----- --- 26527023 >RX8 platform with better suspension then all other Miatas >Higher reving Engine then other models >The perfect 6 speed gearbox >Is extremely comfortable compared to other miatas Why do people not like this car as much as the other Miatas again? --- 26527093 >>26527023 (OP) :D --- 26527137 >>26527023 (OP) >Why do people not like this car as much as the other Miatas again? everything except the interior quality was an upgrade on the NC. the NA and especially NB had the nicest interiors. It was literally out of this world nice, fucking jaguar tier. the nc was ford tier, and the ND is pretty much riced the fuck out with a low res tv screen that you cant play any porn on. ND seats are decent. --- 26527154 >>26527023 (OP) NC redline is 6800 only the ND1 was that low. All others were at least 7k, 7,500 for ND2. Also heaviest Miata by no small margin. You will never be a real Miata. --- 26527173 >specific power less than 100 hp/liter >but muh MPGEES --- 26527198 >>26527173 Specific power is the ultimate cope for trying to make fun of engines. It's little more than a curiosity for engine nerds unless it gets so out of whack as to compromise practicality. --- 26527202 >>26527154 >NC redline is 6800 Wrong >All others were at least 7k Wrong --- 26527218 >>26527023 (OP) I actually like the NC because it has an actual hard top roof that is convertible unlike the rest that is just canvas or whatever soft material they use. I have no idea why the ND isn't completely foldable or if someone Made a mod to make it so --- 26527225 >>26527137 >nc was ford tier So was the na/nb, goober. 90% of an na/nb is ford. --- 26527258 My strongest memory of the NC miata is Best Motoring saying the Solstice was a better car. --- 26527262 >>26527225 >90% of an na/nb is ford. wrong lamoo, find one part from a na/nb that's on a ford besides maybe the ignition lock cylinder lamo --- 26527268 >>26527198 >Specific power is the ultimate cope for trying to make fun of engines. It's little more than a curiosity for engine nerds unless it gets so out of whack as to compromise practicality. --- 26527269 >>26527023 (OP) Do the NC and RX-8 use the same chassis? I thought the RX-8 was longer, or does the convertible roof take up the space that is the back seats in an RX-8? --- 26527272 >>26527258 Solstice was a bad ass car but in the end it was a GM but not one of their trucks or a Vette so it was shit. --- 26527273 >>26527268 seethe --- 26527283 >>26527258 Buddy has a saturn sky, shit is fucking amazing. --- 26527284 >>26527283 >fucking amazing. >2.0 non turbo >heavier than a Miata Yea I bet --- 26527285 >>26527023 (OP) >>26527093 I love the smiley but nothing will beat the NA --- 26527287 >>26527023 (OP) Lol cope is real --- 26527291 >>26527023 (OP) I want a na so bad but I need More than 2 seats --- 26527293 >>26527262 Door handles, the engine, air bag modules, rear brake calipers, the suspension, the hubs and bearings...I know how these old Mazdas are, bro. --- 26527298 >>26527273 rent free --- 26527315 >>26527137 I had a 96M (with the nardi wood shift knob and wood handbrake) that I swapped a NB Nardi steering wheel (like your picrel but leather wrapped instead of wood). It looked nice but was nowhere near "Jaguar tier" except for those inner door handles it shares with that aston martin. It's a Miata, it rattles like it's actively falling apart. They all do. To be fair though I've never been in an NC --- 26527338 >>26527298 I don't know who that is. Point stands that specific power is scraping the bottom of the barrel. It literally doesn't make any difference. --- 26527347 >>26527137 >na and nb had "jaguar tier" interior least delusion miata faggot --- 26527355 >>26527338 >specific power is scraping the bottom of the barrel. It literally doesn't make any difference. --- 26527368 >>26527355 Dubs confirms I'll just have to say it a third time. Spam more stale memes. --- 26527387 >>26527338 >It literally doesn't make any difference. you are shit ass retarded and know nothing about engines. --- 26527400 >>26527298 Ah yes that car. How is the 2023 model? Oh wait lol! Guess there is at least the MR2 thou- oops also dead! Not a single challenger left to the one and only true roadster --- 26527413 >>26527387 As I stated originally, unless it's far enough out of whack to impact practicality then it doesn't make any difference except for nerd cred. --- 26527960 >>26527154 My 1.8L NC III has a 7k5 redline and I'm fairly confident my best friend's NC 1 is the same. --- 26528350 >>26527023 (OP) heavy and dorky looking engine bay is a mess compared to the ND2 --- 26528380 https://youtu.be/dhfwYgBvd_E [Embed] --- 26528785 >>26528350 >engine bay is a mess compared to the ND2 Retard wrenchlet faggot --- 26528792 >>26528785 shut the fuck up alex --- 26528798 >>26528792 Why? --- 26528799 >>26527225 Most wrong post I'll read today, holy shit --- 26528801 YWNBASC --- 26528802 >>26527293 like what fords? the mk1 bearings are only listed for mazda's and two kia's, tie rods mx5 only, rear calipers mazda etc, guess it could be