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In Japan there is a style of martial art called Kyudo. This is ritual archery, where 正射正中, "a true shot always hits," and the emphasis is on absolutely proper form and the spiritual connection between the shooter, his weapon, and the iron thread between the shooter and his target. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT0XczNY9TU [Embed]
A gun kyudo, a more ritualistic and intuitive shooting sport, should be developed. Pistols, without sights and certainly without optics, shot with one arm, at a 14" target 100 feet away. Only proper form, stillness of hand, and an absolute connection between the shooter and his weapon would ensure a hit. This would promote concentration, and would forge a bond between a man and his handgun, making them one being.
What does /k/ think of my new martial art?
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>>57843595 (OP)
Thats what olympic shooting is, and its really fucking gay, however kyudo is based because all of the girls ive seen practice it are decently cute

>t. lives in Japan
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>>57843595 (OP)
Retarded but fun.
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>>57843607
>/k/ommando lives in Japan
That's probably more interesting than where this thread will go otherwise. What's it like for you anon?
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>>57843607
No, picrel is olympic shooting, and it is an abomination. They shoot small calibers with absolutely laughable amounts of gear/optics and zero spiritual element.
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>>57843595 (OP)
>gun in japanese is "Jū"
>Jūdo / Jūjutsu
I think there might be a problem with that term
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>>57843611
I just moved here about a month or so ago, but ive visted a bunch before. I work as an English teacher (lmao) and im planning on staying here for a year or two then becoming either a milfag pilot or an air traffic controller. 

Anyways, its pretty cool, my town is a pretty boring suburb, but theres a train station about 10 minutes away by foot where I can end up in the nearest major city in about an hour or so. I've just been wandering around the country by rail in the time ive been here and oogling the airshit in hobby shops whenever I miss my gats back home. 

Is there anything specific you wanna know?
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>>57843624
I often wonder how useful this gear is. You never hear about anything of the sort being used by combat snipers, and those guys are the ones with all the records, not these tards.
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>>57843624
That's why biathlon is the true /k/ sport. Heavy exercise combined with target shooting emulates combat conditions.
>In modern times, the activity that developed into this sport was an exercise for Norwegians as alternative training for the military. Norwegian skiing regiments organized military skiing contests in the 18th century, divided into four classes: shooting at mark while skiing at top speed, downhill race among trees, downhill race on big hills without falling, and a long race on flat ground while carrying a rifle and military pack. In modern terminology, these military contests included downhill, slalom, biathlon, and cross-country skiing
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>>57843640
How it is as a gunfag, I suppose, and how the locals respond to your interest in firearms and airshit. Do you mean a milfag pilot or ATC for the japs, or for your home nation? If for the japs, why?
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>>57843624
"all the horsemen's faces gaudy and grotesque with daubings like a company of mounted clowns, death hilarious"
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>>57843649
Why is that sign photoshopped?
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>>57843625
It would have to be "kenjūdo," "拳銃道" -- "the way of the handgun."
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>>57843659
I hide my /k/ommando power level because nips are very, very afraid of even the concept of a gun, its really strange, but a bunch of them visited my apartment when I lived in Arizona and I showed them my guns and the girls basically had panic attacks and refused to even touch them, my one Westaboo buddy held them, but the rest treated them like they were radioactive lmao. 

Also no, I'm a burger, I'm just doing this for fun and because its something Ive wanted to do for a while, and I had the opportunity, so I went for it.
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>>57843677
I should add, nips are conditioned from a young age to abhor violence. Like kids playing rock paper scissors dont slap their fist in their palm when they are playing because its percived as being violent
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>>57843674
Maybe shorted it to kendo?
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>>57843687
Oh, come on. I've also spent a lot of time in Japan, and some kids are in Judo, Sumo, and wrestling from age 5. "Martial" sports -- guns aside -- are more popular in Japan than they are anywhere else.
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>>57843692
Already exists. (It is slightly less based because of its autistic ruleset.)
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This shit better be done in 1700's dress with spark/flint/miquel/wheel/match lock guns or I am not buying
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>>57843705
Nah, Im serious, not sure what the whole thing about it is, but that's what one of my co-workers said the other day. My best guess is that with kendo/sumo/etc. is that it's in a controlled environment with certain expectations vs out in public
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>>57843595 (OP)
It already exists, the only difference is the Japanese-style ritualized training.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwC4RL-FpDE [Embed]

