----- --- 2590558 I lost the wheel lug nut key, anyone know a good way of removing the lug nut key without damaging the rim? --- 2590562 >>2590558 (OP) You can just buy a new one, OP. That’s probably the safest bet. --- 2590569 >>2590558 (OP) Drive it back, Jamal. --- 2590576 >>2590558 (OP) --- 2590599 They sell master lug keys at auto zone, nappa and dealerships. But it comes in a set. --- 2590625 >>2590558 (OP) >removing the lug nut key without damaging the rim >without damaging the rim Well that rim is already damaged, nice work --- 2590640 >>2590558 (OP) I cannot believe it is possible to impose enough torque on these things. They've got to be a meme. Or "it works at the dealership" where he closest road is ten yards away and they spin it on and off as many per day. --- 2590657 >>2590576 I tried those, it damaged the rim on the other wheels as shown in the pic. They are too wide. --- 2590909 >>2590657 drill out the stud --- 2590925 >>2590657 Shitty. Some are thinner than others. You could drill out the stud like anon said, but I would try to buy the damn key before doing that. Another option is hammer + chisel depending how much you like your wheels and how good your hand-eye coordination is. --- 2591069 >>2590558 (OP) Take it to a wheel shop, most of them have a kit with keys. Probably will cost you a few bucks or a sixpack of beer. --- 2591078 Air hammer and chisel if you have enough hand/arm strength and common fucking sense with your trigger finger to keep it from flying right into your wheel. --- 2591081 >>2590640 Lug nuts don't actually need that much torque. You can change one with an impact driver. It's only mongs who think "the tighter the better!' and peak out their biggest impact wrench on it who are potentially going to break one of these. --- 2591114 >>2590558 (OP) Give it back Quinton --- 2591129 >>2591081 >impact driver That's super. And when I'm in the side of the Interstate trying to get a donut on using a little bullshit iron, it's gonna cam and strip. --- 2591134 >>2591129 your fucked call a tire service they will swap the rubber on the spot they also tend to have key sets --- 2591275 >>2591081 that joke is usually in the toolbox of german cars. some engineer calculated 25cm of lever is enough for a 60kg women to torque down a nut standing on the lever. --- 2591294 >>2591275 you step on it or just get a tow club and not deal with it at all --- 2591300 >>2591129 >>2591081 Impact driver is only going to do it if you have a stronger brushless model AND your lugs weren’t installed by some mog at the tire shop with a rattle gun AND your studs are clean with clean nuts recently installed. I would not rely on all of that on the side of the road. I keep picrel in the car --- 2591302 >>2591300 you need an impact for that job lol didnt know bepis was a twink all along, post women hands and feet --- 2591327 >>2590558 (OP) Weld a bolt onto the face of it and twist it off with a wrench --- 2591333 >>2591302 Watch me get a beej because I did a NASCAR style tire swap for the grill (or guy) crying on the side of the road. Jelly fags are jelly. --- 2591335 >>2591327 This one makes me laugh, assuming dude who can’t figure out a security lug nut has a welder at home. --- 2591348 This is DIY for fuck sake, just build one ! --- 2591350 >>2591134 >call a tire service >>2591294 >get a tow club /diy/ in an emergency ladies and gentlemen --- 2591385 >>2591078 Long chisel and heavy hand hammer does them too. Done many at the used car dealer where I worked. --- 2592227 >>2591275 he's right though, even with this tiny thing any avarage male can overtighten lug nuts by hand, without stepping on it --- 2592571 >>2591335 Maybe his neighbor does --- 2592578 >>2590640 they can take enough torque to snap the fucking wheel stud off --- 2592586 >>2590576 This is where I was going... https://www.harborfreight.com/universal-locking-lug-nut-removal-set-58535.html Rip that f'er off and don't replace it. --- 2592604 Buy a bunch of different size 12 point sockets and try to hammer the right size on. Then use a breaker bar. Return the sockets