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date wed NUMBER aug NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER from chris garrigues cwg dated NUMBER NUMBERfaNUMBERd deepeddy com message id NUMBER NUMBER tmda deepeddy vircio com i can t reproduce this error for me it is very repeatable like every time without fail this is the debug log of the pick happening NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER pick_it exec pick inbox list lbrace lbrace subject ftp rbrace rbrace NUMBER NUMBER sequence mercury NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER exec pick inbox list lbrace lbrace subject ftp rbrace rbrace NUMBER NUMBER sequence mercury NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER ftoc_pickmsgs NUMBER hit NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER marking NUMBER hits NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER tkerror syntax error in expression int note if i run the pick command by hand delta pick inbox list lbrace lbrace subject ftp rbrace rbrace NUMBER NUMBER sequence mercury NUMBER hit that s where the NUMBER hit comes from obviously the version of nmh i m using is delta pick version pick nmh NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER compiled on URL at sun mar NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER ict NUMBER and the relevant part of my mh_profile delta mhparam pick seq sel list since the pick command works the sequence actually both of them the one that s explicit on the command line from the search popup and the one that comes from mh_profile do get created kre ps this is still using the version of the code form a day ago i haven t been able to reach the cvs repository today local routing issue i think _______________________________________________ exmh workers mailing list exmh workers URL URL | 0 |
martin a posted tassos papadopoulos the greek sculptor behind the plan judged that the limestone of mount kerdylio NUMBER miles east of salonika and not far from the mount athos monastic community was ideal for the patriotic sculpture as well as alexander s granite features NUMBER ft high and NUMBER ft wide a museum a restored amphitheatre and car park for admiring crowds are planned so is this mountain limestone or granite if it s limestone it ll weather pretty fast yahoo groups sponsor NUMBER dvds free s p join now URL to unsubscribe from this group send an email to forteana unsubscribe URL your use of yahoo groups is subject to URL | 0 |
man threatens explosion in moscow thursday august NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER pm moscow ap security officers on thursday seized an unidentified man who said he was armed with explosives and threatened to blow up his truck in front of russia s federal security services headquarters in moscow ntv television reported the officers seized an automatic rifle the man was carrying then the man got out of the truck and was taken into custody ntv said no other details were immediately available the man had demanded talks with high government officials the interfax and itar tass news agencies said ekho moskvy radio reported that he wanted to talk with russian president vladimir putin police and security forces rushed to the security service building within blocks of the kremlin red square and the bolshoi ballet and surrounded the man who claimed to have one and a half tons of explosives the news agencies said negotiations continued for about one and a half hours outside the building itar tass and interfax reported citing witnesses the man later drove away from the building under police escort and drove to a street near moscow s olympic penta hotel where authorities held further negotiations with him the moscow police press service said the move appeared to be an attempt by security services to get him to a more secure location yahoo groups sponsor NUMBER dvds free s p join now URL to unsubscribe from this group send an email to forteana unsubscribe URL your use of yahoo groups is subject to URL | 0 |
klez the virus that won t die already the most prolific virus ever klez continues to wreak havoc andrew brandt from the september NUMBER issue of pc world magazine posted thursday august NUMBER NUMBER the klez worm is approaching its seventh month of wriggling across the web making it one of the most persistent viruses ever and experts warn that it may be a harbinger of new viruses that use a combination of pernicious approaches to go from pc to pc antivirus software makers symantec and mcafee both report more than NUMBER new infections daily with no sign of letup at press time the british security firm messagelabs estimates that NUMBER in every NUMBER e mail messages holds a variation of the klez virus and says that klez has already surpassed last summer s sircam as the most prolific virus ever and some newer klez variants aren t merely nuisances they can carry other viruses in them that corrupt your data URL _______________________________________________ irregulars mailing list irregulars URL URL | 0 |
in adding cream to spaghetti carbonara which has the same effect on pasta as making a pizza a deep pie i just had to jump in here as carbonara is one of my favourites to make and ask what the hell are you supposed to use instead of cream i ve never seen a recipe that hasn t used this personally i use low fat creme fraiche because it works quite nicely but the only time i ve seen an supposedly authentic recipe for carbonara it was identical to mine cream eggs and lots of fresh parmesan except for the creme fraiche stew stewart smith scottish microelectronics centre university of edinburgh URL yahoo groups sponsor NUMBER dvds free s p join now URL to unsubscribe from this group send an email to forteana unsubscribe URL your use of yahoo groups is subject to URL | 0 |
i just had to jump in here as carbonara is one of my favourites to make and ask what the hell are you supposed to use instead of cream isn t it just basically a mixture of beaten egg and bacon or pancetta really you mix in the raw egg to the cooked pasta and the heat of the pasta cooks the egg that s my understanding martin yahoo groups sponsor NUMBER dvds free s p join now URL to unsubscribe from this group send an email to forteana unsubscribe URL your use of yahoo groups is subject to URL | 0 |
the scotsman NUMBER august NUMBER playboy wants to go out with a bang an ageing berlin playboy has come up with an unusual offer to lure women into his bed by promising the last woman he sleeps with an inheritance of NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER rolf eden NUMBER a berlin disco owner famous for his countless sex partners said he could imagine no better way to die than in the arms of an attractive young woman preferably under NUMBER i put it all in my last will and testament the last woman who sleeps with me gets all the money mr eden told bild newspaper i want to pass away in the most beautiful moment of my life first a lot of fun with a beautiful woman then wild sex a final orgasm and it will all end with a heart attack and then i m gone mr eden who is selling his nightclub this year said applications should be sent in quickly because of his age it could end very soon he said yahoo groups sponsor NUMBER dvds free s p join now URL to unsubscribe from this group send an email to forteana unsubscribe URL your use of yahoo groups is subject to URL | 0 |
martin adamson wrote isn t it just basically a mixture of beaten egg and bacon or pancetta really you mix in the raw egg to the cooked pasta and the heat of the pasta cooks the egg that s my understanding you re probably right mine s just the same but with the cream added to the eggs i guess i should try it without actually looking on the internet for a recipe i found this one from possibly one of the scariest people i ve ever seen and he s a us congressman URL that s one of the worst non smiles ever stew ps apologies if any of the list s maine residents voted for this man you won t do it again once you ve seen this pic stewart smith scottish microelectronics centre university of edinburgh URL yahoo groups sponsor NUMBER dvds free s p join now URL to unsubscribe from this group send an email to forteana unsubscribe URL your use of yahoo groups is subject to URL | 0 |
the scotsman thu NUMBER aug NUMBER meaningful sentences tracey lawson if you ever wanted to look like one of the most dangerous inmates in prison history as one judge described charles bronson now s your chance bronson the serial hostage taker not the movie star has written a health and fitness guide in which he shares some of the secrets behind his legendary muscle power solitary fitness a title which bears testament to the fact that bronson NUMBER has spent NUMBER of his NUMBER prison years in solitary confinement explains how he has turned himself into a lean mean fitness machine while living NUMBER hours a day in a space just NUMBER feet by eight feet on a diet of scrubs grub and at virtually no cost the book is aimed at those who want to get fabulously fit without spending a fortune on gym memberships protein supplements or designer trainers and starts with a fierce attack on some of the expensive myths churned out by the exercise industry i pick up a fitness mag i start to laugh and i wipe my arse with it is the opening paragraph penned by bronson it s a joke and a big con and they call me a criminal you can t help feeling he has a point this is not the first book that bronson has written from behind bars having already published birdman opens his mind which features drawings and poems created by bronson while in prison and he is not the first prisoner to discover creative expression while residing at her majesty s pleasure jimmy boyle the scots sculptor and novelist discovered his artistic talents when he was sent to barlinnie prison s famous special unit which aimed to help inmates put their violent pasts behind them by teaching them how to express their emotions artistically boyle was sentenced to life for the murder of babs rooney in NUMBER once released he moved to edinburgh where he has become a respected artist his first novel hero of the underworld was published in NUMBER and his autobiography a sense of freedom was made into an award winning film hugh collins was jailed for life in NUMBER for the murder of william mooney in glasgow and in his first year in barlinnie prison stabbed three prison officers earning him an extra seven year sentence but after being transferred to the same unit that boyle attended he learned to sculpt and developed an interest in art he later published autobiography of a murderer a frank account of glasgow s criminal culture in the NUMBERs which received critical praise and lord archer doesn t seem to have had trouble continuing to write the books that have made him millions while in jail he recently signed a three book deal with macmillan publishers worth a reported NUMBER million and is no doubt scribbling away as we speak so why is it that men like collins bronson and boyle who can be so destructive towards society on the outside can become so creative once stuck on the inside steve richards bronson s publisher has published many books about criminal figures and believes the roots of this phenomenon are both pragmatic and profound he says prison is sometimes the first time some criminals will ever have known a stable environment and this can be the first time they have the chance to focus on their creative skills it may also be the first time that they have really had the chance of an education if their early years have been hard it could be the first time anyone has offered them the chance to explore their creative talents however richards believes the reasons are also deeper than that he says once they are behind bars the cold light of day hits them and they examine the very essence of who they are they ask themselves am i a man who wants to be remembered for violence or am i a man who can contribute to society who can be remembered for something good bronson who was born michael gordon peterson but changed his name to that of the hollywood star of the death wish films has so far been remembered mainly for things bad he was originally jailed for seven years for armed robbery in NUMBER and has had a series of sentences added to his original term over the years as a result of attacking people in prison in NUMBER he was jailed for life after being convicted of holding a teacher hostage for nearly two days during a jail siege standing five feet ten and a half inches tall and weighing NUMBERlbs he is renowned for his strength he has bent metal cell doors with his bare hands and does up to NUMBER NUMBER yes NUMBER NUMBER press ups a day as he puts it i can hit a man NUMBER times in four seconds i can push NUMBER press ups in NUMBER seconds but judging by our current obsession with health and exercise solitary fitness might be the book which will see bronson s face sitting on every coffee table in the land he might be the man to give us the dream body which so many so called fitness gurus promise but fail to motivate us into because bronson has learned to use words as powerfully as he can use his fists all this crap about high protein drinks pills diets it s just a load of bollocks and a multi million pound racket he writes in what can only be described as a refreshingly honest style we can all be fat lazy bastards it s our choice i m sick of hearing and reading about excuses if you stuff your face with shit you become shit that s logical to me as motivational mantras go that might be just the kick up the er backside we all needed solitary fitness by charles bronson is published by mirage publishing and will be available in bookstores from october at NUMBER NUMBER yahoo groups sponsor NUMBER dvds free s p join now URL to unsubscribe from this group send an email to forteana unsubscribe URL your use of yahoo groups is subject to URL | 0 |