This style of training can however also be applied to normal firearms-training there is no need for non-ideal form to be paired with it.
e.g. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQDfwyUgtjg [Embed]
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>>57843644
no anon, military snipers don't have olympic records. where did you get that idea from? and typically if a civillian shoots someone at long range it's called 'murder' and they get put in jail or executed for it. 

you seem to be confused as to what you're actually talking about, and are conflating multiple different things. that shit is very useful for winning olympic medals; that's why they use it. they don't care about if it's useful in a military context, because they're not in the military. see how that works? 

not everything to do with guns is a call of duty larp. maybe step away from the internet for a while.
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>>57843687
>Like kids playing rock paper scissors dont slap their fist in their palm when they are playing because its percived as being violent
They don't do it because they just don't do it. It's not because adults want them not to do it because violence 
Japanese kids like to play pretend fights as Ultraman and stuff.
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>>57843898
Don't talk down to me, you fucking child. I am talking about general records concerning snipers. I am not talking about "WHOOAAAAA WHO GOT DA HIGHEST KDR!!??!" My point was the military snipers? They hold all the records related to sniping. Olympic "sniping" as you call it is only related to the sport. Which is why I fucking asked if any of their equipment had actual use in the context of actual sniping, because, you retard, sniping records can also extend to targets and hunting, not simply military contexts. Fucking dunce.
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>>57843919
Well yeah, when I say conditioned, I mean their parents yell at them to knock it off. Sorry that it came across that way, I got off work like 2 hours ago so im kinda schleepy
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>>57843687
I believe that's japs not wanting to be disruptive, something about maintaining harmony or some shit. Heard it explained once.
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>>57843677
You have jap friends? I'm surprised you found enough japs with acceptable English skills for that. Did you take the westaboo shooting at least?
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>>57843991
From what I hear, before the war they had a pretty vibrant gun culture going on, its that after losing the biggest war ever that started in part to their aggression and the years of occupation afterward, anything seen as "aggressive" became a cultural faux paus. Also yeah the cultural harmony thing has a lot to do with it. 

>>57844004
Yeah, a few, unfortunately I couldnt go shooting with the westaboo since we didnt have the time, and all of the covid lockdown shenanigans happened literal weeks after he left the states so I didnt see him for another 3ish years until I met him again in Germany. Also it's pretty easy to find at least a curious acquaintance who can speak some japanglish at you, and if reciprocate it can grow from there. My westaboo buddy was like that and 4 years after I first met him, he is what I would consider to be basically fluent.
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>>57843595 (OP)

I got you OP

https://youtu.be/-_y7PL23Cko [Embed]
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>>57844045
"Freeaboo", surely
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There's a great moral degeneration doujin about two cute sisters who practice that.
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>>57843644
It's for consistency.
All the fancy bullshit just exists so the gun shoots the EXACT same way every single time. It's just about improving consistency.

>>57843920
>military snipers? They hold all the records related to sniping.
Because olympic athletes generally don't see combat?
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>>57843640
Based adventure haver. How expensive are the high-speed rail lines?
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>>57844223
Honestly not too awful, a ride from Kobe to Tokyo (~300 miles) is roughly $110 and takes 3 hours one way. While it is cheaper to fly that, with the Shinkansen you dont need to go through airport bullshit, and you get dropped generally where you want to be, and you can take the metro/other trains to anywhere else you want to go, so I feel that the convenience is worth whatever you would save flying.
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>>57843640
how much japanese do you need in your daily life?
I'm thinking of visiting and working from japan for a bit since my buisness is home office and I've got someone that can handle the physical paperwork 
I can read katakana and a decent bit of vocab but making a coherent sentance is above me
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>>57844281
Right. I've heard it's not as cheap as people think, but that's still not bad. What's been the easiest adjustment to make?
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>>57843595 (OP)
>. Pistols, without sights and certainly without optics, shot with one arm, at a 14" target 100 feet away. Only proper form, stillness of hand, and an absolute connection between the shooter and his weapon would ensure a hit. This would promote concentration, and would forge a bond between a man and his handgun, making them one being
Minus the lack of sights, what you're describing is NRA bullseye 50 yd slowfire.
It's 10 shots in 10 minutes, 1 minute each to make sure each shot is perfect
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>>57844318
Speaking isnt super required when it comes to daily life, especially in the big cities like tokyo where most people can speak english to some extent or another. Listening though I find is super useful, I can understand a decent amount and figure out most situations through context, but I cant do much more speaking beyond some pretty simple introductions. 
My company does a bunch of the paperwork for me, so reading isnt suuuper important in my case, but I do know hira/katakana and some kanji and it does make a big difference. 

