diy/2560189.txt

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--- 2560189
How big is your old twig nibbler?
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Have you ever found bees living in a tree?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8z3nBQNLL4 [Embed]
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>you're a majestic tree
>alive for thousands of years
>been home to many animals, provided shade for many more
>survived hurricanes, floods, wildfires, earthquakes
>one day some yokels come around
>cut you and all your friends down and pose for pictures over your corpse
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>>2560245
Ever heard of Pando the giant clonal aspen?
--- 2560375
I went from an 18 to 16" bar
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>>2560359
i had heard of it but never realized how huge and old it really was. 14,000 years old, man. that's amazing.
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>>2560385
The ranges are pretty wide, the biggest I can see is 80,000 years
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>>2560375
What was your main problem with the longer bar?
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Why do japanese axes have these lines?
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>>2560465
number of gaijin killed with the axe
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Biggest I have is a 32" bar on an MS462
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>>2560465
Deliberate 'flaws'

Suggesting that, if the creator had not included these marks, the thing would have approached perfection
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>>2560422
I wanted to see if it would bog less when buried in hardwood. Been cutting oak logs into rectangles to make a bridge. Perhaps rotating mass would help
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>>2560573
What type of chain are you using?
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I love this stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOpsVijlA7E [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoprVhpOKIk [Embed]
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>>2560577
Pixel Husqvarna
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>>2560573
What about a more skippy chain?
--- 2561511
went from MS181 14" -> echo cs501 16" ->echo cs7310 20" 
the shitl was way too underpowered for my use and the 501 was fine but i just wanted bigger saw for shits and giggles
--- 2562194
Used to have a Stihl 064 and put a 75cm bar on it with full teeth, I can't find a skip tooth chain in my country and no saw has the power to pull a normal chain in hardwood
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>>2562194
I also have a 070 with 63cm bar but it's getting heavy and my back is fucked after a couple of injuries
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>>2560589
I used to make charcoal, there are many different methods
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>>2562196
You can do it in a drum it's that easy
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>>2562197
The easiest way I know is to make it as biochar by literally throwing new branches onto a fire so that it starves out the bottom of oxygen and then you throw water over it.
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>>2562322
That's a shit way to do it, you have to be near it all the time it burns, you burn away wood and then you get it wet. Charcoal absorbs the water you throw at it, especially while it's still hot and then you have wet charcoal that can't burn efficiently
The easiest way is to make it in a metal container. Making it inside dirt gives better charcoal but is labor intensive
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>>2562447
Because it's biochar not burnable chacoal, it's used mixed with soil. It's primary advantage is all you really need is a bucket and a water source.
If you actually want to make something burnable then you'd do it very differently
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>>2560189 (OP)
that is a normal size tree. those are midgets
--- 2562684
Arborist/Forester by trade, I have only ran Stihl outside of a couple of Echo power pruners.
Currently own
>200t top handle climbing saw.
>362c, good saw for people upgrading from a Craftsman, always felt heavy for it's power.
>440 magnum. My old daily saw, got rebuilt a few years back and tuned for a modified exhaust. If you have ran a 440, you understand why I ran it for over 10 years. Was also the first saw I ever used.
>660, similar modified exhaust as the 440. Don't use it much but it is a fun saw to use for less than 40 minutes.
>400c, my new daily and pic related. It is a game changer of a chainsaw. Half a pound heavier than my 362c, a pound lighter than my 440. Same horsepower as my 440. Lightweight piston keeps the vibration forces down, significantly. I fucking love it.
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Do any of you manage or own land? 
What do you make or sell from it?

Found a guy who owns several hundred acres of the ozarks to make really good honey using wild caught bees because he sees it as the only way to protect his bees from agricultural chemicals and ecological denudation from loggers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ3off6uzG0 [Embed]

He says the honey is probably the most profitable way to use the land long term instead of some logger wheeling in and clear felling everything that others are doing there.
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>>2560589
pleaching some pretty big trees for a hedge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fVqMesU32s&list=PLc8eR5_16ZwLlaSqczRv5x2rEfCLvqQqI&index=7 [Embed]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bFatvC4BDE [Embed]
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>>2563203
How does the youtube filter work, this guy is just talking about trees?
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>>2560465
Originally they were most likely blood groves because Japanese battled with axes just as much as with katanas. It evolved into an homage/talisman to nature. The 4 lines being soil, water, air, fire. The three lines I forgot. 

