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"content": "a man was murdered and now his family has lost a loved one… and yall are going through his twitter trying to justify his death? same exact thing the right wing do to victims of police brutality. wtf is going on",
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"content": "See what we’re not gonna go is use the term victims of police brutality vaguely like that and ignore the fact that most targets of police brutality are people of color. Also consider that the right uses racist rhetoric to justify said police brutality. Not an appropriate comparison.",
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"content": "Liberals having normal reactions (with Bonus content from this subreddit!)",
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"content": "So I normally don't mind shitting on Democrat candidates, especially when they're established politicians to begin with. That being said, ever since she got endorsed by Biden, every single one of my progressive/lefty subreddits I follow have been flooded with negative Kamala articles and posts that date back 7+ years. I hate to break it to everyone here, but Kamala is as left of a candidate as you're going to see in 2024. An open convention will produce someone to the right of her. Instead of instantly dogpiling, why don't we just wait to see what her policies are? Yes, the liberal response of \"enjoy camps\" is crazy, but to also say you're not voting for her before we even really know what her big policies are is wild too",
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"content": "Literally this. I’m so tired of liberal idealism. We need to elect people that will create gradual change. Did we not learn our lesson when we couldn’t even get Bernie on the ballot, let alone elected as president? We have a very real possibility of Project 2025 happening if people keep acting like not voting for Biden (now Harris) is somehow the best choice for Palestine. Do you think Trump will lead us to a ceasefire? (I’ll help you out here, he won’t).",
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"content": ">I’m so tired of liberal idealism\n\nYou are advocating for voting for liberal politicians. This is literally the definition of liberal idealism",
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"content": "What are you talking about? I’m advocating for voting for the non-Trump candidate. The collective “we” was just democrats who want a progressive candidate (including Hasan whose subreddit we are on, so I don’t really know where everyone here stands) and pushed for him in the 2020 primary. My point is that not even the DNC wanted him. America is not ready for a super liberal candidate. That is what I was saying.",
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"content": "You do not understand what liberal idealism is. Everything you said is liberal idealism. The fact that gradual change can be made my voting for liberal politicians. That is the definition of liberal idealism. I’m confused as to why you’re saying that you’re tired of something that you support.",
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"content": "I think you’re the one who is confused. I’m talking about the people who won’t vote until they find the magical pro-Palestine/ceasefire, UBI, tax capital gains, free healthcare, free college, police/prison abolitionist, federal marijuana legalization, pro-choice, pro LGBTQ, etc candidate. They live in an ideal fantasy land where you can just take yourself out of the equation because you like neither. Systemic change does not come from just waiting til November and voting third party, or just not voting at all. “That’ll show ‘em!” \n\nIdealism is basing your judgment on the candidate’s moral values alone before capability, their actual stances, their history, the needs of this country and the world, etc. That is exactly what these people are doing.",
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"content": "The whole \"incremental change\" concept is liberalism. It's dangling a carrot and giving you a nibble every 10 years. We need drastic change not increasing minimum wage a tiny bit every 25 years so they can claim they did enough.",
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"content": "I mean you’re right, but I guess the crux of the issue is that Kamala has policies that are more progressive than our current system. What she does to implement those is another story. In every possible way, she is the better alternative to Trump, even if she is a horrible liar that only seeks to serve herself.\n\nWe cannot achieve drastic change in 4 months. That is the idealism I’m talking about. Yes, we need drastic change, so let’s come up with a plan to tell the DNC to go fuck itself in 2028 (especially for basically not allowing us to have a real primary in order to achieve that drastic change) and get to work on that now.",
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"content": "The issue is for months in this community, \"better than trump\" wasn't an acceptable bar to pass for most people here to even consider voting for. When Oct 7th happened and we saw Biden's reply Hasan even said he will do what he again to campaign against Biden. Kamala might be better than Trump, but I fail to see how on Gaza she's any better than Biden. A few months ago Gaza was enough reason for most others to be single issue voters, now that's all flipped and people who still consider it a single issue worth not giving Kamala their vote, they're told they're delusional and need to touch grass. \n\nWas it all virtue signaling? I'm getting whiplash from the tone of trashing electoral politics and standing with Gaza to now being downvoted for not voting Kamala. There's nothing socialist about her platform, its the same as Bidens which will just lead into a republican president after her and the cycle will continue. We're more likely to get a progressive if the dems suffer a loss rather then emboldening them showing them the left will fall in line behind their liberal candidates like Kamala.",
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"content": "What do you guys think about Hakim?",
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"content": "He's the reason I actually started reading theory so I'm pretty grateful to him",
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"content": "He genuinely gave me the mindset of if you have a conversation between socialist and in the end you don’t have reading recommendations it was not a good conversation",
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"content": "But im too adhd to read 😟 i can't recommend any book",
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"content": "My adhd gets in the way too, I have found that using highlighters when trying to get through nonfiction is working wonders for me!\n\nOn my first read-through I try to highlight the main point of the section/paragraph, and underline important sub-points that aid the main point. It turns the big walls of text into a scavenger hunt that has me actively and attentively thinking about the sentences that I'm reading.\n\nWhen I go back over the text I can quickly and easily pick out the things I'm meant to digest, which is really helping me understand stuff that I would have always thought was way too difficult for me to get.",
