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[ [ "book the train if possible. it’ll save you a lot of time and it’s fairly inexpensive." ], [ "Search on carousel for transport to Singapore. Ubhave a few choices like starex." ], [ "KTMB Shuttle Tebrau. RM5 per person, dedicated immigration counters just for train passengers so you never have to wait too long to get through" ], [ "SGMYTAXI , they can pick you up and drop you off. Just book with them" ] ]

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[ [ "kena isi buku log tahunan la tu, kalau tak habis, tahun depan dapat peruntukan kurang 😬😬😬" ], [ "I know a lot of Little Jakarta and Little Acheh. what about these?" ], [ "Klu dorang buat kerja sepanjang tahun, little dhaka takkan wujud..\nKenalah \"show\" sket pdrm buat kerja.." ] ]

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[ [ "Wait till you find out we have 1 company that monopolised cement that is used to build all the building and infra around us", "YTL?", "Yeah immediately thought about that, they literally have they company name as \"YTL Cement\"", "Yes it's fucked it even indirectly affected the bagged cement price that people used for renovation", "theres ytl and theres cima", "There’s also only 1 company monopolized inspecting vehicles, 1 company that monopolized collecting toll fees and used on most major public transport", "As long as the quality and price remains good, i don't really mind. Don't want to suffer tofu dreg constructions just because the officials and developers decide they want more money in their pocket so they forgo good cement.", "Tofu dreg construction exist regardless of the absence of bad cement dealer.", "It would be harder to cover up when there is only one supplier and an audit proves no purchase to that supplier was made.", "Accurate/Inaccurate to a degree. Bad cement doesn't need to be purchased upfront, they can still skimp on the so called good cement when doing mixing. Purchasing good materials is just one factor, using them is another factor.", "We also have kartel beras", "Really? What about Lafarge, Hume, Tasek, Cemix, Evermix ? What did they sell?", "lafarge sell cement directly here?" ], [ "What do you mean? The Malaysian economy is controlled by monopolies and cartels.", "Yep, it's the main reason why our COL is on par with that of developed countries in many aspects in spite of the tens of billions spent on subsidies every year.", "Are you sure, a lot of tourists and expats from developed countries think otherwise. Also don't forget Singaporean like to shop in Malaysia bcz the price here is cheaper than theirs.", "What currencies are the tourists and expats earning?", "Don't convert the currency, but think in terms of 1 to 1 ratio, a person earning RM3k spending in KL compared to a person earning SGD3k spending in SG. In most cases, the person earning and spending SGD in SG will easily have 1.5x more savings than his MYR earning counterpart despite both having similar frugal lifestyles.\nAnd I'm not talking about buying iPhones or the latest gadgets. Basic necessities like food is so much cheaper in SG than it is in KL. You can get nasi campur or chicken rice for less than SGD5 while it would cost at least RM8 in KL. Not to mention that the portion is bigger there. Yes, rent is expensive in SG recently, but it is just as expensive in KL especially if you want to stay anywhere near a train station.", "COL?", "Cost of Living?", "And triads. This is something that is rarely discussed in the media, and has a chokehold in the economy and politics." ], [ "Kartel Daging how?", "Ya what ever happened to the halal meat fiasco involving meat cartel?" ], [ "I think in most countries, monopoly is not illegal, but anti-competitive or consumer practices are." ], [ "It's always the chinese", "That's kinda racist bro", "Just a bit of banter", "its always kelantanese" ], [ "so.....who will get the money when most of the damaged is done to the customer base. gomen will pocketed it again then? never to be seen the light again I presume or benefit the rakyat in anyway?~" ] ]

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[ [ "See an Obgyn. They can do an ultrasound scan to look for a gestational sac.", "Thank you, I will go to a clinic in the next week. Will also update it here once I have it done, surely no one cares but just for the sake of updating.", "For what’s it’s worth, modern pregnancy tests are very very accurate so it’s more likely you’re not pregnant. However best to get it checked out", "Hi! Oh my!!! I wrote the post in the morning, currently it's midnight and I got my period. I guess I don't need to worry anymore. But I still will go to a clinic to get checked for possible PCOS or any other issue. ❤️ I feel like a huge burden is finally lifted up my shoulder now.", "Thats great! Happy for you. Either way, bookmark how you can order abortion pills online just in case", "Dont have to go that far, GP in those small clinics also can help check for pregnancy. You just need to find those with ultrasound written outside them. You should start with that first to confirm its not pregnancy and maybe it’s something else.", "Ya good option also. Lots of experienced GPs out there as well.", "What nonsense, if it doesn’t show up in the pregnancy tests, it will 100 million % not show up when scanning for the gestational sac.\nEdit: Facts being downvoted?!? Way to go r/Malaysia!", "That’s only one of the reasons to see an Obgyn. Besides doing an ultrasound scan which will be the first thing they will do, they can take serum beta HCG levels amidst other hormone levels to work up for causes of missed period. What nonsense? So confident? You’re a Doctor? Coz I am.", "What kind of a shit doctor are you? If the HCG levels are not high enough to be seen on a home pregnancy test kit, there is absolutely ZERO chance it'd be at the stage where you can see a gestational sac. ZERO.", "Are you absolutely sure she is using the pregnancy test properly over a comment on the internet? If you were a doctor you would know there’s many variables that can’t be excluded over internet posts.\nActually I’m glad you stopped by to grace us with your distinguished wisdom acquired after ?a brief Wikipedia session. This is also the reason why we don’t advise people to post asking for medical advice on Reddit, and if they do, the default good answer will be to see a doctor in person. If not “learned individuals” will show up and talk out of their ass. Great example right here.", "You're getting dowmvoted because you're rude af", "This.", "reasons to see an Obgyn. Besides doing an ultrasound scan which will be the first thing they will do, they can take serum beta HCG levels amidst other hormone levels to work up for causes of\nPregnancy test kits rely on hormonal levels in the urine, which are not always accurate. Ultrasound scans literally reveal a new human growing inside of you. At 6 weeks, its the size of a full stop.\nYou should take a cue from your username and go learn some more.", "Pregnancy test kits are not always accurate early on. No doubt. But by the time there is a gestational sac, the Beta HCG levels will be so high there will be a clear T line on the test kit.", "??? Thats so misinformed", "It is impossible to see a gestational sac on an ultrasound scan if a non-faulty, properly administered home pregnancy test kit is used. Show me proof of my \"misinformation\".", "So you’re absolutely sure that she used a non faulty properly administered home pregnancy test kit?", "Bro, it’s OP’s life and body, just let them check if they need the affirmation, what’s so wrong with that? We are here to help them if they need it some more\nWhy you come in all pessimistic and grumpy for what? You acting like you know them irl ☠️☠️", "An ultrasound is the gold standard confirmatory level." ], [ "Go for a checkup, my ex missed her period for more than a year due to hormonal problems, tried modern medicine, Chinese medicine but it just somehow came back one day, right after resigning from her job, guess stress is part of it as well? 😂😂", "It can be. 3 times already I've had this experience where my period missed for 3 months. All 3 was related to stress - end of year exams twice and a burnout.", "Yes, I actually recently started a new job, and it has been stressing me out a fair bit. I've considered it to be part of the possible reason on the lateness. Just the possibility of being pregnant still makes me anxious. But thank you for sharing, it eases my worry, I am hoping that it's just a funny moment I can look back on.", "Can confirm stress make my period come earlier and also later too. Sometimes almost two months late.", "Why are you driving without putting on your safety belts in the first place...? Remember next time to be save rather than gets into unnecessary trouble by putting on the safety belts every time you're driving.!!!", "What to do? Everybody open leg too easily", "This girl is scared and doesn’t need your comment right now. Don’t you think she already knows?", "Yea, my wife used to work in a toxic work environment, that time her period also became very irregular. Not to mention, she become even more stressed when her period did not arrive on time causing it to be even later.\nAfter quitting and finding a new job, her cycle goes back to the regular schedule.", "Stress and not eating enough can definitely fuck up your cycle.\nSource: Me." ], [ "Hey gurl, your health comes first, always. Please no dodgy Shopee pills. Sent you a DM!" ], [ "Just go clinic with ultrasound. No gestational sac means not pregnant. No need for all the panic and pills" ], [ "If your tests are negative, please do not jump to abortion, whether pills or whatever. Go to a gynae, tell them you're worried because your period is late. That's it, no judgement." ], [ "If you were two months pregnant (4+ weeks) you would MOST DEFINITELY get a positive pregnancy test and have symptoms by now. A missed period doesn’t automatically mean pregnancy. You could have a hormonal imbalance, PCOS, or thyroid dysfunction and that’s why your period hasn’t come. Regardless, Please be smart, wise and love yourself enough to go a clinic and get checked out. Make sure to get a scan and blood work and while you’re at it, ask to get on birth control ASAP (either the pill or an IUD) and tell your dude to man up and wear a condom too (and avoid STDs while you’re at it). It takes two to tango. And if your guy doesn’t want to wear one, then walk out. It’s not worth it for a full 5 seconds of pleasure. Please educate yourself on safe-sex practices 🙏🏾 if you’re not ready to have a baby, then do everything you can to avoid a pregnancy. Put yourself first, sister.", "Thank you! I will be having a check up soon. Rest assured, my BF is very responsible, always making sure we're safe and on top of all if I'm okay. But I just don't want to worry him too :')" ], [ "Missed periods can just be that, missed periods. Don’t worry :) You can go to a clinic and ask that the doctor do an ultrasound to eliminate possibility of pregnancy. No need to go to an OBGYN unless you do have one that you trust." ], [ "Pregnancy tests are nearly 100% accurate, and is generally detectable 2 weeks (more or less) after you had unprotected sex.\nGiven that's it's been more than a month and entering 2, I can almost assure you you're most likely not pregnant. It's like what others have said, you may have hormonal imbalance causing your delay.\nYou may have PCOS (Polycystic ovary syndrome). What I can suggest is for you to take a morning after pill to induce a period. Go to a pharmacy and ask for 1 Escapelle.\nAlso, definitely see a gynecologist if you're super worried. They will be able to help you out.\nGoing forward, please practice safe sex by taking appropriate contraception (whether condoms or pills or IUD or implant).", "You don’t specifically need Escapelle. You can ask for generic versions of morning after pills, and some come in a two-pill form that causes less intense side effects." ], [ "Don't buy pills online. Seriously.\nGo see a gynae - get ultrasound done.\nIf you're not pregnant - congratulations. See my comments below.\n3.a. Please use double contraceptives - get on the pill/IUD/Depo Provera/Implanon and also use condoms (condoms also protect from most STDs). No contraceptive is 100% failproof which is why you should use two methods.\n3.b. If you don't want to be on daily contraceptives because you're not having sex regularly, at least use condoms AND take morning after pills such as Postinor- you can buy them over the counter. Do note that most, if not all, morning after pills can only be taken twice a month.\n3c. Carry condoms every time you go on a date so if things get hot and heavy you'll always be prepared. Don't rely on your date/partner to be prepared. You must protect yourself - so put your health and safety first. Which leads me to point 3.d below.\n3d. Get tested for STDs if you had unsafe sex. If you're in Klang Valley you can get tested for free at NGOs such as KLASS in Sentul/Setapak.\nOP, DM me if you need more info/someone to talk to. I've been in your situation before.\nAll the best!", "I disagree with 3b. If you’re using condoms and the condom doesnt break, please don’t take the morning after pill - it wreaks havoc on your body and it’s only needed if you have had unprotected intercourse.", "Every hormonal contraceptive has side effects.", "Are you speaking about the pill or morning after? The combined pill is designed for daily use, but the morning after pill is not and is not designed to be used regularly. It can be very unpleasant, and is not needed if you’re using one form of contraception.", "Yes. Don’t do 3b." ], [ "Girl, your period could be just late… hormone changes, stress all adds to it.\nDon’t be hasty ! The pregnancy test is negative. Belief that. Pregnancy test nowdays can detect early pregnancy.." ], [ "Check w a gynae. I missed my period for half a year due to overexercising (used to do super long distance run). Then one day I decided my body cant do it anymore, I scaled back, then I got my period. Very low body fat in women is not good and mess with hormonal cycle. If youve been losing weight recently from stress, this can be a major trigger for why your period skip" ], [ "Sexually active? Use a condom please. Or take the OCP and regularise your cycle.", "Yep. Lots of STDs out there too. Pregnancy is the least of your worries.\nUse protection for good health, and never let anyone convince you otherwise until you are in a long term and committed relationship." ], [ "Go to those clinics with ultrasound. Don’t worry. Just checking only." ], [ "https://www.reddit.com/r/malaysia/s/8OBDm94QOm" ], [ "Get the test done in a proper clinic/hospital. Please dont use random abortion solution. Also if multiple test are showing negative it's prob pretty accurate but i'd still do a proper checkup for peace of mind. My ex's pregnancy was detected in 3 days with the kit." ], [ "Hi there are a lot of causes to period delays. I suggest u check with ur doc regarding this. Assuming u did not perform any coitus (which I assume u did), u can try checking if u have PCOS. Or if ur taking any supplements like evening primrose oil which will make your hormones fluctuate. Best time to check it is in the morning because the HcG levels are high.\nFor abortion, they will usually use Misoprostol. But its banned in Malaysia. Im not sure where else u can perform the operation unless its under the radar la. It also has its side effects but not significant until you cry for help. Just normal stomachaches and bleeding from aboral and vaginal areas.\nAnd please please dont ever buy pills online. I cannot stress this enough for my patients. I have some patients coming to the pharmacy giving me a plastic bag of white pills claiming that it can cure diabetes etc etc, ended up the patient had swelling of lips and severe allergic reaction. We had to call ambulance and it went downhill from there. I plead u to never ever buy pills online (but for ur case it will not be possible as you cant find misoprostol anywhere except away from public’s eyes). There are multiple ways to check if ur pills are “legit” and authorized by the Malaysian government but this is out of the topic\nSource : Im a pharmacist" ], [ "Consider going to the clinic for an ultrasound. Ik you're scared but it's better than risking your life. I hope everything goes well for you dear 🫶🏻" ], [ "By the time you miss a period, the pregnancy tests would be reliable. It would be weird if you’re about to miss your second period and still get a negative pregnancy test if you’re pregnant." ], [ "Hi! I’m a registered nurse in the US….if your cycle has been late for an entire month, a pregnancy test would almost certainly show up positive. It’s less likely to catch the hormone level if you’re super early, so before your missed period or in the first few days after the first day you missed it. However, if you’re that late, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to see a doctor anyway, as there could be many reasons for a missed period.", "Oh my, this actually really really helps to ease my worry. But yes, I will make sure to see a doctor, for my own mental peace. Thank you." ], [ "Semoga tuhan permudahkan urusan awak, stay strong" ], [ "https://www.reddit.com/r/Bolehland/s/4SjRwiEAmj" ], [ "I’ve actually encountered a lot of patients (and colleagues) with similar concerns. Just get an ultrasound scan and a blood test called beta-HCG. If both of these tests come back negative, you have absolutely nothing to worry about." ], [ "I had a pregnancy scare as well as my period was late for close to 2 months. Turns out it was due to stress that my period came late and I guess being worried about a potential pregnancy made it worse ☠️ best thing you can do is go see a doctor to confirm it." ], [ "Hey girl, just go to a GP they can do a simple scan to see if you’re pregnant. No need to go all the way to see an O&G imo unless you really want reassurance from an expert." ], [ "My ex longest skip was 8 months and she kept mess with me that she's pregnant. She's always stressed out plus possibly some kidney problems. Took pregnancy test and all came out negative as well.\nBest wishes to OP, and a moment of silence for female's hormonals imbalance.", "Thank you, hopefully all is well for me too." ], [ "How old are you BTW? I've had many many missed periods none of them from pregnancy, your period gets affected by many many things, stress is a big one. Being stressed about potentially being pregnant doesn't help either.\nGet a proper scan if you are really worried at a doctor or obgyn.\nAlso, pregnancy tests can be wrong, yes, but if you've done repeated tests and it's all negative, it's highly unlikely they're all wrong. That kind of situation is highly unlikely.\nAlso", "Yes. Also weight… I believe that low body weight can mess with cycles.\nFind a good doctor to talk to.", "Hi there, I'm 21. I started a new job, been there for 2-3months now and yes have been stressed out a bit by it", "Okay then it's very probably stress.\nGood to know as well that pregnancy tests are not as accurate (or so ppl say) under two weeks since sex, because your pregnancy hormones are not high yet. After two weeks it's generally the more accurate point. So if you've taken multiple tests and at least one is more than two weeks since, and they're all negative, it's unlikely you need to worry about pregnancy.\nIf you want to be safe, ofc, as everyone has said the best way is to go to a doc for an ultrascan. If you're worried about doctors judging, at least in Klang valley, there's a bunch. The more urban, the more understanding they tend to be.\nIs this your first time with a skipped period or delayed? Do you have a trend of periods being late esp during exam season, assignment, etc? If yes then this is quite normal! You need to judge your periods, based on what is normal for you.\nIf it is a trend, and you can afford it, might as well get a proper check to know for sure what you are dealing with." ], [ "Stress, change of lifestyles, and change of diet also could cause the delay of the cycle. Happened to my wife in August this year. It was almost like Jesus going to be reborn again, either that or she be cheating on me. But yeah, she wasn’t preggy." ], [ "Pm'd" ], [ "My girlfriend also had a similar experience recently, she panicked that her period is late for a month and keep on wanting a reassurance from me (she keep asking whether my ya know what got inside her or no) . It was stressful for me also since i feel bad for her and the consequences that i have to deal with if she is really pregnant. Turns out apparently, it was an irregular period LOL. Thats my experience with it with my girlfriend so i hope that it is also the same for you 🥺" ], [ "It could also just be stress/hormones that’s delaying your period. Go for a checkup and if that’s the case, the doctor will give you some pills to induce your period.\nSource: went 8 months without getting my period ✌🏻 (yes the doctor nagged me kaw2 before giving me the meds)" ], [ "https://www.reddit.com/r/SingaporeRaw/comments/18nc3mr/ma_experience_in_singapore/" ], [ "Marry first then fuck", "Not all married couples also want to conceive a child :) Marriage shouldn't bound you to a responsibility of keeping a pregnancy", "If you have been sold this idea, then sadly you have been deceived.\nWe all have different personalities, and that includes what we like, or dislike, under the sheets. Getting to know your partners sexual interests is as important as getting to know what they are like with money, at conversations, how they cook, clean or take care of pets/kids.\nIf you marry someone without ever sleeping with them, you may be in for a very rude shock. If you are incompatible in the bedroom, then your life will be hell.\nMarry someone whom you love deeply and with whom you have shared everything … and I do mean everything.\nPS: it also means that most people you date should have at least some experience in the area.", "Get pregnant without marriage and then what?abortion?throw the baby in garbage like in the news?leave it in front of church? Masjid?come on man…", "1) use protection 99% effective 2) use birth control pills 99.9% effective 3) abortion (it’s a standard medical procedure)\nAll 3 are far superior options to a failed marriage" ], [ "Got my period messed up due to stress and shit.\nBut I got it back when my \"pillow\" is around. So me being dramatic be like:\n\"This is all your fault for not being around much. You should sleep next to me everyday!\"\n🤣" ], [ "just pray and it will go away xoxo" ], [ "Dont get the pill. Go to a clinic, they will test your blood for hcg levels. More accurate than urine." ], [ "a box of condoms are not so expensive you know" ], [ "Ppl will not get pregnant without intercourse… unless 🎭" ], [ "Do you have any good reasons to do abortions? If it's trying to avoid responsibility, I advise you think twice before doing that. With actions always comes consequences whether you believe it or not", "Realizing one is not capable of raising a baby and deciding on abortion is called taking responsibility. She can decide what she wants to do with her own body.", "Let ppl be.\nStay out of other ppl’s business.", "I am not mentally stable enough, nor do I think I am old enough to bear such a big responsibility. I understand the consequences and had precautions. I am just a scared young person, reaching out for possible help.\nI also believe other than the 2 personal reasons I provided, someone wanting abortion just because it's their preference to not conceive a child is a good enough reason. I hope it helps you to understand on why people seek help, and to help eliminate the concept of abortion=avoiding responsibility for you.", "Girl, you do you. I think your reasons are valid and fears are valid. I believe you had gone through some solid advice on how to seek help. You are brave and you're doing a good and responsible thing to understand you're not ready. It's more guts than any of us here.", "Choice is yours, I can only advise. Be prepared to bare any consequences", "I don’t see corrupt politicians suffering consequences", "An embryo does not have personhood and is entirely dependent on the decisions of the mother. She has the right to decide whether it continues or is terminated.", "Yeah the consequence is an unwanted baby isn't forced to be born into this messed up world", "You can downvote me. But instead of recommending a clinic, I think is wise to advise why decisions like these should be made with caution", "There is no caution. You dont want a kid, get an abortion. Its that simple. Its not even alive yet", "What possible consequence are you so worried about? People don't view human conception and abortion the same way as you.", "I think it is wiser to let someone that don't want to have a child get an abortion." ], [ "Just like others have suggested, get a clinic to check.\nand a word of advise, those abortion pill set will make you go through living hell, extreme bleeding, and might even affect your future health, so take it as a last resort. Cost around 600 MYR average" ], [ "OP, how old are you?", "hi, I am currently only 21. quite the panic at this age, i think..", "I think that based on the comments, you could be delayed but not pregnant. Do you have an OBGYN? Best to go and see get tested.\nThat being said, having sex has real consequences. Some of the best protection is still not 100%.\nThis is something to think about going forward....", "Unfortunately I do not have one, but for sure I will have one moving forward haha. I am planning to go have a check up by next week, as in monday onwards. And yes, I do understand the consequence that it has. I appreciate the reminder.", "Also what is your budget?", "OP where do you stay? I can recommend some good obgyn if I roughly know your area", "respectfully you sound like a cop 🤣", "Gg la, I was gonna recommend her my obgyn if she stays somewhere near me / has budget 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠" ], [ "Chill girl. If you've tested negative, it probably is. Just go to the clinic and check to be sure.\nIt may be stress or hormonal. If it's two of the above, then taking herbal tea like saffron or rose bud tea will help. It's not uncommon for girls to miss their period due to these reasons.\nAlso, to give yourself a peace of mind, always use protection next time. It will save you a lot of stress and worrying, especially if you're not ready to be a parent yet" ], [ "Malaysia abortion help is very less talked about but the website includes where to get help, price range, procedures and so forth. Hope this can help more ppl in the future!" ], [ "Looks like you've gotten the answers you need. Take care!" ], [ "Women's Aid Organization, Sisters in Islam can help." ], [ "You can order abortion pills from Women on Web" ] ]

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[ [ "The reason why majority Indians (Tamils) don't feel they're not represented in cabinet despite Gobind being there is because there's a schism between Tamils (south indians) and Punjabis (north indians). Vast majority of punjabis don't list their race as indians and would rather mark it down as \"lain-lain\". A lot of tamils see this as not wanting to be associated with us and maybe looking down on us. Not to mention the whole fair skin vs dark skin rhetoric and the perceived better treatment received by fair skinned folks.\nAlso doesn't help that PH/DAP diehard fanboys shout to high heavens about meritocracy then keep quiet when people like Lim Guan Eng's sister get cabinet position by virtue of family name.\nIndians can suck a dick apparently because meritocracy means no good Indian(Tamil) minister is available. Haih whatever la meritocracy or race quota as long the Indian poverty rate alongside the national rate is brought down I'll be satisfied. Unlike the two majorities, most of us can't afford to be racist. It's bad for business.", "", "And then everything goes back to racially based politic. Again.\nThe problem is with the politician and racially based voting pattern.", "Also doesn't help that PH/DAP diehard fanboys shout to high heavens about meritocracy then keep quiet when people like Lim Guan Eng's sister get cabinet position by virtue of family name.\nFully understand the nepotism criticism but it is not fair to say DAP supporters have been quiet on the meritocracy part when it comes to LGE's sister. In a recent interview with Ong Kian Meng, ex assistant to LGE when he was the finance minister, Ong openly invited viewers to draw conclusion themselves on her appointment when quizzed by the interviewer.\nDAP has been very generous in giving representation to the Indians, here i am including both tamils and Punjabi as very little non-indians are aware of the non-indian status of Punjabi in Malaysia. Sivakumar was made a minister even though he wasn't particularly high profile. The position is for him to lose, and he was rightfully dropped due to corruption scandal. His \"indian\" slot has been filled by another indian. Ram Karpal decided to resign to avoid the bad optics of brothers serving in the same cabinet, and Ram's slot has been filled by another Indian, this time Kula, even though his last stint as minister was widely perceived as unremarkable and he is the long term political enemy of future DAP SecGen, present deputy SecGen Nga Kor Ming.\nOng Kian Meng in the same interview has explained the complexity of cake division. Racial representation in one thing, gender representation is one thing, geographical representation is another factor, etc. LGE's sister actually ticks a lot of boxes - female, Penang, and of course LGE's sister.\nDAP was already underrepresented in the cabinet lineup. Asking DAP to achieve perfect balance of representation is nigh impossible. To DAP, they have already nearly pulled this off. Got females, got ethnic minorities, got borneo states representation. The real failure of DAP is their inability to put in a Malay representative, even just as deputy minister. Their few Malay politicians are just still too green yet." ], [ "Indian is race. Tamil is ethnicity (correct term is ethno-linguistic group). Chettiar, Paraiyar or Gounder can be considered as sub-ethnicity (it is also caste-specific).\nSorry if all of this is too complicated for non-Indians. Even the latest political drama about no Tamil representation is also a bit disappointing.", "Indian is a nationality. Pretty sure South Asian is the race.", "In Malaysian documents, Indian is a race.", "Yeah, that’s unfortunate. Even Chinese is not an ethnicity as well. It should be Han.", "I mean yes, Tamil, han whatsoever are ethnic groups, But most importantly ethnic subgroups that originate from India/China, so they just list you down as indian/Chinese for easier identification." ] ]

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[ [ "Why are some people so vile?", "Because akhir zaman" ], [ "They can afford to have a baby and drugs? This couple must be loaded", "Can’t afford bail though" ], [ "I don't think they intentionally gave their kid meth. Most likely is nursing mother smoked then drug in system then susu the kid. I might be wrong though cos ppl nowadays are f up. And I do think ppl like them need to get their pp cut off (male) and ovaries removed (female)...." ], [ "What punishment to you think fits the crime committed here by the parents?", "Sterilization.", "Death" ], [ "Tak faham, kenapa nak bagi dadah kat baby? Mende dahla mahal." ], [ "Apa Salah parents?" ] ]

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[ [ "How about mosquitoes at this beautiful place 🦟? dengue is a great punishment for Malaysian 💀😄", "This place is actually quite pests-free because of all the frogs. Unfortunately, these frogs mean a lot of loud noises at night..", "It means that they're on duty" ], [ "I think this can be made into a postcard for tourists." ], [ "It's the Circle of Life!", "True 👍 🤣" ], [ "Is this place expensive to stay a night in?" ], [ "Sell it to a travel website" ], [ "Beautiful" ] ]

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[ [ "They have been saying this forever, in the end nothing done because some bastard DBKL officer is on the take" ] ]

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[ [ "snowflakes..." ], [ "what" ], [ "meh, shouldve ignored those people. They're not gonna be the ones who watch and support these drama shows anyway, they're stuck with the typical \"drama kol 7\" at TV3 and \"Ombak RIndu\"." ], [ "OH NO?! THEY KISSED?!!!!! How abhorrent!" ], [ "What the fuck?\nBitch please you are here because your dad inserted his dick into your mum\nFucking snowflakes" ], [ "Sounds like viral bait marketing" ], [ "Haram...the Is la M people never kiss or touch or interact with the opposite sex. Semua suci suci tapi otak haram." ], [ "Stay in your gua tempurung je lah" ], [ "they should apologize for the abomination of this adaptation instead" ], [ "", "As per Rule 1, well-reasoned debate and criticism of religion is very welcome but one-liner talking points, jabs, borderline flaming etc. does not have such protection, and is bad for the community. Please treat this as a warning - if this continues we will be forced to take steps." ], [ "So stupid.." ], [ "Korean series? Are they malays or koreans?", "So Korean can kiss. Malaysia cannot?", "F**k the kissing part. wtf with the titles, is it a malay or korea series?", "Malays … it is based on the adaptation of the Korean version dated back in 2016 … so basically they just recreated the scene into Malay series\n<image>", "So we couldn't came out with any original ideas of our own" ], [ "HARAM" ], [ "Tisu." ], [ "For a show called W, Malaysia really did a big L" ] ]

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[ [ "I think we would face a constitutional crisis. Knowing mahathir, he will still do it, even if it means going against the royals.", "maderfaker got the energy of a 20 year old i swear. Wonddering what kind of ginseng root hes drinking..", "The blood of children" ], [ "30 days can make huge difference. Enough time to trigger an Emergency Act through inciting riots." ], [ "Ternoktah? Noted? Someone please translate", "Finalised.", "So he's taunting them that time isn't on their side so to speak?", "No lah. Come to a full stop. That’s my interpretation" ] ]

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[ [ "thank you, Captain Obvious. such great journalism", "It also reports on the initiatives taken by PLUS to ease traffic for these few days. At least read it before dissing it lah... it's not just saying \"holiday, traffic jam\".", "You expect him to read?", "then the title of the piece should be written as:\nPLUS Vows to Ease School Holiday Traffic\nHolidaygoers Advised to Take Heed of PLUS Initiatives\nEfforts Tripled by PLUS to Ease School Holiday Traffic\nSchool Holiday Traffic Opportunity for PLUS to Innovate Solutions\nTraffic Woes a Thing of the Past for PLUS with New Initiatives", "These titles are unironically more click-worthy than the actual title." ] ]

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[ [ "There is special plate and the price is slightly expensive than standard plate, sometimes it is for an event or NGO or special occasion. Sometimes our university also has special plate for their alumni member.", "Slightly is an understatement lol" ], [ "commemorative vanity plates, usually more expensive than the normal plate." ] ]