i have been trying to research via sa mirrors and search engines if a canned script exists giving clients access to their user_prefs options via a web based cgi interface numerous isps provide this feature to clients but so far i can find nothing our configuration uses amavis postfix and clamav for virus filtering and procmail with spamassassin for spam filtering i would prefer not to have to write a script myself but will appreciate any suggestions this URL email is sponsored by osdn tired of that same old cell phone get a new here for free URL _______________________________________________ spamassassin talk mailing list spamassassin talk URL URL | 0 |
hello have you seen and discussed this article and his approach thank you URL hell there are no rules here we re trying to accomplish something thomas alva edison this URL email is sponsored by osdn tired of that same old cell phone get a new here for free URL _______________________________________________ spamassassin devel mailing list spamassassin devel URL URL | 0 |
yes great minds think alike but even withput eval rules it would be very useful it would allow us to respond quickly to spammer s tricks theo van dinter wrote on thu aug NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERam NUMBER marc perkel wrote has anyone though of the idea of live updates of rules after release the idea being that the user can run a cron job once a week or so and get the new default rule set this would allow us to react faster to i suggested this a few months ago i don t remember the details of what came out of it except that it would only be useful for non eval rules since those require code changes this URL email is sponsored by osdn tired of that same old cell phone get a new here for free URL _______________________________________________ spamassassin devel mailing list spamassassin devel URL URL | 0 |
on mon aug NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERpm NUMBER john p looney mentioned this is likely because to get it to boot like the cobalt i m actually passing root dev hdaNUMBER to the kernel not dev mdNUMBER just to solve this the reason i was booting the box with root dev hdaNUMBER not dev mdNUMBER was because dev mdNUMBER wasn t booting it would barf with can t find init it turns out that this is because i was populating mdNUMBER with tar which seems to have issues with crosslinked files for instance it was trying to make a hard link of URL to hda and failing it was only as i did it again with a friend present that he spotted the errors and queried them we noticed that the hard linked files just didn t exist on the new rootfs when we duplicated the filesystems with dump instead of tar it worked fine i was able to tell lilo to use root dev mdNUMBER and everything worked woohoo kate irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
from chris garrigues cwg exmh deepeddy com date wed NUMBER aug NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER from chris garrigues cwg exmh deepeddy com date wed NUMBER aug NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER ouch i ll get right on it from robert elz kre munnari oz au date wed NUMBER aug NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER any chance of having that lengthen instead i like all my exmh stuff in nice columns fits the display better that is i use the detache d folder list one column the main exmh window takes up full screen top to bottom but less than half the width etc i thought about that the first order approximation would be to just add using pack side top instead of pack side left however since their each a different width it would look funny i ve done this it s not as pretty as i think it should be but it works i m going to leave the cosmetic issues to others when i update the documentation i ll add this to the exmh todo file i m leaving for a NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER week vacation in a week so this is the last new functionality i m going to add for a while also i now have pretty much everything in there that i want for my own use so i m probably pretty much done i ll work on bug fixes and documentation before my vacation and hopefully do nothing more afterwards chris chris garrigues URL vircio URL NUMBER congress suite NUMBER austin tx NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER world war iii the wrong doers vs the evil doers | 0 |
spamassassin is hurting democracy owen URL internet can level the political playing field by mike mccurry and larry purpuro not many months from now people across the country will experience one of the great recurring features of american democracy at shopping malls on factory floors at church socials and even on our front stoops we will be approached by individuals who want to represent us in public office while chances are high that we won t know them personally they will walk up to us offer a handshake and a flier and ask for our votes just as technology is affecting every other area of communication it has begun to affect the way political candidates communicate with voters in this year s gop gubernatorial primary california secretary of state bill jones who faced better funded candidates acquired the e mail addresses of more than a million potential california voters and sent each an unsolicited e mail asking for support that day he might have chosen any of the more traditional and more expensive methods of contacting voters such as direct mail radio spots or tv ads but he spent only about NUMBER cents per message instead of NUMBER cents or more per message for direct mail or in another medium had jones chosen direct mail radio or tv that communication would have been equally unsolicited as defined in the e mail world few voters would have opted in to receive campaign information from jones through any of those channels the response to jones e mail effort however was swift and intense he was lambasted by anti spam advocates and media coverage was almost entirely negative to be fair some of jones tactics could have been refined he used a less than perfect list and no standard practice paid for disclaimer in the message his detractors however attacked him not for his tactical miscues but because the e mail was sent unsolicited in fact jones online campaign may have been his most visible asset in an era of cynicism toward money in politics money typically spent on other unsolicited communication mediums jones tried to level the playing field no one likes commercial spam it is irrelevant and untargeted and can be highly intrusive and even offensive but as a sophisticated society it s time to differentiate commercial spam from very different unsolicited e mail sent by political candidates to voters the debate is particularly relevant in light of legislation in congress that would constitute the first federal law to directly address spam we believe e mail is no more intrusive than direct mail telemarketing or tv advertising when it comes to politicians seeking to reach voters a simple link in good e mail campaigns allows recipients to opt out of future mailings direct mail takes at least a phone call or stamp to be taken off a list and viewers must repeatedly endure tv ads when a candidate lacks a large campaign war chest he or she can use the internet to provide constituents with information to better prepare them to perform their civic duty of casting educated votes with more than NUMBER percent of all potential voters in this country possessing e mail accounts it makes sense that political candidates use this medium candidates might avoid some of the tactical problems encountered by the jones campaign if they use the technologies available today that better ensure quality of e mail lists and target content to specific recipient groups but the broader point remains when a political candidate sends a voter an e mail that recipient can choose to delete the message without opening it unsubscribe from the list read it or even reply and engage the sender that choice should belong to the voter not to anti spam advocates whose efforts are better focused on commercial e mail political candidates should be free to communicate with voters as best they can and let voters decide what to do with that information mike mccurry former press secretary for president clinton is ceo of an advocacy management and communications software company larry purpuro the former republican national committee deputy chief of staff is founder and president of a political e marketing firm this was written for the los angeles times URL | 0 |
hi all apologies for the possible silly question i don t think it is but but is eircom s adsl service nat ed and what implications would that have for voip i know there are difficulties with voip or connecting to clients connected to a nat ed network from the internet wild i e machines with static real ips any help pointers would be helpful cheers rgrds bernard bernard tyers national centre for sensor research p NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER e bernard tyers URL w URL l nNUMBER _______________________________________________ iiu mailing list iiu URL URL | 0 |
in forteana y d mcmann dmcmann b wrote robert moaby NUMBER who sent death threats to staff was also jailed for hoarding indecent pictures of children on his home computer hmm if i didn t trust our government and secret police i could look at this another way there is a bit of circumstantial evidence apparently some mt listers were approached by him via email a little research in dejanews google groups showed a number of messages from him clearly hoping to contact girls appearing in alt teens and similar groups i just tried a google groups search on robert moaby and some of them came top of the list note for marie mt stands for mark thomas a slightly slimmer uk version of your michael moore the mailing list is named after him rob yahoo groups sponsor NUMBER dvds free s p join now URL to unsubscribe from this group send an email to forteana unsubscribe URL your use of yahoo groups is subject to URL | 0 |
in a nutshell solaris is suns own flavour of unix original message from kiall mac innes mailto kiall redpie com sent NUMBER august NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER to ilug subject ilug sun solaris can someone explain what type of operating system solaris is as ive never seen or used it i dont know wheather to get a server from sun or from dell i would prefer a linux based server and sun seems to be the one for that but im not sure if solaris is a distro of linux or a completely different operating system can someone explain kiall mac innes irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
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can someone explain what type of operating system solaris is as ive never seen or used it i dont know wheather to get a server from sun or from dell i would prefer a linux based server and sun seems to be the one for that but im not sure if solaris is a distro of linux or a completely different operating system can someone explain kiall mac innes irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
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on thu aug NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERpm NUMBER fergal moran mentioned in a nutshell solaris is suns own flavour of unix though i m sure that this nice person would like a bit more detail solaris is quite different to linux though these days you can make solaris act a lot like linux with an extra cd of gnu tools sun ship with solaris it is based on the sysv unix family so it s quite similar to other unixen like hpux and sco sun s hardware in general is more reliable and a lot more expensive one of the main bonuses you get by buying sun is that you are getting your hardware and software from one company so if you have a support contract they have to fix it they can t fob you off with that s a software problem talk to the software vendor etc if you are set on linux you most likely can do your own support there is then a world of different hardware options you can run linux on sparc though some companies like redhat don t maintain a sparc port anymore you can also buy your machine from linux oriented companies like dnuk who do machines designed to run linux and their own version of linux that has a few extras for their machines or you can get a machine from a cheaper company like dell and it ll most likely work most of the time john irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
