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--- 57839204
whats your go to simplistic cheap but effective watch for a shtf scenario

mine currently is the casio w-218h picrel
22 dollars functions all the same as a gshock
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F-91W is the ultimate shtf watch
>battery 10 years, you will die before your watch
>small led, no EL that gives you away
>so slim it will never be caught on anything
>women love it
>can be used as a bomb timer
gshocks and casioaks are just tryharding gay navy seals too much and don't even get you on the list
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>>57839342
the cursed f91w government agent mod
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>>57839309
>10 years, you will die before your watch
... wat
>>57839204 (OP)
Honestly a mechanical watch with a decent movement will last longer. You can get them with service intervals longer than 10 years, and you can just keep using them. 
Honestly a slim dive watch is smarter than an electric that will run out eventually. You could argue for a solar, but you'll need a steel bracelet anyway since those resin bands crap out over time.
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>>57839204 (OP)
Rolex with nato strap
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>>57839472
why would you wear a rolex into such a situation

>>57839390
my worry with mechanical watches is one bad hit and the arms will get fucked up or the movement will get fucked up thus the superiority of the digital watch
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>>57839472
good tatse
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>>57839497
Theyre rugged, and if shtf why would you leave a rolex behind?
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>>57839204 (OP)
>Not solar
>No radio

Poors
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>>57839497
>why would you wear a rolex into such a situation
not him, but people often forget that Rolex' are made to be tool watches. They were always expensive in the same sense that ANY piece of precision equipment made for professionals is expensive. Just because their market shifted from Mariners needing Marine Chronometers to richfags trying to show off doesn't change what they were designed for.
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>>57839555
>>57839497
sure I guess I didnt take it that rolex made rugged watches but even then why do you want a $5000 watch that does the exact same thing as a $20 watch like id be worried that 5k watch is gonna break that 20 dollar watch is replacable
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>>57839583
my friend, shit has hit the fan
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>>57839497
>my worry with mechanical watches is one bad hit and the arms will get fucked up or the movement will get fucked up
Mechanical Watches are designed to be rugged. They're self-winding, you shake them to wind up their mainsprings, they are designed to handle a high level of G-forces. NASA Astronauts didn't take quartz watches to the moon, they took Omega Speedmasters
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I like my Suunto
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>>57839583
>id be worried that 5k watch is gonna break
trust me, that 5k watch aint gonna break, they're not made of Chinesium like your $20 watches are.
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>>57839309
>Women love it
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>>57839497
>is one bad hit
Proper dive watches are rated against, shock, vibration, and, particularly better than resin bands, pulls against the bracelet. I always wear a watch, exclusively mechanical, and it's not a problem, even when you are doing real shit like working on cars/machinery and shooting guns. Also the lume is nice compared to trading battery life for being able to read your watch during half of all the time ever.
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Mine
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>>57839629
Is that on a proper nato strap or is it a look alike? There's alot of rings on it
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I have a F91W with a broken strap in my range bag. For everyday wear, I have an older Seiko SNK and a hand me down TAG Heuer Link, neither of which are SHTF.
But then again, how long is this SHTF is going to last and how accurate does my watch need to be? My TAG is off by a few minutes a month, so it's "good enough" in that regard despite never having been serviced in the past 20 years
I have been looking at getting a G shock though. I like how this one looks and it's one of the few 2100 that doesn't have a negative display.
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>>57839642
Chink knockoff
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>>57839583
>>57839497
the Rolex Submariner is a tool watch designed for, as the name implies, navigation on the open ocean. They are required to pass various industry standard tests like COSC and ISO 6425. They are generally put under way more scrutiny than your cheap dollar store watches
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>>57839204 (OP)
F-91w or F-105w
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>>57839658
If it works it works, I just always recommend a nato strap because it retains both springbars. If one breaks the watch head doesn't fall away.
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>>57839612
>>57839662
you say that like g-shocks arent tough watches as it stands or even the standard casio watches
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>>57839708
and you're talking like rolex watches are built like Timex watches
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>>57839204 (OP)
>>57839592
Any triple sensor watch so long as you keep your altimeter calibrated would be useful for single-point resection assuming you live somewhere with meaningful elevation changes, but given they aren't shooting GPS/GLONASS out of the sky during civil unrest I plan on using my foretrex 401 and the six extra lithium AAAs I keep in an admin pouch in my backpack.
>inb4 autism, I have topo printouts and know how to use a map and compass too
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>>57839589
The last manned mission to the moon was in 1972 you retard. The first commercial quarts watch only hit the market in late 1969 after the first 2 moon landings had already happened.
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>>57839962
Okay and? The watches still passed NASAs certification and made the trip
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>>57839629
Nice. I'm only shocked(G) that it only has M battery with PS on. 
Do you have the light on autio?
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>>57839844
>GPS/GLONASS
This is your threadly reminder that gps/glonass use ground sourced updates for coordination of their own clocks. If those end the accuracy will wander to kilometers from meter in a few months.
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>>57840002
>The watches still passed NASAs certification
They were the only option on the market at the time you retard. That really isn't an achievement, and doesn't justify their use use over the much more cost effective options that exist today.
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I hate quartz watches because changing the batteries on them every year is a pain in the ass. I had to take mine to a Jewler every time because its meant to be water resistant and so every time the battery is swapped you also needed to swap the rubber gasket sealing it. I've had my Seiko 5 for a couple years now and I've never done any maintainance on it and she just keeps on ticking and keeping good time
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>>57839204 (OP)
Cheapest G-Shock I can find at Walmart. If I want something special I'd wear a Tag Heuer Formula 1x S my company gave me for a gift at 10 years.. I also was given a 5 year Bulova watch that has two small diamonds and an emerald to represent our company I use specifically at company meetings.
Point being, wear cheap shit that works lol
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>>57840088
>I hate quartz watches because changing the batteries on them every year is a pain in the ass.
What the fuck is your watch doing to burn through batteries that quickly?
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Why do you need to know the time in a shtf scenario?
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>>57839204 (OP)
Citizen Eco-drive. I don't have to change the batteries but get the accuracy and durability of a quartz movement.
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>>57840034
Hell yeah Invicta sub bro
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>>57840160
The reason for the shit battery life is probably because it used an analog clock face instead of a digital LCD, since those always burn betteries much quicker. 
My dream watch I eventually want to get is a Seiko Springdrive. It has the reliability and accuracy of quarts, with the mechanical nuance and perpectual nature of an automatic.
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Any casio is good.
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>>57839204 (OP)
>F-91W
I have been wearing these for maybe 8 years now.
The fucking pin that holds the band into place is fucking trash. It lasts maybe 6 months under extremis.
I don't know why I keep buying these things. It is a design flaw. Everything else is solid but its a critical fail.

looking for suggestions on a new watch. They are not the hype.
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>>57840049
Yes, that's why you have (and train with) backups for all your gear. I don't see how things like that should stop you from using GPS, starting fires with a bic, using pre-made tent stakes, etc., etc.
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>>57840204
I used to have a Timex analog watch that went a good 4-5 years without needing a replacement battery.
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>>57840049
Sauce? Big if true. The preppers I've interacted with have always acted like the satellites will always work short of them being shot down.
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>>57840049
>>57840259
Your watch doesn't need GPS to help you navigate. You just need to know what time it is in Greenwich, England vs what your local time is and then count the difference in hours by 20 degrees longitude (from clockwise if east of Greenwich, from anticlockwise if west) and it's accurate within 20 degrees. You can then use the position of the north star to determine your latitude. Thats literally why the first modern mechanical clocks were invented. Some watches have an extra hour hand you're meant to set to GMT for this exact purpose.
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>>57839962
speedmasters are still used in outer space btw. digital displays and batteries don’t do so well in the extreme temperatures of space, so mechanical watches are still the go to choice.