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"content": "This is actually genius",
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"content": "Why is this even a question lmao",
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"content": "The problem is 25% of what? Most billionaires don't accumulate their wealth from income it's from unrealistic profits of stocks they own.",
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"content": "Agreed, this is just a fantasy to make people feel better. You have billionaires making $1 in normal income and then they take out loans dirt cheap against their perceived value and stocks to double dip the system to pay for their lifestyle and other investments.",
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"content": "Unrelated but are there anytimes where these loans backfire on banks? \n\nWhere the person taking out the loan just becomes worth 0 on paper overnight?",
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"content": "The effect that their voice on this matter would have on the likelihood of Biden dropping out is so small that I don’t really care either way. If they think what they’re doing buys them political capital, go ahead and do it",
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"content": "Might even have helped Biden if outsiders attacked him",
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"content": "Liberals having normal reactions (with Bonus content from this subreddit!)",
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"content": "As a non-American, it’s kind of wild your two options for Palestine are “nuked on the first day” vs “slowly killed over four years”.",
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"content": "Those are the two dominant flavours of Zionism ultimately; either right wing(get it done with asap) or \"left wing\"(bleed the people out slowly) Zionism.",
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"content": "I almost kinda appreciate the right wing zionism, because it holds no punches and it's easy to point to that level of fascism and normies see it's bad. This liberal zionism is cancer, cause it lures people in with the hope of change that the liberal zionist never intends on actually doing.",
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"content": "Almost as if Malcolm X had a point regarding conservatives vs white liberals",
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"content": "Wolves vs Foxes",
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"content": "If he couldn’t do it after 2020, what makes this time any different?",
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"content": "There’s two options. If you think there’s more, then Trump it is.",
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"content": "Setting for the status quo is liberal behavior",
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"content": "Elucidate our alternatives.",
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"content": "The Democrats don’t care about you",
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"content": "Why is no one demanding Trump stand down?",
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"content": "No one here voted for him to run in the first place.",
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"content": "I mean with Epstein stuff coming out",
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"content": "You're asking the wrong ppl. No one here wanted trump. Asking a person to stop doing something you never asked them to do is redundant. Biden was forced onto everyone. Now we're being forced to vote for him again.",
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"content": "I mean like the media and Hasan \n\nThey should be blasting this info to everyone",
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"content": "What info? No one here is voting for trump.",
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"content": "He was confirmed to be an Epstein client \n\nHow is this not being covered 24/7??",
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"content": "We've known that for a decade. Why doesn't biden say it?",
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"content": "I'm talking about the media, why is the media not covering it??",
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"content": "“Stop Antisemitism” Doxxed and Harassed a Flight Attendant Over a Tiny Palestinian Flag Pin.",
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"content": "Bourgeois freaks continue to harass, intimidate, and threaten American workers and students with impunity, all in service of defending their genocidal project from any and all scrunity.\n\nThis is the embodiment of freedom for the wealthy, dictatorship for everyone else.",
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"content": "I think their xenophobic movement already lost this generation, fortunately. Silver lining amidst the disgusting behavior.",
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"content": "Indeed. It’s evident on any subreddit that isn’t a zecho chamber: humanity rejects the “criticism of Israel and recognition of Palestine = antisemitism” narrative. \n\nGod some of those subs are depressing. Echo chambers of fear constantly reinforcing the idea that all criticisms are rooted in antisemitism and the world is overrun with it. \n\nThen you see another post in the same sub get heavily upvoted saying “most people in the west just consider Jews white.” \n\nSo which is it? Do non-Jews all foam at the mouth with antisemitism or not even see Jews as different? \n\n*facepalm* \n\nI feel that it’s like the alt right subs- a bunch of bots and bad actors dialing up the terror and anger of the unlucky people who wind up there. Miserable places. Absolutely miserable. I pity the fools who think such represents reality.",
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"content": "We are so cooked.",
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"content": "I don’t know why everyone’s saying this guarantees a trump victory. Who the fucks mind is this changing?",
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"content": "People that are smooth brained independents that aren’t politically savvy.",
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"content": "Which is conservatively .... at least 60 percent of our population.",
