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--- 70635268
Come, have a drink, looks like you have something on your mind? What is it anon?

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q86g1aop6a8 [Embed]
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I left her on read
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I need sex but not with thots or whores
--- 70635653
My life is complete and utter miserable pathetic shit. I have been contemplating quitting my horrible job and going neet mode to try to fix this because right now all I think about is suicide, I have severe anxiety and severe depression and I figure it can’t possibly get any worse. Perhaps being neet with every full day open to me will give me the time to be able to tackle the multitude of problems in my life.

However I have a beautiful Saturday right now, 1:15 pm and all I do is just sit here doing nothing. Doing absolutely nothing. I read about people with good jobs and get depressed about it yet do nothing. I think about people who spend their free time socializing and doing hobbies and wan to do that, yet in my free time I do nothing and hide away.

I cannot take this anymore.
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>>70635653
Break out of your lethargic cycle. Go out and do something. Ride your bike if the weather is nice. Go watch a fucking movie. Buy a guitar.
I know it's hard when you are sedated by all the dopamine stimulating electronics around you, but you can break free if you really want to. Just go right now. Stop thinking about it. Go out and do something outside after your done reading this gay ass post
--- 70635730
A much younger girl is into me (she is of legal age in my local legal jurisdiction yes) but the amount of stigma around having a relationship with her seems like it'd be a social nightmare. She's actually pretty cool and chill and I've been struggling to find a single quality woman who's older, they all seem taken.
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>>70635730
You sick fucking pedophile don’t even think about it..
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>>70635740
You’re right. Thanks for the kind words. I deleted her phone number from my contacts.
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>>70635730
Let me guess:
>“Different stage of life.”
This is not an impediment. If she's doing university then cool, even better for you to support her through it. She doesn't have to go through a shitty dating stage of life getting heartbroken and bitter. You're both in the same stage of life called unmarried adulthood.
>“He can’t get an older woman, they obviously see he’s immature or a creep!”
Implying older women are harder to get than younger women and that men aren't intentionally passing over available older women for younger women because they're more attractive.
>“He must be immature too.”
Implying maturity in adults goes by age. Ironically it's the immature grannies who say this themselves.
>“He must be looking to manipulate her/power dynamics."
A 20 year old woman has infinitely more power than a 30 year old man. She is highly demanded, can move on and replace him instantly, and has more time to find someone new while he has to make the investment.
>“What would they even have in common?”
The only thing you two need to have in common is that you make eachother happy. My parents have had a loving marriage for 30+ years and don't like the same movies, music, activities, blah blah blah blah blah but love eachother regardless. I think only the shallowest people think that you need to be an exact superficial copy of your partner.
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>>70635809
Honestly my man, did not read. Keep it short and simple next time.
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>>70635730
>she is of legal age in my local legal jurisdiction
The fact that you said this and not simply "she's 18" makes me very worried
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>>70635268 (OP)
I went on second date with a very nice girl, she is easy to talk to even about my autistic hobbies and quirks. She is very normal and grounded, actually long term relationshiop material. But I feel absolutely nothing. In february I fell head over heels in love with a straight up insane bpd girl, I barely got out of that shit but I have a suspicion Im actually only attracted to insane girls. Im 35 and Ill never achieve the dream of a loving wife, comfy home and 4 kids thanks to this shit.
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>>70635268 (OP)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q86g1aop6a8 [Embed]
Elite choice of music. I've lost count of the number of times I've played this exact video.
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>>70635792
dont listen to this retard, if shes legal at the very least rail her
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>>70635590
you can try with men
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>>70635268 (OP)
I 've had the chance to have dinner with this cutie I've met at the latino parties I attend. I like her alot but she's been in a relationship for like 3 months with this fucking 45 year old guy (she being 28). Shit sucks man, goddamnit all
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>>70635815
tl;dr
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My ex finally blocked me after I got angry at her for calling me everyday. She told me I’m a bad person and that she blocked me for her own good
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>>70635268 (OP)
I don't understand how to not be sensitive over insults. My friend called my dick small, and I was mad for the entire night.
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>>70635730
>talking skit some younger girl who based on how you dance around the question is probably 13-14 years old
>she’s cool and chill
Holy fucking lol
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>>70635834
She’s nice and thick and legal age. I think I just might.
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>>70635862
Based, dont listen to the bitter old hags and virgins. If the law is okay with it, you should be too
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>>70635862
gotDAMN she’s fine and fertile. hit it once for me please
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what is the point of life?
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>>70635268 (OP)
I don't lift to be attractive.
I don't lift to get stronger.
I don't lift to get dates.
I don't lift to have sex.
I lift to cope and not end it all.
Am I the only pathetic loser schizo on /fit/?
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>>70635858
Where do you live that 13 is legal age anon? Sudan or something?
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>motherfucking dethklok and Babymetal touring together this summer
>no friends to see it with
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>>70635894
No there are plenty of us
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>>70635857
You'll learn it with time, don't worry about it now.

>>70635833
Thanks man, I have spent literal days just listening to this, its good.

>>70635831
Grats on the date. I think the reason we tend to fall for those bpd girls is because of how stimulating the relationship is compared to "normal and grounded" girls. I got over this trend a few years ago, and if I could, you can do it too.

>>70635894
You are likely one of the most normal people on /fit/ by this boards standards, trust me.
--- 70635916
Lifted and did my taxes today, can't complain. Getting older is strange, I don't feel that different but so much more of life is about money and bureaucracy. Think I might hit some bars with a friend and chat with girls tonight, running a startup has put me into cocoon mode almost by accident. Not as aesthetic as I used to be, but smoother in conversation, better on the dance floor, and having an accent American girls like is a cheat code.
--- 70635918
Just showered, gonna spend the evening walking downtown with gf. If you don't have anything else to do, go outside for a walk.
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>>70635915
>Grats on the date. I think the reason we tend to fall for those bpd girls is because of how stimulating the relationship is compared to "normal and grounded" girls. I got over this trend a few years ago, and if I could, you can do it too.
dude please show me the way, I want off this wild ride
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>>70635918
This thread is for virgins and incels bro. Get the fuck out of here with your fulfilling love life.
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>>70635894
>am I the only pathetic loser on fit
Pretty much yeah. Everyone here is a Chad who constantly talk about how strong smart and rich they are
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>>70635653
If you live in a nice country/work in a good industry you can probably go on sick leave for burnout if you talk to a doctor.
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One of my friend groups invited me downtown later to one of the "mature" pubs. Usually just sit around with them there then go home. Maybe a qt will be there this time though.
--- 70636028
How late is too late?

22 khhv and the lack of social life for the past 8 years is starting to kill me when I realize what was missed. Parents are extremely strict and sheltered me from even really having friends, let alone girls, even into college years thanks to the economy being shit so it's not easy to just break away.

It kills me when I think that people were getting shitfaced at concerts and laid with Stacies, while my most nostalgic moments from the past 4 or 5 years were when I was 19, just finished RDR2 and was watching Gintama in my room. That was a weird time in my life. First job, and I saw more closely how different my life was from everyone else's.

It's weird because I've had at least one Stacy tier girl hit on me in the past (and I mean she was making it obvious), so it's weirdly agonizing seeing guys you "mog" doing better in life and with women than yourself. My only cope is I have a decent career path in front of me, but it's hard to focus at all on work or school when you're this miserable and atomized. 

However much my life has improved, it's the same it was 5 years ago, and that kills me. I feel like I'll die inside my room. People spend their youth out and about, hanging out with friends, whereas I had almost all the hours, inside these 4 walls, with little recourse or ability to step out since I'm still not financially independent. I spent time lifting and doing all sorts of things, but I'm sitting in my bed, technically no better off. I guess if I get a better job I could move out, since the one I have is almost good enough, but will it be too late at that point? How awful it is when the only thing stopping you from being Chad was your own family.
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>>70635296
>I left her on read
I did something much worse
>me: "hey, how are you"
>she: "meh, so and so"
>me: "me too"
>she: "yeah, things are not easy anymore"
>me: left her on read, never answered back
What is wrong with me???
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>>70636028
Collateral is such a great movie
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my gf left me couple of days ago and she is all iam thinking about... feel like a such a bitch but i cant help myself
--- 70636061
My poor life choices led me to be single in my 30s, work a back breaking dead end job, crashing on someone's attic and have no social life at all.
Anons don't be retarded and make sure you address your shyness and low self esteem when young instead of letting it affect your life.
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>>70636033
If she's not housing your semen inside of her regularly her problems are not your problem.
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>>70636061
Same man. Absolutely agree on the shyness thing. Lack of social skills is the worst thing when you’re young
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>>70635268 (OP)
I downloaded Grindr a got a blowjob from a cute twink for the first time. It was pretty cool I watched porn while he blew me it was like ordering delivery pizza
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>>70636028
>How late is too late?
Late for what?
It's never too late to start working on improving your life.
But, if you are one of us, it was always, even before you were born, too late to make it.
Even without hope you can and should keep on trying and lifting.
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>>70636094
Enjoy your gonorrhea.
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>>70636028
>Parents are extremely strict and sheltered me from even really having friends, let alone girls
How? Country? Religion?
I don't buy it, seems like a massive cope by you too shift the responsibility of your cowardice and mistakes to others.
Btw, I'm just projecting now, it's not an attack against you.
I don't even know you.
Although I would like you to answer the 2 questions I asked.
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I grabbed coffee with a cute guy and found out he's only 19 (I'm 33). We were seeing each other for 2 months but I felt weird about the age difference even though we were happy together so I broke it off. Now not sure if I made the right call
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>>70636028
At least you are not a 45 year old virgin like me but with your kind of schizo thinking you are well on your way to become one. My condolences.
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>>70636061
>Anons don't be retarded and make sure you address your shyness and low self esteem when young instead of letting it affect your life.
This although if I heard this advice when I still had time to fix me I wouldn't because too big of a schizo.
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Just got out of a 4 year relationship and kinda thrown off by how much the dating scene has changed.
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>>70635268 (OP)
The only thing that gives me joy outside of lifting weights is trying to make the perfect espresso and flat white on Saturday and Sunday morning. I'm a virgin btw
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>>70636138
Sounds like you made a giant mistake because you let imagined social anxiety ruin your mentality.
--- 70636196
I have never seen a trans person irl
yet my social media feeds are filled to the brim with pro/anti-trans rhetoric
Is this a product of being terminally online?
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>>70636138
Who cares if you’re a cougar if you’re happy? That’s all that matters at the end of the day. I’ve seen 50yo women with guys in their early 30s
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>>70636205
nigga that’s two men
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>>70636196
Yes. It’s a very easy way for them to keep common folk distracted and separated

Onlyfans is a much bigger detriment to society than trannies. But media ignores it
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>>70636196
I work as a high school teacher and literally every class has at least one "trans" kid in it whether they're full on cross dressing or just using a different name/pronouns.
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>>70636196
i’ve met at least 5. fucked one
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>>70636240
>>70636250
Lmao USA right? What's going on there, are they putting gay drugs in the water lol
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>>70636250
based
how do you find them in the wild?
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>>70636048
It was existential kino
>>70636098
Being a normal guy I guess. Having friends and going on some wacky misadventure where we get drunk and act retarded in the glow of youth. Having a woman swoon all over me and going out to some quaint diner for a meal, with her giving me that tender smile of affection and sincere attachment.
>>70636123
Didn't really let me form any sort of relations with anyone outside of family, so I never went out with friends at a young age, and even with people from our demographic, they never let me get too close and go out and have fun or anything. It was just, study and do as you're told. I live in America. Religion is one from the Indian subcontinent, but I think I just got unlucky with the family. I was always alone so I never really developed a whole lot of social confidence, and I was even more shy after my glowup near end of high school, despite having at least 2 Stacy tier women express interest. I wasn't even that good back then as I was slightly chubby, but I lucked out with the face I guess.