it’s a reliable backup and seeing how habitual pilots and astronauts can be, we will probably continue to see them using these things for decades to come.
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>>57839589
lol what a retard
You gonna argue the battle of Verdun was fought with mechanical so it makes them superior to quartz next?
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>>57840225
You can buy a bunch of springbars super cheap on ebay or Amazon. I'd suggest you get a nato strap as well for >>57839696 reasons. It would have to be a super thin nato strap though because the springbars on those don't provide much clearance
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>>57840325
>within 20 degrees
That gives you an equatorial positional accuracy of like, 1000 miles. 
>>57840301
>Sauce? Big if true
How do you think GPS works? GPS doesn't tell you where you are, it sends out timing signals of absurd accuracy, which are synchronized. You know how far you are from the satellites by the minute differences in the time signature of the various satellites signals and thus know where you are on the earth. If these timing signals are not regularly synchronized then the system drifts, not because their clocks are bad, but because the timing is so precise. 
https://www.gps.gov/applications/timing/#:~:text=Each%20GPS%20satellite%20contains%20multiple,receiver%20to%20the%20atomic%20clocks.
It mentions the synchronized time system. 
I had to deal with this BS when I was doing seismogrophic support, as the ground stations used GPS for timing.
--- 57840444
Used Rolex Oyster for $1200. Don't know why people buy $5000 meme watches or cope with $200 shocks. Either buy the Oyster or be happy with the $15 F91W. Anything else is cope.

Only notable exception being the Amphibia.
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>>57839204 (OP)
The one on my wrist. Currently using whatever the cheapest Casio on the shelf at Walmart was a decade ago (not the F-91W). The original band broke and the plastic cover over the screen has some deep gouges in it now, but otherwise it has worked just fine.
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>>57840442
Also
Lööm
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>>57840088
>doesn't service his mechanical watch in years
Well you should
>changes battery every year
Yo wtf
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>>57840442
>That gives you an equatorial positional accuracy of like, 1000 miles.
It depends on the latitude, if you want more accuracy, you just do the same thing but instead of setting your current time to your timezone, you instead set it yourself based on your exact local time (just set your watch to 12 noon whenever the sun is highest in the sky) and you can use more precise measurements. Its still a good skill to have when SHTF
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>>57840494
>Well you should
I should but I don't have to, when a watch battery dies, that watch is dead, when watch oil gunks up the watch just ends up slightly less accurate but it still works
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Got an GW B5600 nearly unworn for a good price on eBay, and while the strap doesn't completely suck like the resin ones I've got it on a Nato one now and it's become one of my most worn watches.
I previously wore a asio ae-1200wh which was a great beater for the price as well.
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>>57840325
>20 degrees
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>>57840325
>You just need to know what time it is in Greenwich, England vs what your local time is and then count the difference
That's just knowing your location with the same precision already but with extra steps
It's a good joke though if you're meming
Not easy to know who's meming and who's retarded these days
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>>57840523
>it still works
You're gambling on that in the long run of you don't service it though
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>>57840204
You would probably like these anon. I don't know much about them but I think they charge with hand movement
https://sequentworld.com/en-us
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>>57840548
>That's just knowing your location with the same precision already but with extra steps
Set your clock to 12 noon whenever the sun is the highest in the sky. You don't need to know your exact location for this. They literally teach you this exact kill in scouts ffs
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>>57840524
I want need to get another casio. I broke my a158 trying to fit a jubilee bracelet to it.
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>>57840712
I love my casios, cheapo seikos and Vostoks but the very day I have money to spare for a 36 mm (yeah wristlet) Datejust on an oyster bracelet with the white gold crown I will probably never touch any of them again. Thats the watch they have to pry from my cold, dead hands.
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>>57840785
Datejust with an engine turned bezel and black dial. They look quite nice on leather as well
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>>57839583
this applies to their stainless steel sports watches. they date from a time when this was still a thing though. after quartz became a thing rolex had to move up-market to survive and did this by re-positioning the brand. so even up the 70s you would buy something like a rolex as a top end absolutely dependable tool watch and you could even have a reasonable expectation of being able to afford one, provided you saved your money. since then they have become more and more of a status symbol. 

so it's not that case today. you can't even buy a rolex if you're a pleb; supply is deliberately limited and dealers have discretion as to who they sell to. dealers have waiting lists and for some models (daytonas) it can be years. there is nothing that any rolex can do that you can't find in a digital and better. durability and accuracy wise, quartz is just a much more effective option. you're not going to out-beat a g-shock and you can find iso-spec g-shocks if you need them.

however, they are still very nice watches and if you can afford them you have a reasonable expectation of wearing one (at least the stainless steel sports models) daily without breaking them. also shtf you could probably use one in trade.
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>>57840712
are you the berettafag with a million berettas?
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>>57839662
>navigation on the open ocean.
no anon it's a dive watch. it's intended to keep time underwater (no mean feat originally) and the bezel is for timing deco stops. you're maybe thinking of the yachtmaster but i am not sure that's the case either.
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>>57840785
36mm is the kino case size
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>>57840444
>Only notable exception being the Amphibia.
those are straight up good. nice anon.
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>>57841645
Thats my only beretta in the pic. You're thinking of burt in hg
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>>57839589
I only have a Seiko SKX007, G-Shock DW6600 and a Longines. My first expensive watch is going to be a Speedmaster. I just love the way it looks and it's got cool history.
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>>57839497
More than a few Vietnam vets came home with Rolex watches which were known as being a sports watch, stainless oyster case. Only in the 90s did they really turn towards a fashion/luxury status statement from a racing/diving/yachting status statement. I have a gold Rolex Datejust and a 30 year old Casio dive watch. I like the Casio.
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>>57839555
This.
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>AQ-100W
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For me, it's the CA-53W. It's nice to be able to do simple math when tired, and it looks cool.
The first one I had, the strap developed some cracks, and eventually the crack worked it's way across fully. I tried to replace the strap, but the attachment method seemed too tight. I couldn't deform the NATO strap enough to get the spring loaded pins on both sides of the face in place.
I didn't treat it very nicely on the ship. It's probably not good for the rubber to go through massive temperature changes, or go in the shower every day. I've treated the second one a lot nicer.
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>>57839497
90% of rolex you see posted are 100 dollar fakes
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Rolex hasn't been a tool watch for decades, if you want a Rolex as a tool watch go buy a Tudor for like 1/5 the price, they're pretty much made in the same factory but rappers don't brag about wearing a Tudor, so they're priced like tool watches instead of status symbols.
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Are there any knowledgeable anons who have experience with adding titanium casing you can buy separately? Do you have some good sources? It seems like a good idea to make my B5000 survive me.
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>>57842927
50% of which were bought for roughly 10x the price may I add
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>>57839204 (OP)
Probably my Hamilton Khaki for Analog, though my Casio Worldtimer is fantastic.
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>>57840661
>what is precision
Earth's circumference is roughly 22000 km, so roughly 1000 km per hour zone, so if your measurements are precise up to 5% (which i think is a generous assumption considering you also need to know gmt time) that's a little less than 50 km
If you think you can be in a situation were this is useful, you should have packed specifically designed tools for the job

Also do they really teach it?
Probably as a general example of problem solving, not as an actual tool one would use
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>>57843310
Bretty /fa/ collection ngl
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>>57843368
>Probably as a general example of problem solving, not as an actual tool one would use
Anon, its literally how people once navigated the globe. Its literally why the modern mechanical clock was invented. The British Parliment started the Longitude Project in an attempt to navigate the oceans better and John Harrison was awarded over a million pounds in todays money for his invention.
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>>57840078
Being the only watches around that could meet the standards set is an achievement in and of itself.
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>>57839844

The rangeman looks like a cow turd on the wrist. How distasteful.
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>>57842828

Ultrabasado and best itt.
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>>57839204 (OP)
This is my go to. A friend had one where the battery lasted 15 years (with daily sun exposure). In a true SHTF I would be worried about not receiving time signals but I doubt being a few minutes off a year is that much of an issue. (Nor I do think I'd last that long in the first place)
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>>57839629

I prefer chinkshit adapters and textile straps, they don't make the core stand out so much. A NATO easily adds 5mm or more in height, I hate it
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>>57843070
>titanium
Seconding this. They are fine as fuck, but I don't want to shell out so much money.
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>>57843788

Must have been a defective one. I have look up when the first solar Gs started appearing but fyi Casio doesn't give a battery life estimate on solar watches because all of them are still running and they can't yet reach a consensus

(Battery life under good use and good solar exposure, it's months or a year if they don't get sun)
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>>57843808

Not a true G. And you must know steel and titanium bezels resist impacts worse than a resin bezel. The toughest/most durable balance gshock you can buy is one with a resin bezel and a steel or titanium case, and id recommend no Bluetooth and that it is solar and multi band. That leaves you with the 5000 and some frogmans.
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>>57843876
Anon, what is even your point.
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>>57843876
No matter which G-Shock you get it'll be able to put up with a shitload of abuse compared to other watches.
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>>57843070

I don't like it because the titanium 5000-5600 bezels that are official from Casio come with cushioning that ends up rotting/degrading and they won't fit regular 5600-5000 module cases. Not even the steel ones. 

