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Internet Archive about to be removed, anons. This is in your own interrest, post the best shit you got from there.
If you're not busy posting in /prod/ then you better be out there archiving all the goodies from the internet archive.

Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com

Don't be lazy and leave feedback. Remember to use clyp.it/vocaroo.com to post your tracks/WIP, avoid soundcloud and blatant self-promo. Leave feedback if you're asking for feedback, note what you're looking for feedback on if you do.
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>>115855822 (OP)
>Internet Archive about to be removed,
I don't believe it.
I can't hold all these milkdrops
https://archive.org/details/milkdrops
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>>115855822 (OP)
https://vocaroo.com/1lJx4dhP9Noe
I wanna make Italo disco. Am I getting close?
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Don't know whether to learn songs by ear, or chord charts or sheet music or lead sheets.
What do?

I want to git gud at making music with the piano and midi keyboard
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>>115856350
>https://vocaroo.com/1lJx4dhP9Noe

You already posted this in previous thread bozo

First 15 seconds is great. Next ten not so much, same with til :37, bland patch/preset and the arrangement continues to depreciate.. 
Everything onwards (4 minutes of atonal, discordant, MUSICless noodling on Bass) should be thrown out.

 Just loop the first 15s or so, let's see how that sounds
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>>115857528

Start making straight up music. Entire songs. over and over and over again. you'll learn all the production stuff over the years but just focus on creating moments that actually excite you. And of course continue to refine ur music taste to better understand what good music sounds like to you.
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>>115857528
A bit of ear, but mostly focus on chords. Get pic related, the diagrams are only for guitar but you should be able to learn all the chords. From there just play through the songs over and over til you start to recognize patterns in the chords.

It doesn't have to be Beatles in the case that you're a gay zoom. Any band that you are very familiar with their music and will have a clear idea of what the song sounds like, the rhythm, the style, to compare against and guide you while your are trying to play it. 
I'd say they and this particular book are a good choice because they have a pretty wide array of songs in a lot of different styles, and it will cover most common/classic chord progressions and even a few more inventive ones. 

It also would be a bad idea to get a cheap acoustic guitar. What helped me early on with theory was that I was 6 months into learning guitar when I picked up piano. This allowed me the chance to take what I had learned on one instrument and "translate" it to the other, and the other way around as I progressed. 

And yeah learning to sight read is a good idea but not crucial. Approach it in a little bit a time manner along the journey of learning you respective instrument. I knew a classically trained pianist that could play the most intricate and difficult pie of Chopin, but couldn't play a fucking lick if it wasn't written on a page in front of them.
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>>115857665
*WOULDN'T be a bad idea to guitar yada yada
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>>115855822 (OP)
lol accidentally found the rectovaginal exam videos up there
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>>115855903
When it goes (and it likely will this Summer), it'll be another crushing deathblow to the old internet. 4chan(nel) will inevitably be next.
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>>115857757
no it wont
its a perfect place to monitor people who think theyre under the radar but arent
shit is fucking honey pot for a good while longer
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ALL MY EMBARRASSING OLD POSTS FROM 10 YEARS AGO WILL FINALLY BE DELETED

I'M FREE
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>>115857839
kek they will be copied and written into your dna once trump is elected in 2032
"state funded" never goes away
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Someone please download any and all old video recordings, as many as you possibly can, we can't let this shit die!
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They're mainly going after their e-books for books that were released less than five years ago, so if you're not a fan of e-books you won't be affected.
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>>115858010
do NOT derail my fear and paranoia train.
we all know where the internet goes.
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>>115857528
Do you have theorethical knowledge? Then it shouldn't be difficult to play songs.
If you don't know music theory you got 2 options: play by tabs or chord books, remember the chord shapes like this anon suggested >>115857665 or learn music theory.
I wouldn't advise chord books or tabs or any of that stuff. You would be able to play songs, but you wouldn't ever understand how music functions. It's the easier and faster way, yes. The harder but better way is music theory. Most theory of popular songs isn't that hard though. Your choice.
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https://vocaroo.com/14MWam4tckYb
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>>115855903
>>115855822 (OP)
AAaah fuck no the one place I uploaded our music the most
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>>115856350
Not sure about close… it sounds like a jap video game version of… something.
But mostly that’s not high energy enough, this isn’t beckoning you to the dance floor
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>>115856350
And the beat, that’s not the disco beat, sorry
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https://vocaroo.com/1lPzLt07R2Nk

Me on guitar...composing a little idea i had...just a demo...the bass sucks i think...
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>>115859602
>>115859584
>>115857579
Ok I'll be straight, that was made in 40 mins at work. How's this for an Italo disco track? Pic related.
https://vocaroo.com/14fdKKrbJoRR
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>>115855822 (OP)
what are the best studio monistors for a really low budget?
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>>115859794
doesnt sound like italo disco to mebut maybe its because theres no vocals
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>>115859794
it sounds like you remixed the dbz ost
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Retard question:

I use Reaper and am going to bounce some mixes. What is best practice as far as oversampling and rendering sample rate are concerned?

I oversample all the dynamic/non-linear plugins. Is there a specific resolution I should go for? Or is higher sample rate usually better (even if it might be "redundant"?)

When it comes to project sample rate.
Let's say that my tracks and samples have been recorded at 48000khz, will changing the final rendering sample rate to let's say 96k or more generally be better (eliminating artefacts and super sonic noise/aliasing)?

I'm reading a lot of forums about this, but I'm not entirely into the science of this yet.

TLDR; to what sample rate should I bounce my final mix, and why
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I get audio crackles in Ableton on one project when i use my speakers through my interface
When i use my headphones through my usb mic there are no crackles at all
CPU hangs around 40% on both setups and they're both set on the same hertz levels as ableton 
I hate all this shit, any idea why it does that?
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>>115860440
And to think people used to just plug the thing and look at the needle going up and down
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>>115860485

Yeah, if I had analog gear and wax rolls that would be ideal
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>>115855822 (OP)
wait where does it say that the archive is getting removed? I know they lost the law suit? also when?
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I'm finally ready to release my EP
I really don't want to shill it but I'd like for some people to at least listen to it, and I doubt anyone will if it's just on my bandcamp
Was thinking about getting a few dozen 7" pressed and asking my some local record shops if I can sell them there, but other than that I don't really want to pay for fucking ads on social media or be cancerous and spam it on the internet, I just want people to be able to find it if that makes sense
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>>115860698
>I'd like for some people to at least listen to it
Posting in /mu/s shill general or some subreddits shouldn't do any harm
Also consider spotify, probably no real money in it but that's where most people look for music, and you can pitch your track to a curated playlist.
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>>115860698
How did you approach mixing and mastering? Did you do it on your own? Any tips?
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>>115855822 (OP)
>>115855903
>>115857757
>>115857767
>>115857839
>>115857860
what do you mean Internet Archive will be removed? Source?
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https://vocaroo.com/171Nq3FQahu3

is there too much chorus on the lead bass or does it sound cool?
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>>115860925
Lies. The government would never fuck with something this big and significant.
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I think im borking my track atm
Can anyone help me out
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>>115862479
post it
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Forgot >>115862479 the link ffs
https://voca.ro/1cgnPaPubPZc

