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--- 2540957
Do you guys hunt with PCP airguns or take them with you when you go outside?
What airgun do you have or what it's your favorite?
I'm planning on buying one to hunt rabbits and some birds.
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got me a co2 going to upgrade it with a 20" barrel and a stock to make it a little rifle with a scope.
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>>2540957 (OP)
Airgun hunting is max comfy. I hunt rabbits with a .177 FX Cyclone and JSB Monster 13.4gr.
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Why air guns ?
As a cucked European i have no idea.
Are there advantages to regular guns or is it about laws ?
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>>2541282
Air guns are not firearms in law, so you can get away with a lot more.
My air rifle has a suppression system built into it, it sounds like a cough when I fire it.
I use it to kill rabbits mostly.
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>>2541282
There is no advantage a PCP has over 22lr that isn't based on the fact that they are not legally firearms. The guns are more expensive and the cost of filling tanks or buying special compressor far outweigh the cost of a 22lr. You're looking at like $6-8 hundred initial investment plus running cost for entry level PCP. I'd love one but the cost just doesn't work out unless you live in some overly restrictive shithole. They do look very fun tho. I have a springer and a piston and that will likely be it for my air gunning unless the price comes down significantly and given the economies of scale I don't see that happening.
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>>2541310
>Special compressor
Imagine being such a beta cuck that you don't own an air-compressor or pneumatic tools. 
>>2541284
This. You can buy an Airforce Texan that is basically a sniper rifle with zero firearm restrictions and you can even get fully auto PcP. It's a massive loophole in the liberal retardation referred to as "gun control"
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>>2541282
Air guns are much cheaper per-round and if you live within the city limits there are less legal penalties for firing them at things like Starlings, crows and rats. The PCP rifles can be suppressed so they're usually quieter and PcPs have are cheaper if you already have a compressor (like every real man should).
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>>2541475
>>2541471
You can't pump these PCP guns with a normal air tool compressor dumbass. That's why ppl need to take it to a dive shop or have one of those high pressure expensive compressors that are like 500 bucks to fill. If they did work off your little craftsman compressor then of course they'd be more popular than they are.
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>>2541483
>or have one of those high pressure expensive compressors that are like 500 bucks to fill
>calls someone else a dumbass
A vertical compressor with good pressure is exactly what he's referring to, moron. Guys who are handy and who don't live in tiny efficiency pods in the middle of a concrete wasteland will nearly always have a vertical, high-pressure compressor. Your reference to a dive shop alone (an auto garage would do) is a dead giveaway of a west coast urbanoid with no life or practical skills.

- t. working engineer/fabricator
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>>2541310
>or buying special compressor
LMAO
thee things are like 40 dollars in aliexpress, are very easy to use and have good quality
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>>2541483
>You can't pump these PCP guns with a normal air tool compressor dumbass
Retard, I've been using these things for like 7 years and use these >>2541502
Now I have a venturi avenger and works fine
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>>2541503
>>2541502
How much time does it take you to pump up to usable pressure? How many shots do you get per charge?
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>>2541483
>I am poor, don't know anything about tools and am a beta-cuck
>>2541495
Based compressor chad.
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>>2541520
It varies by rifle/caliber. 
It will tell you in the rifle specs.
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>>2541495
Those standard shop compressors are like a couple hundred psi at best. Not suitable for PCP filling. Now go look at the price of a compressor that meets the pressure requirement for PCP. Regardless you retards are proving my point in that even if the common shop compressor was usable how many fucking ppl have access to one such that it makes owning a PCP cheaper than a 22lr? Even if you buy entry level everything you could get a very nice rimfire for the price.
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>>2541532
>I'm poor
You can get a high pressure air compressor for like 300 USD. The hand pump is like 40 bucks. 
10,000 rounds of .22LR averages $700 USD
10,000 rounds of .177 pellets averages $150 USD

Basically I can buy a PcP and a high pressure air compressor for less than you'll pay in ammo and then I can charge Scuba and Paintball fags to fill up their shit and eventually the compressor will pay for itself.
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>>2541520
20 minutes of pumping for 20 shots. After that pellet have less power and are not really flying where you want them.