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"content": "I’ve seen a lot of infighting here on this sub about who to vote for and if you should vote and I guess I just don’t understand this belief that THIS national election will be the election where we can make any real change. Both parties support the genocide, and I thought the big idea was “ to vote for the party you’d prefer to do the real change under. “\n\nThis is a national election, not a local or state election. It’s either red or blue. That’s just how it is right now. There are no third parties right now. The important work should be done locally, and it will be done slowly. This election is about who you want to do the work under.\n\nI’m a Kentuckian in a currently booming town with a relatively progressive mayor who’s done a lot of good, so I haven’t had to struggle much against republicans aside from the culture war bullshit, but I’d like to think it’d be easier to further my political goals more under a blue President. \n\nI also know both sides are dog shit and opposite sides of the same shit coin, but one side has a little smidge less shit than the other. \n\nAm I seeing things from the wrong angle? ",
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"content": "As I understand things, Kamala is the side of the coin with less doodie on it. I do not like the choices. It would be cool if the other smaller political parties were acknowledged by the media. ",
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"content": "Oh totally if I felt more secure in the third party choices I’d pick them, but there’s just no way I’m going to use my first vote— weather people believe voting matters or not— on a candidate that has no chance yk? I’m voting for Kamala just because she’s the safe and secure choice closest to my political leaning. It sucks but it feels most realistic. After this election I’ll probably go back to worrying about my local government more than anything. Its just very overwhelming right now worrying about who’s going to run the entire country my town resides in :/",
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"content": "https://i.redd.it/e94f2uzrydfd1.gif",
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"content": "I’m non Hasan Piker fan however seeing how how he dog walked Bradley Martin on how second Trump presidency and the issues was so hard to watch. Seeing Hasan go back and forth explaining issues to Bradley and going in depth while Bradley doesn’t seem to grasp it. ",
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"content": "Bradley's response was just more evidence that the democrats have completely dropped the ball on messaging. It also doesn't help that the mainstream media is complicit in the anti immigrant misinformation.",
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"content": "It made real clear how none of the shit Trump says is ever pushed back on properly on the national stage. Every campaign issue crumbled with like no effort. Obviously part of that was that the guy only knows surface level shit about them, but that's the average voter. You have to dismantle that shit before it reaches them.",
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"content": "Yep it just goes back to what Hasan says about having to actually offer people something to vote for. When you just gaslight them about how great the economy is they will listen to the people who are at least acknowledging their dire economic situation.",
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"content": "Big, if true? ",
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"content": "Who is this?",
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"content": "Destiny. He went nuclear on half of the conservatards on X. Was funny as fuck",
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"content": "Can we please stop with the “-tard” insults? What are you, like 12?",
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"content": "Inside the liberal mind",
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"content": "Isn't it possible to be outraged by both?",
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"content": "Let me bounce another one your way \n\nWhat have democrats done to prevent project 2025?\n\nThey won’t do anything to stop it, won’t make evergreen protections on what you care about. Because it’ll make you vote defensively",
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"content": "what would you like to see them do right now to prevent P2025? cause like getting voted in is one way, the the Republicans control the house so no legislation protecting us from P2025 can go through, AOC introduced articles of impeachment for Thomas and Roberts. like what else could they do right now?",
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"content": "They gave the president the power of God king under Biden \n\nWhat are demos going to do stay in power forever until the revolution?\n\nBe realistic the dems are utterly fucked and played out\n\nThe most realistic thing they can do before the election to prove that they want to save democracy is stack the courts but that's just as risky as running Biden in 2024",
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"content": "Your misunderstanding is that our shamelessly biased and corrupt SCOTUS won’t immediately flip flop if Biden tries to exercise any of his new powers.",
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"content": "Respectfully, that is a lib take.",
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"content": "Today I learned Hasanabi heads think that the scotus reneging on giving the president a golden gun is somehow a bad thing.",
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"content": "Would like to send this as a reply to all liberals going on about Project 2025",
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"content": "why is there a constant gatekeeping regarding caring about politics? ",
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"content": "I saw somewhere that leftists would rather do nothing wrong than something right, and damn these subs prove it’s true",
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"content": "good point there mate",
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"content": "Trump shot, seen bleeding from his ear. Carried of stage. ",
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"content": "This election is joever. This picture will be played over and over and over again. A massive inflection point in American history (which apparently happens all the time in this doomed portion of history. Something i really wish would stop)\n\nhttps://preview.redd.it/lbjcxo48adcd1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f17125e1956ccc1e1e9762d0131a60a1054daae",
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"content": "The photo is truly incredible as a piece of media. \n\nJust wow. I truly can’t believe how good it is for Trump. Utterly insane.",
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"content": "It’s even more effective now that we live in the age of social media/ the internet. He knew what he was doing when he got up. Dems are cooked no matter what. This is the rallying cry that unites the people who were leaving the GOP and the fascist wing. They had a chance if Biden dropped out tomorrow but that hope will be all but gone depending on the polls in the next two weeks",