>>115862710
Yeah 

Kinda running a blank on this track
No idea what kind of bassline /sound i want
Drums dont sound good to me yet
And i already took a couple days off
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>>115855822 (OP)
Back on the ambient ride...Well, who here wants to see an anon try and make dark ambient using nothing but reverb plugins, bitcrusher and an outdated synth.
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>>115862720
Its always “dark”.
Dark is easy, its the lazy path.
Try making something in major that isn’t lame, that id be interested to hear
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>>115862843
It's drowned in reverb stuff. It's something to reflect as a mirror to my fucked up autistic head. I don't get the sound design. Let alone making cave ambiet.
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>>115862929
plus I'm aiming to get onto cryo chamber
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>>115862929
Yeah nothing against you, just seems every dude with a keyboard just goes for that DARK feel, but what they’re not admitting to themselves is that’s a cop out for the inability to do much else.
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>>115862982
understandable. I've found that melancholy yet with some light in it fits what I'm aiming for. Inspirations like protou, alphaxone, gdanian, and void stasis are what I'm looking at.
Also Dead Melodies. dude is a fantastic producer for environmental storytelling through sound alone
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>>115862718
Here's a few ideas I had listening to it:
Add some rhythmic/glitch variation on the vocal sample using something like Gross Beat/Shaperbox.
Some hi-hats to carry the groove at the intro before the break kicks in.
Add a filter to the drums and play around with it using some automation.
Add more energy to the transitions, especially around 40 seconds.
>>115861042
I like it, I think it sounds cool.
>>115859794
I'm not hearing it. The sound selection feels off, and there's no groove in it. It feels too erratic.
>>115859643
Very bossa-nova esque, nice.
>>115858744
You like Alex G don't you anon?

Gonna be entering a beat contest soon, wish me luck /prod/.
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>>115862843
What are even some examples of major key ambient?
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>>115863143
Mmm dunno

Harold Budd Pavillion of dreams?
Iasos solo work?
Robert Frippertronics/that eno swastika girls album?
That YouTube guitar channel guy, chords of Orion?
Good GY!BE songs?

The world is your oyster anything is possible doesn’t have to be strictly major key, just, not the same easy horror movie soundtrack bull shit all the time
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>>115863262
I ain't aiming for a horror theme. I'm looking at stuff like, Gdanian - Hidden Sector as inspiration,
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>>115863143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUiUaoG7nrA [Embed]
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>>115863135
>Add some rhythmic/glitch variation on the vocal sample using something like Gross Beat/Shaperbox.
>Some hi-hats to carry the groove at the intro before the break kicks in.
>Add a filter to the drums and play around with it using some automation.
>Add more energy to the transitions, especially around 40 seconds.
Thanks
Any ideas to giving the whole thing more groove? a synth? a bass?
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>>115863135
>You like Alex G don't you anon?
LMAO god damnit. yes. huge fan of his earlier music
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https://vocaroo.com/12LX1u9kVn8O

extremely unfinished rough sketch, I would just sit here and finish it, but I have to go out. critique is very much appreciated
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>>115863383
Maybe accent some syncopated bass notes? Not sure. I've always found that groove lies in drums and bass, toy around with the relationship between the two and see what you come up with.
>>115863429
Nothing wrong with wearing your influences on your sleeve. Keep it up homie.
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https://vocaroo.com/1gCXhXrDyt0k

do you think this sounds messy or cluttered?
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>>115863737
Alright thanks anon!
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>>115855822 (OP)
Noooo. What?! Why?
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Stayed up all night and did this bit
https://vocaroo.com/1b0jIVcPyfgg
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>>115860698
print a bunch of qr codes for your album and start leaving them around your city
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>>115863930
this is really nice anon
>do you think this sounds messy or cluttered?
nah, keep doing what youre doing
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>>115864006
this might be really chill but
the synth is a bit weird
sounds muffled
kicks a bit woozy
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>>115863554
good start, I like the clean low end on this. highs from the sample are still a little piercing when turned up loud enough to enjoy the bass, so I'd eq those down maybe. otherwise it sounds good! just needs some more changeups+flares to fill it out I think
>>115863930
sounds good, not too cluttered, the funk/pop fusion is fun, this part feels like it could be the bridge to a longer song with some more verses
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>>115864075
is woozy kicks a bad thing? :S yeah I have got some reverb and filters and stuff going thats why it sounds muffled, it's supposed to come down for a sec here and then open back up as the more delay-y line comes in but maybe I don't have it dialed yet I need to listen on more setups. thanks for listenin
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>>115861050
>The government would never fuck with something this big and significant.
Good one, Patrick
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>>115864463
WE'RE ALL LIVING IN AMERIKA, AMERIKA, IT'S WUNDERBAR!
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How to shill your music effectively?
Like on YT for example, how to make your videos pop out on someone's starting page of YT? Or to make them appear in the related videos section in similar bands? I don't mind paying a few bucks.
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>>115865080
Make a good track. Unfortunately you haven't done this, so start again
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>>115865157
I have some relatively alright tracks, I mean, some people would probably enjoy them or at least tolerate over silence, but we all know the quality of music is a very minor factor when it comes to its reach.
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>>115865080
I'm not sure. When I start putting shit on my bandcamp or SC page I'm not really going to worry about if anyone hears it cause they won't. I still need to find out how to get my music on Spotify and apple music
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Can someone give me a tutorial video/channel/tips or something on making drums? Every time I load up a kit I start hitting shit on my drumpad and I like the sounds and I'm trying to get the timing right but it's so hard to make drums that aren't boring. I don't want to draw them in because I want to learn to use my equipment
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>>115865408
I don't know what kind of stuff you're making, but I'd say listen to more music, pay attention to drums and try to emulate them sometimes
Weird sounds are good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPV_bL_YOho [Embed]
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>>115865194
>but we all know the quality of music is a very minor factor when it comes to its reach.
Your subjective opinion about quality, most popular songs have qualities even though they arent yours.
If your opinion of pop music is that it's easy to make and any halfwit who can string together a 4chord song can reach the pop charts, you're just never going to make it. You dont have the qualities to make such a song.

