----- --- 2588241 I don’t like breathing in chemicals and I’m not very stronk and have bad joints. I was thinking hvac or electrician but not sure. --- 2588248 Fluid transportation and depost --- 2588249 >>2588241 (OP) onlyfans --- 2588259 >>2588249 OP could also buy power tools and mount dildos to them. would make for interesting OF content --- 2588270 >>2588249 Is that really a trade? --- 2588280 I need serious answers this isn’t B --- 2588281 >>2588249 Yeah building electric fans is an honest job, good idea --- 2588286 >>2588241 (OP) You know the deal. Tits or GTFO --- 2588292 >>2588259 Its been done --- 2588300 >>2588292 >Its been done There are no new ideas under the sun. --- 2588328 >>2588241 (OP) Find a husband and have his children. Keep the house, raise the kid(s). THAT'S YOUR FUCKING TRADE --- 2588336 >>2588328 Not interested --- 2588338 >>2588241 (OP) Yeah, the first time you have to haul an AC unit or furnace across a job site you'll stop thinking of hvac as a plausible trade. Honestly, if you want to join the trades, heavy lifting and shitty repetitive work comes with the territory. Not trying to be rude but it really is a matter of fit in or fuck off. --- 2588345 >>2588328 Literally THIS. Being a housewife and stay-at-home mom is the best job in the world. >be me >get kissed by husband when he leaves for work and drops our daughter to super nice private high school >wake up in the morning hours and drink a coffee in my comfy living room full of things i've quilted, books my family has read, and random things we've collected on nature walks >do hour-long workout to be healthy and fit >make sure other kid is up and doing his homeschooling, check his stuff, answer his questions >cook brekky for homeschool kid >shower and put on a cute dress and makeup >sew something, or work on prepping sewing stuff >cook lunch for the two of us and keep him on track with schoolwork >gaming for a couple of hours, or reading books, maybe 15 min power nap >pick up kiddo from school and have mother/daughter chats in the car on the drive home >computer stuff: find dinner recipes, browse the chans, discord chat with frens >cook healthy yummy din din >get kiss and butt-pat from husband when he gets home from work. tell him to stop stressing about work; he's home now >eat din din around the table; or sometimes husband watches SG1 with the kiddos over dinner, and i do computer stuff >clean up kitchen from cooking >gaming with frens or kiddos or both, or read books, or sewing prep; maybe fold laundry and watch movie on ipad >pray with senpai in the evening >talk with kiddos, make sure they get showers and stuff before it gets too late, tell them to tidy their rooms >jammy time; cbd sleepy gummies time >wash face and do korean paper face mask, or otherwise korean face beauty routine >make sweet love to husband and tell him how much I love him as he immediately passes out when his head hits the pillow >fall asleep solving the next day's NYT crossword puzzle or reading on my kindle If you're a woman and not interested in living your days in bliss, then idk what to tell you. Go get a grimy, sweaty, back-breaking tradie job then. --- 2588357 >>2588336 You're destined for unhappiness. --- 2588394 >>2588345 This post was not written by a woman >>2588357 Not my fault I’m not interested in being an abused slave who has to give birth (literally disgusting) --- 2588397 >>2588357 You know tons of women kill themselves shortly after giving birth, right? --- 2588400 >>2588280 this isn't what --- 2588402 >>2588394 >Not my fault I’m not interested in being an abused slave who has to give birth (literally disgusting) From this phrase alone I can tell you right away you're too low IQ to learn a trade within your lifetime --- 2588405 >>2588402 >your opinion differs from mine therefore you’re low iq My iq is much higher than most people who have kids, it’s significantly above average >>2588400 /b/ --- 2588408 >>2588405 >>your opinion differs from mine That's not what I said --- 2588418 >>2588405 >claims to be of high IQ >wants non labor intensive employment without exposure to chemicals >thinking about electrical or hvac Oh, women. --- 2588430 >>2588345 based --- 2588460 >>2588241 (OP) Low-voltage electrical and try to work your way up to networking and systems? I'm not a low-voltage electrician, just a salaried IT and data professional who gladly indulges her penny-pinching bosses with a little a physical labour to make my job more interesting. But running data cabling isn't terribly difficult or challenging work. And if, as I said, you start picking up the skills to design and plan networking layout (including the active devices like switches, routing, and wifi), then there are decent career options out there for that. And anything telecom/ISP seems to be bustling work. The actual work will involve a lot of ladders and performing work above your head. That's usually what "gets me" when I DIY it rather than bring in a contractor, it just fucking sucks putting screws into a ceiling by hand. As for loads and lifting, a 1000ft spool of high-quality commercial networking cable is about 50 lbs, so I'd aim for being able to lug that around if your employer is too cheap to give you smaller spools to wind it onto. You might also have to position server racks and their contents (including holding up for wall mounting). Again, not my career, but it's fun stuff whenever I have the excuse to do it. --- 2588463 >>2588394 >>>2588345 >This post was not written by a woman I think that post was written by a tranny who wishes to be a modern version of an idealized 1950's housewife, but the problem is that his whole concept of what being a woman is like is actually a complete fantasy and it still doesn't matter because he'll never be one anyway. He's going to be unloved, undesired, and alone until the day he dies. >>2588394 >I’m not interested in being an abused slave Please go outside, touch grass, and get a fucking grip before you turn into a hateful and lonely middle aged spinster. I realize that you've been programmed to be a broken person, but noone else is going to fix you--- you're going to have to do it for yourself. --- 2588470 >>2588241 (OP) Learn to make jewelry and sewing. --- 2588479 >>2588241 (OP) Assuming homemaker is out of the question (because you're ugly) go for surveyor. >Outdoors all of the time. >Low to medium psychical labor >Only chemicals are occasional bulldozer exhaust and fresh AC >Pays well >Can transfer into the office without college Easy as fuck, just look for an apprenticeship and show up in actual workboots. You do need to be smart enough to do basic algebra, loads of the backend math is trig and they expect you to learn it. --- 2588480 >>2588336 Not very high iq of you --- 2588481 >>2588241 (OP) None. Not kidding. Join the military for a vastly better working environment. Air Force for quality of life unless completely retarded. --- 2588482 >>2588280 you know the rules. --- 2588484 >>2588280 The serious answer is you're a miserable person and no one wants to work with you or marry you. Stop being so mean and self aggrandizing --- 2588487 >>2588241 (OP) Data center tech or telecommunications tech. Both are very clean working environments that don't require a lot of heavy lifting. You don't need a four year degree and the culture is accepting of women. Only downside is you will have to bundle up to keep those joints warm. Both jobs involve working in cool environments. Bonus points: you could theoretically get a job working for NASA and that's just neat. --- 2588491 >>2588487 Telecom techs hate women tlwjat the fuck are you talking about. Useless cunts never climb poles or pull wire without calling the boss and asking a man to come carry their dead fucking weight. --- 2588495 >>2588345 >NYT crossword puzzle THIS alone proves that you are a pos liberal and not worthy of a decent life --- 2588499 >>2588241 (OP) bro if you can trade an inflatable chair for a woman, i say go for it --- 2588500 >>2588491 I'm talking about the higher paying technical side of this work. This is the day to day operations of telecom equipment, not installation. --- 2588504 >>2588394 >>2588463 No, that's literally my average day. I very much have a womb, I have ovaries, I have eggs but probably less now that I'm in my 30s. My husband validates my housewife existence. My parents are proud that I'm raising two very healthy well-adjusted kids. Men somehow still find me attractive and can't believe my kids are teenagers. My bone structure is a perfect hourglass shape, because I refuse to become a dumpy old poor excuse for a wife. My husband doesn't drink often, but when he does, we have a really wild time in bed. I am happy every single day of my life. My smiles are genuine and plentifully bestowed upon my husband and children. The only unbearable weight that threatens to crush me is joyful bliss. If I do buy roping, it is for various home decorating projects or my backyard garden trellis to further beautify my comfortable home. My proud parents are visiting for Easter to have a wonderful time with me and my family. My body will decay and turn into dust at some point, that is true, but my children will be there to pray at my grave for my eternal soul. This is my fate, and it is