Mon May 1 22:35:01 UTC 2023

g/93021749.txt

@@ -898,3 +898,101 @@ A decent amount of old Maclisp code still works unmodified in Common Lisp.
 The reasoin Scheme "makes CLers seethe so much" is because they keep misrepresenting history, claiming that Scheme is what Lisp originally was all along when this was never true. It's not even just Maclisp, when you look at other older dialects such as Interlisp, Le Lisp or even LISP 1.5, it becomes even more apparent.
 
 Personally, I have no problem with Scheme, but it is clearly a different language and should be recognized as such.
+--- 93148359
+neato desu
+https://github.com/engstrand-config/dwl-guile
+--- 93148376
+>>93146626
+Of course, scheme isn't part of the standard lineage of lisps from lisp 1.0 to common lisp. No one's saying it is.
+Scheme is a lisp, because it has the most fundamental features of lisps. The history is irrelevant as lisp refers to a family of languages, not one specific language or lineage of languages.
+--- 93148675
+Was Lisp invented or discovered?
+--- 93150447
+>>93148675
+Discovered
+Lisp is a lost ancient ayylmao technology
+--- 93150608
+I'm gonna do it bros, I'm gonna install guix
+--- 93151104
+>>93041541
+What font is this?
+--- 93151130
+>>93148675
+Salomon saith, There is no new thing upon the earth. So that as Plato had an imagination, that all knowledge was but remembrance; so Salomon giveth his sentence, that all novelty is but oblivion
+--- 93151151
+>>93150608
+the package downloads are sooooooo sloooooooooowww
+--- 93151214
+I just finished the last step of Make a Lisp and my implementation is only 20% slower than the reference C++ one, does this mean Im a good programmer
+--- 93151255
+>>93151130
+I didn't understand a thing :DDD
+--- 93151952
+>>93148675
+>Was Lisp invented or discovered?
+I like the way you think.
+--- 93152224
+LAMP but with common lisp
+--- 93152412
+>>93152224
+>https://github.com/mbattyani/mod_lisp
+>last commit 9 years ago
+nevermind
+--- 93152475
+opinions on pic related?
+--- 93154336
+guix is intolerably slow, anything involving package management takes literally a hundred times longer than any other distro
+--- 93155004
+>>93154336
+yeah but guix packs are a killer feature for me so i tolerate it
+--- 93156475
+>>93154336
+guix shell takes less time than apt installing something and then uninstalling it
+you shoudn't have to manage your packages too often anyways
+--- 93156520
+redpill me on your scheme implementation of choice
+--- 93156556
+>>93156520
+SBCL just works
+--- 93156633
+Does anyone know what the official guix position is on allowing multiple versions of a package in their repo? I see some tools have multiple versions, whereas most only have one version or the latest version. I would like to use guix for work, but I'm in a highly regulated space and need to be able to guarantee exact versions of tools I use indefinitely. If I submit packages for older versions of a tool, will the guix maintainers accept it?
+--- 93156779
+>>93156633
+I think they keep old versions if other programs depend on them.
+You can always use guix time-machine/inferiors/or just making your own channel
+--- 93156807
+>>93156633
+>I'm in a highly regulated space and need to be able to guarantee exact versions of tools I use indefinitely
+that's why nix/guix are a big deal, because you CAN do that.
+--- 93156810
+>>93102784
+You can remap ctrl/cap with Powertoys.
+--- 93156924
+>>93137953
+Evil-mode. 
+
+>>93138039
+Emacs keybindings are only useful for fixing a broken config with -Q. Truly the worst part of Emacs.
+--- 93156993
+>>93156779
+>>93156807
+How do I set up my own channel? Will it automatically pull from the Software Heritage repos if a source GitHub or whatever goes down, just like how the main guix channel works?
+--- 93157046
+>>93156993
+>Will it automatically pull from the Software Heritage repos if a source GitHub or whatever goes down, just like how the main guix channel works?
+I don't know about that. It's not 100% necessary to set up a channel either, you can do it the old way and just have a directory with your scm files that contain your package definitions. then, you point $GUIX_PROFILE to it.
+--- 93157083
+>>93157046
+actually no, it's GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH
+--- 93157109
+>>93156993
+>How do I set up my own channel? 
+https://guix.gnu.org/en/manual/devel/en/html_node/Creating-a-Channel.html
+It's basically just a git repo with a Guile module containing packages/services.
+>Will it automatically pull from the Software Heritage repos if a source GitHub or whatever goes down, just like how the main guix channel works?
+Yes. 
+>>93157046
+easier to just put them in a manifest or (include) the file if you're doing that
+--- 93157364
+>>93157109
+So could I fork the main guix channel, add my packages to the fork, and then just merge from upstream into my fork every so often?

g/93055052.txt

@@ -670,3 +670,86 @@ It's fine for me either way since I only need a clip as a rollstop and to clip i
 bump
 --- 93146175
 First time finding this thread. What do you all think of my parker 75 with space pen cartridge?
+--- 93147237
+>>93140659
+Why would anyone throw away a potential heirloom for disposable trash that may not write in a few days?
+>>93140600
+Mix a tiny drop of liquid dishwasher soap into warm water then gently polish it with a non-abrasive rag.
+--- 93147264
+>>93146175
+That's really cool. Classic outside with high-tech inside.
+--- 93147266
+>>93146175
+looks nice
+--- 93148330
+>>93147237
+>potential heirloom
+it's just a pen lol
+--- 93148415
+I like the precise v5 rt more than any fountain pen at any price point for writing.
+--- 93148639
+>>93147237
+>Mix a tiny drop of liquid dishwasher soap into warm water then gently polish it with a non-abrasive rag.
+Thanks.
+--- 93148696
+>>93146175
+lush
+--- 93150548
+>page 10
+--- 93150653
+>>93148330
+>human food
+It's just food lol
+--- 93150881
+>>93132272
+It's saying that, despite the Marxists claiming to love freedom and seek the liberation of the entire human race, all they have done, in action, is enslave mankind wherever they can.
+Marxists want to free humanity from being subject to divine law and fate, but then subject it to historical law and fate: Marxists believe they have history (which includes the future) completely figured out. That if humanity obeys and subjects itself to Marxist law, without any form of opposition or rebelious action (and all rebellions have 'freedom' as their origin), then absolute freedom will be had, and the irony of such a prospect.
+--- 93152119
+>>93148415
+based V5 RT
+--- 93152965
+general tips on improving shitty handwriting that aren't just "practice bro lmao" aka tips on how to hold a pen(cil), what type of paper to use, bad habits to get rid of?
+--- 93153079
+>>93152965
+unironically the first chapter of drawabox.com will help you do anything that involves precise mark making with a pen
+--- 93153384
+>>93153079
+thanks, didn't know that was a thing, will check it out
+--- 93154751
+are there really this many autists on /g/ who care about the pen they use?
+--- 93155276
+>>93154751
+what pen you use unironically makes more of a difference than what text editor or linux distro you use, and yet people debate about shit like that all the time
+--- 93155575
+>>93148330
+I don't think you quite understand.
+I'm still using fountain pens that my grandparents used. That makes it not just a pen, but an heirloom.
+--- 93155691
+>>93150881
+>It's saying that, despite the Marxists claiming to love freedom and seek the liberation of the entire human race, all they have done, in action, is enslave mankind wherever they can.
+I don't know if it's saying that, but history has proven time and time again that this is 100% true.
+I was actually wondering what the quote was from... or if it's original text.
+I'm having hard time reading some of the cursive, but it's asthetic.
+--- 93155740
+>>93152965
+The secret to good handwriting is caring for your handwriting, take pride in it.
+Use the tripod grip. Don't press too hard or grip too hard.
+Unfortunately no high quality pen or paper will fix unloved writing.
+--- 93155759
+>>93155276
+I agree with you on pens, but text editors and distributions can really make a big difference.
+--- 93155766
+>>93152965
+Get grid paper and try to make your words line up consistently
+--- 93155778
+>>93155276
+No, pens are more like which keyboard
+--- 93156274
+Cool little article on the Pentel Sharp:
+http://davesmechanicalpencils.blogspot.com/2006/05/pentel-sharp-p205-mechanical-pencil.html
+--- 93157053
+>>93155759
+>text editors
+sure
+>distributions
+not if you know what you're doing

g/93102254.txt

@@ -589,3 +589,70 @@ Reminder, there is no privacy when you use any of the tech companies.
 There are more than 10,000 people at the feds that has the backdoor access to all the tech companies' database. The privacy policy on websites are meaningless false sense of security.
 --- 93146320
 bump
+--- 93147288
+>>93143613
+I totally agree with you. Channels and forums will discuss privacy but still use YouTube or Twitter.
+--- 93147397
+https://dnyuz.com/2023/05/01/the-godfather-of-a-i-leaves-google-and-warns-of-danger-ahead/
+--- 93148673
+>>93131472
+Quad9. NextDNS isn't governed by any privacy law, and doesn't have as many locations or as many threat-intel sources.
+--- 93149318
+search engine, from Google to: searx, startpage, qwant or smt else, what you guys use and why, thx
+--- 93149462
+bogdanoff says bumpitt
+--- 93150528
+>>93149318
+qwant is a honeypot
+--- 93151225
+>>93150528
+what do you reccomend, searx seems to me the best one
+--- 93151334
+also, how bad it is to use google search engine through a browser like Bromite, Mull, Mulch etc
+--- 93151539
+>>93151334
+using Google search in those browsers will be less bad due to their privacy protections and lack of Google service integration, but it's better to sidestep the Google issue and use something like Whoogle or Searx instance that primarily uses Google results.
+--- 93151747
+BUT I KNOW A HERO WILL COME
+(seriously, what happened to ZeroNet?)
+--- 93152102
+>>93151225
+Brave Search
+--- 93152251
+>>93151539
+thx, so how much can google really see using their engine through those browser, ip, search history, querys and thats it
+or there is more
+what about device information, can they read
+--- 93152279
+>>93152102
+werent the Brave browser mining bitcoins without the user knowing, i dont trust them, they are like Northvpn type stuff
+--- 93153119
+>>93152279
+>werent the Brave browser mining bitcoins without the user knowing
+no, that's bullshit
+--- 93153693
+How does /psg/ cope with this fact? Secret police and deep state are necessary evils to contend with the competitive meta of fifth generation warfare. China will become the top 1 economic powerhouse in our lifetime, with whatever the full power of AI is, with their tech savvy conscripts, and with none of the democratic bureaucracy sandbagging the rest of the world. Shouldn't you smart fellas and fart smellas lend your strength to your local cryptocracy?
+--- 93154008
+>>93153693
+>government director says they're outnumbered
+that's a meaningless statement, they're just posturing to get more money, has nothing to do with what is actually happening in reality
+--- 93154189
+1) To end the debate on whether or not TrueCrypt 7.1a or the latest Veracrypt is most trueworthy, why not just create one container in one and then create a larger container to hold that one in the other using different passwords?
+
+2) If you save your hypno sissy porn or whatever into a *crypt container then lock it back up when you're done, would you have to bother zeroing your empty space to get rid of any chance of file recovery anymore with BleachBit? Obviously you'd still have to delete thumbs.db, etc data
+--- 93154344
+>>93143203
+Searching "eval(" gave me nothing but searching "eval" (without the "(" did) but I assume that is normal.
+Anyways here are some files malwarebytes found and quarantined on its first scan (before running tronscript).
+--- 93154852
+Does anyone actually use qubes or no? If so, how is the experience.
+--- 93155960
+Ik this probably belongs in /twg/, but I figure people here know better. What jobs are there in cryptography besides professor and cryptographic software engineer? Surely there must be more, but I can't find anything
+--- 93156240
+If discord and matrix are sus (the latter still questionable) why are things like jami not popular? On this site at least. 
+I know people tried using tox around 8 years ago.
+--- 93156277
+>>93155960
+Researcher? There's protocol design, primitive design, cryptanalysis, improving upon existing schemes. Then within each of these you have a mix of symmetric/asymmetric, lattice/isogeny/code/pairing/...-based schemes. And it branches again depending on the applications: signature, group signature (MLS for instance), delegated signature, ...
+It's very large and the applications are numerous so it connects people from the theoretical side to those on the more concrete side. 
+There are also private compagnies specialized in specific areas like safe computation or FHE.

g/93104376.txt

@@ -487,3 +487,141 @@ Drew made wayland good actually. He standardised it with wlroots
 t. fragile white man
 --- 93146463
 Bump
+--- 93148081
+Hop
+--- 93148961
+>>93143383
+He is the creator of wlroots and sway.
+
+wlroots is the basis of most TWM in Wayland
+--- 93149100
+>>93107409
+He was never based
+He was always a fanatical Wayland shill, even when it was clearly a failed project
+He had a short-lived redemption arc when he started hating on Rust
+But now he's back to being a cuck
+--- 93149144
+Some drama tranny killed himself it seems
+--- 93149209
+>>93129910
+Because Rust is a huge, complicated language like C++
+It has an unreadable atrocious syntax, it has too many unnecessary features
+It's too difficult to implement - there are only a handful of C++ implementations up to spec (with each having major vendor lockin), and only ONE Rust implementation, with vendor lockin to LLVM
+The compile times are awful
+That's why C++ never replaced C, and that's also why Rust will also fail to replace C.
+Maybe if someone made a "Rust--" language, it could replace C.
+--- 93149237
+>>93149100
+Retard. Drew was never a fanatical wayland cuck, in fact he made changes which made wayland work at all!
+Out of all wayland contributors, Drew is probably the most generous one in terms of features that are needed
+--- 93149397
+>>93149144
+This is a terrible loss for the open source community.
+--- 93149514
+>>93149237
+He definitely is a fanatical Wayland cuck
+The deficiencies that his library makes up for should be part of the protocol. It's testament to the fact the protocol itself is opinionated and designed poorly.
+You can see his cuckoldry in action here: 
+https://drewdevault.com/2019/02/10/Wayland-misconceptions-debunked.html
+https://drewdevault.com/2021/02/02/Anti-Wayland-horseshit.html
+He had to go on full damage control when the based MPV maintainers called Wayland out.
+Drew has this autistic delusion that his library would be the flagship Wayland implementation, but he is too autistic to understand the politics of free software and that he cannot compete with or convince GNOME developers.
+--- 93149588
+>>93149514
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuRXHJu5Kmg [Embed]
+Literally the first comment:
+>Thanks for making Wayland usable.
+If it wasn't for Drew, each desktop environment would have their own wayland implementation. Wlroots fixes this.
+--- 93150493
+bumphop
+--- 93151364
+FUCKIN BUMP
+--- 93151750
+>>93151364
+Don't bump hare threads. Hop them
+--- 93152081
+>>93149588
+Even new implementations like Smithay are just a port of wlroots to rust.
+--- 93152397
+>>93152081
+This.
+--- 93152490
+>>93149397
+Said no one ever
+--- 93152593
+>>93107483
+well, he IS
+> Drew is the founder and CEO of Sourcehut and one of its senior engineers. He is also the original author and maintainer of the wlroots and sway projects, a frequent contributor to Alpine Linux, and an expert in C, Go, and web technologies, as well as graphics, compilers, language design, and operations and integration. Drew also has extensive writing experience, including tech & end-user docs, and is an expert software architect.
+--- 93153286
+>>93152490
+I just said it now. And many people are saying it
+--- 93153581
+>>93153286
+Literally not a single person will be impacted by Drew ceasing to publish code. He has not done a single thing of significance.
+--- 93153922
+>>93153581
+consider wlroots, sourcehut, hare
+Ares OS will also be delayed
+--- 93153952
+Hare is the official programming language of /c/ and /u/
+--- 93153997
+I hope this basednigger offs himself
+--- 93154024
+>>93153922
+Thanks for proving him right
+--- 93154046
+>>93153997
+He is based, but he is NOT a nigger. How about you off yourself instead?
+--- 93154433
+hop hop hop!
+--- 93154847
+>>93153997
+I rather you offing yourself. Even if marginal his contribution to humanity is greater than yours
+--- 93154880
+>>93154024
+Helios (and possibly Ares) will be the next big thing in technology in about 3 years. You can screencap this post and yours
+--- 93154894
+>>93154880
+Agree with this. They hated him because he told the truth
+--- 93155391
+hop
+--- 93156458
+>yet another C killer
+wow i'm sure this isn't a stillborn waste of time
+--- 93156667
+>>93156458
+> stillborn
+You don't know how wrong you are
+--- 93156668
+>>93151364
+why tho?
+--- 93156759
+>>93156668
+It's Drew. He likes changing his IP to samefag and bump his own threads.
+Technically you can do the same to sage bomb a thread (as long as it's not being babysat by a mod or tranny who can disable sages). I'm not sure why more people don't do that.
+--- 93156906
+>>93149144
+This fag is you people’s idol? This melodramatic whiney baby? Lmaooo
+--- 93157122
+ok serious question, anyone in these threads actually good at C? i feel like once i'd been doing C for a few years (embedded dev) it feels like the language is genuinely extremely good for what it does
+
+it's not perfect but it's way up there in the land of diminishing returns that there's essentially zero chance of another lang coming along that i'd reach for over C, i'd use rust over C++ any day of the week but C is genuinely great and i almost never have any issues with the language itself
+
+also drew devult is an insufferable tool personality wise
+--- 93157160
+>>93152593
+According to Drew DeVault merits do not matter. People in leadership should be chosen based on their skin color instead. >>93104981
+--- 93157211
+>>93138240
+Even on MPV?
+--- 93157247
+>>93157211
+mpv is not quality software
+--- 93157331
+>>93157122
+>it's not perfect but it's way up there in the land of diminishing returns that there's essentially zero chance of another lang coming along that i'd reach for over C
+C is clearly on its way out, whenever you like it or not, unless they do something groundbreaking. It will not disappear in the next 10 years but it will just be extremely niche legacy stuff
+Just to be clear it still is worth to learn it 
+
+The most likely scenario is that rust will take a big piece of the C use case for new projects and another not yet mainstream language will take the remaining market or maybe the other way around, depending how good the new language will be 
+To this day the new language will probably be zig, but hare is extremely better suited to replace C language wise so we will see depending how the hare development will proceed

g/93105610.txt

@@ -1046,3 +1046,316 @@ how does hydration happen? is it just the concept of of where the javascript cod
 --- 93146709
 >>93143772
 im thinking about leaving node and typescript for php but im not sure
+--- 93146869
+>>93142561
+>portfolio with youtube video's projects
+this
+trust me bro
+--- 93146871
+>>93143772
+honestly node/ts is better but laravel is cool though
+--- 93147026
+>>93146871
+i've been seeing lots of phpfags from collage get back end jobs while im still NEETing in my coom shed. i've never felt this depressed since i found out that assembly was a waste of time even tho i liked it
+--- 93147164
+>>93147026
+I hope it's as easy for self-taught fags to get php jobs lol. Only reason I'm learning this garbage
+--- 93147244
+>>93146709
+Personally I would only do that if there was a good PHP job on offer.
+--- 93147404
+I got a job as a junior dev in the finance/invoice sector.
+
+The backend is being rewritten into JS due to the software we use can NOT accept any other language unless injected.
+
+I use the latest node.js, want to get into JSDoc and started to learn computer science in my free time with OSSU.
+
+Anything else you can suggest for me to look into?
+--- 93147706
+>>93147404
+>The backend is being rewritten into JS due to the software we use can NOT accept any other language unless injected.
+What sort of software would limit how you write your backend? Interesting.
+--- 93148127
+>>93147706
+the invoice software is contained within the company.
+while it is written in c#, it is also proprietary sotware, 
+so we can not adapt it to our needs by forking it.
+
+I don't get it 100%.
+I just realized we are writing wrapper libraries to translate the database queries into whatever the finance software wants and vice versa to our specific requirements.
+VBA, excel, whatever is being rewritten into vanilla javascript to make this work.
+So we can only use Javascript to make it work and I fear it's also not the latest LTS that is featured.
+
+Whatever, it's my foot into the sector and I will ffinally have the money to ergomaxx my hobby and transfer the ergonomics into the workplace to follow my dreams without too much pain
+--- 93148759
+any idea of how this is being implemented? I could use this kind if behavior right about now
+--- 93148865
+is setting `visibility: hidden;` the best way to hide content from screen readers and keyboard navigation when the content isn't supposed to be visible?
+--- 93149001
+>>93148865
+legit don't know, but this seems interesting:
+https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/ARIA/Attributes/aria-hidden
+--- 93149129
+Is the ruby path of TOP still better than the js one?
+--- 93149412
+>>93149129
+yes
+--- 93149432
+>>93149129
+no
+--- 93149664
+>>93149129
+maybe
+--- 93149750
+>>93149412
+>>93149432
+>>93149664
+not funny, faggots
+--- 93150210
+>>93149001
+I put aria-hidden on everything. Fuck blind people.
+--- 93150227
+>>93149129
+prefer not to say
+--- 93150321
+>>93149750
+Keep crying like the faggot you are, faggot
+--- 93150365
+>>93150321
+>i'm so shit at web dev that I feel threatened by literal pre-juniors starting TOP
+thank god I'm not you
+last (You) fag
+--- 93150369
+My dumb ass UX designers want a debounce on a search input so that once a user stops typing, it submits a search request to our API. How would you implement it so that the debounce wasn't too short but also not too long?
+--- 93150405
+>>93150365
+>he thinks i'm threatened because i said "maybe"
+Keep swallowing cock like the faggot you are, faggot
+--- 93150443
+>>93149129
+depends on the job offers in your area, ruby is pretty much abandonware at this point, that doesn't stop some companies from keeping running it, but I believe they usually seek seniors for that task
+long story short: check the market and offers in your area and decide accordingly
+--- 93150503
+>>93125672
+no, not a decorator. instead of making the class implement the interface, just let the class own a copy of the data. if you need to get at the underlying data, just do instance.getData or something.
+--- 93150619
+Would I want to shoot myself if I got an ASP.NET job? Or is it okay to work with?
+--- 93150761
+>>93150619
+Why does it have to be entirely ASP.NET? I'd rather work with a modern web framework with a .NET backend.
+--- 93150900
+>>93150443
+>job offers
+people wanting a job wouldn't be doing top in the first place
+--- 93150932
+>>93150761
+Yeah sure .NET in general, I see jobs where they use that, do you reckon it would be alright? I have used .NET a bit before and it seems okay I guess. Hope I wouldn't contract Microsoft sickness though.
+--- 93150941
+What do you guys think about learning Angular to get a job? I already know how to program in Javascript, C/C++ and know algorithms and DS but I have never tried to get a job in programming because it was mostly a hobby for me.
+--- 93151394
+>>93150941
+> angular
+why?
+--- 93151480
+>>93150900
+Why is that?
+--- 93151921
+>>93150932
+Depends. .NET Framework would be terrible. Especially if you were working with razor views. .NET 6+ with Blazor might be tolerable. If you don't need .NET from frontend, then yeah, .NET is great.
+--- 93152084
+I couldn't solve this problem because I have no idea what I pre-requisites to create deeper nested <ul>'s after the first loop.
+
+Is there any way to solve this without recursion? I can't rack up a solution after the first iteration as I only ended up with:
+- Fish
+- Tree
+
+let data = {
+    Fish: {
+        trout: {},
+        salmon: {},
+    },
+
+    Tree: {
+        Huge: {
+            sequoia: {},
+            oak: {},
+        },
+        Flowering: {
+            "apple tree": {},
+            magnolia: {},
+        },
+    },
+};
+
+let container = document.getElementById("container");
+
+function createTree(container, data) {
+    for (let key in data) {
+        if (Object.keys(data).length !== 0) {
+            let ul = document.createElement("ul");
+            let li = document.createElement("li");
+            li.innerHTML = key;
+            ul.append(li);
+            container.append(ul);
+        }
+    }
+}
+
+createTree(container, data);
+
+
+
+Link to the problem: https://javascript.info/task/create-object-tree
+>easy way to walk this object is through recursion
+this kinda implies that I can solve it without recursion, but is it even possible
+--- 93152619
+>>93105610 (OP)
+Used some vite extension that turns your whole project into one index.html file. This was the output lmao. I know that's what it does still hilarious
+--- 93152746
+>>93152084
+All recursive functions can be rewritten as for loops
+--- 93152852
+>>93152619
+reminds me of some /wdg/ meem, heheh
+--- 93152917
+>>93152619
+>>93152852
+this.not.is.meme.this.is.reality.hit.floor.hard
+--- 93153534
+So does learning to front web dev means learning a bunch of useless frameworks that are all gonna be obsolete the second you switch a job since theres 1000 ways of doing the same shit and every company has a different stack? This shit seems pretty miserable
+--- 93153541
+Do any of you have side hustles/side businesses to make money?
+--- 93153843
+What skills do I need in order to become a good front-end developer?
+--- 93154390
+>>93153843
+low to no self-respect
+low iq
+trans (or at least a woman)
+--- 93154408
+>>93154390
+Huh? what
+--- 93154444
+>>93154408
+The skills which you need in order to be good at front-end
+--- 93154481
+>>93154444
+Sigh... alright, what do I need to become a GREAT front-end developer?
+--- 93154532
+>>93154481
+that's difficult... but I guess you need to get rid off all logical thinking, too.
+--- 93154597
+>>93154408
+His mind has been addled by a chronic 4chan addiction
+
+He just loves thinking about transvestites, it seems
+--- 93154623
+>>93154597
+Now you're projecting, bruh
+--- 93154683
+>>93154623
+No I'm not. If you love thinking about transvestites that's up to you but I don't know why you're bringing it up on the technology board.
+--- 93154764
+>>93154683
+second, it's amazing how much shitting up a thread can a single faggot do, shame
+--- 93154832
+>>93152084
+Recursion is simple and easiest.
+
+function createTree(container, data) {
+  
+  // create parent node <ul>
+
+  // loop through keys
+  // add <li> for each key
+
+  // recursion
+  createTree(parentNode, childrenData);
+
+  // append to the container as html
+  
+}
+
+createTree(container, data);
+
+
+According to ChatGPT without recursion it would look like:
+
+function createTree(container, data) {
+  const stack = [{ parent: container, children: data }];
+  
+  while (stack.length > 0) {
+    const { parent, children } = stack.pop();
+
+    const ulNode = document.createElement('ul');
+    parent.appendChild(ulNode);
+
+    for (const [key, value] of Object.entries(children)) {
+      const liNode = document.createElement('li');
+      liNode.innerText = key;
+      ulNode.appendChild(liNode);
+
+      if (typeof value === 'object' && value !== null) {
+        stack.push({ parent: liNode, children: value });
+      }
+    }
+  }
+}
+
+createTree(container, data);
+
+
+Which is conceptually much harder than recursion.
+--- 93155190
+Vercel is becoming the flagship of web development
+--- 93155678
+My guys are Solid.js
+--- 93156008
+>Yjs was already imported
+
+I fixed this issue with the facebook lexical editor a while ago, now I have ti again and I'm stick.
+
+I'm not looking for help, just fml, 
+
+any rich text editor recommendations?
+--- 93156100
+>>93146064
+it's more intuitive
+--- 93156241
+>>93155678
+Unexpected Mikepost
+
+>>93156100
+In what ways? Maybe I need to read the docs more
+--- 93156258
+>>93155678
+--- 93156862
+>>93138678
+Well I've used socket.io a lot, I actually love it haha. I've just never used it in conjunction with routes in express. this is my first very large project, expecting it to be over 1000 hours of work, and over 10000 lines of code lol
+--- 93156914
+any passive income project ideas? I'm full stacked dev, but don't really know what to do atm in my free time.
+--- 93156978
+>>93156914
+>full stacked
+himbo developers ww@
+--- 93157106
+Wew, and I was just talking about Neon releasing 2 weeks ago, and Vercel already has done a first party integration with them.
+
+https://vercel.com/blog/vercel-storage
+--- 93157215
+>>93156914
+my recommendation:
+>buy some kneepads
+>download and install grindr, make an account
+>hang out in gay hotspots in your area
+>suck and fuck anyone that's willing to pay either through grindr or irl
+
+you can earn a killing if you play your cards right
+--- 93157289
+>>93156862
+You ever used ws?
+
+https://github.com/websockets/ws
+--- 93157361
+>>93156862
+If it's going to be really perf crucial, I wouldn't be using express or socket.io. there's better package options for node.js (such as Fastify + regular websockets). Otherwise Go is an option too.

g/93110776.txt

@@ -676,3 +676,310 @@ Use SFP-10G-SR fiber modules or quit bitching about the price
 --- 93146072
 >>93141519
 lmao I use windows on my main pc its just shit for home servers not my fault you get filtered by linux
+--- 93146849
+I'm trying to set TrueNAS Scale up with Windows clients using SMB sharing and I feel like I'm going crazy.
+
+I have two datasets I'm sharing.
+>Sharing
+>Private
+I have configured the "Sharing" ACL to give access to a couple users on my network.
+I have configured the "Private" ACL to only give access to a select few.
+When I browse the network on a PC with permissions to read/write to both, I see and can access both.
+When I browse the network on a PC with permission to read/write to only Sharing, it still sees Private, but can't access it.
+
+Is there any way to hide shares from clients that don't have permission?
+--- 93147656
+>>93145821
+fibre is cheaper than RJ45 for 10G
+--- 93147935
+talk me out of self-hosting, as a software-engineer with a job and a life how much will I lose of my time by self hosting?
+--- 93147988
+>>93136611
+Lads? I don't want to use Windows.
+--- 93148473
+>>93147935
+if you have money u can't stand seeing sit in your bank account it's really neat to actually own stuff. 
+since you said you're a software engineer you probably won't be as retarded or poor as the rest of the fags here. your stuff should just werk.
+--- 93148492
+>>93136611
+>>93147988
+debian...
+--- 93148506
+>>93136611
+Try each in a VM to see what you like. I'm used to Ubuntu personally.
+--- 93149192
+>>93136611
+>Jellyfin and Spotify replacement with filesharing. Possibly plex.
+can you clarify this part here? i dont understand what exactly is it youre doing.
+--- 93149309
+Is something like an old workstation machine with a xeon 26xx worth considering as a nas/basic home server or is it just going to be more expensive power consumption wise to the point that I should just build something new for a few hundred more?
+--- 93149405
+>>93149309
+Is it from 2012? Probably not a good idea. There's a sweet spot buying used enterprise hardware and 10 years is a bit old. Look for 6 or so years at the most. Fortunately even things 10 years old have virtualization features.
+--- 93149599
+>>93149309
+idk look at the watts difference, in hardware and use a calculator to see how long it will take to pay for itself in savings. 50w difference for me is like $3 a month so i just run my old shit
+
+https://www.omnicalculator.com/everyday-life/appliance-wattage
+--- 93149758
+>>93143303
+I'm thinking of buying them from spd
+Supposedly brand new for 129 kinda sus
+>>93145721
+https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/data-center-drives/ultrastar-dc-hc500-series/data-sheet-ultrastar-dc-hc530.pdf
+
+CMR
+--- 93149869
+>>93149758
+>CMR
+Oh shit well I must have been confused with another model...
+go for it and report back!
+--- 93149873
+>>93149405
+Yeah, age is a bit concerning. I can definitely looks for something newer.
+>>93149599
+TDP on the cpu is about double depending on model but I guess the question is does that that actually mean that total system power is significantly higher on average or is it going to be only noticeable when I'm doing more than just serving files? I haven't built a machine like this before, just a few gaming pcs. As of now all it'll really do is store media and other files that don't need to be on my main tower with a bit more redundancy.
+--- 93150119
+Why does the TrueNAS community act like it's a sin to install TrueNAS on anything other than server-grade hardware? If you aren't using a fully-featured supermicro motherboard with some Xeon CPU, 64gb registered ECC ram, 5+ mirrored vdevs, triple-mirror special vdev, optane 900p SLOG, and a 10Gbe network setup with a $1000+ switch, they will say you're doing it wrong. They will also get mad if you use terminology like "1+1 mirror", "zpool" and "Gb/s", and sperg out if you use SSDs without visible PLP or create a raidz1 pool with drives larger than 2TB.
+--- 93150184
+>>93150119
+YOU JUST CAN'T, OK?
+--- 93150207
+>>93149873
+isn't the TDP an upper limit, e.g., a 145W TDP CPU will consume 145W when it's running at 100%? but there seems to be some unspecified lower limit, e.g., it'll always consume say 50W regardless of load
+--- 93150815
+>>93150207
+In most cases TDP = max, but some CPUs will consume more under 100% load. Also older means higher idle most of the time.
+--- 93150842
+>>93150119
+They want to market it it to small enterprises so they can actually make money from it.
+--- 93151245
+>>93110776 (OP)
+My current home server is a QNAP NAS that I setup over 10 years ago. Right now it is in Raid 6 with four 4tb drives so I have about 8TB in storage space. I still have 4 empty bays that would add 4tb per drive but I just haven't needed it yet as streaming options became better I found myself using it less and less. However the streaming services are getting progressively shitty and since half the stuff I downloaded is 720p I've started torrenting movies and TV shows again and will probably need to add some drives soon. The NAS was getting firmware updates but the recent one earlier this year said it would be the last. Anybody else using QNAP NAS?
+--- 93151328
+>>93151245
+>Anybody else using QNAP NAS?
+no
+--- 93152016
+does anyone know how to make a docker compose file to install some shit from github in a contrainer? i want to install this https://github.com/JohnDoee/autotorrent2
+
+in a docker on unraid but i cant figure out how to make the file
+--- 93152039
+>>93150815
+ah, makes sense. but re: buying old enterprise hardware, does this even make a difference?
+
+https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/2779vs2009/Intel-Xeon-E5-2680-v4-vs-Intel-Xeon-E5-2697-v2
+
+assuming 24/7 operation at 10% TDP. seems kinda irrelevant to use the top CPU of 2013 vs a decent CPU of 2016, especially since iLO can cap the total system power usage at an arbitrary wattage
+--- 93152089
+>>93151245
+>Right now it is in Raid 6 with four 4tb drives so I have about 8TB in storage space
+>Raid 6
+>not Raid10
+--- 93152162
+>>93152089
+its the exact same amount of redundancy
+--- 93152222
+>>93152162
+And far worse performance. Good job.
+--- 93152306
+>>93152162
+wait a minute, im fucking retarded. it is NOT the same amount of redundancy. raid10 can fail with two drive failures.
+--- 93152382
+>>93112358
+the number of reddit posters showing off a media cabinet with non rack modem, wap, nas, a keystone patch panel and about 5k worth of ubiquity 'smart' switches really disturbs me.
+--- 93153171
+>>93152306
+raid6 is two drive failure too. But it can be any two drives while raid10 is one drive per mirrored pair.
+--- 93153189
+>>93152089
+>raid10
+max utilization is 50% with raid10. While I am currently at that in raid6 with 4 drives that ratio gets better as I add more drives to raid6. Plus raid6 can handle two drive failures simultaneously while depending on what drives they are raid10 cannot.
+--- 93153724
+>>93152039
+Those xeons idle at 40-50W.
+Generally you want to buy the newest used enterprise gear at good price.
+As you noticed the older you go the more power hungry and less efficient they are.
+--- 93153942
+how often do you change port numbers?
+--- 93154131
+>>93153724
+i'm not disagreeing, just noting than going from proliant gen8 to gen9 seems kinda pointless from an efficiency standpoint. the main benefit would be uefi boot and faster ram, but a gen8 power-capped to toaster mode is already way more compute than i really need
+
+buying gen10 would be ideal but expensive. the chassis alone goes for at least $750, then there's a cpu and ram, which both get more expensive the more recent they are
+
+i already have everything for two fully-maxed servers at the gen8 level (one is a proliant, the other is a supermicro mobo that accepts the same cpu/rdimms). in this case my money is better spent on drives, with an eye to upgrade in maybe 10 years once the hardware really starts showing its age
+--- 93154235
+>>93154131
+hey, joining the convo. i have a dl380 g8 aswell, setting it up slowly etc. Power consumption got me kinda scared since it draws 130w idle. reading this gave me some hope, what is a power cap that you use? 
+also i found dl380 8.1 service pack iso , no idea what that does, is it an essential install?
+--- 93154276
+>>93150119
+ZFS is for paranoia freaks so of course everyone is going to be paranoid about what hardware that is installed on it.
+
+TrueNAS is a victim of their own success. They made installing and using ZFS so easy that people who don't really care about ZFS and just want an easy-to-use NAS software are also using it. Of course the less paranoid are going to use it on their non-enterprise hardware with less optimal configurations but the TrueNAS community/devs only has themselves to blame if they don't like that
+--- 93154454
+>>93117124
+>I know it's retarded, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
+>I just wanna know HOW retarded, on a scale of 1-10.
+for what reason to run RAID5 over usb 2.0 even those HDDs can likely do 100MB/s which you are not getting over fucking 2.0 even in theory
+rip the wifi card out of the laptop and use a sata card in its place
+--- 93154468
+>>93150119
+theyre 100% right but u can do it wrong if u really want
+--- 93154506
+>>93153171
+raid 6 is still usable after any 2 drives fail, wtf are u smoking on?
+--- 93154602
+>>93154506
+My bad, I read anons "raid10 can fail with two disks" as "raid10 is two drive failures"
+Not smoking anything just nobody talks about raid failing like that. we do talk about the number of drives that can fail and still work, which is true for both ways read.
+Regardless I'd love to see you rebuild raid6 with two drive failures.
+--- 93154627
+>>93154235
+iLO has a power cap feature with an advanced license
+
+https://www.chathuraariyadasa.com/ho-ilo-license-activation-keys/
+
+i seriously doubt it's drawing 130W idle, especially if you've been setting it up / resetting firmware / rebooting a lot. in that case it's not really "idle," it's actually working quite hard
+
+the service pack basically updates all the firmware it can find to when it was released in 2017. from there, you also wanna check things like raid card, iLO, and system rom that have had further updates
+
+it's not the most efficient machine for sure, but it's not gonna be as power-hungry as something like a gaming PC. in a perfect world, i'd be on the arm architecture, but you need to spend $$$ for that kind of efficiency
+
+https://www.ebay.com/itm/394530142975
+https://www.ebay.com/itm/225516020343
+--- 93154843
+>>93154602
+raid 10 cant even rebuild if a mirrored pair fails. you will never be a sysadmin.
+--- 93154959
+>>93154627
+>but it's not gonna be as power-hungry as something like a gaming PC
+Modern gayming PCs are actually pretty efficient.
+Not as efficient as they could be but modern CPUs can idle under 10 watts
+
+You might be fooled with all the power virus tests with CPUs chugging 300w but when they are not doing that they are VASTLY more efficient than something a decade old with less power management features.
+--- 93155101
+>>93154235
+>hey, joining the convo.
+ive never been on reddit but this sounds like something they would say on reddit.
+--- 93155146
+>>93155101
+you were born in reddit
+--- 93155160
+>>93155101
+reddit is your actual nationality
+--- 93155261
+>>93155101
+you have either a reddit passport or a drivers license from reddit or else you are underage b& and should get the foh out of here
+--- 93155299
+>>93154959
+that's possibly true. i've been looking at dl380 gen10 for shits and giggles. this processor goes for minimum $500 (typically double that) and doesn't seem to use any less energy, it just does a lot more with the energy it does use - so in that sense it's more efficient
+
+https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Gold+6212U+%40+2.40GHz&id=3608
+
+not to mention the chassis itself costing like $1000 and needing to buy ddr4 ram, with can quickly get very pricey
+
+it all comes down to the same thing. tolerate a bit of inefficiency for a low-compute application, or spend thousands more for the promise that you might save a couple bucks on monthly electric bills for a few years until ppl ITT start saying that hardware from 2019 is "too old" cuz it's "not as efficient"
+--- 93155419
+>>93155299
+plus, for my use case and the fact that i've had this shit sitting around for years taking up space, it seems fine to colocate a gen8 proliant
+>very low compute requirements - 5% TDP is "a lot"
+>minimum $120/mo colocation spend anyway
+>highly efficient PSU's
+>ssd-based storage
+
+and at home
+>same low compute needs
+>8x 10k rpm hdd's take 6W each anyway
+>bound up with my home office, which includes 2 monitors and an inefficient work laptop (overly souped up intel mac)
+>total power use for everything is ~240-260W
+>the server alone uses ~180-190W which is well within the range of "acceptable consumption" for me (my first server, a cheap AMD toaster with 16GB non-ECC RAM and a handful of shitty wd blues, was built on the assumption that 250W peak usage was fine)
+>i did invest in the most efficient PSU reasonable - 80+ platinum rating. (80-92% efficient vs. titanium's 90-94% that costs like 3x as much)
+--- 93155446
+>>93155299
+>it all comes down to the same thing. tolerate a bit of inefficiency for a low-compute application, or spend thousands more for the promise that you might
+You could also just buy modern. lower end hardware.
+If you would be satisfied with a really old server's performance, then you would be satisfied with a modern desktop chip.
+--- 93155468
+>>93155446
+nice try non-ecc simp
+--- 93155543
+>>93155446
+we'll it's still gonna take a certain amount of power to run regardless, and my virtualization / data integrity needs demand a certain class of hardware
+
+but yes, i did run a cheap consoomer-grade amd setup for years without issue. these days, i just expect to run everything on VM's and to have robust memory/disk write error correction
+--- 93156151
+>>93122656
+>>93116855
+>now post it in real currancy
+>now tell me how much I'd pay without knowing my location or electric prices
+another day another muttpost
+--- 93156218
+>>93117124
+there's nothing actually wrong with windows server, I just set up a server on my dell r220
+
+E3-1241v3
+32GB RAM
+Qnap 2x m.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 + 10Gbe
+
+Virtualised pfSense router
+Virtualised homeassistant 
+qBittorrent on baremetal 
+
+pfsense lan and the home assistant are on a vSwitch shared with the OS on the 10Gb port, dedicated 1Gb for host access+idrac, dedicated 1Gb for pfsense WAN on a passthrough switch.
+Going live tomorrow when my new ISP pulls fibre to my house
+--- 93156524
+>>93154131
+Honestly the main power hog is the drives, my dl360p g8 with dual E5-2640s + 128GB ram and 6 2.5" SAS 10k HDDs sits around 120w idle whereas my supermicro with a single E5-2640v3, 16GB ram and 13 2.5" SAS 10k HDDs sits at 150w idle.
+One of my driving homelab goals has been lowest w/TB storage, I'm looking at 5TB 2.5" HDDs since they have the best w/TB of any other drives I've seen.
+--- 93156537
+>no networking thread
+So I'm here. I just want to get a small 8 port switch for my room to ethernet everything instead of using wifi. Is there a downside to getting one of those cheap $20 switches from TP-Link?
+--- 93156615
+>>93156537
+No
+Had an even cheaper 5 port version and I had it for like 8 years before I just retired it.
+--- 93156690
+>>93156537
+depends if you want everything to be on the same ip network. if thats fine with you, then it should do.
+--- 93156742
+>>93156524
+>optimizing power per storage capacity instead of up front cost
+truly next level posting
+--- 93157111
+>>93156524
+yeah, i have a lot of drives that are more or less constantly working, especially the mirrors that are
+>taking hourly deltas of cloud hosts
+>taking hourly images of machines
+assuming 6W/drive, that's 48W right there. not to mention the requisite 64GB RAM devoted exclusively to ZFS (+ i think either 16 or 32 GB RAM allocated to the NAS VM)
+
+i still refuse to populate more than one CPU socket due to power considerations, as that would add another 40-50W for no reason at all. i use E5-2697 v2's in my servers
+
+for my home server application, i use HDD's because i need the data to be there and don't care if it's accessed so fast. 10K RPM over 6Gb/s SATA is more than fast enough
+
+for my colo server, the entire thing is flash media only except for *maybe* installing proxmox on a pair of 300GB 15K SAS HDD's that i have 5 of lying around and got for free. the rest is straight samsung enterprise ssd's that consume like 1W each
+
+the best power consumption for storage with density approaching a trad HDD setup would prolly be something like an array of 3.84TB PM883's. hope you have lots of money
+
+i just bought 8x1.92TB of them for a steal at $80/each, which combined with the other drives (883 DCT's, same capacity) gives like 13.5TB mirrored storage. it might even be too much storage,
+--- 93157276
+>>93146849
+You might need to browse those folders logged in as the administrator and set Windows permissions separately from within Windows itself. But I'm not certain if there will be permissions or settings somewhere to explicitly not show the folder they're not allowed in, especially due to the read contents permission of the 'folder' those two shares are contained in will allow anyone to see what's in it.
+Alternatively, you make the users network attach the folders separately.
+
+>>93150207
+It's thermal design power. It's what the cooling solution should be able to handle for all conditions of the cpu power load. That also means it's partially related to how much power the cpu can consume and convert into heat but that obviously changes depending on load. You need to find someone testing the cpus to get a clearer picture of power consumption but not many seem to do that for server cpus.
+--- 93157334
+>>93152089
+there is never a valid use case for raid10
+>need speed
+use raid 1, or if you REALLY need speed, use raid0
+>need redundancy
+use raid 5 or 6, where 5 gives you more capacity in a 4disk array and 6 gices you higher redundancy (any two drives can fail rather than only opposingly striped drives)
+raid10 is just a useless raid. its not the fastest and its not the most redundant and it doesnt offer the most capacity. it's this "jack of all trades, master of none" thing that ends up being even a little riskier than anything else because of how it's redundancy works
+>>93154602
+> nobody talks about raid failing like that.
+only on /g/ and useneddit where everything is LARP
+myself and every sysadmin I know talks about the actual probability because it isn't hard to calculate given a known volume and rate of data. i dint know anyone that intentionally uses raid10 without a very, very good reason and speed is never one of them, it's always about mismatched drives and a low budget or some other obscure case and these days most people would just end up with a software raid of some sort instead.
+noone uses raid10 except in a homelab where the point is learning what not to do in the real world

g/93112425.txt

@@ -734,3 +734,233 @@ Actually you right im a virgin
 And im almost gay
 >>93140277
 Small desk and nothing to put on top.
+--- 93146835
+>>93146592
+thats a cute setup, shame about the girl in it
+>the rainforrest anon
+I think my favourite part is the quad-curved-monitor setup with two horizontals in the center and two verticals on the side, really gives you a huge amount of flexability. I frequently find I'm wanting a vertical monitor for long code audits but it's such a pain in the ass constantly rotating screens and rearranging them
+I plan on getting a 32:9 to replace my two 16:9's, and then use the current 16:9 displays as either vertical stand flanking ones, or sit them below the ultrawide facing upwards and use them for controls and such (eg adobe panels)
+--- 93147333
+>>93146835
+I think your confusing multiple monitor anon with a lot of plants with pic rel
+--- 93148169
+>>93147333
+Genuinely top 10 battlestation. Also is that CSM?
+--- 93148313
+>>93137006
+We have access to everything amerimutts and europoors have, but with actual freedom, you guys claim to have it so much.
+--- 93148336
+>>93147333
+goes hard but a femboy resides there
+--- 93148373
+>>93138443
+These would be chileans,argentineans and peruvians
+--- 93148374
+>>93148313
+I was just reading that they banned telegram because they wouldn’t censor users lol
+--- 93148427
+>>93148374
+Yeah, you are right, they wouldnt sensor actual crimes they were posting on telegram, I think discord is next
+--- 93148442
+>>93146592
+> goes outside.
+> dies.
+--- 93149336
+>>93143704
+sounds neat, would be cool to see
+--- 93149634
+First time posting
+Pretty happy with it tbf
+--- 93149821
+Ignore the empty case, the guts get here Thursday, and a separate screen sometime next week.
+--- 93149840
+>>93149634
+the house is neat, but that PC case completely dominates the desk. you should get a small table to put it next to the desk at a lower level.
+--- 93149865
+>>93115212
+>3D printed save icons
+--- 93150161
+>>93149840
+>the house is neat
+Thanks Anon.
+>you should get a small table to put it next to the desk at a lower level.
+Yeah, would clear a lot of space but I like it when the case kind of encloses the desk from the rest of the room.
+--- 93150243
+>>93136369
+Do you keep the informational manual that came with your chair on the desk?
+--- 93150284
+>>93122885
+cute kot!
+--- 93150317
+>>93150161
+fair enough, it just feels a little cramped like that in my opinion, but it's your space.
+--- 93150323
+how do you guys handle your leisure spending? I'm making good money, saving a lot, doing nothing but the occasional low-mid tier restaurant with loved ones and a slightly bigger vacation every other year and yet I still feel guilty for spending 50$ on hardware and computer stuff I don't absolutely need.
+--- 93150327
+>>93149821
+The ultimate in cable management. No parts, no cables. Bliss
+--- 93150502
+>>93150323
+Why do you feel the need to spend?
+Save as much as you want, and invest your savings to make it easier for yourself in the future when you might need these money.
+--- 93150652
+>>93150323
+I just buy what I need for PC and upgrade something when I feel like it or see an opportunity. I do try to at least sell the old stuff before I get new one though.
+On the edge of getting 2x 16GB ram sticks and selling my 2x 8GB, and wanting to get a 27" if I'm able to see my secondary 22".
+I lose interest on buying things if it will become clutter or unused. Thinking of paying off all the things then going on a basic local trip with friends.
+--- 93150718
+My old Shitposting headquarters while I was in romania
+--- 93150744
+>>93150323
+literally all of my "leisure money" just goes to getting coffee and sandwiches hand-delivered to my doorstep.
+last year i realised that computer parts would never make me happy, and decided to start taking the "7 deadly sins"-pill, i.e. just satisfy carnal desires.
+currently doing the "gluttony" walkthrough.
+--- 93151945
+>>93114905
+>>93112425 (OP)
+brazilbros keep on winnin
+--- 93152150
+>>93118594
+
+Comfy.
+
+>>93122439
+Is the fan not in use or are you cooling that drink?
+
+>>93130228
+Still based.
+
+>>93146592
+>>93140277
+This is why I rarely clean mine. It doesn't have to be so antiseptic otherwise I think it loses something.
+--- 93152178
+Contract ended recently so with some of the free time I may be re-jiggering the setup.
+--- 93152191
+>>93152150
+the fan keeps my hand cool.
+--- 93152496
+>>93152178
+more free time to BLOAT
+--- 93152566
+>>93145380
+thats exactly why i got it, and i want the larger version of it now that i use a number pad more at work.
+Its the perfect profile for my typing style.
+--- 93152582
+>>93149865
+i use them for copying MIDI music albums, though i have left that pack there because it stabilizes my monitor really well
+--- 93152714
+>>93150718
+yeah looks pretty romanian
+--- 93152921
+>>93149634
+I think it looks comfy, although I'd recommend you invest in some better headphones.
+--- 93153017
+>>93149634
+id suggest as the other anon putting the case next to the table rather than on, you can put left of the desk it seems, no need to get a smaller desk though, cozy setup
+--- 93153031
+old wfh setup
+--- 93153279
+>>93150718
+You American, boyo?
+--- 93153608
+Never did one of these, about time I did.
+34" mon wired to laptop in the back while the rig is being built.
+Also, 5-6 piss bottles below the table.
+>inb4 faggot motivational shit
+--- 93153705
+>>93143421
+>>with the osciliscopes and the 400 cans of dr peper (two different people I think)
+max comfy, dream life.
+--- 93153748
+>>93132795
+based steve with the vx2100. wonder if he recorded any sick skate footy with that.
+--- 93153871
+serious question, why is everyone that post in these threads so poor
+--- 93153897
+>>93152921
+Well, I have to wear glasses and the Sennheiser HD 25 Plus I bought presses too hard against my ears to be comfy/painless (even when switching to the soft earcups provided with the headset), so I reverted back to the cheap shit you see on the pic that doesn't hurt my ears at all no matter how long I have them on.
+
+>>93153017
+I know it would be the smart thing to do but I do like the cramped/enclosed feeling.
+--- 93153982
+>>93117949
+>average americuck military cuck narrow minded burger retard
+--- 93154011
+>>93119170
+instalează gentoo
+--- 93154047
+poasting relatively old pic but whatever
+--- 93154138
+>>93153608
+i respect the schizophrenia
+i feel like the clock deserves a more dignified hanging mechanism than a plastic towel hook...
+--- 93154160
+>>93153938
+diamond in the rough. that massive CRT is absolutely baller.
+it just needs to get cleaned up by a hazmat squad and it'll be super comfy.
+--- 93154609
+>>93148336
+what the fuck tells you that
+--- 93154711
+>>93151945
+--- 93155035
+>>93153938
+sovl, so comfy anon
+--- 93155090
+>>93115919
+I don't understand lighting the screen, what is the point ?
+--- 93155263
+>>93155090
+the point of those light bars is to not light the screen. he is just incompetent and has his improperly aimed.
+--- 93155393
+>>93133147
+post @, baka
+--- 93155667
+has anyone here tried this?
+--- 93155820
+>>93148427
+>has the ability to track child predators with ease
+>refuses to do so
+tell me again why i should like brazil? sometimes you cant give everyone all freedoms or else your kids get raped and your famiky gets murdered.
+--- 93155875
+>>93115919
+>>93115061 fur fag
+>>93118377
+>>93120037
+>>93122895
+>>93135554
+>>93154047
+very decent I dig it
+
+>>93122439
+said the guy with AGP
+--- 93155904
+>>93155667
+steps-as-cabinets look flimsy. feels like my feet would easily fell through the floor.
+--- 93156114
+>>93154711
+zazed and testosteronepilled
+--- 93156345
+I can't tell if
+>>93153031
+or
+>>93153608
+bum me out more.
+--- 93156473
+>>93156345
+>>93153608 anon here, how can I improve, fren?
+--- 93156801
+>>93153608
+is you screen AW3423DWF ? are you happy with it ?
+--- 93157184
+>>93153608
+this is the modern equivilant of this
+--- 93157292
+>>93157184
+nah, that lacks the schizo notes
+--- 93157316
+>>93112425 (OP)
+Based
+--- 93157338
+>>93155667
+this looks terrible, being confined to a small overhead while working

g/93115956.txt

@@ -934,3 +934,203 @@ iPhones of my friends though, didn't last even 4 full years. They had 7 back the
 >>93139825
 My two banking apps work just fine plus the 2fa auth from work doesn't have any issues. 
 Keep seething iToddler, I paid a quarter of the iToy X for my Poco F1.
+--- 93146832
+>>93144385
+Stop using wireless charging, it heats up the battery more than wired and it is extremely inefficient.
+--- 93146936
+Is the Zenfone 9 still the only good "small" phone to get? Shit is still 760 euro where I am.
+--- 93147101
+>>93126901
+7a. Will be better all-round. Faster SoC, better fingerprint reader, new camera setup, 90Hz screen.
+--- 93147105
+>>93139961
+>Does anyone know of a good way to turn it into a dedicated e-reader?
+Yeah. You download png files and then read them.
+--- 93147116
+>>93140541
+A14 is fine.
+--- 93147135
+>>93141686
+Xcover 5
+Pixel 4a
+Galaxy S10e w/Lineage
+Ulefone Jelly 2
+--- 93147168
+>>93145894
+$300. Get something Motorola.
+--- 93147220
+>>93115956 (OP)
+Best phone with a headphone jack?
+Asus zenphone 9 looks decent, but I'd like something a little bigger and with wireless charging.
+If the s23 had a headphone jack, I'd get it.
+The glass back on my s10+ is coming unglued, so I'd like to replace it. I think I left it in from of my car's heater for too long...
+--- 93147458
+>>93147220
+>The glass back on my s10+ is coming unglued
+It's a feature that lets you replace the battery easier. Also just get a case
+--- 93147573
+>>93144338
+Anime website
+--- 93147641
+>>93147458
+I have a case, but now my phone isn't waterproof.
+Battery has actually held up fine over the years.
+Maybe I should just get a battery replacement kit and glue it back on.
+Also, my screen is burned in quite a bit from being in the sun, so I was looking for another phone anyway.
+--- 93147698
+>>93147220
+Xperia 1 V in a few days, Xperia 5 V in a few months. It should be about the same price as a S23U.
+--- 93149102
+>>93146936
+Stop trusting "reviewers" calling the Zenfone 9 "small".
+--- 93149128
+>>93147698
+Too bad the audio jack is 20$ mp3 player tier.
+--- 93149376
+>LCD screen (every OLED phone I have used has gotten burn in)
+>120hz
+>Cutting edge chipset
+>headphone jack
+>Ateast 8gigs of memory
+
+Does this phone exist?
+--- 93149635
+>>93149376
+poco x3 pro
+--- 93149807
+I think I'm going to buy an A34, but I'm pissed that it has no headphone jack. If the Moto G82 had a better camera, I would've bought it already.
+I guess I can just buy an mp3 player.
+--- 93150120
+My second Pixel 3 has now lived through 2 days when I didn't need to use it too often. I'm proud of it. Although they could've put some 4000 mAh in that generation already, Pixel 5 has shitty speakers and camera hole.
+--- 93150472
+>>93147220
+The S23 doesn't have the headphone jack but you can always buy a dongle.
+--- 93150811
+Youtube Vanced has died. What the hell am I supposed to use now
+--- 93150916
+>>93144183
+>>93144173
+Is it easy to tell that a phone is fake? I can buy one and just check.
+--- 93151166
+>>93150811
+Newpipe is nice. Lack of Google account bullshit is refreshing. I heard there's LibreTube too.
+--- 93151289
+Just got my zenfone 9, set everything up, it's still at android 12 and sec update from august 2022, ota update will come later right?
+--- 93151442
+>>93115956 (OP)
+>I'm proud to present the iPhone
+--- 93151474
+my phone just baleeted an entire music folder
+dont even know where to begin figuring out what happened
+--- 93151549
+>>93151474
+You can't find it with a file manager? X-plore has a handy folder map which you can use, and if it's a big folder it will show up. Maybe you moved it by mistake.
+--- 93151666
+Decided my next phone will be an iphone, haven't used one since the 5s. Let's see if the shills are onto something.
+--- 93151724
+>>93151549
+nope, i looked for the files and they're gone
+the folder itself is still there but it's empty
+i'm sure i didn't delete it myself and i was just listening to that folder yesterday, then opened poweramp today again and all files are missing
+pretty weird
+--- 93151846
+>>93151666
+I've been using mine for more than 4 years, mr. Satan.
+--- 93151862
+>>93151724
+Well, the OS always re-creates an empty Music folder.
+--- 93151943
+>>93151862
+No it's a subfolder in the music folder
+The main music folder is fine, all files are there, other subfolders are also untouched, it was just this specific one
+--- 93152197
+Sick of EU volume limit here in the U.K how the duck do audiophiles enjoy uninterrupted audio bliss without the volume randomly turning itself down? Lawmakers must be trolling...
+--- 93152211
+What's the best Samsung or Motorola for $200?
+--- 93152533
+>>93152197
+Never happens to me on S23U.
+--- 93152552
+>>93143760
+that's true
+--- 93152613
+>>93146226
+I have more in altcoins than you make in a year nigger. Sent from my FagBook Pro Max 16,2" 64GB of RAM.
+--- 93152747
+>>93149128
+>sony failing headphones
+it's over for real
+--- 93152755
+>>93152533
+Yes, it does
+--- 93153281
+>>93151846
+Ok, well what do you think? Are there any thoughts in that head of yours?
+--- 93154102
+Is a53 the fav phone was it another one
+--- 93154144
+CAN THESE MEME PHONE MAKERS STOP WITH THE FUCKING OLED THAT CANT EVEN GET BRIGHT AND HAS PWM
+WHO EVEN LIKES FUCKING OLED
+BRING BACK THE LCD JESUS CHRIST
+--- 93154377
+>>93149807
+A52 5G.
+--- 93154445
+>>93152211
+Moto G82 or G100
+A14 or A52 5G
+--- 93154451
+>>93154144
+You need an S23 right now and I'm not even shilling. You get the best display and the best software experience
+--- 93154474
+>>93149128
+Works fine on my machine.
+--- 93154543
+>>93154377
+>>93154445
+the a53 is not good?
+--- 93154726
+>>93124470
+>buying a nice phone is retarded
+>buying several overpriced euroshit vehicles is not
+--- 93154808
+Does LCD panels have any advantages over AMOLED ?
+--- 93154872
+>>93154474
+Your machine is shit and it doesn't matter. Stop coping.
+--- 93154890
+>>93154808
+They're thicker, less efficient and have worse specs in every measureable metric. But they don't burn in unevenly.
+--- 93154994
+>>93140680
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmwLcLikXQ [Embed]
+--- 93155186
+still waiting for 1 V to btfo samsung shills
+--- 93155340
+>>93155186
+>throttles
+kek
+--- 93155398
+>>93154543
+No.
+--- 93155415
+>>93154451
+I'll wait for the S27
+--- 93156311
+>>93116410
+The King!
+--- 93156394
+>>93155340
+throttle deez nuts lmao
+--- 93156939
+>>93154808
+They don't destroy your eyes
+--- 93157014
+>>93149807
+
+I bought an A23 5G instead of an A33 solely because of the headphone jack.
+--- 93157135
+>>93156939
+>eyelet
+--- 93157401
+i've been using the pinephone as my daily driver for a couple years without much issue, but i gotta start going back to the office so i'm gonna need something with a longer battery life, what should I get?