john p looney wrote on thu aug NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERpm NUMBER fergal moran mentioned in a nutshell solaris is suns own flavour of unix though i m sure that this nice person would like a bit more detail solaris is quite different to linux though these days you can make solaris act a lot like linux with an extra cd of gnu tools sun ship with solaris it is based on the sysv unix family so it s quite similar to other unixen like hpux and sco sun s hardware in general is more reliable and a lot more expensive one of the main bonuses you get by buying sun is that you are getting your hardware and software from one company so if you have a support contract they have to fix it they can t fob you off with that s a software problem talk to the software vendor etc if you are set on linux you most likely can do your own support there is then a world of different hardware options you can run linux on sparc though some companies like redhat don t maintain a sparc port anymore you can also buy your machine from linux oriented companies like dnuk who do machines designed to run linux and their own version of linux that has a few extras for their machines or you can get a machine from a cheaper company like dell and it ll most likely work most of the time why do you say dell is cheaper than dnuk it gets a bit complicated though URL pádraig irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
hey it s not easy being green leslie leslie ellen jones ph d jack of all trades and doctor of folklore lejones URL truth is an odd number flann o brien original message from dino to zzzzteana URL sent thursday august NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER am subject re zzzzteana which muppet are you damn kermit boring wanna be rizzo he s the coolest dino yahoo groups sponsor advertisement to unsubscribe from this group send an email to forteana unsubscribe URL your use of yahoo groups is subject to the yahoo terms of service non text portions of this message have been removed yahoo groups sponsor NUMBER dvds free s p join now URL to unsubscribe from this group send an email to forteana unsubscribe URL your use of yahoo groups is subject to URL | 0 |
on thu NUMBER aug NUMBER john p looney wrote sun s hardware in general is more reliable rofl not in our experience well at least our caps lock keys work peter URL said another problem i have a dell branded keyboard and if i hit caps lock twice the whole machine crashes in linux not windows even the on off switch is inactive leaving me to reach for the power cable instead p bauwolf URL said as if he wanted solaris NUMBER for xNUMBER he d be waiting a bit erm it runs solaris xNUMBER as standard cheers al expressed in this posting are my opinions they are in no way related to opinions held by my employer sun microsystems statements on sun products included here are not gospel and may be fiction rather than truth irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
you have multiple generations of peasants squatters that cultivate and live on the lands almost as a human parts of the property package when i d read that getting legal title can take NUMBER years when i believe that NUMBER year ought to be more than sufficient and helped by the cairo reference i d assumed that we were talking about the urban poor if i see people living in mansions or even in suburban subdivisions i assume they didn t have too much trouble with their titles if i see people living in shanties and haphazard alleyways i tend to assume their parcels weren t exactly recorded on the government maps or paid for with a bank loan especially when nearby vacant lots have shotgun wielding men presumably intent on keeping them development free now it may be that manhattanites view of america to say that outside of metro manila davao and maybe another city or two cebu everything else literally is the boondocks but going on that very broad assumption i guess i m describing the flip side of mr roger s experience the paisanos who leave behind those who remain on a patron s rural land move to manila and the second assumption squat in shantytowns there at least until they can line up a middle class job so going on two large assumptions i can come up with a scenario under which title would take NUMBER years a shantytown arises somewhere in the midst of a section or whatever the spanish used to divvy up the land and it takes decades of arguing to put together a package which somehow can both compensate the owner and record lots for the inhabitants just transferring title to an existing lot between parties who have money ought not to be a problem the obvious solution at least to us barking farting chihuahuas on fork is to introduce market mechanisms it is left as an exercise to come up with one which works when many of the agents are perceived to have negligible npv dave land reform meant that all the agricultural producers had to plant crops all the time profitable or not what happened to more highly capitalized land putting in trees instead of crops sounds like it might sidestep that mr long i think you d particularly enjoy the de soto work on the to find list any chance of an explanation of that bell jar in the meantime URL | 0 |
folks my first time posting have a bit of unix experience but am new to linux just got a new pc at home dell box with windows xp added a second hard disk for linux partitioned the disk and have installed suse NUMBER NUMBER from cd which went fine except it didn t pick up my monitor i have a dell branded eNUMBERfpp NUMBER lcd flat panel monitor and a nvidia geforceNUMBER tiNUMBER video card both of which are probably too new to feature in suse s default set i downloaded a driver from the nvidia website and installed it using rpm then i ran saxNUMBER as was recommended in some postings i found on the net but it still doesn t feature my video card in the available list what next another problem i have a dell branded keyboard and if i hit caps lock twice the whole machine crashes in linux not windows even the on off switch is inactive leaving me to reach for the power cable instead if anyone can help me in any way with these probs i d be really grateful i ve searched the net but have run out of ideas or should i be going for a different version of linux such as redhat opinions welcome thanks a lot peter irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
on thu NUMBER aug NUMBER joseph s barrera iii wrote why wait until you re dead i m sure there s enough carbon in the fat from your typical liposuction job to make a decent diamond so thats why i keep seeing debeers agents hovering around me tom diamonds in the folds of my flesh wsmf URL | 0 |
joseph s barrera iii wrote chris haun wrote a lifegem is a certified high quality diamond created from the carbon of your loved one as a memorial to their unique and wonderful life why wait until you re dead i m sure there s enough carbon in the fat from your typical liposuction job to make a decent diamond joe oh hell what about excrement i d love to be able to say no the sun doesn t shine out of my ass but there s the occasional diamond owen URL | 0 |
update on this for anyone that s interested and because i like closed threads nothing worse than an infinite while loop is there i ended up formatting a floppy on my flatmate s un networked pNUMBER running fatNUMBER winNUMBER and mcopied the contents of the bootdisk across now i have a fatNUMBER winNUMBER install running alongside slackware and can play metal gear solid when the mood takes me ciaran on wednesday NUMBER august NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER ciaran johnston wrote dublin said if you copy the files from your disk to the c partition and mark it as active it should work yeah i figured that but it doesn t seem to well if that s the case i ll give it another go tonight maybe come back with some error messages just to clarify for those who didn t understand me initially i have a floppy drive installed but it doesn t physically work there s nowhere handy to pick one up where i am and i don t fancy waiting a few days for one to arrive from peats thanks for the answers ciaran you especially need io sys URL and msdos sys your cd driver sys and read the autoexec bat and config sys files for hints on what you did with your boot floppy g p on wed NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER ciaran johnston wrote hi folks the situation is this at home i have a pc with NUMBER NUMBERgig hdds and no working floppy drive i have been running linux solely for the last year but recently got the urge to among other things play some of my windoze games i normally install the windows partition using a boot floppy which i have conveniently zipped up but i haven t any way of writing or reading a floppy so how do i go about NUMBER formatting a c drive with system files normally i would use format s c from the floppy NUMBER installing the cdrom drivers my bootdisk i wrote it many years ago does this normally NUMBER booting from the partition i wiped all my linux partitions from the first drive and created partitions for windows hdaNUMBER slackware and redhat i used cfdisk for this i made the first drive hda bootable i then installed the windows partition in lilo and reran lilo installed in mbr i copied the contents of URL to my new windows partition and tried to boot it all i get is a garbled line of squiggles anyone any ideas i can t think of anywhere in athlone to get a new floppy drive this evening thanks ciaran irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
has anyone seen heard of used some package that would let a random person go to a webpage create a mailing list then administer that list also of course let ppl sign up for the lists and manage their subscriptions similar to the old URL but i d like to have it running on my server not someone elses chris URL | 0 |
an apparent quote from dubya from the times sent to me by my dad URL tony blair s special relationship with george w bush is under considerable strain not only do the two disagree on yassir arafat s tenure as leader of the palestinian authority but blair has started telling disparaging anecdotes about the president baroness williams of crosby recalled a story told to her by my good friend tony blair recently in brighton blair bush and jacques chirac were discussing economics and in particular the decline of the french economy the problem with the french bush confided in blair is that they don t have a word for entrepreneur r URL | 0 |
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mark twomey joked erm it runs solaris xNUMBER as standard it runs solaris NUMBER xNUMBER as standard i was joking al and will run solaris NUMBER when sun catch up with the xNUMBER drivers and kernel although don t hold your breath for the free dvd it will never come spot the person who applied for the free solaris NUMBER dvd only to be told three months later it is no longer available mutter fwiw solaris and linux seem to be getting closer all the time i can no longer see any specific reason why one is better than the other expect red hat solaris NUMBER any time now grin matthew __________________________________________________ do you yahoo everything you ll ever need on one web page from news and sport to email and music charts URL irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
on thu aug NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERpm NUMBER robert harley wrote an apparent quote from dubya from the times sent to me by my dad URL URL claim president george w bush proclaimed the problem with the french is that they don t have a word for entrepreneur origins yet another french fried george w bush is dumb story has been taken up by those who like their caricatures drawn in stark bold lines according to scuttlebutt that emerged in the british press in july NUMBER president bush britain s prime minister tony blair and france s president jacques chirac were discussing economics and in particular the decline of the french economy the problem with the french bush afterwards confided in blair is that they don t have a word for entrepreneur the source was shirley williams also known as the baroness williams of crosby who claimed my good friend tony blair had recently regaled her with this anecdote in brighton lloyd grove of the washington post was unable to reach baroness williams to gain her confirmation of the tale but he did receive a call from alastair campbell blair s director of communications and strategy i can tell you that the prime minister never heard george bush say that and he certainly never told shirley williams that president bush did say it campbell told the post if she put this in a speech it must have been a joke this is far from the first time bush has been made the butt of a jibe meant to showcase what some perceive as his less than stellar intellectual abilities without straining our memories too hard we can come up with three other instances we ve chronicled on this site in the summer of NUMBER the joke of the moment centered upon a supposed study that had resulted in the ranking of presidential iqs with george w bush being pegged as the chief executive who scraped the bottom of the intelligence barrel in december NUMBER it was a fake nostradamus quatrain which pontificated that the village idiot would win the NUMBER presidential election and in the spring of NUMBER it was the story of bush s waving at stevie wonder that set folks to chortling up their sleeves stories that illustrate this widely believed intellectual shortcoming will always waft after george w bush because they seemingly confirm what many already hold as true about this public figure that he s not the brightest fellow that s ever been it is human nature to revel in yarns that the hearer at some level agrees with thus tales of this sort will always fall upon appreciative ears barbara ears of corn mikkelson last updated NUMBER july NUMBER URL | 0 |
