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/fgds/ - Fat Gardens: Fat Plants and Bugs General (ft. Snakes)
Screw Veganism and Bug Eating Edition

Last thread: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/55615668

We’ve married fatbug and fatgarden into one realized fat general and added snakes. In this thread, we are going to recognize veganism and bug eating for the unnatural “lifestyles” and scams that they are. How they’re pushed by big companies to make you weaker, how they ironically cause more harm to the ecosystem than you can imagine, and how unpleasant they are to think about in general. I’m sure our plant/bug brethren would be thankful too to be the ones eating instead of being eaten themselves.

Rule of 72: any /fdgs/ thread that doesn’t last at least 72 hours from other than hitting the bump thread will have an encore thread. The encore thread will start again on Monday at 5:00 p.m. EST and must reach the same post number as the thread it replaces by 11:59 p.m. same day

QotT: How would you discourage others from practicing these unsightly diets? Would you show them the fat plants and bugs that they might be putting in harms way?

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/_B0CyOAO8y0 [Embed]

Fatgarden CYOA:
Prologue: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/50644325/#50645863
Part 1: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/50655969/#50656016
Part 2: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/50655969/#50684433
Part 3: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/50736938/#50737624
Part 3.5: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/51002766
Part 4: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/51314426/#51315193
Part 5: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/51467229/#51467357

Slither Bomb: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/53116820/#53116900

Adult Caterpillar Summary: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/55615668/#55644288

Botanian Conception: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/55615668/#55649260
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And as always, if you have obscured talent to share, post it here
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Ectoplasmicresidue
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>>55781069
SauceNAO is the greatest thing to happen to this site
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>>55781178
Wouldn’t you agree?
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Does mothra count?
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>>55782037
Hell to the yes, and thanks for posting a piece I already had ready. Now I don’t need to worry about it
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>>55782037
mothra DEFINITELY counts
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>>55782650
>>55782635
>>55782037
What are her thoughts on veganism/bug eating?
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>>55782712
Moths are herbivorous insects. If Mothra were carnivorous, she would likely be more akin to a preying mantis or mosquito.
So like, yknow, its likely a normal thing for her? The question would be more about her thoughts on eating meat
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>>55783269
I should’ve figured as much. Real moths eat leaves and some moths don’t eat anything. But there’s a distinct difference between being an actual herbivore and being a pompous vegan.

How would she feel about the synthetic slob vegans are forcing themselves to eat in the name of the animals while the process to make said synthetic goyslop ironically displaces a lot more animals than any other food processes? I understand that kaijus are metaphors for the environment, but veganism is worse for the environment than you’d think
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>>55779954 (OP)
Damn it, forgot to change the thread theme. Here’s the new one:

https://youtu.be/wZR_nlNUx4M [Embed]
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Would a vegetarian be less likely or more likely to become a plantfucker?
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>>55783883
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>>55783509
Mothra would believe that people should eat according to their nature, like, omnivores eat meat and vegetables and should eat both (not only one), carnivores eat meat, and etc. So she would see the concept of omnivores going full vegan as something ridiculous. Idk what she would think about the enviroment damage considering that godzilla and other kaijus tend to destroy stuff pretty often. So, um, hard question?
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>>55783922
It was a hard question, but thanks for your response it’s a good one. Kaiju are simply metaphors for environmental damage like how Godzilla was for nukes.

>>55783682
I don’t think they have the libido to fuck anything anymore.

The better question is would a plant be willing to fuck a self-righteous vegetarian?
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Btw title said "ft. Snakes" and snakes i shall deliver
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>>55784212
Don’t be afraid to post the real chonkers, snake anon. By the way, are you the same snake anon that wanted to larp as a fat naga in those threads a while back?
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>>55784299
Uhh, im not *the* snake anon, im just another anon.
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>>55784193
Ah sure, a plant would maybe be willing to fuck a self-righteous vegetarian.
The difficult part for the plant would be listening to the constant stream of "this is so great, and by the way it's perfect because i'm a vegetarian" references.
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Plants eat sunlight and sometimes meat.
Bugs eat leaves and sometimes meat, honey, and nothing.
Snakes eat whatever they can wrap their greedy maws around that moves.

