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>>2559226 (OP)

>picrel
based and comfy as fuck
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>>2559231
I heard that Columbia's shoes are comfy but aren't durable.
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>>2559233
I've had them for maybe a month, so I couldn't say long term. But they seem pretty hardy to me, no problems thus far.
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>>2559226 (OP)
depends on what I am doing.
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>>2559226 (OP)
These for everyday stuff, can recommend. Not the best when carrying a lot.
--- 2559263
alot of things. do you need a bootguide or what?
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>>2559263
Reccomend a hiking boot for NW Montana summers with moderate autism styling.
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Mah timbs

Hunting, hiking, larping, going to work, this guy does it all
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Hanwag

10 years, resoled once
Icelandic winters, Swedish summers... Love this boot.
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I want to get minimal/barefoot shoes. Any opinions about vivobarefoot brand?
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>>2559287
By summer I assume you mean hiking season from April to October and Mountains from June to September.
Most high quality boots sold in the US have goretex inside. That's not something you want for summer hiking, not even in Montana.
Try to find one with full leather inside and out for the summer. Your feet will be drier and won't stink. With goretex inside you have to change socks 3 times a day in summer, and you'll have fungal infections within a few weeks of hiking. I wouldn't recommend a mix of fabric/leather on the outside of the boot for Montana weather either because it'll just wet through much quicker than full leather.

This is actually a nice boot for summer >>2559295
https://www.hanwag.com/us/en-us/men/trekking/tatra-ii
if you get the leather version.
A (girl)friend of mine wore this boot for more than an entire year straight backpacking the world. Unfortunately it doesn't fit me otherwise I would have loved it too. The stiffness of this boot is at the upper end of normal (mountain) hiking boots but not too stiff or not as stiff as hunting/autumn boots. It also breaks in nicely and gets more flexible.

If you like more stiffness and a more solid feel this is a boot you can also use in autumn in the mountains when there's already snow and in the field when its very wet, and during mild winters:
https://www.hanwag.com/us/en-us/men/trekking/yukon-wide
as well as in the summer because it doesn't have goretex. Its just a little overkill maybe on regular touristy hiking trails. I had the Hanwag Alaska for a long time - great boot for cooler wet weather - which is basically the same just with goretex.
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>>2559310
Thank (you) anon.
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>>2559298
Not very durable. Do you want to get a fancy shoe for river crossings?
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Army boots
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>>2559226 (OP)
Mid-height sprayway boots from Decathlon. It's not exactly rough terrain around here, and they work great for rain-slicked streets too.
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Barefoot when temperature is nice outiside. Takes about 2 weeks or so after winter to build up calluses agian and then you're good to go.
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>>2559346
Suomibro?
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>>2559226 (OP)
crocs. i stopped wearing anything else
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>>2559360
Based
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>>2559226 (OP)
My fucked up rat boots
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Not my collection but if you don't have a boot like this you're ngmi.
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>>2559357
veljeni
hyvät kengät on
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Merrill Moabs, usually the high top version.
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>>2559231
>>2559233
I have them for 2 years. I wear them everyday, and yes, they are comfy.
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>>2559298
I've ground the outsole on my geo racers completely flat and they are still going strong.
I think it's a quality shoe, through I've heard their customer service is a bit shit outside of europe.
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>>2559263
Ive seen this youtube video
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>>2559226 (OP)
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Terraventure 3's.
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>>2560449
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>>2559226 (OP)
Basic bitch army infantry boots. I wear them to work (construction) and wear them on the trail. They've got a lot of time on them and arent showing any signs of falling apart anytime soon.
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If I take out the rigid plastic """arch support""" insoles from pic related because they fuck up the tendons in the arches of my feet, and replace them with softer insoles from old New Balance 680s, is it going to have any consequences other than comfier feet and avoiding tendinopathy?
--- 2561429
Currently using the Altberg tabbing mk3's, had them for a week ish. Very big fan so far, the new sole/form is a bit to get used to, I find myself heel striking a lot more with these, but overall its everything I wanted:
>tall
>light
>leather
>brown
>complete connection with tongue
>non Gore-tex/membrane
>good fit/great sole.
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Merrell Moabs are my go-to. I sometimes wear Oboz, Nord Trail mids, and some old LL Bean elkskins for snow and mud. 

The Nord Trail Mt Washingtons are pretty damn nice for $50.
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I've been using a pair of Irish Setter 867 Trailblazers for the past decade. Was my first pair of good boots, really like them and they stood up to a lot. 