You'd haven't have to buy either chinktanium bezels or the fancy fashion ones, none of which come with Alpha Gel, the cushioning.

No cushioning translates to more energy being transmitted to the module upon impact, which on practical terms can translate to broken glass. 

As I said before the toughest gshock is the one that has a steel core but resin bezel, which should be considered a disposable item. You can perhaps get a nice titanium bracelet but the regular resin straps are design to also absorb shock if you drop the watch, so you're also detracting from it's toughness.

I would recommend resin straps with carbon fiber inserts. Those don't rot and if they did they'd still keep everything together.
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>>57843888
Ahh, now I understand. Thanks, anon.

Also, checked.
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>>57843881

My point is these new luxury gshocks with titanium and steel everything don't follow the same spirit the originals had (and the regulars still have), and that they're actually less tough than a regular cheap gshock in resin. So don't think you're getting betterer and tougherer just because you're forking hundreds and thousands.

I'm speaking of the 5600series , the squares. Digital frogmans are indeed top tier.
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>>57839204 (OP)
for me, it's gold painted plastic
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No other option besides the Spynet™ VideoWatch© that can store up to 2000 photos or 15 minutes of video. It also has a lie detector and bug detector among other things.
Found mine in the back of the closet after some good 10 years and it still works.
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>>57843901
I am the >>57843070
Thanks for the elaborate reply, I appreciate it. Beyond the durability, it is mostly for me how different materials age. Steel/titanium gets scratched in a way it gives it charm. Resin just looks like trash after a few years and I don't enjoy consooming new watch every five years or so. So I was thinking about getting a 5600 (ideally the one with the negative display and cleaner design, I know they can be worse, but I am just a sucker for them) and then strapping a chink titanium casing on them.
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>>57843936
And you can get the flexible Snake Camera© to take stealth pictures, but I don't have one.
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Mechanical watches need to be serviced and if it breaks, good luck getting spare parts.
Quartz watches have fewer parts so less likely to break but they require battery changes every few years. 
Gaskets will need to be replaced for both.
No, in a shtf situation what you want is the trusty sundial. No moving parts, no need to be serviced or battery replaced. Used since ancient times.
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I'm a level 100 gshockfag so here's a guide if you want a gshock for top toughness AND top durability, which are not the same. This is a list of things not all Gs have and in fact you'll have to evaluate a d research on your own, also choosing according to budget, aesthetics etc...

- steel / titanium case 
- screwback
- solar + multi band
- carbon fiber insert strap
- well protected glass OR bullbar
- aftermarket screen protector 
- resin bezel with as less parts as possible
- modular (don't get a one -off model)
- easily available and compatible replacements

Steel case because if you screw and unscrew the backplate/ bezel on resin cases too many times the threads get fucked and you lose the watch.

Screwback comes with the solid cases. Once you go black -ehem- screwback you can't go back. Every other G will feel like a toy. They also don't need as many seal replacements.

Solar and multi band for obvious reasons. Never change the battery, never change the hour. Always have exact time. (Only connected smartphones can do this, no regular watch)

Carbon fiber insert because it will still absorb the impact and it will not be cut / rot in the same way regular resin ages.

Well protected glass so it doesn't scratch (it will with time if it isn't, and we're talking about one G for life). Same for bullbars (Jays and Kays makes the best) and screen protectors. (They don't hurt the solar panel intake)

As for modular, the most modular Gs can use straps from other popular models and there's a lot of aftermarket options. Up to you really, you can always fork many hundreds for Frogman straps and bezels if you have the moneys
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>>57843980

Always think of combining hard with soft. The best is hard core with soft outer. If you want hard outer maybe consider a resin case, but it's by far not a big improvement. I always recommend steel or titanium cases because of the screw threads, mainly. 

I have a beater 5610 with a steel bezel and a bullbar (which is mandatory if you're all for durability) . I must tell you from experience that, while you're correct in regards to resin, steel and titanium may not age the way you think. They will look good for a while, then look good when scratched, showing wear , but 80% of the time the watch will look like a hunk of shit. You'll have to look for a high quality DLC coated bezel or use JG Gunkote or something to get it recoated from time to time. 

Again I know what you mean about wear and your only showing wear, but trust me it will look like shit (even to you) for most of its life, because the wear won't be aesthetic.
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>>57839309
no get a similar model with 50m water resist. f-91w buttons don't have seal and will get fucked up when used in water (inb4 cope anecdote about how it survived a dive once)

if you can go a little bit thicker, get a W-800H. 100m water resist means double seals on the buttons. it has 10 year battery but instead of its CR2025, you can shove a thicker CR2032 battery, the ones found on PC motherboards, and now it's 14 year battery. longer if you don't use the light or alarms of course.

>>57839555
lol that's only a tiny part of their history. it's funny if you look at their marketing, even 70+ years ago they were pushing this larp narrative to luxuryfags about how their watches are actually "tool watches" and totally not luxury items. tudors were used far more by military divers for instance because it was essentially rolex but without the luxury fluff.

>>57840225
been there, done that.
failure modes of those shitty casio watches if you actually use them:
- in a couple years the band will break
- in 2-4 years the springbar will fail (get thicker springbar)
- in 7-10 years the resin hole that holds the springbar will wear out and not hold it anymore. game over.

i found this thing which looks like your typical small casio but in steel case and 50m water resistant:
https://www.armitron.com/products/the-silver-rubik
the specs seems good but there is so little info about this thing. if you're american or something, do me a favor and try it.

>>57843393
at best it's good to know your general location in the middle of the ocean so you don't wander off too much. completely useless for land nav.
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>>57839204 (OP)
Wearing that right now kek
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>>57844039
Gib your top5 gshocks I can buy now. For durability and looks. Bonus points if at least somewhat minimalistic.
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>>57844241

No. You look for them and show us anons. 

Go to Shockbase, it has an excellent search tool.

Follow my above guide point for point and you'll find there aren't that many that fit the criteria
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>>57844248
>refuses to spoonfeed
Nigger, but also based.
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i like those sqaure g-shocks but i'm not a wristlet and that's a problem. the way the band curves down presses on the sides of my wrist to the point of pain. even strap adapters are like that and besides, they make the watch look retarded. i had to sell the watch.

i have to cope with wearing small casios or my 38mm skx modded out the ass. i hate giant watches. my perfect watch would be a small casio but with a real metal case, at least 50m water resist, sapphire glass (or acrylic, just not mineral), metal bracelet, solar or at least 10 year battery.
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>>57839204 (OP)
What does this have to do with Ukraine?
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>>57844241

I personally rock the new GW-5000 with a Jays and Kays bullbar, but even I haven't been able to tick all the boxes.