g/93121411.txt

@@ -796,3 +796,369 @@ this is cool
 --- 93145896
 >>93145045
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRsJH6De6nI&list=RDZRsJH6De6nI [Embed]
+--- 93147474
+>>93143736
+Using the word "homosexual" is homosexual.
+--- 93147480
+>>93142211
+Neumi bs5p has a firmware version with a high pass filter at 80Hz. That's the easiest option. But in general go with minidsp or recievers.
+--- 93147567
+>>93144698
+How does moode go with downloading stuff for local storage from tidal, deezer or spotify?
+--- 93147992
+>>93147567
+Can't say, i play stuff from my own server or net radio stations.
+I'm a bit of a pirate and download my shit from rutracker, TPB and so on.
+--- 93148858
+Hello, dual-mono friends
+--- 93149010
+>>93148858
+I think if I ever did distributed audio in a house I'd do it all in mono. Makes no sense when people do kitchen systems and stuff and then do stereo.
+--- 93149173
+What are some good cheap powered speakers that take RCA ?
+Under 50 euro if they exist, I just need them as secondary speakers in another room
+--- 93149490
+>>93149173
+Used Alesis M1 active with a couple of female RCA - male Jack 6.35mm adapter
+--- 93149598
+DSP and room correction noob here. I've recently obtained a measurement microphone and corrected my setup via a convolution filter. I did not move my speakers at all, only equalization. After applying it i feel like the soundstage has expanded significantly, vocals appear to stage much further forwards, especially audible in songs with fairly isolated vocals, first noticed it while listening to In The Air Tonight. Is it possible for equalization alone to do that or have I gone full placeboid?
+--- 93149739
+Got a pair of Spendor A1s to Rega Brio to Rega P3. 
+What kind of dac\streamer+dac would you recommend to attach all that to a tv?
+--- 93149867
+>>93149739
+>Spendor A1
+cute. i'd like these in natural walnut for my desk. what finish do you have?
+
+As far as attaching to a TV, I'd just get a receiver.
+--- 93149977
+>>93149867
+The light one. Oak I think.
+I like Spendors, my big bro had a pair of different ones and I always liked how they sounded.
+--- 93150691
+>>93148858
+Sweet silver ware, my dude.
+
+>>93149010
+Not sure, you can still enjoy the airyness of stereo, even if you aren't in the sweet spot.
+
+>>93149598
+Hard to say, but it's entirely possible that a real change has happened in the frequency response and what you hear is real.
+I hear the change in bass mostly in my setup, it's gotten dry, it feels as if there is no reverb in it as it is without DSP.
+I bought a Dirac license, but didn't activate it yet, word is it will fix timing issues and allows for a less smeary stereo image.
+Last step would be testing out some room treatment. I have glass doors behind my speakers, i wonder what an absorber would change.
+Anyway, i pity the people that don't have any EQ at all.
+
+>>93149739
+MiniDSP Flex, input from TV via optical.
+
+>>93149977
+Show pics you thundercunt.
+--- 93151135
+>>93149598
+Every audiophool buzzword is just a product of frequency response and distortion, so that's entirely possible.
+--- 93151292
+>>93151135
+You didn't account for the spirituality of music there.
+--- 93151495
+>>93145045
+Real music.
+https://youtu.be/voSHK1bAIN4 [Embed]
+--- 93151528
+>>93151292
+>take LS50
+>put it in a big box and cross it over with other woofers so it actually has bass and high output
+>say you made the best speaker ever and charge $250,000
+
+It's insulting, honestly.
+--- 93151821
+>>93151495
+Jorge wants to be hardcore, but his mother doesn't let him.
+
+>>93151528
+It's a clownshoe thing, you wouldn't get it.
+--- 93151857
+>>93121411 (OP)
+are wharfedale diamonds really that good?
+--- 93151987
+>>93151857
+They are good for the money, check out the measurements of the 12.1 at ASR. Good directivity, fair distortion. They work well with DSP and are acceptable without.
+If you find something better, let us know.
+Anyway, we don't have really bad gear in the OP, so feel free to pick something else. I'm a large fan of the LX-3 II since a few days.
+--- 93152000
+>>93151857
+--- 93152021
+>>93151857
+Also, check out the 5 way Vuvuzela
+--- 93152062
+>>93151987
+>I'm a large fan of the LX-3 II
+I really wish there was more reviews on these. How are they? You ever used diamond 12.2s before?
+--- 93152090
+>>93152021
+For optimal trainhorn sound restitution.
+--- 93152268
+BOOM BOOM, BOOM BOOM
+I WANT YOU IN MY ROOM
+LETS SPEND THE NIGHT TOGETHER
+BOOM BOOM, BOOM BOOM
+
+>>93152062
+Nope, not personally. I usually have a bit pricier stuff, the ATC below the Mission are somewhere at 3k€ or so.
+But every now and then i try out stuff when there is a price error. So i found an Amazon.de listing for shower curtains with the description of the LX-3 II for 190€ and gave them a try.
+What do you have? Pics?
+
+>>93152090
+Imagine this thing in a regular Yuropoor flat, in a 30m2 living room. Tröööööööt
+--- 93152315
+NGL, these are cool.
+--- 93152350
+New copypasta for when we have another audiophool?
+
+
+You claim that an
+
+( ) audible
+( ) measurable
+( ) hypothetical
+
+improvement in sound quality can be attained by:
+
+( ) upsampling
+( ) increasing word size
+( ) vibration dampening
+( ) bi-wiring
+( ) replacing the external power supply
+( ) using a different lossless format
+( ) decompressing on the server
+( ) removing bits of metal from skull
+( ) using ethernet instead of wireless
+( ) inverting phase
+( ) installing bigger connectors
+( ) installing Black Gate caps
+( ) installing ByBee filters
+( ) installing hospital-grade AC jacks
+( ) defragmenting the hard disk
+( ) running older firmware
+
+Your idea will not work. Specifically, it fails to account for:
+
+( ) the placebo effect
+( ) your ears honestly aren't that good
+( ) your idea has already been thoroughly disproved
+( ) modern DACs upsample anyway
+( ) those products are pure snake oil
+( ) lossless formats, by definition, are lossless
+( ) those measurements are bogus
+( ) sound travels much slower than you think
+( ) electric signals travel much faster than you think
+( ) that's not how binary arithmetic works
+( ) that's not how TCP/IP works
+( ) the Nyquist theorem
+( ) the can't polish a turd theorem
+( ) bits are bits
+
+Your subsequent arguments will probably appeal in desperation to such esoterica as:
+
+( ) jitter
+( ) EMI
+( ) thermal noise
+( ) existentialism
+( ) cosmic rays
+
+And you will then change the subject to:
+
+( ) theories are not the same as facts
+( ) measurements don't tell everything
+( ) not everyone is subject to the placebo effect
+( ) blind testing is dumb
+( ) you can't prove what I can't hear
+( ) science isn't everything
+
+Rather than engage in this tired discussion, I suggest exploring the following factors which are more likely to improve sound quality in your situation:
+
+( ) room acoustics
+( ) source material
+( ) type of speakers
+( ) speaker placement
+( ) crossover points
+( ) equalization
+( ) Q-tips
+--- 93152351
+>>93152315
+>naked men
+lol ok
+--- 93152438
+>>93152351
+>is afraid of evropean sovl
+>thinks naked men are gay
+>is a wizard
+I can tell your opinion doesn't matter to anyone by the tone of your prose.
+--- 93152501
+>>93151495
+>Insect Warfare
+got attacked by some ants last October their music was more fun
+--- 93152528
+>>93152350
+>replacing the external power supply
+Aiyima A07
+>inverting phase
+If you train you can hear it
+>running older firmware
+Airpods
+--- 93152679
+I've had ma Vanatoo T0s and SB-1000 for about half a year now. How do I calibrate them?
+--- 93152683
+>>93152350
+>vibration dampening
+Subwoofers on a suspended floor. Bookshelf speakers on a desk. Studio monitor isolation pads do make a difference depending on the surface they're used on.
+>inverting phase
+Phase adjustment can help.
+https://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-setup/subwoofer-placement-the-place-for-bass-part-1/subwoofer-placement-the-place-for-bass-part-1-page-5
+--- 93152715
+>>93152679
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev1bSSL8tRA [Embed]
+--- 93152757
+AP3050D vs TPA3116 ?
+--- 93152761
+>>93152021
+meh, I prefer real bass with my train horns
+--- 93152773
+>>93152438
+You talk like a fucking a fag, i know exactly how to deal with the likes of you, you're lucky this is the internet you faggot pussy
+
+And I don't care about the topic sexuality being pushed in music or other arts but when it stands against man and woman that's the shit that I'm not comfortable with.
+
+I've got a right to speak my mind and no one can tell me anything
+
+speakers looked like shit anyway, fucking shit taste
+--- 93152865
+>>93152773
+poor little anon, show me where the globohomo touched you.
+also your reddit spacing is gayer than any naked man can ever be.
+--- 93152893
+>>93152865
+pompous servant of the serpent show yourself
+--- 93152942
+I have iFi portable dac but i use this beauty daily, the headphone cue feature is my best friend for djing
+--- 93153004
+1x10 can basically blow your ears out, some of these giant rigs are downright scary
+--- 93153108
+>>93152773
+>it stands against man and woman
+It's just in your head, son. Nobody projects sexuality into this, it's just a naked stone dude.
+You have to be 18 to post here. Picrel is (you).
+
+>>93152942
+What does it do?
+--- 93153302
+>>93153108
+4channel usb soundcard lets monitor channels 1+2 or 3+4 with headphones
+
+handsome pic btw
+--- 93153449
+>>93153302
+>handsome pic btw
+Y-you t-too?
+--- 93153493
+finally got around soldering some xlr cables and set up the in-8s i ordered last week
+first time having speakers on my desk - this fucking sucks - no space for anything can't even open the laptop
+and now i have to buy a fucking shelf or highboard or whatever to put the record player on
+oh and also stands for the speakers (am thinking about isoacoustics any other recommendations?)
+sound is great though so i guess it's all worth it
+--- 93153646
+>>93152773
+>>93152438
+>>93152351
+>>93152315
+Guys guys guys calm down. I think we can all agree that class D is fucking shit and only purchased by scrubs. Class A/B audio is the true patricians choice.
+--- 93153694
+>>93152350
+Nice, I prefer to just call them fucking faggots and insult their probable virgin status. That's a lot simpler.
+--- 93153810
+>>93153493
+Studio monitor isolation pads. They're all made of the same dense foam, so just get the cheapest ones that fit the dimensions of the speaker.
+--- 93153928
+>>93153810
+>foam pads
+aren't isolation stands supposed to be much better?
+--- 93154076
+>>93153928
+Why are they supposed to be better, compared with say, a stack of books with a rubber mat?
+--- 93154104
+>>93153928
+They just look nicer. You only need to stop vibrations, and the foam they use is great at that.
+--- 93154121
+>>93153928
+Comprehend the incomprehensible.
+--- 93154213
+>>93154121
+Stealing the flooring from children's playgrounds and using it to soundproof your room?
+--- 93154259
+The two live discs that came with the special edition of So are so fantastic.
+--- 93154280
+>>93154213
+I see no problem with that, if you make sure to leave some heroin needles or something in exchange.
+--- 93154372
+>>93153928
+Stands don't do anything. Elastic materials absorb vibration, increased mass reduces the amplitude of vibrations. I have a granite plate on a rubber mat under my subwoofer, no vibration is reaching the floor. Cost me about $10 in total. This doesn't stop the sound itself vibrating the floor though.
+--- 93154373
+>>93154076
+>>93154104
+>>93154121
+I don't know I guess the smaller contact surface should reduce transmitted vibrations
+I'll also need 9-10cm of lift so pure foam won't cut it and i don't really like the idea of stacked books
+just looked at the different options on thomann and the isoacoustics look nice and stable and had the best reviews
+I'm sure there's some autist out there who measured different monitor stands (waterfall decay diagram maybe?)
+--- 93154490
+>>93154372
+>I have a granite plate on a rubber mat under my subwoofer
+I do the same with a 3D printer. The stone plate was 1.50€ and the foam is from some packaging.
+--- 93154526
+>>93154373
+Get the foam pads and make small risers yourself. Get creative and be proud of it. Spray paint is surprisingly easy.
+You could also try wall mounting them with brackets, which would also be cheap and give you more desk space.
+--- 93154845
+I had a $300 dac and $300 tube amp, and beyerdynamic T1.
+
+Gave the dac and tube amp away, beyer t1 have been in a closet for 4yrs because the headband and pads are worn. Using AKG 240 directly connected to my onboard sound instead and a chink soundbar. Doesn't really get much better than this.
+--- 93154961
+>>93154526
+why do you hate stands so much?
+I'd rather spend 100€ on some ready made stands than 50 in materials and an afternoon of work for no improvements, just for the sake of diy
+>wall mounting them
+not that much cheaper so i prefer the flexibility of stands also the gained desk space would be unusable because of the low height
+
+>granite plate on a rubber mat
+that probably works great for you but obtaining a granite plate is a lot more effort or not that much cheaper than just ordering some stands
+--- 93155359
+>>93154961
+Because they're very overpriced for what they do. And yes, mounting them on the wall would be much cheaper. It's like $35 for a pair of mounts on Amazon and the pads are like $25.
+--- 93155474
+>>93155359
+>$35 for a pair of mounts
+i could also get a pair of amazon stands for that price
+I just want some nice stands don't really care about spending 50 bucks more or less
+still open for other (stand) suggestions
+--- 93155549
+>>93155474
+Then don't cry about reduced desk space. And look for yourself, you're not a child.
+--- 93155569
+>>93155474
+I could get your mother for 2 hours for that price.
+--- 93155758
+>>93154845
+>Gave the dac and tube amp away
+I have some Grado GS-1000's that I run with a Matrix mini-i DAC into a woo audio WA22 tube amp. While I love the sound with the tube amp and it looks cool on my shelf it is only slightly better than just going out of the DAC's headphone out. If I were to do it again I would have just skipped buying the tube amp. The DAC is like 95% of the improvement over going direct out of a sound card, or at least it was for me. A higher end soundcard though with a nice set of headphones will probably do the trick for most people.
+--- 93155764
+>>93155549
+i was simply asking about desk stands maybe some anons have had good experiences with other brands
+
+>>93155569
+>your mother for 2 hours
+that'd be a generous tip, thanks anon
+--- 93156919
+hifi is for boomers
+--- 93157070
+>>93156919
+lofi is for chads

g/93121756.txt

@@ -794,3 +794,74 @@ If 10/11 still had access to that classic theme that 7 had I'd be using it in a
 --- 93145780
 >>93144953
 Check out the site OSVault. I'd also very much recommend running Windows like the 9x editions in PCem or 86Box instead of VirtualBox or VMware.
+--- 93147174
+>>93145073
+The Eye still has OS downloads? A mirror I found doesn't seem to.
+Man, I miss when they had full rom sets.
+--- 93147855
+>>93145498
+The irony is, it does. The "classic theme" is actually "no theme at all": it's how GDI and USER have drawn windows and controls since Windows 95. If you completely kill the DWM, it will fall back to it.
+However, therein lies the problem: so much modern code is now dependent on DWM, killing it breaks a ton of stuff, not least of which is all UWP apps.
+--- 93148717
+>>93147855
+Well then there's really no use trying to "use" it then is there. I guess there might be some kind of classic theme you could get off DeviantArt to use with SecureUXTheme if I was *really* desperate, but I have my taskbar auto-hide and I barely even use my Start so whatever I guess.
+--- 93148751
+>>93148717
+No, there isn't. Not since Windows 8.
+The world moves on, anon. Yes, your best bet is to fish around for lookalike theme.
+--- 93149765
+help a brainlet out, how do i upgrade from windows 7 to 10 iot ltsc without breaking shit and without doing a fresh install
+--- 93149883
+>>93149765
+That upgrade path is specifically blocked. However, there is one horrible way around it, and that's install LTSB 2015 first. It didn't have a block on upgrading coomer SKUs, so if you do that, you can then install LTSC 2021 and get on with your life.
+Don't be a retard though: take a full, working backup of at least C: drive before doing this, and budget at least four hours for the job.
+--- 93149948
+>>93149765
+Going from 7 to 10 LTSC with all files kept isn't officially supported and you gotta go through hoops if you want to do it. The easiest thing to do would be to backup all your shit and then just wipe your install and install 10 LTSC over the rubble.
+--- 93150533
+So I heard that win 10 and 11 have either reduced or removed telemetry of you use a EU version or set your system to a EU country during install. That or, if you disabled teletry on a EU version it actually disables all of it thanks to EU privacy laws. 
+
+That true or a load of shit?
+--- 93150591
+>>93150533
+It's a load of shit. The EUSSR is probably working on the idea (they like controlling everyone and everything like all communists do), but it doesn't affect the Windows ISO you install today - or tomorrow, or next month, or likely even next year.
+--- 93150654
+>>93150533
+Sounds like snake oil to me. Just run ShutUp10++ on a stock install like the rest of us.
+--- 93151384
+>>93121756 (OP)
+Where do I get Windows 11 Education, if that is even a thing ?
+--- 93152008
+>>93151384
+Microsoft website, copypaste links
+Microsoft releases a multi-edition iso which you can select from lots of version liek Home, Pro, Education etc
+>>93150533
+Education comes off with some telemetry and settings already off
+You should run shutup10++ after each install anyways
+--- 93153402
+which anime should i start watching guys
+--- 93154769
+>>93121820
+>imagine needed 1GB of RAM minimum
+*2GB
+>~ this post was made by XP gang
+needs 512
+--- 93155664
+Is it possible to program foobar2k to use my ASIO audio interface only when it's speakers are the default audio device on windows?
+My current setup is Headphones/Monitors and I don't want to switch foobar settings according to which audio device I'm using.
+--- 93155803
+Guys how do I install Windows from a USB without deleting my secondary ssd? Am I rarted?
+--- 93155851
+Bitch ass nigger Win10 update fucked my trackpad up. The center of my x270 trackpad doesn't work properly anymore. Stupid piece of shit.
+--- 93156318
+>>93155803
+In the normal setup just don't delete that drive and select the primary drive instead. (Go by size and not number)
+See pic rel
+--- 93156562
+Does Ryzen 5600x have better scheduling on Win11? If so, how do I get it while also removing TPM requirements and etc so I don't mess up my mobo?
+--- 93156563
+anyone tried it?
+https://github.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi
+--- 93157180
+>>93144541
+windowblinds

g/93125586.txt

@@ -719,3 +719,407 @@ What are you gonna do, clone your dotfiles in the superuser account of every mac
 Flatpak exists, you know. You might even, may God forgive me for uttering this, use snap. And a lot of projects just have a standalone tarball or something on their homepage you can download and unpack.
 --- 93146370
 I start a new internship next week. I might have exaggerated and upsold my skills a little bit in my resume and interview. I've been cramming shit but I dunno if I'll be able to be prepared on time. Is it over?
+--- 93146964
+Is there a good (preferably official) explanation of windows app-specific directory uses?
+Mainly, when to use "Roaming" over "Local" and the cache cleanup policy.
+--- 93147028
+>>93143923
+Okay then. How do I do that?
+--- 93147151
+>>93128233
+>>93134719
+>>How can I get an url in javascript for a tamper monkey userscript but without prefixes like www.?
+Bumping again.
+--- 93147231
+>>93147028
+Just share a folder (right click properties sharing) and if you connect to that machine via windows explorer -> network on the other machine you'll see it
+ethernet recommended, naturally
+--- 93147250
+>>93147231
+About to head out for work so will try later, but thank you in advance should this succeed. However, the aforementioned server/second PC I'm putting the vids in is running Ubuntu. Will it still work?
+--- 93147318
+>>93147250
+ah ok, if you're the only one who uses your local network (or you trust anyone who may be on it not to dick with anything) just use method 1 from https://itsfoss.com/share-folders-local-network-ubuntu-windows/
+otherwise look at method 2 on that page, using Samba, which is no more complicated to setup than anything else on Ubuntu, but gives you a bunch of options for users & permissions
+--- 93147346
+>>93126805
+¡Ay caramba!
+--- 93147539
+>>93145662
+bump
+--- 93147558
+is there any 3rd party twitter client up to date?
+--- 93147581
+I'm looking for a site/service where I can put in a url, then require a password for someone to reveal/unlock the url, it's for a game.
+
+Basically, the idea is the person needs to identify the thing from a portion of an image, click a link, then put the name of the thing as the password and if they're right it'll forward them/link them to a page about the thing. 
+
+But I don't really know if there's a site that I can use to set that up. Most search queries get me password reset plugins and things like that.
+--- 93147621
+I have just gotten a deepcool as500 plus cooler for my ryzen 7800x3d and noticed it was running a little hot (84C on cinenench with no pbo or expo and 91C max in Far Cry 5). Upon closer inspection I saw that the screw on one of my brackets was fucked. I'm thinking of buying a new mounting kit, but the only one available in my country is the Noctua NM-AM5/4-MP83. Will this work? I've measured the distance between the screws using paper (because I don't have a ruler), and it was 85 mm. Or is that even necessary?
+--- 93147693
+Is it possible to have an animated gif as a desktop wallpaper?
+--- 93147695
+>>93147581
+Maybe this?
+https://shrtco.de/tools/password
+--- 93147702
+>>93147581
+If you're not fussed about aesthetics, a passworded Pastebin?
+--- 93147740
+>>93145797
+nothing
+toggles are retarded
+--- 93147770
+>>93147693
+I did it on xp
+--- 93147800
+>>93130681
+Open Video Downloader GitHub
+--- 93147915
+>>93125586 (OP)
+>nano
+>mostly used by people
+ftfy
+--- 93147918
+>>93147695
+
+Absolutely perfect, thank you.
+
+>>93147702
+
+Also a good idea, thanks!
+--- 93147941
+>>93125586 (OP)
+I like nano
+--- 93148163
+>>93140736
+Newly built in January, I was generous with the paste. As I mentioned my fans are linked to CPU temp in the BIOS but anything innocuous from a YT vid to even random activity in my OS can send the fans up for a bit, or keep them up. Strangely enough when I'm generating something using only VRAM the fans barely pick up, less than on YT
+--- 93148188
+>>93147918
+--- 93148325
+I'm dumb when it comes to computer wiring.
+Tell me why don't people do this?
+>Make a diagnose box, it consists of different parts a computer needed, GPU, CPU, RAM, etc
+>Connect to the faulty PC
+>Self diagnose by temporarily running the certain part on the diagnose parts, until it found the part with issue
+>E.g. running everything on PC, except using the diagnose box's GPU
+>The PC booted up and running without issue now
+>So, the problem is the PC's GPU
+Wouldn't this be super convenient and a must have for every PC repair shop?
+--- 93148429
+>>93125586 (OP)
+I cannot get php to work on rocky linux 8.7. I have a webserver, it has a SSL cert. I have php installed, I get details when I type 
+php -a then phpinfo();
+I just can't get php to work on any of the web pages.All it shows is the code I put in <?php echo "do something" ?>
+I feel like such a tard. I run the IIS webserver at work but apache is fighting me at every freaking step.
+--- 93148700
+>>93148429
+wats the current year preferred way of getting a SSL certificate?
+--- 93148754
+>>93148700
+certbot
+--- 93148877
+How do I get access to an ebook I purchased on amazon to put on a non amazon ereader? It seems like I can only access through kindle program for desktop and the files are encrypted or something.
+--- 93149325
+>>93148754
+Cool, the thing gave me two pem-files. What to do with them? Whats the preferred server software for static content?
+--- 93149338
+>>93148325
+>Tell me why don't people do this?
+Because it wouldn't actually work. Let's say you want to test for faulty RAM, so you plug your magic box into the computer and... then what? There's no protocol for the motherboard to use RAM that isn't plugged into the motherboard, and even if there was the motherboard maker certainly wouldn't have implemented it on a consumer-grade motherboard because that sort of thing costs money and the company would rather save 2c per board than enable your business model. If the RAM isn't plugged into the motherboard's RAM slots, it might as well not exist as far as the computer is concerned. You could do something LIKE that with the GPU because there are existing protocols for external GPUs, but even then you would have no way of knowing whether the fault lies in the GPU or the motherboard (maybe the PCIe slot itself isn't working, for example) without actually opening the case and trying the new GPU in the correct PCIe slot.
+
+Also, if you know what you're doing it's not that hard to narrow down where the fault lies. Motherboards have error codes for things like missing GPU or missing RAM if they fail at the boot phase. You can tell that the PSU is faulty because when you press the power button nothing happens. And so on.
+--- 93149430
+>>93149338
+Thanks for the answer.
+I just thought about it but am too dumb to figure out why nobody does it.
+Since if it's viable, surely it's already done.
+--- 93149550
+>>93142369
+Because Intel expect you to get a nvidia or AMD GPU.
+They were there only to give minimum video and that was it.
+like the new AMD IGPUs on Ryzen 7000 series.
+
+>>93143699
+Sony MDR-7506.
+Phillips SHP9500.
+
+>>93145662
+No.
+
+>>93145682
+Without soldering no.
+Just leave the keyboard there, helps in stopping dust clogging the heatsink.
+
+>>93147621
+X3D CPUs run hot as fuck by default, those are the expected temps.
+
+>>93148163
+Which heatsink you got? sounds like fucked up fan curves.
+The I5-13900K is hot as fuck and can spike from low temps to high temps while doing something simple.
+--- 93149596
+I've got about 30 SAS SSDs for free, what is the cheapest way of connecting them all to a PC? Speed isn't important
+--- 93149681
+>>93149550
+Thanks for the answer (I'm the X3D guy), still ordered the new brackets, they were like 11 bucks and I could see when applying thermal paste that one side was pushed more than the other. Hopefully they work (oh and also ordered some Artic MX4 paste, seeing as I was using the cooler thermal paste).
+--- 93149749
+>>93148429
+did you enable php in your apache ?
+ a2enmod php 
+if not, try that then restart your apache2/httpd
+--- 93149812
+>>93149681
+With all that money you could have ordered something like a Scythe Mugen.
+Also look for Arctic MX6 if you really want that 1°C less.
+--- 93149896
+>>93149596
+probably a bunch of usb to sata connectors and a massive powered hub
+--- 93149915
+>>93149896
+SAS isn't SATA
+--- 93149965
+>>93149812
+From what I've quickly glanced , the as500 plus is a little bit better at cooling, and in my country a bit cheaper too. And nah, I don't really care about 1 or 2 degrees difference IF is below 80. It's just fucking scary turning on Far Cry 5 and seeing 90C or pausing Deus Ex Mankind Divided and it running at 80C worst case.
+--- 93150134
+>>93149965
+The X3D CPUs are made to run at 90°C~ since they will run at the highest clock possible without limits, worry if you hit 95°C+.
+If you give it better cooling it will run at the same temps again, just at faster speeds.
+--- 93150292
+>>93150134
+That's fucking scary, especially considering the problems the EXPO ram currently has. Anyway thanks for the info, I'm gonna keep that in mind.
+--- 93150347
+>>93150134
+>are made to run at 90°C
+Marketing speech for "we made a cpu so hot it is expected to throttle"
+--- 93150398
+>>93150347
+that's every cpu.
+--- 93150416
+>>93150398
+Except all the ones that run cool with normal cooling
+--- 93150988
+I installed Mint to dualboot with Windows but I just got a thinkpad and plan on installing a VM instead of dualbooting to code on my PC. After I delete the Linux partition from disk management in Windows, how do I repair the Windows bootloader? My disc is GPT.
+--- 93151026
+>>93149550
+It's a 13600k and I put the BQs Dark Rock Pro 4 on it. By all accounts it's substantial enough, it's the biggest heatsink I've ever used
+--- 93151133
+>>93149325
+you dont do anything with certbot files, it automatically does everything your site should have ssl enabled now, make sure to redirect http->https traffic.
+Im using nginx for my website server side
+--- 93151205
+>>93146068
+I do not consider 8 spaces tabs good defaults but whatever.
+I do use it. It's much better than vim or other shitty terminal wannabe ide.
+you can even use macros so no problem doing repetitive tasks
+--- 93151427
+https://github.com/ekisu/mpv-webm
+When I use the crop it gives me green lines on the left and right side
+--- 93151446
+>>93149749
+a2enmod isn't a command on Rocky linux. I'll have to dig to see if it's enabled. I know it's something simple which is why i'm not overly frustrated but I am getting tired of being fought every step of the way.
+--- 93151508
+I use WSL with windows 10. I downloaded some files to my D:/ drive through git using Ubuntu with WSL. Later, I went to delete this folder using the file explorer in windows. One file in particular failed to delete, as windows claimed that it no longer existed at that location. When I tried to open the file, it made me create a new file as it said the file no longer existed. I couldn't rename the file because it didn't exist. Yet, it obviously did exist, because you could see it in the file explorer.
+To delete it I had to go to Ubuntu and rm the file.
+So I already solved the problem, but why did this even happen. I understand that different OS's have different file structures and all, but file explorer through windows saw the file in the correct location, so why could it see it but not use or delete it?
+--- 93151770
+Please explain to me in retard terms why high dpi (e.g. 4K on 27'' screen) and scaling in windows are bad.
+--- 93152133
+>>93125586 (OP)
+So I know it's popular to think people in tech are generally autistic, but does anyone else feel like QA in particular are the most autistic of the bunch? These fucking people.
+--- 93152175
+I found my old pre build PC from 2004 I had when I was a teen and was planning on removing the HDD for memories and nostalgia. As I was taking it apart I realized I didn't know what to do with some of the parts like the RAM, CPU, and PSU. Other than recycling centers, is there anything else I could do with them? I usually just gave out my old PC parts but these are way too old to do anything with. The PC stopped working and was used up until 2009, looking back I never did figure out why or what happened as I already moved on from it. I think it was the PSU thought since I had just replaced it with a newer one before it stopped working.
+--- 93152181
+>>93151770
+Things that were made to be pixel perfect on normal dpi have to be upscaled and can look blurry.
+--- 93152185
+>>93146370
+it's an intership, you're supposed to learn on the job. imo don't worry too much about it lol
+--- 93152198
+>>93152175
+Give them away for free on cragslist
+Or wait another 2 decades and sell them for profit
+--- 93152743
+>>93125586 (OP)
+Is anyone familiar with codewars? Its this website where you do these programming tasks and you level up every time you complete a task. Will this help me in becoming a better programmer? I have been doing it for a couple of days but I fell like I haven't learn shit.
+--- 93152818
+Fixing a relative's iPad. Give it to me straight /g/. How fucked am I?
+>Without knowing the password, you can't install anything. You can't even restore to factory settings.
+>There are only two ways to reset the password. One requires knowing a date of birth, which we don't know despite "we" including the person who made the account. The other requires opening an email that is sent to a recovery email. The recovery email is not known and the iPad won't give you even the slightest hint.
+>Third-party software for resetting the iPad always costs money. The ones that look like they don't only let you get as far as confirming that it can do the job if you pay.
+>iTunes has reset the iPad, but the factory-reset iPad still wants the password. This means the iPad is now a brick, because we can't get out of the setup process.
+>The Apple website gives more info about the recovery email. We now know that the first letter is "n" and the first letter after the "@" is "i". The original email is [email protected], so my best guess is that the recover account is [email protected]
+>The recover process for [email protected] requires us to enter at least one of three phone numbers. It doesn't say why. It just says we must enter them. We only suspect that we've ever owned one of them and that number is dead. We can't even find a record of what the full number was.
+
+>>93150988
+Go to /fglt/.
+
+>>93126666
+Go to /lol/
+
+>>93129028
+Be very fucking careful about what format you format the drives in to. If possible, have Windows do the formatting.
+--- 93152899
+>>93150988
+It doesn't do anything to the Windows boot loader. Just select it from your BIOS menu.
+--- 93153018
+>>93152818
+give it back
+--- 93153082
+>>93153018
+I wouldn't steal an iPad. They're too shit to steal.
+--- 93153117
+>>93152818
+Contact an Apple store with the owner present. Dig up whatever receipts or credit card statements you can from the purchase. Also look into their credit card. A lot of boomers have sick high roller CCs where the issuer will literally replace things you broke by being a retard.
+--- 93153143
+>>93153117
+>Contact an Apple store with the owner present. Dig up whatever receipts or credit card statements you can from the purchase.
+The purchase was in 2013. I've already asked and he says he doesn't have the documents.
+--- 93153153
+Dumb question: For those that charge money to fix PCs for family/neighbors. How do you go about posting your services? Do you use facebook or some sort of social media?
+--- 93153172
+>>93153143
+>2013
+It's fucking useless. Go buy another.
+--- 93153272
+does anybody know how I can switch the axis on this graph in excel? whenever I click switch row/column on chart design it just changes the colors of the bars and gets rid of the axis labels (second picrel)
+--- 93153273
+>>93153172
+I don't expect to be able to convince the Boomer of that. How much would a replacement cost? Less than £50, I hope?
+
+For what it's worth, I can tell the battery life is shit. Remind me what else usually happens with old Apple products?
+
+>>93153153
+DON'T FUCKING DO IT ANON.
+--- 93153294
+>>93153273
+why not?
+--- 93153343
+>>93153272
+--- 93153403
+>>93153294
+Once you have fixed someone's machine, you will be responsible for it for the rest of that machine's life. It does not matter what you fixed, you're now responsible for everything.
+
+>>93153343
+Isn't there a wizard for this shit?
+--- 93153437
+>>93153403
+I dunno honestly, I'm new to this excel graph shittle.
+--- 93153540
+>>93153403
+then I'll charge for a lifetime of service. what's the issue?
+--- 93153632
+I have a drive with some issues, but I think it might just be a false positive kind of thing.
+
+What happened is I was moving files from 2 drives to 2 separate drives in a USB-C dock, what happened is the one of the drives started shitting out errors saying it couldn't find the source files, and gave me SMART errors (bad sectors)
+
+I was able to make the smart errors go away by doing a full format on the drive and it went back to normal, question is why does this happen, is it just too much struggle to be running 4 drives at once, and one of them just can't keep up, or is the drive really getting ready to shit the bed?
+--- 93153958
+are there any decent altchans left? 420chan's been dead for a long time, dreamchan went down last week... /tea/ is still around but it feels like the internet is starting to get really small. i don't know where to ask this but /g/ seems like as good a place as any.
+--- 93154218
+>>93153958
+is /tea/ still advertised anywhere? A few years ago it got regularly posted on some boards
+Also what was the link again
+--- 93154316
+Does anybody know how to make a bar graph in excel that only uses one column of data, where the horizontal axis is the name of each data point, and the vertical axis measures each time a data point is repeated in the column? For example, ig you have picrel chart, the horizontal axis is the names of the fruits, and the verticle axis measures how many times each fruit is listed again.
+--- 93154334
+my c drive size keeps decreasing without me downloading or adding anything.. help
+--- 93154692
+>>93154334
+Restart to install updates
+--- 93154798
+>>93154218
+https://chakai
+.
+org/tea/
+
+very comfy
+--- 93154865
+>>93154798
+Oh wow, literally nothing about that site changed in all those years
+--- 93154873
+>>93154798
+>/tea/ is closed
+Open in 06:07:18.
+--- 93154932
+>>93154873
+yep! that's the point
+https://chakai
+.
+org/roji/
+you have ample time to prepare your tea and find a nice place to settle down
+--- 93154990
+I feel like pc's would have been a better experience overall if it had no UI and was just the terminal, no over complex bullshit applications and interfaces to cover everything up
+--- 93155009
+>>93154932
+how long is each 'session'?
+--- 93155038
+>>93154316
+Pivot table. Aggregation is ‘count’. Not exactly easy if you’ve never done it but super easy if you have
+--- 93155078
+>>93155009
+Two hours, I think.
+--- 93155079
+>>93144981
+in firefox look for "layout.css" in about:config
+--- 93155270
+>>93155038
+I didn't even know this existed, thank you desu
+also, would you happen to know how to add up all the values on the left column into one large bar instead of them all bunched up side by side?
+--- 93155286
+>>93155270
+oh fuck nvm that probably has to do with aggregate, I'll try to find that
+--- 93155565
+what hosting service should I use to host a website with very few visitors? it's just something I did to showcase my abilities to employers
+--- 93155866
+Does fast charging wear out the battery quicker than regular charging?
+--- 93156018
+>>93154798
+It's a fucking shame that 420chan shut down
+--- 93156027
+>>93155866
+Yeah
+--- 93156124
+>>93140454
+View > uncheck preview pane
+--- 93156221
+>>93153153
+>family
+Don't be a jew unless they need a part and even then you can just find an old part laying around.
+
+>neighbors
+Just don't
+--- 93156259
+>>93154990
+Well, use your pc like that then.
+--- 93156540
+>>93128233
+>>93134719
+>>93147151
+>How can I get an url in javascript for a tamper monkey userscript but without prefixes like www.?
+Bumping again.
+--- 93156648
+where does transmission hide the torrent that are deleted? i delted a bounch of torrent but free space on hard disk is the same
+--- 93156665
+>>93156648
+Check the recycle bin
+--- 93156817
+SOMEONE PLEASE TEACH ME THE FUCKERY OF USBS THAT MESSING WITH MY COMPUTER
+
+I got a new external SSD(Crucial X6) and it came with USB C to USB C gen 3.2 cable. Now my motherboard supports 3.2 gen 1 usb c, and my case header also support 3.1 gen USB C. NOW, when I plug my external SSD into the front USB C connector on my case, my pc freezes for a second, my keyboard and mouse disconnect, and the drive shows in the device manager but can't allocate it or do anything to it. Updates the BIOS, windows, my drive drivers and firmware, nothing changed. Luckily all of my other front connectors and my motherboard connectors are either USB 3.0 and higher. I plugged my external SSD to each one of my USB slots, none managed to exceed 60 MB/s which apparently USB 2.0 limits. WTF, I wondered: "red and blue outer colors represents SuperFast USB ports, so why I couldn't get past the 60MB/s" tried different cables from different phones, none worked, am starting to think that newer phones with USB type C at one end and type A are actually utilizing 2.0 speeds. I'm not good at googling or researching on stupid things like this, that's why i came here. PLZ HELP AND THX FOR ADVANCE
+--- 93157090
+>>93156817
+SPECS
+https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VbdbBj
+Ahh ohh that's pretty close to me REEEEEEEE
+https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/mag-b550-front-usb-does-not-recognize-external-hard-drives.348588/
+--- 93157107
+>>93156648
+transmission doesn't move files around unless you tell it to
+--- 93157171
+>>93125586 (OP)
+Where can I download the PDXBrowser_IPC.dll file? I can't find it anywhere?
+--- 93157285
+>>93156817
+temporarily, i bought capable cable.
+Also I'm kinda shocked at how ppl DEMANDS USB C for everything and then realize that even newer phones with usb c come at gen 2.0 speeds. thought that usb c bandwith shatters anything 3.2 gen 2 and beyond. so is all this hype for embracing USB C just for uniformity and nothing else?

g/93128294.txt

@@ -725,14 +725,6 @@ How do I fix this? I've got two GPUs in this thing:
 They can use Mesa's software rendering via llvmpipe if they really wanted to.
 I don't understand their complaint. They're complaining that it's installing drivers to utilise their hardware?
 Somehow it's a joke for doing this yet if they didn't do that they'd be complaining that it's a joke for letting everything run at 1FPS.
---- 93146509
-My tracker3 is fucked and I don't know where else to ask. It was failing to index a ton of files, so I reset everything with tracker3 reset --filesystem.
-
-Then I removed every location from the index, "tracker3 index" returns empty.
-
-Now it jumps to "indexed 498 files, 24 folders", even though no locations are supposed to be indexed. It sits there and says "Estimated less than one second left". tracker3 search / returns nothing.
-
-How is it possible for this thing to break so thoroughly that even a complete reset doesn't fix it.
 --- 93146544
 >>93145622
 Yes they are copied, I used modinfo to get their path or whether they are builtin and then I load them with modprobe. I am using an lts kernel btw, but I doubt it is the problem
@@ -749,3 +741,413 @@ is there way to edit and fix fstab entries from grub without needing full live i
 --- 93146711
 >>93146679
 Add init=/bin/bash to the cmdline or use Systemds rescue target.
+--- 93146777
+>>93146653
+Interesting, thanks anon
+--- 93147114
+Guys could you suggest an alternative app launcher for Ubuntu / Gnome ? I hate the default one. It's not easily customizable and it's made for tablets.
+
+I'd like some sort of start menu.
+--- 93147187
+>>93147114
+https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/3628/arcmenu/
+--- 93147196
+>>93147114
+GNOME has an extension called ArcMenu that you'd probably like.
+--- 93147268
+>>93147187
+>>93147196
+Looks nice thanks !
+--- 93147414
+Any issues with using KDE Plasma with picom instead of Kwin compositing?
+I want to use picom because it's more reliable for me when it comes to unredirecting fullscreen applications. I know there's no fancy effects or window borders but I don't care much anymore about that.
+--- 93147928
+Gentleman, I did it. I finally uninstalled Steam after finishing all the games I wanted to.
+I've been running Mint for a while now, started watching DistroTube and want to change to using a floating WM only. What's the most beginner friendly? He has a beg video on Openbox, so is that the one?
+I will also install Arch on a VM, since people say you learn by doing it.
+I want to get to the point that I know enough to do everything on terminal and get into self-hosting using Ubuntu Server.
+--- 93148043
+>>93147928
+OpenBox is very beginner friendly. Its XML config can be a bit annoying but it's simple to understand and you can mostly just leave it as is or copy paste a few snippets here and there.
+OpenBox "just weeks", it's very user-friendly.
+If you wanted a complete system you could check out something like LXQt.
+--- 93148321
+>>93128294 (OP)
+How do I permenetly delete files from calibre?
+They seem to go to a trash/backup directory under the library.
+--- 93148568
+>>93148043
+Alright, thanks, I'll go with it then. Just hope it's not like awesome, that made my mouse pretty laggy.
+--- 93148612
+>>93146491
+>I don't understand
+If you look closely, it's installing thing 1/6. Guess what the other 4/6 things are?
+--- 93148824
+>>93148612
+Graphics drivers, yes they're different versions of the same thing and you can blame NVIDIA for that (they're the joke here, not flatpak). It needs them all because Nvidia craps itself if the version used in a container doesn't match the exact same version used on the host.
+
+Mesa doesn't have this problem.
+--- 93148825
+>>93146653
+i wonder if you'll have to bootstrap gcc-rs from an existing rust installation like their ada compiler. i'm hoping you won't have to do that.
+--- 93148843
+>>93148825
+You won't. It can be bootstrapped from C, along with the rest of GCC.
+The long term aim is to provide proper support integrated with GCC which should also bring Rust to targets LLVM will never support.
+--- 93148889
+>>93148824
+I guess that's a problem specific to flatpak. Snaps don't seem to have this problem.
+--- 93148903
+>>93148889
+They do. They just deal with it differently in a more error prone way (instead of downloading the driver I think they try to bind-mount the copy from the host into the container which might not work properly)
+--- 93148934
+>>93148903
+>mounting
+>error prone
+How is that error prone? What do you think will happen with all those flatpaks anon is downloading, if not mounted?
+--- 93148945
+>>93140313
+imagine telling a new user he has to click on obscure menus and type shit into a terminal just to install non-proprietary packages. do you dumbasses really think that you're going to attract new users with that? maybe hobbyists who are interested, but not people who are sick of windows and switch over for ease of use
+--- 93148953
+>>93148843
+>along with the rest of GCC.
+you can't build their ada and dlang compilers from scratch, at least i haven't been able to.
+--- 93148982
+>>93148934
+It's more error prone because they don't know what the lib is on the host or where it's located. Read the source code of Snapd for all of the various hoops it jumps through and if a distro decides to put the NVIDIA libs in a different place it _will_ break.
+
+Snapd has a lot of distro specific code which it shouldn't have considering they position themselves as "universal".
+--- 93149044
+>>93142680
+XFS + LVM for NVMe, BTRFS for SATA
+
+Only caveat with BTRFS is it doesn't handle running out of space well.
+--- 93149139
+>>93148982
+>distro-specific code for distro specific differences bad
+As long as it avoids installing 5 different driver runtimes, it's miles better. 
+>crash prone
+Citation needed. What do you think happens on your OS when you update drivers and libraries, and how is that any better than a FIXED set of libraries for the lifetime of the process that snap guarantees?
+--- 93149156
+>>93144811
+just use a goddamn normal vm
+--- 93149165
+>>93149044
+As if XFS does? lmao, there was no repair utility for that garbage until very recently.
+I assume it has one now, can't be bothered to check.
+--- 93149221
+>>93148945
+we dont care
+--- 93149251
+>>93148043
+Well, I just tried it, followed what DistroTube did, changed to it. Nothing would show up on monitor 1 because everything was on monitor 2 but monitor 2 registered as not active, so had to go back to Cinnamon display settings because they don't work in Openbox, deactivate monitor 2 and go back to Openbox. Then the mouse is laggy because Openbox doesn't support HiDPI. Followed a fix in forums, didn't work. Tried another fix, didn't work. Display settings, doesn't work because it's a Cinnamon thing. While editing text files I noticed the keyboard isn't set for my language anymore, so that's another thing I'd need to fix. 
+Yeah, not beginner friendly at all if things just do not work with modern hardware and everything requires fixing and configuring.
+I'll keep using Cinnamon for now.
+--- 93149312
+>>93145985
+Ridiculous. If you're losing metadata you have a disk controller problem.
+--- 93149503
+>>93148321
+I have a folder with nothing but trash files taking up my HDD but I don't wanna damage calibre's database by running rm -rf on calibre's trash folder.
+Does anyone know what to do here?
+--- 93149515
+I just built a brand new computer with a 6700 XT but for some reason I can not get the accelerated graphics to work, I am on MX Linux. I thought that AMD cards would automatically work through the drivers built into the kernel. I updated the driver for the graphics through the debian backport, and checked grub for nomodeset but did not see that command. What do?
+--- 93149552
+>>93149165
+No, they had xfs_repair since it was ported over in '00
+--- 93149569
+>>93149515
+You need the blobs too you know. Consult your package management or pull the missing files from
+https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git
+--- 93149691
+>>93149312
+>coping with reality
+The data was lost because the filesystem was corrupt after a crash. If you ever used ext2 (or XFS up to RHEL 7) then you'll know what that is.
+Don't make things up, it looks bad.
+--- 93149706
+>>93149552
+It definitely didn't work in 2009, I remember how garbage it was and could damage the filesystem even more.
+--- 93149717
+>>93149515
+dmesg | grep -i firmware
+--- 93149721
+>>93149569
+I updated the only thing that appeared for AMD graphics in the package manager, through the debian backport. Didn't see anything else in there besides for CPUs.
+--- 93149727
+is there any way to move playlists up and down in the playlist view of cmus?
+--- 93149757
+>>93149727
+increase your font size until at least one playlist isn't visible and then scroll up and down
+--- 93149760
+>>93149717
+What does this do?
+--- 93149788
+>>93149706
+Yeah, if you have defective hardware doing crazy shit, it's very likely running a repair tool will damage things even worse. That goes for any filesystem. It's why they have a separate xfs_scrub tool that xfs_repair forces you to run when you have bad metadata checksums. Because you've reached a point where they take no responsibility for your bullshit hardware.
+--- 93149793
+>>93149721
+Sorry, not a Debian expert so I wouldn't know what they call their firmware packages. If they even provide it.
+You have anything in /lib/firmware/amdgpu? May sound crazy but you can literally just slap the blobs in there, they are nothing but binaries the kernel modules upload to the device.
+>>93149760
+Greps "firmware" case-insensitively from dmesg.
+--- 93149824
+>>93149760
+dmesg is the command to print the kernel log, coupled with the pipe to grep it just searches through the log for any case-insensitive (-i option) mention of "firmware"
+--- 93149885
+>>93149691
+I too blew up a ton of ext2 in the 90s. ext2 didn't have atomic metadata transactions though. It was basically same shit as FAT32 on Win9x. XFS has a metadata journal like ext3 and NTFS. Metadata transactions on these are atomic unless your hardware is defective or you enable writeback cache somewhere. Either way it's user / hardware error.
+--- 93150389
+Where can I find the JS API for Kwin desktop effects?
+I can't find anything about it on the KDE website.
+--- 93150909
+Want to host static content and have HTTPS, what do? Already have the certificate pem files.
+--- 93150960
+>>93149793
+Honestly I may just install Ubuntu and see if it works right off the bat, don't feel like dealing with too much headache over this. Especially since the drivers are built into the kernel. I really do like MX though, I was reading and people recommended to install the AHS version since it has a later release
+--- 93150977
+I installed Mint to dualboot on my desktop but I just got a thinkpad and plan on installing a VM instead of dualbooting to code on my PC. After I delete the Linux partition from disk management in Windows, how do I repair the Windows bootloader? My disc is GPT.
+--- 93150980
+is there a way to specify an install location for software from a package manager(apt)? So far I have had to jump through a few hops to to modify some programs "owned" by root.
+--- 93151003
+>>93150960
+Bro you are just missing the firmware blobs. The drivers are covered it's just the blobs you are missing. Check out your dmesg, the drivers will complain about missing blobs right there.
+--- 93151080
+>>93151003
+Alright I will give it a try, are these the blobs? >>93149569
+--- 93151361
+I always see these nice looking system monitors in desktop thread for linux. I would prefer to see my system usage and maybe even temps. Anyone have a favorite?
+--- 93151558
+>>93128294 (OP)
+Does anyone know a place to get stupid gaudy cursor icons? Like the ugly flashing ones you'd download as a kid on Windows XP back in 2002 and you'd get 3 viruses and a browser toolbar along with them. That's what I want, except without the viruses and toolbar.
+--- 93151653
+>>93128294 (OP)
+I'm running Manjaro and am learning that a lot of programs that say they have "Linux" support actually only support Debian or Red Hat distros with .deb or .rpm files.
+
+Is there a standard way to get .deb or .rpm installers to be compatible with Arch distros like Manjaro? Similar to how Wine provides a compatibility layer to let me occasionally use Windows applications.
+
+I checked the FAQ on the Arch wiki and was surprised this wasn't a common enough question to be covered there.
+--- 93151679
+>>93151558
+Gnome-Look is probably your best resource:
+>https://www.gnome-look.org/browse?cat=107&ord=latest
+
+I think they also have sections for other desktop environments like KDE and XFCE as well.
+--- 93151716
+>>93151653
+can you give an example?
+--- 93151815
+>>93151653
+That's what the AUR is for. There's no set procedure for installing one type of package on another manager because the semantics are different and these things can run scripts. You can also extract the contents with 7z and install it manually. They tend to keep 'universal' packages simple to minimize odds of breakage.
+--- 93151887
+For me, it's Ubuntu. The "just works" Linux distro.
+--- 93151893
+>>93151679
+This is perfect. Exactly what I wanted.
+I am going to make my cursor into a banana
+Thank you for your help
+--- 93151975
+can i run all my current programs with wayland? i use xorg right now on debian. i don't want to switch a single program. is this possible? for example i use dwm and st. will they work with wayland without switching to some other hack program?
+
+or is wayland a meme and i should just ignore it for now?
+--- 93152143
+>>93151975
+XWayland provides compatibility with Xorg applications. You should be able to run st no problem at all.
+
+You should be able to run dwm too but running an X11 Window Manager inside of XWayland is a really stupid idea. You should use the Wayland port of dwm (dwl) instead.
+--- 93152165
+>>93151716
+The specific example I had was MapTool:
+>https://www.rptools.net/toolbox/download-rptools-products/
+
+The website only has .deb and .rpm installers. But after a bit more digging I found their git repo is more up-to-date and has .pkg.tar.zst packages for Arch installations. So this specific example is no longer an issue for me.
+
+>>93151815
+I'll do a bit more reading on package managers since it seems like it'd be helpful. I'm still relatively new to AUR/Pacman/Pamac since I learned the basics of GNU/Linux on Debian and started regularly using Arch distros last year. 
+
+I've been pleasantly surprised at how many programs have simple AppImages or FlatPak installers
+--- 93152205
+>>93152143
+>You should be able to run dwm too but running an X11 Window Manager inside of XWayland is a really stupid idea. You should use the Wayland port of dwm (dwl) instead.
+i'm not going to switch my programs, that's stupid. so i can run the actual dwm package under wayland then?
+--- 93152256
+>>93152205
+Yes, but you're not using Wayland at that point if you're going to run applications inside of dwm nested under XWayland you're gaining absolutely nothing. You're better off continuing to use the Xorg server for X11.
+--- 93152259
+>>93152165
+>MapTool
+Yeah, that's in the AUR. If it isn't in the AUR, your second best bet is compiling it yourself.
+--- 93152281
+>>93152256
+i wouldn't gain some smoothness? or tear fix?
+--- 93152292
+>>93152281
+You would but you can also fix that via driver options in your Xorg.conf
+--- 93152328
+>>93152281
+You could just fix your tearing by using picom
+Best compositor I used on xorg, it fixes a problem all other compositors have
+--- 93152458
+>>93152205
+In practice using a full WM under xwayland is pretty herky. Maybe try Hyprland. Full stack is less bloated than Xorg+dwm+picom.
+--- 93153510
+>>93152328
+if i normally just startx, and i install picom, what extra things do i need to do to use picom? or will it just work automatically? don't know how compositors work exactly do i need to exec it in .xinitrc? or do i execute the compositor instead of startx?
+--- 93153538
+I know btrfs is a meme if used on a NAS or with RAID, but is it safe using it as a PC's main FS instead of ext4?
+--- 93153773
+>>93153510
+You just need to autostart the command picom -b whichever way you autostart other processes
+You can copy the example .conf file to your .config folder and then edit it to make it look better
+If you use MATE however, you need to change the compositor to Marco (picom whatever) in MATE Tweak and rename the picom.conf file to marco-picom.conf. If you ever use KDE, there's an option to enable the compositor at launch (which is the default) you need to untick if you want to replace KWin composition with picom
+--- 93153909
+Dumb question but: should I reinstall the nvidia-driver after installing a new graphics card ? I got a 4070ti but I'm still getting horrible perfomance in old ass games and some graphic application in 4k. I'm on debian 11 with the latest version of nvidia-driver btw
+--- 93154026
+I'm running arch with kde and lbrewolf stopped rendering text. No clue what caused it, websites load mostly fine (although some things are also missing like the text on the "get captcha" button, but any kind of internal menus or text in the search bar or tabs is completely blank. I tried installing regular firefox and it doesn't have this issue, I tried renaming the .librewolf folder so it makes a completely fresh and config and it doesn't work, I've uninstalled and reinstalled it and it doesn't work.
+--- 93154119
+All of a sudden Any video or audio file / web stream in any combination of Wayland / x gnome / KDE ends up a choppy mess, It just started happening last night for no reason.
+It started happening somewhat after I reinstalled discord this morning ,but the last thing I did before that was install grabber, Any ideas? 
+ 
+ [2023-04-28T21:47:20-0400] [ALPM] transaction started
+[2023-04-28T21:47:20-0400] [ALPM] installed imgbrd-grabber (7.10.1-3)
+[2023-04-28T21:47:20-0400] [ALPM] transaction completed
+[2023-04-28T21:47:20-0400] [ALPM] running '30-systemd-update.hook'...
+[2023-04-28T21:47:20-0400] [ALPM] running '90-packagekit-refresh.hook'...
+[2023-04-28T21:47:20-0400] [ALPM] running 'gtk-update-icon-cache.hook'...
+[2023-04-28T21:47:20-0400] [ALPM] running 'update-desktop-database.hook'...
+[2023-04-28T21:47:21-0400] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -D -q --asexplicit --config /etc/pacman.conf -- imgbrd-grabber'
+[2023-04-30T23:54:59-0400] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -R discord'
+[2023-04-30T23:55:00-0400] [ALPM] transaction started
+[2023-04-30T23:55:00-0400] [ALPM] removed discord (0.0.27-1)
+[2023-04-30T23:55:00-0400] [ALPM] transaction completed
+[2023-04-30T23:55:00-0400] [ALPM] running '30-systemd-update.hook'...
+[2023-04-30T23:55:00-0400] [ALPM] running '90-packagekit-refresh.hook'...
+[2023-04-30T23:55:00-0400] [ALPM] running 'update-desktop-database.hook'...
+[2023-05-01T00:18:59-0400] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -S --config /etc/pacman.conf -- community/discord'
+
+--- 93154152
+>>93144633
+Welcome to linux
+--- 93154209
+>>93154152
+I just wish I knew why XFCE can't do this, or at least have a plugin that does it. I guess I could use something like polybar, but then I don't know how to set up a notification history panel on it like the one on XFCE.
+--- 93154399
+>>93151887
+nah Ubuntu is a corporation shit, Fedora is more like a "just work" distro
+--- 93154416
+>>93154119
+I can put load on the CPU/GPU via a game, so it's gotta be some sort of decoder problem right?
+--- 93154741
+>>93150977
+You don't have to repair anything, each OS has a separate bootloader and you select the one you want to boot in your motherboard's boot menu.
+
+>>93151558
+https://www.pling.com/browse?cat=107&ord=latest
+
+>>93151653
+Something like `alien`?
+--- 93154812
+>>93153538
+It's fine, even in RAID1 it's perfectly safe.
+
+>>93154399
+>no drivers or codecs
+>"just works"
+Sure bud, and Fedora is not corporate at all... Oh wait, it's literally Red Hat's project.
+--- 93154844
+>>93153538
+You don't use btrfs on top of raid because btrfs is the raid. Lots of NAS appliances are built on btrfs.
+>is it safe using it as a PC's main FS instead of ext4?
+Yes, of course.
+--- 93155788
+is there an alternative to hydrapaper? since upgrading to 44 it doesn't seem to be working
+--- 93155845
+Rate.
+
+━━━━━━━━━━ john@localhost ~
+           ━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ▷ systemd-analyze blame
+8.432s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
+6.287s plymouth-quit-wait.service
+2.062s systemd-udev-settle.service
+1.218s dracut-initqueue.service
+1.036s kdump.service
+ 809ms udisks2.service
+ 791ms initrd-switch-root.service
+ 732ms firewalld.service
+ 364ms power-profiles-daemon.service
+ 363ms polkit.service
+ 337ms accounts-daemon.service
+ 308ms smartd.service
+ 236ms ModemManager.service
+ 221ms microcode.service
+ 218ms logrotate.service
+ 216ms packagekit.service
+ 183ms chronyd.service
+ 179ms unbound-anchor.service
+ 165ms mnt-ubuntu.mount
+ 158ms home.mount
+ 149ms [email protected]
+ 125ms dbus-broker.service
+ 123ms boot.mount
+ 120ms avahi-daemon.service
+ 118ms sssd-kcm.service
+ 109ms rsyslog.service
+
+--- 93155906
+After yet another update, installing a bunch of garbage on openSUSE TW and getting shit like grub to be slow as molasses and my browser and panels to behave very randomly, then restoring another snapshot once again, I'm considering maybe rolling releases are not for me (already used arch for a long time as well). However I also had issues with debian/ubuntu based distros in the past, both dealing with apt and with PPAs. Should I go with Fed ora? I'm going to be using Xfce.
+--- 93155940
+>>93155906
+fedora is great
+--- 93156023
+>>93155845
+>plymouth
+maximum bloat
+>kdump
+you don't have a contract with redhat/canonical/someone to send kernel dumps to
+--- 93156521
+Is it possible for malware to completely hide itself from commands like lsof, iotop or even something like wireshark?
+Also what tools/commands would you recommend for someone trying to audit their own system on a regular basis?
+thank
+--- 93156803
+>>93156521
+You can replace utilities with your own when infecting a system so it only shows you what you want it to show the user. I have seen a rootkit that did this.
+
+char * g15[12] = {
+    "/bin/netstat",
+    "/bin/lsof",
+    "/bin/ps",
+    "/bin/ss",
+    "/usr/bin/netstat",
+    "/usr/bin/lsof",
+    "/usr/bin/ps",
+    "/usr/bin/ss",
+    "/usr/sbin/netstat",
+    "/usr/sbin/lsof",
+    "/usr/sbin/ps",
+    "/usr/sbin/ss"
+}; // 0x8131cc0
+
+--- 93156841
+>>93156521
+Here is an example. Decompiled C code.
+
+http://securitronlinux.com/files/sfewfesfs.c.gz
+--- 93156853
+>>93128752
+Stop partitioning. Absolutely no need.
+--- 93157098
+>running endeavour well for a few months
+>Foolishly running Nvidia, but it weeks
+>KDE
+>Systemd-boot
+>Try to add japanese input (moszc)
+>Logout and login
+>Login freezes(?)
+>Mouse can move, but can't click any of the buttons
+>Try to open up tty2 to troubleshoot
+>Get the boot info dump but can't do any input, not getting a terminal
+What do I try at this point? Changing boot parameters?
+--- 93157220
+>>93154026
+does librewolf complain about anything when you run it in a terminal?
+maybe try refreshing the font cache?
+fc-cache -vf

g/93129203.txt

@@ -339,3 +339,104 @@ I got this pair for home, as I've got wireless lapel mics and shitty headphones
 Can recommend them, only downside I've found is that the cups are just a little shallow and if they sit wrong, can touch your ears and be uncomfortable, but I wear them for like 3-5 hour periods at work they're comfortable enough. 
 Sound is good, bass shakes my balls, I don't really get any audio peaking but I also listen at very low volumes 90% of the time and these are perfect levels for me. The auto play -pause function is really great for me.
 Oh before I forget, there's active noise cancelling, but it may as well not exist, it's fucking trash.
+--- 93147607
+>>93129366
+those should be used as emergency usb irons. Like the ones you keep in a car or bike tool bag not meant for regular use
+--- 93147959
+bros i was somehow browsing an old thread
+>>92935636 →
+looks like she has a booger hangin out
+>>92943722 →
+>>92943764 →
+strap it around your arm like a yugioh arm device
+pls take a pic doing it and post
+>>93146200
+How big are your ears on a scale of mouse to elephant? I need a new headset as the one i have is about to snap from it's cable.
+--- 93148141
+>>93147959
+thats a nose piercing anon
+--- 93148344
+>>93141357
+if you're curious i got a pair almost two months ago now, they're working fine so far. But it takes more than that for drift to show up, especially in my case since on my og sticks it took 2 years for them to drift
+--- 93148475
+>Talking to a seller on taobao
+>Using broken google translate chinese
+>He keeps ending his sentences with 亲亲
+Is this some kind of greeting?
+--- 93148480
+Cheapest not-shit mmcx cable with L shaped jack that's not bulky?
+--- 93148580
+>>93148475
+Adding on to this. With regards to sellers who have all their info on an image, is the way to go google lens?
+--- 93148899
+Could you recommend me some tips with good sealing for my IEM?
+No foam stuff, they get dirty too quick.
+--- 93149501
+>>93148899
+I do a ghetto thing where I use silicone ear plugging putty. I pull off a small piece, roll it up into a long work thing, then make a ring in the under part of my silicone earbud tips and that helps keep it in my ear and blocks sound.
+--- 93149625
+Test
+--- 93149773
+>>93148480
+how about this one?
+https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003665235378.html
+mainly i often replacement cables at openheart or xinhs cable stores
+--- 93151127
+>>93149625
+tested
+--- 93151543
+>>93148475
+With that (lack of) context, the closest I can give you is chink for xoxoxo
+--- 93152481
+How trustworthy are chink SSDs? I see them being cheap and I need one for game installs. I wanna get a 2TB drive but I read stories about them failing and stuff too so I get worried. However name brand SSDs are like $50-100 more expensive too for the same amount of storage.
+--- 93152698
+>>93152481
+I have bought a shitload of Kingspecs (like 50?) they're still up and running. never had any issues with them. 
+They're all DRAMless unless you pay about 50% more to get the few models with DRAM. I find the obsession with DRAM a bit of a meme, it is not really worth it on SATA and not worth it at all on NVME unless you know you are going to do a shitload of writes on that drive.
+--- 93152764
+>>93152698
+Thanks, I bought it then.
+--- 93153584
+>chang left me on read
+bros I'm getting PTSD from dating
+--- 93154043
+I need a really shiny flash light for video production, I've seen some that you can control the apperture
+
+can /csg/ help me with it?
+--- 93154370
+>>93148480
+>>93148899
+see
+>>93142374 →
+--- 93155092
+I'm heading to China soon (Shanghai), for a short student exchange semester. Any absolutely inane shit that should not be allowed but is the envy of all electromagnetic turd collectors that I should buy while there?
+--- 93156153
+>>93145854
+Don't hate on chemical green, it's the color of my thermo NIGGER
+--- 93156173
+New watch came, I'm glad San Martin is experimenting with some small variations on their core homage business.
+--- 93156245
+>>93155092
+>holly shit he is the chang chosen one!
+dude you need to discover that yourself. Other than the chink posters here, we don't know what there is actually there.
+--- 93156737
+>>93129203 (OP)
+
+Do the sellers know when someone either wishlists/add in cart one of their products? 
+Especially the kind of products that isnt popular and have like 1~2 orders.
+
+Im asking this because i added a laptop battery to my cart a week ago
+And then today i found out the seller has increased the price of it for some reason
+
+I was pissed off so i just deleted it from my cart and looked for another seller
+--- 93156782
+Is there some chink shit raspberry pi like device i can use that has a hdmi 2.1 for me to get atmos sound into my tv then into my sound system through eARC?
+--- 93157146
+>>93156782
+Orange pi
+--- 93157195
+>>93129203 (OP)
+Are there any discount codes available or is it just a Choice Day sale?
+--- 93157317
+>>93157146
+thank you chang