>>57844342
Easiest is finding food lol. There are a ton of familiar chains and things so if you get a hankering for a burger you can just walk into a Wendy's and get one. Also getting groceries is pretty easy because they have supermarkets all over the place here.
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>>57843920
i can guarantee you a very decent Olympic shooter will outshoot a us army or marine sniper any day of the week when it comes to shooting a paper target at a distance. 
and i can guarantee you the military sniper will outshoot an Olympic shooter in every other scenario that isn't shooting at a paper target. 
I'm sorry anon, no matter how much you love Israel's greatest military force (US military) a guy with an $8,000 custom built gun and years upon years of practicing shooting a target with said gun will out-shoot the best taxpayer-trained grunt with a rifle made by the lowest bidder, who's training consists of maybe 50% distance shooting and 50% doing non-shooting related bullshit like pushups and surviving in a forest for a week
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>>57844444
You were given quints just to draw attention to how batshit retarded your cope/bait post is
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>>57843595 (OP)
Already a thing
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C5%8Djutsu
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>>57843640
>English teacher
JETson
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>>57844807
>Reenactment
:|
>Reenactment, Japan
:O
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>>57843920
>My point was the military snipers? They hold all the records related to sniping

No they absolutely do not, lmao, a 5 second googling turned up this:

https://www.themeateater.com/hunt/firearm-hunting/7-774-yards-new-world-record-rifle-shot-set-in-wyoming

They hold the record for longest KILL-shots, of course, but that's because war is the only place where you can do that without getting thrown in jail, and war is where military snipers operate
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>>57845527
I've honestly come to respect re-enactment quite a bit. When I was young I saw it as cringe and gay, now I see it as something akin to practical history, understanding history by studying AND doing, and also giving a visual example to others of how it looked like.
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>>57843595 (OP)
While there is a bit of a spiritual aspect to kyudo, it's often grossly exaggerated. Partially because you had to if you wanted to do anything remotely martial in the late forties, and largely because an old hippie weeb who didn't know any real Japanese wrote a book about it (Zen in the Art of Archery). Unsurprisingly, said book leaves a lot to be desired: https://thezensite.com/ZenEssays/CriticalZen/The_Myth_of_Zen_in_the_Art_of_Archery.pdf
Now we do have old martial arts dealign with firearms. On the whole they are basically just matchlock handling drills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BgP_G_U0iE [Embed]

All said and done it's mostly that any practice requiring deep focus (target shooting being an obvious example) can take on spiritual undertones and the Japanese aren't shy about acknowledging that.

>Pistols, without sights and certainly without optics, shot with one arm
You're missing the point. Kyudo uses old equipment just for tradition's sake (it's not like this is going to be a practically useful skill regardless), not because making shit harder somehow makes it more spiritual. You can be as focused on your shooting with a red dot as without sights. Your way of shooting simply means you don't need as long a shooting range to see the difference between good and great shooting.