The light sucks shit and is very ugly, but LEDs don't fade, unlike older, awesome looking bluish green electroluminescence , which can fade with the years. (Remember, you're looking at just ONE G to use forever)

It also doesn't look as much and it's dark gray instead of black, which I really like.
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>>57844256


Because Shockbase exist and personal taste is crucial I encourage any anon to make up their own mind in regards of finding the perfect gshock. Also because there are many other factors to consider besides durability and toughness (the only ones I've focused on) such as:

-do you like hueg watches?
-or small? (Are you a wristlet)
- do you like tall watches?
- do you want big, accessible buttons?
- do you want the iconic central G light button?
- do you want a subdued look? Or eye bleach? Maybe retro?
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>>57844265
Cope you seething vatnigger faggot.
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>>57844261

6900 straps curve at a much wider angle and they are 100% compatible with 5600s
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>>57844316
Thats a pretty dial, anon
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*blocks your path*
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>>57844462

I'll get one when they make a solar multiband version, or at least a solar.
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>>57844475
It's SHTF, not a fucking science project.
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>>57844480

So, at least solar you reatard
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>>57844241
If aesthetics are a bigger concern than maximal toughness, the GAB2100 is nice. It's solar powered unlike the base GA2100, though that earlier model does have more colourways available.
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>>57839204 (OP)
Garmin instinct tactical

It's the new high speed casio
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>>57839589
Moonwatch isn't self winding. There is no gravity in space so its manual wind.
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>>57844744
Omega coasts on the speedmaster name pretty hard. The real moonwatch is manual winding only yes, but omega sells many variations with automatic movements
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>>57843393
I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm saying it can't be done with a suitable precision in a shtf scenerio with just a mechanical wristwatch you dummy
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>>57842828
This is what I wear to work everyday
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>>57843936
That's some cia tier shit
Do you need some sort of permit for those, like license to kill?
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Oh great, a "let's post pictures of our fat arms and hands" thread.
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>>57844590

That looks like shit though. And feels even worse. Also not multi band, just (((Bluetooth)))
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>>57845629
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>>57845718
Multi band is useless outside NA, Europe, China and Japan.
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>>57844115
I've been into titanium for about a decade now. Bottle, smaller utility cases, even fucking utensils. I like how it ages and I have yet to see something made out of titanium to look like trash when old and banged up. It is just a wonder material for me. Can't imagine gshock squares being different for some reason.
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>>57842828
>>57844462
Should I get one of these as an alternative to my B640W?
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>>57845771

Anon if you live in the third world the last thing you have to thin about is buying a GShock.

Also not true because multi band watches can be tuned with a phone app that sends a radio signal.
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>>57846176
If you want to, it's a twenty dollar watch. I hope that's not a deal breaker.
Give it a try. If you like it, wear it from then on.
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>>57845718
the fuck do you actually need bluetooth for in a watch like that? i get it for a smartwatch but what does it actually do on that?
--- 57848123
Don't care about SHTF, this is an actual picture of my everyday watch. W800H with aliexpress strap and solder mod to unlock all of the module's features (namely 5 alarms and countdown timer)
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>>57840481
What watch
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>>57848214
Zelos Hammerhead 2
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>>57839309
Pro tip: when the rubber watch band cracks and breaks from flexing back and forth too much (took me about 3 or 4 years for that), buy one of those $0.75 shipped wish.com f91w clones, throw out the watch, and just keep the band.
Sad that real ones are up to $13 on amazon, it's supposed to be the dirt cheap poo in loo watch
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>>57848123
I havent heard of that mod, do they really sell it with only half of the features available? Why????
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>>57848369
Yeah, you have to remove the solder on the jumper numbered 0 to enable countdown timer, and solder the jumper numbered 3 to enable 5 alarms.
Why do they do that? Same reason video games are sold with built in features that can only be unlocked through DLC. Same reason why Tesla sells you a car with built in features that can be unlocked if you pay more.
It's just easier to develop one module for several watches, and remove features on the cheaper ones, then you can sell watches with the full features for a premium.
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>>57848468
forgot pic
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>>57839844
Best I can find is the Rangeman basic in black for good bang for buck ABC function without GPS. Good layout for use with gloves or not. Was like $165 CDN a month and a half ago here but other places have it jacked way up like $270.
--- 57848590
Anyone know the difference between the gwm5610 and the gw5000? Might cop the former
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>>57848492
>>57848468
I don't care about watches but just wanted to throw in that that's called market segmentation
Other examples are software (Windows Home vs. Windows Professional is basically just a switch) and supermarket coupons (cutting those out is only worth it for poor people so only they get the lower prices)
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>>57840444
Respect to the F91 but fuck that. I went with the GWN5610-U as I wanted multi and and solar. Paired that with a Rangeman for my outdoor activities. I would not pay reg price for both. Got both at all time low prices when I got them. Love both but would take Rangeman if SHTF.
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>>57844039
Shockbase has to be the least user-friendly database I've ever had the misfortune of using, at least as far as searching for the criteria you've laid out goes
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>>57848651
It works fine and I am happy to see a website that is not a modern nu-web trash for once. What is however unforgivable that it is a fucking mess regarding cases. It doesn't do what anon proclaims as one of the most important things - with shitload of models it doesn't differentiate between a steel and titanium bezels. It just gives you "metal lmao".
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>>57843310
>IMCO 
based
--- 57849454
ITT clowns that think automatic watches of ANY kind make good "tool" watches.
this board is so full of fucking larpers, it's become unbearable.

>accidentally bang your OH SO RUGGED rolex (or any other automatic) against anything
>good chance rotor gets stuck
>even better chance gears skip or turn out of sync now
>at least between 6 to 12 seconds off PER DAY (on a serviced and tuned movement, out-of-the-box numbers are even worse)
>after 2 months of survival in your end of the world scenario, no two people on your team will have the same fucking time

i realize that many people here just don't want to hear it or don't deal with watches as much, but if you're really looking for /k/ watches, go for the some following:
>solar powered
>digial (because lumeshots are bullshots, do not kid yourselves and spare me the fantasy stories of how you always get up at 4am and immediately read the time with perfect readbility)
>sapphire crystal or just plain old plastic
>rubber/silicone straps, NATO straps wear out easier and the hassle of getting them smell-free every few weeks isn't worth it
>radio controlled, won't ever have to worry about setting the time unless putin nukes the continental signal emitters, at which point being off 0.5 seconds every 5 months is the least of your concerns

yes, a Rolex can look cool and the insta feeds where they put "rugged" straps on no-date subs to make em look like that watch has gone through some rough shit may look appealing to you, but please be fucking real.
if you really live such a Jason fucking Bourne life, get a GWM5610 (or literally any solar+multiband g-shock) and be done with caring about watches for the next 200 years. more time for your survival fantasy training.
otherwise, get the good old F91W. for analog, get literally ANY Citizen that says "eco drive".

