| ----- | |
| --- 26504524 | |
| Post the best race car of all time. If you want to give reasons for/with your post feel free | |
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| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| --- 26504546 | |
| OP here am extremely drunk given the comment you likely will get the idea hit me with your best racers bros | |
| --- 26504547 | |
| >Japanese or American race car wins meme cup or class | |
| >Eurofaggots find some way to ban the car | |
| Every time. Not worth following motor"sport", most teams and racers are frauds. | |
| --- 26504562 | |
| Lotus 25 - first monocoque chassis in Formula 1 | |
| --- 26504568 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| >literally destroyed and made the Germans cry in their own home | |
| >glorious 12.000 rpm V6 engine that sounds like angry bees | |
| >SOVL | |
| --- 26504581 | |
| >>26504568 | |
| 155 FTW | |
| --- 26504595 | |
| Howmet -TX, because pistons are for dorks | |
| --- 26504606 | |
| >>26504547 | |
| *wipes the floor with the entire field of tube frame silhouette racers despite using a modified production unibody and being down on power* | |
| *gets itself, AWD, and non-American engines banned in the process* | |
| --- 26504692 | |
| >>26504580 | |
| >>26504562 | |
| /thread | |
| --- 26505606 | |
| Chaparral 2J. Sucked itself to the road, got banned | |
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| >>26505606 | |
| Actually pretty mediocre race record. | |
| --- 26505616 | |
| >>26504547 | |
| >clueless child reaches age of 12 and discovers BOP | |
| wowee | |
| --- 26505647 | |
| >The Type 35 was phenomenally successful, winning over 1,000 races in its time. It took the Grand Prix World Championship in 1926 after winning 351 races and setting 47 records in the two prior years. At its height the Type 35 averaged 14 race wins per week. Bugatti won the Targa Florio for five consecutive years, from 1925 through 1929, with the Type 35 | |
| --- 26505703 | |
| >>26504606 | |
| this is the winner. | |
| gozirra was pretty sick too | |
| --- 26505913 | |
| >BTFO every eurocuck prototype that dares enter IMSA | |
| --- 26506034 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| that's not even the best german race car of all time | |
| you just watched that cringe le mercedes youtube video that's been chosen by the algorithm a few days ago | |
| --- 26506052 | |
| >>26505913 | |
| >Late Stage Group C/IMSA GTP cars | |
| Overrated, just like the 905 Peugeot | |
| --- 26506190 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| The Sauber C9 was the peak of Group C race cars until its decline in the 90s. Some might say the C11 was or the 787B or the Jag, but there’s something special about that beautiful Merc twin turbo V8 deep growl, side exhausts, and beautiful silver paint. | |
| --- 26506315 | |
| >>26504535 | |
| wrong | |
| --- 26506347 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| not even a mercedes fan but the w11 was just something else | |
| https://youtu.be/4JiYOvCHwFY [Embed] | |
| https://youtu.be/2f1PtJV0vIs [Embed] | |
| --- 26506407 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| Nothing comes close to its K:D ratio. | |
| --- 26506421 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| >>26504562 | |
| >>26504595 | |
| >>26505606 | |
| >>26505647 | |
| >>26506034 | |
| >>26506347 | |
| Sports car | |
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| >>26506421 | |
| op is a prototype | |
| --- 26506456 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| >designed by an independent, true underdog manufacturer | |
| >prototype was very nearly abandoned at the top of a factory roof to rust forever, making it not only a legend, but also a comeback-kid | |
| >best handling car of its time | |
| >the original hemi-hunter; inline-6 smoked V8's of the era | |
| >83% winrate in 1952, so favored by drivers that they titled them with the word Fabulous | |
| >repeatedly outclassed designs that cost more money and time made by more established automakers | |
| >was actually stock when raced; owned by thousands of normal families, making it one of the first true "supercars" ownable by the average person | |
| >also doubled as a luxury family sedan | |
| >on the national register of historic automobiles | |
| >forever immortalized as a wise old man in the funny talking car movie | |
| Accept no substitute. | |
| --- 26506498 | |
| >>26506456 | |
| It was also voiced by Paul Newman, an absolute champion in his own right, and a racecar driver. | |
| --- 26506501 | |
| >>26506498 | |
| he fucking died a year after the movie released | |
| --- 26506528 | |
| >>26506501 | |
| So that's why they killed doc off screen | |
| --- 26506533 | |
| Oh look somebody made a thread just for the Penske PC23 | |
| --- 26506543 | |
| >>26506501 | |