Been looking recently at getting a pair of Altberg Tethera boots, pic related. Anyone had any experience with them?
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Merrels but as soon as these give our im getting a nice pair of danners
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Is Timberland a decent brand?
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Youcan sometimes get them check from military surplus in Germany. Pretty stiff, able to take clip crampons
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>>2559258
>>2561862
Meindl are amazing. I wonder why they're not popular outside of Europe.
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Does anyone know what shoes are these?
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>>2559226 (OP)

Picrel is Mil-tec 5 inchers. Yeah, i know theyre made in china but they really last and are comfy as fuck. Just got my second pair in 3 years.
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>>2562608
>Mil-tec 5 inch
> they really last
How many miles do you have on them?
No membrane?
I'm looking for weekender summer boot like this.
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>>2559226 (OP)
La Sportiva Pyramid GTX
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>>2562486
Those look like Merrell moab 2 low to me.
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>>2562745
hahaha
what a faggot
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>>2562786
bot reply
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>>2559287
Like other anon said, you want your feet to breathe. I have lived and hiked in NW MT. Summers get VERY dry and can be quite hot even in Glacier National Park. There is not much humidity and rainfalls can be few and far between. Bring bear spray.
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>>2562645

Well i was wearing them on hikes(probably 50-70 hikes approx. 15-20km each), daily to work for 2 years and using them as work boots during tire flip seasons(for 2 seasons). They were pretty much all i wore because of how comfortable they were. In the end they got pretty scuffed and when i got them soaking wet the sides ripped open so i had to order new ones. I've tried the same type and twice as expensive from Icepeak, but they had issues after the second month already(seams tore, glued front opened from expansion in the snow etc.) so i went back to these.
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I just ordered some Keen Targhee 2 mids. I’m coming from a pair of BTFO Ozark Trails. Doesn’t seem like many /out/laws wear Keen. Did I screw up?
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Friendly reminder that if you're buying $$$ fabric boots for /out/ instead of full leather outer, you're getting scammed.
2-5 year durability cycles are NOT normal.
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>>2563079
its a non issue now that hiking boots use 500 mile lifespan eva midsoles and 1000-2000 mile lifespan pu midsoles. if you're fucking the uppers up on hiking boots before the midsole's shot you're fucking up. 
>2-5 year durability cycles are NOT normal.
yeah it is. old school leather midsoled hiking and logging boots last about the same amount of time before needing a resole as rubber/foam midsole boots last. the only difference is you re-used the upper a few times before also discarding it with old boots, while with modern boots the entire boot gets replaced. 
the idea boots are not consumable can only come from one of two places:
- rpg dungeons and diablos dice rolling fantasy elf games
- you fell for all that lumbersexual mens americana revival fashion marketing back in 2015 and still haven't realized it
footwear has always been a consumable especially to travelers of long distances. if you've ever felt like its not its because you don't walk enough.
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>>2562645
keen & merell sell boots similar to that if you want something to compare to
get a PU sole if you want lifespan, it comes at the cost of comfort
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>>2561577
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>>2559287
merell moab ventilators, deal with them being cheap and disposable they're the best hot weather boot.
really consider just getting a shoe or runner for summers. gaiters exist.
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>>2562883
I will try them on.

>>2563086
Keens all have waterproof membranes. What about Merrell's? Its say "waterproof" on all boots but few mention membranes ... What's the deal here?
I want to avoid boots with waterproof membranes.

Boot will be used largely in summer for casual hiking, section hiking long distance trails, forest, daily all-day wear in hot weather.
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>>2563089
>merell moab ventilators
boot? how on earth do you justify calling that a boot?
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>>2563128
the mid not the low there's two versions.
they're technically a mid but just about every modern hiking boot doesn't go up high enough to offer any more ankle support than it anyways.
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>>2563122
most boots have membranes because 99.95% of people wear runners, shoes, or moab ventilator mids at most when its hot out. boots and the kind of weather that's for are kind of counter intuitive with one another.
i'm not saying don't do it or anything, just explaining why most boots only come with a membrane.
are you trying to find a WATERPROOF boot with no membrane? that's a lot harder.
if not, just buy a non waterproof ventilated boot. salomon, merell etc. get a pair of goretex socks with them to extend their usage. done and done. 
>What about Merrell's? Its say "waterproof" on all boots but few mention membranes 
they sell all their boots with or without the membrane
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>>2561028
Based and Masochist-pilled. I have some of the old sand coloreds as bug-out storage. I made the mistake of using two pairs at work in a machine shop, they've lasted 3 years but the rubber soles are starting to give under all that chemical juicyness. And metal shavings galore. Not gonna feel too bad when they finally die, no more army crap for me. For hiking I have a nice pair of moabs but like this anon>>2563131 is saying it's only a mid.
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>>2563131
I see. Still I'd just use my trailrunners or regular cheap running shoes instead of something like this.

