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I am planning to do a trip to Europe this summer, but I am not a frequent flyer.
Do they actually weigh your carry on bag in Europe? My bag fits easily, but it weighs 24lbs or 11kg.
If they weigh it and its above their 8kg limit, can I just take out stuff and put it in a smaller (also fitting) personal item bag right then and there? I would put that bag in my carry on.
Can I put that personal item bag back into my carry on afterwards?

Sorry this sounds like im a retarded tourist, but I have no clue what would happen, I have never had problems here. Thank you /trv/ I absolutely want to avoid checking anything.
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>>2430385 (OP)
Can't speak for Europe, but in North America, there are factors like the type of airline you're flying (if they're a ULCC), and the airplane you're flying on (where the plane may need to be balanced)

Worst thing, you can carry your hormones for transitioning and then place them into your luggage after boarding.
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>>2430385 (OP)
>Do they actually weigh your carry on bag in Europe?
This usually happens with low-cost airlines that actually make money from this. I doubt it would ever happen with a major airline like British Airways or Air France, but it definitely can happen with Ryanair or easyJet.
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Typically the rule of thumb is that no one is going to bother you if you just have everything in a backpack. They usually only make a fuss about huge rolling bags that people can't even lift into the overhead bins.

That being said, what the fuck do you need 24lbs of?? Are you traveling for months? Are you taking your own food?? My guess is that you could seriously downsize your pack and save yourself a lot of trouble. Even carrying an extra 24lbs on your back all day can be exhausting.
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>>2430449
I am a camera gearfag. 24lbs is with that gear and everything else I need for travel. I wont be having 24lbs on me at all time, but I could easily carry it if needed. My backpack is very comfortable. Thanks for your input btw, I hope I slip past with just one backpack.

>>2430440
so if my backpack is over the limit, can I just take out 3kgs, put it in a foldable bag and say thats my personal item? Seems kind of retarded since I would put it right back in afterwards anyway.
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>>2430695
>Seems kind of retarded
It is but rules are rules and the average airport wagie isn't paid enough to care.
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>>2430695
The ultra LCCs that might actually weigh your bag (incidentally, I fly with EasyJet frequently and I’ve never seen them do it) sometimes don’t give you one carry on plus a “personal item”—it’s supposed to be one object in the cabin with you, period. Easyjet charges more to let you use an overhead bin, and that might actually be their official policy too, but they’re not all that fussy with details that I’ve noticed. People bring in a carryon plus food, etc. all the time.
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>>2430759
The only carrier I can remember who actually weighed my carryon doesn’t even exist anymore, I don’t think—Airberlin?
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>>2430385 (OP)
I used to work for the biggest ulcc in Europe, sometimes they can be strict with the sizing but I never saw them caring about the weight.
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Backpack is a great tip, I've been working as a check-in agent at an airport for 5 years and I never checked the weight of a backpack in my life. Keep in mind airlines that operate from their hub generally have much lower standards than foreign airlines as the sheer volume of flights makes it much more difficult to keep track of statistics. Back when I was working on Aegean in Warsaw we had a fuckload of targets to meet, specific quotas of cabin baggages we had to check in but whenever I observed a flight arriving from Athens I've never seen a single cabin baggage tag or any other sticker
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>>2430449
>>2430385 (OP)
>traveling to europe for 3 months
>bringing a small backpack
Just use a laundromat (I did read camerafag tho. I do photography and usually my shit is only 10 lbs max and the tripod collapses)
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>>2431004
>>2430914
>>2430762
thanks, that puts me at ease

>>2431006
I only wear merino wool when traveling and handwash it in a shower. I take one spare of each and 2 spares for underwear/socks.
How do you get all your travel gear + camera gear to only 10lbs, especially with a tripod?
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>>2430440
>air france

They do check in CDG terminal 2F, as 2F exclusively operates Air France flights and nothing else. They will pick people with luggage and make them weigh it. That’s before security. 
They SOMETIMES do it in terminals that exclusively operates one single airline company. They have a dedicated wagie doing it before security so time isn’t wasted for other wagies.
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>>2430759
I’ve flown easyJet several hundred times over the years (decades!) and I’ve had cabin baggage weighed exactly once. There were a lot of people trying to take ten litres of spirits on board which I think is why they were being strict. 

Like the other anon I travel with a lot if camera gear and i stick to the limits. It’s very unlikely it’ll be a problem but there is no way I’m putting my gear in the hold.
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>>2430440
>I doubt it would ever happen with a major airline
They "randomly" check everybody in VIE although you can just walk past the wagie trying to direct you to the scale, he cannot do anything once you've passed the ticket barrier.
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>>2430385 (OP)
just get some bags
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I have yet to had my bag weighed as i normally check a bag. Carry ons will usually only be 5-10 Euros cheaper than a checked bag on Eurowings and Ryanair. I have been on crowded ryan air flights (to the UK from Europe) where they force you to check your carry on unless you"ve paid for their priority boarding...
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>>2430385 (OP)
dont break it
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>>2430385 (OP)
I was in europe last november, and took 11 flights, some low cost carriers (Vueling, Ryanair and Easyjet) and some traditional carriers (AF, Iberia, Finnair), the only one that had a 8kg bag limit was Finnair and in no flights our bags were weighted, but like the other anons said, if it fits it it can probably fly, they don't care that much about weight unless your bag is incredibly large and you struggle to carry it, otherwise they will assume your bag is ok to fly
Also, not all airports have scales, only saw them in Barcelona, Venice and Milano
Regarding your other questions, if the weight is negligible they will let you go through, otherwise yeah, you can shuffle some stuff to other bags, the weight limit in carry-on is less about the fuel cost and more about the overhead bin maximun supported weight
Also yes, you can put that personal item inside your bag in the way to the plane, no one is going to stop you unless like i said, your bag looks massive with it and you struggle to get it to the overhead bin
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>>2430385 (OP)
yes you can