if you ever get the call from the president because he's "putting together a team" and asks if you're on board for some operating, a g-shock will do the trick. don't worry.
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>>57844154
Just get the W-59-1VQES, basically a F91-W, but with water resistance. I have it and I couldn't be more happy.
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>>57839204 (OP)
I wish Casio didn't discontinue the W-86. It was perfect, and had great water resistance while also being electroluminescent.
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>>57839583
For the same reason a shotgun from Walmart and a Kreighoff exists. You work hard (or not) and you have some money and you want a mechanical time piece because...some like guns, some like cars, some like nice watches and there are many watches more expensive than a Rolex. The cost to own one does not end in the purchase. These watches also need service. The correct service is a complete disassembly, cleaning, lubrication, and replacement of wear parts. It runs all the time so that's why, and the seals need to keep the water out. A few hundred dollars per 15 years. I have one but I'm not a watch guy but sometime if I know I am going to be around people who give a shit about company bullshit and money, I wear it to see the visible irritation, they also know, knowing me, that it would never be a fake. When they ask me about it, and they ar wearing a Seiko or Breitling I say oh ..yeah it's 10:16. Most days I wear a casio dive watch been going for 30 years.
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>>57839589
You might even break the glass on it (the sapphire) and Rolex will repair that and much worse. That's what Rolex service does. Corrosion being the worst. Guys that wear a Rolex everyday just wear a watch that takes the abuse and gets fixed.
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>>57849454
They do and uh you are wrong.
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>>57840041
That nigga be fresh.
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>>57849454
Rolex watches are within 2 seconds per day cased and non thermo compensated quartz can be just the same. You can also use a sub to dive and find north and time various things. It'll last longer than a casio battery and the crystal will be tougher. There's a reason soldiers still wear subs and it's not because your opinion is the only one.
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>>57839309
>>57839204 (OP)
Yeah
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>>57840041
On his right is a gold/stainless Datejust, not with a very good glow-in-the-dark face, the one on his left does. I bet the Mrs. gave him the gold one.
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>>57849454
based and true
watchfags are insufferable
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>>57840034
Fellow Invicta enjoyer
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>>57849944
Many cope fags itt
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>>57839204 (OP)
solar seiko but i have a solar citizen chronograph too
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>>57840041
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>>57850032
Can it be charged by any light?!
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>>57849454
I love automatic watches, but you're 100% right. They're just jewelry for men nowadays and not serious tools. Just any rugged digital watch with a few years of battery will do, really.
>>57849894
>There's a reason soldiers still wear subs
To larp or as fashion. Neither real divers or soldiers wear a fucking Rolex when there are better and cheaper options for them.
--- 57850077
I've liked this Casio, but the build quality leaves much to be desired and I've needed to replace the battery after less than a year of ownership
--- 57850099
>>57850038
i think so but idk
from my experiance photovoltaics only work well in strong sunlight when the whole panel is exposed but idk how they did it in the watch

i live in a fairly dark place with not much sun and only spend a few minutes outside in the sun per day and yet my watch never got to a low battery level in my 5 years of wearing it (low battery means you still have weeks left and the second hand starts jumping 2 seconds at a time to tell you to charge it)

pic related is my citizen, it stopped by only after i left it in a drawer for like a year. started again after a shone a flashlight right at it for a few seconds
--- 57850151
Horizon Zero Dawn is a post-apocalyptic game where humanity very nearly became extinct in run-away robot/AI rebellion. All that is left from the old civilization is just some old ruins and robots still wandering in them.

Humans live in isolated tribes, and are generally fearful of any old technology. It is cursed and those who use it are shunned and made outcasts. 
In this game, you can still find relics from the ancient past, which are considered valuable and desired by the people who managed to survive the apocalypse.

Picture related is one of the ancient Relics, known as "Ancient Bright Bracelet" and if you find it, it will get you a pretty decent price in the marketplace of those human settlements and villages which are still left in the world. It is a relic from the old days, when humans still ruled the world, and a fashionable piece of jewelry.

Just saying.
--- 57850152
>>57850032
reminder that these prospex solar divers have developed a huge and subtle following amongst seiko owners

everyone should pick one up before seiko eventually double the price
--- 57850162
>>57839204 (OP)
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>>57850058
>divers or soldiers wear a fucking Rolex
Cope cause ur wrong
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>>57839589
>mineral glass
>no self winding
that will be 10k+ tip sir

the new astronaut speedmaster(the x33) is quartz and its NASA certified

but so is gshock and casio doesnt market it like omega does.
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>>57850151
By the way, the game is gorgeous.

Here is a savage tribespeople looking at some ancient ruins where it is forbidden to go. Just in case you might awaken some slumbering old machine devil.
--- 57850207
>>57850152
you mean this one?
yea its the same watch besides the 'padi' writing i considered getting it but i hated the different colored second hand
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>>57850180
they were the X-33's within the station but the mechanical speedies during extra vehicular activities. 

also self winding doesn't work so well in low gravity environments, which is why manual winding is preferred.

i don't know why you niggers are literally questioning the tests and decisions made by white male nasa engineers from the 1950's and 60's. it comes off as massive cope because it's true, omega milks the brand and moon missions but the original speedmasters with the lemania 5100 caliber are suited for outer space work.

if you think there's a quartz watch with a digital display that can handle the vacuum and temperatures of outer space, post it.
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>>57850207
They have several color combinations these days. I highly recommend picking one up because like I said, I guarantee that in the near future Seiko will realize they can double the prize as they have with some of their automatic watches with the 6R movement that now sell for bullshit prices, near $2k if not higher. 

https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/seiko/prospex+divers+solar-quartz
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>>57850220
>i don't know why you niggers are literally questioning the tests and decisions made by white male nasa engineers from the 1950's and 60's.
Anon, you're bragging about decisions and testing from a time when the choice was mechanical watch or no watch. Should we also be using vacuum tubes because that's what they chose to use in the 50s and 60s?
--- 57850260
>>57850167
Imagine thinking that real divers use automatics like we're still in the 90s instead of dive computers. Fucking larper
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>>57850220
Its cringe to brag about the speedmaster so much about its "outer space cred" because you are paying out the ass to get a gimped watch.

nobody would buy a ferrari nowdays if it had no AC

also bulova lunar pilot is also space certified and nobody gushes about it like you omega niggers
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>>57850249
the green one looks nice
i honestly cba to set the watch every day tho so it's quartz for me
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>>57850256
the conditions of space haven't changed. if it works it works. if your complaint is that that the watch is too expensive then blame Omega, but the technology is solid for what it needs to do.

p.s. you won't find an off the self watch quartz watch with a digital on the market right now that can do what the speedmaster still can in the current year. so why not accept that it's a good backup system at the very least?
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>>57850274
if you buy it head over to the WatchUSeek forum and you can find recommendations for a better bracelet. all in all it's probably one of the best value propositions in that price range.
--- 57850303
>suited for outer space work.
>literally falls apart in space
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-other-moon-watch-has-landed#:~:text=Then%20on%20August%202%2C%201971,off%20during%20an%20earlier%20moonwalk.

bulova to the rescue i guess..
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>>57850260
I dive and I wear a mechanical watch
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>>57850220
They made up their mind and twist all data to match. Basically what liberals do. It's the sign of low iq.
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>>57850292
You sound really invested in the products you consume.
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>>57840325
This is the convoluted aviator way to use the 24hr hand for navigation. Most people just need help getting a consistent bearing which is more easily accomplished syncing the 24hr hand to their time zone so they can point the 12hr hand at the sun and the 24hr hand will then point North.
--- 57850421
>>57839204 (OP)
Until I can be bothered to buy a replacement strap for my F-91W ill continue using the G-Shock
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>>57850038
AHHHHH one of only two kind of expensive watches I actually want. 
Very tasteful.
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>>57850261
i'm not trying to convince anyone to buy it, i don't even own it because the original models that were certified for these missions are either in possession of these agencies or sold for insane prices on the grey market. and i think the new 321 caliber speedmaster has a display back which is retarded, so there are no good options to purchase what they actually wear in space.

i'm simply saying that it has performed it's job in extreme conditions for decades and that to this day even the Russian cosmonauts use it for EVA's and that trying to deny that it works in outer space is pure cope.

>>57850328
all of the testing methods and results are published and reproducible by anyone who cares enough about it 

>>57850303
the crystal for one of the speedmasters that were tested on the ground also popped off. the reason was that the astronauts didn't pressurize correctly before one of the space walks and when they walked out it popped off. and i didn't talk shit about the bulova, they used to make great watches as well

 >>57850331
yeah this is the most important thread i have ever participated in, in my entire life
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>>57850303
>m-muh sneedmaster
>m-muh moon certified
>falls apart on the moon
lel
--- 57850626
>>57850439
You can buy it bro it's not that bad. I have faith in you. Just get the fully tegemented one because it really works.
--- 57850733
>>57850591
>mechanical watches are rugged bro, they used them in space!
>you just have to baby them or they will literally fall apart
lmao you picked the worst example to point to making them rugged
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>>57842828
Walter White drip
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>>57840524
pretty based, I have this watch too, it's solid as hell. last watch I'll need
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>>57850733
post a watch that has more usage in outer space than the speedmaster

if you can’t, then you’re gay
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>>57839204 (OP)
i use a gshock. just came in the mail, great so far. we'll see how it holds up to long nights in the machine shop
--- 57850922
>>57850855
Shit, maybe we should all go back to using spears too since they've been used in more wars then guns. It's not like technology has ever advanced and rendered something obsolete before.
--- 57850925
>>57850260
A lot of divers still use automatics. 
Sure, you may have a diving computer as part of your diving equipment. You you are not diving ALL THE TIME, are you?

