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unf... why did Thundercats 2011 fail again?
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You didn't actually watch it, buy merch, or do anything substantial to support it
Neither did anyone else
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>>136671017 (OP)
Same reason 2003 He-Man did.
You need toy sales to back up those costs.
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>>136671017 (OP)
Wasn't funny enough. Simple as.
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>>136671017 (OP)
because after the first couple episodes it became complete shit
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>>136671017 (OP)
Show didn't live up to what the pilot promised. Got some good episodes and characters though.
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>>136671017 (OP)
>>136671049
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>>136671077
that shit failed as well
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>>136671371
This must have been made early in the show, because Lion-O never got respected by anyone: not his team, or the writers. And Cheetara wanted Tygra's cock.
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>>136671465
I'm a furry now?
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>>136671484
You always were anon.
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>>136671465
Wrong suit!
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>>136671017 (OP)
Toys didn't sell, which pissed off CN. 

CN hated all WB-produced shows already

WB denied Lego the Thundercats license despite already doing work on it, so Lego teamed up with CN to release their own rip-off, also to cash in on Lego Ninjago's success.
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>>136671465
More!!!
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bad writing. it wanted to be anime but the writers didn't know how to do serialized adventure so it ended up like the Voltron reboot, an ugly inbetween of episodic filler and the overarching plot awkwardly crammed into a couple episodes each season.
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>>136671046
but i did, i even shared it on facebook first episodes. I just got bored, never something interesting happened, the new characters were trash and the new weapons weren't interesting. 
Apparently there was some drama later on about Lion-O getting cucked but at that point i have already moved on, and realised rewatching the original series before this came out was a way better experience. There was also pic related i guess which was nice.
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>>136671017 (OP)
Everyone in the writing room was pants-on-head retarded except Will Friedle.
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>>136671017 (OP)
It seriously would have been better on a streaming site all episode together.
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>>136671586
Whoops! I can't post more of that on a Christian image board!

Look up "QueenComplex leaked" on google, go to f95zone, make a dummy account, browse the thread, profit
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>>136671397
Yeah, cuz it also wasn’t funny. The action scenes were cool tho. ThunderCats Roar was flawed, but it wasn’t all bad.
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>>136671049
>Same reason 2003 He-Man did.
>You need toy sales to back up those costs.
In that case it's because they overproduced He-Man and Skeletor variants and made it difficult to even get a lot of the other characters.
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>>136671017 (OP)
There were no character arcs.
This kind of show requires character arcs to keep fans hooked. Instead there were a lot of "Everyone is a dick to Lion-O, he learns a valuable lesson, every adult is still a dick to him." episodes. 

/co/ only cares about the story because one of the writers said that after a timeskip Lion-O and Willykit were going to become a couple.
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Eternal reminder that Lion-O was going to get cunny in the 2011 series.
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I enjoyed Roar more than Thundercats trying ot be taken seriously, ffs it's an 80's toy commercial, either have fun with it or fuck off.

it's amazing how She-Ra of all godamn things managed to reinvent itself with a deep lore plot and character development and all that classy shit.
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>>136672031
>a timeskip
Lame
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>>136671017 (OP)
sabotaged by its own staff.
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>>136671017 (OP)
CN didn't want it competing with Lego Chima, which was similarly themed, and would sell way more toys.
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>>136672031
>/co/ only cares about the story because one of the writers said that after a timeskip Lion-O and Willykit were going to become a couple.

That and Lion-O was going to end up being the rightful king after Tygra's failure at being one. Though I doubt everything mentioned in that summary would've made it to the final version. Especially that entire subplot with Slythe and Lynx-O.
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>>136671017 (OP)
clothes
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>>136672795
They'd never get away with having the 2011 Thundercats nude like the first episode of the original.
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>>136671397
POOP MOUTH WITH POOP OPINION
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>>136671465
How is this hot?
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>>136672117
I always found this gross.
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>>136671933
Still remember that time I walked into a Toys R's Us toy aisle and there was an entire section dedicated to nothing but variants of He-Man and Skeletor and not a single other character was represented in the entire section.
Hell even know with these rebooted/nostalgia toys I still see more variants of those two than any other characters (aside from Buzz-Off, why are there always Buzz-Offs).
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>>136675259
oh my
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>>136672780
>>136672802
Pedophiles get the rope
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>Original show is famous for it's theme song
>Let's not have a sick cool modern remix it outside some vaguely nostalgic leitmotif 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcGNqrAtsgg [Embed]
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>>136671017 (OP)
Some of the worst writing in an era with a lot of bad writing. About as bad as 2003 He-Man.
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>>136671017 (OP)
Bad writing.
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>>136677630
He-man was solid enough.
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>>136678522
Solid as diarrhea.
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>>136671046
I watched it with my kids and bought all the toys. I liked it, there was nothing wrong with it, and my kids loved it. They are 17 and 18 now, but still talk about it when the old action figure box gets busted out
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>>136678893
Why shows from decades ago better then the ones running now?
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>>136671017 (OP)
People act like it was the toy sales but in reality it was >>136671371
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>>136671017 (OP)
Because 'mericans are afraid of Japan
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>>136679289
It was both but mostly the toys
Kids matter more than adults
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>>136679289
Execs don't give a shit about quality, just profit and intercompany politics.
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>>136672828
Is there art of them copying that shot? Asking for a friend
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>>136671017 (OP)
CN simping out for Lego chima instead.