>>2560545
>Deliberate 'flaws'
That's Chinese philosophy in regards to porcelain. Japanese would rather Sudoku than deliberately flaw their work.

>>2560573
Nah, you gotta use wedges. It's probably squeezing the bar like a pair of chopsticks when you cut down it.

>>2560189 (OP)
Picked up a Fiskars hatchet the other day as I have many axes but nothing smaller for light stuff. I like it, very lightweight and has a hollow handle so I can tuck a lanyard in it. Thought about getting one of their larger new splitter axes too, but idk how I feel about a hollow handle on something like that. Their plastic has a "Stronger than steel" gimmick I can't for the life of me trust, but I've yet to regret any tool I've bought from them so far.
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>>2563214
>The 4 lines being soil, water, air, fire. The three lines I forgot.
believe these are rather 7 shinto nature kami, of which the elements are represented by four. I'm not sure exactly which seven, and it probably isn't strict anyway (nothing in shinto is).
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>>2563214
Three lines are a stand in for sake when used as an offering. You would stand the axe up, pray toward it, and then get chopping. I believe it is a pun of some sort. "sa" is one of the forms of the word for three.
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>>2560245
Anthropomorphizing things is a sign of stunted development.
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>>2563536
No, anthropomorphizing things is a sign of not being a psychopath.
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>>2562684
ms400 looked nice, glad to hear you like it. i'll get one when they have heated handles. 
i have a hi-comp ported 066 with a 36" bar. used it in the log sort for bucking. i'm pretty comfortable with saws, but this one scares me. 
you arborists are fucking crazy. i like my feet on the ground.
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>>2563642
You want scary.
Slap a bow bar on.
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>>2563536
Some trees send out a sort of 'roots or seeds' or w/e when they get burned/cut in hopes of growing another tree further away.
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>>2563642
I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the 400. 
>Running a 440, 50 feet inna tree, and you're catching the section.
That is scary my man.
>>2563779
I got an old bow bar for wildland fire work. It is smaller than a pulp wood bow, fits a 362c perfectly. Makes clearing brush a very quick endeavor.
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>>2563536
trees aren't things, they're living creatures. they grow and respond to stimuli in their environment just like you and i.
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>>2560375
545
great coice for an allround chainsaw
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>>2562684
we have a mix of husquarna and stihl.
the more generic ones are husquarna 3 545 and one 353 and a few more.
the more unique ones are stihl tophadles 201tx and 200 as backup. and 500i which is very sexy because of the i.

Also husquarna tophandles are never owned one but a coleage has one
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> no more trees
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>>2563214
I have a Friskers splitter axe. Its so nice to chop with, its light and the handle shape gives excellent control. I wasnt going to buy one for the same reasons but found it in my inherited tool heap. I would buy one again for sure.
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>>2564775
gotta grow trees to cut trees
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How do you get into selling firewood?
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>>2563214
>Bloodgrooves
You're meant to grow out of this when you're 14.
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>>2564894
>Ackchyually it's called a "fuller".
If you're going to correct someone then put the correction in your post.

>>2564801
Thanks for the input. I will have to pick one up next time I'm at the depot. Hatchet has held well so far.
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>>2560189 (OP)
How do you even process a tree like that? And did they just use it for normal lumber or was it for novelties like giant tables made from cross-sections?
--- 2564958
Homeowner checking in. 
Mostly just cut down what dies standing. Hardwoods go into the wood pile, softwoods get set aside for sugaring.
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>>2563214
Wabi sabi, sashiko etc is celebration of flaws inherent to usage, but it’s definitely now transgressed into making flawed new items
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>>2564958
>Sugihara bar
A man of taste and refinement I see.
--- 2566764
What size and type of pruning saw do you go for? Straight blade or curved? Impact hardened or sharpenable teeth? 
Do you prefer something short and used for whipping off branches in the wrong place or long and chunky that can pretty much replace a chainsaw?
Any good brands other than silkys?
--- 2566831
Arborist here

First company I worked at our staple saws were the 201t for climbing, 261c (18") for groundwork, and a 660 (28") for everything big. We had more saws of course but those three were versatile enough for everything.

Biggest saw I ever used while climbing was a husky 395 xp with a 32" bar.
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>>2564955
Put it on a lathe and make a toothpick.
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>>2562194
Assemble your own chain. Ain't hard, just takes some time.