>>57843624
>They shoot small calibers with absolutely laughable amounts of gear/optics and zero spiritual element.
You're focusing on the gear, they're focusing on the target. You're not going to buy your way to enlightenment regardless of whether it's a dioptre sight or sightless pistol you bought. If you want spirituality you'll have to put your vanity to the side and look elsewhere.
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>>57843595 (OP)
Seems gay to me
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>>57845777
based and Buddha pilled
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>>57845777
>Practically useful skill 
Considering the former prime minister was just assassinated with a musket a group of heavy archers could probably bring a city to it's knees.
Unfortunately vanishingly few traditional Japanese archers use the full power bows of the past. Samurai used to have tests where you'd have to shoot over a building that physically cannot be cleared from the starting position with a bow of less than 100 pounds draw weight.
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>>57843595 (OP)
I'm in. would it be done using modern handguns or historical ones?
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Any Japanese martial-art, which all end with -do, is a watered down version of the original -jitsu martial art that was largely lost because of the Meiji Reformation when traditional Japanese arts and traditions were largely banned.
Then when high schools and/or the Olympics got involved they got even more watered-down. You're looking at a LARP of a LARP when it comes to Japanese martial-arts.
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>>57848126
Jujutsu - Judo
Aiki-jujutsu - Aikido
Kenjutso - Kendo
Kyujutsu - Kyudo
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>>57843595 (OP)
Have you seen a kyudo competition? They miss all the fucking time. All this "muh spiritual purity" bullshit is a bunch of cope that was made up in the late 19th century. I really doubt 16th century samurai gave a single solitary shit about "form" beyond your ability to hit what you're shooting at.
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>>57845777
>You're missing the point. Kyudo uses old equipment just for tradition's sake (it's not like this is going to be a practically useful skill regardless), not because making shit harder somehow makes it more spiritual. You can be as focused on your shooting with a red dot as without sights. Your way of shooting simply means you don't need as long a shooting range to see the difference between good and great shooting.
Based digits, kami-sama.
I do think, however, that the spirit of Kyudo lies precisely in its focus on form rather than its focus on piercing the target. 
Kyudo practitioners are allowed to use new equipment. Carbon fiber and fiberglass bows are far more popular (and cheaper) than old-fashioned bamboo bows. Moreover, draw weights are low in kyudo -- historical/antique war bows are much harder to draw: http://gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2017/07/yumi-japanese-bow.html
Lastly, in kyudo, you're not allowed to use any marking or tool that might help you aim. The focus is strictly on proper positioning and form. "A true shot always hits." This actually fosters a real bond between the archer and his arrow. Surely the same can be done for handguns, and not in a samurai-larp flintlock sense.
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>>57848178
>Kenjutso - Kendo
"Police kendo" is, in at least a few locations in Japan, kenjutsu + grappling. It's based. But regular kendo is lame because of a gimped set of competition rules, and modern "kenjutsu" is purest cringe.
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>>57844211
>Because olympic athletes generally don't see combat
A few biathlon shooters got caught up in Sarajevo during the sniper wars there. Apparently they did pretty well. One of them only went down because he kept camping the same spot and another one of the Biathlon guys from the other side caught on.
>t. Fry the Brain: The art of Urban Sniping and something something
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>>57848126
>Any Japanese martial-art, which all end with -do, is a watered down version of the original -jitsu martial art that was largely lost because of the Meiji Reformation
That's a bit unkind. The jitsu "art" forms are for practical war fighting, the do "way" forms are for self discovery. They're meditation aids.
They're not watered down or replacements. They serve different functions entirely.
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>>57843624
>muh small calibers
With that kind of shooting, caliber really doesn't make much of a difference outside of the wind pushing your bullet around more at a shorter range.

>with absolutely laughable amounts of gear/optics
They have an adjustable stock and a peep sight with an aperture that's adjustable rather than needing to swap apertures. Modern tactical long range shooting is more gear focused.

>inb4 the jacket is impractically stiff, when a motorcycle jacket is considered too stiff for competition use for that style of shooting
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>>57849076
> t.
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>>57843692
That's fencing
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>>57849076
They should have to kill a boar with their gun to qualify for the competition.
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>>57849076
>With that kind of shooting, caliber really doesn't make much of a difference
There's zero recoil. In real shooting, your stance is adjusted to handle recoil and your body is using a lot more muscle to brace.

When I did precision shooting in high school, the coach told us "you should feel like a blob" when in position. You use as little muscle as humanly possible. If you tried shooting a .308 while completely relaxed in a standing or kneeling position, you'd get knocked on your ass 100% of the time and you'd get the shit beaten out of you by your own gun within 10 rounds.
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>>57848126
>because of the Meiji Reformation when traditional Japanese arts and traditions were largely banned
The Meiji government banned carrying swords in public.
The McCarthy administration banned most martial arts, taking aim at kendo and judo specifically (so, you know, the -do was there already).
No one banned tea ceremony, ikebana, ukiyo-e, etc.
You need to do your homework better.

>>57848669
>the spirit of Kyudo lies precisely in its focus on form rather than its focus on piercing the target.
Same shit most of the time, since form is necessary for accuracy. The rest of the movements are just there because the Japanese like to have a script to follow.

>The focus is strictly on proper positioning and form.
Which you need to be accurate. You're largely making up a this-or-that schism where there is none so you can pretend it's all different and special and mystical.