College, I still had no shot as I was all isolated (went to local community college first, and had no money). If I knew then, I would've been bolder, despite being broke. I'm sure some blame could be put on me, but I also feel like I never stood a chance.

I wouldn't even know where to start if I somehow got a girl now. It's brutal as I'm sociable and liked, but can't seem to get beyond being that "chill, slightly odd" guy.

I just hope there's a shot at me turning it around before I'm too old.
>>70636152
:/
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>>70636250
how was that bussy playa?
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>>70636283
>Being a normal guy I guess. Having friends and going on some wacky misadventure where we get drunk and act retarded in the glow of youth. Having a woman swoon all over me and going out to some quaint diner for a meal, with her giving me that tender smile of affection and sincere attachment.
You never had a chance, sorry. You are simping for something that is not even real and putting normalfags (including pussy) on a pedestal. It's over.
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I broke up with my gf one week ago, I feel as my life could end before the month end and yet I feel serene. In this week I started working on a project, I went to the beach, climbed and went to the sauna.
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>>70636167
>>70636080
Younger lads here need to be told this because you don't learn to cope and life becomes better as you get older, in fact it gets worse since you probably lose the little social life you had when your mates move on with their lives.
I left my parents house, I did the moving abroad thing and try it to start a new you there but didn't work either.
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>>70636349
>in fact it gets worse since you probably lose the little social life you had
Absolutely. Social life gets exponentially more difficult as you get older. But I doubt if any of us would be told to not be shy, just talk to the girl, etc when we were young and still had a """chance""" we would actually make it.
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>>70636187
Sounds like you're having fun there mate. 
>>70635929
I guess it happened naturally when I started considering starting a family and figuring out what do I want to do with the rest of my life. The realisation that no fruitful long term relationship can be had with those types was more than enough to do the job.
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>>70636259
yeah buddy
>>70636264
first one i met in the wild was just hanging around the same people i partied with. called me cute. found out she’s a legit pornstar years later when i stumbled upon her videos. did work with popular trannies in the industry you might have fapped to
>>70636284
honestly sucked because she’d cum fast from prostate stimulation. sex was too short lived to be enjoyable, but they loved to give head. has like 90k followers on porn twitter and a popping onlyfans. i ended up dating her female born sister for a year and the anal sex was much better
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>>70636378
It probably would have made no difference since retardation would have not gone away but in hindsight it would have been good to be told about it, at least to offer some crude perspective on how it really turns out.
I had this mindset that I would rough it on, live a simple life by myself and everything would be fine, now I miss very much the wasted opportunities at happiness with decent girls along the way because I was too shy to actually go for it instead of cockblocking myself.
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>>70635268 (OP)
I want to have a drink, it has been 2.5 months since my last drink. I was pretty heavy before hand, tanking shots and drinking quite a bit. 7+ drinks a night at home.

My body and mental functions have improved exponentially and my liver function is back to normal. I'm 33, 6'9" and 265. I've lost 15lbs since Feburary. I had a long day with my kid, had a great time and I want to cap it off with pic related but not get drunk.

Am I fucking myself over? All I have in the house is spiced wine and pic related. I managed to talk myself out of buying beer at the store, mostly because of the price.
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>>70636492
Forgot pic related
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>>70636061
currently 31 and this is more or less my life. And I’ve completely given up and I’m waiting to get the courage to commit suicide. The lack of social skills is what destroyed my entire life. It led me to being miserable when younger, which gave me no motivation, which made my life bad, which further made me unmotivated. And now I’m 31 completely irredeemable and see no point in anything because what the point when I’m this old and have wasted the best years of my life. It’s over. Who cares anymore
>you need mental help go to a therapist
Even if I did and got diagnosed with shit and got medication like add anxiety depression, what’s the point when you’ve wasted your entire life.
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>>70636492
Not gonna bullshit you my friend, I think you will be fucking yourself over if you go for a bunch of drinks tonight.
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>>70635268 (OP)
Sparkling water barkeep, going into the gym tomorrow

>Got to see head doc for focal headaches I was getting, he said based on the fact I wasn't having seizures or fainting or losing weight that I'm thankfully not dying and probably just have stress-induced chronic migraines
>Thankful but having semi-persistent focal brain pain still freaks me out, want to drop 1400$ to get a brain MRI 
>Also 8/8 getting flaked out on dates this year, went on more last year than any year before but idk what changed
>Ask girls out for coffee a few days in advance, check in with them the day before and "oops! I uh... feel bad!" and they disappear
>Others will give me their number, start texting and bantering and then go cold
>Some demand I take them hiking, hit them up and then they ghost
>Watching more playing with fire vids off youtube and I'm basically doing what he does but I'm not sexualizing the girls I meet on bumble/hinge
>Don't know what the FUCK I will do or ever meet a girl I don't have to go through a godamn monkey acrobatics shit circus to hold the attention of

In other news: Been going to a new gym I can bike to and that has a sauna, it's fucking beautiful biking out there in the crisp air at sunrise, and then finishing a session feeling the sins and pain and depression steam out of my body in that sauna. 
We're all gonna make it brothers.
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>>70636468
>I had this mindset that I would rough it on, live a simple life by myself and everything would be fine
Spot on. Story time
>be me
>21 year old virgin
>first job as the it support guy in a company
>recently had dropped out of college because schizo autistic and poor and me and family needed money
>despite autism and schizo I talked to wonen and flirted
>I thought it was all matter of time and tries, I would make it, I would have sex, etc
>girl from work, cute and bpd, think Summer from 500 days of summer
>we hanged out, talked a lot, she was friendly and touchy
>went to her place and fixed her pc when it had issues with the adobe suite she used for freelance work
>I even downloaded programs for her and wrote scripts to automate her work, manage her fonts etc
>after that we talked in her bedroom, or had lunch at her place
>always asked her out to go to a movie or eat ouside but she always had something to do
>didn't get the memo lmao
>then one fateful afternoon at her place we were talking about relationships, actually she initiated the convo
>and I told her
>"I want you to be my girlfriend"
>she literally changed color in front of me, almost cried, and told me not to pressure her and to leave
>cried driving my way home
>a few weeks went by, not even talking to women or noticing since then
>and one fateful morning not even a month after the event as I was driving to work a thought came
>"I will never find anyone as perfect as her, I will always be alone, I have to kill my soul and get used to it, it will be better this way"
>and I literally did
>I schizomaxxed and autismmaxxed since then
>fast forward to 35
>my life absolutely ruined, recently fired due to economic crisis, no degree, no friends, no studies, no sex, giga schizo for real
>decided since I neet to resume studies
>since then I got degree in engineering, got a job as an engineer, good pay
>lift for 1 year 
Still a virgin. I don't blame her anymore, bound to happen, don't waste ur life kids.
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>struggling but hopeful
>still pained but deciding to not let it define me
>feel strong even when faced with things that make me weak
>Feel like I will make it no matter what
>get a haircut
>fucked my shit up
>immediately fall into depression

Please just let me die I can’t do this shit
--- 70636678
What am I supposed to do if during a conversation with one or more people someone starts trying to argue and tell me what I said is incorrect while simultaneously making my same point and saying exactly what I did? Idk how to describe it but in simple terms
>yeah so if you take 2 and add it to 2, you will get 4
>No you fucking moron if you take two and another two, you go from 2 to 3 then to 4 you’re bad at math and your answer was wrong
Like they’ll get caught up on semantics even if I word things like most people.


The recent argument was about single moms. Someone said they “can’t raise kids” and their kids don’t become functioning adults. I said
>100% dude kids raised by single moms usually aren’t well adjusted healthy functioning adults and have all sorts of issues and aren’t pleasant to deal with. A single mom can still RAISE a kid though, raising is mostly about getting them to adulthood. She just didn’t raise them RIGHT
That was me picking at semantics myself admittedly. But then 2 people started crying saying I missed the point completely and what I said was wrong, while in the same breath saying the first part of what I did word for word. Literally word for word
>You missed the point and you’re wrong, kids raised by single moms usually aren’t well adjusted healthy functioning adults and have all sorts of issues and aren’t pleasant to deal with
No amount of
>why are you arguing if you agree? Everyone sitting here has agreed and made this same point word for word you and I included so how are you simultaneously saying I am wrong?
Or even
>I could RAISE a dog and it could be a piece of shit child eater, I still raised it I just didn’t do it properly
Got through to them. It’s like they were bitter black pilled incels who heard one semi positive thing being said about women and they lost their shit. I genuinely dont know what do if breaking it down into simple terms doesn’t work(“You agree that X, I also agree that X”)
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>>70636578
Thanks friend, I needed that.
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>>70635590
I offer my mother as tribute. She's an upstanding and handsome woman.
--- 70636731
I'm going on a tropical vacation in two weeks. Trying to get my beach body all the way there. I do mostly bodyweight exercises. I'm 6'2" 185 and relatively fit. Just can't get rid of the last 5-7 pounds of extra it seems though. Think Leonardo DiCaprio dad bod. Any tips on how to cut those last few pieces of fat? Go on a low carb? Been single for a few months so just making sure I can feel confident without my shirt off for a week in a beach town.
--- 70636755
I'm trying I swear I am
I just need a sign, something good to happen in my life just for once
I'm on the verge of dropping all this improving shit after 1.5 year
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>>70636349
I hope they see this. I always tell younger guys at work that the biggest thing you notice is all the girls you didn't take a shot with when you probably would have hit a decent % of your shots. But never wallow in it. You can be a decent looking 50 year old and make up for it if you really wanted. But I still have crippling anxiety talking to women and I don't know if it will ever go away.
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>>70635831
Trust me, you avoided the apex of BPD. As the other anon pointed out, the love bomb phase isn't normal behavior, it's a trap. It feels great, but you're lucky you got out now instead of years in. Keep it up with this girl, it will probably feel great in a month knowing you're not going to get stabbed in your sleep.
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>>70636492
Stay strong for your kid, friend. Abstain.
--- 70636844
I turned 30yo boomer in January and I bounce back and forth between feeling like my life is running out and I'll never find a decent partner in life and will die alone and it's all over to thinking I've got tons of time I'm staying fit and can remain pretty handsome till at least 40 and maybe can find a decent qt still who likes older guys.
--- 70636872
>having lots of shifts with this qt coworker 
>something about her is insanely hot
>her eyes basically scream ‘SEX SEX SEX SEX’
>gives me continuous seductive looks and intense eye contact 
>noticeable sexual tension
>i play along with her games knowing she has a boyfriend 

i’m almost at my breaking point
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>>70636678
Don't argue with idiots. There, problem solved.
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>>70636549
At 31 you still have plenty good years if you fix your shit, sure you won't get to experience love like most people do in their late teens and early twenties but you might meet someone nice. Turning off the lights it's a no no, you can't hurt your parents like that, even if that means struggling and enduring pain yourself.