| Everyone goes at some point. Dude died a legend. | |
| --- 26506596 | |
| >>26506456 | |
| Not a sports car, I mean let's be honest. | |
| --- 26506601 | |
| >>26506596 | |
| Good thing we're talking about race cars. | |
| --- 26506615 | |
| >>26506601 | |
| Racing is a sport though | |
| --- 26506625 | |
| >>26506615 | |
| Not all race cars are sports cars anon. | |
| --- 26506632 | |
| >>26506625 | |
| Correct, you could race a lawnmower, it doesn't make it a racemower though. | |
| A sports car has to be designed purely for sports use. It's simple. | |
| --- 26506638 | |
| >>26506632 | |
| If you're unironically arguing that the Hudson Hornet, one of the most famous race cars of all time, is in fact not a race car, then you're just trolling. | |
| --- 26506696 | |
| The engineers at Welter Racing knew their Group C entry WM P88 was never going to win Le Mans through lame shit like "reliability" or "handling", so instead they optimized their car to hurtle down the Mulsanne Straight as fast as humanly possible. The race very quickly went down the drain with one car suffering from sudden transmission detonation and the other pitting from engine problems, but after hours of repair work they managed to get the second car up and running and there was still time to attempt an outright speed record to get the car at least some recognition, so the order was given to turn up the boost and go for a few balls out sprint laps. The car was eventually measured at a ridiculous 407 km/h, effortlessly breaking the old record before immediately nuking its engine beyond repair, right on cue. | |
| The speed record was later slightly downplayed to "405" km/h so their sponsor Peugeot could use it in their marketing literature for their 405 family sedan, and it ended up being THE undefeatable record as nobody could touch it the following year (the Sauber C9 just barely touched 400 km/h in practice runs) and the 1990 circuit was amended to break up the monster straight with two chicanes to reduce terminal speeds, forever cementing the WM-P88's achievement. | |
| --- 26506735 | |
| >>26506638 | |
| It wasn't designed purely for sports use, so it wasn't a sports car. That's just the simple truth. | |
| It was a road car used for a purpose it just wasn't made for. | |
| --- 26506741 | |
| >>26506735 | |
| And won over 80% of the time thanks to being the best-handling car of the era, so I guess that shows how much good the category means. | |
| --- 26508531 | |
| >>26506421 | |
| race cars | |
| that 917 was developed for racing and racing only, and only one guy ever managed to even get it registered for street use | |
| --- 26508536 | |
| >>26506638 | |
| he is, you can filter his posts by making the keywords "let's be honest" | |
| --- 26508609 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| Because it sent Porsche back crying to their mommy | |
| --- 26508697 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| The Mazda 787B was so great it had to be banned, because everybody knew that rotaries were the next step on the evolution of race engines, but nobody wanted to admit it. Also glorious sound. Honorable mention for the Peugeot 908 HDi FAP for winning against Audi at it's most dominant | |
| --- 26508704 | |
| >>26506034 | |
| >Crawl over the fuel tank to get in | |
| Those things were ridiculous but fuck they were good. | |
| --- 26508724 | |
| >>26508704 | |
| that's not even the worst part | |
| in early versions they used the frame tubes to hold the engine oil which enabled them | |
| a) to find out if their frame was weakened - if oil pressure dropped unexpectedly there was a hole in your frame and therefore your frame was weakened and | |
| b) to save the weight of an oil pan and | |
| c) to distribute the oil's weight evenly across the car | |
| d) to cool the oil more efficiently - those tubes have a much larger surface volume to radiate heat off of than an oil pan does | |
| They stopped doing this after the drivers complained they were being cooked inside with all the tubes of hot oil surrounding the cockpit lmao | |
| --- 26508736 | |
| >>26508724 | |
| The driver really was the weakest link in those things | |
| --- 26508741 | |
| >>26508724 | |
| I knew the tube frames were built to be exactly strong enough and no heavier, so they inflated the frame and had a little frame pressure gauge on the driver's dash that indicated compromised frame integrity if it dropped suddenly, but I don't believe they did that with the oil through the entire thing. | |
| Some frame tubes did pull double duty as oil lines though. | |
| --- 26508814 | |
| >>26508697 | |
| >The Mazda 787B was so great it had to be banned | |
| That car would have gotten banned regardless if it won at Le Mans that year or not. | |
| FIA were just retarded for getting tricked into the NA 3.5 rules for Group C by Bernie | |