wonderful! Housewives are not abused slaves; they are lovingly supported by their appreciative husbands. Birth is beautiful if you avoid unnecessary medical interventions. I know plenty of families, and not a single woman has killed herself "shortly after giving birth"--where does that even come from? Touch grass indeed. >>2588430 Thanks anon. My day varies a lot when the weather gets warmer. Lots more gardening, and this year I want to learn how to put down pavers to make a little patio near my deck. I also like going out and taking photos of flowers and then trying to do ink and watercolors of the flowers. Also: sporting clays! Yeah, I do have some obligations here and there to drive my kids to activities and whatnot, but by and large, my days are so free for me to do whatever I want. I don't know how any woman wouldn't want to spend her days like this. --- 2588510 >>2588495 I hate the NYT with all my soul, but Will Shortz is a great crossword editor, and the NYT crosswords are the undisputed gold standard of challenging crosswords. And I have done thousands of crosswords. It sucks that it has to come from the NYT, but it is what it is. Please start a based crossword that doesn't have pozzed clues and words and is at the same level of challenge, and I will gladly switch. --- 2588539 >>2588504 I mean, good for you. But you came into a thread where a woman was asking about career advice and went "lol, don't be a filthy dyke." Like, come off it. Some of us would happily get sterilized at 25 if surgeons weren't disgusting fucking pigs who refuse to believe a white woman knows she never wants to have children while at the same happily sterilize "undesirables" based on the consent they give while still fucked up on the epidural. --- 2588545 >>2588249 https://youtu.be/U5ZACHBNkvE [Embed] --- 2588546 >>2588539 They did that to my white mother. You literally aren't living a fulfilling life. You have no idea what life even is. You are a child. Just fyi. --- 2588551 >>2588546 And your life is completely fucked if your husband leaves the picture. Remember to read the fine print on that life insurance. Just fyi. --- 2588561 >>2588551 The amount of brainwashing the soviets were able to push into the rest of the world is amazing. E joy your antinatalist world --- 2588580 >>2588241 (OP) >Best trade for a woman? I don't understand. This is a DIY forum, not a classified ad forum. Plus, I don't think you can just trade a woman. Isn't that slavery? This is so confusing. --- 2588686 >>2588241 (OP) This thread really reminds me how lucky I am that I never have to work with women. Thanks OP T.HVAC tech --- 2588703 >>2588270 one of the oldest i'd say --- 2588715 This is why we have fucking rules. You show your tits. You post timestamp. Or you GET THE FUCK OUT! --- 2588717 >>2588241 (OP) Marriage and Motherhood. --- 2588734 >>2588397 >You know tons of women kill themselves shortly after giving birth, right? Define tons Yes its happened but it is rare as fuck Even female suicide is rare , five times as many men commit sudoku compared to women Also you are not a woman --- 2588737 >>2588510 You might not be a real woman but you are damn sure a cruciverbalist Do you ever hang out in the comment section of the rex parker blog? --- 2588756 >>2588737 Nah, I only really go to the rexdoestheNYT if I am suuuuper super stumped on a really old crossword that has a specific trendy time-relevant clue or word in it. Like I am on a streak of 338 puzzles right now (set a new time record for yesterday's puzzle in fact!), and I have done all of the puzzles from current day, working backwards, to June of 2016 so far..... When I finish the new xword, I just go backwards in the calendar archive and do them backwards in time: Sa, then F, then Th, then W, then Tu, then M, then Su --and I've noticed some interesting dynamics with clues and how it goes when the increasingly difficult week goes increasingly easy backwards. Anyway, I just solve the old puzzles until I fall asleep. You run into some really obscure stuff from 7 years ago that is no longer relevant today. Also, it's a whole lot less faggy back then too! Highly recommend older crosswords. --- 2588760 >>2588734 >you are not a woman Any peer-reviewed studies to back this claim? --- 2588772 >>2588539 >Lol don’t be a dyke If you can’t handle a WOMAN calling you out for being an obsessive feminist, you will not survive as a tradie. The only reason women survive an office environment is air conditioners and HR departments. As an HVAC tech, you will have a bunch of drooling apes plotting to bang you. As an electrician, you will be mocked and treated like a child. The fact