>>70636663
Damn anon you went from nothing to ask her to gf you lmao. 

I lost my v card along the way and there was this coworker at around 25 that I hooked with and was into me but autism stroke and even after having sex a couple times with her I couldn't be comfortable and was always overthinking shit so I ghosted her. A couple years back, after hitting 30 I met this 23yo lass, the nice christian girl the all package that I really connected with, could finally be myself and experience what was the closest to call love, thing is she was cheating on her fucking bf with me so things never went past that and I think it was my last chance, now at 33 there's nothing.

Also good on you for turning things for the better.
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>>70636872
She wants you to fuck her and take her as your own so she can cheat on you next.
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>>70636731
Intermittent fasting. Take some resistance bands in your suitcase and sneak in some curls, side lat raises, and chest expanders daily to have a permanent pump.
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>>70636755
At this point I would take bad things not occurring as a good sign. I don’t mean to drag you down but to inspire instead bro. Every single fucking time I try to fix or improve things as of the last 7 ish years, the most absurd things happen to get in my way.
>try dating again after years out of it
>get peeped on while fucking her by some 14 year olds and she now doesn’t trust me 2 months in
Or
>get back into lifting, go out of my way to start slow and easy to relearn form and prevent injury literally just the bar
>somehow fuck my shoulder up a week in
Or
>back at ages 17/18 start trying to get healthy
>manage to lose all the fat over 100lbs
>meniscus is now torn to shreds
Or
>try to make myself healthy food get back into habit of eating good and right
>turn around for less than 10 seconds to get spice and then turn back and there’s carpenter ants all over my chicken
Or
>bust ass in first real job zero days off
>save enough to replace broken 25 year old car with used car, get truck to use for the job
>old faggot on highway tries to insurance fraud me by slamming on his breaks
>truck totaled, EMT so check on him
>OI MESHUGGAH! MY KNEE! ACK! MY NECK! GOY WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
>minutes later says he’s actually fine, medics arrive, he tells them to fuck off and that he’s fine and he’s walking around
>replace truck with last of saved money, dude lies to his insurance and they give him double the value of his vehicle which was somehow barely dented and still functional despite the front of my truck and engine splitting in half
>tries to sue me for the absurd payout they give him
>get lawyer man to fix it, he does well, but still nothing good, now $7k in debt


It sucks but that’s life. That’s not even the surface for me. All we can do is keep going and improving, to forever grow stronger and better. It’s worth it because the alternative is go nowhere and rot which feels much worse than life constantly trying to ass fuck me when I try to do well.
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>>70636901
most likely. i don’t see her as gf material but she’s a complete smokeshow and i know potential sex is going to be wild.
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>>70636879
I knew this was the answer before I even posted that. It just genuinely baffles me though, I’ve come across that sort of thing a lot. Even the most basic shit. It’s like some people argue just to argue and have no awareness of what’s being said by themself.
>No you imbecile the correct answer is don’t argue with idiots and you’re wrong
You can see how absurd that sounds right? Ahh I shouldn’t question what genuinely dumb people do or why they do what they do. You’re right man. It just baffles me completely every time I encounter it
--- 70637006
How do I stop caring?

The more I learn about the world, the less sense it makes. It's going to shit, I can see exactly why it's going to shit, I can explain what I'm seeing in clear detail but I can't change it. It angers me so much, even though I know caring about things you can't change is irrational. This may sound like a humble brag, but I think my problem is having too strong a sense of justice. I sometimes fantasized about taking over the and bringing down the unforgiving hammer of justice, but I know that's just a fantasy.

In this regard I admire someone like you Mr. Metokur. He is very astute in observing what's wrong with the world, but unlike me he laughs at it. It's like that cringy quote
>I thought life easier a tragedy, but then I realized it's a comedy

How can I achieve such a paradigm shift? It'd be a lot better for my mental health to just enjoy watching the world crumble under the weight of its own incompetence.
--- 70637037
Can someone please explain to me this BPD meme? I see it all over the Internet and this thread right now about the gf/girl/woman with BPD. Both guys saying girls have it, and girls claiming to have it. I refuse to believe that this legit mental illness is so widespread, that so many girls and women are afflicted with bipolar disorder. Is this real bipolar disorder? Or is this just 
>this girl is sometimes happy and sometimes angry, therefore she has BPD!!!!!!
in the same vein as people who “get sad sometimes” claim to have anxiety and need meds, or “get sad sometimes” and claim depression and need meds
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>>70637037
Sorry that should say
>people get nervous sometimes and claim to have anxiety that they need meds for
--- 70637051
What's the fastest way to fall out of love?
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>>70637037
Some actually have BPD, but most of the time I think that, in this case girls tend to act like they have BPD because their friends do the same. What makes this fucked up is that these girls sometimes fall out of their act, make you think that they are over it, essentially reeling you into them and then once their "in the mood" again they go back to their BPD act that everyone around them tries to keep up because for some reason it is "attractive"
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>>70637066
But what is the “BPD act” exactly? When you guys talk about BPD do you just mean that they are sometimes happy sometimes angry or what
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>>70635730
don't let these faggots on here or irl bully you out of having prime aged pussy, they are either jealous or henpecked by hags in their 30s
you better wife her ass up though
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>>70637037
Borderline personality disorder. In recent years it's gotten more well known. It's prevalence isn't that there's more girls with it. It's that a small number of batshit crazy girls can impact 10+ men's lives in a 5 year span.
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>>70635862
what the fuck is wrong with you the entire point of dating younger girls is that they arent fat wrinkly ugly ass abominations
have some fucking standards you're on /fit/ you should be at a minimum fucking level of male attractiveness unless you're a larper who never goes to a gym
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>>70637006
I’m kind of where you are but I believe I know the answer. I once stopped caring and I was happy.
>Can I personally do anything about these things
>Yes
>get to it
Or if “No,”
>damn that sucks, moving on though…
Live to pursue and work on only the things that will bring your joy and happiness and fun. If something doesn’t detract from your happiness directly then forget about it. Stop watching news and media too btw, shit sucks. There’s all kinds of horrific shit going on in this world and the last thing most of us need is to have it all shoved in our faces early in the morning and then at night after work while trying to go to sleep. Just focus on the things you enjoy instead.
>how to achieve this shift
By the above, and also just finding the comedy in the absurdity. You are stressing over things out of your control. Only a lunatic would do that and it’s something we all do, which is fucking hilarious when you think about it.
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>>70635268 (OP)
Any of you guys think about artificial superintelligence? A lot of really smart people think it's coming within a few years. They also think it's either gonna kill us all or best case scenario automate every meaningful job. 

I think about it a lot.
--- 70637205
I've gotten pretty big over the last year, god a decent looking cut and shit, feel good about myself so I started hitting on this really shy girl from my classes.

She's a single sperg girl and I'm pretty decent looking and not a complete sperg so I feel like it should be a pretty easy score but she hasn't really shown any of the classic indicators of interest. I plan to keep talking to her but I don't know how to tell if she's just happy being single or what.

Anyone else prey on these kinds of girls and have tips? The only think I socially have going for myself is that I finally beat the approach anxiety out of myself about 90% of the way and I can hold at least a little small talk, but other than that I feel like my socialization level and chad power is pretty low in general.
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>>70636306
>You never had a chance, sorry. You are simping for something that is not even real and putting normalfags (including pussy) on a pedestal. It's over.
Sometimes I feel like this and I go to my usual cope (please don’t cringe) of thinking I’m secretly a 300 IQ supervillain who’s above it all, like Jake Gyllenhaal’s Nightcrawler role, building up wealth and resources to be a powerful criminal kingpin, but when you’re on the outside looking in, it’s brutal. Once in a while I see something that makes my power fantasy cope fall apart.

There was this chick at a job I had who was really cute, and we got along well too. She was taken, and was telling me once about how she went to some restaurant with her boyfriend, and hearing her talk about it the way she did was utterly crushing, knowing I’ll likely never get a chance to do the same anytime soon. She was such a sweet girl too, if she was the way she presented herself as, she’s the sort of girl you’d marry in a heartbeat.

Also that time I was getting in my car from the gym, and in my rear view mirror, I saw this teenage girl running into the arms of a guy and start making out in the parking lot.

There was this one time this slightly weird girl at another job hugged me (I want into her, but maybe if I’d warmed up to her for longer I could’ve been), and it was only for like 2 seconds but it was the most brutally short moment of happiness I’d had. It felt like the thing I was missing for the longest time was in my grasp, and I wanted desperately to hold her even for a second longer, even if we were just friends and it’d never go any further. It hurt, really.

Leaving the ladies aside, it’s alienating when you don’t even have close friends your age.

And I know it’s not just entirely fake, as most have some social success in my age group. Sound pathetic, but COVID made me happy in the shared misery and loneliness my generation had.
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>>70637037
I have absolutely no idea if the two girls in about to mention have BPD but this is what I mean when I say it, crazy. Maybe it’s NPD but either way the actions I’m about to list are pretty in line with something a girl with NPD and even BPD would do.
First GF
>threatens to kill herself if I’m trying to hang with friends, actively tried to kill any docile relationships I have other than with her, tells friends I abuse her and beat her to achieve this, turns around and puts her hands on me on my birthday, cuts herself and tries to convince me it’s my fault if other forms of manipulation don’t work
>after breaking up with her spends years telling lies about me trying to cancel me, doesn’t even have any idea what she’s been doing and have deluded herself into believing this horseshit
You would think I fed her her own dog or something.
Last GF
>threatens to cheat
>Swears up and down it didn’t happen as if she wasn’t talking to me when she said it and says I made it up, changes her story 1000 times to avoid taking accountability over something wrong rather than do the right thing while I’m giving her chances to fix it, somehow convinces herself she did nothing wrong and I’m the bad guy for no longer trusting her wants me to apologize, actually tried to say I’m telling lies and just want drama and toxicity
That’s the crap I mean when I say BPD. Batshit crazy stuff, any woman who’s just mentally unwell and treats the men she dates like shit while somehow trying to justify it, the whole super manipulative shit, gaslighting, thriving in shitty drama and toxic type relationships, not respecting boundaries but throwing a child like tantrum if you accidentally cross one of her boundaries which she never even bothered to discuss, etc. Just goofy crazy bitch stuff. Generic
>my gf was happy for 3 weeks this month and this entire last week she’s been a massive bitch
Isn’t BPD.
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>>70637245
Social** not docile… although that works still because that psycho only wanted me to have one single, hectic, relationship
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>>70637163
I watch computerphile. Great videos on the subject. Especially by the smart bearded dude (he could lift some more though). It may happen. But I bet it's going to be another hyped thing that will prove to be absolutely nothing.
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>>70637037
>>70637245
And for the record I do think many people here are mixing up BPD and NPD
Also
>in the same vein as people who “get sad sometimes” claim to have anxiety and need meds
And all related forms of it bothers me immensely. I basically have PTSD from the amount of NPD shit I’ve experienced from women. Even had a girl at an old job try to fuck me just so after kissing (and nothing more) she could tell everyone I raped her so she could make friends with more people at that job because I was the only person nice enough to say hello to her and introduce myself after she started. I know what anxiety is like, to have daily panic attacks for no reason, to not leave my house for a year straight, to drop out of school and avoid amazing opportunities due to genuine chronic fight or flight at all times. Then I see these zoomers and women try to romanticize this crap because they once felt slightly nervous while speaking in front of a large crowd, or got nervous because a big guy got in a fight with someone else unrelated to her in any way and she saw it.
Autism is the new one.
>HAHA I STRUGGLE TO HAVE BASIC EMPATHY FOR OTHERS IM SUCH A NEURODIVERGENT HAHA
--- 70637329
>quit drinking while I was getting blackout drunk 3 times a week for almost 2 years straight
>quit nicotine when I was smoking a pack a day for 3 years and vaping through 3-5 disposables a week for over two years
>quit weed when I was smoking daily for 2 years
>can't quit porn
it's making me so livid with myself it's unreal
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>>70637329
Damn… I’m trying to quit nicotine and weed in hopes that I’ll be able to do no fap/no porn again like I did when I was 20 before I was smoking weed or vaping. I thought the instant gratification dopamine rush from weed and nicotine were destroying my will power. I was once able to do it for any length of time, 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month, 3 months.. then started beating it 10x a day out of nowhere and haven’t been able to go more than 24 hours since. And it definitely causes problems for me
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>>70635929
You just need to decide what you want.
If you want a comfy home life with 4 kids, you marry the woman you can build that with.