| --- 26508816 | |
| >>26506533 | |
| Back in 1994, Penske Racing entered the Indianapolis 500 with a bespoke engine intended to exploit the rulebook to its fullest extent for total domination. The rules governing engines were a bit more relaxed for production derived "stock block" engines, but Ilmor (the engine manufacturer) and Penske realized that they could actually design a purebred racing engine that would technically qualify as a "stock block" as long as it had pushrods on it. This let them run more boost on more capacity, making it by far the most powerful engine on the grid. Despite the handling issues stemming from a one-off engine that wasn't used anywhere else on the CART calendar being shoved into a chassis designed for a different engine, the Ilmor 265E-powered Penskes with Mercedes-Benz stickers on them absolutely pulverized everything else the competition could muster. | |
| Unsurprisingly, the rules were appended to turn down the boost on purpose-designed pushrods for the following year and Roger Penske got really mad about this as he had planned to sell more engines to other teams for assloads of money. | |
| --- 26508911 | |
| >>26508816 | |
| why would he get mad about it? Mercedes, (the ones who payed for the engine's development) knew it would be useless after that one race. they wanted the publicity so they essentially payed a couple million dollars to win just one race (a very prestigious race, but one race nonetheless) . | |
| --- 26508921 | |
| >>26508816 | |
| >>26508911 | |
| also worth noting, that shit is what made people lose faith in CART, and further contributed to the Indy/CART split. | |
| --- 26509042 | |
| >sauber have seldom made anything close to a road car | |
| >now they might have their name erased by krauts | |
| >again | |
| --- 26509098 | |
| >>26508921 | |
| Also. The secret engine project had been hidden from all but a handful of people at Penske Racing. After the parts and pieces were designed and manufactured by Ilmor in England, they were shipped to Reading, where the engines were being assembled and prepared in a small, nondescript garage several blocks away from the race shop to avoid detection. The space was so small and dark, they jokingly called it the Taj Mahal. | |
| Oder remembered being informed of the top-secret engine. | |
| “Clive [Howell] said, ‘Guy, come with me, we need to have a talk.’ He led me toward his office. I’m thinking, ‘God only knows what this is about!’ because there’s always some kind of drama. We passed the door to his office and went down an aisle that leads out of the building. I’m thinking, ‘This is interesting. Maybe we’re going over to the truck-leasing office?’ We walked into a grassy area and he turned to me and said, ‘The walls have ears . . . and you’re privy to this.’ As we went forward, anytime anybody new was brought into the loop, they were taken into his office and threatened with dismissal or bloodletting if anything got out!” | |
| Though certain members of the race team would join the test squad occasionally, the responsibilities fell to Oder and his small band of four other men to run the tests. | |
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| >>26504547 | |
| >be v10, unbeatable at Nurb24 | |
| >yuros cry, restrict 'Chrysler' Viper to 90L fuel tank | |
| >enter as 'Dodge' Viper | |
| >trollface.jpg | |
| >yuros cry harder | |
| >new rules say engine capacity can't be larger than 6.2L and must use production engine block | |
| >yuros think they kill snek | |
| >remove two pistons, rods, etc and plug valves | |
| >now 6.2L V8 | |
| >still dominate yuros | |
| the saga of the world's only V8 Viper | |
| --- 26509471 | |
| >ends gt1 by domination | |
| --- 26509613 | |
| Brawn GP | |
| --- 26509745 | |
| >>26508697 | |
| No, the car wasn't that good. The engine wasn't fast enough it needed turbos. The only reason it won Lemans is because Ecclestone and Mosley tried to enforce F1 engines "to reduce cost"(more like prestige against F1) that fucked everybody reliability. Remember even a F1 managed to win lemans Overall. | |
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| >>26506498 | |
| and a dressing maker. based. | |
| --- 26509753 | |
| REMINDER: Always attend historic race events, its the only way to properly hear these cars IRL | |
| https://www.goodwood.com/motorsport/festival-of-speed/tickets-and-packages/ | |
| --- 26509757 | |
| >>26504606 | |
| Fucking Based, AF, unironcally. | |
| --- 26510084 | |
| >>26509471 | |
| V12 or v8 love both of them. | |
| --- 26510191 | |
| >>26509745 | |
| >that fucked everybody reliability | |
| Then they should have built rotary engines too, instead, of insisting in their unreliable piston engine meme and getting so salty about losing to a Japanese manufacturer that they had to beg the FIA to ban rotary engines | |