>Boot will be used largely in summer for casual hiking, section hiking long distance trails, forest, daily all-day wear in hot weather.
I want to replace my Quest 4Ds. I'm looking for something like the Salmon Quest 4D without the membrane and a healthier flatter (flatter feeling) insole/midsole. Quest 4D gave me issues with my upper tendons and the joints of my toes. It would also be great to have a non-slipping outsole.

Quest 4D Pros:
- Boot height is perfect (I don't need the ankle support, just the height)
- Runnable
- Weight is just right
- Keeps dirt, sticks, and water out to an acceptable degree for a 2-season boot.

Quest 4D Cons:
- Sweat and Stink. Becomes unusable after 5 days of hiking and bivouacing in summer. Feet constantly wet from sweat. Change socks 3 to 5 times a day. Fungal smell etc.
- Midsole isn't flat enough for a healthy fit. There are bumps on the midsole/insole you can feel inside the boot. If I ever want an orthopedic fit I'll do it myself with a custom insole.
- Issues with upper foot tendons and toe joints 
- Sole is slipping on wet ground
- Too expensive
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>>2563138
I think its just marketing, reddit philosophy, and fashion.

I only accept goretex boots in autumn/winter: November to March. 
From April-October I'm using full leather boots or cheap running shoes. I'm looking for something in-between without membrane.

>are you trying to find a WATERPROOF boot with no membrane? that's a lot harder.
No, I already have full leather boots. I just want something smaller looking, more casual for hiking in more civilized areas and trails. "waterproof" does not matter.
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>>2563159
really just sounds like you want something like moab vents thats pretty much what they are.
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>>2563301
They sound and look good, but they are not high enough. I need the height for protection against vegetation.
My extended weekend hikes switch from touristy hiking trails to off-trail woodlands with undergrowth alot. Up until now I've just been using my regular gtx mountain boots but its getting too hot and the tourists are coming. I don't want to look too out of place with the reddit people.
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>>2559226 (OP)
Decided to try pic related last year instead of my leather hiking boots. Never going back.
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>>2563301
>>2563325
Something like pic rel is better vs vegetation.
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Can I use cheap asics on multiday trails this summer? I carry about 30 pounds and its mostly forest trails, agriculture roads, some paved roads.
What would be the downsides?
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>>2563325
>I need the height for protection against vegetation.
you're creating a problem that doesn't exist again, that's why nobody makes a boot for you
google image search 'hiking gaiters'
as i said earlier there's no real functional difference between the mid height and the low cut of modern hiking boots like the example you posted. neither one supports or protects your ankle, both designs are too low cut to offer any profection. the mid cut is more gaiter compatible and my current hiking boots are the exact same shape as these >>2563373 and still require gaiters to keep vegitation out. the only tangible benefit from the inch of height is slightly better load bearing with heavy packs on hills. if you want an aesthetic or look that's fine but you're just going to make your life harder. 
but yeah if mid ventilators don't do it for you just look at salomon's non membrane boots. they have the cut you want.
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>>2563437
Its not about keeping vegetation out. I use my pants for that. Its about not scuffing my ankles on dead wood, logs, branches, brambles, maybe rocks sometimes.
I usually wear high leather boots for that but found the height of the salmon quest 4d is perfect to protect the ankle off trail.

Which Salmon boot are you talking about? They all have goretex afaik.
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>>2563083
You killed him Gilbert
--- 2563510
Thoughts? They're like halfway between a trail runner and a boot

Like £55, seems cheap.
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>>2563510
Does it fit?
And
Why this "boot"?
Also
Goretex
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>>2563357
>dyslexic Norteno creeps up on you in the woods
Aye holmes, your zapatos say u a scrapa, ese
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>>2559226 (OP)
This 

I don't believe in those boots desu, its a psyop for you to make sheckels for ""them"" 

I like to be in my confy shoes all the time no matter what and actualy feel where I am steping in 

in my experience those boots are awfull for balance and your ankles
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>>2563083
Replacing the sole is cheaper than replacing the whole boot
Fabric memetex boots are also more likely to fail on you early.
The whole scheme is a joke designed to sell you 300 dollar shoes like hotpockets
--- 2563604
I got these milsurp boots from my uncle when he left the national gaurd and I've been using them ever since. Pic was taken 3 years ago, the bottoms have barely started to rub off and they're still holding up
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>>2559226 (OP)
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WHITIN Minimalist Trail Runner; I can never return to normal shoes after using them for a while. Any other barefoot shoes I should invest in?
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>>2563765
Forgot to include a picture of the shoes.
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>>2563765

Belleville tactical research minimil.