>>2562195
Time to retire that bad boy for something lighter and with a chain brake.
--- 2567710
Anyone familiar with rebuilding a chainsaw? I have an ms362 that had straight gas run through it. So it has no compression. New block, cylinder, and rings anything else? Is this feasible for a wrenchlet with some free time? Hoping to avoid buying a brand new replacement
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>>2567710
If the piston isn't seized then you can probably rebuild it.
>Don't buy another 362, get the 400c if you go that route.
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>>2567714
I took it too a shop and he showed me the cylinder moving and the sludgey stuff on side of the worn down cylinder wall and rings. He wanted 600 canadian to replace, not sure if steep or reasonable.
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>>2567724
It is a bit pricey of my mental conversation is right, but not a rip off. Check the price of the replacement parts if you want a better idea.
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>>2563779

Stop giving him suicide advice, lmao.
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Cut the pagan stuff
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>>2560189 (OP)
18 and 20 on an ms271. 14 and 16 on an ms18.
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What do you guys think about blue bar nuts?
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>>2568330
Never found a need for an upgraded bar nut. Replacements? Sure, because the nut got lost. But never thought of needing anything more.
--- 2568361
Ms 461 with a 32" and a ms 441 with a 28" es light. 461 usually wears the 28 es light bar and is a really well balanced saw with that bar. The 441 usually wears a 25" and she rips. Both craigslist scoops for $500 each. They feed a fire pit and a smoker. I bought wood once and never again.
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>>2560245
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>>2567724
Buy a Meteor top end kit and do it yourself. Long as your bearings are still good it's less than an hour of work.
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>>2560217
At my elementary school there was a sycamore with a huge hole in it full of honey and bees.
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>>2568513
Notice how the Christcucks are all bald and dysgenic incel men while the pagans are chads with a full head of hair and fertile supple wives.
--- 2569553
I killed my MS250 engine, I bought another Ms250 to replace it. I was thinking about buying an ebay/china engine to revive my original saw as a backup. Thought? I couldn't find much info on China parts.
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>>2569553
hit or miss
had one cylinder last for a decade, the replacement only lasted half a year. would keep the original crank if its still in good shape
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>>2560189 (OP)
>Cut down a 1,000 year old tree
I want you dead
>>2560245
Based. City parasites are cancer. However almost all modern loggers are Mexicans... and fun fact the northwest timber industry isn't profitable. They are still around because of massive subsidies and they don't actually pay to harvest trees on public lands... almost 1/2 the harvested trees go to china as well... so basically we import 3rd worlders to cut down forests at a net loss so we can give wealth to china.

Pro-loggers are the biggest retarded parasites on the planet.
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>>2564688
It's been good for my couple acres, def a step up oer Pops 460 Rancher
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>>2569990
I bet you expectied biomass coofiring and all the other green tech to be way less destructive to the environment than it turned out to be?
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>>2569990
trees have a lifespan and you are wasting them if you wait till they rot from the inside out
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>>2562195
That is a sweet collection of chisels you've got there. But why put that oily saw on that nice cabinetmaker's workbench? Don't you have a separate bench for dirty stuff and metal work?
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>>2570385
There are coppice stools that are thousands of years old. They expand out surprisingly wide.
--- 2570655
Cam I get some recommendations for a decent medium duty gas chainsaw?

