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--- 43074635
Do people just not play this game anymore?
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>>43074635 (OP)
/jp/ is too fast for elona now
--- 43076947
I still play, wheres cgx for the latest 2.17 ? DUDE ILL EVEN DONATE
--- 43077510
>>43074635 (OP)
No updates and the discord is a better place to talk about the game. I've stopped going to the threads a long time ago because they just weren't very interesting and it was all focused on Plus instead of OOMSESTepNC.
--- 43078994
I'm waiting for the next CGX before I redownload onto my new computer. I also don't OP because I'm worried I'll miss something.
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>>43077510
Where’s the discord?
I’m gonna be depressed if Elona general disappears forever.
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>>43077510
>discord
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>>43074635 (OP)
Waiting for Elin news
--- 43080739
The Discord really is, sadly, more useful than the thread. No offense to the thread, but it's also very up-to-date on the meta of the newest versions and is more searchable than going to /jp/'s archive. We had a good run, elonabros!

>>43079905
You can find it on the wiki.
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>>43080739
Anyone and everyone who uses disc*rd deserves to be flayed alive and force-fed their own skin.
--- 43081547
I feel like it’s tradition for /jp/ to have an Elona general at all times.
Have all the old guard really left?
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>>43081547
/jp/ hasn't been the same since 2020
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>>43080739
The OOMSESTepNC links on the wiki are dead. Also the twitter account that the rentry guide says has the updated discord link doesn't exist anymore.
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>>43081547
Whoever made the last proper thread did I guess, since we're now two threads in without the standard OP. I wouldn't really care except that it has the instructions for fixing the errors noobs always get, and it can get annoying when those aren't in the OP.
If some newfag who was binge-watching old Sseth videos reads this, set the game to Windows 7 compatibility mode. You're welcome.
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>>43083131
I still have the link to the last thread that got the OP
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>>43074635 (OP)
I stopped playing because it causes my shit to overheat whenever I run it.
--- 43085393
>>43085207
Clean the dust out of your computer.
--- 43085394
>>43074635 (OP)
Every time I start an elona run, it just makes me want to play cdda instead for some reason.
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>>43089451
this
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onii-chaaan
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>>43077510
>discord
No, anything but that.
--- 43100292
Does anyone use the custom NPC system? Sometimes I've considered using it to make an OP pet, but it felt like it'd be a bit much, even for this game.
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>>43074890
nah most of the /vt/ spam that filled the catalog is gone.
--- 43106163
Damn. Came to the jay after some years to see if Elona threads still exist and this is all that's left, huh?
I'm probably gonna start playing again. I've got the itch.
>>43077510
Shill me on whateverthefuck that is over playing E+ again.
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>>43106163
If you like grinding hard in Elona, then OOMSESTepNC is way better than Plus. Attribute uncapping so you can go beyond 2k, insane grinding methods where instead of raising your attributes with herbs you kill mobs that drop rods of wishing and end up with hundreds of them. OOMSESTepNC is THE greatest xianxia game ever made. Sadly the creator has stopped development, but as it works really well, and there's still tons of content to go through.
It also has a bunch of other features that carry over from other omake variants like extra gods, South Tyris that's different than Plus, and a customizable continent that works like a played owned house, a few extra guilds including a prostitution guild. There's a blacksmithing mechanic where you can upgrade your weapons yourself, but it's a giant pain to level. 

If you like Elona for roleplaying and making playing with your waifus/husbandos, Plus is probably better, but if you like the powerleveling aspect of Elona or Disgaea, then OOMSESTepNC is a straight upgrade. 

