----- --- 14899899 Retard here. Why is Trotsky so hated my marxist-leninists? --- 14899912 >>14899899 (OP) He was an ugly goat faced little jew with an inhumane ideology, I’m glad he died an excruciatingly painful death. --- 14899916 >>14899912 Ice pick to the brain doesn't actually sound very painful. --- 14900309 >>14899899 (OP) Because Daddy Stalin said so. --- 14900369 >>14899912 >with an inhumane ideology True, but that's rich coming from a fucking Nazi lmao --- 14900593 >>14899916 It was a pickaxe and he lingered for a while >>14900369 I’m not a Nazi I’m a fascist --- 14900631 >>14899899 (OP) --- 14900690 >>14899899 (OP) Two main reasons: 1. Stalin is arguably the single most important historical leader (not theorist) for Marxist-Leninists, and Trotsky was his main political adversary. 2. Trotskyists post-Trotsky are by and large hostile to all socialist countries; Trotsky thought the USSR was a "degenerated worker's state," i.e. not perfect but still better than capitalist society. On the other hand, most modern Trotskyists believe the USSR stopped being socialist as soon as Stalin took over, and therefore also that all nominally Marxist states are actually frauds masquerading as socialist countries. This idea didn't come from Trotsky himself, but it gets projected onto him by Marxist-Leninists. --- 14900762 Trotsky was a real communist and wanted perpetual revolution and a weak government, this is too dangerous an ideology so he was offed --- 14900886 >>14899899 (OP) depends on who you ask, theres different takes on him by tons of them when it comes to commie figures who were influencial just assume there is not and has not been any real conscensus on em --- 14900945 >>14899899 (OP) Cult around daddy Stalin. --- 14900975 >>14899899 (OP) By Stalinists, not by marxist-leninists. --- 14901145 >>14900975 "Marxist-Leninists" is the term Stalinists use for themselves. Trotskyists call themselves Marxists and Leninists, but not Marxist-Leninists. --- 14901345 >>14899916 He got to watch his genetic lineage extinguished before he passed. --- 14901394 >>14899899 (OP) >ok at taking Tsarist officer's families hostage and forcing them to fight for you in exchange for the lives of the families, win the civil war this way >lose out on the post-Lenin power struggle because you're universally hated by everybody >get to go into exile instead of getting shot in an NKVD basement >spend entire time in exile being a whiny bitch, complaining about how policies he had supported were being implemented by Stalin but not as good as he would have implemented them It's worth remembering that Khruschev never tried even a little bit to rehabilitate Trotsky despite his massive effort of de-Stalinization, so contrary to popular belief it's not just Stalinists who want nothing to do with Trotsky --- 14901399 >>14901357 No, that drawing was actually a storyboard for Death Wish 6. --- 14902414 >>14899899 (OP) Jews --- 14902689 >>14900631 Why did you remove the star of david pendant --- 14902699 >>14899899 (OP) Marxist leninists love the USSR Trotsky hated the USSR (For the most part) because "It wasn't real communism" Therefore MLs hate Trotsky, considering him a traitor --- 14902725 >>14899899 (OP) He was a valuable asset for the construction and foundation of the USSR, but he betrayed the Soviet government for the sake of his own ego --- 14902805 >>14899899 (OP) As I understand it, Maoism was basically sanitized Trockyism. He hated Stalin for not being communist *enough*. --- 14902986 >>14899912 >an inhumane ideology So why do *other* communists hate him? --- 14903115 >>14900975 Weil-chan spat in his face in her apartment --- 14903365 >>14899899 (OP) Every dead kike is a blessing. --- 14903385 >>14900975 To be more precise than the first poster, "Marxism-Leninism" is the official name of Stalin's ideology as coined by himself. Opponents of Stalin reject the term. --- 14903431 >>14899899 (OP) Trotsky did nothing wrong albeit --- 14903442 Marxist-Leninists pretty much only hate him cause he hated Stalin. The differences between Marxism-Leninism and Trotskyism is pretty much just socialism in one country vs internationalism --- 14904764 >>14903442 Also LGBT and lack of conservatism. Trotsky is literal globohomo.