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https://deadline.com/2023/04/biggest-box-office-bombs-2022-lowest-grossing-movies-1235325138/
What went wrong?
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>>136654305 (OP)
No bruddah we don't want to see the gae.
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>>136654305 (OP)
Kids didn’t want to watch them
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Kids are wrong
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>>136654305 (OP)
Poor hecking billion dollar company. This is a national tragedy
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>>136654305 (OP)
Too much woke shit.
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>>136654305 (OP)
>uninspired whatever
>scifi with no aliens or having anything to do with the cartoon
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>>136654305 (OP)
They didn't want to market the better Pixar movie and for some fucking reason listen to one of the writers needing to put in a gay negro for an audience that didn't show up
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>>136654305 (OP)
>What went wrong?
Both films went south for different reasons...
>Lightyear
The film was advertised as being "the film that Andy saw when he was a kid and made him want to get a Buzz Lightyear action figure" but wasn't written in a way that mimicked a 90's sci-fi flick, it came off as more of a kid-friendly Interstellar.

Oh, and when no one went to see it the the directors blamed moviegoers for "not getting it" rather than blaming himself or the writers. That's a REALLY good way to torpedo any sort of
goodwill the audience may have left.
>Strange World
Poor advertising and Disney's poor handing of the adventure genre in general did it in. The character designs and writing also didn't do it any favors, by the time of Strange World's release Disney and Pixar both crapped out film featuring generational rifts as their main source of conflict and the film's environmental message was handled better by other films before it.

And, like Lightyear, when no one went to see director and writers blamed audiences (and a dash of both racism and homophobia) rather than their own shoddy work.
>>136654497
>scifi with no aliens or having anything to do with the cartoon
>or having anything to do with the cartoon
To be fair Lightyear's lack of any sort of connection to Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was kind of a given. Pixar hating the cartoon due to it being Disney-directed-and-produced is a well-known fact.
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>>136654305 (OP)
Did these come out still during le Rona times or did their weird lack of consistent marketing do em in like this?
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>>136654621
Minions Rise of Gru came out around d the same time and made almost a billion, the rona was no longer a bit issue
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>>136654305 (OP)
>looks ugly
>looks boring
And clearly word of mouth wasn't good enough to save them. Lightyear in particular seems ill-conceived. Pixar is way up their own ass but I don't believe they actually know what they did wrong on this one. People would show up to a solo Buzz film that A) makes him recognizably Buzz beyond looks (voice, personality) and B) actually looks fun. It looked bland even without comparing it to the animated series. I wish it had actually lived up to the conceit of being a 90's kid-friendly action flick. The movie they shat out was like a modern soulless remake of a 90's kid-friendly action flick.
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>>136654305 (OP)
Victoria Alonso will ever pay for it?
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>>136654653
Ah, cool.
Does this mean we got past the "everyone hates Minions" phase or was that just like a Twitter thing? I mean hell it apparently was so good my grandparents watched it on Peacock or whatever for some reason so I guess it must've been good.
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>>136654305 (OP)
It's over
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>>136654305 (OP)
Serious question: Why are these movies so expensive? They cost $129 million each to make? Why?
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>>136654305 (OP)
Not woke enough like Bossgirl Peach
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>>136657116
Americans charge a lot for the same thing Asian will do better and cheaper
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>>136657116
135-180 million (Strange World) and 200 million (Lightyear), actually. Pixar spends excessive amounts of money developing new tech and can (supposedly) afford to spend money like that because they're a Disney subsidiary. Sad part is that more appealing animated features have been (and still are!) made for a fraction of the budget. We're starting to see diminishing returns on CG visuals now.
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>>136657160
Time for cheap AI generated movies
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>>136657193
Honestly, AI-generated movies will lower the skill floor so much that I'm sure mockbuster studios like The Asylum are absolutely thrilled. Ironically the end product might actually end up looking better than shitty human-animated mockbusters.
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>>136657160
>We're starting to see diminishing returns on CG visuals now.
We've been seeing that for over a decade now. Disney/Pixar needs to lean into appealing stylization more, they can only coast on brand recognition for so long

