----- --- 92822279 Dead tech or the future of networking? --- 92822322 >>92822279 (OP) why is the entire earth thailand? --- 92822566 >>92822322 that's america retard --- 92822570 >>92822279 (OP) my personal schizo theory is that the internet is going to bifurcate, with the mobile world finally moving to v6 after like a decade (to the point where mobile internet won't even give you a v4, even a CGNATted one) while the fixed wireline world of desktops and servers stays resolutely dual-stack and ensures that v4 never goes away, ever --- 92822579 >>92822322 Always has been --- 92822591 >>92822570 Literal this --- 92823630 It's 40% of Google's global traffic and 74% of their french traffic. --- 92823804 >>92822570 Where I live it's exactly the opposite. ISPs are switching to IPv6 while mobile carriers are all still on IPv4. In a few days I'll have a /60 IPv6 block from my new 5 gigabit fibre line. --- 92824426 >>92822279 (OP) obviously the future, there is no question about it. The only question is when. Probably soon. --- 92824750 >>92822279 (OP) might become the future now that the feddy gov is mandating it for federal networking bs other than that I think all the various schemes/implementations around IPv4 make it eternal if we want it to be. I uhh, would also rather type a IPv4 address than even a shortform IPv6 so...I hope not. --- 92825383 >even IP addresses are becoming soulless it's over the jews took all of it --- 92825877 >>92823804 Europe here. Even brand new fixed line networks don't have IPv6 while mobiles do. There's also one weirdity with mobiles >want a reachable IPv4 >buy extra 2€/month for it >don't have IPv6 any more --- 92825912 Roku still only supports ipv4 and it is a big problem for small isps who can't afford ipv4 address blocks for their customers. What we need is for a major porn site to go ipv6 only, that will force adoption. --- 92826105 >>92822279 (OP) ipv6 is.... LE BAD! because it's way easier to ban a user if their "dynamic" IP is actually its own range that nobody else uses. With ipv4 everyone is in it together, in the mix, so there's no way of banning one canadian user without range banning half of canada --- 92826202 >>92826105 Banning single IPv4s is equivalent to one /64 in IPv6. --- 92826317 >>92826202 Welp, looks like I only have access to one /32 on ipv6 When I used to have ipv4 i could get any ip in a few different /11 --- 92826329 >>92825383 never again will you manually write the numbers instead of copy and paste >SOVL vs soulless --- 92826522 >>92826317 Yeah, IPv4 addresses tend to come from bigger pools as the address space is too tight for proper routing purposes. --- 92826625 >>92822279 (OP) They should just have added an extra couple octets and called it a day, instead of trying to get clever with SLAAC and everything. --- 92826646 >>92822566 >>92822579 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuDqNLgVHv8 [Embed] --- 92826981 >>92824426 We've been hearing it's the future for over a decade. --- 92827069 >>92826981 >>92824426 >32 bit 4,294,967,296 addresses >64 bit 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 addresses >128 bit 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 addresses bloated AF in my opinion. That's 42,535,295,865,117,307,932,921,825,928 IP addresses for every individual person on earth. --- 92827125 >>92827069 To be fair this kind of thinking was what got us into this place. People designing IPv4 were like "yeah this is surely enough" because back then you had a couple of PCs per department, now you have couple of PCs per person, so I can't blame them for playing it safe. Probably in 20 years almost every device will be connected to the internet. Your kettle, your fridge, your lock, your lights, your boiler, every person will create a trail of tens and hundreds of devices connected to the internet. --- 92827163 future is probably some public key crypto based dynamic addressing system --- 92827202 >>92827069 Every nano bot is going to need its own ip --- 92827220 >>92827069 In reality it's 642 addresses, not 1282. --- 92827229 >>92827163 RINA I N A --- 92827435 >>92822279 (OP) It is the future, but as long as there is some "but muh legacy" is thrown around on /g/, then it will never happen. Serious answer: IPv4 resellers don't want to IPv6 to be a thing because the price on IPv4 right now is super fucking high and obviously they just want loads of money. Try to buy a /24 or a /22 In addition, MOST services do not support IPv6, so try to use some of your favourite sites and services over IPv6 and you are going to have a very difficult time. --- 92827474 >>92822322 retard --- 92827593 >>92822566 https://archive.org/details/moon_map_earth --- 92828025 >>92822279 (OP) >revoke internet access to all third world countries >redistribute v4 addresses >problem solved forever If you're a favela dwelling macaco or an african kid running from lions, internet access should be the least of your worries. --- 92828719 >>92826981 It's not the future, it's the present. --- 92828798 >>92828025 Yes, deprive access to them. Do not force people to implement in your software a 20 year old tech that's already operational in every major OS, and that is an actual solution to the very same woes you claim. Drink a cup of sewer water so you remember the taste of home. --- 92829043 >>92828798 >already operational in every OS Not in AmigaOS, ArcaOS or RISC OS![1] [1] https://eylenburg.github.io/os_comparison.htm --- 92829067 >>92822279 (OP) both. welcome to hell. --- 92829128 >>92825877 I'm also european (Italy), here it's a mix of natted IPv4 and IPv6 blocks for fibre lines while all 4G and 5G carriers use natted IPv4. Fibre, has static IPv4, usually 3 €/mo, reachable dynamic IPv4 is usually 2 €/mo. Mobile carriers do not have add-on services. You live in France? --- 92829164 >>92822279 (OP) >wants someday --- 92829626 >>92822322 Reminds me of this shit --- 92829668 >>92825383 Everyone will use DNS, at last. --- 92829753 >>92827202 Every button on this Indian man's shirt needs a global unicast IP --- 92829810 >>92827125 there is a day when everyone fed up with tech .. people will less using device connect to the internet.. back to the old days.. --- 92830482 >>92822322 Thailand is the supreme God of the universe according to the supreme king of Thailand. Didn't you know? > Bogdanoff's fake death > begin new plot to take over the planet > they do this through IPv6 and Thailand's ancient monarchy > Thailand becomes a superpower in 2030 --- 92830498 >>92822279 (OP) Deadish because we're not all on the same server. --- 92830512 >>92824750 >I uhh, would also rather type a IPv4 address than even a shortform IPv6 nah IPv6 is fine, you'd get used to it. --- 92830573 >>92827593 kek --- 92830593 >>92825383 The fuck were they thinking when they made this? IPv4 is just an array of bytes [127,255,255,255]. It's easy to implement a coms protocol with it and takes up little space. I don't even know where to begin with IPv6. How many fucking tools do I need to convert this shit into bytes manually? --- 92830595 >>92827163 I don't think we'll have IPs full stop in the future if the internet wants to remain competitive. --- 92830730 >>92830593 It's 16 bytes.