Do realise there are entire industries built around making pop songs. People alot more qualified, talented and knowledgeable than you and there are thousands of them.
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Bumping

First time ever trying to make some rock (usually more of a Jazz guitarist). I even wrote some lyrcis for that demo (but i will probably never record it - too cringe)

https://vocaroo.com/1gficOxAbM9L
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>Share song in one of the shill threads
>People say it reminds them of different artists
>Listen to those artists
>Their shit is really good
>Get confidence boost
>Discover new artists in the process
We're doing it, boys. We're improving.
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This shit blows. I should have made friends instead. Today was a beautiful day and I spent it sitting in a dark room, tinkering. I've tinkered away my youth.
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>>115870877
what about making friends who want to tinker with you?? you could try posting something to craigslist musicians, maybe a long shot depending on where you live but I met a couple cool people this way before
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>>115865194
That's a crazy thing to say bro. 'who cares if my tracks are quality or not, I just want views and listens.'

You should like your tracks and want to listen to them, and not just becasue you made them, but because they sound great to you
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>>115871440
Really well said anon. The only reason I even make music is because I ran out of new shit to listen to in my favorite genres. Views don't mean shit, fame doesn't mean shit, if just one person hears your song and it impacts them or makes them feel, then your music is alive. And that one person can even be yourself.
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>>115871706
This is what happens with the democraticisation of tech and its only going to get worse with AI. You get tasteless idiots creating tonnes of albums they don't even like and making the sea of garbage that much larger
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>>115871758
Meh. I think the community/labels aspect of the music world will act to balance this, it always has. Passionate artists will seek out communities they fit in and be motivated to make shit that people find worthwhile, and the labels and channels and stuff will naturally filter the best to the top. Chaff will just sit around, if nobody is sharing it nobody will ever find it, and if it sucks nobody is gonna share it. IDK how spotify works mind you I would assume that platform is just pay2win so yeah you might see some stupid shit getting promoted on there
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>>115871857
>you might see some stupid shit getting promoted on there

yeah the top 100 chart since it started
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>>115855822 (OP)
NO WAY I JUST KNOW
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>>115871857
>the labels and channels and stuff will naturally filter the best to the top

Cutely naive, naively cute. You don't get to the top naturally...especially if you have zero connections into the industry, however niche/indie or whatever it might be. Anons ITT believing they will just send their tracks to a small label or playlist curator and be then magically "discovered" that will be kickstarting their career will have a rude awakening. It's not going to work that way.
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>>115871929
You misunderstand, I don't mean 'top' of the entire industry. I just mean, any label is gonna have albums they promote selectively or that gain more relative popularity because of algorithms. This **TENDS** to make stand-out releases easier to find. In reality it is both random and subject to influence, social factors and all of that. You are right that making good music is no guarantee of getting views, and making the connections with curators and actually getting your music published is an entirely different question. My point was only that the 'sea of garbage' the other anon mentioned won't be as big of a problem because labels will (mostly) want to promote good music not garbage
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>>115858145
You can extrude the theory from chord books over time. Trying to just learn theory outright isn't worth much if you don't have any experience in how it's applied.
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>>115869792
this would be more interesting with a melody but the instruments sound good and stuff
i think the guitar is too distant though
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I like the idea of power electronics, but I'm not big on the screaming or the really abrasive sounds, like the 2edgy4u parts. I just like the idea of making music from "natural" electronic noises and simple waveforms. Is it worth exploring musically?
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>>115872350
>this would be more interesting with a melody
yeah, it's basically just the basic rhythm guitar - the melody comes with the lyrics (which i will never record - i can't sing)

>i think the guitar is too distant though
recorded it with a mic infront of the amp. i hadn't had an audio interface at hand...

anyway, thanks for your feedback. i barely get feedback in these threads
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>>115860479
Do you have Ableton set to exclusive control?
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>>115860479
Which interface, which OS, and what's your buffer size? Asking because I have a MOTU interface that doesn't like buffer sizes above 128 samples in Windows for some reason. It could be something quirky about the drivers.
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>>115872029
I understand. But even the low level "top" stuff isn't there by mere accident. Put yourself into the shoes of some curator or small indie label manager: you probably will get hundreds of demo tracks on a daily basis. The chances that the right man/woman hears your stuff by accident, likes it, signs you etc. is basically zero. 30-40 years ago, maybe you had a chance that way, but today? Every damn zoomer calls himself a producer now and all they do is putting some loops from sample packs together...lots of music managers and labels are jaded and stopped accepting demos for this very reason. If no one important reccs you, you will probably never make it. 
Times have changed. If you wanna make it (big or small, whatever) put your face outthere, have a media presence, manage it daily, build a community, be extroverted, connect with people, do live shows and proof that you're a musician...not just a bedroom producer. It's a grind, and all that non-creative but equally important stuff on the side is draining. Are you up for that? I personally decided against it...i focus on my music, maybe upload some stuff here and there on soundcloud to share it with friends and family, but that's it- The industry and business part of music isn't my thing...so i will never "make" it, but it's okay. Whatever way you choose: good luck.
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>>115860479

Let me guess, you are using the focusrite scarlett?
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>>115860440
48Khz 24 bit : Recording/Production format

48/44.1Khz 16bit : Release format

48Khz gives you an audio range up to 24Khz, well beyond you're hearing. 24 bit goes below The noise floor of human hearing. This is great to work in as its very flexible and usually the standard up to mastering, where it will get converted down to consumer formats.

Some people get antsy on the 44.1/48 thing. Don't. Just use 48, the advantages are purely technical but they're enough that I'd stand over this.

There's no advantage to working in higher sample rates other than for very specific circumstances (varispeed). Any plugins that would require it, such as some forms of distortion modelling, do it automatically. There's been no evidence that high sample rates will save your DAW the effort computationally.

t. A guy who makes music for a living
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>>115872192
>Trying to just learn theory outright isn't worth much if you don't have any experience in how it's applied.

Agreed. I am just talking about basic music theory though...he doesn't need to study Bach or Mozart to understand the concept of popular music. 
Here's what every producer should know at least:

- Major scales
- Minor scales
- Circle of fifths
- Chord construction
- Degrees (I - ii - iii etc)

That's it ... and it doesn't take much to learn it. With that basic tool kit you can bascially deconstruct every major pop song from the last 50 years and then easily play these songs. Forget about reading sheet music...i don't think it's needed anymore if you don't wanna write down your stuff. And even then you can just write it down like this: Cmaj7 - Dm7 - G7 etc...no notes needed.
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>>115872833
You might have overestimated how much interest small labels see, and underestimate their desire to scoop up talent? What you're saying is probably true of larger labels that will actually pay you to do music as a sole career, but if your goal is simply to distribute your music, and your stuff is quality, I think there are tons of folks who would happily put it out. It's not like it's a supreme amount of effort to post a youtube or bandcamp upload, and it is a symbiotic thing. Labels want good shit in their catalogue and yeah they will listen to serious submissions. Also local labels are ALWAYS trying to grow, if you fit in with their niche and talk to them in person it's almost a sure thing.
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>>115872996
>common practice era propaganda

Without non functional harmony you basically can't understand most modern pop music. Explain Gypsy - Crystal Waters or even Purple Haze by Hendrix?