g/93130939.txt

@@ -287,3 +287,193 @@ The irony being that ESR is the only one who isn't actually a freedom-hating sac
 --- 93145494
 >>93131171
 based
+--- 93147559
+>>93144693
+explain what would be better? rust? lmao
+--- 93147655
+>>93135372
+I haven't seen a single browser with it
+--- 93147735
+>>93144383
+The only way to use userContent.css effectively is to use Firefox's remote debugging, but the code editor for it doesn't have any form of autocompletion.
+Also, how do you install other people's styles to modify on your own? In stylus, you just click "find styles".
+--- 93147757
+>>93138561
+>uMatrix is years out of date now.
+No need to fix what isn't broken.
+It blocks everything it says it blocks. Just because it doesn't have daily updates doesn't mean it doesn't work.
+--- 93148183
+>>93147757
+It's not fully functional, e.g. the sync feature is broken while the uBlock one was fixed. However, most of the core functionality still works and there's no superior alternative, so no need to just drop it entirely.
+--- 93148594
+>>93148465
+Kek. This is great.
+--- 93148981
+>>93142313
+how is that larp? they actually offer cash discount because it saves them the 3% jewish credit card fee, when you leave your mom's basement you'll see using cash for the majority of your transactions makes sense
+--- 93149012
+>>93147655
+This. Can't live without my reverse image search menu.
+--- 93149310
+>>93148981
+ACH transactions and personal checks also have no fees. No one goes in person to pay in cash, even people who avoid electronic transactions of any kind will mail the payments in.
+--- 93149527
+>>93138674
+Good thing he apologized. The mother is also very understanding.
+--- 93149682
+>>93141623
+echo /*me*
+/home
+
+--- 93149842
+>>93141292
+Well, I have an account so my taxes this year was pressing a button, which in fact is actually optional, because it is just accepted at the end of the deadline anyway.
+I also did my driving license renewal online, I just sat in front of a white wall in my home for 15 minutes while the lady instructed me on how to hold my phone to get a photo good enough for identification, it was in the mail next week.
+So yeah, I guess we really.
+--- 93149880
+>>93149688
+Do normies really think this way?
+I mean, the entire reason is so it won't be logged on history and cache.
+--- 93149887
+>>93147517
+--- 93149926
+>>93149880
+Yes. A disturbing number of people think incognito mode is the equivalent to what movies would have you believe tor is.
+--- 93150006
+>>93141401
+I used to use that but I the standard youtube layout sucks for shorts, especially the ones that abuse the loop behavior, so now I just do this:
+ytd-reel-video-renderer:nth-of-type(n+2) {
+    display: none;
+}
+
+--- 93150011
+>>93149688
+haha
+--- 93150099
+>>93149688
+>>93149880
+>have been living alone for 5 years now
+>still open a private browsing window when it's time to jerk off
+It just doesn't feel right otherwise.
+--- 93150133
+>>93149887
+>>93147517
+--- 93150420
+>>93150384
+>It if works, it ain't stupid.
+No seriously, these are 20-40€ used monitors on eBay, I ain't spending the same money just to have a VESA mount.
+--- 93150445
+>>93130939 (OP)
+it's literally me
+--- 93150569
+>>93149310
+>personal checks also have no fees
+Not entirely true, it requires additional time for an employee to process it. 
+
+>No one goes in person to pay in cash
+I know a lot of people in my area who do this, myself included.
+--- 93150752
+>>93144741
+yes, but any joe schmo can be a decent programmer and a freedom lover. RMS and Torvalds are in a programming league of their own
+--- 93150997
+>>93141826
+--- 93151064
+>>93147559
+Oh gee I wonder what's less complicated than C++ but still has all the base functionality I need oh wait a minute it's fucking C
+--- 93151866
+>>93131029
+My list. Had Violentmonkey at some point, but since I currently I'm not using any script I deleted I think <_<
+--- 93151910
+>>93149688
+It doesn't even make sense. He doesn't want to tell the browser where to navigate?
+--- 93152005
+>>93151910
+>Autism: The Post
+--- 93152047
+>>93152005
+Yeah, but even autistic posts make sense in their own way. That one just doesn't.
+--- 93152078
+>>93130939 (OP)
+>>93131171
+>>93131650
+>>93137597
+>>93137558
+None of these are funny
+
+>>93137578
+This one is funny
+--- 93152389
+>>93150384
+I did something similar to my monitors that didn't have vesa. But I instead took the back panel off and screwed the mounting plates onto them from the inside out.
+--- 93152415
+>>93150519
+that isnt technology
+--- 93152890
+>>93144078
+Could it be the Inferno version of ACME?
+--- 93153073
+>>93152078
+>None of these are funny
+--- 93153465
+>>93152415
+How are image sensors not technology?
+--- 93153579
+>>93149688
+For me it's more my current logins than the browser itself, I don't want sites to have an easier time tracking me (or see my email get pulled automatically for "easier commenting" on some obscure site, which happened once).
+--- 93154091
+>>93132479
+By the context I assume this is a filter for those cookie banners.
+--- 93154114
+>>93135441
+>Apple is the most dedicated big tech corp for privacy
+Will believe that if they release the source code of MacOS.
+--- 93154258
+>>93152985
+where's the CIA signature at the bottom?
+--- 93154477
+>>93153150
+What if I want to set up a proxy but I don't live near a port?
+--- 93154675
+>>93141401
+No you're supposed to filter shorts with ublock if you're not a zoomer nigger
+--- 93154682
+>>93140922
+how should I use my CAD design program if not with a GUI? one thing is "dont use desktop environments", but GUIs have their legitimate purposes
+--- 93154739
+>>93151910
+he doesnt want Google (tm) know where he wants to go
+--- 93154815
+>>93153074
+my best guess it that since USB ports go at 5V, he is using 30 * 5 = 150V to use that heat pan
+--- 93155277
+>>93154815
+No, you can't do that with a computer's USB (in fact you'd cause a short circuit if you connected one +5V to the 0V/GND of the next USB and kill those ports).
+He's using 30 * 500mA (current allowed per USB port) = 15A, i.e. connecting all +5Vs and all GNDs together in parallel.
+This yields him 5V*15A = 75W of power.
+--- 93155508
+>>93143810
+The joke is that it's hell to make it do what you want sometimes, and when you finally get it to it'll usually feel like a hack.
+
+>>93148465
+That's actually kinda cool desu.
+--- 93155714
+>>93151064
+>just reinvent the wheel bro, are you stoopeed?
+lol, lmao even
+--- 93155791
+>>93155714
+quit it with your meme replies. If you cant understand things when the abstraction breaks you're fucking useless
+
+https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/11/11/the-law-of-leaky-abstractions/
+--- 93156980
+>>93155791
+never said I didn't understand abstractions, I reinvented the wheel already in C to learn about all that
+there is no need to keep reinventing the wheel if you can just study it and use it to your needs
+--- 93157166
+>>93156980
+Well if you studied it, then use it. The phrase "Reinventing the wheel" is too broad for what C++ can give compared to what C can give. It isn't hard to extend the functionality of C to what you need without the terrible overhead and confusion of C++. Go ahead and defend the COBOL of the 21st century if you want
+--- 93157402
+>>93157166
+if you think using c is any better than using c++ or java for any matter, then you might need a read from the same source you gave
+https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2001/12/11/back-to-basics/
+there is no need to keep reimplementing things yourself, if in the end, you will implement the same thing as what java developers already did

g/93131371.txt

@@ -110,3 +110,30 @@ wtf did jannies really went after loli
 OCLP
 --- 93145169
 why do jannies hate nakadashi so much
+--- 93147351
+>>93145169
+Janny hate board culture >:( janny like macOS, soijak, and drinking cum
+--- 93148549
+>>93145169
+They are offended by displays of heterosexuality
+--- 93150585
+>>93145029
+yes
+--- 93151117
+>>93141412
+>. in my ~/.local/bin i have dozens of scripts that in many cases wouldnt be possible in macos. i
+Wait, why not?
+t. never used itoddlerOS
+--- 93151511
+>>93148549
+--- 93151540
+>>93151511
+gooood kitty
+--- 93153060
+>>93148549
+>((((((((((they))))))))))))
+--- 93154685
+>>93148549
+--- 93156252
+>>93153060
+yes

g/93132998.txt

@@ -744,3 +744,250 @@ Anon, do I have to spoon feed you the cracked version?
 Pretty much is.
 Windows 10 is an insufferable piece of shit and marks the downfall of Windows, but LTSC makes it somewhat bearable if staying on 7 is no longer viable for you.
 I like to use a modified LTSC .iso for when I do have to use it, have a look at the /fwt/ for the ltsc guide. Though you can just use the normal LTSC .iso and you'll be fine desu.
+--- 93148292
+>>93134911
+What's the matter goy? you already have the most bloated spyware OS after the release of SP1.
+Windows NT family is a bloated pile of spyware released by (((Microsoft)))
+Kneel only to the superior version of Windows NT of the Microsoft Windows Family
+--- 93148323
+>>93148292
+Brainlet
+--- 93148351
+>>93148292
+>>93148323
+>make retro "still sticking with windows nt x" memes
+>don't even write the caption in times new roman or ms sans serif
+How do you sleep at night being such abject failures
+--- 93148444
+>>93148351
+--- 93148761
+>>93136784
+People are waiting for Windows 12 just like they waited for 10. Windows 7 died pretty quickly afterwards.
+--- 93148988
+>>93142480
+>>93142526
+>literal retards
+sigh
+--- 93149014
+>>93148323
+based. keyed, even
+--- 93149324
+Not my problem
+--- 93149424
+The final solution to the /v/toddler problem
+--- 93149495
+You DO own your PC games on bluray right /g/?
+You aren't a steam cuck right?
+--- 93149560
+>noooo windows 7 was so good
+If it was so good, why can't it run DirectX 12 games?
+--- 93149861
+despite making up only 1,3 percent of the population retards with archaic windows versions make up 50% of all shitty threads
+--- 93149866
+>>93149560
+>why can't it run DirectX 12 games?
+artificially gimped by MS
+--- 93149988
+>>93134835
+corporatism*
+--- 93150021
+>>93149560
+But it can with vkd3d
+--- 93150248
+>>93148444
+lmao
+--- 93150353
+>>93136295
+I have a full head of hair, thank you very much.
+--- 93150588
+>>93139935
+Not that anon but you're essentially doing the same thing by simulating fake obstacles and designed puzzles that even a child can overcome consistently. I like video games too but to pretend they're more than entertainment is exactly why a huge majority of them are hot trash now. The immersion element is cool, I would much rather be in a war or recklessly drive a car in a virtual environment. There is no way I would consider it best anything, just like most other art it's endgame is repetitive discussion of the human experience people fail to learn over and over again. Its nice for a short interesting diversion but to be obsessed with it long-term is just braindead consumerism. Programming is draining too but at least you're flexing your brain in significantly more interesting ways when you create rather than consume, so if I had to choose to sit in front of a computer all day I'd rather create.
+--- 93150613
+why do consoomtards compulsively give money to evil companies?
+--- 93150714
+You guys don't understand. This is a good thing.
+>Valve fixes Linux and makes it better than Shitblows
+>Valve now makes the push to kill any use case for Windows left, to save YOU and make you switch to Loonix
+Come home, white man
+--- 93150799
+>>93150714
+linux desktop still sucks ass in 2023 though
+--- 93150813
+>>93150714
+can steamOS run anything besides videogames
+--- 93150879
+>>93150799
+Explain why. It's less buggy than Shitblows when it comes to very generic user operations (which in my case is randomly repeatedly activating caps lock, and some system settings randomly reverting to old values for no apparent reason and without pattern), and the logic used in Linux systems makes far more sense than Windows'. W7 used to work fine but that doesn't support directx 12 which is a dealbreaker for me
+
+>>93150813
+Yeah it's just an offshoot of Arch personalized for Steam but other than that it's just Loonix
+--- 93150935
+>>93150714
+>valve makes it so 40% of software and 0% of drivers work on troonix
+>this makes troonix better than windows
+I hope this is just the head trauma talking.
+--- 93150961
+>>93150879
+>Double click Fortnite
+>Doesn't work
+>Double click Microsoft Office
+>Doesn't work
+How does an operating system that can't run the most popular game and program not suck?
+--- 93151020
+>>93139935
+Any good videogame runs on W7
+--- 93151078
+>>93150935
+TOP OF THE MORNING SIR
+
+>>93150961
+1. Unless you're underaged and thus your opinion wouldn't matter, why would you want to play Fortnite? That's only a hypothetical question, because you can play Fortnite on Linux just fine
+
+2. There is no legitimate use case for using Microsoft Office products unless you work in an enterprise setting, in which case your IT department should have systems in place for you to remote into their Windows systems where you can use your Office products. Furthermore, you shouldn't even want to put Microshit's spyware on your personal devices.
+
+For the only other office use case (making a CV to get said job), even a basic text editor is sufficient. You don't want a job where people value how pretty you make your resume look more than the actual contents of your resume.
+--- 93151114
+>>93150961
+Who cares about Fortnite besides brainless kids without a good taste 
+
+Also Linux desktop is way better if you just put in time customising and finding out what you like and how you like them
+--- 93151152
+>>93151078
+>because you can play Fortnite on Linux just fine
+Lol, don't lie.
+Fortnite is fun. You are, without doubt, underage if you think childish things have no value.
+--- 93151221
+>>93145597
+https://github.com/Gictorbit/photoshopCClinux
+https://github.com/Gictorbit/illustratorCClinux
+if you don't care about shady scripts
+--- 93151241
+>>93151152
+Childish things do have value, but Fornite isn't childish. It's the very definition of "digital goyslop", and anyone involved with it be it players or developers, must have their internet license revoked for the rest of their lives.
+--- 93151268
+The point isn’t that it’s childish, it’s that it’s just not a good game anyone above the age of 14 would play on a regular basis
+--- 93151307
+>>93138496
+>>/v/
+go back
+--- 93151343
+>>93151241
+this
+minecraft is surely childish, but it's nature has made it into an immortal game
+--- 93151347
+>>93132998 (OP)
+just upgrade to fedora
+--- 93151419
+>>93151268
+oops forgot to quote >>93151241
+--- 93151667
+>>93135454
+these retards think the UI is the only problem with windows 10/11
+I wouldn't mind using Windows 8.1 instead of 7 but since it's losing support at the same rate, it's pointless to switch to it.
+--- 93151701
+>>93132998 (OP)
+>mfw I chose to switch to Linux in 2016 rather than downgrade to Windows 10
+Your kind cling to Windows 7, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the outdated OS you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Tux is immortal.
+--- 93151969
+>>93143547
+there are a lot of macfags sticking with mojave because it's the last version that supports 32 bits programs
+--- 93151996
+>>93151152
+Faggots will unironically quote C.S. Lewis to justify something like wearing a diaper and acting like a baby at 40 years old. It is insufferably smug "LET PEPOLE ENJOY THINGS, CHUD" Redditor shit and I am sick and tired of seeing it.
+
+There's a difference between being based and not caring what others think, an ADULT that still sees the value in childish things like stories and fantasy, and being an actually childish cringelord who really and truly never matured past childhood.
+People who follow in the spirit of this C.S. Lewis quote would be like someone who still loves Thomas the Tank Engine, but that love has matured to the point that they could create a new show that children could enjoy. Those that follow the letter would be the kind of low-functioning autist that still enjoys Thomas the Tank Engine with the exact same emotional maturity that they did at 5 and 10 years old and makes terrible fan fiction and art of the trains fucking on deviantart.
+--- 93152093
+>>93142480
+>the companies leveled by western imperial powers and propped up in artifical economies did the things there 20 years ago lol
+
+yeah because those were testing grounds for these changes, not because the koreans wanted it or were fine with it. and who the fuck spoke to koreans in 2001? mmorpg players? thats like pretending its normal to shit in the street because you talk to the indian ceo of microshart in 2023 you faggot.
+--- 93152189
+>>93142526
+>haha these stupid people dont know their worst case scenario is actually real therefore they are... correct
+
+what exactly are you trying to communicate here. How is someone stupid if what they are saying is true? And they did have disk drives and shit in korea in 2001, stop being retarded. It's china that skipped pcs and went straight to phones, japan had a wonky pc market as well but thats because consoles and other electronic devices had a larger domestic marketshare due to being produced there. But thats all irrelevant bullshit. We arent talking about koreans or chinese or japanese consumers, we are talking about our country and our own culture and how things might be if we let them. Besides, Do you see japanese salary man and korean corporate slaves enjoying themselves? no. you dont. The chinese are laying flat, the japanese are becoming hikki neets, and the koreans... the koreans live their lives in escapist fantasies and live stream eatting their fucking dinner to pretend they have friends. Is that the future you want, you npc retard?
+--- 93152246
+>>93149424
+fixed
+--- 93152247
+>>93152189
+>It's china that skipped pcs and went straight to phones
+Lol, you couldn't be more wrong.
+--- 93152263
+>>93152246
+kek
+--- 93152340
+>>93133251
+>your brain is on /pol/
+People fork shit all the time, some troon haters will just fork stuff and make something better.
+--- 93152918
+>>93152093
+>who the fuck spoke to koreans in 2001?
+Asians exist, you dumb gweilo. Also
+>Star Wars Phantom Menace
+>podracing 
+>alien shouts SHIBA at one point
+>sounds very similar to 씨발 = bitch
+
+And Chinese did not skip PC, they also had massive internet cafes. Where do you think the fucking panda burning incense virus came from?
+--- 93153312
+>>93151114
+>Also Linux desktop is way better if you just put in time customising and finding out what you like and how you like them
+>linux is only good when you build it out yourself
+
+linux cucks everyone
+--- 93153447
+its ogre
+--- 93153517
+>>93153312
+It's better in the sense that you can make it be whatever you want it to be and can add functionality to it if the out of box experience isn't enough. The only thing I've done with KDE plasma is the ability to preview 3d models in Dolphins details menu. Did I need that? No. Can I do it anyways? Yeah. Can you do that with windows explorer? No.
+--- 93153616
+>>93145274
+>stole
+>free and open source software
+What is "basic reading comprehension"
+>>93145353
+Been on Ooboontoo since 2016 my nig. There's some learning required but it's not that hard. It's either that or having to fight Microsoft tooth and nail to keep out the telemetry and other annoying garbage they keep trying to foist on the user as a "service".
+If you're having trouble with KDE Krashing™, then pick a more stable desktop environment like the other anons said. I can't offer much advice on this front since I've been on GNOME for about three years straight, used Budgie for most of the period before that, and only faintly remember using Cinnamon and KDE when I first started.
+
+What I can tell you is to not go for one of those meme distros like Elementary that try to be so easy and simple to use that your grandma could use it or try to cushion the blow of change for tender delicate Wintoddlers who have never so much as seen a command line in their life. They inevitably end up kneecapping the user and making things worse when something *doesn't* Just Werk, or you try to do something outside the bounds of the little play pen that they have set up. Something neutral like Ubuntu that's relatively user friendly without trying to coddle you is what you want. I was a Winbabby who never used a command prompt or powershell before too, and the terminal isn't nearly so scary as people complain about it being. Go in with an open mind and don't fold at the first instance of difficulty and you could potentially have a long and happy life as a Linux user.
+--- 93153761
+>>93133251
+Trannies are taking over the Minecraft modding scene too.
+Surprise surprise, most trannies are autistic, and are thus drawn to autistic stuff like children's block games and programming, and their malignant narcissism drives them to stamp out any and all dissent to their worldviews. It's not necessarily anyone else's fault that they're ruining things, because we as a society have been gaslit into believing the narrative that disagreeing with trannies is evil and literally anuddah shoah oy vey.
+The difference is that at the very least Linux is FOSS and thus you can just fork it if you want a based tranny free distro. You don't get that option with Microsoft, or Apple for that matter.
+--- 93154713
+>>93149988
+>retarded faggot
+--- 93155238
+>>93134671
+>i'm slippings certs, manifests and faking them in a vm personally. They can't do shit about it.
+i kneel
+--- 93155295
+>>93153517
+>The only thing I've done with KDE plasma is the ability to preview 3d models in Dolphins details menu. Did I need that? No. Can I do it anyways? Yeah. Can you do that with windows explorer? No.
+ChituBox used to offer that functionality for Windowsk, there's also this: https://papas-best.com/stlthumbnails_en
+I have tried to get something similar working in Dolphin but so far have failed, so I'd be interested in how you did it.
+--- 93155328
+Vault 7 release had scads of exploits for Windows 7 and the devs called Windows 7 "swiss cheese."
+
+And Windows 7 was ass compared to Windows 2000.
+--- 93155344
+Windows 7 is the new MS-DOS
+--- 93155414
+>>93149988
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
+--- 93156046
+>>93138353
+Man this makes me angry. This shit is obviously illegal by any anti-trust principles yet amerishart "democracy" can do nothing about it.
+--- 93157007
+>>93155328
+GPT-san, many Vault 7 exploits affect Linux too and development on that can not nearly keep up with the possible exploits for it.
+--- 93157071
+>>93138353
+why don't they use firefox
+--- 93157400
+>>93133025
+Your price for staying on win7 for so long is a direct upgrade to 11. You played yourself.

g/93135346.txt

@@ -396,3 +396,145 @@ just dont, fuck em, its their own time they're wasting and idc to waste mine ins
 Very different degrees of awareness in people. I believe almost anyone has the potential to be aware of important things but they're simply not because of their upbringing and the way they were taught to think. I also think it's a brain development thing in the early formative years.
 By default you're more aware than an animal, but one needs to build on top of that. 
 Overall, I believe it's mostly an education problem. If we did have the appropriate education many would have a much higher level of awareness of what's important and how to think critically.
+--- 93147076
+>>93145726
+This. 
+
+Fucking gatekeep as hard as you can.
+This also goes for torrenting and shit like that. You do not want morons to know about everything.
+--- 93147566
+>>93135346 (OP)
+I have literally never seen an ad on youtube ever.
+Adblock since it first arrived, and switched to ublock origin when it first arrived, not seen a single ad in 15+ years.
+Firefox user since Phoenix days.
+--- 93147731
+You can't fix stupid. Don't even try. Just nod and say "oh dang that's crazy" when they complain. Save yourself the trouble. It's okay to have stupid friends, but don't aggravate yourself trying to make them less stupid.
+--- 93148926
+>>93146720
+>Overall, I believe it's mostly an education problem. If we did have the appropriate education many would have a much higher level of awareness of what's important and how to think critically.
+No it isnt. Education is not the end all be all to awareness. In fact, education can be detrimental to intelligence based on whether the curriculum is going to instill critical thinking skills and independent thought. Which goes against trying to make someone into an apprentice or shape them into the perfect "you", which is the opposite of self awareness.
+
+Education in the way youre framing it is all about teaching a monkey how to code as an example. School is not where you learn to be actually intelligent. That usually comes from genetics and your parents if they are not ludities themselves. A person can skip all of education and still be smarter than some engineer simply cause they have the proper life skills and critical awareness.
+--- 93149373
+>>93148926
+You're acting as if I said there's no degree to intelligence and awareness. When I use the term 'education' I don't mean it in a traditional sense, but I mean it in a very loose sense.
+Looking back on my comment, I can see how it can be misconstrued, and I'd actually have to expand and extrapolate a lot to properly explain what I mean, suffice to say, we mostly agree.
+--- 93149459
+>>93135346 (OP)
+>uBlock Origin known for breaking on Chromium based browsers like Chrome and Edge (the most widely used browsers by normalfags) on and off especially on YouTube
+>Firefox, literally advertised as such by the developer "works best on Firefox", I have never seen an ad on YouTube for as long as I've been using it
+>"normie friends proceed to complain about youtube ads again a month later"
+Hmmm I wonder
+--- 93150798
+>>93135346 (OP)
+Speaking of youtube what the FUCK am I supposed to use for my phone now?
+--- 93151006
+>>93150798
+newpipe, brave, firefox with ublock, etc
+--- 93151070
+>>93146720
+>Overall, I believe it's mostly an education problem. If we did have the appropriate education many would have a much higher level of awareness of what's important and how to think critically.
+If anything, it's the opposite.
+--- 93151552
+>>93145726
+i believe that's how internet censorship came to be
+--- 93151630
+>>93142881
+But we also need those people to dedicate their lives to that tech to advance. Any civilization of exclusively primitrade fags won't be competitive in the long term
+--- 93151891
+>be me
+>go to school
+>gets in trouble in school for using an adblocker on my school pc
+>gets mad
+>goes home
+
+i actually got in trouble for this..
+--- 93151922
+I installed Portmaster on my moms laptop a couple of months ago and unless she turned it off, I think it still works okay. A few weird warnings because of browser setting conflicts but I don't think it's bothered her much.
+
+
+>>93150798
+I installed Rethink on my phone for blockering ads outside my browser.
+
+Or you can use a browser with built-in ad blocking, Vivaldi is pretty good at blocking stuff.
+--- 93151981
+>>93151070
+Sadly, "education" consists into memorizing random shit instead of developing critical thinking.
+--- 93152098
+>>93151630
+>Any civilization of exclusively primitrade fags won't be competitive in the long term
+We are in an advanced society, and people still pay top dollar for plumbers and constructors. They'll never be out of a job. Only tech fags will.
+--- 93152213
+I personally think there should be laws on the books that criminalize blocking and/or evading ads. When you think about it, it's basically theft and you are stealing from a service you did not pay for.
+It could also be mandated by having facial recognition from a web cam so if you look away from the screen when an ad is playing, the video will stop unless you view it.
+--- 93152377
+>>93152098
+of course but any civilization of only tradefags is easily beatable in war. Tech workers are essential for advancement.
+--- 93152419
+>>93152377
+>of course but any civilization of only tradefags is easily beatable in war.
+Who builds the tanks asshole?
+--- 93152543
+>>93152419
+Modern engineers and techfags are responsible for their advanced capabilities
+--- 93152589
+So, let me get this straight. Using uBlock Origin with No Script and WebRTC blocker is redundant and counter productive? What if I have adblock and uBlock Origin? Doesn't it harden my browser?
+--- 93152636
+>>93152543
+Modern engineers are also the same guys who will do the tasks no programmer will.
+--- 93152659
+>>93152213
+--- 93152713
+>>93138806
+What does this block?
+--- 93152784
+>>93152589
+>Do NOT use uBO with any other content blocker. uBO performs as well as or better than most popular blockers. Other blockers can prevent uBO's privacy or anti-blocker-defusing features from working correctly.
+https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#all-programs
+--- 93152798
+>>93152213
+Permutations of a grotesque, ectomorph, no hand-eye coordination having little faggot.
+--- 93152817
+>>93152784
+Thank you very much for this. Does this include No Script?
+--- 93152975
+>>93152213
+here's a (You)
+--- 93152982
+>>93152589
+Jesus Christ. uBlock Origin obsoletes like half of those.
+Remove AdGuard, AdNauseam, ClearURLs, Ghostery, NoScript, Privacy Badger and Privacy Possum.
+--- 93153120
+>>93146410
+>Linus Tech Tips said it's LE BAD
+he said blocking ads is piracy 
+kek
+--- 93153158
+>>93146410
+>>93153120
+he never said that
+--- 93153529
+>>93138660
+so you're saying 2 more months?
+--- 93153863
+>>93152982
+What about WebRTC?
+--- 93153967
+>>93153863
+WebRTC leaking has already been fixed in browsers themselves, so uBlock Origin removed the option.
+--- 93154754
+>>93152589
+kek the only privacy extensions worthwhile are ublock and canvas blocker
+--- 93155052
+>>93135346 (OP)
+>telling normalfag about adblocks 
+the best way to get fucked long term, normies destroy everything they touch. Worst case scenario they spread it to other normies and the thing get fucked, this is why I don't talk about sponsorblock or ublock.
+--- 93155613
+>>93135346 (OP)
+You say this about normie friends, my own brother who taught me how to torrent when we were little became a lazy ass turbo normalfag and uses youtube on his smart TV and sits through ads and preaches to me that "dude when you grow up like me (I'm grown up dude) you will get tired of tinkering and you will get a smart TV, and an xbox". Meanwhile my boomer parents have a dedicated PC connected to their TV and they use a wireless mouse to watch youtube on a browser with ublock.
+>>93135373
+I don't care what type of person you are, I guarantee you that there are useful videos on youtube for you. Youtube is basically everything. You can teach yourself how to build a house, how to cook, study math, learn to play an instrument.
+>>93137122
+Good. Suffer for being a moron cultist.
+>>93138077
+The crypto shilling it shoves on you is a turn off for most people I recommended it to.

g/93136834.txt

@@ -340,3 +340,157 @@ where the gentoo bros at
 --- 93146033
 >>93138407
 Oh nonono...
+--- 93146865
+>>93146033
+thats just my niece
+--- 93146894
+same as a few days ago, the light theme still flows through my veins
+--- 93147182
+>>93137862
+>favela odors
+--- 93147227
+>>93143846
+This is a script.
+
+https://github.com/MichaelSebero/CoolRune/releases/tag/CoolRune-Variants
+--- 93147465
+>>93140796
+DE is Rio on 9front, but 9wm is a port to linux
+--- 93147492
+>>93144146
+Sent it from my phone, but I imagine 4chan would work fine from netsurf on 9. Taskbar is winwatch and then a little script that show time and battery etc
+--- 93147535
+>>93136834 (OP)
+--- 93147557
+>>93147535
+Wall?
+--- 93147591
+>>93136834 (OP)
+nothing special, that makes it special.
+--- 93147593
+>>93147557
+i made it in gimp from one i found online
+--- 93147616
+>>93138407
+>uses a file manager GUI in linux
+NGMI
+--- 93147750
+>>93138407
+HEEEEEEY!
+--- 93147853
+>>93140800
+based
+--- 93147884
+I like the look of a bunch of rices, but in practice I get fatigue from everything looking the same. I think it's easier on my brain if each window is immediately identifiable as distinct from one another. Anyone else?
+--- 93147901
+>>93144590
+Why EndeavourOS? Just use archinstall.
+--- 93147912
+>>93147853
+I have the xfce wallpaper with the dracula theme in a VM, it's really comfy.
+--- 93147929
+>>93140352
+Handsome
+--- 93147938
+>>93147912
+BROOO
+--- 93147939
+>>93140800
+Nice, love XFCE
+Megumin pic source please?
+--- 93147956
+I kinda miss xfeces
+--- 93148019
+>>93136834 (OP)
+--- 93149028
+Arch BTW
+--- 93149360
+>>93147939
+--- 93149623
+>>93138515
+thanks for sharing pape (don't remember if it was here or /wg/)
+--- 93150992
+>>93147182
+you again as always.
+--- 93151024
+>>93142172
+I wanna get give you massive props for using parabola but you fucked it with your bloated browser
+nigga what is wrong with you
+--- 93151052
+>>93147535
+What is your PS1 code for your bash name?
+--- 93151085
+>>93147591
+Why pdfs when you can use w3m+html for books
+--- 93151527
+>>93138407
+found the cyber tranny
+--- 93151547
+>>93151052
+https://ezprompt.net/
+
+Bashrcgenerator is down apparently
+--- 93151588
+>>93151527
+I seriously think like over half of the "transwomen" online are just LARPing autistic fags who don't even dress like women or have sex with other humans. Scratches some kind of degenerate itch they have, I guess.
+--- 93153233
+>>93151052
+you might want to look at mine, the colors are different but pretty much the same thing (don't use generators, learn the syntax yourself).
+export PS1='\[\033[1;32m\][ \[\033[1;31m\]\u@\h \[\033[1;34m\]\W\[\033[1;32m\] ]\[\033[00m\]$ '
+
+just change the colors which parameterized by `[<depth>;<color_code>m\]` (e.g. `[1;31m\]` for deep red.)
+--- 93153401
+>>93151588
+It's a fetish.
+--- 93154323
+>>93151411
+Can I have the NetBSD wallpaper?
+--- 93154462
+>>93154330
+NIGGER FAGGOT NIGGER FAGGOT NIGGER FAGGOT THOUSAND TIMES
+--- 93154920
+>>93154323
+Here you go.
+--- 93155024
+>>93144590
+that only affects the accent color iirc
+--- 93155037
+>>93147884
+there's that and i feel like flatshit is bad for keeping your attention. i wish skeuomorphism came back.
+--- 93155057
+Good afternoon sirs
+--- 93155115
+>>93151411
+what do you use Netbsd for?
+--- 93155250
+:3
+--- 93155751
+>>93155115
+I'm using that VM to work on a fvwm config, I used NetBSD because I already had an install image on a hard drive.
+--- 93155852
+>>93147535
+tfw
+--- 93156014
+I have no personallity
+--- 93156539
+>>93138515
+>>93149623
+can you post the wallpaper pls? thx
+--- 93156703
+>>93155852
+good afternoon. what font is that?
+--- 93156793
+>>93156014
+> Manjaro
+Anon, I...
+--- 93157181
+dwm workflow is amazing as a lawstudent
+
+zathura + subl + libreoffice layout makes me 10x.
+librewolf + lf + zsh on workspace 2.
+htop on workspace 3.
+
+That's my go to for college classes and studying.
+--- 93157213
+>>93157181
+MACACO

g/93141363.txt

@@ -64,3 +64,49 @@ I can get it for 185 at Mindshittory, I'd consider it if it was like 160.
 --- 93146284
 >>93141363 (OP)
 tst
+--- 93148097
+>>93141363 (OP)
+it sucks
+--- 93148887
+>>93141363 (OP)
+Funny, I'm on the 6500 too right now and I'm going to be upgrading to a Ryzen 5000 cpu as well. It depends on what kind of games you play, what framerate, resolution z etc. But I would recommend the 5700x simply because the two extra cores help in .1% & 1% lows while still maintaining a 65w tdp
+--- 93149077
+>>93148887
+Why not the 5800x, you have one of those gay mini things
+--- 93149249
+>>93141363 (OP)
+yes, it's insane value for that price, ignore the rich nerds on the website who can afford to throw 300 dollars on a cpu, i have never seen a cpu that cheap, im actually a bit jealous
+
+the intel ones way too overpriced if you cant actually afford them, they are not bad but, new stuff will always come out anyway, you will close the gap eventually
+
+if you would rather eat this month, get the ryzen
+but if you want to lose some weight, get an intel
+--- 93149525
+>>93141363 (OP)
+The Ryzen 5 5600 is absolutely still a worthwhile CPU. Great value for the money and on a great platform. You said you're going to be using a 4K 120Hz display so I'm betting your 4070 is more likely to be the bottleneck, especially with how GPU bound games are lately in the VRAM holocaust era. I can't think of many games it wouldn't run at 120Hz and especially not when at 4K, and further still not with ray tracing on.
+
+I would say if you don't think a 5600 is good enough at that performance standard that you could bump up to a 5700X. Going by Amazon US pricing, it's $138 for the 5600 and $188 for the 5700X. That's a 36% price increase and probably a 5-10% performance increase, maybe more "future proof" if that's what you want to hear. But with how fast GPUs are aging lately, you'll probably need to upgrade the 4070 before either of these CPUs.
+--- 93149567
+>>93149525
+Seems reasonable, actually I'm using the 4070 until I have to refund it, fuck merchants, I will never pay for coilwhine shit quality.
+--- 93150228
+>>93141363 (OP)
+Fuck jannies
+--- 93152142
+>>93141363 (OP)
+yes
+--- 93153833
+>>93149249
+ty
+--- 93156372
+>>93141363 (OP)
+YES
+--- 93156423
+AM4 is a dead platform
+--- 93156843
+>not betatesting AM5/7900X3D
+
+nigga, 5600 a pretty solid value for money cpu
+I recently built 2 PCs about 400 EUR each for the company I work at, rocking 5600G's
+
+My laptop is probably better (12700H RTX3060 64GB) but it cost me 1200 EUR

g/93141558.txt

@@ -227,3 +227,106 @@ non-pozzed?
 --- 93146473
 >>93146296
 This. The problem isn't actually making the product, its getting people to actually use it.
+--- 93146867
+>>93146344
+>>93146373
+I'm trying to make an app that will show events around your area
+--- 93148166
+>>93142482
+because it's funny to make fun esl retards who can't speak english properly, they sound like complete retards when trying to, and their silly mistakes give them away really easily. people who speak other languages are third worlders, and therefore poor and stupid
+--- 93148197
+I bankrolled my business by selling ebooks to mentally ill people who believe they're being gangstalked.
+--- 93148207
+>>93142482
+It's just Monolingual mongoloids trying to feel superior because they only know the easiest language. Literal brainlets
+--- 93148389
+>>93148166
+What if they just made a typo, and the whole complex story you built up in your head about them isn't real?
+--- 93148528
+>>93145345
+
+>how do you actually get people to buy it? How do you actually get people to know about it?
+
+Digital marketing 
+
+Unique branding, i REPEAT unique
+
+Attracting the masses 
+
+Doing some STUNTS to attract crowd 
+
+Involving girls (not always necessary)
+
+Psychology, Manipulation
+
+In the end, it must solve a problem. 
+
+hot take from me but : if product is Good and cheap, it always works
+--- 93148702
+>>93148389
+they didn't, they're esl
+--- 93148936
+>>93142482
+>A couple of years ago nobody talked about "ESL".
+Incorrect, check the archives.
+--- 93149085
+>>93141745
+based
+--- 93151016
+>>93144090
+For sure it has it's downsides. But to some those don't outweigh the downside of having to deal with someone elses bullshit, or emotional outbursts because they themselves are barely able to keep their own head above water, or just having that ounce of authority over someone else turns them into a piece of shit.
+
+You can also mitigate the risk of not being paid by requiring the money for the materials up front. Still sucks if you get fucked and aren't in a position to sue (or even if you are) but it's better than the alternative.
+--- 93151253
+>>93148528
+>In the end, it must solve a problem. 
+
+Does it? Maybe I'm just not so happy using "problem" so loosely so I don't see what problem art or homeopathic shit solves for example. I feel like it has to fill a want or a need is more accurate way of putting it. People buy useless shit all the time that doesn't solve any problems, some it even creates new actual problems.
+--- 93153304
+>>93141558 (OP)
+got any business ideas?
+--- 93155916
+>>93141558 (OP)
+find a pain point and fix it
+--- 93156088
+>>93148389
+ESL isnt when you mistype a word. You notice someone is an ESL from their grammatic structure. There's a difference between "I installed a new modem, but my ISP won't authenticate it", and "I tried to install a new modem, but my provider of internet doesnt accept it since it has restricted it to certain models."
+--- 93156308
+>>93141558 (OP)
+Usually by working in a similar business and knowing ins and outs of how it works.
+--- 93156339
+>>93141558 (OP)
+I'm in the business of plowing your mother senseless, you fucking retard.
+--- 93156377
+>>93148166
+>funny to make fun esl retards
+what a silly mistake, you esl subhuman
+--- 93156384
+>>93143895
+How did you get involved in doing this?
+--- 93156421
+>>93156384
+>know girls in real life that have OF
+>hey do you want me to manage your accounts? I have a lot of experience in web dev etc etc
+>?????
+>profit
+--- 93156452
+I do wordpress shit on the side, make extra 1000$ a month.
+It's a mess, but now I have the process streamlined, and a steady client queque.
+--- 93156463
+>>93142043
+This 
+Find a niche and fill it
+Specialization is how you make the biggest bucks as a small business 
+Or just make an onlyfans if you’re a woman
+--- 93156504
+>>93141558 (OP)
+here u go
+--- 93156619
+Start small... get a few clients. 
+Document all processes you do so you have a reference and also a guide for future employees
+--- 93156855
+>>93141698
+>pay the fees
+Head22
+Where to get money for the fees if I don't have any business yet?

g/93142374.txt

@@ -80,3 +80,172 @@ The ones with the mic? They tend to have at least one button that lets you pause
 --- 93146597
 >>93142374 (OP)
 KZ ESX is the best budget bassy soundstage IEM and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
+--- 93146817
+see you in 4 weeks
+--- 93147507
+>download a bunch of boomer rock playlists from spotify just to see what its like to be nggar 
+>some of this stuff is actually good, especially remasters
+huh
+--- 93147592
+What are the go-to true wireless iems when it comes to mic quality? I need to handle conf calls while in the streets and everything seems to be shit in that setting.
+--- 93147597
+>>93146817
+I ordered k1 a week ago, wonder how much of pos will it be
+--- 93147619
+>>93147592
+None, bluetooth turns all mic audio into mono 8kHz 64kbps.
+--- 93147653
+>>93147592
+Bluetooth is the limiting factor in that case but I think within the last few revisions there was some enhanced call quality feature added but I forget what it was called.
+--- 93147924
+just received s12pro
+--- 93147969
+>>93147924
+Nice. They're a good set.
+--- 93148184
+>>93147969
+thank you!
+great iem like open-air headphones but treble (air?) spears to my ears a little bit, have to find good eartips for reduce it...
+--- 93148517
+which bullet iems should i get. i can't wear that over the ear stuff in public
+--- 93148545
+>>93148184
+You could try putting 3M micropore tape on the filter, other than that ePro Horn Shaped Tips are pretty much the best to reduce harsh treble.
+If you want to try the Type E tips i would get the Final E500. It comes with a full set of 5 pairs, way cheaper than buying just the tips.
+--- 93148554
+>CCA CRA (AutoEQ'd to Variations)
+Didn't get a recc before, what's the next step of pos for me here?
+--- 93149266
+>>93148517
+https://rentry.org/c8gqc#bullet-iems-15-100
+--- 93149557
+>>93142523
+>>PR2 not even shipped
+Sir is International Workers' Day please understand. Must have break sir to reduce feeling of jump to fly like bird.
+>700+ pre-sale counting one Aliexpress listing only
+Holy shit NGGAR won... I foresee NO way Crin's Truthear Zero:RED sells anything close especially if it is $50 or potentially more.
+--- 93149626
+>>93149557
+At least Tanya DSP shipped already.
+--- 93149786
+so its kb ear and not k bear...
+--- 93149851
+>>93149786
+Nyo...
+--- 93150002
+>>93149557
+I eventually canceled mine for >>93146817
+--- 93150087
+>>93148545
+S12pro's nozzle diameter is almost 5.7mm but Type E eartips are 4mm (inner)
+if i put narrower eartips to wider nozzle, will it effects to the sound? is this bad? i often worry about this
+--- 93150154
+Why the fuck is everyone sucking HBBs dick? Is he the next Crin?
+--- 93150172
+>>93142695
+>I dislike having no way to pause the media I'm listening to when my phone's off.
+This is part of why DAPs are popular, they have physical buttons
+--- 93150201
+>>93147592
+I find neckband iem adapters with mic's like the fiio one to have a better mic than TWS but i think that has a lot to do with the mix being directly under your mouth rather than in your ear
+--- 93150484
+>>93150154
+>Why the fuck is everyone sucking HBBs dick?
+He's the messiah for boomer rock & hip hop enjoyer.
+--- 93150622
+>>93150484
+niggarabi
+--- 93151355
+How do I make the wire less microphonic? It's nondetachable.
+--- 93151360
+>>93149851
+kara anon, stop being cute
+--- 93151381
+>>93151355
+ling long anon, it's over.
+alternatively, use one of those shirt clips or whatever they're called. you'll look like a sperg but it works
+--- 93151586
+>>93151355
+Realize why real IEMs put cable over ears and get one of those.
+--- 93151884
+>>93151355
+I *think* doing your own DIY braid of a few strands of material over the wire should cut down microphonics. Dunno if you feel like some arts and crafts only to have some janky looking wire wrapped in string lol
+--- 93151930
+>>93151355
+you could try applying a rubber/plastic rejuvenator to the surface. i can't guarantee this won't destroy the insulation.
+--- 93152100
+>>93151381
+I can only use the bullet-types.
+>>93151884
+>>93151930
+Would the insulating tape help? I can easily get my hands both on the regular one and the cotton(?) one for free.
+I know it would look atrocious, but this pair would be only used in bed, so it's whatever.
+--- 93152180
+>>93152100
+i'm suspicious that adding anything would help. i definitely don't think adding cotton tape would help. anything that makes it stiffer will make it worse.
+--- 93152250
+>>93152180
+>anything that makes it stiffer will make it worse
+Makes sense. It's already stiff as it is.
+--- 93152368
+>>93152100
+>I can only use the bullet-types
+Autism, many such cases.
+--- 93152741
+yesterday i was complaining how my hearing became worse in on ear so i had to -13% the volume on one channel but apparently putting a ~30-40 microseconds audio delay in that channel also does the same effect and fixes the volume balance. how does that work? different ear canal length?
+--- 93152801
+>>93152741
+post all gear, player, dac, pos, cable, etc for diagnosis. you prob just have some channel imbalanced pos iems bruh
+--- 93152862
+>>93152741
+you're exploiting the precedence effect to make it sounds like it's coming from that side. the perception of sound localization comes from a few different things, and the amplitude (affected by clogging) and time of arrival (affected by your delay effect) are the two most significant.
+--- 93152900
+>>93152741
+Are your cables plugged in correct polarity?
+https://youtu.be/kUT6ZhFdLkA [Embed]
+--- 93152948
+>>93147592
+>What are the go-to true wireless iems when it comes to mic quality?
+While not really IEMS the DeWalt Jobsite Bluetooth headphones are the best non-Bose-around-ear wireless for phone calls that I've tried. I do real estate development and am constantly on conf calls on loud construction sites. The Bose QC45 and 700 are by far the best I've had and people generally say they can hear me better on the Bose headphones than direct to the phone. So I use them everywhere. But if the site requires hard hats I use the DeWalt ones which are one of the few I've come across where people can hear ME loud and clear. I've probably been through 50 bluetooth headsets and the mic quality is usually the biggest problem but is excellent on the bose and dewalt. And the dewalt has a long lasting battery. The only improvement it really needs is to have the ear pieces custom molded to your ears. 
+
+>>93142374 (OP)
+>Past gear and your thoughts on them
+>IEM's
+I've had several sets of Sensaphonics 2sx IEMs over the years. I originally got them as I sing in live bands and while many people swear by IEM's for live music I could never get used to the isolation. They are however phenomenal for listening to music though. Having custom molded ear pieces out of the soft rubber they use is a night and day difference compared to off the shelf IEM earphones. I have two big issues with them though. 1. they are earphones only and you need an external device for wireless/microphone to make calls (still haven't found a decent device for that) and 2. I've had two pairs go bad on me out of warranty and at $1k+ a pair I got tired of replacing them. 
+>Headphones
+New here so I don't know if this should be in HIFI but at home I use the following for my headphone listening setup.
+>Computer playing flac files
+>Matrix mini-i USB DAC
+>Woo Audio WA22 tube amp
+>Grado GS-1000's
+Sounds amazing but I'm hard on equipment and have broken the chintzy grado frames twice. Grado did replace them for free though.
+--- 93153559
+>>93147592
+All are shit, from least shit to real pos
+Jabra>Sony>Samsung>Apple>others
+--- 93154544
+I can't belive there are people out there who have purchased 12 different hbb colab iems but it seems like he has fanbpys that buy everything he puts his name on. 
+What would you do with 12 different pos iems all kind of sorf of tuned to the same target?
+--- 93154600
+>>93154544
+ikr none of them even have waifu box l m a o
+--- 93154930
+>>93142374 (OP)
+listening to REM on my REMbuds
+--- 93155716
+>>93149786
+>so its kb ear and not k bear
+kek i only came to that realization several years into reading the name as well
+--- 93156051
+>>93153559
+i had the Jabra elite 3s and i’m sorry they were not good.
+main problem was the insane noise floor. they were comfy though and did sound ok other than that.
+but damn dude they had an entire app and still just massive “sshhhhhh” in the background constantly until there was no signal just atrocious
+--- 93156341
+>>93142374 (OP)
+where to buy the rem iem?
+--- 93156991
+>>93142374 (OP)
+What dongles are flavor of the month now? Need something new since my Tempotec Sonata stopped working recently.
+--- 93157412
+Any recommendations on a balanced 4.4mm cable for the Hexas?

g/93142980.txt

@@ -198,3 +198,597 @@ shut the fuck up boomer ( i love PF bye the way)
 --- 93146674
 zoomers are the new boomers
 alphoomers are the new millennials
+--- 93146808
+the question is are we all going to be replaced by indians?
+
+i have noticed the pattern
+if your company gets the first indian (and if he is like on a higher position, e.g. senior staff engineer or some similar shit title) you will "suddenly" see more indians being on interviews and slowly getting in
+
+thats the first indian calling in his 350 cousins
+--- 93146825
+>>93146808
+Why don't you have 350 cousins?
+--- 93146909
+>>93146825
+how do you think i dont?
+why would i call them to zerg rush and destroy the company tho?
+--- 93146912
+So I got laid off from Lyft, that was refreshing honestly. Feels like I lost these gold handcuffs. The pay was good and I really liked the job but at the same time I spent so much time writing some bullshit docs, onepagers and proposals, doing a bunch of onboarding and 1:1s my github looks like I died half a year ago when I was promoed to T5.
+Have been reading technical literature over the weekend, specifically honing my rx knowledge and just overall prepping for interviews. Goddamn I missed this. Fuck bloated orgs and fuck EMs
+--- 93146918
+>>93146909
+Why not?
+--- 93146932
+>>93146918
+because i am not a soulless nepotistic zerg destroyer of quality and companies?
+--- 93146938
+>>93146932
+that's a lot of words to say you don't have 350 cousins
+--- 93146945
+>>93146938
+kys pajeet
+--- 93146950
+>>93146945
+I accept your concession
+--- 93147087
+Where do I go from working in a MSP?
+I've been here for three years and I'm sick of fixing stupid Outlook issues every day but I don't know where to go
+--- 93148900
+>finish cards as fast as you can
+>no stories in the backlog to pick up when done
+what is the point, just let me slack off.
+--- 93149350
+>>93146912
+How much was severance pay?
+--- 93149358
+>>93146938
+kys pajeet
+--- 93149487
+>be ESL
+>be junior
+>have meeting with someone from USA
+>agree to everything the guy said
+>relay back everything to our company
+I don't know, it feels weird. It was supposed to be an introduction meeting but I felt quite out of place here. I was supposed to be just a junior guy watching "how it's done" and not "the guy" who knows this shit already. I hope I didn't do anything wrong and the other guy will talk with those Americans and actually know what they mean.
+But I do feel weird as fuck.
+--- 93149508
+>>93149350
+$20 in lyft rideshare credit
+--- 93149566
+>>93142980 (OP)
+happy international workers day sirs
+--- 93149585
+>>93149487
+>agree to everything the guy said
+you just fucked up the entire project
+--- 93149699
+yep my job is great
+
+t. C++ and C# chad
+--- 93149910
+>>93149585
+it was just a "yeah yeah I don't know too much let's meet next time with someone who actually knows this stuff, btw have i told you already I'm new here?"
+weird but maybe I didn't fuck up too much
+--- 93150045
+who asked?
+t. java and spring boot chad
+--- 93150159
+t. the highly paid software engineer a.k.a. Ruby chad
+--- 93150181
+t. impoverished typescripter
+--- 93150212
+t. jquery baboon
+--- 93150254
+t. helpdesk wagie
+--- 93150295
+>>93144670
+>learnt
+Based fellow Brit, or at least British English user
+
+>>93144727
+World domination, of course
+--- 93150308
+t. ot
+--- 93150324
+t. Infrastructure LORD
+--- 93150383
+>>93144670
+>Why do I feel so fucked?
+funny that, isn't it?
+>>93144864
+sage advice: delivered.
+--- 93150641
+>>93145938
+your qualifications, what else?
+you may have to take a standard IT job first though.
+--- 93150664
+>>93146137
+if you aren't getting stocks I don't see why you'd take a chance on a startup (particularly knowing the culture at most of them)
+--- 93150733
+About to start lying on my resume and saying I actually graduated the college I attended 10 years ago.
+I have a feeling I won't be alone.
+--- 93150737
+What do you do when you overslept and miss the morning standup? I just pretend nothing happened and go on with my day
+--- 93150748
+>>93145620
+once you're the best on your team you should leave.
+That's what I've just done (for a 20% raise of course)
+--- 93150945
+>>93150737
+my manager is so antisocial that he's stopped asking to skip the meeting and we just mutually ignore the calendar event now
+--- 93150965
+>>93150733
+be careful, education is one of the things that they pretty much always go to verify during the background check process
+--- 93151004
+>>93150733
+the other anon is right its too easy to verify graduation records, just vaguely imply you graduated by putting like 
+
+WGU - 2013
+
+implying its when you graduated but its actually just the one year you attended
+--- 93151129
+>>93150212
+i thought you were an extinct species???
+--- 93151145
+>havent done real work in 3 weeks
+>just been logging in and keeping my teams status online
+--- 93151197
+>>93150737
+I immediately start crying out of embarrassment and shame
+--- 93151323
+>>93150737
+Yeah I apologized to my direct boss then went on as normal, put in some hours in the afternoon.
+--- 93151338
+>>93144799
+>I want to be the best programmer I can possibly be.
+
+A more concrete goal seems to help, personally I want to be able to write code as good as the standard library (C++) code.
+
+Used by millions and with minimal (if any) bug reports.
+--- 93151373
+>>93150945
+It's always nice knowing an anti-social person somehow was able to move up.
+--- 93151561
+>>93145926
+there is no increased stress or bad wlb at faang if you're smart enough to get in the first place. only people who complain are bottom performers that get laid off
+--- 93151566
+my wife is on track to earn over 1 million usd this year. crazy.
+--- 93151636
+>>93151566
+whats her onlyfans?
+--- 93151684
+>>93151129
+this is a result of my management being full of burnouts who will do things like its 2011 until they die
+--- 93151703
+>>93151636
+She's into private prostitution only, no public stuff. Helps keep scarcity.
+--- 93151740
+>>93151703
+Based incelism fighter
+--- 93151809
+>>93151566
+Yeah and I'm the Pope
+--- 93151915
+>>93151566
+Jelly. You better be a good trophy husband
+--- 93151984
+is it true zoomers are actually worse at tech than millenials? my job will secured hopefully
+--- 93152028
+>>93151984
+chatgpt > millennials
+--- 93152072
+I hate trying to make and test regex from scratch that I can't find online
+--- 93152120
+I applied to a junior job that required 0 YOE. I have 2 YOE. They told me I don't have as much experience as they'd like in the interview. How can new grads even compete in the current market lmao
+--- 93152122
+>>93151561
+depends heavily on the team and what you're working on 
+example: i heard that if you're part of AWS you're working slavery hours whether you're good or not
+i'm not in AWS but everyone up and down the chain are working at least 11 hours a day -- 9 to 9 is more common
+--- 93152201
+>>93151984
+allegedly they don't know the DOS computer skills a lot of us have, and they probably never used ISOs or bittorrent or any other file sharing, and also don't know how filesystems work or most likely the traditional way to install a program on Windows.
+
+That's why Windows has been dumbing everything down, it seems, in order to fuck over future generations out of the basic computer skills necessary to do things the jews disagree with (like piracy, installing non-approved software, etc.)
+
+So it's possible. Doubt it will matter much, bigger problem will probably be the filthy american government taxing everyone to death to pay for the aging boomers and every other generation older than us.
+--- 93152258
+I'm going to troon out. Company's covering my gender affirmation care. God bless Silicon Valley.
+--- 93152270
+>>93150748
+I've always been the best in my team, but if I switch any faster all my jobs will be below 1 year
+--- 93152294
+>>93152028
+chatgpt is useless, I have a faggot in my team using it for code and he spends longer prompting it than it would take to look at stack overflow for a solution
+--- 93152318
+>>93152072
+literally use chatgpt for it
+--- 93152352
+>>93152258
+nice you should dress as fubuki and go to the office every day as well
+--- 93152379
+>>93152258
+I wonder if I can get my company to pay for my TRT?
+
+It's surely "gender affirming care" too? Just for men who want to remain men. Manly men.
+--- 93152391
+>>93152379
+>>93152258
+and while we're at it, remove the federal regulation on how much testosterone can be prescribed at one time, I want to be a goddamn gigachad.
+--- 93152423
+>>93152352
+which fubuki outfit, though?
+--- 93152457
+>>93150045
+I just like to remind everyone from time to time.
+--- 93152474
+>>93152258
+make sure you look like you are supposed to, a breedable anime kitten, otherwise nobody will want man with a wig
+--- 93152493
+How do I gain confidence to engage and interact with stakeholders?
+--- 93152507
+>>93152379
+pretend as female that want to transition to Male and let them buy all the TRT you need brah
+--- 93152532
+>>93152493
+you dont, stakeholders is just a fancy word for goysoomer
+--- 93152540
+work is not going so well lads
+--- 93152578
+>>93152493
+you don't, if you're a wimp you're ngmi
+--- 93152595
+>got lunch with boss
+>asked him to pay for my net+ cert, he said OK
+>also said he might fire a lazy coworker of ours who lies all the time and doesn't pull his weight (other coworker constantly complains about him) and hire a more junior person for me to manager, train up in helpdesk ect so I can do other shit down the line
+It's happening bros
+--- 93152624
+>>93151566
+if she makes 1, you gotta make 10, go commando and stick the penis on the peanut butter to show dominance
+--- 93152625
+>>93152493
+They should gain confidence to engage and interact with you. Put the fear into them.
+
+>>93152595
+Awesome, congrats
+--- 93152661
+I'm thinking of legally changing my name to sound more Indian. Do you think that would help my chances?
+--- 93152682
+>>93143399
+You were doing the fire method right anon?
+--- 93152692
+>>93152661
+indians only help other indians from same region + caste
+--- 93152706
+>>93152661
+just change race
+--- 93152739
+>>93152706
+I don't think that legal yet, but I hope that's the next big cultural movement.
+--- 93152758
+>>93152661
+well that depends - what are you changing *from*?
+--- 93152780
+>>93152758
+French Creole
+--- 93153121
+>>93151984
+yes, and it is because they dont pirate games anymore. Now fortnite and roblox don`t cost money they can`t even read .nfo files and README
+--- 93153250
+>>93152423
+the OG one with the exposed belly will probably be the most disturbing for your coworkers imo
+--- 93153415
+How do I get out of the webshit trap? 
+Over the last few years the only thing I've done is gluing together npm packages. 
+I want to do real programming again but I kind of don't even remember how to and what I'd even do. Everything is just webshit nowadays.
+--- 93153512
+>>93153415
+>real programming
+real programming™ doesn't exist
+what you're doing is real programming
+--- 93153532
+Anyone here lied about graduating college on their resume, then got caught after then background check and was fired/had their offer rescinded?
+--- 93153550
+>suggest command for team lead to run to fix something on their new computer in the team chat
+>they're now messaging me directly as if I were tech support
+Oops look at the time I've got a meeting to go to
+--- 93153556
+>>93153532
+No, I don't have a room temperature (celsius) IQ.
+What made you think they'd not catch that?
+--- 93153558
+>>93143217
+How to do that with coding skills in 2023 without "freelancing"
+--- 93153567
+>>93153532
+Save up and goto college
+--- 93153589
+>>93153558
+Just freelance
+--- 93153597
+>>93153415
+What is real programming?
+--- 93153619
+>>93153597
+Embedded. It's the most prestigious field. Everything else is just coping that you will never be a real programmer
+--- 93153651
+>>93153619
+>he fell for the /g/ memes
+--- 93153690
+>>93153619
+Unless you're mining that material from scratch you'll never be a real programmer
+--- 93153755
+> Applying to on-site job
+> Have to refill in all resume information on website.
+> Country of residence defaults to India
+I would like to volunteer to be a murder victim.
+--- 93153813
+>>93151809
+Francis, please, put me in charge of the jesuits, I'll fix them
+--- 93153932
+>>93151984
+I don't know... I'm 22 and I used to pirate games and mess around with *NIX since ages 8. However that was out of necessity than anything else (poorfag living in third world shithole).
+--- 93154039
+>>93153619
+>crunching to release consoomer products 
+>most prestigious
+--- 93154040
+>>93153932
+So you would never pirate again?
+--- 93154095
+>>93153550
+i hope you learnt your lesson anon
+--- 93154176
+>Have TS/SCI 
+>No company is willing to give me a polygraph, even for associate roles I'm overqualified for 
+Why are they all so cruel? 
+
+>>93144216
+>This is the new generation I'm competing with until AI takes over 
+Thank god
+--- 93154179
+>>93153619
+anon, please stop posting dangerous misinformation.
+>>93153597
+the more you get paid, the more real it is.
+--- 93154180
+>>93154095
+I make the same mistake every time
+No good deed every goes imported
+--- 93154210
+>>93154180
+*Unpunished
+Goddamn I hate my phone
+--- 93154238
+>>93153619
+embedded is much easier than enterprise programming
+>single threaded
+>no need for mass scalability up for millions of users
+>no need for cross-region/global deployment
+>no need for advanced abstraction
+>no need for distributed systems design knowledge
+>no need for cloud knowledge
+>simple business logic like "display a vector or temperature"
+>limited by physical hardware performance, making development slower and innovations much slower
+
+also embedded engineers get paid much less due to their simpler and easier work
+--- 93154301
+>>93154176
+Why so desperate for a polygraph? Security clearance is a privilege, not a right anon.
+
+>>93154179
+>>93154238
+>>93153651
+Webdev cope
+
+>>93154039
+Based embedded chad trying to keep others out of our field
+--- 93154313
+>>93154238
+>>single threaded
+>he actually, unironically, doesn't know
+some people just have to learn the hard way i guess...
+--- 93154395
+I like that /g/ays take themselves out of the competition by going to uni for EE or CE instead of CS like normal, not going to uni at all because everything is online bro, learning C for some retarded reason and thinking they'll get a job with it, worshipping embedded since some other people online told them it's the real deal, and obsessing over programming languages as if people are paying you to write code because they have nothing better to do instead of to drive business value. You manage to make yourselves terminally unemployed before even starting and it's amazing.
+--- 93154419
+>>93154301
+I signed a form to get a polygraph upon PCSing to my new unit over three years ago but right before I arrived the agency the unit worked with contracted the work out to a company because the people in my unit kept fucking up (and simply just not doing) their work and I've been pissed about it ever since. I can easily find jobs that are willing to sponsor clearances but none that are willing to do a simply polygraph add-on to the clearance I already have reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. 
+Every AWS Intelligence job requires a polygraph now god damn it.
+--- 93154489
+is it true embedded jannies have to clean up their own garbage? 
+pathetic
+--- 93154508
+>>93154238
+>>single threaded
+lmao
+>>no need for mass scalability up for millions of users
+embedded systems handling millions of requests quickly is what allows you to scale your bloated webshit 
+>>no need for cross-region/global deployment
+lmao 
+if you touch medical or radio, you WILL deal with global shit 
+>>no need for advanced abstraction
+lmao 
+>>no need for distributed systems design knowledge
+somewhat true
+>>no need for cloud knowledge
+true 
+>>simple business logic like "display a vector or temperature"
+lmao 
+>>limited by physical hardware performance, making development slower and innovations much slower
+LMAO
+--- 93154517
+>>93154419
+Rip that's unfortunate.
+--- 93154537
+>>93154395
+>as if people are paying you to write code because they have nothing better to do instead of to drive business value. 
+Unfortunately, this is occasionally a real thing that happens, albeit not intentionally.
+--- 93154572
+>>93154040
+That's impossible. You eventually get addicted to it, It's more fun to download music from Soulseek for example, than stream it on Spotify. Even when my friends and relatives shit on me for pirating everything, I just find it entertaining. I torrent something, I seed it, and then others can also enjoy it.
+--- 93154582
+>>93154508
+>embedded systems handling millions of requests quickly is what allows you to scale your bloated webshit
+--- 93154634
+>>93142980 (OP)
+>no links for open positions or places to apply for
+LinkedIn and others are full of fake, outdated, spam job offers. And applying to FAGMAN is useless without a referral.
+--- 93154677
+>>93154634
+no one applies to FAGMAN unironically, their recruiters reach out to you first
+--- 93154740
+>>93154508
+>lmao
+lmao
+--- 93154760
+An employer I know told me straight up that they post job listings with the intent of not hiring anyone except for a predetermined candidate. I figured that was already the case but I was surprised to hear it admitted
+--- 93154795
+>>93154677
+>their recruiters reach out to you first
+Through referrals?
+--- 93154816
+>>93154795
+no they cold email you 
+some desperate ones will cold call you
+--- 93154828
+am i fucked with Ruby?
+does Rails have a future?
+i hate php and node and python :(
+--- 93154862
+>>93154828
+I heard it's popular in India, maybe you can move there
+--- 93154871
+>>93154816
+How would they even know that I exist, nigga?
+--- 93154877
+>>93154871
+linkedin
+--- 93154892
+>>93154877
+-_-
+--- 93154905
+>>93154862
+how did you hear that unless you are pajeet, pajeet?
+--- 93154933
+>>93154905
+Somebody in this thread, rubytard. Not sure why you learned a meme language. Maybe you'll like Rust too
+--- 93154938
+>>93154828
+Ruby is used by at least one (1) company currently!
+--- 93154952
+>>93154938
+kek
+--- 93154979
+>>93154938
+>>93154933
+also all your fizzbuzz javascript code is hosted on either Github or Gitlab, both of which are written in Ruby
+lmao get fucked
+Rubychads always win
+Rubychads are the highest paid devs
+--- 93154992
+>
+>>93153567
+>>93153556
+Thanks for not answering the question useless fucks.
+--- 93155021
+>>93154992
+Okay self taught (lmao). Why do you think real programmers would help you waste others' time?
+--- 93155030
+>>93154979
+My company uses Ruby, and I kind of like it...
+The only downside is devs from other languages come in and want to program in Ruby like it's Java. They create a billion little helper classes and services, and it all becomes a fucking nightmare because nothing has a type...
+--- 93155120
+>>93151984
+your average zoomer is completely tech illiterate due to only needing to use ultra streamlined consumer tech. but nerdy zoomers are way ahead of any generation at the same age. the access to information these days is unreal. you can learn shit so much faster and more efficiently. you get access to all kinds of things in a way that just wasn't possible at the same age for earlier generations. so the good at tech zoomers are very far ahead. but yes the average zoomer is braindead.
+--- 93155211
+>>93155021
+I strongly doubt you qualify as a "real" programmer or have any ability to answer the question in the first place. I'm getting more of a 
+>why would I, an unemployed bitter loser in debt 80k encourage anyone who might not have taken basket weaving at mumbai university to get a job when I cant?
+--- 93155229
+>>93151915
+I'm not sure I am. I hope she doesn't decide I'm not good enough. I'm actually kind of a burn out. when we met I had the more promising career but that is now far from true.
+
+>>93152624
+at this point I don't think it's possible for me to come anywhere near her current income let alone surpass it or catch the trend. she is on track to become a c-suite and I am definitely not.
+--- 93155254
+>>93155030
+are ruby devs really paid a lot or Stackoverflow is lying?
+--- 93155287
+>>93155211
+Well, sorry to inform you that you're wrong. I work remote and graduated college with no debt. Sorry to betray your expectations. I understand it must be frustrating.
+--- 93155469
+>>93155254
+Idk, I make $200k cash, plus some lottery ticket stock options
+--- 93155479
+There's this boomer at work that when he tries to explain something he dumbs it down to literally a kindergarten level and it's sooo goddamn annoying.
+
+He does it to everyone though, and I bet he can't help it. Should I be difficult with him about it? It's so fucking soul-crushing, because I automatically just assume he is intentionally insulting my intelligence, and everyone else's.
+--- 93155676
+>>93155479
+could just be some kind of social dominance thing, in which case he also wouldn't be doing it intentionally
+--- 93155862
+Ok I consneed, the HN hiring thread sucks ass
+--- 93156934
+>>93155479
+the truth is you are indeed a low IQ brainlet
+--- 93156950
+I have a masters in math. I'm trying to get into machine learning. I'm learning python, Numpy, and Tensorflow. I'm giving myself a year to find a job.
+
+1. How many personal projects should I have completed before trying to apply? I'm think at least one but no more than 3.
+
+2. While I'm working on projects would it be a waste of time to get an associates in C.S (or a higher degree?) I'm afraid no matter what I do even with a strong background in math and projects I will still lose out to be people who have those qualifications. I have also been slowly working my way through SICP in the side and I know a fair amount of C.
+
+Any other skills I should learn?
+--- 93156987
+>>93156950
+see OP under section for "self taught"
+--- 93156994
+>>93156950
+you've already graduated and you're going to take a full year to get a job? masters in math meme lmao.
+--- 93157042
+>>93155479
+He is the interface to tech - so that people don't need to understand tech to know what he's saying. He will be promoted. You won't.
+
+Stop taking everything personally idiot. The Boomer is trying to help people. Maybe he should give you a participation trophy to make you feel better.
+--- 93157102
+>>93156994
+Well I was going to pursue a Ph.D but decided I don't want to really play the academic game. Unfortunately I lived for years as a sort of NEET reading estroic math papers and autistically spending 8 hours a day doing math.
+--- 93157126
+>>93157102
+can you post the resources needed to get into math for serious stuff
+somehow in programming i dont need that much math
+post the beginner stuff and and also advanced and esoteric shit please
+bonus if they are related to computers
+--- 93157139
+>>93157126
+>somehow in programming i dont need that much math
+that's cause you're a dumb webdev
+--- 93157145
+>>93156950
+>I'm giving myself a year to find a job.
+risky all-or-nothing play which will most likely not play out, bad idea.
+
+get a job now. that will be your plan A.
+you'll be a junior, so no one will expect anything from you. use this time to invest in your plan B (the AI/ML stuff, pytorch, tensorflow, whatever.)
+
+this way, if your self-taught ML skills wind up being worthless (90% chance), youre atleast on *some* kind of a tech career ladder, and not left out in the cold.
+--- 93157156
+>>93157102
+hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
+--- 93157197
+>>93157102
+>>93157102
+actually if anything maybe you *should* play the PhD game, and then pivot into some financial circles were the math crowd is big, i.e. risk assessment, risk modelling, hedge funds, etc.
+it would just make more sense i think for someone with your background.
+yeah you can hop into AI/ML or webdev or whatever but then youre kind of throwing away all that math prestige youve acquired.
+--- 93157408
+>>93157197
+math is completely useless, he's throwing it away no matter what he does
+--- 93157419
+>>93156994
+How am I going to get a job in the next month realistically? All I know is theoretical math. I've published a paper, but nobody cares about that in industry.
+>>93157145
+Same as the above response. How am I going to get a job with no skills? I know it's laughable but I had a help desk job for a year at a company and it was okay, but I have no interest in going back to I.T. What exactly am I going to be a junior in? Just software dev? Agaig, I have no projects or anything.
+
+>>93157197
+I could do that, but I'm pretty sure a masters is enough to get a job. I know for a fact a that very few jobs require a Ph.D outside academia and it's just going to overqualify me for most of them. I'd consider maybe trying to go back, but I'm trying to pivot into something else.