| --- 26510640 | |
| >>26509471 | |
| >>ends gt1 by domination | |
| The CLK GTR. That actually struggled a bit against McLaren. | |
| What really killed GT1 was the CLK LM and that's mostly because everybody else pulled out. Each win in 1998 was just a participation trophy. | |
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| >>26509042 | |
| >now they might have their name erased by krauts | |
| Sauber has always been the biggest slut in F1. | |
| At one point or another, they were the de facto Mercedes team, then the Red Bull team, then the BMW team, then the Alfa Romeo team, and now about to be the Audi team. | |
| --- 26512979 | |
| >>26510679 | |
| This | |
| --- 26513165 | |
| For me, it's the GT40. I wish Ford v Ferrari had spent more time on its development because there were a lot of great bits that went untold. | |
| >28 year old Bruce McLaren joining the team amidst founding his own F1 team | |
| >Dan Gurney having to modify the bodywork because he was too tall to fit in it | |
| >The bundle of snakes exhaust system needed to optimize the exhaust | |
| >The unprecedented 7.0L engine pushing 212 mph down the Mulsanne | |
| --- 26513193 | |
| >>26506498 | |
| >it's the Newman's Own guy | |
| Holy shit. | |
| --- 26513194 | |
| Won every single race in the Procar series. | |
| --- 26513206 | |
| >>26506498 | |
| >At the age of 70 years and eight days, Newman became the oldest driver to date to be part of a winning team in a major sanctioned race,[73] winning in his class at the 1995 24 Hours of Daytona.[74] | |
| i'm not even thirty and can barely get out of bed in the morning, god damn | |
| were people back then just built differently or what | |
| --- 26513368 | |
| >>26504535 | |
| Undeniably based | |
| --- 26513385 | |
| >>26506533 | |
| The car is cool unto itself, but it was just Roger Penske leveraging "my party, my rules" to ensure that nobody else in CART could outshine them. That kind of behaviour was what caused the split. | |
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| >>26509471 | |
| this is easily the most chinese supercar the germans have ever produced | |
| everything about it was copied from others homework | |
| --- 26515151 | |
| >>26513368 | |
| This | |
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| >>26506407 | |
| kek | |
| --- 26516517 | |
| >>26506421 | |
| dick-sucking mass replier, kill yourself | |
| --- 26516526 | |
| >>26506696 | |
| i am erect | |
| --- 26517237 | |
| For me, it's the HDi FAP (hehe) | |
| --- 26517249 | |
| >>26504606 | |
| Use greentext next time friend. | |
| >like this | |
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| >>26517237 | |
| Based | |
| --- 26520110 | |
| >>26513206 | |
| Healthier food probably. Soil depletion is a bitch. Everyone alive today that isn't pounding vitamin supplements is probably malnourished in one way or another. | |
| --- 26520111 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| I just think its cool + I have a painting of it (in this livery) above my bed | |
| --- 26521429 | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cplZGXsLKA.. [Embed] | |
| --- 26521458 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| Audi 90 IMSA GTO | |
| Or | |
| Porsche 916 | |
| >>26504606 | |
| Maybe the Ford GT but otherwise it’s not a contest | |
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| >>26521458 | |
| Good taste | |
| --- 26523386 | |
| Dino 206S | |
| --- 26523830 | |
| >>26523194 | |
| john player special nice | |
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| >>26523194 | |
| >60s style of testing 25 years later | |
| that car was fucking insane very hard to argue against | |
| --- 26524715 | |
| >>26523386 | |
| Cool | |
| --- 26524727 | |
| >>26505913 | |
| *beep-beep* Outta the way, fucking Toyota shitters! | |
| --- 26526379 | |
| >>26509753 | |
| Cool | |
| --- 26526385 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| because it flies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTSdaILo4L4 [Embed] | |
| --- 26526393 | |
| >>26526385 | |
| Wrong GT1 | |
| --- 26527410 | |
| >>26524727 | |
| Based Jag | |
| --- 26527723 | |
| >>26523386 | |
| Gorgeous. Would cuddle lovingly. | |
| --- 26528043 | |
| >>26509461 | |
| >posts the wrong car like a stupid nigger | |
| --- 26528048 | |
| >>26527723 | |
| SOUL | |
| --- 26530201 | |
| >>26524727 | |
| >>26527410 | |
| Remember when Bud Light sponsored sports car racing instead of dick chopping trannies? | |
| Pepperidge Farm remembers. | |
| --- 26530474 | |
| >>26530201 | |
| Good times anon. | |
| --- 26532376 | |
| >>26509745 | |
| >Other teams lost an "endurance" race because their engines were not reliable | |
| >The most reliable car won the "endurance" race | |
| A literal case of Turtle vs Hare | |
| --- 26532378 | |
| >>26509745 | |
| >wins an endurance race by enduring the race | |