>>136657193
>>136657304
Good morning sirs.
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>>136654305 (OP)
I'd say Lightyear was given TOO much creative control to the team working on it and Strange World's Team had too little control in working on it.
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>>136654305 (OP)
Ugly designs, the women in these movies are ugly, awful stories, gay agenda that drives away families, a disaster and they won't change, they will keep on doing it
Now the Disney princess are drag queens
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>>136654343
>Kids didn’t want to watch them
Kids prefer to watcjh anime
Disney doesn't understand what today's kids likes and these weirdos from Disney live in a homosexual bubble and everyone there has the same ideology and they think that the world will love THE MESSAGE
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>>136654305 (OP)
Are these the first ones made without Lasseter’s involvement?
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>>136657116
It also doesn’t help that Hollywood is slave to the mentality of “we need to pay for big name actors to ensure success!” Clearly, nobody gave a shit that they splurged for Jake Gyllenhal, Dennis Quaid, and Lucy Liu. That’s probably $20 million they could’ve saved by hiring VOICE actors better suited for the roles.
Sadly, that’s a mindset that will never be turned around. Too many MBA’s programmed to run routines than think for themselves.
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Disney doesn't know how to make great movies anymore, they play it too safe so it always end up mid
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>>136654602
Very well said
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>>136654305 (OP)
The world is healing
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>>136654305 (OP)
Not enough, we can go bigger
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>>136654305 (OP)
Strange World was a fucking trainwreck in itself as a movie, nobody likes that shit except some contrarians. Lightyear at least has some interesting ideas and concepts here and there.
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That's like 3 cents to disney
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>>136654305 (OP)
While Elemental and Wish probably won't be that bad box office wise, it's probably going to be another bad year.
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>>136658144
Get woke
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>>136654719
She got fired. That's enough for me.
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>>136654872
Illumination hate overall has just gone down since they'll never change, so anyone who passionately hated them years ago just doesn't have the energy anymore to care about what they do.
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>>136654305 (OP)
>Boring
>Uninteresting
>Lame LGBTQ representation
>LGBT characters for marketing instead of being well written characters that happen to be lgbt