hehe sorry but if you hit caps lock twice the computer crashes theres one ive never heard before have you tryed dell support yet i think dell computers prefer redhat dell provide some computers pre loaded with red hat i dont know for sure tho so get someone elses opnion as well as mine original message from ilug admin URL mailto ilug admin URL on behalf of peter staunton sent NUMBER august NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER to ilug URL subject ilug newbie seeks advice suse NUMBER NUMBER folks my first time posting have a bit of unix experience but am new to linux just got a new pc at home dell box with windows xp added a second hard disk for linux partitioned the disk and have installed suse NUMBER NUMBER from cd which went fine except it didn t pick up my monitor i have a dell branded eNUMBERfpp NUMBER lcd flat panel monitor and a nvidia geforceNUMBER tiNUMBER video card both of which are probably too new to feature in suse s default set i downloaded a driver from the nvidia website and installed it using rpm then i ran saxNUMBER as was recommended in some postings i found on the net but it still doesn t feature my video card in the available list what next another problem i have a dell branded keyboard and if i hit caps lock twice the whole machine crashes in linux not windows even the on off switch is inactive leaving me to reach for the power cable instead if anyone can help me in any way with these probs i d be really grateful i ve searched the net but have run out of ideas or should i be going for a different version of linux such as redhat opinions welcome thanks a lot peter irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER nick hilliard wrote apologies for the possible silly question i don t think it is but but is eircom s adsl service nat ed no you get unfiltered access with a real but dynamic ip address and what implications would that have for voip i know there are difficulties with voip or connecting to clients connected to a nat ed network from the internet wild i e machines with static real ips you will probably suffer from the high latency of dls lines typically you re talking about NUMBERms rtt to the local bas which is pretty high if your voip application can handle this then you re ok nick what s the deal with all this latency it s not like that in other places where i ve used dsl i read some story about it being done that way to allow greater distances to be covered or something like that however my knowledge of physics is really only newtonian and i don t understand how worsening latency could possibly improve the reliability of a NUMBER foot long piece of copper perhaps it has something to do with stretching the time space continuum can someone explain this in words of five syllables or less a _______________________________________________ iiu mailing list iiu URL URL antoin o lachtnain antoin URL URL NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER _______________________________________________ iiu mailing list iiu URL URL | 0 |
manoj kasichainula wrote URL claim president george w bush proclaimed the problem with the french is that they don t have a word for entrepreneur status false lloyd grove of the washington post was unable to reach baroness williams to gain her confirmation of the tale but he did receive a call from alastair campbell blair s director of communications and strategy i can tell you that the prime minister never heard george bush say that and he certainly never told shirley williams that president bush did say it campbell told the post if she put this in a speech it must have been a joke so some guy failed to reach the source but instead got spin doctor to deny it wot is he thick enough to expect official confirmation that yes blair is going around casting aspersions on bush it s an amusing anecdote i don t know if it s true or not but certainly nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion status false r URL | 0 |
lucas gonze spam is the tool for dissident news since the fact that it s unsolicited means that recipients can t be blamed for being on a mailing list that depends on how the list is collected or even on what the senders say about how the list is collected better to just put it on a website and that way it can be surfed anonymously and it doesn t clutter my inbox _________________________________________________________________ chat with friends online try msn messenger URL URL | 0 |
on NUMBER aug NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER robert harley wrote it s an amusing anecdote i don t know if it s true or not but certainly nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion status false i actually thought it was pretty funny and quite accurate who cares if the spinmeisters are denying it URL | 0 |
i downloaded a driver from the nvidia website and installed it using rpm then i ran saxNUMBER as was recommended in some postings i found on the net but it still doesn t feature my video card in the available list what next hmmm peter open a terminal and as root type lsmod you want to find a module called nvdriver if it isn t loaded then load it insmod nvdriver o oh and ensure you have this module loaded on boot else when you reboot you might be in for a nasty surprise once the kernel module is loaded vim etc xNUMBER xfNUMBERconfig in the section marked driver i have neomagic you need to have driver nvidia here is part of my xfNUMBERconfig also note that using the card you are using you should be able to safely use the fbbpp NUMBER option section module load extmod load xie load pexNUMBER load glx subsection dri you don t need to load this peter option mode NUMBER endsubsection load dbe load record load xtrap load speedo load typeNUMBER endsection plus the modelines for your monitor should be singfinicantly different section monitor identifier monitorNUMBER vendorname monitor vendor modelname monitor model horizsync NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER vertrefresh NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER modeline NUMBERxNUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER modeline NUMBERxNUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER endsection section device identifier cardNUMBER driver neomagic change this to nvidia making sure the modules are in the correct path vendorname neomagic nvidia boardname nmNUMBER busid pci NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER endsection section screen identifier screenNUMBER device cardNUMBER monitor monitorNUMBER defaultdepth NUMBER subsection display depth NUMBER endsubsection subsection display depth NUMBER endsubsection subsection display depth NUMBER endsubsection subsection display depth NUMBER endsubsection subsection display depth NUMBER endsubsection subsection display depth NUMBER fbbpp NUMBER ie you should be able lto uncomment this line modes NUMBERxNUMBER NUMBERxNUMBER NUMBERxNUMBER and add in higher resulutions as desired endsubsection endsection irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
according to my son it was actually homer simpson who claimed the french had no word for victory chuck on thursday august NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER pm robert harley wrote an apparent quote from dubya from the times sent to me by my dad URL tony blair s special relationship with george w bush is under considerable strain not only do the two disagree on yassir arafat s tenure as leader of the palestinian authority but blair has started telling disparaging anecdotes about the president baroness williams of crosby recalled a story told to her by my good friend tony blair recently in brighton blair bush and jacques chirac were discussing economics and in particular the decline of the french economy the problem with the french bush confided in blair is that they don t have a word for entrepreneur r URL URL | 0 |
whore eructed it s an amusing anecdote i don t know if it s true or not but certainly nothing here supports the authoritative sounding conclusion status false so thats the trick just let any anecdotal utterances you like be deemed true exsqueeze me but what part of i don t know if it s true or not did you fail to grok i personally doubt it simply because i never heard of bush and chirac going to brighton next time i hear a joke i promise not to laugh until i have checked out primary sources for confirmation in triplicate ok good thing we have you around to keep us on the straight and narrow all the while inundating us with such erudite profundities as kill your idols folks fight the powers that be from with out and from with in and innumerable other dippy bromides r URL | 0 |
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it will function as a router if that is what you wish it even looks like the modem s embedded os is some kind of linux being that it has interesting interfaces like ethNUMBER i don t use it as a router though i just have it do the absolute minimum dsl stuff and do all the really fun stuff like pppoe on my linux box also the manual tells you what the default password is don t forget to run pppoe over the alcatel speedtouch NUMBERi as in my case you have to have a bridge configured in the router modem s software this lists your vci values etc also does anyone know if the high end speedtouch with NUMBER ethernet ports can act as a full router or do i still need to run a pppoe stack on the linux box regards vin irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
e eirikur hallgrimsson eh mad scientist com writes e gary s news service at URL has an article on internet e saturation let me ask you if you were on a rock in the e middle of the atlantic mostly in the dark for half the year e wouldn t you like a bit of internet distraction they ve e already done the obvious and fiber ringed the island there s lots of similar places saskatchewan for example once shared with iceland the distinction of most telephone connections per capita and for a long time shared the internet penetration lead with iceland sask is a land locked massive expanse of ultra flat dust with only two rivers and farm sizes measured in the hundred thousand hectares it s still curious iceland leads maybe there s just a deep cultural curiousity and fascination with watching advertising from the rest of the world maybe they re downloading bjork videos gary lawrence murphy garym URL teledynamics communications inc business advantage through community software URL computers are useless they can only give you answers pablo picasso | 0 |
on monday august NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER am tom wrote post mg in the NUMBER s there were the colums by a k dewdney that i dug a bunch put into a book called turing omnibus and then there is of course all the goodens put out by dougy hoffstadler a k dewdney was the name i was looking for and the column was computer recreations turns out he s still in ontario and even has some homemade sci fi online URL vat man programming roger the homunculids alphie omega ross | 0 |