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[ [ "That is a very sad news to read today 😭" ], [ "it disappoints me to read some of yall's takes.\nsex ed isnt gonna make teens more horny. proper sex ed, and not just a seminar on why abstinence must be practiced, is very important.\na horny teen will always be horny, especially ones in a relationship.\ninstead of telling them \"dont do it because bad\", we should properly inform them of the risks, the options for contraceptives and healthcare resources that are relevant and not scaring them with the \"contraceptives are not guaranteed so its better to not do it\". thats incredibly unhelpful.\nyou either admit that you want everyone to practice your belief or you admit that malaysia is actually properly multicultural and multi-belief." ], [ "We need sex education in school." ], [ "Who's to say that the girl had the baby from concensual or non consensual sex? Either way, best not to pass judgement from so little info. This is a sad news indeed.", "consensual or not, doesnt give you the right to kill another person", "perhaps if abortion and sex education was widely available in malaysia baby dumping wouldn’t be this often", "abortion would be murder my friend", "If the fetus is not viable, then it's not. It's subservient to the wishes of the mother, and does not have the rights of a person.", "Is a 2 year old viable and if so, is the mother able to kill it as her wishes", "Yes, a 2 year old is viable.\nA 2 month old fetus in a mother's stomach is not.\nSo early abortion is the best choice.", "not sure what the definition of \"viablity\" we are using here, but either way 3 month old inside or , 3 year old outside would still be not okay to murder the child, because the child is using your resources.", "Not really. A baby outside the body is an individual that can be taken care of by anyone. A fetus relies exclusively on the mother, almost as if it's a body part. If a person opts to remove their own body part, it is a terrible thing, but it is still their choice and they should not be punished for that. Sometimes, amputations are necessary.", "yes but the baby outside, if the baby is currently under someones care, if that someone just say fuck it let it starve and die it would be negligence man slaughter.\nalmost as if its a body part..., except its not, its a baby/human/ seperate being. And the childs fundemental right to life isnt really anyone elses. Really bad argument.", "Cool mate ...dont need to try to shove your beliefs onto others.", "Have you brought any substance or any interesting thing to say on any discussion ever. If you're 100% set on murdering babies then go ahead bud. Sorry for saying killing babies is bad.", "even when the mother might die due to having complications during child birth?\neven when the mother is a 13 year old who was violated?\na 13 year old girl undergoing childbirth is way too stressful, you really want to let her go through that rather than an abortion?", "Mentioned in another comment, pregnancy complications aside( as in prob ok to save the mother)\nNext will be a \"stressful\" childbirth doesnt give the right to end anothers life.\nJust because ur stressed doesnt mean u can murder", "stressful here is referring to how much childbirth strains the body and not referring to the girl being mildly or even moderately mentally strained.\na 13 year old girl should never be subjected to the strain of childbirth.", "Ok so at what point of this arbitrary stress of childbirth we decide, X amount of stress on the body we determine it is moral to murder the child, Y amount of stress on the body is not enough to murder the child. And stress and birth complications are two things, later would be ok", "im guessing that since you think that women who undergo childbirth are fine after, you also think that a 13 year old girl would have the same outcome.\nissue here is that a 13 year old girl is still undergoing puberty. being able to be pregnant isn't the end of the women's puberty, its just a portion of it.\npostpartum depression and postpartum ptsd are very real conditions caused by someone undergoing childbirth, and is seen in adult women. imagine a child that hasn't even grown up completely yet, was violated and forced to carry her assaulter's mark, only to go through that ordeal that would completely fuck up her mind while straining her body. is abortion still murder at that point? you really would rather ruin the lives of 2 individuals? a mother that isn't and shouldn't even be old enough to be one and a child that no one wants?\nat what arbitrary point is it teasing, bullying or targeted harassment? at what arbitrary point is it asking your kid to do chores or child slavery.\nto even want to quantise \"stress\" is lacking in critical thinking and completely ignores the situation at hand.\nobviously an irresponsible adult getting abortions every month is morally reprehensible and unhealthy, so obviously a limit must be placed on this person.\nthing is, cases like ^ are outliers. a majority of abortions were taken due to rape cases, complications and accidents.\nso accidents too?\nlets paint a situation: a couple of horny 16-17 year olds decided to have unsafe sex due to lack of sexual education.\nis it seriously that much better for society to go: \"well, you fucked up now you get to go through 9 months of pregnancy while still in school, good luck!\" ?\ndo you seriously think its better to let the child be birthed and sent off to an orphanage while the mother has to go through that pregnancy during school?\nis it better to think of the welfare of a yet to be established individual compared to one thats already been established? are you seriously gonna ruin a teen's social life just because of a dumb mistake that no one told them about? you realise that this would in turn ruin the child's life too?\nnext scenario: a grown 24-28 year old couple living together due to financial issues needing them to share rent, decided to have a fun night only to be met with faulty contraception. the \"sometimes it dont work\" scenario.\nsure, they are capable of going through this pregnancy. its not taboo, they are an established couple with blessings from their families.\nbut what if they are in a serious financial issue. both parents desperately want the child yet unable to support them whatsoever.\nwealth is the biggest indicator of life expectancy. is it really better to have the child, raise them up in a financial struggle. would it really be wise to have parents who are suffering from the stress of finances to have children?\ns/n: an orphanage is a horrible idea. the parents would feel absolutely guilty for not being able to take care of the child while the child would resent their biological parents for abandoning them.\nthese cases, the government should be the one to step in and aid. but thats my idealistic welfare system, in our current world, it really is better to abort them rather than have them live in this capitalistic hellhole where money means everything.\nyou can see how a lot of my arguments focuses more on the established individuals rather than the one that isn't even one to begin with and this should be the norm. the hypothetical individual shouldn't be higher in priority than the established ones.\nlook, i get it. a life is worth living and all that. but there must be some critical thinking here.\na child with a shit family due to shit circumstances would wish ill of the world.\na child is such a huge responsibility and its seriously so fucking irresponsible to let them live knowing that you absolutely cannot support them whatsoever. we have the treatments, the education and the tools necessary to make more responsible, more educated and more prepared and generally better parents and yet the pro-life mindset acts like we live in the 1400s where only a small percent of children make it to adulthood.\ni beg of you to rethink the values of pro-life.", "at what arbitrary point is it teasing, bullying or targeted harassment? at what arbitrary point is it asking your kid to do chores or child slavery.\nto even want to quantise \"stress\" is lacking in critical thinking and completely ignores the situation at hand.\nnot sure why u would ask me, when my position doesnt include any abitrary points, yours does. well mine kinda does its up to 20 weeks, where consciousness probably begins.\nto quantifise stress is to determine the morality of your position where stress (non life threatening) and depression allows for murder, is no depression but stress okay?, is average stress of average pregnancy with slight depression okay?\ninfact the depression isnt even here yet, youre killing the baby based on something that hasnt even happened. omfg why do people use this argument, like im gona kill that guy because i think he will be a school shooter in the future, hasnt happened yet tho. wtf", "to clarify, im pro choice up until 20 weeks, which is the consciousness argument.\nsince you think that women who undergo childbirth are fine after\ncan you quote me on this or are you making shit up?\ni understand that pregnnacy puts stress on the body, depression and etc, and my point is - at what point/amount or stress or amount of depression does it make it morally permissable to murder another human. ( life-threatening would be one, any others? guess the % of life-t abortions.)\nare you seriously gonna ruin a teen's social life just because of a dumb mistake that no one told them about?\ncareful, possibility of social life allows you to murder someone? i think you better edit that out\nnow, whos mistake was it the teen who made the choice consciously, or the innocent child whos about to be murdered, who should be punished\nan irresponsible adult getting abortions every month is morally reprehensible and unhealthy, so obviously a limit must be placed on this person.\nso alot of abortions is not okay, whats the line of when its okay to murder humans, 3 abortions is ok? 4 is ok? oh now u reached 5, 5 is not okay. you make 0 sense here.\nor how about the clear distinction murdering >0 humans is not okay.\n you really would rather ruin the lives of 2 individuals?\nyour opinion on if the lives would be ruined, doesnt allow you to take someones fundamental right to life.\ndo you seriously think its better to let the child be birthed and sent off to an orphanage while the mother has to go through that pregnancy during school?\n??? is the child birthed or mother still pregnant. what?\nget it. a life is worth living and all that. but there must be some critical thinking here. a child with a shit family due to shit circumstances would wish ill of the world\nnon critical thinking is thinking u can decide for the child if it lives or dies because u think he has shit circumstances. is it good for kids in africa let say, to think they should just die because of their circumstances are shit", "Bro thinks of stress as a mere emotion, and not a whole physiological response 😂", "Better abortion than leaving an infant to die a slow and painful death in a dumpster.", "false dilemma fallacy, are the only choices the baby sucked out of a tube and throwing it in the trash, or are there other alternatives lmao.", "From the post the baby is alive, judging by the wrapping of the towel and the notes, before the eventual death. Look, i dont like abortion either, its cruel and its evil. But a quick death is better than a slow and painful death.", "jesus christ u still dont get it, ok going to give you a small philosophy class here ok, google \"false dilemma fallacy\", It is the fallacy of presenting only two choices, outcomes, or sides to an argument as the only possibilities, when more are available.\nyou are suggesting there are only 2 choices, baby suck out of tube or kobe it in the trash. but in reality there are other more humane choices such as orphanage, welfare services and such, that doesnt involve murder.", "Ah yes, the more humane choices, orphanage and welfare services.", "More humane than baby dismembered and sucked out a tube or kobe in trash can? Id say so yea. You dont think so? Enlighten me bud", "Well the fucking fetus didn’t have any choice did it?", "does that make most men murderer,since they kept ejaculatin every week", "Abortion is legal here though.", "homosexuals are also illegal in msia, doesnt make it wrong. legality =/ = morality", "Morality is debatable. Some would argue for it's wrong completely and some would say it's okay if it's detriment to health of the mother.", "", "And how is that my problem? Why do you feel the need to tell it to me.", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat. While opinions of all kinds are welcome under our shared roof, reddiquette sets the expectation that everyone speaks to each other with basic civility and respect:\nDon’t: Conduct personal attacks on other commenters. Ad hominem and other distracting attacks do not add anything to the conversation.\nDon't: Insult others. Insults do not contribute to a rational discussion. Constructive Criticism, however, is appropriate and encouraged.\nDon’t: Be (intentionally) rude at all. By choosing not to be rude, you increase the overall civility of the community and make it better for all of us.\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks.", "LOL. Tell me you don’t do your own thinking without telling me you don’t do your own thinking.", "Ad hominem (it’s two words) would be calling you stupid. I’m simply pointing out that you are repeating sound bites instead of doing any critical thinking.\nIt’s not like there’s any point to trying to have an intellectual debate with someone who makes unsubstantiated claims like “abortion is murder.” Isn’t it funny that the only people who say these things, base them on modern day religious teaching? There are no secular philosophical reasons for making such a statement.\nI may have “atheist” in my name, but only one of us is following their beliefs blindly. The other is applying just a bit of critical thinking.", "Damn you got me on the spelling there congrats bud.\nWhy would you assume im religious, I'm actually an atheist if that may suprise you.\nI just think fetus after sometime becomes baby = becomes smol human, then abortion after period of time = murder human. Not hard concept to understand this argument.\nAgain all irrelevant to any argument im making. IF theyre unsubstantiated you are welcome to counter them, you can't because you have no idea what youre talking about.", "Wow an atheist that subscribes to theist beliefs. I’m not sure stupid really covers it.\nAnd at which week does a fetus become viable outside the womb? Because I’d agree that abortion after that week is no bueno. But that’s not what you said. You said abortion is murder. Even abortion before week N?\nQuick go Google the answer, because this is literally the first time you’ve had to think about it despite dOiNg AlL yOuR oWn ThInKiNg. I’m not saying your parents are ashamed of you. Just that they probably don’t know the dumb shit you say on the internet", "So am I open to other ideas or do I follow theist beliefts blindly, and what the fuck is theist beliefs lmao? so if theist beliefs is killing baby = murder, then atheist beliefts is killing baby = not murder?\nMy opinion is the no abortion after 20 weeks which is the consciousness argument, not viability to human argumen.\nand yes if the baby is outside of the womb considered fetal viable, it would still be negligence manslaughter for lack of care. You really are a stereotypical reddit atheist, glad ive met one its amazing.", "Yes, what she did wasn't right regarding the baby dumping. I agree. I wasn't talking about that though. There were comments talking about wearing condoms, implying that it was 100% intentional choice to have sex without condoms. It could be. It could also be not.", "It’s still possible to conceive even while using condoms or the pill. They are not 100% guaranteed to protect from pregnancy. Poor sex education to think otherwise.", "its still better than nothing.\nabstinence will never work. just telling teens who are raging on hormones \"no because i said so\" is never helpful in any circumstances. at least with proper sex ed, they can make an informed decision.\nbetter informed than not.", "People be thinking you can just dump babies and commit murder with the ‘it wasn’t consensual and now it’s not convenient’ excuse wtf bro", "Wtf is wrong with you? Imagine someone pins you down and violates your dignity, you have to go through the hardship of pregnancy, the body destroying act that is child birth, and after all that you aren't able to take care of the child and you had to make the clearly painful choice to let the child die. In all that desperation and suffering and pain, the thing that people online care about is that you abandoned the baby?\nYou clearly dont have the ability to have this happen to you and so you could never imagine it. Maybe if it happened to someone you knew then you'll finally learn empathy.", "Clear example of appeal to emotion fallacy, stating how bad rape is irrelevant to the argument. no one is undermining how bad rape is.\nLife threatening pregnancy complications aside, the inconvenience of raising a baby doesn't make it right for a mother to kill it. Imagine a mother just makes an arbitrary decision of oh I'm not able to take care of my 3 year old child, just going to make the \"painful choice\" to let it die because of inconvenience. That would be murder.\nAlso, even if unconsensual, you are punishing an innocent third party which is the child's fundemental right to life. Empathy is also empathizing to the child who was murdered.\nwe don't even know any context of if the mother consent or not, what suffering desperation and pain, how did you immediately jump to that conclusion", "Dude just stop. 😮‍💨\nI get that you want to say abortion equals murder. Instead of trying to push your tunnel vision to prove your relevancy, take a look from different perspectives. People are giving you examples of situations to challenge your view that this issue is not as simple as you make it out to be. There are various ways for this to happen, and not everyone shares the same beliefs and circumstances.\nYou won't solve a problem unless you understand it first, and the essence of ethical behaviors revolves around the study of how individuals and societies make decisions. Your principles of right and wrong won't matter to other people who don't share the same ethical values, especially to those with a different upbringing background.\nInsisting on a narrow perspective won't get us anywhere. It would be constructive for you to acknowledge the complexity of the issue first, then we can go to the next steps.", "Comment chain nuked and a 2-day ban imposed on both u/atheistdadinmy and u/3n20charc as a timeout for the long string of slapfighting comments.\nFurther comments in the same vein will result in a longer or a permaban.", "So what about after any baby is born, do you know how inconvenient it is to have to care for an infant.\nI guess by your logic we can go ahead and murder it but it’s okay since you can feel really bad about it.\nMurder is murder I don’t really care about empathy here, have empathy for the innocent child that was killed.\nPregnancy doesn’t have to ‘body destroying’ btw. Yes there can be complications but if we go by that thinking then no human will ever be born. Modern medicine helps smoothen things and rather than talk about the physical aspects (most women are incredibly resilient and they’re bodies will bounce back otherwise no one will have more than one kid) let’s talk about the emotional aspects of pregnancy. And how to best support pregnant mothers no matter what whilst they are going through this ‘painful’ process. Don’t treat them like victims women are strong. Maybe if society was less judgmental girls in this situation wouldn’t have to be so ashamed that they resort to murder.", "A life full of experiences, hopes, and dreams over a life that has just begun. Simple. And if we had easily available abortion care, it would be a life over a fetus. Even simpler.\nAnd you clearly don't know anything about pregnancy. Even with modern medicine, it still destroyes women's bodies. Women are just expected to deal with it in silence. Your body will never be the same after pregnancy.", "I don’t think you’re in any position to be lecturing anyone about pregnancy when you’re clearly okay with murdering an innocent child.\nIf pregnancy destroys a women’s body so much and it’s never the same after then why have kids?? If they’re dealing with it in silence they’ve married the wrong partner.", "I think you need to learn a thing or two then. Grow up and stop getting your info from Andrew Tate." ], [ "What happened to letak bayi depan rumah orang or rumah anak yatim?????????????? Poor the innocent children.", "Just know because the lack of papers the baby would become stateless.", "Better than dead?", "Worse", "Kalau bagi ke rumah anak yatim or baby hatch akan dapat kenegaraan lah, don’t worry" ], [ "It doesn't say whether the infant died before or after being left in the bin. That changes a lot.\nPlus we don't know why the mother was scared to be discovered. Maybe scared of some punishment by her family. There's no punishment for zina in Malaysia so that's not the issue. Her age and social situation might provide insight, it'll be very different if she's 12 or 22.\nMore info needed.", "No “legal” punishment but there are other punishments unfortunately", "Sadly you speak the truth." ], [ "Holy shit. The virtue signalling in the comments here is wild." ], [ "Maybe abortion should be cheap and hassle-free." ], [ "Ffs, if you don't want a kid first step is to use protection. They are fucking cheaper than child support. But having failed that, they then failed at being a decent human being by dumping their child in a dumpster. Why? If you want to abandon them, at least leave them at firestation or mosque or church, somewhere where people can find them and take care of them. Its not good, but its better than dumping them like trash. And they have the audacity to leave an apology note. Lady, its a bit late to ask for apology when you done something so heinous.", "I agree with the rest of ur comment, bc she could've put the baby in a orphanage or smth so that at least the baby will be able to live out there life...but it's not that simple as u said to just use protection... she may have been raped or been forced into un-protected sex. You know how pushy and fragile men's ego are when they're declined sex. More info is needed before hating, the mother could've been 13 or 23 or 33 :(", "What makes you think she has a choice to use protection or not ? You don’t know shit but you sure make up for that with talking shit", "Maybe she didn't have a choice in using protection or having sex, but it still does not make up for the fact she dumped her child in the bin and left them to die. Two wrongs dont make a right idiot.", "You also don’t know that" ], [ "With a note asking for help and forgiveness?\nThat's like some rando gutting someone who wasn't doing anything and then just placing a note saying sorry.\nUse protection people. Sex with out condom expecting to get a Flat Screen TV is it?", "She might not have had the choice of contraception." ], [ "What makes me really sad is thinking that perhaps the woman/girl who gave birth to the child might actually have tried to take care of it, but... infants can be really fragile. Something like jaundice or even just a simple flu might have killed the baby, especially if the mother was young and didn't know what to do. We already know that incestual rape is unfortunately fairly common in Malaysia; she might have been too scared to go to the hospital to give birth which is such a frightening and painful experience for fear of worse repercussions from someone who might be abusing her.\nShe could have simply disposed of the infant's body in any ulu place - let's be honest there's a million such places in Malaysia to bury/hide/dump such a small corpse - but she chose to place it somewhere she knew someone would definitely find it. Not to mention actually writing a note - to me it's clear she did care for her child, but for whatever reason couldn't care for it leading to this tragic end." ], [ "Condom is cheaper, remember that before y'all decide to fuck", "There's so little info regarding the post and yet yall are telling them to use protection when she could've been forced into unprotected sex or raped", "Celibacy is cheaper :29091::29091::29091:", "Celibacy is cheaper but temptations/being horny is way harder to resist." ], [ "Even the USA does not do this" ], [ "Cause of death? I hope it was painless or natural cot death. Would be even more heart breaking if the girl was strangled or drowned to death." ], [ "I'm just a prom night dumpster baby", "And I understood that reference" ] ]

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[ [ "I think you should discuss this with your doctor. Even to pass the case and discuss with another doctor, that will take time. By then, your travelling, appointment booking, treatment booking will take up your 9 days." ], [ "Pantai hospital, Gleneagels, Prince court, you can try these." ] ]

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[ [ "Where in Pangkor? I am from near there and never seen such a place or such a beach. Is this like some place only friends of Najib can go?", "There's a small island called Pangkor Laut beside the main island, and it's privately owned by a 5-star resort.", "wtf\nmalaysia's epstein island for the rich?\nwhy PAS silent about that?", "How can you be from nearby and never have heard of Pangkor Laut Resort? It's been around for AGES now.\nAnd no, it's not an Epstein island for the rich, they have special deals at discounted rates for Malaysian citizens who want to stay. It's not cheap, but anyone can save for a holiday and go.\nJesus Christ, dude. How does this even relate to PAS.", "Pangkor is not Pangkor Laut. Malaysians are not even allowed to kayak near to that private island.\nPAS screams about Penang and how Penang is not Malaysian. I'm pointing out they are silent about this private island.", "Politicians, kan.", "Inb4 the comment you're replying to manage to trigger a bunch of socmed influencers who've been to Pangkor Laut to be so butthurt, it started a new TikTok trend where ppl who've holidayed there b4 defends PL and we start a new discourse on it. Cos we srsly need to move on from the BM/Green Wave topic. Sien already." ], [ "Why would Michelle marry an old white dude." ] ]

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What the hell happened CIMB?", "At time of writing, the website is working fine for me. But!\nit's usually down around midnight. I assumed it's some sort of system maintenance\nyour credit card entries tend to \"disappear\" up until around 6am or so", "Its cuti so, some big brain probably turned off the server, and no one check because everyone balik kampung already?", "Weirdest thing to me is not a single coverage by any news/tech portal anywhere. Even CIMB themselves didn’t make a mention..", "yeah and still cannot login even today" ], [ "alor star, you guys are alright. next stop n9" ], [ "Do you have recommendations for skin specialist, except Dr Ting clinic in KL?\nI have horrible hormonal acne, and I’d like to be treated by skin specialist who can prescript Accutane." ], [ "", "i thought they will dispose them all?" ], [ "Is there any r-rated kuala lumpur reddit thread?", "Y'know, for a long time I feel that there ought to be a NSFW Malaysia sub, to create a safe space for people to talk about sex.\nBut I'm sure such a sub would soon devolve into people posting revenge porn, so...", "There are already Malay tudung 3gp subreddits, so ....", "i might be blind but i dont see any sources here", "Why would I link it and make Dosa kering here LOL", "chill jakim" ], [ "Any recommendation for a good brand water heater? The current one that we use is not hot enough" ], [ "Hey guys!\nI'm living in KL for the next 5 weeks (so far I love it) and the food is really great! Also, the people are so friendly and warm (just like the climate 😅).\nI am looking for high protein meals (chicken/beef) but aren't super high in calories. I live in Bukit Bintang. If you have any tips on either Grab Restaurants or restaurants in my vicinity please write them down here! 🙏\nThanks guys!", "Since you’re in Bukit Bintang I think you can get Shawarmas there. Just ask for extra chicken." ], [ "<image>\nMUST BUY!!!! You save exactly 0 cents", "put them in the chiller and you can sell it for about double the price" ], [ "Is Godzilla -1 not coming out here?", "usually 1/2 year wait for japanese movie" ], [ "A bit of a vent.\nDoes anyone here don't like to return home? For example now I'm living in college dorms and attending Uni, but everytime the holiday seasons come my mom wants me to go back home. I really don't feel like going back home for some reason it just feels tiring and unnecessary. I just want my peace and quiet but if I go home with my family it's a lot of blabbering and I really don't wanna talk to anyone. However I do feel obligated to go home and see my moms face to get berkat or whatever. Maybe I'm taking this family thing for granted?\nMy home life is not bad, it's quite normal actually. But I don't feel that sense of wanting to balik kampung...\nI feel like I'm one of the rare cases because most people I know always go balik kampung when there is cuti.\nConclusion: I'm probably burnt out af from studies and I don't really wanna interact with anyone...", "You really are a rare case. Back when I was in asrama/kolej most of the ones who stayed back couldn’t afford to go home. I did it a coupla times, and it was fun having the whole dang school/uni to yourself(and three other ppl), but home’s better overall.\nIf your parents are happy with just a call, sure, stay back. If not, I personally think the discontent will eat away at you, whether you realize it or not.", "yeah you are not alone and yes you are taking things for granted. its the least you can do for your mum.", "Nah it's okay, some people go through that stage, I've been there as well, nowadays I wish to see them more rather than feeling obligated doing so. Perhaps one day you will as well." ], [ "get invited to one of those task groups, usually i just block and move on, but i remembered not long ago someone here say they just took the money before they left, so i was like why not. completed a few small tasks and got rm15 transferred to me. LMAO.\nthe task came in groups of 3, you have to complete the set to get rm15 at the end. and the 2nd one ends with those \"transfer money to us and get cashback plus refund!\" i was like sure, this is probably where I called it quit. but then i ignored it and kept doing the free task, and to my surprise they transferred another 15 lmao... just gonna keep going until they get sick of me and kick me out. here i am sipping my free starbucks doing basically nothing.\nbefore some moral jackass comes and comments that they are basically just distributing victims money, hey, i am not the one scamming okay? take it to the four eye frog jackass doin nothing in the cabinet.", "LMAO indeed if they were transferring to you from any of their mule accounts they are controlling, did you realise to a certain extent that you are 'cuci'-ing their illegal proceeds?\nWell of course, unless PDRM bothers with tracking down every single money trail coming out from the mule account rather than only shutting down mule accounts arising from suspicious incoming transaction, I guess you can enjoy sipping your Starbuck for now.\nEdit: oops, just realise your last paragraph after commenting, moral or not, if the fund is tracked, it's criminal. Try using that excuse in your defence lol.", "Why don't you go and bust their operation genius? oh wait. you are just another keyboard warrior 🥱" ], [ "Anyone here into the local Pokemon TCG scene? I've started collecting card but I also kinda wanna build decks and play with other people too.", "There's a shop in damansara jaya which is your best bet. Cards and hobbies also can but the dj shop is the best afaik." ], [ "Was watching RLL video and then see this sus illlusion\n<image>\nI thought I just shared it here then ahahhahahahahaha" ], [ "Ridiculous, I've bought an item thru Lazada and somehow it's outsourced to Flash Express, and now it's stuck at Klang for some reason.\nTried calling Flash, no one angkat, so I've already called Lazada, they at least angkat and will look into the matter & push delivery.\nBut anyway, anyone here have the same Flash Express story?" ], [ "Is it me or too many Johor people are a bit too proud of them being from Johor?", "Mana ada. I’m from Johor and extremely humble. Some even say the humblest even.", "Yea but to be fair, male Malay Johoreans are hot tho", "Johor and Kelantan specifically.\nThey're not as intelligent and humble compared to us Penangites.", "I am johorean. Don't put as in the same basket as kelantanese.", "Oh please, you guys are just Kelantanese that speaks proper Malay 😂", "Way different. We are not extremist muslim like them. More progressive.", "Apa salah sambal kicap. It is the best for fried banana, tofu and tempe", "Found the johorian", "Half johor. The other half is Melaka so don’t half mess with me" ], [ "What would you bring to a sick father of a friend? A fruit basket?", "in hospital? powerbank and kain pelikat if malay", "That's a nice gesture. Should be okay. Can ask your friend if the dad has any fruits preference too" ], [ "Yeah yeah. It's comic fiesta day isnt it. Go have some fucking fun.\nImagine being on a holiday and you see others have some fun but you can't do anything and stuck at home.\nThe funniest thing I've ever heard from this friday is imam said spend our good times on holidays with family with activities. I BARELY have an activity here.\nLook at people doing activities, I hate them for having fun. I wanna go to WORK. I wanna have mountain of paperwork slammed on my table and get told to finish it in 2 hours.\nI wanna get called in by boss and get berated. I wanna punch a fax machine. That kind of work.", "You don't want to go to Comic Fiesta because you hate them for having fun.\nI can't go to CF because good god, the line last year was atrociously long, and I have to go back in the same line that morning after one short toilet break outside the con?! I'm not risking this year til they have sort everything out in '24.\nI'm staying back just to have a quiet weekend with some games I just bought on Steam during the winter sale.", "The lime wasn't too bad for me. Like 8 onwards I've been seeing posts of doom and gloom but when I reached there around 11 I was able to walk right in.", "What about lunch breaks?\nDo you have to go through same line again after eating outside the con?", "if i want the merch ill contact their social and ask if they can do postage. most of them does", "Thanks, but I'm not a merch guy. Only reason I go there is to find out any studios or art schools that provide either jobs or animation courses, as well as meeting with some talents setting up booth there.", "Line is just as long as last year, to the point I think CF should look into renting some high tech entrance technology to make the entry more bearable.\nPlus, no tickets selling on the spot is a bit of a downer for me who originally couldn't care less about this year's CF, as one of my favourite HK comic artists announced that they're gonna be at CF just four days before the event. (Not that it matters much, as I didn't care too much about not being able to get into CF anyway. Plus, just learned one of my relatives passed away recently and I'll be paying my respects tomorrow.)", "Thanks for replying!!\nHow about going out for toilet breaks? The toilets in the cons last year were just ridiculously small & crowded so I had to out elsewhere. When I tried getting getting in through one of the exit, volunteer told me to go the same long line as I was in been that morning, even with a ticket visibly on my wrist. I gave up, at least went to the artist alley, then cabut to have lunch. Half a day wasted.\nSorry for long rant, but do you have the same issue with going outside for lunch or toilet and getting in this year?", "Unfortunately, like I said, I can't even get a ticket at Kinokuniya today (hence merely my opinion on the long line), so sorry pal, you gonna have to ask someone else of their impressions this year.\nBut that said, based on the same long line today (the crew is lucky that there's no rain during the initial 2 hours of the event opening) 50/50 it might be the same issues this time around.", "What's stopping you? 👁️👄👁️", "Being in Kuantan + not like we have any plans on holiday anyway + self imposed \"curfew\"", "What, no jobs in Kuantan? 👁️👄👁️" ], [ "On the KTM now. Sorry but have to ask why the windows are all cracked? Otherwise the infrastructure in KL is exceptional.", "As those KTM train have routes that go through kampung school, it's possible there are kids who throw rocks at the ktm for fun.\nNot really hazardous tho cause the panel is more than one layer, only the outer layer is cracked.\nStill not a great look through, and its something that the KTMB could've done better with. It's been there for a very long time, and KTMB has no interest in fixing them.", "why fix when the next time them kids feel bored it gets broken again. should go after the perpetrators or their parents first." ], [ "How strict are Malaysian drink driving laws compared to other countries?" ], [ "I don't want to be those annoying neighbour who prohibit student rental; but damn they are testing my patience. Hard to sleep when they are still making noises at 2-3 am, also they love to rev their motorcycle to high heaven even when they are just idling." ], [ "Oi Chow Kon Yeow it was meant to be a 24 hours disruption, 19th December 4pm until now. You're about 3 days off.\nAt least I could have bought more if it wasn't for your wrongful estimation, I drink 15 litres of water a day leh brother." ], [ "P driver here, just now when parking i accidentally hit front of car into a curb when parking, made a god awful fucking crash noise that made me think my whole bumper was destroyed. When I check, my car was...fine? Looked fine, tyres looked fine too, should i be worried?\nEdit: Just remembered, just now also got one uncle next to me outside his car and I don't think he really noticed there was any loud noise? After I stopped I saw him and he looked pretty unbothered lol. Ahhhhh but as a P driver I'm pretty anxious because why tf does hitting a curb at parking speed cause such a loud crash noise😭", "bumper is somewhat flexible, it'll bounce back to original shape if it's not too bad, check for scrapped paints if you're trying to find out where you hit", "oh, i think there was some scraped paint at the lower part of the bumper. this is so new to me haha", "The clip holding your bumper might snap though, aad that is unfixable unless you use those ugly DIY clip\nDon't worry though because bumper is not expensive part. You can replace whole thing without breaking your bank.", "Probably it's just your underbody scraping the curb. The bumper is fibreglass anyways - you might have \"dented\" it while scraping the curb but it flexed back to its original form.\nNo worries if everything looks fine.", "honestly i had no idea it could flex back into its shape. I've always assumed it couldn't since i do see some neighbours with a fucked up bumper", "It all depends on how hard the bumper took a hit, the angle etc. Try and gently press against it the next time you're at your car - it's quite flexible especially near the edges", "Is the car bumper rubber?\nProbably nothing happened except for screws", "uh, I don't think so. It's an old 2010 proton saga." ], [ "So angry. So so angry.\nNo, I won't run into traffic. I will stay alive to vote for the worst candidates possible.\nY'all deserve this.\nWolololololo~" ], [ "are selangor smart bus, grab & maxim active today?" ] ]

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[ [ "Better this outcome than living a life full of lies.\nAlso\ninstead suggested that I seek traditional treatment.\nYes let's treat a stage four breast cancer the traditional way. What could possibly go wrong? Wife did the right thing. Hopefully she will spend the rest of her life with the people who care about her.", "Yes let's treat a stage four breast cancer the traditional way. What could possibly go wrong?\nNot directly related to this, but I have a friend whom is \"against\" western treatment of cancer, because from his own anecdotal experience of his father that the treatment made his father worse. I want to say to people that yes chemo is rough and TV/Movies seem to always remind us of that too..\nHowever it is also often only showing the worse parts (Because tv)\nhttps://www.cedars-sinai.org/blog/10-tips-to-survive-chemotherapy.html\nPeople only focus on the bad outcomes of chemo and never consider the fact that there are also many people that get through it and come out better.\nOne of my aunt, she had frequent blood in her bowels and went to a \"traditional doctor\" who kept saying she had \"heat poison\" and kept giving her pointless shaman medicine. (yeah that's what I call TCM) . As it got worse, finally went to a proper doctor and was found that she had colon cancer. By then it was too late to do anything.\nSo yeah people you want to go for your traditional cures that's fine.. if it helps even as a placebo to make you feel better go for it.. but please please please get it checked by real doctors with the equipment and technology to do so. The guy feeling your pulse is not going to to be able to diagnose cancer.", "I’m from a cantonese family, I can assure you that cantonese have a mindset that everything is caused by “heat poison” (热气） and our favourite thing is herbal tea (凉茶, literal translation is something like cool tea). Guess why? Because the “cool tea” can neutralise the “heat poison”\nOh, you’re coughing? Must be because you shower too late when it’s cold. Oh and also, don’t eat so much fried food because it’s “hot” food and you shouldn’t eat that when you’re coughing because apparently the cough is caused by both heat and cold at the same time.\nOh, you’re sneezing? Don’t go to warm places and suddenly to aircon place, this sudden hot and cold makes you sneeze. No shit, I sneeze because of dust particles and whatnot, not because of sudden hot and cold.\n“Chiropractic and acupuncture are not pseudoscience, they’re real! If they’re fake, those chiropractors and acupuncturists would have closed down long ago, but they’re still open and making money now, so it’s proof that they’re real!”", "Err, it's fine if you don't trust traditional remedies, but at least do some reading and check on the science behind some of it.\nSpicy food can trigger coughs, due to the spice irritants.\nSneezing and runny nose can occur when changing temperature zones, and no, it's not due to dust.", "When did I said spicy food? I said fried foods, because I am always told fried and deep fried food are “heat” or “hot” (hot here doesn’t mean spicy) in nature, 热气, which means if you eat too much you’ll get the “heat poison”\nAlso, sneezing is primarily due to irritation by foreign particles. But like you said, cold breeze can, emphasize on CAN, make you sneeze, but not the ONLY reason. Maybe I didn’t say it clearly, but often when I sneeze, my family member would ask, “Is it that cold here?” or something like that, but often time it might be just irritation in the nose.", "often time it might be just irritation in the nose.\nOr allergic reaction due to the sudden temperature change, but yes, that's what I was sort of saying. I just got the apparently impression that you were dismissing it outright.", "Sorry but there is no science behind a lot of Chinese remedies. The whole 'heaty/cooling' logic is completely arbitrary. We are talking about the food being heart.\nYes spicy food can trigger cough due to the capsaicin present. Capsaicin is literally an irritatant produced by the pepper plant to prevent it from being eaten. But we humans just like eating it. The chemical process is known and well studied. It has nothing to do with 'heaty-ness'\nSneezing an runny nose occurs during cold temperatures because the blood vessels in the nose dilate which causes more liquid to flow out. This is a physiological process to warm the air that we breathe. Nothing to do with Chinese medicine.\nPlease don't use well known scientific explanations to justify the use of traditional remedies. If alternative medicine works, it would just be called medicine.", "Sorry if I misled and triggered you. I was just responding to the apparent dismissal of the behavioral/lifestyle advice simply because it was given in the context of traditional advice.", "Lmao I'm from a chinese/Cantonese family and they always tell me the same thing!", "Everybody’s a freaking shaman XD .😆 I guess it’s stuff Cantonese deal with .", "Really!! I'm from the South Indian. We, too, have these kind of pratices like always saying you body has become hot 🔥 or extra heat, because you have been eating too much chicken or non vegetarian foods, staying under air con for longer time, fried food etc etc\nTo minimize the heat we need to intake more watery foods or fruits like tender coconut, yogurt etc etc these are good for body but the reason we need to intake is not for our body has become heat.", "My aunt got a limp on her breast , early stages doctor said might be cancer. Went x-ray. She went to Tung Shin Hospital, they use both eastern and western diagnosis method. Was given herbs, not grass type . There are 2 types of many said shaman medicine. One is herbs and is grassy types. Real tcm will use both depending on situation. Anyway her lump went from small to gone. My lower back pain, not from accident, also cured from tcm .\nTcm is very much depend on the doctor experience and the recipe. We must use both eastern and western because if it cures you, it's good medicine ,no need to label this as shaman and that as high tech. By the way, human survival was partly because of shamans existence. The herbs they use were studied seriously in today's high tech method.\nLastly , whether or not you got cured is depend also on luck , meeting the right doctor, getting the right medicine, meeting the right ' nobleman' in Chinese they called gui ren. Don't tell me there's no mishap in western doctors, there are many cases that shut down because they caused death and there's a law to protect doctors ( western I mean ) from this too. That tells you there's no guarantee to anything.\nI am criticizing, just sharing ,hope you don't get upset. Peace and love .🙏🙂❤️", "What life of lies? What did he expect when he got married?\nWomen (and men) are attractive till they are about 40. After that, skin gets wrinkled and soggy, sexual urge goes down. Some in modern day spend so much of time and money to look youthful, also spend on viagra, but all that is a sheer waste of human life over something that is running away from them.\nTo summarize my essay, when you get married to someone, make sure you're willing to clean their shit when they're old and disabled. Otherwise don't get married, period. Marrying because someone is attractive or good at sex will only cause misery down the road.", "I think the OP is saying that better to know what a shit bag this man is NOW then later.", "This guy gets it. Looks will fade, whether there's illness or not.\nIf you have a choice in the matter, then only stay in a relationship with someone you actually like. No, (just) liking their body/face doesn't count - those things can help to start a relationship (wow, I want to know that pretty gal/guy a little better), but if you and your partner don't actually like each other, then your relationship is doomed no matter how good looking the both of you are." ], [ "Man deserves hell" ], [ "", "lol no need say anything. Just Terengganu" ], [ "Men ☕", "r/Malaysia Sub Try Not To Shit On Islam For An Hour Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)!!", "Wahhh wahhh keep crying", "Not a Muslim thing .. it’s a man thing.\nThere’s a study done in the US, Women are 6 times more likely to end up separate/ divorced if they are diagnosed with cancer.\nIt’s so prevalent that hospitals made a brochure about it and give it to their female patients to prepare for this outcome.", "As per Rule 1, well-reasoned debate and criticism of religion is very welcome but one-liner talking points, jabs, borderline flaming etc. does not have such protection, and is bad for the community. Please treat this as a warning - if this continues we will be forced to take steps.", "Its okay to shit on a whole gender, half of the fucking earth but oh no not a religion 🙂👍🏻 really love the hypocrisy especially with the mods youre all so lovely", "Boobs and vagene" ], [ "I guess that answers the question, is he an ass man or a tits man", "Perfect, the man already proves he's got no balls\nC'mon, leaving your wife after cancer trauma? Also proves he's a giant D*CK", "I am smiling because some idiots here think you are serious with that.\nWell done, that was a great comment! You win the internet today!", "I wouldn’t go as far to say it was a great comment. Prolly 6/10 on the witty scale.", "I’d give myself a 6 too. But it was low effort, took 3 seconds to think up my response 🤪", "Ok for three seconds work, I upgrade to 8/10 then", "I am joking/not serious about 95.5% of the time on Reddit, since its... Reddit. Lol.", "You can’t really lose your ass now can you? Unless there’s butt cancer which I’ve never heard of.", "Anal cancer? Bone cancer?\nYou can get cancer anywhere on your body.\nhttps://metro.co.uk/2018/05/24/cancer-survivor-loses-bum-tumour-removal-cant-take-surgery-7574254/", "Cancer is just the overdrive of cells in your body, so technically anywhere can get cancer." ], [ "Lahanat punya bekas suami." ], [ "Hes a dick", "Doubtful, the wife is a she so he's a breast.\n:P" ], [ "This will not be allowed in civil law marriages but what’s the point being together when it’s obvious that the man doesn’t love the wife" ], [ "I accidentally read as loses to breast cancer. You can't divorce a deceased, screw this guy. Then I read it correctly, still, screw this guy." ], [ "Do you swear to love and hold this woman, until death does you part?\nYes I do*\n*Terms and conditions apply. See annex 1 for list.\n-What marriages should be like realistically. lol." ], [ "What an asshole. Hope the wife finds happiness and health" ], [ "What an asshole. I wouldn't leave a strong woman like her. I'd just marry another", "Bruh", "Two strong hearted wives preferably one with their boobs intact" ], [ "Typical...most boys up that 2 states only think of 2 things, sex and 72 virgin sex" ], [ "My man just want to motorboat" ], [ "Pantai timur, what do you expect? A lot of so called “moslem” but in fact are sexual predators, pedo, penunggang etc." ] ]

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[ [ "everywhere else you can show belly, shoulder, thigh, cleavage. you go temple, can't show shoulder, thigh, belly, cleavage. both Hindu or Buddhist. you go mosque, cover hair and long sarong, cover calves. national mosque prepare sarong for tourist. other mosques do not. small temples do not. but malls in Malaysia are really cold, so cardigans might be necessary if you are thin.", "seconding on the mall thing. i think some tourists might be taken off guard by the difference in the indoors and outdoors temp, seeing most of them like wearing shorts and revealing clothes (understandable, Malaysia's hot af a lot of the time). sweating in one instance, freezing the next.", "This is the most specific I've seen, thanks! Since you sound like an experienced local hsfghsfgh, can I ask if the Elephant Sanctuary in Kuala Gandah has a dress code? Or just what's best to wear in the area? We might be going there!", "Just wear comfy clothes, even if it's shorts cuz you might get wet if you decide to play with the elephants! There isn't a dress code there to my knowledge.", "Ahhh I'm so excited to see the elephants 😍 Thanks 💕", "This, follow this. Definitely this.", "I’m in hoodie and jeans in the mall! Good job I packed some from our New Zealand winters", "My god mate you brought some winter level clothes for our malls? Or did you accidentally stumble into i-City" ], [ "Unless you enter a government building then you should be fine.", "Oh yes I saw something about that when I searched on Google. I'll just stay away from gov offices then haha thanks!", "usually they just don't let you in. nothing serious." ], [ "Hi first and foremost welcome to Malaysia and hope you’ll have a pleasant stay.\nDon’t fret about outfits if you’re mainly in KL, as long as you’re not strutting around in booty shorts and a bikini top you’re ok.", "Looking at the tourist sites and knowing I can be comfy in my clothes, I'm sure I'll have fun 💕 Thank you!", "I've seen tourists in bikini tops and booty shorts in Bukit Bintang so honestly, our tourist girlie here will be fine dressing however she likes if she's right in the city centre.", "Bukit Bintang, maybe but with our current “nurse uniform is too sexy” climate it’s just better to be safe and avoid unnecessary encounters, especially for a teenage Filipina that may or may not look like a certain race." ], [ "You’ll be fine with sleeveless and shorts.\nBring some long pants or nicer stuff if you’re going somewhere fancy.", "Definitelyyy thanks!" ], [ "As long as you’re not walking around naked in public, you’re fine.", "That's the broadest rule I've seen haha noted with thanks!" ], [ "You can wear shorts but not short shorts 🙂 And T-Shirt and shorts would be a good combo because most youngsters are wearing them here anyways.", "I'm not quite sure what is considered short in Malaysia, but short to me is half your butt cheek is out and I definitely don't dress like that at 15 no hsfghsfghsfgh thanksss for the advice 💕", "hey OP, I'm malaysian and have been wearing short shorts for a long time. like just enough to cover my butt haha. a lot of malaysian younger girls do as well, so far I haven't encountered any issues, neither have my friends. you can also show belly, wear a sports bra as a top, etc with no worries in the city. unless you're a muslim malay, you most likely wont have any issues at all with your clothing. have a safe trip to KL!", "hahhaa oh no no. pls dont show the bootay i mean shorts as in regular lengths to bermuda lengths so no butts in sight. I mean i won’t lie there are girls wear daisy dukes here but if you wanna be respectful and still wear shorts because of the climate, then I would suggest so", "Yuppp being respectful is what I'm going on about 🙂 Noted with thankss" ], [ "Watch some recent YouTube videos of vloggers and observe what others are wearing in the background. That should get you a good idea on what is acceptable.\nSearch specifically for areas, cities, attractions that you intend to visit too.\nYou may find out Malaysia can be quite tolerant.", "Ohhh I didn't think of that! So far no one else did either hsfghsfghsfgh thanks that's super smart", "Yep. You will only need to pay more attention when entering religious places of worship, basic courtesy and respect in your dressing will be sufficient (regardless of religion)." ], [ "Just relax, and enjoy yourself. Locals who thinks you dress inappropriately are pretentious as hell. These are the worst perverts. Just ignore them and be vigilant. They ask folks to dress appropriate because they don't have self control", "Yeah someone told me about heaven residents 🙃 I'll do what I want then thankss 💕" ], [ "As long as you're not walking around in a bikini, it's fine tbh. The only thing you'd need to consider is bringing one long article of clothing like pants/a skirt if you plan on visiting places of worship/ museums/ government institutions." ], [ "You don't need to be paranoid about, as long as you're are not naked, or wear bikini in a shopping mall, you are absolutely fine.\nEven if you wish to visit those popular tourist mosque (eg: Masjid Jamek/National Mosque/Putrajaya Pink Mosque), they will provide robe for you to cover up.\nFor other places of worship like the Hindu temple of Batu Caves or Chinese temple, the dress code is even more relaxed or basically non existent. If there's rules on attire displayed on the entrance, then follow it; If no rules or notice was displayed on the entrance, then there's no dress code.\nOutside of places of worship, free to dress whatever you like. No one is stopping you.", "Ohhh thank you for telling me about the mosques! I was most worried about that 🥹 I'm not in Malaysia yet but I already love it haha", "The temple of Batu Caves do has a dress code to cover up your legs. They will sell/rent you a piece of cloth to cover up if you do not fit the standard (last time when I went the price is RM1). But I advice you to wear long trousers or jeans since the stairs are quite steep and there are monkeys everywhere, it's easier to move in pants." ], [ "You'll be fine. Most people in the cities don't care. Heaps of people wearing the same as the West. But you will see a lot of women in Hijabs too ofc.\nYou will not be allowed into a government building, church, mosque or temple ofc. So bring a long skirt and a cardigan. Can buy them here too." ], [ "If u actually asking then u will be fine\nEnjoy your time here !" ], [ "haha it’s funny how the world perceives us. i wear shorts almost everytime i go out, it’s no problem." ], [ "Every body just thinks we're some Islamic fundamentalist country. Wonder why", "Well I can't speak for other people, but what they teach us here in the Philippines about Malaysia is mostly Islam Islam Islam. Just wanted to be respectful of the religion, no malice or other intentions 🙂", "No I'm agreeing with you, that's what I'm saying. Unfortunately we are turning into an Islamic hell hole but some aspects remain untarnished for now.", "Hope for the better I guess, especially as a multi-cultural state" ], [ "Just don’t dress like an anal prostitute and you should be fine 😜 Best is always long leggings and long sleeves", "Erm ok 😭 Thanks", "U know what I mean right ?", "I guess yeah hahahaha" ], [ "Beware of religious people and perverts since we have not just Malaysians here in KL and everyone pretty much look alike.\nAs long as you don't over expose that hawt cleavage and butt cheek you will be good to have a pleasant trip here.", "Ahh the stares and the pervs 😖 Unavoidable most everywhere. Thanks for the heads up 🥹" ], [ "If urgent with hospital/police station, you don’t have to go back and change your attire. Record down if the SecUriTY wont let you go in. Anyway hope you don’t have go to this two places, just in case. Have fun!" ], [ "these days you can search 'kl walk' on youtube n see what people wear" ], [ "It's fine! Many Chinese girls including myself wear revealing clothes and no one really says anything about it. So it should be fine, just avoid going to government places as they usually don't allow revealing clothes like shorts or sleeveless shirts. As long as it's not a bikini or a stripper outfit no one really says much" ], [ "I guess many have given a covered detail of the outfit. Just be vigilant and be careful. We may have the nicest people around but there's always rotting idiots camouflaged as one of the nice ones" ], [ "KL is quite progressive, so you should be fine. In fact, you'll probably be shocked at how lax people's clothes are here. However, you should be more worried about perverts.\nAnd sorry if i sound racist, but its not the locals you should be worried about. My chinese friends tend to wear less revealing clothes in places with many immigrants (i.e. KLCC on public holidays) because they stare a lot", "Why wouldnt they stare if cloth like that Its a free viewing", "why should you stare? Legit no reason to, unless ur a horny loser" ], [ "Malaysia is a multiracial country although majority is Muslim. So don't worry too much about outfit, you can still wear your sleeveless and look around Kuala Lumpur.\nI'm from Kuala Lumpur too, so welcome!" ], [ "Considering you already have multiple answer by people saying wear whatever ( essentially ) Ill tell you what to wear to government buildings. Basically long sleeved shirt and long sleeved pants. Dont show belly and dont show cleavage. Basically what you'd think off if you say modest clothing. You dont have to wear a head scarf. This is a just in case you have to go to government buldings doe", "Also no tshirts, sweatpants, yoga pants. Basically professional clothing. It seems like you're 15 I think, if thats the case just let your parents handle the government stuff if you do have to go there. Why bother thinking bout it if 😵‍💫" ], [ "To be sure we need to see some pics. Just for research purposes" ], [ "", "Hello, this comment was removed due to being in breach of Rule 1: Bigotry and hate speech. Because of our history Malaysia talks about certain issues such as race very differently from Western countries. We acknowledge this on the subreddit but do draw some boundaries to keep discussions healthy.\nDefinition of bigotry: The act of treating the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.\nBasic principle: If it's an attribute of a person that is out of their control and extremely hard or impossible to change, it's not nice to dump on them or their group just for that attribute.\nSome categories this applies to: Race, religion, sexuality, disability, national origin.\nSlurs: Use of slurs on the above categories is not encouraged on this subreddit and may be subject to warnings and bans.\nExample: Religion: It's okay to discuss and criticise aspects of the religion itself, but it's not okay to attack people because they are members of that religion (e.g.: Islam but not Muslims).\nPlease treat this as an official warning - further such activity may result in a ban, thanks.", "Heaven residents? Hmm I've never heard that term before 😅 But yeah, that was something else I was concerned about. Maybe on paper it's fine, I won't get shooed away or whatever, but locals might feel otherwise 😩 Oh well, as you said, can't do anything about it", "Heaven residents = borderline extremist Muslims", "Ahhh well I guess they're unavoidable in a predominantly Muslim state. I'll do as I please as long as I won't get dress coded by law hsfghsfgh thanks 💕", "You can wear shorts but just telling you about heaven residents. Preach water drink wine. Ifykyk" ] ]