Btw. you should not pump it fast because pump can overheat and wont last long. 

Good PCP airgun costs like 800€. Then you can either buy pump for another 150-200€ or air bottle for 300-400€. Then you need to find someone who will fill it obviously.

So yeah, PCP will solve the recoil and noise of 400€ springer but replace it with other obligations.

https://youtu.be/7qcdDazxxXY?t=306 [Embed]
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>>2541577
Also, good luck shooting something after going through gym
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>>2541577
>>2541579
>€
Europoor confirmed
The irony here is you can't even own a .22 in Europe without a costly loicens.
Your post makes obvious you don't know shit about guns at all.
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>>2541594
Gun license cost 500€ + lets say 1000€ for proper gun that shoots real ammo, its still better deal than buying PCP airgun.

Did you enjoyed your pumping today?
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pic related, multipump, it's fun, it's cheap, ammo is cheap, load single hunting pellets if needed
this won't get outlawed with new laws (in USA)
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>>2541612
cute
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>>2541549
Lol, lmao even. Your best defense is to call me poor while not being able to provide a single evidence that pcp has anything over 22lr, whether that be cost or performance. The only thing PCP has going for it is to be able to say legally it isn't a firearm, which I conceed is a valid concern for some people. But for anyone besides ppl from nations with cucked gun laws it's not worth it and represents paying drastically more for worse in every regard.
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>>2541612
I would prefer a spring/piston over pump. Only place pump makes sense is basement range with bullet trap for indoor fun.
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>>2541594
What counter do you have to his argument besides calling him poor? He has laid out the ridiculous relative cost of getting into even entry level (but still good) PCP. There is literally no benefit other than to avoid legality of dealing with actual firearms.
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>>2541653
multi pump is nice because you can pump once or many times, it's adjustable which I think it's better than spring
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>>2540957 (OP)
I don't know what pcp is, but I used to like the idea of getting these pump-action compressed air rifles. They're cheaper than guns, and don't require any legal shenanigans. I've shot a few and they're strong enough to hunt birds
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>>2541671
Dam I forgot the image
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>>2541671
It stands for pre charged pneumatic it's basically got an air tank just like a paint ball gun.
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There are 3 types
>1) simple like this >>2541673
you "break" the rifle and only have one shot, you break and reload, very quick and easy
>2) the one OP posted
that is charged with these >>2541502 , you can shot an average of 25-30 shots per rifle depending on the pellet and rifle, sometimes those fuckers aren't so easy to charge if you are a sissy
>3) rifles that use scuba
pic related, multishots, haven't used those 


The calibers are .177 .22 .25 and .30 and 9mm
In my experience, I have used these 

>.177 you can kill birds and some rabbits if you hit them in the right place but also your rifle needs good fps
>.22
perfect for any bird and you can also kill rabbits, foxes, dogs, etc. I've know people that have killed boars and pigs but shooting under the ribs or with a headshot with a powerful rifle
>.25
birds are a mess after a shot them if you don't aim for the head. You kill rabits and other small animals no matter where you shoot. Perfect to hunt the same things that using .22 but have much more power and I personally like to use them when it rains or there are too much wind so the traectory isn't affected
>.30
massacre birds, to the rest of animals only aim for the head, a boar is no problem for this rifle 

never tried 9mm
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>>2541695
Oh the gamo air rifles that break like that are no longer 1 shot.
They have a 10 round mag now, standard.
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>>2541656
newfag
>>2541549<--pcp is cheaper
>>2541652
Why are you insist on lying?
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>>2541668
The only thing the pump guns are good for is when you want to piss off your friend or scare the neighbor’s cat. Single pump is much better that 20 pumps.

I like that co2 Crosman 1077 though. Don’t know if they still make them. Not as powerful as the spring piston ones, but it feels like plinking with a cheap .22 short rifle and I took out a opossum with it once.
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>>2541495
>working engineer
>thinks 150psi vertical compressor is higher pressure than a 150psi pancake compressor
Weak.

