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--- 70639299
I just want abs without starving myself to death
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>>70639299 (OP)
abs are overrated
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Why don't you want to starve yourself? It's cheap. I'm currently starving myeslf and my abs have never been better
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>>70639299 (OP)
everyone makes a choice. You either choose food, or abs. Never both. Make the choice and deal with it. Most ripped dudes are doing it with a help drugs though.
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>>70639299 (OP)
I'd like abs at least once in my life. I'm 23 now. 

What is the most efficient way to achieve this? Workout and diet
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>>70639385
What workouts do you do
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>>70639439
None, that's why I ask. 

I want to get fit but never had anyone to help me into it.
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>>70639299 (OP)
Watch Natural Hypertrophy's video on an training. The guy claims 18% bodyfat with a visible, unflexed six pack.

In short, weighted twisting crunches + weighted leg raises.
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>>70641003
*ab training
Stupid auto correct.
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>>70639299 (OP)
start training them, stupid frog. And no. No meme exercises. Start doing actual ab progressions like: Toes to bar, Dragon Flags, Ab rollouts etc. Just doing leg lifts won't get you neither strong nor aesthetic abs. 
Do. The. Work
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>>70639299 (OP)
>to death
Good news. You don't actually have to starve to death to get abs. Most people with abs are still alive!
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Ride a bike for couple hours every day and after you shred all the fat try building a muscle. If you do this you can eat plenty of healthy food and not feel hungry while loosing weight
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>>70639299 (OP)
You mean semi visible abs or like 8% bf abs?
Because you can achieve the former by just not being fat and not being dyel
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>>70639299 (OP)
So grow your ads instead of losing weight.
You can have a decently high bf% and 6 pack abs if your ab muscles are huge. They will appear through the fat.
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>>70639299 (OP)
dehydrate yourself to death instead
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>>70641654
Big if true