Vegans eat synthetic garbage, lie to you about how good it is, and get angry at you when you don’t agree. I was saying before how the vegan diet is actually more detrimental to the environment, but here’s an article further explaining. The thing I want to highlight most is how vegan goyslop pushes out innocent plants, destroys insect ecosystems, and murders other small animals like snakes. You can see why it needs to be avoided at all costs now https://carnivoreaurelius.com/veganism-kills/
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>>55784456
Iirc some herbivore animals tend to eat meat sometimes too so...
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>>55784431
Guayo, hasn’t posted anything since 2017

That’s funny. Imagine being a fat carnivore plant trying to date and the first words out of his mouth are, “I’m a vegan, which is great because you’re a plant.” Then he gets pissed at you for eating meat so you have to explain not all plants can subsist on water and sunlight but he arrogantly proposes that you can with is shit he got from Pfizer
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>>55784627
Trust me, if any animal out there could eat meat, they would. Unless they’re retarded affronts to natures like koala and panda bears
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>>55784729
Rhil used to be a lot skinnier, but work stress was too much
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>>55784856
She’s mackbeard3’s very first of apparently
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>>55734962
>I like it, and you can use it to sublimely hint that just because they are plant-based, they aren't going to get along all. Maybe the rules/thorns of the kingdom push people out
Of Course. I imagine she would favor other Roses more than other plant species 

>Are there gendered Botanicals?
Yeah. I Imagine they would since some real plants are gendered. so they would be no different. How Sexual Demorphized they are would probably depend. Maybe Wild and unusual Botanians will have subtle differences closer to real plant dimorphism while more civilized Botanian could start having more Human sexual dimorphism traits.
And if Man-eating plants do exist in this Setting I Imagine they are very sexualized 

?How did Humans end up in this feywild area?
At first, I imagine it just being a Different land in the sea but if it's meant to be more mystical, they would still be Pilgrims from the seas but they would've stumbled across an Ocean gateway into the feywilds waters perhaps unaware of such. making it hard if not impossible to establish connections to the human heartland
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Slushiipanda
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>>55784873
Being put away made her weight explode
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>>55785611
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>>55785637
I think this is her at her heaviest
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>>55785645
This looks way bigger than that
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Belly bump~
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GluttonousGuzzlord seems to be Making/uploading a Flowey Fattening Thing
so far only two parts on Their FA so I kinda want to wait to upload the full thing but it's looking good so far
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>>55787209
I’ve seen it. Looks good so far, but I agree we should weight
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>>55787431
Anyone else have any sequences that want to share.
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>>55788452
I got you
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I like horny math, but when is this guy going to do something with her?
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Despite being a fantasy fan, I tend to prefer a more science-fictiony setting for the chunky bugs that get posted. Industrialization means there's more food, medicine, and social support around. It's easier to imagine stuff like bug people that never pupate and remain Caterpillars because they can just order food and hang out online in air conditioned rooms.

>>55789443
>1371.5 burger units of weight
What could you even do with something that massive?

>>55782037
>>55782635
>>55783509
After going through a particular science fiction story, I've always wondered what would happen if an actual space deity showed up here. How would Mothra run the world if she was the one in charge of it?

>>55785270
>Humans arrived by sea
Works well enough, and if a good chunk of them showed up that way, whatever place they were leaving clearly sucked and shouldn't be returned to.