What you list is a good start but it basically stops making sense outside of very white or country influenced music by 1967.
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>>115872989
Thanks anon. I've always been confused by the 44.1k/48k thing.
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>>115873076
>if your goal is simply to distribute your music, and your stuff is quality, I think there are tons of folks who would happily put it out

You can do that yourself these days though - no labels needed. Distrokid, Soundcloud & Co. allow artists to distribute their music to all major streaming platforms. I guess what you mean is promotion and PR...which is totally different. Sure, there are online agencies that will do it for you, but it's pricey and not a guarantee. So, the stuff i mentioned still applies here too: put yourself outthere and be more than just a bedroom producer in the sea of millions of bedroom producers. Just good music isn't enough (never was to be honest).
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>>115873097
>stops making sense outside of very white or country influenced music by 1967.

Well yeah, we are talking about western pop music...that's what i was assuming at least. If you wanna study microtonal polyrhythm indian music, western music theory doesn't help much....
But i highly doubt that's the thing most people are interested in...so, basic western music theory is often enough to play the big songs.
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>>115873362
I am talking about western pop music. Deconstruct My Generation by The Who or Smells Like Teen Spirit and 18th century classical harmony doesnt work
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>>115873337
Even without active/paid promotion, just releasing on a label inherently benefits you because of the hundreds or maybe thousands of people who check that label for releases. Nobody's seeing your stuff on distrokid unless they searched for you. Small labels are the lifeblood of music these days because they connect listeners and artists that would never find eachother otherwise and allow those artists to grow without entering the sphere of viral industry BS. It's just how the underground works, everyone wants to help eachother because everyone has the same goal-- the music
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>>115873474
Absolutely. But i posted earlier why it's almost impossible for a nobody to get signed these days. The smaller the label, the more pretentious, hipster and picky. You really gotta stand out from the crowd. And getting signed isn't the end goal and won't boost you that much either. If you think you got what it takes though, go for it. But personal real life connections will always be superior over niche netlabels.
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>>115873666
Can't argue with Satan
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>>115873430
You can totally deconstruct Smells like teen spirit with basic understanding of music theory. 

- 4 Power Chords
- Written in the key of F (it's only power chords, so no minor or major shenanigans, power chords are missing the 3th degree which determines the quality of a chord)
- Progression: F - Bb - A - D 
- Or: I - iv - iii - VI

That's basic music theory and it's all you need for the beginning...no one said anon should write entire operas. With that knowledge you will be able analyze EVERY modern pop song and play them too. You will naturally get more knowledge if you keep at it and dig deeper but that's the bare minimum some producer should know and you can get that knowledge in a matter of weeks.
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>>115873719
To add on that: i don't know much theory myself, but i can play any song i want to learn without much struggle on guitar. In fact in learned "Smile" from Nat King Cole last week. I only need to know the chord names, don't need to read sheet music. It's totally enough and fine. Or this 12 bar blues...tells you everything you need to know.
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>>115873719
The problem is you're making the music fit the mold by just looking at the root motion of the progression.

It's in F minor, the melody will tell you that. There's a b3 and a b6, very much natural minor. But the chord progression isn't really power chords, it's more like F sus4, Bb maj, Ab Sus 4, Db Major. You hear that in the opening.

But Bb major would make it F dorian. And the sus chords aren't really functioning in any way to add resolve.

I'm not trying to go in on you, but this view that academia and YouTube musicians offer is not helpful and will make life more confusing. Understanding chords is understanding scales, modes and also voice leading. I'd just advocate a broader approach, jazz harmony offers this to some extent but still gets sucked in by (((Big Chord))).

The book Harmony Through Melody and a jazz book or two is a much more comprehensive way to understand modern music.
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>>115873812
Part of me wishes music theory was more empirical, and people teaser out how harmony works through experiment rather than just blind reading. 

But the problem is that classical musicians teach it, and they don't understand it themselves. Performers work blindly and have no grasp of what they parrot. "Oh that's a polychord" they say as they play what they see as C maj over A min. They can't see outside the paradigm, and they dictate the syllabus.

One of the worst crimes of Western Music Brain on the Internet is David Bennet's Strawberry Fields Forever analysis. Can't spot the key changes. The voice leading, anything. Just has big mozart brain that can't help him with a 4 minute pop song.
--- 115873941
>>115873812
>Ab Sus 4, Db Majo

Right, i got the second half totally wrong and so i wrongfully thought it's written in F. You clearly know a lot more than me regarding theory - but that's no achievement because i said i only know the basics - which is enough for my needs. 

>Harmony Through Melody 
Noted and added to my list - but i gotta finish "Modern Method for Guitar" first...it teaches music theory too.
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>>115873869
>One of the worst crimes of Western Music Brain on the Internet is David Bennet's Strawberry Fields Forever analysis.

Are you fucking serious? I love his videos, he's taught me a lot...he seems to know a lot.
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>>115872029
No
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>>115873869
All the good music is when people are still fumbling around, learning as they go.

When it’s reached the point where it’s all professionnals and it’s taught in universities and every little part is intellectualized and pre-solved: dead.
See pop music, jazz, metal, etc
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>>115873952
He's fine as long as its within that CPE world of simple Major Minor and Tonic/Dominant relationships. But I think he's basically like those AB Music Theory books and he often incorrectly interprets things in a way where visual score language overrides the actual events you hear. The Strawberry Fields one is a perfect example. That tune does not work like he thinks it does at all. He misses the B minor key change, the line clichés, lots of stuff. No jazz knowledge.

>>115874195
In a sense. It's good to learn as much as you can though. The problem is the learning is very prescriptive rather than descriptive. They act as though all the problems are solved. The reality is modern harmony still has a lot of question marks over it, there's a lot of ambiguity.
--- 115874374
who needs theory just put on more delays at different intervals until it works
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>>115873941
That's all good. I just think people get pushed down the wrong holes with a lot of this stuff.