I can't support disney anymore. Their movies, shows, and everything is just bland, boring, and uninteresting. I'm so tired of "WE HAVE A LGBTQ" character as marketing hype. It's so tasteless and boring.
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>>136654305 (OP)
When they have the ugliest fucking art styles known to man no shit no one wanted to see them. Also why did disney go so hard into merch for lightyear when all it had was boring human characters and bland designs because it was hard sci fi tier shit?
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>>136662592
>Illumination hate overall has just gone down
I think a large part of this is because Illumination's target audience has aged up since despicable me and are adults themselves now. You could see it with the memes for Minions 2.
Which further confirms my theory that "cringe shit that only kids like" will eventually become "cool" approximately 7-10 years after it first reaches it's "so popular it's annoying" stage. I first noticed this phenomenon with Pokemon in 2013.
It'll be happening with Fortnite in the next 2 years
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>>136654602
>kid friendly Intersteller
Dude, it was LITERALLY the 90's Lost in Space movie, and that was the problem.
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>>136654305 (OP)
OH NONONONONONO.
Seriously, this is so funny it also becomes sad.
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>>136654305 (OP)
Feels good to see trash burn
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>>136654602
>>Strange World
>Poor advertising
Wrong, it was advertised you just ignored it and use adblock
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>>136665884
Let's hope those Star Wars Rey movies gut their savings out!
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>>136661494
Studio net?
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>>136654305 (OP)
Fucking awesome
But we need to keep those numbers even lower those are rookie numbers
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>>136665790
>mean you niggers worship UGLY shit like Steven Universe and Adventure Time. 
Im gonna get stoned for this but cal arts style has an appeal. Thats why i liked turning red partly because it looked cute. The bulbous nosed humunculi in strange world and lightyear were just unsettlingly to look at and were completely unfappable as characters
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>>136666365
>turning red looked cute
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>>136654602
>To be fair Lightyear's lack of any sort of connection to Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was kind of a given. Pixar hating the cartoon due to it being Disney-directed-and-produced is a well-known fact.
To be fair, that's their own problem for missing the actual audience that would show up for a Buzz-centric cartoon, all because of some stupid grudge on Pixar's behalf. Boo fucking hoo, all they did was prove they can't do it better.
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>>136666408
Yes it did, and im glad more upcoming disney/pixar movies will look like that rather then the toxic miscarriages that the characters in strange world or lightyear looked like
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>>136666166
Again im gonna be lynched for this but if they got a competent writer who gave rey an actual personality then it could still be a good movie
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>>136666637
Yeah and if the retconned the sequel trilogy into not existing and just made animated movies of the expanded novel universe it'd be much better received, but we can't keep waiting on a miracle
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>>136667107
Look man im trying to be somewhat optimistic can you blame a nigga for trying
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>>136661494
Go broke
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>>136661520
the damage has already been done and it was not only hers but a series of people in several places different from disney of the highest positions
for changes to be made the first to fall should be those at the top and this will never happen
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>>136654305 (OP)
Lightyear was really dull
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>had Strange World described to me as pulpy old school style sci-fi
>watch a trailer
>looks like boring ugly mediocrity
Very disappointed.
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>>136658144
Kids would prefer to watch cartoons more if more cartoons where actually appealing. Instead we get crap cartoons made for 20 something faggots rather than cool adventure stories that kids might want to watch.
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>>136657116
Don't forget promotion. They probably lost even more money marketing them.
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>>136654449
>>136658078
>>136658144
>>136661494
>>136667280
If the movies flopped because "muh people hate woke" why is the Mario movie breaking records?
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>>136654305 (OP)
These losses cannot be understated, because Disney's margins on the MCU movies have been declining as well. These two films essentially wiped them out.
One might say Avatar 2 single-handedly saved Disney's 2022, but the other way to look at it is that they're just starting to make a tiny dent on the bill for Fox. And they don't have Avatar 3 for 2023.
This year has the potential to be way, way worse for Disney. Same goes for WBD. Both of them have spent way too much on reshoots.
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>>136662602
They stopped making beautiful women they think representation is about making people ugly and that will attract audiences, who put these people in charge?
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>>136667722
Because is not woke?
The princess is a female character that does not exist in Disney, she is strong, has her moment to shine, and at the end of the movie the Mario brothers save the worlds.
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>>136654305 (OP)
https://youtu.be/PzIp7wLPjKA [Embed]

You watch this fucking scene and tell me if this looks like shit a kid would be interested in. Even for Disney, the message and "metaphor" of the board game is so fucking ham-fisted, it feels like first draft placeholder garbage.
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>>136667411
According to the image you posted, it looks like the person who said that/made that decision is Karey Burke, not Victoria Alonso.
But I'm totally out of the loop with Disney.
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>>136668072
Right, NOW it isn't woke 
I'll just pretend the past two weeks of tortanicposting never happened
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>>136654305 (OP)
>What went wrong?
They took ideas with a lot of potential and made them as bland and unappealing as possible.
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>>136666314
After the cinemas get their cut.
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>>136654602
The thing is Buzz Lightyear is supposed to be Buzz Corry from Space Patrol with some Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers tossed in. So it just seems so odd to not go back to the well and actually make it feel like a high budget Space Patrol episode with more 90s sensibilities attached. It just seems obvious.
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>>136667722
Mario isn't woke.
Feminists are literally seething because it doesn't pass the Bechdel test
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>>136667722
there's no gay shit in the mario movie you dimwit.
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>>136668339
>>136668350
No wonder why you fags never clarify what you mean by "woke", it's so you can turn your opinion on a dime when the movie doesn't flop
Your brains are rotten
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>>136668389
You don't suppose there's more than two people on /co/, do you?
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>>136668389
>No wonder why you fags never clarify what you mean by "woke"
What? What the fuck are you on about? Woke is a term that refers to a fatalist materialist subschool of progressive and intersectionality ideologies.
Ideologies are the hardest things to define but woke is one of the easiest.
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>>136654305 (OP)