back to the store. --- 2592643 >>2592227 thats exactly my point, you shouldnt need a 1000lbs impact wrenches, as pic rel was designed to be good enough without cheater bar --- 2592646 tack a bolt onto it xd --- 2592704 >>2590558 (OP) hammer a near sized 12pt onto it. it's how you steal wheels with similar locks. --- 2592713 >>2592643 I paid for 1250 ft lbs of torque and god dammit I'm going to use them! --- 2592738 >>2590558 (OP) Leave those rims alone, Jamal, they're not yours. --- 2593685 ITS GOT ELECTROLYTES! --- 2593690 >>2592713 This is the way... Use all the ugga-duggas... --- 2594422 >>2590657 You can use a flap disc on an angle grinder to thin the socket wall to suit the wheel. Hold socket with an extension and rotate gently. I've done it like most mechanics. --- 2594869 >>2591300 >some mog at the tire shop with a rattle gun My local tire shop is like that. Last time they had to take a tire off they cranked their rattle gun to 11. When I put my winter tires on later that year, I had to use a fence post for a cheater bar to get the fucking nuts open. --- 2594882 >>2594869 Those 2pc lug nuts get sticky too, or the stud was stretched. It was so tight that when the old lady got a flat on the side of the road, I tried to remove it with the spare tire iron and the wrench bent and cammed off and stripped a lug out. Then hammering on extractor sockets at home, the 450lb impact wrench wouldn’t get it and the breaker bar would just shave more metal off the stud. Anon’s 12V stubby wouldn’t touch those lug nuts, and that shit isn’t uncommon at all. But hey, at least Anon got his Milwaukee Fuel impact for <$150! He’s part of the club now! --- 2594924 >>2591333 ok hot can you help me change my tire? --- 2594933 >>2590558 (OP) Yep, buy your own car --- 2594978 >>2592227 Where I live I have to change my tires twice a year. What would be a good rule of thumb to know I don't overtight lug nuts. I'm using a cross lug wrench. --- 2595165 >>2590599 I bought a car with these once but the owner lost it. Took it to Belle tire and they sold me the socket for $8 --- 2595380 Find a 12 point deep socket that almost fits. Hammer it on. Take you lock nut off. Didn't believe it would work until I did it. --- 2595388 >>2594978 Get a torque wrench and find out how tight they should be >>2595380 How does this work? Does it just shatter the nut lock? --- 2595393 >>2594978 a $20 torque wrench --- 2597595 >>2595388 The 12 point socket wedges into the nut, so you can attach an impact or breaker bar and it'll turn. --- 2597631 >>2595388 Use a sacraficial socket if you’re going to try and hammer a 12pt on there. And hope the socket is hard and the nut or wheel lock is some soft cheese metal. Or get yourself a set of extractor sockets. Same idea except they actually work most of the time unlike the 12pt socket. --- 2599359 >>2593685 Do these actually work? --- 2599362 >>2599359 no. they are sold to no-wrenchers like Bepis. I assure you he has that piece of junk in multiple sizes, probably still in the package. --- 2599366 >>2590558 (OP) They just whack a socket slightly smaller than the nut on and take it off. --- 2599379 >>2599359 >>2599362 No. Even I wouldn’t buy one. The pins and springs assplode under any torque. I thought about buying one for the wing nuts for my hurricane shutters but a 1” socket actually fits on them perfectly and Ryobi even sells a wing nut bit. --- 2599382 >>2594978 Normally around 100Nm, so with a 40cm long cross lug nut, apply 50kg downward force to one side. So about half a man’s bodyweight. Pretty much what >>2591275 said but I would think 125Nm is a bit much. Or get a €30 torque wrench, they’re accurate enough --- 2599416 >>2599382 Car manual says 45-55nm i cringe thinking about idiot mechanics touching my car --- 2599432 >>2599416 > Car manual says 45-55nm What kinda car is this? Never had a car in here that had less than 90Nm on lug bolts --- 2599433 >>2590558 (OP) One of these guys on an impact, apply heat and oil if the other lugs are seized, since you only really got one good shot at it. Good luck with the wheel theft.