I think there should be a link in either the pastebin of the previous thread or in the discord for the download link.
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>>43074890
Yes, we went ~12 hours without a post last week and died. It's sad.
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>>43106163
Will ehekatl be a dude in elin?
--- 43108061
Recent changes to E+ have made the early game incredibly easy, to the point that I think you could beat NT in ~10 hours without any powergaming strategies (e.g. overpowered pets) or starting from a gene. Feels kind of silly but I don't hate it, just like I didn't hate the PP skill cap at 15 vice 50.
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>>43107387
Is Elin even alive anymore? I've been out of the loop.
>>43106470
Sounds like I'm sticking with E+ then.
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>>43108415
It got a demo released during new years
--- 43109631
This is why Oomsestep NC is funnier than Plus.
--- 43110871
anyone got it running on a steam deck ?
--- 43110997
>>43074635 (OP)
>Elona
The best part of waking up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig3GaDGPVj4 [Embed]
--- 43113980
Am I supposed to take the plot seriously? the game's tone is so damn all over the place
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>>43113980
The plot is much more serious than the game, but the plot is also barely related to what the player is doing, except act 2/3 in Plus, which is a fanfiction gone super saiyan.
--- 43115393
90%+ anons on /jp/ don't have Discord anyways so the Elona Discord won't work for them. Beaides, don't you need to verify a phone number for that? Shit sucks.
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>>43115393
It was also made by criminal data thieves who'd previously exploited peoples' computers with a nearly identical platform. It's basically a glorified trojan, I'm honestly amazed that there are still people dumb enough to use it.
--- 43117373
What the hell is the point of slime molds if you can only use the limbs if you currently don't have the limb? Is it only for snails?
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>>43109631
Does oomSESTep force you to use arial or are you making an active choice to make your font look worse
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>>43117373
For pets.
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>>43115015
Good thing he learned not to do that in Elin
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>>43119178
Is there any non-obvious use for it, or is it just a bit less random than using a gene machine to add limbs?
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>>43124787
Ano has added a ton of pure roleplay stuff recently (which was apparently part of his master plan considering the hundred+ special actions he has added since he started) so I imagine the slime mold will either do more in the future or it's purely intended for somebody to roleplay using a healing slime to give a pet a missing limb... or something.
--- 43127639
I wanted to play OOMSESTepNC because of this thread, but is anyone in the discord with the Nesuko Custom DLs capable of posting either the DL itself or an invite link to it? All the Discord invite links I found on the wikis are dead, and the official Twitter account doesn't seem to exist anymore, either.
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>>43127639
Can't you get everything you need from here?
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/oomSESTepNC
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>>43129083
Thank you, somehow I never found the github page. However, when trying to compile it with HSP351 it's throwing me an "#Error 12 in line 6051 (southtyris.hsp) --> ファイルが見つからないか無効な名前です" error, but I don't think I've done anything wrong according to the Github instructions. I'll keep messing with it.
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>>43130766
If you want a working version of OOMSESTepNC, I've found this page after searching for a bit :
https://rentry.org/8vkaw
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>>43134406
Bless you anon
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>>43134406
Thanks for the help. It turns out the file I was missing was nc_board.txt which I, (mostly out of curiosity) yanked out of the download you linked and shoved it into the folder I was trying to compile and it worked. Now I have two installs!
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>>43135533
Does that mean the repo's missing a file? If so, someone should probably let the dev know.
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>>43077510
>discord
Oh, so THAT'S where the irrational Plus hatred comes from.
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>>43141508
>irrational
Or people actually prefer Noa's vision of the game to Ano's (which has strayed far away from its original premise).
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>>43142449
You sound like a cultist.
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>>43143031
>nooo you have to put up with plus's MMO tier progression curve forever!!! 
I think omake is trash I just can't stand plus's desisgn philosophy moreso.
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>>43143080
Who are you quoting?
--- 43143434
>>43143421
You (you speak like an annoying nasally faggot in real life).
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>>43143434
So you're saying that you've been spending a considerable amount of time concocting fantasies about me in your head, including fantasizing about my voice and sexual orientation?
Well, I can't stop you, but frankly, I'm not actually interested. Your personality is too caustic. You do you though.
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>>43124787
You could theoretically use them for heirship on a mutant at the start of the game to develop a full set of slots (12?), wear disturb growth equipment to clear North Tyris, go to Gavela to max out at 15 slots, then have the added slots per level to get 27 slots. Not sure what the mutant meta is nowadays.
--- 43144810
>>43144617
Good point, being able to inherit them might make them useful for that. You can only use a slime mold to gain a slot if you don't already have a slot of that type, right? Mutants start with Body and Hand (and Shoot/Ammo of course), so you could gain one each of Head, Neck, Back, Ring, Arm, Waist, and Leg.
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>>43143080
>you have to put up with plus's MMO tier progression curve
Why not just play old school runescape
14 hours of fishing will get you 1 level all the same
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>>43144617
Disturb growth and +10 hand slot strategies don't work in E+ anymore.
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>>43141508
Irrational Plus hatred has been around nearly as long as Plus has existed for a variety of bullshit reasons.
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>>43144160
See? You're still attempting to communicate with me in that pansy, smart-ass, passive aggressive tone. Why SHOULDN'T I point out the obvious decadence and sickliness in your character?
>>43146136
Do you prefer World of Warcraft expansion hell instead where the game is virtually unrecognizable from its original iteration under some false pretense of "evolution"?
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>>43106470
>Plus
>roleplaying
lol