Russia has lost $762 billion from just Paddington 2 >>>/k/57843139
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>>136668893
???
Are you lost?
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>>136657116
>>136657160
The budgets are fucking ridiculous. Do they throw away their computers and have to buy new ones every time? DreamWorks can do it on 1/3 of the budget and it's funny how 250 million is a big success for them and a massive failure for Disney.
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>>136668389
lol I like this new cope.
>leftists: being Woke is...le good
>normal adults: go woke go broke heh hehe
>leftists : NOOOOOOOOOOO Y'ALL CANT SAY THAT
>normal adults:....
>leftists: AAAAHHHHH U DON EVEN KNOW WHAT WOKE IS !?!?!? U NO DEFINE IT!!!!!
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>>136669436
who are you quoting
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>>136669462
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Makes you wonder if Disney has declared war on the rest of the world since they are commited to fighting the "global southern MAGATARDS" (In their own words)
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>>136669462
see>>136669436
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>>136668430

Yup. Just point at Moviebob and Lily Orchard and that's all you need.
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>>136669436
>normal adults: go woke go broke
Absolutely no normal person says that autism.
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>>136654333
if it was a musical with songs by Lin Manuel Miranda with one of them breaking out into becoming a meme song, and the gay person was the protagonist instead of "blink and you'll miss it easy to edit for China" representation, it would make a billion dollars easily
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>>136658144
Everyone dies btw.
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>>136654305 (OP)
RIP bozos
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>>136669436
>he replaces “rightoid” with “normal adult”
lol, lmao
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I avoid looking at Strange World characters because they are so god damned ugly they make me feel uncomfortable.
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Because Disney chose to listen to hypocrites and morons like Lindsley Ellis, Moviebob, Andrew Dobson and Lily Orchard on how to make good media.
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>>136667722
No gay characters. no main characters are black. Yup it's a chud movie
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Remember that Writing Tips 101 video by Lily Orchard that was deleted because almost everyone mocked it?

Who's to say Disney didn't save it and took it BY HEART? It would explain a lot really.
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>>136654305 (OP)
>Strange Woke
>Kikeyear
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>>136670587
What was in the video? Did the wacko say representation is more important than story?
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>>136666637
It doesn't matter if the movies are good or not. The Rey well has already been poisoned, and nobody is going to see it. Especially not when the major source of Star Wars goodwill, Mandalorian, is losing its audience.
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>>136670902

Among other things.

It'a deleted now, but there have been many replies criticising it, even implying that the only "acceptable" media to make from that list would be a lite version of Coffeeshop AUs.
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>>136662631
vanquish looked amazing though
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>>136654305 (OP)
Elemental is also going to flop
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>>136669462
Me sorry.
I went through a sjw phase and said that.
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>>136668001
>This year has the potential to be way, way worse for Disney. 
The little Mermaid is going to make a billion
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>>136671598
lmao
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>>136671984
Just wait and see
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>>136671365
Vanquish had Bogey though
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>>136671598

Dunno about a billion, but make lots of money due to nostalgia pandering? Definitely.
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>>136654872
>goalpost: moved
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>>136667722
I think Mario tows the line between being woke and not woke enough. Also its a franchise that goes back 40 years people identify with and have a great nostalgia for. Also I think there really isn't a "for everyone" movie thats out right now so it fits the bill for a movie you take your 2.5 kids to so they shut up for at least 30 minutes before they get bored and take out their phones.
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>>136671598
Didn't the Disney pinocchio remake bomb last year?
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>>136672689
It went straight to streaming
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>>136654305 (OP)
Owned
I hope to cause them to lose more money in the future
>>136667722
Quit spreading misinfo to disrupt the significance of its success. They were forced by Nintendo to make a normal depiction of the Mario characters which is why it was popular
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>>136654305 (OP)
258 million out of a 100 billion, kek
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>>136671451
I doubt Wish will do well either. The songs are by the girl that wrote the hit "Issues" and the lyrics to the "I Want" song are generic as fuck. I guess some people also are irritated at the star of the movie Ariana DeBose.