Also it’s kind of gay listening to you guys arguing about this. Air rifles are fun because you can plink a squirrel in a suburban area without getting arrested, also you can convince your mom to get you a 1000fps gun when you’re 14 and tell her it’s just like a Red Ryder.
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>>2541790
Of course air rifles are hella fun. But once you get into PCP it just gets obscene level expensive, where as you can buy a Savage MK II for 300 bucks on a bad day at terrible price. I guess like that one faggot says the price to get into it initially is higher but at some point the pellet gun would end up being cheaper than a 22lr but it would take years to even reach the break even point.
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>>2541549
Shut the fuck up you are not going to start a side business pumping scuba and paintball you utter faggot. Just admit you would pay $500 for the gun and another $300 for the pump at the end of which you will not even come close to holding up to a $800 22lr. Not even a $400 one shooting good ammo. It'd take you years, likely decades to reach the break even point and have the PCP begin to be cheaper.
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Ok back on topic what's everybody hunting with? Anybody got experience with the Diana Storm models for shit like squirrel and rabbit?
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Also how are you faggots noticing your impact due to low temps or just general temp swings throughout the day?
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I've been shooting PCPs for about a year, bought my first PCP last march, since then I haven't stopped, I've gone shooting nearly every odd weekend since then. In the left it's my .22 cal Artemis Pr900 and in the right my .25 cal Effecto PX-5.

>>2541310
They DO have an advantage though, most PCP air rifles are dead nuts accurate, even the cheapest ones. There's a steep initial investment but after that you can shot for very cheap. 

>>2541502
Yeah but you get a hell of a workout with anything but the smallest reservoirs. My gun had a 275cc cylinder, and after trying to pump it twice and nearly popping a vein I resigned and bought a tank.

>>2541809
I have an Artemis PR900 (the same thing really), regulated model, shoots around 22-24 ft/lbs. Mine has been wonderful, very accurate (single ragged hole at 35m), shots decently whatever you put it thru, mine likes JSB 18gr the best, but shoots 15gr JSB and crossman domed decently too.
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>>2541804
I’m with you 50%. Depends on your locale. In Illinois, any air rifle >700fps velocity and >.177cal requires a FOID card, so you’re going through the exact same bullshit as buying a real .22 rifle.
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>>2541906
What advantage does the regulated version give you? How had does the velocity and accuracy drop off between the first and last shot before your air runs out. I saw some posts online that shows the muzzle velocity dropping like several hundred FPS between the earlier and final shots.
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>>2541284
>Air guns are not firearms in law,
Some one needs to tell the Australian's this.
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>>2542007
Also Canada for anything over 500 fps.
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>>2541804
>PCP is more expensive
I literally isn't you brain dead retard
The math is in this thread and you're just straight up stupid.
You keep repeating the same lie as if it hasn't been debunked.
>>2541549
>>2541807
Just admit you suck at basic math hand haven't even come close to refuting the math that debunks your retarded assertion that PcP is more expensive. It isn't--you're just retarded.

You also keep lying about the prices. so we've established you're a liar and retarded.
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>>2540957 (OP)
Had an FAC one of these in the UK. It's good as it comes apart and fits in my bag, took down some small game but wouldn't use it over an actual rifle
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>>2542154
>UK
>aktual rifle
I use the pellet rifle more than anything else because it's cheaper by far and I hunt a lot of invasive species like starlings, crows and rabbits. I also have something most Europeans don't: land and hunting access.
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>>2541988
Flatter shooting curve, which translates into better 'vertical' accuracy. As the pressure drops the velocity of the pellet decreases, giving you a lower POI. Some guns actually shoot faster with a lower pressure than max fill pressure (say, max fill pressure is 250 BAR, but the gun shoots the fastest at 200) because of less resistance of the hammer hitting the valve. 

A regulator "regulates" the air pressure into a lower level (usually 100-130 bar) so more, lower pressure air can be used for shooting. They maintain a more or less equal pressure along the shot string until the tank pressure reaches the regulator pressure.

