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--- 57834081
$3000 for a bulged barrel: edition
--- 57835389
>>57834081 (OP)
I found out this company was making 10 round magazines for Mosin Nagants that just replaced the existing magazine endpiece and required no permanent alterations to the gun.

Then I found out that I guess they went out of business years ago.
--- 57838594
My first two milsurp guns have been pistols. I really want a rifle...
--- 57840122
I got to play with some milsurp today. It felt complicated inside when you rack the slide. A lot of moving parts. Really nice trigger tho
--- 57841560
Good evening niggas
--- 57841601
>>57841560
There were times I wondered if you ever slept from all the 24/7 posting you used to do here.
--- 57841609
>>57841601
I have a 4mo daughter. I haven't slept once this year.

But yeah, the mobile IP ban makes posting during my many hours away from home difficult.
--- 57841665
>>57841609
Chan must hate Detroit. Granted the great ip range ban of 20-21 made me fall off for awhile.
--- 57841946
>>57841665
It's not just Detroit. PA, KY, FL, OH... every single state I've been in. Mobile IPs banned, every board.
--- 57841963
>>57829325 →
Did you get on a waitlist from Starline directly or some other retailer?
--- 57841984
>>57840122
>G43
Nice, I've been looking for a qve45 K43 for a little bit now. I got the chance to take one apart a few years back and really like the bolt mechanism, even if it's not the best. Hopefully, I find an unaltered matching one this year.
--- 57842075
>tripfag spam
yep no wonder the last one got autosaged after 200 posts
--- 57842097
>>57841963
Yes. Starline, Buffalo arms, grafs. Probably other places.
--- 57842122
>>57842075
It's called a conversation noguns.
--- 57842206
>>57842097
Alright, looks like I'm getting on some waitlists for some then. I don't need 250 cases, I think 50-100 cases would suffice for my M1871 Rolling Block. Otherwise, I might try reforming .348 Win brass since there was some at the local gun show.
--- 57842504
>>57841984
That one was all matching according to the listing. Dude paid a little over 4k for it. I wish I had time and permission to take it apart, it would've been fun getting all that open.
--- 57842827
>>57834081 (OP)
thats a bsap stamped rhodie webley mkiv.
worth?
--- 57844957
>>57842504
They're a bit unique to get apart but most people do at least take the bolt carrier group apart just to confirm that it matches to the rifle. The bolt components are electropenciled to match which is something rather unique to Gewehr 43s. Who was the manufacturer on that one, Walther or Berlin Lübecker Maschinenfabrik?
--- 57845675
Coolest pre-WW2 .32 acp gun? Best sights? Most reliable?
Pic potentially related but I would like to know more
--- 57846272
>>57845675
While really cool, I prefer a different FN
--- 57846284
>>57845675
Pretty much all pre war .32 pistols are blowback. There are some mechanical oddities though. None of them have that great of sights which is typical of handguns of the era anyways. My FN1900 is a very reliable gun, but my favorite remains my Langenhan which is basically a 1900 clone. The langenhan has a very nice trigger even by today's standards, very nice gun to shoot.