It would be ironic as hell if Disney's two biggest blockbusters of the year with BIPOC leads bombed. It would kind of signal that DIE is dying (or rather was never wanted in the first place).
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>>136667722
I wish jannies would ban anyone talking about the Mario movie for just this month
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>>136654305 (OP)
Disney fags are crying in the corner. How will they beat DreamWorks and Illumination now?!
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>>136671365
It's also ridiculous to say that a series featuring huge, impractical walking tanks is too obsessed with realism.
The final fucking game had a mech design that was so impractical that it required a psychic boy to control it like a big metal puppet because it couldn't move under its own power.
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>>136673027
First they need to fire Jennifer Lee.
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>>136654872
Was the whole Gentleminions thing teens who'd grown up on the series or just some kind of ironic meme that got taken too far?
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>>136673366
Both
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>>136666637
>if they got a competent writer who gave rey an actual personality then it could still be a good movie
Don't care, not coming back unless somehow Palpatine has returned.
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>>136662631
I enjoy both of these aesthetics.
Didn't watch lightyear though lmao
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woke shit itself isn't the problem. disney is pretty much a symbol of cultural imperialism, hyper capitalism, monopolization, etc. 
it's crazy to want them to preach to you
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>>136673905
That's what woke shit is. Preachy. It's not just including a gay character; they announce that this is their first gay character for the upteenth time and want attention and praise for it. If inclusion means expecting accolades, they're not normalizing shit.
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>>136654305 (OP)
they were shit! utter and complete shit.
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>>136674288
That's not something you can normalize.
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>>136658144
It's always that one weeb retard who brings up anime
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>>136658144
Kids actually prefer to watch YouTube and their favorite e celebs and no anime has even sniffed the profit of highest performing western animation.
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>>136674568
>Sony out of nowhere

Go back to /v/. You fags and your Sony obsession are tiring
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>>136654305 (OP)
>What went wrong?

Half of Burguerland's right wing nuts, and most of the world will never accept the gays, either because of religion or some other bullshit.
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>>136674421

They don't want it normalized honestly. Because if it is, then they can kiss those esay critic accolades goodbye.
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>>136674905

That's only half the problem. The other half are those who aren't homophobes or racists but still hate these movies.
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>>136669339
DreamWorks used to spend huge "fuck you" money on their films prior to the Universal buyout, too. In fact that (along with a lengthy trail of cancelled, near-complete projects) was the primary reason DreamWorks had to sell to Universal. The fact that so few of their films broke even from 2012-2015 was the final nail in the coffin. Post-Universal buyout and now their films are largely outsourced with conservative budgets.
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>>136662631
Ideally you want someone with the brain of an engineer and the soul of an artist. But yeah this pick is disingenuous as fuck. I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make.
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>>136654602
And, like Lightyear, when no one went to see director and writers blamed audiences (and a dash of both racism and homophobia) rather than their own shoddy work.
Why do they do this. If a movie bombs but doesn’t whine about it nobody will give a shit by the time the next movie comes out. When they start whining about their flop they’re painting a giant target on their back for criticism.
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>>136675046
I don't think Disney cares about video essayists. They're really not that influential.
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>>136654602
>Pixar hating the cartoon due to it being Disney-directed-and-produced is a well-known fact.
Doesn't change thr fact it was a far more well executed take on the Buzz Lightyear brand. It had a wonderful 50's retrofutristic style that better highlighted Buzz's own design sensibilities. The action was genuinely creative and better encapsulates how Buzz acts in the video game shown in Toy Story 2. It also had a wonderful cast of original characters who were likable, memorable, and funny too. 

When you look at Lightyear and see that this character that was designed to be a planet hopping space ranger and see that he doesn't even set foot on more than one world it's jarring. Not to mention the complete lack of a unique or interesting art direction and side characters I can't even remember shows the film was outdone entirely. I get why people were pissed because even if they film makers didn't take and plot points from Star Command they shoukd have at least emulated its spirit.
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>>136680494
Lightyear felt like a movie originally written as a new IP but Disney didn't believe such a movie would be popular without an established ip for it. They retrofitted the original story to be Buzz's origin story. Buzz doesn't really fit with the story. As so many people have said, he never even goes to other planets. They kind of forced in a round peg into a square hole. It ended up more feeling like a direct-to-video movie that is to lead into a series.
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>>136674905
I will never accept gays because watching what happened when white people did it, doing so seems to be an objective net loss for society.
That's one thing I can thank whites for; you guys are the perfect example of what happens when you liberalize too much.
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>>136667722
I dunno, I haven't seen it. Besides, the sheeple will consume anything I guess.
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>>136654305 (OP)
The majority of USA citizens have emotionally and financially disowned Disney. Disney is China's problem
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>>136680936
>Disney disowns America
>China squeezes Disney out to make way for its domestic entertainment industry
The squeaky mouse gets the trap.
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>>136654305 (OP)
GOOD
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>>136680163