that you think electrical and hvac are comfy jobs that don’t require lifting heavy shit and getting your hands dirty means that you’re only interested in trades because: >I just want to be like the boys teehee Or >$$$$ :) There’s a reason the only women in trades are dykes. Any well adjusted woman with a brain would stay away. I can’t imagine being a homeowner who has to decide whether he should pay 1000s of dollars to replace his furnace by a woman, or 50$ to pay some meth head off of Craigslist. Have fun trying to compete with Cletus and Jamal. --- 2588773 >>2588504 You’re posting here and bullying other women only proves you’re actually miserable and trying to convince yourself you didn’t fuck your life up --- 2588776 >>2588773 >>2588760 >>2588551 >>2588539 >>2588405 >>2588463 >>2588397 >>2588280 >>2588241 (OP) Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl. >mfw thinking of you hurting --- 2588787 >>2588241 (OP) Well, it all depends on what you can handle. In most trades it’s common practice to give a new technician spankings if they can’t handle the workload. >Unable to braze 2 copper pipes together Sorry kid, pull down those knickers. Your supervisor Ivan Grigircz is going spank until it hurts >can’t lift 50+ lb chiller flange You better believe old man Wither’s Crusty old hand is waiting. This is the first thing they teach when you join the unions. --- 2588811 Isn’t there a law in the US where you need a certain number of women in the workforce? Like you need a certain percentage of blacks or mexicans I think. We have something similar here, where you need a certain amount of french going on, and we get tax benefits. --- 2588821 >>2588776 Wtf did you just say about bread? --- 2588896 >>2588773 Not her but it's not bullying, it's calling you a giant retard, which is objectively true. --- 2588907 >>2588896 Actually only low iq women have children --- 2589176 >>2588756 >Highly recommend older crosswords. Oh ive done them all the back nearly 20 years You should come hang out in the comment section, its great for discussing the puzzle and especially fun for those of us that like to do the puzzle the day before No one there really gives a fuck about the Rex blog, we have our own thing going Have a look , you might dig it --- 2589178 >>2588907 This is of course not even close to being true. --- 2589190 >>2588241 (OP) I know women that do crafting. Some even get really into it with CNC machines, embroidery machines, and 3d printers. I also have a female cousin that did what she called "yard sale-ing", she would buy stuff on craigslist and FB for super cheap and sometimes free.... And have a yard sale every weekend to resell the stuff she picked up. I also met a gal who did roofing. She joined her husband's family business and did the cleanup work (making sure they didn't leave behind screws and such all over the ground), but she would also help in other ways, she just wasn't as good as the other stuff like the guys were. >>2588249 Only fucktards would suggest/support such a vile company. >>2588345 Man, that sounds so blissful to me. Our kids are all still very young, we have 4 kids under 6years old and we plan to have a few more in the future and to homeschool all of them, so our house is pretty chaotic most of the time. The 5 year old is getting to be a little more independent, but the younger kids need near-constant entertainment... >>2588504 I would argue that birth is NOT beautiful lol. After 4 kids, 3 of which were home births, I would not use the word beautiful. Intense and uniquely satisfying would be the best I can call it, but I also know women who had aweful deliveries and they would call it traumatizing, so I try not to push the whole "birth is beautiful" mantra because I know it's not beautiful to everyone. >>2588551 Hopefully she and her husband are not so reckless as to assume he will always be around. She mentions that she has family that is proud of her and her family. I imagine if her husband were to die in a freak accident or something, they would support her until she secured a job and got back on her feet.... >>2588772 Truth. And don't expect the lower IQ tradies to be kind enough to get consent... They'll just wait til they can get you drunk --- 2589205 >>2588241 (OP) switchboard electrician, specifically control wiring control panels and smaller distribution boards you just stand there all day wiring complex boards. can be quite monotonmous but perfect for autism. i lean towards busbar construction, as i enjoy the heavy lifting and math needed. some manafactures do all or specialize, just need to do some research --- 2589206 >>2589205 feel free