It's like having cross-country hiking boots. Nice to have if you are heading out to wilderness, but not really something you use on your office job or on your way to a nearest supermarket. For that, you use something more sensible. Like low-cut shoes. Does not stick out of the crowd or in an office, but can handle some sticky situations.
--- 57850957
>>57850887
Granted I push a desk for a living, but I would think introducing snag hazards like a wristwatch would frowned upon. Or is that a think of the past with manual machining going by the wayside?
--- 57851002
>>57839204 (OP)
Got a Timex Ironman on sale for my beater watch and so far I'm happy with it.
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>>57839204 (OP)
Gimme something cool and cheap that goes well with a NATO strap, /k/
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>>57851132
How cheap
--- 57851173
>>57851154
150$ and under, but realistically under 100$, looking for something to use everyday and beat the crap out of and replace. Bonus points if it's big (I have huge hands)
--- 57851217
>>57851173
Vostok is usually the go to brand if you know you’re going to destroy it and don’t care about losing it.

I’m not even going to tell you where to buy them because part of the journey of owning a piece of shit like a Vostok is going down the rabbit hole and drudgery finding one you like and where to get a legitimate one for the real price.
--- 57851224
>>57851173
If you're ok with quartz
Casio Duro
Entry level Gshock 2100
--- 57851259
>cheap
For mile splits, my trusty Timex Ironman. Waiting in the wings Casio F91W-1. But normally I'm not a watch fag because time of day is instinctive to me. I also have an iPhone 13.
--- 57851262
>>57851224
Oh yeah I'm definitely ok with quartz. 
Casio Duro looks like it'd look good with a nato strap, and it's around 80$

>>57851217
Vostok is starting at like 250$ here
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>>57851259
>iPhone13
Ceiling cat is watching you masturbate.
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>>57851173
Diesel
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>>57850626
Actually I got it mixed up with the UX. Sexy oily goodness. My dad's got a sinn something or other, it's one of the high pressure ones with the neato desiccant chambers.
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>>57848279
>>57839309
The default strap is shit quality and will snap on its own much earlier than the battery dies. Get one with the metal strap
--- 57852567
>>57850004
>>A+ basic functions.
>>Fucking big led.
>>Probably the best negative siaplay on a casio.
>>Shitty acrilic display...
Almost a flawless score here.
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>>57850004
Can this take a nato strap?
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>>57851002
Based Triathlon poster. Most people just assume it's a G-shock at first glance.
--- 57854038
I keep buying cheap timex watches from walmart and when they break or the battery dies I just buy a new one. what's the step up from this that doesn't look like a brick on your arm or cost a gorillion dollars?
--- 57854217
For me it's the protrek solar
>basic compass
>alt/baro/temp
>solar
>nuke time receiver
Only complaint is the compass doesn't account for being at an angle. They should add a mercury level on the display to ensure you get a more accurate reading, or account for the angle automatically
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>>57854038
what's your budget
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>>57854038
I like this one. >>57842828
It's like 25 bucks, lasts for years, and you can replace the battery
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>>57854786
idk like $1-200
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>>57856087
Citizen Ecodrive can be had for under 200 bucks, looks nice, and is good for 10 to 20 years before you need to replace the solar panels, though if you're beating a quartz timex to death, you are still likely to do the same to any other quartz solely unless you're getting them wet.
--- 57856146
>>57850855
most astronauts wear fucking casios and other quartz watches when on station, stop believing promo bullshots.

it's the same with formula one pilots, it doesn't mean they use automatic watches for time measurement just because they get a $45000 Rolex strapped to their wrists before standing ont he podium.

how fucking dumb are you? IQs below room temperature shouldnt even own guns
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>>57856146
worst part is that they dont even use watches in EVA anymore so he can constantly claim 
>its the longest used watch in outer space!

here's a list of all watches that went to EVA
http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/001835.html

Notice how there's even a quartz watch in there.
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>>57856146
>>57856178
This whole argument is retarded as fuck. 
>but muh spacemen use X!
Like lmao, how old/childish are you? Are you a fucking spaceman?
--- 57856646
>>57849454
Based and truthpilled
t. a mechanical watch enjoyer
--- 57856666
Is this a watch rec thread?
Looking for something within these criteria
>Very legible display
>Water proof, at least up to 50m
>Rugged and reliable
>Maybe a compass 
>Within $500
I go out fishing and boating a lot and have fallen into water a few times. I'm clumsy
--- 57856729
>>57839390
Mechanical watches are retarded and you should feel bad about owning one because nearly every mechanical watch is overpriced garbage for what they are.
If it's not quartz timer or better you might as well throw it in the bin.
Just don't get cheap quartz circuits, anything above 60 moolahs in circuitry alone should give you a hyper accurate time piece that won't break or run out of battery in a couple years.
The case itself doesn't matter at all, nor do any functions outside of timers.
I have a generic chink/mexicoshit "replica" of a Rolex (made in the same factory same bracelet, they say "only in Switzerland" but it's all bullshit marketing) that I filled with a semi expensive generic quartz that has smooth motors rather than the cheap "tick" of cheap quartz, and it works unironically better than an actual Rolex kek. I also eventually replaced the cheap glass with sapphire glass and now noone would even tell the fucking difference without opening it.
Honestly for most people, long battery (4week) smart watches are fine. If you're expecting an apocalypse get some of the digital ones anons here have suggested, or fuck around finding "fakes" that are probably just as good as 15 grand retard watches made to scam idiots that care about "skilled workmanship" rather than an actual decent product.
--- 57856730
>got quad 6s
Holy kek
This seems nice but I have 0 experience with any watches.
https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/seiko/products/seiko-prospex-200m-diver-solar-gmt-sbpk001-made-in-japan
--- 57856757
>>57856730
The reviews are literally paid for, they read like a shill, "I wish I bought the more expensive one lol" be careful.
>Accuracy: ±15 seconds per month
Yeah that's normal for quartz. Should be fine.
--- 57858004
>>57856666
Casio duro as other anonymous have said is pretty phenomenal for the price. Citizen has some nice offerings as well. If you want something mechanical I would go for a hamilton manual wind field watch. Otherwise there's a ton of gshock offerings that would serve you well. It's all up to what you like based on functions and aesthetics.
--- 57858150
>>57839309
F-105W is a straight upgrade, no reason to get the 91 over it except for Taliban aesthetics
--- 57858207
This is my everyday watch. I have a couple of G-Shock's but I have genetic wristletism and I don't wear them because they look ridiculous.
--- 57858210
I bought a Casio A158W since my dog liked chewing the bands off my F-91W's. I wouldn't say it's more capable but the adjustable steel band is a big improvement over other watches I've worn before it. If I were to upgrade I'd definitely want a similar style band.
--- 57858324
>>57849454
Based.
If analogue is a requirement I'd go for ProTrek though, they are not quite as durable as G-Shocks, but they have solar, all the usual casio functions and a compass.

I fucking love mechanical watches, but anyone who pretends they are in any way superior to digital in this day and age is delusional.
--- 57858335
>>57856729
You must be fun at parties
--- 57858383
>>57858335
>Anon goes to a party
>Yeah this is actually a Zigglerwheilmer style movement
>Everyone gather 'round and remain silent so we may appreciate the unique Hubbmleplex's unique tick
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>>57858383
>everyone must share what I enjoy and only what I enjoy
You've never been to a party
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>>57858391
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>>57849454
>citizen eco-drive

they suck ass after a few years. I've sent my blue angel twice for repairs also gifted a few from a stranger (always keep them in light).
--- 57858534
bought a g-shock GW6900-1 what amIn4?

also, I have a f-105 and how to u get the spring pins out? I tried the floss method but there was nothing to grab. took some pliers and pulled them out to replace with 20mm nato strap that came with pins. the pins are too short and can't use the original pins since they're bent.
--- 57858579
>>57854217
Based. I had a protrek for years.