No, but they do care about easy oscar bait awards.
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>>136654305 (OP)
one's fucking pretentious on hammering down "nu energy" at the ending (ironically, the plant-like energy in the beginning that's literally colored "GREEN" turned out to be a virus that was killing the giant turtle) not to mention the unappealing designs on ALL it's characters, and marketing focusing in on how many checkmarks this film had.

and the other deliberately avoided the obvious blueprint AND Lasseter's footnotes on BUZZ LIGHTYEAR'S inspiration, and made it into a hard Sci-Fi with fucking garbage "Muh time-dilation" crap plotline pulled directly from the nolan films and pre-star wars era sci-fi films, instead of making it a campy and adventurous film that's roughly inspired by Flash Gordon like the way Lasseter wanted!
Basically, Buzz Lightyear's a space superhero in an astronaut suit.

>though the most funniest shit that came out of Lightyear was the director's audacity to keep looking for excuses as to why his film didn't make bank.
>no seriously, he went from "they're all homophobic!" to "my movie was too big brain for normies!"
>it provided more fun than his movie ever did
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>>136682692
this board is so shit now people dont even understand greentexting
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>>136654602
>Poor advertising

This is just false, Disney Advertised the movie a fuck ton. It had billboards, bus ads, and a ton of commercials playing all the time. Blaming the advertising for this shitty movie bombing is a huge cope
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>>136674494
And he's still right. I don't even watch anime.
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Pulpy sci-fi adventure is incongruent with faggotry because the genre was built upon masculine power fantasies. The protagonist doesn't have to be a mighty whitey, but it helps keep the discussion away from race.
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>>136670162
you're right
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>>136670264
>NOOOOOOOO EVERYTHING IS...LE POLITICAL
hahaha okay bro.
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>>136654305 (OP)
I saw these movie last year I can't remember much about them.
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mama mia...
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>>136667722
6/10 movie.
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>>136662631
>shitting on Mgs AND Vanquish's art direction
swing and a miss
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tax write offs
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>>136667722
>Bowser was a literally like Drumpf and Peach is Stormy Daniels!!
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>strange world is super ugly and was advertised to basically nobody 
>Lightyear was a gross miscarriage of its concept, the entire idea was it was the in-universe movie Buzz Lightyear was based on but it's just a 2020s era movie in terms of sensibility
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>>136654305 (OP)
It’s a demographics thing. What demographics are primarily interested in LGBT representation? White women and Twitter activists aka two groups who don’t watch movies. What demographic carries family friendly movies like Puss in Boots and Mario? Hispanics (their movie going trends show they’re huge nerds). A mostly catholic family-oriented group. The LGBT shit is box office office poison for kids films.
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>>136684380
>>136676212
>>136673628
You people are the cancer killing sci fi. Lemme guess you enjoyed shit like andor too
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>>136685517
>muh catholicism
A dying religion and thank goodness for that
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>>136684739
Strange World in my place had ads like any other movie. I don't think it was killed by a lack of advertising, rather Disney not knowing how to market this type of movie.
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>>136672913
You didn't do shit
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>>136685620
>I said the popular thing is bad! Do I fit in yet?!
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>>136685768
Popular doesn't equal good you shit taste bottom feeder
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>>136685666

Yeah, I have a feeling they should change that to "lack of GOOD marketing" instead.
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>>136685842
Mudshitism is dying in the west too, kill yourself /pol/ nigger
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>>136685908
It is dying because most muslims are being westernized and secularized youre a fucking idiot your backwards abrahamic garbage will be extinct as a culture within the next 100 years
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>>136685861

