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Will the Frogs ever release season 4? It's been 2 whole years since the kickstarter ended... What are Ankama doing?
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>>136649624 (OP)
It isnt already?
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>>136650975
no
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>Giving Tot money
what did you expect to happen?
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Is Wakfu actually worth watching for a good story or is it only worth watching for the female character designs? I need to know because I hearing it in french is really off putting and I need to know if it's worth it for the story or if I can just watch it on mute.
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>>136652421
it's meant to be watched in French.
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>>136649624 (OP)
Tot said its coming out by the end of this year
After lance dur I honestly don't know if I care anymore
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>>136652960
Did anybody really ask for Lance Dur?
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>>136652421
season 1 is worth watching for Nox only
afterward you can just mute it
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>>136649624 (OP)
They said 2024 during the kickstarter and things look like they're progressing well.
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>>136649624 (OP)
>2 whole years
Yeah guess how long it takes to make an animated series
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>>136653128
>>136652960
But Tot needed an extnded trailer for his super cool new boss (buy the collector's figurine!)
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>>136649624 (OP)
>What are Ankama doing?
Furiously masturbating to their storyboards.
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>>136652960
geez, I couldn't recognize some of those.

big momma Evangelyne would be pretty nice though, assuming this is a timeskip and they are now middle aged. It would also allow us to get Pinpin to build some bulk and finally look like this.
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>>136652960
What an awful look for Eva and Amalia
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>>136652960
>After lance dur I honestly don't know if I care anymore
Is it that bad?
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>>136649624 (OP)
I'll never understand why Yugo ended up with Amalia as his love interest.
Same for how French animation handle it's advertising and release dates.
>>136652960
I didn't watch Lance Dur, it looked like a fucking discount version of that one Discworld book with the old barbarians.
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>>136657311
>Same for how French animation handle it's advertising and release dates.
Can't take Ankama as a basis for "french animation" since they handle their advertising and production completely differently from everyone else.

For release dates in general full production of a standard series takes 2-3 years if it goes smoothly once it's picked up, and /co/ usually learns of them before that, at the pitch stage, when they're being shopped to producers and TV networks at mipcom or what have you, or even an artist's blog or kickstarter for the poverty options (of which Wakfu S4 is one). But that's completely separate from the actual advertising to kids, which only happens within 6-8 months of airing, if that much.
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>>136658684
I'm surprised Wakfu even got this far when they were seemingly doing everything to make it fail. It was always aired during times where the kids couldn't watch it. Either during school hours or in the morning the week end (AKA the time no kids is ever gonna be awake)
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>>136657002
Peepoodo levels of budget but not the madcap attitude or inventive storyboarding. They want it to be serious and tragic and also they have no budget to make things move around, so lots and lots of still shots. You know it's serious and adults because a couple fucks at one point.

But also it' there to hype a superboss from the game only it's kinda too late for that and it actually gives it zero backstory, just "omg he's so tough and cool". Technically also the forgelance class but it spends about zero time on that. MC could have been of any other class and it'd have worked the same.

It's got a couple interesting ideas about getting old, except as mentione by that other guy Discworld did it better and funnier decades ago. Here the best you get is at one point you'll go "oh the inescapable monster is a metaphor for o-" and be cut off mid-thought by the narrating character suddenly going "THE INESCAPABLE MONSTER IS A METAPHOR FOR OLD AGE", to make sure you get it.
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>>136658840
You know what blew my mind? How little the game resembled the show. I think they only just recently retooled the major cities to look like the ones in the cartoons. Prior to that, you'd go to Brakmar and it was just a little fort on a volcanic island.

The Wakfu show also didn't seem to acknowledge Ogrest until the OVA, but in the game he's the final boss and supposedly a threat to the world. Then the OVA made it especially weird when Iop and Hugo defeat Ogrest, making the player's quest canonically doomed to fail.
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>>136661808
>but in the game he's the final boss and supposedly a threat to the world.
I think that was for Dofus, in Wakfu, Ogrest already destroyed the world once, which is how you went from the Dofus world to the Wakfu world, which is basically pre-flood and post-flood.
Also even in season 1, it was implied Nox's family died in the flood Ogrest started.
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>>136660379
Talking about the games, I'll never stay saying Wakfu and Dofus would be a thousand times better if they weren't MMOs.
Who the fuck saw a fun, witty tactical RPG and went 'You know what this need? Forcing you to play with other people and buying companions you can't interact with one by one. Oh and paywall the story content'.
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>>136662629
I'll never stop*
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>>136662497
Ogrest isn't really mentioned, though. In the OVA he's flat out drowning the whole of the Sadida kingdom, but prior to that nobody mentions him.