to ask any questions, i did my apprenticeship in the industry and occasionally go back to it because its basically industrial lego with wires --- 2589291 >>2589205 >>2589206 Not OP but goddamn that shit is beautiful. Makes my fucking around with networking racks look like fuck all. --- 2589315 >>2589206 >>2589291 This is now a fusebox appreciation thread. The mechanic from our firm did this in his spare time for me, and even brought his own drinks because he didn't want to "hydrate on my dime". This ain't even all of it yet but I can't help but smile when I look at this fucking beast. --- 2589317 >>2588241 (OP) I traded mine for a newer model --- 2589330 >>2589315 Sudden urge to post my diy gore wiring --- 2589414 >>2589291 >>2589315 some of experienced guys i worked with would even make sure no cables were crossing over even under the duct covers. i never had the patience for that level of autism, but it was nice to see. i was the compliance tester at one point though, was fun spending an afternoon with someone elses' works with pages of line drawings making sure everything was working. made you feel pretty boss --- 2589421 this was a pump control board for a ship. i think was the last panel at last job. sexy stuff god i wish i took more photos. --- 2589471 Guys, OP is not a real woman and never will be. all fields --- 2589683 >>2588241 (OP) Sex --- 2589870 >>2589317 same, brother traded in my '83 domestic model for a smaller, lower maintenance '99 filipina with much lower mileage and never looked back --- 2590938 >>2588292 On this very board --- 2591007 >>2588241 (OP) if you're good at convincing people that they want red rather than blue or blue rather than red be a painter. reupholstery is also decent. --- 2591021 >>2588241 (OP) Probably an electrician. Plumbing involves bending over and kneeling enough for joints to act up in normal people. Dry wall involving breathing in enough dust to coat your twice over. Concrete involving bending over and working with sludge mixed with lye. In framing you have to literally lift walls and wood beams regularly enough that if you see a fat framer they tend to be on drugs or very good at fucking off when it's time to stand walls. No clue about hvav but I've seen plenty of fat plumbers and electricians on job sites so it shouldn't be too physically intensive compared to the other trades. The pay is also higher, but the requirements are higher as well. A pretty good rule of thumb I've learned is the more physically intensive, the lower the pay, and the lower the entry requirements beyond speak any language with possible literacy the more likely you are to have South Americans and Mexicans doing it --- 2591028 >>2589190 >to be kind enough to get consent... there is that fag talk again --- 2591059 >>2588241 (OP) Showing up to job sites with a food truck --- 2591111 >>2588345 Private girls highschools are just brothels for other schools. We had a private highschool in my city that was Catholic, so naturally the girls were known for giving good blowjobs. That's before they even get to college. Be careful. --- 2591112 >>2591111 Happy for you though, don't even understand how women fall for the wage labour is liberating meme. --- 2591216 >>2588241 (OP) >best trade for a woman I'd take a large sack of potatoes or a small woven rug. Really I'd pay to get her off my hands so don't call my bluff. Really though if you weren't completely restart to being around chemicals then maybe instrument mechanic. You might have some 2nd hand exposure but it's not a primary job function like spraying insecticide or paint. Steel mills, refineries, chemical plants, powerstations(nuclear, coal, diesel, NG), water treatment plants, pipelines, pumphouses, etc. You work on different electronic measuring devices like temperature probes, pressure sensors, chemical analyzers. Installation, maintenance and calibration. Worked at a plant for a while that had 8 instrumentation people and 3 were women. Aaron far as hands on work goes I see a higher percentage of women do that than anything else at plants I go to(aside from hole or fire watch) and second after that would be plant/boiler operators but if you don't want chemical exposure that's not the route you want to go. --- 2591274 >>2590938 Im interested. Got an archive link anon? Fuck this stupid cunt hijack the thread and teach us of the days past. --- 2591285 >>2588241 (OP) kitchen work, gardening, hospitality, cleaning. manufacture small personalized stuff to sell --- 2591288 >>2588336 You are turning down the only job in the world where you pay no taxes, all your personal necessities are guaranteed, and your boss