----- --- 15350686 I am a non-smoker who began consuming nicotine gum recreationally after doing extensive research onto the effects of it. Nicotine is a stimulant that has been shown to have many benefits, including positive effects on fine motor abilities, attention, reaction time, and episodic and working memory[1]. It has been proven to exhibit anti-estrogenic effects[2]. In the short term, nicotine increases energy expenditure and could reduce appetite, which may explain why smokers tend to have lower body weight than do non-smokers[3]. From my own experience, I know that a high dose of nicotine can even give me a mild feeling of euphoria. >but I don't want to start smoking That's why they invented nicotine gum. All of the benefits of nicotine without any of the downsides of smoking. >but nicotine is harmful Tobacco is harmful. Nicotine in isolation, such as in nicotine gum, has not been proven to have any long term negative effects whatsoever. No link between nicotine gum and cancer, diabetes, heart disease or lung disease has been found[4][5]. Every study that found nicotine to be harmful was studying its usage in the form of tobacco, primarily by smoking cigarettes. The only proven downside is that it's addictive, but what is the problem with being addicted to a harmless substance? Even caffeine is addictive >inb4 shill What am I shilling? Go buy generic store brand nicotine gum for all I care. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3151730/ [2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2178432/ [3] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916523235479?via%3Dihub [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_gum#Safety_concerns [5] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27699443 My own experience has been positive and I want to share my thoughts with other people. Don't just take my word for it, as always do your own research. --- 15350899 >>15350686 (OP) Big baccy shill Hijacking this thread with no survivors: How bad is smoking a cigar once every few months? --- 15350976 >>15350899 Illiterate retard, leave my thread. --- 15350986 >>15350686 (OP) All things in moderation - I prefer pipe smoking because it’s less convenient than cigs or popping nicotine gum, which makes it a little harder to abuse. --- 15350999 >>15350976 Have you seen the mirror? --- 15351036 I vape around $6 of nicotine a day. Unflavored to reduce chemical intake and pod-based to reduce environmental waste. Pure(-ish) nicotine is great but it's addictive and costs a lot. I've also noticed weight gain in the belly, which I've read nicotine causing fat to move toward the core. Nicotine users experience a 10-20% reduction in baseline dopamine which is part of the addictiveness. I want to quit but I'm not disciplined enough. --- 15352233 These gums help me a lot with my post traumatic stress. They calm my nerves very well. --- 15352668 >>15351036 Just know that as soon as your coil is burnt *at all* youre starting to smoke metals. Burning it could be on the first hit, fyi. Titanium nails for vaporizing wax come in two price points, $30 and $250. $30 makes toxins, $250 doesnt. --- 15352730 >>15350686 (OP) Don't be a fucking pussy, get a pipe and smoke it like a real man You don't inhale so there's no effects on your lungs, tiny increase in risk of jaw cancer but unless you're puffing all day it's not a real concern Just take care to avoid becoming addicted or it turns into a liability, the withdrawal effects outweigh the marginal health benefits. >>15350899 It's totally fine if you can handle it, just don't inhale. However I find a cigar has way too much nicotine and I feel lightheaded and nauseous by the end of it, a pipe is much more efficient for casual use. --- 15352797 >>15350686 (OP) it's literally poison you retard --- 15352845 >>15350686 (OP) Nicotine contract arteries, as all stimulants do, and consistent usage will cause hardening of the arteries over time, regardless of intake method. Not really worse than caffeine or other stimulants, but it's not "healthy" to strain your cardiovascular system 24/7, even if only by a minor margin. Your body functions at thin biological margins. A tiny amount of change over time adds up to big problems eventually. --- 15353091 >>15352797 >>15350899 Why do people like you come on /sci/ and reply without even reading a relatively short post? Absolutely pathetic, I bet you're phoneposters as well. >>15352845 >Nicotine contract arteries, as all stimulants do, and consistent usage will cause hardening of the arteries over time, regardless of intake method Source? --- 15353092 >>15352668 The coil's in the device? I go through 4 pods every 5 days so if the coil is in those that's good, if it's in the device I should probably replace mine. --- 15353111 >>15353092 Coils are in the pod. If you ever buy a vape with reusable pod, you will notice the burnt metallic taste after about 3 refills at which point it’s utterly disgusting. Disposable pods are