Nowadays most newer airguns are regulated, it has become standard in the market. One of the few $500+ airguns that are still unregulated is the Benjamin Cayden, but it still achieves a somewhat consistent velocity thanks to other tricks.
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>>2542148
I'm trying to do the math here.

Using American prices and shops:

- FX Dreamline .25 with Walnut stock: $1280
- 78cu CF Tank: $390
- 1000 rounds of FX Hybrid Slugs: $128 ($16 each with 2 free from Pyramid Air) $0.128 per round.
Total: $1798

- CZ 427 Varmint: $650
- Silencerco Sparrow 22: $299
- 1000 rounds of Eley Subsonic HP: $199
Total: $1240

Fixed cost delta is $558
Recurring cost delta is $7.2 per 100 rounds.

If you shoot 200 rounds every weekend, you'd save in ammo with an air rifle $748,8 a year ($14.4 * 52), meaning in 10 months the air rifle would have been cheaper.

Sure, you can not buy a supressor for the rimfire, but the FX Dreamline comes with a supressor, which does have its advantages. You could shoot cheaper ammo with the 22lr, but so could you with the FX Dreamline, shooting pellets.
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>>2542248
In bong land it absolutely makes sense to get a PCP.
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>>2542281
In burgerand there is also multi month wait times to get a suppressor plus a $200 tax in addition to the cost of the supp. Also fun fact although air guns are not legally firearms on a federal level, in many cities and towns they are considered so and it is technically illegal to discharge them in town, though enforcement probably varies and that depends on who hears or notices in the first place.
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>>2542248
>>2542285
I was assuming OP was in the US.
FAC air rifle is the best way to go in the UK, if you get one that can come apart easily then you just throw it in your bag then you can get most game here easy
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How does temps affect these guns? Where I am it's not unheard of for like 20 degrees or more of temp swings between early morning and afternoon
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>>2542315
With CO2 there's temperature issues, but I have never noticed any issue in my PCP air rifles.
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>>2541906
PR900 regulated is beautiful, I used it for several years before selling it, I almost bought it again to hunt this season (starts in april) but I think I'm going to buy the M16 5.5 instead.
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>>2542381
Where are you from?
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>>2542292
>he pays the cuck stamp and waits the time
Lol
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>>2541282
OP can't legally obtain a firearm is the only reason.
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>>2542423
He can buy black powder firearms, if feeling spicy he can get conversion kits to hold modern cartridges.
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>>2542426
Most places you can't just buy black powder though.
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>>2542427
You can have it shipped directly to your door, but you need to use either FedEx or UPS, Fedex IMO, fuck UPS.
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>>2542281
The PcP savings will eclipse the .22lr in two to three years depending on how much you shoot. 200 rounds a weekend is 10,400 rounds a year. I've had my 22 for over 20 years and no contest the PcP cost in that time is exponentially less.
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>>2542292
Most cities have ordinances against hunting or discharging projectiles in the city limits. 
>>2542416
>Fedposting
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>>2542402
South america
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>>2542903
I'm from South America as well. Chile?
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>>2542914
Yes 
are you spying me?
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>>2542917
No. I know our hunting season starts in April, that's all. 

Wanna go hunting? What do you hunt?
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>>2542919
Liebres, caiquenes, pato jergon (they aren't so common in my zone) and some other birds. I know that people in my region has hunted boars and deers but never tried it because I only go for small animals and don't have dogs. I have a rifle 6.35 too and wold like to try but seems like a dumb idea since I need a plan and time to explore new zones.
I'm from the XI region btw.
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>>2542945
Damn cool, I'm from Santiago so mostly hunt rabbits, tortolas and codornices, around here or a bit further south near Talca. 