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"content": "Trump getting shot on the side of the head ",
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"content": "Staged...",
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"content": "An attendee was killed. I don't think this was staged.",
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"content": "i saw something saying they werent taken by ems leading ppl to believe he was a crisis actor not say its true or false but speculation is there",
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"content": "If they were fatally shot. I don't think they need to ems them out",
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"content": "thats crazy",
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"content": "Sharing because you guys liked him last time he appeared on the sub.",
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"content": "ok fine fr\\*nce is almost acceptable now. fix the stupid ass language and we're good, i'll stop being mean",
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"content": "What’s so wrong about French language? :’)\n\nLots of silent letters that don’t make sense, I’ll give you that, but damn.",
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"content": "i have chronic sinus infection this makes it very difficult for me to speak a very nasal language",
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"content": "We’re cooked. The conversations of universal healthcare, freeing Palestine, student loan forgiveness…really any policy discussion is toast. AOC on her instagram tonight is out here talking about how Biden stepping down isn’t feasible and she knows how to win elections and blah blah blah. We’re so far removed from making the changes in this country we need that one of our once leading voices of change is the last defender of Biden. It’s crazy, there’s literally no one we can turn to. ",
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"content": "She is doing too much. \n\nLook. If she wanted to just say \"No comment\" at this point, I don't think anyone would give her shit. Continuing to dickride him at this late date is not helpful. \n\nYou're supposed to stir it up in there, AOC. You're playing pat-a-cake with someone who is going to insult you and backstab you at every turn anyway. It's bad strategy.",
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"content": ">pat-a-cake\n\nWhy is this desecration of the American language not being addressed?",
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"content": "It looks wrong. Doesn't it?? I wasn't sure how to spell it either, so I Googled it. I saw it spelled Patty Cake and Pat A Cake. I didn't really get a definitive answer, so I just chose the spelling I saw online more often. [Here's](https://thesingerscorner.com/history-of-the-patty-cake-song/) some interesting history about the song.",
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"content": "Inside the liberal mind",
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"content": "Isn't it possible to be outraged by both?",
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"content": "My one take on this is: if libs are willing to do a genocide in Gaza, they will soon be doing it at home too. Stopping Project 2025 wont atop that.",
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"content": "I think that's a bit of a silly take mate",
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"content": "Why? This is the result of genocide normalization.",
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"content": "Who are you referring to as libs? Usually people use that term for the centrist Democrats",
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"content": "Democrats in general.",
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"content": "They're not going to commit genocide in the US. There's a suggestion that the Republicans might if Trump gets in but even that is pretty hyperbolic.",
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"content": "Prediction for Trump’s 2nd Term: I believe Trump will announce he will be seeking a third term as president for the 2028 election due to him “being cheated” in 2020. He’ll declare it an “official act” and the supreme spurt will allow him to run. Am I off base with this? What do you think?",
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"content": "I know people are doomer about this, but the text is extremely direct about how this works.\n\nIt literally says you cant serve more than two terms. Theres no caveat to colorfully interpret.",
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"content": "Bu bu bu but they're not consecutive terms",
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"content": "Yea but it doesnt say that. Thats the excuse Putin used, but it LITERALLY says “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice”. In Russia’s case, they actually did use the term “consecutive,” hence why he was able to run a shadow govt and then official govt.\n\nLike, theres no precedent in American history. Theres a real path to “the president has immunity for his actions in office as they relate to his official duties,” even if theyr severely stretching the interpretation, but the amendment here is very clear. I cant even find a body of work arguing that the amendment can be interpreted as consecutive.\n\nI always say, Rome loved Caeser. But when Caeser orchestrated a situation where an admirer would crown him, the crowd turned against him.",
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"content": "I want to be very clear that I am sympathetic to Hasan's position of attempting to use a conversation with Asmongold as a way to reach his audience and potentially de-program some of them. Unfortunately, I do not think it worked, and instead it allowed Asmon to evade and water down his message while maintaining his core position. He got to dress up his position in slightly better words, but it remained largely the same.\n\nTo remind people, Asmongold stated that **Palestinians and Arabs have an inferior culture that is evil and immoral.** He doubled down on this the entire stream, and refused to budge even an inch on it. Whenever Hasan would press him, or make analogies to the US, Asmon would simply state that he thought \"Parts of US culture is bad too.\" as an out, but he would never make the same sweeping generalizations about US culture, yet felt completely comfortable to do so about Arabs & Muslims.