>If I choose to not use one of the billion super powers my character is granted for leveling normally that's roleplaying!
lmfao
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>>43080945
A few days ago I thought that this sounded unnecessarily violent. Now I'm convinced that it'd be far too lenient.
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>>43080945
truth
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>>43146644
Why not? Because the build itself sucks, or because disturb growth can't hold back the sheer amount of EXP?
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>>43155097
>Because the build itself sucks
Yes, there are hard limits on multi-wielding and number of attacks per turn.
>or because disturb growth can't hold back the sheer amount of EXP
Also yes.
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>>43157306
Doesn't Custom-GX have tweaks that fix both of those problems?
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>>43158190
>Doesn't Custom-GX have tweaks that fix both of those problems?
Yes.
It doesn't bring back EXP to the snail's pace of vanilla levels though, but to Plus 1.9 levels, which I think had a good balance for the amount of content in Plus.
--- 43158417
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/noacat/elin
--- 43158785
is noa still under attack by electronic brainwaves-chan
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>>43158785
Him and everyone else.
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>>43158417
It's a prequel? Interesting.
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>>43158785
Noa should've accepted the waves and tap into the Noosphere
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>>43158417
Whose idea was this? is it fine to do kickstarters nowadays?
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>>43158417
It's really Noa's and not a fake, right?
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>>43167110
Posted on his twitter and relayed by JP sites 3 days before tool.
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And there seems to be an english account now ran by one of Noa's friends
https://twitter.com/lafrontier1
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>>43171739
will rueken go back to making elona art again?
--- 43173893
Im just gonna ask here, what do I do about the following message when trying to shoot?
>矢/弾丸の種類が適していない
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>>43173893
To explain in other words, I can't shoot anything when pressing f
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>>43173893
You're playing a videogame in a language you can't read and asking us what it says when there's an option to play it in a language you can read? Are you serious?
I also don't read jap but I've played enough videogames to guess that you don't have an appropriate ammunition equipped for your ranged weapon, or don't have a ranged weapon equipped. Maybe you missed a "brainwash" message because it was in a language that you can't read.
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>>43174149
I can read jap, just because I can't read every word doesn't mean I can't read any words and playing a game in the language is an excellent way to improve.
I believe I know what the problem is anyway. 適する confused me at first, but I believe it's because I doesn't have crossbow bolts equipped, but arrows instead when I am using a crossbow.