They're so freaking good. I stiffened up and waterproofed the side walls with shoe goo and have replaced the shit insole with a decent hard foam orthotic. Have hammered mine on multiple week long hunting trips, awesome and feels safe in gnarly shit. I also carry 2x ankle braces for If I'm tired out or have to go into real bad terrain but I don't really have to use em.
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>>2563765
this shit sound waaaay better than those boots 

Idk why boots became so popular ngl, never liked them, they're cluncky af
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Belleville master race
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>>2563778
My nigger knows
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>>2559226 (OP)
I usually stick with water proof pilot boots from the US army they keep my ankles nice and tight. Only issue is they're a bit heavy but i like them easy to take care of and easy to move in even though they're a bit heavy.
--- 2564190
I got a pair of 6 in Red Wing King Toe boots, and they are simply the best modern boot. I got them with a soft toe, which I recommend getting, unless you really need the protection. I might get a pair of all leather boots in the future, but I'm completely satisfied with these. Red Wing also does free, lifetime (your lifetime) cleaning and conditioning and resoles. You can get them cleaned and conditioned as much as you want.
For those who have bought 100% leather boots, do you recommend Red Wings, or should I order online from some boutique manufacturer? I'm kind of hesitant because I just send them my size, and they send me the boots; I don't get to try them on.
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>>2564190
>boutique 
Um sweetie. They're called boot salesmen
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>>2564197
No. I am not talking about who you buy boots from. I'm talking about a particular segment of a market. Boutique is a term used to refer to businesses that deal with discerning customers who have a willingness to pay higher prices for a better quality product and often times a more personalized experience. In the world of finance, for instance, a boutique asset management firm will feature quality advisors, a separately managed account, the option to pick your investments (including ethical investing), and high levels of customer access. In boots, boutique means the option to choose chrome tanned vs. veg tanned leather, species, color, tread, speed hooks vs. eyelets, etc.
Now, do you get it, sweetie?
--- 2564266
Can someone explain to this retard why hiking boots have so much padding in them? They all look like skate shoes from the 2000s.
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>>2564266
To prevent your feet from hurting
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>>2564260
>autism completely misses the joke
Boutique sounds like boot. Try not to overthing it
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Those are for summer.
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Those are for autumn and winter.
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>>2564190
>Red Wing also does free, lifetime (your lifetime) cleaning and conditioning and resoles
No they don't. You pay for resoles.
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And I have a pair of those for easy summer hiking and mountain trails up to T4.
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How do you tell the right size for hiking shoes? How much space should there be at the front of the shoe?

It always says 1 finger width, but that's not easy to determine from outside the shoe.
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>>2564461
Experience is the only way you can tell. Ask someone to help you in person and hope for the best.
--- 2564514
I got a pair of heavy boots for bulldozing through the shit, now I need a pair of light/lighter shoes/boots for summer and easy trails. should I fuck with pic related or just get a trail runner?
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>>2564514
personal preference, but where you live and the climate affect the balance of that decision. namely runners would be favored if you live in a high rainfall area. 
i'm not a fan of minimalistic boots because they make a lot of them without a midsole and with zero drop (eww) but oboz are one of the good ones.
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>>2564523
it's usually droughty here so I was leaning towards runners for the lighter weight and breathability. think some light boots would be better?
--- 2565467
I'm looking for a pair of boots that is good for the pnw, I want something pretty durable and with good support for when I'm carrying a decent amount of gear. I had considered going with nicks or whites or one of the other pnw legacy brands but they seem to mostly have absurdly large heel drops. I'm not looking for much in the way of insulation, as in the colder months I plan to wear thicker/warmer socks, and I plan to get a separate pair of boots for the actual winter unless I find that I'm comfortable with the warmer socks in my main boot. 

The #1 feature I've grown to hate on boots is hooks for lacing. I would really appreciate finding a pair that doesn't have them, as I've had multiple times in various jobs and while out camping where they've gotten bent or fucked up in some sort of way and as you bend them back they just get shittier and weaker.
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>>2565467
What's wrong with normal hiking boots?
Hard to tell what you want. Just get a hunting boot from crispy, hanwag, lowa, etc. if you want an allrounder that can do pretty much anything.