Want to cut down some trees on my property. The biggest is a White Pine but I'll probably hire someone to do that because it's huge.
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>>2560389
elaborate
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>>2562196
>>2562197
I beseech you, enlighten us great charcoal wizard.
i want to learn of your ways.
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>>2564958
>sugaring
i usually eat mine with salt
also. what?
what is sugaring?
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>>2560217
I have a bee infested removal scheduled for next month. The customer is hiring a bee guy to deal with them before I cut.
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>>2568330
The new single bar nut options are the big gay. There is likely a spot for a second bar stud and the clutch cover probably has a two stud variant available. I converted an MS180 and an MS211 two two studs.
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>>2568357
Captive nuts rule.
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>>2569553
If you are unwilling to fork out for Meteor then at least go Hyway. Like otheranon said, keep the old crank.
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>>2571864
if you're still worried use one of those smoke boxes beekeepers use that make bees docile, and a face guard
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>>2563214
I bought husqvarnas largest splitting axe with plastic handle last year since it was the only axe above bargain bin quality in stock and I have to say it is a very nice axe split maybe 50m3 with it and it made the effort a lot less back breaking.
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>>2571871
>if you're still worried
Nah, this customer is very particular that everyone stay in their own wheelhouse. He will have a solid bee guy do a thorough job of bee removal before I get there. I am curious to see the actual hive. I found several openings spanning probably eight feet. It is a full blown Winnie the Pooh style infestation.
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>>2571872
Yeah. I got a plastic Husky to break up some desert pine. It survived admirably well. Pine that grows in the desert is tough.
--- 2572108
People tend to give carbide chains bad reviews but, according to my extremely limited experience, the budget carbide chain that I just got from Pacific American Carbide seems to perform about on par with an equivalent Oregon S56 AdvanceCut.
--- 2572246
I use used hypoid lube as bar oil. You cannot stop me.
--- 2572294
I would like to buy a 2 person saw that it suitable for australian hardwoods, the ones I've found say they're only suitable for softwood.

I have been lax in getting firewood ready for winter, a new child is being a time thief.
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>>2572294
I don't know, man. I spent time around that stuff a bit, but i am unfamiliar with anything besides pine, fir, and redwood - all live - being cut with those. If your wood is dry then I think that it is game over for anything but a chainsaw. Eucalyptus is about 40 percent denser than oak. These guys are trying to bring it back -

https://crosscutsaw.com/product/434-two-man-tuttle-tooth-saw-5-5/

The US Forestry Service has some good videos on youtube about the use of the device and especially maintenance.
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>>2570655
I went with a Stihl MS211 for cleanup work. The Echo CS590 is a decent saw in the next class. I actually went with the 620 because of some of the pro features, but the 590 is the same base saw. The Craftsman S205 is actually made by Efco and gets good reviews from a dude that I generally trust, but I have no firsthand experience with it. What's your budget and how big are the trees?
--- 2574981
What the hell can you actually do with leylandii wood because it burns like shit.
Got a couple hundred metres of 30+ year old wind break on an earth bank and they need chopping before they get blown over and destroy the sheds.

I readd the heartwood is pretty rot proof can you use it as fencing?
Working with the stuff gets me covered in resin.
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>>2563214
fiskars is cheap chinese junk
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What's it like working at one of those fire spotter towers?
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>>2574981
>full of resin
>burns like shit
Interdasting.
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>>2577234
it doesn't last and leaves a lot of tar
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>>2577377
I use wood like that for cooking outside.
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>>2577677
That's an option, I'll just need an appropriate fire for it I guess.
What's the best fire to cook outside over, like a simple brick oven or something?
--- 2581816
I'm looking for a tough chainsaw that can comfortably be used in an alaskan mill. What models should I be on the lookout for?
--- 2582323
I've been playing around with weaving hazel and willow to make a fence. I knocked some one to two inch width hazel poles into the ground in a line about 18-24 inches apart then at about belly to chest height took 2-4 long thin hazel or willow rod and wove them through but pulled to bottom rod to the top each time to bind it together.
Worked pretty well. when I put all my weight against it to try pulling it over it held up.
Will probably need replacing in two to three years but it only cost me the time to cut the poles out that were growing there anyway.
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>>2582323
You can use live green sticks so they take root. Bend the tops over to weave your fence and have it self repairing.
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>>2582481
That works with willow, I planted a few willow rods beside the hazel woven one, hopefully they root, then I'll use them in future to cross the boggy section.
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Do these work or is gas the way to go chain bros?
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What is a decent small chainsaw to carry on my back while mountain biking? The trails by me have too many fallen small trees to get any speed up, and most are too big for me to drag away. I want to clean it up.
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>>2583534
Get a silky hand saw either a fixed or folder.
Or get one of those pocket chainsaws campers use that are just a chain and two hand toggles, could also take a small axe.
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>>2583203
Former ag dealership guy here.

Most battery-powered chainsaws are really no more than pruners. They use smaller chains and simply aren't designed for thick branches. They're not really designed for continuous duty and they're more for home use, pruning smaller tree branches and some woody shrubs. You can get higher end battery powered chainsaws, but they cost a fair bit.