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@@ -384,3 +384,482 @@ This, by definition, leads to them defending literal garbage.
 --- 93146737
 >>93145095
 He's right in that there's a hard upper bound, something like 10^8 miles. But it's never reached both due to time needed and because someone else in the car would break before then.
+--- 93146813
+>>93145104
+didnt he say a ram drive? as in random access memory?
+--- 93146820
+>>93143142 (OP)
+You should also find out that the write limit is huge. As in heavy use for 50 years huge.
+--- 93146862
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Bitch please my 2012 samsung 830 is still working, stop being a literal retard
+--- 93146872
+>>93143142 (OP)
+>buy yourself a fancy new SSD
+>don't give a single shit about what goes on it
+>swap file, torrents, VMs, minikube
+>3 years later
+>94% health
+Huh
+--- 93146980
+>>93143142 (OP)
+i have a crucial mx 500, that i use since 2011.
+--- 93147015
+>>93146999
+You're probably looking at the health % and not the wear leveling count/percentage used/whatever SMART variable you buffoon
+--- 93147083
+>>93146999
+what percents? im talking about time to failure
+--- 93147142
+>>93146686
+you have lots of prefailure
+it's over
+--- 93147152
+>>93144496
+why did choose ssd over hdd for a nas?
+--- 93147162
+>>93147142
+anon...
+--- 93147176
+>>93143142 (OP)
+What even is the point of SSDs? You can't even wait 1 minute for the system to boot?
+--- 93147184
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Longer lasting than your rust platter boomer
+--- 93147214
+>>93143142 (OP)
+I've never had a single SSD fail and I bought in early. I've had one being kinda worn making replacing it the smart thing although it would've probably kept working for months. I VASTLY prefer this to the old mechanical drives that'd just make an ugly noise and then be dead one random day you turned the computer on.
+--- 93147240
+>>93146999
+My guy, I don't know what the fuck you bought, but the shitty QLC SSD I bought 8 months ago is still at 100% available spare at 30TB written, so to 
+>Explain
+You bought a piece of shit, what were you expecting? Your reasoning here is like suggesting that all processors are slow pieces of shit because you're retarded and bought a Celeron dual-core to do Blender renders on.
+--- 93147296
+>>93147176
+What is it? 2001? 
+Try it, see for yourself.
+--- 93147303
+>>93146628
+mfw ameriburgers dont have an internet connection thats faster than hdd write speeds
+--- 93147320
+>>93147296
+My laptops all have SSDs, and other than boot time there is no difference on my desktop which still has a HDD.
+--- 93147341
+>>93147320
+So you're retarded
+--- 93147375
+>>93147341
+I don't use Windows, so maybe that's why I don't see anything different.
+--- 93147382
+>>93143142 (OP)
+a 1TB SSD (even a nice PCIe 4.0 one) will set you back less than £150.
+That's the same price as a decent meal out for a family of 4.
+who cares if it dies in 5 years time?
+--- 93147398
+>>93147382
+150? It's 60 bucks over here, 40 if you shop carefully and wait for deals. Wow, they're not kidding when talking about how fucked the brit economy is.
+--- 93147442
+>>93147398
+100 for a decent SSD, my numbers were outdated.
+$60 gets you a shit one.
+--- 93147444
+News flash retard all storage is like this except disks.
+
+You're not paying some fags at a data recovery center to rescue your HDD for 1000$ to save your video game save files.
+
+Use bluray.
+--- 93147445
+>>93143142 (OP)
+the only ssds ive ever had a problem with are ocz and samsung
+
+otherwise yeah blazing fast load times and file transfers are really horrible
+--- 93147552
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Yes and in a billion years or so, the sun will grow to the size of your mom.
+--- 93147630
+>>93143142 (OP)
+>>93143215
+>>93145198
+Who the fuck cares about SSD writes?
+--- 93147753
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Holy shit, we have actual metric of SSD health, how horrible!
+--- 93147807
+my 970 evo 4 years ago is still at 98% health and 1/4 of the tbw. while my 860 evo already passed the tbw and still working fine(game it to parents pc)
+--- 93147827
+HDD don't last forever either, they don't have limited write cycles like SSD's, but they do die eventually
+If you're terrified of losing data and refuse to put it anywhere but on a single local copy, use tape. Its by far the slowest of the 3 but if kept well will last the longest
+
+>>93144845
+Everyday? Also you'd need to delete 2 everyday as well, it has a write limit of 600tb, its actual capacity is only 1tb
+--- 93147954
+>>93143142 (OP)
+>use firefox
+>bind cache and Downloads to /dev/shm 
+done
+--- 93147976
+>>93143215
+get an hdd for torrents n shieet?
+--- 93148041
+>>93144127
+same except I don't torrent
+--- 93148057
+>>93143142 (OP)
+perfect for cloud stuff.
+--- 93148088
+Is my disk good guys?
+--- 93148172
+>>93146414
+Dunno. I usually go with WD, because in my (purely anecdotal) experience Seagate fails more often.
+--- 93148326
+>>93148088
+disgusting weeb
+--- 93148457
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Who the fuck uses an ssd for constant writes? 
+Oh wait retards do because they can't understand what an ssd is meant for, and why HDD are made for constant writes and rewriting on the drive.
+--- 93149317
+>>93148326
+--- 93149366
+>>93143142 (OP)
+>>93144845
+Just get some old stock enterprise drives then you dumb cunt. Some models have amazing endurance.
+>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_SSDs
+--- 93149402
+>>93143142 (OP)
+write cycles on new ssds are probably enough for them to last 8-10 years of actual use, don't be paranoid over this
+--- 93149403
+>>93149366
+Most of those are EOL
+--- 93149417
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Mechanical hard-drives fail all the fucking time.
+--- 93149533
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Just wait until you find out your heart also stops working after a certain amount of years.
+--- 93149553
+>>93143142 (OP)
+My 120gb SSD from 2011 has 80TB written and is still at 60% health.
+Stoo being paranoid as fuck.
+--- 93149558
+>>93149403
+Intel U.2 drives with relatively low usage are all over eBay and cost fuck all compared to new consoomer SSDs.
+--- 93149563
+I don't get it. Why are some SSDs that are several TB's worth $50 and others are worth $100+
+--- 93149581
+>>93144528
+Seven hours have passed, still no answer. Sad!
+--- 93149606
+>>93149563
+Marx explains it in his book.
+--- 93149618
+>>93149553
+>My 120gb SSD from 2011
+Which brand and model
+--- 93149723
+>>93143992
+You and all of your non-/o/ repliers dont know what youre talking about.
+Thats not how cars work.
+If youre talking about service intervals then you need specify which interval youre talking about and what your issue is.
+ICE cars dont simply brick and the same goes for EVs.
+--- 93149802
+>>93145677
+Just SaaS, goys.
+--- 93149822
+>>93149581
+Not that anon, but whenever I try doing research into used enterprise SSDs to see which ones are good for the price; I'm reminded that Redditors and especially LTT forum users are fucking braindead.
+They avoid used SSDs like the plague and berate anyone who recommends them. They act like every used drive will die in 2 more weeks, and that a SSD with 92% health is already on deaths doorstep.
+They instead recommend brand new DRAMless QLC drives for people wanting "low cost NVMe storage".
+--- 93149845
+>>93143160
+And TBW only measures the end of warranty, most drives are able to write petabytes over their TBW reating. 
+OP is a retard, your SSD's controller is likely to die before you ever wear out the nand. 
+These niggers have no idea how SSDs work and post this shit every few days: "GUYSSS MY SSD IS GONNA DIE!!! HDDS ARE BETTER!" stfu you'll die sooner than your ssd will
+--- 93149879
+>>93143142 (OP)
+>you find out that SSDs are literally a ticking time bomb where they will stop working once you write a certain amount of data to them
+Next, you find out that you have to write non-stop to them for several years before you hit that limit. For normal use, SSDs have had comparable expected lifetimes to HDDs for more than a decade now, and SSDs have continued to make order-of-magnitude improvements since. You'll be fine.
+--- 93149921
+>>93145552
+No, the NAND isn't getting better, it's getting worse. 
+But modern controllers are smarter and write less to the nand for garbage collection and other shit, so it is true that modern QLC drives can outlive very old SLC/TLC drives.
+--- 93149975
+>>93146628
+Yeah, because it's not like HDDs have like dozens of different mechanical parts that wear out over time... Only SSDs have a limited lifespan!
+--- 93150001
+>>93146686
+how much terabytes written is that?
+--- 93150082
+>>93150001
+about 30
+--- 93150494
+>bought a fancy laptop
+>the ssd are soldered
+What now fags? If ssd are dead your pc are useless now.
+>don’t buy ssd-soldered computer
+Many brands now offer those kinda computers more than before. They are thin and easy to move around. Thin computers have their own charm.
+--- 93150592
+>>93150494
+Just solder a new SSD
+--- 93150765
+>>93143295
+they're not moving the files around to different drives and reusing the drive space smart one
+--- 93150858
+>>93143142 (OP)
+I have a 10 year old SSD that's still working
+I have literally never had an SSD die on me
+--- 93150924
+>>93145615
+dat projection
+--- 93150950
+>>93146737
+this is NOT a schizo thread
+--- 93150972
+>>93143142 (OP)
+I had Samsung 830s for 11 years, never failed. Technology has moved far since then. 
+
+SSDs failing always has been a meme
+--- 93150973
+>>93150494
+It's not a good laptop if it has a soldered SSD. Research shit before buying. The end
+--- 93150981
+>>93146813
+yes, I mean if you took several gigs from the internet and loaded it into your RAM, you might as well copy it to a SSD, HDD, or fuckin USBFDDD
+--- 93150993
+>>93143142 (OP)
+never trust any form of storage medium.
+important data should be backed up on at least one more drive for redundancy.
+--- 93151000
+>>93147630
+see
+>>93145515
+--- 93151022
+>>93144444
+CHECKED KEK
+--- 93151175
+>>93144444
+My moms lexus is worth more now than when she bought it april 2021
+--- 93151181
+>>93151000
+The drive I posted is TLC and has a rated endurance of about 14.5 PBW.
+I ask once again, who the fuck cares about SSD writes?
+--- 93151236
+what do you think ?
+--- 93151258
+>>93143142 (OP)
+>THE HORROR
+>literally have 10 year old SSDs in my computer with like 1% wear rating
+--- 93151629
+>>93150993
+This, just assume everything you use could die one day and be prepared for it. Anything more than that is just drinking in anxiety unnecessarily
+--- 93151985
+>>93149403
+So? There's plenty of new old stock lying around.
+--- 93152019
+>>93151985
+Yeah, and it costs more than a new consumer drive while being slower
+--- 93152104
+>buy ssd
+>check its remaining life once a year
+>buy new one and copy the files once it starts to approach its end of life, which will take about a decade to happen
+wow that was so fucking hard
+--- 93152385
+>>93151175
+>My moms lexus is worth more now than when she bought it april 2021
+Lol yep my car cost more because of COVID as well. The market is crazy right now.
+--- 93152431
+I just boat a FIRECUDA nvme today, basado endurismo!
+--- 93152452
+>>93152431
+>he didnt buy NYTRO
+--- 93152455
+>>93150973
+What if you want to use an ultrabook/macbook
+--- 93152466
+>>93143170
+I torrent on hard drive or /tmp if I don't intend to keep it
+--- 93152468
+>>93152455
+Then you want a bad laptop 8although I think business ultrabooks aren't as bad with soldering shit)
+--- 93152571
+>>93143142 (OP)
+>>you find out that SSDs are literally a ticking time bomb where they will stop working once you write a certain amount of data to them
+>>you suddenly start writing as little as possible to it in various ways including tweaking your system to minimize writes
+Said nobody. I even have a Paging File setup on one of my 5 year old SSDs and it's still doing just fine to this day.
+--- 93152606
+>>93143142 (OP)
+>>you suddenly start writing as little as possible to it in various ways including tweaking your system to minimize writes
+Schizo behavior. Enjoy the drive and upgrade it in 4-5 years like a normal human being, you're never going to hit the endurance limit in that time. I have 9 year old boot drive ssds that are still above 95% endurance.
+--- 93152633
+Stop hoarding porn Jared
+--- 93152664
+>tfw 64GB SanDisk SSD that you bought off of eBay because you wanted to buy into the hype of SSDs but didn't want to spend money in 2011
+>SMART reports that right now it has 105TB written, 1,312 Power Cycles, 73,386 Power On Hours, and only 98% Wear Leveling Count
+feels good
+--- 93152961
+>>93147176
+No I cant. Dumb question.
+--- 93153023
+>>93143170
+thats just normal SSD behaviour tbhngl
+--- 93153670
+>>93146737
+There is no "hard upper limit" for a IC engine where it will just stop working when reached, you mongoloid.
+--- 93153817
+NEED HELP LADS
+>bought an ssd recently
+>noticed the write amplification factor is 4x
+>wtf
+>test it in different roles (system, secondary) across dfferent operating systems (windows, linux) on different hardware (multiple computers) even in different configs (swapped drive slots in one computer)
+>4x no matter what, so not a software issue, nor any other kind of hardware issue
+>contact manufacturer, complain about it
+>they get me to tell them about the situation and send them smart data from their own utility. also threw in a cdi screenshot for good measure.
+>they get back to me saying that while they acknowledge the WAF, they say there seems to be nothing. however they begrudgingly are offering a replacement.
+
+Should I take the replacement? What if it has the same problem? Or maybe it won't, but out of spite they'll send me one that has some other less visible problem.
+Or......should I ask for some sort of financial gesture instead, part of the cost of the drive? That way even though I got 4x less writes than I thought, at least I get a restrospective discount.
+
+The problem is, like some of you guys have said above, the TBW rating is a conservative estimate. Despite NAND writes being 4x more than host writes, it could theoretically still reach the TBW. 
+The TBW here is 150. So even with the 4x waf, it could still each 200. But without the 4x waf, it might otherwise have reached 800. And I'm probably not gonna find out within the time limit. 
+Over the past 7 years I have managed 35 TB of host writes across 3 other SSDs and computers, and that included a lot of re-writing and re-jigging between computers and roles, decrypting and re-encrypting as I shifted a few times between solutions. Even in those chaotic 7 years I only managed 35 TB. My computer setups are a lot more stable now, no way I'll manage 37 TB on this one disk alone in the next 4.5 years.
+
+Wat do?
+--- 93153872
+You're just autistic. Every device will stop working eventually, SSDs have more than enough write endurance for you to not need to worry about that shit at all unless you specifically have a very write-intensive workload.
+--- 93153878
+>>93153817
+is the file system properly aligned
+--- 93153898
+>>93153817
+Refurb drive.
+--- 93153899
+>>93153878
+yes, properly 4k aligned every time
+--- 93153988
+>>93153898
+What do you mean by this? It was a refurbished drive? It's a Kingston, bought it directly from Amazon. Smart data was practically empty at first.
+
+Or do you mean I should take the replacement drive?
+What if this wasn't refurbished, but the replacement they send me is, out of spite/cheapness, and they just rig the smart data?
+Could that even have been the issue with the original?
+--- 93154118
+>>93153899
+What exact drive it is? Is it on the latest firmware
+If it's cheap consumershit it's a waste of time worrying about it
+--- 93154329
+>>93154118
+kingston kc600 mSata version
+256gb
+kingston software shows the firmware is up to date
+
+it's obviously not a big deal money wise, it's more the principle. i could just accept the replacement, but that could be a refurbed drive and have other problems. Demanding is discount is tricky because they might claim it might still reach the tbw. no way to realistically find out because no way I'm gonna hit that many writes, even amplified writes, in the warranty period. i want even planning to start it soon, i bought it as a backup drive in case I'm the future when i want another mSata no one sells them any more.
+
+I'm not worried, even if nothing else i could just take the L, use it as a disposable cache drive, and never buy Kingston anything ever again 
+
+But they are offering a replacement. 
+Should I ask them first? 
+>I'll accept replacement, but only if its brand new, and it won't have write amplification (you may test it before you send it to me lol)
+Or just shamelessly ask for a retroactive discount lol?
+--- 93154384
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Yeah speaking of which, I want to order a western digital 4tb NVME from amazon...but the damn thing wont arrive til a month later.
+
+Is there another shortage or some shit?
+--- 93154414
+>>93154329
+Kingston is a piece of shit who use second gimped tier flash, I wouldn't be surprised if the firmware is also gimped so they can claim that TBW is what destroyed a faulty drive
+--- 93155647
+Why is every SSD a slave drive? They have limited writes!
+--- 93155959
+>>93154414
+Yeah, not buying anything by Kingston again.
+But what do you think I should do in this situation?
+--- 93155999
+>>93155959
+Get the replacement, I doubt they will give an used one for something that's worth less than like 30 bucks
+Or just use it as is, likely won't make a difference anyway.
+--- 93156004
+Why the fuck my ssd is so hot
+>idle ssd temp 60c
+>While gaming goes up to 75c
+;;
+I touched it once and it was a bit warm like 40 at most
+--- 93156061
+>>93156004
+Is it one with a plastic case?
+--- 93156089
+Luddite moment.
+--- 93156247
+>>93156061
+Yep
+Adata su630
+I know it's not good brand but im poor ;;
+--- 93156416
+>>93143160
+won't performance and total capacity degrade fast than that? sections of the disk literally die and stop working as they wear out.
+I'm paranoid and changed the path of TEMPDIR/TMP/TEMP folders to an HDD. too bad windows won't let you move your user directory off the c drive or i'd do that too.
+--- 93156453
+>>93143142 (OP)
+At least you know when they'll fail and it's measurable, instead of spinning rust randomly crashing into the heads and and gouging out valleys of data.
+--- 93156482
+>>93156416
+No, you shouldn't expect any degradation before the TBW limit and even when it does, all SSDs have overprovisioning like HDDs do.
+--- 93156555
+>>93156453
+SSDs can fail at any time.
+--- 93156611
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Don't care. I write hundreds of gigabytes to my SSDs every month.
+--- 93156662
+>>93144845
+Everyday? For 16 years? You realize that's over 10000 BluRays, right?
+--- 93156669
+>>93152019
+(Somewhat) False and false.
+They only cost more in the <2TB category, which you shouldn't even be considering. Anything 2TB and above is significantly cheaper.
+Consoomer drives boast higher on-paper stats but enterprise drives have better real world performance.
+--- 93156680
+>>93156004
+>>93156247
+>Adata su630
+lol thats what you get for buying shit
+check out my cheap but well reviewed ssd
+--- 93156749
+sheeet
+--- 93156792
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Huh? Hasn't this not been the case for the last 5+ years? iirc this was only an issue when SSD's were new
+--- 93156812
+>>93143142 (OP)
+Don't care, I have backups. Never assume storage won't random die on you.
+--- 93156888
+>>93152664
+I just recently had to toss a SanDisk SSD
+It works but exhibits the oddest behavior where it just wipes itself every cold boot
+--- 93156970
+Why are 4tb M.2 drives still fucking expensive.
+--- 93157004
+>2x ssd almost 6yo 81% life
+>135 days old ssd 95%
+why
+--- 93157010
+>>93156970
+>Why are 4tb M.2 drives still fucking expensive.
+because the tech hasn't caught up to make production of that size cheap.
+--- 93157022
+>>93156970
+Because it's getting close to the limit of what can be put on an M.2.
+8TB is even more expensive
+--- 93157075
+>>93143142 (OP)
+HDD chads win again
+--- 93157153
+>>93157004
+update your crucial firmware idiot.
+--- 93157376
+>>93156792
+It's never been a problem. Buy shitty product, expect shitty results.
+--- 93157411
+>>93151181
+see
+>>93145515

g/93143926.txt

@@ -24,3 +24,116 @@ Well maybe I can trick em and get it for free...
 --- 93146435
 >>93145834
 They make very high performing stuff for the price. A few of their models have QC issues and unless you buy from a local retailer the support story isn't great. As for the DX1 there's no widespread reports of failure (like their pa5 speaker amplifier).
+--- 93148106
+>>93146435
+thx
+--- 93148722
+>>93143926 (OP)
+I have a headset that has a microphone stuck onto it
+The cable for it goes to 3.5mm for a regular headphone slot but i also have this wire with a little box that just takes it to USB and 3.5 thought i never needed the 3.5 off that because i plug it into usb and it just works for what i need, has dials that control my audio, how much passthrough between my mic has so i dont hear myself muffled
+Only issue is that the cable at the neck of the usb is wearing and wont be long for this world
+Is that what a dac does? I need a replacement for that little wire that does those things
+--- 93149305
+>>93143926 (OP)
+just get the apple usbc dongle if you have low impendance headphones. otherwise dac / dacamps may be worth it.
+--- 93149329
+>>93149305
+i'm gonna add to my post. the 30 ohm headphones aren't gonna be an issue, but try to get the dongles made in vietnam. they are better,
+--- 93149369
+>>93149305
+>>93149329
+i bought one of those for 10 bucks or so, but pc has no usb c so i have it on a converter stick, is that good quality already? is the dongle really that good for this cheap?
+--- 93149481
+External DACs are cargo cult technology
+If you only need audio output, onboard is enough. if you want analog inputs, use an internal sound card
+--- 93150252
+>>93143926 (OP)
+yes
+--- 93150429
+Get a seperate dac/amp or get a DAP with a good dac/amp
+--- 93150449
+>>93144996
+>Motherboard DACs often suffer from audible electrical interference when the system is under load
+I haven't experienced that in at least a decade. Modern motherboards do not have this problem. It's more outdated information that lazy, boomer retards like you can't be bothered to update yourself on. External DACs are snake oil for audiophile morons.
+--- 93150575
+>>93143926 (OP)
+legitimately dac+amp is only necessary if you "need more". Try out the setup without it and see if you like it. Personally for me, I didn't like the limitations and settled on a dac/amp combo. Then felt like that was shit and got a dedicated dac and dedicated amp. I like this setup the most and no longer feel like I need more.
+--- 93150773
+Ifi zen dac is bretty gud, despite the mqa meme
+--- 93150847
+>>93150449
+>External DACs are snake oil for audiophile morons.
+only if you buy them solely because "i heard motherboard audio is bad," there are plenty of legitimate uses for external DACs if you're doing anything related to recording.
+--- 93150940
+Those ALC 1220 codecs are not created equal. It also depends on the mobo manufacturer implementation of it. The audio implementation can vary more than just what Realtek codec chip they stick on the board. Read reviews and peoples opinion before making a purchase and afterwards, play some music, play some games and watch some movies, and if you are still unhappy with the sound quality then get a DAC. Don't get a budget DAC thou. Cheap DAC will have the same noise from the onboard solution. It leeches out through the USB ports and cheap DACs make no effort to isolate themselves from the rest of the system.
+--- 93151521
+>>93150449
+>Modern motherboards do not have this problem. It's more outdated information that lazy, boomer retards like you can't be bothered to update yourself on.
+Both my AM4 boards have this problem (one B450 and one B550) whenever I run a demanding game. Just because all you play is Minecraft doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. Kindly go fuck yourself.
+--- 93152124
+>>93151521
+weirdo, what games do you play?
+--- 93152169
+>>93151521
+Maybe don't buy chinkshit motherboards. ALC mentioned in the OP doesn't have this problem.
+--- 93152441
+>>93152124
+First thing that comes to mind is Arma 3, just opening the server list would cause a screeching sound to play through the onboard audio.
+>>93152169
+>Maybe don't buy chinkshit motherboards.
+>ALC mentioned in the OP doesn't have this problem.
+My board (picrel) literally uses the same ALC-1220 as OP and has this problem. It's not some bottom of the barrel featureless budget board.
+--- 93152517
+>>93143926 (OP)
+Recently built a PC with MSI B650I Edge. I've never had such a shit onboard audio - tons of static, clicks and pops. Imagine my shock
+--- 93152617
+>>93152517
+It has ALC4080, which is barely different from 1220
+--- 93152977
+>>93152517
+>>93152617
+damn, 500 bucks for that
+--- 93153192
+>>93152517
+It's a combination of two problems I suppose: ALC 4080, which is a ALC 1220, but downgraded to using USB interface and the Mini ITX form factor, which introduces more interference as stuff on PCB is just closer to one another. Like, ALC 4080 and ALC 1220 have equivalent specs on paper. The difference is that the ALC 1220 uses the Intel HD Audio standard which uses a direct bus connection to the chipset. The ALC 4080 on the other hand uses a USB interface. USB audio is shit if it's not done right, and the vast majority of mobo manufacturers are not doing it right. Google ALC 4080 audio issues and you will find a litany of problems, even after the latest firmware and driver updates and various workarounds people tried.
+--- 93153388
+>>93153192
+asus claims this board audio is better isolated on the b500-f/a no idea if it's true, just gotta test it I guess...
+--- 93153439
+>>93152977
+I paid 220 with shipping
+>>93153192
+Yeah, mini ITX, and my system is cramped into 10L case - PSU is right near the motherboard. Sure, there are workarounds, but this is still disappointing. 
+
+Unrelated note: in the light of the recent news of EXPO profiles frying AM5 processors, I've checked, and the board was blasting 1.36V into SOC. Quite a lousy job MSI did with this one.
+--- 93153545
+>>93153388
+Yeah, needs to be tested on case by case basis, because all mobo manufacturers on their mid-range and up boards claim to use "high quality audio capacitors, isolated audio signals, audio noise guard, dedicated layers on the PCB just for audio, high-end audio jacks etc.". I have a strong feeling most of those are just buzzwords and provide nothing special whatsoever.
+--- 93153621
+>>93153439
+>Unrelated note: in the light of the recent news of EXPO profiles frying AM5 processors, I've checked, and the board was blasting 1.36V into SOC. Quite a lousy job MSI did with this one.
+The AM5 platform is a shitshow at this point. So many weird issues and it seems like AMD and board partners are spinning in circles and pointing fingers at one another to pass the blame instead of fixing the problems. Even Zen 1 didn't have so many different issues and that was a radical departure from the faildozer days.
+--- 93153639
+>>93149369
+Yes anon
+https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-apple-vs-google-usb-c-headphone-adapters.5541/
+--- 93153753
+>>93153621
+Prices are insane too, like 200 for a decent entry board...
+--- 93153999
+>>93153753
+The motherboard market in general is just shit, both for AMD and Intel. The coast of normal mid-range boards with adequate features almost tripled over the last five years or so and I don't buy the excuses of "it's the inflation, new features are pricey, it's the Covid and war throwing the supply lines out of whack etc.". For me that's just greed. B350 Tomahawk was $90 at launch, B450 Tomahawk was $110, B550 Tomahawk was $160 and B650 Tomahawk is fucking $260. Sure, I get that the economy is shit, I get the B650 boards have more features, I even get that the money printer goes brrrr destroying the value of money, but for fucks sake there's no excuse in going from $90 in 2017 to $260 in 2023. That's the price increase of what 280%?
+--- 93154128
+>>93153999
+Fully agree anon, I guess they just realized fags don't mind paying 200 for a mobo if it has rgb...
+--- 93154135
+>>93153753
+Also, don't get me started on mobo manufacturers just straight up removing features from their boards and moving them up a tier or two to more effectively segment their overpriced crap. For $250 we used to get POST codes and top of the line audio solutions as standard. Now mobos are advertised as DYI and OC friendly, but don't even include a cheap $1 POST code display to help you out when something goes wrong? Or fucking $300 boards rocking the shitty outdated ALC 897 audio codecs? Who fucking buys those overpriced boards which sometimes cost more than the CPU itself?
+--- 93154267
+>>93154128
+AM5 is so pricey right now that I think budget builds don't make any sense whatsoever. On AM5 it's better to go all in and get the 7800x3D if gaming or the 7950X for productivity tasks simply to justify the initial system costs. On a budget it's better to just go AM4 or Intel as mobos, RAM and the CPUs are just plain cheaper.
+--- 93156387
+>>93143926 (OP)
+Looks good to me
+--- 93156437
+yeah

g/93144193.txt

@@ -39,3 +39,239 @@ but that's not real
 >>93144193 (OP)
 >>93144297
 I want to FUCK a furry twink
+--- 93147006
+>>93144193 (OP)
+simple as
+--- 93147543
+>>93144193 (OP)
+just get loads of money and get someone to do it for you
+--- 93147568
+>>93146540
+Vrchat > reality
+https://youtu.be/GBx-8JaadBk [Embed]
+--- 93147577
+>>93144193 (OP)
+Rope
+--- 93147675
+Based
+--- 93147758
+>>93144193 (OP)
+learn arduino, electronics and sensors and have tailor(or a dedicated fursuit maker) take your head measurements.
+--- 93147886
+What is the deal with these weird ass robot dogs? Are they from some movie, tv-series, or game?
+Or are they just some stupid thing the autistic furry community came up with?
+--- 93147906
+>>93144193 (OP)
+One of these will do the trick.
+--- 93147921
+there's this cyberpunk fursuit dude on twitter who often posts pics and videos of his tech and process, he uses a wiimote to control his eyes
+--- 93148006
+>>93144193 (OP)
+furry shit would be cool if it wasn't just a front for degenerate fetish bullshit
+--- 93148017
+>>93147886
+They are called protogen. They are a knock off from some faggot's donut steel species called primagen that other furfags bought off AliExpress and bastardized. They were originally more feathered raptor shaped but turned to generic dogs over time. Kind of like this decade's spergals
+--- 93148068
+That's probably mostly handmade with a custom controller, maybe arduino or something. And I don't even know where that display could be from.
+--- 93148173
+>>93148017
+>Kind of like this decade's spergals
+
+That's the most concise way of putting it. I feel they attention whore just as much, too.
+--- 93148451
+>>93144193 (OP)
+>this rad
+Oh i got just the thing for you, furfag
+--- 93148495
+>>93147921
+well whats his @?
+--- 93148526
+>spend decades of trying to come up with an original design and it's all worse than simple foxes
+--- 93148542
+>>93144193 (OP)
+YIFF IN HELL FURFAG!
+--- 93148646
+>>93148526
+giwtwm
+--- 93149415
+>>93148646
+ngl that is kind of hot
+--- 93149456
+>>93144193 (OP)
+>tfw it still might take few years till becoming a protogen will be real
+--- 93149497
+>>93144193 (OP)
+>>>/lgbt/
+>>>/mlp/
+--- 93149985
+>>93144193 (OP)
+An arduino?
+--- 93150015
+>>93144702
+--- 93150554
+>>93148495
+IllumiCyberwear
+--- 93150647
+>>93148006
+honestly this
+--- 93152643
+>>93149497
+/mlp/ can actually give you good advice since they have tech generals that unironically discuss tech
+--- 93154199
+make a thread that's actually about tech and /g/ is like:
+>uhm... erm... kill yourself!! this isn't operating system bait or AI cp threads!!!
+--- 93154251
+>>93144193 (OP)
+thats actually really sick
+
+ive actually long had ideas about being a "furry enabler". ive got some EE skills, i can make an RGB strip light up, i can solder boards, i can make PCBs, i can 3d print stuff, but I haven't found a foot in the door yet.
+
+anyone have any experience being a furry costume designer specialist?
+--- 93154382
+>>93154251
+no one here does anything of value like that. all /g/ knows is operating system banter, elon musk, and ai generated cp. you'll actually find people with talent on reddit, twitter, or various furry websites who can get you started.
+
+
+the furry community is really inclusive, so long as you're not an asshole you'll fit right in. just ask a furry friend of yours (which you probably have) to introduce you to the stuff.
+--- 93154466
+>>93144193 (OP)
+maybe im autistic but what's the point in dressing up in something cute/cool when you won't actually see any of it from a first person perspective inside your mask
+--- 93154504
+>>93144297
+>>93144702
+>>93146564
+I'M RIGHT FUCKING HERE! >:V
+t. picrel
+--- 93154522
+>>93154466
+socialization with fellow furries. you can put in a costume to hide how autistic you are. some furries even refuses to speak when in a costume so no one can figure their identity out.
+--- 93154542
+>>93154382
+will furries be OK with me not wearing a furry costume? i respect furries but i'm not really a furry cosplayer myself. is that allowed? i just wanna be the awkward guy standing in jeans and a chequered shirt in the background with a laptop in my hands.
+--- 93154567
+>>93154504
+go shave UwU
+--- 93154592
+>>93154382
+>all /g/ knows is operating system banter, elon musk, and ai generated cp. 
+true
+>you'll actually find people with talent on reddit
+lol
+lmao
+--- 93154617
+>>93154542
+it's fine to do that if you want. you also don't have to have a full costume, just gloves and a fursuit head/mask with long clothes if you're spooked by it all.
+--- 93154756
+>>93154592
+>lol
+>lmao even
+you know it's true. being talented requires being social and not some mentally ill shut in whose only pleasure in life (besides cp) is bickering online about things made by people better than them and sometimes just directly over people better then them.
+
+
+folks on reddit at least have enough socialization skills to not be a racist asshole in front of eveyone they meet, even if they're just as obsessive and spiteful (which often they're not). /g/ users though... not so much.
+--- 93154782
+>>93154756
+>being talented requires being social 
+using reddit is not "being social" you absolute fucking loser
+at least the pathetic retards on this site admit to being pathetic retards
+--- 93154801
+>>93154567
+nu :3
+if you want that hair gone, then you're gonna have to tie me down and wax me~
+just dont wanna have anyone deal with the rough patchy growing-back hair UvU
+--- 93154827
+>>93154522
+yeah but why put in all the effort in making a cool and technically impressive custom suit instead of just buying your run off the mill sparkledog suit?
+--- 93154941
+>>93154827
+it lets you put your personality and interests into your fursuit. also it's just fun to make your own.
+--- 93155275
+>>93144193 (OP)
+Would be nice if someone ever come up with a suit with working facial expressions and motorized tail.
+--- 93155373
+Systemd is actually the only reason Linux is still worth using. Without systemd, service management would still be handled by bad shell scripts, not to mention the boot times. OpenRC is a bandaid while systemd is the cure. End of story.
+--- 93155883
+>>93155373
+what does systemd have to do with fursuits?
+--- 93156129
+>>93154504
+I think your tummy hair is really cute we should jerk each other off sometime lol
+--- 93156358
+>>93147568
+how can zuck even compete, carmack and abrash failed to make avatar legs
+--- 93156398
+>>93155275
+well anon, if you start working now your proto suit will be top tier.
+--- 93156599
+>>93154382
+>the furry community is really inclusive
+LMAO as long as you don't have a single opinion going against woke puritanism
+--- 93156670
+>>93155883
+That's the problem, right there. Systemd doesn't need to be about fursuits, it's still clearly the better option.
+--- 93156671
+>>93156599
+>woke puritanism
+is this how people interprete not being an asshole these days? maybe its best you stay away from the furry community, their "puritan" ideals of not being an intolerant asshole is just too woke for you (or, you know, you could just try not being an asshole for once in your life?)
+--- 93156694
+>>93156671
+Yeah try being not socleft, liking noncon or cub, or saying anything bad about muh feminism within 100ft of a furry. Nope, nope nope nope, no.
+--- 93156728
+>>93156671
+>is this how people interprete not being an asshole these days?
+No, wokeism is something quite different. Most people are not assholes and abhor wokeshit.
+--- 93156767
+>>93156694
+>not socleft
+stop bringing up politics about people you're around. no one but you wants to discuss the latest demagogues speech. 
+some furries are political, and you can usually talk politics with them, but being an asshole isn't tolerated under any circumstances, so just dont do it.
+>liking noncon or cub
+so youre admitting to being a rapist and pedo? yeah, please stay away from us.
+>muh feminism
+incel spotted.
+--- 93156867
+>>93156671
+Try openly saying "nigger". Just once. Find out how tolerant and forgiving they they are. It's a six letter word. It has been uttered billions of times. If the furry community is reasonable in the slightest people will have forgotten about it and moved on in a day.
+--- 93156875
+>>93156767
+>Bunch of nigger shit
+Die
+--- 93156884
+>>93156867
+>try being a racist asshole for no reason and see what happens
+gee, I wonder why they don't like you
+--- 93156890
+what's the distribution of iPhone vs. Android amongst furry enthusiasts? asking for market research.
+--- 93156901
+>>93156884
+It's one word. Why are you so scared of saying... one. word.
+--- 93156926
+>>93156901
+because that word has a history of being used in a derogatory and racist manner? maybe if you socialized more you'd understand that most people have progressed past being racist assholes.
+--- 93157054
+>>93156926
+Well the ntell people it's not about being racist? It's about being able to say a word of the english language.
+You say the furry community is reasonable. Why can't you just preface it with something like, "I'm not trying to be a racist, this is just a social experiment". The furry community is tolerant, after all. Surely they would understand you don't mean no harm if you explained your reasons for doing so.
+--- 93157133
+>>93156926
+because 99% of the time people trying to do something like that are just trying to be racist assholes without receiving any consequences. masking your racism behind layers of irony or "social experiments" doesn't make you any less of a racist asshole, it just hides your true intentions. 
+
+
+just by bringing up the n-word like this you're revealing yourself to be just an asshole who wants to get away with being toxic to those around others with no consequences.
+--- 93157158
+>>93157133
+What are the appropriate consequences of saying a six letter word?
+--- 93157159
+>>93157133
+Listen anon, I think you just have to accept you got told pretty bad.
+--- 93157169
+i wanna kill some blacks
+--- 93157240
+>>93157158
+for most 6 letter words, nothing, but the n-word is racially charged. it'd be justified for them to just stop talking to you then and there if they find out you're a racist. there's no reason to tolerate the intolerant.
+--- 93157279
+>such a sperg even a community of special ed dogfuckers think you're annoying
+kek
+--- 93157311
+>>93157240
+All right. You think some people would stop talking to you, and that's all there would be to it right? Do you think you would be good if you apologize afterwards? For how long do you think people would be angry with you if that happened?

g/93145138.txt

@@ -52,3 +52,172 @@ If the keyboard has physical texture, a backlight that can be switched on and of
 I really like candybar form factor and wish more manufacturers would use the sliding keyboard trick.
 
 Steam Deck not having a sliding keyboard will probably go down as one of the biggest design mistakes in Computer History. They would have sold 10x as many units if they had included it. Not having one just hinders the usability and mobility of the computer too much.
+--- 93146887
+>>93145138 (OP)
+Here are the current maids vs birds. In the left column, you can see the name of the Maid (or bird). I also want to change the second column from having sequences of letters to having sequences of small maids instead of letters.
+--- 93147171
+>>93146887
+Have you learned how to generate maid yourself using Stable Diffusion?
+--- 93147212
+>>93147171
+I don't have a Stable Diffusion Drawing Computer. The maids on that page were generated by maidspace.net.
+--- 93147432
+>>93146887
+kek you fucked up the combinators
+--- 93147537
+>>93147432
+These are just copied verbatim from the end of the Smullyan book. You are looking at "Who's Who Among the Birds" with a different title and changed the names of some birds to some maids and added maids to the header and margins. 
+
+If I made a transcription error, let me know, but these should be as valid as Smullyan's, given that I copied them from Smullyan's book and nobody has complained about his book for the last 40 years, so I am assuming they are correct.
+
+Either way I am about to do the part with the proofs so I will see how it got derived more and learn to make new combinators from old ones.
+
+The formatting is a little wonky, but probably a /sci/entist will tell me how to fix the latex to make the table get placed slightly higher.
+
+Thank you dra/g/ons for reading my post.
+--- 93147575
+>>93147537
+you made a spelling error at the 18th bird's name.
+--- 93147588
+>>93147212
+this but with Lucoa, thanks
+--- 93147715
+>>93147588
+I don't have very many Lucoas because she usually isn't in a maid dress.
+
+>>93147575
+Sage Bird?
+--- 93147844
+NIGGER
+--- 93148543
+>>93147212
+>I don't have a Stable Diffusion Drawing Computer.
+Look into the CPU guide, your GPD Win 3 comes with a pretty fast CPU.
+--- 93148577
+>>93146887
+How about the Crane?
+--- 93148733
+>>93147212
+keylloggrer keylogger mustard gas 17 tb of doplihin porn help sos
+--- 93149568
+>>93148577
+I thought that maid's name is Iroha and she came from a fighting game somewhere?
+
+It might make sense to use her over Ilulu.
+--- 93151339
+Soooo combinators are higher-order functions?
+--- 93152513
+>>93151339
+Yes. And the bird book is a really good way to learn it. I have typed out the contents of the bird book and I am going to change the birds into maids and also rewrite the story so it isn't a conversation between old people at a forest and is instead about maids in a maid cafe. Also add a part about Iota Combinator because I think that one is the most important. Iota is a Combinator which can make S and K so consequently just Iota can compute anything computable. I can combine Combinators with Maid Space to count to all possible Computer Programs in whatever size the Maid Space is. Then run all the Computer Programs until we find the Maid Mind Computer Program.
+
+We have to count bigger numbers. We have to hardware accelerate the counting. We have to make up a way to compile programs to Iota combinator and run them on the fastest possible Single Instruction Computer. The instruction will just be Iota. Then see can ideas from supercombinator or Graph Reduction get applied? Can we produce a reduceron that runs a lot of Iotas really fast? Can we parallelize the counting process with Partial Counting? If we use Computational Maidposting to make Combinators then also this demonstrates Maid Space has Universal Computation and also any mathematical object can be built from it because it can do Combinators and Combinators can do that. I don't know what ramifications this will have exactly, and Maid Space is just a structure for counting. It would mean just counting has Universal Computation.
+
+4Chan is my Science Foundation and we have to optimize counting so numbers can go up more. We are going to rebuild mathematics to give it more maids.
+
+Thank you dra/g/ons for reading my post.
+--- 93152590
+Get help, OP. The sooner you get treated, the sooner you can genuinely enjoy things again
+--- 93153232
+>>93145562
+I might actually use this list. It has maids and each one is from a different show so I can link all the shows and people who like the shows will like the book. I don't think I need 30. I think I just need 24 so the bottom 6 can get removed.
+--- 93153280
+>>93152590
+He seems to genuinely enjoy things. More than you at any rate.
+--- 93153496
+>>93153280
+this limp of a reply could only have been typed by eli hands
+--- 93153533
+>>93152513
+>We have to make up a way to compile programs to Iota combinator and run them on the fastest possible Single Instruction Computer. The instruction will just be Iota.
+You need at least two instructions if those instructions are not going to take any arguments. Consider a simple stack machine. Let's say that the stack is infinite for now. This stack stores functions. You need one instruction to push an iota to that stack and another one that takes the second element from the top and applies it as an argument to the first element from the top, pops both of those and pushes the result of that computation. Could be one and zero. Probably can't get any more minimal than that. When you write an expression using iota you give it structure using parentheses and you need at least two instructions to replicate it in hardware. Actually storing functions on a stack is a problem though, because there is no such thing as a "function" in digital systems. Part of the reason why there has never been a CPU that could run a functional programming language in hardware I guess (LISP Machines don't count).
+--- 93153692
+>>93153496
+Maidposting mindbroke you if you think everyone is Eli.
+--- 93153737
+>>93153692
+lmao maid fags deny reality yet again. he's a rampant samefagger
+sometimes he'll forget and reply to someone as someone else "supporting eli" but either accidentally leave his trip on or also reply to another post overtly as eli
+very sad
+--- 93153836
+>blog post
+>Trip
+>Avatarfaggotry 
+>Autism
+
+Kill yourself and then fuck off, in that order
+--- 93153856
+>>93153836
+don't forget
+
+>samefagging
+>constant personal army requests
+>claims to own 4chan
+--- 93154278
+Sooner or later all of you maid haters are going to have to accept that not everyone hates Eli, and some of us actually enjoy maidposting. Nobody is forcing any of you to come into maid threads and your disapproval will not stop them from being made.
+--- 93154605
+>>93154278
+sooner or later all you maid autismo dickriders are going to have to accept that most people hate eli, and some of us would place him under the wheels of a bus if we could. nobody is forcing you to be assblasted by our presence and your unhappiness with our hatred of this autistic loser faggot will not stop us from experiencing or expressing us
+in short, blow it out your ass
+--- 93154984
+>>93154278
+Eli will die of sepsis waaaaay before his book becomes public (he bathes in Gangis daily), and these low quality threads will follow. By tolerating this neet pajeet you are in reality playing yourself: He has no computer science knowledge whatsoever, hijacks good threads by plastering his forced lolcow material in the OP and will never deliver any of his promises except for half-assed plagiarism (like the Maid Card program or his "combinatorics" book which is actually just a rip taken directly from other introductory books such as "To Mock a Mockingbird". Eli will never be a real scientist because he'll always delegate the project's work to clueless anons who get caught in all his buzzword ridden schizobabble. Retards like you will always resort to using the argument that "at least he makes original and fun posts" when in reality it's simply you keeping him as a pet, and he is neither of those things nor will ever be.
+--- 93155164
+>>93154984
+>he bathes in Gangis daily
+I thought he was supposed to be Jewish?
+--- 93155215
+>>93145138 (OP)
+Dear 4Chan Science Foundation,
+
+I'd like to contribute to Maid Research. I think it's a fascinating idea, similar to The Manga Guide to Databases, and such.
+
+I'd like to contribute by maidifying https://cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/pointers/. I have a site where I can host the content. Just let me know if this fits the mission statement of 4SF.
+
+Thank you,
+NV
+--- 93155217
+>>93145245
+fuck off nigger
+--- 93155310
+>>93153232
+Hey Doctor, are you still working on the maid lang? Do you have a working interpreter? Can you share it?
+--- 93155371
+>>93155310
+>Do you have a working interpreter?
+hahaha
+>Can you share it?
+hahahahaha
+he is not capable of completing any project. everything ends in "well, other anons would not do it for me for free and allow me to steal it so work is halted"
+--- 93156161
+>>93155371
+c'mon man, don't be like that
+--- 93156536
+Eli? Is that what we should continue calling you?
+--- 93156616
+>>93156536
+maidshe prefers the name "autistic retard maid faggot" please respect maidher pronouns and method of identification and do not deadname maidher
+--- 93156666
+>>93155215
+I like this idea and I hope you do it. Everything can get maids and become nicer to read.
+
+The Science Foundation can publish a lot of CC0 maid research. If you make a pdf and it is small enough it can get posted to /sci/ too. That board can become the research distribution arm of the Science Foundation.
+
+>>93155310
+I have two experimental languages. One I was calling MAID-LISP and another called SLAM (Stack Language for Anime Maids).
+
+SLAM can get cleaned a little and released. MAID-LISP is probably getting renamed because I don't want to add eval, apply or numbers to that language. Maybe call it MAID-SML (Mapping And Indirection Dialect of String Manipulation Language).
+
+MAID-LISP is probably gonna get renamed something else. Those are the only two languages that got development work.
+
+I think of the two it would be easiest to get SLAM working with Combinators. Combinators can make all Mathematical Objects and Stack is a Mathematical Object so somewhere there is a Combinator(s) that acts as a Stack. I will have to find it and then translate Stack Operations to Iota.
+
+Thank you dra/g/ons for reading my post.
+--- 93156751
+>>93156666
+>Maid ## mod
+wow lmao
+>delusions intensify
+you're just calling yourself a mod now?
+--- 93156925
+>>93156666
+Thank you for replying, Dr. Eli. Is there an official way to join the foundation? I will work on the Pointer Arithmetics PDF when I have some free time this week. What is the size limit for sci?