BPD mothers create BPD children.
Get it into your skull that even though you have an attraction to insane chicks and probably tell yourself all the usual lies like
>omg she crazy but she do best sex of life bro

You either crave the drama of arguments and sex with an emotional retard, or you actually want the family you claim to.
The fact that youre 35 and nowhere near close to getting it means you probably don't want it, you just feel like you should.

Pick a lane, but trying to have both, breeding a blue hair, is immoral and you know it.
--- 70637359
>ex was being friendly and flirtatious
>does some stupid thing where we are supposed to fist bump but she grabs my hand instead and laughs because her hands are freezing cold
>joking about zoomer slang with friends
>she says to everyone I have rizz
>mood is good
>go home and immediately feel depressed because she doesn't want to be with me anyways and it's all probably a show
>have to see her everyday because I made the mistake of dating a co-worker
>don't even care that I got a small promotion, still feel like shit
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>>70636033
Sounds like you got out of being friendzoned very quickly. You should feel lucky.
Any girl telling you her problems has decided that she doesn't need to look like a catch to you, she's free to use you as a male girlfriend.
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>>70637359
You need to stop caring. And I know it's easier said than done, but you have to really take it to heart that it is permanently over, forever.

Life took a turn, and you're over here now. You're in this room. The door slams behind you and there's no going back.

There is literally no utility in feeling bad about her, missing her, wishing things were different. 
It's not going to teach you anything.
It's not going to help you.

Refuse to feel bad.
Choose to be happy. Choose to think nice thoughts a good deal of the time.
There is no utility in remembering this bad experience, this bad feeling. There's no point there where you can calibrate and shoot again, and have it work out.
It's just done, you're out and you need to move toward a new thing.

Imagine her as a male coworker and treat her as such.
If some new guy at work told everybody you were clearly charismatic, you'd post about it once in /mire/ and you'd have a nice night, and you'd not really think about it any further than that.

I'm sorry it happened. I'm sorry its eating you, its not your fault and you have to stop. You have to choose to be happy.
--- 70637525
working out harder than ever to keep her off my mind.
Work is still shit but it pays well. Can't have it all I guess
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>>70637037
It's girls who were not loved properly by their parents, so they orient their whole life around getting attention from men.
They don't understand what love is because they either didn't get it, or the type they did get was so conditional, that they are permanently on edge expecting to be abandoned, and anything that triggers that feeling, anything that makes them feel like abandonment is imminent makes them lash out with everything they have.

They'll break your shit, they'll call you every name under the sun, they'll try to poke at your sensitive areas and get you to hit them.
They use a cycle like this;

>meet a guy who has sugar plum fairies in his head and still believes in love (you)
>she figures out what you value so she can pretend be the embodiment of your ideals
>she does this so that you fall in love with her and keep validating her daily, you have a passionate early relationship, movie romance.
>she contrives a situation where you upset her massively, she may even end the relationship (superficially)
>you cry and beg her to stay with you, you swear not to hurt her again
>she now has leverage. She will use this incident she faked and this fear you have, to keep you in a state of fear of her abandoning you
>this is fucked up, but this is also her relationship with her parents, it's all she knows, it's what she thinks love is 
>she will constantly move between being distant and threatening to leave until you've had enough and you stop fighting for her
>then she panics, feels like you're going to abandon her and desperately crawls back to you, making a thousand promises and sucking your dick

Repeat for the rest of your life.
--- 70637751
Went out with some people from work last week and there’s this girl who I’m pretty sure I have feelings for. I realized over the weekend that a day hadn’t gone by that I hadn’t thought of her. She seemed happy to see me when I came out and at one point when we were in a nightclub I was walking away from the group to go back outside and she grabbed my hand to dance. I don’t even know how to go about asking out a girl you work with. I feel like if this doesn’t work out I’m gonna have to just find a new job
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>>70637496
thanks based anon, I think I knew the answer on the inside but you articulated it in a better way than I ever could
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>>70636138
If you’re a woman, post boobs and belly, if you’re a fag, post ass (no homo). Either way, after that picture, get out. Also, you should go out with him either way fuck it.
--- 70637936
My Japanese girlfriend of a year is leaving me once we graduate college bc we’re going to different grad schools, I love her so much I don’t want to lose her
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>>70637051
long distance
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>>70637936
keep her bound and gagged in your basement
--- 70638097
I plan to remove gynecomastia surgically. Did anyone here do this?
--- 70638276
After 58 pounds lost this year, I’m currently drinking my first 6 pack of the year and just ordered Uber eats. Idk, it was a mixture of just looking for an excuse to “reward” myself, and it’s been a long week. I usually power through cravings and such, idk today just kinda worked out and I’m off tmrw and such. I’ll probably pay for this night on the scale for a few days. It is what it is.
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>>70637608
>>you cry and beg her to stay with you, you swear not to hurt her again
why the fuck would you cry to woman?
--- 70638294
24. "good" job. Live at home. drug addict. developing schizophrenia. Debilitating anxiety. suicidal thoughts. Any hope?
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>>70635268 (OP)
The brad in the room beats chad 5 miles away on tinder theory is 100% true
>be me
>have this hot redhead 20 year old Thot at work flirt with me all the time
>she would constantly go out her way to try to get me to talk to her
>she quits her job and a few months later I find her on tinder
>not even a like back
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>>70635653
Get some weed and modafinil
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>>70637205
bls resbond
over the course of attempting to court women I have gradually realized that everyone I know is an incel or has had like 1 gf that they didn't have to put in any effort for. nobody I know can actually give me any advice on hitting on girls
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>>70635862
Imagine the smell
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>>70636028
You're still young dude. Get away from your family and out on your own for a while
--- 70638522
Bros I had two interviews last week. I am only going to start going to the gym and talking to women after I get a job because I have no way to pay for those. I think that I did well in both but I'm still anxious. Can you pray for me or give me some encouragement?
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>>70637078
Usually guys say BPD when they're actually talking about a girl with cluster B personality traits. Google it
--- 70638609
BPD type exgf was insufferable
Still had increadible moments when she decided to commit 150% for awhile before returning to trying to destroy us because she thought I secretly hated her

Left her
Have talked to a few stable nice girls
No non-crazy girl will ever match the ex's energy during the high times
I'm broken
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>>70635268 (OP)
i started lifting a bit last week. i dont really know where to start with this kind of thing, so i just lift both of my 20 pound dumbbells about 40-50 times. im not sure if this is the correct way to do it or not. im doing 20-30 squats every other day while holding both of them. i have some stomach fat that im having trouble figuring out how to get rid of. im at a normal weight (6'6, 205 lbs), but that stomach fat is the only thing i havent found an answer for. i reduced the amount of sugary drinks i drink by about half, and im eating about 20% less at lunch since everything online said diet was the main cause of stomach fat.
--- 70638669
>woman I was going on a date with got mad at me for not being mad that she cancelled at the last minute
I'm not even sure what's going on anymore but I am happy she outed herself as someone I don't have to take seriously.
--- 70638693
I've been using this technique of looking away and making a disgusted face if I make eyecontact with a woman. They've been doing it to me for years and doing it back to them has been quite fun. Now I don't know how they react to it as I don't look at them again but I just hope I make one of them think twice before looking at others.
--- 70638739
I feel like I've been pushing to my absolute limit lately. Every single day I have maybe a half hour of free time at the end of the day and other than that am constantly in motion for about 16 hours straight 7 days a week. I can't remember the last leisurely activity I did, I haven't even watched TV in weeks. The closest thing to 'fun' in my daily schedule is zoning out and listening to music while on the treadmill or being able to sit down while taking a shower. I don't know how to stop; this is all through commitments. I don't necessarily feel stressed or frustrated, but I've been getting very irritable lately which is unlike me. I'm usually very non-confrontational to a fault but have been getting angry and snapping at people without a second thought. I'm getting more and more tired but am having a harder and harder time sleeping at night because my mind is still racing from being busy all day.

Also my roommate sets his alarm for 5:30 but just lets it ring until about 7:30 without even snoozing it. I asked him to stop but he keeps doing it, so I've rigged up my own alarm system that consists of a strobe light and a speaker pointed straight at his head that will flash and blast Venetian Snares starting at 5:31 and are positioned in such a way that he will be physically unable to disable them. At least I know that I can fall asleep to Venetian Snares, so I will turn the alarm off when I feel like it, probably around 7:30.
--- 70638744
>>70636283
I have Indian friends (Tamil Brahmins, a notoriously rigid culture) who have broken out of a similar situation to yours. 22 is not too late, but you need to gtfo your parents’ house asap. Just start doing what you want in your life, parents be damned. They’ll come around eventually, you’re their kid after all. Face your fears.
--- 70638745
>>70636196
I live in the suburbs of a progressive city and I've seen about 10 in my life. Most recently, last year, there was one dressed like a hooker walking his dog with full lipstick and rouge on his cheeks. The dude was at least 6'3 with stubble. Couldn't believe it. In my quiet part of town this absolute freak was walking free.
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>>70638739
are you a nuke
--- 70638766
nothing better than looking up some high school bitch you had a crush on and finding they are fat and have kids
--- 70638775
I’m lonely again.
>5 years single and celibate until couldn’t take it anymore, got with girl who kept trying to hmu the entire time (had several but they either moved several hours away or I was too anxious)
>relationship doesn’t go well, ends
>happy as hell for like 6 months after breaking up, feel liberated and enjoy my peace again
Idk if I just disliked her or if I genuinely prefer being alone usually, but I really hate feeling lonely. Just like this empty sadness where my normal distractions such as browsing here or scrolling or vidya or anime bore me so I brass’s I lay and stare at the ceiling for hours, and when I realize that isn’t working I go outside and smoke a bowl, get some fresh air, get high to sedate myself