literally loves you to the point that he'd die for you or your children. --- 2591352 >>2588405 You're 90 IQ at best (AKA peak midwit). The sooner you realize this the better. Look at kids who became chess grandmasters at the age of 10, those are geniuses. When you were 10 you were drooling like a retard. --- 2591377 >>2588241 (OP) Try becoming a florist. You say you're not very strong and don't like breathing in chemicals. Little of that as a florist. I as a guy am looking into becoming one. Comfy af and people always want flowers for bdays/weddings/mother's day. It's also a job dominated by women(something like 80 to 90% in Germany) so you don't need to be berated by macho boomers if you work for someone else --- 2591933 >>2588811 >certain amount of french Two questions: How do you like your poutine and did you vote for Québec sovereignty? --- 2592176 >>2588280 Just work assembly like I do. Lot of old Guatemalan women there who put grown men to shame with their work ethic. --- 2592197 >>2588241 (OP) Network technician --- 2592207 >>2588241 (OP) >I don’t like breathing in chemicals and I’m not very stronk and have bad joints. HVAC isn't for you then. You'll get to breathe in plenty of fun chemicals like coil cleaners, refrigerants, gas, etc. You also get to ruin your back and knees doing exciting things like lifting 200lb compressors into units, hauling equipment in and out of houses and up and down stairs, climbing your fat ass up onto rooftops, and on and on. Plus you'll be working with mouth breathers who will give you shit all day long when they're not sexually harassing you. Women have no business in HVAC. --- 2592214 >>2588241 (OP) Work at subway or other sandwich shops. Become amazing at making sandwiches --- 2592359 >>2588270 They trade their dignity for money* so yeah. (*until they hit the wall then even their bodies are useless for anything) --- 2592469 >>2588907 Then how do we have high IQ people? --- 2592573 >>2591216 I was going to say this too, the only thing with instrumentation is that sometimes you have to calibrate scales with huge weights up to 1000kg or take control valves off pipework but nobody would expect someone to do that if they didn't feel comfortable with it. If you work in a clean room you will be inhaling a lot of IPA / sporeicide and crap like that but overall it's probably the best one for women and people who don't want to break their back, though it's not completely perfect. --- 2592596 >>2588405 >My iq is much higher than most people who have kids this is some significant roastie cope --- 2592668 >>2588241 (OP) >I’m not very stronk and have bad joints. That doesn't improve with age. No workarounds exist. Work is for money not fun. Do tradey hobbies for greater physical longevity. --- 2592755 >>2588280 >>>/qa/ --- 2592949 if all yall in this thread are actually cis women (you know who you are) I just want you to know that you are SO much worse than trannies lmao --- 2592997 >>2588345 Heeeeeeyyyy little girl, fix your hair and your maaaaaaakeup --- 2593013 >>2588241 (OP) great thread awesome thread over 9000 jimmies rustled! EPIC WIN --- 2593014 >>2588345 ywnbaw --- 2594960 >>2591274 https://archived.moe/diy/thread/2268180/#q2346961 this was a good thread --- 2595007 >>2594960 Aw i thought you were gonna find the one with the robot arm --- 2595315 >>2589190 your convo is why i stealthscrote on crystalcafe sometimes anons there seem to have legitimate conversations more often nice to hear not everyone that uses/has used this site is a total mess maybe i can be that too --- 2595332 >>2588241 (OP) electricians need to be strong and tough. are you strong and tough? like can you lift 40-120 lb objects and work with guys that can do that easily for 9-12 hours a day while listening to really bad music on the radio? --- 2595690 >>2588241 (OP) cabinetry unironically. very particular, not too heavy, always in need, especially repairs. I believe in you anon! --- 2595710 >>2594960 >she's actually not fat Must have a face like a shovel then --- 2595711 >>2588345 kys tranny --- 2595924 Best trade for a woman is learning to suck a man's dick --- 2596091 >>2595924 Very true, and history shows this. --- 2596297 >working makes me happy >no you can't work you gotta make babies in order to be happy or you regret it >my happyness is the only way because it works for me Sometimes I hate this website for dumb conflicts like this threads. Everybody fucking chill. --- 2596343 >>2588241 (OP) Make and sell cumbikes like the other /diy/ femanon --- 2596345 >>2588241 (OP) >Best trade for a woman? It's illegal to sell or trade people. --- 2596392 >>2596297 Yeah I