\n\nIt was disgusting to listen to. I do not think he is arguing in good faith -- Asmongold has the means, time, and money to research and develop an in-depth opinion on the middle-east. He doesn't. He instead plays to his right-wing audience while back-pedaling whenever it goes too far to maintain his centrist image. \n\nArab culture is not evil or immoral. Arab people are kind, community driven people who care about honesty and integrity for the most part. Most Arabs are fine with live and let live, and if asked, would not want the death of LGBTQ+ people. Arab culture is my culture, and is filled with songs and poetry and food and scientific development. Arabs under an Islamic caliphate invented things like Algebra, developed chemistry, and invented a wide range of things we still use today like Kerosene, Hard soaps, wind powered structures of various sorts, sugar mills and more. There is literally a massive wikipedia page dedicated to the developments in science under the Golden Age of Islam. This was at a time when western europeans were dying of common diseases because hand washing was not a thing.\n\nDuring the middle ages, where Europe was burning witches at the stake and gay people were tortured for sport, the Islamic world had openly gay philosophers. In the tradition of Sufi Islam, poets like Rumi **wrote about the great joys of homosexual love.** The laws against homosexuality on the books were rarely invoked. We know this because Arabs kept extensive court records and we can physically see with our own eyes how rare this was.\n\nThis does not mean there weren't problems or reactionaries, or periods of regression, but this is a beautiful vibrant culture with a long history of progressive development that Asmongold completely dismissed.\n\nAsmongold, from his air-conditioned comfortable home sitting in an imperialist country that routinely destroys other peoples homes, hand-waved thousands of years of human development as if it was nothing, and then used some regressive modern regimes (created directly and indirectly by his own government) to play defense for Israel's genocide. \n\nThe conversation with him was extremely painful and sad, and as my friends and family in Lebanon feels the weight of American bombs, I find it all so abhorrent and unfair. ",
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"content": "So does wikipedia just has wrong info on LGBTQ status in arab countries? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_Middle_East\n\n\"Male same-sex activity is illegal and punishable by imprisonment in Iraq, Kuwait, Egypt, Oman, Syria, and the United Arab Emirates. It is also punishable by death in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. In Yemen and the Gaza Strip, the punishment might differ between death and imprisonment depending on the act committed.\"",
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"content": "You’re an intentionally obtuse, Zionist, piece of human trash. No one is going to engage with you on this. If you listened to Hasan explain to Asmonmold why illiberal attitudes on LGBTQ people doesn’t justify genocide, murder, bombing, etc for three hours and you still don’t get it, you never will.",
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"content": "I admit I only watched the debate for a few minutes. Asmon was just being like \"I agree with you but I still think their culture is inferior\" so I just stopped. Anyways, I don't think genocide is ever justifiable, even if majority are evil. Because there's always going to be innocents you'll end up hurting.",
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"content": ">Will people vote for someone they think is cognitively impaired just to keep Trump out?\n\nYes man I would personally want a corpse in that spot than any Republican.",
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"content": "Then, reread the last paragraph.",
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"content": "You should take every election seriously regardless of what the dem's are saying. You shouldn't have to be told it's important or that democracy is on the line. All that shit is irrelevant.\n\n \nThe fact of the matter is the left's efforts are *harder* under Republican rule.",
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"content": "Unfortunately, Democracy *is* on the line this time. But Bluemagat isn't acting like it.",
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"content": "Blue MAGA is working day and night trying to replace Biden.",
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"content": "The daughter of the man that lost his life at the rally yesterday. Condolences to this family 💔 This is really sad no matter what you believe in 😞",
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"content": "The lack of nuance and normal-ness in this comment section is wild. The guy was literally a victim of propaganda, a random white cishet guy is literally the target demographic for maga propaganda. Hasan would call you all weirdos jfc get some sensibilities.",
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"content": "Get over it.",
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"content": "Oh cool cus I got over it like 5 minutes after I commented that lawl. 👅",
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"content": "Good, that's what he wanted the Japanese to do.",
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"content": "What does that mean",
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"content": "https://x.com/Corey_Comper/status/1718385238152282202?t=j9JpELaW-F7IKsP2HgvPNA&s=19",
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"content": "Holy shit - Fire fighter can’t help her with that burn",
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"content": "Skies of Gaza",
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"content": "Incorrect. Israel hates blacks and gays regardless of who’s in office",
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"content": "A lot of us are Black, as there are both many black Jewish people, and many other Black people from several countries that have moved here/that we host as refugees.\n\nAs for \"hate gays\" - you are so clearly not familiar with Tel Aviv or with Israeli Liberals in general. It's a huge thing.\n\nThe truth is, not everything that checks some items on the 'evil checklist' checks every item on it.",
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"content": "\"Medieval Europe did not have antisemitism because they hosted Jews\". Does that sound alright to you?",
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"content": "My streamer's compromised dude 😭",
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"content": "NGL dk why Donnie was humoring that shit.",
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"content": "He had that content-demon in him's my best guess. The guy's soooort of divorced from the terminally online discourse, but I did find it to be a bit much.",
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"content": "Yeah Donnie seems like an alright guy, but after the first couple of times Hasan said no he should have dropped it.",
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"content": "If we held a convention with leftist creators and candidates hosting a rally to not just get people to vote for these policies but also to inspire people to take action, would people go? I ask because I got absolutely dogpiled on here for criticizing the DNC for not having more leftists and not listening to the protestors. ",