Also, funny thing, but Puddlings, those little guys they had to teach to fight, are some kind of level 100 badass or something in the game. They used to be in Amakna but they moved them to Suffokia for some reason.
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>>136662659
>but Puddlings, those little guys they had to teach to fight, are some kind of level 100 badass or something in the game.
Basically any time you had the camera stay on a character or creatures for more than 5 minutes, it was basically the show screaming at you 'Hey, look, it's that stupidly high level thing / dude from the game! The one only no-life guilds whales will ever see!'
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>>136662659
From his mentions in the show I had thought he was some ancient evil that had been stopped long ago but then the OVA comes around and says no he's still up to his bullshit and it felt strange that no one seemed to care up until that point. You'd think stopping the world ending god monster would have been on one of the hero characters minds during those first two seasons but he is treated as a normal thing people have accepted.
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>>136662724
Occasionally seeing characters from the show in the game did get a little eye-rolly. It was clear they had a monster or person they wanted to show off so into the show he went.

The Black Crow was another good example. He's a max level dungeon boss, meaning you need a whole party of players to fight him, but somewhere in the mid levels he does a smaller dungeon where you have to play as him. Playing as him was awkward, though, because you're using him to fight another OP boss, and your only options are "big attack" or "other big attack", so positioning and tactics don't matter and it feels like RNG. Also they had so much health I began to worry I was doing something wrong, or that the game had glitched and the enemy become hnkillable somehow. I cannot fathom why they thought a fight like that had to be dragged out so long.

Funny that once she got put in motion on screen, Miranda stole the spotlight completely.

>>136662629
Games as a service was seen as the real cash cow at the time. Players grind away and keep paying you forever. Until they get bored, of course, which the MMO grind eventually causes. The big problem with it outside of finances is that the MMO purposefully makes you feel like you never reached a satisfying conclusion.
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>>136662951
>Games as a service was seen as the real cash cow at the time. Players grind away and keep paying you forever. Until they get bored, of course, which the MMO grind eventually causes.
I mean, sure but combining game as a service, MMO and grid-based tactics? The fuck were they thinking? It's even worse since even the starting dungeon are basically undoable solo without being super overleved.
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Obligatory reminder to watch Dofus: Aux trésors de Kerubim.
I seriously wish they just animated Wakfu in that style entirely, liked the characters more too.
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>>136661808
You see ogrest towards the end of the Nox fight.
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>>136663967
being an isometrictactics game is what allowed them to have a niche in the MMO market in the first place.
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>>136662951
>Funny that once she got put in motion on screen, Miranda stole the spotlight completely.
Yep. Just look at her. Hips twice as wide as her shoulders.
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So Oreo was an alternate Yugo
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>>136649624 (OP)
From the Kickstarter:

>On this 1st of March 2023, we can tell you that the lay out teams at Akami, Paris, have finished the black and white backgrounds of all the episodes! As for the colour background lay out teams (the final sets that will appear in the series), episode 07 is finished, episodes 08 and 09 are in progress.

>In Roubaix, the Madlab animation teams are working on episode 07. As for the compositing team (assembling layers of backgrounds, animation, FX and finalizing the image), episode 05 is underway.
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>>136666654
A compilation of alternate Yugos
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During the OVA between S2 and S3, was Yugo or Adamai in the wrong in their dispute? Adamai was a full blown villain at the beginning of S3 and then at the end of s3 he's like 'but I've always been a nice guy" when he punched Eva pregnant at beginning of season 3
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>>136660379
Well, that sounds lame. 

While i'm not interested in watching season 4 per se, i do want to know how they officially finish the story with these characters even though i know the magic's gone and it has been gone for a long time.
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>>136662949
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>>136668951
picrel: bouncy
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>>136666275
>look at her
that thigh
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>>136669242
She's seriously bottom heavy.
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There was a kickstarter for S4? Two years ago?