These days I wear one of those. They are relatively new and casios attempt to break into the smart watch market while still retaining the qulities that made G-shock popular.
It's sturdy, basic watch mode will run forever, but it also has gps, heart rate, and all that stuff.
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A dw-9052 that's bigger than my wrist.
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>>57839204 (OP)
Mine
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Inexpensive and functional, keeps time good enough, I like it.
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Team G it is
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>>57839204 (OP)
Watch?
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>>57843310
>>57848782
Based IMCO enjoyers. Got to use mine on my recent trip to Vegas and it lit those cigs like a pro.
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>>57858988
what is it?
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>>57859538
I don't know the model, but that dude has an Islander, house brand of long island watch. Most movements are seiko based, but there are a few ameriquaterz.
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>>57859538
Islander ISL-49 with a coin edge bezel and ceramic bezel insert.

>>57859567
You got it.
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>>57858988
>islander 
I've never seen one out and about.
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>>57859599
>>57859623
thanks, it looks nice and the price is alright, I'd pick one up to check it out but I already have a seiko samurai to fill my diver's watch needs
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Anyone know a watch that might be useful for pilots? Baro, altimeter, etc maybe built into the watch face/main interface screen?
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>>57859713
Either a garmin or apple smartwatch
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>>57859713
>Baro, altimeter
Shouldn't your plane instruments tell you that?
Anyways Protrek, a few G-shocks or most Garmins have that.
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>>57859752
>Shouldn't your plane instruments tell you that?
Plane won't until you set your baro before startup, and having a watch tell your your baro is useful because it saves time having to check the METAR or listen to the radio for it.
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>>57859713
>Baro, altimeter, etc
Those are all screaming into your face from your gages if you are flying a plane. I used the altimeter feature on a Casio watch a lot when I was hiking. If I calibrated it within a week it would be more accurate than GPS most of the time.
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>>57859690
The way I see it, at least it has sapphire instead of hardlex, I think it's a better deal than the new 38mm series Seiko released a few days ago and certainly cheaper than trying to get a real SKX013.
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>>57859771
>Those are all screaming into your face from your gages if you are flying a plane.
Anon, pilots are autistic about backups to backups to backups. Steam gauge altimeters can also fail, pitot tubes can get clogged, etc.
But really the main use is on the ground, before flying. Don't know your field elevation? Check the altimeter on the watch. Don't want to tune the radio to the nearest ATIS for a baro reading? Its on your watch.
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>>57859409
>Just stare at the sun bro! Those flashing blotches will go away... Eventually.
>Clouds? What are those?
>Dense tree canopy where the sun literally is not visible at all? Just free climb to the top of the biggest tree and stare at the sun bro!
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>>57859769
Thats what atis is for, or set your altimeter to field elevation
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>>57859690
They also got other styles. They just released a new line that uses the Seiko mecha quartz movement, which you only find in Seiko's Asian sub brands and alibaba brands. 
I like the idea of a decent and affordable mecha quartz, just not a chronograph, which is all the have right now.
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>water resist
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>>57860381
>he can't tell time purely by listening to his internal circadian rhythm
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>>57850004
i have all 3. Khaki is my main driver. Had high hopes for the negative display, but it is not useable, can't read unless you line it up it just right.
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>>57848123
Nice to see a fellow W800(HM) enjoyer, though mine hasn't been soldered (I'm content with the stopwatch and don't use the alarm) and I replaced the broken band with another band from a broken Casio watch.
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>>57859850
>Anon, pilots are autistic about backups to backups to backups
No they aren't. 
>Don't know your field elevation? Check the altimeter on the watch. Don't want to tune the radio to the nearest ATIS for a baro reading?
Holyshit it's a no-fly. Don't take this retards advice, the station at your airport will give you good numbers and your checklist will last multiple readings anyway so there is no reason to disregard it and use an uncertified, unmaintained, unreliable source for your fucking navigational and altimeter settings. 
Jesus christ, don't talk about shit you obviously know nothing about.
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>>57860689
they have some really nice looking ones, but the ones I'm interested in are sold out unfortunately
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Watchanons, why are multi-wave preferred over GPS?

am I missing something if I went with GPS?

>t. radio-less ausfag
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The only correct answer to this thread is all of them.
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>>57867374
I wonder what the Ukraine war is going to do to the quirky hipster reputation of Amphibia? 
>NOOO YOU CAN'T WEAR THAT, YOU'RE SUPPORTING LE HECKIN WARCRIMERINOS
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>>57839204 (OP)
A solar-powered watch would make sense. Automatic watches are nice, but they often aren't accurate, and need resetting every week or so, unless it's a premium watch, and they require servicing.
--- 57868081
SEIKO COMING THROUGH

>fuck rolex
>fuck iwc
>fuck sinn
>fuck all the french shit
>fuck laco
>FUCK omega
>fuck all those wannabe trendy epic outdoorsman craft beer mini brands who just put uncalibrated seiko NH35/35As into basic SKX replica cases and put their le epic logo onto basic dials

CITIZEN
CASIO
SEIKO

WE RIDE TOGETHER, WE DIE TOGETHER
i will take no comments
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I think I'm just gonna buy a Mudmaster.
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>>57867704
Obsessed
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>>57839497
you never know when you'll need to barter for a rat burger
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>>57867704
If that was the case, I would be wearing my two amphibias and VDV komandirskie in rotation everyday to show how much I don't give a shit about muh Ukraine.
Unfortunately, 99% of people don't give a fuck about watches and won't even bother looking at what I am wearing, and the remaining 1% has never heard of Vostok.
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>>57869264
>VDV komandirskie

that a diver's watch?
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>>57869422
No it's an officer's watch.
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>>57867175
GPS is fine, it’s just more expensive than radio controlled watches.
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>>57864960
Anon you wouldn't be flying under night vision illegally would you?
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>>57870078
>illegally
Why would you assume that?
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>>57869510
Does the VEH DEH VEH actually wear these or is it just a meme / marketing watch

>>57869858
Thanks, do you know if GPS watches can be updated if/when timezone rules changed? Or are these eventually obsolete? I'm semi-tempted to get a seiko astron or similar for my next watch
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>>57842828
That one has shitty buttons. Get the better one for 10$ more.
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>>57868081
pretty based
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>>57870099
I havent read the far pt 91 in a long time, I thought general aviation wasn't allowed to officially use night vision for flying
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>>57870112
actually holy shit nevermind that I am not expecting them to be as expensive as they are

>>57868081
seikoanon, got any recs of solar seikos suitable with nato strap?
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>>57839204 (OP)
>cheap Casio
Actually not many features, only 3 buttons for most, resin rot is real, strap will fail.
>average Casio
More features and buttons, better straps.
>Gshock
Resin rot, strap will fail.

Yeah, get some $40-60 Casio.
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>>57870508
>solar seikos suitable with nato strap?

http://www.watchsleuth.com/seikodiverfinder/search/?MV%5B%5D=V145&MV%5B%5D=V157&MV%5B%5D=V158&MV%5B%5D=V172&MV%5B%5D=V175
http://www.watchsleuth.com/seikochronofinder/search/?MVTYPE%5B%5D=Solar

Pic related, depending on your wrist size the recent seiko night vision series might be appealing to you. The watch on the right is solar, as well as the chrono posted above.

Otherwise, a chinese re-brander "Tactical Frog" has started to buy seiko VS75 movements and put them into chronos.
In general, any Seiko that isn't an explicit dress watch is suitable for a nato strap, BUT
If you've got some money to spend, google for Seiko PROSPEX solars and you'll find the premium shit. They also have some more obscure solar field watches, and while the lume on them is pretty great, it isn't applied everywhere it should be.