Let's start at the bottom and work out way up of Botanical society. For the people on the fringes, what does a day where they have to interact with the Carnivorous Botanicals look like? How big do the Carnivorous Botanicals get? What does the average frontier town look like before it gets fully settled?
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>>55789930
Mothra would prob be worshipped and treated as a god irl
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GIVE ME ALL THE GLAMBURGERS *BUWARP*
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>>55789930
>What could you even do with something that massive?
You mean besides the obvious? Isn’t fucking massive things what these thread’s about
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Haven’t seen much fat art of the Pale King, have we?
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>>55790694
Thinking about it, is there fat art of the spider from that one limbo game?
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>>55790789
This one? I sincerely doubt it, but I’ll see what I can find
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More synthetic garbage hate.

If an Adult Caterpillar were to drink this, she’d explode.
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>>55791408
(i spent like 5 minutes making this image just to reply to this post.)
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>>55791408
>plant based eggs

wait what, that doesnt make any sense.
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>>55791861
Thanks for posting new content then, stankbug anon, if that’s you. But seriously, it has 160 mg per serving which is almost 3 times what’s in a regular egg and all that extra garbage 
>J U 
>S T EGG
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>>55792065
There are, but those on the shelf aren’t the good kind.
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>>55792160
>>>/fit/70624026
>vegan
>honey
…I swear, the retardation of these people somehow finds a way to dial up
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With how rare food probably is in the Dead Lands, Deadlanders not making good meals. And probably Not being well fed by the wasp themselves It's surprising Hoaxe manages to maintain a Thin figure. you think about how much he takes about how Royalty is meant to be served. 
he would be rocking that Fat King look

Hoaxe Transcending, Overeating, Eversnacking~
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>>55782037
>Does the giant fat bug count?
C'mon anon its a no brainer
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>>55793131
You mean it’s NOT surprising that he maintains a lithe figure and how he should strive for the adipose rex look.

Speaking of, if I may make a request, when you finish with Hoaxe, maybe you could do the actual Queens next then finish with best bug queen, Layra II. Make her husband fat too if you’re going all the way
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>>55789930
>For the people on the fringes, what does a day where they have to interact with the Carnivorous Botanicals look like?
Traditionally feeding. Since they eat meat they can digest parts of Monster that doesn't have enough Magic to be distilled into Botanian food/ and is too inedible for human stomachs. So along with those working in front-line defensive, They're probably helping with the Butching of Monster/animals and given the normally inedible while there is a stigma to carnivorous Botanians. by those in the higher levels. and newcomers, Humans that work as Guards, cleaning up after bloody battles, hunters, and butchers tend to enjoy them more

>How big do the Carnivorous Botanicals get?
Hmm. I imagine Carnivorus Botanians tend to remain mobile levels of Big for the most part. Except for one or two that basically play the role of garbage disposal tend to get much heavier. Especially for the whole town's worth.

>What does the average frontier town look like before it gets fully settled?

Any outer walls if any are mostly Botanian-made Thorn walls heavily overgrown of Ivy Supported with wooden supports maybe a few Humanmade Defisives that are simple enough to make like barricade spikes, along with having a Fortified Building. (Maybe a Church, School, or Townhall?) to act as a Safe Spot for Civilians to run to in times of attack
with most houses being made of Clay reinforced with plant grown~ cause its simple and easy to settle up before they can move to more hardened building materials
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>>55793400
Took me, way too long to figure out what the hell you just said.
Do they say how long he had Power? so it's like not long enough for him to get big? is that what you mean?
But yes. He should be bigger, With both muscle and fat with how he swings that axe around

Hmm. Fat Royalty... Not a bad Idea I'll keep that in mind But I got commissions to do first, Anon
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>>55793598
I’d like to know more about the immobile garbage disposal cartanians
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>>55793755
Sorry I mean you were making the points in >>55793131 where:

>food is scarce in Dead Lands
>wasps don’t feed him
>it’s a surprise that he stays thin

Like with the two points before, it shouldn’t be too much of a surprise he’s not getting enough food to be the fat king he deserves to be.