on NUMBER aug NUMBER daniel quinlan wrote dan kohn dan dankohn com writes daniel it s easy enough for you to change the habeas scores yourself on your installation if habeas fails to live up to its promise to only license the warrant mark to non spammers and to place all violators on the hil then i have no doubt that justin and craig will quickly remove us from the next release but you re trying to kill habeas before it has a chance to show any promise i think i ve worked on sa enough to understand that i can localize a score i m just not comfortable with using spamassassin as a vehicle for drumming up your business at the expense of our user base i have to agree here if habeas is going to die just because sa does not support it that s a serious problem with the business model but that is nobody s problem but habeas s a possible solution is for habeas s business model to include some kind of incentive for users of sa to give it the benefit of the doubt i have yet to think of an incentive that fits the bill on thu NUMBER aug NUMBER justin mason wrote i don t see a problem supporting it in spamassassin but i see dan s points high score as far as i can see that s because spamassassin is assigning such high scores to legit newsletters these days and the habeas mark has to bring it down below that imo we have to fix the high scorers anyway no spam ever needs to score over NUMBER in our scoring system NUMBER tagged anyway this is off the topic of the rest of this discussion but amavisd in all its incarnations and mimedefang and several other mta plugins all reject at smtp time messages that scores higher than some threshold often NUMBER if some new release were to start scoring all spam no higher than NUMBER NUMBER there d better be _zero_ fps because all those filters would drop their thresholds to NUMBER on thu NUMBER aug NUMBER michael moncur wrote but i agree that there needs to be more focus on eliminating rules that frequently hit on newsletters if any newsletters actually use the habeas mark that will be one way to help newsletters won t use the mark habeas is priced way too high a factor of at least NUMBER over what the market will bear imo on a per message basis for most typical mailing lists lockergnome say to afford it on thu NUMBER aug NUMBER harold hallikainen wrote habeus has come up with a very clever way to use existing law to battle spam it seems that at some point they could drop the licensing fee to NUMBER or less and make all their income off suing the spammers for copyright infringement sorry that just can t work if the habeas mark actually becomes both widespread enough in non spam and effectively enforced enough to be absent from spam such that e g sa could assign a positive score to messages that do not have it then spammers are out of business and habeas has no one to sue there s nobody left to charge except the people who want or are forced against their will because their mail won t get through otherwise to use the mark conversely if there are enough spammers forging the mark for habeas to make all its income suing them then the mark is useless for the purpose for which it was designed either way it seems to me that after maybe a couple of lawsuits against real spammers and a lot of cease and desist letters to clueless mom pops then either a they re out of business b they have to sell the rights to use the mark to increasingly questionable senders or c they ve both created and monopolized a market for internet postage stamps that everybody has to pay them for the latter would be quite a coup if they could pull it off they do absolutely nothing useful unless you consider threatening people with lawsuits useful yet still collect a fee either directly or indirectly from everyone on the internet effectively we ll be paying them for the privilege of policing their trademark for them i don t believe they ll ever get that far but i don t particularly want to help them make it and i use the term they loosely because the whole company could consist of one lawyer if it really got to that point this URL email is sponsored by thinkgeek welcome to geek heaven URL _______________________________________________ spamassassin talk mailing list spamassassin talk URL URL | 0 |
is there a way to look for a particular file or directory in NUMBER s of zip files something like zgrep but for the filename instead of a word thanks justin irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
begin pgp signed message justin maccarthy wrote is there a way to look for a particular file or directory in NUMBER s of zip files something like zgrep but for the filename instead of a word thanks justin probably there are more elegant solutions but if your zips are in one directory you can do something like for i in zip do if unzip v i grep q fileyouwant then echo i fi done cheers waider waider URL yes it is very personal of me begin pgp signature version gnupg vNUMBER NUMBER NUMBER gnu linux comment using gnupg with mozilla URL iqevawubpwNUMBERamahbxyzzsabNUMBERaqh qqgaNUMBERvnujjuwgdaNUMBERycrqdNUMBERvzanhkcfNUMBERkdbba oNUMBERmyqNUMBERcugNUMBERcezkalktyzuNUMBEReoprhlNUMBERreaicuglmmecNUMBERhtuNUMBERzoveNUMBERf csuvbakkhl nxNUMBERxaNUMBERkkNUMBERv lfnwsNUMBERhwpdqolcat NUMBERigzzbdfwmynawb ireybNUMBERrNUMBERgpNUMBERsitdolNUMBERu rrlzysmNUMBERiuydrypduuxNUMBERtaNUMBERblvsdcNUMBERppwsqy wxphnihNUMBERbsNUMBER ebNUMBEReraujuqiNUMBERvjo mbichybNUMBERfNUMBERtevcqubxtcamowjpmv xmNUMBERgdulgrufbpcNUMBERoNUMBERxiNUMBERudfrexzzdojt hlfsNUMBERooNUMBERzqzcmrtuyegsfyqpafNUMBERwudNUMBERjofpaNUMBERtmsyxNUMBERbbhxsNUMBERecw kycm end pgp signature irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
john p looney stated the following on thu aug NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERpm NUMBER i m not sure what exactly is wrong with this but i can t get a redhat NUMBER NUMBER box to use ttysNUMBER as a console the relevant bits of boot grub grub conf are serial unit NUMBER speed NUMBER terminal timeout NUMBER console serial title linux root hdNUMBER NUMBER kernel boot bzimage ro root dev mdNUMBER console ttysNUMBER NUMBERnNUMBER that NUMBER is unneeded and is probably whats upsetting your kernel we use console ttysNUMBER NUMBERnNUMBER but the NUMBER is mainly cos we are a cisco shop and its to keepo everyhting the same colin design is like a religion too much of it makes you inflexibly and unpopular linus torvalds irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
not true on the choice part after three weeks of me telling eircom that i did not in fact need nor want their NUMBER worth of router and firewall nor their onsite survey for the uncapped service i actually managed to get a NUMBER port modem after asking for a NUMBER port modem instead of ye olde hardware router firewall and eircom onsite i would have argued for the NUMBER port modem which i had asked for but a director wanted the dsl up and fast still it only took me three weeks to get almost what i wanted irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
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all is it just me or has there been a massive increase in the amount of email being falsely bounced around the place i ve already received email from a number of people i don t know asking why i am sending them email these can be explained by servers from russia and elsewhere coupled with the false emails i received myself it s really starting to annoy me am i the only one seeing an increase in recent weeks martin martin whelan déise design URL tel NUMBER NUMBER our core product déiseditor allows organisations to publish information to their web site in a fast and cost effective manner there is no need for a full time web developer as the site can be easily updated by the organisations own staff instant updates to keep site information fresh sites which are updated regularly bring users back visit URL for a demonstration déiseditor managing your information _______________________________________________ iiu mailing list iiu URL URL | 0 |
i am wondering whether there s a way that i can use sitescooper and or plucker or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit more palmos friendly i don t have a windows machine so it becomes problematic to convert them i know that if this were not the case in word i could save them as some other more friendly format tcl NUMBER sept NUMBER NUMBER vancouver bc URL larry w virden mailto lvirden cas org url URL even if explicitly stated to the contrary nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer s opinions this URL email is sponsored by thinkgeek welcome to geek heaven URL _______________________________________________ sitescooper talk mailing list sitescooper talk URL URL | 0 |
good day on thu aug NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERpm NUMBER larry w virden wrote i am wondering whether there s a way that i can use sitescooper and or plucker or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit more palmos friendly you could try antiword URL it s consoled based and converts word NUMBER docs to text and some images to postscript and png you could also try openoffice and or abiword if you have x installed i don t have a windows machine so it becomes problematic to convert them i know that if this were not the case in word i could save them as some other more friendly format great mabuhay barryg barry dexter a gonzaga bofh barryg URL this URL email is sponsored by thinkgeek welcome to geek heaven URL _______________________________________________ sitescooper talk mailing list sitescooper talk URL URL | 0 |
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on thu NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER barry dexter a gonzaga wrote on thu aug NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERpm NUMBER larry w virden wrote i am wondering whether there s a way that i can use sitescooper and or plucker or some other free utility to convert word documents into something a bit more palmos friendly you could try antiword URL it s consoled based and converts word NUMBER docs to text and some images to postscript and png also there s catdoc and wv for word text conversions actually wv consists of wvware which as the manpage says converts word documents into other formats such as ps pdf html latex dvi abw html would probably be the best format for use with plucker sitescooper depending on how good the doc html conversion is i haven t used either in over a year as abiword or openoffice work well enough prefer abiword for it s light weight size but openoffice has the better doc importer don t know which of these are better or worse than the other but i figure the more the merrier you could also try openoffice and or abiword if you have x installed abiword supports exporting to palmdoc pdb which is about as palmos friendly as you can get never tried needed it but it s listed there in the save as dialog box wine or crossover office if you already have it may support word viewer free download from microsoft but didn t a year or so ago when i last tried word viewer is what i used back in the day to convert word NUMBER docs to word NUMBER as you could display the word NUMBER doc and copy paste the text with formatting into word NUMBER which was the only version of word that i had anyways a little nostalgia i don t have a windows machine so it becomes problematic to convert them i know that if this were not the case in word i could save them as some other more friendly format i have a windows dual boot machine but it only get used by my significant other and for burning multi session cd r rw is there any linux gui app that supports cdrecord s multi session feature since openoffice i ve been able to edit word docs flawlessly or at least the simple word documents i receive from others anyways please request permission to redistribute author s comments or email address this URL email is sponsored by osdn tired of that same old cell phone get a new here for free URL _______________________________________________ sitescooper talk mailing list sitescooper talk URL URL | 0 |
i m using simple dns from jhsoft we support only a few web sites and i d like to swap secondary services with someone in a similar position we have a static ip dsl line and a NUMBER NUMBER set of web sql mail and now a dns server as i said we are hosting about NUMBER web sites web and dns traffic is almost nothing everything is on lightly loaded apc battery backups so we are very seldom down i d like to swap with someone also using simple dns to take advantage of the trusted zone file transfer option bob musser database services inc makers of process server s toolbox courier service toolbox bobm URL URL NUMBER longhorn road winter park fl NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER | 0 |
bob we are a commercial company who host around NUMBER web sites on each of it servers we can t swap with you because we need someone in a similar position thank you javier el viernes NUMBER agosto NUMBER a las NUMBER NUMBER am bob musser escribió i m using simple dns from jhsoft we support only a few web sites and i d like to swap secondary services with someone in a similar position we have a static ip dsl line and a NUMBER NUMBER set of web sql mail and now a dns server as i said we are hosting about NUMBER web sites web and dns traffic is almost nothing everything is on lightly loaded apc battery backups so we are very seldom down i d like to swap with someone also using simple dns to take advantage of the trusted zone file transfer option bob musser database services inc makers of process server s toolbox courier service toolbox bobm URL URL NUMBER longhorn road winter park fl NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER atentamente javier cota integración tecnológica NUMBER javier URL | 0 |