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"content": "Pretty sure the DSA and YDSA put on these types of events annually",
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"content": "Oh I had no idea, has hasan covered these or been invited?",
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"content": "Not sure! Pretty sure the DSA National Convention got flamed pre-COVID after going viral for some “cringe woke” moments, unfortunately. \n\nhttps://youtu.be/bHRxu3XrsHg?feature=shared",
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"content": "I was thinking Hasan was on to something when he talked about them backing Biden or being quiet was a strategic move to get him out and not blame the left. Seeing how hard they are defending him has me so confused why they are doing this. I didn’t mind the generic support statements but Joe seems to have something on them wtf",
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"content": "Hasan explained it, and Ilhan is executing. You support the candidate, because you don’t gain anything by going against him and supporting Mamala, for example. \n\nIf he stays in, you don’t lose anything. If he steps down, you’re now in play- Kamala will come with promises for support. That’s politics- the progressives want to trade their support for future policy or positions. \n\nAnd, added bonus, you can criticize the senior centrist Dems for shit they ALWAYS do and it’s technically defending Biden. \n\n“Sure is a shame that our leadership is feckless, and never comes up with a reasonable plan and stand on until the last fucking minute.”",
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"content": "Fair. I really hope that’s the case because from the outside it appears bizarre for sure",
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"content": "It looks bizarre- but you’ll note on a reread of the tweet, nothing she said was actually IN support of Biden.",
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"content": "Folks need to understand what Jim Crow Genocide Joe’s baseline is. This idea that he was ever a brilliant speaker(or a decent man) is BS lol",
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"content": "Trump it is then!",
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"content": "It’s so weird that time happens and changes perspectives and values. Bidens still a schill. But let’s not pretend there’s even a hard choice here. If you don’t want to vote for Biden then don’t vote. \n\nCue the usual replies.",
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"content": "Trump it is then.",
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"content": "TruMp iT iS tHen",
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"content": "Are you 4? 😂",
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"content": "j'adore les français (caution: chuds in the comments) ",
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"content": "I don’t care what he thinks, this is just bad form. Government is for everyone with all opinions. Were he appointed or anointed, my opinion would be the opposite but he was voted in by fellow citizens was he not? His views may be despicable but this is the wrong way to show opposition. Use your words - like a civilized adult.",
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"content": "What, it's not like they punched him in the face? Not shaking his hand is not violence",
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"content": "[ Removed by Reddit ]",
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"content": "lol i know he’s wildly zionist on his social medias, but as his constituent, i think it’s my duty to annoy him as much as possible. the Kamala volunteers will at least answer my questions",
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"content": "A similar thing happened to me. I was getting texts and emails to sign up to phone bank for Kamala. Finally I texted back to a number that I’d happily door knock or phone bank once she changes her stances on immigration and Palestine. I received a “thank you for your time” and have since received 0 texts or emails. \n\nIt reminds me of how the DNC didn’t allow a Palestinian speaker. Someone, I forget who, said that it signals they are not welcomed in the party. I agreed then and I agree now—the Harris campaign has calculated (imo wrongly and moronically) that it can win without people who refuse to vote for her over those issues",
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"content": "I’ll share my interaction with Kamala’s volunteers. I somehow got signed up for Trumps texts and those fuckers are way worse. I was practically begging to removed from their lists and I think it finally worked\n\nhttps://preview.redd.it/w1x7ipca5jvd1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6710facf20be3748c23bad8955729a9036f2459c",
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"content": "https://preview.redd.it/cj3m1d5c5jvd1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=134dbef1cd2493c209127400f3ee5896189c448b\n\nlol “i can’t answer every question” i asked two questions😭",
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"content": "The audacity to ask for your support after lmfao",
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"content": "at least the campaign is consistent",
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"content": "Liberals having normal reactions (with Bonus content from this subreddit!)",
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"content": "on another sub i said that nothing will change if they keep voting dems and that they buy the same shit every year and they all kept saying that my family was gonna get bombed more (i’m lebanese arab and they are bombing around my families homes) the way white liberals start talking is fucking crazy",
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"content": "They’re saying the same shit in this thread",
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"content": "fucking rabid",
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"content": "Trump shot, seen bleeding from his ear. Carried of stage. ",
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"content": "This election is joever. This picture will be played over and over and over again. A massive inflection point in American history (which apparently happens all the time in this doomed portion of history. Something i really wish would stop)\n\nhttps://preview.redd.it/lbjcxo48adcd1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f17125e1956ccc1e1e9762d0131a60a1054daae",
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"content": "Why is the secret service not getting him down and out of view?",
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"content": "They did. One comes off stage left to jump on top of him.",
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"content": "He always has a point",
