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I'm working on a video about the general history of the FAL, any cool anecdotes or things you think I should mention? Intro preview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE_OZB1iGLQ [Embed]
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>>57862171 (OP)
Goes into the entrenched interests blocking its adoption in the US in favor of the M14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mby4hOq-DpI [Embed]
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>>57862200
big time i wanted to talk about how we insisted on FAL using .308 then used a different inferior design 

thanks for the link boss
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>>57862171 (OP)
bump
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>>57862219
They said they didnt want to use it because the modularity of the m14 was similar to the m1garand, when in reality it was because Rene Studler is a giant faggot and hates American civilians
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>>57862171 (OP)
Fuck off Beto
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>>57862171 (OP)
Audio sounds really quiet
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>>57863211
gotcha ill turn it up abit in the final cut appreciate it
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After the Indian Army decided to adopt the FAL as their service rifle in the 1960's, they ran afoul of FN Herstal. FN demanded the payment of royalties and the institution of their own machinery and technicians in the manufacturing process. The Indians did not agree with this and instead began to design a weapon of their own using both the FAL and the L1A1 as references. The result, the Ishapore 1A, was a hybrid of metric- and inch-patterns, which renders its parts incompatible with other FAL variants. When FN found out, they got pissed and threatened to sue until then-PM Jawaharlal Nehru managed to placate the company by placing additional orders for Belgian-made FALs, FALOs and MAGs.
(According to my research, the aforementioned 1A is the original version. The 1C is a full-auto variant intended for port gunners while the 1A1 is a copy of the L1A1.)
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>>57862171 (OP)
It's a cheap cobbled together turd compared to the G3 and everyone who's not a weak baby prefers the G3.
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>>57863298
sweet im definitely gonna screenshot this and reference it in the video, thanks Strelok
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>>57863348
you like G3s because a crate of them got shipped here in the 80s and your dad bought 2 of them. I've fired both the FAL is a mans rifle G3 is for brown people to shoot other brown people point blank in the head
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>>57862171 (OP)
appreciate the hotline miami music in the back
you gotta put your voicelines through some rendering you sound lazy as fuck in there
the video itself seems cool, good luck.
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>>57863353
Be sure to post a link.
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>>57863371
bro i was high as fuck and bored at like 3am last night you're exactly right i'm gonna record those parts again, im gonna google voiceline rendering im simple
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>>57862171 (OP)
Might as well post this here, an archive of FAL and FAL-related pictures:
https://www.sturmgewehr.com/bhinton/FAL/
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>>57862171 (OP)
Perhaps not super important information but potentially cool would be talking about the more modern FALs like Ireland's FAL DMR or the various attempts to make 5.56 models
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>>57863370

>Bong teeth drooled over this typed fantasy cope.
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>>57863865
Why is there a radiation symbol on that scope?
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>>57865413
tritium i guess.
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it's well known but make sure to mention that the guy who designed it is the same one that finished browning's hi power.
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>>57862171 (OP)
It's a knockoff SVT40
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>>57865413
Thoriated glass. Thorium-232. Used until the 1970s.
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>>57865508
rep my nigga Dieudonné Saive
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>>57862200
Chris is really knowledgeable about the AR family, particularly from his experience working at Colt but he is deep on the M14 hate bandwagon. In that video he railroads it as a story of FAL amazing, M14 worst rifle ever made because muh corruption.

In reality the FAL candidate and the original Springfield prototype (which was nothing like the M14 or Garand) both shat the bed during arctic trials and Springfield's backup rifle did really well. That's where interest started to switch towards the M14 we ended up adopting.

There were serious production problems with early M14s as well, but had we licenced the FAL and built it here would we have avoided the same issues? It's impossible to say for sure, but seeing as how many stemmed from US DoD approved vendors not really taking the task at hand seriously rather than the design itself being flawed I can totally see them cranking out fucked up, unreliable and inaccurate FALs as well.

TL:DR in researching about the FAL be weary about people who overly circlejerk about the M14 because it's an echo chamber and they tend to cite bad or incomplete sources to satisfy bias confirmation. The FAL and M14 are equally good/bad in different ways, just the priorities of the US military were not a good fit for what the FAL offered so we didn't adopt it. Simple as.
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>>57862171 (OP)
Make sure you mention how Belgian butthurt led the Germans to design a superior rifle.
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>>57865862
The design was already antiquated for its time and while sure the M14 is decent when you play to its strengths it is definitely a clear cut example of regressionism in military tradition and sticking to what you know for the worse, there are many tests that were done later on that showed that service members in 'Nam had their lives saved by the abilities that the M16 offered, particularly the manual of arms when it comes to maneuverability and not just being a Garand with a magazine. 

Sure the heat the M14 gets in retrospect might not all be warranted, but Studler was also a shill for Springfield because he was a former head there and they had him in their pockets. Its pretty cut and dry that corruption in the MIC is what led to the M14s adoption as they ran the AR10 and FAL through extra tests with over pressured ammo that the M14 didnt have to go through, then waived their hands and went "well, I guess this is the best design" like ingenuine assholes they were
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>>57865957
I bring up the M16 because it more or less had the same ergonomics as the AR10 and FAL to some extent just scaled down and if we had started with that as a base as opposed to "muh wood and steel is a real rifle for war" and improved upon that with barrel lengths, magazine size, etc we would've been far better off than we were in our timeline where sticklers to doctrine refused to evolve with the battlefield

Its an lasting stain and embarrassment that the Soviets of all people who dont give a shit about tactics or conscript ability were the first to see the advantage of the intermediate cartridge and the "Assault Rifle" manual of arms, and that we slacked behind for the sake of maintaining tradition
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>>57865957
To boot on top of that the Garand itself was plagued with the same issue as it was originally designed to have a detachable box mag as well but once again MIC tards and upper brass went "well this might not be cost effective since troops will waste ammo, we need to artificially handicap them and turn it into an en bloc system"

tl:dr, we couldve had something in the '40s that was essentially the M14, but retards said it would be too OP and scaled back, then given the new trials for a NATO standard service rifle someone else tries once again to innovate and yet again retards go "nah, too risky lol" and proceed to stay behind the times
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>>57865834
How does one pronounce his name?

Dyu-doh-nay sah-yeev

That right?
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>>57862171 (OP)
The first promotional video for the FAL started with “reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep tonight”
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>>57862200
remember what they took from us
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>>57866818
Dee-U-Don Sow-V. OP video had it right
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>>57863371
>appreciate the hotline miami music in the back
What is this song?