_ _ _____ _ __ the weekly high tech sarcastic update for the uk _ _ _ __ __NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER_ o join mail an empty message to _ _ o ntknow subscribe URL _ v v o website archive lives at _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ o URL a case in point is web designer matt jones the man responsible for how bbc news online looked when it launched since then he has invented warchalking which he recently described as a curse URL but you cannot turn against me i created you hard news stiffening sinews more hot summer days in the mailinglist alleyways dangerously empty of sane postings strewn with the rotting carcasses of broiling vacation messages hacktress and silicon valley s chief rat keeper lile elam excitedly posts about a new open NUMBER NUMBER network she s found i am here at the police station waiting to see a judge and i thought i would check to see if there is connectivity she writes somewhat recklessly to the bay area wireless list exit the rest of the wifi community through the nearest window and out into the streets where cooling tempers the microsoft palladium boys are on an endless summer tour reassuring the experts that while hmm they suppose pd could theoretically be used as a hollywood drm system they truly have no plans to do any such thing cypherpunk and friend of freedom lucky green hears this thinks up four or five of the obvious palladium drm implementations sends them off to be patented in his name licensing funds we imagine will go on cracking his own drms and so the mail loops on URL administrivia hi mom i m in jail URL green palladium like green kryptonite could lucky get himself arrested under the dmca for distributing a circumvention device worse now we have the eucd incoming could he here in the uk will alan cox go to jail for posting detailed changelogs will even the nicest uk cryptographer or curious garage tinkerer find themselves hauled up under our new and scarily dmcaish copyright regime find out the facts at the free fair deal for copyright conference 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severity security product gaim keywords gaim hyperlink manual references can NUMBER NUMBER URL gaim changelog URL gaim is an instant messaging client based on the published toc protocol from aol the developers of gaim an instant messenger client that combines several different networks found a vulnerability in the hyperlink handling code the manual browser command passes an untrusted string to the shell without escaping or reliable quoting permitting an attacker to execute arbitrary commands on the users machine unfortunately gaim doesn t display the hyperlink before the user clicks on it users who use other inbuilt browser commands aren t vulnerable the fixed version of gaim no longer passes the user s manual browser command to the shell commands which contain the s in quotes will need to be amended so they don t contain any quotes the manual browser command can be edited in the general pane of the preferences dialog which can be accessed by clicking options from the login window or tools and then preferences from the menu bar in the buddy list window please download gaim NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER or later using red carpet you may also obtain this update from the ximian ftp site debian potato URL URL URL mandrake NUMBER NUMBER URL mandrake NUMBER NUMBER URL mandrake NUMBER NUMBER URL redhat NUMBER NUMBER URL URL redhat NUMBER NUMBER URL URL redhat NUMBER NUMBER URL URL redhat NUMBER NUMBER URL URL redhat NUMBER NUMBER URL URL solaris NUMBER NUMBER URL suse NUMBER NUMBER URL URL suse NUMBER NUMBER URL URL suse NUMBER NUMBER URL URL suse NUMBER NUMBER URL URL yellowdog NUMBER NUMBER URL URL yellowdog NUMBER NUMBER URL URL yellowdog NUMBER NUMBER URL URL _______________________________________________ updates maillist updates URL to unsubscribe from this list or to change your subscription options follow the link below URL | 0 |
i am trying to rebuild the recently posted alsa driver package for my kernel although i run red hat NUMBER NUMBER i am not using a red hat kernel package my kernel is lovingly downloaded configured and built by hand call me old fashioned sadly the rpm rebuild fails part way through rpm rebuild alsa driver NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERrcNUMBER frNUMBER src rpm gcc dalsa_build d__kernel__ dmodule NUMBER i usr src redhat build alsa driver NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERrcNUMBER include i lib modules NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER build include oNUMBER mpreferred stack boundary NUMBER march iNUMBER dlinux wall wstrict prototypes fomit frame pointer pipe dexport_symtab c sound c sound c NUMBER snd_hack_usb_set_interface undeclared here not in a function sound c NUMBER initializer element is not constant sound c NUMBER near initialization for __ksymtab_snd_hack_usb_set_interface value make NUMBER sound o error NUMBER the line in question looks like this usb workaround if linux_version_code kernel_version NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER if defined config_snd_usb_audio defined config_snd_usb_audio_module defined config_snd_usb_midi defined config_snd_usb_midi_module NUMBER export_symbol snd_hack_usb_set_interface endif endif any suggestions _______________________________________________ rpm list mailing list rpm list freshrpms net URL | 0 |
bill stoddard wrote no one likes commercial spam and no one like unsolicited political spam end of story bill URL except perhaps for the people in charge owen URL political spam on your cell phone by lisa m bowman mailto lisa bowman cnet com special to zdnet news august NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER pm pt url URL URL in a decision that treats text messaging on mobile phones essentially the same as bumper stickers the federal election commission has declared that senders of text based political ads don t have to disclose who funded them in an advisory opinion issued thursday the fec also suggested such messages include either a phone number or web site link so people could easily learn who paid for the message however the additional information won t be required the opinion could encourage the adoption of text based political ads as campaign experts look for new technological ways to sway voters at the same time opponents of the plan fear it could lead to anonymous political spam target wireless a small new jersey based wireless media company had asked the fec for an opinion on the matter saying that requiring financial disclosures on short messaging service sms mailings would use up too much of the NUMBER character maximum political messages on bumper stickers and buttons are also exempt from the financial disclosure requirement target wireless petition was supported by the national republican senatorial committee the cellular telecommunications and internet association and some advertising trade groups fec spokesman bob biersack said the opinion was in keeping with the commission s policy not to meddle with new technology that has the potential to reach more voters we have tried very hard not to get in the way particularly before everyone understands how the technology is going to work he said opponents of the plan have worried the exemption might encourage spam or allow senders to blast people with mass amounts of negative political messages while remaining anonymous biersack said the fec can revisit the issue if those problems surface target wireless president craig krueger characterized the opinion as good for america it will allow people to receive more communication from those running for office he said we have free speech on our side | 0 |
on fri NUMBER aug NUMBER robert harley wrote next time i hear a joke i promise not to laugh until i have checked out primary sources for confirmation in triplicate ok oh please walking sideways like that is bad for your shoes though it is kinda cute when you get all reasonomatic bang bang have a nice day URL | 0 |
dan brickley wrote except that thanks to the magic of spam it s usually some else s locale yeah physical mail makes more sense for physical locales there are better technical solutions to privacy protection than sending a copy of the same message to everyone on the internet so the recipients can t be blamed for reading it such as anything equivalent will be spam just not email spam dump entry ips for an anonymizing network onto a public bulletin board that s used for other purposes still spam etc etc i m not arguing against other solutions i m arguing that spam is speech if you let governments ban it you re giving them the power to choose who gets to speak lucas URL | 0 |
me spam is the tool for dissident news since the fact that it s unsolicited means that recipients can t be blamed for being on a mailing list russell turpin that depends on how the list is collected or even on what the senders say about how the list is collected better to just put it on a website and that way it can be surfed anonymously and it doesn t clutter my inbox it doesn t work that way a website is opt in spam is no opt if you visit a samizdat site you can get in trouble if you get samizdat spam the worst that can be said is that you might have read it and as long as the mailers send to individuals who clearly didn t opt in like party officials then other recipients can t get in trouble for requesting the mail plus it s much harder to block spam than web sites but this shouldn t come as a surprize spam is speech it may be sleazy but so what lucas URL | 0 |
xvid NUMBER is a project to make gpl divx codecs sigma designs NUMBER is a company looking to put out hardware to playback amongst other things divx files problem is sigma is using xvids gpled code in ways not very gpl the results xvid stops work on thier code and ask the users to put preasure on sigma to honor the gpl some notes from other places from doomNUMBER NUMBER xvid development has been stopped the sigma designs realmagic mpeg NUMBER video codec contains wide portions of code taken from the xvid project soon after the initial release of the realmagic codec the xvid developers have contacted sigma and informed them about the gpl violation for those who don t know xvid is distributed under the gnu public license gpl which demands that if you modify a gpl program you have to release it under the gpl which in this case means that the source code of the sigma codec must be freely available sigma promised to replace the stolen code but the new version of the codec which was released this month only disguises the stolen code it was not actually removed sigma was once again contacted and asked to remove the offending code but until today nothing has happened therefore the xvid team is now turning to the public in the hope to receive wide public support in their efforts to convince sigma designs to respect the terms of the gpl and until the matter has been resolved xvid development will not continue that being said i hope all the forum members who saw their threads about the sigma codecs being closed will understand our motivation now internally we already knew what was going on but since the xvid authors first wanted to try and resolve this internally we respected their wishes and kept quiet about the matter at hand update sigma has issued a press release announcing the availability of the source code of their mpeg NUMBER codec and it s already up for download however not a word was lost about the xvid issue and the press release makes one think that the sigma codec was entirely developed by sigma so we might be hearing more about this update i found a gpl notice in some of the source code files but it also looks like sigma placed their own copyright lines there and xvid doesn t get any credit in the source either the gpl notice also collides with sigma s software licensing agreement that you have to sign before downloading codec or source on on the same issue divxnetworks said they d fully support xvid in this issue and apparently dxn s relationship with sigma didn t really work out either as sigma s xcard is not as divx compatible as it was advertised update first an update on the xvid situation the release of the sigma source code does not mean it s all over it s far from being over the license agreement which you have to agree to before you can download and install the codec is not compatible with the gpl furthermore it can now clearly be seen download the source code and have a look for yourself that the sigma codec is pretty much a copy of the xvid codec but all the copyright notices of the original developers have been removed and replaced this does not only violate the gpl but copyright laws you can t just take a program change a few lines and change the copyright statements you only have copyright protection for the parts you wrote on your own and related to this the sigma codec also contains code taken from the opendivx project the files were outfitted with NUMBER different copyright notices which is quite funny NUMBER URL NUMBER URL NUMBER URL URL | 0 |
russell turpin that depends on how the list is collected or even on what the senders say about how the list is collected senders should vary the recipient list to include non targets like party officials and to exclude targets enough to give them plausible deniability lucas URL | 0 |