Nato straps basically "have become solved" and pointless with the recent rise of (curved-end) silikone straps.
be it literally any aliexpress curved or a $60 (but literally indestructable) Crafterblue, they do what NATO straps did, only better:
- close the optical gap between lugs, watch and strap
- quiet
- easily adjustable without tools, unlike metal bracelets
- good water resistance
- ++feature that natos don't have: they do not absorb smell

If you've ever worn a nato strap for 3 months constantly during sommer, sport, sleeping, showering etc, it smells like a fucking dogs ass with diarrhea.
The last time I took my watch off was like 14 months ago when I had to go into a CRT machine, so I really wear them 24/7. Silicone straps do not absorb smell and I'm never going back to nato.
That being said, if you want to stick to your Nato straps: throw them into boiling water every 3 months and have em dry, then put em back on. Don't listen to idiots who tell you to just rub some soap into the strap everytime you take a shower, that's not gonna do shit in the long term. Boil it or replace it.
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>>57870917
>seiko in the year 20 x (20 + 20 + 20 + 20 + 20) + 20 + 3
Overpriced trash.

>If you've ever worn a nato strap for 3 months constantly during sommer, sport, sleeping, showering etc, it smells like a fucking dogs ass with diarrhea.
FUCKING WASH IT WITH SOAP.
>Don't listen to idiots who tell you to just rub some soap into the strap everytime you take a shower, that's not gonna do shit in the long term. 
IT FUCKING DOES.
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>>57870917
on a sidenote, pic related is what I'm wearing now minus the leather strap because my 22mm curved end silicone is underway already.

Citizen AS-4035, kinda expensive for a "tool watch", but then I bought unused it for 1/4th of its price because the woman who sold it to me explained that her husband didn't like it. he only likes watches where the second hand flows and so she put it back into the box and let it sit in the drawer. mint condition, fucking lemayo. But hey, I won't complain. as a general tip, always try to get em used first if they're not automatic. most of the time, people have no idea what the fuck they're selling.

TL;DR, if you're looking for "military field watch" types, citizen has some great chronographs that only start getting into expensive territory if you want radio controlled movements for automatic time adjustment. you're never gonna need that unless you're literally the protagonist from far cry 2 and event then...
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>>57870917
>Seiko Prospex
I bought an automatic for 700 and was pretty disappointed. Loses time faster than my nu-hamilton and tissot. 
Silicon straps are fine I guess, but they make your watch look like a child’s toy watch. 
Bracelet, NATO, or bust.
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>>57870952
>FUCKING WASH IT WITH SOAP.

i don't know how sensitive your nose is, but I promise you that showering with a nato strap, no matter how much soap you dump onto that motherfucker, is NOT going to get rid off the smell.
it just does not. we can go yesnoyesnoyesnoyesno for the next 2 hours, but I stand by my point.
I've worn watches long enough, I've been fumbling and fucking around with them for 2 decades and have tried every type of watch strap there is. natos are fine and somewhat durable, but they do absorb sweat and the fabric does start to smell bad. getting rid of that smell isn't dont with a spritz of soap.

>>57871051
>automatic

you've given yourself the answer: automatic movement.
prospex auto's are still automatics and I wouldn't trust the most expensive automatic to keep the timer better than an old f91w. it's just not technically possible.
i don't get why people still fall for the automatic watch meme, the 80s are over.

>Silicon straps are fine I guess, but they make your watch look like a child’s toy watch. 
depends on the combination of watch and strap, but I rarely see people using anything but black silicone straps. pic related
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>>57871120
>i don't get why people still fall for the automatic watch meme, the 80s are over.
Because watches are jewelry and status items, Anon. That is why the most valuable and coveted watch brands are automatics. 
Your phone is more useful in every way for telling time accurately and only a handful of niche uses (diving, gps, etc.) warrant the use of a watch to begin with. 

Otherwise it’s just grey man LARP.
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>>57871120
>showering with a nato strap
Not showering, washing it: take it off, wash it with warm water and soap, like you'd wash any other piece of nylon, wheather a coat, a chest rig, or a belt, because I sure hope you watch your gear anon. I do it like once a month while washing my hands, I wash the band along with any dust or grime that accumulated on the watch, takes a minute, and then it's perfectly fine.

It's fucking nylon, it's easy enough to wash, unless we're talking low quality NATOs with cotton fibers, or all the perlon shit that are made of whatever chinks have available.
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>>57871175
I'd argue that turning my wrist and looking at pic related is even more practical than fumbling a hopefully charged phone out of a pocket, turning it on an looking at it. especially when you're at the beach or something.

but I see your point and I agree with it: watches are jewelry for man.
not so much status items though, because literally nobody will ever stop you and go "omg anon is that a rolex on your wrist?".

you buy a watch because YOU like it and think it looks good, but you're almost never going to impress anybody with your watch. maybe a tinder date and when she shows an unusual interest in your rolex, then you gotta bail anyway.
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>>57871120
>showering
have you heard of the concept of washing your clothes/washing machines, you fucking ape?
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>>57870276
Well, it's nobodies business.
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>>57871120
>>57870917
>Nato straps basically "have become solved"
>I wouldn't trust the most expensive automatic to keep the timer better than an old f91w. it's just not technically possible

How can you sound so confident about everything you’re saying yet be so retardedly wrong?
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>>57871660
>I wouldn't trust the most expensive automatic to keep the timer better than an old f91w. it's just not technically possible

Everything he said there was actually correct
stop buying 5$ fakes on ebay
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>>57868081
Fuck you IWC makes god tier watchers.
You're right about everything else.
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>>57871660
He's right though and you are wrong and gay.

>>57868110
Those are fucking huge aren't they. Not hating, but you need a beefy wrist to rock one of those.
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>>57868081
Seiko was the best bang for the buck brand up until a few years ago. Nowadays, the prices are pretty much on the same level as Swiss watches. They make mostly big, thick, tacky watches with subpar movements and cheap bracelets.
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>>57864960
This dumb nigger actually thinks all fields have baros lmao. Fuck you idiot.
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>>57868081
>>57870917
>>57871004
>>57871120
>citizen
>seiko
What’s next, Fossil?
This is the advice you follow if you dress like a 14 year old who just wants a giant tacky glowing watch with a bunch of useless and crowded complications on his wrist, likely with a bezel thats 44mm or bigger. 

Watch equivalent of 5.11 and merrell.
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>>57872607
Anon if a small strip doesn't have any info typically pilots set to field elevation or get weather from a nearby field. If you're doing bushplane shenanigans that's different but even still any responsible pilot is not going to use a watch to pull altitude information
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>>57872694
It's a dude illegally flying with nvgs so I quite frankly don't give a shit what he thinks.
Modern digital baros fit in a chip the size of a grain of a grain of rice and are incredibly accurate so even if you are doing backwood STOL shit off of mesas of unknown elevation or something they're going to be plenty reliable.
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>>57871963
>>57872562
>Everything he said there was actually correct

here’s how the next set of replies will go:
1) I will point you to the Rolex specifications which show it’s more accurate than an F-91W per month
2) You will then move the goal posts claiming that it doesn’t actually matter that it’s more accurate because it’s thousands of times cheaper than a Rolex so it’s better value
3) I will then point out that you were factually wrong and a cock sucking faggot
4) You will then say accuracy doesn’t matter since we all have smartphones
5) I’ll then point out that if you can use your phone, then why do you have an F-91
6) go kill yourseld
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>>57872994
Anon they're just coping, let them. The reality is as long as a watch is able to be hacked and standardized between a fire team and can reasonably hold that time for a single day it will be usable in shtf
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>>57872741
The original claim was that you can use your watch as a substitute for a field altimeter to save time as stated >>57859769 so admitting that it's only useful for remote stol stuff is a huge step. Glad we could clear that up, retard