us thing as my cross ref list only really covers UK/EU/JDM markets, where as my mk3 is full of fordmoco stamps, cant say ive seen any on my eunos. --- 26528844 >>26527023 (OP) worst miata all the owners cope so damn hard about muh rx7 chassis --- 26528853 >>26528844 wrenchlet --- 26528975 >>26528844 Can't find a good clean NB/NA, Can't afford an ND. Forced to cope with the ugly bastard child MX-5 that will be forgotten while all the other become clasics and appreciate in value. --- 26529011 >>26527023 (OP) goofy face --- 26529017 >>26528801 meds --- 26529695 >>26527269 They do, they initially made it for the RX8 but obviously reusing it for the MX5 would help with the budget --- 26529705 >>26528975 NCs have spiked up in value, too, and continue to rise. You'll never be able to afford one at the rate things are going. --- 26529780 >>26527023 (OP) nc3 club with a bbr super225 kit is my dream miata --- 26529861 This is a fake miata thread. I'll bet most of you don't even have one. Real Miata owners love all Miatas. Even the worst Miata is still a great car and only lacking by small margins subject to preference. This meanness must stop! --- 26529964 >>26527400 Convertibles are for faggots especially miatas all kneel to 911 gt3 as the best handling car --- 26529974 >>26529964 wow! a car that costs 4x as much is better?! --- 26530030 >>26529861 I love my NB but it's turning into a money pit desu --- 26530145 >>26527137 >It was literally out of this world nice, fucking jaguar tier clearly didn't own an actual NB to experience the broken center console hinge and crooked globe box present in every NB --- 26530168 >>26527023 (OP) pigfat and no flippy lights. but the non meme reason is that that the car isn't as fun to drive as the other gens. it's supposed to be the most comfortable though. also, the 6 speed isn't great, just ok. mine is pretty notchy doesn't shift as nice as some of the other gearboxes. the NC 5 speed is supposed to be better. --- 26530802 >>26529964 the next car remotely close to the mx5 is the 718 and here in australia its at least twice as expensive as the highest trim miata. --- 26530830 >>26529861 this is true all miatas are valid --- 26530841 >>26527023 (OP) How dare you attempt to divide us further when in these trying times we must band together. this >>26529861 --- 26530855 >>26530841 Not a real convertible --- 26530875 >>26530841 the ND, especially the RF is so sexy it's unreal. I get random normies who think it's some 100k+ super car and somehow miss the badge --- 26530954 >>26527023 (OP) Nothing wron with NC's. t. NA owner --- 26531070 >>26529964 If I could buy a 911 GT3 for 5500 bucks, insure it for 200€/year and 80€/year of road tax I would have certainly done so anon, but in the real world I'm going to build an NA miata as my second car (first one being a NC III 25th anniversary miat) and I will have fun with it for under 15k total after all the stuff I want to do to it. --- 26531073 >>26530168 I have a 5 speed 2014 one with the 1.8 and it's very fun desu. Less soulful than my NA but it's my daily driver so I don't mind it, very comfy with all options, cruise control etc etc. --- 26531078 >>26527137 >fucking jaguar tier I have an '01 XKR and owned a '93 S-Special NA alongside it up until very recently. So I have the experience to tell you that is absolutely fucking not the case. The styling makes it a nice place to be but it's the same 90s plastic you get in any other Japanese car of the era and not much else. --- 26531238 >>26530841 Just wanna remind you guys the fake back window on the nd RF is the first instance of fake shit on a Miata and is a sign of things to come. --- 26531987 >>26530168 I have a 5 speed NC, its pretty good, the reverse shift lockout can be a pain sometimes though. --- 26532330 >>26531987 I hate niggers but miatas are cool --- 26532437 >>26530145 The entire interior is fuckawful and was designed by a retard >seats have no bolstering anywhere, have fun sliding around when using the car for what it was made to do >useless cupholders with doors that fly open on acceleration >window switches in the center console why >gas cap and trunk releases in the center console why >retarded glovebox >retarded center console storage area >door handles intrude on knee space >steering wheel too large and flexy >fucking airvents never stay where you aimed them >floormats not held on by anything >top latches are trash >wind deflector is trash there are fixes for all of that obviously, mostly involving the word "delete," but even for its era it's a cheap shitty interior --- 26532457 >>26529964 convertibleGODS aren't afraid of their norwood III hairline being exposed to the world --- 26532515 >>26531238 Thats the least of your worries, the next miata will be a fat hybrid. Can't wait for all the "but its fast now guys" comments. It will truly be over --- 26532566 >>26532437 >seats have no bolstering anywhere, have fun sliding around when using the car for what it was made to do Leather seat problems, my cloth seats hold me fine. >useless cupholders with doors