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[ [ "Ho ho ho", "Hoe hoe hoe" ], [ "In a way what he said is true. But the problem is before winning, so much talk gebang giving high hopes to the people.\nWhatever it is, lets just see if what he is doing plays out. If not, not only gebang but also failed his job." ], [ "He is still not fired is cos Anwar has him where he wants as sitting duck Economy Minister with limited role limited oversight while Anwar can marginalised him and sideline him out of important economy finance matters. That will reduce checkmate Rafizi influence as PKR Deputy President and stop his factjon from having any ideas of Rafizi taking over as PKR#1 😄 So Anwar is in no hurry to replace Rafizi cos the longer Rafizi says as Economy Minister, the further his political standing worsens", "naw. its so rafizi takes the heat on economy problem:26554:" ], [ "He's right because he's a clown, not Santa" ], [ "Talk the talk, now walk the talk lah, tulah cakap besar waktu pilihan raya dulu, kan dah panas🤣" ], [ "Pls shut up and do your work instead of big mouth all the Time?\nMake some policies to the public cmon..." ] ]

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[ [ "https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/releases/smithsonian-led-study-reveals-five-new-species-soft-furred-hedgehogs-southeast\nH. dorsalis hails from the mountains of Northern Borneo and features a conspicuous dark stripe that begins atop its head and bisects its back before fading around mid-body. It is about the same size as H. macarong.\nH. maxi is also on the larger end of the new species of soft-furred hedgehogs at 14 centimeters (5.5 inches). The species is found in mountainous regions on the Malay Peninsula and in Sumatra. H. peguensis is smaller, measuring 13 centimeters (5.1 inches), and is found in numerous countries in mainland Southeast Asia, especially Thailand, Laos and Myanmar. Its fur is a bit more yellow colored than that of the other new species, Hawkins said." ], [ "Perlu laju!", "Saya kena cari kesemua cincin" ], [ "Sonic Sang Landak", "Hedgehogs are not landaks. Landaks are porcupines and are in the order Rodentias. Hedgehogs are Erinaceidaes.\nThese guys are probably a type of Gymnures, aka moonrats. So, in our native tongue, they are most likely known as 'tikus ambang bulan'. But I'm not sure of their exact local name since these are in the group Hylomys.", "Good to know 👍", "While porcupine and hedgehog might not be in the same category, the naming however is similar. Hedgehog is still considered as \"landak\".\nHedgehog are called Landak Susu.\nLandak susu (hedgehog) adalah mamalia berduri dalam subkeluarga Erinaceinae dalam keluarga eulipotaiplan Erinaceidae.\nhttps://ms.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landak_susu", "Calling Landak susu or Landak kecil the same as landak is like saying jerung paus is also a paus. If the person I've replied to had said sonic si landak kecil, I've might had accepted his translation.\nHaving said that, the reason hedgehog is called a landak kecil in bm is because European hedgehog has spikes on its back like our porcupine.\nOn the other hand, our supposedly southeast Asian soft furred hedgehogs don't have that features. So, still calling it landak would be wrong.\nAnd We really shouldn't name animals from different biological order the same name. It's my pet peeve where in bm we use the same name for similarly same animals.\nBadak for example. Badak air is dan even type ungulate, which is closer to boars while Badak sumbu is an odd toed ungulate which is closer to a horse. They don't even look like the fucking same thing and we don't even have hippos here to call it as Badak.", "So, in our native tongue, they are most likely known as 'tikus ambang bulan'.\nIm not saying its similar, im just stating that we dont call hedgehog as moonrats (tikus ambang bulan).\nAll im saying is that in our language the \"term\" or \"name\" for both hedgehog and porcupine is landak, not that both are the same species, just the name that we call them.\nIf you want to be specific then,\nPorcupine = Landak Raya\nHedgehog = Landak Susu\nThere are many names in our language that doesnt actually means what it means, one example would be kerbau pendek, a term for pig.\nBack then there isnt any scientific classification, people just name things based on visual interpretation.\nTo be fair if i've seen a badak sumbu (rhino), and then travel away and saw a hippo, i too would just call the hippo as badak air.", "All types of landaks are porcupine, not just landak raya. Landak raya is malayan porcupine.\nHope that helps ☺️", "All types of animals with spike are called \"landak\".\nDefinisi : sj binatang yg kulitnya berduri\nhttps://prpm.dbp.gov.my/Cari1?keyword=landak&d=394756&\nI think you are confused between the actual species of the animal and the name given to them by the locals.\nIf elephant had spike, chances are we would be calling them \"landak bergading\" or \"landak berbelalai\".\nNot that it means elephant is porcupine, it just that in our language an animal with spike is call landak.\nSo, while all \"landak\" has spike, not all spiked animal are \"landak\".\nEdited to add,\nI must add i admire your passion for animals, when i was a kid one of my ambition is to became a veterinar, sadly life had other plans for me. But its good to see a fellow animal lover.", "Yikes\nSejenis =/= semua jenis", "I mean thats how we get badak air...\nBecause the term \"badak\" is used to refer to a big bodied (gempal) like animal. Even thought both rhino and hippo are not in the same species, both are called \"badak\".\nRhino has a horn (sumbu) so badak sumbu and hippo lives in water hence badak air.\nYou can yikes all you want, but it is what it is. And dont let go of your frustation on me, because i didnt named them that way.", "HIPPOBOT 9000 v 3.1 FOUND A HIPPO. 1,176,727,163 COMMENTS SEARCHED. 24,695 HIPPOS FOUND. YOUR COMMENT CONTAINS THE WORD HIPPO.", "HIPPOBOT 9000 v 3.1 FOUND A HIPPO. 1,173,270,011 COMMENTS SEARCHED. 24,600 HIPPOS FOUND. YOUR COMMENT CONTAINS THE WORD HIPPO." ], [ "Sanic" ], [ "I would kill for him" ], [ "Like how SpongeBob was discovered in Borneo in 2011" ] ]

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[ [ "The dumb part is, it doesn’t net off from the solar usage. For example I use 1600kWh but my solar produces 1200kWh. The mother fuckers will charge me the 1600kWh including the reduction of the subsidy and THEN only net off my solar production. Mother fucker", "Need to 'help' gov spent some budget mah." ], [ "so ev car sales killed just as it’s catching popularity?" ], [ "video set to private." ] ]

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[ [ "As a Malaysian living overseas and purchased a home in Malaysia\nHow significant is a credit profile or score when it comes to securing a mortgage in Malaysia?\nImportant - like any other country\nWould lenders accept my credit history or score from the UK?\nYes. I was requested my 3-months payslip and bank statement from abroad. Loan was approved within a few days from multiple bank. Everything was done in advance and by the time I flew back home I just visited the branch to sign off the paperwork.\nHow long of a credit history do lenders typically look for in loan applications?\nI can't answer that but looking at your payslip and bank statements they can make some judgement\nI don't know how much liquid you hold now but plan into opening a bank account with the bank you're planning to take the loan from; and start dumping money into an FD/savings account. That will make paying off your loan easier later on.", "Thanks for sharing your experience!\nOne question: Did you handle all the paperwork yourself or did you instruct a solicitor in Malaysia to help you sort out the loan application, etc.?", "I bought a house through one of the big developers and they had all the contacts. I worked with the sales agent intially and after I've gone through the paces he shared with me contact details for the bank agents (for loans) and the solicitors/legal team for SPA etc.\nI still had to fill some of the forms initially - but it was mostly personal details to get things going. I suggest if you're trying to do everything \"remotely\" at first try to be back in person to sign everything in a month - unfortunately they were not quite willing to post everything internationally (the actual SPA form etc) and part of it I think they had to legally be in person to view the forms being signed.\nI had plans to return for a while so that helped a lot." ], [ "The quickest advice I can give you is - find a way to get introduced to a premier banker in one major bank in Georgetown. If not, just call the branch, ask to speak to one. Explain everything you want to do. Your options. Your financial background. They will assist you, it sounds like you would be a high value customer. And they will give you all the answers and steps immediately.\nFor example, in your case you might need to park some cash as FD to first build up your history with the bank.\nSource: Myself when I came back from abroad. Although my contact was my mother’s banker but they helped me out with everything and explained everything I needed to do clearly.", "Thanks for the pointers! I plan on getting in touch with a couple of banks in the next few days. 🙌🏼" ], [ "I dare say, talk to a bank in UK that had a branch in Malaysia like Standard Chartered and ask them whether can they share your credit information to the their branch in Malaysia." ] ]

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[ [ "It’s old video during covid. People recycle this video as spoof since lebai pas won’t keep shut about replacing pmx today.", "Ah. so it's fake after all?", "It is a real video. That really happened during covid era when he asked for pre recorded statements instead of live.", "" ], [ "meanwhile anwar just chilling https://twitter.com/luxentX/status/1648231472296521734" ], [ "You this happened. I remember watching this last time." ], [ "from here https://www.reddit.com/r/Bolehland/s/FrXJpcQ5eP" ], [ "Yes" ], [ "10/10 legit" ], [ "It is the same tactic that used by crypto scammers streaming stolen and doctored contents of Elon Musk, Xi, Biden, with clickbait thumbnails.\nPAS resorted to run a scam ring...to deceive people." ], [ "If u had to ask, steer off the internet op\nU might get scammed easily" ], [ "The video itself is legit but the title is a spoof." ], [ "Penang Harian have Pahang coat of arms as logo?" ] ]

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[ [ "I FORGOT! this was recommended by u/amare47 in r/vexillology" ] ]

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[ [ "Never thought an IT vendor can go out of business in this digital age, but here we are" ], [ "They were one of our vendors at my workplace. The sudden news was quite shocking. Kesian the staff that have to deal with this during the holiday season somemore." ], [ "isn't this company notorious for working their employees to the bones? i remember reading their Glassdoor review and it was... not good to say the least.\ni remember reading that that company tends to bind their bonus payout to the employees continued service to the company (IIRC, it was 6 months where you could not resign unless you forfeit your bonus), and the company tend to force their employees to sign an ever expanding list of non-compete clauses preventing them for working for other companies after leaving that one.\nthe first and last time i went there for an interview at 8pm or 9pm ish (yes, you read that right, PM), there were still a lot of employees there working at that hour.", "Completely agree. Once upon a time i interviewed there at 7pm. I asked the interviewer why no one was going home cause it's after office hours. He said they are all waiting for company dinner. Like.... Why would they need to eat dinner in the company...wtf.. Run far far" ], [ "¿What happened?", "Here you lazy shit\n“inadequate handover of records and information by the previous management”", "That’s preliminary corporate speak. I will wait a bit more for truths to come out.", "🤷 doesnt change the truth" ], [ "Dengar nama pun dah red flag. Standard china men company." ], [ "Lowkey shocking cause I intern at Fusionex b4 during my diploma in 2020." ], [ "Went there for a Business Analyst role interview back in mid 2010s. Had a successfull interview with the VP but the second interview was kinda weird. The interviewer was very rude. I walked out, the HR called back. I said I have lost interest.\nOne week later, I got a job with a salary doubled the one i asked in Fusionex. Weeks later, I met some ex-staffs, and they shared that the environment in Fusinex is toxic.\nif you are reading this, dont give up if you got rejected in countless interviews, keep improving and dont stop trying." ] ]

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[ [ "\"Anwar was referring to an incident involving a preacher who reportedly misinterpreted Anwar’s statement regarding Surah Al-Kahfi of the Quran and the seven “Ashabul Kahfi” (men of the cave) that he mentioned during the Prime Minister’s Department monthly gathering last week.\"\nDear Anwar, perhaps you should have thought carefully before bringing religion into politics.", "PMX: I can do it, but you cannot." ], [ "Macam ni PMX have to tell once a week kut" ], [ "dude...u're the one that started it as well..well maybe not started it but part of it" ], [ "Dude, that's our jobs, what else we can do and pay the bills ? Our profession is based on decades of cultivation and empowerment of the government to spread hatreds. What else do we do if not stir shits up ?\nYour predecessors wrote and approve those cheques worth of billions, remember ? C'mon...don't be shy, my dude, our man. If you disagree, simply terminate those funding from the public/tax payers money." ] ]

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[ [ "If you're looking for help in getting someone admitted into a hospital for psychological related issues, the hospitals in Malaysia do have policies on involuntary admission for patients with mental disorders.\nI'd suggest making a direct call to the nearest hospital for specific advice.", "They said we needed a referral letter. We tried calling a mental hospital but no answer.", "Ah, it does seem like a referral letter (recommendation) from a qualified medical practitioner is needed if one is making an application for involuntary admission.\nDo you have any way of obtaining one?\nAlternatively, do you have the option of bringing your relative in question to a hospital? If you do, you could try bringing them to a hospital in person, and if you're bringing them to the emergency department, I'd assume the hospital can treat this as a normal emergency case and proceed accordingly (including assessing the need to have the patient admitted to the hospital).", "How about voluntary admission?\nWe called the main hospital in Sabah and they said they're just going to talk him down and send him home 💀", "Voluntary admission means that, if the patient is deemed to be required for admission, the patient himself can make the decision, and give consent, to be admitted to the hospital - i.e. the patient is an adult and in a mental state where he is suitable to make decision and give consent.\nDoesn't mean that he will certainly be admitted to the hospital, though. The recommendation and decision for admission is on the medical officer who assesses the patient, and the recommendation will only be made if the patient meets the conditions where hospitalisation is needed.\nAs far as I'm aware, the doctor can only make the decision to recommend hospitalisation after they have seen the patient in person. So it'd be quite surprising if the doctor is deciding to refuse admitting a patient before seeing the person. Again, not all psychiatric patients or mental health cases will end up being hospitalised. But the decision to admit or not will be after the doctor has seen the patient and made the necessary assessment.\nSo the best bet for you is to bring your relative to the hospital and get seen by a doctor in person (whether it is through the normal procedure or as an emergency). If you're not an immediate family member, you'll need to have one of the immediate family members with you when you're at the hospital - they'll be the person to give consent to the treatment.\nHope this helps!" ], [ "999 for any emergency. Need to describe how he self harm to call operator", "Yeah. My family had this case once. We called 999 and a police patrol came to assess the situation. They will then call the relevant parties to give aid while they try to diffuse the situation" ], [ "Hi. I am a Sabahan under treatment at Hospital Mesra Bukit Padang. Usually when I relapse (suicidal) I come straight to the \"klinik psikiatri\". This works if you go during the day (8 am - 5 pm). They will have you see a doctor and they will consult the patient and see if they need to be hospitalized. If all else fails, just go to a hospital and go straight to the emergency section of the hospital. They will have a psychiatrist evaluate their condition. I once overdosed on my medication and went to the ER." ] ]

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[ [ "Such a peaceful walk road, hopefully it doesn't suddenly crowded by all people to take funny pictures this weekend 😄", "Convention has started, millions must selfie" ], [ "Context?", "Tomorrow comic fiesta at klcc", "And the Christmas long weekend. It's gonna be hell lol", "oh boy oh boy, gonna wait for this year news of cf gone wrong." ], [ "Why OP in the bush?", "Asking the right questions here" ], [ "" ], [ "Good luck everyone and have fun! Please wear mask and be cautious. Rona is on the rise again and I hope everyone stay safe" ], [ "my cosplay this year lol" ], [ "i hope it wont start raining soon", "It's raining now XD", "yup.. ran indoors" ], [ "Be safe everyone" ], [ "Can't wait to see FWMC" ], [ "Welcome to Malaysia" ], [ "Someone asked me what the hell was going when I was trying to get into queue. Had to explain that there is a yearly convention." ], [ "I cant fkin feel my leg adter that que man.\nI give em tho its VERY organized and planned this year compare to what i heard last year" ], [ "I mean if u dont like many people then is ok la, just dont go there when many people\nDont say like \"all hell break loose\" lol\nbasic respect, u dont like the stuff that some other people like, dont need to call it hell and stuff", "Calm down, it's a common expression. It just means things become chaotic.", "It's a playful exaggeration by calling it 'All hell break loose'. OP could be attending the event anyways as non CF go-ers would probably not have known about what's happening tomorrow anyways.\nDon't sweat it" ], [ "I used to run here at least 5 rounds everyday" ] ]

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[ [ "Isn't the b40 getting benefit from buying lower cost goods from overseas?", "Strongly agree, before LVG we would only pay duty import if the oversea goods are valued above RM500.", "I don't buy online so I'm curious what B40 buy from overseas?\nClothes?", "not sure if sarcasm but yes, clothes can be much more cheaper overseas especially from china aliexpress/taobao/shein, cheaper than pasar malam, cheaper than used ones from bundle store, can customize size and design too. only downside is the longer delivery time" ], [ "Yet other nail into Pakatan's GE16 coffin.", "I am not the biggest PH fan, but I do have to support extra taxation. It was either this or give reason for unreasonable price hikes by reintroducing GST." ] ]

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[ [ "What is this WhatsApp group good morning photos?" ], [ ":29091:" ], [ "We have winter in Malaysia???" ] ]

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[ [ "How did it go from a light pole every few meters to nothing at all? Lmaoo", "Usual sight for rural population particularly those that borders forest area. Quite eerie isn't it? Especially when you have evening rain because all the water vapor will hang just above the road surface at night creating spooky ghost like apparition", "For added context (since I know that road even more than the back of my hand)...the stretch that has light poles besides it is actually a relatively newly rebuilt stretch of road, since the road was slightly diverted into a temporary alignment to the east of the road(hence there relatively wide cutting/clearance, while they are putting a bridge over the (also realigned) ELECTRIFIED DOUBLE RAIL tracks(the OP went through the aforementioned bridge at around 5 second from the start of the video)...so the light poles were installed as part of the rail electrification project, while previously, the whole road was dark (as usual with most rural state roads, especially those that has 3 digit numbers)with the exception around the junctions...\nTLDR: Thank god for KTM or the whole road is dark....check the Google street views along the roads that cross the KTM electrified tracks and you would see a few of these anomalies along those stretch rural roads....I don't know if the same would also apply to the roads also affected by expressway/dual carriageway construction..." ], [ "Err, isn't that technically the Hutan Percha-Gemencheh stretch (M131 Jalan Menggong) rather than the aforementioned Hutan Percha-Pulau Sebang-Alor Gajah (M10 Jalan Simpang Ampat)? Yeah, I think I saw someone doing 140 at that particular stretch....Considering you are turning left (while 95% of the road users usually turn right heading towards Segamat), I am presume you are a local (as in someone who is from the Mengggong-Hutan Percha or Keru area) is it?\nP/s: I myself is part of the 95% (going to and from Gemas) and next week I am using that road so thanks for the video since I am spotting a newly patchup pothole there at timestamp 2:00.", "Yeah, that one. I thought the end of the road was still in Hutan Percha. Also, I live in Johol, but I use the route to get to Melaka because of less traffic", "Huh, I wanted to comment that it would be better for you to turn right and heading toward Gemencheh in order to go to Johol from the junction rather than turning left and using the Ulu Yoh road,\nbut I forgot that Johol itself is rather spread out across a big area...and IIRC the Gemencheh-Johol stretch itself would be as dark as the road in the video above {and the relatively well lit route you pick meant that you will turning off the Kuala Pilah-Tampin main road just before the start of the most treacherously (and tiring especially if you are driving that Wira) bendy stretch that is Dangi-Senaling stretch}, so the route you have chosen is mostly good...\nP/s: The terminology of the road itself was confusing, not helped by the fact that MPAG (yes the local municipal council, not the state JKR) was at one point was the one that apparently maintained/signed the road as shown by the decrepit road name signs seemed to suggest.... It is technically still at Hutan Percha until the border, while the area at the N9 side is really not well defined since there really isn't a village (and thus Gemencheh, the name of the mukim for the area is used, with MPAG said name it Hutan Percha-Gemas road, even though while the plurality of the road user would used the road to at the very least stop would at Gemas, the junction is still at least 15km away from even the Gemas mukim border." ], [ "OP, for your safety, please use your r/kereta high beam to lit the whole road. Off high beam only when you see opposite car light.\nEdit: oh wait OP was using high beam. Why it’s not bright one", "That's literally high beam", "Yeah I was about to edit my comment. LOL I realised you used high beam but why the high beam macam not effective one", "Motorbike?", "A Wira, actually", "Maybe it's because of the camera but your high beam seems pretty low. How was it in real life?", "Exactly like this", "Is your right hand headlight functional? The beam seems to be heavy on the left hand side.", "Yeah, my mom thought the same too. I'm considering replacing the headlight after I repaint my car", "In most cases, you just need to replace the bulb. Depending on bulb type, it may cost under RM20 and can be done easily without service charge" ], [ "Bro please get a new set of headlights and adjust the beam properly. I cant even see the far side of the road with your high beam on. Its like aiming your flashlight at your feet while trekking through the forest.\nGet one of those Philips Vision Plus, probably around rm60 and you're good to go." ], [ "Bro post Fear to Fathom gameplay clip and think that we not gonna know smh xD" ], [ "ITS MIDNIGHT RACING TIME BEBE!" ], [ "Was waiting for a ghost to appear... So disappointed 😞", "Same. But I heard there are ghosts along this stretch" ], [ "I'd imagine the night sky view over there." ], [ "Yoru ni kakeru~" ] ]

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[ [ "While I can accept that the pace of inflation is lower today than it was a year ago, 1.5% Y-o-Y change is simply too low!\nFood prices have increased at least 10% across the board since a year ago. Groceries and personal care items have also increased in price.\nOn top of price increases, there is an increased prevalence of shrinkflation (e.g. Fab detergent powder from 2.1kg to 2.0kg to now 1.9kg, or deodorant spray cans from 150ml to 135ml), or skimpflation (e.g. food that has 3 medium sized prawns before, now have 2 smaller prawns).\nWhat's your take on the inflation rate around us?" ], [ "People read inflation rate falling but thinking \"wHy f0od pRicEs sTilL sO bLoOdY eXpEnsiVe?\" Because falling inflation does not mean deflation, it only means prices go up slower. From RM10 to RM10.10 as opposed to RM6 to RM10 previously. Of course la food still expensive, sebab your gaji still ciput." ], [ "The number is YoY, so the base is November 2022 when inflation was probably peaking. Compared to that time, price of chicken has fallen down while everything else has stabilised.\nNon essential goods have probably gone down in price, as reduced demand is forcing retailers to resort to discounts to attract customers and reduce their stocks which have been stockpiling.\n1.5pc is low but if taken on a 2Year basis, still reasonable I feel since we are coming from a high base. If the trend continues, Bank Negara can cut rates in the next session to bring the number back to to a reasonable level." ], [ "Not feeling it" ] ]

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[ [ "No mention of benefits to environment, equity, accessibility, jobs, etc. Very narrow-minded, one-dimensional assessment from this retired politician.\nAlso can our politicians stop suggesting ways to directly subsidize airlines lol.", "I think he's just trying to make a point that the interest value is high." ], [ "Same energy as why buy 1 iphone (use 5 years) when you can buy 10 cheap android phones (use 50 years)" ] ]

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[ [ "Their food sucked." ], [ "Where am I going to bring my very real not imagined amoi for dating now?", "Mookata.\nIts the in thing within amoi circle.", "My gf says ariga.. thank you. She says thank you.\n<image>" ], [ "Why?", "Debt spinning out of control?\nTowering costs of overhead?\nElevated risk of safety incident?\nIssue revolves around its business model?", "r/angryupvote", "Didn’t know you were a father of four", "How do you sleep at night, knowing you made this pun?", "I thought it’s another corruption case after the ilham tower.", "Based on FMT's news article: ownership of the KL Tower was sold from Telekom Malaysia to Hydroshoppe. Prior to the sale, TM supposedlly promised the restaurant that they will be granted a 3 year extension to thier lease (expiring 30 June 2023). However after the sale Hydroshoppe told the restaurant that the lease will not be extended, and that the restaurant must vacate by the end of the year. Restaurant proceeded to sued for the invalidation of the lease, whilst Hydroshoppe counter-sued for the restaurant to vacate the premises.", "No atmosphere." ] ]

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[ [ "Why you drew pemadam", "wdym by pemadam tho?", "Eraser, dont u guys used to play some eraser flipping games using erasers printed with either pokemon or state/country flag on top back to ur school days", "OHHH THOSE PEMADAM I rmb those", "Yess", "BRO! DON'T MAKE ME FEEL ANCIENT CAUSE I IMMEDIATELY UNDERSTOOD THE REFERENCE!", "haha" ], [ "The Kelantan one is *chef's kiss, a masterpiece.", "here’s a secret, i did an animation of transitioning Malaysian flags and i forgotten negeri sembilan …", "Your Penang is slightly penis.", "well idk\n<image>", "Yours is penisier than the original one." ], [ "Perlis Ukraine flag easiest to remember. Raja Atas Rakyat Bawah. Pahang confusing I forgot If Black atas or white atas.\nPerlis easiest. Ukraine but Upside down.", "Perlis trueee, Pahang also so truuu like I literally was drawing the flag map of Malaysia states I accidentally coloured the top of pahang black, I have learnt from mistakes", "Pahang putih atas hitam bawah, \"baik menang duduk atas jahat kalah duduk bawah\" that's how I childishly remember it" ], [ "The Penang tree has a nice cock", "why u gotta say it like that 💀😭", "😈😈😈\n<image>", "good eye" ], [ "Good job OP.. Now for WP", "wilayah persekutuan?" ], [ "if your interested for more come and vote in my profile\n<image>" ], [ "Panainye" ], [ "Aren’t Kedah, Perlis, Kelantan and Terengganu all green background and white circle in the middle.", "I think you thought about the Malaysian Islamic Party https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_Islamic_Party\nparticularly in the states of Kelantan, Terengganu, Perlis, & Kedah.", "You must be fun at party", "?", "Please stay conservative. I don’t want to get surprised they get smarter all of sudden. Keep them low." ], [ "<image>\npretty good memory sketch tbh, at least OP did better than official Ghee County's official prideful flag", "tbh liberian country flags are literal ms paint drawings", "literally me when commissioned to draw/graphic design by a cheapskate that want more but underpaid" ], [ "Where is KL.. and Putrajaya", "Next time i will do KL, putrajaya and labuan (p.s. they are federal territories thats why i didnt do them)", "<image>", "blud forgot about Labuan" ] ]

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[ [ "Bruh that's obviously a scam." ], [ "there you go dont be lazy to do some background research, and you dont have to physically be there to prove anything, we live in an internet era. IF ITS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE THEN IT IS.\n<image>", ":29091:" ], [ "Only retards deal over some where without buyer protection" ], [ "Scam. No need to elaborate, too obvious." ], [ "Can't really say but that's hella suspicious offer" ], [ "Scam.la, if it's too good to be true, it most likely is. Can also check the business address on Google.\nAnother method for buying second hand tech is ask them to take a video with the device + a unique instruction ( a watch or newspaper with the current date and time). Usually only legit sellers comply." ], [ "Scam bro, COD Without \"deposit booking\"" ], [ "too good to be true, it's a scam" ], [ "3050 for 950? Bro ain’t no way lol", "We can only buy the graphic card for that price, let alone a whole laptop lmao." ], [ "Dude, I'm not being racist whatsoever, plus I don't give a damn if anyone wants to call me that, but looking at the written \"dialect\" is already enough to know that it's a freaking scam...\nIf you think it's too good to be true, you're goddamn right it is...", "Yeah true, I aldy know it from the first photo. We can see the dialect not fully in Malay. 😂", "It's not the language, it's the dialect or the slang that gives me the scammers vibe..." ], [ "Report spam n leave, the end" ], [ "Who the hell in this world can sell higher price but want to sell cheaper, sell cheaper vs lelong is totally not relevant. Yea as you said too good to be true.\nPlease purchase from reputable platform such as Carousel that can see seller review and years of active in the platform.\nHonestly such questions totally no need to ask one. As you cant COD when such cheap price and you cant even believe then dont waste time.\nStay safe." ], [ "Broken English or broken Malay language is always a clear sign of scams." ], [ "No wonder people get scammed left right and centre." ], [ "If you still go through with this then it’s not even a scam anymore, it’s just being gullibly stupid" ], [ "The address corresponds to a Ar-Rahnu gold pawnshop, and the language these people use screams konoha to me.\nIn any case, confirm 100% scammer as the price is definitely too good to be true." ], [ "Rtx 3050 is kinda new card, no shit the newly second hand whole laptop priced RM950. 144hz brand new 5-7K, 4K will only get you 60hz brand new. The cpu too.\nKL got refurbish or second hand shops, go visit the one operated for many years.\nCOD + plugged in to verify all genuine hardware is a MUST.\nThis is a deal that you are looking to save 5-10% max, with 99% of chance of losing RM950. Nearby reputable physical shops are always your best friends." ], [ "Thats scam bro" ] ]

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[ [ "Don't question fadhlina, later she get mad and cry, then slam the table again.", "Really ? crybaby throw tantrum diva ? Didn’t know that. Any video or article on it? 🤣", "You never follow news? Solidarity week and Wee Ka Siong questioning her regarding the shortage of teachers in SJKC.\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9nMpKic4gs\nhttps://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/11/28/education-ministers-tone-surprised-me-says-dr-wee", "Haha yes was not following news. I just read she also cried when slammed after introducing Palestine Solidarity Week. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/11/02/education-minister-tears-up-while-defending-palestine-solidarity-week https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/11/01/fadhlina-grilled-over-guidelines Nonsense . Nothing better to do get young students involved in global politics, war conflicts" ], [ "I usually don’t agree with mosquito party MCA but I agree on this. Why is this very important Education Ministry given to this first time newbie clueless minister Fadhlina ? She is minister because politically she is PKR Women chief ? Ministers should be appointed because of ability not political position", "She got appointed because she's loyal to anwar, not because of her ability. The same reason why she didn't get shuffled out.", "What a world we live in.", "We don't do that here. We want loyal macais, not smart macais", "Loyal macais might get you this, smart macais might get you assmin, life never lets you win." ], [ "Maths & Science in BM completely unless you plan to do public U all the way. Even then, anyone with a brain cell will choose to use English.\nThen the Malays wonder why they can't compete with non Malays when its comes to job finding.", "From what I've heard, some of the top public u are using English for stem nowadays lol", "i thought most public U uses english wtf", "Don't have standardized policy. That's the problem.", "I remember one of my interns type his university assignments and report all in BM which surprised me alot. I was like no wonder he was struggling when we told him to type work reports in english.", "Yeap, once they come out to the real world, its no longer controlled by the government.", "Wait, BM isn’t just English with different spelling? :26554:" ], [ "whichever language that helps kids do better in the subjects, just use it lah. so sick of this issue!", "While I agree with that sentiment, it's a known fact STEM graduates without English fundamental skills simply can't compete in the international level. If they can learn to translate the terms later on, why not just let them learn the subject in English in the first place, less time wasting. We have little use for BM STEM here, if there is, they just slide in some English terms in their sentences anyway.\nSure you can say they can thrive here in Malaysia, see how much research funds government pour into this field. You could also say money isn't everything but money is a huge motivation, it can solve many problems, the researchers ain't going to feed themselves with dreams.\nYou really need to think far enough, education isn't as simple as you think. A change of syllabus can have long term effects." ], [ "how many u-turns they want to make on this?" ], [ "I agree, hence why Maths and Science should be in BM, but Arts, physical education, history, morals and religion should be taught in English.", "Origin of species pun kena banned in BM, yet want to make BM the language for maths and science teaching? Lol", "Yes.", "Lovely" ], [ "Pasal ape trolly and kuda ni?" ], [ "My maths & science was in Malay, we coped with it although we didn't prefer it. As humans we adapted" ] ]