Last I heard Andrew Tate is reviving it hardcore.
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>>136685940
No he isnt andrew tates a fucking idiot who will hopefully get gangraped to death in prison
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>>136685666
One thing about Strange World is it doesn't feel like a Disney film just from the marketing, at that point the Disney brand stops working in its favor. Disney is known for character-centric films and people watch them for that. We see this in recent stuff like Encanto where posters focused on Mirabel, but Strange World? Who's the main character here?
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>>136685666
>>136685851
Strange World definitely received plenty of marketing and advertising. It's just that the movie is so bad and forgettable that even the commercials couldn't get the public's attention yet alone retention.
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>>136685971
>Xir doesn’t know Tate was released under house arrest because there is no case 

Seethe
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>>136686011
Mudshit shit is dying you fucking retard, suck my dick you christcuck cross sucking savage
>>136686013
Not gonna happen you fear mongering christnigger
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>>136686051
>Post a cropped headline written by a woman from a western propaganda outlet

Yeah you sure showed them. It’s not like Leftist areas in the West are ceding space to Muslims. I can’t wait for our first Muslim president, that’s when the real fun begins.
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>>136686114
>nuh uh that doesnt count
None ofnyour conservatard wishful thinking will ever happen you goat fucking ape
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>>136686168
Over 25% of the planet is Muslim and growing while your side can’t reproduce kek. Cope and seethe. Your days are numbered.
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>>136686168

Ah yes, Islam's dying, just like how Hogwarts bombed thanks to the boycott. Oh wait.
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Ugly unappealing designs and art styles. Boring storylines. Nothing feels fun anymore. They're incredibly out of touch with what resonates with audiences. "Woke" stuff doesn't even bother me if it's tastefully incorporated, but there's just nothing at all appealing about either of those movies.
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>>136654305 (OP)
Disney fatigue? Maybe that's a thing now.
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>>136654305 (OP)
Didn't we just have this thread?
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>>136686168
>>136686051
Guards, this tranny has lost zer composure
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>>136687680
Huh.
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>>136668041
Mel really shouldn't be an outlier
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>>136668218
>>136668389
>I'll just pretend the past two weeks of tortanicposting never happened

The Peach at the center of the tortanicposting and the Peace we got in the actual movie turned out to be two different characters. 

Tortantic Peach is a bitch to Mario the entire movie, is the true star of the show, saves the day, and demotes Mario to a slapstick sidekick. Movie Peach is a little snarky at worst at her very first meeting with Mario and gets more affectionate as the movie progresses, she's an important character but the movie clearly focuses on Mario, and Mario saves the day multiple times. 

Some people had bad expectations for Movie Peach, and now that they actually saw the movie instead of a few trailers, they reassessed their opinion of Movie Peach. Plus, it's harder now for shitposts to meme about Girlboss Peach saving the day or doing this or that when anybody can just post a webm of what actually happens in the movie to prove them wrong, so those shitposts also died off after the movie came out.
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>>136688597
Not any of those anons but the amount of retardation surrounding the Mario movie from all parties was absolutely asinine, from its announcement back in 2017 to this very moment. A absolute shitshow of marketing brilliance that carried Illumination and Nintendo all the way to the bank.
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>>136654305 (OP)
Maybe...make a movie that s actually fun to watch? Not something meant to teach us bullshit, or be a forced tear-jerker annoying drama
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>>136654305 (OP)
You love to see it
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>>136667722
Honestly the only reason I'm not going to see it is because Seth Rogan is in it.
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>>136685988
Working title of Strange World was Searcher Clade. I suspect Searcher must have originally been the protagonist, but Disney can't have a straight white male with a happy marriage be the hero, so they tried to make a gay black male the hero. Of course Ethan is always right because all CoC have to be role models.
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>>136654602
Strange World did not look the least bit interesting at all in the first couple images and teasers. It just looked like a collection of uninteresting people being weirded out by wacky alien plants and things. This was long before they started making noise about the MC being a gay black kid with daddy issues.