| that's the whole point retard | |
| --- 26532381 | |
| >>26509461 | |
| Reminder the viper never beat the e46 GTR | |
| --- 26532405 | |
| >>26509745 | |
| >The only reason it won Lemans is because Ecclestone and Mosley tried to enforce F1 engines "to reduce cost"(more like prestige against F1) that fucked everybody reliability. | |
| Everyone except Peugeot got an exemption to run their original Group C cars and engines | |
| --- 26532406 | |
| >>26506407 | |
| >crowdstrike | |
| --- 26532414 | |
| >>26509613 | |
| everybody got real quiet... | |
| --- 26533155 | |
| >>26532405 | |
| Yeah, with an extra 150-200 kgs of ballast in an effort to ensure that the 3.5L cars wouldn't be thoroughly embarrassed by the old guard. Mazda successfully managed to argue that akshually the ballast rules technically only apply to piston engines and rotaries weren't covered by that rule, so they got to run at design weight instead of wrecking their suspension with a shitload of unnecessary extra weight. | |
| --- 26533206 | |
| It's hard to argue with the 956/962. They dominated every series and class you could enter them in, and were still winning races over a decade after introduction. | |
| --- 26533342 | |
| >>26520111 | |
| Same, 917-042 just feels a little more special than the others. What's your painting look like? | |
| --- 26533347 | |
| >>26533266 | |
| Wrong R32 | |
| --- 26533369 | |
| The Mk2 Ford Escort might be the most successful rally car of all time across all levels of competition, maybe tied with E36 BMWs (By this I'm counting amateur and regional events, obvious the Delta Integrale is the most successful in the WRC but they're very rare in lower division events). They're still just about unmatched in RWD rally classes. | |
| --- 26533396 | |
| >>26508531 | |
| There are actually 2 road legal 917s, chassis 030 (the Count Rossi car) and chassis 037 (owned by Claudio Roddaro) | |
| --- 26533926 | |
| >>26533155 | |
| It was more like Mazda was unremarkable and nobody expected them to do well anyway so they gave them the weight reduction. | |
| --- 26533970 | |
| >>26504580 | |
| >never won Lemans | |
| Better luck next time, pasta-niggers. | |
| --- 26534320 | |
| >>26533155 | |
| Then the other teams should have run rotaries as well, instead they whined like little bitches and almost killed endurance racing | |
| --- 26535009 | |
| "The 936 and 935 were the cars that helped establish the dominance of that era and were Porsche's top contenders from the mid-'70s after the 917 and customer 908 and 911 into the early-'80s before the 956 and 962. Between the 936 and 935, Porsche won Le Mans 4 times in 6 years. The 936 alone having won more times than the 917 and just as many times as the 962. The 935 won Daytona 24 a record 6 times, all in a row. It's tied as the winningest car at that race only matched by the Riley MkXI almost 30 later and it had to use multiple different engine suppliers. | |
| Yet completely gloss over those stats and instead bring up the 917 because it had that meme livery once." | |
| --- 26535379 | |
| >>26535009 | |
| Based 935 is a GOAT'd racecar. | |
| --- 26535487 | |
| >>26535009 | |
| >only matched by the Riley MkXI almost 30 later and it had to use multiple different engine suppliers. | |
| as oppose to the multiple different 935 chassis built and modified by different people other than porsche. | |
| --- 26536004 | |
| >>26535379 | |
| Based International Marijuana Smugglers Association | |
| --- 26536982 | |
| >>26535487 | |
| pretty much .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4sr4vSThWM [Embed] | |
| --- 26537024 | |
| >>26508697 | |
| >Rulebook change | |
| >Rotaries to be banned in 1992 because the FIA Is an awful organization that intentionally restricts automotive development refinement through motorsport | |
| >EVERY car has to be hodgepodged together to meet last minute rulebook change to protect the sanctity if faggotula-1's top of the pyramid horseshit | |
| >Jaguars and porsches needed a ballast that fucked their handling | |
| >allowed to run over 150kg underweight because NA | |
| >still not on pace with rest of field | |
| >Only won because the mercedes broke | |
| >Never won another race ever again | |
| --- 26537048 | |
| >>26537024 | |
| >>Never won another race ever again | |
| Because rotaries got banned for being too good, duh. | |
| --- 26537101 | |
| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| A "race" car that was so bad it's kinda cool | |
| --- 26537149 | |
| >>26537048 | |
| it raced the rest of the season and sucked more dick than your mom. Zero wins other than the fluke at lemans, zero fastest laps, however unlike your mom though, it got zero poles. | |
| --- 26537984 | |
| >>26537024 | |
| >shitty euro manufacturers rely oh their unreliable turbo engines to compete | |