I have modified battery saws for customers before, although I didn't like doing it. Not because it didn't work, mind you. You can put a thicker bar on them and get more out of the saw, but it's not great for its battery life, and most customers are retarded and will never remember what the customization was, making their lives difficult when they go to replace the chain.

If you're actually cutting down trees and doing real lumber work, gas saws are still better than battery saws. They're easier to service, they're more abundant on the used market, and they're better in a professional work capacity. If you're a homeowner who wants to terrorize the neighbourhood at 6 am with your chainsaw, the electric one will prune your lilac tree just fine.
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>>2583534
where do you go mountain biking?
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>>2582481
I've seen people weave living fences out of willow. looks great at first then it grows to 5 metres tall and you have to keep pruning it back but that might be a feature in its own right, growing your own bean poles and kindling.
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>>2580169
I have a fire pit made with cement ''stones'' from the hardware store. I have a grill that I can place over it. I have two cast iron pans that I can put on the grill and some basic barbecue tools. I am an arborist and I have a lot of random, oddly shaped chunks to deal with, so I like the big pit. I set it to burning, collapse the fire when it is well established, emplace the grill, preheat the pans, and go at it. The irregularity of my pieces are of no concern once they get partially burned. My total investment is probably 100 USD.
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>>2583534
What diameter trees are we talking about? If they are small enough then, like otheranon says, a pocket saw will suffice. If that is a non-starter then we can start talking power saws.
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>>2583557
Yeah, I have a Makita battery saw that came with a .043 groove 3/8 Low Profile chain. I swapped that out for a .050 groove 3/8 Low Profile chain. That was a good swap. If there was any sort of twisting, the narrow groove bar would get pinched. I have removed 16'' branches with it that were the size of what we usually consider medium trees around here. It depends on the environment. It is reliable and quiet. It just does not have the running duration for a big job.
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>>2560189 (OP)
question to burgers/leafs - has any of trees this big been preserved, or ware they all cut down? 
Seems like such a waste...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartek_(tree)
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>>2585371
We have a lot of big trees remaining in burgerland. For trees like in the OP image, look to Kings Canyon National Park, Sequoia National Park - but really, a lot of trees near that size can be found in many areas of the West Coast from California up through Oregon and Washington, and over the border into leafland. Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, etc. have some a bit smaller, but in great quantities. Your Bartek tree would be more like our East Coast trees, with which I am less familiar. Too many were cut but very many remain. I believe the tallest tree standing in the US is ''Hyperion''.
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>>2585364
If it's bigger stuff the silkys will go up to something like a sugozawa, or sugoi with a 420mm/16 inch blade although silky stuff can get expensive when you have to replace the blades.
If the guy is biking out to remote trail sites then any powered saw is going to be large and heavy and he'll have to cart all of the safety gear, sharpeners, and batterys/fuel out there too all of which I think really point to hand tools.

Depending what he plans to actually do just a cheap folding pruning saw, and a pocket chainsaw are going to do most of what he might need. Maybe he could add a pair of leather gloves, secateurs, and a small axe?

Although the guy originally spacified that he wanted something to cut fallen trees too big to drag away we don't actually have any idea of what size these are or whether he already carries a handsaw.
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>>2585371
they'll cut all of them down, then no one will ever see them except in books for at least 1000 years, they just did it in BC a few weeks ago and the largest old growth forest on vancouver island is going to be cut next
its worse than a 1000 yr old masoleum being destroyed since it could be rebuilt like original with enough effort
a tree like that can't be replicated
but the same /pol/tards that claim the "tree would grow back" would seethe over some rocks being toppled.
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>>2585658
>he could add a pair of leather gloves, secateurs, and a small axe?
The arborist standard for gloves is the rubberized fabric type - DPower, Galilee, Milwaukee, etc. They are just enough protection, breathable, lightweight, do not hamper grip strength, fit in one's pocket, and cost a dollar fifty per pair. I would go all the way down to a 1.5 pound hatchet or even smaller, with a 12 inch handle, making sure that the head was designed for cutting and not for chopping. For the pruners, I would go with a set of anvil pruners such as Smith or Wolfgarten. The saw is up in the air until he specifies diameter.
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>>2560465
Japs have an absolutely ancient forestry system. They had professional foresters/rangers that would designate specific hardwood trees to be cut and then reforest any endangered spots in the 15th century. It's why despite being a small, industrialized island nation that's built things out of wood and paper for two thousand years, they've only really deforested the areas around their cities.
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>>2585739
I modeled a short hand saw after a japanese forestry saw that I saw in an old picture. I used a broken axe handle with a Notch pole head and a Corona blade. They have a neat toggle system that uses sticks interlaced with ropes to make rungs that are temporarily installed in the tree to facilitate access. We truly can learn a lot looking to The East.
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>>2585726
jesus fucking christ why aren't you burgers rating about it and burning cars
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>>2585734
I suggested leather gloves because it gives you more use against thorn bushes but you could perhaps just use a flat piece of leather and you could use that wrap the rest of the tools in?