that fly open on acceleration NB2 things? Imagine having cupholders in your sports car. >window switches in the center console why Saves weight in the doors (read: weight further from the center of gravity) and reduces complexity and cost as you now only need one switch. >gas cap and trunk releases in the center console why So you can lock them, because it has a soft top. >retarded center console storage area Other than the door opening towards the passenger side, mine holds things just fine. >door handles intrude on knee space Sounds like a flat door card with fabric pulls is for you. I've yet to experience this issue. >steering wheel too large and flexy Never had any issues like this with the factory NB1 Nardi wheel, and even then smaller aftermarket steering wheels are easy and common. >fucking airvents never stay where you aimed them Someone put small pieces of thin fabric lined tape in mine, they hold just fine now. >floormats not held on by anything Extra weight, toss them. >top latches are trash Rebuild them, they're 20+ years old, expecting old assemblies with lots of little moving parts that gets used a lot to be perfect is retarded. >wind deflector is trash Mine is just fine. >there are fixes for all of that obviously, mostly involving the word "delete," but even for its era it's a cheap shitty interior It does the job, and not all that bad considering how cheap these things were new. If you want a luxury interior you're welcome to go buy a kraut barge of a roadster for twice the money. --- 26532615 >>26527284 >>26527283 buy the fucking turbo then --- 26532746 >>26532515 wait you mean a miata will beat a minivan? hol um imma go gank a SICK min and dorifto it in to the used car lot so I can pick up a hybrid miata --- 26532754 >>26531238 NC has fake gauge iirc >>26532515 will probably be a mild hybrid system rather than a true hybrid, strictly for compliance with the benefit of low end torque. only weighs around 25kg --- 26532815 >>26532754 The oil pressure is apparently based on calculations done by the ECU instead of actual oil pressure >>26528801 It's a Roadster :^) --- 26533092 >>26532566 >my cloth seats hold me fine confirmed for driving like a grandma >Imagine having cupholders in your sports car as I said, solved by delete, reading is FUNdamental >Saves weight in the doors lolwut, I'm sure that all of 5 grams saved per door makes a big difference, and running the wire from the regulator to the center console increases complexity to a small degree >mine holds things just fine what the fuck does it hold, your lipstick? it's too small for anything of note >Sounds like a flat door card with fabric pulls is for you as I said... >Never had any issues like this confirmed for manlet >even then smaller aftermarket steering wheels are easy as I said... >Someone put small pieces of thin fabric lined tape in mine as I said... >toss them as I said... >Rebuild them no shit, but the design is still garbage because when the tabs that hold the latches on start failing even a little, the top can come off at highway speeds. also, the little bars at the end might not hook onto the latch on the windshield frame properly, especially if your top has been down for a while and has tightened up a bit. thankfully they fixed the design with the NC >Mine is just fine wrong >not all that bad considering how cheap these things were new wrong, the stock interiors are worse than a fucking Elantra of that era, and your argument boils down to >no they don't, because you can fix them which wouldn't be necessary if the interiors weren't shit to begin with --- 26533329 >>26533092 >confirmed for driving like a grandma Nah, I beat the shit out of it. >as I said, solved by delete, reading is FUNdamental How are you going to delete the nonexistent cupholders? >lolwut, I'm sure that all of 5 grams saved per door makes a big difference, and increases complexity to a small degree Every ounce adds up, if they were like you while designing each part the car would weigh substantially more. It's less wiring, given the center switch only needs to run one wire to each door, rather than having a wire running all the way from the driver door to the passenger door, then wiring from the passenger switch to the regulator as well. >what the fuck does it hold, your lipstick? it's too small for anything of note I keep Bluetooth OBD2 reader in it and not much else, because again, soft top. >as I said.. Not really a delete? You're still adding something in its place that's not just a block off plate. It's also not necessary being something you dislike due to your gargantuan proportions. >confirmed for manlet Nope, just not a fat fuck. >as I said... Not liking the steering wheel is a matter of taste, not a "broken thing to fix" >as I said... The vents are still there, not a delete. >as I said... Not really a delete if it never came with floor mats in the first place, which not all did. >no shit, but the design is still garbage because when the tabs that hold the latches on start failing even a little You'd have to neglect them