>Surely the same can be done for handguns, and not in a samurai-larp flintlock sense.
Sure, you can take the sights off of a gun. Don't expect that to expand your mind though, only your group sizes. What kind of spirituality are you looking for if you think a few metal nubs on a gun will stand in your way? And remember, Buddha rejected both luxury and asceticism. You going on about what sights specifically a gun has here is basically just vanity.
Go listen to people who actually have found spirituality in these things and you'll notice that what they speak of is repeated practice until they no longer have to consciously think of it and intense focus so they aren't consciously thinking of anything else either. The use of tools doesn't prevent this, but nor do you need to forge some kind of bond with any tool for it either. So just like finding enlightenment in Zen Buddhism by sitting down and shutting up ( https://www.amazon.com/Sit-Down-Shut-Up-Commentaries/dp/1577315596 ) spirituality in shooting isn't going to be a matter of buying a special blessed dharmablaster, Instead just load, aim, fire.
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>>57849216
>he doesn't know
https://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/predator-hunting/airguns-feral-hogs-going-small-bore-small-boar

>>57849258
>but you have to brace for recoil
No, you really don't. Not every style of shooting needs to focus on rapid fire.

>If you tried shooting a .308 while completely relaxed in a standing or kneeling position, you'd get knocked on your ass 100% of the time
If you're a child.
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>>57849338
>https://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/predator-hunting/airguns-feral-hogs-going-small-bore-small-boar
I do know. I keep 17HMR and 22lr boar hunt videos tabbed so I can repost them here whenever people talk about caliber requirements for pigs. 

 I wasn't saying that they couldn't, I was saying that they have to.
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>>57849338
>Not every style of shooting needs to focus on rapid fire
>If you're a child
A 300 pound man will be knocked off balance by a full-power rifle if he is only using enough muscle to keep himself upright in a position optimized for idle balance. The position is the polar opposite of sturdy.
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>>57849408
>A 300 pound man will be knocked off balance by a full-power rifle if he is only using enough muscle to keep himself upright in a position optimized for idle balance
Imagine actually believing this shit.
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>>57849408
Maybe if the rifle weighed as much as a deringer, and even the that's a maybe.
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>>57849408
Have you considered shooting in a stance that's actually stable when relaxed?
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>>57843640
DO YOU GET PUSSY? ARE THEY SHAVED OR SMOOTH? ARE THEY KAWAII UWU?
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>>57849744
Why do they wear those clown suits?
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>>57849408
Anon, I'm gonna need you to post a gun with timestamp, preferably with your wrist in view so we can laugh at what a twig you are.
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>>57851009
He has a point, though. "Practical" shooting and Olympic-style shooting are extremely different. Look at the "rifle COG" in >>57849744
That's the worst possible way to hold a rifle if you need to use it in a defense or combat scenario.
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>>57843624
This is one of those sports invented just so wealthy people can join the olympics without the effort or skill
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>>57843595 (OP)
>more ritualistic and intuitive shooting sport, should be developed.
Fuck you that's gay and retarded and so is nip archery.
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>>57847795
>musket
Leave.
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>>57843595 (OP)
I try to use zen techniques for shooting
Instead of trying too hard I’ll point shoot and correct the sights and fire as if it were being done on instinct 

Not constantly trying to line up a sight which only makes me mess
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>>57852012
>the retard who is insisting you need to muscle a .308 onto target or it will knock you over has a point
No, he really doesn't. 

>b-but muh mag dumpy CQC is the only practical use for a rifle
Fuck off retard.
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Ironically, as a practical (for killing or shooting accurately) martial art, it sucks.
Not only their bows require years of practice to master, the Japanese bow is limited severely in performance by its domestically available materials, and is therefore compensated by its giant cumbersome size. It also has very short range despite this, but this means that they can maintain a small easily maintainable firing range everywhere, a contributing factor to its worldwide popularity.
It is no surprise that the Japanese were eager to immediately ditch them for Portuguese Arquebus even though there was no real spike and shot tactics in Japan.
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>>57852672
>It also has very short range despite this
Absolute nonsense. They used to test Samurai archers by having them shoot from two structural landmarks that still exist, over a building that still exists. The shot is not physically possible without a shot equal to normal warbows with draw weights over 100 pounds.
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>>57852209
How’s that worked for you?
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>>57853606
I think he's confusing low draw weight bows for kyudo with historic warbows
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>>57843607
can you do shopping for weeb shit for us? theres a missing service no one has filled for that shit. the weeb kitkats are impossible to score here for under $10 for a single minipack.
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>>57843607
olympic shooting is gay as fuck and super retarded
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>>57843595 (OP)
add rifles to the mix too. this would greatly improve instinct shooting. go for a traditional dress as well. traditional redcoats for our british friends. blue coats for the amerifats. stuff like that to keep it in line with the general theme
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>>57843595 (OP)
Rituals are faggotry. Only efficient, devastatingly effective killing is worth of admiration, not degenerate play without useful combat purpose.
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>>57843595 (OP)
You are aware there is a Japanese art of the gun, right? Hojutsu?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BgP_G_U0iE [Embed]
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>>57855855
have a cheese burger. you're not yourself when you're hungry.
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>>57850911
Make oneself more rigid. Increase stability to the point where finals had to be regularly shot without the jackets to reintroduce some form of variability, otherwise every one would go 10/10 every shot.