rubberised fabric gloves (but he'll probably have biking gloves which are already pretty rugged)
anvil pruning shears/secateurs
pocket chainsaw (the strap types would be more compact than the toggle type)

>maybe
A small compact hatchet
pruning saw (size dependent and might be redundant)
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>>2585743
>They have a neat toggle system that uses sticks interlaced with ropes to make rungs that are temporarily installed in the tree to facilitate access.
You mean a rope ladder or something more?
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>>2585769
>I suggested leather gloves because it gives you more use against thorn bushes
As I gain more experience, I realize the lack of depth of my experience. However, in my experience. the rubberized fabric gloves punch way out of their weight class. The do well against palo verde and mesquite and the rubberized surface survives against abrasion better than leather. Heavy duty leather gloves suck and medium weight leather gloves only last one day for me.
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>>2585771
Installed around the tree and cinched as footholds, probably.
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>>2585771
>You mean a rope ladder?
No.
>or something more?
No. Something less. Imagine a Rope Logic Ultra Sling, only with a bar at the end instead of the eye.
https://www.bartlettman.com/products/rope-logic-trex-ultra-ring-sling-1?_pos=7&_sid=710ebecd6&_ss=r
You pass it over the stem, select your slot, pass the bar through the selected slot, and advance. I have seen nips uses a big stack of them to ascend and I have seen one nip use only a pair. He was getting anchored and then he would reach down and recover the bottom one. I cannot remember how he managed that without just getting stuck. It was artful and minimalistic.
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>>2585781
Here we go -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Octm4nK2Fc [Embed]
I think that they usually wrap the rope around the toggle as in this video, but I have seen the loops somewhere as well. That would explain him being able to recover it easily for reuse.
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>>2585785
That's what I was thinking, yeah.
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>>2585842
I am trying to work out solutions for palms so I do not have to spur them. For the shorter ones, I can cargo strap a ladder to the stem and just climb up hybrid style, using both the ladder and my lanyard. The taller ones get iffy.
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>>2585844
the old coconut climbers used to tie a rope between their feet and a rope around the trunk and sort of bunny hop up from what I remember
might be a high learning curve
I feel like trying to figure out how he lashed that >>2585785 might post results if I make progress documernting it
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>>2585844
I think the idea of tying poles as you go up makes as much sense as anything.
--- 2588978
Binchoutan white charcoal is peculier stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mbn1STjJ1M [Embed]
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>>2570385
>wasted
No, they fall over and are consumed by various things, and eventually their nutrients and components return to the soil to be used again.
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>>2560189 (OP)
My first thought seeing this is "fucking niggers". Germans really are human garbage.
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>>2560245
Faggot communist take right here
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>>2589936
found the jew
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I bought a short bar so I can shorten damaged chains and continue to use them. Rate and hate.
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What the fuck is the point of cutting down a tree that big? No mill in the world would be able to process it, implying you could even move the thing in the first place.
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>>2590124
>No mill in the world would be able to process it
We could and we did. 
>implying you could even move the thing in the first place
We used a series of dammed ponds created with diverted water to flood them down mountainsides into rivers for transport to the mills.
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>>2591067
There are still ponds with sunken trunks at the bottom of them.
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>>2590053
Based and gets you more torque too. I use the shortest bar that works for a given job.
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>>2585739
Didn't they spam 2 or 3 kinds of three that make horrible polen every year and have very poor biodiversity?
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>>2591500
Sugi.
They planted huge acreage before the war but no one needed them any more when they came to maturity and they started dumping huge quantities of pollen into the air sometime around the eighties I think.
This is one of the reasons Japan has such bad hayfever, you could apparently see the air colour change.
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>>2571864
How did it go anon?
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>>2593527
I came in 3 days after the bee guys. A different colony was already actively raiding the hive. They were not nearly as aggressive as the bees native to the hive. I cut a traditional face. It knocked right out. It was massively infected with fungus. I touched it a hair to clean up a little Dutchman. I had intended to fan cut through the face because the stem was over 36 inches on average - with lots of irregularities. After I made the face cut I was scared to be in front of it anymore because of the extensive rot. I went to one side and bore cut the back cut, went to the other side and did the same thing, leaving a very large trigger. I bore cut about an inch and a half under the trigger to make sure that the kerf did not grab my bar. It popped, my groundie yelled, ''Go'', and I pulled out and ran off at a 45 like a little girl. It came down without any incident. I followed all of the rules and they paid off in spades. The accuracy of my autistic cuts gave me what I needed. I only had one half to one inch of live wood at the outside of the stem. The rest was rotten to the core. It hinged on two little tabs of one inch wood on each side. When I went to buck it, I found it pocked with little dabs of cement all over - apparently a previous attempt at bee mitigation from years past. I hit five pieces of that, so five chains went back onto the grinder. The customer has his own dump truck so I loaded it all in there for disposal. I knocked all of the rot out of the middle and cut the ring of live trunk out with a carbide chain. There was a good sized hole where the trunk had rotted right into the ground. The wood was all garbage. In addition to bees, it was infested with cockroaches and scorpions. I took a chunk of the hive home and it attracted local bees in a few days so I tossed it as well. The full extent of the hive was from five feet up to 20 feet up - so fifteen feet of hive in total. I learned a lot from this job.
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>steal trees from one neighbors land, to plant on another neighbors land, to block the line of sight to 3rd neighbors porch lights in the middle of the night 
You're welcome for the free thousands of dollars of landscaping asshole. Now I am totally surrounded with trees. Feels good