Any cobbler can replace hooks for <$10.
--- 2565651
I've been wearing these 6" Kodiak McKinney for about 3 years, a lot of my activities involve mud so I opted for a waterproof option. The bottom is starting to wear though.
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>>2559226 (OP)
lowa. worked when i was in country. works on the trail in snow or rain. simple as.
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>>2559226 (OP)
the sarma alpina recon, they chew my feet up but im not done breaking them in
--- 2565794
When do shoes usually go on sale? 
need new shoes for both work and hike

My sketchers are stating to fall apart slowly
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>>2565619
I do like some of the lowa offerings, I just wish that gore tex wasn't such a huge part of the lineup. Hanwag only has hooks from what I see so they're out, same with crispi. 

Yeah a cobbler can replace hooks I suppose I could just bring them to a cobbler to have them replaced with loops before I use them, frankly just seems like a waste.

I don't love gore Tex because it never works as well as I'd hope and just holds moisture in my boot, but it kinda looks like I'll just have to accept that it's gonna be a feature that's on any boot I get.
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>>2559226 (OP)
I just wear whatever boot I've been wearing to work at that point. I figure its better to have a known comfortable broken in work boot that's a bit heavier, than save a few pounds and open up the possibility of hot spots or blisters and discomfort. Just ordered a new pair of work boots from a local boutique shop (JK Boots) so we'll see how those guys do hiking when they finish making them.
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>>2565797
Not sure what's available in the US but in Europe you can get leather-lined boots from all these companies.
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>>2559226 (OP)
those exact kathmandu boots, and they're great. only thing is the sole inserts it comes with are absolute dogshit. replaced them with some good work boot soles, and they're perfect.
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>>2565848
They mostly seem to all have leather and gore Tex. I will probably either settle or talk to a local/custom brand about what I want but I'm not much interested in ponying up like $600+ on a pair of boots.
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>>2559295
>10 years, resoled once
how do you resole something that isn't stitched
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>>2559226 (OP)
What pants are those? They look nice.
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>>2562899
keen is a fine brand
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>>2563122
>2563122
not sure about merrel or other brands but for columbia --> OUTDRY is the waterproof membrane
if it says waterproof without the OUTDRY it is just waterproof with no memrane
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>>2563419
if you're carrying a pack, aren't you afraid of rolling your ankle wearing lows like this?
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>>2566089
I'm not overweight.
I wear boots for their stiffness and ease of walking on terrain, not necessary on trails.
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>>2566093
don't need to be overweight to roll your ankle you dummy
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>>2563373
>>2564320
I bought lowa boots not long ago from a recommendation on here
First piece gear I've bought that wasn't the cheapest shit I could find, and god damn they have been so nice. 
I wear em daily now
Only thing I've ran into so far, is they aren't super insulating, but I assume a better boot would be suited for the cold
--- 2566483
Nicks Overlanders
best boot plastic lovers BTFO
--- 2566548
Lowa Renegade GTX mid, I don't know what the consensus is on those but they served me well enough so far. I'd take recommendations if anons have any to give, I mainly go /out/ on the mountain I live on, sometimes higher than 2000m so above the tree line
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>>2566483
Those are overpriced /fa/ instagram shoes, and not hiking boots you massive dolt.
--- 2566577
Hanwag Alaska GTX
I love those boots to death. To be honest, I wear them wherever I go, which is fucking stupid, but they´re just so fucking comfortable.

Anybody else wear their expensive hiking boots everywhere they go, instead of just /out/?
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light boot
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>>2566576
Loser can’t afford them we get it
--- 2566588
For daily and weekly hikes I use the most durable boots. Good for training your calfs and tibialis.
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>>2566588
Forgot to link boot porn moving pictures:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtpAA0N2VbE [Embed]
happy fapping
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>>2566587
Consoomer faggot
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>>2559291
Yah timbos are durable and longlasting generally
--- 2566665
I usually do Solomon trail runners. They’re so light and have done well across 4 summers of Rocky Mountain abuse. I’m trying some shit I found on clearance at REI this summer, $80 isn’t too bad if I can get a season or two hiking out of them.
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>>2566665
So close I am a faggot
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Summer foorwear
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>>2566604
You probably look like this, faggot.
--- 2567115
Anybody have any experience with the Jim Green African Rangers? Been hearing good things about them, and they seem like a good step up from the pair of Timberland hikers I got from Marshall’s a couple years ago.