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[ [ "What was the expectation lol we went on a crusade against Swatch for a rainbow color watches lmao :29091:", "", "The dilemma here is the clash of supposed identity of malaysia.\nPro lgbt thinks malaysia is secular.\nAnti lgbt thinks malaysia is islamic.\nAnd that does impact one's view on whether government should butt into this issue or not, as secular law doesn't forbade lgbt, while Islamic law does.\nProblem is the identity is not clearly stated in constitution.\nPersonally i gave up that fight once pmx announced that we are a progressive islamic nation. Lazy and too defeated to give a damn anymore.", "why did that dude delete the comment lol was it inflammatory remarks ?\nIm also with you dude, I already malas. Im just here for the laughs and cringe.", "Sometime people just lazy to engage, maybe? I did that sometime myself too. But I don't think his comment is inflammatory. I would have remove it instead of replying if that was the case. Maybe takut karma negative kot.", "katabana02\nwait a min, aren't you the mod for r/malaysia", "Yeah. Not now though. Now I'm just a user that curi tulang from work.", ":26561: same" ], [ "I think the Malay Mail wrote and reported this very well. I understood and even enjoyed reading this." ], [ "A Malaysian set of judges indeed.\nHigh Court judge who quashed Home Ministry ban is a Malay lady. Kudos to him for having the balls to do what he thinks is right.\nThen the three Court of Appeal judges, the two who decided to uphold the appeal, Chair is Malay woman and the second judge is a Chinese guy.\nThe one judge who decided that the high court judge decision to uphold the decision to quash the ban is an Indian guy!\nSatu Malaysia indeed and not to mention 2 woman in the mix as well.\nMost of it comes down to the interpretation of the word “likely” to produce prejudice…and acting upon it apparently. At least to my layman understanding.", "Malay lady\nKudos to him\n????", "Thank you mr grammar nazi. Reddit never fails to do this kind of stuff.\nWondering you haven’t commented about…\n…two “women”…\n…woman having the “balls”…?\nSo typical of the internet and social media where let’s nitpick stuff that’s not at all related just because. Haha", "made a silly and inconsequential mistake\ngets poked on\ngets offended\nA Malaysian Redditor indeed. Kudos to you for having skin thinner than xlb", "Waaaahhh,\nSendiri offended now I’m offended?\nHalo, I expected it lah. It’s the norm lah when it comes to socmed. Just telling you as it is and it’s always funny to me as it never fails to happen every time.\nYou poked and I poked back now I my skin is thin.\nYup. Shows how mature this discussion is.\nWhatever you like lah. I think skin can, think skin can, light skin can, dark skin can. Whatever skin lah. As long as you happy my dear grammar nazi guy/gal. I used up all my tokens to reply to a stupid comment for the year already. If you have a meaningful discussion points to share then perhaps I’ll waste more time on social media. If not, that’s it I guess. As long as you are happy.", "I'm not the one replying paragraphs to sentences", "lol kid get a grip", "Okay big brother lol", "Mate I think it’s best if you give this a rest. The like/dislike ratio of your comments should be telling from the outset.", "There's a word for people like you...Incorrigible. look it up.", "Yeah sure Mr Banana. Whatever makes you happy lah. lol", "Sounds like a Pas affiliated sister. Ohhh well. No malam jumaat for you hahahaha", "lol, straight to politics from banana-man. Just can’t see anything without the lens of politics.\nAlso, you can’t be any more wrong but whatever makes you feel good on the interweb bro. lol", "Lol sure u are not. Keep telling yourself that. Hahahahaha" ], [ "Happiness is ok. We do not need to be miserable slaves to religion /s" ], [ "Meanwhile same sex marriage is happening in Thailand and Taiwan.", "Thailand ~> subsection of north voting bloc and lack of political options. They won’t push it through a referendum due to overwhelming no sentiment\nTaiwan ~> quite literally voted overwhelmingly no in the referendum for same sex marriage and thus the unpopular government who had majority at the time pushed it through parliament\nAs for lgbt in general, it’s seen a huge decline in support in the past decade among all groups. It’s a big enough concern in Europe and now we with more right wing competition more parties with openly anti-same sex marriage etc have began winning significant seats.\n^ my point is to display how politics isn’t or a country action may not reflect the majority consensus or the actual fundamental law of the nations.", "Mahathir once said something in his book that, as a white guy, stuck to me to this day, I paraphrase:\n\"White people will fight for something and force the entire world to see it their way, before promptly changing their minds, sometimes in a radically opposite direction, and force the entire world to see things in that new way.\"\nAt a time where gay marriage was illegal in the West, where were you/your parents? Why do you need to wait for us to tell you what is liberal, before you suddenly have to fight for it? Why do you follow us into our slow societal decline of trying to fish for votes in the minorities, because we can't get average joes to the voting booth?\nWe told you \"to be civilized, you need to accept gay marriage\" and suddenly, you discard your entire history/culture to shoe-horn in some principles that barely apply to your society. We had ACTIVE gay scenes for literally 50 years before gay marriage was proposed and another 20 years before the bill passed. You have a microscopic gay scene and you want a specific law for gay marriages...? How?\nIt's so strange to me, this insecurity to need a pat on the head from people who took so much from you already, culturally. On reddit, wearing our clothing, speaking our tongue, seeking our laws.... So very strange not to exist as oneself.\nMAKE YOUR OWN PATH: Once you need social reforms, you will get them, by force or by negotiation, but for Gd's sake, do NOT copy us as if we were a model of enlightenment without understanding what you're doing...\nAlso gay marriage is illegal in Thailand, as of now.\nAs for Taiwan, it needs to act this way to justify the US keep sending the military aid it's sending.", "Wait, making society more equitable is a “white peole” thing? Or is a discriminatory society “Asian culture”? You just used a lot of words to say “I don’t like gay people and they shouldn’t be given the same rights as everyone else.”", "You have a microscopic gay scene and you want a specific law for gay marriages\nThe size of gay scene in a country does not invalidate the need for gay marriages.\nThe right for gay marriage does not interfere with the right for straight marriage in any way, so why bother banning it\nSo very strange not to exist as oneself.\nExisting as oneself is okay except if it implies discriminating people on the basis of race, sexual orientation and more", "microscopic gay scene\nYeah because we'll get hauled off by the cops (and sent to camps now) if we want to establish one.", "it's really strange to me seeing people arguing against individual level human rights by telling some abstract historical narrative about \"culture\"\nlike even if everything you said was true in a historical sense (which I doubt it is), how does that have any bearing on anything?\nI and you and everyone here aren't abstract components of some sweeping ongoing tale about colonialism in the Asian continent we're just fucking people, real people living right here in the now doing our best.\nare you really gonna look at two people in the eye and tell them they can't be together because \"europeans colonised you in the past causing lots of cultural harm and destruction and in a vague sense the promotion of the lgbt community as part of other western conceptions of morality in Asia is similar to a second wave of this cultural colonialism this time not with military force but by soft power \" like fuck off mate", "We told you \"to be civilized, you need to accept gay marriage\" and suddenly, you discard your entire history/culture to shoe-horn in some principles that barely apply to your society. We had ACTIVE gay scenes for literally 50 years before gay marriage was proposed and another 20 years before the bill passed. You have a microscopic gay scene and you want a specific law for gay marriages...? How?\nJeez white conservatives will never cease to surprise me.\nTell me, what exactly do you know of Malaysia or Thailands homosexual/ transexual history? What do you know of it pre-colonial times, and post-colonial times? What do you know of it pre-Islamic times? Heck, what do you know of the gay scene in Malaysia - much less Thailand - even 50 years ago?\nBut yeah, sure. Apparently not being homophobic is \"discarding our entire history/ culture\".", "I'm not even sure the guy is conservative. Comes across as a wild mix of white supremacist/apologist.\n\"We're better than you but please don't follow us and make your own path!\"\nMadness.", "N?" ], [ "Get this matrix shit of this country pls 🤢", "Afghanistan is that way...👉🏼", "Comments removed due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat.\nPlease stop equating LGBT to a form of mental illness.\nThe basic stance of American Psychological Association (APA) and the American Psychiatric Association is that \"homosexuality is not a mental disorder but is rather a normal form of human sexuality, and they propose that their stance is based on significant scientific evidence\".\nIn 1990, homosexuality was declassified as a mental disorder by WHO (World Health Organization) in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD-10)\nIn 2019 WHO no longer classifies gender nonconformity as a “mental disorder.”\nPlease consider this an official warning as further comments in a similar vein will result in a permaban.", "You don't know anything about psychology, do you?\nBasically every renowned psychological association in the world: homosexuality is not a disease", "Literally got brainwashed by matrix smh", "my brother is christ you are the matrix", "Psychologists with years of experience vs u/TeeBlackGold97...\nI know who to believe", "Countries tht killed million of Afghani is tht way.. 👉", "Supporting LGBT rights means supporting wars - Bolehland logics\nNever change, bolehland", "I'll migrate out of here again when given the chance.", "Oof r/clevercomebacks" ] ]

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[ [ "Ultimately everything will just cost more" ], [ "r/kereta parts will also increase due to 10% LVG tax. Feelsbadman.jog" ], [ "This what happens when you have no GST. All sorts of different taxes (different rates too) that could be just harmonised under a GST." ] ]

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[ [ "Shouldn't cybersecurity specialists lead CSM?" ], [ "PMX best leet hacker by none\nnobody can hack PMX" ], [ "So PMX not trust Gobind or Fahmi in handling Cyber security?" ], [ "highest executitve" ], [ "AI ctrl cybersecurity" ], [ "Don't worry A.I. pmx had high security 😂👍" ] ]

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[ [ "83m for each company? Or certain company gets higher penalty?" ] ]

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[ [ "This is mean static ads no demands. Usually the company will leave old ada stay if there is no new ads on board. Waste money just to remove, so if there is new ads on board then the cost for remove+paste new one can combine.", "There's one billboard I pass by all the time that has had something like the Imperium's logo on it since forever", "It might be previous customer ads, or some generic logo by the service provider. Certain unpopular spot really got no demand one.", "Yeah. I know. I was adding how long these things can stay up as long as there's nothing new", "Until they fall down? Whoever put this one up did a good job 😀", "I mean that's not that old. So I'm not surprised. This should be industry standard.", "And it’s also in a relatively safe environment (indoors, air conditioned) compared to billboards outside that get rained and blazed on on a daily basis so it should hold up a lot longer", "So now you know where to put ads is more worth 😂", "Oh okay.", "damn so malaysia ads cost is 1 time fee！", "Mulan movie paid RMXX for eg 1month. After 1month there is no other customer to take up the space. Mulan ada will stay there all the way. This happen in many outdoor static billboard, what outdoor ads can do is, not turn spotlight at night after the ads validity, but in day time it still can be seen.\nI guess so, if you put your services and product ads at the train station (mulan spot) high chance you pay 1 time off and your ads will stay there for a longer time which you not require to pay for the excess period 🫣\nSo if you notice many small local brand like to put their ads at high way which lagi no demand, and their face will stay there very long until color faded 😅 but they already untung, i bet you even can remember some of the ads 😂", "What's the cost of stripping an ad from an elevator door? Is it a difficult task?", "I not sure. That most probably need to appoint vendors. Is cost maybe around 1k. We wont understand if we not in their position. Sure they have their considerations or SOP.", "So... lazy but smart move...? 😆", "Thia is the correct and real reason." ], [ "The station manager does not give a fuck.", "Nah they just have a nostalgic manager", "At least be nostalgic about a film that's actually good rather than dogshit", "Speaking of, McD really owe us Malaysians some Szechuan sauce.", "You should check out his office wall because the framed head of state is queen victoria...", "Or it could be Winnie the Pooh" ], [ "Not just the outside. Within the cars you can also find ads for UPM registration for 2022, movie premiers for 2022, and in a case of aging like milk, Aman Palestin, including QR code for donations.", "Ah yes the ad for the upm course I signed up for. Am now halfway into my 2nd year btw" ], [ "<image>\nAlam Sentral mall has this motorolla ad on the escalators since mid 2000 probably. Still up there i think", "It was oppo a few years back around 2016-2018\nMaybe the management thought they could extort more money to keep the place from crumbling, then Oppo said no, thus we caught our K800i back.\nGoot times." ], [ "If you drive through old klang road ramp to federal, there's a huge banner ad for History Channel Convention 2017 in maeps Serdang. Still in pristine condition because it's under the flyover so shielded from rain and sun" ], [ "Woah … 3 years back", "Maybe we'll need to arrange some kind of celebrations there if it hits 5th anniversary...? 🤷" ], [ "If you look closely, the middle one has a hole in his left eye.", "Damn, I didn't notice...\nPoor Donnie... 🥲", "How tf did u even notice this ? Amazing", "I had been there seeing it in real life haha" ], [ "There is still a No Way Home ad at Bukit Bintang MRT" ], [ "Leave it there for another 20 years like a time capsule!" ], [ "It's the half-ass attitude that stops our country from going places. Not just the authority, but also the general public.", "Country bad when no change movie posters", "Malaysia if old posters get removed" ], [ "Because this station gas too little foot traffic. Nobody bother to advertise here. See pasar seni instead." ], [ "That's typical Malaysian working speed and attitude" ], [ "I thought it was the promotion of Disney+ ads. I was way too wrong" ], [ "Wait, m nasir is in Mulan?" ], [ "Member malas nak tukar" ], [ "This is literally the definition of Malaysia: Under maintained." ], [ "Disney is still paying them" ], [ "This reminds me of this road between Manjung and Teluk Intan. After crossing the bridge before teluk intan, there used to be an ad space. Throughout my time using the road to go back and forth between Manjung and KL, there was a Star Wars Episode 3 ad that's been there for a few years." ], [ "MRT Merdeka is it? Til now????", "Yep, Merdeka station." ], [ "Lol, till now? wow." ], [ "Finally happy mrt" ], [ "today is friday ... in carlifornia", "Hah?!" ], [ "Propaganda PRC..... /s" ], [ "What a coincidence to see this after just seeing a video on YouTube (link) review this movie... and also the... uh, real world funk surrounding it." ], [ "Disney: Worth it" ], [ "It should be Wuhan." ], [ "“Not my job to remove posters”" ], [ "" ], [ "Anyone remember the damn spiderman one in bukit Bintang" ], [ "Certified Dulan moment" ], [ "The jejantas at Subang Airport still has Vivo ads from the 2018 Russia World Cup." ], [ "There was a Shanghai Noon billboard in Shah Alam until 2018\nA movie that came out in 2000" ], [ "thats some value for money advertising fee" ] ]

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[ [ "There's no JAKIM ban on \"Merry Christmas\" greetings on cakes.", "Sure , but the fact that this is even a question on people's minds is troubling. How is this not a problem in other Islamic countries. What's so special about the Islam in Malaysia?", "How is this not a problem in other Islamic countries.\nThey ban other cultures and limit immigration.\nWhat's so special about the Islam in Malaysia?\nWe have a significant portion of the population that is not Muslim and recognises other non Muslim holiday as public holidays", "Hmmmm that's not true, like completely false. The UAE for example has a large migrant non Muslim population and you don't see this fundamentalist nonsense there.", "Key word “migrants”. We don’t have migrants, we have locals which have much louder voices.", "That strengthens my case even further. They needn’t care about the migrants but even there the Muslims there don’t act retarded.", "I vaguely remember that zakar naik started that, and the islam communities agrees and followed up. Whether jakim also followed or not, I can't remember.\nBut i do remember reading about that last week, and greetings on cake is allowed to take home, but not on display cake for halal cake shop.", "Cos Islamophobia. Order is simple, no non-halal ingredients and halal supply chain. Then non-experts start speculating and victim mentality start over-reacting, we ended up with this mess that was a non-issue from the start.", "They start speculating when there is NO clarity and when 70% of populace is butt hurt." ], [ "Typical Malaysian media trying to stir shit because they don't have anything else hot to report on.", "Exactly. I don't really read many news articles nowadays anyway" ], [ "Taliban. You mean Taliban." ], [ "Useless redundant Jakim ninjas. Some more PMX giving them bigger budget allocation. Are Auditor General , MACC making sure that big funds given to them are properly accounted for and not abused?", "A bunch of foolish half-cooked decision makers with their short-sighted vision which then swept everything under the rug like it’s nothing biggie" ], [ "The medias milking issues from 2020", "Desperately want that sweet sweet minimum wage, it seems.\nAnything for a paycheck." ], [ "Full name is Department of Islamic Development Malaysia.\nNo wonder keep on reminiscing the Islamic Golden Age, agency like this tak boleh pakai punya." ], [ "Ask JAKIM one festival st a time. Otherwise they have nothing better to do." ], [ "Cannot put lah, many weak minds here need can die if don't have many layers of protection barriers against their imaginary kafir enemies" ] ]

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[ [ "JJK singlehandedly bringing Malaysia back into the Top 10 most visited countries", "That's the importance of having your country featured in pop culture like movies, anime and music. It's why places like New York, London, Paris are always popular cause pop culture made it alluring\nAll the more annoying that our local censorship board and general conservative govt/society doesn't encourage these things", "Don't forget, entrapment and Catherine zeta-jones' sexy ass. Sean Connery too.", "...what?", "You heard the fella, Sean Connery's sexy ass!", "Sean Connery's Shexshy Ash", "thatsh right", "Sean Connery's sexy ass!!", "Sean Connery's Sassy Mass?", "Can see Petronas Twin Towers while running in Melaka", "fyi they are going to put nanami statue in kuantan", "indeed! stream \"pendatang\" on youtube! let's support malaysian cinema~", "Malaysia has been mentioned many times in American TV series - The Blacklist. I remember an episode with a \"minister\" makes a cameo as a spy or assassin, but the face and the name aren't even Malaysian (Turkish-liked name, and Pakistani face) 🗿🗿", "Malaysia has also been mentioned several times in the video game - Uncharted 4: A Thief's End. Heck, there's even a level titled \"Chapter 03: The Malaysia Job\", even though Nathan and co. never visited the country directly.", "Mission Impossible Rogue Nation briefly too", "Hitman 2: Silent Assassin feature a chapter in KLCC", "Zoolander\nTotally Spies", "I remember Zoolander getting banned in Malaysia 😂😂 guess who was the deputy at that time? 👀👀\nI don't remember Totally Spies though but dang it I miss that cartoon" ], [ "The hotel they are staying in is Mandarin Oriental apparently\nhttps://twitter.com/bestmangapost/status/1737860073282818421?t=EedeOUpDbz0es9WpzoyTPw&s=19", "The thirst is real lmao", "The layout looks more like Trader’s Hotel though…\nSource: I stayed in a room with the exact same layout, but with Twin Tower view.", "oh they're here for CF huh.", "T20 alert /s", "Trader's hotel view are bit farther, bit to the left and don't have that low view because of trees I think . Source: I also stayed in Trader's Hotel with twin tower view as well last week lol\n<image>", "<image>\nAlmost the same view from my room.", "Traders Hotel as well?", "Yup.", "This thread is certified 100% T20", "See the reddit post..it is 100% mandarin oriental", "It has been a few years, so I guess the layout has changed. Either way, I still say it looks very similar, 100% confirmed or not.", "Now, to just wait for Mandarin Oriental to reserve a Twin-Tower view room for cutouts of Mei Mei and her lil’- you know what? Let’s stop here and just be happy they’ve showcased Malaysia!\nMALAYSIA BOLEH!!!", "That hotel's stocks gonna go up", "I used to work there lol, a coincidence 😂", "I knew it", "Im pretty sure their already found it even before got animated" ], [ "She was having this conversation with Megah Holdings.\n<image>\nNext meeting place: CF2023, KL Convention Centre", "hahaha next level play", "When it comes to money, Mei-Mei don't play." ], [ "<image>", "Nichijou!" ], [ "JJK casually called out two Malaysian cities made me want to watch the damn show.", "season 1 is quite calm till you reach season 2", "Season 3/4 is gonna be a roller coaster lmao", "😭😭😭", "You should" ], [ "Any idea why author keep referencing Malaysia in their work?", "Author would like to retire here?", "Pahang govt should offer him honourary residency in Kuantan.", "Kinda makes sense since a lot of old Japanese people love to retire in Malaysia.", "Yup, met one a few months ago who was operating a ramen stall here in Kepong, idk why he picked Kepong but at least now there's some authentic ramen from an actual native here", "😮\nKepong where?", "The kopitiam in front of JPJ/next to mr diy, it's just a regular stall", "Met quite a few Japanese that say they love malaysia and wanna just chill here forever when i went japan. Went 3 times in different years and many of them said similar things", "Oh hey... a little unrelated here, but I didn't know you're a fellow Monyet too. 👀", "Oh hihi, haha do you follow my works?", "I know you've posted your animations (and comments) on the NIKKE subreddit.\nAnd you also had been commissioned (not sure if that is the right term) by the NIKKE team for an official animation for SEA, YOU, AGAIN (if I'm not mistaken).", "Yaya hehe. And recently did a commision for genshin impact / hoyoverse for their hoyofair event. So happy to get gigs from Nikke and Hoyoverse!", "Nice! I don't play any Hoyo games but keep up the good work!", "Cameron Highlands a lot. One man was even featured in local news for picking rubbish along the route he takes everyday to go to Brinchang pasar.\nhttps://www.sinchew.com.my/20190804/retired-japanese-teacher-collects-garbage-in-cameron-highlands/", "Author is secretly Malaysian", "Gege loves to visit Malaysia & it better to use places that u know for manga reference than other places u never even visit.", "I assume gege is the authors's name? Thanks for the insight.", "Yeah, Gege Akutami.", "'tah.", "Japanese love Malaysia", "Yes but they also like Hawaii, Taiwan , Thailand , france etc.", "This and the first time Malaysia was referenced are meant to be directly compared to each other; that's probably why" ], [ "so can we start calling our country 'negara jujutsu' from now on?", "Ok la tu negara jiran dah panggil konoha", "saya dari negara jiran. it's either konoha or wakanda XD", "kenapa kita konoha? and the other names too?", "Coconut jutsushiki et al\nWe've been negara jujutsu for some time now" ], [ "Where did they order their version of Petronas towers? Wish.com?", "Given the animators situation, a frame that only appear for a few second is the least of their worries now.", "Ah, right, I forgot, Mappa.", "Probably copyrighted, like most of the buildings in New York.", "Probably not, never saw Petronas or any of the construction company that built Petronas Towers sued someone for drawing or selling photos/videos of Petronas Twin Towers.", "Nope. Roland Emmerich dropped the towers on London's Tower Bridge, and Doc didn't even sue him.", "Maybe they want to avoid any trademark claim since it is a national landmark or any laws that they are not familiar with. Actually a common practice when animating landmarks" ], [ "PAS: WTF want laga sihir tengok ilmu 2 biji Kelapa lebih hebat atau 2.5 satoru /s", "Me and my friends were joking about this too. They have King of Course, we have Raja Bomoh. Domain expansion, Coconut plantation 😁" ], [ "Looks like Bukit Bintang will follow the path of Shibuya soon…\nAnd what's with the Tesco Value Twin Towers design?", "Mappa issue, btw I'm curious if the incident happened in Bukit Bintang by Malaysian Jujutsu sorcerers/curses user instead of Shibuya Tokyo", "A good chunk of Klang Valley would be a wasteland like what happened to Tokyo after Shibuya.", "A good chuck of Klang valley metropolitan area? You mean the aftermath of \"bukit Bintang\" incident or the culling game?\nNow that would be horrifying if this happened in real life (Tokyo, kuala lumpur, NYC or even jakarta if happened) because the refugees and another impact that I can't stop thinking, the incident and after that could fuel a new wave of Curse", "Thank goodness we're not in that timeline." ], [ "Simp for Mei Mei" ], [ "Weabo tourism." ], [ "Wow, twin tower are so square.", "Animator got no time, credits to them btw" ], [ "I don't watch JJK, but next time when I go to Japan and meet fellow local weebs in anime concerts and conventions, I can just tell them I come from the country that Nanami wants to retire in, rather than having to constantly say \"I'm from the country next door to Singapore, and its not Thailand or Indonesia\". lol" ], [ "I'm curious why it was changed from the courthouse in the manga to the KLCC instead.", "Maybe because people recognize KLCC more than the courthouse?" ], [ "Never watched Jujutsu Kaisen before, which character is that? They looked kinda hot", "She’s the one that fucks her sibling in the that particular episode I think. Her name is Mei Mei", "<image>\nDomain Expansion", "She DID WHAT?!", "incest is wincest for her apparently and also her brother simp her like crazy", "🎶 Sweet Home Kuala Lumpur 🎶", "Understandable", "Damn sounds wild lmao", "Oreimoooo!!", "Just joking, they did not fuck.\nI think .\nAt least in the anime they're just implying to sleep together like a wholesome sibling.\nI really do hope that's the case.\nRight?\nI didn't read the manga so i wouldn't know.", "..... Sure", "her brother is almost on the verge of orgasm when she ask if he would like to be her sacrifice so I think f with her would be the reward for him, idk let those in r/Jujutsufolk cooking that idea", "Here's a sneak peek of /r/Jujutsufolk using the top posts of all time!\n#1: Chat is this real!? | 700 comments\n#2: you can't convince me that he didn't enjoy it | 352 comments\n#3: The truth behind the Zenin curse | 494 comments\nI'm a bot, beep boop | Downvote to remove | Contact | Info | Opt-out | GitHub", "Who sleeps with their brother naked bro??\n<image>", "Well some people just sleep naked, I do it too sometimes. Doesn't mean they fuck. I hope.\n...\nOk fck now im horny bye gotta whack my staff now.", "Youre in denial hahahah", "I didn't even think about it when i first saw this scene all I did is turn off my brain and go \"hmmm booba very cool\"", "This will be censored.", "step-sibling\niykyk", "it's okay shes still hot", "Remember yuji is the main character 😂" ], [ "Soon our government will ban JJK because it involves with some Japanese cursed spirits." ], [ "theyre just fuckin phoning it home at this point" ], [ "Suria -> Purnama?" ], [ "Why the twin towers look like 2 hands displaying middle finger?" ], [ "Fun fact: Mei Mei's favourite food is bak kut teh and Ui Ui's favourite food is goreng pisang" ], [ "But coincidence tomorrow is comic festia" ], [ "I don't know about you but the establishing shot of KLCC looks like something generated from gen. 1 Midjourney", "Agreed this looks strangely ai generated. I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if anime studios in Japan began to utilise AI for TV animes like this to cut cost and production time. I’m not particularly fond of it as an artist myself but if it helps reducing the stress of the underpaid staff then so be it. Until they’re properly paid for their hard work unfortunately I cant really complain.", "They used a photocopied image of Kuala Lumpur in the manga", "Still better than using Parable Confusion." ], [ "So uhh, no one gonna talks about the bed part?" ], [ "Me when Malaysia gets mentioned in an anime: WOOO!!!! YEAHHH BABYYYYY!!!!!!" ], [ "The best part is, she came to kl just to commit incest with her little brother 😂😂" ], [ "I keep getting JJK spoiled by Malaysians sharing these lmao." ], [ "We also have the best domain expansion users in Malaysia. Raja bomoh, the coconut shaker." ], [ "In japan they have sukuna, in malaysia we have Raja Bomoh\n<image>" ], [ "PANGGIL PDRM AND TANGKAP MINAH TU!!!!" ], [ "There’s a move to promote Kuantan too as it was mentioned in that anime." ], [ "Imagine MAIS serbu masuk" ], [ "Please put a spoiler warning." ], [ "Malaysian will lose thier mind:26561:" ], [ "Jjk really twerking hard at Malaysia" ], [ "Sweet home Kualabama Lumpur." ], [ "Soo we gonna ignore what mei mei did orrr" ], [ "Kuala Lumpur is actually a perfect setting because there is a shit ton of curse energy in the city......must be a gold mine for the sorcerers" ], [ "eh monyet. where is the spoiler tag" ], [ "Do we pay them to do this? Why suddenly tho?", "nah. this author likes bolehland. the original manga actually do have these 2 reference", "It's in the manga too so it's clearly the author's intention to put Malaysia in there." ], [ "The mangaka really love Malaysia" ], [ "That neighbouring country otw to claim this place as their own kekw" ], [ "Just curious, why do Malaysians feel the need to post whenever malaysia is included in any form of media? Do residents of any other countries do this?", "Lol clearly you have never seen other 3rd world countries mention in media or famous streamer, Indonesian and south american love the little attention", "Yeah I guess I haven't. Thanks for clarifying that other small countries do this as well", "im curious too. whats up with that?\nive seen a couple of crime YT channels mentioned bout msia... no big deal." ], [ "Looks fake as hell" ], [ "Inferiority complex of Malaysians are amazing. Losing their shit every time its mentioned in media.", "Projecting much? Lol", "Shut up porn account", "What the fuck does inferiority complex had anything to do with this? Retard", "I dont understand someone elses points! He must be a retard!!!!" ], [ "Second last ep no?" ], [ "Holy shit, malaysia mentioned\nAnwar, quick! Get the camera" ], [ "wait for it the konoha will claim it", "Nuh uh, we got the raid silat fight reference 2yrs ago in shibuya arc 😂", "any link boss ? . .", "this and this" ], [ ":26561: i live in europe n i love malaysia!" ], [ "In manga it was actually 2 years ish ago" ], [ "Nanami Kento kuantan shrine is where I wanna be" ], [ "Temu Petronas Towers" ], [ "lol, which episode is this?" ], [ "Can JJK fans give context why they're here? I'm curious." ], [ "JJK putting Malaysia on the map is so random to me, out of all animes." ], [ "Did somebody just make that Suria KLCC shopping mall look like some kinda hospital with a crescent moon symbol on it?" ], [ "Anime Jepun, lokasi Malaysia.... TERBAIK!!!! 👍👍👍" ], [ "Monyets when Malaysia mentioned:" ], [ "Malaysians whenever their country is mentioned in a foreign movie:" ], [ "subs on crunchyroll said: \"Me? I'm in KL\". I had no fuckin idea where she was talking about lol" ], [ "i'm from indo, i remember when i was a kid, i visited Malaysia Genting, it was so fun and the view is so beautiful, i saw a lot of F1 cars and entered casino later (idk what is casino since i'm just a child) but a guy came to me and kicked me out from the casino because i was not old enough to enter, i told him i like those glimmering lights lol" ], [ "Incest in kl" ], [ "My friend who's in kk right now for comic fiesta" ], [ "Now... Rename KLCC as KLMM... Owai" ], [ "I guess the creator pretty much don't want sinkie or indon? XD" ], [ "The way they rebrand Suria KLCC logo to moon say much about Gege Akutami" ], [ "We don't talk about Mei Mei...", "Except the Malaysian one haha." ], [ "We not gon talk about what she and ui ui did in kl?" ], [ "my only concern is how did she get from shibuya to kl in just a span of 1-2 hour" ], [ "Although I hadn't watch JJK which I am going to as I am THAT old and my daughters are carrying my legacy, mentions of Malaysia is kinda hit-or-miss kinda thing in animes. I think recently most Japanese loves Malaysia because they love the slowpaced lifestyle compared it to Japan, which is work oriented culture. It's nice though being mentioned in an anime and of course some of you says makes us stands out more in mainstream. Heck most foreigners now like to visit KL, and some chose Malaysia as their home, a luxury in a budget kinda thing." ], [ "Appreciate the exposure but honestly with all the reference photos available, thats a pretty shitty KLCC twin towers though." ], [ "The character nanamin mentioned another province and I started searching it up because it looked beautiful in the anime it was called kuatan" ], [ "Is she not a pedo? I don't think we want that kind of representation" ], [ "so are we really going to build Nanami's memorial park?" ] ]

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[ [ "underpaid and overworked\nYes for any hotel establishment especially if you aspire to climb the ladder. If you work for any 24hr famous establishment, expect your phone to be buzzing often\nworking culture, experience, work-life balance\nHonestly it’s a hit or miss. I enjoyed working in one department in a hotel and hated another in the same hotel. Another time it’s the reverse\nMalaysia’s hospitality industry has so much potential, but operations staff’s professionalism and skill level isn’t quite there yet for the brand they represent, imo", "Well I guess every dept has its own culture. It's like a landmine, you choose and step into the wrong dept, you're gone. What area of hospitality are you in?", "Worked in hotel and standalone restaurants before. Both FoH and BoH\nCall me xenophobic or whatever but I honestly think Malaysia’s hotel industry can thrive if they hire locals exclusively. But then again the job itself has to be attractive to locals" ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "“When we tried to stop them and said not to enter, they pushed through and caused Chong to get injured,” he told FMT.\nhttps://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/amp/category/nation/2023/10/24/psm-activist-hurt-after-allegedly-shoved-by-lands-and-mines-officer/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17032439058654&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freemalaysiatoday.com%2Fcategory%2Fnation%2F2023%2F10%2F24%2Fpsm-activist-hurt-after-allegedly-shoved-by-lands-and-mines-officer%2F\nSeems like a clear cut obstruction case", "Why is your quote nowhere in the above article?\nWhat are you quoting from? Links should be provided.", "Sorry updated", "Ah, thank you. I appreciate that." ] ]

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[ [ "the probe was linked to the leak of the “Pandora Papers”\nSays it all" ] ]

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[ [ "Report to MCMC" ], [ "Yeah it's scam penah dapat tak tolak pun block je jangan layan", "okok" ], [ "This is predatory subscription practice. You should report to MCMC about this." ], [ "OTP scam. By replying, you may send OTP to them instead", "How would that work?", "There are a few types of OTP, which differs for other countries. One that sends you number, send you link to click or requires you to reply. As long as they can catch one of the reply from your end and convert it into an authorisation message, they can bypass authentication process", "still not sure how it would work but since a lot of people have said the telco can cancel subs, I'll keep it in mind and use that option." ], [ "It happens when you click on some ads on a website\nThen it automatically loads up a subscription,\nThe subscriptions is actually legit\nCall your Telco and ask them to disable all past and future subscription" ], [ "depends. if its taking your money like you prepaid sim or bank report it. if no then block. had uncle that subscribe to gay chat app service and panicking why his prepaid balance is being deducted weekly." ], [ "Just call maxis and ask them to cancel" ], [ "During the Sony Ericson era. This very common. They auto sub from somewhere then potong your credit.\nUsually send STOP ALL can unsub" ], [ "More like a spam , I just block those" ], [ "You cannot ignore the sms, they will deduct rm3 every week/month from your maxis bill. Call maxis up immediatly to unsubscribe.\nI ignored them thought if i sms back to stop, then they will charge my sms. Buy then i saw the maxis bill, they charged me every month! Called up maxis, maxis operator told me i had to unsubacribe or they keep charging. Maxis operated unsubscribed for me. I complained saying i never subacribed in the 1st place, they say i must have clicked somewhere. Im thinking they might be Maxis trying to earn extra from us.", "damn okok" ] ]

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[ [ "Even Dubai allows alcohol consumption in private and licensed public places. While others move forward, we're moving backwards.", "Dubai as an orgasm material for the majority here is outdated.\nNow they want to be the Saudis." ], [ "Alcohol is meant for non Muslims. A blanket ban on alcohol is an insecure move.\nThis is like me forcing my family members to be vegans because I am a vegan.", "Sorry to be pedantic, but the actual simile is your family forcing you to be vegans because they're vegans.\nFits well with the majority + tuan rumah theme.", "your family forcing you to be vegans because they're vegans and have been systematically brainwashed into being vegans from birth by their parents but also think seeing you enjoying meat will somehow turn them into meat lovers." ], [ "Talking business to PAS is like teaching your dog how to do advanced calculus. It will never ever work :26554:", "sir/madam, don't insult dogs please.", "Dogs aren't as stupid", "dogs are holy, don't compare with those humans" ], [ "That's a more logical way to think besides the outright banning.", "It is, someone apparently is aware of prohibition era in USA." ], [ "Guys calm down. Its pas. When did they ever make sense? This is just to incite reaction and stay relevant." ] ]

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[ [ "You mean serving their Islamic Follower and Ban literally everything which aren't their interest?", "Anwar did more in 1 year than PAS did in 33 months\nPH in all their wisdom even went so far as to provoke PAS to make them even more islam(see PKR asking PAS why they didn't ban the Thai concert in a temple)", "That damned \"malaysia is progressive islamic nation\".", "I mean they did none of that when they were in government anyway. So let's just put them in government for them to do nothing again. Ez." ], [ "Don't think having Pastard in govt is a good idea. All they do is blame Dap." ], [ "Maybe they should be your fucking opposition:\nhttps://says.com/my/news/muhyiddin-claims-jews-christians-are-working-together-with-ph-to-christianise-malaysia\nMaybe they espouse a very dangerous, terrorist-type mentality.\nWhy do I bother? PMX agrees with AMANAH, 100%." ], [ "Sorry bossku.. lebih suka tebuk atap." ], [ "We don't need radical bigoted islamist in the government unless you want them to ban every single thing that makes this country a multicultural and multi faith country" ] ]

[ "Satire" ]

[ [ "seriously, what happened that weekend?", "Ethnic Chinese become Malaysian. How dare them 😡", "Pendatang became penduduk.\nSo cina became less than 2% because all became malaysian.\nNow became 20% because they are reidentified by \"THE NATIVE\" as cina again.\nThe math tallied.\n/bigbrain" ], [ "The fuck actually happened? 32% to 2% is a really really huge drop, meaning there would have been way more Indians than Chinese. Smells like BS", "It is. Probably, Israeli Zionist Hasbara pro-genocide propaganda is angry about our government's decisions.", "That is some fucking tongue twister 3000 shit. It hurt my brain." ], [ "Well 10 bucks on it's just another American who doesn't know what she's yapping about." ], [ "Hasbara working full force? Like did they confused Indonesia with Malaysia?" ], [ "lol israel i working fulltime." ], [ "Wtf is this BS? No way Chinese population went that low especially when Singapore is still within Malaysia" ], [ "Because in fairness the cinas have bred up to 20% again. Dude cant you read??" ], [ "Who let this bitch cook? Sila bertanggungjawab" ], [ "Yeah even if she is using correct stats which she is far off, stats without context means absolute nothing. Percentage wise yes the chinese population has decreased to ~20% from ~30% but thats mainly because malay breed more. Population numbers for all races except for others has never drop down once since the independence (source)" ], [ "Is this related to 13May ?", "If it's 13 May, then the loss would be for both Malays and Chinese. This propaganda is misleading regardless.", "Even if it, timeline doesnt add up, plus the casualty percentage aint that high.\nMember confuse Malaysia ngn Indonesia kot lmao", "Statistically 13may would have been a drop in the bucket, not even 0.05%(and that's even assuming all the deathd are Chinese)" ] ]

[ "Economy & Finance" ]

[ [ "Hmmm need more time to feel about this" ], [ "Not feeling it" ], [ "inilah dia kesan ekonomi madani yang mendahulukan kepentingan rakyat. sememangnya rafizi (ekonomi) & bang non (kewangan) adalah gabungan unggul dalam memacu ekonomi negara:29091:" ], [ "Next year will be ( )." ] ]