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>>2594093
>I touched it a hair to clean up a little Dutchman
Hmm what's that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcUs5X9glCc [Embed]
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does stihl even have anything to compete with husqvarna 550xp g for us laymen and hobby woodmen?
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>>2595659
the 500i literally made all other chainsaws obsolete. great power to weight ratio, incredible torque.
>price
nigga if you plan on spending well over a grand on a chainsaw you are not in it for the hobby or single 5kw furnace
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>>2595608
>Hmm what's that?
Dutchman is the term applied to small, excess pieces that are left behind after a face cut is made. Since you cannot really see inside the tree when you cut, it is common to not have all perfect cuts, especially if the tree is large enough that you need to cut the face from both left and right sides. Once it is as done as reasonably indicated, one typically hits the wedge of wood with the back side of an axe to shatter any remaining fibers. If any of these shattered fibers are large enough to cause pinching during the fall then they need to be removed, lest they cause a camming effect that could cause the hinge to pop before it has forced the tree to follow the directed path. I was fortunate to have a very large falling area but I always try for a perfect cut, even when it is not needed, so I have experience striving for perfection when perfection is actually needed. Who knows? With how rotten it was, it may have done something gnarly rather than just drift uncontrolled to the side. Sometimes I feel like I need to do some bad cuts so I will have experience with how a tree will react if there is a problem, but I always lose heart and make a correction before the fall. It just feels stupid doing it wrong on purpose.
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>>2595659
Isn't that in the same market segment as the Stihl MS 261?
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>>2596118
I've seen videos of rotten cored trees splitting apart as they cut, I wondered if cinching them with a ratchet strap to hold it together would be beneficial?
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>>2596123
I have ratcheted trees, but I do not think that any of the ones that I have done were stopped from splitting by that measure. The big Cottonwood bee tree was so rotten that I would not know when to stop strapping. It was so bad that I did not really consider bothering. If it were to want to fall apart at one specific point and a strap prevented this, then it would likely fall apart a foot from the strap. I use what is called ''Die Sicherheitsfälltechnik'' in german. These guys demonstrate it pretty well -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET6YTe4D50I [Embed]
By the time the trigger is cut, there is really nothing left to hold and cause stress that might force a barberchair or other catastrophic failure. I am an amerifat but I use german language materials for most of my studies to kill two birds with one stone. The upside to this is that Germany deals with more rotten trees than we do, so they make more of a science about dealing with this issue.
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>>2595689
>well over a grand
550xp g is just about €1k
>>2596122
looks about right
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>>2596130
>so they make more of a science about dealing with this issue.
logging here is one of the most dangerous occupations you can have. everyone with a brains has a tractor pulled winch, makes a few cuts and gtfo before pulling it over. 
The guys in these videos are often state employed and are not allowed "heavy" equipment on state grounds (if they were, the bull work would be done by processors)
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>>2596293
>logging
Yeah, that is something else - the US market is very logging centric. They are doing production work and need to knock down a bunch of trees that are typically healthy and in the open. I am an arborist. The reason that I am touching a tree is often because it is dead or rotten and they are typically nearby high value targets. If I knock down 2 trees then I had a big day. I can spend an extra 5 or ten minutes to do a complex series of cuts to ensure that I do not encounter problems. They are wildly different jobs.
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>>2570655
I love my husky 435
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I want to make a log arch, is this a terrible mistake?
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>>2597144
>is this a terrible mistake?
It depends on use case and how retarded you are. I built a small but heavy duty sawbuck. I tip an end up and over the thing and let it hang. Then I cut pieces off of it until it is light enough to manhandle on top, and then use it traditional style. That is enough to keep it off the ground for processing. If I needed to keep the wood in longer lengths then I would probably go the way of the log arch - or maybe copy the new log cart that Stein makes.
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>>2597322
>maybe copy the new log cart that Stein makes
the v shaped arbour trolley?
I already made something like that out of planks and threaded bar. 
I figured out a way to make something sort of functional in the end using old planks and bits of scrap I think my total outlay was around £60; 40 of that was on wheels + bits of scrap I had to hand, and my time and tools. I could post a picture if you had any interest in how I put it together.
Centre of gravity isn't quite right though but it's okay as long as I don't go too big and heavy over steep terrain.
It works pretty well moving small and large bits of wood around the yard and fields. If I made another I might change a few things about it but I don't see a need to until it breaks.
A log arch on the other hand would be better for other tasks like extracting and moving much bigger trees but would have to be all steel manufacture which I'm not that confident in and wonder if it's better to buy one instead of cobbling one together.
and then I'm left wondering how much it would actually get used what size it should be and whether it would justify the outlay?
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>>2570675
It is indeed elaborate. I do agree wholeheartedly, good sir.
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>>2597144
No, it's quite common. Just make it strong and all is well. Trailer spindles are cheap or you can harvest the rear axle and wheels out of a Caravan or similar to cut up.
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>>2585367
Perfect homeowner saw for those who don't harvest firewood tho. Mine saved me when I had a shoulder replacement and now my gassers just sit since I've plenty of spare batteries from other Makita tools. I use wedges and also have a DeWalt 60V so sticking isn't an issue.
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>>2596293
I use a separate "leader" (like a fishing leader, so I can disconnect it quickly if I need the truck) of wire rope with chain and grab hooks (I have this stuff from towing anyway) to connect trees to my truck via paying out my bed mounted winch cable. That puts my truck well out of range when I preload the tree and snatch blocks give me infinite choice of pull directions. 