g/93145216.txt

@@ -25,3 +25,89 @@ Daily reminder that Windows is the best desktop distro.
 >also you can run Ubuntu on it
 --- 93145468
 Mint + xfcesisters, I feel very good akchually.
+--- 93146991
+previous ubuntu user here, fedora is leaving ubuntu behind. 
+you get the same stock de and wm, you get rid of the fagstore and feels much nicer.
+--- 93147019
+>>93145216 (OP)
+see >>93145805
+you fucking fags
+--- 93148113
+>>93145216 (OP)
+>snap
+>ads
+>probably botnet
+>dpkg, the absolute worst of all the traditional package managers
+>made by a shady corporation known for anti-consumer behavior and discontinuing products at the drop of a hat
+>name originates in nigger language
+--- 93148164
+>>93145381
+>update my computer for first time in months
+>see this error message in the terminal
+>ignore it
+>life is exactly the same
+
+I'm just not going to get mad about computers anymore.
+--- 93148446
+>>93145216 (OP)
+It's great. I put it on all my desktops/servers. In a perfect world, I would only use this operating system. I wish I could make mac/windows look like the ubuntu UI. 23.04 also makes some very nice UI updates.
+
+My only gripe with ubuntu is snaps. As an end user, I don't care about sandboxing. All it seems to do is make things more difficult for me. For example, I can't use the file picker from within my snap installed browser to choose a file outside of my downloads folder, because snaps do not have access outside of there. Instead I have to drag/drop these from a window that does have access, or move the file to the downloads. I just want it to work, I don't care about sandboxing.
+--- 93149066
+>>93148446
+>My only gripe with ubuntu is snaps. As an end user, I don't care about sandboxing. All it seems to do is make things more difficult for me. For example, I can't use the file picker from within my snap installed browser to choose a file outside of my downloads folder, because snaps do not have access outside of there. Instead I have to drag/drop these from a window that does have access, or move the file to the downloads. I just want it to work, I don't care about sandboxing.
+What? I can choose any file I want in firefox. Sounds like a bug, not a feature
+--- 93149330
+>>93145216 (OP)
+*was
+--- 93149962
+>>93145216 (OP)
+>Say my name
+--- 93150392
+>>93149962
+>Stock GNOME
+>No easy way to install drivers and codecs and shit
+>only 6 (9 max for a given release) month lifecycle
+>(((FED)))ora
+No thanks
+--- 93150414
+>>93150392
+>No easy way to install drivers and codecs and shit
+the other day I tried to install Fedora 38, all went well. Installed Nvidia drivers right after that, and Fedora then refused to boot. lmfao
+--- 93151531
+>>93150414
+that's what you get for using a beta (fedora) for another distro (rhel), instead of an actual finished product (ubuntu)
+--- 93151933
+>>93145216 (OP)
+I agree with your points but what about snaps and all the other stupid canonical decisions?
+--- 93153591
+>>93151933
+Snaps are fine, they had a rough start, but work really well now. You can't always hit it on the mark.
+--- 93153815
+>>93145226
+FPWP
+--- 93155151
+switched from windows eleven (11) to ubuntu today. happy with the decision, just wanted a distro that W E R K S (no cultist shit, ya feel me?)
+--- 93155199
+opinions on opensuse tumbleweed kde
+yast looks like a control panel from windows
+how does it compare to ubuntu kde
+--- 93155257
+>>93155199
+>ubuntu kde
+is that a thing? why would you use ubuntu and not use gnome?
+--- 93155274
+>>93155257
+because gnome is dogshit?
+--- 93155290
+>>93155199
+I assume you're coming from Windows, and find the Gnome poweruser workflow too different.
+Just use Kubuntu if you really want KDE. It's what KDE itself recommends. It's literally Ubuntu with KDE and minor tweaks. What are your doubts?
+--- 93155298
+>>93155257
+i really dislike gnome developers and the taskbar at the top
+i also dislike the way the desktop works and looks
+looks like a tablet mac garbage design
+--- 93155725
+Don't care, still using OpenSUS Tumbleweed cause i'm a straight white male
+Ubuntu is outdated that's why i stopped using it

g/93145923.txt

@@ -13,3 +13,381 @@ Yes anon, the screen I stare at for hours on end every day of my miserable life
 >>93145923 (OP)
 The burn-in is dependent on what you use it for. The brighter the image, the longer it stays the same, chances of burn-in increase. If you use it for gayming or have everything in dark mode, i think it's irrelevant for newer monitors.
 I'm currently pondering about getting the oled from Dell, but wait until the price drops a bit more or an other manufacturer makes one for cheaper. The panels are all the same anyways, except for the LG ones.
+--- 93147725
+>>93145923 (OP)
+modern oleds don't suffer from burn-in like the older stuff, though it's a matter of time of WHEN it's gonna show up, you're probably gonna switch to something else at that point (or not), kind of like how all pc parts die but whenever it's about to go bad you've already upgraded twice
+--- 93147739
+>>93147725
+I should also clarify that "don't suffer burn-in like other stuff" means that it takes longer, but of course it still happends
+--- 93147874
+>>93145923 (OP)
+Apparently some of the newer models have pixel refresh software built within the monitor that resets the pixels to prevent burn in.
+--- 93147897
+>>93147874
+You can't fix that with OLED.
+Worked for Plasma since the problem was actual burn-in due to heat.
+OLED to problem is actually burn-out, the cells only have a limited life span and wear.
+--- 93148215
+>>93147874
+Theres a lot of anti-burn in methods for every single oled display that is released 
+Theres pixel shifting, so the burn in is spread out to a larger area instead of specific pixels
+Pixel refresh, so all pixels get same amount of voltage and degrade at the same level
+automatic brightness limiter, if your screen displays 2% white window its brighter than if it displays 90% to reduce heat and electronics limitations as the thing cant put 100% of energy to all pixels at the same time.
+Icon dimming, the algo detects static content like game ui elements or broadcast logos and dimms that specifically
+TPC, temporal peak luminance control. If your screen doesn't change luminance over time the display gets dimmer and dimmer until it does. Its actually pretty annoying if you're watching something that doesnt change its luminance and you have to manually open a menu to fix it.
+--- 93148989
+>>93145923 (OP)
+Still not as good or as robust as fucking CRTs
+--- 93149055
+>>93148989
+Nice red trail, negro. Maybe you'll get a good screen one day.
+--- 93149083
+>>93145923 (OP)
+just buy one and test it out u chud
+--- 93149193
+>>93149055
+What monitor?
+Yea, you wont answer this because you know how cherrypicked your picture is.
+--- 93149227
+>>93145923 (OP)
+Different use cases mean different opinions. I wouldn't worry about burn in for a movie and game screen, but would be concerned for spreadsheets and other general office work like EVE
+--- 93149710
+>>93145923 (OP)
+how long did you keep your previous monitors ? how many hours a year do you spend looking at it ? burn in only factor in if you kept your previous monitor for 5 years +. 
+The biggest problem is not the risk of burn in but the compromise you have to do, 1100€ for uwqhd is expensive, 42C2 are too big for a lot of people and a few compromise are still needed. I think consumer oled monitors are planned for 2025.
+--- 93149720
+>>93149227
+>general office work like EVE
+Kek
+--- 93150959
+>>93147897
+That's not true at all. They're making TVs and monitors with heatsinks now.
+
+https://youtu.be/yudNKx8mdLQ?t=42 [Embed]
+--- 93151049
+>>93146174
+>All consumer electronics is a meme, anon
+Sad but absolutely true.
+--- 93151311
+>>93145923 (OP)
+it's the shit when it comes to screens, but wait a couple more years if you're worried about burn-in. the tech should mature and get cheaper.
+--- 93151342
+>>93146053
+You heard that from retards. There have been more than enough extensive tests and OLED response times are top tier.
+--- 93151358
+>>93151311
+>the tech should mature and get cheaper.
+it already has, brainlet.
+--- 93151609
+>>93151358
+4-5x the price of any VA or IPS panel, my big brained friend. still very expensive, enthusiast-level tech.
+--- 93151730
+>>93146510
+I'm glad you have seen the light
+--- 93152827
+>>93145923 (OP)
+if you are a fidelityfag or allaroundfag they MIGHT be the sweetspot, like the 27" 240hz, alienware UW is a fidelityfag monitor
+yeah you will get burn in (out) on a long enough timespan, protip oled is a not a poorfag tech, lcds can also burn in in case you didnt know
+you should be more worried about oled flickering (might destroy your eyes), dimness of screen, pixel layouts, pixel refresh/firmware autism, osd controller autism
+>>93151342
+it's still sample and hold and the fastest oled you gonna find rn is 240hz and gets beaten by the 360hz and 500hz lcds, with or without strobing
+>>93148989
+>just use a thing that does not exist anymore or cant be bought
+crtniggs are all zoomers that never used crts back in the day frfrnocap
+>>93149193
+just buy the xg2431 and use 60hz strobing retard if you wanna enjoy the flickershit
+--- 93153115
+>>93152827
+>crtniggs are all zoomers that never used crts back in the day frfrnocap
+Even if it was true, how is this an argument? 
+Someone with no prior experience and preconception finds the older technology to be superior to new garbage, isn't that just validating the CRTfag's points?
+>just buy the xg2431 and use 60hz strobing retard if you wanna enjoy the flickershit
+900:1 contrast with lower resolution than my CRT.
+Why CRTs are being compared despite their unavailability is to tell you consumerist zoomies to demand something at least as good a CRTs.
+--- 93153210
+>>93152827
+>oled flickering (might destroy your eyes)
+never heard of it, what is it ? how do it hurt your eyes ?
+--- 93153239
+>>93145923 (OP)
+>he's generating 4k AI images on a 1080p led. 
+ngmi
+--- 93153409
+>>93153115
+>Even if it was true, how is this an argument?
+because only a minority had the good crts to begin with and the rest were shit and they keep talking about products that dont exist
+>900:1 contrast with lower resolution than my CRT.
+I gave you the option for crt like motion in 2023, but its not good enough
+>Why CRTs are being compared despite their unavailability is to tell you consumerist zoomies to demand something at least as good a CRTs.
+use strobing for 60hz content
+>>93153210
+because atleast the qdoled has (imperceptible*) flicker that might wear out your eyeballs, it's how the display refreshes, if you record it with a high speed camera you can see the flickers
+also a ton of other lcd displays might burn out your eyes and give you headaches and eyestrain too depending on the reason
+but it's a possibility that may or may not happen
+>How?
+flicker=Not good for eyes
+--- 93153595
+>>93145923 (OP)
+I will buy shitty 1080p TN panels until microLED 4k displays with 0.1ms response time and 256Hz are available
+--- 93153679
+>>93153595
+so 10 years
+--- 93153930
+>>93153409
+>I gave you the option for crt like motion in 2023, but its not good enough
+Is this good enough for you?
+--- 93153959
+>>93153930
+Yes, it's good.
+Better than any CRT I've seen in my life.
+I'm thirdie, I've seen a lot.
+--- 93154174
+>>93153959
+You've never actually used a CRT.
+Or if you did, you never figured out how the "brightness" and "contrast' controls work. And even then, every single CRT has way superior gray uniformity than that. Even the worst pieces of shits imaginable.
+--- 93154192
+>>93153959
+lmao
+--- 93154439
+>>93145923 (OP)
+Viewing content is great, and there's really no disputing that but what people neglect to tell you other than burn-in and this thread doesn't even have one mention of is the fact that text on these monitors SUCK big time because of the pixel structures used to prevent burn-in and improve yields where Microsoft's Cleartype doesn't have support for them. So you get blurriness and fuzziness and that sucks in a monitor setting. See HDTV's Vincent explaining it here in the first minute or so of this video and it's not unique to the Alienware. 
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVgUosc-64U [Embed]
+
+You can do advanced tweaking to Cleartype but that is beyond most casual people's ability to do.
+--- 93154576
+>>93154439
+>10 minutes video including 2 minutes promotion segment to list 5 points
+I hate modern youtube
+--- 93154594
+>>93154576
+They're all fags who yap like women.
+--- 93154775
+>>93145923 (OP)
+OLED is OLED, it will look fantastic (better than anything non-OLED can offer) but there is a risk of burn in.
+The risk of burn in is higher the higher the brightness and the more areas of the screen display the same thing all the time.
+So personally I'd get an OLED TV, phone or tablet because they show different things and spend most of the time off, unlike my computer monitor which is going to be on a lot more and show static stuff more often.
+Of course care will have your stuff last longer.
+--- 93154940
+>>>/ctrg/
+--- 93155185
+>>93153930
+you have the 60hz motion clarity like you wanted, dont move the goalpoast to other memes
+compared to a thing that only exists in your mind currently, yes I would say it's better by purely existing
+>>93154192
+buy an oled tv with bfi
+--- 93155237
+>>93155185
+>you have the 60hz motion clarity like you wanted, dont move the goalpoast to other memes
+>compared to a thing that only exists in your mind currently, yes I would say it's better by purely existing
+The goalpost has always been to get a display that's actually better than a CRT in every reasonable way. But nothing like that exists. 
+>buy an oled tv with bfi
+They don't sell any that can do 60hz anymore. 
+And even if they did like the LG CX, it's worse quality motion and also dimmer than a good CRT.
+--- 93155300
+and what is the color reproduction of CRT? nothing short of shit.
+--- 93155338
+>>93155300
+It's excellent. Every decent CRT was made for color-critical work. To this day we use the average CRT color performance as the golden standard for color (sRGB).
+--- 93155366
+Oled is good
+--- 93155417
+>>93155338
+>Every decent CRT
+>wow rare professional grade hardware. cheap i guess?
+now show normal consumer CRTs
+and show HDR reproduction
+--- 93155436
+holy fuck /g/ is actually retarded.
+--- 93155462
+>>93155417
+>now show normal consumer CRTs
+As long as the CRT monitor has good enough to have proper voltage regulation, it'll excel at color. Any mid-tier unit from the better brands will do colors just as well as the top-of-the line professional units, with a few exceptions.
+--- 93155537
+>>93146612
+Sigh...here we go again.
+
+There isn't a "chance" of burn-in with OLED, because it is NOT the same as CRT/plasma, which could LITERALLY burn-in the image onto the phosphors of the glass.
+
+OLED "burn-in" shouldn't even be called that, it is actually uneven pixel wear that because noticeable due to a certain area of the screen being used more than others, i.e. if you watch a tv station that has logos or bars in one area all the time, those pixels will age faster than the ones around it. Same thing applies to video games or desktop usage.
+
+There ARE "mitigations" in place to slow down the noticeable uneven pixel wear, but all OLEDs will eventually turn to shit due to the inherent low lifespan of the organic materials.
+
+These are all undisputed facts, and whether or not these facts and compromises are worth the "perfect blacks" is up to you.
+--- 93155568
+>>93155462
+Now turn on some ambient light and adjust your camera exposure to something similar to what your eyes actually see
+--- 93155598
+>>93155462
+You're saying the one on the left is OLED? lol
+--- 93155761
+>>93155237
+>The goalpost has always been to get a display that's actually better than a CRT in every reasonable way. But nothing like that exists.
+ignoring every part of crt that was shit though and only looking at top end crts that basically no one had
+but maybe my memory is scuffed now after all these years, but the ones I had werent even good
+>They don't sell any that can do 60hz anymore.
+>And even if they did like the LG CX, it's worse quality motion and also dimmer than a good CRT.
+a 60-120hz BFI 4k OLED is worse than an ancient CRT
+what is shit that only CRTfags says
+but yeah idk
+--- 93155790
+>>93155462
+Obviously the left monitor is playing a heavily compressed stream.
+--- 93155807
+>>93155598
+Here's an OLED and a CRT
+--- 93155828
+>>93155761
+>ignoring every part of crt that was shit though and only looking at top end crts that basically no one had
+But I have them. A few of them actually. 
+As far as I'm concerned there's nothing better available than my 20 year old tubes. 
+>a 60-120hz BFI 4k OLED is worse than an ancient CRT
+>what is shit that only CRTfags says
+It's still blurry as all hell
+--- 93155889
+>>93155828
+>But I have them. A few of them actually.
+then continue shilling products that nobody has access to or cant buy
+>It's still blurry as all hell
+buy a xg2431
+--- 93155898
+>>93155807
+>analyzing poor quality picture
+>win 7 fag
+Lmao, so this is the power of the crtranny. Go get a Spyder.
+--- 93155907
+>>93155807
+>comparison by color picking a heavily compressed picture taken in the dark
+>off pixels are still brighter!
+lmao just stop man. Stay sour grapes with your shitRT's.
+--- 93155925
+>>93155889
+>buy a xg2431
+Dogshit contrast
+>then continue shilling products that nobody has access to or cant buy
+I don't want to be using 20 year old CRTs. I want something new. But nothing new is worth it over my CRTs. 
+
+>>93155898
+>spyder 
+lmao
+I own a X-rite colorimeter, nigger. Spyders are dogshit that still use organic filters that disintegrate in 2 years.
+--- 93155956
+>>93155925
+>Dogshit contrast
+that was the solution for 60hz legacy content strobing memes
+now I say again, buy an oled (with strobing)
+>I don't want to be using 20 year old CRTs. I want something new. But nothing new is worth it over my CRTs.
+nope seems you are content coping on 4:3 boxes
+--- 93155962
+>>93155925
+You don't. Otherwise you wouldn't need to do the extreme faggotry like taking a picture and MS Paint the color value.
+--- 93156098
+>>93155962
+>You don't.
+Yes I do.
+>therwise you wouldn't need to do the extreme faggotry like taking a picture and MS Paint the color value.
+You asked for a side-by-side with an OLED. It's a picture that has circulated around here for years, are you so new you didn't notice that the timestamp is from a whole different unix epoch? 
+
+>>93155956
+>60hz legacy content
+Legacy content such as Elden Ring, Legacy content such as every single AAA game with high settings? Legacy content such as literally every single 2D game ever made? I've yet to find a single 2D game that actually has its motion interpolated from its tickrate (usually 60hz) to the refresh-rate. 
+>now I say again, buy an oled (with strobing)
+And I say again, they don't sell them anymore.
+--- 93156185
+>>93154439
+It's only an issue on Windows and you can just use MacType. This stuff is easily solvable if you aren't a retard.
+--- 93156229
+>>93156098
+>And I say again, they don't sell them anymore.
+I know, you should have bought them when they were on sale, buy an used one, still easier than buying CRTs, or wait for new BFI oleds, or just buy an oled if you can cope without the BFI, but that is too blurry for you, for which I again refer back to the xg2431, which again is too low contrast for you, which I again refer you back to oleds, and so forth
+>Legacy content
+or maybe I was thinking of 30fps, I think xg2431 can strobe so low too, either way the flicker must be bad at that rate
+well if you wanna play ancient shit smear free, use your CRT I guess, isnt the flicker bad at lower hz too though? idk I forget
+maybe you are right after all, well Imma just deal with the blurring i dont care that much, for now
+--- 93156238
+>>93156098
+Elden Ring has unlocked framerate.
+AAA games run at higher framerate than 60FPS.
+There are a shit ton of 2D games with interpolation, e.g. Touhou Blooming Chaos. Dug yourself out from under the rock. It's not 2010 anymore.
+--- 93156291
+>>93155237
+>They don't sell any that can do 60hz anymore.
+
+All the newer LGs still have 60hz BFI. They removed 120hz.
+--- 93156355
+>>93145923 (OP)
+>same price as a C2
+I have trouble finding arguments in favor of those QD-OLED
+--- 93156369
+>>93156229
+>or wait for new BFI oleds
+We've been waiting for OLEDs for 20 years already. And we're still waiting.
+
+>>93156238
+>Elden Ring has unlocked framerate.
+With mods that prevent you from playing online.
+Though so do the aspect ratio mods to make that game run 4:3 ...
+>AAA games run at higher framerate than 60FPS.
+Enable higher settings and it wont. 
+But even if you don't you wont be running those games faster than 120fps which still has plenty motion blur. You need like 400fps+ to make it actually insignificant enough, 1000fps+ to make it CRT-quality. 
+Or I could just use a CRT and play it at 60-85hz. 
+
+>>93156291
+Oh I misremember it to be the other way around. But that 60hz bfi mode was cut-down too iirc? 
+Regardless my CRT strobes any refresh rate from 50hz to 200hz. Not being able strobe particularly at 85hz is a huge limitation. It's the perfect refresh rate, low system requirements for perfect motion with no flicker.
+--- 93156474
+>>93156369
+>Enable higher settings and it wont.
+>low system requirements
+
+CRT defenders are really just poor people coping isn't it
+--- 93156488
+>>93145923 (OP)
+An LCD can run 16 a days with static windows open for 10 years+ and only lose some brightness, whereas an OLED will DEFINITELY burn in by that point. Knowing that, you should plan accordingly based on how you use it.
+Personally I have an LCD I use as a primary display for all my desktop apps, and an OLED as a secondary display for when I want to play games or watch a show or movie, or for playing youtube videos.
+--- 93156528
+>>93156474
+Not even an argument.
+--- 93156589
+Bros, I have a DVI monitor. Will it work properly with an HDMI adapter on a new rig?
+--- 93156593
+>>93156589
+DVI-A or DVI-D?
+--- 93156673
+>>93156593
+DVI-D, also has a "D-sub" port, not sure what it is, but looks like VGA.
+--- 93156753
+>>93145923 (OP)
+It's both. It's going to be the best monitor you ever bought until it burns in from the horrendous assrape regular PC use is going to give it. Once you've got an image burned in, it will no longer be the best monitor you ever bought.
+
+>>93146612
+Burn-in is cumulative since it's a degradation of the screen itself, if you keep displaying the same thing in the same place it will burn in - even if you don't do it for 12h straight every time. If you have common usage patterns on your PC, it will burn in eventually. Almost everyone has these, like using a web browser, common programs used for actual work, UIs from games you play regularly, just the regular OS task bar, notification area, even the "pattern" of tiling windows on half the screen and so on. It's not like a TV where one could just use it to display full-screen video all the time, where common UI patterns and so on do not exist. Dark mode is a good idea of course, but even dark mode tends to have brighter icons and buttons and such which will eventually burn in.
+
+>>93154174
+The problem with CRTs is that their screen is actually grey, so they are completely incapable of displaying anything close to black if there is any light in the room at all. This means they have shit contrast under all practical use case scenarios, unless you want to completely rape your own eyes by viewing it in a pitch black room and only at night.
+--- 93156774
+>>93156673
+it is vga yes
+--- 93156878
+>>93156753
+>The problem with CRTs is that their screen is actually grey, so they are completely incapable of displaying anything close to black if there is any light in the room at all. This means they have shit contrast under all practical use case scenarios, unless you want to completely rape your own eyes by viewing it in a pitch black room and only at night.
+Since CRTs are only good for games and such, it's perfectly okay to make special accommodations for them. Sure, if it was a daily driving monitor, I'd worry about ambient tolerance but I just don't daily drive CRTs. 
+You also don't need pitch black, just make sure the light source is behind the CRT.
+--- 93156886
+>>93156185
+I agree but it marks it in early adopter territory. It's not ideal stacking on top there is no BFI/strobing or any other picture quality control other than presets. I wouldn't hop on QD-OLED until it is in gen 3 or something.
+--- 93156892
+>>93156673
+It'll work just fine with an HDMI-DVI-D adapter
+--- 93156947
+>>93156774
+>>93156892
+thanks
+--- 93157088
+>>93156886
+That's just being a shitty monitor and not really anything to do with OLED. I wouldn't trust QD-OLED yet until those RTING burn in tests are done either though. They added the Alienware to their tests after the Samsung and Sony QD-OLEDs got burn in.
+
+If you're fine with a larger screen the 42" C2 with ColorControl is 100% better and gives you fine tune control that you can change with keybinds.
+--- 93157396
+>>93155338
+*laughs in bt2100*

g/93146298.txt

@@ -18,3 +18,135 @@ Modern C: https://files.catbox.moe/xeb93p.pdf
 Standards:
 C89: https://files.catbox.moe/rfqd57.pdf
 C99: https://files.catbox.moe/hs2tqa.pdf
+--- 93147674
+> Starts thread at 2 am
+Why yes I am retarded
+--- 93147781
+>>93147674
+It's 4pm in Yurostan
+--- 93148765
+bump
+hello fellow Chads
+post your favourite compiler flags here (msvc passfags need not reply)
+--- 93149429
+https://nullprogram.com/blog/2023/04/29/
+--- 93149662
+#include <stdio.h>
+void main(){
+ printf("Im a C programmer");
+}
+--- 93150517
+>>93148765
+-O3 -march=native -pipe
+--- 93150726
+Learning C basics is fast, but mastering it require years of practice
+--- 93151402
+>>93150517
+> open make.conf
+> see -O3
+--- 93151852
+Anyone writing neural networks or LLM in C? It seems sometimes “data scientists” seem to hide their poor understanding of what they do behind all these implementations in python that wrap C++. Honestly even the c++ implemtations are misguided attempts at software engineering that look like obfuscated attempts to hide a lack of knowledge.
+--- 93152002
+>>93151852
+I'm sure there are data scientists (or analysts or engineers or whatever you would like to call them) who accept the black box nature of the tools they choose to use, as you say. They likely know the purpose of the tools and what they do, and have cohesive plans to use them though. To them the implementation isn't important and they trust it is a faithful implementation. How would this be hiding their lack of knowledge? Should "data scientists" know their tools to the machine code level? Is that what you specialize in, the software engineering rather than inference?
+--- 93153313
+>>93147674
+> Doesn't understand that other time zones exist and that anon is probably not the neighbor
+Why yes I am retarded
+--- 93153656
+Be careful not to let the thread die in the future! Its a shame this board moves so fast that it can get killed in under three hours.
+--- 93154883
+>>93151852
+>Anyone writing neural networks or LLM in C?
+No but I plan to in the future, I thought about using OpenBLAS to handle the linear algebra. Anyone here has experience using the library and if so would you recommend it?
+--- 93155369
+>>93151402
+I'm currently installing gentoo with O3 on a crappy intel core 2 duo.
+It's supposed to be an unstable experimental build, that's the point.
+--- 93155794
+is it time for a new GUI toolkit that doesn't suck?
+
+what would you like to see in one?
+--- 93155976
+>>93155369
+-O3 doesn't mean neither unstable nor experimental. It is just GCC was historically very bad at this level. Actually, since they moved -ftree-vectorize from -O3 to -O2, even -O2 is now bad. Unfortunately, vectorization is bad in GCC.
+--- 93156010
+...
+p = malloc(...);
+if (!p)
+        /* print message and exit */
+/* do something with p */
+free(p);
+...
+p = malloc(...);
+if (!p)
+        /* print message and exit */
+/* do something with p */
+free(p);
+...
+
+Is there another way to deal with checking if malloc succeeded after each time its called?
+--- 93156047
+>>93148765
+-O2 -fno-tree-vectorize -flto -fno-semantic-interposition -fno-plt
+
+--- 93156075
+>>93151852
+https://twitch.tv/videos/1807830663
+--- 93156084
+>>93156010
+Use a separate function that exists on failure. Or restructure your code:
+    void *p1 = NULL, *p2 = NULL;
+    p1 = malloc(...);
+    if (!p1) goto cleanup;
+
+    p2 = malloc(...);
+    if (!p2) goto cleanup;
+
+cleanup:
+    free(p1);
+    free(p2);
+    return ...;
+
+--- 93156197
+>>93156010
+Reduce your calls to malloc as much as possible and you would only have to check failure once.
+But with a simple macro you can do what you want
+#include <stdint.h>
+#include <stdio.h>
+#include <stdlib.h>
+#define TRY_MALLOC(var, size)                                                                \
+    do {                                                                                     \
+        (var) = malloc(size);                                                                \
+        if (!(var)) {                                                                        \
+            printf("ERROR: Failed to allocate variable " #var " in %s:%d (%s)", __FILE__, \
+                   __LINE__, __FUNCTION__);                                                  \
+            exit(EXIT_FAILURE);                                                              \
+        }                                                                                    \
+    } while (0);
+
+int main(void)
+{
+    int* ptr;
+    TRY_MALLOC(ptr, SIZE_MAX);
+    free(ptr);
+}
+
+--- 93156481
+Is there any open source project that I can look at for good C code and practices?
+
+>>93156084
+>>93156197
+Thanks, Anons <3
+--- 93156564
+>>93156481
+suckless is good. rxi on github has a bunch of cool little projects, more beginner friendly imo
+--- 93157055
+I'm trying to bind a compile-time integer value to a symbol with a fixed name. This is without using #define, so that my macros and static_asserts can access the value. Basically trying to hack in constexpr. The best I can come up with is the size of a NULL array pointer:
+#define ENC(X) char (*heyo)[X] = NULL
+#define DEC(X) sizeof(*heyo)
+
+
+Is there a less retarded way?
+--- 93157253
+reminder not to read K. N. King if you value your time or dignity.

g/93146465.txt

@@ -56,3 +56,157 @@ Obsolete since the mid 1980s.
 --- 93146723
 all those literally can be achived with stacking wm without using meme tiling shit where you cant even put window over window
 nice "efficient use of screen space" there you faggot where i cant even place mpv over my browser window
+--- 93147003
+>>93146723
+>all those literally can be achived with stacking wm without using meme tiling shit where you cant even put window over window
+You have never used tiling WMs. DWM for example allows you to switch between floating mode and tiling mode. Also, if you want to put one window over another just throw it in another tag. It's more organized that way and you can switch between specific tags with one shortcut, so you can reduce or eliminate shortcut spamming to switch between windows.
+--- 93147263
+>>93147003
+I did all this and more
+>4 years on i3
+>2 years on sway
+>6 months on hyprland
+
+Now I just added pop_shell to gnome and it's comfier than anything else out there
+
+throw in space_bar extension and you're golden
+--- 93147280
+waddup tilers.
+
+what we tiling today?
+--- 93147282
+>>93146465 (OP)
+>/twm/ - Tiling Window Managers
+meme shit and a meme thread.
+GNOME > all
+--- 93147339
+hey tilers, how do you like my non tiler desktop?
+--- 93147369
+>>93147003
+or how about i just use stacking wm instead of having autism. i like benefits of wms that they give on performance. but i also not tinker tranny
+--- 93147403
+>>93147280
+this made me laugh, thanks anon
+--- 93147439
+> Freedom from the mouse
+
+This is funny, considering DWM doesn't even have keys for moving or resizing floating windows. Ah yes, there's a patch...
+
+> High customizability
+
+code editing is not the same as customizability actually built into software
+most tilers have zero user-visible customizability
+
+> Efficient use of screen space
+
+Let's make this mostly empty window half the size of your screen, no pixels go to waste!
+--- 93147550
+>>93147263
+>I did all this and more
+Then why did you say you can't even put window over window considering that's clearly false? If you really "did all this and more" your post is dishonest.
+--- 93147816
+>dwm
+Comfiest software I've ever used. There's just no bullshit, and it comes with everything I need without patches. Everything I need being tags, a clock and the date. It feels good to know that if I want to add functionality or remove it, I can.
+
+Inb4 tinker tranny reddit onions manchildren
+--- 93148764
+>>93146652
+>Obsolete since the mid 1980s.
+Tiling wms have *never* been mainstream, not even back then. I have no idea why tiling wm fans try to push this idea that they are somehow "old school", old computer desktops didn't look like that at all.
+--- 93148796
+>>93147263
+Same. I used tiling window managers exclusively for a little over a year, tried most of the popular ones. Eventually, I concluded that they are not more productive, contrary to what I had heard, went back to floating and never looked back.
+
+It also doesn't help that most popular tiling window managers are overly minimal and require nontrivial amounts of configuration to make them usable. No, it's not hard, but it's annoying and completely unnecessary.
+--- 93148871
+Others using tiling window managers sure is making some people mad.
+--- 93148916
+>>93147816
+I've been meaning to switch out of dwm for a while to xmonads but cba
+biggest missing feature is scratchpad where I can dump windows and then bring them back when needed
+also consodering just going back to KDE, worst thing there is the taskbar. I do love the customized dwm taskbar which shows some system stats as well (cpu, ram, disk ...)
+--- 93149122
+>>93147439
+>This is funny, considering DWM doesn't even have keys for moving or resizing floating windows. Ah yes, there's a patch...
+lol retard
+
+dwm pro tip:
+map Function keys 1-8 to switching to your 8 tags. theyre wasted space otherwise. have been doing this for over 6 years now
+--- 93149288
+>>93149122
+what does tag switching have to do with window moving?
+--- 93149301
+>>93147282
+bash : command not found: GNOME
+--- 93149384
+>>93147550
+>Then why did you say you can't even put window over window considering that's clearly false?
+There is a difference between "possible" and "just works". I don't want to have to hold super, set up rules, accept that floating windows are always on top of tiling ones, etc.
+
+I'd much rather have a stacking wm with a good tiling script (most of them can do half-quarter tiling out of the box already) than a tiling wm which tries to half-ass floating window.
+--- 93149399
+>>93148916
+xmonad deliberately refuses to implement fullscreen properly, don't bother.
+--- 93149418
+>>93149301
+>i deliberately misinterpreted a "greater than" sign as a shell redirection operator, i'm so smart!!!11
+--- 93149615
+>>93149418
+>i deliberately go and shit up threads regarding topics I have no interest in. I am so quirky!!!
+--- 93149901
+>>93146465 (OP)
+How easy is it to set up a 2x2 workspace grid in these tiling window managers?
+I've been using KDE + Krohnkite for a good while without any issues, but the upcoming KDE release is going to change KWin to the point where a lot of the scripts won't work properly.
+So I'm wondering if there's a good twm alternative
+--- 93150027
+>>93146465 (OP)
+>dwm
+>Slightly higher learning curve than most other twms, basic knowledge of C is
+this is simply wrong. i know absolutely zero C, and refuse to learn C, and i use dwm every single day. you don't need to know any C to use it. also this project makes things SO easy: https://github.com/bakkeby/dwm-flexipatch
+--- 93150388
+>>93149901
+Do you NEED it to be a 2x2 grid? Cause if you don't then you can just have stuff across 4 workspaces horizontally. Otherwise just stick with krohnkite
+--- 93150565
+>>93150388
+I don't NEED it, but I WANT it. So I guess I'll just stick with krohnkite.
+--- 93150753
+>>93149399
+I never use full screen so not a problem
+--- 93152103
+>>93150027
+This. Been using it for 4 years, couldn't write anything "basic" in C to save my life.
+--- 93153695
+is it high time to switch to hyprland bros?
+--- 93153743
+>>93153695
+gonna wait for the equivalent of LARBS to show up
+I will not waste my time configuring stuff from the ground up
+--- 93154867
+There is something fundamentally wrong with the thought process of a tile user. No sane man decides it is reasonable to manipulate window container trees instead of interacting with windows directly. Nor does a sane man desire his well sized windows to constantly change shape and position. Nor does a sane man care whether display space is always used maximally.
+--- 93155855
+I use a tilling WM with rounded corners so I can jerk off to the corner intersections between windows
+--- 93156472
+>>93146465 (OP)
+add it
+https://github.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi
+--- 93157105
+>>93146465 (OP)
+I switched to i3 for my work machine 6 years ago and I will never go back to a DE.
+--- 93157134
+>>93155855
+uuuooooohhhhhh
+--- 93157207
+>>93148871
+>do something stupid because you’re being weird
+>people with normal socialization ask why you are being weird
+>you supply not good reason except fuck you normies
+>why do normies hate me
+Why is Asperger’s like this?
+--- 93157235
+Never used a WM. Is Hyprland easy to configure if I'm not a programmer?
+--- 93157251
+>>93157235
+The format is shitty but requires no coding. Wiki covers all the options
+--- 93157287
+>>93157207
+tiling wm is obvious, it's how interfaces work in real life, stacking wm is a lot more weird, like, who even came up with that

g/93146556.txt

@@ -8,3 +8,381 @@ You will never be a real API. You have no software, you have no games, you have
 All the “validation” you get is from /v/ermin using RGB lit zoomerware. Behind your back boomers mock you. DX8 and DX9-11 are disgusted and ashamed of you, your OpenGL counterparts laugh at your appearance behind well optimized, real software of the past.
 
 Both software devs and 3D modelers are utterly repulsed by you. Decades of evolution have allowed DX9-11 to shine. Even your DX12 instruction set looks uncanny and unnatural to a software dev. Your lack of backwards compatibility with legacy hardware is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get something to work, it'll immediately crash and burn compared to stability of OpenGL
+--- 93146906
+>>93146556 (OP)
+lmao, now you get to decouple the tutorial code to enable basic things like multiple pipelines :^)
+have fun
+--- 93146921
+>>93146556 (OP)
+>. Will it get less painful using it after I have all the bloated boilerplate code set up once?
+it helps but it's still shitty. and i mean incredibly shitty.
+> why are all the modern games running like shit?
+not enough testing before release.
+--- 93146969
+>>93146906
+opeNGL I might just quit.
+--- 93146988
+>>93146556 (OP)
+>modern games running like shit?
+
+Krita relies on Ogl and runs horribly. The Ogl legacy is unironically killing the project and they don't have the balls to rewrite the engine in Vulkan to enable the required performance. Meanwhile their feature-inferiour competitors are selling their software under a subscription and an always oline DRM just because CSP runs and Krita doesnt.
+--- 93147016
+>>93146556 (OP)
+>why are all the modern games running like shit?
+Testing, optimisation, and bugfixes are mainly done towards the end of production, when the budget dries up and publishers are breathing down your neck trying to recoup their investment. At that point you have two options - ask for more time (read: money), or release whatever you have right now to get cash flowing again.
+Which one do you think a corpo rat is gonna pick?
+--- 93147051
+>>93146988
+it might also help that CSP's brush stabilizer isn't a steaming pile of shit. Fucking Drawpile has better pen input than Krita.
+--- 93147061
+Vulkan is for a team of graphics engineer, not a solodev who just wants to make a game.
+Unless you really know what you're doing, your Vulkan code is going to end up being even slower than OpenGL.
+--- 93147095
+>>93146969
+it's not that bad. You just have to take small wins, commit valid changes often, and be patient. Things do eventually start going faster once you've refactored the tutorial code out into something more proper/modular. 
+Vulkan is a great exercise in cultivating a good code-base, but it's really not for anyone not serious about long-term investing. Just never make sweeping changes, and regularly refactor small things to keep code-rot out.
+--- 93147138
+>>93147051
+That's actually user error.
+--- 93147178
+>>93146988
+>rewrite the engine in Vulkan
+kill yourself tranny and your vulkan
+--- 93147198
+>>93147178
+>vulkan is finally cleansing pajeets in the graphics industry
+--- 93147202
+>>93147198
+i bet you like rewriting linux in rust too to compensate for your bleeding neo vag
+--- 93147272
+>Example code: This is the repository where the example code for the Vulkan Programming Guide will live. Bare with us while we polish it public display. We will be with you shortly...
+>7 years ago
+https://github.com/vulkanprogrammingguide/examples
+
+Even one of the guys who made the Vulkan driver at AMD gave up.
+--- 93147314
+>>93147272
+don't need it.
+we have sascha kino instead
+https://github.com/SaschaWillems/Vulkan
+--- 93147766
+>>93147314
+>https://github.com/SaschaWillems/Vulkan/blob/master/examples/triangle/triangle.cpp
+kek
+--- 93147784
+>>93147766
+i WILL render the triangle at 10k FPS
+--- 93147842
+>>93147061
+My Vulkan renderer is somewhat faster than my old AZDO OpenGL renderer, although the API itself didn't contribute that much, being able to do compute culling on the GPU is extremely useful. At any rate it certainly isn't slower.
+--- 93147876
+>>93147766
+Has someone saved that image with opengl triangle in 10 lines of code vs vukan triangle in 1kloc?
+--- 93147900
+Ok. So what is the lowest level API on top of Vulkan that is actully viable for just game dev? I once made a rasterizer and managed to make it pretty generic. Surely I was re-inventing the wheel.
+--- 93148054
+>>93147900
+- bgfx
+- Dawn, Google's implementation of WebGPU can target Vulkan.
+- wgpu-native by Rust folks.
+--- 93148080
+>>93147900
+cringe and contradictory to vulkan
+--- 93148175
+>>93147900
+>game dev
+>>>/v/
+and take your shit api with you, fucking worthless /v/ermin
+--- 93148198
+>>93148175
+what else are you gonna use Vulkan for retard
+--- 93148238
+>>93147766
+ЛA MAГИКA
+--- 93148267
+>>93147900
+>So what is the lowest level API on top of Vulkan that is actully viable for just game dev?
+Just Vulkan. At a higher level there's Magnum, but I'm not sure if Magnum's Vulkan version is done yet.
+
+> I once made a rasterizer and managed to make it pretty generic. Surely I was re-inventing the wheel.
+Most likely you were, if you were aiming to make a generic renderer.
+
+Personally my renderer is tailored very specifically towards the exact scene layout I have, so performance is likely better than I would get if using, say, Unreal or Unity. But that's because, knowing the exact workings of the scene I'm dealing with, I can make optimization choices that wouldn't necessarily work for a more generic scene, and bake certain tasks into my renderer to be done in a very fast, efficient way, that might not be the case if doing externally (for example, recolouring objects on the fly). And similarly, a generic renderer will rely on techniques that might not work for the type of scene I'm dealing with. If you are making a generic renderer, then a premade generic renderer would probably work as well or better and you're reinventing the wheel. If you need a renderer for a very specific type of scene then it may be advantageous to make your own.
+--- 93148347
+Does OpenGL even have real fullscreen? No matter what I do, the performance I get is lower than the cumulative time taken to complete individual drawcalls. It's as if some framebuffer mess happens in the background.
+--- 93148538
+>>93148198
+Modelling dilation sticks
+--- 93148595
+>i got filtered
+>better associate it and everyone using it with the 51% to deflect 
+pathetic
+--- 93148703
+>>93148347
+No, fullscreen is an OS/platform thing
+--- 93148725
+>>93148703
+I mean even on a per-OS basis. Neither GLX nor WGL seem to have official fullscreen parameters, unlike Vulkan.
+--- 93148883
+>>93147314
+>requires libraries outside of vulkan and your OS's windowing API
+you didn't draw the triangle
+--- 93148918
+>>93148883
+i binded XCB and some of vulkan in a memelang, so yeah i drew the triangle kid
+--- 93149343
+>>93148725
+It's fundamentally different with OpenGL. With OpenGL the OS owns the context.
+--- 93149614
+>>93148267
+>Magnum Vulkan
+it's not, I tried it. Great library but the Vulkan part still needs more work. 
+
+I find https://vkguide.dev/ better than vulkan-tutorial. He uses VMA which makes the memory shit way easier. You start learning Vulkan for real when you go beyond the tutorial and change the structure of the code entirely (to support multiple pipelines and other stuff)
+--- 93150611
+>>93146988
+none of that is true https://valdyas.org/fading/hacking/krita-hacking/krita-opengl-and-qt/ there will most likely be a wegbpu backend as well so maybe krita in browser if qt supports it.
+--- 93150695
+to be honest, is opengl even that bad? youre just throwing triangles at the gpu and then running pixel shaders. i swear even opengl 2.0 was sufficient for that?
+i thought vulkan was more of a cross-platform cuda-esque solution.
+--- 93150769
+>>93146556 (OP)
+soon it will get easier https://www.khronos.org/blog/you-can-use-vulkan-without-pipelines-today
+--- 93150770
+>>93150695
+opengl leaves you at the mercy of the driver dev, with dx12 and vk you have more control. Not everyone needs the extra control. In an ideal world OpenGL 4.6 would work everywhere but you're forced to use Vulkan and MoltenVK these days thanks to Apple being shit.
+--- 93150830
+>>93150695
+opengl is a blackbox state machine that you're constantly fighting, and gives you no freedom to do much of anything at comp time or deterministically.
+Recordable command buffers in vulkan (and DX) are very nice in this regard.
+--- 93150974
+>>93146556 (OP)
+
+doom runs really well.
+i can run it on ultra on my shitty laptop
+medium with standard renderer
+--- 93151121
+In the next few years, it will all be raytraced; and we will forget this abomination.
+--- 93151134
+>>93151121
+if you don't understand how graphics apis work don't post
+--- 93151422
+>>93146556 (OP)
+https://github.com/DiligentGraphics/DiligentEngine
+--- 93151456
+>>93151121
+yeah bro, vulkan is even easier when you remove the raster pipeline!
+https://github.com/WilliamLewww/vulkan_ray_tracing_minimal_abstraction/blob/master/ray_pipeline/src/main.cpp
+--- 93151737
+>>93150974
+doom runs on washing machines and fridges you fucking retard. it's not benchmarking game anymore it's not 1993. it's more of a sanity test game, whether machine in question can understand your code execution. and if it can, you port doom to it. it's been meme for at least 15-20 years now
+--- 93151756
+>>93151737
+i think he's talking about the newer dooms.
+Especially since modern id exclusively use Vulkan on PC these days
+--- 93151774
+>>93151756
+im not surprised. after carmack left, doom was nothing but shit show
+--- 93152086
+How does shader shit work with all those cross platform engines? Do you have to write shader code for each platform or do they have their own shitty shader language that abstract everything away?
+--- 93152114
+>>93152086
+shaders run on the GPU, so platform doesn't matter.
+--- 93152135
+>>93152086
+It's actually implemented partly in the driver and partly in the firmware. The GPU-specific assembly is proprietary and changes on every device, and the compiler internals are usually not available to end users.
+--- 93152188
+>>93152114
+>>93152135
+What I meant was the platform specific shader shit. If you target only Vulkan you are golden, but those cross platform engines target vulkan, opengl, d3d, metal, switch, ps5 and whatever else comes along.
+--- 93152231
+>>93146556 (OP)
+it's a lower level api, of course it's more verbose and complicated. if you just want to mess around on your own stick with opengl
+--- 93152287
+>>93152188
+There are different strategies. In some there's an engine-specific shader language that gets translated to the target shader language. In others you really have to write each shader for each target separately. Another approach is to use automatic translators to translate the shaders from whatever the user decided to work with into the other targets.
+--- 93152305
+>>93152231
+One does not imply the other. Low-level GUI APIs are typically orders of magnitude simpler than high-level ones.
+--- 93152347
+Once you have the 1000 lines for the triangle, does the amount of code required go down to opengl levels, or is it just 100x as verbose all the way through?
+
+Is it possible that we could write code generators to spit out the boilerplate for the most common scenarios?
+
+Or are we just doomed to a future split between Metal and Directx?
+--- 93152364
+>>93152188
+Playstation uses a proprietary graphics API.
+Metal is its own thing because Apple love walled gardens. But you can use MoltenVK, which is a vulkan translation layer, but you lose perf by default, and is just not great.
+Switch supports Vulkan.
+Besides those, typically you keep HLSL shaders for DX, and GLSL for Opengl && Vulkan.
+SPIR-V (.spv), which is a shader IR for vulkan, is intended to be the "universal" format, which opengl can use it in 4.6. 
+glslc can compile .vert && .frag shaders to it.
+HLSL compiler(s) exist, but HLSL doesn't map cleanly.
+--- 93152381
+>>93152305
+wrong, low-level gui apis require you to keep track of a bunch of widgets, possibly to implement drawing and layout yourself.
+high-level ones just let you declaratively specify what you want your ui to be, sometimes even graphically.
+
+>inb4 immediate mode
+that's not really the low-level equivalent of high-level gui APIs, it's just a different way of doing that's simpler but inneficient
+--- 93152395
+>>93152381
+Thanks for proving you have no clue what any of the words anyone in this thread ever used (including yourself) actually mean.
+--- 93152418
+>>93151774
+i got the impression it was the other way around. rage had some megatexture-related autism and got delayed for years, and doom3 was a roleplay slogfest.
+the doom that got released after carmack left felt like a breath of fresh air.
+--- 93152430
+>>93152347
+100x as verbose all the way through.
+You can definitely do codegen to take care of a lot of the boilerplate, yes. DX12 is just as bad, and I hear metal should be the same but I have never looked at it.
+Future's grimmer than ever.
+Shit was so simple in the fixed function pipeline days and now look where we are. Horrifying. Ironically it would all be solved if they just exposed the GPU assembly and let us deal with GPU programs as we want.
+--- 93152456
+>>93152395
+lol, i'm the only one here with a job
+--- 93152465
+>>93152456
+You are a middle schooler.
+--- 93152483
+>>93146556 (OP)
+It's okay brainlet khronos walked back everything and added a new extension
+--- 93152491
+>>93152347
+Vulkan code doesn't grow exponentially like a lot of people wrongly extrapolate from the "muh 1k triangle" noise.
+It will NEVER be opengl or even close because you have to handle and define the pipeline explicitly, that was abstracted away in OGL's blackbox.
+But with proper abstractions, new features will vastly outweigh additional minimal code. 
+>Is it possible that we could write code generators
+most of the boilerplate has a lot of defaults that you'll hardly ever change, it's merely a matter of abstracting it away.
+--- 93152547
+>>93152430
+>exposed the GPU assembly and let us deal with GPU programs as we want.
+too many retarded game devs would fry GPUs, and we'd just end up right back at where we are now.
+Same reason we can't DMA anymore.
+--- 93152611
+>>93150830
+>>93150770
+If one has the patience to learn vulkan is it a better solution than opengl? Like 'it sucked to learn but wow this vehicle has such a better experience & capability'? Or is it basically just a pain?
+--- 93152681
+>>93146556 (OP)
+A great tool still doesn't do the job by itself if the developer is incompetent.
+--- 93152685
+>>93152547
+you can't fry gpus anymore than you can fry cpus. thermal protection either exists or it doesn't, regardless of the level of access that you have to the chip.
+--- 93152688
+>>93152547
+Do those same retarded game devs fry CPUs? Why not? We do have direct access to our CPUs' assembly, though?
+--- 93152717
+>>93152611
+Vulkan gives you more control and flexibility over the entire pipeline, but that's only useful in niche scenarios (for example unified computed and graphics or things like unreal's nanite or what people now call "gpu software rendering" where you write the whole pipeline into a compute pass rather than relying on the hardware pass workflow).
+--- 93152732
+>>93152681
+Nothing to do with competence here, slapping down boilerplate for hours on end for the most basic shit is pajeet-tier nonsense.
+--- 93152778
+Open Good Luck
+--- 93152846
+>>93152732
+The boilerplate isn't why modern games run like shit.
+--- 93152880
+>>93152491
+>new features
+Like what? What cool stuff can we achieve that wasn't possible with OGL other than targeting mobile? Not shit flinging here, just relatively new to graphics. I basically understand most of OpenGL but Vulkan is pretty foreign to me.
+
+>>93152717
+>nanite
+Would it be worthwhile digging around the Unreal source code and comparing nanite to the vulkan tutorial code? Or will it just basically all be gibberish to me?
+--- 93152894
+>>93152846
+It is, just not directly. Having to slap down boilerplate for hours makes getting motivated to optimize it all quite hard, for example. Also the more boilerplate there is, the harder it is to figure out which interactions are causing a slowdown (because it's all intertwined, so if function X is slow, it might actually be because of config Y in function Z, even though nothing else is affected around those sites).
+--- 93152901
+>>93146556 (OP)
+>why are all the modern games running like shit
+Because everyone good except Carmack was creating engines for consoles.
+
+id Tech is the only proper PC engine, everything else is either outright crap or made for consoles with a crap PC port.
+--- 93152916
+>>93152880
+>Or will it just basically all be gibberish to me?
+Probably this because the heavy lifting is entirely done in the shader, not in vulkan, and the vulkan stuff is deep in the backend and highly abstracted at this level.
+> other than targeting mobile?
+Mobile was on OpenGL ES for ages. Of course you can target mobile with opengl.
+--- 93152927
+wrong, still using dx9
+--- 93152995
+>>93152916
+>Mobile was on OpenGL ES for ages. Of course you can target mobile with opengl.
+Yeah I know but ES is a different (but related) API than opengl. With Vulkan you can use just one API.
+
+>>93152916
+>heavy lifting is entirely done in the shader, not in vulkan, and the vulkan stuff is deep in the backend and highly abstracted at this level.
+
+So how is it different from an opengl shader?
+--- 93153027
+>>93152894
+vulkan boilerplate is just populating structs. Performance issues are mostly synchronization and memory management related.
+Basic validation will yell at you for doing retarded newbie things. And `vkconfig` can then be used to enable further validation for intermediate-advanced issues.
+I truly wish people would stop armchair'ing vulkan, because it's one of those things that's extremely apparent when you've never actually touched it
+--- 93153067
+>>93152611
+Are you genuinely interested in graphics programming and want to build long-term projects? learn vulkan
+Do you just want to make things, and aren't as interested in the engineering beyond having made it yourself? Use opengl
+--- 93153099
+>>93153027
+t. never used vulkan, not even for a triangle hello world.
+--- 93153107
+>>93153099
+what color triangle do you want me to render?
+--- 93153112
+>>93152995
+>ES is a different (but related) API than opengl.
+No.
+>So how is it different from an opengl shader?
+It's similar to using opengl compute shaders and then passing the result back into a render pass except without this retarded and slowed down workflow.
+--- 93153127
+>>93153107
+Color of your hand, color of your colon, and color of your hair at each of the 3 vertices, pajeet.
+--- 93153177
+>>93153127
+:^)
+--- 93153206
+>>93152894
+And yet some devs produce Vulkan/DX12 games with absolutely excellent performance while others produce garbage which can hardly get 60FPS on a 4090 and whenever some emulator releases a Vulkan renderer performance goes through the roof. Did they get the secret "no boilerplate" patch for Vulkan/DX12, or could it be they're actually competent and can make good use of the tools they have at their disposal?
+--- 93153390
+No VK_EXT_shader_object with Mesa 23.0.2, how do we cope tuxsisters?
+--- 93153417
+>>93153390
+>VK_EXT_shader_object
+i shan't be using it
+--- 93153426
+>>93153177
+>couldn't even get it right even after copy-pasting a tutorial
+Yikes!
+--- 93153445
+>>93153206
+[citation needed]
+--- 93153490
+>>93153426
+>i know your colors
+bit creepy desu
+--- 93153672
+>>93153490
+Not as creepy as your curry smell permeating your posts :^)
+--- 93153718
+>>93153445
+Doom Eternal, runs on Vulkan and has excellent performance while looking very good too
+The world-famous disaster of Cyberpunk 2077 can somehow get playable 60+ FPS path tracing on DX12
+Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition on DX12 also has very impressive lighting and performs well too
+Meanwhile that Jedi game which just came out is also DX12 and gets 50FPS on a 4090 at native 4k with 50% GPU load and no amount of upscaling helps, because it's garbage
+RPCS3 performs best on Vulkan
+
+If you can't get good performance out of Vulkan/DX12, it's because you're shit at making games.
+--- 93153749
+>>93153718
+>doom eternal
+>performance not notoriously ludicrously shit
+Stopped reading there.
+--- 93156234
+>>93146556 (OP)
+>Will it get less painful using it after I have all the bloated boilerplate code set up once?
+Yes

g/93146675.txt

@@ -21,3 +21,184 @@ Does a modern distro this based exist, or will I have to build it myself?
 >>93146725
 >python package requires rust
 no
+--- 93146756
+>>93146675 (OP)
+AntiX fits most of the bill
+--- 93146764
+>>93146675 (OP)
+>No Pulseaudio/Pipewire, OSS only
+aaaaand you're a retard. you could just install artix and choose to avoid the packages you dislike and you'd have the system you described here, but have fun not being able to listen to multiple audio streams at once because you HAVE to use ALSA. faggot.
+--- 93146768
+>>93146725
+>>93146738
+but if you're ok skipping these, Gentoo does all of that
+
+It even has a wd40 profile feature which masks all rust packages, and you can disable about whatever you want through USE
+--- 93146783
+>>93146675 (OP)
+
+How is it possible to ban unsafe code, can someone explain this to me? Rust has no dynamic allocation of memory? How can the rust compiler be so smart that it is always safe?
+--- 93146787
+>>93146675 (OP)
+>It is time for a distro written purely in "traditional" technology.
+Why?
+
+>>93146742
+Yes.
+--- 93146866
+>>93146783
+The compiler doesn't verify it down to the bottom. You write a little bit of unsafe code, then you specify how to use it safely (using the type system), and then the compiler checks that all the other code follows the contract.
+External formal verification tools are used to verify some of the unsafe code. (These exist for C as well.) That's very tedious though.
+For dynamic memory allocation in particular the borrow checker is the crucial piece. Each reference has a lifetime as part of its type, and there's a compile-time check that this lifetime doesn't outlast the thing it's referencing, basically. There are some more rules and tools to plug all the holes and make it work for almost all cases.
+--- 93146902
+>>93146783
+The concept banning unsafe code only works on an abstract machine. Real processors with flaws like meltdown will be able to execute unsafe "safe" code quite trivially.
+
+>>93146787
+Because Boomer technologies are based. Cobol still runs your bank and government.
+--- 93146994
+>>93146902
+>Because Boomer technologies are based. Cobol still runs your bank and government.
+And what exactly connects COBOL to the bloated Unix kernel clone started by a CS student? Are you just cargo culting boomerism without aiming for anything coherent?
+--- 93147306
+>>93146994
+Boomer technology is less bloated, even just 25 years ago you could use a computer with 32 Megabytes of RAM and the internet was usable on just a 4 Kilobytes a second download speed.
+
+Now technology is a 1000 times "faster" technically, but also a 1000 times more bloated. The "learn to code" movement was a mistake, and despite the layoffs the damage done is long lasting. I studied computers back when you needed severe Asperger's to understand them, while the neurotypical normies have taken over.
+--- 93147475
+>>93146675 (OP)
+Serenity?
+--- 93147542
+>>93146742
+I haven't encountered a hard requirement yet, but I had at least one package install fail because it saw I had a .cargo/ directory and rust was installed so it tried to build with it. (It was an old version I hadn't used in 2 years so the build failed. Solved by removing Rust)
+--- 93147560
+>>93146994
+Banks run Java these days
+--- 93147696
+>>93146994
+>Are you just cargo culting boomerism without aiming for anything coherent?
+--- 93147721
+>>93147475
+>no ISO
+--- 93148394
+>>93147306
+COBOL isn't known for its leanness and Linux is huge. Software expands to fill the hardware, same as it's ever been. People were already complaining about it whenever it was that you started learning, you can't blame some movement.
+--- 93148787
+>>93146675 (OP)
+>caring about the language used to build software instead of the quality of the software itself
+classic /g/tard move anon
+--- 93148834
+>>93146675 (OP)
+better idea: we should cry on the internet on how new things to learn continue being created after we lost all brain plasticity
+--- 93149668
+>>93146675 (OP)
+come home white man
+--- 93151011
+It's sad that despite all the hardcore Wndows 7 users on here the equivalent of it for Linux is being ignored or even having hostile reactions to it. There was an initial pushback with systemd but the rest of nu-Linux is here to stay.
+--- 93152026
+>>93148394
+COBOL is leaner than modern languages because it's older than modern languages, this should be obvious
+--- 93152083
+>>93146675 (OP)
+>No EFI support
+So it's going to be totally worthless.
+--- 93152129
+>>93146764
+It's almost like OP doesn't actually have opinions for himself and just goes with whoever moans the loudest, which tends to be new technology. Everyone knows the old techs faults, but given new faults, people complain. So you get dumbfucks like OP who think everything new is bad because new.
+--- 93152146
+>>93152129
+>So you get dumbfucks like OP who think everything new is bad because new.
+That's just this entire website
+--- 93154214
+>>93146675 (OP)
+>Supports i486 and up without sse2
+I fucking hate retards like you. Any os code written in this day and age, unless it targets embedded, should only support 64 bit AVX2 ISAs. You're the same retards that complain about muh bloat when most of the bloat is supporting hardware literally nobody has used in a decade
+--- 93154253
+>>93146675 (OP)
+Install kolibroOS
+--- 93154291
+>>93146675 (OP)
+>No Rust/Go/Dart/Nodejs
+>No systemd (and no elogind either)
+>No Pulseaudio/Pipewire, OSS only
+>No Wayland
+>No EFI support, Bios and Core/Libreboot only
+>No Flatpak/Snap/Appimage, build from source or tar.gz packages only
+>Supports i486 and up without sse2.
+Guix fulfills almost all points.
+--- 93154320
+>>93146725
+>cryptography
+Isn't Rust fairly justified here? Security is where muh memory safety actually matters.
+--- 93154332
+>>93146675 (OP)
+>I DO NO ACTUAL CODING BUT I REALLY NEED TO FIT IN HERE 
+eat shit
+--- 93154381
+>>93154214
+The hardware itself is bloated, CPUs would run faster with smaller instruction sets as long as they're made on the same process node, just look at Apple
+--- 93154448
+>>93146675 (OP)
+slackware
+--- 93154459
+I don't get why you guys obsess over distros so much. I've been running ubuntu/debian for like a decade and at this point it's just a WSL2 program because I still like to gayme. It doesn't fucking matter, 99% of terminal interaction is distro agnostic. Desktop Environments are cross-distro too. Is it really that big of a fucking deal to have "Muh bloat free distro"? You can get Alpine Linux on 130mb. Seriously, what the fuck are you guys doing that makes this such a big deal? This is what my normal linux interaction looks like.
+
+>cd ~/projects/cool-app/src
+>ls
+>vim foo.clj
+>*clack noises for 20 minutes"
+>:wq
+>lein run
+>CTRL-C
+>git add *
+>git commit -m "Init"
+>git push
+
+
+It's not CAR T-Cell Therapy, it's a fucking unix box.
+--- 93154633
+>>93154381
+That's why they have neon, right, cretin?
+--- 93154997
+>>93154459
+This is exactly why I use Pop!_os. I just wanted a distro I didn't have to think about. Anything I need to do that isn't part of the distro I just do myself.
+--- 93155291
+>>93146675 (OP)
+Yes it's called OpenBSD.
+--- 93155817
+>>93146675 (OP)
+At this point it's time to write a new OS using 'traditional' (and by that I mean PL/I, pascal, oberon, lisp, forth, or anything-but-algolcancerlangs, not newfangled bullshit like C, can't spell crap without C!) technologies. Although vector instructions for CPUs are based and shouldn't be avoided.
+On the other hand I would love to have a highly configurable open hardware platform for a good price and just 'restart from scratch'.
+Everything is so thoroughly corrupted nowadays.
+But maybe all we really need is to follow wirth's suggestion to rewrite the entire tech stack every 10 years to compress the things we learned in that time and remove the mistakes that were made along the way.
+--- 93155842
+>>93154320
+Not at all, you typically don't do any memory ops in cryptography code and operate purely on fixed-size static regions.
+--- 93155877
+>>93154253
+based
+--- 93155909
+>>93155817
+How is Pascal not an "algolcancerlang"? Or am I misparsing your sentence?
+--- 93155992
+>>93155909
+Pascal descends from pre-68 algol due to increasing disagreement of where it was going. It's like a purified algol. Algol 60 itself was not inherently bad either. I should have been more specific.
+--- 93157038
+>>93155842
+nonsense, crypto libraries do things like asn.1 parsing, where memory safety absolutely matters
+--- 93157064
+>>93157038
+This particular crypto library does that and so Rust is a good choice
+Not all crypto libraries do that stuff I don't think
+--- 93157114
+>>93154291
+the face of the freetard when they startup their machine and it says (c) 1983 American Megatrends Inc.
+--- 93157228
+>>93157038
+t. no idea what crypto is or does. Also no idea what asn.1 is or does.
+--- 93157233
+>>93155842
+That's retarded. Rust trannies bringing up muh heartbleed is tiring, but it is entirely true that Rust makes these kinds of bugs impossible without conscious misuse.
+--- 93157258
+>>93157233
+Non-sequitur. Dial 8.

g/93147669.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,264 @@
+-----
+--- 93147669
+Competitive Gamer Rat Edition
+
+/gedg/ Wiki: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Gedg
+
+IRC: irc.rizon.net #/g/gedg
+
+Progress Day: https://itch.io/jam/gedg-progress-day-1
+
+/gedg/ Compendium: https://rentry.org/gedg
+
+/agdg/: >>>/vg/agdg
+
+previous : https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/93073292
+
+Sometimes we hit bump, sometimes we fizzle out. That's the /gedg/ way.
+--- 93148058
+>>93144118 →
+>>93143238 →
+https://github.com/notfatcat54852/bulletphysicsattempt5
+--- 93148289
+I tried implementing a basic LOD system. I found it didn't make much of a performance difference. Seems it's more useful if you have a smaller number of objects with a huge load of vertices, but not so much if you have a large number of objects that don't have an insane amount of vertices to begin with and can only have a portion of their vertices removed.
+--- 93148386
+Decided I should have two lua states. One for files and one that reads from stdin with polling so the program isn't blocked. Right now I have the latter.
+static char lua_stdin_buffer[256];
+static i32 lua_err;
+static struct pollfd lua_pollfd;
+
+...
+
+static inline lua_State* lua_embedded_init()
+{
+    lua_State* l = luaL_newstate();
+    luaL_openlibs(l);
+
+    return l;
+}
+
+static inline void lua_embedded_poll_init()
+{
+    memset(&lua_pollfd, 0, sizeof(lua_pollfd));
+    lua_pollfd.fd = 0;
+    lua_pollfd.events = POLLIN;
+}
+
+static inline void lua_embedded_poll_input(lua_State* l)
+{
+    if(poll(&lua_pollfd, 1, 0))
+    {
+        read(0, lua_stdin_buffer, sizeof(lua_stdin_buffer));
+        lua_err = luaL_loadbuffer(l, lua_stdin_buffer, strlen(lua_stdin_buffer), "line")
+            || lua_pcall(l, 0, 0, 0);
+        
+        if (lua_err)
+        {
+            LOG_ERROR("[LUA]: %s", lua_tostring(l, -1));
+            lua_pop(l, 1); // pop error msg from the stack
+        }
+    }    
+}
+
+
+--- 93148691
+>>93148252
+in c++ this is just an operator override
+--- 93148855
+>>93148289
+LOD only becomes useful when you have really big, open scenes with lots of geometry, like forests
+--- 93148974
+>>93148691
+how do i do that?
+--- 93150148
+got a spinning quad in vulkan now
+--- 93150827
+FUUUUUU
+Freepascal is failing me. I thought I was being clever writing my matrix multiplication in SSE, but if I want to use aligned SSE loads with movaps I have to make sure my matrices are 16 byte aligned. otherwise the movaps just crashes randomly if a matrix in a local variable happens to be not aligned. (x86 could do unaligned loads with movups in principle, but arm is really bad at unaligned loads).
+But I apparently can't tell freepascal that a variable of a specific type always needs to be 16 byte aligned. I can do $codealign localmin=16, but that's all-or-nothing and aligns all other local variables to 16 bytes too.
+--- 93152427
+>>93148386
+>pollfd
+nice. didn't know these existed.
+--- 93152539
+>>93148386
+I should mention: the stdin input state is going to be for debug builds since it will give you control over the engine.
+>>93152427
+Just learned about it today. I never tried nonblocking input before.
+--- 93153134
+>>93150827
+ok, so if freepascal doesn't let me align variables, i could do it myself with some disgusting pointer code.
+type
+  // actual matrix type
+  TMat4 = array[0..3,0..3] of Single;
+  Pmat4 = ^TMat4;
+  // array of bytes big enough for a matrix + any alignment (80 bytes total)
+  TMat4Bytes = array[0..sizeof(TMat4) + 15] of Byte;
+
+function mat4ptr(var m): PMat4;
+begin
+  mat4ptr := PMat4(Uintptr(@m) + align - 1 - (Uintptr(@m) + align - 1) mod align);
+end;
+
+// and then in the usage code
+procedure foo;
+var RawM1,RawM2: TMat4Bytes;
+  m1,m2: PMat4;
+begin
+  m1 := mat4ptr(rawm1);
+  m2 := mat4ptr(rawm2);
+//...
+end;
+
+but then if i have a record that contains a matrix, i'd have to do a similar hack for that too.
+maybe i should've just used C.
+--- 93153248
+>>93153134
+Well, going full Pascal is nice to be honest. I use Ada for assemblers and compilers, but I would never choose Ada to make a game. (:
+--- 93153513
+Ignore...
+--- 93153659
+Again...
+--- 93153720
+Please...
+--- 93154109
+>>93148386
+Added null terminator (read doesn't add one). This was causing me problems whenever lua threw an error.
+void lua_embedded_poll_input(lua_State* l)
+{
+    if (poll(&lua_pollfd, 1, 0))
+    {
+        size_t n = read(0, lua_stdin_buffer, sizeof(lua_stdin_buffer) - 1);
+        lua_stdin_buffer[n] = '\0';
+        lua_err = luaL_loadbuffer(l, lua_stdin_buffer, strlen(lua_stdin_buffer), "line")
+            || lua_pcall(l, 0, 0, 0);
+
+        if (lua_err)
+        {
+            LOG_ERROR("[LUA]: %s", lua_tostring(l, -1));
+            lua_pop(l, 1); // pop error msg from the stack
+        }
+    }
+}
+
+--- 93154656
+>>93154109
+Progress update. It's slow going but I've been exposing c code to the interpreter in an organized fashion with metatables.
+
+The vec types you see in pic related are c structures under the hood. What's being rendered is an unrelated test. But the idea is to use the interpreter to render what is shown eventually.
+--- 93154723
+>>93148058
+I wasn't able to make your solution work with the way you put the source files in it. Unless you have a specific reason to include the Bullet source in your project you should build and link to it. Here is how you do that:
+
+In this example i will use D:\Bullet as the source location; replace it accordingly. Extract the bullet source in D:\Bullet and then open the Developer Command Prompt for VS and
+cd D:\Bullet
+mkdir build
+cd build
+cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=D:\Bullet\bullet-win64 -DINSTALL_LIBS:BOOL=ON ..
+cmake --build . --config=Release
+cmake --install . --config=Release
+
+After it finishes, you will have the libraries and header files needed for using Bullet in "D:\Bullet\bullet-win64". You can move this wherever you want.
+In Visual Studio, right-click your project > Properties. Go to VC++ Directories and add "D:\Bullet\bullet-win64\include\bullet" to "Include Directories" and "D:\Bullet\bullet-win64\lib" to "Library Directories".
+Then go to Linker and add the Bullet libraries you need to "Additional Dependencies". I think that at the very least you'll need Bullet3Collision.lib; Bullet3Common.lib; LinearMath.lib.
+
+This requires that you have the "C++ CMake tools for Windows" Visual Studio component installed. Afair it is by default.
+--- 93154737
+>>93154656
+nice. how does that actually work on the C side when you call a:scale in lua. Do you just look for a function pointer by name?
+--- 93154856
+None...
+--- 93154964
+Null...
+--- 93155001
+>>93154737
+Yeah, the Lua C API works with function pointers. Here is example code used for a vec2 scale.
+static i32 lua_embedded_vec2_scale(lua_State* l)
+{
+    vec2* v = (vec2*)lua_touserdata(l, 1);
+    f32 f = luaL_checknumber(l, 2);
+
+    luaL_argcheck(l, v != NULL, 1, "'vec2' expected");
+
+    vec2* result = (vec2*)lua_newuserdata(l, sizeof(vec2));
+    *result = vec2_scale(v, f);
+
+    luaL_getmetatable(l, "meta.vec2");
+     lua_setmetatable(l, -2);
+    
+    return 1;
+}
+
+...
+
+static const luaL_Reg vec2_libf[] =
+{
+    {"new", lua_embedded_vec2_new},
+    {NULL, NULL}
+};
+
+static const luaL_Reg vec2_libm[] =
+{
+    {"x", lua_embedded_vec2_x},
+    {"y", lua_embedded_vec2_y},
+    {"scale", lua_embedded_vec2_scale},
+    {"print", lua_embedded_vec2_print},
+    {NULL, NULL}
+};
+
+...
+
+static i32 luaopen_vec2lib(lua_State* l)
+{
+    luaL_newmetatable(l, "meta.vec2");
+    lua_pushvalue(l, -1);
+    lua_setfield(l, -2, "__index");
+    luaL_setfuncs(l, vec2_libm, 0);    
+    luaL_newlib(l, vec2_libf);
+    return 1;
+}
+
+...
+
+void lua_embedded_vec_init(lua_State* l)
+{
+    luaL_requiref(l, "vec2", luaopen_vec2lib, 1);
+    luaL_requiref(l, "vec3", luaopen_vec3lib, 1);
+    luaL_requiref(l, "vec4", luaopen_vec4lib, 1);
+}
+
+
+I have a meta table so I don't have to do stuff like vec3.scale(a, 3).
+--- 93155205
+don't want to bring another dependency just for gamepad handling so I'll just call into xinput directly
+--- 93155472
+>>93155205
+if this is all the code you need, then I doubt you'd gain anything from using a library anyway, except from being crossplatform.
+--- 93155520
+>>93155205
+> Pust / Carbon
+C / Cyrr
+--- 93155585
+I just added Batty Vamps
+https://frenchfriesguy.itch.io/batty-vamps-3d
+ to the compendium. Remember to ask if you want a game added if you posted it here. If it was something you submitted for the /agdg/ demoday mention that too (so I can organize things better).
+--- 93155752
+>>93155472
+it's missing state tracking for controller connect/disconnect and deadzones
+should be straightforward to add tho
+--- 93156511
+>>93153134
+>>93153248
+yea i get the feeling I may be pushing what pascal was designed for.
+I now decided to write an allocator that allocates and aligns memory in an arena. Only downside is that I have to allocate all matrices on the heap, because I can't guarantee alignment for variables on the stack. But now I can just write code like this
+var p PMat4;
+mark: TArenaMark;
+begin
+  tmpallocbegin(mark);
+  // allocate 3 matrices, aligned to 16 bytes
+  p := tmpalloc(3, sizeof(p^), 16);
+  // ... fill matrix data ...
+  mul(p[0], p[1], p[2]);
+  tmpallocreset(mark);
+end.
+

g/93147754.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,97 @@
+-----
+--- 93147754
+Why's this such a trainwreck when their integrated GPUs work just fine?
+--- 93147952
+>>93147754 (OP)
+Its not you retarded nigger.
+It comes with a 16gb version and after less than a year of software updates it performs as well as a 6700xt in some cases at 1440p which is amazing since its MSRP is so much lower
+--- 93147972
+>>93147754 (OP)
+Kys nigger
+--- 93147979
+>>93147952
+>in some cases
+lmao
+>much lower price
+so like, $100?
+--- 93147995
+Does it support CUDA? No? I don't care then. At least AMD has HIP. Broken, as all AMD software is, but at least they are trying.
+--- 93148204
+>>93147952
+>after less than a year of software updates
+kek
+if your shitty product isn't performing well on day 1 then you got scammed
+--- 93148524
+>>93147754 (OP)
+>when their integrated GPUs work just fine?
+They do? I always had trouble with old games.
+--- 93148583
+>>93147754 (OP)
+it's upside down for one
+--- 93148609
+>>93147754 (OP)
+Intel's iGPUs have always had godawful driver support for gayming. They're fine if all you care about is browsing Faceberg and playing Candy Crush, but that's about it. With Arc, Intel have made it clear they only care about fixing the latest AAA slop. They statedly don't give a shit about anything beyond that.
+>Thank you for reporting this issue. Our priority is to target the most popular games and apps to focus our efforts on providing a high quality, stable experience for the broadest set of users. We will continue to improve our software performance and compatibility throughout 2023 and beyond. While we can’t accommodate your request at this time, please watch this article on our website for any possible changes to this situation.
+https://github.com/IGCIT/Intel-GPU-Community-Issue-Tracker-IGCIT/issues/159
+As such, there's zero reason to buy one of their cards. AMD cards are far better as an all-round package and handle AAA slop just fine. It's the more niche cases where Nvidia shines, and Intel have made it clear that's of no interest to them. So they're just a worse AMD.
+--- 93148667
+>>93148524
+you are full of shit
+are you telling me an ARC is better while they barely support directx 7/8/9/10 ?
+--- 93148977
+>>93147754 (OP)
+First generation anything tends to suck ass. They are improving their driver game at rate that should make Lisa Su suck-start a shotgun. Even GPGPU is better on Arc than on AMD.
+--- 93149004
+>>93147995
+>Does it support CUDA? No? I don't care then.
+
+Is that really Intel's fault?
+--- 93149019
+>>93147995
+AMD is trying? News to me.
+--- 93149078
+>>93147754 (OP)
+Indie company, it happens sometimes
+--- 93149695
+>>93148609
+DXVK works fine on real operating systems :)
+--- 93149715
+>>93147979
+correct. some cases. making driver optimizations for every game in existence takes time. Nvidia and AMD have 5-10 years of an advantage
+--- 93150377
+Their iGPUs work fine on laptops and for very, VERY lightweight games. The desktop space has a ton more variables like multi monitor setups and years of games that they missed out on. 
+Its also a first gen product and you always have to be aware of those flaws when they come out. But the fact that it isn't abysmal either and keeps improving gives hope.
+--- 93150529
+>>93147979
+>so like, $100?
+
+The same $100 used by AMD to argue they are better value than nvidia gpus. Or intel vs amd in cpus.
+--- 93152219
+>>93150529
+And it isn't even working out for them.
+--- 93152345
+>>93147754 (OP)
+It isnt, and im kinda wondering where this sentiment comes from.
+It was a rough launch but the Arc cards are pretty good now, driver updates fixed the major issues a while ago and then theres just been progressive improvement since then.
+
+Why wouldnt you want these products to succeed as computer nerds? The duopoly in effect has destroyed the GPU market in terms of consumer trust and the value of the products. A third player entered the market to stir shit up and people have just been slandering the third player as much as possible.
+
+t. arc shill
+--- 93155016
+>>93152345
+AMD fanboys will unironically talk about their "fine wine" amd drivers that take years to get polished while crying about intel having teething issues on their first generation discrete gpus.
+--- 93155273
+>>93147995
+It supports DirectML. Will someone tell me why they need more?
+--- 93155388
+Intel did GPUs before and they were shit drivers (Intel i740). Their IGP have always had shit drivers. Installing even Retroarch on my laptop gave a horribly garbled display until I switched the renderer from default to DX9 or whatever the fuck, latest driver.
+--- 93155563
+Bought this little nigga last week for a secondary PC. The Arc issues at this point are greatly exaggerated. It's not a bad card for the price. For a first generation card I'm really impressed. Battlemage is gonna tear AMD a new asshole.
+--- 93155690
+>>93155273
+Because it is a Windows only library for DirectX 12?
+--- 93155834
+>>93147754 (OP)
+Intel has basically no expertise in the dedicated GPU market. Of course their first iteration isn't gonna be perfect. What they have managed to pull off is rather impressive.
+--- 93156288
+Considering that this was their second attempt to spearhead into the market in almost two decades I'd argue its actually pretty decent and pricing is fair. Only time will tell.