I am not gonna insult you back because I would rather be nice. Here's a cute image even though you don't deserve it.
--- 43178283
Not even a thank you for telling you what the problem was?
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>>43178283
No. Eat shit, bitch
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>>43178283
I had the solution figured out so I didn't read the latter half of your message and you triggered me alot with that first part.
--- 43182018
So do I start with Elona+ or oomSESTepNC?
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>>43182018
>>43134406
So 2.12 is the most stable and preferred version? I just saw that there's already a 2.17 but the custom-gx thing only goes up to 2.15 whose download is now gone.
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>>43182046
>custom-gx thing only goes up to 2.15 whose download is now gone.
?
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>>43182135
I'm a retard. I just saw that, looks like the git keeps a download of the actual game.
--- 43185867
i started riding pascal and gave her custom ai to make her an archer and the griffon gun, now she just destroys everything automatically while i walk around, what is a better weapon to give her ?
--- 43191365
How do the survival extender work exactly?
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>>43191365
it extends your survival
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>>43191365
https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
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>>43074635 (OP)
I used to.
No I play gacha.
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>>43074635 (OP)
elona kinda boring ngl
--- 43199348
Lulwy's ass is super interesting.
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>>43173893
your weapon and emo are not suited.
like you equipped bow and bullet or gun and arrow
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>>43199348
All the guys in town prefer Shena's ass.
--- 43209633
I've looked all over the internet but I can't find an answer to this question: when exactly do job boards in towns reset? Is it 3 days or something? Playing elona+ custom gx
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>>43201808
>Shena's ass
Where is her statue, then? Face it, her ass is as real as Eyth.
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>>43209633
I'm pretty sure quests rotate, so when one times out a new one takes its place.
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>>43209633
I think this is it:
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/blob/3e62ca7379cf09654690afbcbdaf55e3732bcb7a/2.05-custom-gx/quest.hsp#L108
Looks like up to 4 days? I'm not familiar enough with HSP to know whether "rnd(3 + 1)" means "(rnd(3)+1)" or "rnd(4)".
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>>43074635 (OP)
I have tried it, but I could never understand how to get anything done in that game. It doesn't help that there are few resources in English.
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>>43219134
What do you mean? what's not to understand?
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>>43219134
If you have any questions, ask them in one of these threads, and some oldfags will probably pipe up with answers.
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>>43219397
It's a pretty complex game. For a total newbie, figuring out how to survive hunger, enemies, and the Etherwind is harsh. Everyone needs advice early on.
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>>43228091
what got you stuck specifically?
--- 43229198
Is there a faster way to get plat besides quests and dungeons? Quests are getting boring but I also don't want to do a dungeon for 30 minutes to get like 3 plat.
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>>43229198
Nope.
Hunting, escort, and challenge quests are insanely quick and easy. That's all there is to it.
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>>43229198
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Yacatect%27s_gem_stone_of_god_medal
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>>43221791
>>43219397
>what's not to understand?
How I'm supposed to get passed second floor of puppy cave and what I should do after that. I would grind my combat skills until I can do hunting jobs, grind more plat and still die on floor 2 of that cave.
This is despite wanting to get farther because I find the design of this game interesting.
--- 43229528
>>43229508
Are you playing vanilla or plus? what class are you?
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>>43229528
Plus and most characters where Juere Warriors as the wiki recommended but I tried other combinations as well. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if Elona moves slower then other rougelikes I played.
I also just read on the wiki that I can upgrade stuff at a blacksmith so mebe I'm a retard.
--- 43229720
>>43229508
>dying in the puppy cave
how?
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>>43229716
Personally I'd say try a lich, they get huge racial bonuses nowadays. And yeah, getting all your gear to +2 or so makes a big difference.
What fighting styles have you been going for? For a new player, I'd probably recommend two-handed melee and/or throwing grenades. You can always switch to something else later after you're more established.
--- 43232534
>>43229508
You could try to avoid the puppy cave for now and just try and complete your first random lv 1 nefia you find in the overworld after stat grinding.
It'll be a bit easier since 
1: floors aren't randomly generated so you can run upstairs to escape enemies and not get mobbed by the newly generated enemies in the floor you ran to
2: you probably won't meet those caster enemies which are lightning bolting you and your allies to death
After that, or before, you should go to port kapul and do the quests to unlock the gene machine. Mainly for the one free additional monster ball you'll get which you can use to catch one of the better early game pets. Make sure to bring the gene machine back home afterwards.
--- 43239213
I miss old elona threads with custom image OPs like you wouldn't believe
--- 43239368
Is there a skill checklist I can double check so I don't have to subject myself to the fucking thieves guild again for a single skill?
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>>43239368
The skill trainer page has a table listing all the skills and which trainers give them.
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>>43239368
By the time you're worried about chasing down one final skill you should have a few scrolls of gain attribute.
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>>43106470