Among others my Sauer 1913 is decent, my Bayard pocket .32 is fun to shoot but the magazine and release are horrendous. My Beretta 1934 is a commercial post war but I find it very meh despite me being a huge Beretta fan. I also think the Walther PP is a very eh gun. Good enough in single action, the double action trigger is among the worst I've ever fired, I consider the double action on my Enfield no2mk1* to have a better trigger than it
--- 57846313
>>57846272
Nice kingdom of Yugoslavia 1922. I like mine, surprised I got it so cheap. People pay premium for the nazi knew despite them being the most boring of the military contract M1922s. I got a copy of the new FN Browning pistols book, I was surprised how many contracts they got on them beyond the common Dutch, Yugo, Nazi ones that are easy to find in the US.
--- 57846746
>>57845675
Daily reminder that 32 acp euroguns just arent worth it any more with ammo at $0.60/rd
--- 57847166
>>57846746
I don't care about that, plus I shoot mostly milsurp rifles so 60cpr sounds cheap to me
--- 57847277
>>57846746
40cpr from SGAmmo and I got it in person shockingly at Scheels at that. Still way more than it has any right to cost, but it's settled around $20 a box.
--- 57849669
>>57841946
>SAA repro
Who made that one? Or is it a later gen Colt?
--- 57849987
what's the cheapest i can get a webley that i can actually shoot?
--- 57850117
>>57849987
$3000, the barrel is bulged tho
--- 57852111
>>57849669
It's a Uberti repro. 3 click hammer unfortunately but I'll get the 4 click soon enough.
--- 57852900
>>57852111
I figured the closest I'll get to a US martial SAA is a repro though I'd like one with a 4 click hammer that can handle smokeless loads without issue. Need one to go with my trapdoor.
--- 57853934
>>57852900
The Uberti handle smokeless just fine, you can add a 4 click hammer for around $85. Considering the Uberti was under $500 shipped, I'll call there good.
--- 57853943
>>57849987
$200 >>57845696 →
--- 57856418
>>57846746
Vz.61 SBR says otherwise.
--- 57856649
>>57846746
.32acp was never cheap.
--- 57858650
>>57840122
>>57842504
How the krauts went from fielding one of the simplest and robust bolt actions ever made that was so good most bolt actions to come after are based on the 98 action, then went turbo autism on autoloaders and came up with some of the most pointlessly complex designs for no reason.
--- 57859728
>>57858650
Well, you have to remember that the Mauser 98 action went through almost a decade of iteration and improvement starting with the Model 1889 and done in peacetime with no massive conflicts. It's also not a simple rifle to make, there's a lot of machining operations done on that receiver and bolt to make it function as it does. In contrast, development for the Gewehr 41 started in earnest in 1938 with the first prototypes complete in 1939, when war had already broke out. Semi auto rifles were still a relatively untested field in the 1930s so a lot of ideas had yet to be proven superior to others. The flap locking system worked well in the DP27 MGs and the patents on it had already expired so it was a logical choice to try out in a semi auto rifle for Walther. The first rifles for trials were made in the spring of 1941 and with the start of Operation Barbarossa, German industry was becoming strained trying to keep up with the demands of the Wehrmacht. The kneecapping requirements originally set out by the HWA didn't help either for the Gewehr 41 with trials beginning for the 2 rifles late in 1941. Experience with the SVT necessitated that the gas system be redesigned as well as the exorbitant cost and time involved in producing G41s with the first Gewehr 43 prototype submitted for testing in January of '43. The G43 was designed and significantly simplified the receiver and some of the bolt components, and wouldn't enter serial production until October of 1943. When you really get down into the weeds, the development for the G43 was extremely short compared to the Mauser 98 and done under a wartime environment that was becoming worse as time dragged on. It worked and the demands for better weaponry on the front significantly expedited all new wartime designs, even if they hadn't been perfected.
--- 57860314
I went to a gunshow today and wonder of wonders they actually had a good selection of surps.
a bunch of interesting mauseroids from persia and south america along with the usual suspects, along some hakims, arisakas and a destroyer carbine
I ended up picking up a berthier becuase I didn't want another mauseroid to add to my gorwing collection of mauseroids
--- 57860339
>>57858650
flag_de
also the mauser action isn't exactly SIMPLE, it was just that good. It wasn't so complex that it couldn't be produced in numbers by the germans, but the greeks and serbians definitely had trouble keeping up
for a good enough dead simple bolt action rifle you should really be taking something like the carcano as your benchmark
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>>57860339
>>57858650
also, for an example of something that is both overly complex and not great
well the mosin is right there
--- 57861583
Are non-matching numbers a dealbreaker?
--- 57861613
>>57861583
Depends. On a common gun yes, on something that you see pop up for sale once every 3 years less so
--- 57861621
>>57861583
For me personally it all depends on the relative rarity and asking price of the firearm. 
>pic related
--- 57862489
>>57861583
I like the reciver, bolt, and barrel to match. Other than that not much.
--- 57862980
>>57861583
yes
--- 57863187
>>57861583
Depends on the price and what you plan on doing with it.
I bought a few cheap non matching guns to shoot them.
--- 57863240
>>57861583
I prefer the receiver and bolt match since they tend to perform better when they do, but normally it isn't a dealbreaker if the price is right.