| >it fails them | |
| >Mazda uses their reliable NA rotary engine | |
| >it doesn't break and lead them into victory | |
| >"i-it was a FLUKE" | |
| They should have simply built better engines if they wanted to win, but don't worry, you can still cope by saying that whatever shitbox you love won the other, unimportant races | |
| --- 26538006 | |
| >>26537984 | |
| >They should have simply built better engines if they wanted to win. | |
| They did. Jaguars V12 won races before and afterwards just like the Mercedes V8 Turbo did. | |
| Those Mazda Rotary just won one race, thats the definition of a Fluke. | |
| --- 26538068 | |
| >>26538006 | |
| Yeah, shorter, irrelevant races that didn't grenade their engines, when push came to shove Mazda was the only manufacturer to develop a proper engine, and it was rewarded for that with the Le Mans victory | |
| --- 26538081 | |
| >>26538068 | |
| >Yeah, shorter, irrelevant races that didn't grenade their engines, | |
| Jaguar won Le Mans in 88 and 90 | |
| Mercedes won in 89 | |
| Porsche won from 82 to 87 | |
| --- 26538087 | |
| old cars look cool but they really are pigs | |
| --- 26538114 | |
| Anything Porsche really. You may not like it but no manufacturer is more successful in motorsport | |
| --- 26538119 | |
| >>26538081 | |
| None of them won Le Mans 91, they all broke down, as the unreliable shit heaps that they are | |
| --- 26538130 | |
| >>26533970 | |
| >win Le Mans 4 times | |
| Cute :3 | |
| --- 26538137 | |
| >>26538068 | |
| >when push came to shove Mazda was the only manufacturer to develop a proper engine, and it was rewarded for that with the Le Mans victory | |
| The 787 shat itself in its first LM race | |
| --- 26538142 | |
| >>26538068 | |
| >One win | |
| >thanks to your competition having problems | |
| --- 26538147 | |
| >accidentally brutally mogs ferrari and everyone else | |
| --- 26538151 | |
| >>26537984 | |
| Mazda had been running rotaries in the prototype class for almost 10 years before they got their 1 win and their cars sucked, the 767 being their first with the 4-rotor in fact lost to the 757 3-rotor ran by an independent team kek | |
| they tried running a 4 rotor after the 787 and it also sucked | |
| RX-7's were more successful in their racing than the any rotary prototype | |
| 787 worship is just weird, it wasn't that great | |
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| >>26538137 | |
| Yes, but it didn't shat itself in the race that actually mattered, which can't be said from the unreliable shitheaps from their competition | |
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| >>26538163 | |
| Winning once because your competition had problems is a fluke m8. No matter how butthurt that makes you. | |
| Jaguar won Le Mans 7 times with their "unreliable shitheaps". | |
| Porsche won 19 times, kek. All with their "unreliable shitheaps" | |
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| >muh 787B | |
| >most bestes racecar ever!" | |
| >rotating engine so based and clever | |
| >glorious nippon folded steel quad turbo v8 rotary is just the bestu! | |
| The definition of a fluke and a show car. | |
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| >>26538169 | |
| >Winning once because your competition had problems is a fluke m8 | |
| Nah, that's proof that they built unreliable shitheaps, which Mazda didn't, building a superior race car that could actually withstand 24 hours of racing | |
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| >>26538188 | |
| >building a superior race car that could actually withstand 24 hours of racing | |
| Once, yes. Fluke | |
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| >>26538198 | |
| A thing that none of their rivals was able to do, seeing as they all broke | |
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| >>26538208 | |
| Except pretty much all of the 787's rivals won more than once. Hence: not flukes. Me thinks you are a bit challenged, mentally | |
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| >>26506315 | |
| Greatest GT2 car | |
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| this is (you) | |
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| >>26535487 | |
| Except for the space-frame chassis like JLP, they all followed the same chassis construction often using the original Porsche-built chassis. As such, all of them were homologated under Group 5 rules (or downgraded to Group 4 rules where applicable). | |
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| >>26538130 | |
| >Ford gets unlimited capacity engines banned | |
| >VAG doesn't get anything banned and is allowed to continue racing | |
| gee, i wonder why Ford only won 4 times. | |
| >>26538248 | |
| still, at least the Riley cars were actually the same cars. | |
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| >>26538393 | |
