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Color will return to movies.
I just know they will.
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>>183084183 (OP)
At some point in the late '00s, this muted color tone trend became the norm.
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Has there ever been a medieval movie that’s gone all-in on being colorful?
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>>183084183 (OP)
making a movie with the colors from the left would make it look like a renaissance faire fanmade film
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>>183084183 (OP)
>historically accurate knights
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>>183084183 (OP)
Obviously, sometimes things are visually different in films than in reality. On the other hand I bet the people in the middle ages also liked their media to be colourful and stimulating, so they would have had reason to draw it that way.
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>>183084256
early hollywood yeah.
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>>183084183 (OP)
I refuse to watch any medieval kino where the actors aren't wearing eight inch long cod pieces.
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>>183084272
It's not just about colors.
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>>183084226
What's the reason for this?
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>>183084482
Because they want the past to seem like a hellscape. They do the same thing with 1950’s America by trying to make it look like the idealistic society was bad, actually.
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>>183084183 (OP)
modern hollywood has lots of coloreds in medieval film though
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>>183084256
A Knight's Tale is pretty vibrant
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>>183084256
Most movies from the 60s and 70s yeah, like the old Robin Hood ones.
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>>183084305
Yeah there are a lot of problems with modern historical entertainment but if we have so many accuracy errors with all of our modern academic understanding of history, archeology etc., why assume that medieval art is any more accurate?
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>>183084256
Yes, and everyone hated it. They stick with the grey filter for a reason.
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>>183084288
>Everything has to be grim dark professor of history Shlomo Rosenblatt says Europeans lived in muddy depressing shitholes
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>>183084472
Is that ai?
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>>183084607
>orange and teal
Whoa so many colors.
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>>183084272
So be it, it's about realism and historical accuracy.
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>>183084305
Whoa there cowboy
You’re not allowed to think here
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>>183084607
looks fucking cheap and goofy
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>>183084607
This is not a colouful palette this dark and gloomy as fuck
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>>183084655
a lot of the shots were vibrant >>183084642
and it just looks wrong, like a cheap Renaissance fair
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>>183084607
>Green Knight
>There's a greenish blue-ish filter throughout the movie
BRAVO
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>>183084607
>sirs please redeem our movie
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>>183084591
Cause medieval art portrayed the present for those people, they had no reference other than what they saw irl. Modern historical art attempts to portray eras sometimes from thousands of years ago, reconstructed through history and archaeology. Way more effort required and room for error.
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>>183084256
Lots
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>>183084256
A Knight's Tale has plenty of color without looking like a cartoon. These jews simply don't want medieval movies to be colorful because they want you to believe those were dark and miserable times, but only in Europe.
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>>183084621
Just your average medieval festival in Poland. There are also Warhammer fantasy larpers who dedicate time on their outfits.
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>>183084709
>they were portraying their present you see
>so there could not possibly have been any embellishment at all
We’re being a big brain board today I see
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>>183084607
>dude, the color wheel!
The shots are still extremely monochromatic, very boring movie to look at
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Ancient Rome has the exact opposite problem when they depict it on film, but nobody ever complains about that. We know for a fact by sampling the residue on the sides of buildings and statues and chemically analyzing it ancient Rome was an extremely colorful place with brightly colored painted objects everywhere, but people aren't used to seeing it that way because since being left to decay for so many centuries we've just gotten so used to seeing everything as being made of stark white marble, and people generally find it unpleasant and jarring to see it depicted as it actually would have looked in bright eye catching color
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>>183085115
Ancient societies literally performed acts of genocide over shit like spices and dyes so it’s not surprising
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>>183085115
The Rome show did a fine job of a colorful depiction.
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>>183085115
Damn, now i want to see a historically accurate portrayal of Rome. Could only imagine how vibrant and colorful their cities actually were.
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>>183084183 (OP)
Where would they have gotten such colorful dyes from tho?
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>>183084256
The Mill and the Cross is one of the best looking movies I've ever seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIJZgJuqoUI [Embed]
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>>183085290
Good point. There's way too much blue in that picture to be a realistic portrayal of medieval knights.
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>>183085290
nature
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>>183085290
Truly an unsolvable mystery. If only they had written down how they harvested and made their dyes.
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>>183085539
Where is the bright blue from?
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>>183085635
Woad flowers.
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>>183084183 (OP)
Filmmakers have to make the medieval times look boring and somber so that the soiboys of today will prefer living in today's world as opposed to a more natural and healthy one. Another form of propaganda.
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>Further, a lot of what people think of as Medieval fashion is actually more like Renaissance era. This is partially because the real advent of painting and art was in the Renaissance & the clothing depicted showing "Medieval times" was often based on the fabrics and colors available during the time of the Renaissance. 1400-1500 was a real jump forward in fashion.
Dammit /tv/, don't send me down another rabbit hole of useless information.
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>>183085805
Okay that looks pretty blue. I thought it would turn out way more muted.
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>>183084618
How long would an incel last in a medieval society? What skills do you have?
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yeah cause some gay artist/scribe definitely showed things the way they really were
they also filled medieval manuscripts with freakish little creatures with human faces and babies were portrayed as tiny adults with no regard to proportion
so i think i'll take the whole "medieval europe was a fruity colourfest" thing with a pinch of salt
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>>183085938
I'd say they'd thrive
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>>183085889
There was a trick with the dye from Woad to also "ferment" it with some metal to create even clearer blue, but this wasn't as widely known method.