Pic rel is a turbo mixmaster Czech Brazilian contract but I paid barely $200 for it.
--- 57863275
Dude tried to tell me 3700 for a SVT-40 in decent but not great shape and a broken hand guard was a good fucking deal.
Wouldn't shut up about the no import mark. and the all matching numbers. But would not let me take it down to inspect. 
And went on and on about how it was taken by a GI who took it from a dead german.
And then he threatened me and the gun store owner.
he also wanted around 3,000 for a 1937 k98.
WTF is wrong with people?
I'm fucking done meeting people to buy guns.
--- 57863914
>>57863275
They see outrageous auctions online that are probably fake and think that's what they got.
--- 57863958
>>57863914
He probably is behind some of them.
He claimed he would sell it for 4,000 on gunbroker and he kept wanting to bet me money.
--- 57864013
>>57863958
Should have asked him why the fuck he was wasting his time with you then.
--- 57864059
>>57861583
No because I’m not a faggot. I honestly think it’s a little funny when none of the numbers on my gun match
--- 57864085
>>57864013
Oh don't worry, that was brought up.
He was a very fucking weird man, kept saying shit about how he had autism. 
And not the cool kind.
And kept telling me to read a book.
At least the gun store owner is a cool guy.
He sold me a still packed in cosmoline m48a for 350 last week.
--- 57864279
>>57861583
No, but I'm not going to pay matching number prices.
--- 57864335
>>57864059
I love my mish mashed vz. 24 that's had 2 different rack numbers on it.
--- 57864343
>>57864279
Yeah, they go through the roof.
Saw a 91/59 for 950 bucks. but the non matching one next to it, they only wanted 500 for it.
Magical numbers sometimes.
--- 57864378
>>57859728
I see Ian browses the board. Love your vids bud.
--- 57864393
>>57864378
That's not Ian. I'm Ian.
--- 57864421
>>57864393
I don't believe you. 

Why didn't they just copy the M1 Garand then?
--- 57864453
>>57861583
Some types of vet bring backs won't match. Bolts were thrown in a pile separate from the rifles.
--- 57864468
>>57864421
Okay, you caught me.
I'm othais from C&R arsenal.
--- 57864495
>>57864468
No you aren't. Othais doesn't shit at this time of night.
--- 57864514
>>57864468
How come you never shoot.
--- 57864530
>>57864495
Oh shit, I've been caught again.
Dammit. 
I WAS BRUNO THIS WHOLE TIME!
>>57864514
Well duh...
She cute.
--- 57864715
>>57864530
>I WAS BRUNO THIS WHOLE TIME!
Then you owe me $50.
--- 57864784
>>57864715
How about I pay you in technical animations?
--- 57864815
>>57841946
That’s weird cause I work in KY and browse/poast on here from time to time and have never had a problem with it
--- 57864823
>>57864815
Most of Kansas and oklahoma is blocked too.
--- 57866343
>>57864378
Not Ian, just someone decently well read on German small arms for WWII. I'd love to get myself both a G41 and a K43 one of these days.
--- 57866730
>>57864378
Ian actually hates /k/ because of how autistic people are here, as the constant misinfo and shitflinging.
--- 57866738
>>57866730
*as well as, fuckin phoneposting
--- 57866756
How old does a Mosin-Nagant need to be for antique no FFL needed status? Thx
--- 57866797
>>57866756
C&R rifles need to be 50 years old, so anything made before 1973 is a C&R as long as it doesnt violate NFA
--- 57866807
>>57840122
My cope for not having the G43 is having a hakim
--- 57866864
>>57866756
December 31st 1898 is the last day of manufacture that would be considered "antique" under US law.
--- 57867593
>>57866756
I don't know the answer, but I got ahold of a nugget the other day and I'm pretty happy about it. It's a basic Tula 91/30 and was manufactured in 1931.