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[ [ "He really need to keep the receipts\nA family friend was sued by his daughters for not membayar nafkah after his divorce from their mother, but man keep all the receipts and won the lawsuit.", "wow! how the mother 'influenced' the children...\nWhatever pun, both sides need to keep receipts if anything happens.", "So, did the girls sue their mother after finding out she pocketed the child support money?", "This also one of the classic story I heard", "how to pay nafkah anak-anak and keeping the records?\ncreate WISE (not affiliated/promote), get the physical card. pass the card, transfer money in there.\nyou keep the app, you can see when the money spent." ], [ "I was raised in a family where my mom made more money than my dad. My mom always ungkit, ungkit, ungkit my dad never contributed anything just because my dad always don’t have money. She claimed my dad never gave her sufficient nafkah.\nAfter my dad died, the house kinda defunct itself. My dad might not have money but he poured, poured and poured his energy, time and efforts into the family.\nI was sick? Dad brought me to the clinic. I got hospitalized? Dad came to visit me everyday even I didn’t asked him to. I got into an accident? He sprung himself trying to help my situation. I wanted to travel alone to take a paper in another state. He insisted to accompany me. Yes, I passed.\nSure, money can help you get out from a lot of difficult situations but it’ll never replace conviction, devotion, genuine love and empathy.", "your dad is 100% like my dad, he's a low ranking policeman, while my mother is a teacher . (salary differences there)\nI was involved in accident, my father came to help. in school I was bullied my dad came handled those bullies. I was hospitalised for few days due to my naughtiness as a child, my dad visit me everyday and bought me majalah Dewan Pelajar so I have something at the hospital.\ni wanted an electric guitar, my dad managed to source a used beat up electric for me.. for cheap.\nThank you dad.\nWhen he died, in a difficult situation my mom always ' kalau la ayah awak masih ada..)", "Bless your Dad, may his kindness and devotion as Father inspire you to become a great person.", "Good story", "Bawling my eyes out .", "After my dad died, the house kinda defunct itself. My dad might not have money but he poured, poured and poured his energy, time and efforts into the family.\nI'm glad you realize how your father lives his life. Never focus on Money, instead focus what really important, Life is Short.\nThe same thing will happen, even though my father's salary is significantly more than my mother's. My wage is five times that of my wife, and the same things happen, resulting in a divorce.", "the exact kind of answer im looking for", "thats how \"money vs loves\".. great story", "Sorry for your loss .I loss my dad and sister . Due to sickness. So I understand your pain." ], [ "Rich husband. - Its usual la\nRich wife - suami biawak hidup! Telur takde!", "Double standard of life that are conveniently ignored by some people. 😔" ], [ "Marriage in the modern world is difficult because of the never-ending comparing.", "Late stage of capitalism and feminism.\nFeminism is all good until you bring that back into home and put it on table loudly.", "And social media" ], [ "If the gender is reversed...?", "every single social media will talk about this. the husband personal information will be disclosed in less then a week. pro bono lawyer will offer their services to the wife to fight the husband in court", "The wife will also have an affair with the lawyer.", "This is the Drama storyline, bro :26561:", "bro delete all this thread or disney will copy and pasted in their next marvel movie", "With how bad their Marvel & Star Wars movies & shows quality nowadays, even if they copy it, they'll gonna f**k it up.", "Im just waiting disney making a 'drama jam 7\" at this point tbh. would be funny af seeing how far they have fallen", "But the lawyer is a hetero male disguised as a female, (enter whatever backstory) . The both fell for each other. But the wife is confused, I'm not a lesbian, she told herself.", "laugh in religious court favoritism", "Classic Result: End up divorcing, losing custody of the child, and having to pay alimony for ex wife every month.\nEx-wife will be featured in a magazine as a Strong Woman of the Month\nTitle: Stop Domestic Abuse", "We should normalise calling out toxic femininity. This here behaviour is it", "What do you mean? Like a husband who earns a lot calling his stay at home wife useless and deadbeat the the level of psychological detriment?\nThat's domestic abuse. This is also domestic abuse regardless of gender.\nWhat's your point?", "So what's a female version of biawak hidup called then?", "There is no female version of biawak hidup in a local context, because generally throughout most of global human history the objective reality was that the infant survival imperative/difficulty of pregnancy+childbirth+breastfeeding+raising kids common sense necessitated that the stronger men providing sustenance to a woman so that she in turn may attend to nourishing and caring for the family/and helping to keep the community together.\nEven if the woman was childless or bad at housework, there were few opportunities for earning and independent income , alone, safely, without danger of assault or violence or abduction , which is a reality even now.\nChivalry in the past dictated that an educated man in those times would understand that even a \"useless\"woman is a \"helpless\" woman, deserves his kindness and should never be considered a \"biawak hidup\" , because as woman, she and her children are more vulnerable to danger from men and the world in pursuit of being a provider like him.\n(Not saying successful single mom stories didn't happen or it is impossible, but not without many many risks to herself and her young offspring ).\nI believe regardless of gender and who is pulling in the bigger income, a couple working as a team should show love , appreciation , understanding ,kindness, honor and respect to one another.\nThe one who earns less or stays home or \"seemingly doesn't pull their weight\" should not be looked down on. Respectful communication matters." ], [ "this why sekufu is a thing. either way, an imbalanced dynamic would always disrupt a relationship", "Never ending battle. What if it's started with the husband had a higher salary then went stagnant for a few years while the wife salary kept on increasing. File for divorce each time the wives salaries exceeded the husbands?", "Glad that's not what happened to my parents. Dad was pretty loaded with his business till he got attacked with mini stroke. Now both happily living pencen life already", "Same also . They will complain men dont give time for them .. got money also problem , not got also problem", "☕" ], [ "La.. bkan susah sama2 and senang sama2 ke\nKata nak adil equality", "Old Saying \"Bagai Kacang lupakan kulit\"", "Bagai foreskin lupakan kontol /s", "My man spitting fire here 🔥🔥😱", "🤣🤣💀", "Equal . No hantaran . Not even in islamic . Mas kahwin . Need to inform people you marriage - fb got , twitter got , tik tok got. No need big feast", "Ya la ... Virtual live wedding reception. The platform should be built for the future \"covid-like\" events. Lots of filters to be taken with the newlywed and those who join online. Food will be distributed in coupon form/Grab food voucher", "some tiktok said 450k need for marriage . kinda nonsense . If celebrities may seem larvish but sponsor . We peasant , do peasants way .Focus on house payment more important." ], [ "Something I have discussed with my therapist. No relationship is ever equal.\nYou can be the same age, have the same education, make the same money, and still not be equal. There are other things at play-- emotional intelligence, etc.\nThe only important thing is that you want to understand and grow for each other. Breaking up is OK if the incompatibility is insurmountable, but you don't have to hurt someone to move on." ], [ "Being a man in 2023 and beyond gonna be even harder because of unrealistic and bs influence from social media. Stop using social media folks,it rot the mind.", "Just don't start if you are still sheltered pls. It's for your sanity", "No, Especially if you're sheltered.", "I dun really know much about socmed, I just know it's bad. I dun know any intricacies of it as I never started. From young I alr thought it rots your mind", "Yeap, young mind, consuming socmed thinking reality is like this. Skewed view of how world looks like. Brain rot.\nIf you're sheltered? Double brain rot. No point of irl reference." ], [ "Husband should put a hidden mic on himself. Collect enough evidence then ask a lawyer if a divorce would be messy." ], [ "☕️" ], [ "But what gomen position pays RM8k?", "Late stage cikgu can reach 8k wi5h elaun, doctor starts at 5k min basic, can go up to 10k in 10 years ish. Pedalaman stations get 10% of basic at least. Hardcore pedalamans get 1k at least.", "I can attest to the pedalaman one. Kinda my dream tbh, to get 1k elaun for not leaving my housing area.", "Hard-core pendalaman got 1.5k 😚", "It used to be 3k a few years back. Wqs a dream of mine to go to Mabul, lol.", "Damnnn... my lazy ass would love having that kind of money. My sister got it, but it doesn't mean much cause she likes to go out, and one way going out was 300-700 if she doesn't find someone to share the speedboat with.", "and one way going out was 300-700 if she doesn't find someone to share the speedboat with.\nKapit? Wait, Kapit now got road. Where ah?", "Aaa.. Sungai Passin. I heard got road if u pass Daro, but she doesn't have a car so she either uses the ferry thingy or the speedboat.\nBut she got transferred earlier this year so dunno la how they are rn.", "I have a cousin who is also a teacher. He teaches in a rural village somewhere in Sri Aman division. Had to travel by boat to get there.\nThe number of students are so few that sometimes they put everyone in one class, no matter what Year they are in. Imagine that classroom scene from anime Non Non Biyori.", "Homebodies will make insane bank in p3. I'll be content with going out like once every month for supplies and just chill at home the rest of the time, lol. And depending on the local community, you get free food once in a while.", "Plenty.", "Thanks", "Plenty. You think gomen worker got paid peanut or something.", "Age 40 48 grade and they always complain not enough" ], [ "Bombastic sideeyes" ], [ "As a single source income in my family, i think it doesn't matter who earns more. Doesn't matter how much i make, if my housewife wife doesn't take care of the house and kids my life would be hell too" ], [ "Marrisge is an equal partnership of unequal efforts" ], [ "And this is why I want to remain single", "handsome?", "Single and handsome = sayangnya…\nSingle and hodoh = memang patut pun", "Should be\nSingle and Good Attitude = Sayang\nSingle and Bad Attitude = Memang Patut Pun\nAs outlook does not last forever in the end we will die and old too", "Nak sedapkan hati sendiri ke ni? 🤔", "Hati tu tak payah la sedap sudah jadi fossil dah:26554:", "I mean \"hand-some\"", "Three-Some?", "Four-some?😏", "🫣" ], [ "betul la uncle rosyam kata tu" ], [ "Guess it's one of the burdens men have to carry. That's what makes us men i think. There's lots of talk about these issues." ], [ "Remember last time theres a podcast with Rosyam Noor and he talks about wife with higher income will end up becoming egoistic? A lot of idiots condemned him. Well...." ], [ "Woman." ], [ "women hav 8k. \"i dont need no man\" men hav 8k. \"i can support my family\"" ], [ "Lmao plenty of whataboutism ITT" ], [ "This applies to both genders. If you don’t make at least RM 10k, do not get married.", "Lol imagine the kind of malaysia we'd have if this is enforced", "Hahahaha,any country will cease to exist within a generation if everyone follow this logic.", "10k per person, or both combined? like that looks like i am not suited to get married already la friend.", "RM 10k per person." ], [ "", "Or dont marry a horrible person. If your wife stays simply because of looks and performance. Thats a depressing marriage" ], [ "To be honest I look down on men who can’t earn money even though worked for many years. If you’ve worked for 10 years and your salary is still 3k then the problem is probably you.", "To be honest I look down on men\nEither you look down on people from both genders who meet the criteria....\nOr..\nYou just don't look down on people", "I look down on your existence for having a stupid take like that.", "I can agree with you on that. Just wondering, should men look down on women who can still be considered as incompetent drivers even after driving for so many years?", "boringggg, you seem insufferable" ] ]

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[ [ "Users often report submissions from this site and ask us to ban it for sensationalised articles. At /r/Malaysia, we oppose blanket banning any news source. Readers have a responsibility to be skeptical, check sources, and comment on any flaws.\nYou can help improve this thread by linking to media that verifies or questions this article's claims. Your link could help readers better understand this issue. If you do find evidence that this article or its title are false or misleading, contact the moderators who will review it.\nI am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns." ], [ "What's with lots of murderings lately", "It's Klang", "Its for the greater good", "The greater good", "\"FOR TAU\"\nMy units, seconds before getting destroyed by a horde of Orks", "Yarp", "Have u seen them swans?", "Sneak peak of the new gta v dlc" ], [ "Not only murdering cases keep increasing in Malaysia, but it's mostly happen in Klang. Wth is going on at Klang?", "\"Klang is not for human live one\"\nThat's why when I joked about KL annexing all the surrounding areas to form a state, I told Selangorians that they can keep Klang :26554:", "Truly the Florida of Malaysia", "i read someone else saying it’s the detroit of malaysia and i think that fits better…lol", "Not Florida, that is Kedah. If Selangor is California, then Klang is Compton.", "KLang. Take KLang thanks.", "in fact, lets give Klang the Singapore treatment and give em independence. they can figure it out themselves", "\"Klang is not for human live one\"\nIs the most populous area...", "By district or city/municipal council, klang is not the most populous area. Don't get it confused with klang valley, which is a collection of cities/districts surrounding putrajaya and kl.\nBy district, it'll be Petaling district by far. By city/municipal council, it's either kajang or pj.", "I think Subang jaya is huge, that entire place is like a whole residential zone. lol", "I live in subang myself, it is not exactly huge when compared to cities like pj or shah alam. But very densely populated. As of 2020 MBSJ census (when it was granted city status), the population is slightly above 700k iirc. In the same year, petaling jaya's population is more than 900k.\nThen again, it's kinda hard to get reliable stats on population by cities compared to districts and/or electoral constituencies.", "Klang is a busy port city with alot of trades, incoming ships and alot of opportunities for making money, so there will be underworld kinda of things 🫣 This been happening more than 100 years", "So it's an open world pvp area?", "It's Malaysia's very own GTA. We need a game titled GTA: Klang Valley", "There's more population in kv than anywhere else in Malaysia and body are harder to hide. Compared to the other state.", "It's statistically the most unsafe city in Malaysia, literally our version of Detroit.", "Why single out Detroit when Memphis, Tennessee is the most dangerous city in the US?", "Detroit is the most popular one. Theres a meme about it.", "", "Hang Tuah is from the area.", "More people more crime,more dense the population the higher the frequencies.", "Sibu also have one" ], [ "Is this hanging arrangement even possible? I always thought your legs have to be off the ground", "The strangulation device (probably a metal wire or rope) is still tensing her airway since her body is druped as her legs are not supporting the body, so the body is still hanging", "Seated hanging is a thing. The late great Robin Williams committed suicide like that. Also Kate Spade did the same, I think. And if you watch the show The Wire, there's one scene where a murder victim is made to look like he committed suicide by hanging (seated)" ], [ "Err I didn't expect the article to have uncensored photos of the victim hanging.", "Just WoB being their sensationalist/insensitive selves.", "“Yooo check out this dead body!!! Bruhhh!! Also here’s some penis enlargement pills ad. Next up, read up on this top 10 celebrity sex life!!”\n~ WOB", "theres no gore and the identity is hidden, its within general guidelines.\non lyn theres a vid showing the face. i can tell u she just seems like shes asleep. i have no idea who she is. but theres no real value of seeing unless just to cure your curiosity" ], [ "if someone from Klang asks you to hang out with them, just say no." ], [ "Regular Friday in klang", "Can't have shit in Klang." ], [ "Klang trying to one up any other cities that has murder cases of recent late" ], [ "Klang not for human live one.", "Kan? :26554::26554::26554:", "live\nBut how can they be live? :26562:" ], [ "What does this have to do with 'cultural'? NSFW tag man... Don't feel good seeing dead body on my feed.", "It doesn't show the face\nIt's not really apparent" ], [ "Murder spree" ], [ "Wouldn’t be surprised if that place becomes haunted" ], [ "Guys, stop, nothing is pointing to a murder. Look at the pictures, she could have just stood. To me it look more like a suicide than a murder.", "Yeah I also wanted to point out that there will be a spike in suicide rate in the coming christmas and new years. That’s just how it is. If you know any loved ones that are alone, it’s a good time to invite them out." ], [ "So that LRT station soon will have a ghost movie coming out?" ], [ "Potential paranormal activity place" ], [ "Don't mess with loan sharks" ], [ "Straight out of a damn horror movie" ], [ "Asian mexico" ], [ "could be mental illness or murder case" ], [ "well this is unnerving" ], [ "rohingya lady" ], [ "When some one took \"lets Hang out\" too serious. R.I.P" ], [ "There's many real news outlet out there. please don't use this shitty world of buzz.\nunless TS is a wob simp" ], [ "Worse than USA now", "Nahhhhh", "Yep. As per population density" ] ]

[ "Religion" ]

[ [ "Wouldn’t this be a huge landmark case for converts?", "Then go to shariah court, then the judge rule against loh. This just the appeal only" ] ]

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[ [ "Meanwhile roadside stall, warong auto halal", "Auto halal as long as it's owned by a Malay /s", "Why /s when it's true???", "In my experience of business, everyone has the capacity to cut corners and ignore certification/specification requirements. No group of people is exempted.", "That's the truth." ], [ "Not this shit again. Tak paham aku, kalau was was tak payah pegi la. Sushi mentai tak sure halal ke tak, aku terus tak pegi. Apa yg susah", "Diorang ni semua buta2 ikut ada halal ke x. Kalau xde halal, gerenti haram. Bodoh nak mampus. Kalau ikut logik macam ni, warung2 tepi jalan x boleh makan la tapi berlambak je orang Melayu makan, sebabnya orang Melayu punya owner.\nLepastu diorang sibuk claim kata orang2 yg makan benda xde logo halal ni tak belajar agama padahal dalam Islam ni ada konsep was was. Kalau x rasa yakin, xyah makan. Kalau rasa yakin, boleh makan. Ikut cerdik akal sendiri la.", "Orang islam boleh guna akal berfikir? Tapi ustaz kata otak tak perfect kena ikut quran hadith sebab kita akan berfikir macam macam /s", "Dengki is the reason", "Tak dpt pergi nnti maruah tercabar pulak. Mana boleh.", "Til why sushi mentai usj9 disappeared after MCO, Ada halal problem. Used to be crowded and need to queue", "Xleh biar saudara dikonpius oleh kedai x halal ni... Dpt kumpul pahala selamat saudara drpd dicemari gitu...\nOwai" ], [ "The mak cik who sell near my house lorong also not halal? Wow I can't believe I'm supporting a Yahudi agenda service.\ncough", "Kamu remaking beriani ahh" ], [ "Abang Ameen again. This guy is leading the with hunt recently", "Yeah he's a piece of shit. Doesn't surprise me that he used to be involved in politics. I hate how he's using the ReLiGiOn excuse to push what is basically thinly veiled racism at this point." ], [ "But nasi lemak stall tepi jalan also no halal cert.", "No average makcik can source 100% of its ingredients from halal companies. Can you really find halal cert belacan? Sure but in bulk.", "Exactly. But you don’t see them authorities commenting anything regarding roadside stalls or warungs. 🤔" ], [ "Many shops don't serve pork and lard, but can't afford halal certification. Don't unfairly penalize hawkers." ], [ "Are your home kitchens halal certified?" ], [ "“Muslims are obliged to ensure that all food and drinks are clean and halal because they are our flesh and blood. The most important thing is to make sure that the restaurant or eating place has SPHM because the halal sign indicates the operation and food ingredients in a premises meet the requirements.”\nthe road side stalls / warongs / home cooked food - (open house, kenduri etc) also don't have halal cert…\nBased on cleanliness it self, most of this tepi jalan stalls / warongs would have failed miserably", "Remember the complaints about getting rotten food at the Ramadan bazaars? Nobody came out and shout gerai ko xhalal at those vendors. There was even a case where there were maggots on a sotong dish eww", "Mempersoal melei stall operators? We don't do that here", "I remembered I have a mini debate with someone, he said all eateries with no halal cert must display \"Non-Halal\" logo big-big so won't confuse Muslims.\nThen I said those Nasi lemak roadside must do the same right ? He straight quiet...", "The most important thing is to make sure that the restaurant or eating place has SPHM because the halal sig\nlooool, will leave this here:\nThe meat being smuggled included horse, kangaroo and even pork meat which were mixed and sold as halal certified beef.[1][2] The cartel bribed senior officials from a number of Malaysian government agencies.\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_halal_meat_scandal_in_Malaysia", "Based on cleanliness it self, most of this tepi jalan stalls / warongs would have failed miserably\nMost malaysia consider road side stall is clean. So what the problem here.\nIf you don't think it's clean enough, don't eat there.\nSame as if I don't convince some restaurant serve halal food I won't eat there.\nvery simple things", "Most Malaysians know road side stall is NOT clean. We just makan anyway xD", "aku ni selalu je makan dengan tikus besar, siap kencing dalam milo ais aku. biarkan tikus jangan termakan daging babi dan minum air liur anjing. /s", "Consider and proof are not the same thing bro. You could see fly flying around the kuih and yet you could consider as clean according to each person's standard of cleanness but it's a fact that fly flying around is not clean", "Yeah nah, I wouldn't want tyre particles in thr food I eat." ], [ "Someone didn't meet the kpi ka? This is clearly a marketing ploy to push for application and payment for a halal cert", "No it is the BMF gang way of sabotaging" ], [ "Just build a giant mosque and never come out if religion is the only thing that matters." ], [ "Pergi overseas boleh pulak masuk cafe Yg serve beer and wine and Makan lunch. Alasan Mcm Mcm. Mai balik Malaysia berjuang halal like end of the world" ], [ "Whats the big deal? if the restaurant never stated it was halal....whats the hooha?", "Because no chop halal means not islamic proven, according to kampung illiterates.", "No chop and yet they still go buy nasi lemak from all the mak cik pak cik stalls\nHypocrites", "Them : Boikot time", "Mind you its not just a 'kampung' thing, many urban Malays also think along these lines", "yesss many still blame kampung but the urban ones", "This is true, doesn't matter if its no pork no lard, no halal cert means no go", "To each his or her own, at the core of it if ada timbul rasa was-was and the store cannot put that to rest, then better if tak pergi.", "Malaysians go overboard with Halal. They also mistrust foreign Halal certs even if they are recognised by JAKIM.\nThere are also stories of Malaysians tourists refusing to even eat at halal restaurants abroad so they brought cooking appliances and ingredients with them. 💀" ], [ "Meanwhile in Sabah and Sarawak, eateries display “no pork, no lard” and muslims eat there freely with no issues.\nKeep it up my east Malaysia brothers and sisters. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻" ], [ "Tbh people who stay and eat there for the past 30 years knows about it. It's jointly operated by Cina + Malay across 2 generations. Cina do the money collection and orders while Malay do the food preparations.\nIt's ok until an outsider decided to think coexistence is an issue." ], [ "rumah nenek moyang kau xde sijil halal ke?" ], [ "It's kinda stupid. If you know it's not halal, why bother to go there in the first place?", "Cause melayu", "‘Nak MerASA’ their typical stupid response. The world must conform to their personal beliefs. Entitled. Because if it was a hindu, they see beef, they just move on and life goes on.", "Because its not really 'not halal!, just no halal cert. But seems like this one kind of does use non halal items, i might be wrong." ], [ "Facebook user, Abang Ameen\nDamn that Facebook page filled with \"cayanun xleh caya, no lard Muslim friendly nk tipu Muslim\" comments.\nI wonder if Marlboro got halal logo or not lol." ], [ "\"clean\" they say. While I'm looking at a bangla shredding cabbage at the road side for the burger stall that the majority frequent.", "Btw the term Bangla is considered derogatory", "even bangladeshi call themselves bangla", "They got the B-pass bro just like how blacks have N-pass", "Even you call yourself Beruk Anjing", "Oh? That's new to me. I met many bangla people and they all referring themselves as such. Bangla just sounds the same as cina, malay, Indian, dayak, whatever, to me.\n....... Unless u think by simply existing as that race is derogatory.", "No, it isn’t.", "Bangla is what they call themselves. Ask them." ], [ "Is this exclusively a malaysian problem? Muslims in other countries are able to dine at a restaurants with pork and alcohol so long as they order food free of pork.", "Haven't you heard? JAKIM > all. Other countries' halal certs are subservient to the almighty JAKIM Halal cert. Muslim-run restaurant in London? Definitely not Halal, got no JAKIM cert!" ], [ "Now, careful when viral. Always the \"is this halal\" guys cropping later" ], [ "Halal certification should be taken as a guarantee and most of the time it should be up to your judgement. I mean your Muslim neighbor/friend's kitchen aren't halal certified either. And chances they wouldn't pass the halal standard if judged according to the cert requirement." ], [ "Should also boycott malays restaurant that doesnt have halal certs as even malays restaurant use non halal indegrient like the Seri Petaling claypot rice seller.", "malays restaurant use non halal indegrient like the Seri Petaling claypot rice seller.\nThat couple are Indonesian. There are video from influencer the other day showing they been using that ingredient since selling at Chinese own restaurant where they open small stall inside it." ], [ "Might as well have a gold six-pointed star license for Non-halal business owners." ], [ "Why do we care so much mai god" ], [ "", "Oh wow, the Islamist PM is doing Islamist snake things? Who could've expected this??? 🤯😱" ], [ "Halal ni tak wajib. Terpulanglah kepada peniaga yang nak mohon. Bila dah dapat sijil halal, kena ikutlah peraturannya dan diberi kebenaran untuk pamer logo halal.\nPerbahasaan halal : sama ada gambar, logo halal atau \"Melayu Boleh Makan\", ayat suci, perkataan \"bismillah\" sekiranya peniaga pamerkan, juga perlu dapat sijil halal.\nBerita ni kiranya normal lah, pihak berkuasa cuma jawab pertanyaan..." ], [ "Oh please not this nonsense issue again" ], [ "One day a wish for a fully non halal state, free from halalness. Would be a paradise on earth." ], [ "Wonder if theyll ban places from using the phrase Muslim friendly. Been noticing that more on my last trip back home" ], [ "Guys while you all are gossiping, i wan to tell you guys that this desert shop punye cendol, luohanguo, and rojak is sedap. Ok bye\nPs: this shop is just behind the place i use to live" ], [ "Maybe they got applied for halal certification but thr process only take a long time only" ], [ "Halal cert is sirim for food." ], [ "Is there a database to check a places halal status?" ], [ "These updog establishments are a tricky one to have an opinion on", "updog\nEh, apatu \"updog\"?", "Nothing much bro. What’s up with you too?\nEh wait", "hehehehehe\nSee, this is why being multilingual is a win", "Ah so similar to like almost the whole of Malaysia then ya. Agreed" ], [ "people like to indulge idiots online istg, nasi kandar Babi post barely got any engagement until twitter butt hurt decided to get their tits twisted. idiots like these need to be ignored because they basked in any kind of interaction, positive or negative." ], [ "It shows that even Islamic enforcers are being controlled by group of religious mobs. What's next, Kedai sembelih babi kena tutup pasal tak ada sijil halal?" ], [ "Happens when you listen to sohai people on the internet." ] ]

[ "Economy & Finance" ]

[ [ "turn back to sst always a backwards way of doing things, the dumbest ever just to win a vote and populist voice, they can just reduce GST from 6% to a lower %, but promise voting (getting power) is more important than the future of a country" ], [ "well, dont want GST this is what you get really\ngovernment needs money to run (we arleady have not enough) so money has to come from somewhere", "But.. But... But... I thought some say can use Petronas money to settle problem in the country", "well most malaysian economic logic is terrible, and petronas wont be enough to solve our issues", "As if Petronas has a lot of money nowadays", "So where's all the oil money.", "oil & gas business is very capital intensive. petronas is seriously like magic already can provide so much dividends to malaysia.", "Stop using Petronas money for everything. The money belongs to the staff working" ], [ "lol, i remember when GST was first abolished and SST started, there was a post here showing the “savings” OP got for his food bill and it was something along the lines of a few cents. post was upvoted big time and everyone patted themselves on the back.\nin the end of they day, there are ever only 100 cents in a dollar. money has to come from somewhere." ], [ "GST was victim of politics by opposition then.. they made GST associated to ah jib gov bad doing when in reality it's good, better and fairer tax regime.\nTrust the politician to screw things up. So many of my friends said bagus hapus GST.. GST implemented all over the world.. if it's that bad it wouldn't last this long as an effective and fair tax collection method." ], [ "Concern trolling" ], [ "Yeap. The country got about 44 billion annually from gst. Sst only manage to get about 20 billion. So, we pretty much lost 24 billion annually after gst was removed. Most of our long term plans drafted during najib time was based on gst income.\nSo, the gov need to find ways to cover back that 20 billion loss.", "But shouldn't it's better better to increase SST or bring back GST than making new taxes that charge more that GST 6% ?", "GST is better because it almost prevent leaks, as the GST is pre-paid by the manufacturers. Now everyone from the manufacturers to wholesalers to retailers are incentivized to make sure the products reach and paid by the consumers.\nWhether the SST or GST charge more is a non-issue as tax rates are adjustable.", "Can you expand more on this?", "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value-added_tax", "You think changing taxes like switch off on the lights? Hahaha.\nThing is, when changing taxes, there will definitely be a big spike in inflation. And it would take years for things to be stable back. When we changed from gst to sst, things were not yet stable. And then covid hit, further create problem with inflation.\nIf gst is to be re introduced now, inflation will go woooosh up up up. Need to wait for things to stable down before changing back to gst. The gov already have the intention to do so, but waiting for the right time.", "But then doesn't rakyat paying more tax plus if they reintroduce back GST ? I meant buying from foreign shop seller already got you max 10% ??? Plus if at app they charge you GST than it's fking 16% tax ???\nI meant my calculations may off cause I'm not economy, accounting but that would be what in most rakyat mind that we paying more than what GST before ?", "It can end with either 2 ways\n1) they remove all these taxes and lump it all into gst.\n2) maintain these taxes and claim they manage to increase gov revenue due to good management.", "Usually, taxes on goods/services aren't charged twice. For example, local digital services would charge sst while digital services tax is for foreign service providers.\nThe argument that gst is more expensive than sst for consumers is the fact that gst is a multi-stage tax, while sst is only charged at manufacturing stage or consumption of goods/services.\nTax on LVG for online sellers is suggested because as per SST rules, imported items below minimal value of RM500 are exempted.\nAll in all, these new taxes and rates might seem like everything gets more expensive because of the tax. When in fact, the govt is just trying to cover all the loopholes left due to the SST tax regime.", "But when you look at the rate of inflation during the the year of GST introduction, there was actually deflation ffor that and the next year, only readjusting in 2017 before going negativr again when GST was pulled in 2018\nhttps://www.macrotrends.net/countries/MYS/malaysia/inflation-rate-cpi", "Inflation only takes account raw materials. They dont take processed/cooked food into their calculation. Raw materials did indeed went down as they are exampted from gst which is why you see a deflation pattern. But processed food like sardin, maggie, nuggets and the likes and also at restaurants we see a jump in inflation.\nWhich is why the famous quote by ahmad maslan if expensive cook at home. And his infamous nasi goreng tanpa gst.", "Generally inflation is calculated by using consumer price index, which does take into account processed foods generally purchased by an average household though.\nPerhaps goods at restaurants would not be taken into account, but if their raw materials were exempted from GST why would we see a jump?\nOfc the CPI is an average, which could impact different segments of the population differently. (ie. If generally m40 products go down in pricing equally to generally B40 products going up, you might still have a bad situation as those less able to pay are forced to pay more )", "Bringing back GST would be political suicide.", "Making new tax that is numerical higher than GST plus cut down on subsidy is not political suicide?", "Well, the name \"GST\" carries all sorts of negative connotations. Maybe they can just gall it \"VAT\" (same thing) and set it at 5%. Which is already lower than our neighbours.\nPlus, GST is broader as it covers most goods essentially. Though, in many jurisdictions, essentials would have a lower tax rate or are not taxed at all." ], [ "IMO, yes PH fucked up in 2018. The first PH govt Abolished GST which brought inflation and investors left due to 1MDB,GST abolish. It was a scary time for FDI. Had gst just been lowered, it coulda been better. Then Sheraton lah etc. Politicians win, rakyat lose." ], [ "what they say: gst to sst will make price cheaper\nwhat happen:\n<image>\nnow got new tax somemore. but you guys stay tuned for rafizi podcast when he will explain all this is a better way for malaysians since gst is considered regresif kind of tax system:26554:👌", "Same thing when they say implement GST will make the price cheaper.\nFool us once, shame on you, fool us twice shame on us. Fool us for the third time, guess we will never learn our lesson." ], [ "Uhm gst is included in everything is listed on the right , removing gst makes government lose income which means yeah gst take more than sst , but that doesn't mean its a good thing , if this is one of those post that want to imply sst tax us more than gst , it would work on certain party supporters maybe.", "The argument is GST makes taxes simple. Now the government has to whip up different taxation regimes to claw back revenue.", "Yep, it’s a much more consistent method to tax." ], [ "I mean you want jib jib and gst out at 2018 right?", "Well the reason why i want jibby out is cause how opposition that time said they can do better job but after PH took over under Tun M not long his reign fall now under PMX it seem like, mathematical us Rakyat paying more tax than before GST plus want to cut subsidy some more, haishh.." ], [ "Item too expensive = tax\nItem too cheap = tax\nItem too big = tax\nYou selling stuff? = Tax\nYou buying stuff? = Tax\nHello just use back GST and just have 1 tax amount for everything please, ini Banyak extra dei" ], [ "Malaysian doesn't know how blessed we are. Go to other country and see how much is their tax and how much they pay for petrol", "Yep. Our neighbours pay 10-11% in VAT.\nOur 5% GST dah cause people to naik angin.", "Yet the gomen need to subsidise this and that to keep voters happy", "Isn't that cause our RM suck ass? If you compare them directly" ], [ "should have remove all these tax, go ahead cut fuel subsidy instead.", "Er.... They are going to do that, i think next year they will unveil plan on who got fuel subsidy and who not so yea, next year got a lot of challenges", "Analysts \"expect\" subsidy cuts, rafizi said something about fuel subsidies which is very true. But it's all still speculation. We don't know whether the govt have enough balls for subsidy cuts yet, especially with the waning approval rate.\nImho, targeted subsidies are a logical approach. Especially for petroleum products, which is about 45b ringgit (more than 80% of expenditure on subsidies). How would they do it? Nobody knows. Is it necessary? Definitely." ], [ "And the so called best Chief Minister we ever had LGE increased our dependency on oil." ], [ "True but not entirely fair, cos this seems to imply that should GST be retained, the other taxes won’t exist. The only comparable one is GST vs the extra 2% hike in SST. Even so, we won’t know for sure that should Najib stayed as PM, the new taxes wouldn’t have been introduced, unless someone finds Dr Strange to show us a multiverse where Najib wasn’t voted out in 2018." ], [ "By the way here's another 100 B̶R̶I̶M̶ Madani gula gula for you guys. The kerajaan is always perihatin :29091::29091::29091::29091:", "Kennot claim oh", "Rich lo" ], [ "Even with all those taxes, GST still taxes us more as a whole", "Elaborate, please. Me dumb dumb no understand.", "Tax companies more, not consumer, BUT as always companies will push it to customer by increasing their price. We will see price increase for processed products. Raw materials do not get taxed.\nSo lets say a tin of sardine. We only see it as 1 tin. But in the eyes of gst, just that 1 tin consist of 3 things. Manufacturing the tin, printing it and finally the process of making the sardin. Companies normally buy these stuff from factories that produce them which is why the 3 will be taxed separately. Sst only tax the final product which is that 1 tin of sardin. If they employ a different company for transporting the goods, that also will be taxed under gst.\nThats why, when gst was introduced, we see processed food price increased alot.", "But in the eyes of gst, just that 1 tin consist of 3 things. Manufacturing the tin, printing it and finally the process of making the sardin. Companies normally buy these stuff from factories that produce them which is why the 3 will be taxed separately.\nUnder GST, manufacturers will get their GST money back as a rebate after selling the product. The purpose of GST is to reduce money laundering by monitoring each step of production.", "I remember hearing back then about how the government actually fucked this up by just pocketing the money and taking forever (or not at all) paying back the rebate. not sure how true it is tho.", "Not exactly true. It's just that only businesses with over rm500k yearly sales can claim. If you make more than that and the input gst you pay is more than output gst you receive, then you can claim refund on the difference.b", "no i'm pretty sure it wasnt that like there was a bunch of headlines about how the government had several billions worth of GST money they were supposed to pay back but didn't\nEDIT : I did some googling and found it\nhttps://theedgemalaysia.com/article/customs-delayed-gst-refund-process-bn-govt-lacked-money", "Ah my bad, i guess you're talking about the PAC report on the GST refund delays. According to GST act, gst collections are supposed to be deposited into a trust account first to accommodate refunds. Then only can it be transferred into revenue account.\nBut what happened was, it was directly deposited into govt's consolidated revenue account which caused delay to refund claims. Iirc, the tax arrears was settled in 2020.", "If that thing is to create the finished product. Like sardine tin for example, every gst paid to create the sardine and the souce will be claimed back.\nIts like this. Sardin sdn bhd produce the sardin in tin. They only manufacture the sardin and the sauce. So, from process A to B to create the sardin and souce if any gst is paid, they can claim back. BUT, the tin they buy from Ah Tin sdn Bhd. And then sent it to print at Abu print Sdn Bhd. The tin and print is not part of making the sardin and souce, so it is considered as seperate. So cant claim.", "Ah Tin and Abu Print can claim from govt when they sell to Sardin SB. Then Sardin SB can claim when they sell to shops.", "Yes, but sardin sdn bhd cant claim the gst they paid when they bought from ah tin and abu print. Ah tin and abu print do not pay gst because they are sellers. Only buyer pay gst. The gst paid by sardin sdn bhd to ah tin and abu print will be considered as cost for sardin sdn bhd and will be included in the final price of their finished product. And customer will also pay gst when they buy the tinned sardin produced by sardin sdn bhd.\nThis is the reason processed food price went up alot when gst was introduced.", "That's totally wrong. Of course the GST paid by sardin sdb bhd for the tin and the print could be claimed. All GST paid as part of company spending could be claimed. Even if they paid GST for parking, that could be claimed.", "But why does even after SST is bring back the goods still retain their GST price? And now increase abit in name of had too cause now got SST?? If the price goods now isn't paid to gov, who got the money?", "Bro, you just born yesterday? Once price goes up, they wont go down. Simple economics, if with that price people still buy, why want to reduce it. The only thing that can affect price is supply and demand. If supply is high, demand low = price go down. Supply low, demand high = price go up. Google supply demand graph and you will see more clearly how prices move.\nIn other words, to force a company to reduce their price is to stop buying the product.", "So meaning companies got the exyra cash now?????!! Damm the rich get richer the poor get fucked", "Every company motto is reduce cost, maximize profit. That is the foundation of every business. In simple terms, to get as much money as they can from you at their lowest expense.", "A lot of businesses work like this:\nwe increase the price and see if there's any drop in revenue\nif revenue drop we drop back the prices\nif revenue increase then we keep the new price. Less work for more money.\nAll this happens without govt intervention.", "How so ?", "Because GST taxes everything we consume. Out of all those other taxes, only SST has the biggest scope and even then it’s not as big.\nBased on budget 2024, the expected increase from all those tax measures is only about 4b plus. Still way off to bridge the huge gap that GST has over SST." ], [ "Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer\nRich = gomen\nPoor = rakyat", "Govt doesn't get rich dude. It's your politicians. Money that goes into your politicians pocket is not to the govt. Malaysia wouldnt be still a shit hole if the govt has money" ], [ "Dah la2 rasua ke corrupt ke government mmg mkn duit bnyk dripde rkyr Msia\nskrg nk cari scheme baru untuk cover they azz for notorious reasons je, bet2l kite mmg dept tpi cerita x baru. Semkin lme dept ni semkin teruk x recover pun" ], [ "PAS should've lead. they probably were confident enough in their majority that they would not have as terrible of an effect if they implement gst" ], [ "As a tax enthusiast, yes, gov always find way to find money" ], [ "True" ], [ "Gst for the win" ], [ "UBAH! INI KALI LAH!" ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "No one will ever write a piece saying it's Mahafiraun\nEven the fall of the first PH will never mention Mahathir as it's mastermind", "He finally became He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" ], [ "Someone that got tittle Tun and close to 100 year old?", "Tun... ak Tunak Tun?", "Da da da...", "There are two Tun that are in hot seat, one have cases mounting upon him and can't react fiercely and most likely wiretapped, so calling the cavalry from another Tun. The latter, and his family also in the hot seat, so he had to react by all means of necessary. His time is running out as the next King will react against the plot.", "You forgot the part where the next king also have personal beef with the latter Tun.", "The ancient one, Mahafiraun .", "I wonder what is this endgame, He's almost a centenarian and still wants to be PM?", "Give the position to mu mu", "A vampire?" ], [ "Who else besides Tun M and Cronies?" ], [ "Man at this point Tun would be an awesome villain for Marvel/DC show, heck he is more recurring than Kang and Thanos lol" ], [ "Mahathir's Goebbels dah gelabah.\nFor those who are young, Kadir Jasin is Atok's chief propogandist" ], [ "The Mighty Ma, best candidate, unchallengeable capability.", "Which Ma though? The din type or the thir type?", "Din type is weak. Even his party have abandoned him as PM material" ], [ "Obviously it is you know who." ] ]

[ "COVID-19" ]