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>>183085154
heh, yeah, fucking dumbass savages didn't know that oil is the only thing worth genociding for.
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>>183084482
Its a smoking gun issue. You see guns only produce smoke under certaim cirscunstances, but the audience always conmect a smoking gun to one that was shot, even if thats normal nor how guns opperate.
Same thing happens with medieval and fantasy worlds, people need to see a poor tavern made of wood, without knowimg it was probably adornated with its walls painted and with plants inside to keep it living.
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>>183086002
Greece wasn’t medieval dumbass
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>>183084607
having 1 color per scene is the opposite of colorful
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>>183085805
>>183085889
The blue from woad flowers were supposedly rare and expensive and was therefore a royal and aristocratic color. Dunno why it was so rare considering it's a plant, lol.
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>>183085246
HBO's Rome is as close as we gonna get for the foreseeable future (probably)
You can still visit the remainings of the set (pic rel) in Rome.
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>>183084183 (OP)
medieval paintings depicting colored knights
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>>183086101
It is now, so yeah? We can get spices and colorful things without violence if we want so we don’t need to kill for them, just like I don’t need to shit in an outhouse like a fucking savage. You can’t stop progress.
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>>183086199
True, it was probably worse
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>>183085938
>How long would an incel last in a medieval society?
Medieval villagers would likely be confused by the incel's self-identification as they would not be able to comprehend why someone would be unable to find a sexual partner. They would also be baffled by the incel's anger and resentment towards women, as in medieval times, women were not seen as sexual objects, but rather as companions and mothers.
If the medieval villagers were to encounter an incel in the wild, they would probably try to offer him some food or ale in hopes that he would be pacified. However, if the incel were to start spouting off his misogynistic rhetoric, the villagers would likely be quite alarmed and would quickly move to remove him from their vicinity, if necessary with lethal violence.
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hollylwood is obsessed with making the past, as recently as the 1950s, or as far back as the middle ages, seem like some sort of grim bleak hellscape. I don't know why but it is obviously even part of the average person's idea (here in america) of the real past. They think the 1950s was just a bunch of people who were alcoholics beating their wives and kids and lynching black people ever weekend, and that the people from europe in the middle ages were all murderous psychopaths who would wear dark, dirty clothes and go cut people up with axes and eat dirty pig scraps. Obviously movies don't have to be real but it would be nice if they could make some movies that aren't just a sadfest of dark colors and sad ominous music and tired looking guys dressed in gray brown clothes
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>>183086491
>women were not seen as sexual objects
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>>183084607
>every scene is just one color filter
Looks like dogshit.
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>>183084526
The middle ages were a hellscape. People rarely bathed because northern and mid-European river water is too damn cold, they shit in bowls and emptied them out of the windows into the streets, and they drank lots of grog and alcohol because it was the only thing safe enough to drink. Life expectancy was short, partially due to poor sanitation making people more prone to illness.
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>>183084526
The 1950s movies always depict the fathers of the family as being abusive drunken pieces of shit, as if every single family was like in the 50s.
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>>183084799
Hear hear.
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>>183086544
>old bad
>new good
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>>183086254
The real expensive ones were blue and purple extracted from sea snails. You has to Holocaust ten thousand of them to get a gram of dye and is why those colours are associated with royal and holy garments.
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>>183086350
that's Saint Maurice you tard
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>>183086713
>The middle ages were a hellscape. People rarely bathed because northern and mid-European river water is too damn cold, they shit in bowls and emptied them out of the windows into the streets, and they drank lots of grog and alcohol because it was the only thing safe enough to drink. Life expectancy was short, partially due to poor sanitation making people more prone to illness.
This is completely incorrect bullshit.
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>>183084183 (OP)
Chuds will cry either way. If you make it colorful, they scream that the clothes look new and "cheap" and that it doesn't look "lived in".
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>>183086354
>We can get spices and colorful things without violence if we want so we don’t need to kill for them
Oh we still kill alright. A nice slow death due to economic factors pushing people into slavery so we can buy cheap shit at walmart while we collectively get fat and not care. It's great.
Don't worry all you Changs out there, we will make sure that the suicide nets are installed and properly working. You're not getting out of work that easily.
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>>183086916
No its not. Bathing was literally banned for a while in the middle ages because the church thought that it was immoral.
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>>183084607
>muh filters
Fuck off rertard.
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>>183085115
painted classical architecture looks incredibly kino, but i like the statues better plain white.
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>>183084183 (OP)
Mindbreak is my favorite fetish.
Medieval mindbreak is on a whole other level
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>>183084723
I was worried this would be another one of those fake AI movies when I saw the lightsaber, but I'm glad it's real and will definitely check it out.
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>>183084723
MORE LIKE THIS. GIVE ME MORE
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>>183086350
>buy painting
>commies darken it
>"SEE ACTUALLY THEY WERE ALWAYS BLACK"
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>>183084183 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cysxO5Z-0L8 [Embed]
If you've ever wanted to see a young Angela Lansberry.
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>>183087029
Bath houses were considered immoral that time. Thanks to all the SEXOOO happening in them and then the plague marked them as areas of catching the disease.
People still bathed themselves to clean the body.
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