Oh man, I guess a disconnected from all that mid-lockdown.
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>>136669946
this vid is 2 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs1Sst4f3yU&t=10s [Embed]
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BUMP
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>>136667884
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>>136674875
Not enough Cra feet to be honest
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>>136675580
There are many things this show needs more of.
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>>136666275
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>>136677984
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>>136666654
An entire race of player characters, all condensed into one person to simp for Amalia and suicide bomb the better girl.
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>>136667616
Adamai was always a little bitch, now he's grown up to be a big bitch.
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>>136662859
>but he is treated as a normal thing people have accepted.
He is being at it for what? 1000 years? I don't think the cast even had the power to do anything on the first 2 seasons.
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>>136667616
Even though Yugo was being reckless, I don't think he was in the wrong. Dealing with Ogrest's chaos is a noble goal that needed to be done someday. Having Adamai go full evil retard after the disagreement doesn't help.
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>>136667884
>>136660379
I'll amend that by saying animation-wise they did backload the series a bit, so even though nothing moves well during the first 6 episodes there is a big anime fight for a couple minutes in the final one.

But I think whether you think the final episode redeems the whole series entirely hinges on whether you buy its twist, and it seems a bit late to put an "actually that super underwhelming series might be good" moment like 8 minute before the end credits.
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>>136680078
Iop was around the whole time.

That's one big ass-fucking they can only excuse. No matter what, Dally was Iop the entire time, and he still is.
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>>136681157
He wasn't aware at the time and didn't had his full powers unlocked on season 1/2. Also first time Iop fought Ogrest he got his ass kicked and was afraid of trying again
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>>136677984
>>136678054
Imagine her sitting on you
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>>136681157
The gods tried to stop Ogrest before, they got their shit slapped so hard that they seemingly just fucking vanished for the past 200 years. That's why going to Inglorium in season 4 could be very interesting. Some thought the gods just fucking died, but evidentally Iop is still around. 
Keep in mind, Iop is powerful and can 1v1 Rushu, but he's gotten his ass kicked by Cornu Mollu, his own rapebaby. He isn't omnipowerful and he can't beat Ogrest on his own.
The forgotten brotherhood were all demigods whom oropo and co. intended to take up the mantle of the abscent gods.
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S3 was such a shitshow
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>>136682215
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I'll give Lance Dur that, there's no god or demigod bullshit, they're just hardy adventurers who might be parents or grandparents and are good at wrecking shit.