g/93147942.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,321 @@
+-----
+--- 93147942
+>1080p IPS display
+>CPU that is as fast as i5-6500 but at 12W
+>LPDDR5 at 4800MHz
+>camera privacy shutter
+>unlocked BIOS
+>$250 USD
+this KILLS the used chinkpad
+--- 93148050
+>>93147942 (OP)
+you forgot
+>chinese spyware
+--- 93148070
+>>93148052
+Bump. I hate my mother.
+--- 93148093
+>>93148052
+I actually want my abusive mom to die so I'll bump
+--- 93148102
+>>93148052
+Nah, I do it for free.
+
+>>93148050
+That machine comes with a completely stock unlocked BIOS. Cannot say the same about chinkpads. There have been cases of UEFI-level spyware in chinkpads, but not in Chuwi laptops. Just install Linux if you think they put spyware in their Windows install.
+--- 93148112
+>>93147942 (OP)
+Bet that "SSD" is some eMMC horror that a laptop drive from 2009 can outrun.
+
+>>93148052
+My mother has been dead for 14 years, so you've kinda missed the boat.
+--- 93148123
+>>93147942 (OP)
+>"unlocked"
+what the fuck does that mean?
+what the hell is a "locked bios"?
+>>93148102
+if the bios is proprietary you will replace it anyway
+and if you can't entirely replace it with a 100% free firmware (e.g. libreboot), its defective hardware and literally just scam.
+>durr hurr install lunix
+linux-libre wont run
+the vanilla linux kernel is backdoored.
+--- 93148170
+>>93148161
+finest chinesium™
+--- 93148180
+>>93147942 (OP)
+>no coreboot
+>proprietary wifi drivers
+>b-but muh camera shutter
+fuck off chang, i'm not buying your spyware
+--- 93148191
+>>93148180
+>no coreboot, let alone libreboot
+into the garbage it goes
+--- 93148212
+>>93147942 (OP)
+Yup, thinkpads had their time in the sun now it's time to move over
+--- 93148235
+>>93147942 (OP)
+why is it so hard to filter for the cpu? It looks like it could replace a rpi but its nigh impossible to find it.
+--- 93148266
+>>93148161
+That's an error in the description, you can find reviews of this laptop with CPU-Z screenshots where it says it's LPDDR5. Chuwi's descriptions are still a lot better than descriptions of many other Chinese manufacturers.
+--- 93148300
+How many hours of battery? It's not listed and it would be the point that would make me ditch my T420 in favor of this.
+--- 93148302
+>>93147942 (OP)
+chink hardware, you pay with your data
+--- 93148322
+>>93148302
+>implying amerimutt IME and proprietary bios backdoors are any better than chink backdoors
+--- 93148328
+>>93148180
+>>proprietary wifi drivers
+Which one?
+--- 93148350
+>>93148328
+try running linux-libre on it and see yourself
+--- 93148354
+>>93148266
+Fact is, that CPU is also compatible with DDR4 which is why I have even more questions.
+--- 93148360
+>>93147942 (OP)
+clearly photoshopped misleading image
+the screen almost looks like 16:10, but advertised as 16:9
+fuck off shill
+--- 93148363
+>>93148123
+>what the hell is a "locked bios"?
+BIOS that doesn't let you change the TDP and other settings that the manufacturer has the access to. Most laptops come with locked BIOSes.
+
+>>93148300
+Probably 4-5 hours. The battery is quite small at 38Wh, but the CPU is quite frugal.
+--- 93148403
+>>93148350
+Linux Libre doesn't touch the WiFi drivers, it only removes the WiFi firmware that those drivers need to upload onto the WiFi chip for it to function properly.
+
+>>93148360
+>the screen almost looks like 16:10, but advertised as 16:9
+It's 16:9 just like it says. And it's not like chinkpads aren't guilty of this as well.
+--- 93148416
+very nice can't argue for the price but a lot of the features are run of the mill stuff
+--- 93148443
+>>93148363
+>doesnt let you change X or Y
+>most laptops 
+since when, i never had this issue because i dont use nonfree software
+>>93148403
+the firmware is literally 90% of the driver kek
+--- 93148467
+>>93148443
+The driver is the code that runs on the CPU. The firmware is something completely different, the driver only uploads it.
+--- 93148484
+>>93148403
+>It's 16:9 just like it says
+then use an image that shows it honestly
+why do these fucking chinks insist on false advertisement?
+--- 93148525
+>>93148123
+BIOSes like yours that, among many things, have WLAN/WWAN card whitelists.
+--- 93148860
+>>93148467
+the 'driver' might be free but all it does is upload the firmware (the actual driver that does 90% of the work) to the card where it can do whatever it wants
+the 'driver' running on your system doesnt do much really, it would be less harm if that was proprietary but the firmware was free.
+>>93148525
+i never had to deal with nonsense like this because i remove any proprietary garbage anyway
+>>93148484
+bing chiling
+--- 93150156
+>>93148860
+>the 'driver' might be free but all it does is upload the firmware
+factually incorrect. how do you think your system communicates with the wifi chip? the communication goes through the driver first.
+--- 93150178
+boys, if ur laptop ain't got mouse buttons to click, that ain't a laptop. that's a macbook.
+--- 93150264
+>>93148860
+The firmware is basically the operating system that the WiFi device itself runs. The driver runs on your CPU and interfaces with the device. Both are necessary for the function of the device.
+--- 93150309
+>>93147942 (OP)
+>intel N
+--- 93150587
+>>93150178
+i dont have a trackpad either, just a trackpoint
+>>93150264
+ah sweet, another separate proprietary OS that can control my networking!
+--- 93150621
+>>93148860
+>i remove any proprietary garbage anyway
+No, you took a bunch of placebos, like some wintard who thinks his memescript does anything.
+--- 93150624
+>>93150309
+wasnt N supposed to come before I?
+--- 93150658
+>>93150621
+scripts work, it's been proven
+--- 93150845
+>>93147942 (OP)
+>no coreboot
+>no trackpoint
+--- 93150908
+>>93147942 (OP)
+>$250 for a cuck core netbook
+--- 93150944
+>>93148070
+>>93148093
+:/
+--- 93151254
+>>93150908
+I call them "loli cores" and "hag cores".
+--- 93151326
+>Laptop with 8GB DDR5 250€
+>Laptop with 16GB DDR5 950€
+>Laptop with 32GB DDR5 2250€+
+why?
+--- 93152073
+>>93151326
+some people just pay for the highest end version of anything, others are more price-conscientious. this lets you target both groups with the exact same product.
+--- 93152091
+>>93150621
+i compiled my firmware from scratch, are you calling that a placebo?
+--- 93152109
+Shit build quality
+Defective panels
+Low quality battery and battery life
+--- 93152160
+>>93152073
+in what world is 16gb or 32gb the upper high end?
+--- 93152230
+>>93152160
+He's probably talking about the average customer's needs. Not the ultraovermega death kill machine with a petillions ram for gaymers
+--- 93152298
+>>93152230
+you need 32gb for standard working. one VM, email program, some shit like teams or zoom and you're in 17GB territory already
+--- 93152314
+Omg free spyware too take that you magnesium roll cage military standard faggots
+--- 93152336
+>>93152298
+4 are fine
+if you have 20 browser tabs and a vm open while shitposting and doing other stuff, maybe 6/8
+--- 93152374
+>>93152298
+In the world of laptops they charge a premium for anything above 4gb, because microsoft doesn't care about putting windows on machines that can't run it.
+--- 93152449
+>1 usb port
+--- 93152459
+>>93152298
+holy shit annon take your meds and wake up to reality you only need 8-16gb
+--- 93152498
+Link?
+--- 93152529
+>>93152459
+sry, I am actually working, not simulating work in a dead-end pajeet job
+--- 93152568
+>>93152449
+--- 93152570
+>>93147942 (OP)
+This shit is great on paper, but they are built like crap and fall apart.
+--- 93152588
+>>93147942 (OP)
+what is that gay ass processor?
+--- 93152640
+I unironically might just buy it since you niggers can't recommend anything better for that price
+--- 93152697
+>>93147942 (OP)
+>full size keyboard
+>no numpad
+??????
+--- 93152813
+>>93147942 (OP)
+>>1080p IPS display
+not upgradeable 
+>>CPU that is as fast as i5-6500 but at 12W
+not upgradeable 
+>>LPDDR5 at 4800MHz
+not upgradeable 
+>>camera privacy shutter
+fake chinese trick
+>>unlocked BIOS
+fake chinese trick
+>>$250 USD
+glorified chromebook
+--- 93152820
+>>93147942 (OP)
+Chuwi laptops have chink touchpad that doesn't works on Linux/GNU systems
+Same for speakers
+--- 93153642
+https://www.ebay.com/itm/295592100073
+>$20 more
+>3x Passmark score
+ThinkChads stay winning
+--- 93153701
+>>93147942 (OP)
+>no trackpoint
+into the trash it goes
+--- 93154435
+>>93152298
+I recently upgraded my laptop to 32GB and I never saw it exceed 16GB usage anyway. Pointless upgrade
+--- 93154924
+> 3hours battery
+
+lol
+--- 93154999
+>>93152820
+>Chuwi laptops have chink touchpad that doesn't works on Linux/GNU systems
+Linux is for faggots. Who cares.
+>>93153701
+Unnecessary bloat
+>>93154924
+You don't need a battery longer than three hours
+--- 93155074
+>>93154999
+>Unnecessary bloat
+no, trackpad is bloat
+the x200 is peak laptop design
+--- 93155265
+>>93147942 (OP)
+>UHD
+go with vega 8 if possible, that shit is almost a discrete gpu
+--- 93155292
+>>93147942 (OP)
+Is it an actual privacy shutter? Be careful, some so-called "privacy shutters" still let light filter through when closed.
+--- 93155325
+>>93155292
+And even that alone is enough for anyone spying on you to know whether it's night/daytime or whether or not your lights are switched on.
+--- 93155368
+>>93148300
+>The advantages of market price, especially the battery life, can be played by 10h, and the standby time exceeds 13h; Generally speaking, Chuwi GemiBook XPro can well meet the daily office scenes and meeting needs in use
+--- 93155401
+>CPU that is as fast as i5-6500 but at 12W
+how do you guys figure out stuff like how powerful a modern mobile CPU is to a desktop CPU from years ago? just by benchmarks where the CPUs score similarly?
+--- 93155407
+>>93148443
+>because i dont do anything for a living involving a computer, I just neetpost on /g/
+--- 93155435
+>>93148525
+be fair, while many brands whitelist wifi cards/models, many other brands do not bother
+--- 93155482
+>>93152529
+>sry, I am actually working
+So am I, what job of yours requires a huge-ass VM
+--- 93155507
+>>93152640
+>you niggers
+>$250 laptop
+stop being poor
+--- 93155602
+>>93155507
+Dilate
+--- 93155632
+>>93147942 (OP)
+looks way too good to be true
+--- 93155637
+>>93155482
+He fell for the docker meme.
+--- 93155652
+>changoid laptop
+Have fun being locked to the OEM install of Windows full of more bloatware than you can even imagine.
+--- 93155717
+>>93155652
+Cope, Chuwi doesn't install any bloatware on their devices. They are too small for other companies to care and enter partnerships with them, same with GPD.

g/93148498.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,440 @@
+-----
+--- 93148527
+This thing supposedly passed a bar exam.
+--- 93148570
+cool story bro
+--- 93148574
+It struggles will the kindergarten level logical questions. Also if you add “Don’t explain, just answer with a number”, AI will give the wrong answer 10/10 times.
+--- 93148618
+>>93148498 (OP)
+What's the answer? 80 minutes?
+--- 93148638
+>>93148527
+>>93148498 (OP)
+It's a fucking glorified language model. It can write as well as humans but sucks at math and factual informations. It doesn't understand how many a math formula work, it only knows how to write like a pro.
+And you niggas thought that OpenAI's piss-shit AI will take over the world.
+HoloX will probably take over the world before this piss-shit AI does.
+Seriously stop thinking that OpenAI's shit-infested deformed child can become Skynet. You dirtbag.
+--- 93148672
+>>93148638
+yeah but if it knew the things it didn't then it would be a genius
+that's gamechanging
+--- 93148682
+>>93148672
+Like what
+--- 93148685
+>>93148618
+t. AI
+--- 93148699
+You're using GPT 3.5. GPT4 is much smarter (but still makes mistakes). Also all the models are bad at math. Though it has the capability to connect to Wolfram Alpha, which isn't available yet.
+--- 93148738
+>>93148498 (OP)
+Isn't it funny a human is mocking at something artificial is dumber that him? It's like monkeys think they are smart but they are controlled and caged.
+--- 93148740
+>>93148498 (OP)
+NIGGER
+gpt 3.5 btw
+--- 93148769
+>>93148738
+how do you know what monkeys think
+--- 93148836
+>>93148740
+>>93148618
+Lol
+--- 93148844
+>>93148618
+The answer is still 40 minutes, the length of the symphony is independent of the size of the orchestra.
+--- 93148898
+I realized this shit when this nigger bot gave me some made up anime themes for hugo and some made up geometry books from greek times.
+--- 93148924
+Guess GPT 4 gets it.
+--- 93148960
+>>93148740
+buddy, if a man runs a marathon in 4hrs, how long will it take 10 men to run it?
+--- 93149032
+>>93148498 (OP)
+It's a fucking statistical forecast model for linguistic text. If you are unironically using it as a calculator you are a fucking idiot.
+--- 93149049
+>>93148924
+that's spark of AGI baybee
+--- 93149051
+>>93149032
+>It's a fucking statistical forecast model for linguistic text. If you are unironically using it you are a fucking idiot.
+ftfy
+--- 93149057
+You can just integrate it with a math model or wolfram alpha...
+--- 93149105
+>>93148960
+24 mins
+--- 93149151
+>>93148498 (OP)
+it can't even list prices from cheap to expensive
+--- 93149185
+>>93149032
+>>93149057
+It’s not a math problem, the symphony will take the same time to play no matter what. AI struggles with logical problems.
+--- 93149195
+>>93148960
+>>93149105
+A relay would take 24 minutes per man or 4 man hours
+--- 93149199
+>>93149105
+KEK
+--- 93149212
+>>93149185
+logic is math man
+--- 93149215
+>>93149105
+And just to confirm, what’s heavier kilo of feathers or kilo of steel?
+--- 93149219
+>retards struggle with the how many people do we need for a pregnancy management pleb problem
+--- 93149223
+>>93149185
+Now we just need a model to predict this level of mental retardation so that people like you can be aborted early on.
+--- 93149256
+>>93149215
+everyone knows steel is heavier than feathers. it's settled science.
+--- 93149295
+>>93149215
+Trick question 
+What type of feathers are we talking about and what type of steel are we talking about
+--- 93149311
+>>93149215
+1 kg of steel obviously
+--- 93149472
+>>93148960
+--- 93149493
+>>93148498 (OP)
+no that is the thing that can replicate human text and nothing else. What you did there isnt really its intended use
+--- 93149526
+>>93148960
+...as for me. It's Bard.
+--- 93149532
+It's completely bluepilled when it comes to questions about sexuality and refuses to answer when the answer could "trigger some people" (his own words)
+--- 93149542
+>>93149532
+try you.com chatbot when dealing with sexual questions
+--- 93149578
+If an Oven is heated to 250°C and it takes 15 minutes to make a Pizza, what should be the oven temperature to make the Pizza in 1 minute?
+--- 93149582
+>>93148498 (OP)
+...as for me, it's Bard.
+--- 93149597
+>>93149578
+7 trillion but seriously chat gpt 4 answer 
+I’m sorry, but it doesn’t work that way. The temperature and cooking time for a pizza are not directly proportional. Increasing the temperature of the oven will not necessarily decrease the cooking time in a linear fashion. In fact, increasing the temperature too much could result in a burnt pizza. It’s important to follow the recommended cooking instructions for the best results. Is there anything else I can help you with?
+--- 93149670
+>>93149578
+1/2
+--- 93149690
+>>93149670
+2/2
+--- 93149709
+>>93149578
+3750° C acc to gpt
+--- 93149843
+>>93149690
+25 degrees lol
+--- 93149908
+>>93149690
+>25 degrees
+--- 93150018
+>>93148498 (OP)
+I have yet to meet a person who thinks current LLMs pose an existential threat to humanity. The concern is, that if we keep making them bigger and better, mixing them with other models, expert systems and robotics, things could easily get out of hand. Everybody thinks of Skynet, but there are much less fancy scenarios, where a handful of bad actors could cause serious problems using even just narrow AI.
+--- 93150046
+>>93149670
+--- 93150051
+>>93148498 (OP)
+I tried it on gpt 4
+--- 93150094
+>>93148527
+>then the orchestra of 60 musicians will take 80 minutes to perform the same symphony 
+
+PAHAHAHAHA
+--- 93150123
+>>93150018
+They don't even need AI, all they need is guns
+--- 93150157
+>>93149212
+So is programming
+--- 93150163
+>>93150051
+Emergent behavior is scary
+--- 93150166
+>>93150046
+Kek, to be fair there are probably midwit humans who would give the same answer
+--- 93150191
+>>93148498 (OP)
+literally the only people saying AI would ever take over the world are AI hype men and scifi daydreamers
+--- 93150222
+>>93150191
+we are in its early days. Rome wasn't built in one day
+--- 93150373
+>>93150123
+--- 93150453
+>>93150222
+not him but obviously it's going nowhere, it was not designed to be intelligent, it was designed to give the illusion of intelligence.
+its a talking search engine with data obfuscating task modules
+--- 93150510
+>>93148498 (OP)
+It's your fault for not knowing how to properly use chatgpt.
+
+I all comes down to skill issues.
+--- 93150523
+>>93148498 (OP)
+>asking a language model math questions
+based retard
+--- 93150579
+>>93150191
+yeah you gotta understand the more they hype it the more money they make just like any other product, its no different 
+but practically all of msm was hyping it up so I dont think people were wrong. Because if it was intelligent, like there is always a chance these overpaid codemonkeys one day crack the code to fuck us all over forever because who knows how far or close we are actually to a breakthrough (it actually pisses me off no one is giving factual information here) then we would've been right. And also like the groups of people who control msm also directly communicate their thoughts through it, like they are totally salivating at the opportunity, which is another reason for the hype.
+--- 93150618
+>>93148844
+A larger orchestra is likely to be fancy and play at a higher tempo.
+--- 93150668
+>>93150373
+Wait until you say "capitalism kills people" and it's like "yup" and the whole "this is a nuanced issue and you should understand all sides to this issue". Same for atheism vs Christianity. Same for capitalism vs socialism. Same for heterosexuality and homosexuality. "I have a homosexual friend who is an asshole" vs "I have a heterosexual friend who is an asshole".
+--- 93150712
+>>93150191
+Alright, I'll admit. I do hold stock in a lot of companies involved in LLM development and other "AI" (not actually AI) technologies and I have probably started something like half of all the threads predicting that AI will end the world.
+
+It's good for the stock price, alright?
+--- 93150731
+>>93150510
+What is lbi?
+--- 93150780
+>>93150712
+knew it
+--- 93150781
+>>93150731
+Loli Bitch Island
+--- 93150844
+>>93150668
+--- 93151301
+>>93150844
+Skimming it it doesn;t sound too crazy, how is it different for "capitalism kills people"?
+--- 93151377
+>>93151301
+--- 93151420
+>>93148498 (OP)
+>>93150051
+ Skill issue
+--- 93151433
+>>93151420
+--- 93151664
+>>93150618
+You are likely to have a higher number of chromosomes m
+--- 93151715
+>>93149049
+--- 93151785
+>>93148498 (OP)
+I've said multiple times that ChatGPT is closest to corporate middle management in funtional capability.
+--- 93151805
+>>93151785
+>replace the boards of faggot directors with chat gpt
+>It tells you to make a videogame without black people and young anime girls
+--- 93151825
+>>93148498 (OP)
+It's not wrong though, read the first sentence. If you assume that, everything he says is correct. You shouldn't assume it because it's wrong but that's neither here nor there, he merely states that if you do assume this, that's what the result is.
+--- 93151831
+>>93151377
+Have to see the prompt, also needs to be a new instance, if you did it on the same prompt as the communism one you already have an established formula "The statement of X is a controversial and nuanced statement".
+--- 93151865
+>>93150618
+More musicians in a bigger hall may sometimes perform at a slower tempo depending on acoustics.
+--- 93151875
+>>93148498 (OP)
+>it cannot do something right now, so it will never be able to
+i forgot this is the motto of technological progress, amirite /g/ bros?
+--- 93151918
+>>93148498 (OP)
+reminder that nobody knows how LLMs actually work 
+they were shocked it could do any maths at all
+--- 93152030
+>>93151875
+>it's year 1980
+>we'll have flying cars by the year 2020
+--- 93152044
+>>93148498 (OP)
+It you ask the LLM to roleplay as a clever Loli it will give the right answer
+--- 93152069
+>>93151918
+It can't do math. It can coincidentally do math problems that coincidentally are represented in the dataset. The second you get out of elementary school math problems it starts fucking up.
+--- 93152174
+>>93152044
+why is roleplaying as a clever loli in the dataset
+--- 93152242
+>>93152174
+Random shit from all over the internet is in the dataset, and noone even knows really what is in there
+--- 93152265
+>>93148498 (OP)
+>>93148527
+>>93148574
+The thing is that it doesn't actually "solve" problems, it just picks words that probabilistically would be most likely to be written in response to something based on analyzing xbawxhueg amounts of data. Same goes for image generators. They don't actually think in any way, they don't problem solve, they imitate what they're trained on and shuffle data around. ChatGPT and image generators run off of this same principle. That's why you can't ask an image generator to, say, take a character in a scene that it's genned and recreate that character exactly the same but from a different angle in a different pose.
+It's a fundamental flaw in the design of neural networks like these. No amount of "improving" them is going to fix it, they would have to be rebuilt from the ground up to actually learn in some meaningful way rather than mimic data in a way that's just "close enough".
+--- 93152304
+>>93152265
+Are you telling me the height of our technology is throwing things at a wall and seeing what sticks?
+--- 93152413
+>>93152304
+Not that anon but yeah, it's exactly how it works
+So don't expect any big new revelations which aren't already in its dataset
+--- 93152913
+> Be me, cello player in large orchestra (120 people)
+> In love with viola qt3.141 next to me in the pit
+> were quite good, have all of bethovens works mastered
+> so good that we start getting contracted
+> We get invited to perform at a ceremony across the country
+> ohshit.jpeg this is just what we needed, they're paying quite well
+> but shit, we're poor.
+> We can only fly half of our orchestra, the other half will have to go by bus and leave a week early
+> We do a raffle
+> fug.gif I got to be a busfag
+> pack up and leave 2 days later
+> jump to 4 days later, we arrive at the venue and wait for the rest who are flying in to arrive
+> holyfuckingshit.pdf the fucking plane crashes on landing 
+> mfw were down to half the orchestra and qt3.141 was on the plane
+> we need the money, we need to honor them we must perform
+> less relevant people like piccolo players are moved to percussion
+> those of us that can keep time take the lead, conductor was on the plane and we can't get a new one
+> dogshit first 2 rehearsals but we get something half decent by the third
+> mfw 20 or so motherfuckers come down with the flu and we have to skip a rehearsal
+> jump a week to the event
+> we're all shitting bricks, getting ready to play Bethoven's 9th "Ode to joy" while holding back tears
+> get our shit together and wait for our best player to count us in
+> we start, so far so good
+> mind starts to drift, thinking about qt3.141 and the life we could have lived
+> if I wasn't a coward and asked her out perhaps she would've volunteered to take the bus with me
+> I think she liked me
+> ohfuck.webp I'm still performing
+> snap back to reality, realize I'm dragging
+> speed up to catch up
+> mfw other assholes were also daydreaming
+> they speed up
+> I speed up
+> were playing bethovens 9th at 232BPM at this point, double the speed anyone ever intended
+> were in too deep we have to finish
+> mfw we finish a 40 minute piece in just over 20 mins
+> mfw when I remember I gave my seat to the qt3.141
+--- 93152935
+>>93152304
+>height of technology
+IIRC this "height" has been the same for a pretty long time, as ML models have been basically unchanged in principle since their inception. Someone with better memory and more info could correct or confirm that. But yes, that's pretty much it.
+This anon >>93150453 put it better than I did- text and image models are basically glorified search engines. Data they're trained on is encoded to the latent space and it responds to prompts by spewing up points of data from the latent space that are probabilistically most relevant. I don't know as much about how language models work because I'm less a /g/ fag than I am an /ic/ fag, but IIRC some of the biggest improvements to image generators like Stable Diffusion hasn't been in how they're fundamentally designed but rather how efficient they are at encoding and decoding data. The only other real optimization that can be made is to make the outputs more accurate and consistent in accordance to prompts, but even at the theoretical limit of perfection, machine learning models cannot surpass their inherent limitations.
+--- 93152956
+>>93148618
+Real answer: It depends on the conductor or click track.
+--- 93153019
+>>93152935
+My understanding is fuzzy, but from what I have gleaned, ML models don't copy the data that they're trained on verbatim, but they do in a sense record the relations that all the data points have between themselves to create the dataset. The dataset's "latent space" contains the sum total of all the data it has been trained on plus interpolations between the same. Think of the latent space as a graph, except it's a graph with greater than 3 dimensions. Each piece of data it's been trained on corresponds to a point, a set of coordinates, within the latent space. Everything between those points are interpolations, or "fake data" in a sense. The more data there is to pull from, the more interpolations there are, and the more interpolations there are the less likely you'll stumble on the point corresponding to the original data- however when there's not enough data to interpolate between, the interpolated space is very limited and most of it will look recognizably like the originals. Even with a very large set of data, though, if you knew the right coordinates within the latent space you could get output that looks very recognizably like, or even identical, to the input data. Machine learning is not intelligence, or even learning in the way humans think of it- it's all mimicry and mathematical shenanigans creating "fake" data.
+--- 93153046
+>>93149522
+paradise
+--- 93153125
+>>93153019
+This is a video that I found back when I was doing research on image generators which should illustrate the point quite well.
+https://youtu.be/mryOZ1qBaCU [Embed]
+The "latent space" of a machine learning model is fixed and, although *technically* infinite because there are infinite decimal places between all real numbers, is effectively finite because there is only so much that can be meaningfully different between these points.
+--- 93153200
+>>93152935
+At the end of the day these models fundamentally don't know the *why* and *how* which makes AI models inferior outside of pretty gachas. They're a slave to the training data and it's impossible representing anything not in the training data, for example while it sort of understands the concept of mermaids it struggles on any concept that doesn't involve traditional representation of mermaids and the further you traverse away from the training data the more monstrosities you'll find since it's really just pixel autocompleting and if there's not enough data, it just starts going off the deep end. I think to actually get human-level animations from the AI like people want, the models will have to be trained on the fundamentals of mapping pixels in 3D space.
+--- 93153265
+>>93148498 (OP)
+>"people" still think this text amalgam program will somehow turn into AGI
+No.
+--- 93153377
+>>93153126
+kek
+--- 93153486
+>>93153394
+--- 93153523
+>>93153486
+Yeah no, he's completely wrong on that one
+--- 93153860
+>>93152030
+https://youtu.be/hUhzk8lCtL4 [Embed]
+--- 93154225
+>>93148498 (OP)
+>computers have been extremely good at solving math from easy to complex
+>AI gets computation power to do massive amounts of calculations all the time
+>can now talk but looses ability to do even basic math correctly
+Somehow ironic.
+--- 93154241
+>>93153860
+>glorified helicopter prototype
+>wobbles
+>absolutely safe
+sure buddy
+
+I don't want to break it to you, but that is no where close to being approved in the United States. But maybe 10 more years :^)
+--- 93155428
+>>93149522
+i love how he implies europeans wouldnt had invented it instead
+--- 93155438
+>>93149522
+vgh, what could've been...
+--- 93155457
+>>93153200
+>models will have to be trained on the fundamentals of mapping pixels in 3D space
+Yeah, this is something I've said before myself. Letting my inner /ic/ fag out here again, but Loomis isn't just a meme. An artist that's gone beyond mere atelierfaggotry drawing things from pure or near-pure observation have learned to 'model' and construct things from 3D volumes in perspective. The principles of perspective in drawing and that of 3D modeling in computers are one and the same, the only difference being that in drawing perspective is calculated analog with simplified rules of thumb rather than complex geometric calculations. This is why a trained artist can turn an object around without reference, and image generators can't, or rather, just one of the reasons why.
+Even if one were to, say, pair a 3D model generator with image gen, it would still be limited by the fundamental design of all ML algorithms.
+--- 93155483
+>>93153860
+>chinese
+>flying
+>uncovered rotors
+I can almost see the LiveLeak videos now
+--- 93155797
+I guess I'm Team Bard from now on
+--- 93155887
+>>93148527
+yeah check these bars
+--- 93155911
+>>93150510
+Jesus christ.
+
+What is this? Are you running it locally on your phone?
+--- 93155958
+>>93154241
+where did you move the goalpost?
+*gets into his flying car and ascends to a high altitude to find it more easily*
+--- 93155973
+>>93155958
+If you think that contraption is what I meant by "flying car" you autism.
+--- 93156598
+>>93155973
+Flying cars look good in movies, but do most people actually want them?
+Maybe they want one for themselves, but they probably don't want other people flying them over their houses, or to pay for the lessons needed to become proficient at flying them.
+If the actual problem you are trying to solve is traffic congestion, then the solutions for that are mass transit, safe cycling and walking routes, road tunnels, and working from home; none of which require any sci-fi technology.
+--- 93156627
+>>93156598
+>moving goalposts
+>p-people didn't even want flying cars they just want to ride rollerskates
+>b-but machine learning models, they're going to be sentient next year even though they can't even draw fingers
+--- 93156758
+>>93156627
+>p-people didn't even want flying cars
+My point was that people might want flying cars, but they don't want other people to have them, so that's an inherently unfulfillable wish.
+>they're going to be sentient next year
+Try steelmanning instead of strawmanning.
+--- 93156799
+>>93156758
+You have a lot of wishful thinking, but okay buddy, I'm sure one day the AI will be very smart.
+
+>My point was that people might want flying cars, but they don't want other people to have them, so that's an inherently unfulfillable wish.
+You're just regurgitating Youtube trash. People would want flying cars if they were like the movies.
+--- 93157185
+>>93154225
+That's because LLMs were never designed to do math retard
+--- 93157355
+>>93148924
+>it is generally around 70 minutes in length
+>If the orchestra of 120 musicians performs it in 40 minutes, it might be an unusual interpretation
+OP getting respectfully shat on by our new AI overlord
+--- 93157382
+Asking it to generate a list of words made exclusively from a provided selection of letters soured me on this thing. 
+Stop including P you retarded robot motherfucker I do NOT want to see the letter P stop fucking adding it in.
+--- 93157397
+>>93148527
+>This thing supposedly passed a bar exam.
+That's GPT-3.5. GPT-4 is the one that passes the bar. They also dumbed it down by making it politically correct, so just imagine what governments and big businesses have access to

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+-----
+--- 93148637
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlPC3O1DVcg [Embed]
+--- 93148651
+>>93148637 (OP)
+This fuck may have written several books, but at least I don't have to deal with male pattern baldness so I win in the sexy department.
+--- 93148768
+>>93148637 (OP)
+Asked about a suggestion by a commenter on the Linux Weekly News website, who said, during a discussion on the Google post, "The solution here is simple: just use C++ instead of Rust", Torvalds could not restrain himself from chortling. "LOL," was his response. "C++ solves _none_ of the C issues, and only makes things worse. It really is a crap language.
+
+"For people who don't like C, go to a language that actually offers you something worthwhile. Like languages with memory safety and [which] can avoid some of the dangers of C, or languages that have internal GC [garbage collection] support and make memory management easier. C++ solves all the wrong problems, and anybody who says 'rewrite the kernel in C++' is too ignorant to even know that."
+--- 93148815
+>>93148637 (OP)
+someone please post the c vs c++ salt bae meme
+--- 93148847
+>>93148637 (OP)
+>Hulk Hogan if he didn't go into WWE
+--- 93148870
+Danish accents are the worst.
+--- 93148922
+>>93148651
+I was terrified of this (my old man had a chrome dome by 45), until I found out that it tends to be passed down matrilinearly - and both my uncle and grandfather didn't start to thin out until their sixties.
+--- 93148932
+>>93148768
+Why not Pascal then? Thanks to academia's obsession with C and Unix we are still stuck using them.
+--- 93149346
+>>93148932
+academia hates C and jerks off FP langs
+--- 93149371
+>>93148815
+--- 93149414
+>>93149346
+But FP can't actually be used for sudo. Only imperative can. If all you're looking for is alternative syntax, why not go for the syntax that's as different as possible from C?
+--- 93149448
+>>93149371
+>auto
+>template
+retard.
+
+also, the second variant can be applied to many types
+--- 93149470
+>>93148922
+that's old science, they've identified balding genes on both X and Y chromosomes now
+--- 93149537
+>>93148651
+he probably still had more pussy than you ever will
+>>93149371
+kek that nigga is stuck in the 90s
+>>93148922
+>I was terrified of this
+you just get over it when it happens
+--- 93149564
+>>93149470
+That's great anon. However, my hair remains full and lush even though I'm well into my 40s now.
+--- 93149584
+>>93148932
+>academia's obsession with C and Unix
+I really don't know what drives people to keep repeating this meme. C and Unix both originated from industrial research, academia had nothing to do with them at all.
+--- 93149595
+>>93149346
+This used to be true during the 70s and 80s. CS academia has been an OOP hivemind since the late 90s.
+--- 93149616
+>>93149564
+Despite this, you're still stuck in this shithole in your 40s.
+--- 93149673
+>>93148637 (OP)
+>still listening to Barney Starsoup after last week's events
+--- 93149694
+>>93148932
+Could be, Lberon was designed with low level programming in mind and now Modula-2 is supported by GCC.
+--- 93149708
+>>93148870
+You should always compress your photos when uploading them to the Web. There is not reason for pictures to be over 100 kilobytes.
+--- 93149722
+>>93149673
+What happened?
+--- 93149726
+>>93149564
+it's not guaranteed you go bald if your father does, just saying about the chromosomes
+--- 93149732
+>>93149371
+To be fair the bottom one works with everything that uses a +. to be not fair, in a dynamic language the top does the same thing while looking as clean
+--- 93149742
+Bro, did you even listen to Bjaaaarne's interview with Yegor?
+
+https://youtu.be/ae6nFZn3auQ [Embed]
+--- 93149779
+>>93149584
+>C and Unix both originated from industrial research,
+
+True. Then academia bit on it for OS stuff.
+
+>>93149595
+>CS academia has been an OOP hivemind since the late 90s.
+Kind of frightening how quickly they jumped on it. Bureaucracies never move that quickly.
+--- 93149790
+>>93149742
+>Bu-GAY-enko
+haha, gay :DDDDD benis in man buddhole XXDDD
+--- 93149905
+>>93149790
+Not that there's anything wrong with being gay, of course.
+--- 93149924
+>>93149722
+he doesn't know
+--- 93149957
+>>93149924
+Yes I am unaware 
+care to enlighten me?
+--- 93150628
+>>93149957
+Enlightenment is only for the chosen
+--- 93150706
+>>93148932
+>Why not Pascal then?
+Pascal is a structured programming zealotrs circlejerk language, made by structured programming academia for structured programming academia.
+The right answer would have been PL/I, if it wasn't present on IBM platforms only nowadays. Which is a shame for other platforms since it's a way better language than C that was released years before it, but was shunned by academia because of muh goto is bad (while forgetting everything else about the language).
+--- 93150754
+>>93149708
+>>93148870
+mozjpeg without downscaling (still lossy)
+--- 93150843
+>>93150754
+>1.07 MB
+--- 93150854
+>>93150843
+You forgot to post your attempt.
+--- 93150902
+>>93148768
+>Like languages with memory safety
+You mean like C++, via destructors?
+>and [which] can avoid some of the dangers of C
+You mean like C++, with references, templates, smart pointers, and so on?
+
+Torvalds is a fucking retard. Modern C++ has basically none of C's many problems unless you specifically choose to write archaic, C-like code. In which case you're as stupid as Torvalds. C++'s problems are all the C parts, and if your reaction to that is to then go to the language that contains all the problems and none of the good parts of C++ (C) you should probably shoot yourself in the head.
+--- 93150963
+>>93149708
+>you should compress your photos to save cia some storage space
+--- 93151014
+>>93149708
+looks like shit
+>>93150754
+looks pretty good
+--- 93151519
+>>93148637 (OP)
+Bjarne's based as fuck. He's trying to figure out a low-level working language with high abstraction ability and not make some random mess. Though mistakes have been made along the way, I appreciate him for making C++ the way it is now. And he's disgusted by trannies, so that's another win.
+--- 93151575
+>>93150902
+Then why do "Modern C++" projects still get weekly CVEs?
+--- 93151818
+>>93151575
+not modern enough, or have some ancient dependencies, probably in C
+--- 93151986
+>>93151818
+>my specific, perfect, entirely infaillible brand of C++ has never been tried
+all hail bjarne lenin
+--- 93152398
+>>93150902
+Serious reply for a second
+You can trivially get a use-after-free in C++ just by passing around const references to objects that don't live as long as a cursory examination would suggest
+The "modern" "antidote" to this disease is to replace references with shared_ptr everywhere, like how Swift works by default
+However, the performance tradeoff is a fucking disaster, so you can clearly see that this isn't a solution and C++ still has glaringly unsolved problems with memory safety
+I don't expect C++ cultists to admit fault here considering Bjarney himself is still in denial, but the actual adults are aware of the situation and are prepared to make sacrifices to stop the bleeding
+--- 93152426
+>>93150902
+t. read a million blogposts and yet never written a single line of sepples
+--- 93152454
+>>93150706
+How is PL/I better than C?
+--- 93152506
+>>93149779
+>Then academia bit on it for OS stuff.
+The only impactful OS research effort actually originating from academia was the TRON project, which was Japanese. In Europe, Oberon originated from research at ETH Zurich, but it had very little influence afterwards.
+
+In the US, virtually all OS research and development was done outside of academia.
+--- 93152609
+>>93152398
+Well put. What really grinds my gears about C++ cultists is the sheer denial about flaws of the language even when pointed out in plain English.
+
+Every skilled programmer I know who uses C++, whether by necessity or by choice, fully admits that the language is a clusterfuck. It's only on the internet and on blogposts that you keep seeing "you just don't get it", "just get good", etc. Programming is not about memorizing every nook and cranny of a particular programming language, and C++ is unbelievably more complicated than virtually every other programming language with widespread industry use.
+--- 93152675
+>>93151818
+what version would you consider modern?
+--- 93152728
+>>93150902
+>destructors
+>references, templates, smart pointers
+None of this make C++ memory safe. Learn what memory safety is.
+--- 93152744
+>>93152398
+Tranny level IQ on display folks.
+--- 93152745
+>>93150902
+>memory safety
+>via destructors
+You don't even understand what memory safety means.
+--- 93152754
+>>93152609
+>Programming is not about memorizing every nook and cranny of a particular programming language
+C++ makes this necessary, so baby ducks think it's a normal part of programming, and assume subconsciously that you have to repeat the same effort when switching to any other language
+In reality, even Haskell isn't that bad
+Scala and Ada are the closest things I can think of to the untamed monster of C++ complexity
+>>93152744
+Sneed
+--- 93152938
+>>93148637 (OP)
+Made C++ AND hates trannies. Went on eBay looking for PPP2 and right there was a giant grey New Balance shoe almost like it was a sign. Yup gonna learn Sepples
+--- 93153104
+>>93152454
+It had parallel processing and process synchronisation support before C even was a thing, exception handling implemented in a non-retarded way, actual variable-lenght string handling capabilities, statement terminators not mandatory among other things.
+C is an overly simplistic language even by 1970s standards, never was meant to be anything more than a toy at Bell Labs.
+--- 93153222
+Fuck this guy. C++ is crap.
+--- 93153470
+>>93152398
+Speaking as a long time CUDA/C++ dev (I don't know rust)
+C++ is not and was never designed to "provably memory safe", let's get that hurdle out of the way right now. 
+You can trivially get any memory error in C++
+>*(int*)0;
+>while (true) new int;
+>delete (int*)0xDEADBEEF
+>for (auto& i : vec) vec.push_back(rand());
+etc. 
+
+How often do I encounter these issues in practice? Basically never.
+And so I do not care about rust, the problems it tries to solve aren't even problems I have. 
+There just isn't an incentive to even look at it.
+--- 93153482
+>>93153222
+What's the alternative
+--- 93153710
+>>93153470
+>How often do I encounter these issues in practice? Basically never.
+In your own code? Fine
+In someone else's code? Now you're in trouble
+
+Even if it's open source, meaning you theoretically have the right to review it, who has time for that?
+These mistakes happen all the time, especially in old code, or code written by teams, or code that needs multiple threads to do its job fast enough
+Giant codebases (browsers, office software, video games, etc.) make it astronomically more likely than in some 3000-line utility you wrote for a one-off data processing job
+You're obviously not a hardcore technological ascetic, because you're posting here, but even if you were daily driving an IBM 5100, you can't stop government offices from using popular software written in third rate C++ with CVEs spewing out the wazoo
+In a nutshell, important decisions about your life are being made with software that would never meet your standards, and you're putting blinders on because you think you lift enough weights to repel cyberfuckups just by flexing your muscles
+But I guess you're happy with that
+--- 93154151
+>>93152506
+>The only impactful OS research effort actually originating from academia was the TRON project, which was Japanese. In Europe, Oberon originated from research at ETH Zurich, but it had very little influence afterwards.
+Lisp machines came from MIT.
+--- 93154178
+>>93148637 (OP)
+>Bjarne Stroustrup:
+stopped reading there. the dude is delusional and still seething over the NSA calling C++ out as being hot garbage.
+--- 93154215
+>>93148768
+>Asked about a suggestion by a commenter on the Linux Weekly News website, who said, during a discussion on the Google post, "The solution here is simple: just use C++ instead of Rust", Torvalds could not restrain himself from chortling. "LOL," was his response. "C++ solves _none_ of the C issues, and only makes things worse. It really is a crap language.
+This is a satire post right? No fucking way Linus said that. No fucking way he's that retarded.
+--- 93154248
+>>93152744
+shit troll
+--- 93154304
+I respect both Bjarne and Linus but I think Linus's opinion is very outdated.
+Still, I would not fall into the Rust meme. I'd rather listen to the opinion of a real programmer:
+
+https://youtu.be/1vFtkfz_v4Q?t=56 [Embed]
+--- 93154348
+>>93154215
+He's right though
+--- 93154361
+>>93154304
+>I respect both Bjarne and Linus
+You shouldn't. Linus has been nothing but a pencil pusher the past few decades. He was only relevant in the early days of the Kernel when he was alone. Linux in the past 2 decades has largely been progressed by Corporation employees, not Linus. Linus is just a head man that okays or goes on angry rants to spark drama
+--- 93154446
+>>93148637 (OP)
+>https://yewtu.be/watch?v=K3W56e9j4UY
+>sepples is le good because you can define your own types
+This interview clearly shows this guy has no clue what he's talking about
+He's on the same level as PHP's original developer
+--- 93154498
+>>93154446
+>The creator of C++ has no clue what he's talking about
+I'm so sick of these low IQ troll posts. If you have no clue what you're talking about then shut the fuck up and go back to your shitty consumer flamewar threads.
+--- 93154521
+>>93153710
+Encounter as in "have to fix", it doesn't have to be my own code.
+Right now I'm fixing up a rather shitty C++ codebase, the code is so convoluted and inefficient that it's hard to describe, curiously no memory errors though because at least they had the good sense to just use std::vector everywhere. 
+I'm not advocating against rust, especially in security critical applications where extra checks are always good to have
+But the "rewrwite everything in Rust, C/C++ is deprecated" attitude is a bit much for me. 
+I feel I can confidently say that HPC does not need something like rust.
+--- 93154538
+>>93154498
+This nigger talks about how much he loved Simula, even though Alan Kay has clearly stated that sepples' implementation of objects has barely anything to do with that.
+No wonder stroupstroup liked Algol. He should have taken Thompson's criticisms to heart instead of being a crybaby.
+--- 93154724
+>>93154178
+>NSA calling C++ out as being hot garbage.
+sauce?
+--- 93154746
+>>93154521
+>HPC
+Fine, all right, I'm sure half your logic is matrix multiplication routines written in Fortran, so who cares
+Network-facing code (including fucking Bluetooth, which can go bite a dick) is the most critical use case for memory safety, followed by anything that might open untrusted files that were sent over the network
+The trouble is, that covers almost everything that exists on a user's machine
+--- 93154836
+>>93148637 (OP)
+>please stop using c and use my language instead
+LOL
+--- 93154869
+>>93153470
+you've only ever written perfect cuda code without any accidental OOB accesses or data races, never had to use cuda-memcheck?
+--- 93154973
+>>93149708
+I like looking at cartoon girl pussy in 5k though.
+--- 93155039
+>>93153470
+t. never wrote a single line of C, C++, or cuda.
+--- 93155140
+>>93148870
+That's fucking cheap. And the halfbrain labeling that can't do basic math.
+--- 93155155
+>>93154498
+If you want more proof of this, just look at the c++ language.
+--- 93155212
+>>93154498
+It is a well-known fact stroustrup has no clue about non-embryonic c++, and even that his understanding of embryonic c++ wasn't all that good (remember, it wasn't a solo effort).
+--- 93155216
+>>93154869
+I write broken code, it fails an assert or causes a launch error or whatever, I fix it and move on with life.
+So?
+>>93154746
+If you want to write Bluetooth drivers in rust go right ahead, seems like a good use for it. 
+>>93155039
+I wrote 4 lines of valid C/C++/CUDA in the post you're replying to, retard.
+--- 93155302
+>>93155216
+I accept your surrender.
+--- 93155475
+>>93154215
+jeez i wonder who knows more about programming, the guy who wrote and maintains a 20 million loc kernel or the underage faggot on /g/ whose only argument against rust is that it's made by trannies
+--- 93155657
+>>93155475
+Linus did not write nor maintain a 20 million loc kernel at any point in time.
+--- 93155688
+>>93148651
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiMBzpZF1nE [Embed]
+--- 93155693
+>>93154151
+Were Lisp machines impactful?
+Like, hold off on convincing me they're good, I've heard plenty about that, I'm an Emacs user—were other operating systems influenced by them? Did they introduce new concepts that became widely adopted? Do Fuchsia and Midori developers speak fondly of them?
+--- 93155953
+>>93155693
+Lisp itself was insanely impactful and languages have tried to ape its features from the lisp days all the way to today. The latest trends like jupyter notebooks are literally just trying to copy the conditions/restarts-based workflow of lisp + SLIME-like environments, but let's not forget that things like lambdas in a programming language are everywhere now when they used to be considered fringe, for example.
+
+Lisp machines were not altogether impactful as far as I'm aware, although their design did influence hardware jvm implementations for java later on.
+--- 93156300
+>>93148932
+based and wirthpilled
+--- 93156409
+>>93155693
+>Were Lisp machines impactful?
+Only in the imaginations of Lisp weenies.
+--- 93156445
+>>93148637 (OP)
+I would love to ask that Stroustrup guy what he thinks the biggest mistakes in modern C++ are. What things would he take out if he didn't have to worry about existing programs that use them?
+--- 93156464
+>>93155475
+>the guy who wrote and maintains a 20 million loc kernel
+Linux was only involved in actual coding of the kernel in the early stages when it was extremely barebones and less than 100k LOC. You really think Linus alone added compatibility for over 100 different systems? lmao Linus Kernel is like 99% vendor written
+--- 93156516
+>>93156464
+Interestingly, the version he first put out didn't even work and the community had to debug it for him. That was straight out of an OS class and was no more complex than you'd expect from that. By then it was already no longer really him doing the writing. He was just at the right place and right time and advertised to the right people (those in the minix user group) to get their interest.
+--- 93156571
+>>93148932
+Pascal is pain to write and lacks tons of features.
+--- 93156613
+if you take all the good parts and have the best practices as the default you'd just get rust
+--- 93156729
+>>93156571
+t. no idea what pascal is or does
+--- 93156785
+Carbon will save C++. Google's Go is insanely successful and if it wasn't for the GC it would easily topple Rust in Systems Programming. Google Cargon will be what Go is to Java for C++.
+--- 93156796
+>>93148932
+Pascal doesn't have any memory safety guarantees either. It just has stronger typing than C.
+--- 93156830
+>>93148932
+How old are you? Academia fetishizes python for desktop development and javascript for mobile development.
+--- 93157073
+Pascal was pretty based, and could easily compete with C (not C++). I remember using it in the 90s. If it got proper platform SDKs (like WinAPI) sooner, it would probably be way more successful. There was Delphi, but it wasn't really a platform SDK.
+--- 93157191
+>>93157073
+The worst part is that pascal was supposed to be a learning language, not fit for actual use, yet it was much better than C(rap).
+--- 93157234
+>>93156464
+>>93155657
+He wrote git
+--- 93157238
+>>93156830
+Fuck the trans genocide, pynigger, jsnigger, academianigger genocide when
+--- 93157242
+>>93157234
+>he doomed us with g*t
+Yeah, we know
+--- 93157296
+>>93157242
+is that source code? IMMA GONNA FOOOOOOOOORK!
+--- 93157324
+>>93157242
+based hg user

g/93148650.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,138 @@
+-----
+--- 93148650
+between these two text editors only - which one has the /g/ seal of approval?
+--- 93148663
+>>93148650 (OP)
+--- 93148670
+>>93148650 (OP)
+Neither. There is only Notepad.exe.
+--- 93148671
+>>93148650 (OP)
+>which one has the /g/ seal of approval?
+--- 93149018
+>>93148650 (OP)
+vscode is literally a website, so take a guess
+--- 93149043
+>>93148650 (OP)
+come home, white man
+(but seriously speaking, sublime if i needed a text editor and VSCode if i needed an IDE)
+--- 93149082
+>>93149043
+>jeetbrains
+--- 93149093
+>>93148650 (OP)
+sublime text is fucking shareware, which is malware/spyware you dope. vscode binaries are proprietary, which is malware/spyware you dope. YOU DOPE. use vim or vscodium
+--- 93149352
+>>93149093
+spoken like a true retarded autist. Sublime is great.
+--- 93149380
+VSCode, duh.
+--- 93149512
+>>93149352
+>sublime is great
+>spyware is great
+lol
+--- 93149661
+vim>sublime>vs code
+even visual studio is better than vs code
+--- 93150318
+>>93149093
+>vscodium
+ssh remote is the entire reason I picked vscode over the alternatives and it will never be made accessible to vscopium
+--- 93150349
+>>93150318
+what are you talking about? vscodium is identical to vscode minus the telemetry. LOL, what are you even talking about
+--- 93150438
+>>93148663
+I prefer Vim solely because of the logo designz I like it so much, it's pure soul.
+--- 93150456
+>>93149512
+you don't know the definition of spyware, at this point you're just throwing buzzwords like a retard. sublime is gr8 btw
+--- 93150680
+>>93148650 (OP)
+Sublime is 2014 shit bro
+--- 93150701
+>>93150349
+No settings sync, which is one of the killer features of Code.
+--- 93150808
+>>93150349
+Nah, it's missing the RemoteSSH extension thing. 
+(The Good one).
+--- 93150823
+You can get all of the proprietary extensions working in OSS builds and forks of VSCode. Lurk more.
+
+Whether you should bother or not is another story...
+--- 93150870
+>nonfree-niggerware A vs nonfree-niggerware B
+lol
+--- 93151074
+>>93148650 (OP)
+Lens the kubernetes ide
+--- 93151077
+For me it's Dewm Eyymacs
+--- 93151555
+>>93150701
+imagine not understanding how to back up a json file, holy shit
+--- 93151934
+>>93149512
+>>93150456
+I imagine vscode is literally spyware. 
+I really don't know about Sublime Text - how true is this? Does Sublime spy on you as well? I don't care if it's shareware / pay. I don't mind paying for something I will end up using every day. Also you can use the free version of Sublime unrestricted as far as I know.
+--- 93152009
+>>93151934
+shareware means proprietary
+proprietary means closed source
+closed source means you cannot prove what it is doing
+all closed source must be assumed to be spyware because of this
+--- 93152320
+>>93152009
+isnt vscode open source? im less likely to true MS than a single lonely dev just trying to make a living from this text editor project.
+--- 93152453
+>>93150808
+I don't use vscode but lmao how
+Why would an extension work on vscode but not vscodium
+--- 93152618
+Vs code as its free as in free beer
+--- 93152663
+Sublime
+>Fast, opens in less than a second
+>Very light, not fucking 250MB
+>Not a fucking web browser
+--- 93153554
+>>93152320
+vscode is open soruce, but it's then compiled and the binary is proprietary, they do extra things to the code on compile, so exactly what you see in the code is not exactly what is in the binary. hence why vscodium exists. vscodium is a compile of the source you see in the repo. microsoft are evil shitheads, as usual.
+--- 93153574
+>>93152618
+yes, but not the compiled binary
+--- 93155127
+OP here. So what's the verdict /g/? 
+I start class soon . . .
+--- 93155318
+>>93155127
+sublime text if you happen to be a white man. vscode otherwise
+--- 93155819
+>>93148650 (OP)
+The real answer is vscode for better defaults, more extension support, and more tutorials for dumbasses but it's slow as all hell. Sublime is faster but every single sublime package is abandonware.
+The better answer is that your choice of text editor doesn't matter since you can functionally extend it with LSP without hit being a pain in the ass
+--- 93156641
+>>93155819
+>every single sublime package is abandonware
+they just work
+--- 93156656
+vscode is what happened when a bunch of sublime users got fed up with its bugs and lack of updates.
+--- 93156701
+>>93148650 (OP)
+>Visual Studio
+>VSCode
+>Eclipse
+in that order. the rest doesn't matter.
+--- 93156903
+2023-14 is calling wanting its text editor back
+
+Sublime ain't vim or emacs, nuke that shit from your device.
+Also uninstall winrar and winzip and install 7zip, the fuck is wrong with you?
+--- 93156911
+>>93148650 (OP)
+i hate vscode for being literal web browser bloat, but its so much better to use.
+i hate sublime for being unmaintained and proprietary, but its a real text editor.
+ive chosen sublime but i do miss vscode conveniences for time to time. i cant stand vscode taking up 300+ mb of ram when everything else on my system is lightweight

g/93148660.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,97 @@
+-----
+--- 93148660
+If you want to create a window that the user can click through.
+On MacOS:     (void)setIgnoresMouseEvents:(BOOL)ignoreMouseEvents
+ 
+
+On GNU/Linux you have to jump through thousand hoops and find a solution that works on both X and Wayland.
+I love GNU/Linux but why must developing for it be so convoluted?
+--- 93148694
+>>93148660 (OP)
+It's been a while since I needed to do anything this weird, but I believe Windows makes it pretty hard, too. I seem to recall I basically had to re-wire DefWindowProc.
+--- 93149357
+NIGGER
+--- 93150427
+>>93148660 (OP)
+because all the devs who know their shit use macos
+--- 93150483
+>>93150427
+But the hardware is shit compared to the price point.
+--- 93150485
+>>93148694
+>had to re-wire DefWindowProc
+in windows you need to "rewire" defwindowproc for any kind of input processing, that's how the system works. if you want it to pass to the window below you simply set a flag to pass through rather than actually handling the click
+--- 93150500
+>>93150483
+yes because all the 160 IQ elite devs buying up the the macbooks push the price up
+--- 93150541
+>>93148660 (OP)
+Mac OS X is simply a better OS that is properly thought out unlike linux.
+--- 93150617
+>>93150541
+It's true, but also applicable to windows. NT is unironically a very well-designed kernel (better than mach or linux by far). It's plagued by garbage implementation and pajeet shitting in the codebase instead of shitting in the loo, though. However, >>93148660 (OP) is completely unrelated to linux, it's a userland problem. Also
+>giving a shit about w*yl*nd
+The X11 solution is
+XRectangle rect;
+XserverRegion region = XFixesCreateRegion(display, &rect, 1);
+XFixesSetWindowShapeRegion(display, window, ShapeInput, 0, 0, region);
+XFixesDestroyRegion(display, region);
+
+With xfixes.
+--- 93150919
+this is dead simple with Qt:
+void Foo::mousePressEvent(QKeyEvent *e) {
+  e->ignore();
+}
+--- 93151465
+>>93150919
+that only works within the application, retard not OS wide at all
+--- 93151475
+>>93148660 (OP)
+lmao
+--- 93151497
+Why cat concerned
+--- 93152264
+>>93151465
+Are you clinically retarded?
+--- 93152387
+>>93152264
+holy shit you still don't understand what OP is talking about
+--- 93152433
+>>93148660 (OP)
+>find a solution that works on both X and Wayland
+Fuck that. I'm writing software for X11. If fags want to use it on wayland they can use xwayland. And if that doesn't work, they can get fucked.
+--- 93152447
+>>93152433
+will never use your shitty sfotware
+--- 93153047
+>>93150919
+cringe
+--- 93153274
+>>93151465
+OS wide what? you're not making any sense anon. nothing in OP's text was OS-wide anything either
+--- 93153293
+>>93153047
+give several reasons why
+--- 93154653
+>>93153293
+>cringe
+thats why
+--- 93156272
+>>93151497
+kys
+--- 93156441
+>you have to use objective c to create a window
+horrifying, no thank you
+--- 93156533
+>>93156441
+Smalltalk and C are both good languages and a fusion of them is even better.
+--- 93156535
+>>93148660 (OP)
+if you're using glfw3 compile from source and just 
+
+glfwSetWindowHint(GLFW_MOUSEPASSTHROUGH,GLFW_TRUE)
+works on win32,mac,x,fagland
+if you're doing it using pure xlib
+I don't remember the exact code but something that has to do with the windowshape objects size being set to zero by zero
+I've never did anything on gayland and with glfw3 i no longer need to write and test everything three times

