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| Do nods have output delay? | |
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| >>57862935 (OP) | |
| No they see into the future l | |
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| >>57862935 (OP) | |
| A little, this belongs in qtddtot | |
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| NODs are the most overrated pos gear i've ever seen peddled | |
| Like that 10k loan could've been spent on a few generators and work utility lights to secure your compound against nod wearing raiders | |
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| >>57862961 | |
| Until one of those NOD wearing raiders just shoots the generator from far away, with a gun. Or shoots the lights. Or any of a dozen other things. | |
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| >>57862961 | |
| >10k loan | |
| Taking out loans at all. | |
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| >>57862961 | |
| You gonna carry those lights with you when you go out at night? | |
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| >>57862935 (OP) | |
| No, it's an analog device. It's converting photons into electrons into photons at the speed of light. | |
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| >>57862935 (OP) | |
| Technically yes but practically no, unless you're asking about digital devices in which case absolutely | |
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| >>57862935 (OP) | |
| No, analog systems allow for instant output to the user. It's one reason why good digital is so hard, it can't do that. | |
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| >>57862961 | |
| This. No one knows true power untill they harness the light! | |
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| >>57862935 (OP) | |
| Yes, it takes an insignificant but theoretically measurable amount of time for the photons to travel from the front of the tube to the back. | |
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| >>57862961 | |
| it is incredibly easy to shoot out lights. you can do it from relative safety too. | |
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| >>57866428 | |
| By how many times slower than without a tube in the way | |
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| >>57862935 (OP) | |
| they have zero delay in terms of real perception, digital has pretty significant delay | |
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| >>57866482 | |
| About the same delay as you get from the light passing through the lenses of a magnified optic. | |
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| >>57866482 | |
| The atmosphere slows down light from the sun significantly more than light passing through a tube will | |
| No human will ever be able to perceive the change, although it's theoretically measurable, there's no reason to do so because you can do nothing about it nor will it ever affect you | |
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| >>57862935 (OP) | |
| For any practical intent, No. Some say they're analog, which is kinda true, it's more like they're just pure curcuitry with no computerization at the fundamental functional level. | |
| They function at 2/3 the speed of light and 2/3 of 3million times faster than you can process with your eyes is still 2 million times faster. | |
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| >>57862949 | |
| no one replies to shit on qddot nigger | |
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| >>57863615 | |
| > using your own money | |
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| >>57862961 | |
| For most people thermals are more valuable than nods. In an shtf scenario you're either going to be sleeping or standing guard while other people sleep, and if you're defending a static position then a guy with thermals will spot a guy with nods long before a guy with nods spots a guy with thermals. | |
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| >>57871895 | |
| Thermals are great, BV is great, and they have different use cases. Only folk that own only own (and are emotionally attached to their choice) shill just the one. However. | |
| You can't navigate and move in thermals. This is why folks are advised to get NV first, and thermals second. If you're holding a fixed position and everyone is an enemy then sure, you'll want thermals. Buy if you're going to be moving at all, ever, or want to identify what you're shooting at because not everyone is a threat, thermals won't help. Unlike NV which has very low electrical draw, Thermals absolutely chug batteries and since thermals HAVE to be attached and zero'd to the rifle that means any moment you're running that rifle you are just pissing electricity into the ether so you better have some sort of stable independent logistics set up to support their use. | |
| Now, can YOU find a way to run ONLY thermals in your UNIQUE use case? Maybe. But should you recommend it over NV in general for 99% of everyone else stumbling into this sort of discussion? Hell na. | |
| Get NV. Train on NV. Then get a thermal scope and mount it to a rifle designed for it's use and obtain proper godhood like a normal person. | |
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| >>57872166 | |
| I agree that you can't navigate with thermals and ideally you should have both, but most people don't need to navigate at night so if they have to prioritize it's better to pick thermal. | |
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| >>57862935 (OP) | |
| Total input-output delay of any modern tube (gen 2 or gen 3) is under 3 milliseconds. | |
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| >>57872191 | |
| The scenarios that either require or heavily favor moving after dark are numerous in the particular environments in which thermal/nv debates become germane. Most people live in cities (large or small). Moving in the day is perfectly fine right up until the moment it absolutely isn't. | |
| And if your plan revolves around hunkering in place for the entirety of whatever may come you're risking having a really bad time because hunkering is not the right choice 100% of the time in all but a minority of conceivable cases. Again, while YOU might be in a position to get away with only running thermals, because of YOUR unique situation, for everyone else NVs are the more important first purchase. | |