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from URL there has mostly been talk thus far and little action but the department of justice says it may be ready to file criminal lawsuits against individuals NUMBER who distribute or receive unauthorized copyrighted material over the internet deputy assistant attorney general john malcolm believes that criminal prosecutions of copyright offenders are now necessary to preserve the viability of america s content industries malcolm also believes that people who trade copyrighted material think they are participating in a legal activity i certainly think people who download copyrighted works understand that such distribution barring provisions such as fair use is not authorized and it is not surprising to see businesses continue to look for means to discourage distribution of copyrighted works some prosecutions that make that clear could be very helpful i think they would think twice if they thought there was a risk of criminal prosecution said riaa president cary sherman who was on the same conference panel i m not too confident that lawsuits would have the effect sherman is hoping for although infrequent there have already been civil suits or warnings issued to private individuals and they have served as minor deterrents to the file sharing community at large criminal lawsuits carrying with them the possibility of prison sentences may generate further animosity against groups such as the riaa and may be difficult to initiate because of the schooling effect of millions of systems participating in file sharing only servers would seem to stand out from the crowd the article cites the no electronic theft net act NUMBER which defines illegal activity and maximum penalties for copyright infringement criminal infringement any person who infringes a copyright willfully for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain or by the reproduction or distribution including by electronic means during any NUMBER day period of NUMBER or more copies or phonorecords of NUMBER or more copyrighted works which have a total retail value of more than NUMBER NUMBER for purposes of this subsection evidence of reproduction or distribution of a copyrighted work by itself shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement the term financial gain includes receipt or expectation of receipt of anything of value including the receipt of other copyrighted works therefore receipt of a work of value would be defined as financial gain even if no money is involved the net act excerpt does not clarify how the value of a work is determined an album or movie could be worth only NUMBER to millions of dollars depending on whether the value is assessed from the perspective of the consumer or copyright holder the statute of limitations NUMBER limitations on actions a criminal proceedings no criminal proceeding shall be maintained under the provisions of this title unless it is commenced within five years after the cause of action arose b civil actions no civil action shall be maintained under the provisions of this title unless it is commenced within three years after the claim accrued the penalties are too extensive to list here but they can be found in section NUMBER criminal infringement of a copyright in general first time criminal offenses will carry a maximum prison sentence of NUMBER year i m still not sure where the doj would start in choosing people to prosecute because of the aforementioned schooling effect but my guess would be that just like speeding primarily the most prominent individuals who operate large servers or transfer the most data will be targeted in order to discourage more recreational file sharers thanks to monalisaoverdrive for pointing out this story NUMBER URL NUMBER URL URL | 0 |
on fri NUMBER aug NUMBER tom wrote from URL there has mostly been talk thus far and little action but the department of justice says it may be ready to file criminal lawsuits against individuals NUMBER who distribute or receive unauthorized copyrighted material over the internet and yet still noone is out there creating _public domain_ content is there even one person out there can can even begin to talk without being a complete hypocrite and no the open source people cant talk either the gpl aint even close i know i cant talk if the creator didnt say you could have it without paying it s theft so simple hell that s even in all the major holy books fair use needs to be clarified a bit and then i hope they start locking people up how else do i ever have hope of finding a job working for someone that makes things people are supposed to drumroll pay for adam l duncan beberg URL beberg URL URL | 0 |
reza b far ebuilt wrote problems why do most computer scientists insist on solving the same problems over and over again when there are some many more important and interesting problems high level to be solved amen doing it in an unecessarily harder way does not make you more of a man or less of a kiddie joe | 0 |
if i have any rpms in URL that could be useful to some one with a real apt repository or someone who wants to maintain a package be it known i am not selfish i found stuff i thought would later get popular so i would not have to maintain the rpms for them after they hit the big time gnumpNUMBERd is an exapmple of this so if anyone is psyched go for it if so let me know so i can get the rpms from you in the future that s angle as in geometry _______________________________________________ rpm list mailing list rpm list freshrpms net URL | 0 |
on sun NUMBER sep NUMBER reza b far ebuilt wrote NUMBER c and c forces the developer to solve problems such as memory management over and over again imho java is superior because the problem of programming in the future is not about NUMBER s and NUMBER s making the compiler NUMBER faster or making your code take NUMBER less memory it s about design patterns architecture high level stuff considering NUMBER of the fake job posting i see are for embedded systems or device drivers c still rules the world NUMBER java is not just a programming language it s also a platform there is nothing like the standard api s in java in c and c everyone defines their own api s people end up solving the same problems ten different ways the problem is the problem you re trying to solve is never the same java will soon suffer api rot alot of poeple are already complaining about it it s just new c was clean in the beginning too api rot is purely a function of age NUMBER if you have a program of any type of high complexity written in c you can t possibly think that you could port it to different platforms within the same magnitude of cost as java i do this all the time it s alot easier then you think if the original programmer had a clue at all java does remove the clue requirement tho just adds a huge testing requirement qa guys aren t as cheap NUMBER makes no sense for a scientific or a business project to depend on a person java imho reduces the dependence of these entities on the individual developer as it is much easier to reverse engineer java as it is to reverse engineer c large applications no it s not but you can hire teams of javites for cheap at your local high school java is about cutting costs and commoditizing programming and it s working adam l duncan beberg URL beberg URL | 0 |
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adam beberg considering NUMBER of the fake job posting i see are for embedded systems or device drivers c still rules the world there is a lot of c in the embedded world with static object allocation and a few other programming techniques performance differences disappear but c gives a boost in development and maintainability the real issue is compiler availability almost every embedded platform has c cross compilers many have c compilers but there is still a range of platforms that have the first but not the second or at least that was the story a few years ago _________________________________________________________________ send and receive hotmail on your mobile device URL | 0 |
on sun sep NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERpm NUMBER paul jakma mentioned on sun NUMBER sep NUMBER kevin lyda wrote gnu date is limited by time_t but i thought time_t expired in NUMBER this seems to show it expiring in NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER course on ultrasparc xNUMBER NUMBER iaNUMBER alpha etc NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER so we should be safe enough may i assume that xNUMBER NUMBER will be able to use a NUMBERbit time_t too kate irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
on mon NUMBER sep NUMBER russell turpin wrote adam beberg considering NUMBER of the fake job posting i see are for embedded systems or device drivers c still rules the world there is a lot of c in the embedded world with static object allocation and a few other programming techniques performance differences disappear but c gives a boost in development and maintainability agreed not much difference there with c it just doesnt seem as wrong to be crawling around in registers and things quite frankly you cant fit _that_ big of a project into a NUMBERk rom so large project issues dont matter as much in the embedded world and in the realtime space or when you have data coming in at NUMBERgbit sec fibrechannel every cycle does count the real issue is compiler availability almost every embedded platform has c cross compilers many have c compilers but there is still a range of platforms that have the first but not the second or at least that was the story a few years ago definately still very very true c compilers are still a rarity adam l duncan beberg URL beberg URL | 0 |
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reza b far wrote this thread kind of surprises me i started coding with c then c and moved on to java and i think that looks like a case of my experience is comprehensive your s is anecdotal they don t know what they re talking about NUMBER the people who pay the wages don t give a flyin heck what programming language you write things in they just want it to work in my experience they do care it has to work certainly and in particular it has to work with what they ve already got and it has to work on client s systems my limited experience of java started a few years ago when support on linux was so terrible that i ran away screaming and haven t come back yet microsoft has announced that they plan to remove java from windows they took it out of xp already and it has to be installed with a service pack somehow i can t imagine them removing the ability to run c programs NUMBER c and c forces the developer to solve problems such as memory management over and over again can t say i spend any noticeable amount of time on memory management issues apart from the fact that i frequently need NUMBER gb it s about design patterns architecture high level stuff if your problem just requires application of a design pattern to solve then it s trivial anyway irrespective of language i am amazed by the amount of time wasted by people talking about low level problems that have been solved NUMBER million times over and over and over again you appear to be gratuitously asserting that c programmers waste time on irrelevant low level problems and java programmers don t depends entirely on the programmer not the language NUMBER java is not just a programming language it s also a platform buzzword a monolithic set of api s or a crap load of different api s slicing and dicing the same problems NUMBER different ways unsupported assertion NUMBER if you have a program of any type of high complexity written in c you can t possibly think that you could port it to different platforms within the same magnitude of cost as java dunno e g i ported a wee NUMBER line c program to darwin on powerpc in a few minutes yesterday sure if it was badly designed it would be NUMBER times the size and harder to port if it depended on unavailable libraries it would be much harder portable code is easy to port at least that is the case when then language you used is available on the target platform i also run on arm systems with no proper java NUMBER makes no sense for a scientific or a business project to depend on a person java imho reduces the dependence of these entities on the individual developer as it is much easier to reverse engineer java as it is to reverse engineer c large applications you can pay a good programmer to solve your problem now or else get some kids to hack spaghetti fortran in any language and then pay for maintenance headaches ad infinitum NUMBER hardware is getting so fast that i m not sure if the performance difference between java and c c are relevant any more whoah performance matters to me every day right now i m taking time out to write email while waiting for a job to run sure i could wait NUMBER years until everyone s pc is fast enough to generate random ec s in no time when any twit will be able to program inefficient code that is fast enough and the market will be overrun by competitors or i can do it now when very few people can the end goal is the scientific or business problem to be solved yes and for those problems languages such as java smalltalk and others allow you to think more high level than low level thinking of bits and bytes takes too much gray matter away from the real important problems it s true i admit everything mea maxima culpa working in c makes me spend all day thinking base rank thoughts about hard core bitography not actually i spend most of my time thinking in high level mathematics why do most computer scientists insist on solving the same problems over and over again dunno and frankly i don t see the relevance to the issue at hand i m sure java is fine for some stuff as is c or whatever horses for courses bye rob _ | 0 |