g/93148905.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,492 @@
+-----
+--- 93148905
+prev
+>>93124640 →
+
+What are you working on, /g/?
+--- 93148933
+ww@ ziggers?
+--- 93148938
+>>93148905 (OP)
+oh look another r*st OP pic
+--- 93149006
+Reposting
+
+error[E0277]: the trait bound `[u8; 1920]: Pod` is not satisfied
+  --> src\application\eyes\camera\mod.rs:71:31
+   |
+71 |             let sub_buffer = allocator.from_iter(frame.0.array_chunks::<CHUNK_SIZE>().copied())?;
+   |                                        ^^^^^^^^^ the trait `Pod` is not implemented for `[u8; 1920]`
+   |
+   = help: the following other types implement trait `Pod`:
+             [T; 0]
+             [T; 1024]
+             [T; 10]
+             [T; 11]
+             [T; 128]
+             [T; 12]
+             [T; 13]
+             [T; 14]
+           and 34 others
+   = note: required for `[u8; 1920]` to implement `AnyBitPattern`
+   = note: required for `[u8; 1920]` to implement `BufferContents`
+
+
+but
+
+unsafe impl Pod for u8 {}
+unsafe impl<T, const N: usize> Pod for [T; N] where T: Pod {}
+
+
+Does anyone know if const generics have some edgecases where they fallback into set of fixed numbers instead of covering all numbers?
+--- 93149027
+private readonly object _lockObj = new object();
+
+
+lock (_lockObj){
+    //do some shit
+}
+
+
+is this really the preferred way for thread locking in c#? creating a private variable just for locking like that seems hella cringe
+--- 93149103
+>>93149006
+that might be an inference problem, if you specify more types or traits somewhere it could fix it. you haven't given enough information to understand with no context
+--- 93149150
+>>93149006
+>>93149103
+nvm, just found out that code included in online docs for bytemuck was compiled with all the features and I do not have min_const_generics feature enabled.
+--- 93149162
+>>93149027
+yeah apparently Mutexes in C# are only the interprocess kind, and you just lock some random object you use as a mutex kek.
+
+Idk if it has atomic types, probably.
+--- 93149326
+rewriting c++ game engine in c
+--- 93149407
+>>93149326
+rewrite it in rust
+--- 93149471
+Reminding anons to use https://github.com/friendlyanon/cmake-init when creating new C++ and C projects!
+--- 93149517
+Say whatever about Go and C++, Rust is fucking unreadable.
+--- 93149529
+>try to program
+>zone out staring at computer screen instead
+how do I fix this?
+--- 93149590
+>>93149529
+start behaving like a normal human being.
+--- 93149653
+>read mentors manifest
+Hackers were supposed to inherit the earth but instead we got EU regulations and american trannies.
+We are living in the worst timeline.
+--- 93149730
+>>93149529
+>>93149653
+not your blog
+--- 93149762
+woah... I wonder if there's a type_trait or concept that lets you compare a class template to a template instantiation's type and match them?
+
+as in
+std::vector<int> buf;
+
+std::is_vector_type<decltype(buf)>
+
+instead of 
+std::is_vector_of_int<decltype(buf)>
+--- 93149914
+>>93149762
+caveat: does not work if you're using non-type template parameters
+#include <type_traits>
+
+template <typename T, template <typename...> typename U>
+class is_instantiation_of
+{
+private:
+    template <typename ...Ts>
+    static std::true_type detector(U<Ts...>&);
+    static std::false_type detector(auto&);
+public:
+    constexpr static bool value = decltype(detector(std::declval<T&>()))::value;
+};
+
+template <typename T, template <typename...> typename U>
+constexpr bool is_instantiation_of_v = is_instantiation_of<T, U>::value;
+
+// is_instantiation_of_v<std::vector<int>, std::vector> is true
+// is_instantiation_of_v<std::list<int>, std::vector> is false
+--- 93150186
+>>93149914
+that's exactly what I wanted it for...
+--- 93150215
+>>93150186
+(the non-type template param ones)
+--- 93150265
+>>93150186
+>>93150215
+what class template do you want to use it for? specifically what is its kind
+--- 93150266
+learning autotools
+--- 93150376
+void add_cats_to_list(vector<string>& cats) 
+{
+    write_line("How many cats do you want to add to the list?");
+    int name_loops = read_integer("Enter a number: ");
+    for (int i = 0; i < name_loops; i++) {
+        names.push_back(read_string("Enter new cat: "));
+    }
+}
+
+Does anyone know why this doesn't appear in my terminal? I'm calling it in main() as 'add_cats_to_list(cats);'. I'm not getting any errors so idk what to debug. write_line and read_integer is from splashkit.
+--- 93150400
+Which one, /g/?
+
+A:
+static const uint32_t mod_dst_decode[] =
+{
+        DST_MEM,
+        DST_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE,
+        DST_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL,
+        DST_REG,
+};
+
+static const uint32_t mod_src_decode[] =
+{
+        SRC_MEM,
+        SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE,
+        SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL,
+        SRC_REG,
+};
+
+void decode_modrm_byte(struct x86_instruction *instr, byte **p)
+{
+        uint8_t modrm = read_u8(p);
+
+        instr->mod     = (modrm & 0xc0) >> 6;
+        instr->reg_opc = (modrm & 0x38) >> 3;
+        instr->rm      = (modrm & 0x7);
+
+        if (instr->flags & DIR_REVERSED)
+                instr->flags |= mod_src_decode[instr->mod];
+        else
+                instr->flags |= mod_dst_decode[instr->mod];
+
+        if (instr->mod == 0 && instr->rm == 6)
+                if (instr->flags & DIR_REVERSED)
+                        instr->flags = (instr->flags & ~SRC_MEM) | SRC_MEM_DISP;
+                else
+                        instr->flags = (instr->flags & ~DST_MEM) | DST_MEM_DISP;
+}
+
+
+--- 93150418
+>>93150400
+B:
+
+static const uint32_t mod_dst_decode[4][8] =
+{
+        DST_MEM, DST_MEM, DST_MEM, DST_MEM, DST_MEM, DST_MEM, DST_MEM_DISP, DST_MEM,
+        DST_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE,
+        DST_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, DST_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL,
+        DST_REG, DST_REG, DST_REG, DST_REG, DST_REG, DST_REG, DST_REG, DST_REG,
+};
+
+static const uint32_t mod_src_decode[4][8] =
+{
+        SRC_MEM, SRC_MEM, SRC_MEM, SRC_MEM, SRC_MEM, SRC_MEM, SRC_MEM_DISP, SRC_MEM,
+        SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_BYTE,
+        SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL, SRC_MEM_REG_DISP_FULL,
+        SRC_REG, SRC_REG, SRC_REG, SRC_REG, SRC_REG, SRC_REG, SRC_REG, SRC_REG,
+};
+
+void decode_modrm_byte(struct x86_instruction *instr, byte **p)
+{
+        uint8_t modrm = read_u8(p);
+
+        instr->mod     = (modrm & 0xc0) >> 6;
+        instr->reg_opc = (modrm & 0x38) >> 3;
+        instr->rm      = (modrm & 0x7);
+
+        if (instr->flags & DIR_REVERSED)
+                instr->flags |= mod_src_decode[instr->mod][instr->rm];
+        else
+                instr->flags |= mod_dst_decode[instr->mod][instr->rm];
+}
+
+
+--- 93150460
+B
+--- 93150488
+>>93150265
+template<std::size_t NumItem>
+struct Foos
+{
+   int Roh[NumItem]{};
+   bool Dah{false};
+};
+
+
+Foos<3> f1;
+Foos<1024> f2;
+--- 93150615
+>>93150376
+post all relevant code, the snippet you have makes no sense. Put it in a pastebin or something.
+--- 93150638
+>>93150488
+template <typename T>
+class IsFoos
+{
+private:
+    template <size_t sz>
+    static std::true_type detector(Foos<sz>&);
+    static std::false_type detector(auto&);
+public:
+    constexpr static bool value = decltype(detector(std::declval<T&>()))::value;
+};
+
+template <typename T>
+constexpr bool IsFoos_v = IsFoos<T>::value;
+--- 93150648
+The original Rust compiler was written in OCaml.
+--- 93150690
+>>93150648
+Was the original quintessential rust user french too?
+--- 93150700
+>>93150615
+https://pastebin.com/HVVGsEcs
+--- 93150994
+I managed to wrangle a better function name out of chatgpt. I wish it wasn't so eager to give useless garbage code examples.
+--- 93151058
+>>93151038
+sorry wrong example
+--- 93151813
+>>93150700
+what exactly is wrong with it? does it skip the whole thing or just a part? What output are you seeing and what are you expecting?
+--- 93151840
+>>93150700
+Nowhere in the code you posted does that snippet appear. Also, you make a lot of unnecessary copies in that code - many functions should be accepting the vectors by const reference instead of by value.
+
+The next time you ask a question, please post the minimal code you actually ran along with a description of the error and expected output.
+--- 93151867
+>>93151795
+>>>/g/wdg
+--- 93152096
+Hi
+
+I want to git gut at lua but but reading the offical docs makes my retarded brain hurt, what is a good interactive website to learn on?
+--- 93152212
+Hello laddies and faggots
+Drew is shittalking /dpt/. He believes himself the best programmer in the world currently alive, and uses the following software as evidence of this:
+>sourcehut git host
+>helios/ares kernel and OS
+>himitsu password manager
+>hare programming language
+>sway window manager for wayland
+>wlroots utils for wayland
+He also says
+>Are you retarded? When has /dpt/ produced more than fizzbuzz
+Well, /dpt/? What do you have to say about that? Are you superior to drew the fault?
+--- 93152241
+>>93152212
+Just tell him to go back to >>>/u/
+--- 93152323
+>>93152096
+you can make good projects from bad code, getting good at a language for the purpose of getting good is a flawed way of learning a language, generally if you want to get better at programming you need to read the code of talented programmers and just strive for simplicity.
+prioritize the project over the language, you will naturally get better if you use code for real world situations.
+I liked this one section in Lua Programming Gems (but the version of lua is pretty old, and if you are using luajit half of the knowledge does not apply).
+https://www.lua.org/gems/sample.pdf
+--- 93152369
+>>93152096
+>interactive
+what about making a game with it?
+love2d.org/
+--- 93152373
+>>93152241
+Here's his response:
+>>goes to /u/ for first time in n years
+>Honestly a lot of it looks pretty good, idk what the issue is.
+>guess i'd prefer browsing porn on /b/ because cunny allowed but, doesn't look too bad desu
+why hate? is it just a >muh faggots thing?
+--- 93152401
+>>93150638
+ah I see... TY
+--- 93152580
+>>93152369
+Thats what I want to do ultimately, but I try reading other peoples src and they usually use OO libs that get really heavy into the meta tables and other stuff I don't understand so I end up just getting lost
+I thought that building a better lua foundation might help me over come that and was wondering /g/ know any good interactive lua tutorial websites that are not 9 hour indian youtube vids or SEO dogshit websites trying to get a subscription
+--- 93152649
+taking me a long fuckign time to get through the rust book
+
+i would "just start programming bro" but some of the concepts are new so i'm finding it hard to read code
+--- 93153007
+>>93152649
+Rust is a hard language. Do you have any past experiences with systems programming?
+Take your time and do very small programs/challenges to practice on your way. Reading the book is just the beginning, it takes some time to really understand how do these concepts play out in practice.
+--- 93153029
+>>93152212
+I'm better programmer than him. Who cares.
+--- 93153037
+>>93152580
+The language is low on that stuff. I read the docs (well, the PiL book) after I already knew another language and once you've already seen another language, typical OO, etc. I don't think it's that hard to get the docs, and then you can just do whatever with tables? I don't know if there's another way to do it.
+--- 93153165
+>>93153029
+Based
+--- 93153389
+Implementing multisegment and paging in x86 in NASM. Not without some weird macros to ease writing this shit.
+--- 93153406
+>>93153389
+Just go for x86_64 and forget about segments.
+--- 93153975
+>>93153389
+why are you doing x86 assembly? why not just use c, c++ or any other language?
+--- 93154064
+>>93153975
+hate NPC responses like this.
+if he wanted to use something else he would.
+he blatantly chose asm for a reason
+--- 93154168
+>>93154064
+because assembly is obsolete for most things unless you're doing something like writing your own bootloader. i want to know his reason and if its a good one.
+--- 93154188
+>>93154168
+>because assembly is obsolete for most things
+"too much work / effort for me" != obsolete
+--- 93154220
+>>93154168
+If it was obsolete, it wouldn't be mandatory for good performance to this day.
+--- 93154379
+>>93154188
+Sometimes a faster write time is more important than performance.
+
+>>93154220
+What are you doing that requires assembly instead of a good compiler with optimizations?
+--- 93154449
+>>93154379
+>Sometimes a faster write time is more important than performance.
+prove it fag
+--- 93154470
+>>93154379
+>What are you doing that requires assembly instead of a good compiler with optimizations?
+larping
+--- 93154511
+>>93154379
+Why is this neurotic behavior so common?
+>you can't use that you have to use this
+so bizarre
+--- 93154527
+>>93154379
+Personally, simulation work. But it's also a common problem in things as "mundane" as video encoding and decoding (see for example dav1d), cryptography, emulation, etc.
+--- 93154539
+>>93153007
+I used C about 20 years ago but in recent years only high level languages like Scala, Java, Ruby, and more recently Go (which is the only one that actually deals with things like pointers). In C I remember doing things like allocating memory and then freeing it, but that's the extent of my knowledge of memory management.
+
+As an aside I am a bit worried about wasting my time because I would like to go into systems programming but Rust has a very limited job market right now.
+--- 93154620
+>>93154539
+Learn C++ first then if you are worried about job. You can always learn Rust later.
+Rust has much fewer jobs, but also much fewer programmers. If you are fine with working remotely then you shouldn't have that much of an issue in finding an offer, but you still need to learn the language. C++ might be a safer option if you want to take less risk.
+--- 93154660
+>>93154379
+>What are you doing that requires assembly instead of a good compiler with optimizations?
+sometimes you gotta hand write some asm to abuse magic hardware instructions. compilers are smart but not omniscient
+--- 93154755
+Does Zig have real applications as an alternative to C programs that would make it worth learning? Or do you think it's going to wind up another cult language like Nim? I've seen large projects with corporate backing like Bun that use Zig, but I wonder if that makes it worthwhile to learn and work in.
+--- 93154821
+>>93154755
+what kinds of things would really tip your opinion into using it? I've never understood this rationale with programming langs.
+If it looks promising, just try it for yourself? Why do you need 50 corporations or projects giving the thumbs up before you do? 
+People are productive in good and bad langs.
+--- 93154889
+>>93154821
+There's no point in using a language that does nothing more than your current language of choice. There is a larger ecosystem of libraries and tools for your language which you automatically lose if you choose another memelang, so obviously you need to gain something of at least equivalent value for your use case for it to be worth trying out.
+--- 93154966
+>>93154889
+>so obviously you need to gain something of at least equivalent value for your use case for it to be worth trying out.
+So again, how do you discern that? 
+Do you let a corporation tell you, if so , then how many?
+A project or two of completely arbitrary value/worth based on your opinions?
+Or... do you just learn more about the lang and try it?
+--- 93154977
+>>93154821
+I guess it's more about transferrable skills, but I like to learn languages where I feel comfortable that knowing language semantics could help me down the line if I want to use the language on another large project or at work. I don't use corpo approval as a means of judging a language's quality by any means, but it's somewhat of an indicator as to whether people with money think it'll have longetivity, and that's really what I'm concerned about. Zig's syntax, speed and lack of an insane community like Rust's are all nice, but I don't want to put time into learning it if it's going to be mostly obsolete down the line due to a lack of support.
+--- 93155011
+>>93154966
+>how do you discern that?
+I use a checklist based on my usecase and experience. Then I check if there is either a feature or a library available to do the heavylifting required for <complicated subtask X> which I need to be productive using the new language. Then I check the list of features available and try to figure out how that would impact my productivity.
+If enough checkboxes are ticked, I write a test program, but there are too many memelangs around to do that every time with every language, which is why the checklist is important.
+When it comes to zig, it has nearly no checkboxes ticked at all, so it's very far from being on my radar for languages to actually write test code to evaluate for further use.
+--- 93155066
+>>93154977
+programming langs are trivial to learn if you already know one or two well. And learning a new one can only be a good thing, regardless if it's irrelevant or not in X years. 
+And in zig's case, it's a tiny language by design. Don't let commitment/opportunity cost paralysis stifle you. Learn more langs, more often.
+--- 93155152
+>>93155066
+Learning languages in the same style and paradigm as ones you know is purely a waste of time. In the same time you could have learned the ins and outs of a popular library for your language of choice and domain, not only making you more employable and more capable in your language, but also more knowledgeable in an employable way.
+--- 93155159
+>>93154889
+Every language speaks C, and Zig is very concerned with speaking C effortlessly, that's why it embeds clang. You don't actually lose anything.
+--- 93155181
+>>93155159
+Wrong and irrelevant. Tells me a lot about zig when that's the kind of people that advertise it.
+--- 93155193
+>>93155152
+by that thinking, just don't even look at other langs at all then.
+--- 93155214
+as far as libraries go*, anyway.
+
+I guess tools is another thing but Zig already does some interesting things there. Default ubsan and asan, builtin stack traces, some call tracing and profiling tools.
+
+>>93155181
+C is literally the only portable ABI. Nothing else matters.
+--- 93155253
+>>93155159
+>Every language speaks C
+no
+>Zig is very concerned with speaking C effortlessly
+using a half-baked toolchain is not effortless
+--- 93155266
+>>93155193
+Looking takes little time and is worth doing to keep up with what's happening in language development if, like me, you have interests in this (if you don't, I agree: it is still a waste of time).
+However, going beyond that level can only be justified when you can see enough from that language that learning it can be beneficial. This includes if it's a wild paradigm that you can't just emulate with a library available in your language (again, only if you care about those things), or if it has most of the scaffolds you need for your applications PLUS some extra advantage on top.
+This is why despite the tranny memes I tried looked at, and then tried, rust, even though in the end I abandoned it as being sub-optimal for my use cases, and why, while I have been keeping an eye out for zig, I am increasingly less interested in it over time (but by comparison, I already have 0 interest in nim, crystal, beef or hare for example).
+--- 93155278
+>>93155214
+C is not an ABI and is not portable as an ABI.
+I can't write a python script and execute it from opendylan without hacks.
+--- 93155954
+>-h and --help both work because we print help on encountering any garbage switches by default
+are you fully ganoo compliant anon?
+--- 93156006
+Why do Rustfags all use cuck licenses on their crates? It’s one of my main reasons for not wanting to engage with the language. I refuse to let my code be used by kikes for profit and don’t want to be pestered by zealots for using a real license.
+--- 93156119
+>>93156006
+Because they're being paid to use this license. Don't you think it's weird there's virtually no rust software that does something new, it's all just "rewrite it in rust" kind of efforts? And the software being supplanted was GPL and now it's MIT or BSD? It's unironically a corporate move to try to kill FOSS because they don't like having to deal with the licenses and don't want to have to give back.
+--- 93156198
+>>93156006
+what "your code"?
+--- 93156224
+>>93156006
+it's a monkey-see-do cult
+--- 93156414
+On job openings, ehy do I so often see " .NET Core / ASP.NET MVC" listed in EXACTLY that way? Aren't they entirely separate things? .NET Core in a runtime, ASP.NET is a framework for web apps, and MVC is a framework for GUIs. Am I retarded?
+--- 93156467
+>>93156414
+Because HR roasties are dumber than bricks.
+--- 93156765
+im a microservice developer, am I a real programmer?
+--- 93156828
+>>93156765
+Of course not.
+>>>/g/wdg/
+--- 93156837
+>>93156828
+b-but i write java...
+--- 93156877
+>>93156837
+Did I stutter?
+--- 93156958
+>>93156765
+Not unless you're a Scottsman.
+--- 93157398
+Any good books from Amazon to learn c++ or lua?

g/93149095.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,105 @@
+-----
+--- 93149095
+>muh DLSS
+>muh Raytracing
+>Just pay us $800 goy for an obsolete dead on arrival card with gimped vram!
+
+No thanks, I think I'll just stick with my $270 6700XT reference that I got off ebay and works flawlessly, and until AMD gets to their senses and offers RDNA4, 4090ti tier performance for 600$, I think I just won't upgrade, So mote it be. It might be 2-3 years but I'm comfy. I will never buy njudea
+
+Simple as.
+--- 93149275
+bought 3090 used for 650 bucks on ebay. been workin fine for months. people are retarded and buy new cards, that's their problem
+--- 93150371
+>buying overpriced shit
+>for gaymes
+Are you 12?
+--- 93150413
+>>93149275
+>he games on used mining cards
+NGMI
+>it works fine
+lol
+lmao
+--- 93150430
+>>93149095 (OP)
+>for an h100
+just fucking end this miserable economy
+--- 93150444
+>>93150430
+>30k was filtered from my post for some reason.
+--- 93150507
+>muh gaymes
+I'll buy an AyyMD card when it actuall useful features like CUDA and tensor cores
+--- 93150719
+>>93149095 (OP)
+Works on my machine, sage
+--- 93150725
+>>93150413
+>refuses to elaborate
+>>93150507
+Kinda this? Im getting a card soon mostly to run muh AI better
+--- 93151354
+>>93150413
+yes i do and yes it does. seethe more.
+--- 93151522
+>>93149095 (OP)
+I'll give AMD a chance. If they don't fuck up the 7600xt I'm buying one. If they do I'll buy a used 1660 or a 980ti as a stopgap until the 5000 or 6000 series gets released.
+--- 93151537
+>>93150413
+I do too, in 2018 I was buying used mining rx 480s for dirt cheap and just picked up a used Vega 56 for $75.
+--- 93151700
+>>93151522
+It's an 8gb card. It's dead in the water.
+Unless you only want to play older games, in which case, you'd be better off just buying something second hand.
+--- 93151760
+>>93151522
+>used 1660
+that's like $250 on Amazon brand new
+--- 93151778
+>>93151760
+Yeah and a used 980ti is sub 100 euros and a used 1660 is like 105-120 euros.
+--- 93152032
+>>93150413
+>running 24/7 undervolted at constant thermals in some warehouse in open rack
+vs
+>cumstained gaymer cellar, overclocked, thermally tortured by cycling for 12 hours
+yeah i wonder which is better, jensen
+not donating your coompany, m8
+--- 93152488
+>>93150413
+I bought a heavily mined 1080ti back in 2020, and it still works to this day.
+--- 93152544
+>buying a gpu for video games
+
+ngmi, either use a gpu for productivity (rendering, ML, etc) or GTFO
+--- 93154793
+>>93152032
+>Power washed after left to gather dust for years in that warehouse
+>Not properly dried and literally explodes when used again
+--- 93155150
+>>93154793
+>get full refund due to ebay buyer protection
+>try again and get a working card
+>sell the broken card as parts for some extra cash
+--- 93155169
+>>93150507
+>actuall useful features like CUDA and tensor cores
+why would I do any work on my own computer? I have my company pay for that
+--- 93155187
+>>93155169
+He doesn't do real work with his PC, he just wants to make stable diffusion porn
+--- 93155209
+>>93155187
+That's valid
+--- 93155252
+>>93151778
+>euros
+what the fuck is that?
+--- 93155595
+>>93149095 (OP)
+I use DLSS Quality even when I don't have to at 4k because of how good it makes the image look.
+Jaggies and shimmering are eliminated while sharpness is retained, its like fucking magic.
+--- 93155773
+>if it's not nvidia then i won't buy it
+Simple as
+i think it's sort of like windows vs loonix, i always find my way back to windows one way or another

g/93149160.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,64 @@
+-----
+--- 93149160
+>be Microsoft 
+>try to buy Activision for 68 billion USD 
+>get told no by the UK 
+>seethe so bad you end-of-life the one replacement to Win7 people had 
+
+I literally do not understand what the driving market forces are anymore
+--- 93149196
+>>93149160 (OP)
+This post is the definition of rent-free. Did you honestly expect windows 10 to have a longer lifecycle than the other versions?
+--- 93149246
+>retards considering W10 as a W7 replacement
+wtf
+--- 93149260
+>>93149196
+honestly it's surprising that it outlived Win7 but I just really hate 11. Even after using it daily in computer offices it keeps leaving a bad taste in my mouth. 
+
+It's basically a motel whore. Decent, but im not taking it home.
+--- 93149703
+>>93149160 (OP)
+A tablet/phone operating system is not a replacement for a desktop one.
+--- 93149731
+>>93149196
+Poor/useless people are simply like that. Everything is a conspiracy against them.
+--- 93150128
+>>93149260
+This describes my feelings. I use it at work but linux at home. It feels fucking dirty. You know in your heart everything you do on W11 is tracked and connected to you and deep down you know all those patches and reg fixes you ran to block telemetry and other bullshit don't work.
+
+You never feel safe on W11 and that's because your autonomy over basic shit is overridden, take the fucking start menu as an example, updates and other shit is the icing on the top.
+--- 93150219
+If you're still using 7, you may as well ride out the Firefox ESR and 0Patch release cycles and start fresh with Windows 12.
+--- 93150835
+>>93150128
+Im just waiting until they make a crack for win11 that negates the tpm requirement
+--- 93152101
+>>93150835
+That's been around since day 0. I installed it on a BIOS machine without TPM.
+--- 93152576
+>>93149160 (OP)
+windows operating system usually get supported around 10 years
+we knew for years that win10 will be supported until 2025
+--- 93154211
+>>93149160 (OP)
+Why can’t we just keep using it after it’s not supported?
+--- 93154943
+>>93149160 (OP)
+IoT is going to 2032, and IoT ESU is going to 2037. That's 14 fucking years from now.
+--- 93155578
+>>93154211
+I hope we can but im lowkey scared that they'll stealthily start bricking shit like its Apple
+--- 93155605
+>>93149160 (OP)
+>get told no by the UK
+Which of those two companies is incorporated in the UK
+When did they get a fucking say in anything
+--- 93155857
+>>93149731
+>grooming you to throw away perfectly functional objects and buy new ones literally is a conspiracy against poor people
+
+look up what generational wealth is. the middle class has been tricked into believing collecting beaning babies and funco pops is the same as collecting gold, silver, and antiques like the richfags do. Just throw everything in the garbage and reset your material acquistion progress on a regular basis. Surely starting over again and again and again is the path to wealth and power! You fucking retard.
+--- 93155926
+>>93155605
+smartest /v/ crossboarder

g/93149385.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,1077 @@
+-----
+--- 93149385
+https://drewdevault.com/2023/05/01/2023-05-01-Burnout.html
+What the fuck happened
+Which one of you did this?
+--- 93149410
+>>93149385 (OP)
+Woke people are weak
+More news at 11
+--- 93149434
+If he'd been a gun owner he could have defended himself
+Instead he rolled over and died
+--- 93149436
+>>93149385 (OP)
+It was all those fucking hare threads.
+--- 93149444
+>>93149385 (OP)
+this guy is so fucking cringe
+--- 93149467
+>>93149385 (OP)
+Nobody cares OP. Maybe you should join him and fuck off.
+--- 93149484
+>>93149385 (OP)
+He has always been cringe, but he really turned it up to 11 this past month or so. He is probably just trying to impress some woke roastie.
+--- 93149488
+>>93149436
+There was one per day at MOST and also I thought that anti-hare fags believed that Drew himself made those?
+--- 93149510
+>>93149385 (OP)
+The needle on my give-a-shit-o-meter refuses to move.
+--- 93149554
+>>93149488
+>I thought that anti-hare fags believed that Drew himself made those?
+He did, that's why he's so worn out from it.
+--- 93149561
+>>93149554
+Oh
+--- 93149579
+>>93149385 (OP)
+Get woke go broke.
+--- 93149605
+>>93149385 (OP)
+who is this and why should I care
+--- 93149607
+>>93149579
+Rather, go woke and have shit stolen from you by anti woke sjws
+--- 93149619
+>>93149385 (OP)
+What a surprise if you surround yourself with faggots you're going to deal with faggot problems. A lot of tranny lovers and LGBT+ allies are going to discover that making friends with mentally ill people is going to fuck you over long term. You can't be friends with emotional vampires that blame the world for their problems. And at the end of the day, people like Drew are just as abusive and will fuck you over like the best of them like the people they love to bitch about.
+--- 93149642
+>>93149385 (OP)
+context
+--- 93149687
+>>93149385 (OP)
+who is this person and why should i care? at least provide some context
+--- 93149746
+>>93149619
+>You can't be friends with emotional vampires that blame the world for their problems. 
+I used to have /pol/ack friends (one irl) and literally all they did every day was whine about how jews and blacks made them miserable, even though they lived in the sticks.
+--- 93149766
+>>93149642
+>>93149687
+Drew Devault is one of the best programmers on the planet now and he works on many open source projects at once, such as:
+>SourceHut: Distributed git web frontend that is very light weight but super powerful as well.
+>Hare: A low level, C like programming language suitable for systems programming. Excells at small binary sizes
+>Ares (Helios, Mercury): A new modern operating system which uses capabilities and is inspired by SeL4 and Plan9
+>Wlroots: A library for wayland which makes it a lot easier to write a wayland compositior and aims to standardise them.
+>Sway: Like i3-gaps but for wayland
+>rc: A redesign of Plan9 shell, written in Hare
+>himitsu: A password manager
+...
+And a lot more
+--- 93149801
+>>93149746
+Yeah I would make it as broad as possible, I wouldn't be friends with people who blame da juice either. People who have an external locus of control are bad friends and one day you'll end up in their crosshairs for being why their life sucks especially in the case where you start getting your shit together (and they have to realize they're being left behind).
+--- 93149830
+>>93149766
+Literally never heard of any of those projects before.
+--- 93149859
+>>93149830
+See https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn for more
+--- 93149864
+>>93149766
+>wayland
+so a faggot then, I see
+--- 93149875
+>>93149766
+>Drew Devault is one of the best programmers on the planet now
+anon asked for a point of reference not your drooling boner
+--- 93149920
+>>93149875
+He is literally working on an operating system, a git web frontend, a programming language and a huge library ALL AT ONCE and mostly by himself
+--- 93149937
+>>93149920
+>and mostly by himself
+so he's a slightly more lucid Terry
+--- 93149960
+>>93149937
+Yeah, but Terry was already really good
+--- 93149978
+>>93149766
+>one of the best programmers on the planet now
+so how come i never heard of any of this shit he made?
+--- 93150026
+>>93149960
+People like to jerk off developers who write their own OSes but 30 years ago this was a required CS exercise. What we don't seem to get are any new features or improvements in performance/security, suggesting that unless you're serving a specific need for embedded systems this is masturbatory at best. It's reinventing the wheel, not rethinking the concept.
+--- 93150030
+>>93149978
+you must not visit /g/ very often, sway is pretty popular here
+--- 93150039
+>drew resigned before rms
+--- 93150139
+>>93149619
+>A lot of tranny lovers and LGBT+ allies
+I saw his previous blog post fellating that trans mac driver dev Alyssa, but other than that did I miss something? Has Drew gone full woke? Maybe he will now take trannypill after his latest break-up?
+--- 93150160
+>>93149978
+> sourcehut
+another foss git repo backend
+> helios
+kernel
+> ares
+OS to make helios useful
+> himitsu
+yet another pw manager just as we're transitioning away from passwords
+> hare
+programming language no one asked for
+> basic internet utilities with bindings to the above 
+okay
+Look, this is a lot of work for one person to do and that's cool I guess, but this is arguably all for himself 
+>>93150030
+>sway is pretty popular here
+WAYLAND isn't even popular here and without it sway is immaterial
+--- 93150203
+If your corpus is things you've written for yourself and not contributing to other FOSS projects you might have a cadre of easily impressed beta orbiters but the rest of us are going to suspect you're an unstable schizo largely due to our experience with Terry.
+Also, having a name like an Ace Attorney villain doesn't help.
+--- 93150238
+>>93149385 (OP)
+>Which one of you did this?
+>bad nasty chan people hurt precious cinnamon roll
+Son, we're largely indifferent to this person because most of what he does is outside anything we use. Are you being ironic or do you genuinely believe /g/ runs around harassing people when we could be switching Linux distros for the fifth time this week?
+--- 93150290
+>>93149920
+>He is literally working on an operating system, a git web frontend, a programming language and a huge library ALL AT ONCE
+Well, not at the moment he isn't
+--- 93150302
+>wlroots is now dead
+serves you right waytards
+x11chads keep winning
+--- 93150341
+>>93150302
+He handed off wlroots development ages ago.
+Same with sway.
+--- 93150391
+>>93150139
+He called for RMS to be removed and went on the usual muh diversity spiel.
+--- 93150397
+If you open a dictionary definition of wasted potential there is a picture of a Drew next to it. The only good thing he did was getting things moving in Wayland ecosystem (not just sway, but Wayland protocol extension proposals). After that he just kept making new pet projects and offloading them to other people after he got bored with them. The only reason why he kept working on SourceHut is because it pays his bills so he can autistically work on his worthless pet projects.
+
+If he hadn't had an ego the size of Mount Everest, he could had actually made a difference in FOSS.
+--- 93150419
+>>93150302
+>last commit a couple of days ago
+?????
+https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wlroots/wlroots/-/commits/master
+--- 93150436
+>Dependable Drew, an ear to listen, a shoulder to cry on, always knowing the right words to say, ready to help and proud to be there for his friends. Friends who, amidst these crises, are struggling to be there for him.
+This is so sad. Drew, if you are reading this, know that 4chan will always be here for you :)
+--- 93150499
+So cringe. What a faggot.
+--- 93150551
+>>93149385 (OP)
+--- 93150757
+>>93150436
+I can't believe Drew managed to end up in the friend friendzone.
+--- 93150903
+>>93150436
+If anyone else wrote that it would be considered sarcasm
+--- 93150930
+>>93149385 (OP)
+normal person
+>i hate my job
+arrogant 117 IQ codenigger who thinks he's the smartest person in every room
+>gay ass 20 paragraph blogpost
+--- 93150978
+>>93150930
+The smarter you are, the more you can say
+--- 93150986
+Went woke and went broke
+It is funny that he's so desperate for approval that he keeps doubling down on woke garbage but is still losing friends anyways. It's weird that a guy who is smart enough to make decent software can't figure out that he's playing a lose/lose game and the only way to win is to stop.
+--- 93150998
+>>93150436
+Truest truth, nobody needs anything more, best frendos are over here in 4chan.
+
+We love you Drew
+--- 93151050
+>>93149920
+>He is literally working on
+not from the sound of the op
+--- 93151068
+>>93149385 (OP)
+Written like a slimy Jew.
+--- 93151090
+>>93151068
+>only da jooz have feelings
+bro ...
+--- 93151131
+What a heartfelt, and yet, inauthentic message. Drew, if you're reading this, stop trying to be something you're not to please people you can't. Yeah yeah, 4chan trolls, whatever. Be honest with *yourself* and see that you choose your actions because you're afraid to be alone, and not because they're what you really believe in.
+Fag.
+--- 93151200
+Why does the world need to hear some officebody’s purple prose?
+--- 93151213
+>>93151200
+this comment is so insensitive. wow
+--- 93151288
+>>93149385 (OP)
+Feelings are not real they are just a construct of your brain, you can force yourself to be happy all the time it's simple.
+--- 93151333
+>>93151288
+I will NOT take my pills.
+--- 93151353
+>>93151333
+You don't need pills, you need disciple and self control.
+--- 93151393
+>>93151353
+And i will NOT meditate either.
+--- 93151449
+>>93151393
+You don't need to meditate.
+--- 93151535
+>>93151288
+your brain is not real it's just a construct of your feelings
+--- 93151557
+>>93151535
+My brain is physical.
+--- 93151571
+>>93151557
+physics is a construct.
+--- 93151572
+>>93149385 (OP)
+Why are you guys keep opening hourly threads about someone really not "notable"?
+--- 93151577
+>>93151571
+no, physical models are constructs. physics is the only thing that truly concretely is
+--- 93151581
+>>93151571
+A construct of reality.
+--- 93151587
+>>93151572
+>the most notable active programmer in open source industry is not notable
+--- 93151596
+>>93151587
+>notable active programmer in open source industry
+He doesn't work on any relevant projects.
+--- 93151602
+>>93151581
+"constructs of reality" are a construct
+--- 93151616
+>>93151602
+Everything is a construct you are the master over your own reality.
+--- 93151622
+Are hotdogs a type of hamburger?
+--- 93151624
+>>93149766
+>Drew Devault is one of the best programmers on the planet now
+huh?
+>SourceHut
+who cares? people just use github
+>Hare
+nobody uses
+> Ares
+nobody uses
+>Wlroots
+not significant + gayland
+>Sway
+tiling wm autism
+>rc
+who cares
+>himitsu
+again, who cares
+
+It sounds he is just some hobbyist making irrelevant stuff, the only thing i've heard in this post is wlroots and sway. Ah yes, "ThE BeST ProGrAmMeR oN ThE pLaNeT"
+--- 93151635
+>>93151577
+what's the cause of the big bang?
+--- 93151646
+>>93151587
+hello drew
+--- 93151659
+>>93151635
+>believing in the BBC gangbang
+did you see it for yourself, or are you just trusting scientific hypothesis that it exists?
+--- 93151671
+>>93151624
+>I am a codelet and filtered by tiling wms, therefore all these projects are mere hobbies
+--- 93151676
+>>93151659
+what's the cause of physics
+--- 93151681
+>>93151624
+>>SourceHut
+>who cares? people just use github
+people here
+>>Hare
+>nobody uses
+daily thread
+>>Wlroots
+>not significant + gayland
+Xoid detected
+>>Sway
+>tiling wm autism
+we're on an autism website
+
+working...
+working...
+working...
+DONE!
+Detection Result: Reddit Tourist
+--- 93151688
+>>93151676
+causes are a human construct
+--- 93151689
+>>93151671
+>therefore all these projects are mere hobbies
+Yes, and what? They are literally all mere hobbies that won't be used in any real-world scenario, rather than some hobbyist ricing their desktop, lmao.
+--- 93151702
+>>93151688
+believing causes are human construct is a human construct
+--- 93151709
+>>93151681
+>people here
+people in /g/ doesn't mean anything
+--- 93151723
+>>93151689
+that's what they said about QDOS and the Altair 8080. Hobby computers, toy operating systems...
+And they were right, Linux+Sway is where it's at. Just one more year for that year of the Linux desktop
+>>93151702
+that's the spirit
+>>93151709
+it means something on /g/
+--- 93151732
+>>93151681
+>working...
+>working...
+>working...
+>DONE!
+jesus christ kill yourself
+--- 93151734
+>>93151681
+a seething Drew posted that
+--- 93151738
+Hilarious how Drew browses /g/ and pretends that he's some fan of him defending any criticism towards himself LMAO.
+--- 93151753
+>>93151732
+wowza, really struck a nerve huh
+--- 93151766
+>>93151723
+ehm, the world is running on Linux and C, not ares, or hare, or whatever. You're moving the goalpost towards Sway.
+--- 93151777
+>>93151738
+There is literally no proof that drew does this.
+What the fuck is wroing with you? meds meds
+MEDS
+--- 93151790
+>>93151777
+Sup drew. Thank you for sway.
+--- 93151828
+>>93151790
+Not Drew, but if you wish to thank Drew, send an email to [email protected], he will be happy to read it
+--- 93151842
+>>93151828
+>Not Drew
+Please dox yourself to prove it. It's the only way to be sure
+--- 93151858
+THIS IS THE SECOND TIME ALREADY
+https://drewdevault.com/2022/05/30/bleh.html
+I believe that this is a conspiracy by the proprietary software lobbyists to silence Drew.
+--- 93151860
+>>93151828
+>Not Drew
+selfie with timestamp
+--- 93151880
+>>93151860
+>>93151842
+>just dox urself bro
+lmao no. how old are you, 12?
+--- 93151896
+>>93149920
+>80 contributors
+>mostly by himself
+Lol
+suck dick harder
+--- 93151898
+>>93151777
+--- 93151909
+BLACKED
+--- 93151916
+>>93150160
+>but this is arguably all for himself
+Also no more or more complicated than what the average /dpt/ poster has done.
+--- 93151923
+>>93151880
+>>93151898
+apparently hairline with timestamp will do
+--- 93151942
+>>93151738
+This. Especially since he never lurks so he sticks out like a sore thumb.
+--- 93151944
+>>93151916
+Are you retarded? When has /dpt/ produced more than fizzbuzz
+--- 93151951
+>>93151944
+GPT was started in dpt newfag
+--- 93151961
+>>93151880
+No, I'm no longer breedable-aged unfortunately.
+--- 93151965
+>>93151777
+Watch his screencasts. These anime wallpapers, you know he's here.
+--- 93151966
+>>93151944
+Have you tried living somewhere other than the deepest cranny up your anus?
+--- 93151983
+>>93151965
+drew really does use anime wallpaperu? lol
+--- 93152050
+>>93151777
+https://spacepub.space/w/m3iUKa161NwaoRrioFbLJU
+--- 93152075
+>>93152050
+Oh fuck, is that real? Now I feel genuine remorse. well, not very much, but a tiny bit anyways
+--- 93152123
+>>93151942
+In all seriousness, he's not a moron. He's very intelligent on top of obviously being charismatic, successful, and well-respected, not to mention hard-working and unfathomably wise.
+No other programmer in history has ever been as open source as Drew DeVault.
+--- 93152145
+>>93149410
+just like poltards, only they don't shoot out a school when their feelings are hurt
+--- 93152153
+>>93152123
+kek
+--- 93152155
+>>93152050
+>/a/
+>/u/
+>/c/
+what a fag
+--- 93152163
+>>93152050
+meh
+im sure he's "reformed" now
+>toxic masculinity
+>we need to replace rms with a goirl minority
+what's so fucking sad is that i never even minded tumblrites and their gay little platitudes, i just find it insufferable watching someone be dishonest with themselves this hard just because it's hard to get pussy and friends. drew, i really hope you're in this thread, because i do want you to know: those fags you're clout-chasing with will hate you infinitely the moment you fuck up. ive literally been in this position. stop lying to yourself for the love of god, it's a waste of life, you're not going to stop being miserable, it doesn't work
+--- 93152168
+>>93152050
+>/c/
+arguably more embarrassing than /g/
+don't worry Drew, we love you anyway
+--- 93152171
+>>93152050
+lmao
+--- 93152200
+>>93152163
+You know I don't think he needs to involve himself more in poltard screeching, guy probably just needs a holiday.
+--- 93152225
+>>93149385 (OP)
+pretty sure he said something similar last year guy is a nut case unsurprising if you are surrounded by modern troons. Also 
+> Berlin
+yeah should have kept his guard up there is a reason why the Dönner there can be as cheap as 2.5€ in times of high inflation.
+--- 93152257
+>>93152225
+>should have kept his guard up
+given the concentration of nignogs in that part of Europe, it was inevitable something would be stolen
+--- 93152282
+>>93151966
+Lmao ESL pajeet
+--- 93152284
+>>93152200
+no, he needs to involve himself with neither /pol/tards nor tumblrites. it's hard nowadays because people like (you) kind of insinuate that these are the only two options, but it's not true. it is absolutely worth it to cut out a LOT of people in your life to instead get a few quality friends who aren't on one of those retarded brain-terminating treadmills
+--- 93152319
+>>93151944
+/dpt/ says you should go back to >>>/u/
+--- 93152322
+>>93152050
+WHAT THE FUCK
+--- 93152339
+>>93152322
+I mean saying WHAT THE FUCK when you are posting here yourself is not very smart.
+--- 93152341
+>>93152257
+not nignogs its the sandnigger and pakis nignogs are few last time I checked and stick to the ((beach)). Though if you ever feel lonely go there people are stupid in Berlin.
+> but there is no difference
+yes there is you haven't met enough yet. If you want nignogs there are other places in Germany though Paris has us all beat.
+--- 93152353
+>>93152319
+>goes to /u/ for first time in n years
+Honestly a lot of it looks pretty good, idk what the issue is.
+guess i'd prefer browsing porn on /b/ because cunny allowed but, doesn't look too bad desu
+why hate? is it just a >muh faggots thing?
+--- 93152375
+>>93152050
+WTF DREW IS ACTUALLY /OURGUY/ AND HARE THREADS ARE ACTUALLY MADE BY DREW
+--- 93152393
+>>93152375
+All shitposting aside drew really could've been /ourguy/
+though the concentration of faggot Xoid subhumans on this board has probably made it unbrowsable for anyone who actually knows anything about the linux graphics stack and ecosystem
+--- 93152403
+>>93149385 (OP)
+This is what stealing does to people. Don't steal. It's not just a material loss. It hurts.
+--- 93152484
+>>93152393
+You don't fit in, drew. You never do. Lurk moar.
+--- 93152492
+>>93152403
+It makes them into interminable faggots spewing purple prose?
+--- 93152526
+>>93152484
+Hello, yes, it is me, Drew DeVault. you want me to "Fit In"? Here, let me give it a shot: People who still use Xorg are fat tranny niggers
+>M-muh unix philosoph-ACK!
+Does that do it for you? Huh? Are you fucking happy?
+--- 93152560
+>>93149385 (OP)
+How does your backpack get stolen? 
+But I feel his vibe, Ive been emotionally checked out and stressed for about 4mo now after being laid off. I might be depressed because I just dont feel that happy or motivated. I started working out at the gym this week and I think that helps alittle. All of this effects my ability to code and do cool tech projects. Maybe its the lack of social interactions mixed with lack of female attention (self esteem issues that get thrown on a roller coaster if a girl is interested in me romantically/sexually). I dont have the answers but this guy should talk to a friend, but judging from other anons he sounds like a fag too
+--- 93152563
+>>93152526
+fuck off Drew
+--- 93152573
+>>93152560
+He might have left it at a luggage rack on the train. In Berlin in particular people run through the trains and just take whatever looks valuable.
+--- 93152596
+Drew DeVault is a psyop. He’s a literal “who” with no job that somehow has the funds to work on all of these projects that no one will ever use. I don’t know what the goal with drew is, but he’s definitely a fed plant.
+--- 93152612
+>>93152492
+Sometimes.
+--- 93152634
+>>93152573
+They can do that in burgerland too in any major city. I'd never let it out of my sight, which I dont because my backpack is worth way more (holds crypto, while encrypted and backed up at home still valuable). Our trains are more cozy though because nobody really uses amtrak so a worker will get your shit off and not some thief.
+--- 93152635
+>>93149766
+Despite being crince, Drew Devault is admittedly a skilled programmer.
+
+It's really a shame that he chose to waste his talents on Wayland.
+--- 93152650
+>>93152596
+He's running his code hosting github clone as a business.
+--- 93152669
+>>93152650
+>He's running his code hosting github clone as a business.
+Nobody is paying for that.
+(((they))) really are not sending their best.
+--- 93152753
+>>93152650
+He only has like 10 users, and probably half at most are paying.
+--- 93152760
+>>93152669
+lol i'm paying for it but i don't even use it, i just post everything to github
+i almost cancelled when he started spewing woke shit, but to be honest i'm too lazy and it's too cheap
+--- 93152762
+>>93152635
+He's a completely mediocre programmer, not a smidgen beyond but, to be fair, he is also not a hair below that level, i.e. it's not like he's outright incompetent as the average pajeet is or whatever.
+--- 93152765
+>>93149385 (OP)
+Misery loves company.
+--- 93152808
+>>93152635
+>waste
+>on Wayland
+reminder that outside of /g/ the idea that Wayland is a waste of time has basically no support. this is the reason why when anyone has to link anti-wayland stuff its like the same 3 things lol
+--- 93152814
+>>93152560
+most of us techfags are lonely if you makes you feel any better, we're too autistic for normal social interaction or romance.
+--- 93152898
+>>93152814
+I've been a professional software developer for six years. Most of my coworkers had relationships or were married with children.
+--- 93152905
+>>93152760
+Why do you continue to fund his woke lifestyle?
+--- 93152950
+>>93152898
+Same. Anyone above ~25 is "taken" one way or the other, and a lot of people below that, too.
+However that's a relatively new phenomenon caused by HR roasties automatically trashing the resume of any non-normalfag, etc. i.e. that nowadays social skills trump all, including technical skills. Back in the 80's and 90's it wasn't even remotely like that and about half were permavirgin types.
+--- 93152991
+>>93152898
+working in tech is not the same as being a techfag, most of them are normalfags only in it for the money. actual aspies who write GPU drivers and kernel code don't get laid because they're aspie or trans.
+--- 93153009
+>>93152905
+yeah im not renewing lol
+sorry drew, go woke go broke.
+--- 93153022
+>>93152991
+>actual aspies who write GPU drivers and kernel code don't get laid because they're aspie or trans.
+Believe it or not, most GPU driver developers are not weebs with screeching voices and 3D anime girl avatars but just random dudes.
+
+They just don't stream themselves.
+--- 93153033
+>>93152950
+Honestly, and i mean this genuinely, but you are going to need to get good. If you're having to deal with HR roasties to get hired, you already lost. You need referrals from above. Social skills are not necessary.
+--- 93153078
+>>93153033
+>You need referrals from above.
+> Social skills are not necessary.
+Choose one, and no more than one.
+Dumb tranny.
+--- 93153087
+>>93153022
+>just random dudes
+yeah, asian dudes who substitute IRL romance with anime
+--- 93153128
+>>93153078
+look dude, you do NOT need social skills to get referrals from above, you know this.
+don't pretend like you haven't been at jobs and thought "how the fuck did that faggot get hired"
+well, i'm that faggot, and if you want to make any decent money in this industry, you better start getting some adderall because you need to be that faggot too
+>tranny
+nigger
+--- 93153139
+>>93153087
+>asian dudes who substitute IRL romance with anime
+I just want to draw attention to the fact that this man is so jealous of anime pfp guys that get more hoes than him that he has to make shit like this up to cope
+--- 93153147
+>>93153128
+Thanks for proving you are 12 years old, however you must be 18 or older to browse this site. Come back in 6, youngster.
+--- 93153175
+>>93149920
+I thought he wasn't working on sway and wlroots? And mostly focusing on SH
+--- 93153187
+>>93152484
+>>93152563
+Drew browses /a/
+He is literally an oldfag
+--- 93153193
+>>93153139
+I have no idea what you're talking about. Have you ever read the LKML? Half the dudes are called Xiang Ma.
+--- 93153201
+>>93153147
+>>93153193
+k lets see yours
+no seriously, go ahead
+--- 93153219
+>>93153193
+Have you ever seen a CS class? Filter out the good morning sirs who are no good and what are you left with?
+--- 93153227
+>>93149385 (OP)
+I enjoy his blog
+--- 93153228
+>>93153201
+>bragging about 17k
+kek oh no this has to be bait
+--- 93153238
+>>93152762
+Have you seen how fast he types and thinks? You should watch some coding livestreams of his.
+--- 93153259
+>>93153009
+I will pay for it instead then :)
+--- 93153277
+>>93153238
+I'm not the guy you are replying to, but he's pretty normal. I mean he's good but, still, normal. I'm a nobody and I'm as fast.
+
+What sets him apart is his ambition and patience to keep working on and finishing lots of different projects.
+--- 93153291
+>>93153228
+yeah in checking, do you really not have any savings?
+what's next, do we need to move on to high yield savings, money market? let's see yours. im interested, lets go
+--- 93153311
+>>93153291
+>chase
+this has to be bait
+--- 93153325
+>>93153291
+considering you live in the US, that's still nothing
+I can tell you're a financial retard by keeping it in Chase, but the pass was enough to tell me that
+--- 93153330
+>>93153311
+give me a better card than sapphire and ill fucking switch idgaf about banking
+--- 93153331
+>>93153291
+What the fuck are you trying to prove? Also why aren't you buying stocks?
+--- 93153346
+>>93153331
+I already have 4 pairs of socks, why do I need more?
+--- 93153365
+>>93153325
+i don't live in nyc or sf, so it's not actually that bad
+>>93153331
+>What the fuck are you trying to prove?
+that i'm not 12 and i know what the fuck i'm talking about when it comes to working in this faggot industry
+most nocoders here genuinely won't believe it unless you do the retard douche thing, so i did it
+>Also why aren't you buying stocks?
+dont want to keep all of my money in the market, especially not right now
+i've already got way too much stock and i haven't even finished selling my stocks from last employer
+i'm not logging into schwab for this shit
+--- 93153462
+>>93153238
+I have, he types and thinks on the slow side of average.
+--- 93153467
+So... how about that Drew DeVault guy
+--- 93153473
+>>93153365
+>12 years old trust fund kiddie trying to prove he's not 12 by proving he's a trust fund kiddie
+wow, that sure showed us
+Come back when you're 18+, kiddo.
+--- 93153476
+>>93153462
+>10 WPS is slow
+what the fuck? It's over for me
+--- 93153484
+>>93153473
+12 year olds don't have Chase.com logins. Just take your L already, this thread is about drew not your fucking axe wound.
+--- 93153489
+>>93153277
+Even that's no different than average. The main difference is more his self-advertisement, most people do the same kind of things but don't live-stream about it.
+--- 93153511
+>>93153484
+Oof, the absolute depth of this self-own. Couldn't be me, kid!
+--- 93153604
+>>93153476
+Just for you I pulled up a random stream and counted his wpm. I did not count any pauses, obviously. He averaged 1.43 wps, which is 86 wpm. As I said, on the slow side of average.
+--- 93153627
+>>93153473
+i'm getting bored of this but i'll throw you one more for good measure :^)
+cheers poorfag, stay mad
+--- 93153653
+>>93153627
+It's hilarious that 12 years olds like you are so deluded about how real life works and thus can't stop posting self-owns like these.
+--- 93153660
+This thread is fucking wild man.
+--- 93153688
+>>93153653
+no you're right. i'm 12 and have 100,000 in savings and employee equity awards.
+
+that's not even a thing that makes any sense, but even if it did, how am i supposed to feel owned by literally getting everything handed to me for free? copium this hard isn't even safe for you, son
+--- 93153703
+>>93153660
+what is wild about it, mr. wilder?
+--- 93153721
+>>93152145
+Don't shoot up another school, tranny
+--- 93153733
+>>93153688
+Keep on posting your self-owns. It's funny how creative you can be in proving that you're 12.
+--- 93153739
+>>93153733
+no, i rest my case.
+--- 93153745
+>>93149746
+Sure you did, troon
+--- 93153758
+>>93153660
+it's hilarious lol
+--- 93153771
+>>93153739
+I accept your surrender.
+--- 93153782
+>>93153771
+>he thinks you're supposed to try to "win" on 4chan
+who's 12 again???
+--- 93153786
+>>93153604
+How do I increase my WPM?
+--- 93153792
+>>93153782
+Why yes, I'll take fries with that.
+--- 93153802
+>>93153604
+It's not a typing contest. He also has to think.
+--- 93153809
+>>93153792
+i take back what i said earlier
+with a sense of humor this cunning, i can see why social skills are a thing you're concerned about not having enough of
+--- 93153816
+>>93153786
+Simply speaking, through practice. Learn touch-typing, make sure not to break form as you type, and type moar (typing out posts on 4chan counts, but you can also do explicit exercises).
+--- 93153824
+Hackernews is sucking Drew’s duck as expected
+--- 93153839
+>>93153802
+The average wpm of a dev (who has to think while typing) is 95.
+Backpedal harder, drew.
+--- 93153841
+>>93153824
+Yeah man, those fucking losers, having empathy with someone suffering from overwork. Better call him a tranny or faggot like a true based chad right?
+--- 93153857
+>>93153841
+Maybe you wouldn't have a mental breakdown if you didn't keep asking for it by posting garbage like this on 4chan, drew.
+--- 93153868
+>>93153841
+Drew is a woke bald loser who has never published anything of significance
+--- 93153877
+>>93153824
+pics or it didn't happen
+--- 93153895
+>>93153868
+Let's see your open source projects anon
+--- 93153913
+>>93153868
+This.
+--- 93153921
+The more I see this shit unfold, the more I realize that Drew DeVault suffers from the exact same problem that byuu did, and, if someone doesn't do something, he'll end the same way, trying and failing to please everyone, no longer honest to himself, and ultimately a lolcow. Someone please do something.
+--- 93153937
+>>93153921
+What do you want us to do?
+--- 93153949
+>>93153921
+Nah I don't think so, byuu cares way less about attention that drew does. I mean yeah drew publishes a lot but he also has real friends.
+--- 93153970
+>>93153786
+play.typeracer.com
+--- 93153978
+>>93153949
+byuu WAS in the same boat a long time ago. He even had a boyfriend irl. just wait, if things keep progressing like this, it's all down from here :(
+--- 93154009
+trust-fund anon can I have 500 loonies to pay rent ^^
+--- 93154022
+>>93153970
+Ugh 47 WPM. That's horrible.
+And I have been programming for 5 years now
+--- 93154082
+>>93154022
+My WPM just keeps getting worse with time honestly, when the fuck do you type at 100 WPM when coding? I probably top out at like 70 WPM these days.
+--- 93154100
+>>93154022
+there's a bunch of good content on that site, if you're doing proper homerow touch-typing I think you can just practice a bunch to improve
+
+I average 90-100 but on a sunny day with a full moon I can hit 120 comfortably
+doesn't matter nearly as much in programming as deciding names for things tho
+--- 93154130
+>>93149385 (OP)
+> "allowed my productivity to wane as necessary"
+It sounds like this guy has never lived a life that wasn't about his career.
+--- 93154162
+>>93154130
+when you're sooper smart like drew beaknose you'll understand
+--- 93154185
+>>93153921
+I am doing something
+I'm making popcorn
+--- 93154195
+>>93153970
+Damn, I've improved a lot. I used to be around 85.
+--- 93154206
+>>93153895
+I never claimed to be someone notable the way Drew has
+--- 93154219
+>>93154185
+I'll get the butter.
+Not margarine, fuck that shit, i don't want to live any longer than i have to.
+>>93154130
+Honest question: what do you live your life for that's so much grander and more meaningful?
+--- 93154244
+>>93154195
+the >100wpm captcha test is fun
+--- 93154275
+>>93154219
+Margarine is carcinogenic. Butter is very healthy.
+--- 93154345
+>>93154275
+my house has asbestos and i work on it without a mask
+--- 93154375
+>>93154345
+Congratulations on being retarded.
+--- 93154380
+>>93154375
+thank you kind stranger
+--- 93154389
+>>93154345
+You're gonna get your wish soon enough then, well done.
+--- 93154397
+This thread is unironically fucking insane
+--- 93154409
+>>93154389
+probably but what's even funnier is i'm not even joking, i'm tempted to post a pic of exposed asbestos for the lulz but too lazy to get up, plus i have a cough today
+--- 93154413
+>>93154397
+Why?
+--- 93154431
+>>93154413
+We're currently on the "guy maybe literally dying of mesothelioma" arc as we speak, do I even need to explain more?
+--- 93154452
+>>93154409
+I believe you, m8, I'm just wondering why you're not doing something more expedient like locking yourself in the garage with your car turned on.
+--- 93154458
+>>93154431
+What? You absolutely do need to explain that
+--- 93154467
+>>93154409
+Just pray, anon! Pray to Cowboy Jesus! If you do it hard enough you will be IMMUNE TO BULLETS (and by extension, lead, and by extension, poison, and by extension, asbestos)
+--- 93154519
+Uhhhmmmm hare chads?
+--- 93154547
+>>93153291
+bro what the fuck are you doing. There is no reason to have this much liquid money
+--- 93154550
+>>93154519
+kekkekekeke
+This is the height of his intellect.
+--- 93154558
+ive been doing nothing but just watching this thread go by for like an hour in stunned silence
+--- 93154565
+>>93153745
+You will never be white, Rajesh.
+--- 93154570
+>>93154519
+fat bald loser
+--- 93154577
+>>93154458
+NTA but you are literally in the middle of it. You are making posts interspersed with the posts where it is unfolding.
+Why do we keep coming back to this fuck factory to be surrounded by people who can't read?
+--- 93154619
+>>93154547
+less than half of my assets are liquid and that's about as far as i'm willing to go in terms of risk
+--- 93154645
+>>93149385 (OP)
+Will this teach him to stop shilling for communism?
+--- 93154678
+>>93154619
+That's way too much. Liquid money is for regular expenditures and emergencies. I don't know your personal budget, but I highly doubt you're blowing through tens of thousands of dollars every month.
+--- 93154693
+>>93152050
+>drew is a /u/chad
+BASED
+--- 93154717
+>>93149385 (OP)
+lmao what a faggot go cry some more
+--- 93154854
+>>93154519
+Has anyone tried it yet?
+It can't possibly be real, right?
+right?
+--- 93154927
+>>93154645
+FOSS is not necessarily communism
+only retards think this
+--- 93154954
+>>93154927
+Im talking about how he was pushing for communism on the trannyverse
+--- 93154956
+>>93154854
+I'm getting 'no such host known' from a quick smtp test, and given that the post just got deleted, I assume it's real and he just brought it down.
+--- 93155031
+>>93154954
+When?
+--- 93155083
+>>93155031
+I remember going through his trannyverse account once and he had many posts about this. Lots of stupid allegories and strawman arguments too
+--- 93155113
+>>93149385 (OP)
+Finally, he'll stop spamming his "ctrl-f not found" threads.
+--- 93155130
+>>93155113
+Maybe he took a break to level up his advertising capabilities
+--- 93155134
+>>93155083
+i don't like drew but i'm guessing "communism" in this case is just banal euro liberalism
+--- 93155143
+if you're here drew redpill me on hare
+--- 93155156
+>>93155130
+I don't mind if spammers learn to pay hiroshimoot for advertisement like they're supposed to instead of constantly spamming. I use an adblocker anyway. The rules exist for a reason, even if most are never even followed by the tranny admins.
+--- 93155161
+>>93155143
+Not drew, but
+>>93104376 →
+>Did you know that Hare produces 10 times smaller binaries than C, while being almost as fast as C?
+Hare also supports tagged unions which enable a better way of error handling! No more perror, GetLastError and thr like! Now combine this with a great build system and what you get is a programming language suitable for ANYTHING!
+do you like C? If so, you will love Hare
+--- 93155172
+>>93153291
+get on my level bro
+--- 93155176
+>>93155161
+I really want something that helps me write more correct code. I'm getting mad that nobody except the rust troons are even TRYING right now.
+--- 93155177
+>>93155156
+>I don't mind if spammers learn to pay hiroshimoot for advertisement
+Everybody uses an adblocker. Besides, why would you pay to advertise a FREE program?
+--- 93155188
+>>93155161
+>>Did you know that Hare produces 10 times smaller binaries than C, while being almost as fast as C?
+Only for irrelevantly small binaries. It's a retardedly useless thing to optimize for, which is why nobody else bothers.
+--- 93155196
+>>93155176
+Optional borrow checker for hare is on the table.
+Also see https://harelang.org/blog/2022-06-21-safety-features/
+--- 93155267
+>>93149385 (OP)
+Please don't take the mean words here to heart, Drew.
+You're an amazing person and moreover you've done tenfold as much as the any of the retards in this thread.
+--- 93155280
+>>93155267
+I wholeheartedly agree. Drew is an amazing asset for the free software movement and all most retards on /g/ can do is complain and leech
+--- 93155296
+>>93155280
+>>93155267
+stop samefagging drew
+--- 93155309
+>>93155296
+Cope
+--- 93155312
+>>93155196
+hmm that doesn't look too bad
+Borrow checking would be a cool feature though, because done correctly, it could put hare in a similar class to rust/go for safety, which is a good place to be right now
+--- 93155316
+>>93155309
+>>93155280
+>>93155267
+t. drew
+--- 93155331
+>>93155309
+strange
+--- 93155332
+Is he responsible for the lack of good VRR in wayland?
+--- 93155333
+>>93155316
+>t. retard
+--- 93155337
+>>93155312
+go has no borrow checking, it has a full gc.
+"optional borrow checker" is just the same shit C has access to in static analysis, but shittier.
+--- 93155348
+>>93155316
+How did you know it was all me?
+--- 93155349
+>>93155332
+No, all he contributed to wayland was good
+--- 93155352
+Does anybody here actually believe that Drew, who starts a new project every few months, would have time for 4chan?
+
+>lurk more
+Cope more, his time has value
+--- 93155361
+>>93155352
+See >>93152050
+--- 93155365
+>>93155352
+Anon...
+>>93152050
+--- 93156294
+>>93155177
+Advertising without buying an ad is against the rules Drew.
+--- 93156312
+>>93155348
+We all know you change your IP to bump and samefag.
+--- 93156325
+>>93149385 (OP)
+>can't even take a break without attentionwhoring about it
+>types like he wish he had a couple dozen extra IQ
+unbelievably faggoted
+--- 93156354
+>>93149766
+I thought you said you were taking a break, Drew.
+--- 93156382
+>>93156354
+he's taking a break from programming to post on 4chan more
+--- 93156422
+>>93152050
+Lmao so it really was drew in all those wayland threads
+--- 93156692
+>>93155352
+He used to shill sway on /g/ in the early days. Yes.
+--- 93156798
+>>93156422
+>soijak memes
+I really did think Xoids couldn't get any lower IQ or lower T, but you subhuman "people" find a way
+--- 93156809
+>>93156798
+Whatever helps you sleep at night, drew.
+--- 93157255
+>>93149766
+Normally I try to separate producer from product but Drews posts were enough to cause concern. Someone like that can't possibly be mentally stable and when you're leading projects that's a bad thing for the project.
+Sure enough, here we are where he's having a mental breakdown and might quit altogether.
+I'm not glad by any means but I knew it was right to hold off from looking into Hare and Ares despite them looking promising.
+It's also hard to contribute to projects when the owner doesn't like you for reasons that are out of your control and won't stop being open about that. That puts me in a lose lose situation.
+--- 93157383
+>>93157255
+>It's also hard to contribute to projects when the owner doesn't like you for reasons that are out of your control and won't stop being open about that.
+Is this in response to Drew's pro-trans, anti-white posts? Or something else?