Idk. I really don’t know what to do. This was supposed to me my redemption year where I get my hair in order. So was last year, and the year before that, and the year before that. I’ve made some minor progress over the years and lost progress elsewhere. The simple fact is all I have outside my father mother and sister is my two best friends who live down the street and nothing else. I want to be lean again. I don’t care if I have some top tier body I just want to be lean and healthy and look decent. I wish I wasn’t late 20s stuck living at home broke with my only real option being go back to school for another 3-5 years and then finally move out in my 30s like a fucking loser. I wish I didn’t continually have such shitty luck with women. I wish when I finally do attempt to put forth some effort it’s never simply hard like it would be for anyone else but instead the craziest obstacles appear to get in my way and make it even harder as if Im playing this shit on max difficulty. These depressive lows hit me from time to time and I hate it. I used to feel like crappy every single night. Now it’s about once a week. No one’s gonna read this essay, maybe to call me a faggot or something. Idk what the answer is. Idk what to do
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>>70638749
Feels like it
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>>70638781
remember it doesnt stop until you get out
enjoy
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>>70638766
>look up all my bullies
>all of them have happy families and good jobs
>none of them are losers
>none of them are addicted to meth or even living in a trailer
It's. Not. Fair. They were supposed to peak in highschool. I was supposed to go cocoon mode and become a chad and see them again working at walmart or something as I'm driving by in my bugatti. IT'S NOT FAIR
--- 70638830
>>70638739
>I don't necessarily feel stressed or frustrated, but I've been getting very irritable lately which is unlike me. I'm usually very non-confrontational to a fault but have been getting angry and snapping at people without a second thought. I'm getting more and more tired but am having a harder and harder time sleeping at night because my mind is still racing from being busy all day.
this was me most of last year. what do you do for a living? i had an extreme amount of stress on me for most of the year due to retards in upper management and engineering not understanding that projects need A HEADS UP rather than them bitching to the CEO because i said i might not be able to get their sudden major request(s) done within the extremely unreasonable and short deadline while still doing the mountain of shit in my normal workload. im known as a reasonable and nice person on site, but i lost my cool with some of them. i started getting very irritable and stern with these people any time they came to me with something. i also started telling them i dont have time to do their shit, and that they should have given me a heads up if they wanted it done by a certain time (this one led to them bitching to the CIO). eventually most of those people either got the point and fucked off, or they got fired or left. i dont think ive raised my voice at all at work since one of the last ones who consistently did it left.
--- 70638846
>>70638811
you're supposed to ACTUALLY cocoon mode nigga
I mog the shit out of almost everyone in my high school who isn't a college sports fag
in 10 years I will mog them too when they let themselves go
the average normie is incapable of getting to a level of strength and muscularity that you can if you just go to the fucking gym 2 or 3 times a week for the next 5 years
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>>70638846
esl or just lazy phoneposter? Either way stop posting.
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>>70638521
It’s a bit easier said than done but that’s my plan
>>70638744
Checked. I’m holding out a little bit longer since I think I can get a job that pays a good bit more, so I’ll be more stable when I finally fly the next, but I made a vow that come whatever, I’m out by the end of this year, ideally before I turn 23. 

For what it’s worth, I rarely bitch as much as this, I managed to cope rather well for the past few years but it was finally starting to sink in recently that my lifestyle is unnatural and downright inhumane in some ways. The worst part isn’t just missing things, it’s that opportunity was taken from me, opportunity that I could’ve enjoyed to the fullest.

I’ll admit I kind of like to use it as fuel for my edgelord fantasies of being a rich ceo bad guy. I can’t entirely promise I won’t one day be one of those corrupt elites that are discussed on this site, but I’ll be slightly more benevolent than the ashkenazim so long as my interests aren’t disturbed.
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>>70635932
just came back, awesome day.
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>>70638846
Tell me more about cocoon mode fren. I’m late 20s, have a ton of work to do health and physique wise, considering going back to school so idk how that would affect cocoon mode but either way a ton of work financially. But the school would last about 3-5 years.
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>>70638880
if your job is dead end go back to school asap and lift 3 times a week the entire time you are there
you will leave school jacked and be able to get a decent job, at a time of your life when most normies are starting to fall off hard as fuck (early 30s)
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>>70636844
I thought females would be less picky (read not expect a 9.5/10 guy) as I got older but they actually got more picky. Just date younger.
--- 70638908
I'm at a bar alone.

I'm playing a show here next month so I came to check out the space but I couldn't get a single person to come hang out with me. All of my friends are married. I would be married but got out of a long term relationship last fall and now I find myself very lonely. Looking around here, everyone is here having dinner and drinks with their friends. I'm just here observing. It's always been this way, even when I was young. I've always had lots of friends, I'm well-liked, etc but I find myself alone a lot. It's like I'm a secondary character who is in some episodes but I'm not a main cast member.

Anyway, hi /fit/ from the bar
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>>70637163
It's going to make most jobs better
>Researchers from Open AI| and the University of Pennsylvania argued in anew research report that 80 percent of the US workforce could have at least 10 percent of their work tasks affected by the introduction of ChatGPT.

Imagine not having to fuck around and schedule meetings. Why do I, an engineer, have to waste a single second looking at calendars doing admin BS. It's going to be tasked to do that first and it's going to be great
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>>70638908
Unless you bring friends to the bar be prepared to just randomly approach people unless you want to sit there by yourself
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>>70638889
Thanks bro. If I do this and get the type of career I want and at around 32 I’m great body wildlife biologist (won’t make me rich but I’ll enjoy what I’m doing) with maybe a business or two on the side, can I fuck 18-25 year olds instead of washed up women in their 30s?
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>>70638925
>can I fuck 18-25 year olds
if you're jacked and look decent 1000%
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>>70637936
don't let her get away
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>>70636657
increase your potassium, you are probably massively deficient on potassium and magnesium 
I myself have routinely 2scoops+ a day of keppi electrolytes (dr berg rip off) and all my previous aliments have passed.
--- 70638964
Im so fucking depressed man. I miss my friends. Moving away after college was a terrible idea. Its been 4 years and I still have no IRL friends. At least I have a gf but fuck man.

I sometimes play games with them online and get to see them maybe 2-3 times a year but its not enough.
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>>70638910
>why do I an engineer

HEY EVERYONE IM AN ENGINEER
DIDNI MENTION IM AN ENGINEER
IM SN ENGINEER BTW
ENGINEER
THATS ME AN ENGINEER
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>>70636657
>>Also 8/8 getting flaked out on dates this year, went on more last year than any year before but idk what changed
>>Ask girls out for coffee a few days in advance, check in with them the day before and "oops! I uh... feel bad!" and they disappear
are you talking to girls from dating apps
this is basically how it works yeah girls are fucking insufferable on those apps
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>>70638925
Yeah dude, you’re a loser on 4chan asking anonymous guys about going cocoon mode in your late 20s to fix your life while looking up the bullies from your high school days. You’ll totally be fucking so many hot young 18 year olds and become Chad
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>>70638910
you engineers are USELESS from my experience
>t. network admin
--- 70638981
>>70638811
Yeah the whole "bullies dont make it" thing is bullshit, bullies usually make it the hardest actually. Maybe that was true a long time ago but now we live in isolated society where hate is stronger than love. Being a jerk is beneficial.
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>>70638965
hit a nerve tradie? I'm actually an architect, but I didn't want to brag so I used a more lowly term you might understand :)
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>>70637163
Look the idea of things "takin our jobs" is nothing but fearmongering bullshit that people have been saying since the dawn of the industrial revolution. Capitalist society works by people purchasing goods and services, if the working class doesnt have purchasing power then the fat cats dont have people to sell their shit to and they lose money.

Job FIELDS will be affected but we're not going to live in some dystopia where half the country is on welfare. New industries will always create new jobs as much as they delete old ones.
--- 70639031
I saved for months to buy an Ohio Power Bar and when I finally ordered it the fucking Mexican customs office made it disappear, god I fucking hate this shit, we can't have nice things.
--- 70639064
>Getting on a diet again for the....

Hmmm, I don't know what number/attempt this is, but here we go again! This is the one, /fit/. I can feel it. I'm gonna lose those 30-40 lbs and then I'll feel happier and maybe get a girlfriend! Right now I'm just sick of my clothes not fitting and my pants squeezing the fuck out of my waist, also my stomach is starting to hang over my pants because they're too tight. I got some new ideas I'm gonna try, seems like every time I diet I learn something new or try something new, so eventually I'll find something that works or that I can stick with. I'd never do anything drastic/unhealthy, but sometimes I feel like I gotta push the envelope a bit. Desperate times, desperate measures and all that jazz. 

What's sad is it's just 30-40 lbs, which in the grand scheme of things isn't even a lot for most people, and yet I struggled to lose 10 lbs about 4-5 months ago. I'm just too addicted to fast food and junk food, also live alone and don't like cooking, even if it's simple. I wish there was a pill that would just kill my appetite but I know starving myself isn't the right way to lose weight either, even tried IF but couldn't stick with it because I was too hungry during the fasting times. 

I guess some stuff just doesn't work for everyone, I've had people tell me IF was a blessing for them, but it didn't work for me, but maybe I just wasn't committed enough or didn't eat the right things? In the end I know it's all a mind thing, when I was gung-ho and motivated like six months ago I was living a healthier lifestyle and losing weight, but I lost the motivation after about 3-4 weeks. It's like a manic/depressive condition. I couldn't make it into a habit, but for those 3-4 weeks I was eating healthier and doing healthier things, but then I fell off the wagon, which usually always happens.

So now I'm about to start again, and I guess we'll see how this new plan of mine works, I always got into it with positivity, it's tough though.
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>>70635268 (OP)
I decided to be social and go to a group meetup today. While i was there i met a stunningly beautiful woman and got her number. I actually enjoyed talking to her a lot too. She even used retarded and autistic as an insult so i know i dont have to filter myself. Good day boys. Keep trying to get yourself out there even if its hard. You never know who you’ll meet
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>>70639082
what kind of "group meetup"
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>>70637163
Its not intelligence. Its literally a database of trillions of things using linear algebra to return these things base on a query. The term artificial intelligence(AI) is a way for companies to transfer culpability from them to this "AI". No of course we didn't do X it was the string of algebra we programed to do X, entirely on its own!!!
"neural networks" "deep learning" "human like" "artificial intelligence" "metaverse" "smart weapons" all marketing buzzwords
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>>70636078
Eloquent and accurate
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>>70636094
Nigga u gay
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>>70639082
Nice larp
--- 70639275
This might sound a bit strange but I’m very close friends with a women who is much older than me and I love her like she were my sister. I don’t really think I feel any romantic feelings towards her but I dread ever losing her from my life. I think I would be devastated if she was gone. It is just nice to have someone close who isn’t biologically family or a girlfriend if that makes sense. She helped me grow up a bit in many ways and I feel like I would lose something if she wasn’t there. I don’t confide this to anybody but that’s the end of my blogpost.
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>>70635268 (OP)
Water please.
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>>70638893
Uh, anyone got a link to this weird old broad?
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>>70638964
Yeah I'm the anon who just posted about being in a bar alone. I feel you. I'm so lonely
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>>70638976
>while looking up the bullies from your high school days. You’ll totally be fucking so many hot young 18 year olds
That isn’t me. I guess I should have mentioned nta but I’ll pass your message along for you >>70638811 >>70638981 fucking GEEKS you’ll be losers forever.
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>>70639422
oops meant for
>>70638925
--- 70639461
>oops meant for
--- 70639481
this board is unironically the best way to ruin a good week
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>>70639176
>the concept of meeting someone is utterly unfathomable
You are the person I made that post for. Go outside and stop wallowing in self pity on the internet. There are opportunities out there for you if you work to find them
--- 70639548
I want to express my feelings to a girl, should I just man up and tell her? We will eat lunch soon, maybe I should confess after the lunch when we walk together? That was my plan. What do you think?
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>>70639548
How much are you gonna express? Dont go into a soliloquy. Just be tell her you fancy her and would like to consider being more than friends. Im assuming you already have a friendly relationship with her. If shes new just ask her out. Dont wall of text her is my point4x4dd
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>>70637037
Many girls claim it just to excuse shitty spoiled behaviour.