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"content": "I mean… They are causing pollution backing up traffic and all they are doing is pissing off their fellow proletariats. Can’t they focus it somewhere where it actually hurts their profits? Like block the entrance to refineries or ports or something?",
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"content": "You seem to misunderstand the point of protesting",
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"content": "It’s to raise awareness yes? What’s the point if everyone you are effecting is gonna vehemently hate you and therefore your cause?",
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"content": "Hi guys.\n\nSo I really love this community. Hasan has done a lot for me. He's helped me to become a good person.\n\nThis community has been a beacon of growth for me and I'm super grateful.\n\nBut on my journey I eventually stumbled upon the issue of veganism and I donno, I kinda - following a lot of the logic I learned here - thought that vegans were right in a lot of what they were saying. \nSo I decided to properly check out all of their arguments and watch vegan documentaries and really open myself up to the possibility that vegans might be right, and long story short- I decided that they were, and now I'm a vegan.\n\nAnd I donno.. It's like now that I am, it's like I'm seeing things from a whole new perspective, and I feel like all of the arguments people here make for humans, can be applied to animals, and it just feels like a whole lot of people are preaching about how we should be better, while being complicit in one of the biggest horrors that exists.\n\nI feel like.. Like you know how we call what's going on in Gaza a genocide? Because.. well because it is a genocide. But people who don't get that accuse us of using inflammatory language? \nBut then vegans will say that what's happening to animals is an animal holocaust. And I feel like that's true. They're literally confined in cages for their entire lives, and then killed. Pigs are literally gassed to death. Like... You don't get more holocaust than that. \nBut then Hasan dismisses veganism and thinks that vegans are being extra with their views...\n\nI don't know. \nJust like how it's difficult for you guys to be part of democratic spaces that are in support of what Israel is doing; I too find it hard to be part of this space when you guys are in support of what the meat industry is doing.\n\nI don't if that sounds dumb? But that's how I feel and I'd just like to know what you guys think about this issue.\n\nI'm not really looking to argue or convince anyone to go vegan, but I am wondering why people in this community aren't as a whole opposed to animal farming, and in particular- factory farming. \nIt's just like- if farming animals causes harm to animals, and there are viable alternatives, then how do you justify eating animal products?\n\nTl;dr: Why aren't you vegan?",
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"content": "You're not going to like my answer. But I'm just going to be 100% honest. I value human life way more than other animal life.",
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"content": "That’s completely missing the point. Valuing human life over animal life doesn’t solve anything.",
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"content": "Solve? I didn't see anything about solving a problem that was posed? I read how can we care about Gaza, but not animal.consumption?",
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"content": "\"The Democrats\" are literally the people who voted in the primary. You're not voting for one person, you're voting for a political party, many of whom are explicitly pro-Palestinian and pro-ceasefire. If you didn't do everything you could to stop the explicitly fascist party from taking over the executive branch, you're complicit in American fascism. It's that simple. ",
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"content": "I love it when Blue MAGA tells me to shut the fuck up and support a candidate facilitating a genocide. Really makes us feel like a democracy you know?",
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"content": "you can vote for who you like--no single vote is all that important. at the same time, supporting a white supremacist authoritarian aligned with the Kremlin so you can experience a frisson of moral rectitude is immature behavior.",
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"content": "Nobody here supports Trump. You are delusional.",
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"content": "if you're not an anti-racist, you're a racist. If you're not supporting the anti-MAGA coalition, you're MAGA.",
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"content": "The anti-MAGA coalition is not anti-racist by default; get the fuck out of here.",
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"content": "Would like to send this as a reply to all liberals going on about Project 2025",
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"content": "Nonsensical whataboutism.",
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"content": "Whataboutism is also when you tell people to accept blue fascism and blue genocide.",
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"content": "It will never not shock me the sheer amount of contempt you Redditors have for non-Americans and non-white people\n\nLike you really would put each and everyone one of us in a gas chamber for your fucking piggie treats",
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"content": "“Not letting literal white supremacists and neo-Nazis take over the government” == “Blue MAGA”",
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"content": "Most liberals are literal white supremacists",
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"content": "Counterpoint: Joe fucking Manchin has done more to advance the cause of racial equality than 99.9999999% of american leftists.",
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"content": "Racial equality as in equally putting a cop’s boot on everyone’s throats?\n\nThis is honestly the sort of shit I mean about the pasty white little Nazis all you liberals are, one piece of shit white liberal owned by fossil fuel moguls is worth more to a white lib than the entire Civil Rights Movement, BLM, and every leftist in their country\n\nIf that doesn’t tell you the average white lib would smash a black or Palestinian baby on a tree just to protect their privileges idk what can (for the leftists reading this interaction)",
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"content": "LB fucking J did more to advance the cause of the Civil Rights movement than every \"radical\". Heck, Joe Manchin (as odious as I find the guy to be) did 10000 times more to advance the cause of racial equality and the environment than anyone frantically churning out antiracist screeds on social media. First by voting to caucus with the Dems, then by voting for the ACA, ARP & IRA. And voting against ACA repeal.",