The showrunners moved on to TTG after that experience
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>>136680763
>Pretending that the showrunners had created something worth continuing

By the end of the first season /co/ hated the show, and rightly so. "Turns out Pumyra has been a ghost this whole time, and is working for Mumm-ra because she hates the Thundercats for not saving her from getting killed... by Mumm-ra." They thought they had a pure gold cliffhanger when they wrote that turd.
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>>136671017 (OP)
short answer- because LEGO gave them a cheaper and profitable alternative

long answer- this guy's video sums it up: https://youtu.be/mgC2WXZyC0s [Embed]

though, i remember watching this REALLY fat guy's streams YEARS ago and said he didn't liked the 2011 series, it was just boring for him.

the LEGO rewind guy also talked about thundercats 2011 when he talked about the Chima sets, and felt that there had been people who grew up with the 80s show not liking the new version because it wasn't as campy as the original and was TOO serious and too anime-esque.
though i never seen anyone who had that exact opinion.
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I think I watched about 3 eps. at one point Lion-o was doing something egregiously retarded in a mine and I thought to myself "I don't have time for this". Then everyone said the rest of the series was crap so I never watched anymore. 

Don't think we even got much good porn out of it despite the nice character designs
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>>136671017 (OP)
Because you didn't buy toys. No reason to run 20 minutes long commercial, if you don't buy the product.
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On the plus side, it did gave us some good palcomix to fap to.
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>>136672102
Shit opinion, the 80s cartoons were better, if only because of their artstyle
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>>136682903
>Shit opinion, the 80s cartoons were better, if only because of their artstyle
>My NoStAlGiA iS bEtTeR tHaN yOuR nOsTaLgIa
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>>136672031
>/co/ only cares about the story because one of the writers said that after a timeskip Lion-O and Willykit were going to become a couple.
Fuck, I would start watching it.
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>>136672117
Only if you show the pre-timeskip Wilykit.
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>>136671843
is that pic a screengrab from the actual show?!?
If not, that is one hell of a modest edit.
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>>136671933
This fucking shit was the worst. Every single toy on the shelf would be either a He-Man or a Skeletor, or worse, fucking both at the same time.
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>>136683609
To be fair, they were probably going off of the original lines estimates from the early 80s where He-Man and Skeletor would fly off shelves quickly. As they were always in demand and usually out of stock.
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>>136680245
Not that I'm aware of, sadly.
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>>136683886
The original line had a fuck-ton of He-Man/Skeletor variants, it was so easy to get at least one of them (most kids had a couple He-Mans and Skeletors), but the difference is they also had so many more characters.
Just compare the original run and the 2002 run. Wave 1 of the original run had 8 characters, 2002 run had just 6. Wave 2 of the original run introduces 6 new characters, wave 2 of the 2002 run introduces just 2 new characters. Wave 3 of the original run introduces 10 new characters, wave 3 of the 2002 introduces a meager 4. And it just keeps going like that.
The thing is, the 2002 show was full of characters. I get not wanting to do too much at once but it kind of kills interest when a new wave comes out and all it is is Jungle Attack He-Man, Ram Man, Mekanek, plus a single new vehicle. Fuck, the McDonalds run of 2002 He-Man toys was more substantial than wave 2.
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>>136671017 (OP)
Bad writing.
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>>136671017 (OP)
Fantastic pilot that the rest of the show couldn't live up to. Apparently they fired the guys who wrote the pilot and had a cheaper team writing the rest of the show, which frankly I could see.
Also the writing team had a ridiculous hard-on for Tygra that just got really fucking stupid later on, and the fact that Lion-O was the only one interested in technology in the pilot got dropped immediately and Tygra somehow became the team's primary tech guy. And apparently there were plans for the team to split up at one point for no other reason than because they wanted to make Tygra leader of the Thundercats, but weren't allowed to so having him lead A group of Thundercats was their compromise.

A real shame it failed, but honestly it was probably for the best, though would have been intrested in seeing how they were going to handle Wily Kit being Lion-O's canon love interest.
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>>136671017 (OP)
Because outside the first 2 episodes it was a bit crap.
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>>136672102
Lmao, there are people who unironically like She-Ra reboot?
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>>136683273
Always hate how season 2 art of Lion-O never makes him bulkier with a beard. He’s supposed to resemble his father.
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>>136671017 (OP)
it was boring as fuck
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>>136671046
I watched it. 
It was okay, nothing great. Got a little boring early on, hated tigra and cheetara, love the thunder-KIttens.
Snarf being a mute was a waste.
All species on the same planet was a dumb idea.
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>>136671017 (OP)
Because Chima was pretty much the same thing, but far cheaper to make. It also had the lego branding backing it up.
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>>136686017
Yes, it's probably the most liked "woke" cartoon on this board.
It was good.
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>>136685089
I think the plan was always to have Tygra be the "false" protagonist that seems to succeed at first while Lion-O actually learned and grew from the adventures and becomes the rightful king in the end
The real problem was the writers not actually knowing how to balance any of that
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>>136688101
They did a pretty shit job of it sadly, since everyone seemed to be constantly shitting on Lion-O, like the one episode where Tygra fucks with him, Lion-O basically gives him what amounts to a slap on the wrist to get back at him, and everyone immediately starts losing their shit and saying no real king would act like that and basically spent the entire rest of the episode seething at him over it.

I even remember making a joke on one Thundercats fan board how the finale was probably going to be Lion-O getting smacked aside while Tygra leaps out of the tank and steals the Sword of Omens while stabbing Mumm-ra mid-coitus with Cheetara screaming THUNDERCATS HOOOO, and the reaction was basically "Yeah, that sounds about right for how this show's going." That said, I didn't care about the Cheetara thing all that much to be honest, though I know a lot of people were pretty pissed about it. What they did to Pumyra was ludicrously fucking retarded though.
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>>136671017 (OP)
you just know
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>>136671017 (OP)
executive meddling and too many writers spoiling the soup
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>>136671017 (OP)
Do they still allow cleavage like that in modern kids cartoons? Golly
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>>136683465
Someone shooped tits onto best cat.