remember all those lifetime movies about big powerful male executives so happy that they ignored their families at Christmas time to make more money. There's three things that make people happy, money is not one of them once you're past 65k a year. Your career, if it's fulfilling. Not just the money you.make in it. How it makes you identify and the community it brings you into and the people you help doing it. Your family. Uh oh. Even men love their family and women about 10% more than men. And women have a much more strict timer, like if you haven't had a baby by the time your 30 you almost definitely will not have one for one reason or another. Like you're too frigid or there are no good men left in the age brackets you're attracted to. Your community. Helping and being involved in your community --but I aspire to or genuinely am completely selfish. I just want to watch movies. I am definitely not going to be a miserable catlady in my 50s even though everyone older, smarter, and with more life experience than me tells me I definitely 100% will. I am super woman. I am super smrt gonna enjoy my miserable loneliness. We need to stop lying to women and telling them they can be successful strong single men when that even makes men fucking miserable. Op is not the one in 100 girl that is actually going to be happy like that. She's just a basic bitch like everyone else You know what else? You van actually have a career after you have kids. There's no timer on that. --- 2596562 >>2588241 (OP) Tell you what, throw in a six pack with that chair and I'd say that's a pretty good trade for mine. --- 2596573 >>2588241 (OP) Mothering --- 2596576 >>2596392 >but I aspire to or genuinely am completely selfish. I just want to watch movies. I am definitely not going to be a miserable catlady in my 50s even though everyone older, smarter, and with more life experience than me tells me I definitely 100% will. I am super woman. I am super smrt gonna enjoy my miserable loneliness. this hits too close to home, and I'm a dude. Spent my early 20's blowing off the idea of kids since 'I'd rather have free time and money'. My attitude was definitely a factor in my ex leaving me. Chased my material dreams, now I'm in my 30's, solid career making more than I need to live comfortably, living in a state where I had no existing friends or family, all to come home to an empty house. Finally dawned on me when a buddy asked what my plan was at 70+ years old, where the best outcome is dying before your spouse, if you even have one. I fantasize about quitting my job constantly, I'm growing more and more anti-social and angry by the day. The career path leads to nothing. --- 2596581 >>2596392 >We need to stop lying to women and telling them they can be successful strong single men when that even makes men fucking miserable. Wise post. It makes these women even more miserable. For they'll end up glorified secretaries in their 40s working useless "Director of People Management" paper pushing jobs in HR, wondering where their youth and beauty went and when they'll finally be CEO Of Everything. With no family to feed which is the thing that makes it kinda sorta bearable for men. They'll also make most men miserable because throughout their life they'll shun every man but the CEO because as a Director they deserve more! --- 2596585 >>2596573 >Mothering Yeah. I respect women who chose to be mothers a lot more than some pantsuited, backstabbing office politics harpy. It's not a small feat for a woman to chose being a mother either. All the harpies in her life will scream, bully and belittle her for choosing the option they deep down know will make her a lot happier than they themselves can ever be in the long run. --- 2596593 >>2596585 One more reason to do it --- 2596595 >>2596576 >I fantasize about quitting my job constantly, I'm growing more and more anti-social and angry by the day. The career path leads to nothing. It certainly does. I moved back to where I grew up at least. Comfy to be speaking my native dialect again. "quit" that career, with quite a bang, too (got cancelled for wrongthink because I was bored enough to post a couple of mild, not even close to /pol/ tier redpills in work channels). Still anti-social, angry and childless but at least I no longer need to quietly glower at another HR video conference where some HR cunt is preaching the virtues of the holy rainbow fag flag. --- 2596597 >>2588345 >as a female --- 2596772 >>2591352 >AKA peak midwit Midwit means someone bright but not brilliant , say 115 to a mensa scraper 90 is just about retarded --- 2596807 >>2588241 (OP) Hair dresser Nurse Teacher --- 2596825 >>2596772 Midwit means someone with mediocre intellect who does everything in his power to appear intelligent --- 2597135 >>2588249 HR is also acceptable. --- 2597609 >>2588345 i lived basically as a housewife when i was between college and highschool. spent all day cleaning up, tending to animals, and watching tv. i didnt have any purpose to life besides waiting on my family to get home. i wanted to kill myself. congrats to you anon if this isnt a copypasta but not everyone is content to live life that way --- 2598072 >>2597609 You weren't doing a very good job cleaning up or you didnt have kids. It's a lot of work. You don't have 40 or even 20 hours spare a week if you're not fucking off eating bonbons all day. --- 2598096 Don't become an electrician. I'm in your same position and made that mistake, and now I'm in too deep to back out. The work is miserable and mismanaged, 50 year old men will point at you while talking to men your age and talk about "setting you two up", nobody will ever respect you even when you're up against literal crackheads they constantly and openly discuss firing, and you will never be allowed to do actual electrical work while half your bosses baby you and the other half actively gives you the hardest work possible rather than just being realistic about your abilities. I have had bosses who act like I don't know how to wire a 3-way switch five years in, and others who berate me for not being able to hook up a switchgear from start to finish without a single print or layout, or for being able to pull 1000 feet of 2/0 off the reel from the other end of the pull, by hand, by myself. It sucks. Don't do it. Get an office job. --- 2598204 >>2598096 >My job is hard The absolute state of women. --- 2598211 >>2598204 >Is this job easy? >No >Heh... time to insult women... --- 2598213 >>2588773 >bullying other women that's how you identify a real woman --- 2598217 >>2589206 >>2589421 hey you wanna fix this panel for me? --- 2598220 >>2598217 Yes but you wouldn't pay me or allow for the potential downtime. --- 2598221 >>2598211 >she's still whining even though i let her have the electric pump. --- 2598234 >>2588241 (OP) Car electrician. Good ones are in high demand. You'll be respected for being a competent woman in this field. Having smaller hands will benefit you in many ways - as guys who are crazy about cars usually have "man" hands and are unable to reach wiring effectively inside cramped spaces. You won't need to carry heavy shit. The working environment is relatively safe. DIY fixers will be on their way out too, since the next generations are raised on globohomo phones. Cars increasingly have more and more gadgets/automation inside them that's gonna need fixing. I'm rambling but whatever. --- 2598235 >>2598220 hey I work for a prestigious top 10 dairy product producer in the world so we would pay you and would give you half the downtime you asked for and complain about it --- 2598253 >>2598072 oh believe me, there was plenty of cleaning. my family doesnt tend to pick up after themselves. it wasn't that i wasn't busy, its that i wasn't creating or enriching myself or contributing to society. again, its not for everyone --- 2598777 >>2596392 This is gonna end some incel discussion but I do think it's sad there are so many requirements to start a family. Maybe it's good the west aren't having as many kids as a result. --- 2600216 Just be a technologist instead. Swing around a laptop all day and baffle electricians with funny acronyms. --- 2600220 >>2598234 Second this. Automotive electricians make an absolute packet (especially uk) Am HVAC - fairly easy besides carrying tools/bottles of gas --- 2600387 >>2588241 (OP) There's always some cute Mexican lesbians at the Valvoline I go to --- 2600406 >>2588280 Ywnbaw --- 2600410 >>2588241 (OP) Consider locksmithing. No physically intense days and having smaller hands is a huge bonus. You get to work by yourself 90% of the time, only thing that sucks is you will be sitting in the back of a cramped van often. --- 2600424 >>2598096 I'm so glad I got right into the manufacturing side of electrical maintenance lol. I would hate my life too if I had to do nigger tier work like this >>2598217 Yes but I'm updating to control logix and you will assign two company sparkys to assist me. --- 2600430 >>2588241 (OP) Apparently both 'housewife' and Prostitution' are trades. Just get a strong husband --- 2600473 >>2588241 (OP) Steam-loom operative. Your hands are the ideal size for picking out jammed fabric. --- 2600527 >>2588241 (OP) >trade for a woman? I don't think you can exchange them once they are used.