And with Lightyear, we ALL know goddamn well what everyone wants to see in a Lightyear movie. A run and gun adventure with lasers, robots, and aliens being shot at with epic adventure music. No one...absolutely no one wanted to see a dramatic 70s style bland drama about life, death, and existentialism.
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>>136689520
>CoC
Cocks of Color?
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>>136654305 (OP)
>Tranny janny removed all the pro-Muslim posts and banned me because I BTFO him

I can’t wait until the inevitable jihad against your kind. Powerless thin skinned bitch
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>>136689959
If that's you Paki-chan, I missed you
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>>136689722
Might as well be. I abbreviate "Characters of Color" as CoC and pronounce it as "cock".
>>136689579
Maybe Disney was wishing that mentioning the main character was black and gay would bring a hundred million dollars in box office receipts because certainly their gay fans would support anything woke.
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>>136676268
It's the modern trend of forcing political bullshit into every corner of their lives and never getting off the subject of politics for even a minute. After a while they assume everything everyone does, thinks, or says is politically motivated...since that is how they act. So if someone does not see their poorly made piece of shit, then CLEARLY it's all because the audience is homophobic, racist, or some kind of hater motivated by core belief to not watch it. 

They seem to have gotten this impression that since a movie has an important or hugely positive message on some societal level, then all people are obligated to go watch it no matter what and praise it because the message was so helpful for X marginalized group in the world.

It also makes for a convenient blame shift, all of a sudden the director didn't make a piece of shit. It's just the audience of obvious Fox News watchers that were programed to hate it instead!
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>>136667722
how does youtuber boots taste like, slave?
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>>136668893
>Russian-troll plant
Nice try glowskie
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>>136690177
It's more assuming Twitter is the perfect market testing grounds for all potential ideas and projects. They say something on Twitter, it gets thousands of likes and retweets. They make a product with the same message, it bombs. 7-8 years of this shit and they still cannot figure out why this phenomenon works out this way.
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>>136662837
>. I first noticed this phenomenon with Pokemon in 2013.
It was because of certain swifts.
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>>136685988
Basically, no one watched Strange World because they didn't know what to expect and marketing didn't bother to set any expectations.
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>>136692989
Well, it wasn't funny or exciting or attractive. How do you market a kids' flick when the only substance the the story is more generational trauma?
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>>136692989
No one watched Strange World because it looked ugly and shitty.
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>>136669436
>>normal adults: go woke go broke heh hehe
God tier bait
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>>136662837
what happened with Pokemon then? I don't remember it being that annoying
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>>136667722
Girlboss shit is standard in anime because it makes the "inexperienced protagonist" look like a weak bitch
Nintendo pushed this not because they wanted to be woke but because they saw him and went "hahaha plumber dumb and weak in new world"
In the sequel he is going to be video game mario while luigi and probably bowser are the new punching bags who need to "earn" their place
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>>136654449
>the only woke stuff in Lightyear is a lesbian kiss
Let's be honest: even if that wasn't in there, the film was still complete shit and would have bombed anyway.
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>>136683055
>It had billboards, bus ads, and a ton of commercials playing all the time.
I don't watch TV much, I use ad block on my devices, and I rarely leave my apartment. Guess that's why I never noticed it.
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>>136654602
>Pixar hating the cartoon due to it being Disney-directed-and-produced is a well-known fact.
i didn't know pixar hated disney cartoons.
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>>136696334
In the sequel, Luigi will probably be like Mario: the "new guy." I could see the obstacle course being revisited with Mario showing Luigi how it's done. 

Bowser will probably still be the bad guy, if they use the koopalings, they can be the ones to bust him out of prison.
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>>136685988
the faggot kid was the worst part of the movie. i am probably homophobic or whatever but guys acting girly always irked me unless it was for a gag
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>>136667722
Only discord false flag trannies who are pissmad about chris pratt winning call the movie woke
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>>136696398
Agreed. Having the progression of time demonstrated with a marriage gives personal weight to Buzz's time skipping. The swap from the traditional heterosexual marriage to a homosexual one is essentially like Up being set primarily in South America instead of Africa like originally planned- it's aesthetic. However, you can't cut out the scenes without impacting the story and the delivery of it. Strange World is actually woke. There was absolutely no need for Ethan's crush to be in there. You can cut all of the scenes with the crush and you have a bad but not as bad of a movie as the original. It was only there to show how progressive Analonia and WDAS is.
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>>136696851
... Ethan was never effeminate outside his crush. They could have swapped the gender of Diazo and it would play the same. A decent filmmaker would cut the whole crush for wasting valuable time in a movie.