Great piece, btw, please finish your commissions before doing the other stuff. I’d like to know what they are if you don’t mind
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>>55792828
The cluelessness has been going on for years.
I've met vegans who wore leather belts and sandals.
>captcha: KA24P
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>>55793804
It’s wild, but also kinda funny. Why kill an innocent snake for their leather when you can just wrap one around your waist free of charge?
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>>55793800
Ah, I get what you mean now.
I think something was Lost in translation or something, I kinda meant that I would've thought Hoaxe would've started to gorge himself on food once he mind-controlled the Wasps, to the point he started getting much better. But I can see where you're coming from


Don't get too excited only one has something fat. a Friend of mine wants me to draw his Toad Oc fat.
and the other is someone wanting me to make them a Logo. which I'm still waiting for them to Message me back
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>>55793762
Well, Most of the Botanian Lore is been me pulling things outta my ass. what's the harm in doing more~

Since Cartanians can feed on the parts of Monsters that neither Humans nor Botanians can't eat they sorta became the ones they use to get rid of monster meat so it doesn't just spoil and end up attracting other beasts

Since this is how they tend to maintain their Magic as supposed to water/ Sunlight/ and what can be simpler describe as magic compost they have to eat it. their Stomachs have changed to better handle stuff that would usually cause problems. stronger stomach Acids and Immune Systems. along with not being Turned off from Stale or Spoiled foods.
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>>55793914
A toad oc? There aren’t many of those. I’d love to see the finished product of that if you’re willing to share it

>>55793989
Thanks for expanding on the garbage disposal. I don’t want to leave it merely implied, how much bigger do garbage disposal cartanians get as opposed to their regular brethren and what kinds of lives do they live beyond eating what no one else can? They need love too because they’re not just disposals for which garbage goes in, they’re people too.
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>>55794156
Well, it's a Mario Toad so it would be a fit in the thread. I would probably wait for him to Upload it on his own account before I post it here though.

Hmm. Well, I have to think about that. I can certainly Imagine the Biggest Garbage Disposal Cartanians, being much bigger than other Cartanians. and even some Botanians. to the point of immobility. Something that tends to only be for more powerful/ important Botanians.
as Most Cartanaians do get fat but Rarely get Big enough to be Render immobile.

Since most get the roles in guards/Defensive work. being on the front lines of the protection of the settlement, Alongside Hunting with Humans.
Maybe they can have some Chief Roles. Something Rare for Botanians considering their Unusual diets, compared to humans and Cartanians, and Of course they need Love. Sadly they tend not to get it from Boatanians. and some humans typically from the higher levels and newcomers/outsiders.
but those who live with them Tend to love them
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>>55794362
>a Mario Toad
Top key, More dramatic irony from you. You really crack me up. Holy hell, if that’s the case, post them here when you can.