So this is the power of discordfags...
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>>43229720
Maybe he is playing Loss mode.
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>>43239213
Be the collageanon you want to be
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>>43229720
If you just walk straight into the puppy cave from Your Home there's a good chance that something in there will kill you. It's not immediately obvious to a beginner that the quickest way to become good at combat is walking people and trash across the continent and picking apples in Yowyn.
--- 43245156
Is riding useful? With how easy it is to raise speed with picnic baskets and stuff, I feel like there's not much of a point. Especially with the casting and accuracy penalties. Is it mostly an quick early game speed boost?
--- 43245418
>>43245156
In my book, the main benefit is that it removes the multi-limb speed penalty (for both rider and mount).
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>>43245418
Whoa good catch I never thought of it that way. How would that be set up? I'm assuming that I can just add a bunch of body parts to my character, but what about the mount? Can I just spam speed rings on him or does he need armor/resists as well?
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>>43243379
She wasn't always like this was she?
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>>43245480
Everyone needs resists. And remember, pets can only hold 20 items, which includes equipped items.
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>>43241621
>It's not immediately obvious to a beginner that the quickest way to become good at combat is walking people and trash across the continent and picking apples in Yowyn.
No it's not. I played some more Elona last night and three characters got into a death spiral failing hunting job, geting robed by inland prates and spending whats left to eat drink and get my little girl back.
ty Anon
>>43232534
>You could try to avoid the puppy cave for now and just try and complete your first random lv 1 nefia you find in the overworld after stat grinding.
I'll try that with a new character.
--- 43249777
What happens to our guy Ruin0x11? He hasn't updated the github pages for more than 3 months.
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>>43201193
I got the problem solved, but thank you for replying to me and trying to help.
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What's the strat for AP?
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>>43253001
Dive into the void
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>>43254685
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>>43249777
Where does he usually hang out?
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>>43249497
TY to the old fags, I found the dog in the Puppy Cave but it died on the way home. I love this game.
--- 43265534
elona is dead
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>>43265534
Discussion will be revived when Elin come out.
Is there any plan for new demos by Noa?
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>>43077510
There’s a discord? Why would you ever create that.
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>>43272679
Anyone got a guide for mount sprites?
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>>43276004
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Custom_portrait#Character_Sprites
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>>43245779
Nah, she went coo-coo from all that ancestral arch-god blood running through her
I bet my left nut that she and Kumiromi still love each other though, despite the circumstance
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>>43106163
>Came to the jay after some years to see if Elona threads still exist and this is all that's left, huh?
Same. Look how they massacred my boy
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>>43081962
The vaccine got 'em all...
--- 43287257
ebona v rot
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>>43284038
Didn't miromi go insane too in his own way?
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>>43285362
board got too fast man
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Is there a limit to how much stuff I can place on the floor in my cave?
--- 43293188
>>43292775
yes, you can get more storage by either
>upgrading your house
>buying storage room/dungeon deeds
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>>43293188
That's very good to know thank you.
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>>43293211
forgot about the last way, which is adding floors to your home via staircases.
Just make sure you buy them in pairs 
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>>43293234
Haha that's pretty cool that you can do that.
--- 43294808
When I see a love heart above an npcs head and I get this message when I approach them, is that supposed to mean they are pleasuring themselves?
--- 43295445
If only there was some way to know what those messages said.
--- 43295586
Imagine speaking English
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>>43295445
None of these say masturbation. The sentence doesn't say "this person is masturbating". What is it about a language you can't read that makes you want to be an elitist like this?
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>>43287755
Kumiromi was some kind of alien lifeform that gains some sanity upon meeting young Ehekatl, he presumably just reverted back to how he was without her
>Itzpalt left his wife for a younger girl causing her to become insane out of jealousy
>Mani is ruthless and killed Eythe to replace him 
>Lulwy was a Mani's simp that got manipulated into killing Eythe and became heartbroken after Mani abandoned her
>Jure got a case of identity death 
Somehow only Opatos is the only normal one, kind of
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>>43294808
That or they're having the sex
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>>43296644
What happened to Itzpalt's wife and Jure?
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>>43296879
Itzpalt's wife kidnapped the younger girl's daughter and erased everything about her until even her own parents forgot about her. No one knows who she is, what she is or where she came from. Itzpalt's wife released her as the ultimate revenge after she has been imprisoned until she is mad. Jure was originally another Goddess, who has a sister. But she died and lose all memory of who she was. The trauma of her sister death also ensures that she will never want to remember what happened. She is now a new person without any of her previous (traumatic) memories
--- 43297154
Elin demo released more info about the gods.