If you're more a person who likes learning theory through the instrument, I'd also recommend Exploring Jazz Guitar by Phil Capone. Does all the modes and musical ways to interpret them, using pentatonic outside of blues harmony etc.

Very insightful book
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>>115874363
>They act as though all the problems are solved. 
Yes and they apply the same answers before questions can even appear.
And then wonder why people feel nothing for their work
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>>115874363
>The reality is modern harmony still has a lot of question marks over it, there's a lot of ambiguity.

Care to elaborate? Always willing to know more...like, are there big questions still in music today similar to the big questions in physics or what do you mean?
--- 115874450
I usually have three saturation busses, one for mid and high and one for the entire frequency spectrum. Is that over the top autistic or is that how it's actually done? also dicks
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>>115874450
IDK anon does it sound good?
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>>115874430
Look at things like the Petrushka chord, look at Altered Dominants as a concept. They break out understanding of tonality being important.

I think the emergence of microtronal music is really interesting. Specifically the way a lot of it seems to be 24tet, like that King Gizzard record. Before we used to be flexible in our view of this stuff - 'blue notes' etc. Will we become a world of heavily prescribed microtonal harmony also?
--- 115874597
When you guys want a sample of a certain kind of sound (e.g. the sound of waves on a seashore) how do you usually go about getting them? Record your own? Sample websites? Rip audio from youtube?
--- 115874630
>>115874597
freesound.org
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>>115874597
google: royalty free *sound descrption
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>>115873869
It helps if you know the piano and play it. You won't understand music theory just playing round on a daw, you have to play and know an instrument.
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>>115874485
I like it a lot
https://vocaroo.com/1fnq1MJa1pTy
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>>115874545
I think i get it now. Once a genre has been "solved", it dies, fades into obscurity and becomes niche. That's why new music genres come and go (like Jazz, Nu-Metal, Emo, Trap). Microtonality could be the next big thing, only to disappear once it has been solved.
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>>115874597
All of it, depening what i need.
--- 115874941
Anons what is a definitive beginners guide to FL Studio? Having trouble understanding everything.
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>>115874805
You could even see it as a video game.
Its not quite that its been solved by others but that playing that game/world/level just isn’t fun anymore
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>>115875050
I really like this analogy
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>>115875050
I will never understand that mindset. Been listening to Boom Bap since i was 13 and Jazz since 20. There are some games i have been playing for over 10 years (no, not WoW). I think "normie" taste for entertainment is manufactured by the industries, and they just gobble up whatever the industries feed them: always onto the next hot thing...trend hoppers and influencers do the rest. If it was for me personally Boom Bap and Jazz would still top the charts. "Solved" games don't necessarily die out like some music genres.
--- 115875222
>>115875139
I guess l often compare jamming/playing improv as opposed to playing a video game.
In one you have to build and invent everything as you go along, reacting fast to what the other’s playing, anything can happen and anything can fuck up any time, it’s an infinite trove of chaos and problem-solving, results unpredictable and quality varies but the process itself is so much fun… compared to pushing buttons to go through the storyline someone else all thought of. Boring as fuck.
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>>115875198
I dont know if i follow… genres “dying” and the personal experience solving/playing them are such different dimensions
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>>115875198
are those genres really dead though, or has the mainstream paradigm just changed? I think it's just like games, Overwatch and Minecraft may have replaced Mario and Duke Nukem as the biggest things, but nearly every game still has some dedicated players. Every genre ever made has 100 revival bands still playing it in some bar somewhere
--- 115875289
>>115875239
There's always going to be people making music in every genre, even the ones you consider "dead."
--- 115875301
>>115875289
Well yeah, them being “dead”or not is more about the mainstream and music industry issues etc yada yada
--- 115875323
i just found out about pete& bas if im 80 i want to still vibe like these guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e5oKp-tCY4 [Embed]

im gonna produce a drill beat i think kinda into it
--- 115875421
Anyone ever made beats using only ammunition sounds? Guns, bombs, explosions. I’d try but I’m lazy, so steal my idea I don’t mind
--- 115875660
https://vocaroo.com/16BgaRL7Zruv
What do you guys have to say about this?
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>>115875660
pretty cool
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>>115875421
MIA done that
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>>115875775
Did she or did she just use a sample of 3 gunshots
--- 115876233
Made a thing after work today. what do you guys think of this?
https://vocaroo.com/18b9xnih39GB
--- 115876707
I feel like I am always thwarted by my lack of musical prowess, I've just read a small amount of music theory and then I punch things into the DAW but usually it sucks. I feel I would benefit from learning to play piano for real but whenever I try to practice by playing pieces I just start wishing I was composing instead, and then when I'm composing I realize I need to study music so that I don't get writers block/make bad compositions.

/blog
--- 115876745
Has Frootyloops considered producing some kind of product named "Pro-duce"
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>>115876707
You need constraint. Not more options, less.
If you were technically gifted you’d just feel thwarted by that.
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>>115876707
just play as much as you can. fuck around and improv. don't think about it so much just do it, it's the hours you actually spend with the instrument or the DAW that teach you the most. don't be afraid of sounding like shit or of scrapping projects that's part of learning. also you don't need to learn pieces either unless you specifically want to get good at playing pieces. captcha=GAYPM
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>>115876707
Learn some jazz standards, play with the arrangement. It's just as creative as composing
--- 115876944
What are some tricks one can use to make sample-based midi instruments sound like ensembles when they’re playing the same melody? Especially for strings and horns.
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>>115876944
get sample pack of an ensemble? lol
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>>115876944
Alter the velocity and aftertouch / expression. push the modulation wheel up and down, swell with the movement of the phrases
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>>115876889
Doesn’t learning pieces make it easier to transcribe music though?
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>>115876944
Don’t all play the same notes 

See>>115876932
arrangements
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>>115876233
Horrible.
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>>115877912
that's what my mom said about ur dick last night
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>>115872774
I tried both ways
>>115872811
arturia minifuse, windows, 512 samples

i only have that problem on one project but i don't use any plugin that i don't use elsewhere, weird
--- 115878980
how long does it take to learn how to play by ear? like how many years or months?
--- 115879305
>>115878980
Depends how fluent you expect to be. Just put some music on and play along, and make sense. Then get better at it.
--- 115879977
Anyone here familiar with SCSI? I have an old Emu Emulator IV and as I've been learning to make multisamples I like, I've realized its internal storage is low and floppy disks are unreliable/expensive. Would plugging any old SCSI harddrive add more storage?
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>>115876233
>https://vocaroo.com/18b9xnih39GB
Not horrible, just too repetitive/needs some variation.
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>>115876233
the 80s where 80 years ago grandad

also what genre is this
https://voca.ro/1NN6jZ3yxUrX
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>>115879977
>Would plugging any old SCSI harddrive add more storage?