What's the go-to tool for timing sub file these days?
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the more important question will this show have anything nearly as cool as that time wizard? cause if not why would I watch?
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>STILL no subs for Lance Dur
Fucking lazy frogs do your job
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>>136684223
What program do you use to make subs
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>>136684409
Subtitle Edit and Aegisub are the best ones IMO, there's also Subtitle Workshop
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>>136684422
>Aegisub
Thank you very much!
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>>136682215
To be fair, Ogrest beat their shit after collecting all the Dofus, even if he was overpowered to begin with (thus why he could succeed in collecting them to begin with)
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>>136682445
The thing is that adventurers bullshit make you as strong as the demigods at the end point, just look at the game.
And then you just get demigod status anyway.
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>>136686765
Sure, I just mean that Iop alone couldn't do anything about Ogrest once he got up on mount Zinit. It doesn't matter if he was still around, he isn't strong enough.
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>>136686867
That's true.
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Dofus and Wakfu would be so much more popular if they stopped paywalling the fucking story content and added romance paths. SWTOR did it and that's the only reason it lived for so long.
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>>136686919
it would've been more popular if they weren't constantly reworking how the classes worked, had channels for finding people to play with, seperated spanish speaking users if only into specific text channels and if they had a more coherent progression that isn't just grinding.
Also an english wiki that isn't barebones
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Nox comeback?
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>>136686995
Nox is never fucking coming back. That would be such an ass pull. Let the nigga have some peace.
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>>136686995
Qilby, maybe.
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Does the Dofus series ever get good? Or does is just remain episodic and slice of life all the way through? Does is ever start having an interesting overarching plotline?
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>>136687095
there's a short Ecaflip city special, like 2 episodes
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>>136686995
Please no, they already ruined everything with 'lol I caused all the bad shit to happen' Oreo
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>>136686995
Only if they go the Xelorium, who's whole concept is that time is a mess.
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>>136687254
Meh, it was clear from the start that Nox was manipulated by the Eliacube.
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>>136686950
I just want to be able to do the dungeons by myself.
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>>136686950
The economy in both games is cancer too. It's basically fucking stock trading and any actually useful item is stupidly expensive.
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>>136687434
MMOs tended to have such a long lasting appeal because it forced you to interact with other people. you can always multibox if you really want to. But I just want to be able to find people to play with that can actually understand english
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Just give us an RPG
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>>136687855
Nah, most MMOs with lasting appeal still had most main dungeon doable solo so you weren't ALWAYS forced to get a team.
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>>136687933
I admit I haven't played a lot of MMOs as of late but what MMO's let you do that?
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>>136687959
SWTOR, LOTRO, FF14 and Warcraft. You can do most if not all the story content of those without having a team for most quests and dungeons.
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I can't believe Ruel is fucking dead bros
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>>136688129
does that mean doing those dungeons at your character's appropriate level or just in general?
And how would you propose a system that makes everyone happy? dungeons that scale with the number of players?
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>>136688988
>does that mean doing those dungeons at your character's appropriate level
That one.
>dungeons that scale with the number of players?
That could work, especially since it's grid-based.
Or you can have two version of the dungeon, a normal one for solo quest and stuff and a 'raid' version for guild farming.
Or you just revamp the difficulty system that they already have and like from 1 to 5, it's 'Solo difficulty' and 6 to 10 it's 'party difficulty'.
I'm sure there are other solutions too but either way, something need to be done because constantly having to find at least one other person just to do the fucking sheep and bird dungeons at the start of the game is fucking annoying.
Especially since 90% of the time, you'll find a guy level 100 who's just here farming for stuff to sell to noob or to equip lower leveled guild members / is prepping stuff for an alt account so you'll just get carried and won't even get to play.
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>>136687254
I maintain that he would've worked better if he tried to prevent issues and they happened anyway. Tying his hatred the gods with a hatred of fate makes more sense to me than what they did.
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>>136686781
It shows that people can become badasses through effort instead of having it handed by fate on a silver platter. But even if we leave that aside it was such a fucking joke that every hero Tot writes ends up being an actual god or demigod
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>>136689439
>But even if we leave that aside it was such a fucking joke that every hero Tot writes ends up being an actual god or demigod
He does overuse the 'actually a reincarnation / incarnation' thing but it's pretty logical that after you kick enough asses, you basically end up a god anyway IMO.
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>>136652421
It's basically a final fantasy cartoon except the villains are actually good (fight me) and dally and rule are so fucking great that I experience physical pain each time they are not in screen
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>>136689116
I liked the experience in MMOs of finding people to play with but I understand your frustration, especially if the dungeons are part of the story. Still, traditionally dungeons were isolated from the main story and mainly served as a place for a group of people to get above-average tier loot. I think something *should* be changed about them but I'd at least want the better loot to be reserved for group encounters.
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>>136689622
The fights are great too, when they actually happen.
>>136689643
Nowaday the 'isolated from the main story and mainly for group' are called 'Raid', not dungeons.
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>>136689643
>I'd at least want the better loot to be reserved for group encounters.
Currently, the better loot is reserved to the market.
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>>136689768
>The fights are great too, when they actually happen.