Itzpalt's wife was Odina, who died. Her reincarnation is Jure, after realizing this he's been getting better.

Mani is an atheist god lol

Eyth was tricked by Mani and Lulwy into breaking an ancient pact and was cast into the void

Two new gods, Elin and Yakasha
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>>43293320
Do be aware that there is a limit of 400 item stacks in a map

More means they get destroyed starting from the oldest
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>>43295835
Why would you assume the person is masturbating? The message just says they're busy. Maybe you should look around and see what they might be busy with.
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>>43074890
I miss when it was slow enough for sound threads
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>>43297154
wonder if there's going to be a quest to restore Eyth to his former glory
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>>43304705
Doubt it. You start out as believing in Eyth of Void (not infidel) but you can't do any religious stuff.
--- 43306928
The game kept turning the sound back on even though I changed it in the settings and it was changed in the config. I just renamed the sound folder in the install and now we're good.
--- 43314704
>>43314535
Man, so good.

I really hope that artworks come out alongside the kickstarter, help promote it a bit.
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>>43314704
Rueken's artwork or 001's?
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>>43315865
All of it, desu. Even with the very limited demo people have made stunning builds. If Elin grabs people's creativity the same way Elona did I'm hoping to see lots of beautiful art.
--- 43318539
>>43318440
I hope so too
That said, the eng twitter need to be more active and post things other than reddit posts
--- 43322524
I wonder how the plus changes in 2.18 are going to work out.

Having xp reduced to a quarter might mean I don't have to actively avoid basket and herb ins
--- 43325921
>play for 5 hours on and off
>forget and leave the game on while I go do something else
--- 43326907
>>43325921
Yep, the game has quotes for leaving it running. Up to a whole day, I believe.

Also, hey, I've seen your deaths on the server elochat feed.
--- 43327527
>>43322524
>actively avoid basket and herb ins
You can't "actively avoid" those things because the only way to get them is to create them yourself. You just passively avoid them by not creating them.
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>>43326907
Yeah I know, just thought those two looked good side by side. I'm not Annonith, I don't really bother writing death messages.
--- 43338400
Anyone have a link to the Elin build or at least the old one.
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Are there any anons that have experience using magic equip? My gut instinct is that it's shit because I feel like you would lose more damage from failed spells then you would get from the spell modifier. 

Also does anyone know why my pet's DV is so high?
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>>43107341
>>43074890
Threads die on /jp/ from not having a post in 12 hours now?
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How do people get up to date information about skills? For example, I heard from somewhere that having extra hands gives you more strikes as a martial artist, but others have said that it only gives accuracy. I don't know what is true. I also don't know how dual wielding works with 3 hands, etc.
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>>43339095
High evasion skill.
>>43340723
If you're playing + you can just read the wiki and then skim the changelogs for the past year or two.
Better to just not worry about it though, Ano hates autistic minmaxing and penalized multihanding mutant exploits.
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>>43340723
For Martial Arts, you get extra attacks by equipping gear with the "It increases the chance of an extra melee attack" enchantment. As long as all your Hand slots are empty, you can get up to 8 attacks total, but you'd need a lot of extra attack enchantments to pull that off regularly.
Also, extra Hand slots will, in fact, only give accuracy:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)/1.90_-_1.99#1.91
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>>43339095
Cast chance with medium armour and warmage is 97%. Magic equip is +20% damage. Factor in that it applies to pets in medium armour as well and they have a cast chance of 95% regardless of equipment weight and it's even more of a no brainer.

WRT dv, what race is your pet? Some like quickling have extremely high dvmod.
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>>43340897
Is dual-wield just gimped then? I heard that the skill only removes penalties instead of adding accuracy/damage.