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"content": "Lmao, white lib goes mask off, kick rocks freak",
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"content": "Ukraine does have a Nazi issue…",
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"content": "So what exactly is the Nazi part here? The eagle?\n\nBecause to me it looks like an Aquila, an eagle standard of a legion, with the Ukrainian coat of arms inside it. \nIn other words, a symbol you will commonly find in any military with some loose connection to the Roman empire. \nSimilar to how a lot of countries use the iron cross and the Nazis also used it because they were also a country at one point.",
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"content": "I'm currently in Germany for the first time and see eagle symbolism everywhere, very similar to this. Just because the Nazis used something doesn't mean it's Nazism or something",
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"content": "Yes, Albania and the US also famously love to use eagles. People just really like eagles and also the Roman empire.",
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"content": "Y’all are doing nothing by just throwing more posts about the same damn issue in the sub. Putting more of a spotlight on it doesn’t fix anything, it really only makes the situation worse. This is also why people think we’re fucking insane; we’d rather complain about the same thing over and over, than try and shift focus to genuine issues, or shift the tone to foster genuine discussion.\n\nSome of y’all seriously need to get off Reddit for a while. That is all.",
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"content": "And just like that, you added one more H3 post to the pile",
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"content": "And hopefully the last one. I’m tired of having our leftist spaces being turned into drama farms by a bunch of folks glued to their screens. How are we supposed to make progress towards anything when all we can focus on is drama?\n\nI mean how the last stream ended is a literal reflection of how this kind of behavior damages our reputation and makes it difficult to focus on actual issues. Fucking chatters just want to stoke the flames.",
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"content": "You realize this is a sub for hasan piker who is one guy, not the entire leftist movement. And Ethan deserves to be shat on at the very least",
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"content": "If you think “shitting” on other folks like Ethan does anything positive you’re a deluded child who thinks screaming solves problems. \n\nI understand it’s not a monolith space, but it’s the hasanabi sub, not the h3 sub, so that isn’t really a good argument to make to begin with. Y’all just want someone to be angry at even when it doesn’t have an impact on you. No real issues are ever going to be solved if leftists only care about “shitting” on online celebrities. Grow the fuck up, you’re doing nothing, except maybe making YOURSELF feel better.\n\nThis is the exact kind of behavior those pests from Destiny’s community engage in; is that really what you want to spend your time doing? Does it accomplish anything when they do it, or is it just annoying prattle?",
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"content": "lmao I’ll shit on whoever I want to, I’m a communist, Ethan represents a rotten system, fuck him",
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"content": "a man was murdered and now his family has lost a loved one… and yall are going through his twitter trying to justify his death? same exact thing the right wing do to victims of police brutality. wtf is going on",
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"content": "Do all victims of police brutality get killed at a fascist rally they willingly attended to support?",
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"content": "just like some victims of police brutality they are not perfect! e.g. george floyd hated black women… and we (black women) still showed up to support because we have an understanding that the state should not kill civilians. same goes for this man, he shouldn’t have been killed regardless of his politics and we definitely should not be praising the death of a human being? i can understand not caring when idf soldiers are killed because those are actual evil people, acting out fascism personally. this man like literally half the country is a maga hog… so why are we celebrating his death? as if the loss of his life achieved anything positive?",
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"content": "Did the state kill this dude? Would you be upset if trump had got killed instead?",
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"content": "hell no… that’s an aside. my main point is a man was killed, a randomer that has a family, daughters, siblings etc. and people are trying to find ways to say he deserved it? idk maybe i’m missing something, i literally do not understand why people are doing this? maybe i see it differently, was he a bad person, politically yes… does that mean he deserved to die…?",
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"content": "Okay? Daddy shouldn't have been a fascist and he'd still be alive. I think you need to remember that these are the same people who would kill you just as much as look at you just for being a leftist or a Trans person. Remember how the entire right wing debate stage was gooning over how they'd kill Mexicans at the border during the primaries?\n\nThis isn't the times before where we disagree on spending policies. He wanted people dead. He got what he deserved.",
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"content": "realising this isn’t a topic people can come to agreement on or i can sway people over on. i guess i’m just an extreme pacifist",
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"content": "Look, at the end of the day, there is a point where people accept the only way out of a situation is violence. For the left, it's when the other side starts talking about mass murdering people. For you, it may be when there is a gun pointed at you, I don't know. But I think it's pretty reasonable for people to not be upset by those that are gleeful when large numbers of people die get what's coming to them.",
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"content": "Babe wake up , the new antichrist dropped ",
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"content": "YEEESSS, the republicans are maxxing their insanity",
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"content": "Their brains broke \n\nThey have no idea how to fight her besides eliciting Lucifer right now lol\n\nThey can’t say racist or sexist shit so they’re short circuiting",
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"content": "Some are mask off, just waiting on some of the bigger names to say the quiet part out loud. 🤫",
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