the way to go --- 15353122 >>15352845 Source: dumb faggot --- 15353221 >>15350686 (OP) Nicotine is gay. Literally so effective at addicting you with so little reward, you would think it was made in a lab. --- 15353230 >>15353221 Syntethic nicotine is made in a lab and it by itself is, anecdotally, less addictive than caffeine --- 15353261 >>15353230 caffeine is barely addictive --- 15353265 >>15353261 Withdrawals from caffeine far exceed nicotine in my experience. Nicotine by itself is barely addictive, and nearly everyone who hasn’t tried it believes it is extremely addictive --- 15353370 >>15352730 >cigar too much True, especially since the largest sizes are more common. You can go for a slimmer gauge or partially smoke it and leave it for later. In which case, remember to blow the smoke out of it before putting out. --- 15353393 Just started vaping for this purpose. Makes me relax, a little disassociated, like a form of drunkenness. Not much positive effects outside of that, probably due to high concentration. Don't feel any addiction, and regular take breaks to prove it. Only time I think about it is when I'm bored. --- 15353431 Yes but use unflavored snus, like zyn smooth. Vape is bad for your lung (yes heating up metal and plastic and inhaling hot propylene glycol is actually bad for your lungs) and artificial sweeteners are bad for your insulin sensitivity, and mint, the most common gum flavor, is strongly estrogenic. So yes nicotine, but only nicotine. No hot vapours, no artificial sweeteners, no mint. Also swallowing isn't great, in your stomach it turns into something carcinogenic I think. --- 15353550 >>15353431 >Also swallowing isn't great, in your stomach it turns into something carcinogenic I think. But I take mine with hot coffee and melt the pouch in a few minutes... Kicks, I dont get'em like the olden days...so...yeah. --- 15353681 >>15353431 Based Zyn smooth enjoyer. Got a citrus in rn. While being probably the current best commercial nicotine product, Zyn still have one artificial sweetner in them. --- 15354048 >>15353431 Average Zyn consumer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDpxYOr5d5U [Embed] --- 15355707 Any of you guys use nicotine patches? I'm open to trying this but obviously need a baby dose --- 15356503 >>15350686 (OP) Probably won’t kill you, but nicotine in all forms is bad for your boner --- 15356829 >>15350686 (OP) Smoking is definitely a retarded idea, it destroys most of the nicotine and creates tar and carcinogenic stuff, besides the smell. What I do is either nic gum, which can be expensive, or just plain tobacco leaves left on my upper gums. It's so simple I now realize everyone else is a larper. Vape's problem is it rushes into the brain. A senselessly fast absorption is bad because it makes the difference between use and dependency(ΔFosB expression and mesolimbic pathway disfunction). --- 15356842 >>15350899 >>15350686 (OP) >Tabaco shill Just vape bro. --- 15359402 >>15350686 (OP) Nicotine is literally a mind parasite drug designed so perfectly to create maximum dependency off of absolute bare minimum reward possible. Anybody saying nicotine helps with thinking and thus is worth using (kind of but not a lot), is likely massively coping due to their own addiction, or straight up does not know enough about how fucked it is for your mind. I don't like to sound rude or brash, but nicotine is the world's most uneccesary shot in the foot drug-wise, and it's a shame that anybody is even promiting the microscopic effects of nicotine (particularly smoking) when it has been proven to only have like 5% of the effectiveness of working out. Everybody I know who has tried nicotine has gotten addicted, and they hate themselves for it. Biggest headache in the world to deal with (and we haven't even gotten to the financial cost long-term). Don't. Do. Nicotine. --- 15359594 >>15350686 (OP) Nicotine is one of the most based drugs to exist. Our bodies have evolved around its use for hundreds if not thousands of years. It only became super harmful when they started cutting corners and putting a ton of additives in it. I'm almost positive that commercial tobacco in cigarettes is just brown paper soaked in a chemical concoction containing some nicotine, and a plethora of harmful stuff. Also, nicotine stops covid and induces apoptosis of dead cells in your body. It also kills parasites. Don't ever touch commercial cigarettes if you know what's good for you though. It's literally poison. And it's why everyone is now afraid of nicotine in any form. Look into ACE2 receptors and nicotine binding. --- 15359605 >>15359402 You are talking about commercial cigarettes. Or vaping it. Organic additive-free tobacco or the gum is legit. See >>15359594 --- 15359872 i use the lozenges. It does not seem to give me withdrawals upon cessation. It is addictive in the sense of habitual use. Smoking is much different. I don't recommend nicotine, and I don't warn you off of nicotine. Do what you want.