Not any old drive, but one with the right interface connected with the right cables, yeah. Bear in mind that it'll need to be set to a different SCSI ID than your internal storage and likely because of that your sampler will only see either the internal storage or the newly added hard drive.

Best option and is what I did with my Akai S2000 (with some internal mods to allow internal connection), is to get a SCSI2SD and fit that internally to replace the existing internal storage, you'd need to transfer all of your samples and banks etc to the new storage but once you've done that you'll have a more reliable and more easily-expanded internal storage.
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>>115880108
>because of that your sampler will only see either the internal storage or the newly added hard drive.

*at any one time
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>>115874941
how about you search "fl studio beginner tutorial" on youtube
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>>115857528
A mix of everything desu. There's basically 3 ways of doing it, just the order of the steps changes:
1. learn by ear
2. figure out chords
3. transcribe them to sheet
or
1. Learn from songbook (mostly chord diagrams)
2. Hear how different chord progressions sound.
3. Apply same progressions to other songs.
4. Use different voicings for those chords 
or
1. Learn from sheet music transcript (notes, mostly melodies)
2. Learn different rhythmic and melodic patterns.
3. Apply those patterns to other songs by transposition.
--- 115881456
https://vocaroo.com/1gUbGSWFRZ72
Le epic cringe lyrics
--- 115881724
i knw this is stupid, and i know its played out to post about this on 4chan, but i dont even read other boards, the rest o them are packed full of fucking idiots. this one's good. im not looking fro solace, but im going to kill myself. i got everything i need to do it right here tonight, and im going to in after i make sure everything in order. i dont want to make anyone here feel uncomfortable or wierd.. i have shared loads of music w you guys over the years and had a good time. i just thought it was right to let u guys know. i hope that anyone here who wants i twill make it, i know u can you alwys sounded real good. night guys
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>>115876177
It's the same gunshot three times
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>>115881724
>giving up before he makes it
ngmi with that attitude. also inb4 someone makes a song about you. jokes aside though, as someone that's been there my best advice is to keep searching in life for that reason to live. if you want it, it will come to you my friend. however, what you choose is what you choose and I wish you the best of luck. I hope the next one is better.
--- 115881940
learned how important low passing white noise is. Still, getting good keys to reverb for the pattern is the new difficulty...
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>>115876233
Exemplary sound and mixing but boring arrangement. Sorry bro
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>>115881724
We'll miss you. Good riddance.
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>>115872989

why downsample your music if you're not going to release to CD but only streaming/download? 
wouldnt rendering out your project in a higher sampler rate help with foldback and aliasing if you use a lot of saturation or compression, and some of them lack functions for oversampling?
--- 115883731
Made this unmastered bit today: 
https://voca.ro/1QFeYwfVi0b4

I've been struggling with mixing as I don't have monitors nowadays. I got a plugin to flatten the EQ curve in my Beyerdynamics, and am currently trying to figure out how to mix without being entirely oblivious to what is actually going on. Idk if I can trust the plugin though... 
Rabbit hole never ends. 

Went for a sort of jazz vibe.
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>>115875660
>https://vocaroo.com/16BgaRL7Zruv


This is cool! I kinda hoped I was gonna be blasted by the intro bass riff at some point. Like make it even louder and more in your face. 

Was kinda sketched out by the snare sound, but it's cool that you vary the processing. Felt like it could be a tad snappier and perhaps a tiny bit louder.

I also like the pads and synth fx that come and go - the contrast between narrowing and widening the stereo field keeps things interesting
--- 115884183
>>115855822 (OP)
I haven't found anything saying the Internet Archive is to be removed. Stop gaslighting me.
--- 115884641
Is the guy who was remaking The Final Cut still here? Do you by chance have a link to the Vocaroo of your version of the title track?
--- 115884654
https://soundcloud.com/criticalfailure

any opinions?
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>>115884641
https://youtu.be/-VTJe7bNTwg?t=1920 [Embed]
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>>115874941
"In the Mix" on YouTube is excellent.
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>>115876745
Mm, the hyphen is too much.
PROduce is better, but it reminds me of PROdouche, which is not good.
>>115876986
Yeah, learning pieces helps build your musical vocabulary just like reading good literature affects your word choice. That guy is an idiot, or has a low level of what he deems acceptable, like a baby babbling until something good comes out of its mouth.
>>115881724
Please don't. Life is always evolving and changing. Push through the shit and you'll experience things that you never imagined you would.
>>115882530
qt
--- 115886344
https://voca.ro/1gy1FObWSAcs

first attempt, still fuguring out
--- 115889126
bump
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>>115872192
I don't really think we're disagreeing here big guy Pop chord book (Beatles in particular like I suggested) will cover that. Chords before scales so they can contextualize and have a grip on keys when they really start digging into scales.
--- 115890138
I'm exhausted and have no time to work on music, any advice welcome
https://vocaroo.com/1dskYHmiw74a
>>115886344
Cool, sounds like vaporwave but not sampled? Also these snares sound kinda off?
Now slow it down basically, and add delay and phaser/flanger/chorus and loop it. And you have vaporwave :DDD
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>>115886344
cool loop/sample but whatever your doing with the drums is way off. way too loud and doesn't line up with the sample drums. Either that or your'e filling every single beat between the sample drums with a fucking snare. Idk sounds bad, everything else good.

Try to only subtly beef up what the original drums are doing, maybe a more constant hihat so it feels like its picking up/ going somewhere.

There I s fun trick to be used here. Notice how the drum machine loop he shows at 1:20 become the base of the song, and the actual drums at 13:08 only strengthen and complement them.
https://youtu.be/hskDnpfyW84 [Embed]

Full song for context-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfZYfM1RxAw
--- 115891124
>>115855822 (OP)
What do you guys think of this?
https://vocaroo.com/15EqEE6c5tBL
--- 115891215
>>115883594
No because the saturation plugins should be oversampling and filtering to avoid introducing aliasing into playback. The render should sound identical. We just remove the 8 bits of headroom because we don't need 140+dB of headroom for listening. 16 bits covers that fine.