[ [ "No\nDr Dzulkefly actually opposed MCO even back in 2020, so chances of it happening again is low", "But are there any chances that quarantine inside the country will be ruled out, but boarders will be closed anyway?", "No, the scamdemic is just a global psyops test and done its part. If there is another global lockdown it won't be COVID. Locking down locally for one country will just make the government look like a joke and people will change them immediately.", "It's impossible to have another MCO. The world cannot take another lot lockdown economically unless COVID evolve into zombie infection like resident evil. Also the symptoms are milder and we have vaccines nowadays, it'll be treated like an ordinary flu moving forward.\nTake SARS for example, people used to die in droves too, but eventually it became normal and today we don't lockdown because of SARS anymore. The opportunity is one in a lifetime for those who managed to profit out of it, no need to look back cause it's not going to happen anymore, just like 2008 sub prime crisis is not going to happen in our lifetime anymore.", "SARS had a mortality rate up to 50% compared to about 1.5% for COVID. SARS was almost always symptomatic while COVID infection can be asymptomatic but infectious. SARS was less contagious (r0 0.19-1.08) while COVID is much more contagious (r0 0.4-5.7) was therefore easier to contain and eradicate. SARS never became endemic because it was effectively controlled and eradicated while COVID containment didn't work and has become endemic. Most people have been vaccinated and disease is mild in most people, so lockdown again is quite unnecessary. Our economy will collapse with another strict lockdown. We should practice masking in crowded places and if we are sick. Also practice hand hygiene and self isolate if we are sick. It just common sense and shows concern and care for people who have weak immune system.", "as much as i want to see his word biting his own ass, lockdown probably wont happen. we kindda have herd immunity and vaccine is kindda available." ], [ "Depends on how many infection and how many died ? And No, no MCO hopefully cause the economy can't take it toll if that happened again" ], [ "I’m a believer of science, right now, it’s not necessary at all. Vaccines, the mutation lifecycle of the virus, and the understanding of the virus itself means it’s not necessary. Economically, we know it’s not sustainable too.\nThe first lockdown was necessary scientifically because it was new, without vaccine and it was version 1.0 that was potent.\nRight now I’m at home with Covid and it feels like a mild flu, with a bit of fatigue. Sure, others might feel it more but statistically the science doesn’t point towards any lockdown. When I used to live in a winter country, every winter, everyone would fall sick and there were people who died from it too. They go along, get a flu shot, and live with it.\nCovid will be here for the next 25 to 35 years. This is what the new normal meant. It mutates, have a kick about in the human genome, we find ways to fight it, weaken it, contain it, some pharma bros make loads of money, two life cycles later humans are immuned to it or it turns into yet another strain of the human flu.\nThe question isn’t if there should be a lockdown, it’s whether we are all willing to embrace a new normal, where we adopt better hygiene protocols, certain health protocols, and eventually we’ll have some kind of administer at home booster for when you get Covid or you are part of a cluster. That’s life.\nEdit: There are lots of good scientific information these days about Covid and a few different researches ran simulations on Covid and it showed that most likely it will be around for long, weaken without causing death to almost everyone and if anything, vaccine research would improve exponentially very, very soon with AI machines running the data. Lockdowns and restrictions would be kneejerk reactions that’s disproportionate to the potency of the virus right now." ], [ "Never. MCO destroyed the economy." ], [ "Ask another question:\nIs everyone ready for another MCO? Do we need another MCO?" ], [ "Hurhurhur no. Unless the government wants to ensure RM10 = USD1." ], [ "Imo the cons far outweigh the pros at this juncture for the government to consider MCO, another MCO would be devastating for the B40" ], [ "I want happen" ], [ "Don't know. It is a good question and probably better to be prepared slightly. If the numbers rise, some steps may have to be taken. Although with any luck, this might be a less dangerous variant. But even then, be safe and wear masks and take precautions.", "Shhh...you just angered this whole sub again! I've nvr facepalmed so hard at how ppl invalidated a recent OP who brought it (masks) up when he himself just recently recovered from Covid (again) at the time of writing." ], [ "My family kinda bet it will around Hari Raya..:26562:" ], [ "I think it's unlikely. Suspect the general public won't fancy the idea. Some didn't even bother masking up. But, I could be wrong since I am not an expert." ], [ "I think restricting foreign travellers who brought in the virus is a good idea. Close the borders! But another lockdown would be disruptive, even though personally I want another lockdown to just stay at home and have nothing to do outside and clear out my backlogs of chores, reading and TV drama.", "if you could suggest us some new ebook sites (rip PDFDrive/Z-lib), that'd be great. Also, streaming sites are getting worse with offerings.", "I don't know any e-book sites 😅 I just have a bunch of traditional physical books that I bought or gifted by friends pre-MCO that I didn't touch since MCO. I can't find back the motivation to read, only doomscrolling all day.", "Bro, COVID is everywhere. There's COVID in every country in the world. It also never went away in Malaysia." ], [ "I honestly dont think so, i literally just sold my pc yesterday" ], [ "Time for another EPF withdrawal. Thanks government for free money, my own money." ], [ "Nah" ], [ "Nope not unless hospitals are swamped. I don't think people would even be able to survive another one." ], [ "it’ll never happen for this version covid because it’s not deadly. if it kills 50% of those infected, then yes, but until now, a government is like a business — if most people (aka human capital) are okay, there is not reason to restrict day-to-day life (commerce and the market.\nthere’s never going to be another lockdown unless the virus becomes extremely deadly." ], [ "It's been manageable so far in SG, despite the bigger spike in cases.\nI believe the world will ride out JN.1, which is the dominant strain (winter season) right now. It appears to be more contagious than the previous 2 strains (EG.5 during summer, HV.1 during autumn) but, so far, doesn't seem to pose a bigger threat than the said predecessors from earlier in 2023.\nTouch wood, the infectiousness is merely similar to the seasonal flu which happens every year-end. The inference being, everyone becomes more susceptible due to the colder temperatures & drier air, which affect natural protection against all respiratory germs while making the viruses linger longer on exposed surfaces.\nIf so, we'll just have to wait for the next strain, & see what the virus mutates into.\nThe usual exceptions are, of course, the aged & the immunocompromised, plus the possibility of long Covid for those infected." ], [ "Nope. They will take it serious but won't initiate MCO." ], [ "Look at the rest of the world, who is imposing an MCO? That's it nobody. The ship has sailed." ], [ "Nah, probably not. We have the vaccines n stuff now so it's not really a threat anymore" ], [ "Not really going to happens unless the death rate is hike up to 100 deaths daily.\nMaybe Chinese New year may put some caution to rakyat." ], [ "Not needed at the moment. Field hospital can be set up relatively quickly if needed. We are more well prepared and understand the disease and treatment better now.\nThe story of the original strain when it first hit my city: banker travel back from Italy, ending with 2 whole families dead within weeks. If that doesn’t scare you to put a quick halt of spread I don’t know what to say.", "your family got ended not by the virus but by the hospital malpractice" ] ]

[ "Economy & Finance" ]

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[ [ "Holy shit that's nearly half a billion.\nWe sure do love our chickens.", "It’s the most common or affordable meat in Malaysia. Plus it’s subsidised.\nPagi makan nasi lemak ayam goreng, nasi kandar kari ayam tengah hari, makan malam grilled chicken chop, last last lewat malam maggi ayam goreng mamak." ], [ "but its too late, what they did already caused the chicken prices to go up. food vendors and operators already mark up their food kawkaw, and will not reduce no matter chicken price come down or not. consumers suffer lo", "Consumers can force the market by reduce or stop patronising the eateries.\nCook at home if it is too expensive.\nEither save time eating out because of too busy; or save money cook at home because eating out is too expensive.", "raw food usually not that expensive.\nit is eating outside that is expensive, I dont know why people keep complaining food price towards farmers only but completely ignore restaurant is the one that is most cut throat sector.", "Price of chicken have already dropped significantly (rm15.99 to rm8.99?) but food prices never adjust downwards", "exactly. should boikot those blood suckers" ], [ "I've not seen anyone actually pay their MyCC fine. Have you?" ], [ "Evidence 101 of a cartel in our chicken industry." ], [ "" ], [ "And who gets all these millions? The people who spent it on the chickens or the chickens in the coop?" ], [ "Yang ni monopoli kuat takda pulak korang nak bising.\nTNGO monopoli, fuyo reaction.\nSyed Mokhtar Al Bukahri…..macam-macam tomahan.", "Erm, aku rasa ko x faham maksub monopoli.", "Kau ingat aku bodoh ke!? Time aku kecik aku banyak kali menang monopoli tau. Jangan cabar aku!" ], [ "\"boss, bole kawtim tak?\"" ] ]

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[ "Mildly interesting" ]

[ [ "It was funny the first time, now that everyone knows its an ad its like... idc.", "im kinda invested. who are they, what is going on... even if it is an ad.", "It’s an ad for the pizza store. There are only 2 fake characters in this story.", "The first one is an ad for office space the second one as you said", "Here's a hint, make a sub fill it with your vapid shit and attract the other vapid redditors who think foam snow is real and viral ads are good content and gtfo with this crap. At the very least don't whine about being attacked for posting blatantly false misinformation. Seriously what is wrong with people man.", "Invest in something better. Being invested in it isn't an excuse to spam this sub with your investment." ], [ "To the boss that approved this idea.. good job!\nSuggested something similar to my old-school-cina-brain boss last time, he asked me to stop wasting time think funny thing, continue cold calling and begging for customers" ], [ "r/HailCorporate" ], [ "This post is retained but the one regarding chicken cartel is removed - the priorities 🤌" ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "Whoever that took charge of the Health Ministry all those years ago.\nWe now have a very affordable healthcare system.\nNot a federal minister but the late Lim Chong Eu. He contributed massively into Penang’s success as an electronics manufacturing hub.\nOne from my very own state, the late Adenan Satem. A short stint of 3 years but his governance kickstarted a lot of development and investment. SUPP had him to thank for their turnaround in fortune, after successfully bringing back some Chinese votes.", "I'm a bit on the young side but it's fascinating to see how Gerakan was respected once.\nBasically Lim Chong Eu turned Penang into a silicon valley per se?", "Yep, he identified the electronic industry to fulfil Penang workforce, he convinced fed gov to set up free trade zones in Bayan Lepas after the state lost free port status", "And look at the supply chain now. We have successfully created our own local companies in the semiconductor field — Inari, Vitrox and Pentamaster, to name a few really successful ones.", "Hey, I am pretty young too but you just need to dig a little here and there.\nI respect DAP but up until now, they haven’t done any meaningful visionary projects. All we have been hearing is “waste money” and “bankrupt”.", "Ngl I haven't even heard of Lim Chong Eu until now, hence why I asked.\nSo I don't get what's your comment trying to say? 🤔", "Simple. Never believe in the media and those loud politicians who boast about all the things they did.\nSome quietly do so much.", "we dont need any major ones tbh, the entire Malaysia history is filled with visionary projects that waste more money than generating it.\nhere at Penang, for locals, onr can still see a stark difference from pre 2004 or 2008 and after , the streets are so much more cleaner, my parents always comment on that aspect. Back then, you would gag and disgusted by the rubbish and awful smelling drains everywhere. Now, some places look completely spotless like all those Japan or foreign 4K videos.\nGerakan has been riding on Lim Chong Eu wave for far too long. heck, they would have fallen far earlier if not for balancing act that some voters play back then, fearing state that is not aligned with the government coalition would not get funds. I remember my parents argue back then on who to vote for. My father wanted to vote for BN on state seats and opposition for Federal seats as he feared that Penang being in the opposition would not get funds for development, my mother wanted to all in opposition.", "Yeah because KLCC, North-South Highway, KLIA are all a waste of money isn’t it?\nI remember LKS said that Subang Airport was good enough. How did that turn out? Putrajaya was a waste of money too, according to the same group of politicians. Now?\nGuess clean streets is the only gauge to be a successful politician.", "you are forgetting others, there are much more projects that loss money lmao, even KLCC is a major waste of money that isnt really needed.\nI am not dissing every major projects but we certainly have many that we spent more money maintaining it than value generated", "Of course we do have plenty that lost money.\nMy main point here is, there was an attempt by previous BN ministers to try out these so called projects and initiatives for the future. Yes, we did lose money but we can feel and see the good effects through other projects today. Those that I mentioned were some of them. And also, our electronic industry in general.\nI have yet to see any PH politicians visionary enough to plan for the future. Everything about them now is cut cost, save money. They seem to be happy with maintaining what we have right now without thinking about the future. Well, at least the streets are clean right?", "well yes, because priorities are different now, when we have scandals after scandals of leakages, corruption, excessive spending, and you want them to go for mega projects ? we couldnt even get all the ships we targeted to build for the navy\ni am of the opinion that government should be reorganized, streamlined, change the culture, increase effectiveness and efficiency, set strict ROI requirements and audit before any mega project is allowed. not to say PH currently is doing well in that regard now but i am not interested in mega projects if the government's execution and maintenace is sloppy as before\nand yes, clean street is important just like clean toilets, you may laugh about it but it directly impact everyone that has to experience it. I went to Japan and the street + toilet clealiness leave a lasting impression on me, so does Sinngapore's street.\nthe opposite is true if a place is filthy and to quote Tun M, Penang was the dirtiest state in Malaysia back then", "Welp, you still missed the point.", "Generally 3 career progression paths:\nKabel besar dan kuat.\nAnnounce visionary projects and still have a 50/50 success rate, even after overblown budget and extended timelines. The loud mouth eccentric CEOs of companies.\nManaging things well. The good middle managers that actually run the companies.\nI think DAP is somewhat in the 3 category.", "Really ? Many indicators (unemployment rate, gdp growth, FDI, deficit/debt etc) were very impressive under DAP, even when DAP led Penang as an \"opposition government\". Despite not being in the same political alliance with the national government, Penang transferred state debt to the federal government. Penang implemented open tender for their projects. The Penang Traffic Masterplan, as visionary as a state plan could, was unveiled by DAP. Penang was going to self-fund the LRT project until last minute federal intervention. DAP is not perfect but \"they havent done any meaningful visionary projects\" is so far from the truth", "Transferred debt to federal is considered impressive governance lol Sell land, sell building, also considered FDI?\nCertified LGE bootlicker this one.\nYes. They haven’t done it. Until the day the LRT starts running, it is all talk only LOL", "You clearly have little to no real world experience of being running a job with responsibility. Try to ask your creditor (let alone your enemy) to forgive (let alone take over) your debt and see how easy it can be done. And you clearly have no clues on what's happening and the political complexity of such gargantuan state project. PMTP was actually approved then cancelled by different federal governments, then yet anothet federal government was essentially strong armed into approving it and funding it. It speaks volume to the political will, political ingenuity and financial creativity of penang DAP both CM for this be still alive and actually happening. The true \"all talks\" only person is you who has accomplished nothing in life but enjoy being an armchair pundit with no needs to make things happen. What a waste of time", "Penang was essentially founded by Francis Light. Penang was a freeport since the founding, and Francis Light jealously protected it status. When Francis Light took ownership of Penang, they found only 57 inhabitants in the entire island. Penang was essentially a \"wasteland\". Though prior to Francis Light's founding, Penang was once a Acehnese pirate hotspot and Kedah Sultanante basically launched a major attack and eliminated all the pirates. Since then it became a dead island again, until Francis Light's possession. The rise of Penang was so swift and successful that the Kedah Sultan got jealous, and assemblied a major force in Seberang Prai to attack Penang island, as ships prefer to stop in Penang rather than Kedah, and in just decades Penang population had reached tens of thousands. Kedah's invasion plan was preemptively thwarted by Francis Light, however. But kedah sultan got even more money than originally agreed when Penang island was first ceded.\nSo for centuries, the economy of Penang was built on the freeport status. When Malaya was getting its independence, the government promised that the freeport status would not be altered. However, in 1969, then MCA finance minister Tan Siew Sin decided to turn penang into a custom area (ie losing freeport status). Penang suffered horrendously, with per capita income subsequently dropped below national average and unemployment rate as high as 16%. While credit has to be given to first Penang CM Wong Pow Nee for initiating penang industrialisation project, main credit has to be given to Lim Chong Eu who reversed the decline of Penang and turnd penang into the current industrial powerhouse that she is.", "source for the first paragraph?", "https://archive.org/stream/ashortsketchliv00steugoog/ashortsketchliv00steugoog_djvu.txt", "woah, certainly wasn’t expecting a full text but i’m certainly not complaining :). i’ve recently have had an interest in colonial malaya and i very much appreciate you sharing this with me", "Yup but his successor for Penang CM ruined Gerakan" ], [ "Tun Dr. Ismail , he sacrificed and died for the country and Tun Hussein Onn who did not want to continue staying in office amid all the dirty politicking in Umno.", "Agreed. Also want to add Tun Ghafar Baba. He always remembered his life as a poor orphan and did much good to help others. And he never wanted titles and was only conferred Tun after being asked/begged twice.\nOne more! Adenan Satem. It's a pity we only had him for a short while as CM. He is the people's leader and gave significant changes in Sarawakian's lives. When he died, the whole Sarawak wept. Even non Muslims visited his (very public) grave. One more thing, no one but him has the chutzpah to call the then PM Najib anak Razak and made fun of Najib while he is in attendance using Bahasa Iban/Sarawak. Oooohaaaa!", "It is amazing to me that despite being under an extremely corrupted Taib for so long, the various leaders after him all seem to be decent leaders" ], [ "Its pretty sad that all these years theres only so few worth mentioning" ], [ "Does Gobind Singh qualify?", "Definitely.\nIn addition, that PH 1.0 had some underrated ones like Yeo Bee Yin too - single-handedly took on 3 portfolios and bossed it." ], [ "Daim was actually very good, but he is not friendly or interested in doing things for others. He likes the thrills and challenge of turning things around and making profit, but he need stakes to be kept higher and higher.\nedit: He did things for Mahathir because Mahathir made him who he is. That was why during financial crisis in 1998, Mahathir dumped Anwar as Finance Minister and called back Daim from the wilderness (he was buying and selling banks in Europe at the time) to steer Malaysia safely out of the crisis. So Daim was like yeah OK I will do this but thats all, for old time’s sake and as thank you to Mahathir." ], [ "Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah - Petronas" ], [ "Me, otw", "Good luck man! See you in parliament one day too 😅" ], [ "i can only comment on what I personally experience even though I know there are many ministers that done outstanding job before them.\nGobind Singh, he changed the internet speed and fees to be so much faster and cheaper than before.\nAnthony Loke, no nonsense action man, reorganized SPAD and propose the monthly commuting pass for cheap\nHannah Yeoh, back when she is in family, women and children ministry, recall she pretty hard on female rights, and launch daycare centres at government departments and hospitals\ni want to say Yeoh Bee Yin after watchimg her interview on Solar industry and she sent back the rubbish that cannot be recycled back to their country but her time in ministry is affected by the river pollution problem.", "This shows that as much as people shit on DAP, can't deny they're the most effective party out there currently.\nWould like to hear other opinions though" ], [ "Tengku and his band of freedom fighters who created Malaysia for us and kicked out the penjajah. After them all minister fight who you tell me please." ], [ "Faizal azumu", "lmao", "He is best at mediocrity.. You can deny that" ], [ "najib razak: finance:26554:\njohari abdul ghani: deputy finance\nkj: health", "Najib Razak (First term) is the best PM we ever had\nNajib Razak (Second Term) is also the worst PM we ever had.", "Genuinely did an Erik ten Hag 😅", "KJ ? The man didn’t do anything, overspent and literally had no insight. He just came after the battle and took a bow.", "The government was crambling and buying whatever vaccines was available (that the Rakyat was screaming for) , being able to use over 90% of the supply is praiseworthy IMO.\nI mean... Did anyone really expect 100% utilisation?(the only way this could happen is if we underbought, and then people will die)" ], [ "Lim Guan Eng. He saved us RM8 billion. See who can top that.", "LGE is doing the same thing Penang(under him as MB) was doing all this while\nSell government assets here, cut government spending there.. then claim surplus.", "ask federal to pay restructure penang water debt and pay for the dam upgrade\nalmost never mention it again after a formality speech and blogpost\nhe ( & his supporter) tell everyone how good he was managing money and diss people that help manage their debt at every opportunity\nin retrospect i wonder if najib should pay to solve kelantan problem instead back then:26554:", "Penny wise, pound foolish.\nHis constant “bankrupt” statements did no good. Every time he spoke, Bursa went red.\nBehaved like an opposition the entire time as the FM. Safe to say, he took the bait.", "I'm a DAP fanboy but I felt the those cuts were quite detrimental in the long run though 🤔 especially those that involve transport like MRT & LRT\nI could be wrong", "watch this podcast between tony pua and ong kian ming\nListen to tony pua explain on the LRT and MRT. I used to think lim guan eng was probably a lousy FM. After i watch this podcast i have a slight different opinion. Just slight.", "The thing about Tony Pua is that he makes his arguments solely on the topic of money and money only which is not the only thing important in nation building.\nThe latest episode talking about HSR is a good example. He justifies it being bad by saying the costs to run the thing itself is so high that its better to just give everyone free flights because he used the permutation that if the HSR is run at full capacity x (theoretical cost of ticket), the total revenue is about the same as the total yearly revenue for KL-SG flights. So to him its better to just not spend 100 billion to build the thing and spend 3 billion a year giving everyone free flights.\nBut its so much more than that, there's also spillover development and more importantly to change people's way of life from being totally car dependant to one that is PT oriented\nHe always spoke more like an accountant than a lawmaker imo", "Tony Pua lol.. I lost my trust in him when he used United States to justify SST over GST. He said something like this in Parliament, “Ekonomi no.1, Amerika Syarikat, tak de GST.”\nUSA has the ability to print money and adjust monetary policies with the Fed Funds rate. Not to mention a whole stack of local council tax, state income tax and federal income tax.\nIf Malaysia has any of these, imagine the scenes in Putrajaya.", "I didnt fan boy. Lol. I just want to explain to OP regarding the LRT and MRT.", "Yea I know, just putting my counter argument out cause its kinda easy for anyone to fully believe what Tony says as gospel since he is very articulate", "Accountants (which LGE is also not even) cannot run countries." ], [ "Me as the Minister of Sex", "is that you Chua Soi Lek?" ], [ "Najib Razak" ], [ "Hadi Awang. :26554:" ], [ "Any ministers whom names are easily forgotten and needs time to jog the memories are the best ones. The ones we easily remember are because they caused so much trouble or involved in scandals." ], [ "Samy Vellu, JKR under him was good. Roads were much better and lasted longer, man really changed the landscape of his constituency, Sungai Siput." ] ]

[ "Economy & Finance" ]

[ [ "Survey disguised as a question" ], [ "Commitments:\nnetflix: 10\nspotify: 15\nyoutube prem: 17.90\ndisney plus: 54/3mnts\nunifi: 289.54\ncar (jan 2028): 664\npc installment (nov 2024): 371\nmobile (dec 2024): 190\nstudent loan (2050): 500\ngroceries: ~400\ntotal/mth: RM 2475.44\nM33 single, living with parents still, giga sadge life D;", "Bro if you using Android phone just cancel Spotify, YouTube premium, it's unnecessary to pay when the modded apps are available for free", "You are the only person I know on this whole planet to subscribe to YouTube Premium.", "I subscribe it too..", "LMAO", "Compared to what it costs in the US, RM17.90 is cheap for me", "It's not about the price. RM17.90 is pretty affordable for most people but it is the value. I fail to see the advantages of subscribing to YouTube Premium.", "The biggest advantage to YT Premium is no more ads.", "You can have that by using the Brave browser. I have been using adblockers on Chrome and now Brave browser to avoid ads on YouTube. This is the main reason why YouTube Premium doesn't sell for me.", "I use YT over a phone, a tab, an iPad, and Firestick. Much easier to pay for Premium and have adfree access over any device than whatever brave browser you need to install. I'm also paying for my auntie and she's happy that she doesn't have to listen to ads when she's listening to her opera too.", "what?? i pay less than 6 ringgit a month???", "Can reduce on mobile..no need expensive package due to you probably have WiFi in house already..\nUse XOX prepaid instead... Only RM 10/mth\nCan downgrade the unifi too 100mbps is good enough", "phone plan package, planning to reduce it once I finished paying the contract", "", "Disney+ has natgeo section" ], [ "Patreon (5.00) for content of course 😏", "for culture", "supporting a friend ;)", "GaelForce Audios cough cough", "RM5.00 or USD$5.00?", "Rm" ], [ "I subscribe to Maybank hire purchase, 970 per month. Fml", "What car?", "Vios" ], [ "Digi RM40.", "I’m below 24 so I get the subsidised one only rm20 a month 😙", "How much quota?", "20gb + 1gb hotspot + unlimited social media + unlimited calls", "Oh, ok I didn't miss much" ], [ "Spotify - 10 Tvb - 20 Disney +, Prime, HBO go - on rotation. 30 Netflix - 50" ], [ "Ff14 sometimes, genshin welkin(idk if this counts as subscription)" ], [ "YouTube Premium @ RM17.90/month - I technically only want the music to replace Spotify, but it's inseparable from YouTube so why not?\nMullvad VPN @ 5 euros/month - I don't like being snooped on\nI also used to play WoW for USD15/month. Hmm. Maybe I should pick it up again.", "Any reason why not surfshark? I use that and it’s pretty cheap", "No reason; I just researched the one with the right balance of price, speed, privacy and ethics and Mullvad came out top.", "Since you’re already using vpn, why not sub YouTube from another country? I sub from Argentina for RM3 per month", "I could, it just feels like it's such a hassle. I have a (uncorroborated) feeling that Google already knows where I live, so if I suddenly subscribed from Argentina they might go \"aw hell no\" 😅\nI mean, wouldn't it be weird that my IP is only Argentine when I'm subscribing, and at all other times I'm in Selangor?\nBut mostly it's just laziness." ], [ "Spotify family RM23.90 monthly\nNetflix standard RM45 monthly\nDisney+ Hotstar RM54.90 every 3 months\nThe Star ePaper RM150 annually\nMicrosoft 365 ~RM200 every 15 months\nI consider my phone and Internet as bills and not subscriptions.", "The only reoccurring bill payment I currently have is phone bills hahaha! So lumped it together with subscriptions.", "Is Disney worth it?", "I like Star Wars and the occasional Marvel contents so I'm in the target market. And many parents would have no choice because their kids would want to watch Disney and Pixar contents. But otherwise, hard sell admittedly. Also we don't get the actual Disney+ like in the States, but a localised version called Disney+ Hotstar, so there are some local contents. But this also means no feature parity with Disney+. Heck, it just got multiple profile selection few days ago.\nStill, though, just around 220 a year is quite a good deal for people like me.", "Dude wanna share microsoft 365 account?", "Naah, I'm out of shares." ], [ "OnlyFa...ahem Youtube Premium RM17.90/mth Spotify RM15.90/mth Netflix RM55/mth Playstation Plus RM460/yr Microsoft 365 RM219/yr", "No family plan for Spotify/ YouTube premium?", "nope, I am the only one in my family using these online services.", "Is YT music not good enough that u still subs spotify?", "I subcribe YT premium mostly for the ad free feature. The YT music's algorithm is meh, and it don't support as many platform as spotify does e.g. ps5, watch OS. Plus, YT music UI really need some improvement." ], [ "Spotify and chatgpt plus. About 130/month.\nStudent/part time programmer so its worth it.", "I’m a data scientist and damn ChatGPT saved my life. Defs worth it 👍" ], [ "Youtube Premium @ RM17.90 monthly\nMicrosoft 365 Family @ RM359.00 yearly", "You can buy Microsoft 365 from local retailers instead. They sell for around 200 and it will still add 15 months to your subscription.", "Damn it! Should have done more research about it..", "Or you could just use Microsoft 365 the online trial version infinitely, just saying", "It would be headache to manage all the accounts trial rotation", "All of it is at once, no need to rotate between applications\nhere check it out if this could fulfill your needs\nWell technically you won't OWN the programs, but you should be able to USE it for free" ], [ "Paul Cassidy OF,Matt Convard OF,Matt Rife OF.\nYeah ik gay cornstars. Total RM78.90 / Month. Paul cassidy have tier. I sub the Gay tier.", "Damn that’s a huge amount. But heck as long as our money brings us joy 😌" ], [ "Youtube premium (33.9), spotify family (24.9), icloud cheapest (3.9)\n= 62.7", "I wanted to switch to YouTube music cause it’s more worth it. But I couldn’t give up Spotify 🥲" ], [ "Youtube premium at 17.90 (I could listen to podcast w/o ads on my phone or listen to music at YT Music and my children can watch YT Kids on our TV). I've been meaning to change to Durioo+ but too pricey.\nCelcom at 90 + 200 (unlimited data for home fibre and I also paid for my line & my mom's line also unlimited data)", "Durioo+ is expensive plus not enough content." ], [ "Youtube Premium (33.90 for 6 pax) and Netflix" ], [ "cat food. i am now in charge of 3 cats. cost me around 300 monthly.\nstrays get the balance food that they dont finish. considering to send the female strays for neutering when theyre older.\nalso if anyone wants to sponsor cat food for the strays i m willing to accept.", "I have a dog as well. We feed her rice and chicken. Vet says it’s healthier cause no sodium + whatever else is added into dog food. It’s cheaper too perhaps you can consider it just that it’s more effort to cook", "You can also buy unwanted parts like chicken butt, organs etc which may be cheaper", "thats true. just that i m taking care of them myself, kinda got forced into the situation where they became my responsibility. cooking, grocery shopping etc can take up time and effort, so my best compromise was just getting cat food directly. it might sound like an excuse and i can tell you directly i m lazy. but i ensure that at the very least my 3 cats are fed well before handing out the leftovers to the strays.", "No judgement! Love that you’re feeding strays as well 🥰 whatever fits our lifestyle honestly. My mom cooks it. If it were up to me, I work full time soo wouldn’t have the time to do it either." ], [ "Arr arr arr arr arr arr arr" ], [ "YouTube Premium Family, some Patreons of YouTubers I watch, some YouTube memberships, Discord Nitro\nI'm personally not responsible for paying for Spotify but we also have Spotify Premium Familly." ], [ "Spotify family : rm3.9/month\nNetflix family : rm8/month\nYoutube premium family : rm7/month\nAdobe illustrator (ipad) : rm60/month\nNintendo switch online family : rm5/month\nOthers subscription : uh when needed" ], [ "Genshin welkin: rm20\nUmobile: rm38\nPatreon: rm75\nMedical card: rm140\nSanford guide: rm100/year" ], [ "Myself personally:\niCloud RM 3.90\nApple Music RM 16.90\nRealDebrid RM 45.00 every 3 months" ], [ "phone plan rm20? wtfff", "If you’re below 24, there are prepaid plan subsidised by the government.\nFor rm20 I’m getting 20gb + 1gb hotspot + unlimited social media + unlimited calls.\nReally great deal honestly and young people should take advantage of this. But many I know are put off cuz “prepaid seems shitty”." ], [ "Spotify: RM15.90/month\nNetlfix: RM45/month\nPrime: RM 12/month (sharing with friend)\niCloud: RM3.90/month\nMaxis: RM165/month (got shared line)\nGrab/Shopee Paylater: every month maybe RM50-100", "Don’t use spaylater. There are hidden fees." ], [ "YouTube Premium (MYR 17.9) - benci tengok iklan. ReVanced is not available on PC.", "Ublock origin + sponsor blocked" ], [ "Youtube premium family plan. Other streaming come with unipi subs+netflix full hd. Also pay for prime rm25. So got saving a lot also. Hahaha. Oh vpn for accessing other country content.\nWill stop spotify since i use youtube music more. Will end on jan 2024." ], [ "Spotify Rm15, Prime Rm19.40, Netflix rm40+, Hbo rm40+, Patreon usd20, youtube rm17.90." ], [ "Alldebrid for RM15.00 and 1TB seedbox for RM20" ], [ "Its crazy how ppl here still use YT premium. I literally just use Revanced Extanded or just YT revanced. Why wasting money on YT when you can use modded one for free" ], [ "Spotify:15\nMaxis: 129\nicloud:3.90\nGoogle One: 9\nWar Thunder: idfk anymore😔" ], [ "YouTube Premium 11/month iCloud and google storage is tempting but I have to keep paying every month which is ridiculous." ] ]

[ "Politics" ]

[ [ "Amanah's in a precarious position" ], [ "so whats amanah strategy?\nwhatever pkr/dap tells us to do lmao:26554:", "Actually taking care of their constituency or state seats hopefully." ] ]

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[ [ "The Streisand Effect in action, baby." ], [ "will that particular group complain “eh completely wrong representation of who’s the pendatang!? know your place don’t provoke”?", "Either that or, \"ko tgk, ini lah yg cina babi akan buat bila mereka berkuasa\"" ] ]