I'm a dude and have it. The only way I can explain it is like normal people have a faucet of emotions that turns on to give them just enough water to wash their hands with then turns off again, while BPD is like having a dam of emotions explode in your head from certain things sending your brain into fight or flight mode thinking something extreme is happening because only something extreme could trigger this sort of chemical dump and you'll operate on that.

You DO NOT "lose control" like your brain is hijacked by a demon or some shit. Your choices are your own at all times, but you do completely lose perspective because non-life or death things become life or death feeling. I imagine this is why girls with it do crazy shit, because it feels as drastic as all or nothing. Main cause is abandonment issues which is why breakups and stuff often trigger it.

 I discovered this rabbit hole because I had verbally lashed out with some crazy shit at someone and decided I needed some kind of counselling or anger management. I then went down the breadcrumbs trail finding the root of my anger outburst was abandonment because I would ONLY become angry when someone betrayed/hurt/abandoned me. This then lead to discovering what BPD is and I hit all 9 of the criteria for it when only a few are necessary for diagnosis.
--- 70639613
>>70639548
>I want to express my feelings
>to a girl

Never, under any circumstances, do this. Nothing makes a girl's pussy drier than British comedy like knowing a guy is into them before they're into him.
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>>70639613
ok then adonis how is one meant to initiate a sexual relationship with a girl without them ever figuring out you're into them
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>>70639627
>>70639613
furthermore like 70% of the reason guys even talk to girls is to try and date them so if he's going out of his way to talk to some chick that otherwise wouldn't know him it's already quite obvious
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>>70639600
>while BPD is like having a dam of emotions explode in your head from certain things sending your brain into fight or flight mode thinking something extreme is happening because only something extreme could trigger this sort of chemical dump and you'll operate on that.

>You DO NOT "lose control" like your brain is hijacked by a demon or some shit. Your choices are your own at all times, but you do completely lose perspective because non-life or death things become life or death feeling. I imagine this is why girls with it do crazy shit, because it feels as drastic as all or nothing. Main cause is abandonment issues which is why breakups and stuff often trigger it.

>I discovered this rabbit hole because I had verbally lashed out with some crazy shit at someone and decided I needed some kind of counselling or anger management. I then went down the breadcrumbs trail finding the root of my anger outburst was abandonment because I would ONLY become angry when someone betrayed/hurt/abandoned me. This then lead to discovering what BPD is and I hit all 9 of the criteria for it when only a few are necessary for diagnosis.
Bruh this feels like a diagnosis to me.. started therapy recently should I mention it?
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>>70639627
Get her into you first.
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>>70639667
Is she not going to basically make her decision within the first few conversations you have?
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>>70639674
She likely will decide extremely quickly. Generally you can't talk your way into pussy if she initially doesn't like you, but you can easily talk your way out of it if she initially does.
--- 70639721
I got my dick sucked by a skinny long-haired smooth-body chinese twink off grindr tonight. No homo. Bartender, I'll have a captain and diet coke
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>>70637608
Can manifest in guys too. I know this couple where both sides have BPD. Dude's born from an affair between some rich businessman with his mistress. The girl's mother is a gold-digger who divorce raped her dad. Both are headcases of attachment issues. It was the most toxic codependent shit I've ever seen in my entire life. 

God help the children if they ever decide to have any, because that's gonna be one fucked up kid.
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>>70639548
>
you watched far too much anime for your own good
--- 70639782
You guys are faggots I want you to know this
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>>70639585
I won't walltext her. I want to be more than friends with you while holding her hand. If you don't want thats ok. Thats that.
>>70639613
>>70639765
I don't watch chinese cartoons. Also, how am I supposed to get a girl if I don't even talk with her? I am not going to write a letter of love to her, just saying I like her companionship and want to be more than friends.
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>>70637163
not for as long as you can gaslight it into believing 2+2=5
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>>70636549
you're at less than half of your life expectancy and far less than half of your adult life you imbecile. let go of your relative perceptions in regards to hindsight and start figuring out what you want to do. you need 4-8 years to train for the most highly prerequisite-intense careers so get your fucking ball rolling, i've seen old ladies 60+ taking college courses you lazy demoralized bastard
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>>70637037
Its very real and its one of the few mental illnesses where you need meds to function in society. See: Kanye going apeshit crazy recently (i know some fag here is gonna get triggered by that)

I think its really overrepresented on social media because women with BPD tend to have attention seeking behaviors. Women with BPD also are more likely to be perpetually online because they have issues holding steady relationships IRL. So thats why you see it so often on the internet, mentally sane people arent usually perpetually online.
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>>70637037
it's an excuse people use for a lack of emotional self control and/or discipline. some people are more prone to embrace such a lifestyle based on their brains or their experiences but doing so results in it getting to the point of needing meds, a psyche ward, or a prison. don't let your neurons develop like shit because it feels good
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>>70637936
time to figure out what the two of you will compromise, hopefully not each other if you think they're the love of your life
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>>70637936
If she loved you she would make it work. She's wanted to break up for a long time and is using this as an excuse.
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>>70637037
it’s the bitches with childhood trauma you have to worry about. bleeds into all the relationships going forward
--- 70640020
>be me
>go on a date with a nice lady
>petite brunette, little chubby but great rack
>go to asian place nearby
>she complains about the food
>keeps telling me dumb stories about her coworkers I don't know
>take her back to my place
>get her upstairs in bed
>give her a thirty-minute massage, she complains about that too
>not interested in anything but missionary
>she cums in three minutes then rolls over and goes to sleep
>decide I don't want to ask her on another date
>remember our fourteenth wedding anniversary is next week
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>>70640020
>>she cums in three minutes
larp
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>>70639864
No I won’t be going back to school. I attended college right out of years of hard studying thru high school and it turned out it was a lie and I was a complete retard. Now I’m completely brain dead.
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>>70640039
You get pretty good at fucking the same woman after being together almost two decades anon. Especially when she doesn't give a flying fuck whether you get off or not
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>>70640066
I thought u were talking about your first date
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>>70640020
so this is marital bliss huh?
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>>70635268 (OP)
went to the bar tonight, it was one of the most depressing fucking experiences of my life. I wasn't super feeling it but I figured my brother never usually wants to go and today he did so fuck it, but tonight was just awful. It's so bad when you ask girls to dance and they reject you, I asked a fuckable chick to dance and she walked away, another group of average chicks blew me off, a fucking fat 2/10 black chick with glasses told me to go away after I started dancing with her. Killed my confidence, I didn't want to do anything for the rest of the night, and nobody approached me. Just a humble reminder that I'm not shit.
can't get any wins in this life. Everything I've done is not good enough, it's just so damn fucking awful and painful.
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>>70635296
Hey man me too. In my case it's my abusive on again off again ex and close friend. Finally realized she was a piece of shit that only ever tore me down while seeking validation and help from me. After months of silence I get a "hello" from her. Nope. 
Cut ties with shitty people in your life fellas. Don't let them drag you down. Lift heavy ass weight and live your best life. We're all gonna make it brahs.
--- 70640375
Do you have a gf/wife?
>broke up with gf of 6 years
>everyday we would be messaging each other nonstop even while at work
>whenever we weren't sleeping together in the same room, we would always find time to call each other before going to sleep
Were we just too clingy with each other or is this something common?
Asking because I don't know how to dating works anymore or how two people progress from that phase.
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>>70639830
you have zero experience with girls dont you?
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>>70640020
happy wife happy life amiright fellas
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>>70640020
Man why would she be such a selfish lover? Its like she wants you to cheat on her.
--- 70640419
I was really on the way to quitting smoking completely when the menthols got me.
Now, I bought a pack of additive-free ones and they're horrible. Can't smoke more than two per day. I don't think I'll finish this box, I'll just throw them away tonight when I take out the trash.
The last bastion is not smoking when drinking and I managed to do that yesterday.
Wish me luck, bros.
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>>70640375
Surely something happended for it to suddenly end after 6 years?

Most relationships end after 2-3 years.

But I mean, there's several women at my work that is 50+ with kids and all that suddenly divorce.
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>>70638609
>Left her
>Have talked to a few stable nice girls
>No non-crazy girl will ever match the ex's energy during the high times
>I'm broken
I know how you feel bro. I miss my bpd batshit insane gf at her peaks
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>>70640464
I ended it on my own, I have my reasons.
Now I'm just really clueless about how dating works for guys going into their 30s because I spent almost my entire 20s with this one single chick, and before that I never really "dated" anyone, all I did was just sleep around and ghost people.
As I type this, I'm starting to realize that I'm just overthinking this shit.
--- 70640591
>extremely difficult month at work, worked over 27 days
>no gym, fitness and cardio is bad
>this month, somehow start dating a girl
>she does 13 mile runs regularly, great legs and stamina
>i am now terrified that she'll be disappointed at my lack of gains and cardio
time to do c25k again and hope she doesnt leave before then
she is extremely out of my league but her personality is S++ tier, and i genuinely don't know what i've managed to do to get her interest
--- 70640605
>>70640559
Let me give it to you straight boss.
The dating game being shit is not some meme, esp. during/after covid, the whole world changed.
Women don't really care much for dating like you are used to, being able to find a somewhat normal girl when you are 30+ is gonna be hard. Everything has changed and women now think they are all high value because they get 100+ matches on dating apps instantly (see those YT vids where guys test it) it's insane. I'm not trying to be a doomer but with social media and dating apps exploding the past 5 years or so, every girl now wants chad or think they deserve some rich guy they can travel with etc. Good luck out there, ya gonna need it.
--- 70640613
I'm sorry if there's a lack of coherency to all of this but I just have a lot I need to get off my chest.