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+-----
+--- 93149433
+Good bless the anon, the workforce and the goddamn pipelines. 
+
+>Interview Prep
+https://leetcode.com/study-plan/leetcode-75
+https://blog.interviewing.io/
+
+>Resume Stuff
+https://www.careercup.com/resume
+https://cultivatedculture.com/resume-statistics/
+
+>Salary Stuff
+"What's your expected salary, anon?": https://www.fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/salary-expectations-interview-question/
+Negotiation advice: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/how-not-to-bomb-your-offer-negotiation-c46bb9bc7dea/
+More negotiation advice: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/
+Salary data: https://levels.fyi/
+
+>Responding to Recruiter Spam
+Advice on how to not get your time wasted: https://pastebin.com/WX4b62Jx
+
+>Layoffs
+https://layoffs.fyi/
+
+>Helpful YouTube Channels
+they're all grifters but here are some
+https://www.youtube.com/@ContinuousDelivery
+https://www.youtube.com/@EngineeringwithUtsav
+https://www.youtube.com/@ByteByteGo (systems design at a high level)
+https://www.youtube.com/@gkcs (systems design in more detail)
+https://www.youtube.com/@ycombinator (if you're doing a startup)
+
+>"I'm a self-taught dev/went to a bootcamp and have no degree, how do I get a tech job?"
+You're fucked.
+
+>/twg/ IRC Channel
+#/g/twg on irc.rizon.net, it's comfy
+Web client: https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.rizon.net/#/g/twg
+
+Previous Thread: >>93123195 →
+--- 93149608
+>>93149433 (OP)
+I'm quitting my 450k/y stripe job (senior swe)
+In the middle of an economic downturn
+With no jobs (ink on paper) lined up
+ama
+--- 93149638
+If you don't have a comp. eng. or CS degree you will always have a shit tier code monkey job and you will never solve real complex problems.
+--- 93149676
+Boss is giving the speech about company loyalty and how quitters never win.
+
+God I hate this shit.
+--- 93150232
+Bumping this thread because the other one doesn't have a subject, so this one is better
+--- 93150723
+>>93149638
+I just got a CS degree and can't even get a shit tier code monkey job.
+--- 93150904
+gee twg how come janny lets you have TWO threads?
+--- 93150946
+>>93150723
+You also need not to be a retard
+--- 93151523
+>get degree from clown college
+>don't actually know shit but I have the magic piece of paper
+>want to be sysadmin but skip the help desk step
+What do and what study?
+I have basic Linux and bash skills as well as some programming knowledge.
+--- 93151628
+>>93150904
+The other one isn't /twg/ because it doesn't have /twg/ in the subject
+--- 93151649
+my life is so empty im waiting to get back to work after long weekend
+--- 93151655
+>>93151523
+Like everyone says, you make your bones or get hired through nepotism. What so damn hard about leaving a job every 2-3 years?
+--- 93151787
+I dread mondays so much. When Sunday comes, to pass the time I'd just jack off, browse hentai sites and 4chan instead of just napping, learn to draw, or read books or watch movies fucksake. Maybe look up on my long backlog of games and see what I can play.
+
+I want to stop being like this. I just feel like what's the point if I can only learn to draw on Sundays. I will never be good compared to the ones who can draw daily.
+--- 93152598
+>>93151649
+same
+--- 93152651
+>>93149433 (OP)
+Does anyone else feel kinda guilty about their job? My gf is a nurse putting up with insane shit (combative patients, literal shit, meth heads) and works 12 hr shifts for like $75k with virtually no chance at a meaning raise or anything. Meanwhile I wfh clearing over $100k without doing fucking anything some days and get like 5 weeks PTO and a solid yearly raise + bonus. 
+
+I have no idea how to rationalize this shit. I feel like a bitch.
+--- 93152670
+>>93152651
+you provide more value than she does, simple as
+--- 93152699
+>>93152651
+no because I like money
+--- 93152708
+>>93152670
+Do I though? She saves people from dying, I update a few tests in software sold to gigantic corporations.
+--- 93152735
+>>93152651
+>Does anyone else feel kinda guilty about their job?
+I know what you mean, but I prefer to feel grateful, or lucky.
+--- 93152751
+>>93152651
+Use the extra free time and energy to do something meaningful.
+--- 93152786
+>>93152751
+I wanted to do volunteer EMS but no classes are being offered in my area for at least several months. I'm sitting in purgatory.
+--- 93152793
+>>93149433 (OP)
+Australia is probably the best example of an oversaturated IT workforce. It is borderline impossible to even get an entry level job even with the help of certs and diplomas. I think I need a career change.
+--- 93152840
+>>93152793
+Just come to the US
+--- 93152843
+Anyone doing 2 jobs at the same time? I do tech consulting in the data engineering/dev ops space, and I got a second contracting gig that I do at the same time, doubling my salary. So far so good but nervous about juggling meetings and workload when things start to pick up/
+--- 93152891
+>try to finish a feature today so I dont have to think about it for the whole week cuz I took it off
+>Werks on my machine, send to server
+>Shits out
+>Requires OS specific library
+>Fix it, send again
+>It kinda shits out, the most important feature doesn't work
+>Haven't found a way to fix it, seems like that OS specific lib is bugged
+There's a new version for the tool that I'm using to develop this feature but it's not for commercial use
+Fuck it, no one is ever going to find out, I need that break
+--- 93152914
+>>93152843
+Zased. Get that money king.
+--- 93152928
+>>93152708
+With tech work (and I guess office work in general), it is sometimes difficult to see the value we provide.
+
+One of my relatives always say he sees his bullshit job just as a way to make money and find his fulfillment elsewhere, and that's probably very reasonable course of action.
+--- 93152955
+>>93152708
+saving random people from dying doesn't provide that much value
+there's 8 billion of them in the world and most of them are poor
+--- 93153226
+>>93149433 (OP)
+
+>be me
+>get emergency tickets
+>database guy claims the issue is generated by a database error 
+>I take a brief look at one of the tickets and discover the error is coming from somewhere else
+>we talk about it last week. I try to be diplomatic. Let him know there is some database error for some tickets, but not for the one I fixed.
+>week passes by.
+>during standup I throw database guy a bone, since his good people
+>"me and database guy looked at this issue last week and the issue is very complex. For some of the other emergency tickets is definitely in the database. Not for this one however"
+>database guy has a meltdown during standup and claims that even though my solution solved problem it is physically impossible for the ticket to be solved. Since he is convinced the issue is caused by the database.
+
+
+no good deed goes unpunished.
+--- 93153284
+me watching 20+ emails start flooding in after I sent out my phish testing campaign for my company
+--- 93153327
+>>93153284
+Nice job getting that bonus baiting those boomers. Fuck them, now they have to spend a few hours doing phishing training!
+--- 93153344
+>>93153226
+>helping other people
+dumbass
+--- 93153454
+>>93153284
+how can I get this job? I always click the spam button, my company is constantly sending these stupid fake email tests and people keep falling for them.
+I wish I could write fake emails in bad English and get paid for it.
+--- 93153474
+>>93153454
+get net+ and sec+. best certs to get your foot in the door for cybersecurity and if you've already done other IT work it helps a lot too 
+look for "security analyst positions
+--- 93153491
+>>93153454
+>henlo ser, your bank detales have been campromized and we need to more your munny to a secore account, just give me your details good sir
+--- 93153514
+>>93153474
+imagine doing certs lmao
+--- 93153515
+Do any of you have side hustles or side businesses to make money?
+--- 93153522
+>>93153514
+look I don't really like them either but the people who hire do
+--- 93153555
+happy good pipelinrl
+--- 93153984
+finally got a job offer.... it's helpdesk
+--- 93154157
+how do I actually estimate my 'market value' when compared to something like levels.fyi? is there somewhere I can look at responsibilities/experience and what that translates to? I think im being paid a bit under market rate for my specific work and current responsibilities but I already make so much it feels weird to even consider asking for more
+--- 93154664
+The AWS representative that was the rep for my company since I got hired was laid off from amazon. Seeing all the fake shit on linkedin about what a good job he says he did makes me want to vomit especially since he called me Alan for multiple years despite me correcting him multiple times. Also he'd straight up just send the wrong emails to the wrong companies some times. Linkedin is so fake it hurts.
+--- 93154705
+>>93152793
+get a Hilux and become a tradie. you don't even need a license if you drive a Hilux
+--- 93154791
+>>93153515
+yeah i suck dick on the side $20 a pop used to be $10 but inflation hits hard you know. it's all under the table though (lol) so don't tell the irs
+--- 93155067
+>>93153515
+Yes I own a file hosting platform
+--- 93155168
+>>93149608
+How will you name your startup?
+--- 93155207
+>>93154157
+what do you mean bro? if you work at a large company its pretty easy to tell where you're at compared to levels. if you're at a startup sometimes you just have to wear many different hats.
+--- 93155232
+>>93149676
+I'm sure he also announced how many shares each of you got today.
+--- 93155880
+>>93155207
+I used to be in FAANG and hated it. I'm now in a sort of startup(?), smaller size but yuge funding, and yes wearing many hats. I'm having trouble translating that to a 'market price' for myself though
+--- 93155908
+>>93152708
+Well, you provide more money to you're boss that's why you're salary is higher. But, just making more money doesn't mean you're better than someone. There are kikes on Wall Street who just trade and sell all day long, but make millions. So be happy you at least helping to create something instead of trading.
+--- 93155939
+Legitimately speaking, what even is the point of a use case diagram? I've looked at over a hundred of these now and at this point I'm not convinced that a single one of them contained more than one or two sentences worth of information. 
+
+The idea of building something like pic related and having it somehow provide more help than the time spent building it -- or provide any help at all for that matter -- is just laughable to me. Maybe if you've never thought about the problem at all before this would be a good first step, but if you've got a third of a brain and you've looked at or interacted with the process you're modeling then you're already beyond what this provides in terms of understanding.
+--- 93156111
+>>93149608
+don't leave be lazy until you get fired.
+--- 93156140
+>>93155880
+I think it would be a hard sell for anything above staff unless you were already staff+ before transitioning to the startup. I'm only senior though, so take it with a grain of salt.
+--- 93156244
+>new woman in the office
+>one of the first thing they say is I have a boyfriend
+who the fuck cares retarded hole
+--- 93156250
+>>93155939
+its administrative bloat to create fake jobs for useless nepotistic or diversity hire fucks to waste their time on pretending to be relevant or important to the organization's function, whether it's making or analyzing them
+--- 93156256
+helo twg, im a degreeless loser but made a decent portfolio. no skin in the game except the portfolio, no work experience etc etc but have an interview lined up for junior position. 
+how much do I ask for?
+dont wanna lose the offer but dont want to sell myself short and look like a wimp by keeling over
+--- 93156263
+>>93152891
+Try using docker to test with the host image.
+--- 93156296
+>>93152891
+at our office we dont pay for any visual studio license and we use the free version of almost everything
+--- 93156302
+>>93156244
+why the fuck do women talk so much
+I work with two of them in the same office and they just cannot shut the fuck up
+I dont care about your brother, father, sister, your checkups, how it was for college, about your commute holy shit female go get married finally and pester someone who will be obligated to listen to you drivel jesus christ
+
+they do this at least 2 hours a day
+and then people dare say were all less productive when WFH
+--- 93156400
+>>93156244
+Considering the field isn't exactly known to attract social butterflies, mentioning something like that is very reasonable thing to do.
+--- 93156403
+>Indian hr fag emails in broken English that his mouse and keyboard stopped working
+>he then walks to my desk to tell me
+>he turned Bluetooth off
+--- 93156490
+>worked 3 months with react-native
+>worked 5 months with PHP (Yii 2)
+>worked 8 months with ReactJS
+>worked for 7 months with NodeJS
+>worked 4 months with vueJS
+>worked more 6 months with react-native (again)
+>now i had to change back to PHP again
+Fuck this shit! I have more than 2 years of xp with programming but i couldn't get good at anything at all because i always need to change my stack in this shitty company.
+I was doing some interviews these days and i failed in all of them because i didn't ''had the necessary experience with stack needed for the position''.
+I don't know what to do right now. I'm currently working in a Laravel project with PHP (again) and in some months i'll forget almost everything about the other stacks i worked with. This is really a pain in the ass. I'm trying some interviews to get rid of this shitty company i'm in but it's being very hard. I have another technical interview tomorrow for a frontend vueJS role. The manager said that he needed someone with at least 3 years with VueJS but he decided to go on because he liked the way i proceeded in the first interview. I know that I'll fail again but I'll try anyway.
+--- 93156553
+>mandatory return to office starts tomorrow
+>we're just there to look pretty to executives despite being able to do all my work easily at home with better equipment
+>office wont even upgrade our computers or equipment to make life easier
+
+I hate corporate.
+--- 93156557
+>>93152651
+you're more valuable than her. just accept it and be a man.
+--- 93156583
+>>93156302
+>and then people dare say were all less productive when WFH
+Me and my coworkers joke on my programming team how you literally get nothing done at the office compared to home. This return to office shit is such bs. People constantly talking outside your cubicle while youre trying to focus.
+--- 93156597
+>>93156553
+My deadline is coming soon. I'm just going to ride it out until they fire me. No way I'm relocating to the Bay area.
+--- 93156608
+>senior slacking on code reviews again
+>deploy is in a few days
+>ill have to crunch any fixes if tester finds something I missed
+its all so tiring
+--- 93156771
+>>93156583
+>>93156302
+The only difference is that working in the office you can "look busy" better because you're there in person. If some suit walks by, they see people talking and assumes it's about work, not realizing 80% of these conversations are talking about what they did in the weekend or what they're going to do in the weekend. But if you work from home, a missed meeting or not being available 24/7 is seen as "not being productive" because you're not glued to your desk after finishing your work early because you're able to focus without constant chatter all around you.
+--- 93156788
+>>93156771
+Corporate culture really is fucked up
+--- 93156992
+soo, how are the layoffs going? Are they still ongoing? Asking for a friend
+--- 93156995
+Can someone please explain what the hell a sysadmin actually does? I got offered a junior position in NYC on the spot last year, but couldn't accept it because I couldn't relocate on such short notice. I still can't get any interviews for [junior] sysadmin positions in the UK, despite now having some work experience + a bachelor's in cybersec. I have 8 months experience in a helpdesk role that was 50/50 1st/2nd line and now 4 months experience in a pure helpdesk role. Just the degree and 8 month role was enough to get the job offer in NY.
+
+Is it primarily 2nd line, actioning tickets for backend things? I know about ACLs, AD shit, basic networking, NASs, etc, but I'm currently shit at virtualization, programming/scripting (without stealing shit off stackoverflow), dealing with SaaS vendors, etc. I know more, and need to learn more, but is it primarily 2nd line back in the states? The UK is fucked up and they make you take on way too many roles for little to no extra pay; so much so that no two positions are even remotely similar anymore. I'm sick of this shit. Looking to take my sec+ exam in June.
+--- 93157048
+>>93156995
+>The UK is fucked up and they make you take on way too many roles for little to no extra pay; so much so that no two positions are even remotely similar anymore. I'm sick of this shit.
+sys admins get roped into all kinds of shit, all the time (assuming you are in a non-IT company, which usually means the IT department is very understaffed). you sound like you dont have any actual homeland you care to stay in just like most of the people in the northeast and great lakes states, so you have a lot of freedom in job prospects
+--- 93157059
+Why do companies wanna do so many interviews? Fucking 3-4 hours of interviews. I have experience, just give me the damn job.
+--- 93157069
+>>93156995
+>declined a position in nyc to apply for junior jobs in the uk
+lmao kill yourself retard
+--- 93157183
+>>93157059
+I thought after 6 years experience it would be easier to find a job but it's even worse now. The worst are the no-name companies wanting to be like a FAANG company and making you do 5 interviews in the same day. But usually it's the introductory phone call with the recruiter who doesn't know anything, then the first interview which is the same as the introductory phone call but you are talking with the hiring manager or an engineer. Then from there it's usually 2-3 interviews. On average, if I do all interviews it'll take about a month or a month and a half just to be told that I didn't get the job. 
+
+I kind of wish every company just hired you for a short-term contract and converted you to full-time after seeing how you work. But then again companies would probably abuse that if that was the norm. I just hope the next job I have lasts longer than 2-3 years so I don't have to go through this time-consuming process ever again.
+--- 93157212
+>>93157183
+>I kind of wish every company just hired you for a short-term contract and converted you to full-time after seeing how you work. 
+
+This is what I really want in the end.
+--- 93157291
+>>93157048
+Aye, I'm fully aware and actually welcoming of the "wearing of many hats". The UK seems to like having the bare minimum amount of staff, for minimal pay, so the "hats" are way bigger. Most businesses/companies that pay fairly are most often based overseas.
+
+>>93157069
+>"[...]but couldn't accept it because I couldn't relocate on such short notice."
+>nowhere near what I meant
+Where do you work? I'll take your job, since your reading comprehension is a fucking liability.

g/93149505.txt

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+-----
+--- 93149505
+Big yud was right all along...
+--- 93149659
+but I thought Ai was going to bring us a communist utopia
+--- 93149743
+I am become Chuck, the sneeder of feed.
+--- 93149855
+Mathematics is a young man's game.
+--- 93149911
+>>93149505 (OP)
+Where's that interview?
+--- 93149932
+>>93149505 (OP)
+
+He should finish the forward-forward algorithm and get it running on neuromorphic hardware.
+
+Now all we're left with is some Frenchman and a bunch of jews bringing their antiwhite bias into the AI realm.
+--- 93150089
+regret AFTER he made that all
+good job
+because you could not tell it was a bad idea to develop cutting edge technologies for big corpo
+like
+all the movies did not teach you anything
+haha he did the Oppenheimerino
+whoopsie
+--- 93150192
+>>93149659
+Whether it gives everyone their own private loli island holodeck, or autoclaves the planet, a Singularity will be better than the hell that is wage-slavery under Capitalism.
+--- 93150390
+>>93150089
+>just don't do anything because it might turn out bad 50 years later
+dumbass
+--- 93150581
+>>93149659
+In order for Communism to function, it needs a massive slave class. Just look at the gulag system in USSR of yesteryear or North Korea and China today.
+--- 93150810
+>>93150390
+do it for good people, not tech giants that literally removed their "Don't be evil" motto. It should have been more open source driven from the beginning
+--- 93150838
+>the artificial intelligence became... intelligent?
+--- 93150869
+>>93150089
+Nukes have ensured relatively long-term peace though. Only countries at risk for war in this day are countries without nukes
+--- 93150915
+>>93149505 (OP)
+AI causes more rapid capital accumulation among the capitalist class?
+I had no idea... I was just developing it for fun...
+--- 93150933
+>>93150192
+all it will give you is a wealthier capitalist class and some half measures to reduce to population growth and move people about
+--- 93151138
+>>93150869
+long term peace what, we are in full blown war and you dont seeit, war is always there in a form or another, this is a cold war worse than before
+--- 93151340
+>>93151138
+You should have seen real wars
+--- 93151464
+>>93151340
+easy to say there is "peace" sitting comfortably and safely on USA soil home, "real" wars are everywhere and always have been, go ask Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, and all eastern globe when was the last time they felt the peace, ofc there is peace for you if you are the bully (usa)
+--- 93151491
+nukes just ensure mutual annihilation, shut the fuck up you warmonger
+--- 93151559
+> Nukes have ensured relatively long-term peace though
+
+then please lets make sure everyone gets their nuke!
+MORE PEACE YAY
+
+ignorant
+--- 93151603
+>>93151559
+it would unironically work that way
+but nuclear countries don't want this because then they wouldn't be able to declare war on non-nuclear countries as they please.
+--- 93151620
+>>93150192
+current gubmints with all the regulations are closer to socialism than capitalism
+--- 93151631
+SouthKorea is being given nukes by the Biden administration, just like you want
+this would surely not upset NK, China and Russia and potentially escalate things there
+oh no
+this will lead to more PEACE
+right!!!!
+some people do not really have a clue
+--- 93151645
+>>93149505 (OP)
+>nobel
+So a retarded member of the in group, disregard anything he says
+--- 93151652
+>>93151631
+if Ukraine had nukes, it wouldn't be at war right now
+--- 93151669
+>>93151645
+Read?
+--- 93151699
+>>93151603
+>it would unironically work that way
+Until one day someone just says fuck it and tries to see how far he can push a nuclear country without triggering a nuclear war. First they'll blow up bridges and oil tankers, then they'll do terrorist attacks in major cities, then military excursions in border regions. This is happening right now in case you're not following the news. How far can you push before a nuke flies your way? We could find out this year.
+--- 93151733
+>>93151652
+India and Pakistan are constantly at war with each other and both have nukes. It doesn't actually work that way, nuke don't actually freeze your enemy into inaction, they just make him hesitate a bit and then he pushes on anyway
+--- 93151752
+>>93151652
+Conversely, if Russia didn't have nukes, the war would have been over a lot faster
+--- 93151769
+>>93151559
+Yeah, if Ukraine have not given up post USRR nukes, they would not be invaded. 
+Nukes are greatest deterrent. No one wants nuclear war. 
+
+And even if there would be some schizo dictator who would want it, there is big chance that chain of command would collapse when nuclear war would be commanded. 
+Cause even dictators lackeys have families, and things they want to protect, and full blown nuclear war puts all of it in danger.
+--- 93151800
+>>93151652
+you have no clue, if Ukraine had nukes we already would be at ww3, Zekensky would have been dumb enough to use them and Russia would have respond with theirs wiping out all Ukraine, maybe you do not know how powerful nukes are, because even few nukes CANNOT wipe out Russia, but few nukes can wipe out Ukraine, the immediate damage from the Nukes is not that "much" (still a lot) but compared to the other stuff that comes after an area has been nuked, there are websites where you can simulate them nukes, try them
+--- 93151827
+>>93151800
+If Ukrained had nukes, Russia would not attack them, that's first.
+And even If they did, and Zelenski used them, no one would side with Ukraine after that.
+--- 93151967
+>>93151699
+this, more nukes there are, the more the chances of some dumbpuppeteed politician to use them, because if everyone has them, things even out and countries will still wage war against each other believing that the rival will not be so stupid to use them, but it takes just One time them one would actually use them and will be wwIII
+--- 93152001
+>>93151827
+oh ok if they had them, probably yes they would have not invaded, i understood if they were given now, yet still Russia COULD have invaded nonetheless, because Russia nuclear capability is way beyond what Ukraine would have had
+--- 93152071
+>>93150089
+>all the movies did not teach you anything
+You mean the ones funded by large corpos and headed by yids?
+--- 93152097
+>>93152001
+>nukea country you want to take over
+>make the land uninhabitable for couple generations
+>make everyone trigger-happy to nuke you the next time you show up at their border
+yeah, there's such a great incentive to use nukes in an expansive war
+--- 93152111
+>>93152071
+yes, movies ARE funded by corpos, yet they are still true, they are just a preview to mock the population and show them what is about to happen, actually is deeper than that, if you know you know why that does happen
+--- 93152161
+>>93152097
+there were no great incentives to nuke a defeated country more than one time by the USA..
+but yet
+still
+--- 93152215
+>>93152161
+There was one
+To show that USA has the most advanced militarily in the world, and it worked.
+--- 93152280
+>>93152161
+>no great incentive
+>nips so buck-broken that they worship 'murica half a century later
+--- 93152538
+post link faggot
+--- 93152882
+>>93151138
+As long as they don't send me dying in a muddy trench like my great grandfather I'm ok with whatever "war" we're currently experiencing.
+--- 93153262
+>>93151631
+
+korean economy to collapse from chinese competition
+--- 93153356
+>>93151620
+Is that what really matter? Avoiding wage slaving is what is important.
+--- 93153463
+>>93151699
+Falklands war happened
+you can attack a nuke-armed country as long as you dont invade their main, home, soil
+--- 93153546
+>>93152161
+Failure to instantly surrender is ample incentive. Fire raids didn't work up to that point either. 
+Nothing less than surrender is surrender, and "defeat" isn't real until the enemy surrenders.
+--- 93153586
+>>93149659
+So you think people in power are just gonna give up their their superior position and become normies? Fuck no.
+
+"AI Alignment" means aligning the AI's goals with the elite, so that they can still be at the top. Normie faggots will be worse off with god like AI on elites side.
+
+And if I was one of these elites, I would do the same thing in heartbeat. I would build myself and my circle a heaven on earth, fix all the problems with my body and live forever. All while watching you from the clouds like the god I would be.
+
+But maybe that is just me. Maybe none of the real elites have such thoughts. Maybe they don't like the idea of absolute power.
+--- 93153602
+>>93150192
+>>93153356
+>wage-slavery
+No such thing.
+It's a retarded buzzphrase.
+No one is forcing you to work for them.
+You are not entitled to other people's labour.
+--- 93153612
+>>93153463
+Ukraine is carrying out some missions on Russian soil and there's no nuclear war. So I guess you can do that as well. One day we will find out exactly what the line is and after that day there will be no line
+--- 93153648
+>>93149932
+This is the only comment that actually knows what's going on
+Why is Hinton being such a fag now? Cause his algorithms are built to name the Jew? LOL the state of computer science
+--- 93153675
+>>93153602
+You are retarded if you don't want AI to end paper shuffling jobs, or believe it actually can anytime soon
+--- 93153907
+>>93153675
+>end of paper shuffling jobs
+>anon thinks he'll just become entitled to free shit because he became obsolte
+lmao, it's never not funny how you communist fucks think the world begins and ends with you
+when your job gets automated, you find a new job, just like everyone else in the history who found himself in a similar situation
+if you can't adapt, you'll perish as Nature wills it
+--- 93153979
+>>93151464
+Yeah those are countries without nukes
+--- 93154896
+>>93153602
+>No such thing as wage-slavery.
+Sure, everyone has a choice between selling their body for whatever the market deems they are worth, or dying of starvation in a ditch somewhere.
+What a great choice, I don't know why anyone would complain.
+>You are not entitled to other people's labour.
+You are not entitled to private property, which is a legal fiction. We live in a society, etc.
+--- 93155194
+>>93150581
+This is why people thought AI and supreme automation would give us that. Robots are the slave labour here, and you would not be able to no longer justify the fruits of automation if you had no more bullshit jobs keeping people busy, since all made up work can be done by AI easier then real work. The world or at least the developed world would be forced to either start UBI or let people start and see the greatest riots in human history, or downright revolution.
+--- 93155392
+>>93155194
+The way automation played out also means they don't have any machine police force to handle it or go death camp mode with it kek
+--- 93155406
+>>93150810
+>good people
+--- 93155774
+>>93155392
+Yeah, the most they can do is cut off food supply. Even in 20 years with Boston supersolider robots, they couldn't stand a chance purely because of robotics pricing.
+--- 93156141
+I wish we still had Stephen Hawking around.
+
+He was saying the same things Yud is, but had established reputation and respect (and no fedora), and it's more likely people would have listened to him.
+--- 93156280
+>>93156141
+what? hawking was a fraud too,just not as bad as yud
+--- 93156283
+>>93150869
+Nukes haven't even been around for a full century yet. Every powerful revolutionary new weapon in human history gets put to use eventually. Historically individual nations rise and fall every few decades to every few centuries, do you really think nuclear war is something that will never happen? We've already been saved by nothing but luck MULTIPLE times, with at least one case of an officer straightup disobeying standing orders to launch.
+--- 93156415
+>>93156280
+>hawking was a fraud too
+Wow, I thought he was an internationally respected physicist.
+Thanks for correcting us all with your wise words, random anonymous dude on 4chan.
+--- 93156418
+>>93153602
+>You are not entitled to other people's labour.
+Speak for yourself, this is a buzzphrase used to strawman socialism. The only people who are hurt by socialism are those who make insane profit off the surplus value from other people's work.

g/93149689.txt

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+-----
+--- 93149689
+>Not sure what private trackers are all about?
+The mission of /ptg/ is to promote the highest possible standards of tracker service by providing members with opportunities for professional development, by recognizing technical competence through examinations and by advancing the interests of its members.
+
+>Have a question?
+- FAQ https://archive.is/UVQkn
+- WIKI https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Private_trackers
+- NEWFAG PYRAMID (Updating) https://inviteroute.github.io/graph
+- PTER PYRAMID (Searchable) https://files.catbox.moe/8x4lsk.pdf
+- PYRAMID (Outdated 2021-08-22) https://files.catbox.moe/z8iw78.png 
+- CHINESE NOODLES https://i.imgur.com/2aUgV6f.png https://i.imgur.com/Gax1frj.png
+- STUDY https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/2F379FE0CB50DF502F0075119FD3E060
+- SPREADSHEET https://hdvinnie.github.io/Private-Trackers-Spreadsheet/
+- IRC irc://irc.sageru.org#ptg
+
+Use >>>/g/ptg as a link to find the /ptg/ thread.
+
+>Remember the following:
+>READ THE OP BEFORE MAKING A FUCKING QUESTION YOU RETARDED FAGGOT.
+>It doesn't matter if you use the same username in different trackers, the staff still share your IP with each other.
+>Staff is reading, being /marked/ is NOT a meme.
+>Don't ask for invites, it's private for a reason.
+>If starting out you should interview for RED, rank to elite, wait on account age and get invites from there. That's it, that's all you have to do.
+>If you want to rank up on RED, spam recent deezer shit with deemix/smloadr. To cheat the interview, download the interview prep site or take screenshots.
+
+Previous thread: >>93144107
+--- 93149781
+Where are you grinding, anon? What's your goal?
+--- 93149806
+>>93149781
+I've completed my grind, got into bhd and ab
+--- 93149808
+retarded jannies
+nuking the thread instead of op image
+not even 4chan is as based as OT... ... ...
+--- 93149813
+the images become worse....
+--- 93149854
+>>93149813
+if you think this is worse than the other thread, then I have bad news
+--- 93149888
+How many -Ao releases are on OurBits?
+I don't want to join for nothing.
+--- 93149898
+>>93149854
+It's certainly not better
+--- 93149919
+>>93149888
+What are -Ao releases?
+--- 93150007
+>>93149689 (OP)
+this image is pure pornography. call the mods, time to cull
+--- 93150043
+Instructions on how you can get into a private tracker
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGvk00r9ayI [Embed]
+--- 93150055
+>>93150007
+I hate Americans with their disgusting unnatural puritanism so much it's unreal.
+--- 93150067
+EASY PTP UPLOADS:
+Vimeo, BBC, PBS, tubi rips, mind the rules and if it doesn't have an IMDB, they will exempt you in the thread! There are MANY short films on vimeo. People spam them all of the time, there is no shortage!
+
+Missing.php/requests.php
+remuxes! very easy
+race scene shit! You can very easily fill the scene slot!
+Find and rip local films and documentaries! There are more than you think.
+
+Take a quick look at https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/supportedsites.html
+
+get a working L3 crack and rip new webshit! very easy again,
+https://cdm-project.com/How-To
+If you are too brain damaged, you can use anystream or a similar tool.
+There are threads for each DRM'd service if you can rip!
+
+
+BTN required multiple uploads last time and people ate shit for having a single one, so think about that when you put in the bare minimum requirements.
+--- 93150071
+the more I look around in AB the more I like it, joined for anime but they even have hololive concerts
+--- 93150079
+>>93150043
+>imagine downloading a program from SOFTPEDIA
+--- 93150100
+>>93150071
+>but they even have hololive concerts
+Link??
+--- 93150107
+>>93150067
+Will BTN next recruit from HDB or PTP?
+--- 93150108
+>>93149919
+Based chinese man rips every audio track and sub track so I can enjoy my nipponese audio on western content.
+Cowardly western trackers do not ever do this.
+--- 93150115
+>>93150107
+BTN isn't short on users.
+--- 93150125
+>>93150067
+>Find and rip local films and documentaries
+The problem is that when I rip a local DVD for example, it often doesn't have English subs and is therefore trumpable
+--- 93150130
+>>93150115
+True, I guess I should have specified IF they recruit.
+--- 93150137
+>>93150067
+thank you bro
+--- 93150142
+>>93150100
+>hololive 4th fes. Our Bright Parade
+https://youtu.be/RzjyZbIA284 [Embed]
+--- 93150144
+>>93150125
+DVDISO shouldn't be trumpable
+and you can just add subs
+--- 93150208
+>>93150067
+Almost forgor the easiest of easy.
+Install the IMDB scout mod, and the PTP missing artist movies userscript.
+
+>click random artist page from recent uploads
+>script loads
+>shows missing movies
+>click a few imdb links
+>already found 3 movies
+It's that easy. (>>93066996 →)
+--- 93150281
+>>93150108
+>b-but English+Original lang is all anyone needs! Bloat! noooooooooo
+so much for being an "archive"
+And no, remuxes don't cut it since regions still unfortunately exist. Nor web rips, since nobody bothers to grab the other tracks and mux them in.
+--- 93150435
+>>93150312
+it's copypaste
+do you think the OP rewrites the thread everytime
+how stupid!
+--- 93150513
+>>93150067
+>>93150067
+>doesn't have an IMDB
+That was a rule? Explains why so much stuff is missing.
+--- 93150521
+>>93149781
+I'm grinding classes, right now is master on BTN, torrent master on PTP, etm on RED and legend on AB.
+--- 93150526
+>>93150435
+Are you the same poor euro dumbfuck from last thread?
+
+Last thread's opening post literally had child porn. Pedo defender shitter.
+--- 93150544
+Is there a secret phrase to send to the very special someone recruiting on you know where for an invite to you know what?
+--- 93150559
+>>93150513
+https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4238364/
+incredible kino still missing even WITH imdb
+fatally flawed system
+--- 93150563
+>>93150526
+so you lied, you can't even "reognize my writing style"
+you're the idiot that thinks all general OPs are manually written...
+--- 93150578
+>>93150312
+They are not the same op, last one is the retarded polish weeb i think
+--- 93150626
+>>93150559
+You are utterly clueless. Move along, then.
+--- 93150640
+>>93150125
+Nobody's going to trump those.
+--- 93150649
+does anyone use autotorrent? im having a time trying to set this shit up
+
+https://github.com/JohnDoee/autotorrent2
+--- 93150661
+>>93150559
+This is actually on ptp
+--- 93150671
+>>93150626 >>93150513
+Nothing is disallowed, they will literally give you a code to use to bypass it.
+--- 93150889
+>>93150671
+so, to upload on PTP, you gotta have a IMDb link, but you can ask staff to upload without a link?
+--- 93150901
+How often do you crack?
+--- 93150942
+>>93150889
+yeah, it's just a thread a bunch of people are posting in
+--- 93150958
+>>93150889
+My last upload didnt have an IMDB link, didnt need a code either. That was close to two years ago, its still up.
+--- 93151034
+>uploading something you personally would not consume
+--- 93151043
+>>93150958
+You just put a zero right? What's the point of telling people to go into the thread then? (yes, there are other exceptions that can be made)
+--- 93151061
+>>93151034
+Yeah, I resonate with that, but it would be impossible to grind on RED to TM otherwise.
+--- 93151094
+>>93150312
+how long before ptg becomes koomg
+--- 93151102
+UNDERAGE GENERAL
+op image and regulars
+--- 93151217
+>>93151043
+I dont remember
+--- 93151240
+is there a restricted invite forum on karagarga ?
+
+should i try join KG?
+--- 93151272
+>>93151240
+Fuck off. Leave that invite for someone who would use it properly
+--- 93151302
+>>93151240
+No one use the forums on kg, only to dl subtitles
+--- 93151305
+ive made it to all trackers and usenet sites, what do I do now?
+--- 93151312
+>>93151305
+Break into the scene.
+--- 93151327
+>>93151312
+i have broken manga app encryptions though
+--- 93151416
+>>93150649
+i've used it a few years ago
+--- 93151438
+>>93151305
+have sex
+--- 93151468
+>>93151327
+Good! Hentai?
+Try mailing darkstars either way.
+
+https://litter.catbox.moe/7eqv9c.png
+--- 93151517
+>>93151438
+might try that, whats the path?
+>>93151468
+but i dont wanna rip hentai...is there anyone who needs raws? might just make my own group
+--- 93151621
+>>93151517
+I said mail anyway, they have lots of subgroups. One does comics/magazines/manga. idk if they need raws
+you can just upload 2 the panda or give them to existing groups if it's really that hard 2 crack either way
+--- 93151705
+>>93151305
+>all trackers and usenet sites
+Have you though? Are you sure? So you have an mv, tch, and h4h account? You're on the sekrit indexers (not just omg/.in)?
+If you really have, you could try getting into DDL and DC++.
+--- 93151706
+>>93151302
+no good for finding invites then?
+--- 93151708
+>>93151240
+>is there a restricted invite forum on karagarga ?
+It's not restricted, every KG member has access to it.
+--- 93151744
+>>93151708
+Not that anon but does anyone recruit there?
+--- 93151764
+>>93151744
+Any decent trackers I mean
+--- 93151810
+>>93151621
+are you associated with them or why are you recommending them? or are they just one of the few who post email?
+--- 93151829
+>>93151705
+i guess ill just consume content, whats the point of getting into more places? at the end of the day I should use the sites no?
+--- 93151833
+>>93149781
+I've been in all the trackers I could want for years now. BTN, PTP, RED (lol), AB, GGN, PixelCove for that nice TeknoParrot collection, JPS, OPS, Karagarga but I don't use that anymore really, RTW, JPTVS, Bib/MAM (not really needed anymore because Libgen BTFOs them both). I'm done.
+--- 93151902
+>>93151621
+Why isn't e-hentai full of manga?
+--- 93152004
+>new zelda leaked
+>GGn is still being raped by poojeets and chinks
+>nyaa is halfway done while GGn is still stalled... ...
+I fucking hate private trackers
+--- 93152184
+>>93152004
+>finally works
+>5mins later it already surpassed nyaa
+ok, private trackers are kinda nice
+sorry GGn, but get your shit together
+--- 93152357
+>>93151833
+Time to give something back to the communities you are part of
+--- 93152436
+private trackering is gay and aids 
+just buy a netflix sub you poor faggots lol
+--- 93152476
+>>93152436
+You are a capeshitter, you have no voice here
+--- 93152522
+>>93152436
+>just buy a netflix sub you poor faggots lol
+lol this faggot is on /g/ and he's recommending something a woman would
+--- 93152586
+>>93152476
+lmao this retard here thinks watching old ass shit makes him cool lol 
+
+>>93152522
+shared netflix accounts are like 3 bux are you poor or smth? lol grow up and stop wasting your time pirating shit you won't ever watch
+--- 93153001
+How much is a lot of torrents?
+--- 93153003
+>>93152586
+No, but watching Netflix's crap for sure make you retarded, just like you
+--- 93153050
+>>93151833
+>Libgen
+Thank you based Rossiya
+--- 93153159
+>>93151833
+You've been a fucking leecher and still are
+--- 93153203
+>>93153001
+more than what you're leeching is too much
+auto-remove them
+--- 93153354
+>>93152436
+the amount I've spent on my setup would be more than a life time of netflix, but I get proper bitrate with dolby vision and hdr unlike your poor ass
+--- 93153358
+>>93153050
+--- 93153549
+>>93153358
+I actually prefer reading nowadays. Libgen really is fucking amazing.
+--- 93153887
+:|
+--- 93154263
+>>93151744
+GGn and ACM.
+--- 93154324
+>>93154263
+how many users do GGn have? they recruit everywhere
+--- 93154472
+>>93154263
+>Acm
+I thought they only recruited on ab
+--- 93154718
+>>93149888
+>How many -Ao releases are on OurBits?
+3000
+--- 93154772
+>>93154718
+nice, there are only 800 or so on m-t
+--- 93154796
+>>93154718
+You're not on OurBits
+--- 93154858
+Someone is offering a KG invite in PTPs invite forum. This is not a drill. GO GO GO!
+--- 93154866
+why isn't more chinks joining gpw, you guys told me they love torrenting and it would take off
+--- 93154870
+>>93154858
+If you mention /ptg/ I'll give you priority over other users
+--- 93154876
+>>93154858
+uhh, I searched KG and it says I'm out of popcorn?
+--- 93154885
+>>93154876
+make some popcorn maybe? idiot
+--- 93154888
+>>93154858
+are they offering more than a single invite?
+why do you keep posting this
+--- 93154904
+>>93153050
+I don't think she's a big fan of the current Russian gov, given she's a commie and all that.
+--- 93154955
+THC is dead for good?
+--- 93154967
+>>93154866
+they only use mobile, same for india
+--- 93155027
+>>93154967
+Stuck in 1981 much? China has the largest middle class on earth today. BMW and Mercedes now sell more than half of their cars there, I think they can afford a PC.
+--- 93155053
+>>93155027
+>BMW and Mercedes
+that's because they cannnot invest in anything other than housing so cars is the next option
+--- 93155096
+>>93149781
+My grind was over when I joined BTN and PTP almost a decade ago
+--- 93155220
+>>93155053
+You have no idea what you are talking about, do you? You know Rogers, right. He isnt allowed to invest either. KEK
+--- 93155228
+can you just download a remux and encode it to 720p or whatever and upload it to ptp?
+
+>>93150067
+pinging u as well
+--- 93155243
+>[/!\ WARNING /!\] ADVANCED USERS ONLY [/!\ WARNING /!\]
+Did you know the slow upload/pause trick chinese uploaders often use is completely ineffective?
+You can upload to another tracker so long as you have the original torrent before the original is completely uploaded!
+This works since every modern tracker adds the "source" field to the torrent, changing the hash!
+
+I would strip the announce URL and comments, other than that there is nothing wrong with re-using the torrent!
+--- 93155244
+>>93155027
+--- 93155251
+>>93155228
+Yes, of course. It has to meet the minimum standards on PTP and *could* be trumped if someone makes a GP or whatever. Not a big deal though.
+--- 93155283
+>>93155251
+oh ok sweet, thanks. i don't see any minimum standards besides it having to be x264 and mkv though...
+--- 93155314
+>>93155283
+Make it look not shit.
+--- 93155376
+>>93155220
+>You have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
+tell me where I'm wrong? their shit is unstable as fuck and they are not allowed to invest in anything outside china, so imports would be a logical step to invest in
+--- 93155579
+>>93155376
+The West has been predicting the INEXORABLE COLLAPSE OF CHINA for about 3 decades now. How about you learn the difference between Western central banking+private bank money creation vis-a-vis Chinese public banking. China has massive room for growth still, meanwhile the Occident, actually, is the one on the verge of collapse. You are parroting Fox News, I advise you to do your own research.
+--- 93155618
+>>93155228
+>pinging
+leave, discordnigger
+--- 93155631
+>>93155579
+>i just increased my net worth by 10,000% by picking up a 10 dollar bill!
+t. homeless man that thinks he is god
+--- 93155651
+>>93155618
+>he doesn't know what ``ping'' is or does
+get off /g/
+--- 93155680
+>>93155631
+Math is hard, innit? Had you invested 10 million bucks 20 years ago in China. Guess what amount you would have today? American education y'all
+--- 93155698
+>>93155651
+>he doesn't know what context is
+--- 93155703
+>>93155680
+>invest in china
+didnt know xi had a patreon
+--- 93155715
+>>93155680
+now show the per capita data
+--- 93155729
+>>93155579
+So what's your explanation for China's sky high housing prices while having entire cities completely empty, this is not from fox
+>"China’s housing prices are constantly evolving, but, as of 2021, the average new urban dwelling unit in China costs 29.8 times the average income in the country. For comparison’s sake, the average new urban dwelling unit In the United States costs 4.3 times the average income in the United States. In other words, housing in China averages around seven times more expensive as in the United States. "
+https://www.businessinsider.com/china-empty-homes-real-estate-evergrande-housing-market-problem-2021-10
+--- 93155738
+>>93155715
+sshhhhh nooo bro only cherry picked numbers
+--- 93155754
+>>93154772
+>>93154796
+--- 93155776
+>>93155680
+wow! there's other indexes but they don't look much better
+--- 93155785
+>>93155738
+>>93155729
+>>93155680
+>>93155631
+>>93155579
+>>93155376
+>>93155220
+>>93155053
+>>93155027
+Not related to private trackers.
+--- 93155795
+>>93155776
+meanwhile america
+--- 93155801
+>>93155785
+path to thread about private trackers?
+
+>>93155795
+>>93155776
+stop feeding the manlet troll
+--- 93155809
+/pol/ please fuck off, I come here to forget real world politics.
+--- 93155836
+>>93155809
+You gonna learn today boi. OK, on topic again. You will never be elite.
+--- 93155850
+>>93155800
+the problem with gdp is that it's tied up into housing you retarded nigger, houses no one lives in
+--- 93155913
+>>93155850
+Yes, all of China is a ghost city. Tell us more, microwave tv dinner gorging fatass Amerikek. Fox news always has the best lessons on economics. thats why America is doing so well right now. Enjoying your 3 jobs or still living with yer mum?
+--- 93155935
+I'm not even going to report it, it's much interesting than the usual shitposting and reddit tier questions
+--- 93155971
+>>93155913
+fuck, it's depressing what they can accomplish compared to us
+--- 93155979
+Hey /ptg/
+What program do you recommend to take several screenshots of an mkv file with info like name, size, audio and video details on top?
+--- 93156044
+>>93155913
+keep posting predictions while we can look at real index data which shows china is far behind america, you hairy hapa
+--- 93156181
+Why do people prefer mkv instead of avi these days¿
+--- 93156216
+>>93154904
+What's her name? I like the song she is singing in that video.
+--- 93156282
+>>93155979
+You can do that on mpc-hc. I did that for some emp uploads
+--- 93156624
+what's on TVV's and CG's invite forums?
+--- 93156634
+>>93155979
+mt if u want cli otherwise >>93156282
+--- 93156735
+>>93144350
+>not on btn
+--- 93156745
+>>93156624
+>what's on TVV's and CG's invite forums?
+not much. mostly unofficial invites and a few official invites to meh trackers
+--- 93156819
+Are all d3g encodes shitty? Found a blu-ray encode that doesn't look too bad but the bitrate even for HEVC seems starved
+--- 93156854
+Now understand why last thread was nuked. Fucking gooks fuck out of our private trackers discussion
+--- 93156863
+>>93156819
+they're on blu's ban list so yes
+--- 93156889
+>>93156624
+>what's on TVV's and CG's invite forums?
+nothing useful, officially
+--- 93156893
+>>93156863
+>those tags
+wow they really ran out and MFs using brackets captchas
+
+I thought Blu was barren and open sign up.. how tf do they have a banlist- don't they need all the seeders they can get?
+--- 93156896
+Does CG really not allow qbittorrent?
+--- 93156908
+>>93156896
+>Does CG really not allow qbittorrent?
+Who told you that? They don't even have a Whitelist. Most people use qBittorrent there.
+--- 93156913
+is there a way to access hdb's invite forum without giving them your phone number? (serious question)
+--- 93156917
+>>93156863
+Are there no reputable x265 groups then? What about PHOCiS?
+--- 93156932
+>>93155979
+mpc but rtorrent does it easier too and was enough back in the day
+--- 93156954
+>>93156917
+SbR
+--- 93156959
+>>93156913
+yes
+--- 93156966
+>>93156913
+>is there a way to access hdb's invite forum without giving them your phone number? (serious question)
+stop trolling and get a job, retard.
+--- 93156986
+>>93156959
+Do I need to verify my email? Why the fuck is forcing me to do 2FA. I'm not tryna have get texts everytime I sign in... radarr works so it's cool for now. so fucking gay
+--- 93156988
+>>93155979
+Like this? I use https://p.outlyer.net/vcs
+--- 93156990
+>>93156908
+They do have a whitelist but I guess it's seriously outdated?
+--- 93157023
+>>93156988
+Useless. Not her but you can do side by side with different versions. No one wants this collage
+--- 93157049
+>>93156917
+bhdstudio does x265 for their 4k encodes, not sure what their reasoning is since they use x264 for 1080p
+--- 93157057
+>>93156988
+>jpg
+ky s
+--- 93157058
+>>93157023
+great for porn
+--- 93157076
+>>93156990
+>They do have a whitelist but I guess it's seriously outdated?
+There is NO whitelist on CG. They just have a suggestion list that is outdated. You are bring trolled.
+--- 93157087
+>>93157057
+thats all a coomer needs. png is too large for EMP
+--- 93157121
+>>93156990
+>They do have a whitelist but I guess it's seriously outdated?
+CG has a blacklist, not a whitelist.
+--- 93157144
+>>93156735
+Imagine caring this much about tv
+--- 93157164
+>>93156954
+Where do they release? I'm only seeing x264 from them
+--- 93157165
+>>93156986
+2fa does not imply sms
+read him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_one-time_password
+you can use an app or even keep ass plugin on pc. it works offline
+--- 93157201
+>>93157164
+HDB. It's fucking annoying because I have a very nice 1080p TV and I get teased by 1080p releases from the 4k remasters etc to see they're fucking x265.
+--- 93157218
+>>93157165
+Google authenticator is sus though
+--- 93157286
+>>93157049
+BHDStudio is cool, I find that BHD is really lacking internal release ls outside of remuxes though. They need to remedy that
+--- 93157307
+>>93157201
+TV can't play them? A fire stick might help.
+--- 93157388
+>>93157286
+Yeah, ahd internals aren't active

g/93149906.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,47 @@
+-----
+--- 93149906
+it's finally over.
+--- 93149999
+Install NewPipe
+--- 93150034
+>>93149999
+Just stop consuming short form video content. It rots your brain, dulls your intellect, and tarnishes your soul.
+--- 93150597
+>>93149999
+their feed sucks ass
+>>93150034
+I only listen to music
+--- 93150643
+>>93150597
+Just stop listening to music. It rots your brain, dulls your intellect, and tarnishes your soul.
+--- 93150669
+Well GOOD, and I hope you don't use revanced cuz every app goes to shit once retards starts flocking in
+--- 93150684
+>>93149906 (OP)
+--- 93150790
+>>93149906 (OP)
+finally seems like a good word
+--- 93150821
+>>93149906 (OP)
+You don't have to use any third party clients to watch youtube without adverts on a android phone, though I am assuming you all know this and enjoying acting the goat.
+--- 93150914
+>>93149906 (OP)
+Doesn't work on my machine
+--- 93151056
+>>93150034
+None of us had souls to begin with, the spirit of humanity has been split into too many pieces, we're all soulless, godless beings, never able to attain even a fragment of what people who came before us had to for free.
+--- 93151163
+revanced.io/
+--- 93151207
+>>93150597
+Just type in what you want to know. Stop consoooming
+--- 93152823
+>>93149906 (OP)
+You faggots got too cocky with your shitty modded YouTube app. This is the result of it.
+--- 93155279
+>>93149906 (OP)
+Install revanced module with magisk manager
+https://github.com/j-hc/revanced-magisk-module/releases
+--- 93156062
+>>93149999
+This, also nice quads.

g/93150056.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,70 @@
+-----
+--- 93150056
+I hate apple with a passion but the iPad is probably one of the best pieces of tech currently on the market. I would never buy an iPhone or god forbid a mac, but the ipad is very comfy
+--- 93150109
+>>93150056 (OP)
+I've never seen the use case of tablets
+I either use a computer if I am at home/work or a phone if am not
+When does somebody use a tablet?
+--- 93150190
+>>93150109
+Tablets are good for pornography, security cam monitor, audio player etc
+But mostly great for pornography because of the high resolution touch screen for easy zoom etc and portability.
+Do you watch all your pornography on a desktop or mobile phone?
+--- 93150233
+>>93150109
+Honestly if you think you don't need it then you probably don't. I got it for reading ebooks and drawing, but honestly I'm surprised by how much it can do. Streaming a movie from your desktop and browsing the desktop version of 4chan in bed for example. You can argue that you could do all that shit with a laptop but again, what fucking laptop are you going to buy for $300?
+--- 93151265
+bump
+--- 93151315
+>>93150190
+If I could torrent on an ipad, i'd buy it in no time. Too bad I have to keep an actual computer for that purpose.
+--- 93152132
+bump
+--- 93152238
+I'm honestly just waiting for a 4k iPad.
+--- 93152240
+>paying a subscription to use clip studio paint
+hahaha. nope
+--- 93152330
+>>93151315
+I have a homeserver that I use for torrenting that I can manage over the web. I can add torrents and stream downloads using just my stock iPad.
+--- 93152937
+>>93151315
+Just do this >>93152330 and your life will be eternal sexo paradiso
+--- 93153336
+>>93152240
+What's the difference from procreate?
+--- 93153373
+>>93150056 (OP)
+iPad is for boomers and wagies working retail. It's a dumb, overpriced product that Apple isn't sure what to do with. And shit like the iPad Pro? If you're going to spend that much, buy a Macbook instead - at least it's still somewhat a real computer.
+--- 93153542
+>>93153373
+Agree about the Pro, but I think the base iPad 9th gen is one of the few Apple products that is fairly priced. And that's what most people will buy.
+--- 93154149
+>>93153373
+Reading and drawing is where it's at. The screen is nice and has the aspect ratio of books, so best way to read on a screen. eReaders cannot compete for me as I read plenty of pdfs and iPad is a king at performing graphic animations, unlike the slow e-ink.
+
+There is also the Galaxy Tab line is even better. And no, there are no good PC-tablets, as in ones that run Windows or Linux.
+--- 93155431
+>>93150056 (OP)
+what app is that?
+--- 93155892
+>>93155431
+Goodnotes
+--- 93156255
+>>93154149
+>There is also the Galaxy Tab line is even better. And no, there are no good PC-tablets, as in ones that run Windows or Linux.
+Androids are Linux, but a very weird one set up in a non-standard way.
+--- 93156362
+>>93154149
+The biggest issue with Android tablets is the lazy pajeet developers who refuse to optimize their apps for tablets (*cough*LibreTube*cough*).
+--- 93156388
+>>93150056 (OP)
+iPad is literally hhe worst apple product
+>muh magic mouse
+doesn't even count as a product.
+--- 93156459
+>>93150109
+>what is the use case?
+its great when you need to build stuff or cook

g/93150607.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,50 @@
+-----
+--- 93150607
+Thoughts?
+--- 93150797
+not as good as bcachefs
+--- 93150801
+obsolete, irrelevant, forgotten
+--- 93152158
+>>93150607 (OP)
+Best general purpose FS bar none. Takes huge hairy shits all over ext4, NTFS and afs.
+--- 93152510
+>Thoughts 
+Only good ones
+--- 93152534
+>>93150607 (OP)
+Seems to be the only freetard FS worth a bean.
+Probably because it isn't a freetard FS - it was invented by people who were actually competent.
+--- 93152559
+I actually use the shit out of it. It's marginally faster than Ext and works really well.
+>>93150797
+i am highly willing to use bcachefs if it ever gets upstreamed and stable (there are still known disk-corruption issues, i think in journal replay, so i really don't want to chance it right now)
+--- 93152672
+>>93150607 (OP)
+the only sane FS, probably because paid competent white devs wrote it.
+i wish it would be supported on macOS.
+--- 93152729
+>>93150607 (OP)
+Good.
+Also supports partition size increase on the fly.
+Saved my ass a couple of times when I made a too small /.
+--- 93152750
+I don't get why I'd use it over ext4
+--- 93155450
+no reason to use xfs over btrfs
+you know i'm right
+--- 93155886
+>>93150801
+This
+>>93152534
+xfs works horribly on hdds, every reboot you have to wait for everything to load up, like it's fsck on ext2.
+>>93155450
+Does btrfs still corrupt files during compilation jobs?
+>>93152750
+Preach, it might be worth while on nvmes no clue.
+--- 93156074
+>>93152750
+It's supposed to be more parallel or something, I have seen ext4 slow down the whole fs access times while working on a single file, whereas btrfs didnt.
+--- 93156186
+>>93150607 (OP)
+Head empty

g/93150832.txt

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+-----
+--- 93150832
+>be me
+>macbook is getting slow
+>sad.jpg
+>/g/ tells me to install linux
+>download linux
+>pop in usb key
+>"ok this seems easy enough"
+>install linux
+>reboot
+>go to my files folder
+>for some reason all my FUCKING FILES are gone
+>documents, photos, everything, JUST FUCKING GONE
+>now I can't even go back to macOS
+i hate you all. this is why no one uses lunix, buggy piece of garbage
+--- 93150846
+lol
+--- 93150853
+Your last attempt was better
+>>93131371 →
+--- 93150861
+>>93150832 (OP)
+iTODDLERS BTFO
+--- 93150877
+low-key linux appreciation thread
+--- 93150886
+>>93150832 (OP)
+most intelligent mac user
+--- 93150912
+>>93150877
+every old laptop I have back to a Celeron piece of shit from 2004 runs great on shittux, can browse YouTube, can browse 4chin. Meem bait threads aside, it really is the ultimate life-extender.
+though now that im not a poorfag I buy system76 and thinkpad
+--- 93151027
+Happened to me when I installed Ubuntu a whole bunch of years ago, the difference though is that I recognized it was a mistake on my part and you being a retarded Neanderthal
+--- 93151103
+Is there just one dedicated autist spamming these threads?
+--- 93151118
+>>93151103
+for me, it's the bromite schizo
+--- 93151229
+>>93150832 (OP)
+ok, i will translate this to the language of white men
+>be me, itoddler
+>apple decides to throttle my mac so tim apple can suck more dick from the money he gets from me consooming the newest, latest, gloriest mac
+>evil plan.jpeg
+>i won't buy a new one, but install an os i first heard yesterday on 4chin
+>WARNING: PROCEEDING WITH THE INSTALLATION WILL ERASE ALL YOUR FILES, MAKE SURE YOU BACK UP ALL YOUR DATA FIRST
+>this was written with a font size of 120 so the blackest blindest gorilla nigger can see it too
+>hit continue
+>NOOOOOOOOOOO, ALL MY FILES ARE GONE, THIS HIT ME COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED, BUGGY FREETARD GARBAGE, NOOOOOOOO
+holy fuck, have you thought of killing yourself?
+--- 93151494
+>>93150832 (OP)
+>>be me
+found your problem
+--- 93151661
+>>93150832 (OP)
+there is no way this isn't bait. no one is actually retarded enough to do such an install without backing up their files
+--- 93152128
+>>93150832 (OP)
+You deleted System 32.
+--- 93152785
+genuinely can't tell if it's bait because mac users are just this stupid
+--- 93153035
+>>93151229
+>white
+--- 93153145
+>>93150832 (OP)
+Aren't you joking? Holy retard. 
+Gonna sign you in my clown list
+--- 93153160
+>>93150832 (OP)
+If that's a macbook pro 8,1 I'm lowkey jealous since mine don't support coreboot
+--- 93153256
+>>93150832 (OP)
+LMAO
+have a nice day
+--- 93154669
+>>93150861
+cringe
+--- 93156195
+>>93151118
+for me, it’s the weird Eastern European guy with the mini laptop who always says “I DON’T NEED A PHONE”
+--- 93156612
+>>93150861
+based
+>>93154669
+cringe