You should look into how oversampling works if you're concerned. Dan Worrel has some good content on YT that covers this stuff well.
--- 115892069
Is there any non-esoteric reason to prefer a analogue synthesizer over a digital one? I want to buy a Studiologic Sledge.
--- 115892490
>>115891215
not every plugin has oversampling or ultrasonic filters though? reaper can manuallly force OS or alleviate it by increasing the sample rate as far as i understand
--- 115893236
How do you learn a DAW without getting frustrated?
I feel this insane man vs. machine disconnect when I try to produce. 
I'm using Ableton but I don't believe it's Ableton's fault. But everything just feels clunky and finicky to me. I want to scroll from left to right on the timeline, it starts fucking zooming in and shit cause i minimally move my mouse up/down as I move it to the side. I wanna make the piano roll larger because it's ant sized, but it just ends up making it "wider", but the notes are still all match stick thin. I get fucking frustrated (not in a ragey way, but in a way that takes the wind out of my sails) and all inspiration I had to make music leaves me. God damn it. Everything just feels so clunky operating a DAW.
--- 115893254
Hey, how do you change the melody of a vocal line and make it sound natural? I am afraid i gotta pitch it too high which makes it sound weird
--- 115893395
>>115893236

Most of the GUI actions are in the earlier sections of the manual, but here's a couple of ones you know and maybe one or two that you don't.

>1. You can set the overall GUI size/scaling in the preferences under "Look Feel -> Zoom Display"

>2. Image related for both re-sizing the piano roll and the audio edit window, and for both horizontal and vertical zooming
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>>115893236
>I want to scroll from left to right on the timeline
use shift+mousewheel
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>>115893236
Fl studio is shit. Everything is counter intuitive. You gotta learn all the shortcuts, its the only way
--- 115894008
>>115893395
Oh thanks for the image, didn't know you could also operate it from the side
>>115893583
Yea I did find that out eventually, but these lil things keep happening to me and makes me feel like I'm wrestling with technology rather than using a tool. Wish I could skip the interfacing learning process cause it fucks with my music making.
--- 115894477
>>115894008
just stop whining and go on practicing. It is hard for everybody in the beginning and you need to have patience. You also need to have fun. See the features of ableton as possibilities, not as something you need to use or you should use. If you have a certain sound in mind, something you like and want to emulate, and you then try to make it happen with ableton, you will make progress and you will develop your own style, but you will never be able to use anything your DAW can do.
--- 115894647
https://vocaroo.com/12EQ17pnWZe7

Any thoughts on where to go from here song composition-wise?
--- 115895094
Been sampling all day on Ableton. Its the best! Really improved, I can't believe you make a cut and there's no issues. I am using zero hardware and killing it.
--- 115896190
Learning songs by ear is so goddamn frustrating, feels like I haven't made progress since I started.
--- 115896206
>>115896190
what's the purpose of learning it all?
isn't being able to play along more useful?
--- 115896388
>>115896206
I'm not sure why so many people think it's necessary. I could play anything I heard on the radio and any pop-music-level song when I was 8 years old and couldn't understand then how people could not do it. I know lots of great musicians that can't do that at all. Actually hardly anyone can do it, I never met anybody that can do it on the level I can, but I'm not a better musician because of that.
--- 115896433
>>115896388
Are you one of those people that sit on Omegle and have people tell you what song they want you to play?
>but I'm not a better musician because of that.
Yeah, nah. If you can do what you say, you absolutely are a better musician because of it. If you can play what you physically hear, you should be able to play what you hear in your imagination. I'm assuming you do this easily and without hunting and pecking/hitting wrong notes chords while working things out.
--- 115896484
>>115896433
>Are you one of those people that sit on Omegle and have people tell you what song they want you to play?
no... I used to do it at parties though, but I don't show off at all anymore, feels shitty when you improve and look back at it later

>you absolutely are a better musician because of it.
I don't think so. Music for me is just a system, I recognice patterns. I started thinking about sound much later in my life. As a kid I would acutally record Game Boy music on cassette and listen to it in my walkman, and later and even now I'm very forgiving to bad sounding music if it has some nice chord changes or melodic devices in it. So, I'm not a great musician by any means, maybe I'm a good composer and arranger, but I know people who can't play by ear at all but have a great tone and can jam.
--- 115896736
>>115896206
I want to become better at making music by doing so, I don't have a vocabulary and Idk what to play. Learning scales and chords hasn't helped at all. So now I want to learn songs.
--- 115896788
>>115896484
Composers/arrangers are muscians too...
Pattern recognition at that level is a skill.
>>115896736
Great call, fren. 
Scales and chords are like words; after learning those you need to read actual work to get a feel for how to use them.
I would also recommend learning pieces via sheet music as well, but learning by ear definitely forces you to internalize what you're learning more than just reading sheets.
--- 115896847
>>115896788
>Composers/arrangers are muscians too...
yeah, true. That's why I want to use my skill to do something good. Others should do just the same, don't focus on stuff you can't do, focus on the things you can do and share them with the world. If you can't play by ear, you will probably never learn it.
--- 115896954
>>115896847
>If you can't play by ear, you will probably never learn it.
This is absolute bullshit, bruh. I imagine 99% could learn if they really wanted to.
I ~can~ play be ear, but my accuracy isn't 100% because it's not a skill that I exercise. I'm sure I could improve it if I were just to pay more attention to what I'm doing.
--- 115897003
>>115896954
you can improve if you have a certain skill to start with. But if you don't even grasp the concept of playing by ear you should focus on something else.
--- 115897629
https://vocaroo.com/11yBwdy0UwaW

I killed off a load of the top end like some anon suggested and played with the arrangement a bit, again, critique is very appreciated
--- 115897974
>>115861042
MOBW

I know u asked a specific question idc fuck u, sounds a bit like a dungeon tune that is lacking the body and the non-musicality of dungeon, theres a synth that plays on the drop, starts on the off beat, it sounds super cheesy, like Coki steppers cheesy, i'd lose it at least until later in the tune. 
Like i said, play into that techno-esque, non musical feel of dungeoun more and this tune will make more sense to the ear. Percs are spot on imo, very inoffensive, just enough to carry the idea of the tune without disrupting anything. It's rare that people post good dubstep here. cool man

also, very very very slightly too much chorus yeah, a hair
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>>115858744
very homosexual, anon. do u like willies, anon? i bet you do, anon.
--- 115901046
>>115900004
depends, are they feminine?
--- 115901673
>>115901046
no
--- 115901847
https://vocaroo.com/1on9U0KfPUlo
wip, feel its missing that special something,, lemme kbow how the mix is xx
--- 115903962
>>115855822 (OP)
https://voca.ro/15EqEE6c5tBL
thoughts?
--- 115905210
>>115870877
Messed around with contact mics today
https://vocaroo.com/15wCGbzacCbr
Not much yet but I'd like to do more with this. Good foundation I think

>>115871268
I live in Toronto so I literally have no excuse. Moving to Montreal in September, at which point I'm going to force myself to start acting like a person. Til then you can call me tinker bell
--- 115907077
>>115893236
You ditch the daw and go full hardware
--- 115907611
Is there a website where I can just download VST3s without an email adress and a standalone program? I just want a god damn guitar in a DAW I don't want to dox myself to a botnet.
--- 115909169
>>115858744
This is great! The strings and the trumpet/synth that hit with the percussion are choice, it has a very wistful feeling to it. Beaut of a voice too

>>115901847
This is WILD, the beatswitch is insane and the drone and vocal samples are very well. I think maybe a little more definition in the upper range could help but desu it sounds pretty solid as-is. Is there a name I can find this under?