i need to setup a vpn between a few sites from what i ve read the the choices come down on the linux side to ipsec using freeswan or cipe it seems that freeswan is better being an implementation of ipsec which is a standard however cipe does the job as well for linux clients and is somewhat simpler to setup the problem is that it s not a pure linux situation a couple of the sites run os x i m pretty sure that i ll be able to find an implementation of ipsec for os x but i think cipe is linux only so the question is for those of you have have implemented both is there a significant difference in setup time and hassle between cipe and freeswan if cipe is going to be much easier than dealing with freeswan and whatever on the os x sites then i ll simply get a linux box for each of the remote sites with the low price of hardware it doesn t take much more complexity in software to make buying hardware to use simpler software economic niall irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
i am trying to manage the email for a domain which i have hosted with hostingNUMBER and am trying to get the whole email send and receive thing working nice and easily at the moment i have configured fetchmail to poll the different popNUMBER mailboxes and deliver the mail accordingly although it appears that i have to have only one unix user being able to receive from each popNUMBER mailbox this could be a limitation of the fetchmailconf programme i m not sure but it would be much handier if i could just tell it to collect all of the mail from the different mailboxes and then deliver it locally according to the to header instead of the popNUMBER mailbox it came from the other issue i am having is sending outgoing mail i have been trying to use sendmail but am finding it to be an absolute pain in the posterior and when the relay server will only accept outgoing connections if i have checked for incoming mail in the last twenty minutes and i don t know how to set sendmail to run a command before it sends out the mail do any of the outgoing mailer programs exim or postfix or whatever have a nice configuration interface or do they all have nice friendly configuration files like sendmail any suggestions of alternative solutions would be much appreciated there are only three or four email addresses in my domain and setting it up for scheduled collection and either scheduled or immediate delivery would do me fine thanks david david hamilton senior technical consultant hp ireland irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
hi all i m trying to set up the following NUMBER a linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an ethernet card for lan connectivity NUMBER other lan pcs with ethernet cards using the linux server for dns dhcp etc basically i want to route any non lan traffic through the pppNUMBER i ve got some of the way but like a similar post earlier about modem problems when i am connected to the internet with ehtNUMBER up the routing is all incorrect and noting goes out through pppNUMBER ehNUMBER must be the default route or something is there standard out of the box linux tools that will carry out portmapping on behalf of the lan pcs i m planning on non routable addresses NUMBER NUMBER x x for the lan routed outwards via the pppNUMBER interface can someone point me at the right howtos or routing documentation i need to follow thanks dermot irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
hi dermot if have a look at one of the dists like URL it will save you lots of time and effort and should do eveything you want justin original message from ilug admin URL mailto ilug admin URL on behalf of dermot daly sent monday september NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER am to ilug URL subject ilug what howtos for soho system hi all i m trying to set up the following NUMBER a linux server running with a modem for internet connectivity and an ethernet card for lan connectivity NUMBER other lan pcs with ethernet cards using the linux server for dns dhcp etc basically i want to route any non lan traffic through the pppNUMBER i ve got some of the way but like a similar post earlier about modem problems when i am connected to the internet with ehtNUMBER up the routing is all incorrect and noting goes out through pppNUMBER ehNUMBER must be the default route or something is there standard out of the box linux tools that will carry out portmapping on behalf of the lan pcs i m planning on non routable addresses NUMBER NUMBER x x for the lan routed outwards via the pppNUMBER interface can someone point me at the right howtos or routing documentation i need to follow thanks dermot irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
i think i ll ask this question again as i sent on friday afternoon justin hi can anyone point me to a howto on running mailing lists not looking for anything that is package specific but rather something that gives general info on the various email headers and dealing with returned mails errors in transport etc thanks justin irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
ray dermody s dermodyr itcarlow ie NUMBER lines of wisdom included hi all the serial number in our hosts files on our dns server has gone corrupt e g NUMBER should be NUMBER its okay to set this back to todays date but i understand that our secondary and terninary dns servers will only update from the master hosts file if the master host serial number is greater than the current serial number in the hosts file is there any way i can reset this on the secondary and terninary dns servers once you have the serial changed on the master dns server remove the appropiate zone s on your slaves and refresh your dns servers bind has a special case if you set the serial to NUMBER i think dns bind should have something on that philip reynolds rfc networks tel NUMBER NUMBER URL fax NUMBER NUMBER irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
begin pgp signed message vincent cunniffe wrote justin maccarthy wrote i think i ll ask this question again as i sent on friday afternoon mailman trust me you do not want to running your own mailing lists on your own software you ll wind up crying in a dark room looking for something high voltage to stick your fingers into all things considered i get that effect with mailman but the viable alternatives are ezmlm which is loonware and i m avoiding on principle and majordomo which seems to have stagnated oh and there s apparently something called smartlist which is a bitch to set up waider waider URL yes it is very personal of me begin pgp signature version gnupg vNUMBER NUMBER NUMBER gnu linux comment using gnupg with mozilla URL iqevawubpxneNUMBERhbxyzzsabNUMBERaqhNUMBERkqf xqeomahnxalzbmgdNUMBERiydNUMBERvqaagwarNUMBERdq kdpzNUMBERnbecrNUMBERosNUMBERpjolyNUMBERlspkgnshpjcdzirsxjvxmfpNUMBERyrnqNUMBERaypNUMBERhggwrvwgjgb NUMBERnNUMBERhg rgezNUMBERsNUMBERrhuNUMBERrauhpfbNUMBERxoNUMBERxzmiNUMBERgskdhsgefqsuoazNUMBERvzvllsiriyhfy NUMBERu vrpvtpNUMBERryrNUMBERhaxNUMBERjxuNUMBERgvwftNUMBERkNUMBERddfftaimqgcsjnuNUMBERmxcmi ptqNUMBERrtxhxd wzhxcr fawirekNUMBERyzNUMBERdrlNUMBER gjlNUMBERyjqfsowumqzqlkkutxNUMBERljvvNUMBERosNUMBERydjgraqpxm jmqNUMBERlifudzayccbixxNUMBERzcxmslppNUMBERcNUMBERwjNUMBERxjsywNUMBERrcjuNUMBERbgxtqhmbq egNUMBERx end pgp signature irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
justin maccarthy wrote i think i ll ask this question again as i sent on friday afternoon mailman trust me you do not want to running your own mailing lists on your own software you ll wind up crying in a dark room looking for something high voltage to stick your fingers into regards vin irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
begin pgp signed message hash shaNUMBER your actual serial number is NUMBER from a dig i ve just done try resetting the zone number to NUMBER some of your secondaries seem to have a serial number below that so they clearly regard NUMBER as being less than NUMBER that should enable them to pick up the new zonefile t at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER ray dermody wrote hi all the serial number in our hosts files on our dns server has gone corrupt e g NUMBER should be NUMBER its okay to set this back to todays date but i understand that our secondary and terninary dns servers will only update from the master hosts file if the master host serial number is greater than the current serial number in the hosts file is there any way i can reset this on the secondary and terninary dns servers ray dermody computing services technician i t carlow NUMBER NUMBER irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL via URL ireland is a wholly owned limited irish company although connected to the via global network via URL ireland is separate from and is not owned by via URL inc or any member of the via URL inc group begin pgp signature version pgpfreeware NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER for non commercial use http www pgp com iqa awubpxnfoNUMBERwyzbxNUMBERegNUMBEReqlfnwcfaknapokbgNUMBERjNUMBERjqqqehgiwfdNUMBERsNUMBERaopNUMBERj glbtgrNUMBERkNUMBERfzylnnrncftNUMBERfst rurr end pgp signature irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
hi all damian conway is in belfast this week he will be giving two talks o perl NUMBER tuesday NUMBERrd september NUMBERpm jury s belfast o quantum superpositions thursday NUMBERth september NUMBERpm jury s belfast he is also doing training courses URL wesley irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
it s monday NUMBER NUMBER september NUMBER student life begins with linux by john sterne the launch last month of a marketing special interest group by the irish linux users group ilug open source and marketing it seems might not be mutually exclusive concepts has already sparked an interesting initiative at university college cork when the new academic year begins at ucc every incoming student will be offered a copy of red hat linux NUMBER NUMBER ilug member braun brelin proposed this promotion when he ran a training class for staff at the ucc computer science department brelin who is the director of technology at openapp says that the linux offer could be extended to any or all of the other irish universities the user group is tapping into an international red hat programme that aims to introduce students at all levels to the open source style of computing the linux distributor runs an educational channel to reach this audience bundling educational software with its operating environment and offering networked support services to eligible applicants this scheme was originally designed to suit the educational structures in the us but is now available to schools and universities throughout the world red hat linux NUMBER NUMBER incorporates ease of use and maintenance features and is intended to counter objections that linux is hard to master on personal systems the linux for all project at ucc could also raise the profile of red hat ireland based in cork this operation has run shared financial services for other red hat offices in europe since NUMBER until now its involvement with users in ireland has been fairly limited although it does sometimes refer them to other red hat offices in europe that offer consulting or technical support services david owens red hat s director of global logistics and production sees the formation of the ilug marketing group as a reason to take a more proactive approach in the last three months he notes his office in cork has received more and more calls from irish companies that are interested in adopting linux and has introduced some to red hat pre sales consultants many thanks are due to braun and david for working together on this one regards l irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
i just saw the isos on an internal server here and was tempted d original message from john p looney mailto valen tuatha org sent monday september NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER NUMBER pm to hamilton david hp ireland exNUMBER cc ilug URL subject re ilug redhat NUMBER NUMBER on mon sep NUMBER NUMBER at NUMBER NUMBER NUMBERpm NUMBER hamilton david hp ireland exNUMBER mentioned does anyone know when redhat NUMBER NUMBER is going to be released i have seen some iso images of it around and i am trying to work out if it s near release null the third beta was out last week it ll be an interesting release gnome NUMBER NUMBER and gcc NUMBER NUMBER both very new large projects i d not be putting it on any production machines for a while though many say redhat x NUMBER releases are rubbish it s worth baring in mind that they jump a release when the underlying archtechture changes not just the installer so they are NUMBER for a reason kate irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
ok so if i was in the uk for a wekk how might i configure my laptop to dial in to a freebie isp redhat s internet connection wizard actually has settings for uk isp s but freeserve is the only one i recognize and it doen t seem to work has anyone here done this kevin kevin URL that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to fork ed on NUMBER the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier meatspace place home than a sober one the happiness of credulity is a URL cheap dangerous quality g b shaw irish linux users group ilug URL URL for un subscription information list maintainer listmaster URL | 0 |
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