Only riflefags use them though, Olympic pistol is where its at.
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>>57843625
>>57843674
It exists, see >>57855856
The term is 砲術, "Hojutsu". The character 砲 is a bit more archaic, but it's the same one used for "Taiho"/"Dai-ho" (cannon/artillery, lit. "big gun"), and the same designation used for Imperial Japanese army weapons (ex. the Ho-103, the WWII era copy/clone of the M2 Browning)
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>>57843595 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BgP_G_U0iE [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7wg0OQAa2A [Embed]
Japan's way ahead of you.
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>>57845641
>He's never hunted in the midwest
Shameful, really.
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>>57845641
>1 lucky shot after 5 hours of shooting
lol, lmao.
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Japan anon here, just went into the city to go shopping for paint brushes for my 40k minis, went and oggled the airshit again, honestly buying one of these for shits and giggles sounds kinda fun.

>>57855720
Really? Theres no way that there isnt a service for that. But to be fair, those special kit kats arent all that cheap, and having to go out to don quixote to buy them in bulk, then ship them would add up quite a bit to the point where it wouldnt really be worh it unless I brought them on as a carryon next time I fly back to the US. 

However it probably would be worth if you wanted something that is either Japan exclusive or marked up a ton overseas like figurines and shit, Ive seen some stuff Ive won from an arcade for like 2 dollars sell for over 60 in the US.
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>>57856096
Hey, it's that gun!
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>>57856096
s 0yface activated
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>>57855326
Guns aren’t my original focus so I did much better after I started treating it as a martial art but with point shooting 

I like handguns and use one handed so maybe that wouldn’t work with a rifle
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>>57856083
yeah, j exclusive merch goes for big money, esp Starbucks shit. dudes make a living shipping cases to senpai in the states to sell for them. 

nintendo store fukubukuro bags. louis vuitton is like 1/4 usa price
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>>57843595 (OP)
>What does /k/ think of my new martial art?
I think you should realise that aside froma veil of mystical bullshit its principles of repeatable form via muscle memory attained via practise are exactly that of western archery as practised in FITA Olympic pic recurve and to confirm that you should actually learn archery in a FITA club and read zen and the art of archery. I will say that both the physical form of draw and of course the bows, clickets, arrow tuners, materials, fletching etc of western recurve archery are evidently more advanced and interesting and teach you even more about perfect repeatability. Even iof I wanted trad I would go longbow. Your just another worthless thousand folded weeb (unless you are actually Japanese in which case based, enjoy your national traditions)
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>>57843607
Actually good first post with insight.
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>>57856457
Holy fuck, did you even read the post? It's about adapting handgun shooting to that paradigm.
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>>57856561
Never expect basic literacy skills on the internet, you'll only get disappointed and frustrated
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>>57844444
>very decent Olympic shooter
They don't use anything above .22LR past 50 yards. If you're firing "at a distance" they're probably not hitting shit, especially if they don't have the cope-jacket and pseudo-sling set-up on hand. Olympic shooters (outside of biathlon guys, they're based) are dogshit in every situation that isn't 100% tailored to ISSF regs. But hey, if you have proof of ISSF shooters consistently hitting several hundred meter shots with a conventional ""sniping"" round, by all means post it.
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>>57843644
Olympic shooters are basically minmaxing their way to victory in their very specific field, the problem being that their 'field' is shooting small stationary targets at 10 or 25 meters with gucci .22s and all the gear money can buy. Olympic marksmen are great at what they do and the gear helps them, it's just that it's all so niche and incredibly specific that there's very little carry over to any kind of practical application. If you gave them an iron sighted 10/22 and told them to shoot a bottlecap at 25 meters could they do it? Very likely. Could they take out a boar running at 300 meters with a rifle caliber rifle outfitted with a scope? Entirely different ball game to what they're used to, probably not.
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>>57848816
sauce on pic?
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>>57857635
Looks like Grisaia.
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There are already many branches of competitive shooting, all of which require discipline to excel at to the point they might as well be martial arts.
Accuracy and form above all else:
 - Olympic rifle & pistol
 - Bullseye (with variations of equipment, range, and stances)