>>115903962
Very danceable, the drums are my favorite part. The bass is a little muddy until about :23 seconds in but otherwise this has a good feel to it, kina Oingo-Boingo-esqe. I keep waiting for Elfman to come in

>>115905210
Very textured, but its hard to judge with how abstract it is. Give it some bouncy kicks and make it a house track or something?


I feel ambitious about the wall of sound and chords here, but do let me know if anything is too loud in the mix
https://vocaroo.com/14MWam4tckYb
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>>115909169
I fucked up the link in this one so im reposting it verbatim till i can delete it


>>115858744 #
This is great! The strings and the trumpet/synth that hit with the percussion are choice, it has a very wistful feeling to it. Beaut of a voice too

>>115901847 #
This is WILD, the beatswitch is insane and the drone and vocal samples are very well. I think maybe a little more definition in the upper range could help but desu it sounds pretty solid as-is. Is there a name I can find this under?

>>115903962 #
Very danceable, the drums are my favorite part. The bass is a little muddy until about :23 seconds in but otherwise this has a good feel to it, kina Oingo-Boingo-esqe. I keep waiting for Elfman to come in

>>115905210 #
Very textured, but its hard to judge with how abstract it is. Give it some bouncy kicks and make it a house track or something?


I feel ambitious about the wall of sound and chords here, but do let me know if anything is too loud in the mix

https://vocaroo.com/1c7x8ntODVQ9
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in the idea phase still. might slow down the bpm on the second recording
https://vocaroo.com/1lFv0tl0tFo4
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If I go the Vektroid/Blank Banshee route and just release my shit on bandcamp, can I literally just sample whatever the fuck I want without clearing them?
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I hope you guys enjoy this

https://voca.ro/18Xtlahq3Sdg
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>>115911366
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>>115907611
ah, good ole avaxhome, sketchy but did i ever get a shitton of vsts
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I am once again asking you to listen to my rock song. vocals are to be written and added. it is not really mixed, thoughts on just the song itself?

https://voca.ro/1lbia1ja66yq


>>115875660
I say it is a nice track but deserves some saturation and low-passing to make it sound darker, it sounds a little DAW-y right now.
but nice work and proper use of samples.
I dont know if its a stylistic choice but the snare sample has very little release, is there something you can do with that to make it more, not natural, but conventional?

>>115876233
This seems like some form of 80s revival. the bass synth needs saturation and darkening, perhaps replacement with another plugin that is closer to the original sound. Nice backing chords, I respect your ability to actually say something with them and building tension. Nice phrasing anon. just paint it with a lead melody and work on giving the mix a more period-accurate feel.

>>115876944
that's tricky, because even a real ensemble can sound a bit weird in a monophonic context. maybe monophony isnt precisely what you are looking for. When I toyed with orchestral plugins I found what helped was arduously playing with dynamics, it was no fun but the end result was sorta impressive.

>>115883731
this is sorta haunting but the sax/breath/brush snare thing sorta weirds me out. the tonal ambiguity is really amazing though. I say your main focus could be instrumentation. preserve what is going on it the back but your lead melody needs to picks sides. I cant tell if its on the natural side of things like a voice or more like a dodgy lead like in an Arca song that does weird shit and sounds artificial.

>>115911366
I fucking love this. Did you write this or just sample it. it is LITERALLY a beach boys song. reminds me of "shes goin bald" if animal collective covered it.
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>>115909811
no
>bandcamp
have warnings about that shit.
i have old cassette mixes that would be fun to share but they're so full of everything that it's a copyrights complete nightmare
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>>115911614
>I fucking love this. Did you write this or just sample
It's my arrangement of this: 

https://youtu.be/8F2jf0NRl2Y [Embed]
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>>115911617
then how does goreshit have all their stuff up there for example? most of his albums are heavily sample based
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>>115912000
They might not give a fuck, no idea if or how bandcamp enforces their rules
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>>115911969
Im super sorry anon, I was actually referring to >>115909539
I accidentally replied to you
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>>115911617
We need to bring back rave tapes lads
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this shit got some cool video game ambience to it
https://vocaroo.com/1bhRTVl6dEIQ
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>>115915719
nagger bass nd trap hats. i wish u wud haf warnd me.
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>>115915816
do u need a hug
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>>115915719
melodic suggestion for you anon
https://vocaroo.com/1iUhmhFZV27J
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>>115915912
no fart into the mic 0/10
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>>115915845
Probably. Haven't had one since my friend got married (10 years ago) and I got a hug like everyone else when congratulating the bride... Maybe only have had 3 hugs from non-family members in my four decades of life.
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>>115916755
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>>115916638
darn I really missed an opportunity there
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>>115916893
Thank you, anon.
>>115915719
Sorry. The atmosphere is cool, I'm just not a fan of blown out 808 bass lines and trap hats. I love late 90s/00s videogame music though.
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>>115855822 (OP)
As long as they keep Johnny Rebel on there I don't give a fuck.
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>>115917036
>Sorry. The atmosphere is cool, I'm just not a fan of blown out 808 bass lines and trap hats
ok cool nigga? I will admit the bass is comically blown out and only sounds good on my headphones
>>115915912
I love it bro but do you want another synth to play that on top or do you want me to change the sole synth line to that?
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>>115911366
it feels like bass and guitar are not playing the same song
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>>115917326
i want you to buy some glowsticks and tape them to a small battery voice recorder, hit record, put a blindfold on, spin around and throw that bitch into the woods, then remove your shoes and make gutteral screaming noises while you stumble and trip around the woods looking for the thing, once you find it i want u to hold it in your mouth then sprint full tilt into a tree, then stop the recording, load that bitch into akaizer and time stretch it down like 40%, pitch it down a bit, load it into the daw, and just upload that. thanks anon
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>>115855822 (OP)
>Internet Archive about to be removed, anons.
It's not though. Why are you trying to gaslight people?
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>>115855822 (OP)
>Internet Archive about to be removed
are ya fucking serious? why?
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>>115917504
I would like to hear this as well
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i can't mix to save my life
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>>115918935
who is threatening you life?
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>>115919159
I am. He manages to evade me every day, but I am getting closer.