I wanna hunt deer sometime, and maybe go to Tierra del Fuego and hunt beavers, that's kinda my dream. I have two air rifles and also I'm buying a u/o shotgun shortly.
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>>2542700
How has your find held up in that time. Do you get caught lacking against the new developments or is it pretty much like rimfire where it's the same shit basically.
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>>2542700
Yeah I'm sure after a few years it's worth it. How often do you have to replace fill tanks and shit I see ppl posting on air gun forums about that shit going bad and compressors being rebuild after a few years too. Honestly the PCP thing seems really cool but it also seems like a lot of additional investment and upkeep
--- 2542967
For mostly hunting would something like Diana Storm Rider or Beeman Chief 2 suffice? Or should I pony up some cash for a venturi avenger? I don't care about rate of fire our squirrel limit is only 6 a day so I would be down with whatever is super accurate and light. The flimsy looking barrels on the chief and rider has me worried.
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>>2542955
Very nice. Just noticed the can of cerveza cristal in the pic >>2541906 lmao. I don't know how did I miss that. 
also, my favorite poston to use with the PR was the JSB of 15gr, best by far in my experience
You should definitely come to these zones some day, the XI or the XII region, they are beautiful.
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So does anyone in this thread actually own and shoot PCP? If you do post em so we can oogle
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>>2542971
yes, the one on the left is one of the most economic and effective >>2541906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FClBXyXm8s&ab_channel=TyroneMclaren [Embed]
excellent to small game hunting
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>>2541471
>You can buy an Airforce Texan that is basically a sniper rifle with zero firearm restrictions
>dude it's so cool it looks like a sniper rifle
The .50 caliber version can reach 800 ft-lbs, which you can reasonably achieve with .357 magnum from a 6" revolver, and the later will have a flatter trajectory and may hold more rounds in the cylinder than you'd get consistent shots on a single fill with the Airforce Texan. Small bore airguns are cool for cheap shooting, but big bore airguns are absolutely a fucking meme and well beyond the point of diminishing returns.
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>>2543463
>would use the 50 cal
no, already you have lost all credibility
The only good 50cal is an M2, the rest are total shit especially the "sniper" rifles in 50 cal. The only people that hunt 50 cal are black powder larpers.
Please stop talking about guns--you don't know shit about shit.
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>>2543538
You misread the post esl retard. He is saying a 6in 357 mag revolver will btfo any 50 cal air rifle.
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>>2543655
The irony is palpable.
The post you replied to states that 50cal is a shit caliber to use as a benchmark for anything. The comparison isn't just invalid it outs whoever is even talking about 50 cal as obviously not knowing anything about rifles.
Feel bad about having a worse reading comprehension than an ESL and feel even worse for talking out your ass about something you clearly know nothing about.
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>>2541063
great, I love these types of guns
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bump
--- 2546980
what should I buy if I have a budget of 3.000 USD
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>>2541790
Might be off topic from the thread but I'm a carpenter and never understood why they make so many types of air compressor? Used to use a pancake compressor but now I have a little one gallon quiet hot dog for trim jobs and a double cylinder 4 gallon for framing. Why not just make one cylinder? But there's also vertical compressor. I'm more curious than anything
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>>2546980
a rifle
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>>2546980
A nice 22lr and a very nice scope with a shit ton of ammo to go with it.
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>>2541671
>they're strong enough to hunt birds
I've hunt rabbits with mine as well.
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>>2547540
stop posting 
your embarrassingly stupid
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>>2547489
The tool companies got together with the compressor companies and decided modular wasn't profitable. The scuba and paintballers use the high pressure and the three levels of the lower pressure are industrial, auto, home and maritime*
scuba and maritime aren't the same.
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>>2546980
I went over a bit but it's fine
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>>2540957 (OP)
Never owned an airgun before, looking to buy a handgun airgun for casual target practice, my priority is accuracy up to maybe around 80 yards (73 meters), I'd prefer to have one that requires pumping as lugging around and buying CO2 cartridges or another propellant system sounds like a pain and another thing to worry about. Are there any decent options that can be bought brand new for under $120 USD or so? I don't care about the calibre, not going to be hunting.
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>>2548674
(I didn't mean to type 'pumping', in particular. I just meant that I didn't want one that had to be propelled with something that had to be bought and/or carried separately)
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>>2540957 (OP)
Owned many different airguns, PCP, spring and gas-ram. Hunted with them extensively. Picrel (Weihrauch HW95K) is still my favourite for hunting.
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>>2548988
is that... is that a suppressor? 
on an air gun...?
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>>2549000
Yeah, airguns can be loud as hell. They are not a firearm either, so you can just slap on one if you are in the usa.
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>>2549000
all of them use supressors, pic related for example has it hidden in the barrel
If I don't use the supressor when I'm hunting my rifle is very loud and the animals can notice me from around 60mts when I shoot
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>>2548674
diana stormrider gen 2 would be the perfect rifle for you because is the best for starters and also cheap
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>>2549044
*the best for starters because
>simple design
>the weight its around 4.5 pounds 
>great accuracy 
>multishots
>easy to fill with a pump like >>2541502
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>>2541475
What the fuck are you shooting at random crows for you fucking imbecile?
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Fun fact
Lewis and Clark took an airgun on their famous expedition
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>muh suppressors on spring rifles are pointless because when I fire my spring rifle, which has a suppressor fitted, I hear the rifle's internal mechanisms quite loudly.