Speed with acceptable accuracy under simulated stress:
 - Biathlon
 - "Brutality" competitions
 - USPSA / IPSC (freestyle, you are given a stage and you clear it how you want)
 - IDPA (more like executing a kata, you run the stage exactly as prescribed)
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>>57856561
Not him but no
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>>57857806
Does any of those involve point shooting?
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>>57858154
Practical shooting stages can but often don't.
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>>57843625
>He's ignoring pitch accent
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>>57844045
>Faux paus. 
Everybody point and laugh at the stupid Gaijin, kids.
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>>57848816
I vaguely remember it came up in Nagano or SLC because some of the competitors were stacking bodies in the war and then went back to competition once things settled down.
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>>57855855
Sorry, symbolism is a human thing, a drone wouldn't get it.
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>>57857806
I want zen added, I want it to be to the point where you’re shooting in what’s practically an altered state of consciousness where you’re a point shooting machine
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>>57860038
In all seriousness, shooting without sights would teach you to be absolutely hyper-autistic about your grip and wrist positioning, so even without the zen, it would develop good handgun shooting habits.
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>>57856464
Isn't this book mostly bullshit written by someone who isn't even Japanese?
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>>57845777
>and largely because an old hippie weeb who didn't know any real Japanese wrote a book about it (Zen in the Art of Archery)
is this like the fucking Ninja thing where the concepts regarding modern ninjas were invented in the 60's/70's by some larper otaku?
How many times has this happened
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>>57862820
Anon, it's about the experiences of someone who isn't Japanese who took up Kyudo while in Japan.
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>>57862885
There is an authentic Japanese ninja tradition, but it's nothing like the 80s-90s bullshit
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>>57843595 (OP)
this "muh spiritual connection with muh gunz" is such homosexual faggotry. a gun is a tool, a weapon, an ooga booga stick that goes boom, it is not a living thing or a being, it is not a spiritual thing. it is a weapon designed to kill people. you are completely full of fucking shit and obviously a touch starved loser psycho if you think your gun is somehow magical or le deep. get a real connection with another human being and stop worshipping your guns like a nutcase
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>>57864361
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>>57864361
>get a real connection with another human being and stop worshipping your guns like a nutcase
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>>57848816
Aren't most of the stories in that book at least partially fabricated? He goes off on a anime monologue about how he knows who the sniper is because he was clearly just shot at with a mauser and there are only like 7 mausers in the country, one of which was sporterized and used by that guy, which is so stupid and unlikely that it wraps around to being funny.
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>>57864361
No
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>>57864361
Respect and honor your gear anon
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>>57843607
This. It's retarded except for the cute girls in cute uniforms. 

>MUH archer's spirit folded over 9000 times
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If you want a gun to shoot with the mindset of practicing an art, you won't regret getting a good single action revolver like pic related
The SAA in particular intuitively points the best, has unmatched ergos, and its cartridge is more than enough to make the most of each shot
With training, you absolutely will fire the first shot and land it at even 75+ yards
It is also meant to be wielded with one hand having been designed for cavalry use, the plow handle aids in this regard, and by attuning yourself to it the SAA will elegantly roll with the recoil of each shot
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>>57843595 (OP)
>thread mentioning pistols shot with one hand
>a method of shooting using no sights
>just going off instinct
>not one reply with webm related for TWO DAYS
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This exists and it's called gunkata 
Go watch equilibrium and learn the ways of a Tertranomicin Cleric
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>>57872606
Yknow since this system was designed specifically off of analysis of the shot patterns of the mostly untrained savages with AK outside the city, I'm wondering if you could more or less short circuit a cleric's brain by simply breaking the pattern in some strange way, like training your men to drop to the floor and shoot from prone, or aim at the pelvis instead of the head and chest.