Works great. The truck moves much faster than any winch can spool.
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>>2588998
You spilled your coffee but it is okay because things will drink it and it wasn't actually for you blah blah blah, you have to be over 18 years old to post here
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>>2560217
One time I was digging through duff while waiting for the carriage to return and I quickly discovered I was actually digging into a ball faced hornet nest. Sprinted and stripped as fast as humanly possible
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>>2598443
Why did you strip?
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>>2597750
When that bar got stuck, I was 35 feet up a tree. The branch was only five inches or so but it twisted and pinched the bar such that there was no where to stick a wedge. I do carry one wedge up the tree for situations where it will help. I went to a super short bar with the larger gauge chain and it was a huge improvement. That thin bar always cut like shit afterwards, though I could see no signs of warpage. I was committed to having to replace it anyways. I have a pretty good collection of saws so I do not need to try to squeeze more out of the battery saws than they have to give.
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Why is black walnut so popular? What uses is it marketed for?
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Is there any good info material on small scale cable logging, maybe from the US FS? I found good material on nurseries and woodcare/forest development, but nothing on cable logging.
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>>2598527
horny
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>>2598785
Gorgeous natural grain. Used for furniture and other general indoor projects.
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>>2599034
I thought walnut wood had good rot resistance? I guess its primary use is domestic then.