I think its pretty cool that I have a rifle that was built 92 years ago that still functions. Out of all the guns I have, it is also the one that has the highest chance of having been used to take a life.

I bought a front sight adjustment tool so I can resight it without the bayonet, probably going to head up to the shooting spot and do that next week.
--- 57867938
Where can I get genuine bong milsurp? I never got issued a few things that I kind of want now as a civilian.
--- 57867953
I've been looking on ebay, but it's all stock images, so it could well be that it's just chink shit.
--- 57867979
>>57867938
IMA have stuff that they say is original, but that stuff may be too old for what you're looking for. 

https://www.ima-usa.com/collections/british-militaria
--- 57868916
>>57861583
Not for rifles, for me at least. Now if it's pistols, then it can mean the difference between a functioning pistol and a fancy paperweight, especially for the WWI semi autos.
>>57863275
SVT-40s have exploded in price the last couple years, glad I got mine for $1200 when I did.
--- 57869174
>>57867979
Do not buy from IMA.
--- 57869420
>>57869174
Sheer curiosity why? Granted the only thing I bought from them was Austrian bayonets since they were 40% cheaper than everyone else.
--- 57869524
>>57868916
Yours looks way better than his.
And I found another one locally for 2,500.
And he said some shit about the mag being 500 bucks.
Found tons of them for about 175-250 a piece.
--- 57869535
>>57866797
>>57867593
Seriously guys? Basic question. 

1898
--- 57869559
>>57868916
I remember when they went from $600-800 to suddenly $1200-1500
--- 57869603
>>57869420
My only issues with them was over priced.
But I was only buying the Martini henrys a few years ago. So I cannot comment on the other guns.
--- 57870285
>>57869174
I recently learned that the Colorado National Guard bought 1895s in 30-40 Krag. Auction house nearby had a rough one that ye olde bubba replaced the rear sight on. Still sold for 2k. RIA sold some nice ones for well over 5. Adding another to my high end want list. 

the last Russian one I saw in person was at a gun show with the classic boomer 'NOT FOR SALE' sign on it.
--- 57870549
>>57870285
>It's a 'Gun Show' buddy. I'm showing my guns. Nothing is for sale.
--- 57871649
>>57870285
>>57870549
Speaking of gun shows, I went to a gun show today. Saw a bit of the usual there.
>M1 Garands for $1600
>1873 Trapdoor for $850
>Finnish M39 with some modern scope slapped on
>bcd 43 K98k with sanded stock, forget asking price
>do not touch Luger carousel
>byf42 P38 for $2600
Did not find any .50-70 but walked out with a bag of .348 Winchester brass that I can convert into it. Some Model 71 shooter probably hates my guts right now.
--- 57872066
>>57864279
>chinese reproduction sling

absolutely disgusting.
--- 57874014
Pg 10 bump. Post cartouches.
--- 57875012
>>57874014
James Sumner Adams represent.
--- 57875105
Yo Im not gunna lie I think I have a problem
--- 57875368
>>57875105
Yeah there's no cowbell in that pic at all.
--- 57875374
>>57875368
I GOTTA FEVA
--- 57875645
You do shoot your milsurps right anon?
--- 57875706
>>57875105
This is the /k/ equivalent of that guy that has 10 miatas in his driveway so he'll always have parts for the one running car.
--- 57876109
>>57875012
Represent.
>>57875105
Got any gas trap M1 Garands in there?
--- 57876370
>>57875645
Once or twice a week.
--- 57876386
>>57872066
If I could find some Finnish swivels it'd have a K31 sling instead.
--- 57876417
>>57876109
Three sub 50k Springfields. But none as actual gastraps. Want to track down some of those repros Criterion made a few years ago for one of em