I'm in love and have been a weird pseudo relationship with a girl who was my ex back in freshman year of high school. 
I've known her for almost 10 years now, and she for some reason, refuses to love me despite me caring for her for all those years.
 I'm no saint mind you and have fucked up my fair few times but what bothers me is that she chooses to hold these negatives against me like I'm some sort of asshole who's always mean. 
It makes me bitter towards her since all I've ever wanted was to be loved by someone I've suffered so much for. This aggravation has also led me to fuck up even more and act out, only adding fuel to the already damning fire.
The worst of it is that she seems to be infatuated by some fat Mexican dude who lives in Texas that she's only ever talked with online, but plans to meet in person later in early June, her main reason for loving him is that he's "caring and sweet".
For context, she used to suffer with severe depression back in highschool and would cut herself. I used to comfort her but at some point it got annoying since she'd have an episode a day at worst. I decided to go with the tough love approach shortly after and forcefully took away her cutting instruments and gave her methods of occupying her time to prevent these depressive episodes from happening so frequently, mainly in the form of video games and reading material. It worked for the most part and I didn't need to constantly reassure her anymore after that, not to mention that she also got much better and stable after we graduated. 
Going back to my point, I stopped being constantly caring and sweet because it wasn't working. 
I don't know what to do and feel like giving up. I've considered leaving everything behind to join the military or even suicide since I wasted so many years of my life on a single person who will never value me as much as I value them.
--- 70640619
>>70640591
Tell her you lift a lot but you are shit at cardio and would like for her to teach you how to get into cardio you mongol, this is literally perfect for you and gives you something to talk about.
--- 70640621
>>70640613
>refuses to love me despite me caring for her for all those years.
Stopped reading here. Just because you (still) feel for her doesn't mean she needs to feel the same way.
Move on.
--- 70640624
>>70640613
Bro, wtf?
You are like a puppy to her and she knows this, she knows that if she gives you attention you will submit to her, you are literally her backup if all else fails. Get over yourself, get over her. Fucking hell man, it's one girl, there's plenty of bitches out there. Focus on yourself mang and stop giving her any attention anymore.
--- 70640658
>>70635908
I'd go with you, anon. It's been agood while since I've had the chance to wild out at a concert. I live in NY, where are you based?
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>>70640619
she has already seen me naked anon she knows damn well i don't lift a lot
it doesnt seem like a good idea to ask her to train me before i'm at at least a respectable level of cardio
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>>70640621
>>70640624
Yeah, I wish it was that easy to do. Dating just scares the fuck out of me because of how bad with women I am.
I've actually tried breaking away in the past but I always seem to attract crazy women who are genuinely horrifying.
My last attempt had this anorexic girl trauma dumping on me during the third date and later having people watch me to make sure I was serious about dating her. I hate to compare it to this but it was some real yandere type shit, she even showed up to my job asking if I was really working there.
--- 70640810
I don’t know where else to turn for advice. I apologize for the extremely personal post.
>be me
>with girl for 7 years
>form life around her; school, job, location 
>everything is working just perfectly
>we move in together in the spot we chose to spend the rest of our lives
>engaged
>my sister chooses us to baptize her daughter, my niece 
>she gets a job in our new location
>she dumps me and moves in with a new bf 
>still hangs around my sister and niece
>my sister sees no problem with hanging out with her, “anon it’s your niece’s godmother!” 
>this woman is the reason I struggle with depression and suicidal thoughts 
>she fucking casually has lunch with my sister and niece on a weekly basis
>I want to forget about her like she doesn’t exist
>next week is my niece’s birthday
>my family (not my sister) has informed me that my ex fiancée will be attending because she was invited by my sister
>I’m building a hatred toward my sister that I’ve never felt, I’ve always loved her and been very close and trusting with her
>I feel like not attending the birthday party and being the bad guy just to avoid all this shit
>”but anon just get over it and be the bigger person” 
>idk what to do at this point
--- 70640908
>>70640810
You have to find a new gf, anon. Only reason why this shit gets so much to you is because you haven't found someone new.
During that time, I suggest you keep contact with your sister to a bare minimum. You perfectly justify this by saying you can't get over her if she's continuously coming back into your family life. If your sister doesn't get it and chooses her above her own brother, you have every right to cutting both of them out of your life.
Have a lot of no-strings-attached sex to get your confidence back, hit the gym or do something productive to work towards and eventually, you'll find someone better. And then you're over it in no time.
Also, no offense but your sister sounds like a horribly insensitive bitch tbqfhwyfam
--- 70641086
As I look outwards into society and the general absurd state of the world I feel shackled as I'm unable to do anything to prevent it from decaying, I want to have a family, community, and god but that's been all denied. Even if I'm able to father children in the future (which is looking unlikely because of the death of traditionalism) it won't be guaranteed that they'll find hope. I am only 18 and to know it's all going to get worse makes me despondent about everything. I can only watch as it all collapses slowly.
--- 70641144
>>70640810
I mean, you aren't wrong in the way you are feeling. It's extremly weird for your sister to be like "Oh no worries they have history, she's my bestie!" like bitch, family is always more important and she should accept that and drop all contact to your ex. 
>She's your nieces godmother!
Who gives A SHIT? It means nothing these days
--- 70641150
>>70640810
Your sister is a terrible person and your family are retards. You aren't crazy. It makes no sense that they would prioritize a friend over the mental health of a family member, and any person who isn't an idiot will know that after a break up most people would be super sensitive to being around their ex. 
I'm not an expert so don't take my advice, but if I were you I wouldn't go to the party and would tell them exactly why. Not telling them why would likely reflect badly on you since they obviously lack insight. You don't have to go into great detail like about the depression etc.
--- 70641400
I want to start my own business, dropshipping my designs with a shopify page. but I'm so fucking pussy about it, I just can't get myself to just open it, I think about all that could go wrong and the costs that I will have etc......HELP
--- 70641414
>>70641086
I feel so sorry for the youngsters who have this experience. yes, many things are shit and goals like owning a home seem distant right now. but nowadays we are also more aware of all the shit, because in the past there was no internet and social media. so people just did not know about the shit that went down. being depressed about it will not help anyone. you need to be part of the action to make a change. find your way of doing that. make your voice heard.
--- 70641428
I've had three major fuckups in the last year, I hardly see my friends anymore, and I'm trading the lifestyle I've always dreamed of for money. My future is very uncertain and spending months on end in 100 percent isolation probably wasn't a good idea but I really want to go back to it at this point.
I was the happiest I ever was last summer then I absolutely blew it and I just don't seem to have much faith anymore.
--- 70641622
>>70641086
Stop believing this bullshit. Do what your can in your sphere of influence. Help others around you and be nice without expecting things in return.
The reason you're so hopeless is because all of the things you want are things outside of yourself and that you have limited control over. Just like when playing a game against someone you don't know, you can either aim to defeat him (outside of your control if he's a prodigy) or aim to play the best you possibly can (completely in your control).
Life's not out to get you.

>t. been there
--- 70641649
>>70641414
Wise sage comment. 

Looking into the void pulls you into it. Its only by making sense of it through maybe religion or philosophical understanding or simply ignoring the crushing void like most normies can you really progress instead of obsessing over whatever this seemingly unavoidable thing in your life is. 

>>70640613
Mentally ill women are the worst. Dont talk to them, dont love them. That was your mistake. They will drain you of everything and feel nothing for you. This is what she is doing and although she isnt "evil" neccisarily just mentally ill she will still take everything you have drop you and throw you away when you break like a tool and see nothing wrong with it. Bipolar bitches are crazy 

To put their mind into perspective they are like psychopaths, they dont care if anything is "right" or "wrong". They care about what affects them because they are causal creatures. If souls existed id point to the vast majority of mentally ill bitches and say they have no souls at all not even a speck. Because they think like animals but even animals can have some love especially dogs these bipolar women are like lizards but with high social intelligence like a human. They dont really have the concept of thankfulness or debt. They just do whatever feels best at any given timd. You arent good enough for her and she wants the best man she can get and no amount of kindness will change that. What you need to do is treat her how she is used to which is porbably and sadly a rough treatment. I dont mean hit her of course you just have to be direct and put all the cards on the table. Dont try to guilt trip her with all you have dond thanklessly because that will makd her defensive. Just ask her to date you and be your girlfriend and say you will leave her or something shocking to that effect she wont take you seriously otherwise.
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>>70640810
it makes no sense your sister does this, she cares more about this girl than she does for you so I would cut her out of my life, your sister is a psycopath
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>>70641400
you're 10 years late dude
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>>70641086
You need to stop living online. The world isn't as bad as you think
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>>70639585
Tell her you wanna date her. Tell her you love her after you have dated for a while. If youre stable and you wanna have a future with her, then you can talk about your actual emotions, but only when they concern your relationship.
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>>70642147
Meant for 
>>70639548
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>>70638981
Bullies being losers later is cope made up by "American" filmmakers who can't understand that they were not the good guy.
The bullies picked on you because you were weird and weak and not like them.

They are well loved, they're not stupid, they're not wrestling with basic shit like the bullied are.
All of that is just cope from filmmakers. What yiu saw as Bullies in school were just pest control, keeping maladjusted kids in their place. Because the alternative is twitter.
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>>70641943
so what should I do then. I want to sell AI designs. thats a new thing
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>found out father has been off his meds for weeks now
>situation at home is becoming an absolute trainwreck
>last time this happened he was threatening to kill himself
is there a most miserable time when you're trying to help someone you love but who doesn't want help and refuse to acknowledge they needs help?
I can't even think of a single positive moment I spent with him and the only thing clouding my mind was the time he screamed at my mom that he hasn't been happy once since my older sibbling was born
I don't hate my father and I don't want to hate him, but this genuinely sounds like the end of the line
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>>70639600
Well fuck. I might be this too.
Growing up I'd get disregulated by fairly small things, probably abandonment related and I'd find it impossible to snap out of it, I felt like this extreme side of me made a lot of good points.

It was always like
>am I overreacting to this?
>or am I usually just able to ignore this thing that IS actually a big deal

And its genuinely hard to tell in the moment, it feels life or death.
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>>70639830
You don't give them an easy out if you want them to say yes, dumbass.
I know youre preoccupied trying to be "a good guy" and putting zero pressure on her, you think she and anybody within earshot will appreciate it.

She won't, they won't.
You think you'll come off as confident, like
>wanna go out? I can take it or leave it, just thought I'd ask
But you'll come off as low self esteem like
>wanna go out? I know I'm not the best looking guy or whatever so if not, I get it.

Don't confess. It's a mistake. You shouldn't have to.
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>>70642167
It's not this simple, anon. There a definitely bullies who are cowards and only bully people to hide their own failings. They certainly can be successful in life but they can also fail miserably. 

Sometimes people are just shitty as teenagers and they can be different altogether as adults.
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>>70636028
>How awful it is when the only thing stopping you from being Chad was your own family
I think you're lying to yourself. I've known many chads with strict families. No parent can watch over you 24/7. Why didn't you make out with girls in school? You seriously believe you couldn't get that as a chad and hide that from your parents? So many girls and dudes hide things from their parents... And they never even know. It's also easy to confront your parents as long they are not literal psychos who will beat and starve you. Also, why not be chad now then? Are your parents hinging your ability to text girls? Or is it always you trapping yourself?
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>>70642170
Hahahahhahaha
Sure dude sell ai images
--- 70642790
I'm traveling to Spain for a few months this summer as part of my university's exchange program. Do I have any hope at meeting a Spanish cutie as a 6' American dyel with extremely poor Spanish speaking skills? Even if your answer is no, if you have an experience meeting women in foreign countries please share any tips you can think of. I want to at least try my luck, I have nothing to lose.
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>>70642790
im spanish
its really simple, are you attractive? then yes
are you not attractive? then no
spanish girls are no different to girls from any other western country, maybe more sociable and open but not easier or harder
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>>70641086
37 here and I feel that way too. It's very sad to think back to when I was young and full of hope. The economy started tanking in 2008, just as I was getting out of college. Shits been going downhill ever since, but 2020 really way the last nail in the coffin for any kind of normalcy. Sucks man
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>>70640613
>I'm in love and have been a weird pseudo relationship with a girl who was my ex back in freshman year of high school.
>I've known her for almost 10 years now, and she for some reason, refuses to love me despite me caring for her for all those years.
O shit nigga what are you doing???