for today standards it has a decent amount of fihts
funny enough last season is pretty much all fights ye people hate it
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>>136652421
S1 was alright, the rest is not worth watching
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>>136689806
>for today standards it has a decent amount of fihts
True but it was still frustrating to watch on a weekly basis.
>funny enough last season is pretty much all fights ye people hate it
Nothing is more annoying than having to wait a week for the rest of a fight. Even worse if it get interrupted by a storyline that make little sense when you don't know the deep lore of the game.
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>>136689439
There are only two characters who are basically god and both have to deal with (yugo has it coming) having fucked up beyond belief
Ruel is a regular person who became one of the ten strongest humans by emulating scrooge MC duck and he is acknowledged by the villains as the strongest member of the group, he fucks up a genie by himself when the other members would have lost that fight
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>>136687337
It could be interpreted as the natural corrupting influence of power beyond his means
Trying to explain everything and have every plot thread circle back to a single source just sucks the magic out of the world
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>>136689806
cause the story sucked
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>All the bad shit happened when he ruled Eliatropes
>Retard Tristepin fighting Ogrest? LoL better help him... by teleporting entire Mount fucking Znit to space just so fragments from it could bombard and kill random people
>Clone yourself and create race of emos
>One of your clones basically proxy controlled most of the villains
>Said clone also wanted to allah akbar gods
>He also (not rly) cucked you with some plant slut
Yugo 'Billions Must Die' God-king
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>>136690057
>It could be interpreted as the natural corrupting influence of power beyond his means
It literally talked to him tho. It was obviously a 'ring of power' situation from the start.
>>136690105
Wait, Yugo was the king of his race? I thought each individual had it's own shtick and he was the adventurer / explorer?
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>>136690135
And Yes I only watched season 1 and 2, I got bored of waking up on the week end just to see it on TV.
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>>136690135
One usually tard wrangled the rest, before him Chibi was the tard wrangler
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>>136690169
>Having a retard tard wrangle his fellow retards
No wonder the race went extinct.
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>>136690105
I hope some of his people try kicking his ass for being such a failure replacement god-king.
>>136690169
Chibi also needs to get smacked for giving up his divine duty to rule the chosen people.
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>>136690200
I guess we should blame the parents
>Be super gods
>No true immortality for your kids, here have some gay eggs
>Also give only one(and his dragon sibling) of them perfect memory cause why not
>Oh and only one of you can talk to us, via esoteric means
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>>136690292
>here have some gay eggs
Don't forget the eggs only hatch under weird ass random circumstance and can be used basically as an energy source.
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>>136687095
Stays episodic but also good
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>>136690055
That's because you're only thinking of Wakfu, but also you're forgetting Goultard who is an actual demigod.
But in the Dofus manga the main char is a dragon, in the Dofus movie Kerubim, who was only a very resourceful and daring adventurer who gained his patron god's favor in the series, is retconned to be his son, and of course Joris is actually host to a dragon.
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>>136690553
Wait, how the fuck is he a dragon when the whole point of Dofus is that all dragons are in their egg forms?
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They should have an arc where they go to the Xelorium and Nox's son is there tard wrangling it, revealing that he was taken to the Xelorium instead of left to die because an Eliacube-born Xelor was too fucking good to pass up as an agent for Xelor.
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>>136649624 (OP)
any drawfags taking requests?
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>>136690867
His egg (the one that had been in Dark Vlad's possession) hatched, simple as that, and he took the form of a Feca because one was there and became his adoptive dad.
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>>136691208
might be some in the drawthread
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>>136690909
I don't remember the wife being pregnant while Nox had the cube.
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How come can Oropo have Yugo's "s1-s2" memories if he's been with Echo for centuries?
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>>136691934
>The "my parents are dead" meme is at least ten years old.
Jesus Christ
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How can we fix Yugo?
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I know it's filler (and more so then other episodes) but i do like this episode.
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>>136691934
IIRC, they had a baby that was just born on the ship that sunk.
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>>136692775
Expend how he fights, the portal gimmick is fun but how they use it limited fight scenes more than it helped.
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>>136692736
The more you think about Oropo, the less sense he makes.
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>>136692736
The new writers don't care, thats how.
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Don't mind me, just fixing S3
 They could literally give him anyone from Brotherhood of the faggots (yes even males). AmaliaxYugo is just shit 
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>>136692741
it's 17 years old
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I'm going to draw Echo!
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It's been years since I got into this fandom. How are things going? Any new projects from Ankama?
>>136694469
Do it! And post it here or the booru
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>>136693723
I remember people saying "oh, Amalia and Yugo is going to be great! It's going to be even better than eva and grovy!" as if they never witnessed how Ankama handles their romance plots. But fuck man, not even Eva kissed Armand. Hell, not even Cleo kissed Grovy either.
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>>136694663
I just started sketching...
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>>136695123
I knew coming back to /co/ was a good idea
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>>136695123
Nice
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>>136687054
>Let the nigga have some peace.

How about bringing him back for 20 minutes?
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>>136696319
Beautiful
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>You will never see this cute dog every again.
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Been into Diablo recently and remembered the diablo-clone Ankama canceled. Coulda been neat. Or ANY single player wakfu/dofus games.
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Can someone give me a quick rundown of the comic series?