Suppressors don't suppress a rifle's internal mechanisms. They suppress the muzzle report so that you can fire at multiple targets without scaring them away immediately with your first shot.
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>>2540957 (OP)
I sometimes sit in my backyard with an air rifle and shoot at Myna birds pretending I'm a Russian sniper in Bakhmut. I shoot a bird and watch it fall then I say something like "he was denazified" or "myna bird was liquidated in the backyard direction"
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>>2549395
...holy shit.. 
it's.. 
...real

http://westernexplorers.us/Lewis-and-Clark-Expedition-firearms-summary.html#:~:text=Lewis%20brought%20an%20%E2%80%9Cair%20gun,also%20mounted%20on%20a%20swivel.
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>>2549871
Girardoni air rifle, yeah. Designed in 1779 by Bartolomeo Girardoni in the Holy Roman Empire. 19+1 capacity.
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Co2 Is good
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>>2551620
Oh.. fail...
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>>2541310
>ou're looking at like $6-8 hundred initial investment
fuck no, you can buy an used PCP for like 200$, if you catually inspect it you can get one that wasn't used at all for that money. And you can get a pump in aliexpress for 50$ that will be enough to fill any pcp up to 230 bar.
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am I supposed to use the rifle just on the green zone? I understand that I won't have to fill it until the red zone, but what happens if I shoot when the rifle is in the yellow zone?
can someone has a video on this or something I could read?
--- 2553063
Kral Big Horn .30 cal, yay or nay?