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[ [ "Malaysia truly Asia was a good tagline, but we treat (white) foreigners way better than our own countrymen. We bend over backwards to accommodate some guests, but can’t even extend the same courtesy to our neighbours.", "", "Malaysians fellating every mid white guy that decides to be a vlogger in Malaysia intensifies", "Korean food bloggers also get fellated pretty hard", "Then incoming, ‘mat salleh dok msia 2 hari pun bOleH caKaP baHaSA, tapi bangsa C masih tak tahu ckp’ /s", "It's OK bro...the whitey said apa khabar...auto men and women jizzed", "So are you \"not like the others\" or how good is your sloppy toppy?", "Yet another guy surprised that money makes people compromise with things they'd rather not deal with....\nEver wonder why your boss pays you a salary?\nThe answer may shock you.", "I sense an irony in the Force lol.\nIt sounds like a million bosses paying their employees that they would rather not know too well. lol.", "Yup. I don't remember which asian country, but they tried to dispute the tagline and if we still as it is we probably gonna lose the tagline", "we treat (white) foreigners way better than our own countrymen.\nAs a white guy, press X to doubt. Million things you can do legally that I never will. And that includes things like opening a bank account or changing job (at my level I have people for that, but that's not due to my race.).\nI mean yeh you treat white tourists better than viet tourists: little known fact, the west is slightly richer than vietnam so money-making merchants will tend to be more polite to the guy with more money.\nA chinese billionaire will also be better treated than a middle class white dude. It's ...all so strange... It's like...\"racism\"...but based on money...\nVery mysterious.", "Fuck off retard. You motherfuckers are treated as gods because of your skin color regardless of your economic status. And the only reason we're having such a mindset is because of the fact you fucks coming over here and turning our country this way with your dividing and conquering the country and treating us like shit for decades. If you think not being able to open a bank account feels discriminatory, you can go suck a dick", "lmao, most chill monyet, did a mat salleh steal your girlfriend or something lol?\nYou motherfuckers are treated as gods because of your skin color regardless of your economic status\nNo, above poster is right, go read any comment section of a begpacker article, no one is treating them like gods, in fact the opposite, they want them deported, it's clearly economic.\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/10qmg1a/begpackers_who_allegedly_beg_for_weeks_6/\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/10zh68h/these_fuckers_started_to_use_our_mrt_stations_as/\nhttps://old.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/y9g3vh/begpackers_draw_scorn_of_city_residents/\nturning our country this way\nThe British left 70 years ago dude, at what point do we start blaming ourselves for how the country is?", "I think you mistaken Malaysian with Singapore", "No, I don't think so. Same DNA after all.", "Didn't realize we also have SPGs and SPBs too", "depend on which foreigner lol" ], [ "Multiculturalracism" ], [ "I'm not sure if it ever has been, despite all the initial 'multi-ethnic society' branding. I've visited places with a more diverse melting pot of cultures that don't try to shove their multiculturalism into their marketing.", "The difference is between other countries and Malaysia is by the second and third generation everyone assimilated to a certain common culture\nBut in Malaysia you can have people who have people who have lived in the same land for 5+ generations but still have very different diversities of values, language, cultural norms etc etc", "The difference is between other countries and Malaysia is by the second and third generation everyone assimilated to a certain common culture\nAssimilation within 2-3 generations without bloodshed is a myth\nCompare the Kelantanese and the Johor Malays. Both are Malays but practice very different dialects and have quite varied cultural norms.\nThere will always be differences. But if we keep dividing ourselves by our differences I bet you we will only become more and more particular about those differences.", "You are comparing two local ethnic while assimilation here is meant for the foreign ethnic.\nA more valid comparison is between the peranakan cina in terengganu and the cina in kl and penang.\nThe chinese in kelantan, terengganu, melaka, kedah, have successfully assimilated with the local culture without losing their \"base\" heritage.\nThey are still chinese and not melayu, and their religion is still buddha not islam.\nIts a similar situation in indonesia, the chinese in java has assimilated into the javanese culture, in sumatera with the melayu/palembang/batak, and sulawesi with the bugis/manado, etc.", "A more valid comparison is between the peranakan cina in terengganu and the cina in kl and penang.\nYou're comparing communities with different base entry dates.\nThe peranakan have been here for centuries and have intermarried with the local community over generations.\nThe more recent influx just preceding merdeka don't have the benefit of intermarriage (different marriage laws), unified neutral and competitive schooling systems or multiple generations of gradual integration.\nDEB has done its damage.\nThe chinese in kelantan, terengganu, melaka, kedah, have successfully assimilated with the local culture without losing their \"base\" heritage.\nWhat you're describing is closer to integration. Not assimilation. Assimilation is where you shed your base heritage and form a homogeneous whole.\nAlso not true.\nAlso Chinese population Kelantan 2.5% Terengganu 5% Melaka 20% Kedah 12%\nMelaka is quite similar to KL in terms of integration/assimilation. I don't know on what basis you just lumped them here.\nKedah Chinese used to be quite integrated. But nowadays, it's different. You'll see neighborhoods in kedah are now increasingly less diverse. You can thank DEB again.\nTerengganu and kelantan are few in number. You'll need to ask them to blink if they're ok.\nIts a similar situation in indonesia, the chinese in java has assimilated into the javanese culture, in sumatera with the melayu/palembang/batak, and sulawesi with the bugis/manado, etc.\nAnd there was intense bloodshed before this happened. In Indonesia.\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1998_riots_of_Indonesia\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366\nTouting Indonesia as the gold standard speaks volumes about the type of nation building you have in mind.\nUltimately,there's no forcing unity. It must come from a shared vision for a greater nation. But we've lost that. We even have people who want to stamp out all that is different and unique for homogeneity.", "I think a more correct statement is \"vernacular school system had done its damage\".\nBase date entry and intermarriage doesnt matter that much. What about others that migrate here during colonial times or after merdeka that has successfully integrated with the local community?\nMelaka is somewhat in the middle ground of 50/50. Theres a high number of peranakan not just chinese but also the indian ceti and serani. And at the same time also has major \"china\" chinese population.\nDespite already being 2nd or 3rd generation these chinese still insist on being part of china instead of integrating with the locals.\nTerengganu and kelantan are few in number. You'll need to ask them to blink if they're ok.\nYeah because the for hundreds of years they have been enslaved, tortured, killed, extort, and many other atrocities being comitted and yet magically they are still alive and living harmoniously.\nEven during the darkest moment like 13th mei there was no riot or any bloodshed occur in both Kelantan and Terengganu.\nI never said indonesia is the gold standard but they are the closest which is why i use them as reference.\nLike it or not assimilating or integrating with the local majority is a must for a nation to move forward as one. If it cant happen peacefully then chances are it would happen throught bloodshed.\nNot just in indonesia but also thailand, philippines, vietnam, china, etc.\nTrue unity cant be forced, but without it there is no way for a nation to succeed.\nThere is no \"aku , kau\" just \"kita\".", "And there was intense bloodshed before this happened. In Indonesia.\nNot in Java. Here's a letter from Hongkong from the colonial era and here's the earliest (while being Chinese-aimed) newspaper we know of to include a version of the present national Anthem. The only Chinese-related riot I can think of in Java that predates this was the Chinezenmoord. In fairness you'd even find Mat Sallehs slipping sentences (or in this case singing) in Malay and Javanese in those days so make of that what you will lol.\nOn Sumatra and Borneo (and to, as seen here, at times similar complaints to the Malaysian internet) otoh you actually still find people speaking Chinese (and non-Chinese people not speaking a form of Malay natively themselves to begin with). Afaik this leaves Indonesian plaing a role more similar to English than Malay in Malaysia, so ig not a one-to-one example to copy over there in any case.", "Yes, it's difficult to assimilate properly when you are literally classified as second or third-class citizens, isn't it? Is that what you're trying to say? What use is learning the language when it doesn't even guarantee your enrollment in a public university? Or worse, straight-As students getting rejected because of the BS bumi \"quotas\". Why contribute to a society that literally uses your hard-earned money to take care of a bunch of religious extremists who want to strip away your rights?\nI'm sure you have a very reasonable excuse for this?", "Chill out, I agree with you\nBut I’m just trying to point out the differences in how it works in others and us", "I ain't even mad, I'm just pointing out the flaws in your statement. Heard this argument so many times, but none can give me a good answer when I question them back.", "I’m not here to debate about who is a second class citizen or not so all the best", "No one is debating who's the second-class citizen here, that's literally already a known fact. You are arguing that the nons don't assimilate properly because of whatever reason you're trying to portray here. I'm telling you that when you have systematic racist policies coming from the top-down, this has to be the only reasonable reaction one could expect, no?", "chill bro. Use sarcastic comment better.\nExample: Every Malaysian who speak BM well can get Bumi status.", "There’s inequality even amongst bumis.", "Every bumis who speak BM well can get a spouse. /s", "Chillax", "Yes, it's difficult to assimilate properly when you are literally classified as second or third-class citizens, isn't it?\nI mean that is what happen when most people tend to forgot history, that is what happen when the founding parties were more inclined with their own ethnic line and keen to preserve it.\nWhy do people think many of our neighbours dont have the same major problem we have? Because they didnt care, the \"minorities\" would stick to the national identity or die trying.\nThat is what happen to the southern phillipines, that is what happen to southern thailand, that is what happen to indonesia, that is what happen to singapore.\nIf people dont want the bumi policy to still be implemented then they should tow the line of national identity that is dictated by the majority. But the forefathers didnt want that, and now they moan why they should be malaysian when they are treated as \"second class\" citizens.\nThere is no apparently give and take, you assume that their hard earned money is used to take away their rights. Why do you even think religious extremist happen anyway? Just like your argument that why they should assimilate when they got nothing in return would just give cause to the extremists to grow, in excuse of them not assimilating. Its a circular problem.\nI mean just look at the national language issue, either you do or you dont even then it get politicise. The bumis arent the only ones with \"woe is me\" syndrome.", "I mean that is what happen when most people tend to forgot history, that is what happen when the founding parties were more inclined with their own ethnic line and keen to preserve it.\nSuggesting that ethnic strife is a result of forgetting history or ethnic groups clinging to their identity is veering dangerously close to excusing policies akin to apartheid. Are you sure that's the message you're trying to convey?\nWhy do people think many of our neighbours dont have the same major problem we have? Because they didnt care, the \"minorities\" would stick to the national identity or die trying.\nDidn't care? Now you're straight up talking from your behind. The claim that our neighbors don’t face major ethnic problems due to minority assimilation is blatantly wrong. I mean dude you don't even have to look that far, Thailand's Malay-Muslim insurgency - ongoing since the 50s and increasingly violent in the last two decades. The Malays up north are straight up bombing and killing people because they want to preserve their cultural identity and autonomy. So your argument really has zero weight here.\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Thailand_insurgency#Background_of_the_insurgency\nIf people dont want the bumi policy to still be implemented then they should tow the line of national identity that is dictated by the majority. But the forefathers didnt want that, and now they moan why they should be malaysian when they are treated as \"second class\" citizens.\nThe whole idea that people should just forget their identity and blend in with the majority to avoid unfair treatment is absurd. The idea that minorities should simply fall in line with a majority-dictated national identity is even more ridiculous, especially in a multicultural society like Malaysia. Blaming the forefathers for not assimilating is a reductive view, you're simply ignoring the genuine grievances about unequal treatment and rights, which are legitimate issues in any society striving for fairness and equality.\nThere is no apparently give and take, you assume that their hard earned money is used to take away their rights. Why do you even think religious extremist happen anyway? Just like your argument that why they should assimilate when they got nothing in return would just give cause to the extremists to grow, in excuse of them not assimilating. Its a circular problem.\nWhy extremism happen, that's for another discussion. I'm talking about people who perceive their financial contributions as being funneled into policies and practices they find unjust, a real sense of disenfranchisement and the feeling that one's contributions are not leading to equitable societal benefits. We're discussing assimilating a multicultural society like Malaysia, characterizing the entire situation as a circular problem oversimplifies the dynamics at play. The real challenge lies in creating a society where diverse identities can coexist, where differences are respected, and where policies are fair and inclusive. Ignoring these nuances and framing the issue as a simple cause-and-effect scenario, as you did, shows that you're merely an apologist for the bumi policies.\nI mean just look at the national language issue, either you do or you dont even then it get politicise. The bumis arent the only ones with \"woe is me\" syndrome.\nLearning the language or culture means nothing if you’re still going to be sidelined by discriminatory policies like the bumi quotas. It's like being in a rigged game where the rules change based on who you are, not what you achieve.", "Suggesting that ethnic strife is a result of forgetting history or ethnic groups clinging to their identity is veering dangerously close to excusing policies akin to apartheid. Are you sure that's the message you're trying to convey?\nBecause that is what is happening. This accusation of the bumis as if they are the sole reason for the state of the country is unbecoming.\nHow is it excusing policies? I am stating that the policy inacted by the founding parties of malaya which consists of major representation of the three races that causes the problem we have today. Your tone of only accusing the bumis is what makes it a point of forgetting history.\nThe only message I got from your reply is \"bumi is bad\", while I am merely stating the state of the current situation is at play because the actions taken by all the races in the pasts. The decision to toe with racial line, highlighting that is is a matter of not simply the malay are the cause of all their suffering.\nBut then again the \"woe is me\" crowd seems to not only infected the bumi community but also others as well. At least the bumi acknowledge the fact that their actions brought this state of affairs.\nI mean dude you don't even have to look that far, Thailand's Malay-Muslim insurgency - ongoing since the 50s and increasingly violent in the last two decades.\nThat is what I meant that they didnt care, they forcefully assimilate the minorities that led to violence of forced assimilation.\nThe Malays up north are straight up bombing and killing people because they want to preserve their cultural identity and autonomy. So your argument really has zero weight here\nIt does hold weight, your argue that let me rephrase \"why should we assimilate if we are treated as second class citizens\". Because the other side of the coin is what happen to the phillipines, to thailand and to indonesia.\nThat is why I say you forego history to why thinks the way it is right now. Is it the best outcome? Of course not, but it is the best that could be established now.\nJust like how our history tackle the racial issue by talking and using diplomacy, I highlighted this fact because you seem to gloss over that. That assimilation, is something that our neighbours does while we didnt.\nThe whole idea that people should just forget their identity and blend in with the majority to avoid unfair treatment is absurd.\nNo if that is the case we would have follow our neighbours ways. But we did not, nobody is telling you to forget their identity. But that is the problem isnt it? You just want your cake and eat it too.\nespecially in a multicultural society like Malaysia. Blaming the forefathers for not assimilating is a reductive view, you're simply ignoring the genuine grievances about unequal treatment and rights, which are legitimate issues in any society striving for fairness and equality.\nI am not blaming the forefather for not assimilating, I want to bring forth that the non bumis forget why the forefathers reach the agreement in the first place and how those agreement is affecting the current setting we see ourselves at right now.\nYou argue about genuine grievance of unequal treatement and rights but ignore the genuine grievance unequal economic and standard of living that bumis have is very conveying. Ignoring that fact while uplifting the former is reductive in view as well doesnt it?\nThere is a reason why during the early stage of the pre independent malaya there was grivance of territory simply becoming a chinese colony. Records had shown that before ww2, especially that the ratio of chinese to malay in malaya was nearly 50%. There is a reason why this fear exist, being a stranger in their own land and that fear persist to this day. Especially with the seemingly lack of assimilation cultivate this view even more.\nI'm talking about people who perceive their financial contributions as being funneled into policies and practices they find unjust, a real sense of disenfranchisement and the feeling that one's contributions are not leading to equitable societal benefits\nAt this point I do agree. The policy inacted does perpatuate this sentiment. But the policy itself is the product of toeing the racial line. Which further perpatuate those feeling which further perpatuate the policies inacted.\nThe real challenge lies in creating a society where diverse identities can coexist, where differences are respected, and where policies are fair and inclusive. Ignoring these nuances and framing the issue as a simple cause-and-effect scenario, as you did, shows that you're merely an apologist for the bumi policies.\nAn apologist? No I am acknowledging this history, while you gloss it to simply focus on the \"present\" but ignoring why the bumis feel the way they are. You say I ignore nunaces, but you deny why the bumis perspective of the matter doesnt help your cause. When I stated the reason for the bumi policies you accuses me of being an apologist. How is that ignoring nuances, your statement literally ignore nuances.\nYou want the bumis to relent, learn why they put it in the first place. But you dont do that. You want to fight for your cause but you dont want to learn your opponents. In the end the problem still persists because your argument is merely one sided.\nLearning the language or culture means nothing if you’re still going to be sidelined by discriminatory policies like the bumi quotas. It's like being in a rigged game where the rules change based on who you are, not what you achieve\nAnd that is why your argument is a lost cause. You want the discriminatory policies to be repealed but dont want to see the reason why it happen. To solve that you need to also solve the reasons to why the policy is implimented in the first place. But you dont, you just want what best for you. And that is folks is what is happening in this country. Everyone just wants the best for themselves and that is the reason why things wouldnt change.\nYou want to simply blame the bumis for this problem is simply in your words \"reductive in view\". That is why I pointed out that nobody is wanting to give and take anymore, no more using diplomacy.\nIt takes two to tango, at least I know the bumi policy has far reaching consequences. In fact even the malays know this, but why do they have to care? How do you want to have a fair and equal malaysia when things like the national language is mocked. You want the bumis to care about your woes but refuse the same is \"reductive in view\".", "It's funny how you keep mentioning who are to blame for bumi policies, like it's some kind of valid excuse for ongoing disparities. The issue is never about blaming bumis; it's about addressing systemic inequalities that have persisted and evolved over time. Remembering history shouldn't mean accepting unequal policies indefinitely.\nThe only message I got from your reply is \"bumi is bad\"\nOh wow, now you're putting words in my mouth to support your own argument? How mature of you? I criticized two things in my replies, Bumi \"POLICIES\" & Religion Extremist. Please point out exactly where did I mention bumi is bad or any meaning like that.\nThat is what I meant that they didnt care, they forcefully assimilate the minorities that led to violence of forced assimilation.\nThe violence and unrest in Southern Thailand are not because minorities didn't care to assimilate; it's precisely because they were forced into a national identity that didn't respect their cultural and religious distinctiveness. You get it now?\nNo if that is the case we would have follow our neighbours ways. But we did not, nobody is telling you to forget their identity. But that is the problem isnt it? You just want your cake and eat it too.\nYou outright stated, \"If people don't want the bumi policy, they should toe the majority's line on national identity.\" Now, are you backtracking? And let's get this straight – asking for fairness and justice is now seen as wanting a slice of the pie? What an implication! Are you insinuating that Malaysia was solely built by the Malays? What am I missing here? Are you actually suggesting that non-bumis don’t deserve their share? And make up your mind: did the non-bumis control the economy to such an extent that bumis were left at a disadvantage, necessitating government intervention with policies to level the playing field, or did the non-bumis contribute so insignificantly that they don't warrant a share of the pie? Your stance is riddled with contradictions.\nThat is why I say you forego history to why thinks the way it is right now. Is it the best outcome? Of course not, but it is the best that could be established now.\nMaintaining the status quo can only benefit one group, guess who? Acknowledging the historical context of the bumi policy is essential, but it doesn't mean the policy should remain unchallenged if it perpetuates inequality. The goal should be to evolve these policies in a way that reflects current societal needs and ensures fairness for all, not just maintain them because they were agreed upon in the past.\nYou argue about genuine grievance of unequal treatement and rights but ignore the genuine grievance unequal economic and standard of living that bumis have is very conveying. Ignoring that fact while uplifting the former is reductive in view as well doesnt it?\nIt's a false dichotomy to suggest that addressing the grievances of non-bumis necessarily means ignoring the challenges faced by bumis. This is what is wrong with you, in your mind it's a zero-sum game, it's either the bumis or the nons.\nThe goal in a just society should be to uplift all communities without perpetuating racial biases or discrimination. Why should we suppress the minorities if we want to uplift the bumis? Suggesting that policies favoring bumis are justified because of their economic disadvantage ignores the fact that not all bumis are economically disadvantaged and not all non-bumis are economically advantaged. And unless the Malays are mentally challenged at birth, I really don't see a reason why race plays a part in an uplifting program at all. Your argument is way too weak and myopic.\nAn apologist? No I am acknowledging this history, while you gloss it to simply focus on the \"present\" but ignoring why the bumis feel the way they are. You say I ignore nunaces, but you deny why the bumis perspective of the matter doesnt help your cause. When I stated the reason for the bumi policies you accuses me of being an apologist. How is that ignoring nuances, your statement literally ignore nuances.\nAcknowledging history is important, but using it as a crutch to support current unequal policies is where your problem lies. It's not about glossing over the past or ignoring the perspective of bumis. Clinging to historical justifications for policies that continue to perpetuate inequality today is not acknowledging history; it's being trapped by it.\nYour stance imply that critique of bumi policies amounts to ignoring bumi perspectives or their historical grievances. This is a false narrative. Recognizing the historical context doesn't mean we should accept ongoing inequalities as unchangeable. It’s entirely possible to understand and empathize with the historical struggles of bumis, yet still advocate for reforming policies that no longer serve a fair and equitable purpose.\nYou accuse others of ignoring nuances, yet your argument does exactly that by failing to recognize the need for these policies to evolve. It’s not about being an apologist or not; it’s about whether you're willing to look critically at the present implications of past decisions. Just because a policy had a certain rationale in the past doesn’t mean it remains valid or fair in the current context.\nYou want to simply blame the bumis for this problem is simply in your words \"reductive in view\". That is why I pointed out that nobody is wanting to give and take anymore, no more using diplomacy.\nIt seems like you have trouble making the distinction between criticizing bumi policies and blaming the bumi community. The focus of the critique is on the policies, not the people. The argument isn't about assigning blame to the bumi community as a whole; it's about challenging the fairness and current relevance of certain policies that happen to be labeled as 'bumi policies.'\nAnd that is why your argument is a lost cause. You want...\nThe argument isn't about ignoring the reasons behind bumi policies; it's about recognizing that clinging to outdated policies in the name of history is holding Malaysia back. It's not a lost cause to demand fairness and equity. This isn't about blaming bumis; it's about challenging a system that perpetuates inequality. Advocating for change is part of a healthy democracy, not a refusal to give and take. A fair and equal Malaysia needs policies that reflect its diverse reality, not just the interests of one group. It's about creating a society where everyone's rights and contributions are valued, not just those of a select few.\nIt's evident that your perspective is a direct result of years of political manipulation that it made you so obtuse that you failed to see the issue at hand, when challenges to the bumiputera policies are mistakenly seen as attacks on the Bumi/Malay community, a narrative you seem to have bought into. This is a narrow viewpoint and fails to recognize the difference between questioning a policy and targeting a community. It's sad that you have such a myopic understanding of what's essentially a broader issue of fairness and equality in policy-making.", "You accuse others of ignoring nuances, yet your argument does exactly that by failing to recognize the need for these policies to evolve. It’s not about being an apologist or not; it’s about whether you're willing to look critically at the present implications of past decisions. Just because a policy had a certain rationale in the past doesn’t mean it remains valid or fair in the current context.\nNo, I do see the policy the need to evolve. That is why kept on banging about diplomacy. That is why I kept on saying that for it to be repealed something of worth should be implimented as well. But you dont seem to address that, you just want it to be repealed and that is that. What does the bumis get in return for appealing the policy?\nJust look at the Jawi issue. If you cant recognise the problem with that, then what is the point of them relenting? To them it is not a win-win situation.\n\"Just because a policy had a certain rationale in the past doesn’t mean it remains valid or fair in the current context.\" But it does help to formulate a path to go foward. But you are ven refusing to acknowledge that ratiomale in tbe first place so how do you want it to be valid and fair, when you are ignoring the other side of the coin.\nYour stance imply that critique of bumi policies amounts to ignoring bumi perspectives or their historical grievances. This is a false narrative. Recognizing the historical context doesn't mean we should accept ongoing inequalities as unchangeable. It’s entirely possible to understand and empathize with the historical struggles of bumis, yet still advocate for reforming policies that no longer serve a fair and equitable purpose.\nI do apologise if that is what my stance seem to be thought of. But that is not the case, critique it all you want, I want it to better as well. But you are ignoring the bumi perspective and their historical grievances, you are not recognising the historical context and that is the problem.\nYou keep on parroting reforming policies and being fair, while ignoring the context, how can it be fair? You want to address the non bumis woe but ignoring the bumis perpsective on the matter. How would the bumis accept that? You want it be equitable to the non bumis, that is a fair point. But to what way are you addresing the bumis side of the problem. The challenges isnt as simple as number on a piece of paper.", "It's funny how you keep mentioning who are to blame for bumi policies, like it's some kind of valid excuse for ongoing disparities.\nOh really? Now you are putting words in my mouth. I stated why the bumi policy was implemented. You ignore the why. That is why I pointed it out.\nThe issue is never about blaming bumis; it's about addressing systemic inequalities that have persisted and evolved over time. Remembering history shouldn't mean accepting unequal policies indefinitely.\nReally? Because you are only addressing the only one side of the spectrum. That is what I am arguing against you. Remembering history shouldnt mean accepting unequal policy. But you ignore history to why it was implemented in the first place. Does not addressing the root cause of the friction of the bumi place. As such you are only making excuses for non bumi and not getting the reason why the policy was implemented.\nAs I had stated again and again you want to reverse the bumi policy? Learn why the bumi implemented it in the first place. But you dont, that is why I argue you wouldnt achieve much by being one sided.\nBumi \"POLICIES\" & Religion Extremist. Please point out exactly where did I mention bumi is bad or any meaning like that.\nI mean being treated as third class citizens? Really now? I dont rememver not allowing the non bumi to vote, nor restricting their citizenship. But hey you didnt mentioan it right, just explicitly implying towards it.\nThe violence and unrest in Southern Thailand are not because minorities didn't care to assimilate; it's precisely because they were forced into a national identity that didn't respect their cultural and religious distinctiveness. You get it now?\nIt is not because the minorities didnt care to assimilate, it is because the government doesnt care about the minority. That is the reason why they are force to being assimilate in the first place. But hey third class citizens right?\nYou outright stated, \"If people don't want the bumi policy, they should toe the majority's line on national identity.\" Now, are you backtracking?\nNo I didnt, read it as the whole context. In the same reply I touched upon how neighbouring countries uses it as a a way for forced assimilation. We didnt, we used diplomacy. Give and take, but people seems to not want that. As such that is why the course of action in that context would be consider as toeing the majority line on national identity.\nAnd make up your mind: did the non-bumis control the economy to such an extent that bumis were left at a disadvantage, necessitating government intervention with policies to level the playing field, or did the non-bumis contribute so insignificantly that they don't warrant a share of the pie? Your stance is riddled with contradictions\nYes, you forget that the country has only been independent for less than 65 years and that matter of fact wouldnt just be a bygone thing. The non bumis household income in 1976 was twice that of the malays, the household poverty was twice of that the chinese and less of that of indian household. The same decade also shows that while 70% of the land use is owned by foreign entity, the ones owned by asian are the rest. Of that the chinese owns twice the amount, in comparison to the malay.\nThis is due to the system in place, the dual economic system that rely on the malays to do the traditional work of farming, fishing etc.\nMy stance is lnt riddle in contradiction. My stance is to bring forth the attentiom that you are ignoring. Unlike you I do want to change for a better Malaysia. But to do that I am not ignoring the plight of one side while upholding the other. The only reason why I am even playing devils advocate here is because you ate exclusively championing the plight of the non bumis while simultaneously ignoring, even being ignorant of the problem face by the bumis.\nMaintaining the status quo can only benefit one group, guess who? Acknowledging the historical context of the bumi policy is essential, but it doesn't mean the policy should remain unchallenged if it perpetuates inequality. The goal should be to evolve these policies in a way that reflects current societal needs and ensures fairness for all, not just maintain them because they were agreed upon in the past.\nI never argue for the maintainence of the statu quo. I didn lt even criticise you for challenging the policy. I criticise your lack of nunace that comes from the bumis side of the problem.\nI even again and again stated that the policy effect creates this circular motion of consequences. But you seem to ignore that. I had stated again and again that if you want to remove the bumi policy, you need to know why the policy was implemented in the first place.\nTackle that problem as well. Because currently you are not and that would not solve any problem and the same policy would be perpatuated again and again.\nIt's a false dichotomy to suggest that addressing the grievances of non-bumis necessarily means ignoring the challenges faced by bumis. This is what is wrong with you, in your mind it's a zero-sum game, it's either the bumis or the nons.\nBecause that is what you are doing. You are adrresing the grievance of the non bumi by ignoring the challenges of the bumis. That is why pointed out, for the bumi policy to be repealed something must ve given. You dont see that, in yiur mind there is nothing to give. Becausr you are blinded by the problem faced by the non bumi, while ignoring the bumis.\nI am not the one who is advocating for bumis or non bumis, you are. You arent tackling the problem from a malaysian perspective. You are trying to tackle it from a non bumi perpective. That is the zero sum game.\nIf the stance you take is to also help the bumis, your ignorance to the demographical, cultural, historical, and economical background of the bumis. It doesnt translate as such.\nWhy should we suppress the minorities if we want to uplift the bumis? Suggesting that policies favoring bumis are justified because of their economic disadvantage ignores the fact that not all bumis are economically disadvantaged and not all non-bumis are economically advantaged.\nI am not justifying the policy. I am giving context to it. That is where you dont seem to wrap around the nuances. Why do you think the policy was implemented in the first place? Why did it favor the malays? Why does the major parties toes the racial line? You dont seem to want to see this part of the of the ordeal. Not acknowledging this fact is what damned your cause, you want to repeal the policy but refuse to see the why, the reason, the politics, the context in which the policy was implemented for. What you think people start something willly nilly?\nIf it was as simple as that, the policy would be repealed as it was planned in the first place. But you only want to see only one side and to that good luck.\nAnd unless the Malays are mentally challenged at birth, I really don't see a reason why race plays a part in an uplifting program at all. Your argument is way too weak and myopic.\nAnd that is where why I see you are simply doing this for yourselves. The fact you dont see the reason why race play a part. Shows that you dont understand the history, you are just parroting feel good words.\nMy argument isnt weak, you just refuse to see that the bumis also has reasons for the policy. But hey, to not acknowledge your opppnents grievances is the sure way to solving this aint it?", "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. Think about it. I'm done with you. Hava a nice day.", "When you feel like you are the only one who is having problems it is everybody elses fault. I would bid you the same but I would know it wouldnt fit your own narrative.", "It seems like you have trouble making the distinction between criticizing bumi policies and blaming the bumi community. The focus of the critique is on the policies, not the people. The argument isn't about assigning blame to the bumi community as a whole; it's about challenging the fairness and current relevance of certain policies that happen to be labeled as 'bumi policies.'\nI am not even assigning blame. I have put out again and again on why the policy was implemented. That policy was agreed upon by the major representative party of that time. If that is what you consider as assigning blame, then you dont want to learn of historical context.\nChallenge the policy, not once has I denounce your point concerning the bumi policy. Not once. I pointed out, that in your crusade to criticise the bumi policy, without knowing the reason behind it, would not solve the problem. You repealed the policy then you solve the non bumi grievance, but what happen to the bumis grievances then? Your sole focus on only the non bumi is what I am calling you out on.\nIt's evident that your perspective is a direct result of years of political manipulation that it made you so obtuse that you failed to see the issue at hand, when challenges to the bumiputera policies are mistakenly seen as attacks on the Bumi/Malay community, a narrative you seem to have bought into. This is a narrow viewpoint and fails to recognize the difference between questioning a policy and targeting a community. It's sad that you have such a myopic understanding of what's essentially a broader issue of fairness and equality in policy-making\nThe fact that you degrade the views that is seen by the bumis as simply \"political manipulation\", is astounding. But hey you want a fair and equitable system, you need to learn to put yourself into another shoes. Not simply demeaning the other point as non-issues.\nAgain how can you make a fair system if you dont know the grievance of your own opponents, their history, their background, their fears. You accuses of me being short sighted, yet I am not the one who is belittling the views express by an opponent as \"political manipulation\", and apparently I am the one that cant make the distinction. But apparently airing the viewsand grievances of your opponents is just myopic.", "I'm confused.How does integration has got to do with language spoken at home?", "It's a bit of an artificial divide that splits between \"we speak X language, you speak Y language, we are different people\". TBH it's only as big a problem as you want to make it out to be. For example, in Singapore, it really doesn't matter since everyone has to learn a \"mother language\" so the 3 different languages are seen more as different \"course subjects\" like people taking science vs economics, not a big deal.\nFast forward to the Ukraine civil war (before the Russian invasion) where people were going \"We speak Russian so we are not Ukrainian!\" and Civil War ensues. They made it a big deal so it became a big problem to them.\nThis language thing is only as big as you want to make it, but it can go pretty big if you want it to!", "Chinese Malaysians, along with Indians, Ibans, Bidayuhs, etc are integrated citizens of Malaysia and they belong in this country. Comparing a fourth generation Malaysian Chinese to say, a Moroccan immigrant in France on the subject of immigration is basically comparing apples to oranges.\nAlso we minorities have kept our fluency in our mother tongues in tact and we're way more fluent in them than say in the US or UK where people actively want people, especially minorites to speak English. But that doesn't mean we're not fluent in Bahasa Malaysia, we still speak it and we pride ourselves in our diversity.\nWhether what that guy said was right or wrong can be debated but calling him a hypocrite is your fucking problem and you can stick it right up your white ass.", "Unfortunately that sentiment is rather normalised in Western Europe :/" ], [ "Never was , its just propaganda", "Not really, we are probably the best at it currently." ], [ "Nobody in Malaysia believes in multiculturalism. Outside of Malaysia, its just propaganda and foreigners don't know much about Malaysia in the first place.", "Exactly. In foreign universities Malaysians get so upset when you bring up examples of racism in the classroom discussions and they all deny it til they're blue in their face but after class they all go back to their respective kelab UMNO, DAP n pas n collect their allowances n attend their \"not for your people\" jamuan free...", "Multiculturism can't exist when segregation is the norm." ], [ "Root of the problem: Too much Islamisation and “Us versus Them” being engrained in a large percentage of a certain race from young. Hence the kami jaga kami shenanigans.", "20 Millions, 64% of the Malaysian population were Muslims. This is their ancestral land and NOT YOURS. Now you’re talking about their religion and at the same time want the equal rights. Get a life somewhere else lol", "Aah geez guys, I made the muslim extremist mad. Alright2 back to Tong San I go.", "Lol ☠️🤣. Ignore that fella only, sounds like a ketuanaan keris waver" ], [ "Look discrimination happens everywhere.\nWhat makes malaysia truly unique is that the discrimination is systemic, publicly funded and sanctioned by the government against the minorities for the last 50 years.\nAt least in overseas they pretend to try to fix it; here it’s too sensitive to even discuss it.\nSome folks always go like yea Singaporean hates Indians too. Last I check they don’t have quota system against Indian. Or how Americans still discriminate against blacks but last I check it’s illegal to ask for race and gender in job application form in US.", "Meh, have you lived there ? It’s not a mistake that graduates from universities in Singapore is predominantly Chinese.\nIn 2020,\nA whopping 80.5% graduates are Chinese, 10% are Indians and 4.1% are Malay.\nThey just hide it better la.. don’t fool yourself", "<image>\nCompared to malaysia. Dont hide it at all.", "True.. I agree education should be accessible at all levels despite race.\nMy points remains, to the Singapore fanboys / girls they are racist too.. ure fooling yourself with the comparison 😂😂", "Rental discrimination does happen there with all the stereotypes and stuff.", "80.5% graduates are Chinese, 10% are Indians and 4.1% are Malay.\nRead slowly. Especially the part on \"At least in overseas they pretend to try to fix it ...\" whereas here it's written in black and white that discrimination is legal.\nFor those looking for source on parent commenter's stat, this paper appears to be it. I highly recommend reading the entire paper on how they are identifying the problem and propose fixes going forward. And then look back at us Malaysia.\nMalays’ proportion of Diploma & Professional Qualification was the highest at 16.9% compared to 15.2% Chinese and 15% Indians in 2020.\nAnother promising picture is the field of study Malay university graduates are in – a significant number of them are in new technology/sciences...https://karyawan.sg/2020-census-a-community-perspective/", ".... isn't that just the normal population distribution? I'll be more surprised if Singapore had a 80% Malay graduate rate, like \"Where are all these extra Malays coming from? Or did the Chinese suddenly boycott the University education system?\".\nWith 80% Chinese, won't it be logical that 80% of the graduates are also Chinese?", "Alright, put the same logic to Malaysia la.\nBumis are the largest by ethnicity around 62% and yet in 2019, here is the statistics by race for graduates in malaysia\nBumis - 3.4 million Chinese -1.3 million Indians -368 thousands\nFor argument sakes, let assume these are the total graduates in malaysia.\nIn percentage form -\nBumi- 67% Chinese 26% Indians - 7%\nAnd yet, people keep glorifying Singapore when there’s an obvious disparity between education access across race more than Malaysia . Puhless .. hypocrites I tell you.", "Then you should be claiming that Bumi quotas don't really change a thing rather than randomly accuse Singapore of being racist. You're working in the wrong direction, instead of justifying Malaysia's fair stance, you rather pull both parties down by claiming that both are racist on a basis of a normal population distribution. Which also kind of crashes in logic.\n\"The graduation distribution closely follows the population distribution. We must be somehow suppressing someone.\" -logic failure.", "its everywhere... China is even worse.. only money matters.. almost like agreeable anywhere those china mentality", "Whataboutism", "China is fairer because only money matters so if you work hard you get it, if not you leave to make another boss (or yourself) richer. It's literally pure play capitalism.. worked there for awhile and you get low fix pay but almost unlimited bonus based on your output\nHere we have this stupid pakat mentality. In govt, one dominates, in private the other. Anything other than the big two can go fly kites.", "Can't they understand that it's sensitive because it requires discussion, and possibly requires a consensus made to make it a less sensitive issue?" ], [ "We treat Palestinians better than the nons.", "Pakistanis too, until they started tackling your bini so they can start opening businesses (a minor problem in outskirts in Selangor)", "only kisah bile politically convenient\nafter that toss out the window", "Same here in Sarawak and also in Sabah.", "Islam... Oh Islam....\nThats the answer for those who believe such things...", "Shitty people will still be shitty even without the religion as an excuse", "I blame the Holy Shit religion for that! Every time something bad happens, you'll see that one of their believers is involved.\nCar crash -> \"Holy Shit!\"\nPlane crash -> \"Holy Shit!\"\nSkateboard accident-> \"Holy Shit!\"\nSee? Every time something bad happens, there is always one of their believers around! Coincidence? You tell me!\n:P\nlol\nPS: Just in case people don't get it, it's a joke where an exclamation is taken as a statement of religious belief.", "Nothing to do with Islam. Your the reason why Malaysia has problems l", "I am the problem.\nI want all Malaysians to be treated the same regardless of religion, race, gender, sexual orientation.\nIndeed I am the problem. Because I won't bow down to certain people saying certain things.", "Yes you are, because you made assumptions and commit hypocrisy against the very statement you just gave.", "Islam oh Islam....such is the drive for PAS\nIslamic party Malaysia...number one in all our hearts\nSomething something all other races and religions should die...la la la\nSung to the tune of the great hit - Death to the Infidel", "Generic party made of uneducated anti Islamist gathering in the name of Islam saying some dumb shit.\nIt’s not like other parties in Malaysia don’t do the same with their own voter base.\nEast Malaysia DAP calls anyone who doesn’t vote for them as race traitors, PKR sides easily with the corrupt, UMNO uses its race rhetoric all the time.\nInstead of being an ignorant racist, maybe attempt to live up to your own statement.\nWe don’t need to go into the world rhetoric in history of every ideology doing terrible stuff today and in the past.", "And how do I live up to it if I don't speak out against such atrocities?\nKeep quiet and diam? Let it wash over us?\nPray tell, how should we live up to become true Malaysians? Where we see each other as brothers not islam/non or races?\nTell, pray tell, since you called me a hypocrite and ignorant. Share your thoughts since you know it all.", "Speaking up doesn’t mean becoming another ignorant racist in themselves.\nYou can always find more logical and sensible stand points.\nYou will never remove the brotherhood people share in an ideology. Religion and race will always have some level of play to the human mental state in different ways.\nYou want to do better? Ask why isn’t pas living up to their stated Islamist values online with the constitution of Medina and larp whabbist and racial politics.\nAsk why dap states to not be racist but drops racial statements all the time from genuine post of “race traitors” etc\nAsk why UMNO supposedly the savior of the poor man involved in big money politics?\nAsk why PKR became UMNO?\nThey all have legitimate reason it’s you can stand up for moderate values rather than adopting one general uninformed mainstream racial take.\nExtend further and look at human rights hypocrisy and how no nation truly has it implemented.\nSystematic racism exist in Denmark (Greenland folks)\nSwedish far right rising due to compromises with moderates right.\nThe world has problems and it allows terrible people to rise due to generalisation and ignorance.\nYou want to make Malaysia more humanist? Appeal to the Islamist humanist policies.\nYou want to make Malaysia less racially problematic improve minority integration into the country and condemn racial states by parties that engage in demonising the majority or the minority.", "Oh wise one. You have spoken.\nTruly your words are amazing.\nPlease mods let's sticky it.\nSome of what you say is true. But really you don't have an answer yourself. It reads like a thesis on \"everyone is bad, so be better yourself, just don't ask me specifics\"\nYou want to make Malaysia more humanist? Appeal to the Islamist humanist policies\nIndeed. Islam oh Islam let it continue to expand into the lives all non believers.\nDeath to the nons!", "must be a bitter non. malaysia doesn’t even grant palestinian refugees right to work, yet you have the audacity to say this. wallow in your own sense of deprivation." ], [ "It's never been. Multiculturalism has always been either a tourism slogan or a campaigning slogan, in order for people to have a nice warm fuzzy feeling on the inside that they're doing something right. Look beyond the surface level, peek into the details, and you'll find things are very different.\nMulticulturalism implies, and requires, an ability to accept practices that are not ours, even when we do not understand or align with it. And while our people, for the most part, get along, how many stories have you seen recently that fall under the theme of lack of tolerance?\nThis is an ongoing irony of Malaysia: cakap satu, buat lain. Politikus will talk a lot about multiculturalism but at the same time will fabricate issues to generate anti-multiculturalism drama for political gain. Cakap satu, buat lain. Our tourism slogans talk about welcoming people to a diverse culture but when minorities here speak up, so often we hear \"tak suka, berambus\". Cakap satu, buat lain.\nAnd people are very comfortable not confronting that doublespeak because it allows them to avoid uncomfortable conversations about their own doublespeak. And as long as this is the case, Malaysia is heading down a dangerous path." ], [ "Far from it.\nThe ethnic minorities are Pendatang, remember ? A few former prime ministers of the country have been very vocal about it, repeatedly labeling the Malaysian-chinese, Malaysian-indians pendatang, and budget under the Sabri's administration is a testament.\nThe poster of multiculturalism is purely advertising, sealing investment deals for the ruling party, tourism, and as disguise to con the foreigners.", "Talked to my friend about this just a few days ago. Went to Kuala Lumpur and was feeling proud of how my motherland has developed until I realized that ppl here don't see me as \"locals\"... maybe yes but not truly, not from their heart\nthey'll still treat me as a pendatang when it comes to limited-spots-for-benefits given by the government...." ], [ "Since when Malaysia was EVER a poster child for multiculturalism. It is conservative AF with all the Muslim rights. Man. Was a gaslight thread", "It was right up to the 80s when Mamak + Anwar islamation of the civil service and education prog took hold.", "It always has been. Even now we are still the best in it compared to other countries.", "*Laugh* from Singapore.", "Singapore is not as diverse and far from being multiculturalism compared to Malaysian. Quite literally lacks diversity as a whole, Singapore has less diversity than the US.\nSingapore has its own issues and will continue to have them as well.\nMuslims rights has never really been the issue it’s been the failure of long term integration of immigrant groups and the ability to full enforce Islamic rights along with national code along the constitution of Medina.\nI don’t have to go far to look at issues at East Malaysia where DAP actively makes racially motivated statements such as “race traitor” on their official social media or go to West Malaysia and look at PAS going in ethnic lines.\nMalaysia is pretty centristic.\nNot right enough and not left enough depending on person.\nYour bubble isn’t the reality of Malaysia luckily enough.", "Comment chain nuked due to being in breach of reddiquette, specifically because it contained personal attack, insult, or threat and devolved into slapfighting instead.\nu/PurposeExtra9144 and u/Fit_Treacle_6077, consider this an official warning as we don't welcome this on the sub. Comments in the similar vein may result in a ban or a permaban." ], [ "Malaysia was indeed multicultural before. It was beautiful. This is back in the 80s and 90s. (That’s the time I was growing up, so probably it was the same before as well) After that it decided it wanted to be Islamic and fast forward to today, it’s trying really hard to be truly Islamic and erase everything beautiful about it.\nAt least when we fail, we can look to Singapore and see how culturally diverse they are over there.", "Singapore isn’t as culturally diverse nor as great at it.\nMalaysia has to deal with over 100 indigenous groups all different from each other, dozens of minorities groups.\nIslamic policies had never been the issue, it’s only the issue when people like you pretend it is.\nIt’s always been a long set of problems from social inequality, failure to recognise colonial problems, lack of integration between the large number of different groups including other bumis etc.", "Trading \"semua salah DAP\" with \"semua salah British\" is progress. I can get along with that.", "The British caused irreplaceable damage to Malaysia.\nDAP is just another PAS for its own audience.\nBoth terrible.\nWhen you have DAP in Sabah and Sarawak posting on their official media calling Chinese or mixed people “race traitors” for voting other parties, you definitely have issues. The same with PAS.\nThis is a stupid argument to make, they both do ton of damage but people are stuck in their own bubble.", "Then call it what is it. The British have done irreparable damage, and the continued policy of Malaysia to hold the nonBumis in second-class status is doing irreparable damage. What's so hard about that?", "“Second class” - gotta tell my father who is not Malaysian has never felt that way he should feel that way from now on.\nFurthermore, bumi putera policy is affirmative action and has repaired a portion of the problem.\nIt’s a great program used across the world, what you should be fighting for its immigrant backgrounds to integrate into the local community, accept the cultural and Islamic rights of Malaysia, push for economic universal care while officially recognising the plights of all groups and maintaining the Bumi Putera rights until a proper transition and time period has been met.", "Ok. If you say so. 😉", "Oh 100%, but hey stay ignorant.", "Sure. I’d love to. 😉", "Good and hopefully racist like you won’t breed anymore.\nIf you can’t see the diversity in Malaysia and ignore it to only Malay, India and Chinese. Stay ignorant.\nWhen we have half a million Arabs, Millions of Orang Asal of different ethnicities, hundred thousand Pakistanis etc and yet ignore their existence is insane.", "Omg. You don’t give up do you. How old are you?", "You’re doing the same. Keep it up" ], [ "the poster-child for multi culturalism should be Australia or Canada. Malaysia is heading towards an Arabic mono culture instead", "Brother have you lived in Australia or Canada? They are far worst than us.\nAboriginal Australia deal with so much shit it’s insane, same with indigenous Canadians.\nTons of immigrants are heavily discriminated in Australia and Canada but deal with it due to higher pay etc.\nThis is a huge talking point in their countries.\nYou have regularly Nazi marches calling for the deaths of aboriginals etc in Australia.\nYou have regularly attacks on minorities in Canada.\nDon’t live in a bubble.", "nope. I have lived in NZ and they are the friendliest people imaginable. My brother and sister love living in Australia and US respectively. also see the top 10 migrants to Australia for the past 20 years\n<image>", "I live in Australia. You might ignorant about what happens here and in New Zealand but we have Nazi marches quite regularly in Australia.\nIt’s not hard to find cases and many counter protest happen at regular intervals in Melbourne central.\nAlso Australia etc the Anglo world has had huge immigration push again due to global north and south issue.\nNew Zealand itself has had lots of issues and is one reason my Māori and White friends have began immigrating to Australia due to a less problematic area in some states.\nMāori issue has been a large part of New Zealand recent politics and has seen the rise of many Māori politician highlighting their discrimination being faced etc.\nDid not include the Christchurch shooting - even tho it should have been listed.\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Zealandia\nhttps://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/aug/23/who-is-julian-batchellor-stop-co-governance-new-zealand-far-right-speaker-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-referendum-no-campaign\nhttps://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/nov/18/queensland-muslims-ask-for-police-protection-over-new-zealand-far-right-activists-pro-israel-protest\nhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67621800.amp\nhttps://www.1news.co.nz/2023/09/30/racial-slurs-shouted-during-invasion-of-te-pati-maori-candidates-home/\nhttps://www.justice.govt.nz/about/news-and-media/news/maori-highly-victimised-by-crime-survey-finds/\nA simple search will bring you a large list of issues in New Zealand.\nAustralia is more amplified and is trying to make changes judicially to fix some issues but will probably not be able to do so in a large meaningful way for a while.\nLiving in a bubble does not reflect the issues a society faces.\nMy immigrant father from a “discriminated” group in Malaysia has never faced any issue and think Malaysia is extremely friendly and nice.\nHowever this does not equate to the reality of what some Malaysians face.", "Spoken like someone who's only visited Australia/ Canada for holidays..." ], [ "Actually no. Most people in other countries I've visited have asked me about the discriminatory policies - so it's common knowledge that Malaysia's a terrible place for Nons.", "It isn’t lol. You realised you probably been to all the countries that have that same policy right?\nAustralia, New Zealand, UK, America, Sweden, China, Taiwan etc all have the same policy.", "Guys, he's going to show us Australia, New Zealand, UK, America, Sweden, China and Taiwan's constitutional right to affirmative action for a majority race!\nI'm sitting here ready to have my mind blown.", "Those countries do not take into account whether the group is a minority or a majority but looked at the perceived injustice committed to those groups.\nFor example, all Irish people are in the UK are entitled to affirmative action, this has also been the Scottish and Walesh people who were subjected to the brutality of the English.\nThe UK has also passed large amount of incentive for female population regardless of size.\nIt backwards to believe only a minority of people should receive help.\nNo educated person would agree with that stance.\nTyranny of a majority and minority works both ways", "Everything sounds right, except that in Malaysia it is the already-privileged, already-holding-the-reins of economic and political and demographic power Bumis who still benefit from affirmative action.\nNo one else does this. Malaysia is special. Very. Special.", "Expect this is not true the majority of Bumi are not in that position and even when grouped they are still not in that position of privilege this goes against every statistics out there aside from demographics which looked into is a messy due to over 100 distinct indigenous groups alone in Malaysia.\nAgain your fighting for the wrong cause when you could be fighting for better equality as a whole and a fair transition along with integration of immigrant background groups, acceptance of culture and Islamic rights of Malaysia, push for better social class care and a slow transition to a universal standard after the grievances of indigenous people can be met while introducing programs for the poor.", "The UK does not have any sort of affirmative action for Irish, Welsh or Scottish people.", "Why would you confidently say that without checking for a second?\nhttps://academic.oup.com/ojls/article-abstract/24/3/363/1570636?redirectedFrom=PDF\nhttps://www.lawscot.org.uk/media/372057/23112021-scottish-governments-use-of-made-affirmative-procedure-002-003.pdf\nhttps://research.senedd.wales/research-articles/what-is-wales-doing-to-eliminate-racial-discrimination/\nhttps://www.gov.uk/government/publications/positive-action-in-the-workplace-guidance-for-employers/positive-action-in-the-workplace\nThe UK also employees something called Positive Discrimination :)\nThe UK employees more limited affirmation action for Wales & Scotland tho did consider quota education policy for Wales before trying to instead fund everyone there as to avoid backlash from English voters etc.\nThe UK also has many policies for its “colonial” states it still occupies.\nReally is the UK has already integrated its white population into a capacity that allows them to excel due to long periods of colonial wealth.\nOnly exemption is the Irish which they have introduced programs for a regularly give higher budget to.o.", "I’m from the UK. There isn’t affirmative or “positive” discrimination for the Scottish, Welsh and Irish people. Though the exception to that is probably Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland. This doesn’t apply outside of NI.\nThe Scottish and Welsh governments might have schemes aimed towards Asians or black peoples, not for ethnic Scots/Welsh people.\nThe UK doesn’t occupy Scotland, Wales or NI. They are not colonial entities.", "Irish people has it, tho so those other territories.\nAs for Welsh and Scotland they depended on a few factors.\nQuite literally linked you different forms of affirmative action.\nTho British “oversea” territories also have affirmative action.\nAgain as white British did not really experience much levels of segregation aside from the Irish there wasn’t much requirement to provide them with affirmative action.\nAlso as for another country eg: Sweden it applies to white European Sami peoples.\nPoint is that it has always been used for groups facing injustice in the case of the Uk it primarily focuses on Irish and non-white minorities.\nWhile for Malaysia the majority Bumi were affected hence why they need affirmative action.", "I've actually read the papers and you'll have to pick out the parts that actually look like Malaysia's \"affirmative action for an ethnic group with economic, demographic and political power\".\nCould you quote from them?", "I gave examples of affirmative action there however here is an example of a direct quote:\nReligious focus here is more towards the catholic Irish who were prosecuted.\nhttps://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/24/labour-backs-positive-discrimination-to-close-racial-gap-in-policing\nHere is an exact quote:\nIn Northern Ireland which used a form of positive discrimination, Catholic representation massively increased from 8% in 2001 to 30% in 2011.\nhttps://www.equalityni.org/AffirmativeAction\nIreland dabbled into quota university but received enough funding to avoid it.\nThe way the UK frames affirmative action and the lack of openness about it under the guise of multiculturalism is why many people aside from the White English conservatives have been not really focused on it a lot.\nThey are only jobs for certain ethnic groups: tho they predominantly apply only to immigrant racial groups who were apart of the British empire pre decolonisation and are British citizens.\nThey also changes the naming scheme for those jobs in 2021 after backlash by White ethnic groups in the UK and minorities may have been avoiding them due to how it was marketed.\nhttps://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/writing-about-ethnicity/", "I'll make it simple. You've put out many examples of affirmative action, but none of them benefit a group that has all 3:\nEconomic power ☑\nStrong demographic representation ☑\nPolitical power ☑\nReligious focus here is more towards the catholic Irish who were prosecuted.\nhttps://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/24/labour-backs-positive-discrimination-to-close-racial-gap-in-policing\nHere is an exact quote:\nIn Northern Ireland which used a form of positive discrimination, Catholic representation massively increased from 8% in 2001 to 30% in 2011.\nIn Nothern Ireland, they're trying to solve an ACTIVE problem where the Catholics are under-represented. Your source says so itself.\nStrong demographic representation ☐\nThey are only jobs for certain ethnic groups: tho they predominantly apply only to immigrant racial groups who were apart of the British empire pre decolonisation and are British citizens.\nThey also changes the naming scheme for those jobs in 2021 after backlash by White ethnic groups in the UK and minorities may have been avoiding them due to how it was marketed.\nhttps://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/writing-about-ethnicity/\nWait, how does this prove that anyone is benefitting from affirmative action and already has:\nEconomic power ☐\nStrong demographic representation ☐\nPolitical power ☐\nWestern governments look at historical injustices, then they identify a group that lacks at least one of the three. Their affirmative action aims to solve an ACTIVE problem. You are fixated on the idea that they see \"Historical injustice ☑\" and start affirmative action policies.\nMalaysia is special because it justifies its pro-Bumi affirmative action policy solely on \"Historical injustice ☑\".", "Going to add the British is only one of the many examples. Yea they are under representation for the majority 48% Catholic Irish population.\nYou basically answered yourself:\nBumi do not have economic power as a whole land even then Bumi is a large unfair group lumped together to be considered.\nNorthern Irish catholic are the demographic majority and politically a major force.\nAffirmative action is done in different ways, we are one of the unique nations where the majority were oppressed." ], [ "As a Malaysian, I wish our government policies or political rhetoric could truly live up to the ideals of a multicultural country that we wish to embody. But the recent rise in right wing populist political rhetoric by a certain political coalition in Malaysia proves to be a strong hurdle towards that ideal" ], [ "Only as a marketing gimmick to lure tourists. Every local knows that we have serious unresolved issues, and laws were made in a way that prevents these issues from getting discussed in any meaningful way, or resolved in a just manner." ], [ "It is if you're classed an \"expat \"and not a \"migrant\".", "TBH I've been noticing a lot of migrants using the ex-pat term, even Filipinos and educated Bangladeshis. Yea I know it applies to them, too, I'm a MUET Band 5 cert. holder, but don't kid yourself. We all know in Malaysia, ex-pats = white. Local semantics." ], [ ".....\nWait, Malaysia was a poster child for multi-culturalism? When did that happen? In the 1960s? lol.\nMalaysia is more a poster child for \"Melayu Satu! Chinese and Indians know your place under us!\" than any form of multi-culturalism." ], [ "Beyond what I come across on the Internet daily, my everyday life remains colorful. People are respectful, mindful of boundaries and caring for others. Each day I find myself learning new things about different cultures. The people I know take pride in their backgrounds. Good foods, vibrant environment. So, I still believe it is. Occasionally, there will be some people who seem dissatisfied with anything and everything, but that's just the way it goes I guess." ], [ "Yes, if you try to get out from reddit and see the world for yourself" ], [ "Heart says yes! Mind says no.\nReverse is true for (some) visitors here. But mixed bag really." ], [ "I studied in Malaysia in for 5 years.\nI am from Maldives, so I have a South Asian ethnicity and look very much South Asian. (brown skin tone, etc). What I noticed is that people were extremely racist towards us UNTIL they find out we're from Maldives, then they're extra nice. This was the case whenever we dealt with Chinese-Malays and even Malays. Always found it weird.\nI personally attributed that to racism in the culture against the Indian Malays, because why else would they react like that?", "Because you're Muslim, duh" ], [ "Malaysia truly for bumiputera" ], [ "No, we’ve become the cautionary tale of screwing everything up. Especially compared to every neighbour, we’ve lost on every front." ], [ "Not anymore. If you're talking about multiculturalism, look towards Australia and Canada." ], [ "Been traveling in KL for the past week, and I'm still searching for that Indian with an afro...." ], [ "go to any mall — do you see multicultural group of friends these days? hardly. but got la those english speaking types..." ], [ "To be fair almost no other country in the world has multicultural things going on. Italians, koreans, chinese, and so on. Only here.", "America, Canada and Britain are actually pretty diverse.", "Tbf, multiethnic doesn't necessarily equate to being multicultural.", "What is the difference between the two, and why does Malaysia qualify to be considered as multi-cultural?", "Chinese new year public holiday", "It is somewhat like the melting pot vs salad bowl and/or assimilation vs integration argument. They look the same, people might argue that they're similar but imo they're somewhat different. Ethnic focused more on the race or ancestry, although people might argue that it's tied to culture.\nWe don't \"kill\" the culture. Malaysian would most likely identify themselves as chinese, malay, indian, iban etc first. And we can say for sure that our way of living are very different than each other. In fact, we celebrate our multicultural identity. Just look at all the festivals, cuisine, chinatown, little india, the \"unofficial\" mini karachi, rohingya enclave in selayang etc.\nCompared roughly with the US, at least they tried to assimilate everyone into the American identity despite the multiracial background. Rishi Sunak, the prime minister UK might be of Indian descent, but he's firstly a British. We might add that he's British-indian or something, but british first and foremost.\nRacism exist everywhere whether we like it or not, whether we refuse to recognize it or not. Sadly, our govt failed in cementing the Malaysian identity among us. Heck, we can't even agree on a single language to communicate.\nI might be rambling incoherently, but I hope you get the gist of it.", "Such an exaggeration. Those places certainly don't kill their culture. I'd like you to go to the US, and tell the latinos or chinese, or indians that they've lost their culture. You probably won't get out of it unscathed.\nJust because they have a national identity doesn't mean their culture was killed. Not every place went through what the Indonesians did.\nEven Malaysians, when leaving the country, identify as Malaysians first. I don't know what race you are, but just imagine a malaysian chinese studying in the UK, are you gonna say you're just \"chinese\" and risk being confused as a mainland chinese? I seriously doubt it.", "I don't think that's right. Rishi Sunak is still a Hindu, for instance and is married to an Indian woman. The Scottish First Minister is a practicing Muslim. The Muslim Council in Britain says it has over 1200 masjids. None of this seems like assimilation to me, more like integration.", "And they still have racism issues too.", "At least its technically against the law instead of being institutionalised like in Malaysia", "That’s true. Would prefer Malaysia to be the same.", "The difference is by the second and third generation everyone assimilated to a certain common culture\nBut in Malaysia you can have people who have people who have lived in the same land for 5+ generations but still have very different diversities of values, language, cultural norms etc etc", "Isnt that being multicultural?", "With mass migrations since the 19th century, most countries in the world are multicultural, with some exceptions where there is little immigration to that particular place, e.g. Korea.\nChina has been multicultural ever since its expansion from the plains, and claimed to be multi-cultural ever since the Qing dynasty, and after the revolution, the fist flag they used had colors representing the significant ethnic groups.\nItaly and Korea did not form globe-spanning empires, but unlike Korea, Italy does have immigration from typically poorer countries from Europe." ], [ "yes, we are banglasia now" ], [ "While I’m here sitting next to this pool in this nice hotel with my kids and their cousins…let me try to break this down coming from a 44-yr old man who hailed from a kampung up north and now living in Selangor.\nThe article lament the old days where people respect each other, visited each other during festivities and eat each other’s food.\nWell, back in the day the respect comes from knowing each other first and then loving each other. We know that you only eat halal food and you don’t eat beef and that when you have family members who just passed away recently, you don’t celebrate CNY too big.\nNowadays, beighbours don’t even know their neighbours name and if the neighbours parked the car wrongly, one just post the picture on the resident association WhatsApp group and started complaining to all 400+ people in the said WhatsApp group to move the car as it’s blocking this guests that one has for one’s party/kenduri that one never invite the neighbour in the first place. True story by the way.\nIn the cities, most of us only ever want things for ourselves, we are selfish people as humans generally are.\nThe dude himself said “Of course, some might argue that it is my fault for being disengaged from my neighbours. Perhaps, the generation ahead of me felt the need to connect more, and live harmoniously together, instead of being in silos.”\nHe’s so big and mighty felt like there’s no need to engage and connect and move harmoniously together.\nBut he still laments his parents living harmoniously together? Then make noise about his Muslims guests worrying about their food.\nDude, you are the one who’s suppose to be forthcoming and inform them that the food are halal.\nYou feel that you interacted with ease…but do you ever ask them how they really feel. Dude, you need to make more effort to know your friends and family dude.\nCommunity starts with ourselves. Starts with own family. How much we teach our family to respect each other and in turn respect those around us which include neighbours.\nYou yourselves just give the obligatory nod you neighbours and you expect people to be good to you. Oh such a mighty stupid arrogant fool you.\nYou only see fault in other people’s and yet not yours?\nLet me point things out for you a bit so you see the stupidity of yourselves.\nYous spoke about Rishi Sunak…but you failed to mention that he dresses like an English, he speaks like an Englishmen, he lives his daily lives like an Englishmen. Why don’t you advocate people of other ethnic to speak the official language of Malaysia to gain the respect of and votes of Malaysia?\nYou spoke about Singapore head of state Mr. Tharman Shanmugaratnam and Singapore being more finesse by appointing this person.\nWhy didn’t you talk about that the position is largely ceremonial with almost no executive power except for a few things? The real power has been in Chinese ethnic hands who are also of the ethnic majority there? Not to mention the only party who’s been in power since independence. And who is know to be very undemocratic where they would quash any for of oppositions with all their might.\nUntil we have eradicated people like you, who only sees the fault in others, until people like you who doesn’t care about their neighbours wilt away, until we have people like you who think of themselves as high and mighty and have no wrong extinct, then we will have a truly multicultural nation where we respect and help each other.\nTill then, we will just be just like this somewhat racist trainer for greedy corporates who somehow thinks of himself as the model person of the nation but instead, just a guy who doesn’t even care about his neighbours much less about the country and is actually a snake oil salesman for over 20 years.", "As much as I dislike the tone of your message, I'll concede that some of your criticisms do carry merit.", "Thank you for the kind (sort of) words, reading through the whole thing, and giving your honest opinion of it.\nI try to make it that kind of tone on purpose and with passion.\nI really despise people who barks of unity in a community when even at the simplest form of community (neighbourhood) he failed to do the very thing he wants others to do at national level.\nI have only one word for it, hypocrites. The worst of people indeed these hypocrites, especially as a professional trainer.", "Admittedly I honestly feel Malays are the nicest people. Just not in politics.\nSay your car breaks down in the middle of a road, and people come to help you in pushing it to the side. 7-10 times its usually Malay or Indians.\nChinese people usually have a self centered kind of mindset, this I shamefully confess.", "100% that most Malaysians are all nice people no matter the race.\nMy Chinese neighbour Miss Ng (was also my science teacher in school back in the day) never failed to share food during moon cake festival and during CNY. Come to our house during Hari raya and give duit raya.\nAnd currently Mr Lim my next door neighbour whom I always leave my house key whenever I balik kampung never failed to report every few days that house are all good and I got a few packages he helped received.\nNo matter what race, we are mostly nice people. As you said, it’s the politics that divide us. So it’s up to us to brings people closer and don’t let the politician further divides us. Or worse, feed onto what the politician gives us to further divide us.\nI make it a point to buy my current house where I know I have Chinese / Indian neighbour next door and across. We need to start doing it first before we can expect others to do it.\nSend my kids to go to a farther achool (20 mins further than the closest one) where there are more Chinese and Indian pupils so they can learn to mingle with one another closer and share the highs and lows together and forge deeper bonds.\nI’m blessed with a life where I can choose to do so and I only pray that others can do so or even more so we can forge deeper bonds across races. That’s the only way to move forward. WE have to start first and hopefully one day our kids or grand kids can see it finally happen.\nThat kind of article (written by the trainer) is the kind of politics talk that divides us. I can forgive uneducated or ignorance folks in kampung as they don’t have the means to learn and whatnot. But to have a fully educated urban man do it is what pains me.", "Fully educated urbanites who are yet uncivilised in conduct😤 yeah we get that a lot" ], [ "Its not uncommon tho, few examples\nChina with Uighur\nChina with Hong Kong\nUS with native American\nUS with colored people\nNot that it isn't right but its not uncommon but we absolutely should be better but step by step even US have Barrack Obama after 200++ of independence and after that only white dude got elected anyway\nBtw our neighbors too - Indonesia with their Chinese community - Philippines with their Muslim community", "China with Uighur (and tibet) is not an ethnic/cultural issue. It is an issue with dictatorship and imperialism. China actually treats ethnic minorities very well (as long as they dont aspire independenxe as CCP did try to practise socialism). The ethnic minorities are given privileges (quota, autonomous regions, liberal children policy) Hong Kong, Taiwan are being / will be brutalized for their independence aspiration despite being the same ethnic / culture s China" ], [ "I mean, kinda since Malaysia is the only one who loosely fits the bill. With the collapse of Austria-hungary and Yugoslavia, I say Malaysia is one of the only developing country actively striving for multicultural (with mixed results of course).\nWhile other countries have said they are multicultural, in paper that is not the truth. Countries such as China, Russia and Indonesia have different ethnicities but all will be ultimately assimilated. Western countries are guilty of such policies too. Malaysia is the only country where different race groups live so differently, that they sometimes can't even understand each other. Now, that's truly Asia" ], [ "How can discriminated people dominated top 10 richest people in the country.", "That's the same as asking how can Palestinians be discriminated in Israel/Gaza when so many Hamas leaders are rich", "How would you feel when you’re suffering and someone tells you your uncle’s uncle’s uncle’s friend’s brother is rich so you should be fine too and don’t need any help?\nThe law is not fair, we give different privileges based on our race that is the fact. Stop pointing finger elsewhere and pretend this is any less.", "they've been suffering so much that they know only money matters, so that's why that generation of Chinese are capable of doing so?\nI mean, give us the same rights same benefits? We could be just as lazy as \"your people\", see that eh?" ], [ "Don’t even understand these non-bumis rants. Malaysia wasn’t an apartheid state. Non-bumis mostly are richer than bumis. But still menyalak macam terpaling tersakiti. Talking crap about Islam and being racist against Bumis community. You think the equal rights will happen anytime soon?\nDid we shutdown your business? Destroy your temple? Destroy your culture?\nThe reason most of bumis are against this equal right is because we don’t feel the “respect”. We feel threatened.\nThis is OUR ancestral land. If you wanna that rights, show that you can respect first.", "Did we shutdown your business? Destroy your temple? Destroy your culture?\nI'll just say this and you don't have to respond, because I won't even bother to:\nWhen I was running my business, I have Malay neighbors who came into my shop and told my customers to leave \"because the proprietor is not Malay\". So yes, you might not know, but there are people who have been trying to shutdown our businesses. To say nothing about the Raub durian case and other issues. And the cries to shut down vernacular schools, how is that not an attempt to erode our culture?" ], [ "So far, I have zero confidence about the possibility of achieving unity between Bumiputera and Non-Bumiputera particularly Chinese groups. I believe the Indian community displays a strong sense of semangat kewarganegaraan due to high participation in the Malaysian Armed Forces and other public service branch.\nFor example, when the government wants to promote Bahasa Malaysia, most of tongsan group just like in this reddit express opposition. They are often critical, undermining and questioning the government's effort.\nWe can unite if non-bumis agreed to the discontinuation of vernacular schools. (Unfortunately, these tongsan community will never allow it. terpaling tersakiti.)\nWe can unite if non-bumis agreed to memartabatkan Bahasa Malaysia. (Unfortunately, these tongsan group still thinks that they're in Singapore).\nWe can unite if non-bumis have a \"spirit\" like us, a commitment to safeguarding our ancestral land. (Unfortunately, it won't happen).\nI'm sure that the Bumis group would be open to embracing the concept of equality once those criteria are fulfilled. Takkan tiba-tiba nak dapat that equality kan? kahkah", "I believe the Indian community displays a strong sense of semangat kewarganegaraan due to high participation in the Malaysian Armed Forces and other public service branch.\nMy parent was in the army too. It's the amount of racism that he felt that compelled him to forbid his offsprings from joining.\nFor example, when the government wants to promote Bahasa Malaysia, most of tongsan group just like in this reddit express opposition. They are often critical, undermining and questioning the government's effort.\nWe can unite if non-bumis agreed to memartabatkan Bahasa Malaysia. (Unfortunately, these tongsan group still thinks that they're in Singapore).\nMost Chinese won't object to memartabatkan BM. Tp when you want to advocate for the use of BM to the point where it becomes impractical, refusing the use of English when necessary for example, that's where the disagreements come in.\nIn fact, I believe I can speak on behalf of most nons that we don't even care who's PM. As far as I'm concerned, that was a stupid comment by Lim Kit Siang. Melayu ke, cina ke India ke. Just be effective. Jgn la hypocrite, jgn la fail to tunai janji, and jgn la fail to save the country. But look at what's happening after so many years?\nAnd we don't even care about Singapore. It's the sense of not being wanted here that makes us look across the Causeway. Your \"tongsan group\" is not helping either. It strikes the same condensding tone as \"pendatang\". Put that in your pipe and smoke it.\nWe can unite if non-bumis agreed to the discontinuation of vernacular schools. (Unfortunately, these tongsan community will never allow it. terpaling tersakiti.)\nVernacular schools are protected by Article 152 of the Constitution too. And since politics can arguably be seen as a form of give-and-take, what is your \"give\" when you wanna \"take\" away our schools? The main issue is not whether nons agree to divest with vernacular schools or not. It's if we surrender this today, what else would we be expected to surrender next time? Will this open a floodgate that will see our heritage being washed away?\nAfter watching Keluar Sekejap, especially the episode where the former minister of Agama Islam appeared, I feel that DAP should tone down their liberalism. There needs to be a balance of theocracy and secularism in Malaysia. We are not UK or US. We are singular. But the other side doesn't seem to want to contend with just a balance too, eh? It seems more like a wave to engulf the country whole and knock us back into the Agricultural Age with all the archaic values and mindset by heading towards full theocracy. Which is the same with that Hudud issue. On paper, it sounds like it doesn't concern us nons. But is it really so? It's impractical and naive to think it won't.\nWe can unite if non-bumis have a \"spirit\" like us, a commitment to safeguarding our ancestral land. (Unfortunately, it won't happen).\nPretty sure those MPs will be on the first flight away before war ever reach our shores. Why dont you ask them first?", "Hey good point over there. Thanks for the clarification... Tongsan really an offensive word because I had bad experience. Rasa geram sometimes the way non-bumis treated us in the company... Kenaikan pangkat, chinese first. Salary? Chinese got higher than us. So dendam and kepercayaan semakin terhakis. But I hope it'll get better over time.\nThe abolishment of vernacular schools doesn't necessarily disrupt your heritage ler. We just want to enhance our sekolah kebangsaan and give students a deeper understanding of various cultures. Masalah sekarang kalau tempat majority malay dan sekolah tu takde chinese/indian.. diorang tend to jadi racist shit. Same goes to SJKC/SJKT.\nTalking about politics, my concern is that certain DAP MPs frequently criticize Muslim beliefs. This is the significant contributing factor to the unease among the Malays towards DAP which is predominantly Chinese. Contohnya majority Malays Muslim tak suka PAS, tapi DAP supporter (mostly dalam this sub) hina PAS tanpa sedar bahawa dia hina certain things related to Islam. Seriously ni buat aku tak puas hati.\nBut thanks anyway.. semoga ada sinar about those equal rights.", "Kenaikan pangkat, chinese first. Salary? Chinese got higher than us. So dendam and kepercayaan semakin terhakis. But I hope it'll get better over time.\nI admit that there are companies that favour Chinese for promotion. Even in my father's workplace, my father is actively trying to promote his former subordinates who are Malay and Indians. He vouches for them and he gets marked as a pariah of sorts in the company. Still, there are some who believes that my father is being fair.\nOn another note, that's what I encourage my Indian and Malay friends to learn Chinese. Let's not forget that one advantage Malaysians have in the job market is our ability to converse in diverse languages. Besides, from a business standpoint, there is so much that those who can speak and read Chinese could learn about. In the scenario you mentioned, learn Chinese. Prove them wrong. Show them.\nThe abolishment of vernacular schools doesn't necessarily disrupt your heritage ler. We just want to enhance our sekolah kebangsaan and give students a deeper understanding of various cultures. Masalah sekarang kalau tempat majority malay dan sekolah tu takde chinese/indian.. diorang tend to jadi racist shit. Same goes to SJKC/SJKT.\nWhich brings us to this topic. The call for the abolishment of vernacular schools could be seen as an attempt to extinct the Chinese culture, at least this is what some believe. You know what's not helping? The fact that some roads are being changed to Malay names. Roads that were formerly named after Chinese. I remember one was a police officer who fought against the communists. Somewhere in Perak, IIRC, and the descendants had to ask the public for help.\nLike I mentioned in my previous comment, what we're afraid, is that some extreme quarters might use this as a stepping stone to further erode Chinese culture. But if everyone is worried about vernacular schools, then why don't we just close all sekolah kebangsaan, send every kid into vernacular schools so that they can learn more languages, and make it a compulsory policy that the medium of instruction must be in bahasa Malaysia? At least from the SMJK that I came from, we spoke Bahasa Malaysia and I remember that we have Malay and Indian classmates too. There was this Indian guy in my class who was the star of the school for being able to moonwalk.\nThen there's the issue of UEC, which is actually a non-issue to me. Yg nk recognise UEC ni hanya dari private school cina, which is completely different from vernacular schools. Vernacular schools ni pakai syllabus pendidikan kebangsaan, tp skh private ni biasanya pakai syllabus Taiwan. Biasa org Kaya je yg hantar anak pergi situ. Klu yg miskin mcm I ni, we don't even care about UEC. Dong zong ni sound more like Batu api je to me. But there might be an argument in its favor that by not recognising UEC, this might - just maybe - contribute to the brain drain that is now plaguing our country.\nTalking about politics, my concern is that certain DAP MPs frequently criticize Muslim beliefs. This is the significant contributing factor to the unease among the Malays towards DAP which is predominantly Chinese. Contohnya majority Malays Muslim tak suka PAS, tapi DAP supporter (mostly dalam this sub) hina PAS tanpa sedar bahawa dia hina certain things related to Islam. Seriously ni buat aku tak puas hati.\nThis I confess to feeling that DAP MPs should lower their heads and just focus on producing results. Yg pandangan liberalisme tu mungkin sebaik baik nya tone down ckit, like I mentioned before. Kita bkn Europe, bkn UK, bkn US. Just like our constitutional monarchy. If we are having both a monarchy and a parliament, then IMHO I don't believe - at least after watching that keluar Sekejap episode - that going full liberalism will work in Malaysia. Being polarised won't work on this soil, therefore it needs to be a spectrum, or better still, a balance.", "Okay totally agreed with you. Maafkan I if I buat you tersinggung with my words. Thank you 🙏🏼", "No problem man. It's dialogue like this that we can resolve misunderstanding and differences." ], [ "poster-Atuk is more like it" ], [ "No" ], [ "FBI most wanted poster?" ], [ "More like poster child for segregation" ] ]