Fascinating, and thanks for giving them a select few people that love and care over them.
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>>55794453
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>>55797605
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Eggisu
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>>55792160
Who came inside her?
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>>55801173
i did
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>>55801201
How’d you enjoy her plant-based eggs?
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>>55802699
they tasted like watermelon
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>>55802769
Mmmm yummy WaterMelly
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>>55804560
No matter how much she exercised
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>>55805340
She couldn’t put away the fries
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>>55805415
Poor little spider gets no bitches
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Belly bump
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>>55808768
Yump bump
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Orukaniumu
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>>55811181
Mmmmm, plant-based pork
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>>55812434
Plant-based bacon
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>>55813012
More plant-based bacon
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>>55779954 (OP)
I want to feed Hornet an entire burger and then hold her morbidly obese body gently like a burger
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>>55813073
Like when Plankton swallowed a burger whole?
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>>55813169
Yeah, but with a sexy bug woman that I can pleasure myself with
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>>55813272
You don’t say?
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Is anyone else interested in sleeping fats or not? https://www.furaffinity.net/view/51792348/
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>>55814633
comfy to a comical degree
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imagine… macro fat bugs…
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>>55787209
Would you help Flowey spread his evil gluttony across the world?
If he told you smugly he wants to corrupt everyone and also become the biggest lifeform on the planet would you help him?
Do understand the punishment for saying no is death.
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>>55813813
Why is she laying on a pizza?
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>>55819612
Because she likes cheesy pickup lines
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>>55819612
She's a true fatass. She gets to sleep on a soft warm cheesy bed and then gorge on it like a pig when she wakes up tiny bite by tiny bite.
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>>55820508
She’s gonna eat and sleep at the same time
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>>55821206
sleep eating... gimme a fat gf who does that.
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>>55821226
Why not sleep feeding your gf into a fat one? Assuming she’s also into that.
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I wonder when the next male fatfur thread is coming
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>>55822550
Bloated bug feet
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>>55822842
I want to make Muffet addicted to her own baked goods.
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>>55822842
When someone gets a boner for male fatfurs.
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>>55822896
Like she isn’t already?
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>>55822872
nice feet
also goddamn that's some strong-ass webbing
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>>55823096
Her webbing needs to carry her mASS so of course it’s become strong.
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>>55822842
If you want a male fatfur thread, make one.
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>>55824354
Bees and ants together like milk and honey
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>>55826457
Widedragon’s Anna, who’s part plant https://nitter.net/widedragons/status/1647339084178653184#m
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>>55827005
So nitter isn’t allowing restricted tweets on it anymore, does anyone else have a twitter account to post the raunchier stuff?
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>>55827063
Actually, she just formed a fur affinity, so maybe she’ll post on it more?
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>>55827233
Sequence
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>>55827458
Conclusion
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>>55827005
>>55827063
>>55827233
>>55827458
>>55827931
Quite a meal
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>>55829192
Judging by her expression, it might be too much of a meal. I’m actually hoping we can get her owner in here.
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>>55829249
Cool, hope so too
In the meantime, I'm actually hoping someone dumps their fat scolipede folder in here because I'm bored.
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>>55829384
What do Scolipedes eat?
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>>55829668
I bet they love eating stuff like sweets and chocolate and so on.
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>>55830341
That’s cool, but they probably need proteins too, don’t you think?
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>>55830341
And theres one made by smokeybloke!
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>>55830425
Of course, of course, probably an average natural herbivore (but them being carnivores too would be an interesing twist.), but yknow what happens when people start a society, hehe.
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>>55830510
They like to go all out when they eat, don’t they?
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Anyway, Homeosaco just finished a trade in the primary female fatfur thread if you want to see it >>55830213 →
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>>55831398
Cute!
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>>55830622
To be fair, we do that too~
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>>55832443
Sorry, what do you mean “we”? Also, about to run out of power
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>>55830510

Centipedes are carnivores, actually. One larger species is somewhat famous for eating bats.

Considering this is pokemon though, I think all of them would classify as omnivores.
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>>55833322
Really? I’d love to see that anthropomorphized. Just the centipede, not the bat because then it would be vore.
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>>55833641
Yep, while they’re carnivores, they are also generalists, meaning they will eat anything they can kill. Bugs, lizards, frogs, birds, pretty much anything.

I feel like they fit this thread quite well. Just think of all the thick thighs.
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Buttersita01
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>>55835247
This guy is getting better and better
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>>55835272
An ideal kind of artist for this thread
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>>55829384
Gushee_
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>>55835272
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>>55818082
>macro big bugs
While I'm a big Macro/Micro fan, I just seem to get stuck when trying to world build around Macro Insects, let alone of the chunky variety. I learned long ago not to stress the minor details, but it's just a fan habit that I can usually explain/understand the intention of making rodents big or Hippos tiny, but I get some brain lock for bugs. Heck, there are very few Macro/Micro stories with Insect characters at all.

What would be a good scenario?