>>2553032
Yellow zone usually means it has fallen out of the regulator pressure and will shoot with less power... up to the point the pressure isn't enough to overcome barrel friction and you get a squib, but you'd have to shoot until the pellets are literally plopping out of the barrel to have that happen.
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>>2553063
beautiful, one day Im going to buy one of these
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>>2549395
Airguns were around for over 200 plus years before Lewis and Clark..
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>>2553063
I shot something similar at a gun show.
Asked the guy how much it cost. He told me four and a half grand.
So I went and bought a gamo for 150 dollars. I only wanted it for rabbits in my yard anyway.
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>>2554516
Might be some Daystate or something, that rifle in particular is like $700-800
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>>2554517
It was a custom job. The scope on it was a grand and a half by itself.
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>>2554519
If you go custom shit can get stupid expensive. Specially for benchrest or field-target. You see guys running top of the line Nightforce scopes on those competitions, and the scope is only a quarter of the price of the whole rig.
--- 2554554
Any recommended break action pellet guns for rabbits and squirrels? Preferably in .22
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>>2554554
I like my gamo swarm.
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>>2554554
What's your budget? Rifle and scope?
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>>2554573
he said break barrel.. scope is a no-go. holy shit wish people would stop putting scopes on those things... and put the rear irons/forward irons on the barrel only.. its a weird sight picture but at least you can fucking hit shit....
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>>2554594
There are many "springer rated" scopes. If you put a random cheapo scope it's going to crap out, but if you put a Hawke or a UTG Bugbuster, they are specifically made for spring action air rifles. You need good mounts too, something like a 1-piece one
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>>2541063
I have one of these with a match barrel. It's really accurate, easy to use. But underpowered for anything besides close-ish range. So much drop on the pellet in .22
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>>2541673
>>2541671
In bigger calibers and heavy-weight pellets these can be strong enough to hunt men, anon.
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>>2554601
In some rifles those mounts don't let you put the magazine, only pellet by pellet
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>>2555288
PCPs have minimal recoil and can use whatever scope.
--- 2555377
Airgunner here.
Some airguns are as deadly as regular firearms.
Most are gay bullshit, if they cant tell you the calibre of pellet, fps and propulsion its probably shit.
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>>2555356
I didn't mean that. If you use a 1-piece mount in some rifles you can't put the magazine in it so you have to put a single pellet everytime you want to shoot
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>>2553032
Look up regulated vs unregulated
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>>2556294
If your rifle doesn't have a suppressor you only need one shot. Everything scatters after the first round. My pops bought a breach loader (because he's a retarded boomer and totally ignored me) to kill starlings and the thing is loud as fuck.
--- 2558568
I've considered getting a suppressed air rifle for plinking cause i don't feel like doing the tax stamp bullshit for suppressors for my .22
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Getting this scope tomorrow for my Kral Puncher, good or not?
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Imagine buying airgun for the price of .22
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>>2559101
Imagine saying something this retarded in a thread you obviously didn't read.
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>>2553063
Avoid Turkish airguns.
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I bought this and I'm nervous
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003374697568.html
this is the first time I buy an accesory like this in the chinese market, I didn't want to buy one in my country because the quality were very similar to chinese scopes but they were too expensive, almost the double even when most of them are from the same brands and hae the same specs
>>2558844
That scope looks great, what is the weight of your rifle? and what is the weight of that scope?
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>>2560040
Why? I get the thing about cheap Turkish shotguns from no-name manufacturers, but air rifles are fine. Specially if you buy from well known companies like Kral or Huglu.
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>>2560171
Diana and Airforce are known for quality products and have been in the business for awhile.
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>>2560171
Because you can get Air Arms for the same price.
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>>2548988
what scope
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>>2540957 (OP)

I find it's most helpful in colder climates. Puts a little pep in your step
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>>2541310
Personally I prefer my .22 pcp over .22lr, I do a lot of squirrel hunting and .22lr does too much damage to the carcass to do anything with. Plus the added range you get from .22lr isn't gonna matter at the distances you'll be hunting squirrels at.
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>>2561975
Nikon Prostaff EFR 3-9x40. I think their discontinued now. Great scope if you can find one though.
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>>2562350
I'm getting a CZ 457 22lr/17hmr combo rifle after getting ridiculed with the PCP rifle in my latest hunt. We hunt in a vineyard and sometimes rabbits are rally far away, like 200m, I could never close in enough to get a shoot with my .25 cal air rifle. Since it's flat and featureless it's really hard to estimate range, I shoot at like 20 rabbits and got none. Also my rifle is heavy as fuck. 17hmr ought to do the trick.
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>>2562410
That's a valid reason to go with a conventional firearm over a pcp, you have to get equipment that meets your needs. I'm just sick of all the sperging about how PCPs are pointless because 22lr exists
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>>2560231
>Diana
love diana outlaw
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Bump. Buying this rifle this week.
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>>2541603
esl europoo detected
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>>2566962
Pumpfag detected

>>2565485
Turkish airgun for the price of Weihrauch or Air Arms. Enjoy.
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>>2562445
It's pretty common for shit marksman to blame the rifle. Read between the lines: he was mocked for being a shitty shot not because of his PcP. 
>>2562410
Why are you buying a $500 gun to hunt rabbits when you can't even shoot straight. Get a Marlin for 1/4 the price and learn to shoot straight before you embarrass yourself any more.
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wena nido