>>43341005
Ahh I see, one of the old guides mentioned extra attack with extra hands. The changelog doesn't mention removing that, but I believe you when you say that all extra hands give is an accuracy bonus.
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>>43341087
Getting additional attacks with more Hand slots is when you're using weapons rather than Martial Arts. I don't roll that way myself, so it's been years since I looked into it, but I think you can get up to four attacks per weapon; again, based on how much extra attack enchant power you have.
Anyway, tf you want to try it out, be sure to turn on the Custom-GX's "(Custom-G)" gameplay tweaks to revert Ano's bizarre, arbitrary nerfs. Definitely "Disable chain attacks", and probably "Apply skill buffs" and "Apply damage calculation buffs".
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>>43338400
Which Elin? I got the alpha 9.10
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Does anyone have a link for the discord? I hate to use it but I guess it's better than nothing since there's no more threads.
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>>43343198
Why not just make a thread yourself when you need it?
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>>43325921
Who are you quoting?
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>>43341083
Having played a wizard years ago in vanilla is probably distorting my view. Casting always seems like a coin flip unless I have 100% cast rate.

As for my pet, it's the starter little girl. For some reason she has 50 DV if I take away all of her equipment. >>43340897 Effective evasion skill should be 26 based on information about enchantment magnitude from the wiki.
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>>43345613
Vanilla has much steeper cast chance penalties for dual wielding and using a shield, 20 vs 5% in plus. By making pets warmages you can get them 100% cast chance regardless of equipment weight.

Little girls are rorans, I don't remember their dvmod offhand.
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>>43344615
People keep saying the thread dies after a day. That's why.
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>>43347539
This thread was created in March you absolute baka
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>>43346309
Thank you kindly anon.
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>>43074635 (OP)
All Elonafags have moved on to the much superior Mabinogi. Why? Because it's the same shit except you can't cheat like the little bitch you know you are

Plus I also think that Era games have stolen its outdated asses thunder
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>>43344909
Noone.
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The full game better let me take up on his offer for pancakes
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Guess we're getting a flying casino
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>>43356017
Looks better than the joints at Palmia or Derphy.
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>>43358670
This one better have more games than just blackjack
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>>43347714
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>>43341369
That's fine if your willing to drop a link.
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>>43364362
Here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BXxcK0t1zkJFn-5mVaX93OabUFJKrVnO/view
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>milk tea
It adds nothing but I still want it.
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Kickstarter opens tomorrow, Anon.

How much will you be giving Noa-San?
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>>43370024
Why is he doing a kickstarter anyways?
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>>43348185
Mabinogi? Do you mean that shitty Nexon Korea slop mmo? Is there a different Mabinogi?
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>>43370024
Depends on what the tiers are.
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Well this popped up
https://youtu.be/gFofs3XcnUU [Embed]
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>>43372727
>you're a hopeless freak aren't you snaily?
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>>43372817
why is he so racist towards us?
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>>43372961
The 's' in "snail" stands for "suffering".
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I'm excited.
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Haven't played Elona in like 3-4 years and feel like starting a new run after finding out about Elin. Is the old Necro guide still viable for the current version of Plus?
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>>43074635 (OP)
I finally got off my lazy ass and updated the Younger Sister Pack for version Custom-GX 2.15R. I also just found out the most recent version of Custom is 2.17. God damn it.
https://mega.nz/file/ZAp3BYgA#oXztJIzndUogS4EgmIN15SyG42dKMOIE5dIMVAl8wDM
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>>43376077
Use undead fusion when needed, all the gods are better than dead-eyes. Consider keeping some of the weaker normal undead out at all times so you can fuse gods quickly.

>>43377683
Are you the original creator of the pack?
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>>43376077
>>43378215
Also, you don't need to remodel every lich and dragon with eyes anymore since they already come with Control Magic.
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>>43378215
>Are you the original creator of the pack?
Yeah. I took a break from Elona+ a while back because I just wasn't finding that many new sprites to shove into the spritepack and I wasn't very good at actually drawing (at the time). I saw the new Elin trailer and felt a strong need to get back into Elona. If there's any I missed, do let me know.
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>>43081547
IM JUST PLAYING CDDA AND POSTING ON /RLG/ SOMETIMES. GOT WAY TOO BURNT OUT ON ELONA+ AFTER SPENDING 1.5K HOURS IN IT. I'LL COME BACK IN THESE THREADS ONCE THAT EBIN COMES OUT
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>>43378225
Since when?
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>>43378505
It has been at least 6 years. I applaud your dedication.

>>43378658
Some version after 1.73.