| >I CAN'T DO WHAT VAG DOES!!!! THE ONLY THING I COULD COME UP WITH GOT BANNED | |
| Pretty weak cope. If unlimited capacity engines hadn't been banned what do you think would have happened next? That's right, Porsche would have absolutely assraped your shitmobiles again. Only this time with an "unlimited capacity engine". | |
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| >>26538539 | |
| The GT dominating so hard it got unlimited capacity engines banned paved the way for the 917's 5 liter engine "totally a GT car" loophole. | |
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| >>26504562 | |
| Beautiful, tfw I'll never live in a time beauty prevailed | |
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| >>26538218 | |
| Yes, the 787 rivals won some races so short that their engines didn't even have time to break, but in a proper endurance race they broke down, and Mazda's superior engineering came out on top | |
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| >>26504524 (OP) | |
| >zero WRC stage wins | |
| Worthless. | |
| Captcha GT GAYJ | |
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| >>26538181 | |
| Of course it was. They could turn the rotor 90 degrees and reduce the center of gravity. They could added turbos to thing(going by how those things are hold up today it was totally doable with at least 1000hp. | |
| 26 was in the end two 13b glued together | |
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| >>26506034 | |
| 908 is superior and P68 is sexier | |
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| >>26538539 | |
| >again. | |
| they've never beat Ford before the ban. also Porsche got cucked by a 4 cylinder toyota>>26505913 as would all of europe if it were allowed to race in le mans. | |
| >inb4 cope response | |
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| >>26538709 | |
| So what makes the 1991 24 Hours of Le Mans different from the ones prior to that, where Jaguar, Porsche or Mercedes won? | |
| To be honest, the 91 was less of a challenge since they added chicanes to the long straight, so they had less time at full throttle | |
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| Not just GTU rx7s but first gen rx7s in general. Caused endless cope and seething throughout the world, while on its way to becoming the winningest IMSA car of all time. | |
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| >>26538834 | |
| >P68 is sexier | |
| Agreed | |
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cv0dzvih0s.. [Embed] | |
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| >>26537984 | |
| >runs over debris on track | |
| >BUH BUH THE ENGINES | |
| retard faggot | |
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| >>26539829 | |
| Should have built a more reliable one then, like Mazda did | |
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AquI49zoaAo [Embed] | |
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| >>26538393 | |
| >still, at least the Riley cars were actually the same cars. | |
| But they weren't. Each different engine required it's own running gear and associated cooling requirements which is why when a chassis is powered by a new engine, it was often reassigned a new chassis number (especially the case if it came later during the DP era and given the new upgrades). | |
| It's like how the Jaguar XJR-14 and Mazda MXR-01 have the same TWR-Astec chassis, but are actually different cars. | |
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| >>26541612 | |
| >unning gear and associated cooling requirements | |
| this does not actually change the chassis itself. unlike the 935, which received major chassis upgrades and modifications, by a third party no less. Porsche received help in the 935's success, Riley didn't. | |
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| >>26541663 | |
| >this does not actually change the chassis itself. | |
| In several cases, it does. | |
| You ever see a stripped early-gen DP car? The actual chassis is literally just the central tub. Everything aft the the rear bulkhead would be changed to accommodate whatever engine is being run. The rules at the time allowed the cars to have different subframes as needed. This is how much of the upgrades the cars would receive over the years would be employed. By the time all is said in done, you will have a completely different car and, in many cases for the Rileys where an older chassis is used as a donor, it could mean a change in model designation and chassis number as well. | |
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| >>26533970 | |
| >doesnt win lemans in that year | |
| >but wins daytona ez pz | |
| the Italians were playing 5d chess | |
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| FIA fucked up big time with the 1994 ban and it ended in blood. | |