>I wasted so many years of my life on a single person who will never value me as much as I value them.
At least you've come to that realisation, now move on and live your life. Dying for Israel or committing sudoku are not it however. You're not in love with her, you have a persisting infatuation with her and are trying to rationalise the time and effort you sunk into this relationship "well duh it must be love".
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>>70642815
I guess what I'm asking is more along the lines of "do I even have a chance if I'm American and my Spanish is shit?". I understand that most Spaniards can speak English fluently, but what I'm wondering is if me knowing virtually no Spanish whatsoever will become a hindrance. I get that the basic laws of attraction still apply overseas, and I definitely don't expect Spanish women to be easier than the women here.
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>>70639138
I disagree, you should check out the 'sparks of AGI' paper. Of course Microsoft have motivations to hype up the tech but I think its pretty clear its more than just a complicated database. Check this out

https://youtu.be/qbIk7-JPB2c [Embed]
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>>70642904
also 37 and iktf all too well. the hopefulness pre-'08 and then suddenly it was over.
--- 70643361
I can never relate to people talking about how much they love their mother or their grandparents. I feel like I’m so different for this, I dread visiting my grandparents and I don’t like my mom very much. Like, we can talk, but I don’t feel the need to ever hug her or anything. I wonder if I’m missing out on something.
--- 70643395
I want to give up on my career goal.
Ever since middle school I’ve wanted to be a professional pilot. When I graduated high school I used my scholarship money to get my private pilot certificate and it was a blast but I didn’t have enough money to continue then.
Now I’m going to community college and working part time, living at home and saving money, but I’m so miserable. I graduate in one year and I have $23,000 saved, I need ~$70,000. I have no idea how I’d make it. I don’t know if it’s even worth it. I don’t even have friends or been dating or anything cause I want to save money. I’m about to be 22, done with college, and I’ve done nothing.
I will have an IT degree but I have no interest in the field. I just don’t think being a pilot is realistic unless I’m rich or I’m willing to join the military… even then, I hear people online talk about the airline career as if it’s not as good as people say it is. They make it sound miserable.
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>>70643091
Spaniards don’t have good English level
You’ll have to learn, Spanish is an easy lenguaje to learn
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>>70637037
it's definitely real. you'll know it when you see it (the incredibly dramatic mood swings are the biggest sign). a lot of "normal" women end up in relationships by the end of college and certainly by 30 or so, so after a certain point the dating scene begins to have a significant amount of women with mental illness
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>>70643437
>Spaniards don’t have good English level
Really? I spoke to a professor who's from Spain and he insisted that anyone below the age of 40 probably knows perfectly passable English.
>You’ll have to learn, Spanish is an easy lenguaje to learn
I took 5 years of Spanish classes in grade school and failed to absorb anything outside of "donde esta" and "me nombre es", I'm fucked. I can read it pretty well because I have time to process what I'm looking at, but when it comes to speaking and listening I'm hopeless.
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>never worked out or dieted, looked good and felt good
>30th birthday
>a wizard casts a spell on me while I sleep
>always tired, gain weight, joint and back pain, bad reflux
>try to diet, can't concentrate, become agitated, alienate friends
>try to exercise, get injured, get hemorrhoids, embarrass myself in public

Life ends at 30.
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>>70640390
>>70642216
>>70642147
Its true that I don't have much experience with woman. But how the fuck am I supposed to get a romantic relationship with a girl if I don't tell her my feelings? I do want a serious relationship with her. There has been missed opportunities on my behalf which teached me that I have to seize the opportunity while I still can. My plan is:
>Get a cup of coffee with her also have biscuits with me
>Lie down on grass together with her and start eating biscuits and coffee
>Tell her that I think she is a beautiful girl and I want to be more than friends with her. 
>Add that I can understand if she doesn't want to be, we can still stay friends (We obviously won't and I will turn the cold shoulder to her whenever she talks/messages me) 
That is the overall plan. When I say "confess" I don't mean singing a love ballad to her. I plan doing this in a very casual manner. But I can't get a romantic relationship with her if I don't fucking talk about it. What do you suggest?
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>>70643629
Dont say that shit about you wanting to be friends, whats the point. Also, telling someone your feelings should come after you have been intimate with them, whether kissed or fucked. Ask her out on a date and get more physical and then kiss her, congrats, youre now dating. Tell her you want her to be your girlfriend once you have done that and seen her for a bit. Best if you've already fucked her before that
--- 70643773
is law school worth it if you it's a decent school and I have a 90% tutition scholarship? i'm ttired of working manual labor jobs and this feels like a big break
>t. 26 year old with no other options
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>>70643682
You are telling a sick person to just be healthy. It doesn't work. What you do on instinct, he has to force, and it's hard and scary and probably won't come out right.
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>>70643773
Yes, especially with that sort of scholarship. I'm sure you're very aware of this already, but law school is very difficult. If you can bare the bullshit and and study as hard as you can you will open up future career opportunities that make insane amount of money. Good luck anon.
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>>70643773
Just learn to code.

t. dropped out of school and make 3x average wage pretending to work from home
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>>70643682
We are from a conservative country and we both have conservative backgrounds. Pre-maritial sex is very uncommon. I don't think she has ever kissed a boy before either. So I can't just take her to home willy nilly. But if you are advising me to take the initiative and be more forceful I can take a peck on her cheeks or forehead.
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>>70643815
thx for the advice. do you have a JD? how's it worked out for you?
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>>70635730
Probably not worth it. I won't moralize to you but a girl that young would be very immature and pretty nuts. Do you remember high school girls' drama and pettiness? That is what you are inviting into your life. Seriously after the honeymoon phase wears off you will probably regret it.
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>>70643833
Dont want you to get flogged for rape, I cant tell how dating works in your cultural context so take what I said with a grain of salt. Good luck bro, love is wonderful, hope you find it
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>>70643882
Kek I know that I live in a more traditional country compared to Anglo Saxon context but I don't live in a sharia country either. What am I even supposed to do now?
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>>70643903
Offer 2 bulls for her, to her father.
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>>70643874
I do not, however my parents are both lawyers (both workplace lawyers, not sure what the real title is) and I have a friend working towards his JD right now. He keeps me updated on his workload, and like I said, it's a lot. However he also sends me job listings, there are firms that hire straight out of law school offering six or close to six figure salaries.
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>>70642337
>Or is it always you trapping yourself?
You might be right. I think its called "learned helplessness". Since I never had the choice to myself, it was hard to break free of it even when the rare chance came up.

When it's all you're used to, and you never really got any female attention until more or less the end of high school, you have no idea what to do with it. There were girls, some very cute, who made it easy for me, but I never managed to break out of my psyche and go beyond a bit of flirting.

I even withdraw from dudes that wanna be friends since I'm unsure of where to even begin with them. Even just friends would improve my life a lot. Several guys even assume I get laid, so when it comes up, I just go "Haha yeah, girls love X about me and I love doing Y to them in the bedroom" , them not knowing I'm a total fraud.

There's no one I'd like to fuck at my workplace really since they're mostly old people, and I'm kind of just looking to move out at this point. One way or another, I'll muster up the strength to leave. I have to.
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>>70643903
Just go with your original plan, if it blows up in your face fuck it. You live and you learn, at least you tried. But dont say that shit about being friends, thats wrong no matter where you're from.
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>>70643927
You are right. I will just say I want to be more than friends with her while holding her hand. It fails if it fails no reason to dwell on it.
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>>70640605
From my experience this is only true on dating apps fwiw. 31, meet in person and theyre much more reasonable and “human”. Dating apps are dead. Its all riff raff, copers, wannabe sugar babies, literally insane women. All the good ones are off the apps since theyre sick of them post covid. This is corroborated by the women i know platonically as well so not just me pulling this out of my ass
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>>70643874
nigga the fuck is a bottle of Jack gonna help him? This nigg gon' drank it all?
--- 70644013
I feel totally alienated by the morals and ethics of normalfags. I have zero interest in casual sex, drinking a shit ton and getting loud and rowdy, using drugs, going to parties, et cetera, and don't particularly care if I'm not looksmaxxed enough to w rizz a baddie shawty or whatever the fuck. 
Leave me alone.
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>>70644013
I hate these things too, but I feel like I have no chance of meeting people if I don't do them. I already don't do them, and I have no friends and never speak to women.
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>>70644035
I'm completely okay with not meeting anyone. I don't hate people or socializing, but if the choice is between doing this kind of stuff to meet people and remaining alone then I choose the latter.
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>>70644055
Minimizing stress and pain is a more sustainable strategy than optimizing growth and pleasure.
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>>70644055
Being alone is a sure way to become depressed
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>>70644131
"Becoming depressed" is an idea that nornalfags were psyopped into believing exists so that medical companies could sell them expensive treatments and drugs.
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>>70644151
You absolutely can cause hormonal imbalances through your behavior. I thought on this board people would know.
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>>70644151
Youre retarded
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>>70640810
just start ignoring your family
send a message, completely cut them off
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>>70644168
"Hormonal imbalances?" By whose standard? 
I have zero trust for the word of a medical industry whose backbone is drug companies with vested interests in there being as many treatable conditions in the population as possible. Get the fuck outta here.
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I've made it physique wise (thots approach me) and I'm more demotivated than ever, because this proves definitely that it's my autism keeping me from getting laid, not my body. Skipped gym two days in a row after going daily for two years
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>>70636138
So he's a twink, isn't that like 90% of you people?
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>>70635268 (OP)
I keep failing to quit drinking. I feel like I'm stuck in a loop and every time I relapse I get this feeling like it's going to kill me soon. But it's like there's a part of me that wants that to happen, and I guess that's why I keep going back to the bottle. I did everything right bros. How do I break free
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>>70644374
Me, but with sugar in general.
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>yet again I've fallen in love with an unobtainable woman

I've 35, does this shit ever end? I suppose it's good that I can feel something and I'm not completely dead on the inside.
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>>70643395
yeah it is miserable. what did you do, part 61? part 141 is where you get to meet all the rich kids who have parents either paying for their flight school, or getting a free ride due to a parent giving their GI bill money to the kid to do flight school. they will not give you a break. job prospects are shit and dont pay anything until you have been in the industry for 10+ years because those same kids with rich parents work for basically nothing in terms of pay while their parents continue to support them. im willing to answer any questions you have.
also, if you arent good at networking with people, you are somewhat fucked in aviation. theres plenty of autists who cant network, and you will be competing with the mountain of them for shitty jobs like flying 50-60 year old planes that are barely airworthy for sky diving places.
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>>70644423
That's one way to look at it, but why is she unobtainable?
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>>70644450
She has a long term partner and I can't imagine she would leave him.
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>>70644460
You should imagine, because that shit does happen.

If you stop thinking of things as impossible and instead think of them as possible but incredibly unlikely or difficult, even that's a giant change in mentality.
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>>70644423
>fallen in love
Anon, infatuation is not love. You fall in love after like a year of dating and seeing if you fit together. You're just horny.
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>>70644696
This anon is right. Oneitis is not love, its not real, youre just lonely and in your head