super hard, which delves into the realm "your fault", not the car's. >wrong Prove it, it blocks wind better than not having one. "Windblocker", not "wind eliminator". >wrong, the stock interiors are worse than a fucking Elantra of that era Wrong >no they don't, because you can fix them >which wouldn't be necessary if the interiors weren't shit to begin with You're expecting perfection out of worn out 20+ year old cheap plastic in an interior built for small Japanese men (not 400 pound Ameriburgers) which is unreasonable. --- 26533593 I can’t believe you guys are seriously arguing about what Miata is the worst. That’s like trying to find out who’s the most retarded kid on the short bus. --- 26533655 >>26527154 >Also heaviest Miata by no small margin. The NB Miata was 155.7 inches long, with later examples scaling at around 2375 pounds. A 2006 NC MX-5? Just 157.3 inches long and 2425 pounds. >NC redline is 6800 Fuel cut on NC2/3 is 7700rpm. You are a dumb retard. Hope you get hit and killed by a boomer driving a crossover. --- 26533733 >>26533593 welcome to /o/, it's a shadow of it's former self. Leave while you still can. --- 26533867 >>26533593 I was the most retarded on the short bus. Now the full-sized bus had some real characters, like the guy who used to sit in the seat above the rear wheel well not because nobody else wanted to sit in that cramped space (other than me) but because he found it to be the best bouncy location for dry humping the seat. I couldn't even sit across from him on the other wheel whell when he was on the long bus >.< --- 26533913 >>26533593 Lol I know right? These fags and they're miatas. Ya boy just copped that new Sienna. It's so sick. --- 26534032 >>26533913 I saw some yota minivan in the parking lot the other day only because it had this big VTTI decal on the rear quarter, or whatever it is that they called the valve timing stuff in that era >wtf it's a minivan >why does a minivan have ricer decals on it >what minivan driver even knows about variable valve shit It was "awd" so I guess the more powerful engine was part of the selling point. Bitch parked the ass end so far out I might have tripped over it if not for the decales --- 26534150 >>26531238 yeah it's Riced From The Factory at least it doesn't have McDonald's struts! *wink* --- 26534916 >>26532754 >No, no, it's fine, this plate of noodles was only mildly shat in. You'll love it. --- 26535997 >>26533593 >frogposter >itoddler I hope you're the star of the next Russian beheading video --- 26535999 >>26529861 This --- 26536012 >>26533329 > I beat the shit out of it then you should be sliding around, cloth or leather. But you don't because you think taking a corner at 10mph is hardcore shit >How are you going to delete the nonexistent cupholders by taking the center console out, retard >having a wire running all the way from the driver door to the passenger door lolwut >just not a fat fuck being fat has no bearing on hitting the steering wheel with your knees, lil guy >20+ year old was shit new >cheap plastic exactly, it's a cheap shitty plastic interior, thank you for your concession --- 26536027 >>26529861 this so much --- 26536052 >>26536012 > I beat the shit out of it >then you should be sliding around, cloth or leather. But you don't because you think taking a corner at 10mph is hardcore shit Maybe you're sitting in it wrong or something? I'm certainly taking them much faster than 10. Don't know what to tell you here. >How are you going to delete the nonexistent cupholders >by taking the center console out, retard You may want to reread that sentence. There aren't cupholders, how does removing the center console change that? >having a wire running all the way from the driver door to the passenger door >lolwut Are you unfamiliar with power window circuits? How do you propose you get the signal to roll down the passenger side window from a master window switch in the driver door with switches for both windows, without running a wire from it to the passenger door? Here's a schematic for a 2 door car that does have switches in the doors. >just not a fat fuck >being fat has no bearing on hitting the steering wheel with your knees, lil guy Well, I don't hit my knees, and I'm not a landwhale, you may want to look in the mirror. >20+ year old >was shit new >cheap plastic >exactly, it's a cheap shitty plastic interior, thank you for your concession I said that it was cheap and recommended a significantly more expensive luxury car if you wanted a nice interior in my first post, if you were literate. --- 26536066 >>26527023 (OP) Cuz muh popup headlights and can't fit 4x100 wheel on 'em. They're far more rigid and structurally sound . As a track car, they're better than the NA/NB if you're about weight. They dont require as much roll bar and with the car stripped to the essentials, it's lighter. --- 26536084 >>26533593 Hey we all had those discussions as kids and had fun unless you had an actual Downey on which case we all agreed to give him a pass because it wasn't his fault being retarded --- 26536163 >>26536052 >certainly taking them much faster than 10 wrong >There aren't cupholders what do you think pic related are >roll down the passenger side window reach across the car, armlet >b-but passenger so use it as an excuse to grope her tits, fag >don't hit my knees because your legs are short, because you are short >if you wanted a nice interior so what you're saying now is that the interior is not nice (which you didn't say in your first response, you just said it's cheap), which is exactly my point --- 26536191 >>26536027 /mg/ been gone for a while now --- 26536201 >>26536163 >certainly taking them much faster than 10 >wrong Come ride with me then >There aren't cupholders >what do you think pic related are I don't have an NB2. The NB1 center console is different. >roll down the passenger side window >reach across the car, armlet Not an argument when nobody makes cars with power windows and no passenger side switch on the driver door. You're welcome to bitch about that to Mazda, even the FD RX-7 has that. >don't hit my knees >because your legs are short, because you are short [citation needed], have you never looked at a fat person's legs? They grow to a larger diameter too, putting the top of your thigh closer to the steering wheel. >if you wanted a nice interior >so what you're saying now is that the interior is not nice (which you didn't say in your first response, you just said it's cheap), which is exactly my point I said it does the job the first time, you're putting words in my mouth and arguing against that. --- 26536210 >>26536201 (FD LHD door panel) --- 26536236 >>26536201 >Come ride with me then nah I'd rather race you with mine >The NB1 center console is different a lot better, too. those cupholders fucking suck >have you never looked at a fat person's legs I don't look at fat people >They grow to a larger diameter too also a thing when you don't skip leg day >I said it does the job it doing the job and being shitty are not mutually exclusive. I can sit in the car and operate it, sure, but that's a low bar --- 26536318 >>26535997 Keep crying bitch. I’ll keep frogposting on an iPhone and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it. --- 26536363 >>26536210 I'm an old spirit guy, that looks like shit, I'd rather wrap it with fake leather or do a total make over using fiber glass reshaping it to the desired utilities and then wrap it with fake leather like this guy did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hiZ_1IzvkI [Embed] --- 26536374 Everyone quit fighting and start enjoying my green boi --- 26536410 >>26536374 Based green NB --- 26536435 >>26536374 Green over tan is my favorite combo and I hate that you can only get black interiors now. --- 26536622 >>26536374 >>26536410 Emerald Mica NB is a really, really beautiful car. I ended up getting an NC but I almost bought an Emerald Mica NB. Enjoy miata bros. --- 26537434 This seems like a good thread for this question: I live in Japan and I'm thinking of buying an NA Roadster out here, I am seeing them with between 40-60k miles on them for around 10-13k. I don't know anything really about the editions of the NA but I kinda like the tan interior with the wood? Some of the japanese models seem to also have metal gauge clusters and ac panels which seems nice. Any advice on what I should get/ what to expect when I get one? I drive a WRX now but I'm gonna sell it. --- 26539331 >>26537434 This is a good overview of all generations, including NA. There are many special editions (M Edition) which were one year only models with special paint and some other extra features like wooden Nardi shift knobs, steering wheels. The main split is the 1994-1997 MY cars vs the 1990-1993 MY cars due to the engine change from 1.6L to 1.8L. --- 26539336 >>26537434 >>26539331 Fuck, forgot the link. https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a35292695/mazda-mx-5-miata-buyers-guide-every-generation/ --- 26539470 >>26527023 (OP) >RX8 platform TIL wtf I want an NC now. --- 26541054 miatabros.... what dash cam do you use? front and rear or front only? --- 26541144 >>26527137 >fucking jaguar tier --- 26541785 If you're still driving an NA or NB Miata, I hate to break it to you, but you're living in the past. The NC is where it's at. Sure, those earlier models may have had some charm and "character," but let's face it, they're outdated and underpowered. The NC, on the other hand, has a sleek and modern design, a more powerful engine, and advanced suspension technology that makes it a dream to drive. And don't even get me started on the luxurious interior. So if you want to step up your Miata game, ditch the old and embrace the new. The NC is the way to go. --- 26541985 >>26541785 however NB is a cute --- 26542897 >>26541054 I use... living in a country that has a driving test. --- 26542906 >>26541785 If you honestly hold this opinion, the least you could do is actually write something instead of making a retarded AI do it for you. --- 26543335 >>26542897 Yeah because I'm sure that helps with your insurance claims