so ravenous that ships waifu committed suicide because her tight cat girl pussy couldn’t handle it anymore
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>>634359197
Haha yeah, what a wacky dream you had man.
--- 634359908
>>634293418 (OP)
because being so cool that you can afford to reject women is something they fantasize about + male characters that are inoffensive are more palatable for foids
--- 634359917
authors make their characters fags because they aren't allowed to include sex. they want to write the girl characters as interested because it makes them more appealing to viewers, but then they either have to keep coming up with excuses to cockblock the male character or else write him as a fag. if you look at r18 media that is allowed to have sex scenes this shit doesn't happen.
--- 634359923
>>634302795
>Noctus is part of dissida nt

never played it due to hearing how bad it is compared to the good ones.

>>634349367
>But instead gets NTR'd by watching the villain penetrate his wife.
Bahamut (the actual villain) penetrated Luna?
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>>634356610
>there was nothing gay about roman naked wrestling where they stick their dicks in
dude, sports are 99.9% closeted homos and 0.1% of people trying to fit in somewhere questioning
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>>634359793
Anon, some of us:
-are actually decent looking
-go out
-live in a country where women sometimes take the active part
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>>634359880
name?
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>>634360250
Uh huh
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>>634355152
>becoming
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>>634331205
I KNEEL
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>>634359045
Vagina bleeds, not a child.
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>>634294318
Np they just aren't sexually repressed and therfore value relationships on a deeper level. It's only in secually repressed societies that sex is obsessed about. When it's normalized and a part of the culture people don't make a big deal of it.