>an pro-insect being decides to help us fix the planet by making Humans tiny and letting some Bugs handle the big things, but a few find our old confectionaries irresistible?
>High oxygen, low gravity planets are much more common than anticipated, and with high tech comes dealing with the large population of obese aliens IN SPESS and maybe !Earth
>Just straight up Borrowers, with tiny Humans living in the hives and houses of the big bug folk, with varying degrees of interaction
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>>55838332
I like the first one where some kaiju, after helping the planet, decide to stay big. But I’d prefer that they’d only be slightly larger than the average human so they don’t destroy any buildings and actually get trapped in them more often than not. But you want MACRO macro bugs, right?
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>>55838795
Human sized Insects are usually much easier to accept for me. It's easy to imagine a bunch of them staying in a Caterpillar like form thanks to the low cost of food and not having to worry about being hunted, falling to the NEET life, ending like some of the pictures above us. I do recall seeing a similar setting on /tg/, where aliens end up fighting on Earth because habitable planets are extremely valuable. They could get real big for battles, but having to deal with Amazonian (about 12 feet or less) sized Bug folks who helped defend your town from other Monsters would be cool, like a twist on Godaigo Daigo. You could explore the dynamics of having to help such clearly powerful beings who still have monumental flaws that get them in as much trouble as they bail us out of. 


But I've got my fill of Human sized bug people with Blue Gender and Starship Troopers (even though that one has some surprise Giga in the films), so in this case I'd rather try and take the Macro if possible. Give me a setting where a Human fits on the hand/claw/appendage of a big bug person. Give them some powers while we're at it, but make the size difference MATTER. What's it like to live near a skyscraper sized Hive with a Queen who seems to call for your help an awful lot, could you live in the walls of the house of a very hungry Caterpillar and how would you help them throughout their days, could you manage not to get yourself stepped on by a clearly tsundere giant wasp who eats almost as much as she fights?
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>>55839518
Then let’s go with the Godaigo angle. Just with a very few sexy big bugs. Which ones would you like to focus on?
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>>55839881
Luna Moth might be a good candidate for a situation where Anon has ended up as their attendant. Being able to grow big to fight alien Kaiju from other worlds and organizations doesn't mean they don't need help afterwards with the side effects of the power and trying to live something of a normal life afterwards. Maybe the power burns a ton of calories, and add the regular anime sin of gluttony, and our assistant Hero Anon is probably coordinating food deliveries 
Intermixed with actually going out to eat to get some extra exercise in. Getting her to fit into restaurants might take some physical effort, and probably getting her out of them if an enemy Kaiju shows up in the middle of a meal, the height of disrespect. Of course, after that bar hopping / Kaiju big bottle battle, the enemy alien Kaiju have learned not to show up late on the weekends looking for a fight, though this does mean you might, actually will, get stuck pushing her away from the booze so she doesn't accidentally activate her powers and the whole town has to deal with a tipsy giant green Luna Moth with an abdomen big enough to cover an entire city block and a tendency to throw away clothing while inebriated
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>>55840447
Johndraw54 

And how much city destruction from drunken rampaging would you want? I’d personally like to keep it at a minimum.
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>>55840549
From the Luna Moth lady? She does little to no lasting damage to the town, but sometimes Anon gets caught up in compromising conditions at either of her sizes and can eventually smooth out any issues.

Just be careful when some of the other girls, and even the alien kaijus, try to scout you out from under her. It's pretty comfy
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>>55840732
What would her relationships with the alien kaijus be after the conflict ends? It’s not atypical in tokusatsu for the main heroes to befriend lesser antagonists once the show ends. In fact, teaming up with lesser antagonists can be a major plotpoint like with Donbrothers
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>>55840810
We’ll continue the discussion later, good night.
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>>55782037
A mothra so fat she could drown out Godzilla's roar with a mere fart...
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>>55842314
A Mothra so fat she can drown out Godzilla
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Boom
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>>55844453
BOOM, wake up.