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[ [ "When former finance minister Daim Zainuddin failed to explain the sources of his wealth, the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) seized control of the iconic Ilham Tower in Kuala Lumpur, owned by the Daim family.\nImagine how many other politicians can't explain their wealth. This guy got caught because he's not in power anymore." ], [ "Malaysian:29091:: :26555:" ] ]

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[ [ "Hmm, 🧐 read like a generic text generated from ai chat gpt. Is it really written by a human author with a brain? Doubtful.", "Using AI to write an article about why AI is bad.\n5head move" ], [ "Now go back to your cave, DR. IRMA SYARLINA CHE ILIAS.\nThis is why we can't progress as society, too fragile to handle anything." ], [ "Worry that AI don't respect the Malaysia cultures?\nIs the author so dumb to not realize that the AI is part of the tool we used in our daily life?\nNow you want AI, the robot and the tool to respect the cultures?", "There's valid criticism there, remember how Google Photos categorised black faces as gorillas in 2015? Current AI is reliant on its training datasets, as in GIGO. Or how colour film were optimised for light skin colour, as in unconscious bias.\nAlthough I suspect the writer is thinking more of 'malaysian islamic' culture than actual Malay or Malaysian culture when she wrote this.", "The author has some valid points but i think you are right. The question then will be at what point does political correctness or something as nebulous as \"cultural sensitivity\" transition from being an acceptable constraint variable to a detrimental or absurd nuisance. Will we for example, end up with the AI refusing to create an image of a bikini girl when it detects the prompt engineer is a muslim or Malaysian? Or will it automatically generate a bikini girl with a hijab attached? If i prompt dallE to create an image of a young blue haired female wizard wearing a pointy hat in anime style, will it draw something approximating my beloved Roxy-chan or will I end up with a hijabi just because the AI detected my Malaysian IP? Or will dallE just tell me, that prompt is \"not halal\" because there are elements of idolatry? It may seem I'm trivialising this but I'm not. There ought to be clear guidelines of course, but we need to be realistic too.", "https://www.404media.co/laion-datasets-removed-stanford-csam-child-abuse/\nThe model is a massive part of the AI-ecosystem, used by Stable Diffusion and other major generative AI products. The removal follows discoveries made by Stanford researchers, who found thousands instances of suspected child sexual abuse material in the dataset." ], [ "Sikit sikit terancam\nBalik gua je" ], [ "AI will just generate whatever; we the human needs to filter" ], [ "Rencana ini baca macam sesuatu yang dihasilkan oleh AI. Gaya penulisan terlalu generik." ], [ "Anwar Ibrahim tak hormat budaya malaysia:26557:" ], [ "the author smoke weed or what with this article?" ], [ "Must be jumping into one of local AI image communities and suddenly making a shallow statement." ], [ "Don't worry, KL would become the hub for the Pan-Asian Deep Learning Conference in the near future. I know, cos I saw it mentioned in JT's song, Filthy mv." ] ]

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[ [ "Just a reminder, dating apps is a tool for the good looking. If ure not there, you ll just be a statistic", "What would you consider a decent amount of matches for a man on a daily basis?", "if youre a decent 6 maybe 1 or 2 matches in a month or 2", "A MONTH?", "IF you're even lucky.\nwomen who are 6-10s usually swipe on 7-10s. sometimes even if you're a 7 you get rejected.\ndue to supply and demand, women get to be more picky. in fact some men who are 7-9s actually swipe on women at 5-6s hoping to score \"an easy meal\". this helps make women view themselves as valuable and cause them to be extra picky.\nthis actually happens on the flipside with women where men ignore them if theyre lower on the beauty scale BUT men being men would lower their standards when they get despo/horny so the disparity is still worse on the men side.", "I just joined on Thursday and thought my 32 matches were kinda low, considering I saw a female friend get 99+ likes in an hour.", "you are definitely above average, i m happy and envious of you.\nbut as you see with the comparison of your female friend, thats how the disparity is like.", "but as you see with the comparison of your female friend, thats how the disparity is like.\nAnd she still wasn't satisfied, that's the amazing part.", "well theres a simple explanation to that.\nshes a woman you see", "or static noise" ], [ "Hah, OP nak dating lah tu.\nOnline dating tarak sihat punya la." ], [ "Ime horrible even now im dating someone from SG not muslim and im malay but who knows my experience is biased", "Did you meet the Singaporean online?", "Yeah", "So, it sounded like it worked :-)", "And the weird part is that it worked because i put weird stuff i like and do on the profile and that usually never work" ], [ "Tantan KL experience.\nIf they arent trying to scam me or sex for money, they all speak Chinese...I'm a banana" ], [ "Cmb. Met a local Chinese girl. Not the goddess type but with their kind of wish.\nDinner and drink, chao." ], [ "It's either your Hot Stuff or you're Not Stuff" ] ]

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[ [ "Why the f they keep buying this vaccine? You'd think the state of covid outbreak in China would've proven its ineffectiveness.", "License is with Pharmaniaga, iirc. That's why it's still available.", "Sinovac uses the same delivery tech as all the other vaccines you've had since you were a baby. Pfizer is MRNA, of which was the first human approved for COVID.\nI'd rather take Sinovac than version 1.0 of Pfizer.", "That’s like saying because panadol is around longer than chemotherapy, you trust it more to cure cancer. An ineffective drug is ineffective, regardless of age.", "Sucks for you that's a poor analogy of the situation.\nMy kid got Sinovac with no adverse effects and she's never got COVID. I wanted to wait for it but took AZ instead. I had COVID before the vaccine was available but I haven't gotten it since.", "I took Sinovac and I got covid.", "I took AZ and got covid too.", "Are we going back to 2020 debates about covid all over again? Omg, I'm getting whiplash.", "Same goes to Bivalent crap, just as ineffective but more harmful.", "Lay off the reddit propaganda lol. China's covid deaths were extremely low, certainly much lower per capita than many western countries like America.", "It's Malaysia's own MOH study in 2021 which shows sinovac was less effective than Pfizer. Is that reddit propaganda too?", "Sup lil pink" ], [ "https://www.malaysianow.com/news/2023/06/13/malaysia-to-receive-2-7-million-covid-bivalent-jabs-to-replace-expiring-stock --> deheck happened about this?", "my guess, songlap~~~" ], [ "anyone knows where could i get an updated pfizer vaccine shot?", "Private Healthcare maybe?", "also interested in this.", "Singapore. There’s an option to pay for the vaccine for non residents or something.", "Malaysians residing in their home country who wish to get the new XBB.1.5 mRNA vaccine can book an appointment in Singapore and pay for their jab under Singapore’s private vaccination programme. Moderna’s XBB.1.5 vaccine is priced at SG$158 (RM553) per dose (inclusive of GST).\nI don't think i can afford that ='(", "Better don't waste tax payer money on these expensive rubbish. Drug addicts can find loan sharks.", "The article says you gotta go to Singapore to get moderna.", "under Singapore’s private vaccination programme. Moderna’s XBB.1.5 vaccine is priced at SG$158 (RM553) per dose (inclusive of GST).\nGuess im too poor for the vax" ], [ "Lolno, I have 2 Pfizer and 1 Moderna doses.\nNo way I'm taking an inferior vaccine. Get the updated Pfizer or Moderna shots and then we'll talk.", "Does Malaysia have Novavax?" ], [ "Been waiting forever for bivalent vaccine I guess at this point it's just a pipe dream someone's been smoking" ], [ "as someone who works in a company under the same umbrella as Pharmaniaga... fuck off Pharma" ], [ "Hell to the no. I ain’t taking Sinovac." ], [ "Took the vax, not even a fever when I got hit with Delta" ], [ "I can't use Sinovac, that thing hit me like a truck.", "Sinovac doesn't hit me like truck but definitely hit me harder compare to Pfizer but when I finally got hit by Covid...shit that was rough. 3 freaking day of head splitting pain...like super pain literally crippled me from doing anything other than sleep it off. Follow by whole week of fever, bad cough especially at night,lost of taste+ smell and sore throat....take me like 10 days to recover.", "I just passed out in front of my supervisor. Luckily she knows I have the jab before I come to the shift.", "Dang boys! You take it to another level.", "Well, it helps when her family has the same symptoms when they get the vaccines." ], [ "not gonna bother\nMy 2 shots of pfizer is enough." ], [ "nope lol." ], [ "No." ], [ "Vaccine cartel: (clenches fist) (hissing sounds)" ] ]